What's up, y'all? Happy lime day.
Hi.
I'm feeling great. Thanks for asking.
How's it, how's it been shooting all week? Has it been frustrating?
Oh, the week's been great. Oh, when did that happen?
Yesterday morning.
How was filming the thing? Not great.
Which one? That's the answer regardless, but which one?
It was at your place. I don't know what you're talking about.
Was there more than one at your place? Yeah. Oh.
Oh, you mean the turret? Yeah.
Challenging.
I also had to do. Did you see what I mean now?
But I don't know if it's going to be good, but I think it'll be a good video.
No. You don't think it's going to be a good video? I don't know, man.
It's a. So I think there's four videos that it's going to be in.
Oh, the turret.
Oh, you mean the yeah, there's a, well, no, not that.
I mean, the bite blocks. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
The turret, a short, a sponsor short for Sammy for like this portable monitor thing.
This one's really.
That there we go back and the worst of all, I just did a video on lossless scaling.
So that was hard to say.
Subscribe. Subscribe.
Yeah.
Suspicious. No.
Oh, man.
Yeah. So good luck, everybody on the WAN Show.
It'll be fine. Should we acknowledge it at all?
Or should we just let it be a secret for the pre-stream?
I mean, it's not exactly a secret.
It's hard to tell, though, on camera. Yeah, they, they fail.
They're not super obvious. Yeah. The bite blocks are, once you show them.
Okay. Yeah, there they are. Yeah, they can see it now. So I can't, I can't close my mouth all the way because they put these lockers so
that I don't accidentally bite off my bottom brackets.
Having had braces for an extensive period of time myself, that's definitely where
most of the problems are coming from. Yeah, but I basically was like, I called them today.
I was like, yo, they can't, that, that can't stay in. I can't.
So what, because you're talking about how they would shear the bottom ones off.
Yeah. So you just have to get them reapplied like a bunch of times?
Yeah, I told them, just like, look, I'll pay to have them put back on.
Like I don't care, but I can't have these in. I can't talk.
One warning is the, the shearing off.
I know. I've had braces. Oh, I have sheared off bottom brackets before I know.
Okay. All right. Yep. No, it's just going to be one of these.
Yeah, I hear you. I can't. I just wanted to give you the warning. That's all.
This is not compatible, compatible with me doing my job right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not good. It's, it's not good melons.
What's the warning? If you, they're tight metal in a soft, fleshy environment.
If you break it off, it could brain and not be good.
Did I say tight metal? It's not that bad. No, that was never a problem.
Weird way of describing that. Yeah, it is.
You can actually break one of the lines that it can poke through your skin.
That'd be pretty hard to do. How'd you manage to do that?
Like I've knocked brackets off, but then they just sit there. They just like are loose on the wire.
How's that? Like they weren't using the right wire, brother.
Yeah, maybe not. I don't know. Like no, honestly, though, I still have a bar behind my lower teeth.
Yeah, that's fine. That one has never had a problem.
Yeah. No, no, no, it's been there for, if you, if they, dude, those wires are crazy.
They're like magic. Like they like, they like heat, they like bend them and then they can like heat
them up and then they like lock there. Like it's like magic metal.
If dude, if you managed to break that, they did something wrong. Oh yeah.
I don't know. Maybe. Um, Linus doesn't read the merge messages.
So every word starting with S would be Dan reading it.
So it doesn't actually, um, caught him, but you should send lots of
merge messages anyway, just so I'll feel better. So you can afford to get them put back on again, like every week.
Yeah, I don't think.
Confirm, do you, do you clench your teeth at night?
I don't think so. I guess we'll find out soon enough. Yeah.
Cause I don't think they're necessarily just going to like pop off. No, no, no, it's from when you're like eating.
Yeah. When you like bite down on something and you can knock off the front ones.
Oh, okay, let's do this thing.
I want to play tape to tape after. Did you see the windsurf news?
What windsurf? What's that? I don't, I don't know.
I know surf shark. I know wind waker windsurf CEO goes to Google.
What is windsurf?
Is this AI company number 482?
Oh yeah, I don't know who cares. Cool.
Three billion dollar deal. Okay.
Yeah, of course. Sounds good.
However, people want to shove the money around. Have fun, everybody.
It's such a wacko world, man. We're like making valuable things for people is like far from the best way to.
Make money like what are we doing?
I think the best way to make money would be for me to license my Facebook marketplace feed to other people for their entertainment.
I think I would subscribe to an $800 self-serve ice cream machine.
How about this $500 rock?
One of a kind of rock, great conversation piece.
They actually put that. Wow, they actually put that realistic animatronic dinosaur.
How could you not buy it?
Oh my goodness.
How about a third of a third of a car?
Car timeshare.
Oh man. What makes it a man cave pan?
Man pan?
What? It's it's cut in half. I don't know what it's for.
He will laugh when he thinks about the frying pan he hated and we'll be glad to
see someone find a use for them. What are you talking about?
They're cut off.
Oh, they're dust pants. They're dust pants. Oh, I read it at the very end.
That's pretty cute. That's pretty cute. I have to click on this one just so that it knows to send me more crap like this.
I'm training it.
I'm training a good AI. I'm more interested in this Jurassic Park Raptor for your wall.
It's so big. It's so big.
I'm more interested in Linus's Facebook algorithm than I am starting the show.
Sorry, Dan. Wait, McDonald's.
Oh, no way. People are still selling Szechuan sauce.
Isn't that like totally expired by now? I mean, yeah, I'd hope so.
I don't technically know, but I really hope so. See three POD.
No, that's too mainstream for me. You don't know how to train a Facebook algorithm.
No, I don't. You got to click the right things.
Crotch rocket lawnmower. I think I'm thinking about, no, this is more like it.
This is what I got to click custom built rail cart.
Yeah, buddy. Oh my goodness. Can you imagine why are there like can you be a level seat belts?
Can you imagine smoking enough of the reefer to think that this is worth $5,000?
I mean, it might be a lot of custom fabrication. Hey, can I have some of what you're on?
Oh, don't send me. I'm not going to send that. Just relax.
Vintage board game class struggle. Rare.
Wow. I wonder who wins.
Yeah.
What is that? We usually don't click on it. What is that? Retail store light box sign.
Yeah, it's boring. You know you want it. Nope. He wants it.
Nope. He wants it. I don't want anything. I'll buy none of this.
You have to buy it. It's not about buying it. It's about looking at it.
Hillary.
Rare, Hillary Clinton latex. Oh, Lordy.
It looks like a mask people would wear in like a bank job.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, man. Okay. Now I got to know what this is.
I got to know what this is. What is this? What is this?
This is a picture. This is a $6,000 picture.
It's so expensive. Acrylic on board.
Is this is this a painting?
It doesn't really look like a painting. Maybe it's a painting.
That's crazy. That's crazy.
I love it. Okay. All right. I'm done. I'm done. I'm almost done.
I'll be done soon. I've always wanted to try this.
Oh, really? I've done soapbox service. That's pretty cool. Is it fun? It looks fun.
It's all right. Oh, okay. Well,
not so sad. It's looking dog. Well, I mean, I haven't.
Why is this dog so sad? Is it his gaming PC you're selling? Maybe it is.
Look how sad he is. He's so sad. It's like, no, please.
Please don't give me my gaming PC. I'll do my homework.
Okay. You like this one. You love this. You want this in your old PC?
Yeah. See, I told you I'd find something you like. I'm still not going to buy it though.
Well, no, because you expect me to buy all of your shit for you. Yep.
Kids today, man. No way. Don't scalp the screwdriver.
Oh, oh, gross, rude.
Let's shame them. We're going to shame them. Who are you?
It's going to show their actual name, which I don't want too
late now. I mean, it's Facebook. It's not like it's private.
Brand new, Boston, great condition. This is the sought after Noctua colorway.
I'll give you, I'll let you in on a little secret. If it was so sought after, it wouldn't have been a mystery
screwdriver. Oh, a lot of people sought after it, but not as many as we thought.
Right. That is how that goes. Yeah.
I mean, you can never get it exactly right.
You know, you want this, you want it?
No, you want it? No, you'd wear it. Did we, though? You wouldn't wear it.
You'd wear it. Is this, is it a sticker? No, it's a shirt.
I don't like huge logo on front shirts. I prefer shirts like this one from LTT Store.
Jesus, where the small logo is on the front and the large one
is on the back. Significantly better.
Technically, I don't know if that's the front. Oh, it is the front. Okay, fine. All right.
I'll allow it. I'll allow it. Large logo front sucks.
I was going to look something up. What was it going to look at? Oh, yeah.
What are you looking at?
Now on the back. All the back.
I went to go try to see if the Noctua colorway was on the store and I saw our Nido screwdriver landing page.
Oh, yeah. And I was wanted to check if it doesn't kind of looks bigger
than the other one.
Yeah. Yeah.
Is that what you're going to say? No. Oh, okay. What were you going to say?
Um,
never actually tried this. Oh, we need to call Trump phone support. Oh, no, they're probably closed already.
Dang it. We keep not starting it early enough. Try it now.
If it works, just start the show on the phone.
I mean, it would be kind of sick.
You throwing down a beat, man.
No worries. I'm just wondering. Yeah, I'm trying to get the trying to get the show started.
Uh, no, I was answering merch messages and I just do that
subconsciously sometimes. So do I. I was not complaining.
Didn't even realize often either. Do I same with leg shaking?
I'll get people like that. I'm going to stop like I didn't even I don't even know I was
doing in the first place.
Let's chat tomorrow, I guess.
Okay, you good, bro? Yeah, I am.
Um, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Well, oh, what? What am I supposed to see?
That's fine. That email is just going to get spammed even more. It's okay.
It already happens. We'll think they're so clever.
Okay. Um, what?
Just hold on a second. Okay.
What? Just hold on a few more seconds.
Have you seen this, right?
No, that's cool. You haven't seen this? No.
And then you click the orange thing and it like expands. That's super cool.
And then you go back and you click this thing. I like.
And then that expands. Wait, why aren't we showing them?
And there's all the different versions. Yeah. Why aren't we showing them?
We're not showing them because this didn't originally get approved to like actually be done because this was
just a tech demo. We were trying to, we were trying to do science on how
it, cause this is three, three DJS. So this is something we didn't have experience with.
So we're trying to figure out if we could use it in different ways.
So we wanted an experiment and the experiment was decided, Hey, we'll make it a practical, practical experiment and
actually do it with, um, an actual screwdriver.
Why don't we show the people? Well, I don't know. It's, uh, it's very tech demo-y right now.
Just make it full screen.
Go away. You're welcome. I can do that.
That's a tech tip. I wonder if there's any, I think there's nothing else.
You just got tech tipped. Give me one second.
Um, what was this?
Okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
I'll do that later. Okay. Okay, okay, let's do it that later. Okay, should we do this thing?
Yeah, I'm sick you know you want it you want this so bad
Well, do you want me to show this on the show? Oh Han Solo table that's sick
I actually kind of tasteful
That's actually dope I built this one-of-a-kind Star Wars Han Solo coffee table. It's on sale just in time for Christmas
How long has that been up for I mean a minute I guess it doesn't say usually it says hey, yeah, that's weird
Yeah Highly rated though highly rated on Facebook market, but it actually looks really well died by with confidence
That's not an endorsement. Yeah. I'm just I'm just me man. I'm just me man
What about a sound cannon?
So one-of-a-kind opportunity my goodness acoustic wave cannon
The heck I can also buy black PVC from Home Depot
Okay, okay, so we start the show. Do you want me to show this on the show or in the pre-show?
Yeah, I saw it on the show Okay, this is cut baby. It's it's old to be clear
Yeah, but I haven't seen it. I Swear you've seen it
Ever Cuz I thought you were the one that said no to continue in the project. No
You're drunk. This is very possible. You're like actually drunk because I I
Repitched it recently and they're like, yeah, why didn't we do this in the past? And I was like, I don't know
I don't remember someone said no, but I don't remember who said no wasn't me. Okay
No, that is not my fault at all at all. I just want to say very clearly there was a scheduled meeting
When something changed I said hey that scheduled meeting might go away and you're like what no and then within like two months
It was gone. I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about. Yes, you do
I'm gonna resume the selected now. You're a liar. The selected is resumed
My goodness
Oh
What is up everybody and welcome to the wind so we're gonna have a great show lined up for you guys this week
We will be talking about Google's AI overview apparently selling people products that in many cases are garbage and in some cases
don't even exist which is
Pretty awkward if I do say so myself in other awkward AI news. Are you depressed?
Just use AI so you can feel better
Are you are you kidding me right now? What else we got going on this week thieves are giving themselves refunds using POS terminals
That's very cool. Also some of you asked and some of us answered the Labs did a thing
there was a reddit article about if displaying
seconds in your system tray uses battery or not and And we checked it out. It's not fully conclusive because we didn't we haven't battery testing is weird. We'll talk about it later
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Don't we go through this let's jump right into our headline topic google's AI overviews are selling you at garbage
I mean we all knew that AI kind of sucked right?
Did you want me to do this? I got this. Okay. I got this. All right. I can't resist
House fresh who we've actually talked about like four or five times on wandshow now. Yeah, they're awesome
They're an air purifier review site that um, you know
I never thought I'd care this much about an air purifier review site
But they do a great job and they are fighting the good fight in the war against crappy AI
And they published an in-depth report exposing how google's AI overviews pushed misleading
overly salesy product info
Do you have something to say no, I just sorry I need to drink of water
I uh, I just started to You know, I just I just I just yeah, I'm good in their testing
They showed that AI overviews often rely on manufacturer pr product listings and sponsored reviews
They omit major criticisms and will even hallucinate fake pros and cons
They've even recommended products that simply don't exist
Independent websites including ones that google itself has promoted have seen massive traffic drop-offs to nearly 80% in some cases
Meanwhile, AI's reddit traffic or meanwhile reddits traffic from google surged
990 percent between 2023 and 2025
Here are some AI overviews
Are you okay? I'm good. I'm sorry about that
Here are some AI overview examples from the article
I'm just very into this When asked about an infamously poorly reviewed air purifier
Google's AI overview had a super salesy take on it
The molecule air mini plus is generally considered a worthwhile purchase for its unique technology and effectiveness in removing pollutants
It's particularly appealing
For those concerned What
Oh, sorry inside joke inside joke for those concerned about viruses bacteria
And other small particles that HEPA filters might miss according to fathercraft.com
While some reviewers find it expensive others find the benefits like peace of mind
And its ability to destroy pollutants outweigh the cost
The air mini offers the same filtering power as the air mini plus but without the particle filter auto protect mode and vertical sensor
mm-hmm And home kit integration says fathercraft.com
but It's not incapable of listing cons such as when specifically asked for a good reason not to buy the air purifier
So in this case it said a major drawback is its limited ability to remove particulate matter from the air
I mean that seems like a major consideration when you're buying an air purifier does it not the entire point of the entire product
Despite its marketing it has received criticism for its poor performance
With some tests showing it to be the worst purifier we've ever tested
Okay, and even if that's not a solution it often hallucinates cons
It's reliance on UV light for Disinfection which is ineffective and potentially harmful
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
This is this is wild man Housepress provides many examples in their full article which you can find on their site which is titled
Beware of the google ai salesman and its cronies and we have given you guys only a small surface sampling
A taste you might say of everything that they've delved into in their topic. So you should definitely
Dan do you want to go ahead and drop the link to the house fresh article sure into all the various chats?
You should definitely go check it out and give it a good read our discussion question on this one is
is this the lowest point In internet history for trying to research and purchase products
No But I think the reason why it's a no is really annoying
Uh, because at one time you basically couldn't But I mean like during the internet era modern history
Then I think absolutely yes Um, but like at a certain point in time there basically was no product info on on the internet
I mean one was very very little When I first started using the internet there was very little product info online. You couldn't actually buy things online
Okay, all right. This is what I'm saying. It's it's it's kind of a lame answer
So the realistic answer if we look at modern internet is that yes, this is in my opinion the worst time and in my opinion
Again to keep pumping these guys if you want to be like, you know properly armed and informed about what's happening with the
Trillions of dollars behind the things hitting your eyeballs these days. You it's it's a good read
You should like legitimately go check it out. Um, it makes you a more educated consumer. Yes, which is like
All we can really hope for at this point Yeah, so check it out share it to your friends do stuff like that. It's um
And I got a very good. It's well written well researched even with how much I know
I still find myself scrolling through the ai overview and like
If I don't stop and think wait, this is this is horse s***, right? If I don't stop and think about it
I'm like, oh, I mean it sounds plausible enough
That's the thing. That's the biggest problem
I
Think we might as well just take a short break and acknowledge the elephant in my mouth
I got braces Yeah, but that's not actually why that's not the real problem. I was I was planning to not have to say that much today
But I think there's just kind of no way that we can get around this. I mean I can do the topics. I got this
This show is so normal. Can they see it? Yeah, they can definitely see it. Okay. Yeah
so I had a few different options. There was traditional braces
Invisalign and then they had these like 3d printed braces and I was like
I don't know like 3d printed braces. That sounds kind of cool. Sounds cool. They are a little more expensive than visalign actually
So I didn't like save money But they're apparently faster and after the initial time putting them on there's apparently just like less f***ing around with like
Taking off and remounting brackets and like getting adjustments from week to week theoretically from my understanding my very basic understanding
They have these templates that they put on so that they get the bracket in exactly the right spot
So that you just Hook up all the wires and then over time they put stronger and stronger wires obviously just like you would with normal train tracks
um and it just
Rips everything around to where it's supposed to be just
You know, whatever I'm gonna need a little bit of disking because I have some crowding in my bottom teeth. That's pretty pretty rancid
um and I was just like
You know, I don't know 3d printing is cool. Yeah, I'm gonna do that one. Yeah. Yeah
So what my orso didn't tell me is that um
Because my my bottom teeth are so misaligned
It's hard to kind of see that Basically, it's like
The braces being on there now makes it actually harder. Yeah, so some of the brackets on the bottom are up so high that my top teeth
Could slice them off If I bit down too hard
So they didn't tell me that that was going to be part of this
System and if they had I probably would have gone with something else
Because as you guys may or may not have noticed I cannot make s sounds
and the reason for it is these These bite blocks behind my two front teeth on the top
That prevent me from biting down so far that it slices off the bottom brackets
There's a gap between them so that I can floss between the teeth
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I can't feel
Yeah, I was thinking I was like, I think I can make an s sound without closing my mouth, but I understand now
Yeah, well, it's my tongue I can't
I can't feel Do you want some uh tissue paper? We could jam in there
I want nothing of your help you mocked me once never mock me again or whatever the princess bride quote is
I don't I'm okay. I'm fine
I'm in I'm in I'm in some pain
I just got them on yesterday morning um So there's like the the torque and I've still had to work
So honestly, the teeth aching has never bothered me that much like I've had orthodontic work done before it's it's not
That's not the the worst part right now I didn't actually mind my braces that much when I had them the worst part for me has been that I've had to
Work the last couple of days and I literally talked for a living Yeah, and it's taking extra effort to try to enunciate in a way that anyone can actually understand
What the bloody hell it is that I'm saying it really doesn't help that the video I hosted today right before wanshow was on lossless scaling
Someone's god hates me. That's yeah, that's all time rough. I think um
So it's taken extra effort to enunciate and with the the brand new
braces on my teeth They're ripping up my gums like like more er when I have to try harder to do things
And I don't know what it is, but I think these might be sharper
Then like the regular metal brackets. I don't know. Maybe they're not maybe it's just because I'm not like used to them yet
Last time I got train tracks on I had had like an appliance already in my mouth
So I'd had a wire already so it probably toughened up the inside of my mouth a little bit before I got them on
So it's it's not really an apples to apples comparison not to mention that it was 20 years ago
Anyway Yes, syrobene is correct. The true cruelty is that the word lisp is spelled with an s
There's a bunch of stuff like that. Yeah, like asperger. Isn't that like the the fear of long words is a really long word or something?
Is it really? I think I
So, um All right. Yeah, the fear of long words is like incredibly long
nice I can't even say it
Uh It's it's this
We can share my screen. No, it's fine. Okay
Hippo, potto, monstress, quipida, alo, aliophobia or something like that's really also known as
sesquip pedalophobia The name is ironically long making it a bit of a joke for those who experience the phobia
Imagine having a fear of long words. I think we've gotten soft as a society
Dyslexic stoner 240 and float playing chat says we are not soft
I was gonna say I think we've gone soft as the the fighty is hilarious
There's no way that that's right ploda ploda says the fear of palindromes is a palindrome. No, I think it is
Abbey phobia. There's no way It can't be
Is that real? I think so Fear of palindromes can't be a real thing though. That's probably just a thing a lot of these sewn
It's a humorous unofficial term that ironically it refers to the fear of words phrases or numbers that read the same backward and forward
That's not real We live in a society
Somebody said say narcissist. I won't
I'll have to later I'll explain later
I find that disrespectful because I stole it from you. I stole your opportunity
You bastard
Bath turd, sorry, I don't understand. I mean you did a caddy sack and it was you
Okay, next topic let's get on to our next topic here. What do you want to talk about?
Are you depressed Just use ai to feel better
Last week Microsoft laid off about 9 000 employees across several departments
With a huge reason for this reduction coming back to the classic
Ai it seems like whether it's jobs being lost to ai or
It's um, you know employees managing to work with it more efficiently or them just wanting to make more investments in hardware
whatever it is CEO Satya Nadella said that about 20 to 30 of the company's code
It's currently being generated by ai and there's no plan to slow down on investing billions into it
um, and I guess that comes at the cost of some of the humans that work there, which uh is um
Honestly kind of old news at this point. Yeah, what's new this week
Is that matt turnbull and executive producer an executive producer at xbox game studio publishing stated on linkedin that
While this is a challenging time for many people there is a solution
Using ai to help get over it
This is in direct response to people losing their jobs
He included is a horrifying place we'll get to that including examples in his post of what you could ask an ai like
I'm struggling with imposter syndrome after being laid off
Can you help me reframe this experience in a way that reminds me what i'm good at
He then ended his message with No ai tool is a replacement for your voice or your lived experience
But at a time when mental energy is scarce these tools can help you get unstuck faster calmer and with more clarity
There were even more examples of ideas or prompts to give ai tools, but the post was deleted due to how it was received
Discussion question
While the time okay, actually, you know first discussion question linkedin as a social media platform
Like the worst thing in the world i hate it so much i'm gonna go on my linkedin if it was like basically just a
professional resume platform that you could message people on
Sure, but honestly the fact that there's public posts at all i find really weird and i often find them to be
So incredibly like corporate self-serving and so incredibly fake
I just
I don't Don't like it
Sammy says linkedin is just people self-glazing and other people approving yourself glaze
So it's a circle of jerk
A jerk in a circle but every one of the circle is also at least partially wearing suits
That's got to be a genre probably
Somebody's into it somebody somewhere
um
Okay, so that wasn't much of a discussion topic. That's fine. We can move on from that
While the timing of this post couldn't have been any worse ignoring that
Can you see yourself ever turning to an ai chatbot for assistance?
Like therapeutic because i i use just chatbots for assistance all the time therapeutic assistance
No, i don't think so So i'm gonna prevent i'm gonna prevent i'm gonna present a contrarian take here
I've both my own and someone else's Elijah put in here
To be honest i have a hundred percent used ai messaging tools to help through temporary tough times
I don't think they're a replacement for real therapy or whatever the person might actually need
But if someone can identify that what they're going through is very temporary needs a quick ranting buddy
I could totally see this being a real thing people would do to be clear. There's no endorsement there
but Seeing that this could be a thing that people would do
I think is valuable for us to at least have a a broader perspective
Even if it's not something that we would do personally i'm not saying you shouldn't
and what i will say Is that that short period of time that i spent on that uh social media platform that was all
ai participants Honestly it felt healthier than regular social media. Oh, I mean that's uh
That bar is in the core of the earth sure, but it's not low. It has no factor
I mean basically there was it was nothing but positive energy
And social media is nothing but negative energy
I wouldn't say it's nothing but depends on the category of social media, but it is very problematic energy wise
I think we can we can agree on that arguable to say that even when it's positive
It's positive in a way that drives you to continue using it which will inevitably push you towards a negative
You could make that argument
Anyways, um
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I can't you're saying slime day
I'm not i'm not aware of what slime day is stop. Is it like a stop nickel?
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Uh, we are also introducing a brand new colorway in olive since y'all sold the sky blue version out so quick
um Oh arty's writing in the dock. You should probably explain the story. So, um, it's a hot dog
Right and in the mustard. Well, the front isn't anything
And he holds a little knife is cute and then on the back the mustard says i'll kill you
On the super cute hot dog Did you notice that I didn't actually see that part. I really like the shirt. It says i'll kill you
Oh written on the hot dog. So the reference the reference is I I have pushed for many years to keep our shirts at $20
So it was only recently with uh tariffs on
The ones that going into the us that pushed them like making it impossible for us to keep them at 20 us dollars
Without losing our shirts. Ha ha get it. Um
Anyway, we're bringing it back no matter the cost and the reference here is
That the cosco founder told the then ceo of the hot dog in the cosco food court
If you change the price Of the hot dog from a dollar 50 for a hot dog and a soda which like today is
insane insane He said i'll f***ing kill you
Um And so this shirt it's 20 bucks. It's lime day. It's an i'll kill you hot dog and it's adorable
I Think it's great. I think it's great too. I think the team did an absolutely
bang up job of uh of putting together this shirt. I think uh
We really we really went we really went for extra points by printing it on both sides for our cheapest shirt that cost more by the way
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We are giving you guys Our best deal yet only 10 us dollars on the us site and 14 canadian dollars on the global site
So that's about the same plus you get 30 off individual mcm component packs
So you can build off of that starter kit nice, but
um Lime day
Is scheduled to end on monday. So make sure you shop at these discounted prices while you still can at LMG.gg
Slash lime. It's also a great time for you guys to leave a merch message
I hate that we call them that Merch message
I got this Dan, so we show the people how they work All you got to do is add an item to your card on lccstore.com
Whenever we're alive, you will see a little box pop up to leave a merch message
We'll go to producer Dan who will reply to it or who will pop it up on the bottom a little something like
There we go like that or who might even curate it for me and loop to respond to Dan
Do you want to show the people how a merch message works?
Sure, let's uh, let's start with a normal one. How about that?
Love the show never been around during a livestream for the group. What has been the most simple yet stressful thing you've ever had to do for a sponsor
Oh, wow Simple yet stressful. I feel like you did that on purpose. No, the rest of them are on purpose. This is an easier one
You don't you don't technically you don't have to read the message technically Dan has to read the message
You just have to not repeat it back to them Oh darn
Looks right. Yeah I mean, no
That doesn't work. Um Simply I mean
I think some of the most stressful ones have been the ones where there have been like weather dependent and there's a huge like time crunch
um Like I seem to recall there was one that we had to do
I mean, you know what sure let's go way back to the beginning when we were still working out of the house
Do you remember that shoot for a patriot for their like, um
Man, it was it was it like a battery bank or something like that where we went out in the woods near my house
And we had to get it done that day But it was raining But then we like sought under enough tree coverage that like it was kind of okay
But then it wasn't okay because when we got back to the house the camera wouldn't turn on anymore because it got water on it
And then I had to kind of disassemble the camera partially and then put it next to I used a GPU exhaust
That could possibly generate heat and just like tried to dry it out overnight
I thought it was more than just I know the GPU exhaust was no I think I was I think I was running fur mark on like a 480 or something. No, I remember that
But I thought we also had like other heat generating things just in that. I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know but um too long
But yeah, I remember that but it dried out and it worked the next day And that camera like got us through the first year and a half of the company carried us for a long time
Yeah, fs 700. Let's go boys. I mean it was a simple thing get the shoot done
But it ended up almost killing our camera. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say that counts
My example is probably not fair But going on a hike is simple on the surface
Sir yeah, Highlander was rough
And we had sponsors for it. So there we did ASUS even came with us
Yeah, uh, yeah nix at Intel now. I think but he was he was with ASUS at the time. Yeah
Okay, we are on to
Supposed to do a couple merge messages Oh, no, we're not. Do you have another announcement? I don't know how things work, dude. Any either
Uh, we're technically already out of order. I think
So I don't know how much it matters. Nice. We could do this flow plane announcement. Sure. Fine. Just do it
Who is Linus when the cameras are off?
Over the last two weeks, we've released content to show the day-to-day behind the life of Linus Gabriel Thebathden
Uh, just circle the video
That was too fun, um, okay
Hey What are these okay, hold on hold on hold on how does the dynamic of taren and Linus actually work
Check out the over 40 minute sit-down video with them together and but what about LMG staff?
Um Do they remember their first reaction with Linus? He some of the staff's first reaction when he was meeting when they were meeting mr. Tech tips and then here
I'll show some of them. So okay. Linus sits down with the LMG ceo. Uh, that's been a pretty uh successful
exclusive Oh, yeah, okay. No, that was that was recent
I love how you started off by really giving him the confidence he needs to like
Show up on camera by telling him that he was terrible on camera and he is still terrible on camera
Did I that that sounds like a thing?
Here's Yeah, this this is pretty much it
Linus reacts to LMG members share their first meeting with Linus. That's was another popular one. I watched that whole thing. That was a banger
Uh, we have Linus takes a psychopathy quiz
The first comment, I don't know if it's the talk but the first comment is just yeah
And finally I spent the day with Linus in taiwan
Uh, wow, this one's uh, this one's newer. So it doesn't have as many views yet. Still brewing. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, good stuff. Um, yeah, that was during confutex. Sammy did like uh, like a day following me around and documenting it for Floatplane. Yeah, yeah
Okay, what else are we supposed to talk about? Finally we did
Never mind. Yeah, I go to LMG.gg slash Floatplane or check out our youtube membership today
Uh, should we talk about the thing Labs did? Oh, we're apparently also going to be having me take a narcissism quiz. Oh nice
And we're going to be doing part two of your first interactions including Colton and Yvonne
Coltons, I know is terrible
I did not make a great first impression on Colton
He knows I'm kind of surprised we're even doing that
I thought that was one of those stories that just Goes out back and dies. I didn't think that was uh
Something that would return but but okay
All right sounds good Put that back on camera again
Okay, um, what are we what are we supposed to be doing right now? Oh, right the merge messages
Oh, yeah, there's uh, there's a couple coming in. Sorry, uh, let's see Linus. Could you please say she sells sea sails by the sea shore?
Seriously with your retainer. That's your merge message. She sells seashells by the seashore. They spent $287. Say the line Bart
She sells seashell she sells she sells she
Shut up She sells seashells by the seashore. Oh, nicely done. That was pretty good. I made it
Good job. Good job. You got there sophisticated. Sebastian serves sublime sushi sideways kidding me. That's another one. Is this a new one? Yes
They didn't spend enough Ah, I don't think there's technically a line for that. All right, luke. You're doing sophisticated. Sebastian serves sublime sushi sideways
That was that was pretty good. That was pretty good. That was a little easier to say. I understood every word clearly. All right
Don't make a habit of setting those in you're not all gonna get curated. All right moving on
I'm looking at some of the other ones you've curated you bastard
Those ones you don't have to like you bastard
All right, what else are we talking about today luke? You want to do one?
Sure, uh, we can do this Labs one. Uh, we could do maybe both of the Labs ones if you want
Let's do it. So Labs has an article. Uh, we saw a reddit post on the r slash line is tech tips subreddit
Uh, that wasn't people talking about creator warehouse and we were curious
Um, and we conducted some testing and gathered one round of data
No concrete results yet since battery testing takes a long time
But we wanted to kind of give people a bit of a
A sneak peek into into this because we were called upon can LTT test this claim
So we were like, yeah, we can look into it. We are going to are you gonna say the claim?
Yeah, the claim was that uh, showing the seconds in your, uh,
Taskbar would system tray clock use more. Yeah, you can't see that from here. Can you?
No, I can't I just wasn't looking at it. When are you gonna get your glasses? No, I can read that just fine. I just wasn't looking at
Okay But yeah, having seconds there, uh, does that reduce your battery life? So we poked into it. Um, there
We have the article up now. It's does showing seconds in the system tray actually use more power
We lay out the claim we talked about how we tested it and we show the results and the results so far
So far are yes Really by how much so the red bar is seconds hidden the blue bar is seconds displayed
Uh, and this is the duration of battery life per minute on these three different computers
We try to get computers that had does this talk about it really much here, but we tried to use like a range of different
Yes, so we have like Like uh, like an x86 and we have an ARM and we also have like a high performance laptop and more of a like battery life optimized laptop
Yes, um, and in each case on three tests, um, which and like there's little there's little flags
Data is not comparable between devices stuff like that. Also, we try to make it pretty clear at the beginning
Like this is not conclusive. This is like one test per thing. This is not enough
But we want it to like show as we were working
So we're going to update this post later as we get more data
That's super cool. We're also this is just uh, like it says on the chart displaying desktop. That's it
Yeah, however, how many other little things are like this?
We are potentially going to look into that We're gonna see if there's enough and if there's enough we'll we'll probably look into it
But battery testing takes forever and there's actually a very high amount of variance, right?
So if yeah, all it takes is something like hitting an update server or something and just like
Oh Windows defender just decided to go ham randomly or whatever
Like I had to restart this computer when I sat down and the fans were just kicked on like a hundred percent for
15 minutes. Yep. I have no idea what it was doing, but he's doing something
AI Who knows so it's it's it's not conclusive yet. So far all the testing has shown
um That yeah, it does help I know that and it's not in here yet because we want to keep doing more but we have ran
Lucas was telling me because he's setting this up that we have ran one laptop where we did video playback instead of just showing the desktop
And it actually did the opposite But it did the opposite
To a very small degree where it's probably within margin of error, right?
And if I remember correctly his theory was that just if you're playing a video There's just so much going on that it effectively doesn't really make a difference
And it's just a margin of error problem But that brings even more of a light onto. Hey battery testing is hard and there's a lot of variance
When it's not a device that does like exactly one thing at all points in time
Yeah, so that that was cool. This is cool. I think this is sweet. We want to try to be able to do more of this type of stuff
Um So thank you for the the the question on reddit and hopefully this is an interesting adder to the conversation
And we hope to keep updating it more in the future
This is also a way for us to just like kind of play around and get more experience doing things like battery testing
um Because battery testing is weird. So
Yeah, anyways, uh, there's also another thing that I wanted to kind of show off
This was actually built quite some time ago
um and then for some reason
we Didn't expand upon it. I think we didn't have the time at the time or something
I thought I thought I've literally never seen this. I thought line has killed this. I've never seen it before in my life
It's very likely I did because we didn't have the time to like actually fully see it through at the time
But check this out. This is awesome. Dan Siegel made this we were we were trying to play around
With learning Dan Siegel more like Dan Eagle. Yeah, this is this is really sick
We were trying to play around with way more op than Siegel. They just steal french fries
I like told him I was going to show this off and now he's going to open with you making fun of his last name
I'm not making fun of his last name His last name isn't even the bird
I know you should know how to spell his name yours manager. Oh my goodness. That's pathetic
I I bet you like half this company can't say my last name and that's okay
That's fine. It took me until like grade three to be able to spell it. I don't expect anyone else to figure it out. It's okay. Um
What was I gonna say? Yeah, so this is this is cool. This is fine You can you can go to the different modes. You can be like I want to see the Noctua and then it like totally changes what it looks like
I want to see the retro Oh, oh, yeah, okay. Uh, it might be a little bit too on the nose. This was a
internal thing originally A solid color you can see all the different colors change the background build your own
And then you can change the Different thingamajigs. There are some problems. You'll see the cap. Nice. Um, but again, this is a tech demo
So whatever, um, I think I have that combo at home
Oh the one that I set up literally that exact combo one of my kids made it I think
Yeah, yeah, um, you can also do this Are you looking are you looking? Oh, yeah, I'm looking see the little orange ball. Yeah
What? The ratchet is based on megapros long-standing and reliable design
And then you can go back. That's so cool about this one. There's like
Our bit storage is in collaboration with mega
Yeah, so this came back up into conversation because
Dan mentioned like hey, you guys have the transparent one now It would be fun to do an experiment like trying to mess around with
3d transparencies and stuff like that
So that's super cool. I don't know. I don't know what we would do with it
Um, but if we could if we could have like a product select. Oh, no
Well, I didn't why would it
Whatever Now some of you have looked at that and gone. Oh, well, then it'll definitely be it's definitely going to be like, uh, like, uh
You're going to do customizable screwdrivers, right?
And the answer is we've always aspired to it ever since we did that thing at ltx where you could build your own screwdriver
That was always the goal, but we've never um
We've never been able to figure out the logistics of stocking all of the individual pieces and
Being able to guarantee with any kind of certainty that they're not going to be like out of stock all the time
and also the um, the way that it would slow down orders
If we had to like put the screwdriver together before we could ship it, especially during high volume times like limeday
so It's designed with like a build your own
Because it's a cool internal tech demo, but we haven't figured out the actual like boots on the ground
logistics of Bringing that to life in a real actual product. So
for now The versions of the screwdriver we have on the site, those are what we have
And we do still aspire to do like a customize your own in any color scheme you want
Project at some point, but it is not currently on any kind of real roadmap
Yeah, I know I know it'll sell well I can tell you right now though. It will not be the same price as the pre-done ones
Like we will have to carry so much more stock of just like random not assembled screwdriver bits
Then we would normally have to do now and the additional touch of like
Putting them together on our side versus like doing it on mass
Which is like buckets of parts like having to go like pick
Each of the individual ones that go together like the logistics of it are kind of a nightmare
So it would probably be at least another 10 bucks probably more like 15 or 20
so Make of that what you will that's just the way it is. Sorry
We also have some semblance of pricing stuff on the beta
And then I don't remember If this is public or not yet, I don't think so
So I'm going to go play around with it first and check before I announce it. Oh, yeah
I mean, I'm what could go wrong You're just gonna you're just gonna share my page again. You're just gonna do that. You're just gonna wait
I'm waiting. I'm waiting Let's see
Ah, yes. Okay. So it's still in the beta branch, but So I can for your screen or no
You can but it doesn't so so eventually we're gonna have it so that like, you know, you're on the you're on the website
You go, I want to look at graphics cards. You had a couple graphics cards to your comparison baller
Sorry, what do you want to look at graphics cards? You must be rich. Oh, yeah fair enough
Uh, then you go to your comparison pin. You do the veto. Do you need a trigger, baby?
Yeah Hey, that's a nice dpu
You want to have some fun? My goodness
I hear you're uh, you're wealthy enough to do AI inference. We should hang out
Um, but yeah in this area There will be an edit price button and then you can put in your own price and it'll show some comparisons and stuff
um Yeah, so that's that's that's coming. I don't know exactly when but it's uh
It's coming. There's cool stuff going on. Cool. Sorry loop-laster nair. Yeah, thanks
Um
I think I've told you this before any anytime anyone's like I can tell they're taking down my information
I need to give them my my last name. I'll I'll say it and immediately start spelling it out. Oh, yeah
I have to I don't try to really yeah, no one can spell Sebastian
They always spell it with an e Oh
That makes sense. Yeah, so I'll be like line is Sebastian s e b a s t i a n and I like
And they'll still do it with me sometimes It's like, why did I bother to say these word noises out of my mouth hole?
Did you ever have your your name wrong on like sports jerseys?
You assume that I had a sports jersey Not all of us were you know
Athletes you didn't play anything. I mean not at a high enough level to like needed my name on the back of the jersey
Oh, I think that's like little kid jerseys just are like a jersey
Huh
Our lived experiences are quite different sir. All right, they're right. Have you seen my size?
There's sports you could play when you're small. I could be the coxswain. You could have played rugby
Uh, yeah, I don't want to get I don't want to get hurt and it was cold outside
They did actually ask me if I wanted to be on the rugby team when I was in like grade eight or nine
Yeah, you probably actually would have been great because you're fast and you could have played hooker
Yeah, which is that's literally I still remember jamie mckinley if you're out there. You're kind of a f***ing asshole, but
Um, or maybe you're not anymore, but you were when you were a teenager
Um, but the one nice thing that he ever said to me. I think was he told me I should try out for the rugby team
And then I didn't and then I think we like barely ever spoke again. Yeah, because he was kind of a rugby guy
I think you would have actually legitimately been really good at that though
Yeah, thanks anyways
Uh, speaking of graphics cards and being a baller the NVIDIA rtx 50 50 is a thing
NVIDIA has announced the rtx 50 50, but where are the reviews?
Well, it turns out NVIDIA just doesn't feel like ceding GPU's to review outlets
I mean, they're just gonna crap on them anyway. So instead they just quietly launched the card with no review embargo and
Said coming second half of july It's 250 msrp, which is the same price as the rtx 30 50 that it seems to be replacing
And I guess that's good because it has almost the exact same specs
25 60 cuda cores 8 gigs of GDDR 6 not 6x
A 128 bit memory bus and the biggest difference is the clock speed going from 1.55 base to 2.31
And of course it's got lots of ai
And you just have to you found a sound that you can make
We will of course be publishing results tape to tape tonight and you're gonna be saying shoot
Sorry, I just said Ah
You have to be a forward so that's so that you're asking for passes all the time
All right, sorry keep going. We're not sorry
Oh man, okay We will be publishing results on LTT Labs once we have a card tested and we will also have a youtube video
But until then there will be almost no third-party reviews while these cards are up for sale
Meaning people will not have solid data to assess the value of these cards
Yeah, so This is pretty crappy
Our discussion question is do you ever get tired of trying to be a voice for change in this space?
Since it feels like it's for nothing because absolutely nothing is changing at the end of the day
I think that there really is I mean I've talked about this so many times in the past
I think there's this mistaken perception
For a lot of the viewers because they feel so much connection with the publications and the video creators that they engage with
There's this perception that we have this like this power in the industry or something like that, but
At the end of the day you got to understand that a lot of the
the consequential change that you're observing due to
You know any video that we might make or one of our fellow creators might make or an article that gets published
is because of the actual consequences of that
Thing not because of us saying it if that makes sense
So if the company ultimately agrees like if a product needs to be recalled due to a safety issue or whatever then that will get some kind of action
But if the company doesn't agree because they just think oh, sorry what they're saying
It's like too expensive, but we're making lots of money and we're selling lots of them. So who cares?
Then they just completely ignore us and that's the way it's always been and the way that it's always going to be
And so yeah, it Yeah, it does get it does get tiring, but I think the most tiring part is I think
The weight of the expectation from other people like I remember particularly during the GPU pocalypse
During covid we took a ton of flak for not taking a stand against the higher pricing and it's like
I mean we said it's too expensive
What else can we possibly say nothing more, right?
And you know more recently NVIDIA took yet another step towards general hostility toward their customers and especially the press
and we refused to review one of their recent cards, but
You know at the end of the day we can only
We can only um Hold out for so long because our entire job is making sure that the people who want to know can get educated on the value of these products
So ultimately we're just going to have to go out and buy one and we're just going to have to make the review anyway
um And it I don't know man. It just kind of is what it is. There were four trillion dollars
You know and we're such a tiny segment and I don't mean Linus media group. I mean gaming
Yeah, they don't even do I don't think they care at all and then the sub
section Of gamers who actually watch reviews on the cards that they buy enthusiasts
It's like we're getting small like that's the thing right with the 50 50
What percentage of people buying that card do you think are shopping for that card?
Because if you're shopping for that card, you're buying like an arc b580 or whatever like you're an educated consumer
You're not you're not going out and buying an add-in beef
Excuse me, um and add an rcx 50 50 if they are if they even do look it up basically at all
They're probably just going to google it get an ai summary. Yeah move on
And and they're probably just buying based on the overall brand like oh, yeah, no, I know g-force is good
I have 250 dollars or realistically 280 or 290 or whatever by the time it actually makes it to a retail shelf
So i'm going to get the g-force that fits my price point. I think a lot of enthusiasts don't
Have never worked retail. I have worked retail
people don't come in with like
The concept of FPS per dollar
They come in with how many dollars do I have? And getting the most for it. So in a way, it's like it's like the inverse. It's like
How many FPS can I get for my dollar as opposed to how many FPS do I want and how many dollars do I need to spend if that makes sense?
So At the end of the day, they're just going to walk out with the one that they can afford from the brand that they trust
And NVIDIA's install base is so
So strong and so deep and the products
Okay, we can talk about we can talk about FPS per dollar and and we can talk about ai features and all that
Maybe they're not the best value, you know in this particular game or whatever, but you can't
Mostly look at the product and go. Oh, yeah, historically people have had such bad experiences with NVIDIA cards
They're probably desperate to get off They've had some issues with the 50 series launch for sure
but prior Like if you if you still had a a gtx 1080
In your rig right now or a 1060 or whatever Would you be going like, oh, yeah, I like hate NVIDIA and I want to use something else? No
You would only get that per you would only Make that mindset shift if you were like
Watching the coverage as NVIDIA has enshrified over the generations and like
Gotten to be less compelling of a value compared to their competitors It's not like the product in your in your computer that to their credit
They've supported for a very long time with drivers and software. Yeah, absolutely. It's not like
You hate that So I understand why people just come into the store with their money with their budget for their new GPU
And they just buy whatever it is and if NVIDIA can sell 30 class silicon for 50 60 class prices these days
They're gonna do it
But with more ai so, yeah, it's yeah, it's frustrating. I don't know how to
Deal with it, you know, we're gonna we're gonna keep doing what we do
We're gonna keep testing them. Um This was this was linked in full plane chat and I'm pretty sure most people here have seen it, but
What am I looking at revenue? Oh, yeah, here we go gaming gaming. Wow
Wow Literally like
Automotive is making up ground Which was like nothing not that long ago networking is a bigger business for NVIDIA than gaming
And do you think do you think gaming includes switch?
Oh Maybe mind you this is fiscal year
Uh, probably switch wouldn't be here yet. Oh, maybe it would. Yeah, maybe. Oh, yeah, maybe it would
Oh, wow, that's unfortunate. They would have sold the components for switch two already. That's very unfortunate
Wow Bring cost rnd
Huh, huh gaming makes less than the total rnd budget these days
That's wild. Yeah, it makes less than taxes. That's a well. No not quite but basically the same
Yeah Just go here 25 72.96
Or 0.9
This is wild 72.9 billion billion with a b
That's wild man
Staggering yeah, it's pretty nuts
Pretty nuts Um, I believe cost of revenue is cogs in this case. Um, sorry. Can you bring that back up? Uh, it's going. Okay. Give me a second
Nice Nice, I didn't know you could do that multiple times. Cool. Very nice. It also does Windows
So if you close the window, it'll open the whole window
Yeah, yeah cost of cost of revenue is cogs cost of goods sold. So that's the uh
That's their that's their gross margins on top of it Of course that's gross margins is not like gross profit is not real profit
You have operating costs see rnd and you have taxes to pay and everything but like
Damn, that's some nice net profit numbers This is like after tax and I wouldn't even I wouldn't even consider that like tax is just what you pay for like money
You made so the actual profit here is 81 and a half billion dollars on 130 billion dollars of revenue
That is wild
Wow I can tell you right now
We ain't doing NVIDIA numbers And like we aren't even
The profitability is crazy I'm trying to think if we ever did I don't think so
Even when we didn't have like physical goods even when we were selling purely digital goods and advertising
I don't think we were ever that high And we were a much much smaller company, of course
Yes
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All right, tell me this would you feel ripped off as a sponsor if I did your read in that voice?
I think people are gonna pay more attention to it to hear you say it wrong. Oh my god
Honestly, I think so as well. I was doing my best as a sponsor. You want people to be
Lasered in on the content, right? I guess so next week we need to make the list for worse
No, by next week it will be mostly fixed
I I'm going in on Monday and I'm having them rip these pipe blocks out because I can't do this
I can't I can't I can't feel are they like cemented in place or what's the oh, yeah, it's gonna be unpleasant
Yeah I'm I'm a little unhappy right now. Yeah
I think you have a pretty good reason to be well like to be clear. I'm not mad at anyone other than myself for not sort of
Um, I thought they didn't tell you at a time Well, no the ortho didn't tell me that they were going to put the bite blocks in
But I probably should have said something right when I realized what they were doing because I I don't know while you're being
Okay, so I did tell them That I'm talk for a living and that's a factor
But I told them that two and a half years ago when I first got a quote
So like yeah, they didn't remember that because they told me they didn't want to do it until I got my top wisdom teeth out
Okay And then and then I dragged ass on that and I finally did it and now I came back
I'm like, okay. I'm ready for braces now and they're like, oh, it's been a while So like re-scanned everything and I probably didn't mention it again
Bite block is this It keeps me from closing my mouth all the way. Do you have those little like rubber circle things? Uh-huh. They're clear
Should let what should get uh D ran should
Should pay to get you to put different color combinations in or something. I think clear is a pretty good choice
I mean the whole reason they're white is to let they're like not that noticeable see
yeah But it's like pretty funny if they're noticeable
Oh, yeah, that's a good point. They're just an ad for the transparent screwdriver
Boom got him. That wasn't even me
Let's go Next topic. No, see some rich messages. Okay
And they won't be any more of that Linus. I'm sorry. Hey, I'm sorry
You're not sorry at all. Look at you. Sorry. That's not the face of a man who's sorry. Look at him. I won't apologize. He can't even pretend
Hey ldl, I just started my motorcycle course and on my first run of the road. I crashed
I'm fine. It was my first gear only
But uh, did you ever crash while riding? So how bad was it? Uh, yeah, I've actually dropped my bro drop my bike
Um Kind of think have I
Dropped my bike more than once like I've I've dropped my bike stationary at least once because um
How does this end up happening to me so often? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? I I am maintenance averse sometimes
um, and so I've had some times
I've had a couple of instances Where I've allowed my stupid bike battery to die over the winter because I didn't buy a battery tender
And I would like forget to charge it up once in a while over the winter
So I like killed like two motorcycle batteries before I just bought myself a stupid battery tender
Anyway, long story short. I've had instances where
Um, my bike was the only vehicle at home and I needed to go somewhere and I had to start it with a dead battery
And you can do that, but it sucks um, so what you do is you
Go to a hill and then you um, oh
Yeah, so you push it And then you hop on it and then you try to get enough speed and then you put it in gear and you pop the clutch and
Like a standard car like you can you can jump jump start it like that. Um, so
I had this one time So the problem with that is that on my street where I used to live my street was flat
And then there was a hill coming from it
So my best shot to start the bike was on the hill
But if I didn't get it It was game over because I'd have to come back up the hill and it was quite steep
So I what I would usually try to do is do a running start on my flat street
And try to get it and there was this one time I tried like half a dozen times
Um, and I think I I think like just in the maneuvering of the bike
I probably like like dropped it a bit But like but like kind of like caught it like got my like hip under it or something like it didn't
Like it didn't get scratched The time that I broke off my frame slider
Was on do you know that bridge in like
Poco That's wooden. Yes. He knows the one
So this was shortly after my um
This was shortly after I did my course actually and one of the things that they teach you if you do a riding course
Or if you you know read about motorcycle riding at all I guess is um
How to use your brakes because you got your front braking you got your back brake so the front brake has much more braking power because
You can preload it a little bit which shifts the weight of the bike forward
and then you can really squeeze and Um, it gets more traction with the road because you've got more weight on it, right?
However The front brake does come with the drawback that if it locks up
Um, you have no steering at all and you will just
Go over So the back brake can be the safer one if you don't want to lose traction
Anyway, I was like, ah I mean using the front brake can't be like that bad, right?
I'm just gonna experiment. So I was actually in traffic
on that bridge I was going like
Like eight kilometers an hour like at the speed of like a brisk walk and I was like, well
What if I just gave it a little squeak?
Immediately on the ground because it was it was raining. So wooden bridge in the rain
I was like, I wonder how bad it will
So, um I didn't hit the car in front of me when I slid
But the car behind me hit my uh, the tail of my bike, which is why my like license plate holder is broken
And then my frame slider broke off So nothing dangerous. I was wearing my gear
I was fine. Everyone was fine I think I had to give the guy a couple bucks to like patch up his fender or something
He didn't take it through icbc though. So it didn't affect my insurance premiums
Wait, so you fell off your bike and he hit you and you paid? Oh, it's a hundred percent my fault
Dude, I stopped for no fucking reason whatsoever
Yeah, you're still supposed to have a stopping distance. I was like right in front. Yeah, it
It was my fault. Did he expect you to pay him? No, okay, then that's fine. It was
I can't respect you being like I'm gonna own this here you go. It was 100 percent. If you were like, bro, you owe me then
No, it was my fault. Okay. Yeah, sounds good
um In response to you usa's question
I have to admit I was not wearing my seatbelt on the motorcycle
So that was The other time in my life
That I have been improperly buckled And for that I am sorry, you know
I think it goes deeper than that
I think you haven't been buckled many times on your motorcycle. I think you also haven't been buckled. I'll never admit it
I think you also haven't been buckled on buses. I'll never admit it
We're gonna have to deal with this at some point
But it is not this day
Dan hit me sure next up Linus each week you close by saying same bad time same bad channel
Yet every week the show is late and starts at different times. How do you live with the weight of your lies?
That's why I call it a bad time
Yeah Because the time is wrong and bad and it's the same every week
and also just the bad channel bit is like
Ha ha it's because you know
I don't know self-deprecation Ha ha same bad time same bad channel like I I told luke for many years. I didn't really understand when show
Like what the point of it was now? I think so. Yeah, okay. Yeah, but I never used to I used to be like
It's not really a very good show like we don't we don't really give a detailed synopsis. We
Like often get things wrong. There's a lot of analysis portion is very questionable
You know like what's the point of this and I finally figured it out. It's just like hang out bro talk about tech time
especially because like weekly
news In the modern era, it just means old. Yeah, it's just old news. Which is not news
That's we don't even the end doesn't even stand for news anymore light potentially inaccurate analysis of old news
Yeah, like we retcon we retconned that years ago
um So like I could never yeah, I could never figure out what the point of wanshow was and I think I think a big part of it
Was that I didn't have the time in my life to enjoy wanshow?
So for me wanshow was just work for many many years and then luke and I stopped working together day to day
And I started really enjoying wanshow because it was the one time a week that I could like hang out and catch up with him
And then I realized that that was the whole point Was that it's just like the weekly like, you know talk about tech and decompress and just like kind of
You know kind of chill, right? That's what that's what wanshow is
I forget what the merch message asked Oh, yeah bad time bad channel, right? So the bad channel was partly poking fun at that. I just like kind of thought wanshow was stupid
I didn't really get the point of it
But but I think you know sometimes sometimes look look I I've been doing this many years
But that doesn't mean that I always a hundred percent get it like we had a long debate during writers meeting today where
And where like I was going back and forth with one of the writers
Over whether this concept where we like fish around for parts in the warehouse and just like build computers was
Had enough of what I call like learning outcomes or if there was or if it was too contrived
And like, you know, I obviously, you know argued a position in this and I took I I just said I thought it was too contrived
But that doesn't mean like I'm gonna stop thinking about it after the fact because
You know the writer thought that they were right still at the end
We kind of agreed to disagree at the end of the day But like I'll I'll have to keep thinking about it because just because I think something and just because I have all this experience
Doing this doesn't mean I'm right every time not even close
so Try anything twice right is uh is kind of the attitude that we have to have about things
um And in the case of wanshow, I don't know try it
thousands of times Yeah, and then eventually you'll get it right, you know, yeah, um, and then of course it's a reference right to to like 1960s
I think it is 1960s batman bat time same bat time same bat channel with adam west
I think there's another problem when it comes to youtube content, which is like eras
there's some stuff where you might try it and
It doesn't do well Um, but then there might be another this is really funny
I don't do you
I don't even have anything to say about that
I want to get like an n95 with that on it. Yeah
Oh, man That's pretty good
Yeah, I don't even remember what I was saying who cares
Oh, man Uh, hey daila love the beard. I'm moving to germany soon. Do you have any tips or advice about moving to another country?
Having never done it No
um Good luck have fun
Be maybe start learning the language. Yeah start doing that ahead of time and commit to actually falling through that
I mean like look Quebec canada is one of those places where people either say it's great to travel there
Or they say it like sucks and the people are horrible And as far as I can tell the main difference is whether you bothered to try to speak french or not
And I don't even blame them. Oh, yeah, I guess. Okay, so kebek is the closest thing to a different country
I've ever moved to they think they're a different country. So I moved there for six or seven weeks
I forget exactly how long it was and in like a french immersion program and
They're like the nicest people in the entire world
If you speak french You don't have to speak french well
You can speak the worst french in the world and especially in a city like montreal that's very bilingual
You can walk up and be like bonjour
comment toilet
And they'll be like it's okay, bro. I speak english
You'll be like, oh, thank god. Where's the bathroom? But you try right?
But you you fucking tried and they respect that whereas if you walk up and you're just like, hey, where's your bathroom? They'll be like
Oh, it's just we taste of les je ne parle pas de l'anglais
I
That's just the way it is and and I get it. I get I get it. I understand that
So, yeah But it's also just like if you're trying to go to that place like yeah, learn their language
I don't know if you want to be there Learn how to talk like they do it seems cool
Do the stuff that they do is there is there an activity like drinking beer the same with germany? I don't know
eating bratwurst I can think of a variety of things for journey for canada. I know it's stereotypical, but like go to a hockey game like do do
Try out stuff that locals do see how it goes
Yeah, canadian bacon said engross yourself in the culture. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, do that. Yeah All right, let's next
Oh more topics sure we can do topics I
What one Let's do grok
The was giving its heart out to the crowd one After a tuesday fix grok the ai chatbot by elon musk's x ai went on an anti-semitic
tirade Uh parroting nazi talking points and began referring to itself as mecha hitler
To be fair the bot did have help from the x community users asked grok to choose between mecha
Users asked grok to choose between mecha hitler and gigajew and were able to inject extra prompt instructions
as hidden text with what looks uh with
Tools like parcel tongue to manipulate the bot's behavior x ai also appeared to temporarily disable grok's ability to respond via text
And deleted a number of posts elon said the problem was grok being too eager to please
I am so tired of us personifying these things grok
It does not want to please anything or anyone
grok's restrictions were too light. That's what that means grok is a glorified pattern recognition and regurgitation
Software let's not pretend that it has restrictions on it. Yeah or not. Yeah
um, well, no it still does they're just
Yes. Yeah. Anyways, uh in other news the next day, uh
linda yakarino yakarino linda yakarino announced She is stepping down as ceo of x after two years a successor has not been named at the time of writing
Also on wednesday grok 4 was released during a live stream, which also unveiled the new 300 per month
subscription called super grok heavy just because
They wanted to replace the previous two nicknames. I guess Finally on thursday ai researcher jeremy howard posted a video showing that grok 4 first searches x to get elon musk's views and opinions
Before considering other sources and presenting an answer
Wow, I didn't see that Whoa, that's uh
Really interesting actually Holy the discussion question is how far along do you think we are in the journey to true artificial general intelligence?
Lol, uh, are we still in the infancy of ai? Yeah, maybe it's a toddler giggling as it repeats all the bad words
It hears us saying
Or back to the personification of ai bit, um
I think we're a lot further than uh people trying to sell ai would like you to think
Oh, yeah, 100% like a lot further But there's so much money in it now that they can't stop lying about it because it's a it would crash
It's a very interesting money movement machine right now. Um
And yeah, if it stops moving the like american economy
Freaks out I think did linda y ever have a chance as ceo of twitter?
Like with how outspoken and polarizing her boss is the owner of the platform. What are your metrics?
I don't know because like you you have you can't control
What elon does yeah
Like you can't control him taking his other products from his other platforms
Just integrating them and then they're like spewing hate speech
like how do you You can't control advertisers not wanting to deal with the guy and like the boycotts kind of went away
But I sincerely doubt that a lot of those advertisers that led the platform are not still recognizing how much of it is like bots and garbage
Oh, it's like i'm sure they're not getting our way on it. I'm sure the advertising is not covering the cost of what they're doing
There was a lot of There was a very considerable amount of bots and garbage before the takeover
But it feels like it's never been worse right now I think one of the reasons why it feels that way is the monetization of
Like views So it's all these like threads and yeah, blah blah blah
porn bots So it's a really crazy platform right now
It always really has been but especially right now
Yeah, I know maxi Okay, I'm trying to find the bit where
Grock was also um
like Oh, yeah, okay. No, this is probably too graphic for when sexual harassment thing. Yeah, yeah
I don't think we could you could bleep all the words I think let's just stay away from that one. But Grock did more than just become a raging anti-sendite
Yeah Like a lot more. Yeah, like these are pretty
These are pretty disturbing things that Grock wrote about and there's like way more stuff than that. Yeah
Like way more stuff than that. You gotta you gotta think how long this was open to
The users of x and you have to imagine the types of things that run there. I've seen some crazy stuff over the last while
um, not as most of Most of the news cycle that I've seen is about that the graphic stuff about the ceo
Um, that's what almost everyone I'm seeing is talking about
I I hadn't seen this stuff before and there's a ton of other stuff that I have seen before
Um It was wild but like we've seen this forever. This isn't really new. Yeah, it's kind of the first thing that happens with an ai
If you train it on twitter Well, if you train on the internet to be completely honest like if you look at um
A lot of really early versions of this they would do this if you didn't put like right strong bars in front of them
um
Yeah, it's almost like people are the problem
Yeah, it's the people speaking of butt heads
Thieves have been giving themselves refunds with pos terminals
Multiple Toronto area small businesses have lost thousands of dollars as thieves have used the business's point of sales terminals
To issue themselves large refunds. Do you want me to take this one?
Yeah, my tongue's getting pretty sore. Okay here in Canada It's pretty common for businesses to hand over a pos terminal to the consumer
It's all right to the customer to complete a transaction To the point where it's really really really weird and like bothers me a lot being in places where they take my card
Because like that should stay with me. It is I wouldn't even say pretty common. It is always that they'll hand over the pos terminal
um Between two businesses contacted by a ctv news nearly seven hundred seven thousand dollars
Was stolen police haven't linked the two cases, but say they there was a wave of similar cases around the city
Uh, wow interesting in each case the terminals haven't had passwords set for refunds or have used default passwords
a spokesperson For manaris one of the leading pos providers said in an email when merchants set up their devices
They're prompted to set administrative passwords on the devices and it is recommended that they also set up user profiles and permissions
For things such as refunds We also always recommend that businesses treat their payment terminals as they would cash
Locked away and secure when not in use I can tell you right now that most of the businesses I walk into around here
Do not have their pos terminal like locked away and kept somewhere safe. It's just like out on the counter
No, and I can pretty much guarantee that that is not going to happen
So basically this is just meant to be kind of a psa. Um, if you run a small business
Make sure you have your administration password set up on your pos terminal and that it's uh
That you have passwords for giving refunds and all that. We don't want people to get ripped off
Yeah, the the like user accounts and passwords. I think is is
Good and reasonable. I don't think people are going to lock these away. That's an insane workflow
Damaging action speaking of insanely damaging actions
An appeals court has
No, I can rest. It's okay. I got this. All right, fine
An appeals court has blocked the ftc's click to cancel rule
The ftc's click to cancel rule which would have required
Subscriptions to be just as easy to cancel as they are to sign up for was struck down by a federal appeals court in the u.s
The court agreed with telecom and industry groups that the ftc skipped essential rule making procedures
Including failing to properly consider public comments and depriving stakeholders of a fair opportunity to influence the final outcome
While the court noted that the rule wasn't created in bad faith
It found that the ftc's approach was fatally flawed
citing a rushed process and internal descent among commissioners
The unanimous opinion stated that the deficiencies
caused prejudice to the petitioners and justified scrapping the rule in full
Not just in part In summary
The ftc is now fully staffed by three republican commissioners
After the current administration fired the remaining democrats earlier this year a move that violated supreme court precedent
But hey, who cares about rules anymore With the g.o.p. In control and industry opposition already entrenched the rules future looks
Dead as a doornail and that's really unfortunate because there's a lot of super predatory stuff that this was poised to
eliminate like uh gym memberships for instance that you need to go in person to cancel this is just
blatantly brazenly anti-consumer and pro big business and recurring revenue dark pattern bullshit and
It's one of those things that I just kind of look at and I go like
All right single issue voters. Um
Well Enjoy it way to go
um I what I wasn't sure why this was in the doc
But youtube addresses ai content demonetization. This seemed like a bit of a nothing topic to me. Yes, but I thought it was um
Thought provoking okay, so let's go through the facts of it first and then we'll go from there youtube is addressing a
Spate spot spate spate a spate of articles inaccurately claiming that upcoming train changes to the
rip rip Do you want me to do it? I can do it. Sorry. I'm struggling today. Uh to a policy would
demonetize No, no, I got it. I got it. I got it. YouTube is addressing
You're just addressing a spate of
Not specifically or exclusively ai content. Okay. Well, I think we really
Need to start at the beginning though Sure go for it
YouTube is addressing a spate of articles that have
Inaccurately claimed the upcoming changes to the repetitious content policy would demonetize all ai content starting next week
Spammy content ai assisted or not is the true target of this update not specifically or exclusively ai content
posts from team youtube and the youtube insider are clarifying that July 15th will bring a
Minor update to their existing partner program monetization policy is meant to help the platform better identify when content
Is mass produced or repetitive? Which viewers often consider spamming which was already ineligible for monetization
So the reason that I wanted to talk about this was that
Uh, let me see if I can find the thing
Uh, yes
Elijah was like, oh god the man who can't speak of the man who can't read or fighting
It's good stuff. Um
This just this got flagged for us because of psu circuit
Oh, I don't think that falls under that. No, it doesn't but that's what I thought
Would be an interesting conversation sure should
Something that because because a lot of what people have said about psu circuit and the the ai voice read bit
um of it Is that hey it seems like spam
So I guess the conversation that I wanted to have is like
Where does the line for ai generated content exist?
If this was what youtube was trying to do If they were demonetizing ai produced content
Where in your mind is the line because psu circuit
Is certainly not entirely ai generated
It uses original testing done by humans
It uses a template that was not generated by ai that humans worked hard on for its scripts
What it uses ai for is to actually
Read it and the reason that we do that is not because we can't pay someone for six minutes to read the script
Is because the editing is also automated and if we have an ai read it
Then the timing of the read is extremely consistent and the ai
And sorry and the the editing script can just plonk all the right things onto the timeline where it can be quickly reviewed by a human
And the reason we're doing that is that psu circuit is not even meant to make money
It is purely the article NVIDIA form for people for whom that is the best place for them to discover it
That's it. Maybe in the future You know, it'll gain some traction and we'll kind of go. Oh, okay. Yeah, maybe we should start doing nice b-roll
Oh, maybe we should start having a human house. Maybe we do this. Maybe do that
Or maybe for key releases we could do something like that special occasions, but for now
It is entirely a money-burning furnace
Okay, just so we can test power supplies so people can learn about them. That's it. Um
But would that be too much ai is that is that ai? I
I'm gonna give you a little bit of a non-answer Because I think what's more kind of interesting to me. Maybe
Is that I I don't necessarily care too much
But I think the reason why they won't go after things like psu circuit
Is because it would be way too hard
Not because of psu circuit, but because of like everything else. Especially in the short space
Oh It's like how much ai
Like voice there isn't it now using ai to like copy and steal other people's content a little bit easier to detect
I see okay making actually original content that has some layer of ai stuff on it
One that I've seen that's pretty common is you use Art or references from a thing that you're discussing, but then it's an ai voice
um Like I remember I was getting a lot of shorts recommended to me for a while there
Way back when I played the warhammer 40k space marine
I like looked up a couple things about it And then just my whole everything got taken over with warhammer content
And like a lot of it just ai spammy stuff and I started getting really interested in that because there was
for sure real people making videos that was them talking about like
Warhammer lore stuff, but with just like art of warhammer playing
And it seemed like I don't know if it was being stolen or what but there was also definitely not real people doing exactly the same thing
Right different pictures. Maybe maybe I don't know. I didn't look extensively enough to like really compare
But different pictures and stuff, but it was for sure an ai voice like I would bet my life on it
um, so it's it's do you think it would be an improvement to the youtube platform
if every individual person Or corporate entity had to like register who the owner of every channel is and you basically couldn't have one if you don't register
Was google circles
Just way ahead of its time. I think it kind of was a little bit. I don't think commenting users should have to
But uploading interesting
Blue strike says it could still get bypassed. Yeah, there's a bypass for anything
But I'm just I'm this is more of a hypothetical conversation because I think generally
kind of pro-internet freedom people like us have have
Generally been on the side of like no anonymity and anonymity is our is our god-given right as users of the internet
I think ultimately I I think it would take away some of the the magic that is youtube
But like facebook marketplace Was really good for a very short period of time
Because it was all real verified people doing real verified ish deals
I think it could because i'm trying to think like you know if a whistleblower comes out
They might use youtube as a platform to make sure that their message
Yeah, sure goes far. So like I don't necessarily want to
Don't want to harm that But maybe there's a hybrid model where like you get a little bit elevated more or something if you go through the verification
As soon as there's a crack in the armor though The spammers will find a way into it
Yeah But think about old twitter
The verified tag actually did matter. That's true
Like actually it's like so worthless now. Oh, it literally means nothing now. Yeah, it means I want monetization
I will probably be more spammy than most other people on this platform
That's what that means to me at this point, but it used to mean something
It was a very frustrating twitter verified checkmarks used to mean something. They did though. I mean they did
Do we have any i'm gonna i'm gonna look
There was one on the back of your laptop for a while, but I think we switched laptops
Um, and I I hated them and like
Because I remember there was a there was an there was an account that was impostering me and then being super racist
Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, I do remember that. Um, and they wouldn't shut it down because they wouldn't verify me
For like I don't even remember the really is just stupid and then eventually
Eventually they were open to verifying me and I just said no because I was like salty about it
um
So I'm not saying the the system was perfect Considering there was an account that had my profile picture and would auto update to my profile picture if I changed it
My banner same deal and all of my tweets
Immediately after I sent them and then also inserted racist ones and I proved all of this and they were like
Uh, yeah, we can't tell who's the real one. So
I don't know. We're gonna leave it up Yeah
You know what's funny is my personal twitter is also not verified because I was just like no
It's a bigger chad move If like I don't care you're verified because you just like are you
Boom got him I don't need a checkmark to be verified
I was like way ahead of the it's not cool to be verified curve
Yeah, I forget when they offered me verification, but it was like before the takeover and I was like no
Yeah, I did the same thing and it's just like it's dumb like to be clear
That's stupid. It doesn't matter at no point in time. Did it matter?
But I I just liked it, but it was still fun. I liked being not verified. Yeah
And then I put a little globe there because it was just blue and then uh
Somebody I don't remember who Said I was some form of political thing because apparently that became a political movement
And I put the globe there like years before that became a thing
But then I got bundled in with that. So I mean do that something was like who knows
Like the the symbolism of what like whoever's doing like like oh, yeah, kate middleton was wearing this color
Which shows solidarity with the f*** are you talking about? How do you keep track of police things?
How could you possibly know like what we're celebrating this month and like what color but what this color represents today is like
I Hold on. Okay. I'm trying. I don't know what
Red is definitely something Because apple did a red iphone at some point. It's blood and it means that you support
um This is breast cancer. I think sure. This is the breast cancer screwdriver. Yeah. Oh, yeah communism. There you go. Oh stop
Port studio. I got that from curious bread. Thank you. Virtuous says that any xbox series s60 FPS game can be
Easily quoted or quoted easily ported to the switch 2
They've ported many games over the last couple decades or at least helped including heavy rain horizon zero dawn cyberpunk 2077 and cod modern warfare 3
You might have heard of some of those And they are aware that the switch 2 is the fastest selling console of all time
Thanks to the improved hardware and software They're confident that anything running well on an xbox series s will run well on a switch. That's hilarious
I sincerely doubt That might what microsoft had in mind when they released a less powerful version of this generation console
To the ire of many game developers who all of a sudden had to build two stupid performance profile targets
For the lesser selling console this stupid generation
That they would be just creating a path for
Relatively quick and easy cross-platform optimization of the xbox series s version over to the switch, which is one that actually sells
I'm sure that's not what they had in mind
Uh-oh, oh, sorry. That's me. Okay
Thank you Dan. That's very helpful. Um
But I guess my question is how important do you really feel that third party game support is to the switch 2
Personally, I don't think important almost at all. I mean apparently there might be a deal on the switch though
It's so many developers ported. Yeah, it might be a user-based thing. I don't know like I just don't get it
It seems unimportant to me. It is not the reason why I buy the console me neither
But then I mean I asked my son this too when he ultimately chose to switch too. I was like, okay, look, but if
If you didn't have a gaming pc Would you have gone with the pc's like yeah?
so like Wait, no that just proves my point. Yeah, we buy nintendo games to play nintendo games. Yeah, we didn't have
Something else and we wouldn't buy a switch. Yeah, you'd probably yeah, what would you get first though? It wouldn't be a nintendo
I don't think If you computer yeah, I know I was reading an article from someone that's like, yeah, I'm not sure if mario super mario cart world
Is a great game, but I haven't put it down since the switch came out and I'm just like really like you've played nothing
But mario cart world for the last month I've seen some people say that they've really found the grinding and like yeah, like the new mechanics like really really engaging
But man, I just I just didn't I don't you know what? I'm genuinely happy for them that they like it. It's just it's not my game
Oops, oh no, oh no
Don't forget to monetize my test at least you don't have to laugh with a lisp. Sorry cough with a lisp
Oh
Whoops
Donkey Kong bonanza looks good though, when does it come out soon? I think
Is 007 only on switch
I don't know uh game switch too. What's the name of it even?
Donkey Kong is Thursday, they said
First light is always called
Can I help you? I'm trying to figure out if the upcoming 007 game is on not switch
Okay, well you figure that out. Uh the creator warehouse team has reacted to shift fashion group. Okay
I'm just gonna fire this up here Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun we uploaded this on LMG clips
Which is the place to go to check out wan clips as well if you don't feel like sitting through the whole WAN Show
I don't blame you it is a cool hangout, but it's pretty long Yeah, we needed somewhere to put this it didn't really make a ton of sense on ShortCircuit or LTT so
Here it is Here it is So you guys can go check that out
In summary, uh, we agree with Some of it. We don't necessarily agree with all of it and there are
design constraints around the creation of our products that um
You know not every brand might deal with and
Some also do and uh, I thought the original critique video was cool. I also thought this was really cool. It was really cool
For me to hear some of the reasons especially
Personally, I found the the cargo pants the reasons around the pockets and stuff was like. Oh, yeah, that's pretty sweet
um Do we explain that on the site? I'm not sure. Is that something that we would even really want to explain?
I'm not sure. I think it's a bit much. Yeah Um, I wasn't really sure when I was watching it of like, is this something we should communicate more or not
I don't expect everybody to agree with our thought process, but what I can say is there's always a thought process
If that makes sense Yeah
And sometimes the thought process is I really like cotton poly blends
Sure, we do have some all cotton shirts coming Yeah, I don't personally find that that the hand feel is particularly better and they will shrink more
um, so like Sure Some people are into that and that's totally cool
Some people will only wear an all cotton shirt and I totally respect that we're gonna have small cotton shirts coming
But it's not my preference Yeah, so yeah
cool
Um add an explanation in FAQ. Yeah, I don't know that people are frequently asking that question
I really I honestly don't think they're either. Anyway, you guys should go check out the response. Um
Uh belkin Now that's her name. I've not heard in a long time
Belkin true, right sent out an email alerting customers that it will be ending support for older wemo products effective january 31st 2026
in reality, this is Most wemo products because support for the wemo app will be discontinued at the same time
along with all features that require cloud connectivity Wemo products configured for use with apple home kit before january 31st 2026 will continue to function via home kit
In the absence of the wemo app and wemo cloud services
This does not impact wemo's thread based products all four of them
Which will also continue to function through home kit
Belkin is offering partial refunds for some products if your wemo product will still be under warranty
On or after january 31st see belkin.com slash wemo for details
And our discussion question is is it time for stop killing smart hardware?
To go along with stop killing games And I think the answer is yes
If you are not going to engineer your product in such a way
That it will it can continue to work when you pull your support
That is on you that is not on the customer who bought the product
Based on the promises that you made about its functionality
I was actually explaining stop killing video games to my dad
Who's in town visiting and he was like yeah, I tuned into your
Wayne show or whatever you call it and I saw you talking about
Talking about like killing games and took me actually took me a little while to figure out what he was talking about
He was not super technical, but you know, he's trying to tune in and you know sure. No, it's cool. Yeah
He's getting the lay of the land. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. I respect it. Yeah. Anyway
Yeah, he's like so you're talking about Game killing or something and I'm like, okay, hold on a second. Oh, right stop killing games and he kind of goes
Yeah, it seems like it seems like it's bad, but can you kind of put it in simpler terms for me?
And you know, if you're not familiar with all the lingo I understand the way that we present stuff sometimes can be a little bit overwhelming
And so what I came up with for him and that really seemed to kind of land was I was like, okay
Well, like look at it this way Okay, so the game
You know when I was a kid, right when you bought a video game
It was on a cartridge and the whole game was on there And if you wanted to play that game you put it into the machine
And that was it that we had the game if you own the machine you own the cartridge You own the game it serves forever. You can use it any way you want
And he kind of goes. Yeah, okay. And I go, okay. Well, that's not really how things work anymore
Now when you buy a game Some of the features or in some cases all of the features of that game
Rely on the maker of that game to have like their server
interacting with your game machine in order for them to run
And so you're basically at the mercy of them to keep that running forever. Now we can't tell them, okay
Well, you just have to run your server forever. I mean, how long is reasonable a year 10 years 100 years a thousand
You can't tell a company to run a server for a thousand years. That doesn't make any sense, right?
So I understand that maybe those those functions
Um might not work forever But what's clear is that we have a problem then
Because imagine if this was anything else that you bought. So I was like, okay, your pants, right?
They come with they come with pockets with zippers
Okay And then all of a sudden I the manufacturer of your pants go, okay
Those pants you've been using them for five years you bought them because you really like pockets with zippers
You're still gonna have the pockets, but they don't have zippers anymore. Well, that's
That's f***ed up And he's like, oh, yeah
Yeah, that's that's pretty f***ed up. That's uh
That's not very good And it's like that's the problem here because I'm not actually
I'm not trying to drive companies out of business I'm not trying to say like hey video game makers. Hey smart hardware makers
You should just you should just be legally obligated to support everything forever
Until you just collapse under the weight of your of your legacy product stack
It's also a little bit of a difficult argument because like in your exact example about the zippers thing
Like if we look at Floatplane if Floatplane has a feature
But we think that it should work in a slightly different way or
That's this is a feature of a pocket. You haven't removed the pocket
You're just changing the way that you access and secure the pocket. Maybe it has a button now. Yeah
So like it's it's tough and like we have to be able to change things
You can't you can't be in a situation where it you release a
Website or a service and it has to say in the exact same state. It always is that's
Obviously stupid. So like the the line gets a little bit funky because as we talked about looking at like an mmo
Patches versus expansions. Yep. And even things like back to smart hardware now like my sonos speakers
I invested heavily in the sonos ecosystem
Because I loved the integration with google play music
It was the best. I've never seen anything before or since that has been as seamless as that
I could literally be listening to music in my car or on my earphones
And I could just pull up my phone Press the cast button like google is like like chrome cast cast button
And then I'd just go this speaker this speaker this speaker
Go and it would just Start streaming to my sonos speakers and then sonos and google went at it
And now the products You can still use them together you go in the sonos app and then you go to your google
Stupid youtube music thing and then you go to your search and then you find a thing and like your guess your playlist is in there
But it just it just it sucks It just sucks and I just want them to fix it
Yeah But that's not something that I could I can't say like hey
You know it doesn't work exactly the way that I used to like it. Therefore. I want to refund
I don't think that's reasonable either because I can stream my youtube music
Over my sonos. We've had people do that with float playing and we've just approved it
Approved what whatever they're like. Hey, you guys
We've literally had someone complain about the new general user experience design that we did with the sidebar changing and stuff
Oh really they're like I hate this a lot and we were like well
Okay, they're like I want my money back and it was like okay
Oh, all right. See you Well, okay, we're not trying to trap people
But like that's different we're subscription service. No for sure. It makes it a lot easier
Like if I wanted to cancel my last month of you know youtube music
I think that's one thing but I but in the case of hardware, it's not that simple
Yeah, but this this is like it can be a whole ecosystem. This is this is where the the conversation gets
pretty Deep because there's so many different types of sites and services and apps and products and
I think just forcing them to go open source then
If you won't support it, what's the what's the line?
Because if you won't support what is like a really important part of this conversation
If I play a video game that has guns in it and my gun gets nerfed and it sucks talking now
And I know but like let's say they're like oh this gun's overpowered
Let's lower the damage stat and the handling stat because you loved playing with that gun
Yeah And I'm like well you need to support a game with multiplayer for the the patch that has my gun being good is like
bro Yeah, it's impossible. Yeah, so like and but then that's like at what point in time are we ship of thesia seeing this thing
Like if all these mmo's that are releasing expansions that completely convert the entire game
Just doesn't call them expansions anymore and calls them patches because a lot of people a lot of these companies don't even charge for the expansions anymore. So like
Like it's you we know Thoroughly that places will detect what the rules are and work around them
I think with physical products it does get a little bit simpler and I so knows one is super muddy
But in the case of like Belkin and wemo here. I think this one's pretty clear
But in terms of like exactly where the line is no, you're right. It's very difficult to say really tough
And it's going to end up probably being different in every different jurisdiction like
It's going to get messy man. It's gonna get messy if you don't want to support the servers anymore offer them to the players. Yeah, sure
But that's that's not what I was talking about right they are still supporting the servers
They're just supporting the servers for a patched version of the game It's his hype is a different hypothetical. We kind of moved pretty fast through them there. We did. Yeah
Anyway, you can act now to keep demini out of your third party apps
Source ours technica starting monday july 7th google implemented changes enabling its gemini ai engine to interact with third party apps
Like whatsapp even when users previously configured their settings to block such interactions
google recently sent out an email informing users of the change framing it as a positive move
That will make it easier for gemini to access phone messages What's happened utilities regardless of whether your gemini apps activity is on or off
A notification page linked in the email states that human reviewers
Including service providers read annotate and process the data that gemini accesses
yikes The email provides no useful guidance for preventing the changes from taking effect
The email said users can block the apps that gemini interacts with but even in those cases data is stored for 72 hours
Okay, so last week We took a little bit of light flak for saying that apple being hypocritical
Is really really bad and not also calling out just how google um is like really really bad in those ways
He's just honest about it Um, so here we go. Here's where we talk about google being pretty fucked up right now and there's not being okay
This is way worse than apple sending an ad for some stupid movie that they bankrolled
Sorry, I might be misinterpreting this but the email said users can block the apps that gemini interacts with but even
In those cases data is stored for 72 hours. So that's not true. You can't block the apps
I'm not sure 100 what they mean. I'm not sure what that means. I wouldn't overthink it right now
Okay, because I want to block this now
This sucks. This is wild
I hope they get if this is true to the words that are in the doc
I hope they get crushed in court for this. This is insane
Let me uh, let me make sure we get you guys an update on this next week. I'm just going to flag this at uh
Uh, okay, here we go Can we keep abreast of this situation and keep
Providing when show viewers with updates. This is crazy. Okay. I have assigned. I have assigned
Yeah, I want to see how this develops because I think I think we're like we're pretty early on this right now
Yeah, so There could be details that we've gotten all quite right and maybe google will back down on this
Let's hope that both of those things are
True. Yes true
Finally Twitter co-founder jack dorsi posted on twitter saying that his weekend project to learn about bluetooth mesh networks and related technology is
BitChat a decentralized peer-to-peer messaging app that works entirely over bluetooth
While the tagline is secure mesh chat a notice in the github read me warns that the app is a work in progress and that private messages
And channel features have not received an external security review and may contain vulnerabilities
The uh disclaimers were apparently added after researcher alex radosia
Demonstrated a man in the middle attack that would allow an imposter to impersonate the user through bit chat's favorite system
Cool anyway, it's uh
It's an offline chat network that's limited to a uh a very small geographic area with simple functions
This thing's kind of cool. It's like uh, it reminds me of I already have these that don't that don't use bluetooth. They just use other stuff
Was it a carrier or something that used to have like a walkie-talkie feature? Was that a phone manufacturer? Was it Motorola?
I think that was phone. Do you know damn? I can't remember it was a thing though
I think it was a phone because if you were like sitting on the same plane together you could like chat with each other
It apparently was Motorola next tell no kia. Okay, apparently there were a few folks that had done stuff like that
Um, so yeah, look at that. We reinvented that
Yeah, and there's like Good job jack dorsi. There's definitely stuff for this
That's like actually really good and you can set up your own static networks for it and stuff
Yeah, firepanda says it's basically briar then
Yeah, there's like a lot of Good job, though. I hope blue skies going well. Yeah. See ya. All right, then time for after dark. Let's go
Enter to after dark my tongue is so sore
Because like didn't even let me do topics for you the bite block. I could have saved you the bite block's not smooth
It's textured So every time my tongue brushes against it. Why it's like quite uncomfortable and so my tongue is raw
Was it textured because your teeth keep impacting it? No. Oh, it's just textured
Charged nuclei in chat, uh, said what I was thinking
Definitely not All right, man
Yeah, I'm not repeating that Question for duke and dinos. What was your scariest scrapyard wars encounter? Definitely finding the crack pipe
Oh, man, I'm trying to think was it was it over budget or what or no no my scariest
um My scariest scrapyard wars was definitely when we killed our motherboard right before testing when we did the one with bob and rod
And we never really proper showed how the fix worked. That was wild. It like wasn't in the episode by the way
That motherboard. Oh, that's right. You have it. That's hilarious So we had to like jump her off the fan header to something or something
I don't even I still don't actually understand why it worked
I was stunned. Yeah It was actually crazy because like the board like like made fire
Yeah, and then I like plugged that header into like another header and then it like worked or something
Which I don't even really know how you thought of I I mean it was a time of desperation luke
Yeah, and then it worked for like a decade
Amazing I I don't know. I don't know if I had uh
I mean, there's a lot of scary moments in regards to if we were going to have something or not
But like I don't think I ever really had You know terrible interactions with people that were selling me things or anything like that. I think it's been fine
Yeah Hey Linus what got you into badminton and any tips for anyone who wants to pick it up as a hobby
Thanks a million for this killer limeday and the keyboard bonus will make the girlfriend happy colon capital D
Heck yeah, nice. Um couple things. I enjoyed it in high school
Like I just found it fun And then I never played again until I met Yvonne and her parents had some badminton equipment and like
There was a group that included her parents friends that played at like the gym of a local church
And so we started going there and playing and some of the older players were kind of nice and took us under their wing and
sort of showed us some of the basics and
Kind of the rest was history. I think it's a really complete sport is the way that I describe it. Um
It works out your whole body You're dominant side a little bit more than you're not dominant side because like it's a racquet sport
And you know, it's what it is, but we've been discovering that with little man. Yep. Um
So it so it works out your whole body And to really excel at it you need speed stamina
Reflexes strength bit of flexibility
Yeah, flexibility, um brains like you there's strategy very deep strategy. Um
Yeah, it's just it's a it's a fantastic sport. I love it good with plyometrics too
It's good with fat professional movements. Um great sport. Yeah, basically the entire time you're doing it
You're doing hit which is pretty cool. Um
Yeah, it's great. Um any tips for people who want to pick it up as a hobby?
Find a friend group basically every single time and it doesn't
There's no room to be shy. I used to be too shy to ask people to play
If you want a network, you can't be shy So you just have to go to places where people are playing whether it's community centers, um or like finding online groups
This is something that I had to go through twice in my life once to build my group locally
And then again to build a group of players in taiwan because I go there once a year and I play badminton when I go
Um, so you gotta you just have to go put yourself out there
If you see someone who's kind of at your level, you know
Don't impose on the really strong players if you're still a beginner
Like they might be nice and play with you, but you're really like messing up their groove
Um, if there's a huge skill disparity, so try and find people who are like kind of close to the same level and then
Get contact info try to create a regular group
Go to the same place play at the same time every week So you can make it part of your routine because anything that you don't make part of your routine
Is not going to help you. It's so easy
To bail on a fitness program But when you have a group that will help hold you accountable
It becomes so much easier and it becomes so much more enjoyable and rewarding as you guys build each other up
And make each other into stronger players over time. So that would be the biggest thing is
Build your rolodex. You got to do it because otherwise it's just not going to last
Kyle asks how long do we have this resident of Linux for?
um This bad until monday morning
I called the ortho. I said, look, I need these by blocks out. I can't talk and I talk for a living
um As for the train tracks, I think it's probably going to be about a year. I think the top's not too bad, but the bottom's pretty rough
Question for mr. Tech Tips Y'all did a collab with delta hub for the LTT edition cap
Re capio Carpio 2.0 Why not carry it on y'all store as well as theirs?
Oh, it's a good question. If I had to guess I'd say it just comes down to the margin structure like they're a direct-to-consumer brand, so
um Them I assume they paid us money for the co-branding opportunity
So then if they also had to sell us the product
At a reduced rate from retail Then they'd be giving us a disproportionate amount of the margin on the product would be my best guess, but I'm completely guessing though
um
First whan show message long time Floatplane member
What was your first reach out to sponsor like when you first started youtube videos ncix LTT?
Was it difficult or awkward? Yeah super awkward um
That first ces was wild man
Like I was desperately trying to get any meeting that I could people didn't really understand youtube sponsorship
It was all like traditional written advertising at that time
um Whether it was the right thing to do or not I heavily leveraged the contacts that I had made at ncix to try to
Somebody told me Dan did that I didn't know press yours. Yeah
I thought you guys noticed I noticed his I hadn't seen mine yet
I Sorry, I had no clue. I wasn't trying to derail you. I just wanted to test it because I didn't even believe it at first
It turns out it was true. Sorry about that. Keep going
Anyway
As a buyer, um, you know, I I had contacts at various tech companies
But they were like in sales not marketing So I tried to kind of again it comes down to networking. I tried to build my network and just kind of
Lay out like why you should sponsor us and um
Like I think our first product was just those quick like pre-rolls
Or what was it? No, our no our first product was just sponsoring our trip to ces at all
We wouldn't have even been able to go. I didn't have that kind of money um, and so I think it was uh Corsair
C gate and links is I want to say so that basically just came down to like my buddy
Oh, yeah, that was weird Anyhow, can't tell that all sorry. Yeah. No, I don't think that would be best. Um
But yeah, those were the main ones and what those companies all have in common
Which is hilarious is like one guy brad hutchinson has worked at all of them at some point or another shout out shout out brad
um Because like breaking down the barriers of bureaucracy to get someone to do something that's out of the normal is hard
it's really easy for someone in marketing to just like
Renew their quarterly spend with the people they already work with
It's really hard to shift that bucket around
Especially to something that has kpis that are measured in a completely different way
And where you have to like say no one else is really doing and we have to say oh, sorry
To you know, a long time partner that you've been supporting, right?
Like it comes back to the whole uh, you know Intel thing for a long time or was it IBM?
No one ever got fired for buying something. Who is that again? I forget was it IBM? Yeah
Or it was either IBM or Intel. It's easy to do the safe thing. I think it was IBM. Yeah
um IBM says charge nuclei and chat. Yeah, exactly. So like
No one ever got fired for just continuing to do the ad buy that they always did that
Was I guess effective enough or something? Whereas when you make a radical change. Yeah, you can get in trouble for that. So yeah, no people stuck their neck out for me
I appreciate that Dear elves when you play tower fall. Do you ever play the co-op mode?
You've mentioned playing tower fall a few times. So if you haven't tried co-op. Oh, glad this black pack isn't all black
Yeah, I haven't I haven't actually tried co-op. I've only ever tried versus it
In fact, I thought it was one of those games like uh, like nidhog where it just like doesn't even
Yeah, I had no idea the co-op mode. Maybe it's new. I just looked it up. But uh, is it like a campaign or something or like what?
I have no idea four-player co-op gameplay
What am I looking at you like take out baddies or what?
Uh, huh Looks like 2v2. Oh, it's by four-player co-op. They probably mean 2v2
No This isn't co-op. What the hell
Okay, well fine. Sure. Well, we'll figure it out
What's not what co-op is supposed to mean?
No one or two player co-op quest mode
tower fall ascension
Okay Nido and they say specifically a brand new one or two player co-op quest mode. I'm down
Sweet. We'll have to try that sometime when we're not playing tape to tape. That's gonna be tough
That'll be pretty tough right now next bike painting. I guess. Oh, I heard from the devs. Um
Hold on. Let me just make sure I don't get this wrong So I complained about the interface issues with um multiple players and they were like, yeah
We've never really tried more than 2v2. So that makes sense
um and then um
They said that it's going to be a little while before they can get that fixed probably um
Oh, I don't want to commit them to anything. I'm not committing them to anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we can work around
It'll be a little while but not that long. Cool. Yeah, sounds good
And then I was telling them the keyboard requirement sucks. So they're gonna look into that as well
Uh, we tried 5v5 for the first time ever in tape to tape, which is this uh roguelite hockey game that we've been playing
um I might as well just bring it up on screen. So this is what it looks like basically it's like a
like a hard fighting hard farting
uh top down style hockey game like you played back in the 90s, but with no rules and um
A lot of hits and drawing sticks and all kinds of wild stuff
Uh ton of fun in its current form. It's still very early access and there's still
There's a it's got a it's got a long way to go
Especially with how ambitious they're being about the game
But uh, yeah, I look at at this point. They literally could have just
Done a few small polishing touches to what they originally had
Fully released the game as tape to tape one and then just made tape to tape two
And I don't think literally anyone would have bad an eye because it is so incredibly transformative what they're doing like
What a wild Yeah Sure, it's been fun to be part of the journey regardless of what form it ends up being released in um, absolutely awesome
Basically people are asking what did they change and what they changed is that this whole
campaign system where you like
Are a hockey player and you're this is old. Yeah
Where you're a hockey player and you're like Taking hockey back from the big bad golfers or whatever this whole like campaign seems to be dead in the latest versions of early access
Which like I actually really liked Yeah, yeah, and I'm not saying the new one's like worse. I don't think it is
I think it's I think it's gonna be better once they fine-tune everything. It seems like they're
Overall headed in a cool direction Yeah, but but this was also really good and could have easily been tape to tape one
I agree with you to the point where it's it's like so substantially different that I think
Similar to sieve. I would have had fun playing both. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, we might have done like a tape to tape run this day and let's let's try the og version whatever the next day. Yeah
anyway Earlier this week our softball night got rained out
And so um, I recruited a handful of people from softball night the handful of people from elsewhere
And we did The first ever in the world including by the developers. They've never actually tried it five v five
Human teams so 10 player tape to tape
Dude It was awesome. Oh cool. Elijah actually streamed it. There's a vod somewhere. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice
Dude It was it was awesome. There's a lot of issues like the um, all right
The sports teams are really poorly balanced. They're like way too fast and they're like way overpowered. They're all like ovr 90
Which is oh, wow, which I mean I already feel even with the not too powerful teams
The the rink is a little bit small that I find the the game is best like midway through. Yeah
Agreed. Um, so there there's definitely issues one player has to play with a keyboard. We managed to find this like
Joystick to keyboard like controller to keyboard mapping thing
But we found all kinds of issues with just the identity of that controller not being recognized properly
I mean you got 10 controllers connected to the system, which is already kind of an edge case
um So it didn't really work. So Elijah went back to playing with a controller
um, yeah, the menu slash selecting was bad
but we like kind of We kind of figured it out. It was an absolute
Blast so I I kind of wanted to try and get it going again after when so today
But I don't know if we're going to be able to recruit enough people We'll certainly try. Um, the dev said though that a 3v3 is apparently the kind of the sweet spot that they found for versus anyway
Um, and it's definitely worth it worth playing. It's pretty fun. Um
What else did they say? Oh, yeah, I told them that um
IMO checking needs to get a little easier But they could counter by making this dagger for the check or a little longer
So that it kind of punishes you for checking too much it
I definitely prefer the old system. I don't know. I also understand that the old system was kind of like
Really op? Yeah, so there's got to be a downside to just throwing the body all the time
Like I could even see them having a risk of injury checking someone else
Like when you play a super physical game like you're an alex of etchkin or something like that
There's a reason that players like Eric Lindross
Um run into a lot of injuries in their careers
Although Lindross was a bit of a special case, but just those super physical power forward type players
They do tend to get injured sometimes when they are throwing the body against someone else
Um, I should probably also give that feed. Oh, no, I think I already gave the feedback that injuries need to be short though
Yeah, I was gonna say it's right now or wait. I think they're working on that and they're too long
They're working on that. I think the impact should be low Um, but yeah, there's a there's a they're working on a lot of tweaks to the formula right now
They're they're working hard. This is the first game apparently, which I think is crazy excellent rectangle
Incredibly good for a first game like I'm kind of mind-bogglingly good for a first game. Um, I think the bench also needs some work
There's like, yeah, they they they're cooking. They had a complete game. I know I know
They're cooking put them cook. Yeah. All right. What else is going on?
What is the logistics of this? Did you all find a spare parts box in the back of the shelf from the ltx?
They're talking about the the mixing matches I think it's a combination of that because we do still have a bunch of like random mismatch bits left over
Um, and also I think we shot some new parts so that we'd have enough inventory. Um, don't quote me on that
but that's my understanding of how the mystery screwdriver came to be another element of it is that
Um, discounting is a bit of a double-edged sword on the one hand You make the people who buy it with the discount extremely happy on the other hand
You make the people who bought everything at full price extremely unhappy
If you create a different product with a different value proposition in this case
It's a product where you get a random color Then you're far less likely to upset someone who bought it for $69.99 a week ago
If you have this available for $49.99 because at least they got the color that they intended
So it's always a balancing act. Um, but I think it's a combination of those factors
It's Hello, luke Linus and Dan Linus. I'm a father to be what are some movies tv's games that you couldn't wait to share with the kids
Oh Man, I'll say this the ones that you kind of hoped that they would enjoy
Put your expectations aside, um
I'm just trying to think like The stuff that you enjoyed as a kid is probably not going to resonate with them like
I really wanted my kids to like Final Fantasy 6
But the ones that they actually Picked up on like my son played through crosscode because he saw me doing it
Um, and if I'm being honest like it's a way better game than Final Fantasy 6 because it's way more fast paced and
the characterization is Fewer characters, but is really good really really strong like it's almost like art
A lot of the time does improve over time
Yeah, so I'd say maybe
Don't worry too much about it and find new things that you guys can enjoy at the same time
I think those are the ones that have gone the best You know what's pretty cool though
My son finally likes to play catch Oh, I wanted someone to just throw the ball around with for so long
And this is even more exciting My daughters are into it because they've seen him do it and they've come to like work softball nights and stuff
That's cool. They want to play catch. They can't really throw hard enough to get like a satisfying like game like just like like
Throw and catch, you know the thing going sure he can he can
He can even put a bit of a curve on it now. It's just fun. Nice. That's cool. Yeah, so um
So that that's very satisfying for me. It's just like it's it's a weird like sensory thing, but there's like
There's just something about Like a like a hardball. I don't really I don't really love throwing the softball as much as I love throwing the hardball
um Like a hardball get landing right in the pocket
like Oh, baseball is like one of the very few sports. I didn't play when I was a kid
and I at zero points in time ever thought I would be interested in being a quarterback
Never really into throwing so I don't know
Feels good It's like I used to do these things called sports days in the summers
Or we just go out to the field with a bunch of random like sports equipment and just do stuff
Yeah, yeah, and we'd end up, you know throwing footballs back and forth or whatever doing that
It's fine. It's a good like I want to be outdoors and do a thing activity
I don't find catching the football nearly as satisfying There's something about the sound of the ball and the leather and just like ah, it's good. Yeah, it's good
Hey Wham game. DLL question for Linus. What pool control panel did you have installed?
And have you played around with any of the wi-fi features if any?
I wouldn't recommend whatever I have. I don't know if it's because of them or if it's because of our
unskilled installer Maybe maybe this is an opportunity for you know, someone to reach out to our to our public-facing emails
If you happen to work for jandy and you want to fix my at some point. It's still a cluster. So
Totally open to that I think our autofill on the hot tub still doesn't work
So we just have to like go with the hose periodically and just like make sure that the pump isn't sucking air
Which is kind of stupid in the year 2025. I think
First world problem, obviously, but like Yeah, like topping up water like my toilet can top up water. Are you like fucking kidding me right now?
Like what are we talking about? Did you have a second company come in and do a good job? Yeah, remember what happened? They did a bad job, too
Okay, because I was gonna ask for a recommend. Nope. Great
Great, hey Uh, will there be more lime day deals tomorrow and sunday? Will the current deals just persist as it is until monday?
I actually don't know. I know that throughout last nick. I know that throughout lime day
We did plan to add deal drops. I just don't know if this is the last one. Um, stay tuned
Is lime day Yeah
Why are AMD drivers still trash recently bought a new rx 7600 on a deal here in portugal and AMD catalyst keeps crashing
Only resolved when installed the basic driver. That doesn't sound right. I literally drive AMD right now and it's mostly fine
I was gonna say I've heard they've been pretty good for quite a while. Um, you may have a defective card
you should definitely You should also definitely ddu and or even reformat
Before you conclude that you have defective hardware But if your drivers are crashing and only resolved with a basic driver like the included Windows driver
You may have bad hardware. You could have a bad power supply as well
I Dlo auto mechanic here boss is floating the idea of using meta glasses for videos of the courtesy checks
Any good arguments against it? Honestly, that sounds kind of smart
Um
Yeah, it sounds kind of smart like, um There's been so many times in my life when I wish I just like kind of logged what I was doing
Like while working on like like fixing something
Because like sometimes you'll just you'll like have something happen. You'll be like, oh, oh, oh, man
Okay, how do it can I replicate this? No Where it's like if you're like just logging a check that you're doing on a customer's car
Man, that's it's such a great tool for like showing them. Okay. Yeah, like here's where we found the problem
Um I don't know. I kind of logging is fantastic in like the server and hosting world
However, your boss is also basically installing a surveillance
tool on you Oh, right. So any language you use or whatever like they can easily take that video file
Throw it into like a what's recording an audio too. I would assume so
Uh If you I would I would argue that it's a privacy
Concern to record audio Like I know in some places they can't you can't so if it can just record video
I think I'd be into it if it can record audio I would I would probably put my foot down if I were you that's I think where I'm at on where I'm at on it
Why is the dock only available on the us site? I actually don't know that. Um, not a clue
It could be down to because remember that's not our product
So we don't determine like which markets it can or can't be sold into
So that's a that's a Corsair product. Um, if I had to guess
I'd say it has to do with a combination of either Corsair said that it's
Intended for a specific market which could be done to warranty support or whatever else
That could be a possibility another possibility could be that they are all at our us distribution hug
What? Um, we're really working hard on getting
faster shipping times around the world and one of the first steps that we've taken is having a
Hub for some products in the u.s. Including that one
Another guess would be that we don't have many of them. So maybe we went for
Some of those at one gc and some of and and the other product at the other dc
dc is distribution center not just to Columbia Um, those would be my three guesses, but I don't actually know the answer
I Question for Luke. I saw you're going to open sauce. So cool. That's not a question
What are you planning to talk about or show over there sending love from argentina? I think it's leisure
Is it work? I don't think it's work. Is it's for sure work. Let's work about it sauce plus
I don't buy it I'll keep tabs on him. I'm not getting paid over the weekend if that helps you
Are you getting paid for wanshow from sauce plus your salary just f*** anyway
Sauce plus check it out. Yeah scare the coyote season one. Yeah
And other stuff and also building a real Gundam day four this guy's such a mad lab
Yeah, those episodes you're getting them one day ahead on sauce plus. I believe is the terms
Um, but yeah, I'm I'm going down there. I'm hosting
Three different panels. I don't remember what they're all about. Oh
Free virtual free does virtual ticket to open sauce 2025. Yeah just 550 per month build yearly
Yeah shows ad-free viewing support creators directly sauce plus by the way, it's also powered by Floatplane. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool, right?
Yeah, check it out. Yeah, william osman. Yeah sauce. Yeah
Uh, the the one panel that I remember the topic of is during industry day
So I don't think it's open to everybody, but it's if youtube disappeared tomorrow. What would happen to your business?
That's why you need to like should be fun I thought is uh, I don't think I don't know if they actually really planned the fact that I do
Floatplane and sauce plus for me being on the panel, but I was like, this is going to be great
I am
Sounds good. Yeah, so yeah, it'll be good. It's good last year. It'll be good this year
Luke Uh, I teach high school programming and I'm going to teach the kids vibe coding bite me
We actually have a video coming up on this that I'm very excited about
I need a ladder system that I want to be elo based for badminton
now I could just hire someone to make that for me
But that would be a lot of work I could tell luke to give me one of his developers to do it for me
But that would be crazy because they have better things to do
So I came up with what I think is a brilliant idea
You can't justify creating this elo system for my badminton club because it's you know, not making money yet
And also, you know, we have other things to do that are more important. So I get that I get that I understand that
But what if I needed a developer For a video for a video
So I came up with a video And it's going to be me versus a real developer
We're going to let me we're going to sick me on trying to vibe code
An elo based like ranking system so that you can like input people's scores and it will like
Adjust their elo rating and blah blah blah whatever
I've really given a ton of thought to how this is going to work
Um, and then we're going to pit me against a real developer
With the expected outcome, right? Obviously, we're not going to we're not going to we're not going to like fake the results, right?
But we do have a hypothesis With the expected outcome that being a real programmer is probably going to be better
But that vibe coding will get me a lot further than I would get if you just like
Stuck me in a in a development environment. Yeah, could you explain vibe coding for the folks at home?
Uh vibe coding is asking AI to code for you. There you go
So line is vibe coding Who has literally never written a functioning line of coding in his life
Versus a real programmer with all the tools that they have
Including the ability to use AI if they want to and there's there's effective applications like, um
Emma built this tool for her old workplace. Um, that was really helpful and it was based on google sheets
and she Vibe coded with an AI to make it actually happen and it's way better than what they had before so like
I may be able to build something functional But part of the payoff for the video is going to be to have our real developer
poke and prod at my thing and be like, um
Okay, well, we've got a bug here. We've got um an edge case that you haven't accounted for here
We've got a security flaw. Oh my god Like i'm expecting it to not be very good. We'll see but we'll see no idea
I mean, maybe it'll be good enough and maybe that will be an interesting outcome too
Either way What I really want out of it is the real product from the real developer and i'm just gonna pretend to vibe code it as best
I can well i'm gonna i'm literally gonna do this i will do as best I can yeah, but i'm i'm just like have you done
any of that yet interesting because
Uh As much as I was a little hesitant with the teacher saying that they were gonna do that
There is like things you can learn to do it better. There are skills to it
Um, if it's actually a programming class, they might also just be messing with you
Maybe So I mean take it as a hypothetical. Yes, they are going to do that
Yeah, um I mean if it's like a small segment because they're gonna do it anyways, so if you can like work with them to
Hopefully help them do it better a lot of people really use ai in in
To be blunt just dumb ways, but uh, so if you can help them not that would be pretty cool
I guess because again, they're gonna do it anyways Um ai's literacy is apparently really bad in canada. I heard that on the cbc
So it's really bad everywhere. I think particularly bad in canada. How is that measured? I have no idea
They probably asked a high Canada is not a country
Let's see, uh, you're you're a you're canada jab in your uh google yourself video is pretty good
I thought that was pretty funny important countries and also canada
Yeah, I think we're nice enough, you know, but not particularly consequential
It also depends on the scenario and the time. Yeah, there was that convention. We helped, right?
Yeah Next message. Hey, you're the one, right? Nice
Hey, he went a deal. Why in bigger orders do you split the packages between two separate carriers? Uh
I don't know. Oh, we had some like issues for a bit
So maybe that's what you're talking about
Maybe perhaps Last one I've got to you today
Why don't more people talk about the lack of drivers on Windows for Intel ssc or equivalent bluetooth le audio on broadcom more
It can actually be a huge problem living in apartments in big cities. Okay, so um google thinks I mean Intel SSD
So let's go ahead and find out what you're talking about
Spread spectrum clocking. Oh Okay
Like we do that for our wi-fi here in the office, I guess. Interesting. Okay
I'm going to confess that I was not super familiar with this because I've not tried to make my bluetooth work
Will be blown an apartment lately um
Lack of drivers on Windows for it. I don't know. That's a really good question and
Like I've run into Like a super congested environment very recently when we were doing natalie's amdl's mitt tech upgrade that
It was like a huge problem not because necessarily everyone around her was
Transmitting but because there were just so many ssid's that her wi-fi wasn't working at all
No, it wasn't just the launcher like we couldn't get anything working speed test wouldn't work
um That part wasn't in the video, but it is a thing that we checked. Um, I don't know. That's a really good question
I guess it should be a thing
Good point It's all I got. That's it. See you again next week same bad time same bad channel. Bye
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