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Oh my god. Oh my god. Look at it go. It's driving itself.

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Driving itself. Are you touching the gas? No, I'm not touching anything.

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And guys, this is no Tesla with autopilot or whatever.

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It's not a Waymo. This is like a five-year-old Toyota Corolla.

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Oh, it needs a little help. It needs a little help. Oh.

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Oh, look at it go. Look at it go.

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It might smell a bit like mold and it definitely isn't much of a looker.

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But with the help of this incredible piece of technology,

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the Comma 3X and the open-source self-driving software it runs called OpenPilot,

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this practical commuter car is now in the same class of self-driving as a base Tesla with autopilot,

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making it into one of, if not the cheapest self-driving cars on the market.

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I have wanted to try this guys for so freaking long.

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And thanks to Ventrue, who sponsored this video sending over a bunch of their dashcams,

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we can have all the angles when we show you guys exactly how easy it was to install

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and what it feels like to have what is fundamentally a cell phone drive your car for you.

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And did I mention it's open-source? You did, but it's cool enough to mention it twice.

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There's no way that this is it. That is it.

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This is the Comma 3X and this black box contains everything we need to turn the car I'm sitting in self-driving-ish.

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Make driving chill. Oh my God, that's a lot of fine print.

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Let me read the fine print. It actually says fine print.

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Oh yeah. This is the bulk of the hardware and it's basically a phone with a Snapdragon processor,

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128GB of built-in storage, a 2160x1080 OLED display, USB 3 and of course LTE, Wi-Fi and GPS.

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The wild part though is that it's not even a high-end phone.

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Like it's about on par with my old Galaxy Note 9 in terms of the performance.

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What isn't on par with the Galaxy is of course the cameras.

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It has two 180 degree lenses, one here and then one on the back in order to give it a 360 degree view

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and then also has a narrow field camera to see far ahead.

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It's cool that it's got the Comma logo on the back. Yeah, they actually do.

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All the electronics assembly and design in the USA and they even have their own SMT line in their office

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where all the circuit boards are made. So this hardware is fully custom and apparently they can make up to 500 of these things a week now.

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It's not cheap. I mean a thousand US dollars is a pretty hefty price to ask for like a Note 9 tier hardware

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but they are operating on a really small scale and on a hardware product that's made in the USA and fully custom?

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Seems pretty reasonable especially when you consider the software development that goes along with a hardware product.

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I mean it's open source but they're pushing most of it. And to their credit they are costing down the product over time rather than the other way around

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which goes against the industry trends. This used to be more expensive.

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If you look at a ton in the way of accessories, we've got a Toyota A adapter harness.

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Yep. USBC which just goes right into there.

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The right angle USBC here. That's what connects to the car. And then what is this?

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That also connects to the car but it's technically optional.

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That's like the power adapter. So if you have this in your car and you want it to be like uploading training data at night, you need that.

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It keeps it powered. Oh, super cool. You can also GPS track your car with that plug in and it off and like remotely check in on it.

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Oh, that's super cool. Like a Tesla. You have to pay money for that.

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We'll get into that later. Yeah. All you need because I don't think it's fair for me to try to install this.

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I work on cars all the time. I want to see how a normie would do it.

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There's instructions. They're not specific to this car but there's instructions.

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Cool. Step one, remove the rear view mirror cover trim.

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This is where I'm going to stop you. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's step one.

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I don't care. So like I said, I work on cars.

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I don't know why these instructions don't include this but step one of working on any cars electronics

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is disconnecting the battery. It probably doesn't matter.

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And to be clear for our use case, I'm actually not going to do it because I want to see what

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happens. But if you're doing this at home, you bought this thing, just disconnect your battery first.

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Wait, wait, stop for a second. Trim tool? No, I got it.

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No, damn it. There's a sponsor thing you f**k. Luckily, our sponsor, Ventrue, includes a little trim tool with a dash cam so you can

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use that to get it off. It said to slide down, I think. Oh, here, this part.

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Take this part off. Boom, there we go. And then now I'm supposed to do it.

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Oh, sorry. Yeah. Hey.

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How you doing, buddy? Connect car harness into the camera.

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Oh, so I am disconnecting my existing camera.

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You're putting it in line. To be honest, I don't know if it actually talks to that part of the car at all.

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It definitely doesn't like analyze the feed. That's for sure.

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I did see on like a Reddit post that someone said on cars that have blind spot monitoring

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that it will stop a lane change if it gets detected on there. But I don't know if that's supported on all the cars.

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That is kind of the thing about open source solutions is yeah, it's got a feature set.

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Some of which may be implemented. Yeah. To their credit, a lot of it is just reverse engineering.

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Like they just have to basically f**k around and find out.

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Yeah, look here. We've got a little connect-a-ma-jig. Uh-huh.

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And then we put our other connect-a-ma-jig right where that one was.

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Okay. Oh, yeah, there we go. We plug this guy into here.

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Got a little bit of VHB tape. Oh, they've got a nice little pulley tab for me on it.

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Thanks, comma. I don't know if this spot's going to work, but I stuck it there.

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This is killing my back sitting in here like this. I'm getting so old, dammit.

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Where's the other one? Oh, wait. All right.

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Here we go. Now I can get in here. Oh, wait, don't worry.

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We're in a sweater. lttdstore.com lttdstore.com, baby.

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Now we're going to plug our power cable into the car's OBD port.

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A little something like that. So I'm kind of thinking we'll come across this way.

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Yeah, buddy. Now I'm going to plug in this power connector.

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Okay. Here's the other side of this power connector. We're going to cable manage this a little bit later.

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And then now we're going to use, comma's got this funky USB cable that improves the clearance

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for the back of the unit here. See it kind of, it's right angle, but it's like going off a weird wonky way.

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So we're going to plug the other end into right here.

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Now I'm just going to find somewhere to put this and honestly, there's not a lot of room.

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Oh, bud. She's on. She's not going anywhere.

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I don't think I managed to get the VHB tape attached to anything, but it's stuffed in there

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so tight. Let's go, neighbor.

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Step three, place mount high and centered on the windshield. It looks like you already did that.

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Yeah. You're supposed to let it cure for 48 hours. So I stuck it on a little early.

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Make sure all lenses are free of debris. Oh, look at that. I should have got you the apple polishing cloth.

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No, you shouldn't have. Now all we got to do is pop this bad boy on here and then this slides into our mount.

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A little something like, here we go, boom.

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Just like that. Step five, reinstall the rear view mirror cover.

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Trim. Oh, I already did that. So I'm done.

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Pair your device with Kama Connect. All right. Let's do the setup guide.

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This is one of those cases where I might actually recommend connecting to 2.4 gigahertz just

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because your reception might not be great in your garage. It'll just kind of depend on where your access point is.

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I think I can probably do five gigahertz, but your mileage may vary.

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Or hotspot your phone. Choose software to install. Okay.

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We're going to do open pilot this time, but there's actually, you know, like any open

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source project, lots of people who have other ideas for how it should work.

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And various forks that have their own strengths and their own potential weaknesses.

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Yeah. Some of them look very compelling and we will try that later.

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We're actually planning to do a long-term review as well where we try a couple of different

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cars. I really want to see how it is compared to Tesla's built-in basic autopilot and maybe

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full self-driving. I don't know. And then we also want to look at the other software options because apparently some

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of them are really good and like add things like you can make it so it follows really

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closely. Say you're in LA traffic and you don't want people cutting in front of you.

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I feel like a dick, but with the computer. That's pretty cool.

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We should actually have a few different drivers try a potential too. Yeah.

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Get subscribed so you don't miss it. Oh, is it almost done? Oh, it's doing a software update.

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Yeah. So there is an operating system on it right now, obviously. I can't remember what it's called, but it's Linux-based.

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And what it's installing right now is it's kind of like an app, basically.

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But that app takes over everything. I can't believe how painless this was.

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Like even filming it, you know, so redoing takes and all that, dude, we've been here less

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than an hour. Oh yeah. Very just, yeah, DIY, you just chuck it in your car.

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If you watched a video of somebody else doing it beforehand and you had all the cables ready

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and you knew how to take that thing off, you could do this in 10 minutes. Before we drive, we're going to sign in and we get what?

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Remote access, 24-7 LTE, a year of drive storage and remote snapshots.

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If you pay for it. Oh, is there a benefit to signing in if you don't have a Prime subscription?

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It allows you to look at your drive videos for the last three days. That's what they'll keep for you.

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Kind of like a dash cam, or you can pay a certain amount of money to get all of those

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features and a data connection, or you can pay like 10 bucks a month to get all those

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features and you use your own SIM card. I don't think that the one including data even works in Canada, but why would you pay

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for a subscription for like dash cam functionality? When you can just get a dash cam from our sponsor, Ventrue.

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We have their Nexus 4 Pro S here, which is their new dash cam.

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It has triple channel recording, including 4K on the main channel.

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It's got a remote third camera that's waterproof. You could even put it outside.

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So you got like a big sprinter van. You could stick it on the outside. Oh, that's pretty cool.

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It has like a rear view camera if you wanted. They use Sony Starvis sensors. You can use their plate picks thing to have better clarity for license plate stuff.

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Oh, that's huge. It's got GPS. It's got LTE if you want it with an add on.

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It's kind of the bees knees. And they also gave us a few more. We've got the E1 Pro down here, which is a single lens camera.

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And then there's another one at the back. That's a 360 camera that even has a 360 action cam mode.

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You can take it out of your car and use it like a 360 cam if you want. Cool.

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So thanks to Venture for sponsoring this and we'll have a bunch of footage of the drive because of them.

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Okay. Sure. Yeah, I'll put the fire hose.

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That just means it uploads more data for them to train. It's an open source project, but it's also a like distributed training pool.

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So when you drive, even when you're not using open pilot to drive for you, it's recording

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and it can upload clips. And they even allow you, if you want, depending on your privacy settings to upload the driver

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facing camera data, if you want to help train their driver attention models.

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I had abled that. Normally, I would not ever put my seatbelt under my ARM.

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You're not supposed to do that, but my microphone is here. So yeah.

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Are you scared? You seem like a bit tense. I'm a little tense.

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If we die, there's going to be so much footage of it.

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Here we go. Okay. Drive above 15 miles per hour.

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It's Canada, you f***. Oh yeah. Let's change that.

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I'm finding the interface really intuitive. You just tap it, and then it brings up the settings cog, and then you just use metrics

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system. Look at that. Let's go.

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We'll just do aggressive driving personality. No. Standard.

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Let's start with standard. Whoa. See, look.

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It's already charting the course. Well, let's get out to the road. So it's very important that when you mount this thing that you put it centered, otherwise

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your car will like lane keep off center. Okay.

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Okay. Calibration in progress 98%. So that looks pretty good.

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Oh my lanta. Oh, Jesus. Take control.

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Would it say the turn exceeds a what now? One thing that it doesn't do yet, when you're on the highway and there's like a corner,

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it's not going to slow down based on that. That's a feature that's also like in forks.

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So they can do it based on looking at the view and also using satellite data as to like

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the curves of the road. But you can be on a highway and it can have a pretty aggressive corner and it will still

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try to do 100. But that's also a problem in Tesla's autopilot.

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Okay. Here we go. Here we go.

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Here we go. Over the line. Yeah.

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This is some not very good. So far. Yeah.

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Nope. Nope. Turn exceeds steering limit.

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Okay. Okay. There we go.

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There we go. You know what? That might be a thing with this car.

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The lane centering cruise control of this car might not have the functionality to turn

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beyond that. Theoretically, it's detecting this red light, right?

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Okay. It stopped on its own.

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My feet are completely off the pedals. My hands are completely off the wheel. Is it going to go?

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No, it's not going to go. Okay. So I tapped the accelerator.

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Is it going to go? Oh yeah. She's going.

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She's thinking. Changing the... Uh, yo, it, it, I mean, it changed the lines.

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It obviously won't signal for you. So it's kind of like driving a BMW.

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Jesus. Let's see how it handles this.

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Oh dude. It just drove us into a turning lane. Yeah.

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I had to completely intervene there and this light is green and it just tried to stop

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me. Okay.

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It doesn't have navigation. There was a navigate feature that they were testing for a bit, but because they're still

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trying to work on the actual driving model and getting that to be really good, adding

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that into the training stuff just made everything way more complicated. And so they removed that for now.

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Let's see if it can stop at the stop sign. Hey.

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Nice. Okay. But is it just going to go?

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Nope. This is me. Okay.

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I'm just driving myself a lot less stressful.

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What exactly is it that made us choose the Toyota Corolla? If you look on their page of compatibility, you know, it's like 300 cars now, which is

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great, except not all of them are supported at the same level.

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Some of them don't allow the, uh, like auto stop, start from a stoplight or stopping at

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red lights, um, at all, even in experimental mode. Some of them only do the lane centering above a certain speed.

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There's just limitations based on the hardware of the car and how much development has gone

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into it. The reason to why we couldn't just install this into Ploof's car, like there just has

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to be support for it. That car has no electric anything.

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You can't just make an analog hydraulic steering rack turn itself.

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The car has to support the features to begin with. On top of that, we wanted a car that was cheap.

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It wasn't going to work in your Porsche because they don't support it. I guess there's not a lot of Porsche dudes that want this in their car.

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So with Linus being a little bit cheap, I wanted to find what is the cheapest self-driving

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car we could make. And this was the cheapest one with the full feature set.

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Hey, a roundabout. Oh God. Let's see what happens in a roundabout, boys.

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I don't think you should have the turn signal on, but it's, I mean, it's, yeah, okay.

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Nope, nope, nope. Okay, I got you, I got you, I got you, I got you, I got you, fam, I got you.

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Fam. We're real close to that curb, boys.

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Oh, oh, oh, no, no, we weren't.

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Brother, I'm on this side. I can see. I disagree.

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Uh, uh, let's see what it does. Let's see what it does. No, it doesn't know.

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It tried to turn. No, no, it made the right call. Dude, it made the right call.

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It just took too long to figure it out. Yeah. And it couldn't turn that sharply.

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I actually, I'm pretty impressed by how it handled that. I could see how much better this would be if it had navigation data.

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Like live navigation feed would make this so much more powerful because it's not taking

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into account that the road is going to turn soon. It's just looking at what the cameras can see.

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Okay. Take control, turning seats, steering wheel.

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Yeah, that's fine. No, no, I got you. I got you.

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I got you. Okay. I was kind of like, oh, she's just going, she was just going to like plow into the back

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of this. Yeah. It's only lane change assist, remember?

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I wouldn't even call that an assist. I would call that just sending it to this is where it should shine.

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I just can't believe this is like open source. Right.

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We've mentioned it a handful of times. I know. But it even bears mentioning more times because that is so cool.

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Just makes me imagine, dude, like this running on like an M4.

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Okay. No, no, not the car. No, no, I know what you mean.

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But also, yes, that would be cool. What I was going to say, they actually built out support for having an external GPU.

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Really? So you could run like a huge model on this thing.

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But the car's free. Literally.

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Why not? You could have more processing power than like a hardware for Tesla pretty easily, which

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I mean, to be honest, that's the other thing I haven't considered up until this point.

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This is like a five year old smartphone. Is it more than five years?

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More. To compare the hardware they're running on to the kind of like neural processing, like

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that's taken off in that last half a decade that we have on modern devices.

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With an AMD GPU. And like they're using TinyGrad, which is like GeoHots company where they're developing

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like open AI drivers framework, everything, right?

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Oh, yeah. Oh, we're changing lanes. Oh, dude, that's so cool.

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That was awesome. It totally warned me. So imagine if you gave this thing like a 9070XT in an eGPU dock and just like stuffed

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it in your trunk. She's going. We have to do that.

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That has to be part three. Yeah, but just because you're such a sketch case, like just breathe.

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I haven't intervened at all since we got on the highway.

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I didn't even touch the steering wheel at all. Other than to tell it, hey, I wanted to change lanes, which is totally fine.

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I know that it's just like adaptive cruise control and lane keep it like every car I've

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ever driven with that sort of stuff. It's just like, man, this is, I really, really need to pay attention because it does just

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like dirt about randomly. And like on the highway, that was, I could have had my eyes closed the whole time.

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Not that you would or could, but in an alternate universe, I totally could have.

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The braking is pretty damn smooth.

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Really good. I didn't even think about it, which is honestly the strongest endorsement that I could give

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for it. The acceleration is a little aggressive sometimes, but the braking is shockingly smooth.

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Have you touched the steering wheel like at all or the gas or the brake? No, brother.

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Wow. It's really smooth. Yup.

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I would have believed that that was a human, like a, like somebody that's trying to be

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good. Yes. That like gives a other passengers.

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Yeah. Yeah. Whoa.

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Dude. That's pretty cool. Dude.

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Supposedly because this is like actually like a very state of the art, like machine vision,

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AI, whatever you want to call it, neural network model versus like some of the car ones where

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it's like just looking for straight white lines or straight yellow lines.

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It's supposed to be pretty good at handling like nuanced situations where the lines are

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faded or there's construction lines or you're going to country where there's places that

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there aren't lines all the time or in construction or yada, yada, yada.

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This is awesome. This is pretty cool. Like this is so I, if I had a car that supported this, I would buy this right now.

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To be clear, that endorsement is not necessarily because I'm financially irresponsible.

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Yes. But he would buy it to play with it because it's really cool to play with, but let us

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at least do the longterm one before we give you guys some kind of solid, hey, we feel

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this is worth it. And also just supporting this project. I have a really important question though.

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In your research for this video, did you check the legality of what we're doing at all?

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It depends. So OpenPilot says they designed the way that this system works based on the same guidelines

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that automakers stick to. There is also some things to consider depending on where you live.

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Some jurisdictions don't allow you technically speaking to have anything obstructing the

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driver's view. You're not supposed to have dash cams. You're not supposed to have radar detectors.

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You're not supposed to have anything on your windscreen.

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That is a consideration. It's not a problem here, but that's something to check.

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Here we go. Here we go. She's going.

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She's going just like that. And there's like cones. Like there's no line on that side.

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That's really cool. It's tracking that line though. Okay.

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Let's see if I don't, this might be too much turn. Let's see.

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Let's see. I think she can do it. Okay.

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All right. All right. She almost did it.

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Okay. If I, that's interesting. You probably just need to help it a little bit.

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Yeah. Oh, I didn't actually mention this. It's designed to be like a collaborative thing.

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So a lot of the self driving features in other cars are like as soon as you touch the steering

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wheel, it stops. Oh yeah. This is meant to be like you can give it a little bit more and it will, it will work

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with you. I'd love to see once their hardware gets a little bit more advanced, I'd love to see

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them integrate that into their training. Yeah.

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I think they do. They probably do. Do they?

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Okay. Cause as an open source project, I'm way more comfortable just like, yeah, sure.

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Upload all my sh**. Yeah. You know what I mean?

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Yeah. It totally stopped there by the way. Yeah.

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Totally did. That was awesome. That's crazy.

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That was really fun. Yeah. Check out the video where we put Android Auto in Ploof's car.

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Oh yeah. That was awesome. That was fun too.

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I wish we could put this in Ploof's car, but this is also still really cool.
