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that's a anymore what would they say now what do the kids say was there modern

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greeting how would I know that how many how many children do you think I interact

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with what do you think I'm a you and isn't of the internet what's up gamers I

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legitimately do need to the buzz just come from yeah we're Luke's large knee

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I probably did bump something way to be Luke you know I said way to be because

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there's a buzz in our ears oh oh you know sorry get it because bees buzz

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busy busy look I didn't say it's a good joke I just

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oh man fall behind my emails again

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what happened to me recently I just went nuts and tanked for good then all the

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ones oh it's back no okay

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alright it's gonna be a good show today so here's the question okay one thing

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you got to put that on behind you on the wall oh sick

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maybe I could be the one who wears it not like an asshole well I was gonna ask

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like should I take the costume off we were just memeing for like the the

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whatever thing Sammy's shooting when show the wind show yeah oh I wonder who

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that was thank you thanks Dan

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oh Firefox pool there's a little Firefox Easter egg on the Labs website a

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couple people found it it's not I mean it's not exactly hidden but every time

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getting like readjusted in here it's like it's a whole thing yeah it's a whole

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thing so the question was we started off by I did all the buttons up versus one

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button undone versus two buttons undone and we were trying to guess like how

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old I looked with each one and then it it feature crapped to this anyone who

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asks how old they look is in their late 30s I'm not in my late 30s I know I'm

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hundred percent okay all right are we doing this well do I wear this for the

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let's roll this show I'm doing it pre-show got to see it

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do all the things nice wait the color show that off the I absolutely hate your

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used to do better with the auto logoing I feel like many of your things just

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don't have a logo just weird yeah oh yeah no definitely this one definitely had

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an auto logo before I don't know what the deal is with this that's odd I can't

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Google Authenticator SSL their stuff yet I don't know

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who knows all I know is I'm logged in and this show is going live resuming the

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what's up everyone welcome to the WAN Show we've got a great show lined up for

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you guys today I forget what our title was so oh yes now I remember ah a judge

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has decided that Elon Musk's statements about you know the things that their

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cars were going to do and be capable of we're simply puffery which is not a

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problem awesome and not fraudulent really good precedent so for advertising on

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the heels of our discussion about what is or isn't a scam last week we'll be

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talking about an actual scam how apparently that's legal yeah the

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L2 screwdriver by the way is gonna automatically screw screws in for you

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okay I don't actually okay I get what you're trying to do here but I don't

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actually want to make false statements about our products they will not do

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that what your smart glasses might do though is docs anyone and everyone who

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happens to be near you a couple of students made an invasive DIY facial

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recognition glasses system that does just that and we'll be talking about how

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this could usher in a whole new level of future dystopia yay do you have any

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good news can you do good news see we got Amazon dark patterns we got I didn't

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be I was gonna say I didn't have any prepped give me good news good news let's go let's go I don't know good news or not minority report is coming that's

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not good returns is actually not good either

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Nintendo is suing people can't protest anymore and video is doing NVIDIA

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things okay forget it okay the negative show about bad things

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partner dbrand have you not even looked at the table did you not absorb the

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table yet oh the tables orange I love how you're able to do this sometimes it

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like glows it's crazy it doesn't actually glow but just because of like the

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lighting in the room and stuff it looks like it's almost glowing yeah that totally makes sense okay cool well we'll be talking about that later or not I

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don't know whatever the tables orange now cool let's jump right into our

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headline topic shall we yeah oh man a judge has dismissed a shareholder lawsuit

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that alleged that Tesla had made misleading statements exaggerating the

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capabilities of itself driving systems and this is where I feel like I'm about

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to go off script and we're about to talk a little bit more about a personal you

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know thought that I've had many times the legal system seems broken doesn't it

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oh yeah it seems broken it feels like it feels like there needs to be like a

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common sense filter sometimes you know where the argument could be you know

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hey we're Coca-Cola yeah we hired death squads but it was outside of your

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jurisdiction so what what are you gonna do about it that's an actual thing that

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happened so there you go their defense literally wasn't that they didn't do it

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that was the defense and I just amazing I feel like we need a common sense well

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something that I genuinely don't understand about this is the whole red bull gives you wings thing yeah like they had to add the like red bull doesn't

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actually give you wings yeah and like isn't there there's more of those it's

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not just red bull it's like a bunch of different yeah isn't it like Skittles doesn't actually show a rainbow and they like clarify that and like McDonald's

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can't say have you had your break today because nobody gets a break and you know

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not in this economy take a break so you could go do gig work have you had a

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break isn't it Kit Kat no dude no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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Michael up Microsoft up McDonald's okay when I was a child that was their

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jingle have you had your break today huh yeah don't don't worry about it then

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there was never any kind of litigation over that I was just I was making a

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really terrible reference to my child yeah but essentially false advertising

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claims in the past even ones that are like obvious have usually had to be

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clarified however if they're it just supposed to be fun like the red bull

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thing they still have to clarify and it's pretty clear that Tesla has repeatedly

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repeatedly and it's got to be knowingly at this point misrepresented the

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capabilities of their autonomous driving feature and I'm gonna use the world's

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largest finger quotes actually I'm gonna need bigger finger quotes thank you

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those are much bigger finger quotes than mine I appreciate that no problem

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however the judge dismissed the lawsuit and Tesla's lawyers this is really

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important Tesla's lawyers did not defend the claims that they had made on the

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grounds that they were true right so they you know back to the Coca-Cola death

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squads they're not defending themselves because we didn't do the thing that was

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bad it's more about the loophole it's about the technicality rather they have

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claimed that these statements that were not true were merely corporate puffery

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the lawyers argued that vague statements of corporate optimism are not

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objectively verifiable and that no reasonable investor would rely on these

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statements hmm hmm how's Tesla stock doing again actually I think it's been

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on a tear lately I don't don't quote me on that I don't I don't keep track of it

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the judge having sided with Tesla's lawyers is therefore agreeing that a

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reasonable person would have seen CEO Elon Musk's statements as obvious

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bluster and exaggeration I strongly disagree I mean how many times do we

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have to go through this whole yeah next year next year next year thing before it

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becomes pretty clear that it's not coming next year I mean do you it's been

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really interesting to watch the recent pivot to the fully autonomous robo taxi

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project when that's what was promised yeah for each and every Tesla owner I

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shouldn't say promised because apparently it was puffered that's what was

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puffered for each and every Tesla owner years ago was that their car was gonna

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make them money like their car was going to operate as a robo taxi while they

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were at work making the money it was like an it was an investment I found this

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website I just found it now I don't know how perfect it is I've never looked at

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this website before etc but I think it's pretty fantastic actually it's called

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mother frunker okay frunk and it's the full self-driving timeline I just found

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this now so it's different quotes about what the cars will be able to do you

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know we're gonna end up with complete autonomy and I think we will have

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complete autonomy in approximately two years from 2015 with the source oh yeah

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that was not two years ago you just go all the way down I really consider

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autonomous driving a solved problem I think we are less than two years away

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from a complete autonomy 2016 six months definitely that was back in 2016 as

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well you'll be able to fall asleep in a Tesla probably be able to deliver

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Teslas with autonomy in about a year that's up to the regulators yeah I know

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it isn't one of the funniest things this is wild I can't believe somebody yeah I

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can't believe somebody actually compiled all of this it might even be missing

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some I have no idea like I don't haven't looked at the site before the thing that

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I found most entertaining about this actually is that they came up at some

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point they stopped tracking in 2022 I mean imagine your defense being if

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someone like if someone files a lawsuit calling you a liar who misled them and

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caused material damage to them imagine your defense being well obviously I

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lied I lie all the time yeah how could you be stupid enough to believe me

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like come on I get that there are a handful of you that are musk sick offense

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and that's cool you do you but I stand behind the things that I do not

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appreciate about his approach to business and lying about the capabilities

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of your products and misleading people that is that is that is a scam and

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scams are bad and they are not something to be looked up to and I just I don't

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know how to I don't know how to have a conversation with someone where we are

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not grounded in the same basic truth that being a shifty character is not good

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yeah and that it's not to be applauded or respected yeah it's actually bad we

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can appreciate good things that someone accomplished but we don't have to we

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don't have to respect the extremely shady behavior that they engage in yeah

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cool so anyway I don't I don't know how to I don't know how to reconcile this to

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your point with the other with the other false advertising yeah precedent that

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has been set over the years and like it's it's it's a bit of a I don't know

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it's an interesting line because puffery could make sense like if you're like

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oh this thing is amazing blah blah blah and it's just okay like that yeah that's

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how I think puffery should be used exaggerated or false praise you know

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exaggerated I think could be okay okay false I don't think no no false praise

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get let me give you a context where false praise could be could be corporate

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puffery okay so let's say okay I'm still CEO okay we're hypothetical scenario

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okay I'm up on stage at at in the in the line of Sebastian theater you know

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whatever I'm I'm talking about our latest innovation in I don't know lapel

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technology or whatever color color technology sure okay and I'm standing

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there and auto pop I'm I anyway so I'm I'm talking about this great this great

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long-sleeve shirt that's available on the lttstore.com and and our our chief

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technical officer or whatever the heck your job is these days I honestly don't

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even know it doesn't matter walks up to walks up to the stage in like a scripted

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moment shakes my hand and goes man Linus you look you are the you look better

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than in any other outfit I've ever seen you know that that's that's that's that's

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false that's false praise you know like I think my birthday suit looks a lot

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better than this personally and well yeah the point is the point is that that's

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not is that false praise what if you what if you actually thought that but

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what if you what if you didn't it doesn't really matter this is clearly a scripted a scripted moment important yeah you are you are engaging with me in a

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way that could obviously be perceived to be just kind of corporate nonsense I'm

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not saying this shirt will have active cooling in two years yeah I or saying

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something along the lines of like this is the most innovative shirt we've ever

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made yeah that's that's just clearly exaggerated and it's puffy and it's

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kind of whatever and it's non-specific doesn't really mean and I think that's

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that's one of the problems and that's where I mean I think that's where someone

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like a Red Bull runs into trouble they're making a very specific statement

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Red Bull gives you wings which even if you don't interpret it literally you

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could interpret to mean that it makes you move faster potentially right and it

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is an energy beverage and so maybe yeah potentially there's methamphetamine in

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it I don't know you won't slow down yeah like you could actually misinterpret

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that but that's the thing with the self-driving it's not these are not vague

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statements our self-driving technology is world-leading that's puffery that's

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non-verifiable that's it's it's non-objective but saying go back to the

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go back to the things for a sec oh well I left it so give me a sec I got a

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sure this is specific

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go to some of the newer stuff because the newer stuff ends up being a little

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oh my goodness the newer stuff ends up being a bit more anyway the point is what

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is that why can't it it's a solved problem is a very specific statement that

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doesn't that doesn't mean you know we're really confident our world-class team

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can solve this problem that's that's puffery you know you're you're talking

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up the capabilities of your team you're you're you're engaging in the kind of

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thing that if you said anything other than that could be like you know could

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be potentially seen as like bullying like if you were to say anything other

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than I have complete faith in my team to deliver on on this amazing new

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technology like if you're like say that on a stage I mean that would be that

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would be terrible the optics would be terrible so I could see corporate puffery is something that you have to say you essentially have to say that you

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you believe in your plan and that the team is engaged in moving forward with

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the end of this year that is extremely specific that's not puffery that's just

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and not only are you saying that but you're saying it already has the the

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hardware capability like we can we can remotely deliver this feature to you in

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the thing that you already own if you buy it today like that type of stuff you

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know Corey is the name says can you think of any examples in which LCT has

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engaged in corporate puffery yeah yeah I look at the store I think that there

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have been cases where we've had nothing nothing product specific I don't

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think but like we've I've definitely said things that are that are not

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necessarily true to the best of my knowledge like particularly around

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someone like a like an ex-employee I would always talk up what they've done

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really well I would never talk about why we parted ways whether it was was good

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confidentiality and professionalism it's less puffery it's not really marketing

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though okay so hold on have we ever have we ever pufferied in our marketing you

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know what I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this back to you guys I'm gonna throw this

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back to you guys no I don't think trust me bro would count as puffery I think we

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have in good faith taken the best possible care of anyone who's had a

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problem with our products it's not always been the most timely we're a

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small team our customer support is onshore you know so we don't operate

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around the clock you know sometimes in particular when we have a long weekend

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or something I'm sorry that our team gets long weekends our videos our videos

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a product yeah I think our I think videos are our product thumbnails is that

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puffery though because the puffery here what I'm free exaggerated or false praise

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though it's not it's not it's praise specifically how is saying it will have

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full self-driving praise then well it's not it's not puffery that's the whole

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that's the whole thing I'm mad about is that's not puffery at all that's a

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specific statement about the capability of the product that could absolutely

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mislead an investor or a customer okay someone to float play chat I think got

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it oh there's two of them yeah I knew that was coming I knew world class is

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coming I didn't want to address it I will often in fact internally the way

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that I'll refer to our team is world-class is a bit of a meme we have a

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world-class team in a literal sense I don't actually think it's puffery we

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compete with the best in the world in the tech media space tech entertainment

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tech education we we we are very very competitive around the world we are a

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world-class team we have a global reach for our brand and for our content we are

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a world-class team however a lot of the time I use world-class and we use

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world-class team in a verbally ironic manner internally so you know someone

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will leave the bathroom in a deplorable state I was gonna give the exact same

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example pee all over the seat pee all over the floor well it looks like it

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could be pee in the sink world-class and and the first thing that people will

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start talking about on teams is world-class yeah so I don't think that's

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puffery though I think I think I think okay yes it can yes it can be but

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verbal irony is also not puffery in order to be puffery it has to be seen as an

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earnest statement this this is where like the lines get so blurry they do get

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blurry they get so blurry they do get blurry someone also pointed out world-class

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employees don't have time to eat that's really funny

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the busy making world-class videos another another one that was brought up by

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somebody was we have a great show for you today a brought a bunch of people

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brought that one up okay enjoying wancho okay yeah we say like every time yeah I

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think that is an example of puffery yeah sometimes the show is gonna be and we

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know it but like it's not good salesmanship to say yeah we got nothing

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this week we've done it which we have found some of those shows have been

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pretty good sometimes they're there yeah yeah you never know it has less to do

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with the topics and it has more to do with like how much sleep either of us

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had and there's that there's like there's a golden lock zone if we've had

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absolutely none it's like all right getting on to our next topic yeah I'm

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mad about that but if we're like yeah but but then but then like if we're

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really well rested everything is pretty sane yeah so there's this like you need

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a little bit of derangement yeah there's this magic zone where it's like we're

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not really running on quite enough sleep and neither of us caffeinates so we just

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start to get a little loopy I feel like the Japan show was like definitely one

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of those oh a hundred percent with our camera operator passed out behind the

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lens yeah I was worried about him yeah me too he's a tank yeah yeah okay so you

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guys have definitely definitely caught us on a couple of on a couple of on a

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couple of pufferies but I think when it comes to our products I know I don't

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think we puffery I feel like there's there's got to be some thumbnails dude

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thumbnails I don't think thumbnails are puffery though you don't you can't you

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don't exaggerate the what what a praise might you don't falsely praise or

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exaggerate the praise the best computer we've ever made I'm looking I'm not

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there yet what do you even do even compute by the way that's a great video

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go back do you not even do you not even alt left arrow what is what is your

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problem there down left that's friggin awesome I watched it oh yeah yeah

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cannot creator just like casually showed up at the studio Tynan did a great job

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just showing him some of our some of our prototyping tools that we use there's

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this sort of perception every once in a while when we actually do a video in

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the workshop you'll see the odd comment that's like man they spent so much money

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on this workshop they never use it they don't people don't know what we use it for and I think part of that's on us because we don't really talk about

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really I've been saying for a long time we should do engineering I think we

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should have a YouTube channel that has no upload cadence we commit to no

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uploads but it's LMG or whatever you want to call it umbrella parent company

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engineering interesting and we just show like like the the oversized screw

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drivers show how we made those the the like metal screwdrivers the carbon

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fiber one the wooden one all these different cool experiment things that we do we do tons of cool engineering stuff and we tell no one about it and

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there are entire massive youtubers and entire massive fields of YouTube that

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are entirely based around just that and we do it and we're a content creation

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company and we don't show anyone and it tries to be not you're actually not

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wrong and we could like I understand the pressure that the engineering teams

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don't want to have of needing to churn out content and just don't make required

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uploads for it but making a video makes everything take three times longer and

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most of what they use this stuff for is product development yeah which would

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sell products I know I know but it would take three times longer look look look

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okay look Artie is on the CW team now I think that he is hard at work on

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content around our in fact in fact he actually shot a video earlier this week

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or we was it already who shot I think it was already who shot it was either

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Artie or Sam Sammy they had a camera in front of their face the whole time and I

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pretty sure it was Artie anyway he actually shot a video of our meeting

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about the development of the Zuck t-shirt so as part of as part of our

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development for of a gray shirt right because we wanted kind of like our the

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Steve Mockneck we want we want to do a a Zuck t-shirt I'd love to do a Jensen

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leather jacket as well but that's gonna be a much bigger project I don't know

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how many we'd sell and it's a whole thing anyway the point is we want to do a Zuck t-shirt the Zuck and as part of our development process we kind of went

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well shoot we don't know what's the shirt he wears we don't know what special

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about it we don't know we don't know what t-shirt a billionaire wears this is

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it we answered that question this is the packaging that a t-shirt a

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billionaire wears comes in this is from Brunello Cuccinelli yeah we'll be

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unboxing it later on the show we'll be destroying it later on the show yeah

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because that's part of the of the you know product development process well

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we'll explain what that little machine is anyway the point is I believe it was

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already actually shot a video of us having the conversation evaluating this

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shirt compared to our existing blanks compared to our existing cotton blanks

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sort of talking about what's good about it what's not as good about it it was

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pretty cool it was pretty cool and so we're trying to do more of that okay

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we're trying to do more but anyway Cannot Creator did a great job Tynan did a

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great job it's a really cool little tour and it gives you a better idea of what

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exactly it is that we're doing with all of this really cool fabrication stuff

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anyway so yeah false advertising let's go or puffery puffery yeah exaggerated or

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false praise okay so actually giving you a headache but that's not it did I

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literally got a headache I'm not too surprised yeah part of it is that I

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forgot to drink water that day so yeah dude no it's perfect it's perfect it's

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unusable but it's perfect yeah but both of those both of those are are true I

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think together you can't say that's puffery I mean look if Tesla was like

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our autopilot is perfect it's unusable that would at least raise questions I

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mean yeah yeah that would give them plausible

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deniability about the the perfect statement last PC building guide you

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ever need that's not puffery that that's actually just true that is a factual

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statement the first one got like 11 or 12 million views and the comments are

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just full of like I just built my PC using this guide I built a PC that can't

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fail yeah yeah so it's a it's a high availability PC cluster but it can't

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fail it can't can't fail I mean okay all right waterproof all right that is a

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slight exaggeration all right you know what you know what you've got me it took

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it took a lot longer than I thought we had to go back months I thought it was

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gonna be pretty quick but the praise the praise part makes it difficult yeah

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which I still don't understand because it wasn't the Elon statements weren't

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praise no they were just here's what we're going to do this is the plan we'll

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have this feature on this if you can't believe the CEO of a company about the

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product roadmap then who can you believe and I can well I don't think you can

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ever believe anyone about any product timeline because no one actually knows

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but like I think there's also got to be some some amount of a limit to things all

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right why do we move on because I'm bored oh hey we've got Riley here I I

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forget I totally forgot I'm so sorry Riley I came to puff I came to puff up

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something of my own check it out check out check us out guys what is what is

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this again I forget where Jakey Jakey Jakey and Jakey attorneys at law thank

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you am I am I yelling into this thing don't hold like this I forget it's

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and address yeah yeah you're good I Dan Dan said he could give me tan said he

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could give me a chair but I decided to just come squad in here awkwardly because

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I forgot the chair sorry it is truly awkward forgot I like it though do we

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have an apple box this light is really bright don't don't look at that it's

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not it's too late Riley no Riley Linus did you know that it was Riley weak on

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Floatplane I did know that it was really weak on Floatplane this week did you

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know that I did a backflip for you I know that you cannot do a backflip whoa

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you don't know that that's anti-puffery that's puffery I watch the Star Wars

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video is really good I really like did you watch the whole thing I heard you were watching it it's fantastic who said that I think Sammy told me I liked it

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I liked it a lot well I thought it was okay Sammy told me that it took 10

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million years to edit that's some free it took a long time because it wasn't

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praise yeah yeah no I mean it took a long time it took my not gonna lie I

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stayed up all night a couple nights to get the script done and to do the

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guidance you didn't did you really I won't go all the way I don't know I don't

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know where your mouth is you've been puffing up a lot of things so oh this

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is when show we got to keep it appropriate listen Riley week is is over

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now there were three videos right yeah did you guys watch it any of them

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except the Star Wars I watched Star Wars I didn't watch any of them yet it's okay

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okay it's okay I mean on the Q&A you probably just know all of them yeah if

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I want to talk to Riley I just talked to Riley cuz he's right there we we

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match almost every day I was waiting for the Star Wars one so was I I was

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excited but I don't know what else to to say other than go subscribe to Flow

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Plane which you guys already say like five times an episode so I just kind of

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this is okay this is cool I can make what is this shadow puppets is this just

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is this just is this just marketing for Flow Plane is that the whole point yeah

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if you could just keep switching back and forth to Flow Plane there that would

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be pretty cool okay so yeah that's about Riley week among our other

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exclusives why do you guys ever use the space back here there's a lot you could

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do some you can do some activities the lights have to go down I got like talk

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linked and we don't have a mic that's on a you know freely moving I know I

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thought that this was gonna be more of a handheld thing but this like this feels

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feels wrong it's two hands it's a two-hander yeah there you go it's a

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spy hinder she buy hinder I don't think anyone but yeah yeah definitely for sure

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it's a weapon knocking it out of the park Riley what's your next topic I don't

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know are you are you joining us for the show like a stool students make

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invasive DIY facial recognition glass man yeah that that's pretty scary yeah we

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talked about that on TechLinked this week oh yeah dude what do you want me to

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go yeah I don't know what we're doing are you joining us for part of the show

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like the car is waiting for me to go review TechLinked right now but like

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bring him wait because no I'm not gonna do you want to read the tier read the

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topic really yeah students make in I'm not gonna read the whole topic make

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invasive DIY facial recognition glasses I'm gonna summarize it okay because we

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reported on this on TechLinked some students from Harvard okay fine I'll

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just read it to Harvard students set up a system that uses a video feed from

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their meta smart glasses to automatically scan the faces of strangers

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identify them and compile dossiers of personal information such as jobs

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personal associations phone numbers and addresses while the system made the

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occasional error notably it once flagged a young woman as her identical twin

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oops broken awkward throw it out the students were able to use this system

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to approach several strangers and greet them by name while pretending to be an

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acquaintance or a fan of their work how creepy would that be I mean it's

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happened I found LA is actually the worst for that this is what's funny it's

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like it's like hey you want to feel what it's like to be famous for a second or to

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be a upper mid-tier YouTube celebrity the students have published a paper

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detailing their experiment which they say was intended as a demonstration of

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what is already possible with current technology tech giants like Google and

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meta have to consider putting facial recognition into smart glasses in the past and they and they have Google has dismissed the idea due to safety and

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legal concerns after public after making a product already but that's here

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whereas meta's reasons for not pursuing it are unclear meta has not yet committed

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to not using the footage or images from their smart glasses for use in data

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scraping or AI training I mean that's all screwed the actually Riley that is the

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as in as in the whole like oh don't use it for AI training everything is being

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used for AI training already yeah they've essentially said the opposite

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Zuckerberg on a podcast thingamajigger said that he wants you to have personal

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AIs that are powered by things like the glasses that they have context of

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everything in your life yeah but like that's one thing because it's your

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personal AI I think a lot of people are probably okay with you feeding if it's

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encrypted and everything oh yeah if you like you feed your data into a

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personal AI and no one ever gets it except you yeah it's not gonna happen I

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feel like the lighting on my face is perfect for this story it's like

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dystopian yeah it kind of is like I am your personal AI your two-face I mean

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okay what else do we have to say I feel like this was actually a good topic you

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guys should continue discussing it but I have to go review tech link okay okay

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really have to go I can't stay we could bring you a laptop okay do it behind

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the set what's that you want to just have a laptop you could do it there you

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can review it on yeah you just hide behind the laptops I think next I think

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next show I'll come back and I'll be back here and you guys probably won't know until I say something okay nice workplace okay all right thank you Riley love

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you subscribe to full plane yeah all right my favorite website thank you

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Riley yeah enjoy you guys can't do this when he's bear-crawling oh okay thank

422
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,880
you very much Riley that was great I was you never know what's gonna happen when

423
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:48,240
Riley walks into the room yeah but that actually was a perfect example of

424
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:54,660
puffery yeah it's my favorite website which is fine which is there's a near

425
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:59,140
zero percent chance that's true yeah exactly who cares but that's obvious yeah

426
00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:02,620
and that's the thing puffery should be obvious and it doesn't matter yeah all

427
00:40:02,620 --> 00:40:07,740
right so let's come back to these smart glasses this is what's funny about this

428
00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:13,340
topic to me is that you and I have actually talked about this many times in

429
00:40:13,340 --> 00:40:16,460
the past and it's close to the whole time we've known each other and if you go

430
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:22,480
back far enough because Luke and I both suffer from some form of undiagnosed

431
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,440
face blindness slash oh yeah just complete inability to remember people's

432
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,560
names and we have talked about this many times in the past how what would

433
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,160
ultimately sell us going all the back to like the launch of Google Glass what

434
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,560
would ultimately sell us on this technology would be if it could serve as

435
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,920
like a Rolodex essentially when you're at a party or social function or a work

436
00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:50,860
event and it'll just tell you okay that's who that is bring up the last

437
00:40:50,860 --> 00:40:56,020
email that I exchanged with them tell me like how many kids they have so I can

438
00:40:56,020 --> 00:41:00,980
ask how their kids are doing and if you go back far enough you and I were naive

439
00:41:00,980 --> 00:41:07,220
enough slash the world hadn't distended into distended descended into dystopia

440
00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:13,700
enough that we were actually bullish on it and wanted it now I read about this

441
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,040
thing that I asked for that I wanted because it would be really helpful to

442
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:25,640
me in my daily life and I look at my go holy this is this is fucked we're

443
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,320
fucked everything's fucked yeah well because I think the thing that we were

444
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,920
wrong about and I think a lot of people including us were wrong about these

445
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:41,080
types of things or that we we thought it was gonna be ours like the whole Rolodex

446
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:45,220
idea yeah that you knew these people yeah you were essentially inputting this

447
00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:49,020
information it was checking locally to your information and then letting you

448
00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:54,020
know and that's just not gonna be what it is because data makes the world go

449
00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:59,420
round so instead of it being yours it's gonna be zucks or whoever else is and

450
00:41:59,420 --> 00:42:02,940
you're gonna be checking in to their information and to giving them more

451
00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:06,640
information also known as updated facial recognition information for these

452
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:11,140
people to make sure that it's more accurate and any data and analysis that

453
00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:14,980
you're able to scrape from that moment is gonna go up as well I also didn't I

454
00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:19,820
also didn't think about at that time maybe I was just younger and more naive

455
00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:24,100
right like I didn't think about an authoritarian government using this

456
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:28,060
technology oh yeah to keep track of absolutely everyone and where they go

457
00:42:28,060 --> 00:42:32,740
and what they do and police officers or whoever else yeah because they already

458
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,760
have it in cameras so that's not really new but this would be yeah given to

459
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,120
police officers facial recognize figured if they have like outstanding warrants

460
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,360
or whatever else and but it's not just like the outstanding warrants like this

461
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,920
could tell suspect level all kinds of stuff all kinds of stuff about people

462
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,920
right comes down to we have another topic that we'll talk about later but

463
00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,280
it's the minority report thing yeah like buddy here buddy here frequency you

464
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:07,460
know the the the CD theater you know on 6th Street and and that might and and

465
00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:11,740
and that might be factually true right but that could activate someone's

466
00:43:11,740 --> 00:43:16,500
prejudices you know what I mean so it's not like I don't even mind if it

467
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,540
scans someone it's like there's an outstanding warrant for their arrest

468
00:43:19,540 --> 00:43:24,180
that's actually reasonably helpful it's one like say there's a say there's a

469
00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:28,740
riot going on because every time that there's a riot there's some people that

470
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:36,240
are you know involved with the bad things in the riot and other people just trying to get away and it's like that will be voted for Hillary Clinton and

471
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,560
based around whatever so she has an increased likeliness of being one of

472
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,200
the people that is involved with yeah damaging of cars so arrest her even

473
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:49,000
though you didn't see it happen yeah yeah like dude that that level of that

474
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,440
level of and if you think if you think law enforcement doesn't profile it does

475
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,240
they do they 100% profile and you give them more and more tools to profile we

476
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:05,740
are I don't know if I want to live on this planet anymore you know I had a

477
00:44:05,740 --> 00:44:13,060
conversation recently where I was I was I mentioned that I I want to die on

478
00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:20,820
Mars and I was like yeah that that just increases over time handyman says to be

479
00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:26,340
fair I think you should mention the stories kind of exaggerated since you can already achieve this using your mobile phone camera any kind of camera

480
00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:30,000
it's basically just calling third-party services and and we did acknowledge

481
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,680
that it already exists that's their whole point is that this already exists but

482
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,680
it's the form factor that's scary because somebody can walk into a bathroom

483
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,840
wearing a pair of glasses you can't walk into a bathroom with your phone out

484
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:51,280
streaming data to some third-party you know image identification service

485
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:56,180
unless your name is ghee whatever is whatever his last name is yeah I don't

486
00:44:56,180 --> 00:45:01,860
know yeah like like no no this is the no cool person walks into a bathroom with

487
00:45:01,860 --> 00:45:08,140
their camera out that's a pretty normal looking pair of glasses glasses that's

488
00:45:08,140 --> 00:45:12,100
what's scary about it and the fact that you're right this is just totally a

489
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:18,460
thing that already exists is exactly their point they're not they're not

490
00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:26,720
developing this as a product they're not even trying to they're not even releasing what they've done and to your point what they've done is not a huge

491
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:30,360
technical achievement all they did was take off the shelf stuff and hook it

492
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:37,520
into other off-the-shelf stuff but that's the point right now today you could

493
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,320
have someone walking around it disorderly says but you can buy a spy camera

494
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,400
that looks like a penny clip into your pocket yeah absolutely but it's the it's

495
00:45:45,420 --> 00:45:51,940
the ease yeah it's the ease and it's the integrations and it's the it's the it's

496
00:45:51,940 --> 00:45:56,780
the smoothness of the workflow like if you just have a pen a pen if you just

497
00:45:56,780 --> 00:46:00,220
have a pen camera sticking out of your pocket and what you have to ultimately

498
00:46:00,220 --> 00:46:05,420
do is like go home at the end of the day and and ingest that footage and then

499
00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:10,140
crunch it on your like you know multi GPU server cluster and it you know

500
00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:13,380
retroactively go back and figure out who you interacted with that day like

501
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,720
that's what we'd be talking about 10 years ago right that wasn't that scary

502
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:22,080
but this whole real-time you know how many kids do you have and what are their

503
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:29,400
names and you know where did you go to school but that's that's scary I still

504
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,560
want the local Rolodex thing where like you have to input the information of the

505
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,360
people but then that doesn't even work because I'm sure there's just gonna be

506
00:46:39,380 --> 00:46:44,420
databases you can download you can you can use it that data will leak yeah all

507
00:46:44,420 --> 00:46:50,780
all data all data will leak leaky data it's our new leaky condos leaky data

508
00:46:50,780 --> 00:46:59,260
I'm just saying it's a it's a it's a widespread problem leaky data it's gonna

509
00:46:59,260 --> 00:47:03,900
cause all kinds of trouble dude you see 23 and me is in trouble oh that whole

510
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:08,180
data set's gonna end up with someone I'm so sure I'm so thrilled that relatives

511
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,600
of mine have used these services and I'm so excited about that yeah really thank

512
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,760
you thank you for that yeah and like every time we talk about that this kind

513
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,840
of stuff and what we'll have people in the audience that are like yeah but like

514
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:25,240
legally insurance providers can't use that data and the guys laws change laws

515
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:31,960
change the only people ignore them yeah that too that too if laws mattered then

516
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,880
we wouldn't be where we are today I can pretty much guarantee you every single

517
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,220
person in this building currently has broken the law at least once sure I

518
00:47:40,220 --> 00:47:47,900
probably sped in my car on the way here today I probably did as well yeah

519
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:53,420
probably for sure yeah and and like that that's the thing right so you know

520
00:47:53,420 --> 00:47:58,540
whether it's so just to give some insight on that I bet you every single

521
00:47:58,540 --> 00:48:04,420
person that drove in BC did yeah our no one follows the speed limits here are

522
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,500
where it would be dangerous if you did I watched a really interesting

523
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:12,880
documentary like ages ago I've looked for it multiple times and I haven't been

524
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:20,040
able to find it so it must have been pulled off of YouTube or something it must have been copyrighted but it was basically like an investigation into our

525
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,760
speed limits and why they're too low and why it's like actually dangerous and

526
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,760
it just they just need to go up and how the provincial government just ignores

527
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,040
it for the most part yeah really interesting it's wacky man you'll be

528
00:48:32,060 --> 00:48:37,420
driving with a police car behind you following the pace of traffic like 20

529
00:48:37,420 --> 00:48:41,340
kilometers an hour above the speed limit police cars not lighting you up and

530
00:48:41,340 --> 00:48:44,900
they'll like go around yeah they'll also get frustrated because you're actually

531
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:49,660
going too slow yeah it's just like what what is this like what oh man what a

532
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:56,220
joke anyways yeah kaseul the cat in Floatplane chat says it land this is

533
00:48:56,220 --> 00:49:00,260
such an example this is such a great example of how laws are are often so

534
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,720
sort of myopic in their in their in their implementation goes legally I can't

535
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:09,440
ask age in a job interview because that could lead to age-based discrimination

536
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:15,080
I added them the end part there so I ask when you graduated from college it's

537
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:21,080
like yeah you make a law sometimes with a really solid intent age-based

538
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:26,240
discrimination that's bad okay but people are gonna people are gonna find a

539
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,040
way around it they're gonna find a way to you know technically either they're

540
00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:34,980
gonna just do something illegal in a way that where they're not gonna get caught or they're gonna find out they're gonna find a loophole they're gonna find a

541
00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:42,100
way to technically get around it it's just our data is not gonna be protected

542
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:48,180
these products are absolutely going to end up in nefarious hands and I'm so

543
00:49:48,180 --> 00:49:52,980
uncomfortable with it yeah and then out of the other side of my mouth I talk

544
00:49:52,980 --> 00:49:56,100
about how I want to do like automated scorekeeping at the badminton center and

545
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:59,500
how we could use facial recognition to track people's gameplay and you know

546
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:04,760
whatever else right in fairness to me I trust myself to store that data only

547
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:11,200
locally on site but maybe I shouldn't and that still doesn't technically mean

548
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:17,200
that it's invulnerable and it doesn't and and and and it you know I hate to

549
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,560
open this can of worms again but let's say that you know I died or I sold the

550
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:27,160
company or whatever else there might be an expectation not laughing because he

551
00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:31,940
I'm laughing because I realized the can of worms that he's mentioning these

552
00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:36,500
opening my bad my bad my point is that that that data sitting there could be

553
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:41,900
seen as a treasure trove by whoever you know inherits or or purchases that

554
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:46,900
business and you saw what happened with the servers at NCX yeah like this

555
00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:51,660
happened the thing the hypothetical that I'm talking about right now actually

556
00:50:51,660 --> 00:50:56,740
happened at NCIX the owner didn't die but the data was not managed correctly and

557
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,360
people who ended up with servers from the auction ended up with customer data

558
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,120
from the auction that yeah that absolutely happened

559
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,720
all right

560
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,960
cool we're supposed to explain merge messages and do two merge messages now

561
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,040
thanks Dan okay so merge messages if you want to interact with the WAN Show the

562
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:26,160
best way to do it is to send a merge message like Chris F down here instead

563
00:51:26,220 --> 00:51:30,500
of sending super chats or twitch bits or anything like that we strongly encourage

564
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:33,620
people to send a merge message that way you can throw money at your screen you

565
00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:37,460
can support the WAN Show and all of the you know cool people who produce the

566
00:51:37,460 --> 00:51:44,540
WAN Show and me and you can also send in a you know something whatever you can

567
00:51:44,540 --> 00:51:48,860
send a message so it'll either be replied to by producer Dan or he'll send it

568
00:51:48,860 --> 00:51:51,900
to someone internally who can answer your question for you or he'll just pop

569
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:58,280
it up on the screen if you just got a shout out or something like that or he will curate it and that'll look a little something like this Dan do you have a

570
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:05,640
couple curated merge messages oh I didn't tell people how to send one go to lttstore.com and add anything to your cart and you will see a box where you can

571
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:11,800
fill it a merge message all right there we go sure yeah I've got one here for you hey LLD did you ever get any contact from i

572
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,880
fix it with how they feel about your precision screwdriver

573
00:52:15,820 --> 00:52:29,340
um yes I I'm not really sure I'm not really sure what to make of it are you

574
00:52:29,340 --> 00:52:35,100
saying about the tweet no oh no no I'm talking about I'm talking about an

575
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:41,100
email that came through after we talked about it on the after we talked about it

576
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:46,840
on the wanshow basically we got an email yeah you know what screw it we got an

577
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,480
email from their agency saying that they are going to be pausing our

578
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:56,160
relationship they provided some reasons for that that are like whatever I told

579
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,680
our team they they agreed to continue throughout the rest of the month of

580
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:06,520
October but I I told the team if they want out we shouldn't force them to work

581
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,800
with someone that they don't want to work with so if it's you know if it's the

582
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,860
reasons they stated then you know cool they can keep going or whatever or if

583
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:17,300
it's different reasons and they're not comfortable working together you know

584
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:23,940
that's fine basically what I what I left off with was we take our partnerships

585
00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:27,060
seriously we want to maintain positive working relationships with everyone who

586
00:53:27,060 --> 00:53:30,780
shares our passion for repairable technology just tell them take their time

587
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:37,740
we'll be here when they're ready I'm good or whatever I mean we're we're at a

588
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:44,120
scale right now where no one sponsor can do anything which is impact us important

589
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:49,800
which is which is super important and and to be clear guys there could be

590
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,640
totally totally unrelated business reasons or whatever right like I don't

591
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,920
want you guys to pass any kind of judgment but we have heard back from

592
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:07,720
them not about this like not in response to any questions we just heard from the

593
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:15,780
agency so so that's that's where we're at transparency transparency no I'm not

594
00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:19,100
gonna I'm not gonna tell the reasons because that's that's their personal

595
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:24,460
biz right so yeah but but they're what I will say is they they sound like

596
00:54:24,460 --> 00:54:28,540
perfectly plausible business reasons so I'm not there's there's no judgment here

597
00:54:28,540 --> 00:54:34,060
I just want to make it clear that from our side we have no intention of forcing

598
00:54:34,060 --> 00:54:39,040
them to fulfill any kind of pre-agreed contractual obligation if they want out

599
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,120
then I have absolutely no problem with that and if they ever want to if they

600
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,440
ever want to work with us in the future then the door is 100% open but if I were

601
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:54,520
you I wouldn't expect to see a ton of iFixit sponsorships on Linus Media

602
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,120
Group properties you'll probably still see their products show up from time to

603
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,400
time like I've said over and over and over again we like the products we love

604
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:11,140
the mission we consider them an ally and so it is what it is well all right then

605
00:55:11,140 --> 00:55:16,260
next up yeah get some announcements out of you first oh wait no don't we have

606
00:55:16,260 --> 00:55:24,020
another merch message now you gotta do the announcements and then you get one more oh I do the announcements okay the long sleeve polo shirt is now available

607
00:55:24,020 --> 00:55:27,380
we wanted to make something that you could wear to the office this fall

608
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:33,960
without sacrificing comfort and without sacrificing having a little personality

609
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,680
a flare a little bit of flair a little bit of spark so we created a long sleeve

610
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,600
polo shirt made of soft and slightly stretchy cotton elastane pk is that

611
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,440
the word peak pk whatever the best part is under the color is a fun little pop

612
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,280
of pink you'll also notice that the buttons on the polo shirt aren't buttons

613
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,880
they're snaps not only are they easier to fasten but they're great for jobs

614
00:55:56,900 --> 00:56:05,660
where buttons aren't allowed like when you're working with specific machinery where loose items can't be risked available now at LMG.gg slash long

615
00:56:05,660 --> 00:56:15,060
polo and that link goes to the forum that may be misdirected Daniel Besser is

616
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:18,500
looking at it right now because I think he probably saw me click on it and saw

617
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:24,460
me go to Linus TechTips.com yep that link is not working so I'm just gonna

618
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,760
manually show you guys the long sleeve polo oh my goodness this is such a

619
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,640
hilarious shot of Dennis they've definitely been having some fun with the

620
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:40,600
photo shoots lately massive shout out the team this is great actually it's dope

621
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,400
oh man I love it

622
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:52,120
Tachan, Sherrod, yeah I love the posed ones yeah I actually I'm kind of I'm kind

623
00:56:52,180 --> 00:56:59,380
of loving it yeah these look great yeah do groups of people posed in in in things

624
00:56:59,380 --> 00:57:06,860
the office attire has actually been a shockingly big mover for us just like

625
00:57:06,860 --> 00:57:11,740
something that's just yeah that's just is there even a logo with us oh yeah very

626
00:57:11,740 --> 00:57:16,140
subtle yeah here I can switch to the loot cam if you can show the people the

627
00:57:16,140 --> 00:57:21,820
logo oh yeah it's in there somewhere yeah we want to you know we want to we want

628
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,760
people to be able to rep the brand without like feeling uncomfortable if the

629
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,680
hour if their workplace doesn't allow logos or whatever else yeah it's just

630
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,720
just quality product trust me real guarantee all that good stuff the cargo

631
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:43,640
pants have been doing really well by the way I have some good news if you're a 32 inch inseam I believe our reorder will include 32 inch inseam so we are

632
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:49,280
we are currently putting together a list for a reorder and longer boys are

633
00:57:49,340 --> 00:57:53,940
gonna be nice pretty excited to see that I think that's that's mine I think you

634
00:57:53,940 --> 00:58:01,660
mentioned you were to 32 32 32 maybe maybe 32 36 I cannot remember but 32

635
00:58:01,660 --> 00:58:05,900
inseam 32 all right thanks you guys in good shape robo 86 asks how much do you

636
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:10,420
pay your staff for modeling we actually don't it's completely voluntary it's on

637
00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:17,300
it's during your shift oh yeah so we do pay so you get yeah your hourly yep and

638
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,080
it's and it's completely voluntary if people want to do it then that's totally

639
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,720
cool so everyone who ever posed like in their underwear did so because they were

640
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:33,360
like I'm gonna pose in my underwear let's go oh you usually or often or always I

641
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,760
forget the exact rules I think you get to keep the thing that you modeled as

642
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,880
well so yeah it's just if you feel like it and you want to and you want to like

643
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,120
rep the brand you want to be on the site then you can do that or otherwise you

644
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,500
don't have to there is absolutely no pressure whatsoever to model the merge

645
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:52,460
yeah and I just I think it's so cool that people volunteer I think it's so

646
00:58:52,460 --> 00:58:56,940
cool that the models on our site are actual people who actually work on

647
00:58:56,940 --> 00:59:02,540
actual stuff here so like Thomas works for a creator warehouse in engineering

648
00:59:02,540 --> 00:59:08,260
he's working on a cat toy right now oh among other things that I can't talk

649
00:59:08,260 --> 00:59:11,580
about but the cat toy is like a low-prior thing that he's working on

650
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,360
yeah charade from the business team Tatiana from the career warehouse fashion

651
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,040
team like these these people these are the people who actually you know bring

652
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,720
you the content I love that when I clicked him he was actually they were

653
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:31,320
like making an icon you gotta look at yourself oh boy yeah so I think that

654
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,160
really I think that really sets our I think that really sets our site apart

655
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:41,000
from a lot of other like merch stores we wear the product and it clearly people

656
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,420
want it enough that they're willing to you know they're willing to pose with it

657
00:59:45,420 --> 00:59:51,620
for just to own it so so can you stand up to show shirts like cool oh yeah go

658
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:14,560
all right you're welcome all right what are we supposed to do Dan you still got

659
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:22,040
some announcements unless you want to say oh I have more announcements oh yeah oh good gravy a mod mat signups we are another week closer to the launch of the

660
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,520
LTT mod mat to get notified right when it launches sign up at LMG GG slash mod

661
01:00:26,740 --> 01:00:30,980
mat I really hope that actually goes where it's supposed to go cool that's

662
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:36,740
good also okay this is big want to shout out ghost keyboards last week I kind of

663
01:00:36,740 --> 01:00:43,380
gave them a hard time for publicly misrepresenting an endorsement from me

664
01:00:43,380 --> 01:00:49,140
of their product because that never happened but they made it seem like it didn't need blast to their customers anyway I don't want to I don't harp on

665
01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:55,060
that right now because they have in my opinion done everything that is that is

666
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,560
right and reasonable for them to do to make it right they publicly posted what

667
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:06,680
feels like an actual sincere apology taking responsibility for misrepresenting

668
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:12,640
the situation taking action to make this right for anyone who bought the keyboard

669
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,320
based on a perceived endorsement from me they have offered an extended refund

670
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:21,640
window to anyone who purchased the keyboard in question during the time

671
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:27,420
that they had that promotion running so guys apology accepted thank you very

672
01:01:27,420 --> 01:01:33,580
much I am I am extremely pleased that we can just move forward in a positive

673
01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:41,820
fashion so yeah yeah thank you topgear 1224 other companies take note this this

674
01:01:41,820 --> 01:01:47,980
is how you deal with it we messed up we take responsibility here's what we're

675
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:54,360
doing to make amends we're gonna learn from our mistakes sincerely boom thank

676
01:01:54,360 --> 01:02:00,820
you yeah you guys you guys you guys made it right and I appreciate that I you

677
01:02:00,820 --> 01:02:05,800
know I don't think you should have done that in the first place but look the

678
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:11,600
past has to be in the past at some point and that point is now all right Dan

679
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:20,180
what's next all right I got one more message for you with some doing some more topics when dot DLL Linus you're a big fan of the Apple AirPods even though

680
01:02:20,180 --> 01:02:24,180
you use an Android would you recommend it to other people what are the biggest

681
01:02:24,180 --> 01:02:27,620
issues you've had that I need to know before doing the same this is the

682
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:33,460
announcement but do I use an Android though don't this is my new phone this

683
01:02:33,460 --> 01:02:37,380
is the first time you've told them no no I've talked about how I'm gonna go

684
01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:41,420
iPhone actually haven't set it up yet I tried earlier this week and it erred out

685
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:46,240
because I moved around in the office and I think I went I think I swapped two

686
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,760
different AP and so the transfer erred out and I had to reset it again so I'm

687
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:55,840
gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna get switched to it very very very soon it's it's living in the pocket it's gonna happen when I have a free moment I'll get the

688
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:02,640
transfer wizard done but overall there's there's some annoyances like the fact

689
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,040
that there's no official app to change the functionality of the long press that's

690
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,560
kind of annoying I don't know if it's just because my phone is really old but

691
01:03:09,700 --> 01:03:14,780
the the performance of the AirPods when they're paired to an iPhone is so much

692
01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:19,660
better compared to when they're paired to my Note 9 like on my Note 9 if I flip

693
01:03:19,660 --> 01:03:23,620
on the microwave to pop some popcorn or whatever I basically can't hear anything

694
01:03:23,620 --> 01:03:27,340
if I'm standing anywhere near it because of the 2.4 gigahertz interference

695
01:03:27,340 --> 01:03:32,020
from microwaves but if I have it paired to my iPhone 12 Pro which was my like

696
01:03:32,020 --> 01:03:34,900
utility iPhone that I had and that I will occasionally have them paired to

697
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:40,040
it's like almost flawless it's not flawless because interference but it's

698
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:46,480
way better like world's better you know not having battery monitoring I guess

699
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:51,240
is kind of a drag but I just charge them every day I've been using like I just

700
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:57,080
don't really care AirPods with Android the whole time and I don't know yeah just

701
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,880
plug them in yeah it just really doesn't doesn't bother me that much I rarely

702
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:06,540
need them for more than four hours in a row at a time so the actual you know

703
01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:10,380
battery life of the AirPods themselves and they charge so fast when they're in

704
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:14,060
the charging case it just I don't know and they charge in the charging case so

705
01:04:14,060 --> 01:04:18,380
just plug the charging case in most of the quality of life issues really don't

706
01:04:18,380 --> 01:04:22,340
seem like a huge deal there is one really nice thing when you're when you're

707
01:04:22,340 --> 01:04:26,980
on an iPhone and you take them out it'll pause you take one out it'll pause you

708
01:04:26,980 --> 01:04:33,720
take two out and it'll just automatically switch to the phone speaker because it knows you don't have either of them in whereas on my Android phone it's

709
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:38,240
a lot fat that it'll just play through them then again just playing through them

710
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,280
on my Android phone is how I found them when I left them somewhere in the house

711
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,480
I turned the volume up and then I was able to find them but then again if I had

712
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,240
an iPhone I could just use the find my feature so I don't know I don't it's all

713
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:55,400
good I I like them I still I really like them but there are some really solid

714
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,360
alternatives so you know by all means check out pixel buds check out galaxy

715
01:04:59,380 --> 01:05:02,740
buds I've heard the latest generation galaxy buds are really good but I haven't

716
01:05:02,740 --> 01:05:03,100
tried them

717
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:14,380
CompTIA revoked Linus is a plus certification question mark question mark

718
01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:15,500
question mark

719
01:05:17,660 --> 01:05:22,060
how could they know they didn't what yeah so I think they type I think they

720
01:05:22,060 --> 01:05:33,000
type of the thing here's my here's my here's my a plus certification so I'm

721
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:39,120
gonna here if I read this out can you verify sure what what link do I have to

722
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:46,680
is it in the dock okay my candidate ID is comp 00 on it are you am I supposed to

723
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:52,480
do you are you are you doing okay Luke you okay Luke are you okay okay I got it

724
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:59,160
okay I thought you wanted me to actually type in it comp 001 yeah 022 yeah 462

725
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:06,660
yeah 766 oh wait they totally entered it right yeah okay I'm confused now did

726
01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:12,000
they revoke it then because I thought Chewie said what you didn't check well

727
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,960
no Chewie said Chewie told me they didn't and he said that he replied to the

728
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:21,200
thing that they didn't and then that but that it wasn't getting a lot of

729
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:27,280
traction and so I was supposed to talk about it on the WAN Show yeah the

730
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,000
verification code oh oh hold on apparently apparently this is the

731
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:39,680
verification code okay well the verify com to your org hold on hold on here we

732
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:49,680
go the verification code alright sly foe they missed a letter yeah active there

733
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:55,800
you go so no no they did not apparently the the use okay so I gave you the

734
01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:03,800
candidate ID so what what what code is this five piece of oh oh it's the code

735
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:08,760
at the bottom here yeah yeah I see it not the candidate ID so yeah no here's

736
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:15,120
my here's my framed a plus that I still have for now look at you dude yeah I know

737
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:20,840
right people who trust the videos now yeah yep it's good we needed this my

738
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:26,920
bros they can trust me yeah yeah yeah alright yep well as my product that

739
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,600
showed up defective we can be taken care of I think so he's got an a plus

740
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:36,440
certification yeah a plus a plus that's the that's the grade yeah it's like a but

741
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,400
better sounds like you should probably trust him bro it's Canadian it's it's

742
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:47,800
enhanced Canadian a plus sorry we should maybe do something else now C plus plus

743
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:56,000
is just D hey look Amazon's doing dark patterns again legacy customers with

744
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,840
Amazon's ring alarm system will soon have to pay double for its monitoring

745
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,200
service according to email sent to ring protect plus customers they will be

746
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:12,920
migrated to the pro plan in March which costs $200 a year as opposed to $100 a

747
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,360
year that's an increase that's double the number of hundreds of dollars a year

748
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:21,200
that's yeah that's bad yes one of those customers happens to be verge writer

749
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:27,120
Sean Hollister who found it strange that Amazon's email started with this is

750
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,200
your reminder as it's the first time yeah he did manage to find an FAQ that

751
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:37,400
claimed that customers had been emailed about the change in September of 2021 but

752
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,640
he then dug up the relevant email whose subject line read important your plan

753
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:48,160
name has changed in the body of the email it read don't worry everything else is

754
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:52,840
staying the same the actual notifications that the planet itself would be phased

755
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:57,280
out and migrated to ring protect pro was located in a small footnote at the

756
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:08,200
bottom of the email that is skeezy you know if they if they got the upgrade for

757
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:13,520
free then sure other ring users have posted emails from Amazon on Reddit

758
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:19,440
which have the heading new name new features same great price these emails

759
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:24,000
then go on to note that their subscription will no longer include alarm

760
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,240
professional monitoring and SOS emergency response Amazon has not given a

761
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:35,240
reason for the price increase this is flipping wild here's some screenshots

762
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:39,440
this does not sound like a price increase here's a here's a question for you

763
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:50,280
here's a question is this puffery I mean apparently apparently that's throwback

764
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:55,840
to our first topic yeah you were just joining us yeah that's a massive yikes

765
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:02,680
this sucks I wait what is happening down there that's the deep red spot I don't

766
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:07,320
I don't know what it is okay I I don't know how to deal with this because we've

767
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,160
talked about this fairly recently actually where I basically said look a

768
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,560
contract should be a contract and you shouldn't be able to unilaterally change

769
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,360
it and the response to that is well from a legal standpoint the contract is

770
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,000
auto renewing on a monthly basis and every month it's a new contract so

771
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,600
they're just they're just giving their customers a new contract the problem

772
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:35,600
with that logic though is that in my mind there's an implicit there's an

773
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:43,360
implicit long-term expectation for anything with an upfront cost that we

774
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,400
are that we are not in fact on a month-to-month deal here where you can

775
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:51,560
change it anytime you want and for something like a security system that

776
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,600
upfront cost is a lot more than just you know a few hundred dollars on on a

777
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:01,720
camera here in there it could be creating a workflow around it it could be

778
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:06,400
training people on how to use it it could be the time that you invest in

779
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:12,920
installing it once you're once you're in this ecosystem it's actually a hugely

780
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:20,160
friction the point is that it can be a lot of work to get out of it and so if

781
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:25,360
all you have is this you know month-to-month agreement that can just be

782
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:31,160
changed unilaterally by the provider at any time what is your protection what

783
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:35,840
is the point of having a contract and I don't know how to deal with this because

784
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:41,880
yeah you can't you can't force you can't force a company to maintain the same

785
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:47,960
terms of service in the same pricing model in perpetuity that's not fair or

786
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:54,680
right either but you also can't be in a situation where freaking everything is

787
01:11:54,680 --> 01:12:00,560
like negotiating with Darth Vader I have altered the deal pray I don't alter

788
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:08,920
it for the well why but I'm stuck in this deal yeah I'm Lando what if it

789
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:15,600
what if I think we've had these conversations before but what if what if

790
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,640
you were offered a full refund at that moment like hey this subscription cost

791
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,800
is doubling we're gonna actually tell you properly instead of trying to hide it

792
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:29,560
to be clear let's make that major change and then offer you a refund because I

793
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,480
understand the initial buy-in thing is is rough but I can also understand where

794
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:41,800
like you know market conditions might change they might need to charge more for the upkeep and maintenance of something but if that's the case do they

795
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:46,000
just offer to essentially buy back your product I think I think if they buy back

796
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,400
the product I'm okay yeah I mean Google did that with Sadia I wasn't mad yeah

797
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,360
like if you're if you if you can't afford if it's not if it's no longer

798
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,840
sustainable for you to offer me the service that you offered me at the price

799
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:02,400
that we that would the price that we all agreed on then by all means here you

800
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:08,160
can you can take your take your stuff back and I'll I'll take my money you can

801
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,480
say as much as you want about how like they all well they should have scoped it

802
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:15,120
in better and like understood their costs and stuff like that and that's all

803
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,320
farewell and good when you're talking about things without doing things but

804
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,080
when you start doing things you run into this problem where basically every

805
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:27,200
company if they want to be competitive have to operate on economies of scale so

806
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,920
when you're developing something you have to assume some amount of scale and

807
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:35,040
price into that and if you don't reach that scale it might not be economically

808
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,640
viable anymore but at that point like it's not your customer's fault that it

809
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,200
isn't economically viable yeah that's not their problem so you got to buy back

810
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:46,560
your devices squirrel king makes a really great point here like let's pretend

811
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:52,760
that an employment contract worked like this would you accept that would you

812
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,360
accept an employment contract that was essentially a month-to-month contract

813
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,920
that they could just change at any time I guess employment contracts don't but

814
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:04,400
contract contracts sort of do depending on the terms usually they max at a year

815
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:11,280
and then you have to renegotiate they can but that's more that's a little more complicated because a lot of the time a contractor can also make the argument

816
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,640
that if they're fulfilling the role of an employee that they that they should be

817
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:20,280
considered an employee and their protections should be employee grade

818
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,960
protections as opposed to just contract protect protections yeah like there's

819
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:30,680
no I don't think people would accept that and so if we don't accept that you

820
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:35,040
know that we could just be paid less if our employer decides arbitrarily this

821
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:39,320
month that will be paid less well then obviously I agree with that to be clear

822
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,960
but it's I'm just I'm trying to think of scenarios where that does happen and I

823
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,800
guess it happens on a company level but I don't think it normally happens on an

824
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:56,240
individual level like if we if we have a some form of work contract with some

825
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:01,040
company yeah it's very likely that it might be a shorter term renewing contract

826
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,920
yeah yeah but probably that's company to company that's not person to company

827
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,680
or person to person but usually person to person there's more protections and

828
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,520
yeah and I'm talking about like consumer consumer protections yeah yeah yeah

829
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:19,320
like protections for the individual it just feels like we've ignored them for

830
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:25,520
so long yeah and I I'm tired of it Lena Khan dude she's doing work

831
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:32,520
it's gonna get a little bit better all right what else we got anyway Amazon bad

832
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:39,000
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message time apparently yeah hit me Dan LDL hoping you can settle an argument

876
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I've been saying for the more yes I've been saying for the non-gamer Intel and

877
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:15,800
AMD waited too long to release HEDT chips and Apple now dominates that space

878
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:26,800
with the Mac Studio thoughts no all right next question well I think should we say

879
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:34,120
a little bit more about it correct okay so okay okay I think I think the bigger

880
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:41,000
the bigger thing that happened to the HEDT market is that the high-end consumer

881
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:49,480
chips kind of took their place I mean you can get a Ryzen 9950X which has 16

882
01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:55,120
flipping cores they're they're ripping fast there's N5 and you can put that on

883
01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:01,040
a commodity AM5 motherboard I believe some of them even support ECC memory even

884
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,560
if it's unofficial does Ryzen 9000 still support ECC I actually did not look

885
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,720
into that I'm gonna have a look yes they all support ECC memory with the caveat

886
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,080
that it requires motherboard support is that different than the 7000 series yeah

887
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:19,360
okay so it seems to seems to still be a thing the point is that if you want a if

888
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:25,520
you want like a random like affordable workstation you don't have to go to high

889
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end desktop and the only real reason to go Threadripper Pro to go to go for a

890
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,280
true high-end desktop oh right then on the Intel side you've got like their 24

891
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:38,360
core chips at the high end of their consumer models so the only real reason

892
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,760
to go high-end desktop would be if you need like Mondo memory bandwidth which

893
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,880
admittedly the Mac Studio is gonna do a great job of especially if your workload

894
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:51,480
benefits from sharing that memory between the CPU and GPU or if you need a

895
01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:57,120
whole bunch of PCIe expansion which the Mac Studio doesn't address at all so I

896
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,840
I don't think the Mac Studio is really up against ATGT at all I think it's up

897
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:05,960
against high-end consumer and high-end consumer is anything but dead that's not

898
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:14,880
dead at all with that said I think that Apple has kind of killed their own

899
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,800
workstation market a little bit I I was actually I was thinking of pitching this

900
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:25,440
to Horst as a Mac Address video like I think the biggest damage Apple has

901
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:31,160
probably done to their to their M silicon lineup is by making the M1 series

902
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:37,560
too good I have not talked to a single person running a first-gen M series Mac

903
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:42,280
who's like yeah I really need something newer and I'm sure there's people who are

904
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:48,920
like like hardcore into at like music production how old are you on max at this

905
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:53,780
point sorry like four or five years old now hardcore into music production or who

906
01:21:53,780 --> 01:21:58,080
does a lot of you know rendering work or whatever else who legitimately like needs

907
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,720
a better one but in terms of general consumers which let's face it there's a

908
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:06,880
lot of Apple's customers even though they put pro at the end of everything M1

909
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:13,680
series is like yeah Dwin Len says yeah I'm still on M1 and it's great yeah 2020

910
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:19,320
apparently it was 2020 yeah my M1 max Mac Studio is still kicking butt J5 says

911
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:27,040
M1 fucks yeah dude there's just there's Apple keeps kind of coming out and be

912
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:31,880
like yeah we've got new M silicon and and it's really great and if I was buying a new

913
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:35,520
Mac because I like didn't have one I would I'd get the new one or whatever I

914
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:40,960
think I think that type of life cycle is just becoming a thing for all computers

915
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:47,160
now I think that's you know I realized the other day my dad who still plays you

916
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,520
know not necessarily the most demanding games but he plays any game that he

917
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:59,200
wants yeah that comes out new whatever Sandy Bridge Wow

918
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,360
okay the point where I never realized the point where you're a bad son it was

919
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:08,240
never a problem you know which one it is too it's the one you gave him for doing

920
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:13,240
the whole room water cooling no way yeah that's kind of sick yeah because I was

921
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:20,400
like wait what wait like why would you even have that and then I looked in this computer I was like if Rob needs an upgrade also by the way I have literally

922
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,560
given him one he just hasn't built the computer yet never mind okay because he

923
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:29,760
wants to do this like I haven't had the heart to really tell him that Tynan

924
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:34,680
already did it but he wants to do a like hard copper piped cooled system and

925
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,680
he's like designing it all and all that's cool with one of the actually one of

926
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:44,200
the members of community that was one of the whales at whale land that's designing

927
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,840
it with him okay it's gonna be this like sick thing so he hasn't bothered to

928
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:55,760
upgrade his platform or stuff yet because the games that he plays doesn't really need it anyways and because he's waiting to do like an epic build yeah I

929
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,640
mean all copper builds have been done many times I don't think it matters that

930
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,120
it's not like this I don't want to spoil it but he's got this like specific design

931
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,720
element that he wants to tie in which is like genuinely really cool so super

932
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:15,640
cool Luke's dad aimed the ultimate tech upgrade look I can't I can't

933
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,620
you know make sure he gets one but I think I think if you I think if you

934
01:24:20,620 --> 01:24:24,520
threw him in the thing I mean he's he's done some stuff for us behind the

935
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:29,520
scenes I don't know I don't know you know what I don't want to I'm not in

936
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,800
charge of that yeah we'll see if the rule makers are cool clear it with the

937
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,240
powers that be clear with the powers that be I'm fine with it though that's

938
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:42,640
what I'll say I'll say that hey Luke Dan and Linus was there a point in the

939
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:46,880
business where you ever questioned where you wouldn't be able to keep promises

940
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,880
that you had made to anyone inside or outside the company that's a hilarious

941
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,880
question remember the whole trust me bro backpack warranty controversy yeah yeah

942
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,120
that was like that was a big part of what it's based around that's that's the

943
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:03,360
whole that's the whole thing where I was like okay we should we should really

944
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:08,760
thoughtfully craft something that will be enduring and that will capture the

945
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:17,440
spirit of you know what what I would do if I was still around but also not be you

946
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:22,280
know an albatross hanging around the neck of someone that might you know

947
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:26,320
inherit or purchase the company or whatever else and it turns out that what

948
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:32,760
people actually wanted was just a generic like warranty statement that

949
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:38,600
basically just allows us to weasel out of anything and they were happy with it

950
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:51,240
and I was like okay bye sure oh wait I'm not allowed to say that okay bye you know

951
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:56,200
I think as well like these days I mean we have we have proven that the company

952
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:01,280
has a lot of resiliency these days yeah but in the really early days I think we

953
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:06,080
were all somewhat doing that to each other just be like no we're fine it'll

954
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:11,320
be okay we're fine these this new dad or big risk that we've taken or whatever is

955
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,160
fine and then you know a few years in it ended up being true but I think at the

956
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:20,280
beginning we were all somewhat you know if you reassure each other enough times

957
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,920
you're kind of reassuring yourself yeah I mean there were definitely times in

958
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:28,000
the first six months that you know I told Luke and Ed okay we got this let's go

959
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,840
let's go let's go and I wasn't a hundred percent sure if we had this but I was

960
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:37,040
sure as heck gonna do my best that might have been some puffery yeah exactly yeah

961
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:46,040
back to the back to the backpack thing for a second my point my point was

962
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:51,760
always just that the will of the company to honor the warranty is everything and

963
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:57,640
the exact terms are sort of immaterial and I think that we've seen this time and

964
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:04,960
time again since I said that so now you guys have a written warranty statement

965
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,960
but if you carefully read it it's basically at our discretion if we do

966
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:13,880
anything and if you read anyone else's warranty it's the same it's basically at

967
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:19,360
their discretion because a warranty exists as legal liability but covering

968
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:24,840
that's why that's why it's written it's not for you it's there for the company

969
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,680
it's not there for you yeah and there's a lot of things that are true that way and

970
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:36,360
if they pay more attention I don't know what else to say I get shot as a

971
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:47,240
messenger a lot I don't know whatever but yeah just like stop stop assuming like

972
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:57,840
yeah I don't know company companies aren't here to make you happy that's a

973
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:04,160
hopefully intended byproduct of them making money mr. blonde 42 says a

974
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:09,920
limited warranty limits the customers rights not the companies yeah and and

975
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,760
what's actually really interesting is we did a video recently I don't know if

976
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,400
we've actually uploaded it yet or if I don't or if I've watched it but you guys

977
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,480
haven't seen it yet oh no I think you guys have seen this one where there's

978
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:25,760
this memory it's the buying the worst products the worst products one the

979
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:30,520
memory comes with a limited lifetime warranty and then if you actually dig

980
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:34,000
into the warranty which is not available anywhere on their site but Tom's

981
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,080
hardware asked them for it when they covered the the brand I forget what the

982
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:41,320
brand is but it's in that video within the first year you get a brand new

983
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:47,280
replacement after the first year for the next two years you get a refurbished

984
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:54,360
replacement and then after that they charge you to fix it but my favorite so

985
01:28:54,360 --> 01:29:00,480
if you told me you have a lifetime warranty but after a couple of years it

986
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:06,520
basically meant give me that water bottle oh it's broken okay that'll be

987
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:13,040
$25 for a new water bottle is that is that a fucking warranty my my

988
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:18,960
technically legally it is that's a warranty yeah my favorite limited

989
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,920
lifetime warranties are when they're limited lifetime warranties only on

990
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:27,280
manufacturer defects yeah so it's like if you don't notice a manufacturer defect

991
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:33,680
for years yeah we'll cover it but it's like what do you even mean yeah I don't

992
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,400
the warranty for the backpack is like yeah it doesn't cover wear and tear so

993
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:43,480
literally it's a lifetime warranty on that when it you first got it it's good

994
01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:47,000
so if you never removed it out of the box and you kept the box in a yeah

995
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:51,680
temperature and environmentally controlled chamber and then opened it in

996
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:56,880
20 years maybe you know and there's a defect with it or something people had

997
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:01,520
no idea what they were asking me for yeah and you know what I handled it poorly

998
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:08,960
oh yeah let's go poor handling yeah yeah like yeah I did not explain it well

999
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,920
and realistically we should have just you dug your heels in we should just give

1000
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:18,280
them a warranty we should have just we should have just had the stupid meaningless piece of paper for you just done both you should have given the

1001
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:22,680
warranty first and then been like by the way it doesn't matter what matters is

1002
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:27,360
this other stuff we probably should have a lot of things yeah you know at that

1003
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,040
time at that time I think the CW team was like seven people or something like

1004
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:36,560
that maybe even less and we didn't have we literally still don't we still don't

1005
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:41,200
have a lawyer on staff no right like we we didn't have a ton of experience doing

1006
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,600
that stuff wouldn't have enough work for them but it does suck sometimes oh I

1007
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,160
know a hundred percent I just mean like I'm looking at it going like it was it

1008
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:52,280
just it just wasn't a priority because we knew that if there was a problem we

1009
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:56,560
were gonna take care of it and I get it you know you guys wanted assurance it's

1010
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,920
just that what we gave you wasn't assurance the only assurance we gave you

1011
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:04,760
was our word and also this worthless piece of paper Alan I don't know if this

1012
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,760
is true or not but Alan in full plain chat says lifetime is the expected

1013
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,320
lifetime of the product as defined by the manufacturer not the lifetime of the

1014
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:17,640
that's true I didn't even know that yeah it's complete nonsense and it's

1015
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:27,960
complete nonsense and it's and to be clear some companies are really good

1016
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:32,320
about it yeah like they will honor stuff well beyond what is what is actually

1017
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:36,320
usually it's companies honoring things beyond the warranty it's not yeah yeah

1018
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,440
or they have like an agreement which isn't technically a warranty yeah Neen

1019
01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:45,280
exists as it's a lifetime warranty when it wears out or is broken the lifetime

1020
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:57,520
is up so the warranty has run out genius yeah I love it anyway we got you oh

1021
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,880
interesting Ben Mitchell said lifetime fluids in cars equals a warranty

1022
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:10,120
period a BMW lifetime fluid in a gearbox is 50,000 miles wow yeah the wording of

1023
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:22,440
things is so crazy sometimes yeah man that's hilarious all right yes Dan

1024
01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:25,720
sure I got one more hey guys was wondering what are your thoughts on

1025
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:31,160
continuous returns by a laptop at Costco play for 90 days return get brand new

1026
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:35,760
one is that bad e-waste wise I'm pretty sure it's fraud it's called friendly

1027
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:46,200
fraud or retail fraud so have fun with that pay your taxes or don't what do

1028
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:50,040
you guys think about not paying your taxes ever if I never pay them they

1029
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:54,960
can't find me they won't know I exist and free housing and run don't be

1030
01:32:54,960 --> 01:33:04,080
surprised if you eventually do get put on a persona non grata list you may

1031
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:10,720
not be welcome to shop at Costco forever if you do that look I am not gonna lie

1032
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:16,680
to you I have taken advantage of generous return policies before I shouldn't

1033
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:27,720
have that was bad I actually I actually remembered recently probably the most

1034
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:36,920
egregious example of this we will we will we will yeah it's it's it's it's bad

1035
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:41,440
it's really bad the most egregious example of this was actually when I was

1036
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:52,320
working at NCIS and I bought three TVs from Best Buy so that I could make a

1037
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:57,560
video about a triple TV setup and then I returned them yeah that's not great I

1038
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:03,680
gotta admit I didn't properly think about the implications like I didn't I

1039
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:07,720
didn't think about that these were these were basically gonna be sold out at a

1040
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,400
loss like I didn't look at their open box pricing I was just like I need three

1041
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:19,320
TVs now oh yeah I don't need them anymore I kept they're in perfect shape I

1042
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,440
put them back all nice like is this really that much of a problem that was

1043
01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:25,920
really bad I really shouldn't have done that

1044
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:30,840
shift 5609 says don't people do this with clothes a lot I've actually heard

1045
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:35,840
that that's a trend that is skyrocketing right now I forget what it's called

1046
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:40,320
there's like a term for it is it called labeling or something buying clothes and

1047
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:49,800
returning trend war droping the yeah the term war droping may not be common yet

1048
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:55,080
but the trend is this is from times of times of India so yeah shoppers are buying

1049
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:59,880
clothes just for the Instagram pic hiding the labels in the shot and then

1050
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:03,400
returning them and apparently like high-end boutiques are dealing with a

1051
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:10,680
ton of this right now that's super cool dude that's awesome yeah so it's a it's a

1052
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:16,840
whole it's a whole thing and have I have I done this yes do I feel bad about it

1053
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:24,480
yes should I do that again no no I should not I think that I think that for

1054
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:30,680
my part unless I have a strong intent to own the product like I'll return things

1055
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,120
if I'm not happy with them if they don't meet my expectations but if I buy

1056
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:42,040
something it's because I have a strong intent to own it I'm sorry best buy I've

1057
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:47,480
barely ever returned anything I don't buy very many things which is probably the

1058
01:35:47,480 --> 01:35:51,160
the root of that cause well you and I have both taken advantage of extended

1059
01:35:51,160 --> 01:36:03,080
warranties I know oh yeah let's go that one given the predatory nature of them

1060
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:07,960
I think I could probably rationalize myself into an I don't feel that bad

1061
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:14,320
about its base yeah however technically okay what I will say is I probably took

1062
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:23,480
it pretty far oh yeah so but you know that's that yeah you just you decide

1063
01:36:23,480 --> 01:36:27,400
what you're okay with and that also happened at a time when I really didn't

1064
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:33,440
have any money which doesn't make it okay either but also and I'm sorry but

1065
01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:38,760
also that whole extended warranty thing at particularly the shop that it

1066
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:43,680
happened at future shop was pretty skeezy and pretty pushy and pretty

1067
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:50,000
exploitative it was realistically only through taking advantage of loop holes

1068
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:55,040
that you could ever really benefit from it yes and so I found those loop holes

1069
01:36:55,040 --> 01:37:02,800
yeah and benefit from them I did yeah but I shouldn't have done that

1070
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:10,600
sure how did we end up on this topic that was that that was a merch message I

1071
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:19,120
don't know what it was but yeah it was all right cool it's two three more

1072
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:27,280
topics California tries to keep big tech out of your brain but does it go far

1073
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:31,640
enough California became the second up it's gone California became the second

1074
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:37,520
US state to officially protect neural data in state law after Colorado the

1075
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:42,640
bill amends the California Consumer Privacy Act of 2018 and as such prevents

1076
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,920
companies from selling or sharing a person's neural data it also requires

1077
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:51,000
companies to make efforts to anonymize the day okay make efforts to

1078
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:55,960
anonymize also known as why not and gives consumers the right to know what

1079
01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:01,000
information is collected and the right to delete that information however some

1080
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:06,160
mental privacy advocates don't feel the law goes far enough in how it defines

1081
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:11,400
neural data while this law protects the raw data from your brain and nerves it's

1082
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:17,120
not clear whether the law covers in inferences and conclusions made from

1083
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:22,600
that data oh information that is arguably more sensitive oh good lord for

1084
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:27,160
sure sorry I'm reading ahead this is oh man for example MIT technology review

1085
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:33,400
points out that oh that research has used EEG data a measure of the brain's

1086
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:38,280
electrical activity to predict volunteers sexual orientation or whether

1087
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:44,720
they use recreational drugs conclusions like this may not be covered although

1088
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:50,200
what is interesting is that if you were ever not sure if like being gay is real

1089
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:55,880
because I don't know you live in the Stone Age brainwaves here you go cool

1090
01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:01,640
you're welcome privacy advocates privacy advocates have also argued for

1091
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:06,400
broadening the definition of neural data to include to include physiological and

1092
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:11,000
behavioral data since brain activity isn't the only indicator of how you're

1093
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,320
feeling heart rate can indicate excitement or stress and eye tracking can

1094
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:23,800
indicate what choice you're likely to make interesting oh man yeah eye tracking

1095
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:27,280
if it indicates what choice you're likely to make and then if they figure out

1096
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:33,280
that you're choosing the one that they don't want you to choose they could do like a flash sale right before your eyes to get you to get the one that they

1097
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:44,680
want you to buy that sucks that's terrible I'm happy they're moving on this

1098
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:49,240
but I like I mean it feels like it's not gonna be enough yeah gonna be loopholes

1099
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:56,680
we're just we're boned even even at the front right like we're boned dude we're

1100
01:39:56,680 --> 01:40:00,280
requiring companies to make efforts to anonymize the data that means they're

1101
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:04,120
going to do the absolute minimum as required by law and try to hide it as

1102
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:07,720
much as possible that doesn't mean they're gonna do it

1103
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:14,200
Sifrin says we already know free will isn't an actual thing you could very

1104
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:24,320
much predict a lot of stuff Cory is the name says the proletariat will rise up

1105
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:28,360
and eat the rich before this all gets too far out of hand just wait I don't

1106
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:34,480
know if they can what what's what what's uh oh man who did that who did that good

1107
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:44,280
video on authoritarianism ism use of power blah blah blah blah blah who was

1108
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:49,000
it cdp gray the rules for rulers you should watch this because the thing is

1109
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,480
when you have when you have the tools of mass surveillance and you have tools of

1110
01:40:53,480 --> 01:41:01,080
mass oppression you don't actually need a lot of people that you take care of

1111
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:08,960
really well to maintain power to maintain power over a great many people who

1112
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:14,240
you are exploiting and it's it's pretty it's pretty scary it's it's an older

1113
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:20,160
video but it is definitely worth having a look at the rules for rulers from cdp

1114
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:24,760
gray cdp gray hasn't had any like controversy anything has he knows okay

1115
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:29,560
well yeah just me okay I hope not I don't know who I'm promoting yeah they

1116
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,520
just gotta the audience has got to get over that yeah it's too much it would be

1117
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:40,520
so sad if he ever did yeah I I I I I I have seen his face oh my yeah which I

1118
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:44,600
don't know if it's interesting because yeah he might have he might have done a

1119
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:49,400
face reveal I have no idea I haven't paid attention lately I would also just

1120
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:56,920
like you guys to remember that I advocated for you don't eat me

1121
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:04,080
would you eat me yeah sure really no like are we talking if I was dead

1122
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:07,720
already you would actually participate in the murder first well I'm not I'm not

1123
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:14,880
gonna like what which scenario are we looking I'm not gonna Caesar you we

1124
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:22,480
could find 12 more people but if someone else seasoned me Caesar Caesar I

1125
01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:27,000
meant oh okay okay okay all right I'm just some Frank's on there when you

1126
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:37,320
start I would put Frank's on yeah Lucas and Brutus no and you Lucas no but

1127
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:42,400
when you're when you're running your cult town yeah okay you'd have to be

1128
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:46,280
careful to not get Caesar'd all right oh that makes sense yeah okay I'm not gonna

1129
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,200
be running a cult town we've talked about this that's you that's your dream

1130
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:54,080
not my dream instead of our dream it's loam

1131
01:42:56,040 --> 01:43:01,560
man crystal says I'm not a billionaire so I'm not rich enough for that and I am

1132
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:06,880
not I want to make that very clear by any measurement of my assets I am where

1133
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:11,160
is the line is the line billionaire at this conversation with David I know like

1134
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:16,080
ages ago I forget I forget where the line is and it's it's after hours so I'm

1135
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:22,760
not gonna bother him about it see see I'm one of the nice ones please don't

1136
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:27,560
eat me like I've called Nick like yeah whatever Nick's Nick's in management

1137
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:31,600
whatever yeah yeah yeah but people are saying most people are saying billionaire

1138
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:38,120
it looks oh Canadian or American that's a huge difference oh I've nowhere near

1139
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:42,400
either like it's not even oh no no no no I'm saying where the line is oh we got

1140
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,840
talking US dollars US dollars is the global measure measure of wealth yeah so

1141
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,200
okay well without without looking at the answers okay so what where's your line

1142
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:54,080
let's bring it down into this to take like rich yeah eat the rich where's the

1143
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:58,960
eat the rich line I mean there's a couple schools of thought because oh okay

1144
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,760
we have an expert thank you Dan yes I mean because you've got like a lot of

1145
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:06,680
people talk about the middle class yeah and the lower class and the upper class

1146
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:10,920
but there's only working class and like the ownership class right middle class

1147
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:18,720
is kind of a design to split the people right against the the the uppers of

1148
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:25,600
society mm-hmm technically Linus would be one of those people already because he

1149
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:33,560
employs people and owns a factory but he does also work yeah but I don't have to

1150
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:39,000
though I think that's an important line I don't I don't have to realistically

1151
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:46,920
anymore yeah exactly does Linus deserve to be guillotined well hold on a second

1152
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:56,240
let me just jump in and correct you it's guillotined yes all right I'll go get

1153
01:44:56,240 --> 01:45:01,840
the one in my car I'm waiting for this yeah I don't know it's it's a little

1154
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:07,120
difficult right where where is the line of like Bezos to Linus literature would

1155
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:12,200
tell us that the there is no line right interesting but I can tell you that the

1156
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:16,920
difference between my lifestyle the difference between my lifestyle and my

1157
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:22,080
wealth and Bezos is extremely dramatic absolutely is it incomparable colossal

1158
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:27,280
buddy literally wanted them to deconstruct a fucking bridge so that he

1159
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:31,520
could get his boat out of the shipyard like this is like this is a historical

1160
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:38,360
bridge everyone has a price I like my boat I need to get my shirts out my

1161
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:42,240
boat needs to be in slightly different water yeah it's I don't know I don't know

1162
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:46,800
I'm sure there's a line it's out well because you have the $400 shirts and you

1163
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:51,000
need them in your villa and in the south of France yes this is a great this is a

1164
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,480
great post from impurator the difference between one billion dollars and one

1165
01:45:55,480 --> 01:45:59,760
million dollars is approximately one billion dollars like what if you had

1166
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:04,800
800 million or 500 million or a hundred million I okay I don't I don't know this

1167
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:09,480
is I feel unqualified to weigh in on this I just I'm just kind of kind of sitting

1168
01:46:09,480 --> 01:46:15,120
here and I go back Linus has money right and I think Linus we've talked

1169
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:20,560
about this after when a few times now right Linus is he's got money but

1170
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:24,400
there's also there's also he doesn't have like a lot of money there's also an

1171
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,600
interesting question because like they're the the valuation of the company was

1172
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:32,240
something that was brought up a little while ago yes we said publicly what the

1173
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:38,080
offer was yes but this is one of those as much as we've tried to rage against

1174
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:43,760
this we are one of those inverted pyramid YouTube companies where if you

1175
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:49,880
leave we're in trouble mm-hmm like the machine is not

1176
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:54,800
necessarily staining like like Amazon will be okay it might have a pretty flat

1177
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:59,000
bottom of the pyramid right inverted pyramid but it's still an inverted

1178
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:04,000
pyramid so and we're trying and we're trying we're trying to make that better

1179
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:09,640
but it is hard yeah what we do it's it's not necessarily about that I think right

1180
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:14,240
I think it is though because that is not cash that he has that is an asset that

1181
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:17,240
he owns is the if we take Linus out of the equation I think he's just an

1182
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:21,240
example in this right take me out of the equation I don't like the direction

1183
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:27,640
this is going well pull him into pieces right like Linus has money right those

1184
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:33,040
machines are in Diablo yeah exactly but he doesn't have like extreme levels of

1185
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:37,360
wealth I mean intergenerational is he stops working also known as leaves the

1186
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:41,200
company but value of the thing that he owns goes down significantly but again

1187
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:44,880
it's not about necessarily Linus in particular when we're talking about this

1188
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:51,640
line right say Linus just owned the factory that is LMG right sure right he

1189
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:55,760
could dissolve it that would be fine he could take the money from the bio which

1190
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,320
would be what nine figures or something like that yeah but the bio required him

1191
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:03,400
to stay so he's still working it did require me to stay for a period of two

1192
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:08,040
years again you're still using him as the example if you had a hundred

1193
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:13,920
million dollars right yeah and wasn't working or just owned the company and

1194
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:19,640
did other things like is that where the line is this is 50 million because what

1195
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:23,120
I'm saying is he doesn't have a hundred million dollars I don't because he didn't

1196
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:28,440
accept the buyout mm-hmm and but I own an asset that's worth that so I said is

1197
01:48:28,440 --> 01:48:34,680
worth less if I'm not working yeah so it's complicated yeah okay but my

1198
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:39,400
question let's get off the subject of me for a minute that's what I'm trying to

1199
01:48:39,440 --> 01:48:50,320
do my question is where would the line be if we weren't talking about me that's

1200
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:54,720
what I'm trying to do does it come down to what you what you do day-to-day is it

1201
01:48:54,720 --> 01:49:01,240
your lifestyle or is it your wealth like your net worth or is it your cash

1202
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:07,480
because you could have a very frugal lifestyle but you could have a ton of

1203
01:49:07,480 --> 01:49:12,800
cash in the bank and just choose to live like a normal person you could have an

1204
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:19,160
extravagant lifestyle but actually have no real assets so you're just you're

1205
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:25,520
living check-to-check but you have a huge income you could have huge wealth huge

1206
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:29,800
net worth but actually all of it is illiquid

1207
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:36,160
illiquid whatever it's not liquid right it's it's tied up it's it's in companies

1208
01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:41,000
that that are private companies so you can't just like trade the stock on the

1209
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:45,840
open market or anything like that so you so in that category you could live a

1210
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:49,040
very extravagant lifestyle or you could not live a very extravagant lifestyle or

1211
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:55,000
you could live somewhere in between like what are we measuring here I don't know I

1212
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,560
think I think it depends on to me yeah your disregard for human life which is

1213
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:03,840
an impossible thing to measure but I do agree which is part of the problem because

1214
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:08,700
like if you if you own a bunch of businesses but aren't raking disgusting

1215
01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:12,880
ruin the world level profit margins like a lot of businesses do and you're

1216
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:17,520
employing a bunch of people in jobs that are paying them well and stuff like

1217
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:24,560
that if you have a bunch of wealth because you technically own all these businesses I don't think you should just be guillotined I think that that's kind

1218
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:27,760
of depends on the person right yeah technically you would be of the

1219
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:35,320
ownership class and therefore subject to head separation right okay but does it

1220
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:39,360
okay so then tell me this on the subject of head separation then does it come

1221
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:45,760
down to what your answer to the trolley problem would be hmm would you do you

1222
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:51,960
own the company that produces the trolleys are you the train company if so

1223
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:57,440
head separated if you are employed by the train company to drive the train

1224
01:50:57,480 --> 01:51:01,840
over people then you don't get guilty but does that mean that the person

1225
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:07,280
pulling the lever who doesn't own anything regardless of decision is cool I

1226
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:11,000
don't know if you had four billionaires on one side and one billionaire on one

1227
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:22,760
side like how can I drift across both tracks you know it's I've seen that done

1228
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:28,040
a lot yeah I don't I don't know I don't know where is the line if it's just

1229
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:31,800
monetary wealth like Linus said it depends how you use it if you just have

1230
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:41,680
a lot of wealth and are nice like okay Bill Gates okay Bill Gates versus Jeff

1231
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:49,840
Bezos so I could talk a fair bit about how dropping both Bill Gates has done a

1232
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:54,880
lot of what if I just owned all the farmland what happened then what about

1233
01:51:54,880 --> 01:52:00,640
the guy that bought the onion futures for the entire US for like ever and then

1234
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,440
yeah I had to get rules made about him what if you'd have just so much money you

1235
01:52:04,440 --> 01:52:10,040
can just be like I own all the vegetables yeah which happened Gates has yet to

1236
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:15,720
provide a really solid defense for why he owns so such a large proportion of the

1237
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:19,800
agricultural land in the United States of America what if I controlled all of

1238
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:27,200
their food if I was the one that got to decide if you eat or not yeah I I don't

1239
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:31,080
know that I would draw a distinction between those two particularly don't at

1240
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:35,100
all what if it's living outside of your means like if there if you have two

1241
01:52:35,100 --> 01:52:40,960
houses guillotine living outside of your means though if anything I think that

1242
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:45,760
could you could make the argument that they're a victim of a society that has

1243
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:56,120
no hold on I'm going somewhere with this society that has their pull the

1244
01:52:56,120 --> 01:53:01,880
rope back that has me what if they're a victim of a society that has set

1245
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:06,760
unrealistic expectations for what kind of lifestyle they have to uphold in

1246
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:11,040
order to in order to you know be one of the cool kids if that's you know

1247
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:15,960
meaningful to them what if they what if they're a victim of of the the kind of

1248
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:21,920
lending borrowing culture that we have and they and they were you know they

1249
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:26,240
felt pressured in order to keep up to borrow money in order to sort of you

1250
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:30,800
know build build that is that the way you live outside your means not

1251
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:36,360
necessarily like I think more like being inside of a societal place like

1252
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:42,200
everybody has enough like eventually you have enough right one of the one of

1253
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:45,720
the arguments that I wanted to make was like okay you make you have more than

1254
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:50,720
$200 million just 100% tax you can't have more than $200 million but then

1255
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:54,720
thinking about somebody like Bezos who actually has no money because he just

1256
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:58,720
has giant loans and then he borrows against those loans so he's in debt

1257
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:04,560
forever right he uses his massive stock wealth which isn't really anything to

1258
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:09,400
basically be in you know hundreds of million dollars of debt like Linus

1259
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:14,520
probably has more money than Bezos probably not probably not but you kind of

1260
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:19,280
get the comparison more liquid cash just in case he like I don't know feels like

1261
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:24,760
doing anything in case it's like a gold plated paper exactly I just I just have

1262
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:33,440
a bunch of gold bars in my basement that sort of thing right I wonder how many seconds it would take it's already it's already that many yeah yeah if you have

1263
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:40,520
two houses if you own 400 acres of land if you you know have 75 cars you know

1264
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:44,720
okay what if you have 400 acres of land and it's all agriculture and you're

1265
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:53,680
you're growing crops for people and you're not necessarily making yeah well if you're not gouging yeah then are you a lot of me is is the gouging how are

1266
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:59,320
you actively using your immense wealth to make life terrible for other people

1267
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,920
and I think just hoarding wealth and doing nothing with it is a form of

1268
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:07,560
actively using it to make other people's okay tell me this I mean it's no

1269
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:13,160
secret that the badminton center based on the list price is worth anywhere

1270
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:22,840
between about 20 to see what would the math be 20 to 23 million US dollars okay

1271
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:28,200
that's not a secret that you can look that up I clearly own a badminton

1272
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:32,080
center because I made a video about it and this building and this building and

1273
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:38,920
the other building and the Labs building and the other building and created a warehouse building your house and my house you forgot my old house for

1274
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:43,440
Mayan laws live okay I didn't know that was public well whatever it is now

1275
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:48,960
apparently I think you have talked about that on why before okay okay

1276
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:55,920
guillotine do we do we make a fancy one do we get the brand of skin it LTT

1277
01:55:55,920 --> 01:56:04,800
store we could livestream it the end of the end of the streak the official skin

1278
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:11,960
partner oh geez am I doing anything that makes someone's life actively worse

1279
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:17,760
that's that's where a lot of you don't invest in real estate I invest in

1280
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:21,920
business real estate I always respect that about you as you're not buying up

1281
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:29,000
houses but I do I but okay so if I if I own two houses but I literally give one

1282
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:34,000
of them to a relative to live in am I evil I think landlords are evil

1283
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:38,920
landscape like real estate prospector type people okay am I a landlord if I

1284
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:47,320
don't charge them or am I just a land no you're like you're like land bro we're

1285
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:57,840
putting your rent down this month I'm sorry I have to pay you now I mean this

1286
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:02,320
is a thing that's been debated for a bazillion years it completely comes

1287
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:08,760
down to the the yeah the oppression and next stomping that happens and if you're

1288
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:11,920
you know if you have your 400 acres but you're doing it to grow crops that

1289
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:15,640
you're selling at fair prices that are not crushing anyone if you could argue

1290
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:20,960
that just having that much capital in general is bad yes it is impossible for

1291
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:25,120
anyone else to do farming because you will own all the farmland Bill Gates then

1292
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:29,620
yeah I agree that that's bad but there is a lot of land like if you have 400

1293
01:57:29,620 --> 01:57:34,000
acres in Canada and you're not really close to the American border who cares

1294
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:38,120
yeah but what's stopping me with my vast amounts of wealth to just go to another

1295
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:43,280
country and buy up all of their stuff right but but but you didn't so is it

1296
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:48,200
the power then so back to what we're what is where's the line is is the line

1297
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:52,000
power this is where we go to the ownership class versus the working class

1298
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:56,280
right but there's a degree of the power there's degrees of ownership class and

1299
01:57:56,280 --> 01:58:01,160
so where is the power line right if money is not a problem how much control and

1300
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:05,080
power do you have right I think that should be the deciding factor right poorly

1301
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:09,040
those now we're getting into the see I don't understand back onto the person the

1302
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:13,560
terms for what these different political and philosophical arguments are but I'm

1303
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:20,120
gonna call this the Superman discussion because good dude tons of power right so

1304
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:24,480
I think there is like I'm saying with this farmer 400 acres but not a competitive

1305
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,600
400 acres that's growing crops and selling them at fair prices that man should

1306
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:34,640
fight him yeah well terrible that man should keep him in check yeah you know

1307
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:40,480
like I think I think I would want to pay attention to that guy but I it's fine

1308
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:45,440
people need crops soo for AWS asks don't you still own the old Langley house

1309
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:53,400
also as a landlord yes the only reason though the only reason the only reason is

1310
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:57,920
they asked me not to sell that's three houses they were going to they were gonna

1311
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:02,080
buy it's a lot of business property hold on they were gonna they were gonna buy

1312
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:07,440
the whole company we said we want a lot of things okay give me a sec pull the rope

1313
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:13,720
we wanted to sell it because we weren't interested in in philosophically I am

1314
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:19,080
against speculative investment I can in residential real estate I can verify that

1315
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:24,840
this all happened by the way we wanted to sell it the tenants asked us not to

1316
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:30,000
because they wanted to put together a plan to be the ones to buy it because

1317
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:33,880
they like the house they like the area and it isn't it's nice house I even give

1318
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:41,920
you a timeline yes they ultimately were not able to do that and asked to renew

1319
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:47,800
their lease was it because of your oppressive landlord pricing no okay we

1320
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:53,520
gave them we gave them I believe the same don't quote me on this I believe we

1321
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,800
gave them the same or a very similar rate to expand to the rest of the house

1322
01:59:56,840 --> 02:00:02,120
once you moved out of the basement and we have never increased their rent ever

1323
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:18,520
they're never gonna leave is there is there a two nice no is there a this

1324
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:22,760
becomes the other argument when they move out nobody has enough money to be

1325
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:28,760
nice to everybody therefore it is your being mean right you you could just use

1326
02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:32,040
your money to buy a swath of houses and then have everybody live in them for

1327
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:41,000
free and it just like that wouldn't work either now we're making the town 400

1328
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:45,840
acres of forest in northern BC and then build a town and then everybody everything

1329
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:50,280
comes back to line you can even provide them clothing and like food and you would

1330
02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:56,960
know the clothing was made well by us I mean the hypothetical people who lived in

1331
02:00:56,960 --> 02:01:02,320
the town you have my you have my personal commitment when they move out we're

1332
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:08,640
going to sell it I I do not I believe we have we have a demand problem here for

1333
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:12,480
housing but we also have a supply problem and I don't want to contribute to the

1334
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:19,480
supply problem but I'm also I'm also not into raising rents I believe I mean we

1335
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:23,560
talked about this early on the show to me a contract is a contract it's an

1336
02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:27,960
agreement and unilaterally changing the agreement is pretty stupid I think what

1337
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:32,800
about things like here's a question like if if the if there's natural inflation

1338
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:37,440
and things like power hydro do you pass power on hydro on I have no idea I'm

1339
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:43,240
not surprised I bet you don't just because it would be like annoying the

1340
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:49,440
truth is I actually just don't care I think I think you're defending your

1341
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:54,760
self and I don't think we need to because you're like a good one maybe we

1342
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:58,160
will find out eventually is it possible for there to be a good one though that's

1343
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:02,240
the question but where is the power I think there's gotta be a limit where is

1344
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:07,080
the power line like Linus doesn't have enough money or enough power to be a

1345
02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:13,960
concern right do I you good who knows I don't I don't know what I could do I've

1346
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:17,920
never really like I've never really thought about it I think I think it

1347
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:21,880
becomes a problem when you have so much wealth that you can buy all of the

1348
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:25,000
onions in the US oh and like I can't you know what do you know what I mean like

1349
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:28,360
you could destroy an economy like I can't buy politicians you can't buy

1350
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:35,880
politicians looking at some of the documentation that I've seen online I

1351
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:40,760
think you could probably buy a few they don't this seems to be a relatively easy

1352
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:45,600
thing to do I think so they're really not expensive I'm not well read enough on

1353
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:52,480
the subjects to like give all of the arguments okay so hear me out

1354
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:59,400
please please please please please please please please please we'll put the

1355
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:04,560
guillotine away this is this is a really cool blade please it has a really

1356
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:11,040
flexible zoning this is sick it allows for recreation use office use multi unit

1357
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:19,480
residential use it has over 600 underground parking stalls this building

1358
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:25,720
is this building is the size of a city block it allows for mixed retail use so

1359
02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:30,160
we could literally have like a store we could have like a like an LTT tech tech

1360
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:35,120
shop where you can come get your computer repaired get like you know that

1361
02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:40,800
tech mall in Taiwan it is almost 250,000 square feet it is literally larger than

1362
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:46,440
the entire real estate portfolio that I currently own combined if it's 256,000

1363
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:51,920
square feet that would just be sick the only problem the only problem is that

1364
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:59,280
this is an infamous building oh it was originally is it like haunted or something

1365
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:08,400
here we go vacant since 1998 oh let's do it there's a really cool YouTube video

1366
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:16,640
where they go into it from a few years back and this thing has f***ing rotted oh it

1367
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:24,120
would be a nightmare moving vlogs for four years yeah pretty much I'm gonna

1368
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:29,520
get I'm gonna get miss atheliumia from putting all the cat 16 in it yeah here

1369
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:32,960
it is though it's right between Guildford and Surrey Central City so it's like

1370
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:38,920
actually an amazing location just be abandoned this whole time I heard I heard

1371
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:44,200
a story that like an American investor showed up at a previous cord ordered sale

1372
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:48,000
and bought it for like a song like a couple million dollars or something like

1373
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:51,920
that and then just sat on it and then sold it I think it sold a couple years

1374
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:56,240
ago again to someone who thought they could resurrect it there's another

1375
02:04:56,320 --> 02:05:02,720
cord ordered sale coming clearly clearly nobody can get this thing off the

1376
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:08,960
ground what they don't have a world-class team on the floor what if you

1377
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:13,960
have a whole stall for that could you like section off half the building or

1378
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:18,120
honestly from the sounds of it three quarters of the building I think that

1379
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:22,760
the city and renovate part of it I think that the city is highly motivated to

1380
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:30,240
have this not just be an eyesore on like one of the major arteries however there

1381
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:37,360
would be serious like like safety and building code concerns around any effort

1382
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:51,280
to resurrect this thing I'm so sorry are you though the red is really funny

1383
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:54,440
sometimes I used to I used to have problems with the reddit the reddit has

1384
02:05:54,440 --> 02:06:05,040
been hilarious for quite a while now man that's really funny no I need him to

1385
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:13,320
employ me yeah don't please alright I don't know I have a weird opinion that I

1386
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:20,400
think a lot of the ether rich stuff has been like rage I don't know if we bleep

1387
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:24,920
that word out or not but I did anyways he said porn yeah I guess we don't then I

1388
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:30,680
don't know sometimes we do I think it cuz like the amount you hear people say

1389
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:35,720
like oh I'm gonna whatever like it's either that or it's that whole thing

1390
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:39,360
where like you say you're gonna do something but then the second you say

1391
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:42,400
it you're no longer really gonna do it so if you're gonna commit to things you

1392
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:51,640
should just do it without talking about it yeah interesting apparently it is I'm I'm all about that now so now he's not about it yeah I'm just gonna quit now

1393
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:56,680
cuz I've already achieved my goal yeah yeah cuz you get you get the like social

1394
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:59,800
even thinking about it you get the social credit for saying you're gonna do

1395
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:03,000
the thing right and then it's like you're satisfied you get the you get the

1396
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:07,520
dopamine hit and then you're done yeah interesting yeah like a lot of times

1397
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:11,960
especially you should you should start and then form the habit and then you

1398
02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:17,840
can tell people that you should establish the habit first huh no I don't

1399
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:21,320
have a doomsday bunker my goal is to live in harmony with the people around

1400
02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:29,680
me and not need one I but six six hundred car garage doomsday bunker videos

1401
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:34,800
if you did a doomsday but you know you can drive EVs in a doomsday bunker

1402
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:45,120
oh man be pretty sick dude Bill Randall executive VP of the real estate

1403
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:48,960
company said he's been involved in the building for 20 years dating back to

1404
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:53,840
previous owners reached Friday he confirmed Bansal as the current owner

1405
02:07:53,840 --> 02:08:01,040
and list price of 63 million little rich from my blood the important thing here

1406
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:07,160
you know how the Baman Center is like 99.8% done yeah well if you just abandon

1407
02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:10,600
that project immediately and sell the whole building and then sell all your

1408
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:19,760
other buildings all of them combined then just I don't I still don't think we

1409
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:27,480
could afford it and a bunch of debt who cares whatever well yeah because the actual because the problem is not the 63 million dollars like we could get we

1410
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:32,360
could with our cash flow with our assets we could we could probably get

1411
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:38,200
loans we could we could probably buy it because if we were gonna occupy it we

1412
02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:41,840
would only need I think 10% down like we could put together six point three

1413
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:46,200
million dollars we'll do another we'll do another lime sale Linus inventory

1414
02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:49,880
management experience sale we'll raise a couple mil that way we'll like we

1415
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:54,880
could we could probably scrape it together the problem is how much we're

1416
02:08:54,880 --> 02:09:00,120
going to spend in renovations and to my point earlier about like safety and

1417
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:05,640
building code you can't just be like in there working while you're renovating it

1418
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:12,080
you can't well okay you can get a can if you do like seals and stuff the plumbing

1419
02:09:12,080 --> 02:09:19,800
is rotted out like it's bad it's real bad and yeah they yeah me Gors says home

1420
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:23,320
renovations are always on time and on budget so yeah we would literally have

1421
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:27,360
sold all of our buildings we'd have nowhere to operate while we're like

1422
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:32,000
looking around going okay we're a bunch of like clothing designers and video

1423
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:36,880
production people and now we're renovating a building like it's just

1424
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:43,680
I work from home March 30 25 I don't think we could afford to fix it that's

1425
02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:46,720
the problem even if we could afford the building I don't think we could afford

1426
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:54,400
to fix it if we could work out a deal with the city where where they would

1427
02:09:54,400 --> 02:10:01,240
allow us to you know get a small part of it up to speed while we like tech

1428
02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:07,320
reno it or something over a span of like you said like four years then I don't

1429
02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:16,240
know yeah probably yeah it's I was wrong about the size it's 275,000 square feet

1430
02:10:16,240 --> 02:10:20,960
even bigger so so this this building we're in right now including all the

1431
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:24,200
mezzanine spaces with the amount of parking spots you could you could have

1432
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:27,840
in with where it is and the amount of parking spots that there is you could

1433
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:32,640
probably have an income stream just like renting out parking spots no no one

1434
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:37,080
park there 600 isn't it right next to Guilford it's in between Guilford and

1435
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:41,720
Surrey Central it's like in no man's land it's like if someone wanted to shop

1436
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:45,920
at the superstore and walk two blocks then they could park it they accept

1437
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:51,560
superstore has their own parking so we got nothing you just got to make that

1438
02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:55,680
the happen in place to be yeah dude this would be this would be completely

1439
02:10:55,680 --> 02:11:03,680
abandoning your badminton center and rebuilding it from scratch this would be tens of millions of dollars if you're lucky and so this is the problem in an

1440
02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:07,200
eight-page sales brochure posted online callers noted that the 2024 BC

1441
02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:11,840
assessment value was more than 114 million the problem is that if you buy

1442
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:15,480
this thing at what I say 63 million yeah if you buy this thing at 63 million and

1443
02:11:15,480 --> 02:11:20,760
you spend a hundred million dollars renovating it you're underwater and I

1444
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:24,920
think that that is maybe not a hundred million but I do think that it is not

1445
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:32,520
unrealistic for anyone who buys this to potentially spend that kind of money

1446
02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:39,080
fixing it so you could end up like I okay I I had a somewhat I had a pretty

1447
02:11:39,080 --> 02:11:43,200
not serious conversation with Yvonne that was like we should show up at the

1448
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:48,800
auction and offer like two million dollars because if this thing is gonna

1449
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:54,200
cost a hundred million dollars to renovate then maybe it is actually worth

1450
02:11:54,200 --> 02:12:01,400
nothing at a certain point it's it's worth the knockdown value dude knock down

1451
02:12:01,400 --> 02:12:05,720
land oh I don't know if the city would even allow you to do it though like you

1452
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:10,400
need a permit to knock down a building and I think they I think they the city

1453
02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:17,760
wants this thing to be a thing yeah this thing dude this the thing is frigging

1454
02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:24,280
wild yeah in 2021 2021 there was a tour there was a tour of the building here I'm

1455
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:27,960
gonna wait till this I'm gonna wait till this ad finishes is that a form of ad

1456
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:31,920
block is that okay is that fine by watching this by showing this to the

1457
02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:37,920
stream but not having them watch the ad no did you just perform there's an ad

1458
02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:42,600
for navigator was that whatever black press media is you all just say all

1459
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:47,800
everyone watching just engage in piracy nope yep nope nope it's right here there

1460
02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:53,480
fine okay so here we go so here's the inside actually like looks pretty dease

1461
02:12:53,840 --> 02:13:01,720
been vacant for more than two decades I bet it smells lovely but if you if you

1462
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:05,680
kind of they talk about it they talk about it in the video you kind of got a

1463
02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:12,800
dig a little deeper to like like no this is like actually bad developers

1464
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:19,800
envisioned an Asian show mart surprisingly not like discolored that

1465
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:28,760
doesn't matter almost at all but yeah what are those I don't know dude buy it

1466
02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:35,560
didn't you get those yeah free table yeah yeah that's huge dude dude the place

1467
02:13:35,560 --> 02:13:44,320
is freaking enormous 275,000 square feet just like everything so it's like open

1468
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:49,400
here's a plywood thing you say there was residential it's zoned for multi unit

1469
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:54,760
residential so much residential I think less than 60% so it would still be a

1470
02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:59,040
very substantial potentially very substantial amount of residential this

1471
02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:03,280
could this could literally house the entire company this is one and like

1472
02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:11,560
every endeavor the company does that that was why I was like but no and like

1473
02:14:11,560 --> 02:14:16,880
you don't you don't do necessary company housing you just have it as an option

1474
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:20,640
that is cheaper to the point where like you'd be kind of dumb to not do it and

1475
02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:25,400
then you don't do a necessary company store but you have a store on the

1476
02:14:25,400 --> 02:14:29,000
premises that sells clothing and food and everything that you need and then

1477
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:34,640
you can pay Linus bucks at the store and you earn Linus bucks for good conduct

1478
02:14:34,640 --> 02:14:40,120
at work yeah we can use the AI tracking to make sure that people are on task yeah

1479
02:14:40,120 --> 02:14:47,440
and behaving nice every ten lines of code mm-hmm you get five Linus bucks yeah

1480
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:57,960
and your weekly food ration yeah yeah I like this idea yeah it's a good idea yeah

1481
02:14:57,960 --> 02:15:06,520
Surrey Board of Trade says they should just tear it down that's what yeah sorry

1482
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:11,920
CEO and president of the Surrey Board of Trade that's the city Surrey all right well

1483
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:17,200
anyway good luck everybody oh yeah okay I didn't imagine it American lawyer

1484
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:21,200
Donald Pitt who helped launch the Phoenix Suns NBA basketball team decades ago

1485
02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:24,720
bought the building in the mid-2000s construction was completed at that time

1486
02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:28,960
since then prospective renters and or buyers have included Fraser Health

1487
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:33,320
Simon Fraser University in the RCMP but all deals eventually didn't happen

1488
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:37,560
potential uses pitched for the building have included banquet hall office space

1489
02:15:37,560 --> 02:15:42,360
homes restaurants bowling alley even an auto sales lot on the ground floor none

1490
02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:50,160
of which ever materialized two million dollars who do you have to buy it from

1491
02:15:50,160 --> 02:15:56,440
is it the city or is it the current owner who is a cool deep bandsaw but

1492
02:15:56,440 --> 02:16:00,080
they're forced to sell it it's a court ordered sale but I don't know what that

1493
02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:03,080
means this article is really interesting because it's like it's kind of

1494
02:16:03,080 --> 02:16:06,640
everything you need to know the important thing here is the lenders and the

1495
02:16:06,640 --> 02:16:09,920
owner everyone along with us we're trying to work together to find a positive

1496
02:16:09,920 --> 02:16:13,440
solution for the property and this is the realtor this is a bit of a positive

1497
02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:17,840
spin on this but there is equity in the building you know the mortgage holders

1498
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:21,760
are well protected the court ordered sale is not because there's a negative

1499
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:28,720
equity situation here so negative equity would mean that it is worth less than the

1500
02:16:28,720 --> 02:16:33,440
amount you owe on it right yeah or like the then the total liability but I also

1501
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:38,800
think that I don't know if it's worth practically anything I I am not sure if

1502
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:43,680
you have to rip up all of the plumbing and very likely all of the electrical and

1503
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:48,360
potentially the walls and everything else also I think you're paying a cool

1504
02:16:48,360 --> 02:16:52,480
like million dollars a year in property taxes the entire time you hold this

1505
02:16:52,480 --> 02:17:02,840
property yeah yeah yeah yeah well so it's probably not gonna happen ever but

1506
02:17:02,840 --> 02:17:11,000
it'd be cool it'd be pretty sick I'm just media campus yeah do it it's not my

1507
02:17:11,000 --> 02:17:18,800
debt go for gold yeah I mean it's it's a cool building it is very cool man looks

1508
02:17:18,800 --> 02:17:22,720
neat imagine you could play soccer on the lawn in the front heck yeah you could

1509
02:17:22,720 --> 02:17:27,440
company activity heck yeah you could why not like half the size you could do

1510
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:33,520
outdoor Babaton on the lawn in front look at all these Windows it's like kind

1511
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:38,520
of a cool building why not every single person has a corner office yeah right

1512
02:17:38,520 --> 02:17:42,560
look at all these corners there's a lot of corners it's beautiful what are we

1513
02:17:42,560 --> 02:17:45,680
doing right now what are we talking about how do we end up on this Luke has

1514
02:17:45,800 --> 02:17:55,160
14 minutes oh yeah Luke oh man oh man okay Nintendo I killed the Rujin X

1515
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:59,840
switch emulator last weekend Russ of the YouTube channel oh wait no this is

1516
02:17:59,840 --> 02:18:06,920
about the copyright strike for Russ from Retro Gamecore that is yeah thanks

1517
02:18:06,920 --> 02:18:10,960
Nintendo for that they got their first strike after covering the MIG switch

1518
02:18:10,960 --> 02:18:14,000
now called the MIG flash which allows you to dump games from your Nintendo

1519
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:18,160
computer according to Russ Nintendo was able to strike that video because the

1520
02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:22,720
title screen of Super Mario 3d world was shown on his computer the new strike

1521
02:18:22,720 --> 02:18:26,960
was on a video where Russ apparently demonstrated a Wii U emulator it's

1522
02:18:26,960 --> 02:18:30,240
perhaps worth noting that you can't buy Wii U games from Nintendo anymore since

1523
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:34,720
the company shut down the console's eShop last year then this Tuesday it came

1524
02:18:34,720 --> 02:18:38,920
out that Nintendo switch emulator Rujin X has been wiped out a year after

1525
02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:43,800
rival emulator Yuzu was shuttered by Nintendo according to the Rujin X

1526
02:18:43,800 --> 02:18:48,640
development team member Rip in Perry Perry the lead developer GDK Chan was

1527
02:18:48,640 --> 02:18:53,480
offered an agreement by Nintendo to stop working on the project and remove the

1528
02:18:53,480 --> 02:18:58,040
organization as well as all related assets while GDK Chan didn't tell the

1529
02:18:58,040 --> 02:19:01,400
team whether or not he was complying the emulators now gone from GitHub and the

1530
02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:05,960
official sites download page has been wiped it is speculated that this was a

1531
02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:10,680
buyout rather than any kind of threat of legal action because my understanding

1532
02:19:10,680 --> 02:19:15,800
of Rujin X was that it involved complete reverse engineering not any

1533
02:19:15,800 --> 02:19:21,800
Nintendo IP which was supposed to keep it safe from any Nintendo legal action

1534
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:28,200
interesting I don't know if any of the rest of this matters that much so maybe

1535
02:19:28,200 --> 02:19:34,320
we should do a couple more messages sure we've got to do when after dark yeah

1536
02:19:34,960 --> 02:19:38,080
that way we can at least transition to when after dark before Luke just leaves

1537
02:19:38,880 --> 02:19:44,720
yeah sure I'll focus on Luke once Luke did you or have you considered using the

1538
02:19:44,720 --> 02:19:49,600
flutter flame framework for Floatplane seems like it would work well to have a

1539
02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:53,440
unified code base across platforms we're not changing frameworks right now my

1540
02:19:53,440 --> 02:20:01,600
dude I haven't looked into it if if this was something that we were you know if

1541
02:20:01,680 --> 02:20:06,640
we were making a platform from scratch maybe we could look into stuff but yeah

1542
02:20:06,640 --> 02:20:12,320
we're not we're not doing that right now sorry the chat is also very upset at

1543
02:20:12,320 --> 02:20:19,760
this idea I don't know so dudes hey Linus do you have any pictures of that sweet

1544
02:20:19,760 --> 02:20:25,600
Suzuki you've been painting and Luke have you ever rode on the back of it dude his

1545
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:30,480
weight sitting behind me up higher than me on a bike we would tip oh your bike

1546
02:20:30,480 --> 02:20:36,080
yeah we did the first red light and just you know I wrote on the back of a scooter

1547
02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:42,320
that Dennis was driving in Taiwan me too and we'd live scary Colton and I both rode with

1548
02:20:42,320 --> 02:20:51,120
Dennis at the same time it was pretty scary that's basically me let's see one actual human or two

1549
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:51,840
homunculi

1550
02:20:56,000 --> 02:21:00,880
no I don't have any pictures I have been completely stalled on that project kind of

1551
02:21:00,880 --> 02:21:06,560
demoralized by some of the setbacks I'm gonna pick it up again I really need to

1552
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:11,760
I really I really need to pick it up again I'll get it done yeah

1553
02:21:14,480 --> 02:21:22,800
all right this is a bit hard here the person who asked that just wants to know we're getting the beard back phony Tony said in full play chat that is it's kind of true

1554
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:28,960
yeah that's fair I want the beard back I think I think I'm ready yeah yeah hey DLL question for

1555
02:21:28,960 --> 02:21:34,480
Luke any thoughts on star citizen charging $40 for the Atlas essentially making a problem with

1556
02:21:34,480 --> 02:21:37,280
loading cargo and selling a solution to the problem they made

1557
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:46,880
I mean I didn't know that was part of it um because I didn't know about this ship because

1558
02:21:46,880 --> 02:21:52,640
I check out stars isn't like once a year um I don't know dude they also sell like

1559
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:59,440
tens of thousands of dollars for a single ship don't they I don't know the whole no I don't

1560
02:21:59,440 --> 02:22:04,320
think they have anything that expensive I don't think so yeah they do I think they don't I know

1561
02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:11,360
they have there's a that are that expensive no there's there's a ship that is the like largest

1562
02:22:11,360 --> 02:22:18,640
luxury yacht and I think it's five figures at least most I dress is that it isn't ships 2022

1563
02:22:20,720 --> 02:22:28,640
725 by the Idris is old that one how much is that $25,000 600 I executive edition hey it's

1564
02:22:29,520 --> 02:22:36,320
the javelin is three thousand dollars largest destroyer class ship 480 meters in length yeah

1565
02:22:36,320 --> 02:22:41,920
but there's the 600 I executive edition okay 25 grand yeah there's nobody there's no way anybody

1566
02:22:41,920 --> 02:22:48,720
bought that uh I pretty much guarantee you someone did oh yeah for human use as an expeditionary

1567
02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:54,800
vessel for players no for players the ship is only available as a reward upon reaching the

1568
02:22:54,880 --> 02:22:59,920
legatus naviel concierge rank that requires a spending oh requires a spending of 25 grand

1569
02:23:00,480 --> 02:23:06,720
so even though the ship that's all right for spending money oh I see that's a rank for spending

1570
02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:15,680
money my guy oh the interior is in pre-concept stage design and will be updated at some point in

1571
02:23:15,680 --> 02:23:24,400
the future there's a vr chat level for it so you don't have to buy one ever like a normal person

1572
02:23:25,520 --> 02:23:32,880
moving on so like yeah I don't know uh that sucks uh stars isn't cool though they do

1573
02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:38,320
genuinely some pretty incredible things the tech behind it is super interesting what they're working

1574
02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:45,680
on is super nido you don't have to spend that much money on the game at all oh no just play the

1575
02:23:45,680 --> 02:23:50,320
game and earn money and then buy ships that way and it's totally fine I'm still working on my

1576
02:23:50,320 --> 02:23:55,600
60 dollar ship buy since it first came out a thousand years ago yeah and you're probably fine

1577
02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:59,440
okay like this cargo ship thing I wouldn't be surprised if you can just make somebody in the

1578
02:23:59,440 --> 02:24:04,800
game and just buy it in the game yep yeah so like I don't know just ignore it don't don't play into

1579
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:11,680
those things and move on talking of games have you played zero severt what okay no uh look I don't

1580
02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:15,280
know hold on can we do something really fun really quick here oh yeah sure this is still a thing

1581
02:24:15,520 --> 02:24:25,440
there's a 50 dollar super oh it's just gone and I have to click here to see it but they don't stay

1582
02:24:25,440 --> 02:24:33,760
here forever um pretty pretty wild that it's just not in the viewer activity thing this has been

1583
02:24:33,760 --> 02:24:41,920
open the whole time whole time merge messages use merge messages okay cool bye zero severt looks sick

1584
02:24:41,920 --> 02:24:48,480
from just like the steam page but I don't know it's a it's a extraction shooter but it's like

1585
02:24:48,480 --> 02:24:54,560
a little top-down game oh that's cool I guess nuclear focused very positive yeah I don't know

1586
02:24:54,560 --> 02:25:02,160
cool seems neat there's so many cool things sorry one second oh am I going back to your laptop

1587
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:09,200
they call them they call the area zakhov which is like the closest thing to tarkov

1588
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:15,600
all right that's a little nuts all right they know what they're doing uh luke you've said in

1589
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:21,200
the past you wouldn't do an AMD tech upgrade is it be too boring would you do it uh with this

1590
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:27,920
big kicker Linus is in charge and picks what you get I already pick what he gets for his upgrades

1591
02:25:27,920 --> 02:25:37,840
yeah to be honest um no I my problem was that like there just I yeah I didn't have a an interesting

1592
02:25:37,840 --> 02:25:41,840
I actually said no at one point one was offered to me I said no because I didn't think it would

1593
02:25:41,840 --> 02:25:49,040
be interesting for people um that is no longer true but I I am at the whims of the rules of

1594
02:25:49,040 --> 02:25:54,160
whoever draws the thing so I don't know if I'm eligible or not it doesn't really necessarily

1595
02:25:54,160 --> 02:26:00,160
matter I get the free computers because of that ancient awesome deal anyways so I'm something

1596
02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:04,400
that could be kind of fun as you were mentioning my dad getting one we could maybe do it that if I

1597
02:26:04,400 --> 02:26:10,560
get drawn it just my dad yeah why don't we do that um something like that could be cool um

1598
02:26:12,000 --> 02:26:17,840
and then I don't know if I there's potential that I'm going to be dramatically changing

1599
02:26:17,840 --> 02:26:22,720
my setup probably in the new year um because my roommate moved out so we're going to be moving

1600
02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:26,720
our desks into there and I could maybe drag Linus over to my house for that and we could just

1601
02:26:26,720 --> 02:26:33,920
like film it but it wouldn't have to be an AMD tech upgrade um oh weird um the behavior of the

1602
02:26:33,920 --> 02:26:38,560
dashboard seems to have changed something was incurated that I wanted to uncurate so that I

1603
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:43,680
could type a response and then push to stream but it seems to have gone straight to push to stream

1604
02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:48,160
instead of giving me an opportunity to type a response so anonymous I don't know anything

1605
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:54,080
really about the word press dot org thing but I will say that the whole uh if you don't agree with

1606
02:26:54,080 --> 02:27:02,720
this legal fight um take a buyout and then get out move seems like not really good leadership

1607
02:27:02,720 --> 02:27:07,040
is what I'll say about that back into incoming no I that's what I thought but it didn't seem to go

1608
02:27:07,040 --> 02:27:13,600
there uh that's fine we can figure it out another time okay all right what else we got you got any

1609
02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:17,600
more topics or is this went after dark officially it's officially went after dark there's a couple

1610
02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:24,320
more topics I don't uh um I don't have to leave exactly at eight um

1611
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:33,200
Redditors can't protest um platform changes anymore you have to you have to send a request

1612
02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:41,360
to um to take your your subreddit private there okay that's that uh I think we talked about the

1613
02:27:41,360 --> 02:27:46,080
flappy bird thing last week uh sketchy game dev announces recovery plan and a new kick starter

1614
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:49,920
so the background here is the day before was a hyped up multiplayer survival horror

1615
02:27:49,920 --> 02:27:54,560
extraction shooter that was misleadingly advertised as an MMO the game was very limited

1616
02:27:54,560 --> 02:27:59,040
and technically flawed when it launched in December 2023 and was withdrawn from sale after just

1617
02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:05,200
four days the developer fantastic also garnered controversy due to its alleged use of volunteer

1618
02:28:05,200 --> 02:28:10,720
and severely underpaid labor and its alleged habit of finding employees as punishment for

1619
02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:16,160
poor output now fantastic has returned with a promise that it's changed its ways and a kick

1620
02:28:16,160 --> 02:28:22,480
starter for $15,000 to develop a physics-based multiplayer co-op escape game called escape

1621
02:28:22,480 --> 02:28:27,680
factory a demo of the game is available on steam however according to data miners the game's assets

1622
02:28:27,680 --> 02:28:33,840
are flipped unity store items and its networking and matchmaking features are based on unity demo

1623
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:43,360
code so maybe don't buy it cool all right that's it okay oh we gotta cut the the zuck shirt let's do

1624
02:28:43,360 --> 02:28:53,120
that should we just do it next week no they need it oh okay it's time to unbox a $400 t-shirt oh yeah

1625
02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:59,600
i'm excited would you like to do it uh sure this is actually the second time it's unboxed so okay

1626
02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:03,360
yeah i unboxed it for a float thing exclusive you get a little card you got to read the card first

1627
02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:08,240
all right i'll read the card you can't open your present without reading your card first thank you

1628
02:29:08,240 --> 02:29:13,040
thank you for purchasing from our online boutique we have prepared your order with the utmost care

1629
02:29:13,040 --> 02:29:19,040
in salameo salameo salameo i don't know it's a metallic city uh our customer care is available

1630
02:29:19,040 --> 02:29:27,200
to assist you scan the qr code to contact our team very nice all right oh man i just cleaned the

1631
02:29:27,760 --> 02:29:35,280
okay look look i didn't buy it for myself the company bought it for competitive product research

1632
02:29:35,280 --> 02:29:42,400
yeah and we're destroying it so that we can research it it comes in a bag i mean you can't

1633
02:29:42,400 --> 02:29:47,840
figure out how a frog works without taking it apart that's what they taught me in biology class

1634
02:29:48,400 --> 02:29:54,480
why does it come in its own bag so that you have a bag and oh it doesn't even have a bag you're not

1635
02:29:54,560 --> 02:30:01,520
good at this is that surprising to anyone okay it doesn't have a lot of experience in boxing any

1636
02:30:01,520 --> 02:30:05,760
clothes have you never unboxed a four hundred dollar t-shirt usually my clothes just show up at my

1637
02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:10,800
desk you're holding it behind your laptop you are actually the worst thing it's got a big really

1638
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:21,040
big tag yeah and that's it it feels like a shirt not even like a particularly thick one or anything

1639
02:30:21,040 --> 02:30:29,120
i'm just i'm feeling like this i pinched feeling it i don't know um your customer please be advised

1640
02:30:29,120 --> 02:30:36,240
that the product cannot be returned if the security tag is removed okay do it yeah you held it under

1641
02:30:36,240 --> 02:30:44,400
the table oh look oh you need showmanship classes i think the content's better when you get mad though

1642
02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:52,960
hey there's another tag this WAN Show how much it was no why is there another tag oh i guess i

1643
02:30:52,960 --> 02:30:59,120
can try and find the i forget what this is this product of quality this product of quality fruit

1644
02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:06,400
of our labor is created in solomio a small medieval village at the gates of asisi where men and nature

1645
02:31:06,400 --> 02:31:10,960
are still aware of the harmonious rhythm of time kind of sick

1646
02:31:17,120 --> 02:31:23,440
so we're cutting this thing yep is do you want to cut it in like a specific spot so it's still

1647
02:31:23,440 --> 02:31:26,880
wearable by someone is that impossible how big is the circle it's pretty big yeah i know you just

1648
02:31:27,440 --> 02:31:31,840
still wearable after you cut a circle out of it i mean you dude it's a four hundred dollar shirt do

1649
02:31:31,840 --> 02:31:38,880
that do the nipple someone would do it oh yeah nice yeah you want to hear i don't actually i don't

1650
02:31:38,880 --> 02:31:45,440
actually see it um i'm a little confused is does it say anywhere what the product is like do you

1651
02:31:45,440 --> 02:32:02,720
have a label uh okay it feels nice are you gonna give me the label no that's just a little labels

1652
02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:12,160
there you took the label all right all right okay so what what is it this is a c8190 medium

1653
02:32:12,480 --> 02:32:17,280
yeah like i didn't think no i think that's i think that's a skew hold on i think i can

1654
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:26,400
probably i can probably search by that okay so the little rubber disc c8190 is that gonna work

1655
02:32:26,400 --> 02:32:31,600
unfortunately seems we couldn't find any results for that uh okay well i can't i can't find it

1656
02:32:31,600 --> 02:32:36,640
anymore i can't find it on their site but we definitely ordered this we bought it and now

1657
02:32:37,600 --> 02:32:41,040
okay right right right right right so one of the things that we wanted to do

1658
02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:46,800
is make sure that our zuck t-shirt which is just going to be a great t-shirt but you know comfortable

1659
02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:53,360
or whatever you know like billionaires like um we wanted to make sure that it is pretty similar

1660
02:32:53,360 --> 02:32:58,400
at least we're not going to have the same source of cotton we're not we might even use a blend

1661
02:32:58,400 --> 02:33:02,560
instead of 100% cotton it can be made the same way yeah it's not going to be made in a medieval

1662
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:07,920
village yeah it's a great t-shirt and it's going to be inspired by you know that shirt

1663
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:13,440
mark zuckerberg is always wearing um and in this shirt's defense ignoring the price tag

1664
02:33:14,480 --> 02:33:20,400
feels nice feels nice um but one of the things that we need to do in order to determine how we

1665
02:33:20,400 --> 02:33:25,600
can make a shirt like zuck would wear is we need to figure out the weight of the fabric

1666
02:33:25,600 --> 02:33:30,880
and the best way to do that i'm informed by tatiana from the i don't know she's really

1667
02:33:30,880 --> 02:33:35,280
fashion team but she works on the fashion team and also with the engineering team on like materials

1668
02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:45,760
essentially the best way to do that is to use this thing what oh did i do something wrong no i

1669
02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:50,400
just had it all nicely lined up for you okay the best way to do it is to use this thing which

1670
02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:57,200
basically goes on to a material and then has like a blade and you spin this thing and it like

1671
02:33:58,000 --> 02:34:01,520
it's yeah it's got kind of like a nasty oh there's four blades yeah that's the little

1672
02:34:01,520 --> 02:34:05,920
blade thing in there so you turn this thing and it cuts it it cuts the fabric that gives you a

1673
02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:11,280
standard sized piece of the fabric and then you you can determine the fabric weight well you just

1674
02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:16,320
dabbed it you got to go around now you got to keep pressure down the whole time yeah well i'm trying

1675
02:34:16,320 --> 02:34:23,280
okay here we go you don't have to go crazy hard because you're just going to be cutting the rubber

1676
02:34:27,200 --> 02:34:33,840
so theoretically there's four blades so you should you know not have to go technically all the way

1677
02:34:33,840 --> 02:34:42,640
around uh did we get it all right and here it is nice sorry uh brunello oh where'd it go

1678
02:34:43,360 --> 02:34:48,400
it's now in the shirt oh this isn't going to be twitch twitch tv safe anymore well that was the

1679
02:34:48,480 --> 02:34:54,880
point really to have a boob cut out yeah where did it go where did it go titty window

1680
02:34:57,360 --> 02:34:59,280
is it still like hung on by a thread or something

1681
02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:06,400
it's a high quality resilient shirt it doesn't just come apart like some peasant shirt would

1682
02:35:06,960 --> 02:35:14,240
where where did it go that's part of the vanishing if it's in the thing no this is what you get for

1683
02:35:14,240 --> 02:35:20,880
four hundred bucks where the heck is what happened i mean it's not like we can't do it again we have a

1684
02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:30,960
lot of shirt i have already flipped it inside out i'm going in what this doesn't like eat it no

1685
02:35:33,120 --> 02:35:40,880
i saw it i saw it flop yeah where did it go is it under no are we idiots is chat gonna tell us

1686
02:35:40,880 --> 02:35:45,760
where it is under the rubber no it's not under the rubber you guys look oh what how to get under

1687
02:35:45,760 --> 02:35:51,600
the rubber i have no idea how the heck did it get under the rubber that was like a magic trick

1688
02:35:55,840 --> 02:36:04,560
that's wild i have no idea all right oh wait did they oh did tachiana also give us a scale

1689
02:36:04,560 --> 02:36:08,080
yeah oh that's awesome so we're gonna find out the fabric weight right now

1690
02:36:08,880 --> 02:36:16,640
did she give you like the formula for how much the whatever uh it's grams normally and then it's gsm

1691
02:36:16,640 --> 02:36:22,880
if you 10 exit if i remember correctly okay wait it's not zero i did tear it tear it okay i'm going

1692
02:36:23,840 --> 02:36:34,400
no no the other tear uh um to tear here we go okay you good yep okay hold on why does it need

1693
02:36:34,400 --> 02:36:42,960
a lid okay i don't know error error error it's a very sensitive accurate scale oh because of the

1694
02:36:43,040 --> 02:36:55,600
air air currents oh is that 1.71 i don't i don't know yeah 1.71 grams okay so uh 17 perfectly

1695
02:36:55,600 --> 02:37:04,480
17.1 gsm it shouldn't matter but is that is that like a lot i have no idea fabric that doesn't

1696
02:37:04,480 --> 02:37:09,360
sound like a lot that doesn't sound right well it doesn't feel super like thick or anything when

1697
02:37:09,360 --> 02:37:17,120
you hold it oh okay you know 17 gsm seems like it like could be could be a thing alibaba 12 gsm

1698
02:37:17,120 --> 02:37:23,280
non-woven fabric here we go okay yeah those look like pretty like normal fabrics like like you could

1699
02:37:23,280 --> 02:37:30,080
make a shirt out of or something wait you know this is 140 gsm what hold on is that just like a mat

1700
02:37:30,080 --> 02:37:36,640
no this is fabric for t-shirts yeah no this can't be right this can't be right grams times a hundred

1701
02:37:36,640 --> 02:37:39,840
oh is it times a hundred if it's times a hundred that would make more sense i probably just forgot

1702
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:45,520
what she said yeah 100 said the right thing 170 gsm sounds a lot more like the range i was

1703
02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:50,560
expecting i don't know what gsm numbers normally are uh grams per square meter no i

1704
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:59,600
thanks how much do you charge if they just weigh it in for a grand why do they bother change the

1705
02:37:59,600 --> 02:38:10,240
number um i don't know okay i don't know uh okay but also what are we talking about oh yeah it's

1706
02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:15,680
it's great it's grams times 100 okay perfect she's in the chat oh oh my bad i forgot i thought you

1707
02:38:15,680 --> 02:38:22,000
said 10 that's no way her username is material girl it's kind of it's pretty good i like it

1708
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:29,040
i mean we're living in a material world so uh makes sense that you'd be a material girl i took it

1709
02:38:29,040 --> 02:38:35,120
off and put it back on again it said 16.9 or something okay well we'll let tachiana do it

1710
02:38:35,120 --> 02:38:42,320
properly because realistically we can't be trusted apparently yeah okay just lost the fabric sample

1711
02:38:42,320 --> 02:38:50,720
okay there's there's a question for her is seven does it 17 sound high 17 or 170 no that's probably

1712
02:38:50,720 --> 02:38:56,800
right i i can i can tell you the answer like is that a high gsm shirt not necessarily yeah okay

1713
02:38:56,800 --> 02:39:02,560
it's like fine yeah no no your your observation that it's not a particularly like thick shirt

1714
02:39:02,560 --> 02:39:06,720
she says no that's pretty normal yeah okay worksman says put the shirt on

1715
02:39:08,320 --> 02:39:13,840
with the circle all right you want to do a merch message in the meantime sure you going down yeah

1716
02:39:13,840 --> 02:39:20,960
i got a few uh shall we move to after dark as well yeah uh let's see hello wan.dll spout v2

1717
02:39:20,960 --> 02:39:28,400
i got a chance to meet both jensen huang and lisa su a few weeks ago i frozen had nothing useful

1718
02:39:28,400 --> 02:39:35,200
to say what questions would you have asked each if given the chance jensen definitely what is

1719
02:39:35,200 --> 02:39:41,680
what is the favorite what is what is your favorite artistic piece on your stove how do you properly

1720
02:39:41,680 --> 02:39:52,880
pronounce ty pick pick one pick a lame you have to decide well i feel like a billionaire

1721
02:39:52,880 --> 02:39:57,440
oh hey it's not actually a problem yeah this is perfect nice we should do this is a statement

1722
02:39:57,440 --> 02:40:04,000
we should i actually feel like that is an artsy shirt look if if the whole point of buying a super

1723
02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:09,040
if the point of buying a super expensive article of clothing is that you can afford it and other

1724
02:40:09,040 --> 02:40:18,160
people can't then it should be an even bigger flex to destroy it yeah and then be able to afford to

1725
02:40:18,160 --> 02:40:24,160
destroy it which other people can't i'm just following their logic i'm not i'm not really into

1726
02:40:24,160 --> 02:40:28,400
the whole four hundred dollar t-shirt thing also there's some kind of weird stuff about it like

1727
02:40:28,400 --> 02:40:32,640
do you notice the shoulders does seem to sit a little weird little like like a little peak

1728
02:40:32,640 --> 02:40:36,480
i think that might just be from it being pressed how it's yeah might just be from because there's

1729
02:40:36,480 --> 02:40:40,160
a line all the way down your down your shoulder which is almost certainly from it being folded

1730
02:40:40,160 --> 02:40:45,680
for so long look you gotta draw a dollar sign in the middle of the circle what like on my skin

1731
02:40:46,240 --> 02:40:51,040
no i don't want silver sharpie on my skin no i reject okay you need a black one so it looks

1732
02:40:51,040 --> 02:40:56,560
like a tattoo oh my god it's a window to the tattoo yeah and it's it's normally you'd have a

1733
02:40:56,560 --> 02:41:01,200
window to your soul so this way it shows a dollar sign because it's it's a window to his heart yeah

1734
02:41:01,200 --> 02:41:08,160
i will say this um uh you guys can see more detail about it in the Floatplane exclusive

1735
02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:11,920
if you're subscribed to Floatplane uh and realistically if you were shopping for a

1736
02:41:11,920 --> 02:41:18,000
shirt like this you can afford to subscribe to Floatplane um but the fit it's not great

1737
02:41:18,880 --> 02:41:22,480
yeah it's like kind of okay it's not that flattering in my opinion

1738
02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:30,080
the shoulders it has kind of like a weird second

1739
02:41:30,640 --> 02:41:35,520
yeah scene at the bottom it comes really far down unnecessary scene as well um

1740
02:41:37,200 --> 02:41:42,560
doesn't look at the way it like bunches if i lift my arms yeah i have rejected garments for

1741
02:41:42,560 --> 02:41:47,600
that had better sleeves than this is some of this uh being impacted by the giant hole that we put

1742
02:41:47,600 --> 02:41:53,840
in it no i like the hole yeah the artful hole yeah i think having an undershirt on that the the

1743
02:41:53,840 --> 02:41:59,520
second seam on the back of the shoulder is weird yeah that is odd are you guys going to do that

1744
02:41:59,520 --> 02:42:08,320
then um do what put a weird seam on the ARM yeah i guess we'd have to okay yeah well it's the zuck

1745
02:42:08,320 --> 02:42:13,600
i mean the steve had like a weird seam down the middle is this really like is he does he wear

1746
02:42:13,600 --> 02:42:18,080
this shirt all the time right now i don't know if he does right now but i don't care i mean steve

1747
02:42:18,080 --> 02:42:22,640
jobs doesn't wear that shirt right now because zuckerberg has done a big like really he's going

1748
02:42:22,640 --> 02:42:27,440
to let me get away with that one what do you say i said steve jobs doesn't wear that shirt right now

1749
02:42:27,440 --> 02:42:33,920
oh my goodness um because zuckerberg is he's he's like all trendy now and stuff he looks like this

1750
02:42:33,920 --> 02:42:39,040
that's okay yeah i know but we're not going to do that i'm and this shirt is apparently him

1751
02:42:39,120 --> 02:42:45,600
he he he took some phrase that is like um you must be Caesar to rule or something in Latin

1752
02:42:45,600 --> 02:42:47,920
i don't remember exactly how it went and he changed it to zuck

1753
02:42:51,280 --> 02:42:53,760
let me let me try to find the information on it give me one sec

1754
02:42:55,600 --> 02:43:00,880
zuck has gone full hello fellow kids yeah a little bit make an elon girl he's pulling it off though

1755
02:43:01,520 --> 02:43:07,920
he's pulling it off an elon girdle okay anyway um

1756
02:43:09,840 --> 02:43:16,480
yeah patch the hole with an LTT logo yeah i could be down make that part of the shirt you

1757
02:43:16,480 --> 02:43:22,480
sell no i don't think we'd put a giant LTT logo okay apparently there was a phrase i'm not going

1758
02:43:22,480 --> 02:43:28,240
to be able to pronounce it correctly at all which is like au caesar au nihil which means either a

1759
02:43:28,320 --> 02:43:36,160
caesar or nothing or simply all or nothing uh the saying it was indicative of grand ambition

1760
02:43:36,160 --> 02:43:43,040
and it was a personal motto of italian renaissance prince caesar borgia or whatever and his shirt

1761
02:43:43,040 --> 02:43:48,880
is the same thing but he replaced caesar with zuck and he made it himself and that's that's his shirt

1762
02:43:51,840 --> 02:43:57,600
you've got that and you guys went with the gray one yeah all right it's more iconic is it yeah

1763
02:43:57,600 --> 02:44:01,760
he wore it for a long time okay yeah the gray shirt is super iconic i don't pay attention to him

1764
02:44:01,760 --> 02:44:08,160
yeah i don't blame oh it's this one there are a lot of photos of this okay yeah wow he really

1765
02:44:08,160 --> 02:44:14,480
does look like he looks so much better now i'm so happy for him yeah there was nowhere to go but up

1766
02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:19,680
i don't know that he looks like he's he looks like logon paul like that's who he looks like he's

1767
02:44:19,680 --> 02:44:24,400
trying to dress like he's gonna make prime but it's like the number because he's like a computer guy

1768
02:44:24,400 --> 02:44:33,760
or something this over this i think it's a win i think it's a win yeah that's cool yeah he's doing

1769
02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:40,160
better yeah the haircut was really problematic before yeah it's like i want to can you accentuate

1770
02:44:40,160 --> 02:44:46,240
my receding hairline yeah it's like that's what he told or like my large forehead i guess it's not

1771
02:44:46,240 --> 02:44:50,400
even receding it's just really really big forehead i think this has been good for zuck and bad for the

1772
02:44:50,400 --> 02:44:56,960
people because people have started liking him a lot um and i think oh yeah do people just like

1773
02:44:56,960 --> 02:45:02,560
like mark zuckerberg now i think so interesting yeah so we're not gonna eat him well he seems

1774
02:45:02,560 --> 02:45:08,160
like he'd be chewy anyway he's got lizard meat no we gotta smoke him he's got those smoked meats

1775
02:45:10,400 --> 02:45:15,760
smoke with those meats baby rays or i can't remember it was a long time ago baby rays barbecue

1776
02:45:15,760 --> 02:45:21,120
saw something like that sweet baby rays baby rays oh chat says they're still gonna eat him they just

1777
02:45:21,120 --> 02:45:26,480
like him okay okay so they like him but they're gonna eat him shut a single tear yeah okay that's

1778
02:45:26,480 --> 02:45:34,640
interesting nice how many tears do i get do i get more tears enough to salt the meat i pour some

1779
02:45:34,640 --> 02:45:42,000
internet on it it's got more than enough sodium yeah all right high dwell do you think AMD no longer

1780
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:50,880
doing high-end GPU's uh affect exclusivity a i b partners like xfx power color and sapphire

1781
02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:58,000
could we uh see them reaching out to invidia um no i don't power color and sapphire have been

1782
02:45:58,000 --> 02:46:05,280
all AMD through much worse times than we're in now oh yeah um and xfx they made the they made the

1783
02:46:05,280 --> 02:46:10,480
move they essentially like pulled an evga except just instead of pulling out of the vga market

1784
02:46:10,480 --> 02:46:17,040
entirely they were just like we're not going to sell cards from the only chipset vendor that matters

1785
02:46:17,040 --> 02:46:20,880
and we're going to go to AMD and like try to survive like that and they're still i mean they're

1786
02:46:20,880 --> 02:46:28,240
still kicking obviously but um AMD's done this before the for context the rumor is that AMD's

1787
02:46:28,240 --> 02:46:36,240
upcoming GPU family is not going to have like a high end like a 900 you know 80 900 x tx or

1788
02:46:36,320 --> 02:46:40,400
you know that'll kind of suck they've done it before polaris they didn't have a high end product

1789
02:46:40,400 --> 02:46:44,800
and partners apparently survived in fact i think they gained market share during that time so it

1790
02:46:44,800 --> 02:46:49,840
might be okay we'll see only time will tell that'll suck because Intel's not doing it either

1791
02:46:50,560 --> 02:46:57,600
yeah so if you want high end you're gonna pay the invidia tax period sweet you're getting you'll

1792
02:46:57,600 --> 02:47:03,120
get an even cooler kitchen sorry go for it it can have a second kitchen have you you've seen

1793
02:47:03,120 --> 02:47:06,640
his kitchen right i've seen the kitchen everyone's seen the kitchen how can anyone ever get over that

1794
02:47:06,640 --> 02:47:09,440
kitchen i don't know it's a nice kitchen what do you what do you want

1795
02:47:17,040 --> 02:47:23,760
my goodness is that even that crazy of a kitchen he's got a mural behind his stone he's got a

1796
02:47:23,760 --> 02:47:30,000
mantle yeah okay it's pretty crazy i don't know i never looked that close at it is that a wolf stove

1797
02:47:30,720 --> 02:47:34,400
i don't know what's a wolf stove does he have a combi oven if he doesn't have a combi oven it's

1798
02:47:34,400 --> 02:47:40,000
not it's a combi oven chat knows what a combi oven is i don't know how are you how are you rich and

1799
02:47:40,000 --> 02:47:44,960
you don't have a combi this is like one of 47 kitchens or something i live in like a mc mansion

1800
02:47:44,960 --> 02:47:51,280
it's just a normal house but big i don't i don't actually do like you know fireplace mantle on

1801
02:47:51,280 --> 02:47:57,600
my stove what defines a mansion i think over 5000 square feet why did it autofill kitchen

1802
02:47:57,600 --> 02:48:04,400
why is it asking me my location stop combi oven is way more combi oven is

1803
02:48:04,400 --> 02:48:10,080
combi oven allows you to control humidity and temperature and has convection steam injection

1804
02:48:10,080 --> 02:48:14,560
i hate it when you're making croissant things do you gotta have a kind of i look for definition

1805
02:48:14,560 --> 02:48:18,800
of a mansion and it says a manor house it's like what does that mean yeah well it doesn't have a

1806
02:48:18,800 --> 02:48:24,640
firm definition that's why well okay actually the first definition is a large impressive house

1807
02:48:24,640 --> 02:48:33,200
nice mansion bro look up mc mansion that's just that's not even a real thing it's a real thing

1808
02:48:33,200 --> 02:48:41,680
that's a hundred percent of it's the mc donald's version of a mansion they're uh they put up like

1809
02:48:41,680 --> 02:48:50,960
entire they're tasteless right why would you say that about your own home because it's it's basic

1810
02:48:51,040 --> 02:48:55,200
it's lacking architectural integrity yeah well it's not it's not like

1811
02:48:55,200 --> 02:49:00,000
does your house lack architectural integrity bro old money would look at my house and be like

1812
02:49:02,000 --> 02:49:07,680
does it even have any history like it's not it's just it's just a giant house it's it's a normal

1813
02:49:07,680 --> 02:49:13,120
house it's a normal house except it's big i linked one of my favorite like i don't know

1814
02:49:13,120 --> 02:49:19,200
it can we even say blogs anymore uh this this person basically goes through and explains why

1815
02:49:19,200 --> 02:49:27,840
they suck uh and there's some insane houses just so badly thought through i don't even i saw some

1816
02:49:27,840 --> 02:49:33,920
dude i don't even know a lot of the words on here inappropriate use of prairie mullions what is that

1817
02:49:33,920 --> 02:49:41,680
so i did architecture for a while there's like so many weird weird turns can you zoom in a little bit

1818
02:49:41,680 --> 02:49:43,680
uh

1819
02:49:47,200 --> 02:49:52,960
piggy nose extremely stealth oh what am i oh it's it's like a tiny little

1820
02:49:52,960 --> 02:49:58,960
porthole wheel a window that they put there for some reason dude i saw some really weird

1821
02:49:58,960 --> 02:50:06,320
houses when we were shopping there's a lot of um in in the in the kind of area ish where i live

1822
02:50:06,320 --> 02:50:11,840
there's a lot of houses that the owners clearly designed it and you know it's just some super

1823
02:50:11,840 --> 02:50:20,480
weird stuff to eat with sticks chopstick's machine with stuff on it i'm not gonna say what this looks

1824
02:50:20,480 --> 02:50:29,920
like i don't even see that i like that hell yeah what is this is this mic mansion hell is this a

1825
02:50:29,920 --> 02:50:40,720
whole site yeah will fodder there's hundreds of these they're so good my rich grand and my rich

1826
02:50:40,720 --> 02:50:44,960
friend in school had this dining set but they covered everything in plastic protection so

1827
02:50:44,960 --> 02:50:53,760
this honestly strangely have seen it's like uh money does not buy taste right yeah no it really

1828
02:50:53,760 --> 02:51:01,200
doesn't uh how do you live in this i don't know i don't know i don't i'm i'm so anti clutter i

1829
02:51:01,200 --> 02:51:05,840
don't like clutter i don't like stuff in my house that i don't use and i hate like uncomfortable

1830
02:51:05,840 --> 02:51:12,560
furniture and stuff like i just don't look at how many sure look at the tiered ceiling with all the

1831
02:51:12,560 --> 02:51:20,000
pot oh yeah and then the tiny little anemic fans right in the center they don't have carpets but

1832
02:51:20,080 --> 02:51:24,400
the or they don't have like wall the wall carpets but they have carpets everywhere so you're

1833
02:51:24,400 --> 02:51:30,080
always on carpet anyways yeah rugs the rug thomas will she

1834
02:51:35,280 --> 02:51:38,400
oh my god that's such a depressing room yeah

1835
02:51:40,960 --> 02:51:45,600
this one seems okay but all those plants are probably fake but there's only there's only one

1836
02:51:45,600 --> 02:51:49,680
note on this room because it's actually kind of yeah that looks actually i'd sit neat breakfast

1837
02:51:49,680 --> 02:51:55,280
there for sure both of you are blocked but dueling chode dormers

1838
02:51:58,320 --> 02:52:04,560
i mean i mean honestly most of what's funny about this is just the commentary like i don't

1839
02:52:04,560 --> 02:52:09,920
think oh yeah no the commentary is great but these houses are also ridiculous you know what we need

1840
02:52:09,920 --> 02:52:10,800
more chairs

1841
02:52:14,480 --> 02:52:20,880
okay is it a white media thing or is that just like well okay like big ships have round Windows

1842
02:52:20,880 --> 02:52:22,720
sole patch final bonds

1843
02:52:30,640 --> 02:52:35,040
all right bigger than the house my apartment is in just the garage

1844
02:52:35,360 --> 02:52:45,600
all right okay all right all right the loneliest table yeah dude that's a classic dude giant houses

1845
02:52:45,600 --> 02:52:51,760
that just have furniture that you don't using at all like i half the cost seems to be buying the

1846
02:52:51,760 --> 02:52:56,800
house and the other half of the cost seems to be buying ostentatious furniture to occupy it look

1847
02:52:56,800 --> 02:53:02,160
how rich i am to afford this much nothing i'm like you take the badminton center and then just put

1848
02:53:02,160 --> 02:53:11,360
like a one eames chair in it ideal living room oh no more concrete though all right you put walls

1849
02:53:11,360 --> 02:53:17,280
on it hit me Dan uh yo getting some new lids i loved the live demo from last week that's why i bought

1850
02:53:17,280 --> 02:53:24,640
these uh question for mr lime what was the driving force for you to start at ncis i just

1851
02:53:24,640 --> 02:53:31,040
really hated school and i really hated the job um doing running the painting business and i just

1852
02:53:31,680 --> 02:53:39,440
was so burnt out and uh down having a trash job is a really good motivator yeah well it was a it

1853
02:53:39,440 --> 02:53:44,880
was a paid well having and needing a job that you hate yeah pretty good motivator to do something

1854
02:53:44,880 --> 02:53:48,560
else and so i was just like i don't want to do this anymore i just want to do what i want to do

1855
02:53:48,560 --> 02:53:52,960
which is talk to people about technology and get paid for it uh what i really wanted to do is work

1856
02:53:52,960 --> 02:53:59,360
in the tech room but they they want to be in sales which probably was wise hey when did i

1857
02:53:59,360 --> 02:54:07,440
alone i have a question for Linus do you see murah on the big screen beyond did you see i did when i

1858
02:54:07,440 --> 02:54:12,960
got mine and it was quite visible on mind so i ended up returning it and going for the psv

1859
02:54:13,680 --> 02:54:19,440
r2 murah i thought this was a thing but i think it seems like it's an issue with it

1860
02:54:19,840 --> 02:54:27,360
murah effect i'm actually not familiar with the term moire yeah do you mean

1861
02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:35,120
yeah mori like when i wear my looks like a fine grainy mesh that covers the entire screen it stays

1862
02:54:35,120 --> 02:54:47,360
static as the image moves behind it usually more obvious in dim scenes um i can't say that i observed

1863
02:54:47,360 --> 02:54:53,600
that screen door effect i think it's the screen door but why would you just more why would you

1864
02:54:53,600 --> 02:55:00,080
not just call it screen door effect i don't know oh okay murah just mean screen door effect uh no i

1865
02:55:00,080 --> 02:55:06,240
didn't find that it was bad on that particular one i mean anything looks bad compared to the vision

1866
02:55:06,240 --> 02:55:11,600
pro at this point but um the vision pros utility is so limited that it's i'm just kind of waiting for

1867
02:55:12,160 --> 02:55:16,880
apple's displays to make their way into into other headsets and then i can have the best of

1868
02:55:16,880 --> 02:55:21,520
both worlds i can have an actual usable headset that has a really nice screen on it yeah i didn't

1869
02:55:21,520 --> 02:55:25,360
know the screen door had a name that's pretty cool yeah i didn't know that either so now i know

1870
02:55:25,360 --> 02:55:32,400
psv r2 for pc looks pretty sick though uh good choice anonymous and last curate i got for you

1871
02:55:32,400 --> 02:55:38,480
line us i want to ask you as a question have you as someone who was born before the internet

1872
02:55:38,480 --> 02:55:43,440
have you seen an increase in general hysteria due to technology changing parts of our lives

1873
02:55:43,440 --> 02:55:47,840
so rapidly that is a measured and objective thing that has happened it's hard for me to

1874
02:55:47,840 --> 02:55:53,840
observe it though because before the internet was widespread i was 10 i wasn't paying attention to

1875
02:55:53,840 --> 02:56:00,240
hysteria fair enough um and we definitely like had hysteria i think you can map it on even stages

1876
02:56:00,240 --> 02:56:06,000
of the internet like web 1.0 2.0 3.0 yeah i think that's fair i think that has happened as well

1877
02:56:06,640 --> 02:56:14,800
you know this has happened the end of the show we will see you again next week same bad time wait

1878
02:56:14,800 --> 02:56:30,720
oh hey thanks ludie same bad channel okay bye

1879
02:56:44,880 --> 02:56:46,720
oh

1880
02:56:53,680 --> 02:56:54,720
well it's not ready yet

1881
02:57:03,200 --> 02:57:04,720
yes it's great