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live live drops done you're an orc now always have been top done top done what

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needs to work hey quit it mean not that kind of orc

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noise I love how this like super late shows get into being exactly as on time

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as all the other shows to do that more often

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ah all right gamers oh I haven't actually tried like like being at my full

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volume like like what's up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show what's up

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everybody how you gamers doing welcome to the WAN Show Luke you're on the same

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audio setup you're always on we don't have to test we need to test this no we

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don't it's a big dog what's up big dog my laptop's a little low it looks fine on

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my end I have it balanced no no I mean the I mean I'm looking down my chin is

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down a lot you got some you when I'm looking at the dock yeah I'm gonna I'm

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gonna go try to find a little box or something yeah yeah imagine eating a

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box or something else got him doesn't even phase it anymore it doesn't even

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care I'm just gonna mute his mic temporarily unless he's trying to talk I

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don't know I think we can hear him but the stream can't I think that's how this

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works oh I thought he was leaving

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unmuted

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there we go that looks a little better if I have to look down at the dock then

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I'm not just like completely nice all right cool my my sitting really uneven

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yes all right there we go right oh I keep leaning why am I leaning oh I know

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why I'm leaning because the home row on laptops is slightly to the left okay

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there I'm just gonna go like this there okay there now I should I know I should

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be able to sit straight all my landmarks are in place nice hoodie nice hoodie

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bro nice non-infringing definitely not gonna get us in trouble hoodie are they

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like actual copy-paste of what or they legally distinct from what I don't know

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all right let's let's talk about it on show okay um some body wants told me

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not start that then why would you start that what's wrong with you I mean

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technically yes I'm using a webcam for my video but it's it is one of the

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bougiest of webcams for sure we need them as default now they're excellent does

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it come with that ring light thing the software yeah it comes with the software

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but the software doesn't work so I don't know yeah I don't know if I would

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endorse it for that reason yeah it's the razor one since we had it anyway we got

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it for that webcam roundup and I was like oh well I'm going away I'm gonna

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have to do a remote-want show well I should just whatever one's the best

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that's not like I have to pay more for a webcam I already have so I'll just take

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whatever the best one is and it's yeah it's pretty it's it's pretty nice yeah

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that was not a cat that was my ringtone I should meet my phone okay yes yes yes

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you know oh there's definitely no cat here bro another biggest TV again I

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feel that's so repetitive it's only repetitive if it's not bigger than the

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last one and this one is a much a much bigger than the last one bro another

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build guide very repetitive bro you're showing a graphics card of you very

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repetitive you're talking about computers again Linus what do you think you're

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doing it runs on electricity that's kind of derivative repetitive talking to

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Luke on Fridays very repetitive that's the most repetitive thing ever what are

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you doing Elijah speaking about phones with other people very repetitive moving

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vlog people have moved before very repetitive I mean we've we've reached

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our Simpsons did it era at this point yeah quite a while ago you released

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cables other people have released cables very repetitive I think we're up to

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10,000 videos like that across all the channels Dan would know the answer to

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the number I don't know it's like 12,000 why yeah it's ridiculous number go up

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uploading videos oh man people are getting me saying repetitive over and

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over again is very repetitive done ready when you guys are crap should we just

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should we just do it yeah no starting the Wancho is very repetitive do you want

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to start it and I'll let you know when we think you do that every Friday wow

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can't believe it I'll have to be live to stream wait till I say that thing at the

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end of the show super repetitive wait till I say the thing that I say at the

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beginning of the show I think we found out I think we found out why why I've

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fallen off it's all just repetitive to repetitive all right well and welcome to

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the show-show okay you know what no I'm gonna go to the washroom first I'll go to the washroom

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first then I'm ready to start okay muting I got you

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Luke switch spots no no no

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it's illegal I don't even want that to be weird ick you want you want to see me

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from that side dude it's this side this is the correct don't do that again it's

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weird isn't it yeah it's bad yucky it's not good if you rotate the thing the

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promise there's nothing left to rotate turning him upside down would just be

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weird so this mic upside down please don't yeah no I think we're good rotate

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his desktop I don't know man he wouldn't even know there is no headrest that's

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why I said there's nothing to flip oh you can't even see right now okay well

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there is no headrest they don't need to it's there's just no headrest my chair

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also has no headrest there you can see you can see this isn't moveable this is

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just the chair I don't know where the headrest even went I think they're new

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chairs a what really really maybe I don't know maybe they are

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the calf at the bottom put us down the problem is like none of this stuff is

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gonna bother him he's not here I can't affect he's an immunity bubble of not

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being on the set cheating man everyone's talking about flipping stuff and then

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Rooker said getting a female attention is probably a good thing and just the

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middle of nowhere and I have no idea what context that's supposed to be yes

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they are new chairs thank you Sean okay cool yeah there's nothing to flip I

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keep telling them there's nothing to flip they want me to flip something there's

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no headrest and you're also not here I can't like flip something where you are

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that doesn't work flip the bird all right settle down flip Linus yeah but then

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like if I flip this over it just looks stupid for the whole show yeah that's I

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think that's like feeding into what he wants yeah you guys don't understand it

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really is the original thing was that he flipped it over and then I would turn it

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the correct way now everything's the correct way and you guys are asking me

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to flip it over which is what he wants this is my whole point there's no three

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for me in the current state of the set and him not be there you go that's like

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the one thing we can do I'll fight you try to host the show that way would be

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insane those glorious though does this one work there we go wow all right let's

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start this thing okay there we go do you want to start me and I will call it or

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vice versa nope I'm not logged into the thing okay doki so you just call it and

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then and then we just go for it let me know when you're ready I'm ready okay

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wait no I'm not ready okay did you start it no okay I need a sweater okay

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what

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no that's what I looking fresh on you Jamie you got to get an official tag

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thing email support at flow my calm from your official work email and be like

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hey this is my this is my full plane account give me a thing because then we

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can then the whole chat can see that your official Jamie I forgot oh yeah no

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worries it's all good me just you know sometime I'll email for you

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I mean you could that'd be fine

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Jamie is more important than the others you have one Elijah you did this process

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what are you talking about all right here we go all right Dan sorry I'm ready

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for real now that's okay Luke are you ready yep for real for real and now I've

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lost the bloody there is one ready Dan okay doki really wasn't actually resuming

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selected this okay so it is resumed my hair doing today it happens you wear a

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helmet all day okay sorry it looks very young actually

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all right there you what's up everyone welcome to the WAN Show we got a great

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show for you guys this week of course the big news is discord requiring facial

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scans for age verification oh man you can you can tell how passionate the

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writing team is about a particular topic when you see Jordan is like I am

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going to very thoroughly talk about why this is very upsetting yeah yeah we're

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gonna be getting into that also oh man we had we had we had the other huge

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privacy nightmare did did anyone watch rings a Superbowl ad cuz I did yeah okay

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what else we got Luke get find me some good news you got the good news right

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modern standby won't train your pattern anymore maybe maybe possibly and yes

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slaps is already mobilizing to try to look into it because part of the

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question here is has anyone else verified this so we're gonna try it's

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it's gonna be difficult to conclusively verify but we're gonna try also let's see

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I have a machine that definitely is very often on in my backpack so it's it's a

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it's a chronic offender so maybe we could maybe we could work together in other

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great news mr. Beast just bought a banking app you picked that yeah what

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could go wrong just roll the intro

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the show is brought to you today by Razor Squarespace zero bounce and UPDF

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along with our rap partner dbrand our laptop partner Razor and our chair

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partner Razor good lord it's gonna be called the Razor show at some point

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with all the sponsorship money that Razor's throwing at the WAN Show I it's

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it's I mean thanks Razor first of all but also it's a little confusing because

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I think they went 10 years without doing anything with so okay they're they're

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back they're back hard all right why don't we why don't we jump right into our

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first topic today which is of course the big news from discord discord announced

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that it will start rolling out age verification globally beginning in March

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just five months after a breach from a third-party age verification vendor

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exposed the government IDs of around 70,000 discord users I don't think the

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timing for this could be a lot worse well no actually it could have been worse

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it could have been just four months after a breach but I think you understand

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what I mean the platform is going to automatically configure all user accounts

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for what they're calling a teen appropriate experience unless those users

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are proven to be adults now it is worth noting that apparently not everyone is

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going to have to submit proof of being an adult but the way that they get you

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know non-user submitted proof of your adulthood is not going to make you a lot

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happier than submitting the proof all right yeah first let's talk about what

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happens with users that are not verified adults they will not be able to

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access age-restricted servers or channels they won't be able to speak on

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stage channels they will see content filters for anything discord decides is

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graphic or sensitive they will see warnings about friend requests from

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users they might not know I mean honestly that's fine and will have dm's

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from unfamiliar users go into a separate inbox frankly those last two should

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just be platform-wide I'll die on that hill dm's from friends and interactions

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on non-age restricted servers will operate as they always have users with

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pre-existing subscriptions to restricted servers we'll have those oh this is

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wild we'll have those servers content obfuscated until they pass age

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verification checks the craziest part of this Luke and I feel like okay part of

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me wanted to wait until the end of you going through the information before

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talking about this but I feel like I just have to jump in right now the craziest

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part of this is they didn't have to do this there were some jurisdictions that

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are pushing for stronger child safety measures that are that are putting

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pressure on on social media platforms including discord to put these kinds of

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checks in place but then they didn't have to roll it out globally and we've

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seen this before sometimes it's a huge benefit to a user base you

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know when Apple gets a bunch of pressure from the EU to use USB type-c guess

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what we get USB-C iPhones everywhere so sometimes this works out really great

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but this is software so there was no real reason other than maintaining two

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forks I guess that they had to do this like do you have any thoughts on this

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as someone who you know has led a couple of software teams now currently yeah I

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mean I wouldn't want to touch this at all ever and like they talk about how

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they I think this is maybe in the notes somewhere again we haven't gone through

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all but yet but they talk about how they're gonna delete it immediately but

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then they also talk about we'll get into that I just mean like why would they

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maintain the two forks can you give me a reason why they would roll this out

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globally when a lot of the world is not putting any pressure on them to do this

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I think the two forks can be really annoying and I think they might see the

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wall a little bit that a lot of different countries are moving in this direction

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I mean that's fair that's that's fair the momentum is really building I can't

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believe how quickly we went from everyone kind of agrees that

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social just BS anyways oh no I was going somewhere else like social social

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media is like really bad for kids oh yeah and then like sometimes legislation

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can seem to move pretty quickly like there are there are you know minor phones

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right now it's moving pretty fast move pretty fast really did yeah it took

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forever to get anywhere and then it was like okay we're doing something okay

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got it all right let's let's let's keep talking speaking to the Verge

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discord's global head of product policy stated that and this is a quote for most

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adults age verification won't be required huh remember how I said though

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that you weren't necessarily going to like how they were doing that she went

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on to explain the discord's age inference model uses account information

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such as tenure device and activity data and high-level patterns to attempt to

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determine the user's age range so I guess I'm safe because I still use gifs

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which are apparently boomer meta now oh but I call them that which means you're

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obviously ancient so you're you're good you're in the clear for sure if the

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system is unable to infer a user's age the user will be prompted to take a video

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selfie for facial age estimation discord claims the video won't leave your device

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but as many commenters noted that does not mean that your biometric data is

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safe alternatively you can submit a scan of government issued ID along with a

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selfie as definitive proof of age age will be apparently estimated using the

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KID tool from Swiss based vendor privately discord claims images of

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documents are deleted in most cases immediately after age

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confirm it what does in most cases mean why would it not be in all cases and they

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also claim they don't keep the information from the ID which you know

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you tell a community like discord that oh yeah we're gonna you know we're only

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gonna do this with it and we're gonna delete it probably immediately and it

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will totally be fine of course they're gonna start you know pulling at every

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loose thread they can find so some discord users posted on reddit saying

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that policies for KID and privately don't exactly line up with what discord

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also think this is actually out of date information oh okay I full plane chat

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got me going down a path and then I started googling some things and it

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sounds like they've swapped out the KID plan okay no they're now going down they

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didn't do a like roll it back situation they just switched partners and now

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they're working with a company called persona and people in full plane chat

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I've not verified this yet are saying that persona is owned by Peter teal so

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wait this is out of date but not in a way that it is getting better in any way

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no like potentially worse yeah why you were for an actual fairly extended

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period of time in the UK as an experiment okay yeah sorry I there's

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some stuff going on here I'm not a hundred percent sure what it is there's

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a red thread from 11 hours ago like this is very new discord is assured its

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users that it is using KID for its facial age estimation this is a beaten

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switch KID is an on-device zero knowledge proof you can scan your face

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then KID runs an assessment model locally and estimates your age I mean that

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sounds pretty alright this court only receives a token let's say blah blah

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blah that sounds not too bad persona is a corporate partner of Palantir a

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spying surveillance company that blah blah blah blah they quote-unquote delete

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your information within minutes usually but they retain the embeddings the

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embeddings are machine readable portion of your face or ID something

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something something oh this is promise KID but is giving us persona this is all

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relatively new okay so I don't know about all this here's what we can say

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definitively we can say that so far the story from discord doesn't seem to be

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firmed up in a way that is making their community happy yeah I think we can say

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that many commenters have mentioned canceling nitro subscriptions and or

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moving to other platforms even if they don't get prompted to verify their

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accounts others have started placing bets on how long it'll take for discord

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to be hit with another breach because of course everybody bets on everything now

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this is not financial advice I would not get involved in that personally

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commenters have also brought up some pretty well I've a pretty familiar debate

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between the real name solved everything crowd and the privacy advocates

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reminding us that while there can be benefits to people using real names I

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you know okay well this is pretty early in the show for me to say something this

00:26:48.540 --> 00:26:55.020
controversial but I appreciate or at least appreciated before it was so full

00:26:55.020 --> 00:27:00.740
of spammers the real identity element of Facebook marketplace it was a lot easier

00:27:00.740 --> 00:27:04.900
to navigate knowing that for the most part these were real people yeah it's

00:27:04.900 --> 00:27:08.140
just scammers anyways now it's just scammers anyway they seem to have kind

00:27:08.140 --> 00:27:12.580
of overcome it yeah so there have been there has been at least one time when I

00:27:12.580 --> 00:27:19.300
personally enjoyed and appreciated that element of a web service but it's worth

00:27:19.300 --> 00:27:25.660
reminding even the people who do enjoy that vibe that online privacy can be a

00:27:25.660 --> 00:27:30.260
literal life-and-death issue sometimes and even when it's not life-and-death many

00:27:30.260 --> 00:27:33.400
folks have a good reason not to share their identities as explained by

00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:39.300
Redditor radia active truth this is a quote am I really going to associate my

00:27:39.300 --> 00:27:42.780
legal name with the PTSD groups that I'm part of because of course they're not

00:27:42.780 --> 00:27:49.040
safe for work so I would need to be age verified like do you know how sickening

00:27:49.040 --> 00:27:57.140
it would be to the hundreds of members there to have to put our legal names on experiences that scarred us right like there's so many perspectives there's so

00:27:57.140 --> 00:28:02.660
many ways that people use the internet and connect on the internet that rely

00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:12.840
on not being forced to upload a government issued ID okay Luke go ahead and

00:28:12.840 --> 00:28:20.440
say it oh just like this was obviously inevitable oh no I was gonna I was I

00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:23.840
wanted you to just tell us you already use TeamSpeak just like you already use

00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:28.280
Firefox because you're just that cool I do I do use TeamSpeak though like I

00:28:28.300 --> 00:28:33.780
actually do I okay I use an older version of TeamSpeak I I do think I

00:28:33.780 --> 00:28:37.300
have never used this one but I do think a lot of people are unaware so like okay

00:28:37.300 --> 00:28:40.780
hold on hold on hold on hold on I'm gonna go back speak the answer Luke is

00:28:40.780 --> 00:28:44.620
TeamSpeak the answer I think for most people the answer is going to be to stay

00:28:44.620 --> 00:28:49.580
on discord which is really sad I would encourage you to try something else now

00:28:49.580 --> 00:28:56.060
when we go back to the old greats Ventrilo is still showing off this this

00:28:56.080 --> 00:29:02.240
UI so okay that might not be working for a lot of people mumble is still showing

00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:09.280
off this UI so again it it might not be up there for a lot of people even though

00:29:09.280 --> 00:29:15.280
both of them are based I'm just saying but TeamSpeak is trying I haven't tried

00:29:15.280 --> 00:29:21.480
this version of TeamSpeak but they have like chat channels and server browsers

00:29:21.780 --> 00:29:28.380
and friends lists and chats and like it looks a lot like discord I when the

00:29:28.380 --> 00:29:32.260
group of people that I joined that was using TeamSpeak told me they're using

00:29:32.260 --> 00:29:40.460
TeamSpeak I was excited about this and then I realized that we're still using like I think TeamSpeak 3 or something nice also someone in chat said TeamSpeak

00:29:40.460 --> 00:29:45.220
6 is just a matrix server with a different UI which brings up matrix which

00:29:45.220 --> 00:29:49.060
is another thing a bunch people have been talking about I had that ready thank

00:29:49.080 --> 00:29:53.880
you thank you for priming me on that flowpoint chat matrix is another option

00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:58.800
that people are exploring things are built on top of this which I can't

00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:03.040
confirm that this is actually just built on top of matrix but it I mean that

00:30:03.040 --> 00:30:10.960
would maybe make sense but there there are there are other options I know a

00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.600
lot of people are going to run into this this thing and just go like well okay

00:30:15.620 --> 00:30:20.220
discord is the only thing out there for a weird blip of time people used Skype

00:30:20.220 --> 00:30:24.380
before then people used like yeah a huge variety of things mumble ventrilo

00:30:24.380 --> 00:30:30.060
TeamSpeak X fire a razor comms for four and a half minutes I was I was gonna say

00:30:30.060 --> 00:30:34.060
I was gonna say I mean the show is already brought to you by razor three

00:30:34.060 --> 00:30:37.980
other times why don't they resurrect comms yeah the show can be brought to you

00:30:37.980 --> 00:30:43.260
by razor comms but a discord did fully pull a Amazon Walmart maneuver and

00:30:43.280 --> 00:30:50.960
effectively kill everything else so there really isn't much but momentum yeah

00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:56.120
not much that has any meaningful sort of user base that they could that they

00:30:56.120 --> 00:31:01.840
could grow that they could kind of quickly grow from yeah yeah but there are

00:31:01.840 --> 00:31:04.920
efforts out there and I would implore you to at least check them out matrix

00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:09.720
sounds really exciting they're also I'm not gonna name them just because the

00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.000
open source people can be a little spicy sometimes but there's been a

00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:20.620
couple people in Floatplane chat that have been like yeah but matrix is kind of not great I've never personally used it but I've heard great things

00:31:20.620 --> 00:31:26.460
milia's points out that steam chat has actually improved a lot way better between

00:31:26.460 --> 00:31:32.660
the time that we actually relied on steam chat quite a bit and then discord

00:31:32.660 --> 00:31:40.140
took over and then was dominant valve has quietly continued to improve the

00:31:40.140 --> 00:31:47.080
social experiences of just using steam I mean I don't so I said what was lack

00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:53.120
slack is not an acceptable replacement for gaming groups in my opinion yeah

00:31:53.120 --> 00:32:01.000
that's a tough one and I don't love the the fact that steams social experiences

00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.720
which still aren't amazing are baked right into the steam platform I want

00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.580
something that is truly cross-platform and like okay yes they have the mobile

00:32:08.600 --> 00:32:18.320
app but like this is this feels like one of those things where if Microsoft and

00:32:18.320 --> 00:32:23.320
the Xbox team were like on it they you you know where I'm going with a hundred

00:32:23.320 --> 00:32:29.800
they were never will if they were dialed right yep like if they were dialed this

00:32:29.800 --> 00:32:33.840
would have been solved so long ago they were dialed they never would have

00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:39.140
abandoned MSN messenger and then now they would have like a gaming yeah version

00:32:39.140 --> 00:32:42.540
or something I don't know they would have some form of way to like tied into

00:32:42.540 --> 00:32:50.940
gaming if only Microsoft had known how enormous social networking social media

00:32:50.940 --> 00:32:57.500
was going to be because they were they were so far ahead they had all the

00:32:57.500 --> 00:33:01.940
mindshare all of it yeah nothing else mattered other than MSN and Skype which

00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:07.840
they bought like trillion was dead ICQ was dead aim was dead everything was

00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:13.320
dead they were just they were it only show in town yeah some people are saying

00:33:13.320 --> 00:33:18.880
like the hardest thing will be I think it was Elijah I don't know I lost it no

00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.240
it was Elijah the hardest thing would be getting whole groups to move like I have

00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:27.520
a server with 1500 people how do I move everyone yeah no that's really that's a

00:33:27.540 --> 00:33:33.060
great point yeah because you there will be there's also a lot of discord bots and

00:33:33.060 --> 00:33:39.540
discord integrations for different communities and stuff I discord is I

00:33:39.540 --> 00:33:47.780
think it's free to self-host I'm pretty sure so like maybe consider that

00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:56.840
because it's still free but like I don't know guys this isn't this isn't it I

00:33:56.840 --> 00:34:01.080
don't think I think we're still gonna be waiting for what it is but when you look

00:34:01.080 --> 00:34:06.320
at the mass of what discord is and then you try to tell me nitro is fully

00:34:06.320 --> 00:34:11.120
funding that platform sorry bro there's no way I don't believe I had this

00:34:11.120 --> 00:34:15.320
conversation with one of the writers the other day forget who it was but they

00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.980
were they were making the argument to me that yeah do you have any idea how

00:34:18.980 --> 00:34:22.300
much people spend on nitro and all that and I'm just looking at it going like I

00:34:22.300 --> 00:34:32.380
don't think it looks like they've they've gone I mean we've seen it so many

00:34:32.380 --> 00:34:36.620
times that I don't know why oh it was Elijah we've seen it so many times that I

00:34:36.620 --> 00:34:41.500
don't understand why we keep getting surprised by it a new service shows up

00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:47.000
it's totally free it's totally way better than anything else that you would

00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.040
probably have to pay for or is free and you know kind of jank because it's a

00:34:52.040 --> 00:34:55.240
handful of people that are working on it in their spare time like of course you've

00:34:55.240 --> 00:34:59.760
got mumble up on screen right now yep that checks out and everyone migrates to

00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:03.840
it they get the user base that they keep growing the user base which allows them

00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:09.720
to you know keep getting access to funding to keep burning money and then

00:35:09.720 --> 00:35:16.100
at some point the piper comes calling and they have to figure out how to make

00:35:16.100 --> 00:35:19.860
money on it and they come up with all these ideas and they convert some of the

00:35:19.860 --> 00:35:25.980
users to paid but it's it's not enough I don't think I'm convinced that nitro is

00:35:25.980 --> 00:35:32.820
enough geek power points out there are ads in discord yep fair enough as someone

00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:38.980
who uses it unpaid with no nitro and okay admittedly I do have I do have a

00:35:39.040 --> 00:35:45.240
pretty solid built-in ad block into my brain but I have I don't think I've ever

00:35:45.240 --> 00:35:49.600
seen an ad in discord I've okay they bother me about nitro but I just

00:35:49.600 --> 00:35:53.760
dismissed that pretty good there are cosmetics I know very few people that

00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:58.240
have paid cosmetics there are free well I know people that have those okay yeah

00:35:58.240 --> 00:36:01.680
right you only need a few whales you only need a few whales when it comes to

00:36:01.680 --> 00:36:06.400
cosmetics I still think there's gonna be just like what happens with basically

00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:12.460
every platform I think there's gonna be a major we want to make more money now

00:36:12.460 --> 00:36:16.100
push at some point and they've been slowly creeping towards it and maybe

00:36:16.100 --> 00:36:21.700
it'll just continue to be slowly but yeah and then the other part is as you

00:36:21.700 --> 00:36:26.300
acquire all these users you're you're kind of caught between a rock in a hard

00:36:26.300 --> 00:36:30.420
place right like you're you're caught between this need to monetize the user

00:36:30.420 --> 00:36:36.560
base that you don't have because or you that you haven't figured out because you

00:36:36.560 --> 00:36:40.320
were like okay but we'll deal with that later and then you're caught between

00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:46.280
that and the regulatory burden that exists for extremely large platforms

00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.720
regardless of how much money they're making like if you had a social media

00:36:49.720 --> 00:36:55.600
platform that had a hundred million users you're going to be under intense

00:36:55.600 --> 00:37:00.080
scrutiny whether you're making a billion dollars a year or losing a billion

00:37:00.100 --> 00:37:03.380
dollars a year it doesn't really matter just because you're so influential

00:37:03.380 --> 00:37:07.020
whiskey nerd points out that the discord IPO was supposed to be next month in

00:37:07.020 --> 00:37:13.380
March yeah that's something that's okay I saw a conspiracy theory that this is

00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:22.020
like 4d chess trying to somehow manipulate the public perception towards

00:37:22.020 --> 00:37:26.540
discord right before the IPO because that was the only explanation they could

00:37:26.540 --> 00:37:33.120
come up with for why they would do something this upsetting to their user

00:37:33.120 --> 00:37:39.920
base right before they go public but and maybe this is just me not being you

00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:46.320
know stock market brained enough but could there possibly be any reason for

00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:53.480
you to want your company to be worth less before you go IPO I thought you

00:37:53.500 --> 00:38:01.580
want to juice the valuation before you go IPO that's weird hit me up hit come

00:38:01.580 --> 00:38:08.300
on maybe that's the like Palantir adjacent push working with persona

00:38:08.300 --> 00:38:09.940
because that's a that's a weird move

00:38:18.060 --> 00:38:23.380
all publicity is good publicity says Advocatis diaboli most equities

00:38:23.380 --> 00:38:28.600
trading is bots bots don't care about product sentiment okay that's that

00:38:28.600 --> 00:38:32.680
second part though is an it's an interesting point but if they bleed

00:38:32.680 --> 00:38:38.040
users bots probably care about that a little bit tank the initial price go

00:38:38.040 --> 00:38:42.760
public then once you buy a ton you roll back the bad stuff and go up once you

00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:46.480
own it no because then you wouldn't just you just wouldn't IPO in the first

00:38:46.540 --> 00:38:48.860
place you would just keep owning the stock

00:38:52.860 --> 00:38:58.860
will we control the running costs I really I really don't think that's it

00:38:58.860 --> 00:39:02.580
because we'll see how much people actually care is what this ultimately is

00:39:02.580 --> 00:39:06.660
going to lead to because like you hear really really loud noises about so many

00:39:06.660 --> 00:39:12.700
different things gambling micro transactions and video games all these

00:39:12.700 --> 00:39:23.880
different things then you see the user behavior is to just use it more than ever yeah I I think I think the ultimate reaction to this is going to be nothing

00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:29.800
and that's kind of sad but I mean I'm gonna go check out you know team speak

00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:33.880
six or whatever this is see how cool it is maybe it's cool maybe it's not maybe

00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:39.800
it'll be a real alternative maybe it won't be but I'm interested okay cool

00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:44.640
that's a pretty depressing note to end that on but let's get right into let's

00:39:44.700 --> 00:39:49.040
get right into a an update for you guys whale land brought to you by threat

00:39:49.040 --> 00:39:54.360
locker do you want to throw the schedule up on screen Luke is just one

00:39:54.360 --> 00:40:00.180
count them one week away we've got an extensive lineup of game scheduled for

00:40:00.180 --> 00:40:05.280
the stage the 8v8 arena and the lounge with locally hosted lobbies for a

00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:10.700
bunch of games including Battlefront 2 tribes to and other classics like Halo

00:40:10.720 --> 00:40:15.080
custom edition you can enjoy some classic split screen or local multiplayer

00:40:15.080 --> 00:40:19.040
action in the gaming lounge we'll have a lineup of party games ranging from 8 to

00:40:19.040 --> 00:40:22.400
12 players at once and we'll be hosting a smash bros tournament in the lounge on

00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:26.680
Saturday we're pulling up to the land with the new and improved modified

00:40:26.680 --> 00:40:32.560
fire truck featuring okay hold on it only has some of this stuff so far so

00:40:32.560 --> 00:40:36.720
don't read out all of this but it definitely has a super custom Nintendo

00:40:36.720 --> 00:40:40.160
switch to themed gaming TV setup in the back so you can check out the fire

00:40:40.180 --> 00:40:47.700
truck in person oh yeah and we just got comfort oh no way seriously we just got

00:40:47.700 --> 00:40:53.780
confirmation today that just like LTX 2023 we will have a custom screwdriver

00:40:53.780 --> 00:40:59.420
station on site oh whoa really I had no idea this is the first time hearing of

00:40:59.420 --> 00:41:06.100
it but that's pretty cool that is cool so we'll see you guys there I have I

00:41:06.100 --> 00:41:09.980
ever explicitly said that you and I are gonna be there like we've talked about

00:41:10.120 --> 00:41:15.000
whale land a lot but did we clarify that oh man I got my date screwed I am

00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:19.120
gonna be there to be clear as the spoiler I am gonna be there the whole

00:41:19.120 --> 00:41:22.680
time everything's fine everything's okay but I got my date screwed up and I

00:41:22.680 --> 00:41:30.440
thought that thing that's coming this weekend that I told you about was that weekend and I was like no and then figured out that I'm all clear I'm all

00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:39.480
good so I'll be there jeez Luke I was real upset for a moment anyway tickets

00:41:39.540 --> 00:41:47.820
are available at LMG dot GG slash whale land we will see you there I gotta jump

00:41:47.820 --> 00:41:52.460
back into something because somebody in chat reminded me of something I was

00:41:52.460 --> 00:41:58.340
gonna say where to go deep blue v7 said our our servers for our open source

00:41:58.340 --> 00:42:02.100
chat solution have been buckling under all the people signing up maybe just

00:42:02.100 --> 00:42:06.180
temporary but usually some people stay at least and that's awesome I'm very

00:42:06.180 --> 00:42:09.180
happy for and I really don't want this come across negative but something I was

00:42:09.200 --> 00:42:13.320
planning on saying for this segment was that if like say team speaks users for

00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:21.040
example double quadruple I don't think discord will even notice the the the

00:42:21.040 --> 00:42:26.440
mass that discord has right now is insane and one thing that this might help

00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:31.920
is like your open source project maybe you guys get bigger and maybe team speak

00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:40.740
it's bigger and maybe these other solutions get bigger and maybe they become at least seen as a viable actual alternative that alone in my opinion

00:42:40.740 --> 00:42:45.620
would be a huge win because right now it's it's nothing people basically just

00:42:45.620 --> 00:42:52.300
use discord or nothing it's it's only discord so if we can at least normalize

00:42:52.300 --> 00:42:57.260
that there are alternatives even if we can't take a real actual sizable chunk

00:42:57.260 --> 00:43:02.580
out but if we can just normalize there being alternatives I think that would be

00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.720
awesome so just try to keep that in mind I don't think we're gonna be able to

00:43:06.720 --> 00:43:12.200
make a real dent to discord but this is a this is a slow war not a fast one I

00:43:12.200 --> 00:43:21.560
think all right do you want to pick our next topic sure modern standby won't

00:43:21.560 --> 00:43:25.600
drain your battery anymore according to Microsoft Windows 11 yeah according

00:43:25.600 --> 00:43:29.720
according to Microsoft can also be used that way Windows 11 background

00:43:29.720 --> 00:43:34.100
processes won't trigger modern standby issues meaning you'll no longer see

00:43:34.100 --> 00:43:38.740
excessive battery drain when your machine should be in the s0 sleep state

00:43:38.740 --> 00:43:45.380
previously certain process previously certain processes previously certain

00:43:45.380 --> 00:43:49.100
processes were able to break the machine out of the sleep state without the

00:43:49.100 --> 00:43:55.340
user's knowledge leading to unexpected battery use and in many cases it is now

00:43:55.340 --> 00:43:59.540
stored somewhere that it's difficult for it to breathe so like a backpack or

00:43:59.540 --> 00:44:02.840
something like that and it can also go into really really bad thermal situations

00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:10.880
and and and those thermal situations can be exacerbated by the use of say for

00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:18.640
example liquid metal thermal interface material which when when when it's

00:44:18.640 --> 00:44:23.680
stored in a backpack completely enclosed and the laptop gets super hot for no

00:44:23.680 --> 00:44:29.520
reason whatsoever and is on its side for a extended period of time can lead to

00:44:29.520 --> 00:44:37.500
some pretty bad stuff oh yeah it can lead to unexpected battery use naturally in

00:44:37.500 --> 00:44:40.500
a good environment it can lead to other even worse things in a bad environment

00:44:40.500 --> 00:44:46.900
in newer builds Windows will now try to prevent the PC from waking up try without

00:44:46.900 --> 00:44:50.700
the user opening the lid or pressing the power button the discussion question is

00:44:50.700 --> 00:44:54.900
has anyone not employed by Microsoft confirm this is actually fixed I don't

00:44:54.900 --> 00:44:58.860
think anyone's completed testing on this yet I'm sure other people are and

00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:02.840
please check theirs out as well but Labs is gonna be is gonna be cooking on this

00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.840
a little bit we obviously have other things we're already working on but

00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.760
this is something we will be looking to as well so hopefully we'll have updates

00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:14.560
for you there I'm sure there will be an article if nothing else and yeah I hope

00:45:14.560 --> 00:45:17.560
other people check it out too because this is gonna be something that's

00:45:17.560 --> 00:45:23.960
relatively difficult to conclusively make statements okay I have a fantastic

00:45:24.500 --> 00:45:31.940
test system for you my elite book that I've been daily driving lately is I would

00:45:31.940 --> 00:45:40.940
say a solid like one out of eight times is gonna be like piping hot when I take

00:45:40.940 --> 00:45:46.140
it out of my backpack my backpack and so it comes up for me a lot just because

00:45:46.140 --> 00:45:51.740
this is kind of funny I haven't had a desktop at work for like a year it was

00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:56.840
back when I did the qualcomm snapdragon 30 day challenge I stopped using my

00:45:56.840 --> 00:46:00.760
desktop because I was supposed to be using snapdragon for a month and then I

00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:09.040
had some issues with my NCIX PC desktop and then I just never went back to not

00:46:09.040 --> 00:46:14.760
just using my laptop on a dock even though I went back to x86 more recently

00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:20.920
with a strict halo machine so that that HP I'd look I don't know that I would

00:46:20.940 --> 00:46:27.340
necessarily blame HP for this but I run into this all the flipping time and it

00:46:27.340 --> 00:46:33.260
is so freaking annoying people are very rightfully pointing out that MacBooks

00:46:33.260 --> 00:46:38.180
don't really have this issue nope and also pointing out that Linux laptops

00:46:38.180 --> 00:46:44.620
don't really have this issue nope yeah that's totally fair I mean hey we're

00:46:44.620 --> 00:46:50.340
we're kicking the Linux challenge off I think in this next coming week right

00:46:50.640 --> 00:47:00.440
yeah and I told I told Elijah I want five drives so my desktop upstairs my

00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:07.680
desktop downstairs my work laptop my my oh my hand held and then I think there

00:47:07.680 --> 00:47:11.640
was there was one other one I was like I'm doing it Luke I'm going for it this

00:47:11.640 --> 00:47:19.160
time yeah I'm not gonna touch Windows for do we do we help each other at all

00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:29.760
interesting like how much like because okay so here hold on let me put it this

00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:35.240
way I think I agree with you but I have some comments because I would think you

00:47:35.240 --> 00:47:40.920
know a very community driven initiative like Linux right you would think well

00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:46.080
yeah community is why not your immediate part of it right yeah and if your

00:47:46.100 --> 00:47:53.940
community was like Linux noobs you know who are who are also who are who are

00:47:53.940 --> 00:47:58.540
also on this journey at the same time I would say that that is is kosher I'd

00:47:58.540 --> 00:48:02.700
say that that's fair game but I don't think some of the other folks in our

00:48:02.700 --> 00:48:06.100
cohort would really qualify as a Linux noob and then where do we draw the line

00:48:06.100 --> 00:48:12.420
like am I allowed to call Wendell you know I feel like for me I kind of still

00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:16.640
want to be me I'm not gonna completely pretend to not know anything because

00:48:16.640 --> 00:48:21.320
this is not my first kick at the can but I'm but I'm not gonna just leverage the

00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:25.920
resources that I have I like I think Elijah has a line in the script that's

00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.240
something along along the lines of like not everyone has torvolds on speed dial

00:48:29.240 --> 00:48:35.760
right like you can't we can't we can't just we can't be us either it has to be

00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:41.120
somewhere in the middle Elijah just trying to flex as per use yeah okay

00:48:41.140 --> 00:48:49.940
fair enough I mean it's a pretty cool flex yeah yeah I I'm not sure how this is

00:48:49.940 --> 00:48:56.780
gonna go for me I think yours is gonna be kind of boring just might be you're

00:48:56.780 --> 00:49:04.060
like dailying it already yeah but like it's it also it hasn't truly been daily

00:49:04.060 --> 00:49:07.940
because that laptop has had so many hardware issues that has been bouncing

00:49:07.940 --> 00:49:11.480
back and forth between getting serviced and coming back to me that sometimes I

00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:16.920
end up back on Windows for a while and then I go back to running various

00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:22.080
versions of Linux Linux is never saying genuinely never been the problem and I

00:49:22.080 --> 00:49:25.720
have verified multiple times that it happens I have two drives in the machine

00:49:25.720 --> 00:49:31.400
now so I have one for Windows and one for Linux well not realistically I have

00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:41.460
one that is split in half for Windows and Linux then I have a storage drive but whatever you know what I mean and it yeah they they want me to like try to

00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:44.500
verify that it's working under Windows they just don't believe me so it's like

00:49:44.500 --> 00:49:48.620
okay I'm running Windows and I ran into the same problem again thank you please

00:49:48.620 --> 00:49:53.900
fix and then after I have it for like a little while if I know they're gonna

00:49:53.900 --> 00:49:57.180
repair it I go back to Linux anyways because that's what I want to be using

00:49:57.180 --> 00:50:02.660
but I've been like verifying the issues within Windows and it's a problem in

00:50:02.680 --> 00:50:09.920
both it's definitely like hardware issues with the laptop it has nothing to do software at all but that's so yeah I've been bouncing back and forth so I can't

00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:14.160
quite say that I've been daily it but I have been fairly actively using it for a

00:50:14.160 --> 00:50:17.440
long time now and feel pretty comfortable in it but I'm also not really

00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.680
gaming much on that laptop I find personally and I'm genuinely not

00:50:22.680 --> 00:50:26.640
intentionally calling anyone out here but even even a video that I publicly

00:50:26.640 --> 00:50:32.320
said I liked a lot and I do like a lot whenever you see creators do like

00:50:32.340 --> 00:50:39.340
Linux I switched challenges it's always framed as a challenge and that always

00:50:39.340 --> 00:50:44.100
involves doing things that are particularly difficult in Linux I don't

00:50:44.100 --> 00:50:48.300
even okay this stood out let me finish talking this stood out to me because when

00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:52.660
I switched Linux on my laptop I just did what I always do and it was literally

00:50:52.660 --> 00:50:58.420
never a problem all right ever but everyone always has like a thing and

00:50:58.600 --> 00:51:03.480
it's very common that it's creators and creators always have to edit videos and

00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:08.680
this is like a known problem is it like Premiere doesn't work very well right so

00:51:08.680 --> 00:51:11.720
they run into like the editing videos problem and then they're like oops it

00:51:11.720 --> 00:51:15.240
doesn't work and it's like yeah okay well that was predictable because all the

00:51:15.240 --> 00:51:19.080
other I switched videos also tried to edit videos and also had problems so

00:51:19.080 --> 00:51:25.080
it's like yeah all right let the record show that that right there was

00:51:25.100 --> 00:51:29.500
definitive proof that anything can happen once Luke did in fact get to finish

00:51:29.500 --> 00:51:37.020
talking but I'm still gonna jump in now that you're done and defend myself yeah

00:51:37.020 --> 00:51:42.580
I don't think anything that we tried to do as part of our last I switched was

00:51:42.580 --> 00:51:49.700
unrealistic or unreasonable because I wasn't trying to I wasn't trying to

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:56.040
switch was video our last I switch was pretty successful though I mean I had a

00:51:56.040 --> 00:51:59.800
lot of issues I'm not necessarily saying I had a problem with our previous run at

00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:10.080
it oh okay I just like in general I think the I don't know I would implore the

00:52:10.080 --> 00:52:14.880
audience to pay attention to the things that you know we the three of us or

00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:19.520
anyone else has actual problems with instead of just their conclusion being

00:52:19.540 --> 00:52:24.020
that there was some problems with what they were doing like if they if they

00:52:24.020 --> 00:52:30.700
play you know if you play games that are proton platinum and you just run some

00:52:30.700 --> 00:52:35.220
basic applications and spend the vast majority of your time in a web browser

00:52:35.220 --> 00:52:43.700
like an enormously massive percentage of users then in a lot of cases you know

00:52:43.700 --> 00:52:47.540
what I actually won't say this is a definitive statement I suspect in a lot

00:52:47.560 --> 00:52:54.320
of cases it's gonna be totally fine but we'll see how it ends up going yeah all

00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.880
right I can't see Dan's Luke saying there's a negative connotation to

00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:03.320
challenge that suggests there was a problem that's part of it but I think

00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.960
it's that is definitely part of it but I also think people put themselves in

00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:12.560
situations intentionally sometimes it's like it's like the whole throwing for

00:53:12.560 --> 00:53:17.780
content thing right you put yourself in situations intentionally that will

00:53:17.780 --> 00:53:22.520
cause contention and will cause issues because that is insanely more

00:53:22.520 --> 00:53:27.120
interesting on camera if I went to explain my laptop experience with Linux

00:53:27.120 --> 00:53:31.760
on camera I would sit down and be like it was fine I used a web browser and it

00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:37.500
was it was fine it was fine I didn't have any problems I had to update it and

00:53:37.500 --> 00:53:42.540
then I went okay that's how and then I updated it and it was fine like

00:53:42.540 --> 00:53:46.980
no one's gonna care about that so so you have to like do something like they're

00:53:46.980 --> 00:53:50.260
literally promoting Linux by putting it in difficult situations that it's not

00:53:50.260 --> 00:53:53.260
gonna do well at because then at least more people will see the video and you

00:53:53.260 --> 00:53:56.780
might get more people to adopt it like I'm not going after the creators here to

00:53:56.780 --> 00:53:59.820
be clear it's just it's a complicated situation I just want people to

00:53:59.820 --> 00:54:04.340
understand that like just because it has problems doing certain things doesn't

00:54:04.340 --> 00:54:08.900
mean that it will always for one and for two doesn't mean that you're necessarily

00:54:08.940 --> 00:54:13.740
doing that like how many people in the audience are actually edit videos okay

00:54:13.740 --> 00:54:18.580
that is such a that is such a hilarious thing for you to bring up because so

00:54:18.580 --> 00:54:27.820
much of how we make decisions is totally not based on what we actually do

00:54:27.820 --> 00:54:34.140
dude we know we from we from GPU review videos that we make oh yeah and look at

00:54:34.140 --> 00:54:41.860
Apple's marketing how laser focused are they on you know on how creative you

00:54:41.860 --> 00:54:46.700
can be with your iPhone and there is absolutely a subset of the users that

00:54:46.700 --> 00:54:52.220
are you know gonna be you know the next filmmakers you know the next generation

00:54:52.220 --> 00:54:56.580
of filmmakers but there's also a lot of users that are just sitting in Starbucks

00:54:56.580 --> 00:55:00.180
browsing Facebook on their MacBook and that's all they were realistically ever

00:55:00.180 --> 00:55:03.500
gonna do on it and they could have had a Chromebook and they would have had quite

00:55:03.540 --> 00:55:08.340
literally exactly the same user experience yeah my phone is largely sold on

00:55:08.340 --> 00:55:14.820
its camera and 90% of the photos that I take are of my parking spots like the

00:55:14.820 --> 00:55:21.980
most Luke thing you've said at least today I was reviewing my photos from

00:55:21.980 --> 00:55:34.780
New York and it's it's it's where I parked my car at the airport it's funny

00:55:34.780 --> 00:55:38.140
because there's certain things that you do and there's certain places that you

00:55:38.140 --> 00:55:42.100
go you take a lot of that is true like when you went to that I'm gonna ask her

00:55:42.100 --> 00:55:47.740
and that get away from it all place you went in Taiwan yeah you took a ton of

00:55:47.740 --> 00:55:51.460
pictures there like you were you were behaving like a like a relative I

00:55:51.460 --> 00:56:01.300
haven't seen in a couple years how many pictures you wanted to show me like it was crazy yeah that's true but other than that like like you almost seem weird

00:56:01.300 --> 00:56:08.740
it out if I pull out a phone that dinner and I'm like let's take a picture to what

00:56:08.740 --> 00:56:19.660
end yeah for some reason my brain's like people or building no leaf yes rock

00:56:19.700 --> 00:56:27.940
yes I don't know parking spot triple yeah yeah yeah for sure every time will you

00:56:27.940 --> 00:56:31.300
actually use this reference someone said bird yeah that's true I have become that

00:56:31.300 --> 00:56:38.140
guy you're such a bird I don't know how it happened well my thumbs up is in the

00:56:38.140 --> 00:56:43.940
frame as well I'll be like yeah good bird if I had told you when I met you that

00:56:43.940 --> 00:56:47.820
you were gonna turn into a weird bird dad you'd have been like no that's stupid

00:56:47.820 --> 00:56:54.300
birds are stupid yeah like 100% yeah yeah there are ways you've been like

00:56:54.300 --> 00:57:00.420
there are a waste of time and money yeah honestly yeah yeah unbelievable that's

00:57:00.420 --> 00:57:08.940
still not necessarily untrue but I do like them a lot all right on the subject

00:57:08.940 --> 00:57:19.220
of taking pictures ring no ring is a company that is owned by Amazon and it

00:57:19.220 --> 00:57:24.740
takes a lot of pictures of your front porch and paid big bucks for a super

00:57:24.740 --> 00:57:31.740
bull ad to celebrate or announce or whatever whatever they were trying to

00:57:31.740 --> 00:57:36.900
do is not what ultimately happened but to promote their search party tool which

00:57:36.940 --> 00:57:43.060
allows anyone in the US ring owner or not to launch a search for their lost

00:57:43.060 --> 00:57:50.660
dogs using all the ring cameras in their neighborhood now hold on a second just

00:57:50.660 --> 00:57:54.700
give me one second here I can see the look on your face you know I can see you

00:57:54.700 --> 00:58:03.060
even though I'm remote right just contain yourself as someone who has lost

00:58:03.420 --> 00:58:10.020
multiple pets and who cried multiple tears multiple times over losing

00:58:10.020 --> 00:58:20.060
multiple pets I understand the sales pitch here yeah I get it however if

00:58:20.060 --> 00:58:25.060
you're in that moment if if if ten minutes ago you recognized that your pet

00:58:25.060 --> 00:58:30.820
is gone in that moment a lot of people are gonna want this thing even if right

00:58:30.860 --> 00:58:35.100
now they don't not everyone so people will hold true to their their you know

00:58:35.100 --> 00:58:43.660
their line however however this launch coming just a few months after ring

00:58:43.660 --> 00:58:47.300
announced a partnership with law enforcement surveillance provider

00:58:47.300 --> 00:58:55.900
flock safety was received with really an immediate and completely predictable

00:58:55.900 --> 00:59:04.060
response from just everyone with the EFF calling the feature a surveillance

00:59:04.060 --> 00:59:13.820
nightmare look if Amazon and ring was a company that I had any kind of trust in

00:59:13.820 --> 00:59:21.180
whatsoever right any kind of trust in whatsoever and they announced this like

00:59:21.340 --> 00:59:29.180
lost dog feature and it was a core part of the design of the product that all of

00:59:29.180 --> 00:59:37.740
the image recognition was done locally on device and that was opt-in and and and

00:59:37.740 --> 00:59:45.260
and it's something that as someone as a pet dad who has has lost a pet that got

00:59:45.260 --> 00:59:53.420
out it's something that I I would crave you know that I could want but the last

00:59:53.420 --> 00:59:59.620
two companies that I could have any interest yeah really in administering

01:00:11.420 --> 01:00:20.620
irrevocably yes that's the basically they could never earn my trust back the way

01:00:20.620 --> 01:00:30.700
that they have handled security and data privacy man flock and persona aka peer

01:00:30.700 --> 01:00:38.020
to deal getting into consumer stuff is not fun that being like a primary thread

01:00:38.020 --> 01:00:42.780
of today's show is not that cool it is worth noting by the way that they

01:00:42.780 --> 01:00:50.020
apparently ditched the flock partnership but like okay doesn't that just tell us

01:00:50.020 --> 01:00:57.060
everything we need to know about them how they choose their partners like I

01:00:57.060 --> 01:01:02.740
don't want to I don't want to be I don't want to be like that but you know if

01:01:02.740 --> 01:01:14.100
someone is if someone say for example was married to someone abhorrent and you

01:01:14.100 --> 01:01:19.660
know doesn't seem to have a problem with it you know like what's our what's our

01:01:19.660 --> 01:01:25.140
nuts let's let's use a historical example Eva Braun or Eva Braun excuse me

01:01:25.500 --> 01:01:34.380
okay is that's Hitler's wife oh like I never does it does it not tell us anything

01:01:34.380 --> 01:01:38.580
about her just how she chooses her partner it's like yeah at some point

01:01:38.580 --> 01:01:43.220
she cut ties with Hitler or whatever well they kind of both cut ties with the

01:01:43.220 --> 01:01:46.380
world at the same time but that's a whole separate thing you know like just

01:01:46.380 --> 01:01:50.820
because she divorces the guy does that not still tell us a fair bit about him

01:01:50.820 --> 01:01:57.060
especially if the circumstances of cutting ties were because of public

01:01:57.060 --> 01:02:01.780
pressure like doesn't that just doesn't it still tell us a lot about the kind of

01:02:01.780 --> 01:02:06.620
decision-making process that's going on behind closed doors is this called is

01:02:06.620 --> 01:02:12.620
this a thing so a zosis or whatever says Godwin's law like is this just like

01:02:12.620 --> 01:02:18.580
birds of a feather kind of thing what's Godwin's law I'm no I'm not reading the

01:02:18.700 --> 01:02:24.180
overview is an internet adage asserting as an online discussion grows longer the

01:02:24.180 --> 01:02:28.460
probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches but no okay

01:02:28.460 --> 01:02:32.900
very funny I actually thought this was a pretty good comparison Linus I will

01:02:32.900 --> 01:02:37.820
give you that thank you I just for other people that might be confused I was

01:02:37.820 --> 01:02:41.460
like I didn't think they did yeah they did not divorce I understand he's doing

01:02:41.460 --> 01:02:45.260
the comparison here because themselves yeah yeah he's doing the comparison to

01:02:45.260 --> 01:02:50.060
divorce here because Amazon and flock are no longer working together yeah but

01:02:50.060 --> 01:02:57.020
yeah and you know what like Avon Fox and Floatplane chat points out okay what

01:02:57.020 --> 01:03:00.860
if this person was manipulated or in a relationship due to pressure or whatever

01:03:00.860 --> 01:03:06.060
you did yeah okay yes that's fair it's not a perfect analogy please the the

01:03:06.060 --> 01:03:12.020
point is just that Amazon as a company clearly chose to partner with flock okay

01:03:12.340 --> 01:03:17.540
if Linus media group chose to partner with flock and then you guys got super mad

01:03:17.540 --> 01:03:26.500
about it predictably and then I said oh wow yeah wow that oh you guys are so

01:03:26.500 --> 01:03:31.580
right we should have never done that we're we're not doing that anymore wow

01:03:31.580 --> 01:03:40.860
I'm so glad that come on that's how you know has it not and we're not okay flock

01:03:40.860 --> 01:03:44.900
okay I don't think you could draw a direct parallel to anything like maybe not

01:03:44.900 --> 01:03:48.140
someone as bad as flock but we've worked with we've worked with brands someone

01:03:48.140 --> 01:03:51.660
just pointed out anchor yeah we've worked with brands someone said raid

01:03:51.660 --> 01:03:56.300
shadow legends we've worked with brands that we've been you know what maybe you

01:03:56.300 --> 01:04:01.060
guys are right let's pull back on that but flock literally like no I agree this

01:04:01.060 --> 01:04:05.220
scale is not the same but I'm just saying like this this can't be extrapolated

01:04:05.220 --> 01:04:11.860
fully so you can absolutely make mistakes but in this case I'm talking

01:04:11.860 --> 01:04:18.660
about partnering with again an abhorrent organization that it has complete

01:04:18.660 --> 01:04:24.820
and utter disregard for user security and privacy and some in some cases like

01:04:24.820 --> 01:04:30.940
rage shadow legends never led to anyone being you know falsely harassed by law

01:04:30.980 --> 01:04:36.660
enforcement or you know rage shadow legends never got anyone that never had

01:04:36.660 --> 01:04:41.460
anyone have a gun pointed at them because of it let's be real here guys I

01:04:41.460 --> 01:04:48.260
think these these two birds of the same feather whatever I'm trying to use the

01:04:48.260 --> 01:04:56.860
flock analogy yeah I don't know how much they mind it do be Amazon after all FTC

01:04:56.860 --> 01:05:01.820
this is a older 2023 but FTC and DOJ charge Amazon with violating children's

01:05:01.820 --> 01:05:06.220
privacy law by keeping kids Alexa voice recordings forever and undermining

01:05:06.220 --> 01:05:12.060
parents deletion requests Amazon just do be Amazon at the end of the day maybe

01:05:12.060 --> 01:05:17.860
they're kind of chill with with flock and the other thing raising that and the

01:05:17.860 --> 01:05:21.460
other thing is that it has to do with like our knowledge at the time if we

01:05:21.460 --> 01:05:26.780
announced a partnership with flock today when you've heard me on stream talking

01:05:26.780 --> 01:05:31.300
about the horrible things that they've done and making it clear how horrible I

01:05:31.300 --> 01:05:36.260
think they are like we know there's no precedent in LMG's history for anything

01:05:36.260 --> 01:05:40.180
like that like people are bringing up people are kind of trying to sort of

01:05:40.180 --> 01:05:43.460
poke poke holes in it here someone brought up the honey thing it's like

01:05:43.460 --> 01:05:47.900
yeah but we didn't know any of that we still have a huge we did and we stopped

01:05:47.900 --> 01:05:51.460
working with them as soon as we did like that that's the difference whereas when

01:05:51.460 --> 01:05:55.660
you announce a partnership with someone that you know is horrible then it's a

01:05:55.660 --> 01:06:05.420
completely different situation April Fool's video idea good lord oh what is

01:06:05.420 --> 01:06:15.820
we're partnering with flock yeah new new LTT Store webcams oh my god that's how

01:06:15.820 --> 01:06:24.180
we can use Twitter new Twitter cams barbed by flock

01:06:25.020 --> 01:06:32.060
it's a fin 724 and float playing chat says do not do that you will never

01:06:32.060 --> 01:06:37.300
recover and you're so right the number of time funny though dude the number of

01:06:37.300 --> 01:06:41.580
times I run up against people who legitimately believe horrible things

01:06:41.660 --> 01:06:46.740
about me because I joked about it or because I said it in April Fool's

01:06:46.740 --> 01:06:57.380
video is distressingly high my this is the reason that actors like Dwayne

01:06:57.380 --> 01:07:02.620
Johnson have no lose clauses in their contracts because people will actually

01:07:02.620 --> 01:07:07.860
watch someone be acting on TV and be stupid enough to think that they're

01:07:07.860 --> 01:07:11.380
weak because they lost a fight in a movie that they were scripted to lose

01:07:12.260 --> 01:07:16.020
which I think you know I think you can be comfortable just not caring about

01:07:16.020 --> 01:07:22.540
those people's opinions though I think I think that can be okay Luke I wish I

01:07:22.540 --> 01:07:29.180
wish that this was an isolated small tiny minority Luke I think you dig pretty

01:07:29.180 --> 01:07:37.700
hard to find comments sometimes I think you can't help yourself I I think that

01:07:37.980 --> 01:07:43.220
can be true at the same time as it can be true that it is a distressingly large

01:07:43.220 --> 01:07:55.820
number sure maybe I should just retire to a potato farm yeah Dan and I had a fancy

01:07:55.820 --> 01:08:00.660
dinner last night my favorite part was a potato they're pretty good potatoes are

01:08:00.660 --> 01:08:07.060
pretty good it's hard to knock a good potato dude dude a baked potato with

01:08:07.060 --> 01:08:11.940
some butter and some salt and pepper you get a bit of sour cream on there you

01:08:11.940 --> 01:08:17.500
get a little bit of like green onion oh like are you salivating brother oh yeah

01:08:17.500 --> 01:08:24.780
potato in almost any form though warm potato great great cold potato warm

01:08:24.780 --> 01:08:32.980
potato fantastic okay hear me out hear me out okay nugget potatoes cold nugget

01:08:32.980 --> 01:08:36.780
potatoes cold can be pretty good yeah all right potatoes just win potatoes are

01:08:36.980 --> 01:08:42.460
yeah and not not every not every french fries good cold but but there are

01:08:42.460 --> 01:08:46.700
there are good cold french fries I I'll die on that hill I think they're better

01:08:46.700 --> 01:08:52.060
warm oh I can't think of a I can't think of a potato that's like even even nugget

01:08:52.060 --> 01:08:56.860
potatoes I think they're better warm hmm potatoes gain a lot from heat I don't

01:08:56.860 --> 01:09:00.860
know why but I think they gain a lot from heat that I will give you a potato's

01:09:00.860 --> 01:09:05.700
like at a like room temperature are probably the best form of potatoes at

01:09:05.700 --> 01:09:11.860
room temperature in my opinion I want a better warm I once accidentally potato

01:09:11.860 --> 01:09:20.740
shirt eight so many room temperature nugget potatoes that I threw up I wasn't

01:09:20.740 --> 01:09:26.220
sick I just spontaneously was like my stomach is at capacity I was I was

01:09:26.220 --> 01:09:33.100
reading I was like reading and just eating potatoes yeah and I just threw

01:09:33.100 --> 01:09:37.700
up it was like it wasn't even like it wasn't the sickiest sickest most like

01:09:37.700 --> 01:09:43.300
foul throw up ever or anything it wasn't even that gross cuz I had just eaten all

01:09:43.300 --> 01:09:47.740
of it and it was just it was basically just potato like it was probably still

01:09:47.740 --> 01:10:00.500
edible I love I love this like way too perfect image I have in my head of this

01:10:00.540 --> 01:10:04.820
situation of you just being way too laser focused in on what you're doing to

01:10:04.820 --> 01:10:10.460
not realize that you've eaten like an entire massive massive bowl size of your

01:10:10.460 --> 01:10:19.420
entire torso thing of your body's just like bro get it out of here yeah ADHD

01:10:19.420 --> 01:10:22.940
turned up to 11 someone point out yeah that's all I'm all I'm picturing is

01:10:22.940 --> 01:10:28.620
just like I must keep reading and also this hand is just doing this motion for

01:10:28.620 --> 01:10:36.860
whatever reason that's great anyways back to evil things we don't

01:10:36.860 --> 01:10:41.780
unfortunately get to keep talking about potatoes yeah that I mean that sucks a

01:10:41.780 --> 01:10:45.740
lot there are alternatives again just like in the discord thing they're all

01:10:45.740 --> 01:10:50.900
there are alternatives in this range of products the alternative ends up being

01:10:50.900 --> 01:10:56.380
more expensive usually yeah but you shout out ubiquity I was just gonna do it

01:10:56.380 --> 01:11:01.620
there are also other alternatives that aren't ubiquity but you know in our kind

01:11:01.620 --> 01:11:06.140
of spaces a lot of people do do be like a new big witty hear me out true spec

01:11:06.140 --> 01:11:13.140
security camera partnered with flock oh gosh yeah no but like it's it's

01:11:13.140 --> 01:11:16.220
effectively gonna end up being self-hosting and through something like

01:11:16.220 --> 01:11:21.540
ubiquity or a variety of other products it's gotta be self-hosted you can do a

01:11:21.620 --> 01:11:27.100
self-hosted solution you can have your own cameras you could share them with

01:11:27.100 --> 01:11:31.020
with family members you could remotely access them when you're away from home

01:11:31.020 --> 01:11:34.500
you could use a lot of the same features you can literally do the like press the

01:11:34.500 --> 01:11:44.460
doorbell have a video call thing just without you know Amazon watching every

01:11:44.460 --> 01:11:50.540
move it is possible hey it'll cost more but it's a company if there was a

01:11:50.540 --> 01:11:56.420
company that you didn't have to feel like you were you know helping move us

01:11:56.420 --> 01:12:04.820
towards a dystopian future it would be create a warehouse we have we have a lot

01:12:04.820 --> 01:12:09.980
to talk about this week and the big one is the one that Luke is wearing dude

01:12:09.980 --> 01:12:14.260
it's kind of covered right now so maybe if you can give them a better look at it

01:12:14.420 --> 01:12:21.340
that thing is so flipping cool this is it this is the lawsuit hoodie this hoodie

01:12:21.340 --> 01:12:26.780
exists because three years of unanswered collab emails felt like a sign to stop

01:12:26.780 --> 01:12:31.980
waiting for permission and just make this white on black hoodie that we wanted

01:12:31.980 --> 01:12:37.540
to make anyway it's made from the same heavyweight 100% cotton as the wan

01:12:37.540 --> 01:12:42.580
hoodie so it feels thick premium and built for daily wear with ykk zippered

01:12:42.580 --> 01:12:47.740
pockets to keep your things secure the sleeves feature bold fully embroidered

01:12:47.740 --> 01:12:52.420
controller inspired graphics and there's a small Easter egg on the care label that

01:12:52.420 --> 01:12:56.540
is optional to read but highly recommended you want to bring up the

01:12:56.540 --> 01:13:02.820
website okay yeah don't don't worry about it don't worry about it let's see if

01:13:02.820 --> 01:13:07.460
people can figure out let's see if people can figure out what it was inspired

01:13:07.460 --> 01:13:12.540
by I will not confirm or deny because well I don't actually mean oh is it in

01:13:12.540 --> 01:13:19.020
there it's literally the first line of the description oh no that's that's not

01:13:19.020 --> 01:13:25.220
oh wait oh yeah okay well okay never mind we apparently went full not that

01:13:25.220 --> 01:13:35.620
subtle literally the brand name is like the third word okay cool well okay we

01:13:35.620 --> 01:13:40.220
weren't actually concerned about D brand in terms of like the look what we

01:13:40.220 --> 01:13:45.700
really wanted to do was a hoodie that looked like a thing and then in order

01:13:45.700 --> 01:13:50.740
to make sure that the iconography wasn't gonna cause any problems for us we

01:13:50.740 --> 01:13:58.060
partnered with D brand to use their iconography hmm it's a pretty cool product

01:13:58.060 --> 01:14:01.740
do you want to scroll through some of the some of the other pictures yeah I love

01:14:01.780 --> 01:14:06.060
the charade ones I think this is charade yeah yeah yeah the helmet on these

01:14:06.060 --> 01:14:10.660
looks yeah D brand Rome robot helmet I don't know where they found to do these

01:14:10.660 --> 01:14:15.300
photos but these are awesome I am continually impressed with the photos

01:14:15.300 --> 01:14:18.340
that are coming out of the steam this is all good I was hoping there's gonna be a

01:14:18.340 --> 01:14:23.220
good picture of this the zipper looks sick it's like blacked out and it has this

01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:28.900
like copper inner core it looks so dope I don't think I've seen that before I

01:14:29.180 --> 01:14:32.300
think it's yeah it's all of them even the smaller zippers that are on your

01:14:32.300 --> 01:14:36.500
pockets have this like copper inner design I think that looks it's it seems

01:14:36.500 --> 01:14:41.380
to be like a spring to kind of like keep it held down is that what the actual

01:14:41.380 --> 01:14:49.740
copper bit is doing I think so yeah but keep scrolling apparently the last

01:14:49.740 --> 01:14:53.180
picture is the bat the best one there's a lot of pictures for this I think they

01:14:53.180 --> 01:15:00.020
really liked the set that they were at because there is there's quite a few but

01:15:00.020 --> 01:15:07.100
we will we will keep going through them there's so many pictures there is a ton

01:15:07.100 --> 01:15:17.740
of photos nice that's a bit of a hint dude I I kind of love this hoodie when

01:15:17.740 --> 01:15:25.940
we got our first sample of it I was like sick this is amazing that's dope yeah

01:15:25.940 --> 01:15:32.780
I don't know where they were that's sick that's sick that's probably my favorite

01:15:32.780 --> 01:15:40.220
one hell yeah it's um here do you want to throw us back this one is dope yeah

01:15:40.220 --> 01:15:45.860
those are cool it's it's one of those things I think this is when our team is

01:15:46.500 --> 01:15:52.580
is like ah see I don't want to take anything away from the other things we do but this is

01:15:52.580 --> 01:15:57.060
the stuff that gets me uniquely excited like this is when I think the team is at

01:15:57.060 --> 01:16:06.220
their absolute best when they create something that is so sort of gamer culture

01:16:06.220 --> 01:16:14.100
like internet culture referencing and yet is so flipping wearable and if

01:16:14.100 --> 01:16:18.660
somebody doesn't know what it is if they don't know that it looks kind of like a

01:16:18.660 --> 01:16:24.740
you know game console or if they don't recognize those icons they're just like

01:16:24.740 --> 01:16:31.660
wow cool hoodie but if they do you know it's the if you know you know and I just

01:16:31.660 --> 01:16:38.580
I love stuff like that they absolutely yeah yeah Marchable they hit it completely

01:16:38.700 --> 01:16:47.020
out of the park on this design taking again I don't want to whatever lawsuit

01:16:47.020 --> 01:16:55.180
hoodie go check it out LMG.GG slash lawsuit hoodie flipping cool some quick

01:16:55.180 --> 01:16:59.300
housekeeping from the warehouse it turns out when you keep making really cool

01:16:59.300 --> 01:17:03.420
new stuff you eventually run out of space so we're running three sales right

01:17:03.420 --> 01:17:08.460
now to clear some space and reset for what's next there's the last chance sale

01:17:08.780 --> 01:17:14.540
at LMG.GG slash last chance so this is the final call on some older stock that is

01:17:14.540 --> 01:17:18.940
not coming back once it's gone at least we have no plans to bring it back so no

01:17:18.940 --> 01:17:24.500
restocks no reruns no all just grab it later this is later get it now only the

01:17:24.500 --> 01:17:29.220
bundles our end of life okay commuter bag og backpack and tech sack will live

01:17:29.220 --> 01:17:33.900
on but these bundles are going away this is last chance we also have our end of

01:17:33.900 --> 01:17:37.780
season apparel sale clearing out some seasonal styles to make room for new

01:17:37.780 --> 01:17:41.260
designs that are already in the works same quality and fit just end of season

01:17:41.260 --> 01:17:47.460
pricing while supplies last that's LMG.GG slash end of season and finally we

01:17:47.460 --> 01:17:51.700
have a buy more save more for all blank t-shirts one blank t-shirt is just not

01:17:51.700 --> 01:17:55.260
enough they're comfortable easy to wear and having a few in the rotation just

01:17:55.260 --> 01:18:02.980
make sense stock up on blanks at LMG.GG slash blank T's T E E T E E S that's the

01:18:02.980 --> 01:18:06.380
one maybe Dan do you want to throw all these links in the description in the

01:18:06.380 --> 01:18:14.660
various chats if that kind of works for you ye all right sick sick Luke want to

01:18:14.660 --> 01:18:19.180
pick a topic for us sure no problem YouTube react videos could face lawsuits

01:18:19.180 --> 01:18:25.820
but not for the reason wait you know we're supposed to explain

01:18:25.820 --> 01:18:31.980
check out messages right I know I screwed up I know but I introduced all

01:18:31.980 --> 01:18:35.220
the products and now that's when we're supposed to do check out messages all

01:18:35.220 --> 01:18:42.500
right okay wait where's the thing wait is that not in here anymore okay I'm just

01:18:42.500 --> 01:18:47.100
gonna have to wing this check out messages are the way to interact with

01:18:47.100 --> 01:18:50.540
the WAN Show we don't want you to throw money at your screen or we do want you

01:18:50.540 --> 01:18:55.820
to throw money at your screen but we don't want you to just throw money at your screen for acknowledgement we want you to throw money at your screen and

01:18:55.820 --> 01:19:01.740
get oh yeah check out no check out messages comms yeah okay so there chat

01:19:01.780 --> 01:19:07.980
gaslighting me we want you to get high quality merchandise in return so if you

01:19:07.980 --> 01:19:12.100
want to send a message into the WAN Show where producer Dan are you guys gonna

01:19:12.100 --> 01:19:17.980
throw him up there yeah there he is nice where producer Dan will just post it

01:19:17.980 --> 01:19:21.820
like that one that's up at the top of the frame right now or he'll reply to it or

01:19:21.820 --> 01:19:26.540
he will curate it for me and Luke to respond to and all you got to do is head

01:19:26.540 --> 01:19:31.300
to the checkout on LTT Store calm there you go and you'll see this interface

01:19:31.340 --> 01:19:34.540
where you can pick a color decide whether to leave your name or have it be

01:19:34.540 --> 01:19:39.380
anonymous and go ahead and place your order and we'll show you what a

01:19:39.380 --> 01:19:42.380
curated one looks like oh man I'm so tired dude I was snowboarding all day

01:19:42.380 --> 01:19:47.740
I'm like dying that was my best that was the best that I could do just now am I

01:19:47.740 --> 01:19:55.100
super blurry there's little down there in the bottom I guess cool you are

01:19:55.100 --> 01:19:59.500
burlary it's a it's focused on the background put up your hands I'll fix

01:19:59.500 --> 01:20:01.580
it

01:20:04.580 --> 01:20:13.780
I'll try to fix it technology no for a very blurry line is you got a squint

01:20:13.780 --> 01:20:18.580
cameras in use by another application like yes I know that's the that's why I

01:20:18.580 --> 01:20:24.380
need to fix it I seriously I can't the Razor app doesn't let me change the

01:20:24.380 --> 01:20:35.060
focus if it I love technology how about a message oh now you're worse yeah yeah

01:20:35.060 --> 01:20:41.500
oh we're good yeah I'm so back okay Dan show us how much message works for

01:20:41.500 --> 01:20:47.100
crying out loud no I won't we'll just I'll show you how to check out we're gonna

01:20:47.100 --> 01:20:53.020
show you how to calm works auto focus is disabled doing my goodness

01:20:53.020 --> 01:21:05.460
oh no no put on your glasses just okay okay I went on DLL I was wondering

01:21:05.460 --> 01:21:11.500
about how you chose the colors of LTT Store items is there some science to it

01:21:11.500 --> 01:21:17.020
is it purely vibes and why not just make the same product in more colors

01:21:17.020 --> 01:21:23.820
especially apparel I can answer the more colors part more colors are more

01:21:23.820 --> 01:21:27.820
skews and that can get that can get pretty rough on certain things especially

01:21:27.820 --> 01:21:31.820
when there's a lot of sizes so like if you look at I'm gonna bring up on screen

01:21:31.820 --> 01:21:37.500
our our cleanup wizard t-shirt so if we added another color here we don't add

01:21:37.500 --> 01:21:43.720
one product we add six products because we add a red one of this in small and

01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:46.840
medium and large and extra large and extra extra large and extra extra extra

01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:52.120
large and you can extrapolate that quite a bit sometimes like the pants the

01:21:52.120 --> 01:21:58.120
pants can be pretty brutal for this if I go to let me go navigate through the

01:21:58.120 --> 01:22:02.080
store real quick we have he's gonna keep working on his blurs I'm not worried

01:22:02.080 --> 01:22:07.600
about you seeing him I'm gonna go over to this one the city set go to the new

01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:12.640
pants that we have that are awesome now you have two different inseam lengths to

01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:19.200
a crazy amount of way sizes and color so you've got all the way sizes times two

01:22:19.200 --> 01:22:22.920
times the amount of colors and the amount of products you have to keep in

01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:29.520
stock just goes whoop so usually try to keep it kind of dialed down now there's

01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:34.800
a bit of a research portion to selling things as well where we put these pants

01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:41.400
on sale we've got the regular we've got the tall we've got these all these different way sizes if these sell super well that might inform us that the

01:22:41.400 --> 01:22:46.160
pants are good and maybe some people might like additional colors then we

01:22:46.160 --> 01:22:50.600
could expand from there but if these just sell like kind of okay then maybe we

01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:56.640
don't want to add a bunch of colors because maybe people like the pants enough but they don't like them enough to have to buy more in a bunch of

01:22:56.640 --> 01:23:03.000
different colors so yeah t-shirts have a bit of an easier time with this because

01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:07.280
you can have a bunch of blanks in a range of colors and then print the shirts

01:23:07.280 --> 01:23:12.880
onto the blanks but then even that's not like a perfect answer hopefully I did

01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:17.960
justice to that question for the cw people I know there was another part to

01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:23.960
that how do you pick the colors yesh there's a very low percentage chance

01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:27.280
that I can answer this accurately Linus might know decently well but he has

01:23:27.280 --> 01:23:33.400
faded into the void he's gone so I'm gonna give it a shot cw people I'm sorry

01:23:33.400 --> 01:23:38.520
if I fail you but I think they they look at trends they look at upcoming trends

01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:42.680
they look at general fashion stuff and just try to look at the different types

01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:48.520
of colors that people are into moving forward and try to keep us matched with

01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:57.160
said trends now we do tend to fall into a bit of a category of tech nerd and

01:23:57.440 --> 01:24:04.600
generic tech nerd do tend to like black shirt so black shirt with printing on it

01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:10.320
does often end up being a way that we go but I also think that they're trying to

01:24:10.320 --> 01:24:16.440
have fun with stuff they want to have fun jobs they want you to have more interesting clothing I support it so every once in a while we get stuff like

01:24:16.440 --> 01:24:21.520
the pixel heart shirt which is it's like crazy red I didn't sell the teddy

01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:24.960
fleece jacket which is pretty wild colors that one is pretty good people love

01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:30.600
that one I really like the RGB sweater I really think people look really sharp

01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:35.120
in this I think I've told the story like a million times but is anyone supposed

01:24:35.120 --> 01:24:39.720
to be able to see what you're showing I can show that now this is the RGB sweater

01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:43.760
this is a non-black it's actually it's a it's a dark like I don't know if you

01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:48.840
call it navy but it's a dark blue with like like basically color-flexing

01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:54.080
throughout it I didn't know this was our product for a while I sat down at a

01:24:54.120 --> 01:24:57.200
conference next to Teran and he was wearing it and I was like oh wow it's a

01:24:57.200 --> 01:25:01.800
really nice sweater it looks good on you I had no clue it was ours that's hilarious

01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:06.880
I think it looks really sharp I think like when you look like this photo I

01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:10.800
think is a really good representation of just like you wear a decent pair of

01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:13.880
pants you feel this on top of it and you look very professional while wearing a

01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:19.040
sweater it's cool but with a touch of fun yeah 100% yep it's cool okay next

01:25:19.040 --> 01:25:26.040
question thanks for stalling no problem let's see hopefully my guess is on those

01:25:26.040 --> 01:25:29.720
answers were at least decently accurate I didn't hear them because I had to leave

01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:34.280
the room okay yeah in order to open up the application in order to put it back

01:25:34.280 --> 01:25:41.600
to manual focus which it was still on but just alright I did my good oh great

01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:45.640
I started Claire obscure a week or so ago and I'm really enjoying it Linus

01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:50.760
talks about jrpgs a lot are there any other modern ones with some a RPG

01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:55.520
elements I should check out love the show thanks guys I'm the last person to go

01:25:55.520 --> 01:26:01.040
to for game recommendations because a I tend to be like kind of basic like I

01:26:01.040 --> 01:26:09.120
just play what I know I'm probably gonna like and be I don't get a chance to play

01:26:09.120 --> 01:26:13.840
a ton of games so I don't really get to go off the beaten path much like like

01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:17.880
what am I supposed to say yeah Expedition 33 was really good did you

01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:27.160
really need me to tell you that swept the game awards right like it's you

01:26:27.160 --> 01:26:33.120
don't take don't take my word for it at that point right yeah I I I love

01:26:33.120 --> 01:26:39.520
crosscode it's it's probably is it my isn't my favorite modern JRPG the

01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:44.440
characters are so incredible if you haven't played it already go play it

01:26:44.440 --> 01:26:48.240
but it's more of like a pixel art style that I'm personally really into and I

01:26:48.240 --> 01:26:52.560
just I haven't I haven't played that many modern ones I did finish Expedition 33

01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:56.760
since last WAN Show so if we want to talk about it at all we can but Luke

01:26:56.760 --> 01:27:00.200
hasn't played and I don't think Dan's playing so there's not really gonna be

01:27:00.200 --> 01:27:06.000
much for me to say other than yeah it's really good without getting into stuff

01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:10.640
that would involve serious spoilers for people who in chat and on the show who

01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:17.880
might actually play it at some point you know okay it's one one small thing I

01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:22.040
know on the store that we're advertising like the polo and the tech pants

01:27:22.040 --> 01:27:28.880
together and this this might be me being RGB sweater pilled but I think the tech

01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:32.120
pants and nice belt and RGB sweater would go really well together I'm just

01:27:32.160 --> 01:27:38.360
gonna put that out there before we move on thanks Luke count to me for future

01:27:38.360 --> 01:27:42.960
fashion advice next topic YouTube react videos could face lawsuits but not for

01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:47.360
the reason you think a lawsuit has been filed between two creators for reaction

01:27:47.360 --> 01:27:51.960
based content the catch one channel is filing the lawsuit against the other for

01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:57.680
the way the react content was acquired oh interesting Christopher Cordova the

01:27:57.680 --> 01:28:01.960
individual who filed the suit is stating that the footage that was acquired with

01:28:02.120 --> 01:28:06.640
out their permission was ripped using ripping tools that bypass YouTube's

01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:10.720
technical protections which they claim is in violation of the digital

01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:15.480
millennium copyright actor DMCA Torrent freak stepped in to defend Jonathan

01:28:15.480 --> 01:28:20.080
who note hopefully I said that right the individual being sued saying that there

01:28:20.080 --> 01:28:24.600
is no way Cordova could prove that's what I was kind of thinking or no ripping

01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:28.240
tools are being used stating that for years many react creators simply record

01:28:28.240 --> 01:28:31.280
their screen instead of ripping the content that's yeah that this is very

01:28:31.320 --> 01:28:36.480
difficult to prove Judge Demarchi did not immediately throw out the case which

01:28:36.480 --> 01:28:39.800
has raised concerns in the react community because if this case goes

01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:43.240
through it could have effects down the line for all react type content that

01:28:43.240 --> 01:28:51.040
would be I mean a very interesting to summarize this isn't a question of fair

01:28:51.040 --> 01:28:56.160
use Judge Demarchi has acknowledged this as fair use but what calls into

01:28:56.160 --> 01:29:03.040
question is the way react footage is obtained how are you supposed to how

01:29:03.040 --> 01:29:10.280
would you prove how you got it like what would what would hypothetically what

01:29:10.280 --> 01:29:15.240
would that look like to you dude I have no idea I mean the discussion question

01:29:15.240 --> 01:29:20.840
here is how the is anyone ever going to prove how people obtained footage I'll

01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:30.480
just cut it out of the video if I leak the file name yeah I have no idea I

01:29:30.480 --> 01:29:35.720
don't think you can really prove this but then what does it make result none in

01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:40.640
my opinion but would that result in if you can't prove that you got the

01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:45.200
footage like ethically then you can't do it at all or would it go the other way

01:29:45.200 --> 01:29:49.480
around I don't know I don't even think it's a question of ethically though it's

01:29:49.480 --> 01:29:54.000
a question of whether you circumvented a digital lock effectively right but then

01:29:54.000 --> 01:30:00.080
is screen capturing screen yeah not the same thing is that not a ripping tool

01:30:00.080 --> 01:30:05.000
anyway that that's where I and I'm to be clear I'm not even taking a side on this

01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:10.520
one I'm just I don't know what you do about this questions you're not gonna be

01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:17.200
able to prove it and like you said what difference does it make yeah I don't I

01:30:17.240 --> 01:30:21.760
don't understand why we're even having this conversation because I don't

01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:29.360
understand the difference I don't know okay in that case let's not even let's

01:30:29.360 --> 01:30:34.360
not even bother let's talk instead about something okay it doesn't happen

01:30:34.360 --> 01:30:39.680
necessarily that often but something pretty cool that the Canadian province of

01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:47.320
KBAC has done they have a new consumer protection act which is all in

01:30:47.320 --> 01:30:52.800
French so bad news everyone but that's okay because we'll figure we'll sort it

01:30:52.800 --> 01:31:02.000
out for you but basically they had some planned obsolescence safeguards that were

01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:06.960
passed back in 2023 that are finally going to come into full effect October

01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:15.280
5th of this year that are pretty cool for starters increased minimum warranty

01:31:15.280 --> 01:31:20.920
periods on consumer electronics and appliances from three years on laptops

01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:27.040
at desktops tablets cell phones and game consoles all the way to six years on

01:31:27.040 --> 01:31:35.400
large appliances like stoves and refrigerators that is kind of awesome the

01:31:35.440 --> 01:31:39.560
next line is also awesome like okay hold on let's let's talk about this okay

01:31:39.560 --> 01:31:47.040
like why is it that three years is not already standard for an Xbox that's

01:31:47.040 --> 01:31:52.800
crazy yeah I like this a lot I do suspect that this will result in products

01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:58.520
being just more expensive in Quebec yes but I think this would be cool if it was

01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:03.880
a standard basically everywhere this this like we're I think we talked about

01:32:04.160 --> 01:32:08.200
like a couple weeks ago but there's this whole idea that like even refrigerator

01:32:08.200 --> 01:32:11.440
repair people are like yeah you don't bother keep your refrigerator after five

01:32:11.440 --> 01:32:15.640
years it's just garbage is like that's crazy this is now e-waste on a totally

01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:19.640
different level dude like when it's phones and stuff like that that sucks

01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:23.960
obviously e-waste in general is unfortunate but like we're throwing out

01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:29.040
washers and dryers and refrigerators and dishwashers as if they're you know

01:32:29.080 --> 01:32:36.240
phone cycle replacements like this is bad not good I've got people asking

01:32:36.240 --> 01:32:41.960
listen to an Xbox already a three-year warranty no this is a like five I mean

01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:45.160
what's the Xbox up to I was gonna say $500 device but it's gone up in price

01:32:45.160 --> 01:32:54.040
like this is an expensive item that has a one-year warranty yeah okay the next

01:32:54.040 --> 01:32:58.320
one warranties follow the product for the full term of the warranty

01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:03.560
regardless of whether the item is resold this is just such common sense it's

01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:09.560
just so obvious what something this this water bottle that isn't a rule magically

01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:14.360
might not last as long if I sell it to Luke what are you talking about insane

01:33:14.360 --> 01:33:23.320
alright next used cars and motorcycles also get automatic warranty coverage

01:33:23.320 --> 01:33:28.360
depending on the age of the vehicle and mileage Jordan says I think this is

01:33:28.360 --> 01:33:31.760
dealers only but it's not clear in the translation that one's a little tough I

01:33:31.760 --> 01:33:38.600
don't know how that works but I like the gusto yep additionally all goods bought

01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:43.000
or leased must be able to serve their normal purpose for a reasonable length

01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:47.320
of time the law also prohibits the use of techniques that make it more difficult

01:33:47.320 --> 01:33:51.360
to maintain and repair goods and aims to guarantee the availability of spare

01:33:51.360 --> 01:33:57.480
parts and repair services based retailers must inform customers of their

01:33:57.480 --> 01:34:01.320
minimum warranty coverage under the law before trying to sell any extended

01:34:01.320 --> 01:34:06.280
warranties based so basically that's a really good last line actually because

01:34:06.280 --> 01:34:11.200
people might not be aware that this change happened yep that's a very good

01:34:11.200 --> 01:34:14.440
very good addition whoever was like hmm we might actually want to add something

01:34:14.440 --> 01:34:18.240
to this that was smart good job David and I David and I did another one of those

01:34:18.240 --> 01:34:22.520
fun Linus and David just go and buy something yes ventures nice we went to

01:34:22.520 --> 01:34:28.080
Costco to buy a desktop and we had a really cool experience with that from

01:34:28.080 --> 01:34:32.280
one of the reps there that is not going to be able to appear on camera because

01:34:32.280 --> 01:34:35.880
we didn't call ahead and get permission to film at Costco we just kind of showed

01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:39.160
up and we're like well we're buying a computer and we're gonna roll on some

01:34:39.160 --> 01:34:45.040
metaglasses and good luck everybody by the way apologies in advance David has

01:34:45.040 --> 01:34:49.440
never shot anything on metaglasses before and he's a very active

01:34:49.440 --> 01:34:55.480
conversationalist so the footage might be a little shaky sometimes David was

01:34:55.480 --> 01:35:00.520
like the king of of interacting with with the with the host from behind the

01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:05.360
camera you know that right yeah like he just like he can't help it he's just a

01:35:05.360 --> 01:35:10.200
very active listener he's a very he's a very engaged personality and these are

01:35:10.200 --> 01:35:15.920
all good things as long as you're not a human tripod so anyway but yeah it was

01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:26.280
really fun and we we had a really great experience where the the representative

01:35:26.280 --> 01:35:29.760
which I didn't even know like Luke did you know that Costco had like someone

01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:34.560
who works in the electronics department to like talk to you about computers no

01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:39.880
yeah it's a thing so we talked to the guy and he gives us a little you know

01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:45.880
like pro tip that if you don't tell the motherboard manufacturer for instance

01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:49.880
that it was part of a complete system it may very well have a longer three year

01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:53.400
warranty on it and same with you know things like memory they often have a

01:35:53.400 --> 01:35:58.360
lifetime warranty on it so yes it has you know a Costco extended two year

01:35:58.360 --> 01:36:02.880
warranty so they they do an extra year I believe on computer systems compared to

01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:06.280
if you buy those systems elsewhere which I thought was a pretty good value add but

01:36:06.280 --> 01:36:09.320
he was like and you might even be able to get more and it's the kind of thing

01:36:09.440 --> 01:36:13.280
that makes you feel really good as a consumer like the sales rep is no it's

01:36:13.280 --> 01:36:17.840
awesome there to help you and guide you and inform you rather than there to

01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:21.560
extract your money and it was just such a positive experience and that's wicked

01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:27.800
to have that enshrined in law I guess I wish it wasn't necessary but I'm glad

01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:31.800
that it is and I would love to see I'd love to see this expand I did see

01:36:31.800 --> 01:36:36.920
someone in the chat saying yeah there's already brands that are that are looking

01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:41.240
to pull out of Quebec because of this but I think the answer is not for Quebec

01:36:41.240 --> 01:36:46.320
to back down the answer is for everyone else to step up that will give more

01:36:46.320 --> 01:36:51.840
opportunity and more sales attention to brands that don't yeah which is awesome

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All right you want to pick another topic? Sure.

01:39:31.480 --> 01:39:34.720
Do you want to talk about anchor? This really came up when we were talking about

01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:39.600
the sponsors that we've kicked to the curb. It sure did. No notes. Anchor,

01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:44.240
Yuffie, Soundcore. Anchor, Yuffie, Soundcore, Context. Anchor used to be our

01:39:44.240 --> 01:39:47.280
biggest partner did they? Our biggest partner? I don't think that's right.

01:39:47.360 --> 01:39:53.440
Yeah. Is that right? I think so. I'm gonna message Colton right now.

01:39:55.600 --> 01:40:02.640
They used to be a sizable partner that we had maybe the biggest one. I didn't think

01:40:02.640 --> 01:40:06.560
that would have been right but I message Colton and Steve and I will find out.

01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:11.360
Fake news in the WAN duck and we dropped them because of a fiasco with Yuffie

01:40:11.360 --> 01:40:15.360
where their cameras weren't encrypted and they tried to lie and got caught and it

01:40:15.360 --> 01:40:19.840
did get resolved but it was weird and took a long time and they still had us on their website

01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:22.080
for like months and months and months and months and months and months but

01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:27.440
we want to work with them again so Linus wants to suss this out.

01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:32.640
Okay I just heard back from Colton. He says yes they were our biggest partner

01:40:33.440 --> 01:40:42.240
2020 era. Oh man. Yeah so they messaged me earlier today and basically Colton's like

01:40:42.240 --> 01:40:46.720
hey we want to work with them again. Specifically on the anchor and soundcore brands

01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:51.920
are we fine engaging with them? We dropped them many years ago because of the whole debacle.

01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:58.960
I'd like to bring up for a moment that I'm so tired of people calling our integrity as a company

01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:04.880
into question when we have done stuff like this like unflinchingly without hesitation.

01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:09.280
Apparently they were our biggest partner. Literally didn't matter. We did it anyway.

01:41:10.240 --> 01:41:19.280
Cool let's move on. I think the big question here is put very succinctly by night author

01:41:19.280 --> 01:41:26.480
in the Floatplane chat. Any reason to believe that they have changed? That's a good question.

01:41:27.040 --> 01:41:34.080
I think that's the question and I have to be honest with you. They did eventually resolve

01:41:34.080 --> 01:41:43.840
the eufy thing. I still have no interest in engaging with the eufy brand. I didn't like

01:41:44.480 --> 01:41:50.160
the way that they deflected like if the eufy thing had happened and then they had immediately

01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:56.960
owned it and taken steps. I'm not about people being defined by their mistakes. To me you're

01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:07.520
defined by how you respond to them. They did eventually. Initially they just deflected and

01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:11.280
completely not apologized. Yes they did eventually. It was like ages later.

01:42:13.680 --> 01:42:21.440
That was my problem. That was why we ultimately were like well see ya. And Andre B says okay well

01:42:21.440 --> 01:42:27.760
how do you prove now that they're trustworthy? So I think that's why Colton is talking specifically

01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:33.200
about the anchor and the soundcore brands rather than even bringing up eufy with me.

01:42:33.200 --> 01:42:42.240
Because no I just don't think that I would be comfortable with a eufy product at this point.

01:42:42.320 --> 01:42:52.560
But like look this is one of those things where when we dropped them it did create a ton of

01:42:52.560 --> 01:42:57.120
confusion because I was very explicit from the start. I said look we're just not going to

01:42:57.120 --> 01:43:00.640
take their money. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop using their products. Like check this out.

01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:16.320
Hold on I'm up one sec. Literally right now. Literally right now. I am plugged in. I mean I mean an anchor power brick.

01:43:16.320 --> 01:43:22.080
I mean there's also this. Oh hold on I can't see it. One of the more recent articles on the

01:43:22.080 --> 01:43:27.040
lab's website is testing an anchor nano charger. Yeah we never said we weren't going to cover them.

01:43:27.040 --> 01:43:31.360
We never said we weren't going to use the products. We just said that we weren't going to take their

01:43:31.360 --> 01:43:38.240
money. And I think the question is have they done enough for us to change that?

01:43:43.440 --> 01:43:47.600
Yeah I'm just looking at a lot of. Oh does the Verge require a subscription now?

01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:53.680
Interesting. For some articles not all. Apparently their eufy blames the software update and promises

01:43:53.760 --> 01:44:02.960
to do better article is behind one of those. And I mean I don't know it's been five years.

01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:09.200
How long do we have to put someone in sponsor jail for? Like I think it's I think it's.

01:44:10.320 --> 01:44:17.040
It was um. Oh man. Was it actually 2020? I think it was like 2022-2023 or something.

01:44:17.040 --> 01:44:20.640
A lot of the stuff I'm finding online about this is from 2023.

01:44:21.280 --> 01:44:27.040
Yeah okay can you okay. Oh no Colton so sorry Colton said 2020 they were like they were our

01:44:27.040 --> 01:44:30.640
biggest partner in 2020. Got it. Okay.

01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:43.120
Trying to remember um I'm trying to remember who it was. There was uh was it techbrew?

01:44:43.680 --> 01:44:52.720
That uh made that really good point about not uh not just like if if a company makes a mistake

01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:59.600
not just putting them in jail forever like at some point if they rectify the issue then

01:45:00.160 --> 01:45:03.760
no it wasn't techbrew who was it? Luke do you remember? No I don't know.

01:45:04.480 --> 01:45:08.000
Oh shoot it was on it was on there like it was on their podcast or something.

01:45:08.880 --> 01:45:14.720
Anyway it was a good point. Ah yeah ImSys says I personally haven't

01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:18.000
bought any anchor or other their brand products since the Eufy news.

01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:26.960
Blaze Henry says don't forget that anchor also has issues with exploding power bank recalls

01:45:26.960 --> 01:45:35.120
like every few months. Is that true though? I know there were some bad cells that a number

01:45:35.120 --> 01:45:43.280
of battery bank manufacturers got um got burned by pun intended so let's just be very

01:45:43.280 --> 01:45:47.120
let's be sure that that was actually an anchor specific issue.

01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:54.560
Zen Foxon says there's an apology all that was needed I'd want more assurance than that I mean

01:45:54.560 --> 01:46:00.000
yeah that's that's very fair especially when you got gas lit the first time before the apology was

01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:08.560
issued. The mighty reptar says yeah don't put flock on your bad list forever I mean that oh

01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:12.960
yeah see that's a tough one because that is and that is a situation where I'd say yeah they're

01:46:12.960 --> 01:46:16.800
on the bad list forever I don't see how there would be any redemption there. Yeah so I'm reading

01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:20.320
this Verge article because I'm kind of like my memory's not that great so I'm trying to

01:46:20.320 --> 01:46:25.680
recall what happened here and the Verge article opens with first anchor told us it was impossible

01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:30.320
then it covered its tracks then it repeatedly deflected while utterly ignoring your emails

01:46:30.320 --> 01:46:35.120
so shortly before christmas we gave the company an ultimatum if anchor wouldn't answer why it

01:46:35.120 --> 01:46:40.640
supposedly always encrypted ufy cameras were producing unencrypted streams among other questions

01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:45.600
we would publish a story about the company's lack of answers it worked so they had to get like

01:46:47.440 --> 01:46:57.360
dirty like ethically blackmailed yes into into doing the right thing which is like you know like you said it's been years

01:46:57.360 --> 01:47:03.760
isn't in that many years but like maybe people involved with this are gone I don't know but

01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:08.960
just an apology after that level of like trying to cover up something actually very serious is

01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:17.440
a little sketch I might I might like a little bit more I don't know what that more would be

01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:21.920
I think the bigger question for me from the business team is why do we need to do this

01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:27.920
is there just some other is there some other power company that we could just work with instead

01:47:31.280 --> 01:47:35.600
because of my annoyance with this thing I have I don't know if I've even talked to you about this

01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:39.600
but I have personally I know they're a sponsor of ours but on a personal level I've switched to

01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:45.440
ugreen I've bought ugreen things lately yeah I bought four ugreen power

01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:54.000
wall warts recently just so that the kids will not lose theirs so they have like travel travel

01:47:54.000 --> 01:48:00.640
ones when I was traveling I bought a family set power bank which has been great I more recently

01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:06.160
bought a ugreen wall wart which has been great I also haven't used this yet so I can't comment on it

01:48:06.240 --> 01:48:15.440
but I bought one of their usb to 3.5 millimeter cables which has a bluetooth chip in the usb plug

01:48:15.440 --> 01:48:20.080
so it just looks like a usb to 3.5 mil but it basically adds bluetooth to your car it powers

01:48:20.080 --> 01:48:24.560
the bluetooth over the usb and then it gives the audio over 3.5 it looks cool I haven't used it yet

01:48:24.560 --> 01:48:31.040
though um yeah I don't know but I that being said I don't necessarily know that they need the biggest

01:48:31.040 --> 01:48:34.560
reason if they think the company has actually moved on it's just this was like a pretty big deal

01:48:35.200 --> 01:48:42.240
so yeah I I'm I'm interested in how like what what do they what did they do so okay maybe they said

01:48:42.240 --> 01:48:49.200
like sorry that we lied and then covered up and then deflected and then got blackmailed into saying

01:48:49.200 --> 01:48:54.960
the truth um but what did they what do they do about that do they do they do some form of action

01:48:54.960 --> 01:49:00.400
to follow up and I think this requires more digging personally that's my stance I know the

01:49:00.400 --> 01:49:04.320
goal was to ask the audience not me um but that's that's where I'm at

01:49:08.080 --> 01:49:15.920
why don't we pencil it in for 2027 and how about anchor has a really good year and doesn't screw

01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:26.960
anything up and we revisit in 2027 does that make sense partially I need to go look into the apology

01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:32.400
that they gave because I don't know what they said um and I'd like to know what they did like

01:49:32.400 --> 01:49:36.960
somebody said we need heads on sticks and it's like to a certain degree this was like actually

01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:45.040
unacceptable but again uh you know things change times change people change etc especially a company

01:49:45.040 --> 01:49:49.920
staff changes what was it we heard a stat recently like most people stay at a company for two years

01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:58.960
it's been more than that now um so there could be like a very significant level of turnover for

01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:04.640
the people involved in that uh and yeah you know maybe we're good to go maybe by the by the time

01:50:04.640 --> 01:50:11.840
we're 2027 like you said uh based on statistics a huge portion of that company will have turned over

01:50:11.840 --> 01:50:17.520
maybe second chance is fine but yeah I I think paying attention to what they do in that period

01:50:18.240 --> 01:50:23.280
of time would be really good and paying attention to the ways they communicate and hopefully here's

01:50:23.280 --> 01:50:28.960
a weird take hopefully they have some form of problem so you can see how they deal with it

01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:36.400
Gergy 008 says they also promised a microsite that we never got focusing on security

01:50:38.400 --> 01:50:46.480
interesting okay I think this requires more digging and needs to dig more I'm gonna I'm gonna

01:50:48.240 --> 01:50:53.840
flag that I'm on a new laptop I haven't pinned snipping tool to my taskbar yet

01:50:55.040 --> 01:50:59.120
they also have to remember they're a huge company even y'all have communication issues at your size

01:50:59.120 --> 01:51:05.760
even bigger has got to be worse I as far as my understanding goes it gets a lot worse but

01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:16.400
this is kind of a different level of problem in my opinion okay um I think we need some more

01:51:16.400 --> 01:51:30.720
answers about how they've really changed also this um let's pencil in for 2027 but they need to

01:51:33.280 --> 01:51:35.760
demonstrate in some way that they are

01:51:38.560 --> 01:51:45.280
culture hot take if it takes this much digging to determine if an answer should be yes maybe the answer should be no 90% of who sees these spots isn't going to be doing the

01:51:45.280 --> 01:51:50.240
digging I understand the take that you're trying to make but I don't yeah agree personally but the

01:51:50.240 --> 01:51:56.000
flip side of it is that most people are just buying a battery like a wall wart or a battery bank

01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:02.080
and like we just we just did that Labs article on an anchor wall wart that was just like a random

01:52:02.080 --> 01:52:06.560
side quest that Lucas was interested in like it had nothing to do with this conversation that

01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:12.240
Colton's bringing up with me and it's like a good wall wart and so like why should we

01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:21.600
why should we not say yeah this is a good wall wart um and get sponsorship dollars for it and

01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:27.840
then someone buys a good wall wart and then they enjoy their wall wart like I just yeah yes and also no

01:52:30.400 --> 01:52:34.320
the only thing I hate about OMG is their indifference to crowdsource carriers

01:52:34.640 --> 01:52:39.760
what what are crowdsourced carriers are crowdsourced carriers

01:52:51.840 --> 01:52:55.040
like uh like like like like like for shipping

01:52:58.320 --> 01:53:03.760
uh like uber but for parcels what sorry what does this have to do with our indifference

01:53:04.400 --> 01:53:07.920
I this is the first I've heard of it and also

01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:18.080
I'd need to look into this a lot more I'm so I feel so out of left field uh yeah indifference

01:53:18.080 --> 01:53:23.840
incoming no like we I mean we've we've talked in defense of them a lot on wanshow I don't I

01:53:23.840 --> 01:53:28.880
genuinely don't know what you're talking about but any crowdsourced carriers yeah we have remember

01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:33.200
we had a topic not that long ago we both got duped on it because it was like some AI slop thing but

01:53:33.760 --> 01:53:39.360
we were talking about how uber and all these different places are like often mistreating

01:53:39.360 --> 01:53:43.280
their drivers they don't get paid very much we've talked on wanshow about how like at a certain

01:53:43.280 --> 01:53:51.360
degree you're exchanging the value of your car for short term money um the the fact that they're

01:53:51.360 --> 01:53:55.520
like little mini individual corporations like hurts their ability to get things like health

01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:59.520
insurance and how it's it doesn't probably get flagged as not being employed even though a lot

01:53:59.520 --> 01:54:03.840
of cases effectively is like we've talked about this stuff before so yeah I don't think that's

01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:07.600
quite what they're talking about though I think they meant like crowdsourced carriers like like

01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:12.960
like instead of FedEx or something am I am I maybe I'm missing something here I don't know I have no

01:54:12.960 --> 01:54:22.000
idea okay all right cool well either way uh that's neat should we should we move on I think I'm I

01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:25.040
think I'm ready to leave it there I kicked it back to the business team to do a bit more

01:54:25.120 --> 01:54:30.960
investigation and I think that one way or another this is still a little fresh and we can we can

01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:36.960
pencil it in for 2027 as long as they don't screw anything else up this year and as long as they

01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:43.520
you know tell us what exactly it is that they've done to show that their culture has moved beyond

01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:48.880
this behavior sounds good no notes google lets you remove explicit images and other personal

01:54:48.880 --> 01:54:54.240
info from search results google launched a tool to request removal of non-consensual explicit

01:54:54.240 --> 01:55:00.240
images from search results users click the three dots on the image on the image result and select

01:55:00.240 --> 01:55:09.600
remove result okay yeah requests are trackable through google's results about you hub which also

01:55:11.200 --> 01:55:17.120
expanded to let users submit government id numbers for monitoring major caveat is you have to give

01:55:17.120 --> 01:55:23.200
google your data first yeah I knew that and it only removes the results from google search not

01:55:23.200 --> 01:55:28.880
from the internet itself well yeah it's something which means crawlers are still gonna get it and

01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:34.560
crawlers are the thing that's becoming more common for google search the one thing that's kind of cool

01:55:35.280 --> 01:55:38.720
sorry that's it's not in the notes there is one other thing that's kind of cool is once you've

01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:44.320
requested a takedown uh you don't have to like keep requesting takedowns it'll proactively

01:55:44.320 --> 01:55:48.800
remove it again that is neat if it shows up again do you think this will remove it from the ai

01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:54.560
summary no oh oh google's own ai summary i think probably will i don't know about that actually

01:55:54.560 --> 01:55:59.760
i don't think it gives image results really because that's not that's not a ai is it yeah it

01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:04.880
super does maybe i've never asked the ai for an image it's given image results from the Labs website

01:56:06.720 --> 01:56:13.440
oh fun time bloody hell okay before we get into another business meeting because i think that

01:56:13.440 --> 01:56:18.400
was one of our topics this week was to talk about is it actually in here i don't know

01:56:18.400 --> 01:56:22.320
i thought we were going to like kind of talk about the lab and how well like what the future of

01:56:22.320 --> 01:56:29.280
the Labs website looks like if um if our if our graphic okay next week i don't have the chart here

01:56:29.280 --> 01:56:37.440
so it's it gets hurt a lot i'll send an email yeah next next week but basically yeah um ai ai

01:56:38.160 --> 01:56:42.800
crawlers uh we we tried to turn them off and there's some interesting behavior we'll get into that

01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:47.280
before we do our next topic though i just want to talk about the lina con thing from last week

01:56:47.840 --> 01:56:53.520
what i was getting at i went too far i went too far and i'm sorry what i was trying to get at

01:56:53.520 --> 01:56:59.040
is that being pro consumer and being based is sexy that's all i was trying to say it wasn't

01:56:59.040 --> 01:57:08.320
meant to be literally sexual it was just like it's so cool that it's like sexy wood that's all

01:57:08.320 --> 01:57:14.880
it wasn't meant to actually be personal there i said what i should have said right away afterward

01:57:14.880 --> 01:57:22.320
i don't think that helps i what you you just said would again but no that that's what i said

01:57:22.320 --> 01:57:27.360
last week that's that's where i was going with it like i went too far because it wasn't it wasn't

01:57:27.360 --> 01:57:33.520
meant to be about the actual person it was just meant to be being super pro consumer and awesome

01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:40.480
is so good that it's like gone sexual it yes it's i'm not saying it wasn't dumb luke

01:57:40.880 --> 01:57:54.640
okay okay that's all that's all i have to say about it okay okay alphabet is issuing 100 year bonds

01:57:57.520 --> 01:58:03.440
google's parent company will use the sterling century bond to fund ai investments

01:58:04.400 --> 01:58:12.400
century bonds are highly unusual especially in the tech sector where long-term bonds usually

01:58:12.400 --> 01:58:20.480
top out at 40 years though ibm did sell a 100 year bond in 1996 our discussion question here is i got

01:58:20.480 --> 01:58:26.480
nothing from jordan this is crazy

01:58:29.680 --> 01:58:35.520
yeah would would you have any faith whatsoever that alphabet

01:58:37.040 --> 01:58:43.360
will still exist in a hundred years let alone be in any kind of condition to be

01:58:43.360 --> 01:58:46.480
be paying you

01:58:49.680 --> 01:58:59.280
for holding their bonds because of and i guess their logic they need to build ai infrastructure

01:58:59.280 --> 01:59:05.600
so desperately and so immediately that they are mortgaging their future in order to have that ai

01:59:05.600 --> 01:59:15.360
infrastructure today is this am i am i missing something here because i am i am not like a

01:59:15.360 --> 01:59:21.520
financial services expert by any stretch of the imagination but my my understanding is that

01:59:21.520 --> 01:59:27.680
basically they're just you're giving them cash today and then they are giving you a return on that

01:59:27.680 --> 01:59:34.560
like effectively forever for life but they will have to exist and they will have to have this

01:59:34.560 --> 01:59:39.280
money in order to continue to pay that out in the longer term which means that money you give them

01:59:39.280 --> 01:59:45.840
today they have to generate a return on it otherwise the whole thing doesn't make any sense am i missing

01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:57.440
something here um if if a company oh man if a company sells a hundred year bond and then the

01:59:57.520 --> 02:00:06.000
company itself is sold the company that buys them would still owe on the hundred year bond

02:00:06.560 --> 02:00:13.360
correct or no i mean it's uh the the guarantor my understanding is google's parent company it's

02:00:13.360 --> 02:00:18.960
alphabet so it's a publicly held if alphabet it's not about people at that point okay if al if

02:00:18.960 --> 02:00:25.360
alphabet got taken private uh then it would be whoever privately owns them then it would be their

02:00:25.360 --> 02:00:30.640
liability but it would transfer like they can't just be like oops bought the company i'm not going

02:00:30.640 --> 02:00:36.560
to pay these out anymore okay while i will say like i i could foresee a future where alphabet

02:00:36.560 --> 02:00:43.680
doesn't exist anymore um very easily i i don't think i foresee a future where alphabet goes private

02:00:43.680 --> 02:00:49.680
at this point they're just the scale that they've reached it's i don't look i i'm just trying to

02:00:49.680 --> 02:00:53.840
hate to use the i word nothing else i'll have a crazy amount of so someone pointed out that

02:00:53.840 --> 02:00:58.960
ibm sold a hundred year bonds in like 1996 or something and i was thinking like oh no that's

02:00:58.960 --> 02:01:05.680
in the dock uh yeah i thought i was holding chat for whatever reason i could see that still being

02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:09.280
a thing because ibm just has so many patents and at this point they're just kind of sitting around

02:01:09.280 --> 02:01:19.600
with patents as far as i can tell no they do stuff um okay sure i could still see i could still see

02:01:20.560 --> 02:01:23.440
yeah as far as my understanding goes they're doing that to generate patents

02:01:26.000 --> 02:01:31.600
but anyways that's a topic for another time um i could still see google being around because of

02:01:31.600 --> 02:01:41.760
the amount of things that they've made um um but that's where like they're they're they're like ip

02:01:42.480 --> 02:01:50.960
and their patents being important or you know youtube has proven a new age of youtube staying

02:01:50.960 --> 02:01:55.920
power um and maybe google just exists forever now

02:01:58.240 --> 02:02:06.000
well look at how much they killed off yeah yeah tons tons of what i really want to know guys

02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:13.680
is am i missing something here is this as crazy as it seems to be on the surface it seems nuts

02:02:13.680 --> 02:02:23.520
yeah nobody seems to think that i've gone crazy here well at least for this anyway yeah just this

02:02:23.520 --> 02:02:31.040
not the previous thing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no it's crazy okay so we're all on the same

02:02:31.040 --> 02:02:37.200
page well no you just that you buy i don't know how much total they issued but like billions is

02:02:37.200 --> 02:02:42.000
my understanding and but you you buy like what you want to buy yeah yeah yeah yeah

02:02:47.200 --> 02:02:51.920
insomniac says nobody ever thought bitcoin was going to be worth a hundred thousand dollars

02:02:52.560 --> 02:02:57.120
got some bad news for you insomniac it isn't how much is it going to be worth in a hundred years

02:02:57.600 --> 02:03:05.040
yeah a hundred years like maybe an incredible amount more maybe nothing yeah because maybe we

02:03:05.040 --> 02:03:10.320
have quantum coin at that point or something who knows who knows or people decide to scam in

02:03:10.320 --> 02:03:14.240
some other way not that bitcoin is really heavy on that but that space is

02:03:14.960 --> 02:03:29.840
bitcoin oh what an evolution i'm sure somebody's done that already okay all right i wow yeah it seems

02:03:29.840 --> 02:03:37.840
like it seems like this is it seems like this is um yeah just as crazy as it sounds to me

02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:45.760
um is this just people being absolutely like like like wealthy investors and and funds being

02:03:46.320 --> 02:03:51.840
desperate for somewhere to put money right now that it's not going to rot like is is that the

02:03:51.840 --> 02:03:56.800
issue with with the way inflation is going with the us dollar and the way the us dollar is devaluing

02:03:56.800 --> 02:04:03.360
with the way that gold doesn't generate passive income like there's there's reasons that all

02:04:03.360 --> 02:04:09.440
these different asset classes exist um you don't want to just have everything in real estate like

02:04:09.440 --> 02:04:17.120
is this just like like tech tech company bonds is this is this the new yolo hail mary because

02:04:17.120 --> 02:04:23.360
there's so much money being managed by by some firm that they're just kind of like well we got to

02:04:23.360 --> 02:04:28.960
buy something with it and okay here's the thing and if this doesn't work then like you know whatever

02:04:28.960 --> 02:04:32.800
some of the other things we did will probably work really good like is that is that what's going on

02:04:32.800 --> 02:04:44.000
here no idea man no financial stuff makes any sense to me anymore everybody's just

02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:52.080
doing stocks based on vibes and now we're doing 100 year long bonds based on probably vibes

02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:58.400
just nothing means anything anymore scrappy dp says no this is google raising capital yeah

02:04:58.400 --> 02:05:03.120
yeah yeah no i understand why google wants to do it the part that i don't understand is why

02:05:03.120 --> 02:05:07.280
anyone wants to buy it that's what that's what i'm trying to figure out no it's not a new thing

02:05:07.280 --> 02:05:09.520
look at preferred stocks and perpetual bonds

02:05:14.720 --> 02:05:18.720
okay preferred stocks and perpetual bonds not a new thing okay all right

02:05:20.480 --> 02:05:28.640
okay just sounds like it to be treated as an equity why wouldn't you just buy actual equity it's a public company

02:05:29.440 --> 02:05:34.240
um well maybe there's some tax reason for it then

02:05:35.200 --> 02:05:42.000
so you can borrow against it because a bond is is more certain it's like it's it's a guaranteed

02:05:42.000 --> 02:05:47.360
payout that's you know lower than the more bonds are safer bond is not tied to share price

02:05:48.000 --> 02:05:52.000
yeah all right we're just getting into weird lands we don't necessarily understand

02:05:53.680 --> 02:05:57.200
i mean i can i can wrap my brain around that but i also just have to

02:05:57.200 --> 02:06:02.400
yeah we're like the comparatives are things that we haven't necessarily heard of which is like

02:06:02.400 --> 02:06:08.080
okay we should probably just get out of here a bond is only a guarantee as long as the guarantor

02:06:08.080 --> 02:06:13.840
is able to guarantee it i mean that's why like u.s government bonds were so popular for so long

02:06:13.840 --> 02:06:17.280
yeah because well yeah the u.s government will go anywhere and they can always just you know

02:06:17.280 --> 02:06:25.120
print more money or whatever uh but like buying a bond from a company that pivots as often and as

02:06:25.120 --> 02:06:34.880
hard as google does for a hundred years a hundred a hundred years alphabet bonds a hundred years

02:06:34.880 --> 02:06:42.400
like i just okay sure well why don't we do another topic sure

02:06:45.040 --> 02:06:52.480
sony will ship their final blu-ray recorders this month blu-ray players will continue production

02:06:52.480 --> 02:07:00.160
for now that's all just wanted to flag that blu-ray's blu-ray's death is not um greatly

02:07:00.240 --> 02:07:07.200
exaggerated it seems like it is finally finally coming finally coming cool see you later blu-ray

02:07:07.200 --> 02:07:14.480
does anyone is anyone in chat gonna miss blu-ray oh east of eastern blu-ray recorders yep what is

02:07:14.480 --> 02:07:20.720
that for like like writing what is that for like burners remember burners why would you call it a

02:07:20.720 --> 02:07:27.680
recorder all right well that was often what they were called back in the day writers burners recorders

02:07:27.680 --> 02:07:32.640
i think the never heard it call the recorder i think the burner parlance kind of went away

02:07:32.640 --> 02:07:40.160
pretty early on but like consumers liked it because it was cool yeah are you gonna have writer recorder

02:07:40.160 --> 02:07:52.480
yeah 100 percent let's just do the Floatplane announcements some of these other ones are really

02:07:52.560 --> 02:07:59.360
depressing i don't know what oh check this out want to bring up the interface there are three

02:08:00.080 --> 02:08:08.000
early access LTT videos and two amazing Floatplane exclusives up this week one of the three

02:08:08.000 --> 02:08:13.600
christmas bonuses this year was allowing employees to spend a thousand dollars on whatever they choose

02:08:13.600 --> 02:08:19.760
as long as they go with fellow employees sammy chewie ariana and bell vlogged their time spending

02:08:19.760 --> 02:08:28.560
their thousand dollars on a bunch of stuff like a base belt clothes and a book fun fact of the three

02:08:28.560 --> 02:08:33.600
options about 95 percent of the company chose to spend the one thousand dollars and then have

02:08:33.600 --> 02:08:40.800
a paid day off there were other options in fact luke and Dan were the only two people that picked

02:08:40.800 --> 02:08:46.320
one of the other options do you want to talk about it you guys are done now right no but we're

02:08:46.320 --> 02:08:49.920
done the primary portion except i forgot you're supposed to take the day off and i wouldn't have

02:08:49.920 --> 02:08:58.800
been able to anyway so i didn't do that part um but we we got four really like fancy very fancy

02:08:58.800 --> 02:09:04.720
cooking glasses and we got a we went to a michelin star restaurant and had the day off the day that

02:09:04.720 --> 02:09:09.520
we went to the michelin star restaurant except i didn't realize just how fancy it was until

02:09:09.520 --> 02:09:15.040
what they showed you the meat or something oh the cooking glasses yeah that was crazy

02:09:16.320 --> 02:09:21.520
i was just like oh cool four cooking classes neat uh and then yeah they went over the ingredients

02:09:21.520 --> 02:09:27.200
list and i was like whoa okay all right um like what was it i forget you told me at some point

02:09:28.240 --> 02:09:35.840
there's like this can you describe the uh the lamb Dan yeah it's like a special new zealand lamb

02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:42.560
grown by sort of a small farm with very particular rules and regulations and it's not sold retail

02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:46.800
it's only given to a couple different restaurants when they start talking about that kind of crap

02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:52.560
the person's name that they know that they get it through and stuff yeah jeffrey's brought this over

02:09:52.560 --> 02:10:00.480
and he's like i work for a different company now uh do you want lamb and it's like oh okay restaurants

02:10:00.480 --> 02:10:05.120
a bit when the when each individual ingredient in the food has a story you know you're paying a

02:10:05.120 --> 02:10:10.160
lot of money um so so that was neat and then we went to the michelin star restaurant we did that

02:10:10.160 --> 02:10:14.400
last night actually that's right so we did our thing yesterday and that's when i was like yeah

02:10:14.400 --> 02:10:20.480
my favorite part was the potato to be fair it was a very fancy potato it was an extremely fancy it

02:10:20.480 --> 02:10:27.520
was like a uh a rosette done sort of scalloped surrounded by potato skin cream which was very

02:10:27.520 --> 02:10:33.520
nice it had some sort of cheese or something on it as well it was really good it was a it was excellent

02:10:35.200 --> 02:10:42.960
unique experience i would say so too we did eight courses yeah cool yeah yeah anyway most

02:10:42.960 --> 02:10:50.240
people just got the shopping spree um i still haven't figured out why no one else picked this

02:10:50.240 --> 02:10:55.440
it's been amazing i'm very happy with the choice we still have two courses to go it's four classes

02:10:55.440 --> 02:11:01.120
classes yeah classes yeah sorry all right we also have a blue screen of death competition

02:11:01.120 --> 02:11:06.880
featuring elijah danie one of our new writers jordan and tatiana to see who can get a blue

02:11:06.880 --> 02:11:13.680
screen the fastest um if early releases are more to your tastes we've got three we released

02:11:13.680 --> 02:11:19.440
two stays video a whole week early on Floatplane which has elijah converting from an

02:11:19.440 --> 02:11:25.920
Android to an iphone and giving him giving his reasons as to why we also bought a 90 thousand

02:11:26.000 --> 02:11:33.680
dollar oh sorry no they provided a 90 thousand dollar tv plufon i unbox and at least help a

02:11:33.680 --> 02:11:39.200
little bit with the assembly to see how good it is it's crazy it's incredible spoiler sorry

02:11:39.200 --> 02:11:44.080
and finally our dash cam roundup which will release right now is coming early fill your

02:11:44.080 --> 02:11:51.680
weekend with exclusives and early access at LMG.gg slash fp wan what the heck sammy why would you

02:11:51.680 --> 02:12:01.040
write do this call to action first please at the end of the dog or the end of the segment

02:12:02.720 --> 02:12:09.680
it hits red and bold and in larger font and it has like like little whatever the little

02:12:09.680 --> 02:12:17.280
hats are called the little uh shift shift six the hats it has a bunch of hats do this first

02:12:17.280 --> 02:12:19.280
please sammy why would you put it at the end

02:12:22.400 --> 02:12:28.960
hello luke can you show the screen sammy's here sammy's here how did you get here you want me to

02:12:28.960 --> 02:12:34.880
show the document no show show the Floatplane landing page the float landing page yeah i supposed to

02:12:34.880 --> 02:12:42.880
do yeah show the things show the thing okay yeah i don't i don't know what are you doing in the

02:12:42.880 --> 02:12:48.960
call sammy can they hear you yeah show the things show the things yeah blue screen death yeah are you

02:12:48.960 --> 02:12:55.440
even oh i don't want to say but i can't right now i'm still here why am i still here yeah it's

02:12:55.440 --> 02:13:00.560
late dude i don't know i didn't realize you like ran on to set and i was like how am i hearing sammy

02:13:00.560 --> 02:13:05.680
right now i couldn't i couldn't see him so i really was confused i didn't see him at first i

02:13:05.680 --> 02:13:10.720
didn't yeah anyways i just i just need i just need to go on the right screen okay bye okay i thought

02:13:10.720 --> 02:13:16.880
he just hacked into our call yeah i was really impressed i was like wow your mic's really good

02:13:17.840 --> 02:13:21.120
yeah all right

02:13:27.600 --> 02:13:33.200
either the other section of sponsors you can do more talk to a no knock to a knock to a celebrates

02:13:33.200 --> 02:13:40.160
half a million CPU cooler mounting upgrade kits this is so cool this is from tom's hardware

02:13:40.160 --> 02:13:47.120
for the past 20 years yeah exactly it's actually very cool i like that they celebrated it this is

02:13:47.120 --> 02:13:58.560
so based this is so pro consumer that i think it's sexy wood for the past 20 years whatever roll

02:13:58.560 --> 02:14:04.480
in would be something for the past 20 years Noctua has been offering mounting upgrade kits

02:14:05.200 --> 02:14:12.240
yeah they have for free to anyone with a valid receipt for a Noctua cooler

02:14:15.120 --> 02:14:21.040
this is with the intention of your Noctua cooler being able to be effectively the last cooler you

02:14:21.040 --> 02:14:27.200
ever buy as long as you don't you don't need uh the you know the better performance of whatever

02:14:27.280 --> 02:14:35.280
their new gen one is i believe you have to pay shipping that's my understanding but um the the

02:14:35.280 --> 02:14:42.240
kit itself is available for free and and this is great for those without the receipt the kits

02:14:42.240 --> 02:14:49.440
are still available on marketplaces for around ten dollars you can and we actually did a youtube

02:14:49.440 --> 02:14:55.040
short on this before the 20 year mark but after i don't know it was like 16 years or something like

02:14:55.040 --> 02:15:00.240
that where we took the very first Noctua cooler we actually had them send us one they still had a

02:15:00.240 --> 02:15:06.160
unit of the very very first Noctua heat sink and we mounted it to the very latest CPU

02:15:06.880 --> 02:15:11.440
and showed it working and it was awesome and it was great and the fact that they will support

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a product like that for so long is it's just it's admirable very admirable

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and i love it uh whoa binky draw says not even shipping you only need to pay if you want it

02:15:25.840 --> 02:15:33.520
expedited that actually explains that time that Noctua sent us a bulk shipment of mounting kits

02:15:34.320 --> 02:15:39.520
um for us to reship for them because i guess they were trying to save a little bit of money

02:15:41.440 --> 02:15:54.480
interesting so cool what just you dude you're just upset that my kink is being pro consumer that's so

02:15:55.440 --> 02:16:01.920
our kink now that's so weird come on luke you know there there's some people that you might have

02:16:01.920 --> 02:16:08.880
an uncomfortable attraction to based on that yeah not to it it's kind of weird dude i'm not

02:16:08.880 --> 02:16:18.000
uncomfortable with it i think you might be i think jacob would laugh it off okay um

02:16:19.920 --> 02:16:24.400
all right let's try to go to something that doesn't arouse Linus somehow um

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log deck g is not going to create an ai device that plays the game for you in their pro lineup

02:16:31.680 --> 02:16:41.920
too late i'm into it oh my god logitech g pro series product manager chris pate was interviewed on tom by tom's guide

02:16:41.920 --> 02:16:47.120
about the future of ai and logitech products and then in quotes logitech as a company is very

02:16:47.120 --> 02:16:52.640
much looking at how to use ai and how to incorporate ai into you know yeah both product development

02:16:52.640 --> 02:16:56.960
and into products themselves from the from a certain point of view from the point of view

02:16:56.960 --> 02:17:02.160
of competitive integrity and esports specifically i think we have to be very careful about how we

02:17:02.160 --> 02:17:08.480
use potentially integrate and touch the pro series with ai touch you don't have to use just

02:17:08.480 --> 02:17:14.240
careful Linus is here we would never do it in a way that would compromise competitive integrity

02:17:14.240 --> 02:17:18.400
we're not going to create an ai device that plays the game for you right

02:17:20.480 --> 02:17:26.000
no no no keep reading it's good that's absolutely outside the bounds of what using that type of

02:17:26.000 --> 02:17:34.560
technology would be applied to the pro line okay yeah so i just nothing i just thought that's cool

02:17:34.560 --> 02:17:41.280
yeah good job logitech not cool for drawing a line right because taking a stance right now

02:17:42.240 --> 02:17:48.480
against ai in any way feels like like corporate kryptonite and just coming out and saying

02:17:48.480 --> 02:17:55.200
and and and like okay it seems so obvious right no we're not going to create an ai product that

02:17:55.200 --> 02:18:01.520
like plays the game for you because that's completely against the integrity of competition

02:18:02.320 --> 02:18:06.880
yeah that seems obvious doesn't it luke and yet you've got all these monitor manufacturers

02:18:06.880 --> 02:18:12.800
that are figuring that started with a crosshair started with a cheat cheating crosshair yeah

02:18:12.800 --> 02:18:17.680
you're supposed to just put masking tape on your screen and then put a little cross on it

02:18:17.680 --> 02:18:23.680
stop what are you guys doing and then got as far as like sending alerts like that that they would

02:18:23.760 --> 02:18:27.760
monitor what's going on on screen in your mini map and send you alerts if you're about to get

02:18:27.760 --> 02:18:35.360
ganks like that is not playing the game anymore speaking of no go no go ahead speaking of things

02:18:35.360 --> 02:18:40.080
that logitech could maybe use ai for maybe naming their mice there's a new article on the lab's

02:18:40.080 --> 02:18:45.120
website making sense of logitech's mouse lineup where we go through their different things this is

02:18:45.120 --> 02:18:49.920
like the opposite of sponsored by logitech where we go through their different product lines and try

02:18:49.920 --> 02:18:54.720
to make sense of their naming schemes because they're a little should this be an LTT could this

02:18:54.720 --> 02:18:59.520
just be an LTT could i just take this article write a script and then just make it an LTT i think

02:18:59.520 --> 02:19:05.440
if you want to make it an LTT i think you might need to do more than just the the logitech mouse

02:19:05.440 --> 02:19:10.880
lineup i think you might want to do like a couple companies or something why i don't know i mean

02:19:10.880 --> 02:19:16.320
they're the they're hands down the leader in the space you hear i mean i think you and i have

02:19:16.320 --> 02:19:20.240
probably said more times than we can count you want a good gaming mouse that'll last you a long

02:19:20.240 --> 02:19:24.960
time find something from logitech's lineup yeah so what's wrong with that

02:19:27.840 --> 02:19:32.000
and then if it's successful has anything to do with that and then if it's successful hell marks

02:19:32.000 --> 02:19:38.080
100 right we just do the same thing with razor and then it's a whole series because i think you

02:19:38.800 --> 02:19:44.880
think you can try it i would watch that yeah i think okay that's an awesome series a business

02:19:44.880 --> 02:19:50.960
meeting time i think sometimes we are often led by fear and i think in the current youtube environment

02:19:50.960 --> 02:19:54.960
that actually doesn't you know in a weird way i think the craziness going on with the algorithm

02:19:54.960 --> 02:20:00.240
right now benefits not being very fearful about your content because if you release something

02:20:00.240 --> 02:20:05.280
that sucks the algorithm doesn't really seem like it punishes you as hard as it used to

02:20:05.360 --> 02:20:12.320
it just will not give it any views so there's a possibility this video gets 300 000 views

02:20:12.320 --> 02:20:18.880
which for us would be pretty rough um but if that does happen then the next one can still

02:20:18.880 --> 02:20:22.000
do really well so you don't have the like momentum issue that you had in the past so

02:20:22.640 --> 02:20:29.520
just go for it yeah sick since we're having a business meeting there's yeah uh Dan i just

02:20:29.520 --> 02:20:39.760
dropped a link to the LTT subreddit in the in your teams should we start publishing to porn hub

02:20:41.120 --> 02:20:48.640
sure apparently the ad cpms are three x yeah nice just do it there's also if you need to do

02:20:48.640 --> 02:20:54.880
research for making your video uh you could go to the lucas has been posting all the articles on

02:20:54.880 --> 02:21:01.440
uh the LTT subreddit and i think somebody pointed out that we like missed one of the mice or

02:21:01.440 --> 02:21:06.240
something so maybe there's some additional detail in the comments we do read the comments in there

02:21:06.240 --> 02:21:09.600
check them out on the subreddit but yeah i don't know you'd have to find an employee that wouldn't

02:21:09.600 --> 02:21:17.200
mind doing that um i'm sure there is one you just put yourself on screen yeah he's going to put

02:21:17.200 --> 02:21:25.440
up the screen no that's not what happened i missed it luke can you throw it up um if you want to

02:21:26.240 --> 02:21:32.160
what am i throwing up i'm not putting potatoes potatoes okay what am i putting on screen i'll

02:21:32.160 --> 02:21:37.440
try and find where you guys are in the dock uh it was this link line is sent to me

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this is crazy it's from a stem creator sorry where is this it's under the logitech topic

02:21:46.720 --> 02:21:55.040
okay i wasn't there anymore uh i see it LTT so it's a subreddit thing this looks probably it's fine

02:21:55.040 --> 02:22:01.520
it's safe for work i i've sent it all right relax guys people may not know this but i publish

02:22:01.520 --> 02:22:08.320
the same stem videos on both youtube and what can i say i think so on the hub while while youtube

02:22:08.320 --> 02:22:14.960
generally generates more views the ad revenue per million views on the hub is nearly three times higher

02:22:15.680 --> 02:22:21.280
other creators are uploading stem videos on the hub and seeing two times uh the revenue

02:22:21.280 --> 02:22:26.720
since most of the subreddit spends their time on the hub anyways it seems like a smart move for

02:22:26.720 --> 02:22:32.080
LTT to post there um to be clear i don't think this is something that we would do for the same

02:22:32.080 --> 02:22:37.840
reason that we have certain ad verticals disabled on youtube i don't know that i'd be particular

02:22:37.840 --> 02:22:42.560
like there's a reason that these advertisers pay more it's because fewer sites will take them

02:22:43.280 --> 02:22:50.800
um right oh that that's why the cpms are so high i mean we've had this conversation a thousand

02:22:50.800 --> 02:22:55.760
times around like the LTT forum we'll have some agency approach us oh yeah i could sell i could

02:22:55.760 --> 02:23:00.400
i could make you rich with ads on your community forum and i'm like yeah how and they go oh well

02:23:00.400 --> 02:23:05.520
all you have to do is have ads for this stuff and i'm like yeah okay we're good um but i just i

02:23:05.520 --> 02:23:14.240
thought i thought it was interesting i thought it was interesting you could try it and see what the community feedback is try stuff do it we already have someone who volunteered to do the

02:23:14.240 --> 02:23:19.520
uploading they already volunteered yeah we could upload like the good news stuff there like it could

02:23:19.520 --> 02:23:26.560
be a good news consumer protection news break yeah give yourself a break and give me a bigger break

02:23:26.560 --> 02:23:33.360
yeah who volunteered to do the uploads was this elijah no dand it immediately oh for oh that's

02:23:33.360 --> 02:23:37.680
what he was doing i had to find an employee who would it would be like willing to do this i

02:23:37.760 --> 02:23:45.680
am a team player i'll take one for the team and then if you have a partner to help you with it

02:23:45.680 --> 02:23:53.360
is it a double team yeah we'll double team the LTT videos a good news break would be

02:23:54.080 --> 02:24:00.800
good news oh my god that's funny damn that's pretty good we're gonna get some work out of the

02:24:00.800 --> 02:24:10.720
feed cam anyway oh my goodness um it's possible to make too much money i just whatever just do it

02:24:10.720 --> 02:24:15.760
see what community feedback is no one in chat right now is like oh my goodness you can't do that

02:24:15.760 --> 02:24:21.520
that would be bad like nobody seems to care it's not gonna make our brand worse we were already on

02:24:21.520 --> 02:24:30.640
only fans yeah that's true look luke i don't think i've ever not been a try anything twice kind of

02:24:30.640 --> 02:24:34.560
entrepreneur then try it uh all right no balls

02:24:40.640 --> 02:24:44.080
i can't hold it all right all right all right all right come on move on please

02:24:44.080 --> 02:24:48.080
we'll do it Dan Dan's gonna create the account then right is that did you actually volunteer

02:24:48.080 --> 02:24:52.080
to do this because i can't i can't tell you to do this no i'll do it yeah you can use my account

02:24:52.080 --> 02:24:58.560
it's fine i mean uh the work account the work account it's in keeper we're fine

02:24:59.040 --> 02:25:08.560
we have a work account no well i don't know we might we might need to contact them to get the

02:25:08.560 --> 02:25:15.440
username i'm i'm i bet you someone took it say nothing i'm sure they i'm sure they'd get it for

02:25:15.440 --> 02:25:20.880
us i i think we've been in touch with them before i'm sure we have we have yep okay i still want

02:25:20.880 --> 02:25:26.800
to do a data center tour yeah that actually would be very cool yeah the dirtiest data center water

02:25:26.800 --> 02:25:38.320
cool questionable liquids yeah these are mineral oil pcs it's recycled when there's a leak does it

02:25:38.320 --> 02:25:50.960
squirt and he's dead oh need two fingers to plug this hole uh what's our next topic do you want to

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talk about our sponsor what would be the uh what would be the ratio of small white servers to large

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black servers oh i mean luke seed my server at home so oh man maybe it's that

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okay um all right yeah why don't we do sponsor spots and then we have uh some good

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while you're at it all right should we talk about these bank now i think you could have a lot of

02:28:41.280 --> 02:28:47.920
fun with the titles oh yeah videos uploaded over there oh for sure someone in fulping chat already

02:28:47.920 --> 02:28:52.880
said that you should do like uh explaining what dp is and it's just an exploration of DisplayPort

02:28:54.960 --> 02:28:59.440
like a fully safer work that's what i should have done for this is going to be great and then and

02:28:59.440 --> 02:29:04.320
then there's all those exploring dp with my co-workers line is but there's all those videos

02:29:04.320 --> 02:29:10.400
that are like yeah i got stuck in the washing machine or whatever yeah yeah you could do titles

02:29:10.400 --> 02:29:18.000
that are actually like not really innuendo-y but seem like they might be because of the content i

02:29:18.000 --> 02:29:23.840
think you could use the uh you could use the washing machine one of my new screwdriver yeah yeah

02:29:23.840 --> 02:29:31.360
yeah she checks out my screwdriver one in each hand 10 million views anyway speaking of 10 million

02:29:31.360 --> 02:29:36.960
views no notes youtube music lyrics now require a premium subscription youtube music is rolling out

02:29:36.960 --> 02:29:43.360
a five free lyric view limit on their platform once you hit that limit only the first few lines

02:29:43.360 --> 02:29:49.280
are visible with the rest blurred unless you subscribe youtube music premium costs $11 a

02:29:49.280 --> 02:29:57.760
month in the us while full youtube premium is $13.99 a month in the us i don't know why pretty much

02:29:57.760 --> 02:30:02.560
anyone would get just youtube music premium and my reason for saying that is not because like oh you're

02:30:02.560 --> 02:30:08.240
too cheap to get the the whole youtube premium my reason for that is i would just get something else

02:30:08.240 --> 02:30:14.720
Shopify or sorry Spotify or something youtube music really is like the thing that you have

02:30:14.720 --> 02:30:20.080
because you have youtube premium uh just like how every company uses teams because they happen to

02:30:20.080 --> 02:30:24.400
have the office suite and teams happens to be there which makes it like the best option

02:30:24.400 --> 02:30:30.720
not because it's actually good um just so i only i only highlighted this because it's

02:30:31.280 --> 02:30:36.480
i guess wonderful that youtube is finding ways to me or google is finding ways to make youtube

02:30:36.480 --> 02:30:41.840
music worse instead of making it more like google play music which was awesome yeah so yeah this this

02:30:41.840 --> 02:30:48.640
blows and that's all that i have to say about that google says it now has 325 plus million paid

02:30:48.640 --> 02:30:54.240
subscribers across services that's pretty good i'm assuming that you include google workspace

02:30:54.400 --> 02:31:00.560
also not that meaningful because their services are so broad yeah and youtube brought in over 60

02:31:00.560 --> 02:31:08.080
billion in ads and subscriptions in 2025 all right what else we got microsoft is rolling out a new

02:31:08.080 --> 02:31:13.200
secure boot certificate before the old ones expire in june so they've started pushing these through

02:31:13.200 --> 02:31:18.080
monthly Windows updates ahead of june 2026 which is the expiration of the original 2011

02:31:18.080 --> 02:31:22.000
certificates secure boot verifies trusted bootloaders that start out blocking things like

02:31:22.000 --> 02:31:25.760
root kits from loading before Windows begins the new certificates are being automatically

02:31:25.760 --> 02:31:30.640
deployed to supported Windows 11 24 h2 and 25 h2 systems though some devices may require

02:31:30.640 --> 02:31:36.720
firmware updates from oems first basically we're just flagging this to like look into your device

02:31:36.720 --> 02:31:40.720
make sure that you're not going to enter a degraded security state with reduced boot

02:31:40.720 --> 02:31:46.880
level protections and all that good stuff uh also in other news t-mobile introduces live

02:31:46.880 --> 02:31:51.840
translations with no app required i thought that was pretty cool i don't have the opportunity to try

02:31:51.840 --> 02:31:57.440
it because i'm not on t-mobile so yep there you go that's pretty neat uh and how does that work

02:32:00.160 --> 02:32:06.560
i don't know sounds cool someone uh try it out and let me know so they're recording all your calls

02:32:06.560 --> 02:32:11.200
is what i'm taking of course they are yeah cool don't you love the world i want to talk about

02:32:11.200 --> 02:32:18.720
ianio's new handheld they the first time ianio did like uh like we're making something that's

02:32:18.800 --> 02:32:24.320
really high end they called it the ianio next and it was a pretty cool handheld back in the day

02:32:24.320 --> 02:32:32.560
they just announced the next two which without early bird pricing on indiegogo is starting

02:32:32.560 --> 02:32:39.200
at two thousand dollars and the maxed out spec will be forty three hundred dollars we are literally in

02:32:40.080 --> 02:32:45.200
decent second hand car territory multiple times the cost of my first car and i'm also assuming

02:32:45.200 --> 02:32:53.120
that's usd so it's like a few multiple times the maxed out specs include a nine inch 165 hertz

02:32:53.120 --> 02:33:02.960
OLED at 2400 by 1504 that reaches 1155 nits the AMD ryzen ai max plus 395 so this is a

02:33:03.680 --> 02:33:11.920
16 core CPU 16 core mobile CPU zen 5 course that has an r dna what what is it something

02:33:11.920 --> 02:33:17.920
something point something it not for the the previous one has uh an r dna graphic GPU that's

02:33:17.920 --> 02:33:25.360
like about on par with kind of an entry-level mobile dedicated GPU like this thing is flipping

02:33:25.360 --> 02:33:33.120
powerful r dna 3.5 thanks avocadotus diaboli or whatever uh up to 128 gigs of lp ddr 5x memory

02:33:33.120 --> 02:33:38.320
at 85 33 mega transfers per second two terabytes of nvmi storage tmr joysticks hull effect triggers

02:33:38.320 --> 02:33:42.480
a 116 watt hour battery that is going to make it so that you have to fill out special paperwork

02:33:42.480 --> 02:33:50.240
in order to take it on a plane and it weighs about a kilogram and a half three and a half pounds

02:33:53.360 --> 02:33:59.920
that's sick do you want to show it on screen as someone who already has spent a fair bit of time

02:33:59.920 --> 02:34:07.760
daily driving a gpd win five this is the last category of products that needs fierce competition

02:34:07.760 --> 02:34:15.680
the the strict halo handheld gaming pc space it looks like a pretty cool little device though

02:34:16.800 --> 02:34:23.600
ianio has run into some trouble recently with um their customers being kind of irate at them for

02:34:23.600 --> 02:34:31.440
reasons that i don't 100 no right now but uh seem to be valid i i like very briefly scanned it like

02:34:31.440 --> 02:34:37.200
supporting devices after the fact and stuff like that i actually kind of like what gpd did with the

02:34:37.200 --> 02:34:41.440
win five the i when i unboxed it i thought it was really stupid but the more i've used it the more

02:34:41.440 --> 02:34:45.600
i've really liked their battery tether i just put it in the pocket of my cargo pants and then it

02:34:45.600 --> 02:34:50.320
makes it so that it feels like a normal weight and i don't have to carry around a massive massive

02:34:50.320 --> 02:34:56.000
battery with it with that said even even with the giant battery oh dude it feels like it feels like

02:34:56.000 --> 02:35:03.040
rocking out to my zoom yeah um even with the massive battery that it has it still doesn't like

02:35:03.040 --> 02:35:07.680
last that long i mostly used it used it plugged in but it's nice to be able to game in bed at

02:35:07.680 --> 02:35:13.920
like really high fidelity i played most of expedition 33 on the gpd win five east of easton

02:35:13.920 --> 02:35:18.880
said good thing this can't fly because you won't after those prices either and while i think that's

02:35:18.880 --> 02:35:25.680
really funny i think the people that can afford that and will buy that will be able to fly afterwards

02:35:26.320 --> 02:35:31.280
because that's what's happening to the economy uh hey did you hear about the new concept the

02:35:31.280 --> 02:35:42.960
e-shaped economy no so it's to it's to capture that the the top of the k right is is never going

02:35:42.960 --> 02:35:51.520
to approach the middle class again which is going to remain enormously elevated from the the very

02:35:52.080 --> 02:35:59.600
bottom who are struggling a lot so this is this is like a new kind of way of describing it

02:35:59.600 --> 02:36:05.280
yeah so now we've got the stratification has expanded it's not that um that the middle class

02:36:05.280 --> 02:36:11.040
is going to be coming along with the economy yeah i yeah yeah that's that's not bad i still

02:36:11.040 --> 02:36:16.720
think k-shaped is a better descriptor for most people but it's uh the k-shaped i think better

02:36:16.720 --> 02:36:22.880
shows the divergence yeah yeah yeah but that is interesting uh what else is interesting in finance

02:36:22.880 --> 02:36:28.480
is that mr beast finally been waiting for this bought a banking app now i can finally do real

02:36:28.560 --> 02:36:34.160
banking beast industries mr beast company has acquired step which has apparently seven million

02:36:34.160 --> 02:36:40.400
users a financial services app for teens and young adults that has banking services provided by steps

02:36:40.400 --> 02:36:47.040
banking partner evolve bank and trust uh this follows mr beast's announcement of a new youtube

02:36:47.040 --> 02:36:54.320
channel focused on personal finance and investing backed by his own bank that's cool uh other ventures

02:36:54.320 --> 02:36:59.680
include ghost restaurants festivals and 10 trillion other things uh first move into financial services

02:36:59.680 --> 02:37:04.000
which feels like he's employing a strategy to continue to monetize his audience as they age

02:37:04.000 --> 02:37:09.440
moving from snacks into savings um although you know people definitely still buy snacks when they're

02:37:09.440 --> 02:37:14.880
older uh discussion question given the recent rash of influencer hyped mean coin rug pulls i

02:37:14.880 --> 02:37:20.240
don't think that's recent uh do you think this is more of the same another grift or a sound business

02:37:20.240 --> 02:37:25.120
model strategy for beast industries i suspect it will be a legitimate bank and i suspect it will

02:37:25.120 --> 02:37:28.640
be a legitimate bank that gets a lot of its customers through insane marketing from his

02:37:28.640 --> 02:37:33.840
financial channel and it will be more successful than it should be because of that i think it will

02:37:33.840 --> 02:37:40.080
be boring i think it's a pretty sound business decision i think that uh i mean i i said years

02:37:40.080 --> 02:37:47.520
ago that he'd be the first youtube billionaire i think he's he's passed it now right no idea what

02:37:47.520 --> 02:37:55.360
he might as well be uh i don't know i haven't had like a a chat with him in a long time um

02:37:56.240 --> 02:38:01.360
when he was younger though i can i can say that he seemed to mostly have his heart in the right

02:38:01.360 --> 02:38:05.600
place even if not every just even if i'd like wouldn't agree with every decision that he made

02:38:05.600 --> 02:38:14.000
and he did some things that i think were ill advised um i would like to hopefully believe

02:38:14.000 --> 02:38:24.160
that he would find a way to make his bank you know not predatory or whatever but i um

02:38:25.200 --> 02:38:36.560
i've also seen beast endeavors that have been kind of running seemingly pretty independently

02:38:36.560 --> 02:38:42.480
and he seems like he's stretched really thin like between the content and feastables and

02:38:43.040 --> 02:38:52.960
i i would and have bought yeah uh you know i've bought youtuber shirts i've bought a wide variety

02:38:52.960 --> 02:38:58.560
of different youtuber merch things have supported youtubers on patreon and Floatplane and and what

02:38:58.560 --> 02:39:04.480
not i think it's really cool that there's youtuber creator candy i haven't bought any of it but i

02:39:04.480 --> 02:39:13.120
totally would um i think i'm good doing my banking with some boring people boring really

02:39:13.120 --> 02:39:18.800
boring suited people ideally like as boring as possible really like i want to walk in and

02:39:18.800 --> 02:39:23.520
immediately want to yawn and just be bored and then walk out with a bank account that works

02:39:24.320 --> 02:39:29.520
i think i think that's what i want them to do personally it's not financial advice but

02:39:30.480 --> 02:39:37.040
please yeah i do the bank nerd says not gonna lie feastables taste like trash well the original

02:39:37.040 --> 02:39:41.360
ones were actually really good they were pretty high cocoa content they were like actually pretty

02:39:41.360 --> 02:39:49.440
good quality chocolate um and then they reformulated them to be more appealing to the average mr

02:39:49.440 --> 02:39:55.280
beast viewer and also they're probably cheaper to make now so now they taste a lot more like the

02:39:55.280 --> 02:40:01.040
chocolate on a kit cat or whatever but the early ones were actually pretty good like if you like

02:40:01.040 --> 02:40:10.000
quality chocolate um that has like high is high in cocoa my kids i um i had like some really nice

02:40:10.720 --> 02:40:18.720
swiss chocolate that was like 65 or 70 cocoa or something like that and um i was i was treating

02:40:18.720 --> 02:40:24.160
myself to like an after dinner just piece of chocolate and they were like oh what's that

02:40:24.160 --> 02:40:28.320
that doesn't look like you know the chocolate we've had before i'm like oh this is this is chocolate

02:40:28.320 --> 02:40:33.760
they're like well yeah but like i'm like no no but like this is chocolate and uh they tried it i was

02:40:33.760 --> 02:40:38.480
actually surprised that they all liked it i think i probably to put my thumb on the scale a little

02:40:38.480 --> 02:40:44.640
bit by giving them extremely small pieces because the the bitterness can be not that appealing to a

02:40:44.640 --> 02:40:50.080
younger palette but they all really they all really liked it and i was like oh okay yeah well

02:40:50.080 --> 02:40:55.520
it's really expensive so uh we're not going to happen in the house very often but yeah that's

02:40:55.520 --> 02:41:00.880
chocolate it's really good people saying it's technically not a bank it's just a fin tech

02:41:00.880 --> 02:41:11.200
company that is backed by a bank sounds like it needs to exist even less but yeah i don't know

02:41:11.200 --> 02:41:17.680
i don't i'm just supremely not interested and maybe somebody will be but this this ain't for me

02:41:21.040 --> 02:41:29.840
cool it's a finance app aimed at gen z and gen alpha people like you're you're just slowly doing

02:41:29.840 --> 02:41:35.520
the reverse of winning me over so anyways not for me i won't be engaging not financial advice

02:41:35.520 --> 02:41:43.440
do the hell you want see you later uh after dark is it after dark it's after dark i think it's

02:41:43.440 --> 02:41:50.000
after dark i mean it's clearly after dark oh actually there's lights on outside it's not

02:41:50.000 --> 02:41:54.720
that clearly after dark it's definitely after dark oh that's why there's lights on outside

02:41:56.400 --> 02:42:02.000
nice solid all right i don't have too many for you here luke den and Linus has there ever been

02:42:02.000 --> 02:42:07.600
an item bought for an AMD upgrade where you were like i could use that and eventually bought it

02:42:07.600 --> 02:42:17.440
also Floatplane exclusives are too good lately tammy tone it back no um i am not in the dashboard

02:42:17.440 --> 02:42:23.360
and i usually don't actually listen to you i read along because i process information better that

02:42:23.360 --> 02:42:28.320
way i need to log into the dashboard right now yeah that's why that's why i read them so that you

02:42:28.320 --> 02:42:34.080
can read it uh yeah i will dm them too yeah don't you don't want to say that again that's probably

02:42:34.080 --> 02:42:40.800
too behind the curtain for for Floatplane jet um have your reserve been an item bought on an AMD

02:42:40.800 --> 02:42:48.160
upgrade where you thought that you could use it and eventually bought one oh oh man uh

02:42:52.320 --> 02:42:56.800
hold on fill record is this is this gonna work nice okay i'm in i hacked the mainframe

02:42:57.760 --> 02:43:05.840
grill Linus has grills now okay very funny he only wears them off camera you got into

02:43:05.840 --> 02:43:10.160
your making fun of me no but i should have they are the right color

02:43:17.600 --> 02:43:22.000
got him i'm so i'm so sorry i missed that because i was trying to think that's okay i like it enough

02:43:22.000 --> 02:43:29.280
you didn't even need to laugh i enjoyed it myself um i was pretty tempted by the live laugh

02:43:29.280 --> 02:43:34.960
liao neon sign but i i just i couldn't spend money on that like i i'd love to have one but i

02:43:34.960 --> 02:43:41.280
wouldn't love to buy it to pay for it yeah that was pretty rough there's so many things i would

02:43:41.280 --> 02:43:49.520
love to have for free that is very i like that that's good yeah um Linus town you know what i would

02:43:49.520 --> 02:43:54.400
be i would i would be tempted i would have been tempted to pick up some of like the cool bike

02:43:54.400 --> 02:44:01.760
stickers that andrew had in his uh first motorbike but then i painted my bike uh let's see what else

02:44:01.760 --> 02:44:10.160
we got man i don't know it's it's funny because other than my like tech junk i actually don't

02:44:10.160 --> 02:44:16.400
like having a lot of clutter i'm like such a millennial gray don't have extra stuff

02:44:16.480 --> 02:44:18.080
anywhere uh person

02:44:24.480 --> 02:44:29.600
no no i actually haven't haven't really found much that i've been that interested in

02:44:31.920 --> 02:44:38.560
okay surprise surprise neither yeah but you although i do think that a lot of the purchase

02:44:38.560 --> 02:44:44.400
that people have made are cool and suit them hold on no no that might might have been a bit of a

02:44:44.400 --> 02:44:51.120
lie um because i i wasn't dailying in OLED when the first person went OLED for their gaming machine

02:44:51.120 --> 02:44:57.840
i don't think and i i think i went mo led shortly after that is that why though uh i mean like i

02:44:57.840 --> 02:45:04.000
guess the thing for me is that i'm i'm already aware of most stuff tech wise before i i see it on

02:45:04.000 --> 02:45:09.040
an AMD upgrade yeah and and a lot of the non tech stuff is people's own hobbies and their own interests

02:45:09.040 --> 02:45:14.080
which i don't necessarily share because i my main hobby is running a business because if it

02:45:14.080 --> 02:45:19.920
isn't then your business isn't really likely to be very successful unless you are really really

02:45:19.920 --> 02:45:25.040
really really good at it and you can run your own business in 40 hours a week which is like wow that's

02:45:25.040 --> 02:45:35.760
cool especially in the early days like wow good job up next i have had the joy of running a stem

02:45:35.760 --> 02:45:42.240
camp for kids of all ages recently i i'm cool i'm constantly looking for cool experience

02:45:42.240 --> 02:45:47.920
experiments or activities in tech for it do you have any suggestions for a cool stem activity

02:45:51.760 --> 02:45:59.840
fractions i really liked making like catapults and stuff trebuchet yeah trebuchets catapults

02:45:59.840 --> 02:46:05.440
that was really fun and you can like get them to try to do the math before every shot of like

02:46:05.440 --> 02:46:12.080
where it's gonna land um like i like actually tie in like actual learning objectives don't

02:46:12.080 --> 02:46:19.440
just do the fun part this one must launch it reward the yeah reward the i did the math stuff with

02:46:20.880 --> 02:46:26.000
thing get thrown and go bang and that's cool here's your projectile it has to go exactly 200

02:46:26.000 --> 02:46:31.760
feet yeah math please this may be beyond the scope and is honestly just because i've had to

02:46:31.760 --> 02:46:37.200
have this conversation a lot of times recently with my kids but i i'd love it if you did a little

02:46:37.200 --> 02:46:43.280
thing on like adhesives and help them understand you know how they function and why some of them

02:46:43.280 --> 02:46:49.600
work for some things and don't work for other things just explaining super glue at all yeah like my

02:46:49.600 --> 02:46:54.000
kids keep trying to use hot glue on 3d prints and i keep having to explain that no in fact you

02:46:54.000 --> 02:47:02.080
can't do that um unless depending on the filament maybe you can but um it's really not optimal for

02:47:02.080 --> 02:47:09.120
what they were trying to do and it's just the kind of thing that i think we don't really get like

02:47:09.120 --> 02:47:14.800
taught i like i don't remember ever being taught anything to do with yeah with adhesives and solvents

02:47:14.800 --> 02:47:19.440
and stuff like that i don't know yeah this might be more the older kids but it's just something

02:47:19.440 --> 02:47:23.360
that's on my mind because i've had to talk about it a little bit lately

02:47:25.200 --> 02:47:31.440
hey dll i'm making my way through tactics on tactician how many levels ahead of story battles

02:47:31.440 --> 02:47:39.520
did you usually have to be towards the end i didn't keep track i just uh i just played the game and

02:47:40.080 --> 02:47:44.800
tried to win and i would i don't i don't think i i don't think i ground much i think i skipped

02:47:44.880 --> 02:47:50.880
almost every random encounter which might explain why i was oh oh wait we'll hold on hold on hold on

02:47:51.520 --> 02:47:57.600
okay i'm a bit of a completionist when it comes to abilities though so i would just like hide in a

02:47:57.600 --> 02:48:02.000
corner and like hit my own guys and stuff to get abilities and then i would end up really

02:48:02.000 --> 02:48:06.880
over leveled so i i don't know i'm i'm a mess to completely ignore me in my and my strategies

02:48:07.920 --> 02:48:14.080
last one i'll count for you today good evening when wook and winus i'm writing from the future

02:48:14.080 --> 02:48:20.720
as i am visiting japan have any of you been to the tahoku area and if so where should i visit

02:48:20.720 --> 02:48:26.320
if i get the chance i'm currently in sendai i don't think i've ever been there but if i had i

02:48:26.320 --> 02:48:32.960
wouldn't know because the way that i travel for work is i get on the plane and then i arrive

02:48:32.960 --> 02:48:39.360
wherever it is that i am and then i open up an app or a cab or whatever it is that i do

02:48:39.360 --> 02:48:44.480
and i go to whatever hotel i'm supposed to go to and then in the morning i go to whatever

02:48:44.480 --> 02:48:50.240
factory tour or thing that i'm supposed to do is and then i go home and so i don't really

02:48:50.240 --> 02:48:54.800
know where i am sometimes uh because it doesn't really matter

02:48:57.600 --> 02:49:02.480
sorry uh elinor says visit the ghibli museum though that sounds amazing i'd love to go to

02:49:02.480 --> 02:49:12.480
a ghibli museum yeah cool that's it is that it for today wow okay you didn't curate many we had a

02:49:12.480 --> 02:49:20.560
lot of merge messages today but i guess um not too many questions oh wow how about that well um you

02:49:20.560 --> 02:49:29.040
guys all nokie says i'm working on this to help with your wiki page what is this oh wow

02:49:30.000 --> 02:49:35.600
whoa a whole history of like Floatplane closed beta alpha phase domain announcement

02:49:36.480 --> 02:49:41.360
okay the real trick though nokie is you've got to find other people talking about it this can't be

02:49:41.360 --> 02:49:48.320
first party this is actually pretty good yeah this has this has some information that most people

02:49:48.320 --> 02:49:54.480
don't know yeah luke has done a lot of cool stuff let's get him a well let's get him a wiki

02:49:54.480 --> 02:49:59.280
page you should have one i don't think it makes sense the most important left friend here i mean

02:49:59.280 --> 02:50:05.680
what was the other one a hockey player yeah the pretty big deal one yeah did you have a float

02:50:05.680 --> 02:50:11.440
plane no no but he has a jersey my dad has one of his jerseys it's kind of cool to have an official

02:50:11.440 --> 02:50:15.600
jersey without the like custom name on the back like it's actually just an official jersey and it

02:50:15.600 --> 02:50:20.080
is also your last name it's pretty sick that's pretty that is pretty cool i kind of want one but

02:50:20.160 --> 02:50:24.640
their jerseys are really expensive oh yeah dude they're they're so expensive

02:50:26.880 --> 02:50:32.400
all right i think that's it i'll have to get back to uh it looks so dope though oh my god

02:50:35.040 --> 02:50:38.880
maybe one day see you guys next week same bad time same bad channel bye

02:50:41.600 --> 02:50:45.120
a sweater yeah sorry oh sorry sorry sorry sorry got them

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i keep they're not wrong yeah they're not wrong
