Okay, I don't think so. It doesn't seem like it. You're not alive. Yeah, but he actually seems to just be extremely confused and to have hurt himself in his confusion
What's up, y'all?
Yeah, yeah, I Accidentally started a Twitter feud again. It's been a while so I was kind of I was kind of overdue
I just I don't know. I just kind of thought it was pretty obvious
Yes, people do use plex and yes, it is more convenient than going to a rental store
What are you talking about? I want to type something it's like almost certainly fine, but I'm gonna type it out. Oh just put it at the top of the dock. Oh
No, he's typing it in an iPad because why would he send it to me digitally when he can send it to me physically by me?
Putting my neck at an unnatural angle. Oh
Weird my Floatplane chest not working I assume that's the problem because I assume Floatplane chat is rowdy as usual. How you guys doing there? It is
nice What are we are we not red enough for you?
Where we're red enough for them They're like in the red
Mod mat will come when the mod mat is ready. It's like a wizard. I
I
Would ask him not me that's fair enough. I didn't think about it until now, but cool. I'm message. Yep
That's that's I don't know. It is very fair. Yep
Yeah, what I will say is you were right to wonder
Yeah, the correct course of action. You were right to think that maybe I should not just say it. Yeah
Yeah, cool. I had the thought of like, oh, yeah, that was like kind of fun. I should mention that and I was like, hmm
I don't know if they want that Kansa says Linus is not a fan of people spam tagging him. Have I ever said that?
I've never heard that I Don't think I've ever said that I'm very likely to just ignore it fake news. I am Jesus
We're red
It's not a hat Luke, it's not a hat Jesus
Oh my goodness, I
Think you need to get your display calibrated sure that's red brother. That's like really red. I mean, maybe it's me
Maybe oh, is this TV output the same stream output because it's pretty red there too. Yeah, it's a little pink on there
All my monitors are like weird colors. Kansa says you have yelled at me before
During COVID when streaming among us because I asked five or six times about difficulty. Okay, so that's the thing
This is a different problem If you tag me and you ask a question that I have seen and already decided not to answer because I
Do see stuff then Tagging me a bunch more times about it is not going to make it more likely to get a response. I mostly just it's kind of like ads
I mostly actually don't really see tags. So that's that that's the thing
And don't worry, we're good I like completely forgot don't worry we're chill Kansa. We're good
Hmm. Yeah, this is pink
See pink red
The color grading is weird way to go Dan
The story of that thing was pretty was pretty fun. So hopefully hopefully he wants me to talk what?
That's Zeme says have you banned anyone yet on reddit? No, I actually didn't even realize because I hadn't tried to do it
That I did not even have user banning privileges. I
Don't know man. It's one of those things where it's just like
That was the funniest part for me to read the stuff on reddit afterwards was realizing like
Oh, man I remember thinking like the comments on the show were gonna be about something else
And I went to go check the comments and read it and then it was just like a bunch about that
And I just got very uninterested very fast
Okay, I think dozens of people were really upset about it
There's like some topic that I thought there'd be some comments about that. I was interested
I don't remember what it was now, but yeah, nope
Some reddit mod stuff Okay, I don't know. It's one of those things like I'm in communication
With our former community manager who now has another job here
But is still doing some community management and the reddit moderation team and everything's gonna be fine
And everyone can can really take a deep breath and relax. That's all cool. It's just yeah
Yeah, I don't know man, you know how long I've been a super admin on the LTT forum
You know how many people I've banned dude and the and you know and the people we haven't been
Maybe more telling me Yeah, to be honest. I I I don't know I have to imagine it's it's probably worse
But I don't I don't know what the reddit moderation team has to go through but it's probably rough and I commend them for managing it
Yeah, I ever sent I've seen more way back in the day, but I try to
Keep some amount of an eye on the forum And the forum moderation team is awesome. Yeah, a lot of them have been doing it forever
Like I don't I'm not trying to diminish that at all. Nope the thing that I'm trying to diminish is like
The potential Like the weight that some people seem to bear on the like oh my god
I've been banned From life is over from a subreddit. Oh, no
It's like dude. You're probably fine
move on
Whether you're right or wrong if you're in the wrong teachable moment move on you're good if you were right
Not a teachable movement moment move on you're good
You'll be fine. I don't know. I think you'll be okay. I think that
You know, uh I do think for some people it is not that simple though
like Literally what what reddit or the forum or social media like it or not
What it is for a lot of people is their community And I don't I'm not saying you have to like that
But you do kind of have to Oh, yeah, sorry, you do kind of have to like yeah, it's red get it
What what is the problem right now? What are people confused?
No, I don't want to give it back to you. I like it. It's cute. No, no, no, no take it. I take it. I don't want it
And now you can check to see if I did it, right?
Yeah, I see yes was a lot of ai this year, man I
Guess I guess I can't really relate. I've never been banned from a community. I don't know
Right. Have you tried not being a douchebag in a community? So that probably worked pretty great
That was good
I don't know
Yeah, it doesn't seem that complicated to me. I don't I have I ever been I've probably been banned from somewhere for something
I don't think I have Surely I must have I've been temporary banned from games
Just for like being too good
I usually assume that's where he's going with something like this. I think I have no, okay
So my my dad got yeah, I got like banned from like, you know
the Mexican beach erection challenge because I was just too hard like
You know, it's usually how his stories go
Oh my god, I remember my my dad's wow account got permabanned because
Way back in like high school I figured out that you could speed hack in like almost every game
by Not almost every game but a lot of games at the time by messing around with your system clock
Nice. So if you if you made your system clock go twice as fast
Your movement speed and a lot of games counter strike. Wow tons of different games were based on your local system clock
Yeah, so In wow, I would just go to places where there would be like
Basically, no one like I get like water walking and run on the ocean and just
And just do that instead of like flying around because it was way faster
Right, but then my dad was like lol. I'm going to do this in a capture the flag match
Uh and grab the flag and just ran around and no one could catch him
Super cop
And then he was like mad afterwards I was like you can't come on
Teachable moment Oh man
Someone says I've been banned from r slash pyeongyang. Oh, that's like a whole meme. Oh, is it? Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, it shows you what I know
Oh, I did Is it banned? I don't know if I'm banned from getting a comp ts certificate
But I did get my certificate revoked
Um I do says I've only been banned from subreddits. I never posted in that's a thing
Yeah, where you'll just get banned in other ones for having yeah for even being part. That's the pyeongyang one. Oh, is it?
Yeah, what do you get banned for doing?
Uh, I think it's posting like almost anywhere. Isn't it?
Yeah, I think it's basically like if you're not in the if you're not in this subreddit
you're Not ever allowed in this subreddit. I guess
I don't know. Hmm. I'm not sure interesting. I'm sure someone can explain it
I got banned from my city subreddit because I said exploiting people for money is bad
So one said that's how capitalism works. I said you're not supposed to think about that
Okay Okay, should we do this?
Uh All right
It's great Uh, oh, I guess I should move this
there Yeah
Uh, do I have the right right right? I need to bring up the thing
Super weird issue on this laptop where if I middle click
Like my clicks don't register a bit for a bit in certain places particularly like in like browser tabs and stuff
It's really weird. I want to like reformat it. I think it's got to be just like, uh
Like just a bizarre corruption somewhere or something
Uh I have to log in. Sorry, it'll be half an hour
Oh
Oh, it was a one click. Oh, dude, I get like
I get like a I get like a dopamine hit
When I go to to sign into our password manager and it just like doesn't prompt me to do the whole rigmarole
That's like nine steps Oh, so good
I think we are going to be moot. Mm-hmm Don't you promise me anything that you can't actually give me say no things please
No, it's mostly I just don't want to like announce it
Um, no, I don't believe in securities through obscurity, but also don't think I need to tell you everything that's happening all the time
So Yeah, there's probably something happening that you will probably be happy about and that's about all I'll say for now
We take kind of uh, it's kind of a non. Yeah approach
To this Yep
But it's us luke, it's okay. No bad
Band Kidding kidding kidding kidding
I think we've banned very few people from Floatplane chat. Nice. Nice. Steve took the bait non your business
Yeah
Got him now a cloud player service
We can be your third factor you have to ask Floatplane chat for permission to log into things
They're like watching the stream like Yeah, it doesn't look like a deep fake. I think we're good to go. Yeah
That would actually be oh It's an interesting service
Like like mechanical turk like people just like
Looking through the webcam and you hold up id like what are you even talking about? Yeah, man
Yeah, okay really high-level executive accounts celebrity 2fa you like can't log in if you're yeah
If you're like super fans can recognize you then you're you're good to withdraw that money from your bank account
I'm more talking about like corporate bigwig CEOs like multi billion dollar corporation CEOs
Where like they actually can't log into things unless people are like, yeah, sure
I feel personally targeted right now it'd be great
You had that one coming. Yeah, that's fair. I shouldn't have leaned though. That's just mean
Yeah, especially because I have to like almost constantly sniff
Hey, nice Gilmore says shout out Mitchell for upholding the trust me bro guarantee
Yeah, magic screwdriver showed up defective. He got another one on its way to me. You better believe it
But now he's gonna take care of you And if you haven't seen his AMD ultimate tech upgrade that won't make any sense. It did make sense to me
nice Um, okay. All right. I'm gonna do the thing
I don't have to think you'll have to tell me when to start talking. Is the steam machine price leak in the dock
Oh, no, but yeah, I would throw that in there. Okay. Yeah, we can talk about that
Guess what I'm shoot. Okay. No, I'll save it. I'll save it. Yeah
I mean the selected talking to me is illegal
No, I think it's more that you listening is illegal
I think you've been on your phone more the last couple shows than like I haven't wanted to be genuinely
There have been multiple topics that I'm like, okay I'm stalling for as long as I can here before I can
Do a quick summary because I know Luke's not listening
And then ask him a question people have really decided that it's extremely important to talk to me during the show
Or that like oh this thing that I've been trying to tell you for a while
I have to tell you right now. You need to know it right now. It's really important and then I check it and it's like
Do you like waffles? I'm like, oh my I'm gonna die. Yeah, we like waffles. Do you like pancakes?
Yeah, we like pancakes. Do you like french toast? Yeah, we like french toast. Doot. Doot. Doot. Doot. Can't wait to get a muffle
But yeah, it's been driving me actually insane, but anyways, hopefully this will be a no phone show that would be great
All right Okay, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm getting texted. Very cool. I'm freezing. All right. Oh, that might actually I did the thing
It's too late. God damn it
Happy Friday everyone and oh welcome to the wandshow. We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week
Samsung is under fire for watching what you're watching roughly
Twice every second and sharing that information with their partners. Yeah
Yeah, not great. Um, our headline topic is of course though that youtube has met its match
government regulation, that's right Vietnam has laid the smackdown on youtube banning unskippable ads or at least
limiting how long unskippable ads can run on platforms like youtube
I'm sure that is welcome news to the people in vietnam. What else we got this week
The fastest version of Windows is probably
Not what you'd expect and also Disney undercuts decades of incredible filmmaking technology with one of the weirdest worst videos
I've maybe ever seen why did you pick that that actually caused me a certain amount of existential dread
Because the person presenting it for some reason seemed to think that it was cool
Which hurt my soul
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I remember now. Oh my god. I made it white for the reboot last week. What a professional professional show
I'm confident
Yeah, the new new and improved wend show now 50 50 owned by Linus and luke already things are going down
How do you explain this? This is this is my fault for sure
Someone tried to pin like an increased amount of ads on me or something
Try Colton. Yeah Ah, man, let's jump right into our headline topic today, which is of course
Vietnam's new rules limiting how long unskippable ads can run on platforms like youtube
Uh, basically they uh, they said they suck and the rules are going to be targeting not only unskippable video ads
But also targeting static ads and even putting bands on delays
Before closing them these new rules are aimed at helping the user experience
claiming that these invasive ads are harming the viewing experience, which is um
I mean interesting probably not not
Not untrue. I think there's I mean, yeah, I don't think you could find anyone on the face of the earth and
Oh man, I'm bracing myself now I'm sure someone is going to come crawling out of the woodwork from somewhere to say
Um, actually I love to be informed of quality products and services that could enhance my life
But I don't think almost literally anyone would say yes
The ads on a platform enhance the user's enhance my user experience. Yeah, no
I think the bigger question here though is
What does this mean in terms of platform sustainability? I don't think it's any great secret that youtube relies
In a significant way on ads to make their platform profitable
Um, does it seem like a business decision?
How much and where to run ads? Um, and to find that balance between what users will put up with and what is
Sustainable in terms of profitably operating the platform um
Would you be like let's let's turn it around and let's make it about our own stuff
Would you be willing to operate Floatplane in vietnam if for whatever reason they said hey your means of
Monetizing your platform We're over it. It's not good for users to have to pay for Floatplane. It just needs to be free to be fair. Yeah
That's not quite what they're saying. No, no, they're not saying that they're saying you can run ads
But I can tell you right now So what what do you think so like I can tell you that the kind of ads that they're going to allow are like not
profitable in modern internet When you account for the video streaming bandwidth like it's and storage. It's just not like not a thing
You think so this to me feels like they're going back to like five second ad skips
Which youtube had for a long time when they were profitable They did but I mean
We did I don't know if you remember we did that video on it was it was a very controversial topic of conversation
Which I don't seem to be able to resist why 4k should be a premium feature on youtube storage has not continued
To grow exponentially in capacity
Any or sorry this one. It has not continued to grow exponentially in capacity anymore. It leveled off
Ages ago in terms of cost per gig and the recent ai boom is not freaking helping with that
I forget I forget who mentioned this to me recently, but they were telling me that like
like major Major players like hyperscaler players are struggling to get enough hard drives right now
Yeah, there's like envoys from people like microsoft going to
Various countries trying to get hard drives and RAM and stuff in person trying to like show up at factories and be like, hey
We need stuff So it's it's a pretty it's a very interesting thing going on right now that isn't being it's being talked about but not like
As much as I would necessarily expect considering the
Scale of what's currently happening if that makes sense
I think monday's that Mondesio
On Floatplane has a really interesting take You know what if all ads on every platform had to be short then advertisers would have to compete for
Having a really compelling ad in a very short period of time and theoretically that would impact the
You know the pricing of ads across the board and it wouldn't really harm the platforms as much and that is
such A cool point that would require so much
Coordination and international cooperation that unfortunately it's just not going to happen. I don't think so. I like it though a great example of that
It actually happened recently around taxation for the ultra wealthy and I think particularly for corporations. I think it was
Um, I believe they were they were targeting a 15 percent minimum corporate tax rate
globally and there was there was like a ton of countries signed onto it
And then recently I think this was in the last week or two the us basically went. No
Um, and the idea behind it was that it would make it much harder for major corporations to just
Dodge taxes by making their headquarters
Somewhere that they could pretty much avoid ever actually making a profit and where they could they could they could shield their profitability
But it required everyone to agree
on having these rules and expecting
every jurisdiction all around the world to cooperate on something as
Don't take this the wrong way, but frankly unimportant as
ads in front of a web video when they couldn't even agree on
Hey, probably major corporations should be taxed
Um, you know for the good of there are there are less
billion and trillionaires involved in
This one so you know it has that going for it, but yeah, I agree with you
Maker boy says I saw a ticker ad across the bottom of a video today
The creator said they were trying something new the ad did not interrupt the video at all
I can tell you something though Part of the reason that you noticed it was because it was new over time
You will learn to tune out the ticker ad which is why the advertising industry is always looking for
Novel ideas. That's why it's always changing and
I hate to use the word evolving because it has like a positive connotation when I say that bulbasaur evolved
You expect to get vine whip, you know or razor whatever whatever the point is
You expect bulbasaur to be better Whereas I feel like when ads evolve
They get more intrusive. Yeah, which is a kind of better gain audio. Well, I guess that's more intrusive. Yeah
Say something what?
Like so they are they are better in terms of
being Super effective at penetrating your ability to pay attention to what you actually want to be doing
I'm trying to find an example, but I'm pretty sure uh garbage time. Mr. Mr. Dang pods did this recently
um with with some stuff on his channel to promote like flow plane and whatnot he did like kind of
Banner things whatever those are actually called. I don't remember
But cool. It's interesting. Thank you. Luke interesting move
Um I mean and all of this
Ignore the fact that youtube is able to function basically as a monopoly at this point
Right like in theory in theory. I'm pretty pro free market
Right like you live or die by your ability to compete
Fairly, but that last part right the f word there. That's that's sort of the critical part
And youtube is at the point now where whether it's through their technological moat
Or whether it's through their regulatory moat or whether it's through their
Uh, their business relationships moat
What would fair competition with youtube even look like so so you could say well if users don't like how many ads
There are on youtube then they should just take their business somewhere else, but like to what what can compete with youtube microsoft has tried
um There's like msn video
Um, which like what's that like weird one that we uploaded to for daily motion daily motion has tried vimeo tried
Vimeo has completely given up on being an alternative to youtube at this point as far as I can tell for years now
Does daily motion still exist? This is an interesting question
Daily motion has your channel on
Daily motion totally still exists. Okay, so every piece has vine. Okay
all right Okay, yeah rumble sure
Wow daily motion has shorts
And it's the first thing you see when you get to the site. Wow, it's all
Watch mojo's on there. Where's where's look up line of tech tips? Hold on. Hold on. I just want to I want to see
Do they do they have view counts? Do they have view counts? Hold on if you click on one, maybe. Yeah, let's check. Let's check
No, okay. Okay player interface is a little different. So it's only up here
I can't I can interface with it down here. Is there are there do they have comments?
Are there are are there comments on daily motion?
Here draper stunned by whatever 10 months ago. Let's see
Uh Apparently not
Either that or there's content here that is getting literally zero views. Yeah
I don't understand how these guys are still around
There's a connect button on the top right. I think yeah, that's just to log in
Let's see. Okay. Sorry. You want me to click on mojo? No line is tech tips. Oh, right, right, right, right
Yeah, we used to have a channel dude. You've got some followers
Whoa buddy 357. Yeah, so we could be the 358th
It looks like the last time we uploaded to this was wanshow. Oh my god, august 4th 2017
It's baby luke It's baby luke. Look at the baby luke. He's so cute
Dude, I liked that that logo with the planes. I thought that was cool. Super cool
Is it baby luke? Where was this? That's a thick laptop
Oh Dude arc. Is that's a arkham asylum? Yeah. No. No, hold on. This might be arkham city
I don't I don't know the difference between the games at all to be honest. Yeah, I think this has got to be arkham city
I only ever launched them for benchmarking. Nice. You didn't really? Yep. Oh dude arkham asylum is so good
I heard they were good games. Yeah, I just never came around like oh, it's apparently arkham origins. Okay. Sorry. Sorry guys
Which that's the third one. I think right. I did not get into that one
Dude, look at you looking like a rapper on stage. What's this unboxing the rx vega? Look at you. Yeah, buddy
Yeah, buddy. That was at the first ltx
So anyway, the point is we uploaded to daily motion for years and managed to amass a total of
350 followers, so Um, is that sustainable? How do they have this many uploads and storage and?
Um everything who owns daily motion. What is it? I'm finding out. I'm finding out
French online video sharing platform owned by canal plus
Prior to 2024 it was owned by vivendi
Like that vivendi
What do you mean that vivendi isn't it wasn't vivendi uh gaming of some sort back in the day?
Oh, no wait. Hold on. I must be thinking of a completely different thing. I think so
No vivendi games was an american video game publisher and holding company based in los angeles. That was a completely different thing
Oh, okay. All right. Cool. So yeah, no, this is
Vivendi
Okay, this is a french investment company headquartered in pali
So, uh, yeah, no, how have they not cut off daily motion?
Dude, I don't know I have no oh they have so they divested of it recently and now it is owned by canal group. But why would
Why would canal want it? I don't I I have never understood at any point in time
What daily motion is supposed to even be the warden zero zero says it's gotta be money laundering
Okay, but that's the thing guys. I keep I keep like hearing that people will say
Anytime there's something that people can't explain. I feel like they just go straight to
It's got to be a write-off or it's going to be money laundering in bc. It might be true, but I don't I don't know
And in many cases Here in bc in many cases. I can definitely see how that might be the case
But what would be the money laundering purpose of this? Why would they update it with like shorts?
Because I thought the whole and and correct me if I'm wrong. I've never engaged in criminal enterprise before
But my understanding of money laundering is the idea is that you have a functioning business
Into which you can mix both
Like like genuine proceeds of the business functioning as it does and ill-gotten gains
And mix them together in a way that they are hard to differentiate from each other
So like in Breaking Bad Walter White buys the car wash
So that he has real revenues that could easily be cash revenues that he can put his ill-gotten cash in with
and And and mask the source of it
But if you have something that as far as I can tell could not
Possibly do anything other than lose copious amounts of money
And would operate entirely digitally with no cash
What would be the what would be the money laundering purpose of it? I
And and it might be I don't know. I'm not a crook
But I just I don't understand that so maybe Floatplane chat could be happy to um, you know help me out here
But like they have they have features conrad back to my thing
Conrad and Floatplane chat new one LTT Store cash payments cash cash cash for your bones
Too many bones not enough cash try cash bones. Sorry. It's a future on my reference
You can tell they're trying they have like the infinity ads in the sidebar here and when you scroll
Oh god, they refresh god So they have they have like a full block of ads in the sidebar that refresh as you scroll one user is getting you like
A 20 friggin ad impressions. Oh god, they refresh even when you don't scroll. Oh, yeah
Whoa, yeah, so the ads are crazy. Also. Look at this. They have three of the same ad running right now
No, dude, I watched so not allowed. I watched a video that had three pre-roll ads
They were all the same ad that is so not allowed that is so gaming it
And then they they like have features like they have video transcripts
You can turn this on and it it looks like they have some form of like
Thing trying to generate a video transcript So that somebody had to make that
Uh, you go back they have shorts now. They like
Support the new format. They have an app that they're clearly keeping up to date to a certain degree
Like someone's doing stuff. There are developers working on this and like keeping it
Alive Dan vibes says I'm float playing chat daily motion still has over 400 employees according to wikipedia. Wow
And lucky drive 1984 says I think many websites use daily motions video player. So this is a b2b play maybe
But then why let random users upload to it or maybe they don't
I legitimately don't know legitimately have no idea
And there's honestly not a ton of
Information on their like wikipedia page doesn't even say like how it works or anything like that
I think your wikipedia page is probably longer than this. I don't mind doesn't exist. No, it does
It just is not easy to find. Hold on. We're gonna fix it though. We're gonna fix it though
Uh, hold on. It's it's in draft form. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean that's kind of existence
Here here it is
Apparently they updated it to include the wanshow stuff. Okay. No, it's not longer than that's not longer than daily motion
We got to get it longer. We got to pump those numbers up Those are rookie numbers
I gotta do something I gotta do something stupid
Oh, yeah, that would be the way. Yep. I think that would actually do it
Like if you had like a borderline Darwin award like a major controversy you could I don't know you could like
It's the whole like you could get like a benchmark wrong on something rise to power
Being in power fall execution. You need an arc. Yeah, okay. Yeah
Uh crystal says daily motion does let the public upload
There you go. Okay. Well, good luck with that everyone. Uh, why don't we move on to our next topic? You want to pick it? Um, sure
No, I didn't tell him what he was picking could be my nose could be my butt
Um, I guess it's oh my god
Let's talk about Windows. In order though Dan It takes a screenshot Windows the fastest version of Windows probably isn't what you expect. Okay. Hold on. Hold on
Let's let the people post. Let's let the people post in the chat
Yeah, what do you think is the fastest Windows? Well, the first person's definitely wrong xp. Uh, no
I don't xp is a funny one expect xp is a funny one because people have so
Much nostalgia goggles for Windows xp Windows xp was a piece of shit until like service pack two
sp2 was Goated sp2 was Windows xp in the early days kind of sucked. I think we were just coming from millennium edition
Which was like way worse. This is what I was saying. I think it was good for the time
Dude, I had a lot of problems, but I think it was good for the time and I think computing back then was very fun
That's fair and you could have fun with Windows xp Windows xp was fun
So it didn't really matter that it had problems. It was fun. It is amazing. How much of chat is totally wrong
I don't know if I've seen pretty much it. Oh, okay. There's a couple people in there who said it very definitively
Which makes me think they just read the article. There's there's there's some in there. There's some in there. Okay
All right hackaday reports on a benchmark battle featuring every version of Windows since 2001
Which means xp vista seven eight point one
10 and 11 Apparently not eight. I see those as different, but that's okay
Um before we get into the results, which version do you think we'll win?
I top of head guessed seven when I first looked at the this whole thing happening
I knew the answer but only because we've benchmarked Windows editions before
and because Because of the whole okay, this is a bit of a spoiler but because of the whole Windows nine thing
Do you remember Windows nine? Yeah, so there's a reason. Yeah that modded
A tuned up version of that the best Windows
Was the best Windows for like quite an extended period of time now. Did they get into modding? No
Okay, no, so that's why I guess that's why I knew yeah because even not modded
So a lot of the mods for Windows nine were less about performance actually and more just about cleaning up memory usage
And improving stability and making the user interface
Windows nine was so goaded that guy reached out and said he's working on one for
11 I'm actually stoked. Yeah. Okay. Anyway carry on uh youtuber
Triggs triggers old triggers old Nice, uh loaded half a dozen thinkpad x2 20s
So an i5 25 20 m 8 gigs of RAM 25 6 200 sorry 256 gig SSD and Intel hd
3000 with the professional versions of the last six iterations of Windows got everything totally up to date
Which is kind of impressive in its own regard
In a few ways and conducted a bunch of experiments to learn how Windows performance has changed over the last two and a half decades
Which is a brilliant idea. Yeah super cool idea fantastic work. Maybe uh, go check it out instead of just listening to this
They did boot to desktop times disk usage times and uh
Five gigabytes RAM test how many chromium tabs can be open before we hit five gigs RAM. That's interesting for boot to desktop
Fastest to slowest 8.1 Um is the oldest version with fast boot
So it has fast boot, but it's the lightest os that makes sense little combination of the ones with fast
It's like wicked fast xp and 10 tide, which is hilarious
Just have to say uh seven vista and 11 all had uh
Taskbar issues or is that just 11 had tasks 11? Yeah So seven of vista were kind of slow and then 11 the taskbar took forever to load which sounds about on brand in fairness to 11
This is not supported hardware on Windows 11, but then that's like
I don't know kind of people's problem with Windows 11. Oh a big part of it. So
Yeah, take the l Windows 11 Windows 7 was the the the worst at disk use. Is that just how big the operating system is?
Yeah, that's not too surprising And then the five gigs RAM test for sort of for how many tabs you can have open the best was Windows 8.1 and 7
at 252 And 235 tabs doesn't that?
Okay, so Windows 8.1 one Well, it's a huge gap between the other ones. I guess. Yeah, the worst was Windows xp that makes sense
Um, oh wait really Windows xp and 11. Yeah
50 tabs for xp and 49 for 11 really
I mean, she's a hungry boy luke. She's got to get the telemetry data somehow
Best overall was 8.1 Windows 11 is generally the slowest actually what I suspect is that with xp it's it's it's just
Inefficiently managing it. Yeah, and then with 11. It's just a heavier os overall
So you just have less RAM left To put chrome tabs in would be my would be my guess
Whereas like something like Windows 8 like Dude Windows. Okay, and to be clear
That was why luke and I both raised an eyebrow when we were reading through every version of Windows
Because Windows 8 was a giant steaming
Dumpster fire. We would all love to forget that Windows 8 ever existed. Yeah, but but I think I think
Whitewashing the history of Windows 8.x and just referring to it as yes only Windows 8.1
That was the only one that existed Is um not giving enough credit to how long microsoft stubbornly
Stuck us with that horrible metro ui
That was not immediately Obviously removable on the early versions of Windows 8 like it was it was a long time
They didn't just launch this thing in early access and go. No. Oh, wow. This sucks. Okay. Well, we have a launch date to hit
But we're gonna get that fixed like like right quick fast for you guys
It was bad for a really long time and then 8.1 came and just
Fixed it october 2012 was Windows 8's release date
looks like It was released to manufacturing on august 1st 2012
And then 8.1 I just lost one of my ears
I don't know if it uh, oh did I sorry i'll fix it maybe and then 8.1 was octo. Yeah, so it took a year
And that was a dark year that was a long
Working at a computer retailer. Yeah, that was a long year eight was the only operating system that I ever
Didn't the only modern. Okay. Hmm. How do I define this?
Eight is the only operating system since 2000 where I had a personal computer and never installed it
I had 8.1, but I think I only ever really dove into 8.1 with Windows 9
Interesting. I think I held on to 7 and then went Windows 9
Which is 8.1 solidly for sure. I'm accepting that but it was a modded version of 8.1
And I think that to me means I kind of skipped one because I see 8.1 and 8 so differently
I'm trying to remember if I went 8 or 8.1 on my desktop because I don't think I figured out how good
8.1 was until Windows 10 was already out
And like 8.1 had turned into like the sexy remember when Windows was way lighter and when search worked
Yeah Because I think 8.1 was the last one where the search didn't suck
Yes, I'm pretty sure that's true. Yeah, so I actually picked up on 8.1 for like running VMs and stuff
And I don't I don't know if I ever desktoped it
I I don't actually I don't I don't I don't remember but I I definitely don't like fondly remember using it
Like I did with vista for instance, which I know is a controversial take
But I genuinely liked Windows 9 deal with it. I loved vista, but I think part of the reason why I liked Windows 9 was because it was such a like
fu Oh, yeah Nice to be honest
I was reminiscing over the weekend with a buddy of mine about uh Windows vista black edition
Um, which was another yeah, yeah, uh, which was another like Windows 9 style like
community mod And black edition was awesome actually
I used to have my Windows xp
Um boot logo modded to i'm trying to find the exact
One I think it was this one without the without the shine
I I had it set up to load Windows xp pirated edition
For the like the loading bar. Yeah, um, apparently that's been popular
across many Okay, I specifically searched for xp, but there are also some ones in here that are not xp
Like this one apparently was vista. Is that an upside down nice?
Spicy All right Man, uh, I'll I'll make it work. I can either have
My left ear or my right ear active
It seems to be the cable day. Anyway, go check out
No, no, I leaned over. I probably bumped something down. I'm sorry. It's okay. It's fine. We'll deal with it. Um
All right, what do you want to do next next topic? Yeah, uh, should we do the disney one?
Are we showing it? Are we gonna get the video demonetized? Let's just show it. I don't care. All right disney undercuts
This is like This one actually hurt. I don't know. Uh, disney undercuts decades of incredible filmmaking technology with ai animals
vfx extraordinaire rob bradow known for his work on star wars through industrial light and magic
Which is owned by disney gave a mostly interesting
Is the nose 15 minute ted talk about how technology has enabled artists to more
If uh to more effectively tell their stories or something something their stories
However, it was punctuated by a one and a half minute ai generated alien creature montage designed to get the audience
excited about the future of ai tools for filmmakers
And to be clear, this is if this is one that i'm thinking of it is specifically
Set up as an artist's vision of what star wars worlds might look like
If a i think it was like a scout drone
Is visiting. Yeah, we'll see. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, it is this one. Oh, hi.
And yeah, this cry. Yeah, you know watch for yourself
Okay, before we do this. No forget the audio. It doesn't matter before we do this
I didn't think this was real I was in the car with I think it was uh adam and
Who else was chilling with us was glenn our camera op? I think I think glenn was there and um
I think we had someone from the business team there. It doesn't matter. The point is
Everyone was like talking about it Which made me feel like like like it's real
And adam insisted that it was that it was like cringe and like you won't believe what disney did and so I was like
So I was so I was prepared What I assumed he was talking about
Because he's like, yeah, you won't believe this disney ai thing and everyone was like, yeah, yeah, yeah
And I was like, it's weird that we're all talking about this right now
It sounds like real, but I don't understand why we're so upset because disney announced their partnership with open ai recently and so
So people could you know, saura disney characters like like did someone fanfic
Something disney and you're like just depressed for the future of storytelling because it was like the worst fanfic thing ever
Like I got I got kind of confused because I hadn't heard anything about it
In this lead-up conversation and adam's like no, no, no, no, no
This is something else entirely different and he showed it to me
And it took me probably
Three or four slides
To go wait This is official
Like this is not like cringe fan bullshit
Like this came from disney
So with that preparation in mind, this is an actual disney employee
talking about the future of
human imagination Of a brand new star wars planet and the creatures that might accompany it or inhabit it, excuse me
Oh My god, yeah
So What is this
It's like a sloth with what looks like
Really poorly done water droplets on it or something metal or something metal metal sloth. Sure
A lot of this is like, you know, uh, I don't know 2006 facebook two animals hybrided together
This is uh, it's a video a zebra gorilla
A fish lizard fish lizard. It's a snail
This is this is the first one adam showed me. Yeah
It's a snail bird
We did a snail cock I mean
Really disney. Yeah. Yeah, it's just yeah, that is what it is
Very creative let's go on Oh, wow. Oh, wow. This time we hybrided a zebra with a polar bear
Yeah, and put it in an environment that it will not survive in very good. Can you imagine
firing up a new star wars film and seeing, you know, one of these attacking the reanimated corpse of
Palpatine for some reason Another time. Yeah
A flamingo iguana Let's blow up another really big space structure with palpatine on it. This is just a blue fawn
It's it's rough and it goes on
For so Freaking long guys check this out like Dan. Can you get rid of me for a sec? Thanks
Guys It's like it goes on for way longer than ha ha a funny joke. We were just kidding you guys look at the
Look at this It keeps going
Like It goes on for a very long time
And like if this was like some dude in the office and they're like hey look and they just showed it to their buddy
And they're like, yeah, I threw this together in a few minutes or whatever I'll just mess it around like that's fine. I guess
But like you're showing this off at a ted talk like
You're a major multi-billion dollar International I almost don't care if this isn't like a high school student project. It's rough
like What the okay the dumbest part
Or not the no, this is actually far from the dumbest part, but
I don't know this felt especially ridiculous to me was
One day for two days or something before I found out about this before I had this conversation
I I literally Did this
And my whole point my whole point in our AMD coverage at ces this year
was That am at AMD representative talked about how your ai could give you
powerful financial advice And I was like
lol um No, didn't they also say something about like
Uh, I don't know changed the world through infinite energy or some like crazy claim. I thought they made some like
Mind-blowing. I didn't hear that part But my point was this look. I don't think anyone's going to be upset about having a decent npu on your product
Right so that you can and I literally used this as my example
Of like just dumb bull that that people might want to do with their stupid crappy
Like npu on their laptop. This was literally
One of the two just stupid ridiculous. Who cares? It's just for lol's
Things that I could come up with I came up with like a human made that in in 2008 or whatever. It was funny
Zebra fish, ha ha ha ha. I used the photoshop blending tools to look dad zebra fish. Yeah
How is this a credible?
Conversation even From a major industry player like disney. Yeah, it's crazy and and ilm was like god tier
For still is uh, yeah, this makes me concerned. But yeah, well, yeah, right? Yeah
I'm sure they still have the talent somewhere. It just wasn't on stage
Well, I don't know maybe that guy's good, but like it wasn't shown on the big screen on stage
Is this during that section of the thing? I didn't watch the whole thing. Whatever is this 4d chess?
Are they trying to generate backlash?
In order to rebel against top level executives who are demanding more ai
Please tell me that's it. Just tell me that's it. You know what I don't look their own entire career doing that
That is a move that happens, but it's not that common
Is that tell me that's it luke give me hope give me a new hope you might say for a third time
Six star wars burn, that's a deep cut
Not a deep cut
But it cuts deep which is I guess where I got confused. Yeah
Uh I don't believe it, but I hope so
That's not enough. Yeah, tell me that's it. Tell me it's 4d chess. Please luke
Because otherwise it might result in the same thing if it's not 4d chess then I think
I'm just gonna give up and I'm gonna apply to work at disney
Because apparently my ideas are just as good as theirs if that kind of stage you'd be fine
You'd be you'd be totally fine tomorrow
You can do what I did to get to get here
Just lie on my resume. Yeah, I isn't even lying anymore. I created zebrafish. Is it even lying anymore? I trade trademarked it
patented zebrafish Oh
I hate this Okay, um, it's okay. We have some discussion questions here
Some of them are interesting. Uh, do you see anything in the video the guy who excited? No, not at all
Um, how long before we're forced to watch ai generated content in a major motion picture?
I just won't go watch it. I've been doing that for a long time Would we be surprised?
Would you be surprised to hear that it has sort of already been used extensively or something? No, because like
even if it's at the concept art stage where
To be clear, there's a lot of people that are upset about that type of use for it because
concept artists are a thing But what I'm what I'm getting at here is if it were used at the concept art stage
And a real artist went and took it from concept art to what you actually see
You probably would not have any way of noticing it. You wouldn't be able to tell from the pixels or whatever
so odds are
That it's already been used extensively
Even if it's just just at the concept art stage
Oh, man, uh, there's there's some interesting stuff in here
David threw this into the notes this comes after
disney's big push into artificial intelligence that got an ai powered darth vader in fortnight
Who was immediately tricked into saying racial slurs?
And also after they continued to lobby the government to prevent mickey mouse from entering the public domain with one hand
While investing a billion dollars into open ai with the other. Yeah, thanks, david
That really makes me feel better. Yeah, it's tough. They're just losing as far as I can tell
Things like bluey are just completely taking their lunch. So they're lashing out and trying to accomplish things and
This doesn't seem like it is one of them which to me just means you're just losing way harder now
It's funny because like They don't even really use a lot of the
IPs that were so no formative and foundational and iconic
like do you think kids today would not
I mean, I guess they did do a duck tails reboot I was just I was trying to think like would they not like donald duck and mickey and like
It's funny because when you're when you're at disneyland Those characters are still so central to the brand identity
But like when I was a kid, I feel like there was so much media with mickey mouse
Like you like I remember I had one of those little like golden books that was like mickey mouse
But it was the story of the prince and the popper like like, you know
Disney's whole shtick where they they steal folklore and fairy tales and then they just like put their ip and characters on it like
That seemed like a pretty good that seemed like a pretty good formula
And then now they've gone like self-referential where they just like remake their own movie
But in live action and it it it feels like at a certain point you're gonna run out of that. Maybe you could I don't know just
Look, I don't want to be in charge of disney, but it seems like you could just I don't know do that
They are releasing toy story 5 Oh god
I I felt like toy story 3 tied the whole arc up into a nice little bow and I felt like it was done
And toy story 4 just felt like one of those movies where and then this happens and then this happened
And then this happened and then like this happened and wasn't that cool and then this happened
We'll see how it goes Yeah
I don't know the original toy story trilogy
Is pretty legendary. I didn't I didn't hate toy story 4
But it didn't stick with me like the other ones did you know
Toy story 4 felt so unnecessary. Yeah
Uh, yeah, there's there's again more notes to this. There's an there's another extra added
um Do you think we will see a continued push for more practical effects in movies or is this another turning point towards the artificial?
I don't know. I really liked the the plain steam
Wow, why can't I talk to the the plain scene in um
Airplane Uh, what is that movie called? It's from the guy who made inception. Um, but it's about like
Moving forward or backward a tenet. Yeah, the plane scene in tenet was sick
And it was filmed by actually smashing an actual big plane into an actual big building
Um, which was like pretty sick. That sounds really expensive. It was so they did it once
And then they took like eight takes, you know And then they used that scene in like a bunch of different ways
Which was probably to justify the expense of it. Uh, but it was really cool how they did. I actually really like tenet, but um
That movie didn't get the greatest reviews ever. No, um
so
I was watching some older like 80s 90s action flicks recently
as part of my like watching older movies that I never saw and
I think the thing that stood out to me the most was the car chase scenes
It's like that semi truck Uh, like dirt bike
chase scene in terminator two Hits so much harder
When I know like obviously it's not as spectacular as some cgi up the butt thing from avengers or whatever
You know, someone's on that bike But like
They actually bashed a semi
Up they actually like did those stunts with the bikes. They they really did all that stuff and it was
Maybe From like as a kid watching it, um, I I would rather just have the cgi
You know spaceship fight in new york city or whatever I think this is a very interesting point that you're making but as an adult
Appreciating the artistry of it. Yeah, I find
Just the speed of the dirt bike Uh as slow as it is far more engaging knowing that it's real. Yeah
Very interesting. That's a pretty good point. I think Because yeah, I there's there's a lot of things that I'll try to fight for of like the real is more interesting
But you're right when you're a kid. It's just like
I don't know Goopy brain juice stuff. Yeah when you're when you're older. It's like how was this made?
What's the investment in Risk, what's the investment in funds like?
Yeah Wow, like they you can tell the care that went into the scene because they there was so much spent on it
so you know that they must have Of really invested and fought for this to happen and and blah blah blah and that all impacts your appreciation of the art
The partnership that they must have had to forge with general motors to get totally to get like
19 cars That are going to be in like a giant pile up
Knowing that they have to convince them that they need them at a good price and that it's okay for their brand to be
You know bashed because like literally like bashed in because a lot of the time
car companies In you know more modern times will not allow even a scratch on the car and you'll notice that it's just totally immersion breaking
Once you're once you notice it once you're aware of it that like oh, okay
So the hero's car is not allowed to have any damage or scratches
Because it's the hero's car even though it
Bashed into a bunch of stuff and drove through a burning building or whatever it is that it did
Which to be clear is kind of silly because like the coolest Toyota truck
like ever Is this one?
Which the like the marshmallow truck
The person who drove back and forth through the fires repeatedly to save people
And their truck just like made it because it's a beast Toyota
Nice, and then Toyota just gave them a new one like the scars can be cool
If your car goes through some crazy stuff in the film like that that can be cool. It's not a bad thing
Does plex have a like History of stuff you watched like I'd be I'd be curious to see it does
Oh, yeah, hold on. Let me let me dig through it. I'll see if I can figure out what I was watching recently
That was really good
I can do an additional part of this topic if you want to oh hilarious nick ploof and I are friends and
We can see what each other watch on plex. I should
Probably let him know and I should probably disable mine because I don't think either of us probably intended that
Hope you're enjoying that show you're watching ploof. I didn't mean to creep on you, but quality selection
Um, they enabled it by default Yeah
Wait, really? Yeah, it just kind of came out of nowhere. Yeah, we talked about it on wanshow at the time
But I don't blame you for not paying attention. Is anyone coming for I mean I just don't really use it
So I probably just forgot but is anyone really coming for plex like I've heard jellyfin talked about
But every time I bring it up people kind of shrug and go like yeah, plex is still better
Is it is it is jellyfin improving? Is it replacing at this point? I will have to give it another shot
It's been a long time since I've looked at it
I will people are saying mb. We had three different people in a row say mb
And then now people are spamming jellyfin. Well, okay trying to remember it. I
It might have been bad boys one Now question for everyone spamming jellyfin is amazing
Is jellyfin open source and plex isn't and you like it because it's open source or is it just good?
Which one is it? Why not both? Why not both? Be real? Why not both?
Be real with me Because it being cool because it's open source is great
But that has to be in addition to it also being great that that that is the the cherry and the cream
You know what? I think it might have been last action hero I think that's the one that I that I was watching when I thought oh my god. All this stuff is real because I was shot in 1993
so I someone posted you should you should watch a video that's like
No CGI is just good CGI Not in 1993 in 1993 when they crashed a car into another car
They got two cars and they basically did what every six-year-old boy does when he's got two cars in his hands
But just filmmakers on a much bigger budget
No, you can tell when it's a scale model guys. Come on
Come on be real You can tell
Sometimes it's pretty hard cars Cars have weight cars probably yeah the way that they bend the way now
No, no, no, no, no, especially when it's a low speed collision and they like you can you know those 80s cars, right?
Like you can see the shocks and the weight of them. There's no no no no no no no
Yeah There's an additional part of this topic
Do you think larian did the right thing by promising to no longer use generative ai even during conceptualization and I was like
What? Uh, because that isn't what I heard last time at all and it sounds like
Some amount of hours ago Oh
um Let's see here 13 hours ago
There was why is it swen instead of swen
Are you supposed to pronounce it swen and he just wrote it that way and I don't know
13 hours ago. He said this hi. Happy you enjoyed our game. So first off
There is not going to be any j gen ai art in divinity
I know there's been a lot of discussion around about us using ai tools as part of
Concept art exploration. We already said this doesn't mean the actual concept art is generated by a ai
But we understand it's created confusion So to ensure there is no room for doubt
We've decided to refrain from using gen ai tools during concept art development
They refrain is not a commitment to never Yeah
That is that way there can be no discussion about the origin of the art having said that we continuously try to improve the
Speed with which we try to get things out the more iterations we can do the better in general the gameplay is
We think gen ai can help with this
So we're trying things Out across departments our hope is that it can aid us to refine ideas faster
Leading to more focused development cycle less waste and ultimately higher quality game
The important bit to note is that we will not generate
Creative assets that end up in a game without being 100 sure about the origins of the training data
And the consent of those who created the data If we use a gen ai model to create in-game assets, then it'll be trained on data
We own that is not the thing that was yeah, we need to make sure that when we put notes in the thing
They are the right notes for the thing. I'm deleting that. Um, so basically what they're saying just like
Refrain from taking out your cell phones and taking pictures of the performance
um, that is not You know a hard never that is a like
Please don't because they can't even guarantee that their own people internally will not use these tools
They cannot prevent a larian employee from going home
Getting their laptop. I'm sorry. I mean this laptop from our laptop partner razor. Thank you getting their laptop
Generating some thing bringing it into work and using it as part of their. Oh, that's not Sven
That's why it's not Sven. Cool. Um
They can't prevent anyone from doing that and then the second part of this is
Shoot now i'm distracted Sorry
Um, that was the game director. It's a different person is that forever is a very long time. They would be
Completely bonkers at this point to say
No generative ai forever and they know that which is why that statement was basically
We're going to keep doing exactly what we're doing
Here's a statement we crafted that will hopefully let you guys settle down and touch some grass
The the most interesting part to me was that the important bit to note
Is that we will not generate creative assets that end up in a game without being 100 sure
About the origins of the training data and the consent of those who created the data sure that part's very
So basically we will use generative ai in the concept phases
We will generate assets that will end up in the game
But we will be sure of the origin of the training data
That seems like maybe not for divinity. Yeah, maybe not for divinity, but it's but they're exploring that that last bit seems pretty clear
Kind of the plan. Yeah, but this is to be clear, man. Like they're talking about it. But this is the plan for everyone
It's been fascinating to me how
Like larion and the the people behind
claire obscure I don't remember their studio name
Are gaining so much flak for this And then embark the people who made our creators are like super open about it and have been forever
And they're getting relatively little flak for it. There's been a couple big hits
But but not that much and then you see battlefield out there
So obviously having used it to the point where I've seen like promotional images that
have like Very telltale signs of ai influence and everybody's just like whatever. I don't know. It's ea. They were going to do it
Anyways, we'll just leave him alone. It's like oh come on
Come on Anyways, um
All right, moving on Speaking of cool things. I'm going to do a random like a side thing. Uh Dan. Hold on. Oh is Dan going to have us do anything else
Yeah, probably do the merch message because your thing there says topic two and we're on topic
Literally about to grab it. Wow. Nice. Wow. Nice quality. Wow
Oh
Right Hey Oh shoot. I've got too warm and I finally took it off. Well, uh, okay go to luke's screen
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Or just a valentine's approaching
What is this a joke? I don't get it's for having owning half of wan. You're now tied together
Yeah, it's funny business arrangements are actually like
Way way more binding than like marriage
Turns out fun time. Yeah, like I remember Yvonne and I joking about it
Like when we bought a house together. Yeah, we were like oh this is
We actually we bought a house together before we got married and we were like oh well, I mean like
This is way more complicated and then when we started the business it was just like oh, okay
So between owning a house together having kids together and the business we're like
Full stuck which is good because I'd like her to not leave me. Okay carry on
Uh, I'm uh, I mean
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Which is which is that's not what happened that's reality
I noticed it on my chair and was like, huh And then put it on and then noticed that and was like, oh neat and then loaded up the store to be like, what's going on?
We only talked about the 5050 like last week. So we designed a shift and prepared a shirt in less than one week
Amazing. We're so good four days. I'm very impressed by that team. We're wicked smart. Absolutely incredible. Uh, also what class or spec did you play in? Wow
Oh warrior Classic based all the all the classes all the specs. Sorry
Uh, the best spec warrior ever is very pro in classic. Wow because wearing shields
While tanking is boring and not wearing shields while tanking is fun
There's another one here for luke as well also about wow thoughts on add on removals in wow midnight
Oh, I don't care. I don't play retail gross
I don't know. I think they're gonna have a hard time changing their raid design because for many many many years raid design was done
With the the theory that people would be having add-ons installed and the add-ons basically like
Tell you what to do all the time. There will literally be like audible cues of like move
Or whatever. Yeah, like the add-ons are really intense. It's funny because like I actually uh, I've I've really been
Frustrated sometimes but also enjoying how not
Handholdy clear obscure is on the one hand. It's modern gaming way too easy. Like when you die in a fight you just
fry it again Like there's it's like a four second penalty and you just
Go for it again. It auto saves like all the time
But on the other hand Like sometimes they'll get annoyed because I can't figure out where to go
Like there's no map in dungeons. So the difficulty is high, but the punishment is low, I guess
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you like you really have to you really have to to try
And so so sometimes I've been kind of annoyed, but I've also really appreciated
And I found like the combat for instance way more engaging when the timing is really hard to get
Um, and like they have these they have these side challenges where you have to like parkour
And I don't know if you've ever parkourd in a like
Like third person view Uh 3d game where
I think Assassin's Creed counts because it just like does it for you. Frankly, it's an rpg
And is not Assassin's Creed. Like I kind of had flashbacks to psychonauts
um Huh Like some of them are really really frustrating
But like getting to the top of like the tower one. I'm like, yeah
And I don't know. I felt like accomplishment in playing a game that I haven't felt in a while
That's cool. So I'm into that That sounds like the opposite thing and like they have okay. They have kind of they have a little bit of white paint
Oh, um, like with the climbing things
But like the climbing things are gold and sometimes there'll be like strains of gold in the rock and they're actually kind of hard to spot sometimes
Yeah, I know I like it. I like there's there's a there's a lot going on in like
I don't know. I haven't played them But there's a lot going on in like modern wow raids
And before the add-on removal, I guess. I don't know if it's already happened or not
And and but but yeah, like there will be this mechanic where like say there's there's a boss
And he's hitting your tank right fairly obvious mmo type stuff
But he'll put a debuff on your tank and once the debuff gets to a certain amount of stacks
Yeah, you need to swap which tank is Currently tanking the boss
Because the the main the one tank will get to too many stacks and you need to swap and that guy gathers stacks and this guy's stacks
Fall off and you swap back and forth right pretty normal very average thing to be on a boss very average
There will be add-ons that when your stack count
When the stack count of the of the other guy average size too high actually
Six inch tank average size tank. That's way more like eight inches, but okay
Oh When it's when it's your turn to taunt and like take the boss over because the other guy has too many stacks
It'll just tell you what the add-on will be like taunt
So like if you've played a bunch, you'll just reflexively like hear that and just press the button
You don't even like there's no thinking And then but but like theoretically there is a lot of other stuff happening in the encounter
So it's not like you aren't paying attention. You're still playing and it can still be really hard
But like the add-ons are managing things for you
While you're playing around the other mechanics and like they're they'll
Certain fights will still be very difficult despite all that but these fights have been built
with Knowing that these add-ons exist and that people will make them. Oh
So they're harder They're in a lot of ways way harder where if you didn't have the add-ons, it would be like incredibly difficult
Oh, okay. No one's doing so is that so now if they're going to take the add-ons out
Which is in a lot of ways it probably makes sense It's kind of weird that the community has to constantly build things for your game
Right, right, right, right. So by taking the add-ons out like okay cool that kind of makes sense in some ways
But then your design philosophy for your game for so many years has had these things in mind
And I suspect there's going to be growing pains not that I'll experience any of them because
Retail about sucks, but Yeah, oh no adam plays. Oh, no. Does he hate my opinions? We'll see
Importantly, they aren't banning add-ons. They're just reducing their scope so they can't play the game for you like lucas describing
Ah, okay, interesting. Well, that that sounds like it helps a little bit then sure. That's cool
Shout out adam customer care supervisor for our creator warehouse. Yeah
All right, Dan, what are we doing? How about some more topics we can do more topics got a bunch to get through let's talk about the samsung smart tv lawsuit
samsung sony lg high sense and
Tcl are all being accused of deploying surveillance technology without user consent
acr automated content recognition takes screenshots and
Provides other information about what you're watching on your tv to the tv manufacturers
Headquarters allegedly you are opted in to acr when you consent during the tv setup process
To opt out at least on a samsung display. You must find the right
opt-outs across four or more
separate menus ours technica figures it's roughly 15 clicks to complete after analyzing the lawsuit
Texas attorney general ken paxton has called acr an uninvited invisible digital invader. I agree
Texas has apparently secured a temporary restraining order against samsung not the rest of them
But samsung specifically which prevents them from continuing to sell transfer collect or share acr data
relating to texas consumers
The district court found sufficient cause to believe that samsung's actions violated the deceptive trades practices act
A similar restraining order was requested for lg But a judge denied the state's request and then sony tcl and high sense are still involved in this legal battle alongside samsung
The lawsuits argue that companies deliberately use
Use misleading labeling and non-intuitive terminology when explaining acr technology to consumers
According to source points legal analysis Texas prosecutors argue that each manufacturer also hides or obfuscates what acr can record from its customers
And the answer is Basically anything that is connected over htmi as well as cable boxes
If it's on your screen, it can be recorded. This could even include confidential or sensitive information
if you were to hook up a laptop or a computer to your tv and
View said info There are no visual cues or warnings that content is being recorded
So this goes way beyond the data that they might need for targeted advertising
This is this is wild. Texas is seeking 10 000
To 250 000 dollars per violation
With higher penalties when persons aged 65 or older were affected
That lastly is a little confusing to me. No, I totally get it. I think really why not kids?
That would also maybe be fair I My thing was maybe susceptible more susceptible to scams and if they can target scams more easily because of certain data like that
Because the the people getting wrecked by online scams. It's like
Wildly vast majority really old people. Hmm. Is that is that true? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah
So is that who Bethesda was selling horse armor to?
The elder scrolls based on your own laws is all fit for old people
No No
Based on your own logic. That's not a scam
I know it's not a scam It's not a scam. I just thought it was funny because I thought of elder scrolls. It was pretty funny
Um, I was just I was just trying to find a way to I thought you were just calling me old to be honest
I didn't even put the elder scrolls. You're kind of an old soul though a little bit
Yeah, like there's things about you that are like young dude, but there's also things about you that are very like
I'm I'm like middle-aged and like I'm more interested in in the exploring the world and and having
Sharing experiences, you know, like you're just you're kind of old. I started the exploring the world thing
Right away. Yeah, I know I know dude to be clear. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I know. Okay. No, my bad
Like you were you were just boring like kind of a middle-aged man. Yeah, and to be clear
I I I totally get it like I just I was like, okay
Well, I have flunked out of school I am going to join the workforce and immediately settle down and have a family as quickly as humanly possible
um You seem like a fantastic wife. Let's be let's be husband and wife and have children
Like I don't know I was talking to someone recently about like How can you know if you want to have kids or not and I was like, I don't know simple to do and they were
Some people do sorry. I'm still a little bit sick. I'm having talking problems
um And they were like no like nobody does it just sort of happens and I was like no Linus did for sure
Like no if they wanted to have kids. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was like no Linus knew
100 yeah, there's no question. They're like how whatever. I was like, I don't know
But he knew the whole time like there was no
There was no gaps This was this was a hundred percent. No, that's that was that was the path
The get education. Okay, we didn't manage that get job get wife get kids
And then and have a family path accomplished. Yeah, there was no yeah
There wasn't wavering. Yeah, no I don't know I I I was talking to someone about this the other day, but I had kind of a unique upbringing because
um, you know people will ask like were you an only child or did you have a lot of siblings and I'll be like
yes Because I was functionally an only child for most of the time up until I was 11
Uh, so that was every other weekend. I was with my dad and most of the week
And then every other other weekend. I was with my mom and also Wednesdays after school
And so I was an only child at my dad's house, but then at my mom's house. I was one of
five so After I was 11 I lived with my mom. So I had like
Only child childhood and then also like some childhood and my entire adolescence as as one of
Many including because I was the second oldest and there was a big age gap between number four and number five of my of my
Genetic half-siblings, but we don't really like see it that way, but it's a technical detail that maybe people care about get over it
Um, so there was a pretty big big age gap between number four and number five of us. So I like
knew that I love little kids
And I like knew how to change diapers and I like like I actually participated very actively in caring for a baby
um, and it's something that I I feel like a lot of
Parents in my cohort seriously missed out on
Because it used to be that people had Enormous families. Yeah, like tons and tons of kids to the point where by the time
Number five number six number seven number eight number nine are rolling in
The eldests The eldest ones are very actively participating in in the care of and the upbringing of of these kids because otherwise
It's a completely non viable situation and I uh
I don't know. I I I felt like I just had more certainty and more confidence
Going into parenthood having had that experience sure that I feel like a lot of people it like including Yvonne
I laid that out too. Yvonne was one of two and they were two years apart
she did not help In any way to raise a child before she was just
Here you go handed one Yeah, like that that was brought up as well like oh, how could he have known
He like how could you know before you've done it? You've never had kids before and I was like well
He kind of sort of did because he kind of sort of took care of them. I got to see a lot of it
Yeah, so like I don't know that kind of counts in my opinion like I
remember being in the hospital waiting for
My baby brother to come out Like I like I can remember that whereas
Yvonne doesn't remember that for for her baby sister like it just well she was you just can't she was two. Yeah. Yeah, exactly
Any memory that you have from when you were like two is is probably heavily corrupted by that whole remembering a memory problem
Yeah, yeah 100 um, I don't I do not remember how we got into this topic of conversation. No idea
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Okay, the rules are simple Earlier this week there was a survey sent out to our team
While we were away at ces. Oh fun. Okay five questions were asked and the top three answers for each question
Have been recorded for us to try to guess To keep things moving we will be given two guesses each per round
The answers are weighted and there will be up to 300 points up for grabs
Whoever has the least number of points at the start of each round will get to guess first
And somewhere off screen a coin was flipped and Linus will be guessing first for the first prompt. Oh, I see
This is very It's only mildly out of it, but I like their box
You open it and it the info card comes out of the my luke cam button doesn't work
Oh, because I have it in takeover mode. Okay. Uh, oh one sec. Uh, oh
That's cute I don't think it's cool. Good chat. Neat. All right, Dan hit me
One second Sure thing. So prompt number one name a piece of tech you couldn't live without
Linus, you're up first phone
Wait, this is this is Luke, what is your guess?
What is my guess or do I have to say that it's on the board or not? I have no idea. I've never watched wanley feud before. Sorry. What do we talk? What is my guess?
What am I guessing name a piece of tech you couldn't live without I'm guessing who you're guessing what everyone said
Survey phone. Well, you can't say the same thing. No, you have to get something else. Got it. It's obviously phone
Well, there's lots of responses. It could be something else. Got him. Got him. Got him. Got him
Do we do the survey says first Probably should have done water filtration
The hell is wrong with you
He's just throwing you can't throw no
That's so lame. You can't just look at chat. I didn't get that from chat. All right
Okay, you said you got for either of us you said like you got two guesses
We get to what I don't understand this game at all. What is what is happening?
It's family feud. You just have to guess what most people said
And and the people who I can't say the obvious for sure answer that you already because I got to go first
But but you'll get to go first if you're behind and there's like five rounds. Okay, so I'll go first next time
probably
I think I think that's it camera sure Camera camera. Okay, and we have to say two each
Apparently that's what it says here. Okay. I'm gonna go with
PC Or like computer computer computer computer. Okay. Yeah
Some someone will have said 3d printer
Oh, oh, I like at least someone I like it. Okay. All right. Give us the result for the first one
All right response number three
Was computer or laptop? So that's 10 points to Linus
Response number two was headphones or earbuds
Oh, wow, you got that and response number one
Phone
So that's Linus leading with 45 points. Luke. Nobody said water filtration
So Luke you get first they're all lying. Didn't he have two at two other guesses?
So I thought we didn't count that stupid water filtration one. It was good though. You all know he said it too earnestly
He was way too earnest. You would all have very serious issues to drink it from the floor
Prompt at number two Name a sign that you've been sitting at your computer for too long. Luke. You're up first. Numb legs
Numb legs dry eyes dry eyes. Yeah, I don't get this problem
Soar someone asked you recently if I wanted eyedrops and I was like for what?
and Luke you have another one blink more
Luke
Look guess number two sun comes up sun comes up tired
Tired all right So sun comes up. You are so your answers are so revealing of yourself
You're supposed to guess for the other people. This is we surveyed LMG
Whatever Number three survey says sore eyes
That's 15 points to the line
response number two is Legs are butt going numb. Yeah 20 points to luke and response number one was back or neck pain
Oh, okay, definitely posture issue. What is wrong with my co-workers?
Uh problem number three name your favorite LTT Store item luke. You're up first. Okay luke goes first. Nice
screwdriver screwdriver
Um Internal people
Oh That's tougher
Kind of remember all the bloody stuff we make we make so much. I'm gonna say scribe driver
Scribe driver for Linus. You'll get some on that. I feel like backpack
Backpack everyone got one at the christmas party. So it has probably the most internal exposure
That's actually really smart gamesmanship And guess number the last one Linus
I'm gonna go with water bottle. That's got some for sure. It's got to it has to you
Guess number three is a cargo pants
Shoot That makes sense. The cargo pants are sick. That makes sense. Number two
Backpack nice 15 points to luke. I'm getting wracked. Number one. Do you know number one? It's screwdriver. Yeah
Let's go. Hold on. I gotta do some tabulation here coming out of nowhere. Oh, I should have gone backpack. You're right
Fudge when I went. Oh, it was like backpack might be one
I'm still happy with screwdriver, but I was like if he gets backpack, then he's getting number two
Luke pulls ahead. Let's go prompt number four Linus. You're up first here
Name I got this name something you would use a magnet for Linus. You're up first
You
Would use a magnet for
Ah Sticking to my fridge
Okay, I don't know that's pretty good picking up screws picking up screws
Linus guess number two
Mounting a tool And luke final guess cable management
Oh crap, that's a good one for cable management guess number three
Picking something up like drop screws almost verbatim. Nice. Okay. That's cheating. Okay, uh guess number two
Sticking something to a fridge
And guess number one is cable management
Ah such a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one
I have no excuse for that one. That's so dumb. Yeah
Okay, more LTT Store answers. I feel like they almost answered like they almost reverse family feuded us here
Like trying to give responses that we would
think and Like that's such an LMG LTT Store answer cable man. Come on. Yeah cheap cheap cheap
And lastly name something you're likely to leave at the hotel while traveling
Linus you're up first because you're in last place
You
Cable okay, so is this like like you have left the hotel permanently you've checked out and yeah, you've left it at the hotel
I'm going with cable cable. Okay, luke
I don't like my guess anymore crap
Yeah
Charger Linus
Sock oh Sock
Are you a kick your socks off in bed kind of guy? Yeah, definitely
I used to be and then I left a lot of socks in hotel rooms
And now I just like I'm like no no not that and I'll I'll just take them and I'll put them in my pot
I think luke been pretty good about the last one last guess. So I'm going back to chat toothbrush. I don't know. It's not very good
But toothbrush. Okay. Let's see here. I feel like this one's gonna be quite number three
Headphones or earbuds. They'd love headphones
Definitely never leave my head why yeah, I would never leave my head number two
Toothbrush. Oh nice 15 points to luke. How do you people lose your toothbrush? How do you lose your toothbrush?
That is insane toothbrush, but I was just trying to think of things like I just oh, I've definitely left socks that one was good
And number one Charger for 25 points
I wasn't even sure charger would count because it was so similar to cable
I was going to give Linus judgment on cable if nobody picked it
Um, so that is 155 points to luke 85 points to liners
Yeah, I was literally I was worried there at the start
Dude purified water. What is wrong with you people just never they didn't really think about it
Yeah, I didn't think about it technically technology, but like not in the way we're talking about it right now
What is wrong with like floor water?
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All right, uh, why don't we jump into they will if you go to the qr code on the screen now? Goodbye. They sure will
Um steam machine price leak
Yeah, um, I I was kind of wondering if because on at some point time on wansha
We said expected prices didn't we didn't we both guess we've talked about it
I have guessed in a dedicated video on LTT So what did you get because I I know I have guessed but I don't remember what I said
So what did you guess? I don't remember my guess. There's also a note that I think you just flashed it on screen
People are saying this is all bs. It might be we have no idea. It's a it's a leak or a rumor or whatever
But there's also people that have noted that in in chequilla
Uh, the tax is included in the price. So this would be with tax. Okay
So my guess and yeah, this could be total this could be total nonsense
How did this comment get
Uh, oh, yeah, it surprised me as well top up voted on reddit of all places. Yeah, you know what that's fine. I
Uh, okay. Anyway, the point is my guess according to the ai overview
Imagine using ai to find your own, um information. It does sound right though
My guess was apparently six six ninety nine
However, I did I did pull the totally
Um
Okay, yeah vice says I believe six ninety nine. Uh, apparently that's what I said
However, I did pull the totally bs move of saying barring any major changes in the market
Which was because d RAM was like
Looking like it was gonna go parabolic So you said six ninety nine u.s. Yep
Which it looks like they're tax on electronics there if I'm correct with the googling
Is twenty one percent? Okay. Um, so what's six ninety nine times twenty one percent? It's about another hundred and
Twenty hundred and thirty dollars or something like that. So eight hundred and thirty bucks
So I could be off by over a hundred dollars if
If It's just a straight conversion
There's very likely also like usually when you have something come up here
It'll be like yeah, it's it's price converted and then also rounded up to the highest closest ninety nine
Um So there's there's also stuff going going on like that. Miss me with that sales tax bs here in oregon
Yeah, oh right because they don't have it neat cool. Uh, but what we're talking about
Yeah, is why the the listed price on this leak might actually be
Higher than you might expect even if the leak is true
Which is because the tax might be included in this price
Because they include tax in their price in this region j christ 08 says people say the retailer adds 17 margin as well
Sounds like a credible person
Yeah, yeah, we already knew that part. Yeah, but then also margin for this retailer
So so all of that combined. Oh, okay. We might I might be really close land it pretty close
This is what I was trying to effectively get to. Yeah
That'd be kind of cool. I I wasn't expecting really to be right because I know there's so much
Volatility plus tax being included plus retailer markup not coming directly from steam all that kind of stuff might land it
Um pretty close to what was expected I think the conversation now is kind of the the branching decision tree then
So if this is right and it actually ends up being like 900 to 1,000 us dollars
Is it doa to you? No, really? Yeah, I don't think so at all
Um, I yield the floor One thing is I'm wondering about about competing devices that include a Windows license
If they will be priced competitively still after some of these vendors update their prices to reflect to reflect
increasing DRAM prices Both in the the you know
Honestly across the system because a variety of different things use DRAM these days
GPUs are going up in price. Everything else is going up in price. So like is this actually not that competitive?
Um, it might still be cheaper because of no Windows It might still be cheaper because of a variety of different reasons
Pricing is going through the freaking roof right now Correction for people who are about to tell him that nobody buys Windows. They definitely do especially when they're buying pre-builds
Yes, which this effectively is but then Windows also doesn't cost that much as a license on a pre-built machine
It still costs. Do you know how much it is? I don't remember. It's a lot less than retail, but it also
Significantly depends on your agreement with microsoft like at ncix
Retail was like a hundred dollars a hundred ten dollars and our cost was like 90 dollars like it wasn't much lower
But we also weren't like a proper si And I think a big part of the reason that we couldn't get proper si pricing was that they knew that we would just sell oem copies to
Regular retail customers for sure for sure
And so they like couldn't trust us with it essentially I'm trying to find and that was true not just of ncix, but the the the retail
Sort of pc hardware channel in generally just can't can't trust those guys to like abide by a licensing terms thing
Which from a consumer standpoint is pretty, you know, awesome and pro consumer
It's just that from microsoft's. Hey, we'd like to get the money that we intended for this particular licensing terms agreement
Is not conducive to that
I'm trying to figure how much it oh here we go while you're working on that amicur and inflow plane chat says
But do you think valve saw the reaction to your price estimate not being ridiculously angry and just went with it?
No, I don't I don't think I have that kind of influence. Yeah
It's it's so funny that my job title is has literally become
You know as the as the terms have have changed
Has become an influencer and I legitimately like do not have nearly as much influence as a lot of people seem to think I do
I think I think you said this last show as well I think you're absorbing that term in the wrong direction in my opinion. I think when most people say influencer
They don't mean of companies. They mean of the audience. No, no, that's a hundred percent true
So they're not talking about your ability to influence valver and vidya
Well, a lot of people in the audience think it goes both ways though, right?
It like for sure does I think there are a lot of I think there are a lot of people
In the online media slash influencer space who pretend that it does as well
I think there's definitely the ability to influence rage within a company at certain
employees for doing certain things so like
If something goes poorly a high up that sees that thing go poorly might crush down on someone for it
But if that was literally what they were intending and you're like, I don't like it
Because price go up
Yeah, I don't we're not having any kind of real impact on high level decisions. I mean if if online anger
From, you know influencers and and fans or whatever could could affect major decisions at large companies like
Disney's star wars leadership would not be what it is right now. Yeah
But yeah, I I still think this has viability
um There's also that another aspect of this that you've talked about fairly extensively at this point, which is the
Top 10 percent of earners buying 50 percent of things
Um, oh the k-shaped economy. Does this really affect the top 10 percent of earners?
No, but I also don't think that they were necessarily going to be after such a
mainstream product in the first place I don't know. I think
You can get a lot more pc for a thousand dollars. Yeah, but I don't think being top percent percent
I don't think being top 10 percent earner means
You're savvy. Yeah, that's fair I think it's like, oh cool steam has more hardware. I really like the steam deck. I'd be cool with more steam stuff
I'll just attach it to the steam box thing that can play video games on my tv. That's awesome
So next week, we're going to be shooting me building my own steam machine
Hold on 10 percent is still a huge market. No, it's it's 10 percent of income earners. Yeah, are 50 percent
Of the purchasing market. Yeah, so the top 10 percent of earners
Are responsible now for 50 percent of us spending. This is specifically in the us
Which for a wide variety of reasons is super bad is wild
Yeah, like absolutely mind-blowing like you can literally target the top 10 percent
And you can hit half of the spending in the entire us market
And when you consider how much lower margin
That other 90 the products you're selling to that other 90 percent are because they're going to be
You know more entry-level products
There all the the the lucrative opportunities shouldn't say all but many of the lucrative opportunities can be had
by only targeting The the very very top earners in that market
No, so bolster says it's bad, but it's still what 35 million people they can sell to
No, no That's not what's going on. That's completely not that's completely besides the point
The point is that when brands are targeting their product development and their marketing they can just ignore
90 percent of americans
and You know those 90 percent can go hey, please. We're drowning and we can't afford this
and brands can be like
Don't care Because they can access
50 percent of the consumer spending the far more lucrative far more profitable spending
By only targeting the top percent of earners. That's the point
Yeah, it's not yeah Yeah
When you're looking at amount of sales It's 50 percent of sales are to 10 percent of people nipolis cage says NVIDIA has entered the chat
Yeah, that's that's a prime example That was that was exactly what gave me the epiphany about this was like I was trying to put together how
All gamers seemingly are so angry at NVIDIA and yet NVIDIA's gaming revenue keeps going up
And I was like Everyone's mad. They keep selling more gpus. Their market share keeps being over 90 percent
How do I reconcile these? Well, right. It's because those 90 percent are a very loud voice
But not a very powerful voice
To people who to whom the only language that matters is how much of my s*** you're buying
And that was how I kind of finally put it together and I went oh, right
So these angry gamers I mean you might as well be you might as well be someone who
Pirated the movie complaining that you didn't like the plot literally you don't matter
You have no voice to a company whose only language is money and and that and that's just that's just the case
Once an organization gets large enough is everything boils down to to a spreadsheet to a finance document, right?
You literally have no voice If you're if you're not exchanging money with this company
Dead anti-social and Floatplane chat says buy more money
Yeah, well
Yeah, that's rough Yeah, so I I still think it'll be interesting for that 10 percent of people
Which means that if it is if that is true if it is interesting to those 10 percent of people
Then it will probably be successful um
Chaper 88 says chat or says is there a do your own steam machine video coming? Yes
I finally get to build it next week. Um, I've been out of town
So uh, justin and jordan got to have some of the fun without me
But it's going to be in the original steam machine prototype case that valve sent out
completely overhauled hardware That's awesome like like cutting edge AMD
Um processor for both CPU and GPU like like superfast machine
Um, it's still going to use all commodity hardware. So unlike the official steam machine 2026 whatever year they attach to it
It will be um upgradeable in the future
and We tried to make it match
the OEM steam machine experience in every way
And we were not able to get there for reasons that will get into a way more detail in the video
But it's good enough. It's good enough for me. And I'm pretty excited about it
Yeah, oh too far gone says it's time for the weekly Intel arc check
I'm actually worried because all the rumors that I've seen have been
GPU prices going up in january
Let's see has the arc b580 gone up in price
Okay, that's not a good sign the uh Oh, oh, yeah, that's not good. Okay. You know what? No 259 is within my margin of what I consider to be msrp
There is still one arc The onyx lumi
That is available for 259 Uh, Dan, do you remember? Can you post the link?
Oh, wait There is the female audience and Floatplane chat along with no key mr.
Nebih And some other people are reminding me of what our new egg affiliate url is it's LMG.gg slash new egg
Feel free to use that Link and then go and pick up an arc b580 12 gig gddr6
GPU with the Intel holiday bundle, which I remind you includes battlefield six
There you go or One of these other games if you prefer dying light the beast assassin's creed shadows or sieve
Uh seven for some reason or other. Yeah, you probably won't yeah, you probably won't take that last one. That's cool. Um
Yeah Great high end high detail 1080p gaming card
Even can handle 1440p if you don't mind a little bit of you know xcss upscaling
um Just yeah super quality card. I um, I actually didn't realize this until I was chatting with him at ces
But david gochie who did the most recent arc challenge and actually sold. I think he had a
30 80 30 90 or something like that really solid. I don't know how it was, but it was really solid
You know how at the end of the video. He's like i'm just staying on arc
He's still on arc. That's cool. And we I was chatting with him about it. That's really cool. And he's like, yeah, I've just
I've just disengaged from because because we were talking about how
I came across a comment on um
I think it was on the The AMD the AMD show coverage video where I pulled a gpd win five out of my backpack and was like
I've been playing expedition 33 on this at 1080p like epic details. No upscaling required
Um, it's incredible to be clear. I'm not targeting 60 FPS at epic on it
I have to go down to like medium or high or use a little bit of upscaling in order to uh, if I wanted like 60 plus FPS
The point is just like it looks I was like this looks
So good. It's absolutely incredible. And I'm not using any upscaling. Um
AMD's Strix halo chips are absolutely incredible, but they're expensive
That was sort of the point that I was going through so someone um actually lead me in the comments and they were like
Expedition 33 is a piece of s*** game because you actually can't run it without any kind of upscaling or gross taa or whatever
I spent like several hours trying to fix it and turn all that stuff off and I couldn't I returned the game
And I was like, okay first of all brother I
Sorry What I meant was I set my upscaling scale to 100 percent
If that still has some filters or whatever that bother you might be then fine, but I think my I think my meaning was clear
number two Get over it
It's a great game If it is even at all even remotely a genre you enjoy
Or you just are looking for an adventure and a and a wonderful story with engaging characters
Get over it and just play it um And so I was so I was talking to david about that interaction
And and he was and that was when he mentioned like yeah, I'm just I'm I've just disengaged myself
from needing to obsess over every pixel and I'm so much happier
And and I he said it at the end of the the arc challenge
I just wasn't sure if it would stick but he's still running his b580 and guy's a gamer
Like don't don't kid yourself. It's not that he just like
No, I don't know didn't really care that much because he doesn't play games that much. It's like
A gamer definitely a gamer confirmed Verified actual gamer. Yeah
And uh, I just I don't know man. I'm just like Whenever I hear people freaking out about GPU prices. I'm like, hey, we're hear me out
Buy the one that isn't unreasonably priced
Just buy it
I want to leak it so bad, but I won't but we have something very cool coming for this whole
Arc price check thing
That's all I'm gonna say Seriously, that's all I'm gonna say you can't do that. It's all I'm gonna say that's that's you don't have that power. Wait. He does
He's gone drunk with power he owns half the wancho for for two weeks
It's not even it's not even wancho stuff though. It's it's a different department
Um, but yeah, no, I I really wanted to show it off this week and to use it this week
Yeah, uh, but we won't we will we will use it in the future. I think I know
That does sound very exciting and I'm excited for it. Yeah Uh, all right. What are we supposed to be doing now? Oh Floatplane announcement
Yes, sir. Dan. I'm on it. Oh my god. There's so many more topics still. That's fine. This is fun
I'm having fun. This uh, wait, I was about to say the show is brought to you today by Floatplane. Uh, no nice
No, yeah, it's brought to you with Floatplane. Heck. Yeah
Where is the Floatplane? Oh, there they are
Luke Did you know that ces happened this week? Look, I'm just reading sammy's thing here. I take no responsibility for this
I didn't know because nothing eventful happened
Okay, that is actually that is actually legit. This is why I kind of opted to not go sort of saw it coming
this was the
lowest energy ces That I think I have been to
Maybe the recovery year the first year after covid
Because it was pretty slow, but there was at least tech that year
But like in terms of people it was pretty slow. I asked a lot of brands like look
Level with me here. I'm not leaking anything. You know that I've been around for a while. Yeah
Do you really have anything what's shaking?
No, not even bacon. No and there was a lot of people that were like, you know, I can't say but
Yeah, I'd be like, well, I'm considering like not going and I'm trying to figure out if I need to go and they'd be like
Yeah, okay for the first time ever I don't know if you know this
I came back a day early I didn't until like
Half an hour before the show someone mentioned you got here Wednesday or whatever and I was like, whoa
No, I got here. I got here yesterday afternoon. I was in office yesterday
I was supposed to be I was supposed to be flying back this morning
And I came back. I came back a full day early. It's not even that normal for you to still be there on friday
Yeah, like like doing the show from vegas. We've done that. No, not abnormal. He means like that would be normal to
To be there all week. Yeah, but like we we got some stuff done ahead of time
So MSI sent over there that monitor with their fifth gen qto led panel
So we were able to talk about like hardness improvements and magenta, whatever that was a sponsored video full disclosure
But it was still cool new tech that was coming at ces
What was another one we did early we did we did del's like 6k monitor early also sponsored we and then once I got there
I I got briefed on the new dlss stuff
Like the night we arrived which was on the weekend which is still before the show
So I had all the information but then of course, you know
with any brand and No offense to envidia, but particularly envidia what I'll do is I'll write branching versions of the script
One where everything they tell me is totally true
And one where there's a little bit of bullshit mixed in with it
So you always go with the one on the left and this time. No, oh dude
Have you tried dlss 4.5? No, we'll get to that in a second. Okay first
So I got briefed on that I I think I I think I wrote and shot
The AMD coverage because we had a pre-briefing on that
And then Intel I was able to do on the very first day of the show because I had that sponsored thing for MSI's laptops
they wanted to show off their prestige laptop and their stealth
And both of them contained panther lake and I was like, okay, listen guys
Here's what we can do I can do a dedicated sponsored LTT on these two laptops and you can have 300 000 views
or Hear me out Panther lake is kind of a big deal
I really want to talk about panther lake You can be the vehicle through which I talk about panther lake
That will get probably closer to a million views
And by the time I start talking about your laptop probably half of those people will have tuned out
That is still more. Yeah, then you will get that is still a w if I make the video just about your laptop
And they were super understanding about that And we're basically like, okay, go ahead. So I pretty much got my entire panther lake coverage
Which I had all the slides from From the way better presentation that was like the architectural dive
Rather than the keynote. I didn't even see the keynote. I heard it was
trash I've heard some very bad things And I'm actually super glad that I ended up taking that approach rather than even I didn't even go to the keynote
Keynotes are so dumb. Yeah, um because there was actually a spontaneous post on the subreddit like the LTT subreddit that was just like
Hey, thanks Linus for providing like a really balanced take on panther lake
And I was like, I didn't even really feel like Like I had a particularly because you didn't see the keynote is because I didn't watch the keynote
So I literally actually just looked at the panther lake like architectural
Brief and I looked at the at the lineup
And I looked at what they're claiming in terms of like GPU and efficiency improvements
And I was like and and then I I was able to game on it at the MSI booth
And I was like, yo this thing's sick What games do they have available I I didn't ask for more than just cyberpunk because I've seen it on so many different platforms
That you just you get a feel you get a feel for it and I was able to feel enough that I was like
I am justified in being enthusiastic about this. That was all I needed to know, right? It's show coverage
It's not a full review at the event that we went to for panther lake a bit ago
Um, they had a a laptop there that you could game on but they had one game
It was already loaded in you couldn't open the settings. Oh, I was allowed to you could see the frame rate
And it was a unreleased game
Okay So I can't feedback being just like guys you got to be slightly more useful than this meant actually nothing like yeah
Please uh, and they seemed receptive. So that was cool. Um, anyway, so yeah, so by like day two
I think it was was it tuesday or wednesday it was whatever was the day of the robot fight. Um, yeah ufb
Five here hold on let me find out where's that going up by the way
We're gonna have a video and then also I think they're gonna have their own things. Okay, so january 6th
So by tuesday Because that was so sunday monday. You were like done by tuesday. I had nothing booked for tuesday morning. Yeah
So that's where finally coming all the way around to sammy and his Floatplane announcements
Sammy pings me. He's like, yo, do you want to just go hang out on the show floor?
I really like doing these. Um, so yeah
Sammy and I hung out on the show floor. We went through the uh, was this the north hall or the central hall?
I forget which one it was but we just did we did one of the halls together
And it was cool. We found some cool stuff. I found some cool contacts. I found uh, I found a company that makes um
Um, like a really cool competitor to conformal coding
That's like you can rework. You can apply it without masking
Right, so we're gonna we're gonna hopefully collaborate with these guys
I found um, I found a company that does like flight sims
But like professional ones. Oh, but also
A cut down educational version that's still like
Pretty legit, but doesn't have the motion controls and stuff and they're down to collab on like a $10 versus $100,000 flight sim
That's cool. Actually, that's so i'm super excited about that. That's awesome. So it was like it was great
I actually got to attend the show floor as like a networking event for for a day
And then I had the I had the the bot fight thing, which was something
um It was quite the experience
We've talked for a long time. I actually had I had a conversation with emma about this this morning
she was asking me about CES and
Like why didn't I go? Yeah, and I I gave this spiel of just like there's I just knew there was nothing this year
Like I just I just it was in my bones. I knew there was nothing this year
I also tried to get suss out feelings from these different companies and no one was really giving me anything and
Usually you can kind of see in the eyes of somebody When you ask them like is there really going to be anything you can see the like
The like the the competitive spirit a little bit when they're like, I can't tell you but you can just see it
They're like, I've got some feel the energy. It's like when I guess price like that
Yeah, like you can tell if you're close, you know, yeah, yeah
And I was just like there just wasn't anything Um and salmo asks did you get anything good for the tonight show? I did
There was like gimmicky stuff that I think is gonna is gonna sell really well for like a tv audience
um, and there's like Wow factor stuff, but it's not an LTT video. It's not something you should buy, you know
So this this was my next point necessarily some of it's pretty cool some of it's pretty cool
This feels like an additional inflection point because we had the original you and me working together
We walk into the little little thing at ncx and there's a mountain of products
And you just film film film and then you're done and then there was partway through
I don't necessarily know the exact year, but there was partway through when we started having discussions about like
We need to make the content now. We need to become the news because that's what I used to say. Yeah, there isn't enough
Interesting automatic news. There isn't enough products coming out. Yeah, this feels like another dip in that
Where like your show floor walk where you're saying oh, I networked and I found these interesting video ideas
Oh, we can make this video idea on this this flight sim thing that makes a ton of sense to me personally
We can't just wait for it. That's what we have to do now. Yep. Yeah, and that's where the tech house
That's where the tech house comes in emma brought up the tech house Emma was like the tech house makes a lot of sense now because you guys have to take an additional step forward
To push even harder to make the news or whatever whatever however you want to define it
Yeah, we will and it's it's it's not necessarily
A doom and gloom time. It's just adapting with the times and now we're in kind of a
Two-year cadence almost we're like, I bet you next ces will be decently interesting
I think so I think computex is actually going to be pretty sick computex will probably be pretty good because next ces will be interesting
I I guess I just kind of like Casually dropped that by the way. Um, yeah, we should talk about that
I don't know It's up somewhere. Yeah, I know. I just don't know how it works
um I I'm like boomer trying to navigate this. I'm going to guests
I don't
understand tickets
Request tickets something
Posted on instagram. I mean it's got to be Okay shows come on
Okay, the tonight show with jimmy fallon
Okay Come on. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. I think I got it. I think I got it. Here we go
I just need to bit it but
I might meet jason the mow that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty sweet. I uh
Okay, this is going to be embarrassing. I have to look up this guy
Oh, I think he's snl Comedian writer known for his work on Saturday Night Live. Okay, that's cool
Super cool. Okay So, yeah, thursday Thursday put in your account. There's thursday january 15th
I'm gonna be on the tonight show with jimmy fallon. We've actually got a bunch of really cool stuff
um, that's gonna It's more mainstream
Because you know, we're we're talking to a very different audience from the LTT audience and you got to be able to kind of hold it
There's limitations. Yeah, like I saw I saw a really incredible chocolate 3d printer
That it it's like on demand So it takes only I think it only took about 30 seconds
No, no, it was more than 30. Sorry. It's about two minutes to like poop out a chocolate like about this big like a chocolate 3d printer
And so you basically go. Yeah, I want this one I want it in this shape and it prints it for you and then it comes out and it's like ready to eat
And I was like that'd be super cool. How on earth would we get it there?
Yeah, that could make a lot of sense. But if it was if it was there and that's difficult
How fun would it be to start the segment being like, okay, okay, jimmy
Pick what shape of chocolate you want and he goes like And then we get a little bit of footage of it starting and I go okay
And then try this piece of chocolate and then give them a piece of chocolate in that shape or something while we wait for this
To go. Let me show you some other cool stuff. Yeah, hey
Feels like uh feels like we've waited long enough for our chocolate. Is it done? It's done
And then there's chocolate jimmy and then he eats it exactly right like that kind of thing but just the
The logistics of getting something like that relatively short time frame on a short time frame just seemed like they just weren't really going to happen
Yeah Um, so yeah, there was there was lots of stuff. We had lots of options. We actually gave them a menu that was like
A dozen plus items long and I think we've narrowed it down to about half a dozen now
Do you guys do the like writer hunt again? We actually had um
Or procurement hunt. Yeah, who was it who was on that?
We had someone who was basically dedicated for a couple of days to
Finding things for the tonight show which makes no financial sense because no
Not because they didn't try But I wasn't compensated in any way for the last appearance and I doubt that I am this time because it's it's i'm canadian
And so it's like harder for them to pay me Or harder for me to accept the funds for some like tax or production reasons. I don't remember it wasn't their fault
Um, but it's like it's not it doesn't make it doesn't make any like like like money sense, but it's fun
Yeah, it's just fun. It's like it's neat. It's like, uh, like someone someone made an offhand comment to me about that that ufb robot fight thing
They were like, oh, I assumed they just threw like a big bucket of money at you and I was like, no
It just sounds fun if they did I would have disclosed it so you would have known but also I was just like
I don't know. Fuck it. I'm gonna do a robot fight
Come on. I keep telling people why wouldn't you dude? I'm so I feel like I'm so easy to figure out
Like I'm telling people I'm in my zero fucks given phase in my career
so when I decide to just like
realistically spend a lot of money to go and like
I don't know be on tv and meet Jason Momoa because that sounds pretty cool
And also Fallon super cool too by the way from from the limited interactions. I've had with them. We're not like bffs
um Or if I want to like be in a robot fight, I don't know man. I'm just I'm just gonna do it
I don't care anymore. Yeah, sweet. I don't care anymore. I'm just gonna go for you want to leave CES early because it's just kind of boring
Yeah, then I might just do that too. Yeah, whatever Uh, let me check. Let me check the jimmy fallon leads chats
Um, shout out. There is a point in time where that would not have been an option
Shout out Jake belivance for all the cool stuff that he posted. I think sean caldera might have been our guy
Uh, or was it was it no one? Uh, I can't remember who was assigned to that might have been no one. Uh, but yeah, we
We we put in the work we put in the work
Uh, oh right. What was I supposed to be talking about? Oh, yeah, okay other exclusives over at LMG.gg
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Our discussion question is what was Linus luke and Dan's tech of the year?
Who's your tech of the year I would love to stay big screen beyond two if i've tried it yet. You still haven't tried it. I have not
You haven't tried it. No, I need to know if i'm gonna get one or not
It's all hinging on you. I told you you could borrow it
Yeah, I forgot. Yeah, you should just borrow it. Also. I can't do that. It's your it's your unboxing experience
I already unboxed it. It can't come used I can you you you paid for it. I unboxed it. I put it on my face and it's never turned it on
Did you get a little can for it? No, I didn't you know what the worst part is I was at like those are cool though. I was at pymax's booth
Their new ones might be a better beyond than the beyond
There's trade-offs. There's trade-offs. They don't have the custom fit gasket
Um, are they like huge like the pymax? No, okay, they have a new one
um Actually, is that is that video up yet?
There's uh, there's a ShortCircuit ShortCircuit. I'm not I'm not that worried about it. I'm happy that the space seems to be moving right now
It doesn't I love they're pushing it forward. Yeah. Yeah, I purchased something that I was really excited about and that's okay
I'm not like if there's if the if the steam frame is really cool great if the new pymax is really cool great
That's not a problem. I think it's great. I don't I don't want that space to die
um And competition is good And I I'm not I'm not gonna be frustrated about my purchase because something happened
To me that delayed my ability to use it So are you just trying to show off how much more mature you are than the average consumer right now?
Like I'm just I'm trying to figure out your motivation for giving this spiel
I think it's just like I don't I don't love that like see I'm just about that. Oh my god. I just um
I don't love that uh Beyond big screen beyond has been put in this like position
Of like does everyone regret their purchases now that there's competitors and it's like
Whatever dude, they made a cool thing like the pymax one is not as light
Is it the crystal light? Is that where we're looking at? No, it's the dream or error or something dream air
Dream air se maybe. Yeah, there it is there. That's that's one. Okay, so here it is pretty small
So it doesn't have the custom gasket. It's not as light
But they do have a number of options for
the um Wait, is this the se?
Yeah, yeah, that is not the resolution that they told me. Okay. Check the dream air not se
Okay, because they told me a different resolution. It might just look really similar 3840 by 3552 for the non
Okay, good. Then the non se is the one that I was covering at the show. So should we check that out?
The fov seems way higher than the um, I mean, they've always been fov heavy, haven't they?
That's kind of their deal like their thing. Yeah, so
These are these are 4k per eye
up to 90 hertz Um, do they come in clear though?
clear Like the the the the big screen beyond comes out here. Yeah, dude. It's so sick
It is so cool. Like that has a value. Yeah, it actually does. Oh, yeah
I think they're I think their cable management is a little better
They did a cool cable that splits the DisplayPort and the other data and it actually plugs in on both sides
so it doesn't And their rationale for it was that very lightweight headsets if they're being tugged from one side are more susceptible for sure
That makes sense. Um, it's inside out though. Did you get it clear when I got the translucent orange? It's both
So that's pretty cool. There's two versions of the dream air
One that uses lighthouse tracking and one that uses slam
Which is pretty cool. They can't be unlike pymax's other ones that have like swappable modules and stuff
It's not modular. You can't like you can't just turn one of them into the other one
But it looks pretty good. It looks pretty darn good. Very impressive
Um, I am gonna be take a total cop out path here and I'm gonna say steamframe
Okay, it's not out yet. Yeah, that doesn't seem fair. Is that a hack? That does seem like a hack
Because I'm so excited for it. That is sick. I think I think for this answer
It has to be stuff that came out this year. It's for reasons that are so specific to me
like I have that weird fanless cooled machine
in my rec room that I use for vr and specifically the big screen beyond twos like breakout box like doesn't really work to
Get into where the io is In that case and their cables a little shorter than the index
So like the cable management kind of sucks and I can't really like I can't really put that cool machine up on a little pedestal
Where I want it without putting a hole in the side of my media console
So it's just been like kind of janky and annoying me and being able to switch to wireless is going to make it all look
So much nicer. It's like So specific to exactly how I want to use it
Although I'm going to have four holes in my ceiling now for where my base stations used to be
And I will not need those anymore. I was unnecessary, but hey anyone looking for some base stations
All right. Okay, so pick something for this year. You know what? Okay, fine
I'm going to go with something that is out this year even though it kind of sucks so far and I'm going to go with micro RGB
backlights Many sorry mini RGB mini not micro, but but RGB backlighting that
That new high sense tv the 116 inch that we looked at earlier this year
Not there yet because you get when you have a dimming zone that isn't just a glow when it's like a colored glow
Not great whenever you spot it and the and the motion response on it was not good the pixel to pixel
Transition times are just too long Uh, but I can see where they're going with it and it's like
Really cool really exciting Yeah
All right, how'd we how'd we get on this subject? I mean that was the subject so you can go back to topics now. Yeah, that was a merge message
No, that was a full plane announcement talking about ces. Oh, was it? Yeah
Whoa, I don't know my job is just to talk so like
Well, you did it correctly and then second guess yourself. Thanks, tan. Wait classic
Uh, you don't have to you're great something. I want to throw it there really quick was that I got my reddit account back
Oh, hooray I don't remember which day it was. I think it was like Tuesday or something
um, I got a text message when I was still asleep because
Timezones and stuff. I guess never noticed it and then got a quick call
Probably one of the fastest calls. I've literally had in my life. Okay from a robot at dbrand, which is how they will be referenced
um, I didn't even know that this
This robot had my number But they called me and I recognized the robot and was like, okay. I picked up the phone and they were like, hey
Uh, I have a contact Do you want me to solve it?
And I was like, yeah, that'd be sweet. They're like cool. I'll loop you in bye click
gone
I was like Oh
What and then like literally like 10 minutes later or something I got an email from somebody being like, yeah, I can solve that
Just do this thing real quick. I did that thing real quick. I count back. Wow
That was crazy
That was pretty cool. Not gonna lie rag gate to us on uh, in Floatplane 6 robot. It's good to be the king
That was pretty sick pixel cat now. That's influential. That was uh, that was pretty cool. Where is this man's wikipedia page?
That should be on the wikipedia page aided by a robot got his reddit account back
But yeah, thanks dbrand. I uh, I appreciate it and thank you robot
Um, I much want to bet that your wikipedia page is already better
Better than what better than it was when we looked at it earlier in the show today. Oh, maybe it's never gonna happen
I mean, I said that about myself Wait, why can't I I can't even find it anymore?
Isn't it you go into that reddit thread and then click on it, right? Was that where? Oh, yeah, that's what you did before
Okay, let's see. Let's see if it's improved. Oh, come on guys get it together
Oh, man, all right
What else do we have here at least you should call them robot, but they're they're specific like branding around it is robot though
So I'll be I'll be nice, but I do like robot. This is cool. Um
Co-founder of both cd project red and gog has acquired gog from cd project red reiterates philosophy of freedom independence and genuine control
It's cool that cd project red wanted to divest of this asset to focus on other things and didn't sell it to
Private equity. Yeah, I dove into this a decent amount
Yeah, and it just actually seemed totally fine wholesome and chill. Yeah
I was like, where's the badness in this and it never showed up
Isn't it cool when cd project red just like behaves all cool. Yeah. Yeah, they don't always get things perfectly right
No, nobody does. No, they don't but I see I think that's important. I think that that at this point
it is just such a bad faith
Bullshit take to talk about, you know, how crappy cyberpunk was it launch?
Anyone who was upset about it got a refund
And they made the game good and a lot of those people just bought it again. What more can they do?
I don't know why this made me think of it, but they will never solve starfield
Starfield that's Bethesda. They will I know. Oh, okay. I thought I'm sorry. I thought you were
I was like, what does that have to do with cd project? Nothing. Okay, your base gamer status is removed immediately
I don't care about we tell wow. They're different companies. You're done. Wait, you're a starfield fan. No, no, no
Oh, no, the did he thought that they never I'm thinking like of the great comebacks. It's like they were it's fairly similar time, right?
It was it was cyberpunk and no man's sky And I know a lot of people have looked at starfield
And been doing the meme of like poking it with a stick and being like, hey do the thing
It's not gonna happen. Okay. So binky draws says the most they can do is not let that situation happen again. No
People they were human and they made a mistake
And they're gonna still be human and they will still make mistakes
Ideally it's not the same and then but they might be different humans, but it might and it might be different human
Actually, not might it will be different. We're talking about a corporate entity. It's not all the same people
I can more or less guarantee that people have been hired people have been fired and people have quit in that period of time
Of course, I mean it's a gaming studio. So just layoffs
Have they done that? No, I don't think so. I don't know if uh, yeah, I don't know CDPR has done that infinite money
This isn't microsoft Dan. Oh, I'm so sorry. What are you talking about? You could just say any other
company
I think that's something that that in our in our fandom and in our passion sometimes even we we we get
I don't know we we get just sort of emotional about sometimes and we go well like
Well, like doing better should mean being perfect going forward and that's not gonna happen
That's never gonna happen for me. I promise you that it's never gonna happen for Linus media group or creator wearouts
We had a thing show up on the subreddit earlier this week where someone ordered
I think it was an extra large hoodie and they got a small and then they contacted customer service
And we offered to send a replacement and they got a small again
And they contacted customer service for a third time
And asked for a new hoodie and we sent them a small
Nobody would do that on purpose We need to like hand deliver them the right size or something
There's no there's no malice you know
But sometimes sometimes communication errors happen
Sometimes somebody didn't get their coffee when they pick an order and it was the same person who skipped their coffee like a week later
and sometimes sometimes an entire batch gets mislabeled and
You I I legitimately don't know what happened with that yet
We will find out fortunately It was a us customer within the us
And so like we can get it back to the dc maybe and find out if it was a mislabeling on the packaging or a mispick like
Things happen. I mean
um It's not good
Obviously, it would be better if everyone just you know bought a game that was perfect out of the box
Or bought a product and got the right thing in the mail. I'm at the third time at least
but like You know, I think what's more important is that you move forward
In good faith you try to fix things and I I think that's like that's such a that's like my corner
That's my cornerstone these days. That's the thing that I'm kind of clinging to is the concept of good faith engagement
as long as someone is Engaging in good faith, which means
With a genuine shared interest in reaching a mutually acceptable solution
Right, they actually want the problem resolved because sometimes you have people who don't actually want to resolve the problem. Yeah
They just want to be angry You know, they just wants to watch the world burn master Wayne. How's uh, how's triple small shirt guy
Doing they they basically I haven't checked back in but what they said was at this point
I think I just want to refund which we'd be we'll be totally fair
Totally totally fair. We'd rather get you your shirt
But if we can't then we'll settle for just you know a refund
We should fix it by sending them the correct size and also a small in the same box
Stop
Um What are you what is what Dan and adam? What are you guys talking about in the chat Dan says we should hand deliver a small the fourth time
No I also said he was trying to move the dead stock
Oh my god Did adam actually did he did he comment on this?
If someone would let me I would hand deliver it lol. Yeah, no adam. That's not
How these things work that would be really funny too take the xl label off an xl and put a small on it
Even though it is an xl shirt hand deliver it. Here's your here's your small. Yeah, buddy. Wow. You've really put on above in the beyond
Geez it's a bunch of sizes up
Oh, no, you know who'd end up being too small as if you try to send the correct size and a small that's funny. No, no
Um all right
What else we got here Uh
C. S. Of wacky stuff Oh, yeah, we could do that s2026 they put ai in all sorts
Of wacky stuff. Okay, and so we're supposed to rate out of
Five, okay, how appropriate we think the ai is okay. Why don't we start with the ai barista?
From bosh okay
bosh debuts alexa plus for coffee
Are you laughing Dan this is serious this is serious coffee shit here Dan besser
Is it just like i mean coffee does that to you but yeah bosh is new
Jesus I
Amazon button to order more toilet paper. Okay, stick that right on the front
Bosh is new ai powered personal ai barista for its 800 series espresso machines built on amazon's alexa plus brings
conversational control to coffee brewing but
Apparently the ai struggled a bit with simple tasks its predecessor handled with ease
All right out of five with five being the most appropriate. I don't drink coffee
But I think I'd give this like a two because I feel like it's just going to select from like
I don't know six different options that it can do and it looked like there was a screen on it so you could just
Poke the thing and I feel like people have this whole thing of like don't talk to me before I've had my coffee
And now they made up. No, it's a one people have a thing that says don't talk to me before I've had my coffee
And now they're making you talk to your coffee machine. I think it's a one. I'm giving it a one a one. Yep
I I feel like saying is don't talk to me before I've had my coffee
And then they're like, hey, you actually have to talk to things before you've had your coffee
I don't disagree with you. I'm just worried that you're painting yourself into a corner a little bit
I might be because there could be something else. It's so much dumber. It's a two. All right. It's a two. I'm going with one
I think I think it's a two because it looked like you could kind of override it
I think it's a one because of how much
How little I would need to change and to be clear. I don't think coffee. What's the bottom of this scale, but how
One to five. Okay. So one is the bottom. Yeah, how little how little I would need to alter what my like morning coffee experience would be
So I'm comparing this to how much better it would be to just have a preset
Like No, that's what I'm saying. Just press the button is like you saw me using the super automatic that we have in the writing lounge
Or the writing department area. Yeah, you just push a button. Yeah
But like there are different like versions of coffee it can make I assume
I was I was looking at a super automatic. You know, I'm in the market
Um, there's some of them can do 30 40 types of of coffee
Yeah, and most of them just do espresso plus some form of milk
Which is basically all you need like if it could do
It does it does that you don't have to talk to it
Yeah, is it little arc thing they put on top of the coffee. They're not going to be able to do that
Yeah, they won't be able to do that But if it could yeah, well, but then it wouldn't eat AI for that anyway
Okay, so it's a one then put a put a bird on it Alexa coffee machine. You know what I'm going with two
I don't want to paint myself into a corner. No, I'm just gonna one then. I'm just I'm just I think it's just actually stupid
I don't think anyone wants this. I think it's dumb. I was messing with you. I also think it's a one
All right, let's move on. Do you want to bring them up and then I'll do the I'll read the things. Uh, sure. Yeah
Samsung showcased AI
OLED concepts
Why like a cassette player and a turntable
Where the cassette uses AI to provide interactive display features and music recommendations
And the turntable integrates AI driven visuals on its circular OLED display
This one
One I'm gonna go with two
One I think this is a solid two
Because unlike the coffee maker where it serves absolutely no purpose that anyone has ever asked for ever
They're actually attempting to do something is kind of remind it kind of reminds me of like a laser rock show
But way dumber So that makes it
Makes it not quite a one
All right, do you want to bring up the next one? Yeah, sure. I'm trying to figure out what this thing even is, but
Go the govi life smart
Nugget ice maker That is a very um
That is a very hey English isn't my first language word to use to describe anything to do with food
Nobody wants other than chicken nuggets. Nobody wants a nugget of anything anywhere near any food
So the the smart nugget ice maker pro introduced at ces 2026
Uses ai noise guard
trained to detect freeze ups and automatically defrost
So the machine runs more quietly and efficiently
Oh my god, I think
I think This is a four for me
Imagine how much more ice cream
McDonald's would have sold if they had an ai to detect when their ice cream machine isn't working
Imagine it now imagine that probably that wouldn't work anyway because that wasn't really the issue
The thing for me is like if this is if this is just modern branding stuff
And it's really just you know, there's a little bit of machine learning in there
All right, it might be cool. I think if they're like trying to slap llms in this thing, it's stupid
But I think I think it might actually just be
Okay, we need the stupid trendy words, but there's actually just like a little bit of
Machine learning in here, which is like pretty all right But if you if you want me to talk to my freaking ice maker, no, I don't think there's which I don't think they're doing
Yeah, so like I think this might actually just be a branding thing
Because like their actual name for it is the gov life smart nugget ice maker pro
They didn't throw ai in the name
They did put smart in there although admittedly that's more iot era. I'll take I'll take smart right now over ai
I didn't like smart when it was around. It's like Windows 8.1
It's amazing how good the phantom menace looks
In retrospect. Yeah, now that the now that the new things exist jar jar banks. You know what?
Not that bad. Maybe he was okay
All right next up g e's new smart refrigerator with kitchen assistant
Combines a built-in barcode scanner that automatically adds groceries to a digital list
With an ai powered camera system for tracking contents and reducing food waste
Alongside voice and touch controls to help manage shopping meal planning and inventory
What do you got
I wouldn't buy one because of data tracking and
Data invasion all that kind of stuff If i'm purely if I completely ignore all of those very valid very large concerns
It's probably like a five. I give this one a three. Okay
Because I would want something that does all of that stuff
But this one won't Yeah, okay. I mean that's fair. I so I was going on the assumption that all of the insane privacy concerns are not a thing
Yeah, and I was going on the assumption that it worked both of which are
Not okay. No way. Yeah. Yeah, there's no way if I had a fridge that legitimately was like, hey
Here's everything that's in here. You could make this if it was doing all of this locally, which it's for sure not
I don't even care if it was doing all of this. I don't care
Why you could just list those things out give it to grok if it wants to make porn of my celery stalks then
Let it do it If I never if I never had to think it's not the problem
I don't care. I still don't okay. There's like big problems with this
I can detect illnesses and sell that data and like there's lots of issues
I would be over it if it simplified meal planning. That's my line
Meal planning sucks. It's like my least favorite thing in my entire life
you can already use LLM systems for meal planning, but I won't because it's not built into my fridge
That's dumb if this actually worked If this actually worked and I just it would just like
crap out Like a thing that I could make and just give me instructions and I made it and it was delicious and nutritious
You know what, you know, you know how you you've talked about how you you don't have like a cook
Yeah, I don't you should almost have like someone come in and just look at what you've got and make you recipes
And then have them leave That would be that would be that would be the most unhinged thing ever
Well, we could get advanced on this. What are you guys even talking about? That's not advanced his job
He's an executive assistant not a personal assistant. They're not the same thing. Are you not an executive?
If you if you had a higher output, then it's his job. This would be a thing. Oh my god. Um, anyway
Yeah, it's not gonna I mean it honestly
might be able to suggest recipes
I don't think so because it would have to have It would it would have to properly track
Age of the it would have to properly track what's in it. That stuff is concerning the age of it
The age and date stuff and the consumption of it. What about the stuff you don't put in the fridge?
Like does it know you have rice? Yeah, or beans. Yeah, yeah, like it's yeah, so it just sucks
Yeah, so if it could do its claim and it wasn't obviously
Obviously making a decent amount of money selling all of your data that I think it's really cool actually
Yeah, but it is making a bunch of money selling all of your data, which is like a hard stop for a lot of people and
Mostly for dance reason to be completely honest. It's not gonna work. Anyways. No, it's not gonna work
So like so I'm averaging my scores the theory. Oh, yes
Okay, sure. Then yeah, it's I think it's like a two
All right All right, next up
lip pros Ami desktop ai companion
Uses an eight inch curved OLED screen and an integrated ai needed to be that big to display
A 3d character that tracks your eyes
senses gestures and expressions Interacts contextually to offer an empathetic presence on your desk and is marketed
And I kid you not is marketed as an ai soulmate
I
I've got my score ready
Can we like break the scale? I don't know
It makes me so sad man
It's so dark. It's so dark for humanity
There has to be a one My god, I'm a two and the reason the reason I am averaging
I am averaging the usefulness of ai in in this product, which is that that's the exercise
And I think that yeah, I didn't need to be like an interactive desk soulmate
Probably would need some kind of LLM integration to be even remotely interactive
With the negative four of how much I feel this product should exist and anyone should use it
I ended up at a two God, well one and a half which I rounded to two
Following rounding rules. It is worth pointing out by the way that razor
Um, just because you sponsor the WAN Show doesn't mean we aren't also going to bring up your cringe desktop ai assistant
Oh, I was talking to mark about those before the show. I heard about this. What is it called?
He suggested that we get them for the editors instead of putting in the sad lights
This is making an a like Yeah, razor. Can you send 15 of them people will buy that the marketing is slightly less cringe
But the fact that it's a waifu is slightly more cringe
so And apparently One thing that's cool is you will apparently be able to use whichever LLM you want
A thing that's a little less cool is right now. The one that it works with is grok
Which has had some problems lately
um To put it mildly. It might not be problematic for the people that are buying this
Which is why
Oh my god, look get rid of it. Get rid of it. I can't anymore. Wow
Get rid of it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Okay
Moving on I want to bring up the glide. Yeah, it's up glide has unveiled
A smart hair clipper with an integrated ai
Stylist that uses your smartphone camera and app to map your head
Coach you step by step and adjust both blade length and motion in real time to guide haircuts
and prevent mistakes
Disrupting the 50 billion dollar grooming market. Oh, yeah, all those not extremely highly paid
Barbers we definitely need to disrupt them
That's that's very valiant of you. Good job
Um, I I think it does definitely
Okay, if we go with the assuming it works angle You're selling the data on your skull. I guess which doesn't really matter weird, but probably doesn't matter
Um, if we go with the angle that it works, I think it has quite a bit of utility
Um Is it going to work?
Would the errors with it be really hilarious? Yeah, I think so. Yeah
I think so there's a funny factor
I think that I'm going to go with a one
Really? Yeah, I'm a one on this Why is that? Because the ai in the case of the fridge
There's a real value to the ai being built into the fridge
with this Yeah, it really does not need to be in the clippers. It does not need to be in the clippers really be your phone
Especially with like depth scanning with an iphone. Yeah. Yeah, so it should really be in your phone. Yeah
Yeah, the clippers like actually too close to interact with in any meaningful way to provide any kind of instruction
It was just like a You know you buy the app and you put a phone mount on your mirror
And you put your phone there and then it like guides you
That would probably be fine Adam from uh from cw says in Floatplane chat. I would like to ban
Silicon Valley bros from saying the word disrupt. Yeah
It like kind of was fine and then now when they're going after industries like that. It's like, I don't know. Leave it alone
All right next up multiple
ai smart toilets samsung's
These are devices that use at hem cameras
Optical and acoustics does this mean acoustic sensors. There will be pictures of my what it was that it's a
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm thinking. Hold on. Let me get let me let me get there. Let me get there. Okay. Okay
These devices will use cameras optical slash acoustic sensors acoustic sensors
I was waiting for him to hear that they want to hear my farts, dude
I want I want a database of my farts now and machine learning to analyze urine and stool samples
Uh or stool patterns Detect health related changes and provide insights or alerts via companion apps
They should have the poop olympics. You know how divers have that whole thing about how they're supposed to make a very small splash
It should be
Why would I need that? It's a five. It's a five. Five definitely just for the chance that we can have the poop olympics
It is totally worth it sell pictures of your butt
Not even sell it give pictures of your butt away to toilet companies. We need we need this needs to be like social media
There needs to be like leaderboards. Yeah fart book from letter Kenny. Yeah, this one is more complicated for me than the fridge
Because with the fridge, I don't think that for me personally
I don't think there's much that you would glean from my eating habits that would tell you much about my predispositions
Um, I think that the the capacity to use totally would by the way
It would tell us some stuff It would talk about when you're in various emotional states and blah blah blah blah and then they'll target you with advertising like
It's super a thing for most people maybe
But I make fun of you a lot if you're eating nothing, but like chicken breast
I am a very predictable eater as well. You will learn basically nothing having a rough day. Would you have extra cereal?
No I'm serious. I'm actually serious right now. I've seen you binge on some pickles
Sure, but like then I will go a year without eating a single pickle
Which has nothing to do with my emotional state like I just
I I promise you that and I know that everyone would say this
And maybe that's a personal thing and maybe you're right. I promise you it would tell you nothing
But for a huge amount of people, which is I think more of what we're judging this and that's fair. No, no
Not necessarily. So this is for the self. I'm saying for you're right in general
But for me personally the fridge thing is way less of a concern for me because you would you would not learn that
I'm about your fridge is for your family. This is true
But by the time any of this works my kids will be moved out. No. Oh
Uh, what if what if they're having um
Cranberry juice, what if one of your daughters is having cranberry juice?
Well, like us by the time my daughter is drinking from my fridge like by the time these ai fridges work
My daughter's going to be drinking cranberry juice out of her own fridge. There's no way it's happening in the next like five to 10 years
No, no shot Either way my point is I think that's bold. You think so. I think that's bold
You think you think it'll work in the next few years for literally just that scenario that I described of
Person of certain gender consuming certain thing
Lining that up with certain types of advertising I just don't think I wouldn't be that surprised if that's like soon. You think so you think it'll actually work
It's a specific reference. Yeah, it's like to indicate that you have a urinary tract infection probably
Um, unless you normally happen to drink cranberry juice. Um
And for men too by the way Um cranberry juice cranberry juice is also just good. Yeah, but like it's also associated with certain things
But also it's good for UTIs
Um, okay, you're making me come around on a little bit. However, however, I do stand behind that the the poop
is going to have Information about your diet and also the functioning of your body one is very egregious
Yeah, we've talked about this on wham before that the fridge will not totally the fridge bothers me still a lot less
Yeah, so so this one Um, however, however
However This one still ends up
being a three for me Because the necessity of it actually being
Included in the toilet for it to function
To me is very high However, how much I want it in my life is a one
Because I this this one Yeah, this one. I'm like deeply concerned that if you you take like one poop that has blood in it or something
And you're somewhere where there's poor legislation
Governing this and your insurance company can like before you even know there's a problem
Like cut you off if it can if it can tell you are super sick and you open the uber app
Nice gonna charge you more for a car. Yep. Yep
Oh All right, what else we got? Ah, yes last one last one and then we're and then we're over this okay
Samsung has a whole lineup of AI kitchen appliances including a fridge and a wine cellar
So for the vino files, which apparently the more correct term is actually
We know files. Oh, we know files. Whatever. It doesn't matter. The point is
Samsung has got the bespoke AI wine cellar
Which uses AI vision with built-in cameras to recognize wine labels
Track each bottle's location And update a smart things AI wine manager
The notes say sheesh. I just wanted to get a little drunk
I actually think this one
Assumption that it works seems like a five or a four
If it doesn't work now, this one will work a lot faster than the like general fridge one we've been talking about. Yeah
Um, because it's like way more specified Yeah, if it knows its own layout and everything you're putting into it is a particular shape
This seems like it could it could pretty much be like amazon just walk out
Like go-store technology, but like way way way easier
Speaking of which there is a further correction to our correction on the amazon go-store. Oh, yes. Yeah last week
I feel dumb. I should have noticed this. Yeah, just walk out is totally still a thing. They're just deploying it differently
So when I said cancel, I just meant that like particular
Implementation of it. Oh, I meant the other thing. Oh, which other thing?
Uh, are we done this? Yeah, we might as well transition into that. We're done that
The the viral reddit post about food delivery apps was just AI slop. Yeah, I'm annoyed with myself
I should have noticed this. Yep. Uh, we we talked about a and I usually pride myself on noticing these things decently
Well, and this was uh, I'm I'm upset with myself
We talked about a viral reddit post last week on wanshow the post claimed to be from a developer for a major food delivery app
Claiming that priority fees and driver benefit fees go 100 to the company
The driver seeing none of it turns out even though this post got almost 90,000 up doots
4.8 thousand comments and even a thousand pieces of reddit gold
It was AI generated when a reporter had reached out for further comment to find out more information
The original reddit posters sent back more information including their photo id and documents, but those were
AI generated when questioned about it the reddit user blocked and eventually deleted their accounts
They used for they the reddit user blocked that person and then eventually deleted their own accounts that they used for communication
Rough there was a lot of signs that this was kind of bs. I think it had
Nuggets of truth that I wanted to be true. So I fell for it, which is
Exactly how this whole thing works. So, you know, yeah, I feel dumb too constant vigilance
I slipped up need to be More on top of it because this is just the world we're gonna live in now
And we're gonna slip up again And we're gonna do our best to put put better safeguards in place so that we don't we will correct when we can
And we'll we're just gonna we're just gonna have to power through it boys because that's all we got
Yep, we just got each other and powering through it. Yep
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It does. Yeah, it does. Oh, do we have all the dates set for this year? We do. I showed it on screen
I actually didn't know that we finalized those. Let me go all
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There's a no notes discord is confidently filed for an initial public offering or ipo
Confidentially, what did I say confidently? Nice
Then were you live when you also said no normally I I don't correct. Oh, yeah, okay
I mean, you know, if we're just wrong, it's probably not a terrible idea. I fixed it for you and now it's truth
He changed the the topic title
Never wrong that is a good. Yeah, I like that line that will be how I manage from from here forth. Okay
Can do no ever Uh-huh if I do sure it's like uh kim jong-un if I do something wrong, it's just the right way to do it now
Yeah, I like that. It's a good good strategy. We're all about rocket science. We're all about dictators here in the west. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah Can you think of an example of a company that serves a penis potato have to do with anything Dan? What?
Everything what he said we're all about dictators. Oh
Sorry
Can you think of an example of a company that serves a niche or loyal fan base then became publicly traded
And actually had its regular customers benefit as a result
Chat you're gonna have to help us out with this Yeah
For sure gonna need help with that Okay, that serves that serves a niche
Or loyal fan base. Okay, then became publicly traded and its regular customers
benefited Cipula says amazon
No You got it the long term. It's got to be long term buddy. Uh-uh
Dude amazon is so in s**tified now
Yeah, I don't think we're gonna come up with anything the next discussion question is what do
Should we do should we do a dictator's shirt?
And it's just like a potato in the shape of a penis with like a hitler stash
Would that be on brand for us? How do you get across at its potato? I guess you can show like yeah
It could look like a potato root growth or whatever
Probably not probably for the best that we don't okay. Anyway, sorry. Um, we do well as a sticker or an enamel pin though
Look at no key in public Stop him
He was so fast. Sorry you guys have to no he's just like I I dot dot dot and then chat help
No, no key has to put that in the timestamps now
No key has to type penis potato
Penis potato conversation we have to have it. There's no way to avoid it because that's what we're talking about no key
That is Would it would it be flaccid? Look the answer is it would probably look better if the answer is that boiled
The answer is that I don't I don't have to do it. I choose to do it to you
Riley told me off for doing bad chapters
I don't think I could imagine riley telling off anyone come on
Does the just to keep the topic going long enough that it has to be its own section. Yeah, does the does the penis potato
Is it is it veiny Oh
Because you do get some potatoes that'll have like a bit of a thing going on. Yeah, I could I could see that or not peeled
Well, not peeled. I think not. Yeah, not peeled for sure like European potatoes
But like should it have like a like a hole in the end
Or like Could it have a couple turnips at the bottom? There's potato eyes
Oh, interesting. So it's like a cornucopia that makes uh a majestic potato schlong
Okay, um, I think that's enough. I think I think that's a section of the show
What do you expect shareholders desired changes for discord might be?
More money or just more users get some of that internet money. Yeah
All right, we kind of talked about panther lake already earlier. I like panther lake. That was one of our topics
We haven't really talked about ces much Or AMD much from ces. Um, did you pay attention to what they were up to? Nope. Yeah, so the rumored 99 50 x 3d 2
Uh did not get announced. Oh Yeah, so instead we get a 98 50 x 3d, which is a quad core, but 400 megahertz maximum boost faster
Uh, cool. And if you compare to like what 9800 x 3ds could do with like pbo, it's it the gap gets even smaller
Yeah, um, no, I'd no no part pricing, which is ominous
Uh, there's one thing I'm pretty excited about. Strix halo got some new skews
So that chip that no one can get that no one can get supply of and even fewer people can afford. Yeah
Uh Now has skews that have fewer CPU cores, but still the full GPU
Okay, so for the like dozen people who
Want that Of which I happen to be one of them
That's pretty cool because I've really enjoyed I i'm i'm like deep into claire obscure now on my gpd win 5 and it's just
I don't think you've mentioned it like 12 times what the last two shows. It's such an outstanding
Gaming experience. It's like a 40 60 mobile, but like in a handheld form factor. It's like I love it. That's really cool
Yeah, it's super cool. Um
That was it Uh NVIDIA's stuff should we talk about that? Oh, right. Yeah, I was going to talk about dlc
Yes, four and a half Okay, so this was like the first time that I can remember that NVIDIA has undersold something
Hmm When they so when we were talking they've ever sold they've oversold literally everything since the 1000 series launch
In my view really 3000 series was pretty sick. You don't think it was
they Fibbed some stuff in their keynotes 3000. I think the one thing that you could go after them for 3000 series was that
8k gaming on the 3090 while technically true. We've we tried it it worked
It was like Unnecessary and I don't think that's a fib so much as a misread of the direction the market was going
um Like there's a lot of games that you could game at 8k on a 3090
um 3000 series pretty sick. I don't know man
Chad if you guys if you like I'm I'm they're still just talking about like president richard tater over here
Maybe I'm uh conflating the price jumps around that time. Well, right, but that was msrp stuff
That was partially NVIDIA's You know participation, but also all I know is that I was frustrated with every one of them at launch. It was
Pretty great. Okay. Cool. All right fair enough. So so dls s 4.5. So dls s 4.5
So when we're doing the pre-brief they're walking us through it and they're basically like yeah, so
We think this is as big a leap forward as dls s 4.0 was in terms of image quality compared to what came before
And um, it's trained on like five times
The the data it's or five times the compute or something. We know whatever metric they're using
And it is like in many cases closer to ground truth than what we call native rendering these days, which
Is actually not compared to the like many many many many many samples that they're taking for their for their
Reference images that they're using for comparison to to benchmark the the image quality of their model
and Like our first question was
Okay, if I'm to believe any of this that you're saying
Then why did you not call it dls s 5? Yeah with the second gen transformer model and they basically went well
It's a second generation of the transformer model. We're not actually adding anything new
We have more multi-frame gen, but it's just more multi-frame gen
So that's actually quite logical. We arbitrarily picked 4.5. Sure
um And that kind of got me going. Okay. Well, then there's no way that it's going to be as big of an improvement as they claim
That it is because there's no way that NVIDIA would have missed an opportunity to market something as
The best thing ever you need more green in your life
Like there's no way So I get into the booth and i'm like shooting my intro and i'm kind of you know dunking on ai a little bit
We have stupid ai cartoon jensen holding a bubble wand and like
We're kind of we're you know, we're kind of teasing them a little bit and then I I get in front of the system and i'm like, holy s***
um Like this looks really good and I saw I saw a fair bit of criticism on the video that I didn't move the character and
Blacksmith bukong That was only
Because they had the character in like exactly the same spot on both systems and I told them I wouldn't but I I could pan the camera
Like I could move the scene And then the other one where they they didn't just not want me to mess up their demo
I was allowed to do whatever I wanted with it, but that wasn't NVIDIA hiding anything
um What's up? Sorry the top comment on this video
um The the this NVIDIA video that you did the top comment how long before fake frames become real frames and video has to make fake
Fake frames out of fake frames. Yeah
That just I don't know just reading that and then can't wait for 50 90 performance on a 60 50 both of those just got me
Giggling they hit pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah, um
Anyway, I got in front of it and I'm switching between the two models
So NVIDIA had set up for their demo so that you could switch between old dlss and new dlss
You could just have a hotkey to toggle the models. It's like
Wow The boiling is
so reduced The general sharpness and clarity is
So much better and when they told me in the pre briefing that it was going to help with HDR
I was like, what are you even talking about? That doesn't even make any sense to me
But then once I saw it in action. I was like
Oh Okay, so
It doesn't it doesn't make your monitor brighter
Obviously, but it does a better job of detecting glowing objects
And particle effects and things in motion that are supposed to be bright. So yeah, it doesn't make your monitor brighter
But it does make the HDR effect more impactful. Sure. It is a
market difference in image quality to the point where
I was looking at it going
For the first time I would just turn this on
No-brainer in any game that it looks this good in
and Like multi-frame gen obviously latency is still going to be a thing, right?
But NVIDIA actually to again to their credit mindblown
Had their demo set up um for uh, shoot. What's that? What's that game called the?
Like the space exploration That the sequel
Help me. What game what game was that? space exploration sequel. Yeah, oh outer worlds too. Thank you. Uh
So on outer worlds too their frame gen demo
Was running on I think it was like 50 60 ti's or something like that
Like they they they didn't just show the top in the top end card. They weren't showing
Here's a card that doesn't even need 6x frame gen
Jenning 6x frames and getting 700 FPS or whatever that they could have done that demo
But they chose instead to do outer worlds too, which was using up to 6x frame gen
And delivering yes high latency because it's generating more frames and it's actually rendering
But a very smooth animation experience and it's important to understand what the point of the demo was
The point of the demo wasn't this is how I would play this game. I wouldn't I would turn down the details
Even the invidia people and you know, I trash on their communication sometimes
But even the invidia people very openly admit Yeah, they wouldn't always even run it on at all and when they do they would run it at various settings
And this is why they offer you those things. I do respect that So the point of that demo wasn't this is how I would run this game with 50 plus milliseconds of latency
The point of that demo was how good do these generated frames look?
And they look Shockingly good for how many of them are
fake frames are generated frames um
I am Dark guy too says pretty sure jensen and other top people just don't care about gaming anymore and leave it to the lower teams
I don't know everything I've heard about jensen is he's like sort of a mark side of a micro manager with everything
And like very involved, but I don't know I don't know how true that remains He's been doing a lot of more like pr like like being a face of the company stuff lately
Interviews and things like that. So I don't know. I've met the guy, but I don't like know him so
Hard for me to speculate on that anyway, um
Yeah, dlss 4.5 the new model
And and you can try it for yourself. You don't have to take my word for it. You can just you can just go
And uh, if you go in the g-force app if you have an invidia card, um fairly recent gen
The older cards have a bigger performance hit on it from my understanding
But you go into the invidia app and then you have to find the option to opt into beta and experimental features
And then you just wait as far as I can tell they might have a check for updates now button
I couldn't find it when I was trying to set this up at a booth and I was in a hurry
But I couldn't immediately find it But I just waited a while and eventually it prompted me to restart the invidia app
Just make sure you got the latest drivers and then you select model l or model m
Depending on your use case and you can go find information on which one is best
I just I turned it on Uh in the MSI booth in borderlands 4 and it was just like
Wow, this is really good in this too. So I've seen it in outer worlds too
I've seen it in black nifu kong and I've seen it in borderlands 2
And it just looks really really good
I um for the first time I'm like, okay. Well, this is just the future then
It's it's interesting to me because like
You know, I don't I don't love the
I can understand it, but I don't necessarily love the like odd developers just suck and need to do better argument
Such uh, that is such a just lazy
But broad strokes. Yes But nonsense argument you look at arc Raiders and embark and you look at 1080s running that game
North of 60 FPS. Yep, and it's like, yeah, man
Well, it comes down to what you're trying to do Some games are about lighting and ambiance and some games are about making sure that looks great
There's different ways to make a game look great and it's not the best looking game. Yeah, so like okay. Yeah
And it's just it's just it's we're in an interesting it's such an interesting crossroads
Uh Because on the competitive side, you don't want that input latency. No, I wouldn't I wouldn't use any of this stuff for a competitive title
But then it is super interesting actually upscaling maybe
That's a longer conversation, but frame gen absolutely not and there's always been different settings depending on if the game is competitive
Or single player or whatever. Yeah, but this is like a very deep divergence
In like how your computer is going to feel
Depending on how you set things up in my opinion
well, I mean again that's uh that's where g-force app comes in
Where it's supposed you just click a button and it gives you the optimal settings. There was a crazy thread. Yeah, where
Uh, a buddy and I were playing a game and he was having some performance issues
And we were trying to figure out what the heck was going on because it was like it was weird
He had like 25 gp utilization and was getting 40 FPS. Okay, just odd. Uh, oh boy. Here we go
Google it brought him to a reddit thread the top voted comment was
Click optimize in the NVIDIA app
top voted comment not not Like everybody's just like yeah, uh, do that not not a debate really
just no the optimize no like You know conversation or anything just like what it could be what it couldn't be what you might prefer
Versus what you might not prefer. Nope. Just click the optimize button and did it work? Yeah
Yeah
Cool crazy Jerome are in Floatplane chat goes uh dlss will become like the lossless slash compressed debate in audiophile
I've seen it might have been drome or the previous time too. I saw this earlier in Floatplane chat and honestly
If we're looking years in the future, I could maybe see that especially if they figure out the the latency thing
I'm talking like well, that'll be that's tough theoretically reflex too is the solution
We'll solve it or reduce the projection. Yeah
Solve it like be better than native like, uh, it's already used in vr
um and
They've they're clearly
Working at it. Uh, if you want to if you want to familiarize yourself with the with the uh with the idea behind it
Here we did we actually did a video on this a number of years ago now. I think
Linus reprojection thought of this here. Hold on
It's called i'm embarrassed. I didn't think of this asynchronous reprojection
It's super cool tech and um the original source is actually
What was uh, what was but yeah, yeah, here we go. So there's comrad stingers original video and download links
So you can like play around with it and then two clicks philip did a video about async reprojection as well
um Oh, hello. Hold on a second youtube
No, that's interesting um
My browser tab just like stopped working. Anyway, the point is
What it does is it couldn't you still be shooting at a phantom?
you could but
There's already latency between you and your opponent
Anyway, we just compensate for it in the same way
We compensate as much as we can so what what async reprojection does is it decouples your inputs
From the game's frame rate. So it moves opponents and other objects based on the updated data
But your interaction with the engine is completely decoupled
and Bothery smooth
So theoretically there should be no downside as long as
Wait for it as long as you're still running at like a reasonable
Frame rate, but it will feel So much betterer. That sounds like it's great for input lag
But I still feel like you might have issues with the whole shooting at phantom's thing
I don't know if this solves competitive gameplay It might be a misunderstanding something or just not very familiar. No, there will still be there will still be disadvantages to having a low
Hold on. I'm actually just trying to think no no hold on a second because
Like if you're trying to snipe like a like a pin-sized head on a on a hill away far away from you
Yeah, they could move enough that it could be a problem But if you're in like a like a close-quarter shotgun fight or something
Um, I yeah, I kind of doubt it. I think you I think you could be not shooting at phantom's
There will I think there will always ask a risk
Like functionally always be purists and very very high performance like esports athletes who will just simply
Need a 90 90 ti titan or whatever the thing that I'm trying to ask isn't even necessarily for myself
Like is this gonna make a difference for me? Realistically? No, but like is is shroud gonna turn this on
is Probably insert other name. I don't know whatever but like
Yeah, so here here we go. Okay. I've got my yeah. I've got my stuff fixed
So with just a few clicks
asynchronous free projection demo takes 30 FPS
And makes it feel like 240 FPS and it's kind of hard to tell
um but
We have often done a pretty bad job
There we go. So this is what's happening. It's taking each one frame that you get and it is decoupling
Your inputs from those updates. No, I yeah, I get that
So in so at 30 FPS, it's um, what is that 33 milliseconds?
At 60 FPS that's 16 milliseconds. That is freaking not a lot of time
So if you're running the game at some like reasonable
refresh rate 16 or let's say you can get a hundred FPS. So now we're talking about more like like 10 milliseconds or whatever
um Would you rather have your inputs at a thousand hertz?
On a like a thousand hertz monitor Even knowing that, you know, the objects could be a hundred milliseconds out of date or whatever, but probably not
If you tried it Pretty much everyone we put in front of it was like holy crap. This is amazing. I would love this so much more
um Yeah, my problem my problem with the thing that I'm describing is you wouldn't really be able to tell super easily without like
Analyzing individual like in a first person shooter game or something where if you're fighting with like blades
And it's it's physics based or whatever you wouldn't be able to tell without analyzing
But there's already so much slop in any kind of multiplayer game because of network latency anyway
That I just it's tough to I just don't see this being the main issue for me. Does this really?
Yeah, it's probably fine. Whatever. I Didn't have a desktop for a long time. I have a desktop again
I was quickly reminded that I am now older and slower than I used to be
It is what it is Also rusty, but yeah, also the other thing. Yeah
And you know like I I do okay, but like it's not
I'm not I'm not a competitive gamer and I I have long accepted this and that's fine
me too Even more than him not that it's a competition, but I have
Hardcore accepted being non competitive more than he has. Yeah, I still try. Yeah
There's no point for me But um
Yeah, I I'm wondering about like the super optimized
Situation for someone who is genuinely in that level of competition trying to do that thing. Yeah is this viable
That's that's the part where I'm wondering. I don't know. I don't think we're gonna know until we actually get reflex too
Or three or five or who you know who knows right because clearly this was working well enough
That someone was able to put together a very compelling very exciting demo years ago
It's already working in vr games
and used very actively and NVIDIA it has been cooking on this for
Presumably this whole time
And they're not they don't think it's ready yet So yeah, yeah
It'll just you know, we'll have to we'll have to try it Because because my the reason for bringing this up is the whole lossless versus compressed audio thing. Yeah is like
Effectively universally used
In my opinion except for
I wonder what dms would say
I wonder if he Uses lossless or not. I'm actually not sure
Um, he does use losses. Okay. I'm not convinced that he actually thinks it matters though
I think it's one of those I can so
If your equipment's good enough you can hear it, but there's diminishing returns
Okay, can hear it compared to what though compared to like
You know not high quality. Yeah compared to streaming or like compared to a cd
Um, well cd is pretty much indistinguishable right redbrook's redbrook's pretty damn high. Well, so that's compared to an mp3
Sure, definitely. That's what i'm that's what i'm that's what i'm that's what i'm talking about here
It's like when we say can you hear the difference from lossless?
I think what luke was getting at lossless compared to
Any kind of lossy compression recently high quality and I I am
Personally not convinced and I don't want to put words in dms's mouth
But I've been pretty sure we've talked about it and high quality compressed audio is pretty darn good. Absolutely
He was talking about the oh Yeah
Does it make sense to mention video ideas that might be like pretty far out?
Yeah, yeah, all right. I won't cool
Sounds good, um, was there anything else in the NVIDIA ces keynote. I don't actually think we talked about it at all
Yeah, there's other stuff who cares. Okay, sounds good. Goodbye
This is cool prusa pro afs. It was actually the battle bots guys that
brought this to my attention it's
Like just ready to go print farm
that just automatically Oh loads and unloads your plates and just
Does print farm things cool, right? That's pretty sweet. Yeah
Wow, cool, right? I think they just announced this
That's it crazy neat, right? Yeah
Uh screwdriver video. What's this? Absolutely mad lads. I don't know
It says check out this cool LTT screwdriver video courtesy Jake, uh
Redditor Bradley Doyle modeled textured and animated our screwdrivers in blender to make this cool product video
Oh, I did see this. Yeah I have not seen this. It's pretty sweet
Oh, that's cool Whoa, it even like looks like it's made of zinc. Okay, that's pretty cool
Wow
Dude, I've seen this already and it's so cool. Good lord. It's so what you did all the different colors
Wow, what wow, okay
That's pretty cool Oh, hold on. I accidentally went away when it was still saying what Bradley does. Hold on. Hold on. There were two things 3d generalists and motion designer
Motion designer. Yeah So sick Bradley Doyle dot ca genuinely fantastic Canadian bro to you. Oh, yeah, you'll love to see it sick
He has five subscribers on youtube No, that will probably go up. Yeah change that
Uh, okay, what is that it for topics? Oh, okay. Hey
Bose has open sourced the sound touch API
After previously announcing the end of cloud support for sound touch
Bose is taking steps to ensure that their owners aren't left as a well
Our discussion question is do you think bose is getting it right? Should they be doing more?
Obviously in our perfect world when you sell something that has a function. It just has the function forever. This is
the acceptable Compromise that we have laid out. So it would be pretty hypocritical for us to
Um now say that bose needs to do more and do better
This is um, obviously not ideal, but it is better than nothing. So I'm going to take the small l
Yeah, I think without diving into this way too much This seems like to a tee what we've asked companies to do if they're going to shut something down
Which again ideally you don't shut it down but
We also are realists and recognize it's gonna happen that you can't just keep everything going forever
So I think that's really awesome
Makes me think more positively of bose mark straight up mark dick
tex 69 asks if we've talked about the clicks communicator
People in the community are hyped af
Um, no I
Uh Yeah, I could I could try it. I guess I mean I I I did recently
Try a phone with a with a keyboard again
And what I discovered is that wow, I um use a lot of special characters these days and that's
That's good. I like it auto complete is
Really good and screens are actually legitimately faster than I ever was with a full keyboard
Uh, I definitely have more to learn about this one. There's things about it that look
Better than previous keyboard phone modern attempts at uh bringing back the past
I heard I heard rumor that like, uh, one of the original blackberry designers is on the team. Okay. I don't know
Well, that worked out great for blackberry. Well, I did originally. Yeah, right. I don't know man. I um
I would love for this to be like the logitech gcloud
Where I go on wanshow and I go yeah, yeah, I don't know seems dumb
And then I use it and it totally changes my opinion. Sure
I'd love for that to happen Probably not but I bet I'd love for it to happen. It would be cool. That's gonna be my attitude
I would love for it. I would love I'd love for that to happen
More topics more but like I'm the kind of guy
Who wants like even more screen?
Not even less screen which might make that tough
I don't I think one of the reasons why I said I don't think it's gonna happen isn't because I'm like
Oh, the clicks is doomed or whatever. I think it's not for you. Yeah. I'm just not the guy. Yeah
Is should this be hosted by someone else?
Um, no, I think I can be fair to it. I don't think there's anyone here who would want to keyboard on the phone quite frankly
Like it seems like uh
Is there more going on
With what Like are they are they doing something more they said a phone for people who want to like
Do stuff not doom scroll and then their thing says tools for taking action not distraction or whatever
Are they doing more than just put keyboard on phone? I'm pretty sure it's just the keyboard. Hmm. Yeah
All right, I think it's time for after dark mr. Dan. Yeah
Hit me Sure thing. Yeah, we got a few here today. Oh, it comes out of the the things like a case
It can just be a normal phone I just watched a little mini video. Oh neat. There's just a usbc plug in the thing that gives you the keyboard
Oh, watch this replay
Oh, that's their cases though. Click. That's a different product. Oh
The clicks communicator is a phone
Clicks communicator in part. Okay, so I didn't click on that. I just scrolled down and then it's no longer that. All right
Sure That was a little bit confusing my bad. Cool. Good chat. Okay
Hello LTT Linus How is fft is Alice going? I
am on the second last fight and it's a giant load of bullshit and um
At this point, I would either have to
undo the last few also bullshit, but I made it through them fights and
grind a bunch of stuff and get some equipment that I need to bring with me specifically to make this fight winnable
Because I need to be able to absorb some stupid element. Otherwise. I will just
immediately be one hit every time any of them hit me
um, or grind a bunch of levels
Or I need to go back out of this dungeon
so undo those three fights and then admit defeat and go off of
tactician difficulty and go back to the standard difficulty in which case these last fights will just be a breeze because
I've been playing at tactician difficulty. So I'm I'd be like ludicrously overpowered to play against normal opponents
In which case I don't even really care about finishing it either of those two ways enough
So I'm on like the second last fight and I gave up But I beat the game already so I don't really care and I got almost to the end at tactician
and the only reason that I can't get through it is because I Like I got like two of my shields broken in the previous fight. So I like didn't bring enough
I think it's yeah ice shields I didn't bring enough ice shields with me and a couple of them got like broken by stupid knights
So I like don't have enough to keep my opponent to keep my team from getting just
sniped across the map by that bullshit guy in the second last fight that just has an ice gun that just
F***ing destroys you and then I didn't grind Uh break weapon on mustadio and just like cheese it like that. So it's just I don't know man
I don't know man. It's one of those things where I know that tactician is for experienced players of the game
But when the only way to beat a fight is to have like
Done a very specific build or like have a very specific item that you've got equipped
That's not super fun for me. I like being able to build a somewhat rounded party
And I'm I'm over it Got a question here from godi is wi-fi drunk
What happened to wi-fi 70? I mean wi-fi has been wi-fi has been drunk for a while. I mean remember 802.11 b
and then 802.11 We went all the way to g
and then 802.11
What was the next one was it ac was that the next one?
And then yes, and then we went to wi-fi
6 I think hold on did they drop the letters after ac?
Oh, yeah, and I forgot about and no no was n a x is when they were calling them like both g then n then ac then a x
Then we retconned all of that and called it all
wi-fi to wi-fi 5 and then came wi-fi 6 then 6 e and now 7
And then yeah magic Yeah, no you liked it
Yeah, there you go 11 11 b 11 a 11 g 11
n 11 a c 11 a x 11 b e 11 b n no one really used 802.11 though
And then a and b existed at like kind of the same. Yeah, there you go kind of the same time
a I think was 5 gigahertz rather than 2.4 if I recall correctly, but literally quite literally nothing consumer facing used it
um That was pretty cool
Am I remembering that correctly? Oh, yeah, there's a table right there to the right. Yeah. Yeah a was 5 gigahertz. Yeah. Yeah, there you go
cool good chat
Hi dld on your comment about hard drives
IBM is trying to strategically position tape
IBM diamond back for long-term storage due to data center boom. Do you think the bubble will pop on them?
I know tape's been around. I don't think tape is ever gonna die. Yeah, it's it's it has not
That's all going to tape. It has not left tape has been around
It hasn't been around at the consumer level really um
Although there's been a couple attempts it it's
Yeah, the problem is the drives are so freaking expensive
But if I remember correctly the tapes are pretty cheap, right? Yeah. Yeah the drives are just
Out of reach of consumers realistically. That's good timing
What you said the that they were out of reach of consumers
Yeah, but the but the tapes are fine and like genuinely a lot of big enterprises been using them for the whole time
They're very reliable. They're slow af
But for long-term archival storage until we get like dna storage or like storing data and
Crystals crystals or something. This is um, this is pretty awesome
Aren't some of the sizes that you can get like obscene like 512 terabytes and like they're massive like crazy
Yeah, it's it's honestly my favorite part about tape is like the robots
Like the tunnels and the tape grabbing robots and the it's just so neat
Oh, this was cool. Um, I dropped by for our systems. We didn't end up making a video
But their new cold plate looks amazing. I was kind of I was kind of skeptical because I was like, okay
I mean we've pretty much gotten to the point where Um, you you've made copper fins as small as they can get, you know, how much better does it get?
It turns out. Oh, this is not a great This is not a great shot
Oh, shut up. They don't have the they don't have the geometry on their site
Come on you guys Okay, well, whatever it turns out that if you use deposition manufacturing like they do with their air jets
um You can create shapes
Through very similar to how you would manufacture like like silicon like semiconductor products
You can deposit much more complex
Geometries that dramatically improve the heat exchange and you can do it really cheaply
Which is probably the coolest part about it. They weren't quoting pricing publicly
But someone slipped up and told me a number which I won't disclose because I said I wouldn't
But it seems like Basically, my next question was oh interesting. Can we have consumer ones?
And they were like we haven't considered that and I was like, okay
Can we have consumer ones? And then they didn't commit anything
So that was neat for our systems. There you go I'm going here for luke
Hey, lld question for luke. What's been your overall experience with ovh as a hosting platform? Hello from the ovh dc team
Which is why I wanted to make sure I read the whole thing I mean with with anyone that you will have had a
A you know business relationship for this long. There's been bumps, but I think it's been really good realistically
Like the the bumps that we've had They have cared about them and sought resolution fairly quickly and this includes when we've had account handlers that like
Did not know or care whatsoever about all of this
they're just their ovh people dealing with an ovh customer that has a problem and
They cared and dealt with it and like some people have pointed out certain things that are kind of a little bit bumpy
about the ovh experience and it's like yeah, they're also
Show me the price competitor bruh I'll show you the similar bumpy experience like it's fine, dude. I've been pretty happy with how things have generally gone
I don't have bad things to say. There's a reason why I've been working with ovh for
a very long time
And I know there was certain stuff that we like relied on very heavily in the early days
um Like the DDoS protection back in the day was like a pretty big deal and the ovh to ovh
Super high speed links that were like practically free if I recall correctly. Yeah pretty big deal. Yeah
Yeah, we've been we've been quite happy. I don't have bad things to say. I mean, okay
I could drum some stuff up, but like if I'm being realistic, I'm I'm I'm quite happy
um, and I'm sure that if If this question was asked in reverse, I'm sure there's things they could drum up as well because we uh, we definitely
Messaged them a lot about things
But yeah, they're cool come say hi in our french office. I have technically twice
Both times were great both times were not for for for full plane, which is the majority of the usage that we have of ovh
um Yeah, which was kind of funny because both times I went
I had to tell them like by the way we actually use your stuff and they were like, huh?
Which is like, yeah, okay Maybe we should uh work on informing them about that. I don't know. Maybe we shouldn't who knows
Hey Hey, LTT. I am doing a degree in special education and looking into working at a
non-profit for people with disabilities. I was wondering which teacher or professor inspires you
Hmm got a couple answers for this one My uh, my parents were my my mom and my stepdad were both teachers and my aunt on my
Biological father's side was also a teacher. So I had a lot of teachers in my life growing up. Um
And I always thought that it was a very honorable thing to do. I always thought it was really cool
Uh, I wanted to be a teacher until I couldn't get a degree. You need a degree to be a teacher at least here anyway
um But I'd say like the teachers that I had in school that were very inspiring. I mean madame bodasso
Made me care about french Al horn
outstanding english teacher who Made me able to write and do my job that I do today
um
Yeah, I have three primary ones mr. Trattle who's I know he's still in the in the school system
I think he's a A principal now, um
He showed me that like With effort you can accomplish a lot and he enabled me to push really hard
Like he noticed really early on That I was you know, I'd be done the class assignment
Four minutes or whatever and you're supposed to sit there for the class duration and he'd give me the next one
And then I'd finish a bunch of them in a day So he'd give me the next years and be like just sit in the corner and do all these by yourself basically
I'm not going to teach you how to do them. Here's the information. I have to teach the normal class
but you can just go and I did that and
Finished all of the grades of computers in like the first year or two that I was in high school
A lot of teachers wouldn't do that like that was
He's going above and beyond and he kept going above and beyond a bunch of times. I remember one year
He took this I probably told this on my show before but he took a summer class at bcit on 3d game programming
And then distilled it down and created a new course at our high school just called 3d game programming
Just for our year because our like a bunch of my friends and and our group of people in my grade
We're all really interested in this and I don't even think he kept it going
For future grades because none of the other kids had a lot of interest
But I think we had two terms of it or something I don't remember all the details, but like that was so unnecessary and so
Incredibly amazing and inspiring at the same time. I remember again a bunch of us had interest in hardware
So he did this whole thing I've definitely told him when show before where he got us a bunch of hardware that we could zombify together
Which was amazing. He was awesome Mr. Mr. Thompson
I Would get really bad grades in English every single year. Yeah, because I would just get torched for
You know issues and He put a cap on that and then tried to cultivate the like
You know, you seem to like care about stuff and have ideas and whatnot. So let's focus on that for now
Uh and and grow your writing and then out of his course. I went from like bottom of the barrel grades
To doing really well and getting into AP English 12 and then being fairly successful in AP English 12
Because it inspired me to try harder, which was great. And then mr. first
Again, just very inspiring about caring about things and pushing hard
Regardless and he was my physics teacher. It's great. Those three were like huge inspirations for me
I'm going to shout out mr. Russell too for teaching me that not all teachers are going to give a s*** about you
It wasn't that he didn't care. It was that he
projected How it's going to be Yeah, mr. First showed that like, you know, it it matters if things are like hard, but you still have to do them
That was like a very important Lesson from him of like here. Look, I'll help you but at the end of the day
Uh, you're going to be out there on your own and you're going to need to just be able to do it. So like
I let's figure this out together. I just found out that my AP English teacher
um Published between nine and six months ago a series of five talks at the merit bc library
um On the history of
life on earth What?
Um, and I pretty much guarantee you Even though this only has as few as one view per video
That it is going to be um very entertaining and
very educational That's awesome. So there you go. That's actually really cool
Hello Dot dll. I'm having all of my teeth
Including wisdom teeth removed on wednesday. Holy crap. Really? Is that a thing?
Sometimes all of my teeth Sometimes that can happen. Oh, wow. Okay. Linus when you had your wisdom teeth removed
How long did it take for you to not be in pain?
I think not in okay. Well, it depends for the top ones. It was pretty quick for the bottom ones
man, I don't remember I I I had those out like I don't seven eight years ago. Um
I remember it taking a while and it really depends. I mean it'd be better to talk to I imagine
Is it like a oral surgeon that would do it at that point if you're getting everything out?
I wonder what what I wonder, um
I mean, I don't want to ask personal questions. Yeah, but that that I mean sometimes you do it
For dental implants and stuff like that too. Oh, okay. It's very big in the hollywood
Community. Oh crystal. Oh, we get new uh, what?
Huh. Hmm. Oh might be. Oh, it is. Yeah. Yeah. Why?
Uh Or don't tell us we don't yeah, no, no, no, no, no
You don't have to tell us why but um, yeah, it goes. All right. Yeah, I hope I hope that goes. All right. Yeah, okay next
Uh DLL should games cater to whales or masses?
For example here ea fc 2026
Wow Are you gonna let them finish or nope? Yeah, sorry go for it
They've been altering between reducing the meta based on feedback
Annoying the pros and increasing it annoying the casuals can following feedback be bad
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's well luke was way ahead of you
I think that for a game like
I think for a company like ea with a mass market product like a soccer game
um Yes, yes, yes, yes, luke
Yes, yes, yes, yes um
Yeah, it's it's tough because you are you're trying to appeal to everyone all at once and that's
That's tough and if you don't you know, if your game doesn't do 100 million 200 million a billion dollars in sales or whatever then
For for some reason, even though you were profitable your entire team might get laid off. Um
You kind of you have to take feedback, but then you also have to
At some point grow a spine and make a game that has some kind of artistic intent to it
um or not And just deal with that
There's always going to be someone who's mad at you because just like running a youtube channel that
Is watched by millions of people if even 1 of people don't like the direction that you're taking it
That's going to be like from a million, right? That's 10 000 people that are going to be mad about whatever it is that you did and when you upload every day
Or when you publish a patch every week or whatever it is
That that part of that audience or that player base that that is mad is going to is going to shift around and you're just going to
Feel like well, i'm listening to you guys and now you're telling me I didn't do the right thing and it's just uh
It's it's a lose lose. It's a lose lose place to be
Yeah, when I first heard the question it was like, do you think it's better for
Slop to be generated in flavor a or flavor b
That's that's basically just how I interpreted that I think sometimes when you receive feedback
You got to analyze what the like root of that feedback is and sometimes with
Linus's example when you have this like public thing that lots of people interact with
Some of the feedback that you're going to receive when super negative
You might read it and just be like, yeah, okay working as intended
To be completely honest Maybe the thing that you made just wasn't for that person
And if they're like, I hate that it does this and you're like, well it doing that is the point
Then that's okay That's all right
If you make a horror game and somebody's like, I hate this game zero out of 10. It was scary
it's like
Cool nice Maybe that person will ask for a refund and they'll get it and that's all right
But that was also sort of the point so
No problem
Up next Hello LLD usb cable testers range from $15 to over 100 to over 10,000, but yes carry on. Yeah, I mean accurate
Um, and I have no idea if any of them are any good any advice treedix versus caber q u
Possible video topic after your new usb cables launch
I don't know that we would get into that to be honest with you. Um for the like
12 people that it would affect I looked very briefly at treedix and it seems like it's sort of
fairly basic
And or kind of very diy like in terms of the information that they're providing like they're not looking at
The shape of the eye, you know, they're just kind of like yes. No. No. Yes. No. Yes. No
What I suspect is that for very basic testing does this cable work
It might tell you it would it would almost certainly be able to tell you no it's broken
But I don't know that it's yes would be particularly meaningful to me
It might be amazing, but I I have no experience with it and I don't know that I have the
interest in going to a level of
depth um, that would be required to find out if it's any good when we'd rather just use
professional level tools and
And make sure that our cables are good with those and focus on that for now
Speaking of cables, by the way, now is a great time. Thanks, no key to head over to lttstore.com and sign up for a notification
For when our true spec cables are going to be launched
Purpose built lengths. So we want you to get the right length cable for you
So we'll have more than just the sort of main sizes
clearly labeled speeds and feeds just like that
And they won't come off because they are embossed
And UV resistant silicone style cables, which are nice and flexible and uh feel just not style, right? It's just satisfying. Yes. Yeah, they are
Hit me Dan
Uh, last one I've got for you. Hey LLD had the two packages swapped
And it did not appear like an innocent mistake for both
Got any fun stories about stolen or swapped packages at LMG or stories about suffering from retail fraud at ncix
Man, I don't uh, I wasn't really involved in that department
Like I'm sure if I could get in touch with like ruji or something
He would be able to tell me all kinds of fun stories
But uh, what I will say is that core sharers side of the story on some of the
Stuff that's been going on returns or whatever. Yeah is a little more nuanced than some of the public
Uh discourse about it I know, right? Uh, we're still waiting to get a little bit more information and whether or not the people there can even really talk to us
But um, you know
Hint spoiler um
Apparently in some of these cases Like it's pretty obvious based on the volume of orders that one individual is trying to place for
Items that have price errors that you know, they're not acting in good faith. They're just trying to
Um get a lot of stuff so that they can flip it for profit which
Uh You know, you're not really the victim anymore at that point. It's certainly not black and white
Uh, I don't really have I I've actually had really good luck in terms of my packages generally arriving when I order them
I've had I mean, I've had delays and stuff, but I've I don't think uh, there's only one time
I had a major issue with the package and I had to drive to like the shipping depot and get it from them at the depot
And it was because of some there was like a bunch of issues with the package and they wanted it to be like
Much more officially handed off to the point where I went to the depot for it and they like gave me a shipping refund
Or something. I don't remember what happened, but it was like very strange. I've definitely had some weird stuff
Like that that scorpion chair. They just like dropped it off. Oh, dude. Okay. Yeah, I've had one problem
I had a chair just left in the freaking lawn
It's stupid All right
Nice, Dan Please tell me you had your mic on no, but he said lawn chair. That's funny. You have to ding yourself
I won't tell the show until you do it yourself. Nice. And we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel
Bye
All right
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