WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.880 These I was expecting. We've got the OnePlus 12 and 12 R 00:00:03.880 --> 00:00:08.280 with OnePlus proudly displaying their never settle slogan 00:00:08.280 --> 00:00:12.000 and talking a lot about a return to their flagship killer roots. 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:17.680 What I wasn't expecting is this, a 50 watt wireless charger. 00:00:17.680 --> 00:00:23.880 This thing will charge wirelessly faster than most phones charge over a wire. 00:00:23.880 --> 00:00:30.160 Even many flagships like, oh, I don't know, the iPhone 15 and the Samsung S24 Ultra. 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:34.280 We're gonna get to that in a minute. Let's start with the OnePlus 12. 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:39.800 They have absolutely packed this thing with kind of jaw-dropping claims. 00:00:39.800 --> 00:00:45.360 Oh, wow, is that ever gorgeous? Geez, Oppo has always pushed the envelope 00:00:45.360 --> 00:00:49.800 when it comes to the design of their backs. Sorry, they have packed this thing with features 00:00:49.800 --> 00:00:55.840 with everything from 80 watt wired charging with their super VOOC technology, which no way. 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:59.400 They actually include a capable charger in the box. 00:00:59.400 --> 00:01:03.160 What an idea, to 50 watt wireless charging 00:01:03.160 --> 00:01:08.160 to a claimed peak brightness of 4,500 nits 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.600 on their OLED display. Now, we weren't able to measure that 00:01:11.600 --> 00:01:14.880 outside of the developer menu where they have a peak brightness test 00:01:14.880 --> 00:01:19.040 and then you can shine a bright flashlight into the ambient light sensor 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:24.600 in order to get it to hit that number. OnePlus also claimed 20 hours of YouTube playback, 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.720 which this phone completely annihilated. 00:01:27.720 --> 00:01:31.640 We saw almost 28 hours of playback in YouTube 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:35.280 at 200 nits display brightness. Wow. 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:39.160 On the outside of the phone, we've got the usual suspects with our lock button, volume rocker. 00:01:39.160 --> 00:01:45.400 Does this thing have an IRE knitter? Super cool. Amplified earpiece speaker and bottom speaker SIM slot 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:51.200 and USB-C charging port, along with OnePlus's trademark notification slider. 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:56.280 Yeah, gotta love to see it. And on the inside, it's got the latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 processor 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:00.000 with OnePlus's biggest vapor chamber cooler to date. 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.200 They're saying it's about 14 square inches in area, which is pretty wild 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:08.840 when you consider the overall size of the device. OnePlus says this contributes to both 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:12.120 the cooling of the screen and cooling of the SoC, 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:17.520 but we'll get to this in a little bit more detail later. We found that having a bigger vapor chamber 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:22.840 doesn't necessarily help you avoid thermal throttling if you don't add any kind of active cooling 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:28.000 to the outside of the device. The cameras are another big area of focus for OnePlus. 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:33.200 That is a sizable camera bump, but far from the deepest one that I've seen lately, 00:02:33.200 --> 00:02:36.880 it's pretty manageable. And we're looking at a 50 megapixel main shooter 00:02:36.880 --> 00:02:42.680 with a 64 megapixel periscope telephoto and a 48 megapixel ultra-wide. 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:47.560 That is a really fast lens on the main shooter too. F1.6 with optical image stabilization. 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:53.160 I actually have pretty high expectations for this. The one area where OnePlus has really struggled 00:02:53.160 --> 00:02:57.760 for me in the past has been video, but in terms of photo, like, man, that's responsive. 00:02:57.760 --> 00:03:02.080 That's a ton of dynamic range. Like I really just don't really know what I would complain about. 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.160 Stutter though as I'm panning around. 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:09.920 Yeah, it's no iPhone, is it? It's not bad, but it's no iPhone. 00:03:09.920 --> 00:03:14.760 There's one thing that you gotta give to Apple. God, does video ever look good on the iPhone? 00:03:14.760 --> 00:03:17.840 Excuse me, excuse me, on iPhone. 00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:23.640 Inside the phone, we've got Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 5.4. 00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:28.280 12. Or 16 gigs of RAM with 256 or 512 gigs of storage, 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:31.600 and Corning Victus 2 glass with an aluminum frame. 00:03:31.600 --> 00:03:36.520 Enough about the 12. Because the 12, okay, flagship killer, I guess, 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:40.520 now that flagships are $1,200 US, 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:44.840 the 12R is the one that I think is gonna be in a more interesting price band 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:49.920 for many of our viewers today. It's got a lot of the same goodness as the 12. 00:03:49.920 --> 00:03:54.080 It's got that same 4,500 nit peak brightness 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:59.080 on its also LTPO, 120 Hertz AMOLED display for that. 00:03:59.920 --> 00:04:03.800 Oh, so butter smoothness. It's got the same number of cameras, 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:09.160 but they have been downgraded a touch. It's got the same support for 80 watt 00:04:09.200 --> 00:04:13.360 super-vooc charging, including an included charging brick, 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:17.640 which is really nice to see, but it's got a bit of a smaller screen 00:04:17.640 --> 00:04:23.140 and some other unexpected exclusions. No wireless charging, although that does come with a benefit. 00:04:23.140 --> 00:04:26.420 You actually get a 100 milliamp hour larger battery 00:04:26.420 --> 00:04:30.640 in the 12R, and that did result in real world games and battery life. 00:04:30.640 --> 00:04:35.040 This thing saw almost 30 hours of battery life 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:39.760 in our YouTube playback test. That is flipping impressive, but the bigger one 00:04:39.760 --> 00:04:42.800 is that it uses the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:48.960 It is using a last generation chipset. However, as we saw in our performance testing, 00:04:48.960 --> 00:04:53.020 this might not be as big of a deal to you as you might think. 00:04:53.020 --> 00:04:58.720 As it turns out, in our benchmark suite, which admittedly at this point is gonna need some upgrading, 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:04.340 the real world difference in performance is almost negligible because we are more often capped 00:05:04.340 --> 00:05:09.980 by the frame rate limiter of the applications that we are running than by the performance of the SOC. 00:05:09.980 --> 00:05:14.740 Another thing that we noticed when we were doing our performance testing was that in our stress test, 00:05:14.740 --> 00:05:18.620 the 12 actually thermal throttled so much 00:05:18.620 --> 00:05:23.060 that even though it scores much higher in synthetic benchmarks like 3D Mark, 00:05:23.060 --> 00:05:27.300 when you run them over and over and over again, it throttles down to performance 00:05:27.300 --> 00:05:32.180 that is only about 10% higher. So if you're a hardcore mobile gamer 00:05:32.180 --> 00:05:36.220 and you're gonna be playing for hours at a time, real world difference in performance 00:05:36.220 --> 00:05:40.100 might not be that much. Now, some of that can be accounted for 00:05:40.100 --> 00:05:45.860 by the slightly higher resolution of the OnePlus 12's screen, but not all of it. 00:05:45.860 --> 00:05:51.160 It does have the same Victus 2 glass covering, but what it doesn't have is the same storage options. 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:55.620 It's only available with 128 or 256 gigs of storage. 00:05:55.620 --> 00:06:00.820 I also haven't really tried the camera yet. I can already tell these cameras are not as good. 00:06:00.820 --> 00:06:04.300 It looks like I've got something on the lens, but I did not. 00:06:06.700 --> 00:06:10.740 Stills are all right though. Yeah, stills are all right. 00:06:10.740 --> 00:06:15.660 That video quality though. And I haven't even tried the Ultra Wide yet. 00:06:15.660 --> 00:06:19.940 It's only eight megapixels. That's one of the biggest downgrades 00:06:19.940 --> 00:06:26.660 over the OnePlus 11 because otherwise on paper, the 12R looks like an amazing choice compared to the 11. 00:06:26.660 --> 00:06:33.140 They've got very similar specs other than we get upgraded glass, a bigger battery, faster charging. 00:06:33.140 --> 00:06:40.160 Ooh, there is one small little bugbear. OnePlus originally said that the 12R had UFS 4.0 support 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:45.060 for its storage, but it's actually 3.1. So that's a downgrade over a OnePlus 11 00:06:45.060 --> 00:06:49.300 if you could get a deal on one of those. But other than that, man, I think the cameras are the biggest deal 00:06:49.300 --> 00:06:54.100 and I don't know about you guys, but the only time I ever use my Ultra Wide camera 00:06:54.100 --> 00:06:58.820 is when I wanna take a picture of a room and like put markup on it. 00:06:58.820 --> 00:07:02.780 Like honestly, that's the only thing I think I've ever used it for is like, 00:07:02.780 --> 00:07:06.460 yeah, here's a picture of this room. We're going to IKEA. 00:07:06.460 --> 00:07:11.500 I'm gonna write some measurements and like where those spots are so that I can remember what my room looks like 00:07:11.500 --> 00:07:14.660 when I'm walking around in that labyrinthian store. 00:07:14.660 --> 00:07:18.180 It's like, it feels like you're in there for so long you don't even know what year it is 00:07:18.180 --> 00:07:23.180 or where you live anymore. Both phones are only rated for IP65 water resistance, 00:07:23.180 --> 00:07:28.240 which is a little in the weaker side for a modern device, but they've got something water related 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:33.120 that is pretty darn cool. OnePlus has something that they're calling AquaTouch. 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:37.120 I'm sorry, what is this? HyperTouch algorithm makes it like work better 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:40.960 when the screen is wet. I've been provided with a spritzer bottle 00:07:40.960 --> 00:07:43.440 and I guess I'll attempt to type a message. 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.400 I mean, that seems like pretty good, right? Let's go for accuracy, okay? 00:07:50.400 --> 00:07:55.800 Give me a hundred character sentence, go. Subscribe to short. 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.960 Oops, that was me. Circuit. 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:04.280 That is pretty darn good. It's bang on. 00:08:05.960 --> 00:08:09.920 I like it. Here we go. I mean, what could go wrong? 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:14.000 Oh boy. Well, that's something. 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:20.480 I can't even get a text box. Hello, I am typing. 00:08:21.640 --> 00:08:26.520 Oh, and we lost it. Yeah, that's pretty much the experience I have 00:08:26.520 --> 00:08:30.760 whenever my hands are wet in the tub. We're down to 34%, 00:08:30.760 --> 00:08:34.920 which means it's time to try 50 watt wireless charging. 00:08:34.920 --> 00:08:39.720 And what I'm really interested in is what's shaken with our charger here. 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.080 We're at 30 watts from the wall. There will be quite a bit of inefficiency 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:48.960 going from AC to DC, then from TC to magnetic induction charging. 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:53.200 Is that it? It's going down. 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.280 Airboop charging, buddy. This isn't the only thing 00:08:56.280 --> 00:09:00.280 we weren't able to see working the way OnePlus said. They're frame interpolation technology. 00:09:00.280 --> 00:09:03.480 We just couldn't get it working and they're on Chinese New Year right now. 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.520 So they were like, oh, we can't really look into this. So your mileage may vary on that as well. 00:09:07.520 --> 00:09:12.680 But 27 watts from the wall, that means realistically, we're probably only getting about 20 watts here. 00:09:12.680 --> 00:09:18.320 It's possible that it'll only do that kind of speed from 0%, but we're at 35. 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.200 I think it's a pretty reasonable expectation that it would charge pretty fast 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:25.280 when it's at 35%. Oh, there's one more thing. 00:09:25.280 --> 00:09:31.880 We haven't checked out the speakers yet. Oh my God, Google, this was such a mistake. 00:09:31.880 --> 00:09:36.200 What is any of this? Remember when the mail icon was red? 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:42.080 So you could actually tell what the hell it was. And when maps was a map, sorry, sorry, sorry. 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.240 This is not OnePlus's fault. 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:52.160 100% on Google. A little bright, but a big part of the problem 00:09:52.160 --> 00:09:55.320 is how loud I have it. I wouldn't normally need this at 100%. 00:09:58.520 --> 00:10:00.680 It's really good. Yeah, it's really clean. 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:07.000 How about the 12R? Amplified earpiece speaker. Nice to see that on a budget phone. 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.960 This is still an expensive phone, but it's a little thing that is often cheaped out on. 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.400 If there's a downgrade here, it's not gonna affect you too much. I'd say they're not quite as bright, 00:10:20.400 --> 00:10:23.880 but they're still really loud and clear enough 00:10:23.880 --> 00:10:28.440 that you're gonna be able to enjoy pretty much anything you would wanna enjoy on your phone speakers. 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:32.080 And otherwise you're just gonna wanna get out your earphones or whatever the case may be. 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:35.400 Now it's time for the hard question. Which one would I choose? 00:10:35.400 --> 00:10:40.400 $300 less, but that does come with a capacity downgrade here. 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:48.320 Not to mention, of course, the spec downgrade. Or $300 more, but of course with more capacity, 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.880 more performance and bursty loads in particular. I think this just comes down to your budget 00:10:52.880 --> 00:10:57.040 and what kind of deal you're gonna get from your carrier. As someone who takes a lot of pictures of my kids, 00:10:57.040 --> 00:11:01.320 I am really not liking, not having a decent camera on my phone right now. 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.600 And I'd say that that could be something that could push me over the edge to the 12. 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:09.560 But I wanna hear from you guys in the comments. 12 or 12R or something else entirely? 00:11:09.560 --> 00:11:13.120 Whatever it is, I don't care. As long as you're subscribed to ShortCircuit.