1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,400 I love gaming in my theater room, but despite all the marketing from Sony, Xbox, AMD, NVIDIA, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:12,640 when it comes to high refresh rate and reasonable settings, 4K is still tough to run. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Part of my problem is that I skipped NVIDIA's 40 series, so in the lead up to the 5090 launch, 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,200 I said both Pluf and I went on the record. If all the rumors are true, we're buying one. 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,360 As someone with a monitor, I wanted even more performance than I'm getting from my 4090. 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,440 On the subject of monitors, MSI sponsored this video with their new MPG272URX, 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:39,120 a 27-inch 4K 240Hz gaming display, and the premise is simple. We're going to build 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:44,080 a top-of-the-line gaming PC, do a little ad hoc testing with the RTX 5090, 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:51,920 and when we're done, each of us has to cancel our pre-order or pull the trigger on a 2900 Canadian 10 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:59,280 gaming doohickey. Plus tax. But here's the thing. Why is this decision so complicated? I mean, 11 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:04,320 whether you think the price is justified or not, the 5090 is clearly at the top of the charts. 12 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,720 But the issue is that I don't play any of those games that we tested, do you? 13 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Not really. We choose our benchmarks to paint a well-rounded picture of performance, 14 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,640 not to try to cover every popular game. Well, today we changed that. Not only did the lab 15 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,200 get us benchmark numbers for all of the games in our suite, including many you didn't see in the 16 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,600 review, but we're going to throw in random titles that I want to play, that he wants to play, 17 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,120 and that you want to see us play. All at 4K. 18 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:47,440 Big moment. Plugging it in. Considering this graphics card cost $2,000, setting it to anything 19 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:54,000 other than high or very high just feels bad, man. But counterpoint, considering that this GPU costs 20 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:01,360 $2,000, getting low frame rates feels pretty bad, man. And so does lowering the resolution. 21 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:07,280 DLSS might have come a long way and Reflex 2 might fix some of our latency issues with Framegen, 22 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,600 but Reflex 2 ain't out yet, is it? Sure isn't. And it won't do anything about the 23 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:17,120 artifacting and general weirdness that we did still find noticeable in our 8K gaming video. 24 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,120 That's especially true in the monitor. You happen to own. I also own a monitor. 25 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:28,880 Is like 115 inches. So the way that I see it, DLSS is on the menu, but if I'm spending this 26 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:35,600 much on a GPU, I don't want to generate frames. I want to render frames as for an FPS target. 27 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:41,920 Okay, my theater display is 120 Hertz. Is that too much to ask? Not for $2,000, 28 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:46,880 especially when most modern mid-tier or high-tier TVs start at 120 Hertz refresh rate. 29 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:53,600 And some monitors can do more. Both our monitor and our GPU today support DisplayPort 2.1 30 00:02:53,600 --> 00:03:01,760 UHBR20. It runs it up to 80 gigabit per second, meaning 4K, 240 Hertz can be done now with no 31 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,800 display stream compression. I have not actually experienced this yet, so I can't wait. 32 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:15,920 That's a pretty monitor. Oh, she's sharp, dude. Let's start with a game that really benefits 33 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:21,280 from a high resolution display and that really punishes your system at higher detail levels 34 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:30,160 and higher view distances. Wow, that is smooth. I have never seen this game look this smooth. 35 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:38,000 Really? Oh, dude. Yeah, your 1% lows, they go as low as like 50 or 40, but depending on what 36 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:44,400 you're looking at, it's pretty reasonable. Oh, 100%. Look, it's a really well optimized game. 37 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Like, you can run it on Intel integrated graphics. That was one of their targets when they 38 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:54,160 developed it. Yeah. But that would be at low. And once you start pushing it up to higher details 39 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:00,640 and higher resolutions, it is an extremely punishing game because there is so much detail. 40 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,720 There's a ton going on. We're one game in and I'm already like... 41 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:11,520 You're making a much bigger upgrade than I am, because I could probably run Anno at home, 4K, 42 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:18,640 maybe not quite those settings and still get pretty good FPS. That's true. 4090 is strong. 43 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:25,360 It's a great card. Yeah, 3080 is also strong. But old. A little dated. What's next? Halo. 44 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:32,800 This is running amazingly. It really is. I have it absolutely cranked. 4K, ultra everything, 45 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:39,680 ray tracing on. For a competitive shooter, it's a great looking game in any configuration. 46 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:45,840 Maxed out. It's gorgeous. But how many of the games that you play are this demanding? Well, 47 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:50,480 okay, I got to be honest with you. Probably 90% of my gaming time right now is in an indie 48 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,480 hockey rogue light called tape to tape. Yeah, it's great. But it isn't demanding. 49 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:00,720 It's really not. But I do need to see how it runs. How many FPS we getting here? 472 FPS. 50 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,760 Let's go. You think you can win with 400 FPS? I think I could win with 400 FPS. Yeah. I think you 51 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:12,560 need a thousand. No. It's way too far. Oh, I got it. Nice. Dang it. Enough of my games, though. 52 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Want to take the driver's seat? Sure. I've got four games, three of which were actually 53 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,800 mentioned by our community as well. FF7 Rebirth, Stalker 2, and Path of Exile 2. I'm actively 54 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:28,160 playing all three of those. And then a fourth one came out today. Today. Kingdom come deliverance, 55 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,920 too. Wait, that's the one where the recommended system requirements for 4K30 is a 4080. That's 56 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:41,520 right. Let's start with Final Fantasy. Sure. At home, I'm typically getting in Gangaga village 57 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:49,040 or other towns about the 120 cap, and then it goes down to 1% of like 50, 60. You know, 58 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:57,040 it doesn't look that different. This actually looks about the same as what I'm getting on my 4090. 59 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:04,080 So I don't know if it's just bottlenecked by the FPS cap or what, but I got to say 60 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:12,480 this is actually another point in my 4090's favor, because this is what I'm playing right now, and this 61 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:20,080 is about the same. I was really hoping for those 1% lows to be a bit more stable. Yeah. That's one 62 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,920 out of four. And I got to say, I don't have any reason right now to upgrade. Go ahead and start 63 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,200 your next game. All right. Next up, Stalker 2, Heart of Chernobyl. This game came out a little 64 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:38,560 later last year, and it is hard to run. I get close to like 60 or 80 averages, 65 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:45,840 and my 1% are bad though, whereas... Right. So right now you're using DLSS to get it to run 66 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:52,160 at all, which I know you don't like today. Yeah. I prefer turning it off. And I'm getting numbers 67 00:06:52,160 --> 00:07:01,760 better than I normally get with DLSS on. Not much, but we're getting like 90, 85 average with... 68 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:07,200 Looks very playable. This is very playable. 1% are like... They do go down to 50 or so, 69 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,960 but they're usually around 60. I do wonder though, how much of that is the 9800x3D we have in here, 70 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,320 and how much of it's the GPU? Yeah, because a whole platform upgrade would be cheaper than 71 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,880 upgrading your GPU. And we were talking off-camera about how he just convinced one of his friends 72 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:28,560 to upgrade their monitor rather than buy a 5090, because there's other things you can do to make 73 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,720 your games run better, other than just buying a new GPU. Yeah, or at least look prettier. It's just 74 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:41,280 that he already has like sick everything else, so... I was really hoping for it to work a little 75 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,960 worse than this. You're like the one guy I can think of who looks at the new product he's planning 76 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:53,680 to buy and is like, oh, I really hope it sucks. Yeah, it's expensive. Okay, let's see how much DLSS 77 00:07:53,680 --> 00:08:01,680 helps. Triple digits with 1% just hit triple digit. Oh, they're usually like 80, 90. Okay, 78 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:08,240 all right. Well, it's markedly improved. Next up is Path of Exile 2. While we wait for that, 79 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,160 it's a good time to tell you about our new sport button-up shirt from lttstore.com. 80 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,040 It's stretchy, lightweight, and remarkably comfortable. 81 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:25,520 I normally get like 90 to 150 FPS average. I mean, that's a huge range. It's a huge range, 82 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,520 I know. I've actually been trying their new controller support. It's actually pretty good. 83 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,880 It's frustrating to me because it runs well, except when it doesn't. And sometimes I see major 84 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,240 dips below triple digits and maps, so it does get even worse than that. Okay, it's all over the place 85 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:46,320 just like it normally is, but I'm seeing instead of 90 to 150, we're seeing like 86 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:54,480 212 down to like 175. And it's doing exactly what I wanted. No, my triple digits. I'm still 87 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,160 still staying. Okay, we're still getting stutters every now and then, but that's kind of just the 88 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:05,040 game. Does it feel different? It doesn't feel that much different, but it's hard for me seeing 89 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,440 those numbers. Like I'm seeing 1% of like 112. Okay, don't look at the numbers. Don't look at the 90 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:15,520 numbers. How does it feel? It feels good, but it felt good before. Do I want it to feel 91 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:22,240 gooder? Do I want to pay that much money to make it feel gooder? Oh man, I'm gonna put this one 92 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:31,600 as another win for the 5090. Okay. All right then, last but not least, Kingdom come deliverance two. 93 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,240 Let's see, I keep leaning into the frame because I'm like, I know, I know. Five-layer, 94 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:44,800 tandem OLED panel, boys. It sure looks pretty. It really does in any game. And MSI has asked us 95 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,560 to point out that you can make your whole desk look pretty too with Windows Dynamic Lighting 96 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:53,440 certification that syncs lighting effects across multiple devices. I know this is the start of 97 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:59,120 the game and it might get a little harder to run later once we're in a forest, but 140 average and 98 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:07,600 like 130, 1% lows, 120. I don't know how badly it's going to make my 4090 cry, but I do know that if 99 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:15,680 I go home now and I boot this up and I'm getting less than 100 in your 1% lows. Less than 100 in 100 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:21,600 my 1% lows or even in averages. I'm going to be real upset now that I've seen this. You are such a 101 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,480 diva. I'm going to be real upset. You know that, right? I know, but I just want it to look good. 102 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:33,520 We're seeing the odd dip. I can deal with that. It's almost impossible to fully fix random hitching, 103 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:39,040 especially in new games. But I mean, look, I'm fighting people and I'm getting like 120, 104 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:49,440 130 FPS. Man, okay. Now it's time for us to look at some community picks. First up, Indiana Jones. 105 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:59,760 At 8K, this ran surprisingly well. Oh man, 140, 150, 130 FPS average. Man, this is such a good 106 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:06,960 looking game. It really is. Those 1% are rock solid above 60. They're like 80 to 110. I would turn 107 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:15,760 it up. Yeah, let's do it. I don't need 120 FPS in a more cinematic exploratory game like this. 108 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Go up one notch because path tracing is demanding. Oh, turn on indirect illumination though. Sure. 109 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:26,640 Oh, that's full RT. I don't think she's going to do this. You've got like a solid 60, 70 FPS 110 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:33,440 average. I wouldn't play it like this. No? No. I mean, move the mouse. Yeah, that feels bad. Yeah, 111 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,760 I wouldn't play it like this. Okay, fair enough. What if the DLSS was turned on? We can try it. 112 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:46,240 120, 115 FPS average. 1% are like 70, 85. We're on quality too. So overall, 113 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,960 usually when you have it set to quality, it looks pretty darn good. It really does. Just buy a 5090. 114 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:58,320 You can't tell people that. Just buy it. It's easy. It's so cheap. You want your games to run good, 115 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,360 don't you? Just spend $2,000 on a graphics card. That's more than what most people spend on their 116 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,840 computers. When you're on your deathbed, do you want to look back and think of how many FPS you 117 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:15,680 could have had if you just... That was so cringe. It's a reference. This monitor may only be Vesa 118 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:21,360 True Black 400 certified, but it can also reach up to 1,000 nits. And it can do that without 119 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,000 issue because MSI's got their OLED care 2.0 to help reduce the risk of image retention. 120 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,080 And if it does happen, they've got a three-year warranty that covers that specifically. 121 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Time for flights in 2024. 37 FPS average, 31% lows. 122 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,480 It's hitching every now and then, which kind of sucks. I'm seeing 1% of literally 123 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:48,640 four single-digit 1%. But the rest of it's pretty okay. Should we turn on DLSS? 124 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,240 We're not getting that much more frames per second though with DLSS on. 125 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:58,880 No. It went up to a solid 45 instead of 33 or so. It's got 40 FPS. 1% are like 30 plus. 126 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,600 And the hitching is bad though. It really kind of is. We have to turn this down. 127 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,200 Yeah. Okay, let's do that. Let's turn it from ultra to one set under. 128 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:13,360 So we're getting closer to 60 averages. 1% of like 45, this feels a lot better already though. 129 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,680 This is incredible. The density is so high. You don't... 130 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,600 You don't need flights in to run at 200 frames a second. No. 131 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,560 It's a slow and steady game. The stutters, they do happen. 132 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:32,160 Sometimes worse than others, especially here with all these like cityscape talk, it did. 133 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,480 But you know, they go away and then it's like it's smooth sailing again. 134 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,960 Flying. Well, it's... Flying is just sailing in the in the sky. 135 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:46,880 Time for a very demanding game. Star Citizen. DLSS? Well, it's just off. So whatever. HDR? 136 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,640 Sure. It's enabled. Blah, blah, blah. Very high. High. 137 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,240 Sure. Let's just let it be cranked. All right. It's barely doing 60 average. 138 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,520 1% are like a solid 10 sometimes. I'm going to take a look at a few more of these. 139 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,880 You want to come back for crisis? Sure. Let's try Elden Ring. 140 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,040 It's capped at 60 FPS, but you know, hopefully those 1% low stutters are gone. 141 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,760 All of our settings are maxed out at 4K, ray tracing, cranked. We've hit our cap 142 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,360 and we're still stuttering every now and then. Next game. 143 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:24,800 For GTA Online, looks like we're using about 5 gigs of video memory set to 4K, 240 hertz. 144 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:31,920 Everything is basically cranked. That's not bad. You know, 155, 160 FPS average. 145 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:39,200 1% lows, 140, 150. I think that if you're playing GTA 5 or online with a 5090, 146 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,360 I don't think you have anything to worry about when it comes to performance at 4K. 147 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Boulder's Gate 3. Everything cranked. We're getting 210 frames a second. 148 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:56,640 Our 1% lows are sitting 150 to 200 FPS. Let's check out Minecraft next. 149 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,520 It's got everything set to, you know, max render distance, max simulation distance. 150 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:07,360 Everything else is turned on or set to max. So you might get some initial hitching, 151 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:14,400 but now we're seeing 230 FPS average. 1% are around 200 as well. 152 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,560 Minecraft is running pretty well, but you know what? We can make it look a little prettier than this. 153 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:23,120 Now we've got Minecraft with BSL shaders, and it looks incredible. 154 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:32,480 I'm still getting like 165 FPS average, 150, 180. 1% lows goes deep down as like 36. 155 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,520 I think that if you want to play maxed out Minecraft at 4K with a 5090, 156 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,320 this is a very comfortable gaming experience. Next game. 157 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:49,520 Okay, 4K, HDR, PQ10, share, reflux. On with boost. 158 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Okay, now we're looking at cyberpunk. No ray tracing, no DLSS. It looks great. It runs great. 159 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:04,560 Next game. As for arc survival ascended, this one's very unoptimized. We're at 4K, 160 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:10,400 render scale set to 100%, even though DLSS is set to off. Just in case, graphics is all pretty 161 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:18,400 maxed out here. I'm getting like 100 FPS average, 1% is dipping into 50s, but they're usually around 162 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:25,280 65, 70. This is very playable. Now let's play another game you guys requested that wasn't great at 163 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:31,840 launch, but has become pretty good over the years. Fallout 76. I've got everything maxed out, 4K, 164 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:38,800 and I'm getting 240, 260 frames a second rock solid performance. You know, your 1% lows are 165 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,120 going to dip, but it's not anything that you're going to feel terrible about. I don't experience 166 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:50,560 any hitching right now. Now time for beamNG. We've got it set to 4K, ultra preset. I haven't touched 167 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,640 any of these. It could be turned up a little more, but I think ultra preset is more than fair. 168 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,800 All right, we're getting the odd hitch. Just chilling on the beach here, but otherwise I'm 169 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:07,840 seeing, you know, 300 FPS. It's actually a pretty rock solid 1% lows. This low is 175 going up into 170 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:14,320 200, 240. I know this isn't the most scenic environment, otherwise, you know, it's pretty solid. 171 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:21,760 Let's check out black ops 6, 4K, native resolution, extreme graphics preset. Yeah, 172 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,000 we've played almost a full match and I'm still getting like 160 average frames a second with 173 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:32,560 lows of like 144, 150. It's a small map and it's not warzone. I don't know if warzone handles a lot 174 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:38,880 worse than this, but this seems more than playable. Another one you guys requested is Destiny 2, 175 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:45,200 we're in 4K. Everything is cranked. I'm sure our 1% lows aren't that awful. Like, I'm not feeling 176 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:54,400 any hitching. Game is just working. Feels great. Stephen, if you're watching this, 4K, Destiny 2, 177 00:17:54,400 --> 00:18:02,000 5090, 250, 300 frames a second, you know you want it. Of course. Of course they want crisis remastered. 178 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Yeah, there were a few nerds. There were a lot of people asking for the original crisis. 179 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Yeah, everything is set to Canon Run Cryo. HDR on, it does have it. Very good. You're getting 180 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:18,720 113 FPS though, average. 1% dip pretty heavily down to like 30, but now that it's kind of settled 181 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:27,440 down, it's, you know, around 100, 110. Dude, the shadows on the gun. They look really good. 182 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:35,360 That water. Look out of the beach. Oh man. Look at these shadows. Look at these shadows done. 183 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,720 Look at the lighting inside here. You get that hard lighting coming in from the sun. 184 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,840 Oh man, this just makes me want the new card. Before we're allowed to make a final decision, 185 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,400 we have to look at the lab's results. These reveal a key thing that our ad hoc testing cannot. 186 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:57,280 Look at how poorly the RTX 3090 has aged. When the 40 series came out a couple of years ago, 187 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:03,680 it was $100 more for double or darn near double the performance. Well, that made the price feel 188 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:10,720 somewhat justified given that it was a decidedly next-gen card. But the 5090 is another $400, 189 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:16,560 or about a 25% increase in price for about what, 20 to 30% performance bump on average? 190 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,880 Is it a bad upgrade? I mean, not if you have the money to throw at it, but you're not getting 191 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,360 nearly the same feel good moment that Upgraders got last time when they plugged in their new card 192 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:29,760 that I got, fired up their favorite game, and then saw a night and day performance improvement. 193 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,840 Atomic heart sees a jump into triple digits, but then a decent uplift with the 5090. 194 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:41,280 City Skylines 2 goes from cinematic to playable to slightly more playable. 195 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,960 The other CS2 sees decent gains from generation to generation, 196 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,640 as does Shadow of the Tomb Raider and, to a similar extent, Tiny Tina's Wonderlands. 197 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,200 But when we include the rest of today's list and games we tested for the review, 198 00:19:53,200 --> 00:20:00,880 most of the charts look like this. Rocket League, Total War, Warhammer 3, Returnal, F124, 199 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,480 The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption 2, Dota 2 is a weird outlier, but we're pretty sure it's just 200 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:12,000 CPU bottlenecked, giving me another excuse to not upgrade to a 5090. Guess what game out of this 201 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,000 whole list I've got the most hours in? Dota 2, that's right, by a wide margin. 202 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:22,080 I'm getting deja vu. This feels a lot like going from the 2080 Ti to the 3090. Back then, 203 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,520 people paid an extra $500 MSRP for about a 20-something percent performance uplift. 204 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:33,840 Although they did get a whack of extra VRAM, the performance was meh, and it was the RAM capacity 205 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,480 that was more desired. The miners cared while Ethereum was still a thing, the productivity 206 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:44,000 benchmarks looked great, and gamers were starting to care about getting more VRAM for higher resolution 207 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,840 gaming. And we're seeing kind of the same thing play out now, except this time it's the AI crowd 208 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,000 instead of the crypto miners that are enjoying the 32 gigs of VRAM on this thing. 209 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,000 As for the productivity guys, well hey, more faster means more money, so they can recoup their 210 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:04,800 investment. But do you need 32 gigs of VRAM for gaming, even at 4K? 211 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,640 Not now and probably not ever, if I'm being honest. Ever is a big word, but like, 212 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:17,280 you know, not ever right now. So then after all this, the 8K gaming, the Labs testing, 213 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:23,360 the 4K gaming today, are you going for it? But don't answer that yet, because I wrote an email 214 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:31,040 to myself with what I'm going to say to Ploof. I wrote this on January 30th. Okay. If I could sell 215 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:41,040 my 4090 right now and go and buy a 5090 tomorrow, I'd do it. But I don't want to sell my 4090 right 216 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:46,720 now and then wait three months maybe for a replacement card. I'm going to sit on my pre-order 217 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,480 and I'm not going to cancel it. No, you have to make a decision, you've got to tell the people. 218 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:56,880 I'm canceling it then, I'm canceling it. You're canceling it. No way. I got it wrong. 219 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:02,320 You got it wrong? You guessed that I would. I'm calling it, you're buying it. Wow, wow. 220 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,520 There were a few big things. The Dota 2 performance, not that I need more than 400 frames a second in 221 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,960 Dota 2, but like, that's the main game I play. The final fantasy thing was huge. 222 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,320 That was a big deal. I was really hoping that it would really fix those 1% lows. 223 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:22,480 Stocker 2 was, that one was tough. That was actually really hard for me seeing it crack 100 224 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:29,440 plus FPS. I can't wait for his I caved tweet. I deleted Twitter because I'm calling it. I'm 225 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:36,000 calling it. I'm still calling it. I'm not uncalling it. That's how this is going to be. I will email 226 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,200 memory express today. Well, tell you what, I'll take it because I'm going for it. All right. 227 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,600 I've got a 3080 in my gaming system. Huge upgrade. Huge. It's an enormous upgrade for me, 228 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,080 but what I'm not going to do is buy more than one of them for my multiple gaming PCs. So I'm 229 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,360 going to have to finally figure out a smooth way of sharing it between here and the theater room. 230 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:02,640 Maybe you can give me a hand with that. I'll do it if you give me this monitor. Come on. You know, 231 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:08,800 it's only 1099 MSI won't mind. I want the 98 watts power delivery and the DP 2.18. 232 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,880 Okay. I think it's pretty well established. You already have a monitor. 233 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,400 Thanks again MSI. We'll have everything we use today linked in the description below if you 234 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,720 want to check it out. And thank you for watching this video. Take a look at the other one we did 235 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:29,120 where we gained an 8K on the 5090. If you are one of the dozen or so people that has a monitor 236 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,880 and has an 8K display. There are dozens of you. Dozens of you.