{"video_id":"fp_wAhdvAKGsf","title":"What are your thoughts on AI?","channel":"FP Exclusives","show":"FP Exclusives","published_at":"2023-09-01T22:53:00.017Z","duration_s":6217,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":0.72,"text":"Is it working?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.6,"end_s":9.32,"text":"I am here with Jake Bell. And what do you do for the company here?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":9.44,"end_s":13.52,"text":"I'm the ShortCircuit producer, assistant director, host.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":13.96,"end_s":18.16,"text":"I'm all over the place. He's, he's a jack of all trades, master of all.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":18.32,"end_s":19.36,"text":"Jake of all trades.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":23.6,"end_s":27.0,"text":"Anyways, I'm asking everyone here about their thoughts on AI.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":27.0,"end_s":31.32,"text":"So I'll ask you first, what is your current state thoughts on the state of AI?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":31.64,"end_s":36.76,"text":"So AI doesn't exist, right? True AI, because even like chat, GPD is an LLM.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":36.8,"end_s":40.96,"text":"I'm not going to pretend I know any more than that. But the idea of AI is very exciting.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":40.96,"end_s":44.88,"text":"Even LLMs, like Siri stinks. But if Siri can give me a very wordy answer, that sounds correct.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":44.88,"end_s":49.56,"text":"I mean, I'd be more impressed than I've got web results on your phone.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":49.6,"end_s":53.52,"text":"Like I want something a bit better than that. And hopefully AI can get us there, but I think it will take a while.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":53.72,"end_s":57.64,"text":"OK, so are you, do you think you're kind of for or for AI or against AI?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":59.76,"end_s":63.52,"text":"For, I guess, as long as the limitations and government","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":64.32,"end_s":68.76,"text":"policies are in place before they're widespread, I think things can get pretty dangerous","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":68.76,"end_s":71.8,"text":"when things already exist and we're like, oh, well, let's pull it back.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":71.84,"end_s":78.08,"text":"It's like, well, now we know it exists and people like have it on their computers at home already, like it's already too late to put it back in that bottle.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":78.08,"end_s":82.6,"text":"But that won't happen. OK, so since you're for it, what's one thing you're really against","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":82.64,"end_s":90.36,"text":"in terms of the AI? Hmm, something I'm really against, probably creating images of real people.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":90.36,"end_s":94.6,"text":"As we've seen with was it QTC, the and Pokimane and some of these other","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":94.6,"end_s":99.0,"text":"streamers that had explicit photos of them generated and shared on websites,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":99.16,"end_s":104.44,"text":"stuff like that is awful. And now people think it's a lot of fun to create the AI songs of like Linus","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":104.44,"end_s":110.04,"text":"and stuff like that online, but he didn't consent to that. And no matter what, that's kind of wrong and weird to think that just","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":110.04,"end_s":113.36,"text":"because he's on the Internet, he's OK with it. That's not true.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":113.36,"end_s":117.88,"text":"And it's something that obviously there's no way to limit. But it's something I'm definitely concerned about.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":118.56,"end_s":121.64,"text":"OK, and since I'm a bad host, I got to look at my next question.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":122.48,"end_s":125.56,"text":"What's your background? Is that from Thor? Huh? Is your background the first one?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":125.56,"end_s":129.48,"text":"Oh, no, it's just a meme. It's just like all my executive bed winning wife.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":129.48,"end_s":132.08,"text":"And it's me on my iPad showing her the Lego I want.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":133.76,"end_s":136.96,"text":"It's what he's funny. Huh? It's a good movie. Like what TV is a funny guy?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":136.96,"end_s":138.92,"text":"What's that? He's the director, the guy in the.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":141.04,"end_s":144.44,"text":"I'm fake. I'm fake. All right. Oh, yeah. So there's a lot of talk.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":144.44,"end_s":149.08,"text":"Sorry, I'm sorry again. There's a lot of talks, people saying that AI would take over creative jobs.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":149.16,"end_s":154.72,"text":"Do you believe that's true? Do you like where do you stand on that as, you know, we are a creative company?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":155.08,"end_s":159.24,"text":"So yeah, AI itself is not creative, right? Like we still have to input the stuff into it to get a result.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":159.24,"end_s":162.24,"text":"So it could sometimes maybe be a tool at some point,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":162.64,"end_s":166.32,"text":"but there's no point where we're going to be like, hello, Johnny 3000.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":166.32,"end_s":169.36,"text":"You're hired. And now they create the video scripts and everything like that.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":169.36,"end_s":172.4,"text":"We'd still need a writer to be like, this is the idea and then fact check it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":172.4,"end_s":178.0,"text":"and then make sure it's actually entertaining and on brand. Like maybe someday that would be an issue, but that's so far in the future.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":178.16,"end_s":181.6,"text":"That's like my great grandkids issue, at least probably.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":181.8,"end_s":185.6,"text":"So I don't think it's a huge issue. I think, yes, it might reduce jobs and that's bad.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":185.8,"end_s":189.64,"text":"But to think that it's going to completely eliminate jobs, I think is maybe a bit of a stretch.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":189.64,"end_s":193.0,"text":"Yeah, I was telling Nicole, you know, AI can maybe edit videos,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":193.0,"end_s":197.92,"text":"but it can't do a fart reverb like I can. No way. It can't put Vine boom in at the perfect moment.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":200.36,"end_s":203.48,"text":"All right. And then next question, which I still don't know.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":203.48,"end_s":205.6,"text":"Remember, is it because I am not a good host?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":207.52,"end_s":211.6,"text":"Have you used, sorry, have you used any AIs right now?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":211.6,"end_s":214.44,"text":"Like, sorry, have you used AI in his current state?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":214.8,"end_s":219.52,"text":"I've used chat GPT to do like small summaries.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":219.76,"end_s":223.0,"text":"I'm hesitant to put my information into these LLMs because of the fact","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":223.0,"end_s":226.44,"text":"that they're not really regulated, but I've been like, oh, I'm my friend's","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":226.44,"end_s":231.4,"text":"asking me to help them with a resume and I don't want to do it. I'll be like, can you create a summary saying that I've worked these","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":231.4,"end_s":234.64,"text":"kind of jobs and make a paragraph of it and stuff, small stuff like that.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":235.28,"end_s":239.48,"text":"And I've used things like AI Dungeon, the like choosing an adventure","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":239.48,"end_s":243.2,"text":"Dungeons and Dragons type game online where it creates a story for you to play through.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":243.48,"end_s":250.68,"text":"And that's a lot of fun. But otherwise, I haven't done really any image generation or any text creation.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":250.84,"end_s":254.36,"text":"The only thing is I created an image of Kanye West at a ring door bell cam.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":254.48,"end_s":257.56,"text":"And that was that was pretty funny. That's all I've done.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":257.6,"end_s":261.08,"text":"You know, this thing called Balder Gates 3. That's also a DND game you can play.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":261.32,"end_s":264.4,"text":"Great game, good game. I haven't played it. I've been playing.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":264.44,"end_s":268.6,"text":"I'm waiting for it to go on sale. I'm poor like that. You know, I'm not produced a level.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":268.6,"end_s":273.12,"text":"Just don't privateer it. All right, wait, we got one more.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":273.8,"end_s":278.92,"text":"Oh, do you do you think as a tech slash creative company that we are, we","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":278.92,"end_s":283.2,"text":"should use AI and any levels or anything like that? Or I believe we do currently.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":283.24,"end_s":286.32,"text":"I think the business team uses it for talking points and things like that.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":286.32,"end_s":289.24,"text":"And then they just kind of clean it up.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":289.44,"end_s":292.64,"text":"And even then, I think you would consider a lot of people consider AI is","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":292.64,"end_s":295.92,"text":"something even like Otter, which is a voice recording app where it'll create","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":296.28,"end_s":300.32,"text":"transcripts for your meetings. And I believe we use that was a lot of meetings as well.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":300.48,"end_s":304.4,"text":"So we do use it quite a bit. Do I think it's a good idea that we keep doing it?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":305.0,"end_s":309.76,"text":"Maybe like maybe we can create our own LL maybe we can create our own LLM where","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":309.76,"end_s":313.76,"text":"we feed in a bunch of our own scripts and use it to create skeletons that we then","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":313.8,"end_s":317.12,"text":"flush out or we create skeletons in the LLM flushes it out.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":317.32,"end_s":322.36,"text":"So possibilities. I just think that if we ever really did start using it, it would be very,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":322.36,"end_s":326.68,"text":"very carefully as if we're going to be including things like Labs or something","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":326.68,"end_s":330.96,"text":"like that, we want to make sure that everything flows right is the actual tone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":330.96,"end_s":337.04,"text":"that we want to say it and that it is, of course, factual. So maybe someday I don't know what our level is or if we have any plans to do","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":337.04,"end_s":342.24,"text":"that, but I don't see why not. And is there anything else that we didn't mention today that you want to tell","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":342.24,"end_s":346.88,"text":"the people here? The lovely float cleaners. Gosh, I would love real AI.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":346.88,"end_s":350.56,"text":"I want a Jarvis, you know, a Jarvis that goes like, Oh, I got you fam.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":350.56,"end_s":354.84,"text":"I got this ready for you before. Like an actual personality and actual artificial intelligence that's","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":354.84,"end_s":360.84,"text":"effectively a human that'll be scary. And it means like deleting an AI is like deleting a sentient life.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":361.12,"end_s":364.2,"text":"And that's why I does not truly exist now is because like a sentient life is not","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":364.2,"end_s":371.0,"text":"something that's easy to do. But I look forward to it. It'll be cool to have those horrors beyond man's comprehension.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":371.24,"end_s":375.76,"text":"It'll be really exciting. I was really sweaty because I'm nervous talking to you, not cause it's hot","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":375.76,"end_s":381.76,"text":"outside and 30 degrees. I know. Yes, for the autograph earlier. And I thought that I know I was like shaking, like my hands still shaking.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":382.6,"end_s":383.96,"text":"All right. Well, thank you for your time, bell.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":385.64,"end_s":387.68,"text":"Don't do it. No, no, no free cloud. Get out here.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"Is it working? I am here with Jake Bell. And what do you do for the company here? I'm the ShortCircuit producer, assistant director, host. I'm all over the place. He's, he's a jack of all trades, master of all. Jake of all trades. Anyways, I'm asking everyone here about their thoughts on AI. So I'll ask you first, what is your current state thoughts on the state of AI? So AI doesn't exist, right? True AI, because even like chat, GPD is an LLM. I'm not going to pretend I know any more than that. But the idea of AI is very exciting. Even LLMs, like Siri stinks. But if Siri can give me a very wordy answer, that sounds correct. I mean, I'd be more impressed than I've got web results on your phone. Like I want something a bit better than that. And hopefully AI can get us there, but I think it will take a while. OK, so are you, do you think you're kind of for or for AI or against AI? For, I guess, as long as the limitations and government policies are in place before they're widespread, I think things can get pretty dangerous when things already exist and we're like, oh, well, let's pull it back. It's like, well, now we know it exists and people like have it on their computers at home already, like it's already too late to put it back in that bottle. But that won't happen. OK, so since you're for it, what's one thing you're really against in terms of the AI? Hmm, something I'm really against, probably creating images of real people. As we've seen with was it QTC, the and Pokimane and some of these other streamers that had explicit photos of them generated and shared on websites, stuff like that is awful. And now people think it's a lot of fun to create the AI songs of like Linus and stuff like that online, but he didn't consent to that. And no matter what, that's kind of wrong and weird to think that just because he's on the Internet, he's OK with it. That's not true. And it's something that obviously there's no way to limit. But it's something I'm definitely concerned about. OK, and since I'm a bad host, I got to look at my next question. What's your background? Is that from Thor? Huh? Is your background the first one? Oh, no, it's just a meme. It's just like all my executive bed winning wife. And it's me on my iPad showing her the Lego I want. It's what he's funny. Huh? It's a good movie. Like what TV is a funny guy? What's that? He's the director, the guy in the. I'm fake. I'm fake. All right. Oh, yeah. So there's a lot of talk. Sorry, I'm sorry again. There's a lot of talks, people saying that AI would take over creative jobs. Do you believe that's true? Do you like where do you stand on that as, you know, we are a creative company? So yeah, AI itself is not creative, right? Like we still have to input the stuff into it to get a result. So it could sometimes maybe be a tool at some point, but there's no point where we're going to be like, hello, Johnny 3000. You're hired. And now they create the video scripts and everything like that. We'd still need a writer to be like, this is the idea and then fact check it and then make sure it's actually entertaining and on brand. Like maybe someday that would be an issue, but that's so far in the future. That's like my great grandkids issue, at least probably. So I don't think it's a huge issue. I think, yes, it might reduce jobs and that's bad. But to think that it's going to completely eliminate jobs, I think is maybe a bit of a stretch. Yeah, I was telling Nicole, you know, AI can maybe edit videos, but it can't do a fart reverb like I can. No way. It can't put Vine boom in at the perfect moment. All right. And then next question, which I still don't know. Remember, is it because I am not a good host? Have you used, sorry, have you used any AIs right now? Like, sorry, have you used AI in his current state? I've used chat GPT to do like small summaries. I'm hesitant to put my information into these LLMs because of the fact that they're not really regulated, but I've been like, oh, I'm my friend's asking me to help them with a resume and I don't want to do it. I'll be like, can you create a summary saying that I've worked these kind of jobs and make a paragraph of it and stuff, small stuff like that. And I've used things like AI Dungeon, the like choosing an adventure Dungeons and Dragons type game online where it creates a story for you to play through. And that's a lot of fun. But otherwise, I haven't done really any image generation or any text creation. The only thing is I created an image of Kanye West at a ring door bell cam. And that was that was pretty funny. That's all I've done. You know, this thing called Balder Gates 3. That's also a DND game you can play. Great game, good game. I haven't played it. I've been playing. I'm waiting for it to go on sale. I'm poor like that. You know, I'm not produced a level. Just don't privateer it. All right, wait, we got one more. Oh, do you do you think as a tech slash creative company that we are, we should use AI and any levels or anything like that? Or I believe we do currently. I think the business team uses it for talking points and things like that. And then they just kind of clean it up. And even then, I think you would consider a lot of people consider AI is something even like Otter, which is a voice recording app where it'll create transcripts for your meetings. And I believe we use that was a lot of meetings as well. So we do use it quite a bit. Do I think it's a good idea that we keep doing it? Maybe like maybe we can create our own LL maybe we can create our own LLM where we feed in a bunch of our own scripts and use it to create skeletons that we then flush out or we create skeletons in the LLM flushes it out. So possibilities. I just think that if we ever really did start using it, it would be very, very carefully as if we're going to be including things like Labs or something like that, we want to make sure that everything flows right is the actual tone that we want to say it and that it is, of course, factual. So maybe someday I don't know what our level is or if we have any plans to do that, but I don't see why not. And is there anything else that we didn't mention today that you want to tell the people here? The lovely float cleaners. Gosh, I would love real AI. I want a Jarvis, you know, a Jarvis that goes like, Oh, I got you fam. I got this ready for you before. Like an actual personality and actual artificial intelligence that's effectively a human that'll be scary. And it means like deleting an AI is like deleting a sentient life. And that's why I does not truly exist now is because like a sentient life is not something that's easy to do. But I look forward to it. It'll be cool to have those horrors beyond man's comprehension. It'll be really exciting. I was really sweaty because I'm nervous talking to you, not cause it's hot outside and 30 degrees. I know. Yes, for the autograph earlier. And I thought that I know I was like shaking, like my hands still shaking. All right. Well, thank you for your time, bell. Don't do it. No, no, no free cloud. Get out here."}