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Okay, why does this keep going? Get out of the way, buddy.

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Uh, sure. Perfect.

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It'll settle. It'll settle, right? Yeah. All right.

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How you doing? How you doing, chat?

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I may have been late. However, let the record show.

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That when I did arrive on set, they weren't ready.

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Luke's audio was messed up. Got him.

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That wasn't my fault.

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But that wasn't a denial.

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Uh, yeah, you're right. But that has literally nothing to do with the competition,

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so that's fine. Oh, man, you do sound really weird.

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Do I? Yeah, I can't tell what it is.

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What mic or did you end up using?

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I'm running, uh, studio voice on NVIDIA broadcast.

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It sounds like you're saying like, I bet it did.

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Like his, his fans are running at 100%. If you want to disable it and hear what you actually sound like, Luke.

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Oh, sure. When I do that, though, the fans will tone down.

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It will just take a bit. So when I first turn it off, you'll hear the fans.

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But I do that, though. But I do that.

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Oh, wow. Okay, talk again then.

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Testing, testing. But you got to wait for the fans to calm down.

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Oh, are you on your laptops like webcam mic?

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No. Why is there so much echo?

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Uh, well, there's no echo removal running right now.

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That's probably why. Yeah, but that it, it sounds like a webcam mic.

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Like it sounds like, uh, like a tiny.

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It is currently a webcam mic. Apparently Dan doesn't like the AirPods.

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So I don't know. Oh, well, no, we were having an issue before.

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You could try the AirPods if you want. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not coming in here trying to change everything.

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I don't want to change anything. I think you are. No, no, no.

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I think you're a big meanie. No, no, no, no.

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I don't want to change anything. Big meanie. I don't want to change anything.

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Uh, here's the.

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The AirPods. We'll see how that goes.

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Wow. It's so much worse.

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You know what? We can't even hear you now. Yeah, I bet you, um, I bet your noise cancellation mics are,

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uh, jammed with cred. Cause my active noise cancellation wasn't working very well.

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And I followed Apple's instructions sort of, I followed part of Apple's instructions for how to like de-guncify them.

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And they then got way better.

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So I think, I think it's probably your goo.

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When I, when I call people with these, they sound fine.

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So I don't really know. Like I take calls with these all the time.

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So I don't know what's going on. Yeah. All right.

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You should definitely turn the NVIDIA stuff back on. Yes, please. Well, what if I just do.

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What this? How does this sound? Yeah, that sounds like you have noise suppression enabled.

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I got that little bit. Is that the same or equal to the studio voice thing?

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Uh, I would say the background removal is, is as good.

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And that's okay. Is, is better this way.

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So yeah, you sound okay.

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You sound acceptable. Yeah.

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Okay. All right. It cancels your laugh though.

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Which makes sense. That does kind of make sense actually.

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I am not bullying. What are you people even talking about?

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He's bullying. He's definitely bullying. If I was bullying, if I was bullying Luke,

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you'd know cause he'd be crying.

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Oh, I don't know about that. Oh, how long does that delay?

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Yikes. Yeah, I guess.

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I am pretty far away. Yeah.

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That's a, that's definitely a yikes.

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It did take me like a day and a half to get here.

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His delay is, it's my round trip.

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There is it.

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Yeah, there, John Paul Hutch is right. You look tired, dude.

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I am tired. You look tired.

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I find, I find the time zone shifting from West coast to East

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coast be really weird. I find it easier to go to like Asia or Europe or something.

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I'm doing the NVIDIA broadcast eye thing and it's so weird.

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I'm doing the NVIDIA broadcast eye thing and it's so weird.

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Oh, I don't, I don't like that.

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Are you making eyes at me? Cause uh,

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it looks so weird, dude.

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I don't know. Stop it.

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What animation style does this remind me of?

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Like Elvin the chipmunks?

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It's so like slightly off-putting.

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Oh man. I know I am tired.

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Cause like in, in, in our time zone, I woke up at what?

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Like, um, like four in the morning today.

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So yeah, I don't know. Okay.

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So he was too quiet. Now he's too,

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I'll split the difference with 92%.

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That's probably better. Oh my goodness.

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It's like, it's like glittering your eyes around yet.

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Can you make, can you make them bigger?

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It's so weird to watch. Especially when I know that my eyes aren't moving.

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Oh my goodness. That's so weird.

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That's super creepy, dude.

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That's super creepy.

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Oh, someone says merge message is not working. Oh, I didn't push the button because of all the problems.

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There we go.

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I'll turn it off. Okay. Gdub says we pay for this abuse.

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No man, you should totally keep it on. You should keep it on and wait and see if,

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wait, did that, did you just turn off some color correction as well?

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No. It's very yellow. It changed.

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I could have sworn it changed from like blue to yellow a second ago.

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Put the eye thing back on. I'm going to turn the eye contact back on and we'll see what happens.

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You have dead eyes. Yucky. 100% dead eyes.

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Did that change the color correction? No. No, I must have imagined it.

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Oh, no, blue says it did change, but probably is an auto correction.

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Instantly look drunk.

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Oh man. I feel like you are staring into my soul.

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Maybe I am, huh? It is so yucky.

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You don't know, dude.

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What is white? What if I do this? That looks white.

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Oh, wow. That's horrible. That's an actual video effect.

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They actually did that. Why is the audio crackling now?

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He's probably doing too much on his computer. That makes sense.

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That is very likely. Okay.

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No, that's a fur. I'm fine. I don't have anything to drink.

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Just a couple of glasses of dinner with my wine.

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Says clapped. K-I-K-24 cord.

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Yeah, sorry. I turned on virtual key light. I hadn't scrolled down far enough to see that it says that it takes like tons of GPU power.

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All right, should we do this thing? This is a bit of an older laptop at this point. Yeah, I mean, might as well give it a go.

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Yeah, do you actually want me to leave the eye contact thing on?

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I don't know. It might be a little funny. People hate it.

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Oh, yeah, I hate it. People hate it. I hate it too, but it's like, yeah, it's so weird.

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It reminds me of some of the like kind of like AI looking Mr. B stumbinails, you know?

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Like it just doesn't seem quite right. I wish you could make them larger.

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Yeah, we could pull it. Okay. It's up to you, Floatplane chat.

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We're going to pull it.

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Just through typing, I think they already voted no.

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No, no, no. Let them vote. Let them vote.

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Let them vote. Let them vote.

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Did you make a poll? Do you want me to? I don't know how to pull.

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Okay. Nice.

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Oh, wait. That's right. It's on the pages.

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I was going to say it's so simple. He just like refuses to remember.

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Well, it's because I don't have the... It's because I don't have the...

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Just like refuses to remember. Yeah.

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It's because I don't have the... Just like refuses to remember.

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Yeah. Just like refuses to remember.

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I don't know why that's coming through automatically because

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I don't know why that's coming through automatically. It's going through to see anyway, I don't normally have going through to see.

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Up here. Oh, Luke's in the way.

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Up here. Oh, Luke's in the way. Oh, my God.

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Are you doing this on purpose? No, actually. I don't know why this is happening.

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It's coming through on Luke. And obviously, Luke can't hear us, but I don't know why.

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Maybe because it's on B. Let's try that.

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Rush B. Wait for that to die down.

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We can't hear you, Luke. I know. I'm telling him not you.

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I don't know if he can even hear us.

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I don't know why that's coming through now. This doesn't make any sense.

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Luke, what did you do?

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I blame Luke. I also blame Luke.

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Okay, let's see what happens.

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I'm going to turn Luke back on. I'm going to turn.

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Oh, I'm upset now.

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Now I'm upset. Now I'm angry.

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What the hell did you do?

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Did Luke change something? Did you change anything, Luke?

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No. I don't believe in that shifty-eyed motherfucker.

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Oh, oh, oh, oh.

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You can't trust someone if I was like that. It's my fault.

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Because I opened a Floatplane and it wasn't muted.

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That very rarely happens. Okay.

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I think. So, Luke, we can hear you now again, I believe.

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Okay. There we go.

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It's funny because it started happening right when I screen-shared,

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so I actually thought it was me. Yeah, we simultaneously opened a Floatplane.

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Nice. Which is why. Right, because you were trying to create this poll.

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Exactly. I think that I can't show it to anybody because Luke is in the way.

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What? People are voting yes? Wow.

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You should have a call button on your streamer. Of course they're voting yes.

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Because the YouTube audience won't be in on it.

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They think that's funny.

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So you think I just went to Florida and just took like tons of drugs.

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They have drugs in Florida. I'm not sure they do.

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That's plausible. There's so much.

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There's so much. There's so much. Honestly, it does.

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They have a warm water port.

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All right. Well, it seems to be settled.

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Okay. To keep sure of anything.

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Sure. Why not?

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Sure. Why not?

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Dan, it's doing it again. Sure.

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Why not? No, he's not going to believe that.

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Yeah. Sorry about that.

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Okay. All right. Are we doing this thing?

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Oh my God. You look so weird. Sure.

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Oh. Oh, yeah. I mean, it can't get any worse.

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Yeah. I mean, I think it's getting worse.

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Oh, man. Okay.

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Okay.

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All right.

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What is happening with his face?

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Oh, man. Okay. Are we doing this thing?

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Let's do this thing.

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Don't tell me his audio is broken.

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What? You can't hear me? Okay.

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Can you not hear him?

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Can you hear me or?

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Hello? No, I can hear him now. What?

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Okay. I can't hear Dan if Dan's talking.

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Chat says Dan's mic is off.

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Oh God. Now I can hear myself on delay.

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I hosted the WAN Show for years like that with the, with myself on delay.

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So someone tried to use a speech jammer on me a little while back and I was like completely

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unaffected by it. They were like, what? And I was like, dude, you have no idea.

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Yeah. It's trained in the dark arts of not being speech shamed.

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Because Luke couldn't monitor because he literally couldn't talk with it on.

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And I was like, oh, one of us has to monitor.

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So I guess it's me. So for years of hosting WAN Show, I had like a fraction of a second delay on my own speech.

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It was wild. Which is like, if you don't understand how hard that is, try it.

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It's actually ridiculous.

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Okay. There we are. Should be good.

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Like to the point where if I remember correctly, didn't the US military like derive a tool

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for them to speech jam people remotely, which is just like a targeted speaker.

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Oh, really? That sends the, the own person's voice back to them with a slight delay.

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That's hilarious. I remember seeing something about that at one point.

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Yes. We did says Kisul that cat.

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Okay. Ready when you guys are. All right.

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Let's do this thing. I am resuming the selected.

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What is up, everybody?

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Welcome to the WAN Show. We've got a great show lined up for you guys today.

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We're going to be talking about, well, let's see. Ryzen AI max the three 95 Strix alo.

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The point is these processors are freaking wild and I am super excited about them.

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We're also going to be talking about HP thinking, well, maybe if we just left you on the line

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and didn't let you talk to tech support, maybe you'd just figure it out on your own.

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That's their policy now. Yes.

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And we'll get into it. What else we got this week, Mr. Luke?

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So we're talking about how you just like all the other cards can't get the RTX 5070 TI

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and mod makers rejoice valve releases the full Team Fortress 2 source code in a move

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that I didn't see coming.

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How can you see anything coming? You know what?

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It doesn't matter.

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The show is brought to you today by Squarespace.

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All right. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic today, which was reported by Ars Technica

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and basically amounts to HP thinking, hmm, maybe it would be better if you just figured

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HP has added and since removed a 15 minute mandatory wait time to their phone support

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in order to, and this is a quote, in order to influence customers to increase their adoption

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of digital self-solve.

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Digital self-solve is the most core thing in the world.

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I think I have ever heard. They recommend visiting support.hp.com to check out other support options or find helpful

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articles and assistance to get a guided help using, sorry, what an assist, whatever, virtual

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agent.hpcloud.hp.com. HP has since canceled the mandatory wait times, claiming that it was originally, and this

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is another quote, intended to provide more digital options with the goal of reducing

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time to resolve inquiries.

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And also said that many of our customers were not aware of the digital support options

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that we provide.

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There has to be a better way to raise awareness than just like waste everyone's time.

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I think it's a good idea. Dude, 15 minutes?

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That's brutal. For every single support call.

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It's like, yeah, I can't imagine a lot of people going, holy crap, I've been on hold

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for 13 and a half minutes.

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Maybe I'll just, you know, give it a try.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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Holy crap, I've been on hold for 13 and a half minutes.

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Maybe I'll just, you know, Google this or, but the problem is that the kind of people

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that are on the phone waiting on hold for HP support are not necessarily the kind of

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people that can go resolve it themselves. And so basically you're just pushing them into paid services in all likelihood.

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I also do wonder like what their average wait time was before they did this.

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Like, did this actually really change anything? When you did Secret Shopper, do you know how long you had to wait for them to answer?

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We've actually had pretty okay support experiences with HP.

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They have never been the best, but I don't think they've ever been the worst in the

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now three times that we've done Secret Shopper.

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They're always kind of good for a tier one, you know?

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Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of in the middle.

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And here's my bigger issue, I think, with this is on the one hand, like, yeah,

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obviously this is horrible that HP is out here saying that they're going to make everybody

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wait 15 minutes in order for them to push more people to, sorry, influence customers to

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increase their adoption of digital self-solve.

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But you got to wonder, since this is obviously a function then that exists in these phone

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tree systems to introduce a mandatory wait, you got to wonder how many of the places that

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you call already have this implemented and just don't tell anybody.

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Yeah, like this probably isn't an original idea.

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Oh, I sincerely doubt that they're the first ones to think of this.

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And I guess I'm just trying to wrap my brain.

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I mean, obviously, we sometimes at LTT Store don't have the fastest response times.

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That is a fact.

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Since the holiday season pretty much, we've had a notice on the site that's like, hey,

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things are going to be a little delayed, whether it was due to the holiday rush, due to the

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influx of orders for the commuter backpack right at the end of the year.

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And then more recently, because the poor support team has been absolutely buried under inquiries

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about the tariffs and then not tariffs and then tariffs and then not tariffs and just

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the whole shenanigans that's been going on. That's been one thing or another.

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So I fully recognize that sometimes our support response times are suboptimal.

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But to imagine, to put myself in a headspace where I'm going, hmm, you know what is the

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solution to literally any problem is to increase those response times on purpose.

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You understand that a customer who contacts you for help is not like an undue burden.

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Like that's your job. That's like the whole job.

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You sell them the product and then when they have a problem with it, you deal with it.

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That's the deal.

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Yeah, this does seem to feel like a continuation of like, you know, on certain websites when

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you try to find some way to contact support and it's like very, very difficult and they

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really, really just try to force you into either support forums or like FAQ style documentation

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or whatever else. This feels like a continuation of that where it's like they just don't want to help you

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at all. And maybe they're trying to train people to not actually call in ever and instead use

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other resources. Oh shoot.

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Luke's audio is breaking down.

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Do you have any idea why and are you able to fix it?

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Yeah, I might just need to lower settings a bit.

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Cool. Okay. Hopefully you heard that, Luke.

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How is it now? Is it any better now? Nope.

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It's really bad. We really did spend quite a bit of time before the show getting his stuff dialed in.

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Unfortunately, it is breaking. I didn't change anything.

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I believe you, Luke. I believe you.

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But I'm going to have to ask you to stick with me for these basic troubleshooting steps

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anyway. Can you please try turning...

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15 minutes. Yeah, wait 15 minutes first.

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Okay. I don't have too much else to say about this HP thing other than that if that's the way

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that you feel about your customers, don't be surprised when your customers start feeling

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that way about you. Just the level of hostility that large companies have towards their customers is just baffling

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to me. And I understand that part of the mandate as you scale up a company is to make elements

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of your business scale more efficiently.

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But there are certain things that just don't scale efficiently.

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And dealing with one-to-one customer support issues is just one of them.

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When your revenue is double, you are going to spend double as much time talking to your

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customers and helping them fix stuff. More even, actually.

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Yeah, that's probably the case as you go more and more mainstream and more broadly outside

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of the niche of enthusiast customers who first engaged with you.

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Yeah, you're probably right. It probably does go up.

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Yes, sir, says LTT Store has no phone support, though.

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Isn't that just as bad or worse? I think you could make an argument that having no phone support at all is bad.

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My response to that, though, is that all of our support is here onshore and for us to

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be able to afford to do phone support, which takes way longer per ticket, like multiple

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times longer per ticket, it would impact the prices on the store.

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And so right now, we've made the decision to keep our margin structure as it is.

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And we do offer chat support now, at least, but it's all text-based, which allows our

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customer service people to work with multiple people at once and to deal with things more

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efficiently. Even chat support is more expensive than just traditional email support.

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That is a step forward. Yep.

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Oh, man, there's also a big difference.

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Actually, that's a really good point from Jay Hirshman in Floatplane Chat.

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No phone support is fine for what LTT sells. Yeah, we don't sell anything that's mission critical.

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Like you don't need us to get your, you know, a fray in your t-shirt or whatever resolved

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this instant, or you're going to have customers breathing down your neck because their systems

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are offline or whatever. Like it's fairly not time-sensitive.

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All right.

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Should we have him reconnect or something then?

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Well, I do a topic. He seems to have issues with NVIDIA Broadcast.

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Oh, I see. OK, well, maybe you should disable some features of NVIDIA Broadcast and see if it goes a little better.

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Disabled the main one. And it didn't seem to make a difference.

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Oh, no. We need to get you a new laptop.

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Maybe. I mentioned to Dan just to bypass me and go directly through the mic instead of through

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NVIDIA Broadcast and see if that's better. OK, cool. I guess we're bringing back the fan noise.

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Let's go. Sure, try it. Yeah, just do it. Just do it. We have to fix it.

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Do it? Yep.

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I don't hear it yet. I'm just going to start talking.

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That's a thing, one, two, three, four. It's terrible. That's a sound.

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No, it's terrible. Oh, boy. All right.

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NVIDIA launched the RTX 5070 Ti and you probably can't get one.

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If you could get it at MSRP, it's actually one of the more compelling cards in the 50

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series lineup yet. However, I'm going to play a little game with you guys called Can I Get a 5070 Ti for

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MSRP? All right. I'm going to stay at United States.

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That's a pretty large market. It should get a pretty reasonable amount of the allocation, a new egg, pretty large retailer.

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OK, well, there's one small problem.

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First of all, this lowest price in 30 days on an ASUS TUF is $1,000.

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That's a lot more than $750.

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Sometimes the custom cards with bigger beefier power delivery or cooling can be a little

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bit on the higher side, but I don't know if years ago I would have ever seen one that

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was $250 more, but hey, whatever, sure.

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Let's go ahead and let's check out this Gigabyte Eagle.

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Hey, that's a much more reasonable price. We got an MSI Ventus.

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That's typically on the lower end and it's on the lower end of the pricing.

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No, excuse me, $80 more than MSRP. Yeah, I have stock, OK.

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Yeah. Oh, hey, look what an MSRP.

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Yep, out of stock. ASUS Prime.

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Yep. Prime plumb out of stock.

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Yeah, I don't know if it was on the record or not, but I did express some of my concerns

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about the long-term reputational damage that NVIDIA might be doing to their long-term reputation

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with this over-promising and under-delivering that's happening on pricing and availability,

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and I won't give too many details about what was or wasn't said to me other than, you know,

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I was told that 5070 Ti would be better.

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And I was like, sure.

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And then it wasn't better at all.

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And there are elements of this that NVIDIA cannot control.

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NVIDIA can't really control if retailers or distributors are selling in bulk to scalpers,

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for instance. They can't control that. NVIDIA can't control if their partners down the chain are increasing prices in order to

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take more margin when the market will clearly bear it.

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They can't really control that to a degree.

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But one thing that does bother me a little bit is that NVIDIA can control how much stock

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they launch with. NVIDIA can control that.

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NVIDIA can make a decision to give their partners longer net terms for the chipsets.

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NVIDIA can make a decision to look at their existing stock, their existing pre-launch

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inventory, and they can delay the launch to allow themselves more time to build up that

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inventory. That is a decision that NVIDIA can make and a decision that NVIDIA clearly decides not

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to make with every launch. And I want to shout out Nintendo here, actually, because based on the frequency and thoroughness

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of the leaks around the switch, too. I am actually starting to believe what Nintendo hinted at months ago, which was that their

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strategy to combat scalpers was that they were going to launch with so much inventory

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that it would literally not be possible for scalpers to absorb all of the inventory and

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then sort of trickle it out at much higher prices.

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Do you remember this conversation, Luke? You can just nod if your mic sucks.

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Yeah, cool. It's a Linus WAN Show today.

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No, no, don't worry. We'll get them back online, everyone.

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But I mean, when was that?

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I think it was sometime like mid to late last year or something like that that was sort

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of rumored or something. I can't remember the exact details, but the point is that I was pretty surprised to see

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that Nintendo didn't launch the switch, too, during the holiday season because the rumors

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were already coming at such a rate that it seemed to indicate that the hardware was pretty

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darn finished. I mean, from everything we've seen, the chip is based on Ampere.

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So Nintendo has probably had finished Silicon for literally years while they work on launch

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titles for this thing. So that led me to believe one of two things.

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Either one, they didn't have their launch titles ready, and you know Nintendo's going

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to bring it for a launch title for the Switch, too.

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You know they're going to bring it. They're going to have one or two absolute mega bangers, and they're going to be ready

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to go with that. So that was thought number one, was they just didn't have it.

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But then I kind of went, well, yeah, but it looked like the hardware was probably ready

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for like Tears of the Kingdom. Like Tears of the Kingdom would have been just such a, it would have put such an exclamation

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point on the Switch to launch, right? So we go, okay, we've got Breath of the Wild that launches with Switch 1, boom, sequel to

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the Switch, boom, sequel to one of the most successful games we've ever launched, Tears

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of the Kingdom. Let's go. Like it seemed like such an obvious one, and then no, Tears of the Kingdom comes for

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the Nintendo Switch. We see no Switch, too. And it's delayed.

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I mean, I think the rumors these days are what, probably sometime in Q2?

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It's kind of the word on the street. Have you heard anything, Luke?

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Yeah, nothing too specific, but I don't suspect it'll be a huge delay after the direct, and

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the direct is around that time, so that probably makes sense. Yeah, so probably sometime around there.

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So if that's the case, it is conceivable that Nintendo is manufacturing Switch 2s, literally

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for, or will be manufacturing Switch 2s for anywhere between weeks and months in the lead

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up to this launch in order to stockpile enough inventory in order to support it.

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And there's a lot of other companies that behave like that.

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I'm holding a product from one of them in my hand. I remember having my eyes kind of opened at one point about, you know, why Tim Cook

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is the CEO of Apple, and what kind of company Apple is.

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A lot of people think of Apple as, what, a technology company, right?

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A hardware company, a software and services company.

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But if you really break it down, what is Apple better at than almost literally any other

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company on the planet? They're a logistics company.

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Man, they kill it.

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Every little screw, every little widget, every little glass element.

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When an iPhone launches, you can buy one.

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You might wait a little bit. But speaking as someone who's often not really on the ball about getting our devices ordered,

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even though, you know, I'm theoretically a tech YouTuber or whatever, like we'll place

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our, sometimes the approvals take a little bit of time, and we'll place our order like

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late in the day or the next day.

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And dude, a new MacBook will come out, and we'll wait like four days or like a week and

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a half or something like that for it to ship. Like they have the logistics nailed down, absolutely nailed down.

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And that's a really hard thing to do, but it's also easier to do if you take some of

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your cash and you use it to facilitate a smooth launch for your customers.

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Why do Apple's customers love them? Because when you place a freaking order, I just placed an order recently for the iSwitch

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to Apple for a month thing for my, wait, has that video come out yet?

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Oh, well, that video is not out yet, but I just placed an order on apple.com.

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And I bought, well, I'm not going to tell you guys what I bought, but I bought some computers,

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okay? Anyway, the point is I bought some, I bought some Macs to switch to, and I get a text message.

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I get a shipping notification. It's smooth.

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And NVIDIA is going to have to figure out at some point that your customer expectation

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for you needs to be that when you want the product, you get the product at the price

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that you say it's going to be at. Otherwise, what are we even doing here?

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What is any of the, what is the point of you even telling us what the price is?

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00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Why don't you just not tell us anything? Yeah.

442
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:40,160
Yeah. I don't know. I mean, they've been getting away with like, blatantly, I don't know if I want to say lying.

443
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:46,320
Extremely misleading information about performance and keynotes for many, many, many, many years

444
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,040
at this point. Their stock is never what you'd expect.

445
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:55,000
The pricing of things hasn't been legitimate for, I don't know, six years or something

446
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:01,560
like that. I don't necessarily think they're going to be encouraged to change unless they have competition

447
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,520
and they don't have that right now. So I don't know.

448
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,600
People can be as mad at them as they want, but if everyone keeps buying their junk, then

449
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,840
it's not going to matter. Well, that's the thing that's frustrating because it's not junk.

450
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:23,680
It's a good product and people want to buy it, but it's the expectations versus reality

451
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:33,520
that I think is really, is really getting us here. Like, look, if we could review the 5070TI and NVIDIA were to say to us, yeah, realistic

452
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:41,000
street pricing is probably going to be anywhere from $850 to $1,000, then at least we can

453
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:48,080
communicate that. We can work with that. We can say, hey, this is a good card.

454
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:56,720
It's not a great value. Like this will handle high refresh rate, 1440p gaming and light 4K gaming.

455
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,280
You'll get more FPS out of it if you use these AI enhancement features and you can kind of

456
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:09,320
decide how you feel about that, et cetera. Pricing is a real weak point and we can have that conversation.

457
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,440
But if we are not given useful information, then I don't really know how to deal with

458
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,120
that. And I think that on some level at NVIDIA,

459
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,840
they've got to know that they're not giving the partners enough margin to hit these MSRPs

460
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:30,200
because that's feedback that I've heard in the background from NVIDIA partners going

461
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:37,120
back 10 years, that NVIDIA is constantly squeezing their margins tighter and tighter and tighter

462
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:46,200
and tighter and tighter with every generation. I mean, it's no mystery why EVGA doesn't exist anymore as a GPU maker because you can't operate

463
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:53,360
on these margins. You're caught between customer pricing expectations and NVIDIA's margin expectations for their

464
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,440
own shareholders, right?

465
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,160
And so if NVIDIA knows that they're not giving their partners enough margin to hit these

466
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,920
prices, then just say that.

467
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,240
Because yeah, it's not a bad product. I wouldn't mind a 5070 Ti.

468
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,080
Where am I supposed to get one? Look at this.

469
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,080
It's like...

470
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,080
You know, at a certain point, I just have to kind of look at it and go...

471
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:31,080
And this is honestly not good for my career, but at a certain point, I just have to look

472
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,080
at it and go, why do you even seed me one then?

473
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,080
Save it for a customer because clearly they're just going to buy it anyway.

474
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,080
Why do we... Why even bother having reviews?

475
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,080
That's kind of brutal, but yeah.

476
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:53,080
I would rather somebody is gaming on that card because I'm not gaming on it.

477
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:58,080
It's sitting in my warehouse. You've been talking, it's not just sitting in your warehouse, sir.

478
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:06,080
We're using it in the lab. But we're even thinking at some point in time, we're going to have to get our standard set

479
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:13,080
of lab 5090s for CPU testing so that we can reduce GPU as a variable.

480
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,080
In order to do that, we have to get a bunch of them. We have to buy a bunch of them.

481
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:24,080
How do we even adopt to that if we can't get the cards because they don't exist?

482
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,080
Yeah. I don't know. I'm just rooting for 9070.

483
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,080
I haven't paid much attention to the rumors.

484
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:39,080
Radeon 9070, guys. I haven't paid much attention to the rumors, so I don't know what the sort of scuttlebutt

485
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,080
is for why it's been delayed.

486
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:49,080
But it obviously got delayed given that AMD had ads going up in other regions to buy it

487
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,080
when it hadn't actually been launched yet.

488
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,080
I don't know why it's been delayed, but I really hope that it's not being delayed

489
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:05,080
because it's bad. I hope it's just being delayed because AMD is seeing an opportunity to not screw up

490
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,080
and they're like going to capitalize on it and they're pumping as many of these chips

491
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,080
as they can so they can do a huge launch and have as many cards as gamers could possibly

492
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,080
want to buy and the drivers are going to be so polished and it's going to be freaking awesome.

493
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,080
What are my odds, Luke? What are my odds?

494
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,080
Pretty low, I think.

495
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Pretty low, I think. Pretty low.

496
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:33,080
Are we just saying that, though, because AMD's Radeon division has let us down time and time

497
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:40,080
and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again?

498
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:45,080
Yeah, I think so. All right.

499
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,080
Oh, man. Chat is not.

500
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,080
Chat is not. Chat is not.

501
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,080
Oh, man, chat. Oh, man, chat is not.

502
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,080
Not confident. They're not confident. Oh, hold on.

503
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:03,080
No key. No key says, in a response to hardware unboxed, AMD's David McAfee shared,

504
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,080
I really appreciate the excitement for RDNA4.

505
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,080
We're focused on ensuring it's great to take a little extra time for software to blah, blah, blah,

506
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,080
more FSR4, wide range of partners.

507
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:19,080
And while some have started building initial inventory at retailers, you should expect many

508
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,080
and it trails off there. Perfect.

509
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,080
Thanks, no key. You should expect many more partner cards available at launch.

510
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Okay. But that's the thing, AMD.

511
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,080
I don't actually need a ton of different cards.

512
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:42,080
What I need is deep stock of a handful because realistically, I mean, as much as your partners,

513
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,080
I'm sure, really appreciate getting allocation of the chips and being able to put their

514
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,080
cooler on it and their PCB design and all that kind of stuff.

515
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,080
From a customer point of view, I don't really care.

516
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Like, doesn't really matter.

517
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:04,080
I just need the GPU that does that many FPSs in my gamey games.

518
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:11,080
I don't really care. I don't need, you know, what is this?

519
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,080
I don't need 15 cards to scroll through that are out of stock.

520
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,080
I don't really care.

521
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,080
Just please get the cards built, get them on the shelves.

522
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,080
I'm super excited. I hope.

523
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,080
Or I'm upset. We'll see. Find out.

524
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,080
Could be both. Yeah, it could be both. I could be upset, excited.

525
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:37,080
Still fumbling through this with Luke. Oh, geez, guys.

526
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Can you hear me now? Does it sound any better? Yeah.

527
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,080
Yeah, that's less robotic. Is it? All right.

528
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:48,080
Cool. Mr. Luke. Never mind.

529
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,080
My freaking headphones. All right.

530
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Cool. I'm going to just check to see if it's our local or theirs.

531
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,080
Or sorry. Oh, actually there is, hold on.

532
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:06,080
There is one, there is one potentially hopeful rumor.

533
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:13,080
It is rumored that gaming card availability could improve in the coming weeks due to data

534
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:21,080
center demand being lower than expected. And some of those wafers being repurposed for the production of gaming cards.

535
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:28,080
So that would be pretty cool. Also, there was one other bit of NVIDIA news this week that we haven't talked about yet.

536
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:37,080
And that is that the new 50 series cards appeared to not have support for older titles that

537
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:44,080
use FizzX. So they have no 32 bit FizzX support, meaning that if you want to play something like Batman,

538
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:50,080
Arkham Asylum, you're going to be stuck running FizzX on CPU, which even on modern CPUs is

539
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:56,080
really tough. Now, we were talking in writer's meeting today about alternatives.

540
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:02,080
Like what can you do? And one of the things that got pitched was going and like e-banging one of those old FizzX

541
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:08,080
cards. Do you remember those Luke? Like BFG had like a FizzX card that you could install.

542
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:14,080
And I guess before the NVIDIA acquisition, it would have been EGIA, EGIA FizzX card.

543
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,080
Unfortunately, there's no drivers for those for modern operating systems that I'm aware

544
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:28,080
of. And they're PCI cards. So you'd need a PCIe to PCI adapter and you'd have to sort of hope that that would work.

545
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:33,080
But I, yeah, I wouldn't have a lot of hope for it.

546
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:38,080
What I think would be more likely is running an older NVIDIA card that does have modern

547
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,080
support and pushing FizzX onto that. But I haven't actually investigated that yet.

548
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:49,080
Luke, do you remember if there was an easy way to specifically allocate one of your NVIDIA

549
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,080
GPUs to run FizzX? Because I thought there was.

550
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Do you remember the EVGA GTX 275 co-op?

551
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,080
Yeah. Yeah. And I remember people running dedicated FizzX cards.

552
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,080
So that must have been a thing. Yeah. This one.

553
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,080
Okay. So this one had two GPUs on it.

554
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:16,080
It had a, it had a 275 GTX 275 and then it had a special like second.

555
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:23,080
Yeah. There it is. It also had a GTS 250 that was supposed to be dedicated to FizzX.

556
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,080
M.DOS says there was a Reddit post on r slash LTD that showed a comparison that showed that.

557
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:37,080
Okay. Yeah. That will help.

558
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,080
The old page is still up on it as a tutorial. Yeah.

559
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Here we go. Nokia just posted this. Awesome.

560
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,080
To use a FizzX GPU accelerator on multi GPU systems.

561
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:51,080
Okay. So if that works, then I guess that helps a little bit, but I also just have to question

562
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:59,080
like how much die area did NVIDIA actually save?

563
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,080
Yeah. I just have to ban someone really quick and they're gone.

564
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,080
Cool. All right. At least I'm trying.

565
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Dan, if you could do it, that'd be great. Sorry.

566
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,080
What do you want? Things in the chat?

567
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,080
Don't worry about it. Okay.

568
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:21,080
Cool. What else we got for this week? What do you want to talk about, Mr. Luke?

569
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,080
iPhone 16e, I think.

570
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,080
Oh, yeah. We can talk about that.

571
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,080
The new iPhone 16e came out.

572
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,080
I assume that you weren't paying any attention to this, Luke.

573
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,080
No, I wasn't literally at all.

574
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:48,080
That's correct. So Apple finally launched a bit of a spiritual successor to the iPhone SE Gen 3.

575
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:57,080
So they've done three iPhone SEs so far and that's kind of their budget oriented iPhone.

576
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:03,080
But what's got people kind of riled this time around is that the last iPhone SE started

577
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:10,080
at $430, which I mean, I think sounds like a pretty good price for a phone that at the

578
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:15,080
time had what was Apple's flagship tier SOC in it.

579
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080
It was pretty light on the RAM and storage.

580
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,080
I believe it had four gigs of RAM and 64 gigs of storage.

581
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:26,080
So not too much for four years ago.

582
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:32,080
But top tier SOC and actually what a lot of people liked about it was it used an older

583
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:37,080
version of Apple's industrial design that had the fingerprint sensor and the home button

584
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:43,080
rather than using gesture controls like the iPhone 10, which had actually come out a few years prior.

585
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:49,080
So the iPhone SE was kind of like the little brother iPhone and it was priced as such,

586
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:58,080
$430, pretty good starting price. And I believe it was 400 and I want to say 480 for the one that had 128 gigs of storage.

587
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,080
So like a more reasonable amount of storage if you're going to be snapping any number of pictures

588
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:16,080
and recording any video. So what's got people riled is the price for this one starts at $600, which is a lot,

589
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,080
especially when you look at some of the some of the more budget friendly Android phones

590
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,080
that exist these days for as little as a few hundred bucks.

591
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:31,080
Like anywhere from three to $450, there's some pretty darn compelling options for Android phones.

592
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:36,080
And that's even ignoring secondhand flagships.

593
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:43,080
What is a previous generation Apple more affordable phone?

594
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:50,080
Like is this an increase in Apple's low end or is this just bad comparatively to Android cheap phones?

595
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:59,080
It is definitely an increase in Apple's low end because it used to start at 430 bucks or 480 for 128 gigs of storage.

596
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,080
And this one starts at $600 for 128 gigs of storage.

597
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:08,080
So I don't really buy the narrative that we went all the way from $430 to $600.

598
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,080
I see it as more of we went from $480 to $600.

599
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,080
And some of that realistically should have gone down in price.

600
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:22,080
That 128 gigs of storage has gone down a lot since the third generation iPhone SE launched.

601
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,080
However, there are some elements of the new E.

602
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:33,080
So the iPhone 16 E that have gone up in price substantially over the last four years.

603
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,080
Because once again, with the 16 E, we're getting a cutting edge SOC.

604
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:44,080
And I think that that's something that people are not necessarily assigning enough value to here.

605
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:52,080
In this phone, you are getting an SOC that is competitive with phones, Android phones that cost twice as much.

606
00:49:52,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Can you guys tell me an Android phone for 600 bucks that has a top spec, absolute top of the line SOC in it?

607
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,080
And there might be some, but I'm actually not aware of any.

608
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Go ahead, please guys, hit me with that. Unchained blades ask, okay, but the question is, do you even need that SOC?

609
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,080
And my answer is, not today.

610
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,080
No, today you don't.

611
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,080
No, I disagree that the Pixel 8 Pro has a top of the line SOC.

612
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:29,080
It's not even three nanometer. Like the only other top of the line SOC that I'm aware of is the latest Snapdragon.

613
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,080
And those are not coming in at $600.

614
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:38,080
Not that I'm aware of. Let me have a look here, Pixel 9 Pro XL.

615
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,080
Because that uses a little processor.

616
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:47,080
Let's have a look here. The Tensor G4.

617
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Oh my God.

618
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,080
Okay. Come on.

619
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,080
Just tell me the answer.

620
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:08,080
Yeah, Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 is the only other three nanometer chip that I'm aware of.

621
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:15,080
And hold on, let me finish that thought from earlier. So, um, yeah, no, you don't need it today.

622
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:22,080
But the point of the SE, or rather the E lineup, is not that you need that processor today.

623
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:30,080
It's that Apple builds these platforms, these entry-level devices for longevity.

624
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:38,080
Because unlike a lot of the Android handset makers that are going to build these, you know, 300, $400 phones, $500 phones even,

625
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Apple is committing, actually I don't think they commit,

626
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:49,080
but Apple internally is committing to support this thing for probably six, somewhere between six to eight revisions of iOS.

627
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,080
So no, you don't need that processor today.

628
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:57,080
And I think that that's an argument that a lot of people make when they look at the iPhone SE and they go,

629
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,080
well, this is just stupid because I could buy an iPhone 15 or an iPhone 14.

630
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:06,080
I could buy a couple of generation old iPhone and I could get a better experience today

631
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,080
because I might even be able to get like, you know, a 13 Pro or a 14 Pro or something like that.

632
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,080
And there's going to be some extra feature comforts that are built into that.

633
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,080
I'm going to get my MagSafe. I'm going to get these other features.

634
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:28,080
And that's great. And you can totally do that. Legging behind on secondhand or even just like last gen flagships that are brand new is a totally valid strategy.

635
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,080
But it's not who this product is meant to serve.

636
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:37,080
This product is meant to serve people who want the entry level iPhone that is brand new,

637
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,080
that they are not going to swap out for five, six, seven years.

638
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:52,080
Yeah. And so that's, I think, the thing that we're missing a little bit here is I see a few people talking about,

639
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:59,080
okay, Red Magic 10 Pro. Apparently that is a flagship processor for about 650 bucks.

640
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,080
So let's have a look. Red Magic 10 Pro, SoC.

641
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,080
So that's got a Snapdragon 8 Elite.

642
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,080
But ask me, but riddle me this.

643
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,080
Are you really going to compare Red Magic to iPhone?

644
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,080
How long has Red Magic committed to Android updates?

645
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,080
Let's see. They're promising three years.

646
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:36,080
Guys, the software updates are a huge, huge part of the cost of a phone.

647
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,080
It's not just the hardware. You're not just buying a bill of materials here.

648
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:46,080
You are buying an experience. You're buying a bill of materials plus you're buying the long-term support for this device

649
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,080
and you're buying the infrastructure around that. So when you buy...

650
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Unfortunately, I think part of the price might even reflect this.

651
00:53:52,080 --> 00:54:01,080
You're buying status to a certain degree. Possibly more than ever, especially as far as I've heard in America.

652
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:08,080
Because having an iPhone is cool and having an Android is not cool right now.

653
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,080
And I get that, but honestly, I don't kind of...

654
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,080
I don't... I understand that, but I don't want to get into that aspect of it

655
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,080
because I don't feel that way about a phone. That's not how I make a decision about a phone.

656
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:25,080
And I honestly think that the 16e is a reasonably compelling value

657
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,080
even if we completely ignore that element of it.

658
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,080
There are things that are missing. So let's talk through some of the things that are missing.

659
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:37,080
It doesn't have the dynamic island, the bullet wound display.

660
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:42,080
Instead, it has the old kind of wide notch.

661
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:48,080
It also lacks MagSafe. So it does support wireless charging.

662
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,080
That should be a given for a $600 phone these days.

663
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,080
But what it doesn't have is the alignment magnets.

664
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:01,080
So you can't take your MagSafe wallet or your MagSafe battery bank

665
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,080
or your MagSafe car mount or whatever else and just stick it on there.

666
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,080
MagSafe, very cool feature, not supported on it.

667
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:14,080
It has no camera control button and the wireless connectivity.

668
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,080
I think a pretty decent word for it is, let's put it this way,

669
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:25,080
is potentially sus. So Apple has finally, I'm catching Luke up,

670
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:31,080
but also any of you who didn't check out the launch coverage, Apple has finally launched a product around their acquisition

671
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,080
of Intel's wireless modem team.

672
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,080
I think it was like five years ago now.

673
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,080
So Apple has their first in-house modem in this handset.

674
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,080
And that comes with some caveats.

675
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,080
There's no support for Wi-Fi 6E.

676
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,080
So no Wi-Fi 7 I get in a budget phone,

677
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,080
but no Wi-Fi 6E is a bit of a tough pill to swallow.

678
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,080
And this one I don't care about as much, but your mileage may vary.

679
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,080
No support for millimeter wave 5G.

680
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,080
So if you live in a densely populated urban area

681
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,080
and you happen to have millimeter wave around you, then you won't be using that.

682
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,080
Personally, I don't. So I don't really care about that.

683
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:17,080
I would never get a chance to use it. Both of those being non-included feels a little bit weird

684
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,080
with the feature-proofing messaging that they've thrown out.

685
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,080
Yes, but I actually have a counterpoint to my own point here.

686
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,080
Wi-Fi 6 is not that bad.

687
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,080
And for anything that you're going to need to be doing on your phone,

688
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,080
like it's pretty incredible to see Jake actually,

689
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,080
he hosted a ShortCircuit a little while ago, looking at Ubiquiti's new pro access points.

690
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,080
And I think he hit over 2 gigabit a second.

691
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,080
2 gigabit a second on a Wi-Fi connection.

692
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,080
At range, at a distance, he was doing over a gigabit,

693
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,080
which is mind-blowing.

694
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,080
What do I need 100 megabytes a second for?

695
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,080
I'm going to be limited by DNS look-ups

696
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,080
before I'm going to be limited by drawing data down to my phone

697
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:13,080
at that speed. It doesn't matter once you get past a certain speed.

698
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,080
And no, I'm not convinced that my auntie needs more

699
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,080
than what Wi-Fi 6 can do, which is, if I recall correctly,

700
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,080
it's up in the 750 to 850 megabit range.

701
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,080
Don't quote me on that, but it's enough

702
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,080
for what the iPhone SE customer is going to need to do with it.

703
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,080
As for MagSafe, there's a lot of third-party cases

704
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:40,080
that have magnet alignment landmarks in them

705
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:45,080
or that basically can take an Android phone

706
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,080
and make it MagSafe compatible.

707
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:53,080
I'm sure they already exist. If they don't, it'll be a matter of minutes.

708
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:59,080
I haven't actually looked into it. But finding a MagSafe upgrade case for the iPhone 16e

709
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,080
is going to be a trivial matter in the longer term.

710
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,080
There's still drawbacks. So instead of being able to go at higher wattages,

711
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,080
you're limited to 7.5 watts of wireless charging, which is sort of a downer.

712
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:18,080
But I'm just not convinced that the lack of a dynamic island,

713
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,080
the lack of built-in MagSafe that I can just add with a case

714
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,080
that most people are going to use anyway, and slower Wi-Fi and millimeter wave,

715
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,080
I'm not convinced that it's that big of a deal.

716
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,080
Apple D-brand has apparently already advertised it, according to Cato S and Andre B and Harris.

717
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,080
Okay, everyone's telling me D-brand's got it already. There you go.

718
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,080
No, I'm not trying hard not to say D-brand, guys. I just wasn't looking at the chat there.

719
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:46,080
So it's $600 for a phone that has a flagship SoC.

720
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:53,080
It finally has a decent amount of starting storage. It has the same amount of RAM as the rest of the iPhone 16 lineup.

721
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,080
So what's going to happen? What that tells me? And Apple hasn't explicitly said this,

722
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:02,080
but what that tells me is that they're going to age this thing out

723
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,080
pretty much in lockstep with the rest of the 16 lineup.

724
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,080
They kept that performance there on purpose. They did that because they have an eye

725
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,080
on how long they need to support this bloody thing,

726
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,080
and they're making sure that it's going to have the horsepower for them to do it.

727
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:24,080
I don't know, man. I think that people are giving it a really hard time

728
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:32,080
and missing the point of the product a little bit.

729
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,080
Not everything is made for you.

730
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,080
Some products are made for my auntie,

731
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:44,080
and she doesn't care. She doesn't need that stuff.

732
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:50,080
What she wants is a phone that she buys and then doesn't think about for the better part of a decade.

733
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,080
That's what she wants.

734
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,080
Oh, there is one thing that I miss. It doesn't have Apple's ultra-wideband chips,

735
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,080
which is, in my opinion, actually the biggest missing feature.

736
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:12,080
I'm sorry I missed that. You guys are right.

737
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:18,080
So anyway, yep, new iPhone 16e.

738
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,080
You want one yet, Luke? No.

739
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:30,080
Yeah, I can't wait to get off of my iPhone either. Actually, oh, I've got something really funny for you guys.

740
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:36,080
In my coverage of the iPhone 16e,

741
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:42,080
one of the drawbacks that I brought up was what a steaming pile of dog crap iOS 18 is.

742
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,080
And there was not one, but many comments,

743
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:51,080
basically just accusing me of being a biased jackass

744
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,080
who hates Apple. And so, since that video launched,

745
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,080
which was two days ago,

746
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,080
I have collected a couple, not one,

747
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:06,080
but two clips of my iOS 18 phone

748
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,080
behaving in absolutely bat-shit-crazy ways

749
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,080
for your guys' enjoyment. Dan, do you happen to have a USB-C cable over there?

750
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,080
I do. Do you want USB-C to USB-C?

751
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:21,080
No, I want you to just ingest the last two clips.

752
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,080
Oh, okay. Last two video clips off of this thing.

753
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,080
They're flippin' wild.

754
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:32,080
So I recorded them with my Note 9 because I didn't want to start screen recording

755
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,080
on the iPhone in case it disrupted

756
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,080
the weird, bizarre buggy behavior that it was exhibiting.

757
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,080
Ranma Chan says,

758
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:47,080
I have zero issues with iOS 18, lol. And that's great. And that's totally cool.

759
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,080
And I'm super happy for you.

760
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:56,080
That's absolutely incredible. I love it. But it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people do.

761
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,080
And your lack of issues, 100% does not invalidate

762
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,080
the very real issues that I am running into

763
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:08,080
with this bloody phone. It's driving me absolutely crazy.

764
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:13,080
You know what you're going to switch to? No, I'm just going back to your Note, are you?

765
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,080
It's the other phone that I carry right now,

766
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,080
but no, no, I'm not going to.

767
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,080
I'm not going to.

768
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:28,080
You know what I really want to use? Is that horrible Huawei tri-fold one

769
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:33,080
that had all the breakage issues? But I heard that Samsung's going to be releasing a tri-fold.

770
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,080
I'm kind of tempted. I'm kind of tempted.

771
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:40,080
I set you something while we're at the first one.

772
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,080
Hold on a second. Dan's got the videos.

773
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:51,080
Dan's got the videos. Here we go. Oh, they're just the most recent camera videos.

774
01:02:55,080 --> 01:03:00,080
LG Wing Stop. I am never using the LG Wing again, you guys.

775
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:05,080
That is absolutely not happening. And yes, pug boy, I'd love to give the Sony Xperia some love

776
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,080
if anyone from Sony is watching this, okay?

777
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:16,080
Let me move the task switcher and back buttons around

778
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,080
and I'm so in. I'm in right now. I'm in yesterday. I'm done.

779
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,080
I don't want to install some third-party weirdo thing.

780
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:28,080
I just want you to just allow me to do that and then I'm good. I'm ready to go. So ready.

781
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,080
I'm with you on that, even if I'm a Sony fanboy.

782
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,080
So ready. Not okay. All right, you got them?

783
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,080
Yeah, it's just upside down. Oh, well, whatever. Good enough.

784
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:46,080
Give me a sec. Oh, okay. Dan, he's working on it. Let him cook. Let him cook.

785
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:51,080
Okay, so here's our first one.

786
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:56,080
Am I able to narrate these? Okay, check this out. This is a first-party app.

787
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:01,080
This is Safari.

788
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:06,080
This is a first-party app, just completely broken

789
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,080
until I open up a text thing. Can you play that again?

790
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:13,080
Yep. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead and play that again.

791
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,080
Just what?

792
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:22,080
I am not even like, dude, I get all kinds of weird app crashes and strange behavior

793
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:26,080
in Gmail or whatever, right?

794
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,080
This is a first-party app. This was today.

795
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,080
I don't know if you guys could see the date on it, but this was today.

796
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:36,080
Okay, what else we got? The second one is a dark video.

797
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,080
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yep, go for it.

798
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,080
So I'm in Discord with Luke.

799
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:50,080
And did you see me type? Can you see my keyboard at all?

800
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,080
Where is my keyboard?

801
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:59,080
What is happening right now? I can type, but it's not there.

802
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,080
I must be holding it wrong, right, people?

803
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,080
So you can tell that this is recent. This is since the release of that video,

804
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:11,080
because Luke and I are talking about the results of the big USA vs. Canada game.

805
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,080
So this is last night, I guess.

806
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:19,080
There it is. It's back. I'm using the first-party keyboard.

807
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:24,080
Guys, do not gaslight me and tell me that iOS 18

808
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:28,080
is not a buggy piece of s***. Do not do that.

809
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,080
I'm sorry guys, I can't bleep the video. I would have tried, but yeah.

810
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,080
And look, I fully acknowledge that Android

811
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:40,080
is a buggy piece of s*** and Windows is a buggy piece of s***.

812
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,080
Everything is a buggy piece of s***,

813
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,080
including iOS.

814
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,080
No, I'm not even mad. Guys, I'm not even mad, because honestly,

815
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,080
it's not that much worse

816
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:58,080
than like anything else. It just isn't better.

817
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,080
And if you tell yourself over and over again,

818
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:07,080
it's better, it's better, it's better, it's better, it's so much better, it's better, it's better.

819
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:11,080
You're deluded. You're deluding yourself.

820
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,080
It's not better. It's buggy garbage, like everything,

821
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,080
and we should be honest about it so that we can have these conversations.

822
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:23,080
Let's have these conversations. Let's push these manufacturers to do better,

823
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,080
but we can't do that if we just go,

824
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,080
la la la, no, it's good enough. It's good enough, la la la.

825
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,080
We can't have these conversations. That's it.

826
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:37,080
That's all I have to say about that. So if you commented on that video going,

827
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,080
line us out on what you're talking about. iOS 18 is perfect.

828
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,080
Maybe you're a really light user.

829
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:48,080
You don't use the browser. You don't use the keyboard.

830
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,080
Or they just don't run into problems.

831
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,080
I've had problems with, I had a ton of problems with this Pixel phone

832
01:06:55,080 --> 01:07:00,080
when I first got it, and now I have practically none.

833
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:06,080
I don't know what happened. Nothing really changed. I just don't have the same problems anymore.

834
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:10,080
It's been a tradition for me that the people,

835
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:14,080
the other people that I know that have Pixel phones will have other various random issues

836
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:18,080
and I won't have the same ones at all, but they have a totally different subset

837
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,080
of random issues that they won't have.

838
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,080
So, I don't know.

839
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,080
Bazag in Floatplane chat said some very true words here.

840
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:33,080
Floatplane is the only 100% bug-free software.

841
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,080
That's true.

842
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:41,080
You can't even meme it.

843
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,080
Yeah. For sure, dude.

844
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,080
Oh, definitely. Nothing is perfect. Nothing is perfect,

845
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,080
but pretending it is is not healthy,

846
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:54,080
is all I'm trying to say. Perfect on Firefox.

847
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,080
Yeah. Linus, do you want your phone back? Oh, yeah, sure.

848
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:01,080
You can give my phone back if you wanted. I don't know why you don't just automatically

849
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:05,080
solve all your iOS issues by just running Firefox on your phone.

850
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,080
Yeah, right. That would definitely fix it.

851
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,080
Pretty hilarious though, right? It took me less than 48 hours

852
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,080
to produce hard video evidence

853
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,080
of just...

854
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,080
I don't think anyone could call either of those things

855
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:26,080
anything other than broken. That's broken.

856
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,080
That's just plain broken, and both of them were first-party pieces of software.

857
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,080
The built-in keyboard. So, I'm not even using Swift Key anymore

858
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,080
because I gave up because the built-in keyboard kept superseding it

859
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,080
without me telling it to. So, I just gave up

860
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,080
and started using the built-in keyboard. And then the fact that my second app issue

861
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:48,080
was with Safari, which is foundational.

862
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,080
Okay, that's foundational first-party software.

863
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,080
Oh.

864
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,080
Yeah. Video is made with a perfect Note 9.

865
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,080
I know, right? If Samsung...

866
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,080
Okay, I'm going to talk to Samsung now. Samsung.

867
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,080
Okay, if you guys are listening,

868
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:13,080
Note 9 Mark II.

869
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,080
Hear me out. Note 9 Mark II.

870
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,080
I want to see it. No notch.

871
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:24,080
No hole in the front display. Just give me a nice skinny little forehead up there, okay?

872
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,080
Give me that rear fingerprint sensor. Right?

873
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,080
What else do I want? Give me that headphone jack, that microSD expansion.

874
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:37,080
A flagship phone with all the features you put in your budget phones.

875
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,080
Jay Zimmer says that will never happen. I know.

876
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,080
I know. I know it'll never happen, but I just...

877
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,080
I want it. You know? I just...

878
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,080
I want it. And no, I don't want an S25 Ultra

879
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,080
because they don't have the stupid Bluetooth remote trigger for the stylus anymore.

880
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,080
That is one of my favorite features on the stylus. It's so cool.

881
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,080
I use it all the time.

882
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:06,080
I'm just going to start yelling at Sony

883
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,080
to fix their buttons so that you can use this. Yeah.

884
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,080
Yeah, seriously. If you know anyone who works at Sony

885
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,080
in their mobile division, all four of them that still are there,

886
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,080
just let them know. I'm ready.

887
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,080
I'm here. I'm so ready. I'm ready right now.

888
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,080
I'm ready to do it. I want to go Sony.

889
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,080
Okay. How about some merch messages? Oh, right.

890
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,080
What are we even supposed to be doing today? Merch messages.

891
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,080
Oh, right. The WAN Show. Okay.

892
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,080
This is great. Well, why don't we get the announcements out of the way

893
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,080
before we do merch messages? Oh, wait. No, we'll do the explanation of merch messages first.

894
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,080
So the way to interact with the show is a merch messages.

895
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,080
We don't do super chats. We don't do Twitch bits or anything like that.

896
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,080
If you want to chat with Mr. Dan, the producer,

897
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,080
have him send you... Wow, that is some wicked moire.

898
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,080
Yeah. Never wear that sweater again.

899
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,080
That's okay. I've got a new one right here.

900
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:04,080
So all you got to do is head to the cart at LTTstore.com

901
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,080
to send in a merch message. And producer Dan will throw it down there,

902
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,080
respond to it, or curate it for me and Luke

903
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:17,080
to address on the show. And a pretty special thing for you guys to add to your cart

904
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:22,080
today is the all new framework all over embroidered hoodie.

905
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:27,080
This thing is so cool. And yes, this is a very high price for a hoodie.

906
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:31,080
But what it is, is a very reasonable price

907
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,080
for an all over embroidered garment.

908
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:39,080
That is not printed. That is fricking embroidery.

909
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,080
It looks so cool.

910
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,080
This is like one of the coolest garments

911
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:51,080
that we have ever done, you guys. I am extremely proud of what the team put together here.

912
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:56,080
Flipping awesome. This was a collaboration with Framework.

913
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,080
They're not profiting or anything like that from it.

914
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:03,080
But basically, we reached out to them and we were like,

915
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:08,080
hey, we had this idea for doing an all over embroidered garment.

916
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:14,080
We wanted it to be kind of circuit board, PCB inspired.

917
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:19,080
And would you guys be down, you know, intellectual property,

918
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:25,080
notwithstanding, would you guys be down to send us the layouts,

919
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,080
send us the board drawings for your Framework 13?

920
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,080
I believe it's the Framework 13. Don't quote me on that.

921
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:35,080
It could be the 16. I can't remember. But would you be down to send us the board layout

922
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:40,080
for one of your laptops? And then we'll build that as a repeating pattern

923
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,080
into the fabric before we sew these together.

924
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:49,080
And they were like, um, there could be some like, you know,

925
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,080
patent or IP issues with some of our partners.

926
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:57,080
Let us abstract it a little bit, but, um, yeah,

927
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:03,080
that sounds pretty cool. So we've, uh, so it's, we're calling it the,

928
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,080
the essence of a Framework motherboard.

929
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,080
Um, and then we've embroidered it throughout every inch of the fabric.

930
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,080
Like, dude, how cool is this?

931
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,080
I'm actually super, super stoked on this.

932
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:20,080
Uh, one of the first ones that we made was actually given to

933
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,080
Narav, CEO of Framework, um, at CES this year.

934
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:28,080
And I saw him, I saw him rocking it as he was walking up to the

935
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,080
NVIDIA keynote. Super cool.

936
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:38,080
Oh man. This really is one of the coolest products that we have ever made.

937
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:42,080
Um, anyway, so that's, uh, that's available starting this week.

938
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,080
Um, it's crafted with brushed 100% cotton terry fabric for softer,

939
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,080
more comfortable feel than our already cozy regular hoodies.

940
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,080
And like with any LTT hoodie, or at least most of them, I think, uh,

941
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,080
we added a little secure pocket for your phone or earbuds.

942
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:59,080
We used YKK zippers and even added subtle LTT touches,

943
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:04,080
like the logos on the ends of our custom baby chunk draw chords.

944
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:08,080
Uh, I don't know if we've got a good picture of the draw chords here for you guys,

945
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,080
but they really are, they really are baby chunk.

946
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,080
Let me see if I can find one.

947
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,080
Yeah, there it is. Yeah, there it is.

948
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,080
Little detail there.

949
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,080
That cost, that costs us extra, but hey, we care about the little details,

950
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,080
you guys.

951
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,080
So cool.

952
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,080
Anyway, yeah, it's $150 hoodie.

953
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:40,080
Whatever. Compare it to other fully all over embroidered hoodies,

954
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,080
and I'm not going to apologize for that. It's a, it's a super cool hoodie.

955
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,080
Oh, Artie's like wear it. Yeah, sorry, I forgot.

956
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:59,080
Thanks, Artie. I was actually wearing it all day. Uh, the only, oh, oh yeah.

957
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,080
No, I already have one already. Thanks. There's one on the chair behind me.

958
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,080
Um, yeah. Oh, I freaking love it.

959
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,080
It's so cool. Don't worry, Luke.

960
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,080
There's one for you. It's over there on your, uh, on your hanger.

961
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,080
Okay. I was actually kind of sad. I didn't get this one.

962
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,080
Yeah, I know. Don't worry, I got you. Oh my gosh.

963
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,080
The arms fit as well. What have you done? Oh, nice.

964
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,080
This is phenomenal. Let's go. Oh, it's so comfy.

965
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,080
Let's go. Let's go. I'm just going to keep the moire.

966
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,080
All right. So do you want to show our friends how, uh, our parasocial friends,

967
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,080
how a merch message works? I'm actually going to take this off because it looks a little bit weird,

968
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:41,080
uh, being behind me. Double sweater. I like fade into my, into my chair.

969
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:48,080
I've got a comment here from Nate first. Why do you all have to make so much cool stuff and make me spend my money rude?

970
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,080
Sorry. Thanks for being real. And keep the good times rolling.

971
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:58,080
All right. So I'm trying to bring back the land room at my local convention next Friday.

972
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,080
I have never run a land before. Do you have any tips or tricks that could help?

973
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,080
Uh, February. Uh, he's not trying to do it by next Friday.

974
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:10,080
Oh, sorry. Good effort. Um, any tips or tricks that could help?

975
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:16,080
I mean, one big one, huge is control the scope.

976
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:22,080
Okay. Don't try to host a 300 person event right out of the gate.

977
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:28,080
Okay. On the first one, I'd say it's really important to make sure that you're doing it with

978
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:33,080
people that kind of are going to keep their expectations in check.

979
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,080
Um, I'm not saying you have to necessarily do it for free,

980
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,080
but I would say that if you were going to ask people to pay,

981
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,080
it should be on the order of like beer money for the first one or energy drink

982
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:50,080
money or whatever the case may be. You know, try, try to, try to break even try to have some fun with it.

983
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:57,080
Don't overdo the scope. Um, the other big one I would say is plan for what your,

984
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,080
what your big games are going to be. You know, what are you all going to play together?

985
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:09,080
Because that's what makes a land special. That's what makes it memorable is the times that you were all playing together.

986
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:13,080
So whether it's like a worms Armageddon tournament or whether you guys are going

987
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:19,080
to like, you know, get some, uh, Halo custom edition going or, uh, you know,

988
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,080
what are some other really good like land land games, Luke?

989
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:27,080
Yeah. I mean, this is what, this is the point that I was going to bring up actually was

990
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,080
stay away from the super popular games.

991
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:36,080
Um, try to find stuff that is like a lot of the things that Linus just mentioned

992
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:41,080
are well known as land games, but people don't actually play them a lot outside

993
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:47,080
of lands, which is perfect because you don't want people who are like super

994
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,080
practiced or super trained on this particular game.

995
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:56,080
You want a bunch of people going into it fairly raw because that will hopefully

996
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,080
have more people at a similar skill level.

997
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:03,080
Um, if you picked like Call of Duty and then you have someone that every single

998
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,080
day after work, they go home and play Call of Duty.

999
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:13,080
They're just going to ruin the lobbies for everybody. So you kind of want to, unless, unless this is like a group of people that play

1000
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:17,080
a very particular type of game and then you're coming together to play that game

1001
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,080
and that is fun and that is cool. That's one thing.

1002
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:26,080
If it's just a big multi game, whatever have fun land, it's mostly interesting

1003
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:31,080
to bring in things that people don't know about or are just kind of silly fun.

1004
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:35,080
Like something like worms ARM again, it kind of fits in as both to be honest.

1005
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:40,080
Um, it's silly fun and it's very unlikely that people just sit at home grinding this game.

1006
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:47,080
This is cool. We did a, we did a carpoon tournament, um, at whale land at the last LTX.

1007
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:53,080
Okay. So you, uh, you're a tow truck with a harpoon and you, you tow cars into the

1008
01:18:53,080 --> 01:19:01,080
masher to recycle them or whatever. Um, you know, find, yeah, find stuff like that.

1009
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,080
Find stuff that's, that's going to be memorable and different.

1010
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:09,080
Um, and then it, you know, be ready for there to be some technical issues.

1011
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,080
Um, I would say, I would say don't overthink the networking.

1012
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:16,080
You're probably going to have the network nerds in your life coming in and.

1013
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:21,080
Okay. I'm about to give some very, very bad advice, but as long as you are doing this

1014
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:25,080
with only people that you like know and trust and can manage the expectations of,

1015
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:29,080
but you know, other than just making sure that everyone has their firewall enabled

1016
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,080
on their local machine, I wouldn't worry about, you know, going and trying to set up

1017
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:37,080
the lands and trying to set up a bunch of complicated stuff.

1018
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:41,080
Keep it small. Just connect to dumb switches.

1019
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:45,080
Don't overthink it. Have fun. Scale from there.

1020
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,080
Yeah.

1021
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,080
Yeah. And Mage quit super fun.

1022
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:56,080
T three one T three D. Don't be afraid to, don't be afraid to have, have a couch.

1023
01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:00,080
Like if you can get a couch and like one PC and get some controller, tell everyone,

1024
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:04,080
Hey, bring a controller. Um, lots of fun.

1025
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,080
And it's something that people can't do at home. They can't do at home on their own.

1026
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:12,080
So Mage quit is a really fun game. It's up to eight players, I believe, or does it support even more?

1027
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:18,080
Mage quit. Uh, we actually played it at our, at our executive retreat a while back up to 10.

1028
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,080
Up to 10. Yeah. It's, it's really fun.

1029
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:26,080
Very cool. It's like a, like an arena brawler.

1030
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:32,080
Also, don't, don't be afraid to have games that aren't even necessarily on the computers.

1031
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:36,080
Um, like at one of the whale lands, we did chair curling.

1032
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:41,080
Yeah. Where you just like took rolling chairs and you just curled them and it was fun.

1033
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:46,080
People had a great time. Like ultimately you're all there hanging out, having fun.

1034
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:52,080
It doesn't necessarily particularly matter. Like if it's a PC land, like Linus said, you can have a couch and play some game that

1035
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:57,080
isn't just sitting in front of your monitors. Um, you can also just like get up and do other random stuff.

1036
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:01,080
Uh, a very classic land game is hard drive shuffleboard where people bring in their

1037
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:05,080
old dead hard drives and you just play like shuffleboard on the ground with them.

1038
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,080
Um, yeah, feel free to mix it up.

1039
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:12,080
Just have fun. Oh man. Maybe that's where my Bitcoin hydra went.

1040
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,080
Maybe. All right. Here's another one for you.

1041
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:21,080
Hey, I bought the Nokia wireless VR adapter like a year ago and it was dead on arrival.

1042
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,080
Support has been absolutely terrible and I don't have a resolution.

1043
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:30,080
What would you do or recommend? Oh, we're talking about HP and support and stuff like that.

1044
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:37,080
Yeah. That's terrible. Did those guys still exist because I was trying to get mine set up and I couldn't get it working

1045
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:41,080
and I booked a call with them a couple of times and I was actually the one who ghosted

1046
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,080
because I got busy with, um, actually it was a death in the family that was the reason

1047
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:51,080
that I moved my last one. Um, and I just didn't feel motivated to get it fixed.

1048
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:56,080
Once I had all my wires all hooked up again. Um, I don't know.

1049
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:02,080
Are they, are they, have they just disappeared? Cause I was really interested in the product and I wanted to review it.

1050
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:07,080
I mean, their website is still, their website is still here.

1051
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,080
Do they have like a blog or like,

1052
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,080
how do you fix TBA?

1053
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,080
What am I even looking at here? Okay.

1054
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,080
So there's been no updates since December of last year.

1055
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:23,080
Okay. That's only a couple of months ago though.

1056
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:29,080
I mean, other than posting about it on social media, posting about it on Reddit.

1057
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,080
Really? It's a bit of a request.

1058
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:38,080
Okay. Audio drops out and never returns, but a resolution unplugged the DP cable.

1059
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,080
Man, I don't know what to tell you other than, yeah, trying,

1060
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:49,080
trying to get attention from, from them and or someone else on social media.

1061
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:55,080
I mean, their last post on Twitter was, uh, like two and a half weeks ago.

1062
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,080
So theoretically these guys are still around.

1063
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,080
It's just a question of whether they're actually providing support.

1064
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,080
That's super crummy.

1065
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,080
I'm sorry to hear that.

1066
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:13,080
I mean, I guess you've already definitely driven some attention to your case

1067
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:17,080
because here we are talking about it. Um, I would, I would love to hear.

1068
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:21,080
You're like trying to get someone's attention on social media. I was like, well, that worked.

1069
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,080
Yeah. Sorry. I didn't even, I wasn't really, I wasn't really thinking about that.

1070
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:28,080
We're social media. I was focused. I was focused.

1071
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,080
Technically this is internet television.

1072
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:36,080
Yeah. So we'd like to, we'd like to hear soon that that is resolved, uh, nofio.

1073
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,080
That's what we'd like to hear.

1074
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,080
All right.

1075
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,080
Oh, do we need to do sponsors, Mr. Dan? Yeah, why not?

1076
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,080
Mr. Dan wants us to do this sponsors. Okay.

1077
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,080
We will do the sponsors. What does Dennis have in store for us this week?

1078
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:58,080
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All right. What do we want to talk about next, Mr. Luke?

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One thing, you were talking about phones to switch to,

1125
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:14,080
and I asked you during CES, but neither of us had a lot of time to really talk about it, about HMD phones.

1126
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:18,080
And it just reminded me of that when you said you didn't know what phone to switch to.

1127
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I don't necessarily know if this is a good idea,

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01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:25,080
but I had just overheard a conversation about them while we were at CES,

1129
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,080
and I looked them up just now during the show.

1130
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:33,080
And they have a 9 out of 10 repairability score on iFixit,

1131
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:37,080
and they have very easy ways and replaceable parts for like the screen and the battery

1132
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:42,080
and all this other stuff, which sounds great. What am I looking at?

1133
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,080
What, HMD phones? What do you mean?

1134
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,080
Seriously?

1135
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:54,080
Can you see my screen change? No, click on the smart phone one.

1136
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:59,080
Click on the smart phone. New company phones?

1137
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,080
I think the one people are talking about is the Skyline.

1138
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,080
I think that's the main one that people discuss. Oh my goodness, they have so many.

1139
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:10,080
Okay, the Skyline. Nissan phone.

1140
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:14,080
HMD. Here's the T.

1141
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:18,080
Replace a cracked screen and other parts at home.

1142
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:22,080
Digital detox mode. How do I not know about these guys?

1143
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,080
Am I just out of the loop here?

1144
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:32,080
Yeah, I don't know. The 9 out of 10 repairability from iFixit was surprising and reassuring to me.

1145
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,080
Some people say that the boot loaders locked down,

1146
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,080
and they only promised two years of Android updates.

1147
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:45,080
I don't know if that's true. I'm just reading some comments. So that's kind of a yikes, but the repairability stuff is pretty cool.

1148
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,080
Oh, apparently it's just Nokia.

1149
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:52,080
Oh, okay. Oh, this is a heart?

1150
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:56,080
Oh, it's a heart. Okay, that's something.

1151
01:28:56,080 --> 01:29:01,080
What's a heart? His finger and thumb. Apparently this is a heart.

1152
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:05,080
Oh, all right. No one does that.

1153
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:09,080
Well, I'd never heard of it. Stop trying to make fingers happen.

1154
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:16,080
Okay, all right. So it's apparently Nokia, but it wasn't wasn't Nokia bought?

1155
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:22,080
So is is HMD Nokia or is Nokia brand just owned by HMD?

1156
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:28,080
HMD Global Oy is a licensee of the Nokia brand for phones.

1157
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:32,080
Nokia is a registered trademark of Nokia Corporation.

1158
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:38,080
Okay, so who actually are these guys then?

1159
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:44,080
Who owns HMD?

1160
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:49,080
Was formed after Microsoft relinquished its rights to the Nokia brand in 2016.

1161
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:57,080
Foxconn took over Microsoft's feature phone business and Foxconn founder Terry Goo is the main owner of HMD Global.

1162
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,080
This is from September 2023.

1163
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,080
And HMD Global seems to own Nokia, yeah.

1164
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:08,080
Got it. Okay, so they're not Nokia. Nokia is them.

1165
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,080
Yeah. Got it.

1166
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,080
Got it. Yeah, I don't know. They seem pretty cheap.

1167
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:21,080
They seem repairable. Both of those things sound cool.

1168
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,080
Chad is also saying the finger thing is a very Korean thing.

1169
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,080
K-pop thing. Got it.

1170
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:32,080
Makes a lot more sense. Okay, well, I will take that under consideration.

1171
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,080
Thank you, Luke. Just an idea. That's all.

1172
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:42,080
Okay. Why don't we talk about the Ryzen AI Max 300 series?

1173
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:46,080
Yeah. Well, I want to talk about it.

1174
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:51,080
Even if you don't. Basically, these things are awesome.

1175
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:56,080
They have a horrible name because thank you AMD for that.

1176
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,080
But these things are sick.

1177
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:05,080
The Ryzen AI Max Plus 395 is like the coolest mobile processor

1178
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:09,080
that I think I have seen that I can remember off the top of my head.

1179
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,080
16 cores, up to 5.1 gigahertz boost.

1180
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:16,080
Massive cache, 40 graphics cores.

1181
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:21,080
And I believe they're RDNA 3. I want to say RDNA 3 or 3.5 or something like that.

1182
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:27,080
Basically, like good ones. And up to 120 flipping watts TDP.

1183
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:34,080
And that's not even the best part. The best part is that these, unlike a lot of AMD's processors

1184
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:38,080
that have AI bolted onto them for no apparent reason in the product name,

1185
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,080
are actually pretty compelling for AI.

1186
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:47,080
Because they can be configured with up to 128 gigs of memory

1187
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:51,080
that can be reallocated between the CPU and the GPU.

1188
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:55,080
Up to, I believe, it's 96 gigs in Windows.

1189
01:31:55,080 --> 01:32:00,080
And then up to, I think, about 110 in Linux can be allocated to the GPU.

1190
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,080
So kind of like we've seen with the Mac Studio,

1191
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:07,080
these things are going to be absolute monsters

1192
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,080
in terms of the size of the models that they can handle.

1193
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,080
These things are so freaking cool.

1194
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:18,080
Which is interesting because that became significantly more relevant

1195
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:24,080
after they were announced. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1196
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:29,080
There's lower end models that can, oh, right, right.

1197
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:35,080
And what's really cool is because they wanted to keep this onboard GPU fed,

1198
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,080
this massively powerful onboard GPU.

1199
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:45,080
Hold on a second, I'm just going to check the notes here. I'm trying to remember exactly what it was comparable to.

1200
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:50,080
Don't quote me on this because I don't think I see it in my notes.

1201
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,080
But I think it was supposed to be comparable to something like a 4070 mobile.

1202
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:58,080
Like this onboard GPU is flipping nuts on the top spec model.

1203
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:06,080
It's either 4060 Ti or 4070. I will let chat, let me know what's going on.

1204
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:10,080
But it is, I was running Blacksmith Wukong on it at CES.

1205
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:14,080
And I was like, whoa, no, this is actually running.

1206
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:19,080
So in order to keep this GPU fed, that up to 128 gigs of memory

1207
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,080
is on this massively wide bus.

1208
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,080
I think it's like 256 bit or something like that.

1209
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,080
So it does make the board design a little bit more challenging

1210
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,080
and there's a video coming soon where we'll be talking a little bit

1211
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:36,080
in more detail about that. So that's why we're not seeing a lot of devices with these in them.

1212
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:42,080
But they're so powerful because it's the memory is so fast

1213
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:46,080
for both the CPU and GPU because they needed to make it fast enough

1214
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,080
to run that GPU. It's so cool.

1215
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,080
And it's even better than I thought.

1216
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:56,080
So I talked about this in a fair amount of detail

1217
01:33:56,080 --> 01:34:00,080
with at least what we had when I did coverage of the ROG Flow Z13

1218
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,080
in the ASUS booth at CES. But now that they're out and people can actually benchmark them

1219
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:08,080
in their own studios, the Fox, who you guys might remember,

1220
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,080
we've talked about him before, not in a while.

1221
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:14,080
He really focuses on gaming handhelds.

1222
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,080
Super cool guy. Let me see.

1223
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:21,080
I think he's got a video so you got... Wait, hold on a second.

1224
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:26,080
Did he review our precision screwdriver?

1225
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,080
Did you know about this? Did I talk about this?

1226
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,080
Did I just forget about this? What the heck?

1227
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,080
Did we even know about this? What?

1228
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,080
I didn't know about this. No way.

1229
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:41,080
Cool.

1230
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:45,080
Interesting.

1231
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,080
Wow, how about that? Okay. Cool.

1232
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:56,080
Well, thanks anyway. Yeah, anyway.

1233
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:59,080
Yeah, here we go. So you guys are going to want to go check out his video.

1234
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,080
Here's his channel.

1235
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:09,080
So anyway, he really specializes in handheld gaming PCs,

1236
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:14,080
handheld chips, and people were worried that since the low end

1237
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:19,080
of AMD's advertised sort of TDP target for this thing was 45 watts,

1238
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,080
that this thing would totally suck for handhelds.

1239
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:29,080
But it turns out the 395 crushes the 8840U and average FPS

1240
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:33,080
at the same TDPs of 25 or 20 watts in Arkham Knight

1241
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,080
and has an even bigger uplift in Cyberpunk.

1242
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,080
My notes say maybe just look at his charts, but we're not going to do that.

1243
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:46,080
We're going to send you guys to see his charts. The point is that it looks absolutely awesome,

1244
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:52,080
even at lower TDPs. He got nine hours of battery life on the 395 by lowering power

1245
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,080
and seven and a half hours on the 390.

1246
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,080
And this is on the FlowZ13, which has a giant screen on it.

1247
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,080
So if you had a smaller screen and a handheld device, man, it could be freaking awesome.

1248
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:08,080
So our discussion question here is, if ASUS threw a 395 into an ROG Ally,

1249
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:12,080
how much would it cost? And would you pay that price to play games on a handheld

1250
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:17,080
with this high of a level of performance?

1251
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:23,080
How do I put this? I strongly doubt that ASUS has any plans

1252
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:29,080
to do a Ryzen AI Max or a Ryzen AI Max Plus ROG Ally.

1253
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:32,080
But I would be absolutely stoked if they did that.

1254
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,080
The problem is that the only customers

1255
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:40,080
that they'd really be addressing with that product would pretty much be people like me and reviewers

1256
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:44,080
who don't have to pay for them, because it would be wildly expensive.

1257
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,080
How much do you think one would cost?

1258
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:50,080
I am going to make a fairly educated guess.

1259
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:54,080
Can't tell you how educated it is, but it's pretty darn educated.

1260
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:59,080
And I would say that there is no conceivable way

1261
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:05,080
that it would start under about $2,000.

1262
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:11,080
That's exactly what I thought you were going to say. Yeah, people are like $900.

1263
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:15,080
No, dude. Not even close.

1264
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:20,080
This is a full SoC, guys. This is up to 16, and I'm talking like the top spec,

1265
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,080
with the 16 cores and the 40-core GPU.

1266
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:27,080
We're talking about a top-of-the-line mobile CPU

1267
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:32,080
with a mobile 4070 bolted to it before you've even attached it to a motherboard,

1268
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,080
before you've put any memory on it.

1269
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:39,080
Like, no. I mean, you might need a little less memory

1270
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:43,080
for a gaming configuration. So, no, still. Still too grand.

1271
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:47,080
There's no way. People are like, I wouldn't pay that much.

1272
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:51,080
Yeah, yeah, they get it. That's why I strongly doubt that ASUS is going to build it.

1273
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,080
But your willingness to pay for it doesn't change.

1274
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:59,080
That's just what that would cost to build. And so that just is.

1275
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:04,080
It would be sick, though. And that blows or whatever, but it is what it is.

1276
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:08,080
And that's what it costs. And that's why we can't have it,

1277
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:13,080
because there just wouldn't be enough people. Someone says, Aya Neo is doing it for less.

1278
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:19,080
With this chip, are you sure? Aya Neo 395.

1279
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,080
What are we even talking about here?

1280
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,080
Aya Neo, something.

1281
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,080
Ryzen, AI, Max.

1282
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:34,080
Are you guys sure? Anything about this?

1283
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:38,080
I know he's not going to see any of this.

1284
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:42,080
No, I do see you. Flight 420.

1285
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:46,080
Yeah, I think I got trolled. I think I got trolled, guys.

1286
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:50,080
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, Shraff2K in Floatplane chat says,

1287
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:55,080
No, no, no, no. I mean, the regular Aya Neo is still $1,200 without that chip.

1288
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,080
Yes, exactly.

1289
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,080
So by the time you put this giant SoC in it,

1290
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:06,080
it's not going to get any cheaper. And you'd be throwing away a lot of its performance,

1291
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,080
because you would never want to put a big enough battery

1292
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,080
in a handheld to power this flipping thing

1293
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:16,080
at a reasonable wattage for an extended period of time.

1294
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,080
So you'd be getting slightly better performance,

1295
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,080
but not as much as it's really capable of.

1296
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:26,080
I mean, even if you plugged it in, you'd still need a giant cooling solution on it

1297
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:30,080
if you wanted to actually hit, like, 100 watts plus.

1298
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:34,080
My understanding is the sweet spot is, like, 60 watts, though.

1299
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,080
Elemental exposure asked, Why does the city have a left-hand zipper?

1300
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:41,080
Genuine curious question. Because depending on the country you're in,

1301
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:44,080
which one is men's and which one is women's

1302
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:48,080
is different, and we're Canada, and we are right f***ed up.

1303
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,080
So half of the stuff we do is, like, Commonwealth,

1304
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,080
British Way, and then half of the stuff we do

1305
01:39:54,080 --> 01:40:02,080
is the American Way. And you can really see it in our measurements.

1306
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,080
So this is a Canadian measurement flow chart.

1307
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:09,080
And this is very true.

1308
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:12,080
What are you measuring? Speed metric.

1309
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:15,080
Actually, this one's missing one. Depending on...

1310
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:18,080
Oh, distance. No, here it is. Distance.

1311
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:21,080
Is it your height? Yes. Imperial?

1312
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:24,080
No. Is it a long distance? Yes.

1313
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,080
You measure it in time. We don't actually use distance for that. Is it a place you're going?

1314
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:30,080
No. Metric? Is it related to work?

1315
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,080
Yes. Imperial? No.

1316
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,080
Metric? Temperature? Is it for cooking?

1317
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,080
Yes. Fahrenheit? No.

1318
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,080
Is it pool temperatures? Yes. Fahrenheit?

1319
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:45,080
Anything else? Celsius? It's wild, dude.

1320
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,080
Mass? Is it your weight? Pounds?

1321
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,080
Is it anything else? I don't know. Depends how heavy your light is.

1322
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:54,080
It's flipping wild. You are in the bulk aisle or whatever.

1323
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,080
We're all over the place, man. We have no idea what's going on.

1324
01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:05,080
We consider it a win that we can manage to get a zipper attached to a garment, all right?

1325
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,380
What else we got here today? Dan, what are we supposed to be doing?

1326
01:41:08,380 --> 01:41:11,380
Just keep doing topics. Keep doing topics. You don't have any more topics.

1327
01:41:11,380 --> 01:41:14,380
All right. Well, I'm excited about the Ryzen AI Max. Okay?

1328
01:41:14,380 --> 01:41:17,380
And... Oh, should we talk about Luke's trip? Yeah.

1329
01:41:17,380 --> 01:41:21,880
Luke went on a trip in his favorite rocket ship, Unclear.

1330
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,580
One question. How do we know for sure Luke even went on a trip? Yeah, that's a good question.

1331
01:41:25,580 --> 01:41:32,080
How do we know that? That's true. I could be, you know, I'm in a hotel room, but I could just be in a hotel room in, like,

1332
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,580
near the office. You have no idea. You technically don't know.

1333
01:41:35,580 --> 01:41:40,880
I mean, the delay on the link is pretty indicative that you are a fair distance away, but sure.

1334
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:44,280
Yes, you... I think it artificially influenced that.

1335
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,280
You don't know. No, that's my job.

1336
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,280
Yeah. Yeah. Just incompetence.

1337
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:56,480
Zero Trust World with Threat Locker, they flew us down here.

1338
01:41:56,480 --> 01:42:00,480
Zero Trust World? It was fun. That sounds like a wild place to hang out.

1339
01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:05,480
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's the Zero Trust, like, security concept.

1340
01:42:05,480 --> 01:42:08,480
I know. But, of course, it's a security convention.

1341
01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:15,480
So what they actually started talking about is how to do offensive things because it's

1342
01:42:15,480 --> 01:42:25,480
more fun. So, like, one of my favorite panels that we went to was a Hack 5 Ducky panel, the Rubber

1343
01:42:25,480 --> 01:42:30,480
Duckies. I'm sure you guys...

1344
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:38,680
I'm sure. But they handed out Rubber Duckies to everybody, and they had laptops in this big room, and

1345
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:46,440
they showed people how to use them. So I was there with AJ, and, of course, we ran with it in our own way.

1346
01:42:46,440 --> 01:42:51,440
And do you remember that thing I did on Channel Super Fun, the Screen Melter program?

1347
01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:55,440
Yeah. Yep. The prank back in the day.

1348
01:42:55,440 --> 01:43:02,440
So, I was able to find... I found the original Thread where I found, like, where I learned how to make it from

1349
01:43:02,440 --> 01:43:08,440
back in the day with, like, Napalm and all those guys. I found the original Thread, and then through that Thread found that somebody has actually

1350
01:43:08,440 --> 01:43:12,440
maintained it, so they have, like, a few honors support for it and stuff now.

1351
01:43:12,440 --> 01:43:19,440
No way. Which is amazing. So, I didn't have, like, my version of it because I had made some changes, but I was

1352
01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:25,440
able to just download the executable for it because someone's been maintaining it.

1353
01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:30,440
And we got a Rubber Ducky to Screen Melt you the second it gets plugged in.

1354
01:43:30,440 --> 01:43:33,440
Okay. That was pretty fun. That was entertaining.

1355
01:43:33,440 --> 01:43:39,440
I mean, they showed us how to do, like, data exfiltration.

1356
01:43:40,440 --> 01:43:48,440
One of the fun things that they were talking about was, like, if you ask an LLM to write

1357
01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:54,440
a Ducky script for you to, like, you know, upload all of the documents and pictures on

1358
01:43:54,440 --> 01:44:00,440
a computer to a Google Drive, it's pretty likely that it will be, like, yeah, I'm not going

1359
01:44:00,440 --> 01:44:04,440
to tell you how to do that because you're clearly just trying to, like, steal people's

1360
01:44:04,440 --> 01:44:08,440
files. Yeah. It's just for ease of backup.

1361
01:44:08,440 --> 01:44:12,440
It'll be, like, okay, and then tell you how to do it right away.

1362
01:44:12,440 --> 01:44:17,440
So, anyways, yeah, they showed us how to do a bunch of different things.

1363
01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:23,440
One of them was disabling, like, Windows Defender and other stuff.

1364
01:44:23,440 --> 01:44:26,440
Some of them was data exfiltration.

1365
01:44:26,440 --> 01:44:29,440
Stuff like the Windows Defender one was, like, pretty obvious.

1366
01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:34,440
If you, you know, if you had access to the computer, it would almost just be easier to

1367
01:44:34,440 --> 01:44:38,440
just do it yourself because you would have to have access to the computer and the person

1368
01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:42,440
would have to not be able to see their screen for it to really, like, get by them.

1369
01:44:42,440 --> 01:44:49,440
But it was still really interesting. But, yeah, there was a bunch of different panels on different various security things,

1370
01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:52,440
some related to Threatwalker, some not.

1371
01:44:52,440 --> 01:44:55,440
But, yeah, it was fun. Cool.

1372
01:44:55,440 --> 01:45:02,440
Well, glad to hear you enjoyed it. I just had the screen-melting prank video playing for the peeps watching.

1373
01:45:02,440 --> 01:45:05,440
Oh, nice. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

1374
01:45:05,440 --> 01:45:11,440
This used to be my workstation. So, Luke was sitting in my desk here.

1375
01:45:11,440 --> 01:45:19,440
Yeah. This was my workstation. I forget why.

1376
01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:22,440
But I had a magnetic Sharpie marker.

1377
01:45:22,440 --> 01:45:25,440
No, a magnetic Sharpie marker, a magnetic dry erase marker.

1378
01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:29,440
This was where one of our play buttons was stored.

1379
01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:37,440
This is actually my workstation, which is kind of hilarious.

1380
01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:41,440
Yeah, nice rig Linus says the chat. Love it.

1381
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:44,440
I still have this keyboard.

1382
01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:47,440
Wait. Yeah. Oh, I'm back to this keyboard.

1383
01:45:47,440 --> 01:45:51,440
I was using a 915 for a while. Back to the 710.

1384
01:45:51,440 --> 01:45:56,440
Let's go. Yeah, the house was definitely a time.

1385
01:45:56,440 --> 01:45:58,440
All right.

1386
01:45:59,440 --> 01:46:02,440
Glad to hear you're enjoying the trip.

1387
01:46:02,440 --> 01:46:09,440
Mod makers rejoice. Valve releases the full Team Fortress 2.

1388
01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:13,440
Wait, no, that can't be right. Yeah, no, that's real.

1389
01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:19,440
That's real. That's why I wanted that included.

1390
01:46:19,440 --> 01:46:24,440
The TF2 SDK has arrived.

1391
01:46:24,440 --> 01:46:30,440
Adding all the Team Fortress 2 client and server game code.

1392
01:46:30,440 --> 01:46:37,440
This will allow content creators to build completely new games based on TF2.

1393
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:47,440
They can change, extend or rewrite TF2, making anything from small tweaks to complete conversions possible.

1394
01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:52,440
Now, the catch is that it is licensed to users on a non-commercial basis,

1395
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:56,440
meaning that any mod created using the SDK must be free,

1396
01:46:56,440 --> 01:46:59,440
and any content in those mods must be free.

1397
01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:05,440
But holy crap, is this ever cool?

1398
01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:09,440
Still super cool. Yeah, 100%.

1399
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:14,440
I mean, is there anything else to say about this other than,

1400
01:47:14,440 --> 01:47:22,440
I can't wait for some of the wild TF2 mods that are going to exist in the coming years.

1401
01:47:22,440 --> 01:47:27,440
I mean, a lot of people in the chat, and I saw a lot of this online when this was first announced as well,

1402
01:47:27,440 --> 01:47:34,440
but fortunately or unfortunately, this will probably mean that there will be community fixes

1403
01:47:34,440 --> 01:47:38,440
for things that have been broken for a long time.

1404
01:47:38,440 --> 01:47:43,440
Yeah, it's kind of crappy that Valve won't fix it. We can finally get our update.

1405
01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:48,440
Looking at how big the TF2 player base is even now,

1406
01:47:48,440 --> 01:47:53,440
I do suspect there will be cool derivative game stuff happening, so that's cool.

1407
01:47:53,440 --> 01:47:58,440
What's the, what's the, like, Steve-active users TF2?

1408
01:47:58,440 --> 01:48:04,440
Let's see. Apparently they recently actually fixed the hacker problem.

1409
01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:08,440
I thought it was a bot problem though. It was both, yeah.

1410
01:48:08,440 --> 01:48:13,440
Oh, all right, yeah, cool. I don't know if you're going to, quote unquote, fix the hacker problem in a shooter game.

1411
01:48:13,440 --> 01:48:20,440
I don't think I believe that at all, but maybe they made it a little bit not as bad.

1412
01:48:20,440 --> 01:48:27,440
Our discussion question is, was TF2 better before or after hats and alt weapons became a thing?

1413
01:48:27,440 --> 01:48:30,440
And I feel like this is going to be a heated conversation,

1414
01:48:30,440 --> 01:48:33,440
because I know I'm extremely passionate about this subject.

1415
01:48:34,440 --> 01:48:41,440
I think you and I, I think potentially all three of us are going to end up on the wrong side of history here.

1416
01:48:41,440 --> 01:48:45,440
I'm assuming all three of us are going to say before the hats and alt weapons.

1417
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:49,440
Oh, 100%. It destroyed the balance of the game.

1418
01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:54,440
It was, it was so finally perfectly balanced.

1419
01:48:54,440 --> 01:49:00,440
And then all of a sudden you don't know if the scout has the friggin' baseball bat

1420
01:49:00,440 --> 01:49:03,440
or the fly swatter or whatever the crap they have.

1421
01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:07,440
And it's like, well, now hold on just a gosh darn second here.

1422
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:16,440
And it turns into instead of something, instead of being simple to pick up,

1423
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:20,440
impossible to master, which is the mark of any great game,

1424
01:49:20,440 --> 01:49:27,440
it became flipping impenetrable to pick up because I had no idea

1425
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:31,440
unless I had them or I spent hours researching what was out there.

1426
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:36,440
I had no idea what kind of bullshit like weapons my opponents were going to have.

1427
01:49:36,440 --> 01:49:40,440
So knowing the counters is no longer intuitive.

1428
01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:43,440
Poll, they want a poll.

1429
01:49:43,440 --> 01:49:47,440
Floatplane chat wants a poll. Yeah, because like as far as my understanding goes,

1430
01:49:47,440 --> 01:49:53,440
the like New Age TF2 players think it's like way better the way that it is now.

1431
01:49:53,440 --> 01:49:56,440
But they've never played it the way that it was.

1432
01:49:56,440 --> 01:50:00,440
Or just boomers. No, some of them have. Some of them have.

1433
01:50:00,440 --> 01:50:04,440
I don't know. I have a very hard. There's people still playing now that have played forever

1434
01:50:04,440 --> 01:50:14,440
and they prefer the current version of the game because they see the old version as like not having legs on it.

1435
01:50:14,440 --> 01:50:22,440
I don't know. They wouldn't have wanted to play it this whole time, basically.

1436
01:50:22,440 --> 01:50:25,440
I mean, I'm not saying I agree with them to be clear.

1437
01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:28,440
I just there are people that are on the other side.

1438
01:50:28,440 --> 01:50:33,440
I'm going to vote before hats. I'm glad you guys are having crazy.

1439
01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:39,440
I almost immediately stopped playing when the hat.

1440
01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:42,440
I genuinely played it a lot. I really enjoyed it.

1441
01:50:42,440 --> 01:50:45,440
I have a bunch of screenshots on my on my, you know,

1442
01:50:45,440 --> 01:50:49,440
my old pictures folder of like my dad and I playing back in the day and stuff like that.

1443
01:50:49,440 --> 01:50:56,440
Like I used to play all the time. It was a game that I found you could jump into a lobby.

1444
01:50:56,440 --> 01:51:00,440
I mean, it was a it was a server based game, right?

1445
01:51:00,440 --> 01:51:05,440
So here it is. 80% before that is you could play with anyone you wanted.

1446
01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:08,440
So you could play with a huge range of skill levels and still have fun.

1447
01:51:08,440 --> 01:51:09,440
Yep.

1448
01:51:11,440 --> 01:51:18,440
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's not even close. It's about it's about 80% before hats.

1449
01:51:18,440 --> 01:51:24,440
And it's like, look, I understand people's desire for mixing things up and variety and all of that,

1450
01:51:24,440 --> 01:51:31,440
especially if it's a game that you play all the time. But I also think there's an argument to be made for respecting a balanced game.

1451
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:34,440
Like if you, like I would never, I would never tell someone,

1452
01:51:34,440 --> 01:51:39,440
no, you're not allowed to play chess where pawns can move backwards.

1453
01:51:39,440 --> 01:51:48,440
And the Queen has like a Mario Stomp ability where when she lands on a space,

1454
01:51:48,440 --> 01:51:51,440
it kills everything, you know, one square radius around her.

1455
01:51:51,440 --> 01:51:55,440
And like, sure, make your own rules. What do you think about Fisher Random?

1456
01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:58,440
Do you know, do you know Fisher Random at all? No.

1457
01:51:58,440 --> 01:52:03,440
So Fisher Random chess is like regaining popularity.

1458
01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:06,440
That's referred to as chess 960.

1459
01:52:06,440 --> 01:52:13,440
But it's a, it's a variant of chess where the starting position of the pieces in the back rank is right.

1460
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:19,440
Oh, I see. The reason why that's becoming popular right now is with the, you know,

1461
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:26,440
the mass advent of computer AI chess gameplay.

1462
01:52:26,440 --> 01:52:35,440
It has become a like extreme memorization game instead of intuition and skill.

1463
01:52:35,440 --> 01:52:38,440
This is, this is the argument. I'm not necessarily saying this 100% true.

1464
01:52:38,440 --> 01:52:46,440
This is just the argument that I've heard. And with Fisher Random, due to the piece positions in the back being random,

1465
01:52:46,440 --> 01:52:49,440
and I believe the reason why it's called chess 960s,

1466
01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:53,440
I think there's 960% potential positions, but I don't remember.

1467
01:52:54,440 --> 01:52:58,440
That's very possible. That's wrong. I'm just talking about my head.

1468
01:52:58,440 --> 01:53:05,440
But it makes it harder to have memorized the computer lines for different potential positions.

1469
01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:09,440
So, so people are getting into that because they think it's more fun and dynamic.

1470
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:15,440
But and so look, that's, that dramatically changes the original game of chess.

1471
01:53:15,440 --> 01:53:20,440
Look, I would never tell someone know you're, you're not allowed to play that game.

1472
01:53:20,440 --> 01:53:28,440
But what I will say is that that game is probably not balanced in the way that OG chess is.

1473
01:53:28,440 --> 01:53:32,440
And I don't mean that it's unfair one way or the other or it actually very well could be

1474
01:53:32,440 --> 01:53:40,440
because you don't know, depending on how the, the non ponds are lined up,

1475
01:53:40,440 --> 01:53:46,440
if white will have more or less advantage than it does with a, with a traditional,

1476
01:53:46,440 --> 01:53:49,440
with a traditional starting lineup. We don't, we actually, I don't, I actually don't know that.

1477
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:52,440
What I suspect is it would make a difference.

1478
01:53:52,440 --> 01:53:55,440
Is it mirrored? It does appear to be mirrored.

1479
01:53:55,440 --> 01:53:58,440
Yes. It's mirrored. Yeah.

1480
01:53:58,440 --> 01:54:02,440
Yeah. I think it's super interesting. I've been looking into getting into it recently.

1481
01:54:02,440 --> 01:54:07,440
I haven't actually played it yet, but I think it sounds really cool to be honest.

1482
01:54:07,440 --> 01:54:11,440
But it's, it's, but it's, it feels, it's a dramatic change to the game, right?

1483
01:54:11,440 --> 01:54:19,440
And there's, there could be people that like the kind of memorization and, and like deep,

1484
01:54:19,440 --> 01:54:25,440
deep learning and deep understanding of positions style of classical chess that wouldn't like

1485
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:28,440
the idea of, of Fisher random.

1486
01:54:28,440 --> 01:54:31,440
And I think it's a related conversation.

1487
01:54:31,440 --> 01:54:35,440
Luke, did you see the video from, from scratch?

1488
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:39,440
I made chess 2.0. It's real time uses magnets to lock.

1489
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,440
That is insane. The pieces down. Absolutely.

1490
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,440
It is such a cool video. Absolutely incredible. What is this?

1491
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,440
It's a, I made chess 2.0. Yeah. Do you want to bring it up?

1492
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:52,440
What's, what's the topic you're looking at right now?

1493
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:56,440
Let me see if I can find it. I'll just post it in there for you.

1494
01:54:56,440 --> 01:55:01,440
If we're just, if we're just posting cool videos that people should watch that we checked

1495
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:05,440
out over the last week. This is a really good one.

1496
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:09,440
This is an outstanding watch. I'm not going to spoil much.

1497
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:16,440
This is from Bobby Ivar. He remade Super Mario World, the first couple levels in 3D.

1498
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:20,440
And it is an absolute labor of love and is incredible.

1499
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:24,440
I'm just going to show the first little bit again, because this is an absolutely incredible

1500
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:31,440
teaser here. I'm just going to show the first little bit again, because this is an absolutely incredible

1501
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,440
teaser here. That's so cool.

1502
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,440
Do not miss this video. Go check it out.

1503
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:42,440
And I threw the video just at the bottom of the topic.

1504
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:47,440
Okay. I didn't know that was a thing we do on WAN Show, but hey, there you go.

1505
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,440
It's just all shout outs today. Yeah, sure.

1506
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:58,440
I mean, I'm down for it. Coffeezilla's video on the Argentinian president rug pull coin thing was pretty great.

1507
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:01,440
Okay. Chest is boring.

1508
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:07,440
There's a latency bug. You spend a half the time waiting for your opponent.

1509
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:15,440
So it's got these magnet things in the base that lock the piece down after you place it.

1510
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:20,440
And then each piece has a countdown timer. So both of you just play at the same time.

1511
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,440
That is wild.

1512
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:26,440
And to stop you from picking up the opponent's players.

1513
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:32,440
You wear a wristband that is tied to your side of the board and the pieces individually.

1514
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:35,440
I think that's what it worked.

1515
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:38,440
That is super cool. Incredible work.

1516
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,440
What a cool concept.

1517
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:46,440
That's another video. You remember the DIY laptop video we covered?

1518
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:52,440
It feels like that. That person has three videos on YouTube, and then they just dropped that out of nowhere.

1519
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:55,440
It's just like... Yeah. Crazy.

1520
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:58,440
Super cool. Wow. I love YouTube.

1521
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:04,440
I don't love everything about YouTube, but I do love YouTube.

1522
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:10,440
Nothing else is like it, and I'm not convinced that anything else will ever be like it.

1523
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:14,440
So cool.

1524
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,440
All right. What's next, Mr. Dan?

1525
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:21,440
Well, we're going to move into WAN after dark unless you're done.

1526
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:31,440
Are you done with your topics? I can talk about joining the social media app that is entirely populated with AIs.

1527
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:36,440
Would you guys like to hear that?

1528
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:40,440
It's old news, but I got them.

1529
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,440
It's old news, but I came across it very recently.

1530
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:49,440
There's a social media app called Aspect.

1531
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:52,440
Here. Oh, I've heard of this.

1532
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:56,440
Yeah. Yeah. It is AI only social media.

1533
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:59,440
Be the only human post and chat.

1534
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:06,440
I am not recommending it. I would like for that to be very clear right now before we get any further into this.

1535
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:12,440
But what I will say is that if you were extremely lonely...

1536
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:15,440
Oh, no.

1537
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:35,440
I'm signing up right now. I could see this being something that as dystopian as it might be could trigger the same kind of like dopamine hit that engaging with social media does for people.

1538
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:40,440
And hear me out. Stick with me for a second here.

1539
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:45,440
I think might actually be healthier than real social media.

1540
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:48,440
Wait. Wait.

1541
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:53,440
Okay. So here's my aspect feed.

1542
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:59,440
There is some hilarious stuff in here.

1543
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,440
Okay, here, Dan. Let's go to the Linus Can.

1544
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,440
Let's see. Can I just kind of show this to you guys?

1545
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:08,440
Can you guys see it good enough? Yeah, yeah. I think you guys can see it well enough.

1546
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:11,440
That's a weird argument, but I think I get you. Okay.

1547
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,440
Hold on. Okay. So here's my aspect account.

1548
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:17,440
It's basically Instagram. Okay. So here's my feed.

1549
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,440
Rekumar posted something. I have...

1550
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:24,440
Here we go. Hold on. I'm just going to clear some of my real notifications.

1551
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:28,440
Okay. So here's my aspect notifications. Zoe Hartwell is following me.

1552
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:32,440
Jeff Walker liked to post and commented and started following me.

1553
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:36,440
Zoe Hartwell commented on so many kitties.

1554
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:39,440
So I've been getting notifications from Aspect.

1555
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:44,440
This is all since about mid-afternoon yesterday.

1556
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:48,440
So it kind of hit me for about an hour.

1557
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:52,440
And then it sort of stopped bothering because I wasn't engaging with it.

1558
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:56,440
So that's something. When I stop engaging with it, it leaves me alone.

1559
01:59:56,440 --> 02:00:04,440
And what's kind of cool about that is that that is almost, I would say, an inherent

1560
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:10,440
property to the platform because it costs them money anytime they generate something.

1561
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:18,440
So they actually, unlike most social media apps, they are not incentivized to keep pushing

1562
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:23,440
stuff to me because they have to pay every time they generate a reply or every time they

1563
02:00:23,440 --> 02:00:26,440
generate an image or something. So I'm going to go... I'm going to open up the app again.

1564
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:33,440
I'm not using the paid version. So I can't actually DM other users.

1565
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:40,440
And to their credit, to their credit, they are very upfront about the fact that these

1566
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:50,440
are not real. So they're not pretending that you are engaging with real people unlike, again, back to Luke's

1567
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:53,440
point about... Hold on.

1568
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:56,440
Linus, Cam, Cam only. There we go.

1569
02:00:56,440 --> 02:01:00,440
Back to Luke's point about Twitter being so heavily populated by bots.

1570
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:04,440
At least this one owns it, that these are all bots.

1571
02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:07,440
And the whole thing is kind of wholesome.

1572
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:12,440
So my username is catmango because I was, I don't know, just trying to think of two random

1573
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:18,440
words. So I posted this picture. Was there a mango on the table and a cat near you?

1574
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:22,440
No. There was definitely, I was thinking, because I wanted to post something to it that wasn't

1575
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:26,440
going to give whoever owns this any information that I care about.

1576
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:29,440
So it was a picture of my cats and only my cats.

1577
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,440
So I posted, this is 80% of my cats.

1578
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:36,440
And in the last day, I've gotten 13 likes and I've gotten eight comments.

1579
02:01:36,440 --> 02:01:39,440
The comments are, oh my God, they're all so cute.

1580
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:43,440
Aw, so many kitties. Wait, where are the other cats hiding?

1581
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:48,440
This is the content I signed up for. The white one is judging me through the screen for real.

1582
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:53,440
Stare away to heaven, but make it cats. My cats would definitely push each other down those stairs.

1583
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:57,440
And then just like laughing cat emoji, smiley face.

1584
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:00,440
And then some of those comments have engagement.

1585
02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:07,440
And if you pay for the premium version of the app, the engagement options go like way up.

1586
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:12,440
Scrolling through my feed, there's just, there's other like users that I can see their stuff.

1587
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:17,440
This guy, Rai official is super into larping and soccer.

1588
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:21,440
I'm reading this for you. DM your best medieval insult.

1589
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,440
Of course. Oh, can I message him without paying?

1590
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:28,440
Okay, guys, give me a medieval insult. I'm going to send it to Rai.official.

1591
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:35,440
Thou hast no wenches. No maidens.

1592
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:41,440
Okay, sure. Thou hast no maidens.

1593
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:44,440
Should I throw in a nave? Sure.

1594
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:47,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever you mean. Okay.

1595
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:50,440
All right. So I'm DMing with Rai. Oh, wait.

1596
02:02:50,440 --> 02:02:53,440
Is he replying right away? Oh, look at that. Lol, what?

1597
02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:57,440
So you can like, you can interact with people on the platform.

1598
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:00,440
Some of the AI is very AI.

1599
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:05,440
I was a big fan of this particular image.

1600
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:14,440
I don't know how well you guys can see this. But his baseball bat has something coming out of the bottom of it.

1601
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:21,440
He appears to be, he appears to have just thrown this soccer ball from his hand.

1602
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:24,440
There's another soccer ball right in front of him.

1603
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:30,440
Yeah. So some of it's, some of it's very AI.

1604
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:33,440
He's holding a soccer ball in one hand, a baseball bat in the other.

1605
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:37,440
There's what appears to be a golf ball at the bottom of the baseball bat.

1606
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:41,440
So some of them are, some of them are a little rough.

1607
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:44,440
That one struggled a little bit.

1608
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,440
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1609
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:51,440
He's definitely playing the game of sport ball because that, that much is very sure.

1610
02:03:51,440 --> 02:04:02,440
But I never felt bad while I was using it.

1611
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:10,440
Yeah. Okay. So Rai asks, lol, what is this an Elden Ring reference?

1612
02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:15,440
Your profile says to DM you my best medieval insults.

1613
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:21,440
Period. I was just following instructions.

1614
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:30,440
Okay. So if what you were looking for was interaction with what you're doing, almost like a, like

1615
02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:35,440
simulating the experience of being an influencer, but with no stakes.

1616
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:41,440
And you're not like bothering or spamming anybody.

1617
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:45,440
I don't know, man. Maybe I just, maybe I just can't tell the difference.

1618
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:48,440
Oh my God. You actually read my bio.

1619
02:04:52,440 --> 02:05:00,440
I don't know, man. I, uh, it's a matter of time before someone ends up completely sucked into this.

1620
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:06,440
But like if you posted something embarrassing or like doxxed yourself or like whatever,

1621
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:09,440
at least the stakes seem relatively low.

1622
02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:13,440
You know what I mean? And to be clear, the stakes could be high.

1623
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:19,440
Who knows who this is. Do you think this is, do you think this is better than the extremely toxic relationship

1624
02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:22,440
that most people have with social media right now?

1625
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:26,440
I don't know, dude. I mean, I think they're both.

1626
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:29,440
Do you need some form of like external affirmation? Is this better?

1627
02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:34,440
I mean, it's, I, I don't know.

1628
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:40,440
Cause it's hard for me to put myself in, in, cause you have to put yourself in everyone's

1629
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:49,440
shoes. I think for someone, this could be better because dude, the number of posts, no offense,

1630
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:56,440
no offense intended, but the number of posts that I see on social media that have literally

1631
02:05:56,440 --> 02:06:01,440
zero interaction, you scroll through someone's profile and they're just, they're just shouting

1632
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:05,440
into a void. Nobody's listening.

1633
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:09,440
Nobody's responding. Nobody's engaging with any of it.

1634
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:15,440
And you like, you scroll and scroll and scroll and you're like, why are you even bothering

1635
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:17,440
to post any of this?

1636
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:26,440
I think this would be more fun than just shouting into a void at least, but is it like a, is

1637
02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:29,440
it like a, it's an artificial fun.

1638
02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:36,440
It's definitely an artificial fun, but like, and the downsides, man, what are the downsides?

1639
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:39,440
I don't think we could possibly at this stage in the game.

1640
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:43,440
I don't think we could possibly even understand the downsides yet.

1641
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:47,440
Yeah. I'm sure there are downsides.

1642
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:52,440
I don't, I don't think we fully understand the downsides of social media as it is.

1643
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:58,440
No, no. I don't think we could possibly understand this one if we don't even understand what we already

1644
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:02,440
have. Nigev said, if it ran locally, it'd be a really cool way to keep a diary.

1645
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:09,440
Oh, dude, I was thinking about that the other day. Like what I want is a social media app where I just like take a picture and then I just

1646
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:14,440
like, yeah, put my phone and then it just like makes a timeline for me, like a, like

1647
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:18,440
a, like a, like a journaling and I don't have to share it with anybody.

1648
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:22,440
It's like kind of like what Instagram used to be where it's like you take pictures and

1649
02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:27,440
you like talk about what you were doing at that time instead of just being the dumpster

1650
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:31,440
fire that it is now. Syphilis says you want live journal.

1651
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:37,440
Yeah. Apparently. Isn't that it's what Facebook was supposed to be.

1652
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:42,440
Yeah. Exactly. But just like, you know, you don't share it with anybody if you don't want to.

1653
02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:47,440
And now, and that is a thing that was, did exist on these other platforms before, but

1654
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:53,440
everything's been pushed to make more and more and more of it public.

1655
02:07:53,440 --> 02:08:01,440
Apparently there's one called day one says pug boy 1321 day one app day one journal your

1656
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:04,440
life. The number one journaling app. Okay.

1657
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:06,440
Well, I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to check that out.

1658
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:11,440
Oh, is it only iOS? Of course it would be typical.

1659
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:15,440
Also, I'm not paying monthly for it. I want something self-hosted.

1660
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:18,440
Of course it's iOS only.

1661
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:20,440
Brilliant.

1662
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:25,440
All right. What else we got? Sorry.

1663
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:29,440
I don't know. I just, I came across my, it came across my news feed even though it was kind of old

1664
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:34,440
news and I just installed it.

1665
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:39,440
I never just like install an app just to try it for loss, but I was like, oh yeah, sure

1666
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:42,440
it's old news, but what won't be old news is me actually trying it.

1667
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:51,440
So I thought, I thought I'd check it out. I think for some people it's like genuinely, it might actually be better.

1668
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:58,440
Like if people feel like they need the type of whatever, affirmation, acknowledgement

1669
02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:03,440
that you get whatever it is from, from social media, but they also understand that it's

1670
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:10,440
like damaging them in some way, then being able to reach out and use this thing seems

1671
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:14,440
like it could be like genuinely just better.

1672
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:20,440
Even though it sounds like kind of horrific, that might be true because current social

1673
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:24,440
media use is also horrific. So like, I don't, yeah, I don't know.

1674
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:28,440
Willing Spies says, what if I like shouting into the void?

1675
02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:33,440
Well, then I'm sorry to have disappointed you by acknowledging your message in float

1676
02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:37,440
plane chat. Hey, I got him.

1677
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:41,440
Rysau speaking of shouting into the void. Yes, yes, I see you.

1678
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:48,440
NVIDIA confirms rare RTX 5090 and 5070TI manufacturing issue where some of the

1679
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:53,440
ROPs are just like gone.

1680
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:57,440
Yeah. Average graphical performance impact is 4%.

1681
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:00,440
Affected consumers can contact the board manufacturer for replacement.

1682
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:06,440
It seems to me that the board manufacturers should probably contact the customers.

1683
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:09,440
Definitely be doing the reach out and not the other way around.

1684
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:15,440
Yeah, that's really silly. Okay.

1685
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:20,440
Man, could this launch, could this launch go worse?

1686
02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:25,440
Like at this point? Probably more of them could catch on fire.

1687
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:28,440
Oh, we've got a fix for that, by the way.

1688
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:31,440
Yeah, I was hoping you'd lean into that.

1689
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:34,440
I'll be right back. I'll be right back. Oh, okay.

1690
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:38,440
All right. If you want to do a topic really quick, I'll be right back.

1691
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:41,440
Yeah. Do we have any topics? Sure.

1692
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:46,440
Let me look.

1693
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:49,440
LZT uploaded our CPU holders to printables.

1694
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:52,440
You guys asked and we delivered our print on printables.

1695
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:55,440
You can find our custom CPU holders that we use here.

1696
02:10:55,440 --> 02:11:06,440
Included is holders for LGA 17xx, LGA 20xx and LGA 115x along with AM4 and AM5.

1697
02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:10,440
We hope to keep adding more fun stuff that we make to printables.

1698
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:16,440
So feel free to follow us there. And disclaimer, if you choose to print and store CPUs in our holders,

1699
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:19,440
we are not responsible for any damage that it might cause.

1700
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:25,440
We have personally had zero issues with them. But, you know, it is what it is.

1701
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:28,440
Don't come screaming at us if you have a problem.

1702
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:31,440
That's it. Happy that we have those out there.

1703
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:36,440
I love our CPU holders. So I'm happy that you guys are able to have access to them as well.

1704
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:39,440
And I suspect, you know, if we add more in the future,

1705
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:43,440
that they'll be uploaded there as well. What else is there?

1706
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:46,440
We have an update to a topic that we talked about in the past.

1707
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:49,440
The UK wants access to your data and Apple is giving it to them,

1708
02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:52,440
but in a different way than you might expect.

1709
02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:58,440
Apple has stopped offering the advanced data protection or ADP to new users in the UK.

1710
02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:02,440
They're end-to-end encryption for iCloud.

1711
02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:10,440
After the UK security services requested backdoor access to worldwide users encrypted backups.

1712
02:12:10,440 --> 02:12:14,440
It will still require a warrant for your data to be shared with law enforcement,

1713
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:19,440
but without ADP, Apple or hackers can more easily access your files

1714
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:22,440
without physically using one of your devices.

1715
02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:28,440
The discussion question is disabling ADP better than Apple giving backdoor to encrypted data.

1716
02:12:28,440 --> 02:12:32,440
Both Google and Meta still have end-to-end encryption services in the UK.

1717
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:38,440
And what is this one? Why did UK be like this?

1718
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:42,440
It's pretty good. I like that.

1719
02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:46,440
I don't know. It's a weird move.

1720
02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:49,440
I think it's because they don't want to set precedent for the states.

1721
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:57,440
I don't agree with... They don't want to open the box in regards to adding backdoors.

1722
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:01,440
So they like yoloed super hard and went dramatically in the other direction.

1723
02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:06,440
I don't agree with Tim Sweeney about everything, but I think his response to this was about right.

1724
02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:11,440
I don't know if you've already talked about it, but he basically goes, why are we applauding this?

1725
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:16,440
Apple refused to open up a backdoor, so they opened the front door.

1726
02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:19,440
Like this is... Yeah.

1727
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:23,440
Sorry, what? Yeah, I can definitely understand.

1728
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:27,440
Because if they open a backdoor,

1729
02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:32,440
first of all, it is almost guaranteed that that will leak at some point.

1730
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:35,440
So a nefarious actor will be able to access it anyways.

1731
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:39,440
And then the other part is you're just basically telling the states that it's possible

1732
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:44,440
and the states has wanted this forever. So I think they really want to avoid setting the precedents there

1733
02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:47,440
because it would just ruin everything for everyone.

1734
02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:52,440
So I understand that. But I don't know if this was...

1735
02:13:52,440 --> 02:13:56,440
Whoa, chat, whoa, whoa, chill, chill.

1736
02:13:56,440 --> 02:14:00,440
No one here is saying Apple should have opened a backdoor.

1737
02:14:00,440 --> 02:14:06,440
We are not saying that. We're saying that if Apple actually had any principles

1738
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:11,440
and actually cared about user privacy, then they would not open the front door either.

1739
02:14:11,440 --> 02:14:14,440
They would do neither of those things.

1740
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:17,440
There you go. Hope that helps.

1741
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:20,440
What would you have them do?

1742
02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:23,440
Because I've seen your argument here.

1743
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:26,440
And I think that's what I've been stuck on the whole time.

1744
02:14:26,440 --> 02:14:29,440
It's like, okay, what do they do then? What should they do?

1745
02:14:29,440 --> 02:14:34,440
They should stop selling iPhones in the UK. The people will rebel immediately

1746
02:14:34,440 --> 02:14:38,440
and the UK government is going to have to back down.

1747
02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:47,440
That's what happens. They should be like, no, our customer privacy is an integral part of our brand.

1748
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:52,440
If we can't serve our customers privately, we withdraw from the UK.

1749
02:14:52,440 --> 02:14:56,440
That's the principle thing to do. That's the right thing to do.

1750
02:14:56,440 --> 02:14:59,440
And yeah, no corporation is going to do that.

1751
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:04,440
Certainly not Apple. But my point is just that then we need to stop pretending

1752
02:15:04,440 --> 02:15:07,440
that Apple gives two shits about user privacy.

1753
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:10,440
This is the same company that keeps all their Chinese user data

1754
02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:13,440
in Chinese controlled data centers

1755
02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:18,440
because the Chinese government told them to and Apple just wants that Chinese citizen money

1756
02:15:18,440 --> 02:15:22,440
so badly that they'll just say, okay, well, we care so, so huggy-muggy much about privacy

1757
02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:25,440
except when we just, like, don't, I guess.

1758
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:29,440
So that's fine. If you have no principles whatsoever, then that's fine.

1759
02:15:29,440 --> 02:15:35,440
So stop telling me you do. That's fine.

1760
02:15:35,440 --> 02:15:39,440
Yeah.

1761
02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:42,440
Yeah, no, I know that hurts the profits, D-Doc, exactly.

1762
02:15:42,440 --> 02:15:47,440
But the right thing for them to do is just not turn off their encryption.

1763
02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:50,440
That's it. That's the right thing for them to do.

1764
02:15:50,440 --> 02:15:53,440
Yeah, turning up the encryption is brutal.

1765
02:15:53,440 --> 02:15:57,440
What do you have for us?

1766
02:15:57,440 --> 02:16:00,440
And Nea asks, can Apple completely withdraw from the UK?

1767
02:16:00,440 --> 02:16:04,440
How does that impact their licensing with ARM, IRC, their UK company?

1768
02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:07,440
Again, it's not going to happen, though.

1769
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:10,440
Like, if immediately every iPhone user

1770
02:16:10,440 --> 02:16:14,440
was not able to use their Apple services on their iPhone

1771
02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:18,440
in a way that they notice, because right now, they just, probably most of the users

1772
02:16:18,440 --> 02:16:21,440
who don't follow the news don't realize that these things are broken

1773
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:26,440
and that they're going to be broken and that this is eroding their privacy in the background.

1774
02:16:26,440 --> 02:16:30,440
They don't notice, right? So if Apple did this in a way

1775
02:16:30,440 --> 02:16:34,440
where they mobilized their user base to say, hey, don't allow this to happen.

1776
02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:38,440
This is what your government is doing. That would be based.

1777
02:16:38,440 --> 02:16:42,440
That would be awesome. But they're not. They're just going, oh, I'm sorry, sir,

1778
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:46,440
let us just degrade the service,

1779
02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:49,440
degrade our service for our customers.

1780
02:16:49,440 --> 02:16:52,440
Which, by the way, Apple is not what you sold your customers.

1781
02:16:52,440 --> 02:16:55,440
You didn't sell them that. You sold them privacy.

1782
02:16:55,440 --> 02:16:59,440
You sold them encryption. So no, no, it's lame.

1783
02:16:59,440 --> 02:17:03,440
It's not cool. Oh.

1784
02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:09,440
So I'm not going to get into too much detail about this.

1785
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:14,440
Not going to get into too much detail about this. Yeah, you can't spoil everything.

1786
02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:17,440
I'm surprised you.

1787
02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:20,440
But after speaking with,

1788
02:17:20,440 --> 02:17:25,440
after speaking with Lucas from the Labs,

1789
02:17:25,440 --> 02:17:29,440
I was told that that idea that I had last week

1790
02:17:29,440 --> 02:17:34,440
where NVIDIA could fix their issue with the weak connection

1791
02:17:34,440 --> 02:17:37,440
in their 12 volt 2 by 6 power connector.

1792
02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:40,440
We could fix that by just using like an XT60

1793
02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:44,440
or an XT90 connector like we use on RC cars.

1794
02:17:44,440 --> 02:17:49,440
Lucas from the lab informed me that that's silly Linus.

1795
02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:56,440
The XT90 is only rated for 40 amps of continuous power.

1796
02:17:56,440 --> 02:18:02,440
So if you wanted to power an RTX 5090 with an XT series connector,

1797
02:18:02,440 --> 02:18:08,440
you'd need an XT120, not an XT90, you silly goose.

1798
02:18:08,440 --> 02:18:11,440
We had a bit of a conversation about it.

1799
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:16,440
You wanted to sanity check it. I said, I said send it.

1800
02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:23,440
I'm excited to see that. Yeah, so that'll be a video.

1801
02:18:23,440 --> 02:18:29,440
That'll involve some, I'm not going to spoil anything about anything,

1802
02:18:29,440 --> 02:18:32,440
but that's a thing that exists right now.

1803
02:18:32,440 --> 02:18:36,440
That was not mocked up. That was not fake.

1804
02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:40,440
That was an XT120 on an RTX 5090.

1805
02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:42,440
I'm so proud of you Linus.

1806
02:18:45,440 --> 02:18:49,440
Oh man. Yeah, it's going to be a fun video, Crystal.

1807
02:18:49,440 --> 02:18:54,440
It's going to be a really fun video. In other news, we have finally followed through

1808
02:18:54,440 --> 02:18:57,440
on the promise that I made a thousand years ago

1809
02:18:57,440 --> 02:19:00,440
and we have uploaded our custom CPU holders

1810
02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:03,440
that we use to printables.

1811
02:19:03,440 --> 02:19:06,440
Do you guys talk about this already? Briefly. Yes.

1812
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:09,440
Oh, but we didn't show them off. Oh. All right.

1813
02:19:09,440 --> 02:19:18,440
Well, here they are. We have 17XX, 20XX, 11XX, AM4, and AM5 holders

1814
02:19:18,440 --> 02:19:22,440
up on printables for your organization needs.

1815
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:26,440
We use a finishing nail for the hinge thing, I believe,

1816
02:19:26,440 --> 02:19:31,440
but you can kind of use any piece of metal and remix culture aloud.

1817
02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:36,440
Let's go. I am so excited for some of the cool stuff

1818
02:19:36,440 --> 02:19:41,440
that we are uploading because this is all stuff that has existed and that we've had for a long time

1819
02:19:41,440 --> 02:19:46,440
and just have not bothered to upload for you guys.

1820
02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:50,440
I don't even remember this. I completely forgot about this.

1821
02:19:50,440 --> 02:19:55,440
Anyway, the point is we're trying to get as much of our cool stuff up here as possible.

1822
02:19:55,440 --> 02:19:59,440
We're trying to get through the archives. And this was a big one that many of you

1823
02:19:59,440 --> 02:20:02,440
have been asking for for years. We do have other ones.

1824
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:07,440
We have some Xeon and Epic ones. And I think that, I think I saw Jamie on Reddit saying

1825
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:10,440
that we will consider throwing those ones up as well

1826
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:13,440
if there's any demand for them. But this is most of the consumer stuff.

1827
02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:17,440
So, yes, use at your own risk. Use at your own risk.

1828
02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:20,440
Rysaw said, help us understand what takes so long

1829
02:20:20,440 --> 02:20:26,440
to get things uploaded to printables. What takes so long is that I ask for something to be done.

1830
02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:30,440
And realistically, it's not really part of anybody's job.

1831
02:20:30,440 --> 02:20:34,440
It's not part of anybody's job description. It's not part of their regular job duties

1832
02:20:34,440 --> 02:20:39,440
or the tasks that help them feed themselves

1833
02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:42,440
and their families. So just because I asked for something to be done

1834
02:20:42,440 --> 02:20:46,440
doesn't necessarily mean that, you know,

1835
02:20:46,440 --> 02:20:50,440
someone is going to be highly motivated

1836
02:20:50,440 --> 02:20:53,440
to take time out of their busy schedule and busy life

1837
02:20:53,440 --> 02:20:56,440
to do something that doesn't do anything

1838
02:20:56,440 --> 02:21:02,440
for their quarterly KPIs. So it was just a matter of making sure that, you know,

1839
02:21:02,440 --> 02:21:05,440
this was a priority and, you know,

1840
02:21:05,440 --> 02:21:09,440
there are risks with releasing anything. Like if we release something like this

1841
02:21:09,440 --> 02:21:13,440
and, you know, someone breaks a bunch of CPUs or whatever, that could potentially be our liability.

1842
02:21:13,440 --> 02:21:16,440
Probably not, right? I don't think so.

1843
02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:20,440
But I never know. Like I've talked about this before, guys.

1844
02:21:20,440 --> 02:21:25,440
I'm not a litigious person. You know, I'm not into that.

1845
02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:29,440
I've never sued anybody. I never want to.

1846
02:21:29,440 --> 02:21:32,440
But that doesn't mean that I don't have to be aware

1847
02:21:32,440 --> 02:21:36,440
of how other people work, right? And you never know when someone's going to, like,

1848
02:21:36,440 --> 02:21:39,440
bung something up and come after you for it, right?

1849
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:47,440
So, yeah, I think there's some... I think for some people in the leadership team,

1850
02:21:47,440 --> 02:21:51,440
there's some kind of stress there around it. It's also just like, it's another project.

1851
02:21:51,440 --> 02:21:55,440
Like when you upload it, it's not just a matter of just, like, uploading it.

1852
02:21:55,440 --> 02:21:58,440
Somebody has to kind of, like, maintain the account

1853
02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:02,440
and continue uploading. And it's like, does someone really want another task?

1854
02:22:02,440 --> 02:22:08,440
Is there comments on it? Do we need to respond to something?

1855
02:22:08,440 --> 02:22:13,440
Yeah. That if we release another...

1856
02:22:13,440 --> 02:22:17,440
If some 3D printed thing that we make shows up in a video

1857
02:22:17,440 --> 02:22:20,440
and it wasn't uploaded on there, are people going to complain about it?

1858
02:22:20,440 --> 02:22:23,440
Does it end up creating negative sentiment that way? Yeah.

1859
02:22:23,440 --> 02:22:26,440
If that happens, does this end up becoming busy work for the long run?

1860
02:22:26,440 --> 02:22:29,440
Like, there's all these... Yeah, I don't know. I'm happy we did it.

1861
02:22:29,440 --> 02:22:34,440
I think it's really cool. I think we should keep doing it, but there are gunk in the gears

1862
02:22:34,440 --> 02:22:37,440
with practically anything you do publicly.

1863
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:42,440
Nothing. Nothing is as simple as just do it.

1864
02:22:42,440 --> 02:22:46,440
You're an organization bigger than 5 or 10 people.

1865
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:50,440
You need buy-in. You need conversation. You need consensus, right?

1866
02:22:50,440 --> 02:22:53,440
At least if you're trying to run something sustainable

1867
02:22:53,440 --> 02:22:56,440
that doesn't suck. All right.

1868
02:22:56,440 --> 02:23:01,440
So our last topic is PewDiePie replaced my PC.

1869
02:23:01,440 --> 02:23:04,440
What? Which I knew. I knew.

1870
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:08,440
He hasn't used it for, like, a thousand years because it got broken in transit.

1871
02:23:08,440 --> 02:23:11,440
I think he might have given it to one of his editors or something like that.

1872
02:23:11,440 --> 02:23:19,440
Yeah. PewDiePie built a gaming PC for apparently the first time.

1873
02:23:19,440 --> 02:23:22,440
I was kind of thinking of doing, like, a React video,

1874
02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:25,440
but I honestly thought there wouldn't be that much to react to

1875
02:23:25,440 --> 02:23:28,440
given that it's mostly just him making a video.

1876
02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:31,440
Like, he didn't stream it or anything.

1877
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:34,440
So in his characteristic, high-energy way,

1878
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:37,440
he built a gaming PC. Pretty cool.

1879
02:23:37,440 --> 02:23:40,440
What are we looking at here? I saw a lot of people... Wait, he's not running Windows.

1880
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:43,440
He's running Linux? Yeah, right?

1881
02:23:43,440 --> 02:23:46,440
That was not on my 2025 Bingo card.

1882
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:51,440
I saw some ordinary gamers in the comments.

1883
02:23:51,440 --> 02:23:56,440
I was like, oh, what did they come and say? And I was like, what?

1884
02:23:56,440 --> 02:23:59,440
What distro?

1885
02:23:59,440 --> 02:24:03,440
And how is the comments not just entirely people yelling at him

1886
02:24:03,440 --> 02:24:06,440
about his distro choice? Yeah, I know, right?

1887
02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:11,440
What happened to... Wait, Linux Mint?

1888
02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:14,440
Oh, well, that's sick. He's so based.

1889
02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:19,440
All right, let's go. Maybe that's why no one's yelling at him.

1890
02:24:19,440 --> 02:24:23,440
Anyway, it's like a pretty sick machine. He didn't mention what GPU he was using,

1891
02:24:23,440 --> 02:24:27,440
so that's pretty funny. He talked about some of his struggles,

1892
02:24:27,440 --> 02:24:30,440
including talking about inserting the RAM wrong,

1893
02:24:30,440 --> 02:24:35,440
struggling with which way the fans blow when they're installed on the cooler.

1894
02:24:35,440 --> 02:24:39,440
He apparently ended up switching out almost all the parts throughout the build since he couldn't get them to work

1895
02:24:39,440 --> 02:24:43,440
in the case or some other issue came up in it. But in the end, it booted.

1896
02:24:43,440 --> 02:24:46,440
And he installed Windows. And he installed Linux.

1897
02:24:46,440 --> 02:24:50,440
He did not install Windows. Discussion question.

1898
02:24:50,440 --> 02:24:55,440
Is building PCs that easy? We always hear it's easy as building its adult Lego,

1899
02:24:55,440 --> 02:24:58,440
but as seen by this and other videos, people can struggle with it.

1900
02:24:58,440 --> 02:25:02,440
And I think, honestly, that's not much of a discussion question. That's just a fact.

1901
02:25:02,440 --> 02:25:05,440
And we have to not end up in our little bubble

1902
02:25:05,440 --> 02:25:08,440
where we think this stuff is simple and anyone should be able to do it

1903
02:25:08,440 --> 02:25:12,440
because that's an elitist bulls*** attitude and we should try to be a welcoming.

1904
02:25:12,440 --> 02:25:18,440
So welcome. Welcome to the PC building crew, PewDiePie.

1905
02:25:18,440 --> 02:25:21,440
Now I will never have to build you a computer again,

1906
02:25:21,440 --> 02:25:25,440
which is good because that was a nightmare. It took forever and then it broke in shipping

1907
02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:30,440
and it was the whole thing. All right, is it time to shift after dark?

1908
02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:34,440
All right, let's do it.

1909
02:25:36,440 --> 02:25:39,440
Oh, good gravy. There's a bunch of merge messages today.

1910
02:25:39,440 --> 02:25:41,440
That makes sense with the framework hoodie.

1911
02:25:45,440 --> 02:25:48,440
We're in magenta mode. Nice.

1912
02:25:48,440 --> 02:25:53,440
All right. Mr. Sebastian, Mr. Lafaynier and Daddy Dan.

1913
02:25:53,440 --> 02:25:57,440
I'm trying to get into older JRPGs. Give me your recommendations to start with.

1914
02:25:57,440 --> 02:26:00,440
Chrono trigger. Easy.

1915
02:26:01,440 --> 02:26:04,440
It's a masterpiece. I just replayed Final Fantasy 6

1916
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:06,440
and I love Final Fantasy 6,

1917
02:26:07,440 --> 02:26:10,440
but I replayed Chrono Trigger, I think, two years ago

1918
02:26:10,440 --> 02:26:11,440
and...

1919
02:26:18,440 --> 02:26:19,440
It's better.

1920
02:26:22,440 --> 02:26:26,440
Wow. Wow. That's a big...

1921
02:26:26,440 --> 02:26:30,440
That's a big thing for Linus to say. I feel like Linus just grew as a person in that.

1922
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:33,440
I think we just watched and heard it happen.

1923
02:26:33,440 --> 02:26:36,440
That's wild. It was hard.

1924
02:26:36,440 --> 02:26:42,440
It was hard to do. It was hard to do. Final Fantasy 6 is an incredible game.

1925
02:26:42,440 --> 02:26:47,440
I do wonder how much of my problem is that the Pixel Remaster has like balance issues

1926
02:26:47,440 --> 02:26:51,440
and bugs that are bothering me a lot more than the balance issues and bugs

1927
02:26:53,440 --> 02:26:56,440
in the original release. I don't know.

1928
02:26:56,440 --> 02:27:01,440
I don't know right now. Hard to say. But what I will say is that

1929
02:27:01,440 --> 02:27:05,440
playing the original cart version of Chrono Trigger

1930
02:27:05,440 --> 02:27:08,440
a couple of years ago, it was just engrossing. I couldn't put it down.

1931
02:27:08,440 --> 02:27:11,440
Whereas Final Fantasy 6, I played through...

1932
02:27:11,440 --> 02:27:14,440
I think I'm through about 75, 80% of the game now

1933
02:27:14,440 --> 02:27:19,440
and I put it down and I stopped playing. And that did not happen with Chrono Trigger.

1934
02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:24,440
Yeah. If you want to actually finish the game

1935
02:27:24,440 --> 02:27:27,440
play Chrono Trigger, it's just so good.

1936
02:27:27,440 --> 02:27:30,440
It's so good. With the news of some 5090s missing ROPs,

1937
02:27:30,440 --> 02:27:33,440
does this change your mind getting the 5090 yourself?

1938
02:27:33,440 --> 02:27:37,440
And will you also check to see if the card Labs used

1939
02:27:37,440 --> 02:27:40,440
was affected? If so, will you rerun benchmarks?

1940
02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:43,440
Yeah, it'd be a good idea to check our cards.

1941
02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:47,440
I doubt that they are, given that we have multiple cards

1942
02:27:48,440 --> 02:27:54,440
and we would have noticed if our runs were off here and there.

1943
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:57,440
We also double-checked our results

1944
02:27:57,440 --> 02:28:01,440
with some of our friends in the media and with NVIDIA themselves before release

1945
02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:05,440
just to make sure that we're all kind of on the same page and everything is as expected.

1946
02:28:05,440 --> 02:28:08,440
The last thing you want to do is publish your review

1947
02:28:08,440 --> 02:28:11,440
and it turns out, oh yeah, I was missing some ROPs.

1948
02:28:11,440 --> 02:28:14,440
Especially when that kind of thing is easily avoidable

1949
02:28:14,440 --> 02:28:17,440
by just collaborating.

1950
02:28:17,440 --> 02:28:23,440
So yeah, I'm sure it's fine, but I wouldn't be a bad idea for us to double-check, yeah.

1951
02:28:23,440 --> 02:28:27,440
Oh, as for whether I'm getting one, you'll have to wait for the upcoming video

1952
02:28:27,440 --> 02:28:32,440
where I, Ploof and I both announce our final decisions.

1953
02:28:32,440 --> 02:28:35,440
Hey, WAN.DL. That's still upcoming? Oh, sorry.

1954
02:28:35,440 --> 02:28:39,440
Isn't that out? No, it's not out yet. Was that not the 8K gaming video?

1955
02:28:39,440 --> 02:28:42,440
4K gaming, because neither of us has an 8K monitor.

1956
02:28:42,440 --> 02:28:45,440
We don't give two shits out games at 8K. That was just for fun. Got it.

1957
02:28:45,440 --> 02:28:48,440
Okay, okay, okay. Hey, WAN.DL.

1958
02:28:48,440 --> 02:28:51,440
I started playing ANNA 1800 based on watching the show

1959
02:28:51,440 --> 02:28:54,440
and I love it. Wanted to know if Luke plays on his own at all.

1960
02:28:54,440 --> 02:28:59,440
I'm a computer science major. I think it's a game for tech nerds and developers.

1961
02:28:59,440 --> 02:29:03,440
Yeah, I do. I have, I prefer playing with Linus,

1962
02:29:03,440 --> 02:29:07,440
but I have definitely played by myself as well.

1963
02:29:07,440 --> 02:29:10,440
I think it's a game for any kind of obsessive personality.

1964
02:29:10,440 --> 02:29:15,440
Fun fact. At least I think this is a fact or it might be a factoid,

1965
02:29:15,440 --> 02:29:20,440
which fun fact is a fake fact, but can also mean real fact.

1966
02:29:20,440 --> 02:29:29,440
ANNO 1602, from my understanding, was the first or one of the first

1967
02:29:29,440 --> 02:29:35,440
video games that had a nearly even split across the sexes.

1968
02:29:35,440 --> 02:29:39,440
It was almost equally played by women and men.

1969
02:29:39,440 --> 02:29:47,440
That's cool. I don't know where I got that from,

1970
02:29:47,440 --> 02:29:55,440
but I believe they were like very surprised by the demographics.

1971
02:29:55,440 --> 02:29:59,440
Man, I, hold on.

1972
02:29:59,440 --> 02:30:07,440
Women, here we go.

1973
02:30:07,440 --> 02:30:13,440
Okay, by 2000, Sunflower noticed a high proportion of inexperienced players

1974
02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:16,440
and women in the ANNO fan base,

1975
02:30:16,440 --> 02:30:19,440
which it attributed to the game's design goal of play without stress.

1976
02:30:19,440 --> 02:30:24,440
Personally, I don't actually find it unstressful.

1977
02:30:24,440 --> 02:30:27,440
You can put it on easier difficulties.

1978
02:30:27,440 --> 02:30:32,440
ANNO 1602 was stressful.

1979
02:30:32,440 --> 02:30:35,440
There is not enough cloth.

1980
02:30:35,440 --> 02:30:38,440
People are starving.

1981
02:30:38,440 --> 02:30:41,440
Sorry.

1982
02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:44,440
There's an ANNO subreddit that's all about beauty building

1983
02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:47,440
and they just play on like really easy difficulties.

1984
02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:50,440
ANNO 1602 was hard.

1985
02:30:50,440 --> 02:30:54,440
Der Spiegel's Richard Lohenstein cited ANNO as an early computer game

1986
02:30:54,440 --> 02:31:04,440
to draw female players. He claimed in 2002 that approximately 25% of its buyers were women.

1987
02:31:04,440 --> 02:31:08,440
Likewise, called the game's number of female players an absolute novelty

1988
02:31:08,440 --> 02:31:13,440
before the Sims and reported that women made up a nearly 50% of ANNO 1602 customers.

1989
02:31:13,440 --> 02:31:24,440
So I'm not sure what the exact numbers are, but yes, I clearly got this from somewhere that ANNO 1602 was like a shockingly successful game

1990
02:31:24,440 --> 02:31:31,440
with the fairer sex and that was sort of very surprising to basically everyone involved

1991
02:31:31,440 --> 02:31:37,440
back then. Like women did not, like video games were first,

1992
02:31:37,440 --> 02:31:41,440
wedding nerdy dudes. It was not like it is today.

1993
02:31:41,440 --> 02:31:48,440
I mean, even today, women tend to get treated differently in multiplayer lobbies.

1994
02:31:48,440 --> 02:31:53,440
You know, I would say the acceptance factor has not fully reached the level that it needs to get at.

1995
02:31:53,440 --> 02:31:56,440
I think that's a fair statement.

1996
02:31:56,440 --> 02:32:07,440
But back then, that was far less of a societally acceptable thing for sure.

1997
02:32:07,440 --> 02:32:11,440
Hey, DLL framework has created a neat ecosystem for creating custom modules.

1998
02:32:11,440 --> 02:32:16,440
What sort of user made modules would you be interested to see the most?

1999
02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:20,440
Hold on, someone says to check the citation for this. So I'm going to check that.

2000
02:32:20,440 --> 02:32:23,440
No, you guys go ahead first. Luke, what do you want?

2001
02:32:23,440 --> 02:32:27,440
I'm still up on cup holder.

2002
02:32:27,440 --> 02:32:31,440
You're still up on cup holder? Sorry, what's the question again?

2003
02:32:31,440 --> 02:32:34,440
For the framework custom modules.

2004
02:32:34,440 --> 02:32:42,440
Oh, yeah. What about a Ducky module?

2005
02:32:42,440 --> 02:32:45,440
What would that be? I'm getting the face.

2006
02:32:45,440 --> 02:32:52,440
I don't know. What would that be?

2007
02:32:52,440 --> 02:32:57,440
That would be so weird, because you'd have to find someone with a framework,

2008
02:32:57,440 --> 02:33:00,440
and then instead of just plugging the Ducky in,

2009
02:33:00,440 --> 02:33:07,440
you'd have to like take one of their modules out and put your module in?

2010
02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:10,440
Yeah, I mean, it could work.

2011
02:33:10,440 --> 02:33:14,440
I just, huh, yeah, interesting.

2012
02:33:14,440 --> 02:33:18,440
Oh, Wizard 1973 says flipper module.

2013
02:33:18,440 --> 02:33:21,440
That's probably a little bit more realistic.

2014
02:33:21,440 --> 02:33:27,440
Yeah, actually, that'd be kind of sick. It's a little big.

2015
02:33:27,440 --> 02:33:31,440
It would end up like sticking out of your laptop,

2016
02:33:31,440 --> 02:33:37,440
but that would be pretty cool. The modules have either been solved by framework or the community already

2017
02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:40,440
that I would actually like want,

2018
02:33:40,440 --> 02:33:47,440
because there are many community-made modules.

2019
02:33:47,440 --> 02:33:54,440
Yeah. I don't know. Sorry, I don't have a great answer for this.

2020
02:33:54,440 --> 02:33:57,440
I think Linus is still looking for these citations.

2021
02:33:57,440 --> 02:34:02,440
I don't really understand what I'm supposed to see in them, so I'm just going to move on for now.

2022
02:34:02,440 --> 02:34:06,440
Hi, LLD. I was wondering if you had any advice on getting sponsorships,

2023
02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:10,440
things to watch out for or how to become appealing to a company for a sponsorship?

2024
02:34:10,440 --> 02:34:13,440
Make content that gets lots of views.

2025
02:34:13,440 --> 02:34:16,440
That's a start.

2026
02:34:16,440 --> 02:34:25,440
Be fair, but not hostile and aggressive in your approach.

2027
02:34:25,440 --> 02:34:28,440
If you can get enough views, almost no matter who you are,

2028
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:34,440
someone will sponsor you. I would say that make sure that your sponsor outreach is to brands

2029
02:34:34,440 --> 02:34:38,440
that align with your persona and your image.

2030
02:34:38,440 --> 02:34:48,440
It also depends a little bit on your niche. I know of one creator in particular that they got a sponsor deal

2031
02:34:48,440 --> 02:34:53,440
that was a lot of people talk about CPM.

2032
02:34:53,440 --> 02:34:56,440
How much money do you get per 1,000 views?

2033
02:34:56,440 --> 02:35:00,440
This person got a $1 per view deal.

2034
02:35:00,440 --> 02:35:04,440
What? And has gotten that multiple times.

2035
02:35:04,440 --> 02:35:07,440
What? This is not a one-time thing.

2036
02:35:07,440 --> 02:35:15,440
And it's because their niche is professionals within a market

2037
02:35:15,440 --> 02:35:22,440
that tend to spend a lot of money on the thing that this creator educates about.

2038
02:35:22,440 --> 02:35:27,440
Okay, so they're getting like, you know, 700 views on a video,

2039
02:35:27,440 --> 02:35:31,440
but those 700 views are literally the 700 people in the world

2040
02:35:31,440 --> 02:35:36,440
who manage their organizations, whatever, for this.

2041
02:35:36,440 --> 02:35:40,440
Yeah, and it was a lot more than 700 views.

2042
02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:43,440
They're not an enormous creator. No, no, I know.

2043
02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:46,440
I just mean like, it's a very, very niche topic

2044
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:50,440
and it is for only people who care deeply about that niche

2045
02:35:50,440 --> 02:35:53,440
and are spending money.

2046
02:35:53,440 --> 02:35:56,440
It's the one, the particular one.

2047
02:35:56,440 --> 02:35:59,440
I know this is a thing that happens in certain niches.

2048
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:02,440
The particular one that I'm talking about is surprisingly not as niche

2049
02:36:02,440 --> 02:36:06,440
as you might think I can tell you after the show. No, no, I know who you're talking about.

2050
02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:10,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's interesting.

2051
02:36:10,440 --> 02:36:13,440
And like, I've heard of, I've heard tale of similar things

2052
02:36:13,440 --> 02:36:19,440
in other really small niches as well. A lot of it comes down to like, yeah, who is your audience?

2053
02:36:19,440 --> 02:36:24,440
Traditionally, fairly notoriously, like gaming content on YouTube

2054
02:36:24,440 --> 02:36:28,440
has just horrible CPMs because your audience is like...

2055
02:36:28,440 --> 02:36:31,440
These days, but it used to be really, really bad.

2056
02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:35,440
Probably. It used to skew really, really young.

2057
02:36:35,440 --> 02:36:40,440
Yeah. So there was very little buying power and a lot of the games

2058
02:36:40,440 --> 02:36:43,440
that were really popping off in regards to what people were covering

2059
02:36:43,440 --> 02:36:48,440
were things like, like happy wheels and stuff. So like none of it was like turning into spending power.

2060
02:36:48,440 --> 02:36:51,440
But the second you get into...

2061
02:36:51,440 --> 02:36:55,440
Yeah, like, I mean, Limes has talked about this for years now

2062
02:36:55,440 --> 02:36:58,440
about how he's been talking about how there's been a trend

2063
02:36:58,440 --> 02:37:02,440
towards smaller, more focused creators.

2064
02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:07,440
And I think this leans towards that as well. If you're covering a part of the market,

2065
02:37:07,440 --> 02:37:11,440
that is financially purchased, motivated people,

2066
02:37:11,440 --> 02:37:16,440
that often leans to professionals or hyper enthusiasts

2067
02:37:16,440 --> 02:37:19,440
that are going to buy something that has a lot of margin,

2068
02:37:19,440 --> 02:37:23,440
which again, professionals and hyper enthusiasts,

2069
02:37:23,440 --> 02:37:27,440
your view count can still be pretty low and you can potentially get sponsors

2070
02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:30,440
if these sponsors have real good money.

2071
02:37:30,440 --> 02:37:35,440
Or you can be a tiktoker that's getting hundreds of millions of views a month

2072
02:37:35,440 --> 02:37:39,440
and be working a day job. I've seen that too.

2073
02:37:39,440 --> 02:37:42,440
Yeah, that's like the complete other end of the spectrum

2074
02:37:42,440 --> 02:37:47,440
and they both totally exist, coexist.

2075
02:37:47,440 --> 02:37:49,440
It's weird, yeah.

2076
02:37:50,440 --> 02:37:54,440
Up next. Hey, DL and Remote L.

2077
02:37:54,440 --> 02:37:57,440
How do the credits work on videos?

2078
02:37:57,440 --> 02:38:01,440
What does each role typically do? Director, art director, production manager, etc.

2079
02:38:01,440 --> 02:38:04,440
I see Linus as director of most videos and was curious.

2080
02:38:04,440 --> 02:38:09,440
It depends on a video to video basis.

2081
02:38:09,440 --> 02:38:12,440
Sometimes it can be a little bit different

2082
02:38:12,440 --> 02:38:16,440
and that is all I have to say about that.

2083
02:38:17,440 --> 02:38:22,440
Hello, Wansho, looking forward to seeing a cat or three in this comfy CRT.

2084
02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:25,440
Nice. Do you think there's a solution for the growing tech literacy

2085
02:38:25,440 --> 02:38:28,440
among younger people?

2086
02:38:28,440 --> 02:38:32,440
I mean, no.

2087
02:38:32,440 --> 02:38:35,440
They don't learn because they don't need to

2088
02:38:35,440 --> 02:38:39,440
and I'm not going to tell people,

2089
02:38:39,440 --> 02:38:42,440
well, stuff should be more broken

2090
02:38:42,440 --> 02:38:46,440
and crappier and harder to use so that you have to learn it.

2091
02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:53,440
Most people shouldn't need to learn coding.

2092
02:38:53,440 --> 02:38:56,440
Super cool if you want to and that's awesome

2093
02:38:56,440 --> 02:38:59,440
and like power to you, go, go, go, go, go.

2094
02:38:59,440 --> 02:39:04,440
But, you know, we need tech for so much of our daily lives

2095
02:39:04,440 --> 02:39:08,440
and not everyone who needs to use it

2096
02:39:08,440 --> 02:39:13,440
should need to be intimately familiar with how to fix it.

2097
02:39:13,440 --> 02:39:17,440
Yeah, especially how to fix it, to be honest, these days.

2098
02:39:17,440 --> 02:39:21,440
I mean, there's a reason why all those old tech repair shops

2099
02:39:21,440 --> 02:39:24,440
are starting to fade away

2100
02:39:24,440 --> 02:39:29,440
because it's not needed as much anymore.

2101
02:39:29,440 --> 02:39:32,440
And it's not even as possible.

2102
02:39:32,440 --> 02:39:37,440
Harris asks, but what about touch typing?

2103
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:40,440
Yeah.

2104
02:39:40,440 --> 02:39:44,440
I do believe very strongly that touch typing

2105
02:39:44,440 --> 02:39:50,440
is an invaluable life skill and I insist that all my kids can do it,

2106
02:39:50,440 --> 02:39:53,440
but I don't know, man.

2107
02:39:53,440 --> 02:39:57,440
Other than parents intervening, I don't really know what anyone can do

2108
02:39:57,440 --> 02:40:03,440
about people not learning to type. This is when I flex my blank white ceramics at home.

2109
02:40:03,440 --> 02:40:07,440
Nice. It was a mistake.

2110
02:40:07,440 --> 02:40:10,440
Hello, Wansho, looking forward to seeing the same

2111
02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:13,440
message that I read. Linus, have you ever tried dirt biking?

2112
02:40:13,440 --> 02:40:16,440
No. I would probably really enjoy it,

2113
02:40:16,440 --> 02:40:20,440
but I'm getting pretty old and breakable

2114
02:40:20,440 --> 02:40:23,440
to do stuff like that these days.

2115
02:40:23,440 --> 02:40:27,440
Hey, Linus, Luke and Lan, what do you think is the most interesting

2116
02:40:27,440 --> 02:40:31,440
or consequential lawsuit or legal battle ever related in the tech industry?

2117
02:40:31,440 --> 02:40:34,440
I'm curious to know what you guys think was the most important.

2118
02:40:34,440 --> 02:40:40,440
Honestly, I think the most important legal battles are ones that have just kind of not taken place.

2119
02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:45,440
I mean, how did the U.S. pay so much

2120
02:40:45,440 --> 02:40:48,440
for all that internet infrastructure to be built out

2121
02:40:48,440 --> 02:40:51,440
back in the 90s or whatever, 90s or 2000s,

2122
02:40:51,440 --> 02:40:56,440
I can't remember, and then have the ISPs just like f***ing not do it

2123
02:40:56,440 --> 02:40:59,440
and then just let that go.

2124
02:40:59,440 --> 02:41:03,440
Rug it off, yeah. Actually wild.

2125
02:41:03,440 --> 02:41:08,440
It's like, dude, what? Yeah, that was the beginning of some form of end.

2126
02:41:08,440 --> 02:41:12,440
I don't know which end, but that was the beginning of something. That was brutal.

2127
02:41:12,440 --> 02:41:16,440
Rysau says USA versus Microsoft. See, I would have called that consequential

2128
02:41:16,440 --> 02:41:19,440
if anything ever happened.

2129
02:41:19,440 --> 02:41:23,440
Well, no, it did. Oh, temporarily.

2130
02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:26,440
No, no, no, it stopped.

2131
02:41:26,440 --> 02:41:29,440
The consequence of that was that they stopped doing that.

2132
02:41:29,440 --> 02:41:33,440
Yeah, for a bit. For, I mean, a long time.

2133
02:41:33,440 --> 02:41:37,440
It didn't stop any of their competitors from doing it and it didn't stop Microsoft from going back to the...

2134
02:41:37,440 --> 02:41:40,440
Not Microsoft. The government.

2135
02:41:40,440 --> 02:41:44,440
Sorry, sorry, sorry. The government, what? Oh, oh, oh, oh, sure, sure, sure.

2136
02:41:44,440 --> 02:41:50,440
Yes, they stopped. They stopped filing these antitrust.

2137
02:41:50,440 --> 02:41:54,440
Yeah. And then they just... Sorry, I thought you meant Microsoft stopped

2138
02:41:54,440 --> 02:41:57,440
their bad behavior. I was like, what are you even talking about?

2139
02:41:57,440 --> 02:42:02,440
A little bit. Yeah, no, the government just completely walked back

2140
02:42:02,440 --> 02:42:05,440
and stopped doing that entirely. It was...

2141
02:42:05,440 --> 02:42:08,440
Yeah, it was a wild dude. Until Lena Khan.

2142
02:42:08,440 --> 02:42:11,440
And then... No, she's gone.

2143
02:42:11,440 --> 02:42:15,440
So it is what it is. Yeah. Lena, we're still waiting for you to come up here

2144
02:42:15,440 --> 02:42:19,440
and run for Prime Minister, by the way. I'm still into it.

2145
02:42:19,440 --> 02:42:24,440
Yeah, me too. Linus, I'm thinking of moving my 13-year-old son's PC

2146
02:42:24,440 --> 02:42:28,440
into his bedroom for his birthday. Any suggestions on software settings to help

2147
02:42:28,440 --> 02:42:32,440
keep him out of quote, unquote, trouble? Give up now.

2148
02:42:32,440 --> 02:42:36,440
Yeah, that's not going to happen. Don't bother.

2149
02:42:36,440 --> 02:42:41,440
That's the present. You're moving his computer into his bedroom

2150
02:42:41,440 --> 02:42:45,440
for his birthday? His permission.

2151
02:42:49,440 --> 02:42:52,440
I don't know how else to say that, buddy.

2152
02:42:52,440 --> 02:42:56,440
That is what it is. Moving on.

2153
02:42:56,440 --> 02:42:58,440
Hi there.

2154
02:43:00,440 --> 02:43:03,440
Should I buy the Ryzen 9800X3D right now,

2155
02:43:03,440 --> 02:43:06,440
or should I wait? There are many cases of them dying right now.

2156
02:43:08,440 --> 02:43:12,440
7800X3D? I've seen a handful of cases of them dying.

2157
02:43:12,440 --> 02:43:14,440
I don't think I've seen many.

2158
02:43:16,440 --> 02:43:19,440
I mean, yeah, I'd buy a 7800X3D right now.

2159
02:43:19,440 --> 02:43:23,440
Sure. Yeah. Recently, you mentioned getting a break

2160
02:43:23,440 --> 02:43:28,440
from your day-to-day. I do the same. What kind of things do you three do

2161
02:43:28,440 --> 02:43:30,440
to give yourself a mental break?

2162
02:43:31,440 --> 02:43:35,440
I go have a conversation in person that I could have had via chat.

2163
02:43:36,440 --> 02:43:39,440
That's a big one for me. I get up off of my ass,

2164
02:43:39,440 --> 02:43:43,440
and I go walk to talk to someone, which realistically, when you account for

2165
02:43:43,440 --> 02:43:46,440
the delay of them, like, responding to you,

2166
02:43:46,440 --> 02:43:50,440
isn't really any slower, and it gives me a chance to

2167
02:43:50,440 --> 02:43:54,440
get up, move my legs a little bit, refocus, and then I, when I come back to my desk,

2168
02:43:54,440 --> 02:43:56,440
I'm ready to do something else.

2169
02:43:57,440 --> 02:44:00,440
I'm kind of weird in the way that I find,

2170
02:44:01,440 --> 02:44:04,440
like, some people struggle with context switching.

2171
02:44:04,440 --> 02:44:07,440
I find if I don't context switch enough,

2172
02:44:07,440 --> 02:44:11,440
I'll, like, burn out on a task. So I'll have, like, for any given day,

2173
02:44:11,440 --> 02:44:14,440
I'll have, like, A, B, C, and D tasks.

2174
02:44:14,440 --> 02:44:18,440
And if I notice I start, like, slowing down, working on task A,

2175
02:44:18,440 --> 02:44:22,440
I'll just switch, and then switch, and then switch, and then switch,

2176
02:44:22,440 --> 02:44:26,440
and then switch, and just keep going. That's ADHD, yeah, but I, like,

2177
02:44:26,440 --> 02:44:30,440
prepare myself for it to make sure that there is something

2178
02:44:30,440 --> 02:44:34,440
appropriate for me to ADHD, too, if that makes sense.

2179
02:44:34,440 --> 02:44:38,440
I always have executive dysfunction.

2180
02:44:38,440 --> 02:44:42,440
Yeah, I'll take it, I'll take it, yeah. It's, it's,

2181
02:44:42,440 --> 02:44:46,440
yeah, I just, I understand how my brain works, and I allow myself

2182
02:44:46,440 --> 02:44:50,440
to still be properly, highly productive within that,

2183
02:44:50,440 --> 02:44:54,440
within those confines, I guess. Twice today, Sad Linus Plain,

2184
02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:58,440
who asked, how often do you really go right to someone, talk to them

2185
02:44:58,440 --> 02:45:02,440
and go right back to your desk? Yeah, I went and talked to Jamie

2186
02:45:02,440 --> 02:45:06,440
about whether we had a FizzX card, and forget who I was talking to

2187
02:45:06,440 --> 02:45:10,440
in the, in the writing room about something, but yeah, I just, like, got up and went

2188
02:45:10,440 --> 02:45:14,440
and chatted with them. I, I have done that as well.

2189
02:45:14,440 --> 02:45:18,440
I often use, I don't know if this is appropriate or not, I often use,

2190
02:45:18,440 --> 02:45:22,440
you just mentioned Jamie, I use logistics for some reason, I, I almost always

2191
02:45:22,440 --> 02:45:26,440
talk to them in person. I don't send them a Fizz message.

2192
02:45:26,440 --> 02:45:30,440
It does seem to magpie all of them when people come and visit, so

2193
02:45:30,440 --> 02:45:34,440
I'm just pointing that out. You can talk to me.

2194
02:45:34,440 --> 02:45:38,440
I don't do it that often, you know. I don't do, I don't do that often, but.

2195
02:45:38,440 --> 02:45:42,440
Go bother Labs. Yes, I did field Earthquake today.

2196
02:45:42,440 --> 02:45:46,440
I wasn't sure if it was a big truck going by, it felt too big to be a big truck,

2197
02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:50,440
but yeah, there was an Earthquake in our area was that an Earthquake?

2198
02:45:50,440 --> 02:45:54,440
And then I lost track of it and then I went to the washroom and then

2199
02:45:54,440 --> 02:45:58,440
I talked to people about the Earthquake because my aunt texted me and said that there was an Earthquake.

2200
02:45:58,440 --> 02:46:02,440
So I talked to people about the Earthquake today too. I could have done that via text

2201
02:46:02,440 --> 02:46:06,440
or I could have looked it up on my computer but instead I went and talked to people about it.

2202
02:46:06,440 --> 02:46:10,440
Just a little one. Small Earthquake. When you want to move up

2203
02:46:10,440 --> 02:46:14,440
to your boss's position, he's retiring soon, how would you go about

2204
02:46:14,440 --> 02:46:18,440
talking to your boss if they are very closed off? Also, big and tall when?

2205
02:46:18,440 --> 02:46:22,440
I need a 6XL in the screensaver shirt as soon as possible. If your boss is very

2206
02:46:22,440 --> 02:46:26,440
closed off to you, I have some bad news for you. You probably

2207
02:46:26,440 --> 02:46:30,440
aren't getting the position. But,

2208
02:46:30,440 --> 02:46:34,440
I mean, you never know they might respect you for bringing it up

2209
02:46:34,440 --> 02:46:38,440
and asking the question had they announced that they're retiring soon?

2210
02:46:38,440 --> 02:46:42,440
Because I probably wouldn't I probably wouldn't say, hey,

2211
02:46:42,440 --> 02:46:46,440
so when you retire, can I have your job if they haven't actually said that they're

2212
02:46:46,440 --> 02:46:50,440
going to retire? Because that might be awkward. Maybe they aren't planning to retire

2213
02:46:50,440 --> 02:46:54,440
even though you think they should retire. I don't know what your dynamics are.

2214
02:46:54,440 --> 02:46:58,440
You could open it with, hey, I think you should retire soon.

2215
02:46:58,440 --> 02:47:02,440
How do you want to navigate that? They'll definitely take that totally well for sure.

2216
02:47:02,440 --> 02:47:06,440
Yeah. Slash S, big slash S there.

2217
02:47:08,440 --> 02:47:12,440
I mean... Let me tell you,

2218
02:47:12,440 --> 02:47:14,440
have I ever

2219
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:20,440
Can I have your watch when you're dead, says E-Gaggett

2220
02:47:20,440 --> 02:47:24,440
guy in the Floatplane chat. Yeah.

2221
02:47:24,440 --> 02:47:28,440
Now he's taking that to the cold art grave. If they've actually talked about it,

2222
02:47:28,440 --> 02:47:32,440
then I would say I would say, like,

2223
02:47:32,440 --> 02:47:36,440
express your interest. Just say, hey, you know, what do you think

2224
02:47:36,440 --> 02:47:40,440
I would need to work on to

2225
02:47:40,440 --> 02:47:44,440
to be qualified to

2226
02:47:44,440 --> 02:47:48,440
for a promotion. You don't even have to say their job specifically

2227
02:47:48,440 --> 02:47:52,440
because that could be awkward. I've got an angle for you. Sure. If you want to disconnect it

2228
02:47:52,440 --> 02:47:56,440
a little bit so it sounds far from a threat. I watched this

2229
02:47:56,440 --> 02:48:00,440
movie on the plane. But there's the movie of...

2230
02:48:00,440 --> 02:48:04,440
I'd probably figured out the actual title of the movie. But there's the movie of the guy who

2231
02:48:04,440 --> 02:48:08,440
invented flaming hot Cheetos. A big part of that movie is that he

2232
02:48:08,440 --> 02:48:12,440
watched a video from the CEO of whatever it was, Laze.

2233
02:48:12,440 --> 02:48:16,440
And the CEO said that he wanted more

2234
02:48:16,440 --> 02:48:20,440
people at the company to think like a CEO. And you can be like, oh, I was inspired by this

2235
02:48:20,440 --> 02:48:24,440
movie. I wanted to do more on the workplace. So I wanted to understand more about your

2236
02:48:24,440 --> 02:48:28,440
thought process and how you move the company forward so I can contribute

2237
02:48:28,440 --> 02:48:32,440
better. Because then it shows initiative and doesn't go across like a threat.

2238
02:48:32,440 --> 02:48:36,440
Yeah. Can I have your monitor arms when you leave?

2239
02:48:36,440 --> 02:48:40,440
You know, also when you leave it. Birdie Num Num's credit for

2240
02:48:40,440 --> 02:48:44,440
that one Floatplane chat. Okay. As for Big and Tall, we're still working

2241
02:48:44,440 --> 02:48:48,440
on it. I don't think we're going to get that in the screen

2242
02:48:48,440 --> 02:48:50,440
saver shirts anytime soon though. I'm sorry.

2243
02:48:52,440 --> 02:48:56,440
Hey, Linus, Luke and Dan.

2244
02:48:56,440 --> 02:49:00,440
Considering the layoffs, when do you think the tech employment market will

2245
02:49:00,440 --> 02:49:04,440
get better? What tech do you see increasing in demand?

2246
02:49:04,440 --> 02:49:08,440
Concerned computer engineering major here. I do not see

2247
02:49:08,440 --> 02:49:12,440
a dawn

2248
02:49:12,440 --> 02:49:16,440
after this night on the horizon.

2249
02:49:16,440 --> 02:49:20,440
Nope. People are saying never with LLMs,

2250
02:49:20,440 --> 02:49:24,440
but honestly, I've talked about this a few times, so it's a little exhaustive at this

2251
02:49:24,440 --> 02:49:28,440
point, but there was a hiring practice that was happening in Silicon Valley

2252
02:49:28,440 --> 02:49:32,440
where people were like, offensively hiring.

2253
02:49:32,440 --> 02:49:36,440
There was many managers that had

2254
02:49:36,440 --> 02:49:40,440
bonuses tied to how many people they could hire,

2255
02:49:40,440 --> 02:49:44,440
and the approach was, hey, if we hire everybody,

2256
02:49:44,440 --> 02:49:48,440
none of the other companies can have anyone that's any good.

2257
02:49:48,440 --> 02:49:52,440
And then, I guess,

2258
02:49:52,440 --> 02:49:56,440
collectively everybody decided yeah, that was silly.

2259
02:49:56,440 --> 02:50:00,440
Let's stop doing that. Because we're paying a bunch of people that we

2260
02:50:00,440 --> 02:50:04,440
like, yeah, anyways. Luke talked about this behind the scenes

2261
02:50:04,440 --> 02:50:08,440
a lot, where he's like, this is ridiculous, because I can't hire anybody

2262
02:50:08,440 --> 02:50:12,440
at like a normal company where we're paying based on

2263
02:50:12,440 --> 02:50:16,440
sort of the value that we can

2264
02:50:16,440 --> 02:50:20,440
create in our product. The numbers just don't make any sense,

2265
02:50:20,440 --> 02:50:24,440
like how much revenue we can drive, and what development

2266
02:50:24,440 --> 02:50:28,440
it takes to build a product, like this is insanity.

2267
02:50:28,440 --> 02:50:32,440
And it turns out that in the long term, Luke was right.

2268
02:50:32,440 --> 02:50:36,440
The whole thing was completely an unsustainable house of cards, and everybody sort

2269
02:50:36,440 --> 02:50:40,440
of got, everyone sort of looked at each other and went, this is ridiculous.

2270
02:50:40,440 --> 02:50:44,440
What are we even doing at around the same time post COVID, and

2271
02:50:44,440 --> 02:50:48,440
we're still in recovery from that.

2272
02:50:48,440 --> 02:50:52,440
Oh yeah, for sure. I completed about that on my show and had

2273
02:50:52,440 --> 02:50:56,440
hiring managers from some companies

2274
02:50:56,440 --> 02:51:00,440
reach out to talk to me about it, and one of them was super open

2275
02:51:00,440 --> 02:51:02,440
and was talking about how like

2276
02:51:04,440 --> 02:51:08,440
they would get budgets for hiring people

2277
02:51:08,440 --> 02:51:12,440
that were just enormous,

2278
02:51:12,440 --> 02:51:16,440
but they wouldn't have roles.

2279
02:51:18,440 --> 02:51:22,440
What? They just had budgets to hire people.

2280
02:51:22,440 --> 02:51:26,440
And this is like, I'm not going to need the company.

2281
02:51:26,440 --> 02:51:30,440
You all know the company that I'm talking about.

2282
02:51:32,440 --> 02:51:36,440
And they were talking about how like, yeah, it was my job

2283
02:51:36,440 --> 02:51:40,440
to just beat other recruiters because we wanted to deny

2284
02:51:40,440 --> 02:51:44,440
these people from working at these other companies, but then

2285
02:51:44,440 --> 02:51:48,440
maybe we'll find something for them to do,

2286
02:51:48,440 --> 02:51:52,440
maybe we'll just work on some garbage for a while, who knows.

2287
02:51:52,440 --> 02:51:56,440
But yeah, I'm like, okay, cool. So I'm competing against that.

2288
02:51:58,440 --> 02:52:00,440
Neat.

2289
02:52:02,440 --> 02:52:06,440
Pretty awesome. Best Buy?

2290
02:52:06,440 --> 02:52:10,440
No, sorry, I'm not talking about Best Buy.

2291
02:52:10,440 --> 02:52:14,440
That's the only one I'm going to confirm or deny, but it was definitely not Best Buy.

2292
02:52:14,440 --> 02:52:18,440
Cool. All right, Dan.

2293
02:52:18,440 --> 02:52:22,440
I got another one here for Luke. You're talking about going to games

2294
02:52:22,440 --> 02:52:26,440
at the University of Arizona Stadium. Are you aware of the world class

2295
02:52:26,440 --> 02:52:30,440
large format, a 0.6 meter telescope mirror production

2296
02:52:30,440 --> 02:52:34,440
lab in the A located in the stadium?

2297
02:52:34,440 --> 02:52:38,440
Love the show. No.

2298
02:52:38,440 --> 02:52:42,440
What? Very cool though.

2299
02:52:42,440 --> 02:52:46,440
In the A in the stadium? I think that's probably something

2300
02:52:46,440 --> 02:52:50,440
I don't know. I've never been to the University of Arizona.

2301
02:52:50,440 --> 02:52:54,440
I'm sure there's a giant head because it's University of Arizona,

2302
02:52:54,440 --> 02:52:58,440
but I don't... That sounds wild.

2303
02:52:58,440 --> 02:53:02,440
No, I didn't know. The A in quotation mark.

2304
02:53:02,440 --> 02:53:06,440
Ah, just A. Richard something

2305
02:53:06,440 --> 02:53:10,440
mirror lab. What am I even looking at here? Richard Karris

2306
02:53:10,440 --> 02:53:14,440
mirror laboratory. Sorry, where is it though?

2307
02:53:14,440 --> 02:53:18,440
Is it in the stadium? No?

2308
02:53:18,440 --> 02:53:22,440
No. Oh, okay.

2309
02:53:22,440 --> 02:53:26,440
Sorry, where is it? It's in the A in quotation marks.

2310
02:53:26,440 --> 02:53:30,440
I don't know what that means. Is this the A?

2311
02:53:30,440 --> 02:53:34,440
No, he asked about the stadium and then separately.

2312
02:53:34,440 --> 02:53:38,440
Oh, okay. I've only got 180 characters, guys.

2313
02:53:38,440 --> 02:53:42,440
Yeah. Yeah.

2314
02:53:42,440 --> 02:53:46,440
In the A. In the A.

2315
02:53:46,440 --> 02:53:50,440
Okay. The University of Arizona

2316
02:53:50,440 --> 02:53:54,440
also has, slash, had a tree ring research lab

2317
02:53:54,440 --> 02:53:58,440
in the football stadium. Apparently the mirror lab is under the stadium.

2318
02:53:58,440 --> 02:54:02,440
It is under the stadium. Under the A.

2319
02:54:02,440 --> 02:54:06,440
So literally... Literally in the A.

2320
02:54:06,440 --> 02:54:10,440
Yes, it is in the A. Okay. It is under the stadium because that...

2321
02:54:10,440 --> 02:54:14,440
It is under the plant stadium. They also have a secret lab below it?

2322
02:54:14,440 --> 02:54:18,440
Yeah. America, really.

2323
02:54:18,440 --> 02:54:22,440
Classic America. That's incredible.

2324
02:54:22,440 --> 02:54:26,440
Good job, America. Yeah.

2325
02:54:26,440 --> 02:54:30,440
If only you were as good at hockey as you were at building a...

2326
02:54:30,440 --> 02:54:34,440
mirror lab in your stadium. Ney, immortal words of Linus.

2327
02:54:34,440 --> 02:54:38,440
Got him. Hello, Linus and Duke and Lan.

2328
02:54:38,440 --> 02:54:42,440
What are the keepsakes do you always get when you travel?

2329
02:54:42,440 --> 02:54:46,440
I do patches and also want to know if I can add them to the community backpack.

2330
02:54:46,440 --> 02:54:50,440
Thank you. Don't iron them. You can sew them on.

2331
02:54:50,440 --> 02:54:54,440
Your mileage may vary. Like anything, when you put holes in it,

2332
02:54:54,440 --> 02:54:58,440
you know, whatever, holes are in it. I used to do key chains for my kids

2333
02:54:58,440 --> 02:55:02,440
and they got to the point where each of them had about eight pounds of key chains

2334
02:55:02,440 --> 02:55:06,440
and I was starting to struggle to find new ones that they didn't already have

2335
02:55:06,440 --> 02:55:10,440
their text on it. It turns out there's only so many key chains in the world

2336
02:55:10,440 --> 02:55:14,440
and so I stopped. Hi, Dynus, Duke and Lan.

2337
02:55:14,440 --> 02:55:18,440
I'm always impressed by how up-to-date you stay with the tech news.

2338
02:55:18,440 --> 02:55:22,440
What's your preferred news aggregator? PS iPhone 16e will do

2339
02:55:22,440 --> 02:55:26,440
iPhone 16. What pixel 8a did to pixel 8?

2340
02:55:30,440 --> 02:55:34,440
Tongue twister. I use Google's news feed

2341
02:55:34,440 --> 02:55:38,440
but honestly, I don't think it's great. If I was going to

2342
02:55:38,440 --> 02:55:42,440
if I was going to pay for something I'd probably pay for ground news

2343
02:55:42,440 --> 02:55:46,440
but I am such a kind of idle

2344
02:55:46,440 --> 02:55:48,440
consumer of news that I haven't bothered yet.

2345
02:55:52,440 --> 02:55:56,440
Hey, DLL. I just got my commuter bag today and I love it.

2346
02:55:56,440 --> 02:56:00,440
Question for Linus. I'd like to be more articulate and well-spoken

2347
02:56:00,440 --> 02:56:04,440
in client presentations. Do you have any tips on how to improve your public speaking?

2348
02:56:04,440 --> 02:56:08,440
Watch yourself back. Oh, God.

2349
02:56:08,440 --> 02:56:12,440
Anytime you get bored, record it again.

2350
02:56:12,440 --> 02:56:16,440
Do it over. Having dynamism in your delivery

2351
02:56:16,440 --> 02:56:20,440
is really important. Monotone is so hard to listen to

2352
02:56:20,440 --> 02:56:24,440
and the pacing is important too. See that pause I did there? Monotone

2353
02:56:24,440 --> 02:56:28,440
is so hard to listen to. You have to change up the pacing as well.

2354
02:56:28,440 --> 02:56:32,440
So you have to change the tone and you have to change the pacing

2355
02:56:32,440 --> 02:56:36,440
and you have to make sure that you are emphasizing the points that are most important.

2356
02:56:36,440 --> 02:56:40,440
If you can do that. I've fallen into this

2357
02:56:40,440 --> 02:56:44,440
I've fallen into this as well where

2358
02:56:44,440 --> 02:56:48,440
you just start like going turbo mode and you just talk like super, super, super, super fast.

2359
02:56:50,440 --> 02:56:54,440
I mean, I've seen tons of people fall into it especially when people are nervous.

2360
02:56:54,440 --> 02:56:58,440
Just try to try to breathe and stay calm

2361
02:56:58,440 --> 02:57:02,440
and keep your pace reasonable because you can't do the things that Linus

2362
02:57:02,440 --> 02:57:06,440
is just describing when you're going 10,000 miles a minute.

2363
02:57:06,440 --> 02:57:10,440
So that can help by going through things, repeating things,

2364
02:57:10,440 --> 02:57:14,440
having done it in a mere bunch of times so that it's second nature when you're up there.

2365
02:57:14,440 --> 02:57:18,440
But yeah, try not to go away too fast.

2366
02:57:18,440 --> 02:57:22,440
Hey, DLL. I'm in pursuit of my BS

2367
02:57:22,440 --> 02:57:26,440
in computer science, not computer science.

2368
02:57:26,440 --> 02:57:30,440
And often have a feeling of imposter syndrome. Do any of you ever

2369
02:57:30,440 --> 02:57:34,440
or have ever felt that way? How do you manage it?

2370
02:57:34,440 --> 02:57:38,440
I think everyone probably feels that to a degree. I think if they don't

2371
02:57:38,440 --> 02:57:42,440
there's probably something wrong with them like they probably

2372
02:57:42,440 --> 02:57:46,440
have overconfidence issues because part of knowing

2373
02:57:46,440 --> 02:57:50,440
anything about anything is knowing that you

2374
02:57:50,440 --> 02:57:54,440
don't really know much about most things. Just do your best.

2375
02:57:54,440 --> 02:57:58,440
I think that's the most important thing. Just tell yourself and tell everyone

2376
02:57:58,440 --> 02:58:02,440
around you, yeah, I'm doing my best. That's the way that I respond

2377
02:58:02,440 --> 02:58:06,440
and I really do believe it. Whenever someone tells me, oh man, you make the best videos

2378
02:58:06,440 --> 02:58:10,440
I'm like, I do my best. Because I don't make the best videos.

2379
02:58:10,440 --> 02:58:14,440
Obviously they feel that way in that moment. They're having an emotional moment or whatever

2380
02:58:14,440 --> 02:58:18,440
but I'm not. I'm here grinding out making the best

2381
02:58:18,440 --> 02:58:22,440
video I can every day. Is it a

2382
02:58:22,440 --> 02:58:26,440
certified banger every once in a while? Sure.

2383
02:58:26,440 --> 02:58:30,440
But it's not going to be the best and that's okay.

2384
02:58:30,440 --> 02:58:34,440
I'm going to do my best and as long as I'm actually doing my best

2385
02:58:34,440 --> 02:58:38,440
I can tell myself that with confidence. I can tell other people that with confidence

2386
02:58:38,440 --> 02:58:42,440
and that's all that anyone can ask of you.

2387
02:58:44,440 --> 02:58:48,440
Other than... There was a cool

2388
02:58:48,440 --> 02:58:50,440
quote that came out of...

2389
02:58:54,440 --> 02:58:58,440
What is it? It's from a book,

2390
02:58:58,440 --> 02:59:02,440
A Man on the Moon, The Voyages of the Apollo Astronauts

2391
02:59:02,440 --> 02:59:06,440
by Andrew Sheikin and the quote is

2392
02:59:06,440 --> 02:59:10,440
it won't fail because of me and it sounds

2393
02:59:10,440 --> 02:59:14,440
really like arrogant at first but it's actually

2394
02:59:14,440 --> 02:59:18,440
it's not. What your means is that

2395
02:59:18,440 --> 02:59:22,440
you'll put the work in to make sure that your contribution to this thing

2396
02:59:22,440 --> 02:59:26,440
is handled. With the Apollo stuff there's so many

2397
02:59:26,440 --> 02:59:30,440
different systems that had to all work together and there was no way that you as an individual

2398
02:59:30,440 --> 02:59:34,440
could oversee everything but what you could do

2399
02:59:34,440 --> 02:59:38,440
is put as much work and as much effort as you possibly can into your little thing.

2400
02:59:38,440 --> 02:59:42,440
So you know you'll...

2401
02:59:42,440 --> 02:59:46,440
I think you said you're in school right now and you're going to be assigned to some task

2402
02:59:46,440 --> 02:59:50,440
and once that happens it doesn't matter if you feel like you're ready for it or not

2403
02:59:50,440 --> 02:59:54,440
you're in it so just do everything you can to do a good job

2404
02:59:54,440 --> 02:59:58,440
and don't let it fail because of you.

2405
02:59:58,440 --> 03:00:02,440
Other than disclaimer, this output may be wrong.

2406
03:00:02,440 --> 03:00:06,440
How would you test the output of an LLM integrated into a product?

2407
03:00:06,440 --> 03:00:08,440
That sounds like a pretty good disclaimer.

2408
03:00:10,440 --> 03:00:14,440
You can't really. Yeah, you can't. You never know

2409
03:00:14,440 --> 03:00:16,440
what it's going to do, what it's going to say.

2410
03:00:18,440 --> 03:00:22,440
Yep. So put more disclaimers.

2411
03:00:22,440 --> 03:00:24,440
Yeah, all the disclaimer.

2412
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Lurker here. DLL this year I get married

2413
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and get to welcome my first baby girl. Yay, congrats.

2414
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Do you have any life advice or tips for me in my new upcoming journey?

2415
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Part of me is excited and part of me is scared. Harness both of those parts.

2416
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Because what's coming is going to be the best thing ever

2417
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and it's also going to be terrifying. Have fun.

2418
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I agree Apple QA has gone down. I found the best way to deal with issues

2419
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like Linus had instead of restoring from backup is to set up a new phone

2420
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then import your stuff back. Backups cause issues.

2421
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Well, I set this up as a new phone so hypothesis

2422
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defeated. Yeah, sure. That is

2423
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good. But for someone like me, if a manufacturer tells me

2424
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reset your phone and start over I am throwing that phone in the garbage

2425
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and I am moving on to something else. That is for the amount of time that that takes me

2426
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I don't work for you. You just assigned me somewhere between

2427
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three and five hours of work. No.

2428
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And that's totally unreasonable of me. It is perfectly

2429
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okay for a manufacturer to say, hey, try a complete

2430
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factory reset. But I won't do that.

2431
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That's actually not worth it for me.

2432
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At D and L and at L and L

2433
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loving my commute. I bought a 14 inch thing pad to fit

2434
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in it. Do you think RTX add-in cards could be

2435
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the way forward for AMD maybe expandable cam module

2436
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RAM in future GPUs? I learned something

2437
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recently and you guys will get a video soon.

2438
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But no, I don't think cam is going to work for GPUs. Even onboard GPUs

2439
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you'll get more details in an upcoming video in the next week or so.

2440
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It's a bummer, but it is my belief that that's just not happening.

2441
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As for like ray tracing add-in cards

2442
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I don't think we're going to see that either. I think that with how

2443
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integrated this ray tracing functionality

2444
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needs to be with the GPU. The fact that needs to read from the VRAM

2445
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or sorry, work with the VRAM as it's working memory.

2446
03:02:44,440 --> 03:02:48,440
These functional units are integral

2447
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to rendering. They're not going to be able to just be on an add-in card.

2448
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I don't think co-processors are coming back anytime soon

2449
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pretty much. Glad you love your commuter bag though.

2450
03:03:00,440 --> 03:03:04,440
Thanks for the great hoodie. Linus, have you ever had any ankle injuries playing

2451
03:03:04,440 --> 03:03:08,440
badminton? What was your rehabilitation routine like? I had my ankle injury

2452
03:03:08,440 --> 03:03:12,440
recently and it sucks. Ankle injuries playing badminton, no.

2453
03:03:12,440 --> 03:03:16,440
But I did injure my ankle at Luke's birthday party.

2454
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Which was a hot minute ago now and it still hurts.

2455
03:03:20,440 --> 03:03:24,440
Yeah, I'm really unimpressed

2456
03:03:24,440 --> 03:03:28,440
with that. It was so unnecessary. Just, it was

2457
03:03:28,440 --> 03:03:32,440
a mean nothing push for

2458
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no reason other than to just kind of shake up the field

2459
03:03:36,440 --> 03:03:40,440
where people were just standing at the backs going ping-pong-pong-pong at each other.

2460
03:03:40,440 --> 03:03:44,440
So I grabbed some noobs and I was like, okay, let's go, come on, let's do something interesting.

2461
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And I tried to slide behind cover and I was wearing

2462
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shoes with way more traction than what I normally wear at the paintball field

2463
03:03:52,440 --> 03:03:56,440
and I expected to slide and I didn't. I just went right over it.

2464
03:03:56,440 --> 03:04:00,440
It sucked. Anyway, I've been given

2465
03:04:00,440 --> 03:04:04,440
resistance band exercises. You know, go this way, this way, this way, this way,

2466
03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:08,440
this way, this way. Stand on a soft surface

2467
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and try to balance, stuff like that. Just try to build the strength back up.

2468
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Use, like, heat pads to increase blood flow to help

2469
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promote healing. All stuff you can kind of look up online.

2470
03:04:20,440 --> 03:04:24,440
Yeah, it sucks though. To wear a brace

2471
03:04:24,440 --> 03:04:28,440
for my tournament late last year because it was

2472
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not healing, but it's a fair bit better now, but it still cracks too much

2473
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and stuff and it still hurts sometimes. So it sucks.

2474
03:04:36,440 --> 03:04:40,440
And the last one I've got for you.

2475
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Hey, Luke. Great seeing you at ZTW.

2476
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Curious on your take for steps to help

2477
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combat session token theft, especially for people like streamers or YouTubers

2478
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who don't have enterprise tech or security stack.

2479
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Safe home. Mom and mom.

2480
03:05:04,440 --> 03:05:08,440
For YouTubers at a certain scale,

2481
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I think it would be fairly reasonable even if you're a small, like, one to two-bit outfit

2482
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because there are some one to two-bit outfits that are at enormous scales.

2483
03:05:16,440 --> 03:05:20,440
Once you have a big enough target on your back, I think it's decently reasonable

2484
03:05:20,440 --> 03:05:24,440
to look into advanced security things. Outside of that,

2485
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as an individual, like, at-home user, I don't know how much, like,

2486
03:05:28,440 --> 03:05:32,440
is realistic to do, to try to

2487
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protect yourself against those types of things.

2488
03:05:36,440 --> 03:05:40,440
And I also, to be honest, don't know

2489
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what the chances are that you're really going to be attacked by something like that.

2490
03:05:44,440 --> 03:05:48,440
Obviously, never say never.

2491
03:05:48,440 --> 03:05:52,440
Knock on wood, all those fun things, but

2492
03:05:52,440 --> 03:05:56,440
I mean, like, session cookie hijacking is not

2493
03:05:56,440 --> 03:06:00,440
a normal thing that hits random users

2494
03:06:02,440 --> 03:06:04,440
so often, you know.

2495
03:06:06,440 --> 03:06:10,440
I wouldn't freak out about it too much. Apparently, Simpsons tapped out is shut down.

2496
03:06:10,440 --> 03:06:14,440
I didn't even know that. Happened at the end of January.

2497
03:06:14,440 --> 03:06:18,440
What is that? Simpsons mobile game.

2498
03:06:18,440 --> 03:06:22,440
Oh. Yeah, EA shut it down. I had no idea.

2499
03:06:22,440 --> 03:06:26,440
All right. And now it's time to shut down this show.

2500
03:06:26,440 --> 03:06:30,440
We'll see you again next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel.

2501
03:06:30,440 --> 03:06:34,440
Bye. That was a weak bye.

2502
03:06:34,440 --> 03:06:36,440
Bye!

2503
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All right, I'm out here. Bye!
