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What's up, everyone?

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I hope you guys are having a wonderful, wonderful day.

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It's Friday, baby. I hope your day had some challenge in it.

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Some challenge? I hope your day had some challenge in it.

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Yeah, because it's Friday, so hopefully you had something to grind on a little bit and

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now you can satisfyingly relax over the weekend.

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Not everyone aspires to grind on a Friday.

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Some of us are more Saturday night grinders, if you know what I mean.

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Got to keep some gas in the tank. That's Mr. Light.

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Hey, it's that guy. I appreciate it. Yeah, what can I do for you?

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Yes, that thing. Oh, my goodness. Thank you, sir.

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We're never going to get him to use an LTT lanyard, dude.

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It's so nasty. Yeah, it's a little grouty. It might be time.

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I'm worried if I wash it, it'll just fall apart.

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It might. Yeah, you might be able to get a new one now because no people know.

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I don't. This guy does. I know.

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He would just be like, I have a work lanyard and I'd be like, that's very reasonable.

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Yeah, I know one person at Valve and OK, two, three, but like three, three, but like realistically,

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they reply to emails when they are really nice.

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They're really nice and really smart, and they reply to emails whenever the fuck they

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feel like it. Yeah, it sounds like that's all I have to say about that might not be super high on their

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priority for like, yeah, and if I'm going to burn some goodwill and like a favor, it's

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not going to be for you to have a lanyard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry.

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It's just fine. It'll survive. It'll keep going.

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Not the way that's going to go. It fell apart once and Jake's mom stitched it back together.

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You had Jake's mom repair your valve lanyard.

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Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I was like 2017 or something.

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I was thinking of things that I wouldn't burn goodwill on because we all have like a bank,

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a bank of goodwill, you know, and you can only ask so many favors, so it's good to be

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strategic about them and Luke getting his ratty ass valve lanyard was apparently worth

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it to him. Yeah.

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Neat. No, I don't think the Firefox terms of use change is going to be a topic tonight other

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than just to say like, hey, it's really, really poorly handled from a PR perspective,

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but it actually doesn't appear to be different than the terms of other browsers if you look

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closely. It's kind of where we're at on that.

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So we weren't really going to. But my God, the response was terrible.

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Yeah. Yeah. The initial post was bad and the response was horrible.

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Who do they think they are? Me?

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Yeah. That's my jam. Yeah.

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Yeah. Skype. Skype will talk about briefly.

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Ouch.

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You know what? My ARM's feeling a little better. I went and hit last night after we had dinner and it's in pain today, but it is in less

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pain than it would have been if I had done that another time.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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Here we go. Ibuprofen. Ibuprofen.

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Nice. Ta-da. Nice.

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You practiced that like quite a bit.

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No. I practiced it quite a bit when I was like a teenager and now I just like do it.

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Right. Got it. Linus takes drugs on stream.

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Let's go. I've taken drugs look cool. Do you think there's going to be a new junior software engineer position?

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Sorry to bother you with this.

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Never. No. There will never again be a junior software position.

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I mean, I'm sure there will be eventually. We're all about hardware.

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Oh my. But there isn't one right now, but I'm going to unfortunately use your message to shout

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out the other jobs that are up.

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Unfortunately, that's not fortune. You made a choice.

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Unfortunately for them. Oh, I see.

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Yeah. There's three positions that create a warehouse that they're currently hiring for a part-time

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photographer, a video editor, a full-time graphic designer, and a full-time supply chain

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manager. And there's five Atlas Media Group because one of these is actually two people.

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So there's two full-time test technicians that we're hiring for.

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One logistics coordinator that we're hiring for. One content writer that we're hiring for for the lab.

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This could maybe specify that.

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As a member of the Labs team, you'll break down complex hardware testing and blah, blah,

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blah. Yeah. So it's just not in the title, but anyways, that's fine.

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And then also a full-time testing coordinator. Come join us.

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We need help. That's one way of putting it.

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Yeah. What a pitch. It'll be great.

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It'll be awesome. You'll like it.

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Being needed is good. There's chips.

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There is, actually. Yeah.

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Sometimes. Sometimes the box is empty.

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Sometimes there's chips. You never know. It's like a loot box.

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You should enjoy it. It's fun. It gives a sense of pride and accomplishment whenever you get your chips.

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I don't know. I heard we're a horrible company run by a narcissist.

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You wouldn't want to join it. Yeah.

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You only have to work with a narcissist sometimes. Yeah. Was it between testing technician and testing coordinator?

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Well, I would implore you to open their job descriptions that are on the website right

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now, but essentially the test technician is supposed to run the tests and potentially

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contribute towards future test development and pushing testing methodologies forward.

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And the testing coordinator is arranging testing, making sure that we have the resources

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that we need, making sure that we're not overcommitting or undercommitting to different things, communicating

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outside and inside the department, making sure things keep moving, etc.

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How do you survive with that much weird?

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He lifts, bro. He lifts his lanyard.

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It is a lot of stuff. I need it, though. I literally use all those keys frequently.

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I don't know. Oh, you didn't give me a microphone?

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It's a passenger seat and I give you extra stuff.

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Beautiful. Water balls, tech sacks. So the next time you can just be like, oh, yeah, I have this in the trunk of my car or

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whatever. Nice. That's actually, I will probably use that.

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Sweet. Don't worry about it. It's fine.

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Just stealing all your stuff. Oh.

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I am robbing you. You know, sometimes you do tech upgrades with people and they're like, oh, no, I didn't

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steal anything. I stole from you. I took your things and I kept them.

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I'm honestly just not really paying attention to what I've ever been talking about.

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He's had enough of both of our crap over the years that he's just like, you guys are

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just stupid. I don't think you're stupid.

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We're not stupid, but we're big dumb idiots. I don't think you're stupid.

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Damn, he knows. So rude.

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He knows. Yeah. Someone's asking, where's the modded 5090 video and I don't see it on the release schedule.

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Hopefully, hopefully we do release that soon though.

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I was honestly surprised it wasn't a priority.

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Well, editing is a thing.

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No. Just, just, just live stream everything.

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I mean, be profitable.

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Dude, the CPMs are so much higher on live.

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Oh, yeah. No, I know. It's crazy.

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It's crazy. It's crazy. One of my, you know, for the Disney activity, did you do the Disney activities?

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Were you on a team? Where the hell are all of these like videos?

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Like I've been, I've been reviewing videos that are done.

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Like how does LMG make money is done?

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How is that not on the release schedule? They want, they want a fat backlog, dude.

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Oh, that makes sense. Thick backlog.

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That makes sense. Okay.

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That makes sense.

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Remaking our most hated video is going up this weekend.

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Oh, nice. Oh, sweet.

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Cool. Wicked. There it is, boys.

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Oh, they never got me to, I haven't seen my segment in that.

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That's good. Yeah. Nice.

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I one-taked it. It's good. That was one shot.

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The whole thing. It's good. You did great.

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Remaking our most hated video. It's going to be great. Do you like me throwing the bag at Elijah?

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Yes. Yeah, it was good. That's in a different video though.

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That's in the, how does LMG make money? Yeah, we've got an update for you guys.

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It's going to be, it's going to be a good one. We break down what's changed in the last four years.

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We're on a four year cadence. We did in 2016. We did in 2020.

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And then we did it in 2025, but with 2024 numbers.

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So it's like, you've got numbers four years apart. So it's kind of, it's kind of cool seeing how it changes over time as the business

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changes. Can I help you, Mr. Nick?

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I saw that some people are buying stuff.

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Yeah. People are excited about tax, tax write-off sale.

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Tax write-off sale. Tariff write-off sale.

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Let's go. When's the, when's the new potential drop date?

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Well, depends on, I want to get to detail.

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Cool. But like, some of them they say are going to have the next week, but others that are

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more impactful to us today are, let's just say staffing has not increased in the

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way they would need to.

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That's our assumption, but we'll see that.

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Yeah. Okay. So basically one way or another, if you get your order in now, it's locked.

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So. Free shipping.

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The one who is boned is us. Free shipping.

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If something goes wrong. Hey, Dan. Oh, I see.

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So that's how we're going to handle the tariff stuff is if we just, if we ship late, we just eat it.

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I mean, for now. At some point we might have to make pricing adjustments if our costs go up.

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No, but I mean, I mean for this sale. For this sale, you are locking it in.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Dan, I think our, our head thing zoom thing could be adjusted a little bit.

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I see a lot of table down here and I see a lot of extra space could be zoom it a bit.

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Did someone change something or am I drunk?

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Okay. Hold on. Let me get into my, let me get into my exact spot.

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Okay. This is my spot where I will be for the next two and a half to four hours.

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How did Wancho get so long? What if just to throw them for a loop, we did a reasonable length Wancho.

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They'd hate that. I'd be pissed.

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It's amazing how like the second you give people something, if you stop giving it to

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them, they're angry, but if you'd never given it to them in the first place, they wouldn't

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have cared or noticed. They're actually pissed that you even mentioned it, looking at chat.

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It's this flow plane chat.

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They're so unreasonable. I mean, they're great. We love you, but.

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They're generally, they're actually, unless you're talking about Firefox, they're genuinely

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pretty usually reasonable. Yeah. That looks good to me.

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Thank you, Mr. Daniel Besser. I just don't know who he is, but I know his name.

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Whomst? Whomst. Whomst B, Mr. Daniel Besser.

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Let's just explain to drug addiction.

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That's pretty good.

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All right. Should we do this thing? Like, are you ready?

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No. I think I'm ready. You're not ready?

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No. Okay. Are you bluey?

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Yeah. Greeny? A little bit.

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Yellowy? Yes. Not blacky?

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No. I can tell.

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Oh. We talked about this before the show.

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Apparently the hard are. Oh, it's trending again.

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It's trending again. Hard.

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Kind of funny. Yeah.

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Kind of funny. I didn't know this, but apparently other people at the company have noticed.

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Oh, yeah. Someone linked me to it. Basically, it's like blowing up in so it's probably it's blowing up on other platforms

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I'm assuming. Yeah. Not YouTube. Yeah.

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YouTube had its day. Yeah. No, it's on Instagram, I think.

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JacobM10 says it's always on my mind.

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Any publicity is good publicity, right? Right?

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I think with that one, it might be fine because like we made it out of it and it came out like

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pretty clearly that it was just a mistake. So like, yeah.

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PhilAge says the world's pretty grim right now. Is there any chance for a hot take that can distract us all and cause some controversy

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for a while? No.

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No, I think not.

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We've done that service too many times.

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Yeah. I don't know. I've talked about this.

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I think another big controversy with us is actually becoming less and less likely as

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we survive each one and it just like turns out to be pretty much a nothing burger every

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time. The audience is learning the pattern. Yeah.

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I think they're figuring out that like, oh my God, this again, okay, sure.

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And I think that I'm just going to have to accept at some point that there is a contingent

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of some several tens or hundreds of thousands of people that hate my guts for some reason

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or another because I said that for ad blocking is piracy essentially or that warranties are

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only as valid as the company's willingness to fulfill them hard truths and that's just

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going to be the way that it is and I think that's just going to be the way that it is forever.

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Sorry. Someone in the following chat said have a hard R discount sale 10% off anything that

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ends in ER.

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I lost the name of who said that. I keep forgetting sometimes I forget to show the name, but I apologize.

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No, don't give them attention. I apologize. Do you remember that was?

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I'm not. I'm not. You're not.

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You're messaging no one. We're not doing that.

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Actually, that'd be a lot of things commuter. It's a lot of things. It's a lot of things.

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Scribe driver, screwdriver. I found it. I found it.

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It's like most things. Is it really? Well, I think so.

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Sweater. Scribe driver, screwdriver. Anything scribe driver or screwdriver based?

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Sweater. Yeah. Okay.

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That's a lot of stuff. OG backpack would be a backpack rain cover.

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Okay. The cover, but not the backpack itself.

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Yeah. Yeah. The canceled sale.

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Yeah. That's what happens because it was canceled.

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It's skype officially shutting down in two months.

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Yeah. The four users still on that will be sad for about four seconds until they install Discord

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and then it's fine. They played the call jingle on the radio and it was very nostalgic.

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That makes sense. Okay.

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Should we do this thing? Sure. All right.

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Let's do this thing. Oh, my goodness. There's a few merge messages coming in today.

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This is what I get for standing up for five minutes. Got them.

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That's entirely your fault. Your COO took me out of the room.

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I'm deflecting. It's my fault. I'm sorry, sir.

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Sounds like your problem. Maybe Dan just needs to try harder.

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I left to go talk to Nick like. I don't think that's his title.

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Is it not? I wouldn't worry about it right now. It's okay.

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Oh. Well, he's Nick.

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Thanks, Jordan. Okay. He is definitely Nick.

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He's definitely Nick.

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Nick with the heads that get the big vest and Oxford shirt sale price showing correctly.

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What is that? No. I mean.

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It will. Don't worry about it. Okay.

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Sorry. I just got to sign into a thing real quick here.

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That is correct. Glimmer D.

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The record. Those sales are going live at the beginning of the non pre-show WAN Show.

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Okay. I'm resuming the selected. You all ready?

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Yeah. Are you good?

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What is up everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show. Such a mellow introduction.

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Well, we've got a great show lined up for you guys today and I don't want to, you know,

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scare anybody off. Welcome to the WAN Show.

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You can be my hero AMD man.

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The RX 9070 and 9070 XT announcement, I have to admit, I completely forgot to make fun

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of the silly naming scheme because these cards look genuinely exciting.

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I can't wait to talk about that. I'm also going to be talking about my recent transition to macOS Luke.

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I am not having a good time. I had a meeting in the office next to his while he was, as far as I can tell, just using

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his computer. No, I was trying to. And it was incredibly distracting because he was screaming like half the time, wait,

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that was with you. Yeah. That was with Dan.

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So Dan remembers that. That was a lot of yelling.

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What do you mean he remembers it? It was like two days ago. Yeah, I know.

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I only got about 96 hours and then it just fades. What else we got lined up today?

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Oh.

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We didn't have a huge thing before the intro, so I didn't prep anything at all.

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More companies are apparently releasing the source code for video games.

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Oh, this is so cool. Yeah. So you release source code for four command and conquer games.

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That is so cool. That was not on my estimates for what would happen this year.

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It's called a bingo card. Sure. There we go.

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What else should we talk about? Plotty hell, Luke.

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I'm looking. I'm going to just roll it.

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I'm going to you're going to lose your shot. Whatever this is, Shionic launches new advanced ability, the hand for humans and robots,

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question mark, whatever that is.

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Sure. Cool. Nice.

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Let's get right into our first topic. Okay. Do we do line of switches to macOS or should we talk about the Radeon RX9070 and 9070XT?

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Let's save the rage for later. Let's talk about AMD.

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This morning, yes, this morning, AMD announced that the 9070 and 9070XT, and yes, I've said

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those model numbers a lot of times because I'm trying to burn them into your mind.

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These are the option that you might actually be able to buy.

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Launching March 6th with what AMD called, dang it, I can't find the exact wording, but

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it was something along the lines of wide availability, which I think means that they walk endlessly

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down hallways and they get wider and wider as they go.

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They are going to be coming in at pricing that AMD claims will be 549 and 599 respectively

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and are going to use their brand new RDNA for architecture that they are claiming is

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about 40% faster per CU than RDNA 3.

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They are alleging near native quality in performance mode with their new FSR4 upscaling and both

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of these cards will have 16 gigs of RAM at their 549 and 599 pricing respectively.

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This is pretty exciting, well at least one of them is pretty exciting.

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The 9070 looks like AMD is doing that thing again where they launch a new series of cards

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and they have the one that makes sense and then they have the one that you'd have to

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be a big dumb idiot to buy. I hope they have like 50 XTs for every non-XT because...

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And then it doesn't sell at all and then AMD is like...

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What? That was our plan all along.

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Um, 9070s now 20% off discount.

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Woo! AMD, if anyone from there is watching, maybe just don't do that.

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That'd be pretty sick. I do understand the appeal, like I understand why they're doing it because it's possible

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that with the market being the way that it is and availability of GPUs being what they

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are, that 9070s will just sell out regardless and they can make some money on this one while

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the XT is sort of their more aggressive play.

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So I get that. I follow that logic. I also follow the logic that your XT, there's a lot more risk to like discounting it in

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the longer term in terms of the perception of your brand.

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If a bunch of people buy this thing for $5.99 and then it turns out that you ultimately

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have to adjust the pricing of it down the road, it's kind of like an FU to your flagship

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to your customers, whereas the 9070 can be kind of like your s*** kicker skew.

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You just like discount it without eroding the perceived value of what XT means in your

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lineup. You get to show a big discount because it's $5.49 MSRP and you can get it for $4.99, you

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know, the MSI trio card, whatever, right?

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I understand why they do it, but guys, we saw this with

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the 7900 XT and the 7900 XTX.

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The XTX got really positive reviews because at $1,000 at that time, that made a lot of

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sense and then the XT for $100 less was way less performant.

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And that's a weird thing that the flagship gives you the better bang for the buck than

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the like step down, supposed to be more value oriented card.

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And I do understand that these probably use the same die.

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Like my understanding is that with our DNA4, AMD dramatically cut down on how many dies

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they were building. They didn't even do a super high end competitor.

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I don't know what they have coming in the lower end, but they basically were like, okay,

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we need to focus this generation on the cards that we think are going to address the majority

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of gamers. Okay, so these are probably based on the same die.

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They're both using a 256 bit bus.

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They both have a similar number of CUs. Like there's no way they have two dies, one that's 64 and one that's 56.

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This is going to be, 9070 is a cut down 9070 XT.

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So I understand too that from a pricing standpoint, they essentially paid the same for this silicon,

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right? I don't care.

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You need to have product stratification that makes sense.

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And looking at these specs, the 9070 is going to be a much lesser card compared to the 9070

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XT. It is clocked like, what, 85% as high?

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That's off the top of my head. So don't, don't quote me on that, but it's, it, it drops like over 10% of the AI accelerators.

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It drops over 10% of your ray tracing accelerators and drops over 10% of your compute units.

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And it's giving you a price that is, hold on a second, calculator.

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Okay. So 549 divided by 599.

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It only drops like eight and a half percent of the price.

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This is going to be a markedly slower card.

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So AMD, please, please no, new media engine looks good.

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Very excited about that. It could possibly be like doable to stream to Twitch on this thing.

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Um, AMD is offering unlimited encodes, dreams and sessions, which, um, okay, I have, okay,

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hold on, we'll get to that. So I was talking to someone from the writing team and they were basically saying, well,

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does this really matter? Because realistically, you're going to run into a limit, like a, like a performance limitation

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before you're going to run into a session limitation.

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And what I said was, okay, you would think that, but if you're only encoding like relatively

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low bit rate, 1080p, or even like 720p, like if you're using this thing for like, um, I

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don't know, like I ran into this issue when I was setting up the cameras at that badminton

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club during COVID when I wanted to watch my son's tournaments.

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So I set up cameras on all the courts and I set up like an OBS box that would, that

00:27:22.280 --> 00:27:29.000
would stream them all simultaneously. And NVIDIA cards, even though I had, because I was encoding at relatively low resolution

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and bit rate, I had plenty, plenty of headroom in terms of performance.

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But because of the encoding session limit, I wasn't able to encode that many streams

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at once. So it is pretty cool to me that AMD basically goes, okay, yeah, like realistically, if you're

00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:53.080
encoding at 8K, 80 FPS or whatever, you'll get one, effectively your limit is one.

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But if you're encoding at a lot less, hey, you can just kind of like decide.

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I prefer this. I'm just surprised. I'm very surprised.

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Yeah. I mean, AMD doesn't have a functioning professional card lineup anymore.

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So like they're not going to chew out their own markets. So what's the point?

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So I guess, I guess that's part of it. But like, yeah, I'm into it, especially if the quality is decent.

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Like I had to do this whole stupid workaround. I had to find like a hacked driver that unlocked it on Windows.

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I think it's easier on Linux, but I was running Windows because I was deal with it.

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And it was just, it was just such a hassle.

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And so just not having to do that would be great.

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AMD is also claiming that their driver support for these new cards will be the best they've

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ever had. Have they claimed this before? Oh, yeah.

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I mean, I don't know if they've claimed it at launch before.

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Do you remember the Crimson drivers? He remembers the Crimson drivers.

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This is why I asked the question. AMD, I believe it was Crimson because they had a couple like like driver rebrands over

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the years back when they didn't have any new hardware.

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And I think it was Crimson that they like tried to get us to make a dedicated LTT video

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about. And I was like, brother, we don't, we don't cover a driver update, but tell you what.

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And then I was like, Luke, do you want to like look? I think it crashed like multiple times in the one day you were looking at it or something

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like that. I don't remember the exact details. I don't remember the exact details, but I remember it was, it was rough.

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Yeah. It was a hot steaming pile of garbage.

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But they say they've tested more hardware configurations in the lab.

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They've got AI integrated into their testing and a bug report tool directly in the driver.

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Their dedicated AI hardware looks pretty impressive based on what they've shown.

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However, the rumors of a 32 gig version of the card have been squish squashed.

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That doesn't mean that they will never do it, but it does mean that we're not going

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to be expecting it anytime immediately.

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What else we got here? Reception has been massively positive to this card.

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I mean, it's hard to be upset when AMD is promising roughly 50 70 TI performance for

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$150 less. And they are claiming wide availability.

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There it is. Okay. So that's in our notes.

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Wide availability, which just do it.

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They have to do it.

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That was the most pathetic slap that I have ever seen in my life.

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You're going to go. You're going to go. Well, you got to make a sound at least.

00:30:30.280 --> 00:30:34.440
Well, with the headphones on, I can't really do it. That was so sad. I'll go if you want.

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You have to make a sound. Oh, ow.

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That was not going. That's my punishment.

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That's my punishment for believing AMD about stock of AMD.

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It actually expected that to hurt.

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That was really. All right.

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That sounded like a real one. Good job. And, but I do, do you know why?

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Because we saw ads for this card weeks ago, AMD intended to launch this weeks ago.

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What it seems like is they put it back in the oven driver wise, right?

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But the way that the way that production out time allocation works, just because they delayed

00:31:25.560 --> 00:31:28.960
the launch because they were working on the software.

00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:33.040
That doesn't mean that they stop making wafers.

00:31:33.040 --> 00:31:36.280
That doesn't mean they stop producing cards.

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So we know that they were planning to launch this weeks ago.

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We know that retail cards have been popping up already in the lead up to this launch like

00:31:47.560 --> 00:31:59.280
a while ago, like a while ago. So I believe, and I deserved that for believing it, but I believe that AMD actually has some

00:31:59.280 --> 00:32:05.320
cards out there for a change. And I am cautiously excited.

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I don't believe that because I should.

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I believe that because I really, really, really, really, really, really want to.

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I hope, yeah. I wonder what their expectations for sales are though.

00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:24.160
Like. I don't know. What if this, I don't necessarily know that it will because there's a lot of brand loyalty

00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.160
in this space. Oh, a lot. But say it goes gangbusters, like, do they really have enough even if they've been shipping

00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:35.600
for a while? I don't know because they have to make up not only for AMD customers who have been itching

00:32:35.600 --> 00:32:42.080
for an upgrade to, you know, their 7700 XT or like, you know, 6700 class card, right?

00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:47.280
Or like a 5700 XT, like desperately waiting for AMD to really have like a killer card.

00:32:47.320 --> 00:32:52.360
That's a great value, right? Yeah. They not only have to deal with that pent up demand, but they have to deal with the pent

00:32:52.360 --> 00:32:58.800
up demand of NVIDIA gamers who are like, yo, where the fuck is anything for me to buy?

00:32:58.800 --> 00:33:03.880
And that's like 85% of the market.

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So unless AMD went like all in and produced 10 X of what they would have normally forecasted.

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That's why I'm saying like, I don't know. They might have shipped like more than you would expect for a launch and it's still might

00:33:20.080 --> 00:33:25.000
not be enough and still might lead into scalping because like there's nothing from the other

00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.360
side. So I don't know. Yeah.

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And it's not, it's not just scalpers, right? Like don't kid yourself.

00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:40.760
Mining is still a thing. Yeah. Like I've seen so many people be like, yeah, it's all the AI, okay, don't kid yourself.

00:33:40.760 --> 00:33:45.120
Mining is a lot less popular these days, but it's still absolutely happening.

00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.400
Yeah. And the contacts that are, you know, getting miners access to these cards before the general

00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:57.360
public are still able to intercept them. If anything, I would think there's less scrutiny on them than before.

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So unless AMD like really is going to flood the market with these things, I would still

00:34:03.560 --> 00:34:09.720
expect pricing to be a little bit elevated, but I'm just hoping that it won't be extremely

00:34:09.720 --> 00:34:14.800
elevated. And with that said, I mean, hope, what does, what does hope even do for you?

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I mean, I've been, I've been bugging Intel on like an every few days or so basis going

00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:25.440
like, you know, hey, you know, what's the deal with channel pricing?

00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.720
Hopefully this can be fixed. Hey, inventory update, are you ramping production?

00:34:29.720 --> 00:34:41.960
Do you have any idea of what's going on with supply? Because B580 and B570 to a lesser degree, but B580 was looking like a savior for entry

00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:45.160
level, you know, affordable gaming. You know what?

00:34:45.160 --> 00:34:50.600
It's still somewhat reasonable. You know, what is, what is MSRP supposed to be?

00:34:50.600 --> 00:34:54.600
$250. Yeah. It's not $250.

00:34:54.600 --> 00:34:59.800
They're all closer to like just under 300 from the last time that I, oh, this is Canadian.

00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.800
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.120
There's your problem. And, and there are still, there are still occasional cards that you can find for close

00:35:07.120 --> 00:35:14.040
to MSRP. I saw something that I think Canada computers for about 370 CAD or 380 CAD, which is about

00:35:14.040 --> 00:35:24.880
$250 US dollars. I also saw some B580s on New Egg that come as part of a bundle, but are darn close to

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.600
MSRP when you account for, oh, it's out of stock now, bloody hell.

00:35:28.600 --> 00:35:31.820
Well, this deal was in stock recently.

00:35:31.820 --> 00:35:38.760
So it was a B580 with a 650 watt power supply for $334 US dollars.

00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:43.480
That is actually not that far off, but no, the rest of them are all, man, some of them

00:35:43.520 --> 00:35:49.080
are even over 400 now. Here's one. Channel pricing has been such a mess like across the board.

00:35:49.080 --> 00:35:55.440
Oh, this one's $359, which is, again, it's too high when the MSRP is $250.

00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.440
Wasn't that $370? Oh, there's promo code. Oh.

00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.760
Yeah. For $20 bucks off.

00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:07.280
I need AMD now, you know, I was rooting for Intel, Intel's still figuring out their

00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:15.880
inventory apparently. So now I'm rooting for AMD to just flood the channel and make it unsustainable for the

00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.240
other players to be priced way out of whack.

00:36:19.240 --> 00:36:24.840
This is an opportunity for AMD to grab some serious market share, which will get developers

00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:30.000
to seriously focus on optimizing for AMD, which could lead to gamers taking AMD more

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:36.040
seriously as an option, turning AMD finally into a player for the first time since like,

00:36:36.040 --> 00:36:45.360
what? Really two thousands, if we're being honest, into like, like an actual other option, not

00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.680
a like, consolation option. Yeah.

00:36:48.680 --> 00:36:53.280
Yeah, for sure. I mean, honestly, I haven't minded, I haven't minded rolling my 7900 XTX.

00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:57.160
I don't, I don't always game on that machine, right?

00:36:57.160 --> 00:37:02.720
Like I also have my 380 like land rig that's one of the like water cooled ones, but I haven't

00:37:02.720 --> 00:37:07.360
had any problems with it. Like the, the Radeon challenge wasn't really a challenge.

00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:17.240
Come on, let's go. What else we got to say here about the launch, the community continues to be very vocal about

00:37:17.240 --> 00:37:24.120
disliking frame generation technology. Lots of fake frames comments in the chat when AMD was live streaming their announcement.

00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:33.200
You also can't go without it though. They can't launch the card without it. Like it's you gotta have it with that said, you know, frame gen is part of the FSR four

00:37:33.200 --> 00:37:41.080
package. So, um, yeah, be ready for AMD to do some, some, some, some generation of frames.

00:37:41.120 --> 00:37:44.320
I guess all that we can really hope for is that they'll do a pretty good job.

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:49.440
And that you won't need it if you don't like it.

00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:58.960
Cause I think that's something that a lot of the enthusiasts are struggling with a little bit.

00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:04.120
I think that it is really easy for us to take our own values and our own priorities and

00:38:04.120 --> 00:38:13.480
just kind of assume that everyone else's are the same. But when I think about the gamers in my life, not all of them are enthusiasts.

00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.240
Not all of them are pixel peepers. Most of them aren't.

00:38:17.200 --> 00:38:22.240
Most of the people that I know, if I were to put an extra 40 milliseconds of input

00:38:22.240 --> 00:38:26.040
latency on something, they probably wouldn't notice.

00:38:26.240 --> 00:38:33.720
Yep. If I were to have some weird image quality crap going on, unless it flickers or draws

00:38:33.720 --> 00:38:39.600
the eye in some like lizard brain, or unless I say, even if I set them looking for it,

00:38:39.600 --> 00:38:45.520
dude, sometimes they'll turn on HDR and people be like, sorry, did you change it yet?

00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:50.880
Like I, and I'm talking like content that like really pops, you know, and, and that's

00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:55.160
the thing, right? So, you know, to our audience, we're kind of going, okay, how does this perform, you

00:38:55.160 --> 00:39:00.240
know, without frame gen? But for a lot of people turning on frame gen and like feeling that additional

00:39:00.240 --> 00:39:04.560
smoothness and just seeing a higher number is going to be, is going to be fine.

00:39:04.560 --> 00:39:09.240
Dude, like I'll always remember that like slack jawed guy in the beanbag chair that

00:39:09.240 --> 00:39:14.480
I talked to at PAX one year who was gaming on an NVIDIA shield, like the little, the

00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:19.680
little clamshell Android handheld, not the, like the TV console, the little clamshell

00:39:19.680 --> 00:39:24.280
thing. And he was streaming over Wi-Fi from a gaming PC that was somewhere else on the

00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:27.400
show floor, playing like a triple A game on this thing.

00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:33.680
And I'm like, oh yeah, like how's the latency? He's like, uh, yeah, that's cool, man.

00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:38.960
Like he absolutely zero appreciation whatsoever for like what he was seeing like

00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:46.360
that and, and that, you know, whatever. Like I'm sure he's really passionate about like cars or something, but obviously, you

00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:50.440
know, the image quality of like the gaming experience is, is not that meaningful.

00:39:51.200 --> 00:39:55.000
And so frame gen is here to stay.

00:39:56.160 --> 00:40:03.760
You don't have to use it. You don't have to like it. You don't have to endorse it, you know, but it's, it's not, it's not going anywhere.

00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:07.040
NVIDIA is invested. AMD is now invested.

00:40:07.040 --> 00:40:12.280
It's a matter of time before Intel has something. Uh, do they, wait, do they have frame gen as part of XCSS too?

00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:16.120
I don't think so. XCSS frame gen.

00:40:17.200 --> 00:40:20.720
Uh, oh, yeah. No, they have frame generation already. There you go. Yeah, I forgot about that.

00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:26.200
So XCSS two has frame gen. So all three major graphics players are invested in frame gen.

00:40:26.200 --> 00:40:29.520
It's not going anywhere, but you don't have to turn it on.

00:40:29.640 --> 00:40:32.840
I suspect that the least invested in frame gen is probably Intel.

00:40:34.040 --> 00:40:40.000
I don't know. XCSS is pretty good. We were playing around with it the other day and it's like, our, that video is coming.

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.920
Actually, we're doing, uh, we're doing a battle mage challenge. Yeah. So both, this is hilarious.

00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:50.160
Both David and Ploof are switching to battle mage.

00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.480
I was going to do it, but you wanted the, the shot.

00:40:53.720 --> 00:40:57.080
I didn't want anything. Oh, they told me you wanted it. What did I want?

00:40:57.600 --> 00:41:00.320
Us to have our computers in here locally for the GPU swap.

00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.560
And I was like, I don't have time to tear everything down. That was a Ploof initiative. Oh, yeah.

00:41:04.600 --> 00:41:08.880
I agree with him that like, like, it is probably better than just like cell

00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:12.240
phone shooting at home. Yeah. The, like, the, the, like it was supposed to be the framing of the video is

00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:16.160
probably everybody brings in their computers and upgrades together. But like, uh, yeah, no, no, that's fine.

00:41:16.160 --> 00:41:19.720
I was like, okay, then Luke doesn't have to do it. Uh, but yeah, Ploof and David are doing it.

00:41:19.720 --> 00:41:25.840
So Ploof, well, first of all, David is pulling a 7,900 XT out of one of his

00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.960
computers and a 30 90 out of the other one.

00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:35.880
Oh, he's doing two. He's doing two because, and he was like, yeah, he felt it wouldn't be fair to

00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:40.440
upgrade only legit. That's very legit because he does so much of his gaming in his living room now.

00:41:40.680 --> 00:41:42.760
That's cool. On his four KTV.

00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:50.760
Oh yeah. Anywho. Um, so, so he's realistically going to be using upscaling, right?

00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.800
Like there's, there's no way he's gaming at four K natively on that thing.

00:41:53.800 --> 00:42:01.600
So it's, it's upscale city. And then Ploof is pulling his 40 90 out and his monitor, which he owns by the way.

00:42:01.600 --> 00:42:03.280
He owns a monitor. He does own a monitor.

00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:09.400
One of those fancy four K to 40 Hertz displays from Alienware.

00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:15.160
Uh, so that's something that he'll be driving with a B five 80.

00:42:15.160 --> 00:42:19.400
So he's going to need all the fake upscaling nonsense that he can get.

00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.400
So he hates that stuff. Intel's kind of climbing uphill with this one, I think.

00:42:23.560 --> 00:42:28.880
Yes. But what I like about both of those guys as participants here is unlike me, they

00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:33.960
play a wide variety of games. So we are likely to, you know, find some edge cases.

00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.920
Oh, wow. It was actually fine in this one. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:37.160 --> 00:42:41.080
And I got to say, you're going to see this in the video, obviously, once we

00:42:41.080 --> 00:42:46.760
upload it, but both of them were quite impressed by what they could achieve with

00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:52.240
it when we did our quick test here in the studio before they embark on the 30

00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:55.680
day B five 80 challenge. Good cards, man. They are good.

00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:03.400
They're legitimately good. Yeah. I just wish they were actually 250 bucks because then you could build a sick entry

00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:08.440
level gaming PC for like 500, 600 dollars and it would put up, it would put

00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.320
downward pricing pressure on basically everything else in the market.

00:43:12.640 --> 00:43:16.800
We just need these bloody cards to be available. Still not getting a response on that.

00:43:17.560 --> 00:43:19.560
Speaking of 30 day challenges.

00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:26.000
I, oh, wait, I think we have to do a sponsor spot.

00:43:28.520 --> 00:43:32.280
This is another topic. Put that away. I think we have to do a sponsor spot.

00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:35.600
Put that away. It's gross. Get out of here. Okay.

00:43:35.640 --> 00:43:38.240
What are we supposed to do? We're going to sponsor spot. Okay.

00:43:39.040 --> 00:43:42.720
I am doing this one. Are you playing the thing? Am I? Am I? Am I? I'm starting to talk. It's got, it's got a read.

00:43:42.720 --> 00:43:48.600
I have no idea. Do I do it? I think I'm doing it. I don't know. Okay. If we didn't, I thought, well, I thought Luke, I thought it was a special

00:43:48.600 --> 00:43:51.680
Luke one. Yeah, I can do it. It doesn't matter. Okay. This one is either of us.

00:43:51.680 --> 00:43:55.600
The second one I think is me. Oh, super secret segment.

00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.880
Okay. No, not that. Okay. Let's get the sponsor spot done.

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Oh, look at you. Is your hand hovering over that phishing email again?

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Okay, Dennis, that is not how that works. The screen doesn't explode and break.

00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:18.520
You're pretty sick of it. Did. Or did an employee get tricked into clicking a malicious file?

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Super secret segment. Shh.

00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.960
It's a secret. Luke and Dan. Don't tell Linus. I literally have no idea what this is.

00:46:05.240 --> 00:46:08.480
What are you guys talking about? Just, just me. What's going on?

00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:13.960
Sherrod is here and Nick is here. Yeah, we have a special delivery that a friend is going to come in and deliver

00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:18.720
to you right the second. So if you want to come in and pass it over, let's make sure the camera

00:46:18.720 --> 00:46:21.720
can can see what you're looking at here.

00:46:24.640 --> 00:46:27.600
I genuinely have no idea. It says Source Luke.

00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:31.240
What? Yeah, but I don't know what it says. Source Luke right here.

00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:33.000
And then I don't know.

00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.720
You knew about it at one point, but you probably forgot. Oh, that's OK.

00:46:40.680 --> 00:46:44.960
I believe you, but I have I have zero memory of what this is.

00:46:45.160 --> 00:46:51.440
Sorry, who knew about it at some point? He did or I? Apparently I did. Yeah, you did, but I didn't know you have no idea for you.

00:46:53.040 --> 00:46:54.880
I don't know. No, I'm good. OK.

00:46:56.040 --> 00:46:59.600
Whoa. Does it have money in it?

00:46:59.600 --> 00:47:01.120
Oh, yeah, I don't. OK, yeah.

00:47:02.600 --> 00:47:05.480
Oh, it's finally here.

00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:11.280
Oh, that's so cool. Wait, why does it have the name picture on it?

00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:18.320
Oh, it's from Dbrand. Wait, why does Dbrand have our million order thing?

00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:22.440
What does that have to do with anything? They hacked the postal system. They hacked the postal system.

00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:26.080
What? What is this? Oh, my God.

00:47:26.080 --> 00:47:29.080
What is this? That's for the lights. What are you told for the lights?

00:47:29.080 --> 00:47:33.280
OK, OK, so there's a whole it's a whole thing. OK, all right, thank you.

00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:37.840
BetterLTTstore.com. Yeah, Dbrand bought that domain a while back as the big nerds.

00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:44.800
Ow, my fingers. Oh, that is so cool.

00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:51.440
This is it, guys. This is the Shopify equivalent of a YouTube play button.

00:47:52.160 --> 00:47:59.480
Much more exclusive, though. Congratulations, LTT Store, on reaching one million orders.

00:47:59.640 --> 00:48:02.240
December 30th, 2024.

00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:06.360
Wow, it's it's fricking solid metal, at least it.

00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.920
I mean, it's got some solid metal in it. No, there's got to be.

00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:14.520
Oh, yeah, no, it's hollow metal. But it's metal. It's it's definitely some metal.

00:48:14.520 --> 00:48:17.640
Dude, that is so cool. Really, really cool.

00:48:17.640 --> 00:48:20.840
I'm going to put it on my wall. No, you have to leave that one here.

00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:25.000
I have to leave. What do you mean? I have to leave this one here. We have a cardboard one for you to take home.

00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.600
What do you mean cardboard one? No, I want a gold one.

00:48:28.600 --> 00:48:31.720
Can I get a gold one? I want a gold one. Can you can spray paint the cardboard?

00:48:31.720 --> 00:48:35.240
What's that? Here's yours. What's that? These are yours.

00:48:35.240 --> 00:48:39.080
What's going on? You don't have to open it. What?

00:48:39.080 --> 00:48:43.320
Oh, they're in the box. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, it's not just a cardboard.

00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:47.160
Oh, it's going to get the Sharpie.

00:48:47.160 --> 00:48:52.440
OK, well, he's opening it anyways. You guys want unboxing version two?

00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:57.000
This is in ShortCircuit. Boxing peanuts, let's go.

00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.960
Free snacks. I can't open it. Don't hurt your elbow again.

00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.480
You've been doing cardio activities at the gym, but maybe it's time to incorporate.

00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:08.560
We don't give Linus wireless things. Oh, wow. Why is the tape so fine?

00:49:08.560 --> 00:49:12.840
You break it, smart guy. It's just going to shear it in half.

00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:16.400
A shock if I call it. I softened it up for him.

00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.640
That was nothing, dude. I loosened it up. I can give you a routine.

00:49:19.640 --> 00:49:23.680
You have the shoulder injury. It'll be OK. It'll be nice to have. So why?

00:49:23.680 --> 00:49:27.840
Where's this ARM? Oh, yeah. Linus, you're weak. I loosened it up for him.

00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:33.440
OK.

00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.640
What's in here? It could be packing peanuts everywhere.

00:49:37.640 --> 00:49:44.000
Could be different. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God, the packing peanuts are everywhere.

00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:48.720
I'll clean them up later. It's OK. What's this?

00:49:48.720 --> 00:49:52.440
What's this? Hold on. There's two things in here.

00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:56.760
OK, all right. More than two things. Oh, yeah. There's some other stuff.

00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:01.000
Oh, we get the whole unboxing experience this time.

00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:06.240
OK, cool, cool, cool. So here you go, guys. This is the box that comes in.

00:50:06.240 --> 00:50:13.000
Oh, oh. You get a money moves sticker pack.

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:17.880
You get a. Very close to mogul moves. Yeah, I noticed that, actually.

00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.760
You get a whatever the crap this is.

00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:28.280
I can't tell if I. Oh, yeah. OK, there you go. You get a little milestone card signed

00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:33.360
by Harley Finkelstein, who, I mean, yeah, sure.

00:50:33.680 --> 00:50:37.200
Probably less, less controversial than Toby these days.

00:50:42.560 --> 00:50:44.160
Something special awaits.

00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:50.000
And what else we got here? Professional unboxer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.920
Well, look, normally as a professional unboxer, I have a bloody table to put the thing on.

00:50:54.920 --> 00:51:01.720
There you go. There's our silver award. So I asked if, like YouTube, you can pay a little extra

00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:08.520
and get an additional copy of the award in case your narcissistic CEO needs to have one at his own house.

00:51:09.240 --> 00:51:15.040
And the answer, it turns out, was yes. Is it really, you know, a proper award if you have to buy it?

00:51:15.040 --> 00:51:18.040
I don't know. I think so. I still think so.

00:51:18.040 --> 00:51:21.000
How much? How much do we have to pay to get another?

00:51:21.040 --> 00:51:24.520
Oh, wow, product care. Look at that.

00:51:27.080 --> 00:51:30.920
Wow, what a racket. All right. I don't know.

00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:34.560
OK, we apparently don't remember. We don't remember how much we paid for it.

00:51:34.560 --> 00:51:38.160
But there it is. LTT Store, silver and gold, baby.

00:51:38.160 --> 00:51:41.520
Do they have a higher tier? Would there have been an amount that you wouldn't have paid?

00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:45.840
Like, how much would you have not bought it at? I think that's why he probably doesn't know.

00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.520
Yeah, there's nothing. So we reached 100,000 December 20.

00:51:50.520 --> 00:51:54.400
Wait, really? Wow, it was exactly four years apart.

00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:00.360
December 28, 2020, and then a million December 30, 2024.

00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:04.640
So how many people have one of these? Does anyone know?

00:52:04.640 --> 00:52:07.640
I don't know. You don't know or you're not allowed to say.

00:52:07.640 --> 00:52:10.840
Ah, OK. Oh, someone from Shopify is here. OK, cool.

00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:14.120
Toby's controversial.

00:52:14.120 --> 00:52:17.440
And are you allowed to say how many gold people?

00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:24.680
No. But can you say if it's fewer than YouTube gold play buttons?

00:52:24.680 --> 00:52:28.680
I would think so. Nice. Yeah. Nice. I would think by a lot, to be honest.

00:52:28.680 --> 00:52:33.600
Nice. Also, it's OK. I have a terrible boss, too.

00:52:33.600 --> 00:52:37.480
I mean, I'm not his boss, or whatever. Don't care. Oh, no, he's deflected it.

00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:42.240
No, it's bad. Technically, that didn't even go to me. And if I am your terrible boss, it wasn't me.

00:52:42.240 --> 00:52:45.400
Wait, no. Or you deserved it.

00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:48.840
Yeah, we're bad at being narcissists. I forget how it goes.

00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:53.160
Speak for yourself. I'm great at it. There you go. Thanks, Nick.

00:52:53.160 --> 00:52:56.760
All right, cool. Thank you. Shopify.

00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:00.600
Oh, thank you very much. Thanks so much. Nice to meet you.

00:53:00.600 --> 00:53:05.280
Do I still have one? Yeah, OK. So cool. I can't wait to put little shelves on my award

00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:09.600
wall and put them on it. Oh, that's so cool.

00:53:09.600 --> 00:53:12.600
A million freaking orders. That's pretty nuts.

00:53:12.600 --> 00:53:18.320
Wild dude. Did we have something like less than 100 in 2018?

00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:22.160
It's come a long way. Yeah, that probably sounds about right.

00:53:22.160 --> 00:53:25.920
That's about 100 or 100,000. No, in 2018, like.

00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:31.880
We started the store, basically. 2019, yeah.

00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:38.720
Yeah, so it's gone through. As you guys are about to see in the in the 2020.

00:53:38.720 --> 00:53:43.760
Nick's holding the other gold one. As you guys are about to see in the.

00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:47.480
Oh, I was just about to turn it on. There we go. We figured it out.

00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:52.120
In the how does LMG make money update?

00:53:52.120 --> 00:53:56.680
Create a warehouse. The LTT Store.

00:53:56.680 --> 00:54:02.480
Is a lot. I mean, Floatplane has grown in share in the pie.

00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.920
You guys are going to see that. So massive shout out to the Floatplane team

00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:09.080
and our floaters who are watching on Floatplane right now in the live chat.

00:54:09.080 --> 00:54:13.360
Thank you very much, guys. They have grown.

00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:18.480
LTT Store has grown a lot.

00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:22.760
AdSense makes up a shockingly small amount of our revenue.

00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:26.240
Have you seen the pie? Yeah. You've seen the pie chart? I'm not going to show you guys the pie chart.

00:54:26.240 --> 00:54:29.840
I think it's going to be genuinely stunning for people

00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:34.080
that don't do this. I think it's going to be genuinely stunning for our YouTube

00:54:34.080 --> 00:54:39.240
contacts to realize how little of our company's revenue

00:54:39.240 --> 00:54:44.320
comes from AdSense. I think that depending on who you talk to at YouTube,

00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:49.920
they think they swing a really big dick in terms of their

00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:54.080
effectiveness for creator monetization. Some of them get it.

00:54:54.120 --> 00:54:58.640
And there are other ones that are like, yeah, no, no, we know.

00:54:58.640 --> 00:55:01.800
We know and we're figuring out how to kind of work on it.

00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:06.120
But I've had conversations there. Stuff like shopping is a step in the right direction.

00:55:06.120 --> 00:55:10.720
Absolutely. I mean, that's something I've been pushing them for for eight,

00:55:10.720 --> 00:55:14.840
nine years. Like, hey, guys, you need to get over whatever the ego is

00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:18.880
that prevents you from working with other big tech brands.

00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:22.440
And you need to just figure this out. You need to just integrate this stuff in the platform.

00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:27.200
Because TikTok came in and just ate their lunch on it. And so I think there's some of them

00:55:27.200 --> 00:55:31.640
that are going to figure it out. But there's other ones that I've talked to. And I basically said, hey, yeah, I

00:55:31.640 --> 00:55:35.480
couldn't help noticing that your monetization

00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:41.160
efficiency compared to what our business team, who quite

00:55:41.160 --> 00:55:44.200
frankly, is great. They work hard.

00:55:44.200 --> 00:55:48.200
They're personable. They understand our product. They understand our processes.

00:55:48.200 --> 00:55:51.840
They build relationships. They do a lot of really good stuff.

00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.640
But every single one of them, we basically just recruited off the street, essentially.

00:55:55.640 --> 00:56:00.560
We didn't bring in seasoned industry advertising industry

00:56:00.560 --> 00:56:06.480
salespeople. They're just guys. They're just a bunch of gamer bros.

00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.760
The fact that they are so dramatically outperforming

00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:13.080
from an RPM standpoint, like a revenue per thousand

00:56:13.080 --> 00:56:17.040
views standpoint, AdSense, to me, means

00:56:17.040 --> 00:56:22.520
that AdSense is not that great. Not that we are like magic rock stars.

00:56:22.520 --> 00:56:26.360
To me, it means that if Google just across the board said,

00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:32.720
hey, yeah, your AdSense bids need to be higher. Do you think it has to do with skippable, like the skip

00:56:32.720 --> 00:56:36.640
button on ads and ad blocker?

00:56:36.640 --> 00:56:44.000
No, because it's, I think it probably partially

00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:48.760
contributes, especially on a more tech-savvy channel

00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:54.120
like ours, where people have the, because I think the percentage of people that are annoyed

00:56:54.120 --> 00:56:57.720
by ads is probably the same across a cooking channel

00:56:57.720 --> 00:57:01.360
and our channel. But the percentage of people who could take that annoyance

00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:06.280
and turn it into a piehole deployment is going to be a lot higher for us, right?

00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:16.040
Well, I think we talked about this in the pre-show. But Firefox very recently mega-fumbled a update to their,

00:57:16.040 --> 00:57:19.240
what was it, terms and conditions or something.

00:57:19.240 --> 00:57:23.280
And then their response to mega-fumbling that

00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.120
was also not amazing, even though it sounds like it's

00:57:27.120 --> 00:57:30.320
probably not a huge deal. Relatable.

00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:34.720
Their response was really bad. And what I've seen as a result of this

00:57:34.720 --> 00:57:38.920
is a lot of people switching from Firefox to Brave

00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:42.600
and also other people discovering that Brave exists,

00:57:42.600 --> 00:57:45.600
like Chrome users seeing the Firefox news cycle and going,

00:57:45.600 --> 00:57:50.200
oh, what is this Brave thing? And Brave has, as far as my understanding goes,

00:57:50.200 --> 00:57:54.840
I've never actually used it, has native ad blocking built into the browser.

00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.360
So like, yeah.

00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:03.600
Yeah, Brave is, they also have, don't they have their like attention token and stuff too?

00:58:03.600 --> 00:58:08.080
Like, I forget exactly how all of that works. So don't, don't, don't quote me on it.

00:58:08.080 --> 00:58:12.240
I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, so let's not get into it if we don't sort of fully

00:58:12.240 --> 00:58:18.440
understand what their model is. But anyway, the point that I was trying to make

00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:24.360
is just that, you know, to some of the people I talk at,

00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:29.040
talk to at Google, sometimes it does feel like talking at people, some of the people I talk to at Google,

00:58:29.040 --> 00:58:33.560
they look at, you know, our business team's ability

00:58:33.560 --> 00:58:36.920
to monetize, and they go, well, that's just, you know,

00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:43.040
your sponsors must be stupid to pay that much. I've literally heard that response from people at YouTube.

00:58:43.040 --> 00:58:47.520
Whereas others look at that and they go, oh, we're dropping the ball on that sentence.

00:58:47.520 --> 00:58:51.920
Because we could be doing 5x, 10x, the RPM.

00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:55.080
Not just in other segments. We know creators in similar segments

00:58:55.080 --> 00:58:58.120
that are charging more per like view.

00:58:58.120 --> 00:59:01.680
Yeah, absolutely. So like, what are you even talking about? Absolutely.

00:59:01.680 --> 00:59:06.080
And the thing is like, again, I don't want to take anything away from our business team

00:59:06.080 --> 00:59:10.600
because they work hard and they really do take the time.

00:59:10.600 --> 00:59:16.720
They take the time to understand the brand. They take the time to understand our voice,

00:59:16.720 --> 00:59:20.320
and our brand, and our lines in the sand where we're just

00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:23.760
like, no, we're not going to do that. We're not going to cross that. They take the time to understand that.

00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:27.360
They take the time to bridge that gap, and that's work, right?

00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:34.000
But I also don't think that, you know, none of them have a PhD in ad sales, you know?

00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:39.440
So I think this is replicatable. I think it could be done if you take the time.

00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:48.560
All right, what are we supposed to be talking about? I think whatever we want.

00:59:48.560 --> 00:59:51.760
Cool. Oh, you're Mac.

00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:54.400
It's time. All right, let's do it.

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macOS is great, unless you try to use it as a desktop

01:00:07.720 --> 01:00:12.920
operating system, because my experience using the MacBook

01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:18.280
actually pretty solid as long as I use it as a MacBook.

01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:21.640
But one of the things that I noted on the shopping video

01:00:21.640 --> 01:00:27.360
where I went through all of my different options was a prevailing sentiment from the audience

01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.600
was Linus, right out of the gate, you are doing this wrong.

01:00:31.600 --> 01:00:37.920
Nobody buys a Mac mini and a MacBook, like two cheap devices.

01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:41.840
Anyone with an ounce of sense would buy one good MacBook

01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:46.560
and then a dock. And so I kind of went, OK, that actually works pretty well

01:00:46.560 --> 01:00:50.280
for my month experiment, because I don't really need.

01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:54.280
Kind of annoying to switch devices. Because I wanted to use my Mac at home as well.

01:00:54.280 --> 01:01:00.120
And so what I'm going to go buy, like, three Macs now? No. So no, what I'm going to do is I'm going to deploy the Mac mini

01:01:00.120 --> 01:01:06.920
at home and then at work, where I carry a backpack, commuter

01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:11.040
backpack, lttstore.com, where I carry commuter backpack.

01:01:11.040 --> 01:01:16.880
Anyway, I'm just going to carry my MacBook around. I'm going to dock it in my office and then use it as a laptop.

01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:21.480
And what's been really nice about that is that I never have to think about charging this thing,

01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:25.120
because it charges whenever I'm docked. I've got all my peripherals plugged in.

01:01:25.120 --> 01:01:29.920
And the whole thing is really seamless, in theory.

01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:36.240
This is the part where we get into what is just two days of notes

01:01:36.240 --> 01:01:43.640
and is already, like, two full pages of densely formatted text

01:01:43.640 --> 01:01:47.560
in my What Things Are Like, Switching to macOS.

01:01:47.560 --> 01:01:51.440
And you know what? I want to preface this.

01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:57.560
Calm the f**k down. This segment was helpful when we did the iPhones.

01:01:57.560 --> 01:02:01.080
I want to preface this by saying, a lot of these things,

01:02:01.080 --> 01:02:06.040
I haven't even looked into a fix yet. Because right now, what I'm doing is

01:02:06.040 --> 01:02:11.920
I am experiencing macOS as it is out of the box.

01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:17.680
OK, well, actually, there are a couple of things I've had to fix already, because I just could not handle it.

01:02:17.680 --> 01:02:22.600
But for the most part, I haven't even tried to find mitigations yet.

01:02:22.640 --> 01:02:26.240
So that doesn't mean don't pipe in in the chat

01:02:26.240 --> 01:02:31.720
with your ideas about how I could fix them. Absolutely, I want to see that, because I

01:02:31.720 --> 01:02:37.680
want to have the best possible macOS experience. I'm just saying that if I say something that it turns out

01:02:37.680 --> 01:02:44.240
is not the case, it might be that I had a weird edge case. It might be that I haven't googled it yet.

01:02:44.240 --> 01:02:46.240
These are raw notes. They're raw notes.

01:02:47.240 --> 01:02:50.600
Unlocking with the watch, pretty nice.

01:02:50.600 --> 01:02:53.960
It's one of those things where, would I buy a watch expressly

01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:59.080
for that purpose? Absolutely not. But it is pretty convenient to just sit down at my desk,

01:02:59.080 --> 01:03:03.840
and my computer's unlocked. Because you're close. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot more expensive than a webcam

01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:08.600
with Windows Hello face recognition. A webcam that's already built in anyways.

01:03:08.600 --> 01:03:12.720
Well, this uses Touch ID.

01:03:12.720 --> 01:03:17.640
So you just press the power button. So you just press the power button anyway,

01:03:17.640 --> 01:03:21.080
unless you dock and then don't press the power button.

01:03:21.080 --> 01:03:25.960
But then also, managing the screen is a pain in the butt.

01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:29.480
Have you used a Mac recently? No. OK, so when?

01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:34.040
Well, the nice lady that lives across the hall

01:03:34.040 --> 01:03:39.320
sometimes has computer problems, and she is a Mac, so I try to fix them. But I'm not using it for my own stuff.

01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:47.680
Did you know that if you plug in an external display and leave this open, you cannot turn this off?

01:03:47.680 --> 01:03:51.560
The only way to turn it off is to close it and leave it docked.

01:03:51.560 --> 01:03:55.520
The computer will stay on, and you don't have to configure anything for that behavior.

01:03:55.520 --> 01:03:59.360
But your only options are mirror and extend.

01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:03.520
You can't just be like, no. Weird. Be off now.

01:04:03.520 --> 01:04:07.920
Odd. And, dude, I cannot actually believe

01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:14.200
that this is still a thing. But the way that it handles resolution configuration,

01:04:14.200 --> 01:04:17.360
you do not configure a display resolution

01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:23.760
and then configure scaling. You just set a resolution, and it outputs

01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:29.240
the native resolution of the display, but scales it as if it were that resolution.

01:04:29.240 --> 01:04:33.120
Does it at least tell you what the native is?

01:04:33.120 --> 01:04:39.080
So I've had, I don't know if it's my dock, or if it's just macOS being a giant steaming pile of garbage.

01:04:39.520 --> 01:04:42.960
Sometimes docks can confuse things. Sometimes when I plug in, it knows

01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:47.760
that 4K is the maximum. And remembers that the last time I configured it to 4K

01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:52.720
so that I have lots and lots of screen real estate, and sometimes it comes up with these oddball,

01:04:52.720 --> 01:04:56.680
Rando resolutions. It doesn't seem to be related to which port, which

01:04:56.680 --> 01:05:02.520
are my two ports I plug into. So I'm not ready to make a statement there.

01:05:02.520 --> 01:05:05.680
Let's go through some of your things. Well, I mean, I am.

01:05:05.680 --> 01:05:09.960
That's what I'm doing. That's one of them. But what's inconvenient about that

01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:13.000
is that say I had a display like my one that I have,

01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:17.520
which is a 4K 165 Hertz display, or 144 Hertz,

01:05:17.520 --> 01:05:22.360
or something like that. That's your work desk monitor? Yeah, it's a 42-inch OLED.

01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:26.560
I only have one. OK. How many monitors do you have at work?

01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.600
Well, across both my desks. OK, yes. I have three.

01:05:31.600 --> 01:05:34.960
OK, so I have one monitor. So calm down.

01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:40.640
So I have one monitor. It's a nice monitor, but it's one monitor. So on a PC, I would be able to make a choice.

01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:44.800
Let's say I had a slower, you know, earlier generation HDMI link.

01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:51.240
I could say, OK, hey, run it at 1080p. Let the display scale, or use like 4 to 1 pixel

01:05:51.240 --> 01:05:54.640
perfect integer scaling. That's the word I'm looking for.

01:05:54.640 --> 01:05:58.960
And then run it at 120 Hertz. Or I could say, run it 4K, run it 60 Hertz.

01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:03.880
I'd rather have the resolution. On a Mac, I cannot find an obvious way to do that.

01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:08.440
And I will look into it. Someone's sending me a Synaptix product.

01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:12.360
Display link graphics. Yeah. OK, I'm going to have to.

01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:17.600
Who knows? I'm going to have to start making some notes here, guys.

01:06:17.600 --> 01:06:20.600
Oh, my goodness, Chad's moving too fast.

01:06:20.600 --> 01:06:24.080
Anyway, on macOS, there's not an obvious way

01:06:24.080 --> 01:06:28.840
for me to deal with that. And that's pretty frustrating.

01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:33.720
I can't find an obvious way to even configure 120 Hertz

01:06:33.720 --> 01:06:38.320
in the first place. Like, my external monitor just runs at 60 Hertz.

01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:43.000
But I can't tell if that's because the HDMI port on my dock

01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:50.160
is limited to that or not. So I haven't really looked into that in detail yet.

01:06:50.160 --> 01:06:54.800
All right, so what else we got here? Oh, my god.

01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:59.600
OK, this makes me legitimately extremely angry.

01:06:59.600 --> 01:07:04.680
So Luke, go ahead and scroll this document in a way

01:07:04.680 --> 01:07:07.800
that you would, you know, two fingers on the trackpad, you know, like you would.

01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:13.960
OK, that feels right, right? OK, so that is Apple's natural scrolling, right?

01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:18.240
So where up is down and down is up, like it was a touchscreen.

01:07:18.240 --> 01:07:21.880
OK. OK. And that's the default behavior.

01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:25.440
But if you haven't used a Mac in a while, you might not know this.

01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:29.200
If you plug in a mouse, it's the same.

01:07:29.200 --> 01:07:32.880
Down is up and up is down on the scroll wheel,

01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:36.360
which, no, is not how that's ever worked in the history

01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:41.280
of anything other than on Apple's touch mice.

01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:44.480
OK, you can change that. No problem.

01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:49.320
You can change that. You can change it from natural to not natural.

01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:53.040
But if you change the toggle for your mouse,

01:07:53.040 --> 01:07:57.880
it changes it for your touchpad. And if you change it for your touchpad,

01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:01.720
it changes it for your mouse. Oh, my god.

01:08:01.720 --> 01:08:02.200
Why?

01:08:05.200 --> 01:08:10.640
That's pretty cool. Why? They are not the same thing.

01:08:10.640 --> 01:08:14.640
People are pointing out you can use linear mouse or another free software.

01:08:14.640 --> 01:08:20.160
It won't toggle both. Yes, I will note that down, and I will use that.

01:08:20.160 --> 01:08:23.920
I should not have to do that.

01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:29.240
That should be a thing that just be, and the stupidest part is that if you go into the system

01:08:29.280 --> 01:08:32.360
settings, they are two completely separate menus.

01:08:32.360 --> 01:08:36.360
There's one for trackpad, and when you have a mouse plugged in,

01:08:36.360 --> 01:08:40.640
the mouse menu appears, and you go in there, and that option is there.

01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:46.280
They are two separate submenus, but when you change them in one,

01:08:46.280 --> 01:08:50.560
it changes it in the other one. I find it kind of interesting because Windows is kind of

01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:56.640
like last place right now in regards to, in my opinion,

01:08:56.640 --> 01:09:02.320
how often people do customizations to OS functionality.

01:09:02.320 --> 01:09:08.320
Not that that's a race that you necessarily want to win, I don't know, but I never really hear people talking

01:09:08.320 --> 01:09:13.640
about rain meters more just like stylistic,

01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:19.200
but there's been a lot of things over the years that you can do to Windows to make it work in different ways,

01:09:19.200 --> 01:09:26.520
and Linux is obviously somewhat famous for it, but you always hear, like if you express any issue with Mac,

01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:30.480
people know about some app probably paid that you can get,

01:09:30.480 --> 01:09:35.880
that'll solve your problem. It might be like three bucks or something, like it's probably not a huge deal, but damn.

01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:39.360
I just, I shouldn't need that to do something

01:09:39.360 --> 01:09:42.400
that Apple literally built the functionality for,

01:09:42.400 --> 01:09:45.960
but then just decided to half arse it.

01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:50.280
Oh man, here's one that I had to fix right away.

01:09:50.280 --> 01:09:54.000
I do think this mouse thing that people are linking,

01:09:54.000 --> 01:10:00.000
I think it's free and open source, so that's cool. I installed sensible side buttons on the first day.

01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:06.320
Sensible side buttons, what does that mean? Because by default, my third party mouse,

01:10:06.320 --> 01:10:10.480
just a Logitech super light, didn't have back and forward functionality

01:10:10.480 --> 01:10:18.440
on the side buttons. They just didn't do anything? It's like, brother, the first mouse I ever owned

01:10:18.440 --> 01:10:21.480
with a side button on it to go back in the browser

01:10:21.480 --> 01:10:26.400
and in File Explorer and stuff. Worked immediately. I was out in 2000 f***ing three.

01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:32.680
That was, I kid you not, 22 years ago.

01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:39.680
To plug in a mouse and not have it immediately,

01:10:40.360 --> 01:10:44.720
immediately understand back and forward is,

01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:49.800
well, insane. It's not sensible. There, that's what I was looking for.

01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:54.780
It's not sensible. So I have a third party app that will fix that.

01:10:54.780 --> 01:10:59.540
Someone says, not even with Logi options installed. I don't care.

01:10:59.540 --> 01:11:05.380
No. No other Linux Windows, like f***ing Android.

01:11:05.660 --> 01:11:09.420
Okay, you could plug in a mouse and the basic buttons will work.

01:11:09.420 --> 01:11:12.740
Yeah, sure, you're like macro functionality or whatever, probably won't.

01:11:12.740 --> 01:11:16.100
And you know how sensible side buttons works?

01:11:16.100 --> 01:11:18.620
It emulates like a three finger swipe.

01:11:19.340 --> 01:11:22.380
Because the functionality doesn't appear to exist

01:11:22.380 --> 01:11:28.380
for the mouse in macOS. That's just negligent.

01:11:28.380 --> 01:11:34.020
That is negligent. W. Calderini says, Apple really, really, really wants you

01:11:34.020 --> 01:11:37.380
to use the Apple mouse and that's nice. And if they want that, then they should build a mouse

01:11:37.380 --> 01:11:41.020
that doesn't destroy my wrist. That's not an option for me.

01:11:41.020 --> 01:11:45.420
I literally will not use that. Or you need to like help this turtle in order to charge it.

01:11:45.420 --> 01:11:47.860
You still have to do that, don't you? Yes.

01:11:48.980 --> 01:11:52.300
This is great.

01:11:52.300 --> 01:11:56.620
One of my notes says, repeat rate is so slow for keys like backspace.

01:11:56.620 --> 01:11:59.060
Oh my God, I need third party software.

01:12:00.620 --> 01:12:07.300
Dude, holding down the backspace, excuse me, delete key is infuriating.

01:12:07.300 --> 01:12:12.020
I am literally like dying as I wait for the cursor

01:12:12.020 --> 01:12:16.540
to norm up all the characters that I've typed. It looks like I need third party software for that,

01:12:16.580 --> 01:12:19.940
but I have not really looked that. I've not looked that close to that.

01:12:22.620 --> 01:12:24.100
Let's see, what else we got?

01:12:26.020 --> 01:12:30.660
I ran into a super weird bug. Oh, did I pull you in to show you this?

01:12:30.660 --> 01:12:33.940
The text clarity bug? No, I think I did.

01:12:33.940 --> 01:12:37.660
Dude, that was very odd. That was weird. I took a video on my iPhone.

01:12:37.660 --> 01:12:44.380
I'm not gonna send it to you guys right now. I can't understand what even happened. Yeah, like the browser rendering completely bunged up.

01:12:44.380 --> 01:12:47.700
But only a part of it. Super buggy. It was only in certain tabs.

01:12:47.700 --> 01:12:54.020
So it was definitely browser related. It seems like a Safari bug. And yes, I'm using Safari because I am having-

01:12:54.020 --> 01:12:58.140
That's its own challenge. The Mac experience. That is its own challenge.

01:12:58.140 --> 01:13:03.540
Speaking of rendering issues. I can install all their browsers on a Mac. Here, I'll send this one to Dan.

01:13:03.540 --> 01:13:06.860
This will be a teaser. Like dude, Apple seriously,

01:13:06.860 --> 01:13:10.580
this is a genuine conflicts of interest be damned.

01:13:10.580 --> 01:13:14.940
Apple, I am genuinely offering to come in

01:13:14.980 --> 01:13:18.580
and work for you guys for a week as a consultant.

01:13:18.580 --> 01:13:23.580
I will give you a to-do list of just sensible ass fixes

01:13:23.580 --> 01:13:29.100
that you guys can make to macOS that will genuinely improve the experience of your product.

01:13:29.100 --> 01:13:33.660
I will do it for free. I will come down to Cupertino.

01:13:34.820 --> 01:13:39.820
I will do it for free. And I guarantee you, based on how much stuff

01:13:39.820 --> 01:13:43.460
that I found in like three hours,

01:13:43.460 --> 01:13:48.340
it will be some of the most valuable time that your developers have ever spent with anyone.

01:13:48.340 --> 01:13:53.140
Because I don't know what it is. Is it that your users are afraid to tell you this stuff

01:13:53.140 --> 01:13:56.540
or that they just, or that your staff doesn't care

01:13:56.540 --> 01:14:01.420
or people are just so used to these stupid workarounds that they just, they don't see them anymore?

01:14:01.420 --> 01:14:07.500
I don't know what it is, but you clearly need an outsider's perspective because the fact that, Dan, check this out.

01:14:07.500 --> 01:14:09.420
What the heck, no.

01:14:10.500 --> 01:14:13.780
Did you see the thing I just sent you in Teams? Okay, so bring it up.

01:14:15.980 --> 01:14:20.180
I didn't realize he had sent you something. So when he was like... Steve Jobs.

01:14:20.180 --> 01:14:23.900
What? Steve Jobs would be rolling in his fucking grave.

01:14:23.900 --> 01:14:30.620
Oh, because the padding thing. Seeing this. Look, the Apple fucking logo is cut off.

01:14:31.580 --> 01:14:33.220
Oh, no way.

01:14:36.220 --> 01:14:37.220
Look at this.

01:14:39.780 --> 01:14:42.820
The top left here. It's not cut off. No, it's not.

01:14:43.740 --> 01:14:48.380
Sometimes, sometimes, the logo gets cut off.

01:14:48.380 --> 01:14:50.420
Wait, really? Why does it move at all?

01:14:51.780 --> 01:14:54.860
What a great question, Luke. It's OLED safe, like the WAN banner.

01:14:54.860 --> 01:14:57.740
Yeah, why does Overscan exist? I don't know.

01:15:00.180 --> 01:15:03.780
I'm sorry. The same logo and it just goes off the screen. Isn't that wild?

01:15:05.540 --> 01:15:09.620
Isn't that wild? You know, I would respect it if it was OLED safe,

01:15:09.620 --> 01:15:15.580
but the fact that it would go off the screen is insane. It's just the logo, not any of the other top art text.

01:15:15.580 --> 01:15:19.460
And you look how much padding it has on my built-in display.

01:15:19.460 --> 01:15:23.060
Yeah, it's a lot. Initially, I thought, I was like, oh, you know what it probably is,

01:15:23.060 --> 01:15:27.020
is because Apple has their stupid rounded displays and this is a square corner one or something.

01:15:27.020 --> 01:15:31.700
That's not it because I went and checked on Alex's system because he's also doing the 30-day challenge

01:15:31.700 --> 01:15:35.260
and his is fine. And he has never seen it.

01:15:36.340 --> 01:15:40.420
How do any of their products have bugs? They only have to make them for one device.

01:15:40.420 --> 01:15:44.580
It's just driving me nuts. It's wild.

01:15:44.580 --> 01:15:47.660
Disk management is terrible. I mean, disk management is kind of terrible

01:15:47.660 --> 01:15:50.740
on Windows as well, but I had a Linux formatted USB drive

01:15:50.740 --> 01:15:53.900
and I basically put it in and like read all the files and everything,

01:15:53.900 --> 01:15:57.420
but I couldn't copy anything to it. I couldn't erase it.

01:15:57.420 --> 01:16:01.420
I couldn't reformat it. The flow was wrong.

01:16:01.420 --> 01:16:06.220
So when I couldn't do it, it sent me to a tool that didn't even bring me

01:16:06.220 --> 01:16:11.100
to the USB drive. It just took me to the system settings for my boot drive.

01:16:11.100 --> 01:16:14.380
It could be completely useless, completely sent me in the wrong direction.

01:16:14.380 --> 01:16:18.900
It might as well have been like a fix it wizard from Windows XP.

01:16:18.900 --> 01:16:20.380
Completely useless.

01:16:22.820 --> 01:16:26.620
Oh, man. Oh, man.

01:16:29.500 --> 01:16:34.140
Cypher Colt said, is it a pixel shift to protect the panel? No, Dan and I were just talking about that.

01:16:34.140 --> 01:16:37.340
And even if it was, you wouldn't have to

01:16:37.500 --> 01:16:40.780
make it go off the screen. Well, no, the panel would do it.

01:16:40.780 --> 01:16:44.860
So Apple wouldn't be able to control that. That's definitely still not what's happening.

01:16:44.860 --> 01:16:48.340
It's only the logo. Based on the other things, yeah, exactly. Based on the other things that are on the screen,

01:16:48.340 --> 01:16:54.700
that's not what it is. I will double check. I will make sure before I actually crucify Apple

01:16:54.700 --> 01:16:57.900
for cutting off their own logo in their interface.

01:16:57.900 --> 01:17:01.660
Well, that doesn't fit the design language. And as you said, Steve would be rolling over.

01:17:01.660 --> 01:17:06.660
Steve would be livid if he saw the Apple logo get cut off.

01:17:07.380 --> 01:17:12.500
Livid. And that's not even like debatable.

01:17:12.500 --> 01:17:15.780
You literally cannot debate this.

01:17:15.780 --> 01:17:20.020
Imagine. Oh, yeah. There's no way.

01:17:20.020 --> 01:17:23.020
Like people would potentially be fired

01:17:23.020 --> 01:17:26.260
over something that egregious. You do not. Screaming.

01:17:26.260 --> 01:17:29.620
You do not do that. GraySim says it's not only the logo.

01:17:29.620 --> 01:17:33.660
And I think you might be right. So I think it might be down to the weird display scaling

01:17:33.660 --> 01:17:40.060
issues that I'm having. So I will investigate. But it shouldn't happen with any kind of display scaling.

01:17:40.060 --> 01:17:44.940
Yep. Yeah, I think there's less margin on top of Safari as well.

01:17:44.940 --> 01:17:48.220
Yeah, there definitely is. Look, either way, either way, I will look into it,

01:17:48.220 --> 01:17:52.740
but this is not a desired behavior. And I think that's too much to be OLED pixel shift.

01:17:52.740 --> 01:17:55.260
But I will check. I will check.

01:17:56.580 --> 01:18:01.620
But oh my God. They're definitely right. It's not just the. The acceleration on the mouse scroll wheel.

01:18:01.620 --> 01:18:05.300
That's the first thing I asked you. Infuriating.

01:18:05.300 --> 01:18:08.300
Infuriating. If you do it because they use.

01:18:08.300 --> 01:18:12.660
I don't even realize. They use momentum, like on a touch interface.

01:18:12.660 --> 01:18:17.460
And it's ironic, right? For computers that don't have touch screens.

01:18:18.940 --> 01:18:23.420
Touch pads. Yeah, they have touch pads. So they, so it uses.

01:18:24.820 --> 01:18:28.300
What? Start listening. Can you not close that? Yeah, this is amazing.

01:18:28.300 --> 01:18:31.860
Okay, welcome to Apple Music. I was just looking like how do you close it? So they have, you know,

01:18:32.300 --> 01:18:35.780
they have like close this thing, you know, interface,

01:18:35.780 --> 01:18:39.740
but oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, sorry. You want to, oh, oh, okay.

01:18:39.740 --> 01:18:45.460
No, well, yeah, sometimes. Sometimes the red button just like goes away

01:18:45.460 --> 01:18:48.660
and you need to use the top bar because.

01:18:48.660 --> 01:18:52.620
Like I talked about this a lot in my iPhone challenge video.

01:18:52.620 --> 01:18:57.340
Where it's like, look, if you want to have your logic for doing things, fine.

01:18:58.300 --> 01:19:01.620
Fine. There needs to be consistency.

01:19:01.780 --> 01:19:06.100
If you're going to have your little stop lights and the red one closes this window

01:19:06.100 --> 01:19:10.660
and you, you saw that, it literally had the stop lights,

01:19:10.660 --> 01:19:14.220
but the red one was grayed out. Why don't the red one? F***ing why?

01:19:15.260 --> 01:19:20.260
If you know it's supposed to be there, you clearly know what I want to do.

01:19:20.260 --> 01:19:23.900
Let it close. No. But no, I have to go up to the top.

01:19:23.900 --> 01:19:29.040
You're not allowed. That's not, that's not okay. That's, that is just bad design.

01:19:29.040 --> 01:19:32.860
And again, it's not debatable. Is command queue like Alt F4?

01:19:32.860 --> 01:19:39.340
Yeah. Inconsistent design is bad design.

01:19:41.300 --> 01:19:44.580
That's it. Someone in chat saying command queue everything

01:19:44.580 --> 01:19:48.340
or else it doesn't fully close the application. Dan, do you want to get rid of the screenshot?

01:19:48.340 --> 01:19:51.540
Oh, sorry, I forgot. I thought command queue was more like control W

01:19:51.540 --> 01:19:55.580
and then there's like command something queue, which is more like Alt F4.

01:19:55.580 --> 01:19:58.940
I don't know. I haven't had to use it yet. It's been a long while. Unsure.

01:19:59.860 --> 01:20:03.380
Let's see what else we got. Oh man, the acceleration on the scroll wheel. I haven't looked into that one yet.

01:20:03.380 --> 01:20:07.380
Hopefully there's a fix for that, but it is infuriating. Oh, it's more like control queue on Linux.

01:20:07.380 --> 01:20:10.660
Okay. I mean, that makes sense. Oh, command W.

01:20:10.660 --> 01:20:16.420
So that's like control W on Windows. Capturing screenshots was pure pain the first time I did it

01:20:16.420 --> 01:20:21.420
because basically, actually like still makes me mad.

01:20:21.700 --> 01:20:27.980
I asked Alex, which was my first mistake. And he goes, oh, it's command shift five, I think,

01:20:27.980 --> 01:20:32.200
or something like that. No, no, no. He told me three, I think it's command shift three

01:20:32.200 --> 01:20:36.120
to get a screen. Yeah, there you go. So it pulls up the screenshot here.

01:20:36.120 --> 01:20:41.080
And then I was looking at this interface and there's like no obvious way to save this, right?

01:20:41.080 --> 01:20:48.200
So there's like share, which is not really what I want to do. Delete, markup, whatever this means and close.

01:20:48.200 --> 01:20:51.240
So there was no like obvious way to save it. And I was like, okay.

01:20:51.240 --> 01:20:54.720
So like, is it saved already? Is it saved automatically? So when they,

01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:58.280
but they don't have the traffic lights for clothes. It's just like an X. Yeah. Don't worry about it.

01:20:58.280 --> 01:21:01.520
It's really, really good UI design. It's weird.

01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:05.000
I didn't even notice that part. That's good though. Yeah.

01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:09.560
Anyway, I was like, okay. Well, did it save somewhere here? I'll just open Finder and I'll find out.

01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:13.760
But my Finder wasn't like that. It was like this. So I opened Finder.

01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:17.680
Wait, what? Is it behind the screen? And then I was like, okay.

01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:21.840
Did it open? Here, new Finder window. But it didn't do it like that.

01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:26.000
It did it like behind it again. So I was like, what?

01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:29.080
What? But I can move this.

01:21:29.080 --> 01:21:33.000
Hold on. If I click on it twice, first you have to click on a window

01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:37.840
to make it the focus window. Oh. Then you have to click again in order to move it.

01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:40.720
And then I was like, okay, Finder's, sorry, it's behind this.

01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:45.560
And then I, oh man, I ran into a really funny one.

01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:50.800
So I was able to, oh, I forget. I was able, did I, I think did I screen record this?

01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:54.800
I was able to edit the text in this window

01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:58.320
unless I had this one as the focus.

01:21:58.320 --> 01:22:02.920
I forget. But basically I could interact with a window behind it

01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:07.640
except when I couldn't. And so it's just, and what's funny

01:22:07.640 --> 01:22:11.400
is that this one, this screenshot preview, it's like an app.

01:22:11.400 --> 01:22:15.200
Like you can, you can mark up a screenshot and you can share and you can do this stuff.

01:22:15.200 --> 01:22:18.720
But it also isn't an app because if you look up at the top bar,

01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:23.800
it's still Safari up here. So I cannot quit this app

01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:27.600
by going up here. That's what Apple calls a preview window

01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:32.360
that stays on top of other Windows. Couldn't tell you why they do that. I mean, yeah, that's a feature in Windows as well.

01:22:32.360 --> 01:22:35.680
They just don't use it very often because it's incredibly annoying.

01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:39.800
Yeah. It's really, it's a really bad experience.

01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:42.800
Well, what it is is it's an inconsistent experience.

01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:48.080
A lot of people are saying that you don't have to click twice, but I mean, I've seen him do it like a million times.

01:22:48.080 --> 01:22:53.840
And when he tries to select it the first time, literally nothing happened. So I'm not sure maybe that's a configurable thing.

01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:56.920
Maybe it's depending on where you click.

01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:59.960
Cause I'll usually go for the bar and I'll want to move something.

01:22:59.960 --> 01:23:04.440
And it looks like I have to make it the focus and then click again.

01:23:04.440 --> 01:23:09.240
It doesn't, I know this. Yeah, Bonkey's is saying I haven't clicked twice in ever.

01:23:09.240 --> 01:23:13.120
I mean, you guys just watched me do it. So. And I have watched, to be clear.

01:23:13.120 --> 01:23:16.160
Yeah. Obviously he is clicking twice. We've seen him click twice,

01:23:16.160 --> 01:23:21.040
but I've seen him try to click once and it doesn't do anything. So, yeah.

01:23:21.040 --> 01:23:25.280
So we'll- No, it's Pebcac error, but you guys, sorry, we need, why?

01:23:25.280 --> 01:23:29.400
You guys literally watched me try to drag it there. Like I did try to do it and it didn't work

01:23:29.400 --> 01:23:33.480
and I had to go back and get it and move it. Maybe it's clicking on the name of the window.

01:23:34.660 --> 01:23:38.080
Maybe. So you can't click just anywhere on the bar. You have to click right on the name.

01:23:38.080 --> 01:23:42.240
Maybe there's a particular spot. This is one that, this is one that like needs

01:23:42.240 --> 01:23:45.240
more investigation, but I've definitely run into it. Okay.

01:23:45.240 --> 01:23:50.640
Yeah, yeah. Apparently command shift four is like snipping tool

01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:55.640
where you can select a portion of it. Well, that's why I said part of my problem was I listened to Alex who's a new Mac user.

01:23:55.640 --> 01:24:01.840
So he said five. Command shift, no, he said three. So command shift five is also pretty good.

01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:05.040
That brings up like screen capture, which is built into macOS.

01:24:05.040 --> 01:24:10.880
That's cool. How is it even possible that screen capture

01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:14.240
is not built into Windows? Yeah. Yeah, no, that's genuinely cool.

01:24:14.280 --> 01:24:17.280
How is that even possible?

01:24:17.280 --> 01:24:21.600
Every Windows user is just OBS-pilled. Like unbelievable.

01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:25.040
They should not have to be. It's like one of the first apps I install on my computer now.

01:24:25.040 --> 01:24:30.040
OBS's interface is so obtuse compared to,

01:24:31.320 --> 01:24:35.080
you know, something slick and built in. No, that genuinely like looks really nice.

01:24:35.080 --> 01:24:38.560
Yeah. That's cool. Like it's unreal. I like it.

01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:42.040
Urban Ferver says I think it's built into Windows 11 now.

01:24:42.040 --> 01:24:46.240
I'm gonna have to check. I have not seen an obvious place for it.

01:24:46.240 --> 01:24:50.520
Someone says Windows G. Is that, isn't that the game bar?

01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:54.600
Hold on. Yes, it's built into the game bar.

01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:58.600
Oh my God. I hate the game bar. Literally the game bar is so horrible

01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:02.160
that I would never want to use it. It's also Windows Alt-R.

01:25:02.160 --> 01:25:05.720
Windows Alt-R, yeah. Windows Alt-R.

01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:08.840
I use Windows shift S all the time

01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:13.040
for ticking screenshots too. I think it's working. Well, where's the interface for this?

01:25:13.040 --> 01:25:17.920
I don't see it at all. Oh my God, you have to wait, no?

01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:21.040
How do I? If you hit Windows R again.

01:25:21.040 --> 01:25:24.280
How the hell do I like interact with this thing?

01:25:24.280 --> 01:25:26.600
You don't. Well, that's stupid.

01:25:27.480 --> 01:25:31.400
Just stop the recording with the same shortcut. I click the stop recording button and it's just gone.

01:25:31.400 --> 01:25:34.800
I'm assuming it's in videos now. Sorry, was it Windows Alt-R?

01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:38.880
I think that's the recording one. Windows shift R. Windows, no, Windows Alt-R.

01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:43.200
Yeah, Windows Alt-R and it just, then it just goes, how the hell do you configure it?

01:25:44.440 --> 01:25:48.520
Recording. So mine worked, yeah.

01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:52.120
Just when you click stop, it just goes to your videos folder and it captures.

01:25:52.120 --> 01:25:55.160
Man, is Windows search ever useless?

01:25:55.160 --> 01:25:59.360
That feels a little clunky. Searching for recording yields.

01:25:59.360 --> 01:26:02.680
Record audio when I record a game. You capture mouse cursor in game.

01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:06.280
Game captures maximum recording length. Fix some problems with the game bar settings.

01:26:06.280 --> 01:26:10.600
Okay, game bar settings I think is maybe what I was looking for.

01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:16.040
Help with game bar. Looks like no. Oh my God, why is this so hard to find?

01:26:16.040 --> 01:26:21.120
Stop. I love computers. Windows G. Okay, so can I configure it here?

01:26:21.120 --> 01:26:24.560
Settings. Oh, don't do that.

01:26:25.480 --> 01:26:29.200
Settings. Hello. Capture.

01:26:29.200 --> 01:26:32.200
Settings, maybe. Oh, was that the settings?

01:26:32.200 --> 01:26:35.960
Did I make the settings go away? Did I click?

01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:39.000
No. Settings is what you recorded last time, actually.

01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:42.520
Settings. Seriously. Oh no, that's what it will record.

01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:47.640
Yeah, I'm trying to click this and I can't. No, no, no, no, no. That is not a settings button.

01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:51.160
It's because the window below you, what you're going to record is settings.

01:26:51.160 --> 01:26:55.080
Like mine says the perpetual Wansho live stream document. Oh, hilarious.

01:26:55.080 --> 01:27:00.720
That, wow. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, you just, yeah.

01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:06.000
Gaining features. This is horrible. Why is this so hard to just configure?

01:27:06.040 --> 01:27:09.440
Someone said it's built into Snipping Tool. Oh, settings in the bar at the top,

01:27:09.440 --> 01:27:14.080
top right-hand corner of the bar. Yeah, I know, I found it. That's it right here, but it's not in there.

01:27:14.080 --> 01:27:17.960
Like there's no configuration for screen recording.

01:27:19.480 --> 01:27:21.440
How is this so stupid?

01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:27.840
Oh no. It's like people don't use these products, you know?

01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:31.120
Okay, so. Windows Shift R is the better one.

01:27:31.120 --> 01:27:34.440
Isn't that what we just did? Snipping Tool. Oh, yeah, no, no, Snipping Tool can do.

01:27:34.440 --> 01:27:40.160
No, but Snipping Tool is record. Okay, settings? Yeah, I haven't played around with Snipping Tool much lately.

01:27:40.160 --> 01:27:43.520
Been a Sharex guy for a while. Here we go.

01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:48.040
Okay, HDR Color Corrector. Okay, this has some stuff in it.

01:27:48.040 --> 01:27:52.480
Where the devil do I like change any encoding settings or anything?

01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:58.060
I think that's a no. Oh, okay.

01:28:00.040 --> 01:28:05.480
Yeah, this could be better on Windows as well. Like again, I've said this a lot of times

01:28:05.480 --> 01:28:10.760
and for some reason it doesn't work, but I'm gonna say it again just for fun.

01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:13.840
Just because I have a bunch of gripes about macOS

01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:17.720
does not mean, in fact, that I hate hot dogs.

01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:21.320
Or actually, no, it doesn't mean I like hot dogs. I might hate everything.

01:28:21.320 --> 01:28:24.640
Everything might be terrible. Everything is awful.

01:28:27.040 --> 01:28:30.440
So yeah, this is something that could obviously be better

01:28:30.440 --> 01:28:31.960
on the Windows side of things.

01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:36.880
All right, what else we got here?

01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:41.160
Oh dude, the fact that the mac App Store

01:28:41.160 --> 01:28:46.160
and the Safari Extension Store are jumbled together

01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:49.720
is mind blowing to me. That sounds horrible.

01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:54.160
I searched for Keeper in the App Store and it came up with a Safari Extension

01:28:54.160 --> 01:28:55.760
and a desktop application.

01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:03.480
Are you kidding me? Is that that bad? Yeah, that's really stupid.

01:29:03.480 --> 01:29:07.880
Especially because it wasn't obvious. Okay, I was gonna say, is it clearly delineated?

01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:12.360
Like one of them was obviously for Safari and the other one was just like Keeper.

01:29:12.360 --> 01:29:15.480
I was like, okay, so I've got Keeper and Keeper for Safari.

01:29:15.480 --> 01:29:20.160
What does that even mean? Solve that with just like a pretty simple tagging system.

01:29:20.160 --> 01:29:24.320
Yeah. It seems easy to solve. Yeah, definitely. Not that they've done it, but.

01:29:24.320 --> 01:29:28.480
Yeah, it seems very, very solvable. Yeah.

01:29:28.480 --> 01:29:32.400
Oh man, volume adjustment doesn't work on my external display.

01:29:32.400 --> 01:29:36.080
Definitely need a little bit more diagnosis there,

01:29:36.080 --> 01:29:39.840
but literally doesn't work with my scroll wheel on my keyboard.

01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:43.080
Doesn't work with the volume adjuster in the corner.

01:29:43.080 --> 01:29:46.960
Like it's there, but it's just grayed out. It's kind of like when you connect to a Bluetooth speaker

01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:51.200
and it just kind of maxes it out assuming that you'll do volume control on the external device,

01:29:51.200 --> 01:29:54.240
except that configuring volume level

01:29:54.240 --> 01:29:58.200
on the like nipple on the bottom of my monitor is not very convenient for me

01:29:58.200 --> 01:30:02.280
because I use my monitor's built-in speakers. Very annoying.

01:30:02.280 --> 01:30:06.360
Some other people in chat are saying they have some issues

01:30:06.360 --> 01:30:10.040
with that as well. Apparently I need DisplayBuddy to fix some of my issues.

01:30:10.040 --> 01:30:14.440
I'm gonna write down DisplayBuddy here. Why do you have to install so many programs?

01:30:14.440 --> 01:30:17.720
Right? I thought it just works. Doesn't it just work?

01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:20.760
I thought it just works, right? Doesn't it just work, Dan?

01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:23.920
Isn't that Todd Howard? Oh my God, paste is plain text

01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:28.960
is not a right click context menu option. You have to press and I kid you not.

01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:32.320
Command, Alt, Shift, V. What?

01:30:32.320 --> 01:30:35.400
No. It's also apparently not supported everywhere.

01:30:35.400 --> 01:30:38.640
So there's a horrible terminal workaround that I found on Reddit.

01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:43.680
So when in full-plane chat, I lost their message

01:30:43.680 --> 01:30:48.560
but they mentioned that like this segment was painful because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:52.680
and no Mac users use Safari. What are you even talking about?

01:30:52.680 --> 01:30:56.840
Safari 23, Safari was the second most used web browser

01:30:56.840 --> 01:31:02.200
and the amount of people that have Macs versus other types of PCs is like way lower.

01:31:02.200 --> 01:31:06.520
So as far as my understanding goes, an actually huge percentage of Mac users use Safari.

01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:10.120
It's really, really, really interesting

01:31:10.120 --> 01:31:15.120
to hear people say no one this thing that I don't do.

01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:20.120
Yeah. I guarantee you that if no one was using Safari

01:31:20.120 --> 01:31:23.720
on the desktop. Safari mobile, interesting point.

01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:28.240
Absolutely. Yeah, Safari mobile is definitely a thing but people definitely use Safari.

01:31:28.240 --> 01:31:33.440
Don't kid yourself. People just, many people just use whatever

01:31:33.440 --> 01:31:37.080
the included apps are on their computer or phone or whatever.

01:31:37.080 --> 01:31:41.680
Like why do you think Internet Explorer in spite of being such a steaming pile of garbage

01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:45.600
for so many years held onto its market share? Deal has like 10%.

01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:49.240
Cause people just use whatever's in front of them.

01:31:49.240 --> 01:31:52.960
Do not kid yourself. People use Safari.

01:31:55.440 --> 01:32:01.320
All right, what else we got here? No, it's desktop users. Apparently almost 12% of desktop user market share is Safari.

01:32:02.480 --> 01:32:07.480
Yeah, that's such a non-take that people don't use it.

01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:14.640
Oh man. Middle click, press to get like a scroll thing

01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:17.760
when you move your mouse and scroll. Not a thing.

01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:23.240
Such a downer. That's annoying, I use that a lot. I use that all the time.

01:32:23.240 --> 01:32:26.520
So a lot of very conflicting stats on browser market share.

01:32:26.520 --> 01:32:30.360
I don't know, I don't know which one of these is right but the scale a lot. Someone definitely uses it.

01:32:30.360 --> 01:32:33.320
That's all you need to know. Someone definitely uses it.

01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:40.240
Yeah, so I mean, I'm gonna find all kinds of things I like maybe, eventually.

01:32:40.240 --> 01:32:45.560
I haven't really found any yet. But I'm sure something, I'm gonna like something about it.

01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:51.040
Definitely like the hardware. Like the MacBook itself is great.

01:32:51.040 --> 01:32:57.560
Always has been really, to be honest. PC laptops have been struggling.

01:32:57.560 --> 01:33:03.640
Yeah. Forever, basically compared to MacBooks. HP's got a really cool one that uses the same.

01:33:03.640 --> 01:33:07.960
Those fingerprints on that screen are like actually bothering me. Yeah, I know, right?

01:33:07.960 --> 01:33:10.920
It's not even a touch screen. Why are they there? Watch this.

01:33:13.320 --> 01:33:17.120
I'll clean it after. Steve is rolling his grave because of that.

01:33:17.120 --> 01:33:20.640
Yeah, I know, right? Maybe that's why they're not touch screens.

01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:27.440
Oh yeah, HP has a super cool machine that uses the same processor as the new framework desktop.

01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:31.880
Strix Halo from AMD. That thing looks sick and a framework investment disclosure

01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:35.000
but man, that HP machine looks amazing.

01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:39.560
It's one of only three devices I've seen so far with Strix Halo and as far as I can tell,

01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:44.360
I just love Strix Halo and everything should just have Strix Halo now.

01:33:44.400 --> 01:33:50.160
As long as you don't mind the price, it's very, very expensive.

01:33:50.160 --> 01:33:53.640
It's, I don't know, actually.

01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:57.560
I saw it at CES, but that doesn't mean that it's out.

01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:02.640
Yeah. No, reviews just dropped like earlier.

01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:06.880
Strix, Z2, Zbook, Zbook, Strix Halo.

01:34:08.160 --> 01:34:14.360
I'm not seeing anywhere to buy it yet. Does anyone know if you can actually like buy this thing yet?

01:34:14.360 --> 01:34:17.680
What is it called again? Let me see.

01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:21.520
Zbook Ultra 14 GI?

01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:25.560
What a name. I know, right?

01:34:27.200 --> 01:34:31.040
Zbook Ultra 14. Here it is, mobile workstation PC.

01:34:31.040 --> 01:34:36.400
Coming soon. Yeah, not yet, but this thing looks freaking awesome.

01:34:36.400 --> 01:34:41.280
Like it's, what is this? I scrolled and it opened a freaking video.

01:34:41.280 --> 01:34:45.080
No, oh, I must have accidentally clicked 50NPU,

01:34:45.080 --> 01:34:50.080
top horizon AI max, up to four terabytes of storage.

01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:54.760
128 gigs unified memory, let's go. Dude, this thing looks incredible.

01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:57.800
It's super thin. The battery life is actually decent.

01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:01.200
And according to Alex, the performance is still pretty okay.

01:35:01.200 --> 01:35:07.000
Looking comparatively to USB ports, it looks like they didn't 100% prioritize thinness,

01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:12.680
which I'm actually kind of down with. It doesn't look thick. Well, they needed, I mean, this thing will do up to 120 watts.

01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:16.840
Yeah. Strix halos. So I think they landed, don't quote me on this,

01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:19.840
I think they landed around 75 for this chassis.

01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:21.880
Really, Tom's hardware says $2,700.

01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:28.240
It's not gonna be cheap. I mean, that's the thing is I've seen a lot of criticism

01:35:28.240 --> 01:35:35.360
toward framework investment disclosure for their pricing, just about the desktop in general.

01:35:35.360 --> 01:35:39.280
And I've seen people dunking on them for the pricing, but I think the thing that people are missing here

01:35:39.280 --> 01:35:42.760
is that this LP-DDR5 that they're using

01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:47.600
in this configuration with Strix halos, LP-DDR5 or LP-DDR5X, I can't remember.

01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:51.640
It's funny, because you have to say that to show potential bias or whatever,

01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:56.440
but you having to say that is probably the most valuable thing to framework.

01:35:56.440 --> 01:35:59.640
You haven't watched the video, have you? Nerov says that point blank.

01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:02.760
It's like, oh, that's great. The more disclosures, the better.

01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:06.520
It's honestly, the consistency of it is insane.

01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:11.160
If any other laptop gets any talking point ever,

01:36:11.160 --> 01:36:15.040
framework also gets a talking point. It's like, holy crap.

01:36:16.160 --> 01:36:21.600
Yeah, now that they make a desktop, I think we legitimately have to kind of talk about

01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:24.920
how to deal with this, because I can't do a framework

01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:29.200
disclosure every single time I talk about a laptop or a desktop computer.

01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:35.880
But why don't we save that for the actual framework announcement section of the WAN Show, though?

01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:40.320
Anyway, the point is people are giving framework a hard time about the desktop,

01:36:40.320 --> 01:36:44.600
but they're actually being extremely fair about their pricing for the upgrades

01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:47.600
and their pricing in general. Like this laptop, we're looking at, what did you say?

01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:50.920
It starts at $2,800? 27, I think somewhere around there.

01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:54.480
Yeah, the framework desktop, actually, let's see,

01:36:54.480 --> 01:36:57.640
is their site up? Is it frame.work?

01:36:57.640 --> 01:37:01.440
Yeah. Desktop, here we go.

01:37:03.160 --> 01:37:04.120
Pre-order now.

01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:10.680
Yeah, this thing starts at like $1,600. And yes, it doesn't have a display,

01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:18.320
and yes, you have to add your own storage and OS, but like it's still pretty good, all things considered.

01:37:19.040 --> 01:37:23.160
Yeah. Okay, what are we supposed to do, Mr. Dan?

01:37:24.360 --> 01:37:27.600
Let's explain merge messages and do some announcements. Merge messages.

01:37:27.600 --> 01:37:31.760
Today is a very special day to send a merge message.

01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:37.320
This is. We got some respite in terms of tariffs

01:37:37.320 --> 01:37:42.320
from our friends down in the States,

01:37:42.440 --> 01:37:50.280
and we are making the absolute most of that by moving up our schedule for our annual tax

01:37:50.440 --> 01:37:54.840
right off sale event. Have you ever wanted to bother, Dan?

01:37:54.840 --> 01:38:01.800
That's right, friends. You can save on our inventory over stock.

01:38:01.800 --> 01:38:05.640
I'm sorry, this isn't the Lyme day sale. This isn't the Linus inventory management experience.

01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:11.640
This is the tax right off sale. You can save on our tax right offs on, well, inventory,

01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:17.120
that we have that we need to get rid of, and you can avoid any future price increases

01:38:17.120 --> 01:38:21.160
due to future tariffs potentially asterisk.

01:38:21.160 --> 01:38:25.800
We have no idea what's gonna happen because everything is topsy-turvy and unpredictable these days.

01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:28.960
And if our costs do go up substantially,

01:38:28.960 --> 01:38:32.000
some items could be price adjusted in the future,

01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:35.720
but what they definitely are not is price adjusted today.

01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:40.520
If you place an order today, you will receive that order at the price

01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:46.880
that you paid for it, and to celebrate the tax right off sale.

01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:51.440
We are tax writing off some shipping costs. That's right, my friends.

01:38:51.440 --> 01:38:55.040
If your order exceeds 175 US dollars,

01:38:55.040 --> 01:38:57.880
you will get free shipping to Timbuktu

01:38:58.840 --> 01:39:03.240
or anywhere, really. Yeah. Yeah, you don't have to be in Timbuktu.

01:39:03.240 --> 01:39:06.720
There's lots of places. It took me a long time to realize that that was an actual real place.

01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:10.280
I know, right? I just made up. I had a bit of a cry on the floor.

01:39:10.280 --> 01:39:14.040
Oh, wow. Yeah, no, Timbuktu, real place. So guys.

01:39:14.040 --> 01:39:15.720
Hey, put on your shirt. Oh, yes.

01:39:17.160 --> 01:39:18.040
I got you already.

01:39:21.200 --> 01:39:25.320
So now is as good a time as any to place an order on lttstore.com,

01:39:25.320 --> 01:39:30.680
and if you're gonna do it, why don't you send a merch message? Merch messages are the way to interact with the show.

01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:33.960
We don't do Twitch bits. We don't do super chats. We do merch messages.

01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:38.120
All you gotta do to send one is go to lttstore.com, add an item to your cart.

01:39:38.120 --> 01:39:42.920
Like, say, for example, the tech bro vest, which is on sale for,

01:39:45.240 --> 01:39:46.280
I forget.

01:39:50.080 --> 01:39:54.920
I don't know, whatever. I think it's 50% off. Like, I think it's very aggressively priced.

01:39:54.920 --> 01:40:00.160
So the tech bro vest is on super sale, or you could pick up one of these

01:40:00.160 --> 01:40:04.720
probably never to be reordered, Mac Address button-up shirts,

01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:08.320
which are also deeply discounted. You add one of those to your cart,

01:40:08.320 --> 01:40:11.560
and a little merch message box will pop up. That'll go to producer Dan,

01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:15.280
who will reply to your message with his broken fingers.

01:40:15.280 --> 01:40:20.600
He's already, a lot of people figured out the tax write-off sale before we talked about it on the show.

01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:24.160
So he'll reply to it, or he will curate it for me and Luke to talk about,

01:40:24.280 --> 01:40:28.200
or he will send it to someone who can get you an answer, or whatever the case may be.

01:40:28.200 --> 01:40:31.440
All the deals that you're supposed to say were written out on the dock,

01:40:31.440 --> 01:40:35.040
and you got some of them wrong. Well, where are they? On the dock. I don't see them.

01:40:35.040 --> 01:40:39.960
Right in the announcement as a tax write-off section. Oh yeah, I see it. Well, I didn't scroll far enough.

01:40:39.960 --> 01:40:44.680
So it's, what are we looking at? Oh, 60% off the tech bro vest,

01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:49.680
and 50% off the Mac Address Oxford shirts.

01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:54.680
This deal literally dropped right now. We've also got $25 mystery hoodies,

01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:59.480
$10 mystery t-shirts, over 60% off the off-site laptop bag.

01:40:59.480 --> 01:41:05.720
That is a killer deal. It's a really, really nice laptop bag.

01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:10.160
25% off the more comprehensive MCM essential solution

01:41:10.160 --> 01:41:15.880
with 60% off the MCM starter solutions. We have 10 bucks off the Scribe driver bolt action pen,

01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:20.200
and wow, you get a free shaft extension with your stubby screwdriver.

01:41:21.120 --> 01:41:25.200
We don't want you to feel inadequate. Oh, what else is there for us to say?

01:41:25.200 --> 01:41:31.900
Yeah, free shipping orders over $175, and we're happy to announce that more commuter backpacks

01:41:31.900 --> 01:41:34.960
will be available to ship starting next week.

01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:41.040
So that could be an easy way for you to reach that tax write-off sale shipping threshold.

01:41:41.040 --> 01:41:44.200
Nice. Nice. Should we do the other announcement

01:41:44.200 --> 01:41:49.040
after merch messages? I think so. A lot of people figured that one out before we,

01:41:49.040 --> 01:41:53.400
before we actually talked about it on the show as well, commuter backpacks are selling like...

01:41:53.400 --> 01:41:58.480
Yeah. The hotcakes. Yeah, yeah. You guys, yeah, you guys figured it out.

01:41:58.480 --> 01:42:00.760
Well, good for you.

01:42:02.280 --> 01:42:06.600
Anywho, yeah, my loss, your gain, let's do some merch messages.

01:42:06.600 --> 01:42:12.040
Sure, I've got a couple for you here. Finally able to catch the WAN Show live.

01:42:12.040 --> 01:42:16.080
Oh, wait, hold on one second. Mystery t-shirt is one of the best selling ones.

01:42:16.080 --> 01:42:20.800
Crystal pointed out, also there's a bunch of cool stuff in the bonus bin.

01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:24.240
I'm not gonna tell you what's in there, but she's right.

01:42:24.240 --> 01:42:26.960
There's some really cool stuff in the bonus bin.

01:42:29.400 --> 01:42:32.520
Jamon says backpack enamel pin is $250.

01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:36.280
Yes, it comes with a backpack. That's a meme.

01:42:36.280 --> 01:42:39.960
Don't worry about it. Whoa, the bonus bin. What do you call them?

01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:43.840
We don't have to show it, but wow. Product, top sell items.

01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:47.480
Yeah, so the bonus bin is stuff that you can get for free with your order.

01:42:49.160 --> 01:42:53.040
These are not cheap things. Okay, cool, have fun.

01:42:53.040 --> 01:42:57.600
Yeah, neat, right? Good luck. Yeah. Neat, good stuff, right?

01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:01.200
Tax write off. Yeah, tax write off sale.

01:43:01.200 --> 01:43:04.360
Time to make some money by writing off taxes.

01:43:04.360 --> 01:43:08.680
Yes, but pure profit. Pure profit, okay, Mr. Dan, hit us.

01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:12.720
Sure, finally able to catch a live WAN Show again.

01:43:12.720 --> 01:43:17.880
What is the difference between NVIDIA and AMD GPUs that make NVIDIA so much better at ray tracing?

01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:21.920
Well, they have dedicated hardware for ray tracing

01:43:21.920 --> 01:43:26.280
and they are a solid entire generation ahead of AMD

01:43:26.280 --> 01:43:34.120
in terms of developing their design. NVIDIA was the one that, yep, they're the tip of the spear

01:43:34.480 --> 01:43:37.600
in terms of pushing ray tracing into the mainstream.

01:43:37.600 --> 01:43:41.480
They worked with developers. They worked to build the hardware that can do it

01:43:41.480 --> 01:43:44.680
back when they launched the RTX 20 series.

01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:49.400
So like when did the RTX 2080 launch? Like that was 1,000 years ago.

01:43:49.400 --> 01:43:52.840
September 20th, 2018, NVIDIA has been beating

01:43:52.840 --> 01:43:56.240
this ray tracing drum for over six years now

01:43:56.240 --> 01:44:02.120
and AMD is playing catch up and that's what happens when someone else goes and they innovate a feature

01:44:02.120 --> 01:44:09.480
and you kind of go, oh, crap. And you sort of implement it mostly in,

01:44:09.480 --> 01:44:12.840
I don't want to say software because they were definitely still using hardware

01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:18.840
to do it in the early generations, but essentially using more general purpose compute

01:44:18.840 --> 01:44:24.400
in order to handle ray tracing, then you kind of, you build some ray tracing hardware,

01:44:24.400 --> 01:44:28.840
but it's your first crack at it. It just takes time to catch up and NVIDIA was all in

01:44:28.840 --> 01:44:32.880
on ray tracing right out of the gate with the 20 series

01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:35.880
and that has paid off for them for gamers

01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:40.960
that appreciate ray traced lighting, which isn't all gamers, but certainly is some gamers.

01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:46.600
I talked to some folks that are like, oh, I think it looks worse. I hate the lower FPS and that's totally their prerogative,

01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:50.720
but I talked to other people that are like, I won't play a game without ray tracing on.

01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:55.640
That's a thing. And you don't have to agree, but you do have to understand and acknowledge

01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:58.600
that that's a thing. And for some people, it has a lot of value.

01:45:02.320 --> 01:45:07.560
Oh yeah, more merge messages. Sorry. If no say to four, why no U.2?

01:45:07.560 --> 01:45:13.440
Install on motherboards for expanded storage. M.2 drives waste limited board surface area.

01:45:13.440 --> 01:45:18.560
They're okay for low profile laptops, but desktop cases have room for mounting hard drives.

01:45:20.200 --> 01:45:23.200
That's a good question.

01:45:23.200 --> 01:45:26.440
Why don't we just mount drives in drive bays

01:45:26.440 --> 01:45:30.560
and use cable interfaces? Well, one of the reasons that we wouldn't want to do that

01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:34.400
is say to cables are cheap. U.2 cables are not.

01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:40.400
It's a really high speed signal and putting it directly on the board

01:45:40.400 --> 01:45:43.480
means that the trace length is gonna be much lower.

01:45:43.480 --> 01:45:49.840
If you were to try it, I think the last time that U.2 was really present

01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:54.240
in like mainstream consumer boards

01:45:54.240 --> 01:45:59.880
was like PCIe gen three. Did we ever see gen four,

01:45:59.880 --> 01:46:04.120
like U.2 really take off on consumer boards? Can you guys think of anything?

01:46:04.120 --> 01:46:10.200
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong guys, but it's an expensive connector.

01:46:10.200 --> 01:46:16.040
It's an expensive cable because it's a super, super high speed interface.

01:46:16.040 --> 01:46:21.040
And the commodity consumer computer industry guys,

01:46:22.360 --> 01:46:26.160
we're talking fractions of a penny of savings sometimes

01:46:26.160 --> 01:46:30.440
that influence design decisions. SATA was cheap.

01:46:30.440 --> 01:46:33.920
SATA was cheaper than IDE to implement

01:46:33.920 --> 01:46:37.920
because it required so many fewer conductors. It's like, where does innovation come from?

01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:43.800
It comes from cost savings. M.2 is relatively affordable to implement

01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:47.520
because the trace lengths are so low in order to maintain those data speeds.

01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:51.040
So I would say that U.2 is just simply,

01:46:51.040 --> 01:46:54.240
simply not happening on consumer.

01:46:54.240 --> 01:46:57.560
And the only reason to have a U.2 drive

01:46:57.560 --> 01:47:02.520
would be if you need like a shed load of NAND flash chips.

01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:06.080
Otherwise you can cram as many as you would want

01:47:06.080 --> 01:47:11.980
on an M.2, like you could buy eight terabyte M.2s. The only impediment to doing that is the cost.

01:47:11.980 --> 01:47:15.280
So are you gonna tell me that people need

01:47:15.280 --> 01:47:19.640
a 40 gigabit or a 40 gigabit, a 40 terabyte drive?

01:47:20.480 --> 01:47:23.780
Like no, they're not gonna be able to afford that anyway. So what are we even talking about?

01:47:23.780 --> 01:47:27.920
We don't need to build a 2.5 inch drive for this.

01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:31.480
And they do exist. You could buy an enterprise drive and you could put it in your computer.

01:47:31.480 --> 01:47:39.100
You could put a card into your PCIe slot and you could run like a U.3 off to your card or whatever.

01:47:39.100 --> 01:47:43.020
Or you can get an M.2 adapter. You can get a little M.2 carrier card

01:47:43.020 --> 01:47:46.500
and you can put a U.2 or U.3 interface on there and run that off to a drive.

01:47:46.500 --> 01:47:51.300
I do that. We kinda knew those cables were gonna be brutal right away

01:47:51.300 --> 01:47:56.860
because the second you feel it, it's like, ah, it's expensive. Yeah, but I just don't think it makes a ton of sense

01:47:56.860 --> 01:48:00.100
for consumers, especially when you consider the additional costs.

01:48:00.620 --> 01:48:04.300
Next one, Dan? Oh, it's only two in the middle.

01:48:04.300 --> 01:48:07.460
And I think I'm gonna move into sponsors now.

01:48:07.460 --> 01:48:11.260
No, we have an announcement. We have one more announcement.

01:48:11.260 --> 01:48:14.500
Oh! First of all, I think I covered this in the pre-show,

01:48:14.500 --> 01:48:17.700
but we are doing the hireings.

01:48:17.700 --> 01:48:22.100
I just wanted to remind people to check out the Careers page on LinusMiniGroup.com.

01:48:22.100 --> 01:48:25.900
There's a variety of positions at Creator Warehouse

01:48:25.900 --> 01:48:30.420
and LinusMiniGroup.com. There's gonna be a project manager role put up

01:48:30.420 --> 01:48:34.260
for a full plane in a bit. It's not up yet, but it's coming.

01:48:34.260 --> 01:48:39.260
At Creator Warehouse, they're doing a part-time photographer and photo editor, a full-time graphic designer

01:48:39.260 --> 01:48:43.260
and a full-time supply chain manager. All the LinusMiniGroup roles are full-time.

01:48:43.260 --> 01:48:46.260
There's two test technicians that we're hiring.

01:48:46.260 --> 01:48:49.260
So there's actually five positions. Same job description. Yeah.

01:48:49.260 --> 01:48:52.260
Yeah. One full-time logistics coordinator,

01:48:52.260 --> 01:48:56.260
one full-time content manager, one full-time logistics coordinator,

01:48:56.260 --> 01:49:00.260
one full-time content writer for the Labs and potentially other technical content,

01:49:00.260 --> 01:49:05.260
things like ShortCircuit, stuff like that, and a full-time testing coordinator.

01:49:05.260 --> 01:49:08.260
So go check those out. You want a link for the job posting?

01:49:08.260 --> 01:49:11.260
No, they're meming. Okay, how's it gonna say?

01:49:11.260 --> 01:49:14.260
Rysaw was meming. Rysaw's trying to trigger Luke.

01:49:14.260 --> 01:49:18.260
Can I get a link to that job posting? That's the barrier of entry.

01:49:18.260 --> 01:49:22.260
He immediately followed with slash s. They knew how triggered you were gonna be.

01:49:22.260 --> 01:49:25.260
He immediately bothered me so much.

01:49:25.260 --> 01:49:28.260
Luke's turning red. I know. He was shaking from here.

01:49:28.260 --> 01:49:33.260
He was so upset. For Luke, that is literally like the first IQ test

01:49:33.260 --> 01:49:36.260
that you need to pass to get a job at this company.

01:49:36.260 --> 01:49:40.260
There's a few, too, but that's an early fail.

01:49:40.260 --> 01:49:44.260
And the next one is that the Labs website

01:49:44.260 --> 01:49:47.260
has had a pretty major update. Oh, this is exciting.

01:49:47.260 --> 01:49:50.260
This is more of a topic. This is less of an announcement.

01:49:50.260 --> 01:49:53.260
Oh, okay. I think we're doing this topic then. I don't know, sure.

01:49:53.260 --> 01:49:57.260
Yeah, let's talk about the Labs website. It probably looks different.

01:49:57.260 --> 01:50:02.260
If you haven't seen it in a while, there's a lot of reasons why it's really cool.

01:50:02.260 --> 01:50:07.260
Let's start with the buttons. Well, what I'm gonna start with is that we had Dan,

01:50:07.260 --> 01:50:10.260
the leader of the Labs web team. Other different Dan.

01:50:10.260 --> 01:50:13.260
Yes. Not this Dan. Luke's Dan.

01:50:13.260 --> 01:50:17.260
Not Luke's Dan. Bird Dan.

01:50:17.260 --> 01:50:22.260
It's confusing. And it has little gifs showing off all the different features.

01:50:22.260 --> 01:50:25.260
And it's actually really well-written. So if you want to really dive into everything that changed,

01:50:25.260 --> 01:50:28.260
this is probably the way to do it, to be honest.

01:50:28.260 --> 01:50:31.260
But if you're lazy and you want us to just do it for you.

01:50:31.260 --> 01:50:34.260
Then we can do that. Here's the shoddier version.

01:50:34.260 --> 01:50:37.260
Yeah, what did you want to see? The buttons. Okay, these ones?

01:50:37.260 --> 01:50:41.260
Yeah. So this was, I believe, an idea from Sebastian

01:50:41.260 --> 01:50:46.260
that was iterated on by Dan. And I love it because what I believe it was Sebastian

01:50:46.260 --> 01:50:50.260
was pointing out is that the new categories page is fantastic.

01:50:50.260 --> 01:50:53.260
And he wanted to be surfaced more.

01:50:53.260 --> 01:50:56.260
So the idea was to put them down here.

01:50:56.260 --> 01:51:00.260
And it's kind of nice, in my opinion, because this shows off the color coding.

01:51:00.260 --> 01:51:03.260
So do you see the colors of all the buttons here?

01:51:03.260 --> 01:51:07.260
If you scroll down and you see the tags and the colored bars down here, they coordinate,

01:51:07.260 --> 01:51:11.260
which I think is genuinely actually pretty sweet.

01:51:11.260 --> 01:51:15.260
But the new comparison page. I'm going to go into GPUs, for example.

01:51:16.260 --> 01:51:20.260
Sorry, not comparison page. This is a new categories page.

01:51:20.260 --> 01:51:24.260
So now we have this. You can see all of the different stats in here.

01:51:24.260 --> 01:51:28.260
And you can filter by a wide variety of different things.

01:51:28.260 --> 01:51:31.260
So you could be like... How many slots or what kind of memory?

01:51:31.260 --> 01:51:34.260
How much memory if you want a decent sized frame buffer?

01:51:34.260 --> 01:51:39.260
I want a card that's going to fit in my fairly small form

01:51:39.260 --> 01:51:44.260
factor case that has, I don't know, yeah, this much memory.

01:51:44.260 --> 01:51:49.260
Okay, here's all the cards that the lab has tested. And that uses a power connector that doesn't light on fire.

01:51:49.260 --> 01:51:55.260
Yeah. So this is all the cards that fit that filter.

01:51:55.260 --> 01:51:59.260
Are the columns customizable? I don't think so.

01:51:59.260 --> 01:52:02.260
No, but I don't know.

01:52:02.260 --> 01:52:05.260
It is what it is. The compare bit over here, there you go.

01:52:05.260 --> 01:52:08.260
You've got your thing. Hey, look, it has a tool tip now. That's cool.

01:52:08.260 --> 01:52:11.260
It's fast. So you can add to comparison.

01:52:11.260 --> 01:52:14.260
I asked for that yesterday. And it's already done.

01:52:14.260 --> 01:52:17.260
Like near end of day too. Yeah.

01:52:17.260 --> 01:52:21.260
No, that's sick. So you can add to comparison bin from here, which is awesome.

01:52:21.260 --> 01:52:25.260
So, I mean, let's say this just narrowed it down to three things.

01:52:25.260 --> 01:52:30.260
I'm going to add the three top cards here. And then the comparison bin has also had...

01:52:30.260 --> 01:52:33.260
Oh, Dan, do you want to... Oh, yeah, there we go. Yep.

01:52:33.260 --> 01:52:38.260
The comparison bin has also had a big update. This is my favorite one out of everything.

01:52:38.260 --> 01:52:45.260
So, well, okay, you can see this now. If you have like a mixture of things, you can select which subset you want to see.

01:52:45.260 --> 01:52:49.260
Yeah. So if you added like power supplies and mice and whatever, you can do that.

01:52:49.260 --> 01:52:54.260
Click on detail comparison. And now the comparison bin looks like this, which is way nicer.

01:52:54.260 --> 01:52:59.260
Super film. The photos don't automatically like destroy the viewability of all the data right away,

01:52:59.260 --> 01:53:03.260
but you can show them if you want. So you can see all the different photos and even scroll through the different photos

01:53:03.260 --> 01:53:07.260
of the different products that you're viewing. Very cool. And then tuck those away when you don't want them.

01:53:08.260 --> 01:53:12.260
A feature that took some tweaking to really like make it right,

01:53:12.260 --> 01:53:16.260
but I'm super happy with personally, is the highlight differences button.

01:53:16.260 --> 01:53:21.260
So you can do this and then it shows you like what actually changes between them.

01:53:21.260 --> 01:53:25.260
Very cool. So like what do I need to like care about between these different cards?

01:53:25.260 --> 01:53:29.260
What's going to matter? What's going to change depending on what selection I have?

01:53:29.260 --> 01:53:32.260
You can see the graphs for all of them in here.

01:53:32.260 --> 01:53:36.260
The graphs are configurable as well as always.

01:53:36.260 --> 01:53:39.260
Yeah. It's good stuff. I think you can even, yes.

01:53:39.260 --> 01:53:43.260
So you can take one of the cards off or put it back on.

01:53:43.260 --> 01:53:46.260
So if you like, you know, don't want to reconfigure your entire comparison bin,

01:53:46.260 --> 01:53:49.260
but you're like, all right, I'm not going to get this one. It sucks or whatever.

01:53:49.260 --> 01:53:52.260
You can, you can uncheck that.

01:53:52.260 --> 01:53:57.260
Yeah. It's, it's pretty great. The search is a lot better now than it used to be.

01:53:57.260 --> 01:54:00.260
I'm trying to think of, of what I'm mixing.

01:54:00.260 --> 01:54:03.260
I'm probably missing things. I'm going to go to Dan's article to figure this out.

01:54:03.260 --> 01:54:06.260
It's going to be a ton of work for us to get like, you know,

01:54:06.260 --> 01:54:09.260
every card, you know, populated in here, you know,

01:54:09.260 --> 01:54:15.260
but the goal is still, and we have not deviated from this mission.

01:54:15.260 --> 01:54:21.260
The goal is still to turn the Labs website into just an absolutely incredible resource,

01:54:21.260 --> 01:54:27.260
whether you're buying something brand new, whether you're buying something off of Facebook marketplace to,

01:54:27.260 --> 01:54:32.260
to make it easy to make an informed decision.

01:54:32.260 --> 01:54:37.260
And there's been some setbacks along the way. There's definitely, you know, been some mistakes,

01:54:37.260 --> 01:54:41.260
but make no mistake Labs.

01:54:41.260 --> 01:54:44.260
We're still cooking. The Labs is still cooking.

01:54:44.260 --> 01:54:48.260
It's not finished, but it is absolutely still cooking.

01:54:48.260 --> 01:54:53.260
And we haven't lost sight of what the mission is and it's not to make money.

01:54:53.260 --> 01:54:58.260
It's to create an incredible resource for the tech community.

01:54:58.260 --> 01:55:03.260
And it's been very frustrating, I think, to see a narrative built

01:55:03.260 --> 01:55:07.260
that like Labs was somehow like a negative thing in some way.

01:55:07.260 --> 01:55:14.260
It was never meant to be a negative thing. We are human and we've made some mistakes, but man, is it ever coming along?

01:55:14.260 --> 01:55:17.260
Trying to make it cool, man. That is super cool.

01:55:17.260 --> 01:55:20.260
One more cool thing to point out. I think I somewhat mentioned these,

01:55:20.260 --> 01:55:24.260
but these, these product cards have been updated as well. You might remember earlier in the year,

01:55:24.260 --> 01:55:27.260
we added the, the, the like blog section to the right here.

01:55:28.260 --> 01:55:31.260
But the product cards over here have gotten an update as well.

01:55:31.260 --> 01:55:36.260
Very cool. And these, so now they don't just have the blurb.

01:55:36.260 --> 01:55:40.260
They also have the tags. This is another thing that went through a few iterations.

01:55:40.260 --> 01:55:44.260
There was an idea of just having the tags at one part at one point,

01:55:44.260 --> 01:55:48.260
but that didn't really, like it felt like something was not really there.

01:55:48.260 --> 01:55:51.260
So I think, I think Dan went through a couple of iterations

01:55:51.260 --> 01:55:55.260
and ended up on this one. I mean, I might be biased here,

01:55:55.260 --> 01:56:01.260
but I really like how this page looks and feels right now personally.

01:56:01.260 --> 01:56:05.260
Um, just even having all the categories listed here,

01:56:05.260 --> 01:56:08.260
there's, there's a sense of like, um,

01:56:08.260 --> 01:56:11.260
I feel, I feel a little guided. It feels full.

01:56:11.260 --> 01:56:14.260
It feels saturated. It feels good. There's stuff there.

01:56:14.260 --> 01:56:18.260
Um, you know, categories, you can still find them under here,

01:56:18.260 --> 01:56:21.260
but they're not tucked away anymore. They're, they're right here.

01:56:21.260 --> 01:56:24.260
You can see the color coding. It's right there. You can see the tags on here.

01:56:24.260 --> 01:56:29.260
So you can quickly identify if that one matters to you or not,

01:56:29.260 --> 01:56:33.260
but we're also not, I, I, we were having this debate on like,

01:56:33.260 --> 01:56:37.260
if we put too many tags, too much information on this section,

01:56:37.260 --> 01:56:40.260
it would almost dissuade people from.

01:56:40.260 --> 01:56:43.260
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:56:43.260 --> 01:56:46.260
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:56:46.260 --> 01:56:49.260
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:56:49.260 --> 01:56:52.260
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:56:52.260 --> 01:56:59.260
Yeah. So we were almost worried that by surfacing too much information on the like card view

01:56:59.260 --> 01:57:04.260
that it could, um, take away from what we want the site to do.

01:57:04.260 --> 01:57:08.260
Um, if people are like, Oh, you're just trying to like give people the click more.

01:57:08.260 --> 01:57:11.260
There are no ads on the site. Literally zero.

01:57:11.260 --> 01:57:15.260
And it's been like years. We, we gain nothing from keeping you here.

01:57:15.260 --> 01:57:18.260
We just actually want you to like find more information.

01:57:18.260 --> 01:57:24.260
We don't just want to surface level things. We're expecting that someone coming to the Labs website is looking for more and wants

01:57:24.260 --> 01:57:29.260
to go deeper. So we want to cater to that experience. Um, but anyways, I'm incredibly proud of this.

01:57:29.260 --> 01:57:32.260
I think the, the web team has done an extremely good job.

01:57:32.260 --> 01:57:36.260
I think the website looks fantastic. And we're hiring.

01:57:36.260 --> 01:57:39.260
It's time to, it's time to put even more resources.

01:57:39.260 --> 01:57:44.260
The web team is hiring. No, sorry, but the Labs team, the Labs team is hiring.

01:57:44.260 --> 01:57:51.260
Uh, CMD Karini asks, um, is the longterm plan to subsidize Labs content with LTT?

01:57:51.260 --> 01:57:59.260
Well, if it wasn't boy, have we ever deviated from the plan to the tune of seven figures.

01:57:59.260 --> 01:58:02.260
Yes. Millions. Yeah.

01:58:02.260 --> 01:58:06.260
Um, depending on how you calculated, it could be more than seven figures.

01:58:06.260 --> 01:58:09.260
Um, yes, definitely.

01:58:09.260 --> 01:58:12.260
And yes, dark rainbow, we want the Labs to succeed.

01:58:12.260 --> 01:58:17.260
And, uh, we are, we are extremely committed to helping the lab succeed.

01:58:17.260 --> 01:58:22.260
There's even little things like, I know this matters to like very few people, but I, I,

01:58:22.260 --> 01:58:28.260
I know this matters if you ask them to very few people, but I think it actually does matter.

01:58:28.260 --> 01:58:33.260
Um, like if I, if I move my mouse over this card, the little arrow in the corner turns

01:58:33.260 --> 01:58:37.260
and the, the brand and model gets underlined.

01:58:37.260 --> 01:58:42.260
And if I highlight over the plus, whoop, little nice design, little nice, little animation,

01:58:42.260 --> 01:58:45.260
like the site feels really smooth.

01:58:45.260 --> 01:58:51.260
There's when you, when you go into a, an article now, uh, like this section right here is going

01:58:51.260 --> 01:58:54.260
to go with you. Whoop.

01:58:54.260 --> 01:58:57.260
Like everything just feels really nice. I, I don't know.

01:58:57.260 --> 01:59:00.260
It's fast. It feels good. It looks good.

01:59:00.260 --> 01:59:07.260
I'm very happy with the lab site. Yeah. And it's, uh, the site's ready for a lot more product data.

01:59:07.260 --> 01:59:11.260
Yeah. Which is why we're, you know, hiring testers and hiring testing coordinators and the,

01:59:11.260 --> 01:59:14.260
we're getting the Labs. Uh, yeah, things are good.

01:59:14.260 --> 01:59:19.260
Krusty trombone asks, is there a timeline for new component categories like mainboards

01:59:19.260 --> 01:59:22.260
to be added right now? No.

01:59:22.260 --> 01:59:27.260
I think one of the big mistakes that we made, um, was to try to go too broad too fast.

01:59:27.260 --> 01:59:32.260
So right now we are laser focused on the peripherals that we have there now.

01:59:32.260 --> 01:59:40.260
Uh, power supplies, uh, CPUs, GPUs, and, uh, getting ramped because like, I don't know

01:59:40.260 --> 01:59:49.260
if I've made this clear in the past, but our goal is not just to test every Ventus,

01:59:49.260 --> 01:59:57.260
uh, Tri-Flow, uh, Strix and get like every version of, of, of, of every GPU, but to,

01:59:57.260 --> 02:00:05.260
to have enough capacity to do that and start making our way backward so that if you're

02:00:05.260 --> 02:00:11.260
upgrading, you can literally take your current card and compare it to all of your different

02:00:11.260 --> 02:00:16.380
options to upgrade to. Now it's, it's obviously not going to be perfect, right?

02:00:16.380 --> 02:00:20.380
Because we might not run with the same CPU that you have in your system, but it will

02:00:20.380 --> 02:00:25.380
at least be a valuable point of reference and, and that's our goal in the longer term.

02:00:25.380 --> 02:00:29.380
Another just little reminder to check out that blog post that Dan posted.

02:00:29.380 --> 02:00:35.380
It's, it's well written. The GIFs are, are painstakingly crafted and there's probably a couple of things in there

02:00:35.380 --> 02:00:39.380
that I missed. So, um, if you're, if you're interested in the lab site, I would, I would highly suggest

02:00:39.380 --> 02:00:43.380
checking that out. But yeah, man, it's, it's starting to feel really good.

02:00:43.380 --> 02:00:47.380
Still so much more we can do with the lab site, which is also exciting.

02:00:47.380 --> 02:00:52.380
Like, um, as much as this makes it feel like full and all that other type of stuff that

02:00:52.380 --> 02:00:55.380
I said, there's so many more features that could be coming down the line.

02:00:55.380 --> 02:00:59.380
Um, I'm not going to name any of them now, but there's some really good ideas that will

02:00:59.380 --> 02:01:03.380
really continue to push the, the usability of the site.

02:01:03.380 --> 02:01:08.380
Um, and, and help people end up with a decision.

02:01:08.380 --> 02:01:11.380
Um, that's another one of the things that we've been talking about.

02:01:11.380 --> 02:01:14.380
What, what does the lab site eventually need to be able to do?

02:01:14.380 --> 02:01:18.380
And it's been really interesting for information for a while, but as we move forward into the

02:01:18.380 --> 02:01:21.380
future, we want to help you come to a conclusion more.

02:01:21.380 --> 02:01:24.380
Um, right now it's, it's still in the great for information stage.

02:01:24.380 --> 02:01:29.380
And we think stuff like that categories view that we're showing off can really push forward

02:01:29.380 --> 02:01:33.380
towards helping people come to a conclusion. Um, but there is still more that we can do.

02:01:33.380 --> 02:01:40.380
Um, and it's, it's exciting to, you know, have more things to work on.

02:01:40.380 --> 02:01:43.380
That's good. Yeah, buddy.

02:01:43.380 --> 02:01:46.380
Let's go. Yeah, buddy. Let's go.

02:01:46.380 --> 02:01:50.380
Okay. Moving on. Oh, a sponsor spot, I guess.

02:01:50.380 --> 02:01:53.380
Is that right? I think so. I don't know, Dan.

02:01:53.380 --> 02:01:59.380
You tell us. Yeah. It's a takeover.

02:01:59.380 --> 02:02:02.380
Wow. We need to stop tossing the talk around.

02:02:02.380 --> 02:02:09.380
Sorry. My goodness. Um, it's like scroll me to the very top when something happened and stuff is it was wild.

02:02:09.380 --> 02:02:12.380
Threat Locker has taken over this WAN Show as you might have seen at the beginning of

02:02:12.380 --> 02:02:15.380
the show. So they take all the sponsor spots. They take all the sponsors.

02:02:15.380 --> 02:02:18.380
Threat Locker. All of it. Is that who took it?

02:02:18.380 --> 02:02:21.380
Yep. Threat Locker. So they've taken over all the sponsor spots.

02:02:21.380 --> 02:02:25.380
They took over all the sponsors. So if I tried to talk about another sponsor, like it would.

02:02:25.380 --> 02:02:29.380
Threat Locker. You know, their security method. My mic would stop working if not.

02:02:29.380 --> 02:02:32.380
Their security method is default deny. Okay.

02:02:32.380 --> 02:02:35.380
I won't talk about another. Other sponsors. Fair enough.

02:02:35.380 --> 02:02:38.380
Okay. Carry on. That was a, I'm pretty happy with that.

02:02:38.380 --> 02:02:44.880
That was pretty good. That was pretty good. Uh, anyways, uh, zero trust world is one of the talking points that I can go over.

02:02:44.880 --> 02:02:50.660
So I went to zero trust world. Unfortunately I missed actually some, some parts of it that I think were really probably

02:02:50.660 --> 02:02:55.380
cool, uh, because I flew into Toronto Pearson where that plane flipped over.

02:02:55.380 --> 02:02:59.380
Uh, so my flight was, my, my connecting flight was canceled.

02:02:59.380 --> 02:03:02.380
So I missed like the whole first day. Could have been worse. Could have been your flight.

02:03:02.380 --> 02:03:05.380
Uh, yeah, that would be kind of cool.

02:03:05.380 --> 02:03:11.380
Everybody survived. I would have been down. You could have been, uh, talked about on the internet.

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Yeah. He's never been talked about on the, never, never happened.

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Um, they had, they had some cool panels. They had hands-on stuff that I had some fun with.

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They had cool guest speakers. Um, they had Reggie Fiza May from, from like X Nintendo.

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That pretty wild. I don't know. Um, I really, I think I talked about this on last WAN Show, but I liked the, the Ducky

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panels. We had hack five rubber Ducky panels, um, where we, we learned how to do a bunch of

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different stuff with those, which was cool. But it was like the best thing you learned how to do.

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Uh, well they gave us a Ducky and then AJ and I were sitting there and we ended up finding,

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um, so back of the day, if you've seen the channel's super fun video, it's got a ton

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of views. So you might have, um, in high school, I found this, uh, screen melting program online.

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And then I, I messed a little bit and, and change it slightly and kind of made it my

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own, but you know, I didn't make the, I, I made fairly minor changes.

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There is a maintained version of the original source code online that updates it to support

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like multiple monitors and all that kind of stuff. You can find it on a GitHub.

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It's called screen melter. Um, so I didn't have access to my version and there's a better version now anyways.

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So we downloaded the executable from that.

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Um, and I got it to run by having it just, it had to access the file on the computer.

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And AJ was like, well, that's dumb cause we plug it into someone else's computer.

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The file is not going to be there. So we figured out how to get it to self-reference the, the rubber ducky itself for file storage.

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So you just plug it in and it's screen melts, which was fantastic.

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Wasn't really in the scope of the presentation, but we learned how to get there.

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Uh, not quite, but I did take the beginning thing from somebody else.

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Um, anyways, it was, it was, it was fun. We were messing around.

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It's so defensive. We took things a little bit. Well, I mean, there was a stage where it was like that, but I did actually do cool things to it.

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I made it like network deployable and all this other stuff. Anyways, uh, yeah, I was, it was a fun event.

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What else did you do, Luke? Oh yeah.

02:05:13.380 --> 02:05:17.380
Don't worry about it. Uh, cool. Anyway, tell us more about ZTW.

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Yeah. Um, there, there was a lot of the main stage events were cool.

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The hack panels were probably the most interesting ones to me.

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Um, it's funny how certain people like implicate themselves cause they can't help boasting

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certain kinds of people. I don't do anything anymore.

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It's been a long time. It's been like genuinely closer to 20 years than not.

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Like it's weird. It's been a long time since what?

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Nothing. Uh, anyways, uh, on a panel at zero trust world,

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they announced the addition of some cool features.

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One of those called insights allows you to collect data for millions of endpoints worldwide

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and present them as actionable information, saving lots of time.

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That might be spent researching web control,

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which lets you build a library of websites from an always updating list of ones automatically

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identified as suspicious and blocks your endpoints from accessing them without permission

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and patch management, which scans devices for outdated applications and inspects the proposed updates for anything

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that might make your environment less secure or unstable.

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Uh, and then lets you apply the patches according to your preset policies.

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Um, So there's all front locker by the way.

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Yeah. Threat locker as I, as I previously mentioned is a default deny type system.

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So it, it can be very useful at not letting something happen.

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I don't have their exact talking points for this in front of me,

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but the idea is that they're not reactive. Yeah.

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Um, or their focus is not being reactive. Something productive.

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Um, so they're, they're, they try to block things before they can potentially even happen.

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Um, which is, which is pretty cool. They lean really heavily on the whole zero trust concept.

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Zero trust is not necessarily their thing.

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It's a concept that has existed for a long time. Um, there's products from other brands that reference the term zero trust,

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but I've always kind of liked that approach to things and they embrace it very heavily.

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It's not like the kind of the core of their company. Um, they have a big emphasis, big emphasis on their support.

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Um, they always have real people behind the scenes helping out with,

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with their platform and their whole cyber hero thing is, is.

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Yeah. That might've helped during the hackening.

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Yeah. You can like, you can like pull in support basically, which is,

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which is pretty great. Um, there's a note here that says maybe they could have helped during the hack.

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Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, uh, I don't technically know cause we haven't used that yet,

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but probably. Yeah, for sure. To just have someone.

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At least a reassuring. With a cool head. Extra set of heads.

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Yes. Yes. Cause I was not.

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It's often all you need to. Yeah. Like just somebody who's like,

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I've been through this before. Yeah. It's going to be okay.

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Yeah. Let's take these steps and we'll work our way out of it. Um, but yeah, it's cool.

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Excited. Yeah. And we're pretty excited about that.

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Yeah. Uh, I got a couple of quick things from the Floatplane chat here.

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Um, Neil Morph says, Hey, please tell me, you know when the LTT Store sale ends.

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Um, and then in response, I'm going to give you this,

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uh, message from jetpack Dan in the chat.

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No, the tech vest in my size is out of stock.

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It doesn't matter how long the sale event lasts.

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If you see something you like, you should probably order it because this is the right off sale.

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And quantities are going to be limited regardless of how long

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the sale event lasts. So you should probably move pretty quickly.

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Yeah. I don't think we're going into back ordering for this stuff. Right.

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It's just when it's sold out, it's sold out. Uh, please address the.

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What? I mean, we're not going to play a video.

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Yeah. That's not going to happen. It was four hours ago.

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Sorry. Um, apparently we may or may not have said things incorrectly

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about placebos on the last show. There's a video, um, from somebody about it.

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Uh, feel free to check it out if you want. We're not, we don't really talk about medical stuff.

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So I'm sure if we said it wrong, it's our bad. We're a tech channel.

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It is what it is. Cool.

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All right. What else we got today?

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Do a new topic? Sure.

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Sick. Uh, okay.

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Do you want good news or bad news?

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Good news. Okay. Eight sleep engineers backdoored your bed.

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Oh wait. No, that's not good news.

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Uh, wait, hold on. Wait, backdoored? It might be good news.

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Microsoft is shutting down Skype for good.

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I mean that. That's probably neutral. That's like neutral.

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Let's go with neutral. Okay. Microsoft has confirmed that after 21 years, Skype is shutting down for good.

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This confirmation comes after users poked around the latest Skype preview update and

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noticed text that read starting in May, Skype will no longer be available.

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Continue your calls and chats in teams or discord.

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You know, uh, some Skype users will already be able to log into teams using their Skype

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credentials while others should gain the ability over the next few days.

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Our discussion question here is any good Skype memories?

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I mean, LTT forum mod team used to meet over Skype and that was cool.

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It was pretty great. It was pretty great for a little while until the IP resolver bug.

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Yes. Basically made it unusable for us because we would have people call into the WAN Show

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and then I forget the exact details, but I think anyone who had the username of any

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one in the call could resolve the IP address of the host of the call.

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And so the WAN Show would just constantly get DDoS'd.

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Yeah. Whenever we would try to have a live guest, which was basically why we stopped doing live

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guests for a long time. We eventually figured out some mitigation that we will never, ever, ever talk about.

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But yeah, Skype, any good experience I ever had with Skype, you know, whether it was affordable

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long distance calling or, you know, using it as a reasonably high fidelity gaming chat

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was more than any goodwill that I had towards Skype was more than wiped out by not just the

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existence of the IP resolver bug, but the long, long, long term persistence of the IP

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resolver bug. That was a huge, huge issue.

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So yeah, sucked. Goodbye, Skype.

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I wish that you were never introduced in place of MSN Messenger.

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Yeah. Rest in pieces. Yeah.

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What else we got? Should we talk about the bed thing?

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Sure. After discovering an AWS key pair in a firmware update for his eight-sleep mattress in December,

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security researcher Dylan Aray did, sure, Dylan did some more digging and discovered

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that eight-sleep engineers are able to remotely SSH into every customer's bed, which by the

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way, contains a full Linux computer and they can even run arbitrary code and not just from

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your local network. So cool. Dylan posted screenshots and code snippets on his Truffle security blog and noted that

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with this access, eight-sleep engineers could know when you are sleeping, detect how many

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people are in your bed, change your bed's temperature, change vibration and alarm settings,

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connect to other devices on your local network, and, this is the kicker, do literally anything

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that they could on a normal Linux machine.

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I'm really glad we don't work with them anymore. Yeah.

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They have turned out to be absolute doom cups.

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Was it you who posted that nine-sleep thing in the chat?

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Yeah. Apparently, has it been abandoned?

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It looks like maybe. There's a DIY hack thing where you go and you take the microSD card out of your eight-sleep

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and you can overwrite a file and then manually configure it and stuff.

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There's no reason you shouldn't be able to do everything that eight-sleep does through

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the cloud locally, other than just that they want to maintain control over the ecosystem.

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I have one. You can use it to tie into Home Assistant and stuff.

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Luke has one. I begrudgingly have one.

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I like mine.

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They seem to make monster money. No, they don't.

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They don't? No, they were in financial trouble a while back. Oh, really?

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Yeah. Well, maybe it's because they're shipping everybody Linux computers.

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Maybe they should bomb down their product.

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I could be wrong. Eight-sleep has raised 86 million in series C funding.

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Hold on. What's this one? What's this?

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I just want someone to come up with a competitor. February 2023.

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Okay. I don't know.

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I take that back. I take that back. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I dressed a leakage issue.

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I missed the eight-sleep. They've raised over 155.

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Oh, their latest funding round was a corporate minority on June 24, 2024.

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I don't know what that means.

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No idea. Valuation was about half a bill in July 2021.

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Yeah, people are saying lots of embedded devices have embedded Linux for some reason.

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Yeah. I mean, that is true. Sure, fair enough.

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I don't have a SSH backdoor into my house, please.

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Yeah. Yeah, that. That thing that he said just now.

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So, yeah, I'm not super into it. Our discussion question is, is it time for DIY water-cooled bed version two?

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Oh, man, I don't want to.

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Can you buy a cover? Yeah, you can. You can buy it.

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Can you buy just a cover? Oh. Like, that's water-cooled?

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That, I don't know. But in terms of duvets, you can get one.

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No, no, no, no. The eight-sleep cover. It's called a cover.

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Yeah. The part that straps onto your bed, not the pod.

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Oh, I don't know. That's a good question.

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Because if I remember correctly, when you guys made that video, the difficult part was the

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cover. Oh, no, the bed was hard.

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The cooling was hard. Well, the cooling was only easy because we had that chiller that we just happened to

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have. Most people wouldn't have that. But realistically, you don't need that kind of horsepower in your tr...

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Not literal horsepower, but you don't need that powerful of a chiller anyway.

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And something more akin to what we made when we did the water-cooled gamer chair would be

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more than fine. Because, like, a couple hundred watts is lots to draw heat away from a sleeping person.

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Let me see if I can find it. Water-cooled chair.

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Yeah, here it is. Oh, apparently there is a competitor.

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I've never heard of this. Oh, my God.

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I will come back to this once my ads are done.

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I know nothing about these guys. They might have the exact same problem.

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I have no clue, but a chili pad.

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Okay. They sleep me. So I've got a Grammarly ad.

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Grammarly is one of those companies that, like, I would never use for myself, but I absolutely

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believe that a lot of people should use. Yeah.

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So here, this just little, like, Peltier element that I'm holding is enough to cool one person.

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And that's basically what's inside the eight-sleep. I must just say, I thought it was kind of nice.

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It either runs to the hot side or the cold side, depending on whether it's trying to

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chill the mattress cover or heat it. And that's why it's so quiet, too.

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But it's not very energy efficient, but because you're not actually trying to cool a computer

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with it, it's fine. You're just trying to cool a human, which is, like, think about a hundred watts at rest

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or something like that. It's not that much.

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Anyway, not cool. How's this competitor look?

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I don't know. I'm on your screen. When they were showing this animation, I thought it was just, like, a cool pad, but then you

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can see as the animation goes on, it's kind of pivoting away from it now.

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Oh, do you need one for each side? Interesting.

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So they show the cover coming down, and then they show a little blue animation of, like,

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look, it's plugged into this thing. Oh, yeah, okay. There is some form of external heat cool element, but then I also see one on the other side.

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So maybe it's one for each half of the bed.

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Which, honestly, is probably fine. It's probably fine.

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Realistically, any, like, main bedroom layout is going to have a spot for two night stands

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and, you know, like, it's going to have two sides of the bed, generally speaking.

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Oh, yeah, here we go. Looks like these are their options.

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Yeah, so it comes with two of the things.

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Mm-hmm. Supreme sleep tracker. Is it a subscription?

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I don't know.

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Me, half queen, me or we, sleep week sale.

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Is it a subscription? Does anybody know?

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Yeah, so, yeah, the price jumps a bunch when you go to two people.

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That makes sense. Which does make sense. But I don't see any subscription things.

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They have a protection plan, but that's not a subscription.

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Yes, it has a six dollar monthly subscription.

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One month of sleep me plus. Yeah, I see it now.

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But does it work without it? Because I don't have an eight sleep subscription.

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Yeah, you don't need it. Looks like enough for me. Yeah, me too.

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All right. Well, realistically, it's probably not going to be that different, but who knows.

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Maybe it is pretty similar, but I don't know.

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It's a subscription, but you don't need it says someone says low boom.

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So kind of same deal, I guess. Okay.

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All right. What else we want to talk about today?

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Twitch has implemented a 100 hour storage limit and people are losing their minds in

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an effort to cut costs. Amazon owned frenemy of streamers.

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Twitch is culling archived content by making all highlights and uploads, whether published

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or unpublished count toward a single 100 hour storage limit.

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This limit will go into place on April 19th when content will automatically be deleted

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until it falls below the limit. This limit won't apply to full VODs or clips only highlights and uploads from third party

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services, but some creators are sharing screenshots showing they have several thousands of hours

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in highlights alone and now have less than two months to archive them.

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FKA socks pointed out on the Twitch forums that speed runners will likely be the worst

02:20:18.380 --> 02:20:24.380
hit. Speed run history is stored entirely in highlights, not just world records, but most every run

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submitted that was on Twitch is stored as a highlight on speedrun.com.

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They said discussion question.

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How expensive is hosting up to 4,000 plus hours of video for 0.5% of Twitch streamers,

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which is the percentage of Twitch streamers that Twitch claims will be effective?

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The answer is very expensive, which is why Amazon is stepping in and doing something about

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this. This is something that Luke and I have talked about for a long time.

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The most difficult part of pitching Floatplane to creators is that Floatplane costs what streaming

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and data storage costs.

02:21:03.380 --> 02:21:11.380
Everyone else is the VC model, which is I provide everything to you for free and we'll figure

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out the financials later. And what that looks like is when sites like Patreon start...

02:21:19.380 --> 02:21:29.380
Oh, they worked with Vimeo. Yeah, when sites like Patreon that had a video solution just don't have a proper video solution

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anymore. I believe they do now. Yep, they do now, but that was a big surprise to everybody.

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When sites like Twitch go, hey, unlimited data storage, this doesn't make any sense.

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And they just turn it off.

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That's what happens.

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And that's one of the reasons that I've talked about this at length in the past, but that's

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one of the reasons that YouTube is such a remarkable platform, the fact that they allow

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everyone to upload and the fact that all they ask in return is that you watch the ads, which

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admittedly are a lot these days, or that you pay a premium subscription, which quite frankly,

02:22:07.380 --> 02:22:13.380
given that it includes YouTube music, is very reasonably priced, is kind of incredible.

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YouTube is flipping incredible and I don't know how long it's going to last.

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But anyway, back to Twitch.

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I don't see them reversing course on this because realistically, I don't think they

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care. I think the only place that they're going to potentially lose streamers to is going to

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be what? Like Kick. And from my understanding, Kick's infrastructure just runs on AWS anyway.

02:22:36.380 --> 02:22:39.380
Yeah, but sometimes has like better features, which is really funny.

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So like, what does Amazon care? Because they basically get your business either way.

02:22:43.380 --> 02:22:48.620
So they can just either bleed money themselves on Twitch or they can just like take money

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from crypto bros. Someone in Flow Plane Chat posted that apparently Facebook is removing live vods that are over

02:22:54.620 --> 02:22:58.620
30 days old. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

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It doesn't surprise me because none of this is sustainable.

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Like that's the thing. Flow Plane is a crazy model.

02:23:04.620 --> 02:23:07.620
Like it's actually wild.

02:23:07.620 --> 02:23:12.620
Flow Plane is built to be sustainable and it is priced to be sustainable.

02:23:12.620 --> 02:23:15.620
Are we doing all right? And we're doing fine.

02:23:15.620 --> 02:23:22.620
But this other stuff is built for explosive exponential growth and just like suck money

02:23:22.620 --> 02:23:27.620
up from VCs until it doesn't make sense anymore and then stall.

02:23:27.620 --> 02:23:32.620
Right? Like that's the thing. If you take a plane and you go like this with it, eventually it stalls out.

02:23:32.620 --> 02:23:38.620
Whereas we're kind of built for slow, steady growth.

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Very slow.

02:23:41.620 --> 02:23:45.620
It's okay. Glacial. You'll do the business side someday.

02:23:45.620 --> 02:23:48.620
Someday. Someday you'll have an actual CEO.

02:23:48.620 --> 02:23:51.620
It'll happen. Not just a CEO in name.

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I'm not. Maybe never. Like the dog waiting outside of the store.

02:23:56.620 --> 02:24:00.620
He'll come back.

02:24:00.620 --> 02:24:07.620
Someday. Except the store that I went to is for cigarettes.

02:24:07.620 --> 02:24:12.620
Dad's never coming home, is he?

02:24:12.620 --> 02:24:21.620
Honestly, this feels like an opportunity for someone like investment disclosure, hashtag.

02:24:21.620 --> 02:24:29.620
Like right now, it's too bad that they weren't out of beta at this point with HexOS.

02:24:29.620 --> 02:24:33.620
Because if they could just be like, yeah, okay, Twitch streamers.

02:24:33.620 --> 02:24:40.620
Here, get ready to own your data. It's going to cost you a little bit of money because storage costs money and you have to

02:24:40.620 --> 02:24:43.620
pay for it somehow, but it's going to cost you a little bit of money.

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But here's where you can put it. I don't think most streamers are going to perma store their data.

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They might perma store clips or specific streams or things like that.

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But I don't think they're going to perma store everything. Sure.

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But I mean, we're not talking about everything. It's not like Twitch isn't willing to store 100 hours worth of storage.

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But if there's anything that they want outside of that, then they're going to have to figure

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it out. And some streamers will. I remember Severus.

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Yeah. He used to. Yep.

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That's true. Well, good luck, everybody.

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Yep. What else we got?

02:25:17.620 --> 02:25:25.620
Yeah, I.

02:25:25.620 --> 02:25:31.620
There's so much stuff. Lake's Orange said 10 plus years ago, Twitch stored the VOD of every stream ever.

02:25:31.620 --> 02:25:34.620
Then they took that away. This is just a natural progression of that.

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Yeah, it just doesn't make, it doesn't make any sense, especially when no offense Twitch

02:25:38.620 --> 02:25:44.620
streamers. But the vast majority of your airtime is just garbage.

02:25:44.620 --> 02:25:48.620
Cherestream. Like it actually should not be archived.

02:25:48.620 --> 02:25:51.620
It doesn't matter. We don't need it. What?

02:25:51.620 --> 02:25:55.620
No offense. You don't need to watch one person watching someone else's content?

02:25:55.620 --> 02:26:00.620
No. What do you mean? I don't even need to watch two people watching someone else's content.

02:26:00.620 --> 02:26:03.620
What would Twitch streamers do if like YouTube didn't exist?

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Play video games. What? I know.

02:26:06.620 --> 02:26:09.620
I know. Wild idea. That's hard work.

02:26:09.620 --> 02:26:17.620
Wild idea. I don't know about that. Nerdle says me watching two people talking about people watching content.

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Touche. That's pretty good.

02:26:20.620 --> 02:26:23.620
Hey, good news.

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EA releases the source code for four command and conquer.

02:26:28.620 --> 02:26:33.620
Was this on anyone's bingo card for 2025?

02:26:33.620 --> 02:26:36.620
Not even a little. Yeah. EA.

02:26:36.620 --> 02:26:40.620
I'm sure you're going to tell me like Activision Blizzard did something good.

02:26:40.620 --> 02:26:43.620
No. I'm kidding. No one's going to say that.

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No. The source code release is for command and conquer, Tiberium Dawn, Red Alert, Renegade,

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and Generals along with the zero hour expansion.

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It is being released under the GPL license and the code is available from EA's freaking

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GitHub page. Game Workshop support is also being enabled for Renegade, Generals plus the zero hour expansion,

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command and conquer three Tiberium Wars plus the Cane's Wrath expansion, and command and

02:27:10.900 --> 02:27:17.820
conquer four Tiberium Twilight. They have released a modding support pack that includes source XML schema shader and

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map files for all games utilizing Sage strategy action game engine also available from EA's

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GitHub page. What?

02:27:28.860 --> 02:27:32.300
Genuinely wild. Are you kidding me?

02:27:32.300 --> 02:27:37.980
EA released remasters of command and conquer, Tiberium Dawn, OG, and Red Alert back in 2020

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as well as the ultimate collection in 2024 on Steam.

02:27:41.300 --> 02:27:45.700
But this is, this is wild. Fern 182 says it's EA.

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There will be a catch. Mark my words. There will be a catch.

02:27:48.700 --> 02:27:51.860
But I don't, I don't see the catch. I never got into command and conquer.

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I was a Warcraft kid. I like that Red Alert was, was big in my house.

02:27:56.500 --> 02:28:01.860
But like, dude, this is, this is, I am at a loss.

02:28:01.860 --> 02:28:06.420
It's weird. Like we had Valve last week going full good guy on TF2.

02:28:06.420 --> 02:28:09.460
And how did these happen so close to each other? I know, right?

02:28:09.460 --> 02:28:14.780
It's really hard for me to believe that EA was able to like do this in a week.

02:28:14.780 --> 02:28:17.780
You know. There's no way. It would have had to be.

02:28:17.780 --> 02:28:23.300
They must have both been cooking on it, but like, what? That's just so weird.

02:28:23.300 --> 02:28:26.540
Thanks Mewkem. The Lux backpack. I will pay double.

02:28:26.540 --> 02:28:30.620
Also this money could have went toward tinting my golf.

02:28:30.620 --> 02:28:33.820
I don't know if we're going to bring the Lux bag back, but hey, thanks for picking up

02:28:33.820 --> 02:28:36.820
a backpack.

02:28:36.820 --> 02:28:41.220
I, I, I mean, we've said everything there is to say about the topic at this point, I

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think, other than just, I want to drag it out a little bit more to emphasize good job

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EA. Like this is, this is the best case scenario for game preservation.

02:28:52.700 --> 02:29:00.780
This is the best case possible scenario for preserving gaming experiences for future generations.

02:29:00.780 --> 02:29:04.660
Like what was it? Um, I think it was Destiny, uh, uh, Destiny 2.

02:29:04.660 --> 02:29:10.820
I was looking at that, that, that lawsuit, uh, Destiny 2 lawsuit, YouTube footage, uh,

02:29:10.820 --> 02:29:14.260
because they were trying to, here we go.

02:29:14.260 --> 02:29:20.380
Yeah. Bungie's lawyers had to use fan videos of old Destiny 2 content in court because it

02:29:20.380 --> 02:29:23.620
doesn't exist in game anymore.

02:29:23.620 --> 02:29:29.900
Freaking wild. So this is, uh, because a science fiction writer is suing them, but the, so the lawyers

02:29:29.900 --> 02:29:35.820
can't point at the game anymore because these live service games change over time and these

02:29:35.820 --> 02:29:40.620
gaming experiences are just gone.

02:29:40.620 --> 02:29:51.620
That sucks. Yeah. And I didn't expect EA of all companies to be one of the first to do this in a big

02:29:51.620 --> 02:29:55.500
fashion. I'm, I'm 100% certain. This is Commander Freaking Conquer.

02:29:55.500 --> 02:29:59.540
Like this isn't like some crap game no one ever cared about.

02:29:59.540 --> 02:30:02.980
Yeah. Commander Conquer was a huge deal. Red Alert was a huge deal.

02:30:02.980 --> 02:30:08.700
No kidding. Both of these were, were massive. I mean, I think it's Commander Conquer, Red Alert, but whatever.

02:30:08.700 --> 02:30:13.700
Red Alert one and Red Alert two were both massive. Um, I don't know.

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It's cool. I just, I, I respect it.

02:30:17.260 --> 02:30:20.260
It's good. Good. It's rare.

02:30:20.260 --> 02:30:25.140
See Raid on man. He wasn't going to say anything anyway. They're like, he's like, let Luke talk.

02:30:25.140 --> 02:30:28.700
No, I had nothing to add. Yeah. It's really cool.

02:30:28.700 --> 02:30:31.700
It's just good. Someone said it did it first. Yeah.

02:30:31.700 --> 02:30:36.060
I mean, I didn't know that to be completely honest, but maybe I knew at one point forgot.

02:30:36.060 --> 02:30:41.500
I'm not sure. It's just, I'm still very happy.

02:30:41.500 --> 02:30:49.340
In less good gaming news, Warner Rose cannot break their L streak and has shut down legendary

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game studio monolith productions alongside two others.

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And this one hits me a little harder than most because I don't know if you guys remember

02:31:00.740 --> 02:31:06.940
this, but, um, we actually got an incredible opportunity.

02:31:06.940 --> 02:31:11.020
Seven years ago to go behind the scenes at monolith.

02:31:11.020 --> 02:31:15.380
That is a terrible thumbnail. Not enough people watched this.

02:31:15.380 --> 02:31:19.740
This was a really good video. The folks there were so cool.

02:31:19.740 --> 02:31:22.940
They were awesome. So dedicated to their craft.

02:31:22.940 --> 02:31:29.340
Um, I, I just, I don't think I've ever seen a more passionate team doing more passionate

02:31:29.340 --> 02:31:35.340
stuff. This was sponsored by Xbox. And this was the one time we ever did a sponsorship with Xbox.

02:31:35.340 --> 02:31:38.940
And it was so worth it. And so cool. Let's go to their mocap.

02:31:38.940 --> 02:31:45.180
They had an onsite, they had an onsite mocap setup where the actual developers, like some

02:31:45.180 --> 02:31:49.740
of them had a little bit of martial arts training and they would, they would like have an idea

02:31:49.740 --> 02:31:54.140
for something and they would literally just go jump in the mocap room and, and, and just

02:31:54.140 --> 02:31:58.460
do it and then go back to their stations and, and, and work on it.

02:31:58.460 --> 02:32:07.220
Like it was, oh, what an absolutely incredible team.

02:32:07.220 --> 02:32:19.020
They did some incredible work. Um, uh, Shadow of Mordor was actually one of the only games during that time of my life,

02:32:19.020 --> 02:32:23.060
that I managed to play all the way through because I was really busy like running a company

02:32:23.060 --> 02:32:27.580
and having kids and stuff. Uh, Middle Earth, Shadow of Mordor, so what that came out in 2014.

02:32:27.580 --> 02:32:31.940
That was like, that was like the empty times for gaming for me.

02:32:31.940 --> 02:32:36.500
I played through, uh, the first Tomb Raider, like, like reboot.

02:32:36.500 --> 02:32:41.940
I played through Middle Earth, Shadow of Mordor, I don't know, maybe like one or two other

02:32:41.940 --> 02:32:45.380
games. Absolutely incredible game. The Nemesis system was so cool.

02:32:45.380 --> 02:32:52.740
So sick. Um, literally it was literally just messing around with the Nemesis system was like worthy

02:32:52.740 --> 02:33:03.700
gameplay. Oh, a hundred percent. Those of you not familiar, it basically created memorable characters out of like just rando

02:33:03.700 --> 02:33:09.740
NPC enemies and like created like, like feuds between you and even between them and each

02:33:09.740 --> 02:33:17.740
other and stuff. The Nemesis system was super cool. It made it so that deaths in the game, like if you died, the, your Nemesis's would like

02:33:17.740 --> 02:33:25.100
level up and evolve. So like your own death was a, was an actual mechanic in the game, which is so cool.

02:33:25.100 --> 02:33:28.940
Like I don't know though, it was, it was sick.

02:33:28.940 --> 02:33:33.140
Anyway, this sucks. Um, let's read through the thing.

02:33:33.140 --> 02:33:37.940
Monolith has had struggled under the close scrutiny of Warner Brothers after the second

02:33:37.940 --> 02:33:41.020
Middle Earth Shadow game made less money than the first.

02:33:41.020 --> 02:33:45.660
The bros were only really interested in established franchises at that point.

02:33:45.660 --> 02:33:51.060
So the new IP code named legacy was canceled in 2021 and most of the studio leadership

02:33:51.060 --> 02:33:55.180
left once work on the troubled Wonder Woman began.

02:33:55.180 --> 02:34:01.500
David added a note here. They formed cliffhanger hanger games at EA and are making the new Black Panther game.

02:34:01.500 --> 02:34:08.900
Oh, cool. After the historic $200 million flop of Suicide Squad killed the Justice League, as well as

02:34:08.900 --> 02:34:14.220
the $100 million right down of Multiversus and the new Quidditch game, Warner Brothers

02:34:14.220 --> 02:34:19.300
has canceled Wonder Woman and closed Monolith as well as player first games, Multiversus,

02:34:19.300 --> 02:34:25.060
and WB game San Diego, which was working on an unannounced free to play AAA game.

02:34:25.060 --> 02:34:30.540
The incredible, but unfortunately patented nemesis system from the shadow games will

02:34:30.540 --> 02:34:37.700
now live in legal limbo instead of being iterated on by Monolith or other developers.

02:34:37.700 --> 02:34:42.580
Um, okay. So yeah, that blows basically.

02:34:42.580 --> 02:34:45.700
I don't really know what else there is to say about that either.

02:34:45.700 --> 02:34:50.540
Yeah. Hall effect is dead. Long live TMR.

02:34:50.540 --> 02:34:56.100
8-bit dough is releasing the ultimate to non-C wireless controller and they have ditched

02:34:56.100 --> 02:35:02.820
Hall effect sticks in favor of a new text, a new stick tech, TMR or tunneling magneto

02:35:02.820 --> 02:35:09.100
resistance. TMR can offer higher precision, reportedly 10 times over Hall effect and refresh rates

02:35:09.100 --> 02:35:12.980
up to 20,000 Hertz while using less power.

02:35:12.980 --> 02:35:18.300
From Gillykit CEO Jack He via the Verge, the power consumption of TMR sensors is usually

02:35:18.300 --> 02:35:25.660
in the range of 0.1 to 0.3 milliamps while Hall effect sensors can consume 0.5 to 2 milliamps.

02:35:25.660 --> 02:35:29.580
Mainly because of this difference, Hall effect joysticks cannot work very well when installed

02:35:29.580 --> 02:35:34.940
on stock controllers. There are already several other controllers currently available with TMR sticks, including

02:35:34.940 --> 02:35:38.900
the excellent Game Sir Cyclone 2, which David unboxed recently on SC.

02:35:39.700 --> 02:35:44.740
Dude, third party controllers are not Little Brother anymore.

02:35:44.740 --> 02:35:50.860
That controller roundup we did opened my eyes in a big way.

02:35:50.860 --> 02:35:55.340
I just had not given enough attention to it.

02:35:55.340 --> 02:36:01.660
Controller enjoyer for a very long time and that Game Sir Cyclone 2 video from David has

02:36:01.660 --> 02:36:08.020
made me consider buying not an Xbox controller for literally potentially the first time ever.

02:36:08.020 --> 02:36:15.380
This video was a ton of fun to make and just because something did not win the bracket,

02:36:15.380 --> 02:36:19.820
the bracket of tournament, does not mean that it was not really an incredible controller.

02:36:19.820 --> 02:36:24.180
There is a lot of diamonds out there, some of them in the rough, some of them hiding

02:36:24.180 --> 02:36:27.580
in plain sight. I was blown away, I was blown away.

02:36:27.580 --> 02:36:31.460
The community really was right on this one because they called us out, they were like,

02:36:31.460 --> 02:36:36.780
you guys have not paid attention to controller reddit and we are like, okay, all right,

02:36:36.900 --> 02:36:40.060
we are on it, we are on it. Man, they were right.

02:36:40.060 --> 02:36:46.540
Very cool. What else we got today?

02:36:46.540 --> 02:36:56.380
Do you want to talk about developer Rhys Kentish who built an app that stops people from doom

02:36:56.380 --> 02:37:01.220
scrolling by making them touch grass?

02:37:01.220 --> 02:37:06.180
This is awesome.

02:37:06.180 --> 02:37:10.140
To unlock your phone, touch grass.

02:37:10.140 --> 02:37:16.260
You have to, it opens the camera and you literally have to go outside, stop doom scrolling and

02:37:16.260 --> 02:37:21.460
touch actual grass, grass detected.

02:37:21.460 --> 02:37:25.180
That is awesome and I love it.

02:37:25.180 --> 02:37:30.340
That's all I have to say about that. No, maybe there's more to say about that. Yeah, I use this computer vision to detect the grass.

02:37:30.340 --> 02:37:38.860
This is getting significantly easier. There's this thing Wendell told me like eons ago at this point that everything becomes

02:37:38.860 --> 02:37:42.820
like in the software development world, everything becomes three times easier to make every three

02:37:42.820 --> 02:37:49.060
years and there was like reasoning why it's not, you know, two times every two years.

02:37:49.060 --> 02:37:55.700
It's like, anyways, and these types of things are just so much easier to make these days.

02:37:55.700 --> 02:38:03.540
There's another app out there. Let me see if I can find it.

02:38:03.540 --> 02:38:10.780
I don't know if we're going to be able to find it right now, but there's another app

02:38:10.780 --> 02:38:14.900
out there where you have to put your phone in front of you and then it kind of like maps

02:38:14.900 --> 02:38:22.420
out your structure and you have to do pushups in order to like effectively buy app time so

02:38:22.420 --> 02:38:28.700
you can use apps. I think you could potentially combine a few of these things.

02:38:28.700 --> 02:38:37.500
I think there's been a surge in popularity for things like dumb phones.

02:38:37.500 --> 02:38:43.060
There's also been a surge in popularity of blocking app time and different things to

02:38:43.060 --> 02:38:47.740
just like help aid your willpower in using your phone.

02:38:47.740 --> 02:38:57.300
Did Hennyman just find it? He might have.

02:38:57.300 --> 02:39:01.420
This is not the one I was looking for, but yeah, clearly there's a few of these types

02:39:01.420 --> 02:39:09.100
of things. This is not an original idea. Maybe the actual touch and grasp portion is, but putting barriers in a variety of different

02:39:09.100 --> 02:39:13.340
types of barriers in front of using apps is like absolutely a thing that I think caters

02:39:13.340 --> 02:39:17.380
to younger phone users, to be honest.

02:39:17.540 --> 02:39:21.660
I think everyone's probably had the idea of like, man, gaming's not even that unhealthy

02:39:21.660 --> 02:39:25.380
if I like get up and do some pushups during every loading screen.

02:39:25.380 --> 02:39:29.780
That lasts for like the first quarter of one gaming session.

02:39:29.780 --> 02:39:32.780
Because it doesn't, you're not forced to do it.

02:39:32.780 --> 02:39:38.420
If the webcam on your computer wouldn't allow you to click next match, I think we've talked

02:39:38.420 --> 02:39:46.020
about that. Probably. I think we've actually talked about that as like a product that could exist.

02:39:47.020 --> 02:39:54.220
Yeah, that must have been on WAN Show at some point. I would, man, there's so many WAN shows and there's so many hours of WAN shows.

02:39:54.220 --> 02:39:58.780
So many hours. It's amazing that anyone is willing to archive all the hours of WAN shows.

02:39:58.780 --> 02:40:01.820
I mean, not very well, because they're like, half of them are corrupt, but.

02:40:01.820 --> 02:40:07.180
This is true. You know, it is what it is. But yeah, I think things like this are fantastic.

02:40:07.180 --> 02:40:10.500
So that's very, very cool. Good job. Keep going.

02:40:10.500 --> 02:40:13.780
Less fantastic is that Plex is killing the watch together feature.

02:40:13.780 --> 02:40:19.780
They've been rewriting their apps from the ground up over the last couple years and have made the decision to remove watch together.

02:40:19.780 --> 02:40:25.180
It will continue to exist in the web app for the foreseeable future and was this did not

02:40:25.180 --> 02:40:30.980
go over well with their community. Watch together initially launched in May of 2020 during the COVID pandemic.

02:40:30.980 --> 02:40:34.860
It synchronizes the video stream for the group, pausing for everyone if an individual pauses

02:40:34.860 --> 02:40:38.060
playback and resuming for everyone at the same time.

02:40:38.060 --> 02:40:42.100
They don't preclude the possibility of offering similar functionality again in the future

02:40:42.100 --> 02:40:47.580
using new tooling, but it's gone for now and is just yet another string of L's from

02:40:47.580 --> 02:40:54.060
the Plex team, removing features that used to exist and that people, you know, paid for

02:40:54.060 --> 02:40:57.420
their software with the understanding that it would have it.

02:40:57.420 --> 02:41:00.860
A big frustrating one for me is how broken downloads still are.

02:41:00.860 --> 02:41:05.900
I ran into a bug recently on Android where I tried to, or was it on iOS?

02:41:05.900 --> 02:41:11.220
I think it was a, I don't remember. Anyway, I tried for a recent trip to down to Disneyland.

02:41:11.220 --> 02:41:14.620
I tried to load a season of a show onto Yvonne's phone.

02:41:14.620 --> 02:41:19.620
So it was on Android and two of the episodes erred.

02:41:19.620 --> 02:41:24.740
And when you don't click the individual episodes, when you click an entire season, there is

02:41:24.740 --> 02:41:29.020
no way in the interface to retry one of them.

02:41:29.020 --> 02:41:32.860
So I had to remove the entire season and then redownload the entire season, which then

02:41:32.860 --> 02:41:36.180
also failed. So it was just complete waste of my time.

02:41:36.180 --> 02:41:38.180
That's annoying. Yeah.

02:41:39.180 --> 02:41:44.380
Plex says it's really complicated doing like downloads, especially background downloads,

02:41:44.380 --> 02:41:51.940
which I kind of get, but also like, oh my God, then don't do background downloads and

02:41:51.940 --> 02:41:55.300
force me to keep the app. Do something. Oh, I see.

02:41:55.300 --> 02:42:00.380
Download a file. Download a file to a full, that can't be impossible.

02:42:00.380 --> 02:42:05.580
I'm sorry. I don't, I don't buy it.

02:42:05.580 --> 02:42:10.820
I don't buy it. I'm sorry. Download a file cannot be that hard.

02:42:10.820 --> 02:42:14.460
Retry on download as well shouldn't be a big deal.

02:42:14.460 --> 02:42:18.020
No, it really shouldn't.

02:42:18.020 --> 02:42:23.300
I wonder if part of the problem is that they try to transcode and download like mid like

02:42:23.300 --> 02:42:30.740
fine to finish the transcode first and then I don't care, but just download a file.

02:42:30.740 --> 02:42:37.500
Can't be that hard. I mean, even then you should be able to retry it.

02:42:37.500 --> 02:42:44.540
This is cool. Scionic launches a new advanced ability hand for humans and robots.

02:42:44.540 --> 02:42:49.020
They just launched their improved mark nine and a half ability hand.

02:42:49.020 --> 02:42:54.540
It's available for both humans for use as a prosthetic and for robots and features the

02:42:54.540 --> 02:43:00.580
first touch sensing by onyx with the ability to read and control 30 touch sensor values

02:43:00.580 --> 02:43:06.300
and send a vibration to the user's ARM to communicate the sensation.

02:43:06.300 --> 02:43:12.420
It is blunt force impact and water resistant and will have 32 grip patterns currently 19.

02:43:12.420 --> 02:43:16.300
Okay, let's have a look at this.

02:43:16.300 --> 02:43:19.300
The video is pretty cool. Yeah. Oh, okay.

02:43:19.300 --> 02:43:22.300
No, right? This is cute.

02:43:22.300 --> 02:43:25.300
Sorry. Where's the where's the video?

02:43:25.300 --> 02:43:28.300
The second link. Yes.

02:43:28.300 --> 02:43:31.300
I've got it up. Actually just switched to.

02:43:31.300 --> 02:43:34.300
Too late. Blink. No, I got them.

02:43:35.300 --> 02:43:42.300
I think how they show the combination of people and also robots.

02:43:42.300 --> 02:43:47.300
I think that's pretty neat. They're trying to prove it's for both, right?

02:43:47.300 --> 02:43:54.300
Oh, wait. I know why this is in the doc. These guys sent me a video a while back of this, this woman basically just like going

02:43:54.300 --> 02:44:01.300
throughout her day with one of their prosthetics and it like blew my mind how she was able

02:44:01.300 --> 02:44:04.300
to basically do like everything.

02:44:04.300 --> 02:44:11.300
That's so sick. Like obviously there's going to be a learning curve for something like this, but.

02:44:11.300 --> 02:44:17.300
Yeah. And you can tell like with some thing, it doesn't look like necessarily 100% perfect,

02:44:17.300 --> 02:44:20.300
but that guy just loaded a big plate onto a bar.

02:44:20.300 --> 02:44:23.300
That was her in that one where she was lifting the thing.

02:44:23.300 --> 02:44:26.300
Yeah.

02:44:26.300 --> 02:44:31.300
Like clearly you can be extremely capable with this.

02:44:31.300 --> 02:44:38.300
It looks like a little more rigid than normal like human movement, but it's so sick.

02:44:38.300 --> 02:44:41.300
Super cool. Yeah. I guess that's pretty much it for that.

02:44:41.300 --> 02:44:44.300
It's a rapid fire topic. Fantastic.

02:44:44.300 --> 02:44:48.300
I don't know. I think that's pretty much it for this week.

02:44:48.300 --> 02:44:52.300
Should we switch over to after dark? How you doing over there, Dan? How's your fingers doing?

02:44:52.300 --> 02:44:54.300
Little tender.

02:44:55.300 --> 02:45:00.300
Oh my God. So I've been doing one every 14 seconds.

02:45:00.300 --> 02:45:03.300
Okay. Wow. A little epee.

02:45:03.300 --> 02:45:08.300
Good job everyone. I heard. I should probably check the gross profit percentage.

02:45:08.300 --> 02:45:11.300
It's a lot. It's a lot of. The profit is not a lot.

02:45:11.300 --> 02:45:19.300
I promise you that much. Your offsite laptop bag call out as much as people did notice it has caused it to surge

02:45:19.300 --> 02:45:21.300
in the rankings. Oh.

02:45:22.300 --> 02:45:27.300
The scribe driver is still dunking in terms of quantity.

02:45:27.300 --> 02:45:30.300
Amazing. Oh yeah. It's a great pen.

02:45:30.300 --> 02:45:36.300
And the great thing about selling pens is people need an unlimited number of them because

02:45:36.300 --> 02:45:40.300
they'll always lose them. Oh my God.

02:45:40.300 --> 02:45:43.300
Oh no. Oh wait. Hold on.

02:45:43.300 --> 02:45:48.300
Oh yeah. Okay. So scribe driver is ahead, but not by as much as you'd think looking at the dashboard.

02:45:48.300 --> 02:45:55.300
Not everybody sends a merge message. No, I know. And apparently a lot of people who ordered the laptop bag do not send a merge message.

02:45:55.300 --> 02:46:03.300
So that's interesting. So people who like writing with pens are more likely to send in a merge message.

02:46:03.300 --> 02:46:06.300
That kind of maybe lines up. Yeah.

02:46:06.300 --> 02:46:09.300
And the MCM starter thing. Oh, actually no. We did sell a lot of those.

02:46:09.300 --> 02:46:13.300
It's just really low on the list because it's not making money.

02:46:13.300 --> 02:46:16.300
Oh. Yeah. Hold on.

02:46:16.300 --> 02:46:19.300
How do I have this sorted? Let me just see.

02:46:19.300 --> 02:46:23.300
Yeah. Scribe driver purchasers might be Yap enjoyers.

02:46:23.300 --> 02:46:26.300
Yeah. That makes sense. Oh my God.

02:46:26.300 --> 02:46:29.300
Well anyway. Yeah. Good luck me.

02:46:29.300 --> 02:46:34.300
So that's cool. Well, it's good for cash flow anyway.

02:46:34.300 --> 02:46:37.300
It's not good for profitability. Okay.

02:46:37.300 --> 02:46:40.300
Let's talk about some merge messages. Sure.

02:46:40.300 --> 02:46:43.300
Oh, I forgot to set you over to the other one.

02:46:43.300 --> 02:46:51.300
Hi, Ellen Dan. I'm at an opinion would the X real one pro entered after dark from the Fallon vid be

02:46:51.300 --> 02:46:59.300
usable as a work monitor. I'm a front end dev and often need a screen where I can't have one.

02:46:59.300 --> 02:47:02.300
Thanks. And high L too. Oh, text.

02:47:02.300 --> 02:47:07.300
I mean, it's 1080p, right?

02:47:07.300 --> 02:47:13.300
And it's 1080p at like, you know, 170 inches or 150 inches or whatever you configure it

02:47:13.300 --> 02:47:18.300
to because you can sort of configure its virtual distance and virtual size.

02:47:18.300 --> 02:47:24.300
But no matter how you slice it, it's 1080p at an enormous size.

02:47:24.300 --> 02:47:33.300
Um, it also doesn't have like, it's not, uh, it's not an Apple vision pro, right?

02:47:33.300 --> 02:47:37.300
So it doesn't have the same spatial awareness that an Apple vision pro does.

02:47:37.300 --> 02:47:41.300
So it's not able to like lock and hover as you, you know, move around.

02:47:41.300 --> 02:47:44.300
You can't like set it up as a monitor and, you know, do your thing.

02:47:44.300 --> 02:47:50.300
Like it either floats around with you or it stays, um, I forget what the, sorry, I forget

02:47:50.300 --> 02:47:57.300
what the two modes are. It either is like stationary like that or it, uh, I think it tries to, I think it uses

02:47:57.300 --> 02:48:00.300
just like gyro to kind of float around with you.

02:48:00.300 --> 02:48:06.300
So it was a big problem. Um, when I was on the plane, for instance, like taxing on the runway, the plane would

02:48:06.300 --> 02:48:16.300
turn and it'd be like, see you later. Um, so it's a really cool product and really useful in certain situations, but I don't

02:48:16.300 --> 02:48:26.300
think it's a monitor. If it was between that and nothing, maybe, but I got to feel like there's almost always

02:48:26.300 --> 02:48:32.300
going to be a way to get a higher DPI display near you than those glasses.

02:48:32.300 --> 02:48:35.300
What? Nothing, just something good happened.

02:48:36.300 --> 02:48:40.300
Okay. And you're not going to like provide any context for that.

02:48:40.300 --> 02:48:43.300
Literally not at all. What an actual dick.

02:48:43.300 --> 02:48:46.300
I have to work with a guy all day.

02:48:54.300 --> 02:48:57.300
All right. What's next? Sure.

02:48:57.300 --> 02:49:02.300
Uh, sorry, you're going to be a little more direct. I mean, I can say, I guess, wow, I didn't think people were going to react that much.

02:49:02.300 --> 02:49:08.300
Yeah. Uh, a new contractor that is theoretically going to help us work on the apps for a

02:49:08.300 --> 02:49:11.300
flow plane, just fully signed on. Oh, wow.

02:49:11.300 --> 02:49:14.300
Very cool. Yeah. Okay.

02:49:14.300 --> 02:49:19.300
That is good news. That is good news. I didn't like really want to say it because now one's going to be like, um, it's next Friday

02:49:19.300 --> 02:49:25.300
and I, where's the app update? So I, I'm already getting like, never my next Friday.

02:49:25.300 --> 02:49:29.300
Where's the app update now? What are you waiting for? Where's the Apple TV update?

02:49:29.300 --> 02:49:32.300
Yeah. Where's the Roku app? Where's the Roku app?

02:49:32.300 --> 02:49:38.660
Where? Where's the dark mode? This is like actually a big problem because we, we literally discussed like one of the

02:49:38.660 --> 02:49:43.300
goals of bringing this person on and they're just part time, whatever, don't get too excited.

02:49:43.300 --> 02:49:47.500
Um, but one of the goals of bringing them on is to have a TV app finally come out.

02:49:47.500 --> 02:49:51.300
But it's like, where do you, where do you draw the line?

02:49:51.300 --> 02:49:56.300
Like, okay. So we have a general purpose TV app, but that doesn't work for Roku.

02:49:56.300 --> 02:50:00.260
So then you have to have a Roku app, but that doesn't work for this other thing.

02:50:00.260 --> 02:50:03.260
So then you try to get that, but then like, There's no line.

02:50:03.260 --> 02:50:07.260
You maintain everything. No. And you do it on zero dollar budget.

02:50:07.260 --> 02:50:10.260
No. You pay Linus. Yeah.

02:50:10.260 --> 02:50:13.260
Less than zero dollar budget. Ten bucks.

02:50:13.260 --> 02:50:16.260
Come on. Roku app, ten bucks.

02:50:16.260 --> 02:50:20.260
Yeah. Think of all the, think of all the payment and exposure you're getting.

02:50:20.260 --> 02:50:23.260
Roku app is just eye frame. Really?

02:50:23.260 --> 02:50:26.260
Okay. I didn't even know that. We haven't looked into it a lot.

02:50:26.260 --> 02:50:29.260
Um, we're, we're going to do the general one first. Anyways, we'll figure it out.

02:50:29.260 --> 02:50:34.260
But hopefully they're helpful. It's, they're basically just going to be working like probably weekends and stuff.

02:50:34.260 --> 02:50:37.260
So it's not, anyways, whatever. Fine.

02:50:37.260 --> 02:50:40.260
It doesn't matter. But I'm excited. Girdle said I was joking.

02:50:40.260 --> 02:50:43.260
I'm sorry. Apparently it's not just eye frame then.

02:50:43.260 --> 02:50:47.260
Oh. But like, I thought it was like their, their own like language and junk.

02:50:47.260 --> 02:50:50.260
But again, I haven't, I really haven't looked into it much.

02:50:50.260 --> 02:50:54.260
Um, We're not doing Tizen because I just don't feel like it.

02:50:54.260 --> 02:50:58.260
Samsung should just stop doing Tizen and that is the real solution to that.

02:50:59.260 --> 02:51:02.260
You're welcome. Samsung. I'm, I'm helping.

02:51:02.260 --> 02:51:08.260
I'm doing my little part to put pressure on you to just abandon that hot pile of garbage.

02:51:08.260 --> 02:51:14.260
To develop a Roku app, you primarily use the programming languages scene graph XML based

02:51:14.260 --> 02:51:19.260
for UI design and bright script for logic and interaction within the Roku development

02:51:19.260 --> 02:51:24.260
environment, requiring you to create a developer account and following Roku's guidelines for

02:51:24.260 --> 02:51:27.260
designing, coding, packaging and publishing your app on the Roku store.

02:51:27.260 --> 02:51:31.260
But that's how I don't want to do that at all.

02:51:31.260 --> 02:51:36.260
So this is what I mean by like, where, where's even their portal for publishing is awful.

02:51:36.260 --> 02:51:39.260
What LLM? Yeah. Yeah.

02:51:39.260 --> 02:51:44.260
Yeah. That was just the Google search one. Um, and I don't know considering that was an LLM just spitting that out.

02:51:44.260 --> 02:51:49.260
I don't know if that's 100% true, et cetera, et cetera. I've just heard it's like kind of a huge pain.

02:51:49.260 --> 02:51:52.260
Um, but we're, we're working on it.

02:51:53.260 --> 02:51:56.260
Hey y'all, I'm getting the bolt action pen for my dad's birthday.

02:51:56.260 --> 02:52:00.260
I wanted to ask Linus what industries he think will be the most favorable for the emerging

02:52:00.260 --> 02:52:04.260
small businesses to be a part of over the next five years.

02:52:04.260 --> 02:52:10.260
Hmm. Uh, do you want to just, uh, post your dissertation on the economy?

02:52:10.260 --> 02:52:14.260
Um, dude, I can't even begin to lentils.

02:52:14.260 --> 02:52:18.260
Dude, I can't even be, I like that reference.

02:52:18.260 --> 02:52:28.260
I, I, I can't even begin to, um, to guess, like the world is so messed up, right?

02:52:28.260 --> 02:52:36.260
Like, um, you've, you've got the, you've got stock market volatility at maybe not an all-time

02:52:36.260 --> 02:52:39.260
high, but certainly rather extreme, extremely high.

02:52:39.260 --> 02:52:44.260
You've got these valuations on companies, like whether we're talking, you know, Tesla

02:52:44.260 --> 02:52:49.260
or truth social or NVIDIA, you've got these valuations on companies that are

02:52:49.260 --> 02:52:56.260
make no sense at all, utterly divorced from any kind of, of profit earnings reality.

02:52:56.260 --> 02:53:03.260
Uh, you've got, you've got, you've got gold that's, you know, gone up with what is it

02:53:03.260 --> 02:53:06.260
like 56% in the last year or something like that.

02:53:06.260 --> 02:53:13.260
Meanwhile, you've got Bitcoin that shot up over the last year and then has plunged over

02:53:13.260 --> 02:53:16.260
the last few days. I haven't actually looked at it today.

02:53:16.260 --> 02:53:21.260
So I might be out of date, right? Like, uh, BDC to us dollars, where are we at?

02:53:21.260 --> 02:53:26.260
Okay. I just said it's below 80K. It's up 1% today, but it's, it's no, it's 85 USD now.

02:53:26.260 --> 02:53:29.260
I mean, being up 1% is huge though. That's true.

02:53:29.260 --> 02:53:32.260
That doesn't sound like much, but in the, in the current environment.

02:53:32.260 --> 02:53:37.260
Yeah. Um, where is the safe haven right now?

02:53:37.260 --> 02:53:40.260
Uh, I have no idea. And I mean, I, it's funny.

02:53:40.260 --> 02:53:43.260
I asked my kids like, you know, what do you want to be when you grow up?

02:53:43.260 --> 02:53:48.260
And the, the, the hilarious part of me asking them that is no matter what they say, I'm

02:53:48.260 --> 02:53:54.260
going to have absolutely no guidance to give them whatsoever because I don't know what

02:53:54.260 --> 02:53:58.260
kind of world they are going to participate in the workforce of.

02:53:58.260 --> 02:54:03.260
Um, and, and I've talked about that before on WAN Show, you know, 10 years ago, I said

02:54:03.260 --> 02:54:08.260
the same thing, except that here we are 10 years later where we're not talking that far

02:54:08.260 --> 02:54:15.260
in the future anymore. And yet my level of clarity is no higher because volatility just keeps going up.

02:54:15.260 --> 02:54:27.260
If anything, it might be less, you know, what industries will be most favorable for emerging

02:54:27.260 --> 02:54:30.260
small businesses to be part of over the next five years?

02:54:30.260 --> 02:54:34.260
Okay. Well, healthcare, human care won't be going anywhere.

02:54:34.260 --> 02:54:37.260
Therapy. Um, a lot of therapy.

02:54:37.260 --> 02:54:44.260
Yeah. That's something. Um, man, I mean, they're going to try to AI that too, Doug.

02:54:44.260 --> 02:54:47.260
They're already doing it. As far as my understanding goes.

02:54:47.260 --> 02:54:51.760
Um, not even, not even if they are doing it, people are going to seek it out through those

02:54:51.760 --> 02:55:00.260
like relational. Oh, I'm Casper in float Casper explore in Floatplane chats is blue collar trades.

02:55:00.260 --> 02:55:05.260
Yeah. I mean, if you have the, for sure, if you have the, the, the energy and you have the strength

02:55:05.260 --> 02:55:12.260
for it and if you don't, you should, I get think, try and find it, um, building stuff,

02:55:12.260 --> 02:55:15.260
repairing stuff.

02:55:15.260 --> 02:55:19.260
There's going to be, there's going to be money to be made there. There's going to be reliable work.

02:55:19.260 --> 02:55:24.260
Material harvesting for that matter, mining, forestry, stuff like that.

02:55:24.260 --> 02:55:27.260
The flesh of the week underclassed crystal.

02:55:27.260 --> 02:55:33.260
I'm not saying that machines and make a lot of money these days, man.

02:55:33.260 --> 02:55:38.260
Um, like actually though, like you're not wrong, but I'm not saying that crystal.

02:55:38.260 --> 02:55:43.260
Uh, what else we got?

02:55:43.260 --> 02:55:46.260
I like, oh, yep.

02:55:46.260 --> 02:55:51.260
Cephalos says, I mean, working for the federal government has always been solid, but the cracks are

02:55:51.260 --> 02:55:55.260
forming cracks brother cracks.

02:55:55.260 --> 02:56:02.260
You say, dude, that's like looking at my ass and being like, that's got a crack in it.

02:56:02.260 --> 02:56:08.260
You know, I think that's a chasm.

02:56:08.260 --> 02:56:11.260
I should have waited for you to drink something.

02:56:11.260 --> 02:56:14.260
What the heck?

02:56:14.260 --> 02:56:18.260
Don't worry, just comb it with a brick.

02:56:18.260 --> 02:56:24.260
All right. That might be worse.

02:56:24.260 --> 02:56:28.260
I think you just beat me. I had that streak for like a decade.

02:56:28.260 --> 02:56:36.260
I would never beat you.

02:56:36.260 --> 02:56:39.260
Oh man. Yeah. Human care.

02:56:39.260 --> 02:56:45.260
Oh dude. Yeah. I think stuff like paid friend industry is going to make its way outside of like Japan and stuff.

02:56:45.260 --> 02:56:49.260
Probably. I would also say, I mean, you're talking about human care.

02:56:49.260 --> 02:56:52.260
Uh, we have an extremely aging population. Yeah.

02:56:52.260 --> 02:56:57.260
Well, that's, that's a big part of it.

02:56:57.260 --> 02:57:00.260
Yeah. Okay. I'll ask you that.

02:57:00.260 --> 02:57:04.260
It won't be for long.

02:57:04.260 --> 02:57:07.260
With the way things are going.

02:57:07.260 --> 02:57:11.260
Hey Dale, a question for Luke. How much for security risk is Linus still using his note nine?

02:57:11.260 --> 02:57:16.260
A device still running Android 10 and that hasn't received a security update for probably

02:57:16.260 --> 02:57:21.260
more than two years. That's honestly the least of the problems when it comes to that guy.

02:57:21.260 --> 02:57:28.260
No, that's pretty high up there. Dude, you just log in to your own accounts on random devices around the office and then

02:57:28.260 --> 02:57:31.260
just leave them there. Like, what are you talking about?

02:57:31.260 --> 02:57:37.260
Oh, like my steam account. I mean, it's locked.

02:57:37.260 --> 02:57:40.260
Locked by what? Yeah. By a lock.

02:57:40.260 --> 02:57:44.260
Do you have a custom password on there?

02:57:44.260 --> 02:57:47.260
That one does. Yeah. Yeah.

02:57:47.260 --> 02:57:50.260
It does. Yeah. Did you do that?

02:57:50.260 --> 02:57:58.260
Yes. Thank you. I already follow around in his wake and like try to solve the incredibly chaotic things

02:57:58.260 --> 02:58:01.260
that he leaves behind. I've got work to do. That is already.

02:58:01.260 --> 02:58:04.260
You know, you know, he's going to be a problem.

02:58:04.260 --> 02:58:08.260
So why don't you just develop the systems that let him do whatever he wants.

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And I will say, I don't know why I'm doing this, but to defend him.

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I love how he knew where I was going before I even said it.

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This is extremely common practice for like company owners and stuff where the IT team

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has to be like, okay. Please stop.

02:58:28.260 --> 02:58:31.260
No. My time. I'm busy.

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My time is better spent doing literally anything else.

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That's why I make a bunch of spreadsheets with the account stack.

02:58:41.260 --> 02:58:48.260
He's not wrong. But really why a hundred other people work here is because they are doing stuff that

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I'm not doing, including an IT team.

02:58:51.260 --> 02:58:56.260
Honestly, one of our biggest problems is that he won't stop doing certain things.

02:58:56.260 --> 02:59:02.260
Why? What did I do? Like if you think about the Twitter one, like if you just didn't do that.

02:59:02.260 --> 02:59:08.260
Oh, dude, I have learned. Hey, look, I have passed every one of your phishing tests with flying colors.

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You don't answer your email. I do.

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I do answer my emails. What email did you send me that I haven't answered Mr. Besson?

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Well, that one. Actually, I actually also missed that email because I checked my emails very infrequently

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at least recently. Oh, you mean the email that I was supposed to do like a training session?

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No, that one looks like a phishing email, but the actual phishing email.

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Some people reported the training session emails as phishing, which was honestly probably

02:59:34.260 --> 02:59:37.260
a decent call. It was bad. It looked really sketchy.

02:59:37.260 --> 02:59:42.260
It's like this link to go to your security training that you're definitely from Sean,

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but it's not from his email. It's okay. Your company name here.

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We didn't set it up properly. Nice.

02:59:49.260 --> 02:59:56.260
Yeah, but the like phishing test email, you're not the one that opened yours.

02:59:56.260 --> 02:59:59.260
What do you mean? I'm not the one that opened it.

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Oh, no. The phishing test email, the like blind tests that we did when we tested the whole company

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without telling them. Yeah. You're not the one that opened it.

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I know. Yeah. Yeah.

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That's cause I just like, so you never got tested. Before I even opened it. Well, you didn't nuke it that hard.

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What do you mean? The other person opened it. What other person?

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What? You nuke it before you opened it? There was no hint that it was a phishing email in the subject line.

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Well, yeah. Why not? I don't think there was.

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Oh man. Now I want to know what it was. Oh, you mean that?

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I can find it. No, no, no. I can find it.

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Okay. I think I remember a keyword from it.

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Oh man. What was it?

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Ah. You ever have that thing where there's someone that you can communicate with on multiple

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apps and sometimes you just like open so many different things, which freaking one

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it is? Yup. That's why I only use iMessage now.

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I'm an Apple user. A kid.

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There's other message.

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Oh man. I must have deleted it or something.

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It literally is not in my inbox anymore.

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I think I can find it. I'm pretty sure.

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Basically, it was an email that was asking me to link up with someone on another platform

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that we use, but that was obviously fake.

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At least I think it was obviously fake.

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The subject line said, your teammates are trying to reach you, exclamation mark.

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Oh yeah. I would have just deleted that. That is obvious.

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That's super obvious. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I did that on my phone.

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I probably just hit report spam or something. Some from microsoft.teams at microsoft-office365.com.

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That is easy. I get those emails from a different chat platform.

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Micrasoft. Oh, it had a spelling mistake.

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Micra. On purpose. There's a bunch of them.

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No, no. That's good. Anyway, it's good that we do these training exercises now because while I've definitely

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been on high alert ever since the Twitter breach, not everyone is always on high alert.

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It's good to do these things as part of your ongoing training.

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Yeah. We did one that we didn't tell anyone that it was coming.

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Then we have told everyone that they will be happening moving forward because we wanted

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to see how many people would click on it and who.

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Yeah. But then after that, we just wanted people to be alert more than anything.

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So if we just tell them there is more coming and actually do it.

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Yeah. Then they're going to be alert all the time because they don't want to click on it again,

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which is great. That is like the goal. Good job.

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Yeah. Good job, team. Who clicked?

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I ain't telling you. Oh, yeah. Come on, you guys.

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You're not. No one. No way that's happening.

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Wasn't me. I'm not saying anything.

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Wasn't me. Oh, you're saying I thought you said, was it me?

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I was like, you're on the tee. No, no, it was not me.

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Did you even have her in the shower?

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That's a song reference, right? Weird shower.

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Wasn't me. Yes. Look gets there.

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Obviously. Okay. Dan, can you give us another rich myth?

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I'm going to do that. I can't remember which one you lambasted me for.

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Given how long y'all worked together at the seemingly close relationships that you have

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at LMG, if you had to move on to a new job, how hard would it be to get settled in with

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a new team? Also, Yacht? Yacht's dead.

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The mooring's not included in the sale and there's nowhere to moor it here, so it's dead.

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As for, man, how hard would it be to get it settled in with a new team?

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I don't even have a hard time getting to know new people here these days compared to

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the early days, because in the early days I had to. I was directly exposed to every single person on the team every day.

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Stop.

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We have HR now, but she's... I had direct contact with every...

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Keep going, you'll get it. I worked directly.

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There you go. I bet you were. With every member.

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You're on purpose now. You're on purpose.

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Prove it wasn't always on purpose. Fair enough.

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And I had to, right?

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So there was no choice, whereas now I have to go...

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It's like the opposite. It's the complete opposite. I have to go way out of my way to interact with a lot of people on the team, like to

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the point where to interact with a handful of new people, I'll be like, okay, let's take

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the whole company to Disneyland, you know, which was cool.

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A lot of fun. It was fun. Yeah, we're back now.

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What? Well, no, I mean, we didn't talk about it much before we left, so now that we're back.

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Okay, I just want to say Floatplane, you guys got an exclusive video out of that.

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I explicitly forbade multiple people to work on that project, so I would like to make that

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very clear, and I'm going to speak to the managers who approved some people working on

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that and tell them it is not approved next time. Wait, did Sammy like get told no by dad?

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So when it asked mom? I don't know if Sammy ever talked to me, but I saw people with cameras and I said, you

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better not be working. That's not work, right?

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And they assured me that they were working on personal vlogs for like their own thing,

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and I was like, okay. Oh, I mean, I think the whole Floatplane exclusive was just Sammy.

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Was it? I think so. Okay.

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I'll have to make sure. I mean, there's people that like feature in the video for sure, but I mean, the footage

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of the camera capturing the footage, I think was just Sammy's.

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I don't think other ones contributed. I'm not sure though.

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Sammy and Chad today. Sammy? Oh dude, Sammy can't be controlled, even if he was.

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Would you want him to be controlled? Yes, I would.

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He's not supposed to be working.

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He's a free stallion. I had a long talk with him at CES about how he needs to like say no more and like stuff

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like that. Well, it's not even a matter of him saying no. He was talking about like how much he was working and I was like, brother, you need

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to chill. It's a matter of me explicitly saying, no, you're not allowed to work on that and him

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doing it anyway. Like that's a completely different dynamic.

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Did you actually tell him that? I don't know if I talked to Sammy.

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I didn't think anyone was going to be doing it because I know at least one or two other

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people that were doing it for personal vlogs. Okay. Well, that's fine.

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I told like, I know that was a thing. Okay. I told people that's fine.

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Yeah. But people were not supposed to be working. It was supposed to be a workcation, a case from work.

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Yeah. Yeah. Anyway.

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Yeah. Yeah. Hi, future me podcast listener.

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Looking for the mailing team that's DHL.

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What's the hardest part of each one of your jobs?

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Mailing team. Like DHL, the carrier.

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Which one of us is H? H.

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What's the hardest? Does this person just think that like people use random letters to address the show?

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Maybe. Maybe. DHL.

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You know what? Okay. It's a new one.

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People are saying Dan, D-H-A-N. Then who's D?

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Dan. Okay. Well, anyway.

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Duke. Duke. Did you see I was wearing my Luke Newcombe shirt?

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Yeah. Disney? I commented on it.

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Nice. By your facial expression, I thought you might not have noticed.

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Dude, my getup was actually outstanding. You want to know the craziest thing about that?

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Mm. Emma almost wore hers. Her Duke Newcombe shirt?

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Yeah. That is awesome. And I was like, oh man, let's not.

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Oh, here, I'm going to send this to you, Dan.

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Okay. Okay. This is one of the better shots that I got.

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If you both showed up wearing this, that would have been too much.

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Oh, you guys are always so cute together.

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Let me see. It goes there. Do you want to show that?

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Actually, no. I got a better one. I got a better one.

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I got a better one. This is one of my favorite shots because.

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Who kindness in hand? It kind of looks like I'm being photo bombed, except like, obviously, I know the person.

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So I go ahead and pop this one up.

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Give me the other way. Oh, yeah.

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Like Jake just looks like a random guy that jumped into my picture.

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That's a great photo. Man, they're, I don't want to glaze Disney, but they are very good at the whole ambiance thing.

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Oh, yeah. It's definitely a vibe.

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So note the custom Mickey Mouse ears that were given to me by the one and only Mr. Daniel

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Besser. Are those amazing? I wore them all day.

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I'm so happy that you like them. I wore them all day.

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And for all the rides where there was like some risk that they'd come off or whatever.

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I took them out. I put them in my commuter bag in the little like secondary sleeve and put it down all carefully.

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I was like, I'm not losing these. I let my daughter wear them for a very, very short period of time.

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I thought you would be like, you're a, you're a, you're a.

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No, why? That's awesome. Okay, good.

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Who are you even talking about? I don't know. It's always interesting to see what.

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So I let my daughter wear them for a little while.

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And then the second she was inattentive with them.

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Yeah, you can pop that one up as well. Okay. The second she was inattentive with them, I was like, I'm taking those back because

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those need to not get lost today.

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So cool. It's got a little sublimated Linus wide Linus face.

03:10:06.020 --> 03:10:09.020
Yeah, because why wouldn't it? All right.

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The hardest part of each of my jobs, the hardest part is HR.

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The hardest part is other people. I'm answering proactively on behalf of all of us.

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Yeah. All right. We can move on.

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Dramatically do not disagree at all.

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Sick. Linus, how do you deal with being the boss of employees who are significantly older

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than you? When was the first time you became a boss of someone much older?

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And how did you handle the new role? I think mutual respect is the best way.

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That's not always an option, especially up the chain.

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Like if you have a boss that you don't really respect, there's nothing you can really

03:10:51.020 --> 03:10:57.020
do about that. Whereas when you have someone who works for you that you don't respect, like you can

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do something about that. Wait, what?

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I thought they were talking about ages. Yeah, I know.

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I'm just saying that if you are the boss of someone who is significantly older than you,

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mutual respect and just treating each other with mutual respect makes the age difference

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not matter that much. Sorry, I probably should have started with that.

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Sure. I was like, what are you talking about?

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Because I think that there's an inherent sort of, I think that everyone, or at least

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I hope that everyone understands that there's an experience that comes with age.

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Yeah. However, I would think that someone working for me would also, again, so I would respect

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that experience, but I would also expect that they respect the experience that I have specifically

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and what it is that we do. And if they don't, then I would think they just wouldn't want to work here and I would

03:11:50.540 --> 03:11:56.660
think they would probably leave. And in the same way, if someone is working on the team that I don't respect, and to

03:11:56.660 --> 03:12:02.060
me, not respecting someone means that they have to behave in a way that is egregious.

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Yes. Not going to have anything to do with it. It's not like they flubbed a spelling error in an email.

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That's not something that is not respectable. It's more like theft or being generally unethical.

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That's the kind of thing. So to me, a lack of respect means that you should just not work together if you can manage

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it. But yeah, I think that age is a number to a degree, but it's also kind of easy for me

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to say because I don't have a lot of people older than me who have ever reported directly

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to me. I'm an old guy at this company.

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I'm not even 40, but I am one of the oldest people here.

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I think I have a few, never been a problem at all.

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Never been something that's even been brought up.

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Never mattered at all. Well, it doesn't matter as long as there's mutual respect.

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Yeah. And I think that's, yeah, I think it's never been brought up because we've just always

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been good. I mean, I don't know, like early Floatplane, like really early Floatplane before video

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calling was cheap and easy and everybody did it.

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A bunch of those hires, I had never even seen the person like the first time we ever had

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a Floatplane get together thing was the first time I saw every one of those people.

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That's wild. Fun fact. When was the first Floatplane get together?

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Was it Christmas party? What was it?

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Well, it was the Floatplane Christmas party. Yeah.

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Because you guys did a separate one. Because you've made us split off. Yeah.

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You can't say it that way. And then it was a horrible disaster because I took a bunch of dev snowboarding.

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Oh, that's what it was. Snowboarding.

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I remember that. Didn't I attend it though, still?

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Because I definitely, no, I didn't know I didn't go snowboarding, but. Oh, we, they were up here for like a while.

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Yeah. I don't remember what it was.

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I don't know if you did that year. Maybe you came to dinner or something.

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That must be it. I think so. I definitely did part of the event.

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A later year, we had part of it at your house and we like played board games or something.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I forgot about that one.

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That wasn't the first one. No, no, I'm thinking of the snowboarding one because I remember, I remember you and

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I talking about how you sort of had determined that snowboarding might not have been the

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best choice. Yeah, we pivoted. We changed to board games and it was great.

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Yeah. Everyone nerded out really hard, stayed up late, have a great time.

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That's good. They required a pivot, classic software stuff.

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It's all good. That's good. Yeah.

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Full rewrite. Hey, Dan, Luke and Linus, long time listener, first time merch message.

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Linus, when was the last time you got royally mad at everyone and why?

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Also come to Australia. We love you guys. At everyone?

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Okay. See, this is where I end up getting myself into trouble because on the one hand, we're

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a small company in the grand scheme of things. We were down at Disney and one of the things we talked about while we were down there because

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it was a work trip and we did actually do some work on the trip even if I told people,

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don't make videos because that's not why we're here.

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But one of the things that came up was that Disney apparently employs, what was the number?

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36,000. 36,000 people. Directly.

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But there was like even way more indirectly because of all the hotel infrastructure and

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everything else, restaurants, everything that's around. 36,000 people at those parks in California and just to put that in perspective, Disney,

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Land and California Adventure Park are 360 times the size of Linus Media Group, Creator

03:15:57.340 --> 03:16:06.620
Warehouse and Floatplane Media combined. We are a tiny company in the grand scheme of things, but when you ask me a question

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like when was the last time you got royally mad at everyone, I'm going to respond and

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say, we're such a big company that how could I ever be mad at everyone?

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It's not like if we get some analysis wrong on a data platform, we're going to be mad

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at Sarah. What did she do? Did she draw something wrong?

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Why would I be mad at her?

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I can imagine reasons because she supervises stuff as well, doesn't she?

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Product managers or project managers? No, I was saying data analysis for a review though.

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She would have nothing to do with that. I can't think of a single project.

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We have 100 employees top gear. I can't think of a single project that would involve everyone that I could get mad at everyone

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for. Can you think of anything? No.

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What could I do? We do such varied things as well. I can imagine a company that's many, many, many times our size that does one thing.

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We do so many things. We have people that work here that I've barely met.

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How could I be mad at them? Oh man. Okay.

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So I was going to mention this. That is absolutely a thing. There are actually people that work here that I have probably never met.

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But another weird one is when I'll be talking to someone and genuinely think like, okay,

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yeah, this person's probably been working here for like six months or something.

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And then it'll like kind of come up in conversation.

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They're like, oh yeah, like three and a half years. And I'm like, uh.

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Especially in the CW side. What?

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Like how could I be mad at them? Oh man.

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Okay. So I was going to mention this earlier. That is absolutely a thing.

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Especially in the CW side. What? Like how many times have you interacted with Bridget?

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Yeah. I mean, it's happened, but not very many.

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I'm going to look it up. Hold on. I'm going to guess first.

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I'm going to say four years. It's been a hot minute. I know that much.

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Bridget's been here for a while.

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Yeah. Oh crap. I might get it wrong.

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Oh crap. And yeah. And then there's people where like, you know their name and you know what they do.

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No, I'm pretty close. But you've never actually necessarily met them.

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Dude, I nailed it. I nailed it. It's like foreign change.

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Yeah. Let's go. That's crazy.

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Yeah. New people. New people.

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Bridget Bergman. Fashion designer. There's the email.

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Yep. I found it. Okay.

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All right. Dude, I was pretty close, but like, dude, that's wild. That's wild.

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Like she's been here for a freaking long time. Done a lot of like really cool stuff, but you have never had any reason to deal with Miss Bergman.

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Because why would you? Yeah. Why would you ever be mad at her?

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Well, I think we... You know, like... I think we...

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Yeah. I think she was in the...

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Maybe not... I think she was maybe in the conversation chain for that thing.

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Oh, okay. Maybe, but I'm not certain.

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Yeah. So you might have been CC'd on the same emails at some point.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's honestly like probably it.

03:19:03.940 --> 03:19:06.940
Yeah, sure. Okay. Do you know...

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Do you even know who Robert from CW is? Actually, yes, but this is one of those situations where I don't know if I've...

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Wait, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Would you recognize his face?

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It took me a second to parse it, yes. You would?

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Okay. In that situation, yes. All right, let's see.

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Let me see if I can... Let me see if I can come up with someone. I don't know if I want to be quizzed on this live.

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Okay. You know what? I'm not gonna...

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No, I'm not gonna... I'm not gonna do that because like honestly, you could get me just as bad.

03:19:32.940 --> 03:19:35.940
Yeah. Oh yeah, dude. Don't even...

03:19:35.940 --> 03:19:38.940
Don't even... Don't even... It's not worth it.

03:19:38.940 --> 03:19:43.940
No, I'm not... I'm not going to, but like I could get essentially anyone at the company because of footballing.

03:19:43.940 --> 03:19:46.940
Oh yeah, sure. Like... 100%.

03:19:46.940 --> 03:19:52.940
Yeah. So yeah, I've never been royally mad at everyone probably not since like the house days was the

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last time. We lost an entire shoot and the reason I was mad at everyone was because our data handling

03:19:59.940 --> 03:20:06.940
practices were sloppy across the board. So I wasn't just mad at the person who happened to lose the data.

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I was mad at the general laissez-faire attitude that we had towards dealing with SD cards,

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ingesting data, ingesting it only to the server and never to a local drive.

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And so I like yelled at basically everyone except you I think.

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I don't think I was mad at you about that because what would you have done? Yeah, I don't think so.

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Okay. Enabled at them? I've had my times.

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Oh yeah, I've been mad at you.

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The sorts of systemic failures are awful.

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I don't know. In some ways it's like, in some ways it's easier these days because like we both kind of, it's

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very easy for us to be like, hey, like, I don't know, was I, did I communicate that wrong?

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Like I messaged you the other day because I was like, I didn't mean to be dismissive about

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something. I hope it didn't come across that way. Like we're like, that's a lot easier these days, but I think because of the fact that

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we can kind of say anything to each other, it's a lot easier to like maybe almost cross

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the line. Just flow off. Like I'm not interested in this conversation right now.

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I'm going to leave. You know, like we can just like say stuff like that to each other.

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It's pretty hard. I was having, I think I was having this conversation with Emma where she was like, like, what would

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Linus have to do to like cross like said line basically, and I don't think it was a negative

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thing. I guess. Okay.

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No, no. I'm going to write down some ideas.

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I'll write down some ideas. Hold on. Hold on.

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Hold on. Okay. Let me think.

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Oh, I did. I have a quoted answer.

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To be completely honest, I think it was pretty true is like some of these, I'm just like

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some of these, I'm sitting there going like, I don't even think it'd be enough.

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Like, like, like, you know, ask you to do something totally unethical.

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It's like you wouldn't do it, but I don't, I don't know if you'd care.

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I've got one. I've got one. I've got one.

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Okay. Go ahead. What I said was you'd have to fundamentally, I would have to, it would have to be something

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that made me think that you fundamentally changed as a human. Oh, okay.

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I had disrespect your family. That was that.

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I think you would never do that though. I guess.

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That's where the answer kind of went. But I didn't get the... Why did you push this down?

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Oh, because I was going to lean this down so you could read it.

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Oh, okay. Because I fundamentally changed.

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But like, but like, you can do this stuff. You can, I mean, there's, there's so many things where like, I don't know, it would

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piss me off, but it's not going to like, to actually sever the link.

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Yeah. Like, I don't know, man.

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Like I'm trying to, like I ran, I ran into Rich the other day at like the skate sharpening

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place of all, of all places and, and like, that's what, that's what kind of, that's actually

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what made me think of like, like if I, if I had like...

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You just wouldn't do that. Yeah. That's why it comes back to that.

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I'm trying to think of like what, how I could have treated him in such a way that he would

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message you and go, yo, man, that was weird. You know, right?

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Like, like I didn't, I didn't talk to him because I was on a call and I was just like,

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like, I couldn't really, I couldn't really chat with him, but like, I don't know, man,

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because I know that you're very, like you're very protective of like your people, which

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is chill. I'm super, super into that. But that was the only thing, because I can't think of anything I could do to you.

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That's why I said, that's why I went with your family.

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Because I think that I could, I could like, you know, like I, like I could try to physically,

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you know, inflict pain. Look at, look at, look at, he doesn't, he doesn't give a s***, right?

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Like, so, and I, and even if I could, I don't, I don't think that would be, I don't think

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that would be insurmountable. Nope. I think you could put it behind you.

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I think if I was like, hey, I had like a hormonal issue.

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I had a weird reaction to a medication I'm on. I, I, I was in a really messed up place and, and I, you know, I, I'm going to do better.

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I think you'd be like, okay. Yeah. Like whatever. Yeah. Right.

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But if, but if, so if I were to like, if I were to like, you know, be a, I've complete,

03:24:28.320 --> 03:24:31.680
you know, jerk, brute, like you and slap someone. I can't believe I did that.

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You know, if I did that to you, I think you'd basically be over it.

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But if I did that to like your mom. Oh yeah.

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But then that's, that's one of those situations where like, that's why I said it would require

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fundamental change as a person, because you would never do that. You would need me to have a good reason, I think though, either way.

03:24:53.000 --> 03:24:56.040
You'd need a good reason because I think you're a rational person.

03:24:56.440 --> 03:24:59.360
Yeah, but how you can have a good reason to slap my mom?

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What if we wouldn't get the Guinness World Record if I didn't do it?

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Most, most moms laughed and you like ran out of moms.

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Yeah. Okay. The reference there is the one time, the one time he really looked like he could

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murder me was when he thought I like abandoned him on Mount Albert.

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I was having like pretty severe altitude sickness and I booked it down the hill

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because we had one last guy that had to sign the thing and he was a minor or

03:25:37.960 --> 03:25:42.480
something and I had to get to his parent so that his signature counted so that the

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world record was captured. I also didn't know that Luke was suffering altitude sickness.

03:25:48.560 --> 03:25:55.520
I thought he was like, going to be fine. So when he reached the bottom, he didn't know that I was like booking it down the

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mountain because I was on a mission to make sure that we succeeded.

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I've never really talked about this. I don't think maybe I've alluded to it, but some of the other people who participated

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in Highlander did not want everyone to make it and said so explicitly, which made

03:26:13.640 --> 03:26:18.280
me extremely angry and like actually did actions to try to inhibit the chance of

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other people making. Yes. It was it, it permanently burned a bridge between people.

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Yeah. I'm not going to get any more specific than that. It is not worth it.

03:26:29.200 --> 03:26:31.480
That was not mad at everyone. No, because that was not everyone on the trip.

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And so as part of making sure that the mission was successful, because we couldn't

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get the record for the highest altitude land party, unless a certain number of people

03:26:43.040 --> 03:26:47.400
participated, something that the people working against the team.

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Oh, I didn't realize, I guess. Oh, well, this is a problem.

03:26:51.760 --> 03:26:53.720
Maybe I should have actually been helpful.

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So part of making sure we succeeded was we actually recruited randoms who weren't

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part of our group to participate in the land, who happened to be hiking it.

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One of them, for some reason, whether it was because they were a minor or whether

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it's because I forgot to get them to sign at the top and I had to catch up. I don't remember what it was.

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Their signature had to be witnessed by or something. I don't remember why, but I had to, I had to like track them down.

03:27:19.440 --> 03:27:22.920
I had to go down with them and I had to like catch up to them on the way down.

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This mountain, the reason why getting down it was so important was because at a

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certain time of day, there's a huge chance of lightning storms and one did happen.

03:27:33.040 --> 03:27:38.680
We literally saw lightning hit a tree in front of us and it was very close.

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You can verify this claim from Austin Evans and Paul, who were both with me at

03:27:44.200 --> 03:27:49.160
the time when it happened. The second that happened, everyone, we had been hiking all day and the second

03:27:49.160 --> 03:27:54.440
that happened, everyone just flat sprinted. It was a very energizing moment.

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He's not paying attention. I'm shocked. I'm shocked.

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There it is. That one gets it.

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Sorry. So anyway, Luke didn't know that.

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Yeah. Luke didn't know that I didn't know that he was in rough shape.

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So when he got down.

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There was a very good reason like any narcissist would have.

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Or maybe or maybe I just do things for a reason. I don't know who knows.

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But yeah, I don't know, man. We, yeah, I think fundamental change is a way better way of putting it because

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that encompasses sort of all the stuff that I could try to brainstorm.

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All right, what else we got? We got lots. Hey, Dan, Luke and Linus.

03:28:50.520 --> 03:28:55.040
I've already read this one. Hey, LLD, fellow home theater enthusiast here.

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I'm constantly battling the ever frustrating HDMI CEC can't even control.

03:28:59.440 --> 03:29:03.680
Any tips? Will it ever get better? Do I just need to buy an old harmony rip?

03:29:05.040 --> 03:29:09.680
Yeah, you do just need to buy an old harmony remote because I am also having

03:29:09.680 --> 03:29:13.120
some serious issues with CEC. Like it's so frustrating.

03:29:14.080 --> 03:29:18.320
No matter how I configure it across my shield, my receiver, my TV.

03:29:19.520 --> 03:29:24.640
For some reason, the shield will just rip the input back randomly sometimes,

03:29:24.640 --> 03:29:28.880
even when it's like asleep. And I can't even begin to fathom it.

03:29:28.880 --> 03:29:34.560
It drives me absolutely crazy. When CEC works, it's super magic and great.

03:29:34.560 --> 03:29:41.040
And then when it doesn't work, it's infuriating and drives me absolutely

03:29:41.040 --> 03:29:47.680
bat crap crazy. I, man, what a great device that would be just like an HDMI pass through that

03:29:47.680 --> 03:29:54.640
actually just does like great CEC handling. And you could just like SSH into like that device.

03:29:54.640 --> 03:30:00.160
It could be, man, it'd have to be super low power. It'd have to be like powerable over HDMI or something.

03:30:00.160 --> 03:30:04.880
I don't know. And it'd have to maintain HDCP somehow. It basically, it's an impossible dream.

03:30:04.880 --> 03:30:12.640
But like a coupler that just had like proper CEC handling and was just like

03:30:12.640 --> 03:30:16.320
programmed to deal with all the random stupid edge cases would be super cool.

03:30:16.320 --> 03:30:20.080
Because in theory, all I need is CEC.

03:30:20.080 --> 03:30:22.640
But in practice, it's just not good enough. Yeah.

03:30:25.360 --> 03:30:28.640
Hello, Linux Danbian and TempLukeOS.

03:30:29.680 --> 03:30:34.080
That's a good one. This is new. Collecting gift cards until I can get a screwdriver.

03:30:34.960 --> 03:30:39.040
Sorry. Who writes the one liners that appear after the intro and the videos?

03:30:39.040 --> 03:30:43.680
Do you have a favorite past one liner? I can't even remember enough of them to pick a favorite one.

03:30:43.680 --> 03:30:46.800
There's definitely been some absolutely golden ones.

03:30:46.800 --> 03:30:50.720
It's usually the writer of the video. Every once in a while, the editor will pitch in with an idea.

03:30:50.720 --> 03:30:55.840
Sometimes I'll pitch one in not much lately. But yeah, they're, I love it.

03:30:55.840 --> 03:30:56.640
I love it. They're great.

03:30:59.360 --> 03:31:04.880
Luke Dan, what's your squat bench deadlift? Powerlifter working in tech would love to get lift in.

03:31:04.880 --> 03:31:08.640
645, 445, 550. Why didn't you ask me?

03:31:09.920 --> 03:31:12.880
Wow. You don't even lift? Wow. Bro. Wow.

03:31:14.240 --> 03:31:18.560
They're all that cake master. No one ever asks what it would take for me to not forgive you.

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That right there, red line. All that matters.

03:31:23.520 --> 03:31:27.120
Still not asking those questions. Have you ever done any of those?

03:31:28.400 --> 03:31:31.840
Nope. Yeah. Okay.

03:31:31.840 --> 03:31:35.680
Well, there we go. Carry on. Those are some pretty sick numbers.

03:31:35.680 --> 03:31:41.440
Good job. I don't do powerlifting. A lot of my stuff is for therapeutic reasons.

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For that reason, I've been having some not major, but definitely existing back

03:31:48.560 --> 03:31:55.360
problems where like if I do anything that really involves my back after two days,

03:31:55.360 --> 03:31:58.400
it's always two. So it won't be the next day. It won't be the day after that.

03:31:58.400 --> 03:32:02.720
I'll have notable back pain and limited range of motion.

03:32:02.720 --> 03:32:11.120
So I've been trying to solve that for quite a while now. I haven't done squats or deadlifts in like probably at least six months.

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So I can't really know to claim where I'm at right now.

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And I also never do anything in reps less than five.

03:32:19.600 --> 03:32:24.240
So my peak, not now. I'm certain it's lower now because I haven't been doing it,

03:32:24.240 --> 03:32:28.080
but my peak for squats was 335 for five.

03:32:28.800 --> 03:32:32.800
My peak for deadlifts was 315 for five.

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And my peak for bench,

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did I actually get it? I know I did 220 for five.

03:32:44.080 --> 03:32:50.160
And I think I got like 225 for four and a half, but didn't quite get the fifth.

03:32:50.160 --> 03:32:53.680
That's why I peaked out. That's what I'm at currently.

03:32:56.320 --> 03:32:59.120
I have like, I don't know, I'm just so broken all the time.

03:33:00.640 --> 03:33:06.320
I used to be able to do more stuff, but like right now the thing that's impeding my bench,

03:33:06.320 --> 03:33:10.400
my rotator cuff used to be the problem. I've kind of solved that. Now it's my front delt.

03:33:12.400 --> 03:33:15.600
I've been shifting to a lot of pushups lately instead of bench press because

03:33:16.320 --> 03:33:22.000
when I load the bar up enough, I'm getting a bunch of pain and crunchiness in my front delt.

03:33:22.000 --> 03:33:24.320
And I'm really not sure what that is. So I'm working on it.

03:33:26.160 --> 03:33:31.920
Yeah, I mean, I'm all of it for me. Like I have, I have no specific goals other than I'm trying to be

03:33:33.200 --> 03:33:37.360
healthier and less broken. So if I run into some form of impediment,

03:33:38.240 --> 03:33:42.080
I am happy to skip trying to progress weights for a while,

03:33:42.080 --> 03:33:49.600
if it means that I can try to fix some part of me. And as far as I can tell, the stronger I'm getting and more able I'm getting,

03:33:49.600 --> 03:33:58.160
it's not that I'm breaking in various ways. I think I am unveiling problems and then addressing them and then continuing forward.

03:33:58.160 --> 03:33:59.520
That's what it feels like to me at least.

03:34:01.360 --> 03:34:07.120
But yeah, it's going okay. And Dan, when was the last time you were at the gym, Dan?

03:34:08.080 --> 03:34:09.920
Uh, May 2nd.

03:34:12.560 --> 03:34:15.200
Of last year? Yeah. Well, it can't be of this year, I guess.

03:34:15.920 --> 03:34:20.240
Yeah. Um, I will be coming back soon.

03:34:22.560 --> 03:34:24.960
You should really check out the knees or toes guy. Knees or toes guys, great.

03:34:25.840 --> 03:34:29.680
I have been checking out for quite a while.

03:34:29.680 --> 03:34:34.240
Um, quite genuinely, mostly his content,

03:34:34.240 --> 03:34:38.800
but a variety of other people's content as well is why my knees are like really good right now.

03:34:40.080 --> 03:34:43.040
There was a while there where my knees were screwed and my knees are solid.

03:34:44.240 --> 03:34:48.960
My knees are absolutely not the limiting factor when it comes to things like squats anymore.

03:34:48.960 --> 03:34:57.040
And I go pretty deep. My, my problem is, is yeah, the weird, really delayed onset issues with,

03:34:57.600 --> 03:35:02.720
with my back and whatever is happening. This is very, the front delt thing is very recent.

03:35:03.200 --> 03:35:07.200
Um, so whatever's happening with my front delt and the delayed onset issues in my back

03:35:07.200 --> 03:35:10.880
are by far the main problems right now. But I can talk about this for literally ever.

03:35:10.880 --> 03:35:14.160
So we should probably skip to the next message. Yeah.

03:35:14.160 --> 03:35:17.920
I gotta apologize again for dipping for so long. It's whatever, man.

03:35:17.920 --> 03:35:21.200
I just, I don't know. I think it's good to stay active.

03:35:21.200 --> 03:35:25.360
There's, there's that. Oh man. Now I'm going to talk about more health stuff and we're going to get another video made.

03:35:25.360 --> 03:35:31.200
So let's, let's skip it. Anyway, hi Linus.

03:35:31.200 --> 03:35:35.120
Can you update us on how your workflow has changed since Terran joined?

03:35:35.120 --> 03:35:40.000
Has it worked out the way that you hoped? What specifically have been able to spend more and less time on?

03:35:40.800 --> 03:35:44.400
I'd say the biggest thing is, you know, when I have an issue,

03:35:44.400 --> 03:35:48.160
I have a single or a couple of points of contact that I can bring it to.

03:35:48.800 --> 03:35:53.920
It's not always going to be resolved instantly because the real world is messy.

03:35:53.920 --> 03:35:59.680
In theory, everything is perfect. You have an org chart and you have the reporting lines and you, but in practice,

03:35:59.680 --> 03:36:01.120
it's nothing's ever that simple.

03:36:03.120 --> 03:36:06.800
But I'd say that specifically I've been able to spend, you know,

03:36:06.800 --> 03:36:12.240
less time on performance management and more time on making videos,

03:36:12.240 --> 03:36:14.800
which is I think the best thing for the company.

03:36:16.160 --> 03:36:19.280
When we were, when we were looking, talking recently about how

03:36:19.280 --> 03:36:23.840
viewership had kind of recovered to, to pre-controversy levels, right?

03:36:24.560 --> 03:36:28.000
It's a little lower right now, but the reason for that is in the last month,

03:36:28.000 --> 03:36:32.240
we've uploaded way fewer videos. The per video viewership.

03:36:32.240 --> 03:36:36.640
Yeah, we're, we're banking up videos right now for, for the next little bit.

03:36:38.720 --> 03:36:43.280
And so even when things were kind of back to, to pre-levels,

03:36:44.240 --> 03:36:51.840
we still weren't uploading as much as we had been before. So we're actually in a healthier state from, from that point of view.

03:36:51.840 --> 03:36:56.880
So I, and I do think that the best thing for the company is me being able to spend more time

03:36:56.880 --> 03:37:01.280
on the creative elements of things and less time on the business administration side.

03:37:02.080 --> 03:37:06.320
There's a bit of a misconception, I think.

03:37:06.320 --> 03:37:10.400
And I think part of it is the way that I've represented myself.

03:37:10.400 --> 03:37:14.080
There's a bit of a misconception that I'm somehow incapable of, you know,

03:37:14.080 --> 03:37:18.400
leadership, incapable of setting a strategic direction.

03:37:19.360 --> 03:37:23.680
Well, I'm very self-effacing in my sense of humor.

03:37:23.680 --> 03:37:27.920
And I think a lot of the time I will, I will publicly undermine myself

03:37:28.720 --> 03:37:33.120
in order to, you know, build up someone else's role or their contribution.

03:37:33.120 --> 03:37:40.480
And I think that what I forgot or didn't realize or hoped to give people more credit for than that

03:37:40.480 --> 03:37:46.720
is that people wouldn't take that seriously. They would understand that while I have gotten extremely lucky to arrive where I have,

03:37:47.520 --> 03:37:51.520
I also did, like, run the company until we had a hundred people.

03:37:51.520 --> 03:37:55.600
And it, I didn't step down because I couldn't do the job.

03:37:55.600 --> 03:37:59.520
I stepped down because I couldn't do two jobs, more than two jobs.

03:37:59.520 --> 03:38:04.320
I mean, I was our primary host. I was our editor-in-chief and I was our CEO.

03:38:04.320 --> 03:38:08.640
It was not tenable. Also still, and like, I was also-

03:38:08.640 --> 03:38:12.800
Realistically, you did more stuff than that. Realistically, like a chief creative officer as well.

03:38:12.800 --> 03:38:19.280
Like, there was a lot that I was doing. And like, does that apply to the ideation for Creator Warehouse?

03:38:20.080 --> 03:38:25.840
Yeah, I mean, sure. Yeah, there's, and then there's Creator Warehouse too, which I didn't put a ton of my hours into every week,

03:38:25.840 --> 03:38:35.680
but I certainly did put some. So I think it's less that, you know, I wasn't able to do things.

03:38:35.680 --> 03:38:43.680
And it was more that I have a hard time investing energy into things that I don't enjoy

03:38:43.760 --> 03:38:50.000
and I don't want to do. And I think that I do my best work when I'm focused on the things that I do enjoy.

03:38:50.000 --> 03:38:55.280
So like, I did some of my best work this week, right before Wancho,

03:38:55.280 --> 03:38:59.200
when I was working with Alex on building a system in the new

03:39:01.200 --> 03:39:04.640
Callios Streetcom tower.

03:39:04.640 --> 03:39:07.680
Check this thing out. Was that on Build Corner? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

03:39:07.680 --> 03:39:11.520
Isn't it beautiful? Oh, I know. Oh. I know.

03:39:11.520 --> 03:39:18.000
So it's this thing. Oh. This was that company that like scammed everybody, basically.

03:39:18.000 --> 03:39:24.000
Yeah, here we go. Kickstarter project by Callios. It's been resurrected through a partnership with Streetcom.

03:39:25.120 --> 03:39:28.240
We didn't want to work with them in like any kind.

03:39:28.240 --> 03:39:32.080
We didn't want to take anything from them. We didn't cover them at Computex that year

03:39:32.080 --> 03:39:38.560
because they didn't agree to refund people. But what we did say was we'd buy it.

03:39:38.560 --> 03:39:42.240
So we bought one of the backers who wanted out.

03:39:42.640 --> 03:39:46.320
We bought their pre-order. So we've got it.

03:39:46.320 --> 03:39:50.000
We've purchased it like anyone else would if we're building in it. It's super cool.

03:39:50.000 --> 03:39:54.240
I definitely have some misgivings about its history

03:39:54.240 --> 03:39:58.320
and how it got to here. But I'm having a blast with that.

03:39:58.320 --> 03:40:02.400
It's like, would I rather do that or would I rather look at budgeting?

03:40:04.240 --> 03:40:08.480
I can look at budgeting. I can work on spreadsheets. I did it for years before I worked here.

03:40:08.480 --> 03:40:11.680
But it's not where I think my passion lies.

03:40:11.680 --> 03:40:17.760
And it's not where I think my greatest value lies. So spending more time on things like that,

03:40:18.800 --> 03:40:23.360
which doesn't mean zero time on administrative stuff. Like I still find problems.

03:40:23.360 --> 03:40:27.600
And the way that Taryn puts it is, you need to be careful what you say

03:40:27.600 --> 03:40:32.560
because you still wield a lot of soft power is the way that he kind of phrased it.

03:40:32.560 --> 03:40:35.680
Because even though I'm not someone's direct boss or whatever,

03:40:35.680 --> 03:40:41.440
I have to be cognizant that my words and actions

03:40:41.440 --> 03:40:45.680
can carry a lot of weight. Asterisk also all of the hard power.

03:40:47.680 --> 03:40:51.760
Yes, but I go out of my way to not exercise that. I know, I'm just saying.

03:40:51.760 --> 03:40:55.920
You're not wrong. But that is part of the reason why there is the understanding

03:40:55.920 --> 03:40:58.000
of the soft power being carried is like,

03:40:58.960 --> 03:41:03.120
you can't, as much as you don't use it, you can't ignore that that exists.

03:41:03.120 --> 03:41:08.000
It's all, but it's also not all because there's an element of mutually assured destruction.

03:41:08.000 --> 03:41:11.360
Like if I were to exercise my hard power.

03:41:11.360 --> 03:41:15.120
But the effect of mutually assured destruction

03:41:15.120 --> 03:41:18.640
on others versus on you. Is still destruction. Oh, no.

03:41:19.920 --> 03:41:23.520
I mean, you're right. In terms of...

03:41:24.400 --> 03:41:28.800
If mutually assured destruction happens, you'll be fine. Day to day, I will be fine.

03:41:28.800 --> 03:41:32.480
But in terms of other things that matter to me a lot,

03:41:32.480 --> 03:41:38.400
I mean, not just shrink, it can be destroyed. It's, I think people from the outside

03:41:38.400 --> 03:41:42.960
probably don't realize how fragile organizations are.

03:41:43.760 --> 03:41:47.920
And I mean that not just about ourselves. I mean, look what's happened to Intel

03:41:47.920 --> 03:41:52.320
over a shockingly short period of time. Like organizations are made up of people.

03:41:52.320 --> 03:41:56.000
They're made up of processes. They're made up of a structure

03:41:56.000 --> 03:41:58.720
that it turns out is shockingly fragile.

03:41:59.360 --> 03:42:05.200
Like it only takes a few pieces to kind of fall out of place

03:42:05.200 --> 03:42:07.120
and the whole thing can come crumbling down.

03:42:11.200 --> 03:42:12.240
I think it's actually...

03:42:15.120 --> 03:42:20.480
I think most companies are wildly more fragile

03:42:20.480 --> 03:42:25.040
than people think. Yeah. I mean, look at Intel. Are you just repeating what I said on purpose?

03:42:25.040 --> 03:42:28.240
Did you say Intel? I was a little bit definitely reading chat.

03:42:29.360 --> 03:42:33.040
Hell, yeah. We don't have the same thoughts. Yeah, hold on.

03:42:33.040 --> 03:42:36.080
So unique username says, wait, what's this mutually assured destruction?

03:42:36.080 --> 03:42:39.200
So like, yeah, I could literally just go full flex

03:42:39.200 --> 03:42:42.320
and I could be like, Taran, you're fired. Luke, you're fired. Dan, you're fired.

03:42:42.320 --> 03:42:45.920
I don't know. I'm literally not going to sign your paychecks anymore. See you later.

03:42:45.920 --> 03:42:52.320
What? Then what? Like what for me now? Because like I, you have to have that mutual respect.

03:42:52.320 --> 03:42:57.120
I respect these people to do their jobs. They respect me to not do that.

03:42:57.120 --> 03:43:00.160
And there's like, there's almost like a tension.

03:43:00.160 --> 03:43:05.120
It's actually like literally how the whole world works. Yeah. I don't mean that. I don't mean that tension in a bad way.

03:43:05.120 --> 03:43:08.400
I mean the kind of tension that is like, have you seen those,

03:43:08.400 --> 03:43:10.640
have you seen those tables that are held up by tension?

03:43:12.720 --> 03:43:18.080
Trick kill. Oh yeah, those are super cool. Trick kill info plain chat said, no, Luke's free computers.

03:43:20.640 --> 03:43:23.920
That's the only reason he's here. These are super cool. These are super cool.

03:43:23.920 --> 03:43:26.080
All of these chains are loose.

03:43:28.080 --> 03:43:32.560
Well, they're, they're tense. Right. But they're, they're not, they're not like welded.

03:43:32.560 --> 03:43:36.560
They're not solid. Yeah. Yeah. Like they're, they're just chains. You could push it and it would perform.

03:43:36.560 --> 03:43:38.640
Yeah. And it'll like wobble.

03:43:39.840 --> 03:43:47.680
So there's like, there's a tension that, that holds everything together where we all sort of rely on each other.

03:43:50.560 --> 03:43:55.680
And it would, I can't, the organization is that such a size, such a scale.

03:43:55.680 --> 03:44:01.360
And again, I reemphasize, we are one 360th the size of Disneyland,

03:44:01.360 --> 03:44:06.800
just that park, right? But we are still at a size and scale and we do so many things that if I were to,

03:44:07.360 --> 03:44:14.960
if I were to just start cutting, the, the results could not be predicted

03:44:14.960 --> 03:44:21.680
other than that it would be disastrous. It's almost like, you know, not fully understanding what everyone does.

03:44:21.680 --> 03:44:26.480
You shouldn't just like run around cutting jobs.

03:44:27.920 --> 03:44:33.760
What? And then having to like rehire them because it turns out you're a big dumb idiot.

03:44:36.960 --> 03:44:40.320
Yeah. The nukes are going to be fine. They take care of themselves.

03:44:41.680 --> 03:44:41.920
Yeah.

03:44:45.360 --> 03:44:49.040
So that's what Floatplane does. Yeah. I didn't know that.

03:44:49.040 --> 03:44:52.960
Yeah. You flex too hard.

03:44:52.960 --> 03:44:56.000
You destroy the culture and then that destroys the company, right? Yeah.

03:44:56.560 --> 03:45:02.560
And I literally can't do it all myself anymore. There was a time when if the team were to come to me and say,

03:45:03.360 --> 03:45:09.200
we quit, you suck, right? Like this isn't a, this isn't collective bargaining.

03:45:09.200 --> 03:45:15.440
This is just f**k you. We out. You know, yeah. You wouldn't have maybe been able to do as much, but you could have kept the ship.

03:45:15.440 --> 03:45:19.440
Oh yeah, I could have kept the ship. The ship didn't do that much. The ship just like uploaded unboxings.

03:45:19.440 --> 03:45:24.080
Yeah. And I could hire someone to hold the thing.

03:45:24.080 --> 03:45:27.680
Yvonne could literally like, you know, like, like hold the camera.

03:45:27.680 --> 03:45:30.800
It did. Yeah, it did. Quite a few times. I mean, in the earlier early days.

03:45:30.800 --> 03:45:34.000
Yeah. But these days it's like, what?

03:45:34.000 --> 03:45:39.520
I'm going to, I'm going to like create Floatplane exclusives and do LTT and do ShortCircuit and

03:45:39.520 --> 03:45:42.720
coordinate, you know, procurement and develop a website.

03:45:42.720 --> 03:45:47.760
Don't forget the apps and come on. You're also going to lose all your institutional knowledge.

03:45:47.760 --> 03:45:52.160
There's still a lot that is still tribal here. Well, that's the thing, right?

03:45:52.160 --> 03:45:56.720
Is in the old days, every job role I had done at some point.

03:45:57.280 --> 03:46:03.840
Now that's not the case. There are literally people who work, who have years of experience here doing things I have never done.

03:46:07.760 --> 03:46:11.600
Tension. Mutually assured destruction.

03:46:13.600 --> 03:46:20.560
It's good. It's healthy. But again, it's largely how like, I mean, society kind of subsists on it.

03:46:20.560 --> 03:46:27.600
Yeah. I mean, it's a, it's a dog eat dog world, right? Like we're all, I mean, you've, you've described the, you've described the world as PVP.

03:46:27.600 --> 03:46:33.120
Constant PVP environment. But that doesn't mean that it's a zero sum game.

03:46:33.120 --> 03:46:38.720
It doesn't mean that every player has to lose. We can all win, but there are going to be degrees of winning.

03:46:38.720 --> 03:46:44.800
Yeah. And so we all have to be cognizant of the constant tension and working to make sure that

03:46:44.800 --> 03:46:50.400
our tension is beneficial to the people around us, that we are together, this table.

03:46:53.680 --> 03:46:56.720
I think that the table is society. We have a venous society.

03:46:56.720 --> 03:47:02.080
Now I need to have this table. I should have this table. You can just order people to make it for you.

03:47:02.080 --> 03:47:05.520
Metaphor in the office. Yeah. There are people here that could make that.

03:47:05.520 --> 03:47:11.920
Oh yeah, sure. No, it's, it's not that hard. We were looking at guides a little while ago because James wanted to do it, to do a

03:47:11.920 --> 03:47:13.360
tensegrity computer.

03:47:15.440 --> 03:47:20.160
Yeah. Where do we put the computer though? Like it's not really, I mean, in the middle of that, I guess.

03:47:20.160 --> 03:47:23.200
That's basically just a computer case. Exposed.

03:47:23.200 --> 03:47:25.280
Atlanta streets. His employees like a table.

03:47:27.040 --> 03:47:27.760
And we tea.

03:47:30.320 --> 03:47:32.480
Anyway, they're kidding. Don't worry.

03:47:35.120 --> 03:47:38.560
What else we got? There's still many. Hi LDL.

03:47:38.560 --> 03:47:42.320
Love, love time viewer. First time merch messenger.

03:47:42.320 --> 03:47:46.800
Question for Luke. What is your opinion on using technical questions for software interviews?

03:47:46.800 --> 03:47:48.720
Is there a better way to scope out good candidates?

03:47:49.920 --> 03:47:53.120
I think I know the answer to this. Technical questions are good.

03:47:53.120 --> 03:47:55.360
I think sometimes people go way overboard with it.

03:47:58.000 --> 03:48:01.920
Like, I don't know, if, if you're just asking like effectively like

03:48:01.920 --> 03:48:05.840
lead code questions, I mean, they just studied for that. Like, does that really prove anything?

03:48:05.840 --> 03:48:11.440
I don't know. I like having people actually just try to write something.

03:48:12.080 --> 03:48:15.280
Like the, we have a, the, the full plane test.

03:48:15.280 --> 03:48:18.720
I try not to go into way too many details, but the full plane test is

03:48:18.720 --> 03:48:25.120
generally referred to as the bad app test. And we, we give people a bad app and we ask them to

03:48:26.000 --> 03:48:30.880
comment it and identify why it's bad and then rewrite it.

03:48:30.880 --> 03:48:43.840
It's short to small. Um, and since the advent of not AI assisting, but just fully AI written code,

03:48:43.840 --> 03:48:47.200
we've had to like, okay, we'll slap this through a few models and see what it

03:48:47.200 --> 03:48:51.360
outputs just to see if people are, are just completely copy and pasting.

03:48:51.360 --> 03:48:53.760
Yeah. AI written code. Cause we don't want those results.

03:48:54.800 --> 03:48:58.160
But that has actually become a somewhat fun benchmark.

03:48:58.160 --> 03:49:02.000
Cause if you can't beat that, then why do we bother with you?

03:49:02.000 --> 03:49:08.880
Kind of. And to be honest, you should be able to receive that and then, you know,

03:49:08.880 --> 03:49:12.560
probably improve it a little bit here or there or make it your own in some way.

03:49:12.560 --> 03:49:15.040
But if you're literally just taking the output and slapping it in,

03:49:17.440 --> 03:49:19.680
it's, it's not, it's not great.

03:49:20.640 --> 03:49:23.520
We also do those offline.

03:49:24.800 --> 03:49:29.280
Okay. By offline, I mean like not during the video call and as much as that,

03:49:29.520 --> 03:49:33.600
sweet cause it doesn't take up as much as my time, the actual core reason for it was,

03:49:33.600 --> 03:49:38.640
I tried to do one live because I heard that was like what people did.

03:49:38.640 --> 03:49:42.000
And then immediately within that call was like, nevermind.

03:49:43.280 --> 03:49:46.400
Just take this and we'll have another call later.

03:49:46.400 --> 03:49:55.360
Send it to me when you're done. Because I suspect this is always a thing, but that environment is not similar

03:49:55.360 --> 03:50:02.000
to how you're going to be working at all. And I suspect the level of nerves when you're applying at any company is high,

03:50:02.000 --> 03:50:05.680
let alone when it's very likely I'm sitting on the call with you and it's possible you've

03:50:05.680 --> 03:50:08.240
watched me on camera in the past. Confirmed Luke.

03:50:09.440 --> 03:50:13.680
For sure. I'm the best of the best interviewer because I'm there in the interview.

03:50:13.680 --> 03:50:19.120
No one is good. They're probably nervous because I'm that cool. They, they've now met their hero.

03:50:19.120 --> 03:50:24.000
Yeah. So everything's downhill from this moment and they're realizing that in real time.

03:50:24.000 --> 03:50:26.720
And that's a really hard environment to be coding in. It's really hard.

03:50:27.120 --> 03:50:30.160
It's long and it's hard. It's probably the most difficult thing they've ever done and will do.

03:50:30.160 --> 03:50:31.280
The hardest. Yeah.

03:50:33.840 --> 03:50:39.040
Anyways, no. So yeah, I just let people take it and do it on their own.

03:50:39.040 --> 03:50:39.280
Which?

03:50:43.920 --> 03:50:48.560
I'm not even going to ding that. It was not on purpose. Which I wish it was.

03:50:48.560 --> 03:50:50.400
Luke and no Luke left in year.

03:50:57.120 --> 03:50:58.960
At least make them some chicken first.

03:51:03.840 --> 03:51:06.640
No, they just need the story of it. They don't need more than that.

03:51:09.040 --> 03:51:12.320
No. Yeah. So I don't know. That's what we do. Oh God. Let's move on.

03:51:12.320 --> 03:51:14.240
So do these interviews take place on a couch?

03:51:19.040 --> 03:51:21.360
By your disinfectant at Costco.

03:51:23.360 --> 03:51:26.800
Okay. I forgot the mineral oil by the barrel. Yeah, yeah.

03:51:27.840 --> 03:51:30.880
Works. Hi, DLL. Just don't ingest it.

03:51:32.400 --> 03:51:35.440
Speaking from experience, good advice. It's horse laxative.

03:51:36.800 --> 03:51:38.160
It's also human laxative.

03:51:42.080 --> 03:51:46.400
So yeah, be careful with that. Well, I'm not. I know what I'm doing at the next company retreat.

03:51:49.360 --> 03:51:54.720
Hi, DLL. What cable sheathing would be used for the upcoming LTT Store cables?

03:51:54.720 --> 03:51:58.160
Have bad experience with braided cables shrinking, causing kinks.

03:52:02.240 --> 03:52:03.920
Hold on. I think he's fetching.

03:52:07.040 --> 03:52:07.440
Thank you.

03:52:12.000 --> 03:52:13.920
Early leaning into the after dark thing.

03:52:21.520 --> 03:52:24.080
Nice sack. It's big.

03:52:25.680 --> 03:52:28.240
Very sizable. And black.

03:52:30.480 --> 03:52:33.520
With orange on the inside. That's a little. What am I doing?

03:52:33.520 --> 03:52:40.560
Like Luke's interview couch. So they will not have braided sleeving on them.

03:52:40.560 --> 03:52:50.160
They are just the like the supple silicone style of like outer, not rubber, but like silicone.

03:52:51.200 --> 03:52:53.280
Lots of silicone. Don't stop.

03:52:54.240 --> 03:52:54.800
Pointy.

03:52:58.000 --> 03:52:59.840
There's got to be a way to turn this into my football.

03:53:02.640 --> 03:53:04.160
Well, that's kind of flaccid in there.

03:53:07.360 --> 03:53:14.320
That was tough. Anyway, the point is that they're like this.

03:53:14.960 --> 03:53:20.480
They're kind of using like similar to like a hobbyist grade like wire stock.

03:53:21.440 --> 03:53:24.880
Because I've found that in terms of durability, that's the best thing.

03:53:24.880 --> 03:53:30.560
I've also had really bad experiences with sleeving, just not lasting over the long term.

03:53:32.000 --> 03:53:36.000
Hi, DLL. Why doesn't Samsung make desktop CPUs or GPUs?

03:53:36.000 --> 03:53:41.200
Since they already make mobile chips, Apple has had great success with their M series chips they've brought out.

03:53:41.200 --> 03:53:45.840
Well, there's your answer. Apple has had great success with their mobile chips.

03:53:46.640 --> 03:53:50.160
Has Samsung? They certainly put them in their bones.

03:53:50.160 --> 03:53:56.480
Does anybody else want to use them? Or would they rather have something designed by Qualcomm?

03:54:00.000 --> 03:54:06.160
Like to be clear, they're not terrible. In fact, you can, I mean, with, oh bloody hell, what's it called?

03:54:06.160 --> 03:54:11.120
Samsung's DeX. With DeX, you can use a Samsung processor as a desktop.

03:54:11.120 --> 03:54:15.840
In fact, oh shoot, who's, uh, was it, was it?

03:54:16.160 --> 03:54:24.320
Who's video, who's extreme tech upgrade video was it? That they were using DeX as their like daily driver home computer until we did the tech upgrade?

03:54:24.320 --> 03:54:26.560
I don't remember, but yeah, like people do it.

03:54:32.560 --> 03:54:37.280
Yeah, why don't they? I don't know, why, why doesn't anybody do anything?

03:54:37.280 --> 03:54:41.200
There's an opportunity cost, I guess they've just decided that's not the most useful thing.

03:54:41.200 --> 03:54:44.240
They'd rather make a smart fridge or whatever.

03:54:44.240 --> 03:54:45.200
Good luck, Samsung.

03:54:48.080 --> 03:54:51.600
People are saying Matt Laverne. Ah, yeah, yeah, that sounds right.

03:54:54.160 --> 03:54:58.960
Why is it so rare for newer monitors to include more than one DisplayPort input?

03:54:58.960 --> 03:55:04.480
I have a variety of devices to connect and use at the same time, so a KVM doesn't help.

03:55:06.960 --> 03:55:11.120
So what do you want to do? You want to have like, you want it side by side?

03:55:11.280 --> 03:55:14.800
You want to have like, you want it side by side? Is that right?

03:55:15.920 --> 03:55:24.640
So, okay, uh, one, I actually share your, your, um, perplexity because every HDMI port to my

03:55:24.640 --> 03:55:31.360
understanding costs a royalty fee, whereas DisplayPort is, has no royalty per port.

03:55:31.360 --> 03:55:35.760
So it is a little weird to me that we don't just all use DisplayPort because like that would be

03:55:35.760 --> 03:55:40.480
cheaper and when you look across the electronics industry, basically every decision seems to be

03:55:40.480 --> 03:55:41.840
driven by how we can make it cheaper.

03:55:43.520 --> 03:55:49.600
I don't know. It's a good question, but you are right. Very, very few monitors include more than one DP input.

03:55:50.640 --> 03:55:56.480
However, if I had to guess, I would say that the reason you don't see PIP or picture by

03:55:56.480 --> 03:56:02.960
picture support for a DisplayPort is that DisplayPort can very easily be converted to

03:56:02.960 --> 03:56:10.240
anything else. So if you have a DP output from some device, then you can easily turn it into HDMI or VGA or

03:56:10.240 --> 03:56:15.040
DVI or whatever, mini DisplayPort, whatever you need to do, you can turn DisplayPort into

03:56:15.040 --> 03:56:19.600
anything, but turning some of those other things into DisplayPort is not always as

03:56:19.600 --> 03:56:26.320
cost effective or convenient. So I don't really see it as a problem because if you have a DP in an HDMI and then you, and

03:56:26.320 --> 03:56:31.440
two DP devices, then you can just convert one of the DP's to HDMI and boom, you're good to go,

03:56:31.440 --> 03:56:37.680
especially now that DP and HDMI are, have basically reached parity, uh, or close to

03:56:37.760 --> 03:56:41.040
parity, they kind of leapfrog each other now in terms of the bandwidth that they can support.

03:56:41.040 --> 03:56:46.400
It used to be that DP was like typically a generation ahead of HDMI, but now I think HDMI

03:56:46.400 --> 03:56:50.720
is actually ahead of DP, but then we got DP 2.1a and that can do up to 80 gigabit,

03:56:50.720 --> 03:56:56.720
but now it's the new HDMI is coming. So, um, I guess what I'm saying is I don't think this matters.

03:56:57.280 --> 03:57:02.640
And if what you want is for those devices to plug into the monitor and to switch between them,

03:57:03.520 --> 03:57:09.440
um, although it sounds like you are aware of KVMs, but are you aware of really good KVMs?

03:57:10.000 --> 03:57:22.240
Like this one from the level one tech store. Let's go. Which can do 120 Hertz 4k and USB three and multi monitors, which is like super cool.

03:57:22.240 --> 03:57:26.480
These things are amazing. Um, yeah. They have a lot of different configurations too.

03:57:26.480 --> 03:57:31.680
Wendell, Wendell store is funny because he's got like merch crap that like is just merch crap.

03:57:31.680 --> 03:57:36.080
And then he's got like actually like we built an incredible fricking product.

03:57:36.080 --> 03:57:41.120
We did the best one. Yeah. We like, we thought KVMs were bad.

03:57:41.120 --> 03:57:46.800
So we were like, I'll build my own KVM with blackjack and hookers.

03:57:46.800 --> 03:57:51.680
This one does four computers in a single month. I'm trying to find the like the big chunker.

03:57:51.680 --> 03:57:58.320
Super Mondo one. Yeah. I think it's triple monitors, two computers.

03:57:58.320 --> 03:58:02.480
Here's this guy. There's some, there's some, there's one wild one.

03:58:02.480 --> 03:58:08.800
There's got to be a way you can filter by just the KVMs. Yeah. You'd think that, but maybe it was a custom one that he sent over to Jake or something.

03:58:08.800 --> 03:58:11.040
I don't remember. Products. Come on.

03:58:12.080 --> 03:58:15.280
Okay. Hardware? Really hardware? Okay.

03:58:16.480 --> 03:58:21.040
Fine. There was one like super thick boy that I've seen.

03:58:21.040 --> 03:58:25.200
Maybe it was never a real product. Oh, here's a good one. Two computers quad monitor.

03:58:25.200 --> 03:58:27.920
Check this out. Oh, I think that's what I was thinking of.

03:58:28.560 --> 03:58:31.920
I think that's the biggest one. Quad monitor four computer. That's the one.

03:58:31.920 --> 03:58:35.120
Nevermind. Yep. This is the one. That's crazy.

03:58:38.560 --> 03:58:42.720
The fact that this exists is just so sick. I'm so happy someone makes that.

03:58:43.360 --> 03:58:48.000
I mean, it's not cheap. And it's also sold out. But it technically exists.

03:58:48.000 --> 03:58:50.640
I think we might have one. Anyway.

03:58:53.360 --> 03:58:55.600
Wow. How rude. I just have

03:58:57.920 --> 03:59:00.480
many contacts. He's just popular.

03:59:01.600 --> 03:59:04.720
He's just popular. Hi, LLD.

03:59:04.720 --> 03:59:07.920
Linus, how is the built in GPU CPU of the Mac?

03:59:09.120 --> 03:59:13.200
Have you run any LLMs or games on it? And have you used the new Siri on it?

03:59:15.200 --> 03:59:18.480
I have not used any of that yet. I've been trying to figure out how to have

03:59:18.480 --> 03:59:24.080
my monitor scale properly. So I'm just pretty far away from doing anything

03:59:24.080 --> 03:59:27.520
performance reliant on it. I went out to LL.

03:59:27.520 --> 03:59:32.080
I tentatively bought the tax write-off shirt after not being able to handle sensory feel

03:59:32.080 --> 03:59:36.720
of the original American apparel shirts. And it was great. Are all the current shirts the new one?

03:59:38.560 --> 03:59:42.560
No. I believe some of the mysteries in this latest batch

03:59:42.560 --> 03:59:45.760
are some American apparel stuff that we found. Also the the...

03:59:45.760 --> 03:59:49.280
But I think this is the last thing. The white, the pure white shirt is different as well,

03:59:49.280 --> 03:59:54.000
isn't it? It's different, but it's not American apparel. It is one of ours, but the composition is different.

03:59:55.200 --> 03:59:58.000
It is quite different. This is the heads up.

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The reason for that is that making a white shirt

04:00:07.200 --> 04:00:09.600
that is as sheer as our dark shirts...

04:00:12.560 --> 04:00:15.040
Right. Problematic. Right.

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Problematic. Right. Dude, the archive... You know why he pokies, dude?

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Dude, the archive of like products that I've tried on.

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One of these days, we should just release it as a Floatplane exclusive download or something,

04:00:26.960 --> 04:00:30.720
because there is some hilarious stuff that they've had me try on over the years.

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Like there was this one time Bridget had me try on like a ladies like white tank top, essentially.

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And I was like, I don't remember why. There was a reason for it, but it was ridiculous.

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Any scope creep stories. My company got tired of whining about me not being quick enough

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to work on another shop's gear. Now I'm training someone to configure CNC mills

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to pull from a networked FTP server.

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Literally everything. This whole company.

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I think that's the company culture. Yeah. Of just like, oh, more workings for things.

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There's one. Like dude...

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The fact that we did that at all is scope creep. Like that was so incredibly...

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Linus, you do motherboard unboxings. We had no business.

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Now you're holding a screwdriver. Making a screwdriver.

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That's stored in a tech stack along with... Oh dude.

04:01:27.520 --> 04:01:34.320
All those other things. Partnered with Noctua, yeah. The detaching like top on the magnetic parts tray

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on the precision screwdriver set. Like that.

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Like why? Mario in full plane chat said one million sales

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is scope creep. Like honestly, yeah.

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Let's go. Well, that's the that's a hundred cable. Well, yeah, the million one's still boxed.

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Oh, okay, I see.

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You gotta make the point. I'm working on it.

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You gotta seal it. I'm working here.

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Go get there.

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It's decently heavy, hey? Oh, yeah. She's heavy, boys.

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There you go. There's some scope creep right there. A million orders.

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Have you held it? No. Oh, yeah. Well, that is like you would expect it to weigh less.

04:02:20.880 --> 04:02:23.200
Yeah. It's nice. It's pretty nice.

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Question for Luke. I recently got a pair of budgies.

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What? That's not a question. I knew it was coming too.

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I never expected it. I really should by now. I don't expect it every time.

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What qualities would you look for in a good bird vet? And what are some red flags for bad one?

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Concerned that I might have bumblefoot. Any tips?

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Always bumblefoot. I don't know.

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Oh, Luke's about to Google it. Let's go chat GPT vet.

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Oh, wow. Bacterial infection of the foot that can affect birds,

04:03:03.920 --> 04:03:06.560
rodents, and rabbits. We've never had this. I've never ran into that before.

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Man, I don't know.

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The thing that we did was we went to the only actual avian

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specialist in, as far as I know, the province.

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So unless we drove through the mountains for hours,

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there was really no other option.

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Well, technically there is, because there was like exotic

04:03:30.880 --> 04:03:35.920
pet vets, but they wouldn't specialize in birds or avians.

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They would be into basically not cats and dogs,

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although I'm pretty sure they generally take those too. But they would have experience with other ones.

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So we found the only one that really specialized in birds.

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And birds are weird. So I think it's pretty good to find a vet that can specialize

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in birds. That was honestly all we did.

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I mean, outside of that, it's just general stuff for the

04:04:07.520 --> 04:04:11.680
same types of things that you might probe questions for to try to find a good mechanic.

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It's, if there's something that you are absolutely assured in

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your knowledge of, talk to them about it and see, do they try

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to upcharge you on something when they shouldn't, stuff like

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that, I would also think that it would be pretty wise to try to find a vet that you can board your birds at.

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So that if you want to go on vacation or have to leave town

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for a certain period of time because of some form of emergency, there is somewhere that you can leave your

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birds that can actually take care of them properly. Leaving them with a friend is free, which is awesome because

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leaving them with the vet, it can be very expensive.

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But you're kind of, especially with budgies, they're so fragile, they're so prone to death in incredibly easy ways

04:05:01.200 --> 04:05:05.200
that really can't be controlled. That while you're kind of putting a lot on the person

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that you're leaving them with, like, I don't know.

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I've never had an issue with dog sitting, for example. But leaving our birds with somebody just sounds like

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I'm kind of setting them up for failure. Like it's not the birds, which might be true.

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It's more the person, like you're putting a lot on them. Like the chance that you come home to dead birds and then

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they feel horrible for the rest of ever is really high. And that's just a lot to put on someone.

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Hi, my boyfriend has been a longtime fan of LTT and ever

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since he told me that Linus is a Swifty, I've been listening

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to the WAN Show with him. I want to know what Linus' favorite Taylor album is.

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Ooh, man. People are going to hate this, but I don't really listen to albums.

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I mean, I think that's pretty normal these days. I don't know how many Taylor Swift albums I could name.

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Hold on. Hold on. Red. Taylor Swift.

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I believe she has just an eponymous, eponymous, eponymous?

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I think it's eponymous. No idea.

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Not going to look at chat. Dan, how many albums does she have?

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Can you find that out for me? Like how close am I? Do I have like, you know, a solid 40% of the albums?

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You keep responding to things. Oh, they're lighter now.

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Eleven studio albums, five EPs, four live albums, four re-records.

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Um, she's not quite as prolific as King Gizzard in the Lizard Wizard, but she's up there.

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Okay. See that five times. Oh, man. She's not quite as prolific as the King Gizzard in the Lizard Wizard, but she's up there.

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Add an extra thigh in there, but good. It was a solid attempt. Damn it.

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Uh, okay, I give up. The Giz. Oh, crap.

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I missed 1989 and midnight.

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Uh, I would have missed all of them if it helps.

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Oh my God, reputation. I've never even heard of that.

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Um, you don't have one anymore. Eponymous.

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Okay. Speak now. What the hell is speak now?

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Uh, back to December.

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No, no, it's a whole album. Oh, it's a re-record. Is it? Oh, what?

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Speak now was from. Third studio album.

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2010. Wrote the album entirely herself while touring in 2009 and 2010 to reflect her

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transition from adolescence to adulthood. I think Enchanted is good.

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I think. But I don't know, man.

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I, uh, yeah, I don't think I, uh, I don't think I have a favorite album.

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Hmm. Every single one has been number one in the U.S., but Taylor Swift.

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Really? Which was her first album. That's bonkers.

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That's kind of wild. Okay. What was on Taylor Swift?

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Our song. I liked our song. That's good.

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Teardrops on my guitar was huge.

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Man, was that song ever huge?

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And your twinsies. Yep.

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Okay. Five twins. Do you still have thick thighs?

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I think so. I mean, even though I couldn't play badminton, I'd been like on the Stairmaster.

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Oh, right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You just, you mentioned you lost weight. Hitting that Stairmaster.

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I'm back up. Just wasn't eating enough.

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Hello, the talent. How it goes. Projoratively.

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Hey. And the talent. Luke, how do you find motivation to do management?

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As a dev, it looks unrewarding. Thanks to your Resolute Commitment to Transparency and Integrity.

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The reward is, um, what is it again?

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Drinking alone and crying.

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I think it's breadth of impact.

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Your, yeah, yeah, that's good.

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It's like teaching. Like you can do so much more by like building a team

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than you can by just doing things yourself. Being helpful and supporting.

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Yeah, if you're going to build a team, you're going to need to manage. Yeah. So like it is what it is.

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Yeah. I don't love that part. Yeah. But I love, like, dude.

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Well, there's parts to love about that part though.

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Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. I think they're like, okay.

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Living vicariously through the personal growth of others

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is like actually super rewarding. That is super cool. We're not living vicariously because that is a negative connotation.

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But like, like- I'm not trying to dissuade people from becoming managers either.

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I just, I think there's, there's a, there's a lot of

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thankless aspects to it. And there's a lot of really junk aspects to it.

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And you end up being,

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uh, I don't know. I don't want to get way too into it.

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But there are absolutely positives. You end up being,

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oh man. How do I say this in a way that I'm not going to piss off some various groups of people?

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The reward is you get a ton of flak. Yeah. I mean, that's part of it.

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What is this? Linus's career as Taylor Swift eras.

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That's amazing. Wait, what? This was from four months ago

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and literally doesn't have a single upvote.

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That's sad because that's an amazing post. This is hilarious.

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Why did, why did dark rainbow? Oh, you know what? I bet dark, I bet dark rainbow is like DR win or whatever.

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This is hilarious. Who knows? But that's, that is a, that is a golden post.

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Sorry. Yeah, carry on. But yeah, you end up dealing with a lot of people's

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personal issues inside and outside of work.

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And that can be really heavy. The lines between work and not work are very blurry.

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Yeah. And that can be really heavy when you're doing that

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for a wide variety of people at the same time. So you're like receiving all of this stuff

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and it is usually negative because life is hard.

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And life is hard for everybody. So it's just, I don't know. And that's, you don't want to not do that

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because you like care about these people. But when you go home at the end of the day, sometimes it's like.

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And if you don't care or you can't care, you're not cut out for it.

04:12:00.720 --> 04:12:05.680
Yeah. Because the only thing that can motivate you to work with the team is if you actually care.

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For sure. Otherwise you'll be a terrible manager and you just shouldn't.

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And sometimes it's honestly, I mean, we're coming back to that rewarding thing, right?

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Sometimes you can help people get through it. And there's only so much you can do about that

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being their like manager at work. But sometimes you can help, you know,

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get people's mind off things or shift people.

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So they're doing a different type of work or something that can like help them in some way.

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Like you're not necessarily going to be the solution, but you might be able to be at least part of it,

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which can be really cool and deeply rewarding.

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But also sometimes it's just really heavy.

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And sometimes there's no real way that you can help

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other than just being in here. Which can suck.

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Yeah.

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But again, is one of those things where like, I wouldn't want people to not do that.

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Like if you're on my team, I want to help you. So it's just, I don't know.

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There's just, there's a lot of downsides that I don't think get a lot of light,

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but it is where it is. It's fine. More for Luke.

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Hi, Luke. I'm an engineer at Cloudflare. What's a product or feature you wish we offer, but don't?

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Go with something really selfish. Discount prices for tech YouTubers.

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That'd be great. They don't main registrar yet. That'd be great. Do they do .ca?

04:13:28.480 --> 04:13:31.680
Yeah, they're domainers or they haven't for a long time. Oh, okay. Ah, yeah.

04:13:31.680 --> 04:13:35.440
Support .ca domains. Okay. Well, that's what I was asking. Genuinely like, don't get.

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Because I know we don't use them. Why you don't, yeah, we do. We do? Yeah.

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Oh, but not for our .ca's. Yeah. Okay. So we can't switch everything over to them.

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Which is like silly and. How about that? Weird.

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How about your domain registrar business like has more domains

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and then we could have all our domains through you. That would be sick.

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Please do that. Hey, can you think of anything else? The tech side of Cloudflare I'm like pretty happy with

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and always have been, which is why I've been using them for so long.

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Something that is like actually a big problem at Cloudflare

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that you probably can't fix because you're an engineer and your side is probably working pretty well

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is that your support is not awesome

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and hasn't been for a long time. And like there's a system that a bunch of companies have

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where you have like the team that's assigned to you, right? And the reason why you get direct emails to a team

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that's assigned to you is because you're supposed to like have those people for a long time.

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But then you're either a quickly growing or quickly declining tech company

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because that seems to be the only status that tech companies are ever in.

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So that team is extremely ephemeral. You'll have it for like six months.

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And then every six months you get an email from somebody you've never heard of before

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saying, oh, hey, we'd love to have an onboarding call

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because you have a new team. Can you please explain what your entire company does

04:14:52.400 --> 04:14:56.160
because we have no idea because apparently we store zero documentation on anything.

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And it's incredibly annoying and honestly just a huge waste of time. Wow, tell us how you really feel, Luke.

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It's very frustrating. And then you had support tickets in

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with the previous team that they were dragging absolute butt on

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for weeks, if not months. And then those just get disappeared

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when the new support team shows up. We literally had an issue with Cloudflare

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that we were trying to resolve for over a year.

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And the last round of trying to resolve it,

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one of the people were like, yeah, never heard of this before, never seen anything on it.

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I'm like, Cool.

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Sick. All right, let's not go too hard at them there.

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The tech is great though. Okay, cool. We have no intention of stopping to use Cloudflare.

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The support team that we have right now does seem pretty okay.

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These are mostly problems of the past.

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It's good. We like your stuff. Keep going. Hi, DLL, quick question to Linus.

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What flower Lego sets are you recommending?

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Like right now? Flower Lego sets, hold on.

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Tax write-off sale, shop all deals. Free shipping on orders over $175.

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Whoa, look at that. There's a free shaft extension with every stubby screwdriver.

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Oh, $10 off the scribe driver

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for the tax write-off sale. That's appropriate. Oh, did you know we've burned through

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like 60,000 shafts already out of our 100,000 shafts?

04:16:26.640 --> 04:16:30.080
That's a lot. It's like me in college. We have sold- Serious question.

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A few scribe drivers. Once you burn through all of them.

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What do you do?

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Offsite laptop bag, $39.99. This is crazy.

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This is a really nice bag, really high quality bag,

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full of lots of great pockets for organizing your gear.

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You cannot fit a submarine inside, but you can fit many things inside.

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Enjoy it. That's a good question.

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I think that there is still some,

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I think the story is still fun, you know, that we developed the product to-

04:17:07.920 --> 04:17:11.920
Oh, no, I think that's fine. But like, do you come up with a die

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or whatever you're going to need to make those specifically

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instead of, because I'm assuming the way that you make them now is just gone the second you're out of those shafts.

04:17:19.920 --> 04:17:22.320
Yeah, yeah. We're out of shafts once we're out of shafts.

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And don't you use like two for every pen or something? No.

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It turns out that, I might have said that at some point, I was wrong about that.

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We use a shaft for the knurling and the top housing is brand new.

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Fresh. Yeah. I think that we actually had this conversation

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in merch meeting this week. They showed me a replicated crappy knurling job

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because they were like, okay, they did the worst they could.

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Is this worst enough? Would we want it to be good

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or would we want it to be like the bad one? And I basically went, okay, well,

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if we continued to manufacture fail pens,

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that was the original code name of the project, fail pen,

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if we were to manufacture fail pens, we would want them to be as close

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to the original as possible. And I don't think I would want to,

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I don't think I would want to differentiate for people whether it's a fail pen

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or a not fail pen. Unless it's just a version two and you call it like the right off or something.

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Yeah, I don't know. That was a name that I saw from somebody

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in Philippine chat like months ago, by the way, that I didn't come to that.

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I think what we would probably do, assuming we are successful enough

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with the product to continue moving through the remaining tens of thousands of shafts,

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because when I say there's that many shafts left, that's like virgin shafts.

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We have manufactured pens as well that also have shafts stop,

04:18:51.520 --> 04:18:56.000
that also have shafts in them. So it's going to be a while before we burn through

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all of our like faulty shafts

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for the original screwdriver production run.

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What to do, what to do? I don't know. Combining the flower set for someone,

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just figure out what their favorite flower is and try to find a set that has that. They have a bunch of sets that we've figured out.

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What do you think is the right thing to do? Should we just make fail pens?

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I think so. Is it still an interesting enough product development story,

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even if you're not actually buying a piece of that? I think it's more interesting to say

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this was so successful that we ran out of the failed material.

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And now we just make it for real. I think that's entirely legit.

04:19:34.800 --> 04:19:37.840
That's what the team wants to do. I think that's entirely legit.

04:19:37.840 --> 04:19:41.440
Okay, I'll think about it some more. It's a cool product.

04:19:41.440 --> 04:19:42.880
You don't have to just not make it.

04:19:44.720 --> 04:19:47.120
It's pretty cool to turn that lemon into a...

04:19:48.400 --> 04:19:52.000
Man, because like let's say an average cell price of,

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I don't know, because we've promoted a couple times. So let's say an average cell price of like 25 bucks

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across its lifetime. If we actually sell through all of them.

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That's a ton. That's like a way.

04:20:08.320 --> 04:20:10.800
Ah. How many shafts was there? 100,000.

04:20:13.520 --> 04:20:17.440
To be clear, we did pay for those shafts and we did pay to...

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And you got to ship them around and you got to re-tool them.

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That ain't all profit. You have to buy the ink cartridge and put it in a package

04:20:24.800 --> 04:20:27.920
and all that jazz. Pay people to do all that stuff.

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But I genuinely deeply think there is no reason to stop making them.

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I don't remember what the loss was. I think it was a $100,000 error.

04:20:38.160 --> 04:20:41.920
Man, that is a... That's pretty dealt with. That is some good lemonade.

04:20:45.120 --> 04:20:49.760
Extremely tasty lemonade. Dude, we're good sometimes. We're like really good at stuff sometimes.

04:20:50.080 --> 04:20:53.200
Yeah. Aviation AJ says, what about the pencil version?

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That's still coming. I'm more leaning to this point that it would be lame

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if that was the reason why you stopped.

04:21:03.520 --> 04:21:06.640
Okay. I think if you were like, you know what, this product has run its course.

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We're not selling like a ton of them anymore, whatever, whatever.

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Okay, we're going to stop making them when we run out of... That's completely fine.

04:21:14.320 --> 04:21:18.240
That's its own reason. But if you're like, oh no, the product story was whatever.

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So we have to stop now. Like that's lame. I think that's lame.

04:21:24.640 --> 04:21:28.800
I think it would be kind of cool if we gave people a chance

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to like get one of those. Like if we kind of warned people

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when we were down to the last couple of thousand. Absolutely. Yeah, why not? Sure.

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But then after that, yeah, we just... Yeah, we make a success pen.

04:21:39.040 --> 04:21:42.720
Yeah, you... Yeah, sure. Stole that from Negaev in the Floatplane chat.

04:21:42.720 --> 04:21:49.440
That's pretty good. I work for large error lines

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and I'm currently in the process of developing a new operation center.

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What challenges is LTT faced in internal communications,

04:21:56.160 --> 04:21:58.720
i.e. email teams, that one random group chat?

04:21:59.360 --> 04:22:02.400
Hots, but I don't know if you guys are ready to talk about our new deployment yet.

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Oh, it's kind of up to Dan, I think. There'll be a Floatplane exclusive coming

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where I kind of gush about the last month of my progress on it.

04:22:11.840 --> 04:22:15.440
Sweet. And I believe the Dan Daly's series will be continuing.

04:22:16.240 --> 04:22:21.760
So we'll be able to follow the internal processes as we develop them forever.

04:22:22.320 --> 04:22:27.680
Nice. Until you get sick of it. Basically, we're working on a new tool

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that is going to help to sync information across all of the

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various tools that we use so that finding that single source of truth

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becomes a little less difficult. One of the ways that, I guess we're talking about a little bit now,

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I won't dive too much into it though. One of the ways that I've really liked that Dan has been bouncing off me

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for this thing for a long time is that he wants to reduce the thinking.

04:22:50.560 --> 04:22:53.920
I hate thinking. Less thinking. I've said it many times

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in executive meetings and Terran lunches, but I hate working and I'm really lazy

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and I wish more people at the company hated working and were really lazy.

04:23:03.680 --> 04:23:08.080
We really kind of go into busy work that isn't fun or productive

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or creatively stimulating. And the less work we do

04:23:11.680 --> 04:23:15.520
from doing that kind of garbage, the more room we have to be creative

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and think and be happy. So if you have to think like,

04:23:18.960 --> 04:23:23.360
how am I supposed to do this thing? Or it comes down to where do I find that information?

04:23:23.360 --> 04:23:27.200
Where do I find that information? Not even that. What is the process for this? What am I supposed to do today?

04:23:27.200 --> 04:23:30.560
What task do I start with? I have 50 tasks.

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Which one do I do? What are my priorities? You get a list where your priority is at the top

04:23:35.280 --> 04:23:36.880
and then you just do that one.

04:23:38.480 --> 04:23:42.980
Yep. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess we'll talk more about it some other time,

04:23:42.980 --> 04:23:45.780
but it's exciting. It's been a lot of work.

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It's going to be a lot more work, but it's exciting.

04:23:51.460 --> 04:23:54.820
I've been really enjoying it. This just seems like a good time to talk about Flowplain.

04:23:54.820 --> 04:23:57.220
Flowplain's cool. Yeah. This was really funny.

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They quote unquote promoted Colton.

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It's epic. He got back from a vacation and they promoted him to receptionist.

04:24:07.780 --> 04:24:11.060
Um, you should watch it. I will.

04:24:11.780 --> 04:24:15.860
Oh no, there was a Flowplain call-up that I think we were supposed to do. Oh, really?

04:24:15.860 --> 04:24:19.460
I always forget. I got swamped and foregored.

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As far as I know, this is actually Dan's fault now. It has always been my fault.

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Where is it? I see it. Should just be above the sponsors. Flowplain this week got two really good videos this week.

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Oh, that's hilarious. So I accidentally did the thing.

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And reminded me of the thing that I forgot to do. I'm supposed to play a timestamp from it.

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Oh, you literally like almost exactly did the talking place.

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That's amazing. Man, I'm good.

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Okay. Here, are we ready? Dan, you ready?

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I think so. That's Linus laptop.

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It is that button. Yep.

04:24:55.620 --> 04:24:59.300
Welcome to Linus Media Group. Have a Linus Day. That's what I'm leaving.

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I'll see you. Bye. Bye.

04:25:04.180 --> 04:25:06.980
Like and subscribe. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like and subscribe.

04:25:08.500 --> 04:25:11.700
Subscribe to Flowplain. Buy some merch. Oh, there's Jamie.

04:25:11.700 --> 04:25:15.300
Oh, there he is. Jamie also asked. He was at the other building.

04:25:15.300 --> 04:25:19.380
He's like, you going over to, uh, you going over studio? And I was like, why?

04:25:22.180 --> 04:25:26.500
Nice. Sorry, what else are we supposed to say?

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Secondly, you might have seen this Reddit post.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. This says it wasn't only Elijah who was there.

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All employees of LMGFPM CW got an all expense paid trip to Disneyland.

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And Sammy, who wasn't supposed to be working.

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Did you put that in? No.

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Yeah, that I already did as well.

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Vlogged from his perspective and other employees volunteered their time to be in the video.

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Time stamp 2025. That's the face of dedication.

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Say my notes.

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Oh my God, you guys, you can't do that.

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You give all influencers a bad reputation. You do that stuff.

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Okay. Anyway, what else is in here? I ran into Luke multiple times and him looking around for who was yelling his name was funny,

04:26:28.100 --> 04:26:32.820
says Sammy. Did you know it was him? Well, eventually, cause I would find him.

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That's hilarious. I think. I don't know if I always did, but.

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Okay. If you see these videos and you like them, head over to LMGGG slash flow plane or for the lazy,

04:26:42.500 --> 04:26:47.300
a YouTube membership at our LTT member plus tier will get you access to all the same stuff,

04:26:47.300 --> 04:26:50.420
but at a worse price. So you should just use flow plane.

04:26:50.420 --> 04:26:53.620
Yeah. Cool. All right.

04:26:53.620 --> 04:26:56.740
Dan, what else we got? Couple more home stretch.

04:26:58.020 --> 04:27:02.500
Let's see. Spent all day troubleshooting six DCs that were failing to talk.

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Thanks to slight time differences causing caribbonos to SMP failures.

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What annoying thing caused you loads of grief recently?

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My MacBook.

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I've noticed in many, oh yeah, getting rid of that one too.

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Luke and Linus, how do you feel about IPT integrated project teams,

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product teams versus regular functional teams?

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My company just switched to IPTs and I am skeptical.

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What? What is an integrated product team? I'm not even heard of this.

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Dan, if you're curating something, you should probably know what it is.

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Isn't that your job? No. Oh.

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Multi-discinary group of people who are collectively responsible for delivering a

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defined product or process. How is that different from just like a team?

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What was the other one that they said? What was the other thing? Regular functional teams.

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Okay. I think if we don't know, I think it's okay to say we don't know.

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We have no description. I'm just like, what? We have no feelings.

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Okay. They're not all dev, they're a mix.

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But then someone else said it's single skill people. So those are contradictory.

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Okay. As an enterprise storage engineer, is there anything storage technology,

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anything in storage technology development you find exciting?

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I mean, anything distributed is always pretty cool to me. I love resiliency.

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Anything to do with tiering is always super cool to me. Anything like with automated storage tiers.

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Other than that, like, no, I think that's all I'm talking about.

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Storage tiers, other than that, like, no, I think that's all,

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that's all trends that are very much happening with or without my participation.

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But it's cool.

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High speed interconnects. Whoa.

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Unified memory is cool.

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I mean, we have it. Hello, DLL, how do you keep the senior staff motivated and focused on the job,

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especially when they don't agree with the business decisions at hand?

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You have to reach consensus. I mean, at the end of the day, that's always the goal.

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You have to get aligned. And if you can't get aligned, then it probably means that someone isn't being rational.

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And in those cases, what you have to do is you have to rationally agree to compromise.

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Okay, let's try this for a little bit. Let's give it a good, real effort.

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And if it doesn't work, then we all need to rationally be willing to reevaluate.

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You don't have to agree with everything that happens at your company.

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You have to support it. Yeah, you have to do your job.

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And your job isn't always to just agree with everything,

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but your job also isn't to like hard line refuse to do everything all the time.

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There might be situations where that makes sense.

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I'm sure this has happened to people that are in chat right now, where it is morally unacceptable to do a thing that your boss or company asked of you.

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But that's not usually the case. So I think there's this concept where everyone bickering over how to do something

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is almost always worse than trying to come to a relatively quick consensus on something

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and then trying it and actually doing the thing and then evaluating and going from there.

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So sometimes you just got to do stuff.

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And I mean, sometimes like even from a management perspective,

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sometimes when you know something is going to fail, you have to let the person fail because

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as much as you can tell them, it will fail. If they don't experience it, they don't get that learning.

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So it just has to happen anyways. So sometimes you can be like, well, this is going to be a waste of time

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because they're going to fail and it's not going to work. But it's not actually entirely a waste of time.

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It might be a waste of time in regards to your project completion time,

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but it's not a waste of time in regards to that person's professional development,

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which is still valuable, assuming they stay on the team.

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Big D, little owl, medium D. Huge fan of y'all was wondering if perhaps my favorite tech team

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could wish me and my fiance a happy engagement.

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Jerry and Brandy from Justin Texas. Happy engagement, Jeremy and Brandy from Justin Texas.

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Are you anywhere else or Justin Texas?

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He curated it to just make that joke. Did you really?

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I know that that's what he did now.

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Oh, you've ruined their engagement.

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Who curated this? Not me. Not me, Luke.

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So why is this just chaos creating at the end of the show?

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It's that kind of night. I'm not even.

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Do you want me to read it? I feel like you should just read the thing. I feel like you should read it, and then we should just end the show.

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Oh, God, oh, no. I fixed it. Okay, go ahead and read the thing.

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I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. Love your stuff.

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Very well made. What do you think of the current USA administration?

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We'll see you again next week. See you in bad times. See you in bad channel. Bye.

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I'm sorry.