My computer like now stream going live now. I need stuff now. Yeah, that's yeah, I get it because they're scared of incoming prices
Yep
Dah 58 teen says just start the damn show. I mean we would have loved to yeah
My plan was to go home at a reasonable time today trust me. I'm interested in starting the show
It just hasn't quite worked out that way and now I have to go to the washroom nice. Yeah, turn the bucket
What do I look like to you a bird
Got some old newspaper some old I mean now you got my attention
If you can even find news because I have the funnies on it
Yeah, how'd we've kept your old car together?
Oh, did we get a new shock mount because that one that I had when we did the firetruck stream was terrible
It's a different type of shock now. No, these ones are specific for these mics and the other one was a knot
And because you you grabbed the mic and moved it around. I think it just ripped the I barely touched it
It like yeah, yeah, you I think you saw it. I did
This is that's the specific re20. Yeah shock mount. Yeah, I only have one
I can't believe we have not started the show yet
Yeah about an hour
I'm just gonna global mute You
Mikes are back live
Are you okay, sir? No, why?
Yeah, well
I'm sorry that
I don't know there's so many things there's so many things to do. Well, that's what time it is
I'm going to try to talk again, I guess cool. It's not working on YouTube what?
Huh, no
Really really what it's not working on YouTube. I'm stunned outstanding. I'm appalled
We're gonna have to call John YouTube and explain no don't say his name
I Call him gonna come in here like the Kool-Aid man
Sammy get off the lioness account. What are you doing?
Lots on oblivion remaster leaks. I think they're big freaking jerks
That's what I think and I'm not buying it
No, Dan you have to buy it not yeah
Yes, why do they just make a new game? I
Don't know if I want them to Concerned as well. Maybe just leave it
Maybe just close the whole studio. I don't know wasn't there like another team of mod people who are like gonna make one
Yeah, that's why I'm not buying it. That's why I'm mad Why don't you just play like the new re-release of Skyrim or something? I don't know
Stop you broken the law the the mod team doing the oblivion thing looks amazing. That looks incredible
Yeah, it looks like they actually cared. Yeah, they do. Yeah, sure. Yeah, and then Bethesda was like get sued into oblivion
Oh, I didn't mean to make that one. I'm sorry. It's pretty good. I didn't pick up on it
I didn't know it was not intentional really good. So I'm not giving myself a ding for that because the like best one probably of the night
Didn't even go noticed
Oh, I'm gonna get something to snack you deserve it. You earned it
By the way, I finally watched your smash champs video hilarious
Yeah
Very funny
Because I made the Sisyphus joke and then Sammy clapped back immediately with
Another joke based on that and it was just went straight over my head like that man is so smart
I think he said one must imagine Dan happy. Yeah, yeah straight over my head. Yeah, absolutely genius
I thought that was really funny. So cool That was pretty great
Yeah, there's a lot of zingers in there, dude, it was it was a very fun
It's I'm not used to working with like
He's not really video guy
It was great, dude, you just trying to climb into the bucket that said it was only for Jim Dowell's
Man, I enjoyed the whole thing. It was great
That's perfect
All right
How's it going chat They always pre-show on twitch. Yeah, technically
We don't normally read your chat though. We only really care about the
People call them floaters. I thought it was cooler when we called them pilots
But they seem to have embraced the name floaters more
seems weird
Oh You see they're making a new runescape. Do you mean the game that released?
There you're talking about
Did you go to the Johnson Space Center with Linus? No, we went to Houston
Game stop is bringing back midnight release for the switch to
Sick See that's cool, but I'm not gonna do it. I think which sucks, but I got to stand on my gotta stand on my principles
I'm buying it from willow
If you live in the
Lower mainland you should go to willow video in Langley
You should go there those guys been around forever. They're great so long dude, and they are great
Have you ever looked at first robotics? Yeah, of course
You know full well when switch to releases it'll be in your hands. No it won't unless willow sells it. What's up, Sammy?
What's up, dawg? What a big dawg cuz we're very competent
Reven tech and delicious. I've made when late. I don't it wasn't you. I don't think wait man
It's what are you talking about damn tries to take blame for things sometimes when it's not his fault
There's only three people here. You guys didn't do anything. How is it only us?
Cardboard with desiccated sugar berries. I'm good. Thank you. Bye, Sammy
It is funnier when Dan takes the limb I agree are we ready? I think so
Yeah, it looks like it's nice and stable now, and then I perf has passed master. Yeah, so AJ just now
What the heck did he message you oh
Yes, he did my phone just gave me a notification five minutes late because I hate modern technology, but
AJ's just sent me essentially the same thing I was planning on saying which is I think that's the best we can do for now
Properly diving into this will take more time in the future, but this is what we got for now
We have some we'll send it root cause but yeah, we've got a band-aid. Yeah
You want to finish your
Whatever you called it, which was good, but I can't remember desiccated cardboard with with dried dried berries berries or something
And maybe almond slices
Nice do you like them no
Desperate yep
There's a high priority notification mode you can use yep, I do
I Still doesn't work. I've had teams give me a notification that was over a year old before
Happens my phone barely
Consistently uses the alarms properly
Why why do I why do I bother I?
Don't ever set one alarm for anything anymore. Oh, yeah, I got like eight. Yeah, I have that issue. I
Don't sleep through alarms anymore. That's nice. I don't know when that decided to end but very happy that it did
Very naughty him before yes, yeah
Yeah
No, it's American sign language. That's why it costs so much to use it. I can only use three signs
All right, let's do this thing
By twitch
All right, oh, I guess I'll just do the thing
Shoot I did actually sign into the thing Nice. Oh, did we figure out what was the right?
Like way to go live in terms of like the delay. I
Don't think so
Think teams is bad my company's using Cisco WebEx. Yeah, that's rough. I feel sorry for you on that one
Why I do like the new teams update actually that might be controversial
Have you tried it I like that it's higher density or you just heard that a lot lately
I just like the compact view. I um, yeah I swapped it over as well and then I separated them. I don't like the channels being included in the DMs
No, yeah, I've of course, but it's a little more compact. Yeah, you got to do that
I'm still upset that in v2. They remove the ability to get direct links to individual chats
Which means that I can't make bots very well anymore
Can't just copy and paste the link to the chat. It's all like in line
Must be using some Magical technology like a modern web tech or something
Okay, should we do this thing sure um, all right close that
Republishing
I'm resuming the selected I guess I'll just pick a random time to start talking neat
Yeah, well, that's what I did last week
What's up, everybody welcome to the Wancho we got a great show lined up for you this week
We'll be talking about a company that is under fire for
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Alright, let's jump right into our headline topic this week a name
I have not spoken the name of in quite some time
Synology Hexos NAS operating system disclosure
So I recently invested in the creation of a user-friendly NAS software that
You can just install on your own hardware without being locked into someone's hardware ecosystem
That's gonna be relevant in a moment. First. Let's talk about what happened a couple of days ago
Synologies plus series of NAS systems
No longer allowed the use of non-synology or non
Certified drives to get the full set of features on their NAS
Instead hard drives. Yeah, instead customers will be required to buy the company's branded hard drives
Which by the way, if you've ever
Yeah, if you know anything about company branded hard drives like HP hard drives
HP doesn't make hard drives at all And so typically these these vendor locked hard drives are just normal hard drives
but with a custom firmware on them and a sticker that
Locks them so that you have to pay to you have to buy them directly from the vendor
Users that choose to use non-certified drives
They'll still work and they'll still be able to store data, but apparently they will lose the following
showing estimated drive health reports
volume-wide deduplication lifespan analysis
automatic firmware updates and more
2024 and older models of Synologies plus series will apparently not be affected by this change, but new devices will have this feature
Enabled there apparently is already a workaround if you set up your unsupported drives in an older
Synology NAS Then migrate them over they will not be locked out of those features
according to Tom's hardware, which
Proves that this is absolutely not a hardware feature and is 100% a software lock
Yeah, that's garbage. Yeah, that is that is absolute trash garbage
And yeah, I think that's I think that's pretty I think that's pretty poopy in
In general, I've not been like a huge fan of Synology NAS
I don't know if you remember this, but one of the early things that I was super into do you remember Windows home server?
Yeah, yeah, okay. I was super into Windows home server. Yeah, I
Loved it. It was easy to manage with a full graphical UI
It had a brain-dead simple interface for backing up all the systems on your local network
The the issue with Windows home server aside from Microsoft abandoning it was that Windows doesn't really have a great
Software raid. Yeah, and Microsoft just never saw fit to build it
My understanding is that storage spaces at a certain level if you are enough of a wizard administrator
might be kind of usable for something but I
Have never personally had that experience with it and
apparently neither have a lot of people but
Windows home server was super cool and one of the things that I liked about it was that it gave you all of the benefits of
You know one of these little NAS boxes that you could then buy from companies like Synology like QNAP or whoever else
But you weren't Locked to that hardware you could plug in as many drives as you wanted you could put an HBA in and just
Expand it you could add more RAM you could put in a faster CPU
You could have it do you could have it do anything you wanted depending on
How much performance you needed or how much storage you needed and and that's one of the things that always kind of bothered me
About these lockdown NASs to be clear. I understand why people buy them and I understand why people like them
They're pretty much ready to go out of the box and we have done videos on them in the past where I've said
Yep, this seems pretty reasonable but a lot of the time they're not that reasonable and it's
It appears to me to be fully intentional where they will you know
Not put an m.2 slot on that one
Or they will not have a PCIe slot to make sure that you can't have 10 gig networking on that one
That would otherwise totally work as a video editing NAS. Yeah, and so the the holy grail for me
Has always been to have the benefits of a completely custom solution
You know running some Linux distro or whatever else with you know
ZFS with whatever fancy patches and you know, you've you've got all your virtualization running on it and whatever else, right?
so having all the benefits of that plus the benefits of just easy an easy kind of interface and
You know a setup wizard and the simplicity that you get from these pre-done NAS boxes because right now you either
Have to learn a whole bunch of stuff that can be fun for some people and that's great if you're into that
That's awesome, and I think that's super cool
But not everybody's into that or you have to pay a lot of money for devices that appear to be
Planned obsolescence incarnate
very very intentionally and You know this is something that has been very apparent to me about Synology's model for many many years and now they've been
They're basically saying the quiet part out loud. Yeah by switching to this
vendor certified vendor locked down hard drive model and
Hexos disclosure. I already did okay. Yeah, and that and I was getting to that is
Exactly why I invested in hexos because I think you should be able to install something that is as simple to use as Synology
So it has that out-of-box experience and app support and ease of use factor while also having the performance and the
flexibility of a DIY NAS solution and I think they've kind of nailed it because they're gonna have a subscription model for the software
But they will also have a more expensive
One-time purchase model and then you just have it forever and you can just have whatever hardware you want in your hexo s
NAS now just because you have the license forever doesn't mean they will have no subscriptions like they might introduce their own cloud service or whatever
Yeah, for sure that something wires
Constant effort or expense on their end. So it has to be tied with a subscription. Yeah, but but in terms of the base software itself
Once you own it forever, you will you will own it forever. They're apparently doing great by the way. I am like
Kind of blown away. What's like user feedback?
People have been really understanding the community not just the user community, but the developer community has rallied
Hard around hexo s because they're just like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Like this is common sense. Why do we not have this someone's finally fucking doing it?
I'm in like apparently when we talked about them for the launch they got
Just an avalanche of developer applications and I don't mean like like script kiddies who are like
I want to I want to help develop the hexo s like
They they showed me some of the portfolios work for them. I thought I thought you meant. Okay. Okay. Yeah
I thought you meant like people Creating things for the platform. No, no avalanche of applications from people who have portfolios that I was like
Oh What they could work anywhere they want? Yeah, yeah, basically or just or just not work or whatever like no like wow
Anyway, so yeah, they've got some really talented people working on it now
So let's so anyway before hexo s was even a twinkle in the eye of John and Eric and the guys over there
My kind of you know tech tips for the people
Solution to marry the DIY benefits with the ease of view software benefits was like hey
We should do a video on that that Synology
like Like hackintosh Hackology or what what's it called? What's uh?
Okay, hold on the Synology There's the what's it called? What's it called? Uh, but it but but
Exponology, Exponology I don't know if it actually still works, but it was a thing back when we did it and
There's there were some limitations, right? Like there were some challenges like it only work on certain hardware
there were some like weird hacky workarounds and from my point of view
It absolutely was not a complete replacement for for Synology and to be clear
I didn't expect Synology to be like stoked that this was something we were making a video about but
We actually got as far as shooting the entire video and the actual conclusion of it was like
Yeah, if you want the best possible experience, you got to buy the hardware key for the for the lock here
But this is if you are you know kind of willing to deal with some some challenges
You adapt this thing you might already have then you could then you can install this on hardware that you already have and it like
Kind of mostly works and I think it would have actually sold
A lot of Synology NASs because most people wouldn't have been willing to go through this work, but we ultimately
never released that video because
They came after us Incredibly hard. How did they know you're even making it? I do not remember to be perfectly honest with you
but we basically said hey, yeah, we
Don't agree that us making a video about a thing that is common knowledge
Breaks any kind of agreement we would have with you of any sort and I don't think it does no it really doesn't but
And I wanted to just publish the video To be to be you know full cards on the table here. I just wanted to say f*** it and just publish the video
but we had Other voices internally who felt very strongly that at a somewhat vulnerable time
For our company we did not have strong cash reserves. We were not equipped to like fight go to war. Yeah, and that's what they
Unfortunately, and you know, I am making some guests about when it might have been and that might have been the right call at the time
But unfortunately, that's what they want. Yes, that's exactly what they want these companies use this as a as a tool
They don't actually want to end up in court with you
so the so the The compromise that we reached was that
Synology would be dead to us at that point. Um, and there have been a couple exceptions to that. I think someone's
Tech upgrade at some point included a Synology NAS and I basically went well, this seems like a bit of an exception
I'm not talking about it. Yeah, and I'm not going to limit people's options for tech upgrades to like
Brands that I you know get along with or whatever. Sure, right? Um
but other than that I
I won't work with them I won't like I I'd need I'd need an apology before I would even
Talk to them essentially, um, which has happened with brands before. Well, yeah, of course because
Usually what it comes down to is that, you know, someone who works there has a chip on their shoulder or whatever
And that individual eventually moves on and you know, the reality of it is that we're probably going to outlast most
Individuals in the particular role that they're in and so we can just play the waiting game
I mean, that's what happened with envidia. Yeah envidia the the entity didn't like, you know, want to mend fences
A couple particular people who were ass hurt
um Move done And so we'll we'll work with them and
I want to make it very clear You know that is in spite of the fact that we are going to continue to cover them in a way that is fair and balanced and call them out
When they when they do things that are wrong. Have you talked to them since maybe we shouldn't talk about this on the show?
Have you talked to them since that video went up? No I mean, why would I there's nothing else to say? I already said everything I have to say. What are they going to say?
Knowing this current crew
I don't think that would make them run which is cool. I don't think so. I think that's cool genuinely cool
I think that this because that's the thing right is like
I respect that actually a lot That doesn't mean that you know, they're that they have ignored it
They haven't heard what we've said. It just means that they're looking for a path forward and they're not going to let this
Poison everything else that we could possibly work together on sounds good. Um
And you know, I can understand that being a tough thing to be clear, but like
That's the that's the you can't um
You can't let relationships influence
Uh Reviewing well, no, I mean that's that's the same what you gotta do
It's the same reason that we will you know continue to cover apple even though they have never seated us a device or given us
Even a briefing or answered a question Um, but we'll continue to cover them and I can absolutely not like their arrogance that they think that because they don't have an aligned worldview
They don't need to answer your questions or engage with you. Mm-hmm
That's totally valid But if they make a good product like, you know airpods pro to I absolutely love mine
And I say nothing but good things about all the good things about them
Then you just you have to separate that you have to separate sort of the corporate culture
From the individuals who work there from the product those those things can all be
Have they can all be very different and all of those differences can be very valid
Uh, but you can't let them bleed into each other as best you can as best you can at least
um So long story short
Synology, um, hopefully you can go f*** yourself in the longer term
Because it will be as simple as just picking up not overpriced hardware and installing
uh investment disclosure hexos on it and I will never have to say your name again and uh, good luck with that
And especially because you guys think it's cool to vendor lock hard drives on consumer systems, which
On an enterprise system, I can at least
kind of see it like if you have some
like I don't know disc disc shelf like giant, you know
uh Like rack based san system or something like that and the vendors basically like look we've only validated this
particular firmware revision and and this these particular models and if you put something else in it
Look your warranty is valid because that's all invalid because that's all that we validated
I think there's at least an argument to be made there because
The operation of that device that entire device
Is covered by the service agreement that that vendor has with you. It's a totally different scenario
So it is actually their problem if something goes wrong with it
Totally get it For a consumer who's backing up their photos to a freaking hard drive. No, I'm afraid I don't get that
I don't actually think that that's okay um
All right, what what what what what what what what do we what else do you want to talk about this week mr. Loop?
We only had one Main news topic. Should we talk about that one? We have more than one
Pretty sure we have one They're kind of connected. They are not connected. They're a little bit connected. They're not connected at all
It's not all bad. Yeah, is that not connected to the story above it being bad? No. Oh
I There's just totally
You pick whichever one you like mr. Luke. Let's do let's do the 50 61
Let's do it. So, um, this is now the
Fifth there were sixth big GPU launch since you took over the lab
There's been six so far in this quarter. So I think that's correct. Yeah
And how did you feel it went? Let's talk let's talk about let's talk about sort of our process for evaluating product
So I want two answers One is how do you think the kind of that because we did test the car
We uploaded a ShortCircuit video looking at the 50 60 ti 16 gig. Are we talking about the how'd your team do?
Oh, great. Yeah, I'm actually I'm very happy with the lab. I um
It's been a It's been a weird journey. It's like I I've never I've I've
I have a quite a few teams at this point. I've never
taken over a team though Every team that I've had like everyone on all of my teams
Other than the lab I hired them. Yeah, all of them. So like this was a very new experience
um And there were some things that like I tripped on at the start because I'm just very not used to this my first time doing that
all that kind of stuff getting used to New people getting used to new processes the lab does a lot of stuff
Getting used to that trying to figure out like what the heck is even going on with different parts of it
Um, I don't know if you remember but there was a thing that I completely shut down
Which was like literally most of the work that they did within the first week of joining. Yeah
Sure. Yeah, I um I I stepped in and one of the first things I did was I said that
I said that I would have a meeting with every single person in the department
A one-on-one with every single person in the department before I made any drastic decisions
And then I got two one-on-ones in
paused all of the remaining one-on-ones and did an extremely dramatic decision
Which I don't think that was one of the trips actually. I think that was the right move
And that was I figured out uh, like what percentage of time people were spending on different things
And it was coming out from like almost everyone A huge percentage of it was ShortCircuit. Yeah, and ShortCircuit is cool
But i'm looking at that ShortCircuit the cost and size of the lab
And if you try to look at the the holistic cost of both the the equipment the space
Uh, the salaries all that type of stuff and then you apply the percentage of that lab's time
That was being spent on ShortCircuit and the math just is really not math in here
Um bad mathing. So I was like, whoa, let's um
Let's pause this if we can Which is to say that we're not going to do lab's testing on ShortCircuit
We obviously just did we're already doing we did like 30 of them over the last quarter or something
But we had a lot of workflow things to figure out. Yeah to smooth out that process
Before we could do it and we're we're still working on those things like we're hiring testers right now
We're in the I wouldn't I don't know if the post is still up
If you're applying now, I mean, there's a chance, but it's probably too late
But we're interviewing testers right now We're hiring three
We just brought on way over do testing coordinator. Nice, which is going to be really nice as well
Yep So that person's job is going to be you know to keep the tests flowing one one thing
I said the the beginning what I want them working on is mostly communication
Make sure people outside our department know what's going on make sure people inside our department
Know what they're supposed to be doing know what's going on make sure that things are flowing properly all that kind of stuff
In the longer run something that I want them working on is optimizing
um like station efficiency and what I kind of mean by that is
Um say we have some GPU embargo. Yeah, it doesn't mean that every other station should stay cold
That's one of the ideas of having more testers as well Is even if the majority of the testers are all focused on one like crazy project
There should still be enough extra testers that we can keep the other stations kind of moving and keep things pumping through the lab
Um, but yeah, I I was like, okay, we're spending all this time doing this
There's no free time to work on processors. No free time to do all this kind of stuff
Let's pause for like two three months and really try to hammer this stuff out
We rewrote a ton of process We redid a ton of different things and kind of got a better look of what we wanted in the future
When I first started with the department, I was looking sometimes hours forward
And then now at this point, I'm looking months year plus forward. Um, and there's some there's some cool plans
Okay, now this was a good Oh, the the six GPUs was a fantastic push now. Let's talk about how things went
Uh with the 50 60 50 60 ti from like an an overall execution
outside of lab's standpoint
You know what here, why don't I read through the notes on april 16th NVIDIA
launched the 50 60 family which included the rtx 50 60 with eight gigs of RAM the rtx 50 60 ti
with eight gigs of RAM and The rtx 50 60 ti with 16 gigs of RAM
Even though these cards are out Um now
Almost everywhere only lists the 50 60 ti 16 gig
The other two models are expected to You know be physically present in the real world at some point
But nobody seems to know when so we decided
Not because the lab was not capable of doing the testing as as luke already mentioned
The lab was fully capable of doing the testing In fact, they did some testing for our ShortCircuit video on the 50 60 ti 16 gig, uh, but we decided
That because we didn't feel that this Situation was very consumer first that we were not going to do a review
But instead did a rant style video about how this entire
Launch felt not just the 60 class cards, but the 50 series in general
From the perspective, uh from several perspectives from an NVIDIA partner perspective. We included a little bit of that
From a press perspective and especially from a consumer perspective one thing that we did not really
Include in the video because I couldn't say this factually for certain
But one thing that we didn't include in the video is that my personal theory for why they rolled it out this way
Is that they want customer confusion?
I think that they want A heap of reviews on the the 50 60 ti
16 gig Right and because this is the first member of the family that anyone can get their hands on
And they want those ones for you on the remaining to to be at the top of the search results
and then I believe that NVIDIA had no intention whatsoever
Of ceding the other cards in any kind of timely manner or maybe at all
Basically just leaving it to their board partners or leaving it to media outlets to go and source them on their own in drips and drabs
By which time there would be literally zero
Remaining excitement around the 50 60 series because even the ti 16 gig was not exactly going to light anyone's world on fire in terms of the
The the value proposition of it. That doesn't mean it's a bad card. It just means that it's not
exciting anybody And I think that the benefit for NVIDIA of this kind of confusion and of this
Of of having something with a very similar model name have all the views all of the seo
All the algorithmic weight is that people would see
An something affordable 50 60 50 60 ti 8 gig something
Sort of within their budget on the shelf and go. Oh, okay, so 50 60
Like is that good and they'd end up with a review of the 50 60 16 gig that would look better than the thing that they're actually buying
That is my theory. Is this counter to your theory from
I think four wands ago. Where are you saying that reviewers don't matter anymore?
um
I think that Because I think that there is wrong. I think that NVIDIA thinks reviewers still matter
But not enough to do this whole thing properly
Or they think that reviewers can have an influence and I think that this was an effort to actively work against it
So I think I think that is NVIDIA's intention whether it would work or not
Got it. I think they wanted the perception of the 50 60 series to be set around the performance
of the ti 16 gig And then they could deliver the lower price of the other ones and hopefully keep those things separated from each other
Do you remember another time because I don't when NVIDIA launched a card with no embargo?
Yes, uh, one of the titan cards they did it
And I I outright refused to make content about it. I was like this is completely unacceptable
And some people seem to get really confused. I went on a shadow band spree
Anyone who said that our upset was because we're just like butthurt. We didn't get a free card
Got permanently banned because that you're actually too stupid for me to listen to anything that you say ever again
The value of a free card compared to like the average
Daily expenses at this company is hilarious. It's actually trivial
Dan laughing in the background. Um, it's that's just like clearly not
The reason it matters the reason that we have review embargoes and we have
Organization around the launch is so that it benefits everybody
It's fair play and vidya has time to brief the press on their side of the story
The press has time to verify that story and form their own thoughts and opinions rather important and then
everyone goes live with their Equally equipped side of the story and the consumer gets the a balanced view
that is that can be that that can be put together with time and care and attention and
Will not be perfect launch reviews are never going to be perfect because over the
Days and weeks and months and sometimes years after our launch. We're probably still going to be learning more about the product
But at least it's a starting point and there's a huge benefit to consumers where they can go. Okay
Everyone had a fair shot at this You know whose coverage do I like the best and they have a choice and they don't have to just pick one
They can they can get a perspective from all of these different media outlets
Which we suggest they do anyways is a healthy ecosystem. Yeah
Providing a card on thursday afternoon or whatever it was. Was it wednesday afternoon or thursday afternoon?
I feel like it was thursday, but I don't remember it doesn't matter the point is providing a card
Over a weekend with a launch embargo Tuesday morning
is a Not good for consumers because it means that everyone who's trying to get these videos out for embargo is going to have less time
To validate NVIDIA's claims and b is just f***ing disrespectful
It's just completely disrespectful and the truth is it's not me
I'm not going to crunch over the weekend We have the benefit of being a large enough organization now that i'm not the one who actually sits there
and and puts the cards onto the benches and and and makes the graphs
And and puts everything on a timeline edits it
No, that's going to be my team
Utterly Yep Disrespectful And they do it. We've got passionate people, but of course we we don't want them to which is why
In part we we didn't actually do the big LTT video for this card. Yeah
Yeah, because it's just and and it's one of those things where it's like look
Look if it was a one-time thing, right? And there was like a good reason
If NVIDIA was basically like okay, no no no hold on hold on hold on hold on if NVIDIA was a way smaller company
Okay, hold on. Let me put you a hypothetical. Okay, and this product
Let's say okay. Let's say NVIDIA was more like a like a a big screen
You know big screen that make the beyond vr headset. By the way, do you have an iphone?
What uh, yeah I spent money for once and I need to do a face scan. Oh, oh you bought a big screen
I might want to as well dude. It's been so sorry to derail. It's been so long since I've bought I my I'm still writing on the vibe
And I I watched a bunch of content on the big screen beyond two and I couldn't get this thought on my head of like it's time
It's really good. It's time. It's sick. So I'm stoked. So anyway, I'm very good
Then let's say it was big screen sure in the past other than their software
They've only ever had like one hardware product Okay, yep now they've got that and it sold my understanding is like pretty deez
But like, you know pretty deez right still it's gonna be a niche product. Yeah niche product. Okay, so if big screen were to say, okay
Here's the situation. We've got like
Three cards or three cards. Sorry, excuse me. We've got like three headsets
Um The bulk shipment lands like this day. We must launch it this day
Um Otherwise we are like we are like out of cash
We actually like we have payroll that day if we don't get pre-orders in you're gonna love this thing
We are absolutely 100 the company will be gone. We are we're 100 certain you're gonna love this thing
You've got like four days. Could you ask the team to work over a weekend?
We are so confident that your independent unbiased
Unbiased review is going to validate our claims that this thing is awesome. Um that we're you know
Look, we're willing to work with people. I'll be like, okay. All right. It's not going to impact the coverage
But yeah, I'll make sure people are here on the weekend We're going to try and hit this embargo because I think you guys are doing great things
Everything that I've seen about the product seems really positive
My experience with working with you is that you've been very honest in your assessments of the quality of the product
And the way that you present it all of these things align
Yeah, let's let's get everybody in on the weekend. I'll come in on the sunday night
We'll get the film. We'll get it shot. We'll get an editor uh in an other time zone booked for like an overnight edit
Then we'll have a look at it with one of our editors in house on monday morning. Let's get this thing done, you know
No problem But that's not invidia no invidia had absolutely
No reason whatsoever
financially to To have this launch on that day
Imagine luke if you will if invidia had delayed the launch of the 5060 series for
Three weeks and given us Darn near a month to work on our review
They would have launched the card and they would have all sold out
From a financial standpoint, there is no reason whatsoever that it had to launch that day. In fact, two of the three cards
were not available at all
And my understanding is that another media
I don't want to name them not because I don't want to name them but because
You know, I'm not sure if it was them Um, you look it up
Did what? Okay, well, I heard through the grapevine. I have not verified this that someone said that
Add-in board partners were explicitly told not to seed the other cards even if they like did have samples. Oh
I can't remember who it was though. I think it was
Okay, I'm gonna say it then I'm gonna say I think it was hardware unboxed But I'm not sure but I'm not a hundred percent sure so please do not quote me on that
Anyway, the point is that NVIDIA clearly had absolutely
No, yeah, Elijah says that's right. Yeah, okay. Okay. NVIDIA clearly has no sales incentive whatsoever
Not only that but they are actively ensuring that we cannot
test these cards Well, what how can I possibly assume anything other than
bad faith Bad intentions when you are actively working to keep information about these cards out of concern. It's not like this isn't a pattern
As much as I praised them earlier for like, uh, you know, if we can criticize them in that video and they will still work with us
That's that's very heads up. That's cool. Um
That being said, this is a rather egregious pattern. I don't think that there has been
Oh, wait, Elijah says I don't know if hardware unbox said that we heard directly from board partners. Okay
Uh, hathos says that was hub though. So maybe they heard the same thing. So take that for what it is take that for what it is
I'm really not sure. Um But I at least since the 1000 series
Hub apparently said it as well. Okay. I I feel like before then but at least from the 1000 series
I haven't seen an NVIDIA launch that didn't have just like egregious
falsehoods in the announcement I've seen some
Since 1000 series. Yeah, well what? Yeah, I mean I as much as people ragged on them about it
I don't think 3090 was particularly misrepresented. They said it was 8k capable with dlss help and it was
Did they compare it to other generation that I got to look this up now? I don't remember but it was it was like very powerful compared to other generations
So there was no reason for them to to fudge it. I mean they've had 1000 series was really good, too
Yeah, that's true that Yeah, that's I don't know how much it matters. Yeah, that's probably true. Um
Overall, I think the 30 series was a pretty
Was a pretty honest launch and they seemed to be competing hard. They seemed focused
Because they had the new console generation and they seemed very focused on beating it with
laser precision And other than that. No, I actually I I do agree with you. Yeah, okay
But yeah, it's like that that I don't know it's just but let's come back
Maybe there's other reasons. Maybe it's not financial, right?
Like what are the other reasons that NVIDIA could have for
Forcing this launch on this day Um other than financial, uh, maybe uh, maybe an image reason
Maybe they promised that these cards, uh, would launch on that day
Well, then they failed that anyway because you can't buy them anyway
And you can't you can't even review them. You see, okay. So so what what other what other possible reason
Could motivate a company to Does someone internally have like a kpi that they have to launch
The cards in in this quarter. Well, there's plenty of time left in this quarter
Like what is the I'm trying to understand what reason there could possibly be to give us
Four or five days or whatever it was two of which being a weekend
To review these cards Other than just trying to hide information from consumers and out of a complete lack of respect for partners
Those are the only two reasons that I can come up with
Or just completely not f***ing caring. Okay, so there's a third reason
That's it. That's all I got. So it's really hard. Um, it's really hard for me to say anything other than
That's not okay. Um, that's that's not gonna fly
Um, and I've seen okay another another bad take but not a bannable take
Another bad take is okay. You guys just shouldn't you should never talk about NVIDIA again
You should never review an NVIDIA card. We absolutely still should they have like 80 market share in the discrete GPU space
We have to we have to review things that people are going to buy anyway so that we can make sure that
If they want to know what's going on that we can give them the what's up
Like we're not just going to outright stop reviewing their products and as I mentioned in that video
We're not even going to stop working with NVIDIA We are going to work with NVIDIA because at the end of the day they're overpriced and I think they have a terrible attitude
But the products are mostly good
Like how many of you have an NVIDIA GPU that you're really happy with I bet a lot of you do
All right, then so we're gonna happy with mine. So we're gonna have to we're gonna have to work with these guys
We're gonna have to work with these guys But it's that doesn't mean that just because we're gonna work with them that we're not going to call them out when they do something
That's unacceptable
All right, what else was there in here there's some silver line. Oh, yes, okay
So we decided not to post a review so we still have unboxings
And we will do those for the other cards once they land
You can also head to lttlabs.com We'll have a full list of benchmarks for these cards once they are ready
Any big updates on the Labs website lately or not really?
Not since the ones that we posted last I think psu circuits been doing great. Yeah channels been getting more views and stuff
That's that's pretty cool
Yeah, okay, so yeah, there's definitely there's some new articles and stuff
We've got a review of the rm 1000 x up there
We're planning an article right now based on that email that lucas sent you
Which is a thing that we've been talking about doing for a while
Which is we want to take the whole build-in-public model and apply it to the lab a little bit so
There's there's a couple ways that this will be showing its its face soon one of them is
We're we're planning so I don't want to I don't want to Leak it we'll probably be talking about it next week's way and show
But I want it to be lucas's words because it's it's his stuff not mine
But we're planning some potential changes to powers by testing. That's all I will say now
But those details and the changes that will be happening are going to be talked about in a Labs article
And then there will likely be a forum post accompanying it so that people can give feedback
I love it and we're going to be saying like hey, this is the situation that we're dealing with
This is the plan that we are planning on implementing. Let us know
But let us know I want to do so much more of that dude. I was disheartened to find out that the
acoustic chamber's done Because I didn't know oh and we didn't like make a video about it. Well, we're writing an article about it
We're going to be like we're going to be writing an article pictures of it being worked on like there wasn't a lot
We just glued panels. Well. Yeah, but it made a big difference. Did it not it did okay
But there's gonna be an article Fine good, but like I would have liked to make a video about it
So this this was part keeping all the cool stuff for his website
While my videos languish while I'm making videos about fire trucks. I'm so desperate
You can No, you can't spray the sound chamber. Sorry
Maybe the rf chamber there after can't chamber could probably take getting sprayed
It's metal Okay, the outside of it. Why would we do that? I don't know fire truck videos. Whatever. Um, but yeah
there's going to be an article on the sound chamber stuff and
there might Be a ShortCircuit maybe and the ShortCircuit would feature what we're calling Labs experimental graphs
So the graphs will indicate that these are tests under construction effectively. Um, so it's a way for us to
Try to do stuff and put stuff out there that we're pretty confident in
But we're still kind of evaluating a little bit So there will be an article talking about the current state of our sound testing
Uh, and there will be a a ShortCircuit video coming out with some of that sound testing in it
The article will explain what we're doing how we're doing it and we'll collect feedback
And then the video will show experimental graphs and we can get some input on like
What the graphs show can people understand what we're trying to convey with the graph that type of stuff
Yeah, it's coming along things are happening. It'll be good
Uh, all right. Hold on. Sorry. I'm just uh, but again, we'll probably talk about that more probably on when when those articles are actually
Posted up. So I don't want to talk too much about it right now. All right. So 40 60 ti 16 gig
There are some silver linings according to hardware unboxed and our numbers. Sorry. Yeah, thank you
It appears to range from 10 to 20 faster than the 40 60 ti in both 1080p and 1440p while being
$70 cheaper than last gen at msrp The issue is whether you can get it at that price
the good news though the even better gooder news is that
There is another card that you can buy for 1080p and even light 1440p gaming that appears to be getting
Much more affordable Even though one user user posted on r slash Intel ark who was upset about not being able to find stock
Several people in the comments said they are getting them no problem with minimal markup over msrp
So our notes here say Da da da da da da go shopping
For a b580. So here let's uh
Let's take uh, let's take my let's take my laptop for a little spin Intel b580. No statement
Don't Stop it. Okay. Intel b580. How are we doing here? What do you think luke? Here before don't don't look don't look
At the screen don't look at the screen. Okay. What do you think? Do you think b580 will be in stock?
uh no No, okay go with no if it's in stock. Okay, let's create a branching. Yeah situation here if it's in stock
Bearing in mind that it's MSRP like Intel's MSRP price for a base card is 250 US dollars
What do you think the price will be 350 350? Okay, let's go shopping
Okay, well the gunner is in stock and is 379
but This onyx is
329 this one is 319 last time I looked there was no stock
So this is kind of cool that there is actually stock in stock 19 is really good
I don't know who the crap onyx is media
But their Odyssey arc 12 gig card is 320. What's smoking? Okay, so hold on a second
It's on sale to a sir a sir nitro add to cart 319
He's looking cooler Intel until it. Oh, hold on. What is this?
See price and cut 395 get get real
Okay, what else we got here what else we got here Okay, this one's out of stock this one for 260 is out of stock. Okay, but hold on a second
Hold on a second. Hear me out here Because this is where things get crazy apparently Intel arc is still experiencing some shortages in the US
but in other markets Apparently it has it has chilled out a lot and
That appears to be very true
Check this out
Intel arc limited edition 359 that's cad that is Canadian dollars. Hold on a second here
Dude, I looked like two weeks ago and they're out of stock everywhere
See what there the stock is at the individual hold on hold on hold on hold on cat to USD
That is ten dollars over MSRP
which in Normal times still over MSRP would not be that exciting to me. Yeah, but in the ten now in the ten now times
Is actually quite exciting? Let's go ahead and check
They have one in Edmonton West. They have one in Victoria. Okay, not a ton of stock not a ton of stock
Okay, so they're they're not out of stock now, but there's like almost none. But can I order it online?
Added one to your cart. I Can order this in Canada right now for two hundred and sixty US dollars and
That is pretty good is a lot of gaming card for two hundred and sixty US dollars. Yeah, so I
believe I
Inventory coming in of these Intel arc cards Even if it's not enough to satisfy the appetite of the US market, which apparently is
Experiencing a surge in retail shopping right now
So the timing could be part of it Intel might have allocated enough B580 to the US
Only to realize too late that US shoppers are
Hoovering up consumer products right now in anticipation that pricing could go up due to the tariff situation
And I've been experiencing that first hand on LTT Store. So reminder
We have extended the Shipstorm sale event worldwide free shipping on orders over 150 dollars to help our American friends down there
Get anything that they need before Whatever impacts
Ultimately affect us from the tariffs as well as toes, you know say hey buddy
Hope you and the rest of the world love to have products from LTT Store.com
So shipstorm sale event still ongoing and has been strong crazy strong has been has been crazy. So I am
Optimistic for Intel arc, it's like
Okay, new CEO with his name lip butan. I think something like that. It doesn't matter the point is if you're watching right now
If you happen to be watching if anyone if anyone, you know, you've got you got the Intel CEO and your DMs, okay
You clip this. Okay, you clip this you send them Please
Don't give up on arc desktop. Yeah
Gamers need you the gaming market needs you. Okay, it might be too late
It might be too late to bring back the higher-end battle mage
Discrete GPUs. It is not too late for Celestial. Okay
Yeah, do it do the full line up for Celestial because that team that team has been working so hard
Okay, dude, dude the fact the fact that in a few short years they have gone from
Intel HD graphics essentially, you know in terms of the drive great competitor to a legitimate
Discrete competitor. I know the margins aren't great right now We know that for our fact because we know the die sizes. Okay, and we know what process. It's built on it's built at TSMC
So they are they're under the same cost pressure that AMD or NVIDIA are on these arc GPUs
I can understand why they might not be that incentivized to build a ton of them But but they're on to something they're on to something. This is this is good. This is important
This is a billion dollar industry that as far as I can tell NVIDIA is completely not paying attention to right now
They they have they are they are on complete autopilot
Do it I want to show one more thing for the lab site before
because I Forgot that I could show this hold on one more thing Steven J says Linus memory express also has a bunch of B580 challengers on their site
for 409 CAD which is
About 35 or 40 US dollars over MSRP, but that's like an OC card. Yeah, so that's not even it's probably gonna be over MSRP
Not even ridiculous. Yeah, I see them. I see them. I see them here here here here here
So here's they have these challengers as well as rock challenger OC nice. Yeah
They have more stock. Oh, dude, they got tons of these. Let's go ten plus it like every store
I could I could literally go to the Langley store Walk in and buy one right now
For here 409, but that's such a normal sounding thing
You can't because it's closed because it's a holiday
So for 40 for $46 over MSRP I could have a challenger OC card when they open tomorrow. Yeah
Speaking of things being not the right prices remember, I think it was two weeks ago
We talked about the bring your own price feature for the Labs website. Yes
This is not This is not
This is not ready yet. This was a hackathon project
So Liam the same person who championed it internally originally he mentioned
I think he got it from a comment somewhere or something But he was one that brought it up in the meeting he then chose this as his hackathon project
And made a version of it now before you're like, oh, I don't like how this thing or that thing works
It was a hackathon project. Leave it alone. It's it has not gone through UX UI any that kind of stuff
But this is so you can see add prices as a button here. It's 15 seconds. So just prepping you a little bit
You've got these cards. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Okay, okay
Okay, you can plug in your own prices for the cards. Oh, buddy. Oh, buddy
Oh, buddy close it and then the graph updates
And it works hackathon project functionally you can disable or enable price per frame we were kind of thinking that
Dan brought this up Dan Siegel on the team. That's pretty was thinking that that should probably just add a line
So it should show all the previous data, but add a line so you can still see the other things
I think that's a pretty neat idea the modal could look better
Whatever that those none of that it's a hackathon. Nobody cared
That's pretty cool. Okay, pretty can I not probably number one. It's not coming soon. Go away. Can I propose?
Maybe a fundamental problem
Sure, I know I know this is a big. Oh, not really. We have lots of other stuff to work on good
Okay, cuz and this is I think this is gonna be somewhat controversial because I think a lot of the audience is gonna disagree with me on this
Okay, but oh boy, how do I say this without?
without causing a stir I
Felt that that was an accurate way to assess
FPS per dollar and price to performance until I thought about it more. I
Think you need to think about it more because this was something that kind of blew my mind
When I was when I was trying to wrap my brain around and this would have been way back in the day
Okay, I believe the card that we were discussing was
Was it it might have been the 8800 ultra do you remember the 8800 ultra it was the 8800 GTX with a different plastic shroud on it
And it was like overclocked 10% or something and it was like
$300 more or something like that those numbers might be a little bit wrong
but the fundamental the fundamentals are right that it was the same GPU on the same PCB with
Functionally the same cooler, but a cooler shroud for hundreds of dollars more. Okay 8800 ultra and
I I was working on our PC like configurator and I was like adamantly opposed to a card like that
I was like, this is actually stupid and all you got to do is get MSI afterburner and turn it up 10%
Which every 8800 GTX will do so why does anyone care about this at all?
We shouldn't even we shouldn't even stock it was pretty much my perspective on it
I was like, this is the stupidest thing ever. No one should buy it. Okay. Okay
But hear me out While the FPS per dollar of an 8800 ultra and an 8800 GTX if you look at it this way a
$1,000 versus $700 and this one gets 10% more performance for what would it work out to a 40% more price?
Basically, it's a stupid thing for completely stupid people
But and this was explained to me in a way that I kind of was combative
Against and didn't understand for a while until it
finally clicked Well, the math is actually that math is actually completely flawed
because most people are buying a computer system and
In the context of you hold on hold on no no trust me trust me in the context of your entire computer system
That costs $3,000
Spending another $300 to have 10% more performance could actually make perfect sense
Okay, so for that reason I think we actually need to consider
The cost of the system when we do these calculations
Because otherwise I think that we are because the cost of that FPS is not just the GPU
That is not actually accurate unless you're doing an upgrade if you are doing an upgrade it kind of is
But that comparison would realistically
Like you still paid for that system though I don't think just because you do the math one time that you can't consider anything else in the scenario
Anything else in the scenario like I of course you have to consider your total system cost and the
Impact of that difference on the total system cost might be x percentage of the total system cost that you're expending
But that I don't think that makes the the frame for dollar equation irrelevant. I think it I think it makes it
It's it's more drastic than it. Yes, but I think that's up for the user to understand
But I could help communicate I don't think a lot of them do and that's the challenges every time I bring up this argument
I have people kind of Again, I'm sorry not understanding it because they seem to be something we can solve by communicating to the users
I don't know we say on there like
Make sure that you consider What if we what if we suggested that people put in the total system cost?
I think that would be fine because my my issue is the in its current form
It feels like a graph that doesn't start at zero. You like to zoomed in. Yeah
That's the best. I think that's the most succinct way of explaining what I'm trying to
What I'm the point I'm trying to make here. No, I think your point is super valid
I just I think there. I don't think that means don't build it in my opinion. Oh
Yeah, like change how you communicate it or something we need to we need to fundamentally
Think about how we are presenting this information to make sure that people aren't getting the wrong impression
Yeah, that's super fair. I think I think like let me see here. I'm gonna bring it back up
I bet you you could almost solve it by like just to that can you see my mouse just to the left of this box?
You could put like total system cost with this card or make it more simple than that
Yeah, like inform them of what to put in the box. Yeah, you could maybe even have examples or something
I don't know we could do a little bloggy post explaining how people will do it
But then you know that'll be buried two years after it's posted and no one will see it
But we can like try to help guide people as much as we can but I yeah, I don't think I don't think that means
We should still build the feature. Yeah, but I understand. Yeah, and I think that's a good point
Hathos has a really great example in the Floatplane chat that uses real math. Sure. My recent build was seven thousand dollars
Of that. We don't know what currency they're talking. So I don't know but probably a lot
But the GPU was thirty five hundred dollars
Had I gone with a 90 70 XT?
I would have 63% of the gaming performance. I have today at
58% of the cost so oddly enough Linus's argument works. Yeah, no
It definitely works. I don't think it's odd even it just definitely. Yeah, but it's like but that's okay
So I kind of defaulted just that being something that people would consider when they're looking at this stuff
But I understand the argument that they won't so okay and the challenge with upgrade
To people is that I think that it still applies just especially at the high end
The numbers are gonna be kind of skewed. Yeah, because if you aren't building a new system
You weren't actually getting all of that performance
Because you're bound to be bottlenecked by the rest of your system. This is where I was kind of okay
So fair enough, but this is kind of where I was thinking like I was hoping people were understanding the whole equation as well
Because if you're upgrading you're probably flipping your GPU to probably now
It's really the price is really the Delta. Yes, so it's like but I so I want people to but how do we do this without it being like
Like a macro laden excel sheet that you like punch
An article you have to read like I want to be like a user manual like a PDF you download before you interact
Use your user manual for your five text boxes You have to scroll the way through the page and certify that you have read the user manual before you interact with this page, right?
Like I just want to make sure That we are considering. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a good. That's all good the different ways of doing the math here
Because I want this to be a really useful tool and I don't want anyone to go. Oh, yeah
Well, okay, man What would be an example of like where they would accidentally spend too much?
Probably that wouldn't happen because I think it mostly it damages the value proposition of the higher end stuff
It would generally skew down But I'd hate for people to like that example in the in the chat
I'd hate for people to spend a thousand dollars on their computer and then buy the thing for a hundred bucks
That performs, you know, oh man, how do I how do I explain this?
Whatever the point is at a certain point if you're spending enough on the rest of your system
There's better value to be had by actually spending a little bit
But a lot more on your GPU like you could you could get a better value spending double on your GPU $200 versus $100
For a GPU that performs only 20% better because now your budget is $1,200 and is 20% better versus about versus
$1,100 and it's 20% less or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, 20% less depends on your tasking, right?
Like if you're doing something that's super super CPU heavy that might not be true
But then it's true for the CPU instead
It kind of depends on the thing that you're focusing on
We'll figure it out guys. We're gonna figure it out. Yeah, there has to be some way
There has to be a way to to present this information and make sure that we don't we don't bamboozle
We don't bamboozle everyone into buying a B580
Yeah, there that's the point. I'm trying to get to if you're spending
$500 on your base platform you buy a B580, right?
But if you're spending $2,000 on your platform and you're buying a B580
It's the best bang for the buck doing something wrong It's the best bang for the buck in a vacuum against other GPUs
But in the context of that $2,000 system It is not the best bang for the buck and you are leaving a ton of performance and a ton of wasted budget on those other things
Completely on the table regardless of whether you're buying them today or you bought them already. It's not a good balance
I want to help people find a balanced
Configuration yeah, like we're gonna be talking about this at the all-hands so a little bit of a spoiler, but like one of the
Things that the Labs website wants to work on over the next who knows how long is
Trying to help get people to final decision more so right now. It's a really good info dump page for nerds
Yes, but it doesn't really help you which is great
Yeah, but it doesn't really help you get to a final decision It can refine you down a little bit
Yeah, maybe if you use the comparison page properly and stuff it can help get you sort of there
But it doesn't really drive you to a final decision And there's there's a number of things that we can do better and do more of do differently whatever that can help get us there
There's a ton really one of them is these types of things
So we want to we want to do more of it someone mentioned a unique username said maybe also consider power consumption if you want to over complicate it
I think that's a different chart. Oh, yeah, that is something that we could do
Total cost of ownership analysis and like yeah try to integrate
You know on the on the top x-axis like the acoustics and like we're gonna end up with a chart nobody can read
Yeah, I think it's already gonna be complicated when we try to work in this messaging around total system cost
But it is something that I would like I would like to see us integrate
I really I think there's I think there's ways to do it Like I think there's even things that we could do where like if you put it is the wizard version
There could maybe be a wizard version. That's more depth
In the graph graph version It could basically be that and we expect people to kind of figure it out on their own or they could have an input field for whatever
But in the wizard version you basically just go hey, here's my system or like here's here's how much my system cost
Recommend here's my config and how much I paid for it Recommend the best bang for the buck GPU upgrade because then we have all the information
We know what kind of budget you're shopping in and we can just be like yeah, this may be surprising, but you actually
Are best off with a RTX 5090 because anything else would be sort of leaving a ton of performance on the system
Yeah, yeah, it's like go to the beach in in dress shoes. I drank like three of these today. I'll be right back. You're watching me
It was something we could do as you're getting up and walking is make it so that if you this might be really really annoying
But we could make it so that there's general expectations for prices for GPUs
And if you put that in instead of a system it could put a little warning triangle and the warning triangle would link you to the article
explaining why he understands now, but It could link you to the article explaining why you should probably put in your system cost
But then it's up to the user right the user could just choose to ignore it. Where's the this way nice
the user could just choose to ignore it and then just look at the GPU in a vacuum because that will still be interesting for people
That is still a useful and interesting number. It's just could be misleading when you're looking to buy a whole computer
So Yeah, I don't know There's a variety of ways that we do it
Some of them are very annoying on the dev team like the one that I just mentioned
So I don't know the dev team and anyone doing data entry
So I don't know if we necessarily actually want to do that because it's super tedious
But there's probably a variety of other ways of doing it as well. So
We'll figure it out But yeah, there's there's there's a ton of things that we can do with the Labs website. We're planning on
We're planning a lot of stuff I probably should stop talking to be completely honest because every every time I talk about potential future features for
For anything all that anyone
Talks about in just drop the potential in chat. Yeah, yeah, they completely drop the potential
They assume it is the number one priority thing that we're working on now when like in reality
a lot of the
Tasking for high priority stuff for the lab right now is like working on better graphing tools for the local team and
improving some of the data entry stuff that local team has to do in order to get articles up and
Doing some revisions to some of the product pages that we currently have like introducing
New graphs to the power supply verticals doing some revamping stuff
Maybe the keyboard and mouse because I haven't been touched in a long time things like that
Not not the like sexy new feature development stuff, so
You know, but it's it's coming. It'll happen in summary buy an Intel Arc B580
In every scenario in every scenario because it's always always the best bang for the buck. Yeah
Yes, I washed here nice yeah, or it's P one of the two one of the two or both I could have watched poorly
That's possible. I mean, I guess It could have been more than just water and pee at least three actually that would have taken longer
That while you're walking I
Didn't know for sure that the building was empty
It's even more reason to
I don't need I don't need this is your building line is look I
Have gone home. We talked about this
It's after hours. I have enough scandals when I like didn't actually do anything. I
Don't need to actually expose myself in the office. Oh
Man, all right. What are we supposed to be doing? Let's explain the merge messages
Ah, yes merge messages. Well, I can see that quite a few of you have figured them out already
Oh, how are your fingers doing there, Dan? Pretty good. It's not quite as
Bad as last week. Well, I haven't reminded the people that there's free shipping on lttstore.com now
It's gonna be as bad as I'm sorry free shipping on lttstore.com on all orders over
$150 that is worldwide. We are extending the deadline
It is now until Tuesday April 22 at 10 a.m. Pacific time
This is largely because the team has been doing an incredible job getting orders out and we are
Less concerned that those orders are not going to make it over the border before May 2nd
Which is when According to the current guidance a bunch more tariff stuff is supposed to kick in or something like that
So we've got a bit more time to take in orders that we will that we will be able to get over before any tariffs will
Impact the costs on them So now is a better time than ever to check out the MCM essential solution
Which is running at just $80. We also have our magnetic cable management starter kit
Which is just to give you guys kind of a taste you can check it out You get a power bar key so that is for those little like keyhole things you put it in there
You screw it on and they're also great for holding up anything that uses a quarter 20 mount
So it's threaded for that so I could like you could like mount a you know camera with it
Yeah, nice strong magnet the base just unscrews and then it's like a circle with a yeah
Super super handy cable tie holder medium and small arches and with a bunch of the different grip plates
So you can get an idea of exactly what it is that you that you that you would want
Great time to pick up a commuter backpack This has been one of the top movers and of course there's all the classics right northern lights desk pad available in any size you want
We've got the great Configurator on there so that you can see how it's gonna look on your desk depending on the width that you have what kind of desk pad
You want move it around you can add a Monitor we still have that right. Oh, yeah, there is show peripherals
You can kind of see what it's gonna look like but but but but but but but that is a fantastic little tool
The team whipped up the og backpack. It's been surprising to me. I thought the commuter backpack was gonna cannibalize it
Were you talking about the desk configurator? Yeah, those just Conrad. Oh great job Conrad
So the og backpack I thought the commuter was gonna cannibalize it. It has actually caused the og backpack to
Go up in sales Kind of makes sense to me actually I
Would have originally assumed the same as you did
but I get Why I think
Why I don't because if you here if you see a review because there's some people that have covered it and you know
The people will talk about it what not about this good backpack You might look into it and then go hmm. I wanted a bigger one and then go oh the same company made a bigger one
It looks great. I'll get that one, right? I guess we've kind of gotten we've gone beyond just our audience at this point
So that didn't really I sometimes it's hard for me to wrap my brain around that that is a bit of a newer thing. Yeah, yeah
Like oh, this is this is pretty wild We have a big shipment of blank shirts coming because which is good because a lot of them are stuck
Including tall and I think the tall is like I think we pushed that one out of stock too
Our business team has apparently been getting a ton of inquiries from just like random people who work at random companies that are like
Yeah, well, they want the blanks your blanks are like way better than like what all of our corporate apparel
Let's go. We have not found a better balance. So like do you guys do that? And we're like no, but I mean
First time for everything. Yeah, it was a good. It was a good week or so lots more coming
Three days. Are there gonna be anything other than just black because I'm only gonna have black shirts
I tried one on the other week I might have been might have been yesterday. Oh, he's a day before coach potato. Yeah, they didn't give it to me
Oh, all right, because there aren't any in stock There's a different color of a t-shirt
Okay, we're working on it. Okay. I'm stoked. Anyway, the point is you can also pick up a scribe driver
Spoiler precision multi bit is one of the ones that is almost guaranteed to go up in price
If the tariffs do get implemented the way that we currently anticipate that they will
So now would be a really good time to pick up a precision
Anyway, where was I going with that? Right? So if you want to send a merch message
All you got to do is add some items to your cart and
You will see the merch message box You go ahead and leave a message and it will go to producer Dan who will
Respond to it or curate it for me and Luke by the way, and when you're in the cart, don't forget the bonus bin
You can get stickers cool
Dan do you want to show us how merch messages work by reading out a couple curated ones? Yeah, sure
I wasn't sure if you covered this at the top of the show, but I got this one very easily
Linus the incoming is blowing up now. I know Linus
Do you think NVIDIA will ever increase the stock of like dozen series GPUs to meet demand or do we all just give up?
Hope until the next series so I don't know how much truth there is to this
But I read an article that someone wrote somewhere for some publication
I forget who it was and I forget what site it was so I don't know how credible it was but what I read was that their Blackwell data center GPUs have not been particularly well received and
some of their customers that had bought into Blackwell heavily
Before NVIDIA was shipping it have been Disappointed by the power and cooling requirements and general buggy-ness and have actually been preferring to fall back to hopper based systems
What that would indicate to me if true and this was speculation
Speculation from that article, so I'm not going to take credit for it
But what that could mean is that NVIDIA might be incentivized to push some of their their wafer bookings
For Blackwell to consumer GPUs rather than their more lucrative AI
Enterprise and data center GPUs interesting if that is the case and this was this was weeks ago
So if that is the case then sometime in the now a few weeks
We could potentially see a dramatic loosening of supply for 50 series and it does appear that it's kind of happening already
Not in the US so much again just like with Intel Arc
It seems like the US is a little late to catch up which I think they're not really used to like I think other countries are like super used to
You know an MSRP being announced and availability being announced and them being like okay. Well, I guess
Some months from now. We'll get it for some dollars get it for some amount of dollars
But I think there's just so much pent up GPU demand in the US from just years of drought that
It's just hoovering up anything that anyone can ship into it. So
So things are do seem to be loosening up a little bit on 50 series
But I think there's a lot more work for NVIDIA to do to help to stabilize pricing at somewhere near MSRP and I if
They are they are not selling through as much of their their Blackwell data center GPUs as they would hope I would it would
Certainly be in their best interest to use those wafers to make desktop GPUs rather than just I don't know try to renege on their contract or whatever
Like they're still selling desktop GPUs profitably. It's just not as
profitable, right Now how about some announcements? Oh, are we doing one merge message?
Well, we're doing a new method. We're doing a new method. Just read the
Just read the thing. Okay, so just the CW. What is it? Go fuck yourself San Diego. Is that just just read the thing read the line Bart?
Cowabunga, sorry. Well, no, I didn't do it. I think that's what it was. I think it's I didn't do it
Okay, sorry, what am I supposed to be reading? But just the CW one. Where is it?
A segue to this. Oh, but I just did that Okay, did you? Yeah, I think so you have until Tuesday to get LTD store over 150 the magnetic cable management
Yeah, I talked through it. Okay, cool. I go to LTD store comm and make sure that you use this opportunity to get
I think you did do this. I did it. All right. Okay. Hi, Luke. Then it's two merge messages. I went it to become two
Well, wait, what's the Floatplane announcement? Well comes after a merchant. I didn't agree to any of this
I don't know what's happening. They changed on us. Oh, oh, there's a whole it could be one merge message up here. Oh
I see this could be one. Well, we'll do to but I thought we'd give people a long
There's like an agenda now. Yeah. Well, that's so professional in a document and everything there was before but now
It's different. None of us read it apparently for like a long time. I mean, yeah, why would I exactly?
Cuz I write them for me And then I don't read them anymore because they're for my reference like man
We're all gonna gloss over this during the show Yeah, I thought it was just like a checklist for the preparation of the doc to like make sure that we kind of knew
What we're gonna be talking about. I didn't think it was for the actual hosts I told them that we will also never read it in the future. So they just need to tell us when there's a change
Yeah, yeah, tell me and then I tell you you guys don't even have to worry about it literally ever
Yeah, let's do that. Sure. Yeah, cuz realistically Dan's gonna be here because if he wasn't here
He would end the streak and there's no way he's gonna allow that to happen. Look at this guy. Look at this man. He's cold
He's calculating. He's Cryptic he's
Commanding that one doesn't start with a K. Okay
Now we do another merge message because now we're immediately out of order. It's all gone wrong. Yeah
Hit me Dan. Oh world class. Hi Luke Do you often talk you often talk about gaming or dopamine addiction and the harm it does have you read?
Dopamine nation or anxious generation your hunches and references line up well with the research. Oh
Wow, that's good to know. I haven't read either
I've heard of both of those but I haven't read either of them
But I'm happy that I'm not so far off. I in to be honest. I think it's pretty obvious
I suspect most people know they just don't do anything about it
I suspect you overestimate the capacity of most people
All right, fair enough That might be true George Carlin's famous bit think about the averageest person, you know
The really interesting research is how dramatically people overestimate where they fall on an IQ bell curve
How like dramatically over half of people will think that they are above 100 points when actually that is
Not possible because that's literally not how that scale works at all
It's pretty it's pretty interesting. Well, the thing is you have to be
You have to be smart to know that you're not that smart
You know something is interesting to me and this is not exactly in line with what you were saying
but something that's interesting to me is the like
If you're like, I'm in the 75th percentile for performance band at this thing
Mm-hmm compared to someone in the 99th percentile you are absolute suck
Yeah, but someone who's in the like 99.7
Versus someone who's 99.0 The 99.0 person probably kind of sucks compared to the point seven like the final little bit is
Insane, yeah, like it's it's how much better Connor Mcdavid is
Yeah, and even someone who is better than you know, it's a one in
100,000 hockey player. Yep, like it's not close. Yeah, like to the point where he could toy with them
Yeah, like it's it's why it does on a regular basis. Yeah, that's hockey player in the world. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's yeah
Anyways, it's scrappy Dp says Ovechkin. So
Hear me out Super Mario
More more goals per game Fighting back injury literally recovering from cancer way more goals per playoff game. He played in the deadpuck era
Super Mario Way more dynamic player way more assist second only to Gretzky
Actually, my favorite my favorite hockey player not even close pretty based not even close
But yeah, I don't know my line that I'll say again is you are constantly at war
You're at war with many many many billion dollar companies that are fighting for your brain and they want you to suck
Yeah, it's your job to not suck Went from not playing for four years
Literally sipping coolers needing potato chips to acquiring the franchise that he played for put on his skates
Put up numbers. I Didn't know he owned the team while he played for it Super Mario
Literally came out of retirement To like help the team that he had acquired that's dope. The guy is actually an absolute Chad
Also, I can never find the bloody clip of it Is that that he got a back injury moving his couch right and then he went to the game like right after is that I don't remember
I don't know that about him. That might be true but the
There's a there's that there's this like
4,000 IQ clip of him Where he doesn't actually score or get an assist and I've never been able to find it again
But it just about made my jaw hit my keyboard when I saw it
It's unfortunately not an NHL clip So I've had a really hard time tracking out tracking down where it was from
But basically he's he's he's rushing to the crease and his right winger
passes and Lemieux
Picks up his stick looks at nothing looks at nobody picks up his stick so that the puck will go through him and
His left winger bangs it into a completely empty cage
because he just had 4,000 IQ knew where absolutely everybody was on the ice and made that happen without even touching the puck. It's
Crazy, that's so sick. Also, you're wrong the rest of the world play cares plenty about hockey
They just don't know it yet and to do And to do that while knowing that you will get no credit. Oh, yeah is so sick dude
So cool. That's dope. So cool Yeah, if anyone if anyone can remember and like find the clip on talking about I would I would be so I would be so pleased
So when a chat I already lost it but somebody chat said we need I found it Hathos said we need a good hockey anime
I totally agree the closest thing we have to it is
Shorzy, there's a parent. Oh
Shorzy is an anime. I need this
There's a pretty good bad thing to an anime apparently, but I haven't watched it yet. I've been meaning to
Never really gotten into anime, but apparently it's apparently it's pretty solid back when I was my chat
Craft right when I asked them to find a clip for me Luke. They didn't dang it. Oh, they didn't find it
They just someone just linked one. Oh, then mine's frozen and it's real
These people are awful bamboozled. Well, you know, you love them. Yeah. Oh
Was it the 2002 Olympics, this is between the legs assist which doesn't sound like what you described
Oh, no, hold on. Maybe yeah, maybe I had it wrong. Hold on. Can I can I watch that?
Okay, hold on this might be this might be the one maybe here
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, definitely not that right that makes sense. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Let me see it
Let me see it This might not be it because it was like crappy or grainy or footage
Hold on where's the slow version of this and this game is too fast
Okay, blah blah blah crowd reacts. Okay, here's the here's the slow version. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on
No, that's not it. Yeah, it didn't it's good. That's not it. No, it's a this this is great. Oh
Okay, okay, you know what we're gonna take a risk we're gonna take a risk you can't see it unless you're at that angle
You're gonna take a risk. This is this is the this is it. This is the 4,000
Angle to see this that's crazy. This is insane
Okay, so here we go. Here we go. It's a little bit as possible. Okay. Yeah, we're gonna play
Puck is pointed out. That's not just a random dot. Here's the puck. Yeah. Okay. Hold on
Okay, so yeah, here we go. Here we go. This is the right winger with the puck
Why does space not play on this website because you have the that's selected. All right. All right. All right. All right
Okay, okay, check this out
4,000 IQ
What it looks it looks so basic, but it's so sick. Are you kidding me right now? That's so sick. Are you kidding me?
That's fantastic that
No one no one before you described it is like
You're not even wrong, but you're like it's not an NHL game like what you're like downplaying the game is the Olympics
NHL games so it was hard for me to find it
What tournament it was from I thought you're trying to say like it was just like a for fun like random who cares
You didn't I thought so yeah, no this dude that like oh man that what dude that was oh that was
That's insane. It's beautiful. Just like this like give him the assist. I'm not sure. I'm not sure he definitely
Assisted he deserves it. Yeah Lethal bacon says man. It was an okay shot. He didn't take the shot. That's the point. Yeah, he like he like
Pretended doesn't even look up. Just
Just pretends that he's doing it so completely open cage. Love it. Absolutely love it
And to be clear, there's a lot of modern players that are making moves that just
blow the mind I watched a clip the other day where
The guy what was going on he had a defender on him and he puts his stick out and
Blade goes flat against the ice. He makes a ramp and the puck comes up and ramps off his stick and goes over the defender stick and goes to his teammate
He didn't like it looks insane to watch. It's full speed. Everything just
Players are so good these days. Huh?
Super Mario was on a different level Literally like yeah, nice. Easy. He's
Unbelievable is a thing of beauty based Okay, what what else we know now? We're gonna do a third merge message a third merge message or we can just do two
No, I'm gonna do three because we're minutes over time now
And it says it on the dock that I didn't write hello Dynast duke and land AWS technician here just coming up on one year
What is the jankiest most inefficient process you've ever seen a?
Tech industry giant have that is different from others. I think that's a process
Spelled wrong. Oh Count is a tech industry. No, I don't think so not a giant not in the tech industry. Oh, well, we're a media company
I'm hiding behind that shield today You asked me a different day. I'm like, yeah, I've got company Floatplane
Whatever once that narcissist do it
I'm giving this to Linus. Oh Man, he's right
Yeah, no, we do He owns tech companies. That's my old anyways, whatever
These funds are paying dividend
Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna count this one
I'm gonna count this one and I'm gonna name them because I'm pretty sure
Everyone who worked there when I worked on this is gone. So this says absolutely nothing about the company in its current form
This was like sure ten years ago. Yeah, I don't even that CEO isn't there anymore. Okay
When I did a sponsored project for Ford
At the New York International Auto Show
This was this was a cluster bomb. I don't think it's gonna be controversial contacted us
During CES. Okay, and I don't know if you guys know this but the New York International Auto Show at least back then was right after CES
They were like, okay, we want to bring you guys out for our sponsored social posts
and There's this round table discussion and we're and we're gonna be we're gonna be the first to
broadcast in 360 on Facebook which would have been a thing back then which would have been a thing back then and
We need you to do these Instagram posts and you know, whatever and I really didn't want to do it
I I really didn't want to because I was coming back from CES and CES is always a grind and
Particularly back then it was a grind and a half the way that we would tackle that show with very few people
It was it was I don't know how we did it So anyway, I literally couldn't anymore
The offer though and we needed the money. We really needed the money at the time and the offer was really good
so I agreed to fly back from Vegas to Vancouver on my original flight and then
Literally, I have a meal in the airport with my family and fly to New York
Which I was not stoked to do But you know, it was one of those things where the way that I would always do the math and even now
I actually I find myself falling into this math again Even though we have like proper reports and stuff the way that I would do the math is I would take our average salaries
And I would go okay, how many how many like employee hours would this pay, right?
Like that was just the way I would do the math It's not an unreasonable way to think about whether I would take a project, right? This runs the company for like three weeks
I have to take it. Yeah, I look it in. Yeah. Anyways, I'm not going to be clear
I wouldn't take it if there was anything an ethical problem with it or whatever else
But it was just it was like a couple sponsored Instagram posts for Ford who cares, right?
Like it didn't yeah, they weren't asking me to say anything that was untrue
It was so so it wasn't a question of that. It was just a question of okay
This is a perfectly okay project to take. Is it worth it? Yes
so I got there and They're giving us kind of they kind of set us loose in the showroom. It was a bunch of us and
They kind of go, okay Here's this like we had this special app that we had to use to create draft posts that their agency could then
Approve and then they would go up or something
So so anyway, we're like going around they have the show We're on the show floor and they have their showroom with all of their all of their vehicles
And they had a few key things that they wanted us to look at you know things like backup cameras and stuff
That would have been features back then and the reason that I'm counting this as a tech
Company is because Ford was in the midst of trying to rebrand themselves as a tech company
But I think they've kind of done I mean f-150 lightning is a pretty techy car at this point, right?
So so that's why I'm calling for a tech company because they were calling themselves a tech company
And that was a big part of the push and it was a big part of the reason that I was there rather than traditional automotive
Influencers or whatever else right so anyway
I'm on the show floor, and I'm like, okay, so I'm done my Instagram posts. This doesn't seem like work
No offense to like Instagram influencers or whatever like that
That's some of them put like a ton of work into the staging and framing and whatever
But realistically Ford didn't care and I didn't care We had like almost no followers on Instagram, so I go to the I go to the rap and I'm just like
I'm done like do you want to do YouTube video or something?
And they're basically like no
The KPI is Instagram posts. I'm like cuz like
I'll do it like this is pretty cool. Like I actually I like the products
I think they're cool like do like should I should I do that now? They're like no
And I'm like, but I don't even I don't even have a lot of I don't even have a lot of followers on Instagram like I
Like I'm way bigger on YouTube. Do you want me to? But that's how rigid
icky the processes can be And it's I don't know about icky, but it's incompetent. I just I don't I
Detest that like type of work Sure hate it where you're not giving any thought yeah, but realistically they're not in a position where they can give thought
But then I would I would not function. Oh, I see what you're saying is a personal thing. Yeah, I get it
No, I get it Not even necessarily blaming them like it just I don't know what I think happened with someone bailed
And I think that it was someone with more Instagram following and at the end of the day
They just have their KPI and their KPI is they need a certain amount of like Instagram likes and they have a certain budget
So they go out and they get a stable of influencers that get them over their limit
They need to have a certain number of people there for the round table discussion They just have the parameters and they're working with their parameters and a YouTube video doesn't help them at all
Not their parameters so they don't care but the reason why that
Feels icky is because you don't feel like you're on part of a team because it's not part of the parameters
It doesn't help them at all. It doesn't help their team at all even though that would help the organization
It would help your your people as a whole but at that scale
I think this just happens it just happens where that's irrelevant now
Yeah, and I just I just don't like that KPI stands for key performance indicator
So basically the the the proof of performance that you like did your job
So like if you're a sales representative your main KPI is going to be selling lots of stuff
Like think about think about your customer care your KPI would be customer satisfaction surveys
Think about when we started putting flow plane exclusives on
To YouTube for YouTube members
People came to me with that like tiptoeing super hard
Because they expected me to be pissed and my response was like this seems like the right move for the company overhaul
Good job But that isn't it's not it shouldn't be protectionism
Yeah, I mean the experience is still better on flow plane. You still get more stuff on flow plane
We're talking to flow plane chat right now. It's a it's it's better. Yeah, but it's not some people will never
Do any engagement with us whatsoever off of YouTube? That is a fact
Yeah, their payment information is already there and it's more convenient for them to just click a button
It's a it's a worse experience. They don't get as much But they get something and if that something is worth it to them for those dollars, we will take those dollars
Sure sounds good and we will give them something in return, but that perspective is a big part of why
You were probably always destined for some kind of management
and some people don't see that
perspective and sometimes it's not even their own fault because
They can I think I think people can end up really disenfranchised when their leadership
Doesn't see the bigger picture like you describe Like I think that you could start with an idealistic view that anything you do that helps the company should ultimately be you know
received positively and rewarded But if you get like if you get it beaten out of you enough times like let's say let's say I was that sales wrap
I think this happens a lot Let's say I was that sales rep and I'm only incentivized by like selling things
But I would spend probably a solid half an hour of my day every day
Making sure that I tied it up the front desk
Because because no one else was doing it and I'm still like mostly hitting my quota
But then I have someone yelling at me because I'm such a good sales person and I'm not just talking to customers
Then I might stop doing it Right, and I think that I think that I think sometimes that might be okay
But it's often not like think think about if that sales rep did do the YouTube video with you
It gets a million views, but your
50,000 like Instagram post didn't go up. I have no idea how many likes we get on Instagram very few
We had a pretty small following on Instagram 5,000 like it's not even sure yeah
2000 thanks one thousand. I have no idea anymore
45 like Instagram posts Doesn't go up for some reason and he misses his quota by your post amount. Yeah, but your YouTube video got a million views
to me Huge win. I know whatever I know, but I maybe he loses out on
Some in personal income or whatever else for that reason like that can really bash people down
You have a miniscule ego compared to most the executives and project managers I've seen and he tagged me I don't
Definitely hasn't I
You actually nailed it by the way, I think your first guess was 5,000 likes. No, I think I said 50
Oh, did you I corrected down to 5,000. Okay. Well, this was the 360 degree camera set up. Yeah
I think yeah, yeah, this one this one was part of the sponsored thing
Look at all these like ads and hash tags Fun fact by the way the roundtable discussion did go ahead according to plan, but they never published it. I
think yeah, I I would imagine it didn't make it past legal or something and
The scuttlebutt that I heard was that what's the what's the American?
I know Ryan Seacrest actually co-hosted the panel and
The scuttlebutt that I heard was that that was a 100s of thousands of dollars bill
For a piece of content that was never published
Not to mention so hundred hundreds of thousands of dollars for Ryan Seacrest alone
Who my understanding who was only there for part like the first half along with Ford CEO at the time?
And then they're like VP of technology or whatever it stepped in for both of them
And it continued in the second half and I overheard someone saying that Seacrest was literally already in the shuttle back to his private plane
By the time we were done wrapping The second part
And so and that and that was on top of all the cost of having literally the entire rest of the table of influencers sitting there
So I think basically I'm not even trying to pick on Ford and I'm certainly not trying to pick on any individual person
Like I said none of the people that I interacted with there's any way that they're still at Ford at this point
This is 483 weeks ago. This was in 2016 so nine years ago
nine plus years ago but I think that what I was the point I was trying to make is that
processes can get extremely KPI focused and
Very focused on the trees when the forest is much more important
And I think that that's something that can happen at just about any large company. Yeah, and the reason I'm telling this story is
Mostly to illustrate that this kind of thing happens all the time super common
And that is a big part of my perspective in general where you'll see other tech media
Go malice malice malice scamming taking advantage of the customer
When from what I've experienced the probably like perverse incentives
Likely explanation is incompetence because there is no way that them refusing a free YouTube video from a youtuber
Instead of some crappy Instagram posts from a not Instagrammer had anything to do with anything other than incompetence
And that's just that's just the truth. That's just the way it is
To address the the ego comics I've been trying to think here. I'm like really surprised
Wow, you're really you're really uh, but I think I what kind of ego would you have to have to read that
Say it out loud and still be thinking about it when I'm saying things that are so much more interesting
I
Tend to I tend to align really well with with team effort. Yes, I tend to live really well with team effort
I also think I'm I'm rarely like the best at something when we start. I'm rarely the smartest person in the room
But I will out try hard like anyone
That has always been my thing forever I will sweat so hard and I will eventually win my mom had a term for the kids in her class that were
Not that not the brightest intellects, but we're really good at school she called them a getters
Because they got a's But they brute-forced it. You are not an a getter
No, you are actually someone who effortlessly got a's in school. Yeah, but you're you're one of those people who is
Very very smart, but like I was talking about earlier
Smart enough to know that you're not the smartest guy in the room. Yeah, like that's the thing, right?
and Like Luke was talking about with the like the percentile differences Luke could be 99th percentile
He could be smarter than literally 90 99 out of a hundred people
But then I hang out with but the insert name the 99.5 percent and the 99.9 percent
Basically are to him what he is to someone who gets
Passed over for every promotion, you know
And that's just the truth That's just the truth Of course, there's more to life than just being smart like a big part of success is learning to work with people
Communication skills the amount of wasted potential being personable who are smart
But have no grit or will put no effort into anything is insane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know
Scrappy DP says Luke not 99.9 percent we know
We know oh and actually the had matter says you can't be over 99 percentile
That is actually I don't think that is quite true I think depending on what we're measuring you can be over 99th percentile, but in terms of intellect
I don't think they rated over 99. I've no idea if we're talking about a theoretical like a hypothetical if there was the point
Is just that as you approach that asymptote It goes out really really really far within that 1% that we don't even really have a way of accurately quantifying
Yeah, and that even assumes that the IQ scale is
Accurate which we know for a fact that it isn't it's just kind of from my understanding the closest
Measure that we have of objective analysis intellectual
prowess the ability to like apply your IQ potential to something is like super important a lot of people just like can't do it due to
um I don't know ability to work as a team social skills in general different things like that can people can often struggle
um As humans or social creatures and you kind of have to accomplish things together generally
So I think people get held back from that sometimes
Um, okay. Oh, actually this is this is really funny. This is not really a great analogy
But it tickled me anyway Willing spy and Floatplane chat says it's kind of like how going from level 98 to 99 in diablo 2
Is the same amount of xp as level 1 to level 92
It kind of though like there's a runescape version of that too
98 is half of 99 or something like that. I don't quote me
I haven't played 2007 scape in a long time. It's actually wild though. Like it
I don't know 92 is half of 99. Maybe if you had more IQ 92. That's true. It's true. I had to look it up
All right, no skill waste. What are we doing? Uh, now you're gonna read the Floatplane announcement. Oh, okay
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Right away, sir um
I've always said Who the f*** is daniel beser? But i've never asked what the f*** does daniel beser do?
The answer to answer one of the two questions
We caught up with Dan in a new series Dan's dailies where he shares some of his day-to-day activities
um The current like dislike ratio on this is infinity
um People I think it's already on hiatus Dan's dailies is already on hiatus. Oh, yeah
It like I had to get canceled halfway through. Oh, uh, because I stopped doing different things. Yeah
And it got really really really boring. Okay, cool. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, anyway people really love this video
So you can go watch this video Also, where did we get this Floatplane mic flag because I love it. It's a 3d printed actually. I love it so much
Do you remember how much we paid for a stupid mic flag back our first trade show? No, but I remember it was like
Enough that we talked about it a lot unreasonably expensive
And then because it cost it cost so much to like get it personalized
I just like used a I used my printer at home and then I used packing tape
Around it to like try to make a branded flag. In fact. Oh man. Now. I have to go find this. I'm sure there's oh
Dude, I'm gonna find footage of it. Uh youtube hold on
Oh, it sounds like the creator roho's team made it for sammy. Maybe tyenin said we made it for sammy. That's super cool
Uh, let's see. Was it ces. I don't think it was ces. I don't think I had a mic. Well, it's not suit even
But we're dressed up. I'm sure you can tell how many videos I shot in a single day
Because I'm wearing the same shirt in this one this one this one and this one
Absolutely wild. They're likely more. There you go. Yeah, man. Those days were those days were wild
Uh, okay. Was it computex? I think it might have been computex because we did the the sponsorship with wd
Look at this guy. Oh, yeah. Look at this guy. Absolutely chad
um No, I didn't have a mic flag yet
Oh, man, remember when ed did this cool because we were like traveling. We took a plane there
We took a plane there. You're just so cool Uh, okay, I'm gonna keep trying to find this in the meantime. You want to find another topic for us?
Sure, wait, did I finish reading the thing? No, I didn't finish reading the thing. Do you want to finish it off while you look?
Sure, thanks. Uh, so yeah, like ratio really good. There's also a weird invitation, but okay
There's also a small discussion on air table a whole new system Dan is building uh
Yeah, uh, is building with the help of nicole at air table isn't the system that he's building
He's building a system on top of air table air table is a software product. But anyways, I've built something on top of an air table
I'm such a
Also season two of why is when late is now out and Linus is somehow winning question mark question mark. Is he cheating?
Never. Yes. Is Luke just slacking off? No and breaking the law. Yes
What's more of a cheat bending the rules or literally breaking the law?
It wasn't breaking the law of the competition though. It was just breaking the law
Of the country, which is less important objectively
Federal crimes are less important
Basically don't matter. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Uh, if you how do you tell that you're a c executive? Yeah
See sweet
Some of you may die, but at least I was not late that is a risk I'm willing to take
If you love the processes or want to see if Linus is a snakey cheat and stinking cheating cheater
That's there's no way that's in the dog. That says there's word for word
sneaky cheaty stinking cheating cheater Wow, I feel personally attacked right now. Check out because I'm being personally attacked right now
That's true. Uh, just like an executive check out LMG.gg slash Floatplane or
Yes Or youtube members plus for the lazy
You Can't call our supporters
I have to I have to you can't call our supporters lazy
It's it's in the dock. I gotta do it. Okay. Well, I found it
Uh, we gave you one of those zoom mics because oh dude, I'm actually so dapper
And then this is this is me
So
There you go So this oh my god, it's taped on this is packing tape. We've come a long way. We really just really really really glossy paint. We really have
Um So if we look closely there you go
You can really see so it wasn't quite the same width
So I had to Do a piece and then if I wrapped it around it kind of looked stupid
And remember okay, so hold on hold on if I wrapped it all the way around it would slip off
Right, right. So what I had to do was I had to
I I lined it up on two sides And then I would tape all the way around
And then I put the other two on and then taped all the way around
And I had to do the top and then a little Sliver at the bottom because it wasn't quite quite the right width
And if I didn't do that then it would like fray and look crappy at the bottom
If I wasn't looking this closely at it. I don't think anybody ever noticed or called me on this. Yeah, but this is very
Hand-done. Oh, I yeah, it blends in perfectly. Was this where we sponsored by ncx for that show. Yeah
Yeah, because we were still working with them on a regular basis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Also, I just completely like lose the flag in this part of the shoot apparently that's good. Good job Linus
That man he deserves every bit of ego that he has he's destined for great things for getting his forgetting his mic
Tynan says I see nothing has changed. It's just scaled up if it works I sits
For sure. Okay. Wow. What are we supposed to be talking about? Probably sponsors. No, we should do a topic
We gotta do another topic. Okay. You got one topic and then you gotta eat your peas. Okay, Dan. You can pick the topic though
Okay. Oh, no, this is too much pressure. I've never had to do this before
I mean if we're talking about if we're talking about sponsors talking about weird frity and slip
Do you know it's not it's normal Don't
Don't go outside for a few hours
All right, just for that trade war escalates Oh
Okay, how about discord trials discord sounds fun. That's a very oh, yes great platform that I like very much
Discord has his hot water this week as new jersey becomes the first state to sue the platform
Alleging it failed to protect kids from harassment abuse and sexual exploitation
The lawsuit claims discord marketed itself as a safe place for kids
I don't think I've personally seen that I've ever seen that but okay
Even though it knew its safety tools didn't work that I believe
Me too It highlights how easy it is for predators to contact minors. Thanks to discord's default settings. That's true. Yep
And lack of real age verification all the way in a birthday doesn't count
Meanwhile discord is quietly testing a new age verification system in the uk and australia that asks users
To scan their face or upload an id which sounds horrific
So, yeah, can I interrupt for a second here and say like yes discord lacks real age verification
Typing in a birthday doesn't count that totally makes sense. That's totally true But what what else are they supposed to do? I have no idea. I don't want them to do anything. I don't want them to do this other thing
Sounds horrible. Sorry. I would I would like if they change the defaults. That's it. Maybe if they added a parental controls mode
Does that exist wait? The system isn't all the time
Yeah, it's only when you encounter flagged nsfw content or try to change your sensitive content filter
That helps a little but not much. Yeah, okay carry on
Users can verify by using their phone's camera for a face scan or scanning a qr code to submit a photo of government id
Submit indeed discord yeah discord insists the data isn't stored face scans are processed on device and
Id images are deleted after verification meaning they're stored for a small period of time
But anyways, uh, if the system flags someone is underage they can retry request a manual review or risk a ban
I wonder if it's a ban from viewing that type of content or a ban off the platform probably ban off the platform
I had one of my kids discord account removed
Because they figured out they were a miner somehow
And then I made a new account for them
Is there parental controls for discord not very good, but they like exist
Well with my kids the parental controls are that I know your password and that I am I have full access to your computer
as your parent
Yeah
Uh, uh, Genesis says uh, someone probably reported your kid. Yeah, that makes sense
um funny Anyway, yeah, this move appears to be discord's way of staying ahead of tightening regulations like the uk's online safety act
And australia's rules banning under 16s from social media
Our discussion question though is can any platform realistically protect kids without unreasonably sacrificing privacy or usability?
Thank you. Luke. This is a really long and nuanced conversation. It's really good that we're able to
Like turn this into a to an actual topic we can discuss rather than just reading a thing. I think we need better
strong parental controls Like everywhere and I I don't think these types like
Uploading your id to freaking every platform that exists is not an acceptable solution of my I can tell you right now
Parental controls are not going to be a solution either parental controls exist for lots of these
Lots of platforms even if they do or don't for discord and parents don't use them parents don't use them parents don't even understand them
Like I've talked to I've told this story before but like hanging out with normie parents of my kids friends
Has been extremely eye-opening for me. Yeah, they literally don't even know what the fuck discord is
Yeah, that's crazy until the school sends out a memo warning about kids
Bullying each other on discord. They're like, well, what's a discord?
They they literally don't even know and their kids are like over 10 wild and they're like all on discord
Of course there that's wild I just I the biggest pushback for me is not actually the fact that like
It's extremely obvious that one of these platforms is going to get hacked at some point in time
And there's going to be some form of man in the middle thing and they'll be like, whoa, we don't store it
But yeah, the malicious attacker does that's not even my main complaint
My main complaint is the person that could be potentially trying to exploit your child
Sure could try to use some form of fishing style attack
To get them to give them photos Or potentially their id because if you normalize the idea of these platforms asking for photos and id you now
Create a fishing scenario where you can ask for photos and id and we should just not do this to begin with
In my I really don't think you're going to stop anything people will very likely find ways around this
Part of the problem too is just how archaic our id systems are like the fact that your social security number or in Canada
Your sin number is like a permanent number and like once people have it they like
Have it and can do stuff with it That's insane. I mean even a credit card right has to expire every few years so that someone who so if it's compromised
They don't just have it forever And it's way less important in the grand scheme of things than a sin number or an ssn
Like it that's insane But here we are. Yeah, like I didn't even pay for aquifax forever
That's a good system. Yeah, I told they get hacked. Um, I get it free because they got hacked
Me too, it's not even a joke
Fox and z i'm assuming new zealand says discord can't stop fishers abusing their qr code logins on the browser
Why should we trust them for scanning faces and id securely?
This is my point and it honestly has nothing to do with trusting discord. You can't trust any of them
It's not it's not i'm not even i don't know i don't know actually
I know I I take a I take extreme
exception
Mr. Mark Zuckerberg
I was wondering where he's gonna go with it. Can't even trust 4chan face book face book
Engaged in absolutely no anti competitive
Sorry, I can't even I can't even that would be such a difficult like thing to try to
Even do it with a straight face. Yeah, okay
I trust luke don't That's my point is like I don't like we can trust him but verify. Yeah, that's allowed. Yeah, that's allowed
My my and you can trust me bro as long as LTT Store continues to have an excellent track record of taking care of our customers
But once once it doesn't anymore than you shouldn't yeah
Like we uh, yeah, someone said even the LMG forum got hacked. That's my point
Yep, to be honest and like it's been a while and that's great. I'm happy about that, but it might happen again someday
Yeah, I mean we don't write the software the forum runs on no
You know so like we do our best, but uh
It is what it is every platform is vulnerable every single thing ever every lock every physical lock every software lock every door
Every wall every single thing ever is vulnerable to something this is wild nothing is ever dead antisocial in Floatplane chat
My wife got a letter in the mail trying to sell her stuff
It was addressed to her fake name that she only uses on facebook
Wild yeah, love it great. What a good world. Uh Dan, what are we supposed to be doing?
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Really you guys are water boys today. I don't know why I'm on my 4th. I have an iron bladder
I think it's from I I refer to it as gamer bladder
Gamer bladder. Yeah, I've started adopting gamer bladder as well. Yeah, sorry. I just muted there. Um, but yeah, it's like
I don't know. Yeah something about today
Yeah, speaking about about today. Should we do a merge message break or should I find another article?
Um topic. Why'd I say article? I mean there are articles sort of I guess maybe I guess
Merge message. Yes. No question mark. Oh, I think there's another one in here for you
Hey, look, it's a do you prefer working on your soft skills or technical skills?
I've always been told my soft skills are great. So I end up in main positions
But sometimes I hesitate if it's the right call
Hmm I find working on technical skills to be more fun and feel more rewarding in the moment. I feel like
working on soft skills Is less fun, especially because working on something often means failing to a certain degree and failing with soft skills
sucks. Um But I find the long term not like short
short term dopaminergic response, but the long term
uh Deep appreciation response to working on soft skills to be higher. Um
Yeah, maybe that's a good answer. Maybe not we're on with that
Um, maybe I'll find another topic because I was relatively short. Do you have any thoughts on that Dan?
I don't know the thing is like your your hard skills can be done
By yourself soft skills you need other people to do that
And so if you're not if you're not setting up an environment where you're interacting with people to
You know work on soft skills, then it's not
Yeah You want to jump to the pool robot video?
You can say controversy thing. I don't even know what it is to be honest. I don't know what it is either
Oh, yeah, we uploaded our pool cleaning robot video today, which obviously stirred up some comments
Um, so we want to have an open discussion with you guys point number one
Why don't they just go rent a pool somewhere else so they don't have to blur things
Um, buying people to loan us a pool actually is not that easy
Especially if we're going to like hug stuff in it. It needs to be not clean. Yeah
Most pools that you can rent are going to be clean
So, yeah We blur surroundings to protect privacy to the greatest degree that we can we always try to blur something if we can and it's
Better slash faster to have the auto blur tool navigate around the host rather than trying to track individual Windows
If the camera is moving point number two, why do we make pool bot videos?
Short answer is right in the name of the video showcase
um Got a great world-class team here. They need great world-class money
Um, we've always tried to be extremely clear when we do these showcases versus an editorial or a sponsored video that is
Integrated into the content um
We explained this in our how LTT makes money video and ultimately we turned down
Way more offers for showcases than we accept. It's only when we think we can make a video that's worth watching
I mean, I watched that video. I thought it was actually pretty entertaining. I think elijah did a great job
um And we let the host kind of carry the entertainment when we decide to take these kinds of showcases
We also attempt to upload them on uh low performing days So as to not take away from the other videos we might post that week
So it would be typical for a video like that to go up on a friday when
If you are more into things that are not just a sponsored pool robot video, you could also watch the WAN Show
So discussion question here is what could we improve next time? I mean
I think there's a lot of things that we could improve. I think we could probably frame a little bit more carefully day of
Um, you know try to make it so we don't have to blur as much. I think that um
I think that's the biggest one. I think that's what most people were mostly concerned about was the blurring
But in terms of the actual content of the video
I don't know. I actually I I actually kind of enjoyed it. I thought elijah did a great job and I thought it was interesting to see
Yeah, what is the actual difference in cleaning speed for the robot versus me for for those of you who don't want to watch the video
Because uh blurring bothers you a smart angle because I understand this content could be difficult to
Make interesting, but I'm skimming through it right now and that seems kind of cool
Actually, the robot took a few hours It didn't get everything but it had enough battery left that it could probably do another pass and
Like it would be done at that point. Um
And I took an hour So I beat it by a factor of like six, but it also took you an hour, but I personally spent an hour
Dragging sand and rocks and fake leaves out of my pool that elijah put there. Yeah. Yeah, I also
That f***ing guy His stupid sand that here I'm gonna say I'm gonna give this to I'll send this to Dan Dan if you want to show this on stream
um
That guy uh Here hold on
Yeah, I sent this to him Yeah, I'm gonna bring that uh
Someone just said an hour of cvo time on cleaning a pool. Yeah, but as the vision officer
He could see the stuff at the bottom of the pool more easily and you forget that my main role is
Not really cvo It's just a it's just a role that kind of works to describe the most important thing that I do grand scheme of things
But the thing that I actually spend the majority of my time on day today is more along the lines of
primary host and editor in chief And oh no, and that that
That encompasses a lot of different things like today I was actually on set for an entire shoot that I participated in only minimally
Just as a training exercise for a couple of hosts one of whom was relatively
Uh inexperienced still and you know, they just wanted me to
Yeah, I thought that was really cool because the goal has always been to be a real company that isn't just
A youtuber and his band of merry men, you know and some women even these days
Um, you got that picture for you to be a real company, right? And part of being a real company is succession
I am not going to be young and hip and cool
Well, ever but um, I'll be even less young and less hip and less cool tomorrow than I was yesterday
What do you mean? I know that's not very narcissistic. I know I know well
What happened there? Well, it's almost oh no
Okay, do you want to see the picture? Let's look at the picture. I sent Elijah
What I can't Here can you zoom in Dan? I can show us. Can you show us my filter?
For my pool. So those are your pool filters? Yeah
That's the smallest sand I think I've ever seen those are not cheap
Anyway Anyway, what a guy. What a guy. What a guy, but yeah, anyway, so pool bot video
Uh, basically, uh, I'm sorry
But I'll do it again Yeah
Well, I like a full disclosure, right? Full disclosure
We are fully disclosing everything that we're doing and if you want to watch a review
We have that and if you want to watch a showcase of a pool robot We have that and we labeled it very clearly and we put it on a day when you were going to get other content anyway
So which is like Pretty sick. I
Stack the content. Yep I'm sorry
About the overuse of blur I I yeah, I was skimming through it. It was a little egregious sometimes
I get it But you got to do that once an experience and then go, okay, we can what are the things we can do about it next time
But sometimes there's well, there's new factors new areas that we didn't anticipate needing to blur
So it is what it is. Got it. I mean I've
We have actually talked internally for years and years and years about just buying a house
That is like a filming house Like the old days except except we don't actually operate the company there. We just use it as a filming set
Anyone close to here would be kind of I my
My main objection to it is that we are taking a house off the market that someone could live in
Which like blows Oh, like shouldn't matter if we made enough houses
But we don't but we don't so it does matter. We don't make enough houses. That's so and by we I don't mean like us personally
I mean like we collectively here in the area that we live
What if you built one? um That was like a set house
That's still a piece of residential zoned property that another developer almost certainly would have built a house on
Could you build a set house on non residential zoned property? I bet so
Oh my god, okay. Now. I don't want to spend that kind of money on a house that no one will ever live in so separate problem
um I mean nothing's impossible, but it wouldn't have like a pool like it wouldn't be like a proper house
It would have to be more like a set It has to have a pool to be a proper house. Well, no, I wouldn't help us with pool robots
Are you fair now you need a house with like four pools so one can be getting dirty in your pool
Yeah
A dirty pool factory robot race four-way race we need four pools
Yeah, you couldn't possibly have them clean the pool one at a time in serial it takes too long
Um, okay, what are we supposed to be talking about? Uh, some other topic
Let's see. How about we do uh good guy moves from companies
We asked we asked you guys last week to come up with some good guy moves from companies for an upcoming LTT
And I thought we were going to be pretty led on topics this week So I thought hey, we'd highlight some of the really good ones that you guys have come up with already
Dan if you want to post the reddit thread so if people could add more to them that would be awesome
um And so yeah, I want to highlight some of the cool ones you guys came up with and also
Solicit more examples of good guy moves from companies. So here's a few really good ones. This is from real train
Bittersweet one, but google's handling of the stadia shutdown
They refunded every game purchase and unlocked the proprietary controllers allowing them to be used as generic bluetooth and wired controllers
That was a good guy move. That was cool. That was actually legitimately cool
gimmick music one says for all the people give nintendo
When the we you had such atrocious sales the executives at nintendo all took pay cuts
So they would not need to lay anybody off. I reference this often
It's a decision that has stuck with me even today in the grand scheme of triple a gaming
I don't think that nintendo has ever implemented mass layoffs like sony ea or microsoft etc
yes And flakfreak says microsoft of all companies still developing balancing and supporting age of empires two since
1999 And doing it on steam not microsoft store. It's a smaller example, but it's a pretty cool one
I'm surprised microsoft didn't get in there for their accessibility controllers, but I will also might have that's just a few examples
the we you thing happened in like I don't know the we you launched in 2012. So i'm assuming 2013 and google stadia was announced to be shut down in 2022
So when we dug down for examples of companies doing good things, we had to oh, I already closed them
I'll be looked over span of a decade. Yeah. Well, give the community time. They're gonna find more stuff. Yeah
They're gonna do it. They're gonna do it. There is other more recent examples. I'm just saying
All right What else we got? Oh shoot
Lots of topics. I accidentally collapsed a few of my like backup topics here. So i'll leave that one open
Um, oh, I see. I'm gonna call out. Yeah, I'm gonna move them for you guys. Oh my goodness. Let's just do that one now
Oh, oh, it's gone. Oh my goodness Dan, oh, you're killing me. Okay fine fine. Where is it now?
Oh, what happened? Why is the rtx 50 60 one?
Ah good old doc. I'm gonna I'm gonna put it above. It's just under main topics. Oh, okay
Let's just do it now Thank you. Daniel Besser do what now these topics talking about the mic challenges. Well, no, we still have other topics
We have like two we have like seven more topics. Oh, do any of them matter 30?
HP agrees to a settlement over claims of falsely advertising pc and keyboards
Um, they're paying four million dollars after a class action complaint accused the pc maker of showing
Misleading original pricing for various computer mouse and keyboard products on their website
Among the claims, uh, the suit alleged that hp.com advertised an aio printer on sale for $899
And claimed the customer would save $100 instantly
Though the printer had not been advertised for $999 for more than six months
Permasale Is that a thing permasale? It's well, that's what I call it. What's the what's the like?
What's the maximum end of how long you can have a sale on for that's what fun fact?
That's why ncix had a weekly special. Yeah. Yeah where you'd have the same item in the weekly special and there would be a few hours
In between the weekly special every week
That's so much better so that you could have hard drives on sale always
But they would not be in violation of any of these laws. There was a significant period of my life where I
I went meticulously through every single ncx weekly sale. Oh, me too. Yeah hondo p. Yeah
Um, anyway, hp isn't admitting any fault or liability
But the settlement will see the original complainants. Um, we'll get them up to $5,000 each
Which along with lawyer fees will come out of the four million dollar settlement pool
While class members will receive 10 to 100 dollars depending on the product purchased
And this is why I look at class actions. I'm just like, okay. That was
Really good use of time for so anyone other than the lawyer who was involved. Hey, how are all those honey lawsuits going?
Who knows who knows and I don't think anyone cares anymore
Has beg a leg even like you were a much more interesting target than honey. I think I yeah, I think so the internet. Yeah, I think so
Um forget that company. I found an individual
Um, what is this EU thinks of children and takes action against harmful practices and videos? Yeah, this is cool
What is this after a complaint by the swedish consumers association the consumer protection corporation network
Cpc has taken action against Star stable entertainment ab makers of the massively multiplayer star stable online
Can you call it massively multiplayer if I've never heard of it and luke's never heard of it for pc and mac
And the star stable horses app for Android and iOS. I suspect that's more
I'll be working on this for now and you do fantastic. It's a horse game
Anyway carry on carry on. Wow the graphics are oh, I think I've I've heard of this. This is
Obscenely popular. Oh It's it's like girlies crack
Oh, that makes sense Yeah, that makes sense why we probably haven't heard of it right
Yeah, I love how the the hair on the horse is like amazing
Yeah, well you carry on Perfect. Um, yeah, so they have yeah
MMO for pc and mac and they have star stable horses app for Android and iOS
The cpc identified a number of practices that violate EU consumer protection regulations
Which could be harmful to children including direct appeals to children in advertisements
The use of pressuring techniques such as purchase through time limited practices a lack of clear and transparent information
And failure by the company to ensure that the influencers promoting their products clearly disclose commercial content. Ah, yes
Classic uh star stable entertainment has one month to respond with a plan to address these issues
Discussion question. What do you think of this seemingly very cooperative approach to enforcement?
Um I don't know. It seems cool
I don't have a ton to say to that Um by cooperative do they mean the two different organizations teaming up because that happens elsewhere as well
I've seen that before Um, I think it can make sense though. Often it's resource sharing and stuff like that
Um discussion question could star stable replace tape to tape as Linus's go-to game
I Jordan says I made you an account. It's under the LTT
In the password manager download here You're just playing in the browser. Do you want the more full fad experience? I
I can keep doing topics and you can my experience has already got enough
You're not even through the character creator. Are you? No, i'm not. Oh, but you've got you've got an account. I feel like you got to download it
Uh, I really don't think I do. I think this is important content for wanshow
Don't think I do. I feel like you're doing a disservice to the people
Um by not getting a ribbon or something. Anyway, the eu seems to be figuring out things
Pretty good for the most part. This seems like another positive step in my opinion
Even though he didn't do it, jordan, I appreciate that you set up an account for him and everything
I think it was valuable Um
Open ai is doing something probably horrible. Open ai is developing an early stage thing that sucks
Kate sounds good. Um Intel investigating arc performance with older cpus. What is it?
Open ai wants to build a social app basically cool
Yeah, no, it's super old news, but Intel's finally acknowledged and they are investigating the CPU overhead issues
With running arc gpus on older Intel and AMD cpus
So Yeah, they're gonna be all sad because we brushed over that topic. It's not that we don't think the topic is important
Yeah, it's important. Whoever wrote this it's
It's just so gross. I like I don't want to talk about it. Open ai is a thing. Yeah. Yeah
Either way, they want to make an app and then you can share your generated images on it so you can
show your Ghibli drawings to other people that you didn't draw
Sick and they can look at it and show you there are things that they didn't draw in other good news
Blue origin practices sending millionaires to space for when the world ends. Maybe
They're ns 31 flight launched on april 14th and made headlines for being an all-female crew
The voyage was just under 11 minutes long and stirred up lots of controversies ranging from
Outrage that celebrities are going to space to even claims that the flight was faked
Yep Celebrities included pop star katie parry broadcast journalist gale king philanthropist lauren sanchez
Philanthropist, okay, so wife of jeff bezos and film producer happy you reacted to that
karyan flim The other two members included former nasa rocket scientist aisha bow and bioastronautics research scientist amanda newian
Some i'm not even going to talk about the theories that it's fake. They're really stupid. Um
It's just filming stuff and timing. Yeah, don't worry about that door was open already because they had to make sure they were okay
Oh fiance not wife. Yeah, thank you. Um, whatever. Okay, so do people hate katie parry now?
Like why do people hate katie parry? I I don't actually know. I literally don't don't know and honestly
deeply Fundamentally to my core don't care. She's fake
They turned on her they married. Oh, she married russell brand. Is she still rustle married to russell brand?
Oh Yeah, he's an idiot
Uh No, they broke up
Dude, they broke up. We're married from 2010 to 2012. What are you even talking about nothing to do?
Yeah, that all that's all that's such a lame reason
There's not there's no way there's no way because they liked her way after that
There's there's no way I don't believe it. Um
I don't know man people people seem to
Her new song was terrible. I think she collaborated with some
Guy that people don't like on it or something Worked with this shady dj. Yeah, she collaborated with some guy and they didn't like that guy
Okay, I mean there's maybe something there
Anyway, yeah, people seemed like really mad that she went to space and some people seem especially mad that like celebrities
Like went to space just because they're celebrities, but I got to be honest with you guys like
I'd do it the thing if they offered to send tech tips man to space
Questionably and and like if we're if we're having real talk right now
You'd do it. Yeah, I wouldn't blame katie perry for this one. Yeah, sorry
Oh something to consider as well about these people is you're mad about the stuff that you see
Like trust me. There's so many things you don't see
uh And like the whole reason that you're seeing it and talking about it at all
Is because they did this with celebrities if they had only sent the scientists. No one would even know this apparently is oh
Hold on. No, this is definitely not footage that we can just use on WAN Show, but uh, we can watch it
Uh, jeff bezos apparently face plants as part of the the whole thing
Like on purpose. No, I don't think so Haha
Sorry
It's pretty funny not it's pretty funny
Anyone falling is funny. It's just I don't know. It's funnier when it's a billionaire. Yeah. Yeah
So it was funny, but he did catch himself to be clear. I don't I don't actually know enough about jeff bezos to like hate him hate him
He's just a billionaire to me. I don't think he's seems much worse than other billionaires
I could be mistaken about that. How much money do you think he made in the time that he lost his balance and then hit the ground?
That's gonna keep me up tonight
Only about two or three seconds, but like that's gotta be like an annual salary for someone. Yeah, like for sure. I'll be multiple
Yeah, that hurts
Anywho Yeah, people are upset because the door opened before Bezos went and like did the turn the crank thing
I think it was for filming reasons. I suspect they opened the door like right away to
Make sure that they were chill. I haven't looked into it almost at all
But I'm just assuming that the second they were like, oh, they opened the door and then they closed it and they opened it
ceremoniously I was like, yeah Red tape and filming this is like yeah a thing like this may surprise you
But when we do our grand opening party at smash champs in a couple of months the mayor is gonna cut a ribbon
Smash champs was already open. Yeah for like a while. Yeah
It's okay. It's okay. It's alright. It's it's yeah, it's performative and that's that's okay sometimes
Yeah, I don't know the whole story. There might be other things behind it I don't know but the the like a little bit of the clip that I saw
I'm like they open the door and then he goes and like kind of waves at them and closes the door again
And he's like, uh, it looks like he's like, oh, no, no, no, we need the door closed still
We're gonna get the shot and then he closes the door. Yeah, it's like Okay, yeah, there's probably stuffy in there and they wanted to open the door whatever
Who knows? All right What are we doing?
Great warehouse product sightings roundup. It's been a lot of it. Oh, yeah, this is pretty cool
John Gadget featured the LTT screwdriver and precision driver in a tools and everyday carry roundup
He likes spoiler. He likes both. So this is pretty cool
I'm only gonna show a little bit of one of them. Oh my god
I'm only gonna show a little bit of one of them because I want y'all to go watch the video
Here you go. Oh, look at that. Look at that. Hey, that's my that's me
That's me. Hey look hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hey look a narcissist
Okay, hold on LTT screw. Wow. He actually actually talked about the screwdriver for a really long time. Wow
That's uh That's super cool
And then here's a precision screwdriver. All right, cool. Yeah, so guys Dan's gonna link all of these videos
Thanks, Dan LTT screwdriver also appeared in Mr. Who's the Bosses video testing youtuber products. By the way, we low-key
Killed it What?
What? That's so cool. That's pretty sick. Yeah, he gave us a nine and a half
Nine and a half. We were the highest scoring
YouTuber product nobody got a ten. Nobody got a ten. So I was I was pretty pleased with that
The commuter backpack was reviewed by Aaron at nomads nation
It's a 21-minute review that gives a great look at most of the features of the bag
He especially likes the sleek style and the design of the tech compartment
Yeah, I guess I'm I guess I'm like doing this for all of them. Okay. Well, there you go
There's the thumbnail. You guys are gonna have to you're gonna have to watch these videos I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take away the joy of watching the videos and then okay, William Ozzman
Ended up with a very cursed
flesh-toned silicone LTT driver his pain machine video screw driver
Yeah, so this one-of-a-kind LTT flesh driver was made by Sebastian from CW
It was unsanctioned It was after hours and he presented it to William at open sauce last year
Seb said he made the abomination because it was a terrible thing to make and William would enjoy it
He made the mold from a production screwdriver so that he could get the texture right
You will have to do that yourself if you want one of these because we are not selling them no matter how much
you beg
That is horrible have you have you held it no this shouldn't exist you gotta check out you got to check out them
It is one of the worst things. It's so I feel like I feel like it in his hand would need to be blurred here
Can I can I show this part of the video? Yeah, just show it
Watch he'll show it like he'll he squeezes it when you see him pull it so you can tell it's like flexible
That's why I call it the screwdriver I want to do his and hers
That is horrible Neat anyway, finally
It's not that's gonna be a whole thing. Oh boy sound of the bit compartment. Can we get sound real quick? Oh, yeah, sure Luke
Yeah, whatever you want to play it. Whenever you ready, okay?
Is anyone else's LTT screwdriver like this it's got like
Skin are they yanking my balls just mushy. I don't want to say what it feels like I'm grabbing listen
Last week I figured out I was being charged
Oh
That video in general is actually extremely interesting by the way, it's really cool
It's all about having Like cold hot cold hot and it tricks you into thinking that you're like burning
Because of the it's too close for your nerves or something he explains it all in the video
But it's it's actually a really really cool video. I would suggest checking it out. It's all you're never making that product
During work hours ever during no, I don't care
I don't want to know I don't want people to put an LTT logo there during work hours. That's fair
But it would sell like crazy. No
No Okay
Bootleg market finally, it's not a creator warehouse product, but it is something we built
Doug DeMiro gave an update on his Lambo racing rig
It finally arrived and it sounds like they managed to beat the tariffs
But his team ran into a bit of trouble reassembling it because of whiskey
Doug plans to have visitors set lap times in the rig and maintain a leaderboard
So he responded to that here so you guys can go check that out for him as well
Okay, I am We're getting there. What was done? Oh a discussion question. What's the coolest LTT product sighting you've had?
I mean for me, I think the most fun ones are when I see someone wearing the hoodie or the backpack and I walk up and I'm just like
Nice hoodie or like Nice backpack and then I keep moving and they don't realize who I am me too. I actually love that
Yeah, I love playing that game I don't know if it's because they just bought the product because I think it's a good product
They have no idea what LTT is or like me personally or if they just like were taken aback or didn't recognize me out of that
Context or whatever. I don't care. Why I just I love it. I love just being like hey
I often think they they legitimately probably don't know who I am so I'm not on camera as much anymore
But I just take that as an opportunity to be like, I don't know
It is nice and it looks good on them. So I will tell them. It's fine
Yeah, trade war escalates but stuff sucks I
Don't know trade war continues to ramp up and video expects 5.5 billion in losses AMD expects 800 million in losses
Chip export license restrictions to China smartphones semiconductors and consumer electronics are temporarily exempt from reciprocal tariffs
But it's still subject to a 20% tariff. That's because as far as I can tell
Tim Apple went to went to orange guy and was like, please don't and then he was like, okay, cool
Other products now face up to 245 percent because numbers don't even matter anymore in stacks tariffs
Combining multiple rounds from both Trump and Biden administrations in retaliation
China has suspended exports of key rare earth metals and magnets
Potentially disrupting everything from aerospace to gaming peripherals NVIDIA has reaffirmed its
$500 billion commitment to US production with blackwell chips being manufactured at TSMC's Arizona fab
Sony has hiked ps5 prices again in Europe. I don't know how that makes any sense
Australia and New Zealand as game consoles reportedly aren't exempt from apparently that's to blend
Their costs across all the regions So they're absorbing some of the cost of the tariffs by having consumers pay more worldwide
That's interesting because they don't do it the other way around
Switch to keeps its $449 price launch price, but accessories like joy cons and pro controllers are going up about five bucks
Which seems low to be honest US consumers are turning to Chinese shopping apps like DH gate and Taobao
Which are now topping the app store charts as people try to buy direct and dodge
Heavy markup platforms like Xi'an and Timu. I don't think that's gonna work
Bruh, it'll work for now For like a little bit. Yeah. Well, I talked about how people are apparently like stocking up hard on non-essentials. Yeah fair. Yeah, yeah
Yeah, I've had people being reaching out saying like I'm worried that my computer isn't gonna make it
I won't be able to forward it on the other end. I can technically afford it now So I'm gonna jump now just to give you some idea Luke of the absolute
Like insanity of what we're seeing right now
Our net sales for our Q2 of 2024 so for those of you not familiar with the Q system
We're 18 days into Q2 it goes from April to the end of June beginning of April end of June
Our numbers for Q2 of last year
Are slightly lower what we have done in the last 18 days
Slightly lower
What Obviously people like shipping promos and it's not wondering why we have a promo on lttstore.com
Where over a hundred fifty dollars you get free shipping anywhere in the world by now
MCM is discounted. So obviously the margins are a little lower a lot lower
This time around so it's not actually like from a profit standpoint. That's not that's not how it works
Yeah, but a big part of it is also
just People knowing like okay if if tariffs at you know potentially hundreds of percent
Do go into effect on May the 2nd Costs are going to go up in a very substantial way on items that are manufactured overseas
Particularly in China. So if I want something that's made in China, which like a lot of things are
Now's the time to get on it. Yeah
All right, do you do you want to I think
These are interesting topics these go next week probably we could do these next week
I'm I'm really excited to collab with badminton insight, but I think we've already kind of talked about that
Oh, have we talked about how nerd sports is coming back?
Dan do you know nerd sports is getting a new episode. I think now it's official. Okay, we're doing it
So the pro players that we're going to be playing against are
going to be Greg and Jenny from badminton insight who recently reached the semi-finals at the all England open
Which is kind of a big deal badminton tournament. They put on the performance of a lifetime in front of the home crown home crowned
Freaking slip a home crowd In England and they're coming out here to do a tour of the facility and they will also be shooting nerd sports with us
David who had was the genius behind our last couple of April Fool's videos
Fantastic, it's going to be the writer producer for most recent scraphead wars the budget's a little lower on this one because Channel Super Fun
Doesn't make money, but I think we did find a sponsor. So we are making it work
We're giving it a little bit of resources So we're doing one more, you know lost hurrah episode of nerd sports, and I'm actually really excited
I will not be playing for the keyboard warriors though. Who's playing this time?
I am too good at badminton. Yeah, it makes you properly be like a joes against pros player who's playing
I don't oh should I reveal it? Oh, I don't know. I think
We could talk about it next week. I'm I think the plan is to have four play
You know, it's really late to bother David. I'm not gonna bother David. I was interested, but I never got tapped
I think it's to have four players
And they'll tag team They'll tag team out. Oh
And we have some fresh we have some really great challenges for the pros David and I were there
Yesterday, I think it was and I was trying a lot of the challenges for myself. So
Greg and Jenny might watch this so I don't want them to know what's coming, but you don't want to spoil it for
Yeah, I want to spoil it for anybody, but we have some fun interesting
Challenges nice exciting
And I'm really excited sweet there. That's it. That's all I have to say about that very cool
I'm always told being let's like a box of chocolates. I might I might show up and hang out in the premium section just watch
Okay We're not allowing spectators in general, but I'll make a one exception for Luke because he helped us configure our gym
He's allowed in the gym whenever he wants actually put a lot of work into it and our gym is super nice
I guess so many compliments on our gym people come up to me tears in their eyes. It's this is the greatest gym
I've ever seen your gym
Beautiful beautiful gym. It's wide. It's wide
It's pretty yeah, it's pretty good. Okay. I'm yeah, let's let's switch after dark. I still wish I had a green chair
Let's do it after dark time
Maybe one day well look how fast a good cop
You should get his fingers warmed up with lots of merch messages every week
Is that it Dan is that what's going on? No, this is the flow it made a little bit more sense tonight
I think a couple weeks ago. You're just like now. We're not doing any of these. Okay. When after dark I was scrambling
You could see this you the day new ma, right? We got it. We got to do a better job than we got to make it more chaotic
Yeah, I might my life's too easy and I'm not stressed enough. Yeah
Hi guys I've been living in Canada for almost two years coming from Brazil you guys
Thought me a lot about Canadian culture. You taught me a lot about Canadian culture
What in each of you or your three opinions is the most unique Canadian thing?
Man, it's it's a super Canadian thing to like not give a f*** about your Canadianness. I
Don't know if that's unique to us, but it's just it is in stuff. It is so
Contrastful with our southern neighbors that like you can like you can actually drive
You know through a town in Canada and See Canadian flags like only on government buildings
That's the norm. Yeah, we don't we don't do that changing a little bit
But it has actually changed quite a bit. Yeah
Yeah, we've never been patriotic and now we are yeah, it's very I wouldn't say we've never been patriotic
I'd say in our adult lifetimes. It's kind of faded to a significant degree that doesn't necessarily mean that
We don't value our sovereignty. It just means that
Like I don't know. I think we're just kind of chill about it I feel like we see ourselves very much as members of the world instead or instead of
Aspirational members of the world because the reality of it is fair enough kind of not that relevant
There are a lot of the time but the like only reason why we're included a lot of stuff is because we were included in the big war that
Established a lot of stuff Not because our economy is like strong or we're particularly influential. Yep
We built an ARM for some cool thing that floats around the world. That's pretty neat. I was pretty cool. Yep
What what was exactly the base question is like unique most unique Canadian thing
For me, it's always been our one road. Yeah, our one road. That's pretty good
Yeah, that's that South Park episode where they joke about the only road in Canada
Just follow the only road like that actually like is a thing. That's true. That's my favorite highway number one
Yeah, we only have one is is the the one like federal highway that actually goes through every province
And it doesn't even go through the territories. So there are parts there
There are times when like a bridge along that road will will fall into disrepair and
Get across Canada Trucks and stuff will have to drive down into the states and cross the border to come back part of it is also a very
Yeah, there's there's no way to get across it and part of it is is actually a boat. Yeah, have you ever taken the highway one boat?
I've heard of it, but I haven't taken it. Yeah crazy. Yeah, dumb country. That's a good example
I don't know I think we're the only Orton's Tim Hortons is trash and owned by a Brazilian conglomerate
I was just gonna say I think we're the only country in the world that has a very strong argument for
nationalizing a fast food chain Yeah, I think Canada needs to as a country needs to buy Tim Hortons and make it not suck again because it like
Actually, I think it should like offend our country that a thing that was genuinely a defining part of our country
Which it absolutely was it isn't anymore, but it absolutely was and it sucks
And it's bad now and people still remember that and will come to Canada excited to try Tim Hortons and then be like
Wow, this is bad and Canada sucks and Canadians have no taste. Yes. Yeah, those things actually get associated together. It's crazy
It's a It we we as there maybe there's some other solution, but we should not have allowed it to become bad
I think that's a uniquely Canadian thing is any time a company gets big enough
It can no longer be Canadian by law. It seems being listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange is like
Trashed here to not become good and being being owned by
Basically, you get so big that when it's time to sell
No other Canadian entity can afford to buy you anymore
So you just sell to an international conglomerate and then that's why the major companies in Canada are mostly
Internationally owned there are a handful of exceptions Shopify would be one but I don't know how long they're gonna be hanging around
Yeah, Bombardier would be another one Hudson Bay Company. Yeah, well
Everyone in Canada has kind of known. Yeah rip ATI
ATI yeah, a big side one. Well in Nortel a little bit different of a rip, but still yeah, I
Think everyone up here is known that Hudson's Bay Company was going away for a long
Oh, yeah, I mean, I haven't set foot in one in my adult life that I can remember so long enough
Why would you yeah, I'm a major shame. I'm amazed they've lasted as long as they did. Yeah
That's right, I think the hub is Canadian
Well, yeah, a major company. I mean, they're a major company. You can't deny it. Oh, yeah, they're Canadian that hub
Yeah, yeah, North Vancouver. I think it came up a lot recently about when you know when we were supporting Canadian companies. Yeah
Wait What you're there from North Vancouver. No, no, they're back east. That's they are A&W
Their headquarters is in North Vancouver. Yeah. Oh, yeah, A&W Canada confused so much. I'm sorry a completely different company from A&W USA
I was desperate for food and I was in the States and I got a team burger to A&W. It was inedible. It was completely
Disgusting. Yeah, I would say that if you want to have Canadian fast food these days if you come to Canada and you're like, okay
What's like good Canadian fast food? Go to A&W. There isn't a lot. Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's pretty much it get a Costco poutine
Actually one of the best in Canada Costco counts. Yeah dead anti-social says the American A&W used to be good like 20 years ago
Yeah, it's trash now. It's so bad. Oh
Yeah, triple O's triple O's is good Canadian fast food as well. Those are actually darn good burgers. You might have a harder time finding them
Yeah, that's Western Canada, so yeah, that's why I didn't really bring them up, but that is a good point
We'll give them that. All right Hit me Dan
Hi, Ong I've Anne. This is a speed type comment
My employer recently hit the big 100. What kind of achievements do you hope to have if LMG lasts that long?
Also, hi Vod me. Well, the achievements won't be mine personally because I'll be long dead
So there's that your tech you're original people at the company would be gone
Yeah, so I would I would hope that LMG doesn't lose its soul. I would hope that it's still a cool place to work
I would hope that, you know, we still have a culture of like kicking butt and working hard
I would hope that we do a good job of both competing hard in the tech media space
But also Building a collaborative atmosphere and environment with our competitors
What else would be on the list?
I would kind of hope that they still haven't taken outside investment
Hmm interesting. How does that work though? Because there'd have to be succession of some sort
Do we do we go monarchy like what do you what are you thinking here?
What if they started buying up other companies ah
Man M&A is not really like
My jam we've always been like a grind it out and make it from the ground which honestly is kind of stupid
Yeah, I think about it Yeah, I don't know
I don't know and I don't know how that works necessarily
I think the main thing is I wouldn't want like a conglomerate, right
Yeah, so at the very least maybe we could manage like a small ownership group. I don't know I think I have no idea
I I can't claim to have the answer, but I
mean, I guess I I'm gonna have to figure out the answer at some point at some point because there's only so many exit strategies, right?
like you can sell you can
You can convert to like like a co-op you can
What else can you do you can shut down very popular one right now, which is something that you like half did
Which is you get a new CEO and then you just retain all ownership and just take reports once a year and don't do anything with the
Won't help us hit a hundred. I'll die so someone's gonna have to own the company at some point
Yeah, but yeah, you said exit strategy that is a thing. Oh sure sure sure sure sure I mean I meant like from ownership, right
Anyone else thinking? Oh, yeah pass on to kids
That's one. So that's the monarchy route. That's the monarchy route. Yep. I don't know if any of your kids
Could be a paper my son asked to do a video and
I gave him the least glamorous assignment possible to see if he actually cares and
He appears to be working on a review of the new Kindle color. I
Really couldn't think of anything less glamorous. That's pretty not glamorous than a Kindle e-reader
Yeah, but he is asking a lot of the right questions And I'm guiding him a little bit, but I'm not doing any work for him
And it is a product that he genuinely uses like the old paper white
So I was planning on actually doing the video myself because I just wanted the new Kindle color because it looked cool
And so I grabbed the new paper white and I grabbed the color and I was like well
I'll work on this in my spare time So I made some notes and I passed those along to him as well as giving him some ideas for where he could look for
Information other professional reviewers customer reviews his own thoughts
Making sure not to plagiarize any of that and to compile it into, you know, his own thoughts and I
Told him that if he comes up with a script for it
That I would help him that I would help him review it and that he could host part of it
So who knows who knows that's kind of cool. We'll see I
Do you think it's go public was another exit strategy?
Do you think it's something he's intrinsically interested in or do you think he's struggling to find things that are interested in and is doing a
Fairly classic maneuver of I'll do what dad does Hard to say he definitely because
Kids young. Oh, yeah, he's young. He might just be playing around like I just totally fair. I was way
less Driven to do anything when I was his age then he appears to be I mean
I didn't try to do anything that my dad did even yet. He's got some of on. Yeah. Oh, definitely. Yeah, he's like
But he's the 50 50 and then the next one is mine
And the next one is Yvonne's
Like we just kind of the the preschool teacher who had all of them
So I think there's only one teacher. No, there's actually two now
but before there was there was one teacher who got all of them for preschool and
About a week into my youngest's first term
I'm dropping her off in the morning and she kind of goes you kind of pulls me says boy. Did you ever get a variety pack?
Yes, we did yes, we did
Okay I'm a dev I work on my own projects, but I feel like I'm running out of time
But I'm afraid about going live or selling How did you deal with anxiety of starting running and maintaining LTT?
Nike Just do it. Oh, no, never mind. I thought you're making a running joke. Nope. Nope. Just you just do it ship it
We don't really
Spend much time in pre-production for anything
That's not fair. I'm gonna mean what do you mean? That's not we do you guys spent a lot of time in pre-production for air table
Months That's a lot of time six. Yeah, there boom boom. He's got nothing. I definitely have stuff
Founding you can talk about whatever you want. It's a free country
It was one person Reconstructing the entire communication and process system for the entire company six months was not enough
It would have it could have either taken more time or more people, but we had a point
We had a point where it was like the value proposition of continuing to spend time on this doesn't really fit how you said
Time not man hours objectively. I am correct six months
Objectively man hours is not the term anymore of time that this is true, but you understood me and the point of language
CW does that's fair. Yeah, they really do think they're the only ones they spent three years in pre-production of a screwdriver
This be real clearly. We ain't rushing them
All right, so the website is the worst. I mean, I think that you just got a
Okay, you don't want to do reputational damage by launching something that's not ready
You also have to just get stuff out there, but you also yeah, you have to ship is it usable
Yeah, will it be useful for anyone? Will it be worth the asking price for anyone if the answer is yes, then don't oversell it
Say what it is say who it's for and as you continue to refine it
You can say what more it is and what more people it's for and you can grow from there
Maybe I don't know what your product is. So you want you want a big spike of inspiration get those first user tickets coming in
Yeah, get it in front of people and see if people care at all because if they don't that's good to know stop working on it
Stop wasting your time Yeah, but if they do and then they're like, oh man, this is cool
Doesn't really work because of X and Y reasons, but it's cool Then you can fix X and Y reasons and then keep going. What is the new term for man hours people hours human hours?
I think it's labor resource. Oh, stop it. I
Mean, that's my favorite. I've generally said people hours people hours. Okay, so what if dogs working on it?
Being hours that would be part of labor resource organism hours
That's close, but yeah
Feels like kind of a basic thing to call it though
Oh age
Work hours Work hours work. That makes more sense. The problem with work hours is a lot of people associate it with
An individual. Yeah, and de is illegal really say so it's man hours now
And they cost 30% more
They give me 245% more. Oh, I like billable hours
Billable hours is pretty good, but it's generally in a contracting sense. I like labor
You don't generally Afa says if a dog's a Labrador it could be lab
And if a dog's a shitsuit could be shit hours, I mean, oh, I don't need to bleep that cuz it's a dog
It's a dog. It's not a swear word. It's a dog. And if you tell me I need to bleep it. That's poppycock. I
Don't think most people are gonna understand that this is like actually a word what poppycock, isn't it?
Well, you act like they've never seen a titmouse before
Or just a tit
Or a bony-ass fish
Human capital, thanks, that's great too human capital is pretty good human labor resource suffering capital
How many hours in the wagey cage does this
Hasn't converted you to a salary employee yet with no overtime
No, this is my Corpo training showing
We took courses on abusing employees and you can only be in a wagey cage if you're getting an hourly wage
He's he's getting You've been paying I'm an hourly plenty of overtime. Oh, no, I know I meant you're not oh, yeah
Yeah, I'm not paying for as of like three or four hours ago. I think. Oh, yeah, whatever. Yeah
I like on average work like 12 to 14 hours on Fridays alone
Yeah, I didn't work a 14 hour day today just because of other reasons
Yeah, that's what he's currently on that grind. Yeah, boy. It's fun. I mean you guys do it watch him
I think I've been have I ever gotten overtime. I think I've been sorry forever. Did I uh, hold on not realistic
I don't know If it ever happened, it wasn't real. Yeah
Yeah, truthfully, I don't know I don't think so I doubt it because who
Who would have logged in? Yeah, you should join a union
The other thing is if you if you follow the standard rules
Then you like context you wouldn't be allowed to work
That time that Luke got cancelled instead of me
There's a long story behind that don't worry about it
Should I explain it I can explain it I Don't care. I worked at one union job. I just like that you're cancelled instead of me
You should He's not gonna let me now. Yeah, I worked at one union job ever
The job was fine. The people I worked with at the plant was fine. It was it was a bread factory
My brother had worked there previously and a lot of the workers there that knew him were were very cool with me
They liked my brother, but the union rep hated him
Hated him so the union rep took it out on me. I can't imagine why anyone would ever get into it with your brother
To be clear about love rich
But I could imagine that I understand it it's almost like the LaFrenier boys
Being a little hot headed in common. I was gonna say I understand it because I understand it for me as well
We are somewhat alike in that way
But yeah, and he would take it out on me by by just screwing with me with schedule
Because the union rep set the schedule and it was like a war and my actual boss man guy at work couldn't do anything about it
And it was super annoying Luke Nukem the union buster. I'm not a union buster at all
my brother was in the Teamsters union when he worked for the movies and
That sounded and seemed pretty cool And now he's in the firefighters union and the firefighters union is amazing. Yeah, if you can get in yeah, but there does appear to be
Some potentially union related factors that make it very difficult to get in that's also a problem. There's that yes
What Luke is trying to say is that they are not perfect? No, there's ups and downs and they have they there's points in history where like oh dear
God if they didn't exist things would have been bad, but they're not they're not always universally good
Anyways More
Why not? Hey, LTD and first time buyer greetings from Mexico sup what percentage of orders do you guys get from Latin American countries?
The last time I got one of your products was the original gangster screwdriver from Amazon nice
That is a good question. I do not know I
Can tell you that right now there are 155 visitors on the site there are at least
three of them in a Mexico
To in Brazil currently visiting you're talking about yeah on the site right now
Those are the Latin company companies countries. I am most familiar with
No one else in anywhere in South America though
Part of that's probably The almost almost nothing in Europe right now, but I think that's quite time zone related because Europe and Australia usually light up
Pretty good when there's a lot of people on the site. Yeah, they were earlier in the show. Yeah, that makes sense
Yeah, so I don't know that's that based on a sample size of a hundred fifty a
Few oh one more in Brazil just now the little
The little Shopify dashboard has a little like like a little arrow that comes out from your location to the
To the dot that it makes so if all y'all in Brazil
Okay, if all y'all go to the site right now, it'll be like
To your location in Brazil, so let's see how many Brazilians are watching
How real-time is this? I think it's quite real-time
Il maher was there
Objectively annoying to everyone both sides of the aisle
I
Mean the visitors going up right now is going to like yeah, it's going up
But I don't think any of them are in Brazil. It's no it's a bunch of North Americans. It's oh, there we go. Oh
Okay, well, I don't know the little animation only goes sometimes I don't know if you guys saw that but it went to like
Somewhere in the Eastern United States just now. Oh
Wait, no no no no yeah, there's more dots Yeah, there's more dots, but it didn't make the little pee-pee-pee thing
So there's like I don't know another like seven people see a bunch like down. Yeah, I see it
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, that's also just getting darker. There's also a bunch of people who seem confused
That is not Brazil right there at the top there
That's Peru according to my risk map
Well, I told only the Brazilians. Oh, yeah, and some of these have hair
I
Heard Dan like physically react to that. I just
Nothing Ignore me
Evening whansters question for Luke any updates on setting up the mainline ID
LLM integration for the development team wouldn't the 100k server with its NVIDIA a 100s be the perfect fit for this job
We're just using those new Macs
I think they were just trying to get you to pressure me to buy a $100,000 server. Oh, no, we're just gonna do that which would
No, we're not no no, we're not that would not have worked. Well, however
It could have I don't even have to ask you if Supermicro wanted to like sponsor something or whatever like to ask you lend us one
What do you mean you don't have to ask me? I thought it's hard to tear it. What is your approval limit?
I would talk to Terry. No, I think that's above his approval limit You have to go to the shareholders at a certain point. Does he have an approval 100,000 up?
I actually need to write this down if you do give me a number. Yeah, because I'm working on that right now
Yeah, there's like a good little automations and stuff. Yeah, are you just calling them?
Karen, I don't mind bugging supposed to do meetings about this
Billable hours nice all right
Then he has to do time off in Lou. Hey, you're live on the WAN Show
Yeah, yeah, it's every Friday
Yeah, you should probably know that if you like are the CEO of the company you know, it's about the same thing too
So remember I called you before and I was asking about my approval limit for purchase requests
Yeah, yeah, we were talking about that again. What is your approval limit? I
Was just talking to a vulnerable guy yesterday, so you have to go out this week
Okay, but you don't actually know you don't know he didn't have one. I have it as an affinity signal
I got in trouble by the time when we're doing consumer research and you weren't super happy about the amount of money I spent
So the words were I'm okay with a run rate spend anything else
I'd like to be at least consulted even though you have discretion in terms of where you should spend money even though I might disagree
That sounds like something I would say that sounds pretty reasonable. Yeah, okay, and how much was that consumer research that?
Because I refused to say on the show before Which is why he's trying to ask you now. Yeah, I was gonna say it but I had I legitimately just forgot how much it was
So, okay, cool. Well, it's a good thing you dodged that bullet. Make sure you let me know how much that
Pretty good actually, I think you're getting better at this. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Aaron
I'm amazed that they're actually gonna have conversations about that this week. This must have spurred some
Accounting conversations. That's probably after talking to CEDO. Okay, well, we'll have to get you guys an update on that
What gets measured gets managed, right? Yeah, and then automated so nobody ever has to think about it again. Yeah, that's Luke's that's Luke's MO sick
I've adopted that thinking is bad. I hate doing
Terrible should ever think again
Hurtie
Just before anyone freaks out because I feel like we're gonna get canceled for the second time like 10 minutes. No
Not the approach. We're just trying to make it so that people don't have to think about like small meaningless things that don't matter
I have spent six months thinking really hard so that I don't have to think for like five seconds
Yeah, but then you compound that across everyone in the company. Yeah
I was looking for budget laptops and found your video last month
Why did you break budget at the end when the idea originally felt like you were reviewing options for people that can't make enough?
I was looking for budget laptops. Why did you break budget at the end?
Are you talking about the one where we looked at the at the top selling laptops because we didn't have a budget on that one?
We were just looking at the top selling ones And the reason that we included the MacBook was because it was one of the top selling ones
And we thought it was really interesting that it was three or four times the price or whatever it was
and We had you had to go to like the number 25th selling item to find a PC that was priced anywhere near it
So we thought it was really interesting that PC buyers buy these crappy
crappy computers and then Think that PCs kind of suck
But they're willing to spend a decent amount of money on a Mac on like a lot of money on a really nice Mac
And then they're like oh Macs are good, and I just thought that was an interesting conversation. That was
Yeah, I Don't I don't think it was a matter of like breaking breaking budget
We just wanted to talk about that the top selling the most popular laptops
Why they're the top selling most popular laptops in the case of the PCs
It was because they're cheap and we thought it was really interesting that in the case of the Mac
It was for a different reason it was because of the brand value that Apple has built by never
building cheap crappy machines
Well, at least not cheap ones anyway
Yeah Mark my PC cut fire while gaming
Oh, the power cord melted and arched until I got an extinguisher
Couldn't unplug due to the fire and arcing blocking the UPS what causes a cord to melt after nine years power supply exhaust
I would have to imagine The only thing I can think of would be a loose connection
Like if you had a loose connection that could heat up the housing and if the housing heated up and melted enough
That those conductors could get close enough. It could arc
That's the only explanation that springs to mind for me, but I am not an expert
on this
Hmm Hello DLL for Linus whatever happened in the end with your pool contractor
I know the pool is finished, but how did the conversation end the conversation ended with us having paid way too much money
it having taken way too long and
Us basically saying Look, we still owe you a little bit of money not nearly enough for how much work you have outstanding
But we never want to speak to you again. We are not giving you any more money and you are never coming here again
We don't expect warranty coverage because quite frankly, you'd probably break it more anyway. Goodbye
Sounds reasonable for how long that whole thing dragged out like I
Think that's probably the best they could have hoped for we could have sued them
We decided that it was a waste of money and time and we have better things to do
But we would have quite easily gotten a settlement
Because they did stuff that was just brazenly illegal in their billing and stuff
Thanks for the great products
I think Apple Silicon would make better Nintendo gaming devices than the switch to should Apple buy Nintendo
What do you think that would do to Apple gaming? Wow? I was with you there and then you went you were on the rails
And you went I curated this one immediately
No Apple should not buy Nintendo I can't think of any two companies whose cultures are more different and yet
Reach such similar outcomes. Yeah
Tim Marriott the horseshoe problem. They've they both are companies with like wild stocks of cash
Yeah stores of cash. Yeah stockpiles stockpiles of cash
No, no Apple should not buy
That would do nothing for Apple gaming it would continue to be Nintendo gaming
And Apple would continue not caring about gaming. That's another thing Apple would never buy Nintendo as for whether Apple Silicon would make a better
Nintendo gaming device than the switch to I mean that's
There might be an argument there. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think we've seen a
Like for like comparison between NVIDIA's latest GPUs and Apple's now
It's also gonna be really because of DLSS. We really need to see the effects. Yeah
Like it's the switch to is honestly gonna be an incredibly interesting device to evaluate
Despite being not an incredibly interesting device
I'm interested in that one. Why are you so interested in though? It's like the least it's the switch, but like better
Yeah, which is not interesting, but it's everything. That's it's less crappy stuff being less crappy. It's pretty interesting to me in current year
Oh, I feel that hard that hurt
That hurt my soul a little bit. Oh, oh God. Oh, he's so right. We're coming out of six
Is he wrong though About how exciting it was that you can walk into a store and buy a GPU for over MSRP for $10 over MSRP
It's only $10 over price. Oh my goodness. I hate current year. I say that so much
Oh, I want to go home
No
Okay, let's just keep going Hello
LTT I'm curious about your swear policy. What would you classify as quote-unquote bleepable?
I sometimes hear you hear your stream and
Videos say things I thought would have been bleeped out, but ours pretty frequent. I mean mistakes. Yeah, sometimes we just you know
pull a boner And we accidentally don't bleep something that probably should have been bleeped
also the like the rules around swearing are
Sort of nebulous and complicated like South Park did a really funny episode. It hits the fan where
they sort of poked fun at censorship rules and like how it was, you know
Depending on the the usage of the word which we generally do bleep regardless of the usage
It was like, okay. That's right with the sensors or it wasn't depending on whether it was like used as an adjective or
I forget I forget the exact reasons But mr. Garrison like stands on the at the board and sort of explains what you are and what you're not allowed to say
It's also evolved over time Like I and and it's and it's region-specific to like for example over over here
Cuck is generally considered to be like probably bleepable, but maybe not
and then like Dick is like
Some people are like, oh my god, I can't believe I can't believe you didn't bleep
Dick whereas I just kind of I'm like
Yeah, no one cares here so
Yeah, someone in chat said Aussie's in the C word. Yeah. Yeah, like all the C words like like
Yeah, big deal. No, no up here. Yeah, I don't even say it like off-camera. No. Yeah, and then it's
Yeah, so conversation down there. It's just it's just a different like
Societies will determine if they're it's all just noises we make with her face
Societies will determine which ones are cool and which ones aren't yeah So, I mean, you know for us, I'd say, you know the things that
We don't use it all whether the camera's rolling or not, you know, you've got your n-word, right?
Things that we use and bleep, you know, that's you're like you're
You know That sort of thing and things that we just kind of let slide is like you're being a real ass about the situation
Damn it If you add hole to the end of it, it becomes worse and I think yeah, that is bleeped on TV
But just the front section is not but if you say them together, that's really bad. Yeah
That's interesting. I Think that's our current
Censorship laws, I can't quite remember. Oh, yeah chat. That's why I smiled Jay Jay Christo 8 says bollocks and wankers
Would probably never be on British TV, but here it's hilarious. Oh, yeah
It's like funny because bollocks because it sounds so British or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, definitely you swear
And like I wouldn't care at all if it was in my non-native tongue. So like like
You know, like as a French word who cares, right?
All right, carry on
Let's see LDL fixed my son's RC car resoldering parts on the board
He watched and got the spark in quotes of wanting to learn Linus
What is a dad moment where you saw that your kids have that childlike curiosity? Oh, it's been really cool watching the girls
Get really into the 3d printer. I think
They like all of a sudden wanted to like sign up for lessons and like learn computer stuff
Before that they mostly were just like used it as a gaming box. So that was pretty cool
Watching watching little man the
Not just genuinely Deeply curious, but actually like have good questions and seem to like care and want to learn more and get more out of it
Oh, yeah, we attended a tour together. Are we allowed to say where we toured? Yeah. Okay. We went to NASA. Yeah
Luke arranged everything and I
Asked my son because like usually I don't really do vacation
Like I don't go anywhere like when I get time off the thing that I'd rather do more than anything else in the world
It's just sit And do nothing and think about nothing
But in this case Luke invited me out of as a courtesy even though he knew I probably wasn't gonna go and I was like
Oh, that would probably be really interesting for my son. The girls are still a little young for that
I think it would have been a lot for them and I especially think that now that it's done because it was a lot of walking and a
lot of knowledge dumps, but he had an absolute blast and
unintended and Asked so I thought some really salient questions
He did which was surprising to me it demonstrated. He was really paying attention and thinking about it and
You know given how shy he was when he was very very little. It was cool to see him speak up in a group setting
So yeah, lots of moments. I mean as a parent
They're gonna come constantly. There was a bit of trust there too because like
It's not generally a tour you bring kids on like you're not that generally necessarily allowed
because there's areas you're going to that are like
They're not kid friendly. No if you're around it's like a problem. Yeah
Like for other people too like it's a safety concern. Yeah
But there was there was some trust there and he was totally good the whole time. Oh, yeah
He's a great kid unflinchingly good, which was great
Are there any new sticker sets coming? Yes
I've bought a case which has three fans in the front behind an acrylic panel with zero air flow
Any suggestions on how to approve mesh so I have something in front and avoid limbs getting stuck if I cut it
I can't believe the timing of this Okay, so first of all you can cut a hole and then you can drill some holes
And then you can buy a little mesh fan filters But but that's not actually what I want to talk about what I want to talk about is that we're collabing with NASA
to answer the question of How far does a fan need to be from a panel to work effectively cool?
And they've got like the science for it. It's gonna be really cool. That's awesome. Yeah, I was talking to Adam about it today
I'm like super excited. That's sweet That's freaking awesome because there's so many applications where you want to know that like how high does your computer case have to be off
The floor before that power supply fans not effective. Yeah, what about if you have a vertical GPU mount?
How close does it have to be from the side panel before those fans are really impeded also the front fans?
And I think I came up with one other scenario So yeah, it's gonna be awesome
That's sick actually Hey, dynasty you can land. How do you?
Draw the line on how much internal information to show I
Feel like your transparency bites you in the ass more often than it helps you for me
A big part of my problem is that I am not detail-oriented enough to lie even if I
wanted to
Honesty honesty by incompetency. It really is the best policy to tell the truth and
To And to it's so much more legit than people understand
That's why we love them and to apply
To apply a basic set of principles in a way that is consistent can be consistently
remembered and Uplied and accounted for
And by by saying things publicly I create a system where that accountability is inherent
Because once you say something publicly you are in my humble opinion bound to it
So a lot of the time I share this internal information that ends up biting me in the butt
Because in a certain sense I kind of want it to if
If I ever changed my story in the future if that kind of makes sense
There are ways that it has bit me in the butt that I haven't wanted it to like when people make assumptions like that
I you know did lie or Something when actually I just like told you guys what it was and I don't know you drew your own conclusions because you got like mental
Problems or something I thought you were just collecting aspect marks like trophies or achievements or something
They match the tattoo and like I
My tattoo is just
My other tattoo is
Sometimes I can be logical to a fault but also highly emotional if that makes sense and so that
Logicalness in terms of my course of action
I think
Both the logical and emotional side of me think that if I behave in a way that is
Logical that that should make sense to other people and that they should more clearly be able to assess
My motivations and predict my future actions. So, you know to me for something like the trust me bro warranty
Let's look at that The logical case that I laid out pretty clearly is that if I ever fucked it up. I
would get put up on a stake, right and then and then
Spit roasted over a fire, right because I'm a public figure
So if I were to you know go around screwing people over on the warranty coverage of their products
They would it would make the loudest possible noise and be the juiciest possible gossip and so to me
That made the logical part the logical part of my brain went so this should be pretty obvious that I as not an idiot
Would not screw this up because it would basically be the end of my career
But then like I Don't know I guess the I guess some part of me missed the part where other people just like do stuff anyway that they shouldn't and don't seem
To face consequences and people have lived through that over and over and over again
so there so that trust is eroded on a broader scale which has nothing to do with me and
You know that's something that like doesn't easily compute for me
It's something that I struggled with it also
Emotionally is really frustrating right because
You know to me something can be kind of black and white. It's like yeah No, obviously we wouldn't do that because that would be really dumb
But some people legitimately seem to think that I'm actually very dumb
And so they will tend to assume like the dumbest possible course of action even though I
Don't really think I've you know given any reason I don't think that's necessarily fair. Oh, there's definitely some
Yes, okay. Yes, sure, but I don't think as a whole that's necessarily fair
No, I bet you with a lot of people they're going with the route that we've told them to do whether they've seen that or not
I don't know, but it's the don't trust companies thing. I think sometimes you overestimate how many people
Watch enough. Oh sure like they know you and there's also cultural differences
Like one of the one of the big things that I saw with the whole warranty thing was places where they have strong consumer protection laws and strong
Mechanisms to hold companies accountable for their warranty policies right here. We don't have that. Yeah, I know you literally have to like
Take the company to court. Yeah at a great deal of personal time and expense
You won't it pretty much boils down to the company's willingness to do anything for you
But there are parts of the world where That is different and some of those people were legitimately very upset in like a like a personal value
Way that that I would see it any way other than that
Okay, you know, that's fair enough, right and you know, obviously we went in we like created a policy before we actually ever sold a backpack
But you know for some reason like that's still, you know a huge problem
Even though the conversation people on that the poorly the poorly worded explanation that I gave for why we didn't have a policy yet
Which by the way was still before we ever sold a backpack
That's that part is very often forgotten very often forgotten
That was the truth and that transparency bit me in the butt big time because I didn't do a good job of explaining it
And wasn't well packaged. No, it was extremely poorly packaged and
I'm gonna keep doing it In conclusion, which is based we have we have an interview coming up on Floatplane
Checking in on Teran's first two years. So that's Sammy sat down with me and Teran and asked us some questions and
We are unflinching in our responses and
You know, we touch on some potentially even
challenging and uncomfortable subjects
And I think it's gonna be really great for the community even if it you know
Airs our internal laundry a little bit more than most companies would but I think that's part of what makes us really special
I feel like the watch rate percentage for that video of
Internal employees. Oh, well the amount of people that watch that with the Linus account alone. Oh
Yeah, that's gonna be nuts. I'll watch it. It genuinely sounds really interesting. I
Ask him why he hasn't moved here yet Hmm
Well, I don't really ask him so much as I point it pointed out
Because Tim Hortons is bad. I don't yeah, I don't blame him. We need to fix it. It has to be fixed
I know it has to be fixed. I can't afford to buy it. We can't afford to buy it. You could buy it
It's worth billions of dollars start a new one. Just take on alone. You literally know how much money I have
What are you even talking about? What if he made what if he made
Linus Sebastian's It's a terrible name for a restaurant. Really is a terrible name
No, he's got time for Linus Sebastian's
That's not the worst it jingles fairly well. Yeah, that's a Tim Hortons jingle. I know. Oh, okay. Yeah
All right, let's carry on Sebastian's has you when he sebs we've got that's a that's a scary
Sebastian's is not that bad. Sebastian's has you. Yeah, they have you bro creepy
Trust them trust us
It's fresh Minus and loose is not bad actually. Hey, I like it LL's coffee bar. Yeah. Oh
We could have like a we could have like a chilled juice bar. We could call it LL Cool J's
Oh Okay, got a couple more for you here. Yo buying a backpack for my GF
Are there any of the fun colors for the screwdriver knock to a retro coming back also Luke as a gym rat
What's your favorite lift in PR? Oh?
I don't PR because I'm old and broken so I
You do it a special PR my five. Yeah, I do my I do minimum sets of five my my best for that's to 25 bench probably
but uh, no That's the one I'm most proud of like grinding out
But probably my relative best was like a long time ago and I haven't pushed it in a in a minute
But there was a there's a point in time that for work reasons I had a lot of pent up feels and my dad was also there and that pushes me to try really hard and
Not that far into my fitness journey. I hit
335 squat for five or six and the bar was bouncing
I scared one of the ladies in the gym because I work at a community gym and not a big lifter gym big lifter gym
Nobody would care at all But she was like the bars gonna break and I was like, no, it's fine
But that was a very cool moment. Um, that has to feel really good. It was amazing. I wish you could frame moments
It was fantastic It's so ego boosting and then I had to remember that like
It's not like an incredible amount, but anyways
my favorite one's probably I think they're called eccentric accentuated skull crushers. I'm sure you remember those
Oh, those are still my favorite After I figured out after I figured out the muscle brain to do them
But you you lay flat down on a bench you take a fixed bar
I've done it with barbells now because those the fixed bars are too. Yeah, look at too strong
I need the weenie hut junior bars
But you you go ARM straight up and then slightly back so that your your return position or your resting position
It's still loaded and then you have to come down for three seconds
To behind your head is generally where I go and then fire up and you have to do that for 12 times
And it feels great your triceps just
After you figure out that the motion is throwing the bar over you. Yeah, it feels so it feels so good
It feels very functional weird. It's great. Try it. It's very good
Let's have an ends justify the means conversation real quick
Okay, Denoli 444 says
By Tim Hortons just rip us off with a meme coin and use that to finance it
It's 2025 make Canada great again. Would that justify a rug pole if we bought Tim Hortons back for Canada
The purpose of the rug pole is by is buying Tim Hortons. We're gonna not coin
We did for the screwdriver what we're gonna do for Canada's fast food. It's gonna be the best
It'll be a nine point. We're gonna be a nine point to this donut
With the flesh driver
They'll actually make the doughnuts in store again All right, sorry as for the as for the other fun colors of the screwdriver
My goal in the long term is that you can configure your screwdriver like Xbox controllers and
Get any color combination you want, but we are really far away from that right now and any movement that we make towards
diversifying our Distribution centers to make it easier to address other parts of the world if it gets more challenging to sell into the US is
Gonna set back projects like that because there'd have to be a whole setup and you'd have to have inventory of all these different colors
And stuff be a real challenge Okay, last one I've got for you tonight
I have a question for one and a half of the Lafaynier boys just one half
Oh for one half of the Lafaynier boys or my eyes are going now our I'm not one of them
Our company's dev teams don't have access to prod and are forced to do everything in testing environments
Is this normal in the dev world to pee again? It kind of depends on your company. So you curate this one. No wait. Yes
Okay, I forgot. I didn't think I did but I know I think that's okay
No, it's so like at our comp. Yeah, it most companies. No most companies you'll have a
Select group of people that have access to it and updates have to go through them. It is not very
Super normal, especially at at sizable teams or non startups or teams that are actually properly in production for just everybody be able to
Directly access prod and I don't think you should take that as an insult
I think you should take that as like a hooray. I don't have this
soul-crushing level of responsibility
Of security it took me like what it may be a year and a half
Maybe more before I was able to access the like wancho prod stuff that I do before the show because that's not a horrific amount of responsibility
Yeah Yeah, and it's and it's not it's not for me to just make an oops
I think Dan is gonna screw up so he can't access the thing the biggest part of it is actually like oh
One of Dan's account gets compromised or if I just make a mistake
Oh that yeah, you know people to just accidentally miss it some rigor behind your your understanding of the process and how things work
Because that's a touchy the same to touchy dashboard
And there's really no confirmation
It's really not a lot stopping you from making pretty big mistakes
So it yeah, I don't know it's no I wouldn't say it's super normal unless you have a very small team
And like you know some of my teams are in that range
So some of my teams basically everyone can touch broad, but they're still usually process involved
To make sure that there's visibility on it stuff like that
But I don't think the goal should be for everyone to be able to touch prod
I know There was one conversation
I was near at one point in time where two people had a certain company were bickering back and forth and the one of
What one of them used there? I'm able to push things to prod as like as a as a as a card to play against the other and that felt icky
But I do still think it's generally a better idea to have these updates filter through a smaller group of people
So that pushes to prod can be controlled should also be a cultural thing where you don't want to have access to prod
Yeah, because then there's a pressure. Yeah, you know liability. Yeah, yes
And that be that liability and managing that liability ends up being a significant part of those people's jobs
Because now they're like reviewing everything that's going up and making sure it's good and blah blah blah blah blah and that's that's like what they do now
and if you just want to build things
It might not be the best way to do that Anyways, I think we're good
See you again next week Same bedtime same bad channel. I can't even press it. Mine is this button. You gotta
Bye
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