And record, and start one.
What? Why? What are you going to do about it?
What do you mean? Why did you even do that?
To see what you do about it. Okay.
He did nothing. No!
No!
Oh, man.
What a professional... professional podcast.
No! Stop it, you two!
Stop it! No, that's mine.
That's yours!
My dad is not even gonna ask.
I don't even know if this is going to stand anymore.
There we go. I got it, I got it. Oh my goodness.
I fixed it.
Oh, my phone's already dead. That's very good.
Alright. Okay, well that's a live thing, not working.
Here we go. Okay.
Alright, cool. It's going to be a good show today.
Your headphones still work?
Nice. Yeah, they don't. Yeah, exactly.
As well as they ever did. Yeah. They technically play audio.
Alright. Linus is like me flirting in fifth grade.
Did you get the girl? Did she like it when you pulled on her pigtails?
Oh. Wow.
Not that... What are you... Oh my god.
It's not dirty. It's puppy love.
It's wholesome.
Still does. You haven't been on the internet enough, I think,
for that last statement. Alright.
Why is it that you hunch over so much to your mic?
I feel like I'm missing something here. Can someone put my chair up?
No, your mic is not as high as mine. See how my mic is higher?
You're taller than me. Your mic should be higher. They're pretty even.
Well... No, you can see it in the thing. See, mine's here.
Yours is here. Yeah, but the actual...
You know what? You do it however you like. You do it however it's comfortable for you.
You're doing a great job. Where is even the...
What do you mean that's why Luke has a beard now?
Luke has less beard this week than he had last beard.
Last beard? Oh yeah, someone put my chair up.
Oh, okay. There's your problem right there.
You looked really uncomfortable. That's why I was trying to... It wasn't great.
I was trying to adjust. I was trying to help you through criticism.
I was...
I love that you didn't even say constructive,
even though it actually was. Yeah, no.
No. Don't even want it to be.
You move your chair down, then the mic down. Yeah, but the chair went down by more.
Yeah. Get good, scrub. What do you want?
Leave me alone.
Should we do this thing? No.
What? If we all showed up, we got credit for it.
We can just go home. Yeah, technically the streak wouldn't be broken.
Yep, and technically we went live.
Just because YouTube was left out. All right, resuming the selected.
Booped.
What's up, everybody? And welcome to The WAN Show.
What's going to be a great show today is what I would say
if Microsoft hadn't done the unthinkable,
the appalling, the inexcusable thing that they did.
I'm actually genuinely upset about it. They have killed the blue screen of death.
How can you kill death? How can one kill death? Does it make any sense?
We'll be talking about that. We're also going to be talking about some additional issues
this week that HouseFresh, who you guys may remember
if you watched the big video this week that we did
on companies suing honest reviewers that HouseFresh highlighted
where basically as far as we can tell,
independent review sites like theirs could be headed
for yet another kick in the teeth while they're down.
What else we got this week? Any good news? Oh, that can't be good news.
You already said enough words that I know it's not good news, but sure, do go on.
It might not even be news to be completely honest. The Trump phone no longer promises that it's made in America
and also somebody made their own version of a Steam Controller 2.
Pretty cool. That's good news. That's fun.
That's positive.
The show is brought to you today by...
Oh, I did it a little early. Rove Lab, Proton, and Thoram.
Of course, alongside our RAP partner, Dbrand, our laptop partner, Dell, and our chair partner, Secret Lab.
Let's jump right into what is, of course, the big news this week.
Microsoft has killed the BSOD and introduced the BSOD.
That's right after nearly 40 years of blue screens,
except for that short period with Windows Vista, but nobody remembers that.
Microsoft has decided that they want to, and this is a quote,
improve clarity and provide better information
on their kernel panic error screen.
So gone is the blue screen of death
and in is the black screen of death,
which will now list the stop code and the application that triggered it.
But riddle me this, Mr. Luc Lafrenier.
What, if anything, would have prevented Microsoft
from putting that information on a blue screen?
They didn't have to make literally any changes other than just adding information
that should have been there for the last entire amount of time.
This is just dumb.
I am actually more annoyed than I should be, but very annoyed.
Well, I, for one, am actually pretty happy
about at least part of this. Oh, yeah, the more information is good.
Yeah, the more information is a huge plus.
I mean, the number of times that I have encountered
an error on a Windows-based system
and had it just say, you know, error handling at, you know, 0x0x8322
and you Google it and it's just like, there's no information.
It's like, brother, if you know what caused the crash,
which you must because there's some kind of code
that has to indicate something, tell me.
And a lot of the time, you know, I still remember the first time I fired up the reliability history
and the, what's the other one?
So there's reliability monitor and performance monitor
has some reliability stuff in it as well. But the first time I fired up reliability history.
And I was like, oh my God, it just tells you in plain text,
this was caused by your NVIDIA driver.
Thank you. Why wouldn't it just say that right on the crash screen
where any user would know where to find it? Like, that's a huge plus.
I'm actually... I'm super down with the info.
I just hate when companies take, like,
everyone liked this. I mean, no one liked, you know, getting a blue screen.
No, but they liked that it was the blue screen. It was part of the culture.
And you know what? Microsoft, I actually really loved
when we went from the old blue screen of death.
The little unhappy face was awesome. To the little unhappy face.
I liked that they added the progress bar
for dumping the error logs.
Just add the info to this. And the funny thing is they actually, like,
have always had some information about the error.
So, and it's actually here as well.
That's a really bad screenshot that we can't really, like, see. But there is information.
They had a QR code. I don't really see the point of losing the iconic blue color.
Yeah, just don't change the color. The rest of it's great.
I have no issues. Like, please, yes, add more information.
Fantastic. If the title was Microsoft Upgrades the Blue Screen of Death,
it would have just been awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It would have been great news. I mean, every time Microsoft has upgraded
core operating system utilities, things like Task Manager.
Yeah. I think we've met those changes with extreme positivity.
In fact, I was back on an older version. I forget what version of Windows I was on,
but I was on an older version of Windows. It doesn't have a lot of the new quality of life features
of the current Task Manager. New Task Manager is way better. And I was like, man.
Search, dude? This sucks. Search is, like, fantastic.
What? Search in Task Manager. On Windows.
Oh. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Only in the Task Manager.
I thought you meant Windows Search. I was like, brother, are you actually high?
What are you talking about? It's not even April the 20th. Like, what are you even doing right now?
No, yeah. Just in Task Manager. A really old Task Manager didn't have search.
Oh, yeah. No, for sure. Yeah.
Luke rage baiting. A hundred percent. I wasn't trying to.
Okay. Our discussion question. And I want to get into this.
I actually think that our writing team is onto something here.
Please read entire question before reading.
These are my instructions, so I'm going to ignore them.
Microsoft seems scared of their own janky legacy.
Reading before reading aloud. They missed one word. When we were working on the Altair Sleeper build, the brand asked us not to use Clippy
in it because of Clippy's kind of controversial history.
But the thing that Microsoft or at least the thing you got to understand.
Microsoft, huge company. So there's going to be people at Microsoft that totally get it all the way to people
at Microsoft who don't get it at all. And most people are going to land somewhere in between.
So the particular person we were talking with, who I think actually worked for an agency
for Microsoft, not even Microsoft directly, tried to talk us out of putting Clippy in
that Altair build. But the thing that they didn't seem to be attuned to is that culture moves a little bit
faster than corporate policy and people actually like Clippy now.
Clippy is like- People like the prequels now. Kitchy and retro.
Like if Microsoft, seriously. If Microsoft made like a desk ornament, giant paper clip with googly eyes and a smile that
you could just have as like decor in your home office or whatever, people would legitimately
buy that. Like if they did a limited edition Clippy statue.
Clippy holds a special place. Dude, would you consider like, you know those little vinyl figurines, like little collectible
vinyl figurines? You don't buy anything, but put yourself in the mindset of someone who buys a thing.
Elijah. Okay, sure. Would you, okay, but can't be Elijah because he's too young to remember any of this stuff.
Remember the little dog in the Windows XP search that would like go get things for you
and stuff? Would you buy like vinyl figures of the various XP like search mascots and stuff like that?
How collectible would that be? As we've established, I don't really buy stuff, but if they're like, you know, we did
a long time ago, we had like a desk budget. Yeah.
Yeah. If I had a desk budget, absolutely. I would buy that for my work desk for sure.
The wizard. The little dog. Get the wizard.
The little dog, the wizard and Clippy as like a trio would go so hard.
That would be so cool. I was reminiscing about the install wizard like last week used to be awesome.
So do you think this is part of the same kind of, I don't know what it is, discomfort with
sort of troubled parts of your history that we encountered when they didn't want us to
have Clippy in the video. By the way, we, we drew a line.
We drew a line. We were like, there were a couple of things that they were not brand safe enough for them.
And we were like, yeah, we figured we probably weren't going to get away with that. We pulled it out, but they wanted Clippy gone.
We said, no Clippy stays.
And we were a hundred percent right. Like the audience fricking loved it.
So that was really cool. Microsoft was actually shockingly easy to work with on that.
Like every brand, guys, you got to understand every brand has their like weird sensitivities
and their history and their policies and all that.
Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent.
What was I, I had a, I had a long conversation earlier this week with Bridget and Sarah from
Creator Warehouse. And we were kind of talking about, you know, what do we envision as the brand for CW?
Because up until now, CW has mostly been an internal department that creates white label
products for LTTstore.com and for Linus Tech Tips and our various media properties, right?
But in the longer term, Creator Warehouse absolutely has the chops to create white label
products for someone else or create its own branded entities or, or whatever, right?
Like if we're talking on a long enough timescale, five years, 10 years, 15, 20 years, right?
What could that team not do? What would you look the CW team in the eye and say, no, you couldn't do that?
They could, they could probably get a rocket in the space.
Oh, well, okay. No, I bet you they could just not manned.
I bet you an unmanned rocket, they could do it. So okay, with that in mind then, it was a, it was a really cool, really open conversation.
And what we were really focused on is sort of what are our core values, you know, what
are the, the key pain points we're trying to alleviate for the average consumer?
And you know, what, what should our brand voice be?
And one of the conversations that we kind of got into it a little on was around the
words geek and nerd.
Okay. So I'm not going to say who was on which side because that's not important for the conversation
right now. Well, yeah, like I don't want to, I don't want people to be like, oh, yeah, that person
that have such a stupid perspective on this or whatever, because one of the things that
came out of that conversation is that while a lot of people are not offended by them or
even self-identify as a keyboard nerd or a tech geek or whatever the case may be, for
a lot of people, those words are a little divisive.
And so one of the things that I think we kind of settled on at the end of the, at the end
of the conversation, although nothing's ever really in stone, I think that the world changes
and if we're not willing to change alongside it, then we're going to be left behind.
But one of the things that was kind of settled on up until now was, hey, that's not going
to be part of like our CW corporate branding.
Maybe you could have like a super laser focused sub brand that is like, you know, geek wear
or you know, or something like that, like, and this wasn't even part of the conversation,
but like, you know, like super street wear looking, but like everything's a tech reference
or something like, you mean tech wear, not street wear, right?
No. I mean like street wear. Yeah.
I'd call it like geek wear. And it's like styled like street wear, but it's like everything's got like tech references
or something. We wouldn't do that. Like it's a bad idea.
Don't worry. But just like, that's an example of the kind of thing that, you know, I think we could
be comfortable using a word like, Oh, I like that, like geek for tech styles, tech styles.
Okay. Anyway. So, what do you think?
Do you think we could build to ECH? The point is that we pretty good for Frank Reynolds in chat.
It's not me. It's good though. The point is that every, every brand has their own kind of like sensitivities.
And one of the things that, you know, not everyone necessarily realized is that those
words can be really divisive for people.
And sometimes I think we, uh, we, I think it's easy to project our own feelings on
things. So, you know, for us, we're sitting here going, Oh yeah, the blue screen of death is like
cool. But that doesn't change the fact that for a lot of people working at Microsoft, the blue
screen of death could be like a really negative part of their job.
You know, if that's something that they are dealing with basically constantly is partners,
customers, their own internal support agents, um, just like, just constantly talking about
how much they hate this thing because of the negativity associated with it.
Like it's an emotional connection. Every time you see a blue screen of death, something bad happened.
I'm not saying I agree. I think that it's also equally an iconic part of Microsoft's brand.
Even the acronym is still the same.
Yeah. They're not getting away from anything. They just made it boring.
Yeah. So our, our question is how do brands navigate the nostalgia for their rocky past while successfully
branding for a modern audience and racing failures practically always wins?
I think, I think the smiley face was, uh, I think the smiley face was a huge win.
I think there was an amazing win. I think there are ways that they could make it even, even friendlier.
Um, like, I think if you had like, you know, uh, a rotating kind of, okay, like, you know
how Microsoft has those, uh, those automatically rotating wallpapers, uh, for your lock screen?
Yeah. Like you can just tell it like, I don't know, you pick a, you pick a lock screen, you know,
wallpaper for me or whatever. Like I think if every blue screen looked a little different like that, that'd be kind
of cool. Like that'd be a way, I'm just saying that's a way to modernize it.
Sure. I mean, if you don't agree, I'm open to it.
Just being friendlier in general with it, like, um, what do I have like a section that
literally just says, what do I do now? Yeah. And then it, it details like some next steps that you could take, something like that.
Yeah. There's, there's a bunch of ways they could make it better.
Just being like, oh, we're going to hue shift it to, to black is, uh, not one of them.
And you know what doesn't make the Trump phone better?
It not actually being made in America.
The Trump organization launched a phone and wireless carrier last week with the, um, somewhat
not that credible claim that the phone was made in America.
Many people rightly were highly skeptical of this made in America claim.
And now the website has removed any mention of that specific claim and replaced it with
other things. So here, let's go ahead and let's make our way to, uh, the phone and see if we can find
some of the differences here. Okay.
No. Proudly American. Is it weird to you that they have a period after premium performance, but no period after
proudly American? Uh, I mean, nothing's really, how do you narrow down the things that are random and weird about
a page like this? You know, Luke.
That's fair. What? Here, hold on.
Can I zoom? Why am I not able to zoom? Here we go.
What are these dots? Yeah. I don't know.
I was wondering if that was, I feel like that's got to be a reference to something.
I mean, I'm not sure. Does he want to chat? No.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't assume that. Like this.
It's also on the one. No, no. Those are stars.
Are those stars though? I mean, they're certainly not aligned in any meaningful way, whereas like this seems
like it's got similar. The original 14 states.
Yeah. I thought it. Is that what this is?
Is that something? Is there 14 dots? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
11, 12. Wait. Hold on.
13, 14. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Oh, okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Original 14 states. Okay. That's something.
That's something. So why are they in the original? So why is there a period here?
Is this for the original Mayflower? I'm just asking. I'm just wondering.
Okay. What kind of, what kind of wording do we have now? Proudly American, designed with American values in mind, American proud design.
That is the biggest load of horse that I think that I have ever seen on a product page.
But the 13 state stars, all the flags, they're in a circle.
They're not like in a random scattered arrangement. What is the reference where they're all just like, I don't know, Luke, I'm over it at this
point. I really don't think it matters that much.
American proud design. What does that mean?
American proud design seems like a weird way to arrange that sentence.
What else do we have? Okay. This is great.
This is great. It gets better. Proud American design?
It's brought to life right here in the USA.
What do you mean by brought? What does brought to life mean?
With American hands behind every device.
Well, someone has to deliver it.
I guess. Somebody's going to deliver it.
I guess. We don't have automated deliveries yet. Somebody's got to, you know, move it once it gets to the port.
I think, oh, the, the verge also noted that the specs have now changed.
That happened fast. The screen is smaller than before and there is no RAM capacity specified.
Our discussion question is how could this happen?
I mean, that's how do you go as far as launching a phone and wireless carrier?
Like you think about the amount of work that even the most lazy of wireless carrier creators
would have had to put into something like that to launch a wireless carrier.
I don't know. Cause they're just on somebody else's backbone. Sure.
But you would have had to like have meetings. You know, how do you manage to do that much work and not manage to know how big the screen
of your flagship product launch phone is?
Yeah. Like, is it not embarrassing at a certain point?
Apparently not enough. Our next discussion question is how would you approach a loved one who has purchased
a T1 phone? You know what?
I'm not going to answer that. I'm not going to answer that. Man, what a loved one.
What are we supposed to be doing next?
You've still got time, so why not another topic?
Sure. Let's do another topic. Do you want to pick one?
Do you want to lift me up? Do you want to pick me up? Yeah, let's do a pick me up.
Steam Controller 2, Electric Boogaloo. Do you want to bring out the pictures?
He's doing something else with jazz. I do. Tommy B posted a video just over a week ago showcasing their custom Steam Controller
2, which was meant to replicate the Steam Deck's controller layout, including the touch
pads. He built several PCBs, and even the touch pads themselves.
He built the touch pads themselves? Yeah.
Yeah, that's pretty cool. I didn't actually know that part.
Before throwing it into a retro purple transparent case, I've seen that.
It looks amazing. Walking through the steps, he went through to get the controller working in games.
Look at it. How cool is that? Look at it.
It looks so sick.
It actually looks shockingly usable. Yeah.
Like, wow. Yeah, 100%. If Valve just released this, people would buy the crap out of it.
Yeah, probably. And like, yeah, okay, okay, okay, I get it.
It's square, you guys. It's square. There are probably a few things that could be done to make it a little more ergonomic,
but like, foundationally. To be able to couch game without a huge couch commander on games that are not traditionally
super great for thumb sticks because you have the touch pads, people would love this.
That's what they really liked about the original steam controller. You could play games like Civ on your couch easier, which was awesome.
And I know Civ has console ports now, but yeah, but still trackpad trackpad better.
He added a nice touch of having them separate, just like Joy-Cons on a Nintendo Switch.
Yeah. Oh, that's so cool having individual batteries in the two sides so you can like, game like
this if you want. You got your track. It can be way more relaxed to be able to put your arms down at your sides.
And the best part? Everything is open source with lots of other guides in case you want to attempt it yourself.
Here's a question. Hold on. Do you mind throwing the link to his video into both the YouTube and Twitch chats?
I threw it in Floatplane already. Here's a question.
I don't know if there's like a video for us here. That's not really a question.
But in a situation like this, say with the guy that made the laptop.
Oh yeah, no, this guy's on our radar for sure. Or this controller. Oh, I don't even necessarily mean in that way.
Oh. Like would it be cool if we just made one following the guide?
Making one following the guide is... Is that fair to them? Is there enough to eat there?
Yeah. I mean, it's open source. But yeah.
But take attention away from their video. Making one following the guide is super cool.
But making one by bringing the creator here and having them show it off and co-host has
two additional benefits. Number one is we get to highlight a smaller creator.
Yeah. Because that's the core reason why I would want to do it. And number two is I don't have to build it.
He already built it. What? So you're not going to build one on camera.
You're just going to look at his. Literally instead of paying someone on our staff to build one, which realistically is
what would probably happen from like a... Because it's cooking show, right?
Like from a video production standpoint, right? I'm not saying I would never do a DIY project again.
I'm just saying that painting my bike almost killed me.
I'm just saying that right now I have another project that if I have two hours to dink around
with something, I'm doing that. Also, I still have to upgrade my ally.
I have the JSO battery upgrade kit with the back panel.
I got my own project. I do not have a lack of projects, sir.
No lack. No lack. Okay?
I refuse. I refuse to shop at IKEA for that particular furniture.
No lack guy. Okay? Yeah.
I was very enthusiastic.
It fit the rubric.
So yeah, so I could either pay someone to build it or I could pay him to fly up here.
No, that's cool. That's even better. And then we also get to highlight him.
I think it's way better. It's a win-win. I get a conflict in my head because I'm like, okay, there's an open source project that
I want people to do more and it's making a cool hardware thing that is within our realm.
Actually, we should make one in order to boost this.
But then the other confusion comes in with this person is also a YouTuber who has their
own video on it. So? So I don't want to take...
Yeah. So it's an interesting concept. But if we fly them up, I mean that just...
Yeah, that just kind of solves everything.
And then you also can, in some cases, get a little bit of context that wasn't really
present in the original video necessarily. Yeah.
No, I... And then there's always the like, you release a video, start seeing some comments or whatever
else and it's like, oh yeah, okay, it would have been cool if I said this or said that
or whatever. And I like collabing. I like meeting with new people.
You know, we don't... We haven't always found the most time for it necessarily.
But when we're able to do it, I think it's just...
It's a win-win and there's no reason not to.
So I think, yeah, I think we'll just reach out and no guarantees.
Maybe he's... Yeah, it might not be interesting. Or maybe it doesn't work for our schedule or maybe we realize after chatting that his
video said everything that needed to be said about it. So there's not really a whole lot more meat on this chicken.
So I'm not promising it'll work out, but hey, it doesn't hurt to start a conversation.
The worst thing that can happen is we meet someone new.
Yeah. Yeah. And we collab and then they hate us forever, you know?
Yeah. I mean, that only happened once.
New topic or what? Yes? Sure, you have 13 minutes left.
We can talk about another one. Riot Games Esports sponsored by Sportsbedding.
I thought you were picking pick-me-up topics. Is there any more in the doc?
I think so. You got like one a month.
Yeah, the RTX 5050 is coming out.
That's a pick-me-up? Well, it's a pick-up for the...
Take your time.
This last Tuesday NVIDIA announced that the RTX 5050 starting at 240 and I'm struggling
today. Their announcement includes lots of charts flexing gains with DLSS because of course
it does and Framegen, but no direct comparisons with those technologies turned off.
So here's the question. Yes. Has NVIDIA learned nothing?
I think they learned a lot, actually. I think they learned that marketing with DLSS and Framegen on works.
Yeah, I think they learned a ton.
I think the community taught them very well, very effectively.
Yeah, for sure. It includes 2,560 CUDA cores, the same number that was included in the RTX 3050.
Let's go. It also uses the same GDDR6 that the RTX 3050 had and NVIDIA apparently chose this to be
more power efficient, but at 130 watts it will still require an external power connector.
That's weird. I hosted TechLinked today and there was a bit of a conflicting story there.
It uses GDDR7 in the mobile variant, which was apparently chosen for its better efficiency
and uses GDDR6 on the desktop variant because I guess who cares about efficiency, you're
running a desktop, was the version of things that I heard.
So basically, man, how can we, oh man, oh man, I missed this part when you were reading
through the thing. It actually has the same number of CUDA cores as the 3050.
So in the dark. That is actually embarrassing.
So it's like a juiced 3050, but with like more AI.
Yeah. How am I supposed to be excited about this, Luke?
You're not. Let's go. Okay.
Our discussion question is what GPU would you buy for $250?
So here, let's head over to, I don't even know.
I always default to New Egg because I'm not actually American, so I don't actually shop
at American stores. And New Egg was just kind of the go-to for so many years, but where do you guys actually
shop now? Because New Egg seems to kind of, kind of suck now.
I'm a little scared. I was just going to say Amazon. Oh, the first answer was Amazon.
Okay. There it is. Yeah.
The second answer was Amazon. New Egg Best Buy Amazon Micro Center. PC part picker is not a store.
eBay, Apple, Apple. Okay. That's trolling.
The Micro Center people came in strong, but they also came in late.
The Apple responders are faster, which is concerning.
Oh, it's probably that Apple Silicon. Benchmark are fans.
Do human benchmark, but for people that are fans of different things and just see who
the better fan bases are. This is not dingable. What are you doing?
What are you doing? Do human benchmark of NVIDIA fans versus AMD fans versus Intel fans and see who the
best fans are. What about the AIO fans?
No. Stop. Okay.
That's a ding. That's a joke. I thought you were making.
I don't get to ding myself. No, Lou. That is a privilege for Linus and you.
No, you have to ding it. All right. I get the sad thing.
Oh, you just muted it and then dinged it.
That's rude. That was awful. That was so deep.
Satisfying. That was rude to the audience. There you go.
There you go. Good job. Just abusing the dumb.
So what would I buy for 250 bucks? I mean, realistically, the ARC B580 is the only reasonable choice.
It's not 250, unfortunately, but it is 250 MSRP, which means, realistically, the 5050
is probably going to come in at around a similar price.
This thing is just such a winner as long as you have a PCI Express Gen 4 motherboard,
so you're not stuck at eight lanes at Gen 3 speed.
And we, I mean, it's been a hot minute, but we did do videos on how to make a little bit
more cash. You can legitimately go mow some lawns.
You are not seriously referring to the blueberry selling video, are you?
No, we did, too. I mean, it was part of the same series.
Linus summer job, is that, what did we, is that what we called it?
Oh my God. There, mow lawns. Mow lawns by laptop.
There they are. We did this. Summer job mowing lawns.
Can you earn a laptop? Summer job selling berries, laptop or bust, episode two, man, 800,000 views.
Dude, the mowing lawns one did okay. It actually did kind of okay.
I mean, for something eight years ago, it has not... Whose idea was this?
That was me, I think. I like it.
Dude, we had the little branded shirts.
I know. I know. I wish I still had my shirts from this series.
Mow grass, mow problems. It was so good, dude.
It was so good. Why is this the most replayed part?
Okay. Is it all coming back for me?
Oh, people are skipping the sponsor spot, I think. Yeah, of course.
Okay, but what happened here? Is this the yard that they finally agreed to let me mow?
What? Okay, what was that thumbnail? I don't know, dude.
What a weird video. Going door to door, man.
That part sucked. That part is terrible.
Probably you know some people in your neighborhood that'll make it a little less weird.
Oh, dude. Door to door sales is an amazing way to acclimate to rejection.
No, it was what someone at the door said. I can't come to the door naked.
Got it. Wild. I also found like, I legitimately did this when I was a kid.
I find it's a lot less awkward. I don't know why.
What, door to door sales? If you're trying to like door to door sales, can I mow your lawn and you're like 12?
Oh, yeah. Oh, dude. So easy.
Dude. Not only, yeah. People want to do it.
Being a little girl is like OP, okay?
My daughters. My daughters got fundraiser chocolate bars, okay?
They got fundraiser chocolate bars.
When I was a kid, sorry, I keep going.
When I was a kid, okay, whenever I got like fundraiser stuff, dude, I could have walked
for miles and like struggled to sell like, you know, bars or whatever, right?
Dude, we walked like one block and they blew through like 30 chocolate bars.
Like every house bought like two or three. I have one.
I was like, this is ridiculous. All you have to do to kill it as a door to door salesman is be a little girl.
Yeah.
And they have ways these days.
Wow, I had a thing that I was going to say.
I really did. Oh, right. I keep changing my car because I have a rule that if there's like-
You have the same car you've always had. Yeah.
I have a rule that if I drive past a lemonade stand, I have to like stop.
That's pretty cool. Usually I overpay- Wait, did you get lemonade when we saw that place?
Yeah. Nice. I was thinking about it and then I was lazy.
Yeah. I like have to. Fairly recently, I was driving around with Emma and we saw a lemonade stand and we were
not in my car. We were in her car and there was no change and no cash.
There was no way to like buy the lemonade and it like actually genuinely ruined my day.
I'm not even kidding because I remember sitting on the corner with Rich, my brother, trying
to sell lemonade when we were like 10 because we were trying to save up for a SNES and I
remember people driving by and thinking like, man, and then there was, I think I've even
told you this story. There was one dude and I think it was like a Jeep or something with his girlfriend and
he stopped by and was just like super cool.
She's like, stop guys. He gave us like way more money than made sense for the lemonade.
We gave him extra lemonade and he was like, see ya. And took off and I was like, I want to be that guy.
That's pretty cool. That's who I want to be. So I have paid his coolness forward and will ideally do so forever.
I like it. I like it. I respect it.
Yeah. So what were we talking about?
Overpriced graphics cards? Yes. Dan, what's the next?
Help us out here because we've... Please save us.
We've drifted. Thank you. Okay.
Do the other thing if you can even explain properly. Oh, merch message.
Just stop talking to me. Merch messages, boys, it's a good week to send a merch message.
Three years. Here we go.
It's finally ready. Three years and countless revisions later.
It's finally here. I want one so bad. Let's watch the video.
We're going to watch the video. Are you ready for the video? I'm ready for the video.
I'm ready to relive my old memories with it. Oh, wait. What just happened?
So three more years to make a transparent. No, no, start over. I missed the beginning.
Okay. Okay. This screwdriver took three years to develop and it took three more years to make a transparent.
Cool shot. So good.
We always knew we wanted a transparent one, so we started working on it at the same time
as the original. But one problem, the plastic we used for the original cannot be clear.
So we had to find a new plastic to make the transparent screwdriver with.
And we did. Fortunately, it was around the same time we were having ratchet issues after switching
manufacturers. It helped us peer inside the mechanism and diagnose the root cause of the issues we were
having. But it was brittle as f***.
So it was back to the drawing board. And this is where we stumbled on Triton, a plastic used by some of the world's most
popular water bottles. And while more durable, it does present its own set of challenges.
It would harden the mold way faster than we would like. And this leads to massive imperfections in the plastic.
This also meant that part ejection was a flippin' nightmare.
Mods would not come off of our molds without cracking, damaging, or flying off into fricking
outer space. And because of the difference in thickness between the top and bottom of our handle,
any handle made with this plastic would have weld lines all over it.
Not only did we have to make the plastic flow faster into the mold by expanding the entry
points, we had to change the end cap mold and make the flow more even from top to bottom
of the handle. We didn't want to just make new molds. That costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.
With a little bit of SOLIDWORKS and a few modifications to our molds, we could do it
for a lot less. All we have to do is replace these parts and we're ready to make a transparent screw
drive. It may be clear now, but getting here was anything but.
And I'm excited to finally get this into your hands.
lttstore.com. Hell yeah. That was cool.
Yeah, they did a great job of that.
And everything Kyle said was right, man. There were multiple times when we thought, you know what, forget it.
This just isn't worth it. How can it be this much bloody work just to fire a different plastic into a stupid hunk
of metal thing to make the bloody shape?
And if we weren't so obsessive about things like those weld lines, we could have been
done ages ago. They didn't actually impact the structural rigidity of the screw driver or anything like
that. It just didn't look. Well, what they looked like, what they looked like was a scratch or a crack.
And if anybody got this thing and it had a crack in it, they'd be like, I already have
a butt. I don't need more things with cracks in them.
No, that's not done even, done even.
It's not worth it. It's not worth it. Good thing.
Question. There's been a few of these questions in full plain chat. Yeah, for sure.
Hit me. So we figured out the material. Triton.
Yeah. It's clear. Fantastic.
I love it. I want one. Purple.
Clear purple. There's no point hiding the fact that obviously we thought of that.
Yeah. Right? Like obviously.
You kind of have to. There's, I mean, look, we had come up with the, with the SNES retro, excuse me, the retro
driver, as well as the Noctua editions before anyone ever suggested them publicly.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And those were not the only things that we came up with in our, in our brainstorming
sessions. And one of the ones that we obviously thought of was throwback N64 clear transparent plastic
colors. Yeah. I think they call it atomic purple.
Yeah. You call it legally distinct, like nuclear purple. So, so look, I'm not going to deny that we've thought of it.
And now that we have a clear plastic base, I'm not going to deny that the chances that
such a thing could exist are higher than they were before we had a working clear plastic.
This would have to sell decently well. However, well, okay, that, but I wasn't even, I hadn't even gotten there yet.
So this has to be a commercial success before you see any more clear colors.
And number two is that once you add the dye, you can change the flow characteristics again.
Yeah. Okay.
So if everything goes great and we don't have to do three years of mold tuning again,
then obviously we'd love to do it. But that's not a guarantee right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now, the product we have for sale is the transparent screwdriver.
Should we do a little unboxing? Do you want to do an unboxing?
Yeah. Here you go. Your very own transparent screwdriver.
Yeah, go for it. Oh, it's mine? It is now.
Taking it home. You could, I mean, you could try holding it up into the frame so people can at least
see it. Oh. Good Lord.
Oh. Cute box design, right? Yeah.
Shout out Sarah and her team. I think our, our packaging game is like so much better than it was back in the, back
in the day. Well, there we go.
You get the LTT card. Yeah. Heck yeah.
That shows off our bit sets. Yep. What's the QR code for?
I don't know. That makes sense. Heck yeah.
You get your bit load out. Is it like, oh, it's a gradient.
I see. I was like, okay. Yes.
And you can actually like see through it too. Which is pretty cool. There's not like, I mean, the box is cool and stuff, but it's, it's, it's sort of right
there. Yeah. I mean, look, personally, I've always been pretty minimalist when it comes to packaging.
Yeah. I don't like spending a ton of money on something that people are going to immediately throw
away. Um, but the team is always kind of pushing back on me for, you know, hey, presentation
matters. And I think we've found a good middle ground. There's no waste in there.
Yeah. All of that is recyclable. Yep.
And I think it looks great. I think they do a really great job of the presentation of the product, um, when you open
the box. Absolutely. I do like that it's like very, like if I put it all back in here, it's, it's just right
there. It's just right there. No, they do a really great job.
It's available now at LMG.GG slash transparent screwdriver.
I know I mentioned this, I think last week or whenever the last one we looked at it was,
but being able to look like that at the bits that are inside is actually awesome.
Hold on. Luke Cam. I like it so that I know if there's any missing.
Exactly. I mean, for Sony reasons. Super.
You can know whether it'd be triggered or not. Let's add another bit set in it. We have a bunch of different bit sets.
You might have more than just one that fits in the screwdriver. Being able to check, Oh, is that one that I'm looking for in here is kind of nice without
popping it out every time, even though that's kind of fun in its own, right?
Yeah. No, they, they absolutely killed it on this thing. I'm, I'm so excited to finally bring this to market because we've had, like Kyle said,
we've had transparent screwdrivers since before we launched the original screwdriver.
But they were just made of a plastic that was so brittle that we couldn't launch it.
And like he said, that it was with the transparent selector rings that we were actually able
to diagnose the issues we had with the ratchets that were delaying the launch of the solid
color screwdriver. So transparent was beneficial to us, both in terms of the coolness factor and in terms
of the legitimate aid that it gave us in our product development.
It is. Can we get close enough that people can see that?
I don't know. You'd have to be like, there's a good question indeed.
Actually here, you know what? Yes, we can. But I'll have to get up and you'll have to talk through it.
No, no, Dan. You're dialing the focus. Okay.
Oh, Lordy. Oh, here. Okay.
So it's pretty dark.
So are you showing it changing with the selector switch or whatever?
Oh, yeah, you can't really see it super well. In person, you can see it very clearly.
But like when you rotate it back and forth to either make it so that it's twist right
or twist left or neutral where it's fixed and it's not really ratcheting anymore, you
can see the selector switch change for that.
And due to our lighting and the camera setup, you can't really, I mean, you've got like
the blank white bit showing right now. No, no, that's not blank.
That's the little spring-loaded dupe that gives it the feel.
Okay. So yeah, he's showing the haptic feedback of changing the switch right there.
There's a little metal spring-loaded thing that you can feel.
Now this is the part you really can't see that well.
But that's the rocker. So when you change it to twist left or turn or twist right or the neutral position, you
can see it turning. There we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you can see like a paddle in there kind of flipping to either side. And then there's also as it turns.
The function that one serves is that's the reverse mechanism.
So one of the things that we modified in our ratchet, one of the things that LTT screwdriver
haters love to say is that it's just a Mega Pro screwdriver.
It's not. The ratchet goes the other way. And part of what we did was keeping the profile of it the same so that it still fits in this
tiny space. But it has that reverse mechanism so that our ratchet goes the direct.
So when you turn the screw this way, you flip the ratchet the same way instead of it being
opposite. All while staying slim.
That was one of the things we did. And then also the like the tactile feedback on the little spring-loaded at the back that
was really hard to find too. And then you were going to say when you keep rotating, sorry.
Yeah, there's one more thing you guys couldn't see, which is as you're actually ratcheting,
you can see the little, the thing that is making the click, you can see it flap.
Yes, you can as it goes through the teeth. Yeah, which is actually like pretty cool.
Here, hold on. Let's try it. Let's try and get that.
That's worth capturing. It's hard to see. But it is genuinely pretty cool.
I think that's sweet.
I just really like being able to see because when it mentioned like it helped them diagnose
the mechanism, I was like what? Oh, there we go.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that works.
Yeah.
And then I think if you go the other way, it's the one on the other side, right?
You'd have to change the direction, but I think it's the one on the other side.
I think it's all the way over on the other side of the white piece.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, not there.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah, you can see it moving.
There you go. There you go. It's not a camera, but it is extremely obvious and he's the same person.
This is a consistent issue, but yeah, it looks awesome.
Very cool. That's wicked. It's very cool.
Someone asked if it feels the same.
It does, I think it feels the same to me, or at least very similar.
Yeah, as the same. The profile is the same. It comes out of the same mold.
We made modifications to the mold. They're saying does the plastic result in a different hand feel?
No, because the plastic hand feel is from the EDM texturing technique that we do on
the inside of the mold. That roughness is intentional.
What roughness? The slight sort of blasted look and feel of it is very intentional.
It could be completely glassy clear smooth if our mold was completely smooth, but we
found that this level of roughness and texture was a little bit nicer for grip in the hand.
Not a ton of grip. It's not the grippiest screwdriver in the world. I'm not going to pretend that it is, but it adds just a little bit to it.
It will probably, you know what, I'm not going to guarantee what will happen over time, but
what I have seen is the solid color ones have tended to smooth out after extreme use.
Oh, so you think that might also happen? I don't know. No guarantee.
I will say nothing. I will say nothing.
Glad you guys like it. Seems like people are, seems like people are super, super into it, but that's not all.
We also have the transparent collection.
Oh my. Okay.
These are actually pretty cool. Do you want to read out the thing while I put them on?
Sure. Also before a question before I start reading that, is there going to be a transparent stubby?
If the full size, which is our best selling screwdriver, if the full size is a huge success,
then who knows? There could be a stubby.
It could happen. I would never say that for certain it would not happen, but we do have to evaluate our
products based on their potential for commercial success.
The transparent screwdriver will be the major indicator for whether or not we will see other
colors of transparent, assuming that technically it is feasible and whether or not we will
see other designs in transparent. Yeah.
The rest of the blurb, we have two brand new print order designs inspired by the theme
of transparency. The X-ray vision officer zip up hoodie, which is not the first one he's starting with.
So I will switch what I'm saying. And the core, featuring the X-ray vision officer zip up hoodie, featuring an X-ray of your favorite
chief vision officer and his, or at least his teeth, it's you, take it directly from
where we got his wisdom teeth pulled, improved with $3,500 worth of headgear.
I saw it on set before we got here, I didn't realize it was your head.
You can see, hold on, yeah, what is the $3,500 to the head?
Is that a VR headset? It's an Apple Vision Pro.
That's funny. So we CT scanned the Apple Vision Pro.
I should have seen the earrings. I see it now. There's the earrings right here.
Oh man, I get it now. And then those are my actual, like dental scans.
It's funny because I had the idea when I was, this company is so weird.
I had the idea when I was chatting with Lisa, who wanted to do like, like this kind of like
cool, because we got the CT scanner. We were like, oh, we should do something with like clear something, right?
And so she had the idea of doing like, you know, it's like a, like a kind of cool skull
tech, something design. And it was like, at the last minute, I think we'd already kind of like approved it.
And I was like, yo, Lisa, super weird. But like, if you guys called like my dentist, do you think they'd just like give you my
x-ray scans and then, and then could you like put that into the, because obviously that's
not like my, my skull head case or, you know, whatever, right?
So it's like, it's a, it's a skull image, but the dental records and the, the bits that
are me are inserted into it.
So those are my teeth, which is flipping while I can't believe my dentist gave them to them.
No, like, like we don't, we don't have a clean scan of like my, the top of my skull because
they don't take pictures of that when you go to the dentist. Things show up in the dentist.
They do. Oh. Yeah.
Cause it's, it's like this area here, but they don't have like up here. There'd be no reason for them to blast my brain with x-rays.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Narcissus button.
For what? For, I don't know. It doesn't, it doesn't matter.
I don't know. Um, anyway, there's, but wait, there's more.
We also have, uh, and the core memory t-shirt featuring a different angle of that x-ray
and upgraded with more co- Oh, okay.
Don't mind that the print quality is kind of faded on this.
It'll be like this one, uh, but this is just like, this is a test one.
These are print to order. So they'll ship in a little while. Um, but yeah, here, if we can get a, if we can get a closer look at this one, you can
actually see, you can see the earrings and then, yep, that's my teeth.
That's my toothies.
upgraded with AMD inside. Of course. Yeah.
Is that clear? Yeah. Cool, right?
I like it. Yeah. I thought, uh, I thought Lisa did a great job with these.
All right. What else, what else we got here?
Anyway, all available now at LMG.GG slash transparent collection.
Uh, what are we, uh, complicated.
Yeah. I think I'll probably leave that alone for now.
Got it. All right. What, uh, what are we supposed to do now, Dan?
Oh, I really like this. We're supposed to explain merch messages. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. If you want to, if you want to interact with the show, all you got to do is, hey, maybe
by picking up a cool transparent screwdriver or one of the transparent collection hoodies
or t-shirts, um, just go to lttstore.com, add something to your cart and you'll see a little
box for a merch message. We think merch messages are the best flipping way to interact with the show because unlike
a Twitch boot or, uh, SuperChut or whatever, um, you can throw money at your screen with
a merch message and even if we don't get to your message, hey, you'll get high quality
merchandise in return. A kick chair. A kick chair.
A kick, kick, kick, kick, kick. A Twitch boot and, uh, sorry, what are we talking about?
Anyway, the point is that, sorry, that's a bit of a reference to the pre-show or wait,
I don't even think that was on the pre-show. No, that was just our conversation that we had privately.
Anyway, the point is, leave a merch message in the cart and it will go to producer Dan,
who will, oh my God, no, no one's helping you, who will reply to your message or will forward
it to someone internally who can help you or might even curate it for me and Luke to
respond to on the show.
Somebody links me this. We have a video of it.
How cool is that? It's like someone did cool stuff.
So that's the ratchet reverse. Yeah. I'm sure there's also a video on there of the, uh, the flappy panel.
Dan, do you want to show them how a merch message works?
Yeah, sure. I've got lots here. It's been live for about an hour and we've already got about 300s of it in one every 10
seconds so far.
My original all black driver is still kicking in about to have a brother.
Question for Luke. What experience do you have in the D F I R D F I R I don't know what that is.
A digital forensics and incidents response.
What experience do I have in digital forensics based on that he wasn't familiar with the
term. I'm going to say, uh, not that much cyber security things.
Oh, well, um, I mean, uh, officially not a lot wink.
Howdy DLL. This will be the sixth screwdriver I've gotten after your support team sent me a new one.
I was wondering, is there anything that you have bought multiple times just because you
like it? Oh, yeah, almost certainly.
Oh man, what am I, there's, there's gotta be cereal.
I'm not consumables don't I just because I like it.
Okay, that's the tough part. Just because I like it.
Not because I could use a second one, but just because I like it.
I think I have an example. Okay, hit me.
These shorts. They're like way too expensive.
My whole thing is that I don't spend money. These particular ones are, I think 10 years old at this point and I wear literally these
particular ones, like at least once a week and they still look totally fine.
They are just tanks. Okay. Does this count?
I owned a copy of Final Fantasy VI when I was a kid as an adult with, I don't even know
if I have a working Super Nintendo at home. I bought a cartridge.
But is that, is that more of a collectible?
That's a collectible, I think. That's a collectible because I have no intention of actually plugging it into a Nintendo.
You did technically buy another one because you liked it. I did. I don't know if that counts.
Man, I'm trying to think. I bought another one just because I like it.
The Tall Boy shirt. Like I buy multiple, I consider clothing almost a consumable.
But I've bought like seven of the exact same one.
Okay, tell me this. NPC. I bought five pairs of Yonex's 65 WX2 shoes.
But it's because I'm going to go through them and depending on their product refresh cycle,
sometimes they don't have a wide fit. So I just stocked up on them.
Does that count as buying more because I like them? I think the problem with my shorts, your shoes, my shoes, we're treating a thing that isn't
generally seen as a consumable as a consumable. We like it so much that we're renewing.
Oh, badminton shoes are very consumable because of the strain from all the lunging.
Like do I, I should show you what the insides of my badminton shoes look like.
They get scuffed. Like on the inside. The bottoms are fine because you're playing on like a rubber core surface.
Is there an example of something that wouldn't wear out?
That I bought another one just because I like it.
Man. It doesn't wear out. It's not consumed.
Yeah. Like I'd buy one of something just because I like it.
You know what? I own more Xbox controllers than I need just because I like them.
Like I bought... Is that for when people come over? No, that is collectible.
Not always. So I bought that one, the Project Scarlet one, that was given out to the developers
of the, I believe the Xbox Series X. On topic, you have a transparent one that looks sick.
I do. I saw it at your place the other day. I do.
I really like it. It looks awesome. It's pretty cool.
I kind of like immediately wanted one because I don't know what transparent stuff is cool but it's, uh, yeah, I don't know.
That might be on the collection side of things. With all this stick drift, people are saying Xbox controllers are kind of consumable.
It's, oh, yeah, I'm not, I can't even tell you you're wrong, brother.
No, no, no, no. I can't even tell you you're wrong.
No. Oh, Lordy, just because I like it.
I feel like we're putting too many caveats on it.
Hmm. Well, their example was the screwdriver, which has a utility to it, but is not something
that you would expect to like die.
Yeah. Like there's probably, there's probably tools that I own more than one of, but I wouldn't
say that it's ever happened just because I like it. But if you're going to get more than one of these, you would probably get different versions
and at that point are you collecting? I think so.
I, okay. In that case, I think my Xbox controller counts. Yeah.
Because this could conceivably wear out. That was the direction I was going in.
It could be collectible like an Xbox controller would, but realistically, you can only game
with one controller at a time. You can only screw with one screwdriver at a time.
Well, you know, unless you're inside out, inside out compression screwing, yeah, um,
middle out, middle out, middle out. That's right. That's right.
Um, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with Xbox controllers. It's really stupid and I actually don't care that much, but I have a bit of a weak spot
for cool game controllers. Xbox controllers. I also, I also have a, that cool, um, Spider-Man PS5 controller.
I like the Gears of War Xbox controllers. I've always liked those.
Yep. I'm not even that into Gears of War, but I really like the controllers.
German says children. Yeah. I, I did like, I did like my children.
So I got another one. Yeah. That happened.
Yeah. I don't buy them though. I don't buy them.
I just, there's other ways. E-rents. It's Vancouver.
It's very expensive. We'll explain it to you. We'll explain it to you when you're older.
I might, it might be a little warm for me to wear a hoodie right now.
Let's throw another one in here just because we have a couple.
Dear Dynast Duke and Lan, I work in the defense industry working as a senior engineer trying
to push teams to embrace new tech. What are your experiences you've had to trying to modernize how people work?
I knew, I knew Luke would have this reaction.
You want to take this one?
Yeah. I'm going to take it off a long walk off a short pier.
Do you have any thoughts, Dan?
I haven't thought in months. How is it, how is it trying to?
Most of my brain is just whiskey.
So Dan has been trying to pick the wrong month to stop Huff and Glue at Linus Media Group
Incorporated. We use office 365, Google workspace, Slack, Trello, Monday.com, Asana, Reich, Miro, Jotform,
Google Forms, Google Calendar, Microsoft Calendar, Google Drive, Powerpoint, OneDrive,
Raw Word documents.
Some people use. What's that thing called?
There's obsidian and then there's also the other one. I don't remember the name of and people use both of them.
Notepad, anything you could pause notion.
There we go. Thank you. People use anything you could possibly imagine that has a Trello, a text input, Kanban board
event, and anything you could possibly imagine that has a text input and anything you could
possibly imagine that has a calendar. In my meeting with Sarah, who I am going to call out here pretty hard.
In my meeting with Sarah, she was taking meeting notes in Illustrator.
That is so based.
Luke, let's put that on our SOB. That's kind of sick.
It's vector based, lossless notes.
I'll never lose them.
Dan, through a series of events, ended up trying to unify a lot of that through another
service. 15 standards. Hey, there's too many standards.
Let's add another one called Airtable.
It went flawlessly.
In fairness to the people who were being asked to modernize their workflows.
Sometimes there might have been some issues with the workflows.
I'm not going to attach blame to any particular party.
I have personally found some bugs that maybe they could have been predicted.
Maybe they couldn't have.
I think that rolling out new workflows and new tools can be a challenge on both sides.
There are entire companies that you can come contract in for hundreds of thousands of maybe
over a million dollars to help you do, to manage change.
It's tough and some people do better with it and some people don't.
It's part of the process and it's painful.
Heck yeah. Let's go.
Heck yeah. It sucks. This is a very dramatic, very difficult version because we just did everything.
Getting the writers to change from Word to Google Docs had pain involved but was fine.
No, that was not that bad. Because it's not a huge deal.
Yeah, that in Google Docs in time has gotten a lot more usable.
It wasn't that pleasant to work in years ago. Except for Search.
Search has gotten worse. The search company doesn't seem to be able to do search anymore.
I know. I'm seriously considering switching to DuckDuckGo just to get away from AI summaries.
Some of the default sorting too, sorting by relevance will like...
Was it you that I was talking to when I was showing that screenshot of my search results in my inbox?
I was searching for like flight or something like that. Oh, dude.
And it didn't have my most recent one that was marked on red but had like old ticket itineraries
and stuff like, what do you... DuckDuckGo has AI summaries.
Oh, wow. I didn't know that. I actually did not know that either.
Welcome to current year. Maybe we can turn them off or something.
Yeah, there's no escape. Yeah, dude, I constantly get flack because I'll be like, hey, can you like link me that doc
that you have open? And they'll be like, oh, you're shared on it.
Oh my God. No, that makes me scream. Sure, but I can't find it.
Can you just link it to me? I need the link.
It's not going to come up. Then I will literally search for the title of the document in my Google drive and then
show them my laptop and be like, I believe you that I'm shared on it, but like I cannot
find it. I don't know. Speaking of not being able to find things or speaking of AI summaries on the modern
internet, let's talk about HouseFresh highlighting more issues with the modern internet.
If you're not familiar with HouseFresh, they were featured very prominently in this video
on our channel this week that gained a little bit of momentum and I think really resonated
with the audience in a big way becauseâ Great video, by the way.
Oh yeah, thank you. I thought Elijah and the HouseFresh team did a tremendous job.
That's fantastic. In a nutshell, HouseFresh reviews air purifiers and they ended up embroiled in some legal
trouble over accusations that they were treating a particular brand unfairly.
And we kind of dig into, we talked to HouseFresh, we talked to the brand that has been legally
involved with them and dug as best as we could to find the full story.
Anyway, the basic conclusion that we came to is that companies suing independent reviewers
over results that they don't like or agree with is not good and not going to be tolerated.
And just days later, HouseFresh highlighted another issue with modern trying to be a reviewer
that could be a major problem.
So it's actually this tweet right here that prompted me to flag this for the WAN Show
Crew, what they're calling the great decoupling.
And I'll get into a little bit of the more detailed bits in a second here.
But what you're looking at here is clicks versus impressions.
So obviously impressions would be the bigger number over here and clicks would be the number
over here. So impressions are purple and clicks are blue.
And even when they were like shadow banned in Google, these numbers tracked together.
Their impressions go way down so your clicks go way down and then there was a recovery.
But then ever since about February of this year, there's been this phenomenon that has
been accelerating called the great decoupling.
When instead of these things mostly tracking up and down together, they now have a very
substantial spread between them.
And the culprit appears to be AI summaries.
So here, I'll read through the things. So they showed the difference between impressions and clicks that are growing farther apart
mainly due to AI overview results in Google.
So instead of search engines referring people to the original source material from which
they got their information, they're basically just scraping the page, spitting that back
out to whoever's searching for it, and then no longer referring anybody through to the
original source, which means no ad revenue.
No revenue whatsoever because it's not like they're paying licensing fees for this content.
I mean, we talked last week about what this is going to mean for news organizations.
But I guess you could actually kind of classify HouseFresh the same way.
News kind of about how good a particular product is.
Okay, it's not quite news, but I think you guys can understand the parallels here and
the impact that it would have on a news organization and also on a review organization.
Our discussion question here is like, what do?
What does someone like HouseFresh do? How do they survive when they're not getting clicked through?
What would stop Google from taking the affiliate revenue even, spitting out the AI summary,
including affiliate links? Because that's how someone like HouseFresh survives, is they objectively test a particular
device and they say, hey, if you like what you saw, here's the affiliate link.
That's how they make their money. There's a couple people in the full-plane chat saying, how do you even know it's definitely
the AI summaries having this effect? What else changed?
Have you analyzed how you use the internet these days?
This is an extremely palpable change.
I'm honestly surprised it hasn't caused more of an effect.
Yeah, I don't know.
Google changes the algo all the time. Yeah, and you can go back through the history of algo changes and watch that those two things
match each other. HouseFresh is not the only one's talking about this, and then suddenly it decouples and the
change that lines up with it is AI summaries. This is like, I don't know, man.
I don't know how much more you need. What is this going to mean for the lab?
This doesn't mean anything new for the lab because I knew this whole time.
Pretty much. We've talked about this pretty extensively in the past, how the direction AI was going.
At the end of the day, you were just going to ask your LLM, hey, what computer should
I buy and it'll scrape the crap out of our results, and all we can really do is create
formats that are more engaging than interacting with an AI chatbot.
I think that's something that we have a lot of good ideas for how to do, but it will take
time.
I know the lab's been going really slow.
If anything, I think our ever with the lab was trying to go too fast.
If we do anything around speed, it will continue to slow down.
Things have been pretty good. Yeah, things have been really good actually. It's not moving crazy fast, but like Linus said, that's my design.
I know there was a post on the subreddit recently.
I lost my actual official Reddit account. Really?
Yeah. I can log into it on GeoDude.
Like on your computer at home, or your old computer? My old computer, but there's no way to recover the account.
I cannot for some reason, it's not in my password manager.
I have no idea why. So wait, you don't mean you can log into it. You mean you are logged into it.
It's session logged. Yeah, so I can open my browser, go to Reddit, and I'm in the account, but I can't set a
password. I can't assign an email to it.
There's no single sign on that is attached to it. It doesn't seem to be attached to any email.
I think like way back on Reddit, you could make accounts without assigning them to emails.
And for like privacy reasons, I just did that. But I can't retroactively assign it to an email now.
And I have no idea what the password is. It's not in my password manager.
I have no idea what's going on there.
So I need to make a new one, but I wanted to respond. We probably have a Reddit contact.
Like we could probably get this sorted out.
But I wanted to respond to that thread, but it couldn't. But anyways, there was a thread talking about how the Labs is moving slow.
And what I was going to essentially answer with is, yes, absolutely, and I cannot promise
it will move faster. I can probably promise it will continue to not move faster.
But there is really cool plans. We're probably going to be making a video on it soon.
We're doing a lot of stuff. We're hiring a lot, which is I'm kind of like if we if we make a video on this, there's
going to be a bunch of blurry people. And I was I was thinking of just having like titles over their heads.
Nice. So you can tell like what we're hiring and kind of what they're going to be doing.
But it's a bunch of people that are technically like Sims with an old diamond above them.
Yeah. And there's there's some cool stuff coming down the pipe to it's it's been good.
It's just speed is not really going to be the name of the game.
Basically we want to get like when a when a vertical is up to speed, the output of reviews
within that vertical ideally will be pretty high.
But the speed of adding new verticals, especially that is not going to speed up.
Yeah. I'm very happy with with where the lab is at right now.
All right. Well, let's talk a little bit more about AI stuff after we do our sponsors.
Okay. Dang it. This topic.
Wait, we didn't even finish the announcements. I will get to them.
This topic transitions so well into the next topic I wanted to do.
Okay. So you and I have kind of seen it coming for a long time that AI is just going to be scraping
every website and is going to be just making that content its own.
And if anything, it looks like if legal precedent is what I understand it to be, that's going
to get easier for AI companies.
A federal judge in California has ruled that using copyrighted books to train AI models
is their use as long as you purchased them.
But pirated books, those are still off limits.
The decision sided with Anthropic stating that transforming legally bought physical books
into digital formats for AI training is spectacularly transformative and therefore qualifies as
fair use. Fair use here was upheld even though the entire book was copied because the AI model doesn't
reproduce the book's contents or, and this one, this is where I kind of go, or compete
with the original work. Yeah, that second part doesn't seem legitimate or true at all.
Another key part of the ruling is that converting a legally bought print book into a digital
file, even just for saving space or searchability, is itself considered a transformative fair
use.
That's interesting. That's very interesting to me because every time I ever opened a book, it said something,
reproducing this in any form, want any form, is prohibited by law.
The judge emphasized that this print to digital conversion is separate from broader LLM training
and qualifies as fair use for its own reasons.
Shall we allow that to sink in for a moment? It's very interesting.
Our discussion question here is a couple of hypothetical scenarios that I kind of came
up with. As I was reading this when I was going through topics for WAN today, if making a digital copy
of a book you bought is fair use, could this apply to backing up Blu-rays then so that
I can watch them on my Plex on whatever screen and whatever codec that I deem most convenient
for myself? But my understanding is that in certain jurisdictions, that is in fact not allowed.
Because just like with a book, when you buy a movie, you are not in fact buying the movie,
you do not own the movie, you are buying a license for which that disc is a physical
key to use that media in the way that it is licensed for.
For instance, and you cannot like this and you cannot agree with it and that's totally
your thing, go for it. You cannot like it.
But when you buy a Blu-ray at Willow Video, you're not allowed to host a public event
in a public space and exhibit that Blu-ray.
You're not allowed to rent a little commercial property, buy high-senses 110-inch TV, put
it in the front, get some folding chairs and make a little theater and then charge people
admission to see it. You do not own a commercial license to that work.
So to me, unless you are buying a commercial license for the book, I don't see how those
two things can both be true, if that makes sense.
I'm not saying one is right or one is wrong even.
I have my opinions. But what I am saying is that those two things cannot coexist.
A movie, a work of creative art being licensed only for personal use and not for reproduction
or public display and a book that is licensed only for personal use and not for reproduction
or public display should not have such dramatically different rules applied to them.
Somebody needs to do some prompt engineering and get it to output the entire book, obviously
not at once. It won't do that. But if you could get it to output the entire book, like paragraph by paragraph, and then
prove the output, I feel like you could dunk this.
So I had another hypothetical question here.
My understanding is a big part of the argument from the judge is that it doesn't output
the entire book, like you said. But here's the thing.
Even if it only output pieces of the book, like so, it's still ingesting it for commercial
use and reselling it. So my second hypothetical example is okay.
So by that logic, could I take that disastrous garbage dumpster fire of a trilogy, the Hobbit
movies, fan edit them into a single movie, and then as long as what?
I bought three Blu-rays, like sell the output.
That's crazy. Yeah.
And I'm not saying it's crazy. That'd be awesome because it'd probably be really good. Yeah, I'm not saying it's crazy like no one should do it.
I'd watch the crap out of that. I'm saying it's crazy in the context of copyright law as I understand it at the very least.
And look, I'm not a legal scholar. What's up?
I'm going to go chronified and full plane chat said, holy, I just typed read me the
first chapter of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone into meta AI and it actually worked.
So yeah, get it to output the whole book over time, log the outputs and Disney'll love
that. Let's blow some stuff up wild.
I think this is this is not a question. It's a request.
Like I hope that somebody goes through the work of doing that because I think you just
immediately dunk this court case by doing that.
How would it know what the book says? Well, no, what no, if they didn't steal it.
What you haven't heard the topic. Have you?
I just reproduced the whole thing. Maybe right. Right.
Right. In eighth one. Dan.
Eight. Anyway, that's I think all I have to say about that.
Full plane chatter asking if Dan is hallucinating because he's an AI could be I can't do M dash
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You know what your favorite band thing? My answer for what your favorite band was for a long time was really obvious.
It was Blink Money 2 for like ever. I mean that's a pretty legit response I think.
A friend of mine sent me a screen.
I was more of an ICP kid but you know Blink 182 is valued.
Were you? More than I'd probably like to.
Like legitimately? Yikes. They're so sweet.
They're like the best group of people.
Alright. I dropped the intro to an ICP song in the live stream yesterday just to see if Elijah would
have any idea what I was talking about. Like one person in the entire comment section had any idea what I was talking about.
That is insane. Yeah. That's the least thing I was ever going to expect out of your mouth.
What? No, I'm not surprised at all. ICP?
Yeah, he would definitely fit into that crowd. He's very sweet.
I laughed you. I did like some of their songs. But yeah, Blink Money 2 is my favorite band for like ever.
Somebody, one of my friends sent me a screenshot recently that showed, what was it, like classic
music, something like that, on like a song selector thing.
And it was Blink Money 2. Classic? It was something, I don't remember it.
They're golden holdies. Let me find it. Let me figure out exactly what it was.
I'll hold now. Classic alternative? Like what is it?
Yeah, let me... Like what would Blink be? I'm going to dig it up.
That's a huge yikes. It crushed my soul a little bit.
Did he even send it here?
Yeah, I think classic stations are like...
People are asking me what a juggalo is. Holdies. I don't know.
Holdies. But I do know that he walks through the streets winking at freaks with a two-liter stuck
in his butt cheeks. Yeah, I see. I remember that line.
But yeah, holdies. Look. Oh, wow.
All the small things. Holdies.
Wow. Huge yikes. Rough.
All right. A lot of the oldie stations like the best through the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s.
For all you new fathers out there. Remember going to the club?
Britney Spears Toxic equals classical music now.
Yeah, no. I don't think I can handle that. Spice Girls.
I don't think I can handle that. Stop.
Right now. Thank you very much.
I don't get a ding for that.
Fine. I'm still learning the new rubric.
This is very difficult. All right. Do I ding?
Do I not ding? Okay. What are we supposed to be doing?
Oh, merch messages. We should definitely do some more merch messages. Yeah, you want to hit us with some merch messages, Dan?
Yeah, sure. Hold on a second. We still haven't done the rest of the announcements.
Let's do a merch message or two first.
All right. And the other two absolutely love the cargo pants.
Have you seen an uptick in sales since the shift fashion review?
Also more colors of the new shorts planned? I don't think we've seen any impact on sales one way or the other since the shift fashion review.
Still cool. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, like I said, it's super neat that we're even in the same conversation as like global brands.
I believe that the creator warehouse team has shot their video sort of looking at some
of what shift fashion said, responding to some of it.
I haven't actually watched it yet. I think it's still in the editing queue.
So that'll be coming up on Floatplane sometime in the next little bit.
LMG.GG slash Floatplane. And then it will also be going live on LMG clips, which is where when clips go just so
that I think the optics of us responding on a paid platform would maybe not have been
that great. You know, that's fine. So we're going to have it available for free.
I don't know if it'll be up on LMG clips forever. I think a lot of the time when we put exclusives up on LMG clips, they don't stay up forever.
So I actually literally do not know what the plan is there, but we are going to have.
I think the biggest thing is it doesn't like really make sense to be a mainline LTT video,
but then like doesn't make more sense.
Someone disagrees with me on cotton poly blend.
So we're going to make like an LTT video. Let's see how that's valid.
Our response. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Battle of the fabrics.
I'm sure people would care. Just maybe not our people. Yeah.
Someone someone would care. Someone would care a lot.
Yeah.
Sure. Hey dot DLL.
Can we take a moment to rant about Google TV OS?
Why do smart TVs only last a couple of years? Bring back the plasma.
Column capital D. Period.
Love the videos and physical products. Keep them.
Yeah. You know plasmas were like had longevity issues, right?
That was like. Mentoriously. Like that was like the drawback of them.
Yeah. Other than the cost. Was it ironic?
Were they being a funny person?
I don't think so. Were they being a city? Haha.
They might have been. If we look at context and assume that they're they have all their brain.
I'm actually not sure if I agree that smart TVs only last a couple of years either though,
because you can even if you're even if your OS goes out of date or you know gets like
kind of laggy and unresponsive, most modern smart TVs that I've interacted with have a
mode where you can set them to fire up just on one of their inputs and then you can just
get like an Android TV box and then you like can just run that.
Honestly, that's how my C2 works. Yeah.
I feel like TVs have been pretty solid. I mean, until you break yours.
It was not me. That was not me.
Really? You're going to throw your SO under the bus rather than just take it like a man.
I also didn't say.
I just said it wasn't me. Well, you're the only two people who live there.
You're going to throw your bird under the bus. Maybe it was a bird.
Maybe a bird ran into it. Yes, a 26 gram budget.
Managed to break your television.
Yeah, but you should have seen the other guy.
One of them got out trying to give medicine or something.
I don't remember what was happening, but one of them got out in a in a bathroom and it
kept flying into the mirror lightly. It didn't have a lot of distance to really get up to speed, but it kept flying into
the mirror kind of bumping it thinking that it could fly there.
And once it landed, classic budgie, it's all like scared and stuff.
It lands, sees itself in a mirror and immediately is like friend.
Hello. I'm making friends now.
Anyways, sorry. No one cares. It was funny.
One more. Hey, Duke Leonard and bread RSVP to a wedding, but found out someone I really disliked is
going. What should I do? Go anyways.
He asked the anonymous button hasn't worked on a message for a while.
Yeah, these are none of these are anonymous. Oh, wait.
Here's one. This one's anonymous. Okay, skill issue.
Maybe you could just type the name anonymous, but it could actually be a problem.
So maybe it did not. We can look into it.
I don't know what would have changed. Someone I really dislike is going.
Okay. Well, I do have actually some pretty good advice for this.
That person you dislike. Don't fuck them.
Oh, damn it. I mean, don't hook up with them at the wedding.
It's good advice. It's good advice.
Where were you a decade ago? Yeah.
See, I could have saved you, Dan. I could have saved you.
Thanks. Okay. I ruined a reception.
More advice. More advice. Okay.
Don't strip down.
Don't strip down in the middle of the wedding.
And if you do, don't dance.
Don't dance on the table.
Okay. And all seriousness. It's not your day.
Yeah. It's the couple's day.
If they want you there, then, you know what?
Do your best. If you absolutely can. I mean, I don't think it's like, if you cannot attend this event without, you know, fighting
this person, then don't go, right?
Yeah, don't do anything that would disrupt. Yes.
It is not your day. It is their day. But with that in mind, it is their day.
It is not your day. If they really want to fight, have a pre-written, in an envelope, invite to them.
And if they start making a thing, hand them the envelope, and the envelope is a time and
place. And so if you want to, if you want to be there to support them, because they obviously want
you there, otherwise they wouldn't have sent you an invitation, then you should just, you
could politely ask to be seated at a table as far away from this person as the venue
allows. And unless it's a... Don't ask the bride and groom.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ask like a bride's maid.
Or like someone in the, it's one of the groom's men or something.
And if that absolutely cannot be accommodated, because it's a super small wedding or something
like that, then you just, you have to make the choice that's right for you.
I would recommend if you are not able to attend, you know, send it like a nicer gift, you know,
at least so you can show you were thinking of them, you know, drop them a note on the
day, send them a, send them a gift that's kind of on the nicer side.
Just make some effort. Make some effort. That's all.
Don't be dramatic. Yeah. Oh, sure.
Yeah. Finish announcements, maybe. Um, no.
What are you doing? My job now? We're going to get yelled at so much.
All right. Sammy just appeared like Slenderman a second ago.
He did? What is he still doing here? He should go home.
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Don't worry. We got you. So, Tesla has launched Robotaxi kind of last Sunday.
Tesla launched sort of it's highly anticipated Robotaxi service in Austin, Texas.
This launch included a limited Geofenced area of Austin that has been thoroughly mapped
by Tesla and it was available by invite only.
So we've got a link to the Geofenced area and then we have a Google Maps link for reference.
So I'm just going to pull these up here in screen share with you guys.
So here's Google Maps. And here is the Tesla area.
And, but, wait.
Oh, okay. Oh, wow. Uh, is that, is that as small as it looks?
It's not all of one city.
Oh, it's not even close to, it's not even close to all of one city.
It's like, yeah. Uh, okay.
What are the city limits? What am I even, what am I even looking at here?
So here. Map.
It's, wait, where's the two, where's the two 90? Okay. Why am I, yeah, why am I looking at, why am I looking at these layers?
Okay. So Lake Shore Boulevard is here.
Uh, why am I having such a hard time with this?
Did I zoom in on kind of the wrong spot? Uh-oh. I think I might have lost it.
Here it is. Okay. I think I got it now. So basically it's just along.
It's just along here. Why is, why is the 35 not labeled here?
Okay. What is this one? Is this like 71 or 290 or something?
What is this? Okay. I'm so confused. Oh, here's the 71.
Oh, okay. No, it's a little bigger. It's a little bigger than I thought. It's a little bigger than I thought.
Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. So the 71 here, where it converts to the 290, that's right here.
There we go. We've managed to, we've managed to map this out here.
And then it kind of goes up to here and kind of, kind of to here.
So it doesn't make its way into rolling wood here. So that's, wow.
So it's this little chunk of Austin, right here.
Right here. Cool.
Can we see it? I mean, that's something, you know, right?
That's kind of something. So if we, if we go to the, the satellite view, yeah, I mean, oh yeah.
Okay. I was going to say, I mean, that's most of the like populist areas, but I, Austin's
a really, well, Austin's a really big, Austin's a really big city.
Wait, this isn't still Austin, is it? No, it can't be.
How big is Austin? Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Uh, neat. So that's cool. Um, a number of kind of pro Tesla influencers received invites for the service and Tesla
has not stated when the service will be available to the general public.
Um, the trial includes 10 to 20 model Y vehicles that have a robotaxi decal on the
side of the vehicle, and cars included a Tesla employed safety monitor in the front
passenger seat that can react to dangerous situations by pressing an emergency button.
Got it. All fares within the service area were set to a flat $4.20.
Nice. And there are multiple videos of passengers live streaming their experience from start
to finish. There were some issues with one passenger finding their Tesla at the pickup location.
Oh, there were some issues with passengers finding their Teslas at the pickup location.
This is like Pokemon hunting. One person on Herbert Ong's live stream said, but it's like robotaxi hunting.
And the riders were asked by the safety monitor to show identification when getting
into the vehicle. Once seated, the rear scene screen instructs riders to fasten their seatbelts and presents
a start ride button. Because riders booked the car through the Tesla app, their preferred music app is
available on the rear screen with playlists and save tracks. That's pretty cool.
The rear screen also includes buttons for support if you ever need assistance or pull
over to end the trip early. Most riders described their trips as smooth and uneventful, although there are a
few clips where less than perfect behavior was caught.
So Dan, I actually need your help for this bit because we don't want to watch these
videos on the WAN Show because that would be rude. So what we're going to do instead is we're going to link everyone and we're going
to have a little watch party. Yeah. So if you could link them to the first one first, we're going to start watching
together. So Luke, do you want to load it up?
Sure. One sec.
Okay. And ready?
Luke and play.
Okay.
Oh, wow. It was going really slow.
Okay. So that's what we're supposed to see. What?
So the Tesla in the left lane is one of the, one of the cyber cab Teslas.
Oh, not the car that's driving. Okay. I was like, the car that's driving seemed, the car that's driving seems to be
doing fine, but that one in the left lane is going like super slow.
Okay. Got it.
Interesting. I mean, I would say that that's probably not the end of the world.
As far as things go. Uh, okay. Number two, ready?
And go.
Oh boy, I got an ad. Brilliant.
Hmm. What happened in this one? I'm blind. He's kind of break slams, it seems.
Oh, wow. I don't have audio, but I think that's what happened. Yep.
Just for reasons. I mean, okay.
Again, I'd rather it, you know, stop for reasons, um, rather than accelerate for
reasons. So that's something. Um, number three is a safety monitor intervening for a UPS truck that is backing
up so we can see, uh, this is from Dave Lee and it's going, it's going, it's going,
it's going and this UPS truck is coming.
Here it comes. Here it comes. We're just, we're chilling.
We're chilling. We're chilling some more.
We're just going to chill here. These are the kinds of edge cases, though, that are the reason that I just,
but it cuts to the outside when it drives away.
Uh, yeah, but the safety monitor doesn't appear to be in the passenger seat anymore there.
So he's driving. Uh, I'm going to double check. That's sure what it looks like to me.
I'm going to zoom.
I can't see very clearly. That's what it appears to be to me.
And then our, our, we've got another one that is definitely parked in a parking
spot for drop off.
Let's have a look here. So that's number four. Oh, wow.
Uh, sure. Wow. Is that, is that a handicap spot that it's like not in at all?
I was watching the other one still. Okay. So I'm trying to figure out some stuff.
Okay. And you know what grand scheme of things, these are all pretty, these are all
pretty small issues.
I'd be interested to see, yeah, like for the amount of rides that they did and
the duration of it, like what the intervention rate is.
Um, and like those types of failures and then look at humans driving in the
same area for the same amount of time and the types and severity of the
problems that were caused by them. Now I do agree.
I fully expect if we're going to have some robotic thing driving, I'm not
okay with it having the same amount of problems that humans have, especially
because like something has to be responsible and all that kind of stuff. Yeah.
Um, but I am still interested just purely in what those stats are.
Charge nuclei, 8,300 says Robo taxi is allowed to use handicap parking.
The driver has no legs or head.
That's pretty good. Okay.
That makes sense. That makes sense. Um, so question question. Yeah.
Would you use a service like this in a well mapped area? Do you think there is opportunity for this to work in a busy or challenging
environment? Waymo.
Okay. But let's, okay. Okay. Let's maybe let's not, I'm going to tweak the discussion question a little bit
because Waymo very clearly has the lead here.
Yes. They are actually operating unsupervised.
And when you factor in how few of these cybercabs are actually roaming the streets
in this very limited geographical area. And then if you look at the tweet of the like launch party and how many remote
operators are waiting to take over these things, it's not one to one.
I don't think, but they're, they're ready for basically them to like not be
working pretty much. And that does not show a lot of confidence in the actual autonomous
functionality of the product to be clear. Waymo has the ability to intervene remotely in the operation of their vehicles.
But I, my understanding is that it's not such a high ratio of available
operators to operating vehicles. I don't know if you're trying to meme or not bubbly Charizard, but this
guy train being fully autonomous does not mean that it's the equivalent to
cyber taxis. It's on rails.
Literally, there's no traffic. Literally, it's on rails.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Well, so that people won't sleep on it because reasons, I guess.
Um, so more specifically, if Tesla was available here, if a cyber
cab was available here and Vancouver was sufficiently mapped or whatever,
would you get him one? No, not at this time.
I'm not against it forever, but not at this time.
That was a very small amount of testing to have a significant amount of what
seemed like issues that should be solved, in my opinion.
No, they didn't smash in anything, which is great.
The really curious thing to me is a big part of Tesla's pitch over the years to
investors and owners of their vehicles has been that they're going to own the
race to mapping data by just having all of the drivers of all the millions of
cars that they've sold driving around mapping these areas.
And the way that the goalposts have moved for the launch of this product has
been pretty remarkable for me to behold. And I've just got to wonder, like, is it just that investors don't have the
tech savvy to fully understand what it is that they're looking at and how
different what they've deployed is here compared to Waymo and even compared to
what they've promised in the past. Like, why did they need to do so much manual mapping of this area if their
whole leadership in this space is that they should have the data already?
And the claim being made by their CEO is that, well, because we have all this
mapping data, we're going to be able to roll out new areas like fast.
There's going to be thousands and thousands of these cybercaps on the road at some period, XYZ.
But I just, I don't understand how we keep believing these claims.
You know, fool me once, shame on, shame on me.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
But like, what about the like 12th time I've been fooled?
Like, how, who's accountable at that point?
You for sure.
Just saying. And there's been some comments about it.
I would get in one. I wouldn't use the service.
Those are different things.
How, wait, how are those different? I'm having a bit of a hard time with that.
Um, like if I was at an event, like if we're at CES, and it was like, oh,
there's environment, yeah, it's, it's not so much the risk.
I just, I don't like, I'm looking at a service that based on the videos,
like barely works. Right. So if you need to go any time I've ever had to get into a cab, I actually
need to be at that place in a relatively okay amount of time.
Um, like, sure, there are examples where that hasn't been true, but that's
kind of usually how it's going. And if it's just going to like randomly pull over because a cop is in a
parking lot or something, like, no, I'll, I'll go with the Uber.
Um, I didn't catch the scale last time I was looking at this.
So it looks like the area they have mapped is actually, no, no, it's like,
it's like a few, it's like a few miles wide and tall and stuff.
So tiny, you could conceivably walk it though.
Italy, you would, you probably wouldn't, but this guy, this man walks,
like he'll walk an hour to go somewhere.
Especially if I'm in a place that I like. Yeah. So I'm actually, I'm going to drop a dot right here and then I'm going to get
directions to like kind of a dot like over here.
Yeah. Luca said you wouldn't call one, but if your friend calls one, you would use it.
Yeah. Like I'm not going to like not get in on principle or something. You could walk across the area that they have mapped in on the order of like an
hour and something, but in less than two hours. Where, where were we when we, uh, can you say it looks, it looks like it.
Anyway, if I, if I managed to find the right spot again, when we did the gamer house, the land house,
we're, we're allowed to say the city we were in. Yes. Where were we?
Was it Austin? I think it was Austin. Yeah. That I probably like have.
Fair enough. Oh, not back. Yeah.
Oop. All right. What do you want to talk about next?
What do we get? What do we get? What do we got?
Riot games. Nope. Sure. No, I'm down with it.
Riot games announced that they are opening up betting sponsorship
opportunities for League of Legends and Valorant Esports teams in the Americas
and EMEA. They stated that according to sport radar, there was a 10.7 billion dollar
betting turnover on just Valorant and League of Legends in 2024, most of which
likely being in unregulated markets.
They've partnered with grid to be the required source for official stats in any
sports betting partnerships. They were careful to note that official broadcasts and their social channels will
not partake in gambling sponsorships and that teams cannot have their logos on
their jerseys. So it will be up to each individual team then to craft how sports betting related
content shows up on their channel within Riot's guidelines, content platform
TOS and local regulations.
Riot will also vet each sponsor.
Sure. Oh, wow.
Okay. This is a good thing to have in here. No responsibility for the words.
This is a good thing to have in here. I take no responsibility for the words that are about to escape between mine
meet folds. I wish he was here. Sammy's extremely hot and spicy take.
What are you more of these on Wanshow? Is that this is good.
His TLDR is that Esports isn't particularly profitable at the team level.
So increasing sponsorship dollars for teams plus Riot taking steps to regulate
this is a positive for me.
The sport is maturing and this is the result. But of course, be responsible.
I think it's a good thing for the sport. I think it is a depressingly bad thing for humanity.
That's my take. Yeah, I do think it's a good thing for the sport.
I'm very, I'm very proud that we have never taken a gambling sponsorship.
If I had to choose between the survival of the company and the ongoing employment of
everyone here, would my principles bend?
I have nothing to gain by having this conversation in public and only your
opinion of me to lose.
The truth is, I don't know that stuff. I actually don't know how to identify that scenario, you know.
Well, yeah, because there'd always be like, there'd always, there'd always be
another way, like another way could be we cut staff fans.
Sure. Sure, I could sell Nick like right now.
No, you're not. Denoli 444 says, Luke and Linus, have you seen the gambling stats for young
adults in Canada? It's pretty bad. It's depressing. It's because it's been extremely normalized.
Like I honestly never thought I'd see this. It was, it was totally taboo.
It's quaint to see an old episode of like The Simpsons or something where like,
you know, oh, the guys are over for, yeah, the guys are over for gambling
like, why did it, like, I don't know. I don't know if The Simpsons ever did it, but you know, like sitcoms did that,
you know, like, aren't you a cop?
Yeah, whatever. It's poker night. You know, like that bit.
Now, I don't, I don't think anyone would even bat an eye these days.
No. Like if, if Luke and I gambled right now, would anybody care, it would be normal
content, it would be normal streaming content, which is sad.
The platforms wouldn't care. The audience wouldn't care. You watch sports, which never used to talk about it ever.
It used to actually, they would actively try to get stuff shut down.
And now it is the main advertiser for like everything.
Dude, I talked about it already. The casters talk about it.
I talked about it already, but it bears talking about again or bears merits.
Talking about again. I watched the Stanley Cup Finals this year.
I couldn't believe how raisinly they were promoting problematic behavior.
Problematic gambling behaviors. They weren't just saying, you know, you can gamble, know your limit, play within it.
Like that is in the past now.
That was the limit before. Now it's like, bet on this one.
Don't forget to bet on that one. But have you bet on this other one yet?
Have you put in enough bets? Quick. It's going to like the betting for this is going to close at a certain point.
Don't bet on just one team. Bet on three teams. Like.
There's a, there's a commercial that I saw recently where somebody like they
have a jersey on and they place a bet for that team and then they're like friend
comes over and they're wearing a different jersey. That's the one I'm talking about.
That's a horrible commercial. That is a terrifying commercial because it is promoting stupid betting habits.
Yeah, just betting at any time for any reason for any constantly no research,
no thought process, betting based on the most recent random thing you saw.
That is what they're promoting. It's horrible. It's actually so bad.
God, it like ruins people's lives all the time.
And I don't understand. It's so weird to me that so few people hold this opinion now.
It's so odd to me. Like, is this me just being a boomer?
Hit these two messages. These young kids and they're gambling.
These two messages are back to back in Floatplane chat.
Trashcat says, well, do the other one first.
It's the Frenchiest Fry says my Boy Scout troop did a fantasy football
competition and fantasy football can be fun.
It can be. But oftentimes there's money involved.
And I think it's not a ridiculously wild take to say that playing for not
money could could lead to playing for money, could potentially.
If you are, if you are the kind of person who is
susceptible to be drawn in to that lifestyle right next to them,
my younger brother got hooked on gambling and is like $10,000 in debt.
Those two messages right there, dude, I talked about how how much I hated,
especially after watching Mark, Mark Robers video on how rigged amusement,
like amusement centers and arcades are. I hated how much those games were training my kids for gambling whenever we go.
We'd go into them. It's it's it's gambling with training wheels.
It's kiddie gambling. Yeah.
It feels like that whole I think it's Ness Cafe.
Do you know this story? Am I? Is the wrong brand? There's a there's a brand.
There's a coffee brand that wanted to get into Japan.
But yeah, you know this story. There's a coffee brand that wanted to get in Japan and they worked with somebody
or did some market research or something and found that nobody in Japan likes coffee. They just they all like tea.
So they started introducing like kids, candies and stuff that were coffee flavored.
So the kids would get used. It was Nestle Ness Cafe.
I don't know. It's someone the kids would get used to the flavor of coffee.
And then they kept doing stuff like that. And now coffee is like an enormous industry in Japan.
They got into Japan not by convincing the adults that it was good.
They got into Japan by Nestle owns Ness Cafe.
Yeah, OK, that makes sense. Great by doing.
Yeah, by like effectively advertising to children through getting them used to the flavor.
Coffee, Psyop. So so these little like, oh, it's kind of gambling, but it's not really.
And it's for kids is like definitely to get kids more into gambling when they're older.
That's for sure a thing. That's one of the this who.
Hot takes coming back to Wansho. I'm excited. This is the whole thing about why.
I don't balk as hard
at the Nintendo game price increase. Because if I if I'm trying to think if I had kids and I had to give them a game,
I would much rather give them older games or games that don't have microtransactions
in them. I'm going to dump some cold water on that. Sure. There's literally gambling in Pokemon Blue.
Yeah. OK. It helps that also like just lose.
Also, also. I would say that the.
Oh, man.
Is Nintendo super gotcha? I don't think so.
They'll milk you. They'll sell you amiibo's. They'll sell you two copies of the literally going back to the Game Boy.
They would sell you Pokemon and Red and a link cable.
And the milkers there. They'll milk you, but they're not super gotcha.
Apparently they have gotcha mobile games.
You can't count on anybody. You can't count on anybody these days.
Dang. That's sad.
That sucks. But yeah, I mean, I think there's value to try and to avoid these things.
But it is weird to me. There is anti gambling is like not that big of a thing anymore.
Like everybody just gave up and it felt like everybody just gave up at like the
same time. It was weird. I feel like Twitch just like made it super mainstream.
You know what? Oh, back to what you were saying about Nescafe and the candies and
stuff, that's actually something that blew my mind about McDonald's strategy.
Like. McDonald's has been struggling.
They've been closing stores. Broadly speaking, I don't know if they like had a good quarter last quarter.
They're the worst rebrand in the world. But they've basically, as far as I can tell,
lost their mojo back when I was making the transition to adulthood.
Remember when they brought in, they got rid of the fun, kid friendly
restaurants with play places and they brought in McCafe with the green and the
brown and they just tried to, they tried to be Starbucks.
And it's like, and something that I've been trying to figure out for basically
my entire adult life is what the hell were they thinking?
The only reason that anyone I knew ate McDonald's was because they ate it as a
kid and my kids don't even like McDonald's.
But I will say that the occasional McDonald's we went to when they were young
and they still had more of the ones that had like the play centers in them and
stuff, they enjoyed going there. McDonald's figured it out like decades ago that you just wanted to associate
the flavor of McDonald's with happy family memories and you'd be hooked for life.
And then they were just like, you know what?
Cartoon characters that appeal to kids. No, forget it.
Adults have more money. We should appeal to adults.
Guess who buys stuff for kids? Are you crazy?
Anyway. Good luck, McDonald's.
Truthfully, I don't care about your success. Your food sucks.
And yes, that is just conditioning. So much of marketing, Maori in Flow Plane Chat is just conditioning.
Is it Maori? Maori, I don't know.
Shabham says McDonald's is not a service company.
It's a real estate company. Yeah, but I mean, what's the machine that creates the the money to invest in
real estate? Like you got to you have to have an operating business.
All right.
Ooh, should we talk about Dbrand's kill switch to case controversy?
What does this say? Hold on. Oh, what are you doing?
What am I looking at?
That's awesome.
This is sick. Is that current? It seems like it.
See, like that's sweet. Well, that's not inspiring, but.
Well, yeah, why is fast food so much better in Japan?
It's cool. That's wild. All right, make McDonald's cool again.
Dbrand's kill switch to case has been under fire for having issues with joy
cons detaching when pressure is applied.
Dbrand responded on Reddit with a lengthy post with a lot of focus on how the
device is generally meant to be held.
Uh oh.
They outlined that the issue stemmed from some manufacturing tolerances in the case
for the joy con controllers
and committed to dealing with any affected users.
But the takeaway from the Redditors who saw the post was
you guys did not just you're holding it wrong.
Did you? A couple days later, Dbrand issued a part two to their response.
They condensed their longer response down to just four points and acknowledged
the shortcomings of their previous response. Dbrand provided us something to read.
We fucked up them. Not this time.
It's not it's not my controversy. Hashtag not my controversy.
It wasn't us. Not only did we fuck up by not seeing this prior to shipping, but we fucked up by
responding with 4,000 words that could have effectively been boiled down to you're
holding it wrong, ultimately debating the right or wrong way to hold a console is
besides the point, customers should be able to hold this thing however they want
without the joy cons detaching. After reading the feedback, it is clear that neither our response nor the conditional
if you're affected solution was welcomed by the community.
Since then, our engineering team has dug deep to find alternative solutions,
come up with two and we've communicated this new plan.
Everyone is getting a free replacement, regardless of whether they're severely
affected, haven't experienced the issue, have emailed us a dozen times or have no
clue about any of this. On July 10th, we'll know which of the two proposed new joy cons solutions is going
to be viable. One is mass producible and a real improvement over the current
good, but inconsistent version. The other is borderline impossible to mass produce, but we're going to try anyway
because it will result in a joy con attachment that's truly flawless.
In the end, say that and not do it. That's so dangerous. In the end, we remain committed to candor, responsiveness, and when we
f**k something up, making sure we own it and getting customers the right product.
You, on the other hand, remain short.
I like deep red. Good stuff.
They're good stuff.
Know what else is good stuff? I still remember before we had this level of relationship with them, I remember
one time at CES, uh, I had filmed so many videos and I was mentally cooked and I
got to another D brand sponsorship and I think it was my like fifth of the day or
something. Uh, so instead of saying the ad read, I just said their name like 50
times and the next day I was like, oh man, I probably shouldn't have done that.
And then they saw it and we're like, this is amazing. And I was like, whoo, all right, they're cool.
Oh man, Lordy Microsoft doesn't want another crowd strike incident and is
kicking antivirus out of the kernel. Windows is making big changes to cybersecurity, removing third party
security drivers from the kernel and running them instead in user space.
Kernel space is the layer of the OS with the most privileges, allowing direct
access to many hardware functions and resources. And antivirus software typically likes to have kernel access because it provides
the ability to handle almost any malicious threat that may have wiggled
its way into your system. The issue though is that kernel access can bring substantial stability issues.
A faulty update that was pushed was what caused the crowd strike meltdown that
like actually impacted like world infrastructure was not good.
This is why security experts recommend that Microsoft remove third party driver
access to the kernel. So in July, Microsoft will be launching a private preview of new features as part
of their Windows resiliency initiative. This announcement comes with quotes from a variety of security partners singing
the praises of the move. Notably though, none of these companies have actually committed to moving their
drivers out of the kernel at this time. It's worth noting that Microsoft tried to do this back with Windows Vista,
but antivirus companies filed an antitrust complaint with the EU and Microsoft
backed down because it would have made it so only Microsoft can handle kernel level
security. Our discussion question then is what methods could Microsoft be taking or what
what steps could Microsoft be taking to provide security software with the same
abilities that they have without providing them kernel access?
And I got to confess, I don't know enough about the inner workings of an operating system to even begin to speculate.
Our other question is, I don't know, what does this mean for kernel based anti-cheat
software and therefore potentially the year of the Linux desktop?
Because that's a lot of the justification that I've heard for why they won't port
their anti-cheat to Linux is that they can't run at a kernel level and Windows
allows it. So if neither of them allow it.
And if that's true, what happens to cheating NVIDIA games?
So, OK, it sounds like you're ready to kind of both sides this a little bit.
You clearly, as someone who's security minded, do not want anything mucking around
with the kernel of your operating system. Yes. However, as a gamer who likes to not be,
you know, 360 no scoped through the map from the other side of Tarkov raid or
whatever instance, what are they even called? Yes, that was right.
Raid. Nice. Good. Terminology.
Appreciate what can be achieved through
kernel level monitoring of what's going on on a system.
Or in many cases, not achieved. But is there a better than nothing argument to be made here?
I think we can't just give up on everything just for the sake of gaming.
I also think that if we really do want to get away from
you can never completely get away from it. But if we want to try to get away from the
incredibly rampant level that cheating NVIDIA games is currently at like
literally by far worse than ever.
And there's a lot of evidence for this. I think we're going to have to
funny enough with the consoles like kind of exiting the world right now.
I feel like we almost need to go back to console like devices.
I've said this on Wansho before. It was a hot take back then. I still have it now.
I think you're going to have to have something that's really locked down.
And it has these types of like kernel level totally taken over.
But I would want it separate from my PC because I wouldn't want that level of
secured other people's security stuff on my PC.
Or maybe it's a setup that you can
do on your own computer. I'll tell you what's a setup.
You setting me up for our next topic. OK.
Announcements went up last week from Xbox President
Sarah Bond and AMD chair and CEO Dr. Lisa Sue about AMD and Xbox's renewed
partnership to co-engineer silicon for new Xbox hardware.
This isn't that big of a surprise. AMD worked with Microsoft all the way back on the Xbox 360 as ATI at the time
for the GPU and then provided a custom APU for the Xbox one and series lineups.
It does, however, solidify the direction that the Xbox is taking for their hardware.
Bond speaks about Xbox being a lineup across console, handheld, PC, cloud and
accessories with both leaders emphasizing that backwards compatibility is a priority so you can continue to play your old games on new hardware.
So does that change anything about what you said where it seems like AMD and
Microsoft are coming out and saying, hey, Xbox consoles are not going anywhere.
And does that potentially validate
sort of your take that there's going to be the PC gaming experience,
which is going to just come with all the problems of not being able to have kernel level security, hardware level security.
And would you consider an Xbox console if it offered a more PC like experience
except that it was just games and locked the crap down?
Yeah, one of the problems there is there's absolutely cheaters on console.
And like has been forever.
I do think the barrier, at least right now, I would say is higher because then PC
cheating on PC is literally like advertised in banner ads on YouTube.
Like cheating on PC doesn't require anything anymore.
When I was a kid, it was like you had to at least be like kind of script
kiddie level, yeah, but you could do it and it really wasn't that hard.
Yeah. It was mostly like you had to be script kiddie
level for the awareness more than anything, not the actual ability
to not like nuke your computer in the process and to even like know what
to look for and stuff like that. Now it's like advertised to you and it's like white glove service and you pay
like subscription models for the good ones. And like if you pay enough, there's people that will custom make one specifically
for you to help you from getting banned. Like it is it is a multi, many, many, many billions of dollars industry.
Billions, are you sure? Yep, billions. It's bad with a B.
I'm pretty darn sure it's huge. There's people that play subscriptions for cheats for games that are many hundreds
of dollars, and those are not the custom tailored ones.
There's like it's a it's a huge deal.
There is a lot of really lame losers.
It's crazy wisdom tips. It's crazy how how many trash people there are.
It's actually wild. Wow. Parallelogram in float playing chat says people be paying twenty dollars
a day for cheats that I know of. There's there's weekend passes.
Like it's it's wild.
Is this a big part of what's driving how difficult it is to jump into a lobby and play online now?
In my opinion, are there just so many cheaters? There is an incredible amount.
Like that that Tarkov thing where they were like there's kind of at least one in
every lobby, after that, I started trying to look around.
I was like, is this really a Tarkov issue? No.
It's everywhere. I do think Tarkov could do way more.
OK, that's it's not quite the same thing. Yeah, but that's still a lot.
I believe Tarkov could do a lot more. They could adding replays would be huge and they're not doing it.
And I honestly think it's because people would see how bad the situation is.
They have replays in arena. They absolutely have the technology. They could do it and they're just not doing it.
Tarkov is worse than when that video came out. That's really debatable and extremely difficult to measure.
But my point is that it's everywhere. This is not just a Tarkov issue.
The problem is that the impact of it is extremely high in Tarkov, but it is.
It is literally ever. There's cheaters in Rocket League.
How do you wouldn't it be so obvious?
I guess I guess not. Like if you just want like driving assists or like there's things like you can
get the ball up on your hood and then you can kind of like dribble it by
keeping it on your car and there's there's cheats that can.
Yeah, somebody just said dribble scripts. Yeah, exactly. There's cheats that can do that like car shake for you.
So you would just drive normally and it would keep the ball on your hood for you.
I believe there's other stuff as well, but that's the only one I know of because Sunless Con had a video on it recently.
It's it's it's everywhere.
There are cheaters in Warzone casual. Yeah, they're not even necessarily playing competitive modes.
Like it's it's everywhere. If you're playing multiplayer games these days that are competitive, you're playing with cheaters.
Oh, but but I have good news. This Monday, I attended a meeting at Surrey City Hall.
I don't know where this is going. It was the second reading of our temporary use permit for Whaleland.
And we're good to go. Oh, really? I got kind of the idea based on your body language, but it's nice to hear it officially.
We're in. We're in. That's fantastic. Surrey is down to clown and I don't know if I'm supposed to announce it yet.
But the first Whaleland I have a date and it will be before the end of this year.
So Chase is Chase. Oh, wait, I announced this. I actually talked about this on the live stream yesterday that we did, but a lot of you probably didn't watch that.
Chase is literally working on it now.
Now, right now. Well, OK, not now, but a few hours ago, he was before he left the office.
Too bad he can't get away from cheating at lands.
But we think I think we I think that I think that when the consequences are literally
being escorted out of the building,
I don't I don't really think that's happened at one of our lands, to be honest.
Give us time. It's very possible. I would do it. No, no, no, no, no, no. You know I do it. I don't mean that.
Oh, you mean cheating. Yeah. If we if we catch you,
you will never set foot at a Whaleland again.
Could we could we have it in the thing that it's like name and shame?
I would just do it. I don't care. Who cares? I mean, we'll have like we'll have what we'll have filming notices as part of
Whaleland, like you will consent to your likeness, etc. Wanshow banner of shame.
Yeah, I can't rotation for all time.
No, no, because people want notoriety. No, they wouldn't get that.
Absolutely not. Linus is more experienced at this. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But they would absolutely be shamed in person.
Oh, yeah. And it'd be awful. Oh, yeah. Cause like I don't like you.
Yeah, like it's that simple, man. Yeah. Not cool. Yeah. Not cool.
Yeah. This is a friendly event. We're all we're all friends here.
You don't do that. There's just there's so many examples of streamers getting caught cheating.
There's so many examples of people getting caught cheating at major tournaments
by having cheats like built into the tiny amount of memory on their mouse or whatever else, like just all these different ways.
It's it's it's rough out there. So if there was a thing that offered at least a solid amount of reprieve,
like I'm not I'm not expecting literally anything to solve it.
At all. But if there's something that added a good amount of reprieve, I would I would go for it.
Last thing here is that
Xbox President Sarah Bond also spoke about working closely with the Windows team
to ensure that Windows is the number one platform for gaming and not locked to a single.
Store. I think we've talked a little bit about this when we spoke about the
the Xbox and ROG ally collaboration products, but it's very clear the direction
that Microsoft wants to go with, you know, Xbox is any screen in your home,
be it Windows or running Xbox operating system or running Tizen OS or whatever
the case may be. That's their vision.
This is cool. And ASUS RTX 5090 back to front card connector seems to be able to do up to
nineteen hundred watts without burning up.
Tony, you ASUS ASUS China's GM showcased exactly what you can do with a different
peculiar power connector like the GC HPWR connector on the ROG Astral 5090BTF.
So you can actually if you want to show your mouse on the the power connector there.
This new BTF card design has a detachable GC HPWR allowing you to choose between it
and a standard 12 volt high power connector or 12 volt two by six.
I think is what we meant to put in the script. That's really cool.
It allows you to use the card with a BTF motherboard if you have one, but also
retain your resale value for the person who likely won't have a BTF motherboard
who you want to like sell it to when you're ready to upgrade. The GC HPWR connector was designed to handle a thousand watts,
but you used a chroma load tester with the connector at a constant 670 watts
plenty to power a standard RTX 5090 with it staying between 30 and 35 degrees Celsius.
He pushed it to 1300 watts, which saw it increase to 38 degrees Celsius.
Still very comfortable. And as an extreme, the chroma was turned up to 1900 watts with the connector
staying around 41 degrees Celsius, which is not bad.
Not bad at all. Here we go. Here come the amps.
Bring on the amps.
Oh, I forgot his name, but I met him.
1900 watts.
Gorgeous. Great work. BTF just needs to be a thing.
Discussion question is cool, but I wouldn't want that much power running through my motherboard, which is fair enough.
I mean, it's DC. So like the level like I don't design PCBs for a living,
but my understanding is that that would be less likely to cause interference
than AC, obviously.
But just running that kind of power through your motherboard.
If you have enough.
If you have enough isolation between your power plane and your data planes or it would depend kind of where it's coming
from, where it's going to, would that be the end of the world?
Maybe not. I don't know nothing about it. Cato, I said usually fine.
I wonder if they just had a hole and you could just what we really need cable through what we really need to do is just like,
I can't believe that we've gone through so many iterations of updating the standard
to like needing new connectors and basically needing to replace this stuff.
And we haven't increased the voltage. Titan said it's fine, but it might get toasty.
Yeah, is not fine. Well, it can be fine.
I like toast.
Finally, Xbox app, merging all game launchers. Question mark. Recently, users in the insiders
update program for Windows saw an update to the Xbox app.
This update included combining other store fronts, Battle.net, Game Pass, Steam,
into the same launcher in an attempt to improve the user experience. Yes, the proliferation of standards.
Users will also be able to see the different launcher options in the Xbox app so they know if they are launching a game
from Steam or another platform. Steam is the first and only store front they have right now,
but Microsoft confirms this is just the beginning, hoping to add many launchers
to the app, though no promise that you won't need to install those
dedicated launchers still for the game to open. Yeah, you definitely will.
Discussion question. Do you prefer one store that tries to combine launchers or several launchers
that are consistent with themselves and are clearer about where you are?
I just want everything to run on Steam. If you
if it didn't require the launchers, you could have already done it through Steam and you've been able to do it that way through Steam.
I don't want to say forever because that's not true, but for a very long time.
Yeah. And like I like when I buy a game on Steam and it's like an origin game,
but I open the game and it just like shows a quick origin thing and then it like
goes away and then Steam is just there and the game is there and then I close it
and it's like origin something. I don't know why I forget it and I go back to big picture.
Is it even still called the origin? I don't know. Who cares? Me. I don't need to know.
Yeah. Cool.
Linus, aren't we against monopolies? Asks M9 and G27.
I love Steam, but we are against monopolies, but Valve is not a monopoly.
Yeah, not at all, actually. Valve has real competition.
There's clearly the best one. Yes.
Good luck, Tim Sweeney. To the Sweeney copter.
Epic games.
Oh, my goodness. OK, yeah, yeah.
How's fresh is done? This one is now be nice to Tim Sweeney, says John Mesh.
I think he'll be all right. I don't think Tim Sweeney cares what I think.
No, are we done all who got mad when he said something wrong at one point?
Tim Sweeney, that was him. No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, OK, yes.
Well, the PlayStation, that was him, though. Yeah. So he cares.
Yeah, I was just I was being nice. Just clarifying.
I was just being nice. I was I was I was being nice.
OK, I'm I'm nice. What? Yeah, he's a juggler.
Of course, I'm nice.
Everybody likes me.
Or they're wrong. Yeah.
All right, hit me up, Dan. Is it time for After Dark?
I think by the way, if you didn't migrate from origin to EAP, you lose stuff.
It's probably fine. Lose what? Yeah. Lose my copy of Battlefield 2.
I told the story on Wancho about how I used to share my origin account.
Yes. With the Russian hacker guy. Well, that's sweet of you.
I'm going to download the EAP right now and I'm going to log into it to see if I
even still have an account. There you go. Threat Lockered.
So I used to yeah, some definitely Russian dude
used to he would steal my origin account and play games.
But I like didn't really care because I very rarely used it.
Oh, I can't install it because I'm getting in there right now. I'm getting in there right now.
I can't install the thing. Give me two seconds.
Please request admin. I was already logging in.
Did you press a button? Request admin. You mean login as administrator?
No, I don't I don't even know what it is.
It's under request. I can't as fast as I can.
It's a good thing. It's a good thing that Threat Locker is installed on my work machine.
That is a good thing. It's not installed on all your work machines anymore.
You shouldn't tell the people that.
Now I'm an attack. Well, no, it is technically it is now.
Look what you've done is installed. And I'm not I'm not actually pulling that back. It is installed.
OK. So much for being C-suite Linus.
I mean, C-sweets can be hacked. If anything, they're the best targets get to do some of that whaling.
Yeah. But yeah, he would take my account and I wouldn't care.
And then many months later, I would suddenly care to play something.
And I still he had the password. I had the secret question.
So instead of resetting the password, I would just log you were able to log in
with the secret question somehow or something. I don't remember exactly what.
So I would get in and play my game for a while. And he would he would leave me alone for like a while.
And then I guess he just checked like a month later or something.
And then he would take it back and keep playing. And I just I thought it was funny.
So I just never fixed the problem. I don't remember all the details, but it's something like that.
And I remember you telling me about this. This is back in like the Langley house days.
Yeah, it's a long time ago. And he added games to the account.
So there's like football manager and like all this other.
I was like, what are you doing? Like, why would you do that on my account?
But then I just still never cared. I think eventually I was trying to play something and he kept booting me out over
and over again, so I was like, all right, we're done now. And I officially finally fixed it.
But it started installing. Oh, you can now run this application run now.
All right, let's see. It was fun for a while. See if we can do this.
Maybe he has your credit credentials.
It's just being kind online. That's a that's a sick.
That's a good reference.
Anyway, we can move on to our next thing for now. And we don't have one.
Yeah, just merge messages. It's after dark. Let's go. Yeah, that's what I meant.
That's what I meant. Should we do super dark mode because of the glow?
Sure. Oh, no, we'll see anything.
We see it for a second. We can see it for a second. OK, give me one second.
Physical button. I can do it. No, no, Dan, Dan's got the control.
But is he? No, he's that he's producer. Dan, yeah, but how dare you disrespect him like that?
It's not going. Oh, these. Jesus, you're needy.
Yeah. Do you know for the audience?
Oh, but now light. That one.
It's not going to have any glow left by the time we actually get it. Yeah.
Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file.
It's so fun. But where is he going? I can't install the app.
Oh, he's cooking. Let him cook.
Oh, launch the app. Well, it says it's already installed now.
It seems like I don't think I can launch it. Seems like you seem like a me problem sometimes.
Got him. Oh, hold on.
Oh, no, no, no, she's working. She's working. She's cooking.
There we go.
OK, keep me signed in. OK, you just know that.
My what? My username? Yeah. Yeah, well, I would not know my username.
It's just my email. Oh, OK, fair enough.
I don't know my my username for for origin,
but I guess it's just my email is probably fine.
Yeah, it's too late. Yeah, it's too late. We can't see our glowing table anymore because it's not charged anymore.
Also, I don't think it's dark enough. Maybe the purple light is the problem.
Yeah, the purple is the problem. Oh, but they can't see.
Yeah, no, I can see it glowing, but they definitely can't see that. We could turn the lights back on.
They can kind of see it. This has gotten awkward at this point.
They can see me. I mean, yeah, here, why am I visible?
Not you. Maybe you're whiter than me.
Oh, you have a white screen on your computer. So if we goodbye.
Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. OK, OK, there you go.
OK, they can see it now. Nice. Our partner, D brand, who, by the way,
also makes the glow in the dark skin for my phone and also not to the dark skin.
Yeah, this is our glow circuit skin and it's all over the table.
OK, thank you. It's probably that was wonderful.
Well, that was worth. Yeah, it was that I well debatable, but sure.
Yeah, I know it was.
Well, you think they didn't enjoy it? All right. Well, I don't know.
The whole point of the show. Is it for them to enjoy?
Is it though? Yeah. OK, when show after dark.
Here we go. Here's the games that time to flashbang them.
Here's the games that I own. Yeah, yeah. Whoa. Oh, wow.
I have free to play games, Apex Legends and The Sims 4.
Nice. I think. Oh, no, add to your library.
So I don't have these, I guess. OK. My library includes such hits as
Battlefield 3. Nice. Battlefield 4. Nice.
Battlefield Bad Company 2. Nice. So you you stopped playing
Battlefields at the correct time. I never played Battlefield.
This is for benchmarking. Oh, that makes sense. Benchmarking Battlefield at the right time.
Yeah, Crusader No Remorse, a game that I have been meaning to play since I was like nine.
Crisis 3. Dragon Age Inquisition.
It takes two, which I actually own through Steam. Whatever this is.
Nox, dude. Nox is nox is sick. Super old school RPG.
Plants vs. Zombies. Garden Wars 2, which I only own because of a Make-A-Wish
thing where they wanted to play this. And I was like, OK, I'll bite. I'll buy this game. It was surprisingly good.
Yeah, it's actually pretty fun. Battlefront, Titanfall 2, which is because of you,
but also just through Steam and the novel too, which I actually just played
with my wife and we enjoyed it.
It was fine. Yeah. Yeah, the story was I didn't really understand.
But apparently you're not supposed to. So that's cool.
OK. Hey, Dan. Sure, I've got a few here.
Hello, Yness, Wook and Wann. Linus, have you seen the live action version yet?
And what are your thoughts? Live, what?
The live action version. Not yet. I'm so I'm like actually I'm actively stressed about seeing it.
The live action show. How to train your dragon one is the perfect movie.
It is better than any other movie, except maybe The Incredibles.
And I don't know, there's plenty of movies I love.
But How to Train Your Dragon One is a perfect movie.
Chat says it seems pretty good.
Elijah said it was pretty mid. I don't know, man. I don't know.
You loved it. OK, that's something.
But why do live action? See, that's the question. It was already perfect.
I would have rather they just did like a remaster with new textures and HDR lighting.
You know, I agree. I don't like live action remakes.
They're not even live action. I think that's the thing.
The main character is still CGI. I was seriously wronged with the release of the Warcraft movie.
That was a crime against me in particular.
And then all of Hollywood decided that they were going to release
worse versions of childhood classics by taking one of the most charming aspects
about them and making them quote unquote live action.
OK, live in in chat. Is that Reese?
Oh, is live in Reese? No, Reese's Dirt Wizard.
Hold on, live in is is Pankrat's Pankrat's.
That's right. OK. If I thought I thought it was Reese and I was going to be like, OK,
because Reese and I are pretty aligned on movie taste so far from what I've seen so far.
He agrees. The Breakfast Club is actual unmitigated disaster based.
But live in Pankrat's.
You I don't know how aligned we are on movie taste yet. I'm not saying your taste is bad.
I'm just saying that maybe I just don't know yet.
I don't know yet. Make sure that you're agreeing with the narcissist or you might lose your job.
Oh, stop. Speaking of which, for me,
movie night last Friday. Yeah. What do you guys think?
Last action hero. It was very good. I was way more surprised than I was expecting to be.
I actually wasn't surprised and I enjoyed it a lot. Yeah, I know that was that was sick.
Binky Draws says the Dungeons and Dragons movie was awesome, though. And I agree. It was very good.
Actually, it really deserves a lot more than it got. And I'm very sad that people didn't realize how good that movie was
because it might not get another one. And that would be very wasn't super, super polished.
But it was exactly what it was supposed to be. Yes, it was so self aware.
Yeah, it was great. And it was self aware very appropriately
because it was still a good story. Still a good character, despite being self aware.
And that's what I love about Last Action Hero. What was the other movie?
Exactly what it's doing. The other one you were talking about.
Dungeons and Dragons. Oh, yeah. No, that was very good.
So Last Action Hero is both an action movie and also a spoof of everything
that made especially 80s action movies kind of cringe worthy and unbearable.
So it does it does everything that they do to the nth degree,
while also straight faced being an action movie.
I love it. And I hadn't even remembered the like celebrity cameos at the end.
Everybody had Bill freaking Murray in it.
Dude, this the scene when Maria Shriver
like gives Arnold Schwarzenegger like Arnold Schwarzenegger,
the actor playing himself instead of Arnold Schwarzenegger playing the like the action hero guy.
She like gives him crap about talking about it, promoting his stupid restaurants on the red carpet.
Like, oh, it's so mad. So good. It was really good.
It was fantastic. I enjoyed it a lot.
Anywho. More. Yeah. So I will see how to train your dragon.
But I'll probably I don't think I'm going to bother in the theater.
I think I'll wait and I'll watch it in my theater at home. Watch on your phone just to give it an extra little.
No, it's like a guarantee you're making it lose.
Yeah, I did that with Gladiator 2. I watched it on a plane on purpose.
I was like, I'm not going to disrespect it. I'm not going to like this. And then I like hate watch to the whole thing
and got to the end was just mad. Yeah, I watched that at home and was incredibly upset.
I loved Gladiator 1 so much. And it was an incredible disaster.
Bimmy Zuntown says, load it on an iPod video and watch it there.
Yeah, Kindle. Yikes.
OK. Hey, LLD, would you consider doing other transparent products
such as a transparent backpack for security checks? And how long did it take to prototype the transparent driver?
Three years. So we're interested in other transparent products,
but I can pretty much promise you that we're not making Pris's raincoat from Blade Runner as in backpack form.
I just I can't think of a material that would be clear enough to really see
through, but also robust enough for us to be confident making a backpack with it.
So Triton. Well, it's it's rigid, though.
Would you really want a rigid backpack? Plenty of them.
That you put cats in them. They're like, they're all doves.
They are a thing. Hmm.
Isn't isn't that like isn't that feel raving backpack fairly rigid?
And that was like incredibly popular for many years.
Oh, hi, Josh says you literally ride a motorcycle. OK, all right, I ride a ride, a ride, a ride, a ride.
OK, so I guess you can strap a luggage to your back if you really want to.
But I I. We have so much work to do, you know,
continuing to innovate in like soft goods backpacks that I don't know that I'm ready to just completely change gears
and go into an entirely new product category.
So no promises, no promises for now.
Oh, Fray says, do you know why Last Action Hero was a flop?
It opened the same week as Jurassic Park.
Oh, my God, that makes so much more sense,
because we were talking about this after it did make money.
But barely barely. And when you look like nobody remembers it.
Yeah, it was an 80 million dollar budget for a movie that did like what was it?
Like a hundred fifty mill total. And Jurassic Park was like a groundbreaking.
Yeah, from special effects and artistry and just so good.
Apparently, the market was also just a total disaster as well.
Pankrat said, it's just like Titanfall 2 in that. Oh, man. Oh, no.
Don't go through that. It's like that's funny.
Oh, no. Oh, no.
Hey, I played it. I bought it. I played it. Titanfall 2 was great.
The single player is actually outstanding. A single player shooter I've played since I was a wee child.
My biggest complaint is that you don't get to enjoy the super amazing cool fun
gimmicks for long enough. But that's one of the reasons why it's so good.
Leave them wanting more. Yeah, if all of it's perfect.
Yeah, it'll always be perfect.
How is your home assistant integrations going? Would love to know what works well and what doesn't.
What's that one automation that you can't live without?
Not going to lie, Jake and I were brainstorming
a way to make fixing my house into content today.
And we came up with a list of all the stuff about my smart house that's just kind of stupid and doesn't work or was poorly
designed or implemented in the first place, or we just never really finished
because we got the video done, got it to like minimum viable product, works as a
demo point and then just left it there. So I think it's actually going to be a series.
Video one will be us going through and going, oh, yeah, that.
What's what's wrong with current state? And then we're going to we're going to go like full automotive channel style.
And we're just going to have a piece of cardboard that we're going to write all the problems on and then over the series of a bunch of videos going forward,
we're going to cross them out. Cool. I like that. Yeah, that sounds cool. That's a great idea.
We stopped doing series. And like multi part content.
Oh, this is interesting. More peabally peabally peaball says fun fact.
The animated Anastasia movie did worse because Disney
re-released the Little Mermaid in theaters at the same time. I wouldn't put it I wouldn't put it above Disney to pull a move like that.
I don't know if that's true. That's allegedly, but I wouldn't put that past Disney.
My lady ruined her own proposal.
Should I redo it? If so, should I choose a new location?
If it's ruined, you should redo it. As someone whose proposal was ruined, not by the lady, but by myself,
I can tell you from experience that you will never hear the end of it.
You might not hear about it often, and it might be in good humor.
You know, mostly.
But she will remember it for better or for worse.
In sickness and in health till death do you part.
So yeah, I'd probably redo it. Fire you, fire you.
Cheers, guys. Loved the video on MBX mark two for your home systems.
How often do you find both change cases as part of an upgrade?
New builds versus reusing or favorite sentimental cases?
Sorry, this is a little self. This is a little hard to parse.
How often do you change your case? You upgrade versus using a favorite or sentimental case?
My situation is not really fair for this.
I have kept the case.
Yeah, I've advised a lot of other people to keep their cases
and in builds that I've kind of like worked on.
I've kept the case. For me, it's like not really fair because
of our deal that seems to come with cases.
He gets new computers in perpetuity, I guess.
Yeah, it's doesn't say how often you offered it.
I could I could I could do nothing. No, there is there is part of the clause.
Is there how often do I have to do it? It's not a timing thing, but it's a keeping it in pace with yours.
Really? Yeah, it's not supposed to be the same.
You were just that narcissistic back then.
But it's supposed to be like, you know, reasonably within range.
That makes sense. I don't remember the exact wording, but yeah, something.
What do you have now? 40, 40, 40, 80.
Oh, you're good then. I'm not complaining. I think you have a better computer than me right now then.
Maybe I'm not complaining. I have a 7900 XTX, probably about on par.
Pretty darn close. Pretty similar. Yeah, yours is better in ray tracing, which I don't think you use anyway.
Cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not complaining.
As for me, I have changed my case.
Very few times. I had an Antec Land Boy.
That was my first custom computer case with the smart blue 350 watt power supply.
So that's what I had. I upgraded that to an Antec P 160.
I got the NCI X didn't carry the P 160 W, but they did carry the windowed side
panel replacement, so I had an extra non windowed side panel.
It was a really cool windowed side panel. Instead of being flat, it had these like, I don't know, these like ovals in it.
Here we go.
I don't know. They were just they were kind of cool. They were like stylish things and and like the locks for the side panel were
indented into it, so you couldn't just like put a window on the regular case.
You had to you had to get the you had to get the stock window.
It looked really sick. So I had one of these.
I actually I swapped out the LED color in the front.
So mine, instead of having blue LEDs, lighting up these little front mirrored
bits, I swapped them out for green. I had a cool AMD inside UV reactive logo in the bottom.
I rattle can sprayed the inside black.
What other modifications? I had a I had a fan controller in the front.
I think that's I think that's most of it. I had I had a cool UV green transparent acrylic cover for my power supply.
And then I had UV green sleeving for my power supply back when I had this build.
Anyway, from there, from there, I think I went to the I think I went straight to the TJ07.
Yvonne bought that for me. That's that's how you know she's a keeper.
She gets you like a sick computer case. And then I still have that.
I kind of still want to do a build in it one of these days and doing that unboxing
of the murder box made me want to do it. What the heck?
Yeah, it was a thing. I was walking through the lab and was like.
Three pallets of murder boxes. I mean, MBX two or whatever, whatever they ended up calling them.
The wicked case. They're the TJ07, but refined, perfected, you might say.
And then from my TJ07, I went to my Rackmount case, which I have
like for it for like tech influencer or whatever, I have kept for an awfully long
time without making anything other than like slight quality of life modifications to.
I I love it. It's perfect. My computer sits in my rack. I never look at it or think about it other than when it's broken.
And maybe that's I don't know. Maybe that's kind of lame.
I do want to do a really nice build for the theater room.
You need some for the theater room. And I wanted to be like dead, quiet.
Like yeah, silent. Yes. Maybe even silent and deadly.
Oh, yes. Hmm.
One thing I kind of button is a power button. The other button ejects a knife.
I mean, why? She killed one person with a knife.
If it ejected a grenade, that was sort of true. OK.
The knife has mustard gas in the handle.
Oh, I like the floor is made of bleach
and the knife has ammonia in it. OK. All right. So why don't we move on to our next merge message?
Good. It's easy to get you guys to move on. Hey, guys, I'm an injection molding technician and I thoroughly enjoy all of the
BTS molding content. How much did the molder do and how much of your team?
How much did you learn personally? I learned basically what was in Kyle's video that we had to open the gate and do
more simulation to make sure that it flows through the mold like this instead of
going around things and then meeting and making those ugly, those ugly lines.
I learned about the different properties of plastics and, you know,
some cool faster and some cool longer when they're flowing through the mold or
stick to the mold or whatever else. That's that's about it.
I didn't do any simulations or anything. As for what our team has learned,
I will say that some of it was handled by the molder, but it was definitely a collaborative process.
I pretty much promise you that those simulations that we showed in the video
were ones that our team was running. We've learned a lot about plastic injection molding over the last few years.
Here goes a new impulse buy. Did you need to add any anti yellowing countermeasures or is that not an issue
for this type of plastic? I'm not aware of that being an issue for Triton.
I don't think it's a problem for Triton. Looking at, especially like, okay, so a very well known brand that uses Triton.
Nalgene. Nalgene. They're water bottles, you know, water bottles.
These days, a lot of people use them inside, but for a long time they were like largely outdoor or indoor sports facility type things.
That's true. Water bottle culture has changed a lot. Dramatically changed.
I didn't even really think about that. But they did go outside a lot and Nalgene bottles never really changed color.
Nalgene are usually blue for a reason. That's an interesting point.
But who the devil is this?
Who are you number 317 anonymous with your ten dollar gift card purchase?
Go ahead, Dan, you can read it. Are you sure? Yeah, it's very mean.
Is it? Maybe. Linus, also known as Moo Moo the cow.
How do you know that? Oh, this is the thing.
That's my OG Hotmail account. Dan.
Moo Moo underscore the underscore cow at hotmail.com.
I don't have that email address anymore. Don't bother emailing it. But that was that was my original.
Like when I went to Camp Squia for Bible Camp, you know,
that was the email that I gave to my fellow attendees so they could stay in touch.
Is you said anonymous 13 317 is the order number.
Oh, not the name that they put in. No, no, no.
Sorry, carry on.
Damn, do you find the existence or lack of your beard to have any effect on your
viewership and do you still plan do you still have plans taking your name out of
the branding of your company? I don't know. We're kind of I think we're kind of experimenting right now.
Um, I am, see, I'm actually not quite done painting my bike.
I have one maybe I put one coat of clear coat on the gas tank.
And then I made the mistake. OK, this is why Jake Tyvey drives me nuts because he was like, no, you should
sand it, you know, like, like fine sand it. And I was like, no, I'm not going to bother.
I don't care if there's a little bit of orange peel. I want this project done. He's like, no, you should do it.
And then I did the first coat of clear coat on the gas tank.
And there was like a little something like a little fluff got caught in it.
And I could have sprayed it again and maybe like like gotten that bit out.
But probably not. I probably would have scuffed the finish. So I was going to have to do another coat anyway.
So I was like, OK, well, I'll just leave it with the one coat and then I'll
I'll get the little bit out and then I'll blast the second coat and then it'll
all be consistent. I won't have the little like fluff or the little nib in it.
Anyway, as I was getting out the neighborhood, I was like, oh, I mean, it wouldn't really hurt if I am a thousand grit.
I can't really damage anything too badly. I'll give it like a kind of a once over and it looks so much better.
But now I'm thinking I've only delivered the wheels, the frame and the subframe,
none of which I think stand out that much once the bike is assembled.
It's going to be the fairing. It's going to be the tail. It's going to be the gas tank that are really going to stand out.
So I still have all those pieces. Technically, they haven't started reassembly yet.
So technically you could I could sand everything, find grit, sand everything.
Do you know when they're going to start blast it again and polish it?
Do you have like this weekend and then that's it? I don't know.
But I did thousand grit the gas tank.
And but like, I don't want to get in there with like 2000, like 5000 grit.
Like I don't I don't I don't have time for that.
Yes, I know it looks better wet sanded. Yes, yes, yes, it's worth it.
It's worth it. Anyway, so if that's the case, I'm going to have to I'm going to have to do
a fair bit more clear coating. If it was just going to be like hitting the gas tank once,
then I was just going to like put on the mask and like,
you know, breathe as little as I can and not bother. But if I'm if I'm going to be clear coating the entire rest of the bike
again, I'm probably going to have to shave the beard. So we'll see. We'll see.
Maybe I'll keep a mustache for like one week.
It'd be horrible, dude. It would be bad. It would be horrible on me.
Anyway, OK, I can't even I can't even I feel like I can't even imagine it.
Still plan to take my name out of branding of the company. Eventually, yes, that is still the goal.
Don't don't think about it, Luke. I don't want to close your mind.
I feel like I can imagine myself with one easier than I can imagine you with one.
No, it's gross. No, I don't like it.
You have to do it. Hello from Tampa returning from Saudi Arabia.
You both do it from November. No. All right.
Do it now. Look at my razors.
Hello from Tampa returning from Saudi Arabia.
Three security agents spent 30 minutes inspecting my mini ITX build from my carry on.
What are some challenges you've faced with equipment at airports?
The biggest one is the carney. It's this stupid piece of paper that
I think it's Canadian customs insist on or I can't remember.
Someone insists on us having this stupid piece of paper
that we bring to the airport and write down the serial numbers
of all the like camera filming equipment that we bring with us.
And then when we come back, we have to show them the carney
and that this is all equipment that we took with us in the first place,
that we're not importing it. But it's just a piece of paper.
There's there's no tracking.
There's no validation. And many of the agents don't even know about it.
So it's just a matter of like if you get the one that cares,
then they'll like hassle you about all the gear that you're taking over there,
even though you're clearly a professional video equipment person.
You don't you don't even have more than one of the same thing. You're obviously not an importer.
It's just a big waste of time. It means our camera ops have to show up at the airport like an hour,
sometimes an hour and a half earlier. It's just so obnoxious.
It's not an airplane, but I'm going to tell the story anyways, because it's probably been a long time.
But one time I had to, for reasons, transport my mineral oil computer
from Vancouver Island to back home.
And I didn't have a car on the island, so I had to bring it on to a bus.
So I had to hand carry on a wooden plank
my mineral computer that had like at the time
fish plants in it and stuff, but also just computer parts
and cables and all this wacky stuff. Absolute genius bus driver.
Absolutely did not want to let me on the bus because he thought it was a bomb.
And I actually I got on the bus, but I don't remember how.
I don't know if he just eventually kind of gave up and.
Let me or what? I don't remember at this point, but but yeah, I got it on the bus eventually
and I got it home, but I mean, then I had to take it on the ferry
and then all this kind of stuff and I got some looks, got some looks.
I was probably heavy as hell. It wasn't light, wasn't particularly light.
They're part of the spoiler of the story is that it didn't exactly have oil in it at that point time, or at least not a lot.
But it the oil was soaked into the wooden plank
and I was carrying a computer on a plank for like.
Plus the aquarium factor, many hours. Yeah, ridiculous. Yeah.
How would the LDL from Texas love the screwdriver
and buying one for my dad? Question, AI makes call scams harder to detect.
How can we verify who we're speaking to? Maybe encryption keys or back to the old safe words, safe words.
Safe words and just don't. That's the one.
Don't do anything when people call you.
Yeah, you can always call people back. Look up their number and call them back.
Don't forget, they could be sim jacked. So even calling them back.
Oh, no, don't call their number back. Just don't like if your bank calls you or something like that.
Oh, I was talking like a like a like a loved one because you couldn't have a safe word with your bank.
I think they're talking about. Yeah, like if, you know,
you're your wife calls you saying she's held ransom or whatever.
Rich enough. I'm sure you could call who. I'm sure for the the company bank account,
you could have a safe word, to be honest.
I don't know. You'd be surprised how inflexible
like policy is at places like we're we're again,
this comes down to that whole that whole age old debate is Linus Media Group,
a big company in the in the in the scheme of like would banks
just like have a special policy for us.
No, it's funny because there are some that would little tiny credit unions,
but like not not maybe, but that's our issue is we're big enough
that there's no way we could engage reasonably with a bank like that
simply because they don't they wouldn't deal in enough currency for us.
We deal in GBP, Euro, CAD, USD, at least.
And I'm there's probably some. Oh, yeah. No, we definitely have.
Yeah. An Australian dollar. Yeah. We have Chinese Yuan as well.
Swedish Krona, we deal in all these different currencies.
So no idea. We absolutely have to deal with like like a mega mega bank
just because of all the different income streams that are coming from like like Amazon, affiliate, Australia or whatever.
Right. I don't even know if that's a thing, but that's an example of the kind of reason that we might have
some international currency coming in. And but we are not big enough for any organization like that
to give two shits and a limp about us. So.
Two separate trips or like one. So we're in this for three people.
So we're just, yeah, I don't know. We're in the like we're in like a weird middle ground and I'm not I'm not complaining.
I'm just saying that there have been times that it's been challenging.
Like I remember when I wasn't able to borrow
like literally a few months of of of revenue
for like for some reason for the business just because
they like didn't recognize what kind of business we were. It didn't matter.
It didn't matter that I'd be able to pay it back in a trivial amount of time.
Didn't matter. We just couldn't.
Because we're nobody. Yep. All right. Hit me.
All right. Let's see. Yeah. Hi, LLD about to receive a utility patent.
Any advice for getting a device from prototype to finished product?
Any pitfalls to avoid? Clear driver will go great with my OG black shaft driver.
Thanks. Any advice for getting it to finished product?
Be patient. Time of Smith. Do it right.
Understand that there may be compromises to be made along the way.
For instance, there is one compromise on this.
There's almost no way that you guys would be able to see it.
But there's like around the
the bits of the the ratchet mechanism, like the metal
like spine that comes out of the housing here. There's kind of like like a thin part of the wall.
It goes all the way around. So it doesn't really like it doesn't matter, you know.
But I know it's there. It wasn't what we were trying to do. We wanted it to to sit cleaner to the.
I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I legitimately can't.
It's better if no one else can find it. But the point is there will be little compromises.
Be ready for that. But also stick to your guns when it comes to quality.
Never compromise on on the long lastingness of the product.
I don't know. As for pitfalls to avoid.
Oh, man.
You know, carefully QC what you get back from the factory.
Make sure it's actually what you asked them for. I still remember the first time we got a sample driver
from the Chinese manufacturer that we switched to
from the Taiwanese ratchet manufacturer. And it was like, OK, but not quite right.
And it turned out that they had somehow never gotten our
drawings and had just cloned it based on the sample product we sent instead of creating it from the drawings.
And it was close enough that we couldn't tell.
Wild that that was a default action. They didn't go, oh, you don't have drawings or anything.
They were just like, yeah, we got it. We knew it was like we knew it was wrong,
but we couldn't tell why it was that close. Wow. That's wild.
Hi, the cat distribution system sent a six month old cat my way.
She adapted well to the home and to me, but is spicy with my resident old cats.
Linus, any tips from your shed to kitten rescue into intro better?
No, I mean, they'll be the first thing anyone ever says to me is
try Felaway. I found it really expensive and doesn't especially do anything.
It's like a cat pheromone that you just put in your head.
That you just put into a wall plug like those plug-in air fresheners.
I just have not observed any difference in my cat's behavior
across like half a dozen different cats now. And I just, I don't believe in it.
I'm sure someone somewhere has had success with it, but I just haven't.
As for how things have gone with our cats,
our resident older lady cat was extremely aggressive with the new ones.
And she now lives with my aunt. That doesn't mean we don't love her anymore
and it doesn't mean that we don't go to see her. But she is much happier as a single cat household kitty.
And that was what was best for her. And honestly, my aunt is also thriving with Dash living with her.
I've told my aunt that she's a crazy cat lady in training for like 20 years now.
And it was just a matter of convincing my uncle. But Dash is just the coolest cat.
And within about three days, he was telling my aunt, they know they're not getting this cat back, right?
So she's in an extremely loving home. And one of the things my aunt was concerned about
is that they're getting on in years. And so we made it very clear to her that if anything were to happen,
Dash will come back to us and we'll just figure out how to integrate them better.
Hello. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Go for it.
I have a message from Sir Conrad. Merch message anonymous button is fixed.
It was an issue on the US site due to an app that we don't use anyways.
So he just installed the app
and the full point off button is on the global site now.
Yes, because the one who called you Mr. Moomoo, something or other. What's his name again? Con Chad.
Instead of Conrad. Oh, OK. That's good. You got to dig for that.
He's a Chad. I thought you said calm.
Calm Chad. I was like, what was going on?
Yeah. All right. Hello, Newcombe, Dynas and Lan.
Linus with your motorcycle being done soon.
I ride a cruiser style Yamaha and regularly do iron butt rides every year.
What's the longest ride you've done on your bike?
Iron but not a particularly long ride,
but I don't ride a particularly comfortable bike. I runes came.
I went straight down to Seattle from Vancouver, and that was the longest no stops trip that I've taken on my motorbike.
I'm not like an avid rider. I don't like go riding for the weekend or anything like that.
Don't really have time. I'd love to armor trimming on a bicycle.
It's a 2003 SV 650S.
Jokes for six people. OK, let's see. Morning, LLD.
I work in a secure office, which means no Wi-Fi or Bluetooth devices.
I would still like a device to track and remind me of meetings.
Do you have any ideas? I've been looking at electronic organizers from the 90s.
Yeah, those track and remind me of meetings.
Would they accept a device that has the Wi-Fi Bluetooth chipset taken out of it?
Yeah, it's a good question.
Seems like a reasonable thing to do. If they had a person who was capable of making sure that they were removed properly.
That is probably the biggest problem. So you'd need something that by default doesn't have that,
despite the ability to add that to things. Yeah.
This is probably a secure office, not like a military spec.
You are not allowed to have things on you and we will scan you and search you.
I mean, I know there's like, there's like digital watches that have no smart capabilities
that have like multiple alarms.
OK, I didn't know the multiple alarms part. That's why I didn't actually say it yet.
Yeah.
Yeah, virtual said, I said, I'm not allowed to have things on you.
I said, that's not surprising. We are told that even wireless keyboards are security risks.
Some offices are crazy. I mean, look, that's what we should do on top of Threat Locker is ban all wireless devices.
Nice. OK, Fogelbjarr says likely not if this is a SIF.
Then the device has to be on approved lists from the government.
Interesting. Yeah, no, I don't know.
Secure information facility is on a SIF. They have vintage palm pilot.
I think a lot of those older pocket PCs and stuff, though, they had Wi-Fi.
You'd have to go quite old. Yeah, my knees.
Like you think I think you could get an Apple Newton. No, I think even that. Oh, no, yeah, it doesn't have Wi-Fi.
It doesn't have Wi-Fi. It would be so cool if you rocked up with an Apple Newton.
That would be sick. Apple Newton. That's my official recommendation. Let's go. I second that.
OK. Hi, dopamine serotonin and oxytocin.
You have mentioned having lots of games in your Steam libraries,
which you have not had a chance to play. What were some of the hidden gems once you played them?
I actually did a whole video. Really?
Yep. And then I never actually in the video, I was like, here I am,
trying every unplayed game in my Steam backlog. I did this four years ago.
It was really fun. And I found a bunch of games that I was like, oh, I'm going to come back and play this one.
Never did. Oh, you can favorite things in Steam.
I know, I know. I need to go back and rewatch this video now so that I know which ones I wanted to play.
Look, I had a shared account just like that on Steam.
Only I was the one who ended up with the account in the end. So did he.
Yeah. It was a blast seeing the new games and giving them a try for free.
Nice. Honestly, it was surprisingly like fun.
And the last one I've got for you tonight is Luke.
Have you started any new Final Fantasy games yet?
No, but I'm going to play Tactics.
Oh, are you going?
Which one are you going to play? Isn't there?
Well, no, the one coming to Steam. So they're OK. OK, that was not the only version.
So I would say that playing the Pixel remaster for Final Fantasy 6 was actually a mistake.
I wouldn't say you should like replay it at this point, because I'm whatever replay it.
I'm not playing it again. I know, I wouldn't say you should replay it.
But I if I were to go back and tell you, hey, you've got to play this game again.
I would have you play the original SNES version. Oh, I see.
Oh, I see. So for Tactics, obviously, I haven't played the new one yet.
But there are actually now, I would say, three valid choices for playing Final Fantasy Tactics.
One would be, obviously, the new one that's coming to Steam.
Another would be Final Fantasy Tactics for PlayStation One, the original release.
And the other would be Final Fantasy Tactics, War of the Lions.
Is this a remaster or is this a different game?
So it was kind of, it was kind of a re-release slash update.
Android. Well, no, it's for the PSP.
Android iOS, it says. Since when is that for what?
I don't know, it's just both of them. Don't worry about that.
It's for the PSP. It was released in 1997.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. Don't worry about that.
It's for the PSP. It was released in 1997 and is considered by many to be kind of the, I don't know, the
definitive version of Final Fantasy Tactics.
However, as someone who never actually played War of the Lions, I can't tell you that I
think any of the things they added to it would improve anything.
Oh, well, look at that. You can get War of the Lions for iOS and Android.
Okay, that's cool. But I wouldn't say that anything that I can see that they added to it would significantly
improve the game for me. It has a less janky translation, but in my opinion.
I enjoy that. I enjoy the jankier translation.
In my opinion, the original janky translation, aside from a couple cases where, meaning this
can be obscured a little bit, is part of its charm.
And don't sell me a dog drugstore cowboy.
And some of the new characters just felt like... What?
No one's going to understand that reference, but yeah. Just felt like kind of cringy fan service.
So you could... There's a couple new classes, but they seem pretty OP.
I'm googling it. No one cares.
Okay, look, play whatever version of the game you want.
I don't really like playing games on my phone. No, you can...
No, I'm just thinking... You can emulate it. Yeah.
So you've got three valid options to play.
And I'm afraid to recommend Ivalis Chronicles that the re-release...
Don't sell me a dog. Don't sell me a dog drugstore cowboy with a huge crest in the middle for some reason.
This isn't the exact one, but I saw this on a hat in Taiwan my first time there, second
time there. And I bought it for Emma. I still love that hat.
That's good. I like bad translation. So here's something.
And yeah, Sydney Broket is saying this in chat. The remake is removing a bunch of the fan service-y things in World of the Lions.
So apparently the source code was lost.
Is that right, you guys? So they ended up having... It's very much like a fan service game, but was initiated by someone from the original
team replaying it again and being like, no, this is the definitive version and wanting
to bring it to modern platforms instead of War of the Lions, which apparently it'll include
a classic version. Yeah, apparently. Oh, okay.
No, I thought I was reading that they lost at least some of the source.
Apparently Ivelas Chronicles will include two different versions of the game, enhanced and classic.
So which would you play? Enhanced or classic? So I need to really get through the details of the changes.
If it's just graphics, honestly, I don't care.
There was a mode where you could kind of see the old graphics on the Pixel Remaster and
I was like... Sure, you can take either.
It's fine. So the classic version of the rerelease will have the War of the Lions translation, though.
So if you want the original PlayStation kind of janky translation, you'll have to emulate
PlayStation 1, which can be done very easily these days.
You have time to decide.
Maybe I'll buy the Steam one and then emulate it. Yeah, that's a valid choice because I never bought this back in the day.
I didn't have any Final Fantasy 8.
The only game I had was Final Fantasy 8. Here's a fun piracy conversation.
I own a Final Fantasy Tactics disc for PlayStation 1.
If I lent you my disc and I didn't play the game while you were playing it, that's valid?
I'd be okay with that. You'd be okay emulating it? Yeah.
Well, I won't. Because technically I have an old PlayStation.
They... Oh, this is interesting. People are like valid.
Chat says valid. I think it's fine. Chat says valid.
I think it's fine. Well, I'm not giving it to you because I actually love that they're remastering the original
game and they should get money for it. Yeah, I'm cool with that. So I'm not going to lend you the game.
I'm fine with that. But yeah, it's one of the handful of retro games that I own.
I think I bought it from David when he did his liquidation sale. It was like, oh, you have Final Fantasy Tactics.
I played this game like three times and I've never owned a copy. I feel bad.
I would either go to Willow and buy my own old school copy or I think it is also fair,
in my opinion, to buy the new one and then just emulate the old one.
I think that's fine. Okay. That is...
My brain is okay with that. You know what my brain is okay with?
Telling you guys, hey, we'll see you again next week.
Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye!