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10 years ago Silverstone announced a case that was unlike anything we've ever seen before

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and is unlike anything we've seen since.

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Designed in collaboration with Charles Harwood, the creator of Murderbox,

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the X-forma MBX Mark II was meant to be the ultimate marriage of timeless aesthetics

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and uncompromising performance. The perfect case. There was only one small problem.

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At a price of $1,250 plus accessories, it was out of reach for most mere mortals.

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So even though Silverstone only ever made 250 of these, so many of them remain unsold

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that Silverstone offered me a deal I couldn't refuse. They would send me all the cases and in

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exchange they wouldn't have to be the ones to store them anymore. I mean there can't be that

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many of them can there? Yes there can be. Oh lordy. Let's have a look at what they sent us,

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shall we? And let's have a look at this message from our sponsor. It's probably worth noting that

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while I respect Charles's work as an artist and do think the case is incredibly cool,

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I didn't actually want three pallets of them. You shouldn't have asked for it then.

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Well it was less that I asked for them and more that if I didn't take them,

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they were headed to the scrapper, which I felt was not cool. And I know that Tony from Silverstone,

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who was the one who reached out to try to save these, feels much the same way.

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See the MBX Mark II is not an entirely ground up design. It's actually based on an older

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Silverstone case, the TJ07, which was gifted to me by my then-girlfriend-now-wife and I used

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for my daily driver for many years. It also happened to be a passion project of Tony's

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when he was a young project designer. Oh man, look at how much dust is on this thing.

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This has been in the warehouse for a very long time. This one was apparently for Joe.

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So was this one. So was this one. Dude, do you think that's the worst of it?

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What color do you think this X is supposed to be? Whoa, probably closer to that red.

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And I'm pretty sure some of these are scuffed on the inside too. Replace all screws

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damaged from flood. How many of these do we have? I mean they only made 250.

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How much of the total production do we have here? We might actually have like a significant

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percentage. Like, let's see. There's nine per pallet. No, no, let's count. We'll count. We'll

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make a pile. Let's make a pile. Okay, so here's the stitch. We've got 27 total boxes for cases,

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but two of them are labeled side panel only. And then we have five boxes of accessories.

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These could include any number of things, ranging from the case basically doesn't really function

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without it, all the way to, wow, that is the most superfluous bullshit that I've ever seen.

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Most of the case boxes, 23 of them specifically, have similar markings. Something about being for

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Joe and needing a VV panel with a red tag. Those we piled up here. The ones we're more interested

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in are these, flood damage, sample case, side panel only, and okay, this one's also for Joe,

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but it has a smiley face. Two of them actually. What's the deal with that?

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First up then, this is for you Joe. My case finally arrived. I've been waiting a decade.

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It's been 83 years. One tricky thing about the TJ07 and its derivatives is because it uses a

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unibody design for the top, front, and bottom. It's actually bent rather than being welded or

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riveted or stamped or anything cheap like that. It's really heavy. Would that have also contributed

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to the high cost then? Absolutely. Even without the modifications that Charles made,

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all of which made it far more expensive, the TJ07 was a $300 to $400 case back in the mid-2000s.

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Oh, it stinks. Does it? Oh, wow. Yeah, that's, it smells like vinegar. Check this out. Have you

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ever seen one of these? Not in person. We had one kicking around the office for a long time.

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Charles actually did a build in it for us personally, but it got quite outdated for a showcase PC.

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So to give it a chance at a new life, we gave it away at the Christmas party and Colton won it.

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This is it. Holy cow. That's cool. It's still beautiful. Wow. The goal was timeless design

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and Charles and Silverstone nailed it. Wow. The original case was full of five and a quarter

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inch bays in the front. Charles was extremely forward thinking and saw that five and a quarter

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inch was going the way of the dodo, replacing all those bays with this incredible looking

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machined light slit. That's not to say he didn't want you to have the option for an optical drive.

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This slit right here actually accommodates a slim optical drive loaded in through the top.

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All right. That's kind of cool. Even if it is data tech, it's kind of cool.

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Another ahead of his time touch is that because Charles's philosophy was that cable management

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meant making your cables beautiful rather than hiding them, he actually had Windows on multiple

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sides of the machine, one on the front and one on the back of the motherboard tray. I didn't even

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see that one at first. This was meant to show off individually sleeved cables, something that Charles

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was one of the key drivers of back when that first hit the scene. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

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Got a lot of history behind this little guy. It's a very cool case. I mean, even just this like

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one continuous like cut with a little bit of slits in it, it just looks so stylish. Yeah,

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too bad it was a nightmare to manufacture. But these were Charles touches. The original case

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had a couple of small exhaust fans here and actually accommodated dual power supplies,

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which is a cool feature, but not really a necessary feature. Yeah. Charles's impossible

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standards are both the reason that the case is so incredible and also the reason that it was

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probably always destined to fail. That's so sad. You can't build a super high end boutique product

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in a commodity industry. Sure. Or rather you can, but it's really hard to find commercial success

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with it. Why do you think every case is stamped sheet steel? Because it's cheap and then people

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will buy it because it's cheaper. Even just this piece is like got weight to it. Is this what goes

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at the front there? Oh, it totally does. That was a very satisfying click. Okay. So that's what

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for Joe looks like. Why don't we put Joe aside and have a look at a couple of the other interesting

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ones? Yeah. What are you feeling next? The sample one, because if that was the production unit,

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I want to know what a sample looks like. Sure. This one has both side panels. So that's something.

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Oh, interesting. Oh, and it's got stuff in it. Yeah.

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There we go. Oh!

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Comes off like that. There we go. Okay. Dude, these are in great shape so far. Yeah, they look

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fantastic. My understanding is that some of them are here because they didn't meet Charles's standards

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and he determined they couldn't be sold. So maybe that's what for Joe meant. Like Joe had to like

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inspect them or look at them or something. We need to find out who Joe is. The great Joe mystery.

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This is a diffusion layer with a gradient on one side. The idea was that I think it goes

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behind these guys right here to give the lighting kind of like a diffuse look. Oh, that's kind of

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cool. Kinda cool. That's really cool. One thing I'm noticing as well is you mentioned the stamp

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sheet metal before. It looks like this whole case can just like come apart because of all the screws

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and everything was like each its own sheet. Everywhere screws, no rivets. Oh, that's so cool.

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The model number is SST-CPF04. Give me three guesses what it is. It is

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a bracket to hold your GPU. It's a repurposed box full of a whole bunch of other random stuff.

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We have number 169. We have a label for 169. Let's go. I'm confused.

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Mm-hmm. Neat. Like what is it? Not sure. Okay. Oh, I'm even more. Oh wait, no, this is like a fan.

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So you can power your GPU off your fan headers. No, I think it's, it's gotta be for one of the

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accessories. Okay, okay. I'm so confused. And the last baggie here, which has two standoffs

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and this. Oh, yes, this. Do you know what it's for? No. Okay. But I know what this is for.

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This is for slimline optical drives. Oh, okay. So you could use the front one here. Yes. Cool.

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Oh, we missed something. Oh, did we? This has a quad radiator mount in the bottom

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and a giant fan filter. Oh, so you could put a quad radiator down here. I actually modded

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my TJ07 to fit a quad radiator in the bottom. But seeing all those accessories honestly raises

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more questions than we had before. Dude, I don't even know if we have enough of the accessories to

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build systems in them yet. Yeah, that's actually very true. What were all those cables and why did

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we need them? If we need them for all of, okay, let's just, okay, take a step back. Yeah. You

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know what I'm feeling next Elijah? Side panel only. That looks heavier than the other boxes.

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No, you, I'm just hamming it up. Go for it. Okay.

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My bag. Oh, Lord. Whoa, I see some color. Okay. Well, that's not a side panel.

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Holy crap. We have a lot of radiator mounts. What a weird way for it to ship.

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With just the one side panel and then the other side panel, which you definitely totally need

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be like this. Maybe that's just how Silverstone shipped it to us.

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But this wouldn't exist if that hadn't been part of the idea behind it. But like this is so

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jankily made. There's no way it's shipped to you like this. Well, no, it actually does kind of make

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sense because the way that you bought this case was through a configurator. There was no just the

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case. I see. Okay. Yeah. You had to go through a whole almost PC builder level process to determine

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what all the options you had were. So there might be other side panels that I forget about

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that were not this. So that's why they're not in there. I see. That makes more sense then.

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And for a low volume thing, you'd be surprised how janky stuff can be. Is that all that's left in

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there? The only one I noticed is this one's white, but I think the rest of them are just

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the exact same. Nope. What's that say? Loose grill. Okay. Maybe it means it didn't pass QC.

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Oh my God. This failed over this gap. That's insane. Dude, Tesla? Tesla'd be like send it.

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Logo plates. Ten pieces. Let's go. This is the flood damaged one. That's right. It was there

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when the master chief was defeated. It looks totally fine.

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Huh. Little watermark there. Oh, and it's off. What else is, is anything wrong with this?

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Okay. You know what? There is some corrosion. This one just flooded. I think this thing got hit

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with like salt water. Check out some of this corrosion. It's good enough for our customers.

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Tell you that much. What customers? I don't know. Maybe we'll build systems. Oh, that'd be pretty cool.

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Maybe we can like auction them or something and make some premium systems for some people.

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See what happens. I don't know. I don't know. I'm thinking. I'm cooking.

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Let's each pick an accessory box and we'll let the audience vote for who picked the coolest one.

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I want the small one. Well, someone was bound to want the small one. I want the heavy one.

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Oh yeah. What are these? Is this just a bag? Oh no. No, it's literally just a box of these.

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There's hundreds of them. I, on the other hand, have what appears to be the entire shipment supply

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of those random brackets that we found earlier. I have one. You got one. I got some cable management

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clips. Okay. All right. That's something. Oh, front grills. Oh god. This is an accessory box.

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Oh sure. This is what would go with each case then? Good. Good. Now things get even more

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interesting because I have sub boxes. Look at all of these O-rings. What would they be for? Like

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reservoirs. Yeah, buddy. They did a custom res for this case. Okay. What else we got? Is this more?

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These are bottoms. Oh. Yeah. You'd be able to really beat me to it. Damn it. Whoa.

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SATA backplane. Would this go in like the five and a quarter inch bay area? Yes.

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Are these not in the cases? Do the hard drive bays of any of those even work? Hey,

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I answered your question. This is what those random fan headers and four pins are for. Cool.

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So they're doing, what the crap is all this? Look at all these three pin fan headers.

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So this is like a janky old school fan hub. And then even more SATA ports? Is that that? Yeah.

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No, these are the input. And then there's your optical and your three hard drives.

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That's, wow. I kind of speechless because I didn't expect it to look like that. I see one in here.

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Wait, no, this is a different one. It's like a mini version. Oh, that's PCB one. You compensating?

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This is one man something and one man something else, but

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am I the guy who got the trash or the treasure? Well, it's cool. The value of these, it might be

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treasure. Is it though? The last one apparently sold in April of this year for 2200 US dollars on eBay.

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What? So like, if we actually have as complete of a system as that one was,

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we have like 40 grand of cases.

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Extra hard drive cage. Something. Oh, that's the fan grill for the top. There was an alternate one.

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Oh, I see. So these weren't installed in all of them. There was a way cooler one.

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I don't know if we're going to have any here though. Here's a new cable. Just little tiny

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three pin fan extension, mail to mail. Sure. What have you got? This. Ah, yes. Of that. Okay,

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here comes another accessories box. Ah, yes. More SATA cables. Ah, ah, ah.

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You ain't seen nothing yet. These are all the slim line ones for optical chips. Oh my

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dude, you can tell these weren't a hot seller. No, they had to make so many cause they sold so many.

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What do you got? What do you got? Oh, this is what was like a checklist of what was included

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in the accessory box. Oh, excellent. We are not going to have a lot of this stuff. Like this

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acrylic light block that's supposed to be in the included accessories. We got one of those.

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The Duratrans media strip, we got two. At least it'll help us maybe complete some of the other

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boxes or shift it around. Wow, it came with a lot of cables. Well, yeah. Oh, these are like LEDs.

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Yeah. No, no, they're not like LEDs. Those are LEDs. Oh, and then here's your all of your like shrink

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wrap, I think. Yeah. 382. Someone counted these. Not good use of time. Should we get someone to

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count that to verify? No. Okay. Grommets. Cheese grommet. Oh, okay. Cable management magigs.

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Even more. Whoa. Oh, we got more. Oh, buddy. We got different colors. We got different colors.

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Okay. Okay, that's cool. Okay, we're back in business. We can sell these now. I don't know what

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to do with them, to be honest with you. Oh, there's the acrylic pieces. Here's all our acrylic pieces.

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We're back in business. The only question that remains then is what do we do with them?

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Pitch one. We start a boutique system builder that sells only to people named Joe.

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We might be able to sell one. I mean, there's a Joe who works here. He needs a PC.

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Is there? It's a little plain support, Joe. Oh, I was going to ask Joe who.

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What about option two? Maybe we make some of these the whale PCs for our whale land event.

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Assuming whale land is able to go forward, still pending some details.

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That's not bad. We could save at least a couple specimens for our next charity stream.

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Just an idea? Yeah. They might take forever to build in, though. That's kind of my concern.

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Oh, we can do it. Our last stream was like eight hours. We've got nothing but all day.

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Or maybe we just need help from you guys. Yeah, let us know if you have any brilliant ideas.

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