oh hi everyone sorry about that didn't see you there was a no that's not a thing
that's a anymore what would they say now what do the kids say was there modern
greeting how would I know that how many how many children do you think I interact
with what do you think I'm a you and isn't of the internet what's up gamers I
legitimately do need to the buzz just come from yeah we're Luke's large knee
I probably did bump something way to be Luke you know I said way to be because
there's a buzz in our ears oh oh you know sorry get it because bees buzz
busy busy look I didn't say it's a good joke I just
oh man fall behind my emails again
what happened to me recently I just went nuts and tanked for good then all the
ones oh it's back no okay
alright it's gonna be a good show today so here's the question okay one thing
you got to put that on behind you on the wall oh sick
maybe I could be the one who wears it not like an asshole well I was gonna ask
like should I take the costume off we were just memeing for like the the
whatever thing Sammy's shooting when show the wind show yeah oh I wonder who
that was thank you thanks Dan
oh Firefox pool there's a little Firefox Easter egg on the Labs website a
couple people found it it's not I mean it's not exactly hidden but every time
getting like readjusted in here it's like it's a whole thing yeah it's a whole
thing so the question was we started off by I did all the buttons up versus one
button undone versus two buttons undone and we were trying to guess like how
old I looked with each one and then it it feature crapped to this anyone who
asks how old they look is in their late 30s I'm not in my late 30s I know I'm
just saying I'm just saying anyone who asks that they're in their late 30s
because they're young enough that they can still you know try to pass for not
an old person but they're old enough to feel insecure about it that makes sense
hundred percent okay all right are we doing this well do I wear this for the
show or no I don't know it's up to you I mean it's here I don't care self all right
let's roll this show I'm doing it pre-show got to see it
oh my god well I'll be good in a bit after I two-factor multiple things and
do all the things nice wait the color show that off the I absolutely hate your
new interface look what you did like the density is so much lower now for for
what so annoying I can't even like I can't even read what any of these things
are there used to be multiple lines of text I could tell what the crap they
used to do better with the auto logoing I feel like many of your things just
don't have a logo just weird yeah oh yeah no definitely this one definitely had
an auto logo before I don't know what the deal is with this that's odd I can't
even didn't move everything around to yeah it moved everything they didn't
moved all my stuff
Google Authenticator SSL their stuff yet I don't know
who knows all I know is I'm logged in and this show is going live resuming the
selected now
what's up everyone welcome to the WAN Show we've got a great show lined up for
you guys today I forget what our title was so oh yes now I remember ah a judge
has decided that Elon Musk's statements about you know the things that their
cars were going to do and be capable of we're simply puffery which is not a
problem awesome and not fraudulent really good precedent so for advertising on
the heels of our discussion about what is or isn't a scam last week we'll be
talking about an actual scam how apparently that's legal yeah the
L2 screwdriver by the way is gonna automatically screw screws in for you
okay I don't actually okay I get what you're trying to do here but I don't
actually want to make false statements about our products they will not do
that what your smart glasses might do though is docs anyone and everyone who
happens to be near you a couple of students made an invasive DIY facial
recognition glasses system that does just that and we'll be talking about how
this could usher in a whole new level of future dystopia yay do you have any
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headline topic shall we yeah oh man a judge has dismissed a shareholder lawsuit
that alleged that Tesla had made misleading statements exaggerating the
capabilities of itself driving systems and this is where I feel like I'm about
to go off script and we're about to talk a little bit more about a personal you
know thought that I've had many times the legal system seems broken doesn't it
oh yeah it seems broken it feels like it feels like there needs to be like a
common sense filter sometimes you know where the argument could be you know
hey we're Coca-Cola yeah we hired death squads but it was outside of your
jurisdiction so what what are you gonna do about it that's an actual thing that
happened so there you go their defense literally wasn't that they didn't do it
it was that it's outside your jurisdiction so you can't charge us for it
that was the defense and I just amazing I feel like we need a common sense well
something that I genuinely don't understand about this is the whole red bull gives you wings thing yeah like they had to add the like red bull doesn't
actually give you wings yeah and like isn't there there's more of those it's
not just red bull it's like a bunch of different yeah isn't it like Skittles doesn't actually show a rainbow and they like clarify that and like McDonald's
can't say have you had your break today because nobody gets a break and you know
not in this economy take a break so you could go do gig work have you had a
break isn't it Kit Kat no dude no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
Michael up Microsoft up McDonald's okay when I was a child that was their
jingle have you had your break today huh yeah don't don't worry about it then
there was never any kind of litigation over that I was just I was making a
really terrible reference to my child yeah but essentially false advertising
claims in the past even ones that are like obvious have usually had to be
clarified however if they're it just supposed to be fun like the red bull
thing they still have to clarify and it's pretty clear that Tesla has repeatedly
repeatedly and it's got to be knowingly at this point misrepresented the
capabilities of their autonomous driving feature and I'm gonna use the world's
largest finger quotes actually I'm gonna need bigger finger quotes thank you
those are much bigger finger quotes than mine I appreciate that no problem
however the judge dismissed the lawsuit and Tesla's lawyers this is really
important Tesla's lawyers did not defend the claims that they had made on the
grounds that they were true right so they you know back to the Coca-Cola death
squads they're not defending themselves because we didn't do the thing that was
bad it's more about the loophole it's about the technicality rather they have
claimed that these statements that were not true were merely corporate puffery
the lawyers argued that vague statements of corporate optimism are not
objectively verifiable and that no reasonable investor would rely on these
statements hmm hmm how's Tesla stock doing again actually I think it's been
on a tear lately I don't don't quote me on that I don't I don't keep track of it
the judge having sided with Tesla's lawyers is therefore agreeing that a
reasonable person would have seen CEO Elon Musk's statements as obvious
bluster and exaggeration I strongly disagree I mean how many times do we
have to go through this whole yeah next year next year next year thing before it
becomes pretty clear that it's not coming next year I mean do you it's been
really interesting to watch the recent pivot to the fully autonomous robo taxi
project when that's what was promised yeah for each and every Tesla owner I
shouldn't say promised because apparently it was puffered that's what was
puffered for each and every Tesla owner years ago was that their car was gonna
make them money like their car was going to operate as a robo taxi while they
were at work making the money it was like an it was an investment I found this
website I just found it now I don't know how perfect it is I've never looked at
this website before etc but I think it's pretty fantastic actually it's called
mother frunker okay frunk and it's the full self-driving timeline I just found
this now so it's different quotes about what the cars will be able to do you
know we're gonna end up with complete autonomy and I think we will have
complete autonomy in approximately two years from 2015 with the source oh yeah
that was not two years ago you just go all the way down I really consider
autonomous driving a solved problem I think we are less than two years away
from a complete autonomy 2016 six months definitely that was back in 2016 as
well you'll be able to fall asleep in a Tesla probably be able to deliver
Teslas with autonomy in about a year that's up to the regulators yeah I know
it isn't one of the funniest things this is wild I can't believe somebody yeah I
can't believe somebody actually compiled all of this it might even be missing
some I have no idea like I don't haven't looked at the site before the thing that
I found most entertaining about this actually is that they came up at some
point they stopped tracking in 2022 I mean imagine your defense being if
someone like if someone files a lawsuit calling you a liar who misled them and
caused material damage to them imagine your defense being well obviously I
lied I lie all the time yeah how could you be stupid enough to believe me
like come on I get that there are a handful of you that are musk sick offense
and that's cool you do you but I stand behind the things that I do not
appreciate about his approach to business and lying about the capabilities
of your products and misleading people that is that is that is a scam and
scams are bad and they are not something to be looked up to and I just I don't
know how to I don't know how to have a conversation with someone where we are
not grounded in the same basic truth that being a shifty character is not good
yeah and that it's not to be applauded or respected yeah it's actually bad we
can appreciate good things that someone accomplished but we don't have to we
don't have to respect the extremely shady behavior that they engage in yeah
cool so anyway I don't I don't know how to I don't know how to reconcile this to
your point with the other with the other false advertising yeah precedent that
has been set over the years and like it's it's it's a bit of a I don't know
it's an interesting line because puffery could make sense like if you're like
oh this thing is amazing blah blah blah and it's just okay like that yeah that's
how I think puffery should be used exaggerated or false praise you know
exaggerated I think could be okay okay false I don't think no no false praise
get let me give you a context where false praise could be could be corporate
puffery okay so let's say okay I'm still CEO okay we're hypothetical scenario
okay I'm up on stage at at in the in the line of Sebastian theater you know
whatever I'm I'm talking about our latest innovation in I don't know lapel
technology or whatever color color technology sure okay and I'm standing
there and auto pop I'm I anyway so I'm I'm talking about this great this great
long-sleeve shirt that's available on the lttstore.com and and our our chief
technical officer or whatever the heck your job is these days I honestly don't
even know it doesn't matter walks up to walks up to the stage in like a scripted
moment shakes my hand and goes man Linus you look you are the you look better
than in any other outfit I've ever seen you know that that's that's that's that's
false that's false praise you know like I think my birthday suit looks a lot
better than this personally and well yeah the point is the point is that that's
not is that false praise what if you what if you actually thought that but
what if you what if you didn't it doesn't really matter this is clearly a scripted a scripted moment important yeah you are you are engaging with me in a
way that could obviously be perceived to be just kind of corporate nonsense I'm
not saying this shirt will have active cooling in two years yeah I or saying
something along the lines of like this is the most innovative shirt we've ever
made yeah that's that's just clearly exaggerated and it's puffy and it's
kind of whatever and it's non-specific doesn't really mean and I think that's
that's one of the problems and that's where I mean I think that's where someone
like a Red Bull runs into trouble they're making a very specific statement
Red Bull gives you wings which even if you don't interpret it literally you
could interpret to mean that it makes you move faster potentially right and it
is an energy beverage and so maybe yeah potentially there's methamphetamine in
it I don't know you won't slow down yeah like you could actually misinterpret
that but that's the thing with the self-driving it's not these are not vague
statements our self-driving technology is world-leading that's puffery that's
non-verifiable that's it's it's non-objective but saying go back to the
go back to the things for a sec oh well I left it so give me a sec I got a
sure this is specific
go to some of the newer stuff because the newer stuff ends up being a little
oh my goodness the newer stuff ends up being a bit more anyway the point is what
is that why can't it it's a solved problem is a very specific statement that
doesn't that doesn't mean you know we're really confident our world-class team
can solve this problem that's that's puffery you know you're you're talking
up the capabilities of your team you're you're you're engaging in the kind of
thing that if you said anything other than that could be like you know could
be potentially seen as like bullying like if you were to say anything other
than I have complete faith in my team to deliver on on this amazing new
technology like if you're like say that on a stage I mean that would be that
would be terrible the optics would be terrible so I could see corporate puffery is something that you have to say you essentially have to say that you
you believe in your plan and that the team is engaged in moving forward with
it you don't have to say let's see it will be capable of level 5 autonomy by
the end of this year that is extremely specific that's not puffery that's just
and not only are you saying that but you're saying it already has the the
hardware capability like we can we can remotely deliver this feature to you in
the thing that you already own if you buy it today like that type of stuff you
know Corey is the name says can you think of any examples in which LCT has
engaged in corporate puffery yeah yeah I look at the store I think that there
have been cases where we've had nothing nothing product specific I don't
think but like we've I've definitely said things that are that are not
necessarily true to the best of my knowledge like particularly around
someone like a like an ex-employee I would always talk up what they've done
really well I would never talk about why we parted ways whether it was was good
or bad really yeah so in that case it was more it's more down to you know
confidentiality and professionalism it's less puffery it's not really marketing
though okay so hold on have we ever have we ever pufferied in our marketing you
know what I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this back to you guys I'm gonna throw this
back to you guys no I don't think trust me bro would count as puffery I think we
have in good faith taken the best possible care of anyone who's had a
problem with our products it's not always been the most timely we're a
small team our customer support is onshore you know so we don't operate
around the clock you know sometimes in particular when we have a long weekend
or something I'm sorry that our team gets long weekends our videos our videos
a product yeah I think our I think videos are our product thumbnails is that
puffery though because the puffery here what I'm free exaggerated or false praise
though it's not it's not it's praise specifically how is saying it will have
full self-driving praise then well it's not it's not puffery that's the whole
that's the whole thing I'm mad about is that's not puffery at all that's a
specific statement about the capability of the product that could absolutely
mislead an investor or a customer okay someone to float play chat I think got
it oh there's two of them yeah I knew that was coming I knew world class is
coming I didn't want to address it I will often in fact internally the way
that I'll refer to our team is world-class is a bit of a meme we have a
world-class team in a literal sense I don't actually think it's puffery we
compete with the best in the world in the tech media space tech entertainment
tech education we we we are very very competitive around the world we are a
world-class team we have a global reach for our brand and for our content we are
a world-class team however a lot of the time I use world-class and we use
world-class team in a verbally ironic manner internally so you know someone
will leave the bathroom in a deplorable state I was gonna give the exact same
example pee all over the seat pee all over the floor well it looks like it
could be pee in the sink world-class and and the first thing that people will
start talking about on teams is world-class yeah so I don't think that's
puffery though I think I think I think okay yes it can yes it can be but
verbal irony is also not puffery in order to be puffery it has to be seen as an
earnest statement this this is where like the lines get so blurry they do get
blurry they get so blurry they do get blurry someone also pointed out world-class
employees don't have time to eat that's really funny
the busy making world-class videos another another one that was brought up by
somebody was we have a great show for you today a brought a bunch of people
brought that one up okay enjoying wancho okay yeah we say like every time yeah I
think that is an example of puffery yeah sometimes the show is gonna be and we
know it but like it's not good salesmanship to say yeah we got nothing
this week we've done it which we have found some of those shows have been
pretty good sometimes they're there yeah yeah you never know it has less to do
with the topics and it has more to do with like how much sleep either of us
had and there's that there's like there's a golden lock zone if we've had
absolutely none it's like all right getting on to our next topic yeah I'm
mad about that but if we're like yeah but but then but then like if we're
really well rested everything is pretty sane yeah so there's this like you need
a little bit of derangement yeah there's this magic zone where it's like we're
not really running on quite enough sleep and neither of us caffeinates so we just
start to get a little loopy I feel like the Japan show was like definitely one
of those oh a hundred percent with our camera operator passed out behind the
lens yeah I was worried about him yeah me too he's a tank yeah yeah okay so you
guys have definitely definitely caught us on a couple of on a couple of on a
couple of pufferies but I think when it comes to our products I know I don't
think we puffery I feel like there's there's got to be some thumbnails dude
thumbnails I don't think thumbnails are puffery though you don't you can't you
don't exaggerate the what what a praise might you don't falsely praise or
exaggerate the praise the best computer we've ever made I'm looking I'm not
there yet what do you even do even compute by the way that's a great video
go back do you not even do you not even alt left arrow what is what is your
problem there down left that's friggin awesome I watched it oh yeah yeah
cannot creator just like casually showed up at the studio Tynan did a great job
just showing him some of our some of our prototyping tools that we use there's
this sort of perception every once in a while when we actually do a video in
the workshop you'll see the odd comment that's like man they spent so much money
on this workshop they never use it they don't people don't know what we use it for and I think part of that's on us because we don't really talk about
really I've been saying for a long time we should do engineering I think we
should have a YouTube channel that has no upload cadence we commit to no
uploads but it's LMG or whatever you want to call it umbrella parent company
engineering interesting and we just show like like the the oversized screw
drivers show how we made those the the like metal screwdrivers the carbon
fiber one the wooden one all these different cool experiment things that we do we do tons of cool engineering stuff and we tell no one about it and
there are entire massive youtubers and entire massive fields of YouTube that
are entirely based around just that and we do it and we're a content creation
company and we don't show anyone and it tries to be not you're actually not
wrong and we could like I understand the pressure that the engineering teams
don't want to have of needing to churn out content and just don't make required
uploads for it but making a video makes everything take three times longer and
most of what they use this stuff for is product development yeah which would
sell products I know I know but it would take three times longer look look look
okay look Artie is on the CW team now I think that he is hard at work on
content around our in fact in fact he actually shot a video earlier this week
or we was it already who shot I think it was already who shot it was either
Artie or Sam Sammy they had a camera in front of their face the whole time and I
pretty sure it was Artie anyway he actually shot a video of our meeting
about the development of the Zuck t-shirt so as part of as part of our
development for of a gray shirt right because we wanted kind of like our the
Steve Mockneck we want we want to do a a Zuck t-shirt I'd love to do a Jensen
leather jacket as well but that's gonna be a much bigger project I don't know
how many we'd sell and it's a whole thing anyway the point is we want to do a Zuck t-shirt the Zuck and as part of our development process we kind of went
well shoot we don't know what's the shirt he wears we don't know what special
about it we don't know we don't know what t-shirt a billionaire wears this is
it we answered that question this is the packaging that a t-shirt a
billionaire wears comes in this is from Brunello Cuccinelli yeah we'll be
unboxing it later on the show we'll be destroying it later on the show yeah
because that's part of the of the you know product development process well
we'll explain what that little machine is anyway the point is I believe it was
already actually shot a video of us having the conversation evaluating this
shirt compared to our existing blanks compared to our existing cotton blanks
sort of talking about what's good about it what's not as good about it it was
pretty cool it was pretty cool and so we're trying to do more of that okay
we're trying to do more but anyway Cannot Creator did a great job Tynan did a
great job it's a really cool little tour and it gives you a better idea of what
exactly it is that we're doing with all of this really cool fabrication stuff
anyway so yeah false advertising let's go or puffery puffery yeah exaggerated or
false praise okay so actually giving you a headache but that's not it did I
literally got a headache I'm not too surprised yeah part of it is that I
forgot to drink water that day so yeah dude no it's perfect it's perfect it's
unusable but it's perfect yeah but both of those both of those are are true I
think together you can't say that's puffery I mean look if Tesla was like
our autopilot is perfect it's unusable that would at least raise questions I
mean yeah yeah that would give them plausible
deniability about the the perfect statement last PC building guide you
ever need that's not puffery that that's actually just true that is a factual
statement the first one got like 11 or 12 million views and the comments are
just full of like I just built my PC using this guide I built a PC that can't
fail yeah yeah so it's a it's a high availability PC cluster but it can't
fail it can't can't fail I mean okay all right waterproof all right that is a
slight exaggeration all right you know what you know what you've got me it took
it took a lot longer than I thought we had to go back months I thought it was
gonna be pretty quick but the praise the praise part makes it difficult yeah
which I still don't understand because it wasn't the Elon statements weren't
praise no they were just here's what we're going to do this is the plan we'll
have this feature on this if you can't believe the CEO of a company about the
product roadmap then who can you believe and I can well I don't think you can
ever believe anyone about any product timeline because no one actually knows
but like I think there's also got to be some some amount of a limit to things all
right why do we move on because I'm bored oh hey we've got Riley here I I
forget I totally forgot I'm so sorry Riley I came to puff I came to puff up
something of my own check it out check out check us out guys what is what is
this again I forget where Jakey Jakey Jakey and Jakey attorneys at law thank
you am I am I yelling into this thing don't hold like this I forget it's
and address yeah yeah you're good I Dan Dan said he could give me tan said he
could give me a chair but I decided to just come squad in here awkwardly because
I forgot the chair sorry it is truly awkward forgot I like it though do we
have an apple box this light is really bright don't don't look at that it's
not it's too late Riley no Riley Linus did you know that it was Riley weak on
Floatplane I did know that it was really weak on Floatplane this week did you
know that I did a backflip for you I know that you cannot do a backflip whoa
you don't know that that's anti-puffery that's puffery I watch the Star Wars
video is really good I really like did you watch the whole thing I heard you were watching it it's fantastic who said that I think Sammy told me I liked it
I liked it a lot well I thought it was okay Sammy told me that it took 10
million years to edit that's some free it took a long time because it wasn't
praise yeah yeah no I mean it took a long time it took my not gonna lie I
stayed up all night a couple nights to get the script done and to do the
guidance you didn't did you really I won't go all the way I don't know I don't
know where your mouth is you've been puffing up a lot of things so oh this
is when show we got to keep it appropriate listen Riley week is is over
now there were three videos right yeah did you guys watch it any of them
except the Star Wars I watched Star Wars I didn't watch any of them yet it's okay
okay it's okay I mean on the Q&A you probably just know all of them yeah if
I want to talk to Riley I just talked to Riley cuz he's right there we we
match almost every day I was waiting for the Star Wars one so was I I was
excited but I don't know what else to to say other than go subscribe to Flow
Plane which you guys already say like five times an episode so I just kind of
this is okay this is cool I can make what is this shadow puppets is this just
is this just is this just marketing for Flow Plane is that the whole point yeah
if you could just keep switching back and forth to Flow Plane there that would
be pretty cool okay so yeah that's about Riley week among our other
exclusives why do you guys ever use the space back here there's a lot you could
do some you can do some activities the lights have to go down I got like talk
linked and we don't have a mic that's on a you know freely moving I know I
thought that this was gonna be more of a handheld thing but this like this feels
feels wrong it's two hands it's a two-hander yeah there you go it's a
spy hinder she buy hinder I don't think anyone but yeah yeah definitely for sure
it's a weapon knocking it out of the park Riley what's your next topic I don't
know are you are you joining us for the show like a stool students make
invasive DIY facial recognition glass man yeah that that's pretty scary yeah we
talked about that on TechLinked this week oh yeah dude what do you want me to
go yeah I don't know what we're doing are you joining us for part of the show
like the car is waiting for me to go review TechLinked right now but like
bring him wait because no I'm not gonna do you want to read the tier read the
topic really yeah students make in I'm not gonna read the whole topic make
invasive DIY facial recognition glasses I'm gonna summarize it okay because we
reported on this on TechLinked some students from Harvard okay fine I'll
just read it to Harvard students set up a system that uses a video feed from
their meta smart glasses to automatically scan the faces of strangers
identify them and compile dossiers of personal information such as jobs
personal associations phone numbers and addresses while the system made the
occasional error notably it once flagged a young woman as her identical twin
oops broken awkward throw it out the students were able to use this system
to approach several strangers and greet them by name while pretending to be an
acquaintance or a fan of their work how creepy would that be I mean it's
happened I found LA is actually the worst for that this is what's funny it's
like it's like hey you want to feel what it's like to be famous for a second or to
be a upper mid-tier YouTube celebrity the students have published a paper
detailing their experiment which they say was intended as a demonstration of
what is already possible with current technology tech giants like Google and
meta have to consider putting facial recognition into smart glasses in the past and they and they have Google has dismissed the idea due to safety and
legal concerns after public after making a product already but that's here
whereas meta's reasons for not pursuing it are unclear meta has not yet committed
to not using the footage or images from their smart glasses for use in data
scraping or AI training I mean that's all screwed the actually Riley that is the
as in as in the whole like oh don't use it for AI training everything is being
used for AI training already yeah they've essentially said the opposite
Zuckerberg on a podcast thingamajigger said that he wants you to have personal
AIs that are powered by things like the glasses that they have context of
everything in your life yeah but like that's one thing because it's your
personal AI I think a lot of people are probably okay with you feeding if it's
encrypted and everything oh yeah if you like you feed your data into a
personal AI and no one ever gets it except you yeah it's not gonna happen I
feel like the lighting on my face is perfect for this story it's like
dystopian yeah it kind of is like I am your personal AI your two-face I mean
okay what else do we have to say I feel like this was actually a good topic you
guys should continue discussing it but I have to go review tech link okay okay
really have to go I can't stay we could bring you a laptop okay do it behind
the set what's that you want to just have a laptop you could do it there you
can review it on yeah you just hide behind the laptops I think next I think
next show I'll come back and I'll be back here and you guys probably won't know until I say something okay nice workplace okay all right thank you Riley love
you subscribe to full plane yeah all right my favorite website thank you
Riley yeah enjoy you guys can't do this when he's bear-crawling oh okay thank
you very much Riley that was great I was you never know what's gonna happen when
Riley walks into the room yeah but that actually was a perfect example of
puffery yeah it's my favorite website which is fine which is there's a near
zero percent chance that's true yeah exactly who cares but that's obvious yeah
and that's the thing puffery should be obvious and it doesn't matter yeah all
right so let's come back to these smart glasses this is what's funny about this
topic to me is that you and I have actually talked about this many times in
the past and it's close to the whole time we've known each other and if you go
back far enough because Luke and I both suffer from some form of undiagnosed
face blindness slash oh yeah just complete inability to remember people's
names and we have talked about this many times in the past how what would
ultimately sell us going all the back to like the launch of Google Glass what
would ultimately sell us on this technology would be if it could serve as
like a Rolodex essentially when you're at a party or social function or a work
event and it'll just tell you okay that's who that is bring up the last
email that I exchanged with them tell me like how many kids they have so I can
ask how their kids are doing and if you go back far enough you and I were naive
enough slash the world hadn't distended into distended descended into dystopia
enough that we were actually bullish on it and wanted it now I read about this
thing that I asked for that I wanted because it would be really helpful to
me in my daily life and I look at my go holy this is this is fucked we're
fucked everything's fucked yeah well because I think the thing that we were
wrong about and I think a lot of people including us were wrong about these
types of things or that we we thought it was gonna be ours like the whole Rolodex
idea yeah that you knew these people yeah you were essentially inputting this
information it was checking locally to your information and then letting you
know and that's just not gonna be what it is because data makes the world go
round so instead of it being yours it's gonna be zucks or whoever else is and
you're gonna be checking in to their information and to giving them more
information also known as updated facial recognition information for these
people to make sure that it's more accurate and any data and analysis that
you're able to scrape from that moment is gonna go up as well I also didn't I
also didn't think about at that time maybe I was just younger and more naive
right like I didn't think about an authoritarian government using this
technology oh yeah to keep track of absolutely everyone and where they go
and what they do and police officers or whoever else yeah because they already
have it in cameras so that's not really new but this would be yeah given to
police officers facial recognize figured if they have like outstanding warrants
or whatever else and but it's not just like the outstanding warrants like this
could tell suspect level all kinds of stuff all kinds of stuff about people
right comes down to we have another topic that we'll talk about later but
it's the minority report thing yeah like buddy here buddy here frequency you
know the the the CD theater you know on 6th Street and and that might and and
and that might be factually true right but that could activate someone's
prejudices you know what I mean so it's not like I don't even mind if it
scans someone it's like there's an outstanding warrant for their arrest
that's actually reasonably helpful it's one like say there's a say there's a
riot going on because every time that there's a riot there's some people that
are you know involved with the bad things in the riot and other people just trying to get away and it's like that will be voted for Hillary Clinton and
based around whatever so she has an increased likeliness of being one of
the people that is involved with yeah damaging of cars so arrest her even
though you didn't see it happen yeah yeah like dude that that level of that
level of and if you think if you think law enforcement doesn't profile it does
they do they 100% profile and you give them more and more tools to profile we
are I don't know if I want to live on this planet anymore you know I had a
conversation recently where I was I was I mentioned that I I want to die on
Mars and I was like yeah that that just increases over time handyman says to be
fair I think you should mention the stories kind of exaggerated since you can already achieve this using your mobile phone camera any kind of camera
it's basically just calling third-party services and and we did acknowledge
that it already exists that's their whole point is that this already exists but
it's the form factor that's scary because somebody can walk into a bathroom
wearing a pair of glasses you can't walk into a bathroom with your phone out
streaming data to some third-party you know image identification service
unless your name is ghee whatever is whatever his last name is yeah I don't
know yeah like like no no this is the no cool person walks into a bathroom with
their camera out that's a pretty normal looking pair of glasses glasses that's
what's scary about it and the fact that you're right this is just totally a
thing that already exists is exactly their point they're not they're not
developing this as a product they're not even trying to they're not even releasing what they've done and to your point what they've done is not a huge
technical achievement all they did was take off the shelf stuff and hook it
into other off-the-shelf stuff but that's the point right now today you could
have someone walking around it disorderly says but you can buy a spy camera
that looks like a penny clip into your pocket yeah absolutely but it's the it's
the ease yeah it's the ease and it's the integrations and it's the it's the it's
the smoothness of the workflow like if you just have a pen a pen if you just
have a pen camera sticking out of your pocket and what you have to ultimately
do is like go home at the end of the day and and ingest that footage and then
crunch it on your like you know multi GPU server cluster and it you know
retroactively go back and figure out who you interacted with that day like
that's what we'd be talking about 10 years ago right that wasn't that scary
but this whole real-time you know how many kids do you have and what are their
names and you know where did you go to school but that's that's scary I still
want the local Rolodex thing where like you have to input the information of the
people but then that doesn't even work because I'm sure there's just gonna be
databases you can download you can you can use it that data will leak yeah all
all data all data will leak leaky data it's our new leaky condos leaky data
I'm just saying it's a it's a it's a widespread problem leaky data it's gonna
cause all kinds of trouble dude you see 23 and me is in trouble oh that whole
data set's gonna end up with someone I'm so sure I'm so thrilled that relatives
of mine have used these services and I'm so excited about that yeah really thank
you thank you for that yeah and like every time we talk about that this kind
of stuff and what we'll have people in the audience that are like yeah but like
legally insurance providers can't use that data and the guys laws change laws
change the only people ignore them yeah that too that too if laws mattered then
we wouldn't be where we are today I can pretty much guarantee you every single
person in this building currently has broken the law at least once sure I
probably sped in my car on the way here today I probably did as well yeah
probably for sure yeah and and like that that's the thing right so you know
whether it's so just to give some insight on that I bet you every single
person that drove in BC did yeah our no one follows the speed limits here are
where it would be dangerous if you did I watched a really interesting
documentary like ages ago I've looked for it multiple times and I haven't been
able to find it so it must have been pulled off of YouTube or something it must have been copyrighted but it was basically like an investigation into our
speed limits and why they're too low and why it's like actually dangerous and
it just they just need to go up and how the provincial government just ignores
it for the most part yeah really interesting it's wacky man you'll be
driving with a police car behind you following the pace of traffic like 20
kilometers an hour above the speed limit police cars not lighting you up and
they'll like go around yeah they'll also get frustrated because you're actually
going too slow yeah it's just like what what is this like what oh man what a
joke anyways yeah kaseul the cat in Floatplane chat says it land this is
such an example this is such a great example of how laws are are often so
sort of myopic in their in their in their implementation goes legally I can't
ask age in a job interview because that could lead to age-based discrimination
I added them the end part there so I ask when you graduated from college it's
like yeah you make a law sometimes with a really solid intent age-based
discrimination that's bad okay but people are gonna people are gonna find a
way around it they're gonna find a way to you know technically either they're
gonna just do something illegal in a way that where they're not gonna get caught or they're gonna find out they're gonna find a loophole they're gonna find a
way to technically get around it it's just our data is not gonna be protected
these products are absolutely going to end up in nefarious hands and I'm so
uncomfortable with it yeah and then out of the other side of my mouth I talk
about how I want to do like automated scorekeeping at the badminton center and
how we could use facial recognition to track people's gameplay and you know
whatever else right in fairness to me I trust myself to store that data only
locally on site but maybe I shouldn't and that still doesn't technically mean
that it's invulnerable and it doesn't and and and and it you know I hate to
open this can of worms again but let's say that you know I died or I sold the
company or whatever else there might be an expectation not laughing because he
I'm laughing because I realized the can of worms that he's mentioning these
opening my bad my bad my point is that that that data sitting there could be
seen as a treasure trove by whoever you know inherits or or purchases that
business and you saw what happened with the servers at NCX yeah like this
happened the thing the hypothetical that I'm talking about right now actually
happened at NCIX the owner didn't die but the data was not managed correctly and
people who ended up with servers from the auction ended up with customer data
from the auction that yeah that absolutely happened
all right
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fix it with how they feel about your precision screwdriver
um yes I I'm not really sure I'm not really sure what to make of it are you
saying about the tweet no oh no no I'm talking about I'm talking about an
email that came through after we talked about it on the after we talked about it
on the wanshow basically we got an email yeah you know what screw it we got an
email from their agency saying that they are going to be pausing our
relationship they provided some reasons for that that are like whatever I told
our team they they agreed to continue throughout the rest of the month of
October but I I told the team if they want out we shouldn't force them to work
with someone that they don't want to work with so if it's you know if it's the
reasons they stated then you know cool they can keep going or whatever or if
it's different reasons and they're not comfortable working together you know
that's fine basically what I what I left off with was we take our partnerships
seriously we want to maintain positive working relationships with everyone who
shares our passion for repairable technology just tell them take their time
we'll be here when they're ready I'm good or whatever I mean we're we're at a
scale right now where no one sponsor can do anything which is impact us important
which is which is super important and and to be clear guys there could be
totally totally unrelated business reasons or whatever right like I don't
want you guys to pass any kind of judgment but we have heard back from
them not about this like not in response to any questions we just heard from the
agency so so that's that's where we're at transparency transparency no I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna tell the reasons because that's that's their personal
biz right so yeah but but they're what I will say is they they sound like
perfectly plausible business reasons so I'm not there's there's no judgment here
I just want to make it clear that from our side we have no intention of forcing
them to fulfill any kind of pre-agreed contractual obligation if they want out
then I have absolutely no problem with that and if they ever want to if they
ever want to work with us in the future then the door is 100% open but if I were
you I wouldn't expect to see a ton of iFixit sponsorships on Linus Media
Group properties you'll probably still see their products show up from time to
time like I've said over and over and over again we like the products we love
the mission we consider them an ally and so it is what it is well all right then
next up yeah get some announcements out of you first oh wait no don't we have
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hilarious shot of Dennis they've definitely been having some fun with the
photo shoots lately massive shout out the team this is great actually it's dope
oh man I love it
Tachan, Sherrod, yeah I love the posed ones yeah I actually I'm kind of I'm kind
of loving it yeah these look great yeah do groups of people posed in in in things
the office attire has actually been a shockingly big mover for us just like
something that's just yeah that's just is there even a logo with us oh yeah very
subtle yeah here I can switch to the loot cam if you can show the people the
logo oh yeah it's in there somewhere yeah we want to you know we want to we want
people to be able to rep the brand without like feeling uncomfortable if the
hour if their workplace doesn't allow logos or whatever else yeah it's just
just quality product trust me real guarantee all that good stuff the cargo
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pay your staff for modeling we actually don't it's completely voluntary it's on
it's during your shift oh yeah so we do pay so you get yeah your hourly yep and
it's and it's completely voluntary if people want to do it then that's totally
cool so everyone who ever posed like in their underwear did so because they were
like I'm gonna pose in my underwear let's go oh you usually or often or always I
forget the exact rules I think you get to keep the thing that you modeled as
well so yeah it's just if you feel like it and you want to and you want to like
rep the brand you want to be on the site then you can do that or otherwise you
don't have to there is absolutely no pressure whatsoever to model the merge
yeah and I just I think it's so cool that people volunteer I think it's so
cool that the models on our site are actual people who actually work on
actual stuff here so like Thomas works for a creator warehouse in engineering
he's working on a cat toy right now oh among other things that I can't talk
about but the cat toy is like a low-prior thing that he's working on
yeah charade from the business team Tatiana from the career warehouse fashion
team like these these people these are the people who actually you know bring
you the content I love that when I clicked him he was actually they were
like making an icon you gotta look at yourself oh boy yeah so I think that
really I think that really sets our I think that really sets our site apart
from a lot of other like merch stores we wear the product and it clearly people
want it enough that they're willing to you know they're willing to pose with it
for just to own it so so can you stand up to show shirts like cool oh yeah go
all right you're welcome all right what are we supposed to do Dan you still got
some announcements unless you want to say oh I have more announcements oh yeah oh good gravy a mod mat signups we are another week closer to the launch of the
LTT mod mat to get notified right when it launches sign up at LMG GG slash mod
mat I really hope that actually goes where it's supposed to go cool that's
good also okay this is big want to shout out ghost keyboards last week I kind of
gave them a hard time for publicly misrepresenting an endorsement from me
of their product because that never happened but they made it seem like it didn't need blast to their customers anyway I don't want to I don't harp on
that right now because they have in my opinion done everything that is that is
right and reasonable for them to do to make it right they publicly posted what
feels like an actual sincere apology taking responsibility for misrepresenting
the situation taking action to make this right for anyone who bought the keyboard
based on a perceived endorsement from me they have offered an extended refund
window to anyone who purchased the keyboard in question during the time
that they had that promotion running so guys apology accepted thank you very
much I am I am extremely pleased that we can just move forward in a positive
fashion so yeah yeah thank you topgear 1224 other companies take note this this
is how you deal with it we messed up we take responsibility here's what we're
doing to make amends we're gonna learn from our mistakes sincerely boom thank
you yeah you guys you guys you guys made it right and I appreciate that I you
know I don't think you should have done that in the first place but look the
past has to be in the past at some point and that point is now all right Dan
what's next all right I got one more message for you with some doing some more topics when dot DLL Linus you're a big fan of the Apple AirPods even though
you use an Android would you recommend it to other people what are the biggest
issues you've had that I need to know before doing the same this is the
announcement but do I use an Android though don't this is my new phone this
is the first time you've told them no no I've talked about how I'm gonna go
iPhone actually haven't set it up yet I tried earlier this week and it erred out
because I moved around in the office and I think I went I think I swapped two
different AP and so the transfer erred out and I had to reset it again so I'm
gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna get switched to it very very very soon it's it's living in the pocket it's gonna happen when I have a free moment I'll get the
transfer wizard done but overall there's there's some annoyances like the fact
that there's no official app to change the functionality of the long press that's
kind of annoying I don't know if it's just because my phone is really old but
the the performance of the AirPods when they're paired to an iPhone is so much
better compared to when they're paired to my Note 9 like on my Note 9 if I flip
on the microwave to pop some popcorn or whatever I basically can't hear anything
if I'm standing anywhere near it because of the 2.4 gigahertz interference
from microwaves but if I have it paired to my iPhone 12 Pro which was my like
utility iPhone that I had and that I will occasionally have them paired to
it's like almost flawless it's not flawless because interference but it's
way better like world's better you know not having battery monitoring I guess
is kind of a drag but I just charge them every day I've been using like I just
don't really care AirPods with Android the whole time and I don't know yeah just
plug them in yeah it just really doesn't doesn't bother me that much I rarely
need them for more than four hours in a row at a time so the actual you know
battery life of the AirPods themselves and they charge so fast when they're in
the charging case it just I don't know and they charge in the charging case so
just plug the charging case in most of the quality of life issues really don't
seem like a huge deal there is one really nice thing when you're when you're
on an iPhone and you take them out it'll pause you take one out it'll pause you
take two out and it'll just automatically switch to the phone speaker because it knows you don't have either of them in whereas on my Android phone it's
a lot fat that it'll just play through them then again just playing through them
on my Android phone is how I found them when I left them somewhere in the house
I turned the volume up and then I was able to find them but then again if I had
an iPhone I could just use the find my feature so I don't know I don't it's all
good I I like them I still I really like them but there are some really solid
alternatives so you know by all means check out pixel buds check out galaxy
buds I've heard the latest generation galaxy buds are really good but I haven't
tried them
CompTIA revoked Linus is a plus certification question mark question mark
question mark
how could they know they didn't what yeah so I think they type I think they
type of the thing here's my here's my here's my a plus certification so I'm
gonna here if I read this out can you verify sure what what link do I have to
is it in the dock okay my candidate ID is comp 00 on it are you am I supposed to
do you are you are you doing okay Luke you okay Luke are you okay okay I got it
okay I thought you wanted me to actually type in it comp 001 yeah 022 yeah 462
yeah 766 oh wait they totally entered it right yeah okay I'm confused now did
they revoke it then because I thought Chewie said what you didn't check well
no Chewie said Chewie told me they didn't and he said that he replied to the
thing that they didn't and then that but that it wasn't getting a lot of
traction and so I was supposed to talk about it on the WAN Show yeah the
verification code oh oh hold on apparently apparently this is the
verification code okay well the verify com to your org hold on hold on here we
go the verification code alright sly foe they missed a letter yeah active there
you go so no no they did not apparently the the use okay so I gave you the
candidate ID so what what what code is this five piece of oh oh it's the code
at the bottom here yeah yeah I see it not the candidate ID so yeah no here's
my here's my framed a plus that I still have for now look at you dude yeah I know
right people who trust the videos now yeah yep it's good we needed this my
bros they can trust me yeah yeah yeah alright yep well as my product that
showed up defective we can be taken care of I think so he's got an a plus
certification yeah a plus a plus that's the that's the grade yeah it's like a but
better sounds like you should probably trust him bro it's Canadian it's it's
enhanced Canadian a plus sorry we should maybe do something else now C plus plus
is just D hey look Amazon's doing dark patterns again legacy customers with
Amazon's ring alarm system will soon have to pay double for its monitoring
service according to email sent to ring protect plus customers they will be
migrated to the pro plan in March which costs $200 a year as opposed to $100 a
year that's an increase that's double the number of hundreds of dollars a year
that's yeah that's bad yes one of those customers happens to be verge writer
Sean Hollister who found it strange that Amazon's email started with this is
your reminder as it's the first time yeah he did manage to find an FAQ that
claimed that customers had been emailed about the change in September of 2021 but
he then dug up the relevant email whose subject line read important your plan
name has changed in the body of the email it read don't worry everything else is
staying the same the actual notifications that the planet itself would be phased
out and migrated to ring protect pro was located in a small footnote at the
bottom of the email that is skeezy you know if they if they got the upgrade for
free then sure other ring users have posted emails from Amazon on Reddit
which have the heading new name new features same great price these emails
then go on to note that their subscription will no longer include alarm
professional monitoring and SOS emergency response Amazon has not given a
reason for the price increase this is flipping wild here's some screenshots
this does not sound like a price increase here's a here's a question for you
here's a question is this puffery I mean apparently apparently that's throwback
to our first topic yeah you were just joining us yeah that's a massive yikes
this sucks I wait what is happening down there that's the deep red spot I don't
I don't know what it is okay I I don't know how to deal with this because we've
talked about this fairly recently actually where I basically said look a
contract should be a contract and you shouldn't be able to unilaterally change
it and the response to that is well from a legal standpoint the contract is
auto renewing on a monthly basis and every month it's a new contract so
they're just they're just giving their customers a new contract the problem
with that logic though is that in my mind there's an implicit there's an
implicit long-term expectation for anything with an upfront cost that we
are that we are not in fact on a month-to-month deal here where you can
change it anytime you want and for something like a security system that
upfront cost is a lot more than just you know a few hundred dollars on on a
camera here in there it could be creating a workflow around it it could be
training people on how to use it it could be the time that you invest in
installing it once you're once you're in this ecosystem it's actually a hugely
friction the point is that it can be a lot of work to get out of it and so if
all you have is this you know month-to-month agreement that can just be
changed unilaterally by the provider at any time what is your protection what
is the point of having a contract and I don't know how to deal with this because
yeah you can't you can't force you can't force a company to maintain the same
terms of service in the same pricing model in perpetuity that's not fair or
right either but you also can't be in a situation where freaking everything is
like negotiating with Darth Vader I have altered the deal pray I don't alter
it for the well why but I'm stuck in this deal yeah I'm Lando what if it
what if I think we've had these conversations before but what if what if
you were offered a full refund at that moment like hey this subscription cost
is doubling we're gonna actually tell you properly instead of trying to hide it
to be clear let's make that major change and then offer you a refund because I
understand the initial buy-in thing is is rough but I can also understand where
like you know market conditions might change they might need to charge more for the upkeep and maintenance of something but if that's the case do they
just offer to essentially buy back your product I think I think if they buy back
the product I'm okay yeah I mean Google did that with Sadia I wasn't mad yeah
like if you're if you if you can't afford if it's not if it's no longer
sustainable for you to offer me the service that you offered me at the price
that we that would the price that we all agreed on then by all means here you
can you can take your take your stuff back and I'll I'll take my money you can
say as much as you want about how like they all well they should have scoped it
in better and like understood their costs and stuff like that and that's all
farewell and good when you're talking about things without doing things but
when you start doing things you run into this problem where basically every
company if they want to be competitive have to operate on economies of scale so
when you're developing something you have to assume some amount of scale and
price into that and if you don't reach that scale it might not be economically
viable anymore but at that point like it's not your customer's fault that it
isn't economically viable yeah that's not their problem so you got to buy back
your devices squirrel king makes a really great point here like let's pretend
that an employment contract worked like this would you accept that would you
accept an employment contract that was essentially a month-to-month contract
that they could just change at any time I guess employment contracts don't but
contract contracts sort of do depending on the terms usually they max at a year
and then you have to renegotiate they can but that's more that's a little more complicated because a lot of the time a contractor can also make the argument
that if they're fulfilling the role of an employee that they that they should be
considered an employee and their protections should be employee grade
protections as opposed to just contract protect protections yeah like there's
no I don't think people would accept that and so if we don't accept that you
know that we could just be paid less if our employer decides arbitrarily this
month that will be paid less well then obviously I agree with that to be clear
but it's I'm just I'm trying to think of scenarios where that does happen and I
guess it happens on a company level but I don't think it normally happens on an
individual level like if we if we have a some form of work contract with some
company yeah it's very likely that it might be a shorter term renewing contract
yeah yeah but probably that's company to company that's not person to company
or person to person but usually person to person there's more protections and
yeah and I'm talking about like consumer consumer protections yeah yeah yeah
like protections for the individual it just feels like we've ignored them for
so long yeah and I I'm tired of it Lena Khan dude she's doing work
it's gonna get a little bit better all right what else we got anyway Amazon bad
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message time apparently yeah hit me Dan LDL hoping you can settle an argument
I've been saying for the more yes I've been saying for the non-gamer Intel and
AMD waited too long to release HEDT chips and Apple now dominates that space
with the Mac Studio thoughts no all right next question well I think should we say
a little bit more about it correct okay so okay okay I think I think the bigger
the bigger thing that happened to the HEDT market is that the high-end consumer
chips kind of took their place I mean you can get a Ryzen 9950X which has 16
flipping cores they're they're ripping fast there's N5 and you can put that on
a commodity AM5 motherboard I believe some of them even support ECC memory even
if it's unofficial does Ryzen 9000 still support ECC I actually did not look
into that I'm gonna have a look yes they all support ECC memory with the caveat
that it requires motherboard support is that different than the 7000 series yeah
okay so it seems to seems to still be a thing the point is that if you want a if
you want like a random like affordable workstation you don't have to go to high
end desktop and the only real reason to go Threadripper Pro to go to go for a
true high-end desktop oh right then on the Intel side you've got like their 24
core chips at the high end of their consumer models so the only real reason
to go high-end desktop would be if you need like Mondo memory bandwidth which
admittedly the Mac Studio is gonna do a great job of especially if your workload
benefits from sharing that memory between the CPU and GPU or if you need a
whole bunch of PCIe expansion which the Mac Studio doesn't address at all so I
I don't think the Mac Studio is really up against ATGT at all I think it's up
against high-end consumer and high-end consumer is anything but dead that's not
dead at all with that said I think that Apple has kind of killed their own
workstation market a little bit I I was actually I was thinking of pitching this
to Horst as a Mac Address video like I think the biggest damage Apple has
probably done to their to their M silicon lineup is by making the M1 series
too good I have not talked to a single person running a first-gen M series Mac
who's like yeah I really need something newer and I'm sure there's people who are
like like hardcore into at like music production how old are you on max at this
point sorry like four or five years old now hardcore into music production or who
does a lot of you know rendering work or whatever else who legitimately like needs
a better one but in terms of general consumers which let's face it there's a
lot of Apple's customers even though they put pro at the end of everything M1
series is like yeah Dwin Len says yeah I'm still on M1 and it's great yeah 2020
apparently it was 2020 yeah my M1 max Mac Studio is still kicking butt J5 says
M1 fucks yeah dude there's just there's Apple keeps kind of coming out and be
like yeah we've got new M silicon and and it's really great and if I was buying a new
Mac because I like didn't have one I would I'd get the new one or whatever I
think I think that type of life cycle is just becoming a thing for all computers
now I think that's you know I realized the other day my dad who still plays you
know not necessarily the most demanding games but he plays any game that he
wants yeah that comes out new whatever Sandy Bridge Wow
okay the point where I never realized the point where you're a bad son it was
never a problem you know which one it is too it's the one you gave him for doing
the whole room water cooling no way yeah that's kind of sick yeah because I was
like wait what wait like why would you even have that and then I looked in this computer I was like if Rob needs an upgrade also by the way I have literally
given him one he just hasn't built the computer yet never mind okay because he
wants to do this like I haven't had the heart to really tell him that Tynan
already did it but he wants to do a like hard copper piped cooled system and
he's like designing it all and all that's cool with one of the actually one of
the members of community that was one of the whales at whale land that's designing
it with him okay it's gonna be this like sick thing so he hasn't bothered to
upgrade his platform or stuff yet because the games that he plays doesn't really need it anyways and because he's waiting to do like an epic build yeah I
mean all copper builds have been done many times I don't think it matters that
it's not like this I don't want to spoil it but he's got this like specific design
element that he wants to tie in which is like genuinely really cool so super
cool Luke's dad aimed the ultimate tech upgrade look I can't I can't
you know make sure he gets one but I think I think if you I think if you
threw him in the thing I mean he's he's done some stuff for us behind the
scenes I don't know I don't know you know what I don't want to I'm not in
charge of that yeah we'll see if the rule makers are cool clear it with the
powers that be clear with the powers that be I'm fine with it though that's
what I'll say I'll say that hey Luke Dan and Linus was there a point in the
business where you ever questioned where you wouldn't be able to keep promises
that you had made to anyone inside or outside the company that's a hilarious
question remember the whole trust me bro backpack warranty controversy yeah yeah
that was like that was a big part of what it's based around that's that's the
whole that's the whole thing where I was like okay we should we should really
thoughtfully craft something that will be enduring and that will capture the
spirit of you know what what I would do if I was still around but also not be you
know an albatross hanging around the neck of someone that might you know
inherit or purchase the company or whatever else and it turns out that what
people actually wanted was just a generic like warranty statement that
basically just allows us to weasel out of anything and they were happy with it
and I was like okay bye sure oh wait I'm not allowed to say that okay bye you know
I think as well like these days I mean we have we have proven that the company
has a lot of resiliency these days yeah but in the really early days I think we
were all somewhat doing that to each other just be like no we're fine it'll
be okay we're fine these this new dad or big risk that we've taken or whatever is
fine and then you know a few years in it ended up being true but I think at the
beginning we were all somewhat you know if you reassure each other enough times
you're kind of reassuring yourself yeah I mean there were definitely times in
the first six months that you know I told Luke and Ed okay we got this let's go
let's go let's go and I wasn't a hundred percent sure if we had this but I was
sure as heck gonna do my best that might have been some puffery yeah exactly yeah
back to the back to the backpack thing for a second my point my point was
always just that the will of the company to honor the warranty is everything and
the exact terms are sort of immaterial and I think that we've seen this time and
time again since I said that so now you guys have a written warranty statement
but if you carefully read it it's basically at our discretion if we do
anything and if you read anyone else's warranty it's the same it's basically at
their discretion because a warranty exists as legal liability but covering
that's why that's why it's written it's not for you it's there for the company
it's not there for you yeah and there's a lot of things that are true that way and
if they pay more attention I don't know what else to say I get shot as a
messenger a lot I don't know whatever but yeah just like stop stop assuming like
yeah I don't know company companies aren't here to make you happy that's a
hopefully intended byproduct of them making money mr. blonde 42 says a
limited warranty limits the customers rights not the companies yeah and and
what's actually really interesting is we did a video recently I don't know if
we've actually uploaded it yet or if I don't or if I've watched it but you guys
haven't seen it yet oh no I think you guys have seen this one where there's
this memory it's the buying the worst products the worst products one the
memory comes with a limited lifetime warranty and then if you actually dig
into the warranty which is not available anywhere on their site but Tom's
hardware asked them for it when they covered the the brand I forget what the
brand is but it's in that video within the first year you get a brand new
replacement after the first year for the next two years you get a refurbished
replacement and then after that they charge you to fix it but my favorite so
if you told me you have a lifetime warranty but after a couple of years it
basically meant give me that water bottle oh it's broken okay that'll be
$25 for a new water bottle is that is that a fucking warranty my my
technically legally it is that's a warranty yeah my favorite limited
lifetime warranties are when they're limited lifetime warranties only on
manufacturer defects yeah so it's like if you don't notice a manufacturer defect
for years yeah we'll cover it but it's like what do you even mean yeah I don't
the warranty for the backpack is like yeah it doesn't cover wear and tear so
literally it's a lifetime warranty on that when it you first got it it's good
so if you never removed it out of the box and you kept the box in a yeah
temperature and environmentally controlled chamber and then opened it in
20 years maybe you know and there's a defect with it or something people had
no idea what they were asking me for yeah and you know what I handled it poorly
oh yeah let's go poor handling yeah yeah like yeah I did not explain it well
and realistically we should have just you dug your heels in we should just give
them a warranty we should have just we should have just had the stupid meaningless piece of paper for you just done both you should have given the
warranty first and then been like by the way it doesn't matter what matters is
this other stuff we probably should have a lot of things yeah you know at that
time at that time I think the CW team was like seven people or something like
that maybe even less and we didn't have we literally still don't we still don't
have a lawyer on staff no right like we we didn't have a ton of experience doing
that stuff wouldn't have enough work for them but it does suck sometimes oh I
know a hundred percent I just mean like I'm looking at it going like it was it
just it just wasn't a priority because we knew that if there was a problem we
were gonna take care of it and I get it you know you guys wanted assurance it's
just that what we gave you wasn't assurance the only assurance we gave you
was our word and also this worthless piece of paper Alan I don't know if this
is true or not but Alan in full plain chat says lifetime is the expected
lifetime of the product as defined by the manufacturer not the lifetime of the
that's true I didn't even know that yeah it's complete nonsense and it's
complete nonsense and it's and to be clear some companies are really good
about it yeah like they will honor stuff well beyond what is what is actually
usually it's companies honoring things beyond the warranty it's not yeah yeah
or they have like an agreement which isn't technically a warranty yeah Neen
exists as it's a lifetime warranty when it wears out or is broken the lifetime
is up so the warranty has run out genius yeah I love it anyway we got you oh
interesting Ben Mitchell said lifetime fluids in cars equals a warranty
period a BMW lifetime fluid in a gearbox is 50,000 miles wow yeah the wording of
things is so crazy sometimes yeah man that's hilarious all right yes Dan
sure I got one more hey guys was wondering what are your thoughts on
continuous returns by a laptop at Costco play for 90 days return get brand new
one is that bad e-waste wise I'm pretty sure it's fraud it's called friendly
fraud or retail fraud so have fun with that pay your taxes or don't what do
you guys think about not paying your taxes ever if I never pay them they
can't find me they won't know I exist and free housing and run don't be
surprised if you eventually do get put on a persona non grata list you may
not be welcome to shop at Costco forever if you do that look I am not gonna lie
to you I have taken advantage of generous return policies before I shouldn't
have that was bad I actually I actually remembered recently probably the most
egregious example of this we will we will we will yeah it's it's it's it's bad
it's really bad the most egregious example of this was actually when I was
working at NCIS and I bought three TVs from Best Buy so that I could make a
video about a triple TV setup and then I returned them yeah that's not great I
gotta admit I didn't properly think about the implications like I didn't I
didn't think about that these were these were basically gonna be sold out at a
loss like I didn't look at their open box pricing I was just like I need three
TVs now oh yeah I don't need them anymore I kept they're in perfect shape I
put them back all nice like is this really that much of a problem that was
really bad I really shouldn't have done that
shift 5609 says don't people do this with clothes a lot I've actually heard
that that's a trend that is skyrocketing right now I forget what it's called
there's like a term for it is it called labeling or something buying clothes and
returning trend war droping the yeah the term war droping may not be common yet
but the trend is this is from times of times of India so yeah shoppers are buying
clothes just for the Instagram pic hiding the labels in the shot and then
returning them and apparently like high-end boutiques are dealing with a
ton of this right now that's super cool dude that's awesome yeah so it's a it's a
whole it's a whole thing and have I have I done this yes do I feel bad about it
yes should I do that again no no I should not I think that I think that for
my part unless I have a strong intent to own the product like I'll return things
if I'm not happy with them if they don't meet my expectations but if I buy
something it's because I have a strong intent to own it I'm sorry best buy I've
barely ever returned anything I don't buy very many things which is probably the
the root of that cause well you and I have both taken advantage of extended
warranties I know oh yeah let's go that one given the predatory nature of them
I think I could probably rationalize myself into an I don't feel that bad
about its base yeah however technically okay what I will say is I probably took
it pretty far oh yeah so but you know that's that yeah you just you decide
what you're okay with and that also happened at a time when I really didn't
have any money which doesn't make it okay either but also and I'm sorry but
also that whole extended warranty thing at particularly the shop that it
happened at future shop was pretty skeezy and pretty pushy and pretty
exploitative it was realistically only through taking advantage of loop holes
that you could ever really benefit from it yes and so I found those loop holes
yeah and benefit from them I did yeah but I shouldn't have done that
sure how did we end up on this topic that was that that was a merch message I
don't know what it was but yeah it was all right cool it's two three more
topics California tries to keep big tech out of your brain but does it go far
enough California became the second up it's gone California became the second
US state to officially protect neural data in state law after Colorado the
bill amends the California Consumer Privacy Act of 2018 and as such prevents
companies from selling or sharing a person's neural data it also requires
companies to make efforts to anonymize the day okay make efforts to
anonymize also known as why not and gives consumers the right to know what
information is collected and the right to delete that information however some
mental privacy advocates don't feel the law goes far enough in how it defines
neural data while this law protects the raw data from your brain and nerves it's
not clear whether the law covers in inferences and conclusions made from
that data oh information that is arguably more sensitive oh good lord for
sure sorry I'm reading ahead this is oh man for example MIT technology review
points out that oh that research has used EEG data a measure of the brain's
electrical activity to predict volunteers sexual orientation or whether
they use recreational drugs conclusions like this may not be covered although
what is interesting is that if you were ever not sure if like being gay is real
because I don't know you live in the Stone Age brainwaves here you go cool
you're welcome privacy advocates privacy advocates have also argued for
broadening the definition of neural data to include to include physiological and
behavioral data since brain activity isn't the only indicator of how you're
feeling heart rate can indicate excitement or stress and eye tracking can
indicate what choice you're likely to make interesting oh man yeah eye tracking
if it indicates what choice you're likely to make and then if they figure out
that you're choosing the one that they don't want you to choose they could do like a flash sale right before your eyes to get you to get the one that they
want you to buy that sucks that's terrible I'm happy they're moving on this
but I like I mean it feels like it's not gonna be enough yeah gonna be loopholes
we're just we're boned even even at the front right like we're boned dude we're
requiring companies to make efforts to anonymize the data that means they're
going to do the absolute minimum as required by law and try to hide it as
much as possible that doesn't mean they're gonna do it
Sifrin says we already know free will isn't an actual thing you could very
much predict a lot of stuff Cory is the name says the proletariat will rise up
and eat the rich before this all gets too far out of hand just wait I don't
know if they can what what's what what's uh oh man who did that who did that good
video on authoritarianism ism use of power blah blah blah blah blah who was
it cdp gray the rules for rulers you should watch this because the thing is
when you have when you have the tools of mass surveillance and you have tools of
mass oppression you don't actually need a lot of people that you take care of
really well to maintain power to maintain power over a great many people who
you are exploiting and it's it's pretty it's pretty scary it's it's an older
video but it is definitely worth having a look at the rules for rulers from cdp
gray cdp gray hasn't had any like controversy anything has he knows okay
well yeah just me okay I hope not I don't know who I'm promoting yeah they
just gotta the audience has got to get over that yeah it's too much it would be
so sad if he ever did yeah I I I I I I have seen his face oh my yeah which I
don't know if it's interesting because yeah he might have he might have done a
face reveal I have no idea I haven't paid attention lately I would also just
like you guys to remember that I advocated for you don't eat me
would you eat me yeah sure really no like are we talking if I was dead
already you would actually participate in the murder first well I'm not I'm not
gonna like what which scenario are we looking I'm not gonna Caesar you we
could find 12 more people but if someone else seasoned me Caesar Caesar I
meant oh okay okay okay all right I'm just some Frank's on there when you
start I would put Frank's on yeah Lucas and Brutus no and you Lucas no but
when you're when you're running your cult town yeah okay you'd have to be
careful to not get Caesar'd all right oh that makes sense yeah okay I'm not gonna
be running a cult town we've talked about this that's you that's your dream
not my dream instead of our dream it's loam
man crystal says I'm not a billionaire so I'm not rich enough for that and I am
not I want to make that very clear by any measurement of my assets I am where
is the line is the line billionaire at this conversation with David I know like
ages ago I forget I forget where the line is and it's it's after hours so I'm
not gonna bother him about it see see I'm one of the nice ones please don't
eat me like I've called Nick like yeah whatever Nick's Nick's in management
whatever yeah yeah yeah but people are saying most people are saying billionaire
it looks oh Canadian or American that's a huge difference oh I've nowhere near
either like it's not even oh no no no no I'm saying where the line is oh we got
talking US dollars US dollars is the global measure measure of wealth yeah so
okay well without without looking at the answers okay so what where's your line
let's bring it down into this to take like rich yeah eat the rich where's the
eat the rich line I mean there's a couple schools of thought because oh okay
we have an expert thank you Dan yes I mean because you've got like a lot of
people talk about the middle class yeah and the lower class and the upper class
but there's only working class and like the ownership class right middle class
is kind of a design to split the people right against the the the uppers of
society mm-hmm technically Linus would be one of those people already because he
employs people and owns a factory but he does also work yeah but I don't have to
though I think that's an important line I don't I don't have to realistically
anymore yeah exactly does Linus deserve to be guillotined well hold on a second
let me just jump in and correct you it's guillotined yes all right I'll go get
the one in my car I'm waiting for this yeah I don't know it's it's a little
difficult right where where is the line of like Bezos to Linus literature would
tell us that the there is no line right interesting but I can tell you that the
difference between my lifestyle the difference between my lifestyle and my
wealth and Bezos is extremely dramatic absolutely is it incomparable colossal
buddy literally wanted them to deconstruct a fucking bridge so that he
could get his boat out of the shipyard like this is like this is a historical
bridge everyone has a price I like my boat I need to get my shirts out my
boat needs to be in slightly different water yeah it's I don't know I don't know
I'm sure there's a line it's out well because you have the $400 shirts and you
need them in your villa and in the south of France yes this is a great this is a
great post from impurator the difference between one billion dollars and one
million dollars is approximately one billion dollars like what if you had
800 million or 500 million or a hundred million I okay I don't I don't know this
is I feel unqualified to weigh in on this I just I'm just kind of kind of sitting
here and I go back Linus has money right and I think Linus we've talked
about this after when a few times now right Linus is he's got money but
there's also there's also he doesn't have like a lot of money there's also an
interesting question because like they're the the valuation of the company was
something that was brought up a little while ago yes we said publicly what the
offer was yes but this is one of those as much as we've tried to rage against
this we are one of those inverted pyramid YouTube companies where if you
leave we're in trouble mm-hmm like the machine is not
necessarily staining like like Amazon will be okay it might have a pretty flat
bottom of the pyramid right inverted pyramid but it's still an inverted
pyramid so and we're trying and we're trying we're trying to make that better
but it is hard yeah what we do it's it's not necessarily about that I think right
I think it is though because that is not cash that he has that is an asset that
he owns is the if we take Linus out of the equation I think he's just an
example in this right take me out of the equation I don't like the direction
this is going well pull him into pieces right like Linus has money right those
machines are in Diablo yeah exactly but he doesn't have like extreme levels of
wealth I mean intergenerational is he stops working also known as leaves the
company but value of the thing that he owns goes down significantly but again
it's not about necessarily Linus in particular when we're talking about this
line right say Linus just owned the factory that is LMG right sure right he
could dissolve it that would be fine he could take the money from the bio which
would be what nine figures or something like that yeah but the bio required him
to stay so he's still working it did require me to stay for a period of two
years again you're still using him as the example if you had a hundred
million dollars right yeah and wasn't working or just owned the company and
did other things like is that where the line is this is 50 million because what
I'm saying is he doesn't have a hundred million dollars I don't because he didn't
accept the buyout mm-hmm and but I own an asset that's worth that so I said is
worth less if I'm not working yeah so it's complicated yeah okay but my
question let's get off the subject of me for a minute that's what I'm trying to
do my question is where would the line be if we weren't talking about me that's
what I'm trying to do does it come down to what you what you do day-to-day is it
your lifestyle or is it your wealth like your net worth or is it your cash
because you could have a very frugal lifestyle but you could have a ton of
cash in the bank and just choose to live like a normal person you could have an
extravagant lifestyle but actually have no real assets so you're just you're
living check-to-check but you have a huge income you could have huge wealth huge
net worth but actually all of it is illiquid
illiquid whatever it's not liquid right it's it's tied up it's it's in companies
that that are private companies so you can't just like trade the stock on the
open market or anything like that so you so in that category you could live a
very extravagant lifestyle or you could not live a very extravagant lifestyle or
you could live somewhere in between like what are we measuring here I don't know I
think I think it depends on to me yeah your disregard for human life which is
an impossible thing to measure but I do agree which is part of the problem because
like if you if you own a bunch of businesses but aren't raking disgusting
ruin the world level profit margins like a lot of businesses do and you're
employing a bunch of people in jobs that are paying them well and stuff like
that if you have a bunch of wealth because you technically own all these businesses I don't think you should just be guillotined I think that that's kind
of depends on the person right yeah technically you would be of the
ownership class and therefore subject to head separation right okay but does it
okay so then tell me this on the subject of head separation then does it come
down to what your answer to the trolley problem would be hmm would you do you
own the company that produces the trolleys are you the train company if so
head separated if you are employed by the train company to drive the train
over people then you don't get guilty but does that mean that the person
pulling the lever who doesn't own anything regardless of decision is cool I
don't know if you had four billionaires on one side and one billionaire on one
side like how can I drift across both tracks you know it's I've seen that done
a lot yeah I don't I don't know I don't know where is the line if it's just
monetary wealth like Linus said it depends how you use it if you just have
a lot of wealth and are nice like okay Bill Gates okay Bill Gates versus Jeff
Bezos so I could talk a fair bit about how dropping both Bill Gates has done a
lot of what if I just owned all the farmland what happened then what about
the guy that bought the onion futures for the entire US for like ever and then
yeah I had to get rules made about him what if you'd have just so much money you
can just be like I own all the vegetables yeah which happened Gates has yet to
provide a really solid defense for why he owns so such a large proportion of the
agricultural land in the United States of America what if I controlled all of
their food if I was the one that got to decide if you eat or not yeah I I don't
know that I would draw a distinction between those two particularly don't at
all what if it's living outside of your means like if there if you have two
houses guillotine living outside of your means though if anything I think that
could you could make the argument that they're a victim of a society that has
no hold on I'm going somewhere with this society that has their pull the
rope back that has me what if they're a victim of a society that has set
unrealistic expectations for what kind of lifestyle they have to uphold in
order to in order to you know be one of the cool kids if that's you know
meaningful to them what if they what if they're a victim of of the the kind of
lending borrowing culture that we have and they and they were you know they
felt pressured in order to keep up to borrow money in order to sort of you
know build build that is that the way you live outside your means not
necessarily like I think more like being inside of a societal place like
everybody has enough like eventually you have enough right one of the one of
the arguments that I wanted to make was like okay you make you have more than
$200 million just 100% tax you can't have more than $200 million but then
thinking about somebody like Bezos who actually has no money because he just
has giant loans and then he borrows against those loans so he's in debt
forever right he uses his massive stock wealth which isn't really anything to
basically be in you know hundreds of million dollars of debt like Linus
probably has more money than Bezos probably not probably not but you kind of
get the comparison more liquid cash just in case he like I don't know feels like
doing anything in case it's like a gold plated paper exactly I just I just have
a bunch of gold bars in my basement that sort of thing right I wonder how many seconds it would take it's already it's already that many yeah yeah if you have
two houses if you own 400 acres of land if you you know have 75 cars you know
okay what if you have 400 acres of land and it's all agriculture and you're
you're growing crops for people and you're not necessarily making yeah well if you're not gouging yeah then are you a lot of me is is the gouging how are
you actively using your immense wealth to make life terrible for other people
and I think just hoarding wealth and doing nothing with it is a form of
actively using it to make other people's okay tell me this I mean it's no
secret that the badminton center based on the list price is worth anywhere
between about 20 to see what would the math be 20 to 23 million US dollars okay
that's not a secret that you can look that up I clearly own a badminton
center because I made a video about it and this building and this building and
the other building and the Labs building and the other building and created a warehouse building your house and my house you forgot my old house for
Mayan laws live okay I didn't know that was public well whatever it is now
apparently I think you have talked about that on why before okay okay
guillotine do we do we make a fancy one do we get the brand of skin it LTT
store we could livestream it the end of the end of the streak the official skin
partner oh geez am I doing anything that makes someone's life actively worse
that's that's where a lot of you don't invest in real estate I invest in
business real estate I always respect that about you as you're not buying up
houses but I do I but okay so if I if I own two houses but I literally give one
of them to a relative to live in am I evil I think landlords are evil
landscape like real estate prospector type people okay am I a landlord if I
don't charge them or am I just a land no you're like you're like land bro we're
putting your rent down this month I'm sorry I have to pay you now I mean this
is a thing that's been debated for a bazillion years it completely comes
down to the the yeah the oppression and next stomping that happens and if you're
you know if you have your 400 acres but you're doing it to grow crops that
you're selling at fair prices that are not crushing anyone if you could argue
that just having that much capital in general is bad yes it is impossible for
anyone else to do farming because you will own all the farmland Bill Gates then
yeah I agree that that's bad but there is a lot of land like if you have 400
acres in Canada and you're not really close to the American border who cares
yeah but what's stopping me with my vast amounts of wealth to just go to another
country and buy up all of their stuff right but but but you didn't so is it
the power then so back to what we're what is where's the line is is the line
power this is where we go to the ownership class versus the working class
right but there's a degree of the power there's degrees of ownership class and
so where is the power line right if money is not a problem how much control and
power do you have right I think that should be the deciding factor right poorly
those now we're getting into the see I don't understand back onto the person the
terms for what these different political and philosophical arguments are but I'm
gonna call this the Superman discussion because good dude tons of power right so
I think there is like I'm saying with this farmer 400 acres but not a competitive
400 acres that's growing crops and selling them at fair prices that man should
fight him yeah well terrible that man should keep him in check yeah you know
like I think I think I would want to pay attention to that guy but I it's fine
people need crops soo for AWS asks don't you still own the old Langley house
also as a landlord yes the only reason though the only reason the only reason is
they asked me not to sell that's three houses they were going to they were gonna
buy it's a lot of business property hold on they were gonna they were gonna buy
the whole company we said we want a lot of things okay give me a sec pull the rope
we wanted to sell it because we weren't interested in in philosophically I am
against speculative investment I can in residential real estate I can verify that
this all happened by the way we wanted to sell it the tenants asked us not to
because they wanted to put together a plan to be the ones to buy it because
they like the house they like the area and it isn't it's nice house I even give
you a timeline yes they ultimately were not able to do that and asked to renew
their lease was it because of your oppressive landlord pricing no okay we
gave them we gave them I believe the same don't quote me on this I believe we
gave them the same or a very similar rate to expand to the rest of the house
once you moved out of the basement and we have never increased their rent ever
they're never gonna leave is there is there a two nice no is there a this
becomes the other argument when they move out nobody has enough money to be
nice to everybody therefore it is your being mean right you you could just use
your money to buy a swath of houses and then have everybody live in them for
free and it just like that wouldn't work either now we're making the town 400
acres of forest in northern BC and then build a town and then everybody everything
comes back to line you can even provide them clothing and like food and you would
know the clothing was made well by us I mean the hypothetical people who lived in
the town you have my you have my personal commitment when they move out we're
going to sell it I I do not I believe we have we have a demand problem here for
housing but we also have a supply problem and I don't want to contribute to the
supply problem but I'm also I'm also not into raising rents I believe I mean we
talked about this early on the show to me a contract is a contract it's an
agreement and unilaterally changing the agreement is pretty stupid I think what
about things like here's a question like if if the if there's natural inflation
and things like power hydro do you pass power on hydro on I have no idea I'm
not surprised I bet you don't just because it would be like annoying the
truth is I actually just don't care I think I think you're defending your
self and I don't think we need to because you're like a good one maybe we
will find out eventually is it possible for there to be a good one though that's
the question but where is the power I think there's gotta be a limit where is
the power line like Linus doesn't have enough money or enough power to be a
concern right do I you good who knows I don't I don't know what I could do I've
never really like I've never really thought about it I think I think it
becomes a problem when you have so much wealth that you can buy all of the
onions in the US oh and like I can't you know what do you know what I mean like
you could destroy an economy like I can't buy politicians you can't buy
politicians looking at some of the documentation that I've seen online I
think you could probably buy a few they don't this seems to be a relatively easy
thing to do I think so they're really not expensive I'm not well read enough on
the subjects to like give all of the arguments okay so hear me out
please please please please please please please please please we'll put the
guillotine away this is this is a really cool blade please it has a really
flexible zoning this is sick it allows for recreation use office use multi unit
residential use it has over 600 underground parking stalls this building
is this building is the size of a city block it allows for mixed retail use so
we could literally have like a store we could have like a like an LTT tech tech
shop where you can come get your computer repaired get like you know that
tech mall in Taiwan it is almost 250,000 square feet it is literally larger than
the entire real estate portfolio that I currently own combined if it's 256,000
square feet that would just be sick the only problem the only problem is that
this is an infamous building oh it was originally is it like haunted or something
here we go vacant since 1998 oh let's do it there's a really cool YouTube video
where they go into it from a few years back and this thing has f***ing rotted oh it
would be a nightmare moving vlogs for four years yeah pretty much I'm gonna
get I'm gonna get miss atheliumia from putting all the cat 16 in it yeah here
it is though it's right between Guildford and Surrey Central City so it's like
actually an amazing location just be abandoned this whole time I heard I heard
a story that like an American investor showed up at a previous cord ordered sale
and bought it for like a song like a couple million dollars or something like
that and then just sat on it and then sold it I think it sold a couple years
ago again to someone who thought they could resurrect it there's another
cord ordered sale coming clearly clearly nobody can get this thing off the
ground what they don't have a world-class team on the floor what if you
have a whole stall for that could you like section off half the building or
honestly from the sounds of it three quarters of the building I think that
the city and renovate part of it I think that the city is highly motivated to
have this not just be an eyesore on like one of the major arteries however there
would be serious like like safety and building code concerns around any effort
to resurrect this thing I'm so sorry are you though the red is really funny
sometimes I used to I used to have problems with the reddit the reddit has
been hilarious for quite a while now man that's really funny no I need him to
employ me yeah don't please alright I don't know I have a weird opinion that I
think a lot of the ether rich stuff has been like rage I don't know if we bleep
that word out or not but I did anyways he said porn yeah I guess we don't then I
don't know sometimes we do I think it cuz like the amount you hear people say
like oh I'm gonna whatever like it's either that or it's that whole thing
where like you say you're gonna do something but then the second you say
it you're no longer really gonna do it so if you're gonna commit to things you
should just do it without talking about it yeah interesting apparently it is I'm I'm all about that now so now he's not about it yeah I'm just gonna quit now
cuz I've already achieved my goal yeah yeah cuz you get you get the like social
even thinking about it you get the social credit for saying you're gonna do
the thing right and then it's like you're satisfied you get the you get the
dopamine hit and then you're done yeah interesting yeah like a lot of times
especially you should you should start and then form the habit and then you
can tell people that you should establish the habit first huh no I don't
have a doomsday bunker my goal is to live in harmony with the people around
me and not need one I but six six hundred car garage doomsday bunker videos
if you did a doomsday but you know you can drive EVs in a doomsday bunker
oh man be pretty sick dude Bill Randall executive VP of the real estate
company said he's been involved in the building for 20 years dating back to
previous owners reached Friday he confirmed Bansal as the current owner
and list price of 63 million little rich from my blood the important thing here
you know how the Baman Center is like 99.8% done yeah well if you just abandon
that project immediately and sell the whole building and then sell all your
other buildings all of them combined then just I don't I still don't think we
could afford it and a bunch of debt who cares whatever well yeah because the actual because the problem is not the 63 million dollars like we could get we
could with our cash flow with our assets we could we could probably get
loans we could we could probably buy it because if we were gonna occupy it we
would only need I think 10% down like we could put together six point three
million dollars we'll do another we'll do another lime sale Linus inventory
management experience sale we'll raise a couple mil that way we'll like we
could we could probably scrape it together the problem is how much we're
going to spend in renovations and to my point earlier about like safety and
building code you can't just be like in there working while you're renovating it
you can't well okay you can get a can if you do like seals and stuff the plumbing
is rotted out like it's bad it's real bad and yeah they yeah me Gors says home
renovations are always on time and on budget so yeah we would literally have
sold all of our buildings we'd have nowhere to operate while we're like
looking around going okay we're a bunch of like clothing designers and video
production people and now we're renovating a building like it's just
I work from home March 30 25 I don't think we could afford to fix it that's
the problem even if we could afford the building I don't think we could afford
to fix it if we could work out a deal with the city where where they would
allow us to you know get a small part of it up to speed while we like tech
reno it or something over a span of like you said like four years then I don't
know yeah probably yeah it's I was wrong about the size it's 275,000 square feet
even bigger so so this this building we're in right now including all the
mezzanine spaces with the amount of parking spots you could you could have
in with where it is and the amount of parking spots that there is you could
probably have an income stream just like renting out parking spots no no one
park there 600 isn't it right next to Guilford it's in between Guilford and
Surrey Central it's like in no man's land it's like if someone wanted to shop
at the superstore and walk two blocks then they could park it they accept
superstore has their own parking so we got nothing you just got to make that
the happen in place to be yeah dude this would be this would be completely
abandoning your badminton center and rebuilding it from scratch this would be tens of millions of dollars if you're lucky and so this is the problem in an
eight-page sales brochure posted online callers noted that the 2024 BC
assessment value was more than 114 million the problem is that if you buy
this thing at what I say 63 million yeah if you buy this thing at 63 million and
you spend a hundred million dollars renovating it you're underwater and I
think that that is maybe not a hundred million but I do think that it is not
unrealistic for anyone who buys this to potentially spend that kind of money
fixing it so you could end up like I okay I I had a somewhat I had a pretty
not serious conversation with Yvonne that was like we should show up at the
auction and offer like two million dollars because if this thing is gonna
cost a hundred million dollars to renovate then maybe it is actually worth
nothing at a certain point it's it's worth the knockdown value dude knock down
land oh I don't know if the city would even allow you to do it though like you
need a permit to knock down a building and I think they I think they the city
wants this thing to be a thing yeah this thing dude this the thing is frigging
wild yeah in 2021 2021 there was a tour there was a tour of the building here I'm
gonna wait till this I'm gonna wait till this ad finishes is that a form of ad
block is that okay is that fine by watching this by showing this to the
stream but not having them watch the ad no did you just perform there's an ad
for navigator was that whatever black press media is you all just say all
everyone watching just engage in piracy nope yep nope nope it's right here there
fine okay so here we go so here's the inside actually like looks pretty dease
been vacant for more than two decades I bet it smells lovely but if you if you
kind of they talk about it they talk about it in the video you kind of got a
dig a little deeper to like like no this is like actually bad developers
envisioned an Asian show mart surprisingly not like discolored that
doesn't matter almost at all but yeah what are those I don't know dude buy it
didn't you get those yeah free table yeah yeah that's huge dude dude the place
is freaking enormous 275,000 square feet just like everything so it's like open
here's a plywood thing you say there was residential it's zoned for multi unit
residential so much residential I think less than 60% so it would still be a
very substantial potentially very substantial amount of residential this
could this could literally house the entire company this is one and like
every endeavor the company does that that was why I was like but no and like
you don't you don't do necessary company housing you just have it as an option
that is cheaper to the point where like you'd be kind of dumb to not do it and
then you don't do a necessary company store but you have a store on the
premises that sells clothing and food and everything that you need and then
you can pay Linus bucks at the store and you earn Linus bucks for good conduct
at work yeah we can use the AI tracking to make sure that people are on task yeah
and behaving nice every ten lines of code mm-hmm you get five Linus bucks yeah
and your weekly food ration yeah yeah I like this idea yeah it's a good idea yeah
Surrey Board of Trade says they should just tear it down that's what yeah sorry
CEO and president of the Surrey Board of Trade that's the city Surrey all right well
anyway good luck everybody oh yeah okay I didn't imagine it American lawyer
Donald Pitt who helped launch the Phoenix Suns NBA basketball team decades ago
bought the building in the mid-2000s construction was completed at that time
since then prospective renters and or buyers have included Fraser Health
Simon Fraser University in the RCMP but all deals eventually didn't happen
potential uses pitched for the building have included banquet hall office space
homes restaurants bowling alley even an auto sales lot on the ground floor none
of which ever materialized two million dollars who do you have to buy it from
is it the city or is it the current owner who is a cool deep bandsaw but
they're forced to sell it it's a court ordered sale but I don't know what that
means this article is really interesting because it's like it's kind of
everything you need to know the important thing here is the lenders and the
owner everyone along with us we're trying to work together to find a positive
solution for the property and this is the realtor this is a bit of a positive
spin on this but there is equity in the building you know the mortgage holders
are well protected the court ordered sale is not because there's a negative
equity situation here so negative equity would mean that it is worth less than the
amount you owe on it right yeah or like the then the total liability but I also
think that I don't know if it's worth practically anything I I am not sure if
you have to rip up all of the plumbing and very likely all of the electrical and
potentially the walls and everything else also I think you're paying a cool
like million dollars a year in property taxes the entire time you hold this
property yeah yeah yeah yeah well so it's probably not gonna happen ever but
it'd be cool it'd be pretty sick I'm just media campus yeah do it it's not my
debt go for gold yeah I mean it's it's a cool building it is very cool man looks
neat imagine you could play soccer on the lawn in the front heck yeah you could
company activity heck yeah you could why not like half the size you could do
outdoor Babaton on the lawn in front look at all these Windows it's like kind
of a cool building why not every single person has a corner office yeah right
look at all these corners there's a lot of corners it's beautiful what are we
doing right now what are we talking about how do we end up on this Luke has
14 minutes oh yeah Luke oh man oh man okay Nintendo I killed the Rujin X
switch emulator last weekend Russ of the YouTube channel oh wait no this is
about the copyright strike for Russ from Retro Gamecore that is yeah thanks
Nintendo for that they got their first strike after covering the MIG switch
now called the MIG flash which allows you to dump games from your Nintendo
computer according to Russ Nintendo was able to strike that video because the
title screen of Super Mario 3d world was shown on his computer the new strike
was on a video where Russ apparently demonstrated a Wii U emulator it's
perhaps worth noting that you can't buy Wii U games from Nintendo anymore since
the company shut down the console's eShop last year then this Tuesday it came
out that Nintendo switch emulator Rujin X has been wiped out a year after
rival emulator Yuzu was shuttered by Nintendo according to the Rujin X
development team member Rip in Perry Perry the lead developer GDK Chan was
offered an agreement by Nintendo to stop working on the project and remove the
organization as well as all related assets while GDK Chan didn't tell the
team whether or not he was complying the emulators now gone from GitHub and the
official sites download page has been wiped it is speculated that this was a
buyout rather than any kind of threat of legal action because my understanding
of Rujin X was that it involved complete reverse engineering not any
Nintendo IP which was supposed to keep it safe from any Nintendo legal action
interesting I don't know if any of the rest of this matters that much so maybe
we should do a couple more messages sure we've got to do when after dark yeah
that way we can at least transition to when after dark before Luke just leaves
yeah sure I'll focus on Luke once Luke did you or have you considered using the
flutter flame framework for Floatplane seems like it would work well to have a
unified code base across platforms we're not changing frameworks right now my
dude I haven't looked into it if if this was something that we were you know if
we were making a platform from scratch maybe we could look into stuff but yeah
we're not we're not doing that right now sorry the chat is also very upset at
this idea I don't know so dudes hey Linus do you have any pictures of that sweet
Suzuki you've been painting and Luke have you ever rode on the back of it dude his
weight sitting behind me up higher than me on a bike we would tip oh your bike
yeah we did the first red light and just you know I wrote on the back of a scooter
that Dennis was driving in Taiwan me too and we'd live scary Colton and I both rode with
Dennis at the same time it was pretty scary that's basically me let's see one actual human or two
homunculi
no I don't have any pictures I have been completely stalled on that project kind of
demoralized by some of the setbacks I'm gonna pick it up again I really need to
I really I really need to pick it up again I'll get it done yeah
all right this is a bit hard here the person who asked that just wants to know we're getting the beard back phony Tony said in full play chat that is it's kind of true
yeah that's fair I want the beard back I think I think I'm ready yeah yeah hey DLL question for
Luke any thoughts on star citizen charging $40 for the Atlas essentially making a problem with
loading cargo and selling a solution to the problem they made
I mean I didn't know that was part of it um because I didn't know about this ship because
I check out stars isn't like once a year um I don't know dude they also sell like
tens of thousands of dollars for a single ship don't they I don't know the whole no I don't
think they have anything that expensive I don't think so yeah they do I think they don't I know
they have there's a that are that expensive no there's there's a ship that is the like largest
luxury yacht and I think it's five figures at least most I dress is that it isn't ships 2022
725 by the Idris is old that one how much is that $25,000 600 I executive edition hey it's
the javelin is three thousand dollars largest destroyer class ship 480 meters in length yeah
but there's the 600 I executive edition okay 25 grand yeah there's nobody there's no way anybody
bought that uh I pretty much guarantee you someone did oh yeah for human use as an expeditionary
vessel for players no for players the ship is only available as a reward upon reaching the
legatus naviel concierge rank that requires a spending oh requires a spending of 25 grand
so even though the ship that's all right for spending money oh I see that's a rank for spending
money my guy oh the interior is in pre-concept stage design and will be updated at some point in
the future there's a vr chat level for it so you don't have to buy one ever like a normal person
moving on so like yeah I don't know uh that sucks uh stars isn't cool though they do
genuinely some pretty incredible things the tech behind it is super interesting what they're working
on is super nido you don't have to spend that much money on the game at all oh no just play the
game and earn money and then buy ships that way and it's totally fine I'm still working on my
60 dollar ship buy since it first came out a thousand years ago yeah and you're probably fine
okay like this cargo ship thing I wouldn't be surprised if you can just make somebody in the
game and just buy it in the game yep yeah so like I don't know just ignore it don't don't play into
those things and move on talking of games have you played zero severt what okay no uh look I don't
know hold on can we do something really fun really quick here oh yeah sure this is still a thing
there's a 50 dollar super oh it's just gone and I have to click here to see it but they don't stay
here forever um pretty pretty wild that it's just not in the viewer activity thing this has been
open the whole time whole time merge messages use merge messages okay cool bye zero severt looks sick
from just like the steam page but I don't know it's a it's a extraction shooter but it's like
a little top-down game oh that's cool I guess nuclear focused very positive yeah I don't know
cool seems neat there's so many cool things sorry one second oh am I going back to your laptop
they call them they call the area zakhov which is like the closest thing to tarkov
all right that's a little nuts all right they know what they're doing uh luke you've said in
the past you wouldn't do an AMD tech upgrade is it be too boring would you do it uh with this
big kicker Linus is in charge and picks what you get I already pick what he gets for his upgrades
yeah to be honest um no I my problem was that like there just I yeah I didn't have a an interesting
I actually said no at one point one was offered to me I said no because I didn't think it would
be interesting for people um that is no longer true but I I am at the whims of the rules of
whoever draws the thing so I don't know if I'm eligible or not it doesn't really necessarily
matter I get the free computers because of that ancient awesome deal anyways so I'm something
that could be kind of fun as you were mentioning my dad getting one we could maybe do it that if I
get drawn it just my dad yeah why don't we do that um something like that could be cool um
and then I don't know if I there's potential that I'm going to be dramatically changing
my setup probably in the new year um because my roommate moved out so we're going to be moving
our desks into there and I could maybe drag Linus over to my house for that and we could just
like film it but it wouldn't have to be an AMD tech upgrade um oh weird um the behavior of the
dashboard seems to have changed something was incurated that I wanted to uncurate so that I
could type a response and then push to stream but it seems to have gone straight to push to stream
instead of giving me an opportunity to type a response so anonymous I don't know anything
really about the word press dot org thing but I will say that the whole uh if you don't agree with
this legal fight um take a buyout and then get out move seems like not really good leadership
is what I'll say about that back into incoming no I that's what I thought but it didn't seem to go
there uh that's fine we can figure it out another time okay all right what else we got you got any
more topics or is this went after dark officially it's officially went after dark there's a couple
more topics I don't uh um I don't have to leave exactly at eight um
Redditors can't protest um platform changes anymore you have to you have to send a request
to um to take your your subreddit private there okay that's that uh I think we talked about the
flappy bird thing last week uh sketchy game dev announces recovery plan and a new kick starter
so the background here is the day before was a hyped up multiplayer survival horror
extraction shooter that was misleadingly advertised as an MMO the game was very limited
and technically flawed when it launched in December 2023 and was withdrawn from sale after just
four days the developer fantastic also garnered controversy due to its alleged use of volunteer
and severely underpaid labor and its alleged habit of finding employees as punishment for
poor output now fantastic has returned with a promise that it's changed its ways and a kick
starter for $15,000 to develop a physics-based multiplayer co-op escape game called escape
factory a demo of the game is available on steam however according to data miners the game's assets
are flipped unity store items and its networking and matchmaking features are based on unity demo
code so maybe don't buy it cool all right that's it okay oh we gotta cut the the zuck shirt let's do
that should we just do it next week no they need it oh okay it's time to unbox a $400 t-shirt oh yeah
i'm excited would you like to do it uh sure this is actually the second time it's unboxed so okay
yeah i unboxed it for a float thing exclusive you get a little card you got to read the card first
all right i'll read the card you can't open your present without reading your card first thank you
thank you for purchasing from our online boutique we have prepared your order with the utmost care
in salameo salameo salameo i don't know it's a metallic city uh our customer care is available
to assist you scan the qr code to contact our team very nice all right oh man i just cleaned the
okay look look i didn't buy it for myself the company bought it for competitive product research
yeah and we're destroying it so that we can research it it comes in a bag i mean you can't
figure out how a frog works without taking it apart that's what they taught me in biology class
why does it come in its own bag so that you have a bag and oh it doesn't even have a bag you're not
good at this is that surprising to anyone okay it doesn't have a lot of experience in boxing any
clothes have you never unboxed a four hundred dollar t-shirt usually my clothes just show up at my
desk you're holding it behind your laptop you are actually the worst thing it's got a big really
big tag yeah and that's it it feels like a shirt not even like a particularly thick one or anything
i'm just i'm feeling like this i pinched feeling it i don't know um your customer please be advised
that the product cannot be returned if the security tag is removed okay do it yeah you held it under
the table oh look oh you need showmanship classes i think the content's better when you get mad though
hey there's another tag this WAN Show how much it was no why is there another tag oh i guess i
can try and find the i forget what this is this product of quality this product of quality fruit
of our labor is created in solomio a small medieval village at the gates of asisi where men and nature
are still aware of the harmonious rhythm of time kind of sick
so we're cutting this thing yep is do you want to cut it in like a specific spot so it's still
wearable by someone is that impossible how big is the circle it's pretty big yeah i know you just
still wearable after you cut a circle out of it i mean you dude it's a four hundred dollar shirt do
that do the nipple someone would do it oh yeah nice yeah you want to hear i don't actually i don't
actually see it um i'm a little confused is does it say anywhere what the product is like do you
have a label uh okay it feels nice are you gonna give me the label no that's just a little labels
there you took the label all right all right okay so what what is it this is a c8190 medium
yeah like i didn't think no i think that's i think that's a skew hold on i think i can
probably i can probably search by that okay so the little rubber disc c8190 is that gonna work
unfortunately seems we couldn't find any results for that uh okay well i can't i can't find it
anymore i can't find it on their site but we definitely ordered this we bought it and now
okay right right right right right so one of the things that we wanted to do
is make sure that our zuck t-shirt which is just going to be a great t-shirt but you know comfortable
or whatever you know like billionaires like um we wanted to make sure that it is pretty similar
at least we're not going to have the same source of cotton we're not we might even use a blend
instead of 100% cotton it can be made the same way yeah it's not going to be made in a medieval
village yeah it's a great t-shirt and it's going to be inspired by you know that shirt
mark zuckerberg is always wearing um and in this shirt's defense ignoring the price tag
feels nice feels nice um but one of the things that we need to do in order to determine how we
can make a shirt like zuck would wear is we need to figure out the weight of the fabric
and the best way to do that i'm informed by tatiana from the i don't know she's really
fashion team but she works on the fashion team and also with the engineering team on like materials
essentially the best way to do that is to use this thing what oh did i do something wrong no i
just had it all nicely lined up for you okay the best way to do it is to use this thing which
basically goes on to a material and then has like a blade and you spin this thing and it like
it's yeah it's got kind of like a nasty oh there's four blades yeah that's the little
blade thing in there so you turn this thing and it cuts it it cuts the fabric that gives you a
standard sized piece of the fabric and then you you can determine the fabric weight well you just
dabbed it you got to go around now you got to keep pressure down the whole time yeah well i'm trying
okay here we go you don't have to go crazy hard because you're just going to be cutting the rubber
so theoretically there's four blades so you should you know not have to go technically all the way
around uh did we get it all right and here it is nice sorry uh brunello oh where'd it go
it's now in the shirt oh this isn't going to be twitch twitch tv safe anymore well that was the
point really to have a boob cut out yeah where did it go where did it go titty window
is it still like hung on by a thread or something
it's a high quality resilient shirt it doesn't just come apart like some peasant shirt would
where where did it go that's part of the vanishing if it's in the thing no this is what you get for
four hundred bucks where the heck is what happened i mean it's not like we can't do it again we have a
lot of shirt i have already flipped it inside out i'm going in what this doesn't like eat it no
i saw it i saw it flop yeah where did it go is it under no are we idiots is chat gonna tell us
where it is under the rubber no it's not under the rubber you guys look oh what how to get under
the rubber i have no idea how the heck did it get under the rubber that was like a magic trick
that's wild i have no idea all right oh wait did they oh did tachiana also give us a scale
yeah oh that's awesome so we're gonna find out the fabric weight right now
did she give you like the formula for how much the whatever uh it's grams normally and then it's gsm
if you 10 exit if i remember correctly okay wait it's not zero i did tear it tear it okay i'm going
no no the other tear uh um to tear here we go okay you good yep okay hold on why does it need
a lid okay i don't know error error error it's a very sensitive accurate scale oh because of the
air air currents oh is that 1.71 i don't i don't know yeah 1.71 grams okay so uh 17 perfectly
17.1 gsm it shouldn't matter but is that is that like a lot i have no idea fabric that doesn't
sound like a lot that doesn't sound right well it doesn't feel super like thick or anything when
you hold it oh okay you know 17 gsm seems like it like could be could be a thing alibaba 12 gsm
non-woven fabric here we go okay yeah those look like pretty like normal fabrics like like you could
make a shirt out of or something wait you know this is 140 gsm what hold on is that just like a mat
no this is fabric for t-shirts yeah no this can't be right this can't be right grams times a hundred
oh is it times a hundred if it's times a hundred that would make more sense i probably just forgot
what she said yeah 100 said the right thing 170 gsm sounds a lot more like the range i was
expecting i don't know what gsm numbers normally are uh grams per square meter no i
thanks how much do you charge if they just weigh it in for a grand why do they bother change the
number um i don't know okay i don't know uh okay but also what are we talking about oh yeah it's
it's great it's grams times 100 okay perfect she's in the chat oh oh my bad i forgot i thought you
said 10 that's no way her username is material girl it's kind of it's pretty good i like it
i mean we're living in a material world so uh makes sense that you'd be a material girl i took it
off and put it back on again it said 16.9 or something okay well we'll let tachiana do it
properly because realistically we can't be trusted apparently yeah okay just lost the fabric sample
okay there's there's a question for her is seven does it 17 sound high 17 or 170 no that's probably
right i i can i can tell you the answer like is that a high gsm shirt not necessarily yeah okay
it's like fine yeah no no your your observation that it's not a particularly like thick shirt
she says no that's pretty normal yeah okay worksman says put the shirt on
with the circle all right you want to do a merch message in the meantime sure you going down yeah
i got a few uh shall we move to after dark as well yeah uh let's see hello wan.dll spout v2
i got a chance to meet both jensen huang and lisa su a few weeks ago i frozen had nothing useful
to say what questions would you have asked each if given the chance jensen definitely what is
what is the favorite what is what is your favorite artistic piece on your stove how do you properly
pronounce ty pick pick one pick a lame you have to decide well i feel like a billionaire
oh hey it's not actually a problem yeah this is perfect nice we should do this is a statement
we should i actually feel like that is an artsy shirt look if if the whole point of buying a super
if the point of buying a super expensive article of clothing is that you can afford it and other
people can't then it should be an even bigger flex to destroy it yeah and then be able to afford to
destroy it which other people can't i'm just following their logic i'm not i'm not really into
the whole four hundred dollar t-shirt thing also there's some kind of weird stuff about it like
do you notice the shoulders does seem to sit a little weird little like like a little peak
i think that might just be from it being pressed how it's yeah might just be from because there's
a line all the way down your down your shoulder which is almost certainly from it being folded
for so long look you gotta draw a dollar sign in the middle of the circle what like on my skin
no i don't want silver sharpie on my skin no i reject okay you need a black one so it looks
like a tattoo oh my god it's a window to the tattoo yeah and it's it's normally you'd have a
window to your soul so this way it shows a dollar sign because it's it's a window to his heart yeah
i will say this um uh you guys can see more detail about it in the Floatplane exclusive
if you're subscribed to Floatplane uh and realistically if you were shopping for a
shirt like this you can afford to subscribe to Floatplane um but the fit it's not great
yeah it's like kind of okay it's not that flattering in my opinion
the shoulders it has kind of like a weird second
yeah scene at the bottom it comes really far down unnecessary scene as well um
doesn't look at the way it like bunches if i lift my arms yeah i have rejected garments for
that had better sleeves than this is some of this uh being impacted by the giant hole that we put
in it no i like the hole yeah the artful hole yeah i think having an undershirt on that the the
second seam on the back of the shoulder is weird yeah that is odd are you guys going to do that
then um do what put a weird seam on the ARM yeah i guess we'd have to okay yeah well it's the zuck
i mean the steve had like a weird seam down the middle is this really like is he does he wear
this shirt all the time right now i don't know if he does right now but i don't care i mean steve
jobs doesn't wear that shirt right now because zuckerberg has done a big like really he's going
to let me get away with that one what do you say i said steve jobs doesn't wear that shirt right now
oh my goodness um because zuckerberg is he's he's like all trendy now and stuff he looks like this
that's okay yeah i know but we're not going to do that i'm and this shirt is apparently him
he he he took some phrase that is like um you must be Caesar to rule or something in Latin
i don't remember exactly how it went and he changed it to zuck
let me let me try to find the information on it give me one sec
zuck has gone full hello fellow kids yeah a little bit make an elon girl he's pulling it off though
he's pulling it off an elon girdle okay anyway um
yeah patch the hole with an LTT logo yeah i could be down make that part of the shirt you
sell no i don't think we'd put a giant LTT logo okay apparently there was a phrase i'm not going
to be able to pronounce it correctly at all which is like au caesar au nihil which means either a
caesar or nothing or simply all or nothing uh the saying it was indicative of grand ambition
and it was a personal motto of italian renaissance prince caesar borgia or whatever and his shirt
is the same thing but he replaced caesar with zuck and he made it himself and that's that's his shirt
you've got that and you guys went with the gray one yeah all right it's more iconic is it yeah
he wore it for a long time okay yeah the gray shirt is super iconic i don't pay attention to him
yeah i don't blame oh it's this one there are a lot of photos of this okay yeah wow he really
does look like he looks so much better now i'm so happy for him yeah there was nowhere to go but up
i don't know that he looks like he's he looks like logon paul like that's who he looks like he's
trying to dress like he's gonna make prime but it's like the number because he's like a computer guy
or something this over this i think it's a win i think it's a win yeah that's cool yeah he's doing
better yeah the haircut was really problematic before yeah it's like i want to can you accentuate
my receding hairline yeah it's like that's what he told or like my large forehead i guess it's not
even receding it's just really really big forehead i think this has been good for zuck and bad for the
people because people have started liking him a lot um and i think oh yeah do people just like
like mark zuckerberg now i think so interesting yeah so we're not gonna eat him well he seems
like he'd be chewy anyway he's got lizard meat no we gotta smoke him he's got those smoked meats
smoke with those meats baby rays or i can't remember it was a long time ago baby rays barbecue
saw something like that sweet baby rays baby rays oh chat says they're still gonna eat him they just
like him okay okay so they like him but they're gonna eat him shut a single tear yeah okay that's
interesting nice how many tears do i get do i get more tears enough to salt the meat i pour some
internet on it it's got more than enough sodium yeah all right high dwell do you think AMD no longer
doing high-end GPU's uh affect exclusivity a i b partners like xfx power color and sapphire
could we uh see them reaching out to invidia um no i don't power color and sapphire have been
all AMD through much worse times than we're in now oh yeah um and xfx they made the they made the
move they essentially like pulled an evga except just instead of pulling out of the vga market
entirely they were just like we're not going to sell cards from the only chipset vendor that matters
and we're going to go to AMD and like try to survive like that and they're still i mean they're
still kicking obviously but um AMD's done this before the for context the rumor is that AMD's
upcoming GPU family is not going to have like a high end like a 900 you know 80 900 x tx or
you know that'll kind of suck they've done it before polaris they didn't have a high end product
and partners apparently survived in fact i think they gained market share during that time so it
might be okay we'll see only time will tell that'll suck because Intel's not doing it either
yeah so if you want high end you're gonna pay the invidia tax period sweet you're getting you'll
get an even cooler kitchen sorry go for it it can have a second kitchen have you you've seen
his kitchen right i've seen the kitchen everyone's seen the kitchen how can anyone ever get over that
kitchen i don't know it's a nice kitchen what do you what do you want
my goodness is that even that crazy of a kitchen he's got a mural behind his stone he's got a
mantle yeah okay it's pretty crazy i don't know i never looked that close at it is that a wolf stove
i don't know what's a wolf stove does he have a combi oven if he doesn't have a combi oven it's
not it's a combi oven chat knows what a combi oven is i don't know how are you how are you rich and
you don't have a combi this is like one of 47 kitchens or something i live in like a mc mansion
it's just a normal house but big i don't i don't actually do like you know fireplace mantle on
my stove what defines a mansion i think over 5000 square feet why did it autofill kitchen
why is it asking me my location stop combi oven is way more combi oven is
combi oven allows you to control humidity and temperature and has convection steam injection
i hate it when you're making croissant things do you gotta have a kind of i look for definition
of a mansion and it says a manor house it's like what does that mean yeah well it doesn't have a
firm definition that's why well okay actually the first definition is a large impressive house
nice mansion bro look up mc mansion that's just that's not even a real thing it's a real thing
that's a hundred percent of it's the mc donald's version of a mansion they're uh they put up like
entire they're tasteless right why would you say that about your own home because it's it's basic
it's lacking architectural integrity yeah well it's not it's not like
does your house lack architectural integrity bro old money would look at my house and be like
does it even have any history like it's not it's just it's just a giant house it's it's a normal
house it's a normal house except it's big i linked one of my favorite like i don't know
it can we even say blogs anymore uh this this person basically goes through and explains why
they suck uh and there's some insane houses just so badly thought through i don't even i saw some
dude i don't even know a lot of the words on here inappropriate use of prairie mullions what is that
so i did architecture for a while there's like so many weird weird turns can you zoom in a little bit
uh
piggy nose extremely stealth oh what am i oh it's it's like a tiny little
porthole wheel a window that they put there for some reason dude i saw some really weird
houses when we were shopping there's a lot of um in in the in the kind of area ish where i live
there's a lot of houses that the owners clearly designed it and you know it's just some super
weird stuff to eat with sticks chopstick's machine with stuff on it i'm not gonna say what this looks
like i don't even see that i like that hell yeah what is this is this mic mansion hell is this a
whole site yeah will fodder there's hundreds of these they're so good my rich grand and my rich
friend in school had this dining set but they covered everything in plastic protection so
this honestly strangely have seen it's like uh money does not buy taste right yeah no it really
doesn't uh how do you live in this i don't know i don't know i don't i'm i'm so anti clutter i
don't like clutter i don't like stuff in my house that i don't use and i hate like uncomfortable
furniture and stuff like i just don't look at how many sure look at the tiered ceiling with all the
pot oh yeah and then the tiny little anemic fans right in the center they don't have carpets but
the or they don't have like wall the wall carpets but they have carpets everywhere so you're
always on carpet anyways yeah rugs the rug thomas will she
oh my god that's such a depressing room yeah
this one seems okay but all those plants are probably fake but there's only there's only one
note on this room because it's actually kind of yeah that looks actually i'd sit neat breakfast
there for sure both of you are blocked but dueling chode dormers
i mean i mean honestly most of what's funny about this is just the commentary like i don't
think oh yeah no the commentary is great but these houses are also ridiculous you know what we need
more chairs
okay is it a white media thing or is that just like well okay like big ships have round Windows
sole patch final bonds
all right bigger than the house my apartment is in just the garage
all right okay all right all right the loneliest table yeah dude that's a classic dude giant houses
that just have furniture that you don't using at all like i half the cost seems to be buying the
house and the other half of the cost seems to be buying ostentatious furniture to occupy it look
how rich i am to afford this much nothing i'm like you take the badminton center and then just put
like a one eames chair in it ideal living room oh no more concrete though all right you put walls
on it hit me Dan uh yo getting some new lids i loved the live demo from last week that's why i bought
these uh question for mr lime what was the driving force for you to start at ncis i just
really hated school and i really hated the job um doing running the painting business and i just
was so burnt out and uh down having a trash job is a really good motivator yeah well it was a it
was a paid well having and needing a job that you hate yeah pretty good motivator to do something
else and so i was just like i don't want to do this anymore i just want to do what i want to do
which is talk to people about technology and get paid for it uh what i really wanted to do is work
in the tech room but they they want to be in sales which probably was wise hey when did i
alone i have a question for Linus do you see murah on the big screen beyond did you see i did when i
got mine and it was quite visible on mind so i ended up returning it and going for the psv
r2 murah i thought this was a thing but i think it seems like it's an issue with it
murah effect i'm actually not familiar with the term moire yeah do you mean
yeah mori like when i wear my looks like a fine grainy mesh that covers the entire screen it stays
static as the image moves behind it usually more obvious in dim scenes um i can't say that i observed
that screen door effect i think it's the screen door but why would you just more why would you
not just call it screen door effect i don't know oh okay murah just mean screen door effect uh no i
didn't find that it was bad on that particular one i mean anything looks bad compared to the vision
pro at this point but um the vision pros utility is so limited that it's i'm just kind of waiting for
apple's displays to make their way into into other headsets and then i can have the best of
both worlds i can have an actual usable headset that has a really nice screen on it yeah i didn't
know the screen door had a name that's pretty cool yeah i didn't know that either so now i know
psv r2 for pc looks pretty sick though uh good choice anonymous and last curate i got for you
line us i want to ask you as a question have you as someone who was born before the internet
have you seen an increase in general hysteria due to technology changing parts of our lives
so rapidly that is a measured and objective thing that has happened it's hard for me to
observe it though because before the internet was widespread i was 10 i wasn't paying attention to
hysteria fair enough um and we definitely like had hysteria i think you can map it on even stages
of the internet like web 1.0 2.0 3.0 yeah i think that's fair i think that has happened as well
you know this has happened the end of the show we will see you again next week same bad time wait
oh hey thanks ludie same bad channel okay bye
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