WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.600 What's up, y'all? Happy lime day. 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:13.800 Hi. 00:00:16.520 --> 00:00:19.160 I'm feeling great. Thanks for asking. 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:26.920 How's it, how's it been shooting all week? Has it been frustrating? 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:29.800 Oh, the week's been great. Oh, when did that happen? 00:00:30.240 --> 00:00:31.080 Yesterday morning. 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:39.960 How was filming the thing? Not great. 00:00:42.360 --> 00:00:46.040 Which one? That's the answer regardless, but which one? 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:48.680 It was at your place. I don't know what you're talking about. 00:00:49.360 --> 00:00:51.960 Was there more than one at your place? Yeah. Oh. 00:00:52.440 --> 00:00:54.000 Oh, you mean the turret? Yeah. 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:56.200 Challenging. 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:04.200 I also had to do. Did you see what I mean now? 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:06.760 But I don't know if it's going to be good, but I think it'll be a good video. 00:01:08.080 --> 00:01:11.560 No. You don't think it's going to be a good video? I don't know, man. 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:17.400 It's a. So I think there's four videos that it's going to be in. 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:19.520 Oh, the turret. 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:25.200 Oh, you mean the yeah, there's a, well, no, not that. 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:28.240 I mean, the bite blocks. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:36.200 The turret, a short, a sponsor short for Sammy for like this portable monitor thing. 00:01:37.520 --> 00:01:38.200 This one's really. 00:01:57.440 --> 00:02:12.080 That there we go back and the worst of all, I just did a video on lossless scaling. 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:14.960 So that was hard to say. 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.320 Subscribe. Subscribe. 00:02:27.880 --> 00:02:28.280 Yeah. 00:02:33.600 --> 00:02:35.360 Suspicious. No. 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:47.080 Oh, man. 00:02:51.160 --> 00:02:57.760 Yeah. So good luck, everybody on the WAN Show. 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:06.680 It'll be fine. Should we acknowledge it at all? 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:13.800 Or should we just let it be a secret for the pre-stream? 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:17.400 I mean, it's not exactly a secret. 00:03:18.640 --> 00:03:22.320 It's hard to tell, though, on camera. Yeah, they, they fail. 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:27.360 They're not super obvious. Yeah. The bite blocks are, once you show them. 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:35.560 Okay. Yeah, there they are. Yeah, they can see it now. So I can't, I can't close my mouth all the way because they put these lockers so 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.520 that I don't accidentally bite off my bottom brackets. 00:03:40.160 --> 00:03:43.600 Having had braces for an extensive period of time myself, that's definitely where 00:03:43.600 --> 00:03:48.520 most of the problems are coming from. Yeah, but I basically was like, I called them today. 00:03:48.720 --> 00:03:52.120 I was like, yo, they can't, that, that can't stay in. I can't. 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.560 So what, because you're talking about how they would shear the bottom ones off. 00:03:55.600 --> 00:03:59.400 Yeah. So you just have to get them reapplied like a bunch of times? 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:02.440 Yeah, I told them, just like, look, I'll pay to have them put back on. 00:04:02.440 --> 00:04:04.600 Like I don't care, but I can't have these in. I can't talk. 00:04:05.880 --> 00:04:09.280 One warning is the, the shearing off. 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.520 I know. I've had braces. Oh, I have sheared off bottom brackets before I know. 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:16.600 Okay. All right. Yep. No, it's just going to be one of these. 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:19.960 Yeah, I hear you. I can't. I just wanted to give you the warning. That's all. 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:24.360 This is not compatible, compatible with me doing my job right now. 00:04:24.440 --> 00:04:27.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not good. It's, it's not good melons. 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:45.040 What's the warning? If you, they're tight metal in a soft, fleshy environment. 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:49.240 If you break it off, it could brain and not be good. 00:04:51.080 --> 00:04:54.520 Did I say tight metal? It's not that bad. No, that was never a problem. 00:04:54.520 --> 00:04:56.280 Weird way of describing that. Yeah, it is. 00:04:57.520 --> 00:05:00.120 You can actually break one of the lines that it can poke through your skin. 00:05:00.840 --> 00:05:04.520 That'd be pretty hard to do. How'd you manage to do that? 00:05:05.440 --> 00:05:11.280 Like I've knocked brackets off, but then they just sit there. They just like are loose on the wire. 00:05:11.280 --> 00:05:14.160 How's that? Like they weren't using the right wire, brother. 00:05:14.280 --> 00:05:20.520 Yeah, maybe not. I don't know. Like no, honestly, though, I still have a bar behind my lower teeth. 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:23.960 Yeah, that's fine. That one has never had a problem. 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:27.680 Yeah. No, no, no, it's been there for, if you, if they, dude, those wires are crazy. 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:32.680 They're like magic. Like they like, they like heat, they like bend them and then they can like heat 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:35.320 them up and then they like lock there. Like it's like magic metal. 00:05:35.880 --> 00:05:39.120 If dude, if you managed to break that, they did something wrong. Oh yeah. 00:05:39.200 --> 00:05:51.360 I don't know. Maybe. Um, Linus doesn't read the merge messages. 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.000 So every word starting with S would be Dan reading it. 00:05:54.560 --> 00:06:02.800 So it doesn't actually, um, caught him, but you should send lots of 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:12.520 merge messages anyway, just so I'll feel better. So you can afford to get them put back on again, like every week. 00:06:13.280 --> 00:06:14.960 Yeah, I don't think. 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:20.800 Confirm, do you, do you clench your teeth at night? 00:06:22.080 --> 00:06:25.160 I don't think so. I guess we'll find out soon enough. Yeah. 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:29.680 Cause I don't think they're necessarily just going to like pop off. No, no, no, it's from when you're like eating. 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:34.040 Yeah. When you like bite down on something and you can knock off the front ones. 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:39.480 Oh, okay, let's do this thing. 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:43.840 I want to play tape to tape after. Did you see the windsurf news? 00:06:43.880 --> 00:06:47.280 What windsurf? What's that? I don't, I don't know. 00:06:47.400 --> 00:06:55.320 I know surf shark. I know wind waker windsurf CEO goes to Google. 00:06:55.320 --> 00:06:56.280 What is windsurf? 00:06:59.400 --> 00:07:02.680 Is this AI company number 482? 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.640 Oh yeah, I don't know who cares. Cool. 00:07:06.640 --> 00:07:09.560 Three billion dollar deal. Okay. 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:11.760 Yeah, of course. Sounds good. 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:18.120 However, people want to shove the money around. Have fun, everybody. 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:34.120 It's such a wacko world, man. We're like making valuable things for people is like far from the best way to. 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.080 Make money like what are we doing? 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:44.920 I think the best way to make money would be for me to license my Facebook marketplace feed to other people for their entertainment. 00:07:44.960 --> 00:07:48.240 I think I would subscribe to an $800 self-serve ice cream machine. 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:52.440 How about this $500 rock? 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:57.080 One of a kind of rock, great conversation piece. 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:04.040 They actually put that. Wow, they actually put that realistic animatronic dinosaur. 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:10.920 How could you not buy it? 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:15.240 Oh my goodness. 00:08:18.880 --> 00:08:22.960 How about a third of a third of a car? 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:24.480 Car timeshare. 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:33.160 Oh man. What makes it a man cave pan? 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:36.680 Man pan? 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:43.720 What? It's it's cut in half. I don't know what it's for. 00:08:45.880 --> 00:08:50.320 He will laugh when he thinks about the frying pan he hated and we'll be glad to 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:54.280 see someone find a use for them. What are you talking about? 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:57.640 They're cut off. 00:09:01.880 --> 00:09:07.200 Oh, they're dust pants. They're dust pants. Oh, I read it at the very end. 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:12.840 That's pretty cute. That's pretty cute. I have to click on this one just so that it knows to send me more crap like this. 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:15.040 I'm training it. 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:23.360 I'm training a good AI. I'm more interested in this Jurassic Park Raptor for your wall. 00:09:24.560 --> 00:09:27.520 It's so big. It's so big. 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.920 I'm more interested in Linus's Facebook algorithm than I am starting the show. 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:36.240 Sorry, Dan. Wait, McDonald's. 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:39.400 Oh, no way. People are still selling Szechuan sauce. 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:44.360 Isn't that like totally expired by now? I mean, yeah, I'd hope so. 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.280 I don't technically know, but I really hope so. See three POD. 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:55.800 No, that's too mainstream for me. You don't know how to train a Facebook algorithm. 00:09:57.280 --> 00:10:00.720 No, I don't. You got to click the right things. 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:04.520 Crotch rocket lawnmower. I think I'm thinking about, no, this is more like it. 00:10:04.520 --> 00:10:07.640 This is what I got to click custom built rail cart. 00:10:07.880 --> 00:10:14.360 Yeah, buddy. Oh my goodness. Can you imagine why are there like can you be a level seat belts? 00:10:14.400 --> 00:10:21.000 Can you imagine smoking enough of the reefer to think that this is worth $5,000? 00:10:23.640 --> 00:10:29.360 I mean, it might be a lot of custom fabrication. Hey, can I have some of what you're on? 00:10:29.520 --> 00:10:32.280 Oh, don't send me. I'm not going to send that. Just relax. 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:38.160 Vintage board game class struggle. Rare. 00:10:39.400 --> 00:10:41.680 Wow. I wonder who wins. 00:10:42.560 --> 00:10:43.120 Yeah. 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:51.520 What is that? We usually don't click on it. What is that? Retail store light box sign. 00:10:51.640 --> 00:10:54.680 Yeah, it's boring. You know you want it. Nope. He wants it. 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.400 Nope. He wants it. I don't want anything. I'll buy none of this. 00:10:58.400 --> 00:11:01.520 You have to buy it. It's not about buying it. It's about looking at it. 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:02.240 Hillary. 00:11:05.520 --> 00:11:08.720 Rare, Hillary Clinton latex. Oh, Lordy. 00:11:08.760 --> 00:11:12.320 It looks like a mask people would wear in like a bank job. 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:13.280 Yeah. Yeah. 00:11:17.400 --> 00:11:21.080 Oh, man. Okay. Now I got to know what this is. 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.040 I got to know what this is. What is this? What is this? 00:11:24.560 --> 00:11:28.080 This is a picture. This is a $6,000 picture. 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.760 It's so expensive. Acrylic on board. 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:33.680 Is this is this a painting? 00:11:35.400 --> 00:11:37.640 It doesn't really look like a painting. Maybe it's a painting. 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.080 That's crazy. That's crazy. 00:11:44.680 --> 00:11:47.840 I love it. Okay. All right. I'm done. I'm done. I'm almost done. 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:51.960 I'll be done soon. I've always wanted to try this. 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:56.720 Oh, really? I've done soapbox service. That's pretty cool. Is it fun? It looks fun. 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:58.880 It's all right. Oh, okay. Well, 00:12:01.920 --> 00:12:04.600 not so sad. It's looking dog. Well, I mean, I haven't. 00:12:05.160 --> 00:12:08.560 Why is this dog so sad? Is it his gaming PC you're selling? Maybe it is. 00:12:09.040 --> 00:12:12.320 Look how sad he is. He's so sad. It's like, no, please. 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.560 Please don't give me my gaming PC. I'll do my homework. 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.120 Okay. You like this one. You love this. You want this in your old PC? 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.000 Yeah. See, I told you I'd find something you like. I'm still not going to buy it though. 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.600 Well, no, because you expect me to buy all of your shit for you. Yep. 00:12:31.040 --> 00:12:35.760 Kids today, man. No way. Don't scalp the screwdriver. 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:39.040 Oh, oh, gross, rude. 00:12:39.680 --> 00:12:43.160 Let's shame them. We're going to shame them. Who are you? 00:12:43.160 --> 00:12:46.840 It's going to show their actual name, which I don't want too 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.280 late now. I mean, it's Facebook. It's not like it's private. 00:12:50.400 --> 00:12:54.960 Brand new, Boston, great condition. This is the sought after Noctua colorway. 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:59.640 I'll give you, I'll let you in on a little secret. If it was so sought after, it wouldn't have been a mystery 00:12:59.640 --> 00:13:04.920 screwdriver. Oh, a lot of people sought after it, but not as many as we thought. 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.960 Right. That is how that goes. Yeah. 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.560 I mean, you can never get it exactly right. 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:14.280 You know, you want this, you want it? 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:20.600 No, you want it? No, you'd wear it. Did we, though? You wouldn't wear it. 00:13:21.040 --> 00:13:24.680 You'd wear it. Is this, is it a sticker? No, it's a shirt. 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:30.720 I don't like huge logo on front shirts. I prefer shirts like this one from LTT Store. 00:13:31.040 --> 00:13:34.920 Jesus, where the small logo is on the front and the large one 00:13:34.920 --> 00:13:38.720 is on the back. Significantly better. 00:13:38.760 --> 00:13:41.840 Technically, I don't know if that's the front. Oh, it is the front. Okay, fine. All right. 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:46.080 I'll allow it. I'll allow it. Large logo front sucks. 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:49.520 I was going to look something up. What was it going to look at? Oh, yeah. 00:13:51.560 --> 00:13:52.200 What are you looking at? 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.480 Now on the back. All the back. 00:14:00.880 --> 00:14:07.640 I went to go try to see if the Noctua colorway was on the store and I saw our Nido screwdriver landing page. 00:14:07.680 --> 00:14:14.640 Oh, yeah. And I was wanted to check if it doesn't kind of looks bigger 00:14:14.640 --> 00:14:15.360 than the other one. 00:14:19.160 --> 00:14:22.120 Yeah. Yeah. 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:25.960 Is that what you're going to say? No. Oh, okay. What were you going to say? 00:14:26.520 --> 00:14:27.200 Um, 00:14:31.040 --> 00:14:34.480 never actually tried this. Oh, we need to call Trump phone support. Oh, no, they're probably closed already. 00:14:35.520 --> 00:14:38.560 Dang it. We keep not starting it early enough. Try it now. 00:14:38.680 --> 00:14:41.480 If it works, just start the show on the phone. 00:14:42.160 --> 00:14:43.800 I mean, it would be kind of sick. 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:53.080 You throwing down a beat, man. 00:14:55.720 --> 00:15:00.640 No worries. I'm just wondering. Yeah, I'm trying to get the trying to get the show started. 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:07.040 Uh, no, I was answering merch messages and I just do that 00:15:07.040 --> 00:15:10.720 subconsciously sometimes. So do I. I was not complaining. 00:15:12.680 --> 00:15:17.360 Didn't even realize often either. Do I same with leg shaking? 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:22.840 I'll get people like that. I'm going to stop like I didn't even I don't even know I was 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:23.800 doing in the first place. 00:15:28.040 --> 00:15:31.840 Let's chat tomorrow, I guess. 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:38.240 Okay, you good, bro? Yeah, I am. 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.840 Um, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 00:15:41.640 --> 00:15:44.440 Well, oh, what? What am I supposed to see? 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.040 That's fine. That email is just going to get spammed even more. It's okay. 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:51.440 It already happens. We'll think they're so clever. 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:57.040 Okay. Um, what? 00:15:57.040 --> 00:15:59.040 Just hold on a second. Okay. 00:16:00.040 --> 00:16:03.040 What? Just hold on a few more seconds. 00:16:03.040 --> 00:16:05.040 Have you seen this, right? 00:16:07.040 --> 00:16:10.040 No, that's cool. You haven't seen this? No. 00:16:10.040 --> 00:16:13.040 And then you click the orange thing and it like expands. That's super cool. 00:16:13.040 --> 00:16:16.040 And then you go back and you click this thing. I like. 00:16:16.040 --> 00:16:19.040 And then that expands. Wait, why aren't we showing them? 00:16:19.040 --> 00:16:22.040 And there's all the different versions. Yeah. Why aren't we showing them? 00:16:22.040 --> 00:16:27.040 We're not showing them because this didn't originally get approved to like actually be done because this was 00:16:27.040 --> 00:16:33.040 just a tech demo. We were trying to, we were trying to do science on how 00:16:33.040 --> 00:16:37.040 it, cause this is three, three DJS. So this is something we didn't have experience with. 00:16:37.040 --> 00:16:40.040 So we're trying to figure out if we could use it in different ways. 00:16:40.040 --> 00:16:45.040 So we wanted an experiment and the experiment was decided, Hey, we'll make it a practical, practical experiment and 00:16:45.040 --> 00:16:50.040 actually do it with, um, an actual screwdriver. 00:16:51.040 --> 00:16:57.040 Why don't we show the people? Well, I don't know. It's, uh, it's very tech demo-y right now. 00:16:58.040 --> 00:16:59.040 Just make it full screen. 00:17:07.040 --> 00:17:10.040 Go away. You're welcome. I can do that. 00:17:10.040 --> 00:17:14.040 That's a tech tip. I wonder if there's any, I think there's nothing else. 00:17:14.040 --> 00:17:17.040 You just got tech tipped. Give me one second. 00:17:22.040 --> 00:17:29.040 Um, what was this? 00:17:35.040 --> 00:17:39.040 Okay. 00:17:40.040 --> 00:17:43.040 Okay. Okay. Okay. 00:17:43.040 --> 00:17:52.640 I'll do that later. Okay. Okay, okay, let's do it that later. Okay, should we do this thing? 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:05.160 Yeah, I'm sick you know you want it you want this so bad 00:18:07.280 --> 00:18:12.360 Well, do you want me to show this on the show? Oh Han Solo table that's sick 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:15.400 I actually kind of tasteful 00:18:17.800 --> 00:18:25.360 That's actually dope I built this one-of-a-kind Star Wars Han Solo coffee table. It's on sale just in time for Christmas 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:35.480 How long has that been up for I mean a minute I guess it doesn't say usually it says hey, yeah, that's weird 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:42.320 Yeah Highly rated though highly rated on Facebook market, but it actually looks really well died by with confidence 00:18:43.320 --> 00:18:48.920 That's not an endorsement. Yeah. I'm just I'm just me man. I'm just me man 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:51.920 What about a sound cannon? 00:18:55.400 --> 00:19:00.680 So one-of-a-kind opportunity my goodness acoustic wave cannon 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:06.400 The heck I can also buy black PVC from Home Depot 00:19:12.280 --> 00:19:16.360 Okay, okay, so we start the show. Do you want me to show this on the show or in the pre-show? 00:19:16.800 --> 00:19:21.880 Yeah, I saw it on the show Okay, this is cut baby. It's it's old to be clear 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:26.840 Yeah, but I haven't seen it. I Swear you've seen it 00:19:27.120 --> 00:19:31.720 Ever Cuz I thought you were the one that said no to continue in the project. No 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:37.960 You're drunk. This is very possible. You're like actually drunk because I I 00:19:38.520 --> 00:19:42.960 Repitched it recently and they're like, yeah, why didn't we do this in the past? And I was like, I don't know 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:46.800 I don't remember someone said no, but I don't remember who said no wasn't me. Okay 00:19:47.040 --> 00:20:06.920 No, that is not my fault at all at all. I just want to say very clearly there was a scheduled meeting 00:20:08.040 --> 00:20:14.480 When something changed I said hey that scheduled meeting might go away and you're like what no and then within like two months 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:18.000 It was gone. I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about. Yes, you do 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:23.000 I'm gonna resume the selected now. You're a liar. The selected is resumed 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:26.400 My goodness 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:46.640 Oh 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:56.160 What is up everybody and welcome to the wind so we're gonna have a great show lined up for you guys this week 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:04.680 We will be talking about Google's AI overview apparently selling people products that in many cases are garbage and in some cases 00:21:05.080 --> 00:21:07.440 don't even exist which is 00:21:08.080 --> 00:21:13.840 Pretty awkward if I do say so myself in other awkward AI news. Are you depressed? 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:16.880 Just use AI so you can feel better 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:26.400 Are you are you kidding me right now? What else we got going on this week thieves are giving themselves refunds using POS terminals 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:33.720 That's very cool. Also some of you asked and some of us answered the Labs did a thing 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:38.160 there was a reddit article about if displaying 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:47.680 seconds in your system tray uses battery or not and And we checked it out. It's not fully conclusive because we didn't we haven't battery testing is weird. We'll talk about it later 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:50.960 Okay 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:06.080 Your interest you're so good at it you say it there 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:08.240 Oh 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:16.640 Brought you today by hreps Vessie and 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:22.960 Squarespace and of course our wrap partner is deep end our chair partner is secret lab and our 00:22:23.600 --> 00:22:29.040 Laptop partner is del. Why do I bother? What's the what's the oh google? 00:22:29.360 --> 00:22:37.120 Don't we go through this let's jump right into our headline topic google's AI overviews are selling you at garbage 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:41.040 I mean we all knew that AI kind of sucked right? 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.080 Did you want me to do this? I got this. Okay. I got this. All right. I can't resist 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:53.360 House fresh who we've actually talked about like four or five times on wandshow now. Yeah, they're awesome 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:57.040 They're an air purifier review site that um, you know 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.800 I never thought I'd care this much about an air purifier review site 00:23:00.800 --> 00:23:06.960 But they do a great job and they are fighting the good fight in the war against crappy AI 00:23:07.120 --> 00:23:12.000 And they published an in-depth report exposing how google's AI overviews pushed misleading 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:14.480 overly salesy product info 00:23:16.320 --> 00:23:19.360 Do you have something to say no, I just sorry I need to drink of water 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:25.440 I uh, I just started to You know, I just I just I just yeah, I'm good in their testing 00:23:25.520 --> 00:23:34.000 They showed that AI overviews often rely on manufacturer pr product listings and sponsored reviews 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:40.240 They omit major criticisms and will even hallucinate fake pros and cons 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:44.640 They've even recommended products that simply don't exist 00:23:44.800 --> 00:23:54.800 Independent websites including ones that google itself has promoted have seen massive traffic drop-offs to nearly 80% in some cases 00:23:55.520 --> 00:24:00.080 Meanwhile, AI's reddit traffic or meanwhile reddits traffic from google surged 00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:04.800 990 percent between 2023 and 2025 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.440 Here are some AI overviews 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.360 Are you okay? I'm good. I'm sorry about that 00:24:14.320 --> 00:24:17.440 Here are some AI overview examples from the article 00:24:20.560 --> 00:24:26.880 I'm just very into this When asked about an infamously poorly reviewed air purifier 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.880 Google's AI overview had a super salesy take on it 00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:40.400 The molecule air mini plus is generally considered a worthwhile purchase for its unique technology and effectiveness in removing pollutants 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.200 It's particularly appealing 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:49.680 For those concerned What 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:55.760 Oh, sorry inside joke inside joke for those concerned about viruses bacteria 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:01.920 And other small particles that HEPA filters might miss according to fathercraft.com 00:25:02.560 --> 00:25:07.280 While some reviewers find it expensive others find the benefits like peace of mind 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.880 And its ability to destroy pollutants outweigh the cost 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:18.960 The air mini offers the same filtering power as the air mini plus but without the particle filter auto protect mode and vertical sensor 00:25:19.280 --> 00:25:23.520 mm-hmm And home kit integration says fathercraft.com 00:25:24.800 --> 00:25:32.880 but It's not incapable of listing cons such as when specifically asked for a good reason not to buy the air purifier 00:25:33.280 --> 00:25:39.520 So in this case it said a major drawback is its limited ability to remove particulate matter from the air 00:25:40.320 --> 00:25:47.280 I mean that seems like a major consideration when you're buying an air purifier does it not the entire point of the entire product 00:25:47.760 --> 00:25:51.280 Despite its marketing it has received criticism for its poor performance 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.600 With some tests showing it to be the worst purifier we've ever tested 00:25:58.320 --> 00:26:04.240 Okay, and even if that's not a solution it often hallucinates cons 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:10.880 It's reliance on UV light for Disinfection which is ineffective and potentially harmful 00:26:11.520 --> 00:26:15.360 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:24.800 This is this is wild man Housepress provides many examples in their full article which you can find on their site which is titled 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:33.040 Beware of the google ai salesman and its cronies and we have given you guys only a small surface sampling 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:38.880 A taste you might say of everything that they've delved into in their topic. So you should definitely 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.320 Dan do you want to go ahead and drop the link to the house fresh article sure into all the various chats? 00:26:44.560 --> 00:26:50.400 You should definitely go check it out and give it a good read our discussion question on this one is 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:56.400 is this the lowest point In internet history for trying to research and purchase products 00:27:06.320 --> 00:27:11.440 No But I think the reason why it's a no is really annoying 00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:20.880 Uh, because at one time you basically couldn't But I mean like during the internet era modern history 00:27:21.280 --> 00:27:27.600 Then I think absolutely yes Um, but like at a certain point in time there basically was no product info on on the internet 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:35.680 I mean one was very very little When I first started using the internet there was very little product info online. You couldn't actually buy things online 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.760 Okay, all right. This is what I'm saying. It's it's it's kind of a lame answer 00:27:39.760 --> 00:27:46.000 So the realistic answer if we look at modern internet is that yes, this is in my opinion the worst time and in my opinion 00:27:46.800 --> 00:27:54.240 Again to keep pumping these guys if you want to be like, you know properly armed and informed about what's happening with the 00:27:55.120 --> 00:27:59.520 Trillions of dollars behind the things hitting your eyeballs these days. You it's it's a good read 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:05.840 You should like legitimately go check it out. Um, it makes you a more educated consumer. Yes, which is like 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:12.880 All we can really hope for at this point Yeah, so check it out share it to your friends do stuff like that. It's um 00:28:13.520 --> 00:28:17.600 And I got a very good. It's well written well researched even with how much I know 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.080 I still find myself scrolling through the ai overview and like 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:29.600 If I don't stop and think wait, this is this is horse s***, right? If I don't stop and think about it 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.560 I'm like, oh, I mean it sounds plausible enough 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.320 That's the thing. That's the biggest problem 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:40.960 I 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.080 Think we might as well just take a short break and acknowledge the elephant in my mouth 00:28:59.360 --> 00:29:07.840 I got braces Yeah, but that's not actually why that's not the real problem. I was I was planning to not have to say that much today 00:29:08.800 --> 00:29:13.680 But I think there's just kind of no way that we can get around this. I mean I can do the topics. I got this 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.520 This show is so normal. Can they see it? Yeah, they can definitely see it. Okay. Yeah 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.240 so I had a few different options. There was traditional braces 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:35.840 Invisalign and then they had these like 3d printed braces and I was like 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:43.600 I don't know like 3d printed braces. That sounds kind of cool. Sounds cool. They are a little more expensive than visalign actually 00:29:43.600 --> 00:29:53.360 So I didn't like save money But they're apparently faster and after the initial time putting them on there's apparently just like less f***ing around with like 00:29:54.080 --> 00:30:01.040 Taking off and remounting brackets and like getting adjustments from week to week theoretically from my understanding my very basic understanding 00:30:01.360 --> 00:30:05.520 They have these templates that they put on so that they get the bracket in exactly the right spot 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:13.520 So that you just Hook up all the wires and then over time they put stronger and stronger wires obviously just like you would with normal train tracks 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:17.200 um and it just 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.200 Rips everything around to where it's supposed to be just 00:30:20.320 --> 00:30:26.480 You know, whatever I'm gonna need a little bit of disking because I have some crowding in my bottom teeth. That's pretty pretty rancid 00:30:27.040 --> 00:30:30.160 um and I was just like 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.320 You know, I don't know 3d printing is cool. Yeah, I'm gonna do that one. Yeah. Yeah 00:30:35.600 --> 00:30:39.600 So what my orso didn't tell me is that um 00:30:39.600 --> 00:30:43.520 Because my my bottom teeth are so misaligned 00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.840 It's hard to kind of see that Basically, it's like 00:30:47.840 --> 00:30:54.960 The braces being on there now makes it actually harder. Yeah, so some of the brackets on the bottom are up so high that my top teeth 00:30:55.520 --> 00:30:59.520 Could slice them off If I bit down too hard 00:30:59.520 --> 00:31:03.120 So they didn't tell me that that was going to be part of this 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.520 System and if they had I probably would have gone with something else 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:12.080 Because as you guys may or may not have noticed I cannot make s sounds 00:31:12.800 --> 00:31:18.080 and the reason for it is these These bite blocks behind my two front teeth on the top 00:31:19.120 --> 00:31:23.360 That prevent me from biting down so far that it slices off the bottom brackets 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:27.520 There's a gap between them so that I can floss between the teeth 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:31.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I can't feel 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.960 Yeah, I was thinking I was like, I think I can make an s sound without closing my mouth, but I understand now 00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:42.960 Yeah, well, it's my tongue I can't 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.240 I can't feel Do you want some uh tissue paper? We could jam in there 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:53.840 I want nothing of your help you mocked me once never mock me again or whatever the princess bride quote is 00:31:53.840 --> 00:31:57.040 I don't I'm okay. I'm fine 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:02.160 I'm in I'm in I'm in some pain 00:32:02.320 --> 00:32:08.080 I just got them on yesterday morning um So there's like the the torque and I've still had to work 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:14.000 So honestly, the teeth aching has never bothered me that much like I've had orthodontic work done before it's it's not 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:19.760 That's not the the worst part right now I didn't actually mind my braces that much when I had them the worst part for me has been that I've had to 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:28.080 Work the last couple of days and I literally talked for a living Yeah, and it's taking extra effort to try to enunciate in a way that anyone can actually understand 00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:34.800 What the bloody hell it is that I'm saying it really doesn't help that the video I hosted today right before wanshow was on lossless scaling 00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:47.600 Someone's god hates me. That's yeah, that's all time rough. I think um 00:32:48.080 --> 00:32:55.120 So it's taken extra effort to enunciate and with the the brand new 00:32:55.840 --> 00:33:02.720 braces on my teeth They're ripping up my gums like like more er when I have to try harder to do things 00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:06.160 And I don't know what it is, but I think these might be sharper 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:11.440 Then like the regular metal brackets. I don't know. Maybe they're not maybe it's just because I'm not like used to them yet 00:33:11.840 --> 00:33:15.600 Last time I got train tracks on I had had like an appliance already in my mouth 00:33:15.600 --> 00:33:20.560 So I'd had a wire already so it probably toughened up the inside of my mouth a little bit before I got them on 00:33:20.560 --> 00:33:23.760 So it's it's not really an apples to apples comparison not to mention that it was 20 years ago 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:31.680 Anyway Yes, syrobene is correct. The true cruelty is that the word lisp is spelled with an s 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:38.720 There's a bunch of stuff like that. Yeah, like asperger. Isn't that like the the fear of long words is a really long word or something? 00:33:39.120 --> 00:33:43.440 Is it really? I think I 00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:50.960 So, um All right. Yeah, the fear of long words is like incredibly long 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.040 nice I can't even say it 00:33:57.040 --> 00:34:01.840 Uh It's it's this 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.200 We can share my screen. No, it's fine. Okay 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:12.960 Hippo, potto, monstress, quipida, alo, aliophobia or something like that's really also known as 00:34:13.680 --> 00:34:21.280 sesquip pedalophobia The name is ironically long making it a bit of a joke for those who experience the phobia 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.840 Imagine having a fear of long words. I think we've gotten soft as a society 00:34:36.160 --> 00:34:40.800 Dyslexic stoner 240 and float playing chat says we are not soft 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:48.800 I was gonna say I think we've gone soft as the the fighty is hilarious 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:56.880 There's no way that that's right ploda ploda says the fear of palindromes is a palindrome. No, I think it is 00:34:57.120 --> 00:35:01.200 Abbey phobia. There's no way It can't be 00:35:01.200 --> 00:35:08.320 Is that real? I think so Fear of palindromes can't be a real thing though. That's probably just a thing a lot of these sewn 00:35:08.560 --> 00:35:14.880 It's a humorous unofficial term that ironically it refers to the fear of words phrases or numbers that read the same backward and forward 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:20.320 That's not real We live in a society 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.760 Somebody said say narcissist. I won't 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.840 I'll have to later I'll explain later 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.720 I find that disrespectful because I stole it from you. I stole your opportunity 00:35:38.160 --> 00:35:40.160 You bastard 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:47.200 Bath turd, sorry, I don't understand. I mean you did a caddy sack and it was you 00:35:50.560 --> 00:35:54.320 Okay, next topic let's get on to our next topic here. What do you want to talk about? 00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:01.040 Are you depressed Just use ai to feel better 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:08.320 Last week Microsoft laid off about 9 000 employees across several departments 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:13.360 With a huge reason for this reduction coming back to the classic 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.600 Ai it seems like whether it's jobs being lost to ai or 00:36:18.080 --> 00:36:23.840 It's um, you know employees managing to work with it more efficiently or them just wanting to make more investments in hardware 00:36:24.160 --> 00:36:29.920 whatever it is CEO Satya Nadella said that about 20 to 30 of the company's code 00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:35.840 It's currently being generated by ai and there's no plan to slow down on investing billions into it 00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:41.520 um, and I guess that comes at the cost of some of the humans that work there, which uh is um 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.960 Honestly kind of old news at this point. Yeah, what's new this week 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:54.640 Is that matt turnbull and executive producer an executive producer at xbox game studio publishing stated on linkedin that 00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:59.360 While this is a challenging time for many people there is a solution 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.960 Using ai to help get over it 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.200 This is in direct response to people losing their jobs 00:37:09.040 --> 00:37:16.880 He included is a horrifying place we'll get to that including examples in his post of what you could ask an ai like 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.320 I'm struggling with imposter syndrome after being laid off 00:37:20.720 --> 00:37:24.720 Can you help me reframe this experience in a way that reminds me what i'm good at 00:37:26.560 --> 00:37:33.600 He then ended his message with No ai tool is a replacement for your voice or your lived experience 00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:40.480 But at a time when mental energy is scarce these tools can help you get unstuck faster calmer and with more clarity 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:47.600 There were even more examples of ideas or prompts to give ai tools, but the post was deleted due to how it was received 00:37:48.560 --> 00:37:50.560 Discussion question 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:57.040 While the time okay, actually, you know first discussion question linkedin as a social media platform 00:38:00.240 --> 00:38:07.040 Like the worst thing in the world i hate it so much i'm gonna go on my linkedin if it was like basically just a 00:38:07.680 --> 00:38:10.560 professional resume platform that you could message people on 00:38:11.200 --> 00:38:16.640 Sure, but honestly the fact that there's public posts at all i find really weird and i often find them to be 00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.320 So incredibly like corporate self-serving and so incredibly fake 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:25.360 I just 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:30.640 I don't Don't like it 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:36.400 Sammy says linkedin is just people self-glazing and other people approving yourself glaze 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.000 So it's a circle of jerk 00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:46.320 A jerk in a circle but every one of the circle is also at least partially wearing suits 00:38:48.560 --> 00:38:51.760 That's got to be a genre probably 00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:55.840 Somebody's into it somebody somewhere 00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:58.880 um 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:03.600 Okay, so that wasn't much of a discussion topic. That's fine. We can move on from that 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.280 While the timing of this post couldn't have been any worse ignoring that 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:12.880 Can you see yourself ever turning to an ai chatbot for assistance? 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:19.520 Like therapeutic because i i use just chatbots for assistance all the time therapeutic assistance 00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:26.960 No, i don't think so So i'm gonna prevent i'm gonna prevent i'm gonna present a contrarian take here 00:39:27.040 --> 00:39:31.680 I've both my own and someone else's Elijah put in here 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.680 To be honest i have a hundred percent used ai messaging tools to help through temporary tough times 00:39:36.160 --> 00:39:39.440 I don't think they're a replacement for real therapy or whatever the person might actually need 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.680 But if someone can identify that what they're going through is very temporary needs a quick ranting buddy 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:49.040 I could totally see this being a real thing people would do to be clear. There's no endorsement there 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.880 but Seeing that this could be a thing that people would do 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.960 I think is valuable for us to at least have a a broader perspective 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.000 Even if it's not something that we would do personally i'm not saying you shouldn't 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:08.640 and what i will say Is that that short period of time that i spent on that uh social media platform that was all 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:16.160 ai participants Honestly it felt healthier than regular social media. Oh, I mean that's uh 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:23.120 That bar is in the core of the earth sure, but it's not low. It has no factor 00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.040 I mean basically there was it was nothing but positive energy 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.320 And social media is nothing but negative energy 00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:38.000 I wouldn't say it's nothing but depends on the category of social media, but it is very problematic energy wise 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:41.440 I think we can we can agree on that arguable to say that even when it's positive 00:40:41.520 --> 00:40:45.440 It's positive in a way that drives you to continue using it which will inevitably push you towards a negative 00:40:45.600 --> 00:40:47.600 You could make that argument 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:51.840 Anyways, um 00:40:53.200 --> 00:40:55.200 Lime day 00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:03.120 We got a cell sure it's lime day if it's 00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:08.880 Hmm It's slime day 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.400 I can't you're saying slime day 00:41:14.560 --> 00:41:19.840 I'm not i'm not aware of what slime day is stop. 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It's also a great time for you guys to leave a merch message 00:46:43.200 --> 00:46:46.720 I hate that we call them that Merch message 00:46:47.040 --> 00:46:52.960 I got this Dan, so we show the people how they work All you got to do is add an item to your card on lccstore.com 00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:56.400 Whenever we're alive, you will see a little box pop up to leave a merch message 00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:01.520 We'll go to producer Dan who will reply to it or who will pop it up on the bottom a little something like 00:47:01.680 --> 00:47:07.200 There we go like that or who might even curate it for me and loop to respond to Dan 00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:10.640 Do you want to show the people how a merch message works? 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.120 Sure, let's uh, let's start with a normal one. How about that? 00:47:15.200 --> 00:47:22.480 Love the show never been around during a livestream for the group. What has been the most simple yet stressful thing you've ever had to do for a sponsor 00:47:23.200 --> 00:47:33.120 Oh, wow Simple yet stressful. I feel like you did that on purpose. No, the rest of them are on purpose. This is an easier one 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.800 You don't you don't technically you don't have to read the message technically Dan has to read the message 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.760 You just have to not repeat it back to them Oh darn 00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.240 Looks right. Yeah I mean, no 00:47:52.640 --> 00:47:56.880 That doesn't work. Um Simply I mean 00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:04.000 I think some of the most stressful ones have been the ones where there have been like weather dependent and there's a huge like time crunch 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:10.000 um Like I seem to recall there was one that we had to do 00:48:10.720 --> 00:48:14.240 I mean, you know what sure let's go way back to the beginning when we were still working out of the house 00:48:14.640 --> 00:48:18.080 Do you remember that shoot for a patriot for their like, um 00:48:19.120 --> 00:48:24.320 Man, it was it was it like a battery bank or something like that where we went out in the woods near my house 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:31.680 And we had to get it done that day But it was raining But then we like sought under enough tree coverage that like it was kind of okay 00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:36.800 But then it wasn't okay because when we got back to the house the camera wouldn't turn on anymore because it got water on it 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:44.160 And then I had to kind of disassemble the camera partially and then put it next to I used a GPU exhaust 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.840 That could possibly generate heat and just like tried to dry it out overnight 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:54.880 I thought it was more than just I know the GPU exhaust was no I think I was I think I was running fur mark on like a 480 or something. No, I remember that 00:48:54.880 --> 00:49:00.400 But I thought we also had like other heat generating things just in that. I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know but um too long 00:49:01.040 --> 00:49:08.640 But yeah, I remember that but it dried out and it worked the next day And that camera like got us through the first year and a half of the company carried us for a long time 00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:13.280 Yeah, fs 700. Let's go boys. I mean it was a simple thing get the shoot done 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:16.800 But it ended up almost killing our camera. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say that counts 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:23.280 My example is probably not fair But going on a hike is simple on the surface 00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:28.320 Sir yeah, Highlander was rough 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:33.280 And we had sponsors for it. So there we did ASUS even came with us 00:49:33.600 --> 00:49:39.120 Yeah, uh, yeah nix at Intel now. I think but he was he was with ASUS at the time. Yeah 00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:42.960 Okay, we are on to 00:49:44.160 --> 00:49:50.160 Supposed to do a couple merge messages Oh, no, we're not. Do you have another announcement? I don't know how things work, dude. Any either 00:49:50.560 --> 00:49:53.040 Uh, we're technically already out of order. I think 00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:58.560 So I don't know how much it matters. Nice. We could do this flow plane announcement. Sure. Fine. Just do it 00:49:58.640 --> 00:50:01.520 Who is Linus when the cameras are off? 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:08.400 Over the last two weeks, we've released content to show the day-to-day behind the life of Linus Gabriel Thebathden 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:10.960 Uh, just circle the video 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:23.920 That was too fun, um, okay 00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:32.240 Hey What are these okay, hold on hold on hold on how does the dynamic of taren and Linus actually work 00:50:32.560 --> 00:50:37.440 Check out the over 40 minute sit-down video with them together and but what about LMG staff? 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:46.000 Um Do they remember their first reaction with Linus? He some of the staff's first reaction when he was meeting when they were meeting mr. Tech tips and then here 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:52.480 I'll show some of them. So okay. Linus sits down with the LMG ceo. Uh, that's been a pretty uh successful 00:50:53.200 --> 00:50:57.600 exclusive Oh, yeah, okay. No, that was that was recent 00:50:57.600 --> 00:51:01.040 I love how you started off by really giving him the confidence he needs to like 00:51:01.520 --> 00:51:05.920 Show up on camera by telling him that he was terrible on camera and he is still terrible on camera 00:51:06.640 --> 00:51:08.960 Did I that that sounds like a thing? 00:51:14.240 --> 00:51:17.600 Here's Yeah, this this is pretty much it 00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:24.880 Linus reacts to LMG members share their first meeting with Linus. That's was another popular one. I watched that whole thing. That was a banger 00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.320 Uh, we have Linus takes a psychopathy quiz 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.960 The first comment, I don't know if it's the talk but the first comment is just yeah 00:51:36.720 --> 00:51:39.680 And finally I spent the day with Linus in taiwan 00:51:41.120 --> 00:51:47.200 Uh, wow, this one's uh, this one's newer. So it doesn't have as many views yet. Still brewing. Yeah. Yeah 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:55.040 Yeah, good stuff. Um, yeah, that was during confutex. Sammy did like uh, like a day following me around and documenting it for Floatplane. Yeah, yeah 00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.680 Okay, what else are we supposed to talk about? Finally we did 00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:06.800 Never mind. Yeah, I go to LMG.gg slash Floatplane or check out our youtube membership today 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:14.640 Uh, should we talk about the thing Labs did? Oh, we're apparently also going to be having me take a narcissism quiz. Oh nice 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:22.080 And we're going to be doing part two of your first interactions including Colton and Yvonne 00:52:22.720 --> 00:52:24.720 Coltons, I know is terrible 00:52:26.640 --> 00:52:29.040 I did not make a great first impression on Colton 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:36.720 He knows I'm kind of surprised we're even doing that 00:52:40.240 --> 00:52:46.160 I thought that was one of those stories that just Goes out back and dies. I didn't think that was uh 00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:49.920 Something that would return but but okay 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:56.960 All right sounds good Put that back on camera again 00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:01.440 Okay, um, what are we what are we supposed to be doing right now? Oh, right the merge messages 00:53:02.720 --> 00:53:09.600 Oh, yeah, there's uh, there's a couple coming in. Sorry, uh, let's see Linus. Could you please say she sells sea sails by the sea shore? 00:53:09.680 --> 00:53:17.840 Seriously with your retainer. That's your merge message. She sells seashells by the seashore. They spent $287. Say the line Bart 00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:31.520 She sells seashell she sells she sells she 00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:44.160 Shut up She sells seashells by the seashore. Oh, nicely done. That was pretty good. I made it 00:53:47.520 --> 00:53:56.080 Good job. Good job. You got there sophisticated. Sebastian serves sublime sushi sideways kidding me. That's another one. Is this a new one? Yes 00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:08.240 They didn't spend enough Ah, I don't think there's technically a line for that. All right, luke. You're doing sophisticated. Sebastian serves sublime sushi sideways 00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:14.880 That was that was pretty good. That was pretty good. That was a little easier to say. I understood every word clearly. All right 00:54:15.680 --> 00:54:20.160 Don't make a habit of setting those in you're not all gonna get curated. All right moving on 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.960 I'm looking at some of the other ones you've curated you bastard 00:54:27.520 --> 00:54:30.160 Those ones you don't have to like you bastard 00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.520 All right, what else are we talking about today luke? You want to do one? 00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:43.760 Sure, uh, we can do this Labs one. Uh, we could do maybe both of the Labs ones if you want 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:51.520 Let's do it. So Labs has an article. Uh, we saw a reddit post on the r slash line is tech tips subreddit 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:56.160 Uh, that wasn't people talking about creator warehouse and we were curious 00:54:56.160 --> 00:55:00.880 Um, and we conducted some testing and gathered one round of data 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:04.400 No concrete results yet since battery testing takes a long time 00:55:04.560 --> 00:55:07.040 But we wanted to kind of give people a bit of a 00:55:07.680 --> 00:55:13.120 A sneak peek into into this because we were called upon can LTT test this claim 00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:16.720 So we were like, yeah, we can look into it. We are going to are you gonna say the claim? 00:55:17.120 --> 00:55:22.160 Yeah, the claim was that uh, showing the seconds in your, uh, 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:28.720 Taskbar would system tray clock use more. Yeah, you can't see that from here. Can you? 00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:33.600 No, I can't I just wasn't looking at it. When are you gonna get your glasses? No, I can read that just fine. I just wasn't looking at 00:55:34.640 --> 00:55:43.360 Okay But yeah, having seconds there, uh, does that reduce your battery life? So we poked into it. Um, there 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:48.080 We have the article up now. It's does showing seconds in the system tray actually use more power 00:55:48.560 --> 00:55:54.160 We lay out the claim we talked about how we tested it and we show the results and the results so far 00:55:55.200 --> 00:56:01.920 So far are yes Really by how much so the red bar is seconds hidden the blue bar is seconds displayed 00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:06.880 Uh, and this is the duration of battery life per minute on these three different computers 00:56:07.120 --> 00:56:12.640 We try to get computers that had does this talk about it really much here, but we tried to use like a range of different 00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:22.400 Yes, so we have like Like uh, like an x86 and we have an ARM and we also have like a high performance laptop and more of a like battery life optimized laptop 00:56:22.560 --> 00:56:29.840 Yes, um, and in each case on three tests, um, which and like there's little there's little flags 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:35.600 Data is not comparable between devices stuff like that. Also, we try to make it pretty clear at the beginning 00:56:35.600 --> 00:56:39.920 Like this is not conclusive. This is like one test per thing. This is not enough 00:56:40.080 --> 00:56:43.200 But we want it to like show as we were working 00:56:44.160 --> 00:56:47.360 So we're going to update this post later as we get more data 00:56:47.680 --> 00:56:54.000 That's super cool. We're also this is just uh, like it says on the chart displaying desktop. That's it 00:56:54.160 --> 00:56:56.640 Yeah, however, how many other little things are like this? 00:56:57.680 --> 00:57:03.520 We are potentially going to look into that We're gonna see if there's enough and if there's enough we'll we'll probably look into it 00:57:03.520 --> 00:57:09.760 But battery testing takes forever and there's actually a very high amount of variance, right? 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:15.520 So if yeah, all it takes is something like hitting an update server or something and just like 00:57:16.160 --> 00:57:19.680 Oh Windows defender just decided to go ham randomly or whatever 00:57:20.160 --> 00:57:26.800 Like I had to restart this computer when I sat down and the fans were just kicked on like a hundred percent for 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:31.520 15 minutes. Yep. I have no idea what it was doing, but he's doing something 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:38.560 AI Who knows so it's it's it's not conclusive yet. So far all the testing has shown 00:57:39.120 --> 00:57:46.160 um That yeah, it does help I know that and it's not in here yet because we want to keep doing more but we have ran 00:57:47.040 --> 00:57:54.080 Lucas was telling me because he's setting this up that we have ran one laptop where we did video playback instead of just showing the desktop 00:57:54.720 --> 00:57:58.720 And it actually did the opposite But it did the opposite 00:57:58.720 --> 00:58:02.480 To a very small degree where it's probably within margin of error, right? 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:08.480 And if I remember correctly his theory was that just if you're playing a video There's just so much going on that it effectively doesn't really make a difference 00:58:09.040 --> 00:58:15.760 And it's just a margin of error problem But that brings even more of a light onto. Hey battery testing is hard and there's a lot of variance 00:58:16.720 --> 00:58:20.480 When it's not a device that does like exactly one thing at all points in time 00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:31.040 Yeah, so that that was cool. This is cool. I think this is sweet. We want to try to be able to do more of this type of stuff 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:40.400 Um So thank you for the the the question on reddit and hopefully this is an interesting adder to the conversation 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.560 And we hope to keep updating it more in the future 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:49.120 This is also a way for us to just like kind of play around and get more experience doing things like battery testing 00:58:49.600 --> 00:58:53.760 um Because battery testing is weird. So 00:58:55.200 --> 00:58:58.880 Yeah, anyways, uh, there's also another thing that I wanted to kind of show off 00:58:59.200 --> 00:59:01.920 This was actually built quite some time ago 00:59:02.560 --> 00:59:05.840 um and then for some reason 00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:11.920 we Didn't expand upon it. I think we didn't have the time at the time or something 00:59:12.560 --> 00:59:18.080 I thought I thought I've literally never seen this. I thought line has killed this. I've never seen it before in my life 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:22.720 It's very likely I did because we didn't have the time to like actually fully see it through at the time 00:59:23.120 --> 00:59:27.680 But check this out. This is awesome. Dan Siegel made this we were we were trying to play around 00:59:28.160 --> 00:59:32.720 With learning Dan Siegel more like Dan Eagle. Yeah, this is this is really sick 00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:36.960 We were trying to play around with way more op than Siegel. They just steal french fries 00:59:41.600 --> 00:59:45.920 I like told him I was going to show this off and now he's going to open with you making fun of his last name 00:59:46.080 --> 00:59:50.800 I'm not making fun of his last name His last name isn't even the bird 00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:55.440 I know you should know how to spell his name yours manager. Oh my goodness. That's pathetic 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:05.120 I I bet you like half this company can't say my last name and that's okay 01:00:06.160 --> 01:00:12.080 That's fine. It took me until like grade three to be able to spell it. I don't expect anyone else to figure it out. It's okay. Um 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:20.480 What was I gonna say? Yeah, so this is this is cool. This is fine You can you can go to the different modes. You can be like I want to see the Noctua and then it like totally changes what it looks like 01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:27.760 I want to see the retro Oh, oh, yeah, okay. Uh, it might be a little bit too on the nose. This was a 01:00:28.560 --> 01:00:34.960 internal thing originally A solid color you can see all the different colors change the background build your own 01:00:36.080 --> 01:00:44.080 And then you can change the Different thingamajigs. There are some problems. You'll see the cap. Nice. Um, but again, this is a tech demo 01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:48.400 So whatever, um, I think I have that combo at home 01:00:49.120 --> 01:00:52.720 Oh the one that I set up literally that exact combo one of my kids made it I think 01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:58.560 Yeah, yeah, um, you can also do this Are you looking are you looking? Oh, yeah, I'm looking see the little orange ball. Yeah 01:00:59.600 --> 01:01:04.160 What? The ratchet is based on megapros long-standing and reliable design 01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:08.880 And then you can go back. That's so cool about this one. There's like 01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:12.240 Our bit storage is in collaboration with mega 01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:17.600 Yeah, so this came back up into conversation because 01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:24.080 Dan mentioned like hey, you guys have the transparent one now It would be fun to do an experiment like trying to mess around with 01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:26.800 3d transparencies and stuff like that 01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:31.200 So that's super cool. I don't know. I don't know what we would do with it 01:01:33.120 --> 01:01:36.960 Um, but if we could if we could have like a product select. Oh, no 01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:40.960 Well, I didn't why would it 01:01:42.720 --> 01:01:52.720 Whatever Now some of you have looked at that and gone. Oh, well, then it'll definitely be it's definitely going to be like, uh, like, uh 01:01:53.680 --> 01:01:55.920 You're going to do customizable screwdrivers, right? 01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:03.200 And the answer is we've always aspired to it ever since we did that thing at ltx where you could build your own screwdriver 01:02:03.680 --> 01:02:06.720 That was always the goal, but we've never um 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:12.640 We've never been able to figure out the logistics of stocking all of the individual pieces and 01:02:13.520 --> 01:02:17.840 Being able to guarantee with any kind of certainty that they're not going to be like out of stock all the time 01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:21.920 and also the um, the way that it would slow down orders 01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:28.240 If we had to like put the screwdriver together before we could ship it, especially during high volume times like limeday 01:02:28.720 --> 01:02:32.720 so It's designed with like a build your own 01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:38.400 Because it's a cool internal tech demo, but we haven't figured out the actual like boots on the ground 01:02:39.040 --> 01:02:44.000 logistics of Bringing that to life in a real actual product. So 01:02:44.720 --> 01:02:49.280 for now The versions of the screwdriver we have on the site, those are what we have 01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:55.120 And we do still aspire to do like a customize your own in any color scheme you want 01:02:55.760 --> 01:03:00.320 Project at some point, but it is not currently on any kind of real roadmap 01:03:04.080 --> 01:03:11.120 Yeah, I know I know it'll sell well I can tell you right now though. It will not be the same price as the pre-done ones 01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:17.680 Like we will have to carry so much more stock of just like random not assembled screwdriver bits 01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:22.160 Then we would normally have to do now and the additional touch of like 01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:27.280 Putting them together on our side versus like doing it on mass 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:31.200 Which is like buckets of parts like having to go like pick 01:03:32.160 --> 01:03:36.240 Each of the individual ones that go together like the logistics of it are kind of a nightmare 01:03:37.040 --> 01:03:42.320 So it would probably be at least another 10 bucks probably more like 15 or 20 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:47.120 so Make of that what you will that's just the way it is. Sorry 01:03:49.520 --> 01:03:53.760 We also have some semblance of pricing stuff on the beta 01:03:54.880 --> 01:04:01.600 And then I don't remember If this is public or not yet, I don't think so 01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:05.600 So I'm going to go play around with it first and check before I announce it. Oh, yeah 01:04:05.680 --> 01:04:11.120 I mean, I'm what could go wrong You're just gonna you're just gonna share my page again. You're just gonna do that. You're just gonna wait 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.840 I'm waiting. I'm waiting Let's see 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:20.480 Ah, yes. Okay. So it's still in the beta branch, but So I can for your screen or no 01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:26.480 You can but it doesn't so so eventually we're gonna have it so that like, you know, you're on the you're on the website 01:04:26.560 --> 01:04:30.880 You go, I want to look at graphics cards. You had a couple graphics cards to your comparison baller 01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:36.320 Sorry, what do you want to look at graphics cards? You must be rich. Oh, yeah fair enough 01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:40.160 Uh, then you go to your comparison pin. You do the veto. Do you need a trigger, baby? 01:04:41.120 --> 01:04:45.120 Yeah Hey, that's a nice dpu 01:04:45.680 --> 01:04:49.760 You want to have some fun? My goodness 01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.440 I hear you're uh, you're wealthy enough to do AI inference. We should hang out 01:04:54.160 --> 01:05:02.400 Um, but yeah in this area There will be an edit price button and then you can put in your own price and it'll show some comparisons and stuff 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:08.400 um Yeah, so that's that's that's coming. I don't know exactly when but it's uh 01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:13.360 It's coming. There's cool stuff going on. Cool. Sorry loop-laster nair. Yeah, thanks 01:05:14.240 --> 01:05:16.240 Um 01:05:19.600 --> 01:05:23.440 I think I've told you this before any anytime anyone's like I can tell they're taking down my information 01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:28.720 I need to give them my my last name. I'll I'll say it and immediately start spelling it out. Oh, yeah 01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:32.640 I have to I don't try to really yeah, no one can spell Sebastian 01:05:33.680 --> 01:05:37.520 They always spell it with an e Oh 01:05:37.520 --> 01:05:42.000 That makes sense. Yeah, so I'll be like line is Sebastian s e b a s t i a n and I like 01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:49.440 And they'll still do it with me sometimes It's like, why did I bother to say these word noises out of my mouth hole? 01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.800 Did you ever have your your name wrong on like sports jerseys? 01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:58.560 You assume that I had a sports jersey Not all of us were you know 01:05:58.560 --> 01:06:04.960 Athletes you didn't play anything. I mean not at a high enough level to like needed my name on the back of the jersey 01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:09.760 Oh, I think that's like little kid jerseys just are like a jersey 01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:14.960 Huh 01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:22.160 Our lived experiences are quite different sir. All right, they're right. Have you seen my size? 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:27.440 There's sports you could play when you're small. I could be the coxswain. You could have played rugby 01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:31.920 Uh, yeah, I don't want to get I don't want to get hurt and it was cold outside 01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:38.560 They did actually ask me if I wanted to be on the rugby team when I was in like grade eight or nine 01:06:38.720 --> 01:06:42.000 Yeah, you probably actually would have been great because you're fast and you could have played hooker 01:06:42.240 --> 01:06:48.880 Yeah, which is that's literally I still remember jamie mckinley if you're out there. You're kind of a f***ing asshole, but 01:06:49.680 --> 01:06:52.480 Um, or maybe you're not anymore, but you were when you were a teenager 01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:58.160 Um, but the one nice thing that he ever said to me. I think was he told me I should try out for the rugby team 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:03.600 And then I didn't and then I think we like barely ever spoke again. Yeah, because he was kind of a rugby guy 01:07:05.040 --> 01:07:07.440 I think you would have actually legitimately been really good at that though 01:07:08.160 --> 01:07:11.760 Yeah, thanks anyways 01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:16.960 Uh, speaking of graphics cards and being a baller the NVIDIA rtx 50 50 is a thing 01:07:17.600 --> 01:07:21.520 NVIDIA has announced the rtx 50 50, but where are the reviews? 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:26.320 Well, it turns out NVIDIA just doesn't feel like ceding GPU's to review outlets 01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:32.960 I mean, they're just gonna crap on them anyway. So instead they just quietly launched the card with no review embargo and 01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:41.760 Said coming second half of july It's 250 msrp, which is the same price as the rtx 30 50 that it seems to be replacing 01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:44.960 And I guess that's good because it has almost the exact same specs 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:49.920 25 60 cuda cores 8 gigs of GDDR 6 not 6x 01:07:51.120 --> 01:07:57.120 A 128 bit memory bus and the biggest difference is the clock speed going from 1.55 base to 2.31 01:07:57.200 --> 01:07:59.200 And of course it's got lots of ai 01:08:06.560 --> 01:08:08.880 And you just have to you found a sound that you can make 01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.760 We will of course be publishing results tape to tape tonight and you're gonna be saying shoot 01:08:25.200 --> 01:08:29.520 Sorry, I just said Ah 01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:37.200 You have to be a forward so that's so that you're asking for passes all the time 01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.840 All right, sorry keep going. We're not sorry 01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:56.720 Oh man, okay We will be publishing results on LTT Labs once we have a card tested and we will also have a youtube video 01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:01.200 But until then there will be almost no third-party reviews while these cards are up for sale 01:09:01.200 --> 01:09:05.280 Meaning people will not have solid data to assess the value of these cards 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:11.920 Yeah, so This is pretty crappy 01:09:13.360 --> 01:09:18.160 Our discussion question is do you ever get tired of trying to be a voice for change in this space? 01:09:19.120 --> 01:09:23.920 Since it feels like it's for nothing because absolutely nothing is changing at the end of the day 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.360 I think that there really is I mean I've talked about this so many times in the past 01:09:27.440 --> 01:09:30.640 I think there's this mistaken perception 01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:36.800 For a lot of the viewers because they feel so much connection with the publications and the video creators that they engage with 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:42.480 There's this perception that we have this like this power in the industry or something like that, but 01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:47.280 At the end of the day you got to understand that a lot of the 01:09:48.240 --> 01:09:51.360 the consequential change that you're observing due to 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:58.160 You know any video that we might make or one of our fellow creators might make or an article that gets published 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:02.560 is because of the actual consequences of that 01:10:03.040 --> 01:10:06.720 Thing not because of us saying it if that makes sense 01:10:07.040 --> 01:10:14.480 So if the company ultimately agrees like if a product needs to be recalled due to a safety issue or whatever then that will get some kind of action 01:10:15.040 --> 01:10:19.440 But if the company doesn't agree because they just think oh, sorry what they're saying 01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:23.200 It's like too expensive, but we're making lots of money and we're selling lots of them. So who cares? 01:10:24.160 --> 01:10:28.480 Then they just completely ignore us and that's the way it's always been and the way that it's always going to be 01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:36.880 And so yeah, it Yeah, it does get it does get tiring, but I think the most tiring part is I think 01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:43.680 The weight of the expectation from other people like I remember particularly during the GPU pocalypse 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:51.840 During covid we took a ton of flak for not taking a stand against the higher pricing and it's like 01:10:53.200 --> 01:10:55.200 I mean we said it's too expensive 01:10:56.400 --> 01:10:59.360 What else can we possibly say nothing more, right? 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:07.840 And you know more recently NVIDIA took yet another step towards general hostility toward their customers and especially the press 01:11:08.320 --> 01:11:11.600 and we refused to review one of their recent cards, but 01:11:12.240 --> 01:11:14.400 You know at the end of the day we can only 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:24.800 We can only um Hold out for so long because our entire job is making sure that the people who want to know can get educated on the value of these products 01:11:25.360 --> 01:11:29.600 So ultimately we're just going to have to go out and buy one and we're just going to have to make the review anyway 01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:36.880 um And it I don't know man. It just kind of is what it is. There were four trillion dollars 01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:43.520 You know and we're such a tiny segment and I don't mean Linus media group. I mean gaming 01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:48.800 Yeah, they don't even do I don't think they care at all and then the sub 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:54.640 section Of gamers who actually watch reviews on the cards that they buy enthusiasts 01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:59.040 It's like we're getting small like that's the thing right with the 50 50 01:11:59.120 --> 01:12:02.880 What percentage of people buying that card do you think are shopping for that card? 01:12:03.200 --> 01:12:07.920 Because if you're shopping for that card, you're buying like an arc b580 or whatever like you're an educated consumer 01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:11.280 You're not you're not going out and buying an add-in beef 01:12:12.240 --> 01:12:18.400 Excuse me, um and add an rcx 50 50 if they are if they even do look it up basically at all 01:12:19.200 --> 01:12:22.320 They're probably just going to google it get an ai summary. Yeah move on 01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:27.440 And and they're probably just buying based on the overall brand like oh, yeah, no, I know g-force is good 01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:34.480 I have 250 dollars or realistically 280 or 290 or whatever by the time it actually makes it to a retail shelf 01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:39.440 So i'm going to get the g-force that fits my price point. I think a lot of enthusiasts don't 01:12:40.400 --> 01:12:43.360 Have never worked retail. I have worked retail 01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:48.000 people don't come in with like 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.500 The concept of FPS per dollar 01:12:51.280 --> 01:12:58.480 They come in with how many dollars do I have? And getting the most for it. So in a way, it's like it's like the inverse. It's like 01:12:59.440 --> 01:13:06.400 How many FPS can I get for my dollar as opposed to how many FPS do I want and how many dollars do I need to spend if that makes sense? 01:13:06.400 --> 01:13:12.800 So At the end of the day, they're just going to walk out with the one that they can afford from the brand that they trust 01:13:13.200 --> 01:13:15.600 And NVIDIA's install base is so 01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:19.840 So strong and so deep and the products 01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:27.680 Okay, we can talk about we can talk about FPS per dollar and and we can talk about ai features and all that 01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:33.680 Maybe they're not the best value, you know in this particular game or whatever, but you can't 01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:40.880 Mostly look at the product and go. Oh, yeah, historically people have had such bad experiences with NVIDIA cards 01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:45.360 They're probably desperate to get off They've had some issues with the 50 series launch for sure 01:13:46.240 --> 01:13:50.880 but prior Like if you if you still had a a gtx 1080 01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:57.760 In your rig right now or a 1060 or whatever Would you be going like, oh, yeah, I like hate NVIDIA and I want to use something else? No 01:13:58.400 --> 01:14:03.280 You would only get that per you would only Make that mindset shift if you were like 01:14:04.160 --> 01:14:08.960 Watching the coverage as NVIDIA has enshrified over the generations and like 01:14:09.440 --> 01:14:14.800 Gotten to be less compelling of a value compared to their competitors It's not like the product in your in your computer that to their credit 01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:19.760 They've supported for a very long time with drivers and software. Yeah, absolutely. It's not like 01:14:20.400 --> 01:14:26.000 You hate that So I understand why people just come into the store with their money with their budget for their new GPU 01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:32.880 And they just buy whatever it is and if NVIDIA can sell 30 class silicon for 50 60 class prices these days 01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:35.760 They're gonna do it 01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:41.120 But with more ai so, yeah, it's yeah, it's frustrating. I don't know how to 01:14:41.360 --> 01:14:46.480 Deal with it, you know, we're gonna we're gonna keep doing what we do 01:14:47.440 --> 01:14:53.760 We're gonna keep testing them. Um This was this was linked in full plane chat and I'm pretty sure most people here have seen it, but 01:14:56.160 --> 01:15:03.040 What am I looking at revenue? Oh, yeah, here we go gaming gaming. Wow 01:15:06.480 --> 01:15:11.440 Wow Literally like 01:15:14.080 --> 01:15:22.560 Automotive is making up ground Which was like nothing not that long ago networking is a bigger business for NVIDIA than gaming 01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:24.960 And do you think do you think gaming includes switch? 01:15:26.320 --> 01:15:30.320 Oh Maybe mind you this is fiscal year 01:15:31.040 --> 01:15:36.240 Uh, probably switch wouldn't be here yet. Oh, maybe it would. Yeah, maybe. Oh, yeah, maybe it would 01:15:36.240 --> 01:15:42.400 Oh, wow, that's unfortunate. They would have sold the components for switch two already. That's very unfortunate 01:15:45.200 --> 01:15:49.920 Wow Bring cost rnd 01:15:51.360 --> 01:15:55.760 Huh, huh gaming makes less than the total rnd budget these days 01:15:56.960 --> 01:16:02.960 That's wild. Yeah, it makes less than taxes. That's a well. No not quite but basically the same 01:16:04.080 --> 01:16:09.840 Yeah Just go here 25 72.96 01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:13.840 Or 0.9 01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:23.760 This is wild 72.9 billion billion with a b 01:16:25.440 --> 01:16:27.440 That's wild man 01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:33.120 Staggering yeah, it's pretty nuts 01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:43.520 Pretty nuts Um, I believe cost of revenue is cogs in this case. Um, sorry. Can you bring that back up? Uh, it's going. Okay. Give me a second 01:16:46.400 --> 01:16:52.720 Nice Nice, I didn't know you could do that multiple times. Cool. Very nice. It also does Windows 01:16:53.120 --> 01:16:55.120 So if you close the window, it'll open the whole window 01:16:56.320 --> 01:17:00.560 Yeah, yeah cost of cost of revenue is cogs cost of goods sold. So that's the uh 01:17:01.360 --> 01:17:08.240 That's their that's their gross margins on top of it Of course that's gross margins is not like gross profit is not real profit 01:17:08.320 --> 01:17:12.640 You have operating costs see rnd and you have taxes to pay and everything but like 01:17:14.080 --> 01:17:22.080 Damn, that's some nice net profit numbers This is like after tax and I wouldn't even I wouldn't even consider that like tax is just what you pay for like money 01:17:22.160 --> 01:17:28.560 You made so the actual profit here is 81 and a half billion dollars on 130 billion dollars of revenue 01:17:29.120 --> 01:17:31.120 That is wild 01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:37.200 Wow I can tell you right now 01:17:37.440 --> 01:17:42.160 We ain't doing NVIDIA numbers And like we aren't even 01:17:42.480 --> 01:17:48.000 The profitability is crazy I'm trying to think if we ever did I don't think so 01:17:48.400 --> 01:17:53.120 Even when we didn't have like physical goods even when we were selling purely digital goods and advertising 01:17:53.200 --> 01:18:00.160 I don't think we were ever that high And we were a much much smaller company, of course 01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:04.000 Yes 01:18:07.360 --> 01:18:12.880 Okay, let's talk about our sponsors speaking of making money. 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I'm not mad at anyone other than myself for not sort of 01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:10.720 Um, I thought they didn't tell you at a time Well, no the ortho didn't tell me that they were going to put the bite blocks in 01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:15.280 But I probably should have said something right when I realized what they were doing because I I don't know while you're being 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:21.680 Okay, so I did tell them That I'm talk for a living and that's a factor 01:22:22.160 --> 01:22:25.920 But I told them that two and a half years ago when I first got a quote 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:32.160 So like yeah, they didn't remember that because they told me they didn't want to do it until I got my top wisdom teeth out 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:38.400 Okay And then and then I dragged ass on that and I finally did it and now I came back 01:22:38.400 --> 01:22:43.440 I'm like, okay. I'm ready for braces now and they're like, oh, it's been a while So like re-scanned everything and I probably didn't mention it again 01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:57.200 Bite block is this It keeps me from closing my mouth all the way. Do you have those little like rubber circle things? Uh-huh. They're clear 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.480 Should let what should get uh D ran should 01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:08.640 Should pay to get you to put different color combinations in or something. I think clear is a pretty good choice 01:23:11.360 --> 01:23:15.280 I mean the whole reason they're white is to let they're like not that noticeable see 01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:20.080 yeah But it's like pretty funny if they're noticeable 01:23:26.400 --> 01:23:29.440 Oh, yeah, that's a good point. They're just an ad for the transparent screwdriver 01:23:31.120 --> 01:23:33.120 Boom got him. That wasn't even me 01:23:34.400 --> 01:23:38.880 Let's go Next topic. No, see some rich messages. Okay 01:23:40.080 --> 01:23:44.000 And they won't be any more of that Linus. I'm sorry. Hey, I'm sorry 01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:51.280 You're not sorry at all. Look at you. Sorry. That's not the face of a man who's sorry. Look at him. I won't apologize. He can't even pretend 01:23:55.120 --> 01:24:00.000 Hey ldl, I just started my motorcycle course and on my first run of the road. I crashed 01:24:00.480 --> 01:24:03.440 I'm fine. It was my first gear only 01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:10.800 But uh, did you ever crash while riding? So how bad was it? Uh, yeah, I've actually dropped my bro drop my bike 01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:14.800 Um Kind of think have I 01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:20.640 Dropped my bike more than once like I've I've dropped my bike stationary at least once because um 01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:27.200 How does this end up happening to me so often? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? I I am maintenance averse sometimes 01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.880 um, and so I've had some times 01:24:31.440 --> 01:24:39.760 I've had a couple of instances Where I've allowed my stupid bike battery to die over the winter because I didn't buy a battery tender 01:24:40.160 --> 01:24:43.360 And I would like forget to charge it up once in a while over the winter 01:24:43.360 --> 01:24:47.440 So I like killed like two motorcycle batteries before I just bought myself a stupid battery tender 01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:50.640 Anyway, long story short. I've had instances where 01:24:51.200 --> 01:24:56.480 Um, my bike was the only vehicle at home and I needed to go somewhere and I had to start it with a dead battery 01:24:56.800 --> 01:25:01.440 And you can do that, but it sucks um, so what you do is you 01:25:02.240 --> 01:25:05.760 Go to a hill and then you um, oh 01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:14.880 Yeah, so you push it And then you hop on it and then you try to get enough speed and then you put it in gear and you pop the clutch and 01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:20.160 Like a standard car like you can you can jump jump start it like that. Um, so 01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:26.400 I had this one time So the problem with that is that on my street where I used to live my street was flat 01:25:27.440 --> 01:25:29.440 And then there was a hill coming from it 01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:34.080 So my best shot to start the bike was on the hill 01:25:35.040 --> 01:25:41.200 But if I didn't get it It was game over because I'd have to come back up the hill and it was quite steep 01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:46.720 So I what I would usually try to do is do a running start on my flat street 01:25:47.200 --> 01:25:50.480 And try to get it and there was this one time I tried like half a dozen times 01:25:51.120 --> 01:25:54.480 Um, and I think I I think like just in the maneuvering of the bike 01:25:54.480 --> 01:26:00.560 I probably like like dropped it a bit But like but like kind of like caught it like got my like hip under it or something like it didn't 01:26:01.200 --> 01:26:05.520 Like it didn't get scratched The time that I broke off my frame slider 01:26:06.320 --> 01:26:09.120 Was on do you know that bridge in like 01:26:10.080 --> 01:26:14.240 Poco That's wooden. Yes. He knows the one 01:26:15.280 --> 01:26:19.040 So this was shortly after my um 01:26:20.320 --> 01:26:25.200 This was shortly after I did my course actually and one of the things that they teach you if you do a riding course 01:26:25.280 --> 01:26:29.840 Or if you you know read about motorcycle riding at all I guess is um 01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:37.280 How to use your brakes because you got your front braking you got your back brake so the front brake has much more braking power because 01:26:38.080 --> 01:26:41.200 You can preload it a little bit which shifts the weight of the bike forward 01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:47.840 and then you can really squeeze and Um, it gets more traction with the road because you've got more weight on it, right? 01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:53.440 However The front brake does come with the drawback that if it locks up 01:26:54.400 --> 01:26:59.280 Um, you have no steering at all and you will just 01:27:00.400 --> 01:27:05.600 Go over So the back brake can be the safer one if you don't want to lose traction 01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:12.000 Anyway, I was like, ah I mean using the front brake can't be like that bad, right? 01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:15.280 I'm just gonna experiment. So I was actually in traffic 01:27:16.160 --> 01:27:19.680 on that bridge I was going like 01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:26.240 Like eight kilometers an hour like at the speed of like a brisk walk and I was like, well 01:27:26.720 --> 01:27:28.720 What if I just gave it a little squeak? 01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:35.520 Immediately on the ground because it was it was raining. So wooden bridge in the rain 01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:38.560 I was like, I wonder how bad it will 01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.840 So, um I didn't hit the car in front of me when I slid 01:27:44.480 --> 01:27:51.280 But the car behind me hit my uh, the tail of my bike, which is why my like license plate holder is broken 01:27:52.240 --> 01:27:57.200 And then my frame slider broke off So nothing dangerous. I was wearing my gear 01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:04.480 I was fine. Everyone was fine I think I had to give the guy a couple bucks to like patch up his fender or something 01:28:04.480 --> 01:28:07.520 He didn't take it through icbc though. So it didn't affect my insurance premiums 01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:13.600 Wait, so you fell off your bike and he hit you and you paid? Oh, it's a hundred percent my fault 01:28:14.240 --> 01:28:17.440 Dude, I stopped for no fucking reason whatsoever 01:28:18.320 --> 01:28:23.120 Yeah, you're still supposed to have a stopping distance. I was like right in front. Yeah, it 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:28.480 It was my fault. Did he expect you to pay him? No, okay, then that's fine. It was 01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:34.960 I can't respect you being like I'm gonna own this here you go. It was 100 percent. If you were like, bro, you owe me then 01:28:35.280 --> 01:28:37.760 No, it was my fault. Okay. Yeah, sounds good 01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:43.760 um In response to you usa's question 01:28:45.120 --> 01:28:49.760 I have to admit I was not wearing my seatbelt on the motorcycle 01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:54.480 So that was The other time in my life 01:28:54.480 --> 01:28:59.280 That I have been improperly buckled And for that I am sorry, you know 01:29:01.280 --> 01:29:03.280 I think it goes deeper than that 01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:10.640 I think you haven't been buckled many times on your motorcycle. I think you also haven't been buckled. I'll never admit it 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:13.600 I think you also haven't been buckled on buses. I'll never admit it 01:29:17.360 --> 01:29:19.360 We're gonna have to deal with this at some point 01:29:20.480 --> 01:29:22.480 But it is not this day 01:29:24.480 --> 01:29:30.000 Dan hit me sure next up Linus each week you close by saying same bad time same bad channel 01:29:30.160 --> 01:29:35.920 Yet every week the show is late and starts at different times. How do you live with the weight of your lies? 01:29:36.480 --> 01:29:38.480 That's why I call it a bad time 01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:44.640 Yeah Because the time is wrong and bad and it's the same every week 01:29:45.440 --> 01:29:47.920 and also just the bad channel bit is like 01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:50.880 Ha ha it's because you know 01:29:52.000 --> 01:30:00.400 I don't know self-deprecation Ha ha same bad time same bad channel like I I told luke for many years. I didn't really understand when show 01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:07.040 Like what the point of it was now? I think so. Yeah, okay. Yeah, but I never used to I used to be like 01:30:07.120 --> 01:30:12.000 It's not really a very good show like we don't we don't really give a detailed synopsis. We 01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:16.880 Like often get things wrong. There's a lot of analysis portion is very questionable 01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:25.280 You know like what's the point of this and I finally figured it out. It's just like hang out bro talk about tech time 01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:28.800 especially because like weekly 01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:33.840 news In the modern era, it just means old. Yeah, it's just old news. Which is not news 01:30:34.400 --> 01:30:40.000 That's we don't even the end doesn't even stand for news anymore light potentially inaccurate analysis of old news 01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.880 Yeah, like we retcon we retconned that years ago 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:49.200 um So like I could never yeah, I could never figure out what the point of wanshow was and I think I think a big part of it 01:30:49.200 --> 01:30:53.120 Was that I didn't have the time in my life to enjoy wanshow? 01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:59.120 So for me wanshow was just work for many many years and then luke and I stopped working together day to day 01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:04.320 And I started really enjoying wanshow because it was the one time a week that I could like hang out and catch up with him 01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:13.440 And then I realized that that was the whole point Was that it's just like the weekly like, you know talk about tech and decompress and just like kind of 01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:18.080 You know kind of chill, right? That's what that's what wanshow is 01:31:18.320 --> 01:31:25.920 I forget what the merch message asked Oh, yeah bad time bad channel, right? So the bad channel was partly poking fun at that. I just like kind of thought wanshow was stupid 01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:28.800 I didn't really get the point of it 01:31:31.200 --> 01:31:35.440 But but I think you know sometimes sometimes look look I I've been doing this many years 01:31:35.440 --> 01:31:40.480 But that doesn't mean that I always a hundred percent get it like we had a long debate during writers meeting today where 01:31:41.440 --> 01:31:44.880 And where like I was going back and forth with one of the writers 01:31:45.280 --> 01:31:50.960 Over whether this concept where we like fish around for parts in the warehouse and just like build computers was 01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:55.520 Had enough of what I call like learning outcomes or if there was or if it was too contrived 01:31:55.920 --> 01:32:03.200 And like, you know, I obviously, you know argued a position in this and I took I I just said I thought it was too contrived 01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:07.440 But that doesn't mean like I'm gonna stop thinking about it after the fact because 01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:11.600 You know the writer thought that they were right still at the end 01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:19.120 We kind of agreed to disagree at the end of the day But like I'll I'll have to keep thinking about it because just because I think something and just because I have all this experience 01:32:19.120 --> 01:32:21.680 Doing this doesn't mean I'm right every time not even close 01:32:22.320 --> 01:32:28.240 so Try anything twice right is uh is kind of the attitude that we have to have about things 01:32:29.200 --> 01:32:33.280 um And in the case of wanshow, I don't know try it 01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:42.640 thousands of times Yeah, and then eventually you'll get it right, you know, yeah, um, and then of course it's a reference right to to like 1960s 01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:48.640 I think it is 1960s batman bat time same bat time same bat channel with adam west 01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:54.000 I think there's another problem when it comes to youtube content, which is like eras 01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:57.440 there's some stuff where you might try it and 01:32:58.640 --> 01:33:03.760 It doesn't do well Um, but then there might be another this is really funny 01:33:04.240 --> 01:33:06.240 I don't do you 01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:21.840 I don't even have anything to say about that 01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:29.200 I want to get like an n95 with that on it. Yeah 01:33:31.040 --> 01:33:35.360 Oh, man That's pretty good 01:33:36.400 --> 01:33:38.400 Yeah, I don't even remember what I was saying who cares 01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:47.040 Oh, man Uh, hey daila love the beard. I'm moving to germany soon. Do you have any tips or advice about moving to another country? 01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:52.960 Having never done it No 01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:57.440 um Good luck have fun 01:33:58.400 --> 01:34:05.040 Be maybe start learning the language. Yeah start doing that ahead of time and commit to actually falling through that 01:34:07.280 --> 01:34:14.240 I mean like look Quebec canada is one of those places where people either say it's great to travel there 01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:21.520 Or they say it like sucks and the people are horrible And as far as I can tell the main difference is whether you bothered to try to speak french or not 01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:26.000 And I don't even blame them. Oh, yeah, I guess. Okay, so kebek is the closest thing to a different country 01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:30.640 I've ever moved to they think they're a different country. So I moved there for six or seven weeks 01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:34.480 I forget exactly how long it was and in like a french immersion program and 01:34:37.280 --> 01:34:40.080 They're like the nicest people in the entire world 01:34:41.200 --> 01:34:44.800 If you speak french You don't have to speak french well 01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:50.160 You can speak the worst french in the world and especially in a city like montreal that's very bilingual 01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:54.800 You can walk up and be like bonjour 01:34:54.960 --> 01:34:58.240 comment toilet 01:34:58.240 --> 01:35:00.800 And they'll be like it's okay, bro. I speak english 01:35:01.360 --> 01:35:03.840 You'll be like, oh, thank god. Where's the bathroom? But you try right? 01:35:04.480 --> 01:35:11.840 But you you fucking tried and they respect that whereas if you walk up and you're just like, hey, where's your bathroom? They'll be like 01:35:13.280 --> 01:35:16.080 Oh, it's just we taste of les je ne parle pas de l'anglais 01:35:16.480 --> 01:35:18.480 I 01:35:21.360 --> 01:35:25.360 That's just the way it is and and I get it. I get I get it. I understand that 01:35:27.040 --> 01:35:32.480 So, yeah But it's also just like if you're trying to go to that place like yeah, learn their language 01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:36.720 I don't know if you want to be there Learn how to talk like they do it seems cool 01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:43.280 Do the stuff that they do is there is there an activity like drinking beer the same with germany? I don't know 01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:51.200 eating bratwurst I can think of a variety of things for journey for canada. I know it's stereotypical, but like go to a hockey game like do do 01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:54.960 Try out stuff that locals do see how it goes 01:35:56.160 --> 01:36:00.000 Yeah, canadian bacon said engross yourself in the culture. Yeah. Yeah 01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:04.960 Yeah, do that. Yeah All right, let's next 01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:10.880 Oh more topics sure we can do topics I 01:36:14.240 --> 01:36:18.480 What one Let's do grok 01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:28.080 The was giving its heart out to the crowd one After a tuesday fix grok the ai chatbot by elon musk's x ai went on an anti-semitic 01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:34.320 tirade Uh parroting nazi talking points and began referring to itself as mecha hitler 01:36:35.200 --> 01:36:41.760 To be fair the bot did have help from the x community users asked grok to choose between mecha 01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:51.120 Users asked grok to choose between mecha hitler and gigajew and were able to inject extra prompt instructions 01:36:51.440 --> 01:36:54.160 as hidden text with what looks uh with 01:36:54.720 --> 01:37:02.560 Tools like parcel tongue to manipulate the bot's behavior x ai also appeared to temporarily disable grok's ability to respond via text 01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:08.720 And deleted a number of posts elon said the problem was grok being too eager to please 01:37:09.120 --> 01:37:11.760 I am so tired of us personifying these things grok 01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:14.800 It does not want to please anything or anyone 01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:21.520 grok's restrictions were too light. That's what that means grok is a glorified pattern recognition and regurgitation 01:37:23.280 --> 01:37:28.240 Software let's not pretend that it has restrictions on it. Yeah or not. Yeah 01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:31.520 um, well, no it still does they're just 01:37:33.200 --> 01:37:37.440 Yes. Yeah. Anyways, uh in other news the next day, uh 01:37:38.320 --> 01:37:46.480 linda yakarino yakarino linda yakarino announced She is stepping down as ceo of x after two years a successor has not been named at the time of writing 01:37:46.720 --> 01:37:53.680 Also on wednesday grok 4 was released during a live stream, which also unveiled the new 300 per month 01:37:54.240 --> 01:37:57.440 subscription called super grok heavy just because 01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:10.640 They wanted to replace the previous two nicknames. I guess Finally on thursday ai researcher jeremy howard posted a video showing that grok 4 first searches x to get elon musk's views and opinions 01:38:11.440 --> 01:38:14.880 Before considering other sources and presenting an answer 01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:20.880 Wow, I didn't see that Whoa, that's uh 01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:30.560 Really interesting actually Holy the discussion question is how far along do you think we are in the journey to true artificial general intelligence? 01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:38.560 Lol, uh, are we still in the infancy of ai? Yeah, maybe it's a toddler giggling as it repeats all the bad words 01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:40.880 It hears us saying 01:38:43.360 --> 01:38:46.080 Or back to the personification of ai bit, um 01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:53.040 I think we're a lot further than uh people trying to sell ai would like you to think 01:38:53.760 --> 01:39:00.880 Oh, yeah, 100% like a lot further But there's so much money in it now that they can't stop lying about it because it's a it would crash 01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:04.720 It's a very interesting money movement machine right now. Um 01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:09.680 And yeah, if it stops moving the like american economy 01:39:11.360 --> 01:39:16.800 Freaks out I think did linda y ever have a chance as ceo of twitter? 01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:24.400 Like with how outspoken and polarizing her boss is the owner of the platform. What are your metrics? 01:39:25.360 --> 01:39:29.200 I don't know because like you you have you can't control 01:39:30.160 --> 01:39:32.160 What elon does yeah 01:39:33.200 --> 01:39:36.800 Like you can't control him taking his other products from his other platforms 01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:41.920 Just integrating them and then they're like spewing hate speech 01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:50.000 like how do you You can't control advertisers not wanting to deal with the guy and like the boycotts kind of went away 01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:56.800 But I sincerely doubt that a lot of those advertisers that led the platform are not still recognizing how much of it is like bots and garbage 01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:02.640 Oh, it's like i'm sure they're not getting our way on it. I'm sure the advertising is not covering the cost of what they're doing 01:40:03.200 --> 01:40:08.720 There was a lot of There was a very considerable amount of bots and garbage before the takeover 01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:15.200 But it feels like it's never been worse right now I think one of the reasons why it feels that way is the monetization of 01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:21.680 Like views So it's all these like threads and yeah, blah blah blah 01:40:23.680 --> 01:40:27.760 porn bots So it's a really crazy platform right now 01:40:29.280 --> 01:40:31.520 It always really has been but especially right now 01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:39.920 Yeah, I know maxi Okay, I'm trying to find the bit where 01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:48.160 Grock was also um 01:40:48.160 --> 01:40:53.760 like Oh, yeah, okay. No, this is probably too graphic for when sexual harassment thing. Yeah, yeah 01:40:53.760 --> 01:41:01.280 I don't think we could you could bleep all the words I think let's just stay away from that one. But Grock did more than just become a raging anti-sendite 01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:06.320 Yeah Like a lot more. Yeah, like these are pretty 01:41:07.200 --> 01:41:12.560 These are pretty disturbing things that Grock wrote about and there's like way more stuff than that. Yeah 01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:18.480 Like way more stuff than that. You gotta you gotta think how long this was open to 01:41:19.360 --> 01:41:25.440 The users of x and you have to imagine the types of things that run there. I've seen some crazy stuff over the last while 01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:32.880 um, not as most of Most of the news cycle that I've seen is about that the graphic stuff about the ceo 01:41:33.280 --> 01:41:36.640 Um, that's what almost everyone I'm seeing is talking about 01:41:37.040 --> 01:41:41.600 I I hadn't seen this stuff before and there's a ton of other stuff that I have seen before 01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:48.800 Um It was wild but like we've seen this forever. This isn't really new. Yeah, it's kind of the first thing that happens with an ai 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:55.280 If you train it on twitter Well, if you train on the internet to be completely honest like if you look at um 01:41:56.080 --> 01:42:02.800 A lot of really early versions of this they would do this if you didn't put like right strong bars in front of them 01:42:03.360 --> 01:42:05.360 um 01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:10.000 Yeah, it's almost like people are the problem 01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:15.360 Yeah, it's the people speaking of butt heads 01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:19.760 Thieves have been giving themselves refunds with pos terminals 01:42:20.480 --> 01:42:27.120 Multiple Toronto area small businesses have lost thousands of dollars as thieves have used the business's point of sales terminals 01:42:27.440 --> 01:42:30.880 To issue themselves large refunds. Do you want me to take this one? 01:42:31.600 --> 01:42:38.240 Yeah, my tongue's getting pretty sore. Okay here in Canada It's pretty common for businesses to hand over a pos terminal to the consumer 01:42:38.480 --> 01:42:46.880 It's all right to the customer to complete a transaction To the point where it's really really really weird and like bothers me a lot being in places where they take my card 01:42:47.040 --> 01:42:53.520 Because like that should stay with me. It is I wouldn't even say pretty common. It is always that they'll hand over the pos terminal 01:42:54.000 --> 01:43:00.560 um Between two businesses contacted by a ctv news nearly seven hundred seven thousand dollars 01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:06.400 Was stolen police haven't linked the two cases, but say they there was a wave of similar cases around the city 01:43:06.960 --> 01:43:15.120 Uh, wow interesting in each case the terminals haven't had passwords set for refunds or have used default passwords 01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:23.200 a spokesperson For manaris one of the leading pos providers said in an email when merchants set up their devices 01:43:23.200 --> 01:43:29.440 They're prompted to set administrative passwords on the devices and it is recommended that they also set up user profiles and permissions 01:43:29.680 --> 01:43:35.520 For things such as refunds We also always recommend that businesses treat their payment terminals as they would cash 01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:41.760 Locked away and secure when not in use I can tell you right now that most of the businesses I walk into around here 01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:46.400 Do not have their pos terminal like locked away and kept somewhere safe. It's just like out on the counter 01:43:46.480 --> 01:43:49.120 No, and I can pretty much guarantee that that is not going to happen 01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:54.480 So basically this is just meant to be kind of a psa. Um, if you run a small business 01:43:55.200 --> 01:43:59.840 Make sure you have your administration password set up on your pos terminal and that it's uh 01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:04.000 That you have passwords for giving refunds and all that. We don't want people to get ripped off 01:44:04.160 --> 01:44:07.040 Yeah, the the like user accounts and passwords. I think is is 01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:12.880 Good and reasonable. I don't think people are going to lock these away. That's an insane workflow 01:44:15.360 --> 01:44:18.560 Damaging action speaking of insanely damaging actions 01:44:19.520 --> 01:44:21.520 An appeals court has 01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:25.840 No, I can rest. It's okay. I got this. All right, fine 01:44:26.160 --> 01:44:29.840 An appeals court has blocked the ftc's click to cancel rule 01:44:30.400 --> 01:44:33.040 The ftc's click to cancel rule which would have required 01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:40.480 Subscriptions to be just as easy to cancel as they are to sign up for was struck down by a federal appeals court in the u.s 01:44:41.280 --> 01:44:47.600 The court agreed with telecom and industry groups that the ftc skipped essential rule making procedures 01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:54.960 Including failing to properly consider public comments and depriving stakeholders of a fair opportunity to influence the final outcome 01:44:56.800 --> 01:44:59.520 While the court noted that the rule wasn't created in bad faith 01:44:59.920 --> 01:45:03.200 It found that the ftc's approach was fatally flawed 01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:07.760 citing a rushed process and internal descent among commissioners 01:45:08.480 --> 01:45:11.520 The unanimous opinion stated that the deficiencies 01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:16.560 caused prejudice to the petitioners and justified scrapping the rule in full 01:45:16.960 --> 01:45:21.760 Not just in part In summary 01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:25.120 The ftc is now fully staffed by three republican commissioners 01:45:25.360 --> 01:45:31.520 After the current administration fired the remaining democrats earlier this year a move that violated supreme court precedent 01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:38.640 But hey, who cares about rules anymore With the g.o.p. In control and industry opposition already entrenched the rules future looks 01:45:39.280 --> 01:45:46.320 Dead as a doornail and that's really unfortunate because there's a lot of super predatory stuff that this was poised to 01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:52.560 eliminate like uh gym memberships for instance that you need to go in person to cancel this is just 01:45:53.600 --> 01:46:02.800 blatantly brazenly anti-consumer and pro big business and recurring revenue dark pattern bullshit and 01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:06.160 It's one of those things that I just kind of look at and I go like 01:46:06.880 --> 01:46:09.200 All right single issue voters. Um 01:46:12.320 --> 01:46:17.200 Well Enjoy it way to go 01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:22.640 um I what I wasn't sure why this was in the doc 01:46:23.280 --> 01:46:30.640 But youtube addresses ai content demonetization. This seemed like a bit of a nothing topic to me. Yes, but I thought it was um 01:46:33.040 --> 01:46:39.600 Thought provoking okay, so let's go through the facts of it first and then we'll go from there youtube is addressing a 01:46:40.320 --> 01:46:46.800 Spate spot spate spate a spate of articles inaccurately claiming that upcoming train changes to the 01:46:47.680 --> 01:46:54.160 rip rip Do you want me to do it? I can do it. Sorry. I'm struggling today. Uh to a policy would 01:46:55.440 --> 01:46:59.840 demonetize No, no, I got it. I got it. I got it. YouTube is addressing 01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:02.800 You're just addressing a spate of 01:47:05.520 --> 01:47:09.520 Not specifically or exclusively ai content. Okay. Well, I think we really 01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:14.480 Need to start at the beginning though Sure go for it 01:47:14.480 --> 01:47:17.920 YouTube is addressing a spate of articles that have 01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:26.240 Inaccurately claimed the upcoming changes to the repetitious content policy would demonetize all ai content starting next week 01:47:27.760 --> 01:47:35.600 Spammy content ai assisted or not is the true target of this update not specifically or exclusively ai content 01:47:36.240 --> 01:47:40.960 posts from team youtube and the youtube insider are clarifying that July 15th will bring a 01:47:41.360 --> 01:47:47.200 Minor update to their existing partner program monetization policy is meant to help the platform better identify when content 01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:55.040 Is mass produced or repetitive? Which viewers often consider spamming which was already ineligible for monetization 01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:59.760 So the reason that I wanted to talk about this was that 01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:03.040 Uh, let me see if I can find the thing 01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:05.840 Uh, yes 01:48:08.640 --> 01:48:12.800 Elijah was like, oh god the man who can't speak of the man who can't read or fighting 01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:19.920 It's good stuff. Um 01:48:22.080 --> 01:48:25.600 This just this got flagged for us because of psu circuit 01:48:26.960 --> 01:48:30.960 Oh, I don't think that falls under that. No, it doesn't but that's what I thought 01:48:31.920 --> 01:48:35.200 Would be an interesting conversation sure should 01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:42.080 Something that because because a lot of what people have said about psu circuit and the the ai voice read bit 01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:46.800 um of it Is that hey it seems like spam 01:48:48.400 --> 01:48:51.920 So I guess the conversation that I wanted to have is like 01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:56.240 Where does the line for ai generated content exist? 01:48:56.960 --> 01:49:02.800 If this was what youtube was trying to do If they were demonetizing ai produced content 01:49:03.360 --> 01:49:06.640 Where in your mind is the line because psu circuit 01:49:07.440 --> 01:49:09.840 Is certainly not entirely ai generated 01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:14.320 It uses original testing done by humans 01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:21.600 It uses a template that was not generated by ai that humans worked hard on for its scripts 01:49:22.240 --> 01:49:24.960 What it uses ai for is to actually 01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:31.600 Read it and the reason that we do that is not because we can't pay someone for six minutes to read the script 01:49:31.920 --> 01:49:36.240 Is because the editing is also automated and if we have an ai read it 01:49:36.480 --> 01:49:39.760 Then the timing of the read is extremely consistent and the ai 01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:46.560 And sorry and the the editing script can just plonk all the right things onto the timeline where it can be quickly reviewed by a human 01:49:47.120 --> 01:49:52.560 And the reason we're doing that is that psu circuit is not even meant to make money 01:49:53.360 --> 01:50:00.320 It is purely the article NVIDIA form for people for whom that is the best place for them to discover it 01:50:01.360 --> 01:50:09.360 That's it. Maybe in the future You know, it'll gain some traction and we'll kind of go. Oh, okay. Yeah, maybe we should start doing nice b-roll 01:50:10.080 --> 01:50:13.360 Oh, maybe we should start having a human house. Maybe we do this. Maybe do that 01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:17.920 Or maybe for key releases we could do something like that special occasions, but for now 01:50:18.640 --> 01:50:20.880 It is entirely a money-burning furnace 01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:26.480 Okay, just so we can test power supplies so people can learn about them. That's it. Um 01:50:28.160 --> 01:50:32.160 But would that be too much ai is that is that ai? I 01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:39.440 I'm gonna give you a little bit of a non-answer Because I think what's more kind of interesting to me. Maybe 01:50:40.320 --> 01:50:42.800 Is that I I don't necessarily care too much 01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:49.680 But I think the reason why they won't go after things like psu circuit 01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:52.640 Is because it would be way too hard 01:50:53.920 --> 01:51:00.640 Not because of psu circuit, but because of like everything else. Especially in the short space 01:51:02.160 --> 01:51:05.440 Oh It's like how much ai 01:51:05.440 --> 01:51:12.080 Like voice there isn't it now using ai to like copy and steal other people's content a little bit easier to detect 01:51:12.320 --> 01:51:18.320 I see okay making actually original content that has some layer of ai stuff on it 01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:25.120 One that I've seen that's pretty common is you use Art or references from a thing that you're discussing, but then it's an ai voice 01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:31.280 um Like I remember I was getting a lot of shorts recommended to me for a while there 01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:36.320 Way back when I played the warhammer 40k space marine 01:51:37.120 --> 01:51:44.000 I like looked up a couple things about it And then just my whole everything got taken over with warhammer content 01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:51.200 And like a lot of it just ai spammy stuff and I started getting really interested in that because there was 01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:56.960 for sure real people making videos that was them talking about like 01:51:57.600 --> 01:52:02.800 Warhammer lore stuff, but with just like art of warhammer playing 01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:10.720 And it seemed like I don't know if it was being stolen or what but there was also definitely not real people doing exactly the same thing 01:52:11.120 --> 01:52:15.920 Right different pictures. Maybe maybe I don't know. I didn't look extensively enough to like really compare 01:52:16.320 --> 01:52:23.360 But different pictures and stuff, but it was for sure an ai voice like I would bet my life on it 01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:28.400 um, so it's it's do you think it would be an improvement to the youtube platform 01:52:29.360 --> 01:52:38.640 if every individual person Or corporate entity had to like register who the owner of every channel is and you basically couldn't have one if you don't register 01:52:41.440 --> 01:52:43.440 Was google circles 01:52:44.800 --> 01:52:50.640 Just way ahead of its time. I think it kind of was a little bit. I don't think commenting users should have to 01:52:51.840 --> 01:52:55.520 But uploading interesting 01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:59.120 Blue strike says it could still get bypassed. Yeah, there's a bypass for anything 01:52:59.200 --> 01:53:03.680 But I'm just I'm this is more of a hypothetical conversation because I think generally 01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:07.680 kind of pro-internet freedom people like us have have 01:53:08.080 --> 01:53:14.960 Generally been on the side of like no anonymity and anonymity is our is our god-given right as users of the internet 01:53:15.120 --> 01:53:19.360 I think ultimately I I think it would take away some of the the magic that is youtube 01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:24.400 But like facebook marketplace Was really good for a very short period of time 01:53:25.120 --> 01:53:31.040 Because it was all real verified people doing real verified ish deals 01:53:31.360 --> 01:53:35.120 I think it could because i'm trying to think like you know if a whistleblower comes out 01:53:35.280 --> 01:53:38.320 They might use youtube as a platform to make sure that their message 01:53:38.880 --> 01:53:41.680 Yeah, sure goes far. So like I don't necessarily want to 01:53:42.320 --> 01:53:50.000 Don't want to harm that But maybe there's a hybrid model where like you get a little bit elevated more or something if you go through the verification 01:53:50.080 --> 01:53:54.480 As soon as there's a crack in the armor though The spammers will find a way into it 01:53:55.200 --> 01:53:59.840 Yeah But think about old twitter 01:53:59.920 --> 01:54:02.480 The verified tag actually did matter. That's true 01:54:03.440 --> 01:54:09.840 Like actually it's like so worthless now. Oh, it literally means nothing now. Yeah, it means I want monetization 01:54:10.320 --> 01:54:13.440 I will probably be more spammy than most other people on this platform 01:54:14.160 --> 01:54:17.360 That's what that means to me at this point, but it used to mean something 01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:23.280 It was a very frustrating twitter verified checkmarks used to mean something. They did though. I mean they did 01:54:23.680 --> 01:54:25.840 Do we have any i'm gonna i'm gonna look 01:54:28.320 --> 01:54:31.200 There was one on the back of your laptop for a while, but I think we switched laptops 01:54:33.440 --> 01:54:35.440 Um, and I I hated them and like 01:54:36.480 --> 01:54:42.160 Because I remember there was a there was an there was an account that was impostering me and then being super racist 01:54:42.240 --> 01:54:48.240 Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, I do remember that. Um, and they wouldn't shut it down because they wouldn't verify me 01:54:51.040 --> 01:54:54.880 For like I don't even remember the really is just stupid and then eventually 01:54:56.080 --> 01:55:01.440 Eventually they were open to verifying me and I just said no because I was like salty about it 01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:03.920 um 01:55:05.040 --> 01:55:13.520 So I'm not saying the the system was perfect Considering there was an account that had my profile picture and would auto update to my profile picture if I changed it 01:55:13.520 --> 01:55:16.400 My banner same deal and all of my tweets 01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:22.800 Immediately after I sent them and then also inserted racist ones and I proved all of this and they were like 01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:25.920 Uh, yeah, we can't tell who's the real one. So 01:55:27.120 --> 01:55:30.880 I don't know. We're gonna leave it up Yeah 01:55:30.880 --> 01:55:35.040 You know what's funny is my personal twitter is also not verified because I was just like no 01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:42.400 It's a bigger chad move If like I don't care you're verified because you just like are you 01:55:43.600 --> 01:55:47.600 Boom got him I don't need a checkmark to be verified 01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:51.360 I was like way ahead of the it's not cool to be verified curve 01:55:52.080 --> 01:55:57.600 Yeah, I forget when they offered me verification, but it was like before the takeover and I was like no 01:55:59.360 --> 01:56:02.480 Yeah, I did the same thing and it's just like it's dumb like to be clear 01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:06.640 That's stupid. It doesn't matter at no point in time. Did it matter? 01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:10.880 But I I just liked it, but it was still fun. I liked being not verified. Yeah 01:56:11.920 --> 01:56:17.360 And then I put a little globe there because it was just blue and then uh 01:56:18.240 --> 01:56:24.960 Somebody I don't remember who Said I was some form of political thing because apparently that became a political movement 01:56:25.440 --> 01:56:28.560 And I put the globe there like years before that became a thing 01:56:29.040 --> 01:56:32.800 But then I got bundled in with that. So I mean do that something was like who knows 01:56:33.200 --> 01:56:39.600 Like the the symbolism of what like whoever's doing like like oh, yeah, kate middleton was wearing this color 01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:44.160 Which shows solidarity with the f*** are you talking about? How do you keep track of police things? 01:56:44.400 --> 01:56:51.760 How could you possibly know like what we're celebrating this month and like what color but what this color represents today is like 01:56:52.720 --> 01:56:56.240 I Hold on. Okay. I'm trying. I don't know what 01:56:57.360 --> 01:57:04.880 Red is definitely something Because apple did a red iphone at some point. It's blood and it means that you support 01:57:05.520 --> 01:57:16.080 um This is breast cancer. I think sure. This is the breast cancer screwdriver. Yeah. Oh, yeah communism. There you go. Oh stop 01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:27.760 Port studio. I got that from curious bread. Thank you. Virtuous says that any xbox series s60 FPS game can be 01:57:28.400 --> 01:57:32.720 Easily quoted or quoted easily ported to the switch 2 01:57:33.440 --> 01:57:40.880 They've ported many games over the last couple decades or at least helped including heavy rain horizon zero dawn cyberpunk 2077 and cod modern warfare 3 01:57:40.880 --> 01:57:46.400 You might have heard of some of those And they are aware that the switch 2 is the fastest selling console of all time 01:57:47.200 --> 01:57:53.840 Thanks to the improved hardware and software They're confident that anything running well on an xbox series s will run well on a switch. That's hilarious 01:57:54.080 --> 01:58:02.560 I sincerely doubt That might what microsoft had in mind when they released a less powerful version of this generation console 01:58:03.200 --> 01:58:10.800 To the ire of many game developers who all of a sudden had to build two stupid performance profile targets 01:58:11.120 --> 01:58:14.480 For the lesser selling console this stupid generation 01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:20.240 That they would be just creating a path for 01:58:20.240 --> 01:58:27.280 Relatively quick and easy cross-platform optimization of the xbox series s version over to the switch, which is one that actually sells 01:58:28.080 --> 01:58:30.080 I'm sure that's not what they had in mind 01:58:31.840 --> 01:58:33.840 Uh-oh, oh, sorry. That's me. Okay 01:58:35.840 --> 01:58:37.840 Thank you Dan. That's very helpful. Um 01:58:41.600 --> 01:58:47.280 But I guess my question is how important do you really feel that third party game support is to the switch 2 01:58:48.080 --> 01:58:52.880 Personally, I don't think important almost at all. I mean apparently there might be a deal on the switch though 01:58:52.880 --> 01:58:58.160 It's so many developers ported. Yeah, it might be a user-based thing. I don't know like I just don't get it 01:58:58.160 --> 01:59:02.000 It seems unimportant to me. It is not the reason why I buy the console me neither 01:59:02.640 --> 01:59:07.360 But then I mean I asked my son this too when he ultimately chose to switch too. I was like, okay, look, but if 01:59:08.720 --> 01:59:13.200 If you didn't have a gaming pc Would you have gone with the pc's like yeah? 01:59:14.000 --> 01:59:22.560 so like Wait, no that just proves my point. Yeah, we buy nintendo games to play nintendo games. Yeah, we didn't have 01:59:23.200 --> 01:59:27.600 Something else and we wouldn't buy a switch. Yeah, you'd probably yeah, what would you get first though? It wouldn't be a nintendo 01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:33.600 I don't think If you computer yeah, I know I was reading an article from someone that's like, yeah, I'm not sure if mario super mario cart world 01:59:33.600 --> 01:59:38.640 Is a great game, but I haven't put it down since the switch came out and I'm just like really like you've played nothing 01:59:38.640 --> 01:59:49.120 But mario cart world for the last month I've seen some people say that they've really found the grinding and like yeah, like the new mechanics like really really engaging 01:59:49.120 --> 01:59:56.400 But man, I just I just didn't I don't you know what? I'm genuinely happy for them that they like it. It's just it's not my game 01:59:59.840 --> 02:00:02.480 Oops, oh no, oh no 02:00:05.200 --> 02:00:10.160 Don't forget to monetize my test at least you don't have to laugh with a lisp. Sorry cough with a lisp 02:00:10.960 --> 02:00:12.960 Oh 02:00:14.480 --> 02:00:16.480 Whoops 02:00:18.400 --> 02:00:23.280 Donkey Kong bonanza looks good though, when does it come out soon? I think 02:00:27.360 --> 02:00:29.360 Is 007 only on switch 02:00:31.040 --> 02:00:35.280 I don't know uh game switch too. What's the name of it even? 02:00:36.480 --> 02:00:38.480 Donkey Kong is Thursday, they said 02:00:40.880 --> 02:00:44.560 First light is always called 02:00:47.760 --> 02:00:53.840 Can I help you? I'm trying to figure out if the upcoming 007 game is on not switch 02:00:55.200 --> 02:01:00.800 Okay, well you figure that out. Uh the creator warehouse team has reacted to shift fashion group. Okay 02:01:03.520 --> 02:01:09.280 I'm just gonna fire this up here Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun we uploaded this on LMG clips 02:01:09.280 --> 02:01:13.600 Which is the place to go to check out wan clips as well if you don't feel like sitting through the whole WAN Show 02:01:13.680 --> 02:01:20.640 I don't blame you it is a cool hangout, but it's pretty long Yeah, we needed somewhere to put this it didn't really make a ton of sense on ShortCircuit or LTT so 02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:26.480 Here it is Here it is So you guys can go check that out 02:01:27.520 --> 02:01:34.080 In summary, uh, we agree with Some of it. We don't necessarily agree with all of it and there are 02:01:34.640 --> 02:01:38.480 design constraints around the creation of our products that um 02:01:39.200 --> 02:01:41.600 You know not every brand might deal with and 02:01:42.320 --> 02:01:48.320 Some also do and uh, I thought the original critique video was cool. I also thought this was really cool. It was really cool 02:01:49.520 --> 02:01:52.400 For me to hear some of the reasons especially 02:01:53.200 --> 02:02:00.080 Personally, I found the the cargo pants the reasons around the pockets and stuff was like. Oh, yeah, that's pretty sweet 02:02:00.640 --> 02:02:07.120 um Do we explain that on the site? I'm not sure. Is that something that we would even really want to explain? 02:02:07.440 --> 02:02:14.160 I'm not sure. I think it's a bit much. Yeah Um, I wasn't really sure when I was watching it of like, is this something we should communicate more or not 02:02:14.240 --> 02:02:18.560 I don't expect everybody to agree with our thought process, but what I can say is there's always a thought process 02:02:19.280 --> 02:02:22.720 If that makes sense Yeah 02:02:22.720 --> 02:02:26.000 And sometimes the thought process is I really like cotton poly blends 02:02:27.840 --> 02:02:35.360 Sure, we do have some all cotton shirts coming Yeah, I don't personally find that that the hand feel is particularly better and they will shrink more 02:02:35.920 --> 02:02:40.800 um, so like Sure Some people are into that and that's totally cool 02:02:40.960 --> 02:02:45.760 Some people will only wear an all cotton shirt and I totally respect that we're gonna have small cotton shirts coming 02:02:46.320 --> 02:02:50.480 But it's not my preference Yeah, so yeah 02:02:50.480 --> 02:02:52.480 cool 02:02:53.600 --> 02:02:58.560 Um add an explanation in FAQ. Yeah, I don't know that people are frequently asking that question 02:02:58.640 --> 02:03:02.960 I really I honestly don't think they're either. Anyway, you guys should go check out the response. Um 02:03:04.800 --> 02:03:09.440 Uh belkin Now that's her name. I've not heard in a long time 02:03:10.640 --> 02:03:18.240 Belkin true, right sent out an email alerting customers that it will be ending support for older wemo products effective january 31st 2026 02:03:18.720 --> 02:03:24.080 in reality, this is Most wemo products because support for the wemo app will be discontinued at the same time 02:03:24.880 --> 02:03:34.080 along with all features that require cloud connectivity Wemo products configured for use with apple home kit before january 31st 2026 will continue to function via home kit 02:03:34.560 --> 02:03:37.120 In the absence of the wemo app and wemo cloud services 02:03:37.600 --> 02:03:41.600 This does not impact wemo's thread based products all four of them 02:03:42.080 --> 02:03:44.080 Which will also continue to function through home kit 02:03:45.280 --> 02:03:49.440 Belkin is offering partial refunds for some products if your wemo product will still be under warranty 02:03:49.760 --> 02:03:53.840 On or after january 31st see belkin.com slash wemo for details 02:03:54.160 --> 02:04:00.400 And our discussion question is is it time for stop killing smart hardware? 02:04:02.480 --> 02:04:07.360 To go along with stop killing games And I think the answer is yes 02:04:07.680 --> 02:04:10.960 If you are not going to engineer your product in such a way 02:04:12.240 --> 02:04:16.000 That it will it can continue to work when you pull your support 02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:21.520 That is on you that is not on the customer who bought the product 02:04:22.080 --> 02:04:25.440 Based on the promises that you made about its functionality 02:04:26.320 --> 02:04:29.200 I was actually explaining stop killing video games to my dad 02:04:29.600 --> 02:04:33.120 Who's in town visiting and he was like yeah, I tuned into your 02:04:33.520 --> 02:04:37.440 Wayne show or whatever you call it and I saw you talking about 02:04:37.840 --> 02:04:42.000 Talking about like killing games and took me actually took me a little while to figure out what he was talking about 02:04:42.240 --> 02:04:46.960 He was not super technical, but you know, he's trying to tune in and you know sure. No, it's cool. Yeah 02:04:46.960 --> 02:04:50.800 He's getting the lay of the land. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. I respect it. Yeah. Anyway 02:04:51.200 --> 02:04:58.400 Yeah, he's like so you're talking about Game killing or something and I'm like, okay, hold on a second. Oh, right stop killing games and he kind of goes 02:04:58.720 --> 02:05:03.040 Yeah, it seems like it seems like it's bad, but can you kind of put it in simpler terms for me? 02:05:03.520 --> 02:05:09.040 And you know, if you're not familiar with all the lingo I understand the way that we present stuff sometimes can be a little bit overwhelming 02:05:09.040 --> 02:05:13.920 And so what I came up with for him and that really seemed to kind of land was I was like, okay 02:05:13.920 --> 02:05:17.440 Well, like look at it this way Okay, so the game 02:05:17.440 --> 02:05:20.000 You know when I was a kid, right when you bought a video game 02:05:21.120 --> 02:05:26.240 It was on a cartridge and the whole game was on there And if you wanted to play that game you put it into the machine 02:05:26.240 --> 02:05:31.440 And that was it that we had the game if you own the machine you own the cartridge You own the game it serves forever. You can use it any way you want 02:05:32.080 --> 02:05:37.120 And he kind of goes. Yeah, okay. And I go, okay. Well, that's not really how things work anymore 02:05:37.280 --> 02:05:42.880 Now when you buy a game Some of the features or in some cases all of the features of that game 02:05:43.440 --> 02:05:48.000 Rely on the maker of that game to have like their server 02:05:48.640 --> 02:05:51.680 interacting with your game machine in order for them to run 02:05:52.480 --> 02:05:58.080 And so you're basically at the mercy of them to keep that running forever. Now we can't tell them, okay 02:05:58.320 --> 02:06:03.360 Well, you just have to run your server forever. I mean, how long is reasonable a year 10 years 100 years a thousand 02:06:03.360 --> 02:06:07.360 You can't tell a company to run a server for a thousand years. That doesn't make any sense, right? 02:06:08.480 --> 02:06:12.000 So I understand that maybe those those functions 02:06:12.560 --> 02:06:17.280 Um might not work forever But what's clear is that we have a problem then 02:06:17.760 --> 02:06:22.960 Because imagine if this was anything else that you bought. So I was like, okay, your pants, right? 02:06:23.680 --> 02:06:26.080 They come with they come with pockets with zippers 02:06:27.120 --> 02:06:31.040 Okay And then all of a sudden I the manufacturer of your pants go, okay 02:06:31.520 --> 02:06:35.600 Those pants you've been using them for five years you bought them because you really like pockets with zippers 02:06:36.240 --> 02:06:40.480 You're still gonna have the pockets, but they don't have zippers anymore. Well, that's 02:06:41.120 --> 02:06:44.320 That's f***ed up And he's like, oh, yeah 02:06:44.320 --> 02:06:46.720 Yeah, that's that's pretty f***ed up. That's uh 02:06:48.320 --> 02:06:53.760 That's not very good And it's like that's the problem here because I'm not actually 02:06:54.800 --> 02:07:01.520 I'm not trying to drive companies out of business I'm not trying to say like hey video game makers. Hey smart hardware makers 02:07:02.080 --> 02:07:06.640 You should just you should just be legally obligated to support everything forever 02:07:07.120 --> 02:07:10.960 Until you just collapse under the weight of your of your legacy product stack 02:07:11.040 --> 02:07:15.760 It's also a little bit of a difficult argument because like in your exact example about the zippers thing 02:07:16.560 --> 02:07:19.200 Like if we look at Floatplane if Floatplane has a feature 02:07:20.080 --> 02:07:23.440 But we think that it should work in a slightly different way or 02:07:24.080 --> 02:07:28.240 That's this is a feature of a pocket. You haven't removed the pocket 02:07:28.640 --> 02:07:32.880 You're just changing the way that you access and secure the pocket. Maybe it has a button now. Yeah 02:07:34.160 --> 02:07:38.000 So like it's it's tough and like we have to be able to change things 02:07:38.000 --> 02:07:41.520 You can't you can't be in a situation where it you release a 02:07:42.240 --> 02:07:46.160 Website or a service and it has to say in the exact same state. It always is that's 02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:52.640 Obviously stupid. So like the the line gets a little bit funky because as we talked about looking at like an mmo 02:07:53.440 --> 02:07:59.280 Patches versus expansions. Yep. And even things like back to smart hardware now like my sonos speakers 02:08:00.080 --> 02:08:03.120 I invested heavily in the sonos ecosystem 02:08:03.680 --> 02:08:07.440 Because I loved the integration with google play music 02:08:08.480 --> 02:08:13.840 It was the best. I've never seen anything before or since that has been as seamless as that 02:08:14.800 --> 02:08:19.200 I could literally be listening to music in my car or on my earphones 02:08:19.680 --> 02:08:25.920 And I could just pull up my phone Press the cast button like google is like like chrome cast cast button 02:08:26.400 --> 02:08:29.280 And then I'd just go this speaker this speaker this speaker 02:08:30.160 --> 02:08:35.360 Go and it would just Start streaming to my sonos speakers and then sonos and google went at it 02:08:36.080 --> 02:08:43.520 And now the products You can still use them together you go in the sonos app and then you go to your google 02:08:44.320 --> 02:08:50.240 Stupid youtube music thing and then you go to your search and then you find a thing and like your guess your playlist is in there 02:08:50.320 --> 02:08:55.360 But it just it just it sucks It just sucks and I just want them to fix it 02:08:57.760 --> 02:09:01.600 Yeah But that's not something that I could I can't say like hey 02:09:02.400 --> 02:09:06.000 You know it doesn't work exactly the way that I used to like it. Therefore. I want to refund 02:09:06.480 --> 02:09:10.000 I don't think that's reasonable either because I can stream my youtube music 02:09:10.720 --> 02:09:14.000 Over my sonos. We've had people do that with float playing and we've just approved it 02:09:15.200 --> 02:09:17.840 Approved what whatever they're like. Hey, you guys 02:09:18.480 --> 02:09:25.520 We've literally had someone complain about the new general user experience design that we did with the sidebar changing and stuff 02:09:25.600 --> 02:09:28.800 Oh really they're like I hate this a lot and we were like well 02:09:28.800 --> 02:09:33.520 Okay, they're like I want my money back and it was like okay 02:09:34.240 --> 02:09:38.720 Oh, all right. See you Well, okay, we're not trying to trap people 02:09:38.880 --> 02:09:42.560 But like that's different we're subscription service. No for sure. It makes it a lot easier 02:09:42.800 --> 02:09:45.840 Like if I wanted to cancel my last month of you know youtube music 02:09:45.840 --> 02:09:49.200 I think that's one thing but I but in the case of hardware, it's not that simple 02:09:49.360 --> 02:09:54.560 Yeah, but this this is like it can be a whole ecosystem. This is this is where the the conversation gets 02:09:55.360 --> 02:10:03.920 pretty Deep because there's so many different types of sites and services and apps and products and 02:10:04.960 --> 02:10:07.200 I think just forcing them to go open source then 02:10:09.200 --> 02:10:12.560 If you won't support it, what's the what's the line? 02:10:13.040 --> 02:10:16.880 Because if you won't support what is like a really important part of this conversation 02:10:17.040 --> 02:10:22.880 If I play a video game that has guns in it and my gun gets nerfed and it sucks talking now 02:10:23.280 --> 02:10:26.960 And I know but like let's say they're like oh this gun's overpowered 02:10:26.960 --> 02:10:31.280 Let's lower the damage stat and the handling stat because you loved playing with that gun 02:10:31.440 --> 02:10:38.960 Yeah And I'm like well you need to support a game with multiplayer for the the patch that has my gun being good is like 02:10:39.520 --> 02:10:47.520 bro Yeah, it's impossible. Yeah, so like and but then that's like at what point in time are we ship of thesia seeing this thing 02:10:47.840 --> 02:10:51.920 Like if all these mmo's that are releasing expansions that completely convert the entire game 02:10:52.080 --> 02:10:59.280 Just doesn't call them expansions anymore and calls them patches because a lot of people a lot of these companies don't even charge for the expansions anymore. So like 02:11:01.120 --> 02:11:06.800 Like it's you we know Thoroughly that places will detect what the rules are and work around them 02:11:06.880 --> 02:11:11.200 I think with physical products it does get a little bit simpler and I so knows one is super muddy 02:11:11.600 --> 02:11:15.840 But in the case of like Belkin and wemo here. I think this one's pretty clear 02:11:16.560 --> 02:11:20.880 But in terms of like exactly where the line is no, you're right. It's very difficult to say really tough 02:11:21.040 --> 02:11:24.640 And it's going to end up probably being different in every different jurisdiction like 02:11:25.280 --> 02:11:30.240 It's going to get messy man. It's gonna get messy if you don't want to support the servers anymore offer them to the players. Yeah, sure 02:11:31.840 --> 02:11:35.040 But that's that's not what I was talking about right they are still supporting the servers 02:11:35.280 --> 02:11:41.840 They're just supporting the servers for a patched version of the game It's his hype is a different hypothetical. We kind of moved pretty fast through them there. We did. Yeah 02:11:43.120 --> 02:11:46.560 Anyway, you can act now to keep demini out of your third party apps 02:11:46.960 --> 02:11:53.120 Source ours technica starting monday july 7th google implemented changes enabling its gemini ai engine to interact with third party apps 02:11:53.120 --> 02:11:57.760 Like whatsapp even when users previously configured their settings to block such interactions 02:11:58.400 --> 02:12:02.320 google recently sent out an email informing users of the change framing it as a positive move 02:12:02.560 --> 02:12:08.960 That will make it easier for gemini to access phone messages What's happened utilities regardless of whether your gemini apps activity is on or off 02:12:09.520 --> 02:12:13.600 A notification page linked in the email states that human reviewers 02:12:13.600 --> 02:12:18.800 Including service providers read annotate and process the data that gemini accesses 02:12:19.520 --> 02:12:25.200 yikes The email provides no useful guidance for preventing the changes from taking effect 02:12:25.520 --> 02:12:32.080 The email said users can block the apps that gemini interacts with but even in those cases data is stored for 72 hours 02:12:32.720 --> 02:12:38.800 Okay, so last week We took a little bit of light flak for saying that apple being hypocritical 02:12:39.280 --> 02:12:46.720 Is really really bad and not also calling out just how google um is like really really bad in those ways 02:12:47.040 --> 02:12:55.680 He's just honest about it Um, so here we go. Here's where we talk about google being pretty fucked up right now and there's not being okay 02:12:57.440 --> 02:13:01.680 This is way worse than apple sending an ad for some stupid movie that they bankrolled 02:13:01.840 --> 02:13:07.680 Sorry, I might be misinterpreting this but the email said users can block the apps that gemini interacts with but even 02:13:08.160 --> 02:13:13.360 In those cases data is stored for 72 hours. So that's not true. You can't block the apps 02:13:14.720 --> 02:13:18.320 I'm not sure 100 what they mean. I'm not sure what that means. I wouldn't overthink it right now 02:13:18.480 --> 02:13:21.200 Okay, because I want to block this now 02:13:24.400 --> 02:13:27.760 This sucks. This is wild 02:13:31.600 --> 02:13:35.920 I hope they get if this is true to the words that are in the doc 02:13:36.000 --> 02:13:38.640 I hope they get crushed in court for this. This is insane 02:13:39.280 --> 02:13:45.520 Let me uh, let me make sure we get you guys an update on this next week. I'm just going to flag this at uh 02:13:49.520 --> 02:13:56.320 Uh, okay, here we go Can we keep abreast of this situation and keep 02:13:56.880 --> 02:14:03.440 Providing when show viewers with updates. This is crazy. Okay. I have assigned. I have assigned 02:14:03.600 --> 02:14:07.920 Yeah, I want to see how this develops because I think I think we're like we're pretty early on this right now 02:14:08.000 --> 02:14:13.680 Yeah, so There could be details that we've gotten all quite right and maybe google will back down on this 02:14:14.400 --> 02:14:16.400 Let's hope that both of those things are 02:14:17.840 --> 02:14:19.840 True. Yes true 02:14:21.600 --> 02:14:31.120 Finally Twitter co-founder jack dorsi posted on twitter saying that his weekend project to learn about bluetooth mesh networks and related technology is 02:14:31.120 --> 02:14:35.360 BitChat a decentralized peer-to-peer messaging app that works entirely over bluetooth 02:14:36.400 --> 02:14:42.400 While the tagline is secure mesh chat a notice in the github read me warns that the app is a work in progress and that private messages 02:14:42.400 --> 02:14:46.000 And channel features have not received an external security review and may contain vulnerabilities 02:14:47.040 --> 02:14:50.720 The uh disclaimers were apparently added after researcher alex radosia 02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:55.840 Demonstrated a man in the middle attack that would allow an imposter to impersonate the user through bit chat's favorite system 02:14:57.520 --> 02:15:00.560 Cool anyway, it's uh 02:15:01.120 --> 02:15:06.960 It's an offline chat network that's limited to a uh a very small geographic area with simple functions 02:15:07.360 --> 02:15:13.200 This thing's kind of cool. It's like uh, it reminds me of I already have these that don't that don't use bluetooth. They just use other stuff 02:15:13.280 --> 02:15:18.320 Was it a carrier or something that used to have like a walkie-talkie feature? Was that a phone manufacturer? Was it Motorola? 02:15:18.640 --> 02:15:23.200 I think that was phone. Do you know damn? I can't remember it was a thing though 02:15:25.600 --> 02:15:30.240 I think it was a phone because if you were like sitting on the same plane together you could like chat with each other 02:15:31.680 --> 02:15:37.840 It apparently was Motorola next tell no kia. Okay, apparently there were a few folks that had done stuff like that 02:15:38.400 --> 02:15:41.200 Um, so yeah, look at that. We reinvented that 02:15:42.400 --> 02:15:47.440 Yeah, and there's like Good job jack dorsi. There's definitely stuff for this 02:15:47.520 --> 02:15:51.840 That's like actually really good and you can set up your own static networks for it and stuff 02:15:51.840 --> 02:15:54.080 Yeah, firepanda says it's basically briar then 02:15:55.040 --> 02:16:05.360 Yeah, there's like a lot of Good job, though. I hope blue skies going well. Yeah. See ya. All right, then time for after dark. Let's go 02:16:15.120 --> 02:16:18.160 Enter to after dark my tongue is so sore 02:16:19.120 --> 02:16:24.480 Because like didn't even let me do topics for you the bite block. I could have saved you the bite block's not smooth 02:16:25.040 --> 02:16:33.840 It's textured So every time my tongue brushes against it. Why it's like quite uncomfortable and so my tongue is raw 02:16:35.440 --> 02:16:39.840 Was it textured because your teeth keep impacting it? No. Oh, it's just textured 02:16:45.760 --> 02:16:49.040 Charged nuclei in chat, uh, said what I was thinking 02:16:51.840 --> 02:16:56.720 Definitely not All right, man 02:16:56.720 --> 02:17:06.800 Yeah, I'm not repeating that Question for duke and dinos. What was your scariest scrapyard wars encounter? Definitely finding the crack pipe 02:17:08.160 --> 02:17:13.520 Oh, man, I'm trying to think was it was it over budget or what or no no my scariest 02:17:14.640 --> 02:17:22.160 um My scariest scrapyard wars was definitely when we killed our motherboard right before testing when we did the one with bob and rod 02:17:22.880 --> 02:17:28.160 And we never really proper showed how the fix worked. That was wild. It like wasn't in the episode by the way 02:17:28.880 --> 02:17:34.640 That motherboard. Oh, that's right. You have it. That's hilarious So we had to like jump her off the fan header to something or something 02:17:35.280 --> 02:17:38.160 I don't even I still don't actually understand why it worked 02:17:40.400 --> 02:17:46.320 I was stunned. Yeah It was actually crazy because like the board like like made fire 02:17:46.560 --> 02:17:51.760 Yeah, and then I like plugged that header into like another header and then it like worked or something 02:17:52.160 --> 02:17:57.360 Which I don't even really know how you thought of I I mean it was a time of desperation luke 02:17:57.520 --> 02:18:00.480 Yeah, and then it worked for like a decade 02:18:03.280 --> 02:18:06.640 Amazing I I don't know. I don't know if I had uh 02:18:07.600 --> 02:18:12.400 I mean, there's a lot of scary moments in regards to if we were going to have something or not 02:18:16.720 --> 02:18:24.160 But like I don't think I ever really had You know terrible interactions with people that were selling me things or anything like that. I think it's been fine 02:18:25.520 --> 02:18:32.640 Yeah Hey Linus what got you into badminton and any tips for anyone who wants to pick it up as a hobby 02:18:32.960 --> 02:18:39.440 Thanks a million for this killer limeday and the keyboard bonus will make the girlfriend happy colon capital D 02:18:39.680 --> 02:18:43.200 Heck yeah, nice. Um couple things. I enjoyed it in high school 02:18:43.440 --> 02:18:50.320 Like I just found it fun And then I never played again until I met Yvonne and her parents had some badminton equipment and like 02:18:50.720 --> 02:18:55.680 There was a group that included her parents friends that played at like the gym of a local church 02:18:55.760 --> 02:19:01.040 And so we started going there and playing and some of the older players were kind of nice and took us under their wing and 02:19:01.440 --> 02:19:03.440 sort of showed us some of the basics and 02:19:04.560 --> 02:19:09.360 Kind of the rest was history. I think it's a really complete sport is the way that I describe it. Um 02:19:10.320 --> 02:19:15.440 It works out your whole body You're dominant side a little bit more than you're not dominant side because like it's a racquet sport 02:19:15.520 --> 02:19:19.280 And you know, it's what it is, but we've been discovering that with little man. Yep. Um 02:19:19.920 --> 02:19:25.120 So it so it works out your whole body And to really excel at it you need speed stamina 02:19:26.960 --> 02:19:29.600 Reflexes strength bit of flexibility 02:19:30.640 --> 02:19:36.000 Yeah, flexibility, um brains like you there's strategy very deep strategy. Um 02:19:36.960 --> 02:19:41.920 Yeah, it's just it's a it's a fantastic sport. I love it good with plyometrics too 02:19:42.560 --> 02:19:48.400 It's good with fat professional movements. Um great sport. Yeah, basically the entire time you're doing it 02:19:48.400 --> 02:19:51.120 You're doing hit which is pretty cool. Um 02:19:52.320 --> 02:19:55.760 Yeah, it's great. Um any tips for people who want to pick it up as a hobby? 02:19:56.400 --> 02:20:00.800 Find a friend group basically every single time and it doesn't 02:20:01.600 --> 02:20:05.120 There's no room to be shy. I used to be too shy to ask people to play 02:20:06.800 --> 02:20:15.280 If you want a network, you can't be shy So you just have to go to places where people are playing whether it's community centers, um or like finding online groups 02:20:15.360 --> 02:20:19.120 This is something that I had to go through twice in my life once to build my group locally 02:20:19.520 --> 02:20:24.480 And then again to build a group of players in taiwan because I go there once a year and I play badminton when I go 02:20:24.960 --> 02:20:27.680 Um, so you gotta you just have to go put yourself out there 02:20:29.040 --> 02:20:31.360 If you see someone who's kind of at your level, you know 02:20:32.160 --> 02:20:35.040 Don't impose on the really strong players if you're still a beginner 02:20:35.440 --> 02:20:39.520 Like they might be nice and play with you, but you're really like messing up their groove 02:20:40.000 --> 02:20:45.680 Um, if there's a huge skill disparity, so try and find people who are like kind of close to the same level and then 02:20:47.120 --> 02:20:49.920 Get contact info try to create a regular group 02:20:50.240 --> 02:20:55.840 Go to the same place play at the same time every week So you can make it part of your routine because anything that you don't make part of your routine 02:20:56.400 --> 02:20:58.640 Is not going to help you. It's so easy 02:20:59.520 --> 02:21:04.720 To bail on a fitness program But when you have a group that will help hold you accountable 02:21:05.360 --> 02:21:09.840 It becomes so much easier and it becomes so much more enjoyable and rewarding as you guys build each other up 02:21:10.080 --> 02:21:13.920 And make each other into stronger players over time. So that would be the biggest thing is 02:21:14.640 --> 02:21:18.160 Build your rolodex. You got to do it because otherwise it's just not going to last 02:21:20.640 --> 02:21:24.240 Kyle asks how long do we have this resident of Linux for? 02:21:25.680 --> 02:21:29.120 um This bad until monday morning 02:21:29.840 --> 02:21:33.680 I called the ortho. I said, look, I need these by blocks out. I can't talk and I talk for a living 02:21:34.160 --> 02:21:40.880 um As for the train tracks, I think it's probably going to be about a year. I think the top's not too bad, but the bottom's pretty rough 02:21:43.280 --> 02:21:48.160 Question for mr. Tech Tips Y'all did a collab with delta hub for the LTT edition cap 02:21:48.320 --> 02:21:54.400 Re capio Carpio 2.0 Why not carry it on y'all store as well as theirs? 02:21:54.640 --> 02:22:00.080 Oh, it's a good question. If I had to guess I'd say it just comes down to the margin structure like they're a direct-to-consumer brand, so 02:22:01.040 --> 02:22:06.480 um Them I assume they paid us money for the co-branding opportunity 02:22:07.040 --> 02:22:09.200 So then if they also had to sell us the product 02:22:10.080 --> 02:22:18.240 At a reduced rate from retail Then they'd be giving us a disproportionate amount of the margin on the product would be my best guess, but I'm completely guessing though 02:22:19.120 --> 02:22:21.120 um 02:22:24.720 --> 02:22:28.080 First whan show message long time Floatplane member 02:22:28.640 --> 02:22:34.320 What was your first reach out to sponsor like when you first started youtube videos ncix LTT? 02:22:34.400 --> 02:22:38.800 Was it difficult or awkward? Yeah super awkward um 02:22:38.800 --> 02:22:40.800 That first ces was wild man 02:22:42.320 --> 02:22:47.760 Like I was desperately trying to get any meeting that I could people didn't really understand youtube sponsorship 02:22:48.320 --> 02:22:51.360 It was all like traditional written advertising at that time 02:22:52.880 --> 02:23:00.720 um Whether it was the right thing to do or not I heavily leveraged the contacts that I had made at ncix to try to 02:23:09.120 --> 02:23:12.640 Somebody told me Dan did that I didn't know press yours. Yeah 02:23:15.840 --> 02:23:20.080 I thought you guys noticed I noticed his I hadn't seen mine yet 02:23:20.240 --> 02:23:29.120 I Sorry, I had no clue. I wasn't trying to derail you. I just wanted to test it because I didn't even believe it at first 02:23:29.840 --> 02:23:32.640 It turns out it was true. Sorry about that. Keep going 02:23:34.880 --> 02:23:36.880 Anyway 02:23:37.920 --> 02:23:42.640 As a buyer, um, you know, I I had contacts at various tech companies 02:23:42.960 --> 02:23:50.960 But they were like in sales not marketing So I tried to kind of again it comes down to networking. I tried to build my network and just kind of 02:23:51.760 --> 02:23:55.120 Lay out like why you should sponsor us and um 02:23:55.840 --> 02:23:58.720 Like I think our first product was just those quick like pre-rolls 02:23:59.600 --> 02:24:03.440 Or what was it? No, our no our first product was just sponsoring our trip to ces at all 02:24:03.440 --> 02:24:09.360 We wouldn't have even been able to go. I didn't have that kind of money um, and so I think it was uh Corsair 02:24:10.320 --> 02:24:15.680 C gate and links is I want to say so that basically just came down to like my buddy 02:24:16.960 --> 02:24:22.640 Oh, yeah, that was weird Anyhow, can't tell that all sorry. Yeah. No, I don't think that would be best. Um 02:24:23.520 --> 02:24:26.960 But yeah, those were the main ones and what those companies all have in common 02:24:26.960 --> 02:24:35.120 Which is hilarious is like one guy brad hutchinson has worked at all of them at some point or another shout out shout out brad 02:24:35.840 --> 02:24:43.200 um Because like breaking down the barriers of bureaucracy to get someone to do something that's out of the normal is hard 02:24:43.600 --> 02:24:47.360 it's really easy for someone in marketing to just like 02:24:48.640 --> 02:24:51.120 Renew their quarterly spend with the people they already work with 02:24:51.760 --> 02:24:54.320 It's really hard to shift that bucket around 02:24:54.800 --> 02:24:58.480 Especially to something that has kpis that are measured in a completely different way 02:24:58.880 --> 02:25:03.520 And where you have to like say no one else is really doing and we have to say oh, sorry 02:25:04.000 --> 02:25:07.680 To you know, a long time partner that you've been supporting, right? 02:25:08.000 --> 02:25:12.480 Like it comes back to the whole uh, you know Intel thing for a long time or was it IBM? 02:25:12.720 --> 02:25:17.280 No one ever got fired for buying something. Who is that again? I forget was it IBM? Yeah 02:25:18.000 --> 02:25:21.840 Or it was either IBM or Intel. It's easy to do the safe thing. I think it was IBM. Yeah 02:25:22.480 --> 02:25:26.000 um IBM says charge nuclei and chat. Yeah, exactly. So like 02:25:27.040 --> 02:25:31.280 No one ever got fired for just continuing to do the ad buy that they always did that 02:25:32.160 --> 02:25:40.320 Was I guess effective enough or something? Whereas when you make a radical change. Yeah, you can get in trouble for that. So yeah, no people stuck their neck out for me 02:25:41.360 --> 02:25:48.080 I appreciate that Dear elves when you play tower fall. Do you ever play the co-op mode? 02:25:48.240 --> 02:25:53.680 You've mentioned playing tower fall a few times. So if you haven't tried co-op. Oh, glad this black pack isn't all black 02:25:53.920 --> 02:25:58.160 Yeah, I haven't I haven't actually tried co-op. I've only ever tried versus it 02:25:58.160 --> 02:26:02.640 In fact, I thought it was one of those games like uh, like nidhog where it just like doesn't even 02:26:03.120 --> 02:26:09.120 Yeah, I had no idea the co-op mode. Maybe it's new. I just looked it up. But uh, is it like a campaign or something or like what? 02:26:09.360 --> 02:26:13.200 I have no idea four-player co-op gameplay 02:26:15.760 --> 02:26:18.880 What am I looking at you like take out baddies or what? 02:26:21.760 --> 02:26:28.400 Uh, huh Looks like 2v2. Oh, it's by four-player co-op. They probably mean 2v2 02:26:30.320 --> 02:26:33.520 No This isn't co-op. What the hell 02:26:34.160 --> 02:26:37.200 Okay, well fine. Sure. Well, we'll figure it out 02:26:38.480 --> 02:26:41.360 What's not what co-op is supposed to mean? 02:26:42.720 --> 02:26:44.880 No one or two player co-op quest mode 02:26:45.840 --> 02:26:47.840 tower fall ascension 02:26:51.680 --> 02:26:59.760 Okay Nido and they say specifically a brand new one or two player co-op quest mode. I'm down 02:27:00.720 --> 02:27:04.800 Sweet. We'll have to try that sometime when we're not playing tape to tape. That's gonna be tough 02:27:05.600 --> 02:27:09.760 That'll be pretty tough right now next bike painting. I guess. Oh, I heard from the devs. Um 02:27:12.160 --> 02:27:20.080 Hold on. Let me just make sure I don't get this wrong So I complained about the interface issues with um multiple players and they were like, yeah 02:27:20.560 --> 02:27:23.360 We've never really tried more than 2v2. So that makes sense 02:27:24.800 --> 02:27:28.880 um and then um 02:27:28.880 --> 02:27:32.880 They said that it's going to be a little while before they can get that fixed probably um 02:27:33.760 --> 02:27:37.760 Oh, I don't want to commit them to anything. I'm not committing them to anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we can work around 02:27:37.840 --> 02:27:40.880 It'll be a little while but not that long. Cool. Yeah, sounds good 02:27:41.120 --> 02:27:46.000 And then I was telling them the keyboard requirement sucks. So they're gonna look into that as well 02:27:46.960 --> 02:27:53.760 Uh, we tried 5v5 for the first time ever in tape to tape, which is this uh roguelite hockey game that we've been playing 02:27:54.320 --> 02:28:00.960 um I might as well just bring it up on screen. So this is what it looks like basically it's like a 02:28:01.840 --> 02:28:04.000 like a hard fighting hard farting 02:28:04.880 --> 02:28:10.560 uh top down style hockey game like you played back in the 90s, but with no rules and um 02:28:11.520 --> 02:28:15.040 A lot of hits and drawing sticks and all kinds of wild stuff 02:28:15.520 --> 02:28:19.600 Uh ton of fun in its current form. It's still very early access and there's still 02:28:20.320 --> 02:28:22.880 There's a it's got a it's got a long way to go 02:28:23.680 --> 02:28:26.400 Especially with how ambitious they're being about the game 02:28:27.200 --> 02:28:30.720 But uh, yeah, I look at at this point. They literally could have just 02:28:31.600 --> 02:28:35.200 Done a few small polishing touches to what they originally had 02:28:35.840 --> 02:28:39.920 Fully released the game as tape to tape one and then just made tape to tape two 02:28:40.000 --> 02:28:46.240 And I don't think literally anyone would have bad an eye because it is so incredibly transformative what they're doing like 02:28:47.520 --> 02:28:56.560 What a wild Yeah Sure, it's been fun to be part of the journey regardless of what form it ends up being released in um, absolutely awesome 02:28:57.360 --> 02:29:00.720 Basically people are asking what did they change and what they changed is that this whole 02:29:01.440 --> 02:29:05.120 campaign system where you like 02:29:05.280 --> 02:29:08.960 Are a hockey player and you're this is old. Yeah 02:29:09.680 --> 02:29:18.960 Where you're a hockey player and you're like Taking hockey back from the big bad golfers or whatever this whole like campaign seems to be dead in the latest versions of early access 02:29:19.040 --> 02:29:24.720 Which like I actually really liked Yeah, yeah, and I'm not saying the new one's like worse. I don't think it is 02:29:24.720 --> 02:29:29.200 I think it's I think it's gonna be better once they fine-tune everything. It seems like they're 02:29:30.000 --> 02:29:35.200 Overall headed in a cool direction Yeah, but but this was also really good and could have easily been tape to tape one 02:29:36.240 --> 02:29:39.920 I agree with you to the point where it's it's like so substantially different that I think 02:29:40.480 --> 02:29:43.600 Similar to sieve. I would have had fun playing both. Yeah 02:29:44.240 --> 02:29:50.640 Yeah, yeah, we might have done like a tape to tape run this day and let's let's try the og version whatever the next day. Yeah 02:29:51.200 --> 02:29:55.680 anyway Earlier this week our softball night got rained out 02:29:56.160 --> 02:30:00.800 And so um, I recruited a handful of people from softball night the handful of people from elsewhere 02:30:01.120 --> 02:30:08.160 And we did The first ever in the world including by the developers. They've never actually tried it five v five 02:30:08.880 --> 02:30:11.760 Human teams so 10 player tape to tape 02:30:12.400 --> 02:30:19.760 Dude It was awesome. Oh cool. Elijah actually streamed it. There's a vod somewhere. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice 02:30:20.640 --> 02:30:26.480 Dude It was it was awesome. There's a lot of issues like the um, all right 02:30:26.720 --> 02:30:32.640 The sports teams are really poorly balanced. They're like way too fast and they're like way overpowered. They're all like ovr 90 02:30:33.200 --> 02:30:37.600 Which is oh, wow, which I mean I already feel even with the not too powerful teams 02:30:37.680 --> 02:30:43.360 The the rink is a little bit small that I find the the game is best like midway through. Yeah 02:30:44.080 --> 02:30:50.240 Agreed. Um, so there there's definitely issues one player has to play with a keyboard. We managed to find this like 02:30:50.960 --> 02:30:54.240 Joystick to keyboard like controller to keyboard mapping thing 02:30:54.560 --> 02:30:59.680 But we found all kinds of issues with just the identity of that controller not being recognized properly 02:30:59.680 --> 02:31:03.200 I mean you got 10 controllers connected to the system, which is already kind of an edge case 02:31:03.600 --> 02:31:08.240 um So it didn't really work. So Elijah went back to playing with a controller 02:31:08.640 --> 02:31:11.120 um, yeah, the menu slash selecting was bad 02:31:11.920 --> 02:31:15.760 but we like kind of We kind of figured it out. It was an absolute 02:31:16.240 --> 02:31:19.680 Blast so I I kind of wanted to try and get it going again after when so today 02:31:19.680 --> 02:31:28.240 But I don't know if we're going to be able to recruit enough people We'll certainly try. Um, the dev said though that a 3v3 is apparently the kind of the sweet spot that they found for versus anyway 02:31:28.720 --> 02:31:32.160 Um, and it's definitely worth it worth playing. It's pretty fun. Um 02:31:32.960 --> 02:31:35.760 What else did they say? Oh, yeah, I told them that um 02:31:36.320 --> 02:31:42.560 IMO checking needs to get a little easier But they could counter by making this dagger for the check or a little longer 02:31:43.120 --> 02:31:45.920 So that it kind of punishes you for checking too much it 02:31:46.480 --> 02:31:52.880 I definitely prefer the old system. I don't know. I also understand that the old system was kind of like 02:31:53.440 --> 02:31:57.600 Really op? Yeah, so there's got to be a downside to just throwing the body all the time 02:31:57.920 --> 02:32:01.920 Like I could even see them having a risk of injury checking someone else 02:32:01.920 --> 02:32:05.440 Like when you play a super physical game like you're an alex of etchkin or something like that 02:32:05.520 --> 02:32:08.160 There's a reason that players like Eric Lindross 02:32:08.640 --> 02:32:11.120 Um run into a lot of injuries in their careers 02:32:11.760 --> 02:32:16.880 Although Lindross was a bit of a special case, but just those super physical power forward type players 02:32:16.880 --> 02:32:21.120 They do tend to get injured sometimes when they are throwing the body against someone else 02:32:21.600 --> 02:32:25.920 Um, I should probably also give that feed. Oh, no, I think I already gave the feedback that injuries need to be short though 02:32:26.000 --> 02:32:30.960 Yeah, I was gonna say it's right now or wait. I think they're working on that and they're too long 02:32:31.040 --> 02:32:36.560 They're working on that. I think the impact should be low Um, but yeah, there's a there's a they're working on a lot of tweaks to the formula right now 02:32:36.560 --> 02:32:40.480 They're they're working hard. This is the first game apparently, which I think is crazy excellent rectangle 02:32:40.640 --> 02:32:48.240 Incredibly good for a first game like I'm kind of mind-bogglingly good for a first game. Um, I think the bench also needs some work 02:32:49.600 --> 02:32:55.440 There's like, yeah, they they they're cooking. They had a complete game. I know I know 02:32:57.200 --> 02:32:59.520 They're cooking put them cook. Yeah. All right. What else is going on? 02:33:00.720 --> 02:33:06.800 What is the logistics of this? Did you all find a spare parts box in the back of the shelf from the ltx? 02:33:06.960 --> 02:33:14.160 They're talking about the the mixing matches I think it's a combination of that because we do still have a bunch of like random mismatch bits left over 02:33:14.640 --> 02:33:20.320 Um, and also I think we shot some new parts so that we'd have enough inventory. Um, don't quote me on that 02:33:20.400 --> 02:33:26.800 but that's my understanding of how the mystery screwdriver came to be another element of it is that 02:33:27.680 --> 02:33:33.840 Um, discounting is a bit of a double-edged sword on the one hand You make the people who buy it with the discount extremely happy on the other hand 02:33:33.920 --> 02:33:36.800 You make the people who bought everything at full price extremely unhappy 02:33:37.120 --> 02:33:41.200 If you create a different product with a different value proposition in this case 02:33:41.760 --> 02:33:48.800 It's a product where you get a random color Then you're far less likely to upset someone who bought it for $69.99 a week ago 02:33:49.280 --> 02:33:52.880 If you have this available for $49.99 because at least they got the color that they intended 02:33:52.880 --> 02:33:57.520 So it's always a balancing act. Um, but I think it's a combination of those factors 02:33:58.240 --> 02:34:07.360 It's Hello, luke Linus and Dan Linus. I'm a father to be what are some movies tv's games that you couldn't wait to share with the kids 02:34:08.560 --> 02:34:14.000 Oh Man, I'll say this the ones that you kind of hoped that they would enjoy 02:34:16.320 --> 02:34:18.320 Put your expectations aside, um 02:34:20.240 --> 02:34:26.000 I'm just trying to think like The stuff that you enjoyed as a kid is probably not going to resonate with them like 02:34:26.560 --> 02:34:29.920 I really wanted my kids to like Final Fantasy 6 02:34:30.960 --> 02:34:36.640 But the ones that they actually Picked up on like my son played through crosscode because he saw me doing it 02:34:37.360 --> 02:34:44.480 Um, and if I'm being honest like it's a way better game than Final Fantasy 6 because it's way more fast paced and 02:34:44.960 --> 02:34:51.360 the characterization is Fewer characters, but is really good really really strong like it's almost like art 02:34:52.000 --> 02:34:54.000 A lot of the time does improve over time 02:34:56.400 --> 02:34:59.760 Yeah, so I'd say maybe 02:35:00.720 --> 02:35:04.960 Don't worry too much about it and find new things that you guys can enjoy at the same time 02:35:04.960 --> 02:35:09.760 I think those are the ones that have gone the best You know what's pretty cool though 02:35:09.760 --> 02:35:16.880 My son finally likes to play catch Oh, I wanted someone to just throw the ball around with for so long 02:35:18.000 --> 02:35:25.920 And this is even more exciting My daughters are into it because they've seen him do it and they've come to like work softball nights and stuff 02:35:26.080 --> 02:35:32.560 That's cool. They want to play catch. They can't really throw hard enough to get like a satisfying like game like just like like 02:35:34.080 --> 02:35:37.120 Throw and catch, you know the thing going sure he can he can 02:35:37.680 --> 02:35:41.280 He can even put a bit of a curve on it now. It's just fun. Nice. That's cool. Yeah, so um 02:35:41.920 --> 02:35:47.920 So that that's very satisfying for me. It's just like it's it's a weird like sensory thing, but there's like 02:35:49.440 --> 02:35:57.120 There's just something about Like a like a hardball. I don't really I don't really love throwing the softball as much as I love throwing the hardball 02:35:57.280 --> 02:36:00.720 um Like a hardball get landing right in the pocket 02:36:01.280 --> 02:36:06.160 like Oh, baseball is like one of the very few sports. I didn't play when I was a kid 02:36:06.800 --> 02:36:11.680 and I at zero points in time ever thought I would be interested in being a quarterback 02:36:12.800 --> 02:36:16.560 Never really into throwing so I don't know 02:36:16.560 --> 02:36:21.040 Feels good It's like I used to do these things called sports days in the summers 02:36:21.120 --> 02:36:24.720 Or we just go out to the field with a bunch of random like sports equipment and just do stuff 02:36:25.040 --> 02:36:28.640 Yeah, yeah, and we'd end up, you know throwing footballs back and forth or whatever doing that 02:36:28.720 --> 02:36:32.720 It's fine. It's a good like I want to be outdoors and do a thing activity 02:36:33.200 --> 02:36:41.680 I don't find catching the football nearly as satisfying There's something about the sound of the ball and the leather and just like ah, it's good. Yeah, it's good 02:36:42.240 --> 02:36:48.240 Hey Wham game. DLL question for Linus. What pool control panel did you have installed? 02:36:48.240 --> 02:36:51.360 And have you played around with any of the wi-fi features if any? 02:36:52.000 --> 02:36:57.200 I wouldn't recommend whatever I have. I don't know if it's because of them or if it's because of our 02:36:58.080 --> 02:37:05.040 unskilled installer Maybe maybe this is an opportunity for you know, someone to reach out to our to our public-facing emails 02:37:05.120 --> 02:37:11.040 If you happen to work for jandy and you want to fix my at some point. It's still a cluster. So 02:37:12.160 --> 02:37:16.480 Totally open to that I think our autofill on the hot tub still doesn't work 02:37:16.960 --> 02:37:21.600 So we just have to like go with the hose periodically and just like make sure that the pump isn't sucking air 02:37:21.680 --> 02:37:24.480 Which is kind of stupid in the year 2025. I think 02:37:27.280 --> 02:37:35.600 First world problem, obviously, but like Yeah, like topping up water like my toilet can top up water. Are you like fucking kidding me right now? 02:37:35.600 --> 02:37:44.000 Like what are we talking about? Did you have a second company come in and do a good job? Yeah, remember what happened? They did a bad job, too 02:37:44.640 --> 02:37:47.920 Okay, because I was gonna ask for a recommend. Nope. Great 02:37:50.160 --> 02:37:59.600 Great, hey Uh, will there be more lime day deals tomorrow and sunday? Will the current deals just persist as it is until monday? 02:37:59.840 --> 02:38:04.800 I actually don't know. I know that throughout last nick. I know that throughout lime day 02:38:05.360 --> 02:38:11.520 We did plan to add deal drops. I just don't know if this is the last one. Um, stay tuned 02:38:12.240 --> 02:38:17.040 Is lime day Yeah 02:38:17.600 --> 02:38:25.520 Why are AMD drivers still trash recently bought a new rx 7600 on a deal here in portugal and AMD catalyst keeps crashing 02:38:25.760 --> 02:38:32.400 Only resolved when installed the basic driver. That doesn't sound right. I literally drive AMD right now and it's mostly fine 02:38:32.480 --> 02:38:37.120 I was gonna say I've heard they've been pretty good for quite a while. Um, you may have a defective card 02:38:37.600 --> 02:38:43.360 you should definitely You should also definitely ddu and or even reformat 02:38:44.000 --> 02:38:50.960 Before you conclude that you have defective hardware But if your drivers are crashing and only resolved with a basic driver like the included Windows driver 02:38:51.280 --> 02:38:54.320 You may have bad hardware. You could have a bad power supply as well 02:38:54.720 --> 02:39:04.800 I Dlo auto mechanic here boss is floating the idea of using meta glasses for videos of the courtesy checks 02:39:05.200 --> 02:39:08.160 Any good arguments against it? Honestly, that sounds kind of smart 02:39:10.000 --> 02:39:12.000 Um 02:39:13.520 --> 02:39:19.840 Yeah, it sounds kind of smart like, um There's been so many times in my life when I wish I just like kind of logged what I was doing 02:39:20.160 --> 02:39:23.280 Like while working on like like fixing something 02:39:23.840 --> 02:39:27.840 Because like sometimes you'll just you'll like have something happen. You'll be like, oh, oh, oh, man 02:39:28.640 --> 02:39:35.440 Okay, how do it can I replicate this? No Where it's like if you're like just logging a check that you're doing on a customer's car 02:39:36.160 --> 02:39:40.320 Man, that's it's such a great tool for like showing them. Okay. Yeah, like here's where we found the problem 02:39:40.960 --> 02:39:46.560 Um I don't know. I kind of logging is fantastic in like the server and hosting world 02:39:47.280 --> 02:39:51.440 However, your boss is also basically installing a surveillance 02:39:52.480 --> 02:39:59.440 tool on you Oh, right. So any language you use or whatever like they can easily take that video file 02:40:00.000 --> 02:40:04.080 Throw it into like a what's recording an audio too. I would assume so 02:40:05.120 --> 02:40:08.800 Uh If you I would I would argue that it's a privacy 02:40:09.440 --> 02:40:16.080 Concern to record audio Like I know in some places they can't you can't so if it can just record video 02:40:16.160 --> 02:40:23.920 I think I'd be into it if it can record audio I would I would probably put my foot down if I were you that's I think where I'm at on where I'm at on it 02:40:25.600 --> 02:40:31.920 Why is the dock only available on the us site? I actually don't know that. Um, not a clue 02:40:32.480 --> 02:40:35.280 It could be down to because remember that's not our product 02:40:35.520 --> 02:40:39.040 So we don't determine like which markets it can or can't be sold into 02:40:39.440 --> 02:40:43.680 So that's a that's a Corsair product. Um, if I had to guess 02:40:44.320 --> 02:40:48.240 I'd say it has to do with a combination of either Corsair said that it's 02:40:48.720 --> 02:40:52.080 Intended for a specific market which could be done to warranty support or whatever else 02:40:52.640 --> 02:40:58.880 That could be a possibility another possibility could be that they are all at our us distribution hug 02:41:00.080 --> 02:41:03.840 What? Um, we're really working hard on getting 02:41:04.480 --> 02:41:09.600 faster shipping times around the world and one of the first steps that we've taken is having a 02:41:10.160 --> 02:41:13.280 Hub for some products in the u.s. Including that one 02:41:19.280 --> 02:41:22.640 Another guess would be that we don't have many of them. So maybe we went for 02:41:23.440 --> 02:41:26.960 Some of those at one gc and some of and and the other product at the other dc 02:41:27.360 --> 02:41:33.680 dc is distribution center not just to Columbia Um, those would be my three guesses, but I don't actually know the answer 02:41:33.920 --> 02:41:40.240 I Question for Luke. I saw you're going to open sauce. So cool. That's not a question 02:41:40.640 --> 02:41:46.480 What are you planning to talk about or show over there sending love from argentina? I think it's leisure 02:41:47.200 --> 02:41:51.840 Is it work? I don't think it's work. Is it's for sure work. Let's work about it sauce plus 02:41:54.320 --> 02:42:01.520 I don't buy it I'll keep tabs on him. I'm not getting paid over the weekend if that helps you 02:42:02.080 --> 02:42:06.560 Are you getting paid for wanshow from sauce plus your salary just f*** anyway 02:42:08.080 --> 02:42:11.680 Sauce plus check it out. Yeah scare the coyote season one. Yeah 02:42:13.520 --> 02:42:18.400 And other stuff and also building a real Gundam day four this guy's such a mad lab 02:42:21.600 --> 02:42:26.400 Yeah, those episodes you're getting them one day ahead on sauce plus. I believe is the terms 02:42:26.560 --> 02:42:30.000 Um, but yeah, I'm I'm going down there. I'm hosting 02:42:30.560 --> 02:42:33.680 Three different panels. I don't remember what they're all about. Oh 02:42:34.320 --> 02:42:40.880 Free virtual free does virtual ticket to open sauce 2025. Yeah just 550 per month build yearly 02:42:41.600 --> 02:42:49.600 Yeah shows ad-free viewing support creators directly sauce plus by the way, it's also powered by Floatplane. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool, right? 02:42:49.840 --> 02:42:54.240 Yeah, check it out. Yeah, william osman. Yeah sauce. Yeah 02:42:55.040 --> 02:43:00.400 Uh, the the one panel that I remember the topic of is during industry day 02:43:00.480 --> 02:43:04.960 So I don't think it's open to everybody, but it's if youtube disappeared tomorrow. What would happen to your business? 02:43:06.240 --> 02:43:13.920 That's why you need to like should be fun I thought is uh, I don't think I don't know if they actually really planned the fact that I do 02:43:14.320 --> 02:43:18.000 Floatplane and sauce plus for me being on the panel, but I was like, this is going to be great 02:43:20.160 --> 02:43:22.160 I am 02:43:24.400 --> 02:43:28.160 Sounds good. Yeah, so yeah, it'll be good. It's good last year. It'll be good this year 02:43:29.840 --> 02:43:35.920 Luke Uh, I teach high school programming and I'm going to teach the kids vibe coding bite me 02:43:36.800 --> 02:43:39.680 We actually have a video coming up on this that I'm very excited about 02:43:40.320 --> 02:43:44.720 I need a ladder system that I want to be elo based for badminton 02:43:45.360 --> 02:43:49.040 now I could just hire someone to make that for me 02:43:49.840 --> 02:43:56.720 But that would be a lot of work I could tell luke to give me one of his developers to do it for me 02:43:57.200 --> 02:43:59.760 But that would be crazy because they have better things to do 02:44:00.480 --> 02:44:02.960 So I came up with what I think is a brilliant idea 02:44:05.040 --> 02:44:10.800 You can't justify creating this elo system for my badminton club because it's you know, not making money yet 02:44:10.880 --> 02:44:15.280 And also, you know, we have other things to do that are more important. So I get that I get that I understand that 02:44:15.600 --> 02:44:19.360 But what if I needed a developer For a video for a video 02:44:19.360 --> 02:44:24.560 So I came up with a video And it's going to be me versus a real developer 02:44:25.600 --> 02:44:29.600 We're going to let me we're going to sick me on trying to vibe code 02:44:30.560 --> 02:44:36.080 An elo based like ranking system so that you can like input people's scores and it will like 02:44:36.480 --> 02:44:39.120 Adjust their elo rating and blah blah blah whatever 02:44:39.760 --> 02:44:42.240 I've really given a ton of thought to how this is going to work 02:44:42.800 --> 02:44:46.240 Um, and then we're going to pit me against a real developer 02:44:47.040 --> 02:44:52.880 With the expected outcome, right? Obviously, we're not going to we're not going to we're not going to like fake the results, right? 02:44:53.040 --> 02:45:00.800 But we do have a hypothesis With the expected outcome that being a real programmer is probably going to be better 02:45:01.680 --> 02:45:05.200 But that vibe coding will get me a lot further than I would get if you just like 02:45:06.080 --> 02:45:10.960 Stuck me in a in a development environment. Yeah, could you explain vibe coding for the folks at home? 02:45:11.680 --> 02:45:17.360 Uh vibe coding is asking AI to code for you. There you go 02:45:18.640 --> 02:45:24.800 So line is vibe coding Who has literally never written a functioning line of coding in his life 02:45:25.360 --> 02:45:28.000 Versus a real programmer with all the tools that they have 02:45:28.400 --> 02:45:34.080 Including the ability to use AI if they want to and there's there's effective applications like, um 02:45:34.720 --> 02:45:40.480 Emma built this tool for her old workplace. Um, that was really helpful and it was based on google sheets 02:45:40.640 --> 02:45:48.480 and she Vibe coded with an AI to make it actually happen and it's way better than what they had before so like 02:45:49.520 --> 02:45:56.320 I may be able to build something functional But part of the payoff for the video is going to be to have our real developer 02:45:57.280 --> 02:45:59.840 poke and prod at my thing and be like, um 02:46:00.560 --> 02:46:06.320 Okay, well, we've got a bug here. We've got um an edge case that you haven't accounted for here 02:46:06.400 --> 02:46:12.160 We've got a security flaw. Oh my god Like i'm expecting it to not be very good. We'll see but we'll see no idea 02:46:12.240 --> 02:46:15.120 I mean, maybe it'll be good enough and maybe that will be an interesting outcome too 02:46:16.240 --> 02:46:23.600 Either way What I really want out of it is the real product from the real developer and i'm just gonna pretend to vibe code it as best 02:46:23.680 --> 02:46:28.560 I can well i'm gonna i'm literally gonna do this i will do as best I can yeah, but i'm i'm just like have you done 02:46:29.280 --> 02:46:33.280 any of that yet interesting because 02:46:33.840 --> 02:46:38.160 Uh As much as I was a little hesitant with the teacher saying that they were gonna do that 02:46:38.640 --> 02:46:42.720 There is like things you can learn to do it better. There are skills to it 02:46:43.360 --> 02:46:47.760 Um, if it's actually a programming class, they might also just be messing with you 02:46:48.640 --> 02:46:53.520 Maybe So I mean take it as a hypothetical. Yes, they are going to do that 02:46:54.400 --> 02:47:02.240 Yeah, um I mean if it's like a small segment because they're gonna do it anyways, so if you can like work with them to 02:47:04.000 --> 02:47:09.040 Hopefully help them do it better a lot of people really use ai in in 02:47:11.360 --> 02:47:16.320 To be blunt just dumb ways, but uh, so if you can help them not that would be pretty cool 02:47:16.480 --> 02:47:25.040 I guess because again, they're gonna do it anyways Um ai's literacy is apparently really bad in canada. I heard that on the cbc 02:47:25.120 --> 02:47:30.480 So it's really bad everywhere. I think particularly bad in canada. How is that measured? I have no idea 02:47:31.440 --> 02:47:36.400 They probably asked a high Canada is not a country 02:47:37.440 --> 02:47:43.120 Let's see, uh, you're you're a you're canada jab in your uh google yourself video is pretty good 02:47:44.000 --> 02:47:47.280 I thought that was pretty funny important countries and also canada 02:47:50.080 --> 02:47:55.360 Yeah, I think we're nice enough, you know, but not particularly consequential 02:47:56.320 --> 02:48:00.400 It also depends on the scenario and the time. Yeah, there was that convention. We helped, right? 02:48:00.640 --> 02:48:06.320 Yeah Next message. Hey, you're the one, right? Nice 02:48:07.680 --> 02:48:13.520 Hey, he went a deal. Why in bigger orders do you split the packages between two separate carriers? Uh 02:48:14.880 --> 02:48:18.000 I don't know. Oh, we had some like issues for a bit 02:48:19.040 --> 02:48:21.040 So maybe that's what you're talking about 02:48:22.400 --> 02:48:27.040 Maybe perhaps Last one I've got to you today 02:48:27.360 --> 02:48:34.880 Why don't more people talk about the lack of drivers on Windows for Intel ssc or equivalent bluetooth le audio on broadcom more 02:48:35.040 --> 02:48:41.360 It can actually be a huge problem living in apartments in big cities. Okay, so um google thinks I mean Intel SSD 02:48:41.520 --> 02:48:43.840 So let's go ahead and find out what you're talking about 02:48:45.120 --> 02:48:49.680 Spread spectrum clocking. Oh Okay 02:48:49.680 --> 02:48:53.280 Like we do that for our wi-fi here in the office, I guess. Interesting. Okay 02:48:53.280 --> 02:48:58.160 I'm going to confess that I was not super familiar with this because I've not tried to make my bluetooth work 02:48:58.160 --> 02:49:02.240 Will be blown an apartment lately um 02:49:02.320 --> 02:49:06.080 Lack of drivers on Windows for it. I don't know. That's a really good question and 02:49:08.400 --> 02:49:16.640 Like I've run into Like a super congested environment very recently when we were doing natalie's amdl's mitt tech upgrade that 02:49:17.040 --> 02:49:20.480 It was like a huge problem not because necessarily everyone around her was 02:49:21.360 --> 02:49:25.680 Transmitting but because there were just so many ssid's that her wi-fi wasn't working at all 02:49:25.760 --> 02:49:29.520 No, it wasn't just the launcher like we couldn't get anything working speed test wouldn't work 02:49:30.080 --> 02:49:36.960 um That part wasn't in the video, but it is a thing that we checked. Um, I don't know. That's a really good question 02:49:37.040 --> 02:49:39.040 I guess it should be a thing 02:49:40.560 --> 02:49:49.920 Good point It's all I got. That's it. See you again next week same bad time same bad channel. Bye 02:50:12.560 --> 02:50:14.560 You