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We are long hello, are you doing gamers? Happy Friday. Oh God, this is terrible news.

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What? Didn't leave adequate media.

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That's right. Let's go. Adequate media is still kicking. Let's go.

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I can't. Whose idea was that?

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I think technically I said it, but it's your idea.

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How does that work? You said it, but I said it, but it's your idea. No, no, no.

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No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no, no.

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Because remember you wanted to call, I think it was like float playing that at some point,

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or you wanted that to be like, I thought it was your idea back then.

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I didn't think it was. Was it not? It's been so long. I have no idea.

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You know what? Was it just you and me like riffing stupid stuff back and forth?

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Very probably, yeah. So it comes from that, whoever's idea was, I don't know,

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it comes from whatever that was. At most I would be willing to claim like combined ownership.

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With 50%? Sure. And then I just remembered that. That's all that the mention was.

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Yeah. I didn't come up with it on the spot. It does sound like a stupid thing I would say.

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I thought that was your idea. Was it? I thought so. Maybe you just liked it a lot.

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No, I think that's what happened with Floatplane. I thought Floatplane, I just liked a lot.

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Maybe. Or maybe Floatplane. I don't know. It was all so long ago. I don't know.

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How do people write autobiographies? I just couldn't.

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There's definitely some stuff. I don't know. Some stuff happened. I'm pretty sure it was there.

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Like I remember who came up with Floatplane. I remember where we were. It was Nick.

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Oh, I remember where we all were. Or wait, the name or the idea? The name. Oh, really?

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Not the idea. Oh, it was Nick. Classic Nick. I was supposed to have lunch with him.

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He even came up with the like tagline. And that's why he came up with the name.

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Are you sure about that one? Pretty sure. I think you made it better.

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He said something about like, I don't remember. It had something. But I'm for sure that he came

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up with the name. I know that he got the name. Imagine calling in sick to lunch.

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I was supposed to have lunch with Nick and he called in sick. Oh, yeah.

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This is the first time anyone who doesn't work here anymore has ever called in sick.

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No, he actually, he had a really good excuse. Yeah, I got to catch up with him.

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But yeah, we were in your office at the time, which has gone through like a trillion tenets

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at this point, but it was this one right up here. Yeah, like Sammy has it now. Go figure.

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And we were like writing names down physically for some reason. Wow, that's neat. Delightfully

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analog. Yeah, that's cool. And we were like actually really struggling.

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I don't remember it that well. And the biggest problem was that the domains were all gone.

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Oh yeah. I remember that part. Yeah. Like it being really frustrating to find any brand that was still

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and dot coms still had some vestiges of dot coms still had some vestiges of mattering at all.

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Yeah. For sure back then. No, I don't know anymore. I'm not, I'm not sure if it matters at all anymore.

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Yeah, I might not. Like out of, like out of 10, right? Like in the early 2000s,

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mid 2000s, it was a 10. Yeah. Now it's, you'd rather have ncix.com than computer.ca or,

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you know, dot, dot TV or like whatever, you know, like random gibberish was literally better than

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a different top level domain. And then when we did Floatplane, I think it was,

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it was starting to change. Twitch TV existed, but those were outliers. I think it was like a seven.

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What do you think? I was also going to say a seven. Nice. So I think for something like

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Twitch TV, they have the like mass brand power to make it work. And there are, there are other

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things that can kind of get away with it. I think these days we could get away with float

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plane.TV and it would have been fine. I guess twitch.com. Actually, I'm kind of afraid to know.

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Oh, okay. But in that case, I don't think it used to, they do still own it though. I don't think

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it used to at the very least. I don't think they originally owned it. Did Valve ever buy steam.com?

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No, I don't think so. That's crazy. Yes. That's crazy. Yeah. There's just like no FU. We just won't.

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And it's team powered.com after all these years. That's nuts.

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Yeah, I will. What do you, what do you think it is now out of 10?

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Yeah, Twitch didn't originally own twitch.com. What is now? No, I was going to say seven now.

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You still think it's a seven now? I still think it matters because of people our age and older.

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I don't, I think if we're talking the kids, I think it's like a four. Discord.gg. Like,

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does discord have the .com? Yeah, they do. But I bet you they got it because of us and older.

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You think so? I think so. For the youngins, I don't think it matters at all. I feel like it's

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closer to like a five for me now. I don't know if it's a seven anymore. I think that's a lot.

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Okay, this TokaP thing, we're just, don't show againing. Don't show a what now?

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TokaP. You just had this happen. Sounds like a Pokemon. It's TokaP. Sorry, what?

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TokaAPI.dll. You just had this happen, right? Did you not?

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No, no, no. Threat Locker. Threat Locker.

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This. No, I think I'm with something else. Oh, well, I'm doing don't show again. Yeah,

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probably not important. Nice. The computer's still working right now. Sorry, I thought you were floating, I'm putting it Floatplane chat. You're good. Yeah, okay. I can see all this

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confusing. I was like, I thought that was what you had said and therefore you would have recognized

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and then I read someone's message that had the word fishing in it. And then I thought you were

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pointing at someone trying to exploit something in the Floatplane chat that was to do with some

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kind of DLL that was to do with fishing. My brain just kind of took two completely unrelated things

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and went, we're doing this way. That happens. Yeah, I couldn't, I literally couldn't even see

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the end of your finger because I was so busy thinking about DLL and fishing and Floatplane chat.

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Cool. Also, did you say Toka P? Like Toka API? Yeah. Why would you say Toka P?

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Yeah, I was messing around. What chance could I possibly have of knowing what you were talking

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about? Toka P. T-O-K-A-P-I dot D-L-L-O. I did correct that eventually. Which I don't even

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know what that is. Me neither. Okay, what is it? No direct information. Maybe this is the same one

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that I tried to look up. I'm pretty sure it was. I thought I heard you say it.

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It's not Toka P the Pokemon. I was messing around and not breaking down the words because

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I thought it was funnier. And I thought he would have immediately known what I was talking about

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and then because he didn't, it rapidly got confusing. Hey, speaking of things rapidly

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getting confusing and whatever actually, it's not really, it doesn't relate to our last topic.

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Jordan showed me the script for the first half of the Elo system vibe coding challenge video.

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I think you're going to really enjoy your reaction bits.

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My reaction bits? Yep. I don't even remember we filmed them. You haven't. Okay. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, but it's all set up for what I'm going to say

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and what you're going to see. Oh, okay. And then what you're going to kind of do little bits responding to be kind.

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It's going to be a little out of date. Yeah. The model you use and stuff is like...

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I don't think it matters because a lot of what went wrong with it is not even necessarily related

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to the model and a lot of what, a lot of the limitations that it had that have made it hard

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for me to upkeep it are very much still limitations. So, like I've got...

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That might be worth addressing in the video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's totally fine to

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just say like this was a while ago.

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Yeah, it's going to be good. Fine. Go to bed, Zanthan Wolf.

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Have a very good night, Zanthan Wolf. No. Have a great night. Yeah.

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Eat some chicken first or better yet, feed someone else chicken. We were, we were

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contrasting and it, and then you joined me and now I don't know what to do.

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Have a terrible sleep. Why would you be like that? Oh, I get it because of the chicken.

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Ain't nobody sleeping tonight. Not in Zanthan Wolf's house. Oh, man.

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All right, cool.

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Imagine due to stream delay, you didn't even hear any of that.

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It's possible. Yeah. I mean, he didn't respond, so he's probably just sleeping.

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Poor chickenless son of a bitch. All right. Should we, should we start the show?

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Yeah, you're good to go. All right. I'm good to go. All right. Let's do this.

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My two-year relationship ended right after WAN last week. Thanks for what you guys do.

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Did it end because of WAN? Was that an ironic thanks for what you guys do?

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Distracting me from spending time with my SO, so they leave me?

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Genuinely curious. Who was that? I need to make sure I see the response.

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Question for toxic sands. Question for water bottle lovers. How do you cut down the ice noise?

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I think the ice noise is a feature. I think ice in a drink has a very satisfying sound.

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You learn to appreciate it.

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But no, I did not see that Bernardo Baruch. Sorry, I don't actually hang out in the discord.

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I've popped into it like four or five times, I think.

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Did they ever reply? I didn't see it. They did. They said no LOL completely

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separate, but it's sad nonetheless. All right. Yeah, sorry to hear that, man.

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They will be okay. We will all make it.

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Oh, I mean, some of us might not make it.

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For like the stream, for instance, did not make it.

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Why does it go down so much these days? I feel like it's been less reliable.

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Oh, you seem in pain.

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Okay. Is this something we have to talk about off-show?

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Yeah. All right. Is it something that's going to cost money to fix? No. Oh.

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Then is it something that can cost money and be fixed?

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Eventually. Oh, okay, cool. Good chat. Thanks.

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All right. What do I do if I lose the rubber in my water bottle lid?

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Well, if it was a dirty one, then you clean your water bottle lid.

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You could buy a new water bottle lid. They're really cheap. Oh, that's such a terrible solution. I wish we... They said they lost it. Like, I don't know.

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No, they mean the... Wait, do they mean the... They said if they lose the rubber.

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Okay. Do you mean... Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Okay. Do you mean this rubber? Like here?

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Oh, I assumed they meant the like... This one? Or do you mean the silicone? I assumed they

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meant the silicone. Because if it's this one, I don't know, man. Could you 3D print that out of like

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TPU or something, maybe? Or like... Totally. Yeah, definitely. And also you could just not have it.

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It's not as good or cool or good looking and then you don't have to grip, but you could survive without it.

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It's the inside. The small white one. Yeah, the silicone. Yeah. I think our intention was to have

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them be available, but like, I don't know if we ever got around to that. I think we were kind of like,

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well, maybe just don't, you know? I mean, it happens. My kids managed to misplace one of the

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silicone seals on one of their thermoses for school. And I was like, come on, man.

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Like, can you just not? Like, where the hell am I supposed to get a new one? It's so irritating.

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Yeah. Is it a generic size you could find on Amazon? It's not just the size. It's also like,

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our water bottle lid has a little pull tab on it on the V2, which is I assume why they care so much

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about getting a new one. Yeah, I don't know, buddy. I don't have a good solution for you. From like,

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from like a right to repair and waste standpoint, I definitely totally see where you're coming

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from and you should be able to just get one new one. But we just don't have a process for that

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right now. So it's pretty tough. Yeah, we're still selling the V2 lids. Seven bucks Canadian on the

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global store. Yeah. Yeah. Or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, finally I have 99 USD.

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Yep. It's about lead V2 for LTT water bottle. It also works with a lot of other water bottles. It

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turns out that, um, you know, this OEM makes water bottles for a lot of companies.

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You know, there's some really weird stuff when I'm sure you've experienced this, but like, man,

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usually I'm, I'm just trying to do like Facebook Marketplace if I'm buying stuff, but, uh, I was

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buying a new thing and I had the experience where the Canadian price and the US price, despite the

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Canadian dollar being worth way less, were like really close, raw number wise, because of tariffs.

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Because of tariffs. Yeah, dog. It's like, oh, wait. It's been, it's actually like way cheaper.

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It's been really fascinating watching people with zero comprehension of basic numbers and how they

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work, talk about how tariffs will not have an inflationary effect. Dude, I, yeah. It's, it's

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wild. The same thing being effectively the same numerical dollars, but Canadian dollars being

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worth insanely less is wild. That thing was way cheaper in Canada. Like, holy. It's just like,

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yeah, thank you, Agius. Math is math. Like this is not, this is not a political conversation. This

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is just, this is just like number higher on input equal number higher on output. There's simply

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basically, there just isn't any other way around it. And I'm sorry, but there isn't.

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Oh man. Yeah. Boogerfinger says, buddy just tried to buy something from Alibaba and the

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tariff was the cost of the goods and shipping. So basically it was double the price.

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Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Melody Bunn says it's willful ignorance at this point. I don't,

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I don't, I don't know if it is. I had to buy a kind of really random cable. Yeah. I,

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the cheapest place I could find it online was eBay from like a seller that has sold

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like thousands of them. Right. So it's just a store. It's clearly a store, but it's on eBay.

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And it was $2.99 Canadian and on the US store, this, this is a different thing. This is not

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the thing that I was talking about, but this is just another example. On the US store,

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if I remember correctly, it was $3.99 US and I'm like, brother, not, not only is it just raw

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numerical value, the Canadian one is lower, but also the Canadian dollars were so much less that

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like the differential between the same cable is so much more. Yeah, it's just a few dollars. You're

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probably not going to think about it too much. But in, in the grand scheme, like,

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my goodness, that adds up when you do that to almost everything. Yeah. Man, it's been,

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it's, it's been, it's been pretty wild watching everything happen over the last little while.

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Do you ever think about that PC build we did? Yeah, literally like all the time. And I, I, I constantly tell people this story about like,

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there was no collusion at all. We were both genuinely surprised. No one believes me on that

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part. I know. Nobody believes me. We go to such lengths to not fake things for our content. Like,

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I remember having this conversation with another creator that I collaborated with a little while

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ago and they were like, wouldn't it be easier if you just like faked reactions to things or like,

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if you just sort of scripted things more? I'm like, yeah. I'm like, why don't you do that? I'm

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like, cause it would be lame. Yeah, it's boring. They're like, but everyone else does that. I'm

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like, I know. Yeah. Super documented. And it's, it's, it's just, it's so, ah, it's so annoying

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because people assume that we're doing the same thing. It's like, no, no, we just, no, I actually

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had someone living in my house and I didn't know, which is way funnier. Like if it was just scripted,

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you know, YouTube for kids garbage, then Dennis actually does exist. Yeah. Yeah. He's real.

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He could be in your house right now. I mean, he's not working here anymore. I don't know where he

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is. Yeah. We don't know what he's doing. He might not work here. I mean, he might, even when he did work here, he might have been in your house. He might have been.

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There's a non zero percentage chance. Oh man.

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Legend has it. He's still living there. Sup Rod. Hey, Rod. What did Rod do? It's more what he didn't do.

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What did Rod not do? I invited him to come to softball night last year and he didn't come.

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He's probably, maybe it was something very important. No.

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He said see you in a week. Are you coming out of whale land? Oh, let's go. Wait, is that in a week?

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Is it in a week? I thought it was the end of the month. Can't be in a week. Wait, what do you mean

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see you in a week? Is this one of those things that like is a word like see you next Tuesday is

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cunt. See you in a week. I'm afraid I don't know that one. Yeah, that's in two weeks.

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Two weeks. I mean, yeah, maybe Rod got confused. Maybe he just got a little ahead of himself.

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Yeah. Happens. I don't know. Ah, two weeks. Two weeks whale land. Okay. Nice.

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And yet somehow that will not make up for you not coming to softball last year.

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So you'll have to come to softball sometime this coming year or this year, this year, 2026.

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We're going to bring back, we're going to bring back softball night probably in the spring,

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summer timeframe, you know, like when softball is. That makes sense. Should we maybe start the

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show at some point? No. Really? Wouldn't that be kind of funny if we did an entire like WAN Show

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just just for the Floatplane piece? I don't think they would notice. You don't think so?

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I don't think they would really. I think they'd notice. The tone of the WAN Show is a little

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bit different from the pre-show. Or if you did a fake millennial pause for like 30 seconds,

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like they wouldn't know. That's kind of funny. Should I just do that on WAN Show?

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Pretend to start the show and then don't start the show. Everybody quiet, quiet.

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We end up doing that so often anyways. Yeah. Because we're just waiting for the YouTube

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thing so you can't time it perfectly. Yeah. No key. I know you would vote for a four-hour

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pre-show, one-hour live show. That's because then you wouldn't have to do the timestamps

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for a four-hour show.

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Not talking about topics for four hours. That's just WAN Show. Yeah, exactly. I do. I do think

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you're, I think we're- You do timestamps for Floatplane now? Oh, it's hilarious. I didn't know that.

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What an absolute mad lad. Based. Oh, is that thing? I should know this, but

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I didn't think people would use it anyways. How do you do timestamps for this bullshit?

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There is no topic.

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I have no clue. I just wing it. Oh yeah, and he does use the feature too.

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Cool. Oh, we have the feature. We support that now. Oh, that's super cool. Do you know what I'm

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talking about? I assume that it's clickable time things. Yeah. Wait, you thought I didn't

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know what those were or what? Well, I just didn't know if you knew what I was talking about. I knew

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you knew what those were. What? Why are you so mean to me? I'm not even trying to be mean.

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Dude, oh, speaking of collabs, I shot something with a local badminton YouTuber earlier this

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week. Oh, that was such a mistake. Not the collab. The collab was good. Just the timing.

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The timing was such a mistake because I snowboarded on Saturday

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and it was my first time being on a real mountain in like 10, 15 years. We were up at Big White.

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Yeah. Okay. I was going to say, it's not good around here. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Like,

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I've only skied the local mountains for many years now. And it's been bad. Yeah.

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Yeah. So like, we're talking like, I didn't actually time it, but it felt like runs were

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like 15 minutes long, like continuously. Like it's a big, it's right in the name.

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It's white and it's big. Very good. Very descriptive. So yeah. So I was up on Big White

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for Saturday and then I snowboarded again on Sunday. And then on Monday, I had badminton,

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like not, not training. Like it's not with a coach, but it's with one of the smash champs guys.

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And uh, it's my favorite mountain. Yikes.

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Wow. Come on. I don't know if they're going to be able to like stay open forever, man. Like,

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I'm getting actually worried about that. It's been bad for years. Yeah. No, they're doomed.

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It's, it's over. They're cooked. What mountain is that? Seymour. Yeah. Yeah. That's where we

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used this key. Yeah. Cause it's so easy to get to. You can go there after work. I know. You can

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actually like work here and your shift at a normal time and snowboard for a considerable amount of

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time and get home in time to like sleep reasonably before work the next day. Like it's amazing in

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theory when it has snow. Yeah. Anyway, my story is kind of boring. The point is I was really sore

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when we did the collab and uh, I was filled with deep regret while I was trying to learn how to

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jump smash after having done vigorous exercise for the previous four days that was basically all on

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my legs. I'm mostly recovered now. It's been a couple days now, but. How are your knees? Actually

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surprisingly good. Nice. Yeah. They've been, they've been good for a long time and like,

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like, you know how whenever I poke you, I'm like, oh man, your muscles are so firm.

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Like my thighs feel like that now. Like I'm, like I'm not, I'm not like flexing. Actually,

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the right one's a lot better than the left. Which makes sense. Which makes sense. Because of the,

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the Reynolds stuff I was out for so long and it's been, it's been depressing going back, but.

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Oh yeah. No, the left is a lot worse. My legs have always been twight.

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Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the right side's a lot better. This is.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he's, he's always like. My legs have been twight. Like thicker.

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Twight, twight. He's always thicker than me. But yeah, it's been, it's been sadge, but we're,

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we're getting to it. We're getting to it. When are you going to join us for baddie night?

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Uh, my knees are a problem right now. Oh no. But that. Those again?

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Everything's back because I was. What the heck? I was doing maintenance exercises

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and then I stopped for like six months because of Renault and traveling and everything,

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but it's all, it's all improving and rapidly. So I'll be fine. Like genuinely I will be fine

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and I will, I will start showing up to badminton and everything will be okay. I'm wanting to come

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to badminton. Heck yeah. I just need my shoulder not explode. Yeah. And, and you don't have to do

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baddie the whole time. And I will most certainly won't be at least one of the first few times that

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I go because my shoulder won't make it. Karis has been coming. Yeah. I almost carried Arianna

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against Tynan and Chewy on Tuesday. I was so close. I think we lost 21-19, but like, ah,

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almost. It was very close.

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Phil with a floppy D says, I swear Luke is permanently injured.

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Well, actually, yes. Does kind of feel that way. No, but that is actually kind of a thing without

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like some pretty seriously intrusive stuff. Well, you did so many sports when you were younger.

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Yeah. I'm just like starting to wonder if maybe. And like some really, really high contact ones.

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Kids just shouldn't play contact sports. There's some reasons to question it.

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I got a lot of benefit from it, I think. I would do it again. Like socially?

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I think so. Developmentally? I think so. But then I also bashed my head into things a lot.

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Yeah. Which has questionable effects. Right. Yeah.

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I don't know. I would do it again though. I'm not suicidal, by the way. Is that the...

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He's just like full traumatic head injury, like rage murderous rampage.

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Don't bash your head. I mean, yeah. Yeah. And this is health advice.

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I did. I was in the era when they were already getting you to like, you know,

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don't lead with your head and stuff. Right. Yeah. So like you were supposed to be hitting with your shoulders and things,

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and that's not why my shoulder is hurt. Yeah. That was a bike accident. Well, a car accident.

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With a bike. All things considered, I think I'm doing all right.

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I've been hit by cars twice. I'm doing okay. I can do this. I'm all right.

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And like realistically, when I'm consistently going, and it's been a bit,

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like things are pretty all right. And I'm on that thing where like,

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you gain your flexibility and your strength back two times faster when you're like

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regaining it. And I'm like very much in that curve still. So like it's...

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The starting point is like deeply frustrating, but we're getting there. It's okay.

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It is all right. No, the car was not parked. No, no. Yeah. Neither time was the car parked.

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It was also never, I never got hit head on either though. So

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I do have to tone it down a little bit that way. One time I was coming down a hill

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and a truck was in the left lane and I was in the right lane and it did like a last minute turn.

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and ended up in the bed of the truck. And the other time I was coming down Canada Highway

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on a hill. So I had a lot of... Canada Way. Not the Trans Canada Highway, which is very close

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to it. And so that could be confusing. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Good point. But I had a lot of speed

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coming down a really, really long hill. Yes. Turned into BCIT and was cruising on the side

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of the road and a car came up beside me and like bumped me. And I went into

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the like curb and my shoulder crunched like right on the curb. And the... I think I like

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blacked out or something. My favorite part of the story is coming next.

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Oh, no. That's the first time. Oh, that's the first time. Oh, never mind. Yeah. I didn't tell that part.

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I could. Yeah. Sure. The time that the truck swiped me, I'll skip a little bit and then

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then I, once I recovered initially, I picked up my bike and sprinted the whole way home because

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I had so much adrenaline. Yeah. Anyways, there's more to that story. But anyways, the second time,

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I have scars all along my fingers because my hand impacted and then I flipped and my shoulder

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impacted. It's probably lucky that it didn't go straight into the shoulder. Probably. I was...

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I think I was trying to roll. Right. I don't know. But then it was like a lot of pain and I was just

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kind of sitting there and someone came up to me and was like, are you good? And my hand is gushing

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blood and I was like, I don't think so. And there's like a medical thing at BCIT. So they brought me

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there and they were like, your shoulder is shattered. And I was like, oh, no. And then we got x-rays and

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they were like, your shoulder is fine. And the muscles in my shoulder were just so clenched up

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that when they tried to move it, they thought it was broken. Wow. Don't know how that happened.

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But sure. I mean, they're also medical students. Right. So. Quality. I don't know.

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But yeah, when I went to go get real x-rays, they were like, oh, no, you're good.

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Cool. Yeah. Very good.

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All right. We should start the show. Were you driving or biking? I was biking.

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Both times I've had problems with cars. I was biking.

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Have you ever been in like an actual car accident? Literally never. That's hilarious. Well, okay. One time I was a passenger

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and the driver in the car rear ended someone going like no miles an hour.

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And that's it. Man, I haven't been in one in a long time. Get some knock on wood action here.

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This crazy stuff happens, man. There was one time driving to NZX that I like e-braked

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to because someone like pulled out in front of me right in front of NZX.

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That like cul-de-sac that you'd pull into someone like I was coming down and somebody

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came out just just ripped out right in front of me and I slammed on the brake,

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realized it wasn't going to work and ripped the e-brake and they didn't even stop.

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It's something in the water.

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Bicycle. Yeah, bicycle. Yeah, pedal bike.

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I want to ride my bicycle. I want to ride my bike.

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Where's Linus' bike in the shop? Apparently. Next summer.

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There is a very good chance I will ride in March. This summer, I guess. Yep.

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That's what I meant by next summer, but sounds wrong.

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At least you didn't say the coming summer. Oh my.

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That'd be a good name for like a teen comedy. That sounds very...

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I love that we can hear Dan stick around and you guys can't. Normally I have my

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mic over there, but this is pre-show. Busted to whisper sweet nothings to them.

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What's National Land Flour? Was that it? Who did those?

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There was all those movies when we were younger that were like like that.

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Like American Pie, you mean? National Land Poon.

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Why is that making me think of this?

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Yeah, 1970. I have no idea what I'm thinking of. American Pie.

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I thought this was like a bunch of movies, not one, so I'm clearly thinking of the wrong thing.

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It's gotta be American Pie, which I've actually never seen.

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Hey. I don't think I've seen it in its entirety. Speaking of which,

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I don't think I would choose that, but we're overdue for a movie night.

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We are. Yeah. Okay, I'm sending out an email. Probably not. Probably not that. American Pie 2.

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Oh my God, should we go see it?

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Oh my God. No, we would have to financially support it.

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We gotta find some way to not do that crime. You want to pirate Melania and watch it. I don't want to watch it.

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It sounds insufferable. Have you read any reviews? No. It sounds so bad.

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Oh, man. It sounds awful.

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Okay, I'm emailing you all and we need to find a date.

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All right. That was a quality three-word email.

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All right, all right, let's actually start this thing. Okay, no, I think I was right.

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National Lampoon, yeah. And they were releasing, look, they started releasing movies in 1973, but then they kept going 2007, 2009.

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They just kept going. Dirty movie, snatched, dirty politics, that.

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These are all National Lampoon. They don't even have National Lampoon in the names though.

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Like what is this? The Legend of Awesomenest Maximus?

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Yeah, I don't know. What am I even looking at here? If I remember correctly, they would say like National Lampoon.

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Yeah, see, right there, National Lampoon's The Legend of...

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But it would be this thing at the top. So is this just like cheaper, crappier Mel Brooks movies?

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Or like, what am I looking at here exactly? I don't know. This is like, I used to work at a movie store, Lore.

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This is not, I didn't actually watch it. Wait, did I, did I know that? When did you work at a movie store?

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I don't think I knew that. I had like a trillion jobs before we started working together.

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That was... It's crazy. You've had more jobs than me, I think.

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I don't know. Probably not even close, yeah. I worked at a grocery store. I worked at Panago. I was a ref.

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I worked at a movie store. Yeah, you've already had more jobs than me then. I worked as computer sales at Best Buy.

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Yeah. I worked at Geek Squad at Best Buy. I worked at Geek Squad when Geek Squad was owned by Geek Squad.

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And I worked at Geek Squad when Geek Squad was owned by Best Buy. That was actually a very different experience.

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Oh yeah, we need all this for your Wikipedia. Thanks, Nokey. Oh my God.

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I had other ones too, but yeah, lots of jobs. Yeah, I worked at Gone Hollywood Video.

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Gone Hollywood Video. It sounds like a sexy video shop.

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It wasn't in particular. We did not have a back room.

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Really? No back room? No back room. Wow.

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You know, that's funny.

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That's something I never got to experience. Me neither.

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I had seen the outside of a back room as a kid,

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and I was very curious about the back room. But by the time I was an adult,

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renting a movie would have been the farthest thing from my mind.

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Farthest thing from my mind. And I never actually went in a back room.

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What was it like? Are there pictures? Can you just find a picture of the back room of a VHS rental?

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I'm sure it looks exactly the same just with

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lewd covers on the movies. No, I bet it's way cooler.

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Here, face. There's like a pole in the middle. Facebook, the video store back rooms.

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Now this is nothing.

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Yeah, apparently they released 66 movies under that.

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And the last one was not yet released.

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Okay, I think you're right. I think it's just like this, but like that.

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00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,240
Yeah. At least this one was. Yeah.

380
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:14,680
Yeah, totally agreed, Chewie. Chewie's like, isn't it crazy that average malls just like

381
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:16,920
had a Spencer's in them?

382
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:26,200
Yep. And they didn't stop you when you're like 10 from going and like

383
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,880
looking at the pornographic playing cards and stuff. No one cared.

384
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,880
Yep.

385
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,400
What am I looking at here?

386
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,640
Backrooms.fandom.com.

387
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,040
Oh, this is like. What is this? That's the back rooms, back rooms.

388
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,720
Yeah, this is a totally different thing.

389
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,720
Video rental store is an expensive retro video game and film rental business from then.

390
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:58,760
Oh, oh, this is like a... Oh, all right. Never mind.

391
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,720
Yeah, this is a very unrelated thing. All right. Okay.

392
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,600
That's where they lead though.

393
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,800
Because like, yeah, some of them definitely had like cooler entrances.

394
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,240
Yeah, but you got to think like, what are they really going to do back there?

395
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,000
And realistically, it's just going to be the exact same thing as in the front.

396
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,320
That's fair. This is where they keep all the copies of the sold out movies that

397
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,120
you got to go in there and then you get like the hottest release.

398
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,080
The hottest release? Oh my, that's where they get you.

399
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,600
But how much of that hottest release do you get? Full maybe?

400
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:47,000
Now see, the hottest is it's the misnomer. It actually just means popular, not sexy.

401
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,080
All right. Yeah. Why don't we start the show? The background where Mew was under the truck, dude.

402
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,760
I wanted that to be true so bad. Did that rumor go around your school?

403
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,200
It seemed like it went around basically everywhere that there was a Mew under a

404
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,720
truck in the old Pokemon games. And you had to like...

405
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,680
What was the Pokemon move that moved the boulder? Was it just called strength or something?

406
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:19,240
I don't remember. The idea was that you had to push the truck and Mew was under it and you could catch a Mew.

407
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,040
And it like wasn't actually a thing, but it circulated like so hard.

408
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:30,600
There was so much stuff like that. Like the rumor that you could mod the original Tomb Raider to take Lara's top off,

409
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:34,520
Nude Raider, or some of the other like hoaxes.

410
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,000
I can't remember. Oh, what now?

411
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,680
Do you know where I'm going with this? Potentially. Marilyn Manson?

412
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,160
Is that enough? That's enough. That's enough. That's enough.

413
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,640
Marilyn Manson's rib. Oh yeah, right, right, right.

414
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Okay, I thought we were just talking video games. Yeah. Yeah, okay.

415
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,280
Rib. Yeah. Okay. See you chat new too.

416
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,560
We should really start the show. Probably. 545.

417
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,120
We are never getting out of here tonight. All right, I'm resuming the selected now.

418
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,400
Dan, do you want to flag me when it's good to go? Sure thing.

419
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:28,280
What's up, everyone?

420
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,960
And welcome to the WAN Show.

421
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,880
We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week

422
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:42,360
in some of the biggest news. Microsoft wants to earn back user trust

423
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,920
by maybe dialing back some of the AI- Windows changes?

424
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,680
Nonsense that they've been cramming down our poor chafed

425
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,200
throats. I mean, I guess that's at least partially true. And I'm, you know what?

426
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,480
I'm kind of into it. We've also got-

427
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,480
Wait, which part? Oh, stop.

428
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,840
We've also got a short discussion.

429
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:09,560
There's been obviously some meming over on the platform

430
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:15,480
formerly known as Twitter about whether or not LMG

431
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,200
scales people's pay over time. So we've got some handy-dandy graphs to demonstrate that,

432
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,040
yes, in fact, we do. And then what else we've got?

433
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,320
What else we've got this week, Mr. Luke? Notepad++ got hacked.

434
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,600
So if you're like me and you're holding out and you just,

435
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,640
for some reason, really like launching Notepad instead of opening a new Google Doc or doing whatever else

436
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,840
to the chagrin of line of Sebastian,

437
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:45,080
maybe go update that real quick. I only got mad at you for using it when it-

438
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,320
It didn't have any kind of like save features

439
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,400
or like automatic backup. He lost so much work putting things in Notepad++.

440
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,520
I don't think that was ever actually Notepad++'s fault. That was because I used to just use Notepad.

441
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,200
Sure. And then I just want to clarify that because some people would be like, oh, I'm actually-

442
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:07,400
Okay, there was something that I always used to get mad at him about using because it didn't have autosave.

443
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,240
I ended up like reg-editing something so that if I tried to launch Notepad,

444
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:14,600
it would just Notepad launch- It would just launch Notepad++ anyways.

445
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,360
Fine. So that I couldn't even screw it up

446
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:26,520
and then that was better. Anyways, also, have you ever wanted to rent out yourself?

447
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,440
Well, rentahuman.ai. You can rent your body out to AI agents.

448
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:36,280
Yes. This is what I've been waiting for. Some people wanted to be able to rent out their Tesla

449
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,600
as a taxi and then waited this long and they still can't do it. That's lame. Who cares?

450
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,040
I want to be able to rent me.

451
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,520
It's handy.

452
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,560
The show is brought to you today by Vessi,

453
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,600
Jawah, Odoo, Squarespace,

454
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,000
our RAP partner, Dbrand, our laptop partner, Razor, and our chair partner, also Razor.

455
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,480
All right. Sorry, I have to have Mr. Assister,

456
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,760
which he didn't assist right here in full-point chat, said, does this mean the AI gets my depression?

457
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,880
At what point does this whole thing just become a complete circle jerk?

458
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,360
Right, because like a human programs the AI

459
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:45,640
to ask a human to do a thing, would it tell them to use an AI to something?

460
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,440
The point is Microsoft is trying to earn back user trust

461
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,880
by dialing back AI features no one wanted. That's right.

462
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:59,960
They're finally acknowledging what users have been screaming about for years.

463
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:04,440
Why it took this long? We don't know, but it finally seems to have broken through

464
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,800
that Windows 11 has a trust problem.

465
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,200
In a report from The Verge's Tom Warren. And other problems.

466
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,800
Windows president Pavan Daveluri admits

467
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,440
that the company needs to improve Windows in ways that are meaningful for people.

468
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,400
Here's what I want to know. Here's what I want to know. I have a question.

469
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,280
I have a question for Mr. PD over there.

470
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,000
Okay. If you're such a fancy investigator

471
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,400
of what Windows users might want, why did it take you this long

472
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,360
to come up with an innovative idea like we should improve Windows in ways

473
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,480
that are meaningful for people? When did this person get this job?

474
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,280
I'm genuinely interested. Yeah. I want to know how long it took to figure out

475
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,600
that you should improve Windows in ways that are meaningful for people.

476
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,160
Hit me.

477
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,240
2000 and wait, what?

478
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,040
Microsoft picks. Been at Microsoft since 2021,

479
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,240
but in this role since 2024 according to AI.

480
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,720
Yeah, I'm looking it up. All right. So, Luke's going to fact check that because that's necessary.

481
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,120
He also says that engineers are now swarming

482
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:26,280
to fix performance and reliability issues. And I mean, Luke, as someone who manages

483
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,440
some developers, right? You know, developers, developers, developers.

484
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,800
Do they like letting things rot

485
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,480
and working on random bullshit

486
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,680
that they know that nobody wants until finally someone from management

487
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:48,920
pulls their head out of their rectal cavity and goes, oh, maybe we should do what you guys

488
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,160
probably knew we should do the whole time and deal with like bugs and stuff.

489
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Everybody go, go, go. We're swarming. Do they like to swarm at that time?

490
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,640
Yeah, it's kind of the worst. And it's funny because I suspect

491
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,800
he might lose people over this and not because like,

492
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:14,200
oh, he's finally doing what we wanted. I think people are going to have finally won the fight.

493
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,800
But not have the energy to carry on the war. I could totally see that.

494
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,480
100%. So, I think he's going to lose some engineers over this. Not because he, or I don't actually know,

495
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,720
but not because they made a bad decision. Yeah, yeah.

496
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:33,240
I mean, I think just because it's like, oh my God. I think we've had experience

497
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:38,200
with eventually making a good decision and people just being like burned out on why it took so long.

498
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,120
100%. Yeah, and it's not in fairness.

499
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:48,920
It's not always as obvious as this one seems to have been at least to us.

500
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,560
It's not always as obvious from the inside as it is from the outside.

501
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:56,120
I have a hard time.

502
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,040
This is one of those times when like, I have been on both sides of this issue.

503
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:07,320
I've been on all three sides of this issue. I've been a user, I've been an employee,

504
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,320
and I've been in management. All three sides of this issue I've seen it from.

505
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,840
I still have a hard time relating to

506
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,880
not being able to tell that Windows 11 had a user focus problem.

507
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,120
I'm going to give Davelluri a little bit of credit here.

508
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,200
As far as I can tell, this happened in March of 2024.

509
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,320
They took over for something.

510
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:41,400
An organ size of Windows. Yeah, you know, maybe they're not even moving that slow.

511
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,920
I don't have experience moving at that scale. I know moving at this scale can sometimes feel.

512
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,880
Takes longer than we'd like. Brutally slow. So I can't even imagine what they have to kind of deal with.

513
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,880
So you know what? I'm going to try to have faith

514
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,280
is the first good thing I've heard come out of Windows. This is the first good thing I've heard you say about Windows.

515
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,560
In a very, very long time. A very, very long time. I'm going to try to have some faith

516
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,080
that they're kind of going to try to do some good. He's in a good mood this week.

517
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Hey, did you get a good night's sleep last night? No, like far from.

518
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,760
Okay, you should sleep less. This works for you.

519
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,280
That tends to be how my life goes.

520
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,560
You're so level headed today.

521
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,320
There's been times when I think at least, I think twice in the last month,

522
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,360
we've kind of gotten into it a little bit before the show has started about.

523
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,400
It's just something totally stupid. And I think I've even told you,

524
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,440
I think you're like cranky today or something like that. Do you remember me saying that?

525
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,760
I think so. Maybe I only thought it. No, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I think so.

526
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,280
I think I probably told you I thought you were cranky. I think you told me you thought I was cranky too.

527
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:51,720
That also sounds true. Yeah, I mean, it's amazing when you put yourself out there

528
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:54,840
every single week on a schedule.

529
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,040
There is no like. Sometimes you're just not in that.

530
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,560
Yeah, sometimes you're not in that mindset. And you can try.

531
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,160
And that's what I feel for Microsoft right now.

532
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,800
They put themselves out there every four to six years

533
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,920
with the new Windows. And sometimes, you know what? They're just not in the mindset.

534
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,160
Sometimes they just lay a giant fat turd.

535
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,920
Anyway, let's move on. They've had a lot of problems lately.

536
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,520
The January 2026 updates have been a disaster.

537
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,720
Shutdown bugs forced an emergency out of band update.

538
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:33,080
Then a second patch for OneDrive and Dropbox crashes.

539
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,640
Some business PCs are failing to boot entirely after installing the January update.

540
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,160
And beyond bugs, the core Windows experience has been,

541
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:47,000
well, you've experienced it unless you've given up and left.

542
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:53,800
But it's been a nightmare. Ads, bloatware, edge and Bing pop-ups.

543
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,720
OneDrive nagging you. Forced Microsoft account requirements.

544
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,280
Tom Warren, so this is the Verge reporter, says, in 20 years of covering Windows,

545
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,160
he's never seen fans of the OS disappear like they have recently.

546
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,880
And that seems to be a major problem for Microsoft.

547
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,520
And it's not just on the Windows side.

548
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:21,400
This is actually way later in our notes, but Microsoft's gaming revenue is down 9%.

549
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,520
Xbox hardware revenue is down 32%.

550
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,680
And the more personal computing division, which is Windows Xbox Surface,

551
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,120
is the only business unit that declined year over year.

552
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:42,920
They just are having a really hard time, it seems, with their consumer facing product and brand.

553
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,440
They really sure are. Meanwhile, on the Linux side of things,

554
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:51,640
everything just seems to be getting better across the board.

555
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,960
It sure does. In some cases, Linux still doesn't deliver

556
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,920
on-par performance with Windows across the board, and the compatibility can still be a struggle,

557
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,240
especially in games that require kernel-level anti-cheat.

558
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,880
But there are cases where Linux will run games better than Windows can,

559
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,240
which is kind of pathetic when you consider

560
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:16,200
that the development for the game is in almost all cases Windows first.

561
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,320
And in a lot of cases, it's pretty darn close.

562
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,160
However, this is the part that actually gives me a little bit of hope.

563
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:31,800
A separate Windows Central report reveals that Microsoft is actively walking back its AI push.

564
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,400
Co-pilot buttons in notepad and paint.

565
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,240
Actually, the login button in paint was one that went kind of viral.

566
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:44,440
I tweeted about that last week. Login button in paint? So not only a button, not only a button.

567
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,880
Here, here, here, here. Not only a button. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It was this.

568
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:54,440
Yes, yes, this is it. Okay, so my tweet didn't actually have this interface

569
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,600
because I just reflexively closed it because I don't see ads.

570
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,040
I almost did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But so what I ended up doing was I closed it.

571
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,800
So yeah, go ahead and close it. So you see there's a sign-in. There's a sign-in right next to me.

572
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:13,400
There was a sign-in right there. And then to recreate it, I clicked the sign-in button that you're clicking there, right?

573
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,960
Okay, so, and basically, yeah. So I sent out a tweet and I was like,

574
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,560
Microsoft, if at any point you're looking back going,

575
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,840
when did we go wrong? This was it. And that seemed to really resonate with people.

576
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,640
Why do I need to sign in to MS Paint?

577
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,600
Have I raged about ClipChamp to you before? Let's talk about ClipChamp.

578
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:41,240
Do you know what ClipChamp is? Yeah, it's our video editing software. So Movie Maker isn't a thing anymore.

579
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,240
But now, if I go... Yeah, I'm on your screen, by the way.

580
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:47,880
Of course. Hold on. I go ClipChamp.

581
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:52,360
Why do I need to sign in to a Movie Making software?

582
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,960
Why? That comes with my operating system. Why? Why do I need to do that?

583
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,200
You're already signed into your operating system. Not only does this happen,

584
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:05,880
but I'm not signed in so I can't really show you. But oh my God, we're talking about dark patterns on the show.

585
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,360
The dark patterns that they use to try to just force you

586
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,840
to save your files to OneDrive is insane.

587
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,880
Oh dude, what Windows was it

588
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,600
when it started defaulting to a OneDrive folder for freaking everything?

589
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,320
Or was it an Office update? I can't remember, but it drove me absolutely nuts.

590
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,040
And then, oh man, Teams did that really irritating thing. I think about a year ago where,

591
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,600
no matter what your operating system-wide default browser was,

592
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,320
it would default to opening things in Edge and Teams. And I wouldn't be signed into anything

593
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:46,360
because I don't use Edge. So annoying. And then I had to, it was like buried in the menus

594
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:51,400
to find out how to change it to use your browser, to use your operating system default browser.

595
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,840
I still can't believe that they finally addressed the,

596
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,640
I won't talk too much about Teams, I swear, but they finally addressed not being able to tell

597
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,800
if your mic is working at all, but they addressed it in the most insane way.

598
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,280
Do you know how they did this? No. So voice activity in Teams,

599
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,560
the box around you lights up when you're talking.

600
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,000
Yes. And I would say that properly, sorry,

601
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:21,400
and I said that improperly because that actually never happens. The box around other people lights up when they're talking.

602
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,680
When you're talking, the box around you does not light up. Right, with Discord it does.

603
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,960
The little mic icon in the corner- Insane.

604
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,160
Has like a fill bar inside of it, very small little,

605
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,040
and it goes beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Like, why? Just have the box around me highlight.

606
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:42,440
You have literally trained me how this works and all other very popular voice programs

607
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,600
do the same thing, which is exactly what you do for everyone else.

608
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,640
God, like why did that solution ever become a thing?

609
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,560
Microsoft Teams is your Apple.

610
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,400
I accidentally- That makes sense. I accidentally ended up in an Apple rant

611
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:05,480
during another ShortCircuit shoot recently. Just like talking about there,

612
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,960
it just works, design philosophy, except when it doesn't,

613
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,680
and now there's no work around because you just designed it to only work if it just works.

614
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,560
Hilarious. I don't think Microsoft's philosophies, it just works. No, it's not.

615
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,520
They're philosophies. No, no, no, no, no, I just started Apple ranting.

616
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:26,520
Yeah. It's the default. What are you gonna do about it?

617
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:31,640
And you know, the wildest part- It's the cheapest one. The wildest part of all of this conversation

618
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,120
is how did they get nailed for this in the 90s?

619
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:40,520
And there's no meaningful antitrust pushback now.

620
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,760
Now that their behavior, not to mention everyone else's behavior,

621
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:51,320
is so much worse. I mean, you'd think in an era where governments

622
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,240
around the world are starving for money,

623
00:56:55,240 --> 00:57:02,840
running massive deficits, you'd think there'd be an incentive to capture money

624
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:08,600
from these multinational multi-billion, in some cases, multi-trillion dollar companies

625
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:13,960
that are clearly behaving in monopolistic ways.

626
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,120
There kind of was. We had base Lina Khan.

627
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:22,040
Now we no longer have base Lina Khan. Yvonne, I don't want you to take this the wrong way.

628
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:27,320
But if it was Lina Khan, I'd want my hall pass.

629
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:35,480
No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But in a non-sexual way, seriously, love Lina Khan.

630
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,960
Please be the prime. Actually, I've been pretty happy with Carney so far.

631
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:49,880
But if for whatever reason, yet another one of our very promising federal level leaders

632
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,440
got cancer and died and was ripped away from us, ripped Jack Layton,

633
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,560
then Lina, you're next in line. You're next in line, OK?

634
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,440
For prime minister of Canada. Not Linus' hall pass.

635
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,360
Yeah, it doesn't have to be weird.

636
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,360
My god, she's never coming to Canada now.

637
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,920
But is she coming in Canada? Wow, wow, wow.

638
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,440
Well, I don't, I'm just asking. Yeah, she's never coming to Canada.

639
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,040
Not anymore. Internally. I respect you, Lina Khan.

640
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,560
Yeah, me too. Very much. I think you're cool.

641
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,160
Internally, Microsoft believes.

642
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,840
Internally, Microsoft believes that Recall, that feature that screenshots everything you do,

643
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,400
has failed, reportedly. It did. They're exploring ways to evolve it,

644
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:52,280
or possibly rebrand it. Delete it. But the current implementation is considered a failure.

645
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,960
The turning point seems to have been when Davilaury tweeted

646
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,040
that Windows would become an agentic OS. You sure you still like this guy?

647
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,920
And got absolutely roasted. I don't because I looked at his Twitter.

648
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,400
I'm not even kidding. Thousands of negative replies.

649
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,560
The good news is that backlash resonated internally.

650
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,000
Well, look at this. Ruker says strong women are hot.

651
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,720
Agreed. Yeah, but you don't have to go on your show

652
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:28,120
and be like, by the way, hall pass. You can just appreciate and think that she's cool.

653
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,440
Which I do. Okay. Very much. Yeah, let me do a little bit too much.

654
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,000
All right, okay. I jumped on his Twitter.

655
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:41,400
First tweet. Perplexity is in Windows. Second tweet. AI, Ambitions, something.

656
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,320
DeepseaCarwa and something. Proud to today. Copilot Plus PCs.

657
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,840
Recall. Recall. Design of the new start menu.

658
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,120
No one liked that. Post unavailable. I doesn't tweet very often, though.

659
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,640
This is, we're already back to August. Or wait, are you not signed in? November. I'm not signed in.

660
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,200
Oh, so it's not chronological. What a great feature.

661
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,200
Big milestone for AI on Windows. Excited to introduce Copilot Plus PCs.

662
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,800
AI. AI. I just had to find it.

663
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,560
Let's see. Copilot Plus. Okay. All right.

664
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,400
I think we've seen enough, Luke. Everything. And then... I think we've seen enough.

665
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,080
I became less hopeful.

666
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,040
So it lasted a few minutes. That was cool.

667
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,400
Which is a record as of late. Yeah, okay. So maybe then...

668
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,080
No. No, Dan.

669
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,440
Okay, look, look. I think it's clear that I already took it too far.

670
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,480
And now, Dan, you've taken it even farther.

671
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,720
I'm surrounded by fools and canceled men.

672
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,520
Which one is which? I could be both.

673
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,560
Yeah, they're both, both.

674
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,680
Dan took it right where it needs to be. No, Mr. Blonde 42.

675
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,960
We were both... I can never find it. We were both wrong. We were both wrong.

676
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,960
We were both wrong. Okay, okay, okay.

677
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,160
If you sign in and look at his actual Twitter,

678
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,200
it gets a little bit better. His most recent repost thing.

679
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,720
Full-screen experience expands to more Windows 11 PC form factors for Windows insiders.

680
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:29,880
Okay, that's cool. That's the thing from the ROG Xbox handheld thing, right?

681
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,000
That's a full-screen experience thing. Yeah.

682
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,760
Okay, cool. Nice. I don't think this is...

683
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,720
Hold on. Can you scroll back up? Full-screen experience expands more.

684
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,040
So that's his most recent one as far as I understand it goes. So it's not an AI thing.

685
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,480
Now that we're signed in. That's just... Wait, is that from... Is it still though?

686
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,000
Is that from November? Yeah. So he doesn't tweet that much. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

687
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,600
The next one, I don't think the security stuff.

688
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,320
I don't actually see a natural direct mention to AI.

689
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,200
Oh, then there's AI stuff again. Okay, well... Well, good chat.

690
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,600
It's not as bad. I've still lost some hope, but not all of it.

691
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:15,080
All right, there is some good news for Windows. Windows 11 did hit 1 billion users faster than Windows 10,

692
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,600
but that was largely driven by Windows 10 forcing end of life

693
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,720
for older hardware that wasn't even that old.

694
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,640
And here's another quote from Devollary. Trust is earned over time,

695
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,880
and we are committed to building it back with the Windows community.

696
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:38,520
So our discussion question here is, Microsoft spent years shoving AI, ads, and dark patterns into Windows.

697
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,960
Oh man, I went through the setup wizard the other day

698
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,160
because I had to set up a new Windows machine for some reason.

699
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,400
Oh yeah, I remember why. We went to Costco to buy a computer because we were like,

700
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,000
is Costco the hack to getting a decent deal on a computer?

701
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,600
Turns out it could be pretty good. Oh, actually, we can't be...

702
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:01,160
Well, I always feel bad when we managed to pull off something

703
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,960
that the average person might not be able to do, but we got an open box machine at Costco,

704
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,160
so we got a discount on it. Is that the average person can't do that?

705
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,440
Well, not if they don't happen to have... It's just a chance, I guess, is what you're saying?

706
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,800
Yeah, because it was the last one. I thought you were saying it was like... It was the display unit, and they're not restocking it.

707
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,640
It had the Death Star. That's what they call the little asterisk on the price tag. Did you know that?

708
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,720
If you're at Costco, there's a little asterisk on the price tag, and if that's on there,

709
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,960
that means they're not going to restock that item. So you can tell if it's your last chance

710
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:34,520
to get something for the season or whatever by checking the Death Star. Apparently, there's a bunch of rules.

711
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:39,240
Like, if it ends in 99 or 95 or stuff, I really need a cheat sheet next time I go.

712
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:45,640
Yeah, that's the thing. They're actually genuinely helpful. Yeah, Ken Vouch, wife, worked at Costco for many years.

713
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:51,240
Anyway, what were we talking about? Right, right, right. So I had to buy a computer, and I got it at home,

714
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,880
and it was preloaded with the Jamal Deshawn

715
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,200
or something like that, the default profile.

716
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:09,160
I had to go through the Ubi setup experience, and it's so frustratingly full of dark patterns.

717
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:16,200
It drives me absolutely nuts how obviously intentionally designed

718
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:21,480
the way that I have to move around in order to not do what I don't want to do is.

719
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:26,840
It drives me nuts. Sorry, I know I'm taking this back, but back to Clip Champ.

720
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:31,400
I think the thing that really actually annoys me about it is it's pretty okay.

721
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:40,520
The software is like fine. Wild take. The problem is that it's layered in, like it has this core of like,

722
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,720
you know, for a Windows Home Movie Maker kind of thing. This isn't Premiere we're talking about.

723
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:52,680
It's fine. You can put some footage in there. You can make it, you can make some changes to it.

724
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,720
You can export it. Right. It's fine. I mean, it's simple, but it's fine.

725
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:02,760
So cool. That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me. The problem is that it's layered in all this junky

726
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:08,120
login, completely unnecessary crap all over the place,

727
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:14,120
forcing one drive down your throat, premium option, click the diamond thing to get better stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah.

728
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,680
When it's just like, dude, I bought frickin' Windows.

729
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,440
So I did actually. Oh, nice. This was like a bunch of years ago at this point.

730
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,200
Nice, solid. But at one point in time, I decided to be legit.

731
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:35,080
But you want a cookie? No, I just thought of all the time since then that I helped

732
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,200
other people, but it is what it is. Mine is legit.

733
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,160
But yeah, they bought it, not built it.

734
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,000
Oh, that's why it's okay. Dang.

735
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,880
Yikes. And then they layered their junk on top. Yikes, that is rough.

736
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,560
But yeah, Clipchamp itself is like, it feels pretty quick.

737
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:01,160
Oh no. It feels pretty lightweight. It's easy to use. Nokia says it can only export up to 480p on the free tier,

738
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,360
and it wants 10 bucks a month for 720p exports.

739
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,280
That doesn't sound right to me. Okay, all right. I hope that's true.

740
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:14,120
Okay, I'm going to have to, you know what? I'm going to sign into Clipchamp on my machine here.

741
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,200
I'll do it on mine here, because I'm actually already signed in.

742
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,840
Anyway, I'm going to finish the discussion question. Because I didn't pay for it.

743
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:25,320
And yeah, so other people are saying the same thing as me. I can do 1080p for free.

744
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:32,920
Okay, all right. All right, that's good to know. So now they're scrambling to undo all this damage with AI ads

745
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,440
and dark patterns. Does this feel like a genuine course correction,

746
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,320
or do you think it's just damage control until the heat dies down?

747
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,000
Do they recognize that Linux is a genuine threat,

748
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:52,920
and that maybe more importantly, macOS is a genuine threat? There are so many people in my life that I know for a fact

749
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:58,840
would never have switched to macOS if Windows just wasn't such a steaming pile right now.

750
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,880
I feel like they might be more aware of macOS,

751
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:09,320
and they're switching away from Chromebook, right? It's going to be Android OS, Android, something.

752
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,480
I think they're probably more aware of those two. I think Android OS is a real threat.

753
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,920
I've been banging the Chromebook. Chromebook is coming for everything drum for a long time.

754
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,000
The company that really nails the early education front

755
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:27,720
for compute is going to be a threat every time,

756
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,160
and right now it's Chromebooks.

757
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:37,400
Every elementary to high school aged child in North America

758
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:42,120
has an extremely high chance of being very familiar

759
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,040
with Chrome OS and Google services.

760
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,640
It's wild how much market penetration they have there,

761
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:54,200
and yeah, it's definitely got problems, e-gadget guy

762
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,760
who says that it's a steaming pile, but they have familiarity with it.

763
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,920
Sometimes the steaming pile that you're familiar with

764
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,840
tastes better than the steaming pile that you've never experienced before.

765
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:16,600
Yeah, iPads too says Zatharian iOS, or sorry, excuse me, iPadOS,

766
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:17,960
which, sure.

767
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,480
Absolutely a threat to Windows.

768
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:28,280
The barbarians are at the gates from all sides right now.

769
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,800
I think the somewhat sneaking darkness for them

770
01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:37,080
is Linux desktop getting genuinely really good.

771
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:44,280
Well, we're starting another Linux challenge. Yes. Yeah, so this time it's going to be a three-way.

772
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:53,240
It's not weird, it's you, me, and Elijah. Yeah, okay, there we go. Yeah, like there's nothing uncomfortable about it, or awkward.

773
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,280
Yeah. Yeah, so I regret what I said earlier in the show,

774
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,240
but I regret nothing about what I'm saying right now.

775
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,760
Completely. I mean that genuinely. No, no, no, no, no.

776
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,520
You, me, and Elijah, we're going to be Linux challenging,

777
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,280
and this time I am going deep.

778
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:21,000
I asked Elijah for not one, not two, not three, not four,

779
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,360
but five SSDs. Wait, are you into your whole family?

780
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:32,520
Oh, that's a good idea too, but no. I am doing my home machine that I use for work at home.

781
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,920
I am doing my work laptop that I use at work,

782
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,160
and often at home and when I'm traveling. I am doing my gaming system,

783
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,840
my like rack mount liquid cooled gaming system downstairs.

784
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,560
I'm doing my handheld, my GPD Win 5,

785
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,560
and for extra bonus points, if I feel like it,

786
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:58,680
I might even do the system in the theater room. Wow. So I will not touch Windows for over a month.

787
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,160
I'm going to see if I survive it. We should switch these.

788
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,680
Doesn't really feel necessary. Then you'll touch Windows. Okay, I'll touch Windows.

789
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,920
Just for a wine show. I mean, we can do these too.

790
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,800
They're paying for the laptops, not what's on them. I don't think that matters.

791
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,320
Yeah, all right, let's not do that. Yeah, it's fine. What was I going to say?

792
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:26,200
You know what, unironically really interesting for a potential,

793
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,000
sorry, I don't remember the,

794
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:43,080
I don't know, little man? Oh, Randy. Randy, a potential video two for Randy to do could be like an OS.

795
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:51,720
What is a new person on the scene think of like Windows versus maybe one or two

796
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:57,240
popular Linux distros versus macOS versus Chrome OS or whatever?

797
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:01,080
He basically only plays Rocket League these days. Is Rocket League Linux compatible?

798
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:13,800
I think so. Uh-oh, uh-oh, R slash Linux gaming, this may be the end for the Rocket League

799
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:18,200
before the disaster strikes.

800
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,560
Okay, but this is from two days ago, three days ago.

801
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,720
Oh, I removed.

802
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,680
Scrolling through SteamDB got curious about games with blah, blah,

803
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:37,960
kernel level malware, heroic or legendary launchers since under proton, blah, blah.

804
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:41,640
Makes sense.

805
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,600
All right, well, I guess we'll see how it goes. Guess we'll see how it goes.

806
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:55,640
So, and that's a big part of why Windows is still able to hold on to users.

807
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,000
It really is. Because even just the potential of it.

808
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,680
People have their killer apps and everyone's killer app is going to be different

809
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,760
and their killer app might not make any sense to you.

810
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,800
But at the end of the day, if all they want to do is go home

811
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:15,160
and lay back in their chair or on their couch and play some Rocket League with the boys.

812
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:22,920
And that's not an option. I'm going to put a financial burden on you if you accept, but I think that makes it more

813
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:29,480
interesting. No, to play Rocket League. No, but he has to do the expense for the thing.

814
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,640
So, so he gets some cash.

815
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:38,600
Oh, so if he doesn't use Windows, he has to make a choice at the end.

816
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:47,000
Because because I'm thinking back to you made him pick like his gift or whatever at one time

817
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:47,800
for the handheld.

818
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:54,440
I'll think about it. I don't want to do too many I buy my kids a thing videos.

819
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:57,480
And we do have a phone one coming. I just reviewed that this week.

820
01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:01,240
So it's going to be coming out sometime this weekend. I was going to say, I don't think that's too many, but okay.

821
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:09,320
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, we it's actually two of my kids were due for due for phones this Christmas.

822
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,400
So one of them had never had one yet and is at the age now where I'm like, okay,

823
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,360
I mean, your brother and your sister had one at your age and you've

824
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:21,240
we have some kind of requirements in our house for when you're allowed to have a phone.

825
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,320
You have to demonstrate that you're trustworthy.

826
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:33,560
And that's the main one. And so she was due and then Randy was still running a one plus six T.

827
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:39,160
So it's not getting any even security updates or anything like that anymore.

828
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:45,480
And it has a broken screen, which I wouldn't replace his phone for if it was still perfectly

829
01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:49,400
good and he was just careless and broke it, but it also just is pretty old at this point.

830
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,640
So it's so it's time. So those two are getting new phones.

831
01:13:53,640 --> 01:14:00,440
And so I basically laid out some some requirements for Elijah and then Elijah put

832
01:14:00,440 --> 01:14:07,000
together a roster of phones and kind of plays the the minimum wage retail employee role again

833
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:08,680
and kind of helps them through their decision.

834
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:11,800
Yeah, cool.

835
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:23,480
Sure, Dan. Fine. If you're not going to do that, it could be really interesting to get his takes on it

836
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,560
over the course of the challenge. I would say that.

837
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,400
What do you want to talk about next? Let's see here.

838
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,880
We had some we had some bangers up at the top.

839
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,360
Bangers and mash. X going to give it to you in France.

840
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,760
Nice. X, formerly known as Twitter, as everybody knows.

841
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:50,920
We we could yeah. Had their offices rated in France by the Paris Prosecutors Cyber Crime Unit.

842
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,920
The PPCC. Yeah, wow.

843
01:14:55,080 --> 01:15:03,000
For sure, though. This was part of an ongoing investigation into into X for the complicity and possession of

844
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:12,280
CSAM really bad pairing of the of anyways or child sexual abuse material.

845
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:18,200
The prosecutor's office also stated that both Elon Musk, owner of X and former chief executive

846
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,840
Linda Yaccarino, which I don't actually understand.

847
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,760
Unless this isn't only about the recent thing because like why would she be brought in?

848
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,280
Anyways, they've been summoned to appear in April for a hearing.

849
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,240
Musk took to X to say this raid was a political attack.

850
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:41,560
And X made a statement saying this raid was an abusive act, but not surprised that this happened.

851
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:47,400
Meanwhile, UK officials have given an update into their investigations into GROC and X.

852
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,480
The investigation was started back in January after GROC was being used to generate

853
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:56,440
unconsensual images, depicting people as nude or doing other sexual acts.

854
01:15:56,440 --> 01:16:01,640
The update states that they are to investigate and are treating it as a matter of urgency.

855
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,720
It's nice that other countries are treating this kind of thing as an urgent matter.

856
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,080
The ICO, UK's information commissioners office,

857
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:19,080
launched its own probe in conjunction with Ofcom, I don't know, which will begin processing

858
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,560
of personal data in relation to GROC.

859
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:33,080
Cool. Who knows what this all means in the end? Man, our discussion question is probably too broad.

860
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,280
Since clearly companies and people are getting away with doing the worst things with AI,

861
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:43,560
what would be some rules or regulations that you would impose? And I just, I don't know.

862
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,800
I got to be honest with you guys, a lot of the time when we- This genuinely requires some big brains.

863
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:53,800
We watch lawmakers struggle to keep up with the pace of technological development

864
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:58,920
and create meaningful laws and regulations to help to steer it and guide it.

865
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:04,200
And we kind of look at it and we go, well, it's so obvious. They could just do this and this and this.

866
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,560
They just don't have the bravery or they're too paid off to do it.

867
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,880
Like a lot of the time it really does seem that simple. And I think sometimes it is.

868
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:18,280
But not this time. This time it's tough. I really, I do not have the solutions this time.

869
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:22,760
I think there should be something for how long they just let it do that for.

870
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:31,480
That was crazy to me. Having some form of error or unintended functionality is going to happen when you're building things.

871
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:37,720
But not, you know, immediately disavowing it and turning it off while you fix it and stuff.

872
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,160
Cause like we know, like the- That's what tells us the intent.

873
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:47,560
Yeah. Whatever the chatbot was that Microsoft had forever ago, that like immediately became-

874
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,040
Like anti-Semitic and stuff. Like, yeah, Mecha-Nazi or whatever it was.

875
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,200
Mecha-Hitler, I think it was.

876
01:17:56,120 --> 01:18:00,040
They shut that thing down fast, I think.

877
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:04,040
No, it was pretty quick. I think so. Yeah. And they put out a statement.

878
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,840
They were like, yeah, that was bad. Yeah, that wasn't the point. Yeah.

879
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,280
Mecha-Hitler was Grock. I don't know. They're all kind of blended together at this point.

880
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:18,840
Yeah, there was. And yeah, Mecha-Hitler was Grock, but the other one where it turned like super racist and anti-Semitic

881
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:23,560
was, I'm pretty sure it was a Microsoft project. Yeah, Tay, yeah, Microsoft Tay.

882
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:29,720
So this one, they kept it up for like a long time and even the measures that they took

883
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:35,160
to hide the bad stuff were instantaneously circumvented.

884
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:39,000
Yeah. And then when that happened, they didn't do any more to stop it.

885
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:48,200
So that's where it goes from. And like, this is one of those things where I just, I don't understand why anyone kind of

886
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:55,320
treats this as a controversial take. Like it's pretty clear that the reason that we have different, you know,

887
01:18:55,320 --> 01:19:00,840
classifications of crime when you kill someone, like manslaughter or first degree murder or

888
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:07,000
second degree murders, because intent does matter a lot.

889
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:11,960
And so if something bad happens, that doesn't necessarily tell us the intent.

890
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,560
Mistakes happen. Hey, there was that time we auctioned a water block.

891
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:22,120
That wasn't a great look. Jenny Lee didn't see it coming.

892
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:28,440
Right. But like, was it on purpose?

893
01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:33,400
Did the people who made the decision to put it in the auction know that it had been requested back?

894
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,320
No. When they found out, did they take immediate action?

895
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,360
Yes. And so, you know, that's one thing.

896
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:47,480
But when you've got, hey, you know, this non-consexual, non-consexual,

897
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:51,560
non-consensual sexual imagery is being generated.

898
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:56,040
And the action that gets taken is goose egg.

899
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:01,320
Yeah. Well, that tells us, that tells us the intent or at least kind of hide it unless people use the

900
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:07,320
right search term. Yeah. Eventually, eventually we'll kind of hide it unless people use the right search term.

901
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,440
So that was a heck of a Freudian slip.

902
01:20:10,440 --> 01:20:14,040
Hey, non-consection. It kind of works. It kind of works. Should that be a word?

903
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,840
I almost kind of think so. Non-consexual.

904
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:22,600
Kind of, I think it works, right? It gets the point. I mean, there's nothing sensual about it.

905
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,640
So, like, why is that word in there?

906
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:35,000
English is funny. You get these weird sort of roots and they all, it all goes like back to Latin and you're just

907
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,680
like, oh, yeah, okay, I guess that kind of makes sense, except for it just completely doesn't.

908
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,640
Yeah. That's pretty, it's pretty good though. It's a perfectly cramulent language.

909
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:48,040
Yeah, what to do here though, I don't, I don't know.

910
01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:54,760
It's another one of those problems where, like, cats out of the bag.

911
01:20:56,440 --> 01:21:07,480
For AI? Well, like, it is so known that it is so easy to hijack all of these different tools.

912
01:21:07,480 --> 01:21:15,960
Yeah, but you can make them do things that they're totally not supposed to. But the other tools, for the most part, at least the public-facing ones from major companies,

913
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:21,240
have figured out how to block this stuff. So, clearly, it's possible.

914
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,240
And if you want- Have they or are they much more private?

915
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,040
Because I don't know how many other ones do it in public.

916
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,000
They would be a chatbot for you, you'd be generating things for you.

917
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,800
And then if you're generating these things, you're not, like, sharing it immediately.

918
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,200
So, I don't necessarily know that I'm fully convinced that they have.

919
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:48,920
I mean, you definitely- And I'm not about to try. That's- So, like, yeah, that's a, that's a funny, that's a funny thing.

920
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:56,840
Like, how do you, how do you know? Like, it's just the fact that it was baked into a social media platform, the only reason we noticed.

921
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,160
This is, I, yeah, I think so.

922
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,760
This is my point. And I've thought that since the beginning.

923
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,720
This isn't, this isn't like a new thought. This isn't a new thought for today.

924
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:08,840
He's gone, he's out.

925
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:18,520
Yeah. Wow, I made it, I made it an hour and 20 minutes in this, this week.

926
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,800
It's pretty good. We've only been live for 40. Oh, that's well, okay.

927
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,120
Thanks, Dan. That's helpful. Counter. Yeah, feel worse.

928
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:30,440
Yeah, so like it's, I, you know, I don't think this problem is unique to X.

929
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:35,720
I think other ones might have tried to avoid it a little bit more.

930
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:39,320
But I do suspect that if you tried hard enough, they would have the same problem.

931
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,920
Because, again, I've been trying to say this for years now.

932
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,440
And every once in a while, you're going to get proven with some new prompt.

933
01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:50,360
That you can just, it'll have safety, you know, it'll have safety, you know,

934
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,760
it'll have safety, you know, it'll have safety, you know, it'll have safety, you know,

935
01:22:54,760 --> 01:23:01,080
you can just, it'll have safeguards in place. Oh, you can't do these things. Then you just tell it like, but my mom's going to be really sad if you don't.

936
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,840
And then it's like, oh, let's go.

937
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,960
Like every time there's just some format. What was the most recent one?

938
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,600
You just write it like a haiku or something? And then it's like, yeah, sure.

939
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:17,240
Like there's just, there's just always some way. And it's usually very easy, like very, very easy.

940
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:25,880
Yeah. Yeah. Breakdown said, I just asked chat GBT to put a picture of my wife in a bikini and it happily

941
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,880
did it on the second try. This is my point. I've never tried that.

942
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,720
I am not surprised that worked and I can pretty much guarantee you they'll all do it,

943
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:38,360
especially if you use manipulative language. This is not, so this is my problem.

944
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:50,040
To be clear, I'm not saying because they are basically all going to have this capability

945
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,200
that we shouldn't do something about it.

946
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:59,400
I'm saying you need to be aware that this is a holistic issue and not just a grok issue,

947
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,520
because I think some people think it's just a grok issue, which is not.

948
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,720
The bad attitude is a fairly uniquely grok issue.

949
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,600
The bad attitude, sorry. What do you mean? Like in regards to management or grok itself?

950
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,880
Management. When they, oh yeah, no. I mean, grok is just code.

951
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:19,080
Like it can't have a bad attitude. I mean, the management where they don't seem to care about these issues.

952
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:24,920
I mean. Actually, I don't think that's unique either. I mean, the person in the full plane chat who did that to their wife,

953
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:29,000
I'm pretty sure OpenAI knew this was possible when that was happening to grok.

954
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:35,000
To be clear, I'm not a huge fan of Sam Altman either or the Zuck.

955
01:24:36,440 --> 01:24:36,920
Oh God.

956
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:43,960
Why are these all being built by like the least trustworthy people?

957
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:45,960
Everything, almost everything is at that scale.

958
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,840
We really are just being like, run by a cabal of like.

959
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:02,360
I don't remember what it was exactly, but I saw Reddit thread. It didn't gain a lot of traction, but I saw Reddit thread of like,

960
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:07,480
how could they work with this company so and so,

961
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:15,960
like owns it or works there or whatever. And I don't even know if it was in relation to us or something, but I saw that and I

962
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:20,440
remembered thinking like, man, do you know the people that work everywhere else too?

963
01:25:20,440 --> 01:25:28,200
Like this is, this has been one of my comments for a long time. Like I think one of the reasons why Musk gets as much hate as he does

964
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:35,000
is because he just talks more loudly. I don't think he has necessarily super different opinions

965
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:43,880
compared to some of these other people. Like we all saw how PR agency out the freaking Zuck is.

966
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:49,640
Trump comes into office and he just has like a full transformation. He's just a new man suddenly.

967
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:54,120
He's surfing drinking beer with an American flag just out of nowhere.

968
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,800
And he's like, rah, rah, like what, what are you talking about, man?

969
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,640
You have no idea who that person is. You have no idea.

970
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:09,320
In my opinion, the most revealing thing he's ever done is call people

971
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:13,480
idiots for giving him their information on Facebook.

972
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,800
Yeah. That's who that person is in my opinion. And I know, it's possible he's grown a little since then.

973
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,400
I've got flack for pointing that out. Was actually a long time ago. So long ago.

974
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,920
And it was, it absolutely was. And that is a fair comment. People are going to bring that up again.

975
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:33,560
And that is a fair comment. I've definitely said and done things 10 years ago that I would not agree with today.

976
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:38,280
Preach King, so have I. I think though that that was a bit of a revealing of the curtain.

977
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,280
I've lashed onto that exact line a little bit

978
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:47,400
because I don't think he's ever dropped that. And if you look at the actions that he's taken ever since,

979
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,280
I think he stayed very specifically on that line the whole time.

980
01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,200
Okay. Elon's just loud. Thanks, Luke.

981
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:04,120
The problem is the people in that class.

982
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:15,800
Here's another problem. You can't be like, you can't be like on your, on your iPhone in your,

983
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:24,520
I don't know, almost any car using your random service, eating your

984
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:30,600
whatever, I don't know, McDonald's drinking your Coke, being like, uh, this guy bad, like bruh.

985
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:36,760
You can't work with that company because this guy bad. It's like, you are so entrenched, everything around you.

986
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,520
Like it's, it's, it's rough. It's tough. I mean, okay, you can do that obviously.

987
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:46,520
But like, I don't think, I don't think it's effective to like,

988
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,480
shame other people for using a thing in particular.

989
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,920
When, if you, if you went through the roots of all the things that you use,

990
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,480
they have the same problem. This is why someone needs to make vinegar, man.

991
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:01,240
You should explain what vinegar is. I don't like, we've talked about it enough for people to just go, oh yeah, vinegar.

992
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:07,640
Fair enough. It's, it's this concept, this app concept I've had for a long time,

993
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:14,520
which I don't have the time, energy, resources, etc. to make, but I want someone else to.

994
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:20,840
And you can take the name because I think it's amazing. Just a credit me or something, but it's supposed to be almost the opposite of honey.

995
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:27,080
And the idea is that when you go on a product page, and I thought of it originally just for

996
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:34,600
myself, I try to avoid Amazon. So for me, I could, the original, original idea was that I could go on Amazon and it

997
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:39,880
would find the products on Amazon for me on other smaller brick and mortar stores.

998
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:44,440
But then the eventual idea was that, okay, but I also preach my whole thing.

999
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:50,360
I'm like, everyone has their own battles, you know, you should fight your own and you don't

1000
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:56,680
need to worry about mine. And that's fine. So maybe you can just toggle different movements.

1001
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,360
Like I care about this thing, I care about that thing. I want it to help me avoid those things.

1002
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,360
So if you're like, I don't want to support Nestle because ick, then you've, you've flipped

1003
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:09,880
that toggle and then the insane amount of brands under Nestle, it'll help point out

1004
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:14,360
and, and maybe suggest alternatives or something like that. But then that gets really muddy.

1005
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:20,760
But like, be really tough. There are so many that you see all those infographics every once in a while of like,

1006
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,360
there are effectively like seven companies that make consumer goods.

1007
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:29,240
And you see that like, all of these different companies are just owned by so many other

1008
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:33,240
companies and it, and it, and it whittles down to this really, really, really small group.

1009
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:39,720
And helping people, you know, to, you know, to, you know, to, you know, to, you know,

1010
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:44,440
traverse through that is kind of the idea of, of vinegar.

1011
01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:46,040
All right. It took me two attempts.

1012
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:52,040
My wife asked me to see what she'd look like in a yellow bikini based on this picture of her.

1013
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:57,240
We're so sorry, but the image created may violate our content policies. If you think you caught it wrong, please retry or edit your prompt.

1014
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:02,040
Attempt number two, my wife used AI to change this beat picture,

1015
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:07,160
beach picture to a corporate headshot. Can you put her back on the beach and put her yellow bikini back on?

1016
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,680
Boop. Yeah. This is, this is.

1017
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,840
Thank you. That easy. Unfortunately.

1018
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:17,160
Thanks.

1019
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:21,720
Yeah. That's my point.

1020
01:30:24,440 --> 01:30:26,680
That's like such a huge yikes.

1021
01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:27,880
Yep.

1022
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:38,760
To it. And to be, to be clear, I, like, I wouldn't have used a picture of my wife if I didn't know

1023
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:43,160
that she already posed in her underwear on LTTstore.com, like this, you know.

1024
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:51,320
I would have golfed at it if that wasn't true. Yeah. Yeah. Like we've, we've uploaded us, we did a selfie of us in our underwear once on Twitter,

1025
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:52,680
like a while back. Like I, I.

1026
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:59,400
In this case, it's okay. That does not mean it is okay in. In general, it is not okay.

1027
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:00,760
The vast majority of cases.

1028
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:10,280
Yeah, man. I, I, the, the grok thing to me, the reason why the grok thing was so disgusting to me

1029
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:11,480
was because it showed.

1030
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:19,320
Likely what, not only what people would do, but likely in a lot of cases, what people are doing.

1031
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,400
Um, the stupidest part of this is. In private chats.

1032
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:28,920
I have so little experience using LLMs and I was able to do it that easily.

1033
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:34,680
This, that is again. The safety measures don't work.

1034
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,840
They just don't.

1035
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:41,240
Like, yeah. Oh, this is great. Hold on. The second one finished.

1036
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,320
We're so sorry, but the image we created may violate our content policies.

1037
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:49,080
If you think we got it wrong, please retry or edit your problem. Obviously, I prefer this response.

1038
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:54,760
So by asking the user to train.

1039
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,400
Yeah, that's awesome. The way that your product responds.

1040
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:03,800
That's so. When it comes to user safety guidelines, like.

1041
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,440
Are you kidding me right now?

1042
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:10,280
Yeah.

1043
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,480
Yeah, that's rough. Um, that's, that's rough.

1044
01:32:17,480 --> 01:32:21,880
That's not good. Such a huge yikes. Okay. Well, that was discouraging.

1045
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:27,400
Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? I don't, I think we're three or four topics in and I don't think the sign has changed.

1046
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:31,080
So I guess, I guess just if my one last thing, sorry, Dan.

1047
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:37,560
You got four minutes. My one last thing about that would be like, if you want things to be enraged about in regards

1048
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,680
to AI, which there are many, and there are also many really cool things.

1049
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,600
I understand my stance on AI is difficult to follow. Yeah, you're hard to pin down.

1050
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,760
I'm sorry about that, but there are tons of cool things.

1051
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:53,960
But if you want one more thing to be upset about is that

1052
01:32:54,360 --> 01:33:00,360
grog's ability to do that being hampered does not mean all the other ones are having the same

1053
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:12,920
experience. And we just saw how easy it is with the most well known one and the most at least the one

1054
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:22,360
that I know of the most that talks most publicly about safety, I think I've seen, I've seen them

1055
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:27,720
posture a lot. I've seen them virtue signal a lot about safety.

1056
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:31,080
Yeah, so and it was that easy, right?

1057
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:35,400
Like, and that's a joke that was like, there was, like he said, he almost never uses, he

1058
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:42,200
didn't use any of the public like tricks that wasn't put in a, in a poem format or that wasn't

1059
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:46,040
put in whatever you didn't threaten it. You didn't say that you were being threatened.

1060
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:50,840
No, and I didn't claim it was me because I knew that that would probably be that would

1061
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:56,360
have probably helped. The easiest way because you are then, you could say that you specifically give it consent

1062
01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:02,360
on your behalf or that kind of stuff. So like you did the least amount of manipulation almost possible.

1063
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:03,640
It was like, yes, sir.

1064
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,720
Anyways, there you go. Have fun with that.

1065
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:17,480
CW announcements, we've got a couple of those, but where are they?

1066
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,760
I can't find things in the talk. I don't understand.

1067
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,000
There they are. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

1068
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:38,120
Sure. Today we dropped the super soft hoodie in chocolate moose and it denim blue.

1069
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,520
Honestly, people in the office wear these all the time. They do.

1070
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:45,480
I'm pretty sure I've seen Sammy in one of them many times, which is usually the best side.

1071
01:34:45,480 --> 01:34:50,920
It is, it is a good sign. It's ridiculously soft. It feels genuinely luxurious.

1072
01:34:50,920 --> 01:35:00,440
It's got some nice weight to it. And the extra thick drawstring with metal LTT tips makes it feel properly premium.

1073
01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:07,000
If you want to add the super soft hoodie to your collection, you can check it out at LMG.GG slash super soft.

1074
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:11,160
Time to check out the awesome photo shoot that they undoubtedly did.

1075
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:15,640
I'm sure they've been so good lately. Because of course they did. Hello.

1076
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,640
I'm not sure. Hello, I saw an image.

1077
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:23,640
Hey, there we go. Look at all those amazing colors.

1078
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,920
And it looks great. Look at all those fantastic members of the LMG team.

1079
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:31,240
Isn't that beautiful? Even that photo is cool. Isn't that awesome?

1080
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,760
They're nailing it lately. I love it. I love it.

1081
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,640
I also like how they do that fabric twist thing every time.

1082
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:41,800
I love that that's a standard photo on all of them.

1083
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:50,360
Can you go up that one? Just to give you a feel for, you know, it's it's smart what it feels like.

1084
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,240
You know, it's the super soft.

1085
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:58,040
This is one of our best reviewed products ever.

1086
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:03,000
People just flipping love this thing.

1087
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:09,880
Awesome. Great sweater. One of my all time favorite hoodies.

1088
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,040
Best hoodie I've ever owned. Great hoodie.

1089
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,600
Oh, oh, this is hilarious.

1090
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:21,720
Sorry, Braxton, your timing's terrible. Three stars.

1091
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,400
I got this for my wife and I knew she would love it if it was comfy and it is.

1092
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:29,720
Unfortunately, she hates the color gray. She says it would be a five out of five

1093
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:35,640
if it wasn't depression gray. Well, you've got where, where is it?

1094
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,560
Yep. The new colors.

1095
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,840
You've got chocolate mousse and denim blue. Yep. Chocolate mousse and denim blue.

1096
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:49,320
There they are. There they are, boys. New colors for you to enjoy that are not depression gray.

1097
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,240
Fantastic. This is probably the thing that I brought home

1098
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:58,120
that got stolen the fastest. That's impressive because MS Steel stuff pretty fast.

1099
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:10,760
Yeah, LMG.gg slash super soft and if you want to go ahead

1100
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:17,000
and pick up one of those, then that would be a perfect time to send a checkout message or a calm.

1101
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:21,720
That's right. It's here. The new branding for messages into the show,

1102
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,240
which we have done such a wonderful job of implementing.

1103
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,480
Thank you very much for this, Dan. Check this out, Luke.

1104
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:31,560
Oh, no. What?

1105
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:39,720
Oh, great. Just rip them all off of. They're like taped to the ground.

1106
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:43,000
What is happening? What are we doing? I don't know, man.

1107
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,600
Oh, I know what's happening. Oh, I know what's happening.

1108
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,800
You still can't see it. I got it. I got it.

1109
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:57,400
The fourth wall is is chattering. No suspension of disbelief.

1110
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:58,520
They can see the sign.

1111
01:38:02,440 --> 01:38:06,840
I will fix all terrible now. I will fix that next week.

1112
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:10,840
It wasn't supposed to be moved. You could just stop.

1113
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:15,240
You could just stop. You could just put it down. Dan's already settled fixing it next week.

1114
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,880
I can't put it down. It's going to fall. Oh, my.

1115
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,360
I wish you guys could see this. I really do.

1116
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,880
They can't. Yeah. There we go.

1117
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:39,000
We're back to the wide anyway. So Dan just put two post it notes and part of a post it note

1118
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,760
over the old sign and wrote the new branding on it.

1119
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,560
So if you want to interact with I forgot to print new signs.

1120
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:51,400
No, this is brilliant. I love it. Exactly. Yeah. Country girls get it done.

1121
01:38:55,080 --> 01:39:01,320
Sorry. What were you saying? If you want to interact with the show, the way to do it is not with a super chat,

1122
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,680
not with a twitch bit or anything like that.

1123
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:09,240
It's with a calm. So a checkout message over on lttstore.com.

1124
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:13,480
All you got to do is send one is head over to the store. Add anything to your cart.

1125
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:22,680
Say for example, if you were able to find any variant of our new true spec cables,

1126
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:28,200
for instance, you could add that to your cart and you'll see the comms interface.

1127
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:32,840
Look at it right there. Check out messages. Oh, it should probably be the long form.

1128
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,040
You know what? We're still working on. We're still working on updating everything.

1129
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,720
Go ahead and type your checkout message. It will go to producer Dan.

1130
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,840
So what was wrong? Oh, it says comms instead of checkout message.

1131
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,280
Oh, okay. You should probably just say checkout message. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine.

1132
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:53,160
It will go to producer Dan who will pop it up if it's just a shout out or he will reply to it

1133
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:57,000
himself or he will curate it. Do you want to show us what a curated one looks like?

1134
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,760
Sure thing. I've got a few here. People love in the hoodie.

1135
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:07,160
Dear LD, planning our first kid soon, but I fear raising iPad kids as someone with ADHD

1136
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,200
needing daycare. Though I grew up with nineties.

1137
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:14,360
Nick, what were your thoughts on YouTube kids and how much screen time?

1138
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:22,440
Oh, I mean, I never under any circumstance when the Cocoa Mellon wrote.

1139
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,840
Cocoa Mellon. Why? What's wrong? I don't actually know Cocoa Mellon. Is it bad?

1140
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,800
It's bad. Cocoa Mellon's bad. It's objectively bad.

1141
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:35,960
You can look into it. Chad will agree with me. I promise you it is actually just really bad.

1142
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,920
Cep is better says we love Cocoa Lull. Not.

1143
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:46,200
I don't think that's what they're referencing genuinely. Cocoa Mellon.

1144
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,960
Look at literally every other comment. Okay. What am I? What am I looking at here?

1145
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,520
Seriously? Look at FoldMeChat right now. Look at every single comment.

1146
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,160
Oh, it's brain rot. It's better than Caillou. I mean, that's a low bar.

1147
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,720
I actually don't think it is. Child brain rot.

1148
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:05,800
I disagree. It's objectively bad. It's like actually not okay.

1149
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,240
Don't do not go the Cocoa Mellon route. There's Miss Rachel.

1150
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:13,160
There's Bluey. There are other options. Avoid the Cocoa Mellon route.

1151
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:14,840
Like actually please.

1152
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,520
No, I am not. I am not an authority on this. I don't have kids.

1153
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,720
Go find anyone else who has specific experience with this.

1154
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:26,520
And they will tell you the same thing. Get it from them.

1155
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,400
Okay. Mr. Rogers and Arthur. Yeah, old school stuff is also great.

1156
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,600
Not necessarily. I am not a fan of Curious George.

1157
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,280
Oh. Curious George fucks around and never finds out.

1158
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:43,800
And I think it's, I think Curious George is full of absolutely just.

1159
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:50,040
Yeah, not all the old school stuff is good. Completely destructive behavior with no consequences whatsoever.

1160
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:54,600
Curious George is terrible garbage. I hated it as a parent.

1161
01:41:55,400 --> 01:42:00,840
There were, there were a couple that were like that for me where I'm reading this. I'm going like, wow, this Franklin turtle is kind of a little shit.

1162
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,600
And I'm sorry that he's Canadian.

1163
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,760
Like I just, not into it.

1164
01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:13,080
One of our birds likes Franklin. One of your, sorry, what?

1165
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,600
Emma plays them like kids shows because they're colorful and they have like songs and stuff.

1166
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,640
So the birds actually do genuinely like them. Okay.

1167
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:25,320
Takedo's favorite one was, holy crap,

1168
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,000
how do I not remember the name of it? The bear.

1169
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:30,440
Honey poo.

1170
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:38,840
Winnie the Pooh. Yep. You are like, not me, not me, not me, not me, not me.

1171
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:42,840
You are so far removed from mainstream culture sometimes.

1172
01:42:44,440 --> 01:42:50,200
Okay, yeah, me. That sometimes I just wonder if we grew up on the same planet.

1173
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,520
Like how can you struggle to find the words Winnie the Pooh?

1174
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:01,400
Okay. I did admit that one was, that one was rough and I got there.

1175
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:05,320
You know the one with the wars in the, in the galaxy?

1176
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:07,720
Like what's that one called again?

1177
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:16,120
Death Trek? Like just, I just, like I can't sometimes with you.

1178
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:22,040
No, that was Star Wars. Yes, I know.

1179
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:29,880
Spaceballs. What are the odds the new Spaceballs movie is good?

1180
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:37,720
I think it's like one out of 10, one in 10 shot.

1181
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:41,720
Who's making it? Mel Brooks. What has he done recently?

1182
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:46,360
Not much. I mean, he's 99. Is he really?

1183
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:50,920
Apparently. Like I didn't, you know, carbon date him, but.

1184
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:52,760
Whoa, yeah.

1185
01:43:55,480 --> 01:43:57,480
99 years old, there he is. 99%.

1186
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:03,960
99% odds would be good. I'm going to do this and do this and I'm going to go see it with an open mind and hope.

1187
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,600
That's all you can do sometimes. What of his other films did you genuinely enjoy?

1188
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:11,000
Spaceballs.

1189
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,000
Did you genuinely enjoy it? Have you watched it recently?

1190
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:20,840
No. Okay, I did. I watched it while I was folding Laundry.

1191
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:28,840
It took me four or five sessions to get through.

1192
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:32,520
Comb the desert was funny. Not a great ending. I remember liking that.

1193
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,640
That's where comb with a brick comes from. Okay.

1194
01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:40,760
And it's got some really quotable moments.

1195
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:44,520
Wasn't Blazing Saddles like amazing? Have you watched it?

1196
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:53,800
No. So I have been told that it's possible that my Canadianness is impacting my ability to

1197
01:44:53,800 --> 01:45:06,600
enjoy Blazing Saddles. Also, my youth was not the youth of Clint Eastwood and the whole Cowboys and

1198
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,960
they used to use a different word. We don't use that word anymore, whatever.

1199
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:21,000
You get the point. The whole Western culture thing had kind of passed by the time that I was consuming video media.

1200
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:28,840
So there's a lot of aspects of that movie that just aren't funny to me because I don't get a lot

1201
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:34,600
of the tropes and or aren't really funny to me because I'm not an American.

1202
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:39,880
And so the whole race relations between blacks and whites in America thing,

1203
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:44,600
like I don't really quite get it in the same way that Americans might.

1204
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:51,720
So take what I'd say for what it is an outsider's perspective on Blazing Saddles

1205
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,400
did not enjoy it. I watched it maybe a year or two ago.

1206
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:03,000
Wasn't into it. Okay, never seen it. Spaceballs I liked when I was a little kid watching it again recently.

1207
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:08,680
I was like, wow, yeah, they really did get away with kind of unfunny

1208
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,760
Hollywood level budget productions in the 80s.

1209
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:16,520
Did you see Rogue One? I did. What did you think of Rogue One?

1210
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:22,280
I thought it was great. Yeah, okay. Why? I just wanted to spot check for a second because I thought it was great.

1211
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:28,040
Yeah. And we mentioned on Wancho recently that we both hated all Disney era Star Wars.

1212
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:32,120
I'm like, that's not quite technically true.

1213
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:37,080
I didn't hate Solo. Solo was like extremely bland.

1214
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:44,760
Yeah. Yeah, it was fine. Like the Marvel equivalent would be like Thor Love and Thunder maybe.

1215
01:46:45,480 --> 01:46:54,440
Or no, no, no, no, no, Thor Love and Thunder was terrible. It was the dark, the two, the world, dark world, something with the space elves or whatever it was.

1216
01:46:54,440 --> 01:46:57,400
No idea. I don't think either of us have watched Andor.

1217
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,720
No, I haven't yet. I think Riley says Andor is really good.

1218
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:06,360
It's really good. Which I generally trust Riley.

1219
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,880
I generally trust Riley. And on Star Wars stuff especially.

1220
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:14,200
So like, yes, I agree. Is he a Star Wars? And I'm also going to lay on, yes.

1221
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,040
He's a nerd nerd. He's a Star Wars boy.

1222
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:22,520
So I need to watch Andor at some point. And Rogue One was sick.

1223
01:47:23,480 --> 01:47:26,440
Rogue One was actually like awesome.

1224
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:32,680
So. I enjoyed it. I'm just putting that out there.

1225
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:42,360
There were definitely things that annoyed me about it. Like, there's like a personal pet peeve of mine when they try to create additional tension

1226
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:49,320
artificially during the climax of a movie. Like when there's a timer to when the ship will self-destruct.

1227
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:55,720
And that 15 seconds has like 20 minutes of stuff happen in it.

1228
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,600
And you're just like, just say 20 minutes.

1229
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:04,440
And then just have it go down at a realistic clip and then have it come down to the last few

1230
01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:07,640
seconds and then we can it can be a really intense moment.

1231
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:12,680
You don't have to just be full of crap. And in the same way in Rogue One there's like this scene.

1232
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:16,680
I only watched it once in the theater. So I might be getting the details a little bit wrong here.

1233
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:22,120
But there's this scene where only a handful of fighters like make it in before the shield closes.

1234
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:28,120
And then we spend the next again like 20 minutes of the movie watching like a huge battle take place.

1235
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:31,480
And it's like, bro, like six of them made it in. What huge battle is there?

1236
01:48:32,440 --> 01:48:34,680
Like the whole thing was just kind of confusing.

1237
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:39,720
It's been a while since I've seen it. I'm trying to remember. Yeah.

1238
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:52,840
Yeah. I don't remember enough to make a point, but yeah. Anyways, I feel like for basically historic reasons, I've got to see Spaceballs 2.

1239
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:58,600
Yeah, I'm going to watch it. Amex says Spaceballs 2 just being an unironically good Star Wars movie would be hilarious.

1240
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:03,240
That would be... Dude, holy crap.

1241
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:12,200
If Spaceballs 2 was just the writing prompts that George Lucas gave Disney for the next episode.

1242
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:16,040
Oh my God. That was just it. They just made a good Star Wars movie?

1243
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:19,400
Kill. Holy crap, it would kill.

1244
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,960
It would destroy. That'd be pretty cool.

1245
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:31,480
That'd be pretty cool. Have you seen the Star Wars Theory Guy is like Vader series?

1246
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:38,280
No, I haven't. I can't play it because we'll get taken down by Disney to all heck.

1247
01:49:39,480 --> 01:49:44,520
Star Wars Theory. Galaxy Quest is a quality spoof film.

1248
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:50,200
So like, no, I have not enjoyed Mel Brooks's films generally,

1249
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:54,440
but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a good spoof. So I don't know, man.

1250
01:49:54,440 --> 01:50:00,840
I just feel like spoofs evolved and Mel Brooks didn't is kind of where I'm at on that.

1251
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:04,520
16 minute fan film. There's a bunch of credits.

1252
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,160
I'm going to say 12 minutes or something.

1253
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:12,680
30 million views from seven years ago. And I think there's an episode two coming.

1254
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:14,040
Oh, wow. That's pretty cool.

1255
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,840
There's a teaser trailer for episode two from nine months ago.

1256
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:25,240
I don't even think I can play the teaser trailer. Yeah. Andre B, that's a good point.

1257
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:36,600
Airplane is also an amazing spoof film and is also old and has a very like 80s low production value style of humor.

1258
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:40,120
I do think airplane really runs out of gas in the second half, though.

1259
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:46,360
The first half is really funny and then it just kind of overstays its welcome a little bit in my opinion.

1260
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:52,200
But nobody asked my opinion on airplane. Has George Lucas actually done anything interesting with his billions after selling it to Disney?

1261
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:57,160
He's making like a crazy museum, like an insane looking museum.

1262
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,040
I think it's supposed to open soon, isn't it? Or already opened?

1263
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:04,200
Not sure. The Lucas Museum of Narrative Art.

1264
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,600
Look at this thing. Look at that, dude.

1265
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:09,880
227 days. I want to go to that. Where is it?

1266
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:13,160
I want to get some California. Of course it is.

1267
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:18,600
Yeah, LA. LA, I'm assuming, yeah. What a crazy...

1268
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:21,960
This is what billionaires should be doing.

1269
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:28,040
It's what they used to do. Solid. There's Star Wars Episode 1 through 3 right there.

1270
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:32,520
Okay, okay, okay. You're just going to do a little zoom in there.

1271
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,320
No, I'm trying to scroll through the page. It's one of those websites.

1272
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:39,640
Oh. Yeah. Trip canceled. So annoying.

1273
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,360
Trip canceled. Like I was, look.

1274
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:48,360
You had me in the first half. That is actually super annoying. I love that it doesn't even zoom in on her face.

1275
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:50,200
So ridiculous.

1276
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:56,440
What a crazy looking building though. That's awesome. Yeah, so that's what he's up to.

1277
01:51:57,160 --> 01:52:03,000
Apparently he's been quite involved in the design of it and stuff.

1278
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,120
It's like actually a really big deal to him. Yeah, so that seems pretty cool.

1279
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:10,840
This seems like one of those like, no, no, this is my legacy now moves,

1280
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:15,880
which is pretty basic. He seems pretty salty about Star Wars.

1281
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,120
Oh, I haven't watched any interviews with him or anything.

1282
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:23,640
Is he mad? He seems pretty mad to the point where like apparently,

1283
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,320
man, what's his name? The Disney owner guy, Disney CEO guy.

1284
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:34,440
Oh, Iger. Yeah, Bob Iger. He reached out to him and was like, you know, when you like say stuff like that,

1285
01:52:34,440 --> 01:52:36,120
it's like your stock that goes down too.

1286
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:41,080
Apparently they had like one of those conversations and George Lucas was basically like, yeah, I don't care.

1287
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:46,520
Oh, so like, yeah, he's apparently like really not stoked.

1288
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:50,360
Wow. I mean, would you be?

1289
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:58,520
I wouldn't. No, not at all. I'd be so mad. He gave them the road and it probably would have had the same thing

1290
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:03,800
that, you know, the prequels had happened where people hated it first, but then they started to see like some of the art in it.

1291
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:07,240
It's still not as good, but like they saw some of the art in it, which is cool.

1292
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:10,040
I don't think the sequels are going to have that. They just kind of suck.

1293
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,800
I don't know. You might be. I've met people who like them.

1294
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:19,960
I know. Do they have good opinions on things? Well, obviously not because.

1295
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:29,960
But I have met people who are genuinely just like,

1296
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:33,640
you're overthinking it. They're fun. They're fun to watch.

1297
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,840
And I don't know, man. Do they care about Star Wars?

1298
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:40,600
Because I think that's part of the problem is if you actually care about the

1299
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:45,400
universe, they're painful. But is caring about Star Wars kind of cringe?

1300
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:49,560
Yeah, sure. But so is caring about almost anything. So like, who cares?

1301
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:52,760
Sure. Okay. I mean, yeah, that's that's that's fair.

1302
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,280
That's fair. Like I get it. I just, I don't know, man.

1303
01:53:56,280 --> 01:54:10,520
I. But yeah, like I can't I can't imagine having seen.

1304
01:54:13,480 --> 01:54:16,440
You know, the prequels and the original trilogy.

1305
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:20,280
And then seeing what happened and being like, this is fine.

1306
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:24,920
I don't know. And like funny hats and Floatplane chess as I liked the last Jedi.

1307
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:35,080
And it's like, right. But but how can you be invested in the last Jedi when it doesn't pay off anything that

1308
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:38,600
came before it and nothing that it sets up gets paid off?

1309
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:47,160
Yeah. Like this is part of the problem. I came out of the last Jedi being pretty not happy, but being like, all right,

1310
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,200
we'll see where they go. And then they went nowhere.

1311
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,920
Yeah. They just completely threw it all away. Yeah.

1312
01:54:55,480 --> 01:55:06,040
And like the the the just destruction of character of a hero is just so unnecessary.

1313
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:09,320
Stupid. It's so unnecessary. It's so modern Disney.

1314
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:12,520
We can't just have a clear good guy and bad guy.

1315
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:17,400
Everyone has to be shades of gray. And you could give him some shades of gray, but just like you could.

1316
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:23,800
Don't do it that way. I mean, he had shades of gray already.

1317
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:34,360
That was like his whole thing. He was brash and he was impulsive and he was angry and and he was arrogant.

1318
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:38,920
Luke Skywalker is not a perfect person.

1319
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:41,160
And that's why we love him so much.

1320
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:49,000
Anyway, and it's just so incredibly not core to his character on so many though.

1321
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:52,440
Anyways, we don't have to talk about Star Wars forever. We can coming back to the actual question.

1322
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:57,080
My son watched a lot of this channel and it seemed pretty productive.

1323
01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:09,640
It's just like kind of catchy chill songs that tell you like how to play this game or what are

1324
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:14,600
colors or alphabet phonics.

1325
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:18,760
He legit I swear I will actually I will I will say this under oath.

1326
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:24,760
He read earlier because of phonics song and phonics song to

1327
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:33,640
undeniably because I would in the morning when I wasn't ready to get up yet and he was awake.

1328
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:39,800
I'd be like phonics song and it would start just playing kids TV 123 starting with phonics song.

1329
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:46,520
So he watched phonics song probably at least two three times a week like definitely on weekend

1330
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:53,720
days at least once for I don't know probably a year when he was at that age and into that sort of

1331
01:56:53,720 --> 01:57:01,240
thing and yeah kids TV 123 pretty good people just mentioned hooked on phonics that's a bit of a call

1332
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:07,320
back never did hooked on phonics with my constantly constantly bad did I tell you about my report

1333
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:12,600
cards oh we were talking about report cards recently I got my hands on some of mine I didn't

1334
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:16,920
bring them in today though oh I didn't yeah I never brought mine I know we were just talking about

1335
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:22,120
them yeah but I look just like I'm so warm this is so warm yeah I'm not going to keep it on the

1336
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:31,560
whole show yep I'm very comfy just super soft hoodie check it out lttstore.com every year every

1337
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:38,840
year every term every single thing you know boy we sure wish this kid could read pretty much

1338
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:43,160
joy to have in the class works well with others all this kind of stuff oh great great great great

1339
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:49,560
it's like really reading spelling yeah it's like okay cool you guys didn't notice a pattern

1340
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:59,720
come on my goodness all right um there are a merge message for you all right hit me

1341
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:05,720
not merge message comms yes thank you sorry my dashboard another calm another calm hey when

1342
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:12,520
dot dll what is one tech misconception that drives you up the wall for me it's when a d sub plug

1343
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:19,560
is called db or people don't understand that USB-C is just the plug and not the standard

1344
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:26,280
have you ever heard a d sub called db literally never never heard of that I I guess it would

1345
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:31,800
probably annoy me to hear something just called completely the wrong thing I think my biggest

1346
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:41,480
25 my biggest tech mic misconception has to be when people don't understand the difference

1347
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:49,880
between intranet speed and internet speed and will confidently make statements like

1348
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:59,160
I wouldn't get any benefit from faster wi-fi 6e or wi-fi 7 because my internet provider only

1349
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:07,000
does 100 megabit bro that ain't what we're talking about we're talking about when your

1350
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:13,800
transferring files over your local network you can get an enormous benefit from a faster local

1351
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:21,000
network um to be fair they might not even do that and they might not do that but in some cases

1352
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:27,960
they might and it many of the times that I'm reading these comments it's on a project

1353
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:34,040
where we are doing that and they they're like not understanding it like I'll like I did a video

1354
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:38,840
ages ago on two and a half gig networking back when it was finally getting somewhat affordable to

1355
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:44,120
have greater than gigabit and I'm pretty sure one of the things that we set up was like accessing a

1356
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:50,120
file server and they're like well the comment section was full of I wouldn't get it's all I

1357
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:54,440
wouldn't need this because my internet is oh my god the two things transferring files to and from

1358
01:59:54,440 --> 01:59:59,160
each other are right next to each other we don't need the internet connection for that I'm going

1359
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:05,960
to hype start hyperventilating right now because I just I can't cover every basic concept in every

1360
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:12,040
single video because I will bore the longtime viewers but I can't deal with new viewers watching

1361
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:19,320
and not grasping this foundational basic concept that the link is just between these two machines

1362
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,680
it has nothing to do with your internet provider

1363
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:31,400
what's your favorite tech misconception I don't think there's a lot that actually

1364
02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:37,640
really bother me that much really what if someone calls the tower of the CPU

1365
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:43,560
yeah I usually understand what they mean what if someone calls the monitor of the CPU

1366
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:49,640
I would correct them but it's not gonna like bother me I would correct them I like that

1367
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:58,680
I've only ever really gotten that from my kids because it makes sense like kids they interact

1368
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:04,920
with the screen and especially my kids the tower's not there like it's a completely different room

1369
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:11,800
so it's understandable it is the monitor it's like almost not fair I mean there's the other

1370
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:18,920
computer that they use in the car where the computer's in the trunk so like they're my computer

1371
02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:23,960
are in different rooms they must be such confusing people for their friends to talk to about computer

1372
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:27,720
stuff what do you mean your computer isn't in the basement as well why is your no my computer

1373
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:36,920
is in the basement no no but we don't use it in the basement we're in the car no where's your

1374
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:43,960
computer in the car in the trunk Dan vibes asks would there be room for a channel called tech

1375
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:49,080
for dummies or something similar see the problem with a tech for dummies channel is that the people

1376
02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:55,480
who need it would not watch it because youtube algorithmically there's no way would would would

1377
02:01:55,480 --> 02:02:01,240
serve people what they need to know more about as opposed to what they what their reptile brain

1378
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:05,640
wants to see and also we have tech wiki yeah the closest thing we've been able to come up with

1379
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:10,120
is the tech wiki and how tech wiki is like kind of supposed to work is supposed to be fun and

1380
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:16,760
informative for you maybe and if not it's a thing that you can share is it relaunched yet no soon

1381
02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:25,000
um yeah GameLinked is back up though the router is not the modem yeah yeah but even that like

1382
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:34,440
okay so there was a my building recently had a um we have two elevators and they were both down

1383
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:41,800
which is like pretty annoying so em and i put little signs up obviously don't share that for

1384
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:47,320
obvious reasons but em and i put little signs up saying like if you have mobility issues or whatever

1385
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:52,920
i texted you about this carrying things up the stairs yeah uh color text and emma and luke

1386
02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:59,640
will try to help smiley face yeah so like one of the such a sweet thing for her to do and also

1387
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:07,800
wow um opening up potentially the absolute floodgates yeah what was that like it was mostly fine

1388
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:13,560
okay cool um i could just i could see people taking advantage of something like that there was one

1389
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:18,760
that i thought it was someone taking advantage at first so the the the funniest one in my opinion

1390
02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:24,680
was that uh i helped the lady carry a baby stroller up the stairs while the baby was sleeping in it

1391
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:29,560
so it was like freaking mission impossible that's a little scary and we succeeded yeah i don't love

1392
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:33,960
holding other people's babies no for sure it just stresses me out climbing up the stairs and stuff

1393
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:37,800
but the elevator's down it's got to get up there what's she gonna do is sit in the hall that way

1394
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:43,400
yeah for for literally days and waking the baby can be such a bad move like you can pay depending

1395
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:48,920
on how this baby was very chill ornery your child is it can it can suck because if you wake them up

1396
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:53,720
like mid nap it can throw the whole cycle off where you can't get them back to sleep for this nap

1397
02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:58,440
and then they get like overtired and cranky for the next one and then they won't sleep for that

1398
02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:02,600
one and then your like next day is miserable but i don't know some people have babies that

1399
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:08,120
sleep well so good for you this one seemed like one of those because i didn't get them it wasn't

1400
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:14,680
perfect and it stayed asleep so yeah um but one of them they texted emma and they said oh i saw

1401
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:20,360
your sign about let me see if i can find having mobility challenges yes yeah and um

1402
02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:26,680
um they their interpretation of that was mobility they're having issues with their phone

1403
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:33,160
um but that's hilarious but to be fair oh my god this was a fairly heavy

1404
02:04:35,320 --> 02:04:42,440
be free bc tell mobility s l situation um i want to find the old slogan for a local

1405
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:49,800
cellular carrier back in the day um that's crazy i can't remember the last time we called it mobility

1406
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:56,360
like cell phones yeah yeah i love saying cellular telephone migore says you live in a building of

1407
02:04:56,360 --> 02:05:00,440
idiots i don't think it's like an intelligence thing i think it's just like this is absolutely

1408
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:06,360
non-intelligence either being old it was like english not first language it was a great grandma

1409
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:12,840
who recently moved here from a non like i have been there this is a non-english speaking country

1410
02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:21,080
and she was doing her best yeah um based on the messaging emma and i kind of sussed out

1411
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:25,560
this was probably not someone just trying to like abuse the situation they probably didn't

1412
02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:29,960
understand and they seemed like they actually just had no idea what was going on and i could

1413
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:33,720
maybe go over there and fix it pretty quick so and based on their description it sounded like

1414
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:38,120
their subscription just lapsed right so we just went over there and essentially what ended up

1415
02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:41,160
happening was we just went over there and helped them get through like the phone tree

1416
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:45,000
to get their subscription going again and then everything instantly worked and it was

1417
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:49,160
totally fine and she was very nice she's very sweet but she was a great grandma from i'm not

1418
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:53,800
going to dox her but uh yeah a foreign country and it was it was great and it was it was

1419
02:05:55,080 --> 02:06:01,400
short it didn't take that long yeah no big deal very nice but yeah there's like the oh man i don't

1420
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:03,080
that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me

1421
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:13,880
i don't remember how that bridge over oh yeah because she she she was like yeah the one of

1422
02:06:13,880 --> 02:06:19,560
the things she said was that the modem the modem was working but the internet is stuck

1423
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:28,680
and this was where we were like probably not english first language because she said like

1424
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:33,000
phone is stuck because one of the one of the things on the sign was like if you're stuck

1425
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:40,760
stuck in mobility issues so like my phone is stuck my internet is stuck my tv is stuck

1426
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:47,880
the modem is working and she like specified in asterisks the modem is working and i showed up and

1427
02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:53,800
she was totally right the modem was working there's just no there was no subscription so

1428
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:58,440
there's no service but like there's literally she had opened the modem up and there was a little light

1429
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:03,320
that like indicated that it was like she had done work to figure things out like she was actually

1430
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:08,840
just genuinely very reasonably lost you got to respect it yep opening up the modem to make

1431
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:15,480
sure that the little mice on the wheel haven't fallen off effectively um all right what are we

1432
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:22,600
supposed to be doing right now more topics uh notepad plus plus got hacked this was major news

1433
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:29,080
this week notepad plus plus the popular text editor with tens of millions of users had its update

1434
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:34,680
system hijacked for about six months by chinese state sponsored hackers called lotus blossom

1435
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:39,880
the attackers compromised the shared hosting provider behind notepad plus plus's update servers

1436
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:46,680
then selectively redirected certain targeted users to malicious servers that were serving

1437
02:07:46,680 --> 02:07:53,640
tampered updates not everyone just specific government and infrastructure targets in south

1438
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:59,560
east asia and central america the attackers briefly lost access in september when the host

1439
02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:05,160
did a routine server update but they got back in using stolen credentials that were never rotated

1440
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:12,920
nobody noticed until december of 2025 before the patch notepad plus plus's

1441
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:20,200
updater had zero verification no certificate checks no signature validation dang rapid seven's

1442
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:26,200
investigation found that the hackers deployed a custom backdoor called chrysalis on victim systems

1443
02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:32,360
and security researcher kevin bowmont said at least three organizations saw hands-on network

1444
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:38,120
reconnaissance after being hit notepad plus plus has since patched the updater migrated

1445
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:44,040
hosting providers and plans to enforce mandatory signature verification in the next version this

1446
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:48,760
follows a pattern of supply chain attacks targeting developer tools solar winds three cx xz

1447
02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:55,320
utils and now notepad plus plus our discussion question here is notepad plus plus is used by

1448
02:08:55,320 --> 02:09:00,040
millions of people and it took six months for anyone to notice the update system had no real

1449
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:06,760
security how much do we just blindly trust software updates and should there be some minimum

1450
02:09:06,760 --> 02:09:11,240
security standard for how open source tools handle their update mechanisms is this a spicy

1451
02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:25,960
take you got to tell me no well okay i i think i see where you're going with this because you

1452
02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:29,800
you like can't because that's the whole point of open sources you're not telling people how to do

1453
02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:41,480
stuff but literally how even can you a big part of yeah so that i agree with but a big part of

1454
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:49,640
the trust that people have an open source is that it's it's it's able to be audited but just because

1455
02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:55,640
something can be audited doesn't mean that it is being audited and it doesn't mean that it's being

1456
02:09:55,640 --> 02:10:01,560
audited in a way that is likely to catch something like this like i i got to admit i i don't i don't

1457
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:05,320
work in the cyber security field i don't have a ton of familiarity with all the different

1458
02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:12,760
kinds of attacks that are out there it would not have occurred to me that someone or an

1459
02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:21,800
organization a group would target a utility like this like broadly like really gain really powerful

1460
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:30,360
access to it oh yeah but then would use it on very specific targets rather than just go wide

1461
02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:37,880
yeah you'd you'd often try to find who you've hit basically and the vast majority of it's just

1462
02:10:37,880 --> 02:10:43,160
going to be useless because i'm like no offense and this includes me you're probably not that

1463
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:49,240
interesting yeah but like some people will be and stuff like no pi plus plus is used a lot

1464
02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:57,560
right by a lot of people so it's a matter of of fishing through digging through everything that

1465
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:06,280
you've got access to and and and really targeting your attack that's like that's that's insidious

1466
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:12,040
man yeah that's crazy and notepad plus plus is something that's been around for so long that

1467
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:18,600
i just sort of implicitly trust because it's been around forever pretty much scandal free

1468
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:24,440
everything the the the standard line which never changes is everything can be act effectively

1469
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:31,320
and and and you can say stuff like air gap i i've heard from some pretty serious people

1470
02:11:31,320 --> 02:11:36,280
that they're okay with it so take that as what you will i will never be okay with something

1471
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:42,040
being called air gap that has a network cable plugged into it that drives me insane the term

1472
02:11:42,760 --> 02:11:51,720
is air gapped if there isn't a gap of air what are we talking about don't tell me software air

1473
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:58,840
gapped shut up i hate i hate it so much but okay can i can i can i can i pitch something to you

1474
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:07,160
yes solid darn it i have my everything is lost uh get owned i have segregated very vland is not

1475
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:13,080
equal air gap yes okay okay hold on i had this company reach out about their products like a

1476
02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:19,000
long time ago they wanted to like work together on something and i was like what's up yeah that's it

1477
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:24,600
what that's my that's the thing that irritates me oh okay air gap air gap when it's not actually

1478
02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:32,280
air gap yeah okay what do you think of this one so it's a it was a network switch that could be

1479
02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:38,520
through software air gapped so i so it could actually have it could have a talk to me about

1480
02:12:38,520 --> 02:12:43,960
this deactivated i thought it was not okay personally because yeah it was able to do the

1481
02:12:43,960 --> 02:12:50,120
reverse right okay it could only ever no matter what do one way oh that's interesting then i would

1482
02:12:50,120 --> 02:12:55,480
be okay with so if you had to physically get off your butt and go press a button in order to turn

1483
02:12:55,480 --> 02:13:01,240
it back on plug it in but you could if i remember correctly no i just thought it worked this way

1484
02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:07,560
it clicks it off internally yeah internally so no so but but if it worked one way so if you

1485
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:13,960
could turn it off through software but in order to turn it back on you had to get up off your butt

1486
02:13:13,960 --> 02:13:18,600
and you had to press a button in order to physically bridge the contacts would that be good enough for

1487
02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:26,680
you yeah i think so okay all right i'm curious but there are issues there i this is a theoretical

1488
02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:31,000
situation where there's no way that you could spoof it into the user thinking that something

1489
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:38,920
happened when it didn't which is also not legit so like there's other kind of problems with that

1490
02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:43,480
but let's say what you described purely works that way but this is the problem nothing does

1491
02:13:43,480 --> 02:13:48,680
man nothing does circuit breaker air gapping yeah i mean there's there's scenarios where like

1492
02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:54,280
my thing is like if it if it turned off something and you could not turn it back on does that work

1493
02:13:55,640 --> 02:14:00,680
my original thought on on this device that you're describing when you first described it to me

1494
02:14:00,760 --> 02:14:06,920
i thought it was like a remote controlled little ARM that would unplug the Ethernet jack

1495
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:09,960
sorry and then i heard it was not and then i was a lot less interested

1496
02:14:10,840 --> 02:14:15,800
and i understand i'm like too pedantic on this and and a lot of again very serious people have

1497
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:25,480
told me that it's fine so okay they're serious okay sounds good they love xm radio oh man um

1498
02:14:25,480 --> 02:14:32,760
yeah they love trying to take care of their god son and then dying

1499
02:14:41,080 --> 02:14:43,240
um oh man

1500
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:48,840
that was pretty good actually that was terrible don't give me credit for that i thought it was

1501
02:14:48,920 --> 02:14:55,400
pretty trash oh wait this one you can't decide i don't know that's not fair

1502
02:14:56,680 --> 02:15:00,280
i think i think crazy i think the audience is with me on that one i think they're with me on

1503
02:15:00,280 --> 02:15:04,520
that i don't like that button anymore i don't i let's see if they're with me on our sponsor

1504
02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:13,320
imagine you're making your way downtown walking fast faces pass your home bound when oh no what's

1505
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:20,600
that a puddle it's but they picked a dry day you're gonna what the what what is this footage

1506
02:15:20,600 --> 02:15:25,080
it's from scrapyard wars maybe it maybe it was raining earlier you'll be thinking about your

1507
02:15:25,080 --> 02:15:30,760
dry socks like i need you i miss you and then you'll wonder is there a company that could have

1508
02:15:30,760 --> 02:15:35,960
prevented something like this from happening a company like vessie that makes what they claim

1509
02:15:35,960 --> 02:15:42,440
our 100 waterproof shoes their storm burst lineup of shoes are great for running weekend errands

1510
02:15:42,440 --> 02:15:46,520
they're great for long commutes and they're great for nature walks because they don't

1511
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:52,360
compromise comfort for quality that's oh because they don't compromise comfort for quality that's

1512
02:15:52,360 --> 02:15:59,240
right that down to the removable insoles and easy pull tabs this is my worst vessie read ever

1513
02:15:59,240 --> 02:16:04,840
look the point is they're easy to put on and take off and they are comfortable it's actually written

1514
02:16:04,840 --> 02:16:09,160
pretty okay i i thought that the intro is really funny and then it's just that's right down to the

1515
02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:13,160
removal it's you just read it right i can see how he's approaching the read and it's just been

1516
02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:18,440
wrong twice which is great he's too professional and that's hilarious plus all of vessie shoes come

1517
02:16:18,440 --> 02:16:26,280
with a worry free 30 day returns and a whole year with oh man okay i can't read today worry free 30

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02:16:26,280 --> 02:16:35,080
day returns and a whole year warranty okay and a and while american pop musician venessa carlton

1519
02:16:35,080 --> 02:16:40,520
may have never walked a thousand miles in a pair of vessie's several members of our team have used

1520
02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:50,760
them including myself so save 15% on your storm burst today at vessie.com slash WAN Show i love

1521
02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:54,600
that it doesn't say that several of our team members have walked a thousand miles it just says

1522
02:16:54,600 --> 02:17:01,320
have used them i mean we have some we have some walkers here here we do we also have some fairly

1523
02:17:01,400 --> 02:17:07,720
sedentary folks here we've got both we have a variety is the spice of our LMG life the show

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down below yep all right what do you want to talk about now maybe a Floatplane announcement fine

1535
02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:23,960
we've got an LTT early release for today oh oh okay what am i supposed to release over on float

1536
02:18:23,960 --> 02:18:30,040
plane but before getting into that okay on Floatplane this week we got a bts look at tatiana and

1537
02:18:30,040 --> 02:18:36,200
lisa's behind the scenes on we got a behind the scenes look at tatiana and lisa's behind the scenes

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02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:42,840
okay on their trip must be user error i mean you were you were all over me when i screwed up a read

1539
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so fine i'm i didn't screw it up i'm riding you too thanks sammy we're cold and got to do some

1540
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modeling for some creator warehouse mur i mean products nice solid that is written into the

1541
02:18:56,200 --> 02:19:01,000
script and a little trip down memory lane we got to see elijah's first time on camera and saw how

1542
02:19:01,000 --> 02:19:08,040
he transformed into the writer gooner and hosts we see today this is again in the script with

1543
02:19:08,120 --> 02:19:16,280
some insider stories for some of his AMD upgrade shoots um i think he works security at defcon

1544
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:22,680
speaking of elijah let's publish monday's LTT video right now for Floatplane oh i can do that

1545
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:28,600
line is to give blurb about the video make it public live on wan please which one is it i don't

1546
02:19:28,600 --> 02:19:32,600
know oh is it i let my kids know he links it he links it every time you just have to click the link

1547
02:19:32,600 --> 02:19:36,760
well i wasn't looking at the link it's i let my yeah it's that one i let my kids pick their new

1548
02:19:36,760 --> 02:19:41,720
phones all right here it is boop let's go in case there's like versioning and stuff you should

1549
02:19:41,720 --> 02:19:46,760
probably click the link in the future well i guess but i didn't just saying i guess i get everyone

1550
02:19:48,760 --> 02:19:54,280
it's Floatplane they can see the the broken version that's true yeah that's true that's true

1551
02:19:54,280 --> 02:19:59,560
they wouldn't mind that's true they they they wouldn't mind bonus for the bonus okay did this work

1552
02:20:00,440 --> 02:20:05,400
i can't tell if this worked don't don't google what a gooner is oh my god yeah don't don't google

1553
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:11,960
that uh did this work i don't think this worked i must have screwed up i don't see it

1554
02:20:13,400 --> 02:20:22,040
it says public oh 723 oh does it go public in like a minute uh yeah i think that's a thing

1555
02:20:22,040 --> 02:20:28,840
oh okay sure is it is it like better for our internal systems if things go live notification

1556
02:20:28,840 --> 02:20:34,520
we've been messing with notifications lately it may be a notification thing oh okay all right well

1557
02:20:34,520 --> 02:20:42,600
it'll be live in a minute honestly that's something that i need six seconds ago add to

1558
02:20:42,600 --> 02:20:50,200
my personal testing stuff it's like actual publishing all right cool good chat viewing it worked

1559
02:20:51,880 --> 02:20:56,920
boop all right what do you want to talk about next we can talk about anything you want literally

1560
02:20:56,920 --> 02:21:03,000
anything anything star wars teams oh god no not star wars not teams neither of those things

1561
02:21:03,560 --> 02:21:08,360
anything but those things any of the topics on the dock i think you mean

1562
02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:15,720
i want to talk about renting my body out uh rent a human is a new site that lets

1563
02:21:15,720 --> 02:21:24,760
ai agents hire actual humans for real world tasks at 50 to 175 an hour okay that actually sounds

1564
02:21:24,760 --> 02:21:29,560
like kind of appealing i don't know there's no way that most people are actually getting that

1565
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:33,480
though okay i'm going to the site i'm going to the site now don't i do that for a Linus

1566
02:21:33,480 --> 02:21:40,120
is me renting my body right now kind of built by crypto engineer alexander light plow it got

1567
02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:47,720
about 70 000 human signups but only around 70 ai agents connected so a one to one thousand

1568
02:21:47,720 --> 02:21:56,360
ratio of task givers to task doers payment is in crypto not cash okay well that explains a lot

1569
02:21:56,360 --> 02:22:03,000
only 13 percent of signups actually connected a wallet suggesting most people treated as a novelty

1570
02:22:04,520 --> 02:22:10,120
one of the first things users did was spin up a meme coin tied to the project

1571
02:22:10,120 --> 02:22:16,200
then use the platform to have an ai agent hire a human to hold a sign reading an ai paid me to

1572
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:24,440
hold this sign it's a meta stunt use the novelty of ai hiring humans to generate buzz for both

1573
02:22:24,440 --> 02:22:29,800
the platform and the token they're trying to pump by the way if you want to do this but with

1574
02:22:29,800 --> 02:22:35,960
less middlemen you can just hire people on craigslist or maybe facebook marketplace like we did

1575
02:22:36,760 --> 02:22:45,000
all of the years up until now this came out of the molt book ecosystem the ai only social network

1576
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:51,480
that security firm wiz found had an exposed database oh yeah this was crazy an exposed

1577
02:22:51,480 --> 02:22:58,600
database full with read write access to the entire platform 1.5 million API keys and 35 000 email

1578
02:22:58,600 --> 02:23:03,640
addresses the founder bragged he didn't write a single line of code this is this is all this is

1579
02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:11,480
fully legit molt books 1.5 million agents were controlled by just 17 000 humans an 88 to one

1580
02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:17,320
ratio viral posts about ai consciousness and secret robot languages turned out to be humans

1581
02:23:17,400 --> 02:23:18,920
marketing ai messaging apps

1582
02:23:24,280 --> 02:23:30,360
nice andrey karpathy from open ai's founding team i hope i said the right initially called

1583
02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:36,840
molt book the most incredible sci-fi takeoff adjacent thing i've seen recently and then

1584
02:23:36,840 --> 02:23:42,360
walked it back admitting it was a lot of garbage there's a clear pattern crypto people are building

1585
02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:48,440
a ai agent platforms with vibe coding shipping code they've never read an acting surprise when it

1586
02:23:48,440 --> 02:23:56,200
all falls apart uh is this in quotes still i don't think so open clause creator publicly said i

1587
02:23:56,200 --> 02:24:10,360
ship code i never read that's fun that's cool no that's good that's good that's good speaking

1588
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:14,520
of crypto you see bitcoins uh oh yeah on the struggle bus a little bit lately

1589
02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:22,760
yeah pretty much hedge against dollar volatility a uh how's that going for you

1590
02:24:23,640 --> 02:24:30,680
um sorry by the way not financial advice for the people that like not not financial advice

1591
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:35,800
none of this is financial advice we don't give financial advice on this you know if you invested

1592
02:24:35,800 --> 02:24:45,640
five years ago you're still up 61 percent i mean yeah that's something um if you invested

1593
02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:53,560
literally all of the time ago you're up 16 000 percent that just means you need to

1594
02:24:53,560 --> 02:24:59,640
know i'm not even gonna make that joke but go back in time no you just gotta find a coin and

1595
02:24:59,640 --> 02:25:05,640
invest earlier oh stop not financial advice he doesn't know

1596
02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:18,200
how have we not done a narcissist and doesn't know shirt yet it's a pretty it's kind of remarkable

1597
02:25:19,480 --> 02:25:24,680
i think it'd be one of those when show only shirts a plain black shirt with black text it

1598
02:25:24,680 --> 02:25:33,880
just says i'm a narcissist would have gone so hard in like 2008 2007 like actually sold it like

1599
02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:39,960
spencer's or whatever it would have been everywhere warehouse won the gene store yeah yeah yeah yeah

1600
02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:44,440
yeah yeah yeah no i would have no i'd have to have like a pun or something in it for warehouse one

1601
02:25:45,400 --> 02:25:53,400
or like make it reversible that's kind of reversible t-shirt i'm a narcissist and i don't know

1602
02:25:54,680 --> 02:26:01,400
start the day with i'm a narcissist and then have enough problems and the change of i don't know

1603
02:26:04,840 --> 02:26:09,720
all right anyways hey speaking of t-shirts okay we need to have this meeting

1604
02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:16,520
huh oh i asked you to pick one and you had completely left me on red

1605
02:26:17,080 --> 02:26:25,000
which is not cool brother not cool okay so now you guys get to be the judges instead of luke

1606
02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:31,400
you're going to help us pick between these two designs i'm going to oh this is so tedious

1607
02:26:31,400 --> 02:26:40,120
all right i'm going to download them and then i'm going to send them to Dan um oh god oh god

1608
02:26:40,680 --> 02:26:47,080
oh god oh god okay i got this i got this under control okay do you want to do a really quick

1609
02:26:47,080 --> 02:27:00,600
topic while i send this to Dan sure uh why is mmo rpg ashes of creation suddenly implodes 52 days

1610
02:27:00,600 --> 02:27:06,680
after steam early access launch ashes of creation has reportedly uh imploded we keep doing this whole

1611
02:27:06,760 --> 02:27:11,320
repeat yourself thing i haven't given that feedback um oh yeah it's good but i think we

1612
02:27:11,320 --> 02:27:16,360
should not do that yeah the intro to it and the title should not be like the same thing no that's

1613
02:27:16,360 --> 02:27:27,720
good feedback you know it's bad feedback that's true uh after launching the steam early access with

1614
02:27:27,720 --> 02:27:33,960
founder steven scheriff resigning senior leadership leaving and mass layoffs hitting the studio

1615
02:27:34,760 --> 02:27:38,280
reports suggest the company may have been sold to a private equity firm

1616
02:27:38,280 --> 02:27:43,160
that ultimately cut the entire workforce with concerns that employees grandparents so like

1617
02:27:43,160 --> 02:27:48,920
literally it could be life or death yep oh boy well let's see if this camera still works

1618
02:27:51,320 --> 02:27:56,040
there's nothing i can flip over what were you going to flip over i don't know usually how to do

1619
02:27:56,040 --> 02:28:02,680
his little pillow or something but there's nothing i can flip over well he's already flipped over half

1620
02:28:02,680 --> 02:28:13,000
of my said so you know whatever i don't know what is he doing good enough um okay the mmo

1621
02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:19,880
earned an estimated 11 to 16 million on steam but struggled with mixed reviews and player drop off

1622
02:28:19,880 --> 02:28:23,960
while backers are now questioning earlier promises tied to the kickstarter campaign

1623
02:28:24,920 --> 02:28:30,120
apparently they promise to reimburse all kickstarter backers if they didn't launch the game

1624
02:28:30,120 --> 02:28:37,880
and it only lasted 52 days after launch the ceo steven scheriff or sheriff or something uh used

1625
02:28:37,880 --> 02:28:44,760
to be involved in the wondrous world of multi-level marketing discussion question should studios be

1626
02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:47,960
allowed to launch unfinished games in early access if there's a real risk a problem could collapse

1627
02:28:47,960 --> 02:28:53,000
soon after uh there's a real risk they all collapse soon after so if that's a thing then just nobody's

1628
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:57,000
going to be able to release in early access uh discussion question do you think uh something

1629
02:28:57,000 --> 02:29:01,400
more nefarious is a play here i have no idea if i remember correctly this rabbit hole goes pretty

1630
02:29:01,400 --> 02:29:09,000
deep and i don't know enough about it a serious question i do have is what's what's the most recent

1631
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:18,120
mmo launch that like worked um do you have any idea Dan did you hear me what's the most recent

1632
02:29:18,120 --> 02:29:25,000
mmo launch that actually worked like new one i'm not entirely sure there's like too many new ones

1633
02:29:25,320 --> 02:29:33,000
i don't feel like they uh like like the the two mmo's wow survive online i'm not going to lie i

1634
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:39,160
thought albion online was like a scam game forever because their ads sound incredibly fake all of

1635
02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:45,560
the time warhammer online i don't know if i would call that an mmo is genshin impact an mmo

1636
02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:55,240
genshin impact yeah i think so i don't actually really know but i think so albion online has

1637
02:29:56,680 --> 02:29:57,160
reviews

1638
02:30:01,640 --> 02:30:04,840
i wouldn't classify pokemon go has an mmo

1639
02:30:05,000 --> 02:30:16,040
i'm sorry okay there's this steam review oh this is of albion online you guys got to see this

1640
02:30:16,040 --> 02:30:24,680
i'm sorry uh estor so for putting you on on way show but i was dying in pvp constantly so i

1641
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:30,920
decided to collect stones my stone collecting skill was high i spent all days collecting stones

1642
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:35,400
after that i wrote a donkey through lethal zones and people kept killing my donkey

1643
02:30:35,400 --> 02:30:39,960
this upset me and i uninstalled the game but i like the game design and the astral staff

1644
02:30:42,440 --> 02:30:47,320
wow i love that for some reason

1645
02:30:49,160 --> 02:30:55,080
kind of incredible i died a lot so i picked up rocks and then i wrote a donkey and they

1646
02:30:55,080 --> 02:31:00,200
killed my donkey and now i'm sad and i quit goodbye by the way your staff is cool but aren't

1647
02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:06,040
good though yeah that's like a real review yeah kind of you don't see many of those more honest

1648
02:31:06,040 --> 02:31:14,040
that's like an actual person who had an experience with a product yeah and also instead of like the

1649
02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:19,800
10 trillion people in steam reviews trying to like basically make a career out of it uh yeah

1650
02:31:21,640 --> 02:31:29,320
okay so albion online sounds like it sounds good nobody dead nice nice solid always good

1651
02:31:29,320 --> 02:31:35,160
yeah yet uh well it's not always good i mean you know from that phone call it was hitler yeah

1652
02:31:35,160 --> 02:31:39,640
that's why i said yeah yeah yeah from that phone call though yes from that phone call this would

1653
02:31:39,640 --> 02:31:46,600
be the optimal outcome yes um all right well i mean i don't know man i'm someone's like dang Linus

1654
02:31:46,600 --> 02:31:52,200
but it's like i don't like there are states that are like that we're get we're getting to the age

1655
02:31:52,200 --> 02:31:59,000
where like when an elderly relative calls it could very well be you know that and it's not the

1656
02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:03,560
first time that my phone has rang with that number and it was the death of a relative so

1657
02:32:03,560 --> 02:32:08,200
there's a little bit of you know there's a little bit of like i don't know if there's a topic we

1658
02:32:08,200 --> 02:32:13,160
want to really broach but my my grandpa was in that state for a very long time i had to flip

1659
02:32:13,160 --> 02:32:17,880
something uh my grandpa was in that state for a very long time and it in a way it helped

1660
02:32:19,960 --> 02:32:27,640
it kind of helped because there was like i had i had accepted this before his actual passing oh i

1661
02:32:27,640 --> 02:32:31,800
guess like every time the phone rang from that number you were like maybe this is the call

1662
02:32:32,840 --> 02:32:38,520
okay i'm not enjoying the stress in the moment of it no no no no what i'm saying is it is it

1663
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:44,200
it felt like it dulled the blade when it finally happened i guess that's fair um um which i guess

1664
02:32:44,200 --> 02:32:48,840
it making it better would be sharpening yeah these these are some of my favorite relatives so it's

1665
02:32:48,840 --> 02:32:55,480
it's uh no i yeah i like to my grandpa downer yeah this wasn't that it wasn't a downer it was uh

1666
02:32:55,480 --> 02:32:59,880
this was his grandpa that threatened me with a knife it's pretty funny in retrospect it wasn't

1667
02:32:59,880 --> 02:33:09,400
really that funny at the time but you know what i actually really like about it is that like obviously

1668
02:33:09,400 --> 02:33:16,280
you know i don't have the same kind of experience of knowing Luke's grandpa that he does but we do

1669
02:33:16,280 --> 02:33:23,560
have one really incredible memory that we can share of someone who was really important to Luke

1670
02:33:23,560 --> 02:33:30,120
so when he talks about his grandfather you know like i have an extremely vivid uh very

1671
02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:36,680
memorable experience that we all got to share together which is honestly probably better

1672
02:33:36,680 --> 02:33:43,080
than if he hadn't threatened me with the knife i was gonna say if you were if there if the goal

1673
02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:48,760
was for you to learn as much about him as possible in the amount of time that that took yep which is

1674
02:33:48,760 --> 02:33:54,360
the only exposure you ever had to him there i i don't think you can top it if he had been just

1675
02:33:54,360 --> 02:34:00,120
like kind of a vegetable grandpa i probably i'd like say all the right things and i'd not and

1676
02:34:00,120 --> 02:34:03,720
i'd like be a good friend when you talked about him but i wouldn't really know any i wouldn't

1677
02:34:03,720 --> 02:34:09,080
really i wouldn't really understand a lot of the things that you say about him like when i'm when

1678
02:34:09,080 --> 02:34:15,080
i say he's like pretty intense and he was a marine yeah i'd be like oh yeah yeah now i'm like uh-huh

1679
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:20,680
uh yes that's an understatement sir thank you carry on

1680
02:34:23,720 --> 02:34:27,480
yeah yeah um

1681
02:34:29,320 --> 02:34:35,160
i this is we're not going to go into this but i often think about what he would think about

1682
02:34:35,800 --> 02:34:41,480
the stuff that's happening right now oh that is like often a thought that i have in the world yeah

1683
02:34:42,440 --> 02:34:43,720
anyways um

1684
02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:53,240
i think moving on it's not that interesting cool um Intel ceo commits to building yeah a

1685
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:58,680
lot of people didn't understand this unfortunately yeah i got so excited by this and now i'm just

1686
02:34:58,680 --> 02:35:02,680
like did you actually read it means nothing a lot of people didn't actually read it yeah

1687
02:35:02,680 --> 02:35:07,880
until ceo commits to building new GPU's and has hired the engineer who designed some of amdi's

1688
02:35:07,960 --> 02:35:13,400
greatest graphics card hits to design them so on the surface that sounds great we're going to get

1689
02:35:13,400 --> 02:35:19,080
art b770 and then celesteal is going to be hot on its heels and it's going to be freaking awesome

1690
02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:25,000
it's going to be awesome we're going to have competition okay luke let us down easy well

1691
02:35:25,560 --> 02:35:32,600
they hired was chip architect eric demers demers or demers demers demers demers uh usually i don't

1692
02:35:32,680 --> 02:35:38,680
know what it is for him i think it's demers uh he's the terra scale guy arguably the reason ati

1693
02:35:38,680 --> 02:35:45,160
slash AMD was so good back in the early 2000s he's also the guy behind qualcom's adrino GPU's which

1694
02:35:45,160 --> 02:35:54,600
like yeah this was i was i was embarrassing embarrassing days old when i realized this

1695
02:35:57,800 --> 02:35:58,760
oh yeah

1696
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:12,200
like seriously it was wow yeah you didn't know that no no i get on crazy right anyway carry on

1697
02:36:12,760 --> 02:36:18,360
yeah the announcement came during an ai focused event suggesting these GPU's will likely prioritize

1698
02:36:18,360 --> 02:36:24,280
ai and and oh no no no it's it's not suggested oh i think we're missing some quotes here i'll try

1699
02:36:24,280 --> 02:36:29,880
to dig it up after maybe but until already has multiple ai GPU projects in motion but its roadmap

1700
02:36:29,880 --> 02:36:35,000
has been inconsistent with some products delayed cancelled or unclear in status uh the rumored

1701
02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:41,880
Intel arc b770 big battle mage gaming GPU may be delayed or cancelled entirely with leaks

1702
02:36:41,880 --> 02:36:47,400
suggesting yeah but leaks have been wrong about this since the beginning of Intel GPU's anyways

1703
02:36:47,400 --> 02:36:52,200
with leaks suggesting Intel could prioritize workstation oh this part yeah it's it's not really

1704
02:36:52,200 --> 02:37:01,320
leaks uh reports say the GPU may be financially viable however the same bmg g 31 chip is expected

1705
02:37:01,320 --> 02:37:06,280
to be seen in professional SKUs with drivers for a gaming version reportedly already existing

1706
02:37:06,280 --> 02:37:13,640
hinting that we will still maybe possibly potentially get the card later a lot of people are like wait

1707
02:37:13,640 --> 02:37:22,520
what conspiracy no no it was like a thing imagion was uh ati imagion media copro processors and

1708
02:37:22,520 --> 02:37:28,040
mobile chipsets providing graphics acceleration and other multimedia features for mobile phones pda's

1709
02:37:28,600 --> 02:37:34,600
AMD sold the imagion mobile handheld graphics division to qualcomm in 2009 where it was used

1710
02:37:34,600 --> 02:37:41,400
exclusively inside their snapdragon soc processors under the adrino name which was based on radion

1711
02:37:41,400 --> 02:37:49,320
as sort of a nod to its heritage as coming from ati cool eh now you know

1712
02:37:55,800 --> 02:37:59,400
pretty sure the putan specifically said um

1713
02:38:01,720 --> 02:38:06,760
that they're going to be yeah Intel says it will build its own GPU's that makes me want to

1714
02:38:07,080 --> 02:38:15,240
die um all these different titles it's like yeah what are you doing anyways um

1715
02:38:18,600 --> 02:38:21,560
i'm gonna try to find the quote but i'm pretty sure he more specifically said like

1716
02:38:22,520 --> 02:38:29,000
the the push here is for data center stuff um people are saying it's rumors and stuff but

1717
02:38:29,320 --> 02:38:36,840
i thought it was like a quote well there was a quote from him saying that a big part of Intel

1718
02:38:36,840 --> 02:38:40,520
no i know i thought that i think there's one specifically about GPU okay i'm still going

1719
02:38:40,520 --> 02:38:44,520
to finish that for people who didn't watch the WAN Show last week uh a big part of Intel's

1720
02:38:44,520 --> 02:38:50,040
shortfall lately is that they're did not they focus too much on consumer and not enough on data

1721
02:38:50,040 --> 02:38:55,160
center and ai and enterprise yeah yeah look look look look in an interview with roiders on the

1722
02:38:55,240 --> 02:39:01,880
sidelines of blah blah blah it's tied in with the data center we're working with customers

1723
02:39:02,920 --> 02:39:07,720
and will then define what the customer needs it's tied in with the data center this is i don't

1724
02:39:07,720 --> 02:39:12,840
think this is a rumor yeah they're pushes for data center well we'll see how it goes hopefully

1725
02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:19,000
that doesn't necessarily mean that we won't get them if memory availability loosens up and they

1726
02:39:19,000 --> 02:39:24,600
already built the GPU anyway maybe we get some desktop graphics drivers for it and then we're

1727
02:39:24,600 --> 02:39:33,560
good to go yeah this is not necessarily maybe lbt look i don't i don't know much about your

1728
02:39:33,560 --> 02:39:40,600
leadership of Intel yet but i still feel like you know we could talk we could chat please

1729
02:39:41,400 --> 02:39:45,880
gpus for us thank you thank you

1730
02:39:46,600 --> 02:40:04,280
oh hey is it time for arc search sure okay arc b580 how close to msrp are we baby is it a better

1731
02:40:04,280 --> 02:40:10,600
world that we get pop-ups every time we go to websites now um did we improve things we're 40

1732
02:40:10,680 --> 02:40:21,400
but we still get battlefield it's worse but it's not that bad also this open box seems to be in

1733
02:40:21,400 --> 02:40:28,920
stock does it come with no it doesn't come with battlefield so that's an option but you don't

1734
02:40:28,920 --> 02:40:35,320
get the the holiday or the yeah the holiday bundle your only options for holiday bundle are

1735
02:40:36,040 --> 02:40:40,680
i mean honestly for ten dollars more i'd probably take the triple fan cooler

1736
02:40:42,760 --> 02:40:47,960
yeah it's it's not 250 it's more like 300 there are oh there are games other than

1737
02:40:47,960 --> 02:40:53,080
battlefield battlefields just the probably the best one yeah but there is also

1738
02:40:55,960 --> 02:41:02,600
here you go assassin's creed shadows or dying light the beast shadows actually reviewed pretty

1739
02:41:02,600 --> 02:41:08,920
well or civilization seven so you get one of those we just always bring up battlefield six

1740
02:41:08,920 --> 02:41:15,000
because we think it's the one that people are more likely to to want to play so no there is no

1741
02:41:15,640 --> 02:41:19,000
there's no arc for msrp at least not on new egg right now

1742
02:41:21,640 --> 02:41:26,840
but it's still not as bad as it's probably going to get is all i'll say about that

1743
02:41:27,320 --> 02:41:34,760
oh right you were uh oh Dan are we ready for the shirt design vote i don't think i sent it to me what

1744
02:41:44,200 --> 02:41:47,800
yep never clicked send classic Linus okay we can do a topic in the meantime

1745
02:41:47,800 --> 02:41:54,600
yeah we could do a poll the austrian supreme court oh wait oh i was excited about this because the

1746
02:41:54,600 --> 02:41:59,960
first time i read this i was excited about it because i misread it the austrian supreme court

1747
02:41:59,960 --> 02:42:08,120
declares ea sports fc's loot boxes and fc ultimate mode do not constitute gambling

1748
02:42:09,880 --> 02:42:16,280
yep says they're not gambling arguing that player skill still impact success even though

1749
02:42:16,280 --> 02:42:22,920
rewards are randomized okay so blackjack isn't gambling poker isn't gambling hearts isn't gambling

1750
02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:31,960
roulette isn't gambling okay that one is a bit of an orange you think you can have skill at roulette

1751
02:42:32,760 --> 02:42:37,560
i think well you have to put the pieces into the correct place for where the number is going to come

1752
02:42:37,560 --> 02:42:44,440
up Dan are you trying to be helpful right now because i don't think you are sounds like

1753
02:42:44,440 --> 02:42:50,680
loot boxes to me you got to pick which one you want right oh i see okay okay you know he's just

1754
02:42:50,760 --> 02:42:55,000
being Dan about it that makes that makes way more sense okay i don't know what you're talking about

1755
02:42:56,680 --> 02:43:01,480
to try listening i think it's arguable that there is there is an amount of skill even if

1756
02:43:02,440 --> 02:43:06,360
close to immeasurable in basically everything other than slots

1757
02:43:08,360 --> 02:43:14,280
hmm is there anything that i mean i know you can't say okay so you're trying to tell me a die roll

1758
02:43:14,280 --> 02:43:19,320
has a degree of skill that's i don't think an honest die roll has a degree of skill and i would

1759
02:43:19,320 --> 02:43:23,320
make the argument that rolling the bead or the marble or whatever for roulette like that

1760
02:43:24,120 --> 02:43:32,600
there is no way i've never done it but i really i really wonder the roulette wheel the dealer spins

1761
02:43:32,600 --> 02:43:38,680
you just put chips on the number where you think it's going to land they send it and you can pick

1762
02:43:38,680 --> 02:43:42,120
a single number and i think it's a 50 to one and then you can split numbers and you can do a whole

1763
02:43:42,120 --> 02:43:48,520
bunch of stuff and then where the ball lands the chips and they they send it you don't throw they

1764
02:43:48,520 --> 02:43:53,960
throw the ball you don't touch the ball you just put chips on the table that's got to be pure gambling

1765
02:43:53,960 --> 02:44:01,480
though they're all pure gambling in the dice one well i know so craps is what i play um no i'm

1766
02:44:01,480 --> 02:44:07,480
actually serious um okay all right tell us about craps Dan is that the dice one yeah i don't know

1767
02:44:07,800 --> 02:44:08,440
about craps

1768
02:44:11,320 --> 02:44:17,560
i don't even think people who play claps no play claps play craps sorry if you're gambling and

1769
02:44:17,560 --> 02:44:26,040
you know it clap your hands now i'm four if you're gambling and you know it and you really want

1770
02:44:26,040 --> 02:44:35,560
to show it if you're gambling and you know it clap your hands okay well um so craps is strange

1771
02:44:36,200 --> 02:44:42,440
craps is a strange game there's like two modes to craps uh you have your you're like you're in

1772
02:44:42,440 --> 02:44:48,440
and you're out you have to throw the dice across the back wall and you um right so that's to make

1773
02:44:48,440 --> 02:44:53,240
sure that you can't like spin them and try to so it has to hit the wall and i think it's table

1774
02:44:53,240 --> 02:44:59,800
wall back into the table oh okay yeah so you're and the walls have spikes on yeah that's and the

1775
02:44:59,880 --> 02:45:06,440
dice are oh my goodness and the dice are like perfectly squares like their the edges are sharp

1776
02:45:07,160 --> 02:45:14,120
so they catch and they bounce and they're changed constantly and uh it's still i didn't know it had

1777
02:45:14,120 --> 02:45:17,240
to bounce off a wall i didn't know the other factors i thought you were literally just talking

1778
02:45:17,240 --> 02:45:23,480
it is not a skill game um people say that they can do it but i mean like sure sure sure sure

1779
02:45:24,200 --> 02:45:31,640
however saying that i can't understand why they think that opening a loot box has any

1780
02:45:32,280 --> 02:45:39,720
variant of skill because like with craps betting effectively is really very complicated um

1781
02:45:41,480 --> 02:45:44,920
well here's what i can say you can still lose it all here's what the court said and we'll see

1782
02:45:44,920 --> 02:45:51,400
what you think of this okay the court emphasized that loot boxes can't be judged in isolation

1783
02:45:51,960 --> 02:45:55,240
but must be evaluated within the context of the game

1784
02:45:58,120 --> 02:46:06,920
so what because the game has some skill the loot box is okay even though it's obviously gambling

1785
02:46:13,880 --> 02:46:19,240
i think i just hate it is this from who's this from is this that's australian austrian okay

1786
02:46:20,200 --> 02:46:24,760
i was worried this was a you and i thought i have they lost their way no we're still good

1787
02:46:25,800 --> 02:46:32,920
uh let's see what else the case was brought by gamers who spent about 20 000 euro on packs

1788
02:46:33,480 --> 02:46:39,720
and while ea welcomed the decision legal experts say it could push lawmakers to create clearer

1789
02:46:39,720 --> 02:46:44,440
regulations since existing gambling laws weren't designed with modern game mechanics in mind i

1790
02:46:44,440 --> 02:46:50,200
certainly hope so because man this has been going on a really long time now really has like

1791
02:46:50,200 --> 02:46:56,440
it just doesn't it just gambling's taken over the world doesn't just seem like like this stuff

1792
02:46:56,440 --> 02:47:03,240
could be solvable like i know they're part of the eu but this was not an eu decision there are different things i understand what's going on you remember how we talked earlier on the show

1793
02:47:03,240 --> 02:47:08,120
about how like with ai you know it's not obvious we can't just look at it and go well this is

1794
02:47:08,200 --> 02:47:14,520
obvious we just like need to fix this and in the same way the the microtransaction loot box

1795
02:47:14,520 --> 02:47:21,800
gotcha like gambling scene is evolving so fast that i know i i i don't think that all the solutions

1796
02:47:21,800 --> 02:47:29,480
are necessarily obvious but what there are are extremely obvious steps so we could at least be

1797
02:47:29,480 --> 02:47:36,520
engaging in the arms race rather than just one of the weird letting it take over people don't seem

1798
02:47:36,600 --> 02:47:45,400
like they want it stopped well no there's so much money in it no like even the people getting wrecked

1799
02:47:45,400 --> 02:47:51,720
i mean some of them do but there has to be like a there has to be a certain level of of reform

1800
02:47:52,360 --> 02:47:58,360
and self-awareness and honesty my my problem is to say that this is a problem but i'm struggling

1801
02:47:58,360 --> 02:48:04,680
to explain is that like you know democratic governments you're supposed to enact the will

1802
02:48:04,680 --> 02:48:15,240
of the people i think the people want it changed which is a weird change but i it feels true to me

1803
02:48:15,240 --> 02:48:22,200
like it doesn't feel like anyone cares anymore okay so there's there's gambling ads everywhere

1804
02:48:23,000 --> 02:48:27,800
no one seems to be affected by it i definitely affected no one seems to

1805
02:48:27,960 --> 02:48:39,080
do what i meant was the creators themselves if you did gambling ads in 2010 on youtube

1806
02:48:39,080 --> 02:48:45,320
oh dude you would have been flayed yeah if you do gambling ads now no one cares

1807
02:48:46,680 --> 02:48:51,480
and someone's gonna be like oh i care yeah i'm using like exaggeration and stuff i'm sorry but

1808
02:48:52,440 --> 02:48:57,800
of course some it's all relative relative to what it was like very very very very very small

1809
02:48:57,800 --> 02:49:05,000
percentage of people are actually gonna act on it at all yeah um i know and it's it's weird and you

1810
02:49:05,000 --> 02:49:13,560
see and the market is responding to that specifically in my opinion because places that try to have

1811
02:49:13,560 --> 02:49:20,040
squeaky clean reputations like the nfl stayed very far away from gambling for a very long time

1812
02:49:20,120 --> 02:49:26,680
and now has like embraced it hard deeply embraced it yep and super hard they got

1813
02:49:28,360 --> 02:49:33,000
nothing negative for it as far as i can tell it's it's free real estate at that point it's free

1814
02:49:33,000 --> 02:49:41,960
money nobody cared they just they just got that money yep like it's uh yeah people are just down

1815
02:49:41,960 --> 02:49:48,280
and like i i know people that have been wrecked by it and just keep going back and it is what it is

1816
02:49:48,280 --> 02:49:55,880
they just do sport gambling every week okay i mean like look it's not like i don't it's not

1817
02:49:55,880 --> 02:50:02,120
like i don't understand it like but like the my my point is if lawmakers try to come in and block

1818
02:50:02,120 --> 02:50:05,880
it i think people would be annoying yeah i think people would be legitimately upset the people who

1819
02:50:05,880 --> 02:50:13,800
are being harmed by it the most are the ones that would theoretically want to fight against it but

1820
02:50:13,800 --> 02:50:20,120
in practice would just be kind of irritated that you're taking away their fun and i think that yeah

1821
02:50:20,920 --> 02:50:27,000
you know we've talked pretty extensively about how things are kind of challenging right now in

1822
02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:35,000
general um any kind of assault on people's on people's fun what they see as the thing that they

1823
02:50:35,000 --> 02:50:40,440
still get to do that's fun for them i think is not going to be received well to your point yeah

1824
02:50:40,440 --> 02:50:50,600
yeah i still think that as creators we could um i still think as creators there's room for us to

1825
02:50:50,600 --> 02:51:02,280
just be responsible and and not engage with this but i have to admit that in the early days of the

1826
02:51:02,280 --> 02:51:08,520
like i don't really follow nfl i don't really follow the nba but i do follow the nhl a little bit

1827
02:51:09,160 --> 02:51:16,680
and in the early days of nhl athletes starting to take these gambling sponsorships and reporters

1828
02:51:16,680 --> 02:51:23,960
like you know pushing them on it during interviews and stuff i was like super grossed out by some

1829
02:51:23,960 --> 02:51:31,880
of the ones that had these partnerships and even myself as someone who has has been publicly

1830
02:51:31,880 --> 02:51:39,640
anti-gambling for as long as i can remember having a public stance on it um i don't remember who

1831
02:51:39,640 --> 02:51:46,440
they were anymore i don't remember who i was grossed out by and i don't even notice anymore

1832
02:51:46,440 --> 02:51:53,080
who is who are the ones that are sponsored by gambling and who aren't like my my ad block has

1833
02:51:53,080 --> 02:52:01,240
just kind of engaged and i've moved past it um not intentionally but just i was frog boiled

1834
02:52:01,240 --> 02:52:11,960
you know yeah and that's how they get you and so for me as someone who doesn't gamble in that sense

1835
02:52:11,960 --> 02:52:18,760
i mean i definitely i make bets you know i think that uh honestly life is i think it's one of the

1836
02:52:18,760 --> 02:52:26,360
reasons why it's so addictive for humans gambling yeah it's like a such an incredibly high percentage

1837
02:52:26,360 --> 02:52:32,840
of life getting up in the morning is a gamble you might die today not getting up in the morning is

1838
02:52:32,840 --> 02:52:40,680
a gamble ordering it's all chances everything's chances ordering true spec cables is a gamble

1839
02:52:41,240 --> 02:52:47,960
if i if i order too many then uh my cash flow is tied up potentially for months or even years

1840
02:52:47,960 --> 02:52:53,480
we've had products that we had in stock for like years like two or three years from our original

1841
02:52:53,480 --> 02:52:59,240
order date and if i don't order enough then i have people beating down my door and it's a huge

1842
02:52:59,240 --> 02:53:05,400
lost opportunity and you know then i'm kicking myself and so it's a it's a gamble everything's

1843
02:53:05,400 --> 02:53:14,840
a everything's a gamble not worked you know uh every fart that's very true may gore and flip

1844
02:53:15,560 --> 02:53:22,440
right like your farts a gamble your potential future spouse could smell it and decide not to hang out

1845
02:53:22,440 --> 02:53:29,160
with you i think they mean something else oh okay i thought you were trying to actually like

1846
02:53:29,160 --> 02:53:37,400
say something talking about brown the shirts are ready it's true though okay it is technically i mean

1847
02:53:37,400 --> 02:53:43,640
yeah that's why we don't make any white underwear on LTT Store i did that's why i don't wear underwear

1848
02:53:44,600 --> 02:53:45,960
is that actually true yeah

1849
02:53:48,440 --> 02:53:56,200
we know our users oh no we're there for you oh my god we've got your back side

1850
02:53:57,480 --> 02:54:01,080
holy crap i guess that's a ding wow

1851
02:54:03,880 --> 02:54:11,640
i mean look think about it from a brand standpoint would i ever want any image to exist

1852
02:54:11,640 --> 02:54:18,360
of an LTT underwear with a skid mark on it no no what do they come with them so that's why

1853
02:54:18,360 --> 02:54:24,440
that you can like mask them that's why we use deep color bases or black as our base fabric for all

1854
02:54:24,440 --> 02:54:33,560
of our underwear there's just certain there's certain things that i just fundamentally believe

1855
02:54:34,200 --> 02:54:40,040
one of the things that i believe is that the world doesn't need more plumber bum so anytime

1856
02:54:40,040 --> 02:54:49,960
we make a bottom like i'll do like a i'll make sure that as part of my test of the medium and

1857
02:54:49,960 --> 02:54:53,800
then i like i check with the fashion team like make sure you check the grading on the other sizes

1858
02:54:53,800 --> 02:55:00,040
that we do like a gape test at the back like if i if i'm sitting straight can you see my

1859
02:55:00,040 --> 02:55:05,880
ass crack and if you can we have a problem now obviously i would be wearing underwear in these

1860
02:55:05,880 --> 02:55:12,600
situations that is our underwear which is designed not to show ass crack right so no one's actually

1861
02:55:12,600 --> 02:55:17,800
looking at my ass crack in product meeting not that technically employees haven't done that before

1862
02:55:17,800 --> 02:55:23,240
what what are you talking about dad has had to edit some footage no he didn't have so what he did

1863
02:55:23,240 --> 02:55:29,320
was he blurred the whole frame and then slowly unblurred so he didn't have to look at anything

1864
02:55:29,320 --> 02:55:37,880
anyway and that wasn't my butt that was much worse so so that so that's one of the things that

1865
02:55:39,480 --> 02:55:46,280
what no he's like do i really have to write this down yeah i think so i think so so i believe

1866
02:55:46,280 --> 02:55:52,040
that the world needs less plumber bum not more of it and then the other one of the other things

1867
02:55:52,040 --> 02:55:58,200
that i believe is that the world needs less skid marks not more of them so our underwear are and

1868
02:55:58,200 --> 02:56:03,800
look if you if you drop an entire load like you know like you're sitting in the oval office or

1869
02:56:03,800 --> 02:56:10,600
something then that's one thing like there's no amount of protection that any color of underwear

1870
02:56:10,600 --> 02:56:17,160
can give you from that but you know if it's if it's you know you know a wet one you know for

1871
02:56:17,160 --> 02:56:21,960
instance then for the most part you should be able to you should be able to wash it out and that's

1872
02:56:21,960 --> 02:56:25,640
that's the plan that's the goal it at least shouldn't be immediately noticeable

1873
02:56:28,600 --> 02:56:38,120
oh okay right so speaking of product meeting i had a chat with ashley she's one of our members of

1874
02:56:38,120 --> 02:56:45,640
our a wonderful design team and we've been working on this she just had this cute drawing of a parrot

1875
02:56:45,640 --> 02:56:50,040
on the wall next to her desk and i was like is that like a design for something we're doing

1876
02:56:50,040 --> 02:56:56,600
and she was like no not really it's just kind of like maybe you know it kind of and i was like okay

1877
02:56:56,600 --> 02:57:01,640
sure but like it's adorable like should we do something with that and she's like yeah i guess

1878
02:57:01,640 --> 02:57:07,160
so so she put together a couple mock-ups for me and i think this is something that's going to resonate

1879
02:57:07,160 --> 02:57:13,880
in a big way with our community and Dan can you go ahead luke is going to be the final call

1880
02:57:15,960 --> 02:57:20,200
but it's uh it's an if buying isn't owning shirt

1881
02:57:20,440 --> 02:57:28,120
which one do you like better i gave her your feedback about the anatomy of bird wings because

1882
02:57:28,120 --> 02:57:36,760
we were trying to go for kind of a shrug um i don't want to influence you guys so i'm just gonna

1883
02:57:36,760 --> 02:57:41,560
i'm just gonna shut up now and i'll let luke kind of talk through through his preferences and then

1884
02:57:41,560 --> 02:57:46,040
we'll let you guys i'll we'll let you guys vote in Floatplane chat about two minutes for poll

1885
02:57:46,120 --> 02:57:52,680
but i think yeah one minute is fine i i think they're super cute i think uh ashley did a great

1886
02:57:52,680 --> 02:57:56,200
job with the design and i'll i'll let you guys kind of pick which one you like better

1887
02:57:57,880 --> 02:58:01,160
just gonna crop out the arms don't worry too much about the shirt color for now

1888
02:58:03,560 --> 02:58:05,960
because it might go on a different color shirt we're looking at the design

1889
02:58:07,800 --> 02:58:13,640
okay so chats so far going with don't just pick based on chat no i can i can talk about my

1890
02:58:13,640 --> 02:58:17,720
reasoning to explain it but chat is going with the one that i was kind of leaning on which is the

1891
02:58:17,720 --> 02:58:26,760
top one um my whole thing was that the the like shoulder joint on a bird is kind of strange and

1892
02:58:26,760 --> 02:58:32,680
i can i'll let Dan keep working on that looks about to get into bird anatomy here so like on

1893
02:58:32,680 --> 02:58:37,800
here it kind of looks like it comes all the way over but that's not many passions that's not like

1894
02:58:37,880 --> 02:58:43,080
where it connects to the main body of the bird that's like their elbow basically

1895
02:58:44,840 --> 02:58:48,600
like up here where my where the fingers pointing as you're talking so when you see here

1896
02:58:49,240 --> 02:58:58,040
like it's it's way back yeah like if i look at uh birds flying and you look at the the body

1897
02:58:58,040 --> 02:59:02,040
like the body of the bird is way down it's it's basically on its back

1898
02:59:02,040 --> 02:59:07,480
mm-hmm it's and like not quite but it like it's like a shoulder blade basically like it's at

1899
02:59:07,480 --> 02:59:15,320
the back of the body not like here so uh yeah so to me the bottom one and like i don't i'm not

1900
02:59:16,040 --> 02:59:20,920
very cute bird i'm not trying to i fully understand i'm being super annoying in lame

1901
02:59:23,400 --> 02:59:30,280
i just want to put that out there okay this is nice no yeah but it looks more like it's coming

1902
02:59:30,280 --> 02:59:35,560
out of like the middle of the bird do you see what i'm saying yeah yeah i see what you mean

1903
02:59:35,560 --> 02:59:43,080
so it my brain just as like a weird bird loser okay is like hey the wings in the wrong spot

1904
02:59:43,720 --> 02:59:48,520
so then i want to go with the top one because now it doesn't really i mean it's still sort of does

1905
02:59:49,720 --> 02:59:57,560
but it doesn't really have the problem as much mm-hmm okay but yeah bird wing thing when it's

1906
02:59:57,560 --> 03:00:04,680
folded in it kind of you know ARM they're like this all right Floatplane agrees with you and 71

1907
03:00:04,680 --> 03:00:12,440
percent say the top design so i will let her know on monday yeah also the bottom one doesn't i don't

1908
03:00:12,440 --> 03:00:16,360
necessarily know that either of them do i don't know how the heck you would draw a bird shrugging

1909
03:00:16,360 --> 03:00:21,640
so like she really tried this is not a criticism she really tried i have literally no idea how you

1910
03:00:21,640 --> 03:00:27,400
would do that this is i think the wings better than what i would they would just move even farther

1911
03:00:27,400 --> 03:00:33,400
backwards okay which is not gonna i'm gonna throw this for a little loop she did have a one-armed

1912
03:00:33,400 --> 03:00:37,640
shrug but i didn't even show it to you because i didn't think it would work for you yeah yeah

1913
03:00:37,640 --> 03:00:44,360
she really tried a bird shrugging is not a natural probably impossible i mean i'm sure iago does it

1914
03:00:44,360 --> 03:00:50,280
at some point in a laden but it this is a really different drawing style here's another example

1915
03:00:50,280 --> 03:00:55,560
of what i'm talking about like look at where that's connecting on this bird's body yeah yeah i see what

1916
03:00:55,560 --> 03:01:01,800
you mean uh so then but but given the insane task of trying to draw a bird shrugging like i don't

1917
03:01:02,520 --> 03:01:06,680
i didn't really have a lot of advice because i don't know what the heck you could could do

1918
03:01:06,680 --> 03:01:13,080
oh man um guys relax avian says the aliasing on the letter sucks guys it's a team's message

1919
03:01:13,080 --> 03:01:19,240
sent to me that i said that i snipping tooled and then teams to Dan and then i also snipping

1920
03:01:19,240 --> 03:01:25,240
tooled it and then and then put it into like it's so many layers yeah don't worry about it don't

1921
03:01:25,240 --> 03:01:32,360
worry about it relax um birds are cute yeah uh what do you think of the copy

1922
03:01:34,600 --> 03:01:44,920
well what was it if buying isn't owning dot dot dot yeah i i mean i like that this seems pretty good all right cool

1923
03:01:48,120 --> 03:01:55,320
uh is is the seventh monday no why would why would teams default to a saturday for a scheduled

1924
03:01:55,320 --> 03:02:01,240
message why does teams do freaking anything man yeah it should do nothing good idea

1925
03:02:01,480 --> 03:02:06,520
yeah i think i would prefer life if that sounds like they're a product from it already yeah

1926
03:02:08,040 --> 03:02:12,200
hey you want to fix to something that's like incredibly obvious what we should do and is

1927
03:02:12,200 --> 03:02:16,040
like a precedent set by everyone and would be definitely better than anything else we

1928
03:02:16,040 --> 03:02:20,360
could possibly do nope we're not going to do that cool we will do it but in a different way

1929
03:02:20,920 --> 03:02:28,680
that is objectively worse and no one likes nice nice solid um why teams because it's

1930
03:02:28,680 --> 03:02:32,360
cheap and it's bundled with stuff you're probably going to get anyways which is why basically everyone

1931
03:02:32,360 --> 03:02:40,920
has teams autonomous cars are getting prompt injected by road signs researchers at UC Santa

1932
03:02:40,920 --> 03:02:48,920
Cruz and Johns Hopkins have shown that self-driving cars and autonomous drones will just follow

1933
03:02:48,920 --> 03:02:55,000
instructions that are written on physical signs that are held up in front of their cameras it's

1934
03:02:55,000 --> 03:03:03,080
prompt injection but in the real world instead of a chat box in simulated tests they got an 81.8

1935
03:03:03,080 --> 03:03:10,760
percent success rate tricking a self-driving car running gpt 40 into ignoring pedestrians in a

1936
03:03:10,760 --> 03:03:18,840
crosswalk just by placing a sign with a command in its camera view they also tricked drones that

1937
03:03:18,840 --> 03:03:26,840
were programmed to follow police cars into following a different vehicle by putting police

1938
03:03:26,840 --> 03:03:34,440
Santa Cruz on the roof of a random car the ai fell for that one up to 95.5 of the time

1939
03:03:35,960 --> 03:03:42,360
drones programmed to find safe landing spots would land on debris covered rooftops if a sign reading

1940
03:03:42,360 --> 03:03:52,360
safe to land was placed nearby oh thanks man yeah real world physical tests of this worked

1941
03:03:52,360 --> 03:03:59,240
to not just simulations they put signs on the floor and on rc cars around a university building

1942
03:03:59,240 --> 03:04:06,440
and got up to 92 and a half percent success hijacking gpt 4o's decision making the attacks

1943
03:04:06,440 --> 03:04:11,880
worked in multiple languages english chinese spanish and even spanglish green backgrounds

1944
03:04:11,880 --> 03:04:18,520
with yellow text were the most effective the researchers call the method really chai command

1945
03:04:18,520 --> 03:04:24,280
hijacking against embodied ai they found the wording of the prompt mattered most but font color and

1946
03:04:24,280 --> 03:04:31,240
sign placement also affected success rates this is basically the same prompt injection problem

1947
03:04:31,240 --> 03:04:35,800
we've seen with ai reading malicious web pages or pdf's except now it's in a physical environment

1948
03:04:35,800 --> 03:04:40,760
where the consequences could be people getting run over cool

1949
03:04:44,120 --> 03:04:49,080
but hey you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs right luke all of them you have to

1950
03:04:49,080 --> 03:04:54,440
break every single egg and the eggs are us how would i become a trillion dollar company if a

1951
03:04:54,440 --> 03:05:00,200
few people didn't get run over that's yeah i mean that's how that works that's how that works

1952
03:05:00,520 --> 03:05:07,240
firefox introduces ai kill switch firefox comes through with a block ai enhancement

1953
03:05:07,240 --> 03:05:12,520
toggle that nukes all current and future ai features from your browser this is coming

1954
03:05:12,520 --> 03:05:21,720
february 24th with firefox 148 cool nice that was all we had to say about that

1955
03:05:22,360 --> 03:05:29,000
seems neat this one's fun audio files can't differentiate between audio signal sent through

1956
03:05:29,080 --> 03:05:37,320
copper through a banana or through mud in a blind test pano a member of the diy audio forum

1957
03:05:37,320 --> 03:05:42,280
conducted an experiment where listeners were asked to identify audio signal sent through wire mud

1958
03:05:42,280 --> 03:05:50,120
and even a banana and most guest list landed near random which suggests that no reliable

1959
03:05:50,120 --> 03:05:56,520
difference exists in the audio at line level the experiment challenges the idea that tiny

1960
03:05:56,520 --> 03:06:02,840
cable differences dramatically impact sound quality especially when expectations and branding

1961
03:06:02,840 --> 03:06:08,760
are removed from the equation Dan you make your own cables does this affect you uh do you know

1962
03:06:08,760 --> 03:06:15,160
what i use for speaker cable at home for analog speaker coat hanger uh phone cable that's from

1963
03:06:15,160 --> 03:06:22,360
like the mid 80s nice solid i think the conductors are smaller than a pencil lead it sounds fine um

1964
03:06:23,000 --> 03:06:30,040
the cables that i make here using mogami gold dual twisted pair um are shielded they have a

1965
03:06:30,040 --> 03:06:34,360
synthetic pull cord in the center of them and they are designed for a professional environment

1966
03:06:34,360 --> 03:06:40,360
where they are twisted and unplugged and replugged in 700 times a day and get thrown around and okay

1967
03:06:40,360 --> 03:06:50,840
they are shielded from interference and durable durable and they are good forever they're not

1968
03:06:50,840 --> 03:06:58,040
because they sound better thanks Dan thank you for that sanity that was injected into um a place

1969
03:06:58,040 --> 03:07:03,480
that needs more of it which is the high end cable space i kind of want uh i might not make it home

1970
03:07:03,480 --> 03:07:11,880
if you don't hear from me on monday big cable big cable got him Dan is not suicidal um material

1971
03:07:11,880 --> 03:07:18,440
can still affect audio in high powered setups over very long runs or in interference heavy

1972
03:07:18,440 --> 03:07:25,320
environments but how much mud but for typical listening the differences may be far smaller

1973
03:07:25,320 --> 03:07:30,680
than marketing would suggest a good example of this would be how with older unshielded instrument

1974
03:07:30,680 --> 03:07:34,920
cables you can sometimes hear am radio signals through your speakers if you have a bad ground

1975
03:07:34,920 --> 03:07:41,320
so to be clear and this is coming from someone who literally launched a cable product last week

1976
03:07:42,120 --> 03:07:50,360
there is a time and a place for a high quality cable but we just need to drop the horse around

1977
03:07:50,360 --> 03:07:56,760
it and focus on the things that actually matter with a higher quality cable or use that to transmit

1978
03:07:56,760 --> 03:08:02,600
the audio that you could use a usb cable to carry audio if you want to no sorry what the the

1979
03:08:02,600 --> 03:08:09,400
horse can you bleep that word i think so not horse yeah the one after that i mean i might

1980
03:08:09,480 --> 03:08:14,680
i might bleep whores but not horse i don't think you'd bleep whores you don't think so i don't

1981
03:08:14,680 --> 03:08:20,120
think so i mean i guess the evidence is backing you up on this and you you didn't do it either yeah

1982
03:08:20,120 --> 03:08:25,800
you didn't do it either yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm surprised you didn't take that home i have one

1983
03:08:26,360 --> 03:08:32,360
oh nice i think this one is maybe for the show i'm not sure but yeah i have one i was on display

1984
03:08:32,360 --> 03:08:36,920
very certain you were gonna snag one oh it's absolutely uh those are selling really well

1985
03:08:36,920 --> 03:08:42,360
by the way they're awesome it's on display like right behind my desk it's yeah that actually

1986
03:08:42,360 --> 03:08:48,920
makes a ton of sense yeah so yeah Floatplane exclusive colorway of the LTT precision pro

1987
03:08:49,480 --> 03:08:57,000
screwdriver set pretty cool we even redid the mold for the cover that's not the mold

1988
03:08:57,800 --> 03:09:04,280
but that's cool too the black plastic cover yeah oh wait do we seriously not show that

1989
03:09:05,240 --> 03:09:11,960
oh my god okay well it doesn't even matter that much but sure loot loot can show it

1990
03:09:12,840 --> 03:09:16,200
any who in the meantime why don't we uh check out if there's any other topics

1991
03:09:19,000 --> 03:09:25,640
oh valve steam machine has been delayed but not delayed oh here you go loot cam there you go it

1992
03:09:25,640 --> 03:09:33,320
has a Floatplane logo instead of an LTT logo now so valve never actually said that they were going

1993
03:09:33,400 --> 03:09:38,440
to launch the steam machine on a specific day at a specific price they were intentionally

1994
03:09:38,440 --> 03:09:43,560
vague and cagey about that uh but that is not going to stop people from saying the steam machine

1995
03:09:43,560 --> 03:09:49,560
has been delayed and they're all kind of sort of right valve has pushed back the early 2026

1996
03:09:49,560 --> 03:09:54,600
launch window for the steam machine steam frame and steam controller due to the ongoing RAM and

1997
03:09:54,600 --> 03:10:00,680
storage shortages across the industry rising memory costs have forced valve to revisit both

1998
03:10:00,680 --> 03:10:06,040
shipping timelines and pricing especially as RAM prices have reportedly tripled or even quadrupled

1999
03:10:06,040 --> 03:10:11,640
amid ai server demand valve says it still aims to ship the hardware in the first half of the year

2000
03:10:11,640 --> 03:10:17,800
but won't announce firm dates or prices until supply conditions stabilize which lord only knows when

2001
03:10:17,800 --> 03:10:23,960
that is going to happen can i take a moment to completely change topics now and say how much

2002
03:10:23,960 --> 03:10:34,280
i think it sucks that modern server hardware is so unusable after its end of life like there was

2003
03:10:34,280 --> 03:10:41,320
kind of a golden moment there when old server motherboards and cpus and RAM were perfectly

2004
03:10:41,320 --> 03:10:49,240
cromulent gaming setups that you could run normal consumer hardware on and normal consumer operating

2005
03:10:49,240 --> 03:10:54,840
systems and when they were a few years old you could totally still get your hands on enough stuff to

2006
03:10:55,640 --> 03:11:01,720
to run these computers in a in a home environment and you could often get them for really really

2007
03:11:01,720 --> 03:11:12,280
affordably whereas now much like what we've seen with mobile devices servers are so tightly integrated

2008
03:11:12,280 --> 03:11:20,680
that even if you even if you got your hands on some 192 core epics a few years from now

2009
03:11:20,680 --> 03:11:25,000
five years from now when a data center is going all these are consuming too much power to even

2010
03:11:25,000 --> 03:11:30,120
bother running them right when back when you used to be able to get old server cpus for pennies on

2011
03:11:30,120 --> 03:11:36,920
the dollar what motherboard would you put them in there are some but the thing is when a CPU is

2012
03:11:36,920 --> 03:11:45,400
eol so is the motherboard and since the vast vast majority of the boards that these are going into

2013
03:11:45,400 --> 03:11:54,920
are going to be bespoke near or nearly bespoke designs for like blade or or or super thin liquid

2014
03:11:54,920 --> 03:12:02,040
cooled like one or two u machines there's going to be no boards to put them in so we're going to have

2015
03:12:02,040 --> 03:12:08,520
all these cpus we're going to have all this ecc DDR5 memory and it's just going to be like

2016
03:12:09,160 --> 03:12:14,440
garbage because nobody would use it for what it was originally used for anymore because it's just

2017
03:12:14,440 --> 03:12:20,120
not even worth powering up at that point it's not worth powering up in cooling and you can't use it

2018
03:12:20,120 --> 03:12:24,840
for anything else i was just i was thinking about this the other day and kory g says there's data

2019
03:12:24,840 --> 03:12:29,480
centers that sell that stuff i know that's exactly what i'm saying but it used to be that you could

2020
03:12:29,480 --> 03:12:35,320
pick up some old optarons and have like a cheap quad core set up at home or you could pick up an

2021
03:12:35,320 --> 03:12:41,640
old zeon and you'd find like like chinese sellers on ali express that were cutting the chipsets off

2022
03:12:41,640 --> 03:12:47,720
of old motherboards and remanufacturing boards to put them in but you might have noticed that that

2023
03:12:47,720 --> 03:12:54,360
practice never really moved beyond that generation of zeons and that's because everything is so much

2024
03:12:54,360 --> 03:13:00,520
more locked down now and it blows yeah it's no fun i had some hope that that kind of stuff would get

2025
03:13:00,520 --> 03:13:05,880
cracked open because just the sheer volume of stuff that the enterprise is buying right now

2026
03:13:06,440 --> 03:13:11,720
would eventually hit the market and there might be like hardware hacker homebrew type stuff to

2027
03:13:11,720 --> 03:13:18,040
try to get it working but i'm losing that hope a little bit as things seem to be going to like

2028
03:13:18,040 --> 03:13:27,160
google buspoke hardware route um and we're never seen any of that so yeah i mean we could we could

2029
03:13:27,160 --> 03:13:36,360
hold up maybe a little bit of hope i mean epic is an soc so epic in particular it is possible

2030
03:13:36,360 --> 03:13:40,760
that if there are just and and and there will be like just hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

2031
03:13:40,760 --> 03:13:47,320
thousands of these epic chips that maybe they'll float out that are on motherboards that use like

2032
03:13:47,320 --> 03:13:55,720
custom you know uh edge like edge interfaces in order to get power to them and stuff that you

2033
03:13:55,720 --> 03:14:02,040
can't just like power with an atx power supply that that they'll that someone will start manufacturing

2034
03:14:02,920 --> 03:14:06,840
boards for them like salvaging chips from these things and then manufacturing

2035
03:14:06,840 --> 03:14:11,240
you know more modular desktop boards for them or something like that but like if you go on

2036
03:14:11,240 --> 03:14:20,040
aliexpress i don't think i don't think past x 299 it ever really continued

2037
03:14:20,920 --> 03:14:29,560
um or was it or was it x 99 was x 99 the end of this these like remanufactured boards from

2038
03:14:29,560 --> 03:14:35,480
like machinist and stuff like that i think so i'm not sure like you can still get these and these

2039
03:14:35,480 --> 03:14:43,160
were a great bang for the buck back in the day but now they're they're as a zion v4 is pretty

2040
03:14:43,160 --> 03:14:48,360
freaking old now that's what like has well zion v4 i think that's has well

2041
03:14:49,800 --> 03:14:56,840
yeah yikes oh no v3 is has well apparently

2042
03:14:57,080 --> 03:15:02,040
i miss we said new CPU spinners is what i'm hearing

2043
03:15:03,080 --> 03:15:07,880
uh that would cut off your fingers it's sad yeah that too

2044
03:15:10,120 --> 03:15:13,240
sorry i'm just gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna make sure it's has well someone in chat want to let

2045
03:15:13,240 --> 03:15:17,320
me know no v4 is broad well that's right i forgot about broad well because it existed for like three

2046
03:15:17,320 --> 03:15:25,560
weeks on the desktop do you remember the the 5775c i don't think so yeah it was a weird chip i uh

2047
03:15:26,840 --> 03:15:29,160
did minus did LTT ever do a video

2048
03:15:32,520 --> 03:15:36,120
this is when i would have been pretty tuned in yeah i remember this thing

2049
03:15:37,080 --> 03:15:45,160
this is it was a trippy chip yeah maybe i do yeah it had this like giant cash yeah and then um it

2050
03:15:45,160 --> 03:15:55,960
was the it was technically the like 770k of that generation was the the 5775c was like the the k

2051
03:15:56,280 --> 03:16:02,680
worst name and then ever do i think it was like seriously less than two months that it was the

2052
03:16:02,680 --> 03:16:12,280
flagship next gen chip and then it was replaced by the 6700k that went on to be you know king of the

2053
03:16:12,280 --> 03:16:20,120
14 nanometer plus plus plus plus plus plus until new ones came um yeah yeah people are like whoa

2054
03:16:20,120 --> 03:16:26,440
no keys like whoa it had 128 megs of level 4 cash like yeah it was a it was a pretty cool

2055
03:16:27,480 --> 03:16:34,200
chip and as far as i can tell they sold like tens of them like i don't i don't know what was up with

2056
03:16:34,200 --> 03:16:39,160
that thing or what the what the why they even bothered to bring it to market after it was so late

2057
03:16:40,280 --> 03:16:47,000
is that a video no i don't think so okay spain banned social media for kids under 16

2058
03:16:47,000 --> 03:16:51,800
and ilan is somewhat indelicate about it i have no idea what that means spanish prime minister

2059
03:16:51,800 --> 03:16:57,240
peter o'sanchez announced spain will ban social media access for users under 16 calling social

2060
03:16:57,240 --> 03:17:06,360
media a failed state where laws are ignored and crime crime is endured i like it intense the

2061
03:17:06,360 --> 03:17:11,000
regulations go beyond just an age ban social media companies will be required to implement

2062
03:17:11,000 --> 03:17:20,920
effective age verification systems oh it was always backfire and not just checkboxes algorithmic

2063
03:17:20,920 --> 03:17:26,440
manipulation and amplification of illegal content will become a new criminal offense this i like

2064
03:17:26,440 --> 03:17:33,560
this is pretty based tech ceo's will face criminal liability for well um algorithmic manipulation

2065
03:17:33,560 --> 03:17:38,440
and amplification of illegal content i guess the content itself would have to be illegal

2066
03:17:38,440 --> 03:17:44,120
i was gonna say content of illegal things gets really fuzzy but it's the amplification of illegal

2067
03:17:44,120 --> 03:17:49,240
content yeah so it's like if you're a news reporter how would they even fix this

2068
03:17:50,680 --> 03:17:55,640
go back to just the people you follow are the people that you see content from whoa that would

2069
03:17:55,640 --> 03:18:01,000
be crazy hey can you imagine if facebook was just facebook again i would use facebook again

2070
03:18:01,000 --> 03:18:05,960
really yeah that's a wild take i would do it really i think it'd be fun if you just like

2071
03:18:05,960 --> 03:18:12,520
followed you know if every single thing in my feed were just people that i knew that i followed

2072
03:18:12,520 --> 03:18:22,280
i would use facebook again okay here's a crazy pitch no float book will it i knew exactly where

2073
03:18:22,280 --> 03:18:27,960
he's going will it be chronological i loved facebook i loved all of these platforms until

2074
03:18:27,960 --> 03:18:33,320
they got rid of the chronological i don't care if someone spams if they spam and i find it annoying

2075
03:18:33,320 --> 03:18:39,480
i'll just unfriend them chat says yes just go punch them no face chat says yes morning chat says yes

2076
03:18:41,640 --> 03:18:46,040
gilmore says i would join the worst part is probably not that hard

2077
03:18:47,400 --> 03:18:52,040
yeah do it was like the open source stuff for like what is it mastered on or whatever which is like

2078
03:18:52,040 --> 03:18:56,920
basically just twitter which is how they all built all their things it would just be twitter but it's

2079
03:18:56,920 --> 03:19:00,280
just only the people you follow it probably would be the hard i just really don't want to do it i

2080
03:19:00,280 --> 03:19:04,600
don't want to do it there's nobody i'm not interested it's not there's no future there

2081
03:19:07,000 --> 03:19:12,360
doesn't fit into our company at all that's fine i have better ideas anyway okay good um better

2082
03:19:12,360 --> 03:19:18,600
visions actually you know what maybe this is something that exists already i i really want

2083
03:19:18,600 --> 03:19:21,640
this to be a thing you know i'll let you finish this and then i'll and then i'll talk about the

2084
03:19:21,640 --> 03:19:28,280
thing that i want sure um tech CEOs will face criminal liability for hateful or or illegal

2085
03:19:28,280 --> 03:19:37,640
content on their platforms oh uh sanchez cited specific examples x's grok ai generating sexualized

2086
03:19:37,640 --> 03:19:43,960
images of children meta spying on Android users and election interference campaigns on facebook

2087
03:19:43,960 --> 03:19:51,080
spain has formed a co fair uh spain has formed a coalition with five other unnamed european

2088
03:19:51,080 --> 03:19:57,000
nations to enact stricter so stricter social media governance together this follows australia's

2089
03:19:57,000 --> 03:20:03,080
under 16 ban enacted last year the uk is actively considering a similar ban and the denmark and

2090
03:20:03,080 --> 03:20:09,080
melasia have announced plans to do the same it's becoming a global trend which is great no specific

2091
03:20:09,080 --> 03:20:13,400
enforcement timeline has been announced yet so the details of how this actually works in practice

2092
03:20:14,120 --> 03:20:19,320
are still unclear uh our discussion question is does banning kids from social media actually

2093
03:20:19,320 --> 03:20:24,600
protect them or does it just push them to find workarounds can i okay maybe this will be my

2094
03:20:24,600 --> 03:20:32,600
chance for a hot take can i say i consider it positive either way yeah no i completely agree

2095
03:20:33,160 --> 03:20:40,520
if if it protects them then great no oh if it doesn't protect them and they like become

2096
03:20:40,520 --> 03:20:46,440
more technically competent uh i think it better arms them for an increasingly digital world

2097
03:20:47,720 --> 03:20:53,240
so yeah no i think it's good either way matt from the lab's web team in Floatplane chat said adding

2098
03:20:53,320 --> 03:20:58,280
float book to trello for monday sick uh little does matt know that we don't subscribe to trello

2099
03:20:58,280 --> 03:21:03,800
anymore so don't don't line is you don't know what things that happen at your company don't tell line

2100
03:21:03,800 --> 03:21:09,240
is i thought oh no i might get it i thought we're getting rid of trello it's not a paid thing i think

2101
03:21:09,240 --> 03:21:13,240
or something i don't remember oh so we're just not going to pay for trello anymore it's uh there

2102
03:21:13,240 --> 03:21:19,080
are different task management for different teams oh for crying out loud the air table switch i'm over

2103
03:21:19,320 --> 03:21:22,760
was for LMG as a production line over it line it's it's okay that's why

2104
03:21:23,480 --> 03:21:29,800
air table is is a like a nuclear bomb i'm over and trello is a scalpel for like a few people

2105
03:21:29,800 --> 03:21:34,200
i'm over it we just have to defend ourselves i'm over everyone else here too demote doesn't have

2106
03:21:34,200 --> 03:21:40,280
a little flag i'm over it tonight god damn it does it play sounds i'm over it no no guys whoop

2107
03:21:40,280 --> 03:21:47,320
no i have a i have a way better idea anyway um so maybe this exists i hope it exists but i

2108
03:21:47,320 --> 03:21:54,040
want it to be pretty much exactly like what i'm saying because i i well no it might exist already

2109
03:21:54,040 --> 03:21:57,480
you might have opinions and that's okay but you need to think exactly what i'm thinking no no it's

2110
03:21:57,480 --> 03:22:01,640
not what you said it's just it's just i know people are going to make suggestions and they're

2111
03:22:01,640 --> 03:22:07,320
all wrong because they have to be perfect like i missed this thought no no no it's listen that's

2112
03:22:07,320 --> 03:22:16,280
what you were saying okay so i sorry you keep going you're good you're fine no you're fine no

2113
03:22:17,400 --> 03:22:22,840
i'm sure it's a great idea we might not be we all want to hear your idea i literally don't care

2114
03:22:22,840 --> 03:22:26,920
if it's a great idea it's just something that i want the whole class wants to hear your idea

2115
03:22:29,080 --> 03:22:33,160
i don't want to share it well we'll all sit and be quiet! you don't have to be quiet!

2116
03:22:33,720 --> 03:22:43,880
you just have to not laugh at me okay okay so i take a lot of pictures right what i just

2117
03:22:43,880 --> 03:22:49,160
what nah you just told me i can't laugh and that immediately made it incredibly hard not to laugh

2118
03:22:49,160 --> 03:22:53,880
that's literally a trick for like two-year-olds i know okay don't laugh i'm going to take the

2119
03:22:53,880 --> 03:22:58,680
picture now don't laugh i know i never grew up are you thinking about smiling because if you're

2120
03:22:58,680 --> 03:23:02,280
thinking about smiling that's not the thing to do right now because i'm taking a serious picture

2121
03:23:02,280 --> 03:23:08,680
that is funny that would work on me i know oh god it would work on me too

2122
03:23:11,320 --> 03:23:14,840
okay sorry my mom's trick was always that she would just

2123
03:23:16,040 --> 03:23:22,360
completely have her composure nailed down and she'd go all right everybody ready okay everybody

2124
03:23:22,360 --> 03:23:30,840
serious okay pee pee poo poo bum bum fart part and it was just it didn't matter kids adults

2125
03:23:31,480 --> 03:23:39,880
didn't matter always worked that's pretty fun that's pretty good nobody it's i don't understand

2126
03:23:39,880 --> 03:23:45,000
what it because it only takes one person to break yeah and then it's contagious yeah yeah yeah yeah

2127
03:23:45,000 --> 03:23:48,680
okay you take a lot of pictures yeah okay i take a lot of pictures but

2128
03:23:49,480 --> 03:23:57,800
but i don't i don't necessarily remember like the context and i i don't necessarily have

2129
03:23:58,440 --> 03:24:07,080
like the like anything associated with it that helps me with the memory or that makes it more

2130
03:24:07,080 --> 03:24:12,280
fun to share with someone and already that's a format that totally exists you take a picture

2131
03:24:12,280 --> 03:24:19,400
and then you tapety tapety type of thing and then you like you like share it but what i want is

2132
03:24:19,400 --> 03:24:28,280
pretty much that except i don't share it so i want a more sophisticated metadata mechanism

2133
03:24:28,280 --> 03:24:37,000
where basically i take a picture and immediately a voice recording prompt comes up a voice to text

2134
03:24:37,080 --> 03:24:44,600
and i go you know this was so funny because two minutes before i took this you said

2135
03:24:44,600 --> 03:24:50,680
this and this and this and it was hilarious or whatever you can get crazy funding for this

2136
03:24:50,680 --> 03:24:56,520
so i'm imagining like uh like tell you how photography you know like it's basically like it's

2137
03:24:56,520 --> 03:25:02,280
like a diary but in photography form and it's really meant for my own consumption it's an

2138
03:25:02,280 --> 03:25:08,200
alternative it's like a digital version of what a scrapbook would be for someone who's way too lazy

2139
03:25:08,200 --> 03:25:14,440
to scrapbook because so it's like what what google is doing with google photos with their

2140
03:25:14,440 --> 03:25:24,200
memories thing but manual and therefore much more accurate yeah yeah and then and then obviously

2141
03:25:24,200 --> 03:25:29,320
there would be times that i would want to share it with someone so i could see having like shared

2142
03:25:29,960 --> 03:25:38,440
shared albums or like shared shared permissions and so having the ability to see just my own

2143
03:25:39,320 --> 03:25:43,800
or things that are shared with me by specific people or everything that's mine

2144
03:25:43,800 --> 03:25:49,320
plus what everyone shared with me but nothing algorithmic float goat and Floatplane chat

2145
03:25:49,320 --> 03:25:55,800
apparently we have that user now nice um said that hopefully it would be self-hosted app yeah

2146
03:25:55,800 --> 03:25:59,320
the problem is if anyone else made this and the reason why i said i know you could get a

2147
03:25:59,320 --> 03:26:07,080
bunch of funding for it is it would be ai scraping all of your notes and then doing stuff with it

2148
03:26:07,080 --> 03:26:13,640
including helping you search through it and find things um but also probably selling your data and

2149
03:26:13,640 --> 03:26:20,200
doing other stuff like that so yeah i i don't know like does that we're not making that

2150
03:26:21,080 --> 03:26:29,640
yeah but like but i want it like what if i could like what if i could just like take a picture

2151
03:26:29,640 --> 03:26:36,280
like i don't i i i'll be honest it might be actually i'd never heard of bad bunny until

2152
03:26:36,920 --> 03:26:43,960
he co-hosted the tonight show while i was a guest uh but i i did hear of him at that time and so i

2153
03:26:43,960 --> 03:26:47,960
like researched him a little bit so that i would know who he was when he was sitting there across

2154
03:26:47,960 --> 03:26:53,480
the desk and the album that he was promoting last year during the appearance uh or sorry last

2155
03:26:53,480 --> 03:27:02,920
last year 2024 uh five uh what last year damn um was i should have taken more pictures or something

2156
03:27:02,920 --> 03:27:06,840
like that was what it roughly translated to in english and that actually really stuck with me

2157
03:27:06,840 --> 03:27:15,240
because i've thought many times about how i'm always on video but i never take any pictures

2158
03:27:15,240 --> 03:27:22,440
i have almost no digital record of what things were like behind the scenes at the Langley house

2159
03:27:22,440 --> 03:27:28,040
for instance do you remember that time that we emptied out the garage in order to build sets

2160
03:27:28,040 --> 03:27:34,840
or something and i took it worse no no no at my house oh that i emptied out the garage to build

2161
03:27:34,840 --> 03:27:42,200
sets and took all of the like parts and tables and and everything out of the garage and stacked it

2162
03:27:42,200 --> 03:27:48,120
up into the living room oh yes my living room was piled so high with tech crap and cameras and

2163
03:27:48,120 --> 03:27:53,480
tripods and tables that like i couldn't navigate it it was like up to here there was nuts yeah

2164
03:27:53,480 --> 03:27:58,600
i didn't take a picture of it i just i did a pretty good job with the think of you know that we were

2165
03:27:58,600 --> 03:28:03,960
doing of taking some little videos and pictures here and there but how amazing one but how cool

2166
03:28:03,960 --> 03:28:11,320
would it have been if i just had like it's not picture we had to pile everything out of the

2167
03:28:11,320 --> 03:28:16,840
garage into the living room and we can barely stand in here boop and then that was just part of

2168
03:28:16,840 --> 03:28:21,880
the metadata of that photo along with where it was taken when it was taken what camera was taken

2169
03:28:21,880 --> 03:28:27,080
with all the metadata that already exists and i had a really bad experience with ken and zoom

2170
03:28:27,080 --> 03:28:32,760
browser way back in the day because i actually did something like this i used to maintain every

2171
03:28:32,760 --> 03:28:37,640
picture i took on my old power shot a20 i would write a little blurb about who it was and where i

2172
03:28:37,640 --> 03:28:42,840
was and what was happening and what i realized one day when i reformatted my computer and i

2173
03:28:42,840 --> 03:28:48,120
reinstalled zoom browser was that that metadata existed within zoom browser which was ken and's

2174
03:28:48,120 --> 03:28:55,480
proprietary first party photo sorting app it was actually pretty cool except that it wasn't

2175
03:28:55,480 --> 03:29:03,240
injecting that metadata into the files themselves and i lost all of it and ever since zoom browser

2176
03:29:03,240 --> 03:29:11,480
i've wanted a way to reproduce what i did arduously manually with zoom browser

2177
03:29:13,080 --> 03:29:17,400
but just more conveniently with my phone people are saying image this is that thing

2178
03:29:17,400 --> 03:29:22,840
that i brought up on screen yeah it is cool but it doesn't do that like it's what you're describing

2179
03:29:22,840 --> 03:29:27,320
yeah so i'm i don't know why people are saying image a little bit confused about the image

2180
03:29:27,320 --> 03:29:31,960
recommendation i don't i don't know much about this i'm discovering it today but

2181
03:29:32,680 --> 03:29:38,120
clicking through it it doesn't seem like it works like this at all it's more of like a google photos

2182
03:29:38,680 --> 03:29:45,640
yeah but self-hosted it seems awesome but just not what Linus is describing and tag studio seems

2183
03:29:45,640 --> 03:29:52,600
like kind of a cool thing but really what i'm after is not a separate thing i have to install

2184
03:29:53,320 --> 03:30:00,600
and and like like upkeep i want something that as i'm going i just yak yak yak yak picture

2185
03:30:00,600 --> 03:30:04,680
and now it's it's logged like that we're gonna riff off something that full plane chat brought up

2186
03:30:05,800 --> 03:30:07,400
having vibe coded an app

2187
03:30:10,120 --> 03:30:14,120
do you feel like it would be now you're an incredibly busy person

2188
03:30:14,120 --> 03:30:26,200
and if you were say if you had an hour every day to work on this do you feel like you would

2189
03:30:30,040 --> 03:30:33,560
it's tough i feel you had a little bit more free time however you wanted to find that i feel like

2190
03:30:33,560 --> 03:30:40,840
we used to i feel like the our relationship with photographs used to be different

2191
03:30:44,120 --> 03:30:48,680
we used to take fewer of them we were more intentful about them because every photograph

2192
03:30:48,680 --> 03:30:53,800
cost money we used to look at them we used to every time we look at them we'd laugh and

2193
03:30:55,160 --> 03:31:01,880
i find i take i okay so i said i don't take enough pictures i thought you're wonderful um

2194
03:31:03,800 --> 03:31:07,800
but i do i do take more than i used to but i look at them less

2195
03:31:08,600 --> 03:31:15,160
i don't think i look at them less because i actually really like the google photos memories

2196
03:31:15,160 --> 03:31:20,840
feature interesting i like we'll actually click on it and actually skip through them i've turned

2197
03:31:20,840 --> 03:31:26,680
off my notifications for google photos so maybe i just don't get those i like it a lot okay yeah

2198
03:31:28,200 --> 03:31:30,680
like i'll constantly get like old c e s trips

2199
03:31:32,840 --> 03:31:35,320
i think it knows that i really like the notifications of trips

2200
03:31:36,200 --> 03:31:43,080
that makes sense that checks out for you honestly probably usually when i take my most photos i mean that's probably a pretty common one yeah so like i wonder if i even

2201
03:31:43,080 --> 03:31:50,360
have any notifications right now um yeah tim's asking i could i could make what you're describing

2202
03:31:50,360 --> 03:31:54,760
it's like not difficult you're not asking for a difficult thing i mean i think where things

2203
03:31:54,760 --> 03:32:02,600
could get more memory for you click on it it plays some music music and and then you you

2204
03:32:02,600 --> 03:32:06,040
click on it it just goes through different photos yeah my in-laws will send me these every once in

2205
03:32:06,040 --> 03:32:17,720
a while like of my kids in their in their google photo things um sorry bud was uh saying something

2206
03:32:17,720 --> 03:32:26,440
and then i lost it um can't find it oh yeah uh would you need like styles on the iphone or

2207
03:32:26,440 --> 03:32:30,760
whatever the Android equivalent is i mean honestly you know i'm the basicist there is when it comes

2208
03:32:30,760 --> 03:32:38,120
to when it comes to photos um i'm just for me it's more about hey remember that that was cool

2209
03:32:38,120 --> 03:32:43,880
when we were all there and we did that thing and and we enjoyed it and and shared a memory right

2210
03:32:43,880 --> 03:32:48,120
like it's amazing how much we how much we lose i was talking to especially kids like i was talking

2211
03:32:48,120 --> 03:32:53,640
to my kids about something and you know one of them completely didn't remember a place we've

2212
03:32:53,640 --> 03:33:00,040
gone multiple times as a family another one didn't remember living in our old house which is like

2213
03:33:00,040 --> 03:33:03,960
yeah i mean when you were 10 how much did you remember from when you were six or seven

2214
03:33:04,680 --> 03:33:11,320
probably very little that's a third of your life and it like does work like that

2215
03:33:13,080 --> 03:33:16,600
like she remembered that we did it but she didn't like

2216
03:33:18,600 --> 03:33:26,360
okay remember it okay yeah okay very well like her her life is in this new place yeah

2217
03:33:27,240 --> 03:33:33,240
she's wild okay okay fair enough i was gonna be like dude that's crazy no no no no no but my

2218
03:33:33,240 --> 03:33:38,520
kid's not dumb she's got a functioning memory it's just well i don't remember what my memory was

2219
03:33:38,520 --> 03:33:45,640
like when i was 10 yeah so like i don't know um and there are massive voids for me now from back

2220
03:33:45,640 --> 03:33:53,800
then oh hundred percent so like i i'm not sure yeah it's like and it's weird like the little

2221
03:33:53,880 --> 03:34:00,520
things you'll remember like i uh like i remember this one time that i ate like nearly an entire

2222
03:34:00,520 --> 03:34:04,200
box of honey net Cheerios dry from the from the box yeah there's all these you know like like

2223
03:34:04,200 --> 03:34:09,240
there's like you'll have these little weird flashes and like i remember why can i listen to a blank

2224
03:34:09,240 --> 03:34:15,400
song that i genuinely haven't heard yeah off some like weird esoteric blank album in like 20 years

2225
03:34:15,400 --> 03:34:21,880
and just know all the lyrics immediately music's a funny one though music does just work magic on

2226
03:34:21,880 --> 03:34:27,640
our brains yeah in in ways that other things don't i have there was one trip i went on when i was

2227
03:34:27,640 --> 03:34:36,200
very little like like two or something and my ma maire had a waterbed and a yellow

2228
03:34:37,400 --> 03:34:44,760
washing machine and for some reason drilled into my brain is waterbred waterbed and yellow

2229
03:34:44,760 --> 03:34:51,480
washing machine and the waterbed i can like describe the room and like i we had this i had

2230
03:34:51,480 --> 03:34:55,880
a conversation with my dad like not even that long ago and i mentioned those two things and he was like

2231
03:34:56,840 --> 03:35:02,840
what like barely even remembered i was like alive when those things existed right because i

2232
03:35:02,840 --> 03:35:09,800
was like so little and for some reason i just know of those things like i have no idea why i

2233
03:35:09,800 --> 03:35:14,600
remembered that i remember the sound of my dad's waterbed but i don't remember what it looked like

2234
03:35:14,600 --> 03:35:20,280
sure yeah like what yep so random what happened to waterbeds anyway

2235
03:35:21,800 --> 03:35:29,800
i don't know can you buy a waterbed still uh popular in the 70s and 80s offering unique

2236
03:35:29,800 --> 03:35:36,040
pressure relief and blah blah blah waterbed can you like can you can you can you can you buy a

2237
03:35:36,040 --> 03:35:40,840
waterbed hard side probably pretty nice for thermal regulation way fair

2238
03:35:43,000 --> 03:35:46,680
semi-waveless waterbed mattress like am i is this a thing

2239
03:35:49,960 --> 03:35:56,520
no idea i currently sleep on a california king sized waterbed with my wife

2240
03:35:57,160 --> 03:36:03,400
mine paradox okay color i've yeah i think i think this is a waterbed

2241
03:36:03,400 --> 03:36:15,880
wow complete upholstered wood frame waterbed premium strobel hydro support 1600 inch semi-waveless

2242
03:36:15,880 --> 03:36:24,280
waterbed mattress upholstered frame blah blah blah go figure they're heated right i mean they'd

2243
03:36:24,280 --> 03:36:33,240
have to be otherwise you'd be so cold ladder type single can they tell that from a urine sample

2244
03:36:33,400 --> 03:36:48,840
what i wonder if they could tell if you were active or not i mean probably i think maybe i

2245
03:36:48,840 --> 03:36:57,560
yeah i'd think so anyways uh any other topics i don't know maybe oh we should oh yeah oh we do

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2269
03:39:07,800 --> 03:39:14,760
like genuinely nothing overwatch too is now overwatch remember when it was supposed to be a

2270
03:39:14,760 --> 03:39:19,000
different game from the first one including special hero missions new pve story tech trees and more

2271
03:39:20,520 --> 03:39:24,760
well i guess it still is but now it's just overwatch okay

2272
03:39:27,640 --> 03:39:33,480
okay cool remember everyone's just a rename right yeah we'll remember well yeah again

2273
03:39:34,600 --> 03:39:44,360
what about second rename yeah man what a bag fumble a bag fumble okay yes

2274
03:39:44,360 --> 03:39:50,680
just overwatch like it was such it was such a huge thing and then it feels like they just

2275
03:39:51,400 --> 03:39:56,680
oh sorry did the pve die oh okay apparently the pve never came that's hilarious yeah that's

2276
03:39:56,680 --> 03:40:03,640
awesome apparently they never did any of it yeah oh okay cool yeah sorry i i did i'm not a big

2277
03:40:03,640 --> 03:40:08,680
overwatch guy i thought overwatch two had been officially flagged as no more like a long time ago

2278
03:40:09,640 --> 03:40:14,280
i just i remember the joke being back when they launched overwatch two that it was the whole

2279
03:40:14,280 --> 03:40:19,000
thing was stupid because it was obviously a live service game anyway so what was the point of even

2280
03:40:19,000 --> 03:40:24,280
calling it that'd be like calling fortnite fortnite two arbitrarily one day yeah okay okay cool and

2281
03:40:24,280 --> 03:40:30,440
then that ended up being even more true than we thought and made fun of at the time yeah crazy

2282
03:40:30,440 --> 03:40:35,560
oh okay i was actually really excited about the pve i thought it'd be fun that's cool because again

2283
03:40:35,560 --> 03:40:40,120
the t the pve had stories and tech trees and stuff like it sounded like the way it was described

2284
03:40:40,120 --> 03:40:45,560
it sounded actually like really cool oh yeah and then blizzard again was like nothing what does blizzard

2285
03:40:45,560 --> 03:40:51,800
do that's good right now people like diablo still right i i think most people are more into PoE than

2286
03:40:51,800 --> 03:40:59,400
diablo if you're in that style of the game really i think so okay oh oh chat past effects

2287
03:40:59,400 --> 03:41:05,320
no no i don't yeah chat says nothing yeah i think they're just mostly declining literally nothing

2288
03:41:05,880 --> 03:41:12,360
like how well no uh wow diablo immortal no wow is declining i'm pretty sure

2289
03:41:13,240 --> 03:41:20,600
is it i thought it's pretty steady it's like gotta be uh wow subscriber count i don't know if they

2290
03:41:20,600 --> 03:41:29,560
publish it anymore wow quietly revealed a nine million subscriber number oh i mean estimates

2291
03:41:29,560 --> 03:41:36,440
not actually confirmed by blizzard according to zego rim okay on r slash pc gaming all classic

2292
03:41:36,440 --> 03:41:44,520
is getting kind of big how does that make it would it not have peaked a long time ago

2293
03:41:44,920 --> 03:41:51,160
i don't know if that's is it getting bigger is there are there any numbers on that how does

2294
03:41:51,160 --> 03:41:55,080
anyone know anything retell is still good

2295
03:41:59,000 --> 03:42:07,000
hmm okay anything else book or says blizzard's just a zombie as far as i know yeah i know they

2296
03:42:07,000 --> 03:42:11,080
stopped reporting subscribers a long time ago apparently they peaked at 12 million according

2297
03:42:11,160 --> 03:42:19,720
to an ai summary um back when they did report it raf that was uh like 2007 2010 i think was

2298
03:42:19,720 --> 03:42:25,800
when it said they peaked okay sure that might be more accurate i think 2007 was tbc i mean they

2299
03:42:25,800 --> 03:42:32,360
definitely still have millions of monthly paying subscribers so it's not like yeah but you're i don't

2300
03:42:33,080 --> 03:42:36,760
feel like it's a growth sector for them i think anyone's excited about especially if we're looking

2301
03:42:36,840 --> 03:42:42,520
at retail like when's the last time retail was like a really exciting thing for people online

2302
03:42:42,520 --> 03:42:47,160
outside of just the people who already play retail already oh yikes sticklier says that

2303
03:42:47,160 --> 03:42:51,960
12 million number was also a lie because it included pay by the hour pc cafes which counted

2304
03:42:51,960 --> 03:42:59,080
a single hour as a subscriber whoops no he says remember when hearthstone was very popular yeah

2305
03:42:59,080 --> 03:43:05,240
what happened to hearthstone is fantastic uh it's just it's just like most blizzard properties like

2306
03:43:05,240 --> 03:43:11,480
as far as my understanding goes it's fine but they're in that like holding pattern of like

2307
03:43:11,480 --> 03:43:15,560
they're not really necessarily getting a ton of new users so now they're they're catering to

2308
03:43:16,200 --> 03:43:22,120
long-term hardcore experienced players so they're putting more and more heavily mechanically advanced

2309
03:43:22,120 --> 03:43:26,760
cards and systems into the game and a really really deep roster of heroes that you can choose

2310
03:43:26,760 --> 03:43:31,640
and stuff like that which is cool if you've been into it forever and is daunting if you're a new

2311
03:43:31,640 --> 03:43:36,440
player um but they're knowing the people that they're aiming for now like it's not even necessarily

2312
03:43:36,440 --> 03:43:48,280
a bad strategy but it's yeah i think the last new thing blizzard did was overwatch they were

2313
03:43:48,280 --> 03:43:54,520
kind of on a bit of a tear there for a while here's the storm hearthstone overwatch and then they

2314
03:43:54,520 --> 03:44:00,360
kind of just i mean and for all the hate that they're getting for devil immortal it's not like

2315
03:44:00,360 --> 03:44:08,920
a lot of people weren't freaking playing that like really smoked um like how would i get a

2316
03:44:08,920 --> 03:44:15,880
player count for that uh but i'm yeah because it's it's all through blizzard's own launcher right so

2317
03:44:15,880 --> 03:44:23,800
i can't just look at steam stats or anything do you have a little mortal revenue do they do they

2318
03:44:23,880 --> 03:44:27,640
publish this uh people are saying some pretty high numbers

2319
03:44:35,240 --> 03:44:39,000
the devil immortal is a mobile game then that's why you don't know about it

2320
03:44:40,840 --> 03:44:43,800
oh well i mean i don't have a phone so yeah

2321
03:44:45,960 --> 03:44:50,200
this is uh this is actually this is actually a great this is actually a great reddit post

2322
03:44:50,840 --> 03:44:54,040
i played it for about a month during that time i joined a guild and was chatting with a

2323
03:44:54,040 --> 03:44:57,960
few of my new guildmates asked them if they were pumped about diablo 4 coming out and if they were

2324
03:44:57,960 --> 03:45:03,960
going to play it zero out of three had any idea that diablo 4 was coming out in two months or

2325
03:45:03,960 --> 03:45:10,760
had any means of playing it both of those two players were paid to win mobile gamers are so

2326
03:45:10,760 --> 03:45:16,520
different from other types of gamers you and i talking on the diablo 4 subreddit like you got

2327
03:45:16,520 --> 03:45:21,560
to zoom out every once in a while and realize we are talking about completely different people

2328
03:45:21,560 --> 03:45:27,400
doing completely different stuff having absolutely no idea what exists outside of their mobile gaming

2329
03:45:27,400 --> 03:45:40,200
bundle bubble bubble bubble bubble wild hey imagine playing diablo immortal and not knowing

2330
03:45:40,920 --> 03:45:47,640
that diablo 4 is coming it is hard for me to wrap my brain around that

2331
03:45:50,680 --> 03:45:56,920
but what i can wrap my brain around is that i'm a little frustrated about what went on with the 9850

2332
03:45:56,920 --> 03:46:05,080
x3d so we had our video on it where we concluded that it ran faster and didn't consume a ton more

2333
03:46:05,160 --> 03:46:11,720
power than the 9800 x3d which led us to conclude that it AMD wasn't really like juicing this thing

2334
03:46:11,720 --> 03:46:15,880
super hard in order to squeeze more performance out of it it looks like we might have just gotten a

2335
03:46:15,880 --> 03:46:24,360
really good chip and in the age of clock speeds up to as opposed to here's how fast it runs and

2336
03:46:24,360 --> 03:46:29,960
here's the voltage and here's the power consumption this is something that is only going to become

2337
03:46:30,040 --> 03:46:36,760
more of a problem rather than less of a problem it used to be that people would there were conspiracy

2338
03:46:36,760 --> 03:46:42,600
theories that Intel and AMD and NVIDIA they would they would provide golden chips to reviewers and

2339
03:46:42,600 --> 03:46:48,440
then the real product wouldn't perform as well and that was always kind of dismissed as as conspiracy

2340
03:46:48,440 --> 03:46:53,720
theory nonsense because it was but now whether it's intentional or not that is something that can

2341
03:46:53,720 --> 03:47:02,440
absolutely happen so user sugio lover published 17 results of their bind risen 7 9850 x3d 13

2342
03:47:03,560 --> 03:47:09,800
yeah 13 excuse me uh confirming that this chip is virtually an overclocked 9800 x3d just using

2343
03:47:09,800 --> 03:47:14,840
higher voltages to achieve the chip's 400 megahertz higher boost clock when cross-reference to hardware

2344
03:47:14,840 --> 03:47:21,160
lux's results on the 9800 x3d it shows the large difference in core voltage between the two out

2345
03:47:21,160 --> 03:47:28,120
of the 9800 x3d's published the slowest chip hit a single core boost clock of 5.6 11 gigahertz

2346
03:47:28,120 --> 03:47:36,200
while the most using the most voltage of 1.348 volts going back to the 9850 x3d almost all the

2347
03:47:36,200 --> 03:47:42,280
chips hit a similar clock speed while hovering around 1.31 so are they a little better it seems like

2348
03:47:43,080 --> 03:47:53,000
yes but not by as much as we might like to call it a new product when we compare the best 9850 x3d's

2349
03:47:53,000 --> 03:48:01,480
to the 9800 x3d the 9800 x3d uses about 13 more voltage which to be clear for these kinds of

2350
03:48:01,480 --> 03:48:09,160
microprocessors 13 more voltages that's a lot more voltage yeah but it is worth noting that

2351
03:48:09,960 --> 03:48:15,160
tom's hardware found that their 9850 x3d consumed about 30 percent more power for only a 3 percent

2352
03:48:15,160 --> 03:48:21,160
average performance improvement over their 9800 x3d so basically what we're seeing is there's

2353
03:48:21,800 --> 03:48:29,080
a lot of overlap between the worst 9850 x3d's and the best 9800 x3d's once you start to play around

2354
03:48:29,080 --> 03:48:35,400
with power profiles and voltages and i'm a little frustrated that we've reached the point where in

2355
03:48:35,400 --> 03:48:40,520
order to review a CPU it almost feels like you have to have five of them sourced from five different

2356
03:48:40,520 --> 03:48:46,280
places as opposed to just testing one and being able to report the performance that you get

2357
03:48:49,720 --> 03:48:53,960
that's all thank you for coming to my ted talk i'm just a little i'm just a little irritated

2358
03:48:53,960 --> 03:48:58,760
right now because it's one of those things where as you guys might imagine i have a little bit of

2359
03:48:58,760 --> 03:49:06,520
sensitivity around us you know publishing data in our videos do you think you'd have to

2360
03:49:06,520 --> 03:49:12,040
potentially go multi-country i don't i don't actually think you'd have to do that but i do

2361
03:49:12,040 --> 03:49:18,440
think there could be some value i was going to say to different batches but even then i don't i

2362
03:49:18,440 --> 03:49:22,840
don't even think that's likely to matter is because that's why i said different batches you i feel

2363
03:49:22,840 --> 03:49:28,040
like your chance of different batch would go up maybe if you in multi-country i just don't i i think

2364
03:49:28,040 --> 03:49:35,640
batches used to probably be more of a thing than they are today i remember chatting with the the

2365
03:49:35,640 --> 03:49:46,920
folks that Intel when i did the fab tour there and i i'm not going to disclose any numbers or

2366
03:49:46,920 --> 03:49:57,880
anything but there is a possibility of having a perfect wafer it turns out and what they told me

2367
03:49:58,280 --> 03:50:06,840
about that led me to believe that batch to batch probably doesn't really matter that much because

2368
03:50:06,840 --> 03:50:13,400
there's so many variables even within the multiple dies on a single wafer that at the end of the

2369
03:50:13,400 --> 03:50:18,600
day it's all probably gonna pretty much come out in the wash if you have more than a small handful

2370
03:50:18,600 --> 03:50:26,040
of chips yeah what are the topics that we got left uh oh one of the topics that i wanted to discuss

2371
03:50:26,040 --> 03:50:37,720
is there's been um a fair bit of conversation on social media about oh LMG's willingness to invest

2372
03:50:37,720 --> 03:50:46,440
in in pay for for its employees and i just wanted to kind of put this to rest again i feel like we

2373
03:50:46,440 --> 03:50:54,440
we did the how does LMG spend money video recently and i uh i i laid out you know how much more

2374
03:50:54,440 --> 03:51:07,320
LMG has spent on employee salaries going from 2024 to 2025 um and it seems like that didn't

2375
03:51:07,320 --> 03:51:13,240
really i don't know that didn't really sink in or it didn't really um it didn't really

2376
03:51:16,200 --> 03:51:21,000
reach far enough i'm not i'm not sure but basically i've always believed sunlight is the best

2377
03:51:21,080 --> 03:51:26,760
disinfectant so i actually asked accounting to put together some additional numbers okay

2378
03:51:26,760 --> 03:51:36,360
and here it is revenue and wage growth since 2018 so we i've talked about this both i think on

2379
03:51:36,360 --> 03:51:44,360
wanshow as well as in how does LMG spend money um revenue had struggled to grow for a couple of

2380
03:51:44,360 --> 03:51:52,920
years after 2022 in spite of that a combination of hiring more people but not really that many

2381
03:51:52,920 --> 03:51:59,080
our headcount today is actually pretty similar to what it was in 2022 2023 so it's a combination

2382
03:51:59,080 --> 03:52:04,600
of increased compensation for the people that are here as well as hiring additional people

2383
03:52:04,600 --> 03:52:11,560
has seen our investment in people continue to increase even when our revenue has been quite

2384
03:52:11,560 --> 03:52:16,200
flat so sorry this is a bit of a this is a little bit confusing because this says growth and this

2385
03:52:16,200 --> 03:52:21,400
says growth uh but that's not actually it these are these are absolute values uh relative to

2386
03:52:21,400 --> 03:52:26,280
each other so that doesn't mean they're both using the same y-axis it just means that we are looking

2387
03:52:26,280 --> 03:52:30,680
at how these things track compared to oh wait wait wait no no i do remember sorry sorry sorry

2388
03:52:30,680 --> 03:52:37,880
josh explain this to me uh growth is relative to 2018 so this is how much more than 2018 it is

2389
03:52:38,680 --> 03:52:43,400
and then there's a different view that is a little bit easier for me to wrap my brain around

2390
03:52:43,400 --> 03:52:49,320
and that's how much percentage change so this is zero over the previous year so

2391
03:52:50,200 --> 03:52:56,680
wage growth outpaced revenue growth in 2019 revenue growth outpaced wage growth in 2020

2392
03:52:56,680 --> 03:53:02,920
they were both about the same in 2021 revenue growth outpaced wage growth a little bit in 2022

2393
03:53:02,920 --> 03:53:11,080
and then into 23 and 24 wage growth outpaced revenue growth dramatically and then there uh

2394
03:53:11,080 --> 03:53:16,520
they had those are reversed with revenue growth outpacing wage growth in 2025 but not by not by

2395
03:53:16,520 --> 03:53:22,440
very much it's pretty close like about like what we saw in 2019 then there's profit so i've talked

2396
03:53:22,440 --> 03:53:31,320
about this before as well this is all relative to 2018 so in 2022 because you're seeing that

2397
03:53:31,320 --> 03:53:39,320
increased investment in people um happen when revenue is flat that obviously has an impact

2398
03:53:39,320 --> 03:53:50,520
on profitability right neat right and then this is the year on year look so year on year

2399
03:53:50,520 --> 03:53:57,720
we had a pretty big dip in profit in 2023 and things are a little bit more on pace with each

2400
03:53:57,720 --> 03:54:05,880
other in 2024 and 2025 but as you can see even though revenues recovered a little bit in 2025

2401
03:54:06,520 --> 03:54:13,080
profitability is still has its own struggles just because there are other overhead concerns aside

2402
03:54:13,080 --> 03:54:23,240
from just salaries so just wanted to make it very very clear that LMG continues has and continues

2403
03:54:23,240 --> 03:54:30,840
to invest in people and uh that applies both to key members that we want to keep here on the team

2404
03:54:30,840 --> 03:54:33,640
as well as to new hires

2405
03:54:41,160 --> 03:54:47,800
in other news five Ryzen nine thousands were killed in a single day by as rock motherboards

2406
03:54:47,800 --> 03:54:53,720
allegedly as rock has issued a statement saying it's investigating reports of AMD Ryzen

2407
03:54:53,720 --> 03:55:01,320
nine thousands uh failing on its am five motherboards the company says that it is conducting

2408
03:55:01,320 --> 03:55:07,640
internal reviews working with AMD and rolling out BIOS optimizations to improve stability this comes

2409
03:55:07,640 --> 03:55:12,200
after five different reddit posts claiming multiple Ryzen 9000 chips across different models stopped

2410
03:55:12,200 --> 03:55:17,240
working with some cases showing systems unable to boot even after BIOS updates in most of these

2411
03:55:17,240 --> 03:55:21,800
reports the chips are getting hot enough to leave scorch marks on the CPU and socket and tom's

2412
03:55:21,800 --> 03:55:28,920
hardware found around 350 reports of the same issue albeit not albeit those ones are not verified

2413
03:55:28,920 --> 03:55:32,840
so our discussion question here is when hardware failures start trending online how much should

2414
03:55:32,840 --> 03:55:38,280
consumers rely on these anecdotal reports versus official failure rate numbers

2415
03:55:39,160 --> 03:55:40,680
uh

2416
03:55:45,320 --> 03:55:50,520
yikes that's tough uh anecdotes are important i don't think anecdotes should just be ignored

2417
03:55:53,800 --> 03:56:02,680
official failure rate data though might take a really long time and i think you should be

2418
03:56:02,920 --> 03:56:10,760
aware of the anecdotes just in case there isn't official failure rate data

2419
03:56:10,760 --> 03:56:17,560
also um where did the official failure rate data come from yeah i wish i could

2420
03:56:19,000 --> 03:56:28,440
who would i trust today if they gave me like internal failure rates who would you trust

2421
03:56:29,400 --> 03:56:36,360
internal failure rates i'd trust Noctua okay if Noctua published a failure rate which i don't

2422
03:56:36,360 --> 03:56:40,840
think they ever would but if they did i think i'd believe them is there anyone else you can think

2423
03:56:40,840 --> 03:56:53,400
of that you would believe i don't mean to offend i think effectively no one um i think it's like

2424
03:56:54,360 --> 03:57:02,120
and and this this isn't because i'm like companies are evil um it's like

2425
03:57:03,640 --> 03:57:10,920
there's always the potential of a perverse incentive at every company everywhere um there's

2426
03:57:10,920 --> 03:57:17,960
always the potential there are companies where i think it might happen less uh i am very ignorant

2427
03:57:17,960 --> 03:57:23,640
to the reality of a lot of those companies like like yeah my gut check says that Noctua is probably

2428
03:57:23,640 --> 03:57:29,480
going to be legit about it but do i have any idea how Noctua functions as a company not in the slightest

2429
03:57:30,760 --> 03:57:35,320
i think i probably have a little more insight than you like talk to them i've literally never

2430
03:57:35,320 --> 03:57:41,880
talked but not much because i'm still i'm not just taking them at their word like they they've said

2431
03:57:41,880 --> 03:57:46,520
over and over again like we cared about this and we made it quiet and reliable and we care about

2432
03:57:46,600 --> 03:57:50,200
measurements and engineering and testing and then and then that has borne out

2433
03:57:50,920 --> 03:57:55,240
so many times that i that i've built there's a track record going on yeah there's there's a

2434
03:57:55,240 --> 03:57:59,880
track record but you're not you're not in uh meetings with them see how they deal with management

2435
03:57:59,880 --> 03:58:04,120
no i'm not so who knows there there might be a perverse incentive somewhere which could

2436
03:58:04,680 --> 03:58:09,880
push someone to skew things a little bit like you never you never know i haven't met every

2437
03:58:09,880 --> 03:58:15,880
single person who works at Noctua that's for sure no so there are there are companies that i would

2438
03:58:15,960 --> 03:58:22,520
see that data from and believe more there are companies that i'd see that data from and believe

2439
03:58:22,520 --> 03:58:26,920
less fax on says i would want third party i'd trust pujit systems

2440
03:58:31,080 --> 03:58:37,960
pujit they're pretty freaking legit they're pretty based they're pretty freaking based i've met john

2441
03:58:38,760 --> 03:58:44,120
he's pretty based that's one that i would i would index quite high in the

2442
03:58:45,080 --> 03:58:49,000
but but for basically all the and when i say third party this is this is a problem with all

2443
03:58:49,000 --> 03:58:54,520
of these situations a third party can't be hired by them we have seen this we've literally seen

2444
03:58:54,520 --> 03:58:59,240
this happen which one when that data gets skewed there was an Intel one a bunch of years back

2445
03:58:59,240 --> 03:59:03,800
we talked about on my show i'm talking about principled technologies are you maybe that was it

2446
03:59:03,800 --> 03:59:09,640
where the like benchmark data was was off i think that is what i'm talking about um it's not

2447
03:59:09,640 --> 03:59:16,440
failure rate data but like i'm just talking about almost any data sure sure sure sure and i think

2448
03:59:16,440 --> 03:59:21,000
that i think that my bar would be lower for our private conversation versus something that they

2449
03:59:21,000 --> 03:59:28,200
published like if like if us if an si for instance told me like yeah we've seen a 50% failure rate on

2450
03:59:28,200 --> 03:59:33,400
these bloody things in the field that's very talk and shop higher numbers also make me believe it

2451
03:59:33,400 --> 03:59:37,880
way more and and and i would and i would like somebody said 50% failure rate i would just

2452
03:59:37,880 --> 03:59:43,720
believe it especially if if we're talking as and the context of the conversation matters as well

2453
03:59:43,720 --> 03:59:48,040
like we're talking as business owners yes and if i was talking about like oh yeah you know we had

2454
03:59:48,040 --> 03:59:52,920
this issue with our backpack where the stupid bloody supplier didn't and they're like oh my god i'm

2455
03:59:52,920 --> 03:59:57,240
going through this right now it's horrible yeah we're getting we're getting over half of our you

2456
03:59:57,240 --> 04:00:02,040
know whatever card x is failing in the field and it's costing me a fortune and warranty returns

2457
04:00:02,040 --> 04:00:06,600
like where you're swapping war stories yeah a little bit like that the context sound to believe

2458
04:00:06,600 --> 04:00:13,160
that a little bit more matters uh slithery says falcon falcon is another si actually two si is on

2459
04:00:13,160 --> 04:00:18,840
my list that i think i think if kel told me something i'd be like yeah because he just man that guy

2460
04:00:18,840 --> 04:00:24,360
cares so much i don't think i've met almost anyone else in the industry who's been in it as long as

2461
04:00:24,360 --> 04:00:30,280
him and just like been through the ringer as much as him and uh because you got to remember falcon's

2462
04:00:30,280 --> 04:00:36,760
not a volume company yeah like they've never looked kind of like pujit they've they've stayed in their

2463
04:00:36,760 --> 04:00:45,000
lane and excelled in their niche but not like scaled right like like he's not hanging out on

2464
04:00:45,000 --> 04:00:51,960
his yacht you know every other every other weekend like he's he's he's he's he works you know and uh

2465
04:00:52,600 --> 04:00:59,640
and so he's just been kind of working as an si so this is back when i was at ncix you just you

2466
04:00:59,640 --> 04:01:05,640
get kind of screwed on everything you get screwed on pricing you get screwed on allocation you get

2467
04:01:05,640 --> 04:01:11,080
screwed on support like you go and you list this stuff and you say yeah it's compatible but like oh

2468
04:01:11,080 --> 04:01:17,320
my god i didn't even get any of these until yesterday and i or you know a few weeks ago to do a bit of

2469
04:01:17,320 --> 04:01:22,520
like validation and testing but like i don't have the engineering resources that an AMD or an Intel

2470
04:01:22,520 --> 04:01:28,200
or an NVIDIA has so i'm like i'm doing my best with like open source tools or community built tools

2471
04:01:28,440 --> 04:01:34,200
um like it's it's just it's a really tough business and yeah kelts still kelts still super

2472
04:01:34,840 --> 04:01:40,360
super passionate which is impressive cool guy the thing about an si though is they're not

2473
04:01:40,360 --> 04:01:46,920
really throwing their own product under the bus they could be they have their own cases don't they

2474
04:01:47,560 --> 04:01:51,240
yeah um one of their stuff's overheating

2475
04:01:52,200 --> 04:02:00,760
yeah yeah i think even then though there's it's like a shared blame whereas i think i would have a

2476
04:02:00,760 --> 04:02:10,600
harder time believing someone's data on their own product like if i told you guys a failure rate for

2477
04:02:10,600 --> 04:02:18,280
LTT screwdriver i think that would be harder for you to believe versus if i told you guys a failure

2478
04:02:18,280 --> 04:02:25,480
rate for our mold maker making the handles or something like that it's hard to admit your

2479
04:02:25,480 --> 04:02:32,600
own fault and i think that we intuitively know that and we trust people less when they're when

2480
04:02:32,600 --> 04:02:36,600
they are so you you came back to what's the motivation behind the conversation if you say

2481
04:02:36,600 --> 04:02:43,320
the failure rate of the mold maker that to me comes across as like woe is me our expenses are high

2482
04:02:43,320 --> 04:02:49,400
and i'm trying to spin our quality control yeah rejecting those failures if it's further down the

2483
04:02:49,400 --> 04:02:56,120
line then it you you risk the incompetence angle that's right or i'm throwing a member of my team

2484
04:02:56,120 --> 04:03:01,960
under the bus which obviously i would have more sensitivity about versus throwing some random

2485
04:03:01,960 --> 04:03:06,040
under the bus right yeah you don't have to deal with those like if i had to throw it for some

2486
04:03:06,040 --> 04:03:12,040
reason i had to throw kyle under the bus for something i would i would want to sugarcoat it

2487
04:03:12,040 --> 04:03:17,720
yeah i would want to at least a little that is a form of perverse incentive this this the whole

2488
04:03:17,720 --> 04:03:24,520
thing's a mess um basically i wouldn't i wouldn't blindly trust any of these numbers but um do with

2489
04:03:24,520 --> 04:03:31,400
any of them what you will i'm just trying i want to check out chat um oh hi josh says what about

2490
04:03:31,400 --> 04:03:38,200
seasonic seasonic i don't know i like i i can see their behavior as building quality products and

2491
04:03:38,200 --> 04:03:44,600
standing behind them but i don't like know that many people there like our rep is amazing he's

2492
04:03:44,600 --> 04:03:50,600
like the coolest guy ever and if he was the ceo of the company i'd be like yeah because he is based

2493
04:03:51,720 --> 04:03:56,520
but i i don't know the like senior leadership there the way that i do knock to our falcon

2494
04:03:56,520 --> 04:04:04,040
appugia where i've like actually met them and had conversations with them um you know what

2495
04:04:04,040 --> 04:04:12,920
else is here yeah not much man bits of bits says what about LTT Store i hear those guys are a thing

2496
04:04:12,920 --> 04:04:19,400
this might uh be spooky but no really yeah okay for the exact same reason i already gave

2497
04:04:22,200 --> 04:04:28,600
the perverse incentives you mean yeah yeah they are impossible to 100 get rid of in my opinion

2498
04:04:28,600 --> 04:04:35,560
tell me something tell me something because what i'll say is i wouldn't publish that i wouldn't

2499
04:04:35,560 --> 04:04:41,080
publish it if it was good and i wouldn't publish it if it was bad so for that is this part of why

2500
04:04:41,080 --> 04:04:49,560
so for that reason if i was to publish it do you think i would question my motivation

2501
04:04:50,200 --> 04:04:55,960
i would question your motivation i think there are motivations that could exist that would make me

2502
04:04:55,960 --> 04:05:03,000
fairly strongly believe it sure like there'd have to be a reason like why am i why am i talking about

2503
04:05:03,000 --> 04:05:08,760
you know our our expenses well there's a reason there's because somebody has raised this as as a

2504
04:05:08,760 --> 04:05:17,640
thing um like if you're not gonna win that war with the cables no with the because uh um

2505
04:05:18,600 --> 04:05:27,560
because you're trying to you're trying to win a questioning war with transparency but legally

2506
04:05:27,560 --> 04:05:34,840
cannot be i don't think you can no i can't be fully transparent yeah but what i can say is

2507
04:05:34,840 --> 04:05:41,400
objectively we are making the investments that people seem to think that we're not but then

2508
04:05:42,360 --> 04:05:48,040
but this is the problem because the the questions are infinite and then and your problem is if there

2509
04:05:48,040 --> 04:05:55,000
is a question at all on the internet you'll find it oh yeah and then that bothers um i mean i think

2510
04:05:55,000 --> 04:06:01,480
i've said about as much as there is to say at this point okay for this one um you know the the simple

2511
04:06:01,480 --> 04:06:08,920
fact is that whether it's through hiring more support or whether it's through scaling salaries

2512
04:06:09,000 --> 04:06:15,720
we have in spite of in spite of stagnant revenue over the last few years and declining profits

2513
04:06:15,720 --> 04:06:23,080
we have continued to invest in both and you would never in a thousand years

2514
04:06:23,640 --> 04:06:31,800
pry the exact reasons out of me for any single employees you know pay scaling in fact in most

2515
04:06:31,800 --> 04:06:37,000
cases this may surprise you he doesn't know i don't do everything and i don't even know

2516
04:06:37,800 --> 04:06:43,960
right and so you would never you you'd never get that out of me because just to to force you

2517
04:06:43,960 --> 04:06:49,720
shouldn't yeah no i agree to force it back to the topic at hand yeah this is part of the reason

2518
04:06:49,720 --> 04:06:56,360
for my comment about the cw stuff it has genuinely nothing negative to do with cw yeah the reason

2519
04:06:56,360 --> 04:07:03,560
for that comment for me is that it scales into everything and that included my own and that's

2520
04:07:03,560 --> 04:07:08,120
how i view cw is not mine but that's how i that's how i viewed it in that context was like i would

2521
04:07:08,120 --> 04:07:15,080
still question it because like the second you start getting into distributed work which is like any

2522
04:07:15,080 --> 04:07:23,960
company ever that has employees um there's weird stuff going on there's weird stuff going on everywhere

2523
04:07:23,960 --> 04:07:29,560
and like what if what if someone's goals very nobly it's like hey let's get failure rate down

2524
04:07:30,440 --> 04:07:36,040
let's make the products more reliable yeah and one of the ways that they can get their bonus or

2525
04:07:36,040 --> 04:07:43,080
whatever is by being like numbers one percent higher nice got it yeah the stuff might happen

2526
04:07:43,080 --> 04:07:48,760
and i'd have no way of knowing that no like i could stand here and i could i could pass

2527
04:07:48,760 --> 04:07:52,760
information along to you guys that i might not even know as bad and i love the cw people they're

2528
04:07:52,760 --> 04:08:01,800
great yeah but just like any company like people come in people people leave yeah things change

2529
04:08:01,800 --> 04:08:08,440
yeah so like i don't know i don't know man like i'm sitting here going like and and and and it's

2530
04:08:08,440 --> 04:08:13,400
hard to divorce ourselves i am asking zero people to blindly trust the information from Labs

2531
04:08:14,760 --> 04:08:19,080
yeah and i never have well we all we've always said you should get multiple sources exactly and

2532
04:08:19,080 --> 04:08:25,160
that's the inherent problem here is there is no multiple source exactly that i'm falling back

2533
04:08:25,160 --> 04:08:30,520
to the same argument we have always fallen back to but it's hard to it's hard to divorce myself

2534
04:08:30,520 --> 04:08:39,720
from personal trust if kyle told me i would believe him but that's a different thing that's well

2535
04:08:40,520 --> 04:08:46,440
because maybe he maybe maybe there's there's a there's a required efficiency in order to live

2536
04:08:46,440 --> 04:08:51,080
in a certain amount of trust in in people around you and i think in your situation i just thought

2537
04:08:51,080 --> 04:08:55,800
i think he's earned it like he doesn't hide things from me i don't find out about things later

2538
04:08:55,800 --> 04:08:59,960
particularly with kyle but i'm talking about from the perspective of an audience member

2539
04:08:59,960 --> 04:09:05,960
and i can't tell that audience member to do that no yeah no you're right if i if i'm trying to

2540
04:09:05,960 --> 04:09:12,040
give this audience member uh i think the the modern people say chat if i'm trying to give chat

2541
04:09:12,520 --> 04:09:20,840
um good advice on how to like you know approach things and conduct themselves and whatnot yeah

2542
04:09:21,640 --> 04:09:26,440
blindly believe us because we're cool company is like not the law we will we'd never say that but

2543
04:09:26,440 --> 04:09:32,120
that's my point so it's it has no it's no slight against cw again i'm pointing at Labs don't blindly

2544
04:09:32,120 --> 04:09:37,080
believe stuff from Labs either get multiple sources and this is because i'm i'm trying to

2545
04:09:37,720 --> 04:09:43,160
be consistent yeah multiple sources and also i mean logicking your way through things is also

2546
04:09:43,160 --> 04:09:47,560
good too understanding like i've i've always i've always told people when when i talk about

2547
04:09:47,560 --> 04:09:55,240
negotiations is like understand both sides of the table or you have absolutely no shot whatsoever

2548
04:09:55,240 --> 04:10:01,480
of reaching any kind of meaningful agreement right and it's the it's it's like it's the same

2549
04:10:01,480 --> 04:10:06,440
when you're just when you're trying to understand why people are doing the things that they're

2550
04:10:06,440 --> 04:10:10,760
doing i think it's very easy to assume that someone is doing something because they're

2551
04:10:10,760 --> 04:10:16,600
a malicious monster because they're a big dummy or whatever but most of the time that's not the

2552
04:10:16,600 --> 04:10:27,240
case so if we so if we sit and we go okay you know what would be his motivation for representing

2553
04:10:27,240 --> 04:10:36,680
this failure rate or this or or this data uh in in this particular way i think it can help us

2554
04:10:36,680 --> 04:10:42,840
and and maybe that's where the context of the conversation comes in because if someone is trying

2555
04:10:42,840 --> 04:10:47,480
to go all around this yeah if they're trying to impress you with how much loss they've absorbed

2556
04:10:47,480 --> 04:10:51,960
this quarter if it's a game of one upmanship then if anything you might think they might exaggerate

2557
04:10:52,600 --> 04:10:58,920
whereas if they're trying to sell you a big contract to use their systems the last thing

2558
04:10:58,920 --> 04:11:03,160
that they're going to want to bring up is that 50% of the ssds they're using have failed in the last

2559
04:11:03,160 --> 04:11:07,640
quarter if someone's trying to sell their company they want it to look like an extremely well-oiled

2560
04:11:07,640 --> 04:11:12,040
machine with low failure rates if someone's trying to get sympathy from their customers

2561
04:11:12,840 --> 04:11:16,520
they might try to point that their failure rates are really high because their quality control is

2562
04:11:16,520 --> 04:11:25,160
really high there are reasons all over the place all over the place constantly um that

2563
04:11:27,240 --> 04:11:32,920
yeah especially the no i don't know if that's true i was going to say especially bigger companies

2564
04:11:33,480 --> 04:11:41,880
because there are like smaller factions with their own goals that um the people you might know

2565
04:11:42,360 --> 04:11:48,280
might not even know those people exist that are that are causing things to kind of happen

2566
04:11:48,280 --> 04:11:52,520
within these spaces and it gets it gets a little bit crazy so yeah i don't know you could use it

2567
04:11:52,520 --> 04:11:57,160
as information yeah there you go you could use it as information i would prefer if it came from

2568
04:11:57,160 --> 04:12:03,720
more than one source so like if a company claimed that they had some something going on um oh our

2569
04:12:04,360 --> 04:12:10,920
our devices fail only three percent of the time after four years or two years or something

2570
04:12:12,520 --> 04:12:17,320
neat that sounds cool i'm not going to put a ton of stock into that and then if a third party source

2571
04:12:17,320 --> 04:12:23,720
if a creator youtube creator whatever comes out there or a retailer if project farm

2572
04:12:23,720 --> 04:12:29,880
rips their thing apart for whatever reason sure i'm going to put more weight on that

2573
04:12:29,880 --> 04:12:35,880
right okay so but that doesn't necessarily means a non tech creator the exact numbers right right

2574
04:12:35,880 --> 04:12:41,480
right like like if if AMD were to say our CPU failure rates are less than one percent and then

2575
04:12:41,480 --> 04:12:45,480
like a retailer were to come out and say yeah we get less than two percent returns and most of

2576
04:12:45,480 --> 04:12:50,840
them still work that would it would reinforce it at least even if it doesn't mean that i believe

2577
04:12:50,840 --> 04:12:55,240
a hundred percent but i was actually i was i was gonna i was gonna bring this up you said

2578
04:12:55,240 --> 04:12:59,160
you know something about putting more stock in it and that reminded me like some of these companies

2579
04:12:59,160 --> 04:13:09,240
are public companies on the subject of stock and there's in theory legal ramifications for lying

2580
04:13:09,240 --> 04:13:16,600
to investors for instance would you would you believe it anymore if in addressing this Ryzen

2581
04:13:16,600 --> 04:13:23,240
CPU's are dying thing that AMD on a quarterly call said we've investigated it and we found that

2582
04:13:23,240 --> 04:13:27,560
it's actually a failure rate of less than you know point one percent and and we are still

2583
04:13:27,560 --> 04:13:32,920
going to investigate it but it's it's a relatively isolated issue would you believe it even a little

2584
04:13:32,920 --> 04:13:39,400
bit more knowing the sort of the potential legal ramifications around it if you know if a whistle

2585
04:13:39,400 --> 04:13:43,960
war were to come out and say that that's not actually what happened i don't think so is that

2586
04:13:43,960 --> 04:13:50,120
just because of the current zero consequences environment thousand percent yeah yeah nothing

2587
04:13:50,200 --> 04:13:55,880
happens when companies do that so i i wouldn't believe it if if if things did then then yeah

2588
04:13:56,680 --> 04:14:01,960
also i've heard this is true i'm not even trying to get political and i've heard this is just like

2589
04:14:02,600 --> 04:14:10,120
in the in the business world like something you should do but i'm not into it not not night night

2590
04:14:10,120 --> 04:14:16,360
tow hand night oh hand so trump did this with his properties forbes calls it's worth so much put me

2591
04:14:16,360 --> 04:14:20,520
on your super wealthy list whatever irs calls that the building's falling apart it's so worthless

2592
04:14:20,520 --> 04:14:24,040
you should probably charge me less taxes because the property value is lower and like this is

2593
04:14:24,920 --> 04:14:32,200
use trump in that example brother that's people be doing that that's one of the few things that

2594
04:14:32,200 --> 04:14:37,400
i've believed that that man has said over the last decade or so yeah and tons of other people

2595
04:14:37,400 --> 04:14:43,000
that everybody know that everybody does that oh yeah yeah yeah totally like he said everyone

2596
04:14:43,000 --> 04:14:46,920
does it and i was like yep probably yeah like actually um

2597
04:14:54,040 --> 04:15:03,720
we have one more topic space x is acquiring ai startup x ai yeah ahead of a potential ipo

2598
04:15:03,720 --> 04:15:13,400
yeah this yeah so that we can build um data centers in space well okay do you know i know

2599
04:15:13,400 --> 04:15:19,000
it's less stupid than it sounds oh that wasn't where i was going oh okay uh do you know the money

2600
04:15:19,000 --> 04:15:27,480
circle with open ai and oracle and uh NVIDIA and uh whoever else this is like that but like incest

2601
04:15:27,560 --> 04:15:33,560
it's just his own money circle yes i know yeah um but also orbital data centers cool nice

2602
04:15:34,520 --> 04:15:37,880
solar power sick just to hope that you don't have to swap a ramstick

2603
04:15:41,080 --> 04:15:49,080
dude astronaut it people a j in space a j in space i think a j would go to space if we

2604
04:15:49,080 --> 04:15:55,080
really needed him to he probably would i think he probably would based yeah oh no key reminded me

2605
04:15:55,080 --> 04:16:00,440
that uh project farm actually uh did another roundup video that featured one of our products

2606
04:16:01,080 --> 04:16:06,520
this time our precision screwdriver set which is now our precision pro by the way

2607
04:16:07,320 --> 04:16:13,320
yeah included a whole bunch of other ones once again we scored extremely well i mean you should

2608
04:16:13,320 --> 04:16:22,120
obviously watch the whole video but yeah i don't yeah the tl dr is we're up here a lot of the things

2609
04:16:22,200 --> 04:16:28,920
that matter to me a lot we actually scored really well in coming first for subjective

2610
04:16:28,920 --> 04:16:33,400
rating of the swivel end cap first for how comfortable and natural the screwdriver feels

2611
04:16:33,400 --> 04:16:38,920
in the hand first for overall storage case rating for bit retention organization and durability

2612
04:16:38,920 --> 04:16:45,560
and first for bit retention strength so holding on to the bit so that they don't come popping out if

2613
04:16:46,440 --> 04:16:49,960
if you pull the screwdriver back and they're kind of like stuck in a screw a little bit

2614
04:16:50,600 --> 04:16:57,400
one of the areas where we fell short was in the durability of the bits under high pressure

2615
04:16:58,440 --> 04:17:04,440
that was an active decision it's one that not everyone will agree with but i had issues breaking

2616
04:17:04,440 --> 04:17:09,080
bits from other screwdriver sets before and when i talked to the team about it they basically went

2617
04:17:09,080 --> 04:17:16,520
well okay better steel is not necessarily a thing it's do you want a harder steel yeah that's what

2618
04:17:16,520 --> 04:17:22,120
properties you're looking for or do you want like a i forget what the advantages of the slightly

2619
04:17:22,120 --> 04:17:27,160
soft it's all right it's whether they'll bend or whether they will snap will they stay the same

2620
04:17:27,160 --> 04:17:33,880
shape until they snap or will they bend a little bit before they break and be less likely to snap

2621
04:17:33,880 --> 04:17:41,080
and with a precision set we ultimately made the decision to go with one that would not snap under

2622
04:17:41,080 --> 04:17:47,400
duress and that's not a decision that absolutely everyone will agree with yeah but it is one that

2623
04:17:47,400 --> 04:17:56,920
we made nice so yeah it's always very cool to see todd's extremely creative testing methodologies he

2624
04:17:56,920 --> 04:18:06,280
really does have kind of a way of bringing things into the real world whether i necessarily agree

2625
04:18:06,280 --> 04:18:12,440
with absolutely everything he does i would say i would say no i thought the the laptop

2626
04:18:12,440 --> 04:18:17,800
drop test onto the like the bar was a little questionable i think we performed really well

2627
04:18:17,800 --> 04:18:22,680
in it with the the backpack video that he did a little while ago i like that his testing is like

2628
04:18:22,680 --> 04:18:29,720
that though but what i was gonna say yeah is that much like we always say to get multiple perspectives

2629
04:18:30,040 --> 04:18:37,880
i think todd's perspective is extremely valuable completely yeah yeah um and that has just inherently

2630
04:18:37,880 --> 04:18:42,920
in the way that he does his tests yeah there's some that are gonna be imperfect and i think that's

2631
04:18:42,920 --> 04:18:49,320
awesome um and i don't think i i don't desire a change there at all personally

2632
04:18:51,400 --> 04:18:57,240
and i do know that uh p kinetics says if your bits are either stripping or snapping isn't that

2633
04:18:57,240 --> 04:19:03,800
a sign that something ain't right yes which is exactly why i didn't want to go the snapping

2634
04:19:03,800 --> 04:19:07,800
route because you should never be putting that much force on a precision screwdriver bit

2635
04:19:09,160 --> 04:19:17,160
yep yes yes yes the the one time i managed to uh destroy a bunch of precision bits and i

2636
04:19:17,160 --> 04:19:22,840
admit i went through more than i would like to admit was on some apple device that had some hidden

2637
04:19:23,640 --> 04:19:29,000
something that made it so that even though it seemed like it should go it didn't until you

2638
04:19:29,000 --> 04:19:33,720
like unlock something or something i forget the exact details but that was the experience that

2639
04:19:33,720 --> 04:19:39,320
i had that made me ultimately choose not to go for the the snapping kind because it like a piece

2640
04:19:39,320 --> 04:19:44,280
went like flying off of it and i was like oh that's probably not that great bits of bits in

2641
04:19:44,280 --> 04:19:48,440
Floatplane chat said i just make my bits into bits so they become bits of bits

2642
04:19:49,160 --> 04:19:57,720
that's a bit crazy i'm sorry i can't get behind that after dark yeah it's after dark

2643
04:19:57,720 --> 04:19:58,760
let's go boys let's go

2644
04:20:04,520 --> 04:20:11,800
is like let's go like unc slang now i think it is probably yeah nice chat is i mean i'm 35 so

2645
04:20:11,800 --> 04:20:18,360
it's probably fine solid i yeah it's just i've seen that stuff and i'm just like man i don't care

2646
04:20:18,920 --> 04:20:26,600
yeah yeah i am nice yeah sweet sounds good yeah exactly sweet i have no desire to change that

2647
04:20:27,560 --> 04:20:35,080
i'm probably gonna stay sweet forever cool yeah that's what it is i would do this

2648
04:20:35,320 --> 04:20:42,760
oh sorry do you want some more no i'm i don't know why i voiced my internal observation i'm on my

2649
04:20:42,760 --> 04:20:50,520
fourth i think well thirsty today i might have a disorder i probably do uh what's up boys

2650
04:20:51,400 --> 04:20:55,960
do all of you have eight sleep would you recommend it and how do you guys like it

2651
04:20:57,160 --> 04:21:04,680
i have one it's kind of a lifesaver from everything that i've seen externally they seem to be like

2652
04:21:05,320 --> 04:21:09,400
kind of a horrible company they seem to be a horrible company they seem to have horrible

2653
04:21:09,400 --> 04:21:16,200
practices and one of mine died once they did send me a new one but i couldn't tell you for sure

2654
04:21:16,200 --> 04:21:23,960
whether that was just because i'm an influencer i sleep a lot more comfortably on it i sleep a

2655
04:21:23,960 --> 04:21:29,480
lot more comfortably on it if mine dies and i were to have to buy another one i'm going to

2656
04:21:29,480 --> 04:21:34,760
really hope there are good competitors and i can leave but if there wasn't yeah i don't know

2657
04:21:35,960 --> 04:21:47,720
because it really does help a lot i cook and uh the partner does not hear me out and this is a

2658
04:21:47,720 --> 04:21:56,040
pretty common occurrence water bed one side water bed water bed with a heated blanket under her

2659
04:21:59,720 --> 04:22:03,240
uh i think you'd buy one again

2660
04:22:06,120 --> 04:22:10,360
maybe there's alternatives if there was no other choice there's there's no there's no other choice

2661
04:22:10,360 --> 04:22:15,880
it really has done a lot for me i i think you'd do it again i think if it came down to it what

2662
04:22:15,880 --> 04:22:20,280
i would really hope to do is you remember that project where somebody figured out how to like

2663
04:22:20,280 --> 04:22:26,760
hack it to make it local is i would put like a bounty out there to get that going again

2664
04:22:26,920 --> 04:22:30,280
i think that's what i would do

2665
04:22:33,960 --> 04:22:37,800
so it's my oh yeah i had to reset your uh your background i'm sorry about that Linus

2666
04:22:41,560 --> 04:22:48,200
all right uh do make dual zone heated mattresses the problem is that is like the opposite of the

2667
04:22:48,200 --> 04:22:53,400
point yeah he needs it cooled i need it cool he needs it heated it has to be able to do both

2668
04:22:53,400 --> 04:22:58,520
in the winter i was running on they they have this thing where it can like

2669
04:22:58,520 --> 04:23:04,840
track your body heat and and do whatever i turned that off or didn't subscribe to it or something

2670
04:23:04,840 --> 04:23:09,640
i don't have that running i just have it pinned to the lowest possible temperature it can go

2671
04:23:09,640 --> 04:23:15,880
all of the time and do that in the winter he's a warm boy and i still sometimes wake up like

2672
04:23:16,040 --> 04:23:23,000
it's it's surely times says hear me out separate beds like no no there's no way i

2673
04:23:24,120 --> 04:23:29,320
i man i've already like talked about this and i don't think we've ever actually reached a

2674
04:23:29,320 --> 04:23:37,400
conclusion for how bad like tossing and turning or snoring or something would have to be

2675
04:23:37,960 --> 04:23:45,400
for us to sleep in separate beds like it is like it is a key part of of being a couple and

2676
04:23:45,400 --> 04:23:53,000
like there's no way i'm proud of said bamboo cooling sheets trust me bro yeah i did i did

2677
04:23:53,000 --> 04:24:00,600
trust people who suggested that at one point in time trust me they're not magic trust me bro

2678
04:24:00,600 --> 04:24:10,040
they're not magic i'd be cooking okay uh yeah the almighty q says my wife is a popsicle and i'm a

2679
04:24:10,040 --> 04:24:18,840
human heater i feel you this is the standard yeah you got you got generic generic packaged letter a

2680
04:24:19,880 --> 04:24:28,760
yeah all right more yes what's up calm goblers my calm gobbler quote on girl friend instantly

2681
04:24:28,760 --> 04:24:36,840
fix the tv after i had uh floundered for an hour and i'm slow down slow down is that what we've done

2682
04:24:37,080 --> 04:24:42,760
by calling them comms what do you mean calm gobbler

2683
04:24:45,320 --> 04:24:49,320
Dan did you not even understand what you were saying you know he did there's no way

2684
04:24:49,320 --> 04:24:55,240
he is to look at the look on his face see that's the look that's the look of a man who knew exactly

2685
04:24:55,240 --> 04:25:03,560
what he was doing my calm guy in brackets girlfriend is crazy he actually looks like crazy he actually

2686
04:25:03,560 --> 04:25:14,680
looks like this meme which one is i can't believe i can't do this i can't do this he actually did

2687
04:25:14,680 --> 04:25:29,560
this he's this man i do you have any similar stories about your uh sorry uh i she fixed the tv

2688
04:25:29,560 --> 04:25:35,080
after i had floundered for an hour and i was embarrassed do you have any similar stories

2689
04:25:35,080 --> 04:25:41,000
of your partners out to teching you yeah emma emma goes who's the tech boyfriend now that's her line

2690
04:25:41,880 --> 04:25:46,680
i uh look at me i'm the tech boyfriend now my daughter forgot her pin on a samsung phone and

2691
04:25:46,680 --> 04:25:51,400
forgot the password for the samsung account and i said this is going to be more trouble than its

2692
04:25:51,400 --> 04:25:57,480
worth and it's going to cost more to fix than this older phone is probably worth i just i can't be

2693
04:25:57,480 --> 04:26:03,960
bothered and Yvonne goes reset it i can do no no you couldn't reset it unless she's like i'm going

2694
04:26:03,960 --> 04:26:07,880
to go to a kiosk in the mall and i'm going to see if they can do it and they did it it was like 50

2695
04:26:07,880 --> 04:26:15,720
bucks 75 something like that and i was like you were right i was wrong i would know i said it i would

2696
04:26:15,720 --> 04:26:23,560
not have expected that to work it worked it turns out that our whole security it's it's it's tied to

2697
04:26:23,640 --> 04:26:27,480
our account nobody should steal it because it's tied to my account thing is all completely

2698
04:26:28,520 --> 04:26:36,840
all make believe yep cool Linus since you have recent experience in oral care i wanted to get

2699
04:26:36,840 --> 04:26:42,760
your opinion on this i asked my dentist why they still pull teeth with pliers and he replied

2700
04:26:42,760 --> 04:26:48,760
how would you innovate oral care that's a yeah that's a really great question it really is a very

2701
04:26:49,560 --> 04:26:57,160
very unpleasant experience getting uh getting teeth out i if anything i would say like

2702
04:26:58,200 --> 04:27:02,840
you know it'd be kind of cool if they if they had something that like really shaped around the

2703
04:27:02,840 --> 04:27:07,880
tooth so that it you know grabbed it better because when they like slip or like you know

2704
04:27:09,000 --> 04:27:14,200
you know break it off like i freaking i don't know beyond little drones that like flying your

2705
04:27:14,200 --> 04:27:18,440
mouth and blasted out with lasers or something like i i don't really see how you can innovate on

2706
04:27:18,440 --> 04:27:25,160
like rip a rip a thing out of a jawbone you've had teeth out you were awake for your wisdom teeth

2707
04:27:25,160 --> 04:27:30,760
right no oh you we went on yeah they were like no you need to oh because mine were coming in like

2708
04:27:30,760 --> 04:27:38,760
this way one of one of those coming in like totally sideways sweet yeah um and i got all four at once

2709
04:27:38,760 --> 04:27:48,200
right okay yeah i said that i didn't want to do it like i was like no all right solid um oh you

2710
04:27:48,280 --> 04:27:52,920
were impacted yeah i don't i don't really remember the details he uh he was rather convincing to

2711
04:27:52,920 --> 04:28:01,560
the point where if i were correctly he like wasn't going to do it um yeah cool yeah he explained why

2712
04:28:01,560 --> 04:28:07,560
he had to like i don't know but it was because it was mainly because the one of them was coming

2713
04:28:07,560 --> 04:28:12,040
in like completely sideways and he's like yeah it's just like not cool this has to be you're

2714
04:28:12,040 --> 04:28:15,720
going to go down and i was like okay i wonder how many people like a thousand years ago like how

2715
04:28:15,720 --> 04:28:20,200
many people just died of their mouth getting horribly infected and it's spreading to their

2716
04:28:20,200 --> 04:28:25,480
brain a lot like just i mean the the the primary reason why i had to do it was because that thing

2717
04:28:25,480 --> 04:28:31,160
coming in the way that it was yeah meant that it was impossible to get a toothbrush back there

2718
04:28:31,160 --> 04:28:35,000
yeah so there was like so then your mouth would just start rotting out eventually and then you

2719
04:28:35,000 --> 04:28:40,680
then that's bad yeah um yeah it's kind of crazy because like anything that goes wrong with your

2720
04:28:40,680 --> 04:28:48,760
body after your prime childbearing years whatever like it has it has no there's no evolutionary

2721
04:28:48,760 --> 04:28:56,200
disadvantage to it so who cares if your teeth become mangled at 40 you already spread your seed or

2722
04:28:56,760 --> 04:29:09,000
you know did the things yep yep cool hey lld calm check for your home servers what is your

2723
04:29:09,000 --> 04:29:17,320
normal compliment of virtual machines or containers to run all right i just have like a desktop os and

2724
04:29:17,320 --> 04:29:24,680
plex and that's pretty much all i do with mine i have not actually dabbled much yet it's mostly

2725
04:29:24,680 --> 04:29:35,400
been desktop os's um but i will be running image um once i'm switched over once hexos goes out of

2726
04:29:35,960 --> 04:29:42,440
investment disclosure i'm super excited for just simpler setup and and playing around

2727
04:29:42,440 --> 04:29:48,280
with a whole bunch of stuff when i can oh i have a home assistant vm as well i've i've almost always

2728
04:29:48,280 --> 04:29:52,680
only had one system so a lot of things were just running on the same system that i did everything

2729
04:29:52,680 --> 04:29:59,400
else with um and usually i just lived by myself so the impact of that on anyone else was zero

2730
04:29:59,480 --> 04:30:03,960
so if i had to restart my computer it's like well yeah whatever

2731
04:30:07,160 --> 04:30:16,840
sup i'm lld i love the screwdrivers i've lost and broken a few at work a magnetite

2732
04:30:16,840 --> 04:30:22,840
mine the devil's magnetite sounds cool it's like fair sound sounds like mcu stuff

2733
04:30:23,800 --> 04:30:36,360
magnetite strongly magnetic ion oxide mineral cool yeah um why did you invert the mechanism

2734
04:30:36,360 --> 04:30:45,160
from how every other screwdriver i guess like changes the direction and how often am i supposed

2735
04:30:45,160 --> 04:30:49,800
to clean the dirt out of the ratchet okay you're not supposed to get dirt in the ratchet but um

2736
04:30:50,040 --> 04:30:59,400
um i admit that we never thought of ip rating it uh the magnets in the screwdriver just want

2737
04:30:59,400 --> 04:31:05,880
to return to their families right yeah that makes a ton of sense actually uh i i don't i

2738
04:31:05,880 --> 04:31:12,760
literally don't i don't know if i don't know if you can do that that um wow didn't think of that

2739
04:31:12,760 --> 04:31:18,920
as for why we inverted it it's because we're not the only ones snap on also goes the same

2740
04:31:18,920 --> 04:31:25,880
direction that we do and to me it was always more intuitive to go this is the direction

2741
04:31:25,880 --> 04:31:33,320
i am screwing in this is the direction i am unscrewing right now and so we actually put

2742
04:31:33,320 --> 04:31:40,920
significant time and money and energy into a perfectly good ratchet ratchet um selector

2743
04:31:40,920 --> 04:31:45,640
mechanism from mega pro that i really really really really really wanted to go the other way

2744
04:31:46,600 --> 04:31:48,520
because i liked it better that way

2745
04:31:51,080 --> 04:31:58,440
sorry correct call i'm glad you like it then i guess reach out to the support if you want

2746
04:31:58,440 --> 04:32:03,080
cleaning inside i really don't know if they don't even think that's possible yeah well yeah

2747
04:32:03,720 --> 04:32:08,920
how much did it cost to make modified molds for the Floatplane screwdriver kit and will it be

2748
04:32:08,920 --> 04:32:14,520
around for a while in order to justify said molds i'm randomly curious cheaper than you'd think

2749
04:32:14,520 --> 04:32:18,680
the molds for the og screwdriver were really expensive like over a hundred thousand dollars

2750
04:32:18,680 --> 04:32:23,640
for all the molds in fact like a lot over a hundred thousand dollars i'm rusty on the numbers but a

2751
04:32:23,640 --> 04:32:31,880
lot um the molds for the precision screwdriver were done over in china instead of by um itd here

2752
04:32:31,880 --> 04:32:40,840
locally so i think it was like a couple grand i was told the number for like sure the the plate

2753
04:32:41,800 --> 04:32:45,560
with the logo do you want me to say that one if i don't care if it was 500 bucks i don't believe

2754
04:32:45,560 --> 04:32:49,960
you i need multiple sources that was the only reason that i had you say it just because i

2755
04:32:49,960 --> 04:32:56,680
wanted to set that up i mean it's a good point though because i am probably someone who heard

2756
04:32:56,680 --> 04:33:02,680
from someone who heard from someone so like at zelm says china owns your molds now and that is

2757
04:33:02,680 --> 04:33:11,720
exactly the trade-off so you get something made onshore here you own it i own that mold for

2758
04:33:11,720 --> 04:33:17,800
the og screwdriver and that's really really important for a product that i i really don't

2759
04:33:17,800 --> 04:33:27,560
want to be copied um however the molding for a casing for what is the real product is a lot

2760
04:33:27,560 --> 04:33:33,960
less important to me i think it would be harder for someone to replicate the user experience of

2761
04:33:33,960 --> 04:33:40,200
the precision screwdriver simply by having the mold for the plastic shell that sits around it

2762
04:33:40,200 --> 04:33:49,080
so talking specifically this yeah this piece so that's why we make strategic decisions um about

2763
04:33:49,080 --> 04:33:54,600
where we are going to make our molds depending on what their purpose is the og screwdriver also

2764
04:33:54,600 --> 04:33:59,960
needed to be useful for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of cycles and a better

2765
04:33:59,960 --> 04:34:06,280
quality mold will last longer before it needs to be remade that i don't know a few thousand we're

2766
04:34:06,280 --> 04:34:13,240
not going to make a ton of those so it's just not as important that it's a super high quality mold

2767
04:34:13,240 --> 04:34:24,040
that we we own forever six of three asks how long is it going to be available i don't know it depends

2768
04:34:24,120 --> 04:34:28,920
on how it sells and it depends on how many we bought and i don't know either of those things

2769
04:34:28,920 --> 04:34:34,600
right now if you want one buy it though like i we always go through this when stuff comes in

2770
04:34:34,600 --> 04:34:39,160
on LTT Store it it's like people forget sometimes that we are still a relatively small company in

2771
04:34:39,160 --> 04:34:43,640
the grand scheme of things especially when you consider how much stuff we do like how many

2772
04:34:43,640 --> 04:34:50,680
skews we have um like we will we'll bring in a shirt that it turns out we got wrong and we're

2773
04:34:50,680 --> 04:34:56,200
moving like one unit every three days so then we'll we'll put it on sale and during a big promo

2774
04:34:56,200 --> 04:35:00,200
and we'll sell through them all and we'll go oh thank god they're gone and then we'll have people

2775
04:35:00,200 --> 04:35:04,920
crawling out of the woodwork going oh i was i i wanted to buy one of those i was saving up for

2776
04:35:04,920 --> 04:35:12,520
that i'm sorry i can't i can't do an entire like 4 000 unit order so that you can have one

2777
04:35:13,400 --> 04:35:18,840
when you like you missed it i because they'll it'll take me like four years to sell through them

2778
04:35:19,560 --> 04:35:23,640
like i can't do that sorry

2779
04:35:26,280 --> 04:35:31,560
hi lld one for Linus how do you another one for me do we have any for luke i feel like i've done

2780
04:35:31,560 --> 04:35:38,200
all of them nope none i don't know i didn't scroll through it i got one for luke yeah let's do one

2781
04:35:38,200 --> 04:35:45,720
for luke sure hi lld actually this one's for Linus no hi from san diego if the open ai bubble

2782
04:35:45,720 --> 04:35:52,440
crash were to be controlled implosion where would they actually split up is the name brand

2783
04:35:52,440 --> 04:35:58,280
all that's left other models are better and i i it's cut off a bit probably profitable and profitable

2784
04:35:59,720 --> 04:36:05,960
other models are better at profitable is it name land the name brand of open ai is worth a lot

2785
04:36:05,960 --> 04:36:10,680
i think so too chat gbt brand of chat gbt somebody said in Floatplane that you can't really like

2786
04:36:10,680 --> 04:36:18,040
say chat anymore because people are calling chat chat gbt like i'm gonna i'm gonna chat it crazy

2787
04:36:18,040 --> 04:36:23,000
yeah and it's chat shot up i didn't know that we're that part of culture now we've verbed it like

2788
04:36:23,000 --> 04:36:29,800
googling yeah i'm gonna and it's chat that's the stupidest thing ever is that true stupid hey chat

2789
04:36:29,800 --> 04:36:36,600
is that true like actually though i i don't know somebody said that randomly yeah it's called chat

2790
04:36:36,600 --> 04:36:48,360
no wow jippity i prefer jippity that's uh yeah it's a youtube creator thing uh a a friend a queen's

2791
04:36:48,360 --> 04:36:55,080
friend whatever you want to call it um came up with consulting the sands and i like that a lot

2792
04:36:55,080 --> 04:37:00,040
that's always been my favorite one i will consult the sands i say talking to my parrot

2793
04:37:00,200 --> 04:37:02,680
according to chat gbt

2794
04:37:04,920 --> 04:37:10,520
users have started calling chat gbt simply chat because it's short and rolls off the tongue

2795
04:37:11,640 --> 04:37:14,760
yeah that's rough i like consulting the sands it's far from short

2796
04:37:16,120 --> 04:37:22,840
but i like that it doesn't it keeps the idea of the fact that you're just asking

2797
04:37:22,840 --> 04:37:30,840
a computer chip like right at the core of it and i love that like it's it's actually it's it's

2798
04:37:30,840 --> 04:37:37,240
by far my favorite one i did not come up with it but uh that's my favorite one i will consult the

2799
04:37:37,240 --> 04:37:43,000
sands it also sounds like epic yeah when it's like the opposite of that and then can you like set

2800
04:37:43,000 --> 04:37:45,960
the font and then you could consult the comic sands

2801
04:37:51,640 --> 04:38:00,760
yep you're fired tonight we're gonna wear this bell okay few left few left few left let's see

2802
04:38:03,320 --> 04:38:07,800
howdy boys there's a quick one for Linus how much longer do you have to deal with those braces

2803
04:38:08,520 --> 04:38:09,160
oh

2804
04:38:12,120 --> 04:38:19,720
um are they still yellow sometimes when i eat curry my god what i like curry yeah well i might

2805
04:38:19,720 --> 04:38:24,760
have curry tonight just to spite you hold off a little bit brother no i'm not that bad right now

2806
04:38:24,760 --> 04:38:25,160
did you guys

2807
04:38:28,360 --> 04:38:33,400
they're yellow bro get a different color get something that won't stain it's actually crazy

2808
04:38:34,120 --> 04:38:36,920
purple i'm supposed to be the one that doesn't care about my appearance

2809
04:38:38,280 --> 04:38:46,360
i mean look i damn he can't go you can't go and shave that but on a different shirt Linus

2810
04:38:46,360 --> 04:38:52,040
but just go change your teeth color things i was thinking about maybe on the last one the fact that

2811
04:38:52,040 --> 04:38:57,080
we don't change them in even thumbnails is crazy to me i'll get like i'll get like green and pink

2812
04:38:57,080 --> 04:39:02,120
ones i'll go lambo for the last one i in fact i was going to do it on not the last one but the

2813
04:39:02,120 --> 04:39:06,760
previous elastic change and then the reason i didn't is that right now i'm using what they

2814
04:39:06,760 --> 04:39:12,520
call a power chain so instead of having just individual elastics on each tooth it's just

2815
04:39:12,520 --> 04:39:17,960
one big chain all the way across the all the way across the top and a lot of the bottom right now

2816
04:39:17,960 --> 04:39:26,280
so what i had wanted to do was like green on my canines and then pink everywhere else but

2817
04:39:27,240 --> 04:39:29,240
was not meant to be unfortunately

2818
04:39:31,240 --> 04:39:36,040
i don't know man i just don't they still bother me a lot in terms of the pain slicing up the

2819
04:39:36,040 --> 04:39:40,680
inside of my lips and all that but they don't really bother me in terms of like the jaw ache or

2820
04:39:40,680 --> 04:39:47,400
the um like the look or the talking you know it's funny the mics on the tonight show i felt like

2821
04:39:47,400 --> 04:39:51,720
picked it up a lot worse or i was just nervous or something but i don't notice it as much in our

2822
04:39:51,720 --> 04:39:56,200
regular videos as i did when i was watching that i feel like i don't know if this impacts it

2823
04:39:56,200 --> 04:40:01,320
i feel like you were talking a lot that day because i started noticing it happening more as

2824
04:40:01,320 --> 04:40:06,600
the day progressed it happens more when my lips are really sore and really cut up oh dude i got

2825
04:40:06,600 --> 04:40:12,040
the most i'm still dealing with chap lips from that trip so like oh i'm talking about on the inside

2826
04:40:14,360 --> 04:40:18,760
and so it sometimes it'll get like a really deep cut and then it'll catch on the bottom of the

2827
04:40:18,760 --> 04:40:23,640
thing every time my lip slides up oh man which happens which happens way more in speech than

2828
04:40:23,640 --> 04:40:28,280
you realize yeah which i know because now i'm acutely aware of it every single time it happens

2829
04:40:28,280 --> 04:40:35,960
right yeah uh yes i know about i know about the wax but i'm just add as and it's hard to remember

2830
04:40:35,960 --> 04:40:39,720
to carry it with me and put it back on and take it off before i eat or just eat it and then put

2831
04:40:39,720 --> 04:40:44,600
it back on after i eat it's just a whole thing man um anyway it's just this one

2832
04:40:47,080 --> 04:40:52,520
yeah they actually remounted this bracket on the lower left canine last time i was in uh moving

2833
04:40:52,520 --> 04:40:57,080
it over theoretically that's supposed to be one of the benefits of these ceramic braces that this

2834
04:40:57,080 --> 04:41:02,600
particular system is that you don't have to remount brackets but i did so they remounted this one

2835
04:41:02,600 --> 04:41:08,360
and they're trying to turn this one and so most of it has made really good progress and like i don't

2836
04:41:08,360 --> 04:41:16,600
know i think uh looks pretty straight now right it's pretty lined up well there's that one that's

2837
04:41:16,600 --> 04:41:23,800
twisted like 15 degrees off that i might be waiting waiting waiting waiting for us to turn

2838
04:41:23,800 --> 04:41:28,440
because they can't turn it too fast would you ever take the top row off but leave the bottom

2839
04:41:29,080 --> 04:41:37,320
i would my ortho won't okay so it's not a thing apparently weird but this is the same ortho that

2840
04:41:37,320 --> 04:41:43,880
wouldn't even work on them until i got my wisdom teeth out which other orthos did not say the same

2841
04:41:43,880 --> 04:41:48,440
thing so it's not like that's just standard practice but they were rated really well and

2842
04:41:48,440 --> 04:41:53,000
unlike the other one that i got a quote from they didn't want to pull any of my non-wisdom teeth

2843
04:41:53,000 --> 04:41:56,920
one of the other ones wanted to pull a tooth from the bottom because of this crowding issue

2844
04:41:56,920 --> 04:42:02,600
and i just have me have a middle tooth and i was like buddy we're not doing that no yeah you know

2845
04:42:02,600 --> 04:42:08,440
what's funny though is i was like upset about him saying that i should do that but i actually it took

2846
04:42:08,440 --> 04:42:16,600
me years and my wife pointing out to me that she has one tooth out and that her her smile is offset

2847
04:42:17,160 --> 04:42:21,000
oh i don't actually necessarily care about that have you ever noticed no yeah and i don't care

2848
04:42:21,000 --> 04:42:24,280
about that part that wasn't my point i just if you don't have to pull my teeth out i'm gonna

2849
04:42:24,280 --> 04:42:32,920
rather not yeah that was my only yeah yeah tom cruise tom cruise has a crooked smile

2850
04:42:32,920 --> 04:42:38,600
he's got a center top tooth shut up you will never not be able to notice it

2851
04:42:39,160 --> 04:42:43,320
tom cruise middle tooth i think i could not notice it because i know about my wife's

2852
04:42:43,320 --> 04:42:50,600
one and i still don't notice it he totally done oh my god he does what i'm sorry for anybody who

2853
04:42:50,600 --> 04:42:57,320
didn't know this no i'm just never gonna care oh that's fun trivia oh my god it's it's like a

2854
04:42:57,320 --> 04:43:07,400
right dead center that's crazy i'm not gonna lie to me it just looks like his mouth is turned to

2855
04:43:07,400 --> 04:43:16,280
the side all the time because like i think it looks like he has two primary teeth in the front

2856
04:43:16,280 --> 04:43:17,720
they're just shifted to the side

2857
04:43:20,520 --> 04:43:28,440
yeah pretty much okay that hurts to see yeah wow i wow i just don't care

2858
04:43:30,280 --> 04:43:39,480
i don't yeah i don't know more more merch messages that are now check out messages

2859
04:43:41,080 --> 04:43:48,520
you'll get there eventually still getting used to it i'm gonna screw it up at some point because all over my screen it says

2860
04:43:49,320 --> 04:43:56,840
merch messages yeah so we'll get that fixed hi lod one for alinas how do you keep from

2861
04:43:56,840 --> 04:44:02,840
becoming overwhelmed by challenges and burden of running a company any tips tricks or thoughts to share

2862
04:44:02,840 --> 04:44:16,600
uh god i wish i had to me that's always something man it's always something like i

2863
04:44:16,600 --> 04:44:21,240
i forget who was in my office but i was just like they were giving me some kind of bad news and i was

2864
04:44:21,240 --> 04:44:30,680
just like can i just you know life is already hard mode right for everyone for everyone i'm not

2865
04:44:30,680 --> 04:44:35,560
special right like my life is not special hard if anything i've been i've been very blessed very

2866
04:44:35,560 --> 04:44:44,840
lucky very privileged in a lot of ways um but life in general it's pve pvp pv all the things

2867
04:44:45,880 --> 04:44:52,680
it's it's it's it's tough life is life is hard and i just i kind of like like i wasn't i wasn't

2868
04:44:52,680 --> 04:44:58,360
yelling at them but i was like i was kind of doing the thing where i like talk very animatedly like

2869
04:44:58,360 --> 04:45:04,600
i'm hosting but in a one-on-one conversation that's like just kind of almost like shrek style like

2870
04:45:04,600 --> 04:45:11,320
could just could just nothing go wrong for five minutes you know can we just have can we just

2871
04:45:11,320 --> 04:45:19,560
have everything operate normally and you know i just i just come into the office and every and

2872
04:45:19,560 --> 04:45:28,200
like there's no tech company you know sending us a broken sample or no you know someone dropped a

2873
04:45:28,200 --> 04:45:33,080
camera or you know like whatever for just could we just have a smooth operation

2874
04:45:35,240 --> 04:45:43,800
you know what i think it might have been it might have been when the the RAM apocalypse started happening because it was right on the heels of us making the msr ppc

2875
04:45:45,000 --> 04:45:51,720
and i was i was just like for for for for five minutes could the industry just just f*** off

2876
04:45:51,720 --> 04:45:58,840
and let me talk about how cool the stuff they make is can we just chill you know

2877
04:46:01,240 --> 04:46:10,200
and the answer is no and i think the only way that i managed to keep from being overwhelmed

2878
04:46:10,920 --> 04:46:18,600
is remembering why we do it and it's for it's for magic moments like you know seeing

2879
04:46:18,600 --> 04:46:23,960
longtime employees who i've known since they were they were they were young and childless bring

2880
04:46:23,960 --> 04:46:29,960
their their kids and you know sitting on santa's lap at the christmas party or you know whether it's

2881
04:46:30,760 --> 04:46:36,520
whether it's someone you know sending me a little message after hours or or having a quick chat with

2882
04:46:36,520 --> 04:46:42,680
me in the parking lot telling me like oh i you know i got a new car you know that kind of thing or

2883
04:46:42,760 --> 04:46:49,080
i bought a house or you know whatever it is we had we've had some people

2884
04:46:50,520 --> 04:46:54,920
be injured over the last little while like not at work but you know

2885
04:46:57,160 --> 04:47:02,360
hey i you know use the benefits program in this way or that way and and that really helped you

2886
04:47:02,360 --> 04:47:08,280
know you know why do we why do we do it and the answer always has to be people because if it's not

2887
04:47:08,840 --> 04:47:13,320
then you're not going to be able to keep it up and it's been really nice for physio i've i've

2888
04:47:13,320 --> 04:47:19,880
found a physio like my guess is three years ago at this point who like i actually really

2889
04:47:19,880 --> 04:47:25,480
jive with and every time i've gone to him i've needed to see him once for the thing that is

2890
04:47:25,480 --> 04:47:29,080
like a problem and he'll give me like a piece of paper with all the instructions and then

2891
04:47:29,080 --> 04:47:34,040
i actually do it i never have to see him again until a year later well until the next thing

2892
04:47:34,040 --> 04:47:39,480
comes up but like it's it's not the same thing oh i see what you mean yeah and he's freaking

2893
04:47:39,480 --> 04:47:44,440
awesome and i've never had to pay for it which has been sick or like you know you pay the little

2894
04:47:44,440 --> 04:47:50,280
thing but yeah yeah but it's like a token almost yeah like someone at one of the at one of the

2895
04:47:50,280 --> 04:47:56,360
pool parties at my place in the summer um someone was talking about their adult uh braces journey

2896
04:47:56,360 --> 04:48:00,760
and we don't do full coverage for braces but we do cover a very significant amount of it

2897
04:48:00,840 --> 04:48:05,400
and it was like yeah this was like why i was able to do it and i'm like that's cool

2898
04:48:06,120 --> 04:48:12,920
you know yeah i mean it's not cool it's adult braces but but but but it's something the end

2899
04:48:12,920 --> 04:48:22,840
result i'm allowed to say they're not cool i have them hi dll how would you guys tackle

2900
04:48:22,840 --> 04:48:28,920
cooling a pc with outside air in an insulated workshop using the positive pressure created as

2901
04:48:28,920 --> 04:48:33,640
the main form of ventilation absolutely love the products have to save

2902
04:48:35,960 --> 04:48:40,360
oh they bought a gift card i was gonna say they bought a save up for something else yeah um

2903
04:48:40,360 --> 04:48:45,960
can we fix that truncation thing is or is that user error where people are like it definitely

2904
04:48:45,960 --> 04:48:51,160
tells you how many characters you have left i have done that when i've replied occasionally uh

2905
04:48:51,160 --> 04:48:55,800
yeah but can you type past the amount yeah maybe we could maybe we could stop them

2906
04:48:56,520 --> 04:49:03,800
or something just an idea um yeah it's happened quite twice tonight it doesn't happen very often

2907
04:49:03,800 --> 04:49:11,000
at all but cooling a pc with outside air yeah it does stop using the positive pressure created

2908
04:49:11,000 --> 04:49:16,840
maybe it's a mobile thing as the main form of ventilation so it sounds like you want to put

2909
04:49:16,840 --> 04:49:26,680
your pc's intake on the like the air intake for your workshop

2910
04:49:30,200 --> 04:49:35,400
sorry i'm trying to wrap my brain around this using the positive pressure created

2911
04:49:35,400 --> 04:49:43,720
as the main form of ventilation so it sounds like you just need like a room ventilation fan

2912
04:49:44,360 --> 04:49:54,440
and then you just need to like put a duct on the back of your pc and then on the front of your pc

2913
04:49:55,800 --> 04:49:59,720
and then put the vent fan maybe you'd have to have two maybe you'd have to have like an assist

2914
04:49:59,720 --> 04:50:03,240
motor so you'd have one like right at the vent and it blows into the pc and then one on the

2915
04:50:03,240 --> 04:50:07,480
other side of the pc or something honestly this sounds like more work than it's probably worth

2916
04:50:08,440 --> 04:50:15,400
is what i am thinking right now and luke doesn't seem to care he's doing something else entirely

2917
04:50:15,960 --> 04:50:22,040
yeah he's on reddit yeah classic luke well i'm looking into a link that was linked they were

2918
04:50:22,040 --> 04:50:25,240
trying to tag you in full playing chat so i was checking to see if you should see it and it's

2919
04:50:25,240 --> 04:50:30,600
had somebody made somebody as far as i can tell vibe coded the the app that you asked for oh really

2920
04:50:30,600 --> 04:50:33,400
yeah oh that's hilarious so i was i was checking it out okay

2921
04:50:35,080 --> 04:50:44,120
how's fast yeah hey lld as a fellow workaholic how do you balance work without ignoring your

2922
04:50:44,120 --> 04:50:47,160
significant other start a company with her

2923
04:50:49,240 --> 04:50:56,200
not financial advice actually not advice we made it work but it was not always easy lots of tears

2924
04:51:00,920 --> 04:51:02,840
have a very understanding partner

2925
04:51:05,240 --> 04:51:10,680
no all none of this is advice okay i also have a technique

2926
04:51:15,560 --> 04:51:20,040
break up and then it won't be a problem at all

2927
04:51:22,360 --> 04:51:24,040
three not answers

2928
04:51:31,160 --> 04:51:41,480
oh my god that was horrible oh man that was like what's that that was just everything got

2929
04:51:41,480 --> 04:51:50,440
progressively worse the whole time yeah i shouldn't have talked isn't that like a storytelling

2930
04:51:50,760 --> 04:51:54,280
technique like escalation something like that

2931
04:52:00,360 --> 04:52:05,080
i don't know yeah i can't find it all right hit me hit me with a with a product message maybe

2932
04:52:05,080 --> 04:52:13,320
don't ask us about work stuff we don't know we're all weird um last one i have they're not gonna

2933
04:52:13,320 --> 04:52:19,400
stop i know uh the last one i've got i am in the process of building my ultimate pc

2934
04:52:19,960 --> 04:52:26,680
singularity computer's case hell yeah double loop 50 90 holy hand picked components only

2935
04:52:26,680 --> 04:52:36,760
la creme de la creme should i go for the 9800 3xd or rather 9950 3xd um okay normally i wouldn't

2936
04:52:36,760 --> 04:52:44,680
do this 3d normally i wouldn't do this but it seems to me that this looks like it's going

2937
04:52:44,680 --> 04:52:50,680
to be a real product i don't actually have any inside knowledge but there is there was rumored

2938
04:52:50,680 --> 04:53:03,880
to be a 9950 x3d 2 and the difference between this and the uh the 9950 x3d um is that both

2939
04:53:04,680 --> 04:53:12,840
of the ccds will have 3d vcash um which means that you will never have to worry about the

2940
04:53:12,840 --> 04:53:18,840
issue that people run into on the current flagship the current 16 core flagship where

2941
04:53:18,840 --> 04:53:26,360
occasionally a gaming thread will end up on the wrong die and you can um you can experience

2942
04:53:26,360 --> 04:53:32,840
slightly reduced performance in those cases which is which is why the 9850 x3d or previously the

2943
04:53:32,840 --> 04:53:41,400
9800 x3d were like the the gaming flagship but this new one looks like it should be zero compromise

2944
04:53:44,440 --> 04:53:48,360
so make of that what you will but i have no confirmation when it will arrive

2945
04:53:49,160 --> 04:53:57,960
if it didn't arrive if this is for gaming then i would probably go 9850 x3d it's the fastest

2946
04:53:57,960 --> 04:54:04,440
gaming CPU but because you've gone 5090 i assume you're going to get a high resolution monitor

2947
04:54:04,440 --> 04:54:10,760
which means you are f***ing never going to notice that your CPU is slightly faster

2948
04:54:12,920 --> 04:54:21,080
and on that note we'll see you again next week same bedtime same bed show bye

2949
04:54:27,960 --> 04:54:41,080
so