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Wait! That's my car!

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Wait, what am I doing?

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Whether it's calling my order number, my court reservation, or my license plate number,

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I can never understand what they're saying over the PA system.

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Surely in a world where headphones can be wireless and we can cancel out background noise on a zoom call like magic,

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it can't be that hard to build a building speaker setup that's actually clear.

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Oh, yes, it can. But we can do it, right? I mean, of course.

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But first we have to segue. To our sponsor.

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When we first checked out this space, the echo in here was absolutely mind-blowing.

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But as you can hear, it's quite a lot better now.

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We've talked before about how we've sound-treated our studio, our lab,

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and even our workshop to keep reverb and other unpleasantness out of our recordings.

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And we started with a pretty similar approach here at our Badminton Gym Slash Land Gaming Center,

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which, by the way, huge update! We heard back from the city we're actually going to be able to do whale land! Let's go!

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Starting with the ceilings, we switched away from our usual cellulose-based spray on foam

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and went with a fiberglass spray on acoustic treatment.

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It does still add a little bit of insulation, which is always a good thing,

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but the most important factors were the fact that it goes on a little thinner.

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It's a little easier to paint, so we didn't end up with that ugly color from the lab again.

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And, maybe most importantly, it is less susceptible to damage and mold in the event that moisture seeps into it.

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This stuff is great because its porosity and uneven surface act to absorb and scatter any incoming sound waves,

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significantly reducing reflections between the floor and the ceiling.

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But, unfortunately, we couldn't spray that material all the way down the walls

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and expect it to hold up to flying birdies, bags, and bodies,

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or even just people getting bored and picking the foam off the walls while they wait for their next match.

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Fortunately, the solution was right under our noses, or rather our backs.

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We already had our eye on these gym mats to provide a sturdy but comfortable backrest

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for folks who are sitting on our customized, storage-friendly benches.

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And as it turns out, they do a pretty solid job of attenuating many of the problem frequencies

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that like to bounce around forever in a space like this.

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So, two birdies, one stone, and all of that.

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The multi-layer sprung floor and foam and vinyl topper that we installed

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also contribute to echo reduction, but not as much as the other factors.

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To demonstrate how effective this ended up being, instead of using my lab microphone,

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we're going to switch over to the iPhone 16 Plus that Jordan's holding over there.

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Back when we started, you wouldn't have been able to make out a bloody word that I was saying from back here.

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But now, it's downright usable. Not great, but usable.

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We're starting off in a much better place, but before we can start blasting amplified sound

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into our big concrete cavern, we need to make some careful considerations

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to make sure that every visitor can hear about the limited-time offer on left-handed badminton rackets

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while also keeping the system intuitive and customizable for staff.

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Now, there's a lot of options out there, but for a variety of reasons,

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a lot of them won't work for us. For starters, there's the traditional PA.

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These are affordable, super easy to set up.

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I mean, all you need is a hammer microphone, a cable, a mixer,

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and it doesn't need to be a fancy one like this, and a powered speaker.

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And boom, you're off to the races. In fact, it's pretty intelligible all the way from this end of the facility to the other.

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The only problem is, in order to make it so that Jordan can hear what Dan's saying,

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go ahead, Dan. Hey, Jordan, how you doing?

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You're basically blasting my ears off.

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It's not balanced. Can you hear this okay, Jordan?

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Yes. Yes, we can hear you. I mean, I think Jordan can barely hear this.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, Dan. Obviously, we could relocate this entire setup pretty easily for better balance,

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or we could wire up the entire facility with audio cable

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and have it all come back to a central location, but that's going to cost us some flexibility,

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because the best place for, let's say, a tournament draw desk

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or for a land knock are not necessarily going to be the same places.

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We needed more flexibility. Another option was a constant voltage system.

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They're commonly 70 volts in North America and 100 volts in Europe,

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but the voltage isn't important. What's important is you have a bunch of in-ceiling speakers that'll look kind of like this

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and they'll run background music, the occasional announcement, that sort of thing.

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This is typically what you'll find in doctor's offices, classrooms, restaurants, and the like.

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These systems can cover long distances with very thin, inexpensive wire,

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thanks to their high voltage, but are not known to have great sound quality,

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certainly not worthy of crab rave. And besides, what is this, the Stone Age?

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Why wouldn't we use Ethernet? With Ethernet, we can have high-fidelity audio.

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We don't have to run snakes and low-voltage audio cables.

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We can just use standard network cabling,

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and that means we can put speakers all over the place,

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keeping each individual speaker relatively quiet, improving clarity.

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we can use switching to kind of tap into it from anywhere

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and have modularity and configurability,

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so you can address one side of the building, the other side of the building, or the whole freaking building.

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There's only one small problem. Everyone and their dog has their own platform and protocols

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that are various degrees of proprietary.

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What we thought, until then, found Dante,

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which is built on previous AOE and AOIP tech.

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It's got wide manufacturer support. There's about 350 companies that are licensed right now,

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Ah, I knew there was going to be a catch. Yeah, you pay the Dante tax.

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But Dante Controller lets you configure the routing,

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so you wanted modularity and ease of use.

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Yeah, ease of use was pretty big. We want it to be something that any random staffer can use.

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I don't want to be here when there's a little problem

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or to change the levels or anything like that. Especially because it could be at a LAN at three in the morning.

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Exactly. Can we configure it for like one-button presets?

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I'll show you what I've done. Good, Lord, I thought you said this was simple.

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We ended up going with Q-Sys mostly because of the end of it is simple,

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but setting it up in the configuration is what makes it complicated.

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I've always said you need complexity to make things simple.

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To get the one-button and to get it easy for staff and to get it configurable,

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we have to have this mess of nodes and flows and things like that,

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especially as we've got loads of endpoints. We have about 30 speakers, we have wireless microphones,

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and maybe we do want to do a traditional PA when we do LANs.

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Cool, but theoretically it works?

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It does. It's in production right now. They've been using it for the afternoon badminton sessions.

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Okay. Oh, wow. So it's working then?

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Yes. Both mics work at the same time.

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Maybe a little loud here. Wow, that's cool. And I've made it so that the volume of the mics is adjustable.

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So it balances the level. So it keeps everything consistent.

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So Linus can scream and nervous LAN participants who have just won something

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and get to talk to their idol. It's all a very consistent level.

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Show me how we can cordon off a section and turn it off.

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Right here I've got these volume ramps. And so by toggling off, you know, the courts or the bathrooms or something like that,

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it'll take a section of speakers and dim them down to nothing or bring them back up.

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because say you're playing music in the background, you unmute it,

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the whole courts get blasted. So it's even got a ramp uptime as well.

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So when you unmute it, it comes up nice and softly and slowly

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and then ramps up to where it needs to be. It's great.

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Okay. In the long term, could we have like a little, I don't know, a stream deck or something

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where you could like toggle on different sections of the building?

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and we could eventually do that for any zone that we want.

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Jim, the lounge upstairs, everything like that.

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Eventually what we'll have is a little iPad that they can carry around

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and pick what zones they want or if they want to switch over to LAN mode,

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it'll kind of be a button and that'll adjust a whole bunch of things.

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But as it stands right now, I just have a very basic interface.

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Oh yeah, basic. Yeah, no, this is not like the user interface.

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This is the user interface that I've made right now.

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I didn't spend a lot of time on it. And as you can see, it's only like three buttons.

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So we can toggle if the court is enabled.

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When you're playing badminton and things like that, it can be a nice background level.

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which basically takes the entire courts up to their maximum volume

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that I think is a pretty damn loud.

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Can we hear it? Sure, let's do it. You want some crab rave?

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Yeah, let's do it. While Dan's getting them going, now's as good a time as any

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to show you the speakers that we ended up using. They're from SoundTube and they are power over Ethernet,

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meaning that all we need to have is a PoE switch.

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And boom, you can have an amplified speaker anywhere you can run an Ethernet cable.

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So on this side of the court, we've actually got, I think it's nine of them.

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Go ahead, Dan. Realistically, we'd love to add a little bit more acoustic dampening

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to the ends of the building. And there are still some things that Dan can tune within the software

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to help compensate for the echoeyness of the space.

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But you can see as I move around, this is actually pretty usable.

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Crank it up, Dan. Let's go.

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You can definitely tell when you're closer to one of the speakers.

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But there's so many that you're pretty much always close to one.

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Another thing that I've implemented as well is automatic ducking.

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So I can talk into the microphone and do my announcements,

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and then when I stop...

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Hey! Now that's pretty cool.

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It's also time-bound as well, so it's not down and up and down and up.

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Freaking loud. Like, what the heck?

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To kind of prevent it from getting super loud. Yeah.

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You know, I hook up my phone. I set it to 100% volume.

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It doesn't destroy the whole speakers and everything like that.

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I've got a leveling system for the phone input as well.

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So if you're playing it super quiet out in the lobby,

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it's all going to be a consistent volume. Wait, we can just like connect our phone to it?

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I have it Bluetooth to my laptop right now. The adapter I have is Bluetooth.

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These are sure beta-58 wireless mics,

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and the thing is that they're... the receiver's stuffed under a door in the kind of court area right at the front.

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They reach all the way to the back on both courts, and you don't have to think about it.

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Then when we come in to do LANs, we can be on site,

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we can do more weird things. This is just the most basic setup.

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Super easy to do. Thanks Q-Sys, I guess.

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Oh, did they hook us up with software? No, it's just...

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No, it's perpetual licenses. We did have to pay for a whole bunch of licenses,

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like a Dante channel upgrade. Right now, I think we have 16 transmit flows.

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So I have 16 zones, including both bathrooms,

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and each side of the speakers are on different zones.

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We've got four along the left, four along the right, four for the hanging speakers,

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and then court concession in both bathrooms. So is this the kind of installation that Dante is for?

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between the stage, the mixer, position, and speakers,

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but in this setup, we're doing things a little bit different. There's no mixer at all.

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Right, because we're using Q-Sys. Exactly. So Q-Sys is a network-manageable audio-video and control program.

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Right, so we just don't need a mixer. Exactly. It does it all in the box.

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Tell me this, though. Does Dante have any special requirements from your network equipment?

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Like, can I just plug it into anything? Yeah, not from the switching side.

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It does have extremely specific, like, transmit protocols

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that need to be followed, often requiring an entire separate network to be run

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so that it doesn't go over your normal local traffic.

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Is it a latency issue? Latency issue and a traffic issue as well.

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You need very specific packet switching. Okay, but our Unify stuff does it?

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It does now, up until extremely recently,

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Unify was one of the only companies that you could not use Dante with.

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Oh, and yet? And yet. They have released some Alpha version right now

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which supports Q-Sys, Dante, Crestron,

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all of those sort of switching protocols. And you can actually see our RGB switches here.

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The ones in this greeny yellow are a specific Dante VLAN that we have set up.

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RGB network switches. Who knew it would actually be very practical?

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It's actually quite useful. So this is a completely separate VLAN

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which basically carries all of our audio traffic.

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Theoretically, all we need to do to plug one of these guys in

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is just slap it in here to any PoE port

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and then it'll activate and if it's on the right VLAN

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then now you've got two analog inputs.

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Yep, there you go. Wow. So that's actually a camera.

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So it's not gonna work. I am watching you.

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Stop it. These dongles. I couldn't help noticing we have a lot of them we're not using right now.

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What is the plan for these? These are all for the LAN eventually.

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For example, this is one that we're using downstairs for the microphone.

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So this is a stereo XLR in. This one here is a stereo XLR out.

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So we could have a traditional backline on a stage or something like that

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and then feed the entire system directly into some big speakers.

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The nice thing about Dante in particular in these

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is I can preconfigure them in whatever port I want

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and then all I do is I plug them into the network and they self-assemble.

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That is so cool. They're all addressed and they have controls on them too.

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So when Chase is just rolling out LAN equipment

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all he needs to know is this goes there

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and boom, it's ready to go. Exactly.

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Super sick. This one here is USB-C.

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Oh, so it's blue. It goes in and out. It's two-way communication.

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So this is, I believe, a dual stereo pair.

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The one that we have downstairs is Bluetooth and there's a whole bunch of different ins and outs

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because Dante is kind of just a standard

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and then companies can put it in whatever they want.

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It's pretty neat. How much did it cost?

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So this entire setup with all of these adapters

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and about 30 speakers was about 20 grand, I believe.

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That is great. Guys, you have no idea the kinds of quotes

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that I got from like audio contractors and obviously we spent more than $20,000 total

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when we consider the time that our infrastructure team

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and Dan spent implementing this.

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I think we're still out ahead, though. Absolutely.

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And all we had to do was run Ethernet cable and the adaptability pays for itself.

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Yeah. It can be changed anytime we want.

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It can be in any port in this building. That is so cool.

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You just need PoE. Like we could add a PA to the office up here.

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All we'd have to do is make sure that that port is running to a PoE switch and then boom.

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And this one is. So now we have a microphone in Jim's office.

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It's as easy as that. It's so cool. I know.

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I mean, we may have to switch a VLAN around, but that's mostly for security, right?

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That's really cool. Like this cool segue to our sponsor.

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that Dan and the team and I were frantically working on this place.

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But hey, it's almost done, right? It feels so together, right?

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Like look at this. We got like access control and all the doors and everything.

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Does that work yet? Yes. Everything's in.
