1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,880 These I was expecting. We've got the OnePlus 12 and 12 R 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,280 with OnePlus proudly displaying their never settle slogan 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,000 and talking a lot about a return to their flagship killer roots. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:17,680 What I wasn't expecting is this, a 50 watt wireless charger. 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:23,880 This thing will charge wirelessly faster than most phones charge over a wire. 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:30,160 Even many flagships like, oh, I don't know, the iPhone 15 and the Samsung S24 Ultra. 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,280 We're gonna get to that in a minute. Let's start with the OnePlus 12. 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,800 They have absolutely packed this thing with kind of jaw-dropping claims. 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:45,360 Oh, wow, is that ever gorgeous? Geez, Oppo has always pushed the envelope 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,800 when it comes to the design of their backs. Sorry, they have packed this thing with features 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:55,840 with everything from 80 watt wired charging with their super VOOC technology, which no way. 12 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,400 They actually include a capable charger in the box. 13 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,160 What an idea, to 50 watt wireless charging 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:08,160 to a claimed peak brightness of 4,500 nits 15 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,600 on their OLED display. Now, we weren't able to measure that 16 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,880 outside of the developer menu where they have a peak brightness test 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,040 and then you can shine a bright flashlight into the ambient light sensor 18 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,600 in order to get it to hit that number. OnePlus also claimed 20 hours of YouTube playback, 19 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,720 which this phone completely annihilated. 20 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,640 We saw almost 28 hours of playback in YouTube 21 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,280 at 200 nits display brightness. Wow. 22 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,160 On the outside of the phone, we've got the usual suspects with our lock button, volume rocker. 23 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:45,400 Does this thing have an IRE knitter? Super cool. Amplified earpiece speaker and bottom speaker SIM slot 24 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:51,200 and USB-C charging port, along with OnePlus's trademark notification slider. 25 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Yeah, gotta love to see it. And on the inside, it's got the latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 processor 26 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,000 with OnePlus's biggest vapor chamber cooler to date. 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,200 They're saying it's about 14 square inches in area, which is pretty wild 28 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,840 when you consider the overall size of the device. OnePlus says this contributes to both 29 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,120 the cooling of the screen and cooling of the SoC, 30 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:17,520 but we'll get to this in a little bit more detail later. We found that having a bigger vapor chamber 31 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,840 doesn't necessarily help you avoid thermal throttling if you don't add any kind of active cooling 32 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:28,000 to the outside of the device. The cameras are another big area of focus for OnePlus. 33 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,200 That is a sizable camera bump, but far from the deepest one that I've seen lately, 34 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,880 it's pretty manageable. And we're looking at a 50 megapixel main shooter 35 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:42,680 with a 64 megapixel periscope telephoto and a 48 megapixel ultra-wide. 36 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,560 That is a really fast lens on the main shooter too. F1.6 with optical image stabilization. 37 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:53,160 I actually have pretty high expectations for this. The one area where OnePlus has really struggled 38 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,760 for me in the past has been video, but in terms of photo, like, man, that's responsive. 39 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,080 That's a ton of dynamic range. Like I really just don't really know what I would complain about. 40 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,160 Stutter though as I'm panning around. 41 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,920 Yeah, it's no iPhone, is it? It's not bad, but it's no iPhone. 42 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:14,760 There's one thing that you gotta give to Apple. God, does video ever look good on the iPhone? 43 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,840 Excuse me, excuse me, on iPhone. 44 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:23,640 Inside the phone, we've got Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 5.4. 45 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:28,280 12. Or 16 gigs of RAM with 256 or 512 gigs of storage, 46 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,600 and Corning Victus 2 glass with an aluminum frame. 47 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Enough about the 12. Because the 12, okay, flagship killer, I guess, 48 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,520 now that flagships are $1,200 US, 49 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,840 the 12R is the one that I think is gonna be in a more interesting price band 50 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,920 for many of our viewers today. It's got a lot of the same goodness as the 12. 51 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,080 It's got that same 4,500 nit peak brightness 52 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:59,080 on its also LTPO, 120 Hertz AMOLED display for that. 53 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:03,800 Oh, so butter smoothness. It's got the same number of cameras, 54 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,160 but they have been downgraded a touch. It's got the same support for 80 watt 55 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,360 super-vooc charging, including an included charging brick, 56 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,640 which is really nice to see, but it's got a bit of a smaller screen 57 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:23,140 and some other unexpected exclusions. No wireless charging, although that does come with a benefit. 58 00:04:23,140 --> 00:04:26,420 You actually get a 100 milliamp hour larger battery 59 00:04:26,420 --> 00:04:30,640 in the 12R, and that did result in real world games and battery life. 60 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,040 This thing saw almost 30 hours of battery life 61 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,760 in our YouTube playback test. That is flipping impressive, but the bigger one 62 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,800 is that it uses the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. 63 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:48,960 It is using a last generation chipset. However, as we saw in our performance testing, 64 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,020 this might not be as big of a deal to you as you might think. 65 00:04:53,020 --> 00:04:58,720 As it turns out, in our benchmark suite, which admittedly at this point is gonna need some upgrading, 66 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:04,340 the real world difference in performance is almost negligible because we are more often capped 67 00:05:04,340 --> 00:05:09,980 by the frame rate limiter of the applications that we are running than by the performance of the SOC. 68 00:05:09,980 --> 00:05:14,740 Another thing that we noticed when we were doing our performance testing was that in our stress test, 69 00:05:14,740 --> 00:05:18,620 the 12 actually thermal throttled so much 70 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:23,060 that even though it scores much higher in synthetic benchmarks like 3D Mark, 71 00:05:23,060 --> 00:05:27,300 when you run them over and over and over again, it throttles down to performance 72 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:32,180 that is only about 10% higher. So if you're a hardcore mobile gamer 73 00:05:32,180 --> 00:05:36,220 and you're gonna be playing for hours at a time, real world difference in performance 74 00:05:36,220 --> 00:05:40,100 might not be that much. Now, some of that can be accounted for 75 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:45,860 by the slightly higher resolution of the OnePlus 12's screen, but not all of it. 76 00:05:45,860 --> 00:05:51,160 It does have the same Victus 2 glass covering, but what it doesn't have is the same storage options. 77 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,620 It's only available with 128 or 256 gigs of storage. 78 00:05:55,620 --> 00:06:00,820 I also haven't really tried the camera yet. I can already tell these cameras are not as good. 79 00:06:00,820 --> 00:06:04,300 It looks like I've got something on the lens, but I did not. 80 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:10,740 Stills are all right though. Yeah, stills are all right. 81 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:15,660 That video quality though. And I haven't even tried the Ultra Wide yet. 82 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:19,940 It's only eight megapixels. That's one of the biggest downgrades 83 00:06:19,940 --> 00:06:26,660 over the OnePlus 11 because otherwise on paper, the 12R looks like an amazing choice compared to the 11. 84 00:06:26,660 --> 00:06:33,140 They've got very similar specs other than we get upgraded glass, a bigger battery, faster charging. 85 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:40,160 Ooh, there is one small little bugbear. OnePlus originally said that the 12R had UFS 4.0 support 86 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,060 for its storage, but it's actually 3.1. So that's a downgrade over a OnePlus 11 87 00:06:45,060 --> 00:06:49,300 if you could get a deal on one of those. But other than that, man, I think the cameras are the biggest deal 88 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:54,100 and I don't know about you guys, but the only time I ever use my Ultra Wide camera 89 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:58,820 is when I wanna take a picture of a room and like put markup on it. 90 00:06:58,820 --> 00:07:02,780 Like honestly, that's the only thing I think I've ever used it for is like, 91 00:07:02,780 --> 00:07:06,460 yeah, here's a picture of this room. We're going to IKEA. 92 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:11,500 I'm gonna write some measurements and like where those spots are so that I can remember what my room looks like 93 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:14,660 when I'm walking around in that labyrinthian store. 94 00:07:14,660 --> 00:07:18,180 It's like, it feels like you're in there for so long you don't even know what year it is 95 00:07:18,180 --> 00:07:23,180 or where you live anymore. Both phones are only rated for IP65 water resistance, 96 00:07:23,180 --> 00:07:28,240 which is a little in the weaker side for a modern device, but they've got something water related 97 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,120 that is pretty darn cool. OnePlus has something that they're calling AquaTouch. 98 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,120 I'm sorry, what is this? HyperTouch algorithm makes it like work better 99 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,960 when the screen is wet. I've been provided with a spritzer bottle 100 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,440 and I guess I'll attempt to type a message. 101 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,400 I mean, that seems like pretty good, right? Let's go for accuracy, okay? 102 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Give me a hundred character sentence, go. Subscribe to short. 103 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,960 Oops, that was me. Circuit. 104 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,280 That is pretty darn good. It's bang on. 105 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,920 I like it. Here we go. I mean, what could go wrong? 106 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Oh boy. Well, that's something. 107 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,480 I can't even get a text box. Hello, I am typing. 108 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Oh, and we lost it. Yeah, that's pretty much the experience I have 109 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,760 whenever my hands are wet in the tub. We're down to 34%, 110 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,920 which means it's time to try 50 watt wireless charging. 111 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,720 And what I'm really interested in is what's shaken with our charger here. 112 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,080 We're at 30 watts from the wall. There will be quite a bit of inefficiency 113 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,960 going from AC to DC, then from TC to magnetic induction charging. 114 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,200 Is that it? It's going down. 115 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Airboop charging, buddy. This isn't the only thing 116 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,280 we weren't able to see working the way OnePlus said. They're frame interpolation technology. 117 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,480 We just couldn't get it working and they're on Chinese New Year right now. 118 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,520 So they were like, oh, we can't really look into this. So your mileage may vary on that as well. 119 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,680 But 27 watts from the wall, that means realistically, we're probably only getting about 20 watts here. 120 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:18,320 It's possible that it'll only do that kind of speed from 0%, but we're at 35. 121 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,200 I think it's a pretty reasonable expectation that it would charge pretty fast 122 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,280 when it's at 35%. Oh, there's one more thing. 123 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:31,880 We haven't checked out the speakers yet. Oh my God, Google, this was such a mistake. 124 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,200 What is any of this? Remember when the mail icon was red? 125 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:42,080 So you could actually tell what the hell it was. And when maps was a map, sorry, sorry, sorry. 126 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,240 This is not OnePlus's fault. 127 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:52,160 100% on Google. A little bright, but a big part of the problem 128 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,320 is how loud I have it. I wouldn't normally need this at 100%. 129 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,680 It's really good. Yeah, it's really clean. 130 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:07,000 How about the 12R? Amplified earpiece speaker. Nice to see that on a budget phone. 131 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,960 This is still an expensive phone, but it's a little thing that is often cheaped out on. 132 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,400 If there's a downgrade here, it's not gonna affect you too much. I'd say they're not quite as bright, 133 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,880 but they're still really loud and clear enough 134 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,440 that you're gonna be able to enjoy pretty much anything you would wanna enjoy on your phone speakers. 135 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,080 And otherwise you're just gonna wanna get out your earphones or whatever the case may be. 136 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,400 Now it's time for the hard question. Which one would I choose? 137 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,400 $300 less, but that does come with a capacity downgrade here. 138 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:48,320 Not to mention, of course, the spec downgrade. Or $300 more, but of course with more capacity, 139 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,880 more performance and bursty loads in particular. I think this just comes down to your budget 140 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,040 and what kind of deal you're gonna get from your carrier. As someone who takes a lot of pictures of my kids, 141 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,320 I am really not liking, not having a decent camera on my phone right now. 142 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,600 And I'd say that that could be something that could push me over the edge to the 12. 143 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,560 But I wanna hear from you guys in the comments. 12 or 12R or something else entirely? 144 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:13,120 Whatever it is, I don't care. As long as you're subscribed to ShortCircuit.