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Oh, okay, so I guess we're only live on Twitch?

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We're so back. What? No, it just takes a second.

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I thought you said floatplume was down. No, no, no, no, the chat service was down.

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Oh, the chat service. And the chat service is back up.

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Well, the chat service is the only thing that matters, as we all know.

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Good to know. This will inform future development.

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No. We could just delete the entire site, except for the chat service.

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My life would be so much money on bandwidth. Oh, God, so I don't know.

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You'd be amazed how quickly they can spam emotes. Yeah, but emotes are heavily cashed, like so heavily cashed.

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Yeah, cashed money. No, that's the whole point.

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Anti-cached money. Also, I think it's back down.

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That's a peak dad joke. Spelling?

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Hominems? Let's go. It's about Emilia Bedelia up in the way on show.

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Now that's a quality reference. Thank you.

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I learned language from a book, hopefully not that book.

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I mean, this is one of the reasons I can't spell.

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Oh, man.

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OK, cool. No major controversies for the moment.

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We are live right now, right? Yes. Well, we've got a great show lined up.

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I can't interact with you people because I don't have a working chat.

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I'll just, my CTO is on it, though, our best people.

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Our best people are on it. Our best people? Yeah.

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Our best people. No, no, no, no.

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Then people will know that our company is actually like super small.

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We say our best people. So whenever I'm talking to important people, I'll be like, have your people talk to my

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people. You know. Bands.

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Like, stop naming the people.

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Yeah. Talk to Vance sounds way less cool.

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Staying videos, just like, yeah, we'll just get, like, I don't know, Janice from the other

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department. She'll send you the GPU.

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It's like how, like, Canada's entire passport and, like, government ID control system is

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just like Bob and Eunice in Newfoundland.

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Oh, my God, it's so is, though.

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It's like half a joke, but, like, I am, I'm going through getting some regulatory crap

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dealt with right now, and it is, God, it's painful, whether it's taxes or whether it's

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permits or just everything. Oh, my God, like.

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You've got to talk to Janice. I, I. They're a little swamped right now.

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Fishing season is just getting started. I am so confused by what's going on in the States, particularly because it's like smaller

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government is like this kind of neat idea in theory of, like, you know, staying out

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of my biz, but then also, like, I can tell you as a Canadian that when there's just nobody

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to talk to you at the Canada Revenue Agency, it's actually a pretty big problem.

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Big government, small people. Are your things for your braces yellow?

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Why would you do that?

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Because what they actually are is white, and what I actually did was order way too much

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curry by accident and eat nothing but butter chicken and korma for three days.

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So now they're yellow.

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They're turmeric colored.

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Deal with it. I mean, I can deal with it, but it looks so bad.

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It looks horrible.

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I think I got some white out here if you want to like paint it on.

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I was just like, whoa, it's like, is he, so you having a hard time over there?

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I got some, I got some spray paint in from there.

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It's not that bad. Right. Yeah, I could, I could color correct you.

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Hey, they're straighter though. It's good.

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Like it was getting to the point where it's kind of hard to clean the bottom ones.

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And now other than the one twisted one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're, they're actually pretty straight now.

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My nickname for this one is twisties.

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Nice. Um, man, I've had, I don't know, I've had them on for, well, okay, no, no.

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We all know we can all look it up because the day that I got them on with the lossless

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scaling video, man, that is forever one of the greatest cuts where it just pushes so

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far into your face. Okay, so I've had them for about four months.

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It feels like a lot longer. It really does.

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Doesn't it? Really, really, truly does been here too long.

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Yeah, I am so ready for them to be off.

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We might not have a chat today.

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Oh, really? Yeah, actually.

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Am I going to do it? Do what? Read Twitch.

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Am I going to, am I going to open up? You could Twitch.tv.

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Am I going to? You could watch YouTube chat. You could watch YouTube chat.

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Am I going to go to TikTok? You don't have to go this far. Am I going to do that?

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Am I going to? You don't have to go this far. Oh my God, I'm doing it.

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I don't even remember how to pop it out anymore. Here we go.

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It must be here. There it is. Holy actual ball sack.

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It just happened. No way. Dude, they're going to lose their chat privileges so fast though.

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I got my mod icons open. I'm ready to start banning when you say.

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Like you know it's going to happen. They're going to lose their privileges.

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Pull a, what's that? I've got a macro for this and everything. Don't wait.

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Just flat. Pull a flat. Just ban like everybody.

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Yeah. I'm going to do that. I mean, I hate them.

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You can script banning people in chat. Really? Yeah.

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He just did like a banner snap. He did like. He just like got rid of half his viewers.

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Oh, I like it. Wasn't it? Maybe he's done it more than once.

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I thought it was anyone that had a Minecraft reference in their name. He's done a bunch where he's done like certain references.

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If you say a certain letter, you're going to be banned like the letter E.

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Nice. You're gone. Nice.

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Quality. Quality. This does not need to have audio.

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I forget if I, how does it work on Twitch?

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If I close the window, can the chat stay open? Yeah.

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Yeah. I don't think so. Yeah.

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Nice. Quality. I haven't used Twitch chat in years.

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I still read them.

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That explains so much. I have to read all of them. See this man?

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This is a man who has read Twitch chat far too much.

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Look, everyone's so happy in Twitch chat. You started a hype train. Which means people are giving you money right now.

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Look, it's a hype train. It sounds stupid. They're giving you money.

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That sounds stupid. They know how much money I have, right?

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Yo, guys, can we get to a level three hype train?

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So dumb. They're going to do it.

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You shouldn't give Linus some substitute on channel. You know the mean where there's the person with no cookies on their plate and the person

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with a few cookies on their plate? I want the person with all of the cookies talking to the other ones to be like, can

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we hit a level three hype train, please?

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I love that. Can we boost my Discord server?

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I'm not even going to be here for it. I'm going to go get a snack that I bought with my money that I already have.

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But now that money is gone, so if we can get to a level three hype train, we're at 80%.

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Let's go. Oh my God, I've got three minutes and 40 seconds left.

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Chat. I might be able to unlock a new...

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Linus, can I give you a gift sub to the LTT channel?

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He probably already has one. Linus said that if I get all the revenue from this hype train...

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Where? I'm trying. Woo!

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I love your review. You say that and it jumps. Let's go!

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Let's go! Yes! You're going to have the $12 or whatever we get after Twitch takes all their...

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We've got a good cut. Let's do this. Oh my God.

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Let's go. I'll actually try.

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Oh yeah, we're just about it.

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We just hit a level four hype train. Mr. Knowledge about Twitch stuff, what does it even mean?

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So a hype train is also named a scam train.

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It's literally just designed to be like be part of the hype train.

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By spending money. By spending money. Or a level five now.

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If you hit level five like we did or whatever. There are certain things.

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You unlock certain emotes for like limited time that you can use.

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They also have different types of hype trains. So like one of the hype trains is called a golden capital hype train.

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Where it's very... Yeah, one of the different hype trains is a golden capital hype train.

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Where if you get it, you get like a rare emote for 24 hours.

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And it's like actually really hard to get. Level seven!

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And then the other type of hype train is called a treasure train.

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Where if you get to a certain level, the gifted subs actually become cheaper.

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So it incentivizes people to gift even more to try to break certain records.

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So it's like, oh dude, now five gifted subs are 35% off.

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Because a measure of success on Twitch is how many subscribers you have.

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Yeah, yeah. So you're trying to push that, right? For sure.

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That makes sense. But like, okay, we are level seven. Now I understand there's scaling benefits, whatever.

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But like can you... Level eight!

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You have enough information with us apparently being level eight now.

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To know like how many came through. Like is it measured or does it like ramp based on speed?

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It ramps based on two factors. Okay.

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Size of channel. Size of channel.

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And average history with subscriptions.

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So like if you're... If you have a low history and then you're starting to...

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It'll okay. We have 662,839 followers currently.

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But 102 subscribers. Yeah, so us getting to a level seven hype train is going to be much easier than Kaesnat

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number one Twitch streamer to get to a level eight hype train because we don't normally

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achieve that. Yeah, we only need eight subs.

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Like I know some channels where to get to a level eight, it's like, hey, it'll be 25

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subs this time. Right. Right.

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Got it. So. That makes sense.

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I do love how historically when something goes wrong with one of my departments we get

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rewarded as a company. Well, this is just to fund the development time to fix the Floatplane chat, right?

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It's the hype train. It's 2.30 in the morning for them.

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I don't think it's going to happen. Oh my God.

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I was gone for five minutes because I assumed by then you guys would have gotten bored of

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this and stopped. Now we're at a level eight. Every time a level goes up resets the timer to five minutes, baby.

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I feel like just for the meme that I want to embrace it and just start screaming like

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hype train. No. All throughout the show.

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No. What if it doesn't stop the whole show? Can we add a topic?

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I'm changing the subject. Can we add a topic? The bell has been co-opted to Twitch now.

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You guys know that we're going to launch every week just about.

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We launch LTT Store products.

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Elijah, this is Poggers AF, whatever that means.

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If you must spend money, you can get real actual, what the fuck is wrong with you?

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Luke is hitting the gritty so hard right now.

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Guys, thank you so much. We can finally buy another multi-million dollar warehouse.

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Let's go. If we can get to level 10, you're getting that under feet camp.

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Feet camp. Feet camp. Feet camp.

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This is very, just Dan being the shelf or hype train is so funny to me.

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I learned from a zyge. Dan with the average. Don't say that.

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Don't. Don't say that.

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This is actually like I said, I can tell.

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Learn from a luxury.

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Listen, as someone of a hype train expert, I just want to say I'm helping the company

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make money today, boys. Your thing stopped going. I don't know if you wanted that to happen or not.

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Oh, you guys should actually like stop.

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I think we're level 10 now, baby. Oh my God.

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Yeah, level nine complete.

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Dan, do you want to somehow indicate on the flow plane and the chat isn't going to be

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working this week? Going to have brackets in the back of the title or something.

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I think title would probably be the best way to do it.

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Yeah. Unfortunate.

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Pitch is truly a reputable platform.

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One of the video platforms of all time. Well regarded.

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Yeah. Which is the best?

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Oh my God. 95% they like you a level 11 amount.

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The level that which loves you is measurable and it's 11.

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How does that make you feel? It might go up. It historically has been going up.

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Number go up.

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I'm going to be honest with you. The amount that they love you is almost a level 12.

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It's quantifiable. I don't know what it's out of.

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I do not actually understand what hype train is. See, we, yeah, we had an educational lesson.

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I can do another explanation. I don't care. Okay.

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I'm actually happier not knowing. I know that it involves throwing money away.

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No. It involves supporting creator.

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No, it involves throwing money away. And yachts?

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Valve? What a great segue.

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That's pretty good. That is pretty good.

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What I know is that the people who have large enough channels to get momentum on something

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like this are probably the people who need it least.

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Apparently it's no, it's scales based on your size channel. So you guys actually can get a hype train easier than someone.

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Yeah. Then someone else on like Twitch.

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Because you only need like three subs a level.

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I do hope everyone subscribing understands that full plane chat is going to work next week.

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So. I mean, this is also their way they get ad free on Twitch.

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Like it does. For a day? Well, no.

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Well, for the whole month. It works for the, yeah. A subs, they get ad free on your channel for a whole month when you subscribe to a channel.

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Right. So for the next four weeks on Wancho, there'll be no ads for Twitch.

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Sure. Every one of these people could have subscribed on Floatplane.

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Yeah. Yeah, for roughly the same price.

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Twitch Prime, a lot of them seem to be Amazon Prime.

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That's true. If you use Prime, they couldn't. There's a lot of Prime.

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Yeah. Because Primes are just whatever they're free. Prime.

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There's a Prime. Yeah. Well, quote free.

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Diversified revenue streams.

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Synchronized. I'm single-handedly making this on a percentile tonight.

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There's almost a double to our subscriber count.

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We only had a hundred. This is why we don't pay attention to them.

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We're like top 1% streamers with nearly 700,000 followers.

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That is actually a mind-bogglingly terrible follower to subscriber ratio.

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It's probably one of the worst. The amount of money that we've got.

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That's actually terrible. There's about 13.

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Okay, we've got to stop incurring. This is going to happen the whole show.

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No, it isn't. No, it isn't. No, it isn't.

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Okay. Stopping immediately. Okay.

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I'll let you guys do it. All right. Let's go ahead and start the show.

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Shall we? Oh, I changed colors. It's purple now.

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Wow. You should donate more money to LTDstore.com instead of this.

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It probably means you're getting close. Please. It means you're probably getting close to your previous record.

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They're all just Prime subs. Yeah. You're about to beat your previous record hype train, which is why it's like a loading

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bar now. Why did we ever have a hype train before?

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Because it just happens naturally.

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If it's a Prime sub, I mean, why not?

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If it's not a Prime sub, why?

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I wonder if this is the most subs we've ever had.

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No, I think that we used to pay attention to Twitch.

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Yeah. It used to be like our main, it was our main platform for years.

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Yeah, they were our YouTube MCN.

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Yeah. That was why, dude.

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What? Twitch was our YouTube MCN.

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I didn't even know that was like a thing back in the day. It basically wasn't.

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Pretty much wasn't. Oh, wow. Okay.

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Cool. Yeah. It was wild.

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We had, as far as I'm aware, the very first Twitch multi-stream agreement.

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Like multi-platform streaming carve out. When was that?

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Like 2013? Thousand years ago. Yeah.

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Okay. Probably then. Not 13, but not a long time after that.

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Okay. Yeah.

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Yeah. Super weird. I think we were the first with explicit permission to stream non-gaming content to the platform, too.

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I remember that. I remember you guys talking about that. Yeah.

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That's pretty cool. Co-figure. Who would have known you guys were the one that started the downfall of what Twitch is?

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Yeah, I know, right? We were one step away from like hot tubs and titties.

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To be fair, that is basically off the platform. Did you know my personal channel?

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I got a special carve out during that, too.

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Really? Yeah. Because of this show, I didn't actually really register how much not just playing games on

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Twitch was a problem. So I would just do other stuff all the time.

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It's like I worked on a car once. I would 3D, the worst, I got emailed about this and they're like, you're good.

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But I just want to let you know that this isn't supposed to be good.

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It was a message from that guy that I knew at the time.

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Yeah, the one with the giant dong. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. Because I would do 3D printing streams where I just have like a camera in the corner looking

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at the print for 24 hours.

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No host, no one there. Yeah, a lot of those aren't allowed.

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So what became, I guess, like sleeping streams, question mark?

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It's weird. I don't think you can do just idle 3D printing streams anymore.

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Yeah, I did that for a long time. That's crazy.

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One sec, I'm just logging into the thing.

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You guys ready to resume the selected?

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I guess. Did you update the title, Dan?

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Cool. If you're watching right now and have not refreshed your page and thus do not have

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the updated title. If your chat is broken on Flow Plane, sorry.

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There's not a realistic way it's going to be fixed for this week.

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So, so far we are monitoring Twitch chat until they lose their privileges.

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Yeah. Which is very, very, very likely to happen.

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God, what's our fallback going to be?

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What do you mean from Twitch? YouTube. Oh, how quickly are they going to lose their chat privileges?

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Facebook. Facebook? Okay, Facebook.

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That'll be our fallback.

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Bring back mixer. We could go back to Periscope.

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We could stream a fake AI stream to Facebook and they'd probably be like,

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yay. Why didn't they use ours?

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Yeah. Someone said we needed to be more slow.

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Well, you could be lengthened influencers after you find.

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Talk about it already. Okay. All right, we're doing this thing?

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Yep. Okay, I'm resuming the selected now.

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What is up, L's and G's?

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Welcome to the WAN Show. We've got, oh my God.

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Such a good show. Yeah, it's actually true. Actually such a good show.

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God! I have so much stuff that I'm excited to talk to you guys about.

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Yes. The two big ones are, of course.

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Valve opened the spigot, which is a type of Valve.

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Yeah. And unleashed upon the world with a truly earth-shattering

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bit of news for poor Mr. Luke Lafrenier,

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who just bought a VR headset that is not the Steam Frame.

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We'll talk about that. Also, the Steam Machine, the Steam Controller,

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which we need to talk about the name of.

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Okay, we need to talk about the name of the Steam Controller.

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In other news, Linus was here.

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Holy actual shit. And, and Luke got fucked over on that too.

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So hard. Literally. Actually.

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On Luke Lafrenier's birthday. Yeah.

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Linus came to our studio and Luke couldn't be here for it.

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And there was a way for it to have been avoided.

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I don't know anything about that. And it was not.

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It was not your fault. I don't know anything about that. I wasn't looking at you.

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I don't know anything about that. I'm just saying. I don't know about it.

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We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it.

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Microsoft. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on.

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It's the shopping season. And so I'm just going to, I'm going to jump out ahead of

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things a little bit. All right. We'll get you more topics.

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But first, lttstore.com, major focus for us this week.

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We've got our Buy More, Save More combo going right now.

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If you buy it, the more apparel you buy, the more discount you get up to 25% off.

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We have a holiday loot drop going on right now,

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where if you spend $100 or more, you can win a pair of Sennheiser HD.

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Does that, that says 550. I thought it was 560S, whatever.

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A pair of Sennheiser headphones, or if you're really lucky,

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an ASUS ROG Xbox Ally X. And, hey, we've got new products.

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I really like this one. Including the RGB sweater.

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Oh my God. We're going to need a closer look at this. There you go.

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You can see the little flex of RGB. It's 100% cotton knit with tiny, multi-nep yarn flex.

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Clean, polished look. Great for the office. While the colorful specs keep it fun for holiday hangouts.

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And we have, yes, that's right. We finally have beanies again.

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RGB beanies in black and gray in both regular and Linus lengths.

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There you go. See? So if you have a deeper head or if you have a shallower head,

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we got you. Warm, cozy, and ties right in with the rest of the RGB lineup.

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LMG.GG slash RGB. Okay, Luke, you got a couple topics.

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I do. First off, Taryn wore that RGB sweater to an event

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that we both went to. And I thought it looked really sharp

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and didn't actually realize it was ours until, like,

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a day or two ago. Anyways, Microsoft exec says Windows is evolving

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into an agentic operating system.

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You picked that? And gets cooked in the replay.

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No, the reason why I want to talk about this is because

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Windows is getting disunct right now.

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That's what all of the intro topics are about.

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It's Valve doing Linux stuff and Linux guy.

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You can't call him Linux guy. That is why he didn't want to meet you.

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Oh, wow.

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Speaking of not wanting to meet or something.

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I don't know. Another company that can't stop digging is Ubisoft.

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If I can find the topic about it. They have delayed their half-year earnings report

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and requested halted trading until its release,

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which is generally a bad sign.

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Oh, man. The Linux guy.

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You can't hang in there.

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How dare you?

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The show is brought to you today by Vessi.

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Oh, dude. Corsair and Odd Pieces.

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Alongside, of course, our RAP partner, D-Brand, our laptop partner,

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Della and our chair partner. Don't you dare. Secret.

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It's upside down, right? Nice.

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What do we want to do for? I mean, it's got to be Valve.

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It's got to be Valve. Dude, this guy was like dying

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because I saw him the day after the Valve event

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because we were both attending a thing that was farther down the West Coast.

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But for the first 10 hours,

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we were in mixed company. And I knew where he was.

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And I knew the potential level of importance of that.

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But we didn't even have a private moment

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for me to tell him what was launched. Basically, all I was able to tell him was

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things we expected, also something we didn't expect.

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Yeah, which got me most of the way there, but not the whole way there.

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Yeah. So when we were finally able to sit down at dinner

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and I was able to talk him through it, he's like,

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dude, this was the hardware launch of...

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I feel like this was our Apple Vision Pro.

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No, Apple Vision Pro was like the normie people's like,

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whoa, interesting. This is our, whoa, interesting.

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Yeah, in the VR space. But I would actually go back even farther than that.

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This for your IT, computer, gamer,

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someone who watches the WAN Show, that demographic right there.

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Sure. This is the most exciting launch since what?

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Maybe 30 series? RTX 30 series?

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And when I say 30 series, I'm not talking the bullshit like pricing that happened

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afterward with the COVID, silicon, all that stuff.

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I'm talking like when it launched. You probably remember where you were when you found out

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that the RTX 3080 was like 500 bucks or 600 bucks or whatever.

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And it was like the performance was huge over the

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uninspiring 20 series. Too bad, not real.

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Yeah. But we're talking, we're talking the initial news, right?

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Yeah. The initial news. Like can you, what else?

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What else would qualify here? Steam Deck was hype.

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That was four years ago now. Like it's been a desert dude.

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To me, this is more interesting than the initial

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Steam Deck announcement. And that might even sound a little bit surprising.

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But my reason for that is that this actually came with

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Steam Deck news kind of as a sidebar thing.

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And this to me, you know, we got the indication that this

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might have been a plan back when they first talked about

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Steam Machines forever ago. But this really shows that they're embracing like Valve

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hardware as an ecosystem, which is really cool.

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Very exciting. It's also super exciting that Steam Machine is coming

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Linux based with Steam OS.

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And it's just like the normalization of people using

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Linux all the time for things was already pretty big with

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the Steam Deck. But now it also being a Steam Machine for people that just

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want a console like experience because a bunch of people aren't going to care about handhelds.

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And that's cool. And a bunch of handheld people won't care about a console

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experience. And that's cool too. And that's also cool.

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So now that we have both, it's just awesome. It's very exciting. Why don't we run through the news for anyone that the

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handful of you that might have missed those somewhat

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large events this week. On a random Wednesday, Valve announced the Steam

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Machine, the Steam Frame and the Steam Controller.

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Let's start with the frame. This is their new standalone VR headset that's powered by

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a 4nm Snapdragon ARM CPU. It has 16 gigs of unified memory, Wi-Fi 7 2x2.

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And this is dual Wi-Fi 5 gigahertz and 6 gigahertz for

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streaming the VR video feed and for normal Wi-Fi.

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So you can like download games and stuff. Now hold on a second.

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I don't actually know that it is dual 6 gigahertz. That is in my notes.

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I don't remember them telling me that, but the way that

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they held the briefing made it not just possible, but

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likely for some media outlets to get information that

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either through just forgetfulness or not asking all the

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right probing questions others might not have.

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So yeah.

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Anyway, that may be true. It's in my notes. I don't remember them telling me that.

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Up to a terabyte of storage on board.

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The displays are 2160 by 2160 LCDs and range from 72 to 120

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hertz refresh rate with an experimental mode of 144 hertz

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just like the index. But in spite of it having onboard compute, you know, like a

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like a quest for instance from meta, it's so light.

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It's so wearable. It's so well balanced with the battery with the battery pack

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at the back. It's nice and tight to the face.

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Thanks to its pancake lenses. That's actually valves justification for using LCDs so

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that they can juice the brightness of the displays enough

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to overcome the losses from the pancake lenses.

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I'm I've only used it for a few minutes at this point because

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I was really busy like writing videos and shooting them and stuff while I was in there.

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So I'm going to really need to compare them side by side.

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But if I had to guess because yeah.

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So dual radios enable concurrent five gigahertz Wi-Fi and

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six gigahertz VR streaming. That's what I understood. Not what I said from my notes.

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Thank you for looking that up. No problem.

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What was I talking about just now? Something right LCDs.

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So I need to try it. I need to try this side by side with the big screen beyond

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two because that's got OLEDs, but it also has a tether.

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So a big part of what Valve is trying to do here is maintain

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power efficiency for this bloody thing, right?

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So I've seen a lot of people push back on Valve's justification

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for using LCD saying, well, other VR headsets use pancake

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lenses and OLED displays. And it's like, right, but how much power budget are they using

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to juice these OLED displays? It's also a cost factor to overcome it.

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There's a cost factor too. And that was a major concern that I had for the frame because

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as soon as I hear it's got a computer on it, I go, great, a

444
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,520
computer I don't care about that now I have to buy.

445
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,520
But man, is this thing ever cool? I might actually care about the computer.

446
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,520
And that is because of the effects compatibility layer that

447
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,520
Valve has been contributing to in order to speed up the

448
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:11,520
development. And that effects allows you to run x86 games on the local

449
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,520
ARM CPU, which is also running SteamOS.

450
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:19,520
These guys have been absolutely cooking over there.

451
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Of course, the most mind blowing part to me was when I heard

452
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,520
about foveated streaming.

453
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,520
So a big concern for me as soon as I heard that project

454
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,520
Deckard was going to be a standalone VR headset.

455
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,520
I was like, fuck, because Valve was the only one that was left

456
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:44,520
that was doing outside in proper freaking tracking that is

457
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:50,520
accurate and just fuck, right?

458
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,520
With a tether and high visual fidelity, everything else.

459
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Apple Vision Pro was going to using wireless streaming and the

460
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,520
Quest. You can use a wire. It's flaky.

461
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,520
You can stream wirelessly. But it's imperfect at best.

462
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,520
And so as soon as I found out it was standalone, I was like,

463
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:15,520
great. There goes the ecosystem for us people who care about accuracy

464
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,520
and well, yeah, accuracy low latency.

465
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,520
I originally fully agreed with you and had the exact same

466
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,520
reaction when I heard about Deckard. But these days with big screen, I'm less concerned because I

467
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,520
feel like they can be the champions of that. Well, we'll get to that.

468
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:39,520
Maybe not. But when Valve did the demo showing me their wireless streaming

469
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:45,520
with foveated streaming. So if you didn't watch the video, what it basically means is

470
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:51,520
that they are dynamically adjusting their use of the bit

471
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,520
rate that you have. Because your connection, your link speed is only whatever it

472
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:03,520
is, right? And so by focusing their use of their limited bit rate that

473
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,520
they have, because it's not a wired HDMI or DisplayPort

474
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,520
connection on the areas that your eyes are actually looking

475
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,520
at, actually focused on, they achieve a level of fidelity

476
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,520
that admittedly I wasn't looking at it side by side, but

477
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,520
that I could not discern from a wired connection.

478
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:29,520
And I couldn't see the, like I couldn't move my eyes fast

479
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,520
enough. We used a shot in the video of me looking around like this,

480
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,520
which is not how you would try to beat it, like you would try

481
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,520
to flick your eyes. The time it takes for my eyes to move to a new spot and

482
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,520
refocus is slower than the time it takes for them to track my

483
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,520
pupils and reallocate their streaming bit rate budget and

484
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,520
have that be the highest fidelity part of the scene.

485
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,520
I couldn't see it, Luke. Crazy.

486
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,520
We'll see. The proof's going to be in the longer term use.

487
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,520
I was only able to play Half-Life Alyx, which admittedly I

488
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,520
didn't enjoy that much. I didn't really get through it. I didn't mention that to them.

489
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,520
The other big one that I was concerned about as someone who

490
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:18,520
has enjoyed full body tracking in the past was Beat Saber.

491
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,520
So I've streamed Beat Saber with ankle and waist trackers in

492
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:28,520
addition to my hand and head trackers. And I was really concerned about both the ability to move

493
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,520
my hands fast enough without losing tracking, using

494
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:37,520
camera-based tracking. So far, it looks like they have invested heavily enough in

495
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,520
the onboard processing on the controllers, as well as in

496
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,520
quality, quality inside out tracking cameras.

497
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520
And the positioning is such that you can get pretty far back

498
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,520
before you actually lose tracking that it looks like that won't be an issue.

499
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,520
As for whether you can use base stations with your older

500
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,520
tracker devices, I've seen quite a few people ask about that.

501
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:04,520
I don't know yet, but that is going to be one of the first things that I'm going to try once I have a frame in hand.

502
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,520
So like, this thing is wild. It's so, it's the versatility.

503
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,520
The fact that I can get as far as I can tell, I wouldn't say

504
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,520
zero compromises because it isn't an OLED.

505
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:23,520
But a low compromise PC VR experience now with no tether.

506
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:30,520
Wow. The fact that I can run games locally on this thing, right?

507
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,520
Lighter games, obviously. VR titles and play those is wow.

508
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,520
And then the fact that I can play everything from like,

509
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:45,520
literal like PC games to media on just a giant screen like I

510
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,520
might do with something like an Apple vision pro is triple.

511
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,520
Wow. Like it's, it's, it's awesome.

512
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,520
And literally every criticism that I've seen of it so far, I

513
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,520
either fully understand why Valve made the choice that they

514
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,520
did and I can, and I can, I can, I can agree with their

515
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,520
justification, even if I might have done it differently.

516
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,520
Or I think the criticism is just frankly stupid.

517
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,520
Um, like man, I don't understand how in the year,

518
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,520
and I'm about to offend some people, I think, but I don't

519
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,520
understand how in the year 2025, you can somehow not be aware

520
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,520
of nickel metal hydride AA cells.

521
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,520
Oh, I can definitely imagine how.

522
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:40,520
How? How would most people outside of this, this group that's

523
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,520
watching this or other similar content have ran into that?

524
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,520
Because disposable batteries are so f***ing expensive.

525
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:54,520
You'd think they'd look for an alternative. I don't think a lot of people run into disposable batteries in

526
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,520
their day to day. Dude, you've been to a Costco lately?

527
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,520
You see how big the pallets of disposable batteries are? People are buying the crap out of these things and all they had

528
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,520
to do is go buy like eight N loops and a charger and then never

529
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:13,520
buy one again. Grabbing the ones at Costco or grabbing the pack from like Ikea

530
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,520
and just not thinking about it ever because they throw it in

531
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,520
their TV remote and then it lasts for like two years or longer.

532
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,520
But double A is going all kinds of things.

533
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,520
Kids toys, Xbox controllers, adult toys.

534
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Yeah, exactly.

535
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,520
Maybe people just aren't being super economical about their adult toys.

536
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,520
Use them less. Dude, it's wild to me.

537
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,520
Like you can, yeah. Okay. So one person here says, yeah, the disposables last longer in

538
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,520
the device. Like my God, who cares?

539
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:55,520
Yes, it's a little bit longer. But literally if you factor in the time to walk down the aisle

540
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,520
and go get the stupid batteries you've already accounted for,

541
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,520
the extra time that you'll use changing the batteries slightly

542
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,520
more often, like it really is not that big of a deal, especially

543
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,520
in low usage devices.

544
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,520
But they're so expensive. Buy one.

545
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,520
Dude, I have enolubes in my house that I've had for 10 years.

546
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,520
Oh yeah. That have been through probably 50 recharge cycles.

547
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:25,520
They still work. Like can people just not throw literally throw away money?

548
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,520
Like this is for your own good.

549
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,520
Go buy some nickel metal hydride batteries.

550
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,520
What? Why is this funny?

551
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,520
It's just that whole sentence. Go buy some nickel batteries.

552
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520
It's just such a funny sentence. We don't even offer them.

553
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,520
Not for months. Just buy it from someone. This is really funny.

554
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,520
I'm sorry. Fluff.

555
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,520
I don't disagree with you. Twitch is going to lose their chat privileges pretty quickly.

556
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,520
DRSL will never sponsor us again. I don't even disagree with you.

557
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,520
Linus, do you know what's expensive rechargeable batteries? Yeah, one time.

558
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,520
One time. Buy ones, cry ones.

559
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,520
Yes. You can recharge it like 50 times.

560
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,520
100 times. Do they cost 50 times as much?

561
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,520
I'll let you do that. Actually, no, I'm not going to let you do the math because you're a f***ing idiot.

562
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,520
No, they don't cost 50 times as much.

563
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Go buy rechargeable batteries. You can thank me later.

564
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,520
We're losing all our time.

565
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,520
That's so mad.

566
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,520
First time. Dying here.

567
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,520
I mean, I generally pretty much agree with all of that. The only thing I don't agree with is like how do people not realize it?

568
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,520
It's like, I mean, it's pretty obvious.

569
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Consumers, man. At the stores they're shopping at, in a lot of cases, they're just not there.

570
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,520
Linus just forgets that he's the smartest person in the room at all times.

571
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,520
He's just so overwhelmingly intelligent. That's the problem.

572
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,520
I'm not that smart.

573
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,520
I hate being the smartest person in a room. There's a really hard time buying helmets.

574
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,520
Have you tried huffing paint more often? Sounds like a good hobby for someone like you.

575
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,520
Good Friday night. I know what I'm doing after the show to deal with Twitch chat.

576
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:20,520
I'm dying. Now, to be clear, to be clear, to be clear, there are situations where an alkaline makes more sense.

577
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,520
So, like, I keep alkalines in my house as well.

578
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,520
So, for instance...

579
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,520
For instance...

580
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Oh, my God, this is going all over Reddit. Low-end kids toys.

581
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,520
I will tip... Can I talk?

582
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,520
I feel like you. Can I just talk without being interrupted?

583
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,520
I'm not even saying anything!

584
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,520
Your judgment speaks very loudly.

585
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,520
I can't believe you would give a horrible experience to your children.

586
00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Ruin the next generation. So, for low-end kids toys, where I think it's very likely that we're going to end up donating it

587
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,520
before we even run through an entire battery cycle,

588
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,520
I don't want to risk losing my expensive rechargeable batteries.

589
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,520
So, there are situations where I'll throw an alkaline into something,

590
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,520
because I'm just like, yeah, this is very likely to be lost.

591
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Because, like, for certain toys, it literally will double the value of that thing

592
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,520
and put a couple rechargeable batteries in it. Like, I'd not forget to throw alkalines in there.

593
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,520
And there are devices, particularly super high-draw ones,

594
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,520
that actually don't run properly on rechargeables.

595
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:39,520
There are devices that don't respond well to the lower voltage range of rechargeable batteries.

596
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,520
Sorry, not you.

597
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,520
You're going to lose your chat privileges. You're going to lose your chat privileges.

598
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,520
You're going to lose your chat privileges, all of you.

599
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,520
I have to moderate. I have to read them.

600
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Now, you're stuck with them, too. This is what it's like every Friday.

601
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,520
So, the cards are really funny. There's also a lot of names from Flo-Plain that are hanging out.

602
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,520
Yeah. Sorry about the chat. I reduced slow mode as well, just to make it worse on everyone.

603
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,520
Okay, look. The point is...

604
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Oh, Flo-Plain China is back. That one of the biggest criticisms...

605
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,520
By Twitch. I'm coming back on topic here.

606
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,520
One of the... Twitch is back. Oh, cool.

607
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,520
You know what? Twitch chat hasn't lost their privileges yet.

608
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,520
They can keep it from now.

609
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,520
The problem is... Sorry, the biggest complaint that I've seen about the frame

610
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,520
is the AA battery in the controllers.

611
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:41,520
And that was pretty wild to me, especially as someone who has Knuckles controllers and an index

612
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,520
and has experienced forgetting to charge the integrated lithium battery

613
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,520
and then had to charge for 10 minutes, play for 15 minutes,

614
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:56,520
charge for 10 minutes, play for 15 minutes. That is not a better experience than just having a little quad-cell charger

615
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,520
somewhere near your VR headset, and then just popping your dead battery into it,

616
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,520
grabbing a freshly charged one, popping it into the controller, and then being ready to go for another full charge cycle.

617
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:13,520
It is actually objectively faster to get back up and running,

618
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,520
and the weight of a AA cell, yeah, I can see people not being that into it,

619
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,520
because they have to have a big metal housing around them

620
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:27,520
compared to just a pack-style lithium battery...

621
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,520
Excuse me, pouch-style was the word I was looking for.

622
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Yeah, I don't love having the extra weight, but for the convenience of being able to quickly swap a battery,

623
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,520
I think it is well worth it, and it is...

624
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,520
I mean, let's face it, this thing is not going to be cheap.

625
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,520
Is there a price out there? No.

626
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,520
Is there a price out there on any of this? No. But Valve did...

627
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:55,520
Make some nudges, some indications? Yeah, they did indicate sort of what they were targeting,

628
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,520
and I think the goal was for it to be not more expensive than index.

629
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:06,520
So the headset itself is loaded up to the gills with expensive tech,

630
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,520
but you don't need base stations, so that helps, I guess,

631
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,520
and then we'll see where the chips fall in terms of pricing,

632
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,520
but I wouldn't be surprised to see $9.99.

633
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,520
I wouldn't be surprised to see the same price as an index.

634
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,520
Or rather... Shoot, what's the index?

635
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,520
What's the index go for in the States? Index price in USD.

636
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,520
Oh, shoot. Yeah, you have to say valve index,

637
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,520
otherwise you just end up with all kinds of other things. $9.99.

638
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,520
$9.99, okay. For the kit. I did get that right.

639
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,520
Okay. But I mean, essentially... Just the headset is $6.59?

640
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,520
But you're not going to be able to buy this without the kit, so...

641
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:48,520
The headset and controllers is... Oh, wait, what?

642
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,520
Oh! What's up? If you want the whole thing,

643
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,520
so headset controllers, base stations, all that,

644
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,520
it's $13.19. Oh, Canadian.

645
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,520
Yeah, Canadian. So that's a grand. Yeah.

646
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,520
Okay. All right.

647
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,520
What are we even... Oh, yeah. Wow, we're still talking about the valve announcements.

648
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,520
Sure are. Yeah, Elijah's never going home. He's actually here to talk about the other big news from this week.

649
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,520
Sure is. Linus X, Linus.

650
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,520
But I mean, we can't move on from the frame without talking about

651
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,520
how much buyer's remorse you must be feeling right now.

652
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,520
I don't know. So he just... I don't know.

653
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Like two months ago, bought a big screen beyond two.

654
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,520
Well, I bought it before then. I just received it somewhere around there.

655
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,520
Have you fired it up yet? No, I still don't have a functional dwelling.

656
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,520
So by the time you actually get to use your big screen beyond two...

657
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,520
It might be halfway through 2026.

658
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,520
We'll see. The frame... What?

659
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,520
I'm kidding. Oh, okay. The frame could literally be like imminently available.

660
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,520
Oh, yeah. How do you feel about that, sir?

661
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,520
I don't know. That is such a...

662
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,520
This is a podcast. The big screen beyond is still really cool.

663
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,520
You can't just say, I don't know. The big screen beyond is still really cool.

664
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,520
I don't know how much regret I'm going to feel.

665
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,520
I feel like I actually might end up with both of them, which might sound insane.

666
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,520
Oh, I was about to make a joke about how the regret could be kind of

667
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520
tugging on you a little bit.

668
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,520
Because honestly, I think that's the biggest downside.

669
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,520
There are still advantages to the beyond two.

670
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,520
OLED displays. Yes. It is smaller and lighter.

671
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,520
Better light seal because it's bespoke.

672
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,520
The light seal is incredible. Literally perfect.

673
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,520
Yeah. Literally perfect. Very comfortable as well.

674
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,520
Yeah, I don't know if it's as good as the frame.

675
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,520
Yeah, tough. It depends on how long you're wearing it.

676
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,520
Have you actually worn it for doing anything physical?

677
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,520
No. So the beyond because it has a rubbery type of material, like a silicone...

678
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,520
It's still literally here. It's in a box on my desk.

679
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,520
I'm so sorry. Because it uses that material, you end up with what I call swamp eye a little bit.

680
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,520
Because it's not breathable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

681
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,520
Whereas the deck uses a more breathable style material and it has gaps.

682
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,520
You can kind of look down and see where you're going with the deck.

683
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,520
Not that you should. You should just use the pass-through cameras, obviously.

684
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,520
Yeah. But you can't. With a hot take, black and white, totally fine.

685
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:34,520
Oh, I don't even care. Who cares? Dude, oh man, I had someone come at me in the comments because I criticized it for not being

686
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,520
able to walk around with the camera pass-through. I was like, bro, I'm joking.

687
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,520
Yeah. I was taking a shot at Apple Vision Pro people who were walking around with their stupid

688
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,520
headsets on for the first couple of weeks. Oh, your comment like...

689
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,520
Yeah. I was like, oh yeah, I don't know. I don't even know if it was a couple of weeks.

690
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,520
Yeah, a week. It was the first few days when that stopped pretty quick.

691
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,520
Yeah. Yeah, I don't really care about the black and white cameras.

692
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:06,520
This, to me, feels like I have a seated or near computer experience, which is like really

693
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:16,520
dialed, but might take some setup time, move things out of the way, do stuff like that,

694
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,520
and then really settle into this nice dialed, tethered experience.

695
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,520
Then the frame, the frame's interesting for a bunch of reasons to me.

696
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,520
I almost want a travel box for it.

697
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,520
I would use the crap out of the frame on the road.

698
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,520
Yeah. Being able to play some Beat Saber.

699
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,520
Oh yeah. Anywhere. Because I actually...

700
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,520
On the plane. I'm looking forward to trying this so much.

701
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,520
I have a Strix Halo laptop. Yeah.

702
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Oh yeah. Is this enough for me to load up all my mods?

703
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,520
Probably. Play VR games? Probably.

704
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:59,520
I mean, it's got a USB port, so theoretically I've got my six gigahertz wireless.

705
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,520
Dude, the frame packs... I didn't actually talk about that in the...

706
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,520
I should start adding some stuff from my notes for the stuff to talk about for the full review,

707
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:13,520
but I didn't actually really talk about how tightly it packs up.

708
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:21,520
Yeah. That's something I was genuinely wondering about, because the ability to be portable with

709
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,520
this thing is actually very interesting to me.

710
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,520
I'm excited about this in regards to...

711
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,520
I don't know, people are going to be like, oh, you've been able to do this the whole time

712
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,520
with the Quest 3. I didn't love the Quest 3 experience.

713
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Don't love who the Quest 3 comes from. I think that's the...

714
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,520
The second one is the bigger one for me, because apparently the software's gotten a lot better

715
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,520
since we reviewed it. Sure it has. They've like...

716
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:51,520
Apparently. I'm just going based on comments on the frame video, but apparently it's improved a shocking

717
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,520
amount for software updates.

718
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,520
It might be worth me checking it out again as part of this.

719
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,520
Actually, I'm going to add that.

720
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Cool. Now that's on there.

721
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,520
Cool. Yeah. I don't know.

722
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,520
I think my... I feel like this is it.

723
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,520
I don't feel like there's another experience that is going to be this good.

724
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:23,520
I might not feel as strong as it did in the past, but I think they're going to be different.

725
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:30,520
I think they're going to be quite different. I don't necessarily think I'm actually going to have the much regret right now, having never

726
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,520
actually tried the one that I bought and clearly never tried the one that's coming.

727
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,520
But that's my hunch right now.

728
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Yeah. You want to talk Steam Machine? Are you done with Frame?

729
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,520
I think we can talk Steam Machine. Yeah.

730
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,520
I'm the wireless streaming dude.

731
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,520
It blew me away. I get to have PC VR wirelessly.

732
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Wow. Oh no, there was the last thing.

733
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,520
What's going to happen to the ecosystem?

734
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,520
Could big screen carry on manufacturing base stations, for instance?

735
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,520
At this time, Valve does not appear to have any partnerships in place for anyone to continue

736
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,520
to produce base stations or knuckles controllers.

737
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:22,520
I did say they were open to it. With that said, I have direct contact information for multiple people at Valve.

738
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,520
They are not always the easiest to work with.

739
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:32,520
So just because they're open to it does not necessarily mean that anything will happen.

740
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:38,520
I'm not going to have my hopes up until I see concrete action on it.

741
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,520
It's not a shot. It's not a shot at them.

742
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,520
That you got to understand, Valve is a very small company.

743
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,520
I mean, head count-wise is actually somewhat true.

744
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:56,520
Yes. Which I only mentioned because that excuse was made for some stuff.

745
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,520
I was like, okay. Sure.

746
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:08,520
Sure. To be clear, I'm very grateful that they were able to bring us out to check out the new hardware.

747
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:16,520
I'm very excited about the new hardware and I am extremely excited to learn more as I

748
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:24,520
get to explore it. I'm hoping that we're going to have access prior to the actual launch date so that when launch

749
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:31,520
day comes, we can bring you guys really detailed, okay, but no, answering all the questions,

750
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,520
like thick reviews of all of this stuff.

751
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,520
Because it's basically game-changing across the board, which I guess brings us perfectly

752
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:44,520
to the Steam Machine. It's a new mini PC that's boasting roughly six times the performance of the Steam Deck

753
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:52,520
powered by an AMD 6-core Zen 4 CPU, a GPU that is a semi-custom design, but as far as

754
00:53:52,520 --> 00:54:00,520
I can tell, this pretty much comes down more to power profile tuning and firmware and drivers,

755
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:09,520
right? The actual silicon appears to be more customized in the sense that AMD is going, okay, so you

756
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:15,520
want to fuse off this and not that and tune your power profile.

757
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:27,520
It's not brand new silicon. 16 gigs of Sodium DDR5 memory, 8 gigs of GDDR6 VRAM, and either 512 gig or 2 terabyte SSDs,

758
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:33,520
but the SSD is upgradable to a 2280, so you could throw up to an 8 terabyte drive with

759
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,520
current NAND densities.

760
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,520
The big deal is, of course, that it runs SteamOS.

761
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:45,520
Yeah. Linux out of the box and comes with the new Steam Controller.

762
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:51,520
It uses TMR analog sticks, has an Xbox-style layout with a PlayStation analog stick layout

763
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:56,520
to make room for the two haptic track pads on the bottom, similar to the Steam Deck.

764
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,520
How did it feel to hold? It looks a little wild.

765
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:05,520
In my smaller hands, I would say not the most ergonomic controller I've ever held.

766
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,520
It did give me, obviously, not the same, but it did give me like Duke vibes a little bit.

767
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:16,520
Not quite. Yeah, okay. It's, she's not so thick like the Duke.

768
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:23,520
But like tall? She's, she's just, she's just, you know, she's girthy, but not thick, you know?

769
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,520
Like she's, like she's, she's wide, you know?

770
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:32,520
Oh, this way. You know, she's just, well, no, she's just, she's ample.

771
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,520
Okay. I'd say she's ample.

772
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:40,520
Was that not a characteristic of the Duke? Yeah, but, you know, well, the Duke was fat.

773
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,520
Okay. The Steam Controller's ample.

774
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,520
Okay. Yeah. Sure.

775
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,520
Yeah. Sure. I don't mean like pH fat.

776
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,520
The Duke was FAT. I think I'm just going to wait till I try it myself.

777
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,520
When I was looking at it, I thought that's probably going to be fine for me to be honest.

778
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,520
I'm actually pretty excited about it. Yeah.

779
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:06,520
I thought the original Steam Controller was really cool. This one seems more versatile, which is neat, although to be completely honest, if you can

780
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:12,520
afford it, I feel like the, the play is going to be to have a normal controller and then

781
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,520
just maybe also your Steam Controller. Yeah.

782
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,520
Because the touch pads on Steam Controller will be nice sometimes. Yeah.

783
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:24,520
And super cool. Yeah. And they are going to just daily the crap out of the touch pads.

784
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,520
Which is great. Yeah. Obviously there will be certain games that will play a lot better that way.

785
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,520
Particularly for old dogs that don't want to learn new tricks, a more traditional controller

786
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:38,520
and man, there's, there's so many great, super cool, innovative controllers out there.

787
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:43,520
Yeah. Like after doing that controller tier list video with David where we did the whole like

788
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:49,520
playoff, man, I don't, I don't think you can get away with having a top of the line controller

789
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,520
anymore that doesn't have adjustable tension on the analog sticks.

790
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,520
Like it's just, it was so game changing.

791
00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:01,520
Yeah. For me anyway, that I was just like, well, everything else is basic now.

792
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,520
And that doesn't mean that I necessarily, you know, want to go and replace every controller

793
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:10,520
in my house with those, in some cases, quite expensive aftermarket controllers.

794
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,520
But little brother controllers are the big brother controller now.

795
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,520
It's, it's not the way that it used to be where first party was king.

796
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:24,520
What is cool about the steam controller though is each of their puck wireless dongles supports

797
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:30,520
up to four of them and steam will support up to four pucks, meaning 16 controllers to

798
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:35,520
one machine making for hassle free 10 player tape to tape, which is all that I really care

799
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:44,520
about as far as that goes. There's a lot more to break down once we actually, you know, finish reviewing these devices.

800
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,520
And there's actually more details in the two main channel LTT videos that we have up on

801
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:55,520
these devices. You guys can go check those out. But in the meantime, I want to talk about pricing for the steam machine.

802
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:03,520
Actually, no, what I want you guys to do chat is let me know what you would pay for it.

803
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:08,520
So basically it's a, it's a 7600 CPU and a 7600 GPU.

804
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,520
This is not a super powerful machine.

805
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:19,520
Valve is upfront saying that they are going to be relying on FSR in order to achieve 4k.

806
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:27,520
And even then, man, like eight gigs VRAM, anyone else would be taking a ton of flak for

807
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,520
shipping a game console today with eight gigs of VRAM.

808
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,520
Yeah. So we've got a lot of people talking pricing in here.

809
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:42,520
I'm going to, I'm going to read these. 600, 600, 600, 600, 600, 350, 800, maybe 600, a thousand.

810
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:47,520
You're crazy. Uh, 500 tops or DOA to 50 PS5.

811
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:53,520
So like 500 to 600, uh, 599, 699, 500.

812
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,520
Okay.

813
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,520
A lot of 500 to 600. I don't think so.

814
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,520
I can't tell you what the price will be because I literally don't know.

815
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:13,520
But when I said, you know, I'm disappointed that it isn't going to follow a console pricing model

816
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,520
where it's subsidized by the fact that, you know,

817
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:22,520
the manufacturer is going to be taking 30% of every game sold on it over the lifespan of this thing.

818
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:27,520
Um, because I feel that would be a more meaningful product.

819
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:33,520
Um, and they kind of asked what I meant by, well, what do you mean by console price?

820
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,520
And I said, well, $500.

821
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:43,520
Nobody said anything, but the energy of the room wasn't great.

822
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,520
So... Oh, a console isn't 500 bucks.

823
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:51,520
Maybe that's why. I mean...

824
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,520
PS5 Pro is 700. Yeah. The PS5 Pro.

825
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,520
But we're talking the Pro. PS5 Pro is markedly more powerful than the Steam Machine.

826
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,520
So PS5 Pro, Radeon equivalent.

827
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,520
I think it's more equivalent to like a 7700.

828
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,520
I don't follow consoles enough. Let me have a look. Let me have a look.

829
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:15,520
So that is more equivalent to a 7700 XT.

830
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:20,520
And then the base PS5 is about an RX 6700.

831
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,520
So the base PS5 is closer to the Steam Machine in terms of performance.

832
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,520
With that said, you know, it's not like the Steam Machine, even if it's at $600 or $700,

833
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,520
isn't going to have any justification for it.

834
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,520
The disk drive PS5 non-Pro is $550.

835
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,520
Does the Steam Machine have a disk drive? No.

836
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,520
Okay, then. Well, I don't think so.

837
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,520
It has a lot of other stuff going on though. Yeah, I mean, compared to a PlayStation.

838
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,520
Yeah, you can use it as a computer, but I think a lot of people won't.

839
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,520
And the fact that Valve is shipping this thing with a controller tells me that this is...

840
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,520
A controller with touch pads on it. And all but one demo.

841
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:05,520
All but one demo that they had in their big like demo room was it hooked up to a TV.

842
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,520
Like it wasn't... They had the one where it was hooked up to a monitor.

843
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:14,520
I expect people to hook up to TVs, for sure. Right. I still just think it's not completely equivalent.

844
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:19,520
I mean... I'm not surprised it would be more expensive.

845
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,520
I think it honestly makes sense that it would probably be more expensive.

846
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,520
There's not... Which one would be more expensive?

847
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,520
The Steam Machine. What is it adding?

848
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:39,520
It's a computer. Sure. How much are you going to compute from your couch?

849
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,520
I can definitely see people using it in that way.

850
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,520
And I can see that being a value add for people and it being more expensive because of that.

851
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,520
Sure. I'm not saying I understand why the pricing might work that way.

852
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,520
I'm not saying it's good. When you were saying there's more to it, I thought you meant there's like more hardware

853
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,520
that I'm not accounting for that would make it like the cost higher.

854
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,520
It's a different device. Sure.

855
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,520
Yeah. Yeah. It's a different device.

856
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,520
But you know, for me the question is like from a performance standpoint, the biggest

857
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,520
justification for what I'm going to hook up to my TV.

858
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,520
I'm not computing. I'm gaming. I'm gaming from my couch.

859
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,520
So the biggest justification to me is that I can take advantage of Steam Sales.

860
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,520
I don't have to buy things in the PlayStation Store.

861
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,520
If it's going to be more expensive, that's the more meaningful.

862
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,520
There are benefits to it being a compute device on your TV for sure.

863
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,520
Sure. I think saying no to that is crazy. I mean, hit me.

864
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,520
Like what? You can pirate things. Okay.

865
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,520
But I can't watch like proper HDR Netflix because it's Linux.

866
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,520
I mean, you could. It would be annoying, but you could.

867
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,520
You can. Is that supported now? Because I'm not aware of it.

868
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,520
You could virtual machine over if you cared.

869
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,520
HDR? Because you have a... With what streaming platform?

870
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,520
Sorry. What? Like watching HDR?

871
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,520
Like, like DRM protected HDR Netflix?

872
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,520
No. You can't do that through Windows? Not...

873
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,520
If you boot Windows through anyways? Sure.

874
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:08,520
But then now you're buying a Windows license. Oh, sure. You're pirating things, so you can't pirate the easiest thing to pirate?

875
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,520
I mean, at this point, you're basically making the argument of like just going in...

876
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,520
Like you're taking this... We're talking about a console right now.

877
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,520
I mean, at the point of what you... We're not.

878
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,520
That's my point. At the point of what you're talking about, go build a PC and then just hide it behind

879
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,520
your media console. I mean, in a lot of ways, yeah.

880
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,520
Well, right, but that's not what we're talking about. Except that's what they're selling.

881
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,520
Sort of. Actually. Were you there?

882
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,520
No. Okay. So that's not really the messaging.

883
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,520
Okay. It's part of it. So it projects that it's not a console.

884
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:45,520
It's specifically not a console. It's not a console, but what it is, is it is designed for a very console-like experience.

885
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,880
Totally. It will do that and more stuff, which is my point.

886
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,240
I don't really... I'm actually having a hard time kind of following along here.

887
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:59,040
But basically where we started was I went, hey, I don't really think that there's a lot

888
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:05,720
here that would justify four years later why this thing would be priced like a four-year-old

889
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:12,640
PlayStation 5, and if you kind of go, yeah, there's more utility and it being open, it's

890
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:18,600
like, yeah, but at that point, yeah, you could just build a PC and flash a Steam OS image

891
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,920
on it. Yeah, and they said it will be very competitively priced with PCs.

892
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,720
So you could do that, or you could buy this thing, you could do either one.

893
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:37,360
Yeah, there's a value to a very significant portion of the population to a more seamless

894
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:42,200
console experience, and what you're describing is not that.

895
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,720
Sure. That's like the DIY PC thing.

896
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:53,840
But if I can do both, then if I have that level of knowledge, I don't actually need

897
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,200
Valve to bring this to me. I could have done that already.

898
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,120
I could do that today. So that's kind of where I'm getting a little bit confused here.

899
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,880
Is the boot with your home theater system thing, something that's easily done by end

900
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,200
users? On a DIY PC?

901
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:18,440
So this is cool. Someone flagged for me, apparently there's a USB dongle that can add CEC to any off-the-shelf

902
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:22,360
computer. I have not validated this, but that's on my list of stuff.

903
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,800
I've never heard of that personally. I've never heard of that. It's on my list.

904
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:31,000
It's got a few upvotes. So that's on my list of stuff to validate for the full review of the Steam machine,

905
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,760
because that's a really important sort of... That sounds cool.

906
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:40,700
Yeah. That's a really important element of if you were trying to build the exact same functionality

907
01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:45,040
on your own, what would you have to do? This should be a video.

908
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:50,520
You should try to beat. You should try to beat. You should install Steam OS on it.

909
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,520
Cool. Sounds good.

910
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,400
Yes, of course.

911
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:03,080
But that has to be part of the calculation, right? And you got to go buy a good controller.

912
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,960
Like you can't just buy the cheapest controller and say, oh, well, I have a controller, therefore

913
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:13,600
I am feature equivalent. You could just buy a Steam controller.

914
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,520
You mean the old one? Can you not buy the new one? Well, not yet.

915
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,520
We're going to do this. We're going to do it first. Got it.

916
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,560
So basically the title's going to be I Couldn't Wait, So I Built My Own Steam Machine. I'm going to use the old chassis.

917
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:29,360
Do you wait until the pricing comes out and then try to match the pricing?

918
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,800
Or are you just going to look at the specs and see what price you can make it for and

919
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,280
then kind of beat them to the pricing conversation? That would be really interesting.

920
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,760
I don't know because I think there's multiple ways that we can tackle it.

921
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,920
The one that I built for myself is actually going to be more powerful.

922
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:47,080
I'm a little disappointed in the specs to be just completely black.

923
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:57,720
I mean, I think that's pretty fair. A PlayStation 5 today for more than like $500, $600, I'm not excited.

924
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,000
It's okay, but it's not exciting to me.

925
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:08,000
To me, the exciting part is just SteamOS on more pieces of hardware that are being sold

926
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,000
to people. Yeah. And that's cool.

927
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:16,760
And, you know, I'm still, you know, four years later, very excited for SteamOS to become

928
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,520
a more mainstream thing that's easier to install on a wide range of hardware and all

929
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:28,280
that stuff. But in terms of like what I need in my life, if it doesn't come with aggressive pricing,

930
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,200
and it was a little surprising to me that it wasn't going to be priced like a console

931
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:36,960
because the Steam Deck pretty much was and still is.

932
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:43,800
You look at it compared to, you know, the Ionios and the ROG allies of the world and

933
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,200
they are undercutting them significantly.

934
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:52,680
But Valve made the strategic decision in this case not to do custom silicon that would yield

935
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:57,880
them a large savings over a very large volume product, which tells me, you know, a couple

936
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:03,600
of things. One is that they don't necessarily know if this is going to be a high volume product.

937
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:09,320
This or it tells me that they don't even want to interfere with the ecosystem, which,

938
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:14,880
you know, was part of the conversation that we had, even though they couldn't give me like firm reasons around everything.

939
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:21,080
Interesting. Yeah. I mean, they've had much stronger partnerships with especially PlayStation, but also Xbox

940
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:27,320
recently. So maybe they're like kind of semi-joining the space, but trying to do it in a fairly

941
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:32,120
friendly way. And that would be true to the original vision for Steam Machine.

942
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:38,520
Like if you recall, Steam Machine, the one that I have, the like prototype, like one,

943
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,280
that was not a real product. They launched with partners like Alienware.

944
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,880
You could make it in that box. Of course I am.

945
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:50,080
Come on, man. Come on. By the way, I just looked this up.

946
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:57,960
I don't know if it's the same one that got linked to you. There's a few threads that I found talking about it and somebody already said that it

947
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,160
like works with Steam Deck. Oh, interesting.

948
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:07,240
And apparently it advertises somewhere that it's like compatible with macOS.

949
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,960
Oh, now they say Linux. Okay. Point O is a disappointment.

950
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,600
So I'll have to look around. There might also be other ones. I don't know.

951
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,880
I'll have to see what's out there, but that's definitely something that we'd have to factor

952
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:26,920
in. Yeah. Someone in Twitch chat just said, Dark Horse said, Pulse 8, yeah, these guys are legit.

953
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:33,360
And I've seen a few threads talking about them. Maybe they have a different one that's not, you know, 2.0a anymore.

954
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:39,400
I don't know, man. I'm excited for the idea of the year of the Linux desktop.

955
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:43,360
What I'm not excited about is it not having a console like price.

956
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:48,760
And the other thing that's great about consoles is the way that they tend to plummet in value.

957
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,920
Yeah, this will have that problem, I suspect.

958
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,160
Well, no, no, no, I don't think it will. Really?

959
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:59,880
Because it's a PC. I just, the reason why I think so is just because it's like already slow and old.

960
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,880
You think so? Okay. That'll be.

961
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:09,960
People don't like people calling it slow and old. Hubs sort of under fire for calling it, I think, slow and old or something like that.

962
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:18,560
Really? Yeah. As a new, as a device that's coming out next year, that feels based on what we expect the

963
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:25,000
price will be, that feels true to me. Mr. Faray, USB 2, did I say USB 2 was a disappointment?

964
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:32,280
I meant HDMI 2 was a disappointment. I'd like it to be 2.1 at this point, that dongle.

965
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,800
The USB doesn't matter. All right.

966
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:43,400
No, okay. So to be clear, that 2,500K system that I mentioned on, I think last Wanshow is playing

967
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:48,880
Arc Raiders right now. So being old doesn't necessarily even mean that big of a deal.

968
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,720
I just think. Well, it's not the CPU I'm worried about. Exactly.

969
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:59,760
It's that 7,600 8-gig GPU, and the fact that Valve is even talking about 4K on it.

970
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:09,120
In fairness to them. They attach that to upscaling. They are being very upfront that they mean with FSR, which basically means not 4K.

971
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:18,560
Not actually, yeah. But we are probably, what, two years now from PlayStation 6, which means we're probably

972
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:25,320
three to four years from games that are actually going to leverage PlayStation 6 hardware,

973
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:30,880
meaning that Valve has kind of like a half a console generation before they can't, with

974
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:37,600
a straight face, say, yeah, it'll run basically high-end games on Steam at 4K 60 FPS with

975
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,760
FSR, because all the FSR in the world is not going to make a PlayStation 6 game run.

976
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,720
It just sucks that that's going to be true for such a short period of time, like you're saying.

977
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:53,480
Yeah, exactly. But Mr. Nick88 in Twitch chat did also say, quote from Valve engineer, Yazan Alda Hayat,

978
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:56,480
I think. I hope. Sure.

979
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:59,720
The Steam machine is equal to or better than what 70% of people have at home.

980
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:05,520
And that's an interesting comment, because it's not...

981
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:12,880
It's so open that it will, like if I think about the types of games that I'm usually going

982
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:20,120
to want to be playing on my TV, it will probably be fine for a significantly longer period

983
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:24,200
of time. The crap out of Castle Crashers on your Steam machine.

984
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,320
Exactly. Most like couch co-op things. What's that RV game?

985
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,320
Moving out. Oh no. That's the different one.

986
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,360
RV there yet. Yeah. That game, I'm sure, it'll run completely fine.

987
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,600
But also moving out, you know, overcooked, like...

988
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,040
Yeah. All those games will be no problem for basically like ever.

989
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:47,080
What's that Mario Party clone, but like more violent? You know the one I'm talking about, right?

990
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,080
He would know. Pummel Party. Yeah, Pummel Party.

991
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,680
That's going to run on it. No problem, right?

992
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,520
So to be clear, I'm not saying it's like bad. No.

993
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:03,720
I'm just saying that compared to a PlayStation 5, which I can literally get on Facebook

994
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,120
Marketplace for like, what did I pay for the one in Scrapyard Wars?

995
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,360
Like less than 400 Canadian dollars? Yeah.

996
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,360
Yeah. That's tough. That's tough.

997
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:18,200
That's tough. And there are benefits to a device like that over this.

998
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,160
Like for instance, being able to stream protected content, which, and I get it.

999
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:29,920
I know our audience, there's a lot of piracy. There's a lot of sailing the high seas, but that's not everybody, right?

1000
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,160
And so we do have to acknowledge that for a lot of people, the steam machine is not

1001
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:39,120
just going to be a no-brainer, like obviously anything else is stupid.

1002
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,800
I think another thing that'll hurt it, and I didn't articulate this earlier, but I did

1003
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:52,440
mean to earlier, I just forgot, is that I don't think this is going to have a almost

1004
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:57,720
unique-less value. It is cool. It's the first steam machine that's actually publicly available.

1005
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,720
It has steam OS, all that kind of stuff. No, it's not.

1006
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,440
For sale? Well, I mean, there were the old ones. They were for sale.

1007
01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:07,440
Oh, I didn't even know they actually went for sale. Yeah, nobody bought them. Okay.

1008
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:11,360
Yeah. I didn't know they actually went for sale. I thought, anyways, whatever.

1009
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:16,760
The only thing about old consoles that keeps their value is the like, there are probably

1010
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:22,120
games that only work on this, or it had a very unique experience for some particular

1011
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:27,280
reason. Yeah. So the way that they drop, because there's so many of them, but then they hold.

1012
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,280
And then they'll go up. And then they'll eventually... I don't think that's going to happen here.

1013
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,280
I don't. Exactly. It's just going to be an old computer.

1014
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,280
Yes. Which... Yeah.

1015
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:42,600
We'll see how it goes. Old computers will, again, they'll drop and they'll hold for a long time, but then they

1016
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:47,800
just plummet. They'll hit a wall where it's like, this just kind of sucks now.

1017
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,960
It's not getting driver updates anymore. These various things are happening.

1018
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,960
I mean, Linux, though. And then get ditched. Linux, though.

1019
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:58,080
The fact that it runs Linux and you don't have to worry about Microsoft just like rug-pulling

1020
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,960
your ability to boot the latest OS that's getting security updates, like...

1021
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:07,080
That might help it be more legit for longer. Yeah. I think there's going to be a lot at play in its ability to hold value, for sure.

1022
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,080
Of course, baby. Yeah. Okay.

1023
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,720
The last thing before we bring Elijah on and talk about Linus X Linus is the Steam Controller.

1024
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:23,800
Yes. Specifically the name. So I took a bit of a shot at Valve for calling the Steam Controller, Steam Controller, when

1025
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,800
they already have a product called Steam Controller.

1026
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:32,600
They sure do.

1027
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,520
They sure do. Like if you Google Steam Controller, says Steam Controller on Steam, the picture is

1028
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,880
the old one. You click on it and it's right there.

1029
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,880
They did add 2015 now. Yeah.

1030
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,200
So I did take a little bit of flack for this in the comments as well.

1031
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:52,680
It's a stupid critique, Linus. That one has been long discontinued.

1032
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:57,320
There's no way that anyone would get confused about it when the new one is like, you know,

1033
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,480
obviously the new one. I Googled Steam Controller.

1034
01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:08,720
And my response to that is, no, this is unconscionable.

1035
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:16,760
This is not okay. Nothing can ever be named the same thing exactly as another product because it serves literally

1036
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,800
no purpose other than to be confusing.

1037
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,920
So counterpoint, you're right.

1038
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:27,720
In the near future, there won't be a ton of confusion because all the SEO will be towards

1039
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,720
the new one. Yeah. Okay.

1040
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:35,320
What if you have an old one and you're trying to do a battery swap or something like that

1041
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,800
on it? Well, I guess go fuck yourself. Cool.

1042
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:44,400
Also, what about 10 years from now when they are both old and obsolete and you are trying

1043
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:50,080
to find information, you're trying to find a how to guide or you're trying to, well,

1044
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:54,000
I mean, yeah, that's the biggest one is it pretty much my objection to this comes down

1045
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:59,120
to ease of finding information and right to repair, calling something the exact same thing

1046
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:08,080
is completely unnecessary, completely unnecessary and can lead to nothing but confusion.

1047
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:12,320
And when I asked valve point blank, why did you do this?

1048
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:19,720
They said it was because it would reduce confusion.

1049
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:29,240
That was actually the fucking reason, which to me, I don't, I don't accept in the plate

1050
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:33,080
devil's advocate. Sure. Apple's done this forever.

1051
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:38,880
Yeah, which is exactly what I brought up and they acknowledged what a problem it is.

1052
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,560
And I do think considering the amount of steam controllers out there, especially that are

1053
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:47,960
still in use, this might actually reduce confusion because the amount of people, the amount of

1054
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:53,120
people that will have the new one and just not even know the old one existed.

1055
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:58,320
But tell me this, if they called it steam controller two, it would have been fine.

1056
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,880
How would that confuse anybody? I don't necessarily think it would.

1057
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,600
I have a fun thing though that's going to hurt some people's brains. Is this actually how it works?

1058
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:12,440
Does the USB-C port not line up with the little LED thing? Don't worry about it.

1059
01:18:12,440 --> 01:18:15,440
Get this, get this. What?

1060
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:18,960
No, you can't move on from that. We're not done yet.

1061
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,960
Bring that back. We're not done yet. No, we're not going back to that.

1062
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:28,760
So when I talked to them, I was like, look guys, do you want to be Microsoft?

1063
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:34,560
Do you want to have stupid naming schemes that don't make any sense?

1064
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,720
Or look at one of the other players in the console space.

1065
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:44,880
Sony hasn't run into fucking confusion by calling the PlayStation 2, PlayStation 2.

1066
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:50,080
Here's a question for you. I'm not done yet. No, I'm not done.

1067
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:54,360
So they didn't run into confusion calling it PlayStation 3.

1068
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,960
That's not confusing in spite of the fact that far more people bought a PlayStation

1069
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:04,200
2 than a PlayStation 1. Consoles went way more mainstream, especially in the West around PlayStation 2.

1070
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:08,200
Like way more. It moved so many units. That's not confusing.

1071
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,240
And the same thing, I said the same thing, DualShock, DualShock 2. That's not confusing.

1072
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,600
Nobody's confused. And they went, well, yeah, but what about DualSense?

1073
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:20,360
I'm like, yeah, what about DualSense?

1074
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:25,680
It's got a completely new ergonomic design. It has their Sense haptic triggers.

1075
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:31,200
It has a clearly differentiating feature. And also it's not called the fucking same thing.

1076
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,520
It's called DualSense. It has a new name. What about Steam Machine?

1077
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:42,360
So Steam Machine's stupid too. Steam Machine, I don't mind as much though because literally not a single one still exists.

1078
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:51,280
Everyone who bought those put Windows on it. You literally can't, that ancient original SteamOS that ran on it, they used NVIDIA GPUs

1079
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:57,320
back then. You literally can't even install new SteamOS on it.

1080
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:02,280
Steam Machine is more of a concept, or was more of a concept at the beginning.

1081
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:10,480
You didn't buy a Steam Machine. You bought an Alienware, whatever part number, and it was listed on Steam as a Steam Machine.

1082
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:14,040
So this is the first first party Steam Machine.

1083
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:21,120
So I can at least kind of get behind that. I remember it was through the OEMs, I thought they had a first party one as well.

1084
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:27,960
The first party one just went out to press to try out SteamOS and experience the ecosystem.

1085
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,960
But it was all third party.

1086
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:39,160
That's not that bad. So this is one of those things where the only reason to call something the same thing is

1087
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:45,720
to unnecessarily screw up search results, which Luke managed to demonstrate far more

1088
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:51,440
succinctly and easily than I had even thought to do it. Dude, it was, I was actually stunned that it came up that way.

1089
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:56,000
I'm not, because this is a serious f***ing problem.

1090
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:02,680
Any time you try to fix- And just to prove the first result is the old one.

1091
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:07,120
The second, and it says you visit often, I've only visited today, the second result is the

1092
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,840
new one. There is no reason to do this.

1093
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:16,480
Like if you've ever tried to find what version of iOS is supported on an iPad, if you don't

1094
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:23,120
pay super close attention and you know like, oh, this is the late 2017 one, or there's

1095
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:27,760
like little tiny letters on the back that you can like pull out a magnifying glass and

1096
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:33,880
like search for that specific model, and it's just called iPad, it's like f***ing worthless.

1097
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,000
If you're trying to replace a screen or a battery or a home button or whatever the case

1098
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:43,400
may be and just find information about the bloody thing, that is the only purpose that

1099
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:47,960
it serves and the really infuriating part of it is that Apple knows better.

1100
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:54,040
For their cash cow, for the iPhone, they all have a clear, a clear name that is different

1101
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:58,360
from the one before and different from the one after. They're all clearly named.

1102
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:03,160
It's, it's, it still fits under clearly named, but in my opinion, they faltered for a second

1103
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,520
with the X, but then they came back, they came, they fixed it.

1104
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,520
And at least it had a name that was not the same as any other iPhone.

1105
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:14,200
I totally agree. It just wasn't as good and then they went back to being good again.

1106
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,720
And to be clear, Apple doesn't do everything perfectly in this regard either.

1107
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:23,000
The new SE is called 16E instead of just calling it the, and the SEs were actually kind of

1108
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:27,680
dumb because they had like SE and then SE second generation, like they have made mistakes.

1109
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:32,360
I didn't even know that. But those are mistakes. Those are not okay.

1110
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:37,160
It's never okay. And no, it was, because I could, I could make the exact same statement.

1111
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,640
We called it steam controller so that it wouldn't be confusing.

1112
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:46,800
I could see the exact same thing. We called it steam controller too, so it wouldn't be confusing.

1113
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,120
Which of those actually made more sense to you? Of course.

1114
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:57,320
Yeah. Yeah. I just, I can't, whenever someone gives you a reason, and I use the word reason very

1115
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:01,280
loosely here because reason implies logic and logic is math.

1116
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:06,720
Whenever somebody gives you a reason for their actions that does not logic, then what it

1117
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,880
means is either they're stupid or they're lying.

1118
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,480
Those are the only answers. And I don't know what Valve's game is here.

1119
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:19,800
I don't understand this, but I don't agree with it and I will never agree with it.

1120
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,400
No two products should ever be called exactly the same thing, ever.

1121
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaking of not agreeing with it, I looked up images and references and stuff like that

1122
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,640
and the USB-C port does line up with the middle of the controller.

1123
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:36,960
I think that animation that they have is just not correct.

1124
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:42,160
Or maybe the magnet is off-centered. Oh yeah, it's not plugging into USB port.

1125
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,680
No, it looks like the magnet's centered. It's probably just the graphic.

1126
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,640
I wouldn't worry about that. That is like the least. Oh, it will bother the...

1127
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,560
Engagement fate. ...out of people. It will bother people so much.

1128
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:57,480
I don't actually remember where it was. I'm sure it's fine. It all looks centered.

1129
01:23:57,480 --> 01:24:02,080
Yeah. Yeah. A full-plane chat seems to be back.

1130
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,080
Oh, really? For now, maybe. For now, maybe.

1131
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:09,880
Oh, we'll see how it goes. That's fine. Should we talk about Linus X Linus?

1132
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:18,800
Yeah. Dude. It was the best thing ever.

1133
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:24,280
I mean... It was weird hearing him say that he was glad that Luke wasn't here.

1134
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:29,600
I've been joined. I don't even.

1135
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,280
Is this Micon? It will be in a second. Just wait for him to get settled.

1136
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,280
Do you want to give it a quick tap for me?

1137
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,000
Okay, wait. I actually do think Chad is actually properly back now. Thank you, AJ.

1138
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,000
I've got headphones and everything. Yeah, you're mad. Nice.

1139
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,000
Can you hear okay? Yeah, we... We...

1140
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,000
We sprained for the headphones. Give me a... Give me a tippy tap.

1141
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,000
Just on the... Perfect. Okay.

1142
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,000
All right. Hopefully this isn't too loud. Let's do this thing.

1143
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,520
No, no. Speaking of having two things named the same.

1144
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,520
There we go. Yeah. How confusing was that?

1145
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:09,840
I... I've never really gone through that. It was quite funny every single time being like, hey Linus, and then both would turn

1146
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,120
every single time for the whole day.

1147
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,000
Did you guys get really hardcore about Linus and Linus?

1148
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:21,360
No. Oh. He actually doesn't agree with that.

1149
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:26,200
Oh. Probably Linus if you are speaking Swedish to him.

1150
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:35,200
That totally makes sense to me. Otherwise he goes by Linus. I called him Linus just because it kind of broke my brain to call anyone else Linus,

1151
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:41,480
except sometimes I think I called him Linus a couple of times. Well you had asked him about it and then you tried Linus for a while.

1152
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:45,280
Then you said Linus, then you said Linus.

1153
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,480
You honestly bounced back and forth quite a bit between all three.

1154
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:51,960
It's a hard name. Debatable. It's a hard name.

1155
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,960
It's very debatable. Strong name. Can you say the word line?

1156
01:25:54,960 --> 01:26:00,840
Can you say the word us? I mean you'd be surprised how few people can handle it, especially in other languages.

1157
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:07,920
It's very difficult. It's very difficult. So I mean, dude, I don't even know, I don't even really know where to start with this.

1158
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,680
If you weren't paying attention or you're just joining the show now, we had the one

1159
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:17,680
and only Linus Torvalds, the creator of the Linux kernel here to shoot a collaborative

1160
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:22,680
video this week. We reached out to him saying, hey, what do you think?

1161
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:27,200
Would you like to do a video together? Got back the weirdest response ever.

1162
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,200
Oh dude, it was very strange.

1163
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,520
Awesome. You should stop bringing that up and down because it's a lot of mic movement.

1164
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,840
You might just have to kind of hold it. Okay. Sorry, sir.

1165
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,840
I could handle noises. My bad, sir. No, you're great.

1166
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,840
Cut a lot of it out. So you probably hear more than they do. Oh, cool.

1167
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,840
We go Linus. Linus. It's Linus.

1168
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:54,320
Yeah. So he basically said, without accepting or declining, well, the only way for this to work

1169
01:26:54,320 --> 01:27:02,080
would be for it to something, something, there can be only one like the hit 80s movie

1170
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:07,400
Highlander or two men enter one man leaves like Mad Max.

1171
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:11,520
And so I basically responded with, I don't know what to make of these.

1172
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:15,560
I'm going to give myself the homework of watching these old movies I've never seen and I will

1173
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:20,280
get back to you, which it took me a very long time because I don't find a ton of time to

1174
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:26,720
watch movies. And then eventually I did and it turns out that he had meant yes.

1175
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:32,240
We actually found out while he was here that he has a very interesting approach to email.

1176
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:36,680
Oh, yeah. I suspect he has an interesting approach to a lot of things.

1177
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:42,240
Feel free to participate. Well, I don't want to interrupt you. Well, no, I mean, yeah, you're hanging around late at work to participate.

1178
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:48,120
Why don't you tell the email? He's very different than our Linus, where our Linus might take anywhere between four

1179
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,520
minutes and four business months to respond to an email.

1180
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:58,120
Mr. Linus Torvalds has says, if I don't respond in 15 minutes, probably wasn't important anyways.

1181
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:02,320
And then you're not going to get a response and he archives it and he's like, if it's

1182
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,280
important enough, they'll follow up again and then I'll respond then based.

1183
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:10,640
So he almost responded like with it was definitely within 15 minutes of your original email,

1184
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:16,240
which I was floored by. And then what he said was like, yeah, well, it was either that or not.

1185
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:20,920
And I was like, oh, well, I'm glad it was important enough to that.

1186
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:28,000
I think that's based. And then you guys set up a call and did some talking and here we are.

1187
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,000
Okay. Out of 10. How cool was it?

1188
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:37,920
Like a 17. Dude, like we have some footage on your phone of us in the lobby because he gave me the

1189
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,720
access to his Uber to see like whereabouts he was. We could just keep track.

1190
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:48,280
And I was like watching it like a hawk. Well, first, so nervous. First, we were freaking out because he was what, half an hour early, an hour early.

1191
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:52,560
Oh yeah. He's like super early. So we're sitting there like, that's not ready.

1192
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:57,680
We're not ready to shoot this. Linus is still in the middle of a meeting right now. What are we going to do this?

1193
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:02,920
So finally, about five minutes before he's showing up, Linus and I walked down to the

1194
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:07,480
front lobby and we're just kind of like pacing back and forth, like waiting or like, what

1195
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:13,640
do we do? How do we open this? Because we were standing on the set and I was like, dude, what is the point of us trying

1196
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:21,040
to play this cool? We might as well just wait for him on the doorstep because we want to.

1197
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:25,880
Yep. And so maybe that footage will make it onto Floatplane at some point of us just in the

1198
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,880
lobby. I think there's, I do think there's stuff coming. Yeah.

1199
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:35,400
Oh, yeah. No, there's actually, Sammy already has, there's already something behind the scenes up on

1200
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:39,000
Floatplane right now. Let me have a look.

1201
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,560
There's actually two already.

1202
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,920
Behind the scenes, shooting the intro for the collab.

1203
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,200
So we ended up, here's a bit of a spoiler. We went with Highlander.

1204
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:56,400
There can be only one. So we do like kind of a goofy sword fight thing.

1205
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:03,720
Here's some pictures. Except I can only get samurai swords. I unfortunately couldn't get broad swords like the movie.

1206
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:08,480
So we'll have all that, we have all that up on Floatplane right now.

1207
01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:15,120
Then how can you be that much of a Chad and still genuinely that humble, but also know

1208
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:21,920
how important you are? Oh, yeah. Because he definitely knows how important he is or how important his contribution has

1209
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:28,280
been. But he's just, I don't know, it was like kind of hanging out with like someone's dad.

1210
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:33,080
Like he's just very down to earth. Yeah. It got really comfortable really quickly.

1211
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:39,920
Except me. I asked you, I was like, was Valon or this, like more, what were you more nervous for?

1212
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,920
Oh, this. Yeah. Not even close.

1213
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,920
Like Valon's a celebrity. But Torvalds.

1214
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,000
In our space is a dramatically bigger deal.

1215
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:54,840
Like we were talking about it, Elijah and I both were like, okay, well, this is it then.

1216
01:30:54,840 --> 01:31:00,200
I actually can't see any other peak of like having a guest do a type of video.

1217
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:05,320
Have him back. The first thing that other people will say is, okay, well, what about Bill Gates?

1218
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,920
And it's like, no, you got to be kidding me. That was exact response.

1219
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,920
Yeah. Exactly. Not even close.

1220
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,920
It's like, why not some, why not some other billionaire? Yeah.

1221
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,920
Like actually. Actually though. No.

1222
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,920
Like this is. This is. It was unbelievably cool.

1223
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,080
I think that gay men would be, would be close for me.

1224
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:28,440
Oh, for sure. Torvalds gay men.

1225
01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:34,800
You got to go. I haven't talked about this topic yet, but you got to go meet gay men on his yacht, 364

1226
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:43,600
foot. Please. Wozniak would be very cool, but less meaningful to me.

1227
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,240
I wasn't into Apple like then when he was with the company.

1228
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,840
Wozniak has a lot to do with the introduction of the personal computer.

1229
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:54,840
He does. Wozniak would be super cool. That would be super cool.

1230
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,000
But like there's not, man, there's not. You just got to email.

1231
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,680
Many. That's all you did for this one. And we got the collab.

1232
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:05,520
We've talked about this after now. It's like, dude, how many cold emails should we just start sending?

1233
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,520
Yeah. I actually. I asked him to though.

1234
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:13,280
I was like, I don't remember exactly what I said, but I was like, I can't, I basically

1235
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,760
told him. I was like, I can't believe it was this easy.

1236
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:22,720
All I, I, I spent my entire career obviously knowing who he was.

1237
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,160
How spammed he's going to get now. He brought that up.

1238
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:32,480
He'll just ignore it. Yeah. He was like, yeah, basically he talked about how, as far as I can tell, ignoring things

1239
01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:35,520
is his superpower. Same as how I can't see ads.

1240
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,640
He just can't see an email he doesn't care about and he'll just.

1241
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:42,640
Does he archive himself or does it just auto archive past a certain period of time?

1242
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,640
He says he'll archive it. I don't know what that means. Yeah.

1243
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:53,240
I'm not sure what that means. I mean, all in the column archive it later. I'm sure that someone like that could come up with a script.

1244
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:57,120
This is archiving assistant if you really wanted to.

1245
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:04,280
Like the, I basically couldn't wrap my brain around the fact that, because obviously I've

1246
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:09,880
always been aware of the other, you know, you know, the actual tech, tech Linus, right?

1247
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:17,600
Yeah. And the fact that just me being too shy to ask was the only reason it took this long.

1248
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,640
That was the barrier of entry. That was the barrier.

1249
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:25,240
It was genuinely so much fun and so cool and like just even walking around the studio

1250
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,840
with him, kind of giving him an example of like, this is what we do because he didn't

1251
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:35,000
necessarily even fully grasp it until he was here. Like what a YouTube media company was like, right?

1252
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,000
It is weird. It's very, yeah. Like in the history of media.

1253
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,440
It is very strange. And as we kept walking, he was like, wow, this place just keeps going.

1254
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:49,120
Like that was like. It was cool that he was, he seemed, and I don't think he'd bother to pretend, but he seemed

1255
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,520
genuinely interested. Did you bring him to the lab?

1256
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:56,000
I didn't. We only had a limited amount of time with him. I know.

1257
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,400
I know. We only had a limited. We did invite lab people over to come meet him though.

1258
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,400
Okay. Yeah. No, I knew about that, but I was.

1259
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:06,000
I know. Which that will be a separate Floatplane video as well.

1260
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:10,360
There's kind of like a 15 minute kind of staff asked him questions.

1261
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:15,320
It was very, because it was after the shoot and I was just like, guys, just like, go up

1262
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:18,840
and say hi. Oh, dude, people were like hovering. Well, yeah.

1263
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:23,280
Like, I was like. Honestly, he's probably quite used to that.

1264
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,720
Yeah. He wasn't awkward though.

1265
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:34,360
It's funny because as part of my prep for this, I read his autobiography and I, he

1266
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,720
didn't believe me until like the fourth time I referenced it, I think.

1267
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:42,920
Yeah. You had asked some questions from it or some guiding questions and he was like, oh, you

1268
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:47,480
actually did read the book. It was quite funny.

1269
01:34:47,480 --> 01:34:52,320
So yeah, in prepping for it. So he wrote it over 20 years ago though.

1270
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:56,680
And he talks a lot about like how much trouble he has with public speaking and how awkward

1271
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:00,360
he is or whatever. And I was like, well, either a lot has done a ton since then.

1272
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:05,160
A lot has changed in 20 years, or you weren't as awkward as you thought you were.

1273
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:11,560
Or you hide it well or whatever. Every time he opened his mouth, he was very eloquent and it was super interesting.

1274
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:17,920
Like he's one of those people that's just like, well, there's no way that I'm the smartest

1275
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:22,440
person in this room because it's that guy.

1276
01:35:22,440 --> 01:35:30,680
And it was, it was just super cool. Everything he said just seemed so well considered, even if we were kind of trying to blindside

1277
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:35,680
him with something. He still took the time to process it and then like give an actually good response.

1278
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:42,560
And we were like, wow, okay. Like we mean, we mean them with like Xbox versus PlayStation.

1279
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,000
And he like gave us a thoughtful response and it's like, all right.

1280
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:53,320
Yeah. It was very great. The hardest part about this video, I think, is going to be cutting it into a video.

1281
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:57,040
And not because there's not enough content. There's too much.

1282
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:01,000
You just got to dump it on Philippine, speaking of which, question from the now working

1283
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:06,560
Philippine chat. Archangel of Death said, did he know about LTT before your email?

1284
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:14,600
So this is funny. I specifically asked him if he had seen the video that we did a number of years ago where

1285
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:21,280
we followed the guide from ZD net or parts list really from ZD net and we built Linus

1286
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:26,920
Torvalds computer. Like we built the same spec and we were like, if you build this, you'll have the same PC

1287
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,280
as Linus Torvalds. And I was like, have you seen it?

1288
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:34,680
He's like drew a complete blank.

1289
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:42,280
But the two other flipping YouTubers that I happened to mention.

1290
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:46,160
Okay. I mentioned Mehdi, Electro Boom.

1291
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:49,160
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1292
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,160
Immediately. He's like, oh yeah, Electro Boom. Awesome.

1293
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,160
Yeah. He's local. I'm like, okay.

1294
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,160
Ego destroyed. Did you call Mehdi up? And then, I should have actually.

1295
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:03,960
No, I didn't. And then just because I was just kind of, I was kind of talking about how it kind of

1296
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:09,120
blew his mind that we were more of a physical goods company than we are a media company

1297
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:13,680
these days. And I was like, I was just kind of chatting with him and I kind of brought up that that's

1298
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:18,720
not even that unique anymore. Like this creator economy is incredibly cool.

1299
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,160
And so I pulled out, I pulled out this.

1300
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:26,040
This is my new box cutter from Evan and Caitlin.

1301
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:30,440
And they showed it to me at VidCon.

1302
01:37:30,440 --> 01:37:33,720
And I was just like, that is too cool for you to give it to me.

1303
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:39,920
I will buy one. It's super expensive, but it's like extremely satisfying.

1304
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,280
You just can't handle it, can you?

1305
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:47,840
Up, up. There we go. So you slide it forward and then let it go.

1306
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,840
Yep. And then slide it back. Oh.

1307
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,840
To retract it. Okay. Yeah.

1308
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,840
I thought you slid it forward again to pull it back. No. Yeah.

1309
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:00,240
It's super cool. So I showed it to him and he's like, oh yeah, those guys, they make the, like, like.

1310
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,640
The resin pumpkin. Well, you asked him about one of our videos.

1311
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:08,080
Did you ask him about our channel? He then acknowledged that he had heard of those.

1312
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:15,960
Okay, okay. I didn't completely destroy my ego, but it's just like, I pull two sort of not random because

1313
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:21,160
obviously they're, they're tech adjacent and big creators, but he like immediately

1314
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,640
was like, oh yeah, those guys. It was very funny.

1315
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:29,080
Yeah. I have to ask you if you can say it without spoiling.

1316
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:38,320
What was the highlight? Like, if you can pinpoint one specific moment.

1317
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:46,320
It's really tough. I have one. It's so hard because there's like kind of what's a, what's a personal highlight.

1318
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,920
Like the fact that he genuinely thought what we're doing is cool.

1319
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:56,160
Yeah. That's pretty sweet. That was amazing because if he thinks it's cool, then it's cool.

1320
01:38:56,160 --> 01:39:01,120
As far as I'm concerned. That's pretty huge. That's a respectable favorite point.

1321
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:07,520
But like, I mean, I just thought how cool he was was also cool.

1322
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:11,480
Like the fact that he's so, no, I'm serious. No, I hear you.

1323
01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:16,960
Like the fact that without a moment of hesitation, you know, I was like, it's totally fine to

1324
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:24,960
say no, would it be okay? You have a, you have some pretty big fans here to hang around longer and just chat.

1325
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:31,600
And he was so generous with his time during that he didn't have to talk to anybody.

1326
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:36,200
He waited until like the kind of energy died down before being like, okay, I guess I can

1327
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:40,120
head out now. He read the room like super hard.

1328
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:43,840
They say never meet your heroes, right? Meet this one.

1329
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:47,760
But meet this one because he's so cool.

1330
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:56,080
And there was, I literally just from the second like he introduced himself, it was just,

1331
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,080
I don't know. It was great vibes. Yeah.

1332
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:04,200
Yeah. And so that was a super huge highlight.

1333
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:12,200
I, I mean, this will be kind of a weird one, but getting him to cringe at my dad jokes.

1334
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,800
Oh, that was so funny. Was so fun. Yeah.

1335
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:20,320
You cracking dad jokes and then either they're not immediately realizing it or realizing

1336
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:24,200
it immediately and going like actually deep sigh.

1337
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,240
He called out your segues a couple of times, which was really funny.

1338
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,840
He's like, oh, he does know the channel. Yeah. He was like, oh, that was cool.

1339
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,840
Yeah. That was cool. Yeah.

1340
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:38,520
Very cool. Like, is that enough? Is that enough like peak tier highlights for you?

1341
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:42,400
Like it goes on and on. I have one that I think was my highlight.

1342
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:46,760
It was after the shoot, after the meet and greet, we went and said goodbye to you.

1343
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:52,600
Yeah. I candidly was just like, I'd be happy to give you a ride back to your hotel, which was

1344
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:57,480
about a 25 minute drive from the office pretty much in completely the opposite direction

1345
01:40:57,480 --> 01:41:02,800
of where my home was, but I got a 25 minute one on one conversation with him.

1346
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,080
And like that's something that is going to be forever ingrained.

1347
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,920
Even if I have another concussion, I can't possibly forget that because it's just so

1348
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:16,880
cool. And that's what I mean even to about being generous with his time because he could have

1349
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,120
just been like, you know what, I'm socialed out today.

1350
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,120
I've done it. I've done it. I've been like, you know what?

1351
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:27,080
It would be fair. And that would be totally fine to do that.

1352
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:31,840
But instead he's like, no, I'm going to hang around on set and talk to randoms that I've

1353
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:39,040
never met, you know, or whatever. I'm going to, I'll accept the ride because you never know when you accept a ride from

1354
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:42,480
someone like, you know, maybe they try and corner you with a business pitch or something

1355
01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:45,480
like that. Oh, totally. Yeah.

1356
01:41:45,480 --> 01:41:50,280
It happens. It happens. And I could see having your guard up about something like that.

1357
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:55,960
But whether it's just not giving in Fox or whether it's like just being at a point in

1358
01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:03,720
your career where you're just, he was very open to new experiences, which was, yeah,

1359
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:08,200
try anything once. He said that a lot of times.

1360
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:14,120
And as far as I can tell, the try anything once is basically the reason he did it.

1361
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:18,720
He's like, I've never, I've never done a YouTube video before.

1362
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:24,080
I've never seen this before and he talked about how being the Linux guy has unlocked

1363
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:29,080
experiences for him. He talked about going to a pre-Oscar party.

1364
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:34,840
He talked about like riding on a fighter jet and just like, I kept kind of ribbing

1365
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:37,840
him. I was like, right. So that's what you're comparing.

1366
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:44,200
Yeah. That's what you're comparing to this, right? Like we're up, we're being in a YouTube video, right?

1367
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:53,760
And I don't know, dude, it's just I was more tired after the end of that day than I have

1368
01:42:53,760 --> 01:43:03,280
been after work in a long time. Not because I was like down about anything we were doing, but just because being that

1369
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:09,400
excited and having that much fun for an entire day is honestly pretty tiring.

1370
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:14,760
Yeah. I slept for about four minutes before that like night because I was so nervous.

1371
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:19,940
I was in and out of like a dream of like replaying the shoot in my head over and over, like wanting

1372
01:43:19,940 --> 01:43:23,940
to make sure everything was going right because obviously I have my name tied to it.

1373
01:43:23,940 --> 01:43:27,340
So I'm like, if this is bad, I'm bad.

1374
01:43:27,340 --> 01:43:33,140
So when I got home, I also just, I was done.

1375
01:43:33,140 --> 01:43:38,340
It's over. I have to post the other Valve video. If you got home from dropping offline is Torvald.

1376
01:43:38,340 --> 01:43:42,860
Yeah. Oh, I have no idea how I'm ever going to peak that.

1377
01:43:42,860 --> 01:43:46,380
Like maybe I can give Obama or like someone else a ride. I wouldn't peak it.

1378
01:43:46,380 --> 01:43:53,620
I know. He flashes his phone to me and he's like, how many people have this, this profile picture

1379
01:43:53,620 --> 01:43:58,820
in their recent message history? There's quite a common podcast flex question of like, who's the most famous person in your

1380
01:43:58,820 --> 01:44:04,020
phone? I now have the most famous person in my opinion.

1381
01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:07,020
In my phone. That's fantastic. That's really cool.

1382
01:44:07,020 --> 01:44:10,140
I'm never, ever going to text it because I'm like way too like, never going to cross

1383
01:44:10,140 --> 01:44:13,140
that line. But you got to like frame it. Oh, dude.

1384
01:44:13,140 --> 01:44:18,140
It's so cool. I should have texted you right beside him so I could get a screenshot.

1385
01:44:18,140 --> 01:44:23,020
Even if someone else that someone had in their phone was more famous, I think that, I think

1386
01:44:23,020 --> 01:44:30,100
consequential is the word that I would sort of apply most to Linus Torvalds.

1387
01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:35,220
Because I mean, he'll be the first to tell you that the Linux kernel these days is like

1388
01:44:35,220 --> 01:44:38,620
a fraction of a percent code that he actually wrote.

1389
01:44:38,620 --> 01:44:46,340
He's mostly the guy that makes sure that everyone else's contributions are meaningful

1390
01:44:46,340 --> 01:44:52,180
and are correct and are moving Linux in the right direction, moving the kernel in the

1391
01:44:52,180 --> 01:44:58,420
right direction. Because he's the kernel guy. He's like, yeah, at some point I had to.

1392
01:44:58,420 --> 01:45:05,580
Which is almost certainly an extremely good thing because as with us all unfortunately

1393
01:45:05,580 --> 01:45:13,460
somehow he's still mortal. So he's going to pass at some point and we're going to need a good example of the types

1394
01:45:13,460 --> 01:45:17,220
of things that he would want to happen.

1395
01:45:17,220 --> 01:45:20,220
But consequential. Absolutely.

1396
01:45:20,220 --> 01:45:28,020
I mean, think of a celebrity, Dwayne The Rock Johnson, probably more famous than Linus

1397
01:45:28,020 --> 01:45:31,020
Torvalds. Oh, yeah. More consequential?

1398
01:45:31,020 --> 01:45:34,020
No. Yeah. Yeah.

1399
01:45:34,020 --> 01:45:39,060
I mean, it's like actually funny. Like I can smell what he's cooking, but it ain't as important as Linux.

1400
01:45:39,060 --> 01:45:42,060
It's very, very cool.

1401
01:45:42,060 --> 01:45:46,100
Yeah. I mean, no one watching this is going to have a problem with that.

1402
01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:52,060
But I was going to say like if you had a problem with that, like please look up the amount of things around the world that move because of Linux.

1403
01:45:52,060 --> 01:45:57,860
Yeah. Oh dude. The phone, the Android phone in your pocket.

1404
01:45:57,860 --> 01:46:00,860
Your Mac. Prime example. Mac, less so.

1405
01:46:00,860 --> 01:46:05,300
Sort of. Less so though. Heavily inspired by.

1406
01:46:05,620 --> 01:46:10,820
You're talking about consequence. Yes. Absolutely underpins Android, like heavily.

1407
01:46:10,820 --> 01:46:17,180
For sure. But you're talking about consequence. Would it exist in the form it is now without it?

1408
01:46:17,180 --> 01:46:21,140
Because consequence can be indirect and direct. Okay.

1409
01:46:21,140 --> 01:46:25,380
Okay. Equival, equivocal says no mention of Git either.

1410
01:46:25,380 --> 01:46:31,340
We did actually talk about Git. We asked him which was his, his favorite child, that one I'm not going to spoil.

1411
01:46:31,380 --> 01:46:37,140
So make sure you guys watch this video because building the computer, that's the title of

1412
01:46:37,140 --> 01:46:41,420
the video, but it is the least important part of the video.

1413
01:46:41,420 --> 01:46:46,700
And whether it ends up being a 25 minute long video or whether it ends up being an hour

1414
01:46:46,700 --> 01:46:53,260
and a half video, we don't know yet. Whatever doesn't make it into the YouTube cut is going to end up on Floatplane.

1415
01:46:53,260 --> 01:46:59,940
But right now, Elijah and I are leaning towards a super long YouTube cut with there will still

1416
01:46:59,940 --> 01:47:05,020
be some stuff that's just not going to make the YouTube cut. So that'll be over on Floatplane.

1417
01:47:05,020 --> 01:47:10,620
But we're leaning towards just a long ass video because it was awesome.

1418
01:47:10,620 --> 01:47:14,820
And it's interesting to try to, to see if there's an appetite for like, you know, these

1419
01:47:14,820 --> 01:47:21,420
kind of long or unfiltered podcast, the almost style videos of just having a genuine conversation.

1420
01:47:21,420 --> 01:47:25,980
I don't know if it's going to prove a point though, because like, yeah, what does that

1421
01:47:25,980 --> 01:47:34,700
tell us? If we have literally one of the most consequential great point contributors to the tech world,

1422
01:47:34,700 --> 01:47:37,940
could we do an hour and a half long interview with them? Okay.

1423
01:47:37,940 --> 01:47:40,940
Yeah. Find me another one. All right.

1424
01:47:40,940 --> 01:47:43,940
I'll go get Bill Gates. No, I told you. I know.

1425
01:47:43,940 --> 01:47:46,940
That's the thing. Right? Like, yeah.

1426
01:47:46,940 --> 01:47:49,940
Okay. I told you. Gabe in.

1427
01:47:49,940 --> 01:47:52,940
Okay. Was. And was.

1428
01:47:52,940 --> 01:47:55,940
I'll send him an email. There's some other ones for sure. We could do a show from his yacht.

1429
01:47:55,980 --> 01:48:01,900
Right? Oh, yeah. Apparently, Gabe and took delivery of his new $500 million yacht today.

1430
01:48:01,900 --> 01:48:04,900
Yep. You guys see that? Yeah.

1431
01:48:04,900 --> 01:48:11,860
It has a live in nurse. I guess at his age, that kind of makes sense. And also, it's not just for leisure, it's for like scientific exploration too.

1432
01:48:11,860 --> 01:48:16,900
It has a diving thing and a submarine to do marine life science.

1433
01:48:16,900 --> 01:48:21,140
So having, I mean, Steve Irwin wouldn't have minded if he'd been working off of a yacht

1434
01:48:21,140 --> 01:48:25,780
that had onboard medical staff, but it's not a joke.

1435
01:48:26,620 --> 01:48:29,620
Yep. Why is everything a joke with your generation? That one's rough.

1436
01:48:29,620 --> 01:48:32,620
Whoa, whoa. That one's rough. Please don't.

1437
01:48:32,620 --> 01:48:37,980
Okay. Well. I don't know if that one will ever not be too soon.

1438
01:48:37,980 --> 01:48:40,980
Steve Irwin? Oh. He was taken too soon.

1439
01:48:40,980 --> 01:48:45,100
That's the thing. That's the thing. It's not that whether the joke is too soon or not too soon, it's that he was taken too

1440
01:48:45,100 --> 01:48:48,100
soon. Yeah. So it's always too soon.

1441
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:54,980
Forever. But I'm sure he wouldn't have minded if there was a medical professional closer.

1442
01:48:54,980 --> 01:48:59,420
So I can see why Gabe N would have done that. It apparently has 15 gaming PCs, which is a weird number.

1443
01:48:59,420 --> 01:49:03,180
It was a little odd. I noticed that too. 15?

1444
01:49:03,180 --> 01:49:07,940
That's got to be a typo. There's no way it's not eight or 16. Three teams of five.

1445
01:49:07,940 --> 01:49:12,700
One at the head of the table. So what we're playing nights, Vikings, Pirates, like what are we even talking about here?

1446
01:49:12,700 --> 01:49:15,700
What are you even talking about? I don't even think that supports teams of five.

1447
01:49:15,700 --> 01:49:18,700
Yeah. I got nothing. Yeah.

1448
01:49:18,700 --> 01:49:21,700
Give me a 5v5 game. A bunch of people are speculating 14 crew members.

1449
01:49:21,700 --> 01:49:27,980
That would be kind of interesting. Could you imagine just Gabe playing with his 14, he's like, all right, guys, you're off

1450
01:49:27,980 --> 01:49:32,100
shift. We're all going to boot up some. Honestly, if you live there completely, I wouldn't be too surprised.

1451
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:37,660
It's pretty cool. Yeah. Now he's talked about how he plays like Dota and just gets trolled by people and stuff.

1452
01:49:37,660 --> 01:49:41,100
People tell him to uninstall the game stuff.

1453
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:47,660
That's crazy. Amazing. Only lost because my Starlink latency was too bad.

1454
01:49:47,660 --> 01:49:51,540
Going back to the Linus Torvold thing, I want to make sure that people know that we had

1455
01:49:51,540 --> 01:49:58,900
a Reddit thread where we asked you guys for your questions. We did go through about 10 to 15 ish of them.

1456
01:49:58,900 --> 01:50:02,500
Again, don't know if all of them will make it, but some were really interesting.

1457
01:50:02,500 --> 01:50:05,500
Cool. Some were not. Yeah.

1458
01:50:05,500 --> 01:50:08,860
Some after like you should just go read his autobiography and then you'll know the answer to a lot of the questions you guys asked.

1459
01:50:08,860 --> 01:50:16,380
I'm really glad I read it. We changed the questions about an hour before he showed up because it was like, oh yeah,

1460
01:50:16,380 --> 01:50:20,500
this would have been really stupid to ask, even though it's weird because people might

1461
01:50:20,540 --> 01:50:26,780
not have read the autobiography. For them, it's really interesting to just have this question, but it's also really obvious.

1462
01:50:26,780 --> 01:50:31,660
I wanted our contribution to the two ...

1463
01:50:31,660 --> 01:50:34,660
Totally. That was the right way to go. Yeah.

1464
01:50:34,660 --> 01:50:39,820
I wanted us to be bringing something new to the table. Even if you're a Die Hard Linus Torvolds fan, you watch every interview you can find

1465
01:50:39,820 --> 01:50:46,100
of him, I want you to find something new in ours. He's not just a man to be milked for content.

1466
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:49,060
You want it to be decently more interesting for him as well.

1467
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:52,380
He's just rehashing things that he wrote down in his autobiography.

1468
01:50:52,380 --> 01:50:57,220
It's like, I don't know. I wanted him to enjoy the experience.

1469
01:50:57,220 --> 01:51:01,540
Exactly. He said it was fine.

1470
01:51:01,540 --> 01:51:07,220
Which means we might get him back up here.

1471
01:51:07,220 --> 01:51:11,460
The fact that he came to us still blows my mind.

1472
01:51:11,460 --> 01:51:15,620
It was so funny that conversation because he's like, well, it makes so much more sense.

1473
01:51:15,620 --> 01:51:19,380
It'd be more effort for me to clean up my place and get you guys down here.

1474
01:51:19,380 --> 01:51:23,180
It'd be so much work for you guys to bring all your equipment. I want to ...

1475
01:51:23,180 --> 01:51:31,220
I'm just like, dude, your time and my time are not of equal worth.

1476
01:51:31,220 --> 01:51:39,860
If it takes you an hour, then I should be spending hours before we draw a parallel and

1477
01:51:39,860 --> 01:51:49,820
decide what makes sense. I think with his do everything once thing though, it was probably cool to see the operation.

1478
01:51:49,820 --> 01:51:54,100
Yeah, I guess. Maybe next time you'll have to go to him.

1479
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:58,180
Me standing in a room with him, I have a hard time thinking there's anything cool for him

1480
01:51:58,180 --> 01:52:03,940
to experience. We're pretty cool.

1481
01:52:03,940 --> 01:52:07,180
It's all relative.

1482
01:52:07,180 --> 01:52:10,820
We're not a fighter jet. No.

1483
01:52:10,820 --> 01:52:13,820
We are not a fighter jet.

1484
01:52:13,820 --> 01:52:17,500
Gamer fighter jet? Stop. Let's go.

1485
01:52:17,500 --> 01:52:22,700
Flight sim in a flight? The person in the back, if they're not actively shooting missiles, could play like Stardew

1486
01:52:22,700 --> 01:52:31,260
Valley. Wow. The opposite ends of the spectrum of what you're doing, dogfight to Stardew Valley.

1487
01:52:31,260 --> 01:52:34,860
This is going to be a bit of a niche reference, but play Spec Ops the line in the back of

1488
01:52:34,860 --> 01:52:41,060
a fighter jet would be ... No one's going to get that. The four people that get it, it'll smash with ...

1489
01:52:41,060 --> 01:52:47,060
Amazing. Amazing. Yeah, I think that is ...

1490
01:52:47,060 --> 01:52:51,740
A few people got it, nice.

1491
01:52:51,740 --> 01:52:57,900
There's definitely been points in my career that were more consequential, ego-wise, like

1492
01:52:57,900 --> 01:53:02,900
the first time we did a million views in less than 24 hours on a video.

1493
01:53:02,900 --> 01:53:06,060
I'll remember that forever. It was seven gamers, one CPU.

1494
01:53:06,100 --> 01:53:11,900
I'll remember staring at this view graph going, this is unbelievable.

1495
01:53:11,900 --> 01:53:15,540
This is the closest thing to a viral video we've ever done. It's always been slow and steady.

1496
01:53:15,540 --> 01:53:19,020
This is it. This is breakthrough moment. I'll remember stuff like that.

1497
01:53:19,020 --> 01:53:26,860
I'll remember pacing the family room of the old house, talking to Steve on the phone and

1498
01:53:26,860 --> 01:53:35,420
finding out we're going to get the channel. There's moments like that in my career that are core memories.

1499
01:53:35,420 --> 01:53:43,780
But in terms of importance of a video we've made, I don't know if it's that important.

1500
01:53:43,780 --> 01:53:47,100
Like highlight? Yeah, highlight reel, career highlight reel.

1501
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:50,500
This is very high.

1502
01:53:50,500 --> 01:53:54,820
I'm afraid to call it number one because maybe there's ... But then if something's number

1503
01:53:54,820 --> 01:53:58,940
one, I shouldn't forget it. Yeah. And it's possible that something could take it.

1504
01:53:58,940 --> 01:54:01,980
I think that's okay to look at it from that perspective.

1505
01:54:01,980 --> 01:54:07,220
When I'm talking career, obviously there's personal life highlights that are bigger than

1506
01:54:07,220 --> 01:54:10,220
meeting Linus Torvill. What? My wife ranks above Linus Torvill.

1507
01:54:10,220 --> 01:54:13,220
Debatable. You don't have kids. It's debatable.

1508
01:54:13,220 --> 01:54:16,220
Not debatable. What are you talking about? Not debatable.

1509
01:54:16,220 --> 01:54:21,620
You know, birth of my children, wedding day, these are ...

1510
01:54:21,620 --> 01:54:24,780
Those are maybe close second and third, you know? Yeah.

1511
01:54:24,780 --> 01:54:28,780
Fourth. I know I told my wife, I was like, sorry, honey.

1512
01:54:28,780 --> 01:54:35,580
Then she was like, yeah, you can sleep on the couch and I was like, understand.

1513
01:54:35,580 --> 01:54:40,180
Yeah. Fair enough. Sorry, but I just drove Linus Torvill home, so ...

1514
01:54:40,180 --> 01:54:44,580
I'm taking my Linus body pillow to the couch now.

1515
01:54:44,580 --> 01:54:48,540
Cool. Yeah. Anything else to ... Oh, right.

1516
01:54:48,540 --> 01:54:52,380
There's something that we wanted to present to Luke, so he couldn't be here.

1517
01:54:52,380 --> 01:54:56,460
Unfortunately. You were going to elaborate on this.

1518
01:54:56,460 --> 01:54:59,660
Yeah. Why was that? Planner of this video.

1519
01:54:59,660 --> 01:55:04,700
Sorry, what? Nowhere of things I might be interested in, but why ... I think there's ...

1520
01:55:04,700 --> 01:55:09,780
I texted you the Friday before the shoot, I think, or the Thursday before the shoot.

1521
01:55:09,780 --> 01:55:14,100
Right. That was when he told me the date of the shoot, so I had just the weekend too, because I'd

1522
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:18,300
been putting it off to read the autobiography, which I got signed by the way.

1523
01:55:18,300 --> 01:55:22,900
And the shoot was on Wednesday. I told you, I said, hey, I've done script review.

1524
01:55:22,900 --> 01:55:27,380
That means this is like 100% locked in now, even though it was already potentially locked

1525
01:55:27,380 --> 01:55:31,060
in before. I said, hey, it's going to be on Wednesday, just so you know.

1526
01:55:31,060 --> 01:55:36,420
You just responded with a sad face, and then a very angry word that I won't repeat, because

1527
01:55:36,420 --> 01:55:39,940
I don't have a flee button. Here, we can try and time it.

1528
01:55:39,940 --> 01:55:42,940
All right, three, two, fuck. I don't know if we got it. That was late for sure.

1529
01:55:42,940 --> 01:55:52,060
That was for sure. I'm so sorry. And then he just said, I won't be there, and then another sad face.

1530
01:55:52,060 --> 01:55:55,780
And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, buddy.

1531
01:55:55,780 --> 01:56:00,780
Today we were talking, and I was like, well, technically his flight and everything was

1532
01:56:00,780 --> 01:56:07,220
booked like three or four weeks ago. Which if the flight is booked, you could be pretty sure about when the shoot would be.

1533
01:56:07,220 --> 01:56:14,140
To be fair, we weren't because of current, at the time, how some airports were struggling

1534
01:56:14,140 --> 01:56:23,140
with delays. It was a case of we don't actually know, but I probably could have tried to give you

1535
01:56:23,140 --> 01:56:29,740
a heads up. Because right about that time is when I locked in the flights for the other thing.

1536
01:56:29,740 --> 01:56:33,420
So if I knew, I could have. No, if you were already locking it in, then.

1537
01:56:33,420 --> 01:56:38,020
No, I could have just not, though, at that time, if I knew there was an extremely major

1538
01:56:38,020 --> 01:56:41,020
conflict. Sorry. I don't know.

1539
01:56:41,020 --> 01:56:44,260
Blame Vance. He actually booked the flights. Oh, wow.

1540
01:56:44,260 --> 01:56:47,860
You did not just throw Vance under the bus. Well, that's his job.

1541
01:56:47,860 --> 01:56:50,860
I can't believe it. The executive assistant. I'm sorry.

1542
01:56:50,860 --> 01:56:53,860
Vance, you're very... Wow. Vance, you're very important.

1543
01:56:53,860 --> 01:56:56,860
That's crazy. Assisting ruining your birthday. That's crazy.

1544
01:56:56,860 --> 01:57:07,860
He's just not going to book any of my meetings with you now, and I'm just...

1545
01:57:07,860 --> 01:57:12,700
I mean, that could happen. He has that power. I'm just going to walk into your office.

1546
01:57:12,700 --> 01:57:15,900
He can throw you out. He has that power, too.

1547
01:57:15,900 --> 01:57:19,380
Good luck trying. I'm pretty heavy. I'm sorry.

1548
01:57:19,380 --> 01:57:21,380
Oh, wow. No comment.

1549
01:57:22,380 --> 01:57:26,100
Thanks, man. I have never... Vance would call you that.

1550
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:29,100
Don't... You can't... You can't say this.

1551
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:35,260
Let the record show... Let the record show that I have never explicitly commented.

1552
01:57:35,260 --> 01:57:38,260
So instead... It's on video. Instead of...

1553
01:57:38,260 --> 01:57:41,660
What's on video? You commenting on my size.

1554
01:57:41,660 --> 01:57:44,660
All... Wrong platform. Height.

1555
01:57:44,660 --> 01:57:50,020
It was the height that I was concerned about. No, but it was definitely not.

1556
01:57:50,020 --> 01:57:53,700
You looked at a go-kart and you said, hey, do you fit?

1557
01:57:53,700 --> 01:58:02,220
Right. Because... Because it was made by a Chinese company that, while they did design it for adults,

1558
01:58:02,220 --> 01:58:08,060
they had designed it for... Is this the one I've sat in? They designed it for adults of a shorter...

1559
01:58:08,060 --> 01:58:11,100
A shorter... My bones do not fit inside of it.

1560
01:58:11,100 --> 01:58:18,100
Altitudinal stature. You have also said on video, dang, I know you're not playing any connect games.

1561
01:58:19,060 --> 01:58:24,460
Because you are quite young. Implying because it wasn't hooked up.

1562
01:58:24,460 --> 01:58:27,460
No. Oh man. Because...

1563
01:58:27,460 --> 01:58:31,340
The Wii U just says oof.

1564
01:58:31,340 --> 01:58:34,940
Because you're quite young, you might not have as much nostalgia for it.

1565
01:58:34,940 --> 01:58:39,620
I also want you to cut some jokes from videos because I know if they ever get the platform,

1566
01:58:39,620 --> 01:58:43,620
it would be over. Oh man.

1567
01:58:43,620 --> 01:58:47,620
Anyways, we got your flip-lane sign signed. Yeah, so, consolation prize.

1568
01:58:48,340 --> 01:58:51,340
Luke asked us to get his float-plane sign signed.

1569
01:58:51,340 --> 01:58:54,340
Is that plugged in? No. Oh, well, we should plug it in.

1570
01:58:54,340 --> 01:58:57,340
I mean, it has a... I mean, it has a... It's proprietary.

1571
01:58:57,340 --> 01:59:00,340
I'm assuming they left it at my desk. Oh, yeah. Okay, that makes sense.

1572
01:59:00,340 --> 01:59:03,340
So, Luke has a little light-up float-plane sign and it is now officially signed...

1573
01:59:03,340 --> 01:59:09,140
It's made by the same person. It's exactly the same as the signs that they have at NASA, Mission Control.

1574
01:59:09,140 --> 01:59:12,140
It's made by the same person with the same materials. That's so cool.

1575
01:59:12,140 --> 01:59:16,140
It's a very cool artifact. And it is now signed by not only...

1576
01:59:16,900 --> 01:59:20,500
Linus Torvalds, but also... For some reason.

1577
01:59:20,500 --> 01:59:23,500
For some reason. For some reason. Linus is fast.

1578
01:59:23,500 --> 01:59:26,500
That's okay, Luke. We can remove that. You have to see if I can wash it off.

1579
01:59:26,500 --> 01:59:29,780
We can remove that. I think he's always just been too shy to ask, so...

1580
01:59:29,780 --> 01:59:33,780
I have been waiting 15 years... Do you not sign his checks?

1581
01:59:33,780 --> 01:59:36,780
No. No. Easy.

1582
01:59:36,780 --> 01:59:39,900
There has been no way for me to get his signature until now. So when...

1583
01:59:39,900 --> 01:59:44,260
So when Linus signed it, I was like, you know what?

1584
01:59:44,260 --> 01:59:47,860
I'll sign it to you. It was so awkward and weird.

1585
01:59:47,860 --> 01:59:52,340
Of course it was. To be fair, when I saw you doing this, I was like, should I stop him?

1586
01:59:52,340 --> 01:59:59,460
Because I was like... And then didn't. So it didn't let me know on time so I could make travel arrangements to actually be here

1587
01:59:59,460 --> 02:00:03,700
and then doesn't stop the wrong Linus from signing the sign.

1588
02:00:03,700 --> 02:00:08,300
I didn't want to make a scene. I was like, we can remove it.

1589
02:00:08,300 --> 02:00:13,540
Paint over it. You're that guy with the trolley problem that just doesn't pull the lever to make the obviously

1590
02:00:13,540 --> 02:00:16,540
better thing happen? No. I make sure I split the rail.

1591
02:00:16,540 --> 02:00:23,340
Multi-track drifting. Yeah. This is going to kill one person or seven million.

1592
02:00:23,340 --> 02:00:29,940
So instead of being here for the coolest shoot we've ever done to meet Linus Torvalds, I

1593
02:00:29,940 --> 02:00:34,660
was... You have my autograph. I have Linus's autograph on my thing.

1594
02:00:34,660 --> 02:00:37,820
I was getting trolled by Nick Harris from the lab the entire time.

1595
02:00:37,820 --> 02:00:43,100
He told the Qualcomm people it was my birthday and at dinner they sang Happy Birthday to

1596
02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:47,100
me. You just want to die.

1597
02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:57,300
You want to know something crazy? I have made it 39 years of my life never being sung to in a restaurant.

1598
02:00:57,300 --> 02:01:01,220
That was a stupid thing to say. We got to change that. No, I will walk out.

1599
02:01:01,220 --> 02:01:05,620
We'll follow you. I will. We can definitely hold him in place.

1600
02:01:05,620 --> 02:01:08,620
Oh yeah, both of us. Easily.

1601
02:01:08,620 --> 02:01:12,620
Especially how he comments on my stuff. So we can hold him in place. You're going to remember this anyway.

1602
02:01:12,620 --> 02:01:17,140
Dude. There's only $10,000.

1603
02:01:17,140 --> 02:01:21,860
We're not you. We remember things. If you see him in public on his birthday.

1604
02:01:21,860 --> 02:01:25,780
I have to get you back for the sign. No. Yeah.

1605
02:01:25,780 --> 02:01:28,780
That's funny. No. I signed his car.

1606
02:01:28,780 --> 02:01:32,580
It should be very funny. It's the same level of funny. Sorry, Nick Harris is trolling you.

1607
02:01:32,580 --> 02:01:39,540
Okay, yeah. So it's a very long work day. Nick Harris is trolling me the whole time as per usual, but he just keeps threatening

1608
02:01:39,580 --> 02:01:43,580
that he's going to tell them. But it's obviously like a you wouldn't do that.

1609
02:01:43,580 --> 02:01:46,580
And then he actually did it.

1610
02:01:46,580 --> 02:01:51,380
So at the end of the night, two Qualcomm people, very nice people come up and walk up

1611
02:01:51,380 --> 02:01:56,340
just to my side and are just like staring at me for a second. And I'm thoroughly confused.

1612
02:01:56,340 --> 02:02:00,220
I'm like, like, can I help you? We're out at dinner.

1613
02:02:00,220 --> 02:02:05,860
And then I hear the like and I look to my right and there's sparklers and it's just

1614
02:02:05,860 --> 02:02:08,860
the worst.

1615
02:02:09,300 --> 02:02:13,580
Okay, so that was also like day started at eight in the morning.

1616
02:02:13,580 --> 02:02:17,060
We're going actually, no, my day started.

1617
02:02:17,060 --> 02:02:20,060
No, they started about eight in the morning.

1618
02:02:20,060 --> 02:02:23,300
Working, working, working. We get on to the bus while we're moving.

1619
02:02:23,300 --> 02:02:26,740
I'm taking a call. We go do stuff while we're on the bus.

1620
02:02:26,740 --> 02:02:32,620
Again, I'm taking another call for most of the dinner. I have an air pod in because I'm in a call the whole time.

1621
02:02:32,620 --> 02:02:39,780
Like this is a very heavy work day. And then right when I get off the call, it's happy birthday singing the whole

1622
02:02:39,780 --> 02:02:47,500
time I'm getting messaged about how cool the line is. Torvald shoot that I can't be at is well, I get back to hotel crash because I'm

1623
02:02:47,500 --> 02:02:50,980
super tired, get a call at like four in the morning that the forum is down.

1624
02:02:51,300 --> 02:02:59,060
So I can't even sleep. It was like worst birthday ever potentially, which, you know, all things considered.

1625
02:03:00,460 --> 02:03:03,340
Not that it could have been. Yeah, it could have been worse. Could have been worse.

1626
02:03:03,460 --> 02:03:09,540
That is probably my worst birthday. Yeah, you could have. We could have had both Linus Torvald's and Gabe in here at the studio at the same

1627
02:03:09,540 --> 02:03:12,540
time, you could have missed that. That would have been worse.

1628
02:03:12,620 --> 02:03:15,540
I'm going to plan the game and shoot when you're gone. I will.

1629
02:03:19,300 --> 02:03:22,780
No, do it. Do it with just Luke. Yeah.

1630
02:03:23,500 --> 02:03:26,380
With Linus gone. Yeah, I think I would lose my job.

1631
02:03:28,300 --> 02:03:33,100
Worth it. Worth it. His body language since Dan said that is amazing.

1632
02:03:33,220 --> 02:03:37,060
Sometimes I clip, please. I should.

1633
02:03:37,540 --> 02:03:40,620
The light coming off of Linus was so strong.

1634
02:03:40,620 --> 02:03:44,500
I would lose my job. Not acceptable. Not acceptable.

1635
02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:50,100
That was amazing. We flew to Gabe's yacht for a Floatplane exclusive.

1636
02:03:51,660 --> 02:03:53,620
Sammy Elijah Luke.

1637
02:03:54,940 --> 02:04:01,340
We were Linus's like boats. You might be on a boat, but then still dangerous waters boys.

1638
02:04:04,100 --> 02:04:09,300
Didn't Luke miss the last guess? Yeah, he missed all of them. As far as I can tell Linus purposely plans them.

1639
02:04:09,300 --> 02:04:13,180
Dude, I had nothing to do with the dates. Apparently it's Vance.

1640
02:04:13,180 --> 02:04:17,300
I found out. How did you hurt him? So what I've learned today is that Vance hates me.

1641
02:04:17,300 --> 02:04:20,820
No, yeah, I agree. Well, it's official. I'm posting in general about it.

1642
02:04:21,980 --> 02:04:28,340
Pings the whole company. Vance hates Luke. Yeah, Zastaba in Twitch chat.

1643
02:04:28,340 --> 02:04:32,420
Linus doesn't pull rank off him, but when he does, it's to not miss a Gabe and

1644
02:04:32,620 --> 02:04:35,820
meet and greet. You better believe it. What do you mean not often?

1645
02:04:36,580 --> 02:04:40,260
I don't think I pull rank that much. Just trying to start.

1646
02:04:40,260 --> 02:04:43,500
I would over this, though. Oh, yeah, I hundred percent.

1647
02:04:43,500 --> 02:04:45,660
I'd be like, no, unacceptable.

1648
02:04:46,780 --> 02:04:51,620
It'd be really funny though. No, I'm debating if it's worth losing the job.

1649
02:04:51,620 --> 02:04:56,220
But you've got to be kidding me right now and try to send it to Dan.

1650
02:04:56,220 --> 02:05:02,020
But Nick got the frame that I turned from the people singing to him.

1651
02:05:02,900 --> 02:05:06,900
He has the frame of the video. The look of betrayal.

1652
02:05:08,020 --> 02:05:12,540
Top ten anime betrayals right because it's a weird moment because I don't want

1653
02:05:12,540 --> 02:05:17,540
to like obviously I don't want this to happen, but I also don't want to like.

1654
02:05:18,820 --> 02:05:22,900
Be a jerk to these people that I just met there. I sent it to you, Dan.

1655
02:05:22,900 --> 02:05:24,900
Do you want that on screen? Sure, yeah.

1656
02:05:26,180 --> 02:05:30,220
So I'm trying to like sorry spoilers. Yeah, are you ready?

1657
02:05:30,220 --> 02:05:31,220
Yeah, sure.

1658
02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:37,780
So I'm trying to like smile and be happy because I don't want to be a big jerk.

1659
02:05:37,780 --> 02:05:40,340
But then I'm also like, what the hell, Nick?

1660
02:05:47,540 --> 02:05:50,220
Oh, no. Oh, no.

1661
02:05:51,060 --> 02:05:54,460
That's way too funny. I'm kind of crying a little bit.

1662
02:05:56,460 --> 02:06:00,300
Oh, man. Oh, no.

1663
02:06:00,660 --> 02:06:03,740
So I just got trolled by like the whole world.

1664
02:06:05,620 --> 02:06:08,100
I'm sorry. I really did wish you could be there.

1665
02:06:10,500 --> 02:06:15,780
I really wanted to bail, but like it's it's the Friday or Thursday or whatever

1666
02:06:15,780 --> 02:06:22,460
before this thing that's been planned for like a month. It's our first like thing of this style with them and yada, yada, yada.

1667
02:06:22,460 --> 02:06:28,740
So it's like Luke's schmoozing and and and for for our Labs team to get us,

1668
02:06:28,740 --> 02:06:32,300
you know, connected with all the right technical people to make sure

1669
02:06:32,300 --> 02:06:36,060
that we can invest in it was a great trip stuff. And oh, yeah, no, for sure.

1670
02:06:36,060 --> 02:06:38,820
It was actually legitimately a great trip. So.

1671
02:06:39,500 --> 02:06:44,940
So it's like what I have rather been here to hang over like, you know,

1672
02:06:44,980 --> 02:06:46,660
yeah, 20 minute drive with him was pretty great trip.

1673
02:06:48,900 --> 02:06:53,740
Alrighty. Yeah, even I'm a little jealous. That might have been that was that's very cool.

1674
02:06:53,740 --> 02:06:57,740
To me, that is like actually what top one or two moments in my life.

1675
02:06:57,740 --> 02:07:05,020
Yeah, obviously, I was joking. That's extremely cool. Yeah, yeah, like that's like I didn't even I didn't even have one on there.

1676
02:07:05,020 --> 02:07:08,100
Good job. Good job. I didn't even have one on one time with them.

1677
02:07:08,100 --> 02:07:11,700
Like we went for coffee. I had a cookie. There's also something about car drives.

1678
02:07:11,700 --> 02:07:17,540
I don't know what it is. We talked about like YouTube and like how the creator economy works a little bit.

1679
02:07:17,860 --> 02:07:22,940
He talked about like working with his team and what that's like. Yeah, that's probably fascinating.

1680
02:07:24,100 --> 02:07:26,860
He honestly asked like more questions than I got to ask back.

1681
02:07:27,500 --> 02:07:33,220
I felt was like, man, this man's asking me about YouTube. I was like, again, I think this is part of the try everything once thing.

1682
02:07:33,220 --> 02:07:36,380
And that's very cool to be the potential facilitator of that.

1683
02:07:36,380 --> 02:07:41,300
That's still extremely cool. Yeah, one thing we talked about was the recent ad block change

1684
02:07:41,300 --> 02:07:45,740
that ended up impacting views and how that impact the creator economy

1685
02:07:45,740 --> 02:07:50,300
from a sponsorship side or how that impact just channel momentum.

1686
02:07:50,300 --> 02:07:54,220
And it was it seemed very interested in like, oh, that's a change

1687
02:07:54,220 --> 02:08:01,060
that I could see how ad blockers are just like to. But like it really impacted millions of people and I think to a certain degree

1688
02:08:01,060 --> 02:08:03,460
it's still happening and that's a whole other thing.

1689
02:08:05,260 --> 02:08:07,260
Yeah, very cool.

1690
02:08:08,740 --> 02:08:11,860
All right. I don't want to overstay my welcome. Thank you for letting me hang out.

1691
02:08:11,860 --> 02:08:16,140
So thanks for nothing. Yeah, I do my best.

1692
02:08:16,140 --> 02:08:19,780
All right. See you later, everyone. Have a good weekend. I do my best.

1693
02:08:19,780 --> 02:08:23,580
Have a good I got it. I can take it. Yeah, you're getting no fist bump from him.

1694
02:08:23,980 --> 02:08:28,260
Not after what happened. Yeah, it was still it was resentful.

1695
02:08:28,260 --> 02:08:32,780
I could tell. I could tell. There's not a lot of room back here.

1696
02:08:32,780 --> 02:08:38,340
By the way, that LTX 19 shirt, though. Yeah, damn, it's been a little worse for wear.

1697
02:08:38,340 --> 02:08:41,580
But for some reason, it's one of my favorite shirts. All right.

1698
02:08:41,580 --> 02:08:45,540
We have a couple of Floatplane things that we're supposed to do.

1699
02:08:45,540 --> 02:08:48,460
I owe Sammy a shout out for Floatplane.

1700
02:08:49,460 --> 02:08:54,460
But we finally filmed it special behind the scenes.

1701
02:08:54,460 --> 02:08:58,260
OK, so here, hold on. I'm supposed to click these things.

1702
02:08:58,260 --> 02:09:02,260
Oh, OK. So here's a behind the scenes of the intro. Am I supposed to play the whole thing?

1703
02:09:02,260 --> 02:09:09,580
Are these those like wooden ones that we've had forever? No, they got sharp ones for reasons that escape me.

1704
02:09:09,580 --> 02:09:14,660
They're actually sharp? Yeah. What? I don't know what we were thinking.

1705
02:09:14,660 --> 02:09:19,580
Is this the total? Is this the timestamp I'm supposed to go from? Let me just check what does Sammy want?

1706
02:09:19,580 --> 02:09:24,940
I don't know. OK. There's an. Oh, this is an unlisted short clip to watch on when.

1707
02:09:24,940 --> 02:09:28,620
Can we get an audio again? Yeah. Yeah.

1708
02:09:28,620 --> 02:09:35,740
This is great. I love that he's got a sword out and has his glasses right here.

1709
02:09:35,740 --> 02:09:39,540
The guy's so genuine, man. Ready?

1710
02:09:39,540 --> 02:09:42,540
One second. The flourish, dude.

1711
02:09:42,540 --> 02:09:47,100
This is awesome. There could be only one.

1712
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:52,220
That was actually pretty good.

1713
02:09:57,580 --> 02:10:00,660
Oh, I'm so pissed, dude. Oh, my God.

1714
02:10:07,380 --> 02:10:11,620
So the way it's. Oh, he's salty. The way it's going to cut together

1715
02:10:11,620 --> 02:10:17,420
is I'm going to start the video like a perfectly normal video.

1716
02:10:17,420 --> 02:10:22,460
OK. Sure, Dan did that. I'm going to start the video like a perfectly normal video.

1717
02:10:22,460 --> 02:10:26,020
You guys may remember the time that we built Linus Torvald's computer.

1718
02:10:26,020 --> 02:10:29,620
Well, guess what? We're going to do it today with the man himself.

1719
02:10:29,620 --> 02:10:33,580
And then it cuts to him like the doors like open

1720
02:10:33,580 --> 02:10:38,860
and will have like the highlander style, like the electricity and get some rock music or whatever.

1721
02:10:38,860 --> 02:10:45,940
And he comes in and he does the flourish. There can be only one. We'll get the like and then it's going to cut to me.

1722
02:10:45,940 --> 02:10:49,140
And I'm going to be like and then it's going to go in.

1723
02:10:49,140 --> 02:10:53,900
And it's like and then it's going to go to the wide. And I'm going to have my sword out just like randomly.

1724
02:10:53,900 --> 02:10:57,540
It'll be like and then we'll cut to a shot where we're both

1725
02:10:57,540 --> 02:11:02,620
like right close to each other, the one that you guys saw. Right. Kind of like the last thing where we're like we're

1726
02:11:02,620 --> 02:11:06,900
like eye contact and it'll be like and then it'll cut to Elijah

1727
02:11:06,900 --> 02:11:10,900
just sitting on his chair being like or you could just build the PC together.

1728
02:11:10,940 --> 02:11:14,220
And we're like, Oh, yeah, yeah, that could work.

1729
02:11:16,140 --> 02:11:21,540
It's going to be fun. It's going to be great. I am I'm so excited for you guys to see this video.

1730
02:11:22,900 --> 02:11:25,780
And that gives you some idea of what a good sport he was.

1731
02:11:25,900 --> 02:11:27,780
Yeah. About the whole thing. Yeah.

1732
02:11:29,220 --> 02:11:32,380
Public clip of Luke getting his Floatplane signed signed

1733
02:11:32,460 --> 02:11:35,300
for his birthday. Oh, OK.

1734
02:11:36,900 --> 02:11:40,900
Screenshotting my DMS. Oh, it's at the end.

1735
02:11:40,900 --> 02:11:44,380
Someone on this account already watched it. Oh, that's hilarious. OK, hold on.

1736
02:11:44,380 --> 02:11:48,380
Oh, so this is like one second going to get it. OK, this is great.

1737
02:11:48,380 --> 02:11:54,380
This is great. So the plane is our is our video platform and Luke.

1738
02:11:54,620 --> 02:12:01,980
Dude, I was so nervous. Like anyway, so I feel bad because my signature is the

1739
02:12:01,980 --> 02:12:02,980
obvious thing ever.

1740
02:12:05,460 --> 02:12:10,620
Anyway, you guys will have to subscribe to Floatplane. You can get the whole thing, but I can show you the part

1741
02:12:10,620 --> 02:12:13,820
where I sign it. Hold on. Is that in here? Let's see.

1742
02:12:13,820 --> 02:12:17,340
Sure, but I'm going to sign it too. That's wild.

1743
02:12:17,340 --> 02:12:20,340
Ask him to guess which one is which.

1744
02:12:20,340 --> 02:12:21,340
Yeah, I mean.

1745
02:12:27,340 --> 02:12:31,340
Hey, I mean, it's the start of a thing. You could collect all the tech linuses.

1746
02:12:31,340 --> 02:12:34,340
Yeah, I think I already did. Yeah, nice.

1747
02:12:34,340 --> 02:12:38,340
Good job. You like one hundred percenting things.

1748
02:12:41,340 --> 02:12:44,340
You can check out the full videos at LMG.GG.

1749
02:12:44,340 --> 02:12:47,340
There's going to be another video where staff ask him

1750
02:12:47,340 --> 02:12:52,340
questions after the shoot. That'll be coming on Monday and there will probably be more.

1751
02:12:52,340 --> 02:12:55,340
Also, if you are subscribed to Floatplane, it ensures you

1752
02:12:55,340 --> 02:12:58,340
won't miss any of our Black Friday, Cyber Monday deals

1753
02:12:58,340 --> 02:13:01,340
because they are coming early for subscribers.

1754
02:13:02,340 --> 02:13:03,340
Okay.

1755
02:13:05,340 --> 02:13:08,340
Yeah, cool. I think that's it. Should we?

1756
02:13:08,340 --> 02:13:11,340
Oh my God. How long have we been live? Two hours.

1757
02:13:13,340 --> 02:13:16,340
We've only done two topics. Nice.

1758
02:13:16,340 --> 02:13:19,340
Yeah, I think it's merge messages time.

1759
02:13:19,340 --> 02:13:21,340
We're just about in one after dark.

1760
02:13:23,340 --> 02:13:26,340
No, we have a lot of topics left though. I know.

1761
02:13:26,340 --> 02:13:31,340
Oh my God. There's so many topics. Let's do maybe some CW stuff.

1762
02:13:31,340 --> 02:13:34,340
Merch massages. Let's not bother with the merge messages.

1763
02:13:36,340 --> 02:13:40,340
No, we have product launches and it is November.

1764
02:13:40,340 --> 02:13:45,340
We had a pretty slow September, October because that is not

1765
02:13:45,340 --> 02:13:48,340
the holiday shopping season and now it is the holiday

1766
02:13:48,340 --> 02:13:55,340
shopping season. We've got some announcements. If you guys missed the very beginning of the show, we are

1767
02:13:55,340 --> 02:14:00,340
adding a couple of big products to the RGB collection.

1768
02:14:00,340 --> 02:14:07,340
I like this one. We have this freaking sick navy sweater that is 100% cotton

1769
02:14:07,340 --> 02:14:10,340
knit with little multi-nep yarn flex.

1770
02:14:10,340 --> 02:14:15,340
So we'll probably get a better shot of it on this. Actually, Luke, can you fire up the site and then we can show

1771
02:14:15,340 --> 02:14:18,340
people what it looks like. It's got a clean, polished look.

1772
02:14:18,340 --> 02:14:21,340
It's great for the office, but colorful specs keep it fun

1773
02:14:21,340 --> 02:14:25,340
for holiday hangouts. And we also have, Luke, do you have that up already?

1774
02:14:25,340 --> 02:14:28,340
It's loading. Yeah, it's fine. I get it.

1775
02:14:28,340 --> 02:14:32,340
We also have the RGB beanie.

1776
02:14:32,340 --> 02:14:36,340
Yeah, there you go. There's the sweater. Wow, it really doesn't capture the color of that.

1777
02:14:36,340 --> 02:14:39,340
It's darker than that. It's darker than that. It's tough.

1778
02:14:39,340 --> 02:14:42,340
Get me a close-up of the multi-nep though. Please tell me that's on there.

1779
02:14:42,340 --> 02:14:47,340
There we go. Yes. So it's just a little touch of fun.

1780
02:14:47,340 --> 02:14:50,340
Little touch of fun, just like our RGB shirts have been in

1781
02:14:50,340 --> 02:14:53,340
the past. Then I'm going to go back to...

1782
02:14:53,340 --> 02:15:01,340
There we go. We also have our beanies in both black and gray and both

1783
02:15:01,340 --> 02:15:04,340
regular and short depths.

1784
02:15:04,340 --> 02:15:08,340
There you go. We've got the two different sizes. We've got the two different beanies.

1785
02:15:08,340 --> 02:15:11,340
And then Luke, if you want to fire up the product page there,

1786
02:15:11,340 --> 02:15:15,340
boom. Warm, cozy, and ties right in with the rest of the RGB lineup

1787
02:15:15,340 --> 02:15:22,340
or looks great on its own. Shop the RGB collection at LMG.GG slash RGB.

1788
02:15:22,340 --> 02:15:25,340
And while you're on the site, don't forget...

1789
02:15:25,340 --> 02:15:28,340
Actually, if you want to fire up the $100, blah, blah, thing at the top.

1790
02:15:28,340 --> 02:15:31,340
No, I'm on it. It's just going to take me a second. Cool.

1791
02:15:31,340 --> 02:15:37,340
Don't forget we have our holiday loot drop happening right now. Spend $100 or more and you could win a pair of Sennheiser

1792
02:15:37,340 --> 02:15:41,340
headphones or if you're really lucky, an ASUS ROG Xbox

1793
02:15:41,340 --> 02:15:44,340
Ally X.

1794
02:15:44,340 --> 02:15:50,340
And, but wait, there's more. We have our buy more, save more apparel deal running until

1795
02:15:50,340 --> 02:15:57,340
November 26th. You can save up to 25% when you stack apparel items.

1796
02:15:57,340 --> 02:16:00,340
Oh yeah, go ahead and click that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good.

1797
02:16:00,340 --> 02:16:03,340
That one right there. So if you buy two items, I think it's...

1798
02:16:03,340 --> 02:16:06,340
Shoot, what is it? 10%? It shows, I think, if I click on one of the things.

1799
02:16:06,340 --> 02:16:11,340
There you go. You can see right here for your own reference. So mix and match two or more clothing items and save.

1800
02:16:11,340 --> 02:16:15,340
Two items is 10% off. Three is 15. Four is 20 and five plus items is 25.

1801
02:16:16,340 --> 02:16:20,340
So load it up. The cart to be clear. We've got printed t-shirts back in stock.

1802
02:16:20,340 --> 02:16:26,340
We've got these great new RGB products. You can find everything that's eligible at...

1803
02:16:26,340 --> 02:16:30,340
Oh, shoot. I don't actually see the link to everything that's eligible.

1804
02:16:30,340 --> 02:16:33,340
Well, you can go to the main site and then you can click this banner.

1805
02:16:33,340 --> 02:16:37,340
And then you want to scroll down real quick. The WAN hoodie is on fire.

1806
02:16:37,340 --> 02:16:40,340
People are loving the new WAN hoodie. Makes a lot of sense.

1807
02:16:40,340 --> 02:16:45,340
It's very cool. Well, it's everything with the Buy More Save More tag, I guess.

1808
02:16:45,340 --> 02:16:48,340
Yep. So there's actually a lot of stuff.

1809
02:16:48,340 --> 02:16:53,340
The underwear is actually flying off the shelves as well. I forgot how long we were out of stock.

1810
02:16:53,340 --> 02:16:57,340
Dude, it was a real... I'm restocking. It's been a long time.

1811
02:16:57,340 --> 02:17:00,340
Yeah, I know. So there's some pent-up demand.

1812
02:17:00,340 --> 02:17:05,340
Anyway, since we're live, I didn't mean to do that.

1813
02:17:05,340 --> 02:17:08,340
It was unintentionally quite good.

1814
02:17:08,340 --> 02:17:12,340
Nice. Quality Linus.

1815
02:17:14,340 --> 02:17:19,340
What was I going to say? Oh, yeah, right. And since we're live, now's a great time to place your order on LTT Store

1816
02:17:19,340 --> 02:17:23,340
because you can send a merge message. All you got to do is add something to your cart.

1817
02:17:23,340 --> 02:17:27,340
And then whenever we're live, there'll be a box where you can send a merge message.

1818
02:17:27,340 --> 02:17:30,340
This makes much more sense than Streaks.

1819
02:17:30,340 --> 02:17:33,340
Is that what it's called? That's... I don't know.

1820
02:17:33,340 --> 02:17:37,340
Hype Train. Hype Train. They did a Hype Train in Twitch chat because...

1821
02:17:37,340 --> 02:17:42,340
Watch this! Because we acknowledged them for the first time in years.

1822
02:17:42,340 --> 02:17:47,340
And I told them that's dumb. And what you should do if you want to throw money at your screen...

1823
02:17:47,340 --> 02:17:52,340
I mean, by all means, use your Prime membership or subscription or whatever they're called on Twitch.

1824
02:17:52,340 --> 02:17:55,340
Use that one. I don't care. But don't spend money on that.

1825
02:17:55,340 --> 02:17:58,340
Spend money on LTTStore.com where...

1826
02:17:58,340 --> 02:18:02,340
Whether we acknowledge your message by having Dan reply to it.

1827
02:18:02,340 --> 02:18:07,340
There he is. Or he forwards it to someone who can get you a better answer.

1828
02:18:07,340 --> 02:18:11,340
Or he throws it up on the screen like that one that's a bit up there.

1829
02:18:11,340 --> 02:18:15,340
Or he curates it for me and Luke to answer. You will still get high quality merchandise in the mail.

1830
02:18:15,340 --> 02:18:18,340
You can type a message. You can be anonymous or have your name show.

1831
02:18:18,340 --> 02:18:21,340
You can change the color of your merge message.

1832
02:18:23,340 --> 02:18:27,340
You will have to opt into email communication about your message if you have a question that Dan can't answer.

1833
02:18:27,340 --> 02:18:31,340
So that is sort of worth knowing. And then you go ahead and place your order.

1834
02:18:31,340 --> 02:18:34,340
Alright Dan, do you want to show us how merge messages works? Hit us with a couple.

1835
02:18:34,340 --> 02:18:37,340
Oh sure, we got lots today. Things are selling quite quickly.

1836
02:18:37,340 --> 02:18:40,340
Yep, it's that season. It is.

1837
02:18:40,340 --> 02:18:43,340
That time of year. Hello LLD. I finished my engineering degree.

1838
02:18:43,340 --> 02:18:51,340
Next year I'll do my master's degree. And I've been working for a month on my thesis about outside in tracking with RF.

1839
02:18:51,340 --> 02:18:54,340
What features are relevant here?

1840
02:18:56,340 --> 02:18:59,340
What? Features.

1841
02:19:00,340 --> 02:19:03,340
Are relevant here? This feels truncated.

1842
02:19:04,340 --> 02:19:06,340
Potentially, maybe.

1843
02:19:07,340 --> 02:19:14,340
I know that the new one uses cameras where some of the other ones use other forms.

1844
02:19:14,340 --> 02:19:16,340
Like the Oculus uses a different type.

1845
02:19:17,340 --> 02:19:23,340
And outside in with the original Oculus, I guess CV1 was camera.

1846
02:19:23,340 --> 02:19:27,340
Yes, that was cameras. And then lighthouses are laser if I remember correctly.

1847
02:19:27,340 --> 02:19:33,340
Yes. Man, but then technically light is RF.

1848
02:19:33,340 --> 02:19:35,340
Technically, isn't it?

1849
02:19:36,340 --> 02:19:37,340
So like...

1850
02:19:39,340 --> 02:19:48,340
Strange. Yeah, I'm sorry. I think this is truncated and I don't know if we're going to be able to answer that in any meaningful way.

1851
02:19:50,340 --> 02:19:52,340
Darn. Up next.

1852
02:19:53,340 --> 02:19:56,340
Okay. Yes. Let's do that.

1853
02:19:57,340 --> 02:20:00,340
Sorry. Favorite Taylor Swift song.

1854
02:20:00,340 --> 02:20:06,340
Okay. You're not going to give them anything good? Oh, do you just want to get through this quickly so we can do more topics and you can go home eventually?

1855
02:20:06,340 --> 02:20:08,340
Is that what this is about? What do you mean?

1856
02:20:10,340 --> 02:20:13,340
I thought we were moving on from that merge message. Did I miss something?

1857
02:20:13,340 --> 02:20:17,340
Favorite Taylor Swift song. I just mean, this is the most...

1858
02:20:17,340 --> 02:20:23,340
It's the most important week of LMG basically in years at this point because we have Linus Torvalds here

1859
02:20:23,340 --> 02:20:26,340
and we have the huge Steam announcement.

1860
02:20:26,340 --> 02:20:29,340
And you ask me what Taylor Swift song I like?

1861
02:20:29,340 --> 02:20:34,340
I mean, that's why they hid their name. It is anonymous because they don't know how to answer good questions.

1862
02:20:34,340 --> 02:20:37,340
You mean ask good questions? Yeah, sorry.

1863
02:20:37,340 --> 02:20:40,340
You're the one who doesn't know how to select good questions for us to answer.

1864
02:20:40,340 --> 02:20:43,340
I don't know. I thought you were a Swifty.

1865
02:20:43,340 --> 02:20:46,340
I mean, you're the dump truck. You share that?

1866
02:20:46,340 --> 02:20:49,340
Yeah. You're both blonde? I have never talked about...

1867
02:20:49,340 --> 02:20:53,340
I would never talk about Taylor Swift's butt, okay?

1868
02:20:53,340 --> 02:20:56,340
Sorry, thighs. Yes, we both have thighs.

1869
02:20:56,340 --> 02:20:59,340
We have that in common. Damn right you do. Yes.

1870
02:20:59,340 --> 02:21:02,340
That's something we both have in common. That goes crazy.

1871
02:21:02,340 --> 02:21:05,340
That's something we both have in common. That goes crazy.

1872
02:21:05,340 --> 02:21:09,340
That's something we both have in common. That's something we both have in common.

1873
02:21:09,340 --> 02:21:14,340
What I'm saying is factual.

1874
02:21:14,340 --> 02:21:18,340
They both have legs. You know what?

1875
02:21:18,340 --> 02:21:24,340
I'm going to go with one of her songs that speaks very strongly to me.

1876
02:21:24,340 --> 02:21:28,340
You need to calm down. I'm going to go with you need to calm down.

1877
02:21:28,340 --> 02:21:31,340
You like hearing that? It helps you? It speaks very strongly to you?

1878
02:21:31,340 --> 02:21:34,340
No, no, no, no, no. Linus Sebastian needs to calm down?

1879
02:21:34,340 --> 02:21:37,340
What? You just have no idea what you're talking about.

1880
02:21:37,340 --> 02:21:43,340
Dude, if this was a to everyone question, I literally don't know a single one of her songs.

1881
02:21:43,340 --> 02:21:46,340
I guarantee you do. No, I'm sure I know the song.

1882
02:21:46,340 --> 02:21:49,340
Romeo and Juliet. Sure. Yeah.

1883
02:21:49,340 --> 02:21:52,340
Or what's it called? I'm not going to know the names of them. Love Story, whatever.

1884
02:21:52,340 --> 02:21:55,340
I guarantee you I've heard her songs. I just don't know the names of them.

1885
02:21:55,340 --> 02:22:00,340
I see, I see. Apparently I don't either. I just called it Romeo and Juliet, some Swiftie I am.

1886
02:22:00,340 --> 02:22:03,340
Yeah, thigh reduction just happened.

1887
02:22:03,340 --> 02:22:06,340
Yeah. No, no, they're still there.

1888
02:22:06,340 --> 02:22:12,340
I have been losing weight though. I think I haven't been eating enough to keep up with how active I've been lately.

1889
02:22:12,340 --> 02:22:15,340
That's a thing. Yeah. I think I need to eat more.

1890
02:22:15,340 --> 02:22:18,340
I don't have time during the day though. I'm back on that.

1891
02:22:18,340 --> 02:22:21,340
On what? Not eating enough on purpose.

1892
02:22:21,340 --> 02:22:24,340
Oh, really? I'm back on the reduction train. You're cutting?

1893
02:22:24,340 --> 02:22:27,340
Yeah. Well, my wrist is so messed up I can't work out properly.

1894
02:22:27,340 --> 02:22:30,340
So it's like, well, time to do the other thing. Okay, fair enough.

1895
02:22:30,340 --> 02:22:35,340
Yeah. I was trying to think, it was very frustrating for a while and then I was just like, you know,

1896
02:22:35,340 --> 02:22:38,340
I'll just cut then. Yeah, make lemonade.

1897
02:22:38,340 --> 02:22:41,340
Yeah, exactly. It's fine. Beyonce style.

1898
02:22:41,340 --> 02:22:44,340
It's fine. I'll make it work. Yeah.

1899
02:22:44,340 --> 02:22:47,340
And I'll just get back to it when things are better. That's fine.

1900
02:22:47,340 --> 02:22:51,340
That was more like, was that a P Diddy thing?

1901
02:22:51,340 --> 02:22:54,340
I get it. Hold on, hold on. I'll be right back one second.

1902
02:22:54,340 --> 02:23:01,340
Ah, he's going to go do it.

1903
02:23:01,340 --> 02:23:05,340
I feel like giving someone else a ding just gave him a significant amount of dopamine.

1904
02:23:05,340 --> 02:23:13,340
Does he need his own bell? I was concerned for my dry sweater for a second there.

1905
02:23:13,340 --> 02:23:16,340
Oh, no. Gross.

1906
02:23:16,340 --> 02:23:19,340
Gross. How about another one?

1907
02:23:19,340 --> 02:23:22,340
Moving on. Okay, let's do one more. Hi, DLL.

1908
02:23:22,340 --> 02:23:27,540
How do you deal with issues of sibling rivalry, both in your kids for Linus and with your

1909
02:23:27,540 --> 02:23:31,340
siblings growing up? We have some more underwear. Stock win.

1910
02:23:31,340 --> 02:23:34,340
Are we out of stock? Did we sell them all? We sell them so quickly.

1911
02:23:34,340 --> 02:23:37,340
Did we really? Oh, people love them.

1912
02:23:37,340 --> 02:23:45,340
That sucks. I wanted some of those. I'm going to start submitting my dog requests for you.

1913
02:23:45,340 --> 02:23:52,340
Would you prefer that? No, I feel like we should use the like, is Luke going to buy it metric?

1914
02:23:52,340 --> 02:23:56,340
Because every time I want to buy something on the store, she's gone.

1915
02:23:56,340 --> 02:24:02,340
I think I'm going to cost you after the show and we will sit down and just put stuff in

1916
02:24:02,340 --> 02:24:05,340
there for you. Maybe. Damn it.

1917
02:24:05,340 --> 02:24:08,340
Okay. Anyway. Crap.

1918
02:24:08,340 --> 02:24:16,340
Yeah. Medium, large, and XL are all gone.

1919
02:24:16,340 --> 02:24:19,340
Which store are you on? Hold on. I'm on the USA Store.

1920
02:24:19,340 --> 02:24:22,340
There's still some more in stock on the USA Store. I'm on global.

1921
02:24:22,340 --> 02:24:26,340
Yeah. Medium, large, and XL, by the way.

1922
02:24:26,340 --> 02:24:29,340
It's not even just like one of them. It's both designs.

1923
02:24:29,340 --> 02:24:33,340
Yeah. Meanwhile, on the USA Store, it's medium, large, or out for the solid.

1924
02:24:33,340 --> 02:24:38,340
And it's just large out for the prism and confetti design.

1925
02:24:38,340 --> 02:24:41,340
Small is also sold out on the solid.

1926
02:24:41,340 --> 02:24:44,340
Okay. Well, anyway.

1927
02:24:44,340 --> 02:24:47,340
Of all the problems to have. Yeah.

1928
02:24:47,340 --> 02:24:50,340
No, no, no, no. Yeah. It's not the worst problem.

1929
02:24:50,340 --> 02:24:53,340
I know. Well, it's not a good problem. No, no.

1930
02:24:53,340 --> 02:24:58,340
It's not good, but it's...

1931
02:24:58,340 --> 02:25:03,340
It would be worse if no one wanted those. It's really hard to find the right balance when you're stocking.

1932
02:25:03,340 --> 02:25:07,340
Yes. And now that we have multiple distribution centers, it's even more challenging.

1933
02:25:07,340 --> 02:25:12,340
For sure. And it's only going to get more challenging in the future as, like, obviously, you know,

1934
02:25:12,340 --> 02:25:16,340
it's not like it's not occurred to us that it would get to have a European DC, for instance.

1935
02:25:16,340 --> 02:25:19,340
Oh, my... I'm getting roasted by Flipway Chat.

1936
02:25:19,340 --> 02:25:24,340
Oh. Seth Hyland asks, what percentage of LTT sales are during WAN Show?

1937
02:25:24,340 --> 02:25:27,340
Less than you'd probably think. A fair bit.

1938
02:25:27,340 --> 02:25:33,340
Like, WAN Show is a big driver. We often launch products on WAN Show, so that inflates the numbers a little bit.

1939
02:25:33,340 --> 02:25:38,340
But when we don't, it's not like we don't have other mechanisms for promoting new products

1940
02:25:38,340 --> 02:25:42,340
and stuff like that, and they'll still be quite strong.

1941
02:25:42,340 --> 02:25:46,340
No, it's a very serious business for us.

1942
02:25:46,340 --> 02:25:50,340
I mean, I think I meant... did I mention earlier on the show today that...

1943
02:25:50,340 --> 02:25:55,340
They got to meet Linus Torvalds with Homie? That we're finally doing How Does LMG Spend Money?

1944
02:25:55,340 --> 02:25:58,340
Oh, I don't know if you did or not. Did I talk about it last week?

1945
02:25:58,340 --> 02:26:01,340
Do you guys know about this already? Okay, yeah.

1946
02:26:01,340 --> 02:26:06,340
So basically, I've had more exposure to, you know, expense reports in the last week than

1947
02:26:06,340 --> 02:26:10,340
I probably have in the last five years, because I just don't really look that closely at that

1948
02:26:10,340 --> 02:26:13,340
stuff as part of my daily work. Sure.

1949
02:26:13,340 --> 02:26:17,340
And the merch business is huge.

1950
02:26:17,340 --> 02:26:22,340
On inventory, we spend millions and millions and millions of dollars a year.

1951
02:26:22,340 --> 02:26:25,340
It's crazy.

1952
02:26:25,340 --> 02:26:34,340
And it's so hard to get it right, to not overbuy, but not underbuy.

1953
02:26:34,340 --> 02:26:42,340
Especially when... I mean, you go on the store, and almost every product is a bespoke, created product.

1954
02:26:42,340 --> 02:26:45,340
Yeah, we really have no idea.

1955
02:26:45,340 --> 02:26:53,340
I was talking to someone about this recently. We really have no idea how to chill with things, like ever.

1956
02:26:53,340 --> 02:26:58,340
Why would we chill? Like ever, even when it would be totally fine.

1957
02:26:58,340 --> 02:27:01,340
We're like, nah. Yeah, nah. Why would we chill?

1958
02:27:01,340 --> 02:27:07,340
Let's make a pen, but instead of it being a normal pen.

1959
02:27:07,340 --> 02:27:10,340
Okay, this one is relatively low effort.

1960
02:27:10,340 --> 02:27:15,340
By the way, that was very cool. We can't really talk about where we were.

1961
02:27:15,340 --> 02:27:18,340
No, we can't at all. Or who we were talking to.

1962
02:27:18,340 --> 02:27:28,340
But Luke and I got on very, like, strong authority that PTM7950 is goaded.

1963
02:27:28,340 --> 02:27:31,340
Yes. Like, extremely strong. Pretty much.

1964
02:27:31,340 --> 02:27:35,340
Like, I can't tell you who it is, but the highest...

1965
02:27:35,340 --> 02:27:38,340
Pretty maximum strong. Authority. It was God.

1966
02:27:38,340 --> 02:27:44,340
And then there's this individual in terms of their authority on this subject.

1967
02:27:44,340 --> 02:27:48,340
It was pretty, it was pretty validating. I don't know if I disagree.

1968
02:27:48,340 --> 02:27:55,340
Yeah. Yeah. So that was, that was pretty cool.

1969
02:27:55,340 --> 02:27:58,340
Oh. Oh my God.

1970
02:27:58,340 --> 02:28:01,340
I won't leave me alone, dude. What?

1971
02:28:01,340 --> 02:28:09,340
What is this? Oh, charged nuclei said, and you let Luke meet them?

1972
02:28:09,340 --> 02:28:14,340
Just every time, every time you bring up anything.

1973
02:28:14,340 --> 02:28:17,340
It wasn't my fault, Luke. I didn't know. No, I know.

1974
02:28:17,340 --> 02:28:20,340
It was the person who recently left. I know.

1975
02:28:20,340 --> 02:28:23,340
I really, I would have fought for you if there was anything that could have been done.

1976
02:28:23,340 --> 02:28:29,340
You know I would have paid for you to get a flight back. I knew it was upcoming, but legitimately until that I think Thursday I had no idea it was

1977
02:28:29,340 --> 02:28:32,340
like the next week. I know, I'm sorry. It was way too late.

1978
02:28:32,340 --> 02:28:37,340
I mean, it is what it is. But at least you have that sign sign.

1979
02:28:37,340 --> 02:28:43,340
That is actually really cool. From both of us.

1980
02:28:43,340 --> 02:28:46,340
That sign is like one of my favorite things.

1981
02:28:46,340 --> 02:28:50,340
And then, yeah. I'm surprised you don't like the one for the Walmart.

1982
02:28:50,340 --> 02:28:54,340
No, that's super cool. Oh, I thought you like gave it back to me or something, didn't you?

1983
02:28:54,340 --> 02:28:57,340
I think, no, you asked me to store it. Yeah.

1984
02:28:57,340 --> 02:29:00,340
Because you didn't have anywhere to put it. Yes. Yeah, okay, never mind.

1985
02:29:00,340 --> 02:29:04,340
And I still have the plane too. I'm still like holding on to that for you.

1986
02:29:04,340 --> 02:29:07,340
That's yours. That's not mine. I don't like want it forever.

1987
02:29:07,340 --> 02:29:15,340
Luke, do you ever... It's not even a cool way though. Do you ever display the one of one thing that you have that I gave you from the place with

1988
02:29:15,340 --> 02:29:18,340
the people? No, that's secret. Good.

1989
02:29:18,340 --> 02:29:21,340
Okay. Do I know about that? You've seen it.

1990
02:29:21,340 --> 02:29:25,340
It unravels like that.

1991
02:29:25,340 --> 02:29:29,340
Oh, that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you should never show anyone that.

1992
02:29:29,340 --> 02:29:32,340
That is private. Yeah, cool. Very private.

1993
02:29:32,340 --> 02:29:35,340
All right. What are we supposed to...

1994
02:29:35,340 --> 02:29:38,340
What was the word for message? Very behind. Right.

1995
02:29:38,340 --> 02:29:42,340
Sibling rivalry. Sibling rivalry, yeah. How do I put this...

1996
02:29:42,340 --> 02:29:47,340
How do I put this lightly? I don't really feel any rivalry with my siblings.

1997
02:29:47,340 --> 02:29:50,340
We've... You gotta not put the... How do I put this lightly first?

1998
02:29:50,340 --> 02:29:54,340
Well, no, I just... If you don't put the... How do I put this lightly first, then that statement is totally fine.

1999
02:29:54,340 --> 02:30:00,340
I think people could take it the wrong way though. I think by putting how do I put this lightly before it, people will now take it the wrong

2000
02:30:00,340 --> 02:30:03,340
way. And if you just didn't say that, it would have been...

2001
02:30:03,340 --> 02:30:07,340
No offense, but I actually have a pretty healthy relationship with my family.

2002
02:30:07,340 --> 02:30:13,340
Yeah. No, my point is that none of us have tried to achieve even remotely the same things.

2003
02:30:13,340 --> 02:30:19,340
Like, my siblings have zero interest in being an online influencer across the board.

2004
02:30:19,340 --> 02:30:25,340
Zero. So, like, how do you measure that kind of...

2005
02:30:25,340 --> 02:30:29,340
Yeah. Like, there's no rivalry there.

2006
02:30:29,340 --> 02:30:32,340
Yeah. And like... It's also...

2007
02:30:32,340 --> 02:30:35,340
Yeah, like wildly different types of success.

2008
02:30:35,340 --> 02:30:39,340
Yeah. And I mean, it's...

2009
02:30:39,340 --> 02:30:46,100
If I'm looking at my sibling rivalry, I think my brother has achieved very immense levels

2010
02:30:46,100 --> 02:30:51,340
of success. In very different things. He got the exact career that he wanted.

2011
02:30:51,340 --> 02:30:54,540
Yep. In the exact way that he wanted it and is excelling with it.

2012
02:30:54,540 --> 02:30:57,740
Seems to be nailing it on the family side. Nailing on the family side.

2013
02:30:57,740 --> 02:31:00,740
Pun intended. He's got a couple kids. He's got...

2014
02:31:00,740 --> 02:31:03,740
Yeah. Yeah. And that's all going pretty well.

2015
02:31:03,740 --> 02:31:06,740
Sorry, Rich. Little graphic, but... You won't mind.

2016
02:31:06,740 --> 02:31:10,580
I know. So, like, yeah, I don't see any...

2017
02:31:10,580 --> 02:31:14,260
I hear what you're saying. It's completely different realms. Yep.

2018
02:31:14,260 --> 02:31:18,260
Yeah. Yeah. Luke informed me you're good at it.

2019
02:31:18,260 --> 02:31:23,260
In ways that make sense to him and to you, but not to the audience right now, so...

2020
02:31:23,980 --> 02:31:26,980
No further elaborate... I'm just going to be taken... What?

2021
02:31:26,980 --> 02:31:30,480
Extremely weirdly. I almost feel like I need to explain that now. No, I'm uncunkable.

2022
02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:33,480
I don't think you can. I don't think you can. I don't think you should.

2023
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:37,980
We've got Linus' thighs and now this. What's going on?

2024
02:31:37,980 --> 02:31:41,980
I don't think you can. The success rate was high. It's like the chicken.

2025
02:31:41,980 --> 02:31:45,660
No, it's not like the chicken. Our family's just... It's not like the chicken.

2026
02:31:45,660 --> 02:31:51,740
It's nothing like chicken.

2027
02:31:51,740 --> 02:31:56,620
Chicken is chicken, not...

2028
02:31:56,620 --> 02:31:59,620
Chicken pregnant. I mean, you could check on.

2029
02:31:59,620 --> 02:32:02,620
I think that's allowed.

2030
02:32:02,620 --> 02:32:08,620
And we're cooked.

2031
02:32:08,620 --> 02:32:15,620
Why did Linus Torvult ever agree to work with us?

2032
02:32:15,620 --> 02:32:19,120
Because he never heard of our channel. Never seen the WAN Show.

2033
02:32:19,120 --> 02:32:27,200
There's no way. There's no way he's ever seen the WAN Show. I actually specifically asked him if he looked into any controversies around us and he said

2034
02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:32,520
he explicitly doesn't, which used to be my policy.

2035
02:32:32,520 --> 02:32:42,360
I'm happy that hasn't bit him in the butt. And then I collabed with Hassan and collabed with Tumad and I was on a bit of a streak

2036
02:32:42,360 --> 02:32:52,080
there for a bit. You were, yeah. I do really hate where if there's literally any level of contact, people assume that you've

2037
02:32:52,080 --> 02:32:56,880
done deep dives on everyone around. That's insane and needs to stop.

2038
02:32:56,880 --> 02:33:03,800
Or that you agree with them on everything? Yeah. Now, literally every single thing they've ever said, you now fullheartedly agree with.

2039
02:33:03,800 --> 02:33:07,640
There's people I know and am friends with where I can name a multitude of things that

2040
02:33:07,640 --> 02:33:11,520
I don't agree with them on. I feel like that should be fairly normal.

2041
02:33:11,520 --> 02:33:14,760
But anyways, that's a whole other topic. Let's go.

2042
02:33:14,760 --> 02:33:17,760
Oh yeah. XCC. There you go.

2043
02:33:17,760 --> 02:33:24,840
Nice. And to be clear, I'm not saying that I like hate those people or whatever.

2044
02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:32,160
I'm just saying that. They just have been controversial figures. I didn't research them at all and I didn't realize that they were quite polarizing.

2045
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:35,680
Yeah. That's all I'll say. Yeah.

2046
02:33:35,680 --> 02:33:38,680
Because that's all that needs to be said. I think we came out of those fairly unscathed.

2047
02:33:38,680 --> 02:33:41,800
Yeah. I think so. I think so.

2048
02:33:41,800 --> 02:33:45,800
Yeah. I think the one that there was the most concern about was Tumad.

2049
02:33:45,800 --> 02:33:50,120
Yes. And I was just like, yeah, what? He bombed some Zoom calls at that point.

2050
02:33:50,120 --> 02:33:54,280
I think he got more controversial later. I think that's true.

2051
02:33:54,280 --> 02:33:57,360
We also kind of, I think, I think all of those figures.

2052
02:33:57,360 --> 02:34:04,200
I think every single, every single collab in that collab streak has become more controversial

2053
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:11,440
over time. I think that's true. But I think they were people who that was to a certain degree their shtick.

2054
02:34:11,440 --> 02:34:20,200
So it was somewhat inevitable. And I think, yeah, I'm actually ex, I can't tell.

2055
02:34:20,200 --> 02:34:30,280
Oh my God, AJ, did you make it admin only?

2056
02:34:30,280 --> 02:34:36,400
Don't add more admin only emotes. Did he seriously add the you being upset about the birthday song?

2057
02:34:36,400 --> 02:34:41,960
I absolutely did not send it to him on teams so that he could do that.

2058
02:34:41,960 --> 02:34:49,920
Oh my God, this is amazing. Oh, you probably, oh, you probably need that new command.

2059
02:34:49,920 --> 02:34:53,600
What's the, you're going to need a new command.

2060
02:34:53,600 --> 02:35:01,760
What is the, what is the command for it? Cash clear cash with a capital C, how do I, how do I type this?

2061
02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:06,880
Oh yeah, the spam has begun.

2062
02:35:06,880 --> 02:35:13,120
Cash cleared. No, no, no, no, no, for the first C is lowercase, the second key is C is capital.

2063
02:35:13,120 --> 02:35:16,440
Oh, everybody's doing it wrong. My bad. I said it.

2064
02:35:16,440 --> 02:35:21,480
I said it poorly. It's, it's clear all lowercase and then capital C.

2065
02:35:21,480 --> 02:35:26,760
Cash. All right, C-A-S-H.

2066
02:35:26,760 --> 02:35:32,200
As for sibling rivalry with my kids, I think we, why would you do this?

2067
02:35:32,200 --> 02:35:35,200
People are actually doing it. Why would you do that? It's great.

2068
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:41,880
That's, that's how I get all their money from LTT Store. They type clear cash, it all comes to me, they clear their cash.

2069
02:35:41,880 --> 02:35:45,640
It reups their subscription every single time. Yeah.

2070
02:35:45,640 --> 02:35:49,320
This is the real life train. As for, as for kids, same thing.

2071
02:35:49,320 --> 02:35:54,880
My kids don't aspire to the same things. Like they're, they're very, very different.

2072
02:35:54,880 --> 02:35:59,880
I'd say that with the daughters, it's, it's something that we're going to be paying more

2073
02:35:59,880 --> 02:36:02,920
and more close attention to as they like hit puberty and stuff.

2074
02:36:02,920 --> 02:36:06,800
And they start to, you know, think about body image and stuff like that.

2075
02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:09,960
But so far it hasn't really been a major issue.

2076
02:36:09,960 --> 02:36:15,360
Like it's not like, it's not like my daughter's care that my son's team went 36 and 0 for

2077
02:36:15,360 --> 02:36:18,080
volleyball this year. Based.

2078
02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:27,200
The, the gym coach who's been there long enough to, long enough that, oh, how do I say

2079
02:36:27,200 --> 02:36:34,480
this? No, she doesn't help you. Oh, basically she's been there a very long time and she said to her knowledge, no team

2080
02:36:34,480 --> 02:36:40,720
at the school has ever had an undefeated season in any grade in any sport, which was

2081
02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:44,320
pretty cool. So they, they went completely undefeated this year.

2082
02:36:44,320 --> 02:36:50,640
That's epic. Just swept everything. Unfortunately, there were no provincials for his grade volleyball this year.

2083
02:36:50,640 --> 02:36:56,720
Oh, but there will be at higher grades, but there will be at higher grades. So he's, um, so he's, he's getting pretty, he's getting pretty into it.

2084
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:03,080
I told him, I told him, don't forget about badminton. Don't forget to play with me. Sometimes people are typing slash.

2085
02:37:06,440 --> 02:37:09,760
Yeah, that'll just unlock everything. That makes sense.

2086
02:37:11,440 --> 02:37:15,200
And I don't know when more underwear stock is coming. I'm sorry. Okay. We should move on to a new topic.

2087
02:37:16,120 --> 02:37:24,600
Microsoft exact says Windows is evolving into an agentic OS and gets cooked in the

2088
02:37:24,600 --> 02:37:31,840
replies, although in fairness, Windows 11 start menu does seem like it's getting a

2089
02:37:31,840 --> 02:37:37,160
pretty good redesign. How's that in fairness? I mean, they're doing something, something positive.

2090
02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:44,280
I think it's, but also. Sure. Microsoft's current head of Windows, Pavan Daveluri posted on X to say that the future

2091
02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:52,880
of the platform is one that is evolving into an agentic OS. The tweet has seen pushback with various opinions, pretty much all stating the same

2092
02:37:52,880 --> 02:37:56,880
thing. Nobody wants to use Windows primarily through an AI middleman.

2093
02:37:57,920 --> 02:38:01,880
The Windows start menu is receiving its first significant makeover since 2021 and

2094
02:38:01,880 --> 02:38:05,480
will be delivered to all users as part of the November 11th update.

2095
02:38:05,680 --> 02:38:09,280
I do like it more. The menu is now scrollable. Uh, here, do you want it?

2096
02:38:09,520 --> 02:38:13,080
Sure. So you can move through your apps in one place and the interface is now larger with

2097
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a responsive layout that adapts to the screen size automatically.

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However, you cannot resize it manually for comparison.

2099
02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:27,320
Yeah. The start settings page is being updated and will no longer feature the layout option.

2100
02:38:27,400 --> 02:38:33,920
If you disable all the recommended settings, you'll also have the ability to hide the recommended section of the start menu, which honestly is probably good.

2101
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:38,160
I don't need recommendations for what it was that I was hoping to open right now

2102
02:38:38,160 --> 02:38:40,640
because you have no way of knowing that.

2103
02:38:41,480 --> 02:38:44,480
Um, I'm going to kill our discussion question here.

2104
02:38:44,480 --> 02:38:49,920
And we're just going to kind of move on because yeah, that's all I think I really

2105
02:38:49,920 --> 02:38:53,520
feel the need to say about that. Oh, this one doesn't have a header so I can't collapse it.

2106
02:38:55,160 --> 02:38:58,640
Downer. Um, Luke, do you want to pick one?

2107
02:38:59,560 --> 02:39:02,840
Sure. Uh, let's talk about Ubisoft.

2108
02:39:03,080 --> 02:39:06,000
Oh, no. Okay.

2109
02:39:06,760 --> 02:39:10,000
Okay, like it would do in a throwback to the old house.

2110
02:39:10,560 --> 02:39:14,400
Keep on digging. Yeah, we had this thing on WAN Show.

2111
02:39:14,400 --> 02:39:18,760
It's been a very long time where there was just, it felt like every week.

2112
02:39:18,840 --> 02:39:25,320
Yeah. Six months, like I don't know how long it was a long time is every, every week,

2113
02:39:25,360 --> 02:39:30,600
every other week at least there was some terrible news out of Ubisoft or they

2114
02:39:30,600 --> 02:39:34,400
were doing something awful, which was insane because that was also at like a

2115
02:39:34,440 --> 02:39:40,760
pretty fairly peak time for Ubisoft. That was like Assassin's Creed four and like, like all these like really big,

2116
02:39:40,760 --> 02:39:44,720
like their games are doing well, but they were just doing really horrible

2117
02:39:44,720 --> 02:39:48,760
things. Yeah. Or like the launch would be super buggy and they'd fix it later, but it was

2118
02:39:48,760 --> 02:39:53,760
just like unnecessary floating eyeballs and stuff that was like slightly later

2119
02:39:53,760 --> 02:39:57,920
than what I was talking about, but definitely still during keep on digging. Yeah. So we even made a shirt.

2120
02:39:57,920 --> 02:40:03,680
It had a shovel on it. Nick Van Burkle designed it. That was back when just like we didn't have designers.

2121
02:40:03,680 --> 02:40:07,320
We just had our video editors who had some familiarity with like talented people.

2122
02:40:07,320 --> 02:40:11,640
Yeah. The Adobe suite. So anyway, all right. What's up with Ubisoft right now?

2123
02:40:11,680 --> 02:40:15,400
Ubisoft delayed its half year earnings report, which is a really big deal for

2124
02:40:15,400 --> 02:40:21,000
public companies and requested halted trading until its release on Thursday,

2125
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:27,960
November 13th, the day Ubisoft was to release its half year.

2126
02:40:27,960 --> 02:40:33,640
Yeah. The day of crazy was to release its half year 2025, 2026 earnings report.

2127
02:40:33,880 --> 02:40:38,680
The company instead announced a delay and requested a halt to the trading of

2128
02:40:38,680 --> 02:40:42,320
its shares and bonds on Euro next.

2129
02:40:43,480 --> 02:40:49,360
All right. Engach, it says delays to earning reports may happen due to accounting issues,

2130
02:40:49,520 --> 02:40:55,360
but speculates halting trading of the company's shares could portend major news

2131
02:40:55,520 --> 02:40:59,720
such as a sale or Ubisoft becoming a private entity again.

2132
02:40:59,720 --> 02:41:07,880
Oh, interesting. Tencent recently took a 25% stake of new Ubisoft subsidiary Vantage Studios,

2133
02:41:08,600 --> 02:41:12,400
which now manages the company's major titles like Assassin's Creed, Far Cry and Rainbows.

2134
02:41:12,400 --> 02:41:18,040
Why would they do that? That's weird because they want to own gaming.

2135
02:41:18,520 --> 02:41:23,720
No. Why would why would Ubisoft split off their major titles into a subbrand?

2136
02:41:24,200 --> 02:41:25,960
Because Ubisoft is f***ed.

2137
02:41:27,280 --> 02:41:30,760
Oh, so sync the bad ship.

2138
02:41:31,320 --> 02:41:33,720
Move everything else off and do a OK.

2139
02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:39,320
All right, makes sense. There was talk of Tencent taking Ubisoft private last year.

2140
02:41:39,320 --> 02:41:45,320
Yikes. This follows contract buyouts for some employees of the company just last month.

2141
02:41:46,120 --> 02:41:49,120
This is the kind of like financial

2142
02:41:49,120 --> 02:41:53,440
finangling that means that no matter how poorly managed a company is,

2143
02:41:53,440 --> 02:41:56,600
once it's big enough, it almost feels like there's no consequences for the

2144
02:41:56,600 --> 02:42:01,120
leadership because they can just make moves and then.

2145
02:42:02,520 --> 02:42:07,800
Yeah, keep shoveling money into the sacks of money that they sleep on, presumably.

2146
02:42:07,800 --> 02:42:11,760
Like, yeah, the individual developers will suffer in all of this,

2147
02:42:11,760 --> 02:42:17,560
like sort of reorg acquisition nonsense. But the actual the leadership that put them in a position

2148
02:42:17,560 --> 02:42:20,640
where they weren't profitable enough to just keep doing what they were doing

2149
02:42:20,640 --> 02:42:24,960
in the first place, if anything, will probably benefit.

2150
02:42:25,240 --> 02:42:30,400
I, I, yeah, I, I saw a comment go by about this,

2151
02:42:30,400 --> 02:42:34,400
but I also had the thought and I lost the comment. So I can't see the person's name, so sorry.

2152
02:42:34,400 --> 02:42:38,560
But the new game industry, Canada.

2153
02:42:39,280 --> 02:42:42,360
Yikes. Oh, yeah. EA is now purchased.

2154
02:42:42,360 --> 02:42:47,040
Yep. Ubisoft is. Well, let's see. But something clearly something funky something.

2155
02:42:48,080 --> 02:42:53,040
Yeah. Yeah. Star Eye says China, Ubisoft and Saudi EA crazy times pretty much.

2156
02:42:54,040 --> 02:42:59,680
Yikes. We should probably do sponsor spots at some point here.

2157
02:42:59,680 --> 02:43:03,520
This is or not carry on. Not you can go for it.

2158
02:43:03,520 --> 02:43:07,760
I was going to have a conversation about like the industries that you can get into in Canada and how that's like.

2159
02:43:08,640 --> 02:43:10,640
I had a conversation on a recent trip about.

2160
02:43:12,880 --> 02:43:15,200
OK, I didn't realize Adreno.

2161
02:43:18,160 --> 02:43:18,720
Radeon.

2162
02:43:23,200 --> 02:43:23,600
Oh.

2163
02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:34,080
Oh, yeah. Wasn't it a magic on? Didn't they like acquire that IP or something from AMD?

2164
02:43:34,080 --> 02:43:40,160
And hold on. There was some speculation that they might have acquired some part of ATI.

2165
02:43:41,120 --> 02:43:45,600
Imagine on previously. ATI. Imagine on was a series of media co-processors.

2166
02:43:45,600 --> 02:43:49,360
Hold on. Hold on. Produced by ATI later AMD.

2167
02:43:49,360 --> 02:43:52,320
AMD later sold it to Qualcomm in 2009. Yeah.

2168
02:43:52,400 --> 02:43:57,760
So that's where Adreno comes from. I actually didn't realize that was where Adreno came from.

2169
02:43:57,760 --> 02:44:01,120
Had no idea. I thought Imagine on was a cooler name personally.

2170
02:44:01,120 --> 02:44:06,000
Imagine on is pretty cool. Yeah. But anyways, Adreno comes from there.

2171
02:44:06,560 --> 02:44:10,000
But ATI was Canadian for people that don't know.

2172
02:44:10,000 --> 02:44:12,880
Yeah. We also had Nortel.

2173
02:44:13,840 --> 02:44:17,200
Blackberry. A lot of our. But yeah, sure.

2174
02:44:17,200 --> 02:44:20,320
A lot of our used to be able to get a rim job in Canada. No problem.

2175
02:44:20,320 --> 02:44:23,280
And now there are no rim jobs. We even exported rim jobs.

2176
02:44:26,720 --> 02:44:30,800
But yeah, a lot of our tech has been bought and moved away.

2177
02:44:30,800 --> 02:44:34,800
Yep. Now our gaming industry is being bought and moved away.

2178
02:44:34,800 --> 02:44:40,400
Undo P. And it's like, what do you go to school for to get into industry for in Canada now?

2179
02:44:42,000 --> 02:44:45,360
There is still a lot of stuff. You get into medical care and then you move.

2180
02:44:45,360 --> 02:44:49,520
That is a space that is getting worse over time.

2181
02:44:50,480 --> 02:44:54,000
And that's not good. And I hope we start doing things to start.

2182
02:44:55,600 --> 02:44:58,400
Flow plain chat. You got to get your mind out of the gunner. Okay.

2183
02:44:58,960 --> 02:45:03,200
It's a research in motion job. Yeah. What are you talking about?

2184
02:45:03,200 --> 02:45:05,200
Grow up. What are they even talking about? Grow up.

2185
02:45:06,480 --> 02:45:12,960
What is it though? I'm not going to tell you. Your virgin mind cannot.

2186
02:45:15,680 --> 02:45:19,520
Virgin tongue. Anyways, I'm sad about this. There have been, oh, wow.

2187
02:45:21,520 --> 02:45:25,040
There are a lot of Ubisoft games that I've really loved over the years.

2188
02:45:26,880 --> 02:45:30,720
Anno is fantastic. I've been a huge fan of the Assassin's Creed line.

2189
02:45:31,760 --> 02:45:35,120
A bunch of the especially. I don't know how much credit Ubisoft can take for Anno.

2190
02:45:36,880 --> 02:45:43,280
Yeah, sure. Fair enough. Yeah. Like that team's been around killing it since like the 90s.

2191
02:45:43,280 --> 02:45:46,320
And as far as I know, they're like kind of isolated.

2192
02:45:46,480 --> 02:45:52,000
Yeah, Ubisoft just publishes for them as far as I can tell. Oh, I didn't actually realize it was that separated.

2193
02:45:52,000 --> 02:45:59,680
My bad. Anno game. I thought they were a thing within, but I don't, I've not like looked this up.

2194
02:46:00,960 --> 02:46:06,240
Oh, apparently some Anno games have been developed by Ubisoft Bluebyte.

2195
02:46:07,040 --> 02:46:10,960
German video game holding company owned by Ubisoft was founded in blah, blah, blah.

2196
02:46:10,960 --> 02:46:13,360
So I thought they were just all max design.

2197
02:46:14,480 --> 02:46:17,520
I didn't realize there was even two. So I don't know.

2198
02:46:19,280 --> 02:46:22,800
Oh, no defunct 2004. Okay. Yeah. It shows you what I know. Actually.

2199
02:46:22,800 --> 02:46:29,040
Okay. Nope. Nope. Wait. By sunflowers and collaboration with related to the next thing again.

2200
02:46:29,840 --> 02:46:31,760
Based in Schladming.

2201
02:46:33,680 --> 02:46:37,520
But company is best known for creating the Anno series. The company was closed down in 2004.

2202
02:46:37,520 --> 02:46:43,520
Okay. Yep. It shows you what I know. It's been a while. But anyways, they've made a lot of games that I have really loved.

2203
02:46:44,160 --> 02:46:47,440
But the way the company has been run has always been highly questionable.

2204
02:46:47,440 --> 02:46:49,360
Hence the old keep on digging memes.

2205
02:46:50,480 --> 02:46:54,480
The creation of Ubisoft Connect or whatever the heck it's even called now.

2206
02:46:54,480 --> 02:46:58,720
You play was pretty whack.

2207
02:47:00,400 --> 02:47:02,400
There's been a lot of things that have just been like

2208
02:47:05,840 --> 02:47:09,920
not great. So I'm not surprised they're in a tough spot,

2209
02:47:09,920 --> 02:47:13,440
but it sucks to lose even more Canadian industry.

2210
02:47:13,440 --> 02:47:18,160
And I understand like it's not like EA just like deleted their offices in Canada or anything, but

2211
02:47:20,080 --> 02:47:25,040
I wouldn't be surprised if the focus shifted. Yeah. I know it's about as Ubisoft as it gets.

2212
02:47:25,040 --> 02:47:25,600
It looks like.

2213
02:47:28,160 --> 02:47:31,280
Developer for Anno 1800 is Ubisoft Bluebyte.

2214
02:47:31,280 --> 02:47:38,080
Yep. So it's it's first party. Yep. Sorry about that. Max Design only did the first two back in 1998 and 2002.

2215
02:47:38,080 --> 02:47:40,800
Make sure I get that right for you guys. I didn't play those ones.

2216
02:47:44,400 --> 02:47:47,360
So yeah, I was honestly mostly sad.

2217
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What am I looking at? It doesn't look like it.

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It does, but I don't think it actually is. No, it's definitely not, but it looks like it.

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Yeah, it was a lot more. I mean, some people enjoy the puzzle for the sake of doing the puzzle.

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But I got to say for me, it was a bit more fun. It was more interactive anyway.

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With my kids, it comes with kind of like a checklist of things that you can look for

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and things you can talk to them about after the fact. So it's not just like, okay, it's done.

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All right, there you go, Dan. Yeah, no, it's not about going home.

2274
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We're just two and a half hours in. Is that the problem?

2275
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It's two and a half hours in. You want to go home? You know that we like doing seven hour WAN shows.

2276
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The audience, you know, I really, yeah.

2277
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You really, yeah. One time. Thank you, Luke. Wow. I want us to start relatively close to on time and go past midnight.

2278
02:53:03,920 --> 02:53:07,280
One time. Why? I'm not saying it has to be now.

2279
02:53:07,280 --> 02:53:10,880
That's too long. Do you need a why? You need to listen to WAN Show for that long. It's not about that.

2280
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It's literally nobody. Somebody's going to want to. Literally nobody. Look how many people have tuned out already.

2281
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See the graph? It's gone down. They're bored. They're tired of us.

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And I don't blame them. That's okay. Look at us. That's okay.

2283
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It's another podcast with a bunch of white dudes.

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A lot of the same flavor of ice cream.

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Vanilla, baby. Just a lot of vanilla. Vanilla. It's just the color of the hair in your vanilla ice cream.

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Would you like darker hair in your vanilla ice cream? End of lot.

2287
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Yeah, there's so much.

2288
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Why is there so much hair in this ice cream?

2289
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It's entirely too much. It's mostly hair with some vanilla.

2290
02:53:51,360 --> 02:53:55,360
I mean, none of them are balding and they all have beards. What's happening right now?

2291
02:53:57,360 --> 02:53:59,840
My question is where should the hair come from?

2292
02:54:00,640 --> 02:54:03,280
Is it time to get an office cat? Yeah.

2293
02:54:04,240 --> 02:54:09,920
I went to grab a granola bar from the cupboard before the WAN Show today

2294
02:54:10,480 --> 02:54:13,920
and my first two attempts, the package had been opened

2295
02:54:14,800 --> 02:54:20,240
by what appeared to be rodent teeth. Yeah. Did I tell you about the one time I took a meeting on the WAN set?

2296
02:54:20,960 --> 02:54:24,800
No. I had to get a meeting. A meeting with Taryn went a little bit long.

2297
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So I couldn't make it over the lab. I needed somewhere to sit.

2298
02:54:28,080 --> 02:54:32,240
I checked the conference room, conference room taken. I don't have time to just keep checking all the different areas.

2299
02:54:32,240 --> 02:54:35,600
So I just ran out of the WAN set because I knew it would be free. I had a meeting here.

2300
02:54:36,400 --> 02:54:38,880
I had to take a picture really quick for the WAN hoodie

2301
02:54:39,680 --> 02:54:44,000
and I picked up that sign, your A plus sign and held it in front of me.

2302
02:54:44,000 --> 02:54:48,080
And there was, I think, three spiders on the back and they just left me alone.

2303
02:54:48,080 --> 02:54:52,240
So I just held it with them there, put it back. Then while I was taking the meeting, sitting on the set,

2304
02:54:52,240 --> 02:54:56,640
I saw not one but two different mice running around the set.

2305
02:54:58,640 --> 02:55:01,920
We could use a cat. We could maybe use two cats, one for each building.

2306
02:55:02,720 --> 02:55:09,440
Of each major building? So we used to have an employee that not only was quite allergic to cats,

2307
02:55:09,440 --> 02:55:13,200
but not willing to overcome it, like not into cats.

2308
02:55:13,200 --> 02:55:17,920
Got it. I think we would have to, maybe this could be a subject for the All Hands on Monday.

2309
02:55:18,720 --> 02:55:21,200
Maybe we could, maybe we could just basically go.

2310
02:55:22,160 --> 02:55:24,720
Is anyone going to Health Reasons Veto a Cat?

2311
02:55:25,440 --> 02:55:29,600
Well, we can't do that in public. We would have to allow them to do it privately.

2312
02:55:29,600 --> 02:55:32,720
Give us, let us know. Yeah, let us know.

2313
02:55:32,720 --> 02:55:37,200
Yeah. But otherwise, we think we should, we think we need some cats.

2314
02:55:37,200 --> 02:55:42,800
We could use something. The lab is infested by flies.

2315
02:55:42,800 --> 02:55:45,840
It's been the solution for thousands of years. Yeah, literally.

2316
02:55:45,840 --> 02:55:49,760
At this point, you know, little houses that they go into or whatever,

2317
02:55:49,760 --> 02:55:53,040
we're reinventing the wheel. The wheel is a cat. Yeah.

2318
02:55:53,040 --> 02:56:04,640
So, okay. All right. I, at this point, I'm looking at it going, okay, and if someone does object to it,

2319
02:56:04,640 --> 02:56:07,520
I think I would want to kind of talk to them and go, okay, well, like, here's the issue.

2320
02:56:08,240 --> 02:56:14,080
Like, are the allergies worse than, because we clearly can't get the rodents under control?

2321
02:56:14,080 --> 02:56:18,240
Maybe. And maybe. And maybe the answer is yes. So, the answer could absolutely be yes.

2322
02:56:18,240 --> 02:56:26,800
And that would be fine. Yeah. It depends on the severity. Yeah. But are the allergies worse than the risk of, like, rodent infestation being a health hazard?

2323
02:56:26,800 --> 02:56:30,080
Because we've tried. We've got traps fricking everywhere. That's pretty bad.

2324
02:56:30,080 --> 02:56:33,840
They are. But it's a huge space. They literally ran past one.

2325
02:56:33,840 --> 02:56:39,760
So much clutter. I was trying to get a video to prove that I saw two separate mice on the WAN Show set.

2326
02:56:39,760 --> 02:56:42,960
And while trying to film them, which I failed to do because they were quick,

2327
02:56:44,400 --> 02:56:49,520
I didn't think of it fast enough. I saw one of the traps that they've just very clearly ran past.

2328
02:56:49,520 --> 02:56:53,040
Yeah. All right.

2329
02:56:53,040 --> 02:56:55,120
I think it's, I think it might be time.

2330
02:56:56,160 --> 02:57:00,080
Arrakis says ferrets are better mousers and are rarely an allergy concern.

2331
02:57:00,080 --> 02:57:03,840
Yeah, but they stink. Stinky. Yeah. Stinky litter box.

2332
02:57:04,640 --> 02:57:08,000
Whereas cats are, we could get a couple of robot litter boxes.

2333
02:57:08,000 --> 02:57:13,920
There's a few people that have said that would be a bad idea, but I haven't seen a single person say why I do have cat allergies.

2334
02:57:13,920 --> 02:57:15,520
And it can cause massive long-term issues.

2335
02:57:17,520 --> 02:57:21,600
Massive long-term issues. I've never heard of a cat allergy. Causing long-term issues.

2336
02:57:21,600 --> 02:57:26,080
Yeah. Neither of us know what's going on. So this might just, you know, not be able to be a thing.

2337
02:57:26,080 --> 02:57:31,760
Yeah. And if it's not able to be a thing, then it won't be a thing. Keep having mice or we'll put out more traps or maybe both.

2338
02:57:32,320 --> 02:57:36,240
Yeah. Can you get one of those hairless ones?

2339
02:57:36,240 --> 02:57:41,440
Oh, I'd be so down. It's the hair that- I'd be so down. We could get a Peterbald. Isn't it the like dandruff or whatever that's usually the issue?

2340
02:57:41,440 --> 02:57:44,560
The dander. But they, they apparently have like way less.

2341
02:57:46,320 --> 02:57:49,600
Yeah. Peterbald. Let's go. Hyproallergenic.

2342
02:57:50,160 --> 02:57:54,560
Apparently you can also give them food, which reduces it. So maybe you get one of these and the food.

2343
02:57:55,760 --> 02:57:57,520
Peterbald. Good. Look at them.

2344
02:58:00,480 --> 02:58:04,320
It's the saliva, not the hair. Wouldn't that make it easier to deal with it?

2345
02:58:04,320 --> 02:58:07,440
Yeah. Because they don't have to lick themselves as much, I think. The, the hairless ones.

2346
02:58:10,320 --> 02:58:11,840
Peterbald. I don't know what's going on.

2347
02:58:13,840 --> 02:58:17,200
They're not truly hypoallergenic because the blah, blah, blah.

2348
02:58:17,200 --> 02:58:20,560
Well, their lack of fur can mean less shedding. And therefore fewer airborne allergens.

2349
02:58:20,560 --> 02:58:23,760
A person with a cat allergy can still have a reaction to the proteins in their saliva.

2350
02:58:23,760 --> 02:58:28,640
This is all AI though. So who knows. There are breeds that are supposed to have less.

2351
02:58:31,120 --> 02:58:35,040
I like Elijah's plan. Can we give everyone a gun to shoot the mice? This isn't Texas.

2352
02:58:35,040 --> 02:58:35,440
That's a-

2353
02:58:38,560 --> 02:58:43,760
Airgun? It's Canada. Well, because of the marifles. Yeah. As long as it's under 495 feet per second, sure.

2354
02:58:44,800 --> 02:58:47,840
No problem. They're gonna test it. Is it 495? I can't remember.

2355
02:58:47,840 --> 02:58:52,240
I don't know. Paintball guns. Carrette said, I'm omega allergic to cats.

2356
02:58:52,240 --> 02:58:54,640
We'll break out in hives. I imagine other people are as well.

2357
02:58:55,440 --> 02:58:57,920
It's possible. Surprising to me how common that is.

2358
02:58:59,360 --> 02:59:04,960
Interesting. Apparently allergies kind of had like a peak when we were kids.

2359
02:59:04,960 --> 02:59:11,200
And apparently some of them are actually declining now. Like peanut allergies are on the decline now.

2360
02:59:11,200 --> 02:59:16,240
Because parents are being encouraged to expose their kids earlier or something.

2361
02:59:16,800 --> 02:59:21,120
I was reading about that the other day. Pretty wild. Yeah, dude. This is such a crazy fact.

2362
02:59:21,760 --> 02:59:26,240
Try Lumen in full plane chat said there's no rats in Alberta. Have you seen the rat population map of the world?

2363
02:59:26,240 --> 02:59:29,840
Yeah, it's pretty funny. It's nuts. I actually brought that up with Linus Torvalds.

2364
02:59:30,560 --> 02:59:32,960
His comeback was, oh, even rats don't want to live there.

2365
02:59:34,000 --> 02:59:37,360
I was like, wow, damn. Shots fired.

2366
02:59:37,360 --> 02:59:40,400
He seems funny. I've seen some of his stuff. Oh yeah, he's super funny.

2367
02:59:40,400 --> 02:59:46,480
Oh, there we go. There's just an Alberta sized hole.

2368
02:59:50,480 --> 02:59:59,040
Incredible. Oh yeah. Wow. I did have it right. 495 FPS is the below maximum until it's considered a firearm in Canada.

2369
03:00:00,240 --> 03:00:05,200
Neat. I love this website that I found.

2370
03:00:05,760 --> 03:00:08,560
Cities without rodents in the world. Alberta, Canada.

2371
03:00:12,480 --> 03:00:16,240
Not a city, but OK.

2372
03:00:16,240 --> 03:00:19,840
Good try. Yeah. Solid effort. Yeah. Oh, man.

2373
03:00:21,040 --> 03:00:26,640
Google will allow experienced users to install Android apps that were made by

2374
03:00:27,280 --> 03:00:32,960
unverified developers. Google is walking back their plan to lock down sideloading on Android.

2375
03:00:32,960 --> 03:00:36,400
It's good news. In August, the company announced that starting next year,

2376
03:00:36,400 --> 03:00:40,960
Android users would only be able to install apps made by verified developers.

2377
03:00:40,960 --> 03:00:45,520
Now Google is saying that experienced users will still be able to install apps from wherever

2378
03:00:45,520 --> 03:00:49,680
they want, although it will take a few extra steps and a handful of warnings.

2379
03:00:50,240 --> 03:00:54,480
Google claims that the idea here is to curb malware without completely shutting the door

2380
03:00:54,480 --> 03:01:01,280
on Android's openness. The change appears to be a response to heavy pushback from developers, industry groups,

2381
03:01:01,280 --> 03:01:06,880
and everyday users who just didn't love Google deciding what trusted means.

2382
03:01:06,880 --> 03:01:13,600
For good reason. The discussion question here is, how do you combat companies just arbitrarily determining

2383
03:01:13,600 --> 03:01:17,280
what an experienced user is or a trusted app?

2384
03:01:17,280 --> 03:01:21,040
Because that's the one thing where I said, what does it mean? What are experienced users?

2385
03:01:21,040 --> 03:01:25,120
Experienced user means that you can navigate some prompts.

2386
03:01:27,440 --> 03:01:30,640
Basically what I'm imagining, because they've already got warnings.

2387
03:01:30,640 --> 03:01:34,160
So I'm imagining that maybe you have to do something that's kind of hidden,

2388
03:01:34,160 --> 03:01:37,840
like the tap five times to become a developer or whatever thing.

2389
03:01:37,840 --> 03:01:44,480
That's, I'm imagining right now. Overall, I see this as a positive step and I'm going to try not to be pessimistic about it.

2390
03:01:44,480 --> 03:01:46,080
You gotta get those braces fixed, man.

2391
03:01:48,320 --> 03:01:51,840
When can you, when can you get it done? How long is it going to be?

2392
03:01:51,840 --> 03:01:56,240
What am I supposed to do? What would you have me do? Get the, is it just the rubbers?

2393
03:01:56,800 --> 03:02:00,320
Is it even that? What is going on? What, what is the effect?

2394
03:02:00,320 --> 03:02:03,680
What is discovered? I do not put rubbers in my mouth. What is it?

2395
03:02:05,120 --> 03:02:08,000
At least not unaccompanied. Wow.

2396
03:02:09,120 --> 03:02:09,520
Wow.

2397
03:02:12,160 --> 03:02:15,760
Who is it? So right now. I don't wear those. It's dentist.

2398
03:02:19,120 --> 03:02:24,640
So who cares who? You have one that isn't miscolored in the middle of two that are discolored.

2399
03:02:24,640 --> 03:02:28,000
So I can explain that. I can explain that.

2400
03:02:28,800 --> 03:02:35,120
So right now they are, I have a stronger bar in the top than I did a week ago.

2401
03:02:35,120 --> 03:02:42,240
They put like a thicker one in and in order to keep my teeth from separating,

2402
03:02:42,240 --> 03:02:47,360
like shifting apart, they put what's called a power chain on it and basically,

2403
03:02:47,360 --> 03:02:53,760
I know, right? Instead of individual elastics, it's a chain of elastics that holds the bar in place

2404
03:02:53,760 --> 03:02:56,880
and also keeps the teeth together. So that's across the front.

2405
03:02:58,240 --> 03:03:01,760
The power chain is not available in all the like fun colors that you can put on

2406
03:03:01,760 --> 03:03:05,200
if you get the individual ones. As far as I know, anyway, I actually didn't ask.

2407
03:03:05,200 --> 03:03:08,400
I've just been putting on the clear or the white ones up until now.

2408
03:03:08,400 --> 03:03:16,640
But what's actually causing the discoloration problem. Oh yeah. So the white ones will discolor, especially with very colorful food.

2409
03:03:16,640 --> 03:03:19,760
So the issue is that I had nothing but curry for three days.

2410
03:03:19,760 --> 03:03:24,160
So. Which is wild. Well, we asked, we ordered too much and my kids didn't want it.

2411
03:03:24,160 --> 03:03:27,840
So what I'm going to do, throw it away, waste it. Would you have me waste chicken?

2412
03:03:27,920 --> 03:03:32,000
No. Oh, no. That's what I'm talking about. Especially not now.

2413
03:03:32,000 --> 03:03:36,400
And I ate all the chicken. Good. So the chicken was consumed.

2414
03:03:36,400 --> 03:03:40,240
Exactly. 100% success eating the chicken.

2415
03:03:43,760 --> 03:03:50,960
In addition to that, I have this, I have this like semi permanent wax,

2416
03:03:50,960 --> 03:03:56,720
like glue kind of thing that they paint on top of these brackets.

2417
03:03:56,720 --> 03:04:01,920
And then they cure with a UV light. It seems to be pretty susceptible to curry stain.

2418
03:04:02,640 --> 03:04:08,320
And that's why this one fell off. Oh wait. So it's not the power thing.

2419
03:04:08,320 --> 03:04:12,240
So that will turn color as well, but I've only had that for a week.

2420
03:04:12,240 --> 03:04:23,360
So it's actually the glue that's on top. And if I don't wear it, these ceramic brackets, they sit super proud off the tooth.

2421
03:04:23,360 --> 03:04:29,680
And I don't think, yeah, I don't, I don't think you'll be able to tell, but you can go for it.

2422
03:04:33,040 --> 03:04:38,400
Oh, that's rough. Oh, that's really rough. They are ludicrously sharp.

2423
03:04:38,400 --> 03:04:42,000
That's rough. Like I've had braces before.

2424
03:04:42,000 --> 03:04:45,040
Yeah. The metal ones. Those are, you've mentioned that they're proud off the tooth.

2425
03:04:45,040 --> 03:04:52,240
Those are crazy. And so they sit prouder off the tooth and they are ridiculously sharp.

2426
03:04:52,240 --> 03:04:55,680
And they're sharp. They have sharp corners and they're ceramic.

2427
03:04:55,680 --> 03:04:59,360
They're not smooth. They have a kind of a texture.

2428
03:04:59,360 --> 03:05:03,200
It feels like they should have been able to solve the sharpness. You would think so.

2429
03:05:03,200 --> 03:05:10,960
That's nuts. I'm surprised this isn't like a more widely known issue because I can't imagine how that wouldn't irritate the inside of me.

2430
03:05:10,960 --> 03:05:20,720
So as far as I can tell, the company that makes these helps there be positive media about it.

2431
03:05:21,280 --> 03:05:24,560
But you can find people complaining about how sharp they are.

2432
03:05:25,120 --> 03:05:30,960
But I didn't Google it. I just was like, oh yeah, I don't know, 3D printed ceramic and it's faster.

2433
03:05:30,960 --> 03:05:35,760
Yeah, let's do that one. I strongly regret the choice that I made.

2434
03:05:35,760 --> 03:05:40,880
The inside of my mouth is always shredded and these glue things they'll stay on.

2435
03:05:40,880 --> 03:05:45,040
I can't imagine how it wouldn't be. Anywhere from a week to like a month.

2436
03:05:46,400 --> 03:05:49,600
And then I, but like my ortho has been pretty good about it. I can go in.

2437
03:05:49,600 --> 03:05:54,400
I can just drop in. I don't have to make an appointment. I can go in anytime and get them to reapply them.

2438
03:05:55,360 --> 03:05:58,960
But literally, if it meant that my teeth could not look yellow,

2439
03:06:00,720 --> 03:06:04,560
I don't even care because I'm going to have that glue on my teeth.

2440
03:06:04,560 --> 03:06:08,080
And I'm going to keep eating butter chicken. So go fuck yourself.

2441
03:06:08,080 --> 03:06:11,520
Is there some, can you discolor it with something else?

2442
03:06:12,960 --> 03:06:16,320
Because yellow is particularly rough. Would I look better purple?

2443
03:06:16,320 --> 03:06:19,920
Like what are you even getting at here? I think I should eat beets.

2444
03:06:19,920 --> 03:06:24,880
I think so. Because like in your peripheral view, it's just like a glow of yellow.

2445
03:06:26,880 --> 03:06:32,240
Yeah, I saw some comments. So, so there were, there were some new, some new folks watching the, uh,

2446
03:06:32,240 --> 03:06:37,520
the steam frame and steam machine videos. Those were far and away out performers for our channel.

2447
03:06:37,520 --> 03:06:41,760
So there's been some kind of new viewers coming in or people who haven't been around for a while.

2448
03:06:41,760 --> 03:06:46,720
And so there was more than, you know, with the core audience that watches all the time,

2449
03:06:46,720 --> 03:06:50,960
comments on the braces or some that I apparently don't brush my teeth.

2450
03:06:50,960 --> 03:06:54,480
It's like, no, no, I brushed my teeth. I, in fact, I have to work very hard to brush my teeth

2451
03:06:54,480 --> 03:06:59,120
because of my stupid orthodontics that are all over them. But it's okay.

2452
03:06:59,120 --> 03:07:00,400
It'll only be another year.

2453
03:07:05,680 --> 03:07:08,720
You want your teeth to be yellow for a year, dude? No.

2454
03:07:08,720 --> 03:07:13,440
Yeah. I don't want it. I wonder like someone's, someone's suggested Kool-Aid.

2455
03:07:14,560 --> 03:07:17,440
Kool-Aid. To color them a different color?

2456
03:07:18,320 --> 03:07:20,480
Why would I do that? I'm not going to do that.

2457
03:07:21,600 --> 03:07:24,880
I'm not going to do that. The green, would that be better?

2458
03:07:24,880 --> 03:07:27,840
Red? What would you prefer? Pink. You pick a pink.

2459
03:07:28,880 --> 03:07:32,400
Pink teeth would look better. No, that would follow your style. That would look diseased.

2460
03:07:33,680 --> 03:07:38,960
Yeah. There's no proper color for teeth except white or a little bit yellow.

2461
03:07:38,960 --> 03:07:42,720
Those are the only natural colors for teeth. I'm sorry. That's not a little bit yellow, dude.

2462
03:07:43,680 --> 03:07:47,040
The curry was worth it. It was delicious.

2463
03:07:47,600 --> 03:07:51,440
It's like the yellow in the mountain on your Starry Night shirt.

2464
03:07:52,000 --> 03:07:55,680
It's like that yellow. It's, it's not slightly yellow.

2465
03:07:58,240 --> 03:08:02,560
Actually, I have a bar of yellow. Hold on. It's like, it's like in here.

2466
03:08:05,360 --> 03:08:07,680
You start G76. Okay.

2467
03:08:09,040 --> 03:08:12,640
Outstanding. They use different recipes at some of the locations,

2468
03:08:12,640 --> 03:08:15,840
so I can't really speak to any of the ones other than-

2469
03:08:15,840 --> 03:08:19,200
I love that he just takes a photo standing in front of it, and it's mostly of him.

2470
03:08:19,200 --> 03:08:23,040
Other than Suri's store. Yep. That's incredible.

2471
03:08:23,040 --> 03:08:27,600
This guy, I- That's so good. I asked the staff if he's like this in person,

2472
03:08:27,600 --> 03:08:31,600
and they were like, yep. He's just wearing a Gucci jacket in one of them.

2473
03:08:31,600 --> 03:08:36,160
He is apparently- Wait, he's not in these. He is apparently exactly like this.

2474
03:08:36,160 --> 03:08:38,640
That sucks. He's exactly like you would imagine.

2475
03:08:39,280 --> 03:08:43,920
And this is the kind of like decor they have. I don't know if they have any pictures of the insides of the restaurants,

2476
03:08:43,920 --> 03:08:46,400
but like they always have Mr. Bean playing in this one on the,

2477
03:08:47,120 --> 03:08:50,160
on the TV. That's awesome. Like the animated Mr. Bean. It's, I don't know.

2478
03:08:50,160 --> 03:08:54,160
It's super weird, but it's good, good curry. There's one showing up in Langley City.

2479
03:08:54,160 --> 03:08:57,440
Nice. I'm excited about that. Solid. Solid.

2480
03:08:57,440 --> 03:09:01,680
You start G76. Quality. My favorite Indian food place is gone.

2481
03:09:02,240 --> 03:09:05,840
Oh, really? Which one? Masala Indian Bistro. Oh, bummer.

2482
03:09:05,840 --> 03:09:10,320
Yeah. Yeah. My, my old favorite was actually taken over by Ustad G,

2483
03:09:10,320 --> 03:09:14,560
and I got lucky because it's even better. It used to be called taste of Punjab, that one.

2484
03:09:14,560 --> 03:09:19,200
And then Ustad G came in and put some artificial turf up on the walls.

2485
03:09:19,200 --> 03:09:22,400
Okay. So literally every single time the full plane team visits,

2486
03:09:22,400 --> 03:09:26,000
we go to Masala. Yeah. AJ is pointing out our tradition.

2487
03:09:26,000 --> 03:09:29,440
We go to Masala every time because it's like a few of their favorite restaurants,

2488
03:09:29,440 --> 03:09:32,320
but like especially Jonathan, but like a few of people's favorite restaurants.

2489
03:09:32,880 --> 03:09:38,640
And I don't think any of them knew it was permanently closed yet. But yeah. Give me out Ustad G76.

2490
03:09:38,640 --> 03:09:42,880
Maybe. Yeah, we'll have to, we'll have to do something because Masala,

2491
03:09:42,880 --> 03:09:46,080
I call it Masala, but there's a bunch of, he is a G.

2492
03:09:46,080 --> 03:09:49,600
It does kind of fit. It does really fit.

2493
03:09:49,600 --> 03:09:51,280
Like how dye does that facial hair?

2494
03:09:53,440 --> 03:09:53,840
Yeah.

2495
03:09:56,960 --> 03:10:00,080
But yeah, it's gone. AJ, if you, if you, if you Google it, it's gone.

2496
03:10:00,080 --> 03:10:04,960
And it was really highly rated and I honestly don't know why it's gone.

2497
03:10:06,160 --> 03:10:10,240
So I hope it's for some good reason. Yeah, probably not.

2498
03:10:10,240 --> 03:10:13,520
Probably not. They had a lot of people there. It was really good.

2499
03:10:14,640 --> 03:10:21,360
Very good. Speaking of good reasons, Jack Dorsey felt he had a good reason to fund Devine,

2500
03:10:22,080 --> 03:10:27,840
a Vine reboot that includes Vine's video archive and band's AI content.

2501
03:10:27,840 --> 03:10:34,560
However, they're going to enforce that. Jack Dorsey is backing Devine, a reboot of Vine through his nonprofit

2502
03:10:34,560 --> 03:10:39,120
and other stuff, which is interesting because Twitter owned the old Vine before shutting

2503
03:10:39,120 --> 03:10:47,520
it down in January of 2017. The app was created by current and other stuff and former Twitter employee,

2504
03:10:47,520 --> 03:10:54,000
Evan Henshaw Plath, aka Rabble, using data previously stored by archive team,

2505
03:10:54,000 --> 03:11:02,960
which is also not the same as the archive.org team. Rabble was able to restore 150 to 200,000 original Vines from 60,000 creators who can

2506
03:11:02,960 --> 03:11:06,400
contact him if they want to take control of their reconstructed accounts.

2507
03:11:07,360 --> 03:11:12,480
Devine breaks from its short-form video brethren by banning AI-generated content.

2508
03:11:12,480 --> 03:11:15,760
It'll use tech from the human rights nonprofit, The Guardian Project,

2509
03:11:15,760 --> 03:11:18,960
to confirm that a clip was truly captured on a smartphone.

2510
03:11:19,920 --> 03:11:23,760
I mean, okay, I wish them, does that work really good?

2511
03:11:23,760 --> 03:11:29,120
Anyone? No idea. Plus, because it's built on Noster, a decentralized protocol favored by Dorsey,

2512
03:11:29,120 --> 03:11:34,960
and is open source. Okay, I'm actually starting to think it might be cool. Developers can set up and create their own apps and run their own hosts,

2513
03:11:34,960 --> 03:11:39,520
relays, and media servers. You know what? You know what? How did that suddenly get really cooler at the end?

2514
03:11:39,520 --> 03:11:43,840
That started pretty sh**t, and now I'm open to it.

2515
03:11:44,400 --> 03:11:50,720
That was really fast. I think that's about the fastest I've had my mind changed on something in recent times.

2516
03:11:52,480 --> 03:11:54,640
Okay, all right, Dorsey, I'll bite.

2517
03:11:55,760 --> 03:12:00,640
Not everything you've done has been super-duper amazing across the board.

2518
03:12:01,200 --> 03:12:06,560
If we want another weird update that's like sort of related to this,

2519
03:12:07,520 --> 03:12:10,800
this page got an update. Dig?

2520
03:12:10,800 --> 03:12:14,880
Dig got an update. We talked about this a while ago, that they were launching Dig again,

2521
03:12:14,880 --> 03:12:18,560
but now there's like a tagline for it. Humanity at the Core Technology at the Edges.

2522
03:12:18,560 --> 03:12:22,880
We're building a human-first community platform that places authentic community and connection

2523
03:12:22,880 --> 03:12:28,640
at the forefront from day one. I got an invite. I've been too busy to actually sign up for it, but I got an invite for this,

2524
03:12:28,640 --> 03:12:30,800
so maybe I'll be able to check it out and we can talk about it later.

2525
03:12:32,960 --> 03:12:34,800
But it's interesting.

2526
03:12:36,640 --> 03:12:39,760
Man, Reddit has so much inertia. Oh, yeah.

2527
03:12:41,120 --> 03:12:44,640
Wouldn't even describe it as momentum. It's more like inertia.

2528
03:12:44,640 --> 03:12:53,760
It just has this like mass that is just, it's impossible to replicate for a new platform.

2529
03:12:53,760 --> 03:13:00,320
Yeah. Our discussion question for the Vine thing, D-Vine, is how a short form video evolved

2530
03:13:00,320 --> 03:13:03,920
since Vine's departure? I mean, honestly, is it? It's pretty similar.

2531
03:13:03,920 --> 03:13:09,440
Yeah, I think it's pretty similar. It's less meme-y and funny, and it's a little bit more.

2532
03:13:10,480 --> 03:13:17,280
Definitely more addictive. Yeah. Like the masters of it have had a lot more time to master it.

2533
03:13:17,280 --> 03:13:21,520
Dude, it's still fascinating that Vine, sorry, ever shut down.

2534
03:13:22,560 --> 03:13:26,080
Fascinating. Gotta be one of the craziest fumbles ever.

2535
03:13:26,080 --> 03:13:28,880
Periscope, sure. What was its value add?

2536
03:13:30,400 --> 03:13:34,000
Vine, though, was wild. I mean, I didn't care about Vine.

2537
03:13:34,800 --> 03:13:42,320
But so many people did. Some of the most popular videos on YouTube when Vine was around was Vine compilation.

2538
03:13:42,320 --> 03:13:46,400
Yeah, like TikTok now. It's a part of my personality. Yeah, like, yeah.

2539
03:13:47,040 --> 03:13:52,160
Yeah, I don't know. Like, I have to confess, I didn't really get it. I didn't really care, didn't care about short form video.

2540
03:13:53,920 --> 03:14:00,160
But it's clear that a lot of people did. I mean, I guess the idea was just to migrate those users to Twitter.

2541
03:14:00,160 --> 03:14:04,160
But then it was never quite the same.

2542
03:14:05,360 --> 03:14:09,760
It's just it really captured, like when we're talking Silicon Valley and capturing eyeballs,

2543
03:14:09,760 --> 03:14:11,680
it like really captured eyeballs.

2544
03:14:12,800 --> 03:14:18,000
I don't know if capping people at six seconds is still going to be interesting.

2545
03:14:18,720 --> 03:14:22,160
I don't know if that's going to work. That was sort of some of its downfall.

2546
03:14:22,160 --> 03:14:27,920
It did improve some of the quality because you actually had to construct a narrative in six seconds.

2547
03:14:29,120 --> 03:14:34,720
A lot of people I've heard recently complain about TikTok because you'll, it'll be like a one minute video and they just kind of never get to the point.

2548
03:14:35,520 --> 03:14:39,440
You have to construct something in six seconds. But yeah, how do you monetize it?

2549
03:14:39,440 --> 03:14:43,440
CatOS points out they did get rid of that in the near the end.

2550
03:14:43,440 --> 03:14:51,360
And then what's the point? It's just TikTok. But yeah, but TikTok wasn't around too slow, which is my point, which is like Vine was

2551
03:14:52,160 --> 03:14:57,440
freaking huge. I mean, if you look at the people that just because Vine died,

2552
03:14:57,440 --> 03:15:00,720
moved over to YouTube and then became massive YouTubers.

2553
03:15:00,720 --> 03:15:05,120
Absolutely. They had just smash hit as much as I might not like all of them.

2554
03:15:05,120 --> 03:15:10,800
They had smash hit creators on Vine. It was like a cultural phenomenon and they just shut it down.

2555
03:15:11,760 --> 03:15:16,240
Wild. I mean, no one ever said Twitter was a well run company.

2556
03:15:19,600 --> 03:15:27,280
At any point. At any point. I mean, that's been, your stance has been pretty, pretty clear on Twitter being a dumpster fire

2557
03:15:27,280 --> 03:15:36,400
then and now. So is this really that surprising? The only thing about Twitter is that practically everyone has an account and you can DM people.

2558
03:15:37,040 --> 03:15:40,800
I'm thinking about just deleting mine though. I think I just might be done.

2559
03:15:40,800 --> 03:15:44,960
I still use the DM portion often enough that I don't want to get rid of it.

2560
03:15:46,080 --> 03:15:50,240
It is still the easiest way for me to reach out to someone that I don't know and get a response.

2561
03:15:51,200 --> 03:15:54,320
Unless that changes, I don't see myself deleting my account.

2562
03:15:54,320 --> 03:15:58,240
I use Discord more than Twitter. Yeah, but how do you find the person?

2563
03:15:59,040 --> 03:16:02,560
If I don't know the person yet. Yeah. Well, I guess I still, okay.

2564
03:16:02,560 --> 03:16:05,280
So I have the luxury of still having the corporate Twitter if I really need to.

2565
03:16:06,240 --> 03:16:10,160
So I could make a connection with that, which is, you know, it's verified, whatever that means

2566
03:16:10,160 --> 03:16:13,520
these days and it's got a big follower account. So it should, you know.

2567
03:16:14,080 --> 03:16:21,600
Yeah. And to be clear, I like really don't use it that often. But if I'm like, hmm, this one person that I know of would be like really useful to talk to

2568
03:16:21,600 --> 03:16:26,720
about this one topic, but I've never actually had a contact with them.

2569
03:16:28,240 --> 03:16:30,960
Yeah, that's totally valid. Jump on Twitter, find them.

2570
03:16:31,600 --> 03:16:36,320
It's the same reason I have Facebook, except that's for getting in touch with people in your life.

2571
03:16:36,320 --> 03:16:41,040
Yeah. That. Exactly. I see no value to Facebook anymore, except.

2572
03:16:41,040 --> 03:16:49,280
Marketplace. Well, yeah. Marketplace is very enshrined now, but for only you, all the rest of us get boring marketplace

2573
03:16:49,280 --> 03:16:54,400
and you get all the fun ones. No, I ruined mine. No, I actually bought some stuff and now it's ruined.

2574
03:16:54,400 --> 03:16:58,480
There was someone on Reddit talking about how they were Linus training there.

2575
03:16:58,480 --> 03:17:02,480
I saw that. Dude, really funny. Crazy that it worked. Immediate results.

2576
03:17:02,480 --> 03:17:04,640
So sick. So sick.

2577
03:17:07,600 --> 03:17:11,360
Training my market place. Just shoot an email next time that you might meet Torvalds.

2578
03:17:12,080 --> 03:17:15,840
Here, here it is. One week update on my marketplace training.

2579
03:17:16,560 --> 03:17:21,440
Taco Bell, nine feet tall. So good. Potential uranium glass leg.

2580
03:17:21,440 --> 03:17:26,480
Question mark. Spirit S1 LSA, shiny plane.

2581
03:17:27,840 --> 03:17:31,360
BMW 5 ton 6x6. Oh, BMW Y, excuse me.

2582
03:17:32,320 --> 03:17:35,840
Full tank of gas for a TI-84 CE plus calculator.

2583
03:17:38,080 --> 03:17:40,400
Vertical machining centers. Sure.

2584
03:17:41,440 --> 03:17:46,240
Full size traffic light retired. Plastic jersey barriers.

2585
03:17:47,120 --> 03:17:50,160
Dude, there's so much crazy stuff on Facebook marketplace.

2586
03:17:50,160 --> 03:17:52,640
It's so cool. You just have to be brave enough to click it.

2587
03:17:54,400 --> 03:17:58,960
I love, my favorite one was the potential uranium glass question mark.

2588
03:17:58,960 --> 03:18:02,240
Yeah. I loved that one. Who knows what it is? Not me. So good.

2589
03:18:02,240 --> 03:18:05,520
Pay me. Pay me, bitch. Like, what even is this?

2590
03:18:05,920 --> 03:18:11,440
AI artist tops country music charts.

2591
03:18:11,440 --> 03:18:17,920
Kind of. Kind of. I hate this title. AI generated music has routinely been charting over the past month or so,

2592
03:18:17,920 --> 03:18:21,680
but the track, Walk My Walk by Breakin' Rust,

2593
03:18:21,680 --> 03:18:25,520
has landed at the top of Billboard's country digital song sales chart

2594
03:18:25,520 --> 03:18:29,680
with over three million streams on Spotify.

2595
03:18:29,680 --> 03:18:32,480
Which is a ton, but not why it's up there.

2596
03:18:33,200 --> 03:18:38,400
It should be noted, however, that the digital song sales chart is not a mainstream chart

2597
03:18:38,400 --> 03:18:41,840
and only required 3,000 sales in order to be topped.

2598
03:18:41,840 --> 03:18:45,760
Sales are either 150 streams or a purchase from iTunes.

2599
03:18:45,760 --> 03:18:49,680
This means you can easily top the chart with an iTunes gift card and some bots.

2600
03:18:49,680 --> 03:18:54,080
And this is what I was going to add to this topic that I don't see in the comments,

2601
03:18:54,080 --> 03:18:59,280
but a lot of the comments on it are clearly bought.

2602
03:18:59,280 --> 03:19:02,400
Botted. Definitely. Clearly. And if you're going to bot comments,

2603
03:19:02,400 --> 03:19:05,520
why not bot streams?

2604
03:19:05,520 --> 03:19:10,240
Yeah. As an example, Disturbs Cover of the Sound of Silence,

2605
03:19:10,240 --> 03:19:14,560
which is an awful cover, says Adam Sondergaard. I'm not taking a position on this,

2606
03:19:14,560 --> 03:19:18,720
has been at the top of the Alternative Digital Song Sales Chart for 400 weeks.

2607
03:19:18,720 --> 03:19:22,800
That's a few. That's wild. That is a few. Casual eight years.

2608
03:19:22,800 --> 03:19:28,640
Another AI artist, Zania Monet, has been making headlines after signing a $3 million record deal.

2609
03:19:28,640 --> 03:19:33,520
And her gospel track, Let's Go, Let's Go, garnering millions of views across platforms.

2610
03:19:33,520 --> 03:19:34,080
That's not it.

2611
03:19:37,680 --> 03:19:40,720
That's not the title of the song. What is it?

2612
03:19:40,720 --> 03:19:42,800
Oh, Let Go Let God. Sorry.

2613
03:19:44,400 --> 03:19:47,680
Yeah, that makes more sense. That doesn't actually make a lot more sense.

2614
03:19:47,680 --> 03:19:50,560
Or wait, I guess it kind of does. Let go.

2615
03:19:52,000 --> 03:19:53,040
So it's Jesus take the wheel.

2616
03:19:55,200 --> 03:19:58,880
Which is why, as far as my understanding is, not the lessons you're supposed to take.

2617
03:19:58,880 --> 03:20:01,200
But I mean, it's been a while.

2618
03:20:02,320 --> 03:20:06,080
So I could be wrong. You could be. I wouldn't presume to.

2619
03:20:08,720 --> 03:20:13,840
To me, it's fascinating having a AI artist do religious songs.

2620
03:20:14,640 --> 03:20:18,640
There's got it. There's something in there somewhere. Something in there somewhere.

2621
03:20:18,640 --> 03:20:22,400
Yep. Yep. Discussion questions.

2622
03:20:23,680 --> 03:20:26,240
Would you go to the concert of a virtual artist?

2623
03:20:27,120 --> 03:20:30,240
I mean. No. No.

2624
03:20:30,240 --> 03:20:34,080
Okay, cool. Next question. How is this different from bands like Gorillas?

2625
03:20:34,080 --> 03:20:37,360
What about Hatsune Miku, which performs songs written by a community?

2626
03:20:37,360 --> 03:20:42,080
Well, it's different because humans crafted that.

2627
03:20:42,080 --> 03:20:46,960
Whereas this didn't. Next question. Can there be true artistic intent behind AI music?

2628
03:20:48,640 --> 03:20:53,280
Artistic intent. Okay, well, hold on a second. I could see a poet making an argument

2629
03:20:53,280 --> 03:20:59,680
that if they human crafted lyrics and then an AI like generated song, something to them,

2630
03:20:59,680 --> 03:21:03,120
there was at least some, there was less than, there was more than zero.

2631
03:21:03,760 --> 03:21:07,040
Dirt Dragon raises a very interesting point.

2632
03:21:07,040 --> 03:21:10,160
All right, hit me. We should make, we should need,

2633
03:21:10,160 --> 03:21:14,320
we probably won't even need to make it happen. It'll just happen. But if it doesn't just happen,

2634
03:21:14,320 --> 03:21:17,600
we should make the Riley. I'm taking a bathroom break.

2635
03:21:17,600 --> 03:21:20,240
Top the charts. What, by botting it? Yeah.

2636
03:21:21,440 --> 03:21:25,040
You want to improve AI adoption? Yeah. Might as well use it for evil.

2637
03:21:25,040 --> 03:21:28,720
I mean, good. Yeah. Sometimes they might be the same.

2638
03:21:29,440 --> 03:21:34,080
Yeah. He just left. Should we do something?

2639
03:21:37,600 --> 03:21:41,280
There's some topics in here that are not fully planned out. So I won't do those.

2640
03:21:42,320 --> 03:21:47,280
What do we do? It's not normal to have him just leave randomly.

2641
03:21:48,320 --> 03:21:49,920
I mean, does he not want to talk about this?

2642
03:21:52,080 --> 03:21:54,560
Interesting. I can talk about this other topic.

2643
03:21:55,200 --> 03:22:01,120
Sony announced a cheaper Japanese language only PS5 exclusive to Japan.

2644
03:22:01,120 --> 03:22:04,480
And they also revealed a PlayStation monitor.

2645
03:22:04,480 --> 03:22:08,000
The PlayStation monitor is wild. We'll talk about that in a second.

2646
03:22:08,000 --> 03:22:11,200
Sony announced a cheaper Japanese blah blah blah, all that kind of stuff.

2647
03:22:11,200 --> 03:22:17,280
It's the first time they've region locked a console since the PS2 back in the year 2000.

2648
03:22:18,480 --> 03:22:22,640
Like Nintendo's Japan only Switch 2 model, this special PS5 is Sony's attempt

2649
03:22:22,640 --> 03:22:25,760
at making the console more affordable domestically.

2650
03:22:26,640 --> 03:22:32,400
Sony also announced a PlayStation branded gaming monitor. The 2560 by 1440 monitor has an IPS panel

2651
03:22:32,400 --> 03:22:37,760
and a 240 Hertz refresh rate. But the 240 Hertz refresh is only available

2652
03:22:37,760 --> 03:22:41,040
when hooked up to a PC. Which is...

2653
03:22:41,840 --> 03:22:44,880
What? Very interesting. What does that mean?

2654
03:22:44,880 --> 03:22:48,560
It just runs at 120 Hertz when connected to PlayStation consoles.

2655
03:22:50,400 --> 03:22:53,200
Huh. And it has a DualSense charging hook.

2656
03:22:53,840 --> 03:22:56,880
They are publishing their games on Steam and PC now.

2657
03:22:57,680 --> 03:23:01,680
This is maybe not that weird. The whole industry is getting very strange.

2658
03:23:01,680 --> 03:23:05,120
What is happening? Xbox is being the weirdest out of all of it.

2659
03:23:05,120 --> 03:23:08,720
We're going to hit Xbox on the GameCube. It's like...

2660
03:23:10,000 --> 03:23:12,720
It's a weird one. I don't know what's happening.

2661
03:23:13,280 --> 03:23:17,920
Sony hasn't priced the monitor. They don't quote response times or brightness.

2662
03:23:17,920 --> 03:23:21,840
And even Sony's quoted HDR capability is vague at best.

2663
03:23:21,840 --> 03:23:29,680
With PC gamers saying that the monitor doesn't seem like a hugely compelling proposition for PC gaming.

2664
03:23:32,880 --> 03:23:36,800
Interesting. But we don't even know the price. That's interesting.

2665
03:23:37,760 --> 03:23:41,280
Discussion question. Do you have any memorable experiences with region locked products?

2666
03:23:41,280 --> 03:23:44,400
If yes, tell us your tales. If you don't have any anecdotes.

2667
03:23:44,400 --> 03:23:46,320
What are your opinions on region locking in general?

2668
03:23:48,880 --> 03:23:54,800
I don't like region locking. I am conflicted on the it's cheaper domestically thing.

2669
03:23:54,800 --> 03:23:58,320
I think it's kind of based. Even though I'm not going to benefit from it.

2670
03:23:59,360 --> 03:24:05,680
And then how do you do that? While actually making it so that it's cheaper for everyone

2671
03:24:05,680 --> 03:24:08,400
because they just order the the ones in Japan.

2672
03:24:09,840 --> 03:24:14,160
So I don't know. But in general, I think region locking is kind of bad

2673
03:24:14,160 --> 03:24:16,080
because it promotes e-waste problems.

2674
03:24:17,760 --> 03:24:20,400
What do you think? Yeah, I think so.

2675
03:24:20,800 --> 03:24:25,040
I mean, these days it's just kind of strange to region lock anything.

2676
03:24:25,040 --> 03:24:28,480
It seems extremely unnecessary. The whole world is super global now.

2677
03:24:28,480 --> 03:24:30,960
Yeah, power and NTSC is no longer a thing.

2678
03:24:31,600 --> 03:24:38,880
No, no. I mean, my thought would be taxes, export, that sort of stuff.

2679
03:24:41,120 --> 03:24:45,040
You know, I know Japan is a little strange in some regards.

2680
03:24:45,440 --> 03:24:50,000
I mean, there's talk of flying to Japan to get things cheaper

2681
03:24:50,000 --> 03:24:54,400
than you could just importing them, which is which is very odd.

2682
03:24:54,400 --> 03:24:57,600
I wonder if that has to do with it. Sorry, I thought you were done talking about something. Go for it.

2683
03:24:57,600 --> 03:25:00,720
Binky draws. I can't see you. I was about to say it's really hard.

2684
03:25:01,440 --> 03:25:05,680
Binky draws says, is it actually region locked or is it only sold in one region?

2685
03:25:05,680 --> 03:25:09,200
And I don't technically know. But it says in here region locked,

2686
03:25:09,200 --> 03:25:11,920
which would make me think it's not just only sold there.

2687
03:25:16,000 --> 03:25:19,920
Another discussion, discussion question. What comes to mind is your favorite unexpected console

2688
03:25:19,920 --> 03:25:23,360
branded product or peripherals, the, you know, PlayStation,

2689
03:25:23,360 --> 03:25:26,640
3D TV, Gamecube or Dreamcast, keyboard, et cetera.

2690
03:25:27,760 --> 03:25:31,280
And I don't think I have one.

2691
03:25:34,880 --> 03:25:38,240
That's very boring. But I think it's true.

2692
03:25:38,240 --> 03:25:41,440
Very few come to mind. Because it specifically says unexpected.

2693
03:25:41,440 --> 03:25:45,760
So I would traditionally say just like Xbox controllers because I like them so much more than PlayStation.

2694
03:25:45,760 --> 03:25:47,920
What about that KFC thing? Was that real?

2695
03:25:49,440 --> 03:25:53,840
That's also. Or is that no, that's the opposite.

2696
03:25:53,840 --> 03:25:57,120
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Darn, I'm trying to think of anything.

2697
03:25:57,120 --> 03:26:00,880
Full-plane chat, do you have anything? I don't think I have an example. I don't have an example at all.

2698
03:26:01,440 --> 03:26:05,040
Oops. Oh, well. But yeah, that's kind of funky and weird.

2699
03:26:05,040 --> 03:26:08,560
What is your thought on them making it cheaper in Japan?

2700
03:26:09,760 --> 03:26:13,280
What do you think about that? Well, that's kind of cool. That makes me think that is definitely

2701
03:26:13,280 --> 03:26:16,960
some sort of like, you know, export thing.

2702
03:26:16,960 --> 03:26:20,320
Yeah, I feel like if there was a Canadian company and they made it cheaper for Canadians,

2703
03:26:20,320 --> 03:26:23,440
I would think that was cool. I'm fine with that.

2704
03:26:23,440 --> 03:26:30,160
I think if they're basically sacrificing their like margins

2705
03:26:31,680 --> 03:26:35,200
locally and putting it up elsewhere, that's fine.

2706
03:26:35,200 --> 03:26:37,280
Sacrifice, is that when you pretend to kill someone?

2707
03:26:38,240 --> 03:26:42,720
To appease the gods? Yeah, it sounds like it. Or do you actually kill someone to appease a fake god?

2708
03:26:43,760 --> 03:26:44,480
Sacrifice.

2709
03:26:47,280 --> 03:26:50,480
I think it could be either. Maybe it's one of those words with two definitions. Did I interrupt?

2710
03:26:51,120 --> 03:26:55,520
Only slightly. PlayStation 5 exclusive version in Japan,

2711
03:26:55,520 --> 03:26:59,040
it's region locked, but it's cheaper. Also, they released a monitor.

2712
03:26:59,760 --> 03:27:02,800
Region locks are anti-consumer and should always be objected to.

2713
03:27:03,360 --> 03:27:06,400
Yeah, it's cheaper for them. Just like naming it the same thing

2714
03:27:06,400 --> 03:27:09,760
when it's actually a different product, we should always object to that.

2715
03:27:09,760 --> 03:27:14,560
It's cheaper for them. So I think this is their way of making it cheaper for Japanese people.

2716
03:27:14,560 --> 03:27:15,520
Why is it cheaper for them?

2717
03:27:18,000 --> 03:27:21,680
This is fairly normal in Japan. If it's only sold in Japan and it's cheaper?

2718
03:27:22,320 --> 03:27:26,080
No, I mean, what do you mean it's cheaper for them? Like for Sony?

2719
03:27:26,080 --> 03:27:30,080
This region, no, for Japanese people. People in Japan.

2720
03:27:30,080 --> 03:27:34,880
Okay. But you can only use it in Japan or with Japanese games or other stuff.

2721
03:27:34,880 --> 03:27:39,680
If we're interpreting the region lock thing correctly, which I think we are. No, it's still anti-consumer.

2722
03:27:39,680 --> 03:27:44,880
Yeah. They should just sell it for like more cheaper in Japan if they really want to.

2723
03:27:44,880 --> 03:27:47,360
But then that's going to get abused immediately, obviously.

2724
03:27:48,000 --> 03:27:53,200
But then like if they can afford to sell it for that much, then they should just do that.

2725
03:27:53,200 --> 03:27:57,440
That's obviously not how that works. You know that. I mean, even shipping something out of Japan,

2726
03:27:57,440 --> 03:28:01,760
like it would have to be markedly cheaper for it to not make more sense to just.

2727
03:28:01,760 --> 03:28:05,840
That's fair. Buy it somewhere else when it's been shipped in bulk. I don't know how much the discount is.

2728
03:28:05,840 --> 03:28:09,360
5,500, 55,000 yen.

2729
03:28:09,520 --> 03:28:10,320
Let's convert that.

2730
03:28:13,920 --> 03:28:22,240
USD. Wow, that's really cheap. 355 compared to the normal one was, is this a pro or is it normal?

2731
03:28:22,240 --> 03:28:25,840
I think it's normal. Digital edition. So it's the non-disk normal one.

2732
03:28:26,560 --> 03:28:29,920
Yeah, it's still 350 bucks. Okay. Yeah. I think that's normally 500.

2733
03:28:29,920 --> 03:28:32,960
People would buy them in bulk and ship them overseas.

2734
03:28:33,680 --> 03:28:39,440
All right, I'm thinking.

2735
03:28:41,200 --> 03:28:44,000
How else could you do this? I don't think you can.

2736
03:28:46,080 --> 03:28:49,920
I don't like that there's region locking. I agree. I think it's anti-consumer as well.

2737
03:28:49,920 --> 03:28:55,360
I don't like it. I think it's a bad contributor to things like e-waste and just not good things in general.

2738
03:28:55,360 --> 03:28:59,680
Yeah. But I also think it's kind of cool that they're offering a domestic discount.

2739
03:28:59,680 --> 03:29:06,400
I'd be okay with it. If they committed to unlock it, like when it's a lot of years down the line.

2740
03:29:06,400 --> 03:29:09,360
Yeah. That's cool. I like that. I think that would be a good compromise.

2741
03:29:13,360 --> 03:29:16,000
If the PS6 launches, you unlock all them.

2742
03:29:20,560 --> 03:29:23,760
Thinking. Or like a year into the PS6 being around.

2743
03:29:23,760 --> 03:29:30,800
Okay. How would you feel about a device that rather than being region locked was cheaper up front

2744
03:29:31,680 --> 03:29:33,360
but the games were more expensive?

2745
03:29:35,120 --> 03:29:37,600
What about a global unlock code?

2746
03:29:38,320 --> 03:29:41,520
If you have it in Japan, it's region locked. I'm just chit-chatting now.

2747
03:29:42,240 --> 03:29:48,000
Oh, so this has nothing to do with- What if they had a $300 PlayStation 5 but every game cost like $20 more?

2748
03:29:49,200 --> 03:29:52,720
Knowing that most people will buy like between five and a dozen games or whatever.

2749
03:29:52,720 --> 03:29:58,320
So they make their money in the longer term. But it's basically, it's choose your own adventure on whether you want one that's priced

2750
03:29:58,320 --> 03:30:02,160
profitably in the first place with cheaper games or whether you want one that's priced

2751
03:30:02,160 --> 03:30:04,640
cheaper but you know you're going to pay more for the games.

2752
03:30:07,520 --> 03:30:14,320
If you still had the option to buy the full price one, would you object to them having like a cheaper subsidized game one?

2753
03:30:14,320 --> 03:30:19,040
I don't think so if you still had the option. There's definitely people that will buy a console for two games.

2754
03:30:20,160 --> 03:30:23,520
Yeah. Even one game in certain cases. So-

2755
03:30:23,520 --> 03:30:29,680
That was fascinating to me when I first found out that there was like people who would play StarCraft and not video games.

2756
03:30:29,680 --> 03:30:34,880
They would just play StarCraft. There was no other video games that they ever played.

2757
03:30:35,520 --> 03:30:39,840
It was like, oh wow. And then I started realizing that that was true for a bunch of different games.

2758
03:30:39,840 --> 03:30:41,360
I just first discovered it was StarCraft.

2759
03:30:43,200 --> 03:30:48,400
My life for hire. See, I thought they were mercenaries.

2760
03:30:48,400 --> 03:30:50,800
My life for hire? For the longest time. Did you actually? Yeah.

2761
03:30:53,280 --> 03:30:54,640
That's fairly reasonable.

2762
03:30:56,400 --> 03:31:01,120
I never really thought about that, but yeah, it does kind of sound like hire.

2763
03:31:01,120 --> 03:31:05,680
I didn't know what zealot meant. So I just, yeah, I just thought-

2764
03:31:05,680 --> 03:31:09,200
Zealot, I'm pretty sure is the right way to say it. I'm fairly certain I said zealot.

2765
03:31:09,200 --> 03:31:12,880
Oh, 100% did. Yeah. So many years. 100%.

2766
03:31:12,880 --> 03:31:13,760
So many years.

2767
03:31:18,320 --> 03:31:24,320
Anyways, I don't think there's much more unpacking of that. I really like the idea of the region lock just being timed though.

2768
03:31:24,320 --> 03:31:27,600
I think that's really cool. I like that a lot.

2769
03:31:27,600 --> 03:31:32,640
It's pretty funny that the monitor only runs at its maximum capabilities hooked up to a PC.

2770
03:31:33,440 --> 03:31:36,720
All right. Cool. Well, did you guys already talk through this? Yeah. Okay.

2771
03:31:36,720 --> 03:31:39,120
All right. Cool. I'm looking to close that then. What else we got?

2772
03:31:42,800 --> 03:31:45,600
There's lots. Yeah, there is. There's so much.

2773
03:31:46,560 --> 03:31:54,480
We can do here a couple rapid fire topics. A group of US lawyers has documented 509 cases of AI misuse in court filings.

2774
03:31:54,480 --> 03:32:02,800
No notes. That's terrible. That's rough. The UK is probing whether Chinese made Yutong electric buses on British roads can be remotely

2775
03:32:03,360 --> 03:32:04,000
disabled.

2776
03:32:07,920 --> 03:32:14,560
Yeah. So this is bad because Norway discovered that its Chinese made buses can be remotely turned off

2777
03:32:14,560 --> 03:32:15,760
by the manufacturer.

2778
03:32:18,160 --> 03:32:22,960
This needs to not be a thing and not specifically because these buses are made in China.

2779
03:32:23,520 --> 03:32:29,680
But again, because like calling a product the same thing or region locking, it's just bad.

2780
03:32:30,480 --> 03:32:36,640
When you buy something, you bought it. From anywhere. And you should have easy access to find information about it.

2781
03:32:36,640 --> 03:32:39,680
And you should have the right to use it in whatever the country you want.

2782
03:32:40,960 --> 03:32:44,800
That's it. I object your honor.

2783
03:32:48,720 --> 03:32:55,440
What else we got? Hackers. Speaking of right to repair and right to use things you bought.

2784
03:32:55,440 --> 03:32:59,840
Hackers are reviving Google's discontinued Nest thermostats with an open source project

2785
03:32:59,840 --> 03:33:03,440
called No Longer Evil. Yes. Amazing name.

2786
03:33:03,440 --> 03:33:10,880
Hard to believe. Incredible name. Google recently abandoned their Nest thermostats, making them no longer smart because Google

2787
03:33:10,880 --> 03:33:14,080
moved them to end of life and ripped functionality out of them.

2788
03:33:14,080 --> 03:33:16,240
They were launched between 2011 and 2014.

2789
03:33:17,200 --> 03:33:25,200
Cody Kosiemba? Has personal incentive to revive these thermostats due to prior clashes with Google,

2790
03:33:25,200 --> 03:33:32,320
but also a possible $15,000 financial incentive from Fulu to bring bricked devices back to life.

2791
03:33:33,680 --> 03:33:38,800
This is cool. The thermostat believes that it is communicating with the official Nest infrastructure,

2792
03:33:38,800 --> 03:33:42,480
but instead connects to the no longer evil platform.

2793
03:33:42,480 --> 03:33:46,160
This approach ensures full compatibility with the device's existing software

2794
03:33:46,160 --> 03:33:49,200
while breaking free from Google's cloud dependency.

2795
03:33:49,680 --> 03:33:53,520
The firmware images and back in API server code will be open sourced soon,

2796
03:33:53,520 --> 03:33:57,600
allowing the community to audit, improve, and self-host their own infrastructure.

2797
03:33:57,600 --> 03:34:04,160
How cool is this? The firmware upgrade from GitHub is still in the development stage, so the usual precautions apply,

2798
03:34:04,160 --> 03:34:09,440
but it can be easily integrated into Home Assistant using MQTT or REST APIs.

2799
03:34:09,440 --> 03:34:14,240
After applying the firmware, the user will be met with a new greeting, now made with 100% less evil.

2800
03:34:14,800 --> 03:34:19,760
Freaking love it. And our discussion question is, should right to repair regulations be updated

2801
03:34:19,760 --> 03:34:23,040
to include rules that provide immortality for evil devices?

2802
03:34:23,040 --> 03:34:26,880
The answer is yes, it needs to be done yesterday.

2803
03:34:26,880 --> 03:34:32,320
This needs to be dealt with instead of whatever the crap it is that legislators are doing right now.

2804
03:34:34,720 --> 03:34:41,840
Oh, there's more bad news though. Memory prices are set to skyrocket due to demand from AI data centers.

2805
03:34:41,840 --> 03:34:50,880
This was prepared by Mr. Pankratz. Sandisk has reportedly raised its NAND flash price contracts by 50% for November.

2806
03:34:52,000 --> 03:34:56,320
Numerous module makers have paused shipments to re-evaluate their quotes.

2807
03:34:56,880 --> 03:35:00,880
Transcend has suspended quoting and deliveries starting November 7th,

2808
03:35:00,880 --> 03:35:04,960
anticipating, this is a quote, favorable market conditions.

2809
03:35:05,680 --> 03:35:09,760
This comes as the memory market is being dominated by demand from AI data centers

2810
03:35:09,760 --> 03:35:15,360
and constrained wafer supply. So this is a really important point for folks that are looking at this going,

2811
03:35:15,360 --> 03:35:20,000
well, why is DDR4 RAM affected? That's older. Why is gamer memory affected?

2812
03:35:20,000 --> 03:35:25,360
It's because you still make RAM out of the same wafer,

2813
03:35:25,360 --> 03:35:31,040
whether it's going into a server or a phone or a laptop or a gaming computer

2814
03:35:31,040 --> 03:35:37,520
or whatever the case may be. Okay, that's not quite true. Like DDR4 RAM might actually not necessarily be made on the latest nodes.

2815
03:35:37,520 --> 03:35:42,720
But still, in general, you are constrained by how much fab time there is.

2816
03:35:44,880 --> 03:35:48,560
So in response to constrained wafer supply, oh, it's the wafer supply specifically.

2817
03:35:48,560 --> 03:35:52,240
Okay, so it would be constrained by supply of the actual wafer,

2818
03:35:52,240 --> 03:35:58,560
so that would affect any manufacturing process. So in response, manufacturers have shifted their production focus away

2819
03:35:58,560 --> 03:36:03,040
from products like consumer SSDs and DDR4 to more profitable DDR5 and HBM.

2820
03:36:03,040 --> 03:36:07,200
This is causing a Ryzen pricing across all memory related products.

2821
03:36:07,840 --> 03:36:11,600
Here's an interesting memory price trend page from PC Part Picker.

2822
03:36:12,560 --> 03:36:15,280
Whoopsie doodles. Here's the last 18 months.

2823
03:36:15,920 --> 03:36:18,560
Stable, stable, stable, stable, stable. Oh, no!

2824
03:36:20,080 --> 03:36:23,280
DDR4 3600. Stable, stable, down, down, down.

2825
03:36:23,280 --> 03:36:24,560
Up, up, stable, stable, stable.

2826
03:36:27,600 --> 03:36:28,960
Yeah, so this blows.

2827
03:36:35,760 --> 03:36:42,480
Neat. While customers are left scrambling to adapt, transcend,

2828
03:36:42,480 --> 03:36:46,960
InnoDisk and A-Pacer are reporting revenue increases exceeding 60% year over year for Q3.

2829
03:36:47,840 --> 03:36:51,360
So bully for them, I suppose. Discussion question is,

2830
03:36:51,360 --> 03:36:55,760
if you're looking to purchase FlashTorger RAM, would you aim to buy now or try to wait it out?

2831
03:36:55,760 --> 03:36:57,920
You could be waiting it out a very long time.

2832
03:37:00,400 --> 03:37:04,160
AI data center demand won't collapse until the bubble pops.

2833
03:37:04,160 --> 03:37:06,640
And what does it, what does it they say?

2834
03:37:07,280 --> 03:37:10,800
The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

2835
03:37:10,800 --> 03:37:19,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Fun times. In other news, AI-powered Russian humanoid robot walks on stage and falls on its face.

2836
03:37:20,240 --> 03:37:26,000
Sounds about right. All the non-Russian ones are held up by chains and cables.

2837
03:37:26,000 --> 03:37:31,760
So I don't know who's doing better. I don't think that's true. Unitry looks pretty impressive at this point.

2838
03:37:32,640 --> 03:37:36,320
Here's a video over on... Unitry. Yeah. Unitry's dope.

2839
03:37:37,040 --> 03:37:39,040
Here's a video from Blue Sky.

2840
03:37:42,000 --> 03:37:44,800
Wow, this is very far behind. Oh boy.

2841
03:37:46,640 --> 03:37:50,080
And... Oh wow.

2842
03:37:50,080 --> 03:37:53,360
Oh wow. And there it goes.

2843
03:37:53,360 --> 03:37:55,760
Oh! Oh!

2844
03:37:56,800 --> 03:38:01,360
It's funny, you could tell they knew it was screwed. Yeah, you could tell that it's Russian

2845
03:38:01,360 --> 03:38:03,920
because it had some vodka before it went out on stage. Wow.

2846
03:38:05,600 --> 03:38:08,240
Wow. Wow.

2847
03:38:09,280 --> 03:38:14,000
The creators accompanying the robot and some crew immediately try to pull the robot off stage

2848
03:38:14,000 --> 03:38:17,120
and hide broken leftover pieces with a large black cloth.

2849
03:38:17,120 --> 03:38:22,400
After Aldal, that's the name of the robot, threw itself off a building.

2850
03:38:22,400 --> 03:38:24,160
Sorry, I mean fell over on the stage.

2851
03:38:28,400 --> 03:38:31,760
Oh, here's another fun one. This is another kind of rapid fire one.

2852
03:38:31,760 --> 03:38:33,680
We sponsored a smaller creator.

2853
03:38:35,760 --> 03:38:38,960
Rude. You might have heard of them. Oh my god.

2854
03:38:40,400 --> 03:38:45,760
Ads. Love it. Hey, but this is also a much smaller sponsorship watching their ad.

2855
03:38:50,000 --> 03:38:50,960
Hold on, I gotta find it.

2856
03:38:55,440 --> 03:38:59,440
I actually don't know where the... Wow, there it is. Hey, you might know this guy.

2857
03:39:00,720 --> 03:39:07,120
I think I've seen him before. I've seen some very interesting speculation that we are like on terrible terms or something

2858
03:39:07,120 --> 03:39:10,800
with people who leave the team or, you know, whatever.

2859
03:39:10,800 --> 03:39:18,480
It is our earnest goal to be on good terms with anyone who departs here.

2860
03:39:18,480 --> 03:39:26,560
And it is our genuine wish that they continue to be successful outside of LMG.

2861
03:39:27,440 --> 03:39:29,360
I mean, look at it this way.

2862
03:39:31,280 --> 03:39:36,000
Let's assume that I was entirely driven by my own narcissistic ego.

2863
03:39:37,040 --> 03:39:38,560
Assume. Let's assume that.

2864
03:39:40,400 --> 03:39:43,360
We don't know that, but let's assume it.

2865
03:39:44,880 --> 03:39:50,000
Would I want someone to have a five-year career or 10-year career here

2866
03:39:50,400 --> 03:39:56,400
and not come out with useful skills such that they could be a success?

2867
03:39:56,400 --> 03:40:00,720
Right. It would just speak more well to you if they did.

2868
03:40:00,720 --> 03:40:04,880
How would that reflect on me and this organization?

2869
03:40:04,880 --> 03:40:07,920
The company, yeah. I mean, I'm always talking about it.

2870
03:40:07,920 --> 03:40:10,720
World-class team, you know?

2871
03:40:12,720 --> 03:40:17,440
Let's assume the worst possible set of assumptions about me.

2872
03:40:18,160 --> 03:40:25,360
Even then, would I have an interest in people flying free and then falling flat on their faces?

2873
03:40:25,360 --> 03:40:30,320
If it's worst possible assumptions, then sure, but I'm extrapolating this a little bit too far.

2874
03:40:31,360 --> 03:40:36,400
I mean, okay. I mean, the worst possible reasonable assumptions about my character.

2875
03:40:36,400 --> 03:40:37,680
Oh, you added reasonable, though.

2876
03:40:39,680 --> 03:40:44,320
Okay. What assumptions could you make about my character such that I would want Alex and Andy to fail?

2877
03:40:45,280 --> 03:40:48,400
If it's worst possible assumptions that I could make anything,

2878
03:40:49,920 --> 03:40:53,440
you just hate people and everyone and you want...

2879
03:40:53,440 --> 03:40:58,160
It's like that quote of my success means nothing if others do not also fail.

2880
03:40:59,040 --> 03:41:00,000
Have you heard that before?

2881
03:41:02,240 --> 03:41:05,920
But my success can also be measured by the success of people that I...

2882
03:41:05,920 --> 03:41:09,440
No, I agree. I agree. You said worst possible assumptions. I guess.

2883
03:41:10,160 --> 03:41:12,720
That would be terrible. There's people like that.

2884
03:41:14,480 --> 03:41:16,640
Okay. I mean, that's really stupid.

2885
03:41:19,280 --> 03:41:24,320
Anyway, yeah. So the point is I'm very excited.

2886
03:41:24,320 --> 03:41:35,040
This is actually not the only move that you guys will see.

2887
03:41:35,040 --> 03:41:43,360
We've got some pretty cool... I don't want to spoil anything because I don't want to take any of the wind out of the sales of the people who are going to be...

2888
03:41:44,240 --> 03:41:47,280
doing their own... Because that's the thing, right?

2889
03:41:47,280 --> 03:41:51,680
Is they're on their own. They're doing their own thing, which I'm very pro-entrepreneurship.

2890
03:41:51,680 --> 03:41:56,080
I've always been pro-small creators. I've always been pro-consumer.

2891
03:41:56,080 --> 03:42:03,040
I've always been pro-entrepreneurship. So I want to see people spread their wings and fly and I want to let them kind of

2892
03:42:03,040 --> 03:42:08,000
talk about the partnership in their own authentic voice before I go and put any words in their mouth.

2893
03:42:08,000 --> 03:42:10,800
But this will not be the last.

2894
03:42:11,040 --> 03:42:22,240
This will not be the last sort of collaboration slash partnership with people who used to be on payroll and no longer are.

2895
03:42:22,240 --> 03:42:30,160
It might not be hard to stretch that far, considering you did personally go out of your way to make us

2896
03:42:30,160 --> 03:42:42,320
that I couldn't meet Linus Torvalds. You know that even if only 0.1% of people are stupid enough to believe you right now,

2897
03:42:43,920 --> 03:42:45,840
that is still 10 people.

2898
03:42:47,520 --> 03:42:50,800
So you fucked me. Right now. Way to go. But there's also the VOD.

2899
03:42:50,800 --> 03:42:54,400
You fucked me 10 times. Plus the VOD. That's not enough.

2900
03:42:55,600 --> 03:42:58,480
I gotta pump those numbers up. The rookie numbers.

2901
03:43:02,480 --> 03:43:05,280
Oh man. That's cool. I think that's awesome.

2902
03:43:09,920 --> 03:43:11,920
Very cool. People have any questions?

2903
03:43:15,120 --> 03:43:19,200
Mu asks, is LMG becoming a creator university you get paid to be at?

2904
03:43:20,240 --> 03:43:24,320
I don't know. I mean we've talked about this. Is that the worst thing? We've talked about this a fair bit lately, right?

2905
03:43:24,320 --> 03:43:26,240
Like what is my legacy? Yeah.

2906
03:43:27,440 --> 03:43:33,200
If that happens, but we get, you know, if company hat firmly on, if we get good value out of them

2907
03:43:33,200 --> 03:43:39,200
while they're here, and then. If they fly free, why shouldn't we be happy about that?

2908
03:43:39,200 --> 03:43:44,320
People do leave companies. We have existed for so long at this point.

2909
03:43:44,320 --> 03:43:49,680
Yeah, 13 years. And like if we want to keep existing for say that amount of time longer,

2910
03:43:50,480 --> 03:43:57,200
people are going to continue to leave. That's what it is a fact of having companies basically.

2911
03:43:57,200 --> 03:44:02,480
There are some people as well that like they just have it in their veins that they're going to be

2912
03:44:02,480 --> 03:44:06,160
running their own thing. They're going to be an entrepreneur at some point. Yeah, they're just born to be an entrepreneur.

2913
03:44:06,160 --> 03:44:12,000
That's fine. That's good. We want them here. Sure. If they want to be here. If they want to hang out for a while, have some drive grow.

2914
03:44:12,000 --> 03:44:16,080
They tend to be motivated people. You're probably going to be here for at least a few years.

2915
03:44:16,080 --> 03:44:22,480
They tend to be innovators. We will have definitely gained things as a company from you in that time.

2916
03:44:23,920 --> 03:44:33,600
And then you can fly free if you want. And look, I'm not necessarily looking for suggestions for people for us to work with.

2917
03:44:34,480 --> 03:44:37,760
We make a good faith effort to part on good terms with everybody.

2918
03:44:37,760 --> 03:44:40,960
That doesn't necessarily mean that we succeed every time.

2919
03:44:41,920 --> 03:44:48,000
And Adora is never completely shut, almost never completely shut.

2920
03:44:52,320 --> 03:44:57,920
But we're definitely going to make the call in terms of who we are interested in partnering with.

2921
03:44:58,720 --> 03:45:01,920
Because you look at the way that we choose our sponsors,

2922
03:45:02,640 --> 03:45:08,880
it's going to be the same kind of thing. We're going to just like we partner with sponsors who we believe have strong character

2923
03:45:08,880 --> 03:45:12,960
and we hold them accountable in the same way the people that we're going to partner with

2924
03:45:12,960 --> 03:45:17,040
in terms of sponsorships, we're going to be selective.

2925
03:45:17,040 --> 03:45:22,240
And that applies across the board, whether someone's a former employee or whether someone isn't.

2926
03:45:22,960 --> 03:45:28,080
You can expect to see in general a lot more creator sponsorships coming from us in the coming

2927
03:45:28,080 --> 03:45:34,560
months. And I'm actually super stoked about it. It's pretty cool to kind of go full circle

2928
03:45:35,280 --> 03:45:38,000
from being the the sponsor to the sponsor.

2929
03:45:38,720 --> 03:45:42,160
It's weird. It's super weird. It's very weird.

2930
03:45:42,160 --> 03:45:47,200
It's weird looking at a video from the other end, if that makes sense.

2931
03:45:47,200 --> 03:45:52,960
Yeah. And like, and like, I don't have to do the negotiations on this stuff myself, right?

2932
03:45:52,960 --> 03:45:59,120
But like obviously, you know, for me to kind of just throw the money out there

2933
03:45:59,680 --> 03:46:02,720
and hope that the end product, you know, and my team is, you know,

2934
03:46:02,720 --> 03:46:06,800
making sure that everything goes smoothly and their link is correct.

2935
03:46:06,800 --> 03:46:10,000
Yeah, exactly. Like always like little stupid things that we know we have to deal with on our side and

2936
03:46:10,000 --> 03:46:14,960
just kind of seeing it from the, from the brand side. It's really weird.

2937
03:46:14,960 --> 03:46:19,040
Yeah. I was trying to scroll through his video to find the sponsorship on my own laptop and I,

2938
03:46:19,040 --> 03:46:23,760
and I found it and I want to watch this with sound because his intro into it looks funny.

2939
03:46:23,760 --> 03:46:29,600
But this is extremely unrelated, but he talks about Assetto Corsa.

2940
03:46:32,480 --> 03:46:38,320
Assetto Corsa, yeah. They have a new game that's in early access right now

2941
03:46:39,760 --> 03:46:43,680
called Assetto Corsa Rally that I'm like really hyped for.

2942
03:46:45,280 --> 03:46:48,880
Have you played it at all? I haven't. I got to get my Simrig set up.

2943
03:46:48,880 --> 03:46:56,480
You have to tell me how this is. Yeah. Because I used to love the dirt games, but when's the last dirt that came out?

2944
03:46:56,480 --> 03:47:05,040
Well, I mean, I'm a dirt one stand. Second one was kind of not as good in my eyes, but having it in an Assetto Corsa engine is

2945
03:47:05,040 --> 03:47:08,640
going to be amazing. I am very, very excited.

2946
03:47:10,000 --> 03:47:14,880
There's, I read the reviews. There was some comments on it, like, you know, they don't have the physics dialed yet and

2947
03:47:14,880 --> 03:47:21,040
stuff like that. So I'm interested in hearing what you have to say. And this is what I use VR for all the time.

2948
03:47:21,280 --> 03:47:26,880
That's why I kind of like that high end tethered experience. Like, dude, this is what I meant when I was like, I don't know that I'm really going to

2949
03:47:26,880 --> 03:47:31,440
regret buying the big screen beyond because if I can wear the big screen beyond to play this.

2950
03:47:31,440 --> 03:47:37,840
That's what I wanted for, you know, the heavy index does get kind of like

2951
03:47:38,400 --> 03:47:40,880
irritating when you're rapidly shoulder checking.

2952
03:47:42,240 --> 03:47:45,760
Right. Yeah. Right. Because I do some eye racing on the side too.

2953
03:47:45,760 --> 03:47:50,080
And like, you're basically like sitting there whipping your head about for three,

2954
03:47:50,080 --> 03:47:52,480
four hours straight sometimes and it gets exhausting.

2955
03:47:53,120 --> 03:47:56,800
Yeah. Sorry. I know that was quite the gear shift.

2956
03:47:59,680 --> 03:48:07,680
But I'm very, I'm very hyped for that game. I was going to steam to look for the official page for the new hardware they're launching

2957
03:48:07,680 --> 03:48:10,560
and that came up first for me. And I was like, oh, nice.

2958
03:48:11,680 --> 03:48:15,200
Anyways, yeah, it's exciting. I like the idea. I got to check that out.

2959
03:48:15,200 --> 03:48:19,920
Yes. Yes. I haven't had a functional computer in a, well, desktop in a very long time.

2960
03:48:19,920 --> 03:48:23,440
So who knows, but it's, it's cool.

2961
03:48:23,440 --> 03:48:27,840
I like the idea of working with creators that have worked here in the past.

2962
03:48:27,840 --> 03:48:34,800
I like the idea of fostering those relationships. I like this concept that like if we last for a long time, we might end up building our own kind

2963
03:48:34,800 --> 03:48:42,400
of like ecosystem of creators around here. I don't know if our own is fair enough to say, but like we could end up contributing towards

2964
03:48:42,960 --> 03:48:46,240
an ecosystem of creators around here because, you know, like there's many,

2965
03:48:46,880 --> 03:48:53,040
but there aren't like a ton in our space, at least creators in the tech technology,

2966
03:48:53,040 --> 03:49:01,280
DC area. So just like effectively kind of contributing towards that being more of a thing would be

2967
03:49:01,280 --> 03:49:04,400
pretty cool. Canada Tech Creator Valley. Sure.

2968
03:49:05,120 --> 03:49:07,280
Sweet. It sounds awesome to me.

2969
03:49:08,960 --> 03:49:16,000
Yeah. I don't need a new computer. It's my, my apartment is effectively non functional, meaning my computer is like

2970
03:49:16,480 --> 03:49:22,160
put away right now. All right. I think it's time for land show after dark.

2971
03:49:22,160 --> 03:49:32,160
Are we done all the topics? Did we do it? We're done. We did it. All right.

2972
03:49:36,560 --> 03:49:38,560
Heck yeah. Let's go.

2973
03:49:39,600 --> 03:49:43,520
What? Oh, I just thought you might read a merch message.

2974
03:49:43,520 --> 03:49:47,440
I was making it. He's getting purple. He's doing work.

2975
03:49:47,440 --> 03:49:48,880
Oh, I thought I curated this one.

2976
03:49:50,720 --> 03:49:54,880
The one thing I couldn't get out of Linus T was I couldn't get him to say,

2977
03:49:55,440 --> 03:49:57,120
I'd like to interject for a moment.

2978
03:50:01,120 --> 03:50:04,320
He didn't like, he didn't think it was funny. And I was like, okay.

2979
03:50:05,360 --> 03:50:07,520
Well, actually I wasn't like, okay, I tried really hard.

2980
03:50:08,960 --> 03:50:12,560
I think I overheard some of that. I was getting more and more upset for you.

2981
03:50:13,520 --> 03:50:17,520
No, no. Yes, it was Stallman, but that's exactly what's funny about it.

2982
03:50:17,520 --> 03:50:23,840
It's Stallman was, the point is, I tried to get him to do, I was going to refer to him.

2983
03:50:23,840 --> 03:50:27,280
I was going to refer to myself as Linus and I wanted him to say,

2984
03:50:27,280 --> 03:50:33,040
I'd like to interject for a moment what you're referring to as Linus is in fact, Linus, or as I've taken to calling it.

2985
03:50:33,680 --> 03:50:36,800
But like, he was just like, I don't think it's funny. I'm like, okay.

2986
03:50:37,840 --> 03:50:40,960
I see what you're going for. I can understand him not thinking that's funny.

2987
03:50:40,960 --> 03:50:44,080
Yeah. I thought it was very funny though. Yeah.

2988
03:50:44,080 --> 03:50:47,280
So I tried. I tried. I almost died on that hill. Sure.

2989
03:50:47,280 --> 03:50:50,640
Fortunately, he didn't just pack his bags and leave. Yeah.

2990
03:50:50,640 --> 03:50:55,360
It was not worth actually dying on, but I can definitely appreciate an effort.

2991
03:50:55,360 --> 03:50:59,760
Sammy fucked me by like not getting the reference. And I was like, no, no, people will get the reference.

2992
03:50:59,760 --> 03:51:05,120
It'll be really funny. And I was like, Sammy, Sammy, you're dying to like internet.

2993
03:51:05,120 --> 03:51:08,640
But he like didn't know I'd like to interject for a moment.

2994
03:51:08,640 --> 03:51:12,080
Sammy's dialed into brain rot. It's not the same thing.

2995
03:51:12,080 --> 03:51:15,440
Terrible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2996
03:51:15,440 --> 03:51:18,000
It completely fucked me on that one. Okay.

2997
03:51:19,120 --> 03:51:22,960
Buying the computer, the commuter bag for my wife.

2998
03:51:22,960 --> 03:51:26,320
A soon to be doctor of physical therapy. Nice.

2999
03:51:26,320 --> 03:51:33,520
A good professional backpack. Nice. Do either of you have any funny or interesting stories about physical therapists?

3000
03:51:33,520 --> 03:51:36,480
Physical therapy humor, Dan. What are you even trying to do right now?

3001
03:51:37,040 --> 03:51:42,960
I don't know. Do you curate this? You have elbow? I, when I was having crazy knee problems.

3002
03:51:42,960 --> 03:51:46,480
Sure. Okay. Funny. I tried to solve it through physical therapy.

3003
03:51:46,480 --> 03:51:49,840
I ended up solving it with YouTube videos, which is strange.

3004
03:51:49,840 --> 03:51:57,520
But I went to multiple physiotherapists at first. One of them wanted to do needles, but it was like little ones.

3005
03:51:58,800 --> 03:52:03,040
Yeah. Needles are dead. He always corrects me on because there's like big ones and little ones and people,

3006
03:52:03,040 --> 03:52:06,880
I say acupuncture or whatever the other one is and they correct me, whatever.

3007
03:52:06,880 --> 03:52:12,480
It was little needles. They're putting them in my quad. And she ended up like sending me away as a client.

3008
03:52:12,480 --> 03:52:17,040
Like I will not do this with you anymore. I can maybe do other things with you, but we will not do this

3009
03:52:17,040 --> 03:52:20,640
because she'd put them in my quad and then my quad we go and bend them all.

3010
03:52:21,280 --> 03:52:23,040
Right. So you were breaking all her needles.

3011
03:52:24,320 --> 03:52:26,560
Nice. Okay. That's pretty funny.

3012
03:52:27,360 --> 03:52:34,000
That's the best I got. Didn't they also tell you that you were weird as all hell, like very strange client

3013
03:52:34,000 --> 03:52:36,880
because you actually did the exercises as you were assigned? Yeah.

3014
03:52:37,520 --> 03:52:42,960
Yeah. My current physiotherapist said that basically I had a, I don't know what it was.

3015
03:52:42,960 --> 03:52:46,640
I'd pros with my thumbs. I screwed up both of my thumbs, which was kind of weird.

3016
03:52:46,640 --> 03:52:50,560
And he gave me a bunch of like a little hand pushups and like all these other weird things.

3017
03:52:50,560 --> 03:52:55,200
And then I came back to him and was like, we're good.

3018
03:52:55,200 --> 03:52:59,440
Let's work on something else. But like the thumbs are good. And he was like, what?

3019
03:53:00,880 --> 03:53:05,680
Which was great. That's cool. All right. Well, I have nothing for funny physical therapy stories,

3020
03:53:05,680 --> 03:53:13,120
but I do have some validation of that merge message that the commuter bag is awesome.

3021
03:53:13,120 --> 03:53:16,080
I got this from the head robot at D brand a few minutes ago.

3022
03:53:18,320 --> 03:53:21,840
Got the CW holiday care package genuinely so good. Thanks team loved it.

3023
03:53:24,400 --> 03:53:28,480
I'm going to out him here. I'm going to do it. Kept the commuter bag for myself.

3024
03:53:29,520 --> 03:53:37,120
Tossing my peak design. Oh, usually companies don't need my other companies.

3025
03:53:39,200 --> 03:53:42,960
Leaked the DM. Sammy did it to me today.

3026
03:53:42,960 --> 03:53:46,160
Seems fair. Yep. Seems fair. Seems fair. You know what?

3027
03:53:46,800 --> 03:53:50,400
That is actually like a killer endorsement because you know,

3028
03:53:51,200 --> 03:53:57,200
you know what the head robot is like in terms of attention to detail and quality.

3029
03:53:57,200 --> 03:54:02,080
And appearance, I'm sure. And you've seen how expensive the head robots stickers are.

3030
03:54:02,080 --> 03:54:07,040
So surely the head robot could afford any backpack that he or she desired.

3031
03:54:08,080 --> 03:54:09,440
So with all of that in mind.

3032
03:54:13,520 --> 03:54:15,920
Okay. What's next? Pretty good. Q for Luke.

3033
03:54:16,560 --> 03:54:19,360
If you had a nickel for every time you missed out on a gigantic Linux

3034
03:54:20,000 --> 03:54:23,840
related event, you'd have two nickels. Which one hurts more?

3035
03:54:24,560 --> 03:54:26,880
This one. What was the first one?

3036
03:54:28,960 --> 03:54:33,360
I don't even know. What could even compare to this? That's, yeah. This is the one to end all ones.

3037
03:54:33,360 --> 03:54:36,880
I'm sure I could search my brain vault and find it.

3038
03:54:38,080 --> 03:54:46,320
I vaguely have a memory of that being a thing. But there's too much recency damage that I can't, I can't even.

3039
03:54:46,320 --> 03:54:49,520
I think the term is recency bias. No, just damage.

3040
03:54:54,960 --> 03:54:57,760
Sorry, dude. Vance is nothing if he's not efficient.

3041
03:54:59,360 --> 03:55:06,000
Up next. High overly charismatic man, Dan, and chicken in sauce pan.

3042
03:55:08,400 --> 03:55:12,880
These are, again, very creative. You've heard of price to performance.

3043
03:55:12,880 --> 03:55:15,440
Now you're hearing of size to annoyance.

3044
03:55:16,080 --> 03:55:28,160
What is the smallest thing Linus excluded that bothers you most?

3045
03:55:28,880 --> 03:55:33,920
All right, I like it.

3046
03:55:33,920 --> 03:55:37,840
That's a good question. That's a quality merge message. Because it's Linus excluded?

3047
03:55:38,720 --> 03:55:42,800
I'm going to go, no, I mean, if I was the smallest thing that annoyed you the most,

3048
03:55:42,800 --> 03:55:44,080
it would be good for me to know.

3049
03:55:47,120 --> 03:55:49,360
I'm going to go with eating sounds.

3050
03:55:50,240 --> 03:55:54,400
That is actually my barometer for if I'm in a bad mood.

3051
03:55:54,960 --> 03:56:01,200
Because sometimes I can't tell. But if someone is chewing a little bit next to me,

3052
03:56:02,080 --> 03:56:07,280
and they don't have their mouth open or anything, but I can just hear eating noises,

3053
03:56:07,840 --> 03:56:11,920
I get a bit of misophonia. I don't love eating noises at the best of times.

3054
03:56:13,120 --> 03:56:18,960
Like my stepdad used to drive me nuts because he would eat cereal with his mouth open.

3055
03:56:18,960 --> 03:56:24,800
And to be clear, my stepdad is the best stepdad that ever walked the face of the earth.

3056
03:56:24,800 --> 03:56:29,680
He's pretty great. I was never treated any differently from his own blood children.

3057
03:56:29,680 --> 03:56:34,160
And that is something that is maybe not completely unique,

3058
03:56:35,120 --> 03:56:42,320
but it is pretty darn special for a stepparent to have, for me to go through,

3059
03:56:44,000 --> 03:56:47,600
I don't know how many, like I don't know how many years I lived with them,

3060
03:56:47,600 --> 03:56:54,880
or even before I lived with them. Like the second he married my mom, I was his kid.

3061
03:56:54,880 --> 03:56:57,920
I was his son. And I called him dad.

3062
03:56:57,920 --> 03:57:00,560
Call my dad dad too, but whatever. Dad dad, two dads.

3063
03:57:01,120 --> 03:57:02,640
Turns out it doesn't f**k you up that much.

3064
03:57:05,520 --> 03:57:06,800
Obviously different context.

3065
03:57:15,120 --> 03:57:22,800
The point is, we have a literal button on the show.

3066
03:57:26,560 --> 03:57:29,440
The point is he wasn't much of a quiet eater.

3067
03:57:30,400 --> 03:57:34,880
And so it's, I've always known that it's something that kind of like bothered me,

3068
03:57:34,880 --> 03:57:41,760
but I've, I've outgrown it. I've like mostly gotten over it, except when I'm low blood sugar or I haven't had enough sleep,

3069
03:57:41,760 --> 03:57:48,960
or usually both, I'll be like, I'll realize I'm like holding something kind of tight.

3070
03:57:49,600 --> 03:57:53,040
And Yvonne's just like sitting there, like eating something.

3071
03:57:53,680 --> 03:58:01,360
I'll be like, okay, I need to deal with this because I am about to like slap the food out

3072
03:58:01,360 --> 03:58:05,600
of her hand if I don't deal with my mood right now.

3073
03:58:05,600 --> 03:58:13,200
So that I'd say that's mine. I've had the, the eating noises thing as well, but I think a more recent, so like current one.

3074
03:58:13,200 --> 03:58:17,040
And I, it feels almost irrational.

3075
03:58:17,040 --> 03:58:20,560
Well, that's the thing. But I mean, that's basically what we're being asked, right?

3076
03:58:20,560 --> 03:58:23,120
It drives me insane when someone is,

3077
03:58:26,400 --> 03:58:31,440
there are forms of it that are okay, but it's like when it's quiet enough that you're doing this

3078
03:58:31,440 --> 03:58:37,040
or yeah, this, but if you, if you're playing stuff on your phone on speakers in public,

3079
03:58:38,080 --> 03:58:41,680
oh, I mean, that's, that's not even a small thing. But this has been confusing to me.

3080
03:58:41,680 --> 03:58:46,160
That's a big thing. It's been confusing me because like I was waiting at a train station recently

3081
03:58:46,800 --> 03:58:51,440
and someone was playing music out of a Bluetooth speaker attached to their backpack,

3082
03:58:51,440 --> 03:58:56,160
just walking around. Yeah. And it drove me nuts. No, that person's just a f***ing ass.

3083
03:58:56,160 --> 03:59:02,000
But then somebody drove by a f***ing thing whole. Somebody drove by in a car that had fairly loud music.

3084
03:59:02,560 --> 03:59:06,400
That didn't bother me. That's interesting.

3085
03:59:06,400 --> 03:59:09,440
Because that I thought was weird. They both bother me equally.

3086
03:59:10,080 --> 03:59:16,160
They don't bother me equally. Okay. Let's go in between. What about someone with their Bluetooth speaker hanging off of their cycle,

3087
03:59:16,160 --> 03:59:22,160
their bike, their bicycle? That's the word I was looking for. I feel like that would bother me because I feel like I was trying to unpack this.

3088
03:59:22,160 --> 03:59:26,080
Yeah. I don't know for the cycle. It'd be interesting to like have it happen and then try to evaluate.

3089
03:59:26,080 --> 03:59:31,040
But yeah, okay. The car one to me is it's like, it's theoretically their space

3090
03:59:31,840 --> 03:59:37,680
and it's leaking out of their space. Yeah. But they very clearly don't need it to be that loud in their space.

3091
03:59:37,680 --> 03:59:40,560
They're literally damaging their hearing and they're making it your problem.

3092
03:59:41,200 --> 03:59:45,600
That's true. I also wonder like if their window was open, would that change for me or not?

3093
03:59:45,600 --> 03:59:52,480
I'm not sure. I don't know. Okay. What if they were in their own house, but their music was so loud

3094
03:59:52,480 --> 03:59:57,200
that you could hear it inside your own house? This is an interesting one as a condo dweller.

3095
03:59:57,200 --> 04:00:06,160
This is the thing that happens. And I generally try to respect it because I'm like, you know what?

3096
04:00:06,160 --> 04:00:13,040
We're all stuck in this big thing together. What if it was detached homes and you could still,

3097
04:00:13,040 --> 04:00:18,640
you could hear their music clearly? I feel like if it was a event or a movie.

3098
04:00:18,640 --> 04:00:21,440
Nope. It's just always like every day.

3099
04:00:22,000 --> 04:00:29,280
That's pretty annoying. Yeah. But then it might change if this is a garage band.

3100
04:00:29,280 --> 04:00:34,080
Nope. We had to go confront this whole back when we were,

3101
04:00:34,080 --> 04:00:39,440
when Brian the electrician and I were filming the installing AC in my attic thing,

3102
04:00:39,440 --> 04:00:44,880
because it was so loud we couldn't film from a house away.

3103
04:00:46,000 --> 04:00:49,840
And I actually, I probably still have audio of the interaction somewhere.

3104
04:00:49,840 --> 04:00:54,720
But basically like this guy was the biggest piece of garbage ever.

3105
04:00:54,720 --> 04:01:00,560
Like as we walked up to the door, the like two year old, two to three year old

3106
04:01:00,560 --> 04:01:05,200
was about to come bolting out. And I like, like there's a road and I like stopped him.

3107
04:01:05,200 --> 04:01:10,720
And the first thing he says to me is don't touch my son. And I'm like, bro, I wouldn't need to.

3108
04:01:11,440 --> 04:01:17,280
If you weren't an utter delinquent, what a way to start a conversation.

3109
04:01:17,760 --> 04:01:22,640
I'm not saying what you said is that I just the whole scenario and dude,

3110
04:01:22,640 --> 04:01:28,880
this house was so loud. Like when the door was opened, we're talking hearing damage for that kid.

3111
04:01:28,880 --> 04:01:32,160
Like crazy. And he's like, I have to have it like this.

3112
04:01:32,160 --> 04:01:37,440
I'm a DJ. I'm like, what? So you're the world's first DJ that hasn't heard of a pair of headphones.

3113
04:01:37,440 --> 04:01:42,240
You got to be kidding me right now. They literally have headphones. Does that mean this guy's a piece of work.

3114
04:01:42,240 --> 04:01:47,040
These actually like do it. You can turn the cup wild.

3115
04:01:47,600 --> 04:01:53,440
Wow. Wild. I don't, I don't think I've had much of a dumber conversation with any,

3116
04:01:53,440 --> 04:01:58,000
like otherwise seemingly coherent functional human being.

3117
04:01:58,000 --> 04:02:05,760
Also like, man. You are not recreating the speaker setup at the club with your home thing.

3118
04:02:05,760 --> 04:02:10,560
If you can get, if you, I actually don't know this because I'm, I don't partake,

3119
04:02:10,560 --> 04:02:15,600
but if you can get high from secondhand marijuana smoke, that kid was probably high.

3120
04:02:15,600 --> 04:02:18,400
Like it was intense. You can.

3121
04:02:19,040 --> 04:02:25,520
Oh, okay. There you go. Man, brutal, brutal neighbor.

3122
04:02:25,520 --> 04:02:28,080
I think it has a, I think it's called contact high.

3123
04:02:28,720 --> 04:02:30,480
I'm sure someone in full point chat will correct.

3124
04:02:35,280 --> 04:02:38,960
Nope. Okay. Yes. Something like that.

3125
04:02:38,960 --> 04:02:47,520
Yeah. And I feel really bad for the kid too. Like, I can't feel bad for an adult that is just like an idiot and harms themselves.

3126
04:02:47,520 --> 04:02:52,000
I just don't really care. They're an adult and they have agency.

3127
04:02:52,000 --> 04:02:55,600
Contact high is psycho. Psycho somatic.

3128
04:02:55,600 --> 04:02:58,800
Oh, apparently it's fake. You just think you're high.

3129
04:02:59,360 --> 04:03:03,600
Nevermind then. I don't know. Then Rick says we used to call it hot boxing.

3130
04:03:04,480 --> 04:03:10,800
Yes. It's a contact high. Well, apparently there is some disagreement about that.

3131
04:03:14,080 --> 04:03:15,280
I'm going to consult the sands.

3132
04:03:17,760 --> 04:03:20,640
The sands say yes. What's the sands?

3133
04:03:21,360 --> 04:03:23,520
AI. AI. You got to be kidding me. Okay. Let's move on.

3134
04:03:24,480 --> 04:03:26,560
This guy. I was doing it as a joke.

3135
04:03:27,680 --> 04:03:30,960
I know, I know. They said washroom.

3136
04:03:30,960 --> 04:03:34,480
I was looking for this and I tried bathroom, restroom, all that sort of stuff.

3137
04:03:34,480 --> 04:03:40,800
Question for Luke while Linus is in the washroom probably. Gen AI is being compared to the industrial revolution,

3138
04:03:40,800 --> 04:03:45,680
short-term disruption with long-term benefits. How much carnage until the good part?

3139
04:03:46,240 --> 04:03:47,200
So tell me something.

3140
04:03:49,760 --> 04:03:51,120
The industrial revolution.

3141
04:03:53,920 --> 04:03:57,600
Benefit yes, but to everyone?

3142
04:03:58,880 --> 04:04:02,240
No. Or was the benefit

3143
04:04:03,200 --> 04:04:13,600
massively unequal and is it in fact worse for people who are on the lower rungs of the social ladder

3144
04:04:14,320 --> 04:04:15,600
than things were before?

3145
04:04:18,000 --> 04:04:23,600
I'm talking like you're sifting through, you know, the shipped off,

3146
04:04:24,880 --> 04:04:30,400
you know, cadmium infested remains of technology in

3147
04:04:32,480 --> 04:04:36,160
some place where they're literally just like burning this stuff to get

3148
04:04:36,160 --> 04:04:38,080
to the precious metals that are in it.

3149
04:04:41,840 --> 04:04:47,920
The industrial revolution was highly beneficial to the owner class in the developed world.

3150
04:04:47,920 --> 04:04:52,640
I'm not convinced that it was necessarily beneficial to every human being on earth.

3151
04:04:52,640 --> 04:04:58,000
It's interesting because like you could argue a lot of medicines and stuff wouldn't have been

3152
04:04:58,000 --> 04:05:03,760
possible really without more advanced technologies that came from things like the industrial

3153
04:05:03,760 --> 04:05:08,400
revolution. And those benefited people, but they sure as heck didn't benefit anyone who's not

3154
04:05:09,520 --> 04:05:13,680
getting access to what you described. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3155
04:05:13,680 --> 04:05:17,520
Interesting. Uh, to more directly address. Oh no, I wasn't done.

3156
04:05:17,520 --> 04:05:21,200
Okay, keep going. Gen AI, same thing.

3157
04:05:21,200 --> 04:05:25,520
I think that's what we're going to see. I think we're going to see short-term disruption to

3158
04:05:26,880 --> 04:05:33,280
unequally to people. And I think we're going to see long-term benefits very unequally to.

3159
04:05:36,320 --> 04:05:39,040
I'd even wager even more unequally. Possibly.

3160
04:05:39,760 --> 04:05:42,000
I also think it has an interesting effect.

3161
04:05:43,520 --> 04:05:47,280
Wendell, Wendell shared me a meme recently that I couldn't agree with more.

3162
04:05:47,840 --> 04:05:51,040
Um, not, not directly, you know, whatever.

3163
04:05:51,040 --> 04:05:56,800
It's still a meme, but, um, if it would load, what, discord?

3164
04:05:56,800 --> 04:06:03,520
Hello. Uh, anyways, it was something along the lines of like, if, if the world realized how fast,

3165
04:06:04,080 --> 04:06:08,160
um, like local AI is getting extremely good.

3166
04:06:08,160 --> 04:06:11,360
Here it is. Yeah. It's a tweet, apparently.

3167
04:06:12,080 --> 04:06:15,600
If people understood how good local LLMs are getting, the stock market would crash tomorrow.

3168
04:06:16,160 --> 04:06:20,560
Um, and it was a response to a tweet that said, anthropic doesn't want you to know,

3169
04:06:20,560 --> 04:06:23,840
but you can self-host LLM like Quinn and use it in cloud code for free.

3170
04:06:24,320 --> 04:06:32,480
Um, there is an interesting side effect of this where the beneficial part for some people

3171
04:06:32,480 --> 04:06:36,960
is happening now. It's less applicable to some and it's highly applicable to other others.

3172
04:06:36,960 --> 04:06:42,640
Locally hosting this stuff is expensive and not the easiest thing for everyone to do.

3173
04:06:43,120 --> 04:06:47,360
Um, but you can also gain gain access non locally hosted.

3174
04:06:47,360 --> 04:06:51,840
That was just kind of an aside for actually quite cheap and in a lot of cases completely

3175
04:06:51,840 --> 04:06:56,720
free and it's enabling this like, I don't remember who was talking about it, but it's

3176
04:06:57,920 --> 04:07:05,120
there are some comparisons you can make to renaissance knowledge, education, speed of

3177
04:07:05,120 --> 04:07:11,920
learning and ability to jump into something from nowhere and get to a fairly, uh, competent point

3178
04:07:11,920 --> 04:07:16,880
has like never really been easier flip side, speed of misinformation and disinformation

3179
04:07:16,880 --> 04:07:21,600
for sure. Like there are, I'm not, I'm not trying to hide that there are extreme negatives.

3180
04:07:21,600 --> 04:07:28,720
Right. I'm saying that in some cases there are, there are the ability for one person to leverage themselves

3181
04:07:28,720 --> 04:07:35,760
very highly. I don't think has ever quite been at this level before, which is interesting, which is very,

3182
04:07:35,760 --> 04:07:40,720
very interesting. And some people are already turning that into like highly positive beneficial situations

3183
04:07:41,440 --> 04:07:51,440
overall. What we're doing is enabling the surveillance of extreme garbage and slop massive amounts

3184
04:07:51,440 --> 04:07:55,600
of surveillance state because self hosting is so expensive that you're probably doing it

3185
04:07:55,600 --> 04:07:59,120
through some other system, which is harvesting every single thing you've ever typed into it,

3186
04:07:59,120 --> 04:08:04,720
building profiles on you. Like we've never seen before, like only wet dreams of early Google.

3187
04:08:05,600 --> 04:08:13,840
Like there is, there is so much bad, but in almost everything, especially this complicated,

3188
04:08:13,840 --> 04:08:21,360
there is diamonds in the rough. And there are people that are utilizing this stuff to extremely beneficial personal.

3189
04:08:21,360 --> 04:08:24,720
And I mean small, small person degrees.

3190
04:08:24,720 --> 04:08:31,600
Social mobility is I guess what you're trying to say. Massive amounts of it for specific people who can think of a way to leverage it.

3191
04:08:32,160 --> 04:08:37,840
Yep. For themselves positively. But that doesn't change what I said about the benefit being highly unequal.

3192
04:08:37,840 --> 04:08:41,600
And all knowing socks says even homeless people have supercomputers in their pockets.

3193
04:08:41,600 --> 04:08:44,800
The industrial revolution came with new problems, but was overall beneficial.

3194
04:08:45,360 --> 04:08:55,360
But I think you're missing part of what I was saying. And yeah, a homeless person in the USA is probably in a better position than that same

3195
04:08:55,360 --> 04:08:58,640
homeless person in Southeast Asia or India. Oh, well, yeah.

3196
04:08:58,640 --> 04:09:08,560
Yeah. And like the USA is actually a very small portion of the global population.

3197
04:09:09,280 --> 04:09:13,520
Like I don't know that I don't know that.

3198
04:09:13,520 --> 04:09:20,000
He literally did divide it up by like countries. Yeah, people in Western countries, I don't think necessarily always remember

3199
04:09:20,720 --> 04:09:23,840
how in the minority we are in general.

3200
04:09:29,360 --> 04:09:36,000
Yeah, it's going to be a rough and frankly, all of this, I mean, we got to keep in mind

3201
04:09:36,800 --> 04:09:39,680
all of this is coming from the perspective of someone who is

3202
04:09:40,400 --> 04:09:42,560
much less likely to be harmed by any of this.

3203
04:09:44,080 --> 04:09:46,000
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

3204
04:09:47,200 --> 04:09:55,760
Like we're going to be fine. We're in a position to leverage AI, leverage this revolution,

3205
04:09:56,640 --> 04:09:59,680
invest capital and benefit from it.

3206
04:10:04,080 --> 04:10:08,240
Like when I say this is bad, I don't mean bad for me. I just, I mean bad like generally.

3207
04:10:10,000 --> 04:10:14,960
It's the yikes. Moolajin, which I hope I said correctly, said,

3208
04:10:14,960 --> 04:10:18,000
dude, the, did I just lose audio? Did you just unplug?

3209
04:10:18,000 --> 04:10:24,960
I'm sorry. I'm just fidgeting. Said, dude, the people in Chile that sort or is in chemical baths for like 20 cents a day.

3210
04:10:24,960 --> 04:10:31,760
It's absolutely crazy. Yeah, they are not better off than they would have been in like a more agricultural society

3211
04:10:31,760 --> 04:10:34,240
200 years ago. I pretty much promise you that.

3212
04:10:35,920 --> 04:10:39,440
Yeah. It's weird. But yeah, there are, man.

3213
04:10:40,240 --> 04:10:43,440
I'm sorry. Is it worry?

3214
04:10:43,440 --> 04:10:49,200
There we go. And like the uncontacted people in South America that are getting like mercury poison

3215
04:10:49,200 --> 04:10:52,400
from illegal gold mines, they're not better off.

3216
04:10:52,400 --> 04:11:00,640
That makes sense. Yeah. But I mean, it's, I think it's important to see both ends of it at the same time and hold

3217
04:11:00,640 --> 04:11:07,200
both sides of it in your mind. I think you need to, to like have a more accurate perspective on it, I guess.

3218
04:11:07,760 --> 04:11:11,440
I think you need to recognize the good sides and recognize the bad sides.

3219
04:11:12,320 --> 04:11:20,480
There are absolutely ways that it has helped. I think the modern Renaissance version of it is something that shouldn't be ignored

3220
04:11:20,480 --> 04:11:25,600
even while you can hold and understand the concepts of the negatives that it is also creating.

3221
04:11:26,880 --> 04:11:32,320
And I mean, bots makes a good point. You know, scholarly papers I've seen on global food security show it's way better globally

3222
04:11:32,320 --> 04:11:35,760
than before the industrial revolution as is medicine. And that's fine.

3223
04:11:35,760 --> 04:11:46,320
But that doesn't change that a generally good thing can still be worse for some people.

3224
04:11:46,320 --> 04:11:51,600
And that was the entire point was that this is not a universal benefit.

3225
04:11:52,240 --> 04:11:57,120
Like the industrial revolution, this is not going to universally elevate people.

3226
04:11:57,120 --> 04:12:01,840
There are people's lives who will be worse for it. There are also people's lives who will be better for it.

3227
04:12:01,840 --> 04:12:04,080
And some who, where it will be much better.

3228
04:12:05,840 --> 04:12:13,680
But it does seem like this one, this one steers even farther toward benefiting the haves

3229
04:12:14,320 --> 04:12:19,680
at the expense of the have nots. And the surveillance one is a huge one that we didn't touch on too much,

3230
04:12:19,680 --> 04:12:31,520
but is a major element of this. I don't know that in another 30, 40, 50 years with autonomous tools for population management

3231
04:12:32,080 --> 04:12:43,520
and cameras everywhere, I don't know that peasant uprisings will still be possible.

3232
04:12:44,320 --> 04:12:52,320
I don't know that you'll still be able to overthrow a corrupt dictator.

3233
04:12:52,320 --> 04:12:58,880
I don't know that it will be possible anymore. Something makes you want to push forward the indomitable human spirit.

3234
04:12:58,880 --> 04:13:01,680
I feel like we'd find a way, but I understand what you're saying.

3235
04:13:02,240 --> 04:13:08,480
I hope so. I still have that hope. There's a lot of, you know, the Gen Z uprisings and stuff.

3236
04:13:08,480 --> 04:13:12,880
There's a lot of crazy stuff going on right now and big in a lot of ways.

3237
04:13:13,200 --> 04:13:21,920
But there's no army of impervious robot dogs with AI controlled turrets on them.

3238
04:13:21,920 --> 04:13:25,520
Hacker bros, dude. Hacker bros. Let's hope for the best.

3239
04:13:28,240 --> 04:13:31,600
The hacker bros are goaded. But like how are the North Koreans doing even now?

3240
04:13:33,440 --> 04:13:35,600
But that has nothing to do with...

3241
04:13:38,720 --> 04:13:42,400
I mean, they're definitely using population management tools.

3242
04:13:42,400 --> 04:13:48,000
Guarantee you they're using AI. Yeah.

3243
04:13:48,000 --> 04:13:51,920
100% the wealthy pitting us lessers against each other. Yeah, I mean, for sure.

3244
04:13:51,920 --> 04:13:55,440
Well, it's the cookie thing. There are a few truer memes than the cookie meme.

3245
04:13:58,880 --> 04:14:03,040
Big time. How is that not the first cookie meme?

3246
04:14:04,720 --> 04:14:12,720
Google, are you trying to hide this from me? I could, I could see cookie monster stuff being shared.

3247
04:14:12,720 --> 04:14:16,240
Oh, wow. Yeah, but still, how far do I have to go for this surprise?

3248
04:14:16,240 --> 04:14:17,200
It hasn't shown up yet.

3249
04:14:21,360 --> 04:14:23,680
There we go. Top top left.

3250
04:14:28,960 --> 04:14:32,400
I don't know what it says, but this is the meme. Yeah, it's basically this.

3251
04:14:33,680 --> 04:14:34,080
Yeah.

3252
04:14:36,960 --> 04:14:40,240
Yeah. Yeah.

3253
04:14:44,880 --> 04:14:51,840
But anyways, yeah, it's, you know, if you can afford... I'm, once I get my stupid condo to liveable again,

3254
04:14:53,520 --> 04:14:56,800
I'm planning on trying to figure out local hosting in a big way

3255
04:14:56,800 --> 04:15:04,560
for a wide variety of things, but including local LLM and AI services.

3256
04:15:04,560 --> 04:15:09,360
I don't really want to use public ones much moving forward.

3257
04:15:10,880 --> 04:15:16,160
I want to shift to that largely inspired by Wendell.

3258
04:15:16,160 --> 04:15:18,720
I was already planning on it, but largely inspired by Wendell.

3259
04:15:20,880 --> 04:15:24,800
And I would highly encourage all of you to explore it.

3260
04:15:24,800 --> 04:15:29,360
I understand it can be expensive. There are also much cheaper ways to approach it.

3261
04:15:29,360 --> 04:15:36,480
Used hardware is obviously a good way to go. The Mac stuff is very, very interesting.

3262
04:15:36,480 --> 04:15:40,080
And if you can't jump in now, there's always the possibility

3263
04:15:40,080 --> 04:15:44,320
that these big data centers will be updating cards eventually.

3264
04:15:45,440 --> 04:15:48,800
And what you can run now on that level of hardware

3265
04:15:49,840 --> 04:15:53,200
will be runnable in the future on that level of hardware.

3266
04:15:53,200 --> 04:15:57,120
So you might be behind, but you'd have at least what we currently have today

3267
04:15:58,080 --> 04:16:00,800
at your usage.

3268
04:16:03,280 --> 04:16:06,960
There was a pretty good little chat message here.

3269
04:16:06,960 --> 04:16:11,440
Coordinated Carrie asks, can you name one change with truly universal benefit?

3270
04:16:12,720 --> 04:16:14,640
I'm going to go with open source.

3271
04:16:20,320 --> 04:16:28,480
Anyone at harm had it coming. I've got Mr. Torvalds on the mind.

3272
04:16:28,480 --> 04:16:33,280
I can counter that. Okay, counter that. Hit me. Because there's been malware distributed through open source stuff.

3273
04:16:34,400 --> 04:16:37,840
There has been ways that- I don't think that was open source.

3274
04:16:38,960 --> 04:16:45,680
But it enabled it. But Net, did it make the life of that person who was infected with malware worse?

3275
04:16:48,240 --> 04:16:51,520
Because overall, it contributed so much positive to their life too.

3276
04:16:52,720 --> 04:16:55,920
I have to look through some of the cases of- Open source is a pretty good one.

3277
04:17:00,320 --> 04:17:01,840
Open source or source available?

3278
04:17:04,880 --> 04:17:08,800
That is a good question. Walker161, penicillin. Yeah, penicillin was pretty dope.

3279
04:17:08,800 --> 04:17:12,400
Oh, where's that exclusive open source? Never said it was. Not even a little bit.

3280
04:17:13,280 --> 04:17:17,680
Didn't even sort of say that. I do indeed like both hot dogs and hamburgers.

3281
04:17:19,200 --> 04:17:22,560
Insulin. Insulin was pretty sick. That was a pretty good argument.

3282
04:17:22,560 --> 04:17:26,080
That was us, wasn't it? Yeah, Canadian innovation. Let's go. You're welcome.

3283
04:17:26,080 --> 04:17:30,400
Base, base, base, base. Did he sell it for a dollar?

3284
04:17:30,400 --> 04:17:33,200
Something like that, yeah. Base. Absolutely base. Base.

3285
04:17:33,920 --> 04:17:38,080
And yet somehow it still costs a lot of money in some places, ridiculous.

3286
04:17:38,080 --> 04:17:41,760
Yeah. In spite of our industrial medicine.

3287
04:17:42,560 --> 04:17:50,240
Okay, carry on, Dan. Hey, big L. Remember when the internet tried spotting your face in computer case reflections back

3288
04:17:50,240 --> 04:17:53,360
when slick PC kept things secret?

3289
04:17:53,360 --> 04:17:56,640
Was it all fun or did it ever feel like stocking or doxing?

3290
04:17:57,440 --> 04:18:01,120
It's kind of hard to even remember about that. I thought it was pretty fun. I think I thought it was fun.

3291
04:18:01,120 --> 04:18:03,600
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we both thought it was pretty fun. I think so.

3292
04:18:04,240 --> 04:18:08,960
It's genuinely been, I was talking about this the other day, it's been almost half my life.

3293
04:18:10,160 --> 04:18:17,760
Because the whole thing was stupid and didn't matter. Like the only reason for the secrecy was because the original NCIX cameraman didn't

3294
04:18:17,760 --> 04:18:22,160
and still doesn't want his name out there.

3295
04:18:22,800 --> 04:18:28,000
And so it started with calling him the cameraman because he didn't want his name used.

3296
04:18:28,000 --> 04:18:31,840
And then I was like, well, this has become kind of a shtick for the channel. So now it's just a thing.

3297
04:18:31,840 --> 04:18:36,320
So you need a nickname because it's Linus and nickname person who's off camera.

3298
04:18:36,880 --> 04:18:43,200
And then, but it didn't, it never mattered. It wasn't like Luke asking, it wasn't like the cameraman or Luke cared.

3299
04:18:43,200 --> 04:18:49,120
So it was just for the memes. I also didn't care that I was being hidden either.

3300
04:18:49,920 --> 04:18:55,600
Like I just didn't care. It got kind of dumb eventually, but eventually then we changed it.

3301
04:18:55,600 --> 04:19:02,320
Yeah. And then it was fine. It just didn't really matter that much in either direction until it got dumb.

3302
04:19:02,880 --> 04:19:03,920
Hey, thanks for your purchase.

3303
04:19:06,000 --> 04:19:13,280
Hi, DLM. Hi, DLM. In retrospect, do you have components of Flowplain Labs or other development projects?

3304
04:19:13,280 --> 04:19:18,400
You wish you had gone with a commercial product rather than developing on your own.

3305
04:19:18,400 --> 04:19:24,480
Thanks for the merch. I can point at a bunch of stuff on Flowplain and be like, yeah,

3306
04:19:24,480 --> 04:19:33,360
but one of the problems was a lot of them didn't exist at the time. Or they might have existed, but their continued existence was very questionable

3307
04:19:33,360 --> 04:19:37,200
to the point where we even picked something that we went with that

3308
04:19:39,920 --> 04:19:43,360
still technically exists, but like not really and we're somewhat locked into it.

3309
04:19:43,360 --> 04:19:47,440
Or the existence seemed solid, but it was very expensive.

3310
04:19:47,440 --> 04:19:50,960
Or that. Like there was always a reason for doing things the way that we did.

3311
04:19:51,520 --> 04:19:55,520
Yeah. It didn't stay reasonable always.

3312
04:19:56,320 --> 04:20:00,560
And there's some stuff that we will still probably pivot off eventually.

3313
04:20:00,560 --> 04:20:05,040
There's some stuff that we already have. And that'll keep changing over time.

3314
04:20:05,040 --> 04:20:10,800
But like, I think the initial decisions made along the path were very reasonable

3315
04:20:10,800 --> 04:20:14,160
considering the knowledge we had at the time. I understand that's not the question that you're asking.

3316
04:20:15,040 --> 04:20:18,960
You're saying in retrospect, but yeah, at the time the decisions were made,

3317
04:20:18,960 --> 04:20:21,520
there was usually not an option that made more sense.

3318
04:20:23,040 --> 04:20:26,640
If we could have snapped our fingers and known that certain systems were going to remain

3319
04:20:26,640 --> 04:20:31,280
or that certain systems would have had very effective price decreases or whatever,

3320
04:20:31,280 --> 04:20:37,040
there's a couple of changes. It would be pretty sick to actually, I mean, it's been pretty good for a while now.

3321
04:20:37,840 --> 04:20:40,800
But we went through a lot of trials and tribulations with transcoding.

3322
04:20:42,640 --> 04:20:47,040
Our current system is pretty dope transcoding all the backlogs for the

3323
04:20:48,880 --> 04:20:55,360
sauce plus stuff while also transcoding like Jeff Gehrling's backlog upload

3324
04:20:55,360 --> 04:21:03,200
all at kind of like the same time. And no one noticed that it was like really fast and very parallelized was sick.

3325
04:21:03,200 --> 04:21:06,880
It was very cool to like do that sort of on our own.

3326
04:21:06,880 --> 04:21:12,560
We talked about this, I think last week, but we have auto-generated AI-generated

3327
04:21:13,120 --> 04:21:18,560
closed captions on automatic ones on Floatplane now.

3328
04:21:18,560 --> 04:21:22,080
We're doing the compute on that. That is whisper. Sorry, yes.

3329
04:21:22,640 --> 04:21:26,000
Yeah, but we're not, we are doing the, it's running like on our stuff.

3330
04:21:26,000 --> 04:21:31,440
Yeah. And like, that's cool. Yes. I like, I like to, it's, yeah.

3331
04:21:31,440 --> 04:21:38,960
Anyways, so yeah, I don't know. For the lab, what exactly was the question?

3332
04:21:38,960 --> 04:21:42,000
Was there something? Well, you weren't involved in a lot of the early decisions.

3333
04:21:42,000 --> 04:21:46,480
Yeah, so I wouldn't. So I'm sure he'd do it differently, but that doesn't necessarily mean that

3334
04:21:48,240 --> 04:21:52,480
Luke sort of made a mistake or whatever, or even that it was a mistake.

3335
04:21:52,480 --> 04:21:56,000
It's just everyone has a different philosophy. Yeah. All right, Dan, hit me.

3336
04:21:58,000 --> 04:22:02,160
Hi, LLD. I got to go to IBM's future of tape event.

3337
04:22:02,160 --> 04:22:05,760
And future of tape. Wow. Wow.

3338
04:22:05,760 --> 04:22:07,920
And see their development. Future of eight track.

3339
04:22:09,040 --> 04:22:12,320
But no tape is. We're doing nine. The tape is legit. I know.

3340
04:22:12,880 --> 04:22:19,200
Don't make fun of tape, man. And see their development lab for physical and virtual tape.

3341
04:22:19,200 --> 04:22:23,760
Virtual tape. Hard drives. Insanely cool. Oh, it's virtual tape.

3342
04:22:23,760 --> 04:22:27,520
Would enterprise tape be interesting enough for an LLD video?

3343
04:22:27,520 --> 04:22:31,360
I have a guy. We've done some videos on tape.

3344
04:22:31,360 --> 04:22:34,800
I don't know what more there would be to say other than, yep,

3345
04:22:34,800 --> 04:22:41,840
here's the new generation tape. And it's more denser.

3346
04:22:41,840 --> 04:22:46,240
So we did, we did this a number. Oh my God, that was seven years ago.

3347
04:22:46,240 --> 04:22:49,600
We got a $5,500 tape drive and.

3348
04:22:51,520 --> 04:22:55,200
You look so baby. I know, right? And this is it.

3349
04:22:55,200 --> 04:22:59,840
It's Thunderbolt. Go figure. And I think we still have it somewhere.

3350
04:23:02,320 --> 04:23:08,080
I don't know that it's changed enough that I would have anything new to say about it

3351
04:23:08,080 --> 04:23:14,320
in the last seven years. It's faster and more denser. But if I'm missing something here, please let me know.

3352
04:23:14,320 --> 04:23:16,640
Okay. Virtual tape is interesting, actually.

3353
04:23:17,440 --> 04:23:21,040
Oh, I'm sure. IBM TS7700 virtual tape library.

3354
04:23:21,120 --> 04:23:24,080
4.2 petabytes for high performance workloads.

3355
04:23:24,960 --> 04:23:32,560
Looks like that, which is sick. The new IBM TS7780 virtual tape library, the latest in the generation,

3356
04:23:32,560 --> 04:23:36,320
operates at disc or SSD speeds while maintaining,

3357
04:23:36,320 --> 04:23:40,240
and this is the part what made it make sense, compatibility with existing tape operations.

3358
04:23:41,360 --> 04:23:46,720
Okay. So it's just not tape. But it like acts like it.

3359
04:23:46,720 --> 04:23:52,480
So if you have systems that are expecting tape type operations, it will work.

3360
04:23:53,760 --> 04:24:01,200
Okay. 46 petabytes of capacity delivered in an easy to use, easy to service,

3361
04:24:01,200 --> 04:24:04,240
IBM Diamondback tape library. That thing.

3362
04:24:05,360 --> 04:24:08,480
No, no, that's the tape one. Huh?

3363
04:24:08,480 --> 04:24:11,120
Is that not what this is talking about? That's the actual tape.

3364
04:24:11,680 --> 04:24:14,960
As well as IBM storage deep archive. Ah, okay.

3365
04:24:14,960 --> 04:24:18,160
Yeah. Uh, all right. Yeah.

3366
04:24:18,880 --> 04:24:21,920
Neat. Cool. I've never once used tape stuff.

3367
04:24:21,920 --> 04:24:26,480
I've always thought it's very fascinating. It's very cool. Yeah. And I've said everything I have to say about it, I think.

3368
04:24:26,480 --> 04:24:30,480
Nice. At some point, I wonder if we should just wipe the channel and start over.

3369
04:24:33,520 --> 04:24:38,960
No, why not? But I think you should effectively do that in regards to video creation.

3370
04:24:40,000 --> 04:24:44,240
Like just remake videos. I don't think there's a reason to delete your evergreen.

3371
04:24:45,520 --> 04:24:49,600
But I do think it is sometimes ridiculous to be like,

3372
04:24:49,600 --> 04:24:55,680
we can't make a video on that. We've made it before nine years ago as if like that really matters.

3373
04:24:56,400 --> 04:25:04,080
I don't, I don't think that makes sense. My, and I do think we should recreate videos if they're beyond like a certain time threshold

3374
04:25:04,080 --> 04:25:07,520
because it's all about the notification and stuff.

3375
04:25:07,520 --> 04:25:12,480
Right. Like for, for a lot of people, they're not going to search up a lot of these things.

3376
04:25:12,480 --> 04:25:18,080
They're looking for you to tell them. And if you don't release a video on it now, you have not told them.

3377
04:25:19,200 --> 04:25:21,200
I think it's totally reasonable. I'll think about it.

3378
04:25:22,480 --> 04:25:25,760
Hit me, Dan. L and L.

3379
04:25:26,400 --> 04:25:32,320
All the Steam news resurfaced the old WAN Show episode with the legendary Total Biscuit as

3380
04:25:32,320 --> 04:25:36,080
guest headline topic was OG Steam Controller.

3381
04:25:36,080 --> 04:25:39,360
That Brit is still missed. What was it like having him on? That was fun.

3382
04:25:40,000 --> 04:25:45,120
Yeah. I, I didn't really know him before that and we didn't really interact much after that.

3383
04:25:45,120 --> 04:25:49,040
And that's no longer an option, unfortunately.

3384
04:25:51,920 --> 04:25:56,880
But yeah, he was definitely, definitely, I'd say one of our more outstanding guests.

3385
04:25:57,440 --> 04:26:01,840
What was it like having him? Oh, it's sorry. I just like said on to out.

3386
04:26:01,840 --> 04:26:10,960
And I was like, he didn't come up here. My bad. Also, we're, um, it looks like 25 videos away from 7,000.

3387
04:26:10,960 --> 04:26:14,400
That's dumb. That's a good time to quit, I think. It's big.

3388
04:26:14,400 --> 04:26:20,240
No, that's too many. It's becoming a funky thing where Dan's trying to figure out, uh, API calls and analytics.

3389
04:26:20,240 --> 04:26:24,080
And we want to like call analytics from all our videos.

3390
04:26:24,640 --> 04:26:30,400
That's a lot of API calls. So we're like smashing into the quota cap and we're talking to YouTube.

3391
04:26:30,640 --> 04:26:36,640
Like, we have across our channels, 13,216 videos today.

3392
04:26:36,640 --> 04:26:39,680
Just pull analytics on that all the time. It's too many time to quit.

3393
04:26:39,680 --> 04:26:42,720
I, I pull every two hours.

3394
04:26:42,720 --> 04:26:46,400
So that's 160,000 API calls a day.

3395
04:26:46,400 --> 04:26:53,040
It's a little. Am I allowed to quit once I get to over 9,000 on the LTT channel?

3396
04:26:53,040 --> 04:26:57,280
I saw 9,001 delete channel. Then is my, is my power level high enough?

3397
04:27:00,880 --> 04:27:04,480
I feel like you can take a sabbatical. I could take a sabbatical.

3398
04:27:04,480 --> 04:27:07,280
I've earned that at that point. Okay. I'll keep that in mind.

3399
04:27:11,600 --> 04:27:17,840
Hi, LGS, LL and DB. How important is digital hygiene for you?

3400
04:27:17,840 --> 04:27:22,880
Starting with deleting old items from download folders and continuing with removing unnecessary

3401
04:27:22,880 --> 04:27:25,520
test policies as IT admins.

3402
04:27:26,080 --> 04:27:33,280
If it's something I use frequently, very important to me, like my desktop is clean.

3403
04:27:34,480 --> 04:27:38,400
I think, hold on, let me check. You probably just don't show it, right?

3404
04:27:38,400 --> 04:27:42,480
Desktop hide. No, you do show it.

3405
04:27:42,480 --> 04:27:45,840
Oh, no, it's nasty. It's not clean. Okay. That's not nasty.

3406
04:27:45,840 --> 04:27:51,120
I've seen a lot worse. Yeah. I have, look at that. I have like icons there and they're not even like.

3407
04:27:51,120 --> 04:27:53,520
It is less than what I would have expected from you.

3408
04:27:54,480 --> 04:28:01,520
You know what? I haven't been using this laptop for that long. My desktop at home though, like my desktop is immaculate.

3409
04:28:03,040 --> 04:28:07,600
And like, I don't care about my downloads folder because sometimes it can be convenient

3410
04:28:07,600 --> 04:28:10,960
to grab something that I downloaded before. Also don't care about my downloads folder.

3411
04:28:10,960 --> 04:28:14,160
But it's like one of the only spots. My media folders.

3412
04:28:14,160 --> 04:28:17,680
Very clean. Adhere to standard naming conventions.

3413
04:28:17,680 --> 04:28:21,440
I use file bot, I think is what it's called to like make sure that it's all right and stuff.

3414
04:28:23,760 --> 04:28:26,880
So yeah, it just depends. It depends how often I use it.

3415
04:28:26,880 --> 04:28:33,280
If I don't use it very often, like, oh my God, like I still had my UB key active as a 2FA,

3416
04:28:33,280 --> 04:28:37,600
even though I hadn't used it in like nine years or something like that,

3417
04:28:37,600 --> 04:28:43,840
until Vance finally removed it like two weeks ago, after I was like talking about how ridiculous it was on land show.

3418
04:28:43,840 --> 04:28:46,640
UB key bio is really cool. Someone like that to me.

3419
04:28:47,360 --> 04:28:50,240
UB key bio? Yeah. You want to look at it?

3420
04:28:54,080 --> 04:28:56,880
I didn't know they did this. I think it's pretty sick. Oh, it's expensive.

3421
04:28:58,400 --> 04:29:00,720
It's cool though. Sure is. Jeez.

3422
04:29:01,520 --> 04:29:03,680
It's like 130 bucks each.

3423
04:29:04,560 --> 04:29:07,760
Yep. Well, whatever. Sure. Fine.

3424
04:29:09,440 --> 04:29:12,720
But yeah, bio authenticated. Cool. Pretty sick.

3425
04:29:13,840 --> 04:29:17,680
Makes sense. Not surprised they went that route. Yeah. Kind of makes more sense than the other one.

3426
04:29:18,320 --> 04:29:21,760
Yeah. Here's the thing I have and I'm me.

3427
04:29:21,760 --> 04:29:25,040
Boom. Yeah, I like that. All right. What's up?

3428
04:29:26,320 --> 04:29:29,840
Linus last week you said no is lame.

3429
04:29:30,960 --> 04:29:35,120
Yes and but is gulag. What's the best no you've given out?

3430
04:29:36,800 --> 04:29:37,600
I don't know.

3431
04:29:40,800 --> 04:29:43,680
I would have said Christmas album, but I finally caved last week.

3432
04:29:44,400 --> 04:29:47,440
No, you caved to a new Christmas album.

3433
04:29:48,000 --> 04:29:51,440
You still said no to the old Christmas album. Oh, yeah. That's true. No, no, it didn't.

3434
04:29:51,440 --> 04:29:57,920
So it doesn't count. No, it didn't. He said yes and only if Riley does a cooler one

3435
04:29:57,920 --> 04:30:01,040
and only if that one is only a digital download. Yeah.

3436
04:30:01,040 --> 04:30:04,160
Okay. So yeah, I tried to find a way eventually. Yeah.

3437
04:30:04,160 --> 04:30:10,400
Because what have I said no about? I mean, what am I in no one?

3438
04:30:14,960 --> 04:30:17,920
Oh, yeah, you yes, ended me on that one, but I didn't like it.

3439
04:30:18,720 --> 04:30:23,600
I want to make a Labs channel, but I have been told no,

3440
04:30:23,600 --> 04:30:27,920
because I need a content schedule for it, and I'm currently refusing to do that.

3441
04:30:28,880 --> 04:30:31,600
Okay. I think those are both reasonable things.

3442
04:30:32,720 --> 04:30:37,440
I actually didn't say no. I actually don't know if a content schedule for the Labs channel is reasonable.

3443
04:30:37,440 --> 04:30:38,480
I don't know if it makes sense.

3444
04:30:41,200 --> 04:30:43,360
I understand that makes it difficult to sell for.

3445
04:30:44,320 --> 04:30:48,000
I totally understand. And if we don't sell for it, it will not make money.

3446
04:30:48,160 --> 04:30:51,360
My thing is right now,

3447
04:30:51,360 --> 04:30:55,040
we're just making articles, which are awesome, but we could just turn the articles into videos.

3448
04:30:55,040 --> 04:30:58,800
And no, they're not. Not every article is like LTT quality,

3449
04:30:58,800 --> 04:31:02,560
which is fine and never been the goal. And to be clear, we're not saying it's not quality.

3450
04:31:02,560 --> 04:31:06,640
I mean, depth is more. Or clickability or whatever.

3451
04:31:06,640 --> 04:31:10,240
However you want to call it. Just I thought quality was not the right word. I think they're really good quality.

3452
04:31:10,240 --> 04:31:13,280
No, totally. Okay. Quality is incorrect word,

3453
04:31:13,280 --> 04:31:18,160
but we're not going to get a million views on the 40 watt dynamic power adapter

3454
04:31:18,160 --> 04:31:20,240
and iPhone 17 charging article.

3455
04:31:21,440 --> 04:31:25,120
I think it's sick though. And I actually think a lot more people should know about it

3456
04:31:25,120 --> 04:31:29,840
because it's a cool, it's a cool, it's very cool article. The conclusion taught me things.

3457
04:31:29,840 --> 04:31:32,640
I liked it. I don't think I'm actually the one who said no anyway.

3458
04:31:33,680 --> 04:31:37,200
Or yes, and You might be right.

3459
04:31:37,840 --> 04:31:38,960
I think, I think I

3460
04:31:41,600 --> 04:31:47,600
I think I So if you're trying to do an end around right now, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not getting involved.

3461
04:31:47,600 --> 04:31:48,880
No, no, no, I'm not. Okay.

3462
04:31:50,720 --> 04:31:54,400
Linestown. It's been a while since I asked. I think I have asked. Linestown.

3463
04:31:54,400 --> 04:31:59,040
I'm not saying no, I'm saying it's stupid. Okay, so what's the end?

3464
04:31:59,040 --> 04:32:02,400
The end is I don't have the f***ing money for it yet.

3465
04:32:02,400 --> 04:32:06,640
I don't actually have unlimited money. This may surprise you. Sounds like we're going to get there.

3466
04:32:06,640 --> 04:32:10,240
Given the way that I behave. Loans are a thing. Buying fire trucks.

3467
04:32:10,880 --> 04:32:17,360
Like how many kidneys do you have? You have children. We just got to get you to that beyond 9,000 videos

3468
04:32:18,480 --> 04:32:22,160
and we'll get there. I mean, I wouldn't even want to live in the town.

3469
04:32:22,160 --> 04:32:24,320
That's the real problem. I don't think it's necessary.

3470
04:32:25,280 --> 04:32:29,120
That's stupid. Nope. How can I run a cult if I'm not actually there?

3471
04:32:29,120 --> 04:32:32,480
You just need a really, really, really tall tower outside of the town.

3472
04:32:32,480 --> 04:32:35,520
How does Gaben run steam? From a yacht.

3473
04:32:35,520 --> 04:32:38,880
Valve. Sorry. From a yacht. He gets it.

3474
04:32:38,880 --> 04:32:42,800
See? Yeah, there's the yes and we get him a yacht. Yeah, but why are we not doing it?

3475
04:32:42,800 --> 04:32:46,560
You're not giving a proper and. You're not playing by your own rules.

3476
04:32:46,560 --> 04:32:50,320
Well, we just discovered that he would do it if there was a yacht, so now we have the and.

3477
04:32:50,320 --> 04:32:59,120
Let's move on. Okay, cultists. If you will be responsible for raising the money to purchase the town

3478
04:32:59,120 --> 04:33:01,840
and I will do nothing but reap benefits from it,

3479
04:33:02,480 --> 04:33:06,320
then yes, Linus Town approved. Now he's thinking like a cult leader.

3480
04:33:06,320 --> 04:33:08,400
I like this good job.

3481
04:33:09,520 --> 04:33:11,920
Okay, we're up next. Before we move to Taiwan.

3482
04:33:13,680 --> 04:33:17,920
Ah, that wasn't no. That was I don't want to and therefore no.

3483
04:33:19,520 --> 04:33:23,920
That sounds like a pretty cool no, though. Abroot your entire life.

3484
04:33:25,920 --> 04:33:32,320
No, I know. It's a good idea, but no. I think I think I understand what you're trying to do with this whole don't say no,

3485
04:33:32,320 --> 04:33:36,000
say yes and thing, but it's also like extremely toxic at certain times.

3486
04:33:36,000 --> 04:33:40,960
I heard back from the head robot leaked the DM well earned.

3487
04:33:41,040 --> 04:33:45,200
So we've got I've got approval. That's so cool. They're so cool.

3488
04:33:45,200 --> 04:33:52,960
I know. How are they so cool? In general, you want to be an enabler who enables the people around you.

3489
04:33:52,960 --> 04:33:56,000
That's all I'm trying to get across. I know. It's not a blanket.

3490
04:33:56,000 --> 04:34:01,360
I understand your point. I understand your point. Thank you. But just like when people say everyone,

3491
04:34:03,200 --> 04:34:06,480
you jump after them because you're like not actually everyone.

3492
04:34:06,480 --> 04:34:09,920
It's the same thing. In general, you want to be an enabler.

3493
04:34:11,120 --> 04:34:12,320
Not like Megan Kelly.

3494
04:34:14,720 --> 04:34:20,560
Who's don't enable that? All right. Well, there's a fairly recent controversy.

3495
04:34:20,560 --> 04:34:24,800
I don't know who don't worry about it. Do worry about it, actually.

3496
04:34:25,440 --> 04:34:28,800
Do worry about this. Okay, Dan, hit me.

3497
04:34:28,800 --> 04:34:33,200
Sure. Hey, LD Linus or slick.

3498
04:34:33,200 --> 04:34:38,000
If enough floaters that wanted a VR version of Floatplane, would you do it?

3499
04:34:38,880 --> 04:34:45,280
What would a VR version of Floatplane be? Wouldn't it just be watching videos in a browser in your VR headset?

3500
04:34:45,280 --> 04:34:50,480
I think you have it already. I mean, I played Floatplane in the Apple Vision Pro,

3501
04:34:50,480 --> 04:34:55,520
but I think what they're meaning is like 360 video where you can turn your head.

3502
04:34:57,600 --> 04:35:00,880
It's a dead meme. It is for sure a dead meme.

3503
04:35:01,600 --> 04:35:08,560
Definitely not enough people want it. Hey, we're doing what we can to give people what they do want right now.

3504
04:35:08,560 --> 04:35:10,720
Okay. We're focused on that. All right.

3505
04:35:14,160 --> 04:35:18,320
Yeah. Yeah, that's a no, actually. That's a no.

3506
04:35:18,320 --> 04:35:22,720
And here's the reasons. The reasons are that you care and no one else.

3507
04:35:22,720 --> 04:35:26,720
And I'm sorry that it has to be like that. But the question was if enough did.

3508
04:35:27,600 --> 04:35:31,680
You're not being very yes and right now, Linus. If enough did, we'd do it, of course.

3509
04:35:32,480 --> 04:35:39,440
There you go. Yeah. They definitely don't though and never will. So there's that caveat.

3510
04:35:45,200 --> 04:35:50,800
Oh, yeah, I don't. Who do you think will be in the NHL Play A Calgary Flames fan ATP2?

3511
04:35:50,800 --> 04:35:51,920
I don't know what any of that means.

3512
04:35:54,400 --> 04:35:57,760
Me neither. Is that a gambling thing? Maybe. Play A?

3513
04:35:57,760 --> 04:35:59,760
No idea. Is that a thing? Do they need playoffs?

3514
04:36:00,800 --> 04:36:04,480
No idea. Oh, okay. Well, up next.

3515
04:36:05,840 --> 04:36:10,000
Play Alberta. Play A. It sounds like it's gambling, maybe.

3516
04:36:10,800 --> 04:36:18,640
Disney, Lucasfilm, and Moomoo. Linus, did you ever see the live action How to Train Your Dragon?

3517
04:36:18,640 --> 04:36:26,560
Will you visit the theme park in Florida? I proposed to girlfriend in front of Toothless there a few weeks ago.

3518
04:36:26,560 --> 04:36:33,680
She counterproposed. I'll go to the theme park. I made it about 30% of the way through the live action How to Train Your Dragon.

3519
04:36:33,680 --> 04:36:40,480
The original animated film is perfect and the live action one is like a weird

3520
04:36:40,480 --> 04:36:42,480
Funhouse mirror reflection of perfect.

3521
04:36:44,000 --> 04:36:51,200
They did stay very true to it. And if it brings a new generation of people into, you know, thinking how to train your

3522
04:36:51,200 --> 04:36:57,280
dragon and the sort of general message behind it of seeing past our differences,

3523
04:36:57,280 --> 04:37:00,880
even though we're enemies and all of that kind of cool stuff. I think it's a really cool story.

3524
04:37:02,720 --> 04:37:10,160
You know, if it does that, then that's great. I am a fan, but I didn't personally have any use for it because the original was already

3525
04:37:10,160 --> 04:37:16,000
a perfect film. I forgot to do your award.

3526
04:37:16,000 --> 04:37:18,800
My award? Yeah. What is this exactly?

3527
04:37:19,920 --> 04:37:25,200
Received an award. I've received an award. He's talking, but he's not talking into a mic.

3528
04:37:25,200 --> 04:37:29,600
Is it another Billy Billy plaque? That's my guess.

3529
04:37:29,600 --> 04:37:32,720
I'm throwing a guess out there. That's my guess. You're throwing a guess, a Billy Billy plaque?

3530
04:37:32,720 --> 04:37:34,240
No, you already have a silver and a gold.

3531
04:37:37,120 --> 04:37:42,400
I'm getting an award. Well, I mean, Luke doesn't need to be here for this, then.

3532
04:37:47,600 --> 04:37:50,720
It's fine. It's fine. No, if you go in your camera, they might be able to see it better.

3533
04:37:50,720 --> 04:37:52,800
No, just me, man. Okay. They can see it after.

3534
04:37:54,480 --> 04:37:54,960
What is this?

3535
04:37:57,680 --> 04:38:01,760
Actually, what is it? It's a Linus Media Group.

3536
04:38:03,120 --> 04:38:04,800
What is this? What? Yeah, what?

3537
04:38:06,320 --> 04:38:12,000
Linus Media Group Brand Impact Award for, hold on.

3538
04:38:12,000 --> 04:38:18,560
What is it? For Outstanding Influence Amplifying GLI Nets Worldwide Presence.

3539
04:38:21,520 --> 04:38:24,800
Oh, no, I did know about this.

3540
04:38:24,800 --> 04:38:29,840
They invited us to an event and to present it.

3541
04:38:29,840 --> 04:38:32,880
To make cool stuff. I said, regrettably, we can't make it.

3542
04:38:32,880 --> 04:38:37,680
We did that sponsored video with them recently. I mean, to make cool stuff, I don't know.

3543
04:38:37,680 --> 04:38:43,440
Upgrading Natalie's house. Cool. I didn't know that I'd get an award for doing a sponsored video.

3544
04:38:43,440 --> 04:38:47,360
You know, they know they already paid me, right? For the sponsored video.

3545
04:38:47,360 --> 04:38:50,560
I mean, getting an award is also cool. I mean, I don't mind awards.

3546
04:38:50,560 --> 04:38:55,120
Honestly, I think you should give me an award every time you pay me. You want me to give you an award every time?

3547
04:38:55,120 --> 04:38:58,320
No, no. Every time? Wait, every time I pay you. Yeah, I'd also have to give you an award.

3548
04:39:00,160 --> 04:39:04,400
No? Wait, yes, and if you hold on, I'm thinking.

3549
04:39:11,280 --> 04:39:14,400
See, I was going to say something like if you went sort of beyond the call of duty,

3550
04:39:14,400 --> 04:39:16,160
but he really does. Yeah, get rekt. He's great.

3551
04:39:17,680 --> 04:39:22,480
How can I justify not giving him an award every time I pay him?

3552
04:39:23,680 --> 04:39:28,240
Huh. Maybe I should. I'll tell you what, here's what it'll be.

3553
04:39:28,880 --> 04:39:34,320
It'll be in the form of a monthly, no, a monthly budget on LTTstore.com

3554
04:39:34,320 --> 04:39:38,240
and occasional random LTTstore.com things. That's how we'll do it.

3555
04:39:38,240 --> 04:39:41,280
Nice. Yeah. Conveniently, we already do that, so.

3556
04:39:41,280 --> 04:39:44,400
Isn't it yearly budget? Yeah, but it could be broken up by 12.

3557
04:39:46,880 --> 04:39:51,120
Being on WAN Show, you also end up with a lot of extras. I do. I have no complaints.

3558
04:39:51,120 --> 04:39:56,000
You know, there is a company that you and I both visited recently

3559
04:39:56,560 --> 04:39:58,560
that I figured out what their merch budget is.

3560
04:39:59,680 --> 04:40:03,120
Is it good? It's definitely lower than ours. Oh, really?

3561
04:40:03,760 --> 04:40:10,000
Oh, oh, is this company, how do we not name them?

3562
04:40:10,000 --> 04:40:14,240
Yeah, and like, I don't think we would ever name this one. No, I don't think we should name them.

3563
04:40:14,240 --> 04:40:18,560
Yeah, but you know. We actually have a pretty generous merch budget.

3564
04:40:18,560 --> 04:40:23,120
I realize that. Like, we actually do try to not be a shitty place to work.

3565
04:40:23,120 --> 04:40:26,880
I told them ours while we were having that conversation, and they were like, whoa.

3566
04:40:26,880 --> 04:40:31,440
And I didn't tell them the host one, because the host one's higher. It has to be because you're going to need stuff

3567
04:40:31,440 --> 04:40:34,960
that you have when you're on camera. Like, it has to be higher.

3568
04:40:34,960 --> 04:40:37,680
It makes sense. I told them the normal one.

3569
04:40:39,600 --> 04:40:42,800
Yeah, anyways. We had this as a bit of a topic earlier.

3570
04:40:42,800 --> 04:40:46,720
Hello, LLD. With the current RAM prices rising due to AI demand,

3571
04:40:46,720 --> 04:40:51,680
do you think now is a good time to upgrade? What are the long-term effects of AI infrastructure

3572
04:40:51,680 --> 04:40:55,360
on consumer-grade hardware prices? Long-term will be OK.

3573
04:40:55,360 --> 04:40:59,120
If anything, it'll drive it down because they're going to build up massive capacity

3574
04:40:59,120 --> 04:41:02,960
and the bubble will, at the very least, deflate, probably burst.

3575
04:41:02,960 --> 04:41:08,160
And the used market traditionally has actually benefited from large infrastructure expenditure.

3576
04:41:08,160 --> 04:41:13,360
As for now being a good time to upgrade, probably, I think it's going to get worse before it gets better.

3577
04:41:13,360 --> 04:41:16,960
But that's not financial advice. Hey, Luke.

3578
04:41:16,960 --> 04:41:21,840
Sharing the love of all things NASA, have you ever seen a launch in person?

3579
04:41:21,840 --> 04:41:26,160
Ooh. I also, for a short time, got to work with NASA Huntsville

3580
04:41:26,160 --> 04:41:29,360
via a vendor-customer relationship.

3581
04:41:29,360 --> 04:41:34,320
When did you get to see a launch in person? One time. I thought you missed it, unlike a thing recently.

3582
04:41:34,320 --> 04:41:37,840
I thought this was like another sore point. There was a really cool one that I missed.

3583
04:41:37,840 --> 04:41:40,240
Oh, that's what I was thinking of. This was a really random one.

3584
04:41:41,200 --> 04:41:46,320
But when AJ and I were down there for the Threat Locker Conference.

3585
04:41:46,880 --> 04:41:52,400
Oh, so this was recent then. Yeah, we took off to go check out NASA.

3586
04:41:52,400 --> 04:41:56,240
And as we were pulling up, there was one,

3587
04:41:56,240 --> 04:42:01,600
I was like checking my news the whole time because there would only be specific times that we could go.

3588
04:42:02,480 --> 04:42:06,160
And we thought we had missed it because we thought it had gone like the night before, I think.

3589
04:42:07,040 --> 04:42:12,880
But there was some delay and it made it happen that day. And then we couldn't go right away because we were doing stuff.

3590
04:42:12,880 --> 04:42:16,000
But by the time we could go, we were like rolling up into the parking lot,

3591
04:42:16,000 --> 04:42:20,320
like when it was happening. And we ran to this like corner where we could see it.

3592
04:42:20,320 --> 04:42:26,800
So we hadn't even entered yet. Nice. And we technically walked into the employee parking lot.

3593
04:42:26,800 --> 04:42:31,760
Wow. Just confidently and got to a corner.

3594
04:42:31,760 --> 04:42:35,440
Sorry, got to a corner where we could see better. Quality NASA security, yeah.

3595
04:42:35,440 --> 04:42:39,680
And we actually got a pretty decent vantage point.

3596
04:42:39,680 --> 04:42:42,720
We ended up seeing where a lot of people would watch it

3597
04:42:42,720 --> 04:42:47,520
from the actual park thing that they have. And our spot was actually pretty solid.

3598
04:42:49,360 --> 04:42:53,120
I'm really hoping to see one of the Artemis launches eventually.

3599
04:42:54,960 --> 04:43:00,080
Starship would be really cool sometime. This was just more of a fairly small,

3600
04:43:00,080 --> 04:43:05,520
somewhat routine thing that just happened to be going off the day. The amount of rockets they're launching like all the time now

3601
04:43:05,520 --> 04:43:09,440
is pretty wild. So yeah.

3602
04:43:10,480 --> 04:43:15,040
But then we promptly exited the, I believe employee only parking area

3603
04:43:15,040 --> 04:43:17,760
and entered the park properly and then had a good time.

3604
04:43:18,720 --> 04:43:23,200
That's great. Hi, LLD. Never knew I needed a hackable,

3605
04:43:23,200 --> 04:43:26,480
arch-based VR headset until Valve announced one.

3606
04:43:26,480 --> 04:43:29,680
Any cool ideas considering you could almost certainly do anything with it?

3607
04:43:29,680 --> 04:43:34,080
Also, did it have a desktop mode? I don't believe anything would prevent you

3608
04:43:34,080 --> 04:43:36,880
from running desktop mode on it on a giant screen.

3609
04:43:37,920 --> 04:43:39,440
For me, I think the biggest,

3610
04:43:41,440 --> 04:43:44,640
the biggest use case this unlocks for me for VR

3611
04:43:44,640 --> 04:43:51,280
is travel with my laptop. I am like stoked to play full-fat PC VR games

3612
04:43:51,280 --> 04:43:57,760
with a laptop with like an eGPU and my VR headset that all packs into like my commuter bag.

3613
04:43:57,760 --> 04:44:03,600
That's crazy. Absolutely wild. I really enjoy the idea of this thing being portable.

3614
04:44:03,600 --> 04:44:07,520
That's, yeah. I'm for sure getting one basically.

3615
04:44:08,240 --> 04:44:12,960
Kind of depends on price, I guess. And we both know the quest lineup exists,

3616
04:44:12,960 --> 04:44:18,720
but I don't think either of us has ever felt particularly compelled to go meta for our VR needs.

3617
04:44:18,720 --> 04:44:21,760
I have been fairly strongly turned off from that.

3618
04:44:24,320 --> 04:44:27,760
Yeah. What was the product your own or third party

3619
04:44:27,760 --> 04:44:30,640
that you knew about early that you found the hardest to keep secret?

3620
04:44:32,560 --> 04:44:36,080
Oh, oh man, there's, oh man.

3621
04:44:43,680 --> 04:44:45,920
The hardest to keep secret?

3622
04:44:49,360 --> 04:44:52,880
I don't actually find out about third party stuff that early.

3623
04:44:54,800 --> 04:44:58,240
And I don't keep secrets very well for our own developments.

3624
04:45:00,160 --> 04:45:03,360
I think that's part of the marketing strategy at this point.

3625
04:45:05,040 --> 04:45:12,640
Probably the one that I struggled the most on was our battery bank, which we have alluded to,

3626
04:45:12,640 --> 04:45:18,080
but not really talked about much yet, but it's been in development for I think over two years now.

3627
04:45:18,080 --> 04:45:21,120
And for a long time, I really didn't talk about it

3628
04:45:21,120 --> 04:45:25,680
because the product itself was not particularly well defined.

3629
04:45:25,680 --> 04:45:29,760
Like we had an idea of what we wanted to try to achieve

3630
04:45:29,760 --> 04:45:32,880
and we've achieved a lot of that, but not all of it.

3631
04:45:32,880 --> 04:45:38,480
And so we wanted to make sure that we weren't setting people's expectations too high.

3632
04:45:38,480 --> 04:45:42,480
It's getting pretty close to the point where I can start talking about it in more detail,

3633
04:45:42,480 --> 04:45:46,080
but yeah, I'd say holding back a ton of that has been really challenging.

3634
04:45:47,840 --> 04:45:49,120
Yes, we're getting triple C.

3635
04:45:52,320 --> 04:45:58,400
You mentioned on last WAN Show that Google killed the nest and a project was started.

3636
04:45:58,480 --> 04:46:02,480
I created it and open sourced it. Appreciate the shout-out.

3637
04:46:02,480 --> 04:46:05,120
Also, Google was still sending logs from those devices.

3638
04:46:06,560 --> 04:46:11,840
Shout-out Kody Kay. Absolutely sick, assuming you are actually the person who did it

3639
04:46:11,840 --> 04:46:17,600
and you're not just taking credit, but probably you're honest, but super cool.

3640
04:46:17,600 --> 04:46:20,320
And yeah, why does that not surprise me at all?

3641
04:46:24,320 --> 04:46:27,520
Yeah, shocked, I say. Well, actually not that shocked.

3642
04:46:28,000 --> 04:46:31,680
It's just, you shut off my functionality,

3643
04:46:31,680 --> 04:46:33,840
but yeah, still want my data. Really?

3644
04:46:36,160 --> 04:46:39,680
That's so cool if this person is the person who did that. That's so sick.

3645
04:46:40,560 --> 04:46:42,720
Enjoy your RGB sweater. Yeah, hell yeah.

3646
04:46:44,800 --> 04:46:50,000
For both hosts, for your main gaming rig, are you Team Red or Team Blue for Proc and Wine?

3647
04:46:50,560 --> 04:46:52,160
Red. Yeah, obviously.

3648
04:46:55,280 --> 04:46:57,520
And Red for a while. Yep.

3649
04:46:58,960 --> 04:47:02,960
Better Red than Dead. Better Dead than Red?

3650
04:47:02,960 --> 04:47:05,520
I don't know. It's rough over there right now, man.

3651
04:47:06,240 --> 04:47:10,800
I hope they figure it out. I hope so too. A strong Intel is good for the industry.

3652
04:47:11,600 --> 04:47:14,160
Yeah. Last one I got for you tonight.

3653
04:47:14,880 --> 04:47:19,600
Sup, LLD? I love your zipper hoodies, so I'd never pass up the Red WAN hoodie.

3654
04:47:19,600 --> 04:47:24,160
Sick. But I was a big fan of orange. Hope to see that again one day.

3655
04:47:24,160 --> 04:47:27,280
Also, what happened to the pajama pants? They were great.

3656
04:47:27,280 --> 04:47:31,040
They didn't sell that well. I love them too. I love my LTT pajama pants.

3657
04:47:31,040 --> 04:47:32,720
I only got one pair and I wish I had more.

3658
04:47:34,320 --> 04:47:38,880
I don't know that we'll do an orange. The Red is selling really well.

3659
04:47:38,880 --> 04:47:43,280
And after many long, sometimes surprisingly,

3660
04:47:43,280 --> 04:47:46,320
intense conversations. We have passionate people here.

3661
04:47:46,320 --> 04:47:51,120
And they can be passionate about everything. Design, color, fit materials.

3662
04:47:52,000 --> 04:47:57,920
The reason our products are good is because people care. But when people care, you can have strong opinions

3663
04:47:57,920 --> 04:48:01,120
and you can have clashes. And it's not like we have the kind of culture

3664
04:48:01,120 --> 04:48:04,320
where people would yell at each other or be mean to each other or whatever.

3665
04:48:04,320 --> 04:48:09,360
But I've had some very opinionated conversations

3666
04:48:09,360 --> 04:48:12,160
with particularly Bridget, who's head of fashion.

3667
04:48:12,800 --> 04:48:18,480
And she felt very strongly that having some red

3668
04:48:18,480 --> 04:48:26,320
and some orange WAN products was really confusing. And so we debated whether we should even be able

3669
04:48:26,320 --> 04:48:29,920
to launch a red WAN hoodie when we still have

3670
04:48:29,920 --> 04:48:36,560
an orange WAN backpack, for instance. And she made very good points about how that kind of

3671
04:48:36,560 --> 04:48:39,680
confuses what WAN branding means.

3672
04:48:39,680 --> 04:48:45,280
And I made very good points about how, oh my god, we can't hope to sell out all of the desk pads

3673
04:48:45,280 --> 04:48:47,760
and all of the backpacks and all of the everything

3674
04:48:48,400 --> 04:48:52,080
before we can launch one product. We want to get it out there and find out

3675
04:48:52,080 --> 04:48:56,160
if people are going to even receive this red thing at all

3676
04:48:56,160 --> 04:49:00,160
or if we're going to have to go back to orange anyway and then we wiped out all of inventory for nothing

3677
04:49:00,160 --> 04:49:02,400
and then made a big bet on red everything for nothing.

3678
04:49:03,360 --> 04:49:05,680
So everyone had really good points.

3679
04:49:06,400 --> 04:49:09,520
And what we settled on was okay.

3680
04:49:11,600 --> 04:49:15,520
I agree with you that it needs to not be confusing. You're 100% right.

3681
04:49:16,080 --> 04:49:20,560
But the business needs us to test this before we can commit full hog.

3682
04:49:21,440 --> 04:49:25,440
And I think at this point, she's one that red works

3683
04:49:26,000 --> 04:49:31,120
and it's time to go full hog. And once we do that, then I think she's right

3684
04:49:31,120 --> 04:49:35,120
that WAN can't just be random colors. It has to mean something.

3685
04:49:35,120 --> 04:49:39,040
And now I think it's going to mean red and gray and black.

3686
04:49:40,640 --> 04:49:42,960
What? Chat has a very interesting point.

3687
04:49:43,840 --> 04:49:49,040
A lot of people in chat have a very interesting point. Does WAN have an after dark sub brand?

3688
04:49:50,560 --> 04:49:54,800
No, I think our monochrome brand is still stealth. We haven't used it much lately.

3689
04:49:54,800 --> 04:49:58,880
Oh, interesting. I could be open to that.

3690
04:49:59,680 --> 04:50:05,520
It's a genuinely really interesting idea. The after dark hoodie, I could get behind that.

3691
04:50:06,480 --> 04:50:11,200
It's just interesting that we can throw purple into the brand mix very logically.

3692
04:50:11,200 --> 04:50:18,000
ShortCircuit has it too. ShortCircuit is predominantly purple, isn't it?

3693
04:50:18,000 --> 04:50:21,920
It's a mix, right? Yeah, it's got a variety of ShortCircuit.

3694
04:50:26,880 --> 04:50:28,720
I like that Dan just said ShortCircuit.

3695
04:50:30,160 --> 04:50:34,960
Nothing else. I mean, they're purple. They are so their main color is purple.

3696
04:50:34,960 --> 04:50:37,600
They're like a bunch of stuff, though. Mm-hmm.

3697
04:50:40,480 --> 04:50:45,200
Orange, pink, purple, white, yellow, dark blue, yellow.

3698
04:50:46,000 --> 04:50:47,120
All right, after dark hoodie.

3699
04:50:52,320 --> 04:50:54,560
I feel like an after dark hoodie might actually be really sick.

3700
04:50:56,720 --> 04:50:57,280
Just saying.

3701
04:50:59,760 --> 04:51:04,240
After dark pants too? Aslis chaps.

3702
04:51:07,840 --> 04:51:10,640
What pants do we have right now that could be after dark?

3703
04:51:14,640 --> 04:51:23,120
All right. Scheduled for Monday morning. And excuse me, sorry, with that, I think it's time to say good night

3704
04:51:23,120 --> 04:51:26,560
and have a wonderful weekend. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.

3705
04:51:27,120 --> 04:51:29,360
Almost five hours. Bye. That's crazy.

3706
04:51:31,200 --> 04:51:35,920
That was not.