WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.860 All right, so I am here with James Schreib. All right, James. What do you do for the company? I'm head of writing 00:00:07.660 --> 00:00:10.860 Do I get to hold this at any point? Do I have to keep leaning in? Yeah. Yeah, I'm 00:00:11.740 --> 00:00:14.220 I'm just gonna I'll come in closer. I'll come in closer. All right 00:00:14.820 --> 00:00:20.060 All right, is it close enough? Yes, excellent. All right. Look at this bell guy 00:00:21.900 --> 00:00:25.900 Cloth All right, so about sorry. Sorry, so James 00:00:25.900 --> 00:00:29.260 I'm just asking, you know, everyone in the company what their thoughts on AI is and 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:33.300 Ask you the first question, which is what's your thought in the current state of AI? 00:00:34.980 --> 00:00:36.980 Current state of AI is I 00:00:37.980 --> 00:00:43.520 Think a lot of fantasy stuff going on. It's people getting very excited about what's going to be in the future 00:00:44.900 --> 00:00:49.260 Well, it's actually the capabilities. They are still a bit limited. However, they're 00:00:49.660 --> 00:00:55.740 They're crazy. You were two years ago or three years ago like the transformational especially the AI art space like that's already 00:00:56.500 --> 00:01:00.060 pretty damn good And pretty damn disruptive and scary 00:01:02.100 --> 00:01:07.340 But there's headlines all the time like chat GPT gets 50% of engineering questions wrong or like, you know 00:01:07.340 --> 00:01:09.980 It's not reliable yet. There's too many hallucinations 00:01:11.060 --> 00:01:17.060 But that's not to say it's not useful. It's helping people learn code is helping people code faster write faster send emails faster 00:01:17.140 --> 00:01:22.620 So if it never improves beyond what we have today, it's still useful if it does improve 00:01:23.060 --> 00:01:26.820 It's both terrifying and very exciting 00:01:27.260 --> 00:01:31.700 So are you do you think you're more for it or for or against it or? 00:01:32.780 --> 00:01:36.740 I'm not really for slowing down technology ever 00:01:37.300 --> 00:01:45.580 There need to be guardrails regulations There's some things that are just so truly scary though that I don't know how we're gonna cope as a society as like a just a little 00:01:45.820 --> 00:01:52.900 Monkey brain society who just loves outrage and just takes things at face value and just doesn't read you on the headlines 00:01:52.900 --> 00:01:57.420 I have no idea how we're gonna deal with deep fakes a generative 00:01:57.740 --> 00:02:02.460 political videos There's no I don't like the idea of a post-truth world 00:02:03.140 --> 00:02:06.900 there's already countries that live in post-truth media landscapes and 00:02:07.620 --> 00:02:15.180 Since 2016 the West is getting more and more like that and that is just a dangerous and toxic world to live in and I 00:02:15.580 --> 00:02:21.180 Figure that a lot of it generative AI just sends us beating down that canyon 00:02:21.900 --> 00:02:25.620 Which is very scary But on the other hand 00:02:25.620 --> 00:02:27.620 There's lots of things to be excited about 00:02:29.620 --> 00:02:34.980 I just remember the movie her and just like how it's gonna be eventually. I'll be normalized to have AI 00:02:35.740 --> 00:02:41.460 Romantic relationships. It's like some of the stuff is really scary inside a fertility rates are already dropped. We've been dropping for 50 years 00:02:41.980 --> 00:02:43.980 I don't know. We might just not survive 00:02:44.980 --> 00:02:47.740 Fair enough. Okay, so then in the case we do survive 00:02:48.260 --> 00:02:53.540 Are you worried about your job because I feel like a lot of people who talk about AI say that the first thing job is gonna 00:02:53.540 --> 00:02:58.940 Go as writers, right? And is that something that you worry about or is that something like you think it's like all just like 00:02:59.020 --> 00:03:03.340 There's people like just talking or something that or I think that 00:03:04.980 --> 00:03:11.740 Creative industries definitely are at risk. I think it's gonna be similar to other industries like perhaps the effects where 00:03:12.500 --> 00:03:19.940 You've got There's humans still doing the job, but there's fewer of them because the human is doing it can do so much faster now 00:03:20.540 --> 00:03:27.100 But I think we're gonna see things change and adapt. I think we're gonna see a lot more like identity driven personality driven 00:03:28.020 --> 00:03:37.300 content like influencers Like Linus who you love and have a parasocial relationship with that's gonna just become even more of a thing 00:03:37.900 --> 00:03:44.100 Because in a couple of years the majority of the content on the internet is going to be from AI and you're not even going to know 00:03:44.100 --> 00:03:50.900 That it's from AI and we're gonna have to figure out identity online and whether that's a blockchain thing or some kind of centralized 00:03:52.060 --> 00:03:54.220 I don't know identity system 00:03:55.300 --> 00:04:04.580 Blue check marks We're gonna have to figure out a way to know like oh actual humans said that not just a very convincing bot with a political agenda 00:04:04.980 --> 00:04:09.980 So I think we would probably just see a switch in culture about like who we listen to 00:04:10.740 --> 00:04:15.820 And what we find entertaining stuff and by the way, we're going to listen to and find entertaining 00:04:16.140 --> 00:04:21.820 Bots vTubers that we know are artificial. We're still gonna like them even though they're artificial 00:04:21.820 --> 00:04:25.020 I don't know for oh, yeah, will my job be a risk if I was in high school right now 00:04:25.020 --> 00:04:29.420 I would be I'd be doing trades for sure I could I'd be like, oh, yeah 00:04:29.900 --> 00:04:33.220 Carpenter in a welding like well, I don't even know welding but 00:04:34.660 --> 00:04:38.220 Something the robots are 15 years behind the AI is right now 00:04:38.220 --> 00:04:44.740 I think so some something practical that you can help with would definitely be a little more secure than a purely creative job 00:04:46.740 --> 00:04:52.820 But I'm hoping that as they I get sufficiently advanced then we'll have some kind of universal bit basic income and all work less 00:04:52.940 --> 00:04:57.460 although I'm not optimistic that this will happen because you know 00:04:57.460 --> 00:05:03.500 certain certain political persuasion that seem to be winning for the last 10 years and it's really 00:05:03.980 --> 00:05:12.820 society is getting very stratified and Billionaires are gobbling up more and more. There doesn't seem to be any kind of thrust for anti-trust or breaking up 00:05:13.980 --> 00:05:17.820 Oligopolis in the United States That's why all the companies are getting bigger 00:05:17.820 --> 00:05:23.460 All the little players getting pushed out the middle class is shrinking and they're just gobbling up the money 00:05:23.460 --> 00:05:26.180 So I don't really the government's just sitting on their ass 00:05:26.460 --> 00:05:33.120 So I really think that the odds are there'll be just a few more billionaires and a billion more 00:05:33.500 --> 00:05:41.860 People in poverty that have a great AR All right, but then have you used AI before like any like tap GPT mid-journey? 00:05:41.860 --> 00:05:47.420 I think that have you tried it like it then like a thing like that or did you just say cat GPT? 00:05:48.740 --> 00:05:59.380 That's a check cat. I don't know that's gotta exist I'm I've dabbled less than I'd like to I really wish I could say it's been my hobby for last eight months on Friday nights to have a 00:06:00.140 --> 00:06:06.100 Glass of scotch and mess around with chat GPT. I've very I've used it very seldom. I've used it to like 00:06:06.940 --> 00:06:11.140 Convert things instead of it doing text to call them in Excel because that's annoying 00:06:11.140 --> 00:06:15.400 I just tell me tell me all the weeks in the year and remove this it's sometimes fast 00:06:15.400 --> 00:06:20.460 But actually I've been using chat GPT at home quite a bit. Um, it's great for like meal planning 00:06:20.460 --> 00:06:25.660 It's great for when you have a very specific question that the internet like you just know sometimes you Google something 00:06:25.660 --> 00:06:34.480 You're like, please someone has to have asked this question online I hope there's a form thread about my specific case, but there often isn't so it's really nice to just be able to ask like 00:06:34.540 --> 00:06:40.500 Hey in the region I live in does the electrical code require that in an attic this? 00:06:40.700 --> 00:06:46.800 You know like just something really specific or something's more general to like if I'm shopping for of 00:06:47.580 --> 00:06:51.900 Smoker, what are the five things to look for and they'll tell you like, you know 00:06:51.900 --> 00:06:57.060 The dimensions of quality that are important for that product that you know nothing about it's great to get like a quick lay of the land 00:06:57.740 --> 00:07:00.940 Yeah, no, I use it for like like sort of example 00:07:00.940 --> 00:07:05.620 Like I want to look up a diet for like my for someone my age my height and my weight 00:07:05.620 --> 00:07:09.100 And that and it's like tells me oh you should do this or like if I won't do a workout 00:07:09.100 --> 00:07:13.940 And I was like, oh, what's the best workouts for like this muscle group and will give me like a good list or stuff 00:07:13.940 --> 00:07:17.820 So yeah, I've been using for that. But yeah, I like it using like a alternative Google 00:07:17.820 --> 00:07:20.720 I guess this is interesting. I have a friend who works at a large 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:25.880 Company in the dating app space and they told me they are working on 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:36.160 Basically a matchmaker based on an LLM So instead of you just like swiping and swiping and swiping you just tell it like I'm looking for someone who does this and this and this 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:45.080 And you know about all these things about me So this this AI will know a lot about each user and what each user wants and be able to match them that way 00:07:45.080 --> 00:07:51.700 It's like that actually sounds like clutch if it if that was designed properly. It could make dating very efficient 00:07:51.700 --> 00:07:56.060 Yeah, yeah, because most people what I wanted my date efficiency in my love life 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.480 You need this now. Oh, I need this now 00:08:01.080 --> 00:08:06.360 Because it's like, you know, people just like this, you know, that's that's the AI currently in the dating space 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:16.200 That was me in college All right, so then as a tech company that we are a kind of tech company slash entertainment company or slash creative 00:08:16.200 --> 00:08:22.360 I guess do you think that we should be using AI and at any level or do you think we should like just not be using it because it's like 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:25.560 kind of standing come protecting our jobs anything about or 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:32.560 Yeah, we're not in like a union field. So like that job security solidarity thing 00:08:32.560 --> 00:08:36.280 I don't think makes sense for us. I think basically every organization should be using 00:08:36.640 --> 00:08:40.400 Whatever new tools come to light. I mean if it's for 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:44.920 Transcribing meetings summarizing a meeting that you missed 00:08:45.680 --> 00:08:51.240 Making emails. I know that some creators are using it for a community posts like 00:08:52.040 --> 00:08:58.360 Just hey, can you make a community post that advertises this giveaway that we're gonna do and say make this point this fit this point 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:03.320 And it just maybe that's not their forte They're an engineer and they're great a great maker 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:08.760 But they're not great at word crafting some things if they can allow your team to be smaller and increase your output 00:09:08.760 --> 00:09:12.840 Yeah, you should be using that you should be using it to make your emails more polite or like 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:20.200 If you're on the support team, you should be using it to make templates for you or reply with boilerplate 00:09:21.280 --> 00:09:25.800 Yeah, every organization should be using it's it's like asking us like should you guys be on the internet, you know 00:09:25.800 --> 00:09:30.720 Like oh you guys you're you're a book publishing company. Obviously you love type writing 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.640 Should you guys get on the internet and like yes? 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:41.920 Always adopting technology Okay, so is there anything else you want to mention to the float planers? 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:48.440 Like yeah, I'm I'm calling a new term. It's people who subscribe to total plane full planers. They're called flow plane 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:52.520 That's not even a new term. Is it float planers? I don't know is it not 00:09:53.400 --> 00:09:55.840 I tried to like, you know how there's like 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:00.600 Believers and there's like little monsters or Lady Gaga fans all these things 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.440 I tried to get a name like that for like LMG fans 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:08.280 No lines was not into it. I couldn't think of a good name like tech tippers 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:15.280 Techies or like even even our us the staff like Googlers. We don't have like a staff name either 00:10:15.280 --> 00:10:18.920 I don't know. Let us know the comments. Oh you got some ideas 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:26.120 There's a chat with LMG partners and it's called LMG Fs 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:32.800 LMG Fs, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. No, I'm holding the mic. All right. I'm getting out of here. Thank you 00:10:32.800 --> 00:10:36.400 All right. All right. Bye. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry 00:10:36.400 --> 00:10:41.960 Is anything you want to mention say anything that we didn't make topic-wise we didn't maybe cover or I 00:10:45.800 --> 00:10:50.520 Mean it's such a vast topic like What is it? 00:10:51.160 --> 00:10:57.640 Excited for it nervous for it think it's I think like that. Yeah. Yeah, generally excited Jen. Generally excited. Um, I 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:02.560 Don't yeah This is cut this out 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:12.360 No, this is uncut version All right, we'll cut it there. Thank you very much. Bye flow planers James leave him, but I'm gonna keep waving. I'm committed a bit 00:11:13.880 --> 00:11:15.880 Bye