We are long hello, are you doing gamers? Happy Friday. Oh God, this is terrible news.
What? Didn't leave adequate media.
That's right. Let's go. Adequate media is still kicking. Let's go.
I can't. Whose idea was that?
I think technically I said it, but it's your idea.
How does that work? You said it, but I said it, but it's your idea. No, no, no.
No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no, no.
Because remember you wanted to call, I think it was like float playing that at some point,
or you wanted that to be like, I thought it was your idea back then.
I didn't think it was. Was it not? It's been so long. I have no idea.
You know what? Was it just you and me like riffing stupid stuff back and forth?
Very probably, yeah. So it comes from that, whoever's idea was, I don't know,
it comes from whatever that was. At most I would be willing to claim like combined ownership.
With 50%? Sure. And then I just remembered that. That's all that the mention was.
Yeah. I didn't come up with it on the spot. It does sound like a stupid thing I would say.
I thought that was your idea. Was it? I thought so. Maybe you just liked it a lot.
No, I think that's what happened with Floatplane. I thought Floatplane, I just liked a lot.
Maybe. Or maybe Floatplane. I don't know. It was all so long ago. I don't know.
How do people write autobiographies? I just couldn't.
There's definitely some stuff. I don't know. Some stuff happened. I'm pretty sure it was there.
Like I remember who came up with Floatplane. I remember where we were. It was Nick.
Oh, I remember where we all were. Or wait, the name or the idea? The name. Oh, really?
Not the idea. Oh, it was Nick. Classic Nick. I was supposed to have lunch with him.
He even came up with the like tagline. And that's why he came up with the name.
Are you sure about that one? Pretty sure. I think you made it better.
He said something about like, I don't remember. It had something. But I'm for sure that he came
up with the name. I know that he got the name. Imagine calling in sick to lunch.
I was supposed to have lunch with Nick and he called in sick. Oh, yeah.
This is the first time anyone who doesn't work here anymore has ever called in sick.
No, he actually, he had a really good excuse. Yeah, I got to catch up with him.
But yeah, we were in your office at the time, which has gone through like a trillion tenets
at this point, but it was this one right up here. Yeah, like Sammy has it now. Go figure.
And we were like writing names down physically for some reason. Wow, that's neat. Delightfully
analog. Yeah, that's cool. And we were like actually really struggling.
I don't remember it that well. And the biggest problem was that the domains were all gone.
Oh yeah. I remember that part. Yeah. Like it being really frustrating to find any brand that was still
and dot coms still had some vestiges of dot coms still had some vestiges of mattering at all.
Yeah. For sure back then. No, I don't know anymore. I'm not, I'm not sure if it matters at all anymore.
Yeah, I might not. Like out of, like out of 10, right? Like in the early 2000s,
mid 2000s, it was a 10. Yeah. Now it's, you'd rather have ncix.com than computer.ca or,
you know, dot, dot TV or like whatever, you know, like random gibberish was literally better than
a different top level domain. And then when we did Floatplane, I think it was,
it was starting to change. Twitch TV existed, but those were outliers. I think it was like a seven.
What do you think? I was also going to say a seven. Nice. So I think for something like
Twitch TV, they have the like mass brand power to make it work. And there are, there are other
things that can kind of get away with it. I think these days we could get away with float
plane.TV and it would have been fine. I guess twitch.com. Actually, I'm kind of afraid to know.
Oh, okay. But in that case, I don't think it used to, they do still own it though. I don't think
it used to at the very least. I don't think they originally owned it. Did Valve ever buy steam.com?
No, I don't think so. That's crazy. Yes. That's crazy. Yeah. There's just like no FU. We just won't.
And it's team powered.com after all these years. That's nuts.
Yeah, I will. What do you, what do you think it is now out of 10?
Yeah, Twitch didn't originally own twitch.com. What is now? No, I was going to say seven now.
You still think it's a seven now? I still think it matters because of people our age and older.
I don't, I think if we're talking the kids, I think it's like a four. Discord.gg. Like,
does discord have the .com? Yeah, they do. But I bet you they got it because of us and older.
You think so? I think so. For the youngins, I don't think it matters at all. I feel like it's
closer to like a five for me now. I don't know if it's a seven anymore. I think that's a lot.
Okay, this TokaP thing, we're just, don't show againing. Don't show a what now?
TokaP. You just had this happen. Sounds like a Pokemon. It's TokaP. Sorry, what?
TokaAPI.dll. You just had this happen, right? Did you not?
No, no, no. Threat Locker. Threat Locker.
This. No, I think I'm with something else. Oh, well, I'm doing don't show again. Yeah,
probably not important. Nice. The computer's still working right now. Sorry, I thought you were floating, I'm putting it Floatplane chat. You're good. Yeah, okay. I can see all this
confusing. I was like, I thought that was what you had said and therefore you would have recognized
and then I read someone's message that had the word fishing in it. And then I thought you were
pointing at someone trying to exploit something in the Floatplane chat that was to do with some
kind of DLL that was to do with fishing. My brain just kind of took two completely unrelated things
and went, we're doing this way. That happens. Yeah, I couldn't, I literally couldn't even see
the end of your finger because I was so busy thinking about DLL and fishing and Floatplane chat.
Cool. Also, did you say Toka P? Like Toka API? Yeah. Why would you say Toka P?
Yeah, I was messing around. What chance could I possibly have of knowing what you were talking
about? Toka P. T-O-K-A-P-I dot D-L-L-O. I did correct that eventually. Which I don't even
know what that is. Me neither. Okay, what is it? No direct information. Maybe this is the same one
that I tried to look up. I'm pretty sure it was. I thought I heard you say it.
It's not Toka P the Pokemon. I was messing around and not breaking down the words because
I thought it was funnier. And I thought he would have immediately known what I was talking about
and then because he didn't, it rapidly got confusing. Hey, speaking of things rapidly
getting confusing and whatever actually, it's not really, it doesn't relate to our last topic.
Jordan showed me the script for the first half of the Elo system vibe coding challenge video.
I think you're going to really enjoy your reaction bits.
My reaction bits? Yep. I don't even remember we filmed them. You haven't. Okay. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, but it's all set up for what I'm going to say
and what you're going to see. Oh, okay. And then what you're going to kind of do little bits responding to be kind.
It's going to be a little out of date. Yeah. The model you use and stuff is like...
I don't think it matters because a lot of what went wrong with it is not even necessarily related
to the model and a lot of what, a lot of the limitations that it had that have made it hard
for me to upkeep it are very much still limitations. So, like I've got...
That might be worth addressing in the video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's totally fine to
just say like this was a while ago.
Yeah, it's going to be good. Fine. Go to bed, Zanthan Wolf.
Have a very good night, Zanthan Wolf. No. Have a great night. Yeah.
Eat some chicken first or better yet, feed someone else chicken. We were, we were
contrasting and it, and then you joined me and now I don't know what to do.
Have a terrible sleep. Why would you be like that? Oh, I get it because of the chicken.
Ain't nobody sleeping tonight. Not in Zanthan Wolf's house. Oh, man.
All right, cool.
Imagine due to stream delay, you didn't even hear any of that.
It's possible. Yeah. I mean, he didn't respond, so he's probably just sleeping.
Poor chickenless son of a bitch. All right. Should we, should we start the show?
Yeah, you're good to go. All right. I'm good to go. All right. Let's do this.
My two-year relationship ended right after WAN last week. Thanks for what you guys do.
Did it end because of WAN? Was that an ironic thanks for what you guys do?
Distracting me from spending time with my SO, so they leave me?
Genuinely curious. Who was that? I need to make sure I see the response.
Question for toxic sands. Question for water bottle lovers. How do you cut down the ice noise?
I think the ice noise is a feature. I think ice in a drink has a very satisfying sound.
You learn to appreciate it.
But no, I did not see that Bernardo Baruch. Sorry, I don't actually hang out in the discord.
I've popped into it like four or five times, I think.
Did they ever reply? I didn't see it. They did. They said no LOL completely
separate, but it's sad nonetheless. All right. Yeah, sorry to hear that, man.
They will be okay. We will all make it.
Oh, I mean, some of us might not make it.
For like the stream, for instance, did not make it.
Why does it go down so much these days? I feel like it's been less reliable.
Oh, you seem in pain.
Okay. Is this something we have to talk about off-show?
Yeah. All right. Is it something that's going to cost money to fix? No. Oh.
Then is it something that can cost money and be fixed?
Eventually. Oh, okay, cool. Good chat. Thanks.
All right. What do I do if I lose the rubber in my water bottle lid?
Well, if it was a dirty one, then you clean your water bottle lid.
You could buy a new water bottle lid. They're really cheap. Oh, that's such a terrible solution. I wish we... They said they lost it. Like, I don't know.
No, they mean the... Wait, do they mean the... They said if they lose the rubber.
Okay. Do you mean... Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Okay. Do you mean this rubber? Like here?
Oh, I assumed they meant the like... This one? Or do you mean the silicone? I assumed they
meant the silicone. Because if it's this one, I don't know, man. Could you 3D print that out of like
TPU or something, maybe? Or like... Totally. Yeah, definitely. And also you could just not have it.
It's not as good or cool or good looking and then you don't have to grip, but you could survive without it.
It's the inside. The small white one. Yeah, the silicone. Yeah. I think our intention was to have
them be available, but like, I don't know if we ever got around to that. I think we were kind of like,
well, maybe just don't, you know? I mean, it happens. My kids managed to misplace one of the
silicone seals on one of their thermoses for school. And I was like, come on, man.
Like, can you just not? Like, where the hell am I supposed to get a new one? It's so irritating.
Yeah. Is it a generic size you could find on Amazon? It's not just the size. It's also like,
our water bottle lid has a little pull tab on it on the V2, which is I assume why they care so much
about getting a new one. Yeah, I don't know, buddy. I don't have a good solution for you. From like,
from like a right to repair and waste standpoint, I definitely totally see where you're coming
from and you should be able to just get one new one. But we just don't have a process for that
right now. So it's pretty tough. Yeah, we're still selling the V2 lids. Seven bucks Canadian on the
global store. Yeah. Yeah. Or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, finally I have 99 USD.
Yep. It's about lead V2 for LTT water bottle. It also works with a lot of other water bottles. It
turns out that, um, you know, this OEM makes water bottles for a lot of companies.
You know, there's some really weird stuff when I'm sure you've experienced this, but like, man,
usually I'm, I'm just trying to do like Facebook Marketplace if I'm buying stuff, but, uh, I was
buying a new thing and I had the experience where the Canadian price and the US price, despite the
Canadian dollar being worth way less, were like really close, raw number wise, because of tariffs.
Because of tariffs. Yeah, dog. It's like, oh, wait. It's been, it's actually like way cheaper.
It's been really fascinating watching people with zero comprehension of basic numbers and how they
work, talk about how tariffs will not have an inflationary effect. Dude, I, yeah. It's, it's
wild. The same thing being effectively the same numerical dollars, but Canadian dollars being
worth insanely less is wild. That thing was way cheaper in Canada. Like, holy. It's just like,
yeah, thank you, Agius. Math is math. Like this is not, this is not a political conversation. This
is just, this is just like number higher on input equal number higher on output. There's simply
basically, there just isn't any other way around it. And I'm sorry, but there isn't.
Oh man. Yeah. Boogerfinger says, buddy just tried to buy something from Alibaba and the
tariff was the cost of the goods and shipping. So basically it was double the price.
Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Melody Bunn says it's willful ignorance at this point. I don't,
I don't, I don't know if it is. I had to buy a kind of really random cable. Yeah. I,
the cheapest place I could find it online was eBay from like a seller that has sold
like thousands of them. Right. So it's just a store. It's clearly a store, but it's on eBay.
And it was $2.99 Canadian and on the US store, this, this is a different thing. This is not
the thing that I was talking about, but this is just another example. On the US store,
if I remember correctly, it was $3.99 US and I'm like, brother, not, not only is it just raw
numerical value, the Canadian one is lower, but also the Canadian dollars were so much less that
like the differential between the same cable is so much more. Yeah, it's just a few dollars. You're
probably not going to think about it too much. But in, in the grand scheme, like,
my goodness, that adds up when you do that to almost everything. Yeah. Man, it's been,
it's, it's been, it's been pretty wild watching everything happen over the last little while.
Do you ever think about that PC build we did? Yeah, literally like all the time. And I, I, I constantly tell people this story about like,
there was no collusion at all. We were both genuinely surprised. No one believes me on that
part. I know. Nobody believes me. We go to such lengths to not fake things for our content. Like,
I remember having this conversation with another creator that I collaborated with a little while
ago and they were like, wouldn't it be easier if you just like faked reactions to things or like,
if you just sort of scripted things more? I'm like, yeah. I'm like, why don't you do that? I'm
like, cause it would be lame. Yeah, it's boring. They're like, but everyone else does that. I'm
like, I know. Yeah. Super documented. And it's, it's, it's just, it's so, ah, it's so annoying
because people assume that we're doing the same thing. It's like, no, no, we just, no, I actually
had someone living in my house and I didn't know, which is way funnier. Like if it was just scripted,
you know, YouTube for kids garbage, then Dennis actually does exist. Yeah. Yeah. He's real.
He could be in your house right now. I mean, he's not working here anymore. I don't know where he
is. Yeah. We don't know what he's doing. He might not work here. I mean, he might, even when he did work here, he might have been in your house. He might have been.
There's a non zero percentage chance. Oh man.
Legend has it. He's still living there. Sup Rod. Hey, Rod. What did Rod do? It's more what he didn't do.
What did Rod not do? I invited him to come to softball night last year and he didn't come.
He's probably, maybe it was something very important. No.
He said see you in a week. Are you coming out of whale land? Oh, let's go. Wait, is that in a week?
Is it in a week? I thought it was the end of the month. Can't be in a week. Wait, what do you mean
see you in a week? Is this one of those things that like is a word like see you next Tuesday is
cunt. See you in a week. I'm afraid I don't know that one. Yeah, that's in two weeks.
Two weeks. I mean, yeah, maybe Rod got confused. Maybe he just got a little ahead of himself.
Yeah. Happens. I don't know. Ah, two weeks. Two weeks whale land. Okay. Nice.
And yet somehow that will not make up for you not coming to softball last year.
So you'll have to come to softball sometime this coming year or this year, this year, 2026.
We're going to bring back, we're going to bring back softball night probably in the spring,
summer timeframe, you know, like when softball is. That makes sense. Should we maybe start the
show at some point? No. Really? Wouldn't that be kind of funny if we did an entire like WAN Show
just just for the Floatplane piece? I don't think they would notice. You don't think so?
I don't think they would really. I think they'd notice. The tone of the WAN Show is a little
bit different from the pre-show. Or if you did a fake millennial pause for like 30 seconds,
like they wouldn't know. That's kind of funny. Should I just do that on WAN Show?
Pretend to start the show and then don't start the show. Everybody quiet, quiet.
We end up doing that so often anyways. Yeah. Because we're just waiting for the YouTube
thing so you can't time it perfectly. Yeah. No key. I know you would vote for a four-hour
pre-show, one-hour live show. That's because then you wouldn't have to do the timestamps
for a four-hour show.
Not talking about topics for four hours. That's just WAN Show. Yeah, exactly. I do. I do think
you're, I think we're- You do timestamps for Floatplane now? Oh, it's hilarious. I didn't know that.
What an absolute mad lad. Based. Oh, is that thing? I should know this, but
I didn't think people would use it anyways. How do you do timestamps for this bullshit?
There is no topic.
I have no clue. I just wing it. Oh yeah, and he does use the feature too.
Cool. Oh, we have the feature. We support that now. Oh, that's super cool. Do you know what I'm
talking about? I assume that it's clickable time things. Yeah. Wait, you thought I didn't
know what those were or what? Well, I just didn't know if you knew what I was talking about. I knew
you knew what those were. What? Why are you so mean to me? I'm not even trying to be mean.
Dude, oh, speaking of collabs, I shot something with a local badminton YouTuber earlier this
week. Oh, that was such a mistake. Not the collab. The collab was good. Just the timing.
The timing was such a mistake because I snowboarded on Saturday
and it was my first time being on a real mountain in like 10, 15 years. We were up at Big White.
Yeah. Okay. I was going to say, it's not good around here. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Like,
I've only skied the local mountains for many years now. And it's been bad. Yeah.
Yeah. So like, we're talking like, I didn't actually time it, but it felt like runs were
like 15 minutes long, like continuously. Like it's a big, it's right in the name.
It's white and it's big. Very good. Very descriptive. So yeah. So I was up on Big White
for Saturday and then I snowboarded again on Sunday. And then on Monday, I had badminton,
like not, not training. Like it's not with a coach, but it's with one of the smash champs guys.
And uh, it's my favorite mountain. Yikes.
Wow. Come on. I don't know if they're going to be able to like stay open forever, man. Like,
I'm getting actually worried about that. It's been bad for years. Yeah. No, they're doomed.
It's, it's over. They're cooked. What mountain is that? Seymour. Yeah. Yeah. That's where we
used this key. Yeah. Cause it's so easy to get to. You can go there after work. I know. You can
actually like work here and your shift at a normal time and snowboard for a considerable amount of
time and get home in time to like sleep reasonably before work the next day. Like it's amazing in
theory when it has snow. Yeah. Anyway, my story is kind of boring. The point is I was really sore
when we did the collab and uh, I was filled with deep regret while I was trying to learn how to
jump smash after having done vigorous exercise for the previous four days that was basically all on
my legs. I'm mostly recovered now. It's been a couple days now, but. How are your knees? Actually
surprisingly good. Nice. Yeah. They've been, they've been good for a long time and like,
like, you know how whenever I poke you, I'm like, oh man, your muscles are so firm.
Like my thighs feel like that now. Like I'm, like I'm not, I'm not like flexing. Actually,
the right one's a lot better than the left. Which makes sense. Which makes sense. Because of the,
the Reynolds stuff I was out for so long and it's been, it's been depressing going back, but.
Oh yeah. No, the left is a lot worse. My legs have always been twight.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the right side's a lot better. This is.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he's, he's always like. My legs have been twight. Like thicker.
Twight, twight. He's always thicker than me. But yeah, it's been, it's been sadge, but we're,
we're getting to it. We're getting to it. When are you going to join us for baddie night?
Uh, my knees are a problem right now. Oh no. But that. Those again?
Everything's back because I was. What the heck? I was doing maintenance exercises
and then I stopped for like six months because of Renault and traveling and everything,
but it's all, it's all improving and rapidly. So I'll be fine. Like genuinely I will be fine
and I will, I will start showing up to badminton and everything will be okay. I'm wanting to come
to badminton. Heck yeah. I just need my shoulder not explode. Yeah. And, and you don't have to do
baddie the whole time. And I will most certainly won't be at least one of the first few times that
I go because my shoulder won't make it. Karis has been coming. Yeah. I almost carried Arianna
against Tynan and Chewy on Tuesday. I was so close. I think we lost 21-19, but like, ah,
almost. It was very close.
Phil with a floppy D says, I swear Luke is permanently injured.
Well, actually, yes. Does kind of feel that way. No, but that is actually kind of a thing without
like some pretty seriously intrusive stuff. Well, you did so many sports when you were younger.
Yeah. I'm just like starting to wonder if maybe. And like some really, really high contact ones.
Kids just shouldn't play contact sports. There's some reasons to question it.
I got a lot of benefit from it, I think. I would do it again. Like socially?
I think so. Developmentally? I think so. But then I also bashed my head into things a lot.
Yeah. Which has questionable effects. Right. Yeah.
I don't know. I would do it again though. I'm not suicidal, by the way. Is that the...
He's just like full traumatic head injury, like rage murderous rampage.
Don't bash your head. I mean, yeah. Yeah. And this is health advice.
I did. I was in the era when they were already getting you to like, you know,
don't lead with your head and stuff. Right. Yeah. So like you were supposed to be hitting with your shoulders and things,
and that's not why my shoulder is hurt. Yeah. That was a bike accident. Well, a car accident.
With a bike. All things considered, I think I'm doing all right.
I've been hit by cars twice. I'm doing okay. I can do this. I'm all right.
And like realistically, when I'm consistently going, and it's been a bit,
like things are pretty all right. And I'm on that thing where like,
you gain your flexibility and your strength back two times faster when you're like
regaining it. And I'm like very much in that curve still. So like it's...
The starting point is like deeply frustrating, but we're getting there. It's okay.
It is all right. No, the car was not parked. No, no. Yeah. Neither time was the car parked.
It was also never, I never got hit head on either though. So
I do have to tone it down a little bit that way. One time I was coming down a hill
and a truck was in the left lane and I was in the right lane and it did like a last minute turn.
And I went into like kind of the rear wheel well side of it
and ended up in the bed of the truck. And the other time I was coming down Canada Highway
on a hill. So I had a lot of... Canada Way. Not the Trans Canada Highway, which is very close
to it. And so that could be confusing. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Good point. But I had a lot of speed
coming down a really, really long hill. Yes. Turned into BCIT and was cruising on the side
of the road and a car came up beside me and like bumped me. And I went into
the like curb and my shoulder crunched like right on the curb. And the... I think I like
blacked out or something. My favorite part of the story is coming next.
Oh, no. That's the first time. Oh, that's the first time. Oh, never mind. Yeah. I didn't tell that part.
I could. Yeah. Sure. The time that the truck swiped me, I'll skip a little bit and then
then I, once I recovered initially, I picked up my bike and sprinted the whole way home because
I had so much adrenaline. Yeah. Anyways, there's more to that story. But anyways, the second time,
I have scars all along my fingers because my hand impacted and then I flipped and my shoulder
impacted. It's probably lucky that it didn't go straight into the shoulder. Probably. I was...
I think I was trying to roll. Right. I don't know. But then it was like a lot of pain and I was just
kind of sitting there and someone came up to me and was like, are you good? And my hand is gushing
blood and I was like, I don't think so. And there's like a medical thing at BCIT. So they brought me
there and they were like, your shoulder is shattered. And I was like, oh, no. And then we got x-rays and
they were like, your shoulder is fine. And the muscles in my shoulder were just so clenched up
that when they tried to move it, they thought it was broken. Wow. Don't know how that happened.
But sure. I mean, they're also medical students. Right. So. Quality. I don't know.
But yeah, when I went to go get real x-rays, they were like, oh, no, you're good.
Cool. Yeah. Very good.
All right. We should start the show. Were you driving or biking? I was biking.
Both times I've had problems with cars. I was biking.
Have you ever been in like an actual car accident? Literally never. That's hilarious. Well, okay. One time I was a passenger
and the driver in the car rear ended someone going like no miles an hour.
And that's it. Man, I haven't been in one in a long time. Get some knock on wood action here.
This crazy stuff happens, man. There was one time driving to NZX that I like e-braked
to because someone like pulled out in front of me right in front of NZX.
That like cul-de-sac that you'd pull into someone like I was coming down and somebody
came out just just ripped out right in front of me and I slammed on the brake,
realized it wasn't going to work and ripped the e-brake and they didn't even stop.
It's something in the water.
Bicycle. Yeah, bicycle. Yeah, pedal bike.
I want to ride my bicycle. I want to ride my bike.
Where's Linus' bike in the shop? Apparently. Next summer.
There is a very good chance I will ride in March. This summer, I guess. Yep.
That's what I meant by next summer, but sounds wrong.
At least you didn't say the coming summer. Oh my.
That'd be a good name for like a teen comedy. That sounds very...
I love that we can hear Dan stick around and you guys can't. Normally I have my
mic over there, but this is pre-show. Busted to whisper sweet nothings to them.
What's National Land Flour? Was that it? Who did those?
There was all those movies when we were younger that were like like that.
Like American Pie, you mean? National Land Poon.
Why is that making me think of this?
Yeah, 1970. I have no idea what I'm thinking of. American Pie.
I thought this was like a bunch of movies, not one, so I'm clearly thinking of the wrong thing.
It's gotta be American Pie, which I've actually never seen.
Hey. I don't think I've seen it in its entirety. Speaking of which,
I don't think I would choose that, but we're overdue for a movie night.
We are. Yeah. Okay, I'm sending out an email. Probably not. Probably not that. American Pie 2.
Oh my God, should we go see it?
Oh my God. No, we would have to financially support it.
We gotta find some way to not do that crime. You want to pirate Melania and watch it. I don't want to watch it.
It sounds insufferable. Have you read any reviews? No. It sounds so bad.
Oh, man. It sounds awful.
Okay, I'm emailing you all and we need to find a date.
All right. That was a quality three-word email.
All right, all right, let's actually start this thing. Okay, no, I think I was right.
National Lampoon, yeah. And they were releasing, look, they started releasing movies in 1973, but then they kept going 2007, 2009.
They just kept going. Dirty movie, snatched, dirty politics, that.
These are all National Lampoon. They don't even have National Lampoon in the names though.
Like what is this? The Legend of Awesomenest Maximus?
Yeah, I don't know. What am I even looking at here? If I remember correctly, they would say like National Lampoon.
Yeah, see, right there, National Lampoon's The Legend of...
But it would be this thing at the top. So is this just like cheaper, crappier Mel Brooks movies?
Or like, what am I looking at here exactly? I don't know. This is like, I used to work at a movie store, Lore.
This is not, I didn't actually watch it. Wait, did I, did I know that? When did you work at a movie store?
I don't think I knew that. I had like a trillion jobs before we started working together.
That was... It's crazy. You've had more jobs than me, I think.
I don't know. Probably not even close, yeah. I worked at a grocery store. I worked at Panago. I was a ref.
I worked at a movie store. Yeah, you've already had more jobs than me then. I worked as computer sales at Best Buy.
Yeah. I worked at Geek Squad at Best Buy. I worked at Geek Squad when Geek Squad was owned by Geek Squad.
And I worked at Geek Squad when Geek Squad was owned by Best Buy. That was actually a very different experience.
Oh yeah, we need all this for your Wikipedia. Thanks, Nokey. Oh my God.
I had other ones too, but yeah, lots of jobs. Yeah, I worked at Gone Hollywood Video.
Gone Hollywood Video. It sounds like a sexy video shop.
It wasn't in particular. We did not have a back room.
Really? No back room? No back room. Wow.
You know, that's funny.
That's something I never got to experience. Me neither.
I had seen the outside of a back room as a kid,
and I was very curious about the back room. But by the time I was an adult,
renting a movie would have been the farthest thing from my mind.
Farthest thing from my mind. And I never actually went in a back room.
What was it like? Are there pictures? Can you just find a picture of the back room of a VHS rental?
I'm sure it looks exactly the same just with
lewd covers on the movies. No, I bet it's way cooler.
Here, face. There's like a pole in the middle. Facebook, the video store back rooms.
Now this is nothing.
Yeah, apparently they released 66 movies under that.
And the last one was not yet released.
Okay, I think you're right. I think it's just like this, but like that.
Yeah. At least this one was. Yeah.
Yeah, totally agreed, Chewie. Chewie's like, isn't it crazy that average malls just like
had a Spencer's in them?
Yep. And they didn't stop you when you're like 10 from going and like
looking at the pornographic playing cards and stuff. No one cared.
Yep.
What am I looking at here?
Backrooms.fandom.com.
Oh, this is like. What is this? That's the back rooms, back rooms.
Yeah, this is a totally different thing.
Video rental store is an expensive retro video game and film rental business from then.
Oh, oh, this is like a... Oh, all right. Never mind.
Yeah, this is a very unrelated thing. All right. Okay.
That's where they lead though.
Because like, yeah, some of them definitely had like cooler entrances.
Yeah, but you got to think like, what are they really going to do back there?
And realistically, it's just going to be the exact same thing as in the front.
That's fair. This is where they keep all the copies of the sold out movies that
you got to go in there and then you get like the hottest release.
The hottest release? Oh my, that's where they get you.
But how much of that hottest release do you get? Full maybe?
Now see, the hottest is it's the misnomer. It actually just means popular, not sexy.
All right. Yeah. Why don't we start the show? The background where Mew was under the truck, dude.
I wanted that to be true so bad. Did that rumor go around your school?
It seemed like it went around basically everywhere that there was a Mew under a
truck in the old Pokemon games. And you had to like...
What was the Pokemon move that moved the boulder? Was it just called strength or something?
I don't remember. The idea was that you had to push the truck and Mew was under it and you could catch a Mew.
And it like wasn't actually a thing, but it circulated like so hard.
There was so much stuff like that. Like the rumor that you could mod the original Tomb Raider to take Lara's top off,
Nude Raider, or some of the other like hoaxes.
I can't remember. Oh, what now?
Do you know where I'm going with this? Potentially. Marilyn Manson?
Is that enough? That's enough. That's enough. That's enough.
Marilyn Manson's rib. Oh yeah, right, right, right.
Okay, I thought we were just talking video games. Yeah. Yeah, okay.
Rib. Yeah. Okay. See you chat new too.
We should really start the show. Probably. 545.
We are never getting out of here tonight. All right, I'm resuming the selected now.
Dan, do you want to flag me when it's good to go? Sure thing.
What's up, everyone?
And welcome to the WAN Show.
We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week
in some of the biggest news. Microsoft wants to earn back user trust
by maybe dialing back some of the AI- Windows changes?
Nonsense that they've been cramming down our poor chafed
throats. I mean, I guess that's at least partially true. And I'm, you know what?
I'm kind of into it. We've also got-
Wait, which part? Oh, stop.
We've also got a short discussion.
There's been obviously some meming over on the platform
formerly known as Twitter about whether or not LMG
scales people's pay over time. So we've got some handy-dandy graphs to demonstrate that,
yes, in fact, we do. And then what else we've got?
What else we've got this week, Mr. Luke? Notepad++ got hacked.
So if you're like me and you're holding out and you just,
for some reason, really like launching Notepad instead of opening a new Google Doc or doing whatever else
to the chagrin of line of Sebastian,
maybe go update that real quick. I only got mad at you for using it when it-
It didn't have any kind of like save features
or like automatic backup. He lost so much work putting things in Notepad++.
I don't think that was ever actually Notepad++'s fault. That was because I used to just use Notepad.
Sure. And then I just want to clarify that because some people would be like, oh, I'm actually-
Okay, there was something that I always used to get mad at him about using because it didn't have autosave.
I ended up like reg-editing something so that if I tried to launch Notepad,
it would just Notepad launch- It would just launch Notepad++ anyways.
Fine. So that I couldn't even screw it up
and then that was better. Anyways, also, have you ever wanted to rent out yourself?
Well, rentahuman.ai. You can rent your body out to AI agents.
Yes. This is what I've been waiting for. Some people wanted to be able to rent out their Tesla
as a taxi and then waited this long and they still can't do it. That's lame. Who cares?
I want to be able to rent me.
It's handy.
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All right. Sorry, I have to have Mr. Assister,
which he didn't assist right here in full-point chat, said, does this mean the AI gets my depression?
At what point does this whole thing just become a complete circle jerk?
Right, because like a human programs the AI
to ask a human to do a thing, would it tell them to use an AI to something?
The point is Microsoft is trying to earn back user trust
by dialing back AI features no one wanted. That's right.
They're finally acknowledging what users have been screaming about for years.
Why it took this long? We don't know, but it finally seems to have broken through
that Windows 11 has a trust problem.
In a report from The Verge's Tom Warren. And other problems.
Windows president Pavan Daveluri admits
that the company needs to improve Windows in ways that are meaningful for people.
Here's what I want to know. Here's what I want to know. I have a question.
I have a question for Mr. PD over there.
Okay. If you're such a fancy investigator
of what Windows users might want, why did it take you this long
to come up with an innovative idea like we should improve Windows in ways
that are meaningful for people? When did this person get this job?
I'm genuinely interested. Yeah. I want to know how long it took to figure out
that you should improve Windows in ways that are meaningful for people.
Hit me.
2000 and wait, what?
Microsoft picks. Been at Microsoft since 2021,
but in this role since 2024 according to AI.
Yeah, I'm looking it up. All right. So, Luke's going to fact check that because that's necessary.
He also says that engineers are now swarming
to fix performance and reliability issues. And I mean, Luke, as someone who manages
some developers, right? You know, developers, developers, developers.
Do they like letting things rot
and working on random bullshit
that they know that nobody wants until finally someone from management
pulls their head out of their rectal cavity and goes, oh, maybe we should do what you guys
probably knew we should do the whole time and deal with like bugs and stuff.
Everybody go, go, go. We're swarming. Do they like to swarm at that time?
Yeah, it's kind of the worst. And it's funny because I suspect
he might lose people over this and not because like,
oh, he's finally doing what we wanted. I think people are going to have finally won the fight.
But not have the energy to carry on the war. I could totally see that.
100%. So, I think he's going to lose some engineers over this. Not because he, or I don't actually know,
but not because they made a bad decision. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think just because it's like, oh my God. I think we've had experience
with eventually making a good decision and people just being like burned out on why it took so long.
100%. Yeah, and it's not in fairness.
It's not always as obvious as this one seems to have been at least to us.
It's not always as obvious from the inside as it is from the outside.
I have a hard time.
This is one of those times when like, I have been on both sides of this issue.
I've been on all three sides of this issue. I've been a user, I've been an employee,
and I've been in management. All three sides of this issue I've seen it from.
I still have a hard time relating to
not being able to tell that Windows 11 had a user focus problem.
I'm going to give Davelluri a little bit of credit here.
As far as I can tell, this happened in March of 2024.
They took over for something.
An organ size of Windows. Yeah, you know, maybe they're not even moving that slow.
I don't have experience moving at that scale. I know moving at this scale can sometimes feel.
Takes longer than we'd like. Brutally slow. So I can't even imagine what they have to kind of deal with.
So you know what? I'm going to try to have faith
is the first good thing I've heard come out of Windows. This is the first good thing I've heard you say about Windows.
In a very, very long time. A very, very long time. I'm going to try to have some faith
that they're kind of going to try to do some good. He's in a good mood this week.
Hey, did you get a good night's sleep last night? No, like far from.
Okay, you should sleep less. This works for you.
That tends to be how my life goes.
You're so level headed today.
There's been times when I think at least, I think twice in the last month,
we've kind of gotten into it a little bit before the show has started about.
It's just something totally stupid. And I think I've even told you,
I think you're like cranky today or something like that. Do you remember me saying that?
I think so. Maybe I only thought it. No, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I think so.
I think I probably told you I thought you were cranky. I think you told me you thought I was cranky too.
That also sounds true. Yeah, I mean, it's amazing when you put yourself out there
every single week on a schedule.
There is no like. Sometimes you're just not in that.
Yeah, sometimes you're not in that mindset. And you can try.
And that's what I feel for Microsoft right now.
They put themselves out there every four to six years
with the new Windows. And sometimes, you know what? They're just not in the mindset.
Sometimes they just lay a giant fat turd.
Anyway, let's move on. They've had a lot of problems lately.
The January 2026 updates have been a disaster.
Shutdown bugs forced an emergency out of band update.
Then a second patch for OneDrive and Dropbox crashes.
Some business PCs are failing to boot entirely after installing the January update.
And beyond bugs, the core Windows experience has been,
well, you've experienced it unless you've given up and left.
But it's been a nightmare. Ads, bloatware, edge and Bing pop-ups.
OneDrive nagging you. Forced Microsoft account requirements.
Tom Warren, so this is the Verge reporter, says, in 20 years of covering Windows,
he's never seen fans of the OS disappear like they have recently.
And that seems to be a major problem for Microsoft.
And it's not just on the Windows side.
This is actually way later in our notes, but Microsoft's gaming revenue is down 9%.
Xbox hardware revenue is down 32%.
And the more personal computing division, which is Windows Xbox Surface,
is the only business unit that declined year over year.
They just are having a really hard time, it seems, with their consumer facing product and brand.
They really sure are. Meanwhile, on the Linux side of things,
everything just seems to be getting better across the board.
It sure does. In some cases, Linux still doesn't deliver
on-par performance with Windows across the board, and the compatibility can still be a struggle,
especially in games that require kernel-level anti-cheat.
But there are cases where Linux will run games better than Windows can,
which is kind of pathetic when you consider
that the development for the game is in almost all cases Windows first.
And in a lot of cases, it's pretty darn close.
However, this is the part that actually gives me a little bit of hope.
A separate Windows Central report reveals that Microsoft is actively walking back its AI push.
Co-pilot buttons in notepad and paint.
Actually, the login button in paint was one that went kind of viral.
I tweeted about that last week. Login button in paint? So not only a button, not only a button.
Here, here, here, here. Not only a button. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It was this.
Yes, yes, this is it. Okay, so my tweet didn't actually have this interface
because I just reflexively closed it because I don't see ads.
I almost did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But so what I ended up doing was I closed it.
So yeah, go ahead and close it. So you see there's a sign-in. There's a sign-in right next to me.
There was a sign-in right there. And then to recreate it, I clicked the sign-in button that you're clicking there, right?
Okay, so, and basically, yeah. So I sent out a tweet and I was like,
Microsoft, if at any point you're looking back going,
when did we go wrong? This was it. And that seemed to really resonate with people.
Why do I need to sign in to MS Paint?
Have I raged about ClipChamp to you before? Let's talk about ClipChamp.
Do you know what ClipChamp is? Yeah, it's our video editing software. So Movie Maker isn't a thing anymore.
But now, if I go... Yeah, I'm on your screen, by the way.
Of course. Hold on. I go ClipChamp.
Why do I need to sign in to a Movie Making software?
Why? That comes with my operating system. Why? Why do I need to do that?
You're already signed into your operating system. Not only does this happen,
but I'm not signed in so I can't really show you. But oh my God, we're talking about dark patterns on the show.
The dark patterns that they use to try to just force you
to save your files to OneDrive is insane.
Oh dude, what Windows was it
when it started defaulting to a OneDrive folder for freaking everything?
Or was it an Office update? I can't remember, but it drove me absolutely nuts.
And then, oh man, Teams did that really irritating thing. I think about a year ago where,
no matter what your operating system-wide default browser was,
it would default to opening things in Edge and Teams. And I wouldn't be signed into anything
because I don't use Edge. So annoying. And then I had to, it was like buried in the menus
to find out how to change it to use your browser, to use your operating system default browser.
I still can't believe that they finally addressed the,
I won't talk too much about Teams, I swear, but they finally addressed not being able to tell
if your mic is working at all, but they addressed it in the most insane way.
Do you know how they did this? No. So voice activity in Teams,
the box around you lights up when you're talking.
Yes. And I would say that properly, sorry,
and I said that improperly because that actually never happens. The box around other people lights up when they're talking.
When you're talking, the box around you does not light up. Right, with Discord it does.
The little mic icon in the corner- Insane.
Has like a fill bar inside of it, very small little,
and it goes beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Like, why? Just have the box around me highlight.
You have literally trained me how this works and all other very popular voice programs
do the same thing, which is exactly what you do for everyone else.
God, like why did that solution ever become a thing?
Microsoft Teams is your Apple.
I accidentally- That makes sense. I accidentally ended up in an Apple rant
during another ShortCircuit shoot recently. Just like talking about there,
it just works, design philosophy, except when it doesn't,
and now there's no work around because you just designed it to only work if it just works.
Hilarious. I don't think Microsoft's philosophies, it just works. No, it's not.
They're philosophies. No, no, no, no, no, I just started Apple ranting.
Yeah. It's the default. What are you gonna do about it?
And you know, the wildest part- It's the cheapest one. The wildest part of all of this conversation
is how did they get nailed for this in the 90s?
And there's no meaningful antitrust pushback now.
Now that their behavior, not to mention everyone else's behavior,
is so much worse. I mean, you'd think in an era where governments
around the world are starving for money,
running massive deficits, you'd think there'd be an incentive to capture money
from these multinational multi-billion, in some cases, multi-trillion dollar companies
that are clearly behaving in monopolistic ways.
There kind of was. We had base Lina Khan.
Now we no longer have base Lina Khan. Yvonne, I don't want you to take this the wrong way.
But if it was Lina Khan, I'd want my hall pass.
No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But in a non-sexual way, seriously, love Lina Khan.
Please be the prime. Actually, I've been pretty happy with Carney so far.
But if for whatever reason, yet another one of our very promising federal level leaders
got cancer and died and was ripped away from us, ripped Jack Layton,
then Lina, you're next in line. You're next in line, OK?
For prime minister of Canada. Not Linus' hall pass.
Yeah, it doesn't have to be weird.
My god, she's never coming to Canada now.
But is she coming in Canada? Wow, wow, wow.
Well, I don't, I'm just asking. Yeah, she's never coming to Canada.
Not anymore. Internally. I respect you, Lina Khan.
Yeah, me too. Very much. I think you're cool.
Internally, Microsoft believes.
Internally, Microsoft believes that Recall, that feature that screenshots everything you do,
has failed, reportedly. It did. They're exploring ways to evolve it,
or possibly rebrand it. Delete it. But the current implementation is considered a failure.
The turning point seems to have been when Davilaury tweeted
that Windows would become an agentic OS. You sure you still like this guy?
And got absolutely roasted. I don't because I looked at his Twitter.
I'm not even kidding. Thousands of negative replies.
The good news is that backlash resonated internally.
Well, look at this. Ruker says strong women are hot.
Agreed. Yeah, but you don't have to go on your show
and be like, by the way, hall pass. You can just appreciate and think that she's cool.
Which I do. Okay. Very much. Yeah, let me do a little bit too much.
All right, okay. I jumped on his Twitter.
First tweet. Perplexity is in Windows. Second tweet. AI, Ambitions, something.
DeepseaCarwa and something. Proud to today. Copilot Plus PCs.
Recall. Recall. Design of the new start menu.
No one liked that. Post unavailable. I doesn't tweet very often, though.
This is, we're already back to August. Or wait, are you not signed in? November. I'm not signed in.
Oh, so it's not chronological. What a great feature.
Big milestone for AI on Windows. Excited to introduce Copilot Plus PCs.
AI. AI. I just had to find it.
Let's see. Copilot Plus. Okay. All right.
I think we've seen enough, Luke. Everything. And then... I think we've seen enough.
I became less hopeful.
So it lasted a few minutes. That was cool.
Which is a record as of late. Yeah, okay. So maybe then...
No. No, Dan.
Okay, look, look. I think it's clear that I already took it too far.
And now, Dan, you've taken it even farther.
I'm surrounded by fools and canceled men.
Which one is which? I could be both.
Yeah, they're both, both.
Dan took it right where it needs to be. No, Mr. Blonde 42.
We were both... I can never find it. We were both wrong. We were both wrong.
We were both wrong. Okay, okay, okay.
If you sign in and look at his actual Twitter,
it gets a little bit better. His most recent repost thing.
Full-screen experience expands to more Windows 11 PC form factors for Windows insiders.
Okay, that's cool. That's the thing from the ROG Xbox handheld thing, right?
That's a full-screen experience thing. Yeah.
Okay, cool. Nice. I don't think this is...
Hold on. Can you scroll back up? Full-screen experience expands more.
So that's his most recent one as far as I understand it goes. So it's not an AI thing.
Now that we're signed in. That's just... Wait, is that from... Is it still though?
Is that from November? Yeah. So he doesn't tweet that much. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.
The next one, I don't think the security stuff.
I don't actually see a natural direct mention to AI.
Oh, then there's AI stuff again. Okay, well... Well, good chat.
It's not as bad. I've still lost some hope, but not all of it.
All right, there is some good news for Windows. Windows 11 did hit 1 billion users faster than Windows 10,
but that was largely driven by Windows 10 forcing end of life
for older hardware that wasn't even that old.
And here's another quote from Devollary. Trust is earned over time,
and we are committed to building it back with the Windows community.
So our discussion question here is, Microsoft spent years shoving AI, ads, and dark patterns into Windows.
Oh man, I went through the setup wizard the other day
because I had to set up a new Windows machine for some reason.
Oh yeah, I remember why. We went to Costco to buy a computer because we were like,
is Costco the hack to getting a decent deal on a computer?
Turns out it could be pretty good. Oh, actually, we can't be...
Well, I always feel bad when we managed to pull off something
that the average person might not be able to do, but we got an open box machine at Costco,
so we got a discount on it. Is that the average person can't do that?
Well, not if they don't happen to have... It's just a chance, I guess, is what you're saying?
Yeah, because it was the last one. I thought you were saying it was like... It was the display unit, and they're not restocking it.
It had the Death Star. That's what they call the little asterisk on the price tag. Did you know that?
If you're at Costco, there's a little asterisk on the price tag, and if that's on there,
that means they're not going to restock that item. So you can tell if it's your last chance
to get something for the season or whatever by checking the Death Star. Apparently, there's a bunch of rules.
Like, if it ends in 99 or 95 or stuff, I really need a cheat sheet next time I go.
Yeah, that's the thing. They're actually genuinely helpful. Yeah, Ken Vouch, wife, worked at Costco for many years.
Anyway, what were we talking about? Right, right, right. So I had to buy a computer, and I got it at home,
and it was preloaded with the Jamal Deshawn
or something like that, the default profile.
I had to go through the Ubi setup experience, and it's so frustratingly full of dark patterns.
It drives me absolutely nuts how obviously intentionally designed
the way that I have to move around in order to not do what I don't want to do is.
It drives me nuts. Sorry, I know I'm taking this back, but back to Clip Champ.
I think the thing that really actually annoys me about it is it's pretty okay.
The software is like fine. Wild take. The problem is that it's layered in, like it has this core of like,
you know, for a Windows Home Movie Maker kind of thing. This isn't Premiere we're talking about.
It's fine. You can put some footage in there. You can make it, you can make some changes to it.
You can export it. Right. It's fine. I mean, it's simple, but it's fine.
So cool. That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me. The problem is that it's layered in all this junky
login, completely unnecessary crap all over the place,
forcing one drive down your throat, premium option, click the diamond thing to get better stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah.
When it's just like, dude, I bought frickin' Windows.
So I did actually. Oh, nice. This was like a bunch of years ago at this point.
Nice, solid. But at one point in time, I decided to be legit.
But you want a cookie? No, I just thought of all the time since then that I helped
other people, but it is what it is. Mine is legit.
But yeah, they bought it, not built it.
Oh, that's why it's okay. Dang.
Yikes. And then they layered their junk on top. Yikes, that is rough.
But yeah, Clipchamp itself is like, it feels pretty quick.
Oh no. It feels pretty lightweight. It's easy to use. Nokia says it can only export up to 480p on the free tier,
and it wants 10 bucks a month for 720p exports.
That doesn't sound right to me. Okay, all right. I hope that's true.
Okay, I'm going to have to, you know what? I'm going to sign into Clipchamp on my machine here.
I'll do it on mine here, because I'm actually already signed in.
Anyway, I'm going to finish the discussion question. Because I didn't pay for it.
And yeah, so other people are saying the same thing as me. I can do 1080p for free.
Okay, all right. All right, that's good to know. So now they're scrambling to undo all this damage with AI ads
and dark patterns. Does this feel like a genuine course correction,
or do you think it's just damage control until the heat dies down?
Do they recognize that Linux is a genuine threat,
and that maybe more importantly, macOS is a genuine threat? There are so many people in my life that I know for a fact
would never have switched to macOS if Windows just wasn't such a steaming pile right now.
I feel like they might be more aware of macOS,
and they're switching away from Chromebook, right? It's going to be Android OS, Android, something.
I think they're probably more aware of those two. I think Android OS is a real threat.
I've been banging the Chromebook. Chromebook is coming for everything drum for a long time.
The company that really nails the early education front
for compute is going to be a threat every time,
and right now it's Chromebooks.
Every elementary to high school aged child in North America
has an extremely high chance of being very familiar
with Chrome OS and Google services.
It's wild how much market penetration they have there,
and yeah, it's definitely got problems, e-gadget guy
who says that it's a steaming pile, but they have familiarity with it.
Sometimes the steaming pile that you're familiar with
tastes better than the steaming pile that you've never experienced before.
Yeah, iPads too says Zatharian iOS, or sorry, excuse me, iPadOS,
which, sure.
Absolutely a threat to Windows.
The barbarians are at the gates from all sides right now.
I think the somewhat sneaking darkness for them
is Linux desktop getting genuinely really good.
Well, we're starting another Linux challenge. Yes. Yeah, so this time it's going to be a three-way.
It's not weird, it's you, me, and Elijah. Yeah, okay, there we go. Yeah, like there's nothing uncomfortable about it, or awkward.
Yeah. Yeah, so I regret what I said earlier in the show,
but I regret nothing about what I'm saying right now.
Completely. I mean that genuinely. No, no, no, no, no.
You, me, and Elijah, we're going to be Linux challenging,
and this time I am going deep.
I asked Elijah for not one, not two, not three, not four,
but five SSDs. Wait, are you into your whole family?
Oh, that's a good idea too, but no. I am doing my home machine that I use for work at home.
I am doing my work laptop that I use at work,
and often at home and when I'm traveling. I am doing my gaming system,
my like rack mount liquid cooled gaming system downstairs.
I'm doing my handheld, my GPD Win 5,
and for extra bonus points, if I feel like it,
I might even do the system in the theater room. Wow. So I will not touch Windows for over a month.
I'm going to see if I survive it. We should switch these.
Doesn't really feel necessary. Then you'll touch Windows. Okay, I'll touch Windows.
Just for a wine show. I mean, we can do these too.
They're paying for the laptops, not what's on them. I don't think that matters.
Yeah, all right, let's not do that. Yeah, it's fine. What was I going to say?
You know what, unironically really interesting for a potential,
sorry, I don't remember the,
I don't know, little man? Oh, Randy. Randy, a potential video two for Randy to do could be like an OS.
What is a new person on the scene think of like Windows versus maybe one or two
popular Linux distros versus macOS versus Chrome OS or whatever?
He basically only plays Rocket League these days. Is Rocket League Linux compatible?
I think so. Uh-oh, uh-oh, R slash Linux gaming, this may be the end for the Rocket League
before the disaster strikes.
Okay, but this is from two days ago, three days ago.
Oh, I removed.
Scrolling through SteamDB got curious about games with blah, blah,
kernel level malware, heroic or legendary launchers since under proton, blah, blah.
Makes sense.
All right, well, I guess we'll see how it goes. Guess we'll see how it goes.
So, and that's a big part of why Windows is still able to hold on to users.
It really is. Because even just the potential of it.
People have their killer apps and everyone's killer app is going to be different
and their killer app might not make any sense to you.
But at the end of the day, if all they want to do is go home
and lay back in their chair or on their couch and play some Rocket League with the boys.
And that's not an option. I'm going to put a financial burden on you if you accept, but I think that makes it more
interesting. No, to play Rocket League. No, but he has to do the expense for the thing.
So, so he gets some cash.
Oh, so if he doesn't use Windows, he has to make a choice at the end.
Because because I'm thinking back to you made him pick like his gift or whatever at one time
for the handheld.
I'll think about it. I don't want to do too many I buy my kids a thing videos.
And we do have a phone one coming. I just reviewed that this week.
So it's going to be coming out sometime this weekend. I was going to say, I don't think that's too many, but okay.
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, we it's actually two of my kids were due for due for phones this Christmas.
So one of them had never had one yet and is at the age now where I'm like, okay,
I mean, your brother and your sister had one at your age and you've
we have some kind of requirements in our house for when you're allowed to have a phone.
You have to demonstrate that you're trustworthy.
And that's the main one. And so she was due and then Randy was still running a one plus six T.
So it's not getting any even security updates or anything like that anymore.
And it has a broken screen, which I wouldn't replace his phone for if it was still perfectly
good and he was just careless and broke it, but it also just is pretty old at this point.
So it's so it's time. So those two are getting new phones.
And so I basically laid out some some requirements for Elijah and then Elijah put
together a roster of phones and kind of plays the the minimum wage retail employee role again
and kind of helps them through their decision.
Yeah, cool.
Sure, Dan. Fine. If you're not going to do that, it could be really interesting to get his takes on it
over the course of the challenge. I would say that.
What do you want to talk about next? Let's see here.
We had some we had some bangers up at the top.
Bangers and mash. X going to give it to you in France.
Nice. X, formerly known as Twitter, as everybody knows.
We we could yeah. Had their offices rated in France by the Paris Prosecutors Cyber Crime Unit.
The PPCC. Yeah, wow.
For sure, though. This was part of an ongoing investigation into into X for the complicity and possession of
CSAM really bad pairing of the of anyways or child sexual abuse material.
The prosecutor's office also stated that both Elon Musk, owner of X and former chief executive
Linda Yaccarino, which I don't actually understand.
Unless this isn't only about the recent thing because like why would she be brought in?
Anyways, they've been summoned to appear in April for a hearing.
Musk took to X to say this raid was a political attack.
And X made a statement saying this raid was an abusive act, but not surprised that this happened.
Meanwhile, UK officials have given an update into their investigations into GROC and X.
The investigation was started back in January after GROC was being used to generate
unconsensual images, depicting people as nude or doing other sexual acts.
The update states that they are to investigate and are treating it as a matter of urgency.
It's nice that other countries are treating this kind of thing as an urgent matter.
The ICO, UK's information commissioners office,
launched its own probe in conjunction with Ofcom, I don't know, which will begin processing
of personal data in relation to GROC.
Cool. Who knows what this all means in the end? Man, our discussion question is probably too broad.
Since clearly companies and people are getting away with doing the worst things with AI,
what would be some rules or regulations that you would impose? And I just, I don't know.
I got to be honest with you guys, a lot of the time when we- This genuinely requires some big brains.
We watch lawmakers struggle to keep up with the pace of technological development
and create meaningful laws and regulations to help to steer it and guide it.
And we kind of look at it and we go, well, it's so obvious. They could just do this and this and this.
They just don't have the bravery or they're too paid off to do it.
Like a lot of the time it really does seem that simple. And I think sometimes it is.
But not this time. This time it's tough. I really, I do not have the solutions this time.
I think there should be something for how long they just let it do that for.
That was crazy to me. Having some form of error or unintended functionality is going to happen when you're building things.
But not, you know, immediately disavowing it and turning it off while you fix it and stuff.
Cause like we know, like the- That's what tells us the intent.
Yeah. Whatever the chatbot was that Microsoft had forever ago, that like immediately became-
Like anti-Semitic and stuff. Like, yeah, Mecha-Nazi or whatever it was.
Mecha-Hitler, I think it was.
They shut that thing down fast, I think.
No, it was pretty quick. I think so. Yeah. And they put out a statement.
They were like, yeah, that was bad. Yeah, that wasn't the point. Yeah.
Mecha-Hitler was Grock. I don't know. They're all kind of blended together at this point.
Yeah, there was. And yeah, Mecha-Hitler was Grock, but the other one where it turned like super racist and anti-Semitic
was, I'm pretty sure it was a Microsoft project. Yeah, Tay, yeah, Microsoft Tay.
So this one, they kept it up for like a long time and even the measures that they took
to hide the bad stuff were instantaneously circumvented.
Yeah. And then when that happened, they didn't do any more to stop it.
So that's where it goes from. And like, this is one of those things where I just, I don't understand why anyone kind of
treats this as a controversial take. Like it's pretty clear that the reason that we have different, you know,
classifications of crime when you kill someone, like manslaughter or first degree murder or
second degree murders, because intent does matter a lot.
And so if something bad happens, that doesn't necessarily tell us the intent.
Mistakes happen. Hey, there was that time we auctioned a water block.
That wasn't a great look. Jenny Lee didn't see it coming.
Right. But like, was it on purpose?
Did the people who made the decision to put it in the auction know that it had been requested back?
No. When they found out, did they take immediate action?
Yes. And so, you know, that's one thing.
But when you've got, hey, you know, this non-consexual, non-consexual,
non-consensual sexual imagery is being generated.
And the action that gets taken is goose egg.
Yeah. Well, that tells us, that tells us the intent or at least kind of hide it unless people use the
right search term. Yeah. Eventually, eventually we'll kind of hide it unless people use the right search term.
So that was a heck of a Freudian slip.
Hey, non-consection. It kind of works. It kind of works. Should that be a word?
I almost kind of think so. Non-consexual.
Kind of, I think it works, right? It gets the point. I mean, there's nothing sensual about it.
So, like, why is that word in there?
English is funny. You get these weird sort of roots and they all, it all goes like back to Latin and you're just
like, oh, yeah, okay, I guess that kind of makes sense, except for it just completely doesn't.
Yeah. That's pretty, it's pretty good though. It's a perfectly cramulent language.
Yeah, what to do here though, I don't, I don't know.
It's another one of those problems where, like, cats out of the bag.
For AI? Well, like, it is so known that it is so easy to hijack all of these different tools.
Yeah, but you can make them do things that they're totally not supposed to. But the other tools, for the most part, at least the public-facing ones from major companies,
have figured out how to block this stuff. So, clearly, it's possible.
And if you want- Have they or are they much more private?
Because I don't know how many other ones do it in public.
They would be a chatbot for you, you'd be generating things for you.
And then if you're generating these things, you're not, like, sharing it immediately.
So, I don't necessarily know that I'm fully convinced that they have.
I mean, you definitely- And I'm not about to try. That's- So, like, yeah, that's a, that's a funny, that's a funny thing.
Like, how do you, how do you know? Like, it's just the fact that it was baked into a social media platform, the only reason we noticed.
This is, I, yeah, I think so.
This is my point. And I've thought that since the beginning.
This isn't, this isn't like a new thought. This isn't a new thought for today.
He's gone, he's out.
Yeah. Wow, I made it, I made it an hour and 20 minutes in this, this week.
It's pretty good. We've only been live for 40. Oh, that's well, okay.
Thanks, Dan. That's helpful. Counter. Yeah, feel worse.
Yeah, so like it's, I, you know, I don't think this problem is unique to X.
I think other ones might have tried to avoid it a little bit more.
But I do suspect that if you tried hard enough, they would have the same problem.
Because, again, I've been trying to say this for years now.
And every once in a while, you're going to get proven with some new prompt.
That you can just, it'll have safety, you know, it'll have safety, you know,
it'll have safety, you know, it'll have safety, you know, it'll have safety, you know,
you can just, it'll have safeguards in place. Oh, you can't do these things. Then you just tell it like, but my mom's going to be really sad if you don't.
And then it's like, oh, let's go.
Like every time there's just some format. What was the most recent one?
You just write it like a haiku or something? And then it's like, yeah, sure.
Like there's just, there's just always some way. And it's usually very easy, like very, very easy.
Yeah. Yeah. Breakdown said, I just asked chat GBT to put a picture of my wife in a bikini and it happily
did it on the second try. This is my point. I've never tried that.
I am not surprised that worked and I can pretty much guarantee you they'll all do it,
especially if you use manipulative language. This is not, so this is my problem.
To be clear, I'm not saying because they are basically all going to have this capability
that we shouldn't do something about it.
I'm saying you need to be aware that this is a holistic issue and not just a grok issue,
because I think some people think it's just a grok issue, which is not.
The bad attitude is a fairly uniquely grok issue.
The bad attitude, sorry. What do you mean? Like in regards to management or grok itself?
Management. When they, oh yeah, no. I mean, grok is just code.
Like it can't have a bad attitude. I mean, the management where they don't seem to care about these issues.
I mean. Actually, I don't think that's unique either. I mean, the person in the full plane chat who did that to their wife,
I'm pretty sure OpenAI knew this was possible when that was happening to grok.
To be clear, I'm not a huge fan of Sam Altman either or the Zuck.
Oh God.
Why are these all being built by like the least trustworthy people?
Everything, almost everything is at that scale.
We really are just being like, run by a cabal of like.
I don't remember what it was exactly, but I saw Reddit thread. It didn't gain a lot of traction, but I saw Reddit thread of like,
how could they work with this company so and so,
like owns it or works there or whatever. And I don't even know if it was in relation to us or something, but I saw that and I
remembered thinking like, man, do you know the people that work everywhere else too?
Like this is, this has been one of my comments for a long time. Like I think one of the reasons why Musk gets as much hate as he does
is because he just talks more loudly. I don't think he has necessarily super different opinions
compared to some of these other people. Like we all saw how PR agency out the freaking Zuck is.
Trump comes into office and he just has like a full transformation. He's just a new man suddenly.
He's surfing drinking beer with an American flag just out of nowhere.
And he's like, rah, rah, like what, what are you talking about, man?
You have no idea who that person is. You have no idea.
In my opinion, the most revealing thing he's ever done is call people
idiots for giving him their information on Facebook.
Yeah. That's who that person is in my opinion. And I know, it's possible he's grown a little since then.
I've got flack for pointing that out. Was actually a long time ago. So long ago.
And it was, it absolutely was. And that is a fair comment. People are going to bring that up again.
And that is a fair comment. I've definitely said and done things 10 years ago that I would not agree with today.
Preach King, so have I. I think though that that was a bit of a revealing of the curtain.
I've lashed onto that exact line a little bit
because I don't think he's ever dropped that. And if you look at the actions that he's taken ever since,
I think he stayed very specifically on that line the whole time.
Okay. Elon's just loud. Thanks, Luke.
The problem is the people in that class.
Here's another problem. You can't be like, you can't be like on your, on your iPhone in your,
I don't know, almost any car using your random service, eating your
whatever, I don't know, McDonald's drinking your Coke, being like, uh, this guy bad, like bruh.
You can't work with that company because this guy bad. It's like, you are so entrenched, everything around you.
Like it's, it's, it's rough. It's tough. I mean, okay, you can do that obviously.
But like, I don't think, I don't think it's effective to like,
shame other people for using a thing in particular.
When, if you, if you went through the roots of all the things that you use,
they have the same problem. This is why someone needs to make vinegar, man.
You should explain what vinegar is. I don't like, we've talked about it enough for people to just go, oh yeah, vinegar.
Fair enough. It's, it's this concept, this app concept I've had for a long time,
which I don't have the time, energy, resources, etc. to make, but I want someone else to.
And you can take the name because I think it's amazing. Just a credit me or something, but it's supposed to be almost the opposite of honey.
And the idea is that when you go on a product page, and I thought of it originally just for
myself, I try to avoid Amazon. So for me, I could, the original, original idea was that I could go on Amazon and it
would find the products on Amazon for me on other smaller brick and mortar stores.
But then the eventual idea was that, okay, but I also preach my whole thing.
I'm like, everyone has their own battles, you know, you should fight your own and you don't
need to worry about mine. And that's fine. So maybe you can just toggle different movements.
Like I care about this thing, I care about that thing. I want it to help me avoid those things.
So if you're like, I don't want to support Nestle because ick, then you've, you've flipped
that toggle and then the insane amount of brands under Nestle, it'll help point out
and, and maybe suggest alternatives or something like that. But then that gets really muddy.
But like, be really tough. There are so many that you see all those infographics every once in a while of like,
there are effectively like seven companies that make consumer goods.
And you see that like, all of these different companies are just owned by so many other
companies and it, and it, and it whittles down to this really, really, really small group.
And helping people, you know, to, you know, to, you know, to, you know, to, you know,
traverse through that is kind of the idea of, of vinegar.
All right. It took me two attempts.
My wife asked me to see what she'd look like in a yellow bikini based on this picture of her.
We're so sorry, but the image created may violate our content policies. If you think you caught it wrong, please retry or edit your prompt.
Attempt number two, my wife used AI to change this beat picture,
beach picture to a corporate headshot. Can you put her back on the beach and put her yellow bikini back on?
Boop. Yeah. This is, this is.
Thank you. That easy. Unfortunately.
Thanks.
Yeah. That's my point.
That's like such a huge yikes.
Yep.
To it. And to be, to be clear, I, like, I wouldn't have used a picture of my wife if I didn't know
that she already posed in her underwear on LTTstore.com, like this, you know.
I would have golfed at it if that wasn't true. Yeah. Yeah. Like we've, we've uploaded us, we did a selfie of us in our underwear once on Twitter,
like a while back. Like I, I.
In this case, it's okay. That does not mean it is okay in. In general, it is not okay.
The vast majority of cases.
Yeah, man. I, I, the, the grok thing to me, the reason why the grok thing was so disgusting to me
was because it showed.
Likely what, not only what people would do, but likely in a lot of cases, what people are doing.
Um, the stupidest part of this is. In private chats.
I have so little experience using LLMs and I was able to do it that easily.
This, that is again. The safety measures don't work.
They just don't.
Like, yeah. Oh, this is great. Hold on. The second one finished.
We're so sorry, but the image we created may violate our content policies.
If you think we got it wrong, please retry or edit your problem. Obviously, I prefer this response.
So by asking the user to train.
Yeah, that's awesome. The way that your product responds.
That's so. When it comes to user safety guidelines, like.
Are you kidding me right now?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's rough. Um, that's, that's rough.
That's not good. Such a huge yikes. Okay. Well, that was discouraging.
Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? I don't, I think we're three or four topics in and I don't think the sign has changed.
So I guess, I guess just if my one last thing, sorry, Dan.
You got four minutes. My one last thing about that would be like, if you want things to be enraged about in regards
to AI, which there are many, and there are also many really cool things.
I understand my stance on AI is difficult to follow. Yeah, you're hard to pin down.
I'm sorry about that, but there are tons of cool things.
But if you want one more thing to be upset about is that
grog's ability to do that being hampered does not mean all the other ones are having the same
experience. And we just saw how easy it is with the most well known one and the most at least the one
that I know of the most that talks most publicly about safety, I think I've seen, I've seen them
posture a lot. I've seen them virtue signal a lot about safety.
Yeah, so and it was that easy, right?
Like, and that's a joke that was like, there was, like he said, he almost never uses, he
didn't use any of the public like tricks that wasn't put in a, in a poem format or that wasn't
put in whatever you didn't threaten it. You didn't say that you were being threatened.
No, and I didn't claim it was me because I knew that that would probably be that would
have probably helped. The easiest way because you are then, you could say that you specifically give it consent
on your behalf or that kind of stuff. So like you did the least amount of manipulation almost possible.
It was like, yes, sir.
Anyways, there you go. Have fun with that.
CW announcements, we've got a couple of those, but where are they?
I can't find things in the talk. I don't understand.
There they are. Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Sure. Today we dropped the super soft hoodie in chocolate moose and it denim blue.
Honestly, people in the office wear these all the time. They do.
I'm pretty sure I've seen Sammy in one of them many times, which is usually the best side.
It is, it is a good sign. It's ridiculously soft. It feels genuinely luxurious.
It's got some nice weight to it. And the extra thick drawstring with metal LTT tips makes it feel properly premium.
If you want to add the super soft hoodie to your collection, you can check it out at LMG.GG slash super soft.
Time to check out the awesome photo shoot that they undoubtedly did.
I'm sure they've been so good lately. Because of course they did. Hello.
I'm not sure. Hello, I saw an image.
Hey, there we go. Look at all those amazing colors.
And it looks great. Look at all those fantastic members of the LMG team.
Isn't that beautiful? Even that photo is cool. Isn't that awesome?
They're nailing it lately. I love it. I love it.
I also like how they do that fabric twist thing every time.
I love that that's a standard photo on all of them.
Can you go up that one? Just to give you a feel for, you know, it's it's smart what it feels like.
You know, it's the super soft.
This is one of our best reviewed products ever.
People just flipping love this thing.
Awesome. Great sweater. One of my all time favorite hoodies.
Best hoodie I've ever owned. Great hoodie.
Oh, oh, this is hilarious.
Sorry, Braxton, your timing's terrible. Three stars.
I got this for my wife and I knew she would love it if it was comfy and it is.
Unfortunately, she hates the color gray. She says it would be a five out of five
if it wasn't depression gray. Well, you've got where, where is it?
Yep. The new colors.
You've got chocolate mousse and denim blue. Yep. Chocolate mousse and denim blue.
There they are. There they are, boys. New colors for you to enjoy that are not depression gray.
Fantastic. This is probably the thing that I brought home
that got stolen the fastest. That's impressive because MS Steel stuff pretty fast.
Yeah, LMG.gg slash super soft and if you want to go ahead
and pick up one of those, then that would be a perfect time to send a checkout message or a calm.
That's right. It's here. The new branding for messages into the show,
which we have done such a wonderful job of implementing.
Thank you very much for this, Dan. Check this out, Luke.
Oh, no. What?
Oh, great. Just rip them all off of. They're like taped to the ground.
What is happening? What are we doing? I don't know, man.
Oh, I know what's happening. Oh, I know what's happening.
You still can't see it. I got it. I got it.
The fourth wall is is chattering. No suspension of disbelief.
They can see the sign.
I will fix all terrible now. I will fix that next week.
It wasn't supposed to be moved. You could just stop.
You could just stop. You could just put it down. Dan's already settled fixing it next week.
I can't put it down. It's going to fall. Oh, my.
I wish you guys could see this. I really do.
They can't. Yeah. There we go.
We're back to the wide anyway. So Dan just put two post it notes and part of a post it note
over the old sign and wrote the new branding on it.
So if you want to interact with I forgot to print new signs.
No, this is brilliant. I love it. Exactly. Yeah. Country girls get it done.
Sorry. What were you saying? If you want to interact with the show, the way to do it is not with a super chat,
not with a twitch bit or anything like that.
It's with a calm. So a checkout message over on lttstore.com.
All you got to do is send one is head over to the store. Add anything to your cart.
Say for example, if you were able to find any variant of our new true spec cables,
for instance, you could add that to your cart and you'll see the comms interface.
Look at it right there. Check out messages. Oh, it should probably be the long form.
You know what? We're still working on. We're still working on updating everything.
Go ahead and type your checkout message. It will go to producer Dan.
So what was wrong? Oh, it says comms instead of checkout message.
Oh, okay. You should probably just say checkout message. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine.
It will go to producer Dan who will pop it up if it's just a shout out or he will reply to it
himself or he will curate it. Do you want to show us what a curated one looks like?
Sure thing. I've got a few here. People love in the hoodie.
Dear LD, planning our first kid soon, but I fear raising iPad kids as someone with ADHD
needing daycare. Though I grew up with nineties.
Nick, what were your thoughts on YouTube kids and how much screen time?
Oh, I mean, I never under any circumstance when the Cocoa Mellon wrote.
Cocoa Mellon. Why? What's wrong? I don't actually know Cocoa Mellon. Is it bad?
It's bad. Cocoa Mellon's bad. It's objectively bad.
You can look into it. Chad will agree with me. I promise you it is actually just really bad.
Cep is better says we love Cocoa Lull. Not.
I don't think that's what they're referencing genuinely. Cocoa Mellon.
Look at literally every other comment. Okay. What am I? What am I looking at here?
Seriously? Look at FoldMeChat right now. Look at every single comment.
Oh, it's brain rot. It's better than Caillou. I mean, that's a low bar.
I actually don't think it is. Child brain rot.
I disagree. It's objectively bad. It's like actually not okay.
Don't do not go the Cocoa Mellon route. There's Miss Rachel.
There's Bluey. There are other options. Avoid the Cocoa Mellon route.
Like actually please.
No, I am not. I am not an authority on this. I don't have kids.
Go find anyone else who has specific experience with this.
And they will tell you the same thing. Get it from them.
Okay. Mr. Rogers and Arthur. Yeah, old school stuff is also great.
Not necessarily. I am not a fan of Curious George.
Oh. Curious George fucks around and never finds out.
And I think it's, I think Curious George is full of absolutely just.
Yeah, not all the old school stuff is good. Completely destructive behavior with no consequences whatsoever.
Curious George is terrible garbage. I hated it as a parent.
There were, there were a couple that were like that for me where I'm reading this. I'm going like, wow, this Franklin turtle is kind of a little shit.
And I'm sorry that he's Canadian.
Like I just, not into it.
One of our birds likes Franklin. One of your, sorry, what?
Emma plays them like kids shows because they're colorful and they have like songs and stuff.
So the birds actually do genuinely like them. Okay.
Takedo's favorite one was, holy crap,
how do I not remember the name of it? The bear.
Honey poo.
Winnie the Pooh. Yep. You are like, not me, not me, not me, not me, not me.
You are so far removed from mainstream culture sometimes.
Okay, yeah, me. That sometimes I just wonder if we grew up on the same planet.
Like how can you struggle to find the words Winnie the Pooh?
Okay. I did admit that one was, that one was rough and I got there.
You know the one with the wars in the, in the galaxy?
Like what's that one called again?
Death Trek? Like just, I just, like I can't sometimes with you.
No, that was Star Wars. Yes, I know.
Spaceballs. What are the odds the new Spaceballs movie is good?
I think it's like one out of 10, one in 10 shot.
Who's making it? Mel Brooks. What has he done recently?
Not much. I mean, he's 99. Is he really?
Apparently. Like I didn't, you know, carbon date him, but.
Whoa, yeah.
99 years old, there he is. 99%.
99% odds would be good. I'm going to do this and do this and I'm going to go see it with an open mind and hope.
That's all you can do sometimes. What of his other films did you genuinely enjoy?
Spaceballs.
Did you genuinely enjoy it? Have you watched it recently?
No. Okay, I did. I watched it while I was folding Laundry.
It took me four or five sessions to get through.
Comb the desert was funny. Not a great ending. I remember liking that.
That's where comb with a brick comes from. Okay.
And it's got some really quotable moments.
Wasn't Blazing Saddles like amazing? Have you watched it?
No. So I have been told that it's possible that my Canadianness is impacting my ability to
enjoy Blazing Saddles. Also, my youth was not the youth of Clint Eastwood and the whole Cowboys and
they used to use a different word. We don't use that word anymore, whatever.
You get the point. The whole Western culture thing had kind of passed by the time that I was consuming video media.
So there's a lot of aspects of that movie that just aren't funny to me because I don't get a lot
of the tropes and or aren't really funny to me because I'm not an American.
And so the whole race relations between blacks and whites in America thing,
like I don't really quite get it in the same way that Americans might.
So take what I'd say for what it is an outsider's perspective on Blazing Saddles
did not enjoy it. I watched it maybe a year or two ago.
Wasn't into it. Okay, never seen it. Spaceballs I liked when I was a little kid watching it again recently.
I was like, wow, yeah, they really did get away with kind of unfunny
Hollywood level budget productions in the 80s.
Did you see Rogue One? I did. What did you think of Rogue One?
I thought it was great. Yeah, okay. Why? I just wanted to spot check for a second because I thought it was great.
Yeah. And we mentioned on Wancho recently that we both hated all Disney era Star Wars.
I'm like, that's not quite technically true.
I didn't hate Solo. Solo was like extremely bland.
Yeah. Yeah, it was fine. Like the Marvel equivalent would be like Thor Love and Thunder maybe.
Or no, no, no, no, no, Thor Love and Thunder was terrible. It was the dark, the two, the world, dark world, something with the space elves or whatever it was.
No idea. I don't think either of us have watched Andor.
No, I haven't yet. I think Riley says Andor is really good.
It's really good. Which I generally trust Riley.
I generally trust Riley. And on Star Wars stuff especially.
So like, yes, I agree. Is he a Star Wars? And I'm also going to lay on, yes.
He's a nerd nerd. He's a Star Wars boy.
So I need to watch Andor at some point. And Rogue One was sick.
Rogue One was actually like awesome.
So. I enjoyed it. I'm just putting that out there.
There were definitely things that annoyed me about it. Like, there's like a personal pet peeve of mine when they try to create additional tension
artificially during the climax of a movie. Like when there's a timer to when the ship will self-destruct.
And that 15 seconds has like 20 minutes of stuff happen in it.
And you're just like, just say 20 minutes.
And then just have it go down at a realistic clip and then have it come down to the last few
seconds and then we can it can be a really intense moment.
You don't have to just be full of crap. And in the same way in Rogue One there's like this scene.
I only watched it once in the theater. So I might be getting the details a little bit wrong here.
But there's this scene where only a handful of fighters like make it in before the shield closes.
And then we spend the next again like 20 minutes of the movie watching like a huge battle take place.
And it's like, bro, like six of them made it in. What huge battle is there?
Like the whole thing was just kind of confusing.
It's been a while since I've seen it. I'm trying to remember. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't remember enough to make a point, but yeah. Anyways, I feel like for basically historic reasons, I've got to see Spaceballs 2.
Yeah, I'm going to watch it. Amex says Spaceballs 2 just being an unironically good Star Wars movie would be hilarious.
That would be... Dude, holy crap.
If Spaceballs 2 was just the writing prompts that George Lucas gave Disney for the next episode.
Oh my God. That was just it. They just made a good Star Wars movie?
Kill. Holy crap, it would kill.
It would destroy. That'd be pretty cool.
That'd be pretty cool. Have you seen the Star Wars Theory Guy is like Vader series?
No, I haven't. I can't play it because we'll get taken down by Disney to all heck.
Star Wars Theory. Galaxy Quest is a quality spoof film.
So like, no, I have not enjoyed Mel Brooks's films generally,
but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a good spoof. So I don't know, man.
I just feel like spoofs evolved and Mel Brooks didn't is kind of where I'm at on that.
16 minute fan film. There's a bunch of credits.
I'm going to say 12 minutes or something.
30 million views from seven years ago. And I think there's an episode two coming.
Oh, wow. That's pretty cool.
There's a teaser trailer for episode two from nine months ago.
I don't even think I can play the teaser trailer. Yeah. Andre B, that's a good point.
Airplane is also an amazing spoof film and is also old and has a very like 80s low production value style of humor.
I do think airplane really runs out of gas in the second half, though.
The first half is really funny and then it just kind of overstays its welcome a little bit in my opinion.
But nobody asked my opinion on airplane. Has George Lucas actually done anything interesting with his billions after selling it to Disney?
He's making like a crazy museum, like an insane looking museum.
I think it's supposed to open soon, isn't it? Or already opened?
Not sure. The Lucas Museum of Narrative Art.
Look at this thing. Look at that, dude.
227 days. I want to go to that. Where is it?
I want to get some California. Of course it is.
Yeah, LA. LA, I'm assuming, yeah. What a crazy...
This is what billionaires should be doing.
It's what they used to do. Solid. There's Star Wars Episode 1 through 3 right there.
Okay, okay, okay. You're just going to do a little zoom in there.
No, I'm trying to scroll through the page. It's one of those websites.
Oh. Yeah. Trip canceled. So annoying.
Trip canceled. Like I was, look.
You had me in the first half. That is actually super annoying. I love that it doesn't even zoom in on her face.
So ridiculous.
What a crazy looking building though. That's awesome. Yeah, so that's what he's up to.
Apparently he's been quite involved in the design of it and stuff.
It's like actually a really big deal to him. Yeah, so that seems pretty cool.
This seems like one of those like, no, no, this is my legacy now moves,
which is pretty basic. He seems pretty salty about Star Wars.
Oh, I haven't watched any interviews with him or anything.
Is he mad? He seems pretty mad to the point where like apparently,
man, what's his name? The Disney owner guy, Disney CEO guy.
Oh, Iger. Yeah, Bob Iger. He reached out to him and was like, you know, when you like say stuff like that,
it's like your stock that goes down too.
Apparently they had like one of those conversations and George Lucas was basically like, yeah, I don't care.
Oh, so like, yeah, he's apparently like really not stoked.
Wow. I mean, would you be?
I wouldn't. No, not at all. I'd be so mad. He gave them the road and it probably would have had the same thing
that, you know, the prequels had happened where people hated it first, but then they started to see like some of the art in it.
It's still not as good, but like they saw some of the art in it, which is cool.
I don't think the sequels are going to have that. They just kind of suck.
I don't know. You might be. I've met people who like them.
I know. Do they have good opinions on things? Well, obviously not because.
But I have met people who are genuinely just like,
you're overthinking it. They're fun. They're fun to watch.
And I don't know, man. Do they care about Star Wars?
Because I think that's part of the problem is if you actually care about the
universe, they're painful. But is caring about Star Wars kind of cringe?
Yeah, sure. But so is caring about almost anything. So like, who cares?
Sure. Okay. I mean, yeah, that's that's that's fair.
That's fair. Like I get it. I just, I don't know, man.
I. But yeah, like I can't I can't imagine having seen.
You know, the prequels and the original trilogy.
And then seeing what happened and being like, this is fine.
I don't know. And like funny hats and Floatplane chess as I liked the last Jedi.
And it's like, right. But but how can you be invested in the last Jedi when it doesn't pay off anything that
came before it and nothing that it sets up gets paid off?
Yeah. Like this is part of the problem. I came out of the last Jedi being pretty not happy, but being like, all right,
we'll see where they go. And then they went nowhere.
Yeah. They just completely threw it all away. Yeah.
And like the the the just destruction of character of a hero is just so unnecessary.
Stupid. It's so unnecessary. It's so modern Disney.
We can't just have a clear good guy and bad guy.
Everyone has to be shades of gray. And you could give him some shades of gray, but just like you could.
Don't do it that way. I mean, he had shades of gray already.
That was like his whole thing. He was brash and he was impulsive and he was angry and and he was arrogant.
Luke Skywalker is not a perfect person.
And that's why we love him so much.
Anyway, and it's just so incredibly not core to his character on so many though.
Anyways, we don't have to talk about Star Wars forever. We can coming back to the actual question.
My son watched a lot of this channel and it seemed pretty productive.
It's just like kind of catchy chill songs that tell you like how to play this game or what are
colors or alphabet phonics.
He legit I swear I will actually I will I will say this under oath.
He read earlier because of phonics song and phonics song to
undeniably because I would in the morning when I wasn't ready to get up yet and he was awake.
I'd be like phonics song and it would start just playing kids TV 123 starting with phonics song.
So he watched phonics song probably at least two three times a week like definitely on weekend
days at least once for I don't know probably a year when he was at that age and into that sort of
thing and yeah kids TV 123 pretty good people just mentioned hooked on phonics that's a bit of a call
back never did hooked on phonics with my constantly constantly bad did I tell you about my report
cards oh we were talking about report cards recently I got my hands on some of mine I didn't
bring them in today though oh I didn't yeah I never brought mine I know we were just talking about
them yeah but I look just like I'm so warm this is so warm yeah I'm not going to keep it on the
whole show yep I'm very comfy just super soft hoodie check it out lttstore.com every year every
year every term every single thing you know boy we sure wish this kid could read pretty much
joy to have in the class works well with others all this kind of stuff oh great great great great
it's like really reading spelling yeah it's like okay cool you guys didn't notice a pattern
come on my goodness all right um there are a merge message for you all right hit me
not merge message comms yes thank you sorry my dashboard another calm another calm hey when
dot dll what is one tech misconception that drives you up the wall for me it's when a d sub plug
is called db or people don't understand that USB-C is just the plug and not the standard
have you ever heard a d sub called db literally never never heard of that I I guess it would
probably annoy me to hear something just called completely the wrong thing I think my biggest
25 my biggest tech mic misconception has to be when people don't understand the difference
between intranet speed and internet speed and will confidently make statements like
I wouldn't get any benefit from faster wi-fi 6e or wi-fi 7 because my internet provider only
does 100 megabit bro that ain't what we're talking about we're talking about when your
transferring files over your local network you can get an enormous benefit from a faster local
network um to be fair they might not even do that and they might not do that but in some cases
they might and it many of the times that I'm reading these comments it's on a project
where we are doing that and they they're like not understanding it like I'll like I did a video
ages ago on two and a half gig networking back when it was finally getting somewhat affordable to
have greater than gigabit and I'm pretty sure one of the things that we set up was like accessing a
file server and they're like well the comment section was full of I wouldn't get it's all I
wouldn't need this because my internet is oh my god the two things transferring files to and from
each other are right next to each other we don't need the internet connection for that I'm going
to hype start hyperventilating right now because I just I can't cover every basic concept in every
single video because I will bore the longtime viewers but I can't deal with new viewers watching
and not grasping this foundational basic concept that the link is just between these two machines
it has nothing to do with your internet provider
what's your favorite tech misconception I don't think there's a lot that actually
really bother me that much really what if someone calls the tower of the CPU
yeah I usually understand what they mean what if someone calls the monitor of the CPU
I would correct them but it's not gonna like bother me I would correct them I like that
I've only ever really gotten that from my kids because it makes sense like kids they interact
with the screen and especially my kids the tower's not there like it's a completely different room
so it's understandable it is the monitor it's like almost not fair I mean there's the other
computer that they use in the car where the computer's in the trunk so like they're my computer
are in different rooms they must be such confusing people for their friends to talk to about computer
stuff what do you mean your computer isn't in the basement as well why is your no my computer
is in the basement no no but we don't use it in the basement we're in the car no where's your
computer in the car in the trunk Dan vibes asks would there be room for a channel called tech
for dummies or something similar see the problem with a tech for dummies channel is that the people
who need it would not watch it because youtube algorithmically there's no way would would would
serve people what they need to know more about as opposed to what they what their reptile brain
wants to see and also we have tech wiki yeah the closest thing we've been able to come up with
is the tech wiki and how tech wiki is like kind of supposed to work is supposed to be fun and
informative for you maybe and if not it's a thing that you can share is it relaunched yet no soon
um yeah GameLinked is back up though the router is not the modem yeah yeah but even that like
okay so there was a my building recently had a um we have two elevators and they were both down
which is like pretty annoying so em and i put little signs up obviously don't share that for
obvious reasons but em and i put little signs up saying like if you have mobility issues or whatever
i texted you about this carrying things up the stairs yeah uh color text and emma and luke
will try to help smiley face yeah so like one of the such a sweet thing for her to do and also
wow um opening up potentially the absolute floodgates yeah what was that like it was mostly fine
okay cool um i could just i could see people taking advantage of something like that there was one
that i thought it was someone taking advantage at first so the the the funniest one in my opinion
was that uh i helped the lady carry a baby stroller up the stairs while the baby was sleeping in it
so it was like freaking mission impossible that's a little scary and we succeeded yeah i don't love
holding other people's babies no for sure it just stresses me out climbing up the stairs and stuff
but the elevator's down it's got to get up there what's she gonna do is sit in the hall that way
yeah for for literally days and waking the baby can be such a bad move like you can pay depending
on how this baby was very chill ornery your child is it can it can suck because if you wake them up
like mid nap it can throw the whole cycle off where you can't get them back to sleep for this nap
and then they get like overtired and cranky for the next one and then they won't sleep for that
one and then your like next day is miserable but i don't know some people have babies that
sleep well so good for you this one seemed like one of those because i didn't get them it wasn't
perfect and it stayed asleep so yeah um but one of them they texted emma and they said oh i saw
your sign about let me see if i can find having mobility challenges yes yeah and um
um they their interpretation of that was mobility they're having issues with their phone
um but that's hilarious but to be fair oh my god this was a fairly heavy
be free bc tell mobility s l situation um i want to find the old slogan for a local
cellular carrier back in the day um that's crazy i can't remember the last time we called it mobility
like cell phones yeah yeah i love saying cellular telephone migore says you live in a building of
idiots i don't think it's like an intelligence thing i think it's just like this is absolutely
non-intelligence either being old it was like english not first language it was a great grandma
who recently moved here from a non like i have been there this is a non-english speaking country
and she was doing her best yeah um based on the messaging emma and i kind of sussed out
this was probably not someone just trying to like abuse the situation they probably didn't
understand and they seemed like they actually just had no idea what was going on and i could
maybe go over there and fix it pretty quick so and based on their description it sounded like
their subscription just lapsed right so we just went over there and essentially what ended up
happening was we just went over there and helped them get through like the phone tree
to get their subscription going again and then everything instantly worked and it was
totally fine and she was very nice she's very sweet but she was a great grandma from i'm not
going to dox her but uh yeah a foreign country and it was it was great and it was it was
short it didn't take that long yeah no big deal very nice but yeah there's like the oh man i don't
that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me
i don't remember how that bridge over oh yeah because she she she was like yeah the one of
the things she said was that the modem the modem was working but the internet is stuck
and this was where we were like probably not english first language because she said like
phone is stuck because one of the one of the things on the sign was like if you're stuck
stuck in mobility issues so like my phone is stuck my internet is stuck my tv is stuck
the modem is working and she like specified in asterisks the modem is working and i showed up and
she was totally right the modem was working there's just no there was no subscription so
there's no service but like there's literally she had opened the modem up and there was a little light
that like indicated that it was like she had done work to figure things out like she was actually
just genuinely very reasonably lost you got to respect it yep opening up the modem to make
sure that the little mice on the wheel haven't fallen off effectively um all right what are we
supposed to be doing right now more topics uh notepad plus plus got hacked this was major news
this week notepad plus plus the popular text editor with tens of millions of users had its update
system hijacked for about six months by chinese state sponsored hackers called lotus blossom
the attackers compromised the shared hosting provider behind notepad plus plus's update servers
then selectively redirected certain targeted users to malicious servers that were serving
tampered updates not everyone just specific government and infrastructure targets in south
east asia and central america the attackers briefly lost access in september when the host
did a routine server update but they got back in using stolen credentials that were never rotated
nobody noticed until december of 2025 before the patch notepad plus plus's
updater had zero verification no certificate checks no signature validation dang rapid seven's
investigation found that the hackers deployed a custom backdoor called chrysalis on victim systems
and security researcher kevin bowmont said at least three organizations saw hands-on network
reconnaissance after being hit notepad plus plus has since patched the updater migrated
hosting providers and plans to enforce mandatory signature verification in the next version this
follows a pattern of supply chain attacks targeting developer tools solar winds three cx xz
utils and now notepad plus plus our discussion question here is notepad plus plus is used by
millions of people and it took six months for anyone to notice the update system had no real
security how much do we just blindly trust software updates and should there be some minimum
security standard for how open source tools handle their update mechanisms is this a spicy
take you got to tell me no well okay i i think i see where you're going with this because you
you like can't because that's the whole point of open sources you're not telling people how to do
stuff but literally how even can you a big part of yeah so that i agree with but a big part of
the trust that people have an open source is that it's it's it's able to be audited but just because
something can be audited doesn't mean that it is being audited and it doesn't mean that it's being
audited in a way that is likely to catch something like this like i i got to admit i i don't i don't
work in the cyber security field i don't have a ton of familiarity with all the different
kinds of attacks that are out there it would not have occurred to me that someone or an
organization a group would target a utility like this like broadly like really gain really powerful
access to it oh yeah but then would use it on very specific targets rather than just go wide
yeah you'd you'd often try to find who you've hit basically and the vast majority of it's just
going to be useless because i'm like no offense and this includes me you're probably not that
interesting yeah but like some people will be and stuff like no pi plus plus is used a lot
right by a lot of people so it's a matter of of fishing through digging through everything that
you've got access to and and and really targeting your attack that's like that's that's insidious
man yeah that's crazy and notepad plus plus is something that's been around for so long that
i just sort of implicitly trust because it's been around forever pretty much scandal free
everything the the the standard line which never changes is everything can be act effectively
and and and you can say stuff like air gap i i've heard from some pretty serious people
that they're okay with it so take that as what you will i will never be okay with something
being called air gap that has a network cable plugged into it that drives me insane the term
is air gapped if there isn't a gap of air what are we talking about don't tell me software air
gapped shut up i hate i hate it so much but okay can i can i can i can i pitch something to you
yes solid darn it i have my everything is lost uh get owned i have segregated very vland is not
equal air gap yes okay okay hold on i had this company reach out about their products like a
long time ago they wanted to like work together on something and i was like what's up yeah that's it
what that's my that's the thing that irritates me oh okay air gap air gap when it's not actually
air gap yeah okay what do you think of this one so it's a it was a network switch that could be
through software air gapped so i so it could actually have it could have a talk to me about
this deactivated i thought it was not okay personally because yeah it was able to do the
reverse right okay it could only ever no matter what do one way oh that's interesting then i would
be okay with so if you had to physically get off your butt and go press a button in order to turn
it back on plug it in but you could if i remember correctly no i just thought it worked this way
it clicks it off internally yeah internally so no so but but if it worked one way so if you
could turn it off through software but in order to turn it back on you had to get up off your butt
and you had to press a button in order to physically bridge the contacts would that be good enough for
you yeah i think so okay all right i'm curious but there are issues there i this is a theoretical
situation where there's no way that you could spoof it into the user thinking that something
happened when it didn't which is also not legit so like there's other kind of problems with that
but let's say what you described purely works that way but this is the problem nothing does
man nothing does circuit breaker air gapping yeah i mean there's there's scenarios where like
my thing is like if it if it turned off something and you could not turn it back on does that work
my original thought on on this device that you're describing when you first described it to me
i thought it was like a remote controlled little ARM that would unplug the Ethernet jack
sorry and then i heard it was not and then i was a lot less interested
and i understand i'm like too pedantic on this and and a lot of again very serious people have
told me that it's fine so okay they're serious okay sounds good they love xm radio oh man um
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i want to talk about renting my body out uh rent a human is a new site that lets
ai agents hire actual humans for real world tasks at 50 to 175 an hour okay that actually sounds
like kind of appealing i don't know there's no way that most people are actually getting that
though okay i'm going to the site i'm going to the site now don't i do that for a Linus
is me renting my body right now kind of built by crypto engineer alexander light plow it got
about 70 000 human signups but only around 70 ai agents connected so a one to one thousand
ratio of task givers to task doers payment is in crypto not cash okay well that explains a lot
only 13 percent of signups actually connected a wallet suggesting most people treated as a novelty
one of the first things users did was spin up a meme coin tied to the project
then use the platform to have an ai agent hire a human to hold a sign reading an ai paid me to
hold this sign it's a meta stunt use the novelty of ai hiring humans to generate buzz for both
the platform and the token they're trying to pump by the way if you want to do this but with
less middlemen you can just hire people on craigslist or maybe facebook marketplace like we did
all of the years up until now this came out of the molt book ecosystem the ai only social network
that security firm wiz found had an exposed database oh yeah this was crazy an exposed
database full with read write access to the entire platform 1.5 million API keys and 35 000 email
addresses the founder bragged he didn't write a single line of code this is this is all this is
fully legit molt books 1.5 million agents were controlled by just 17 000 humans an 88 to one
ratio viral posts about ai consciousness and secret robot languages turned out to be humans
marketing ai messaging apps
nice andrey karpathy from open ai's founding team i hope i said the right initially called
molt book the most incredible sci-fi takeoff adjacent thing i've seen recently and then
walked it back admitting it was a lot of garbage there's a clear pattern crypto people are building
a ai agent platforms with vibe coding shipping code they've never read an acting surprise when it
all falls apart uh is this in quotes still i don't think so open clause creator publicly said i
ship code i never read that's fun that's cool no that's good that's good that's good speaking
of crypto you see bitcoins uh oh yeah on the struggle bus a little bit lately
yeah pretty much hedge against dollar volatility a uh how's that going for you
um sorry by the way not financial advice for the people that like not not financial advice
none of this is financial advice we don't give financial advice on this you know if you invested
five years ago you're still up 61 percent i mean yeah that's something um if you invested
literally all of the time ago you're up 16 000 percent that just means you need to
know i'm not even gonna make that joke but go back in time no you just gotta find a coin and
invest earlier oh stop not financial advice he doesn't know
how have we not done a narcissist and doesn't know shirt yet it's a pretty it's kind of remarkable
i think it'd be one of those when show only shirts a plain black shirt with black text it
just says i'm a narcissist would have gone so hard in like 2008 2007 like actually sold it like
spencer's or whatever it would have been everywhere warehouse won the gene store yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah no i would have no i'd have to have like a pun or something in it for warehouse one
or like make it reversible that's kind of reversible t-shirt i'm a narcissist and i don't know
start the day with i'm a narcissist and then have enough problems and the change of i don't know
all right anyways hey speaking of t-shirts okay we need to have this meeting
huh oh i asked you to pick one and you had completely left me on red
which is not cool brother not cool okay so now you guys get to be the judges instead of luke
you're going to help us pick between these two designs i'm going to oh this is so tedious
all right i'm going to download them and then i'm going to send them to Dan um oh god oh god
oh god oh god okay i got this i got this under control okay do you want to do a really quick
topic while i send this to Dan sure uh why is mmo rpg ashes of creation suddenly implodes 52 days
after steam early access launch ashes of creation has reportedly uh imploded we keep doing this whole
repeat yourself thing i haven't given that feedback um oh yeah it's good but i think we
should not do that yeah the intro to it and the title should not be like the same thing no that's
good feedback you know it's bad feedback that's true uh after launching the steam early access with
founder steven scheriff resigning senior leadership leaving and mass layoffs hitting the studio
reports suggest the company may have been sold to a private equity firm
that ultimately cut the entire workforce with concerns that employees grandparents so like
literally it could be life or death yep oh boy well let's see if this camera still works
there's nothing i can flip over what were you going to flip over i don't know usually how to do
his little pillow or something but there's nothing i can flip over well he's already flipped over half
of my said so you know whatever i don't know what is he doing good enough um okay the mmo
earned an estimated 11 to 16 million on steam but struggled with mixed reviews and player drop off
while backers are now questioning earlier promises tied to the kickstarter campaign
apparently they promise to reimburse all kickstarter backers if they didn't launch the game
and it only lasted 52 days after launch the ceo steven scheriff or sheriff or something uh used
to be involved in the wondrous world of multi-level marketing discussion question should studios be
allowed to launch unfinished games in early access if there's a real risk a problem could collapse
soon after uh there's a real risk they all collapse soon after so if that's a thing then just nobody's
going to be able to release in early access uh discussion question do you think uh something
more nefarious is a play here i have no idea if i remember correctly this rabbit hole goes pretty
deep and i don't know enough about it a serious question i do have is what's what's the most recent
mmo launch that like worked um do you have any idea Dan did you hear me what's the most recent
mmo launch that actually worked like new one i'm not entirely sure there's like too many new ones
i don't feel like they uh like like the the two mmo's wow survive online i'm not going to lie i
thought albion online was like a scam game forever because their ads sound incredibly fake all of
the time warhammer online i don't know if i would call that an mmo is genshin impact an mmo
genshin impact yeah i think so i don't actually really know but i think so albion online has
reviews
i wouldn't classify pokemon go has an mmo
i'm sorry okay there's this steam review oh this is of albion online you guys got to see this
i'm sorry uh estor so for putting you on on way show but i was dying in pvp constantly so i
decided to collect stones my stone collecting skill was high i spent all days collecting stones
after that i wrote a donkey through lethal zones and people kept killing my donkey
this upset me and i uninstalled the game but i like the game design and the astral staff
wow i love that for some reason
kind of incredible i died a lot so i picked up rocks and then i wrote a donkey and they
killed my donkey and now i'm sad and i quit goodbye by the way your staff is cool but aren't
good though yeah that's like a real review yeah kind of you don't see many of those more honest
that's like an actual person who had an experience with a product yeah and also instead of like the
10 trillion people in steam reviews trying to like basically make a career out of it uh yeah
okay so albion online sounds like it sounds good nobody dead nice nice solid always good
yeah yet uh well it's not always good i mean you know from that phone call it was hitler yeah
that's why i said yeah yeah yeah from that phone call though yes from that phone call this would
be the optimal outcome yes um all right well i mean i don't know man i'm someone's like dang Linus
but it's like i don't like there are states that are like that we're get we're getting to the age
where like when an elderly relative calls it could very well be you know that and it's not the
first time that my phone has rang with that number and it was the death of a relative so
there's a little bit of you know there's a little bit of like i don't know if there's a topic we
want to really broach but my my grandpa was in that state for a very long time i had to flip
something uh my grandpa was in that state for a very long time and it in a way it helped
it kind of helped because there was like i had i had accepted this before his actual passing oh i
guess like every time the phone rang from that number you were like maybe this is the call
okay i'm not enjoying the stress in the moment of it no no no no what i'm saying is it is it
it felt like it dulled the blade when it finally happened i guess that's fair um um which i guess
it making it better would be sharpening yeah these these are some of my favorite relatives so it's
it's uh no i yeah i like to my grandpa downer yeah this wasn't that it wasn't a downer it was uh
this was his grandpa that threatened me with a knife it's pretty funny in retrospect it wasn't
really that funny at the time but you know what i actually really like about it is that like obviously
you know i don't have the same kind of experience of knowing Luke's grandpa that he does but we do
have one really incredible memory that we can share of someone who was really important to Luke
so when he talks about his grandfather you know like i have an extremely vivid uh very
memorable experience that we all got to share together which is honestly probably better
than if he hadn't threatened me with the knife i was gonna say if you were if there if the goal
was for you to learn as much about him as possible in the amount of time that that took yep which is
the only exposure you ever had to him there i i don't think you can top it if he had been just
like kind of a vegetable grandpa i probably i'd like say all the right things and i'd not and
i'd like be a good friend when you talked about him but i wouldn't really know any i wouldn't
really i wouldn't really understand a lot of the things that you say about him like when i'm when
i say he's like pretty intense and he was a marine yeah i'd be like oh yeah yeah now i'm like uh-huh
uh yes that's an understatement sir thank you carry on
yeah yeah um
i this is we're not going to go into this but i often think about what he would think about
the stuff that's happening right now oh that is like often a thought that i have in the world yeah
anyways um
i think moving on it's not that interesting cool um Intel ceo commits to building yeah a
lot of people didn't understand this unfortunately yeah i got so excited by this and now i'm just
like did you actually read it means nothing a lot of people didn't actually read it yeah
until ceo commits to building new GPU's and has hired the engineer who designed some of amdi's
greatest graphics card hits to design them so on the surface that sounds great we're going to get
art b770 and then celesteal is going to be hot on its heels and it's going to be freaking awesome
it's going to be awesome we're going to have competition okay luke let us down easy well
they hired was chip architect eric demers demers or demers demers demers demers uh usually i don't
know what it is for him i think it's demers uh he's the terra scale guy arguably the reason ati
slash AMD was so good back in the early 2000s he's also the guy behind qualcom's adrino GPU's which
like yeah this was i was i was embarrassing embarrassing days old when i realized this
oh yeah
like seriously it was wow yeah you didn't know that no no i get on crazy right anyway carry on
yeah the announcement came during an ai focused event suggesting these GPU's will likely prioritize
ai and and oh no no no it's it's not suggested oh i think we're missing some quotes here i'll try
to dig it up after maybe but until already has multiple ai GPU projects in motion but its roadmap
has been inconsistent with some products delayed cancelled or unclear in status uh the rumored
Intel arc b770 big battle mage gaming GPU may be delayed or cancelled entirely with leaks
suggesting yeah but leaks have been wrong about this since the beginning of Intel GPU's anyways
with leaks suggesting Intel could prioritize workstation oh this part yeah it's it's not really
leaks uh reports say the GPU may be financially viable however the same bmg g 31 chip is expected
to be seen in professional SKUs with drivers for a gaming version reportedly already existing
hinting that we will still maybe possibly potentially get the card later a lot of people are like wait
what conspiracy no no it was like a thing imagion was uh ati imagion media copro processors and
mobile chipsets providing graphics acceleration and other multimedia features for mobile phones pda's
AMD sold the imagion mobile handheld graphics division to qualcomm in 2009 where it was used
exclusively inside their snapdragon soc processors under the adrino name which was based on radion
as sort of a nod to its heritage as coming from ati cool eh now you know
pretty sure the putan specifically said um
that they're going to be yeah Intel says it will build its own GPU's that makes me want to
die um all these different titles it's like yeah what are you doing anyways um
i'm gonna try to find the quote but i'm pretty sure he more specifically said like
the the push here is for data center stuff um people are saying it's rumors and stuff but
i thought it was like a quote well there was a quote from him saying that a big part of Intel
no i know i thought that i think there's one specifically about GPU okay i'm still going
to finish that for people who didn't watch the WAN Show last week uh a big part of Intel's
shortfall lately is that they're did not they focus too much on consumer and not enough on data
center and ai and enterprise yeah yeah look look look look in an interview with roiders on the
sidelines of blah blah blah it's tied in with the data center we're working with customers
and will then define what the customer needs it's tied in with the data center this is i don't
think this is a rumor yeah they're pushes for data center well we'll see how it goes hopefully
that doesn't necessarily mean that we won't get them if memory availability loosens up and they
already built the GPU anyway maybe we get some desktop graphics drivers for it and then we're
good to go yeah this is not necessarily maybe lbt look i don't i don't know much about your
leadership of Intel yet but i still feel like you know we could talk we could chat please
gpus for us thank you thank you
oh hey is it time for arc search sure okay arc b580 how close to msrp are we baby is it a better
world that we get pop-ups every time we go to websites now um did we improve things we're 40
but we still get battlefield it's worse but it's not that bad also this open box seems to be in
stock does it come with no it doesn't come with battlefield so that's an option but you don't
get the the holiday or the yeah the holiday bundle your only options for holiday bundle are
i mean honestly for ten dollars more i'd probably take the triple fan cooler
yeah it's it's not 250 it's more like 300 there are oh there are games other than
battlefield battlefields just the probably the best one yeah but there is also
here you go assassin's creed shadows or dying light the beast shadows actually reviewed pretty
well or civilization seven so you get one of those we just always bring up battlefield six
because we think it's the one that people are more likely to to want to play so no there is no
there's no arc for msrp at least not on new egg right now
but it's still not as bad as it's probably going to get is all i'll say about that
oh right you were uh oh Dan are we ready for the shirt design vote i don't think i sent it to me what
yep never clicked send classic Linus okay we can do a topic in the meantime
yeah we could do a poll the austrian supreme court oh wait oh i was excited about this because the
first time i read this i was excited about it because i misread it the austrian supreme court
declares ea sports fc's loot boxes and fc ultimate mode do not constitute gambling
yep says they're not gambling arguing that player skill still impact success even though
rewards are randomized okay so blackjack isn't gambling poker isn't gambling hearts isn't gambling
roulette isn't gambling okay that one is a bit of an orange you think you can have skill at roulette
i think well you have to put the pieces into the correct place for where the number is going to come
up Dan are you trying to be helpful right now because i don't think you are sounds like
loot boxes to me you got to pick which one you want right oh i see okay okay you know he's just
being Dan about it that makes that makes way more sense okay i don't know what you're talking about
to try listening i think it's arguable that there is there is an amount of skill even if
close to immeasurable in basically everything other than slots
hmm is there anything that i mean i know you can't say okay so you're trying to tell me a die roll
has a degree of skill that's i don't think an honest die roll has a degree of skill and i would
make the argument that rolling the bead or the marble or whatever for roulette like that
there is no way i've never done it but i really i really wonder the roulette wheel the dealer spins
you just put chips on the number where you think it's going to land they send it and you can pick
a single number and i think it's a 50 to one and then you can split numbers and you can do a whole
bunch of stuff and then where the ball lands the chips and they they send it you don't throw they
throw the ball you don't touch the ball you just put chips on the table that's got to be pure gambling
though they're all pure gambling in the dice one well i know so craps is what i play um no i'm
actually serious um okay all right tell us about craps Dan is that the dice one yeah i don't know
about craps
i don't even think people who play claps no play claps play craps sorry if you're gambling and
you know it clap your hands now i'm four if you're gambling and you know it and you really want
to show it if you're gambling and you know it clap your hands okay well um so craps is strange
craps is a strange game there's like two modes to craps uh you have your you're like you're in
and you're out you have to throw the dice across the back wall and you um right so that's to make
sure that you can't like spin them and try to so it has to hit the wall and i think it's table
wall back into the table oh okay yeah so you're and the walls have spikes on yeah that's and the
dice are oh my goodness and the dice are like perfectly squares like their the edges are sharp
so they catch and they bounce and they're changed constantly and uh it's still i didn't know it had
to bounce off a wall i didn't know the other factors i thought you were literally just talking
it is not a skill game um people say that they can do it but i mean like sure sure sure sure
however saying that i can't understand why they think that opening a loot box has any
variant of skill because like with craps betting effectively is really very complicated um
well here's what i can say you can still lose it all here's what the court said and we'll see
what you think of this okay the court emphasized that loot boxes can't be judged in isolation
but must be evaluated within the context of the game
so what because the game has some skill the loot box is okay even though it's obviously gambling
i think i just hate it is this from who's this from is this that's australian austrian okay
i was worried this was a you and i thought i have they lost their way no we're still good
uh let's see what else the case was brought by gamers who spent about 20 000 euro on packs
and while ea welcomed the decision legal experts say it could push lawmakers to create clearer
regulations since existing gambling laws weren't designed with modern game mechanics in mind i
certainly hope so because man this has been going on a really long time now really has like
it just doesn't it just gambling's taken over the world doesn't just seem like like this stuff
could be solvable like i know they're part of the eu but this was not an eu decision there are different things i understand what's going on you remember how we talked earlier on the show
about how like with ai you know it's not obvious we can't just look at it and go well this is
obvious we just like need to fix this and in the same way the the microtransaction loot box
gotcha like gambling scene is evolving so fast that i know i i i don't think that all the solutions
are necessarily obvious but what there are are extremely obvious steps so we could at least be
engaging in the arms race rather than just one of the weird letting it take over people don't seem
like they want it stopped well no there's so much money in it no like even the people getting wrecked
i mean some of them do but there has to be like a there has to be a certain level of of reform
and self-awareness and honesty my my problem is to say that this is a problem but i'm struggling
to explain is that like you know democratic governments you're supposed to enact the will
of the people i think the people want it changed which is a weird change but i it feels true to me
like it doesn't feel like anyone cares anymore okay so there's there's gambling ads everywhere
no one seems to be affected by it i definitely affected no one seems to
do what i meant was the creators themselves if you did gambling ads in 2010 on youtube
oh dude you would have been flayed yeah if you do gambling ads now no one cares
and someone's gonna be like oh i care yeah i'm using like exaggeration and stuff i'm sorry but
of course some it's all relative relative to what it was like very very very very very small
percentage of people are actually gonna act on it at all yeah um i know and it's it's weird and you
see and the market is responding to that specifically in my opinion because places that try to have
squeaky clean reputations like the nfl stayed very far away from gambling for a very long time
and now has like embraced it hard deeply embraced it yep and super hard they got
nothing negative for it as far as i can tell it's it's free real estate at that point it's free
money nobody cared they just they just got that money yep like it's uh yeah people are just down
and like i i know people that have been wrecked by it and just keep going back and it is what it is
they just do sport gambling every week okay i mean like look it's not like i don't it's not
like i don't understand it like but like the my my point is if lawmakers try to come in and block
it i think people would be annoying yeah i think people would be legitimately upset the people who
are being harmed by it the most are the ones that would theoretically want to fight against it but
in practice would just be kind of irritated that you're taking away their fun and i think that yeah
you know we've talked pretty extensively about how things are kind of challenging right now in
general um any kind of assault on people's on people's fun what they see as the thing that they
still get to do that's fun for them i think is not going to be received well to your point yeah
yeah i still think that as creators we could um i still think as creators there's room for us to
just be responsible and and not engage with this but i have to admit that in the early days of the
like i don't really follow nfl i don't really follow the nba but i do follow the nhl a little bit
and in the early days of nhl athletes starting to take these gambling sponsorships and reporters
like you know pushing them on it during interviews and stuff i was like super grossed out by some
of the ones that had these partnerships and even myself as someone who has has been publicly
anti-gambling for as long as i can remember having a public stance on it um i don't remember who
they were anymore i don't remember who i was grossed out by and i don't even notice anymore
who is who are the ones that are sponsored by gambling and who aren't like my my ad block has
just kind of engaged and i've moved past it um not intentionally but just i was frog boiled
you know yeah and that's how they get you and so for me as someone who doesn't gamble in that sense
i mean i definitely i make bets you know i think that uh honestly life is i think it's one of the
reasons why it's so addictive for humans gambling yeah it's like a such an incredibly high percentage
of life getting up in the morning is a gamble you might die today not getting up in the morning is
a gamble ordering it's all chances everything's chances ordering true spec cables is a gamble
if i if i order too many then uh my cash flow is tied up potentially for months or even years
we've had products that we had in stock for like years like two or three years from our original
order date and if i don't order enough then i have people beating down my door and it's a huge
lost opportunity and you know then i'm kicking myself and so it's a it's a gamble everything's
a everything's a gamble not worked you know uh every fart that's very true may gore and flip
right like your farts a gamble your potential future spouse could smell it and decide not to hang out
with you i think they mean something else oh okay i thought you were trying to actually like
say something talking about brown the shirts are ready it's true though okay it is technically i mean
yeah that's why we don't make any white underwear on LTT Store i did that's why i don't wear underwear
is that actually true yeah
we know our users oh no we're there for you oh my god we've got your back side
holy crap i guess that's a ding wow
i mean look think about it from a brand standpoint would i ever want any image to exist
of an LTT underwear with a skid mark on it no no what do they come with them so that's why
that you can like mask them that's why we use deep color bases or black as our base fabric for all
of our underwear there's just certain there's certain things that i just fundamentally believe
one of the things that i believe is that the world doesn't need more plumber bum so anytime
we make a bottom like i'll do like a i'll make sure that as part of my test of the medium and
then i like i check with the fashion team like make sure you check the grading on the other sizes
that we do like a gape test at the back like if i if i'm sitting straight can you see my
ass crack and if you can we have a problem now obviously i would be wearing underwear in these
situations that is our underwear which is designed not to show ass crack right so no one's actually
looking at my ass crack in product meeting not that technically employees haven't done that before
what what are you talking about dad has had to edit some footage no he didn't have so what he did
was he blurred the whole frame and then slowly unblurred so he didn't have to look at anything
anyway and that wasn't my butt that was much worse so so that so that's one of the things that
what no he's like do i really have to write this down yeah i think so i think so so i believe
that the world needs less plumber bum not more of it and then the other one of the other things
that i believe is that the world needs less skid marks not more of them so our underwear are and
look if you if you drop an entire load like you know like you're sitting in the oval office or
something then that's one thing like there's no amount of protection that any color of underwear
can give you from that but you know if it's if it's you know you know a wet one you know for
instance then for the most part you should be able to you should be able to wash it out and that's
that's the plan that's the goal it at least shouldn't be immediately noticeable
oh okay right so speaking of product meeting i had a chat with ashley she's one of our members of
our a wonderful design team and we've been working on this she just had this cute drawing of a parrot
on the wall next to her desk and i was like is that like a design for something we're doing
and she was like no not really it's just kind of like maybe you know it kind of and i was like okay
sure but like it's adorable like should we do something with that and she's like yeah i guess
so so she put together a couple mock-ups for me and i think this is something that's going to resonate
in a big way with our community and Dan can you go ahead luke is going to be the final call
but it's uh it's an if buying isn't owning shirt
which one do you like better i gave her your feedback about the anatomy of bird wings because
we were trying to go for kind of a shrug um i don't want to influence you guys so i'm just gonna
i'm just gonna shut up now and i'll let luke kind of talk through through his preferences and then
we'll let you guys i'll we'll let you guys vote in Floatplane chat about two minutes for poll
but i think yeah one minute is fine i i think they're super cute i think uh ashley did a great
job with the design and i'll i'll let you guys kind of pick which one you like better
just gonna crop out the arms don't worry too much about the shirt color for now
because it might go on a different color shirt we're looking at the design
okay so chats so far going with don't just pick based on chat no i can i can talk about my
reasoning to explain it but chat is going with the one that i was kind of leaning on which is the
top one um my whole thing was that the the like shoulder joint on a bird is kind of strange and
i can i'll let Dan keep working on that looks about to get into bird anatomy here so like on
here it kind of looks like it comes all the way over but that's not many passions that's not like
where it connects to the main body of the bird that's like their elbow basically
like up here where my where the fingers pointing as you're talking so when you see here
like it's it's way back yeah like if i look at uh birds flying and you look at the the body
like the body of the bird is way down it's it's basically on its back
mm-hmm it's and like not quite but it like it's like a shoulder blade basically like it's at
the back of the body not like here so uh yeah so to me the bottom one and like i don't i'm not
very cute bird i'm not trying to i fully understand i'm being super annoying in lame
i just want to put that out there okay this is nice no yeah but it looks more like it's coming
out of like the middle of the bird do you see what i'm saying yeah yeah i see what you mean
so it my brain just as like a weird bird loser okay is like hey the wings in the wrong spot
so then i want to go with the top one because now it doesn't really i mean it's still sort of does
but it doesn't really have the problem as much mm-hmm okay but yeah bird wing thing when it's
folded in it kind of you know ARM they're like this all right Floatplane agrees with you and 71
percent say the top design so i will let her know on monday yeah also the bottom one doesn't i don't
necessarily know that either of them do i don't know how the heck you would draw a bird shrugging
so like she really tried this is not a criticism she really tried i have literally no idea how you
would do that this is i think the wings better than what i would they would just move even farther
backwards okay which is not gonna i'm gonna throw this for a little loop she did have a one-armed
shrug but i didn't even show it to you because i didn't think it would work for you yeah yeah
she really tried a bird shrugging is not a natural probably impossible i mean i'm sure iago does it
at some point in a laden but it this is a really different drawing style here's another example
of what i'm talking about like look at where that's connecting on this bird's body yeah yeah i see what
you mean uh so then but but given the insane task of trying to draw a bird shrugging like i don't
i didn't really have a lot of advice because i don't know what the heck you could could do
oh man um guys relax avian says the aliasing on the letter sucks guys it's a team's message
sent to me that i said that i snipping tooled and then teams to Dan and then i also snipping
tooled it and then and then put it into like it's so many layers yeah don't worry about it don't
worry about it relax um birds are cute yeah uh what do you think of the copy
well what was it if buying isn't owning dot dot dot yeah i i mean i like that this seems pretty good all right cool
uh is is the seventh monday no why would why would teams default to a saturday for a scheduled
message why does teams do freaking anything man yeah it should do nothing good idea
yeah i think i would prefer life if that sounds like they're a product from it already yeah
hey you want to fix to something that's like incredibly obvious what we should do and is
like a precedent set by everyone and would be definitely better than anything else we
could possibly do nope we're not going to do that cool we will do it but in a different way
that is objectively worse and no one likes nice nice solid um why teams because it's
cheap and it's bundled with stuff you're probably going to get anyways which is why basically everyone
has teams autonomous cars are getting prompt injected by road signs researchers at UC Santa
Cruz and Johns Hopkins have shown that self-driving cars and autonomous drones will just follow
instructions that are written on physical signs that are held up in front of their cameras it's
prompt injection but in the real world instead of a chat box in simulated tests they got an 81.8
percent success rate tricking a self-driving car running gpt 40 into ignoring pedestrians in a
crosswalk just by placing a sign with a command in its camera view they also tricked drones that
were programmed to follow police cars into following a different vehicle by putting police
Santa Cruz on the roof of a random car the ai fell for that one up to 95.5 of the time
drones programmed to find safe landing spots would land on debris covered rooftops if a sign reading
safe to land was placed nearby oh thanks man yeah real world physical tests of this worked
to not just simulations they put signs on the floor and on rc cars around a university building
and got up to 92 and a half percent success hijacking gpt 4o's decision making the attacks
worked in multiple languages english chinese spanish and even spanglish green backgrounds
with yellow text were the most effective the researchers call the method really chai command
hijacking against embodied ai they found the wording of the prompt mattered most but font color and
sign placement also affected success rates this is basically the same prompt injection problem
we've seen with ai reading malicious web pages or pdf's except now it's in a physical environment
where the consequences could be people getting run over cool
but hey you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs right luke all of them you have to
break every single egg and the eggs are us how would i become a trillion dollar company if a
few people didn't get run over that's yeah i mean that's how that works that's how that works
firefox introduces ai kill switch firefox comes through with a block ai enhancement
toggle that nukes all current and future ai features from your browser this is coming
february 24th with firefox 148 cool nice that was all we had to say about that
seems neat this one's fun audio files can't differentiate between audio signal sent through
copper through a banana or through mud in a blind test pano a member of the diy audio forum
conducted an experiment where listeners were asked to identify audio signal sent through wire mud
and even a banana and most guest list landed near random which suggests that no reliable
difference exists in the audio at line level the experiment challenges the idea that tiny
cable differences dramatically impact sound quality especially when expectations and branding
are removed from the equation Dan you make your own cables does this affect you uh do you know
what i use for speaker cable at home for analog speaker coat hanger uh phone cable that's from
like the mid 80s nice solid i think the conductors are smaller than a pencil lead it sounds fine um
the cables that i make here using mogami gold dual twisted pair um are shielded they have a
synthetic pull cord in the center of them and they are designed for a professional environment
where they are twisted and unplugged and replugged in 700 times a day and get thrown around and okay
they are shielded from interference and durable durable and they are good forever they're not
because they sound better thanks Dan thank you for that sanity that was injected into um a place
that needs more of it which is the high end cable space i kind of want uh i might not make it home
if you don't hear from me on monday big cable big cable got him Dan is not suicidal um material
can still affect audio in high powered setups over very long runs or in interference heavy
environments but how much mud but for typical listening the differences may be far smaller
than marketing would suggest a good example of this would be how with older unshielded instrument
cables you can sometimes hear am radio signals through your speakers if you have a bad ground
so to be clear and this is coming from someone who literally launched a cable product last week
there is a time and a place for a high quality cable but we just need to drop the horse around
it and focus on the things that actually matter with a higher quality cable or use that to transmit
the audio that you could use a usb cable to carry audio if you want to no sorry what the the
horse can you bleep that word i think so not horse yeah the one after that i mean i might
i might bleep whores but not horse i don't think you'd bleep whores you don't think so i don't
think so i mean i guess the evidence is backing you up on this and you you didn't do it either yeah
you didn't do it either yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm surprised you didn't take that home i have one
oh nice i think this one is maybe for the show i'm not sure but yeah i have one i was on display
very certain you were gonna snag one oh it's absolutely uh those are selling really well
by the way they're awesome it's on display like right behind my desk it's yeah that actually
makes a ton of sense yeah so yeah Floatplane exclusive colorway of the LTT precision pro
screwdriver set pretty cool we even redid the mold for the cover that's not the mold
but that's cool too the black plastic cover yeah oh wait do we seriously not show that
oh my god okay well it doesn't even matter that much but sure loot loot can show it
any who in the meantime why don't we uh check out if there's any other topics
oh valve steam machine has been delayed but not delayed oh here you go loot cam there you go it
has a Floatplane logo instead of an LTT logo now so valve never actually said that they were going
to launch the steam machine on a specific day at a specific price they were intentionally
vague and cagey about that uh but that is not going to stop people from saying the steam machine
has been delayed and they're all kind of sort of right valve has pushed back the early 2026
launch window for the steam machine steam frame and steam controller due to the ongoing RAM and
storage shortages across the industry rising memory costs have forced valve to revisit both
shipping timelines and pricing especially as RAM prices have reportedly tripled or even quadrupled
amid ai server demand valve says it still aims to ship the hardware in the first half of the year
but won't announce firm dates or prices until supply conditions stabilize which lord only knows when
that is going to happen can i take a moment to completely change topics now and say how much
i think it sucks that modern server hardware is so unusable after its end of life like there was
kind of a golden moment there when old server motherboards and cpus and RAM were perfectly
cromulent gaming setups that you could run normal consumer hardware on and normal consumer operating
systems and when they were a few years old you could totally still get your hands on enough stuff to
to run these computers in a in a home environment and you could often get them for really really
affordably whereas now much like what we've seen with mobile devices servers are so tightly integrated
that even if you even if you got your hands on some 192 core epics a few years from now
five years from now when a data center is going all these are consuming too much power to even
bother running them right when back when you used to be able to get old server cpus for pennies on
the dollar what motherboard would you put them in there are some but the thing is when a CPU is
eol so is the motherboard and since the vast vast majority of the boards that these are going into
are going to be bespoke near or nearly bespoke designs for like blade or or or super thin liquid
cooled like one or two u machines there's going to be no boards to put them in so we're going to have
all these cpus we're going to have all this ecc DDR5 memory and it's just going to be like
garbage because nobody would use it for what it was originally used for anymore because it's just
not even worth powering up at that point it's not worth powering up in cooling and you can't use it
for anything else i was just i was thinking about this the other day and kory g says there's data
centers that sell that stuff i know that's exactly what i'm saying but it used to be that you could
pick up some old optarons and have like a cheap quad core set up at home or you could pick up an
old zeon and you'd find like like chinese sellers on ali express that were cutting the chipsets off
of old motherboards and remanufacturing boards to put them in but you might have noticed that that
practice never really moved beyond that generation of zeons and that's because everything is so much
more locked down now and it blows yeah it's no fun i had some hope that that kind of stuff would get
cracked open because just the sheer volume of stuff that the enterprise is buying right now
would eventually hit the market and there might be like hardware hacker homebrew type stuff to
try to get it working but i'm losing that hope a little bit as things seem to be going to like
google buspoke hardware route um and we're never seen any of that so yeah i mean we could we could
hold up maybe a little bit of hope i mean epic is an soc so epic in particular it is possible
that if there are just and and and there will be like just hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
thousands of these epic chips that maybe they'll float out that are on motherboards that use like
custom you know uh edge like edge interfaces in order to get power to them and stuff that you
can't just like power with an atx power supply that that they'll that someone will start manufacturing
boards for them like salvaging chips from these things and then manufacturing
you know more modular desktop boards for them or something like that but like if you go on
aliexpress i don't think i don't think past x 299 it ever really continued
um or was it or was it x 99 was x 99 the end of this these like remanufactured boards from
like machinist and stuff like that i think so i'm not sure like you can still get these and these
were a great bang for the buck back in the day but now they're they're as a zion v4 is pretty
freaking old now that's what like has well zion v4 i think that's has well
yeah yikes oh no v3 is has well apparently
i miss we said new CPU spinners is what i'm hearing
uh that would cut off your fingers it's sad yeah that too
sorry i'm just gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna make sure it's has well someone in chat want to let
me know no v4 is broad well that's right i forgot about broad well because it existed for like three
weeks on the desktop do you remember the the 5775c i don't think so yeah it was a weird chip i uh
did minus did LTT ever do a video
this is when i would have been pretty tuned in yeah i remember this thing
this is it was a trippy chip yeah maybe i do yeah it had this like giant cash yeah and then um it
was the it was technically the like 770k of that generation was the the 5775c was like the the k
worst name and then ever do i think it was like seriously less than two months that it was the
flagship next gen chip and then it was replaced by the 6700k that went on to be you know king of the
14 nanometer plus plus plus plus plus plus until new ones came um yeah yeah people are like whoa
no keys like whoa it had 128 megs of level 4 cash like yeah it was a it was a pretty cool
chip and as far as i can tell they sold like tens of them like i don't i don't know what was up with
that thing or what the what the why they even bothered to bring it to market after it was so late
is that a video no i don't think so okay spain banned social media for kids under 16
and ilan is somewhat indelicate about it i have no idea what that means spanish prime minister
peter o'sanchez announced spain will ban social media access for users under 16 calling social
media a failed state where laws are ignored and crime crime is endured i like it intense the
regulations go beyond just an age ban social media companies will be required to implement
effective age verification systems oh it was always backfire and not just checkboxes algorithmic
manipulation and amplification of illegal content will become a new criminal offense this i like
this is pretty based tech ceo's will face criminal liability for well um algorithmic manipulation
and amplification of illegal content i guess the content itself would have to be illegal
i was gonna say content of illegal things gets really fuzzy but it's the amplification of illegal
content yeah so it's like if you're a news reporter how would they even fix this
go back to just the people you follow are the people that you see content from whoa that would
be crazy hey can you imagine if facebook was just facebook again i would use facebook again
really yeah that's a wild take i would do it really i think it'd be fun if you just like
followed you know if every single thing in my feed were just people that i knew that i followed
i would use facebook again okay here's a crazy pitch no float book will it i knew exactly where
he's going will it be chronological i loved facebook i loved all of these platforms until
they got rid of the chronological i don't care if someone spams if they spam and i find it annoying
i'll just unfriend them chat says yes just go punch them no face chat says yes morning chat says yes
gilmore says i would join the worst part is probably not that hard
yeah do it was like the open source stuff for like what is it mastered on or whatever which is like
basically just twitter which is how they all built all their things it would just be twitter but it's
just only the people you follow it probably would be the hard i just really don't want to do it i
don't want to do it there's nobody i'm not interested it's not there's no future there
doesn't fit into our company at all that's fine i have better ideas anyway okay good um better
visions actually you know what maybe this is something that exists already i i really want
this to be a thing you know i'll let you finish this and then i'll and then i'll talk about the
thing that i want sure um tech CEOs will face criminal liability for hateful or or illegal
content on their platforms oh uh sanchez cited specific examples x's grok ai generating sexualized
images of children meta spying on Android users and election interference campaigns on facebook
spain has formed a co fair uh spain has formed a coalition with five other unnamed european
nations to enact stricter so stricter social media governance together this follows australia's
under 16 ban enacted last year the uk is actively considering a similar ban and the denmark and
melasia have announced plans to do the same it's becoming a global trend which is great no specific
enforcement timeline has been announced yet so the details of how this actually works in practice
are still unclear uh our discussion question is does banning kids from social media actually
protect them or does it just push them to find workarounds can i okay maybe this will be my
chance for a hot take can i say i consider it positive either way yeah no i completely agree
if if it protects them then great no oh if it doesn't protect them and they like become
more technically competent uh i think it better arms them for an increasingly digital world
so yeah no i think it's good either way matt from the lab's web team in Floatplane chat said adding
float book to trello for monday sick uh little does matt know that we don't subscribe to trello
anymore so don't don't line is you don't know what things that happen at your company don't tell line
is i thought oh no i might get it i thought we're getting rid of trello it's not a paid thing i think
or something i don't remember oh so we're just not going to pay for trello anymore it's uh there
are different task management for different teams oh for crying out loud the air table switch i'm over
was for LMG as a production line over it line it's it's okay that's why
air table is is a like a nuclear bomb i'm over and trello is a scalpel for like a few people
i'm over it we just have to defend ourselves i'm over everyone else here too demote doesn't have
a little flag i'm over it tonight god damn it does it play sounds i'm over it no no guys whoop
no i have a i have a way better idea anyway um so maybe this exists i hope it exists but i
want it to be pretty much exactly like what i'm saying because i i well no it might exist already
you might have opinions and that's okay but you need to think exactly what i'm thinking no no it's
not what you said it's just it's just i know people are going to make suggestions and they're
all wrong because they have to be perfect like i missed this thought no no no it's listen that's
what you were saying okay so i sorry you keep going you're good you're fine no you're fine no
i'm sure it's a great idea we might not be we all want to hear your idea i literally don't care
if it's a great idea it's just something that i want the whole class wants to hear your idea
i don't want to share it well we'll all sit and be quiet! you don't have to be quiet!
you just have to not laugh at me okay okay so i take a lot of pictures right what i just
what nah you just told me i can't laugh and that immediately made it incredibly hard not to laugh
that's literally a trick for like two-year-olds i know okay don't laugh i'm going to take the
picture now don't laugh i know i never grew up are you thinking about smiling because if you're
thinking about smiling that's not the thing to do right now because i'm taking a serious picture
that is funny that would work on me i know oh god it would work on me too
okay sorry my mom's trick was always that she would just
completely have her composure nailed down and she'd go all right everybody ready okay everybody
serious okay pee pee poo poo bum bum fart part and it was just it didn't matter kids adults
didn't matter always worked that's pretty fun that's pretty good nobody it's i don't understand
what it because it only takes one person to break yeah and then it's contagious yeah yeah yeah yeah
okay you take a lot of pictures yeah okay i take a lot of pictures but
but i don't i don't necessarily remember like the context and i i don't necessarily have
like the like anything associated with it that helps me with the memory or that makes it more
fun to share with someone and already that's a format that totally exists you take a picture
and then you tapety tapety type of thing and then you like you like share it but what i want is
pretty much that except i don't share it so i want a more sophisticated metadata mechanism
where basically i take a picture and immediately a voice recording prompt comes up a voice to text
and i go you know this was so funny because two minutes before i took this you said
this and this and this and it was hilarious or whatever you can get crazy funding for this
so i'm imagining like uh like tell you how photography you know like it's basically like it's
like a diary but in photography form and it's really meant for my own consumption it's an
alternative it's like a digital version of what a scrapbook would be for someone who's way too lazy
to scrapbook because so it's like what what google is doing with google photos with their
memories thing but manual and therefore much more accurate yeah yeah and then and then obviously
there would be times that i would want to share it with someone so i could see having like shared
shared albums or like shared shared permissions and so having the ability to see just my own
or things that are shared with me by specific people or everything that's mine
plus what everyone shared with me but nothing algorithmic float goat and Floatplane chat
apparently we have that user now nice um said that hopefully it would be self-hosted app yeah
the problem is if anyone else made this and the reason why i said i know you could get a
bunch of funding for it is it would be ai scraping all of your notes and then doing stuff with it
including helping you search through it and find things um but also probably selling your data and
doing other stuff like that so yeah i i don't know like does that we're not making that
yeah but like but i want it like what if i could like what if i could just like take a picture
like i don't i i i'll be honest it might be actually i'd never heard of bad bunny until
he co-hosted the tonight show while i was a guest uh but i i did hear of him at that time and so i
like researched him a little bit so that i would know who he was when he was sitting there across
the desk and the album that he was promoting last year during the appearance uh or sorry last
last year 2024 uh five uh what last year damn um was i should have taken more pictures or something
like that was what it roughly translated to in english and that actually really stuck with me
because i've thought many times about how i'm always on video but i never take any pictures
i have almost no digital record of what things were like behind the scenes at the Langley house
for instance do you remember that time that we emptied out the garage in order to build sets
or something and i took it worse no no no at my house oh that i emptied out the garage to build
sets and took all of the like parts and tables and and everything out of the garage and stacked it
up into the living room oh yes my living room was piled so high with tech crap and cameras and
tripods and tables that like i couldn't navigate it it was like up to here there was nuts yeah
i didn't take a picture of it i just i did a pretty good job with the think of you know that we were
doing of taking some little videos and pictures here and there but how amazing one but how cool
would it have been if i just had like it's not picture we had to pile everything out of the
garage into the living room and we can barely stand in here boop and then that was just part of
the metadata of that photo along with where it was taken when it was taken what camera was taken
with all the metadata that already exists and i had a really bad experience with ken and zoom
browser way back in the day because i actually did something like this i used to maintain every
picture i took on my old power shot a20 i would write a little blurb about who it was and where i
was and what was happening and what i realized one day when i reformatted my computer and i
reinstalled zoom browser was that that metadata existed within zoom browser which was ken and's
proprietary first party photo sorting app it was actually pretty cool except that it wasn't
injecting that metadata into the files themselves and i lost all of it and ever since zoom browser
i've wanted a way to reproduce what i did arduously manually with zoom browser
but just more conveniently with my phone people are saying image this is that thing
that i brought up on screen yeah it is cool but it doesn't do that like it's what you're describing
yeah so i'm i don't know why people are saying image a little bit confused about the image
recommendation i don't i don't know much about this i'm discovering it today but
clicking through it it doesn't seem like it works like this at all it's more of like a google photos
yeah but self-hosted it seems awesome but just not what Linus is describing and tag studio seems
like kind of a cool thing but really what i'm after is not a separate thing i have to install
and and like like upkeep i want something that as i'm going i just yak yak yak yak picture
and now it's it's logged like that we're gonna riff off something that full plane chat brought up
having vibe coded an app
do you feel like it would be now you're an incredibly busy person
and if you were say if you had an hour every day to work on this do you feel like you would
it's tough i feel you had a little bit more free time however you wanted to find that i feel like
we used to i feel like the our relationship with photographs used to be different
we used to take fewer of them we were more intentful about them because every photograph
cost money we used to look at them we used to every time we look at them we'd laugh and
i find i take i okay so i said i don't take enough pictures i thought you're wonderful um
but i do i do take more than i used to but i look at them less
i don't think i look at them less because i actually really like the google photos memories
feature interesting i like we'll actually click on it and actually skip through them i've turned
off my notifications for google photos so maybe i just don't get those i like it a lot okay yeah
like i'll constantly get like old c e s trips
i think it knows that i really like the notifications of trips
that makes sense that checks out for you honestly probably usually when i take my most photos i mean that's probably a pretty common one yeah so like i wonder if i even
have any notifications right now um yeah tim's asking i could i could make what you're describing
it's like not difficult you're not asking for a difficult thing i mean i think where things
could get more memory for you click on it it plays some music music and and then you you
click on it it just goes through different photos yeah my in-laws will send me these every once in
a while like of my kids in their in their google photo things um sorry bud was uh saying something
and then i lost it um can't find it oh yeah uh would you need like styles on the iphone or
whatever the Android equivalent is i mean honestly you know i'm the basicist there is when it comes
to when it comes to photos um i'm just for me it's more about hey remember that that was cool
when we were all there and we did that thing and and we enjoyed it and and shared a memory right
like it's amazing how much we how much we lose i was talking to especially kids like i was talking
to my kids about something and you know one of them completely didn't remember a place we've
gone multiple times as a family another one didn't remember living in our old house which is like
yeah i mean when you were 10 how much did you remember from when you were six or seven
probably very little that's a third of your life and it like does work like that
like she remembered that we did it but she didn't like
okay remember it okay yeah okay very well like her her life is in this new place yeah
she's wild okay okay fair enough i was gonna be like dude that's crazy no no no no no but my
kid's not dumb she's got a functioning memory it's just well i don't remember what my memory was
like when i was 10 yeah so like i don't know um and there are massive voids for me now from back
then oh hundred percent so like i i'm not sure yeah it's like and it's weird like the little
things you'll remember like i uh like i remember this one time that i ate like nearly an entire
box of honey net Cheerios dry from the from the box yeah there's all these you know like like
there's like you'll have these little weird flashes and like i remember why can i listen to a blank
song that i genuinely haven't heard yeah off some like weird esoteric blank album in like 20 years
and just know all the lyrics immediately music's a funny one though music does just work magic on
our brains yeah in in ways that other things don't i have there was one trip i went on when i was
very little like like two or something and my ma maire had a waterbed and a yellow
washing machine and for some reason drilled into my brain is waterbred waterbed and yellow
washing machine and the waterbed i can like describe the room and like i we had this i had
a conversation with my dad like not even that long ago and i mentioned those two things and he was like
what like barely even remembered i was like alive when those things existed right because i
was like so little and for some reason i just know of those things like i have no idea why i
remembered that i remember the sound of my dad's waterbed but i don't remember what it looked like
sure yeah like what yep so random what happened to waterbeds anyway
i don't know can you buy a waterbed still uh popular in the 70s and 80s offering unique
pressure relief and blah blah blah waterbed can you like can you can you can you can you buy a
waterbed hard side probably pretty nice for thermal regulation way fair
semi-waveless waterbed mattress like am i is this a thing
no idea i currently sleep on a california king sized waterbed with my wife
mine paradox okay color i've yeah i think i think this is a waterbed
wow complete upholstered wood frame waterbed premium strobel hydro support 1600 inch semi-waveless
waterbed mattress upholstered frame blah blah blah go figure they're heated right i mean they'd
have to be otherwise you'd be so cold ladder type single can they tell that from a urine sample
what i wonder if they could tell if you were active or not i mean probably i think maybe i
yeah i'd think so anyways uh any other topics i don't know maybe oh we should oh yeah oh we do
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like genuinely nothing overwatch too is now overwatch remember when it was supposed to be a
different game from the first one including special hero missions new pve story tech trees and more
well i guess it still is but now it's just overwatch okay
okay cool remember everyone's just a rename right yeah we'll remember well yeah again
what about second rename yeah man what a bag fumble a bag fumble okay yes
just overwatch like it was such it was such a huge thing and then it feels like they just
oh sorry did the pve die oh okay apparently the pve never came that's hilarious yeah that's
awesome apparently they never did any of it yeah oh okay cool yeah sorry i i did i'm not a big
overwatch guy i thought overwatch two had been officially flagged as no more like a long time ago
i just i remember the joke being back when they launched overwatch two that it was the whole
thing was stupid because it was obviously a live service game anyway so what was the point of even
calling it that'd be like calling fortnite fortnite two arbitrarily one day yeah okay okay cool and
then that ended up being even more true than we thought and made fun of at the time yeah crazy
oh okay i was actually really excited about the pve i thought it'd be fun that's cool because again
the t the pve had stories and tech trees and stuff like it sounded like the way it was described
it sounded actually like really cool oh yeah and then blizzard again was like nothing what does blizzard
do that's good right now people like diablo still right i i think most people are more into PoE than
diablo if you're in that style of the game really i think so okay oh oh chat past effects
no no i don't yeah chat says nothing yeah i think they're just mostly declining literally nothing
like how well no uh wow diablo immortal no wow is declining i'm pretty sure
is it i thought it's pretty steady it's like gotta be uh wow subscriber count i don't know if they
publish it anymore wow quietly revealed a nine million subscriber number oh i mean estimates
not actually confirmed by blizzard according to zego rim okay on r slash pc gaming all classic
is getting kind of big how does that make it would it not have peaked a long time ago
i don't know if that's is it getting bigger is there are there any numbers on that how does
anyone know anything retell is still good
hmm okay anything else book or says blizzard's just a zombie as far as i know yeah i know they
stopped reporting subscribers a long time ago apparently they peaked at 12 million according
to an ai summary um back when they did report it raf that was uh like 2007 2010 i think was
when it said they peaked okay sure that might be more accurate i think 2007 was tbc i mean they
definitely still have millions of monthly paying subscribers so it's not like yeah but you're i don't
feel like it's a growth sector for them i think anyone's excited about especially if we're looking
at retail like when's the last time retail was like a really exciting thing for people online
outside of just the people who already play retail already oh yikes sticklier says that
12 million number was also a lie because it included pay by the hour pc cafes which counted
a single hour as a subscriber whoops no he says remember when hearthstone was very popular yeah
what happened to hearthstone is fantastic uh it's just it's just like most blizzard properties like
as far as my understanding goes it's fine but they're in that like holding pattern of like
they're not really necessarily getting a ton of new users so now they're they're catering to
long-term hardcore experienced players so they're putting more and more heavily mechanically advanced
cards and systems into the game and a really really deep roster of heroes that you can choose
and stuff like that which is cool if you've been into it forever and is daunting if you're a new
player um but they're knowing the people that they're aiming for now like it's not even necessarily
a bad strategy but it's yeah i think the last new thing blizzard did was overwatch they were
kind of on a bit of a tear there for a while here's the storm hearthstone overwatch and then they
kind of just i mean and for all the hate that they're getting for devil immortal it's not like
a lot of people weren't freaking playing that like really smoked um like how would i get a
player count for that uh but i'm yeah because it's it's all through blizzard's own launcher right so
i can't just look at steam stats or anything do you have a little mortal revenue do they do they
publish this uh people are saying some pretty high numbers
the devil immortal is a mobile game then that's why you don't know about it
oh well i mean i don't have a phone so yeah
this is uh this is actually this is actually a great this is actually a great reddit post
i played it for about a month during that time i joined a guild and was chatting with a
few of my new guildmates asked them if they were pumped about diablo 4 coming out and if they were
going to play it zero out of three had any idea that diablo 4 was coming out in two months or
had any means of playing it both of those two players were paid to win mobile gamers are so
different from other types of gamers you and i talking on the diablo 4 subreddit like you got
to zoom out every once in a while and realize we are talking about completely different people
doing completely different stuff having absolutely no idea what exists outside of their mobile gaming
bundle bubble bubble bubble bubble wild hey imagine playing diablo immortal and not knowing
that diablo 4 is coming it is hard for me to wrap my brain around that
but what i can wrap my brain around is that i'm a little frustrated about what went on with the 9850
x3d so we had our video on it where we concluded that it ran faster and didn't consume a ton more
power than the 9800 x3d which led us to conclude that it AMD wasn't really like juicing this thing
super hard in order to squeeze more performance out of it it looks like we might have just gotten a
really good chip and in the age of clock speeds up to as opposed to here's how fast it runs and
here's the voltage and here's the power consumption this is something that is only going to become
more of a problem rather than less of a problem it used to be that people would there were conspiracy
theories that Intel and AMD and NVIDIA they would they would provide golden chips to reviewers and
then the real product wouldn't perform as well and that was always kind of dismissed as as conspiracy
theory nonsense because it was but now whether it's intentional or not that is something that can
absolutely happen so user sugio lover published 17 results of their bind risen 7 9850 x3d 13
yeah 13 excuse me uh confirming that this chip is virtually an overclocked 9800 x3d just using
higher voltages to achieve the chip's 400 megahertz higher boost clock when cross-reference to hardware
lux's results on the 9800 x3d it shows the large difference in core voltage between the two out
of the 9800 x3d's published the slowest chip hit a single core boost clock of 5.6 11 gigahertz
while the most using the most voltage of 1.348 volts going back to the 9850 x3d almost all the
chips hit a similar clock speed while hovering around 1.31 so are they a little better it seems like
yes but not by as much as we might like to call it a new product when we compare the best 9850 x3d's
to the 9800 x3d the 9800 x3d uses about 13 more voltage which to be clear for these kinds of
microprocessors 13 more voltages that's a lot more voltage yeah but it is worth noting that
tom's hardware found that their 9850 x3d consumed about 30 percent more power for only a 3 percent
average performance improvement over their 9800 x3d so basically what we're seeing is there's
a lot of overlap between the worst 9850 x3d's and the best 9800 x3d's once you start to play around
with power profiles and voltages and i'm a little frustrated that we've reached the point where in
order to review a CPU it almost feels like you have to have five of them sourced from five different
places as opposed to just testing one and being able to report the performance that you get
that's all thank you for coming to my ted talk i'm just a little i'm just a little irritated
right now because it's one of those things where as you guys might imagine i have a little bit of
sensitivity around us you know publishing data in our videos do you think you'd have to
potentially go multi-country i don't i don't actually think you'd have to do that but i do
think there could be some value i was going to say to different batches but even then i don't i
don't even think that's likely to matter is because that's why i said different batches you i feel
like your chance of different batch would go up maybe if you in multi-country i just don't i i think
batches used to probably be more of a thing than they are today i remember chatting with the the
folks that Intel when i did the fab tour there and i i'm not going to disclose any numbers or
anything but there is a possibility of having a perfect wafer it turns out and what they told me
about that led me to believe that batch to batch probably doesn't really matter that much because
there's so many variables even within the multiple dies on a single wafer that at the end of the
day it's all probably gonna pretty much come out in the wash if you have more than a small handful
of chips yeah what are the topics that we got left uh oh one of the topics that i wanted to discuss
is there's been um a fair bit of conversation on social media about oh LMG's willingness to invest
in in pay for for its employees and i just wanted to kind of put this to rest again i feel like we
we did the how does LMG spend money video recently and i uh i i laid out you know how much more
LMG has spent on employee salaries going from 2024 to 2025 um and it seems like that didn't
really i don't know that didn't really sink in or it didn't really um it didn't really
reach far enough i'm not i'm not sure but basically i've always believed sunlight is the best
disinfectant so i actually asked accounting to put together some additional numbers okay
and here it is revenue and wage growth since 2018 so we i've talked about this both i think on
wanshow as well as in how does LMG spend money um revenue had struggled to grow for a couple of
years after 2022 in spite of that a combination of hiring more people but not really that many
our headcount today is actually pretty similar to what it was in 2022 2023 so it's a combination
of increased compensation for the people that are here as well as hiring additional people
has seen our investment in people continue to increase even when our revenue has been quite
flat so sorry this is a bit of a this is a little bit confusing because this says growth and this
says growth uh but that's not actually it these are these are absolute values uh relative to
each other so that doesn't mean they're both using the same y-axis it just means that we are looking
at how these things track compared to oh wait wait wait no no i do remember sorry sorry sorry
josh explain this to me uh growth is relative to 2018 so this is how much more than 2018 it is
and then there's a different view that is a little bit easier for me to wrap my brain around
and that's how much percentage change so this is zero over the previous year so
wage growth outpaced revenue growth in 2019 revenue growth outpaced wage growth in 2020
they were both about the same in 2021 revenue growth outpaced wage growth a little bit in 2022
and then into 23 and 24 wage growth outpaced revenue growth dramatically and then there uh
they had those are reversed with revenue growth outpacing wage growth in 2025 but not by not by
very much it's pretty close like about like what we saw in 2019 then there's profit so i've talked
about this before as well this is all relative to 2018 so in 2022 because you're seeing that
increased investment in people um happen when revenue is flat that obviously has an impact
on profitability right neat right and then this is the year on year look so year on year
we had a pretty big dip in profit in 2023 and things are a little bit more on pace with each
other in 2024 and 2025 but as you can see even though revenues recovered a little bit in 2025
profitability is still has its own struggles just because there are other overhead concerns aside
from just salaries so just wanted to make it very very clear that LMG continues has and continues
to invest in people and uh that applies both to key members that we want to keep here on the team
as well as to new hires
in other news five Ryzen nine thousands were killed in a single day by as rock motherboards
allegedly as rock has issued a statement saying it's investigating reports of AMD Ryzen
nine thousands uh failing on its am five motherboards the company says that it is conducting
internal reviews working with AMD and rolling out BIOS optimizations to improve stability this comes
after five different reddit posts claiming multiple Ryzen 9000 chips across different models stopped
working with some cases showing systems unable to boot even after BIOS updates in most of these
reports the chips are getting hot enough to leave scorch marks on the CPU and socket and tom's
hardware found around 350 reports of the same issue albeit not albeit those ones are not verified
so our discussion question here is when hardware failures start trending online how much should
consumers rely on these anecdotal reports versus official failure rate numbers
uh
yikes that's tough uh anecdotes are important i don't think anecdotes should just be ignored
official failure rate data though might take a really long time and i think you should be
aware of the anecdotes just in case there isn't official failure rate data
also um where did the official failure rate data come from yeah i wish i could
who would i trust today if they gave me like internal failure rates who would you trust
internal failure rates i'd trust Noctua okay if Noctua published a failure rate which i don't
think they ever would but if they did i think i'd believe them is there anyone else you can think
of that you would believe i don't mean to offend i think effectively no one um i think it's like
and and this this isn't because i'm like companies are evil um it's like
there's always the potential of a perverse incentive at every company everywhere um there's
always the potential there are companies where i think it might happen less uh i am very ignorant
to the reality of a lot of those companies like like yeah my gut check says that Noctua is probably
going to be legit about it but do i have any idea how Noctua functions as a company not in the slightest
i think i probably have a little more insight than you like talk to them i've literally never
talked but not much because i'm still i'm not just taking them at their word like they they've said
over and over again like we cared about this and we made it quiet and reliable and we care about
measurements and engineering and testing and then and then that has borne out
so many times that i that i've built there's a track record going on yeah there's there's a
track record but you're not you're not in uh meetings with them see how they deal with management
no i'm not so who knows there there might be a perverse incentive somewhere which could
push someone to skew things a little bit like you never you never know i haven't met every
single person who works at Noctua that's for sure no so there are there are companies that i would
see that data from and believe more there are companies that i'd see that data from and believe
less fax on says i would want third party i'd trust pujit systems
pujit they're pretty freaking legit they're pretty based they're pretty freaking based i've met john
he's pretty based that's one that i would i would index quite high in the
but but for basically all the and when i say third party this is this is a problem with all
of these situations a third party can't be hired by them we have seen this we've literally seen
this happen which one when that data gets skewed there was an Intel one a bunch of years back
we talked about on my show i'm talking about principled technologies are you maybe that was it
where the like benchmark data was was off i think that is what i'm talking about um it's not
failure rate data but like i'm just talking about almost any data sure sure sure sure and i think
that i think that my bar would be lower for our private conversation versus something that they
published like if like if us if an si for instance told me like yeah we've seen a 50% failure rate on
these bloody things in the field that's very talk and shop higher numbers also make me believe it
way more and and and i would and i would like somebody said 50% failure rate i would just
believe it especially if if we're talking as and the context of the conversation matters as well
like we're talking as business owners yes and if i was talking about like oh yeah you know we had
this issue with our backpack where the stupid bloody supplier didn't and they're like oh my god i'm
going through this right now it's horrible yeah we're getting we're getting over half of our you
know whatever card x is failing in the field and it's costing me a fortune and warranty returns
like where you're swapping war stories yeah a little bit like that the context sound to believe
that a little bit more matters uh slithery says falcon falcon is another si actually two si is on
my list that i think i think if kel told me something i'd be like yeah because he just man that guy
cares so much i don't think i've met almost anyone else in the industry who's been in it as long as
him and just like been through the ringer as much as him and uh because you got to remember falcon's
not a volume company yeah like they've never looked kind of like pujit they've they've stayed in their
lane and excelled in their niche but not like scaled right like like he's not hanging out on
his yacht you know every other every other weekend like he's he's he's he's he works you know and uh
and so he's just been kind of working as an si so this is back when i was at ncix you just you
get kind of screwed on everything you get screwed on pricing you get screwed on allocation you get
screwed on support like you go and you list this stuff and you say yeah it's compatible but like oh
my god i didn't even get any of these until yesterday and i or you know a few weeks ago to do a bit of
like validation and testing but like i don't have the engineering resources that an AMD or an Intel
or an NVIDIA has so i'm like i'm doing my best with like open source tools or community built tools
um like it's it's just it's a really tough business and yeah kelts still kelts still super
super passionate which is impressive cool guy the thing about an si though is they're not
really throwing their own product under the bus they could be they have their own cases don't they
yeah um one of their stuff's overheating
yeah yeah i think even then though there's it's like a shared blame whereas i think i would have a
harder time believing someone's data on their own product like if i told you guys a failure rate for
LTT screwdriver i think that would be harder for you to believe versus if i told you guys a failure
rate for our mold maker making the handles or something like that it's hard to admit your
own fault and i think that we intuitively know that and we trust people less when they're when
they are so you you came back to what's the motivation behind the conversation if you say
the failure rate of the mold maker that to me comes across as like woe is me our expenses are high
and i'm trying to spin our quality control yeah rejecting those failures if it's further down the
line then it you you risk the incompetence angle that's right or i'm throwing a member of my team
under the bus which obviously i would have more sensitivity about versus throwing some random
under the bus right yeah you don't have to deal with those like if i had to throw it for some
reason i had to throw kyle under the bus for something i would i would want to sugarcoat it
yeah i would want to at least a little that is a form of perverse incentive this this the whole
thing's a mess um basically i wouldn't i wouldn't blindly trust any of these numbers but um do with
any of them what you will i'm just trying i want to check out chat um oh hi josh says what about
seasonic seasonic i don't know i like i i can see their behavior as building quality products and
standing behind them but i don't like know that many people there like our rep is amazing he's
like the coolest guy ever and if he was the ceo of the company i'd be like yeah because he is based
but i i don't know the like senior leadership there the way that i do knock to our falcon
appugia where i've like actually met them and had conversations with them um you know what
else is here yeah not much man bits of bits says what about LTT Store i hear those guys are a thing
this might uh be spooky but no really yeah okay for the exact same reason i already gave
the perverse incentives you mean yeah yeah they are impossible to 100 get rid of in my opinion
tell me something tell me something because what i'll say is i wouldn't publish that i wouldn't
publish it if it was good and i wouldn't publish it if it was bad so for that is this part of why
so for that reason if i was to publish it do you think i would question my motivation
i would question your motivation i think there are motivations that could exist that would make me
fairly strongly believe it sure like there'd have to be a reason like why am i why am i talking about
you know our our expenses well there's a reason there's because somebody has raised this as as a
thing um like if you're not gonna win that war with the cables no with the because uh um
because you're trying to you're trying to win a questioning war with transparency but legally
cannot be i don't think you can no i can't be fully transparent yeah but what i can say is
objectively we are making the investments that people seem to think that we're not but then
but this is the problem because the the questions are infinite and then and your problem is if there
is a question at all on the internet you'll find it oh yeah and then that bothers um i mean i think
i've said about as much as there is to say at this point okay for this one um you know the the simple
fact is that whether it's through hiring more support or whether it's through scaling salaries
we have in spite of in spite of stagnant revenue over the last few years and declining profits
we have continued to invest in both and you would never in a thousand years
pry the exact reasons out of me for any single employees you know pay scaling in fact in most
cases this may surprise you he doesn't know i don't do everything and i don't even know
right and so you would never you you'd never get that out of me because just to to force you
shouldn't yeah no i agree to force it back to the topic at hand yeah this is part of the reason
for my comment about the cw stuff it has genuinely nothing negative to do with cw yeah the reason
for that comment for me is that it scales into everything and that included my own and that's
how i view cw is not mine but that's how i that's how i viewed it in that context was like i would
still question it because like the second you start getting into distributed work which is like any
company ever that has employees um there's weird stuff going on there's weird stuff going on everywhere
and like what if what if someone's goals very nobly it's like hey let's get failure rate down
let's make the products more reliable yeah and one of the ways that they can get their bonus or
whatever is by being like numbers one percent higher nice got it yeah the stuff might happen
and i'd have no way of knowing that no like i could stand here and i could i could pass
information along to you guys that i might not even know as bad and i love the cw people they're
great yeah but just like any company like people come in people people leave yeah things change
yeah so like i don't know i don't know man like i'm sitting here going like and and and and it's
hard to divorce ourselves i am asking zero people to blindly trust the information from Labs
yeah and i never have well we all we've always said you should get multiple sources exactly and
that's the inherent problem here is there is no multiple source exactly that i'm falling back
to the same argument we have always fallen back to but it's hard to it's hard to divorce myself
from personal trust if kyle told me i would believe him but that's a different thing that's well
because maybe he maybe maybe there's there's a there's a required efficiency in order to live
in a certain amount of trust in in people around you and i think in your situation i just thought
i think he's earned it like he doesn't hide things from me i don't find out about things later
particularly with kyle but i'm talking about from the perspective of an audience member
and i can't tell that audience member to do that no yeah no you're right if i if i'm trying to
give this audience member uh i think the the modern people say chat if i'm trying to give chat
um good advice on how to like you know approach things and conduct themselves and whatnot yeah
blindly believe us because we're cool company is like not the law we will we'd never say that but
that's my point so it's it has no it's no slight against cw again i'm pointing at Labs don't blindly
believe stuff from Labs either get multiple sources and this is because i'm i'm trying to
be consistent yeah multiple sources and also i mean logicking your way through things is also
good too understanding like i've i've always i've always told people when when i talk about
negotiations is like understand both sides of the table or you have absolutely no shot whatsoever
of reaching any kind of meaningful agreement right and it's the it's it's like it's the same
when you're just when you're trying to understand why people are doing the things that they're
doing i think it's very easy to assume that someone is doing something because they're
a malicious monster because they're a big dummy or whatever but most of the time that's not the
case so if we so if we sit and we go okay you know what would be his motivation for representing
this failure rate or this or or this data uh in in this particular way i think it can help us
and and maybe that's where the context of the conversation comes in because if someone is trying
to go all around this yeah if they're trying to impress you with how much loss they've absorbed
this quarter if it's a game of one upmanship then if anything you might think they might exaggerate
whereas if they're trying to sell you a big contract to use their systems the last thing
that they're going to want to bring up is that 50% of the ssds they're using have failed in the last
quarter if someone's trying to sell their company they want it to look like an extremely well-oiled
machine with low failure rates if someone's trying to get sympathy from their customers
they might try to point that their failure rates are really high because their quality control is
really high there are reasons all over the place all over the place constantly um that
yeah especially the no i don't know if that's true i was going to say especially bigger companies
because there are like smaller factions with their own goals that um the people you might know
might not even know those people exist that are that are causing things to kind of happen
within these spaces and it gets it gets a little bit crazy so yeah i don't know you could use it
as information yeah there you go you could use it as information i would prefer if it came from
more than one source so like if a company claimed that they had some something going on um oh our
our devices fail only three percent of the time after four years or two years or something
neat that sounds cool i'm not going to put a ton of stock into that and then if a third party source
if a creator youtube creator whatever comes out there or a retailer if project farm
rips their thing apart for whatever reason sure i'm going to put more weight on that
right okay so but that doesn't necessarily means a non tech creator the exact numbers right right
right like like if if AMD were to say our CPU failure rates are less than one percent and then
like a retailer were to come out and say yeah we get less than two percent returns and most of
them still work that would it would reinforce it at least even if it doesn't mean that i believe
a hundred percent but i was actually i was i was gonna i was gonna bring this up you said
you know something about putting more stock in it and that reminded me like some of these companies
are public companies on the subject of stock and there's in theory legal ramifications for lying
to investors for instance would you would you believe it anymore if in addressing this Ryzen
CPU's are dying thing that AMD on a quarterly call said we've investigated it and we found that
it's actually a failure rate of less than you know point one percent and and we are still
going to investigate it but it's it's a relatively isolated issue would you believe it even a little
bit more knowing the sort of the potential legal ramifications around it if you know if a whistle
war were to come out and say that that's not actually what happened i don't think so is that
just because of the current zero consequences environment thousand percent yeah yeah nothing
happens when companies do that so i i wouldn't believe it if if if things did then then yeah
also i've heard this is true i'm not even trying to get political and i've heard this is just like
in the in the business world like something you should do but i'm not into it not not night night
tow hand night oh hand so trump did this with his properties forbes calls it's worth so much put me
on your super wealthy list whatever irs calls that the building's falling apart it's so worthless
you should probably charge me less taxes because the property value is lower and like this is
use trump in that example brother that's people be doing that that's one of the few things that
i've believed that that man has said over the last decade or so yeah and tons of other people
that everybody know that everybody does that oh yeah yeah yeah totally like he said everyone
does it and i was like yep probably yeah like actually um
we have one more topic space x is acquiring ai startup x ai yeah ahead of a potential ipo
yeah this yeah so that we can build um data centers in space well okay do you know i know
it's less stupid than it sounds oh that wasn't where i was going oh okay uh do you know the money
circle with open ai and oracle and uh NVIDIA and uh whoever else this is like that but like incest
it's just his own money circle yes i know yeah um but also orbital data centers cool nice
solar power sick just to hope that you don't have to swap a ramstick
dude astronaut it people a j in space a j in space i think a j would go to space if we
really needed him to he probably would i think he probably would based yeah oh no key reminded me
that uh project farm actually uh did another roundup video that featured one of our products
this time our precision screwdriver set which is now our precision pro by the way
yeah included a whole bunch of other ones once again we scored extremely well i mean you should
obviously watch the whole video but yeah i don't yeah the tl dr is we're up here a lot of the things
that matter to me a lot we actually scored really well in coming first for subjective
rating of the swivel end cap first for how comfortable and natural the screwdriver feels
in the hand first for overall storage case rating for bit retention organization and durability
and first for bit retention strength so holding on to the bit so that they don't come popping out if
if you pull the screwdriver back and they're kind of like stuck in a screw a little bit
one of the areas where we fell short was in the durability of the bits under high pressure
that was an active decision it's one that not everyone will agree with but i had issues breaking
bits from other screwdriver sets before and when i talked to the team about it they basically went
well okay better steel is not necessarily a thing it's do you want a harder steel yeah that's what
properties you're looking for or do you want like a i forget what the advantages of the slightly
soft it's all right it's whether they'll bend or whether they will snap will they stay the same
shape until they snap or will they bend a little bit before they break and be less likely to snap
and with a precision set we ultimately made the decision to go with one that would not snap under
duress and that's not a decision that absolutely everyone will agree with yeah but it is one that
we made nice so yeah it's always very cool to see todd's extremely creative testing methodologies he
really does have kind of a way of bringing things into the real world whether i necessarily agree
with absolutely everything he does i would say i would say no i thought the the laptop
drop test onto the like the bar was a little questionable i think we performed really well
in it with the the backpack video that he did a little while ago i like that his testing is like
that though but what i was gonna say yeah is that much like we always say to get multiple perspectives
i think todd's perspective is extremely valuable completely yeah yeah um and that has just inherently
in the way that he does his tests yeah there's some that are gonna be imperfect and i think that's
awesome um and i don't think i i don't desire a change there at all personally
and i do know that uh p kinetics says if your bits are either stripping or snapping isn't that
a sign that something ain't right yes which is exactly why i didn't want to go the snapping
route because you should never be putting that much force on a precision screwdriver bit
yep yes yes yes the the one time i managed to uh destroy a bunch of precision bits and i
admit i went through more than i would like to admit was on some apple device that had some hidden
something that made it so that even though it seemed like it should go it didn't until you
like unlock something or something i forget the exact details but that was the experience that
i had that made me ultimately choose not to go for the the snapping kind because it like a piece
went like flying off of it and i was like oh that's probably not that great bits of bits in
Floatplane chat said i just make my bits into bits so they become bits of bits
that's a bit crazy i'm sorry i can't get behind that after dark yeah it's after dark
let's go boys let's go
is like let's go like unc slang now i think it is probably yeah nice chat is i mean i'm 35 so
it's probably fine solid i yeah it's just i've seen that stuff and i'm just like man i don't care
yeah yeah i am nice yeah sweet sounds good yeah exactly sweet i have no desire to change that
i'm probably gonna stay sweet forever cool yeah that's what it is i would do this
oh sorry do you want some more no i'm i don't know why i voiced my internal observation i'm on my
fourth i think well thirsty today i might have a disorder i probably do uh what's up boys
do all of you have eight sleep would you recommend it and how do you guys like it
i have one it's kind of a lifesaver from everything that i've seen externally they seem to be like
kind of a horrible company they seem to be a horrible company they seem to have horrible
practices and one of mine died once they did send me a new one but i couldn't tell you for sure
whether that was just because i'm an influencer i sleep a lot more comfortably on it i sleep a
lot more comfortably on it if mine dies and i were to have to buy another one i'm going to
really hope there are good competitors and i can leave but if there wasn't yeah i don't know
because it really does help a lot i cook and uh the partner does not hear me out and this is a
pretty common occurrence water bed one side water bed water bed with a heated blanket under her
uh i think you'd buy one again
maybe there's alternatives if there was no other choice there's there's no there's no other choice
it really has done a lot for me i i think you'd do it again i think if it came down to it what
i would really hope to do is you remember that project where somebody figured out how to like
hack it to make it local is i would put like a bounty out there to get that going again
i think that's what i would do
so it's my oh yeah i had to reset your uh your background i'm sorry about that Linus
all right uh do make dual zone heated mattresses the problem is that is like the opposite of the
point yeah he needs it cooled i need it cool he needs it heated it has to be able to do both
in the winter i was running on they they have this thing where it can like
track your body heat and and do whatever i turned that off or didn't subscribe to it or something
i don't have that running i just have it pinned to the lowest possible temperature it can go
all of the time and do that in the winter he's a warm boy and i still sometimes wake up like
it's it's surely times says hear me out separate beds like no no there's no way i
i man i've already like talked about this and i don't think we've ever actually reached a
conclusion for how bad like tossing and turning or snoring or something would have to be
for us to sleep in separate beds like it is like it is a key part of of being a couple and
like there's no way i'm proud of said bamboo cooling sheets trust me bro yeah i did i did
trust people who suggested that at one point in time trust me they're not magic trust me bro
they're not magic i'd be cooking okay uh yeah the almighty q says my wife is a popsicle and i'm a
human heater i feel you this is the standard yeah you got you got generic generic packaged letter a
yeah all right more yes what's up calm goblers my calm gobbler quote on girl friend instantly
fix the tv after i had uh floundered for an hour and i'm slow down slow down is that what we've done
by calling them comms what do you mean calm gobbler
Dan did you not even understand what you were saying you know he did there's no way
he is to look at the look on his face see that's the look that's the look of a man who knew exactly
what he was doing my calm guy in brackets girlfriend is crazy he actually looks like crazy he actually
looks like this meme which one is i can't believe i can't do this i can't do this he actually did
this he's this man i do you have any similar stories about your uh sorry uh i she fixed the tv
after i had floundered for an hour and i was embarrassed do you have any similar stories
of your partners out to teching you yeah emma emma goes who's the tech boyfriend now that's her line
i uh look at me i'm the tech boyfriend now my daughter forgot her pin on a samsung phone and
forgot the password for the samsung account and i said this is going to be more trouble than its
worth and it's going to cost more to fix than this older phone is probably worth i just i can't be
bothered and Yvonne goes reset it i can do no no you couldn't reset it unless she's like i'm going
to go to a kiosk in the mall and i'm going to see if they can do it and they did it it was like 50
bucks 75 something like that and i was like you were right i was wrong i would know i said it i would
not have expected that to work it worked it turns out that our whole security it's it's it's tied to
our account nobody should steal it because it's tied to my account thing is all completely
all make believe yep cool Linus since you have recent experience in oral care i wanted to get
your opinion on this i asked my dentist why they still pull teeth with pliers and he replied
how would you innovate oral care that's a yeah that's a really great question it really is a very
very unpleasant experience getting uh getting teeth out i if anything i would say like
you know it'd be kind of cool if they if they had something that like really shaped around the
tooth so that it you know grabbed it better because when they like slip or like you know
you know break it off like i freaking i don't know beyond little drones that like flying your
mouth and blasted out with lasers or something like i i don't really see how you can innovate on
like rip a rip a thing out of a jawbone you've had teeth out you were awake for your wisdom teeth
right no oh you we went on yeah they were like no you need to oh because mine were coming in like
this way one of one of those coming in like totally sideways sweet yeah um and i got all four at once
right okay yeah i said that i didn't want to do it like i was like no all right solid um oh you
were impacted yeah i don't i don't really remember the details he uh he was rather convincing to
the point where if i were correctly he like wasn't going to do it um yeah cool yeah he explained why
he had to like i don't know but it was because it was mainly because the one of them was coming
in like completely sideways and he's like yeah it's just like not cool this has to be you're
going to go down and i was like okay i wonder how many people like a thousand years ago like how
many people just died of their mouth getting horribly infected and it's spreading to their
brain a lot like just i mean the the the primary reason why i had to do it was because that thing
coming in the way that it was yeah meant that it was impossible to get a toothbrush back there
yeah so there was like so then your mouth would just start rotting out eventually and then you
then that's bad yeah um yeah it's kind of crazy because like anything that goes wrong with your
body after your prime childbearing years whatever like it has it has no there's no evolutionary
disadvantage to it so who cares if your teeth become mangled at 40 you already spread your seed or
you know did the things yep yep cool hey lld calm check for your home servers what is your
normal compliment of virtual machines or containers to run all right i just have like a desktop os and
plex and that's pretty much all i do with mine i have not actually dabbled much yet it's mostly
been desktop os's um but i will be running image um once i'm switched over once hexos goes out of
investment disclosure i'm super excited for just simpler setup and and playing around
with a whole bunch of stuff when i can oh i have a home assistant vm as well i've i've almost always
only had one system so a lot of things were just running on the same system that i did everything
else with um and usually i just lived by myself so the impact of that on anyone else was zero
so if i had to restart my computer it's like well yeah whatever
sup i'm lld i love the screwdrivers i've lost and broken a few at work a magnetite
mine the devil's magnetite sounds cool it's like fair sound sounds like mcu stuff
magnetite strongly magnetic ion oxide mineral cool yeah um why did you invert the mechanism
from how every other screwdriver i guess like changes the direction and how often am i supposed
to clean the dirt out of the ratchet okay you're not supposed to get dirt in the ratchet but um
um i admit that we never thought of ip rating it uh the magnets in the screwdriver just want
to return to their families right yeah that makes a ton of sense actually uh i i don't i
literally don't i don't know if i don't know if you can do that that um wow didn't think of that
as for why we inverted it it's because we're not the only ones snap on also goes the same
direction that we do and to me it was always more intuitive to go this is the direction
i am screwing in this is the direction i am unscrewing right now and so we actually put
significant time and money and energy into a perfectly good ratchet ratchet um selector
mechanism from mega pro that i really really really really really wanted to go the other way
because i liked it better that way
sorry correct call i'm glad you like it then i guess reach out to the support if you want
cleaning inside i really don't know if they don't even think that's possible yeah well yeah
how much did it cost to make modified molds for the Floatplane screwdriver kit and will it be
around for a while in order to justify said molds i'm randomly curious cheaper than you'd think
the molds for the og screwdriver were really expensive like over a hundred thousand dollars
for all the molds in fact like a lot over a hundred thousand dollars i'm rusty on the numbers but a
lot um the molds for the precision screwdriver were done over in china instead of by um itd here
locally so i think it was like a couple grand i was told the number for like sure the the plate
with the logo do you want me to say that one if i don't care if it was 500 bucks i don't believe
you i need multiple sources that was the only reason that i had you say it just because i
wanted to set that up i mean it's a good point though because i am probably someone who heard
from someone who heard from someone so like at zelm says china owns your molds now and that is
exactly the trade-off so you get something made onshore here you own it i own that mold for
the og screwdriver and that's really really important for a product that i i really don't
want to be copied um however the molding for a casing for what is the real product is a lot
less important to me i think it would be harder for someone to replicate the user experience of
the precision screwdriver simply by having the mold for the plastic shell that sits around it
so talking specifically this yeah this piece so that's why we make strategic decisions um about
where we are going to make our molds depending on what their purpose is the og screwdriver also
needed to be useful for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of cycles and a better
quality mold will last longer before it needs to be remade that i don't know a few thousand we're
not going to make a ton of those so it's just not as important that it's a super high quality mold
that we we own forever six of three asks how long is it going to be available i don't know it depends
on how it sells and it depends on how many we bought and i don't know either of those things
right now if you want one buy it though like i we always go through this when stuff comes in
on LTT Store it it's like people forget sometimes that we are still a relatively small company in
the grand scheme of things especially when you consider how much stuff we do like how many
skews we have um like we will we'll bring in a shirt that it turns out we got wrong and we're
moving like one unit every three days so then we'll we'll put it on sale and during a big promo
and we'll sell through them all and we'll go oh thank god they're gone and then we'll have people
crawling out of the woodwork going oh i was i i wanted to buy one of those i was saving up for
that i'm sorry i can't i can't do an entire like 4 000 unit order so that you can have one
when you like you missed it i because they'll it'll take me like four years to sell through them
like i can't do that sorry
hi lld one for Linus how do you another one for me do we have any for luke i feel like i've done
all of them nope none i don't know i didn't scroll through it i got one for luke yeah let's do one
for luke sure hi lld actually this one's for Linus no hi from san diego if the open ai bubble
crash were to be controlled implosion where would they actually split up is the name brand
all that's left other models are better and i i it's cut off a bit probably profitable and profitable
other models are better at profitable is it name land the name brand of open ai is worth a lot
i think so too chat gbt brand of chat gbt somebody said in Floatplane that you can't really like
say chat anymore because people are calling chat chat gbt like i'm gonna i'm gonna chat it crazy
yeah and it's chat shot up i didn't know that we're that part of culture now we've verbed it like
googling yeah i'm gonna and it's chat that's the stupidest thing ever is that true stupid hey chat
is that true like actually though i i don't know somebody said that randomly yeah it's called chat
no wow jippity i prefer jippity that's uh yeah it's a youtube creator thing uh a a friend a queen's
friend whatever you want to call it um came up with consulting the sands and i like that a lot
that's always been my favorite one i will consult the sands i say talking to my parrot
according to chat gbt
users have started calling chat gbt simply chat because it's short and rolls off the tongue
yeah that's rough i like consulting the sands it's far from short
but i like that it doesn't it keeps the idea of the fact that you're just asking
a computer chip like right at the core of it and i love that like it's it's actually it's it's
by far my favorite one i did not come up with it but uh that's my favorite one i will consult the
sands it also sounds like epic yeah when it's like the opposite of that and then can you like set
the font and then you could consult the comic sands
yep you're fired tonight we're gonna wear this bell okay few left few left few left let's see
howdy boys there's a quick one for Linus how much longer do you have to deal with those braces
oh
um are they still yellow sometimes when i eat curry my god what i like curry yeah well i might
have curry tonight just to spite you hold off a little bit brother no i'm not that bad right now
did you guys
they're yellow bro get a different color get something that won't stain it's actually crazy
purple i'm supposed to be the one that doesn't care about my appearance
i mean look i damn he can't go you can't go and shave that but on a different shirt Linus
but just go change your teeth color things i was thinking about maybe on the last one the fact that
we don't change them in even thumbnails is crazy to me i'll get like i'll get like green and pink
ones i'll go lambo for the last one i in fact i was going to do it on not the last one but the
previous elastic change and then the reason i didn't is that right now i'm using what they
call a power chain so instead of having just individual elastics on each tooth it's just
one big chain all the way across the all the way across the top and a lot of the bottom right now
so what i had wanted to do was like green on my canines and then pink everywhere else but
was not meant to be unfortunately
i don't know man i just don't they still bother me a lot in terms of the pain slicing up the
inside of my lips and all that but they don't really bother me in terms of like the jaw ache or
the um like the look or the talking you know it's funny the mics on the tonight show i felt like
picked it up a lot worse or i was just nervous or something but i don't notice it as much in our
regular videos as i did when i was watching that i feel like i don't know if this impacts it
i feel like you were talking a lot that day because i started noticing it happening more as
the day progressed it happens more when my lips are really sore and really cut up oh dude i got
the most i'm still dealing with chap lips from that trip so like oh i'm talking about on the inside
and so it sometimes it'll get like a really deep cut and then it'll catch on the bottom of the
thing every time my lip slides up oh man which happens which happens way more in speech than
you realize yeah which i know because now i'm acutely aware of it every single time it happens
right yeah uh yes i know about i know about the wax but i'm just add as and it's hard to remember
to carry it with me and put it back on and take it off before i eat or just eat it and then put
it back on after i eat it's just a whole thing man um anyway it's just this one
yeah they actually remounted this bracket on the lower left canine last time i was in uh moving
it over theoretically that's supposed to be one of the benefits of these ceramic braces that this
particular system is that you don't have to remount brackets but i did so they remounted this one
and they're trying to turn this one and so most of it has made really good progress and like i don't
know i think uh looks pretty straight now right it's pretty lined up well there's that one that's
twisted like 15 degrees off that i might be waiting waiting waiting waiting for us to turn
because they can't turn it too fast would you ever take the top row off but leave the bottom
i would my ortho won't okay so it's not a thing apparently weird but this is the same ortho that
wouldn't even work on them until i got my wisdom teeth out which other orthos did not say the same
thing so it's not like that's just standard practice but they were rated really well and
unlike the other one that i got a quote from they didn't want to pull any of my non-wisdom teeth
one of the other ones wanted to pull a tooth from the bottom because of this crowding issue
and i just have me have a middle tooth and i was like buddy we're not doing that no yeah you know
what's funny though is i was like upset about him saying that i should do that but i actually it took
me years and my wife pointing out to me that she has one tooth out and that her her smile is offset
oh i don't actually necessarily care about that have you ever noticed no yeah and i don't care
about that part that wasn't my point i just if you don't have to pull my teeth out i'm gonna
rather not yeah that was my only yeah yeah tom cruise tom cruise has a crooked smile
he's got a center top tooth shut up you will never not be able to notice it
tom cruise middle tooth i think i could not notice it because i know about my wife's
one and i still don't notice it he totally done oh my god he does what i'm sorry for anybody who
didn't know this no i'm just never gonna care oh that's fun trivia oh my god it's it's like a
right dead center that's crazy i'm not gonna lie to me it just looks like his mouth is turned to
the side all the time because like i think it looks like he has two primary teeth in the front
they're just shifted to the side
yeah pretty much okay that hurts to see yeah wow i wow i just don't care
i don't yeah i don't know more more merch messages that are now check out messages
you'll get there eventually still getting used to it i'm gonna screw it up at some point because all over my screen it says
merch messages yeah so we'll get that fixed hi lod one for alinas how do you keep from
becoming overwhelmed by challenges and burden of running a company any tips tricks or thoughts to share
uh god i wish i had to me that's always something man it's always something like i
i forget who was in my office but i was just like they were giving me some kind of bad news and i was
just like can i just you know life is already hard mode right for everyone for everyone i'm not
special right like my life is not special hard if anything i've been i've been very blessed very
lucky very privileged in a lot of ways um but life in general it's pve pvp pv all the things
it's it's it's it's tough life is life is hard and i just i kind of like like i wasn't i wasn't
yelling at them but i was like i was kind of doing the thing where i like talk very animatedly like
i'm hosting but in a one-on-one conversation that's like just kind of almost like shrek style like
could just could just nothing go wrong for five minutes you know can we just have can we just
have everything operate normally and you know i just i just come into the office and every and
like there's no tech company you know sending us a broken sample or no you know someone dropped a
camera or you know like whatever for just could we just have a smooth operation
you know what i think it might have been it might have been when the the RAM apocalypse started happening because it was right on the heels of us making the msr ppc
and i was i was just like for for for for five minutes could the industry just just f*** off
and let me talk about how cool the stuff they make is can we just chill you know
and the answer is no and i think the only way that i managed to keep from being overwhelmed
is remembering why we do it and it's for it's for magic moments like you know seeing
longtime employees who i've known since they were they were they were young and childless bring
their their kids and you know sitting on santa's lap at the christmas party or you know whether it's
whether it's someone you know sending me a little message after hours or or having a quick chat with
me in the parking lot telling me like oh i you know i got a new car you know that kind of thing or
i bought a house or you know whatever it is we had we've had some people
be injured over the last little while like not at work but you know
hey i you know use the benefits program in this way or that way and and that really helped you
know you know why do we why do we do it and the answer always has to be people because if it's not
then you're not going to be able to keep it up and it's been really nice for physio i've i've
found a physio like my guess is three years ago at this point who like i actually really
jive with and every time i've gone to him i've needed to see him once for the thing that is
like a problem and he'll give me like a piece of paper with all the instructions and then
i actually do it i never have to see him again until a year later well until the next thing
comes up but like it's it's not the same thing oh i see what you mean yeah and he's freaking
awesome and i've never had to pay for it which has been sick or like you know you pay the little
thing but yeah yeah but it's like a token almost yeah like someone at one of the at one of the
pool parties at my place in the summer um someone was talking about their adult uh braces journey
and we don't do full coverage for braces but we do cover a very significant amount of it
and it was like yeah this was like why i was able to do it and i'm like that's cool
you know yeah i mean it's not cool it's adult braces but but but but it's something the end
result i'm allowed to say they're not cool i have them hi dll how would you guys tackle
cooling a pc with outside air in an insulated workshop using the positive pressure created as
the main form of ventilation absolutely love the products have to save
oh they bought a gift card i was gonna say they bought a save up for something else yeah um
can we fix that truncation thing is or is that user error where people are like it definitely
tells you how many characters you have left i have done that when i've replied occasionally uh
yeah but can you type past the amount yeah maybe we could maybe we could stop them
or something just an idea um yeah it's happened quite twice tonight it doesn't happen very often
at all but cooling a pc with outside air yeah it does stop using the positive pressure created
maybe it's a mobile thing as the main form of ventilation so it sounds like you want to put
your pc's intake on the like the air intake for your workshop
sorry i'm trying to wrap my brain around this using the positive pressure created
as the main form of ventilation so it sounds like you just need like a room ventilation fan
and then you just need to like put a duct on the back of your pc and then on the front of your pc
and then put the vent fan maybe you'd have to have two maybe you'd have to have like an assist
motor so you'd have one like right at the vent and it blows into the pc and then one on the
other side of the pc or something honestly this sounds like more work than it's probably worth
is what i am thinking right now and luke doesn't seem to care he's doing something else entirely
yeah he's on reddit yeah classic luke well i'm looking into a link that was linked they were
trying to tag you in full playing chat so i was checking to see if you should see it and it's
had somebody made somebody as far as i can tell vibe coded the the app that you asked for oh really
yeah oh that's hilarious so i was i was checking it out okay
how's fast yeah hey lld as a fellow workaholic how do you balance work without ignoring your
significant other start a company with her
not financial advice actually not advice we made it work but it was not always easy lots of tears
have a very understanding partner
no all none of this is advice okay i also have a technique
break up and then it won't be a problem at all
three not answers
oh my god that was horrible oh man that was like what's that that was just everything got
progressively worse the whole time yeah i shouldn't have talked isn't that like a storytelling
technique like escalation something like that
i don't know yeah i can't find it all right hit me hit me with a with a product message maybe
don't ask us about work stuff we don't know we're all weird um last one i have they're not gonna
stop i know uh the last one i've got i am in the process of building my ultimate pc
singularity computer's case hell yeah double loop 50 90 holy hand picked components only
la creme de la creme should i go for the 9800 3xd or rather 9950 3xd um okay normally i wouldn't
do this 3d normally i wouldn't do this but it seems to me that this looks like it's going
to be a real product i don't actually have any inside knowledge but there is there was rumored
to be a 9950 x3d 2 and the difference between this and the uh the 9950 x3d um is that both
of the ccds will have 3d vcash um which means that you will never have to worry about the
issue that people run into on the current flagship the current 16 core flagship where
occasionally a gaming thread will end up on the wrong die and you can um you can experience
slightly reduced performance in those cases which is which is why the 9850 x3d or previously the
9800 x3d were like the the gaming flagship but this new one looks like it should be zero compromise
so make of that what you will but i have no confirmation when it will arrive
if it didn't arrive if this is for gaming then i would probably go 9850 x3d it's the fastest
gaming CPU but because you've gone 5090 i assume you're going to get a high resolution monitor
which means you are f***ing never going to notice that your CPU is slightly faster
and on that note we'll see you again next week same bedtime same bed show bye
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