WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.320 My computer like now stream going live now. I need stuff now. Yeah, that's yeah, I get it because they're scared of incoming prices 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:09.320 Yep 00:00:11.600 --> 00:00:17.220 Dah 58 teen says just start the damn show. I mean we would have loved to yeah 00:00:17.220 --> 00:00:21.920 My plan was to go home at a reasonable time today trust me. I'm interested in starting the show 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:28.760 It just hasn't quite worked out that way and now I have to go to the washroom nice. Yeah, turn the bucket 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:32.760 What do I look like to you a bird 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:38.720 Got some old newspaper some old I mean now you got my attention 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:42.360 If you can even find news because I have the funnies on it 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:45.640 Yeah, how'd we've kept your old car together? 00:00:47.760 --> 00:00:52.320 Oh, did we get a new shock mount because that one that I had when we did the firetruck stream was terrible 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:58.520 It's a different type of shock now. No, these ones are specific for these mics and the other one was a knot 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:04.720 And because you you grabbed the mic and moved it around. I think it just ripped the I barely touched it 00:01:04.720 --> 00:01:08.480 It like yeah, yeah, you I think you saw it. I did 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:15.440 This is that's the specific re20. Yeah shock mount. Yeah, I only have one 00:01:18.720 --> 00:01:21.280 I can't believe we have not started the show yet 00:01:25.800 --> 00:01:27.800 Yeah about an hour 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:33.000 I'm just gonna global mute You 00:01:51.880 --> 00:01:53.880 Mikes are back live 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:57.440 Are you okay, sir? No, why? 00:02:01.360 --> 00:02:03.360 Yeah, well 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:10.120 I'm sorry that 00:02:12.160 --> 00:02:18.280 I don't know there's so many things there's so many things to do. Well, that's what time it is 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:28.800 I'm going to try to talk again, I guess cool. It's not working on YouTube what? 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:34.240 Huh, no 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:46.840 Really really what it's not working on YouTube. I'm stunned outstanding. I'm appalled 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.240 We're gonna have to call John YouTube and explain no don't say his name 00:02:53.240 --> 00:03:00.080 I Call him gonna come in here like the Kool-Aid man 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:07.720 Sammy get off the lioness account. What are you doing? 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:13.120 Lots on oblivion remaster leaks. I think they're big freaking jerks 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.080 That's what I think and I'm not buying it 00:03:18.600 --> 00:03:22.160 No, Dan you have to buy it not yeah 00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:28.900 Yes, why do they just make a new game? I 00:03:31.480 --> 00:03:36.000 Don't know if I want them to Concerned as well. Maybe just leave it 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:42.640 Maybe just close the whole studio. I don't know wasn't there like another team of mod people who are like gonna make one 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:50.400 Yeah, that's why I'm not buying it. That's why I'm mad Why don't you just play like the new re-release of Skyrim or something? I don't know 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:56.000 Stop you broken the law the the mod team doing the oblivion thing looks amazing. That looks incredible 00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:03.880 Yeah, it looks like they actually cared. Yeah, they do. Yeah, sure. Yeah, and then Bethesda was like get sued into oblivion 00:04:03.880 --> 00:04:09.360 Oh, I didn't mean to make that one. I'm sorry. It's pretty good. I didn't pick up on it 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:16.320 I didn't know it was not intentional really good. So I'm not giving myself a ding for that because the like best one probably of the night 00:04:16.520 --> 00:04:18.520 Didn't even go noticed 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:27.120 Oh, I'm gonna get something to snack you deserve it. You earned it 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:38.720 By the way, I finally watched your smash champs video hilarious 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:42.800 Yeah 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:47.480 Very funny 00:04:51.400 --> 00:04:57.600 Because I made the Sisyphus joke and then Sammy clapped back immediately with 00:04:58.760 --> 00:05:03.400 Another joke based on that and it was just went straight over my head like that man is so smart 00:05:03.400 --> 00:05:10.360 I think he said one must imagine Dan happy. Yeah, yeah straight over my head. Yeah, absolutely genius 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:14.560 I thought that was really funny. So cool That was pretty great 00:05:15.840 --> 00:05:19.520 Yeah, there's a lot of zingers in there, dude, it was it was a very fun 00:05:20.400 --> 00:05:22.880 It's I'm not used to working with like 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:26.000 He's not really video guy 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:34.340 It was great, dude, you just trying to climb into the bucket that said it was only for Jim Dowell's 00:05:38.640 --> 00:05:40.640 Man, I enjoyed the whole thing. It was great 00:05:42.640 --> 00:05:44.640 That's perfect 00:05:51.400 --> 00:05:53.400 All right 00:05:55.840 --> 00:06:01.440 How's it going chat They always pre-show on twitch. Yeah, technically 00:06:01.960 --> 00:06:05.520 We don't normally read your chat though. We only really care about the 00:06:06.280 --> 00:06:09.880 People call them floaters. I thought it was cooler when we called them pilots 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.960 But they seem to have embraced the name floaters more 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:17.680 seems weird 00:06:20.760 --> 00:06:26.640 Oh You see they're making a new runescape. Do you mean the game that released? 00:06:28.080 --> 00:06:30.080 There you're talking about 00:06:39.640 --> 00:06:43.240 Did you go to the Johnson Space Center with Linus? No, we went to Houston 00:06:51.400 --> 00:06:56.400 Game stop is bringing back midnight release for the switch to 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:06.320 Sick See that's cool, but I'm not gonna do it. I think which sucks, but I got to stand on my gotta stand on my principles 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.720 I'm buying it from willow 00:07:09.960 --> 00:07:11.960 If you live in the 00:07:12.960 --> 00:07:15.840 Lower mainland you should go to willow video in Langley 00:07:16.840 --> 00:07:22.800 You should go there those guys been around forever. They're great so long dude, and they are great 00:07:24.080 --> 00:07:26.080 Have you ever looked at first robotics? Yeah, of course 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:35.520 You know full well when switch to releases it'll be in your hands. No it won't unless willow sells it. What's up, Sammy? 00:07:35.520 --> 00:07:40.360 What's up, dawg? What a big dawg cuz we're very competent 00:07:40.840 --> 00:07:47.320 Reven tech and delicious. I've made when late. I don't it wasn't you. I don't think wait man 00:07:47.320 --> 00:07:51.240 It's what are you talking about damn tries to take blame for things sometimes when it's not his fault 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.840 There's only three people here. You guys didn't do anything. How is it only us? 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:02.640 Cardboard with desiccated sugar berries. I'm good. Thank you. Bye, Sammy 00:08:10.520 --> 00:08:25.720 It is funnier when Dan takes the limb I agree are we ready? I think so 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:36.080 Yeah, it looks like it's nice and stable now, and then I perf has passed master. Yeah, so AJ just now 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:40.720 What the heck did he message you oh 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:47.520 Yes, he did my phone just gave me a notification five minutes late because I hate modern technology, but 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:53.920 AJ's just sent me essentially the same thing I was planning on saying which is I think that's the best we can do for now 00:08:55.880 --> 00:09:00.000 Properly diving into this will take more time in the future, but this is what we got for now 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:04.520 We have some we'll send it root cause but yeah, we've got a band-aid. Yeah 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.080 You want to finish your 00:09:10.400 --> 00:09:16.880 Whatever you called it, which was good, but I can't remember desiccated cardboard with with dried dried berries berries or something 00:09:16.880 --> 00:09:18.880 And maybe almond slices 00:09:20.800 --> 00:09:23.520 Nice do you like them no 00:09:25.280 --> 00:09:27.780 Desperate yep 00:09:31.280 --> 00:09:35.400 There's a high priority notification mode you can use yep, I do 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:42.280 I Still doesn't work. I've had teams give me a notification that was over a year old before 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:48.960 Happens my phone barely 00:09:50.920 --> 00:09:53.360 Consistently uses the alarms properly 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.320 Why why do I why do I bother I? 00:09:57.400 --> 00:10:03.120 Don't ever set one alarm for anything anymore. Oh, yeah, I got like eight. Yeah, I have that issue. I 00:10:03.760 --> 00:10:09.400 Don't sleep through alarms anymore. That's nice. I don't know when that decided to end but very happy that it did 00:10:24.880 --> 00:10:29.040 Very naughty him before yes, yeah 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:36.120 Yeah 00:10:41.400 --> 00:10:46.200 No, it's American sign language. That's why it costs so much to use it. I can only use three signs 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:52.480 All right, let's do this thing 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.240 By twitch 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:02.520 All right, oh, I guess I'll just do the thing 00:11:03.400 --> 00:11:09.440 Shoot I did actually sign into the thing Nice. Oh, did we figure out what was the right? 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.640 Like way to go live in terms of like the delay. I 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:16.600 Don't think so 00:11:19.680 --> 00:11:25.080 Think teams is bad my company's using Cisco WebEx. Yeah, that's rough. I feel sorry for you on that one 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:29.360 Why I do like the new teams update actually that might be controversial 00:11:29.520 --> 00:11:36.000 Have you tried it I like that it's higher density or you just heard that a lot lately 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:43.800 I just like the compact view. I um, yeah I swapped it over as well and then I separated them. I don't like the channels being included in the DMs 00:11:44.040 --> 00:11:48.120 No, yeah, I've of course, but it's a little more compact. Yeah, you got to do that 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:53.240 I'm still upset that in v2. They remove the ability to get direct links to individual chats 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.640 Which means that I can't make bots very well anymore 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:00.320 Can't just copy and paste the link to the chat. It's all like in line 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:07.400 Must be using some Magical technology like a modern web tech or something 00:12:15.760 --> 00:12:20.960 Okay, should we do this thing sure um, all right close that 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:25.600 Republishing 00:12:27.640 --> 00:12:32.520 I'm resuming the selected I guess I'll just pick a random time to start talking neat 00:12:35.040 --> 00:12:37.040 Yeah, well, that's what I did last week 00:12:57.160 --> 00:13:02.960 What's up, everybody welcome to the Wancho we got a great show lined up for you this week 00:13:03.160 --> 00:13:08.000 We'll be talking about a company that is under fire for 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.000 anti-consumer behavior and 00:13:12.400 --> 00:13:18.800 I'll be breaking my silence on them a little bit because they were on my do not talk about list after they threatened to sue me a 00:13:18.800 --> 00:13:23.760 Number of years ago. Yeah, that's right. My friends will be talking about this 00:13:24.520 --> 00:13:30.600 That's right. My friends will also be talking about the RTX 50 60 love 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:39.360 That happened this week and the silver lining of it because 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:46.520 The good news is the RTX 50 60 and 50 60 ti are not the only budget GPUs out there 00:13:46.520 --> 00:13:51.840 And there are other ones that you can get for a reasonable price near MSRP right now 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:58.600 What else we got going on this week? discord trials face scans to verify your age, which 00:13:59.160 --> 00:14:03.480 Means that if you want to look at something not safe for work, you have to show them who you are first 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:10.640 That's cool. That's cute. And also there's some companies that have done good things over the 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:18.640 unfortunately years Looking at the time frame that we got the good things from and we'll talk about that to try to make it positive and 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:23.880 By popular demand the shipstorm sale event has been extended 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:30.800 We've been offering free shipping on all orders over a hundred fifty dollars on LTT Store this week it 00:14:31.520 --> 00:14:35.240 Wait, what's going on right now? Oh, it ends tomorrow at midnight 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:41.200 So we technically only have a little over one more day of free shipping. No, wait, what what am I supposed to oh wait? No? 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.920 Now you have until Tuesday got it April 22nd at 10 a.m. 00:14:46.920 --> 00:14:52.320 Pacific Time to get free shipping on all orders over at one hundred fifty dollars and there's more 00:14:52.760 --> 00:14:59.760 You can get our magnetic cable management essential solution for 70 bucks off. So that's that's the big kit there and 00:15:00.640 --> 00:15:06.160 And we're also taking ten dollars off our MCM starter kit. So that's not only 15 bucks 00:15:06.160 --> 00:15:09.000 Okay, but we'll get whatever just we'll talk about that more later 00:15:17.280 --> 00:15:31.280 The show is brought to you today by net data proton and 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:39.040 Delete me also, of course our rap partner dbrand our laptop partner Dell and our chair partner secret lab 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:44.760 Alright, let's jump right into our headline topic this week a name 00:15:44.760 --> 00:15:48.480 I have not spoken the name of in quite some time 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:55.400 Synology Hexos NAS operating system disclosure 00:15:55.840 --> 00:16:02.280 So I recently invested in the creation of a user-friendly NAS software that 00:16:02.800 --> 00:16:07.800 You can just install on your own hardware without being locked into someone's hardware ecosystem 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:13.080 That's gonna be relevant in a moment. First. Let's talk about what happened a couple of days ago 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.580 Synologies plus series of NAS systems 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.200 No longer allowed the use of non-synology or non 00:16:21.680 --> 00:16:25.940 Certified drives to get the full set of features on their NAS 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:33.240 Instead hard drives. Yeah, instead customers will be required to buy the company's branded hard drives 00:16:33.400 --> 00:16:35.400 Which by the way, if you've ever 00:16:36.520 --> 00:16:42.120 Yeah, if you know anything about company branded hard drives like HP hard drives 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:51.520 HP doesn't make hard drives at all And so typically these these vendor locked hard drives are just normal hard drives 00:16:51.560 --> 00:16:54.880 but with a custom firmware on them and a sticker that 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:59.420 Locks them so that you have to pay to you have to buy them directly from the vendor 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:02.960 Users that choose to use non-certified drives 00:17:03.280 --> 00:17:07.760 They'll still work and they'll still be able to store data, but apparently they will lose the following 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:11.040 showing estimated drive health reports 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:16.240 volume-wide deduplication lifespan analysis 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.080 automatic firmware updates and more 00:17:20.080 --> 00:17:28.680 2024 and older models of Synologies plus series will apparently not be affected by this change, but new devices will have this feature 00:17:29.840 --> 00:17:37.040 Enabled there apparently is already a workaround if you set up your unsupported drives in an older 00:17:37.120 --> 00:17:42.880 Synology NAS Then migrate them over they will not be locked out of those features 00:17:43.600 --> 00:17:46.280 according to Tom's hardware, which 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:55.120 Proves that this is absolutely not a hardware feature and is 100% a software lock 00:17:55.120 --> 00:17:58.800 Yeah, that's garbage. Yeah, that is that is absolute trash garbage 00:18:00.800 --> 00:18:05.520 And yeah, I think that's I think that's pretty I think that's pretty poopy in 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:11.440 In general, I've not been like a huge fan of Synology NAS 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:17.720 I don't know if you remember this, but one of the early things that I was super into do you remember Windows home server? 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:21.720 Yeah, yeah, okay. I was super into Windows home server. Yeah, I 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.240 Loved it. It was easy to manage with a full graphical UI 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:31.720 It had a brain-dead simple interface for backing up all the systems on your local network 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:40.520 The the issue with Windows home server aside from Microsoft abandoning it was that Windows doesn't really have a great 00:18:41.120 --> 00:18:46.240 Software raid. Yeah, and Microsoft just never saw fit to build it 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:52.640 My understanding is that storage spaces at a certain level if you are enough of a wizard administrator 00:18:53.560 --> 00:18:56.920 might be kind of usable for something but I 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:01.400 Have never personally had that experience with it and 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:04.800 apparently neither have a lot of people but 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:12.360 Windows home server was super cool and one of the things that I liked about it was that it gave you all of the benefits of 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:19.200 You know one of these little NAS boxes that you could then buy from companies like Synology like QNAP or whoever else 00:19:19.840 --> 00:19:26.760 But you weren't Locked to that hardware you could plug in as many drives as you wanted you could put an HBA in and just 00:19:27.040 --> 00:19:32.040 Expand it you could add more RAM you could put in a faster CPU 00:19:32.040 --> 00:19:35.040 You could have it do you could have it do anything you wanted depending on 00:19:35.560 --> 00:19:42.280 How much performance you needed or how much storage you needed and and that's one of the things that always kind of bothered me 00:19:42.280 --> 00:19:48.080 About these lockdown NASs to be clear. I understand why people buy them and I understand why people like them 00:19:48.080 --> 00:19:53.880 They're pretty much ready to go out of the box and we have done videos on them in the past where I've said 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:58.600 Yep, this seems pretty reasonable but a lot of the time they're not that reasonable and it's 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:03.600 It appears to me to be fully intentional where they will you know 00:20:04.040 --> 00:20:07.280 Not put an m.2 slot on that one 00:20:07.280 --> 00:20:13.680 Or they will not have a PCIe slot to make sure that you can't have 10 gig networking on that one 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:21.400 That would otherwise totally work as a video editing NAS. Yeah, and so the the holy grail for me 00:20:21.600 --> 00:20:28.400 Has always been to have the benefits of a completely custom solution 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:32.880 You know running some Linux distro or whatever else with you know 00:20:33.080 --> 00:20:39.680 ZFS with whatever fancy patches and you know, you've you've got all your virtualization running on it and whatever else, right? 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:46.320 so having all the benefits of that plus the benefits of just easy an easy kind of interface and 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:54.520 You know a setup wizard and the simplicity that you get from these pre-done NAS boxes because right now you either 00:20:55.440 --> 00:21:01.760 Have to learn a whole bunch of stuff that can be fun for some people and that's great if you're into that 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:05.200 That's awesome, and I think that's super cool 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:11.120 But not everybody's into that or you have to pay a lot of money for devices that appear to be 00:21:11.520 --> 00:21:13.920 Planned obsolescence incarnate 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:24.040 very very intentionally and You know this is something that has been very apparent to me about Synology's model for many many years and now they've been 00:21:24.040 --> 00:21:26.960 They're basically saying the quiet part out loud. Yeah by switching to this 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:31.400 vendor certified vendor locked down hard drive model and 00:21:32.320 --> 00:21:37.720 Hexos disclosure. I already did okay. Yeah, and that and I was getting to that is 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:44.280 Exactly why I invested in hexos because I think you should be able to install something that is as simple to use as Synology 00:21:44.280 --> 00:21:51.600 So it has that out-of-box experience and app support and ease of use factor while also having the performance and the 00:21:52.000 --> 00:22:00.200 flexibility of a DIY NAS solution and I think they've kind of nailed it because they're gonna have a subscription model for the software 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:02.640 But they will also have a more expensive 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:08.880 One-time purchase model and then you just have it forever and you can just have whatever hardware you want in your hexo s 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:14.400 NAS now just because you have the license forever doesn't mean they will have no subscriptions like they might introduce their own cloud service or whatever 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.640 Yeah, for sure that something wires 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:24.920 Constant effort or expense on their end. So it has to be tied with a subscription. Yeah, but but in terms of the base software itself 00:22:25.840 --> 00:22:31.080 Once you own it forever, you will you will own it forever. They're apparently doing great by the way. I am like 00:22:31.840 --> 00:22:34.160 Kind of blown away. What's like user feedback? 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:42.320 People have been really understanding the community not just the user community, but the developer community has rallied 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:47.200 Hard around hexo s because they're just like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah 00:22:47.760 --> 00:22:52.680 Like this is common sense. Why do we not have this someone's finally fucking doing it? 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:58.040 I'm in like apparently when we talked about them for the launch they got 00:22:59.040 --> 00:23:06.200 Just an avalanche of developer applications and I don't mean like like script kiddies who are like 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:09.080 I want to I want to help develop the hexo s like 00:23:09.840 --> 00:23:15.880 They they showed me some of the portfolios work for them. I thought I thought you meant. Okay. Okay. Yeah 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:25.320 I thought you meant like people Creating things for the platform. No, no avalanche of applications from people who have portfolios that I was like 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:34.840 Oh What they could work anywhere they want? Yeah, yeah, basically or just or just not work or whatever like no like wow 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:38.080 Anyway, so yeah, they've got some really talented people working on it now 00:23:38.600 --> 00:23:47.480 So let's so anyway before hexo s was even a twinkle in the eye of John and Eric and the guys over there 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.520 My kind of you know tech tips for the people 00:23:53.080 --> 00:23:59.000 Solution to marry the DIY benefits with the ease of view software benefits was like hey 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:02.280 We should do a video on that that Synology 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:08.360 like Like hackintosh Hackology or what what's it called? What's uh? 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:15.080 Okay, hold on the Synology There's the what's it called? What's it called? Uh, but it but but 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:22.840 Exponology, Exponology I don't know if it actually still works, but it was a thing back when we did it and 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:28.760 There's there were some limitations, right? Like there were some challenges like it only work on certain hardware 00:24:28.840 --> 00:24:33.080 there were some like weird hacky workarounds and from my point of view 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:40.360 It absolutely was not a complete replacement for for Synology and to be clear 00:24:40.360 --> 00:24:45.160 I didn't expect Synology to be like stoked that this was something we were making a video about but 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:50.600 We actually got as far as shooting the entire video and the actual conclusion of it was like 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:57.160 Yeah, if you want the best possible experience, you got to buy the hardware key for the for the lock here 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:03.000 But this is if you are you know kind of willing to deal with some some challenges 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:08.920 You adapt this thing you might already have then you could then you can install this on hardware that you already have and it like 00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:12.600 Kind of mostly works and I think it would have actually sold 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:18.200 A lot of Synology NASs because most people wouldn't have been willing to go through this work, but we ultimately 00:25:19.080 --> 00:25:21.640 never released that video because 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:32.200 They came after us Incredibly hard. How did they know you're even making it? I do not remember to be perfectly honest with you 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:35.880 but we basically said hey, yeah, we 00:25:36.760 --> 00:25:40.760 Don't agree that us making a video about a thing that is common knowledge 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:48.200 Breaks any kind of agreement we would have with you of any sort and I don't think it does no it really doesn't but 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:56.600 And I wanted to just publish the video To be to be you know full cards on the table here. I just wanted to say f*** it and just publish the video 00:25:57.320 --> 00:26:04.920 but we had Other voices internally who felt very strongly that at a somewhat vulnerable time 00:26:05.800 --> 00:26:14.280 For our company we did not have strong cash reserves. We were not equipped to like fight go to war. Yeah, and that's what they 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:21.320 Unfortunately, and you know, I am making some guests about when it might have been and that might have been the right call at the time 00:26:21.320 --> 00:26:27.960 But unfortunately, that's what they want. Yes, that's exactly what they want these companies use this as a as a tool 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:31.160 They don't actually want to end up in court with you 00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:36.840 so the so the The compromise that we reached was that 00:26:37.320 --> 00:26:43.160 Synology would be dead to us at that point. Um, and there have been a couple exceptions to that. I think someone's 00:26:44.360 --> 00:26:49.640 Tech upgrade at some point included a Synology NAS and I basically went well, this seems like a bit of an exception 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:55.000 I'm not talking about it. Yeah, and I'm not going to limit people's options for tech upgrades to like 00:26:55.560 --> 00:27:00.680 Brands that I you know get along with or whatever. Sure, right? Um 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:03.480 but other than that I 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:11.320 I won't work with them I won't like I I'd need I'd need an apology before I would even 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:16.440 Talk to them essentially, um, which has happened with brands before. Well, yeah, of course because 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:22.280 Usually what it comes down to is that, you know, someone who works there has a chip on their shoulder or whatever 00:27:22.760 --> 00:27:28.600 And that individual eventually moves on and you know, the reality of it is that we're probably going to outlast most 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:33.000 Individuals in the particular role that they're in and so we can just play the waiting game 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:39.560 I mean, that's what happened with envidia. Yeah envidia the the entity didn't like, you know, want to mend fences 00:27:40.520 --> 00:27:43.800 A couple particular people who were ass hurt 00:27:44.360 --> 00:27:48.520 um Move done And so we'll we'll work with them and 00:27:49.320 --> 00:27:56.600 I want to make it very clear You know that is in spite of the fact that we are going to continue to cover them in a way that is fair and balanced and call them out 00:27:56.600 --> 00:28:02.120 When they when they do things that are wrong. Have you talked to them since maybe we shouldn't talk about this on the show? 00:28:02.120 --> 00:28:09.160 Have you talked to them since that video went up? No I mean, why would I there's nothing else to say? I already said everything I have to say. What are they going to say? 00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:11.640 Knowing this current crew 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:18.200 I don't think that would make them run which is cool. I don't think so. I think that's cool genuinely cool 00:28:18.520 --> 00:28:21.400 I think that this because that's the thing right is like 00:28:22.280 --> 00:28:28.440 I respect that actually a lot That doesn't mean that you know, they're that they have ignored it 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:35.000 They haven't heard what we've said. It just means that they're looking for a path forward and they're not going to let this 00:28:35.800 --> 00:28:40.040 Poison everything else that we could possibly work together on sounds good. Um 00:28:41.080 --> 00:28:45.560 And you know, I can understand that being a tough thing to be clear, but like 00:28:46.360 --> 00:28:48.680 That's the that's the you can't um 00:28:50.040 --> 00:28:52.280 You can't let relationships influence 00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:56.840 Uh Reviewing well, no, I mean that's that's the same what you gotta do 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:02.360 It's the same reason that we will you know continue to cover apple even though they have never seated us a device or given us 00:29:02.520 --> 00:29:13.320 Even a briefing or answered a question Um, but we'll continue to cover them and I can absolutely not like their arrogance that they think that because they don't have an aligned worldview 00:29:13.320 --> 00:29:15.880 They don't need to answer your questions or engage with you. Mm-hmm 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:22.680 That's totally valid But if they make a good product like, you know airpods pro to I absolutely love mine 00:29:23.080 --> 00:29:26.120 And I say nothing but good things about all the good things about them 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.360 Then you just you have to separate that you have to separate sort of the corporate culture 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:34.680 From the individuals who work there from the product those those things can all be 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:40.920 Have they can all be very different and all of those differences can be very valid 00:29:41.320 --> 00:29:45.400 Uh, but you can't let them bleed into each other as best you can as best you can at least 00:29:46.040 --> 00:29:49.640 um So long story short 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:55.000 Synology, um, hopefully you can go f*** yourself in the longer term 00:29:55.560 --> 00:30:00.920 Because it will be as simple as just picking up not overpriced hardware and installing 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:08.200 uh investment disclosure hexos on it and I will never have to say your name again and uh, good luck with that 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:14.840 And especially because you guys think it's cool to vendor lock hard drives on consumer systems, which 00:30:15.800 --> 00:30:18.280 On an enterprise system, I can at least 00:30:18.840 --> 00:30:22.440 kind of see it like if you have some 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:28.680 like I don't know disc disc shelf like giant, you know 00:30:29.560 --> 00:30:37.080 uh Like rack based san system or something like that and the vendors basically like look we've only validated this 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:44.200 particular firmware revision and and this these particular models and if you put something else in it 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.160 Look your warranty is valid because that's all invalid because that's all that we validated 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.440 I think there's at least an argument to be made there because 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.560 The operation of that device that entire device 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:03.400 Is covered by the service agreement that that vendor has with you. It's a totally different scenario 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.840 So it is actually their problem if something goes wrong with it 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:14.520 Totally get it For a consumer who's backing up their photos to a freaking hard drive. No, I'm afraid I don't get that 00:31:14.600 --> 00:31:19.560 I don't actually think that that's okay um 00:31:19.560 --> 00:31:23.720 All right, what what what what what what what what do we what else do you want to talk about this week mr. Loop? 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.160 We only had one Main news topic. Should we talk about that one? We have more than one 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:34.680 Pretty sure we have one They're kind of connected. They are not connected. They're a little bit connected. They're not connected at all 00:31:35.800 --> 00:31:41.080 It's not all bad. Yeah, is that not connected to the story above it being bad? No. Oh 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.960 I There's just totally 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.960 You pick whichever one you like mr. Luke. Let's do let's do the 50 61 00:31:50.600 --> 00:31:53.400 Let's do it. So, um, this is now the 00:31:54.600 --> 00:31:58.920 Fifth there were sixth big GPU launch since you took over the lab 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:04.520 There's been six so far in this quarter. So I think that's correct. Yeah 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:11.480 And how did you feel it went? Let's talk let's talk about let's talk about sort of our process for evaluating product 00:32:11.560 --> 00:32:16.440 So I want two answers One is how do you think the kind of that because we did test the car 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:23.160 We uploaded a ShortCircuit video looking at the 50 60 ti 16 gig. Are we talking about the how'd your team do? 00:32:23.560 --> 00:32:27.160 Oh, great. Yeah, I'm actually I'm very happy with the lab. I um 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:34.040 It's been a It's been a weird journey. It's like I I've never I've I've 00:32:34.520 --> 00:32:36.920 I have a quite a few teams at this point. I've never 00:32:37.560 --> 00:32:43.240 taken over a team though Every team that I've had like everyone on all of my teams 00:32:43.800 --> 00:32:51.160 Other than the lab I hired them. Yeah, all of them. So like this was a very new experience 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:58.440 um And there were some things that like I tripped on at the start because I'm just very not used to this my first time doing that 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:04.600 all that kind of stuff getting used to New people getting used to new processes the lab does a lot of stuff 00:33:05.560 --> 00:33:10.440 Getting used to that trying to figure out like what the heck is even going on with different parts of it 00:33:10.520 --> 00:33:14.360 Um, I don't know if you remember but there was a thing that I completely shut down 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:18.440 Which was like literally most of the work that they did within the first week of joining. Yeah 00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:26.200 Sure. Yeah, I um I I stepped in and one of the first things I did was I said that 00:33:27.080 --> 00:33:30.440 I said that I would have a meeting with every single person in the department 00:33:30.520 --> 00:33:33.720 A one-on-one with every single person in the department before I made any drastic decisions 00:33:34.040 --> 00:33:36.040 And then I got two one-on-ones in 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:41.000 paused all of the remaining one-on-ones and did an extremely dramatic decision 00:33:42.520 --> 00:33:46.200 Which I don't think that was one of the trips actually. I think that was the right move 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:52.680 And that was I figured out uh, like what percentage of time people were spending on different things 00:33:53.320 --> 00:34:00.520 And it was coming out from like almost everyone A huge percentage of it was ShortCircuit. Yeah, and ShortCircuit is cool 00:34:00.760 --> 00:34:04.520 But i'm looking at that ShortCircuit the cost and size of the lab 00:34:04.840 --> 00:34:09.080 And if you try to look at the the holistic cost of both the the equipment the space 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:15.320 Uh, the salaries all that type of stuff and then you apply the percentage of that lab's time 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.520 That was being spent on ShortCircuit and the math just is really not math in here 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:24.760 Um bad mathing. So I was like, whoa, let's um 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:31.400 Let's pause this if we can Which is to say that we're not going to do lab's testing on ShortCircuit 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:36.680 We obviously just did we're already doing we did like 30 of them over the last quarter or something 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:41.240 But we had a lot of workflow things to figure out. Yeah to smooth out that process 00:34:42.040 --> 00:34:47.880 Before we could do it and we're we're still working on those things like we're hiring testers right now 00:34:48.520 --> 00:34:51.240 We're in the I wouldn't I don't know if the post is still up 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.320 If you're applying now, I mean, there's a chance, but it's probably too late 00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.600 But we're interviewing testers right now We're hiring three 00:35:00.680 --> 00:35:06.200 We just brought on way over do testing coordinator. Nice, which is going to be really nice as well 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:11.480 Yep So that person's job is going to be you know to keep the tests flowing one one thing 00:35:11.560 --> 00:35:15.480 I said the the beginning what I want them working on is mostly communication 00:35:15.560 --> 00:35:19.240 Make sure people outside our department know what's going on make sure people inside our department 00:35:19.240 --> 00:35:23.480 Know what they're supposed to be doing know what's going on make sure that things are flowing properly all that kind of stuff 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.800 In the longer run something that I want them working on is optimizing 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.480 um like station efficiency and what I kind of mean by that is 00:35:32.040 --> 00:35:37.720 Um say we have some GPU embargo. Yeah, it doesn't mean that every other station should stay cold 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:44.920 That's one of the ideas of having more testers as well Is even if the majority of the testers are all focused on one like crazy project 00:35:45.240 --> 00:35:51.160 There should still be enough extra testers that we can keep the other stations kind of moving and keep things pumping through the lab 00:35:51.560 --> 00:35:54.920 Um, but yeah, I I was like, okay, we're spending all this time doing this 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.880 There's no free time to work on processors. No free time to do all this kind of stuff 00:35:58.120 --> 00:36:01.960 Let's pause for like two three months and really try to hammer this stuff out 00:36:02.120 --> 00:36:08.600 We rewrote a ton of process We redid a ton of different things and kind of got a better look of what we wanted in the future 00:36:08.600 --> 00:36:13.080 When I first started with the department, I was looking sometimes hours forward 00:36:14.040 --> 00:36:20.600 And then now at this point, I'm looking months year plus forward. Um, and there's some there's some cool plans 00:36:20.680 --> 00:36:30.760 Okay, now this was a good Oh, the the six GPUs was a fantastic push now. Let's talk about how things went 00:36:31.240 --> 00:36:36.600 Uh with the 50 60 50 60 ti from like an an overall execution 00:36:37.160 --> 00:36:39.160 outside of lab's standpoint 00:36:44.200 --> 00:36:49.000 You know what here, why don't I read through the notes on april 16th NVIDIA 00:36:49.720 --> 00:36:58.760 launched the 50 60 family which included the rtx 50 60 with eight gigs of RAM the rtx 50 60 ti 00:36:59.080 --> 00:37:04.680 with eight gigs of RAM and The rtx 50 60 ti with 16 gigs of RAM 00:37:05.640 --> 00:37:09.960 Even though these cards are out Um now 00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:14.600 Almost everywhere only lists the 50 60 ti 16 gig 00:37:15.560 --> 00:37:22.200 The other two models are expected to You know be physically present in the real world at some point 00:37:22.680 --> 00:37:25.560 But nobody seems to know when so we decided 00:37:26.120 --> 00:37:29.880 Not because the lab was not capable of doing the testing as as luke already mentioned 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:36.600 The lab was fully capable of doing the testing In fact, they did some testing for our ShortCircuit video on the 50 60 ti 16 gig, uh, but we decided 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:45.480 That because we didn't feel that this Situation was very consumer first that we were not going to do a review 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.520 But instead did a rant style video about how this entire 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:53.480 Launch felt not just the 60 class cards, but the 50 series in general 00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:59.160 From the perspective, uh from several perspectives from an NVIDIA partner perspective. We included a little bit of that 00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:06.520 From a press perspective and especially from a consumer perspective one thing that we did not really 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:11.080 Include in the video because I couldn't say this factually for certain 00:38:11.560 --> 00:38:17.800 But one thing that we didn't include in the video is that my personal theory for why they rolled it out this way 00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:20.920 Is that they want customer confusion? 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:28.440 I think that they want A heap of reviews on the the 50 60 ti 00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:34.360 16 gig Right and because this is the first member of the family that anyone can get their hands on 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:40.040 And they want those ones for you on the remaining to to be at the top of the search results 00:38:40.680 --> 00:38:45.560 and then I believe that NVIDIA had no intention whatsoever 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.720 Of ceding the other cards in any kind of timely manner or maybe at all 00:38:50.120 --> 00:38:56.440 Basically just leaving it to their board partners or leaving it to media outlets to go and source them on their own in drips and drabs 00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:59.720 By which time there would be literally zero 00:39:00.200 --> 00:39:08.360 Remaining excitement around the 50 60 series because even the ti 16 gig was not exactly going to light anyone's world on fire in terms of the 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:14.600 The the value proposition of it. That doesn't mean it's a bad card. It just means that it's not 00:39:15.240 --> 00:39:21.960 exciting anybody And I think that the benefit for NVIDIA of this kind of confusion and of this 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:28.440 Of of having something with a very similar model name have all the views all of the seo 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:32.120 All the algorithmic weight is that people would see 00:39:32.600 --> 00:39:37.400 An something affordable 50 60 50 60 ti 8 gig something 00:39:38.120 --> 00:39:42.200 Sort of within their budget on the shelf and go. Oh, okay, so 50 60 00:39:43.240 --> 00:39:49.800 Like is that good and they'd end up with a review of the 50 60 16 gig that would look better than the thing that they're actually buying 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:53.320 That is my theory. Is this counter to your theory from 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.720 I think four wands ago. Where are you saying that reviewers don't matter anymore? 00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.440 um 00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:07.960 I think that Because I think that there is wrong. I think that NVIDIA thinks reviewers still matter 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:11.080 But not enough to do this whole thing properly 00:40:11.640 --> 00:40:17.240 Or they think that reviewers can have an influence and I think that this was an effort to actively work against it 00:40:18.200 --> 00:40:21.800 So I think I think that is NVIDIA's intention whether it would work or not 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:30.680 Got it. I think they wanted the perception of the 50 60 series to be set around the performance 00:40:31.080 --> 00:40:39.800 of the ti 16 gig And then they could deliver the lower price of the other ones and hopefully keep those things separated from each other 00:40:40.120 --> 00:40:45.080 Do you remember another time because I don't when NVIDIA launched a card with no embargo? 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.840 Yes, uh, one of the titan cards they did it 00:40:49.560 --> 00:40:55.000 And I I outright refused to make content about it. I was like this is completely unacceptable 00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:01.000 And some people seem to get really confused. I went on a shadow band spree 00:41:01.640 --> 00:41:07.080 Anyone who said that our upset was because we're just like butthurt. We didn't get a free card 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:13.720 Got permanently banned because that you're actually too stupid for me to listen to anything that you say ever again 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.760 The value of a free card compared to like the average 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:21.720 Daily expenses at this company is hilarious. It's actually trivial 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.560 Dan laughing in the background. Um, it's that's just like clearly not 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:32.280 The reason it matters the reason that we have review embargoes and we have 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:36.520 Organization around the launch is so that it benefits everybody 00:41:36.680 --> 00:41:41.720 It's fair play and vidya has time to brief the press on their side of the story 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:50.920 The press has time to verify that story and form their own thoughts and opinions rather important and then 00:41:51.640 --> 00:41:59.880 everyone goes live with their Equally equipped side of the story and the consumer gets the a balanced view 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:06.680 that is that can be that that can be put together with time and care and attention and 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:11.480 Will not be perfect launch reviews are never going to be perfect because over the 00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:17.240 Days and weeks and months and sometimes years after our launch. We're probably still going to be learning more about the product 00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:23.640 But at least it's a starting point and there's a huge benefit to consumers where they can go. Okay 00:42:24.040 --> 00:42:29.800 Everyone had a fair shot at this You know whose coverage do I like the best and they have a choice and they don't have to just pick one 00:42:30.120 --> 00:42:34.280 They can they can get a perspective from all of these different media outlets 00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.960 Which we suggest they do anyways is a healthy ecosystem. Yeah 00:42:38.520 --> 00:42:44.600 Providing a card on thursday afternoon or whatever it was. Was it wednesday afternoon or thursday afternoon? 00:42:44.600 --> 00:42:48.360 I feel like it was thursday, but I don't remember it doesn't matter the point is providing a card 00:42:49.080 --> 00:42:52.680 Over a weekend with a launch embargo Tuesday morning 00:42:53.240 --> 00:43:00.920 is a Not good for consumers because it means that everyone who's trying to get these videos out for embargo is going to have less time 00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:06.600 To validate NVIDIA's claims and b is just f***ing disrespectful 00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:11.880 It's just completely disrespectful and the truth is it's not me 00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:21.560 I'm not going to crunch over the weekend We have the benefit of being a large enough organization now that i'm not the one who actually sits there 00:43:22.040 --> 00:43:26.680 and and puts the cards onto the benches and and and makes the graphs 00:43:27.240 --> 00:43:29.960 And and puts everything on a timeline edits it 00:43:30.520 --> 00:43:32.520 No, that's going to be my team 00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:42.760 Utterly Yep Disrespectful And they do it. We've got passionate people, but of course we we don't want them to which is why 00:43:43.560 --> 00:43:48.440 In part we we didn't actually do the big LTT video for this card. Yeah 00:43:49.080 --> 00:43:52.120 Yeah, because it's just and and it's one of those things where it's like look 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:58.440 Look if it was a one-time thing, right? And there was like a good reason 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:04.520 If NVIDIA was basically like okay, no no no hold on hold on hold on hold on if NVIDIA was a way smaller company 00:44:05.080 --> 00:44:09.560 Okay, hold on. Let me put you a hypothetical. Okay, and this product 00:44:10.520 --> 00:44:14.520 Let's say okay. Let's say NVIDIA was more like a like a a big screen 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:18.280 You know big screen that make the beyond vr headset. By the way, do you have an iphone? 00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:25.640 What uh, yeah I spent money for once and I need to do a face scan. Oh, oh you bought a big screen 00:44:26.680 --> 00:44:33.080 I might want to as well dude. It's been so sorry to derail. It's been so long since I've bought I my I'm still writing on the vibe 00:44:34.040 --> 00:44:40.920 And I I watched a bunch of content on the big screen beyond two and I couldn't get this thought on my head of like it's time 00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:46.360 It's really good. It's time. It's sick. So I'm stoked. So anyway, I'm very good 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.800 Then let's say it was big screen sure in the past other than their software 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:56.280 They've only ever had like one hardware product Okay, yep now they've got that and it sold my understanding is like pretty deez 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:04.440 But like, you know pretty deez right still it's gonna be a niche product. Yeah niche product. Okay, so if big screen were to say, okay 00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:07.560 Here's the situation. We've got like 00:45:08.520 --> 00:45:12.840 Three cards or three cards. Sorry, excuse me. We've got like three headsets 00:45:13.560 --> 00:45:19.960 Um The bulk shipment lands like this day. We must launch it this day 00:45:20.600 --> 00:45:24.680 Um Otherwise we are like we are like out of cash 00:45:25.080 --> 00:45:30.200 We actually like we have payroll that day if we don't get pre-orders in you're gonna love this thing 00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:35.400 We are absolutely 100 the company will be gone. We are we're 100 certain you're gonna love this thing 00:45:36.040 --> 00:45:39.720 You've got like four days. Could you ask the team to work over a weekend? 00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.840 We are so confident that your independent unbiased 00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:49.960 Unbiased review is going to validate our claims that this thing is awesome. Um that we're you know 00:45:51.640 --> 00:45:56.440 Look, we're willing to work with people. I'll be like, okay. All right. It's not going to impact the coverage 00:45:56.840 --> 00:46:02.920 But yeah, I'll make sure people are here on the weekend We're going to try and hit this embargo because I think you guys are doing great things 00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.520 Everything that I've seen about the product seems really positive 00:46:07.160 --> 00:46:12.760 My experience with working with you is that you've been very honest in your assessments of the quality of the product 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.400 And the way that you present it all of these things align 00:46:16.200 --> 00:46:20.200 Yeah, let's let's get everybody in on the weekend. I'll come in on the sunday night 00:46:20.200 --> 00:46:25.480 We'll get the film. We'll get it shot. We'll get an editor uh in an other time zone booked for like an overnight edit 00:46:25.560 --> 00:46:29.640 Then we'll have a look at it with one of our editors in house on monday morning. Let's get this thing done, you know 00:46:30.200 --> 00:46:37.800 No problem But that's not invidia no invidia had absolutely 00:46:38.680 --> 00:46:42.040 No reason whatsoever 00:46:42.040 --> 00:46:46.120 financially to To have this launch on that day 00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:54.280 Imagine luke if you will if invidia had delayed the launch of the 5060 series for 00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:59.480 Three weeks and given us Darn near a month to work on our review 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:03.400 They would have launched the card and they would have all sold out 00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:12.360 From a financial standpoint, there is no reason whatsoever that it had to launch that day. In fact, two of the three cards 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.400 were not available at all 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:19.240 And my understanding is that another media 00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.920 I don't want to name them not because I don't want to name them but because 00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:27.800 You know, I'm not sure if it was them Um, you look it up 00:47:28.600 --> 00:47:34.760 Did what? Okay, well, I heard through the grapevine. I have not verified this that someone said that 00:47:35.240 --> 00:47:41.160 Add-in board partners were explicitly told not to seed the other cards even if they like did have samples. Oh 00:47:42.200 --> 00:47:44.600 I can't remember who it was though. I think it was 00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:52.680 Okay, I'm gonna say it then I'm gonna say I think it was hardware unboxed But I'm not sure but I'm not a hundred percent sure so please do not quote me on that 00:47:52.680 --> 00:47:57.880 Anyway, the point is that NVIDIA clearly had absolutely 00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:04.280 No, yeah, Elijah says that's right. Yeah, okay. Okay. NVIDIA clearly has no sales incentive whatsoever 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:09.880 Not only that but they are actively ensuring that we cannot 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:16.520 test these cards Well, what how can I possibly assume anything other than 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:25.240 bad faith Bad intentions when you are actively working to keep information about these cards out of concern. It's not like this isn't a pattern 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:31.800 As much as I praised them earlier for like, uh, you know, if we can criticize them in that video and they will still work with us 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:34.840 That's that's very heads up. That's cool. Um 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:39.240 That being said, this is a rather egregious pattern. I don't think that there has been 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.160 Oh, wait, Elijah says I don't know if hardware unbox said that we heard directly from board partners. Okay 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:50.360 Uh, hathos says that was hub though. So maybe they heard the same thing. So take that for what it is take that for what it is 00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:55.880 I'm really not sure. Um But I at least since the 1000 series 00:48:57.080 --> 00:49:01.560 Hub apparently said it as well. Okay. I I feel like before then but at least from the 1000 series 00:49:01.560 --> 00:49:04.920 I haven't seen an NVIDIA launch that didn't have just like egregious 00:49:05.640 --> 00:49:09.160 falsehoods in the announcement I've seen some 00:49:09.160 --> 00:49:14.920 Since 1000 series. Yeah, well what? Yeah, I mean I as much as people ragged on them about it 00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:22.120 I don't think 3090 was particularly misrepresented. They said it was 8k capable with dlss help and it was 00:49:22.520 --> 00:49:28.600 Did they compare it to other generation that I got to look this up now? I don't remember but it was it was like very powerful compared to other generations 00:49:28.600 --> 00:49:33.720 So there was no reason for them to to fudge it. I mean they've had 1000 series was really good, too 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:41.480 Yeah, that's true that Yeah, that's I don't know how much it matters. Yeah, that's probably true. Um 00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.720 Overall, I think the 30 series was a pretty 00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:51.320 Was a pretty honest launch and they seemed to be competing hard. They seemed focused 00:49:52.040 --> 00:49:57.960 Because they had the new console generation and they seemed very focused on beating it with 00:49:58.680 --> 00:50:04.600 laser precision And other than that. No, I actually I I do agree with you. Yeah, okay 00:50:05.720 --> 00:50:09.160 But yeah, it's like that that I don't know it's just but let's come back 00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.280 Maybe there's other reasons. Maybe it's not financial, right? 00:50:12.600 --> 00:50:16.200 Like what are the other reasons that NVIDIA could have for 00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:23.480 Forcing this launch on this day Um other than financial, uh, maybe uh, maybe an image reason 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.480 Maybe they promised that these cards, uh, would launch on that day 00:50:28.120 --> 00:50:30.760 Well, then they failed that anyway because you can't buy them anyway 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:36.360 And you can't you can't even review them. You see, okay. So so what what other what other possible reason 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:43.080 Could motivate a company to Does someone internally have like a kpi that they have to launch 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.560 The cards in in this quarter. Well, there's plenty of time left in this quarter 00:50:48.120 --> 00:50:53.480 Like what is the I'm trying to understand what reason there could possibly be to give us 00:50:54.120 --> 00:50:57.480 Four or five days or whatever it was two of which being a weekend 00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:07.000 To review these cards Other than just trying to hide information from consumers and out of a complete lack of respect for partners 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.880 Those are the only two reasons that I can come up with 00:51:10.520 --> 00:51:13.800 Or just completely not f***ing caring. Okay, so there's a third reason 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:22.280 That's it. That's all I got. So it's really hard. Um, it's really hard for me to say anything other than 00:51:23.080 --> 00:51:26.440 That's not okay. Um, that's that's not gonna fly 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:31.960 Um, and I've seen okay another another bad take but not a bannable take 00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.120 Another bad take is okay. You guys just shouldn't you should never talk about NVIDIA again 00:51:36.520 --> 00:51:42.280 You should never review an NVIDIA card. We absolutely still should they have like 80 market share in the discrete GPU space 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:47.880 We have to we have to review things that people are going to buy anyway so that we can make sure that 00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:51.880 If they want to know what's going on that we can give them the what's up 00:51:52.200 --> 00:51:57.320 Like we're not just going to outright stop reviewing their products and as I mentioned in that video 00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:05.240 We're not even going to stop working with NVIDIA We are going to work with NVIDIA because at the end of the day they're overpriced and I think they have a terrible attitude 00:52:06.040 --> 00:52:10.040 But the products are mostly good 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:15.320 Like how many of you have an NVIDIA GPU that you're really happy with I bet a lot of you do 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:21.560 All right, then so we're gonna happy with mine. So we're gonna have to we're gonna have to work with these guys 00:52:22.040 --> 00:52:30.360 We're gonna have to work with these guys But it's that doesn't mean that just because we're gonna work with them that we're not going to call them out when they do something 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.360 That's unacceptable 00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.200 All right, what else was there in here there's some silver line. Oh, yes, okay 00:52:38.600 --> 00:52:41.640 So we decided not to post a review so we still have unboxings 00:52:42.200 --> 00:52:44.600 And we will do those for the other cards once they land 00:52:45.640 --> 00:52:51.480 You can also head to lttlabs.com We'll have a full list of benchmarks for these cards once they are ready 00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.400 Any big updates on the Labs website lately or not really? 00:52:56.520 --> 00:53:02.680 Not since the ones that we posted last I think psu circuits been doing great. Yeah channels been getting more views and stuff 00:53:02.680 --> 00:53:04.680 That's that's pretty cool 00:53:06.600 --> 00:53:09.640 Yeah, okay, so yeah, there's definitely there's some new articles and stuff 00:53:10.200 --> 00:53:13.240 We've got a review of the rm 1000 x up there 00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:17.240 We're planning an article right now based on that email that lucas sent you 00:53:18.200 --> 00:53:21.480 Which is a thing that we've been talking about doing for a while 00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:26.760 Which is we want to take the whole build-in-public model and apply it to the lab a little bit so 00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:32.840 There's there's a couple ways that this will be showing its its face soon one of them is 00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:38.680 We're we're planning so I don't want to I don't want to Leak it we'll probably be talking about it next week's way and show 00:53:39.240 --> 00:53:42.440 But I want it to be lucas's words because it's it's his stuff not mine 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:46.040 But we're planning some potential changes to powers by testing. That's all I will say now 00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:54.440 But those details and the changes that will be happening are going to be talked about in a Labs article 00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:58.840 And then there will likely be a forum post accompanying it so that people can give feedback 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:02.760 I love it and we're going to be saying like hey, this is the situation that we're dealing with 00:54:03.240 --> 00:54:06.360 This is the plan that we are planning on implementing. Let us know 00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:11.400 But let us know I want to do so much more of that dude. I was disheartened to find out that the 00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:19.960 acoustic chamber's done Because I didn't know oh and we didn't like make a video about it. Well, we're writing an article about it 00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:25.400 We're going to be like we're going to be writing an article pictures of it being worked on like there wasn't a lot 00:54:25.560 --> 00:54:29.080 We just glued panels. Well. Yeah, but it made a big difference. Did it not it did okay 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.720 But there's gonna be an article Fine good, but like I would have liked to make a video about it 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:36.440 So this this was part keeping all the cool stuff for his website 00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:41.400 While my videos languish while I'm making videos about fire trucks. I'm so desperate 00:54:42.200 --> 00:54:46.680 You can No, you can't spray the sound chamber. Sorry 00:54:47.640 --> 00:54:50.280 Maybe the rf chamber there after can't chamber could probably take getting sprayed 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:58.040 It's metal Okay, the outside of it. Why would we do that? I don't know fire truck videos. Whatever. Um, but yeah 00:54:58.040 --> 00:55:01.000 there's going to be an article on the sound chamber stuff and 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:09.800 there might Be a ShortCircuit maybe and the ShortCircuit would feature what we're calling Labs experimental graphs 00:55:10.200 --> 00:55:18.120 So the graphs will indicate that these are tests under construction effectively. Um, so it's a way for us to 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.440 Try to do stuff and put stuff out there that we're pretty confident in 00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:29.720 But we're still kind of evaluating a little bit So there will be an article talking about the current state of our sound testing 00:55:30.200 --> 00:55:33.880 Uh, and there will be a a ShortCircuit video coming out with some of that sound testing in it 00:55:34.040 --> 00:55:37.080 The article will explain what we're doing how we're doing it and we'll collect feedback 00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:42.440 And then the video will show experimental graphs and we can get some input on like 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:48.440 What the graphs show can people understand what we're trying to convey with the graph that type of stuff 00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.280 Yeah, it's coming along things are happening. It'll be good 00:55:55.800 --> 00:56:02.360 Uh, all right. Hold on. Sorry. I'm just uh, but again, we'll probably talk about that more probably on when when those articles are actually 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:08.280 Posted up. So I don't want to talk too much about it right now. All right. So 40 60 ti 16 gig 00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:13.160 There are some silver linings according to hardware unboxed and our numbers. Sorry. Yeah, thank you 00:56:13.560 --> 00:56:19.880 It appears to range from 10 to 20 faster than the 40 60 ti in both 1080p and 1440p while being 00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:26.200 $70 cheaper than last gen at msrp The issue is whether you can get it at that price 00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:30.440 the good news though the even better gooder news is that 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:38.680 There is another card that you can buy for 1080p and even light 1440p gaming that appears to be getting 00:56:39.160 --> 00:56:47.640 Much more affordable Even though one user user posted on r slash Intel ark who was upset about not being able to find stock 00:56:48.200 --> 00:56:54.680 Several people in the comments said they are getting them no problem with minimal markup over msrp 00:56:55.080 --> 00:56:59.320 So our notes here say Da da da da da da go shopping 00:57:00.200 --> 00:57:03.000 For a b580. So here let's uh 00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:10.680 Let's take uh, let's take my let's take my laptop for a little spin Intel b580. No statement 00:57:11.720 --> 00:57:17.960 Don't Stop it. Okay. Intel b580. How are we doing here? What do you think luke? Here before don't don't look don't look 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:21.820 At the screen don't look at the screen. Okay. What do you think? Do you think b580 will be in stock? 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:30.960 uh no No, okay go with no if it's in stock. Okay, let's create a branching. Yeah situation here if it's in stock 00:57:31.720 --> 00:57:38.280 Bearing in mind that it's MSRP like Intel's MSRP price for a base card is 250 US dollars 00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:42.120 What do you think the price will be 350 350? Okay, let's go shopping 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:47.120 Okay, well the gunner is in stock and is 379 00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.040 but This onyx is 00:57:51.160 --> 00:57:54.760 329 this one is 319 last time I looked there was no stock 00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:58.200 So this is kind of cool that there is actually stock in stock 19 is really good 00:57:58.200 --> 00:58:01.080 I don't know who the crap onyx is media 00:58:01.600 --> 00:58:07.860 But their Odyssey arc 12 gig card is 320. What's smoking? Okay, so hold on a second 00:58:07.860 --> 00:58:12.760 It's on sale to a sir a sir nitro add to cart 319 00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:16.800 He's looking cooler Intel until it. Oh, hold on. What is this? 00:58:17.720 --> 00:58:20.480 See price and cut 395 get get real 00:58:22.040 --> 00:58:28.680 Okay, what else we got here what else we got here Okay, this one's out of stock this one for 260 is out of stock. Okay, but hold on a second 00:58:28.680 --> 00:58:37.520 Hold on a second. Hear me out here Because this is where things get crazy apparently Intel arc is still experiencing some shortages in the US 00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:44.880 but in other markets Apparently it has it has chilled out a lot and 00:58:46.080 --> 00:58:48.640 That appears to be very true 00:58:49.640 --> 00:58:51.640 Check this out 00:58:53.400 --> 00:59:01.120 Intel arc limited edition 359 that's cad that is Canadian dollars. Hold on a second here 00:59:01.240 --> 00:59:04.280 Dude, I looked like two weeks ago and they're out of stock everywhere 00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:09.240 See what there the stock is at the individual hold on hold on hold on hold on cat to USD 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.760 That is ten dollars over MSRP 00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:22.040 which in Normal times still over MSRP would not be that exciting to me. Yeah, but in the ten now in the ten now times 00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:26.640 Is actually quite exciting? Let's go ahead and check 00:59:26.640 --> 00:59:32.200 They have one in Edmonton West. They have one in Victoria. Okay, not a ton of stock not a ton of stock 00:59:32.200 --> 00:59:36.920 Okay, so they're they're not out of stock now, but there's like almost none. But can I order it online? 00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:46.360 Added one to your cart. I Can order this in Canada right now for two hundred and sixty US dollars and 00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:55.480 That is pretty good is a lot of gaming card for two hundred and sixty US dollars. Yeah, so I 00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:58.880 believe I 01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:10.120 Inventory coming in of these Intel arc cards Even if it's not enough to satisfy the appetite of the US market, which apparently is 01:00:10.680 --> 01:00:13.720 Experiencing a surge in retail shopping right now 01:00:14.040 --> 01:00:20.200 So the timing could be part of it Intel might have allocated enough B580 to the US 01:00:20.600 --> 01:00:25.080 Only to realize too late that US shoppers are 01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:32.280 Hoovering up consumer products right now in anticipation that pricing could go up due to the tariff situation 01:00:33.120 --> 01:00:38.600 And I've been experiencing that first hand on LTT Store. So reminder 01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:48.040 We have extended the Shipstorm sale event worldwide free shipping on orders over 150 dollars to help our American friends down there 01:00:49.120 --> 01:00:54.000 Get anything that they need before Whatever impacts 01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:58.840 Ultimately affect us from the tariffs as well as toes, you know say hey buddy 01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.440 Hope you and the rest of the world love to have products from LTT Store.com 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:14.560 So shipstorm sale event still ongoing and has been strong crazy strong has been has been crazy. So I am 01:01:17.080 --> 01:01:19.920 Optimistic for Intel arc, it's like 01:01:21.160 --> 01:01:28.560 Okay, new CEO with his name lip butan. I think something like that. It doesn't matter the point is if you're watching right now 01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:33.480 If you happen to be watching if anyone if anyone, you know, you've got you got the Intel CEO and your DMs, okay 01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:37.040 You clip this. Okay, you clip this you send them Please 01:01:37.040 --> 01:01:39.920 Don't give up on arc desktop. Yeah 01:01:40.520 --> 01:01:45.360 Gamers need you the gaming market needs you. Okay, it might be too late 01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:47.840 It might be too late to bring back the higher-end battle mage 01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:52.320 Discrete GPUs. It is not too late for Celestial. Okay 01:01:53.040 --> 01:02:00.360 Yeah, do it do the full line up for Celestial because that team that team has been working so hard 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:06.600 Okay, dude, dude the fact the fact that in a few short years they have gone from 01:02:07.040 --> 01:02:12.240 Intel HD graphics essentially, you know in terms of the drive great competitor to a legitimate 01:02:12.720 --> 01:02:21.520 Discrete competitor. I know the margins aren't great right now We know that for our fact because we know the die sizes. Okay, and we know what process. It's built on it's built at TSMC 01:02:21.520 --> 01:02:26.680 So they are they're under the same cost pressure that AMD or NVIDIA are on these arc GPUs 01:02:26.680 --> 01:02:34.480 I can understand why they might not be that incentivized to build a ton of them But but they're on to something they're on to something. This is this is good. This is important 01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:41.080 This is a billion dollar industry that as far as I can tell NVIDIA is completely not paying attention to right now 01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:46.200 They they have they are they are on complete autopilot 01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:51.160 Do it I want to show one more thing for the lab site before 01:02:51.640 --> 01:02:59.640 because I Forgot that I could show this hold on one more thing Steven J says Linus memory express also has a bunch of B580 challengers on their site 01:03:00.160 --> 01:03:02.280 for 409 CAD which is 01:03:03.640 --> 01:03:11.120 About 35 or 40 US dollars over MSRP, but that's like an OC card. Yeah, so that's not even it's probably gonna be over MSRP 01:03:11.120 --> 01:03:14.960 Not even ridiculous. Yeah, I see them. I see them. I see them here here here here here 01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:19.800 So here's they have these challengers as well as rock challenger OC nice. Yeah 01:03:20.680 --> 01:03:25.520 They have more stock. Oh, dude, they got tons of these. Let's go ten plus it like every store 01:03:25.520 --> 01:03:29.880 I could I could literally go to the Langley store Walk in and buy one right now 01:03:31.120 --> 01:03:34.600 For here 409, but that's such a normal sounding thing 01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:38.520 You can't because it's closed because it's a holiday 01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:48.960 So for 40 for $46 over MSRP I could have a challenger OC card when they open tomorrow. Yeah 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:54.760 Speaking of things being not the right prices remember, I think it was two weeks ago 01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:58.360 We talked about the bring your own price feature for the Labs website. Yes 01:03:59.080 --> 01:04:03.880 This is not This is not 01:04:05.080 --> 01:04:08.280 This is not ready yet. This was a hackathon project 01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:12.560 So Liam the same person who championed it internally originally he mentioned 01:04:12.560 --> 01:04:19.560 I think he got it from a comment somewhere or something But he was one that brought it up in the meeting he then chose this as his hackathon project 01:04:19.560 --> 01:04:24.160 And made a version of it now before you're like, oh, I don't like how this thing or that thing works 01:04:24.160 --> 01:04:30.200 It was a hackathon project. Leave it alone. It's it has not gone through UX UI any that kind of stuff 01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:37.280 But this is so you can see add prices as a button here. It's 15 seconds. So just prepping you a little bit 01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:40.480 You've got these cards. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Okay, okay 01:04:41.640 --> 01:04:46.200 Okay, you can plug in your own prices for the cards. Oh, buddy. Oh, buddy 01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:50.920 Oh, buddy close it and then the graph updates 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:58.400 And it works hackathon project functionally you can disable or enable price per frame we were kind of thinking that 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:05.960 Dan brought this up Dan Siegel on the team. That's pretty was thinking that that should probably just add a line 01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:11.520 So it should show all the previous data, but add a line so you can still see the other things 01:05:11.520 --> 01:05:14.840 I think that's a pretty neat idea the modal could look better 01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:17.760 Whatever that those none of that it's a hackathon. Nobody cared 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:24.200 That's pretty cool. Okay, pretty can I not probably number one. It's not coming soon. Go away. Can I propose? 01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.360 Maybe a fundamental problem 01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:33.840 Sure, I know I know this is a big. Oh, not really. We have lots of other stuff to work on good 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:40.920 Okay, cuz and this is I think this is gonna be somewhat controversial because I think a lot of the audience is gonna disagree with me on this 01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:44.080 Okay, but oh boy, how do I say this without? 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:46.880 without causing a stir I 01:05:48.160 --> 01:05:51.360 Felt that that was an accurate way to assess 01:05:51.720 --> 01:05:57.240 FPS per dollar and price to performance until I thought about it more. I 01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:03.640 Think you need to think about it more because this was something that kind of blew my mind 01:06:04.080 --> 01:06:09.240 When I was when I was trying to wrap my brain around and this would have been way back in the day 01:06:09.240 --> 01:06:13.160 Okay, I believe the card that we were discussing was 01:06:14.160 --> 01:06:24.280 Was it it might have been the 8800 ultra do you remember the 8800 ultra it was the 8800 GTX with a different plastic shroud on it 01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:28.920 And it was like overclocked 10% or something and it was like 01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:33.880 $300 more or something like that those numbers might be a little bit wrong 01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:41.760 but the fundamental the fundamentals are right that it was the same GPU on the same PCB with 01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:49.400 Functionally the same cooler, but a cooler shroud for hundreds of dollars more. Okay 8800 ultra and 01:06:50.080 --> 01:06:58.560 I I was working on our PC like configurator and I was like adamantly opposed to a card like that 01:06:58.560 --> 01:07:04.280 I was like, this is actually stupid and all you got to do is get MSI afterburner and turn it up 10% 01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:07.760 Which every 8800 GTX will do so why does anyone care about this at all? 01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:11.400 We shouldn't even we shouldn't even stock it was pretty much my perspective on it 01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:15.120 I was like, this is the stupidest thing ever. No one should buy it. Okay. Okay 01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:25.320 But hear me out While the FPS per dollar of an 8800 ultra and an 8800 GTX if you look at it this way a 01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:34.640 $1,000 versus $700 and this one gets 10% more performance for what would it work out to a 40% more price? 01:07:34.640 --> 01:07:38.360 Basically, it's a stupid thing for completely stupid people 01:07:38.640 --> 01:07:44.280 But and this was explained to me in a way that I kind of was combative 01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:48.120 Against and didn't understand for a while until it 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:53.640 finally clicked Well, the math is actually that math is actually completely flawed 01:07:54.680 --> 01:07:58.720 because most people are buying a computer system and 01:07:59.680 --> 01:08:06.200 In the context of you hold on hold on no no trust me trust me in the context of your entire computer system 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:08.480 That costs $3,000 01:08:09.680 --> 01:08:15.000 Spending another $300 to have 10% more performance could actually make perfect sense 01:08:16.160 --> 01:08:21.520 Okay, so for that reason I think we actually need to consider 01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:26.440 The cost of the system when we do these calculations 01:08:27.440 --> 01:08:35.360 Because otherwise I think that we are because the cost of that FPS is not just the GPU 01:08:36.200 --> 01:08:43.080 That is not actually accurate unless you're doing an upgrade if you are doing an upgrade it kind of is 01:08:44.280 --> 01:08:46.920 But that comparison would realistically 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:55.000 Like you still paid for that system though I don't think just because you do the math one time that you can't consider anything else in the scenario 01:08:56.040 --> 01:09:01.520 Anything else in the scenario like I of course you have to consider your total system cost and the 01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:07.680 Impact of that difference on the total system cost might be x percentage of the total system cost that you're expending 01:09:08.080 --> 01:09:15.280 But that I don't think that makes the the frame for dollar equation irrelevant. I think it I think it makes it 01:09:15.440 --> 01:09:20.520 It's it's more drastic than it. Yes, but I think that's up for the user to understand 01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:26.440 But I could help communicate I don't think a lot of them do and that's the challenges every time I bring up this argument 01:09:26.440 --> 01:09:35.520 I have people kind of Again, I'm sorry not understanding it because they seem to be something we can solve by communicating to the users 01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:38.360 I don't know we say on there like 01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:47.160 Make sure that you consider What if we what if we suggested that people put in the total system cost? 01:09:47.160 --> 01:09:52.120 I think that would be fine because my my issue is the in its current form 01:09:52.120 --> 01:09:56.720 It feels like a graph that doesn't start at zero. You like to zoomed in. Yeah 01:09:58.440 --> 01:10:02.840 That's the best. I think that's the most succinct way of explaining what I'm trying to 01:10:03.480 --> 01:10:07.480 What I'm the point I'm trying to make here. No, I think your point is super valid 01:10:07.480 --> 01:10:10.920 I just I think there. I don't think that means don't build it in my opinion. Oh 01:10:12.400 --> 01:10:16.960 Yeah, like change how you communicate it or something we need to we need to fundamentally 01:10:17.240 --> 01:10:23.600 Think about how we are presenting this information to make sure that people aren't getting the wrong impression 01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:28.320 Yeah, that's super fair. I think I think like let me see here. I'm gonna bring it back up 01:10:28.440 --> 01:10:35.060 I bet you you could almost solve it by like just to that can you see my mouse just to the left of this box? 01:10:36.400 --> 01:10:41.040 You could put like total system cost with this card or make it more simple than that 01:10:41.040 --> 01:10:47.640 Yeah, like inform them of what to put in the box. Yeah, you could maybe even have examples or something 01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:51.400 I don't know we could do a little bloggy post explaining how people will do it 01:10:51.400 --> 01:10:56.320 But then you know that'll be buried two years after it's posted and no one will see it 01:10:56.320 --> 01:11:02.240 But we can like try to help guide people as much as we can but I yeah, I don't think I don't think that means 01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:07.640 We should still build the feature. Yeah, but I understand. Yeah, and I think that's a good point 01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:13.800 Hathos has a really great example in the Floatplane chat that uses real math. Sure. My recent build was seven thousand dollars 01:11:14.160 --> 01:11:18.400 Of that. We don't know what currency they're talking. So I don't know but probably a lot 01:11:19.400 --> 01:11:22.680 But the GPU was thirty five hundred dollars 01:11:23.200 --> 01:11:25.800 Had I gone with a 90 70 XT? 01:11:26.320 --> 01:11:30.760 I would have 63% of the gaming performance. I have today at 01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:37.180 58% of the cost so oddly enough Linus's argument works. Yeah, no 01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:43.080 It definitely works. I don't think it's odd even it just definitely. Yeah, but it's like but that's okay 01:11:43.080 --> 01:11:47.240 So I kind of defaulted just that being something that people would consider when they're looking at this stuff 01:11:47.240 --> 01:11:51.560 But I understand the argument that they won't so okay and the challenge with upgrade 01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:56.640 To people is that I think that it still applies just especially at the high end 01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:01.080 The numbers are gonna be kind of skewed. Yeah, because if you aren't building a new system 01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.120 You weren't actually getting all of that performance 01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:08.960 Because you're bound to be bottlenecked by the rest of your system. This is where I was kind of okay 01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:14.320 So fair enough, but this is kind of where I was thinking like I was hoping people were understanding the whole equation as well 01:12:14.320 --> 01:12:17.920 Because if you're upgrading you're probably flipping your GPU to probably now 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:25.880 It's really the price is really the Delta. Yes, so it's like but I so I want people to but how do we do this without it being like 01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:29.440 Like a macro laden excel sheet that you like punch 01:12:31.440 --> 01:12:37.680 An article you have to read like I want to be like a user manual like a PDF you download before you interact 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:45.200 Use your user manual for your five text boxes You have to scroll the way through the page and certify that you have read the user manual before you interact with this page, right? 01:12:45.200 --> 01:12:53.040 Like I just want to make sure That we are considering. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a good. That's all good the different ways of doing the math here 01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:59.400 Because I want this to be a really useful tool and I don't want anyone to go. Oh, yeah 01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:05.680 Well, okay, man What would be an example of like where they would accidentally spend too much? 01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:12.360 Probably that wouldn't happen because I think it mostly it damages the value proposition of the higher end stuff 01:13:12.360 --> 01:13:17.880 It would generally skew down But I'd hate for people to like that example in the in the chat 01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:26.160 I'd hate for people to spend a thousand dollars on their computer and then buy the thing for a hundred bucks 01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:30.760 That performs, you know, oh man, how do I how do I explain this? 01:13:31.240 --> 01:13:36.320 Whatever the point is at a certain point if you're spending enough on the rest of your system 01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:40.520 There's better value to be had by actually spending a little bit 01:13:41.240 --> 01:13:47.800 But a lot more on your GPU like you could you could get a better value spending double on your GPU $200 versus $100 01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:56.360 For a GPU that performs only 20% better because now your budget is $1,200 and is 20% better versus about versus 01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:02.240 $1,100 and it's 20% less or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, 20% less depends on your tasking, right? 01:14:02.240 --> 01:14:05.760 Like if you're doing something that's super super CPU heavy that might not be true 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:08.240 But then it's true for the CPU instead 01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:11.440 It kind of depends on the thing that you're focusing on 01:14:12.120 --> 01:14:16.600 We'll figure it out guys. We're gonna figure it out. Yeah, there has to be some way 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:22.800 There has to be a way to to present this information and make sure that we don't we don't bamboozle 01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:25.960 We don't bamboozle everyone into buying a B580 01:14:27.200 --> 01:14:31.400 Yeah, there that's the point. I'm trying to get to if you're spending 01:14:32.080 --> 01:14:35.640 $500 on your base platform you buy a B580, right? 01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:39.920 But if you're spending $2,000 on your platform and you're buying a B580 01:14:40.200 --> 01:14:45.800 It's the best bang for the buck doing something wrong It's the best bang for the buck in a vacuum against other GPUs 01:14:46.240 --> 01:14:54.800 But in the context of that $2,000 system It is not the best bang for the buck and you are leaving a ton of performance and a ton of wasted budget on those other things 01:14:55.200 --> 01:15:00.800 Completely on the table regardless of whether you're buying them today or you bought them already. It's not a good balance 01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:03.560 I want to help people find a balanced 01:15:04.040 --> 01:15:09.320 Configuration yeah, like we're gonna be talking about this at the all-hands so a little bit of a spoiler, but like one of the 01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:15.320 Things that the Labs website wants to work on over the next who knows how long is 01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:22.680 Trying to help get people to final decision more so right now. It's a really good info dump page for nerds 01:15:23.040 --> 01:15:26.560 Yes, but it doesn't really help you which is great 01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:31.560 Yeah, but it doesn't really help you get to a final decision It can refine you down a little bit 01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:35.920 Yeah, maybe if you use the comparison page properly and stuff it can help get you sort of there 01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:44.120 But it doesn't really drive you to a final decision And there's there's a number of things that we can do better and do more of do differently whatever that can help get us there 01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:49.040 There's a ton really one of them is these types of things 01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:56.960 So we want to we want to do more of it someone mentioned a unique username said maybe also consider power consumption if you want to over complicate it 01:15:56.960 --> 01:16:01.300 I think that's a different chart. Oh, yeah, that is something that we could do 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.520 Total cost of ownership analysis and like yeah try to integrate 01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:12.880 You know on the on the top x-axis like the acoustics and like we're gonna end up with a chart nobody can read 01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:18.240 Yeah, I think it's already gonna be complicated when we try to work in this messaging around total system cost 01:16:19.280 --> 01:16:23.400 But it is something that I would like I would like to see us integrate 01:16:23.400 --> 01:16:31.320 I really I think there's I think there's ways to do it Like I think there's even things that we could do where like if you put it is the wizard version 01:16:32.200 --> 01:16:35.000 There could maybe be a wizard version. That's more depth 01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:42.400 In the graph graph version It could basically be that and we expect people to kind of figure it out on their own or they could have an input field for whatever 01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:49.600 But in the wizard version you basically just go hey, here's my system or like here's here's how much my system cost 01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:57.480 Recommend here's my config and how much I paid for it Recommend the best bang for the buck GPU upgrade because then we have all the information 01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:03.720 We know what kind of budget you're shopping in and we can just be like yeah, this may be surprising, but you actually 01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:11.560 Are best off with a RTX 5090 because anything else would be sort of leaving a ton of performance on the system 01:17:12.280 --> 01:17:17.960 Yeah, yeah, it's like go to the beach in in dress shoes. I drank like three of these today. I'll be right back. You're watching me 01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:24.680 It was something we could do as you're getting up and walking is make it so that if you this might be really really annoying 01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:28.160 But we could make it so that there's general expectations for prices for GPUs 01:17:28.160 --> 01:17:34.400 And if you put that in instead of a system it could put a little warning triangle and the warning triangle would link you to the article 01:17:34.480 --> 01:17:41.520 explaining why he understands now, but It could link you to the article explaining why you should probably put in your system cost 01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:47.400 But then it's up to the user right the user could just choose to ignore it. Where's the this way nice 01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:55.600 the user could just choose to ignore it and then just look at the GPU in a vacuum because that will still be interesting for people 01:17:56.040 --> 01:18:01.920 That is still a useful and interesting number. It's just could be misleading when you're looking to buy a whole computer 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:06.760 So Yeah, I don't know There's a variety of ways that we do it 01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:10.240 Some of them are very annoying on the dev team like the one that I just mentioned 01:18:10.240 --> 01:18:14.080 So I don't know the dev team and anyone doing data entry 01:18:14.080 --> 01:18:17.880 So I don't know if we necessarily actually want to do that because it's super tedious 01:18:18.360 --> 01:18:22.120 But there's probably a variety of other ways of doing it as well. So 01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:30.960 We'll figure it out But yeah, there's there's there's a ton of things that we can do with the Labs website. We're planning on 01:18:32.080 --> 01:18:40.380 We're planning a lot of stuff I probably should stop talking to be completely honest because every every time I talk about potential future features for 01:18:41.380 --> 01:18:43.820 For anything all that anyone 01:18:44.860 --> 01:18:50.860 Talks about in just drop the potential in chat. Yeah, yeah, they completely drop the potential 01:18:50.860 --> 01:18:55.760 They assume it is the number one priority thing that we're working on now when like in reality 01:18:56.380 --> 01:18:58.380 a lot of the 01:18:59.380 --> 01:19:07.500 Tasking for high priority stuff for the lab right now is like working on better graphing tools for the local team and 01:19:08.420 --> 01:19:13.700 improving some of the data entry stuff that local team has to do in order to get articles up and 01:19:15.380 --> 01:19:20.300 Doing some revisions to some of the product pages that we currently have like introducing 01:19:21.260 --> 01:19:25.100 New graphs to the power supply verticals doing some revamping stuff 01:19:25.100 --> 01:19:28.460 Maybe the keyboard and mouse because I haven't been touched in a long time things like that 01:19:30.500 --> 01:19:34.580 Not not the like sexy new feature development stuff, so 01:19:35.060 --> 01:19:40.860 You know, but it's it's coming. It'll happen in summary buy an Intel Arc B580 01:19:42.460 --> 01:19:48.740 In every scenario in every scenario because it's always always the best bang for the buck. Yeah 01:19:52.540 --> 01:19:59.820 Yes, I washed here nice yeah, or it's P one of the two one of the two or both I could have watched poorly 01:20:00.820 --> 01:20:07.500 That's possible. I mean, I guess It could have been more than just water and pee at least three actually that would have taken longer 01:20:09.700 --> 01:20:11.940 That while you're walking I 01:20:13.660 --> 01:20:15.660 Didn't know for sure that the building was empty 01:20:17.180 --> 01:20:19.180 It's even more reason to 01:20:20.220 --> 01:20:23.860 I don't need I don't need this is your building line is look I 01:20:24.700 --> 01:20:29.820 Have gone home. We talked about this 01:20:31.060 --> 01:20:35.700 It's after hours. I have enough scandals when I like didn't actually do anything. I 01:20:36.340 --> 01:20:39.300 Don't need to actually expose myself in the office. Oh 01:20:40.740 --> 01:20:45.260 Man, all right. What are we supposed to be doing? Let's explain the merge messages 01:20:45.260 --> 01:20:49.140 Ah, yes merge messages. Well, I can see that quite a few of you have figured them out already 01:20:49.140 --> 01:20:53.820 Oh, how are your fingers doing there, Dan? Pretty good. It's not quite as 01:20:53.860 --> 01:20:59.140 Bad as last week. Well, I haven't reminded the people that there's free shipping on lttstore.com now 01:20:59.140 --> 01:21:05.380 It's gonna be as bad as I'm sorry free shipping on lttstore.com on all orders over 01:21:06.820 --> 01:21:11.060 $150 that is worldwide. We are extending the deadline 01:21:11.580 --> 01:21:15.660 It is now until Tuesday April 22 at 10 a.m. Pacific time 01:21:15.820 --> 01:21:21.060 This is largely because the team has been doing an incredible job getting orders out and we are 01:21:21.940 --> 01:21:27.580 Less concerned that those orders are not going to make it over the border before May 2nd 01:21:27.580 --> 01:21:33.660 Which is when According to the current guidance a bunch more tariff stuff is supposed to kick in or something like that 01:21:33.660 --> 01:21:39.420 So we've got a bit more time to take in orders that we will that we will be able to get over before any tariffs will 01:21:39.740 --> 01:21:46.060 Impact the costs on them So now is a better time than ever to check out the MCM essential solution 01:21:46.340 --> 01:21:51.700 Which is running at just $80. We also have our magnetic cable management starter kit 01:21:52.340 --> 01:21:58.980 Which is just to give you guys kind of a taste you can check it out You get a power bar key so that is for those little like keyhole things you put it in there 01:21:58.980 --> 01:22:03.260 You screw it on and they're also great for holding up anything that uses a quarter 20 mount 01:22:03.540 --> 01:22:07.380 So it's threaded for that so I could like you could like mount a you know camera with it 01:22:07.380 --> 01:22:11.860 Yeah, nice strong magnet the base just unscrews and then it's like a circle with a yeah 01:22:12.420 --> 01:22:17.260 Super super handy cable tie holder medium and small arches and with a bunch of the different grip plates 01:22:17.260 --> 01:22:21.300 So you can get an idea of exactly what it is that you that you that you would want 01:22:21.940 --> 01:22:29.500 Great time to pick up a commuter backpack This has been one of the top movers and of course there's all the classics right northern lights desk pad available in any size you want 01:22:29.500 --> 01:22:36.660 We've got the great Configurator on there so that you can see how it's gonna look on your desk depending on the width that you have what kind of desk pad 01:22:36.660 --> 01:22:41.460 You want move it around you can add a Monitor we still have that right. Oh, yeah, there is show peripherals 01:22:41.460 --> 01:22:46.340 You can kind of see what it's gonna look like but but but but but but but that is a fantastic little tool 01:22:46.340 --> 01:22:52.820 The team whipped up the og backpack. It's been surprising to me. I thought the commuter backpack was gonna cannibalize it 01:22:52.820 --> 01:22:57.200 Were you talking about the desk configurator? Yeah, those just Conrad. Oh great job Conrad 01:22:58.100 --> 01:23:03.700 So the og backpack I thought the commuter was gonna cannibalize it. It has actually caused the og backpack to 01:23:04.740 --> 01:23:09.420 Go up in sales Kind of makes sense to me actually I 01:23:10.100 --> 01:23:12.940 Would have originally assumed the same as you did 01:23:13.740 --> 01:23:17.020 but I get Why I think 01:23:17.020 --> 01:23:22.940 Why I don't because if you here if you see a review because there's some people that have covered it and you know 01:23:22.940 --> 01:23:32.060 The people will talk about it what not about this good backpack You might look into it and then go hmm. I wanted a bigger one and then go oh the same company made a bigger one 01:23:32.060 --> 01:23:37.060 It looks great. I'll get that one, right? I guess we've kind of gotten we've gone beyond just our audience at this point 01:23:37.220 --> 01:23:43.180 So that didn't really I sometimes it's hard for me to wrap my brain around that that is a bit of a newer thing. Yeah, yeah 01:23:44.780 --> 01:23:51.560 Like oh, this is this is pretty wild We have a big shipment of blank shirts coming because which is good because a lot of them are stuck 01:23:52.660 --> 01:23:58.140 Including tall and I think the tall is like I think we pushed that one out of stock too 01:23:58.140 --> 01:24:03.700 Our business team has apparently been getting a ton of inquiries from just like random people who work at random companies that are like 01:24:03.700 --> 01:24:08.300 Yeah, well, they want the blanks your blanks are like way better than like what all of our corporate apparel 01:24:08.300 --> 01:24:15.060 Let's go. We have not found a better balance. So like do you guys do that? And we're like no, but I mean 01:24:15.500 --> 01:24:20.820 First time for everything. Yeah, it was a good. It was a good week or so lots more coming 01:24:21.740 --> 01:24:27.860 Three days. Are there gonna be anything other than just black because I'm only gonna have black shirts 01:24:29.860 --> 01:24:37.500 I tried one on the other week I might have been might have been yesterday. Oh, he's a day before coach potato. Yeah, they didn't give it to me 01:24:37.500 --> 01:24:43.800 Oh, all right, because there aren't any in stock There's a different color of a t-shirt 01:24:44.540 --> 01:24:49.700 Okay, we're working on it. Okay. I'm stoked. Anyway, the point is you can also pick up a scribe driver 01:24:51.300 --> 01:24:57.020 Spoiler precision multi bit is one of the ones that is almost guaranteed to go up in price 01:24:57.020 --> 01:25:01.300 If the tariffs do get implemented the way that we currently anticipate that they will 01:25:02.100 --> 01:25:04.820 So now would be a really good time to pick up a precision 01:25:06.740 --> 01:25:10.500 Anyway, where was I going with that? Right? So if you want to send a merch message 01:25:10.500 --> 01:25:13.500 All you got to do is add some items to your cart and 01:25:14.100 --> 01:25:20.500 You will see the merch message box You go ahead and leave a message and it will go to producer Dan who will 01:25:21.300 --> 01:25:27.100 Respond to it or curate it for me and Luke by the way, and when you're in the cart, don't forget the bonus bin 01:25:27.220 --> 01:25:31.540 You can get stickers cool 01:25:31.540 --> 01:25:36.220 Dan do you want to show us how merch messages work by reading out a couple curated ones? Yeah, sure 01:25:36.220 --> 01:25:40.260 I wasn't sure if you covered this at the top of the show, but I got this one very easily 01:25:41.100 --> 01:25:44.820 Linus the incoming is blowing up now. I know Linus 01:25:45.100 --> 01:25:50.660 Do you think NVIDIA will ever increase the stock of like dozen series GPUs to meet demand or do we all just give up? 01:25:50.660 --> 01:25:53.660 Hope until the next series so I don't know how much truth there is to this 01:25:53.660 --> 01:25:57.300 But I read an article that someone wrote somewhere for some publication 01:25:57.300 --> 01:26:07.340 I forget who it was and I forget what site it was so I don't know how credible it was but what I read was that their Blackwell data center GPUs have not been particularly well received and 01:26:08.020 --> 01:26:12.540 some of their customers that had bought into Blackwell heavily 01:26:13.180 --> 01:26:23.380 Before NVIDIA was shipping it have been Disappointed by the power and cooling requirements and general buggy-ness and have actually been preferring to fall back to hopper based systems 01:26:24.060 --> 01:26:28.860 What that would indicate to me if true and this was speculation 01:26:29.660 --> 01:26:33.340 Speculation from that article, so I'm not going to take credit for it 01:26:33.660 --> 01:26:41.420 But what that could mean is that NVIDIA might be incentivized to push some of their their wafer bookings 01:26:42.900 --> 01:26:47.900 For Blackwell to consumer GPUs rather than their more lucrative AI 01:26:48.620 --> 01:26:55.220 Enterprise and data center GPUs interesting if that is the case and this was this was weeks ago 01:26:55.220 --> 01:26:59.900 So if that is the case then sometime in the now a few weeks 01:27:00.580 --> 01:27:06.940 We could potentially see a dramatic loosening of supply for 50 series and it does appear that it's kind of happening already 01:27:07.460 --> 01:27:10.540 Not in the US so much again just like with Intel Arc 01:27:10.540 --> 01:27:17.660 It seems like the US is a little late to catch up which I think they're not really used to like I think other countries are like super used to 01:27:17.980 --> 01:27:22.420 You know an MSRP being announced and availability being announced and them being like okay. Well, I guess 01:27:23.060 --> 01:27:27.100 Some months from now. We'll get it for some dollars get it for some amount of dollars 01:27:28.420 --> 01:27:34.180 But I think there's just so much pent up GPU demand in the US from just years of drought that 01:27:35.020 --> 01:27:38.580 It's just hoovering up anything that anyone can ship into it. So 01:27:39.580 --> 01:27:43.460 So things are do seem to be loosening up a little bit on 50 series 01:27:43.460 --> 01:27:51.140 But I think there's a lot more work for NVIDIA to do to help to stabilize pricing at somewhere near MSRP and I if 01:27:51.740 --> 01:27:58.380 They are they are not selling through as much of their their Blackwell data center GPUs as they would hope I would it would 01:27:58.380 --> 01:28:06.420 Certainly be in their best interest to use those wafers to make desktop GPUs rather than just I don't know try to renege on their contract or whatever 01:28:06.420 --> 01:28:09.180 Like they're still selling desktop GPUs profitably. It's just not as 01:28:09.940 --> 01:28:16.740 profitable, right Now how about some announcements? Oh, are we doing one merge message? 01:28:17.420 --> 01:28:21.860 Well, we're doing a new method. We're doing a new method. Just read the 01:28:23.580 --> 01:28:30.660 Just read the thing. Okay, so just the CW. What is it? Go fuck yourself San Diego. Is that just just read the thing read the line Bart? 01:28:32.180 --> 01:28:37.340 Cowabunga, sorry. Well, no, I didn't do it. I think that's what it was. I think it's I didn't do it 01:28:37.340 --> 01:28:41.460 Okay, sorry, what am I supposed to be reading? But just the CW one. Where is it? 01:28:42.460 --> 01:28:53.180 A segue to this. Oh, but I just did that Okay, did you? Yeah, I think so you have until Tuesday to get LTD store over 150 the magnetic cable management 01:28:53.180 --> 01:28:58.260 Yeah, I talked through it. Okay, cool. I go to LTD store comm and make sure that you use this opportunity to get 01:28:58.260 --> 01:29:03.780 I think you did do this. I did it. All right. Okay. Hi, Luke. Then it's two merge messages. I went it to become two 01:29:03.780 --> 01:29:08.020 Well, wait, what's the Floatplane announcement? Well comes after a merchant. I didn't agree to any of this 01:29:08.020 --> 01:29:12.980 I don't know what's happening. They changed on us. Oh, oh, there's a whole it could be one merge message up here. Oh 01:29:13.740 --> 01:29:17.620 I see this could be one. Well, we'll do to but I thought we'd give people a long 01:29:18.420 --> 01:29:24.980 There's like an agenda now. Yeah. Well, that's so professional in a document and everything there was before but now 01:29:24.980 --> 01:29:30.700 It's different. None of us read it apparently for like a long time. I mean, yeah, why would I exactly? 01:29:31.340 --> 01:29:37.660 Cuz I write them for me And then I don't read them anymore because they're for my reference like man 01:29:37.660 --> 01:29:44.100 We're all gonna gloss over this during the show Yeah, I thought it was just like a checklist for the preparation of the doc to like make sure that we kind of knew 01:29:44.140 --> 01:29:51.460 What we're gonna be talking about. I didn't think it was for the actual hosts I told them that we will also never read it in the future. So they just need to tell us when there's a change 01:29:51.660 --> 01:29:56.660 Yeah, yeah, tell me and then I tell you you guys don't even have to worry about it literally ever 01:29:56.660 --> 01:30:01.060 Yeah, let's do that. Sure. Yeah, cuz realistically Dan's gonna be here because if he wasn't here 01:30:01.060 --> 01:30:05.820 He would end the streak and there's no way he's gonna allow that to happen. Look at this guy. Look at this man. He's cold 01:30:05.820 --> 01:30:09.900 He's calculating. He's Cryptic he's 01:30:12.140 --> 01:30:15.940 Commanding that one doesn't start with a K. Okay 01:30:17.660 --> 01:30:24.100 Now we do another merge message because now we're immediately out of order. It's all gone wrong. Yeah 01:30:25.420 --> 01:30:34.180 Hit me Dan. Oh world class. Hi Luke Do you often talk you often talk about gaming or dopamine addiction and the harm it does have you read? 01:30:34.300 --> 01:30:39.940 Dopamine nation or anxious generation your hunches and references line up well with the research. Oh 01:30:40.500 --> 01:30:42.780 Wow, that's good to know. I haven't read either 01:30:43.980 --> 01:30:47.540 I've heard of both of those but I haven't read either of them 01:30:48.540 --> 01:30:53.900 But I'm happy that I'm not so far off. I in to be honest. I think it's pretty obvious 01:30:54.100 --> 01:30:58.500 I suspect most people know they just don't do anything about it 01:30:58.500 --> 01:31:02.660 I suspect you overestimate the capacity of most people 01:31:04.340 --> 01:31:10.940 All right, fair enough That might be true George Carlin's famous bit think about the averageest person, you know 01:31:14.940 --> 01:31:21.820 The really interesting research is how dramatically people overestimate where they fall on an IQ bell curve 01:31:22.260 --> 01:31:29.300 How like dramatically over half of people will think that they are above 100 points when actually that is 01:31:29.460 --> 01:31:32.900 Not possible because that's literally not how that scale works at all 01:31:34.220 --> 01:31:37.300 It's pretty it's pretty interesting. Well, the thing is you have to be 01:31:38.100 --> 01:31:41.060 You have to be smart to know that you're not that smart 01:31:41.620 --> 01:31:45.980 You know something is interesting to me and this is not exactly in line with what you were saying 01:31:45.980 --> 01:31:50.500 but something that's interesting to me is the like 01:31:50.500 --> 01:31:55.380 If you're like, I'm in the 75th percentile for performance band at this thing 01:31:55.780 --> 01:32:01.020 Mm-hmm compared to someone in the 99th percentile you are absolute suck 01:32:01.100 --> 01:32:05.780 Yeah, but someone who's in the like 99.7 01:32:07.620 --> 01:32:17.060 Versus someone who's 99.0 The 99.0 person probably kind of sucks compared to the point seven like the final little bit is 01:32:17.820 --> 01:32:22.180 Insane, yeah, like it's it's how much better Connor Mcdavid is 01:32:22.300 --> 01:32:26.660 Yeah, and even someone who is better than you know, it's a one in 01:32:27.620 --> 01:32:33.620 100,000 hockey player. Yep, like it's not close. Yeah, like to the point where he could toy with them 01:32:33.620 --> 01:32:40.700 Yeah, like it's it's why it does on a regular basis. Yeah, that's hockey player in the world. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's yeah 01:32:40.860 --> 01:32:43.820 Anyways, it's scrappy Dp says Ovechkin. So 01:32:45.140 --> 01:32:49.260 Hear me out Super Mario 01:32:51.220 --> 01:33:01.220 More more goals per game Fighting back injury literally recovering from cancer way more goals per playoff game. He played in the deadpuck era 01:33:03.380 --> 01:33:09.580 Super Mario Way more dynamic player way more assist second only to Gretzky 01:33:10.220 --> 01:33:14.640 Actually, my favorite my favorite hockey player not even close pretty based not even close 01:33:17.260 --> 01:33:21.700 But yeah, I don't know my line that I'll say again is you are constantly at war 01:33:21.700 --> 01:33:28.340 You're at war with many many many billion dollar companies that are fighting for your brain and they want you to suck 01:33:28.340 --> 01:33:32.380 Yeah, it's your job to not suck Went from not playing for four years 01:33:33.020 --> 01:33:39.900 Literally sipping coolers needing potato chips to acquiring the franchise that he played for put on his skates 01:33:40.340 --> 01:33:45.420 Put up numbers. I Didn't know he owned the team while he played for it Super Mario 01:33:46.660 --> 01:33:54.460 Literally came out of retirement To like help the team that he had acquired that's dope. The guy is actually an absolute Chad 01:33:55.980 --> 01:34:03.220 Also, I can never find the bloody clip of it Is that that he got a back injury moving his couch right and then he went to the game like right after is that I don't remember 01:34:03.220 --> 01:34:07.940 I don't know that about him. That might be true but the 01:34:08.540 --> 01:34:10.540 There's a there's that there's this like 01:34:12.100 --> 01:34:20.300 4,000 IQ clip of him Where he doesn't actually score or get an assist and I've never been able to find it again 01:34:20.300 --> 01:34:24.300 But it just about made my jaw hit my keyboard when I saw it 01:34:24.300 --> 01:34:30.180 It's unfortunately not an NHL clip So I've had a really hard time tracking out tracking down where it was from 01:34:30.420 --> 01:34:36.020 But basically he's he's he's rushing to the crease and his right winger 01:34:36.780 --> 01:34:39.980 passes and Lemieux 01:34:39.980 --> 01:34:47.780 Picks up his stick looks at nothing looks at nobody picks up his stick so that the puck will go through him and 01:34:48.140 --> 01:34:51.700 His left winger bangs it into a completely empty cage 01:34:52.340 --> 01:35:03.260 because he just had 4,000 IQ knew where absolutely everybody was on the ice and made that happen without even touching the puck. It's 01:35:03.900 --> 01:35:09.780 Crazy, that's so sick. Also, you're wrong the rest of the world play cares plenty about hockey 01:35:09.780 --> 01:35:17.860 They just don't know it yet and to do And to do that while knowing that you will get no credit. Oh, yeah is so sick dude 01:35:18.380 --> 01:35:28.660 So cool. That's dope. So cool Yeah, if anyone if anyone can remember and like find the clip on talking about I would I would be so I would be so pleased 01:35:28.660 --> 01:35:34.820 So when a chat I already lost it but somebody chat said we need I found it Hathos said we need a good hockey anime 01:35:34.820 --> 01:35:37.300 I totally agree the closest thing we have to it is 01:35:38.300 --> 01:35:40.300 Shorzy, there's a parent. Oh 01:35:41.980 --> 01:35:44.540 Shorzy is an anime. I need this 01:35:45.140 --> 01:35:49.380 There's a pretty good bad thing to an anime apparently, but I haven't watched it yet. I've been meaning to 01:35:50.180 --> 01:35:54.900 Never really gotten into anime, but apparently it's apparently it's pretty solid back when I was my chat 01:35:54.900 --> 01:36:00.420 Craft right when I asked them to find a clip for me Luke. They didn't dang it. Oh, they didn't find it 01:36:00.420 --> 01:36:04.380 They just someone just linked one. Oh, then mine's frozen and it's real 01:36:05.380 --> 01:36:11.060 These people are awful bamboozled. Well, you know, you love them. Yeah. Oh 01:36:13.500 --> 01:36:18.620 Was it the 2002 Olympics, this is between the legs assist which doesn't sound like what you described 01:36:18.620 --> 01:36:22.500 Oh, no, hold on. Maybe yeah, maybe I had it wrong. Hold on. Can I can I watch that? 01:36:23.700 --> 01:36:26.500 Okay, hold on this might be this might be the one maybe here 01:36:27.420 --> 01:36:34.580 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, definitely not that right that makes sense. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Let me see it 01:36:34.580 --> 01:36:40.980 Let me see it This might not be it because it was like crappy or grainy or footage 01:36:44.540 --> 01:36:48.780 Hold on where's the slow version of this and this game is too fast 01:36:50.300 --> 01:36:56.020 Okay, blah blah blah crowd reacts. Okay, here's the here's the slow version. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on 01:36:56.700 --> 01:37:04.580 No, that's not it. Yeah, it didn't it's good. That's not it. No, it's a this this is great. Oh 01:37:08.020 --> 01:37:12.900 Okay, okay, you know what we're gonna take a risk we're gonna take a risk you can't see it unless you're at that angle 01:37:12.900 --> 01:37:17.580 You're gonna take a risk. This is this is the this is it. This is the 4,000 01:37:18.580 --> 01:37:21.900 Angle to see this that's crazy. This is insane 01:37:22.500 --> 01:37:27.220 Okay, so here we go. Here we go. It's a little bit as possible. Okay. Yeah, we're gonna play 01:37:28.020 --> 01:37:32.660 Puck is pointed out. That's not just a random dot. Here's the puck. Yeah. Okay. Hold on 01:37:33.060 --> 01:37:36.740 Okay, so yeah, here we go. Here we go. This is the right winger with the puck 01:37:38.020 --> 01:37:45.380 Why does space not play on this website because you have the that's selected. All right. All right. All right. All right 01:37:45.380 --> 01:37:47.380 Okay, okay, check this out 01:37:48.580 --> 01:37:50.580 4,000 IQ 01:37:51.580 --> 01:38:00.740 What it looks it looks so basic, but it's so sick. Are you kidding me right now? That's so sick. Are you kidding me? 01:38:01.380 --> 01:38:05.620 That's fantastic that 01:38:07.180 --> 01:38:11.060 No one no one before you described it is like 01:38:11.820 --> 01:38:17.220 You're not even wrong, but you're like it's not an NHL game like what you're like downplaying the game is the Olympics 01:38:18.180 --> 01:38:20.180 NHL games so it was hard for me to find it 01:38:21.740 --> 01:38:27.420 What tournament it was from I thought you're trying to say like it was just like a for fun like random who cares 01:38:29.380 --> 01:38:36.860 You didn't I thought so yeah, no this dude that like oh man that what dude that was oh that was 01:38:37.860 --> 01:38:44.980 That's insane. It's beautiful. Just like this like give him the assist. I'm not sure. I'm not sure he definitely 01:38:45.660 --> 01:38:54.340 Assisted he deserves it. Yeah Lethal bacon says man. It was an okay shot. He didn't take the shot. That's the point. Yeah, he like he like 01:38:55.300 --> 01:38:58.380 Pretended doesn't even look up. Just 01:38:59.220 --> 01:39:04.460 Just pretends that he's doing it so completely open cage. Love it. Absolutely love it 01:39:05.100 --> 01:39:09.140 And to be clear, there's a lot of modern players that are making moves that just 01:39:10.020 --> 01:39:12.660 blow the mind I watched a clip the other day where 01:39:13.660 --> 01:39:20.060 The guy what was going on he had a defender on him and he puts his stick out and 01:39:20.580 --> 01:39:27.820 Blade goes flat against the ice. He makes a ramp and the puck comes up and ramps off his stick and goes over the defender stick and goes to his teammate 01:39:28.340 --> 01:39:33.700 He didn't like it looks insane to watch. It's full speed. Everything just 01:39:34.340 --> 01:39:37.100 Players are so good these days. Huh? 01:39:38.180 --> 01:39:44.460 Super Mario was on a different level Literally like yeah, nice. Easy. He's 01:39:44.900 --> 01:39:54.380 Unbelievable is a thing of beauty based Okay, what what else we know now? We're gonna do a third merge message a third merge message or we can just do two 01:39:54.500 --> 01:39:57.000 No, I'm gonna do three because we're minutes over time now 01:39:58.180 --> 01:40:05.220 And it says it on the dock that I didn't write hello Dynast duke and land AWS technician here just coming up on one year 01:40:05.220 --> 01:40:09.300 What is the jankiest most inefficient process you've ever seen a? 01:40:10.980 --> 01:40:14.860 Tech industry giant have that is different from others. I think that's a process 01:40:16.180 --> 01:40:24.860 Spelled wrong. Oh Count is a tech industry. No, I don't think so not a giant not in the tech industry. Oh, well, we're a media company 01:40:25.180 --> 01:40:30.380 I'm hiding behind that shield today You asked me a different day. I'm like, yeah, I've got company Floatplane 01:40:31.660 --> 01:40:33.940 Whatever once that narcissist do it 01:40:35.940 --> 01:40:40.420 I'm giving this to Linus. Oh Man, he's right 01:40:40.460 --> 01:40:46.620 Yeah, no, we do He owns tech companies. That's my old anyways, whatever 01:40:52.620 --> 01:40:54.620 These funds are paying dividend 01:40:57.420 --> 01:41:00.660 Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna count this one 01:41:00.660 --> 01:41:03.980 I'm gonna count this one and I'm gonna name them because I'm pretty sure 01:41:04.260 --> 01:41:11.260 Everyone who worked there when I worked on this is gone. So this says absolutely nothing about the company in its current form 01:41:11.260 --> 01:41:15.620 This was like sure ten years ago. Yeah, I don't even that CEO isn't there anymore. Okay 01:41:16.940 --> 01:41:19.860 When I did a sponsored project for Ford 01:41:20.860 --> 01:41:22.860 At the New York International Auto Show 01:41:24.140 --> 01:41:28.620 This was this was a cluster bomb. I don't think it's gonna be controversial contacted us 01:41:29.340 --> 01:41:36.140 During CES. Okay, and I don't know if you guys know this but the New York International Auto Show at least back then was right after CES 01:41:36.140 --> 01:41:40.860 They were like, okay, we want to bring you guys out for our sponsored social posts 01:41:41.700 --> 01:41:49.220 and There's this round table discussion and we're and we're gonna be we're gonna be the first to 01:41:49.740 --> 01:41:57.140 broadcast in 360 on Facebook which would have been a thing back then which would have been a thing back then and 01:41:58.620 --> 01:42:03.460 We need you to do these Instagram posts and you know, whatever and I really didn't want to do it 01:42:03.460 --> 01:42:09.380 I I really didn't want to because I was coming back from CES and CES is always a grind and 01:42:10.020 --> 01:42:15.860 Particularly back then it was a grind and a half the way that we would tackle that show with very few people 01:42:15.860 --> 01:42:20.700 It was it was I don't know how we did it So anyway, I literally couldn't anymore 01:42:21.300 --> 01:42:27.340 The offer though and we needed the money. We really needed the money at the time and the offer was really good 01:42:28.820 --> 01:42:34.880 so I agreed to fly back from Vegas to Vancouver on my original flight and then 01:42:35.700 --> 01:42:39.860 Literally, I have a meal in the airport with my family and fly to New York 01:42:40.100 --> 01:42:47.260 Which I was not stoked to do But you know, it was one of those things where the way that I would always do the math and even now 01:42:47.260 --> 01:42:54.540 I actually I find myself falling into this math again Even though we have like proper reports and stuff the way that I would do the math is I would take our average salaries 01:42:54.540 --> 01:43:00.420 And I would go okay, how many how many like employee hours would this pay, right? 01:43:00.420 --> 01:43:06.860 Like that was just the way I would do the math It's not an unreasonable way to think about whether I would take a project, right? This runs the company for like three weeks 01:43:06.860 --> 01:43:11.420 I have to take it. Yeah, I look it in. Yeah. Anyways, I'm not going to be clear 01:43:11.420 --> 01:43:15.260 I wouldn't take it if there was anything an ethical problem with it or whatever else 01:43:15.260 --> 01:43:19.180 But it was just it was like a couple sponsored Instagram posts for Ford who cares, right? 01:43:19.180 --> 01:43:22.820 Like it didn't yeah, they weren't asking me to say anything that was untrue 01:43:22.820 --> 01:43:26.380 It was so so it wasn't a question of that. It was just a question of okay 01:43:26.380 --> 01:43:30.340 This is a perfectly okay project to take. Is it worth it? Yes 01:43:31.540 --> 01:43:38.780 so I got there and They're giving us kind of they kind of set us loose in the showroom. It was a bunch of us and 01:43:39.740 --> 01:43:47.940 They kind of go, okay Here's this like we had this special app that we had to use to create draft posts that their agency could then 01:43:48.380 --> 01:43:51.580 Approve and then they would go up or something 01:43:51.580 --> 01:43:57.980 So so anyway, we're like going around they have the show We're on the show floor and they have their showroom with all of their all of their vehicles 01:43:57.980 --> 01:44:02.220 And they had a few key things that they wanted us to look at you know things like backup cameras and stuff 01:44:02.220 --> 01:44:05.700 That would have been features back then and the reason that I'm counting this as a tech 01:44:06.020 --> 01:44:10.860 Company is because Ford was in the midst of trying to rebrand themselves as a tech company 01:44:12.340 --> 01:44:16.820 But I think they've kind of done I mean f-150 lightning is a pretty techy car at this point, right? 01:44:17.420 --> 01:44:21.180 So so that's why I'm calling for a tech company because they were calling themselves a tech company 01:44:21.180 --> 01:44:25.340 And that was a big part of the push and it was a big part of the reason that I was there rather than traditional automotive 01:44:26.220 --> 01:44:28.860 Influencers or whatever else right so anyway 01:44:29.500 --> 01:44:34.620 I'm on the show floor, and I'm like, okay, so I'm done my Instagram posts. This doesn't seem like work 01:44:35.340 --> 01:44:38.580 No offense to like Instagram influencers or whatever like that 01:44:38.580 --> 01:44:41.980 That's some of them put like a ton of work into the staging and framing and whatever 01:44:41.980 --> 01:44:48.500 But realistically Ford didn't care and I didn't care We had like almost no followers on Instagram, so I go to the I go to the rap and I'm just like 01:44:50.300 --> 01:44:54.100 I'm done like do you want to do YouTube video or something? 01:44:54.700 --> 01:44:57.000 And they're basically like no 01:44:57.780 --> 01:45:00.860 The KPI is Instagram posts. I'm like cuz like 01:45:01.380 --> 01:45:05.540 I'll do it like this is pretty cool. Like I actually I like the products 01:45:05.540 --> 01:45:09.660 I think they're cool like do like should I should I do that now? They're like no 01:45:10.660 --> 01:45:16.420 And I'm like, but I don't even I don't even have a lot of I don't even have a lot of followers on Instagram like I 01:45:16.420 --> 01:45:21.260 Like I'm way bigger on YouTube. Do you want me to? But that's how rigid 01:45:22.180 --> 01:45:29.340 icky the processes can be And it's I don't know about icky, but it's incompetent. I just I don't I 01:45:33.060 --> 01:45:42.260 Detest that like type of work Sure hate it where you're not giving any thought yeah, but realistically they're not in a position where they can give thought 01:45:42.260 --> 01:45:48.380 But then I would I would not function. Oh, I see what you're saying is a personal thing. Yeah, I get it 01:45:48.380 --> 01:45:55.500 No, I get it Not even necessarily blaming them like it just I don't know what I think happened with someone bailed 01:45:55.500 --> 01:45:59.660 And I think that it was someone with more Instagram following and at the end of the day 01:45:59.740 --> 01:46:05.620 They just have their KPI and their KPI is they need a certain amount of like Instagram likes and they have a certain budget 01:46:05.620 --> 01:46:09.300 So they go out and they get a stable of influencers that get them over their limit 01:46:09.300 --> 01:46:18.380 They need to have a certain number of people there for the round table discussion They just have the parameters and they're working with their parameters and a YouTube video doesn't help them at all 01:46:18.380 --> 01:46:22.500 Not their parameters so they don't care but the reason why that 01:46:22.500 --> 01:46:27.580 Feels icky is because you don't feel like you're on part of a team because it's not part of the parameters 01:46:27.580 --> 01:46:33.260 It doesn't help them at all. It doesn't help their team at all even though that would help the organization 01:46:33.260 --> 01:46:38.100 It would help your your people as a whole but at that scale 01:46:38.100 --> 01:46:41.620 I think this just happens it just happens where that's irrelevant now 01:46:41.620 --> 01:46:46.260 Yeah, and I just I just don't like that KPI stands for key performance indicator 01:46:46.260 --> 01:46:51.540 So basically the the the proof of performance that you like did your job 01:46:52.180 --> 01:46:56.660 So like if you're a sales representative your main KPI is going to be selling lots of stuff 01:46:56.700 --> 01:47:01.260 Like think about think about your customer care your KPI would be customer satisfaction surveys 01:47:01.700 --> 01:47:05.580 Think about when we started putting flow plane exclusives on 01:47:05.740 --> 01:47:07.740 To YouTube for YouTube members 01:47:09.620 --> 01:47:13.740 People came to me with that like tiptoeing super hard 01:47:14.380 --> 01:47:20.380 Because they expected me to be pissed and my response was like this seems like the right move for the company overhaul 01:47:20.940 --> 01:47:27.020 Good job But that isn't it's not it shouldn't be protectionism 01:47:27.660 --> 01:47:31.220 Yeah, I mean the experience is still better on flow plane. You still get more stuff on flow plane 01:47:31.620 --> 01:47:38.060 We're talking to flow plane chat right now. It's a it's it's better. Yeah, but it's not some people will never 01:47:38.380 --> 01:47:43.140 Do any engagement with us whatsoever off of YouTube? That is a fact 01:47:43.140 --> 01:47:47.260 Yeah, their payment information is already there and it's more convenient for them to just click a button 01:47:47.260 --> 01:47:54.780 It's a it's a worse experience. They don't get as much But they get something and if that something is worth it to them for those dollars, we will take those dollars 01:47:54.780 --> 01:47:58.540 Sure sounds good and we will give them something in return, but that perspective is a big part of why 01:47:59.660 --> 01:48:03.460 You were probably always destined for some kind of management 01:48:03.980 --> 01:48:07.780 and some people don't see that 01:48:07.780 --> 01:48:10.300 perspective and sometimes it's not even their own fault because 01:48:11.140 --> 01:48:16.180 They can I think I think people can end up really disenfranchised when their leadership 01:48:16.700 --> 01:48:26.180 Doesn't see the bigger picture like you describe Like I think that you could start with an idealistic view that anything you do that helps the company should ultimately be you know 01:48:26.980 --> 01:48:35.340 received positively and rewarded But if you get like if you get it beaten out of you enough times like let's say let's say I was that sales wrap 01:48:35.340 --> 01:48:40.020 I think this happens a lot Let's say I was that sales rep and I'm only incentivized by like selling things 01:48:40.060 --> 01:48:43.580 But I would spend probably a solid half an hour of my day every day 01:48:44.180 --> 01:48:46.580 Making sure that I tied it up the front desk 01:48:47.700 --> 01:48:51.300 Because because no one else was doing it and I'm still like mostly hitting my quota 01:48:51.300 --> 01:48:55.940 But then I have someone yelling at me because I'm such a good sales person and I'm not just talking to customers 01:48:56.500 --> 01:49:02.020 Then I might stop doing it Right, and I think that I think that I think sometimes that might be okay 01:49:02.020 --> 01:49:06.380 But it's often not like think think about if that sales rep did do the YouTube video with you 01:49:06.380 --> 01:49:08.780 It gets a million views, but your 01:49:09.780 --> 01:49:14.020 50,000 like Instagram post didn't go up. I have no idea how many likes we get on Instagram very few 01:49:14.020 --> 01:49:17.660 We had a pretty small following on Instagram 5,000 like it's not even sure yeah 01:49:17.980 --> 01:49:20.980 2000 thanks one thousand. I have no idea anymore 01:49:21.620 --> 01:49:32.620 45 like Instagram posts Doesn't go up for some reason and he misses his quota by your post amount. Yeah, but your YouTube video got a million views 01:49:33.420 --> 01:49:40.500 to me Huge win. I know whatever I know, but I maybe he loses out on 01:49:41.020 --> 01:49:46.180 Some in personal income or whatever else for that reason like that can really bash people down 01:49:47.740 --> 01:49:54.140 You have a miniscule ego compared to most the executives and project managers I've seen and he tagged me I don't 01:49:55.140 --> 01:49:59.540 Definitely hasn't I 01:50:01.100 --> 01:50:06.460 You actually nailed it by the way, I think your first guess was 5,000 likes. No, I think I said 50 01:50:06.460 --> 01:50:11.860 Oh, did you I corrected down to 5,000. Okay. Well, this was the 360 degree camera set up. Yeah 01:50:11.860 --> 01:50:16.620 I think yeah, yeah, this one this one was part of the sponsored thing 01:50:17.660 --> 01:50:29.380 Look at all these like ads and hash tags Fun fact by the way the roundtable discussion did go ahead according to plan, but they never published it. I 01:50:30.100 --> 01:50:34.340 think yeah, I I would imagine it didn't make it past legal or something and 01:50:35.100 --> 01:50:39.620 The scuttlebutt that I heard was that what's the what's the American? 01:50:39.620 --> 01:50:43.580 I know Ryan Seacrest actually co-hosted the panel and 01:50:44.140 --> 01:50:49.140 The scuttlebutt that I heard was that that was a 100s of thousands of dollars bill 01:50:49.620 --> 01:50:51.940 For a piece of content that was never published 01:50:53.460 --> 01:50:56.860 Not to mention so hundred hundreds of thousands of dollars for Ryan Seacrest alone 01:50:57.140 --> 01:51:02.140 Who my understanding who was only there for part like the first half along with Ford CEO at the time? 01:51:02.140 --> 01:51:05.820 And then they're like VP of technology or whatever it stepped in for both of them 01:51:05.820 --> 01:51:14.220 And it continued in the second half and I overheard someone saying that Seacrest was literally already in the shuttle back to his private plane 01:51:14.700 --> 01:51:19.620 By the time we were done wrapping The second part 01:51:20.460 --> 01:51:26.180 And so and that and that was on top of all the cost of having literally the entire rest of the table of influencers sitting there 01:51:26.500 --> 01:51:32.460 So I think basically I'm not even trying to pick on Ford and I'm certainly not trying to pick on any individual person 01:51:32.460 --> 01:51:37.060 Like I said none of the people that I interacted with there's any way that they're still at Ford at this point 01:51:37.060 --> 01:51:43.300 This is 483 weeks ago. This was in 2016 so nine years ago 01:51:44.340 --> 01:51:50.780 nine plus years ago but I think that what I was the point I was trying to make is that 01:51:51.740 --> 01:51:56.060 processes can get extremely KPI focused and 01:51:57.140 --> 01:52:01.500 Very focused on the trees when the forest is much more important 01:52:01.500 --> 01:52:07.500 And I think that that's something that can happen at just about any large company. Yeah, and the reason I'm telling this story is 01:52:09.700 --> 01:52:14.700 Mostly to illustrate that this kind of thing happens all the time super common 01:52:14.700 --> 01:52:21.340 And that is a big part of my perspective in general where you'll see other tech media 01:52:21.900 --> 01:52:26.900 Go malice malice malice scamming taking advantage of the customer 01:52:28.980 --> 01:52:33.460 When from what I've experienced the probably like perverse incentives 01:52:34.660 --> 01:52:42.860 Likely explanation is incompetence because there is no way that them refusing a free YouTube video from a youtuber 01:52:44.740 --> 01:52:51.380 Instead of some crappy Instagram posts from a not Instagrammer had anything to do with anything other than incompetence 01:52:51.980 --> 01:52:56.100 And that's just that's just the truth. That's just the way it is 01:52:58.380 --> 01:53:02.180 To address the the ego comics I've been trying to think here. I'm like really surprised 01:53:02.180 --> 01:53:07.540 Wow, you're really you're really uh, but I think I what kind of ego would you have to have to read that 01:53:08.460 --> 01:53:13.640 Say it out loud and still be thinking about it when I'm saying things that are so much more interesting 01:53:14.700 --> 01:53:16.700 I 01:53:18.100 --> 01:53:24.820 Tend to I tend to align really well with with team effort. Yes, I tend to live really well with team effort 01:53:24.820 --> 01:53:31.300 I also think I'm I'm rarely like the best at something when we start. I'm rarely the smartest person in the room 01:53:31.300 --> 01:53:36.020 But I will out try hard like anyone 01:53:36.380 --> 01:53:46.260 That has always been my thing forever I will sweat so hard and I will eventually win my mom had a term for the kids in her class that were 01:53:50.260 --> 01:53:56.060 Not that not the brightest intellects, but we're really good at school she called them a getters 01:53:56.740 --> 01:54:02.500 Because they got a's But they brute-forced it. You are not an a getter 01:54:02.540 --> 01:54:09.220 No, you are actually someone who effortlessly got a's in school. Yeah, but you're you're one of those people who is 01:54:10.140 --> 01:54:13.980 Very very smart, but like I was talking about earlier 01:54:14.500 --> 01:54:19.780 Smart enough to know that you're not the smartest guy in the room. Yeah, like that's the thing, right? 01:54:20.540 --> 01:54:26.700 and Like Luke was talking about with the like the percentile differences Luke could be 99th percentile 01:54:26.820 --> 01:54:30.580 He could be smarter than literally 90 99 out of a hundred people 01:54:30.580 --> 01:54:36.580 But then I hang out with but the insert name the 99.5 percent and the 99.9 percent 01:54:38.260 --> 01:54:42.140 Basically are to him what he is to someone who gets 01:54:44.780 --> 01:54:47.180 Passed over for every promotion, you know 01:54:47.820 --> 01:54:55.700 And that's just the truth That's just the truth Of course, there's more to life than just being smart like a big part of success is learning to work with people 01:54:56.340 --> 01:55:00.980 Communication skills the amount of wasted potential being personable who are smart 01:55:00.980 --> 01:55:07.460 But have no grit or will put no effort into anything is insane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know 01:55:09.860 --> 01:55:12.980 Scrappy DP says Luke not 99.9 percent we know 01:55:13.900 --> 01:55:19.100 We know oh and actually the had matter says you can't be over 99 percentile 01:55:19.100 --> 01:55:26.900 That is actually I don't think that is quite true I think depending on what we're measuring you can be over 99th percentile, but in terms of intellect 01:55:26.900 --> 01:55:33.460 I don't think they rated over 99. I've no idea if we're talking about a theoretical like a hypothetical if there was the point 01:55:33.460 --> 01:55:42.580 Is just that as you approach that asymptote It goes out really really really far within that 1% that we don't even really have a way of accurately quantifying 01:55:42.580 --> 01:55:45.300 Yeah, and that even assumes that the IQ scale is 01:55:45.940 --> 01:55:51.700 Accurate which we know for a fact that it isn't it's just kind of from my understanding the closest 01:55:51.700 --> 01:55:55.620 Measure that we have of objective analysis intellectual 01:55:56.420 --> 01:56:04.740 prowess the ability to like apply your IQ potential to something is like super important a lot of people just like can't do it due to 01:56:05.620 --> 01:56:12.580 um I don't know ability to work as a team social skills in general different things like that can people can often struggle 01:56:13.220 --> 01:56:18.260 um As humans or social creatures and you kind of have to accomplish things together generally 01:56:19.220 --> 01:56:21.460 So I think people get held back from that sometimes 01:56:23.620 --> 01:56:28.900 Um, okay. Oh, actually this is this is really funny. This is not really a great analogy 01:56:28.980 --> 01:56:35.940 But it tickled me anyway Willing spy and Floatplane chat says it's kind of like how going from level 98 to 99 in diablo 2 01:56:36.260 --> 01:56:39.140 Is the same amount of xp as level 1 to level 92 01:56:39.540 --> 01:56:42.420 It kind of though like there's a runescape version of that too 01:56:43.140 --> 01:56:46.260 98 is half of 99 or something like that. I don't quote me 01:56:46.260 --> 01:56:50.180 I haven't played 2007 scape in a long time. It's actually wild though. Like it 01:56:51.140 --> 01:56:59.780 I don't know 92 is half of 99. Maybe if you had more IQ 92. That's true. It's true. I had to look it up 01:57:01.140 --> 01:57:06.340 All right, no skill waste. What are we doing? Uh, now you're gonna read the Floatplane announcement. Oh, okay 01:57:07.380 --> 01:57:11.060 Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Right away, sir um 01:57:11.060 --> 01:57:17.300 I've always said Who the f*** is daniel beser? But i've never asked what the f*** does daniel beser do? 01:57:18.420 --> 01:57:21.780 The answer to answer one of the two questions 01:57:22.100 --> 01:57:28.420 We caught up with Dan in a new series Dan's dailies where he shares some of his day-to-day activities 01:57:29.540 --> 01:57:34.180 um The current like dislike ratio on this is infinity 01:57:34.900 --> 01:57:42.260 um People I think it's already on hiatus Dan's dailies is already on hiatus. Oh, yeah 01:57:42.580 --> 01:57:48.580 It like I had to get canceled halfway through. Oh, uh, because I stopped doing different things. Yeah 01:57:48.900 --> 01:57:56.820 And it got really really really boring. Okay, cool. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, anyway people really love this video 01:57:57.300 --> 01:58:05.140 So you can go watch this video Also, where did we get this Floatplane mic flag because I love it. It's a 3d printed actually. I love it so much 01:58:05.780 --> 01:58:11.460 Do you remember how much we paid for a stupid mic flag back our first trade show? No, but I remember it was like 01:58:12.020 --> 01:58:16.420 Enough that we talked about it a lot unreasonably expensive 01:58:16.420 --> 01:58:22.420 And then because it cost it cost so much to like get it personalized 01:58:22.900 --> 01:58:28.100 I just like used a I used my printer at home and then I used packing tape 01:58:28.820 --> 01:58:34.980 Around it to like try to make a branded flag. In fact. Oh man. Now. I have to go find this. I'm sure there's oh 01:58:35.060 --> 01:58:38.180 Dude, I'm gonna find footage of it. Uh youtube hold on 01:58:38.500 --> 01:58:43.940 Oh, it sounds like the creator roho's team made it for sammy. Maybe tyenin said we made it for sammy. That's super cool 01:58:44.500 --> 01:58:50.980 Uh, let's see. Was it ces. I don't think it was ces. I don't think I had a mic. Well, it's not suit even 01:58:51.380 --> 01:58:54.820 But we're dressed up. I'm sure you can tell how many videos I shot in a single day 01:58:55.220 --> 01:58:59.540 Because I'm wearing the same shirt in this one this one this one and this one 01:59:00.340 --> 01:59:05.460 Absolutely wild. They're likely more. There you go. Yeah, man. Those days were those days were wild 01:59:06.020 --> 01:59:11.140 Uh, okay. Was it computex? I think it might have been computex because we did the the sponsorship with wd 01:59:12.180 --> 01:59:15.780 Look at this guy. Oh, yeah. Look at this guy. Absolutely chad 01:59:16.340 --> 01:59:20.340 um No, I didn't have a mic flag yet 01:59:20.900 --> 01:59:25.060 Oh, man, remember when ed did this cool because we were like traveling. We took a plane there 01:59:25.620 --> 01:59:31.460 We took a plane there. You're just so cool Uh, okay, I'm gonna keep trying to find this in the meantime. You want to find another topic for us? 01:59:31.620 --> 01:59:35.460 Sure, wait, did I finish reading the thing? No, I didn't finish reading the thing. Do you want to finish it off while you look? 01:59:35.460 --> 01:59:39.780 Sure, thanks. Uh, so yeah, like ratio really good. There's also a weird invitation, but okay 01:59:44.740 --> 01:59:48.820 There's also a small discussion on air table a whole new system Dan is building uh 01:59:49.620 --> 01:59:54.500 Yeah, uh, is building with the help of nicole at air table isn't the system that he's building 01:59:54.500 --> 02:00:00.580 He's building a system on top of air table air table is a software product. But anyways, I've built something on top of an air table 02:00:02.420 --> 02:00:04.420 I'm such a 02:00:10.820 --> 02:00:18.100 Also season two of why is when late is now out and Linus is somehow winning question mark question mark. Is he cheating? 02:00:19.060 --> 02:00:24.500 Never. Yes. Is Luke just slacking off? No and breaking the law. Yes 02:00:25.300 --> 02:00:28.980 What's more of a cheat bending the rules or literally breaking the law? 02:00:29.940 --> 02:00:34.420 It wasn't breaking the law of the competition though. It was just breaking the law 02:00:35.620 --> 02:00:38.900 Of the country, which is less important objectively 02:00:40.740 --> 02:00:42.740 Federal crimes are less important 02:00:44.100 --> 02:00:50.340 Basically don't matter. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Uh, if you how do you tell that you're a c executive? Yeah 02:00:50.340 --> 02:00:52.340 See sweet 02:01:00.420 --> 02:01:05.540 Some of you may die, but at least I was not late that is a risk I'm willing to take 02:01:11.460 --> 02:01:17.060 If you love the processes or want to see if Linus is a snakey cheat and stinking cheating cheater 02:01:17.140 --> 02:01:20.660 That's there's no way that's in the dog. That says there's word for word 02:01:21.460 --> 02:01:29.780 sneaky cheaty stinking cheating cheater Wow, I feel personally attacked right now. Check out because I'm being personally attacked right now 02:01:30.340 --> 02:01:36.020 That's true. Uh, just like an executive check out LMG.gg slash Floatplane or 02:01:37.060 --> 02:01:42.100 Yes Or youtube members plus for the lazy 02:01:43.060 --> 02:01:47.460 You Can't call our supporters 02:01:48.500 --> 02:01:51.460 I have to I have to you can't call our supporters lazy 02:01:53.380 --> 02:01:56.180 It's it's in the dock. I gotta do it. Okay. Well, I found it 02:01:56.660 --> 02:02:02.020 Uh, we gave you one of those zoom mics because oh dude, I'm actually so dapper 02:02:02.740 --> 02:02:04.740 And then this is this is me 02:02:06.580 --> 02:02:08.580 So 02:02:13.060 --> 02:02:24.420 There you go So this oh my god, it's taped on this is packing tape. We've come a long way. We really just really really really glossy paint. We really have 02:02:25.060 --> 02:02:28.340 Um So if we look closely there you go 02:02:28.900 --> 02:02:31.860 You can really see so it wasn't quite the same width 02:02:32.660 --> 02:02:38.100 So I had to Do a piece and then if I wrapped it around it kind of looked stupid 02:02:38.820 --> 02:02:43.620 And remember okay, so hold on hold on if I wrapped it all the way around it would slip off 02:02:44.500 --> 02:02:48.100 Right, right. So what I had to do was I had to 02:02:49.460 --> 02:02:53.780 I I lined it up on two sides And then I would tape all the way around 02:02:53.860 --> 02:02:57.700 And then I put the other two on and then taped all the way around 02:02:57.940 --> 02:03:03.700 And I had to do the top and then a little Sliver at the bottom because it wasn't quite quite the right width 02:03:04.180 --> 02:03:08.820 And if I didn't do that then it would like fray and look crappy at the bottom 02:03:09.220 --> 02:03:16.180 If I wasn't looking this closely at it. I don't think anybody ever noticed or called me on this. Yeah, but this is very 02:03:17.140 --> 02:03:22.900 Hand-done. Oh, I yeah, it blends in perfectly. Was this where we sponsored by ncx for that show. Yeah 02:03:24.820 --> 02:03:28.260 Yeah, because we were still working with them on a regular basis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 02:03:28.980 --> 02:03:34.740 Also, I just completely like lose the flag in this part of the shoot apparently that's good. Good job Linus 02:03:38.740 --> 02:03:44.580 That man he deserves every bit of ego that he has he's destined for great things for getting his forgetting his mic 02:03:47.300 --> 02:03:52.580 Tynan says I see nothing has changed. It's just scaled up if it works I sits 02:03:53.540 --> 02:04:00.340 For sure. Okay. Wow. What are we supposed to be talking about? Probably sponsors. No, we should do a topic 02:04:00.340 --> 02:04:05.620 We gotta do another topic. Okay. You got one topic and then you gotta eat your peas. Okay, Dan. You can pick the topic though 02:04:05.620 --> 02:04:08.820 Okay. Oh, no, this is too much pressure. I've never had to do this before 02:04:09.620 --> 02:04:14.260 I mean if we're talking about if we're talking about sponsors talking about weird frity and slip 02:04:14.820 --> 02:04:18.500 Do you know it's not it's normal Don't 02:04:18.500 --> 02:04:21.300 Don't go outside for a few hours 02:04:23.060 --> 02:04:27.380 All right, just for that trade war escalates Oh 02:04:28.660 --> 02:04:35.220 Okay, how about discord trials discord sounds fun. That's a very oh, yes great platform that I like very much 02:04:36.420 --> 02:04:41.620 Discord has his hot water this week as new jersey becomes the first state to sue the platform 02:04:41.940 --> 02:04:47.220 Alleging it failed to protect kids from harassment abuse and sexual exploitation 02:04:47.460 --> 02:04:51.060 The lawsuit claims discord marketed itself as a safe place for kids 02:04:51.780 --> 02:04:55.060 I don't think I've personally seen that I've ever seen that but okay 02:04:55.700 --> 02:04:59.140 Even though it knew its safety tools didn't work that I believe 02:04:59.940 --> 02:05:08.020 Me too It highlights how easy it is for predators to contact minors. Thanks to discord's default settings. That's true. Yep 02:05:08.820 --> 02:05:13.140 And lack of real age verification all the way in a birthday doesn't count 02:05:13.940 --> 02:05:20.900 Meanwhile discord is quietly testing a new age verification system in the uk and australia that asks users 02:05:21.300 --> 02:05:25.460 To scan their face or upload an id which sounds horrific 02:05:25.620 --> 02:05:30.820 So, yeah, can I interrupt for a second here and say like yes discord lacks real age verification 02:05:31.060 --> 02:05:39.140 Typing in a birthday doesn't count that totally makes sense. That's totally true But what what else are they supposed to do? I have no idea. I don't want them to do anything. I don't want them to do this other thing 02:05:39.140 --> 02:05:44.980 Sounds horrible. Sorry. I would I would like if they change the defaults. That's it. Maybe if they added a parental controls mode 02:05:45.060 --> 02:05:48.660 Does that exist wait? The system isn't all the time 02:05:49.620 --> 02:05:54.980 Yeah, it's only when you encounter flagged nsfw content or try to change your sensitive content filter 02:05:55.460 --> 02:05:58.580 That helps a little but not much. Yeah, okay carry on 02:05:59.220 --> 02:06:07.220 Users can verify by using their phone's camera for a face scan or scanning a qr code to submit a photo of government id 02:06:07.540 --> 02:06:14.900 Submit indeed discord yeah discord insists the data isn't stored face scans are processed on device and 02:06:15.620 --> 02:06:19.220 Id images are deleted after verification meaning they're stored for a small period of time 02:06:19.220 --> 02:06:26.820 But anyways, uh, if the system flags someone is underage they can retry request a manual review or risk a ban 02:06:29.220 --> 02:06:33.380 I wonder if it's a ban from viewing that type of content or a ban off the platform probably ban off the platform 02:06:33.860 --> 02:06:37.380 I had one of my kids discord account removed 02:06:38.420 --> 02:06:40.660 Because they figured out they were a miner somehow 02:06:41.540 --> 02:06:43.540 And then I made a new account for them 02:06:45.620 --> 02:06:49.620 Is there parental controls for discord not very good, but they like exist 02:06:49.780 --> 02:06:56.740 Well with my kids the parental controls are that I know your password and that I am I have full access to your computer 02:06:57.380 --> 02:06:59.380 as your parent 02:07:01.460 --> 02:07:03.460 Yeah 02:07:05.220 --> 02:07:09.540 Uh, uh, Genesis says uh, someone probably reported your kid. Yeah, that makes sense 02:07:10.500 --> 02:07:18.580 um funny Anyway, yeah, this move appears to be discord's way of staying ahead of tightening regulations like the uk's online safety act 02:07:18.660 --> 02:07:21.700 And australia's rules banning under 16s from social media 02:07:22.420 --> 02:07:29.540 Our discussion question though is can any platform realistically protect kids without unreasonably sacrificing privacy or usability? 02:07:29.860 --> 02:07:34.180 Thank you. Luke. This is a really long and nuanced conversation. It's really good that we're able to 02:07:34.820 --> 02:07:40.580 Like turn this into a to an actual topic we can discuss rather than just reading a thing. I think we need better 02:07:41.380 --> 02:07:46.980 strong parental controls Like everywhere and I I don't think these types like 02:07:47.620 --> 02:07:53.860 Uploading your id to freaking every platform that exists is not an acceptable solution of my I can tell you right now 02:07:53.940 --> 02:07:57.940 Parental controls are not going to be a solution either parental controls exist for lots of these 02:07:58.260 --> 02:08:03.540 Lots of platforms even if they do or don't for discord and parents don't use them parents don't use them parents don't even understand them 02:08:03.620 --> 02:08:10.340 Like I've talked to I've told this story before but like hanging out with normie parents of my kids friends 02:08:10.820 --> 02:08:16.340 Has been extremely eye-opening for me. Yeah, they literally don't even know what the fuck discord is 02:08:16.500 --> 02:08:20.660 Yeah, that's crazy until the school sends out a memo warning about kids 02:08:21.380 --> 02:08:24.340 Bullying each other on discord. They're like, well, what's a discord? 02:08:24.580 --> 02:08:30.100 They they literally don't even know and their kids are like over 10 wild and they're like all on discord 02:08:30.100 --> 02:08:34.900 Of course there that's wild I just I the biggest pushback for me is not actually the fact that like 02:08:35.300 --> 02:08:39.060 It's extremely obvious that one of these platforms is going to get hacked at some point in time 02:08:39.380 --> 02:08:42.820 And there's going to be some form of man in the middle thing and they'll be like, whoa, we don't store it 02:08:42.820 --> 02:08:46.740 But yeah, the malicious attacker does that's not even my main complaint 02:08:46.900 --> 02:08:52.500 My main complaint is the person that could be potentially trying to exploit your child 02:08:52.900 --> 02:08:56.580 Sure could try to use some form of fishing style attack 02:08:57.060 --> 02:09:07.140 To get them to give them photos Or potentially their id because if you normalize the idea of these platforms asking for photos and id you now 02:09:07.540 --> 02:09:13.780 Create a fishing scenario where you can ask for photos and id and we should just not do this to begin with 02:09:13.940 --> 02:09:19.300 In my I really don't think you're going to stop anything people will very likely find ways around this 02:09:19.700 --> 02:09:26.260 Part of the problem too is just how archaic our id systems are like the fact that your social security number or in Canada 02:09:26.340 --> 02:09:31.780 Your sin number is like a permanent number and like once people have it they like 02:09:32.580 --> 02:09:42.340 Have it and can do stuff with it That's insane. I mean even a credit card right has to expire every few years so that someone who so if it's compromised 02:09:42.420 --> 02:09:49.780 They don't just have it forever And it's way less important in the grand scheme of things than a sin number or an ssn 02:09:50.420 --> 02:09:56.420 Like it that's insane But here we are. Yeah, like I didn't even pay for aquifax forever 02:09:57.380 --> 02:10:01.700 That's a good system. Yeah, I told they get hacked. Um, I get it free because they got hacked 02:10:02.660 --> 02:10:04.660 Me too, it's not even a joke 02:10:09.140 --> 02:10:16.100 Fox and z i'm assuming new zealand says discord can't stop fishers abusing their qr code logins on the browser 02:10:16.180 --> 02:10:19.060 Why should we trust them for scanning faces and id securely? 02:10:19.380 --> 02:10:24.820 This is my point and it honestly has nothing to do with trusting discord. You can't trust any of them 02:10:25.860 --> 02:10:29.220 It's not it's not i'm not even i don't know i don't know actually 02:10:29.940 --> 02:10:34.180 I know I I take a I take extreme 02:10:34.740 --> 02:10:36.740 exception 02:10:37.780 --> 02:10:39.780 Mr. Mark Zuckerberg 02:10:42.340 --> 02:10:47.300 I was wondering where he's gonna go with it. Can't even trust 4chan face book face book 02:10:47.780 --> 02:10:52.340 Engaged in absolutely no anti competitive 02:10:54.180 --> 02:10:58.820 Sorry, I can't even I can't even that would be such a difficult like thing to try to 02:10:59.300 --> 02:11:01.300 Even do it with a straight face. Yeah, okay 02:11:02.420 --> 02:11:10.580 I trust luke don't That's my point is like I don't like we can trust him but verify. Yeah, that's allowed. Yeah, that's allowed 02:11:10.740 --> 02:11:18.020 My my and you can trust me bro as long as LTT Store continues to have an excellent track record of taking care of our customers 02:11:18.020 --> 02:11:20.660 But once once it doesn't anymore than you shouldn't yeah 02:11:21.460 --> 02:11:24.820 Like we uh, yeah, someone said even the LMG forum got hacked. That's my point 02:11:25.140 --> 02:11:30.500 Yep, to be honest and like it's been a while and that's great. I'm happy about that, but it might happen again someday 02:11:30.740 --> 02:11:33.460 Yeah, I mean we don't write the software the forum runs on no 02:11:34.660 --> 02:11:37.620 You know so like we do our best, but uh 02:11:38.660 --> 02:11:47.060 It is what it is every platform is vulnerable every single thing ever every lock every physical lock every software lock every door 02:11:47.140 --> 02:11:54.020 Every wall every single thing ever is vulnerable to something this is wild nothing is ever dead antisocial in Floatplane chat 02:11:54.500 --> 02:11:57.460 My wife got a letter in the mail trying to sell her stuff 02:11:58.180 --> 02:12:01.780 It was addressed to her fake name that she only uses on facebook 02:12:05.300 --> 02:12:09.700 Wild yeah, love it great. What a good world. 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I have an iron bladder 02:15:35.380 --> 02:15:39.540 I think it's from I I refer to it as gamer bladder 02:15:41.220 --> 02:15:47.220 Gamer bladder. Yeah, I've started adopting gamer bladder as well. Yeah, sorry. I just muted there. Um, but yeah, it's like 02:15:48.020 --> 02:15:52.020 I don't know. Yeah something about today 02:15:52.020 --> 02:15:57.220 Yeah, speaking about about today. Should we do a merge message break or should I find another article? 02:15:57.860 --> 02:16:04.500 Um topic. Why'd I say article? I mean there are articles sort of I guess maybe I guess 02:16:05.780 --> 02:16:10.100 Merge message. Yes. No question mark. Oh, I think there's another one in here for you 02:16:14.020 --> 02:16:18.740 Hey, look, it's a do you prefer working on your soft skills or technical skills? 02:16:18.900 --> 02:16:23.540 I've always been told my soft skills are great. So I end up in main positions 02:16:23.940 --> 02:16:26.340 But sometimes I hesitate if it's the right call 02:16:28.660 --> 02:16:36.580 Hmm I find working on technical skills to be more fun and feel more rewarding in the moment. I feel like 02:16:37.060 --> 02:16:46.340 working on soft skills Is less fun, especially because working on something often means failing to a certain degree and failing with soft skills 02:16:46.980 --> 02:16:53.060 sucks. Um But I find the long term not like short 02:16:53.700 --> 02:16:56.820 short term dopaminergic response, but the long term 02:16:57.620 --> 02:17:02.900 uh Deep appreciation response to working on soft skills to be higher. Um 02:17:04.820 --> 02:17:08.260 Yeah, maybe that's a good answer. Maybe not we're on with that 02:17:09.300 --> 02:17:13.220 Um, maybe I'll find another topic because I was relatively short. Do you have any thoughts on that Dan? 02:17:16.180 --> 02:17:19.780 I don't know the thing is like your your hard skills can be done 02:17:21.380 --> 02:17:24.340 By yourself soft skills you need other people to do that 02:17:24.580 --> 02:17:28.340 And so if you're not if you're not setting up an environment where you're interacting with people to 02:17:29.300 --> 02:17:31.300 You know work on soft skills, then it's not 02:17:32.420 --> 02:17:37.220 Yeah You want to jump to the pool robot video? 02:17:37.860 --> 02:17:41.860 You can say controversy thing. I don't even know what it is to be honest. I don't know what it is either 02:17:42.260 --> 02:17:46.740 Oh, yeah, we uploaded our pool cleaning robot video today, which obviously stirred up some comments 02:17:47.060 --> 02:17:50.100 Um, so we want to have an open discussion with you guys point number one 02:17:50.340 --> 02:17:54.260 Why don't they just go rent a pool somewhere else so they don't have to blur things 02:17:54.900 --> 02:17:58.180 Um, buying people to loan us a pool actually is not that easy 02:17:58.500 --> 02:18:03.460 Especially if we're going to like hug stuff in it. It needs to be not clean. Yeah 02:18:04.740 --> 02:18:07.140 Most pools that you can rent are going to be clean 02:18:08.020 --> 02:18:14.580 So, yeah We blur surroundings to protect privacy to the greatest degree that we can we always try to blur something if we can and it's 02:18:15.140 --> 02:18:19.700 Better slash faster to have the auto blur tool navigate around the host rather than trying to track individual Windows 02:18:19.700 --> 02:18:23.460 If the camera is moving point number two, why do we make pool bot videos? 02:18:24.180 --> 02:18:27.220 Short answer is right in the name of the video showcase 02:18:27.780 --> 02:18:33.700 um Got a great world-class team here. They need great world-class money 02:18:34.020 --> 02:18:42.180 Um, we've always tried to be extremely clear when we do these showcases versus an editorial or a sponsored video that is 02:18:43.460 --> 02:18:47.140 Integrated into the content um 02:18:47.140 --> 02:18:50.420 We explained this in our how LTT makes money video and ultimately we turned down 02:18:50.980 --> 02:18:56.260 Way more offers for showcases than we accept. It's only when we think we can make a video that's worth watching 02:18:56.260 --> 02:19:00.180 I mean, I watched that video. I thought it was actually pretty entertaining. I think elijah did a great job 02:19:00.740 --> 02:19:06.820 um And we let the host kind of carry the entertainment when we decide to take these kinds of showcases 02:19:06.900 --> 02:19:12.500 We also attempt to upload them on uh low performing days So as to not take away from the other videos we might post that week 02:19:12.820 --> 02:19:17.140 So it would be typical for a video like that to go up on a friday when 02:19:17.700 --> 02:19:22.500 If you are more into things that are not just a sponsored pool robot video, you could also watch the WAN Show 02:19:22.980 --> 02:19:25.860 So discussion question here is what could we improve next time? I mean 02:19:26.740 --> 02:19:31.940 I think there's a lot of things that we could improve. I think we could probably frame a little bit more carefully day of 02:19:32.420 --> 02:19:37.140 Um, you know try to make it so we don't have to blur as much. I think that um 02:19:38.100 --> 02:19:42.820 I think that's the biggest one. I think that's what most people were mostly concerned about was the blurring 02:19:42.900 --> 02:19:45.300 But in terms of the actual content of the video 02:19:46.340 --> 02:19:52.660 I don't know. I actually I I actually kind of enjoyed it. I thought elijah did a great job and I thought it was interesting to see 02:19:52.660 --> 02:19:58.580 Yeah, what is the actual difference in cleaning speed for the robot versus me for for those of you who don't want to watch the video 02:19:58.580 --> 02:20:03.940 Because uh blurring bothers you a smart angle because I understand this content could be difficult to 02:20:04.740 --> 02:20:07.780 Make interesting, but I'm skimming through it right now and that seems kind of cool 02:20:07.780 --> 02:20:13.700 Actually, the robot took a few hours It didn't get everything but it had enough battery left that it could probably do another pass and 02:20:14.420 --> 02:20:17.540 Like it would be done at that point. Um 02:20:18.260 --> 02:20:25.460 And I took an hour So I beat it by a factor of like six, but it also took you an hour, but I personally spent an hour 02:20:26.340 --> 02:20:32.340 Dragging sand and rocks and fake leaves out of my pool that elijah put there. Yeah. Yeah, I also 02:20:33.300 --> 02:20:44.660 That f***ing guy His stupid sand that here I'm gonna say I'm gonna give this to I'll send this to Dan Dan if you want to show this on stream 02:20:45.220 --> 02:20:47.220 um 02:20:49.220 --> 02:20:53.620 That guy uh Here hold on 02:20:53.620 --> 02:20:58.100 Yeah, I sent this to him Yeah, I'm gonna bring that uh 02:20:58.500 --> 02:21:02.820 Someone just said an hour of cvo time on cleaning a pool. Yeah, but as the vision officer 02:21:02.820 --> 02:21:09.060 He could see the stuff at the bottom of the pool more easily and you forget that my main role is 02:21:10.420 --> 02:21:18.100 Not really cvo It's just a it's just a role that kind of works to describe the most important thing that I do grand scheme of things 02:21:18.580 --> 02:21:23.060 But the thing that I actually spend the majority of my time on day today is more along the lines of 02:21:23.620 --> 02:21:28.420 primary host and editor in chief And oh no, and that that 02:21:29.780 --> 02:21:37.060 That encompasses a lot of different things like today I was actually on set for an entire shoot that I participated in only minimally 02:21:37.540 --> 02:21:41.780 Just as a training exercise for a couple of hosts one of whom was relatively 02:21:42.420 --> 02:21:46.340 Uh inexperienced still and you know, they just wanted me to 02:21:47.460 --> 02:21:52.740 Yeah, I thought that was really cool because the goal has always been to be a real company that isn't just 02:21:53.300 --> 02:21:57.620 A youtuber and his band of merry men, you know and some women even these days 02:21:58.020 --> 02:22:02.900 Um, you got that picture for you to be a real company, right? And part of being a real company is succession 02:22:03.460 --> 02:22:06.020 I am not going to be young and hip and cool 02:22:06.660 --> 02:22:12.980 Well, ever but um, I'll be even less young and less hip and less cool tomorrow than I was yesterday 02:22:12.980 --> 02:22:17.540 What do you mean? I know that's not very narcissistic. I know I know well 02:22:18.260 --> 02:22:20.980 What happened there? Well, it's almost oh no 02:22:21.540 --> 02:22:25.540 Okay, do you want to see the picture? Let's look at the picture. I sent Elijah 02:22:28.820 --> 02:22:35.220 What I can't Here can you zoom in Dan? I can show us. Can you show us my filter? 02:22:36.100 --> 02:22:38.660 For my pool. So those are your pool filters? Yeah 02:22:42.020 --> 02:22:46.340 That's the smallest sand I think I've ever seen those are not cheap 02:22:47.780 --> 02:22:55.780 Anyway Anyway, what a guy. What a guy. What a guy, but yeah, anyway, so pool bot video 02:22:56.340 --> 02:22:58.580 Uh, basically, uh, I'm sorry 02:22:59.700 --> 02:23:03.220 But I'll do it again Yeah 02:23:03.220 --> 02:23:06.420 Well, I like a full disclosure, right? Full disclosure 02:23:06.420 --> 02:23:10.740 We are fully disclosing everything that we're doing and if you want to watch a review 02:23:10.820 --> 02:23:17.700 We have that and if you want to watch a showcase of a pool robot We have that and we labeled it very clearly and we put it on a day when you were going to get other content anyway 02:23:18.180 --> 02:23:22.260 So which is like Pretty sick. I 02:23:22.260 --> 02:23:26.740 Stack the content. Yep I'm sorry 02:23:26.740 --> 02:23:33.460 About the overuse of blur I I yeah, I was skimming through it. It was a little egregious sometimes 02:23:33.940 --> 02:23:39.460 I get it But you got to do that once an experience and then go, okay, we can what are the things we can do about it next time 02:23:39.620 --> 02:23:45.620 But sometimes there's well, there's new factors new areas that we didn't anticipate needing to blur 02:23:46.180 --> 02:23:48.980 So it is what it is. Got it. I mean I've 02:23:49.540 --> 02:23:54.340 We have actually talked internally for years and years and years about just buying a house 02:23:55.060 --> 02:24:02.980 That is like a filming house Like the old days except except we don't actually operate the company there. We just use it as a filming set 02:24:03.860 --> 02:24:07.700 Anyone close to here would be kind of I my 02:24:07.700 --> 02:24:11.940 My main objection to it is that we are taking a house off the market that someone could live in 02:24:13.060 --> 02:24:18.260 Which like blows Oh, like shouldn't matter if we made enough houses 02:24:19.700 --> 02:24:24.980 But we don't but we don't so it does matter. We don't make enough houses. That's so and by we I don't mean like us personally 02:24:24.980 --> 02:24:27.700 I mean like we collectively here in the area that we live 02:24:28.420 --> 02:24:33.380 What if you built one? um That was like a set house 02:24:33.380 --> 02:24:38.100 That's still a piece of residential zoned property that another developer almost certainly would have built a house on 02:24:38.100 --> 02:24:41.220 Could you build a set house on non residential zoned property? I bet so 02:24:41.620 --> 02:24:46.420 Oh my god, okay. Now. I don't want to spend that kind of money on a house that no one will ever live in so separate problem 02:24:47.140 --> 02:24:52.580 um I mean nothing's impossible, but it wouldn't have like a pool like it wouldn't be like a proper house 02:24:52.660 --> 02:24:59.140 It would have to be more like a set It has to have a pool to be a proper house. Well, no, I wouldn't help us with pool robots 02:25:00.180 --> 02:25:05.620 Are you fair now you need a house with like four pools so one can be getting dirty in your pool 02:25:05.620 --> 02:25:07.620 Yeah 02:25:08.740 --> 02:25:12.340 A dirty pool factory robot race four-way race we need four pools 02:25:12.420 --> 02:25:17.140 Yeah, you couldn't possibly have them clean the pool one at a time in serial it takes too long 02:25:18.020 --> 02:25:22.900 Um, okay, what are we supposed to be talking about? Uh, some other topic 02:25:25.220 --> 02:25:28.980 Let's see. How about we do uh good guy moves from companies 02:25:29.300 --> 02:25:34.580 We asked we asked you guys last week to come up with some good guy moves from companies for an upcoming LTT 02:25:34.900 --> 02:25:41.780 And I thought we were going to be pretty led on topics this week So I thought hey, we'd highlight some of the really good ones that you guys have come up with already 02:25:42.340 --> 02:25:46.900 Dan if you want to post the reddit thread so if people could add more to them that would be awesome 02:25:47.380 --> 02:25:50.740 um And so yeah, I want to highlight some of the cool ones you guys came up with and also 02:25:51.380 --> 02:25:57.700 Solicit more examples of good guy moves from companies. So here's a few really good ones. This is from real train 02:25:58.420 --> 02:26:01.220 Bittersweet one, but google's handling of the stadia shutdown 02:26:01.700 --> 02:26:08.020 They refunded every game purchase and unlocked the proprietary controllers allowing them to be used as generic bluetooth and wired controllers 02:26:08.660 --> 02:26:12.580 That was a good guy move. That was cool. That was actually legitimately cool 02:26:12.900 --> 02:26:16.420 gimmick music one says for all the people give nintendo 02:26:16.820 --> 02:26:20.900 When the we you had such atrocious sales the executives at nintendo all took pay cuts 02:26:21.140 --> 02:26:24.420 So they would not need to lay anybody off. I reference this often 02:26:24.500 --> 02:26:28.180 It's a decision that has stuck with me even today in the grand scheme of triple a gaming 02:26:28.180 --> 02:26:33.060 I don't think that nintendo has ever implemented mass layoffs like sony ea or microsoft etc 02:26:34.500 --> 02:26:41.700 yes And flakfreak says microsoft of all companies still developing balancing and supporting age of empires two since 02:26:42.580 --> 02:26:48.900 1999 And doing it on steam not microsoft store. It's a smaller example, but it's a pretty cool one 02:26:48.980 --> 02:26:53.940 I'm surprised microsoft didn't get in there for their accessibility controllers, but I will also might have that's just a few examples 02:26:54.020 --> 02:27:02.580 the we you thing happened in like I don't know the we you launched in 2012. So i'm assuming 2013 and google stadia was announced to be shut down in 2022 02:27:02.740 --> 02:27:07.620 So when we dug down for examples of companies doing good things, we had to oh, I already closed them 02:27:07.700 --> 02:27:12.820 I'll be looked over span of a decade. Yeah. Well, give the community time. They're gonna find more stuff. Yeah 02:27:13.300 --> 02:27:17.060 They're gonna do it. They're gonna do it. There is other more recent examples. I'm just saying 02:27:18.740 --> 02:27:22.820 All right What else we got? Oh shoot 02:27:22.820 --> 02:27:28.180 Lots of topics. I accidentally collapsed a few of my like backup topics here. So i'll leave that one open 02:27:29.220 --> 02:27:35.700 Um, oh, I see. I'm gonna call out. Yeah, I'm gonna move them for you guys. Oh my goodness. Let's just do that one now 02:27:35.700 --> 02:27:42.740 Oh, oh, it's gone. Oh my goodness Dan, oh, you're killing me. Okay fine fine. Where is it now? 02:27:44.740 --> 02:27:47.540 Oh, what happened? Why is the rtx 50 60 one? 02:27:48.340 --> 02:27:54.100 Ah good old doc. I'm gonna I'm gonna put it above. It's just under main topics. Oh, okay 02:27:54.260 --> 02:28:00.740 Let's just do it now Thank you. Daniel Besser do what now these topics talking about the mic challenges. Well, no, we still have other topics 02:28:00.740 --> 02:28:04.980 We have like two we have like seven more topics. Oh, do any of them matter 30? 02:28:07.140 --> 02:28:13.140 HP agrees to a settlement over claims of falsely advertising pc and keyboards 02:28:13.380 --> 02:28:19.860 Um, they're paying four million dollars after a class action complaint accused the pc maker of showing 02:28:20.500 --> 02:28:24.820 Misleading original pricing for various computer mouse and keyboard products on their website 02:28:25.380 --> 02:28:32.500 Among the claims, uh, the suit alleged that hp.com advertised an aio printer on sale for $899 02:28:32.980 --> 02:28:36.260 And claimed the customer would save $100 instantly 02:28:36.740 --> 02:28:41.940 Though the printer had not been advertised for $999 for more than six months 02:28:43.220 --> 02:28:48.660 Permasale Is that a thing permasale? It's well, that's what I call it. What's the what's the like? 02:28:48.740 --> 02:28:52.820 What's the maximum end of how long you can have a sale on for that's what fun fact? 02:28:52.820 --> 02:28:59.380 That's why ncix had a weekly special. Yeah. Yeah where you'd have the same item in the weekly special and there would be a few hours 02:29:00.260 --> 02:29:02.260 In between the weekly special every week 02:29:05.380 --> 02:29:10.180 That's so much better so that you could have hard drives on sale always 02:29:10.740 --> 02:29:16.580 But they would not be in violation of any of these laws. There was a significant period of my life where I 02:29:16.820 --> 02:29:22.100 I went meticulously through every single ncx weekly sale. Oh, me too. Yeah hondo p. Yeah 02:29:23.140 --> 02:29:26.420 Um, anyway, hp isn't admitting any fault or liability 02:29:26.980 --> 02:29:31.940 But the settlement will see the original complainants. Um, we'll get them up to $5,000 each 02:29:32.260 --> 02:29:35.300 Which along with lawyer fees will come out of the four million dollar settlement pool 02:29:35.620 --> 02:29:39.940 While class members will receive 10 to 100 dollars depending on the product purchased 02:29:40.740 --> 02:29:43.940 And this is why I look at class actions. I'm just like, okay. That was 02:29:45.140 --> 02:29:52.340 Really good use of time for so anyone other than the lawyer who was involved. Hey, how are all those honey lawsuits going? 02:29:54.420 --> 02:29:57.860 Who knows who knows and I don't think anyone cares anymore 02:29:58.420 --> 02:30:04.740 Has beg a leg even like you were a much more interesting target than honey. I think I yeah, I think so the internet. Yeah, I think so 02:30:05.380 --> 02:30:08.980 Um forget that company. I found an individual 02:30:10.260 --> 02:30:15.860 Um, what is this EU thinks of children and takes action against harmful practices and videos? Yeah, this is cool 02:30:16.020 --> 02:30:22.420 What is this after a complaint by the swedish consumers association the consumer protection corporation network 02:30:23.060 --> 02:30:31.700 Cpc has taken action against Star stable entertainment ab makers of the massively multiplayer star stable online 02:30:31.700 --> 02:30:37.700 Can you call it massively multiplayer if I've never heard of it and luke's never heard of it for pc and mac 02:30:38.020 --> 02:30:42.740 And the star stable horses app for Android and iOS. I suspect that's more 02:30:43.460 --> 02:30:46.980 I'll be working on this for now and you do fantastic. It's a horse game 02:30:48.180 --> 02:30:52.820 Anyway carry on carry on. Wow the graphics are oh, I think I've I've heard of this. This is 02:30:53.540 --> 02:30:58.740 Obscenely popular. Oh It's it's like girlies crack 02:30:59.380 --> 02:31:05.620 Oh, that makes sense Yeah, that makes sense why we probably haven't heard of it right 02:31:05.860 --> 02:31:10.020 Yeah, I love how the the hair on the horse is like amazing 02:31:13.460 --> 02:31:18.660 Yeah, well you carry on Perfect. Um, yeah, so they have yeah 02:31:19.540 --> 02:31:23.220 MMO for pc and mac and they have star stable horses app for Android and iOS 02:31:23.620 --> 02:31:28.500 The cpc identified a number of practices that violate EU consumer protection regulations 02:31:28.820 --> 02:31:33.700 Which could be harmful to children including direct appeals to children in advertisements 02:31:33.940 --> 02:31:41.140 The use of pressuring techniques such as purchase through time limited practices a lack of clear and transparent information 02:31:41.380 --> 02:31:49.060 And failure by the company to ensure that the influencers promoting their products clearly disclose commercial content. Ah, yes 02:31:50.180 --> 02:31:55.540 Classic uh star stable entertainment has one month to respond with a plan to address these issues 02:31:56.020 --> 02:32:01.780 Discussion question. What do you think of this seemingly very cooperative approach to enforcement? 02:32:02.740 --> 02:32:07.060 Um I don't know. It seems cool 02:32:07.700 --> 02:32:15.300 I don't have a ton to say to that Um by cooperative do they mean the two different organizations teaming up because that happens elsewhere as well 02:32:15.380 --> 02:32:21.220 I've seen that before Um, I think it can make sense though. Often it's resource sharing and stuff like that 02:32:21.700 --> 02:32:27.620 Um discussion question could star stable replace tape to tape as Linus's go-to game 02:32:28.340 --> 02:32:33.300 I Jordan says I made you an account. It's under the LTT 02:32:33.940 --> 02:32:39.220 In the password manager download here You're just playing in the browser. Do you want the more full fad experience? I 02:32:39.860 --> 02:32:43.380 I can keep doing topics and you can my experience has already got enough 02:32:43.860 --> 02:32:50.180 You're not even through the character creator. Are you? No, i'm not. Oh, but you've got you've got an account. I feel like you got to download it 02:32:50.980 --> 02:32:56.180 Uh, I really don't think I do. I think this is important content for wanshow 02:32:56.340 --> 02:32:59.300 Don't think I do. I feel like you're doing a disservice to the people 02:32:59.780 --> 02:33:06.820 Um by not getting a ribbon or something. Anyway, the eu seems to be figuring out things 02:33:07.700 --> 02:33:11.620 Pretty good for the most part. This seems like another positive step in my opinion 02:33:11.940 --> 02:33:16.660 Even though he didn't do it, jordan, I appreciate that you set up an account for him and everything 02:33:17.380 --> 02:33:20.500 I think it was valuable Um 02:33:20.500 --> 02:33:26.020 Open ai is doing something probably horrible. Open ai is developing an early stage thing that sucks 02:33:26.180 --> 02:33:32.340 Kate sounds good. Um Intel investigating arc performance with older cpus. What is it? 02:33:32.500 --> 02:33:35.220 Open ai wants to build a social app basically cool 02:33:36.340 --> 02:33:41.700 Yeah, no, it's super old news, but Intel's finally acknowledged and they are investigating the CPU overhead issues 02:33:42.660 --> 02:33:46.980 With running arc gpus on older Intel and AMD cpus 02:33:49.460 --> 02:33:56.100 So Yeah, they're gonna be all sad because we brushed over that topic. It's not that we don't think the topic is important 02:33:56.100 --> 02:33:58.100 Yeah, it's important. Whoever wrote this it's 02:33:59.540 --> 02:34:04.500 It's just so gross. I like I don't want to talk about it. Open ai is a thing. Yeah. Yeah 02:34:08.340 --> 02:34:13.700 Either way, they want to make an app and then you can share your generated images on it so you can 02:34:14.420 --> 02:34:18.580 show your Ghibli drawings to other people that you didn't draw 02:34:19.220 --> 02:34:23.060 Sick and they can look at it and show you there are things that they didn't draw in other good news 02:34:24.020 --> 02:34:28.180 Blue origin practices sending millionaires to space for when the world ends. Maybe 02:34:28.900 --> 02:34:33.620 They're ns 31 flight launched on april 14th and made headlines for being an all-female crew 02:34:34.180 --> 02:34:39.140 The voyage was just under 11 minutes long and stirred up lots of controversies ranging from 02:34:39.380 --> 02:34:43.300 Outrage that celebrities are going to space to even claims that the flight was faked 02:34:43.380 --> 02:34:49.380 Yep Celebrities included pop star katie parry broadcast journalist gale king philanthropist lauren sanchez 02:34:49.780 --> 02:34:54.420 Philanthropist, okay, so wife of jeff bezos and film producer happy you reacted to that 02:34:54.500 --> 02:35:02.820 karyan flim The other two members included former nasa rocket scientist aisha bow and bioastronautics research scientist amanda newian 02:35:03.780 --> 02:35:07.700 Some i'm not even going to talk about the theories that it's fake. They're really stupid. Um 02:35:08.340 --> 02:35:14.020 It's just filming stuff and timing. Yeah, don't worry about that door was open already because they had to make sure they were okay 02:35:14.100 --> 02:35:18.980 Oh fiance not wife. Yeah, thank you. Um, whatever. Okay, so do people hate katie parry now? 02:35:19.140 --> 02:35:24.340 Like why do people hate katie parry? I I don't actually know. I literally don't don't know and honestly 02:35:24.900 --> 02:35:28.980 deeply Fundamentally to my core don't care. She's fake 02:35:30.340 --> 02:35:36.100 They turned on her they married. Oh, she married russell brand. Is she still rustle married to russell brand? 02:35:37.220 --> 02:35:40.580 Oh Yeah, he's an idiot 02:35:40.820 --> 02:35:45.220 Uh No, they broke up 02:35:45.300 --> 02:35:51.540 Dude, they broke up. We're married from 2010 to 2012. What are you even talking about nothing to do? 02:35:53.460 --> 02:35:56.340 Yeah, that all that's all that's such a lame reason 02:35:56.740 --> 02:36:00.340 There's not there's no way there's no way because they liked her way after that 02:36:01.380 --> 02:36:05.140 There's there's no way I don't believe it. Um 02:36:06.340 --> 02:36:10.340 I don't know man people people seem to 02:36:10.340 --> 02:36:13.780 Her new song was terrible. I think she collaborated with some 02:36:14.740 --> 02:36:21.940 Guy that people don't like on it or something Worked with this shady dj. Yeah, she collaborated with some guy and they didn't like that guy 02:36:23.220 --> 02:36:25.460 Okay, I mean there's maybe something there 02:36:26.820 --> 02:36:33.780 Anyway, yeah, people seemed like really mad that she went to space and some people seem especially mad that like celebrities 02:36:34.420 --> 02:36:38.660 Like went to space just because they're celebrities, but I got to be honest with you guys like 02:36:39.460 --> 02:36:43.140 I'd do it the thing if they offered to send tech tips man to space 02:36:43.700 --> 02:36:47.140 Questionably and and like if we're if we're having real talk right now 02:36:47.860 --> 02:36:52.740 You'd do it. Yeah, I wouldn't blame katie perry for this one. Yeah, sorry 02:36:53.300 --> 02:36:58.020 Oh something to consider as well about these people is you're mad about the stuff that you see 02:36:59.300 --> 02:37:01.620 Like trust me. There's so many things you don't see 02:37:02.740 --> 02:37:08.100 uh And like the whole reason that you're seeing it and talking about it at all 02:37:08.660 --> 02:37:14.740 Is because they did this with celebrities if they had only sent the scientists. No one would even know this apparently is oh 02:37:15.300 --> 02:37:22.100 Hold on. No, this is definitely not footage that we can just use on WAN Show, but uh, we can watch it 02:37:22.660 --> 02:37:27.140 Uh, jeff bezos apparently face plants as part of the the whole thing 02:37:28.340 --> 02:37:33.300 Like on purpose. No, I don't think so Haha 02:37:33.320 --> 02:37:35.320 Sorry 02:37:44.680 --> 02:37:46.680 It's pretty funny not it's pretty funny 02:37:49.320 --> 02:37:53.460 Anyone falling is funny. It's just I don't know. It's funnier when it's a billionaire. Yeah. Yeah 02:37:53.540 --> 02:37:59.780 So it was funny, but he did catch himself to be clear. I don't I don't actually know enough about jeff bezos to like hate him hate him 02:37:59.780 --> 02:38:04.780 He's just a billionaire to me. I don't think he's seems much worse than other billionaires 02:38:04.780 --> 02:38:11.520 I could be mistaken about that. How much money do you think he made in the time that he lost his balance and then hit the ground? 02:38:12.860 --> 02:38:14.860 That's gonna keep me up tonight 02:38:16.980 --> 02:38:25.500 Only about two or three seconds, but like that's gotta be like an annual salary for someone. Yeah, like for sure. I'll be multiple 02:38:26.820 --> 02:38:28.820 Yeah, that hurts 02:38:30.420 --> 02:38:37.540 Anywho Yeah, people are upset because the door opened before Bezos went and like did the turn the crank thing 02:38:37.540 --> 02:38:43.860 I think it was for filming reasons. I suspect they opened the door like right away to 02:38:44.340 --> 02:38:47.580 Make sure that they were chill. I haven't looked into it almost at all 02:38:47.580 --> 02:38:51.660 But I'm just assuming that the second they were like, oh, they opened the door and then they closed it and they opened it 02:38:51.780 --> 02:38:58.740 ceremoniously I was like, yeah Red tape and filming this is like yeah a thing like this may surprise you 02:38:58.860 --> 02:39:05.260 But when we do our grand opening party at smash champs in a couple of months the mayor is gonna cut a ribbon 02:39:06.660 --> 02:39:11.640 Smash champs was already open. Yeah for like a while. Yeah 02:39:12.180 --> 02:39:18.180 It's okay. It's okay. It's alright. It's it's yeah, it's performative and that's that's okay sometimes 02:39:18.180 --> 02:39:23.460 Yeah, I don't know the whole story. There might be other things behind it I don't know but the the like a little bit of the clip that I saw 02:39:23.460 --> 02:39:26.980 I'm like they open the door and then he goes and like kind of waves at them and closes the door again 02:39:27.020 --> 02:39:30.940 And he's like, uh, it looks like he's like, oh, no, no, no, we need the door closed still 02:39:30.940 --> 02:39:37.820 We're gonna get the shot and then he closes the door. Yeah, it's like Okay, yeah, there's probably stuffy in there and they wanted to open the door whatever 02:39:38.780 --> 02:39:42.700 Who knows? All right What are we doing? 02:39:42.700 --> 02:39:47.180 Great warehouse product sightings roundup. It's been a lot of it. Oh, yeah, this is pretty cool 02:39:47.700 --> 02:39:53.780 John Gadget featured the LTT screwdriver and precision driver in a tools and everyday carry roundup 02:39:54.780 --> 02:39:58.900 He likes spoiler. He likes both. So this is pretty cool 02:39:58.900 --> 02:40:01.740 I'm only gonna show a little bit of one of them. Oh my god 02:40:02.500 --> 02:40:07.940 I'm only gonna show a little bit of one of them because I want y'all to go watch the video 02:40:08.940 --> 02:40:11.980 Here you go. Oh, look at that. Look at that. Hey, that's my that's me 02:40:12.540 --> 02:40:16.140 That's me. Hey look hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hey look a narcissist 02:40:17.700 --> 02:40:22.100 Okay, hold on LTT screw. Wow. He actually actually talked about the screwdriver for a really long time. Wow 02:40:22.580 --> 02:40:25.980 That's uh That's super cool 02:40:25.980 --> 02:40:31.340 And then here's a precision screwdriver. All right, cool. Yeah, so guys Dan's gonna link all of these videos 02:40:32.900 --> 02:40:42.580 Thanks, Dan LTT screwdriver also appeared in Mr. Who's the Bosses video testing youtuber products. By the way, we low-key 02:40:43.740 --> 02:40:47.180 Killed it What? 02:40:47.180 --> 02:40:52.740 What? That's so cool. That's pretty sick. Yeah, he gave us a nine and a half 02:40:53.540 --> 02:40:56.460 Nine and a half. We were the highest scoring 02:40:57.020 --> 02:41:02.260 YouTuber product nobody got a ten. Nobody got a ten. So I was I was pretty pleased with that 02:41:02.780 --> 02:41:06.460 The commuter backpack was reviewed by Aaron at nomads nation 02:41:06.460 --> 02:41:10.740 It's a 21-minute review that gives a great look at most of the features of the bag 02:41:10.820 --> 02:41:14.640 He especially likes the sleek style and the design of the tech compartment 02:41:15.640 --> 02:41:20.560 Yeah, I guess I'm I guess I'm like doing this for all of them. Okay. Well, there you go 02:41:20.560 --> 02:41:29.200 There's the thumbnail. You guys are gonna have to you're gonna have to watch these videos I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take away the joy of watching the videos and then okay, William Ozzman 02:41:30.640 --> 02:41:33.000 Ended up with a very cursed 02:41:33.840 --> 02:41:39.560 flesh-toned silicone LTT driver his pain machine video screw driver 02:41:39.760 --> 02:41:46.360 Yeah, so this one-of-a-kind LTT flesh driver was made by Sebastian from CW 02:41:46.600 --> 02:41:52.560 It was unsanctioned It was after hours and he presented it to William at open sauce last year 02:41:52.840 --> 02:41:58.560 Seb said he made the abomination because it was a terrible thing to make and William would enjoy it 02:41:59.560 --> 02:42:03.760 He made the mold from a production screwdriver so that he could get the texture right 02:42:04.520 --> 02:42:09.240 You will have to do that yourself if you want one of these because we are not selling them no matter how much 02:42:09.240 --> 02:42:11.240 you beg 02:42:13.480 --> 02:42:20.040 That is horrible have you have you held it no this shouldn't exist you gotta check out you got to check out them 02:42:20.440 --> 02:42:27.760 It is one of the worst things. It's so I feel like I feel like it in his hand would need to be blurred here 02:42:27.760 --> 02:42:30.160 Can I can I show this part of the video? Yeah, just show it 02:42:31.600 --> 02:42:36.480 Watch he'll show it like he'll he squeezes it when you see him pull it so you can tell it's like flexible 02:42:36.480 --> 02:42:41.240 That's why I call it the screwdriver I want to do his and hers 02:42:42.080 --> 02:42:46.960 That is horrible Neat anyway, finally 02:42:48.360 --> 02:42:56.080 It's not that's gonna be a whole thing. Oh boy sound of the bit compartment. Can we get sound real quick? Oh, yeah, sure Luke 02:42:57.240 --> 02:42:59.600 Yeah, whatever you want to play it. Whenever you ready, okay? 02:43:02.080 --> 02:43:05.880 Is anyone else's LTT screwdriver like this it's got like 02:43:06.520 --> 02:43:13.360 Skin are they yanking my balls just mushy. I don't want to say what it feels like I'm grabbing listen 02:43:15.440 --> 02:43:17.720 Last week I figured out I was being charged 02:43:35.880 --> 02:43:37.880 Oh 02:43:39.000 --> 02:43:43.920 That video in general is actually extremely interesting by the way, it's really cool 02:43:44.760 --> 02:43:51.840 It's all about having Like cold hot cold hot and it tricks you into thinking that you're like burning 02:43:52.320 --> 02:43:56.200 Because of the it's too close for your nerves or something he explains it all in the video 02:43:56.680 --> 02:44:02.440 But it's it's actually a really really cool video. I would suggest checking it out. It's all you're never making that product 02:44:03.440 --> 02:44:07.960 During work hours ever during no, I don't care 02:44:07.960 --> 02:44:13.280 I don't want to know I don't want people to put an LTT logo there during work hours. That's fair 02:44:13.280 --> 02:44:15.440 But it would sell like crazy. No 02:44:16.520 --> 02:44:21.000 No Okay 02:44:22.000 --> 02:44:26.600 Bootleg market finally, it's not a creator warehouse product, but it is something we built 02:44:26.760 --> 02:44:30.000 Doug DeMiro gave an update on his Lambo racing rig 02:44:30.000 --> 02:44:33.240 It finally arrived and it sounds like they managed to beat the tariffs 02:44:33.240 --> 02:44:36.320 But his team ran into a bit of trouble reassembling it because of whiskey 02:44:36.920 --> 02:44:41.520 Doug plans to have visitors set lap times in the rig and maintain a leaderboard 02:44:41.680 --> 02:44:46.520 So he responded to that here so you guys can go check that out for him as well 02:44:48.320 --> 02:44:55.640 Okay, I am We're getting there. What was done? Oh a discussion question. What's the coolest LTT product sighting you've had? 02:44:55.640 --> 02:45:03.040 I mean for me, I think the most fun ones are when I see someone wearing the hoodie or the backpack and I walk up and I'm just like 02:45:03.600 --> 02:45:11.240 Nice hoodie or like Nice backpack and then I keep moving and they don't realize who I am me too. I actually love that 02:45:11.240 --> 02:45:15.200 Yeah, I love playing that game I don't know if it's because they just bought the product because I think it's a good product 02:45:15.200 --> 02:45:21.800 They have no idea what LTT is or like me personally or if they just like were taken aback or didn't recognize me out of that 02:45:21.840 --> 02:45:26.120 Context or whatever. I don't care. Why I just I love it. I love just being like hey 02:45:27.360 --> 02:45:32.680 I often think they they legitimately probably don't know who I am so I'm not on camera as much anymore 02:45:33.440 --> 02:45:36.080 But I just take that as an opportunity to be like, I don't know 02:45:36.680 --> 02:45:41.200 It is nice and it looks good on them. So I will tell them. It's fine 02:45:46.040 --> 02:45:49.280 Yeah, trade war escalates but stuff sucks I 02:45:50.280 --> 02:45:57.560 Don't know trade war continues to ramp up and video expects 5.5 billion in losses AMD expects 800 million in losses 02:45:57.840 --> 02:46:04.640 Chip export license restrictions to China smartphones semiconductors and consumer electronics are temporarily exempt from reciprocal tariffs 02:46:04.640 --> 02:46:08.440 But it's still subject to a 20% tariff. That's because as far as I can tell 02:46:09.280 --> 02:46:14.860 Tim Apple went to went to orange guy and was like, please don't and then he was like, okay, cool 02:46:15.340 --> 02:46:20.860 Other products now face up to 245 percent because numbers don't even matter anymore in stacks tariffs 02:46:21.180 --> 02:46:24.940 Combining multiple rounds from both Trump and Biden administrations in retaliation 02:46:24.940 --> 02:46:28.660 China has suspended exports of key rare earth metals and magnets 02:46:29.060 --> 02:46:34.460 Potentially disrupting everything from aerospace to gaming peripherals NVIDIA has reaffirmed its 02:46:35.300 --> 02:46:40.360 $500 billion commitment to US production with blackwell chips being manufactured at TSMC's Arizona fab 02:46:40.720 --> 02:46:45.160 Sony has hiked ps5 prices again in Europe. I don't know how that makes any sense 02:46:45.460 --> 02:46:51.400 Australia and New Zealand as game consoles reportedly aren't exempt from apparently that's to blend 02:46:51.920 --> 02:46:58.360 Their costs across all the regions So they're absorbing some of the cost of the tariffs by having consumers pay more worldwide 02:46:58.520 --> 02:47:01.080 That's interesting because they don't do it the other way around 02:47:01.960 --> 02:47:09.040 Switch to keeps its $449 price launch price, but accessories like joy cons and pro controllers are going up about five bucks 02:47:09.080 --> 02:47:15.640 Which seems low to be honest US consumers are turning to Chinese shopping apps like DH gate and Taobao 02:47:15.760 --> 02:47:20.340 Which are now topping the app store charts as people try to buy direct and dodge 02:47:20.960 --> 02:47:24.760 Heavy markup platforms like Xi'an and Timu. I don't think that's gonna work 02:47:25.840 --> 02:47:36.000 Bruh, it'll work for now For like a little bit. Yeah. Well, I talked about how people are apparently like stocking up hard on non-essentials. Yeah fair. Yeah, yeah 02:47:36.760 --> 02:47:41.800 Yeah, I've had people being reaching out saying like I'm worried that my computer isn't gonna make it 02:47:41.800 --> 02:47:49.360 I won't be able to forward it on the other end. I can technically afford it now So I'm gonna jump now just to give you some idea Luke of the absolute 02:47:49.880 --> 02:47:52.800 Like insanity of what we're seeing right now 02:47:54.800 --> 02:48:02.080 Our net sales for our Q2 of 2024 so for those of you not familiar with the Q system 02:48:03.080 --> 02:48:08.920 We're 18 days into Q2 it goes from April to the end of June beginning of April end of June 02:48:10.040 --> 02:48:12.600 Our numbers for Q2 of last year 02:48:13.480 --> 02:48:17.200 Are slightly lower what we have done in the last 18 days 02:48:19.320 --> 02:48:21.320 Slightly lower 02:48:23.920 --> 02:48:30.080 What Obviously people like shipping promos and it's not wondering why we have a promo on lttstore.com 02:48:30.440 --> 02:48:34.000 Where over a hundred fifty dollars you get free shipping anywhere in the world by now 02:48:34.640 --> 02:48:38.800 MCM is discounted. So obviously the margins are a little lower a lot lower 02:48:39.200 --> 02:48:44.320 This time around so it's not actually like from a profit standpoint. That's not that's not how it works 02:48:44.320 --> 02:48:46.720 Yeah, but a big part of it is also 02:48:47.600 --> 02:48:54.080 just People knowing like okay if if tariffs at you know potentially hundreds of percent 02:48:54.960 --> 02:49:02.560 Do go into effect on May the 2nd Costs are going to go up in a very substantial way on items that are manufactured overseas 02:49:03.400 --> 02:49:08.280 Particularly in China. So if I want something that's made in China, which like a lot of things are 02:49:09.640 --> 02:49:12.840 Now's the time to get on it. Yeah 02:49:15.120 --> 02:49:18.880 All right, do you do you want to I think 02:49:19.440 --> 02:49:25.200 These are interesting topics these go next week probably we could do these next week 02:49:25.200 --> 02:49:29.520 I'm I'm really excited to collab with badminton insight, but I think we've already kind of talked about that 02:49:29.520 --> 02:49:31.520 Oh, have we talked about how nerd sports is coming back? 02:49:32.960 --> 02:49:40.680 Dan do you know nerd sports is getting a new episode. I think now it's official. Okay, we're doing it 02:49:40.800 --> 02:49:44.280 So the pro players that we're going to be playing against are 02:49:45.560 --> 02:49:53.440 going to be Greg and Jenny from badminton insight who recently reached the semi-finals at the all England open 02:49:53.440 --> 02:50:00.200 Which is kind of a big deal badminton tournament. They put on the performance of a lifetime in front of the home crown home crowned 02:50:01.320 --> 02:50:09.320 Freaking slip a home crowd In England and they're coming out here to do a tour of the facility and they will also be shooting nerd sports with us 02:50:10.080 --> 02:50:15.440 David who had was the genius behind our last couple of April Fool's videos 02:50:16.160 --> 02:50:22.360 Fantastic, it's going to be the writer producer for most recent scraphead wars the budget's a little lower on this one because Channel Super Fun 02:50:22.360 --> 02:50:26.480 Doesn't make money, but I think we did find a sponsor. So we are making it work 02:50:26.480 --> 02:50:33.600 We're giving it a little bit of resources So we're doing one more, you know lost hurrah episode of nerd sports, and I'm actually really excited 02:50:33.600 --> 02:50:37.200 I will not be playing for the keyboard warriors though. Who's playing this time? 02:50:37.200 --> 02:50:44.240 I am too good at badminton. Yeah, it makes you properly be like a joes against pros player who's playing 02:50:45.440 --> 02:50:49.600 I don't oh should I reveal it? Oh, I don't know. I think 02:50:50.320 --> 02:50:55.360 We could talk about it next week. I'm I think the plan is to have four play 02:50:55.360 --> 02:51:00.440 You know, it's really late to bother David. I'm not gonna bother David. I was interested, but I never got tapped 02:51:00.440 --> 02:51:02.440 I think it's to have four players 02:51:03.480 --> 02:51:07.920 And they'll tag team They'll tag team out. Oh 02:51:08.240 --> 02:51:12.960 And we have some fresh we have some really great challenges for the pros David and I were there 02:51:13.560 --> 02:51:18.120 Yesterday, I think it was and I was trying a lot of the challenges for myself. So 02:51:19.840 --> 02:51:23.720 Greg and Jenny might watch this so I don't want them to know what's coming, but you don't want to spoil it for 02:51:23.720 --> 02:51:28.000 Yeah, I want to spoil it for anybody, but we have some fun interesting 02:51:28.840 --> 02:51:30.840 Challenges nice exciting 02:51:32.040 --> 02:51:36.040 And I'm really excited sweet there. That's it. That's all I have to say about that very cool 02:51:37.040 --> 02:51:42.960 I'm always told being let's like a box of chocolates. I might I might show up and hang out in the premium section just watch 02:51:44.160 --> 02:51:52.400 Okay We're not allowing spectators in general, but I'll make a one exception for Luke because he helped us configure our gym 02:51:52.400 --> 02:51:56.240 He's allowed in the gym whenever he wants actually put a lot of work into it and our gym is super nice 02:51:56.240 --> 02:52:01.080 I guess so many compliments on our gym people come up to me tears in their eyes. It's this is the greatest gym 02:52:01.080 --> 02:52:04.920 I've ever seen your gym 02:52:04.920 --> 02:52:07.560 Beautiful beautiful gym. It's wide. It's wide 02:52:13.320 --> 02:52:19.320 It's pretty yeah, it's pretty good. Okay. I'm yeah, let's let's switch after dark. I still wish I had a green chair 02:52:19.320 --> 02:52:21.320 Let's do it after dark time 02:52:23.840 --> 02:52:26.400 Maybe one day well look how fast a good cop 02:52:28.320 --> 02:52:31.440 You should get his fingers warmed up with lots of merch messages every week 02:52:32.440 --> 02:52:38.200 Is that it Dan is that what's going on? No, this is the flow it made a little bit more sense tonight 02:52:38.200 --> 02:52:43.640 I think a couple weeks ago. You're just like now. We're not doing any of these. Okay. When after dark I was scrambling 02:52:44.280 --> 02:52:49.560 You could see this you the day new ma, right? We got it. We got to do a better job than we got to make it more chaotic 02:52:49.560 --> 02:52:52.280 Yeah, I might my life's too easy and I'm not stressed enough. Yeah 02:52:52.680 --> 02:52:58.520 Hi guys I've been living in Canada for almost two years coming from Brazil you guys 02:52:59.240 --> 02:53:03.160 Thought me a lot about Canadian culture. You taught me a lot about Canadian culture 02:53:03.160 --> 02:53:07.920 What in each of you or your three opinions is the most unique Canadian thing? 02:53:10.280 --> 02:53:14.760 Man, it's it's a super Canadian thing to like not give a f*** about your Canadianness. I 02:53:15.880 --> 02:53:19.880 Don't know if that's unique to us, but it's just it is in stuff. It is so 02:53:22.000 --> 02:53:26.960 Contrastful with our southern neighbors that like you can like you can actually drive 02:53:27.160 --> 02:53:33.080 You know through a town in Canada and See Canadian flags like only on government buildings 02:53:34.360 --> 02:53:38.000 That's the norm. Yeah, we don't we don't do that changing a little bit 02:53:38.000 --> 02:53:40.560 But it has actually changed quite a bit. Yeah 02:53:42.400 --> 02:53:47.520 Yeah, we've never been patriotic and now we are yeah, it's very I wouldn't say we've never been patriotic 02:53:47.520 --> 02:53:54.080 I'd say in our adult lifetimes. It's kind of faded to a significant degree that doesn't necessarily mean that 02:53:54.640 --> 02:53:57.840 We don't value our sovereignty. It just means that 02:53:58.720 --> 02:54:06.760 Like I don't know. I think we're just kind of chill about it I feel like we see ourselves very much as members of the world instead or instead of 02:54:08.520 --> 02:54:13.480 Aspirational members of the world because the reality of it is fair enough kind of not that relevant 02:54:13.840 --> 02:54:20.000 There are a lot of the time but the like only reason why we're included a lot of stuff is because we were included in the big war that 02:54:20.040 --> 02:54:25.560 Established a lot of stuff Not because our economy is like strong or we're particularly influential. Yep 02:54:25.600 --> 02:54:30.120 We built an ARM for some cool thing that floats around the world. That's pretty neat. I was pretty cool. Yep 02:54:30.760 --> 02:54:35.120 What what was exactly the base question is like unique most unique Canadian thing 02:54:35.720 --> 02:54:40.800 For me, it's always been our one road. Yeah, our one road. That's pretty good 02:54:40.800 --> 02:54:44.640 Yeah, that's that South Park episode where they joke about the only road in Canada 02:54:44.640 --> 02:54:49.320 Just follow the only road like that actually like is a thing. That's true. That's my favorite highway number one 02:54:49.320 --> 02:54:56.040 Yeah, we only have one is is the the one like federal highway that actually goes through every province 02:54:56.400 --> 02:55:00.320 And it doesn't even go through the territories. So there are parts there 02:55:00.320 --> 02:55:05.760 There are times when like a bridge along that road will will fall into disrepair and 02:55:07.840 --> 02:55:15.480 Get across Canada Trucks and stuff will have to drive down into the states and cross the border to come back part of it is also a very 02:55:16.400 --> 02:55:23.000 Yeah, there's there's no way to get across it and part of it is is actually a boat. Yeah, have you ever taken the highway one boat? 02:55:23.240 --> 02:55:28.720 I've heard of it, but I haven't taken it. Yeah crazy. Yeah, dumb country. That's a good example 02:55:32.040 --> 02:55:37.800 I don't know I think we're the only Orton's Tim Hortons is trash and owned by a Brazilian conglomerate 02:55:37.800 --> 02:55:42.080 I was just gonna say I think we're the only country in the world that has a very strong argument for 02:55:42.520 --> 02:55:51.320 nationalizing a fast food chain Yeah, I think Canada needs to as a country needs to buy Tim Hortons and make it not suck again because it like 02:55:52.840 --> 02:55:59.200 Actually, I think it should like offend our country that a thing that was genuinely a defining part of our country 02:55:59.200 --> 02:56:04.040 Which it absolutely was it isn't anymore, but it absolutely was and it sucks 02:56:04.040 --> 02:56:11.360 And it's bad now and people still remember that and will come to Canada excited to try Tim Hortons and then be like 02:56:12.080 --> 02:56:19.920 Wow, this is bad and Canada sucks and Canadians have no taste. Yes. Yeah, those things actually get associated together. It's crazy 02:56:20.240 --> 02:56:27.400 It's a It we we as there maybe there's some other solution, but we should not have allowed it to become bad 02:56:27.400 --> 02:56:32.280 I think that's a uniquely Canadian thing is any time a company gets big enough 02:56:32.680 --> 02:56:38.720 It can no longer be Canadian by law. It seems being listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange is like 02:56:39.560 --> 02:56:44.040 Trashed here to not become good and being being owned by 02:56:44.640 --> 02:56:47.440 Basically, you get so big that when it's time to sell 02:56:47.760 --> 02:56:50.760 No other Canadian entity can afford to buy you anymore 02:56:50.840 --> 02:56:58.000 So you just sell to an international conglomerate and then that's why the major companies in Canada are mostly 02:56:58.520 --> 02:57:05.040 Internationally owned there are a handful of exceptions Shopify would be one but I don't know how long they're gonna be hanging around 02:57:05.040 --> 02:57:09.640 Yeah, Bombardier would be another one Hudson Bay Company. Yeah, well 02:57:14.080 --> 02:57:17.040 Everyone in Canada has kind of known. Yeah rip ATI 02:57:18.720 --> 02:57:25.680 ATI yeah, a big side one. Well in Nortel a little bit different of a rip, but still yeah, I 02:57:26.960 --> 02:57:31.200 Think everyone up here is known that Hudson's Bay Company was going away for a long 02:57:31.520 --> 02:57:36.240 Oh, yeah, I mean, I haven't set foot in one in my adult life that I can remember so long enough 02:57:36.240 --> 02:57:40.440 Why would you yeah, I'm a major shame. I'm amazed they've lasted as long as they did. Yeah 02:57:42.920 --> 02:57:44.920 That's right, I think the hub is Canadian 02:57:46.120 --> 02:57:52.960 Well, yeah, a major company. I mean, they're a major company. You can't deny it. Oh, yeah, they're Canadian that hub 02:57:52.960 --> 02:58:00.720 Yeah, yeah, North Vancouver. I think it came up a lot recently about when you know when we were supporting Canadian companies. Yeah 02:58:02.080 --> 02:58:09.400 Wait What you're there from North Vancouver. No, no, they're back east. That's they are A&W 02:58:10.120 --> 02:58:18.200 Their headquarters is in North Vancouver. Yeah. Oh, yeah, A&W Canada confused so much. I'm sorry a completely different company from A&W USA 02:58:18.200 --> 02:58:24.560 I was desperate for food and I was in the States and I got a team burger to A&W. It was inedible. It was completely 02:58:24.960 --> 02:58:31.880 Disgusting. Yeah, I would say that if you want to have Canadian fast food these days if you come to Canada and you're like, okay 02:58:31.880 --> 02:58:38.440 What's like good Canadian fast food? Go to A&W. There isn't a lot. Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's pretty much it get a Costco poutine 02:58:39.720 --> 02:58:46.000 Actually one of the best in Canada Costco counts. Yeah dead anti-social says the American A&W used to be good like 20 years ago 02:58:46.240 --> 02:58:50.200 Yeah, it's trash now. It's so bad. Oh 02:58:51.440 --> 02:58:58.880 Yeah, triple O's triple O's is good Canadian fast food as well. Those are actually darn good burgers. You might have a harder time finding them 02:58:58.880 --> 02:59:05.200 Yeah, that's Western Canada, so yeah, that's why I didn't really bring them up, but that is a good point 02:59:05.880 --> 02:59:09.000 We'll give them that. All right Hit me Dan 02:59:09.000 --> 02:59:13.840 Hi, Ong I've Anne. This is a speed type comment 02:59:14.160 --> 02:59:21.760 My employer recently hit the big 100. What kind of achievements do you hope to have if LMG lasts that long? 02:59:21.920 --> 02:59:26.600 Also, hi Vod me. Well, the achievements won't be mine personally because I'll be long dead 02:59:27.600 --> 02:59:32.200 So there's that your tech you're original people at the company would be gone 02:59:32.200 --> 02:59:37.800 Yeah, so I would I would hope that LMG doesn't lose its soul. I would hope that it's still a cool place to work 02:59:38.320 --> 02:59:43.560 I would hope that, you know, we still have a culture of like kicking butt and working hard 02:59:49.400 --> 02:59:55.600 I would hope that we do a good job of both competing hard in the tech media space 02:59:55.600 --> 03:00:01.720 But also Building a collaborative atmosphere and environment with our competitors 03:00:03.040 --> 03:00:05.040 What else would be on the list? 03:00:07.080 --> 03:00:10.600 I would kind of hope that they still haven't taken outside investment 03:00:11.440 --> 03:00:16.000 Hmm interesting. How does that work though? Because there'd have to be succession of some sort 03:00:16.200 --> 03:00:19.160 Do we do we go monarchy like what do you what are you thinking here? 03:00:21.040 --> 03:00:23.800 What if they started buying up other companies ah 03:00:24.800 --> 03:00:28.800 Man M&A is not really like 03:00:29.800 --> 03:00:35.720 My jam we've always been like a grind it out and make it from the ground which honestly is kind of stupid 03:00:35.720 --> 03:00:40.280 Yeah, I think about it Yeah, I don't know 03:00:40.280 --> 03:00:42.800 I don't know and I don't know how that works necessarily 03:00:46.000 --> 03:00:50.080 I think the main thing is I wouldn't want like a conglomerate, right 03:00:50.360 --> 03:00:57.840 Yeah, so at the very least maybe we could manage like a small ownership group. I don't know I think I have no idea 03:00:57.840 --> 03:01:01.040 I I can't claim to have the answer, but I 03:01:01.720 --> 03:01:08.440 mean, I guess I I'm gonna have to figure out the answer at some point at some point because there's only so many exit strategies, right? 03:01:08.720 --> 03:01:11.760 like you can sell you can 03:01:13.760 --> 03:01:18.720 You can convert to like like a co-op you can 03:01:20.800 --> 03:01:26.920 What else can you do you can shut down very popular one right now, which is something that you like half did 03:01:27.720 --> 03:01:33.920 Which is you get a new CEO and then you just retain all ownership and just take reports once a year and don't do anything with the 03:01:33.920 --> 03:01:38.400 Won't help us hit a hundred. I'll die so someone's gonna have to own the company at some point 03:01:39.520 --> 03:01:46.040 Yeah, but yeah, you said exit strategy that is a thing. Oh sure sure sure sure sure I mean I meant like from ownership, right 03:01:46.760 --> 03:01:49.880 Anyone else thinking? Oh, yeah pass on to kids 03:01:50.560 --> 03:01:56.440 That's one. So that's the monarchy route. That's the monarchy route. Yep. I don't know if any of your kids 03:01:58.040 --> 03:02:02.520 Could be a paper my son asked to do a video and 03:02:03.200 --> 03:02:08.840 I gave him the least glamorous assignment possible to see if he actually cares and 03:02:09.120 --> 03:02:13.400 He appears to be working on a review of the new Kindle color. I 03:02:14.240 --> 03:02:20.160 Really couldn't think of anything less glamorous. That's pretty not glamorous than a Kindle e-reader 03:02:20.160 --> 03:02:26.840 Yeah, but he is asking a lot of the right questions And I'm guiding him a little bit, but I'm not doing any work for him 03:02:26.840 --> 03:02:31.360 And it is a product that he genuinely uses like the old paper white 03:02:31.880 --> 03:02:37.400 So I was planning on actually doing the video myself because I just wanted the new Kindle color because it looked cool 03:02:37.400 --> 03:02:41.040 And so I grabbed the new paper white and I grabbed the color and I was like well 03:02:41.040 --> 03:02:47.440 I'll work on this in my spare time So I made some notes and I passed those along to him as well as giving him some ideas for where he could look for 03:02:47.440 --> 03:02:51.800 Information other professional reviewers customer reviews his own thoughts 03:02:52.440 --> 03:02:57.920 Making sure not to plagiarize any of that and to compile it into, you know, his own thoughts and I 03:02:58.880 --> 03:03:03.520 Told him that if he comes up with a script for it 03:03:04.280 --> 03:03:08.640 That I would help him that I would help him review it and that he could host part of it 03:03:09.200 --> 03:03:13.320 So who knows who knows that's kind of cool. We'll see I 03:03:14.040 --> 03:03:17.200 Do you think it's go public was another exit strategy? 03:03:17.320 --> 03:03:23.200 Do you think it's something he's intrinsically interested in or do you think he's struggling to find things that are interested in and is doing a 03:03:23.200 --> 03:03:29.200 Fairly classic maneuver of I'll do what dad does Hard to say he definitely because 03:03:30.240 --> 03:03:37.120 Kids young. Oh, yeah, he's young. He might just be playing around like I just totally fair. I was way 03:03:38.000 --> 03:03:42.920 less Driven to do anything when I was his age then he appears to be I mean 03:03:42.920 --> 03:03:48.640 I didn't try to do anything that my dad did even yet. He's got some of on. Yeah. Oh, definitely. Yeah, he's like 03:03:48.640 --> 03:03:52.920 But he's the 50 50 and then the next one is mine 03:03:53.640 --> 03:03:56.040 And the next one is Yvonne's 03:03:57.120 --> 03:04:02.680 Like we just kind of the the preschool teacher who had all of them 03:04:02.680 --> 03:04:06.040 So I think there's only one teacher. No, there's actually two now 03:04:06.120 --> 03:04:11.640 but before there was there was one teacher who got all of them for preschool and 03:04:12.800 --> 03:04:16.320 About a week into my youngest's first term 03:04:16.840 --> 03:04:22.200 I'm dropping her off in the morning and she kind of goes you kind of pulls me says boy. Did you ever get a variety pack? 03:04:25.560 --> 03:04:27.760 Yes, we did yes, we did 03:04:30.120 --> 03:04:35.860 Okay I'm a dev I work on my own projects, but I feel like I'm running out of time 03:04:36.240 --> 03:04:43.440 But I'm afraid about going live or selling How did you deal with anxiety of starting running and maintaining LTT? 03:04:44.000 --> 03:04:53.960 Nike Just do it. Oh, no, never mind. I thought you're making a running joke. Nope. Nope. Just you just do it ship it 03:04:55.200 --> 03:04:57.200 We don't really 03:04:58.200 --> 03:05:03.160 Spend much time in pre-production for anything 03:05:05.600 --> 03:05:12.440 That's not fair. I'm gonna mean what do you mean? That's not we do you guys spent a lot of time in pre-production for air table 03:05:13.680 --> 03:05:22.360 Months That's a lot of time six. Yeah, there boom boom. He's got nothing. I definitely have stuff 03:05:22.480 --> 03:05:26.240 Founding you can talk about whatever you want. It's a free country 03:05:26.240 --> 03:05:34.400 It was one person Reconstructing the entire communication and process system for the entire company six months was not enough 03:05:34.400 --> 03:05:39.200 It would have it could have either taken more time or more people, but we had a point 03:05:39.200 --> 03:05:46.320 We had a point where it was like the value proposition of continuing to spend time on this doesn't really fit how you said 03:05:46.960 --> 03:05:51.240 Time not man hours objectively. I am correct six months 03:05:51.520 --> 03:05:57.180 Objectively man hours is not the term anymore of time that this is true, but you understood me and the point of language 03:06:02.400 --> 03:06:09.720 CW does that's fair. Yeah, they really do think they're the only ones they spent three years in pre-production of a screwdriver 03:06:10.800 --> 03:06:12.880 This be real clearly. We ain't rushing them 03:06:14.520 --> 03:06:18.360 All right, so the website is the worst. I mean, I think that you just got a 03:06:18.920 --> 03:06:22.280 Okay, you don't want to do reputational damage by launching something that's not ready 03:06:23.320 --> 03:06:27.200 You also have to just get stuff out there, but you also yeah, you have to ship is it usable 03:06:27.760 --> 03:06:34.520 Yeah, will it be useful for anyone? Will it be worth the asking price for anyone if the answer is yes, then don't oversell it 03:06:34.640 --> 03:06:38.200 Say what it is say who it's for and as you continue to refine it 03:06:38.200 --> 03:06:41.960 You can say what more it is and what more people it's for and you can grow from there 03:06:41.960 --> 03:06:47.320 Maybe I don't know what your product is. So you want you want a big spike of inspiration get those first user tickets coming in 03:06:47.320 --> 03:06:53.920 Yeah, get it in front of people and see if people care at all because if they don't that's good to know stop working on it 03:06:53.920 --> 03:06:57.200 Stop wasting your time Yeah, but if they do and then they're like, oh man, this is cool 03:06:57.560 --> 03:07:05.840 Doesn't really work because of X and Y reasons, but it's cool Then you can fix X and Y reasons and then keep going. What is the new term for man hours people hours human hours? 03:07:05.840 --> 03:07:08.680 I think it's labor resource. Oh, stop it. I 03:07:09.640 --> 03:07:16.080 Mean, that's my favorite. I've generally said people hours people hours. Okay, so what if dogs working on it? 03:07:17.360 --> 03:07:21.200 Being hours that would be part of labor resource organism hours 03:07:22.520 --> 03:07:24.520 That's close, but yeah 03:07:26.640 --> 03:07:29.200 Feels like kind of a basic thing to call it though 03:07:32.360 --> 03:07:34.360 Oh age 03:07:37.280 --> 03:07:44.000 Work hours Work hours work. That makes more sense. The problem with work hours is a lot of people associate it with 03:07:44.880 --> 03:07:49.640 An individual. Yeah, and de is illegal really say so it's man hours now 03:07:52.400 --> 03:07:54.400 And they cost 30% more 03:07:55.800 --> 03:08:00.560 They give me 245% more. Oh, I like billable hours 03:08:01.920 --> 03:08:07.760 Billable hours is pretty good, but it's generally in a contracting sense. I like labor 03:08:07.880 --> 03:08:12.200 You don't generally Afa says if a dog's a Labrador it could be lab 03:08:13.680 --> 03:08:19.360 And if a dog's a shitsuit could be shit hours, I mean, oh, I don't need to bleep that cuz it's a dog 03:08:19.360 --> 03:08:23.920 It's a dog. It's not a swear word. It's a dog. And if you tell me I need to bleep it. That's poppycock. I 03:08:28.720 --> 03:08:33.120 Don't think most people are gonna understand that this is like actually a word what poppycock, isn't it? 03:08:33.360 --> 03:08:35.400 Well, you act like they've never seen a titmouse before 03:08:36.400 --> 03:08:38.400 Or just a tit 03:08:40.480 --> 03:08:42.480 Or a bony-ass fish 03:08:45.560 --> 03:08:52.480 Human capital, thanks, that's great too human capital is pretty good human labor resource suffering capital 03:08:54.200 --> 03:08:57.000 How many hours in the wagey cage does this 03:09:06.000 --> 03:09:09.200 Hasn't converted you to a salary employee yet with no overtime 03:09:09.560 --> 03:09:13.320 No, this is my Corpo training showing 03:09:13.840 --> 03:09:18.360 We took courses on abusing employees and you can only be in a wagey cage if you're getting an hourly wage 03:09:18.400 --> 03:09:24.880 He's he's getting You've been paying I'm an hourly plenty of overtime. Oh, no, I know I meant you're not oh, yeah 03:09:24.880 --> 03:09:30.960 Yeah, I'm not paying for as of like three or four hours ago. I think. Oh, yeah, whatever. Yeah 03:09:30.960 --> 03:09:34.800 I like on average work like 12 to 14 hours on Fridays alone 03:09:35.400 --> 03:09:39.760 Yeah, I didn't work a 14 hour day today just because of other reasons 03:09:41.000 --> 03:09:46.240 Yeah, that's what he's currently on that grind. Yeah, boy. It's fun. I mean you guys do it watch him 03:09:46.240 --> 03:09:53.440 I think I've been have I ever gotten overtime. I think I've been sorry forever. Did I uh, hold on not realistic 03:09:54.440 --> 03:09:58.760 I don't know If it ever happened, it wasn't real. Yeah 03:10:00.160 --> 03:10:04.480 Yeah, truthfully, I don't know I don't think so I doubt it because who 03:10:04.600 --> 03:10:07.040 Who would have logged in? Yeah, you should join a union 03:10:08.080 --> 03:10:11.680 The other thing is if you if you follow the standard rules 03:10:12.320 --> 03:10:15.680 Then you like context you wouldn't be allowed to work 03:10:16.600 --> 03:10:19.860 That time that Luke got cancelled instead of me 03:10:21.960 --> 03:10:24.520 There's a long story behind that don't worry about it 03:10:26.240 --> 03:10:32.280 Should I explain it I can explain it I Don't care. I worked at one union job. I just like that you're cancelled instead of me 03:10:32.640 --> 03:10:38.920 You should He's not gonna let me now. Yeah, I worked at one union job ever 03:10:39.520 --> 03:10:44.680 The job was fine. The people I worked with at the plant was fine. It was it was a bread factory 03:10:45.160 --> 03:10:51.240 My brother had worked there previously and a lot of the workers there that knew him were were very cool with me 03:10:51.240 --> 03:10:54.360 They liked my brother, but the union rep hated him 03:10:55.120 --> 03:11:01.560 Hated him so the union rep took it out on me. I can't imagine why anyone would ever get into it with your brother 03:11:03.280 --> 03:11:05.360 To be clear about love rich 03:11:07.920 --> 03:11:13.080 But I could imagine that I understand it it's almost like the LaFrenier boys 03:11:14.600 --> 03:11:19.320 Being a little hot headed in common. I was gonna say I understand it because I understand it for me as well 03:11:21.840 --> 03:11:24.040 We are somewhat alike in that way 03:11:25.040 --> 03:11:30.240 But yeah, and he would take it out on me by by just screwing with me with schedule 03:11:30.680 --> 03:11:37.480 Because the union rep set the schedule and it was like a war and my actual boss man guy at work couldn't do anything about it 03:11:37.480 --> 03:11:41.320 And it was super annoying Luke Nukem the union buster. I'm not a union buster at all 03:11:41.320 --> 03:11:45.800 my brother was in the Teamsters union when he worked for the movies and 03:11:46.280 --> 03:11:56.240 That sounded and seemed pretty cool And now he's in the firefighters union and the firefighters union is amazing. Yeah, if you can get in yeah, but there does appear to be 03:11:56.840 --> 03:12:04.080 Some potentially union related factors that make it very difficult to get in that's also a problem. There's that yes 03:12:04.160 --> 03:12:12.040 What Luke is trying to say is that they are not perfect? No, there's ups and downs and they have they there's points in history where like oh dear 03:12:12.680 --> 03:12:17.960 God if they didn't exist things would have been bad, but they're not they're not always universally good 03:12:20.840 --> 03:12:25.680 Anyways More 03:12:26.480 --> 03:12:35.200 Why not? Hey, LTD and first time buyer greetings from Mexico sup what percentage of orders do you guys get from Latin American countries? 03:12:35.200 --> 03:12:40.400 The last time I got one of your products was the original gangster screwdriver from Amazon nice 03:12:40.840 --> 03:12:44.040 That is a good question. I do not know I 03:12:45.440 --> 03:12:51.840 Can tell you that right now there are 155 visitors on the site there are at least 03:12:52.880 --> 03:12:55.560 three of them in a Mexico 03:12:56.680 --> 03:13:00.520 To in Brazil currently visiting you're talking about yeah on the site right now 03:13:02.000 --> 03:13:06.320 Those are the Latin company companies countries. I am most familiar with 03:13:07.240 --> 03:13:09.240 No one else in anywhere in South America though 03:13:11.880 --> 03:13:21.400 Part of that's probably The almost almost nothing in Europe right now, but I think that's quite time zone related because Europe and Australia usually light up 03:13:21.400 --> 03:13:25.120 Pretty good when there's a lot of people on the site. Yeah, they were earlier in the show. Yeah, that makes sense 03:13:26.760 --> 03:13:31.720 Yeah, so I don't know that's that based on a sample size of a hundred fifty a 03:13:32.280 --> 03:13:35.120 Few oh one more in Brazil just now the little 03:13:35.560 --> 03:13:42.700 The little Shopify dashboard has a little like like a little arrow that comes out from your location to the 03:13:42.760 --> 03:13:46.800 To the dot that it makes so if all y'all in Brazil 03:13:47.320 --> 03:13:51.640 Okay, if all y'all go to the site right now, it'll be like 03:13:52.520 --> 03:13:56.640 To your location in Brazil, so let's see how many Brazilians are watching 03:13:57.520 --> 03:14:00.000 How real-time is this? I think it's quite real-time 03:14:02.640 --> 03:14:04.640 Il maher was there 03:14:08.920 --> 03:14:13.760 Objectively annoying to everyone both sides of the aisle 03:14:13.760 --> 03:14:15.760 I 03:14:17.440 --> 03:14:22.200 Mean the visitors going up right now is going to like yeah, it's going up 03:14:22.720 --> 03:14:28.760 But I don't think any of them are in Brazil. It's no it's a bunch of North Americans. It's oh, there we go. Oh 03:14:30.680 --> 03:14:34.720 Okay, well, I don't know the little animation only goes sometimes I don't know if you guys saw that but it went to like 03:14:35.440 --> 03:14:37.880 Somewhere in the Eastern United States just now. Oh 03:14:38.640 --> 03:14:43.280 Wait, no no no no yeah, there's more dots Yeah, there's more dots, but it didn't make the little pee-pee-pee thing 03:14:43.280 --> 03:14:47.760 So there's like I don't know another like seven people see a bunch like down. Yeah, I see it 03:14:47.760 --> 03:14:51.560 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, that's also just getting darker. There's also a bunch of people who seem confused 03:14:51.560 --> 03:14:54.200 That is not Brazil right there at the top there 03:14:56.600 --> 03:14:58.600 That's Peru according to my risk map 03:15:00.600 --> 03:15:04.400 Well, I told only the Brazilians. Oh, yeah, and some of these have hair 03:15:04.680 --> 03:15:06.680 I 03:15:09.200 --> 03:15:12.200 Heard Dan like physically react to that. I just 03:15:13.520 --> 03:15:17.600 Nothing Ignore me 03:15:17.600 --> 03:15:23.600 Evening whansters question for Luke any updates on setting up the mainline ID 03:15:23.840 --> 03:15:31.120 LLM integration for the development team wouldn't the 100k server with its NVIDIA a 100s be the perfect fit for this job 03:15:31.120 --> 03:15:33.120 We're just using those new Macs 03:15:34.400 --> 03:15:40.560 I think they were just trying to get you to pressure me to buy a $100,000 server. Oh, no, we're just gonna do that which would 03:15:41.640 --> 03:15:45.600 No, we're not no no, we're not that would not have worked. Well, however 03:15:46.600 --> 03:15:53.240 It could have I don't even have to ask you if Supermicro wanted to like sponsor something or whatever like to ask you lend us one 03:15:54.360 --> 03:15:58.320 What do you mean you don't have to ask me? I thought it's hard to tear it. What is your approval limit? 03:15:58.320 --> 03:16:05.280 I would talk to Terry. No, I think that's above his approval limit You have to go to the shareholders at a certain point. Does he have an approval 100,000 up? 03:16:06.800 --> 03:16:11.920 I actually need to write this down if you do give me a number. Yeah, because I'm working on that right now 03:16:11.920 --> 03:16:16.000 Yeah, there's like a good little automations and stuff. Yeah, are you just calling them? 03:16:18.320 --> 03:16:21.060 Karen, I don't mind bugging supposed to do meetings about this 03:16:23.080 --> 03:16:25.720 Billable hours nice all right 03:16:27.120 --> 03:16:30.360 Then he has to do time off in Lou. Hey, you're live on the WAN Show 03:16:31.920 --> 03:16:34.640 Yeah, yeah, it's every Friday 03:16:38.400 --> 03:16:46.320 Yeah, you should probably know that if you like are the CEO of the company you know, it's about the same thing too 03:16:46.560 --> 03:16:53.640 So remember I called you before and I was asking about my approval limit for purchase requests 03:16:54.480 --> 03:16:58.560 Yeah, yeah, we were talking about that again. What is your approval limit? I 03:16:59.280 --> 03:17:03.000 Was just talking to a vulnerable guy yesterday, so you have to go out this week 03:17:04.280 --> 03:17:09.360 Okay, but you don't actually know you don't know he didn't have one. I have it as an affinity signal 03:17:09.360 --> 03:17:14.560 I got in trouble by the time when we're doing consumer research and you weren't super happy about the amount of money I spent 03:17:14.880 --> 03:17:19.840 So the words were I'm okay with a run rate spend anything else 03:17:19.840 --> 03:17:24.320 I'd like to be at least consulted even though you have discretion in terms of where you should spend money even though I might disagree 03:17:24.640 --> 03:17:31.560 That sounds like something I would say that sounds pretty reasonable. Yeah, okay, and how much was that consumer research that? 03:17:44.320 --> 03:17:51.800 Because I refused to say on the show before Which is why he's trying to ask you now. Yeah, I was gonna say it but I had I legitimately just forgot how much it was 03:17:51.800 --> 03:17:56.080 So, okay, cool. Well, it's a good thing you dodged that bullet. Make sure you let me know how much that 03:17:58.160 --> 03:18:01.880 Pretty good actually, I think you're getting better at this. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Aaron 03:18:05.360 --> 03:18:10.000 I'm amazed that they're actually gonna have conversations about that this week. This must have spurred some 03:18:11.040 --> 03:18:16.880 Accounting conversations. That's probably after talking to CEDO. Okay, well, we'll have to get you guys an update on that 03:18:16.880 --> 03:18:24.880 What gets measured gets managed, right? Yeah, and then automated so nobody ever has to think about it again. Yeah, that's Luke's that's Luke's MO sick 03:18:24.880 --> 03:18:28.640 I've adopted that thinking is bad. I hate doing 03:18:29.360 --> 03:18:32.860 Terrible should ever think again 03:18:32.880 --> 03:18:34.880 Hurtie 03:18:36.640 --> 03:18:41.440 Just before anyone freaks out because I feel like we're gonna get canceled for the second time like 10 minutes. No 03:18:42.160 --> 03:18:47.360 Not the approach. We're just trying to make it so that people don't have to think about like small meaningless things that don't matter 03:18:47.360 --> 03:18:52.040 I have spent six months thinking really hard so that I don't have to think for like five seconds 03:18:52.040 --> 03:18:55.400 Yeah, but then you compound that across everyone in the company. Yeah 03:18:56.400 --> 03:18:59.920 I was looking for budget laptops and found your video last month 03:19:00.000 --> 03:19:06.640 Why did you break budget at the end when the idea originally felt like you were reviewing options for people that can't make enough? 03:19:08.080 --> 03:19:11.200 I was looking for budget laptops. Why did you break budget at the end? 03:19:11.200 --> 03:19:18.000 Are you talking about the one where we looked at the at the top selling laptops because we didn't have a budget on that one? 03:19:18.840 --> 03:19:24.560 We were just looking at the top selling ones And the reason that we included the MacBook was because it was one of the top selling ones 03:19:24.560 --> 03:19:30.040 And we thought it was really interesting that it was three or four times the price or whatever it was 03:19:30.800 --> 03:19:38.440 and We had you had to go to like the number 25th selling item to find a PC that was priced anywhere near it 03:19:38.440 --> 03:19:41.880 So we thought it was really interesting that PC buyers buy these crappy 03:19:42.520 --> 03:19:47.400 crappy computers and then Think that PCs kind of suck 03:19:47.800 --> 03:19:54.200 But they're willing to spend a decent amount of money on a Mac on like a lot of money on a really nice Mac 03:19:54.200 --> 03:19:58.600 And then they're like oh Macs are good, and I just thought that was an interesting conversation. That was 03:20:03.800 --> 03:20:08.320 Yeah, I Don't I don't think it was a matter of like breaking breaking budget 03:20:08.320 --> 03:20:12.520 We just wanted to talk about that the top selling the most popular laptops 03:20:12.520 --> 03:20:15.680 Why they're the top selling most popular laptops in the case of the PCs 03:20:15.680 --> 03:20:19.000 It was because they're cheap and we thought it was really interesting that in the case of the Mac 03:20:19.000 --> 03:20:23.920 It was for a different reason it was because of the brand value that Apple has built by never 03:20:24.640 --> 03:20:27.320 building cheap crappy machines 03:20:28.240 --> 03:20:30.240 Well, at least not cheap ones anyway 03:20:31.440 --> 03:20:37.440 Yeah Mark my PC cut fire while gaming 03:20:37.440 --> 03:20:41.200 Oh, the power cord melted and arched until I got an extinguisher 03:20:41.200 --> 03:20:48.840 Couldn't unplug due to the fire and arcing blocking the UPS what causes a cord to melt after nine years power supply exhaust 03:20:53.160 --> 03:20:58.280 I would have to imagine The only thing I can think of would be a loose connection 03:20:59.280 --> 03:21:05.280 Like if you had a loose connection that could heat up the housing and if the housing heated up and melted enough 03:21:05.560 --> 03:21:08.320 That those conductors could get close enough. It could arc 03:21:09.280 --> 03:21:14.280 That's the only explanation that springs to mind for me, but I am not an expert 03:21:15.800 --> 03:21:17.800 on this 03:21:21.320 --> 03:21:28.520 Hmm Hello DLL for Linus whatever happened in the end with your pool contractor 03:21:28.520 --> 03:21:34.640 I know the pool is finished, but how did the conversation end the conversation ended with us having paid way too much money 03:21:34.640 --> 03:21:36.800 it having taken way too long and 03:21:37.640 --> 03:21:45.240 Us basically saying Look, we still owe you a little bit of money not nearly enough for how much work you have outstanding 03:21:45.240 --> 03:21:50.000 But we never want to speak to you again. We are not giving you any more money and you are never coming here again 03:21:50.520 --> 03:21:55.200 We don't expect warranty coverage because quite frankly, you'd probably break it more anyway. Goodbye 03:21:56.000 --> 03:21:59.760 Sounds reasonable for how long that whole thing dragged out like I 03:22:00.640 --> 03:22:03.200 Think that's probably the best they could have hoped for we could have sued them 03:22:03.680 --> 03:22:07.720 We decided that it was a waste of money and time and we have better things to do 03:22:08.560 --> 03:22:12.520 But we would have quite easily gotten a settlement 03:22:14.640 --> 03:22:18.520 Because they did stuff that was just brazenly illegal in their billing and stuff 03:22:20.840 --> 03:22:24.040 Thanks for the great products 03:22:24.040 --> 03:22:30.640 I think Apple Silicon would make better Nintendo gaming devices than the switch to should Apple buy Nintendo 03:22:30.920 --> 03:22:37.280 What do you think that would do to Apple gaming? Wow? I was with you there and then you went you were on the rails 03:22:37.280 --> 03:22:40.200 And you went I curated this one immediately 03:22:41.920 --> 03:22:49.040 No Apple should not buy Nintendo I can't think of any two companies whose cultures are more different and yet 03:22:50.360 --> 03:22:53.080 Reach such similar outcomes. Yeah 03:22:53.720 --> 03:22:59.520 Tim Marriott the horseshoe problem. They've they both are companies with like wild stocks of cash 03:23:00.080 --> 03:23:03.880 Yeah stores of cash. Yeah stockpiles stockpiles of cash 03:23:07.920 --> 03:23:09.920 No, no Apple should not buy 03:23:11.640 --> 03:23:15.640 That would do nothing for Apple gaming it would continue to be Nintendo gaming 03:23:16.120 --> 03:23:24.200 And Apple would continue not caring about gaming. That's another thing Apple would never buy Nintendo as for whether Apple Silicon would make a better 03:23:24.200 --> 03:23:26.600 Nintendo gaming device than the switch to I mean that's 03:23:28.240 --> 03:23:32.880 There might be an argument there. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think we've seen a 03:23:33.400 --> 03:23:37.120 Like for like comparison between NVIDIA's latest GPUs and Apple's now 03:23:37.120 --> 03:23:40.800 It's also gonna be really because of DLSS. We really need to see the effects. Yeah 03:23:41.160 --> 03:23:45.800 Like it's the switch to is honestly gonna be an incredibly interesting device to evaluate 03:23:48.520 --> 03:23:51.320 Despite being not an incredibly interesting device 03:23:52.320 --> 03:23:57.920 I'm interested in that one. Why are you so interested in though? It's like the least it's the switch, but like better 03:23:57.920 --> 03:24:04.920 Yeah, which is not interesting, but it's everything. That's it's less crappy stuff being less crappy. It's pretty interesting to me in current year 03:24:04.920 --> 03:24:07.640 Oh, I feel that hard that hurt 03:24:08.000 --> 03:24:14.520 That hurt my soul a little bit. Oh, oh God. Oh, he's so right. We're coming out of six 03:24:19.040 --> 03:24:29.080 Is he wrong though About how exciting it was that you can walk into a store and buy a GPU for over MSRP for $10 over MSRP 03:24:29.080 --> 03:24:35.760 It's only $10 over price. Oh my goodness. I hate current year. I say that so much 03:24:36.120 --> 03:24:38.120 Oh, I want to go home 03:24:40.560 --> 03:24:42.560 No 03:24:43.600 --> 03:24:47.600 Okay, let's just keep going Hello 03:24:47.600 --> 03:24:53.960 LTT I'm curious about your swear policy. What would you classify as quote-unquote bleepable? 03:24:53.960 --> 03:24:56.800 I sometimes hear you hear your stream and 03:24:57.360 --> 03:25:04.200 Videos say things I thought would have been bleeped out, but ours pretty frequent. I mean mistakes. Yeah, sometimes we just you know 03:25:04.400 --> 03:25:13.000 pull a boner And we accidentally don't bleep something that probably should have been bleeped 03:25:13.880 --> 03:25:17.960 also the like the rules around swearing are 03:25:19.200 --> 03:25:25.440 Sort of nebulous and complicated like South Park did a really funny episode. It hits the fan where 03:25:26.080 --> 03:25:33.200 they sort of poked fun at censorship rules and like how it was, you know 03:25:34.240 --> 03:25:40.520 Depending on the the usage of the word which we generally do bleep regardless of the usage 03:25:40.520 --> 03:25:47.760 It was like, okay. That's right with the sensors or it wasn't depending on whether it was like used as an adjective or 03:25:48.600 --> 03:25:56.840 I forget I forget the exact reasons But mr. Garrison like stands on the at the board and sort of explains what you are and what you're not allowed to say 03:25:58.200 --> 03:26:07.680 It's also evolved over time Like I and and it's and it's region-specific to like for example over over here 03:26:08.600 --> 03:26:14.480 Cuck is generally considered to be like probably bleepable, but maybe not 03:26:15.560 --> 03:26:18.600 and then like Dick is like 03:26:19.800 --> 03:26:23.400 Some people are like, oh my god, I can't believe I can't believe you didn't bleep 03:26:23.880 --> 03:26:26.420 Dick whereas I just kind of I'm like 03:26:27.920 --> 03:26:31.840 Yeah, no one cares here so 03:26:31.840 --> 03:26:37.400 Yeah, someone in chat said Aussie's in the C word. Yeah. Yeah, like all the C words like like 03:26:38.840 --> 03:26:46.200 Yeah, big deal. No, no up here. Yeah, I don't even say it like off-camera. No. Yeah, and then it's 03:26:47.880 --> 03:26:50.840 Yeah, so conversation down there. It's just it's just a different like 03:26:51.800 --> 03:26:56.600 Societies will determine if they're it's all just noises we make with her face 03:26:57.320 --> 03:27:02.920 Societies will determine which ones are cool and which ones aren't yeah So, I mean, you know for us, I'd say, you know the things that 03:27:03.440 --> 03:27:08.880 We don't use it all whether the camera's rolling or not, you know, you've got your n-word, right? 03:27:10.120 --> 03:27:14.480 Things that we use and bleep, you know, that's you're like you're 03:27:15.480 --> 03:27:22.680 You know That sort of thing and things that we just kind of let slide is like you're being a real ass about the situation 03:27:23.680 --> 03:27:31.080 Damn it If you add hole to the end of it, it becomes worse and I think yeah, that is bleeped on TV 03:27:31.080 --> 03:27:35.400 But just the front section is not but if you say them together, that's really bad. Yeah 03:27:36.120 --> 03:27:40.160 That's interesting. I Think that's our current 03:27:40.960 --> 03:27:47.480 Censorship laws, I can't quite remember. Oh, yeah chat. That's why I smiled Jay Jay Christo 8 says bollocks and wankers 03:27:47.480 --> 03:27:50.800 Would probably never be on British TV, but here it's hilarious. Oh, yeah 03:27:51.600 --> 03:27:58.520 It's like funny because bollocks because it sounds so British or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, definitely you swear 03:27:59.880 --> 03:28:04.920 And like I wouldn't care at all if it was in my non-native tongue. So like like 03:28:05.520 --> 03:28:08.200 You know, like as a French word who cares, right? 03:28:09.040 --> 03:28:11.040 All right, carry on 03:28:12.960 --> 03:28:18.360 Let's see LDL fixed my son's RC car resoldering parts on the board 03:28:18.480 --> 03:28:23.520 He watched and got the spark in quotes of wanting to learn Linus 03:28:23.520 --> 03:28:29.840 What is a dad moment where you saw that your kids have that childlike curiosity? Oh, it's been really cool watching the girls 03:28:30.160 --> 03:28:32.800 Get really into the 3d printer. I think 03:28:33.600 --> 03:28:39.840 They like all of a sudden wanted to like sign up for lessons and like learn computer stuff 03:28:41.360 --> 03:28:46.800 Before that they mostly were just like used it as a gaming box. So that was pretty cool 03:28:49.240 --> 03:28:53.280 Watching watching little man the 03:28:53.280 --> 03:29:03.000 Not just genuinely Deeply curious, but actually like have good questions and seem to like care and want to learn more and get more out of it 03:29:03.000 --> 03:29:07.640 Oh, yeah, we attended a tour together. Are we allowed to say where we toured? Yeah. Okay. We went to NASA. Yeah 03:29:08.360 --> 03:29:11.360 Luke arranged everything and I 03:29:12.320 --> 03:29:16.520 Asked my son because like usually I don't really do vacation 03:29:17.080 --> 03:29:22.240 Like I don't go anywhere like when I get time off the thing that I'd rather do more than anything else in the world 03:29:22.240 --> 03:29:26.440 It's just sit And do nothing and think about nothing 03:29:26.720 --> 03:29:31.800 But in this case Luke invited me out of as a courtesy even though he knew I probably wasn't gonna go and I was like 03:29:31.800 --> 03:29:35.800 Oh, that would probably be really interesting for my son. The girls are still a little young for that 03:29:35.800 --> 03:29:40.680 I think it would have been a lot for them and I especially think that now that it's done because it was a lot of walking and a 03:29:40.680 --> 03:29:45.480 lot of knowledge dumps, but he had an absolute blast and 03:29:47.000 --> 03:29:52.480 unintended and Asked so I thought some really salient questions 03:29:52.480 --> 03:29:57.840 He did which was surprising to me it demonstrated. He was really paying attention and thinking about it and 03:29:58.520 --> 03:30:03.040 You know given how shy he was when he was very very little. It was cool to see him speak up in a group setting 03:30:03.040 --> 03:30:05.720 So yeah, lots of moments. I mean as a parent 03:30:06.440 --> 03:30:10.120 They're gonna come constantly. There was a bit of trust there too because like 03:30:10.880 --> 03:30:15.720 It's not generally a tour you bring kids on like you're not that generally necessarily allowed 03:30:15.960 --> 03:30:18.320 because there's areas you're going to that are like 03:30:20.040 --> 03:30:24.400 They're not kid friendly. No if you're around it's like a problem. Yeah 03:30:25.040 --> 03:30:28.640 Like for other people too like it's a safety concern. Yeah 03:30:29.120 --> 03:30:32.840 But there was there was some trust there and he was totally good the whole time. Oh, yeah 03:30:32.840 --> 03:30:35.240 He's a great kid unflinchingly good, which was great 03:30:37.080 --> 03:30:39.760 Are there any new sticker sets coming? Yes 03:30:40.360 --> 03:30:47.480 I've bought a case which has three fans in the front behind an acrylic panel with zero air flow 03:30:47.480 --> 03:30:54.000 Any suggestions on how to approve mesh so I have something in front and avoid limbs getting stuck if I cut it 03:30:54.000 --> 03:30:58.520 I can't believe the timing of this Okay, so first of all you can cut a hole and then you can drill some holes 03:30:58.520 --> 03:31:04.560 And then you can buy a little mesh fan filters But but that's not actually what I want to talk about what I want to talk about is that we're collabing with NASA 03:31:05.240 --> 03:31:13.560 to answer the question of How far does a fan need to be from a panel to work effectively cool? 03:31:13.560 --> 03:31:19.360 And they've got like the science for it. It's gonna be really cool. That's awesome. Yeah, I was talking to Adam about it today 03:31:19.360 --> 03:31:27.560 I'm like super excited. That's sweet That's freaking awesome because there's so many applications where you want to know that like how high does your computer case have to be off 03:31:27.560 --> 03:31:32.000 The floor before that power supply fans not effective. Yeah, what about if you have a vertical GPU mount? 03:31:32.000 --> 03:31:36.840 How close does it have to be from the side panel before those fans are really impeded also the front fans? 03:31:36.920 --> 03:31:40.960 And I think I came up with one other scenario So yeah, it's gonna be awesome 03:31:40.960 --> 03:31:45.000 That's sick actually Hey, dynasty you can land. How do you? 03:31:45.680 --> 03:31:49.120 Draw the line on how much internal information to show I 03:31:49.600 --> 03:31:55.280 Feel like your transparency bites you in the ass more often than it helps you for me 03:31:55.280 --> 03:32:01.720 A big part of my problem is that I am not detail-oriented enough to lie even if I 03:32:01.720 --> 03:32:03.720 wanted to 03:32:05.240 --> 03:32:11.800 Honesty honesty by incompetency. It really is the best policy to tell the truth and 03:32:13.200 --> 03:32:19.040 To And to it's so much more legit than people understand 03:32:19.760 --> 03:32:22.760 That's why we love them and to apply 03:32:23.800 --> 03:32:30.720 To apply a basic set of principles in a way that is consistent can be consistently 03:32:31.400 --> 03:32:35.160 remembered and Uplied and accounted for 03:32:35.800 --> 03:32:41.960 And by by saying things publicly I create a system where that accountability is inherent 03:32:42.120 --> 03:32:47.960 Because once you say something publicly you are in my humble opinion bound to it 03:32:48.360 --> 03:32:54.240 So a lot of the time I share this internal information that ends up biting me in the butt 03:32:54.680 --> 03:32:58.920 Because in a certain sense I kind of want it to if 03:32:59.600 --> 03:33:04.680 If I ever changed my story in the future if that kind of makes sense 03:33:05.160 --> 03:33:11.000 There are ways that it has bit me in the butt that I haven't wanted it to like when people make assumptions like that 03:33:11.000 --> 03:33:19.880 I you know did lie or Something when actually I just like told you guys what it was and I don't know you drew your own conclusions because you got like mental 03:33:19.880 --> 03:33:25.480 Problems or something I thought you were just collecting aspect marks like trophies or achievements or something 03:33:26.240 --> 03:33:29.720 They match the tattoo and like I 03:33:32.400 --> 03:33:34.400 My tattoo is just 03:33:35.560 --> 03:33:37.560 My other tattoo is 03:33:41.040 --> 03:33:48.960 Sometimes I can be logical to a fault but also highly emotional if that makes sense and so that 03:33:49.200 --> 03:33:52.240 Logicalness in terms of my course of action 03:33:53.320 --> 03:33:56.480 I think 03:33:56.520 --> 03:34:02.240 Both the logical and emotional side of me think that if I behave in a way that is 03:34:02.520 --> 03:34:08.080 Logical that that should make sense to other people and that they should more clearly be able to assess 03:34:08.560 --> 03:34:14.600 My motivations and predict my future actions. So, you know to me for something like the trust me bro warranty 03:34:14.600 --> 03:34:21.400 Let's look at that The logical case that I laid out pretty clearly is that if I ever fucked it up. I 03:34:22.080 --> 03:34:27.720 would get put up on a stake, right and then and then 03:34:28.280 --> 03:34:31.480 Spit roasted over a fire, right because I'm a public figure 03:34:31.560 --> 03:34:38.040 So if I were to you know go around screwing people over on the warranty coverage of their products 03:34:38.560 --> 03:34:44.240 They would it would make the loudest possible noise and be the juiciest possible gossip and so to me 03:34:44.920 --> 03:34:51.480 That made the logical part the logical part of my brain went so this should be pretty obvious that I as not an idiot 03:34:52.000 --> 03:34:55.600 Would not screw this up because it would basically be the end of my career 03:34:57.560 --> 03:35:07.920 But then like I Don't know I guess the I guess some part of me missed the part where other people just like do stuff anyway that they shouldn't and don't seem 03:35:07.920 --> 03:35:11.640 To face consequences and people have lived through that over and over and over again 03:35:11.640 --> 03:35:15.480 so there so that trust is eroded on a broader scale which has nothing to do with me and 03:35:15.960 --> 03:35:23.080 You know that's something that like doesn't easily compute for me 03:35:23.800 --> 03:35:28.280 It's something that I struggled with it also 03:35:32.400 --> 03:35:35.040 Emotionally is really frustrating right because 03:35:36.080 --> 03:35:41.280 You know to me something can be kind of black and white. It's like yeah No, obviously we wouldn't do that because that would be really dumb 03:35:42.080 --> 03:35:45.560 But some people legitimately seem to think that I'm actually very dumb 03:35:45.560 --> 03:35:49.800 And so they will tend to assume like the dumbest possible course of action even though I 03:35:51.800 --> 03:35:57.000 Don't really think I've you know given any reason I don't think that's necessarily fair. Oh, there's definitely some 03:35:57.720 --> 03:36:01.640 Yes, okay. Yes, sure, but I don't think as a whole that's necessarily fair 03:36:01.640 --> 03:36:07.520 No, I bet you with a lot of people they're going with the route that we've told them to do whether they've seen that or not 03:36:07.560 --> 03:36:12.640 I don't know, but it's the don't trust companies thing. I think sometimes you overestimate how many people 03:36:14.080 --> 03:36:18.840 Watch enough. Oh sure like they know you and there's also cultural differences 03:36:18.920 --> 03:36:27.080 Like one of the one of the big things that I saw with the whole warranty thing was places where they have strong consumer protection laws and strong 03:36:28.360 --> 03:36:35.800 Mechanisms to hold companies accountable for their warranty policies right here. We don't have that. Yeah, I know you literally have to like 03:36:35.800 --> 03:36:41.440 Take the company to court. Yeah at a great deal of personal time and expense 03:36:41.880 --> 03:36:47.600 You won't it pretty much boils down to the company's willingness to do anything for you 03:36:48.320 --> 03:36:57.600 But there are parts of the world where That is different and some of those people were legitimately very upset in like a like a personal value 03:36:58.120 --> 03:37:01.400 Way that that I would see it any way other than that 03:37:02.000 --> 03:37:12.080 Okay, you know, that's fair enough, right and you know, obviously we went in we like created a policy before we actually ever sold a backpack 03:37:12.080 --> 03:37:17.320 But you know for some reason like that's still, you know a huge problem 03:37:17.320 --> 03:37:24.600 Even though the conversation people on that the poorly the poorly worded explanation that I gave for why we didn't have a policy yet 03:37:24.600 --> 03:37:27.540 Which by the way was still before we ever sold a backpack 03:37:27.660 --> 03:37:31.500 That's that part is very often forgotten very often forgotten 03:37:32.700 --> 03:37:38.460 That was the truth and that transparency bit me in the butt big time because I didn't do a good job of explaining it 03:37:38.460 --> 03:37:41.900 And wasn't well packaged. No, it was extremely poorly packaged and 03:37:45.420 --> 03:37:53.900 I'm gonna keep doing it In conclusion, which is based we have we have an interview coming up on Floatplane 03:37:54.620 --> 03:38:01.980 Checking in on Teran's first two years. So that's Sammy sat down with me and Teran and asked us some questions and 03:38:03.580 --> 03:38:07.420 We are unflinching in our responses and 03:38:08.740 --> 03:38:11.460 You know, we touch on some potentially even 03:38:12.260 --> 03:38:14.260 challenging and uncomfortable subjects 03:38:15.460 --> 03:38:18.500 And I think it's gonna be really great for the community even if it you know 03:38:18.540 --> 03:38:24.660 Airs our internal laundry a little bit more than most companies would but I think that's part of what makes us really special 03:38:24.660 --> 03:38:27.620 I feel like the watch rate percentage for that video of 03:38:28.460 --> 03:38:32.860 Internal employees. Oh, well the amount of people that watch that with the Linus account alone. Oh 03:38:34.300 --> 03:38:40.180 Yeah, that's gonna be nuts. I'll watch it. It genuinely sounds really interesting. I 03:38:42.420 --> 03:38:46.420 Ask him why he hasn't moved here yet Hmm 03:38:46.660 --> 03:38:49.700 Well, I don't really ask him so much as I point it pointed out 03:38:52.740 --> 03:38:58.420 Because Tim Hortons is bad. I don't yeah, I don't blame him. We need to fix it. It has to be fixed 03:38:58.420 --> 03:39:02.380 I know it has to be fixed. I can't afford to buy it. We can't afford to buy it. You could buy it 03:39:02.380 --> 03:39:07.340 It's worth billions of dollars start a new one. Just take on alone. You literally know how much money I have 03:39:09.140 --> 03:39:13.580 What are you even talking about? What if he made what if he made 03:39:14.420 --> 03:39:20.580 Linus Sebastian's It's a terrible name for a restaurant. Really is a terrible name 03:39:22.100 --> 03:39:25.620 No, he's got time for Linus Sebastian's 03:39:26.260 --> 03:39:32.740 That's not the worst it jingles fairly well. Yeah, that's a Tim Hortons jingle. I know. Oh, okay. Yeah 03:39:35.540 --> 03:39:42.220 All right, let's carry on Sebastian's has you when he sebs we've got that's a that's a scary 03:39:42.220 --> 03:39:47.580 Sebastian's is not that bad. Sebastian's has you. Yeah, they have you bro creepy 03:39:48.980 --> 03:39:51.220 Trust them trust us 03:39:53.060 --> 03:40:00.660 It's fresh Minus and loose is not bad actually. Hey, I like it LL's coffee bar. Yeah. Oh 03:40:01.700 --> 03:40:05.700 We could have like a we could have like a chilled juice bar. We could call it LL Cool J's 03:40:12.420 --> 03:40:19.020 Oh Okay, got a couple more for you here. Yo buying a backpack for my GF 03:40:19.380 --> 03:40:25.700 Are there any of the fun colors for the screwdriver knock to a retro coming back also Luke as a gym rat 03:40:25.700 --> 03:40:27.700 What's your favorite lift in PR? Oh? 03:40:29.260 --> 03:40:31.980 I don't PR because I'm old and broken so I 03:40:32.580 --> 03:40:39.700 You do it a special PR my five. Yeah, I do my I do minimum sets of five my my best for that's to 25 bench probably 03:40:39.700 --> 03:40:45.140 but uh, no That's the one I'm most proud of like grinding out 03:40:45.140 --> 03:40:51.020 But probably my relative best was like a long time ago and I haven't pushed it in a in a minute 03:40:51.020 --> 03:40:59.580 But there was a there's a point in time that for work reasons I had a lot of pent up feels and my dad was also there and that pushes me to try really hard and 03:41:00.860 --> 03:41:02.980 Not that far into my fitness journey. I hit 03:41:03.940 --> 03:41:08.260 335 squat for five or six and the bar was bouncing 03:41:08.260 --> 03:41:13.740 I scared one of the ladies in the gym because I work at a community gym and not a big lifter gym big lifter gym 03:41:13.740 --> 03:41:18.180 Nobody would care at all But she was like the bars gonna break and I was like, no, it's fine 03:41:18.820 --> 03:41:25.140 But that was a very cool moment. Um, that has to feel really good. It was amazing. I wish you could frame moments 03:41:25.140 --> 03:41:31.020 It was fantastic It's so ego boosting and then I had to remember that like 03:41:32.500 --> 03:41:34.500 It's not like an incredible amount, but anyways 03:41:35.540 --> 03:41:42.100 my favorite one's probably I think they're called eccentric accentuated skull crushers. I'm sure you remember those 03:41:42.100 --> 03:41:47.100 Oh, those are still my favorite After I figured out after I figured out the muscle brain to do them 03:41:48.940 --> 03:41:52.620 But you you lay flat down on a bench you take a fixed bar 03:41:52.620 --> 03:41:57.420 I've done it with barbells now because those the fixed bars are too. Yeah, look at too strong 03:41:57.420 --> 03:42:00.020 I need the weenie hut junior bars 03:42:00.780 --> 03:42:07.500 But you you go ARM straight up and then slightly back so that your your return position or your resting position 03:42:07.540 --> 03:42:11.820 It's still loaded and then you have to come down for three seconds 03:42:12.100 --> 03:42:16.900 To behind your head is generally where I go and then fire up and you have to do that for 12 times 03:42:17.540 --> 03:42:19.860 And it feels great your triceps just 03:42:21.340 --> 03:42:28.820 After you figure out that the motion is throwing the bar over you. Yeah, it feels so it feels so good 03:42:28.820 --> 03:42:33.060 It feels very functional weird. It's great. Try it. It's very good 03:42:33.500 --> 03:42:36.540 Let's have an ends justify the means conversation real quick 03:42:36.540 --> 03:42:39.060 Okay, Denoli 444 says 03:42:40.180 --> 03:42:45.940 By Tim Hortons just rip us off with a meme coin and use that to finance it 03:42:46.100 --> 03:42:53.420 It's 2025 make Canada great again. Would that justify a rug pole if we bought Tim Hortons back for Canada 03:42:53.420 --> 03:42:57.820 The purpose of the rug pole is by is buying Tim Hortons. We're gonna not coin 03:42:57.820 --> 03:43:03.340 We did for the screwdriver what we're gonna do for Canada's fast food. It's gonna be the best 03:43:04.340 --> 03:43:08.460 It'll be a nine point. We're gonna be a nine point to this donut 03:43:11.980 --> 03:43:13.980 With the flesh driver 03:43:16.980 --> 03:43:22.900 They'll actually make the doughnuts in store again All right, sorry as for the as for the other fun colors of the screwdriver 03:43:22.900 --> 03:43:29.020 My goal in the long term is that you can configure your screwdriver like Xbox controllers and 03:43:29.620 --> 03:43:36.540 Get any color combination you want, but we are really far away from that right now and any movement that we make towards 03:43:37.420 --> 03:43:46.260 diversifying our Distribution centers to make it easier to address other parts of the world if it gets more challenging to sell into the US is 03:43:46.260 --> 03:43:52.020 Gonna set back projects like that because there'd have to be a whole setup and you'd have to have inventory of all these different colors 03:43:52.020 --> 03:43:56.300 And stuff be a real challenge Okay, last one I've got for you tonight 03:43:56.300 --> 03:44:01.140 I have a question for one and a half of the Lafaynier boys just one half 03:44:01.140 --> 03:44:07.780 Oh for one half of the Lafaynier boys or my eyes are going now our I'm not one of them 03:44:07.900 --> 03:44:15.300 Our company's dev teams don't have access to prod and are forced to do everything in testing environments 03:44:15.300 --> 03:44:22.140 Is this normal in the dev world to pee again? It kind of depends on your company. So you curate this one. No wait. Yes 03:44:22.580 --> 03:44:26.100 Okay, I forgot. I didn't think I did but I know I think that's okay 03:44:27.220 --> 03:44:32.980 No, it's so like at our comp. Yeah, it most companies. No most companies you'll have a 03:44:34.260 --> 03:44:39.820 Select group of people that have access to it and updates have to go through them. It is not very 03:44:40.380 --> 03:44:48.100 Super normal, especially at at sizable teams or non startups or teams that are actually properly in production for just everybody be able to 03:44:48.380 --> 03:44:52.980 Directly access prod and I don't think you should take that as an insult 03:44:52.980 --> 03:44:56.900 I think you should take that as like a hooray. I don't have this 03:44:57.820 --> 03:44:59.820 soul-crushing level of responsibility 03:45:01.220 --> 03:45:06.220 Of security it took me like what it may be a year and a half 03:45:06.340 --> 03:45:14.820 Maybe more before I was able to access the like wancho prod stuff that I do before the show because that's not a horrific amount of responsibility 03:45:15.500 --> 03:45:19.580 Yeah Yeah, and it's and it's not it's not for me to just make an oops 03:45:19.580 --> 03:45:24.700 I think Dan is gonna screw up so he can't access the thing the biggest part of it is actually like oh 03:45:25.340 --> 03:45:29.460 One of Dan's account gets compromised or if I just make a mistake 03:45:29.460 --> 03:45:37.620 Oh that yeah, you know people to just accidentally miss it some rigor behind your your understanding of the process and how things work 03:45:37.620 --> 03:45:40.860 Because that's a touchy the same to touchy dashboard 03:45:41.260 --> 03:45:44.780 And there's really no confirmation 03:45:45.660 --> 03:45:48.740 It's really not a lot stopping you from making pretty big mistakes 03:45:50.260 --> 03:45:56.300 So it yeah, I don't know it's no I wouldn't say it's super normal unless you have a very small team 03:45:56.980 --> 03:45:59.740 And like you know some of my teams are in that range 03:46:00.300 --> 03:46:05.660 So some of my teams basically everyone can touch broad, but they're still usually process involved 03:46:06.340 --> 03:46:09.180 To make sure that there's visibility on it stuff like that 03:46:10.180 --> 03:46:13.460 But I don't think the goal should be for everyone to be able to touch prod 03:46:13.860 --> 03:46:17.540 I know There was one conversation 03:46:17.540 --> 03:46:22.380 I was near at one point in time where two people had a certain company were bickering back and forth and the one of 03:46:22.380 --> 03:46:29.740 What one of them used there? I'm able to push things to prod as like as a as a as a card to play against the other and that felt icky 03:46:29.740 --> 03:46:35.380 But I do still think it's generally a better idea to have these updates filter through a smaller group of people 03:46:35.420 --> 03:46:41.100 So that pushes to prod can be controlled should also be a cultural thing where you don't want to have access to prod 03:46:41.180 --> 03:46:45.620 Yeah, because then there's a pressure. Yeah, you know liability. Yeah, yes 03:46:46.460 --> 03:46:52.540 And that be that liability and managing that liability ends up being a significant part of those people's jobs 03:46:52.860 --> 03:46:58.660 Because now they're like reviewing everything that's going up and making sure it's good and blah blah blah blah blah and that's that's like what they do now 03:46:59.180 --> 03:47:03.220 and if you just want to build things 03:47:04.140 --> 03:47:08.700 It might not be the best way to do that Anyways, I think we're good 03:47:09.100 --> 03:47:15.580 See you again next week Same bedtime same bad channel. I can't even press it. Mine is this button. You gotta 03:47:17.140 --> 03:47:19.140 Bye 03:47:33.220 --> 03:47:35.220 I 03:47:48.260 --> 03:47:50.260 Did 13 miles