WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.880 Buying a PC part-by-part can be tough. Thanks to modern branding. 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:12.260 It's impossible to know what's good, especially if you've been out of the loop for a while. 00:00:12.460 --> 00:00:17.920 What is the difference between a Ryzen 7, 7700, and 7700X? 00:00:18.080 --> 00:00:25.180 Should I save the dollar? Is an expensive motherboard really faster? And what's better between Super and XT? 00:00:25.180 --> 00:00:33.340 I know. I'm just gonna mosey on over to new egg and round up the best rated parts and see if the herd mentality 00:00:33.580 --> 00:00:40.020 Steers me wrong or lands me knee-deep in the newer, but first I gotta rustle up the segue 00:00:43.060 --> 00:00:48.120 To our sponsor first the rules we decided that to be a herd mentality part 00:00:48.460 --> 00:00:52.660 Every product we chose had to have five eggs. Good job, buddy 00:00:52.900 --> 00:00:58.380 We also decided that they needed at least a hundred reviews to ensure that they were proven performers 00:00:58.380 --> 00:01:04.860 And we filtered by in-stock so you know, you could actually be buying stuff. So drumroll, please 00:01:05.660 --> 00:01:12.660 Your CPU of choice is Intel's Core i7-12700K. I gotta say 00:01:13.220 --> 00:01:19.380 Way to go herd. I mean a couple of months back when we started compiling our list 00:01:19.380 --> 00:01:24.260 We were a little surprised to see you all sticking with tried-and-true 12th gen 00:01:24.500 --> 00:01:33.340 But since then it's emerged that 13th and 14th gen Intel chips have been susceptible to random crashing and even outright failure 00:01:33.340 --> 00:01:37.660 So we give up some speed sure, but we've still got 12 00:01:38.220 --> 00:01:42.340 Stable cores in our socket for around 260 bucks. Not bad 00:01:42.420 --> 00:01:47.900 In fact, the only thing people didn't like about it was that it fails to boot and then boots 00:01:48.500 --> 00:01:55.060 All right, then our other contender for the best-rated CPU was the AMD 7800X3D 00:01:55.060 --> 00:02:00.100 It ties the 4.9 egg rating, but given that it shares its 00:02:00.940 --> 00:02:08.300 636 reviews with two other chips. We couldn't very well give it the win even if we'd like to it is another hundred dollars 00:02:08.300 --> 00:02:14.680 And actually has four fewer cores, but those cores absolutely excel for gaming and its 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:17.680 AM5 socket is expected to be supported until at least 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:25.400 2027 making it a no-brainer for the gamers out there after adjusting our search parameters to include only compatible 00:02:26.200 --> 00:02:32.680 LGA1700 boards, MSI's Pro Z690A Wi-Fi DDR5 is our big winner 00:02:32.920 --> 00:02:36.160 Now this one's another aggregate review score 00:02:36.160 --> 00:02:40.480 So it's kind of hard to say which of those boards are the best reviewed ones 00:02:40.640 --> 00:02:47.880 But it comes up first in the results compared to its product page siblings and it gets wait only four and a half eggs 00:02:48.880 --> 00:02:54.240 Yep, this is our first piece that lands outside of our five egg target 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:59.160 But as it turns out that's as good as it gets for our motherboard and it might be alright 00:02:59.160 --> 00:03:04.840 I mean MSI won our shootout a few years back when we tried ten boards with one CPU 00:03:04.880 --> 00:03:08.040 And it's also got a healthy mix of features with lots of IO 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:12.640 PCIe Gen 5 for our graphics card decent expansion for later 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:20.080 RGB and Wi-Fi 6e so what's not to love about it? Well according to our one-egg reviewers 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:29.120 The ones that don't work Next up comes memory and after much deliberation we settled on the 64 gig 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:37.640 Fury beast kit from Kingston Why deliberation? Well, none of the five egg RAM kits had a lot of reviews 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:42.960 So we sorted by rating and lowered the threshold to 20 which put this one on top 00:03:43.880 --> 00:03:48.120 Unfortunately, it's my first real disappointment. I mean, it's not bad 00:03:48.200 --> 00:03:52.040 But does the average user in 2024 really need 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:57.760 64 gigs of RAM and at 6,000 megatransiters per second CL 36 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:02.200 It's not the greatest performing kit either, especially given we're spending 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:07.600 $220 bad reviews here focused mainly on their instability though 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:13.920 Realistically, that's probably more down to their motherboard choice or the memory controller on their CPU anyway 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:18.840 Another disappointment for us was our storage because while it is an m.2 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:22.400 NVMe drive, which should be plenty fast for the modern gamer 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:26.000 specifically, it's the Samsung 970 evo plus 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:34.400 500 gig that's not a lot of space for the modern gamer our one or two egg reviews here focused on it's a lack of longevity 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:39.360 lack of longevity and Especially lack of longevity though 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:46.720 It is worth noting that none of those reviews have shown up recently and we did find some form articles that seem to indicate that Samsung might have 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:57.920 Patched some bugs in this particular drive Speaking of situations that have changed recently our last part before we unveil our case is deep cools a g620 tower cooler 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:03.080 you um Can't buy these in the United States anymore on account of deep cool 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:08.320 Allegedly engaging in selling to Russian businesses and whatnot, but before that happened 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:15.840 We bought this fine five-egg cooler for just $61 and 50 cents since it's no longer listed on the US site 00:05:15.840 --> 00:05:22.280 Though we had to go to the Canadian website to get screen capture of the reviews where there weren't any reviews below four eggs 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:29.040 No complaints. You know what else you won't be complaining about our new intergalactic GPU poster from LTT Store.com 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:33.080 And the best thing is you can buy one without supporting the Russian war machine 00:05:34.520 --> 00:05:36.520 Now let's get all of this into the case 00:05:38.080 --> 00:05:43.840 Nice the fractal mesh if I to might not meet our four-point egg threshold anymore 00:05:43.840 --> 00:05:48.200 But it did when we ordered it and come on Joshua D 00:05:48.320 --> 00:05:52.080 That has nothing to do with the build quality of this fine case 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:56.200 It's got loads of room to work in rubber grommets for cable management 00:05:56.200 --> 00:06:01.720 It comes with fans and thanks to its mesh front panel. It should keep our components nice and cool 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:07.160 Also, luckily for us while it is on the expensive side at 160 US dollars 00:06:07.200 --> 00:06:12.320 The light tepid glass window option that we got is still on sale for just a hundred and ten 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:18.800 Complaints about it mostly centered on its lack of EATX support a lack of support for 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:23.520 420 millimeter radiators without removing the front fans and some stripped screws 00:06:23.880 --> 00:06:27.920 Now to get things powered up with a power supply from no, of course it is 00:06:28.640 --> 00:06:35.760 Seasonic, it's the Vertex GX 1000. This is a 1000 watt 80 plus gold fully modular power supply 00:06:35.760 --> 00:06:40.720 And what's not to love it was even on sale for a hundred and seventy bucks when we bought it 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.800 I think the only real criticism that I would level at the herd here is that 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.920 Kind of overkill. I mean, I haven't shown you guys the GPU yet 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:56.720 But we do not need a 1000 watt power supply and we could have saved some money if we'd gone with an 800 watt 00:06:57.200 --> 00:07:02.720 But I'm not the one making the rules today folks. Now the astute observers out there are probably yelling Linus 00:07:03.440 --> 00:07:08.720 That's not a hundred reviews. You cheated because you love Seasonic so much, but you know what I say to that 00:07:09.520 --> 00:07:17.120 Look again Boom the only one egg review for this thing was from someone who ordered the platinum rated variant 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:20.080 But got gold and that was probably new eggs fault 00:07:20.640 --> 00:07:23.280 That is some fine power supply making 00:07:23.840 --> 00:07:26.880 Now it's time at long last to talk GPU 00:07:27.440 --> 00:07:35.280 Love them or hate them ASUS takes this one with exactly 100 reviews on their 4070ti Super OC edition 00:07:35.760 --> 00:07:42.720 There's a lot to like about this guy 16 gigs of VRAM an elevated boost clock fourth gen tensor course third gen ray tracing course 00:07:42.880 --> 00:07:46.880 It's a great card no matter which brand you buy it from and ours was on sale 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.800 the one egg reviews here had to do with a doa product and 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.440 Surprise surprise a lack of customer support 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:03.280 And would you look at that? It's a pretty nice build at just over 1900 dollars 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:09.760 We've spent a lot of money, but we've also got a very competent high-end gaming rig. It looks good. It games good 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:16.880 But does it compete good? You see I've been hiding something from you this whole time 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:22.960 We built a second pc with our own choices with the goal of bleeding 00:08:23.760 --> 00:08:28.240 I mean beading the herd and 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:37.600 Okay, we went like $9 over budget, but come on. It's gonna be the best $9 you ever spent because I think we did awesome here 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:43.600 We've got a one terabyte gen 4 drive instead of 512 gigs. We upgraded our CPU 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:49.280 Remember, of course we were looking at parts before AMD launched Ryzen 9000 and put the 7000 series on promo 00:08:49.520 --> 00:08:55.120 But we've got half as much RAM running at a much faster speed and the best part gamers 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:59.920 We squeezed in a 4080 super instead of that 4070ti 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:04.000 Super now we did compromise a little bit on our eggs 00:09:04.160 --> 00:09:09.120 Most of them are in the four and a half range But some of them are even still five egg products 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.440 So we didn't do any weird bottom of the barrel dumpster diving in order to save that money 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:19.680 But enough chit chat Let's see how we did we'll kick things off with good old-fashioned Cinebench 00:09:19.680 --> 00:09:23.360 And wait, why do you get the good one because I chose the good one? 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:27.040 Mind you. I mean it's a miracle even finished the run so 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:32.720 yeah Okay, the microcode update is available now, but 00:09:33.760 --> 00:09:38.800 Uh Anyway, my 12th gen one definitely works. Yep, but what about games? 00:09:38.800 --> 00:09:41.680 Do you want to start with counter strike counter strike two? That's it 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:49.200 All right Now I'd like people to note that just because he gets more kills than me doesn't mean that his computer is that much better than me 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:54.960 He's just a much better gamer. Oh, we're totally in the same match. Let's go. Where are you at, buddy? 00:09:55.920 --> 00:09:59.120 I killed huge reaction No 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:04.320 Oh, I'm dead too. We died. Nice. I just got three in rapid succession here. I'm catching up. What's over? 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.040 What? Yeah matches over. Oh, are we in different matches? We must be because my match is over 00:10:09.680 --> 00:10:13.920 It looked like the same it loaded in at like the exact same time. Okay. You know what we haven't been doing 00:10:14.880 --> 00:10:18.880 Pay attention to the frame rate. Oh, right Uh 00:10:18.880 --> 00:10:21.680 Wow, they're really close. I'm sitting at like 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:27.360 270 FPS. I mean mine fluctuates a lot. It goes from like 220 to 320 00:10:27.920 --> 00:10:34.080 293 280 Let's see you're killed the death ratio though. Oh my god. That's the real mark of a gaming rig 00:10:34.560 --> 00:10:39.600 Yeah, that's how that works. I'm a little surprised that you're not getting any extra on the 280 super 00:10:39.680 --> 00:10:47.280 This is 4k basically cranked right? Yeah, but counter strike is really CPU bound and as much as the 1300 k is a little better 00:10:47.520 --> 00:10:54.160 Yeah, not really. It's not that much better, right? I'm certainly not in like single threaded performance. Yeah, my GPU peaked at 62 00:10:54.880 --> 00:10:58.240 Okay, so they're pretty close. Yeah, mine's also around 62. Okay. Okay. All right 00:10:58.800 --> 00:11:03.360 Let's halo infinite halo infinite. Sure. Okay. All right. Let's go. Let's go. Okay. I like this gun 00:11:05.040 --> 00:11:09.120 Okay, I'm at 120 you're at one. Oh, yeah, I'm clearly in the lead. It's not a lot 00:11:10.560 --> 00:11:18.240 I would say that It's enough that in a pretty bad situation. You're gonna have a slight edge for smoothness 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:23.520 But both of these are extremely playable. Yeah, I don't think this one's gonna be that close 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:29.520 I mean with ray tracing on I'm actually losing right now go the way buddy 00:11:30.640 --> 00:11:36.160 Hey Hey, I'm driving here. Okay, you know what now it's pretty I am winning 00:11:36.880 --> 00:11:40.560 Like I know we're not in the same spot, but I'm getting like 30 pretty consistently 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:46.800 Whereas you're at like a consistent 24. This is a pretty solid machine, man. They're both good. Yeah, they're both good 00:11:46.880 --> 00:11:57.040 That's a quite a bit better Measurably better. I mean, okay when it's this low of an FPS. Yeah seven FPS six FPS. That's like more than 10 percent. Yeah 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:04.720 but They're both the brown the same like realistically 32 to 27 FPS if I had both of these in front of me 00:12:04.800 --> 00:12:12.080 I wouldn't be able to tell Yeah, you're right. Okay. All right. All right. You built a better machine. Okay. You want a cookie? Yes 00:12:12.560 --> 00:12:16.160 Give cookie, please If I can't even like 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:24.560 Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, I wonder what your one percent. Oh, yeah. See my one percent are pretty consistently 30 30 plus 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:29.920 Yeah, whereas you're dipping into like 24 territory for your one percent lows. That's that big difference right there 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:34.880 Realistically you'd be pretty happy with either of these. I think the herd did a great job 00:12:35.040 --> 00:12:41.200 But ploof system does show how important it is to prioritize a bigger GPU and faster memory 00:12:41.520 --> 00:12:46.720 I also think we could have gotten better bang for the buck if we didn't care about buying into a modern platform 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:54.480 Something like a 5800 x 3d with some higher end ddr4 and a cheap am4 motherboard makes for a wicked value gaming system 00:12:54.640 --> 00:12:57.520 And would give you even more money to spend on your GPU 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:04.560 So, yeah, it's a tad overpriced for what you get But you can't fault the quality and if you want to buy anything that you saw here today 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:09.520 Well, except maybe that deep cool cooler We're gonna have links in the video description 00:13:09.680 --> 00:13:14.320 And the big conclusion here is that in spite of all the attempts to spread misinformation 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:17.600 Online reviews still largely serve their purpose 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:24.160 You just might have to sift a little bit and do some research to really find the absolute best bang for your buck 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:29.600 Oh and make sure to shop around because you never know when you might find a deal somewhere or free shipping 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:36.000 Or a segue to today's sponsor If you guys enjoyed this video, maybe check out the last time we did this 00:13:36.160 --> 00:13:39.680 The pc landscape sure has changed in the last couple of years