WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.960 Imagine this, you're at the store, and there it is. 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:08.360 The biggest TV you've ever seen. You need to have it. 00:00:08.360 --> 00:00:13.360 Okay, that's fine. 00:00:14.120 --> 00:00:17.560 You'd rather go home and talk to your wife and kids anyway, 00:00:17.560 --> 00:00:24.480 but then you notice the open box section. Woo, is that nearly a hundred inches of TV goodness 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:28.600 for just 1500 bucks? Take my money. 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:35.200 But on the way home, you start to wonder, what sacrifices had to be made to get a TV this big, 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:40.680 this cheap? I mean, surely it can't be 4K with support for HDR. 00:00:40.680 --> 00:00:45.680 Oh, well, there's no way it supports high refresh rate. 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:51.800 Oh, okay, does that too? I mean, but there's no way that it has a segway to, 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:59.320 to our sponsor, really? If, like us, you find an open box TCL98S550GH, 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:02.480 the first complication is going to be getting it home. 00:01:02.480 --> 00:01:05.960 This particular open box model wasn't available for delivery, 00:01:05.960 --> 00:01:07.800 so we had to pick it up ourselves. 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:14.120 And TVs this big? They're heavy. But hey, we got it here. 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:17.900 Time to unbox it. Now, Adam and I are seasoned pros 00:01:17.900 --> 00:01:21.800 at unboxing giant TVs now, so I'm sure this is gonna go very smoothly. 00:01:21.800 --> 00:01:27.240 Were you really cutting toward my face? Seasoned pros, we don't have to worry about safety. 00:01:27.240 --> 00:01:31.440 We're so good at it. Hey, this one comes with legs. 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:35.200 He mentions that because the 115-inch one that I bought didn't. 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:39.160 Okay, we managed to open it backwards, unfortunately. 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:45.360 Ah, okay. All right, I guess we're looking at the IO first. 00:01:45.360 --> 00:01:50.840 Here's something that's a little confusing to me, though. What is it about a 100-inch TV 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:58.720 that allows it to be packaged relatively normally, but the 115-inch TV, which is only this much bigger, 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:02.880 had to come in a crate. I guess part of it is that the other one was thick. 00:02:02.880 --> 00:02:07.920 She's a dronky boy. Yeah, this is like half of the weight, I think, of your TV, 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:12.560 but it looks very similar in terms of the ID. 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:16.720 Yeah, it even has the square pattern and then also ultra-base. 00:02:16.720 --> 00:02:19.440 Your TV can also work as a project mat. 00:02:20.440 --> 00:02:24.040 Like, are these one centimeter by one centimeter? It kind of looks like it. They're closed. 00:02:24.040 --> 00:02:28.080 You could cut fabric patterns. I need to know now. 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:35.000 For the IO, we got four HDMI ports. The top one is 4K 144 hertz, 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:40.000 which is weird because didn't the front of the box say 120? Useless, useless. 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.800 The squares are exactly one centimeter by one centimeter, 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:49.240 but then the gaps in between. Just throw the whole thing out of whack. 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:55.320 Well, I'm glad you figured out that mystery. Yeah, so we're not really sure what the deal is with that. 00:02:55.320 --> 00:02:58.800 The input's 144 hertz, but the panel says native 120. 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:02.520 Maybe it's overclockable. I guess we'll find out. As for the rest of it, it's pretty usual, 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:06.800 but it's weird to see a composite input on a modern TV still, so that's nice. 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:13.120 One other unusual thing that I was about to point out before I realized that the back of the TV does this 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:17.200 was the Vesa Bolt pattern. It's 500 millimeters by 600 millimeters, 00:03:17.200 --> 00:03:21.480 so it's not square. And because this thing is heavy, what I would strongly recommend doing 00:03:21.480 --> 00:03:25.440 is something similar to what you guys saw me do in the cleanest living room makeover, 00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:29.120 where I put a big piece of wood, just like a flat piece of plywood, 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:33.360 screw that into the studs, and screw the mount for the TV into that. 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.920 Since we're not doing any of that today, we need to put the feet on. 00:03:36.920 --> 00:03:41.080 How do we do that? They said refer to the manual. 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:44.520 Smart. First, get a table that's bigger than the TV. 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.200 Where the hell am I supposed to get that? 00:03:49.200 --> 00:03:54.200 Soft cushion surface. What is this, look at this hypothetical 00:03:54.200 --> 00:03:57.280 soft cushion thing that exists. 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:00.840 Who has a giant cushioned table? Where are we gonna put this? 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:07.080 Here's the thing, this video really was inspired by us just stumbling across this open box TV 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:10.920 at what seemed like an unbelievable price at the time. 00:04:10.920 --> 00:04:14.840 So it doesn't have the little protective soft covering on the screen. 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:17.960 We don't really have a way of laying it down. I have an idea. 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:22.920 Here we go. Oh, she's heavy. 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:26.520 Yeah. Damn, boy. 00:04:27.840 --> 00:04:31.320 Okay. Now I've done this trick a lot of times, 00:04:31.320 --> 00:04:35.480 where the air cushion that forms between the TV and the ground keeps it from hitting very hard. 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.960 So we can just let her, I'm kidding. You were gonna let me do it. 00:04:38.960 --> 00:04:41.960 I wanted to see what would happen. You were gonna let me do it. It would have been cool. 00:04:41.960 --> 00:04:43.760 Why would you do that? Content. 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.600 All right. That's not so bad. 00:04:53.520 --> 00:04:55.960 I'm on. Oh my gosh. 00:04:58.840 --> 00:05:03.160 It fits. What was the TV, but what's the size of this? 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:05.800 Is that a 65? I think that's a 65 inch behind it. 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.400 That was a 65 inch TV. 00:05:10.880 --> 00:05:15.520 It's gone. Sitting on a pretty normal height couch. 00:05:15.520 --> 00:05:19.000 This belongs on R slash TV too high. Do you think we're also maybe 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:21.600 we're just like a little close to it? Sure, sure. 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.960 Still way too high. I didn't really think about it in the theater 00:05:27.960 --> 00:05:32.440 because it has theater seating in it. In fact, it has tiered theater seating. 00:05:32.440 --> 00:05:35.520 So you're really aiming for an optimal middle ground 00:05:35.520 --> 00:05:39.920 between the front and the rear row. But if I was putting something like this in my living room, 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:44.160 I would only want it like eight inches above the floor. 20 centimeters above the floor. 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:47.880 Right out of the gate, Google TV is standard on all of TCL's TVs, 00:05:47.880 --> 00:05:52.280 at least here in North America. Mine doesn't, which will make it really easy for Adam 00:05:52.280 --> 00:05:56.800 to turn off the gross motion smoothing. Yeah, it's pretty bad right now. 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:59.800 You know, every once in a while I'll go, 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:03.360 yeah, maybe it's, you know, not that bad. When I haven't looked at it in a while, 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:07.080 like I'll say to myself, maybe I wouldn't notice if I went into someone's house 00:06:07.080 --> 00:06:12.000 and they had motion smoothing on. And then I get a new TV and I'm like, ew. 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:16.760 When I first was testing this, even the boot logo had like motion artifacts. 00:06:16.760 --> 00:06:20.400 And I was like, what, turn it off immediately. It was so bad. 00:06:20.400 --> 00:06:23.560 Whoa, is that a display? You have a monitor. 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:25.720 I do. Several in fact. 00:06:27.640 --> 00:06:30.680 I love the hoodie you're wearing today. It's so appropriate. 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.760 It's huge. It's not very bright. It goes up to a max of 500 nits. 00:06:34.760 --> 00:06:40.200 We got 498. This ends up looking kind of flat overall though, 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.360 which I'm surprised by because in the past, 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:47.760 the larger the display, the greater the volume of light it's throwing at you, 00:06:47.760 --> 00:06:51.360 even if the peak brightness isn't as high and it can really help with immersion. 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.840 I still think it looks pretty okay 00:06:54.840 --> 00:06:59.280 for how giant of a TV this is. And it's not OLED. How much does this cost you? 00:06:59.280 --> 00:07:04.680 1500 bucks. A comparison is the thief of joy. 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:10.400 If we had another TV right here, I'd be like, oh yeah, this thing sucks. But like as is just walking into this room. 00:07:10.400 --> 00:07:14.000 That's a big TV. That looks pretty good. It's a big TV and it's fun watching it. 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:18.880 I mean, it sucks. The Plex is loading right now, but. Yeah, I don't think it has the fastest Wi-Fi card. 00:07:18.880 --> 00:07:22.840 But in the time since we bought that open box, the new gen one has come out. 00:07:22.840 --> 00:07:25.920 So you can get a brand new one from TCL this size. 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:31.040 That's two grand. How much better is the brand new one? Is it brighter? It seems to be pretty darn close, but maybe better. 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:35.600 They say surprisingly little about anything, 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:40.560 but they're flagship TVs. Of course, because TCL is not like a big flagship brand 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:44.880 like Sony is. So what are they gonna advertise? Don't tell him that. Wow, there's nothing wrong with buying TCL. 00:07:44.880 --> 00:07:48.040 They don't know that. I had a TCL TV in my home for a long time. 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:50.600 They're the TV of the NFL. Fake. 00:07:51.760 --> 00:07:55.240 Like the colors look okay. I don't know if they're correct, 00:07:55.240 --> 00:08:00.320 but like it's colorful. They look pretty okay. And I think the measurements had it at a Delta E 00:08:00.320 --> 00:08:03.600 of about four and a half. What? On average. 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:08.040 In the movie mode, vivid mode gets awful. Well, of course. 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:13.400 Yeah, don't turn on vivid mode. If you care about the artist's intent. And everything, no matter what, trends a little blue. 00:08:13.400 --> 00:08:17.280 Sure, sure. It's wild how much, like how far that's come 00:08:17.280 --> 00:08:20.680 in just the last four years. If we were looking at this TV five years ago, three years ago. 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:25.560 Oh, it would be over $10,000. And it would be terrible. 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:29.280 Now, how many local dimming zones does it have? Did we count them? 00:08:29.280 --> 00:08:34.120 Does it have local dimming? Cause this, the contrast does not look great. 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:37.720 It looks like a boat. In fact, I don't know if it has local dimming zones. 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:42.040 Is this just a VA panel with pretty okay contrast? We counted one local dimming zone. 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:51.080 The brightness is okay, but a part of why it doesn't pop off the screen 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:54.720 is that to appreciate the peaks, you gotta have the valleys. 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:59.000 Credit to their anti-glare though. This is a very demanding environment for that 00:08:59.040 --> 00:09:02.520 with studio lights all over the place. It's not bad. 00:09:02.520 --> 00:09:07.520 I've got like a pretty good string of lights in my field of vision at least, like right there. 00:09:07.520 --> 00:09:12.240 But other than that, it's fine. And that's a pretty small, like when you consider how big the TV is, 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:17.120 that's a pretty small portion of the TV. If one of my friends bought this thing for $1,500 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:20.560 and I walked into their house and this is their TV, I'd be like, that's a sick TV. 00:09:20.560 --> 00:09:24.480 One thing that is kind of disappointing, 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:27.760 but also understandable is the black uniformity. 00:09:27.760 --> 00:09:31.160 Yeah, like you can see patches of whiteness. 00:09:31.160 --> 00:09:34.640 Oh yeah, there's like a big triangle here. 00:09:34.640 --> 00:09:38.880 You're only really gonna notice that though in those big panning shots. 00:09:38.880 --> 00:09:42.360 When we got it dark enough to test, it was very noticeable. 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:47.120 Oh, it's super noticeable. There's a hot spot like right up the left side. Because you don't have local dimming, 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:51.360 you're relying on that diffusion layer to absolutely perfectly spread out the light 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:55.320 from the backlight. Though 2TCL's credit, they didn't go edge lit, 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:59.800 which ratings found recently does not really have any picture quality advantages, 00:09:59.800 --> 00:10:04.000 but can lead to premature death. So even though it doesn't have local dimming zones, 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.600 it is direct backlit, which I would say is a good thing. 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.000 Yeah, I've seen that too when one part of the light fails 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:18.080 and then it's just dimmed like that one part of the monitor and TV. So I found a listing for an open box S95B that's $1,600. 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:23.140 That's a great deal. So this is a generation old, but QD OLED panel, 00:10:23.140 --> 00:10:27.820 really nice TV. It's too bad it looks like the child of that one. 00:10:27.820 --> 00:10:32.500 Yeah. Even with the not amazing ambient light rejection 00:10:32.500 --> 00:10:37.620 of QD OLED, it's a lot better. Dude, look where you can see both of them. 00:10:37.620 --> 00:10:41.300 I know. But remember, QD OLED has that kind of purple haze 00:10:41.300 --> 00:10:45.860 compared to W OLED. So this is even as good as this can look at Moodoo, 00:10:45.860 --> 00:10:49.360 the sun, the color volume. That's the thing. 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:53.180 Is anything that has to do with full array local dimming is just gonna lose. 00:10:53.180 --> 00:10:59.100 The one that really stands out to me is the richness of these tones here. 00:10:59.100 --> 00:11:03.860 Yeah. This has no saturation. This looks like I took some like cheesecloth 00:11:03.860 --> 00:11:07.300 and I put it all over the front of the screen. I'm looking through a veil. 00:11:07.300 --> 00:11:10.300 And all the shadows have actual depth to them. 00:11:10.300 --> 00:11:14.740 You don't lose anything in the image. Whereas with this, it doesn't even get that dark. 00:11:14.740 --> 00:11:17.980 It's not crushing any blacks or anything because it's not even getting black. 00:11:17.980 --> 00:11:21.380 Look at how much more realistic the sky looks. That looks like blue. 00:11:21.420 --> 00:11:24.660 That looks real. Especially with the like leaves and stuff. 00:11:24.660 --> 00:11:28.980 Yeah. But big, big TV. 00:11:28.980 --> 00:11:32.300 Big TV. Okay. But let's talk about gaming 00:11:32.300 --> 00:11:36.700 because you've kind of left me waiting here. I gotta say, this doesn't feel that bad. 00:11:36.700 --> 00:11:41.220 No, it looks like it's 120 Hertz. I don't even mean that. I just mean the latency. 00:11:41.220 --> 00:11:44.340 Yeah. How do we set it to 144 though? 00:11:44.340 --> 00:11:47.780 I don't know actually. I'm not gonna lie. It's really confusing. 00:11:47.780 --> 00:11:53.060 Do they advertise it? Yeah. They call it game accelerator 240. 00:11:53.060 --> 00:11:57.100 I'm pretty sure it's just a backlight strobe. Oh. 00:11:57.100 --> 00:12:01.460 What? What do you mean 240? No, I'm talking about the 144 Hertz. Yeah, I don't know how they get that. 00:12:01.460 --> 00:12:03.580 Can you stop messing with it? 00:12:04.860 --> 00:12:08.200 So what do you think? Where am I supposed to go? Up here. What do you mean? 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.540 Ah! Ah! What? Wow. 00:12:11.540 --> 00:12:14.880 Dude, this level is scary. Scary? Yeah. You know what though? 00:12:14.880 --> 00:12:18.220 This feels great. Try it. Sorry, it's funny. No, it's fine. 00:12:18.220 --> 00:12:23.820 Nice. Nice. Nice. Ah, you got needle to did. 00:12:23.820 --> 00:12:27.180 It was really nice up until when it wasn't nice. Yeah, it feels totally fine. 00:12:27.180 --> 00:12:32.300 Feels completely responsive. I could game whatever game you want to game on this TV. 00:12:32.300 --> 00:12:35.300 And it would feel okay, way better than LCDs 00:12:35.300 --> 00:12:41.340 that came out in the early 2000s. Felt awful. I think overall, I think it's totally fine. 00:12:41.340 --> 00:12:44.700 Yeah, I guess it's, I'm like, who is it? I guess it's for old people and bars. 00:12:44.700 --> 00:12:48.740 Frat house. Yeah, actually if you walked into the frat house. 00:12:48.740 --> 00:12:52.260 If they can spring for a $15 for frat house, it's still a bit much. 00:12:52.260 --> 00:12:55.620 You and 15 of your friends pitching a hundred bucks. 00:12:55.620 --> 00:12:59.460 Right? You bring this bad boy in. Play smash on it? 00:12:59.460 --> 00:13:03.180 Eight player smash? Yeah. No problem at all. 00:13:03.180 --> 00:13:09.300 I have no idea what the long-term quality of it is gonna be like. Obviously this is not, by any means, a bad TV. 00:13:09.300 --> 00:13:13.100 No. No. And like, I would recommend it to somebody 00:13:13.100 --> 00:13:16.780 if they were in the market for a really big TV and had a very low budget. 00:13:17.780 --> 00:13:21.140 That was their goal? Yes. Yeah. Big TV, cheap. 00:13:21.140 --> 00:13:25.140 It's mind-boggling. And we'll link to it in the description and everything like that. 00:13:25.140 --> 00:13:29.180 As well as some other good TVs that you can check out if you don't have the space for 98 inches. 00:13:29.180 --> 00:13:32.620 Whoa. Okay, I just found something that's cheaper than this. 00:13:32.620 --> 00:13:35.660 What? And bigger. Cheaper and bigger? 00:13:35.660 --> 00:13:39.700 That's right. That's right. Wait, we're gonna make a video about that, right? 00:13:39.700 --> 00:13:44.980 Oh, oh yeah. Oh my goodness. Segway to our sponsor. 00:13:44.980 --> 00:13:49.700 Thanks for watching. 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