alive
And there we go
I just refreshed it. Are you sure we're live? Oh
Yeah, there it goes. Let the record show. I
Was not the reason when is late today
The record shall show us Leslie it
This is how this is how proud you get of doing it one time. Yes
Now imagine how insufferable I'm gonna get when I do it more times
You're not gonna do it more times. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm home on Fridays for like the rest of the year
It's not gonna happen. No, it's gonna happen. No, it's not it's gonna happen
You know what could go in your favor you you should you got a lobby
You got to try to keep the government shut down going because if I can't fly back
Oh, dude, I heard like hundreds of flights were canceled today
There's like 4% of flights or something mine still seems to be
going Yeah But then I fly I back down here again on Monday. So we are really late. Should we start the show? We'll see yeah
Just do it. Okay
Oh
Yes, I usually do it over here, right? Yes
Yes
Theoretically I had Vance fix my 2FA crap. I haven't actually checked it yet. I'm hoping for the best though
I
What am I looking for right immediately distracted
Okay, no authentication loops so far. That's nice. I like
Hello What's up big dog god I have 81 emails from the last two days. This is so stupid
See this is why I never respond to emails
Because the second I respond to an email someone's gonna send me another email and it's compounding
The more emails I send the more I get
Yeah, we like pretty much shouldn't use emails internally. I mean less there for like specific use cases
Strong disagree because I can't do anything that isn't in an email
Why? Because I'll forget
Dear god Like man, you send me like a teams message or something like I can't I get what if one person has more than one thing
They need me to do I'm gonna remember to go back and like read the previous like teams chat
What if I have to talk what if I have to chat with that person about something in between having like two hours to do a longer thing?
Like there's no way I couldn't there's no way I could manage that it has to be email
You're right. We're not we're not sponsored by any task tracking apps or anything. Oh, dude
No way to there's no way I'm gonna look at that There's no there's no email tools that you can use for like doing that automatically or anything
Well, why would I do that? It's already just there in my email inbox. Yeah, for sure. The whole company's just be slightly less efficient
What's more efficient about transferring something over to some other list instead of just having one list
No, it's like email has been relatively measured to be a slower form of communication a
Lot of companies operate on like day-to-day messaging back and forth should be through instant messaging and then things like memos or
Things like that should go through emails. Well, okay Well, hold on hold on hold on because like I mean I think that's pretty similar to what I kind of lay out for emails
I'm like, yeah, you need me to do it. Maybe you Well, no, it's a company though
It's the same thing if you need me to do it for sure eventually then it's an email like if it's a longer task or if it's like requires
reading and thought If you need it right away, then send it on teams or if you want bigger problem
My bigger problem is that we don't have like a standard and and people don't necessarily want a standard
Like I've talked to some people about trying to get one done and like someone that I talked to was literally like
Yeah, I just kind of like I don't know flip a coin and
Send the message on either one. I've had a conversation with one person in particular where I was like, what the heck because
Like effectively mid conversation. They just switched to emailing me
Which meant that like the information was split between teams and email and I was like this this sucks
But since when do we not have a standard? The standard is if it needs to be done
Non-urgently or is more work than its email if it needs back-and-forth discussion than its teams and if it's absolutely urgent pick up a phone
Like that's the standard Sure, is that not I'm well, I mean, yeah, is it not though? No, not at all. It's not followed. It's not even followed by you
When do I not follow that you email things that are like
Anything you'll email a screenshot of something that literally has it doesn't it's not even a task. It's just so it's just like
For awareness, I guess you'll you'll send you'll send an email
That's literally just a subject line, which again can often just be like informational like no, you don't you can't get away with that
Like for receiving that type of communication you do not follow
Hold on because part of the part of the thing for teams was that it needs back-and-forth if it's just a bulletin
Which you said yourself then emails fine. I don't need a response
It's not a bullet. Oh my god. It's not a bulletin. It is a bulletin
All right, where's okay charge punch it sure
This is gonna be a fun show because I'm really tired and he's cranky
All right, I'm doing it oh oh
Shoot I didn't open the window. Oh Boy, and I'm logged into the wrong channel
Sick Dan, you're gonna have to tell me when it's live
What's up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show we've got a great show lined up for you guys this week
Video games it turns out are more accurate than we thought also bad movies the password
for the Louvre for part of their security system was literally Louvre
Which um nice, you know what I like it nice and easy to remember no
No one on staff will ever forget that You know you wouldn't have issues logging into things if that's what our passwords are like if your password for teams was just teams
You know your life would be better Also, I'm gonna talk about my experience at the airport with a total jackass
Yes, because because because
Trouble sucks enough already, and I don't need to be getting in an argument with people before six in the morning
Over things that they are completely Objectively 100% wrong about oh
Boy, I don't need I have no idea what this is about
But the fact that he's that juiced up, and we're not even like into the show yet is it's both exciting and concerning at the same time
It's been a heck of a week for YouTube, and we're gonna talk about that
We unfortunately can't talk about the things that I saw today, but there's other things going on at YouTube and
also Find the good news
Find it you can do it you can do it
Stop killing games sure. Yeah, it's pretty good. Stop killing games petition was debated in UK Parliament, and we'll talk about that
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They'll get over it What do you want to jump right into?
Well, what was the the title topic was the Louvre thing let's just do that. Yeah, let's do that
This was prepped by mr. Jordan block from the writing team if you've ever been disappointed by terrible
Security practices depicted in your favorite media video games movies books, and you've gone. Oh
Come on. This isn't even plausible This totally wrecks my suspension of disbelief because there is no way that you know
Insert Institution here be it a bank museum or even your local library could be so careless as to just have the password be the name of the
Oh my god, it happened at the Louvre
The investigation into the October 18th broad daylight heist of more than
$100 million worth of jewels from the Louvre I'm putting it on that the quotes because I think a lot of the valuation of it was kind of like sentimental, right?
Is that is that correct am I missing something here because I thought it wasn't actually worth that much in like melted down gold, right?
I Feel like that's true
As far as my understanding goes they targeted things that you could sell if it was melted down
And the assumption that I heard was just in case it was like too hot to move
They could just melt it down and sell it for its materials. Anyway, the investigation revealed some stunning lapses in security going back at least
a decade a
2014 audit by the French cyber security agency found that the password for the video surveillance system was apparently
Louvre L-O-U-V-R-E in all caps and other security and other security systems had
equally trivial passwords a
Follow-up audit started in 2015 and concluded two years later reported and this is a quote
serious shortcomings included Outdating outdated and malfunctioning security systems
documents from 2025 Indicate that the museum was still using unsupported security software purchased in and I kid you not
2003 running on Windows server
2003 Even awesome even
Extended EOL for Windows server 2003 R2 was July of 2015
10 years ago and mainstream support ended five years earlier than that now our discussion question
And I'm gonna draw Dan into it nice hoodie Dan. Thank you. You look great
That's a weird thing to do with it I'm showing off the new
Pockets good that is wonderful. I'm a normal person we know
Okay, he's gonna keep doing it wonderful so TC tugger is everybody
Do you guys do you hot? Okay? Do you guys want to have a little bit of storytime sure yes talk about talk about just some some sort of egregious
Security things that you've experienced like at work say for instance. Hopefully Luke doesn't have too many stories
Hasn't worked too many places other than here. I
Can talk a little bit about about NCIX I did something stupid at my last job as well. Oh sure you want to go first
Yeah, sure when I was an inexperienced systems administrator and I was running AD at my last job
I exposed port 80 publicly so that we could have remote desktop working
and the main editing server video server and I you know and VR server ended up getting
overtaken with like fake Ransomware they didn't actually have ransomware the pop-up just said that it had ransomware
Oh my god, and then they were also using it to like scam old people by creating hundreds of like Facebook accounts
I am the botnet now. Yeah, they didn't they didn't change any of the passwords. It was just like full botnet server
I just logged in and everything was fine, and I saw this stuff. I went, okay
Well, is yeah, oh, no, okay, it ended up being totally fine. So no lessons learned at all my
Neat, okay My story was gonna be about NCIX where Luke you might remember this there was probably about a 5050 shot
That if you typed netlink 888 into a password field it would just grant you immediate
Authentication into whatever system it was you were trying to access. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure
I mean, but okay in fairness in fairness
Password managers were they a thing yet?
Not mainstream anyway really Kind of extremely non mainstream and really annoying to use ones were
But like corporate level like I don't really think so like it's a legitimate problem
There's a reason that people would put passwords on post-it notes
And that people would just like you or have them on a sticky note on their keyboard or whatever the case may be like
We've been talking about You know our password manager management and then and little things like that
slightly over the last little bit and I
Was visiting a company recently and asked them like, you know, I don't know if you can answer me, but
What do you guys use for password management? And this was a
Big time big money company, that's what I say
Their answer was we don't Even big-time big money companies have like normal people working at them that just quite frankly can't be arsed
Yep, like they were legitimately like I don't know like Google keychain or whatever. I was like, oh
Yeah, all right. Now. I did continue the conversation because I was like, right that doesn't really sound a hundred percent
Well, I'm sure the it team uses stuff
Well, yeah, so It's it's mostly SSO
Which which did make a lot of sense. So a lot of these companies can kind of force a
Very large amount of their accounts to be done through SSO but outside of that
They do have a key and they have a
They have some like service sharing thing which sounded really cool, but for most of your accounts, it's just local
Wow, I mean, you know what the thing is the thing too though is that most accounts and
Okay, this is ah man. We are like minutes into the show and I'm gonna say something super controversial
Most accounts don't really matter
A lot of it's pretty unimportant dude I don't want to FA on
Some stupid like game service that I used to buy one game that I use for benchmarking
Let especially if we can we can probably recover it if anything goes down and if it does get stolen
If someone has it for like a couple days, it's $30 worth of league skins like I just don't care
You know, well, no like our benchmarking accounts to be more valuable. No, no our benchmarking accounts
We should we should we absolutely should but like personally, right?
Like I'll have services that are just they're Badgering me to implement to FA or in some cases. They even force me to implement to FA and I'm just like bro
You ain't that important my password for you is literally the name of the service. It's the password is louvre
88 like I don't care You know, I wonder I wonder how many people are gonna start using that as their like throwaway password
You're on to me
Yeah, I don't know I
There's like that like one of the yeah, I'm actually not gonna get into it because I don't need to talk about our security practices, but
Yeah, there's there's a certain amount we're like if we're if we're really being honest with ourselves
It's not all that important and for this company. I don't think they're just like stupid
I Suspect it's that type of thing where for things that are genuinely really important they have SSO and
For for a couple of the things they have like a lot not very common, but they have a system where they can like
Share creds around. Yeah, but it's not really a password manager like if someone said of that just whatever if someone got into our shutter
Stock account, let's say Okay, the worst thing they could do because like we'll have payment information in there, but it'll be obfuscated
It's obviously right so they could they could find our corporate address
Which is on Google Maps? Yeah, they could find the name of whoever admins shutter stock for us, which realistically
It's probably still under Edsel like
Whatever they could they could up your subscription tier
Yeah, they could they could spend a bit of our money like they could they can probably get back
Which we could probably get back so like at the most they could waste a little bit of our time now
I'm not saying our password for shutter stock is shutter stock 888 or whatever stock Louv
Yeah But I personally
Wouldn't care if it was and we had no 2FA on that account because I don't think it matters where you run into trouble though
is that any policy that is to apply common sense and
Use 2FA where it matters and not use 2FA where it doesn't matter relies on
Everybody involved having common sense and you can't
You if your policy was you wouldn't need policy if everyone could follow common sense policy. I
think that's Maybe mean but also
Probably fair We've got some other good stories in the chat
Hold on where is it? Yeah, funny hats and Floatplane chat. So is he frozen down?
Nope. Oh, okay. Wow. You know, he's just
Okay, funny hats in Floatplane chat says I've remembered it going all the computers in tiger direct and typing in tiger to get in I
Mean, yeah, especially back then like in the late 90s or early 2000s. That really doesn't surprise me that much because and
Okay, I might out us a little bit here, but for benchmarking computers in particular. There are a handful of credentials that
People kind of expect to see on them because otherwise it would be chaos
Like if everybody if on every computer that we unboxed on ShortCircuit logistics fricking signed into a Microsoft account
like that would That would be potentially a nightmare because if for whatever reason whatever account someone uses got deactivated or
We didn't have access to it or whatever It just sucks it sucks to have to do a to have to do a full reset on these devices
Oh Luke I see you're in chat talking about one of our topics today. Do you want to get to that one right now?
Yeah, why don't we get into that right away? So there was a
Let me scroll to my topics. I threw a couple notes in there. It's pretty straightforward though
Flow plane there was a back-end update on flow plane trying to reduce tech debt and do some other things
That included a little bit of human error
Unfortunately, we're not better than you know, Amazon Cloudflare Microsoft and all the likes said error resulted in
Some users being charged multiple times generally up to four
Which is clearly not good. We've already pushed a fix so it shouldn't be happening anymore
And all of those users have been refunded if you don't see it in your account yet
It might take a little bit banking sometimes is has, you know delays
Can can that be a topic today too? Like that it's so freaking slow to transfer funds around. Yeah
like around the world like how
How so okay because I can't reconcile this Luke on the one hand
You've got scammers that are able to bulk people out of like millions of dollars in some cases or companies or whatever
And and the money seems to be just like Irreversibly like immediately gone and then on the other hand you've got I'm trying to transfer some funds from one
Canadian bank that we bank at to another Canadian bank and have to wait like three to four days and I'm just like
Brother no, but seriously How many bytes of data is whatever authentication key you need plus the dollar value of the amount like
I don't know. I don't know. I know like to pay my credit card off
Can genuinely take many days sometimes like I am pretty sure I've had it take like four days before
Which is sketch and resulted in me like prepaying certain amounts just to make sure I don't get dinged and like all this weird
Oh, dude, I used to do that all the time back when I was responsible for paying my own credit card bill
Love you Yvonne. Um, but I would I would just like sometimes I would just
Transfer money into my credit card because it would it's sometimes it was a few days before transactions would go through
And I would just like I'd have extra money in my savings or my checking account
I'd be like, well, I don't really need this and realistically I'm going to spend money on my credit card anyway
Because already I was so I would just I'd just be like, yeah, I don't know
I'll put a couple hundred bucks in there because that way If I did spend a couple hundred bucks and like it hasn't shown up yet
And then I like forget about it for a month because that could happen
Then I won't pay I won't pay interest on it
Yeah, so I just to keep going through this is not financial advice
But yeah, we so we we push the fix it shouldn't be happening anymore
All users have been refunded. It might take some time to show up in your account
I know for sure that a bunch of users have already seen the money show up in their accounts
So hopefully that's happening to you if it doesn't happen to you and you you wait a little bit and still not there
Please reach out to support. We really do want everyone to be taken care of. Yep. I'm sorry about this. We apologize
Conrad oh Conrad
Conrad helpfully pointed out that payments are dated So if the transaction doesn't go through for four days, it's still marked as the day you submit it
But it's still like there's still a mental toll
Right because you're sitting there not knowing if you've received it
And for all the good it does you that we dated it for the day of the refund or whatever
It doesn't help give you peace of mind that you've been sorted out and it
Doesn't help us immediately know that. Oh, yeah, we've got all the bugs sorted and we've got
Okay, the bugs are sorted, but it doesn't help us immediately know if
All of the attempts to process these refunds have actually gone through because not every funds transfer goes through successfully
So it just is a long delay where instead of us being able to go. Okay. Here we go one shot. Yep. We've sent them all
Confirm and let us know you're good. We have to go. Okay. Well, we sent them all
Now we play the waiting game
Yeah, um Okay, gonna keep going through the topic. Uh, yeah, we have at least one
frustrated user here in the in the full-point chat
Experience of waiting months. What the heck? That's insane. Um, if if you got something like overdraft fees or whatever
You know reach out to support we'll we'll try to
Ooh help in some way actually don't know if we can do anything about that. Oh, yeah, we can't do much
But we can probably give them free time. Oh, okay. Yeah, that could be
Uh, we can try to help in some way. I would
Kind of caution just like if it's that tight maybe just don't
but You know, um, which should be clear is not as like, you know
Trying to shake responsibility for this but also it is a position that we have to take care of you
It is a position that we've taken before that if money is super tight
Um, you should use it for food. You can always cancel now and come back later. Yeah, the exclusives will be there
Um, so you'll you'll be able to go back and watch the ones you might have temporarily missed or whatever
I just we're not we're not trying to
Push people that hard, you know, like I really appreciate all the subscriptions. It's like it's very meaningful
It helps keep people at full-point employed all that kind of stuff. It's great. It's it's fantastic. Thank you for being subscribed
I just I don't it. I I just it makes me sad hearing that and I don't want people to be in that situation
Luke doesn't want to be sad. We're yeah, don't make luke sad. Yeah, this is this is selfish. This is this is for me
Luke it's not for you. Hold on. I'm gonna I'm hitting the button only for me
Move the button move the button Dan. You gotta move it. This is
I actually don't care about your financial situation. I just don't want to be sad. Okay, so figure it out. Um,
It's still on me Dan You know what? It's probably fine
Um indanadian and Floatplane chat says western union is shockingly fast and cheap for anything below 10 000
dollars It's nearly instantly transferred and I guess that's my point though is like I can't go anywhere in a major
Metropolitan center without tripping over western union locations
I shouldn't need western union Like it it's I just it should just be easy
It should just be built right into my banking app on my phone and I should just be able to just do it to anywhere
I don't get it
You wouldn't like him when he's sad Oh
I would also say that with this update. There is a good thing
Peter pushed a feature enabling auto-generated subtitles, which is cool. They're not currently GPU accelerated
So we'll have to switch that over later and they'll we'll make them like higher quality at that time
Uh, they're they're pretty okay for now though Um creators including us would still be like would have better subtitles if we generate them ourselves, but
Um, it is there. So nebulously in the future. This will will get better, but um, yeah, hopefully that
That helps things. Oh, that's cool Um, but just to be clear, I I'm a little bit confused. There's some people talking in full plane chat
Um, you don't have to file tickets
Uh to get your refunds. You don't have to
Um, it would it would actually be bad for us, but I mean you do you
You don't have to communicate with your credit card company to get refunds. You don't have to do anything
We are issuing the refunds for you. We are sending the money back. You don't have to do anything. It's all being handled
Hey, look, um, yeah, what are we using for these auto subtitles?
These are really good whisper
Really Is that one auto subtitled or is that one an up uploaded subtitles? Oh good question. I don't know
Uh, yeah, not sure. Do we do uploaded subtitles?
Uh, I believe for some videos. That's not a process that I'm super a part of
But I know I know for some videos that they do I mean this one didn't have a script
So there would have been no convenient way to do it other than watching the video and then
Well, we we have built like the tyler a while ago built a
A ui For using whisper because the the editors didn't want his command line, which is understandable
Um Yeah, okay, so tour d'ercasing historically you only upload for full open exclusive
I don't run subtitles myself So i'm not super up-to-date on which ones we do and on which ones we don't
I just know that Chewie's in the chat. He says we only do manual subs on uh
So that one would have been auto generated. Yeah, wow. We are also just so people know
We are trying to run this on all all of our backlog over time a ton of the backlog already has it
But not a hundred percent of them Um, how often do you actually I use the specific card? How did it get shmoo Luke?
Like that's really impressive Whispers fantastic. Yeah, so we so this is this is a feature and
You think it's good now. It'll be even better in the future. Um, so
Yeah, it might hopefully let me make sure i'm reading this right and not uh saying things that peter's gonna be mad at me over
Uh, give me one second. Wow
I'm I'm I I'm impressed
I'm impressed That's pretty cool. It's spelled shmoo right
Uh, yeah, yeah, chewie just confirmed that that specific video is auto generated in the cms
Cool. Nice. Because I man and it was getting things like GPU, right? Like I've
The youtube auto subtitles have been kind of a mess. Do we have any idea what they're using?
I have no clue probably not whisper though because whispers from open ai
Um, got him. So I like seriously doubt it. Um, let me see read peter's a
Yeah, it's running whisper small right now, which I I
believe is If I remember it's been a while since I've messed with whisper, but if I remember quickly that's not their best
Uh version so once we get to GPU's we should be able to run better than that. Let me see whisper quality settings
Yeah model size they have tiny base small medium and large larger models are more accurate
But slower smaller models are faster. The large model is the most accurate but requires a GPU for practical use
So we're running small which is kind of in the middle
So tiny and base are smaller than tell me something we have that meeting that we've started doing on
I think it's a monthly basis where it's like a cross cross pollination of video ideas meeting
Like should we be should we be doing an LTT where we build
Like a whisper GPU server and we huck it in the server room. Like can we just yeah, we want to okay, and so that was a project
Uh, oh cool. Okay. I'd be so down which Got like kind of semi canceled due to reasons
And we're trying to get back because we want to do more stuff than just like
Uh, you know whisper translations, uh, sure. Yeah, I'm down
There's there's also like let's look at CPU versus GPU transcoding in 2025 or six by the time
It actually happens if we're being honest Yeah, well, but let's like let's look at what are the quality difference these days
Because like the the the standard knowledge when we started flow plane was like CPU transcoding was the way because GPU transcoding looked like junk
Is that still true anymore because as far as my understanding, you're right
Um, or maybe there's a difference, but it's so minor that users aren't going to notice
So that's my understanding to transcode on GPU's that would go way faster. Um, I would love to say cheaper
I don't know if that's true because card prices are just so through the darn roof
Um, but yeah, it's an interesting thing the cards you need to video transcode aren't necessarily
That well, they're expensive but not in like a from like a commercial
You know use standpoint. They're they're not that ludicrous like you're not have to gonna have to go and spend $5,000 on like
Or five $50,000 on an h200 or something like that. I really don't think so
Like that would that's just for ai like at most you'd be picking up like a quadri equivalent
Whatever they call those these days I just I feel like there's been knock-on effects that have made a lot of things really expensive
but I mean, I'm also pretty interested in
I don't know getting the budget for this or getting people to send us cards might be pretty annoying
But it would be really cool to do it across the vendors as well
Um, like what's that? What's that Intel thing that Intel cluster battle really cool name? No, no, uh, oh shoot. What is it called?
No, battle mage is just the uh Oh, man, battle that lacks. No dang it
Intel battle
Four cards cluster. What's it called?
Dang battle matrix battle matrix. That's it such a sick name, dude
Oh my goodness, like it would be fun to to try out on battle matrix see what happens
um I don't know. It's just that would that would be cool. I would like it
I don't know how many people are gonna be that interested in watching it, but I think it would be really fun
um, but yeah auto-generated uh subtitles hopefully that's helpful for people
Um, and it's been chugging through the backlog for a while now
um And yeah, check it out. Yeah, but I guess I mean even if we finish the backlog
There would still be a benefit to us building like a badass server to do it because
That way we can do it again with the larger model and then as it improves
We could do it again, and then we can keep refining keep refining it
Yep, because because just like chewie pointed out, um, it does become
Not as great when there's like a group conversation
Um, like it's it's it's definitely not always perfect. It's it has its downsides
But yeah, it's pretty good. It's a lot better than nothing. Yeah
Super cool. Okay, and honestly like like you said the youtube one is
Really not great. So like so that's what we're up against. Yeah, exactly
Dan what are we supposed to be doing? Uh about topic two
I mean topic three Sure. Yeah, we can we can do it. We can do a third topic
um How about we talk about my terrible awful no good very bad morning at the airport
So I had a recent trip down to down yonder california way
And I was on my way back as part of this trip. I had to bring with me some electronic devices
um just you know for for reference, right and
So I I ended up having I think you know this luke, but I almost never travel with a check bag
Uh, a I don't like the hassle of having a larger bag
B. I don't like my stuff being away from me. Um, just because it's
Super stressful having to worry about when I get to the other side
Is my luggage actually going to be there? So if there's anything I can do to avoid it
I will not take anything more than a personal item backpack and then a carry-on bag
Um, in fact actually even my recent trip to asia where I was gone for 11 days in japan and china
I took only a little roller carry-on bag
Arguably by the end of it. I could have smelled better than I did
But it's better than not having your luggage in my in my book
And I just I've traveled enough over the years and I've seen kind of everything that can go wrong
And I've seen how it just kind of always seems to go wrong and I just I hate it anyway
The point is on this recent trip down california way I
Had to carry Uh a checked bag because of all the electronic devices that I needed to bring with me for reference
Um, I had a couple desktop computers. I had a couple of like mobile devices
Anyway going down totally not a problem
but I had a seven seven and something am flight seven seven thirty or something like a seven 20 am flight
Coming back So I had to be at the airport a little bit before six in the morning and I go to check in
And I I put my bag up on the weighing thing and he's like, oh you're two pounds over. I'm like, oh shoot. Okay. Well like
It's two pounds. Does it really matter? And he's like, uh, yeah, is there anything that you can take out and put into your backpack?
All right, so so I pull because like it's so
I'm sure the airlines have reasons for doing things the way that they do them
But I think lift hanza is the only airline that I have ever seen
Where they even weigh your personal item
And they're so intense about it, dude Dude, do you have we ever told the story of what we had to do that one time?
I don't think so Every every time I've ever flown with them afterwards
I've had like a minor amount of trauma where I'm just like I'm like holding my bags up trying to just like physically
Determine if they're if they're overweight and like I'll put a crazy amount of stuff in my pockets
I'll just like jam my pockets whole of things. It's like no
I'm not gonna be overweight, especially if I'm by myself and I can't do what we did
so there was four of us and A couple of us were way overweight
And a couple of us were way underweight and we basically were like, okay
Well, does this matter because on average we are all we're on average. We're underweight under and they were like
Yes, it matters. So at the bag check
We had we opened up all our luggage
And then balanced around all the crap in them
Put them all back together and then put them on the weigh station. We're like, okay
Did this make a difference to the plane being able to take off or not?
Anyway, that's a whole that's a whole separate that's a whole separate story. Um
So anyway, I'm like, okay. Well, like does the extra two two pounds matter. He's like, yes, it does. I'm like, okay fine
As I'm like getting ready to like open it up and and rebalance put some stuff into my backpack
He goes, uh, do you have any electronics items? Uh, any, uh, any fuels, uh, you know, any sharp items?
Whatever, you know, like the standard questions that they they ask you. I'm like, oh
Well, I do have some electronics and he goes, oh, well, you can't have any of those in there
And I go What do you mean? It's like I they don't have batteries
And he goes, well, you can't you can't have any electronics in your check bag
and I go No, I'm I'm quite certain that it's fine to have
Electronics in my bag as long as they don't have batteries like I I I have a desktop computer
I am So glad that I had the presence of mind
to say I have a desktop computer
Because if I had told them what my real concern was
If I had said my entire check bag is packed to the gills with electronics
I don't know if I would have gotten on my flight Because I went back and forth with this guy
I kid you not over half a dust probably over 10 times
Like just having probably the most inane conversation that I have ever had with a retail worker of any kind
I haven't even I haven't even gotten it out of the bag yet, but I basically by this point. I'm going
Hey, no, I really don't think that's right and he goes
I'm telling you sir You can't have
Any computers you can't have any electronics in your bag. So I I happen to be at a bag check
So I pick up the piece of paper that's sitting in a plastic stand and I go can you show me on here
Where it says I can't have any electronics And he goes I'm telling you and I'm like
Right, I hear you telling me But what I really need you to do is show me on here where it says I can't have electronics
And he points at it like vaguely he goes right there and I'm like hold on
That says electronics with lithium batteries
It's a desktop computer. It doesn't have any battery and he like cuts me off. He interrupts me. He goes
I told you there's no electronics. I go. Okay. Look
Like by this point I'm just like Okay, two deep breaths. I would like to speak to a supervisor. He goes. I am the supervisor and I go
I'm like, okay Then we really need to resolve this someone higher than because this does not say no electronics
It says no electronics with batteries and goes sir. I'm done with you
And he like basically throws my passport down onto the counter
And I'm sitting here going like This is actually pretty f***ed up right now
How you can be a supervisor
at air canada Handling bag check and not f***ing know
That if someone is trying to move an electronic device
Like how would anybody have gotten to like LTX whale lands in the past if there's no way to check a computer in a luggage
I mean we've we've flown with computers Atonetized we've flown with cameras and stuff too. We just take the batteries out like it's not uh, well, yeah
How would how would a documentary film crew ever do anything if you couldn't
If you couldn't check electronics in a bag, you think they carry them all so this guy literally so
By this point. I'm like, well look no I have to fly like we're not done here
Do you do you want me to take it out and show you he goes? Well, I don't see how that's gonna help but fine
So I pull it out. I have this desktop computer. I'm like, this is it and he's like, yeah, you can't fly with that
I'm like, you gotta be you gotta be kidding me right now. Yes, I can he's like, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore
And I'm just like, so what do you want me to do? Like carry it. He's like fine
I'm like, okay And like realistically like I could have I could have phoned Air Canada
Support and been like, can you explain to this f***ing asshole that like I'm allowed to take a computer in my bag
Like but I don't know if I would have made my flight. I don't know how long that would have taken
so instead Thankfully again, I had the presence of mind to not disclose that my entire bag was full of electronics
So I opened it up like like so he couldn't see into my bag took out the one computer
closed it And was like, well now I'm under weight and I just so I had to carry this stupid f***ing computer with me
I'm sitting there in the I'm sitting there at the gate at like a little cafe table with my stupid desktop computer on the table
while I'm eating my french toast at sfo and
And then I go and I get on the plane and it's a good thing. I had the commuter bag
Right because if I'd had the og backpack I was on the tiniest like tin can plane coming back here that had no room in the overhead for anything
Like and it was completely full. So if I had had the og backpack
I wouldn't have even been able to fit the computer under by the chair in
Front of me, but I was able to put the computer down there put my backpack onto it. And I'm just like
Come on man
It was amazing seeing all this Everyone in the chat during the intro of the video was like when Linus says someone's objectively wrong about something
It means subjective. No, that is not that is not true
Maybe it has happened on occasion, but no, I was objectively right
There is nothing wrong with flying with electronics in your check bag
It's batteries that are the concern and this computer was so old
It wouldn't have even had a live CMOS battery let alone any kind of like lithium lithium pouch cells or anything like that
unbelievable and Pat coba pad poduck or whatever your name is in Floatplane chat says did you call air canada after
They contract the guy down and give him some education. Yes. I did. I sent them an email
Or like I filled out their form. I gave the guy's name and I was just like look
This is not I managed to get on my flight. This is not about like
retribution or whatever But he does need to know because if he's supposed to be the supervisor that is handling people's check bags
Then he needs to learn either the regulations or he needs to learn to read. I didn't say it that way
But I basically just said he needs to familiarize himself with the regulations for what is allowed to go in a check bag because
This could have been very disastrous for my return home
um man Every one of my recent trips has had something dude. Did we talk on wanshow about triple c yet?
Uh Triple c. Yeah, I don't think so. So my recent chip trip to china
I got a really nice battery bank confiscated
I was really frustrated. It was a really expensive one like one of those big high cap
I think ugreen makes it and it was like 60 45 or 60 watts power delivery
So I could run basically anything I wanted off of it indefinitely like rog ally or like uh
Like my laptop or whatever Why was it confiscated? So it was confiscated because in china they have a new no
It was not because it was more than 100 watt hours scrappy dp. It was airline airline safe. So it was like 99.98 watt hours or whatever
um But they have a new regulation in china called triple c and they no longer accept
any kinds of international certifications for the safety of
lithium battery devices, but the the really like
I don't mind rules and regulations
Right thoughtfully applied rules and regulations
Help keep society functioning. They help keep people safe. They can do all kinds of good things
They can also do bad things
But they can also just be arbitrary and kind of stupid and in this case
I don't know man. I um It feels a little arbitrary
So rather than accepting what what are some of the other ones? UL has like a certification for battery banks. I think right
Uh csa. Actually, I don't know if csa is the canadian one csa. I don't know if they do battery banks
But a lot of the time in canada Um, I think there are categories of products that you don't have to have csa as long as they have like uh an accepted international one
What what are what are some of the other ones? um No one in chat is throwing any at me here, but whatever the point is that um, you know
Various countries have various certifications for these devices and in general as long as it is certified by some sort of reputable body
It's fine. Now in fairness to the chinese authorities
There have been some incidents especially recently where there have been some some lithium batteries that have exploded and anchor had that
Recent big controversy where they had to recall like
How many millions upon millions of dollars worth of battery banks because they they had some issues with the cells
Yeah, but my problem with all of this is that the way that triple c works
Is that it's it's a stamp on the outside of the device because I was looking all this up because I got my stupid battery bank confiscated
So I was trying to figure out what the heck was going on And all they checked when I got on when I got through security was if it has a triple c stamp on it
But as it turns out the only way that you can verify if the triple c is actually valid
Is you have to enter a serial number into a site to check but nobody was doing that anyway
And here's where it gets even more arbitrary. You are allowed to because I flew into china with my battery bank obviously, right?
So you're allowed to fly into china without a triple c battery bank
You are allowed to fly out of china
Without triple c on your battery bank
The only reason I ran into trouble was because I was taking a domestic flight
So I can fly on a chinese airline Into china over the water on a long flight and that's totally safe without triple c
I can fly on a chinese airline somewhere else
And that's totally fine But if I do a little hop little one hour hop within china
Whoa, you have to have triple c. You don't have triple c. You don't got boy
So I was I was a little frustrated little frustrated got a free battery bank, dude little frustrated, and I'm not the only one. I mean
Chinese citizens don't always express their frustration with the chinese government super
vocally because you know might affect their social credit score or whatever else
But there has been a fair bit of frustration over triple c because
It only I think manufacturers only really started producing triple c certified battery banks like last year 2024
So functionally what it did was it made every battery bank before like
a year ago E-waste if you hope to travel with it because and this is the really really frustrating part for me
It apparently applies to trains as well
like On an airliner I get it a fire is actually
a disaster, you know in a in a Pressurized tin can you know ripping across the face of the earth at you know tens of thousands of feet above the surface
Right like that. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense to me on a train
Like I have a battery bank in my backpack like really
I don't know man. Like yeah, obviously a lithium fire anywhere is bad
But I just at that point why not ban them from cars? Why not ban them from buses?
Why not ban them why not ban them in the library at school?
Like I where why are we drawing such an arbitrary line?
Yeah, it's um
I think batteries are interesting They're thanks. They're fine. But also everywhere and not generally a problem. So it's it's it's strange
um battery fires on planes are
brutal Oh, yeah Um, oh, yeah, so like I get it
Yeah, I don't know. I kind of get it. I understand a country wanting to have more control over that
But it seems inconsistently applied No, you're a blue. I didn't talk to anyone about social credit score. I was mostly meming
um However, it is very clear in public interviews with people in china that they are more careful about what they say than
People in some other places. I was I was reading this really interesting interview with
This guy who's he's like a chinese donald trump impersonator. Have you seen this guy?
Uh, I think so Uh, yeah, I'm I'm gonna see who did uh, who did the profile of him?
recently
This guy this is great
He's got the body language nailed down
You guys you guys should check out his videos, but um
his interview is Very fascinating because he's extremely careful about not getting his
His social channels taken down. He's like, yeah, I you know, I'm not trying to offend anybody. This is not political
I'm just doing a voice. That's all no really though. It's not political. I'm not trying to insult anybody
Please nobody get me in trouble. It's just a voice
um, like really leans into it and Maybe his fear is totally
You know unfounded or maybe it's not. I don't know. I don't live there
All right, Dan what you want to talk about next why don't we do a couple merch messages and the cw stuff
Sure, we can do that. So if you're new Merch messages are the way to interact with the wandshow. Hey, there's one right there. Look at that
Uh, all you got to do to send a merch message is head over to lttstore.com looks a little something like boom this
Whoa, we got some promos Look at all these banners and promos and all this exciting stuff, but we'll get to that a little bit later first
I'm just going to show you guys all you got to do to send a merch message Is add this fine juicy piece of chicken to your cart
Head on over to your cart And when we're live, you'll see a merch message
You just go ahead and fill in what you want to say to the show put a nice little color decide if you want to have your
First name and last initial or if you want to be anonymous and go ahead and place your order
It will go to producer Dan who will put it down there if you have a little shout out or he'll
Reply to it himself or he will curate it for me and luke to answer
We like merch messages because they're kind of like what streamers do where you throw your money at the screen
And maybe they acknowledge you maybe they don't accept
You get fine high quality merchandise in the mail regardless of what happens with your message Dan
Do you want to show us a couple curated ones to show how that works? Yeah, sure
This one's from an an on any smart home content coming up soon. I find it to be super entertaining
Yes, there will be Lots of smart home content. I still have to fix my house and in addition to that
I think we're going to take a pretty different approach
to the tech house that we are in the process of
Shopping for right now. So Colton actually has a list of five houses sitting in my inbox right now
I've been a little bit busy this week and I haven't gotten a chance to get to it
And email is a totally valid way for him to send me a task like that, luke
Um, so I have five houses that I'm supposed to review
And once I do that, I think the first episode is going to be going around and kind of shopping and comparing and
I mean I feel like this is one of those things where
As much as it would be prudent for us to
Take our time over a span of like a couple months and and shop and shop and shop till we drop and find the perfect perfect house
I mean the whole content is we're going to fix it up. Anyway, so I'm I'm kind of I haven't told anybody this
But I'm kind of leaning. Okay. If we have five finalists
We go see them all in one day And we make an offer and that's the stakes for that video
So we make an offer on one of them So that'll be the very first episode and then the second one will probably be okay
Let's take a deeper look at this thing and kind of lay out
Some concept of a plan and I yeah an idea for a plan at the very least
Yeah, like at and then it would be kind of fun
If we put our plan on like, you know a big poster board or something like that
Or we made like kind of a task list of everything that we wanted to do
And then kind of draw a few things out and then at the very end we pull the poster board back out
We pull out our cardboard list and we go, okay How close did we get?
I'm really looking forward to it And I think we're going to take a bit of a different approach to the smart home stuff compared to what we did at my house
Where it's very DIY Whereas I could see us
Finding a decent ecosystem that isn't too overpriced
And locking into an ecosystem for something that we actually intend for someone else to use
As long as that ecosystem allows local control
That will always be that will always be a red line
Always like you don't like that
Cool. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no
Okay, let's go gambling What?
Let's go gambling. Let's go gambling. What are you guys talking about?
Let's go gambling as video content creators. How long did it take for
Y'all to get used to your faces being on camera? I said, let's go gambling. I don't know
Oh There's been some discussion on the subreddit and other various places
About the current promo that we're running. So why don't I just interrupt and talk about the promo that's running on lttstore.com
We are kicking off november with a holiday loot drop. That's right, my friends
Spend $100 or more on lttstore.com and you will have about a one in 10 chance to win a prize until november 26th
That is an estimate We do not know for sure because we don't know exactly how many people will enter
But it is an estimate you can win either a pair of sennheiser hd
550 headphones like the ones that i am wearing right now or if you're really lucky
You'll win an ASUS rog xbox ally. That says ally, but this one is black. Is it the ally or the ally x?
Somebody please hit me with the answer I'm pretty sure it's aliex. It's the x. It's the black one the performant one cool
That is pretty solid odds for buying stuff that you might have been thinking of picking up anyway
Like the glitch desk pad which is now available on the us site
um It's also a great excuse to talk yourself into
The vanity that's right. It's when v3. It's back and redder than ever in true
When show colors as voted by you you may not remember this
But we actually put this to a community vote
Ages ago asking Do you guys want another black and orange hoodie like our previous wan hoodies in the past?
Or do you want us for once?
To make a WAN Show garment that is actually in the correct color scheme for the WAN Show
The WAN Show has always been red
It was never actually orange
We just put LTT colors on this on the on the hoodie despite it being
WAN Show which is which is a different color scheme the community over
Okay, see this is funny. This is funny breakdown 1923 says that isn't red though
Okay, here's the thing our person fun our perception of color
is Affected by all the other colors and stimuli around us to the point where this is really funny
Back before we had, you know, like real graphic design people and stuff
We used to have I think the tech was red. Luke. Is that right?
Uh Whoa That sounds right the point is the point is
Even though LTT actually has orange as its
As its pop color We had to make it red on here if I recall correctly because otherwise
It didn't look orange orange looked yellow or something like there was a whole issue around the logo that was off
It's been a long time since this was an issue But the yeah the the LTT colors on the forum
Had to be wrong in order for people to think that they were right
Yeah, um because they looked and like this this this was not
One or two people this was effectively everybody They looked super wrong just due to the other colors that were around them and we had to do something about it
I think that might still be a thing. I think the logo
I wonder if you like, um If you snipping tool
The logo on the forum and go into like paint or something and eyedropper the color and then
Paint it a bunch. Is it actually our orange? I can't remember. I'm sorry. Well, you want to do it right now?
Not really. Show your screen. It's not that interesting Sounds good, but at some point it was like that where it was like it was like red
And then ed was working on Some other asset and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why is everything red?
And he's like, oh, I just eyedroppered like the forum banner header and that was when the investigation started
And I was like, what the heck is going on here because our our accent color is orange
Anyway, the eye is down in the corner right now. Like it's clearly red
Okay, very funny. Dan put it back. I'm trying to make it orange
Fine fine. No fun allowed. Why don't you?
messing with everybody Okay, there's also a ton of other cool upgrades
Yes, there are slightly fewer pockets actually, but the pocket placement is much more intentional and streamlined
for example, instead of having two kanga pockets and accidentally sticking your hand in
The other one we just made it one and we changed how the zipper is embedded to reduce any chance of the adhesive pulling off
We also added a zippered chest pocket. Where you at? There you are right there
Zipper chest pocket. We switched the sides of the ARM pocket to make it easier to use for
Sorry, right-handed people. Sorry lefties. Sorry the south south pause to make it easier on right-handed people who are the majority
I'm sorry. Um, and we made the back pocket back here
Even bigger. We also changed up the fabric. It's a heavier weight cotton terry feels more premium
It's also a little bit warmer and we improved the hood It's now a three panel design that just sits a little bit better on your head. We also made it a little bit more fun
We made the draw cord tips Hexagons because they're the bestagons and the eyelids are shaped like a bestagon as well
And obviously it's red and gray voted by you. We even did a newsletter blog post on it
Make sure you subscribe by the way to the LTT Store newsletter
Yeah, the old one really was quite uh, quite orange. Oh, oh, this is like the og og one
And then there was this one And then oh wait, did I call it? Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. So yeah reimagining the wan hoodie
the original launched all the way back in 2016 and that was basically just because I had this
NVIDIA hoodie that I really liked from g8 brands and I was like, okay, I just want that but like instead of black and green
I just want it orange and
Then we did wan hoodie v2
Which was even cooler Then was this v3?
That doesn't look No, that's still v2 right to me. Yeah, we only ever did. Yeah, here we go. And so this
Finally is v3 man. It's a really nice garment. So there's the uh, there's the hexagonal
Draw cords. Here's the here's the original pole. So we pulled you guys you decided
You wanted accurate WAN Show colors rather than og wan v1 with LTT orange accent
And look how good it looks Yeah, is that awesome or what? Yeah, okay
Uh, what was I supposed to be doing? Oh, yeah, let's go gambling right so there's been some discussion that the promo that we're running right now is gambling
The promo that we are running right now is not gambling the promo we're running right now is a sweepstakes
And it's a perfectly normal thing for a retailer to do and it's it's it's also not a
Gambling disguised as sweepstakes. It's just actually a sweepstakes
um As is required by law
It is open to people who do not place a purchase. Here's all the instructions and everything like that
But no, it's a sweepstakes. You make an order for the amount you are entered to win a sweepstakes
And that's a perfectly reasonable thing. It's not gambling because what you're doing is you are buying a product
And you are going to get the product. There is no outcome where you just lose all your money
It is not gambling Y'all need to relax
We we are still anti gambling
Uh hamnetx says please make the mandatory sweepstakes skill testing question answer luv
Question what is the basword? I love it. Uh, okay. What was the rest of this merch message? Let's go gambling as
video content creators How long did it take for y'all to get used to your faces being on camera?
And how did you figure out what to do with your face when you're not talking?
Oh, my understanding is you mouth along with the prompter
Thank you for that down. That's very helpful. I'm trying really hard not to do it
I couldn't imagine it's difficult
Thanks for that. Um, I just he just has to be he has to be the one talking
So even when he can't be the one talking, oh, and it's in the wrong spot as close as possible. It's in the wrong spot
You got to move it back. You got to move it back
It's in the wrong thing. There we go. Nice. Nice solid. Um
Man, it took me a really long time like I
Never had really had to edit my own videos. So I I didn't really get used to that. I never watched them because I
like filmed them and um, I didn't have time to do any kind of qa in the earlier days, which sometimes
Caused problems as you guys probably well know
um What I think I've only really gotten used to it over the last few years when I've
Watched a lot more of our videos for qa Um beyond that like I and even now like when show in particular when Yvonne puts on when show next to me
I'm like bro turn that off Like I can't I can't listen to my voice for an extended period of time like that
especially at like 2x Like oh man, I don't know how she doesn't I'm like, I'm right here if you want to talk to me
I'm right here. She's like, yeah, but I'm trying to like catch up on what you were talking about before. I'm like
Just ask me. I'll be I'll happily talk to you rather than listen to me talk to you
please How about you?
Uh Was it was the core of the question like what is it like seeing yourself on camera? I don't care
I don't get juiced up by it. I it also doesn't affect me like I remember when I first started i'm talking like
What whatever I don't even know what year was at this point Uh, whatever line is when I first started working together. I remember him commenting that like
Hearing himself is very odd. I think I was editing a video and I had it on speakers or something and he was like
Like listen with headphones like I don't want to hear myself and I was like what
Like why why do you care? Like it never mattered to me at all
And then I I was actually like somewhat surprised when later on I figured out that that's like a thing for a lot of people
And I was the weird one Yeah, you're the freak got him. I guess it just it it has never bothered me. I it also like
I don't know. It's just he just likes the sound of his own voice. He just likes the sound of his own voice
No, no, it's in the wrong spot again. It's also thank you. Thank you. Oh, he's
He saw you reach for it. I saw you reach for it
Nice
Should get one for den nice assist
Because that was a nice assist
dopamine
Um All right, what are we supposed to be doing right now? Are you more topic? Yeah, let's do some more topics
What do you want to talk? What do you want to talk about luke? What are we going on over here?
I don't know. It was a heck of a week for youtube. We could talk about that
YouTube appeared to be ramping up its focus on paid memberships this week after several users on the LTT subreddit
Reported that they when they clicked on a video they were met with pop-up ads for the feature that had to be closed
Before playback could begin that's Very annoying, especially because we disabled it at significant cost to us. Oh, this is interesting
I'm so sorry. I'm about to derail us. Look at that. Cool. I'm so surprised
I was I was I didn't think it would be a ton
But I didn't think it would be zero Disabling youtube memberships caused literally
zero of our old members to migrate over to Floatplane
And we we had a theory back back when we enabled youtube memberships in the first place
It was our strong belief that it would probably be mostly incremental
The people that we're going to subscribe on Floatplane were we're going to do that
And the people that we're going to do it on youtube were only interested in using a payment method
They already have with a platform. They already use and
I was uh I wasn't surprised that you know, we didn't just migrate everybody over from youtube memberships to Floatplane
I was surprised that it appears to have been Literally zero. Um, so yeah, that was uh
That was a downer It had been communicated for a long time that like the better experience was on Floatplane
Like the the the advertising was pretty in your face about that. So I think most people that
Would have moved over had moved over
Yeah, I mean I had a conversation with with some creators today
talking about They were asking the question of like if we had an external platform
Should we turn on youtube monetization? And I I lamented about how annoying it is having the youtube
Not youtube monetization. Sorry youtube memberships Yeah, I lamented about how annoying it was to have the memberships thing shoved in your face all the time
But I was like if you don't care about that then theoretically yes
Because there is a relatively large amount of people that just will
Not leave the primary platform whether that primary platform is youtube or twitch or cake or whatever their thing is that they're watching content on
There will be nothing that will get them off of that platform. Most people that use the internet
Use like a very small amount of websites and do not go out of that circle
Yeah, you've talked about that before it's kind of wild, but it's so true
Yeah, like I I mean not gonna lie my my safari right now
has let's see five tabs
And those five tabs are probably most of what I look at on a on a typical day
yep Got LTT Store LTT forum LTT subreddit
LTT Store analytics
And i'm tracking gold pricing
And even and normally it would be down to four
Are you doing the tracking of gold pricing on?
um Like a google thing. Nope gold price dot org. Oh, okay. Yeah
Um Hold on where where were we at? Oh, yeah, right. So yeah, so that and so for me
It was just a little bit Frustrating to have people upset at us again
about this memberships thing when we actually took a very
Measurable financial hit to have youtube stop harassing our viewers about memberships
so for them to have a bug that went and like
Like put LTT memberships in people's faces again when we already had turned them off and it wasn't even an option to subscribe to them
Really sucked. It was like it was the insult to injury that I was not into
Not into it's kind of funny
Yeah, I mean it's a little bit funny. Maybe we do we have it's a it's a little funny
We had thousands of youtube members. It was like tens of thousands of dollars of revenue a year luke
I don't I don't think that part's funny. I just think right well then tell me the funny part luke
I think it's funny that you turned it off and then it got shoved in your face anyways
I think that's funny. I can appreciate the irony, but that doesn't mean I have to agree that it's funny
I can appreciate an unpleasant irony
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe I'll laugh about it soon Maybe I'll laugh about it once youtube fixes the memberships feature and makes it so I can control the promotion
And we can turn it back on and we can build it back up. Maybe then I'll think it's funny
Do you think that's coming? I don't know I
Look if I thought that it was coming on it on the near horizon
It would just let I wouldn't have turned it off. Mm-hmm
It's convincing people to resubscribe will take time. Oh, dude. It'll take freaking forever
like that That's just yeah, that's just like
Gone forever now. So very frustrating
Yeah, I'm area agreed. It would be super. How many other people
Turned it off. I I know of like one other creator like it was was it just us and them and that's it. Yeah, I think so
Because at a certain point like are we even helping?
I don't know luke sometimes it's not a matter of helping or not helping. I think it's just
Principles well, I don't even think I'm not even gonna. I'm not even gonna say that this is like a principled stand or anything
What it is is it's just simple our audience really didn't like it
And at the end of the day, I mean you've been there in the in the recent meetings that we've had sort of talking about our
Our company core values, right and one of our core values is the audience is our guide
And so how do we how do we live our core values?
How do we say with a straight face that we live our core values if we
Take a bunch of feedback that is showing up in our inboxes. It's showing up on the forum
It's showing up on the subreddit It's showing up in the youtube comments that people are saying hey
I really don't like the way this membership's feature is getting crammed down my throat
So how do we say that the audience is our guide if we ignore feedback like that we can't
Yeah And that ties into like uh one kind of ties into one of our one of our other ones
The listen before you lead is another one of our I don't know if that's I don't know if that's entirely fair all the time though because
if you Blindly listen to the audience at every single point regardless of cost
Then you wouldn't have ads on anything. But that's why it's guides because they love those. That's why it's guide
But yeah, but that's what I'm saying is like it with with some users complaining that doesn't mean that you just have to do it
Well, the but it wasn't just some users It was a lot and and I agreed. That's that's that's a huge thing, right? There you go
You gotta you gotta apply a filter. I agree. It's annoying and we had people
I'm not I'm not talking about this specific case. I'm not saying like we should turn it back on
I'm just saying and I'm speaking generally
We have to try to put ourselves sparked by this game We've got to try to put ourselves in the position of a viewer and kind of go okay
Yeah, like do I have any intention of subscribing to this? Okay, then why is it cluttering up my interface?
It was really annoying for me. I know like I I am a premium subscriber to youtube
LTT funny enough gets a decent amount of money from me
From my premium. I it was everywhere. It was it was honestly very annoying
At the very least like let premium people be like, you know, I don't want to see this
Yeah, well and that was part of the literally ads all over my screen when I pay to not see ads all over my screen
And that was part of the feedback I gave to youtube as well as I don't think premium
I don't think premium members or not members. Excuse me premium subscribers should be seeing this. I don't yeah
I don't think it's necessary and And at the very least
Give me the creator Control over that like if I want to spam people who have premium by telling them about, you know
YouTube memberships or whatever then that's that that's
That's on me at that point then if I alienate the audience
But don't do that on my behalf
Then I have no control over you harassing
The audience to buy something on my behalf. I don't like that
so So, I mean and we we had an earlier version of our of our of our
What are they called again core? Corpillars core
That's the thing the font Core values core values. Thank you. Thank you. We had an earlier version of our core values
That was the audience is the boss And we got some pushback internally when we did like focus groups and stuff
And that was my that was my wording was the audience is the boss and I think
I think where we got a bit of a disconnect internally between some people and sort of my interpretation of that is I always took
My boss's instructions as sort of guidelines I was I was not a very good employee in the sense that I just did exactly what I was told and followed orders
Like I always kind of I've talked about the story of uh, how we you know, LTT
Our ncix tech tips started in the first place. It was only when he asked me the second or third time
I can't remember exactly how many times it was But the first time he asked me to start a youtube channel
I ignored him because a lot of the time he would give me
Waste of time busy work that wasn't necessary And if I just didn't do it and I did stuff that added more value to the company
Then I'd get promotions faster and I'd get paid more so I would just ignore stupid assignments
So it wasn't until he gave me this stupid assignment multiple times that I kind of went. Okay, fine. I'll do it
Um, but that was always my approach. So to me audiences the boss meant
That it gives me instructions and that I rely upon it for the gainful employment that I enjoy
But just because it tells me something doesn't mean that I absolutely do that. It means I have to apply a common sense filter
But I've always been a little stubborn bullheaded
Uh, whatever let's let's not get into the words to describe Linus right now. It's not necessary
um Sure, and I can see how that word could be
Really intimidating Or could could put other people in an uncomfortable place, especially when the audience is this
nebulous Faceted entity that out of one side of its mouth right because it's made up of many people
Can be telling you this is the greatest video I've ever seen and then out of the other side of its mouth at the exact same time
You have two comments one after the other. This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. This is trash. You should probably retire
Right. How do you deal with that? I can't believe new new LTT is like this
They've lost the old ways and then another comment saying I've been waiting so long for an old
uh video like this
Yeah, and like and yeah, oh, I think a great example of this is stuff like the craigslist
Video wall right or that that $30,000 cooler that uh, charles fugger
brought up here is like Right back to back. You'll it's very polarizing right you'll have people saying like this is classic LTT
I love it. They're goofing around with like cool stuff that nobody else would get a chance to get their hands on and we can enjoy it
Vicariously through them and then the next one it'll be oh look it's millionaire line is showing off his rich kid toys again
Where's their more down-to-earth content and it's like
How do I how do I build a content plan around that right and so I can understand why internally
People were looking at it going like okay boss feels like a really strong word and I wouldn't want a boss like that
So after much deliberation we settled on guide, you know more like a lighthouse
It's it's a point that we can use for navigation
But if we go right toward it, we're gonna end up in the rocks. You know what I mean?
Enigma blade says I'm a lighthouse. Thank you enigma blade and flow plane chat appreciate you
Um, what are we supposed to be talking about right now? Oh, yeah, right?
You were in the middle of it's been a heck of a week for youtube and I totally went off on a long side quest
Yeah, I have no idea how far I got into it. Uh, I think one line
Probably I'm just gonna redo it because I think that was genuinely like 20 minutes
YouTube appeared to be ramping up its focus on paid memberships this week after several users on the LTT subreddit reported
That when they clicked a video they were met with pop-up ads for the feature that had to be closed before playback could begin
Which is like obviously incredibly annoying LTT writers reached out to youtube and they told us it was a bug
Which okay, doesn't seem way too bad then I guess an annoying bug, but hopefully that doesn't keep going
YouTuber enderman had his entire channel terminated after the platform mistakenly connected him to a different channel
That had received three copyright strikes enderman appealed the account termination and it was obvious that no human had actually reviewed it
Uh, which led to him tweeting about it Garnering attention and eventually getting the decision
reversed YouTube took down multiple videos by youtuber cyber CPU
Cyber CPU tech sorry, uh, that worked around Windows 11's installation restrictions
Initially youtube rejected his appeal claiming his content was in violation of its harmful or dangerous content policy
Since garnering a bunch of attention cyber CPU tech has had his videos restored and youtube denies that the removal had anything to do
with automation Okay, so then
Did they explain why a human moderator removed it?
probably not This is a question in an environment where ai is increasingly being used to moderate content
How do you think LMG's videos may need to change?
Well, I can tell you already. I don't go full karma get in when i'm playing cyberpunk on camera
Yeah, but that's more around their policies. We talked about it last week
But uh, I'm sure if that was on the show yeah mass violence against civilians is uh, no longer kosher NVIDIA games
um for youtube uploads So we're just so i'm just gonna i'm just gonna walk around pacifist style
and um Only pull a gun on the cops if they pull a gun on me that that's my line. That's my line in cyberpunk in cyberpunk
Um, this is really annoying in my craft
Okay, we often
Very often luke and I will kind of go off on like microsoft teams being kind of a steaming pile of
And we will get people just all the time baffled and confused in the comments
Like how could you ever say anything negative about my weird purple baby?
And this is the kind of thing that i'm talking about. Okay, so let's get on the
On the bug the bug where you schedule a message and it shows up as sent. Don't worry. I'm coming to schedule messages
Okay, so on my teams right now. I have the one and only
Sarah butt, okay I wanted to send her a message. Hold on
I wanted to send her a message Um that says lighthouse pin for audiences our guide. I really don't know how well this is gonna work. Um
Yeah, that's not whatever the point is I wanted to send her a message lighthouse pin audiences our guide
I'm right clicking on send Right because I would like to schedule the message because it's you know pretty late on a friday
I don't think she's in office right now and says you'll be able to schedule messages
Uh, yes, I've talked about this on my show before after you send your first message
That's what this error says You can clearly see last week when I sent her sir ability or I asked for ability
Oh, no, because I emailed her sir ability to can and she teams me back
Sir ability to can with his top hat and I was like oh and g chat loves it
We have clearly corresponded before
So in conclusion steams
I steams teams. Actually, I like that. Can we can we switch to just calling it steams in conclusion steams
I think it's too close to steam. So people won't like it. Oh, man
Irritating
Steaming pile, uh, so yeah, so now luke I'm going to send an email
And that will only make sense to the people
Who watched the pre-show? I don't like that and I'm right to do it
In this case you are but it's so annoying. It's like, okay, so that
It's funny that that bug exists because that shouldn't be a thing in the first place
You should absolutely be able to schedule messages to people in your own freaking or in your or haven't sent them a message before
We're talking within the same org
That's that's so crazy, man. Like it's so stupid
So I have I have literally sent emails before
Screenshotting that error and being like, this is stupid, but I wanted to schedule this message
So here's the message. Don't respond to this email. I never want to see this email again. Respond on teams, please
It's like, but come on
It's so annoying Oh, man
Oh lordy, all right, what are we supposed to be doing Dan? I can also I will I will also confirm in the past
I think I think I said that people from google told me that they use
Uh, whatever it's even called. I don't know
Uh, whatever their chat is
Hangouts I'm not sure on gmail chat. I don't I don't know. It's whatever that thing is called chat. Sure, whatever
I I've been told that they use that and I just didn't believe it because like I know people at
Microsoft that complain about teams and like kind of use slack on the side anyways. Yeah
And I can confirm that at least
Everyone that I saw which was multiple people
were using Meet or chat or whatever the heck it's called. They were using it. So
All right As of right now Sounds like they're actually doing it which is interesting to me because it sure felt like they were abandoning it
Really not that long ago, but
It is what it is
Depends on teams github is still on slack. Yeah, that's really interesting
I wonder if that's just because them migrating off of like because that was an acquired
Company, right? So if if if migrating them off of slack would be a huge issue
Something that I would really like to accomplish this coming year
Is to simplify our setup because we right now we have slack for Floatplane. We have teams for everything else
And we have not just teams, but we have office 365
And we have g suite for everybody and it ends up being really expensive
Meet is so far behind teams. What I don't agree
Oh, oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. No, I do agree. I thought you were talking about just the call
Why are they both called meat?
The just the video call of meat is like really good
I hate that it's the same name for the chat. Whatever. Anyway, sorry about that
But yeah, so we use just all of them internally And I've been kind of poking around lately trying to figure out like
How much of a pain it would be for different teams to lose one or the other?
Like if we lost g suite or if we lost office 365 because do our subscriptions
Oh, it's so expensive. Okay. We're Okay, spoiler. I'm gonna spoil something. We're finally doing it. We're finally working on how does LMG spend money?
Because you guys have asked us that Every time we do how does LMG make money? You guys are like, okay neat
but We've got where does it come from, but we don't know where does it go?
Sorry, that was really awful How do you spend it? And so it's finally coming. We're gonna do a breakdown and
While the percentage going to subscriptions is probably not gonna look that bad
The the the total amount is high the sheer dollars
Yeah, yes, it's it's too much. We gotta we gotta crunch that down. Um
I feel a little bit vindicated about this I think it's gonna be harder to get off of g suite than it will to be get off to get off of office office 365
Although part of that reasoning um
So basically there's just a few teams that I've talked to and they're like dude if I lose drive
My life is over. Um And I I really don't think
One drive and share Share
Point is that the whatever? I really don't think those are like a suitable replacement for
Drive, I have to confess. I haven't played around with one drive that much recently
But the way that drives user interface has degraded over the years
Maybe it's not that far off anymore. This is a huge part of my point. Yeah, I mean, is it time for us to consider like, um
Oh, what's their nuts? Um They always they always send me emails
What one of my issues is There there doesn't really seem like there's actually a whole solution for everything. Um, like I know, um
Again that company that asked about the passwords. I'm still not gonna disclose who it was
I asked them what they use and they were like, oh, yeah I mean we use g suite slack and and uh office 365 and I was like, oh, okay
Oh, yeah, it seems like we're not the only one stuck in this. Oh, yeah next cloud next cloud. That's the one
Thank you monster and Floatplane chat. I mean, is it time to explore that?
You want to move email
Not really. No, I don't want all of our drives. No, I don't want to
Ah, it just looks like so much work
Dude migrating migrating, uh a g suite drive
To a g suite drive Is a nightmare
Let alone anywhere else Um, but but then you run into other issues where like, you know next cloud or g suite or whatever
None of them are going to do this Microsoft ad is just fantastic for a bunch of different things
And then to authenticate with that properly, Dan, you can correct me here. Don't you need
Uh Some license from microsoft. Oh you need so many licenses
Yeah, so like you just kind of get stuck with like everything. Yeah, and the alternative is you can cancel a subscription
But then you're like actually going to lower your productivity of all your users and not just that
But you're going to lower their morale conrads in the full plane chat right now saying no, let me have my google drive
It's so painless. And you know what? I experienced the exact same thing at ncix
Because we had our own internal email
And then we switched to gmail
And it was a time of gloriousness because that was back when gmail was really good and the search was really good
And then we migrated back to our internal email with just like a re skin to make it look more like gmail
And there were riots in the streets And I was I was one of them. I was on the leadership team, but I had nothing to do with this decision
And I was like, I freaking hate this I am worth the seven dollars a month or whatever it was back then to have proper working even
It's not seven dollars a month anymore. Well, I know
And one thing that really okay, so I had basically just
Resigned to like, I mean, okay, so urban fervor and chat is saying this is so ironic
Our company is in the middle of migrating from g suite office 365 and it has not been going well
Some other people are posting similar things guys next cloud. I actually think is super cool, but migrating to them is
It's not like, you know, the problem is migrating stuff is insane
And there are certain features that are difficult to replace once we're already in this spot. Anyways, I'm not next cloud is great
I'm not talking bad against next cloud Um, but
Yeah, we just we just get entrenched. There's there's too many things that are too good that they're worth paying for it
Anyways, even though we're not using most of their offerings
And I had previously resigned to like whatever it's worth it per employee
We're just not going to talk about this anymore. But it's so much now
And then g suite I I had like fought with someone over there for a while being like I do not want your ai features
I don't care how much you discount it. I like I don't want this. We're not taking it. We're not paying for ai features
Go away. Um, and I finally got through to them
So we didn't subscribe to their ai features and then now
You just have to
It's just bundled in have fun And it's like man, I
I don't want this. Um So then I was like, hey, well now it's like really expensive per user
Yeah, it would be really nice to lower this cost for the company
Let's evaluate it again and we look into it and we just come back to the same conclusion again
It's almost like they're charging this much because they know they've got you by the yep
Nostrils Yeah, sure. We'll go with that one
Um, but it's it's frustrating man. I wish I wish
Microsoft does everything, but they don't seem to do almost any of it all that well
Google doesn't do enough of things
and They do a few things like really well and they do other things like
Really poorly if we had just never migrated to teams
Yes, like I think we probably would have just still been using chat and it probably would have been fine
Because the nice thing about it was you only had one search window
That's the killer for me is that I have to the more applications we use
The more search fields I have to type something into to figure out. Yeah, where did we talk about that?
Was it on email? Was it posted on air table? Was it posted in teams? Was it
What are you freaking in a google doc? Like when you're searching for something
Like if I'm because like the way that my memory works a lot of the time
It's like cues like I I don't remember what someone said in the email, but I know we were talking about
Yeti's You know or whatever. So I'll be like, okay. Yeah, I remember I remember the word yeti was in there
So I searched my email for like yeti because I'm trying to remember or like some product, you know
Gigabyte motherboard like oh no, that's no it's not there. Maybe maybe it was in teams. So I throw it into my team's search
No, it wasn't there either like okay. Maybe it was on an air table to a card or something
So I searched for it on air table It's like this tedious process of going and trying to find something because you know around here
We have a hundred projects going at any given time. Yeah, I can't be expected to remember
Everything about every single one of them from start to completion So so a lot so you just you waste these cycles going back and trying to re-reference materials
And if you don't know where to find them it can be really frustrating and back when we were on hangouts in gmail
You would just there was one search bar and it would search both of them at the same time and it was really convenient
um But the more services that we've integrated and I understand there's reasons that we've done it like when we added trello
For instance the more places there have been to go find the single source of truth and air table has been a help there
but it's Still not a perfect silver bullet because it is still separate and we'll we'll keep making it better
But it will still never be perfect. Yeah, and none and none of these things will be perfect
But I really don't like the fragmentation that we have. I also really don't like that like
No matter what we like say
These programs are very invasive So like even if we say like hey, I know we have
Office 365 we don't use their email. We don't use their calendar. We don't use one drive
We don't use all these things to please keep it in google Um, we can say that but if you work in word or whatever
It's going to try to prompt you to save it into one drive And then people just start doing it automatically because they don't necessarily know the difference because they're they might not be tech savvy
Or or whatever or that's just what they use in the previous company. So they don't even think about it
It doesn't really register that they might be doing it the wrong way uh, it's uh
It's a mess man. It's very frustrating. Hamnetx in Floatplane chat says hey, maybe check out x1 search
It provides a unified search across microsoft teams outlook share point one drive gmail google drive and slack
Wow, so cool. Why don't I get another go RAM?
Subscription no, I don't want that
What is it called? What is this x1.com?
What an expensive that does legitimately sound very cool, but like
Ah No
Oh Yeah
Cool Hey, oh wait. No never mind. I'm not going to say that is this per user
I couldn't tell I was afraid to I was afraid to even ask
I don't want to know. I don't know if it is
And wouldn't they get access to literally all of your everything? I mean it kind of seems that way this thing this thing's
They should pay us
That's actually how much they pay you per user to be clear. You're not saying they're not trustworthy bros
No, we just don't know that they are that's all that's all we're saying all we're saying
Oh So, yeah, I don't know maybe just how about this
Everyone watching right now. How many of you are there?
So probably somewhere in the neighborhood of around 10,000. Okay, everyone watching right now go buy a wan hoodie
And then I won't have to think about the subscription costs ever again
It won't matter deal
Yeah, I just I wish I wish like it's it's a constant extremely sharp thorn in my side. It bothers me all the time
Speaking of merge messages Dan should we do a couple or what are we supposed to be doing right? Oh my god?
We haven't done sponsor spots. Uh, we're gonna do the Floatplane announce and then a sponsor spot. Uh, sure
Uh, oh Oh, that's the Floatplane topic not to be confused with the Floatplane announcements
Yes, sammy. I will read them before sponsors. We've got three
Juicy and unique offerings for you on Floatplane. We won
We have an LTT video that is ready right now in early access
The liquid metal in my laptop leaked and my mission
Is to try to fix it and you can check that out over on the Floatplane
It Was a very frustrating experience. Oh, I don't see it. Am I supposed to publish it or is what are you looking for?
I'm looking for is it under Floatplane exclusives for now?
No, it's not Okay, i'm what are you looking for that video the i my laptop leaked liquid metal video
Oh, i'm supposed to show it in the cms. Talk about the video if you want. We also have auto captioning on Floatplane now
Even for LTT videos. Okay. Yes. So i'm supposed to go into the cms. Am I supposed to go into the cms on camera?
Nope, are you sure? Because sammy told me to do it. He's gonna do it luke. You've done it before
Uh, but the answer is still no i'm not i'm not saying what you're going to do
I'm just saying what you're supposed to do. I see
Got it. Okay, release status public. There it is
Uh Very much very much a downer and very much now live on Floatplane. There you have it
Cool. Good chat. Number two for halloween
Three staff members dressed up as yours truly as you might have seen in last week's when intro and on our socials
Oh, we did a video of the entire process from makeup to clothing to my first reaction to it. Yeah, they completely
Blindsided me with this open link show the stuff. Okay. Yes, sir sammy. I will follow instructions. There you go. This was
They um They really were trying to get me cancelled. I think with all of this. I think it was sammy. He goes so i'm asian Linus
This is female Linus What's this?
Oh, i'm just like buddy talented Linus. Yeah, don't even
Do why?
Um, I don't remember what I said, but i'm pretty sure i'm not cancelled. Um, nice finally
Uh, we're doing a luke laffreniere q&a for our Floatplane exclusive and we want your questions
I'm supposed to open the link and showcase some of the questions
Tell us the head dents story again. I forgot it
Oh, yeah, I mean that's the thing about people with a dent in their head is they might forget the story too
Anyway, the point is go and submit your questions for the luke q&a video
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All right All right, Dan Dan luke
Which one pick one. Okay. I really don't know what's going on
Really have not slept well this week. I've been traveling a lot
I mean, I shouldn't be complaining to you, but
I think I think I can say that I've been traveling a lot
When traveling tend to be easier than yours
It has been a very very intense period
I I I I I can't tell you all of the videos that I have written in the last little while but in the last three weeks
I think I've probably written more LTT's like start to finish written
I am heavily involved in the editing of the scripts for a lot of stuff, but
Start to finish written more LTT's in the last three weeks than I had probably done in the prior
Six to nine months combined like it's been very very intense. I've been really enjoying it actually
It's been fun Especially because some of it's been really cool like some of these factory tours and stuff when I was overseas
But it has been Extremely intense because the rest of my work doesn't go away just because I'm writing
Wish it did that'd be cool That's my biggest problem with traveling is effectively the same thing
It's like I I think my tasks when I'm traveling tend to be easier than yours, but I'm also
stuck for Many hours of the day like today. I woke up at I think seven
and Didn't do anything other than work and you know, it's 8 8 40 now
That's decently common on trips because if I wasn't here I would have been
At the the thing that was the following to the event that I was just at
So I just I don't have time to do a lot of stuff but
Work keeps moving. Yeah, so messages keep coming in. So it's it's it's tough to keep up planes can be good
But my my last tin can flight. There was no in-flight Wi-Fi. So
I Literally I finished reading salt sugar fat, which was that book that Wendell recommended to me about
I think it's called salt sugar fat how the food industry hooked us or something like that
And it's really good. It's a little dry at times, but hey, maybe if they put a little more fat on it
Then it would go down a little easier So yeah, it's a little little dry, but really enlightening super cool book
So I finished that because because I was I was just like sitting on the plane going like
Oh my god, I have nothing to do and there's a computer under the seat in front of me like just
It wasn't a super long flight, but I was like I am so bored. I no longer know how to just sit and be
Oh, right. I have salt sugar fat on my Kindle. I still have like
A quarter of the book left. So I read five percent of it and realized that the last 20 percent of the book was actually
What what's it called? Appendices, yeah
So so I finished the book in like 20 minutes and I was like, ah crap. I'm actually done now
And so I was sitting there. I was like
All right
So I bought this And I actually hooked it in my backpack
Before my trip thinking. Oh, yeah, maybe I'll read read something on paper
It's just for fun the story of an accidental revolutionary It's uh Linus torvold's autobiography and I wanted to read it as homework before we do the collab with him
And so I I got through about a quarter of it on the rest of my flight
And then I actually realized today that we have a date for when he's going to be coming in and I I
Yeah, we sure do gonna get this read. I am
so Flipping excited and you're probably wondering. Hey Linus. You bought salt sugar fat on kindle
Um, what's the deal with that? Why would you buy a physical book?
Cuz I'm gonna get him to sign it I'm so excited
Did you know I'm not there? Uh, yeah, but we're not talking about the date
Okay, I I did not know that until you told me that just now and I'm super sorry for you
I'm actually legitimately like extremely sorry for you because dude. I was so sad. I
I I've legitimately kind of considered looking into like can I find a way to be there?
Um, I I can't give more context other than that because we're not giving the date obviously, but yeah
I don't think I can But I am I am a sad boy. This was like probably the one time
but you know Maybe you go super well and we want to work together again. I don't we'll see. Um, I'm sorry, dude
I'm I'm legitimately very sorry about that. You just you just have to do a good enough job that it happens again
I'll do my best nasa moda asks. Are you nervous Linus? Um, like yes
I because because I've I've only met the guy briefly on on a call. He was super nice. Um,
Like unbelievably nice the fact that he's coming here
blows my mind Like it's one of those things where it's like it's um
Oh man, how do I put this there's like there's kind of unspoken
sort of Not rules, but just like unspoken understandings and collabs
Like like one party, you know
Like like you can have one party. That's like clearly
benefiting the other party like You know lifting them up and then you had or you could have like a collaboration between peers
Or you could be the party that you know really probably needs to kind of
Put in the extra work like it's um
Like if I'm like if I was if I was collaborating with um, you know, let's let's use an example man who's
How horrible is it that I'm trying to think of a non-controversial large youtuber and I can't
What does that say about our space?
Okay Uh
Pewdiepie hasn't done anything recently. All right
You're calling statute of limitations on the bridge Um
Okay, we got some suggestions we've got some suggestions uh markiplier markiplier's one suggestion hank green
Or course pretty base hank green's pretty base. That's pretty good suggestion did matt pat retired with nothing right?
He retired but but his channels are still going. Okay. Let's use matt pat. Let's use matt pat
Okay, the theorists are clean as far as when I say so matt pat matt pat really cool people matt pat or hank green invites me to do
Uh a collab I am the sub in this relationship. I travel to them. I don't even ask right standard
Like I don't I don't ask I don't ask are you are you know?
Can you fly to me for us to do this collab now? There could be a reason that they have to come here like if we're if we're building a fancy pc and we're gonna paint it
And we need our workshop and stuff there could be a reason for that But if the idea is just that we're going to be talking heads and we're going to get yack at each other
I just assume that i'm going to them and in the same way that a much smaller creator would probably assume
That they're coming to me with Linus. It was the same way
I assumed that I am packing up the show. I'm packing up all the parts. We're bringing it to
I don't know his house We find a studio space that we can rent
We are moving heaven and earth to make this thing happen because
I am just grateful that he replied to a freaking email
Let alone that he has graciously offered us like half a day to a day of his time to to to collaborate together
Like it's so exciting and then he just casually drops. Oh, no, I think I could just come to you
Yeah, you know, I travel a lot for work and it's no biggie. I can just hop up there and I'm like
How can you be this cool?
It will like it it You almost like don't even want to accept it, but it will be a lot easier to do a collab here
I know I know, but I had it's just so cool though
Remember that story. I I'm gonna be vague only because
Uh, I don't know if you you mentioned you might want to save it for content or something
But remember that story I told you about fixing a computer recently one a computer that you knew about
Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, you can just tell the story. Um
We could still be content. I don't know The the computer Linus's team
in scrapper war season four
Had a motherboard that they had to repair and they repaired it in like
This really weird way, but it worked and then afterwards
I don't remember if it was given away to christmas party or I bought it
Or it was just effectively tossed out. I don't remember what the situation might have just been tossed
But I ended up with it and I gave it to my brother
And it just kept working Forever which is crazy despite the craziest fix ever it just kept working and then
It got passed to A friend of ours and then it went from that friend of ours to
To their kid and their kid bought a new case for it
Which you know, whatever maybe do a different performance upgrade on a 2500k, but anyways that that's a topic for another time
And in the case swap They like removed the the wire that made the whole thing work
And it's crazy that he reached out to me to try to potentially fix it because like no the amount of people that would
Wait. Oh, yeah. No. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yeah, I thought you told the story differently to me, but no that yeah
I think that's right. So he he didn't like know
Oh that this mother board was like special He didn't know it came from me which really it came from you and really it was modded in in an episode of scrappard
Where it's like he didn't know all of that. Uh, so when he brought it over
We were able to like look at the episode of scrappard was and figure out what they did
And then I you know moved the little cable over and it started working which was fantastic
Um And and yeah, that was um
Why does this story matter? Oh, yeah, I when when we went to go fix a computer. I asked him to come to the office
Like we fixed it at the office because I was thinking in my head I was like, where am I going to have the most like
tools and potentially spare parts to like try if something is is wrong like, oh, okay
Maybe it's the GPU. Let's swap the GPU at whatever like where is going to be most convenient to do this?
And it was like, I don't know the it room at the office
And then we went there and it was just perfect. It was like, yeah, okay cool
So it is you know way more convenient for him to come here Everything is set up for what you guys are going to have to do
It also means we don't have to worry about any privacy stuff like at his house
The last thing I would want to do is like docks Linus torvolds
Or do like crazy blurring which ends up making the video hard to watch or whatever else like yeah
So it's it is sweet that he's coming over Um, it's just also surprisingly he said it's a really long story for that. But anyways, I think it's cool
I can't believe that computer still works It's crazy. I still don't understand why it works. I I wanted to do a collab with like build zoid or something
Where yeah, I want to try with him anyways, but yeah, we're just like can you please enlighten my stupid monkey brain?
As to why plugging in this fan header
Makes this busted motherboard work. So uh, pancrats plugging the fan. It's like bridging two different
So pancrats specific pin pancrats is in the flow plane chat saying because the part where we like fixed it
Is was cut from the episode by accident So the whole saga is something that nobody's ever actually seen
But as part of the compilation of the fourth scrapyard wars
Uh, pancrats has gone through the footage and he says it should be included in the compilation
So the like no way because I knew it was on camera. I knew
But remember I didn't I didn't review the videos before
I just like assumed the editors would get everything and that that's that's not always fair
But it wasn't it wasn't in the video And so there was just this weird like bridged wire and we were like talking about it in the conclusion
but yeah People never actually saw that wildness happen where I'm pretty sure there were like sparks
Like there was there was fire that motherboard was burned
And then I I only know that portion from hearing it from you because I I didn't see it
And and we scrubbed the video to try to find the wire which we could do but
It was it was hard to find like that point of the episode. We struggled to kind of fight it because it wasn't there footage isn't there. Yeah
Yeah, it's uh, what a thing So, yeah, I mean I'm stoked it exists and if we end up doing that that collab
I'm sure I can get the computer back at least at least temporarily
That'd be cool. That'd be fun Hey want some cool news?
Yes, SpaceX's cellular starlink now works on apple watches in canada and japan
I just think that's cool. That's all okay. Sweet. Yeah only text message sending and receiving via apple watch
Messages app is supported rogers in canada supporting it kddi in japan is supporting it on I think this is on three apple watch models
SpaceX's partner in the usa t-mobile could be next no confirmation at this time
But I just think I think that's a super cool feature especially in an emergency or whatever else. It's uh, it's uh
I don't know. I don't know if I want to say underrated feature of some of apple's hardware
But having something like that on your watch Seems even better than having it on your phone if you're ever in an emergency situation
Very cool. So that that was it. That was all I had to say about that
Okay Uh, what else do we have?
Oh, should we talk about the stop killing games petition getting debated in uk parliament?
Yeah The stop killing games campaign finally reached the floor of the uk parliament where members debated its petition urging publishers
To stop rendering games unplayable when companies choose to shut down their servers
Notably mp mark seward's Contended that companies might already be violating consumer production laws by failing to clearly disclose
How long players will have access to a game? Nice seward's also got in a sick burn by mentioning that
Uh, the dead game lawbreakers would probably have been popular amongst some of
games
Industry people helping thanks Linus there was a sentence fragment there
The government's but nobody understands what just happened other than you and me
The government's spokesperson Restated that there are no current intentions to amend the law
But emphasize that businesses must provide consumers with adequate information about their products
There is still optimism for the eu branch of stop killing games campaign
As it is in the process of preparing and waiting for eu politicians to debate its citizens initiative on the issue
This is pretty cool. I uh, I gotta admit. I really didn't have a lot of hope for it
But I certainly have a lot of um
agreement With the with the premise of hey, you know when you buy something you should yeah, and if this happens for games
I really think at that point where a stone's throw from
Software and then where a stone's throw from other media
And so hardware exactly this whole trend of like
You will buy things and then you don't own them and someone can just shut them down
It it needs to end and it's not going to end just by hoping that our corporate overlords are going to stop doing it
It's only going to end if it's legislated
so Not a lot to add here. Just wanted to let you guys know that all is not yet lost
um Mark ticked tex 69 and Floatplane chat says hey, have you seen the new red magic 11 with active water cooling?
No, but I greenlit today doing a sponsored video on it
So I will see it and I'm actually legitimately sponsorship aside full disclosure
But sponsorship aside it looks pretty cool. Do you want a spoiler?
Uh, yes It has a headphone jack. No. Oh
I'm and no hole punch in the screen. I am actually considering it because are you holding it? Nope. Oh
Sony no hole punch very very
uncommon There's like no phones that are not doing the hole punch under screen camera
uh headphone jack I'm thinking about it even though I don't gamer
On the phone. This is red magic 11 pros that we said. I think that's the one. Yeah, because no camera bump
It hasn't noticed. Oh my god. I'm on I'm on wired headphones right now. They have not lost their place in my heart
I like wired. Yeah, I still really like wired headphones. Yeah, I would love a phone
I've been planning on going Sony because Dan kind of talked me into it for for the next generation that I go to
If I upgrade this one, you can have my old one and then you won't have to buy anything
Oh look like to that that does itch my brain
So be careful. I will see I've been pondering it. I've been pondering it
Uh, dude, I've man the the whole hole punch thing
Like I kind of thought I was over it because I've been using the pixel 9a and I kind of mostly got over it
but I've been on the iphone air more recently and um
I uh I find oh Dan I've talked to I've talked to you about this and luke. I'm kind of doing a thing where I I'm like watching iconic movies
Okay, I'm finally making my way through like my movie backlog. So I finally watched all the president's men
Very different pacing compared to a more modern film. Have you seen it Dan? I don't think so. Oh, okay
Very different pacing. It's from 1976 or something like that. It's it's it's uh, it's no, I have not
It's so good. Um, it's on the watergate scandal
And that was the other thing that stood out to me is what qualified as
shocking scandalous behavior
back then that could like undo a presidency
Man, they ain't had seen nothing yet by that point. Anyway, the the point is not that
the point is that with the bigger face id
freaking camera bullet hole exit wound that apple has on their displays
Full screen content and it is still distracting
And I've even been using a phone that has a hole punch for quite a while now
Like can we can we just not? Can we not get over this?
Can we demand screens that don't have a flipping hole in them? It's hard. It's hard
And for a while people were trying to solve it like we had ones that had little mechanical flip up rear cameras
One plus had that one that retracted into the body
Uh, the under screen ones were a thing for a while But that's what the red magic has right people use their selfie cameras so much that I also can like kind of understand
But I mean sony just like because you've got the earpiece right at the top. Yeah, right? There's just a little tiny
Just a little tiny camera right there. It's fine. I don't know what's with the
I mean samsung did it on the note and I dude if samsung released the galaxy note 9
Evo I would be first in line to buy it
headphone jack sd card a sim slot e-sim so that gets you your two your two sims
No hole punch just like a skinny top bar and like man that form factor was so sleek
I pick it up every once in a while because it's the phone that I use for a line messenger because I just
Have never figured out how to migrate my line Messenger messages
So it's just the phone that I take with me to Taipei every time I go for all my badminton friends, but
So every once in a while I pick it up and I'm like damn
It still feels so good in the hand because even though it's not as thin as like an iphone air
It tapers at the edges so it like feels super thin freaking love it
I just like this one because it's a big phone, but it's a thin phone
So it's like having a small phone, but with more up and down, which is really nice
they are I don't know phones these days are just getting really wide
Dyslexic stoner says welcome back to another hour of three old men complaining about how good phones used to be
But they did I had that sexy lg1 with the power button right in the middle of the back
I can't remember what that was called Oh, I remember that that was so good. It was so good. There was one it was a merge message earlier
Uh, what phone would you keep in the samsung 8 edge?
I really liked oh, yeah a very long time. Oh, yeah, I had superman rom on that that was sick
den ricks and full-point shots at a lg g2 lg g2 was dope samsung s3 was dope
um the like original
Basically all of the nexus phones were sick
I loved samsung's active lineup. I was like the only
Person in the entire techosphere as far as I could tell who was like super into samsung's active phones
They were a galaxy s whatever, but just like
gigantic chungus battery And like rugged sounds awesome. They were freaking awesome, but not so thick
Like it was still thinner than having a case on your other phone
But you just didn't need a case and you had a bigger battery. I was like, this is brilliant. Why doesn't everybody just buy this?
Yeah, yeah Oh loved those
Um, all right, what are we what are we supposed to be talking about?
Oh, you want to do some more topics? Yeah, we can do that. Uh, there's no notes for this really
But just wanted to let you guys know microsoft fixes the update and shutdown bug that has plagued Windows for 10 years
um Whoop there it goes
So that's exciting It used to restart even though you told it update and shut down it would just restart and yeah
Yeah decade, but now now it's fixed. I think it's coming in the next in the next Windows update
Our discussion question is very annoying when it does that our discussion question is what's the next Windows bug that you want fixed?
Um, I think most of it's not bugs. I think most of it is entirely intentional from their team and makes
Windows incredibly insufferable to use. Okay. Well, david had one
He says i'm not sure if it's a bug, but it used to be like this in like xp or seven or something
I don't remember but right clicking a folder or item in an explorer window does not select the item
Even if it's highlighted So you have to left click the item to select it and then right click it to open properties etc
If you right click on another one that isn't selected it deselects the first one and opens the menu for the folder
This behavior does not happen in the left hand detail pane and works as expected
This kind of sounds like that issue that I have with macOS where if something is not the focus window
I can't interact with that. I have to click twice And it seems like david and I are the sorts of people that
And was for me actually. Oh that one was from you. Yeah. Oh, it was his topic. So I assumed it was you
Okay, that's a daniel beser contribution. I assumed that he typoed his own initials there. My bad. Oh good
Now david's a writer. He's uh, he's perfect. Also. I just noticed that your initials are a sad face
It tracks Oh my goodness
All right Microsoft says it doesn't have enough energy to power its current ai chips
GPU stock In an interview conducted alongside open ai's sam altman on the bg2 podcast
Microsoft CEO satan adela said the biggest issue the ai industry
has is not having Having is not a complete what okay
Is now having oh is the biggest issue the ai industry is now having is not a complete glut, but it's power
We may actually have a bunch of chips sitting in inventory that I can't plug in
In fact, that is my problem today. It is not a supply issue of chips
It is actually the fact that I don't have warm shells to plug into
I love that. We may have this issue. In fact, we do have this issue
I This comes after reports of consumer electricity bills increasing up to 36% in cost due to growing data center demands
Open ai is calling for the u.s. Government to build an additional 100 gigawatts of power generation annually
And at least four big ai tech companies are considering building or funding their own
nuclear power facilities Yeah, they're doing small ones though. They're they're using
Oh, there's little modular ones, right? Yeah, they're they're like inspired by submarine tech or something
I don't and they just expire. They just like expire when they're done, right?
Like you can't refuel them or something. I I don't know enough details about it. It was it's a while ago that I read about
I think I probably read like the same article you did like a while back like they're in containers or something like that
Yeah, so yeah, you just bring them in you plunk them down and then they just they consume all the fuel and when they're done
They're done. They're kind of like the alkaline battery of a data center kind of thing
um Modular reactors and shipping containers says yaxter
um Cato s is talking about molten salt. Oh, dude. Did you see the chinese shipping?
containers ship The the shipping container ship whatever container ship
The chinese container ship that uses a molten salt nuclear reactor
No, yeah, right Dude
My goodness damn china
Is that the new damn daniel? Damn china. Here we go. That's good. I think I first saw this on him again with a molten salt thorium reactor
Thorium reactors, dude Maybe they're not thorium. Yeah, uh china unveils power of thorium reactor for world's largest cargo ship. Look at this thing
Look at how many shipping containers that is
I want a thorium reactor just like personally. Yeah
They don't let you put an ac unit in your apartment. That may be a thorium reactor
Hey, they might they might not have rules against it. It's not in the rider
Where does it say that I can't take thorium reactors in my back in my back
Our discussion question It doesn't have batteries
So
Our discussion question is how much compute do you guys think is currently sitting idle due to a lack of power?
Okay, we have no way of knowing that because first There may be some sitting idle and then there definitely is so we have yeah
We're not going to get an answer on that But our second question is do you think the price of GPU's would go down if this idle inventory was available to consumers
Which I don't know the answer to either but what I do know is that it's time for
Our weekly check to see if you can buy an arc b580
For msrp one of these days. I am going to figure out our affiliate program for
Um New egg. I don't believe you I will I will and we're going to make some money on this segment
But it doesn't matter because the point for now is that yes. In fact, you can
What does black friday price protection mean? This was 249 the last time we looked at it
Oh, but there's an Intel holiday bundle with purchase limited offer
Hold on a second. What is it? Hopefully it's not 3d mark holiday bundle
battlefield sick wait pick one of four games
battlefield six Dying light the beast assassin's creed shadows and sieve seven
That's fantastic. You get one of those games with your
Qualifying purchase plus and this is until january 31st damn
So you pick one of these plus bonus content marvel rivals in-game content. Who cares exploit premium suite?
Okay, that's kind of cool canvid and vegas pro edit
365 That's right. My friends you can get all of this GPU and more for 249
99 If you were gonna buy one of those games, it's basically 200 bucks or less
Do they still have that feature where I can where I can see how many people have it in their cart?
Uh, I think you have to go to your cart, but yeah, I think so. I didn't have to do this before
Hold on cart my
Because I'm will oh 350 plus people have this in their cart right now. Yeah, uh, it's a great
Card for the price. We absolutely love the arc b580 LMG.gg slash new egg
Oh, okay. It's not easy. Who posted? Yeah, tim and chat tim and chat posted. Oh, that's hilarious
Uh, okay, tim says Linus won't read this, but it's on the screen. It's on the screen. Where is it?
I have no idea. Okay. Well, whatever the point is I had a meeting with Intel back at computex
I broke their balls a little bit about what I felt was a really misleading
aspect of their marketing where they they said that arc b580 was
The best GPU under Under $250 or 300 or whatever it was and I was like, okay, show me one for under that price
And they couldn't and it got a little tense and I was like, I need a plan from you guys
So that I stopped being a liar every time that I talk about your msrp's because it's not okay
And you know what they never really got back to me on the timeline that I asked for
But but but within a span of weeks not months
Arc b580s were available for msrp, which was all I wanted and they have consistently been available for this price to the point where
Guys, it's a great deal. It's a great card. It will slay 1080p
It's even quite 1440p capable and it's 250 us dollars
I freaking love this thing and I want them to sell lots of them
And I don't you can use the you can use the the affiliate thing or you can just not I this is completely editorial
I want competition in the GPU space. I want to see a b770. It's still rumored. I don't know if it's real
I want arc to succeed because I need competition in this space and
Intel's architectural and software improvements are promising
Look at what they're doing on the MSI claw ai 8x plus whatever whatever the stupid handheld is called
Look at the power. Look at the performance. They're still driver bugs
They still have work to do But the trajectory is so promising and I need lip boutan to not abandon this thing
We got to show growth. We got to show success for it because I want competition
That's all I have to say about that and you you know, he doesn't want to keep it around
He doesn't want to keep anything around Exactly. I'm so upset that pat is never going to see the fruits of pat's plan for Intel
And that the stock just goes up because lbt just cuts jobs
Like I
Anyway What was I supposed to be talking about? Oh, right. Yeah, david asks. Oh my god back on the microsoft power power topic
Is the current level of investment into ai sustainable?
david knows that I Don't think anyone really thinks that it's sustainable
But hey, are we in a bubble? I don't know. This isn't financial advice
Uh, there was one other thing that I wanted to point out actually since we're on the subject of GPU's though is that
Intel arc is not the only GPU that you can find these days
For a pretty reasonable price Uh, hold on a second. I thought was it uh, was it 50 70 ti's that were under msrp? No, that's at msrp
Was it 50 70? Let's see. I thought there was one NVIDIA card that was actually under msrp on new egg right now
uh new
Yeah, $20 rebate card. I don't know
I uh, yeah
Is it mail in if it's a mail-in rebate? I don't I don't know it. Yeah, I rebate does not count
I counted a little it does not count. I counted a little I don't not count it
I only count it if it's decently substantial
20 bucks Would you you would send a letter for 20 bucks 20 bucks 20 bucks for sure. Yeah, it was 20 bucks
I just it is a Not even sort of hidden secret at these retailers that you get a mail-in rebate
That's low enough and then nobody does it so it's just not even a discount that you know that
You know that I know you know that I don't think I have I don't think I have ever told this story on wancho before but back when I was the product manager for
ocz ssds back at ncix Um, they would often like push me to take a bunch of inventory that I told them
I was like, you know that I can't move this with our run rate business You guys are gonna have to do promos to sell them and they'd be like no, no, it'll be fine. It'll be fine
Take all this inventory and I'd be like, okay. Tell you what here's the deal. I'll take the inventory
But we're on net terms. We're on net 30 terms
But I literally I'm not going to We could be at 31 days 35 days 300 days. I don't care. I'm not paying this bill until we've sold them
You can push me you can dump all this inventory. You can stuff me is what the term would be you can stuff me with inventory
But it's your problem It's still your inventory as far as I'm concerned until it's sold
and so what would happen is We would get to the point where my terms are due and they would ask for payment
I'd be like, hey, so here's the email where I said I'm not paying you for these unless you move them
Here's my inventory report that I sent you on a weekly basis that shows that I do in fact still have them
what are you going to do about it and
There's this one time. I think we ran a 100 dollar mail-in rebate
on an ocz SSD And that's crazy
Because they had all the kind of the math that they could do on the back end for like what the redemption rates would be
and you know, whatever writes to the fuzzy math that you can do with your your instant rebates and your mailing rebates and
Anyway, we ran this promo. It was a big hit And there was a there was a time a little while later that they stuffed me again
And I was like, okay, this is your problem. Why don't we do another hundred dollar mail-in rebate? And they go
Oh line aside. I really don't know if we can do that. I go. Why not? I mean you did it before
You know and they're like, well See, I might have gotten in a little bit of trouble because the redemption rate was almost 100
I mean, yeah, the fact that it was only an almost is crazy to me
Um, how do you just not mail a letter for a hundred dollars for a hundred dollars? Yeah, buddy
I would dude, dude, like I bought a uh, I bought a benq. I'll always remember this. I bought a benq cd writer
Um at future shop on a boxing day promo because it was 25 dollars with a 25 dollar rebate
And I was like, buddy, it's for real estate. Yeah, it was a crazy deal They had a whole pyramid of them just like on a palette and I was like, I'll take one of those. Sure
Did they max out how many you could buy? Yeah one one per customer. Yeah, okay, that makes sense
So that was uh, that was a get you in the door thing. Oh, yeah, a hundred percent
I don't know what was in it for benq, but then something in it for future shop for sure
um aw 11682 asks how do mail-in rebates actually work not a thing in the uk
So what you do is you buy a product say for example this rgx box ally x which by the way
You could actually have a chance to win one if you make a purchase on LTT Store
We have the full Details of our spend a hundred dollars plus for a chance to win the sennheiser headphones i'm wearing or the rg ally x
Etc. Etc. Etc. On the store go check it out. Uh, let's say you were to buy one of these
Okay, you get a receipt right you get an invoice and you also get your product with the box
So what a lot of mail-in rebates would have you do is cut out a piece of the box
Like something to show that you are redeeming it only once some piece of the packaging
And then you would also include your your receipt showing that you bought it from a qualifying reseller
and then you put those in In an envelope with the mail-in rebate form that you filled out with your name address and
Uh where they can mail a check you send it to the address of the company and they send you back a check
That you then deposit into your bank account And the idea behind it is that this rigmarole of filling out forms and cutting out pieces of boxes
Is a hassle that most people won't go through
So it allows the retailer and the seller of the goods to or the manufacturer of the goods to advertise a very aggressive price
Knowing that the lazy people who don't bother are subsidizing the people who actually get it at that price
So if they're doing like, you know, $20 off. So instead of being three
$420 it's 399 after mail-in rebate
What that tells you is that what their margin would really support is a price of about
$407 Or you know $412 and they'll have their own internal data for what percentage of people are likely to redeem these mail-in rebates
um At what sort of different rebate amounts and and in different product segments that might be different as well
And from different retailers you can have a very different customer base with a very different
Appetite for for deal hunting and coupon cutting
Uh katoa says don't forget they expire. That's right. So and you have to do it within a certain amount of time or the deal expires
Yeah, that's a mail-in rebate. There you go. And it turns out if you do a $100 one
Pretty much everyone will will redeem it
Amazon says no to ai shopping. This was put in the doc by jordan
Amazon is suing perplexity ai demanding that the startup stop letting its comment browser make purchases on behalf of the company
Amazon says that Comet covertly accessed amazon customer accounts and disguised automated activity as human browsing
Amazon says this poses a security risk and interferes with the shopping experience and has demanded that
Perplexity end its misconduct
Perplexity. Oh man. That's the word. I'm having trouble with today has rejected amazon's claims in the past saying amazon is using its market dominance to stifle competition
In a blog post titled bullying is not innovation. The startup calls amazon's legal actions a threat to all internet users
Our discussion question is should ai agents be able to use your accounts and impersonate you to complete a task on your behalf?
If you instruct them to or should retailers be able to insist on human interaction?
He's thinking he's having to think retailers if it's the retailer should be able to effectively do whatever they want in this situation
I mean should they I mean do they do it? Yeah, they should be able to yeah, I mean they tell us that they don't want us to scrape their pricing data and we would
I think they should be able to do it. Yeah, they should be able to do it. Yeah, I mean they tell us that they don't want us to scrape their pricing data
And we would never do that No, of course not. Right. So do we really respect retailers wishes to have their site used the way they want?
No, but it's not about respecting wishes. This is this is like the ad block argument, right?
Like they somebody can retaliate against you ad blocking that doesn't mean you can't ad block
Um, it's it's the same type of thing like if if if amazon decides
Oh, we don't want these automated things. We're going to try to stop them then I mean as far as my understanding
Those are completely within the right to do that. Um, should they?
I don't necessarily think so. I suspect I think it's a liability thing
Because uh, because what's your thing that you always say?
Uh machines can't be held accountable So if I said, oh, yeah, no my I I told my ai not to
Then all of a sudden amazon's the one who's on the hook for either giving me a refund for this product or
Dealing with me sending it back to them or whatever like they're the ones That's what I would try to figure out
That's what I would try to figure out is I would I would I would maybe block it temporarily
And come to an agreement with this group or whatever
That they have to assume some level of liability Um, but there's no way that they're going to do that because they're an ai company and you know how ai companies are around
Their own liability for freaking anything whether it's people, you know unaliving themselves or whether it's uh
I mean, that's the worst thing I could think of so there you go. Uh, or you know, okay training their training their models on stolen
data like They they're just they're trying to avoid any kind of responsibility at every turn as far as I can tell and that's across the board
Yeah, max overdrive said but some people have assistance through shopping for them. Um, sure
What's the difference between that and ai? Because a human can be held
Yep That's it
In other news that assistant would be the one held accountable servers in space
This is another topic from jordan NVIDIA sent the h100 GPU into space on board the star cloud one satellite on sunday to test how data centers could work
in orbit Terrestrial data centers require massive amounts of electricity and water
And star cloud one is the first step of a plan from redmond washington based startup star cloud to move resource hungry data crunching infrastructure into space
Hopefully to reduce the environmental impact
Ah, yes Let's fire off the rockets to reduce the environmental impact. Yes, and don't forget. Don't forget. Very good. Lower earth orbit
Here we need that. Yes Very very good. Yes during the satellite's three-year mission
NVIDIA will be testing a range of ai use cases including analyzing images of the earth and running an llm by google
Not to be outdone google announced suncatcher
Aiming to use solar power to run super efficient ai infrastructure
I mean cool. The project plans to launch two prototype satellites by early 2027
This all comes after amazon founder jeff bezos predicted
Gigawatt scale data centers would be built in space within the next 10 to 20 years
Where the continuously available solar energy will see them eventually outperform terrestrial data centers
Bezos says space-based infrastructure is the next step of using space to improve life
on earth
You look so mad. It's great in other space news
spews Semiconductor startup bexar has signed a launch agreement with SpaceX to integrate the company's experimental fab ship payloads into 12 upcoming launches
The fab ships will not enter orbit. They will remain attached to the booster and return to earth within about 10 minutes of launch
During each mission The fab ships will conduct tests to evaluate the feasibility of space-based chip fabrication
This stuff is crazy including whether semiconductor materials can withstand the journey to space
And the subsequent reentry
Yeah, that's stuff snuts, but why though?
I don't remember. Is it to avoid like movement of the earth?
I I honestly I honestly don't remember I
It's been so long since i've read about this, but this is like a thing
It's it's it's an oxygen free environment. A lot of a lot of fabrication is done under vacuum. That's something
Yeah, but we can create kato s says I think it was to do with clean room, but like yeah, but there's so much radiation out there
So you're gonna have what you're gonna have this like shielded orbiting fab thing
How about when you need to perform maintenance on it? Like have we have we gone bad gravity? That's it. It's micro it's microgravity
Oh, it's not the vacuum It allows you to create perfect spheres more easily
microgravity Which makes a ton of sense
I
Because I I'm remembering that's why they That's why they're doing drug research in space as well a lot of it's microgravity
A lot of our research for like making things on earth always has to deal with gravity, right?
So when you take gravity out of the equation some things change
In some cases for the better when trying to make certain things
Got it Long line of says companies will do anything to not bring tech bring chip production to the west
Literally put it in space
Dude imagine the cost imagine the cost imagine how many they're going to be able to make in the in that amount of time
Imagine the cost of each one of those chips
Oh, man, it would be cooler. It would be cooler if it was like moon base or something
Uh Yeah, you're still gonna maybe maybe they're just doing research for now and then it becomes moon base or something later, but yeah
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Incompetent false advertising see the people are always talking about how great riley's singing sponsor spots are how about that?
Yeah, yeah, well, there you go. You know riley's singing is so good
It would be interesting if we maybe maybe we could do
Like an album and like there's there's this event coming up that i know a lot of people get
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Really good value You know what else could be really good value? Oh my god. I thought you'd forget
You know, I wouldn't buy like if if you and I
sang another christmas album I don't think i'd buy that if riley sang a christmas album
I would buy that i'd buy that for a dollar i'd buy that i'd buy that for more than a dollar
Okay, i know the reference, but i'd buy that for more than okay 13 dollars
It's a digital product. Okay, imagine imagine no shipping handling fees. No, it's not no shipping fees in general
No, it's not a digital product. It's gonna have to be a vinyl
Wait, you're in 2020
something
We did it all right, okay, all right we we remaster it
Um, wait, we remaster it or like we read. No, we re re-recorded we do both so we can have a we can have a digital
No No
You're about to candle playing your hand, sir. Okay. Okay. No, no.
Luke, it's okay. We'll do it secretly. Nope. No, just won't tell him. Nope.
No, it'll be the B side. No, that is not work. And that is not something we are expending resources on.
You could Konami code on that page on the store. Nope.
And it gives you the rematch. Absolutely not.
We could do a, we could do a loot system where like, uh, we might send you the remaster vinyl instead of the new one.
You're also going to get this unapproved so fast. No, that's like you've already approved it. No, I can unapprove things.
You did already approve it. I can not sign a check. I can do that. I do have that power.
I cannot sign the check for the vinyl. You don't have to sign for direct deposit.
Believe it or not, I in principle have to sign.
In principle. I have to approve it. I have to approve it. And that's still not out yet.
KiltTT Christmas album, the vinyls that you heard it here first.
A certain amount. So here's what we're going to do. Here's what we'll do.
All right. We will, we will take the original songs.
We will add some more because I think we should probably have some new songs.
There really weren't that many. You mean, you mean, you mean as they were written?
As they were written in terms of lyrics. Yeah. Yeah. Not, not saying.
No, heavens. No, no, no, none of that would be creative freedom to rewrite.
Yeah. I mean, we could make some tweaks. They weren't bad. Some of them were pretty bad, but, but we might do a couple of new,
we'll do a couple of fresh tracks. It won't be Riley singing every time. I think we could still have a couple of people participate
as long as they like are decent this time. Auto tune has come a long way in the last 10 years.
OK. In 2020, let's say, let's say 2027 to give ourselves time.
2027. Ella 27, we could do it next year easily.
We don't need to wait till 2027. I'm not even like trying to know about this.
I am not trying to overpromise. If it's 2027, 2026, it's a year.
We can make it out. Luke, promise you Riley can make an album a year from now.
Do you know? It's not that. That's not what I'm concerned about. I'm concerned about like, we've got to figure out packaging.
We've got to figure out how to ship like a vinyl. We've never done it before.
And is it easy? Maybe. But we've never done it before.
We've got to figure out a partner to actually get them pressed. Like, I don't want to put, I don't want to put that team in a position
where they're like, holy crap, why did Linus promise to do this next year? This sucks. We don't have enough time.
Like, we might have to ship by sea, we might have to ship by sea from wherever they're being manufactured.
I don't know. I can't promise what I don't know. What I can say is 2027 is probably almost certainly doable.
OK, that gives us time. Can we say that we might do 2026,
but we're just not going to commit to it at this time? I would love if we could do 2026.
We will commit to at the latest Christmas 2027.
We will hopefully commit to 2027.
I can't promise anything. I like not committing to anything.
I'm cool with that. Yeah, OK, all right. So, so Riley, we will.
I mean, I haven't spoken with Riley about this. I'm sure he'd be. He's going to have to want to.
If he doesn't want to, that is totally fair. Then that's fine.
So, so, so Riley slash and people who can actually sing
LNG Christmas album, Christmas 2027.
Let's do it. But there will be no. We will not speak of the original Christmas album
being remastered or being re-released in any form.
If people really want it and they don't, it's still on the forum.
You can technically buy it every year.
Yeah, I need I need to be very clear about this.
We have sold thousands of them and it literally sells every single year
and they literally for a decade and it literally shouldn't.
It doesn't. It shouldn't exist. But you can't you can't say they don't want it.
When they are actively continually, I can say,
forgive them, Lord, they know not what they do.
That's what the customer is not right in matters of taste.
They just. Yes. I think we've all met a tasteless customer.
If you guys hold on just 30 seconds.
For what? Somebody's typing back to my message on teams.
You got to be kidding me right now. OK, AMD, AMD clarifies Riley Murdoch's 9.23 p.m.
November 7th, 2025.
I mean, you know, I do.
I am so happy.
This is great. This is all I wanted for Christmas.
This is fantastic in all capitals. With what time, though? Question mark, question mark.
Well, we'll figure that out. We've got time. Yeah, we've got time.
We'll figure that out. The main thing that's important to me is that it's going to happen
eventually if he needs till 2027.
Sure. OK, so I think it'll be. I think it'll be a combination release.
I think we'll have to do a vinyl. We should probably do a CD and then for people who are not
into owning physical media, we could probably do a digital one.
We got to do a digital. Conrad says. Digital delivery is native supported on Shopify.
OK, yeah, and we've got to do a digital version. Thank you, Conrad. I just mean, I think the I think the we should have a vinyl for sure,
as well, absolutely. And some people are super into CD at this point.
Like it's it's CDs, trendy again, dude. I don't want to do a thing where if you buy the CD or vinyl version,
you just get the digital download for free in addition.
Yeah, maybe. Sure, there's a way you can. Yeah, there's got to be a way to do that. I don't want to promise anything right now because I have no idea.
But there should be no reason why we couldn't build a mechanism for that. Mail and code it.
Yeah.
Minidisc. No, we're not doing a minidisc. You could also do something where the digital download is like
like a super cheap add on or something like that. You could be like for an extra five bucks or whatever.
Because I don't know exactly how Shopify handles that. And so we'll figure it out.
But like, OK, yeah, eight tracks. I can totally see wanting the vinyl version.
Like I will buy the vinyl version just to be clear.
But then I would also want the digital versions.
And so we'll have to do. Dude, I promise you the internal people using their merge budget
on this is going to be extremely high. Dude, Bridget is going to she's going to lose her shit
because I actually had a conversation with her earlier this week
where I was like, you know, that design would actually look pretty cool
on like an ugly Christmas sweater. And she's like, is this approval to do a Christmas sweater?
And I was like, whoa, hold on.
But if we had a Christmas sweater as a time, it would it would have to be alive.
Dude, if you really. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Matching Christmas pajamas and the matching Christmas sweater
and a matching Christmas album. You do know that's going to push it to 2027, though, right?
Oh, by all of it, I would be OK with that. All right. Oh, man.
All right, we'll see. Is it more time to be mastered?
My goodness. All right. All right. I'm so excited.
All right. All right. Christmas ones.
Man, now you've got the whole company all like excited about this.
Jeez, because it's exciting. We got to just do things sometimes, man. It's fun.
It's a lot of work, Luke. That's sometimes fun is work.
Oh, man. Work is fun, whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I think you meant the second one.
No, no, no, no, no. You know, we're going to sell like a few hundred of them, right?
Like, no, we won't. No, we won't. We will sell. I promise you, we will say way more than that.
I guarantee I have no idea how many vinyls to press.
I have no clue. I have no idea. This could be this could totally be a pre-order thing, right?
What you could probably do is put the digital one up for sale
and then put the vinyl one up for pre-sale. It's like it's like a weird.
It's like a weird like, man,
because people buy vinyls of albums they have listened to.
Like that is totally a thing. That's true. You can put the digital one up for sale
and then the vinyl for pre-sale. I can pretty much guarantee you can do that and then you won't have to massively overorder it.
We don't do pre-orders. Yeah, but I think it's OK.
Yeah, digital one is up for sale first because then you can get reviews of it
and you know if you like the music. So we don't do pre-orders
because we don't want to be stuck in a position where we don't have a firm timeline on something
and we are going to be just like holding your money indefinitely. That's one of the reasons.
Yeah, and we don't do pre-orders because we don't want to set a bad example
for the industry where there's like questionable quality
potentially and we're taking your money up front without you having an opportunity to find out if it's any good.
So there are certain things that we would have no problem taking a pre-order on.
I would have no problem taking a pre-order on a mousepad with a new graphic, for instance,
because it's our same proven high-quality mousepad
but just with a graphic with a supplier that we've worked with emptying bazillion times in the past
and we have a firm idea of what the ETA is going to be. But what I don't want to take a pre-order on
is something like say, for example, a mod mat where something unexpected might happen
and we might not be able to deliver it in the time that we wanted to.
So that's why we don't do pre-orders because not taking pre-orders is the right thing for reasons.
Not because pre-orders are just blank it wrong and should never be done
but because there are reasons that maybe they shouldn't be done
and we want to put our money where our mouth is.
All right, AMD has clarified its clarifications
on their controversial RDNA1 and 2 driver note.
They will continue game optimization after all. They will continue to receive new game support,
stability and game optimization, security and bug fixes. The other branch for newer cards
is to allow AMD's engineers to move faster and integrate new features at a faster pace.
I still don't understand what that means. Isn't this what we said? No, this is further clarification of the clarification
but here is a clarification.
I am feeling- Of the clarification of the clarification? I would like to clarify that I am feeling a lack of gas
and so I need your help. Usually he's extremely gaseous.
We are attempting to get the environmental chamber
that we bought recently at auction up and running. However, we have discovered that the gases we need
are extremely expensive. If anybody has the following gases
or a connection to getting them locally here in Vancouver
or like West Coast Canada or cheap,
please reach out to us via Reddit or the forum.
Yeah, just, yeah, public post is probably fine and we can DM you if you seem credible.
We need 15 pounds four ounces of R404A
and we need 10 pounds of R508B.
If you have a lead on any of these gases, if you have some cylinders of them kicking around somewhere
that you weren't gonna do anything with, A, wow, good for you
because that's a lot of money worth of gases. You must be very rich to have gases like that
sitting around not doing anything and not sell them. But B, thank you so much for maybe giving us a deal
because it is going to be extremely expensive
for us to get this thing going. Is it expensive to the point where we like might
just abandon it if we- Potentially.
Like what's the, yeah, okay. Potentially, we're gonna do our best.
So that was 15 pounds four ounces of R404A
and 10 pounds of R508B.
Even if we do get all the gases, there could still be significant challenges
in getting it running. Apparently it is so loud that anybody in the,
if we were not to enclose it, anybody working in the lab
would have to wear hearing protection at all times.
So there are challenges,
but basically we would like to at least get to the point of part two
where we get the thing running and I'm pretty bullish on that. We actually managed to find the person,
the technician who decommissioned it. And what he told us is that when he decommissioned it,
it was in great shape and working great.
So that gives us a ton of hope.
Okay. So that's where we're at. I just thought we were collecting extremely large rooms
that we don't use in Labs like Pokemon or something. The diff says, quite you.
Would Northern Washington be okay? Maybe. I actually just don't know what the complications
of getting it over the border would be. It's possible. If the deal's right, then we're good.
We would try to figure it out because we really want to try, even if it doesn't end up being part of our setup overall,
we want to at least get this thing working for the lulls. So we need to get our hands on these gases.
Can you take it in checked baggage?
That's an earlier in the show reference. It's not an electronic thing.
All right, Dan, let's do some, let's do some merge messages, shall we?
Going into after dark then. Good Lordy, there's a few merge messages today.
Okay. It's been busy. I wonder why.
Oh yeah, I meant to have a look at what you guys were into today.
The answer is,
holy balls. Okay.
What is it? What is the answer? When you have a combination of things going on,
you have the sweepstakes thing, and you have the discount things. Oh no, I just mean product-wise.
People are super into the new WAN hoodie. So this is good because I had a long conversation
or I've had many long conversations with the merge team because they're like,
okay, what is our direction for WAN stuff? Is it orange? Is it red?
I'm like, look, I want to see this launch. We did a poll, but there's a big difference
between what people respond to a poll to,
or what people say in a poll response versus what they actually buy, right?
Firefox, for instance. So I need to see this red one actually sell.
I need to see people resonate with red and the LTT brand as opposed to orange.
And when that happens, then we can make a decision. We can chart a path forward
in terms of like how our color branding works. So yeah, WAN hoodie's doing pretty good.
You guys are super into it, apparently. Transparent screwdrivers.
Someone internally very recently expressed concern
over our ability to move as many of the WAN hoodie
as we ordered, and I had a quick chuckle
and was like, they'll get them. Oh yeah.
It'll be all right. Yeah, everything's gonna be okay.
You know, I think, you know what? I mean, that wouldn't be the first person
to kind of bring up concerns and stress, you know, around work over the last couple of years,
which is good. We want to hear those things, right? We want to get a chance to address those things
for anyone on staff who is watching right now, right? Like it needs to be a conversation.
But we're okay. You know, we've definitely had some struggles.
I mean, we've talked openly about viewership not being where I want it right now on LTT.
I mean, we're having a lot of conversations of future.
And I think this, we've talked about it a lot where there's that 100 employee threshold
that's really, really hard to cross. And I feel like what's going on right now
is we've been sitting on the threshold long enough that in my opinion, at least,
I can see the way off if that makes sense.
And the path forward is logical.
It's been painful to sit here for this long, but this is realistically relatively normal
for companies that get to about this size.
And I'm pretty excited about, I don't know if we want to talk about them yet,
but I'm pretty excited about some of the plans that we have for like honestly,
pretty much every part of the company. And they all rhyme, which I think is really cool.
Like almost every department is taking a similarly inspired step forward.
Does that make sense? Can I say that? I didn't really leak any plans.
I don't know. As far as I'm concerned, you can just say it. I don't care.
Nope. Okay. I don't want a team's message on Monday
of like, why did I learn about this stuff on Wansha? We'll talk about it internally first.
We literally have a section in the Monday morning email
that includes stuff that was leaked on Wansha.
Yeah, but we'll wait. That doesn't mean we should use it.
Tynan says probably the right call in the chat, but is it the fun call, Tynan?
No, it's not. But you guys will just have to wait.
All right. But yeah, I'm feeling pretty good about stuff.
Absolutely not the fun call. Yeah, see, right?
Okay, wanna hit me with a rich message, Dan? Sure, sure, we got a bunch here.
Linus, it isn't fair. Actually, no, hold on. Okay.
One more thing I wanted to say is that even though, yeah, viewership hasn't been
where I really want it to be, what has been really cool for me to see
over the last little while is that sentiment around the content that we've been uploading
has been really positive. With, I think, one exception out of the last few weeks,
the like ratio has been way higher
than what has historically been our average. And when I say way higher, I mean like,
anywhere from 0.5 to a percent higher, because we're realistically in a pretty narrow band,
but that historically has indicated, like, banger video that people are really engaging with
and really loving. Another thing that's been really cool is like,
the support that we're getting from our audience on places like Floatplane has been amazing.
Like, we've been hovering around 40,000 Floatplane subscribers for quite a while now.
Like, we're basically, you know, back to where we were near our peak.
We're a few thousand short, but like, wow. That peak was also juiced up from the hack
and stuff like that. When you look into statistical averages of like,
other platforms where you can see some of the numbers
of conversion between subscribers or average viewership
and amount of people subscribed to an external funding platform,
like you guys have come out to support us
in a pretty big way. So I appreciate it. And you've done it through the store too. Like, we know that times are not amazing
in a lot of industries. And we would never ask you guys to spend money
you don't have, that we don't want.
But if you do have it, you know, the way that you guys have supported us through the store
has been absolutely incredible. So yeah, I just wanted to, just wanted to thank you guys.
Thank you. Merge message.
Oh yeah, right. And the last bit was like, because of your support,
we are going to be okay. Like everything's fine.
We to this day have never had to conduct layoffs
and, you know, knock on wood. Yeah, I hope that that wouldn't happen.
And it's all because of you guys. Thank you.
All right. At Linus, it isn't fair to expect employees
to have founder passion. What's your number one advice
for a one man business on hiring? And more importantly, trusting their very first employee.
Oh, man.
No pressure, Linus, I was listening closely. I was about to say, I don't know because-
Make them live in the office. I don't think,
I think that Luke would agree very strongly
with the statement that I didn't handle it perfectly.
So- Oh, sure. It's hard for me to,
it's hard for me to credibly give advice. I can tell you, you know,
some of the things that I feel I did well.
A high degree of transparency is really important
because that's going to help you achieve alignment
and help you guys, you know, work together on hopefully adding more employees.
I think that working alongside and leading by example
is incredibly important.
Oh, man. This would tie very well into, you know,
something that wasn't done, that some steps are being made to rectify,
but that we aren't ready to talk about yet and just kind of pending a conversation
between the two of us. But maybe Luke could give some of his thoughts
on whatever it is he wants to say about this because realistically, he's gone through this
as the number one, well, number two, technically, if we count Yvonne, which I do, but sorry, Luke.
But, you know, that still makes Luke, you know, the number two man, right?
Like he's the guy. He was the first one that actually,
I think your employee number is technically one, isn't it?
I think it depends on where you look. On the healthcare plan, it's one.
Yeah, because I think I wanted a meme one. I wanted 69 or something.
Yeah, I think we both asked for that or it was leaked.
It was one of the other, but you like legitimately technically asked first.
I don't remember which, I don't remember the story,
but I remember we asked for the same thing and it's something, I don't know. Yeah.
Yvonne was like, this is awkward.
Yeah, anyways. So like what would be your advice
for a one man business on hiring and more importantly,
creating a relationship that is trusting
with their first employee? Now you're on the spot.
Boom. Oh no, I sort of did this. I sort of did this because of AJ, right?
Oh, that's true. I wanted to hear the other perspective though. He's gonna dodge. He dodged it.
He fucking dodged it. Whoosh.
You gotta remember to fucking kneel. You fucking kneel here. Dodging bullets.
Oh, that was crazy. This guy.
Oh, that was funny. It's the hard art incident all over again.
I don't know, opposite, I'll try to give both. So I'll undodge.
Oh, I'll jump back in front of it.
I, and I don't think this is too much of a secret,
in many ways I preferred,
and in many ways I think what we're doing now is super cool, but my brain operates more properly
in a very small business mindset approach, et cetera.
Panic survival mode is Luke's mode.
Love that. Actually though, it fuels me in a lot of ways,
and things being like, yeah, I don't know.
So I liked it back then. I liked the way we worked together.
No, I don't think everything was handled perfectly, but if you think you're gonna handle everything perfectly
with your first person, you're actually nuts.
You're realistically not gonna handle everything perfectly with anyone.
So you're gonna have to deal with that eventually.
And I think it's often not making the mistake.
It's how you deal with it after the fact.
Like I would like to,
yeah, I have multiple examples of that, right? Like not necessarily handling something super well,
and then I would like to hope to think that I did relatively well after that point
in trying to fix the problem. And I can think of recent ones,
and I fully expect if I keep managing people moving forward,
that that will keep happening moving forward. It's just part of it.
So I wouldn't worry too much about screwing up with them
just because it's going to happen. Obviously try not to do it,
but focus more on just being good to them
and when you make mistakes, just correct it. And like Linus said, be transparent and be honest.
And when you screw up, just tell them. And never underestimate the power of a genuine apology.
And when I say apology, I don't mean words. I mean, talking through what you were thinking,
even if what you were thinking is embarrassing and something that makes you question
if you are actually that good of a person. Because you know if you're thinking it,
they're thinking it. So you got to get it out there in the open. You got to say, okay, well like, here's what I was thinking
and here's why I did what I did and I'm sorry
and the behavior will change. And then it has to actually like change.
You have to actually do something.
Yeah, in regards to, oh, sorry.
No, no, I'm done. Yeah, go ahead. I was going to say in regards to the hiring of that person,
that's tough. I kind of had an easy out with AJ
because he just kind of like showed up. Volunteered. Yeah, and then volunteered and then I was like.
And we started paying him. Hey, this is working out.
So I kind of skipped that part, but I would be pretty careful about it.
And at the same time, I don't know if I would worry too much
because this is like the one time ever
that you're going to be incredibly close
and we'll see everything that they're doing. So if it's not working out,
you could end it relatively quickly. And that aspect is going to get more difficult over time.
Oh yeah. And there's a certain thing with hiring where like it's very easy to put on a face
for an hour, for an interview.
I have witnessed it myself where someone is just very different
once they're actually on the job site or even remotely, I've experienced that as well.
People will often say things about how like,
a lot of my interview questions are like, how would you handle like this scenario?
And they say the things that you want to hear and then you see them in that scenario
and they do the complete opposite. You're going to run into situations where
people just weren't what you thought they were.
So try, obviously, try to hire the right person, try to ask some good questions,
try to make sure that you're sussing them out as best you possibly can,
but understand that it might just not work. And if it doesn't work that you just need to move on.
And especially at that point in your company, probably quickly.
So, yeah. To what Luke was saying about,
this is someone that you're going to work with like side by side, day to day, a lot, you know, for me,
I think a lot of founders would say like, don't befriend your employees, you know,
draw kind of a hard line there. And there's definitely times when, you know,
trying to be friends, not because, you know, you want to, not because there's like an agenda,
but because you just work side by side every day and you like, you know,
hired people that you like and stuff, you know, has backfired many, many, many times for me,
sometimes in private, sometimes in public, like it's, it can get really messy.
But like, I don't have any regrets as far as first employee goes yet, knock on wood.
And so, you know, it was really important to find someone that I really wanted to work with every day.
And that's something that I would say,
whether you, you know, take the, whether you allow yourself to be friends
or whether you, you know, maintain boundaries or whatever it is that you kind of approach
the relationship is, I would say that it's got to be someone
that you want to get up and spend the day with.
You will spend more of your high quality,
mentally functioning hours with this person
for at least some period of time than probably your spouse.
Yeah, right. So it's like actually very important.
People, I think especially when they're first starting hiring,
people really underestimate culture fit and how incredibly important that is.
And that is still a thing when there's two of you.
It's just like, it's, it's actually so important.
You hear about this stuff. Like I remember being a kid, hearing people talking about like,
oh, like it shouldn't matter who you know,
it shouldn't matter how I act. I'm the best on the job. I remember hearing that mentality and be like,
oh man, okay, cool. I just need to get like really good at stuff
and then nothing else matters. And it's like, no, that's not how groups of people work.
You ideally are really good at stuff, but you also need to not be completely insufferable
to be around because if you are, nothing's really going to get done properly.
No one's going to want to talk to you. Therefore, collaboration is going to be a problem.
There's going to be adversarial relationships are going to be created.
It's like, it's actually incredibly not okay
for them to be just toxic and impossible to work with.
So don't hire just on skill either. You need to be able to get along with this person.
No, you do not need to be best friends.
You need to be able to get along and be happy to work with them,
which is a very different thing. Sometimes they're related,
but they are very different things. Yeah.
I don't know why I looked at YouTube chat, but I did. We've got buddy here, New World Disorder.
Co-workers are not friends. They are coworkers. Share no personal info.
Just talk about weather. And I was like, man, you gotta, someone hurt you, you know?
Yeah. And then their immediate next message is, I've worked with thousands of people over 35 years.
Personal info will get used against you at some point. People talk when you aren't around,
no matter how cool you think you are. New World Disorder, there's some truth there,
but it is also possible that people,
like you didn't seem super warm and fuzzy
in your first message.
Is it possible that you're the common denominator here?
I'm just, I'm throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there.
Just throwing it out there. And you know what though?
You know what though? There is some truth there.
Like even not coworkers, like even like industry acquaintances,
I have had information that I have shared with people that I considered to be at least
like sort of friends, like industry friends.
I've had it used against me in public to damage me. It just happened multiple times.
And I don't know, man. I don't think I can find myself at that point
where I just go, okay, well then I'm just not gonna share any personal information with anybody.
I'll just talk about the weather. I don't think I can do that. I don't think, I don't think I'd be happy like that.
And if it works for you, then it works for you, but I think I'd rather get hurt again.
Yeah, I'm generally a pretty open book, I think, for better or for worse.
And it's come back to hurt me too, but I think there are benefits to being that way, right?
It's, you do not build trust with people
by not giving trust.
There has to be a little bit back and forth. And I've appreciated when people that I work with
are able to be open with me about things that might be going on with them,
that can help me accommodate them best I can
to make sure that they're able to do, like fully corporate company had on.
This allows me to make sure that they're able to do the best job that they can.
And if this is like a very talented person who's in a rut, it's pretty valuable to the company
if we can wait the rut out and be a good place
for them to be when they come back.
And then also personally, it just, I feel like it's good for my soul.
So like company had off, so I don't know.
I try to find as many things that satisfy company had on
and company had off at the same time as possible. It's tough.
It's not always possible, but you try to do it as much as you can.
All right, my last YouTube message for the day from YouTube chat.
Dale Earnhardt seatbelt says, LMAO out of the thousands of coworkers,
I've never been the issue. But what about that time you worked with Dale Earnhardt?
Sorry.
That doesn't get it dinged in? Fine. Fine.
Fine. Fine. I got to wash my hand now.
All right, anyway, Dan hit me with another. Sure.
Good evening, gentlemen. Thank you for the quality merch.
Out of curiosity, if you could host WAN Show from any location, where would you want to host it from?
Right here. It is so much easier when we're just both in studio.
It is. It is. Every time that I'm out on a Friday,
I actually get really annoyed because it's just like, yeah, it sucks.
But WAN is like far superior. But since you want an answer that's more fun than that,
from low earth orbit on a spacecraft,
I think if we were in space together, that would be the most fire WAN Show of all time.
I completely agree. I will, to be less cool and interesting than that,
my favorite location WAN Show that we've done,
I feel like it's probably the Japan one. That was the one that I was going to say
if I had to pick a favorite one. I had actually, I had opened up a YouTube window
so that I could search for WAN Japan and then I came up with the better,
I came up with the better answer. That's hilarious. We're completely aligned on this.
Love it. It was so good. I don't remember what the title was or anything
to try to find it. But we were in the kimonos and everything. Here it is.
Look at this. Look how much fun these guys are having.
And Ed was passed out drunk behind the camera. It was great.
He finished setting it up and then just followed. Basically, yeah.
He fell asleep on the stairs.
Oh, it was so good. We forgot we had to do it. And then we were both like wicked tired.
And it's probably the most tired we both were on one WAN Show together.
Yeah, the collective tiredness factor was pretty high.
That was incredible. That was awesome.
Hello, WAN.DLL. Hello back. In much of my engineering work, flight test,
there's a lot of working through good and sometimes weird tech requirements.
What's one of the weirdest requirements you've had to work with? You added the word tech.
I did. Which ruined my answer. I'm so sorry.
I don't know where that came from actually. Probably the test above it.
Cause it's split on my monitor. Most of the weird requirements that I usually have
to work with are people imposed, not tech imposed.
Sorry. Sorry. And I would say that the most frustrating ones
usually come down to people not understanding the video production workflow.
Like I remember this one AMD launch event. I think it was the 580, was it the 580 or the 480?
It was a Polaris based card. Maybe it was the 480. And I remember they had us all in the briefing room.
Huge. Like there's probably like 80 to 100 tech reviewers
and journalists and analysts and stuff in this room.
And they go through this slideshow. And after it's done, I go, hey, I need the slides.
And they go, well, we can only send you a watermarked version of the slides.
And I go, okay, that doesn't work for me because the embargo lift is in 10 hours or whatever
at eight AM in the morning. And I have to now write and do video guidance
and wait for my editor. And then I have to review this video for accuracy
because it's the same day release. And then we have to encode it. And then we have to upload it.
And then I have to merge it. And that is not a lot of time. So what I really need is I need the slides
without watermarks right now so that we can not just dick around
and we can just edit the freaking video. And they go, well, you can't have them
because we're worried about leaks. And I go, brother, people had their cameras out
in the presentation. It's literally already leaked.
If you guys care that much, why don't you deal with the people to go triangulate
who the fuck was sitting there and go deal with them? Which you can do.
I don't leak. So why is this my problem?
Those are the kinds of issues where it's just like,
dude, help me, help you. Does it make any of us look good
if our slides have ugly watermark Linus tech tips all over them?
Do you look good? Do I look good? Do we look competent?
Then, okay, what's the point of an NDA? I signed the NDA.
You give me the information. I do my job, right?
Help me do my job. And so you just, I had to make it. I think I, I can't remember if it was director level
or VP level that I had to go to, to get my fucking slides.
Like, and it's just stuff like that, right? Where you just have to kind of go,
like another really funny one is like, you'll go into a really secure facility.
You'll go into like a high privacy environment. I'm not going to name it
because I don't feel like dealing with that.
But you'll have some piece of equipment, like some scientific piece of equipment that's like,
yeah, well, you can't shoot the logo, you know?
And it's like, buddy, anyone who works in this industry
knows what it is from looking at everything but the logo.
So what are you even talking about? Right?
Like you're obscuring the brand of what it is. And it's like, yeah, but I can shoot the entire thing.
I just have to blur the brand on it. Who are you trying to hide this from?
Who are you concealing it from? The people who are like building a, you know,
this high tech facility like you are, they know what it is from looking at it
because there's only so many vendors that make, I don't know, let's throw something out.
Scanning electron microscopes, right? Like how many people make those?
Okay, so they know what it is. And then everyone else, you're just withholding
information and you're blurring up my video frame. So what was the point of this?
It's all theater, right? So those are probably the most...
My favorite one was a brand that didn't let us document
one of the machines, exactly what you're describing.
Except later on, we looked up the YouTube channel
for the company that made the machine and there was a video on that channel
of them delivering the machine to the company that we were at.
And it shows the whole thing, the logos, the model name,
everything's on there and they're delivering it to,
like it's just, it's the most out there thing
you could possibly imagine. We did a tour at one point where there was this
bizarre requirement that cost us probably at least
half an hour to 45 minutes of just dicking around
where they didn't want us to show the ceiling of the space.
We couldn't show the ceiling.
Immediately on getting home, we went to their site
and there's just imagery all over their site that shows the ceiling of the space.
It's just like, buddy. Of course, of course.
Like I just can't, the problem is that it's a lot of work to say yes.
Because, and it's a lot of risk because you're personally responsible for saying yes,
people don't want responsibility and accountability. And I've talked about this extensively in the past.
It's safe to say no. But people who say no are not doers of things.
They don't accomplish anything. They're obstructions. They say, they're people who,
they're people who by the very definition of their nature,
by saying no, they don't get things done. Whereas, I keep telling people, whether it's my kids
or people on the team here, you gotta live life by improv rules,
which means you can't say no, you can say yes and
you have to find a path forward. You have to find a way to incorporate someone else's idea,
someone else's concept.
You have to find a way to add to it rather than just block it.
It's not, I mean, it's not, every time you say this, I sort of agree
and then also totally don't. I think in almost every scenario, it's viable,
but if you push it to its extremes, it's like. Anything pushed to the extremes is wrong.
There's obviously limits. Yeah, yeah. Yes, but just, I think it's more looking
at the overall pattern of behavior. Are you a no person or are you a yes and person?
Are you an enthusiastic co-contributor or are you an obstruction?
And sometimes you have to be an obstruction for the good of the organization,
for the good of yourself, for the good of the person pitching the idea. Maybe they'd look terrible, you know,
and you gotta save them, right? Hey, I should jump off this bridge.
No, not yes and. Actually, yeah, yes and do it with a parachute.
Yes, and wear a parachute, except you're untrained and don't know what you're doing and you're jumping by yourself.
Okay, fine, yes and do it at a bungee jumping place. Like if you want the thrill of jumping off a bridge,
let's do it, let's do it in the same way. A bungee jumping place doesn't service this bridge.
Well, apply for a permit with the city
and you don't let, hey, where there's a will, there's a way.
I mean, to Tom Cruise, climb the Burj Palifa?
I mean, come on. You just gotta be Tom Cruise.
So dedicate the next couple of decades of your life to becoming a movie star.
And being able to run very iconically. I'm just saying, you know, be a problem solver, in general.
In general. Yes.
Join Scientology.
Oh, no, sorry. No. Get a center tooth.
Say yes and to that Linus, how about that? Where's your,
Yes and infiltrate them from the inside. Disinfect them from the inside.
Boom, got him. All right. Yes.
And? Hell, that's it, the mission accomplished.
It was an impossible mission, but you did it. Congrats.
Up next. Come on, I don't get anything for that. Fine.
Thank you. I proposed to my girlfriend last week.
She said yes. Yay, yay. And I got laid off a few days later.
Oh, shit, I should have read this. There was literally. And then I found a new job in a few days.
Yay. And now my old company wants me back.
No, fuck them. Have you ever had a similar roller coaster of emotions?
I guess besides just now. Oh yeah, definitely the whole, are we getting the channel?
Are we not getting the channel in the early days of LMG? I'm not going to tell the story again,
because we've told it pretty recently, but yes, I have experienced that level
of emotional roller coaster. Oh.
Hey, LDT, Michael here. My, your mic.
Damn, hey, LDT, long time watcher, first time writer.
Love the always on time WAN Show and the vids.
Out of curiosity, how are Linus's braces going?
He said he chose those ones because they'd be off quicker.
Let me put it this way. When the brand found out that I was using them,
they reached out about potentially collaborating. I sent them back a bunch of my feedback on the braces
and I haven't heard from them since. I'm not surprised.
So that's where we're at.
I am happy with the progress of my teeth moving.
However, I am not thrilled with the kind
of micro abrasive surface of these ceramic brackets.
And if anyone had told me that they sit prouder
off the tooth than a traditional metal bracket,
I would have gone for Invisalign or traditional train tracks.
I would not have chosen these. They have caused significant internal damage
to my mouth and it's very difficult for it to heal
because they are so sharp.
Like it's not like, it's not like it rubs.
It's like it, it slices. It's unreal, especially the hook ones
that are for the elastics that go here and here.
I have to get this semi-permanent wax coating
that they cure with the UV light on basically
from behind the canines all the way up on the top
and bottom in order for them to not just shred
the insides of my mouth. And that's even after multiple times,
shredding and scar tissue and shredding and scar tissue.
Like I had braces when I was younger. And my ortho did say that part of it is just being older now
and not healing as fast. But I had train tracks when I was younger
and there's no way that they were this sharp.
They just weren't, they're super sharp.
Hey, LLD, Linus, out of all the projects
you've subjected your home to over the years, which ones had the most unforeseen consequences?
Light switches, my wife hates them so much.
Like I could have said the pool water cooling loop, but I foresaw that that could leak.
Whereas the light switches and my whole family being irritated with me,
I thought they were gonna be a boon. I think we're working within a valley
to do better ones soon. Yeah, stay tuned.
Hello, L to the L to the D. Yeah, I know you know me.
Linus, who is your favorite Bob's Burger character
and why is it Mr. Fish odor? Oh, it's definitely not Mr. Fish odor.
I like Calvin Fish odor, but favorite, oh my God, I mean,
I think Louise is probably my ADHD spirit animal
if I had to pick a Bob's Burger favorite character. She's, yeah, she's amazing.
I finally built my first PC, 9070 XT with a 9070 X,
whilst installing the NHD 15, I slightly gouged the cold plate.
Is this likely to affect cooling or is there any way to test whether this is affecting my cooling?
It is very unlikely to affect cooling. The only time I would think it would be a concern
is if you gouged it enough that a bit of the metal has like peeled up
and it's holding it away from the CPU.
That's the only way that I'd really be concerned. A little scratch in the bottom of your heatsink.
The whole like mirror finish thing is mostly for show.
It's mostly about overall flatness of the mating surfaces.
Will the backpack magnetic chest strap return?
I wanted to get another one for my commuter bag. PS, I'm looking forward to the reading.
I'm looking forward to reading the ABCs of gaming to my daughter when she is born.
Congratulations. I actually have no idea
if the backpack magnetic chest strap is returning. Dan, is this one that we could maybe just forward
to the CW team? Let me... And we could get them an answer that way.
They didn't put their email in there. So I will do that manually
by starting a group chat and then scheduling a message. Oh, no, wait.
Add them.
Okay, I'll just leave that one for there for now.
Let's see. Love the show. With you discussing your recent flight,
I was wondering, is there any new plane or airliner tech
that you find interesting? Oh man, that new supersonic.
So cool. It like doesn't have... Is it actually happening?
It doesn't have sonic booms. Yeah, no, it's like happening. They're like doing test flights and stuff, I thought.
New supersonic. Who makes it? Is it what's the nuts?
The one that's been struggling, Boeing? New supersonic passenger jet.
No, it wasn't them, was it? The boom overture.
Yeah, who makes this thing? I can't remember, but 60 to 80 passengers
at speeds of Mach 1.7 over water
and Mach 1.3 over land to minimize sonic booms.
Is that right? Does that sound right, you guys?
Yeah, if it ever makes it... That thing looks crazy. Dude, right?
Ah! It's like a dart. It's so cool, look at it go!
Ah!
So that's super cool.
Oh, what's their nuts? Is it the 777X that has the way better cabin pressure?
So it's supposed to end better humidity, so it has higher humidity and more cabin pressure,
so it's supposed to significantly reduce jet lag
because part of jet lag is that you're in this slightly deoxygenated environment with thinner air
for an extended period of time, and also there's like no moisture in it
because of the air recycling something, something, et cetera,
because they're bringing in that super high up air and then they're mixing it with the...
I've read an article about how the internal cabin pressure
and climate control works, and then I've kind of forgotten half of it,
so take all of this for the sort of ignorant rambling that it is, but yeah, the 777X seems super cool
if they ever managed to frickin' deliver any of them.
Good luck with that, Boeing. What else is really cool?
Oh, the new global is amazing.
Global 8000, I think it is. Seriously, this thing is wild.
8000 nautical miles, Mach 0.95, and look at it.
Bombardier! Bombardier!
This one's automatically cooler.
I mean, look how cool this guy riding in it is.
I think his trust fund is pretty cool.
Yeah, I don't know. This might be out of trust fund kitty price point range, Luke.
Yeah, this is like a birthday present money. This is, no, no, no, no, this is I invested very well
and made a lot of money. I'm a startup founder for sure
if I have one of these. This is, I found my Bitcoin hard drive.
Yeah, yeah, there, that's the one. That's the Dan found his Bitcoin hard drive.
Sorry, Dan. I think this one's 60 mil or so.
I forget what a global 8000 is worth.
Starting price. Lots of cool stuff happening in aviation right now.
Oh, oh, okay. AI overview says starting price is approximately 78 million.
AI overview, I thought you don't read those. I do if it's the only option.
A lot of the time you, like, it's not like Bombardier puts a freaking MSRP on their site.
So you just have to kind of hope that someone was talking about it somewhere.
Wikipedia has 71 million in 2014.
But wait, what does that doesn't make any sense? The 8000 is new.
Oh yeah, you're gonna trust that AI overview? You know what, who's Luna Jets?
Who are you? Yeah, whatever.
Okay, so these guys are what, like a charter something?
Control F dollar sign. It is expected to enter service in 2025
and comes with a list price of 78 million. Okay, these guys seem maybe somewhat credible.
I don't know though, that's all I got. I've never actually contacted Bombardier.
Yet. What I have done is wear this. That was interesting today.
Wow, the heck was that? I walked through that shoot.
I just don't want to ask questions anymore. One of the new writers.
One of the new writers.
That's what we call. He's got some ideas. That's what we call company perks.
All right, up next. Linus has no reaction.
Hey, Lyme's Lunk and Dawn. I've been hearing a little about GPMI cable
that's being developed in China to replace the USBC standard.
Any thoughts, thanks in advance. I thought it was a display cable.
HDMI replacement. I had a Google about this earlier.
HDMI DisplayPort and USBC replacement. So cool.
It sounds super cool.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we actually talked about this on land like quite a while ago.
Yeah, we did. So there's type B with the proprietary connector,
480 watts, 192 gigabit per second.
And then there's the one that uses the USBC connector,
but USB has so much inertia.
I don't see it.
Chinese, over 50 Chinese member companies, including Huawei, Skyworth, Hisense, and TCL.
Like, okay, but you are actually going to need companies outside of China to sign on to this thing
if you want it to be a global standard. And man, it would suck if Chinese tech had its own standard
for how things plug in that just like didn't work anywhere else in the world.
That would be a downer.
Like how could I buy my giant TCL TV from China for like $9,000 less than the one that I would have
to buy in North America if it used a different display interface?
Luke, think of the spoiled overgrown children.
Won't somebody please think of them?
A Bombardier is. How are the other colors of cargo pants coming along?
I don't know. Were you even doing that?
Did you see that picture of that dude that died his?
I did, that was so cool. It actually looked really good.
Yeah. It looked awesome. Hold on.
Here it is. I used a RIT die.
Yeah. Damn. Those actually look really sharp.
Look and fly, buddy. So there you go.
The progress is do it yourself. What are you lazy?
No, we're working on Navy blue. I just don't know when it's coming.
I would have to check the dock. Okay.
Feel free to do other things while I do that.
Sure. Did I have one in here for Luke?
No. Well, I mean, Luke could answer this. Hi, LLD.
Would you ever want to voice act in anything? A new game, Dispatch,
has many prominent YouTubers like Charlie, Moist Critical.
What would your dream role be? I'd be so down.
I've actually said this before, I would love to. I don't think I have a great voice for it personally,
but I would love to do it. Oh, better than mine.
I don't know. You could be one of those like sidekicks,
like you could do a clap trap or something.
Why are you mean? What did I do to you today?
I think that's actually just a fireball offense to say that.
That's so mean. Why did people call me Jar Jar?
I was gonna say those characters that have playable rights. Hey, you didn't write them.
You didn't write them. It's not your fault.
Yeah, I would love to. I don't know what kind of,
I don't know, probably something angry. I have no idea. Down for whatever though.
Would be great. I hope it happens someday.
I've thought about trying to do like an audio book at some time. I thought that'd be kind of neat.
Film too, multiple times. I have thought that it was gonna happen,
even going as far as shooting apart, but it's never happened.
I don't even need to be paid. It would just be kind of fun to be like the,
you know, the like tech guy who, you know, goes to try to fix your computer
and is like, sorry, it's busted, you know, whatever. Like, or I don't even have to say the line.
You could just like, I could be standing behind the counter in like a geek squad alike
and you could hand me your laptop and I would just turn around and take it into the back or something.
I'd be so down for a bit part.
People are suggesting that I do this. I don't know why. You should consider an audio book version
of the ABCs of gaming. Oh, it's kind of cool.
It hasn't really sold that well though, especially recently. I don't know if it would be,
I don't know if enough people care. It'd be cool though.
It'd be cool though. It'd be kind of neat.
Oh yeah, here we go. Cargo pants, two new colors, Q126.
That's the plan, but nothing's a guarantee when it's like four months away.
Hey, why not DLL? How's the tactics run going?
Just wrapped up my 100% achievement run and loved every second of it.
Nice. I'm on tactician and I'm stuck on the fight
with what's as nuts with the stupid ice gun
that is the second before the last. And I think that I'm feeling pretty down about it
because I screwed up and I got a couple of my flame shields broken.
And so my plan was to use my calculator to just cast fire on everyone
and use that to heal up my side and then also nuke the other side
and just kind of cheese it that way. But because I lost like two of my flame shields
in one of the previous encounters, I don't have enough of them for the rest of my squad.
So I've played a couple times and gotten my butt absolutely handed to me
because on tactician, every opponent gets super juiced up HP
and damage and I get nerfed damage.
And so all these like stupid dragons just rip through me.
Like basically everyone's a one hit sometimes,
like one hit on multiple of my guys
and then jackass with the stupid ice gun
just disables my guys and does whatever he wants from across the map.
So I just, I don't think I'm equipped properly, which means I have to go back like two fights.
I have to lose two fights or two or three fights worth of progress and then like go back to the shop
and grind some stuff and then go back. So I'm a little stuck right now, but.
Maybe I can find a way to cheese it. I'm not sure.
Love the look of the new hoodie. Anno 117, what's your thoughts?
Watched much content about it? I'm really looking forward to it.
I haven't, I haven't played the demo. I haven't watched much content.
I'll play it when it comes out, but I've been playing Final Fantasy Tactics recently.
Beep, bop, boop. Aside from CPUs and headphones coming soon,
what other Labs categories might be coming eventually?
And will Labs do articles slash testing for certain items outside of these categories regularly?
We already do Labs articles outside of those categories
and we will, doing Labs articles specifically
within the categories that we support is not a goal of Labs articles at all.
It's also not a goal to not do articles
about categories that we do support. We just do articles when we think
it makes sense to do articles. If we're inspired to ask a question
or if something is particularly interesting, we'll make an article for it.
That's it. In regards to future verticals
beyond the ones I've already said are coming, I don't really want to commit to those
because plans could change. We'll try not to over promise and deliver on Labs again.
Again. But yeah, sorry, I know that's somewhat of a non-answer.
I am very excited about this stuff and there's been some really, really cool progress made.
I just really don't want to over promise. We've been burned pretty hard by overextending on Labs
and our goal is to stay the course,
stick to the original vision, which is to have data backed,
very entertaining tech content across many channels
that is still the direction for the company.
But we're just going to have to, instead of doing it out in public
where our attack surfaces are larger,
we're just kind of doing it a little more quietly.
Hey, LLD, using that discounted gift card now
instead of saving it. Thoughts on YouTube making greater
than two times playback speed a premium only feature.
Seems kind of silly to me, but maybe it's a bandwidth thing.
I think it's more that it's a thing that most people don't need.
And so if you're one of those special snowflakes that needs this like super, super, super fast playback speed,
then from their perspective, it's like, okay, well then you can just pay for premium
is what I would guess. It's the kind of thing that most people
would not be up in arms over them paywalling. So therefore, they have the flexibility to do it.
Whether that's a right kind of logic,
I don't know that I leave open for debate, but it's clear that there won't be an overwhelming amount
of public pressure on them to make this a free feature.
So they don't have to, would be my guess.
Yeah, I don't think that it's for benefit reasons.
My reason for that is because if you watch a video faster
and you're like min-maxing things like that, you're probably a YouTube enjoyer.
And if you're a YouTube enjoyer and you watch a video faster, you're probably gonna watch another video faster.
And the more videos you watch, the more ads you're served. And realistically, as much as our audience
is extremely high population ad block users,
during the ad block fiasco,
there was a lot of channels that didn't look like they got affected almost at all.
And I think that's probably most of YouTube, to be honest.
Got a bonus at work, oh yeah, sorry.
Got a bonus at work and am treating myself to some LTT merch and a new gaming rig.
Oh, nice. Early on, what was a treat yourself moment as a parent?
I tend to spend more on the kids when I have extra cash.
Oh man, probably my most exciting and fulfilling treat myself
when I was very early in my parenting days
was an NVIDIA SHIELD portable, which originally was just called,
which back when I back in those days was just called NVIDIA SHIELD.
Let me see if I can bring up some images of it.
Here, Linus, boom.
Nope, not tablet. Nope, not that.
What is this? Okay, hold on.
Okay, you know what, hold on one second.
I was at, wait, yeah, we can say where we were
in California, right Luke? The one we went to together? I think so.
Yeah, there's gonna be a video, hopefully. I was at NVIDIA recently and I think it was you
I pointed it out to, the shipping label on something that was addressed to ENVIDIA NVIDIA.
I thought it was IN. Was it? Okay, it was something.
It had a letter before the N. I thought that was cute.
Anywho, NVIDIA Project SHIELD.
Man, look at baby Linus 12 years ago.
Look at this thing. This thing is so cool.
Android handheld. This was the first time we saw in-home game streaming
using the encoder on your gaming systems GPU
to play games at 720p on your little handheld Android device.
I played all of the Tomb Raider reboot,
like the first game on that handheld, all of it.
I never got to touch my desktop because I was always dealing with the kids or holding a kid
or doing something to do with the kid or work because I had a young company too.
And finding ways to still be able to enjoy the hobbies
that you used to have when you have kids is, okay, did I really spend it on myself?
Yes, sort of, but also only because of the kids. Otherwise I could have just sat at my computer.
So that was a treat yourself. And then I also treated myself to a really nice pair of headphones that I'm actually still using today
back in the early days of having kids, my Sennheiser HD 600s.
Although, DMS tells me that Sennheiser has made a candidate
for me to replace them with. I haven't tried them yet though. Yeah, do you have those yet?
No, I don't. My goodness, man. I think I tried them.
Can't remember. They're great. Looking forward to it.
Price to performance. Obscene. Cool.
Hello, wen.dll.
So the same. Linus, when your sleep schedule is as bad
as it's been this week, how do you recenter and get back on track?
Asking for me and my very stressed brain.
You just don't have the luxury of not being on track.
And I know that's kind of a bulls*** answer that you don't really want to hear.
But it's kind of the same. Like, I don't know. I had this conversation very recently at an onsite event.
And I didn't shake hands with anybody. I just like fist bumped.
And they were just like, yeah, I don't know. I just, yeah, I prefer the elbow bump or the fist bump too.
But I just always feel pressured to shake hands. And I'm just like, yeah, well,
there is no getting pressured to shake hands. I can't afford to be sick.
I don't have time to be sick. I don't have time to have my brain not centered.
So what I do when I'm crossing like large time zone differences is I will,
I'll manage my sleep so that I do an extremely long day
so that when I get to where I am, I am wiped at bedtime.
And then you set an alarm. You don't have a choice.
You have to get up in the morning. You make sure you spend time outside. Exercise is really good.
And that's it. There just isn't another option.
And I'm sorry, that's the best answer I have
because it's not fun. I don't want to do it.
But for so many years, like if I'm sick
or I'm out of commission,
like even then when I came back from Asia just now, I technically had like two days booked off
but like I ended up working a lot of them
because I just don't really have that luxury.
So I still timed my sleep so that I would be up during the day, the very next day.
Yeah. PC Master Reyes says, please cover this more.
There's no more that I can really say about it, but
other than yeah, you just gotta be motivated. How about you, Luke?
What was the core question again?
Oh shoot, Dan archived it. How do you get your brain realigned
after having bad sleeps, basically?
Oh. He wants tips for his very stressed brain.
Makes Luke laugh harder. Yeah. I mean, it's just like I, I don't know.
I don't think I like almost ever have a sleep schedule
that's like even sort of reasonable. So it's just sort of a constant state.
I try to do the best I can.
It feels like every time that I'm on a really good streak,
I just get destroyed by something that there was like
no way I could foresee and no way I could avoid other than just deeply shirking responsibilities,
which I'm not going to do.
Yeah. He'd never sleep past like a flight departure time
or anything. Hey, it's been a long time. That's true.
It's actually been a long time. It's actually true.
I don't know what was going on back then, man. I would sleep through so many alarms.
It is not really, it is a problem still, but it's very, very rare.
And it used to be like horrible. But yeah, I don't know.
You just kind of get through it. Obviously you'll be rough that day.
Try to not let it chain. The biggest thing for me is don't let it happen
two days in a row. Don't have a really bad sleep two days in a row
because I can often tank one day of it, but the second it chains even once,
it's like a huge problem.
Yeah, I don't know. And understand that you are operating almost certainly
at effectively a lower IQ when you're like significantly lacking sleep.
Oh yeah. Dude, I mean, they see it on Wansha once in a while
with both of us. Yep. We get like actually kind of dumb.
Yep. And that's like just obviously not a good thing
in any scenario. So like, try to avoid it.
It's a problem for me. I don't know. I don't know, I think we should have more paint.
And lower IQs. I don't know. I think I've talked to you about this,
but I genuinely think that kind of dumber people seem happier in general.
Oh, no, that's a proven... Like they just seem like they don't have the burden
of understanding what's going on. And it seems like it's just kind of easier for them
to just chill and be kind of happy.
Yeah. I'm happy for them, but not really because I understand what's going on.
Yeah.
All right, what's next? Hi, LLD.
What dod you think about the Android XR
and great video with Luke and the Vision Pro? I don't know, man.
It feels like Samsung just will desperately clone
anything that Apple makes, no matter how stupid it is. Like the Vision Pro was such a colossal commercial failure
that I'm surprised they even bothered to bring the Android XR
to market, but yeah, good luck with that.
Dear LLD. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, hold on.
I thought this was the Galaxy XR. Hold on, hold on, Android XR,
you mean the operating system for it?
Yeah, I think it was separate from the VR thing. Oh, sorry, okay. As for Android XR, I've never tried it.
I've never actually tried it. I just thought it was really funny that Apple made a product that nobody really wants
and then immediately Samsung had to make one.
It just, some things never change. The more they change, the more they stay the same.
I also want to say I did see the comments on my video
and I appreciate it a lot.
I read all of them.
I still think it's strange that people care that much,
but I appreciate it. It was heartwarming because I,
and you just said, you thought the video was good. I thought the video was bad.
I was expecting it to get trashed and then everyone was like, oh, it's cool.
So that was, thank you. I think just as a VR enthusiast
who hasn't really played around with the Vision Pro much,
it was really cool to hear your perspective. Like I-
You watched it? I watched about the first four minutes
and I was like, yeah, this is chill. And then I was done reading comments by then.
So then I moved on. But I liked the vibe.
It was good. It was just, it was good energy. Yeah.
Like it was cool. I had fun filming it. And that's the key.
Like that's everything. Like genuinely had a pretty good time filming it,
which was a little bit surprising to me as well.
It felt strange for me because I haven't done short circuits.
That was my first actual ShortCircuit. Yeah, it's just LTT, but like the old style.
But so old. So like it was like kind of familiar,
but in a weird way where like, wait, so much.
I didn't do that form of LTT for that long. I did scripted for a higher percentage of my,
oh, you've been making it. Yeah. But then you started doing short circuits.
I don't know. It was weird. It felt familiar, but like I was doing something wrong
at the same time, if that makes sense. Like I, as I was talking about things,
I was like, man, I should be more prepared for this. I should like have used this for a while.
And then I had to keep reminding myself like, no, no, that's the point of the channel.
Yeah. But it's like, it was weird.
Yeah. Yeah.
Dear LLD. Linus is a retired professional painter.
What is the correct surface finish of paint I should get egg shell or satin for striped paint?
Okay. So I had to look this up. It turns out striped paint is a meme and I'm getting debated.
I'm very confused. R slash explain the joke. Striped paint is a nonsensical product
that doesn't exist. So very funny.
But yeah, there would be no way to do this. That is not a thing.
Good try, but I'm not triggered. Only a little. Just a little bit.
Could you alternate finishes between the stripes?
If you were taking this more seriously. I mean, yeah, you could.
Like I could see if it would actually give you kind of a cool effect because you'd have,
it would make the flatter one look more like it's kind of in the background.
And then the glossier one would look like it kind of pops a little bit more
and it would catch the light a little bit more. So you could do that.
What about checkered paint?
Dan, tartan paint. What do you, tartan? What does tartan even mean?
Is that a sauce? Sauce for fish?
Tartan paint. What am I looking at here?
He get, what? It's a pattern. What is this? Is this an English thing?
R slash ask okay. Tartan is just. He gets given a tub of red paint
with tartan written on the lid. Tartan is just a pattern.
The Apprentice gets a licking for shaking the what?
Oh, like on a Scottish kilt.
That's the pattern, yeah, tartan. Yeah, tartan paint. What is all these paint memes?
I wasn't even memeing with that one. Anywho, the last one I've got for you.
I'm tired too. Hey, DLL question for Linus.
What's one decision LMG made that you didn't like
but ultimately proved to be good in the end?
I didn't like, I mean, what did I didn't like?
I can think of at least one. Okay, hit me. You're not gonna like it.
Well, I mean, it ended up being good in the end though. I think so.
Okay. In my opinion. Yeah, hit me. Not using go XLRs on Lin.
Oh, okay. In the end is doing a lot of heavy lifting here though
because in the interim, it would have been pretty great.
For a long time that we had a lot of audio issues that could have been solved through it
while we perfected this system. You got to learn things, dude.
Yeah. I can't even remember what you had in here before. Oh my God, it was a nightmare.
It was some eight channel, something, something. Oh God, it was a nightmare. It was like a laptop on a cart.
It worked for one week. And then like they came and like helped us set it up
and that was really great and it was awesome and it worked and then it didn't work ever again
because I am too dumb to fix it.
Basically. That's the fix it either.
That's a, yeah, well. Wenshaw's curse, dude. Yeah.
Wenshaw's curse. I got rid of the goats. I got rid of the ghosts. I would come in.
Yeah, Dan operating it seems to be working, which is great, but like I would go home
back when I was streaming and stream a bunch
the entire week and never have an issue ever just like go live and everything would work perfectly.
And then I'd come to work and we try to do land
and it would never work. And I would try to fix it as the person
who streamed all week, no problem. It could never fix it.
It didn't matter. We could replace the entire system, replace all the auto, replace the entire computer,
all the software, reinstall everything.
To be fair, I think the ghosts moved to Sebastian's workstation.
We've changed it many, many times. Have you, did you see the picture of his like teams?
The teams icon on his taskbar was upside down.
Which I didn't even know was a thing that was possible.
I don't know if he's memeing on me, but like ghosts. Yeah, at what point are you just getting trolled?
I don't think he has the bone in his body to do that,
but wow, that poor man.
So 10 years of ghosts went over to him.
All right, I think that's it for this week.
We will see you guys again next week. Same bad time, maybe a little earlier next week.
Could we manage a little earlier next week? We can definitely manage a little earlier next week.
Let's do it. Let's do it for that. Same bad channel.
Bye.
Seriously, that's the one there, war NT.
It's so lonely.