What's up floaters?
What uh, that name still just bothers me. Floaters?
Yeah. You prefer floaties? What does floaters make you think?
Poop. Yeah. Yeah.
The ones that don't sink. The low density poops. Yeah.
Yeah. Is that what they want to be known as that? Yeah.
I think so. I think they're into it. Wow.
What's it? Something phagia? Something the copper, copper phagia?
I have no idea. Yeah. What is that?
Uh, don't look it up. Being into that? No.
It's worse. Oh. I don't even have the chat open to see how much I'm bothering them right now.
No one's said anything yet. They are unbothered. Hopefully because none of them know what it is and are not looking it up.
They like being called floaters. Okay.
I see. I see. That's horrible.
This is not the time for making new vocab. Yeah.
Especially not that. Oh. Poor Gerasol.
So innocent. Yeah. The fatty turds.
Write a poem about it.
Man. Last week, last week, the push was, hey, we can crack 38,000 Floatplane subscribers.
This week it's going to be, hey, how do we stay above like zero?
How do we not do the mass exodus? I mean, yeah, I like that idea.
Did you do pilots? Yeah.
Floaters. I liked betas best, calling them the betas back when Floatplane was in beta.
It was supposed to, it was always supposed to be pilots. That would be my band. It was literally always Linus and the betas.
Some bands like the name of the band sounds like that. Yeah.
I always felt that way. You hear like the something, something band, and it's just someone's first name, their
last name, and then band. It's just like, yeah. Dave Matthews band.
Yeah. Yeah. There we go.
That's what I was going to say too. Yeah. Like, what?
Well, I mean, at least he has band in there. It's like, it's not like Elton John. Yeah.
It's like, true. Elton John's band. We're going to go see Elton John in concert along with his drummer that's been with him
like his whole life. It's like, oh, okay.
What's his name? I don't know. I don't know actually, yeah.
That's amazing.
Boyancy buddies. I kind of dig that actually.
That's kind of cool. It's pretty good, BB.
I like boyancy buddies. I like boyancy buddies.
Yes, I still have my beta squadron shirt.
Nice. Yep. Nice.
I swear there's a demon in my house that destroys my shirts randomly, and I never see
them again. I never got rid of that shirt. I have no idea where it is.
I never got rid of my vessel shirt. I have no idea where it is. Really?
Yeah. Oh, I have no clue. I just like shirts just stop existing for me at some point.
I'm pretty sure I still have my vessel shirt. I definitely still have the toque.
I really wish I had my vessel shirt dude. My favorite pajama shirt though, actually, not my vessel shirt, not like any of our shirts.
You know, which ones might go to? I mean, aside from the one my sister gave me, you're never going to guess.
You're never going to guess in a thousand years. The LTX 2017 shirt.
You got nothing. You're not even, you're so far off, you're not even close.
Is it one of ours ever? No. Oh.
Model 24? Oh, that's a good guess, but no.
Too much ink.
Once upon a time, eight years ago, I think it was, I backed a Kickstarter for a truly
changing product. And you have a shirt from it?
The shirt is the only thing I have left from the 800 or $900 or whatever it was that I
spent on this Kickstarter. See, they know what's up.
I didn't think of it before chat said it, but the second chat said it, I was like, I'm
99% sure that's right because I have seen you wear that shirt. My G-bow shirt, it's more wear than almost anything else in my wardrobe.
I love my G-bow shirt. Emma wears the LTX 2017 shirt like every day.
Nice. You get home from work, change into it every time. Yeah.
No, it's got nothing. She swears up and down, it's the comfiest thing. It's got nothing on the G-bow shirt.
The G-bow shirt, dude, it's $900.
It must be great because I have nothing else.
Oh, man. Oh, I love this. Wendon gaming, so young, so innocent.
The fuck's a G-bow? He asks. Oh, man.
Yeah, it's a tax write-off.
That's what it is for sure. If it came out six months ago, Marquez would have killed it.
Dude, I want to turn G-bow.
I tried. I tried for a bit. I wanted to turn G-bow into an insult, like, don't be such a G-bow, you fucking G-bow.
That sounds risky. Yeah, I know. Yeah.
You end up figuring out it's like some other language's word for something.
Oh, yeah. You never know. Yeah.
You never know. It's everything's just so dangerous.
Speaking of Marquez, says Jacob.
We will be discussing what happened, but I think it is not my vibe.
To get embroiled in drama any more than I absolutely have to.
Yeah. We will acknowledge its existence. I have enough of my own drama.
Yeah. I don't need anyone else's drama. Yeah, we're good.
Yeah. Yeah, I have- We're chilling.
Yeah. What I will say to my floaters here, though, is, and not to the rest of the internet, is
it's nice. It's nice to not be the one for a change.
A tech YouTuber is trending on Twitter. Wait, it's not us?
Yes. We did it. Oh, man.
Somebody else. Yeah. I love it.
Oh. Yeah, so should we do a $50 a year subscription to Floatplane?
We still don't have annual billing, do we? Yeah, we do. Oh, do we?
We have a $50. Oh, wait. It is $50 a year.
Yeah. Sorry. Oh, crap.
I'm going to blow up now. We know it. Oh, you know what?
You should have unironically done. Oh, you still have a chance to do this.
We should make some exclusive wallpapers.
And just upload them as photos, and people can just download them.
No, only if they're in the $5 a month tier. Sure.
Yeah, let's do it. Well, and the grandfathered one. Hold on.
And the- so all of them. Let me see what I can do. Because the- yeah.
Hold on. Let me see what I can do. Let's see if we can-
It would work for the grandfathered one. It would work for the supporter plus one, obviously. Let's see if we can have it for the show.
Okay. Let's see what we can do. Let's see what we can do.
I should have thought of this earlier. Yeah, me too, actually. Yeah.
We can upload pictures, and you can do multi-picture posts. Yeah, no, I know.
Hey, so this is a crazy last-minute request.
Is anyone from, like, Designs still at work?
Is it- did this- am I stupid?
I forgot my AirPods case at home, so I just have my AirPods with me, and they're just
in my backpack, and it keeps ripping my calls away.
Yeah. Sorry, hi. Is anyone from Designs still at work?
Mr. Nick Light?
What? Yeah, I can hear you now.
Well, what we were thinking was we could- if we have any just, like, of our designs,
if we could get just, like, a dump of them to put as wallpapers for the $50 a year tier
on Floatplane, we thought that that would be topical.
I don't know. Whatever file format works for her, whatever's the fastest thing for Sarah to just, like,
out into a folder. It's a joke anyway. Yeah, we're just meming, so.
Yeah, just, like, whatever, whatever, whether it's, like, just stuff she literally already
has, don't let her overthink this. Okay.
Yeah, just- oh, what's the easiest way to get them posted?
I guess it would have to go to Sammy.
Oh, oh, I see. Yeah. Oh, yeah, if Sammy could get it posted, like, before the show, then that would be amazing.
You are actually a champion. Note I didn't tell you what you're a champion of.
It could have been masturbation, but, like, but you are a champion.
Vash in the tournament.
Nice. All right, I'll talk to you later.
Whatever, it's Nick. Like, what's the- what do you- what do you compete in?
Like, what's the- what's the- Could be volume.
Distance.
You're, like, training for the Olympics. You just do ab exercises all the time.
Bro's got a kid now, so, like, whatever. Yeah, he's clearly got- he's clearly got more skills than just that.
Do you think that the number of times that I've been canceled actually contributes to, like, a cancellation resiliency?
Like, is it cancellation armor when you go through the cycle enough times that it's just like, is there cancellation fatigue?
I think it depends. I think it can. I don't think it has.
Okay, so you think- how many more do you think I have to go?
Well, no. Do you get on it now and just, like, get it over with?
I think it's about the person. The person. And who they kind of end up aligning with and shifting their audience and stuff like that.
If you try to maintain the same audience and you align with the same people, I think it either stays the same or gets worse.
But some people will just be like, oh, well, I'm just gonna be a bad person now,
and then there's a group of people on the internet that are just cool with that.
So am I a bad person now or, like, where are we at here?
I don't think so. You don't think so not yet? Which is why you're still highly cancelable.
Right. Oh, that makes sense. So how do I complete my transition to not be cancelable?
Start selling lunch food to children. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Okay. Okay. So, like, we've already got lunch of bowls.
We've got lunch, Lee. We could have lunch.
Lunch sack? Lunch. Lunch.
Linus lunch. It's a bag of gruel.
Hey, it might actually be healthier than that stuff.
Super, super cost effective. Also consider, like, doing public fights.
Linus lunch, TT. Linus lunch tips. Public fights?
Who got in a public fight? Dom, it took me so long.
I still am not there. The Paul Brothers.
They got in a public fight? They're boxing matches. Oh, that's not a public fight.
That's a sporting event.
I was a... Public fight. Public fight sounds like a completely different thing.
If I went on r slash... If I went on r slash public fights...
Is that a thing? It's probably a thing. It almost certainly is.
I spoke accurately. It was a fight in public.
Public freak out is a thing. Public freak out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like lunch bag.
Oopy doopy. It's real food.
Public fights is a thing. It's a small thing, but it's a thing.
All right. Top 13%. Definitely not boxing.
No. It sure wasn't.
Are we supposed to...
Are we supposed to start the show? At some point. Are we scheduled?
Yeah. For when? Five minutes.
Four minutes. Four minutes. Let's do it.
Cool.
How unhealthy does the LTT lunch have to be? Well, I mean, we don't know anything about food.
So it would probably just be like a bag of chips.
The same as theirs. Get it?
I think I do. Yeah. I think so.
Like processors. I didn't get it.
Yeah, I could tell because it was a lot funnier than the reaction I got.
Yeah, yeah. I thought you were making fun of it because one of them is just chips.
One of them is nachos. Yeah, I know. It's so bad.
What? Yeah, what are they? Lunch for children?
Yeah. They're not even trying. I mean, they also come with a sugar drink and a candy bar.
It's not... There's no attempt here to make a good lunch.
Well... Lunch now with one billion transistors.
Thanks, Rod. Oh, that's Rod. That Rod.
Nice. Hi, Rod. Dude.
We didn't invite Rod to softball like this year.
We suck. We suck. Rod, remind me next year.
We do softball night every year. Hey, you've got to come up for whale land.
Yeah. Yeah, you've got to come up when we do whale land.
Hopefully we're going to do whale land. I don't know if we're going to talk about this on the show,
but we can talk about it real quick now before the show starts.
We had our follow-up meeting with the city earlier this week.
Have I updated you on this? No. Have you seen this?
Have you heard about this? No. Oh, dude, it was great.
So I have never, I have never felt like I absolutely needed to use this particular
Gen Alpha slang word more than to describe this call.
So we opened up with the person, the individual.
I'm just going to keep it real vague, who we have corresponded with in the past regarding
sort of bylaws zoning and an acceptable use of, you know, property or whatever, who did
a spiel on how, what our parking allocation is, what the interpretation of our zoning
is, and well, basically kind of mic dropped as though there was nothing left to discuss.
So I have to confess, it set me off on the wrong foot a little bit.
I might have, I'm so surprised. I just, I can't imagine how that would happen.
I might have gotten a little irritated. See, I'm an improv rules kind of person, you know, no, doesn't work.
You know, work with me, you know, we're in the scene together.
It's unrealistic because you'd have to do all these things to make it work.
At that point in time, you can decide to do those things if you want, even if they're
not useful. Yeah. So, but just note it's not useful.
It doesn't help us get anything done. If your job is to say no, be very afraid because you're not useful.
You can be replaced by an AI like that.
Okay. So your job should be to say yes, to find solutions.
So anyway, I kind of said, look, I don't think it's particularly, you know, useful to rehash
conversations we've already had about the current zoning interpretation or the concerns
about parking when we've already made it clear that, you know, we're not interested in having
just like an obstructionist conversation. We're interested in finding solutions.
We're solution finders. And after I kind of talked for a couple minutes where I realized I was sounding pretty
mad and I basically was like, okay, so, you know, I guess the question is, you know, Siri
says they're open for business. That's like, you know, an internal drum you guys have been beating.
You know, this kind of unnecessary red tape for what I feel is a very solvable problem
doesn't really feel like open for business to me. Like, are we having a conversation here or not?
And the person's boss starts talking about potential solutions.
And that person who spent the very beginning of the call being the only one who talked
literally didn't say another word and just sat there on the video call.
I could see their face the whole time.
Moulding out as hard as I have ever seen any human being ever mauled.
So mad. I don't feel like the solutions are even that bad.
No, they're fine. It's find a parking lot and put a shuttle bus or something like that, I'm assuming.
Yeah. And then that's like, that sucks, but that's up to you to decide if it's worth it or not.
Exactly. Dude, it was great. So the whole time I got to talk to their boss right in front of them about how useless
they were.
For the entire rest of like about the next 23 minutes, it was.
Moulding is being mad and balding.
So I just. I only saying that because someone asked.
Dude, I was so happy. I was so happy.
So we're in a good place with the city.
They basically asked us to put together a package of, you know, who we've talked to
about borrowing parking stalls, the analysis that we've done on availability of street parking
in the immediate area, what our schedule for the event might look like, what our layout
for the event might look like. Because I kept bringing up guys, you allow bingo in this zoning.
You specifically allow bingo because they asked me like, well, see, here's the thing.
How can you justify like land, e-sports, gaming or whatever else in a zone that, you know,
talks about recreational use being things like volleyball and things like this thing. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not.
I'm comparing it to bingo because it's pretty much the exact same thing.
You have like a stage and someone is there and they call it numbers and you have a bunch
of people sitting at tables, dabbing things in terms of the people density inside the
building. It is literally in terms of the bathroom requirements in terms of basically everything.
It is functionally identical to bingo.
So if bingo is allowed, gaming is allowed, period.
Other than you just are mad and don't want to, right?
I suspect the bingo hall is just never asked. No, no, they ask.
It's explicitly in the zoning. Oh. Yeah.
So that's my argument. You guys have a carve out for bingo.
Bingo is honestly probably more dense. If I can do bingo, I can do this.
Yeah. Period. Because if you think about the desk space that you're probably going to give gamers.
Oh, yeah, 100%. More desk space than bingo. There is no question.
And it's great because that bingo exemption makes no sense.
Like compared to all the other things, it's clear that somebody at some point knew somebody
and that's why it's in there. But that's great for me.
That's how law works though. So like you should, if it's going to be put in, other people should be able to take advantage
of it as well. Then it's in there. Yeah.
And let's get in there. Yeah. I'm so excited, dude.
I'm like super excited. Okay. Let's get this story short.
Rod, you'll have to come up soon. Yeah.
Okay. Resuming the selected right now.
Yeah. I love stuff like that.
Okay. No. Go ahead.
I need to maybe log into a thing. Someone said just play bingo randomly throughout the night.
Effectively. I lost their message. Oh, that would be, that would be, that would almost certainly have to be a whale land tradition.
Okay. Sorry. Oh, I almost removed it.
Bingo, badminton and beams. Oh, okay.
And video games. Okay. Okay.
Started. Okay.
What is up guys? Welcome to the WAN Show. I was hacked again.
This time by Veritasium and as many of you observed, my wife doesn't respect me.
Oh. Have you read the comments on that video? It's wild.
We'll talk about that later. Anyway, in other news this week, one of our friends in the industry has been embroiled
in a little bit of controversy.
I'll have to give you some background on that.
Oh. Well, these are panel of judges review.
I just got signed out of the docs. Nice. I'm working on it.
Wow. It's a good show. What a great show by a professional.
Cloudflare wants to help block AI training bots, which is actually sick.
And California is changing how companies have to communicate purchases versus basically
renting software or renting a game. Pretty much what we do today.
Which is, I'm very happy they're doing this. This is actually super cool.
The show is brought to you today by remotely Squarespace, JumpCloud and of course our chair
partner secret lab and laptop partner LG.
Why don't we jump into a little bit of behind the scenes.
That veritasium collab, we actually have been working on doing more collabs because we realized
that we've kind of been stuck in our little bubble up here in Vancouver and haven't talked
to anybody or collaborated with anybody pretty much since COVID.
And there have been a couple of small exceptions, but we used to collab with other creators
a fair bit and we just stopped.
In fairness to us, we've been a little busy, especially over the last year.
We've had some work to do getting our house in order, but we kind of talked about this
a couple of months ago, I guess, and aligned on that, hey, we need to kind of, you know,
get out there, put ourselves out there, start seeing people again.
I was pushing for this for sure. Yeah, 100%. I think it's cool.
It's a good part about being a creator. Well, and it's fun.
Yeah. It's fun for everybody. It's fun for me.
I like to think I'm fun to collaborate with for other creators, and I think it's fun
for the audience as well to see these crossovers. Yeah.
Anyway, the veritasium collab was one that completely fell into our lap.
Derek reached out and he was basically like, look, I think out of kind of everyone that
I could work with on this, you're probably one of the ones that would appreciate what
we're doing the most. Right. I was like, this sounds like the coolest thing ever, but something people I think don't necessarily
realize is that in a production like this, there is a little bit of movie magic.
That is not to say that the attack vector isn't real.
It is real. That is not to say that if Derek wanted, he couldn't have intercepted my phone number.
You put a skin on it. Oh, we could talk about my skin a little bit later.
Okay. Not right now. Okay.
The point is that he could have intercepted my number.
Yeah. But if you observed anything about the video that was a little weird, it's because it wasn't
my number because Derek and our team had serious reservations around anybody, whether
it's him or the security researcher that he partnered with or anybody just willy-nilly
intercepting my communications. I was mad.
Were you? I saw a video came up in my notifications and I had a massive like WTF.
Why did you not tell me? Oh, yeah. That actually makes sense.
Yeah. I probably should have mentioned it to you. And then I skipped through the video to be like, what happened?
Do I need to be doing something about like no one told me anything happened?
And then I see your phone at one point and I was like, oh, that's not his phone.
Okay. And then I went all the way back and just watched it casually.
However. Did you enjoy it? Yeah.
It was good. So one of the things that people seemed kind of upset about in the video was that Yvonne
doesn't respect me. Why? Yeah.
I don't, I don't understand. I would just like to give you guys a little bit of background for what happened in our
interaction. First of all, when I called her, so I knew it was coming from a real SIM, a SIM that
they obtained over the counter because the point was not to just do a theoretical demonstration.
The point was to do a practical real life demonstration of how this kind of an attack
works. It is very real. So they just obtained a SIM and put it into a phone, but that wasn't my SIM.
So when I called Yvonne, it was coming from a completely different phone number, one that
she wasn't familiar with. Oh, I didn't even, because I knew that.
So I didn't even register. Okay. So, so I, so when I first called her, I was just messing with her at the beginning of
the call. Did you notice I tried to make my voice sound like, like kind of like a scam?
I thought this was pretty obvious, to be honest.
I didn't, I didn't even sort of, I've been sitting here confused about what they would
have even been talking about because I thought it was like pretty apparent.
So, so Yvonne hung up on me, not because she doesn't respect her husband or doesn't want
to talk to me. She hung up on me because she is a smart lady.
No, it's good. Who happens to be the financial controller for a small to medium sized business, depending
on how you measure it, and is not interested in talking to AI robo-caller spam people.
Yeah. She did a great job. It was actually partially just because I had an opportunity to just do a little test.
Like if I sounded a little weird, would she stay on the line or would she hang up?
No, that's good. She did the right thing. She did a hundred percent the right thing.
Yeah. I just, I thought that. I didn't.
So, so then I, the one that I do want to explain is that when I was actually talking to her
and I was kind of explaining how the thing works. And she said, I'm with Cindy.
And I was immediately like, okay, bye. And she was like, bye.
The reason for that is because our cat was sick.
So we got two kittens a few weeks ago. Yeah.
Man, I guess it's almost a month ago now. We adopted two little kittens that were, our neighbor's friend found them in their shed,
essentially. So these are just like wild cat kittens.
And one of them developed a fever and was super lethargic and we contacted our vet friend
and we were like, hey, Cindy, context.
How long should we wait? Like, because I know from talking to you, like the smaller the animal, potentially the scarier
any kind of illness can be. Technically always, but for the most part, yeah.
But, you know, if you don't like have a lot of blood and meat and liquid in you, you know,
not drinking for a day is a lot bigger of a deal for something, you know, like this
with no blood in it versus like if an elephant didn't drink for a day, it's probably going
to be okay. It does vary a fair amount, but yeah.
I think we can say it's a general rule. In general, probably, yeah.
So, it was enough for me to ask and I'm like, yo, Cindy, like how long should we wait to
bring him in? And she goes a day at most and I'm like, okay, so what's your availability like?
So she squeezed us in. So the reason that I'm with Cindy meant this conversation needs to end right now.
Oh, yeah, because you're on a crazy time crunch. Was because she was at the vet who had graciously squeezed us in to take care of our sick kitten.
If that was rude, I'm rude. I was filming a video not that long ago, Emma called me and I answered and was like,
I'm a filling a video. And she's like, okay, bye. And just immediately hung up.
She did. Yeah. So I don't know.
It's all fine. So anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know there's a bit of there's a bit of movie
magic in stuff like this, but the video was great.
The attack is awesome, extremely real. And the demo was 100% real.
But if there was any kind of weirdness that you guys observed, it was because it was a
little weird. I was calling from an unfamiliar number in the first place.
I decided to do the voice cause I thought it was funny. I'm actually kind of surprised he left that in the cut.
I didn't really like, I didn't really contribute any of my thoughts to how he should cut it
together or how his team should deal with that. They were super professional.
Was super cool working with them. I first met Derek.
Five years ago or something like that.
And remember the COVID gap? Yeah. Maybe longer.
No, no, it was pre COVID gap at a creator summit, I think. So yeah, so I first met him ages ago, I'm thinking like it might be closer to like seven
is what I'm saying. No, I don't think so. I don't think so.
20. Dude, seven years ago. I wasn't cool enough to get invited to a creator summit.
That's 2017. I know. Yeah.
No, I didn't go to create. No. Really?
Yeah. Yeah. No.
Dude, even when I even when I went, I think it was five years ago. I was like, not a cool kid. You know?
Like that. There's seriously like, like massive personalities at these things with, you know, global, you
know, followings and huge brands and like, like, dude, I think that was around the time
that like dude perfect was signing like deals with Nickelodeon, you know?
And I'm like, hi, hi, I make, I make tech tips.
I can fix your computer. Do you want some tech tips?
Do you like computers? Stop all the downloading.
So I, so I was just happy that, you know, cool kids like Veritasium and Michael from
Vsauce were even willing to like talk to me a little bit.
That was exciting. I never thought we'd collaborate. And then this one just happened completely out of nowhere.
And I'm so excited. I think, I think Derek's great video was great.
Really appreciate it. I learned a bunch of stuff, but that's why it was a little weird.
And everything is okay. We're okay. Everyone's okay.
What else do we want to talk about this week? You want to pick our next topic?
Sure. Do you want to talk about Cloudflare?
Cloudflare has entered and announced to not introduce announced a suite of tools called
AI audit, which allows website owners to monitor which bots are crawling their site as well
as giving them background on the bots, who owns them and what their purpose is.
For example, scraping information for AI training, cataloging web pages, which, you know, you
probably want them to do, or collecting information for research.
Users can also choose to block all bots to block them based on purpose or to block them
individually. According to Cloudflare, users will eventually be able to sell access to their site to these
bots, either with a flat rate or a scaled rate based on their purpose.
Let's go Cloudflare. Yeah, it was actually kind of a good week for tech giants doing pretty cool stuff.
Doing big enterprise level stuff as well. Well, I don't know if it's in the dock, but Valve removed force arbitration from their
end user agreement. Is it not in the dock? No.
That's okay. I mean, it's a huge thing. The internet's very happy about it.
There's a huge thing, but there's not a lot for us to say about it. There really isn't.
Other than that, that happened. And that's super cool. It's like one of the only times ever that terms and conditions have changed, and it's
like, oh, wow, that's good. For the better.
That is freaking awesome. There was another big one this week.
Actually, why don't we jump right into one of our other kind of more exciting topics?
It's the positive show. I am not necessarily the biggest fan of regulation for the sake of regulation.
I actually had a really interesting conversation at Creator Summit with a small creator who
uses YouTube shorts to promote their snack business.
They are only really on YouTube because they made promotional videos for their restaurant
that they franchise out, and they did really well.
And they're like at Creator Summit, and I'm like, well, this will be a cool conversation
because that's not an origin story I've heard before.
Anyway, so it was really cool, but one of the things that he mentioned to me was that
working in the Lone Star State, opening up in Texas was like easy as pie.
And the regulatory burden for a small snack franchise somewhere like California, he said
was much higher and that it was very frustrating.
But you got to give California props once in a while because this is awesome.
California has passed AB 2426, a new law that forces digital storefronts to clearly state
that they are only offering a digital license at the point of sale.
These companies must list all restrictions on the license upfront, including the fact
that it can be revoked. Digital storefronts cannot imply that customers are buying a product that they will own unless
the end user can permanently download the product and use it offline indefinitely.
So good. Companies that fail to do this will be subject to a fine for false advertising.
Because that's what it is. And so they should be. You do not buy games.
You don't own games. You'll lease them. In fact, you don't even lease them because there isn't a clear term.
There isn't a clear term to the agreement. You are.
What even is it? It's not. It's like month to month rental, except buying a temporary right or something.
Right of access. I mean, it's okay. Yes.
Yes. Yes. It's an access license.
I understand what it is. I just mean the way that they've phrased it in the past makes it sound like you are buying
games. You go on the valve. What?
Which tab is it? What's it labeled? Store.
Right. You go on the store. That sounds like I'm buying a game.
Does it not? People are like, you forgot GOG. No, we didn't.
I don't know what you're even talking about. We're not even talking about GOG.
Get off it. GOG's great. Love GOG.
Yes. Yes. When you buy a game from GOG that is a DRM free game that you download, you are buying
the game. They're just not going to have to change anything. Yeah.
We're not talking about GOG. Other people will have to change things. We're talking about literally everything else.
Stop. I don't hate hot dogs.
My goodness. The sponsor of the bill, assembly member Erwin, cited Ubisoft, deleting the crew from players
accounts in April as an example of why the law was necessary.
Good. Absolute Chad. Nice move.
Absolute Chad. Good moves. S plus.
Thank you for paying attention to stuff that sucks and going, well, hold on a second.
Is this a one-off or is this a systemic problem?
This is a systemic problem.
California also passed another law, the Phone Free School Act, which requires schools to
limit student access to cell phones except in case of emergency or with the permission
of a teacher, administrator, doctor, or individualized education program for children with special
needs. This makes California the 15th state to have passed such a law.
I have got to say, there's recently been a lot of movement on cell phone bans in schools
here in Canada as well. I'm kind of cool with it.
I'm pretty glad that my kids, by the time they hit high school, are not just all going
to be on their cell phones all day. I genuinely think it's a huge deal.
Like I don't have kids, but if I did, I would.
That you know of. Oh my God. If I did, I would.
I mean, the one-off success rate's got to count for something. Very much hope that this would exist because the brain rot is so intense, billions of dollars
going into trying to corrupt your mind into never leaving a device is not something that
you want flowing into the brain of a child. It's just, I don't know.
And I realize that we both literally sound, but think of the children right now.
But actually. But these are things that at this point, it's becoming fairly well documented, have negative
effects on still developing minds. It's a think of the everyone, like this screws over adults and stuff too, right?
But like at a certain point, you can't control them. And they're not even really controlled.
They're just controlling them at school, which like, that makes sense anyways.
Yeah. What are you doing on your phone at school that you need your phone for?
Theoretically, nothing like school don't a lot of the classrooms have laptops and stuff
now. Yeah, depending. Depending.
Yeah. And if you need one, it does. Yeah.
And if you don't need one, then it's not going to. Then it doesn't need it. Yeah.
You need your phone. Stop. It's like, I'm honestly surprised that they, I'm honestly surprised that this took as
long as it did. I mean, they would, they would literally stop us from intercepting pieces of paper that
we passed to each other. So how, how, how, I mean, I guess it can get kind of complicated, right?
You know, oh, this is my personal property. You can't confiscate it from, but like that never stopped anyone from confiscating something
from me. I mean, they confiscated my silly string when I sprayed that girl with it.
I think the rules changed. Yeah. That was only because she was the daughter of a teacher though.
When I was, they wouldn't have done it for anyone else. I got an in school suspension for silly string.
Who cares? When I was in grade one, I, I was racing little boats down the stream that was at my school
with my friends on lunch or recess or whatever.
And then I had my boat with me in class and I wasn't even playing with it.
I just had it with me and she took it and she never gave it back.
Ever. Which? Ever.
How dare she? I will literally never get over this. This will bother me forever.
The fact that she never gave it back is nuts.
His paper boat, my silly string in suspension.
Scarred for life. School's, school's traumatic, man.
It's traumatic. I mean, my dad was always telling me about the Catholic school and they, they hit his
knuckles with the ruler and everything. I'm like, dad, you had it easy, brother.
What about my silly string? What about my silly string?
Oh man. But no, seriously, I think it's good.
There's the, there's the arguments of like, oh yeah, but you would have it on you as a
tool. So like learning how to use it. What, yeah.
Yeah. It's not the point. You don't just immediately stop learning when you leave school either.
And like you'll get into the, you will have no problem learning the habit that your phone
has answers to things outside of school. Yeah, I'm really not worried about that.
I don't think that kids need to be trained to use their phone more.
Yeah. Let's be, let's be real. Not an issue, bad argument.
One thing I want to add is there was a bunch of Cloudflare announcements, actually, and
some, some of the other ones are really cool. One of the ones that I want to point out was tweeted out by Troy Hunt and shared to
me by, I think it was handyman. In relation to Mike.
You know Troy, right? I know, I know, I just, I'm just being an a**hole.
And, uh, wrap Cloudflare, Cloudflare around your site and they can now automatically
hit, have I been pwned, uh, pwned passwords during a login attempt, check it against our
DB as in, have I been pwned DB and pass a request header to the origin of the password
has been briefed. That's so cool. Actually, super awesome.
And really awesome. If Cloudflare could figure out their enterprise support, I would be very happy, but your
tools are great and have always been really awesome.
I like working with you very much. No plans of ever canceling subscriptions.
So I'm putting myself in a bad negotiation position, but your enterprise support has
always been a little bit questionable and it's really expensive. So if you can figure that out, that would be great.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Sick.
Um, we should probably, um, update the sign.
What are we supposed to do next? Uh, if you want next, let's do a couple of merge messages.
Heck yeah. I mean, how many, how many topics do we have to get through?
I mean, we can, we can back load them. That's fine. I think we're going to, we already did three topics, Dan.
I don't know what's going on. I was doing math the whole time, trying to figure out what I'm supposed to end this
show. So we, whatever, uh, we don't expect him to actually listen to us.
He just says we, we only pay him enough to sit in the same room.
All right. Left, Mike. Let's keep going to take.
Come on. We got deadlines there. We got dying birds.
All right. Oh, dude, dude, what the heck?
You better hope they're alive when he gets home. Well, that's why I want to get him home.
Otherwise they will be, they'll be fine. They're fine. They're fine. Guess what's here?
Cargo pants. I would like to take a moment to just point out that these pants do not defy the
laws of physics. So you cannot fit a submarine in them.
Oh, um, well, just, there were some people upset about the size of the laptop.
Somebody's going to upload a picture with like a Lego submarine in their pocket.
I'm sure they will. Linus lied again. He was wrong.
Linus was wrong. Anyway, get him boys. The LTT cargo pants are now here for your wearing and does that one you?
Which one? This one? Yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah.
For your, for your wearing and viewing pleasure, complete with magnetic pocket
flaps, hammer loops, uh, zipper back pockets, YKK baby loads of carrying
capacity with different sizes of either pass through.
So see these ones here are like pass-throughs for pens or whatever else
or regular pockets. Um, yeah, we flip and love these.
We have spent a lot of time developing them. There's, uh, like an army of internal people that absolutely swear by them.
Tynan, I don't think ever takes them off. Yeah, he's always Andrew from the camera crew only rarely removes his.
Uh, I have been daily in these. You've probably seen them a lot in the videos in case you're wondering.
Um, this is how they patina.
So they definitely change in color a little bit, but yeah, I actually
really liked the way they fade out. Yeah, I was going to say, if anything, I think they might look better.
Um, anyway, it's available now 21 pockets, uh, the, the, the, the gusseted
crotch that allows for a wide range of motion darted dual layer knee pads that
allow you to kneel in them comfortably. They're great for everyday wear with a soft washed down feel and available now
at LMG.GG slash cargo pants. Now there is a slight controversy already because I'm addicted to it.
We only offer different waist sizes and a 30 inch inseam at this time.
We are exploring alternate inseam lengths, which is going to be good for
taller boys. Yes. Yes, Dan. I hear you.
Um, but we need to see if we've, let me put it this way.
We've never really had, oh, Luke, you are standing in none of our camera views.
Yeah, but you can't see my feet. Anyways, what a guy. Um, there's no, there's no.
There's no, there's no camera view that shows that. Yeah, they can.
None of our cargo other website.
Oh my goodness. None of our lower half products have ever been particularly out of the park.
Grand slam hits. This one actually does look like it's going pretty well so far, but we didn't
want to over commit. Um, every additional inseam length adds another new three, four,
six, seven, eight, nine, nine skews.
Um, so we, we would like to restock.
We have actually already done the work for 32 inch and 34 inch inseams.
Inseam is crotch to ankle, right? Is that right?
If I recall correctly, yes. Um, I don't know.
So anyway, yep, we know, and we're working on it.
And if these ones sell well, then we will absolutely be looking to, to do more.
Yes. The other thing that is finally here is the new spout lids for LTT water bottles
are now available. We cleared out all of the old ones.
Hey, hey, new and improved spout lid V2 on every LTT insulated water bottle.
Easier to hold, easier to clean, more durable.
Those are the main benefits. And I have a spout lid for myself to upgrade to right now.
Oh, look at that. We've got a bunch of different colors. How wonderful is that?
Got to love it. I think the water balls have been out for a while.
So now you can get them again. Yeah, the packaging is plastic.
The reason is that these are from the same, it's the same packaging we used
on our old spout lids that we had. And we just forgot that we still used plastic packaging.
The last time we ordered these, which was a long time ago, we ordered like a ton of them and we never updated them on that.
We wanted new packaging that didn't have plastic. So we're sorry we've let you down.
That is our bad. Anyway, I want to do a quick demo of the durability of the new lid.
And this is either going to be a great moment in Wancho history.
Is this an Elon Musk throws steel ball at windshield?
Dude, we don't even need to go Elon Musk to find an example of an epic
live fail when doing a product demonstration.
Is this a backpack dual layer moment?
Shank. So here we're going to go. We're going to go Linus Cam here.
So what are you even whacking against the table? So you're going to you're going to notice that the threads are on the outside.
Yes, it feels a little funny.
On the lips, but we felt that the improvement in clean ability.
Incredibly easy to clean now was worth was worth the was worth the slight
you know, issue there. We have these little pull tabs. Those are awesome on our O-rings in the in the top one, too.
Yeah, also, also in the top, there's a little pull tab in there.
So you can pull the O-rings out, really clean them, because guys,
you should pull them out and you should clean them on your water bottle,
on your thermos, on everything. It is disgusting, the amount of gunk that can get built up in these.
You said it doesn't fit the old bottle, right? It does fit the old bottle. Fit the old bottle.
Yeah, I don't think anyone said this is an old bottle. The very, very OG bottles, the very, very first order
that we ever placed, it fits them, but you got to screw them on like really tighter.
It leaks, they change the threading a little bit. It won't affect pretty much anybody because anyone who upgraded
to a new lid with those, I talked to customer service about it.
They were like, yeah, basically anyone who complained about it, we replaced their bottles and like it's pretty much dealt with.
Anyway, the other thing, what's the other thing?
Oh, yeah, so this stays in place.
Real good, but the big one is that, yeah, what's he going to do?
We have upgraded the durability of this handle here.
You're dripping on your laptop. Well, you know what? Maybe you should have thought of that before you gave me a laptop.
OK, so there's this one has like kind of a little like sharp spot,
the old one. So the new one is nicely rounded. So when you're when you're carrying it like this,
it doesn't like cut into your fingers.
But the bigger difference is that it's just a little wide.
What's the plan? Hold on, which way is tight?
The old one breaks about that easily.
OK, that did, in fact, happen.
Yep. I thought that was the new one and I saw it instantly break when he did that
and I was like, oh boy. Y'all ready for this?
Yeah. Let me just hide the banner. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Cool.
That's that's hitting pretty hard. That's harder than a drop.
Let's go. Nice.
OK. All right. Break the table.
Oh, goodness. Still good.
Luke, verify. Luke wouldn't lie to you. It's good.
All right. Yeah, there is. I don't even think there's a mark.
So spout lid V2. There's probably a mark on the table.
Is there? Yep. Yeah.
Yeah, there's dance. All right. Well, water bottle one, I guess.
Yep. So yeah, cool. There you go.
Enjoy. So right. Merch messages.
Now's a great time to leave a message. All you got to do is go to lttstore.com for one of our great new water bottle V2 lid
plus water bottles or just a lid in your cart. And you'll see a little box pop up for Merch messages.
You can also check out the new cargo pants. Merch messages will go to producer Dan, who will forward them to someone internally,
respond to them himself, sometimes incomprehensibly,
or he curate them for me and Luke to respond to.
Dan, do you want to show them how Merch messages work?
Yeah, sure. Hey Linus, I just got a kitten.
His name is Kirkland. Really excited. Since you have more cables than anyone, how do you keep them from chewing on cables?
You hope that your cat doesn't develop the habit of chewing on cables.
In all seriousness, though, you can buy stuff that you kind of paint onto it that tastes
really, really bad to them. That is probably the best way to go about it.
I mean, you can also try keeping the little spritzer near and giving them the old spritz
when they do something that they're really, really not supposed to.
But the bitter stuff is probably your best bet.
To my dear Linus Luke and Dan the Man, I was wondering if any fixed shaft screwdrivers were
in development, and if so, what are the different challenges in design compared to the existing
screwdrivers? Fixed shafts? Fixed shafts.
It's hard to say. Fixed shaft screwdrivers. Fixed shaft started development before precision did.
We had sort of this grand concept of what it would look like, where we would have blades
and handles that were kind of stocked as pieces, and we would almost build to order.
So, the idea was that we would have kind of like with our desk pads, and our water bottles,
where it's one price and you kind of decide what size of one you need.
Right? The idea was that we would just have a screwdriver, price, and then you could mix and match your
blades and your handles. So, if you wanted like a giant, you have giant hands and you wanted like a giant handle
with like a little Phillips number one or something like that, or you wanted some, well,
long one or a short one, you'd essentially be able to get a screwdriver in any configuration
that you wanted. And if we could get the cold press fit right, then it would have all the strength and like
solidity and solidity of a fixed shaft screwdriver, but with the flexibility of a configurable
screwdriver. We did a lot of development on that.
We worked on a version of the handle that has like a rubberized over mold.
I don't think that ever went to actual injection molding, but we have like prototypes that
feel pretty darn good. We designed a bunch of different blades.
So, sort of, you know, exactly what they would be, but where it kind of has stalled right
now is a process for assembly and the risk of stalking that many SKUs.
So, if you think about it, Phillips number two, let's say, you know, for computer builders,
that's going to be one you're familiar with. How many Phillips number two blades do I need?
Oh, well, hold on. First, how many handles do I need? We wanted about, we wanted five sizes.
We wanted small, extra, extra small, small, medium, extra medium, and large or something
like that. I forget exactly what we called them, but it was internal goofy names.
Like, they weren't customer ready.
Of those, of those we were going to do, I think, two shaft girths.
So, the two biggest sizes were going to be like a big boy, or actually, it might have
been three. I think it was three shaft girths.
So, already, for each handle, we're going to need two molds or an insert mold.
So, that adds a bit of complexity as well.
So, like, the big one, you could do, like, a giant, like, slot number three, right?
Or you could do, like, a Phillips two. And then, the very smallest one, you could do, like, a tiny, like, triple, triple zero
Phillips, or you could do up to maybe, like, a Phillips one, right?
So, you'd have these, like, three, these three blade sizes and these five handle sizes.
You wouldn't be able to do, like, the smallest blade in the biggest handle or vice versa,
but there'd be some overlap there. Okay, then, we had to figure out all the different tip styles, right?
So, a Phillips number two, we were going to need at least probably two blades, times
however many lengths we want to support. So, if you want, like, a stubby length, a medium length, and a long, like, a long boy,
then, okay, that's already, what is that, like, six blades for Phillips number two.
And that's just, that's just one, that's just one tip.
Then, we had to figure out a modular system for labeling, like, the cap,
because we wanted to be able to, like, put these into, like, a block, kind of, like, knives.
Okay. And be able to easily see, or just, like, some kind of screwdriver holder,
like, a vertical one, or an angled one, or whatever,
we wanted to be able to do, like, a modular labeling system, essentially.
And we came up with a system for that, they were just going to be, like, silicone,
like, kind of butt plug shape things, and they would just kind of pop into the,
the butt of the screwdriver, the butt end, like, in the butt.
They were, like, plugs, and they'd go in the,
but you're making it dirty, it's the butt of a screwdriver.
You danced around, you danced around everything else.
You just went right in on that one. Oh, yeah, right in.
Yeah, with the, with the, just,
um,
did I, did I already say the, right. Okay, so the other issue is the workflow and product management issue of, like,
how to just in time this,
how to turn our, what is right now mostly a warehousing operation that we work with
into, like, like, screwdriver assembly on site as well,
because for the regular screwdriver, assembly is actually done at pH molds, where they, where they do the molding,
because they, they, like, warm fit them.
Um, so it pretty much is stalled. We could just, we could just do what other people have done and just find a
screwdriver set and just friggin, I don't know, like, put our brand,
like, silkscreen our brand on it or whatever. We could do that.
But, you know, we, for better or for worse,
often approach a product and ask ourselves,
what are we adding to this category? And if the answer is not really anything,
then we kind of think maybe we just shouldn't bother.
Um, we are currently exploring a new way to tackle,
like, fixed-ish shaft screwdriver. So it would be, like, a, um, a multi-bit screwdriver,
but where you swap out the entire blade. But what I told the team is, look, if it's not, if there's any wobble,
then to me it isn't worth making.
Like, it's not a fixed shaft screwdriver competitor at that point.
So let's just not even bother. But I think Robert from the engineering team at Creator Warehouse
has actually been making some good progress on that. So, um, maybe we'll have something to share with you guys
in the next, like, six to 12 months. But don't hold your breath.
If you need a screwdriver, go buy a screwdriver, brother. Like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna tell you,
it's gonna be like God's gift to screwdrivers.
It's, it's, if we bring something out, it'll be great because otherwise why would we bother making it?
But, um, don't deprive yourself of screwdriver ownership.
Screwdriver ownership on my accord.
The last thing that I'm supposed to cover for the, um,
for the LTT announcements period of the show is modmat signups.
We're getting closer to finally launching modmat. So we just want to remind you that if you want to get notified the moment it drops,
you can sign up at LMG.GG slash modmat.
It's gonna be affordable. It's gonna be extremely high quality.
I think you guys are gonna be really, really impressed by it.
And I am based on how the last couple launches have gone
with the scribe driver and the precision. If you aren't on the email list, you're not getting one.
We should, if, if that's gonna be the case,
we want to just order more stuff. Um, we're having some conversations internally
around our stocking strategy. I think, um, I think that, um,
the pendulum had swung pretty far toward ordering a lot of stuff
and then struggling to sell through it in a reasonable amount of time
because unlike a lot of retail operations,
ours is not entirely, uh, self-contained.
Uh, it has convenient access to media empire cash
that it can just kind of use whenever it needs it.
So it has, it had gotten kind of fast and loose
with how much inventory it was allowed to carry.
Um, so, you know, since Taryn came on, one of his major priorities has been taking care of dead and aging inventory.
Um, so we have freed up a lot of cash with Lime Day
and there was another promo that we did last Black Friday, Cyber Monday.
Uh, so we freed up a lot of cash. So we actually have a lot of stuff on order right now
and we're going to be flush with inventory and more inventory of the right things.
But I think in the interim, the pendulum might have swung a little too far the other way
and we were being very conservative about our order quantities.
And this is just one of those things that...
You know, look, we aren't your local retailer
who is taking an inventory from their, um, you know, country distributor
who is taking an inventory from the manufacturer
and there's a well-developed supply chain here
that has enough excess at each stage to help smooth out any, any bumps
so that nobody gaps out, right? And even then, things gap out.
Like Intel has a controversy with 13th, 14th Gen
and they're out of stock everywhere. Nobody can, nobody can get one.
Like it happens, even to companies that have been doing this for decades.
We haven't. So, and we don't have the benefit of, of, of these additional layers
of the supply chain to help smooth things out. We are ordering directly from factories.
We are creating custom products. It's not like when, when we don't have precision screwdrivers,
we can just like source another one and swap it into our bit sets and ship them.
You know, we'll, we have to get them made. We have to get them machined.
We have to source all the pieces individually. It's, um, it's, it's complicated.
And so when we gap out, we tend to gap out really hard
because it could be a three, four month turnaround
in order to actually get everything together, get it all assembled and bring it into the store.
So we're, we're gonna, we're gonna be working on that. We're gonna, we're gonna do a better job for you guys.
But in the meantime, sign up for a notification from modmat.
If you want one, cause otherwise you might not get one.
We ordered these a while back. Okay. This says, don't read the title.
Read the first point. Good job. We have a very special message from our very own Riley.
Let's watch. Are you doing this?
You're already playing audio. So pause it from somewhere else.
Yes, I will. I will do that. And I made sure it worked this week.
Wow. Dan. I did the bare minimum.
Yay. Good job. Good job.
No, I think, I think that goes beyond bare minimum. I think that's minimum.
Not bare. That's a clothed minimum.
Thank you.
Okay. Are we doing this? I was just going to let it kind of hang here
awkwardly. We don't have to do that. We could.
No, it's fine. All right. Here we go.
If you play that. They should hear it. You should hear it.
Backflip. Watch this. Whoa.
That was gnarly. Hey, you want. What the f*** just happened?
I have told that guy so many times.
Not at work.
It was off hours. Don't worry about it.
I think. Do you know? I don't think that actually makes it okay.
He has disclosed this publicly. He has had like so many concussions.
Every time he's like, I'm going to do a backflip.
I'm going to do a backflip. I want to do a backflip on stream. I'm going to do that.
I'm like, no, no, I don't. It is not worth the damage you could do to your brain.
How did you allow this to happen? That was not during work hours.
It doesn't matter. Don't encourage this behavior.
Do you know what happened last time he fell down the stairs?
I don't know. He missed work for like two months.
But then he blew up. Now he's a beloved boy.
That is not the point.
What's your takeaway from that? It was a funny edit.
Sorry. Okay. There you go, guys.
Hurting yourself at work is a path to fame here.
No, I don't know. That's what he made it sound like.
Yes. No, I do not approve of this.
Anyway, let's just finish the thing.
Want to learn more fun facts about me? Tune into Floatplane for Riley Week all next week.
Here's some fun clips. Gotta get the blood up.
The core issue with Star Wars today, as I see it,
is that it's struggling to change itself.
How is your Tim Cook impression so good? I don't know.
The ship is not moving. Showed the ship.
What does being a minimalist actually mean? I'm gonna be so loud.
I'm gonna be so disruptive.
Bing Bong. How is Riley's mom?
Uh-oh. You keep my mom's name out you-
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I'm talking to you Linus.
I'm subscribed to Floatplane.
Not technically. Yeah, I think I'm subscribed enough.
Yeah. I think when you sign the checks to the development team,
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I don't think so actually. All right, for those of you who don't know what people weeks are,
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What does that do? I have no idea.
All right, Dan, hit us with a topic. You know what, Luke?
Hit us with a topic. I'm going to interject here. I got a message from Sammy.
The Floatplane wallpapers are currently unlisted.
Okay. We'll talk about them later. Distribute them.
We'll talk about them later. As long as it's in your brain. Another topic?
Yeah. Yeah, okay. What do you want to talk about, Luke?
YouTube premium prices are on the rise? Oh, it was such a good positive show so far.
Okay. Okay, let's go with something else.
Intel Lunar Lake. No, it's actually, no, it actually looks promising.
Yeah. Multiple outlets have now benchmarked Intel's Core Ultra Series 2 or Lunar Lake CPUs, at
least the Ultra 7 258V.
Unintelligible product names aside. Insane.
The performance appears to fall behind AMD's top end Ryzen AI 9 HX370.
But it is worth noting that this isn't the most performant Lunar Lake SKU.
That would be the Ultra 9 288V, but Intel didn't send that one out for comparison testing.
Despite this, the ArcGraphics 140V IGPU is apparently both faster and more efficient
than the Ryzen Radeon 890M, according to notebook check.
That is only a little bit exciting.
You know, I personally don't necessarily need, you know, 8% faster mobile.
I mean, I won't say no to it. That's fantastic.
But what actually makes me excited about that is maybe Battle Mage won't suck.
Oh. Maybe Battle Mage Dedicated won't suck.
Yeah, okay. Maybe NVIDIA will have some pressure on them.
Come on! Come on!
I really need ArcGraphics to be good.
And the other thing is that the battery life apparently rivals that of the Snapdragon laptops they've tested.
PC World ran it through their standard video rundown test, looping a 4K video at fixed brightness,
and Lunar Lake lasted 21 hours on the 73-watt hour battery.
You know what? I gotta tell you.
Framework investment aside, I never stopped using my Qualcomm laptop.
Like, dude, I love...
Watch this. Watch this. I'm gonna show you a magic trick.
Okay, just wait. Just wait.
It's a good magic trick. It's a good trick. Okay, watch.
Wait for it. It's an exciting trick.
It's not very fast. Look at that. It's not about the speed.
It's about the quality of the trick. I'm a quality trick.
Not fast, though. Not a fast trick.
Look at that. My battery isn't dead.
Yeah. Dude, if you were me, if you were me, okay?
This needs so much more story around it. This trick of yours?
If you were me, okay? You would know that any other laptop in my backpack,
if I pulled it out, it would be dead. Oh, okay.
Because I am really bad about charging it.
And I just...
When I'm using it, I just, like, leave it on for long periods of time,
because I'll be, like, referring back to it for notes. And so it'll just...
My laptop is just always dead, except this laptop.
This laptop? Always alive. I love it.
It's amazing. I have my same, like, very old at this point laptop
that I just drag the cable around everywhere for
and plug in in every room I go to. Dude, like...
It's awesome. Macbook battery life is a game changer.
And I would have loved to enjoy it for the last few years,
except I just can't macOS. I just...
I just can't, like...
And the funny thing is, I think that that was only
the last time I tried or thought about it was,
like, three or four years ago. Now?
I probably could macOS, because pretty much everything I do
has transitioned to a browser.
In fact, I was kind of thinking my next challenge
might be a Chromebook challenge.
Ooh. I have never...
I have never really given ChromeOS a daily driver treatment.
Like a real fair shake. And these days, like, yeah, I'm using Windows,
but I'm using Windows with limited compatibility.
If I'm going to use something with limited compatibility, I might as well open up my horizons to Mac or Linux or ChromeOS.
Not Linux yet. I'm waiting for SteamOS. I want SteamOS before I...
And the Chromebooks are... What the heck?
Chromebooks cost nothing, dude.
I mean, part of that is because they just use cheaper, crappier hardware.
Yeah, but still, like, a hundred bucks? Yeah.
I mean, that's refurbished. That's refurbished. Come on.
But still, yes. I didn't actually notice that part. You're not wrong.
Renewed? Is that the new, like, fun name for refurbished?
Is that what that is? Yeah. Wow.
It's renewed. It wasn't new, but now it is renewed.
Okay. It's new again.
That shouldn't have been allowed.
Anyway, in other news, for Intel, the company released
another microcode update to protect Raptor Lake CPUs from crashing.
Specifically, it prevents the CPU from asking for too much power
when it's sitting idle or performing light tasks.
So, yeah. Well, good luck for them.
I wish them luck with all of those things. I'm actually pretty...
I'm pretty... I know it's stupid and it maybe...
No, it's not stupid. I know that it doesn't affect me personally because, realistically,
I'm going to go for a 5080 or a 5090, this next gen.
I swore I wouldn't go 40 series and I didn't,
but I am still running 30 series or AMD and I am ready.
Better match? I'm ready. I don't think there's going to be a high-end SKU.
Yeah. And I would like a high-end...
We shot a sponsored video this week and, again,
you know, investment, sponsorship, whatever.
All of that aside, I upgraded to a 480Hz OLED.
So good. So good.
Dude. So, I want a faster GPU.
I would like a faster GPU so that I can enjoy more of that
super high refresh rate, high frame rate goodness.
And I'll probably upgrade my CPU too, even though I've already got a 7950X.
I'm probably going to want to go X3D. What I'm hoping is that 50 series and 9000X3D
will drop it around the same time. Or, I mean, yeah, when is Core Ultra 2 or whatever?
When is the desktop Core Ultra rumored to be landing anyway?
I haven't checked lately, but I'm kind of hoping it'll all line up. Handyman is saying that there's 5090 leaks.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's supposed to be like...
We don't really do leaks on Wansho anymore. I don't know if you guys noticed that. We don't really, like, do rumor miller leaks, but...
I don't even know that. Yeah. Well, I mean, we don't...
It makes it... Yeah, you're not wrong. It's just because we don't care.
Like, we can talk about it once it's out. Pretty true. And a lot of the time, the problem with us reporting on leaks
is that we would, like, know. So, it created a bit of a weird...
It does get a little muddy trying to remember what you read online versus what you were told.
Yeah. And knowing where the line is. Yeah.
It is a little sketch. I don't know anything firsthand about 5090, though,
so what I heard is that it's supposed to be 600 watts.
But a real daddy chip, though.
So, 512-bit bus. Whoa.
32 gigs GDDR7. That's the current rumor, but...
Are they going to put real power cables into it?
No, it's probably still going to be...
I heard they might even do two of the high voltage power connectors,
so we'll see how that goes.
What else we got today?
Did we actually do all the announcements? I don't think we did.
Did we do...? No, but let's give them a break from announcements. There's a lot of announcements this week.
Cool. U.S. Bands, Chinese Cars, and Kaspersky becomes the malware.
The current White House administration is planning to ban certain hardware and software made in China
and Russia from vehicles due to the risks of surveillance
and sabotage. The official press release expresses concern that
foreign adversaries could gather information on both American citizens and critical infrastructure...
Valid. ...perhaps to disrupt the operations of said infrastructure.
Valid. The proposal specifically mentions banning
automated driving systems, suggesting the White House
fears vehicles themselves could be used for possible sabotage.
Somebody watched a little bit of Fast and the Furious.
Around the same time, Russian cybersecurity company
Kaspersky started uninstalling its antivirus software
from American computers to comply with its own U.S.
ban, but the company also installed a different antivirus
software on said computers.
While Kaspersky did tell customers via email their existing
subscriptions would be transferred to alternative
antivirus software, Ultra AV, users claimed the auto
installation wasn't mentioned.
However, Pango Group, owner of Ultra AV, claims that
Kaspersky communicated the transition to users starting
on September 5th, including an in-app pop-up stating,
Ultra AV protection will be automatically activated on
your device, which I would immediately think that my
computer had been hatched to all heck.
100%. Ultra AV protection doesn't even sound like a real thing.
No, not at all. I'm sure it is, but it's not what we use and we have a team
of people who determines what antivirus we use, so that's
not something I've looked into a lot personally. I'm just saying that if you don't follow the antivirus
industry, that could easily sound like a fake.
To be fair, a few of them do sound kind of fake.
This is true.
Crowd strike. Sentinel-1.
They're all like so intense. Do you know how many years I called us?
No, never mind. Go ahead. Ninja-1 and Sentinel-1, also being from two different
companies, blows my mind. Anyways, some users were...
Vikas says I'm pro IT and I've never heard of it, so I don't even feel that bad.
Some users were especially freaked out because after using a third-party uninstaller app to completely remove
ultra AV, it just reinstalled itself after they rebooted.
Wow. Very cool. That is actual malware.
Very cool. That is the definition of malware, something that
installs itself without user intervention and without
user consent. I mean, is that not malware?
Well, it could be a form... In their defense, it could be a form of...
It's had a third-party uninstaller app, right?
So it could be a defense.
If you're an antivirus, do you want third-party uninstaller apps to be able to uninstall you?
Yeah. Probably not. Yes.
In their defense, I will put that out there.
If you use the actual uninstaller... I'd still be freaked out.
Yes, 100%. But I think I kind of get it.
Especially if I knew anything about Kaspersky and the
whole situation that's gone down with them and why they
aren't allowed in the United States anymore and stuff.
Just the whole thing feeling sketchy, you know?
Yeah. Okay.
There's a work conversation buried in there somewhere,
but we'll do with that another time.
Reboot remaster update? Yeah, we could talk about that.
Did we talk about that on the show, Dan? I don't think so.
It was a topic for last week, but we didn't get to it,
so it's continued into this week. That's right.
Okay. Let's talk about it. We have been in the background providing a little bit of
assistance. I don't want to give ourselves credit for the restoration
because that goes to other people, but we've been trying to help.
We've been trying to help Mark from Disappearing Inc. and the
Reboot Rewind documentary team with their project to create
high-quality versions of the classic 1994 CGI TV series,
Reboot. A few months ago, we reached out to the community for help
getting the D1 machines in their possession running.
They have since given us an update on their progress and
some side-by-side comparison screenshots.
They have one of three D1 machines running, and they have
captured a few of the 200-plus tapes.
The tapes do require some tender love and care because the
magnetic media is showing signs of degradation, which is a
good reminder of how physical media will degrade over time
and modernization is always an ongoing effort.
We have sourced and now possess a full schematic set and user
manual. Huge thanks to the community for all the leads and a good
reminder to support archival sites. And the tapes and the contents are still the property of the
original studio mainframe. So the captured results are released as approved by
mainframe. This is their intellectual property.
But we do have some comparison images that I would be
happy to show it to you guys. Check this out.
Here we go.
Damn! Do the slider.
Do the slider. It's a slider. Oh, yeah.
Here we go. Here we go. It's insanely better.
Dude. Wow. This is what the artist.
This is what the artist created. This is what 1994 technology could do via broadcast.
Dude. Dude. They look.
That is so sick. They look so good.
That's wicked. Dude. Dude.
Dude. Dude. Stuff like this.
Look how sharp that is. Look how sharp that is.
I need. I need to rewatch this.
Here's the first remastered episode on YouTube.
Hopefully we don't get in trouble for this because like,
please don't. Like we, I swear we did help a little bit.
We didn't do that much, but we did help a little bit. Please don't.
Dude.
Even me watching through YouTube and you guys watching through my crappy stream,
you guys are going to be able to see that this is.
So much better. So much better.
Absolutely sick. Yeah. Yeah.
It's an HD. Oh, so exciting.
We are, we are extremely happy to be even a small part of this restoration
effort. So massive shout out to the reboot rewind documentary team and Mark from disappearing
Inc. What else we got for this week?
Mr. Luke. Do you want to do a couple? Oh, no.
iPhone. It's time for me to get mad.
Oh. It was brought to our attention.
So shout out to the subreddit that ghost keyboards used a photo of me alongside a falsely attributed
quote endorsing their product. I'm actually just going to try and find.
Let me see if I can track this down.
Here it is. I can get in the dock. Okay.
Got this ad from ghost keyboards.
So this best keyboard I have ever used with like kind of, you know, creepy mustache Photoshop
thing. This is from, this is a capture from Elijah's AMD ultimate tech upgrade.
And they are promoting this, this keyboard and they did a sale on it or whatever else.
So here's the situation. If this was just like a meme and obviously fake and just posted on their Instagram, which
they did, they did also posted on Instagram, that would be one thing.
In my opinion, it was not obviously enough fake for one thing.
Or another thing, the quote, okay, if it was just the image, it's already our intellectual
property being used for commercial purposes. That is, that is absolutely not fair use.
The quote makes it much worse because not only in that video did I not say it was the
best keyboard I had ever used. I advocated against buying it and I discussed with Elijah that I felt that it was not very
good quality for the money. So that's issue number two.
Issue number three is that aside from them posting it as a meme on their Instagram or
whatever else, there was a clear call to action for people to purchase this keyboard based
on the image. And issue number four is that it was also sent soliciting members of their email mailing
list to buy the keyboard, to purchase the keyboard.
This goes so far beyond sort of, we didn't know better or like engagement bait or community
engagement or soft collaboration or whatever the case may be.
I know that there's a number of people internally who thought it was funny.
I didn't think it was funny. I think that if it was clearly marked that I did not think the keyboard was a good value,
I did not think that it was something that people should buy.
And if they were kind of memeing on that, Linus says, don't buy this keyboard.
We disagree, buy it, whatever else. There was potentially angles where this could kind of work.
At the very least, we should have gotten a heads up.
We didn't. It just appeared.
Not cool. They have done at least one thing right since then.
Colton reached out to them via LinkedIn, I believe.
They apologized and they have removed the post from Instagram.
I personally think there should be a public retraction and a correction of the record.
I would like to see that happen.
Oh, it's ghost keyboards, those of you asking who exactly this was.
At this point, if that doesn't happen, then I'm not going to threaten any form of legal
action or whatever else it is. They've already removed the offending material.
However, I consider this a pretty solid first strike here and I don't think we'd be open
to collaborating with them in any way, any form, until they have publicly set the record
straight on this. Not cool, ghost keyboards.
Not cool. What else we got?
iPhones are like repairable or something? Dude. That's really cool.
iPhone 16 got a seven out of 10 repairability score from iFixit.
That's crazy. Apple has launched its iPhone 16 lineup, which has demonstrated a significant improvement
over the iPhone 15 in terms of repairability. iFixit has given the 16 and 16 plus a rating of seven out of 10 compared to the four out
of 10 that it gave to their predecessors. That's an actually like enormous jump.
Perhaps the most notable change is to the device's battery adhesive.
This is so cool. The adhesive debonds on command.
This is so cool. This is genuinely very cool when an electric current is run through.
It's so cool. Dude. Sorry.
Sorry. No, I'm going to interrupt. Okay.
I get so angry when I see Apple reinventing the wheel just to like screw people over.
This is sick. Just to make the device incompatible with a third party, you know, version that costs
a third as much, you know, Apple has colossal, monumental, enormous engineering resources
at their disposal. And when they use it to work against the interests of the consumer, it drives me absolutely crazy
because this is what they could have been doing.
That is so cool. So cool. That is so cool.
Huh. Okay. Go ahead.
Well, this will require users to acquire a new tool.
It allows for clean, easily, a clean, easily repeatable process for removing the battery
that limits the potential for unintentional damage during repair.
And it makes it safer. Those pillow batteries, they can be extremely dangerous if they're bent too much or they're
punctured. Yeah. If they're punctured, this improves safety, not just, not for the user.
This time it's for the technician. It's out of consideration of the people who work on these bloody things.
Apparently, good job, Apple. Apparently the adhesive tape is a product, but I don't care.
It doesn't really matter. I don't care. They integrated it into their device.
They did the validation. They did, they did the work.
It's done. It's in the product. It benefits the user.
I love it. The removal process is similar to jumping a car battery and requires a pair of alligator
clip leads attached to a 12 to 30 volt power source.
The user attaches the black cable to a grounding screw near the phone's charging port, then
attaches the red cable to a special tab on the battery.
Really? The, the current will cause a chemical reaction that debonds the adhesive and allows the battery
to easily detach from the device after around a minute and a half.
These batteries also use a hard steel case instead of a soft pouch, reducing the possibility
of puncturing the battery. Also cool. Dude, are we, are we on the timeline where Apple goes back to like, like battery packs?
I mean, we're slowly making our way there. I'd be down with it.
There's so many times that like, I catch myself constantly walking around with my phone tethered
to a battery bank and apparently works with lower voltages.
You can just use a nine volt battery and just, if you can do that, then you don't really
need a special tool. So cool. Yeah.
So cool. Which is awesome. The, the pros battery doesn't feature the new adhesive, but does, but does have the steel
case. The pro max has no battery improvements.
Really? Because they stuffed as much battery in as possible.
That thing gets 27 hours of video playback. Holy crap.
Yeah. So, okay. Nonetheless, both now incorporate the dual entry design that debuted with the iPhone
14, which allows the phone to be opened from the front or the back, which allows many repairs
to avoid removing the fragile screen, which is cool.
iOS 18 also has a new repair assistant while the feature is currently a little buggy.
It allows users to independently calibrate replacement parts so that the device will
recognize them. That's cool. That is cool.
The company is also making device repairs easier by no longer requiring the device's
serial number in some cases, adding a section of settings that shows users the history of
the device's parts and repairs. That's cool. Yeah, why not?
It's also introducing an anti theft feature to block the repair if the new part was from
a phone that had been reported as lost or stolen.
Okay. Yeah. It started off with Apple just fixing its own problem that it created and then ended
pretty cool if they can actually enforce this. That's the thing about sleazy black market people is they're going to find a way around
this. Some arms race. Hey, you know what?
This overall seems like what they're doing is good and to the benefit of their customer
rather than just to milk their customer.
I mean, they are going to milk you, but they're going to at least milk you to your benefit.
It's a mutually beneficial milking. What are we supposed to be talking about?
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All right, we're supposed to do three merge messages now apparently.
Thank you, Dan. You're welcome. How's your thingies doing this week?
They're pretty good. We've sold a lot of cargo pants. Yeah.
They seem to like them. Yeah. Cargo pants.
They seem good. So far, I've been sitting in them for about two hours. They're comfy.
That's good. That's good. Nice.
Luke didn't get any of the pre-production samples, so he's just trying them now.
Direct. On the topic of... Oh, no.
Here it comes. No, I was going to save that for later. Oh.
All right. Oh, fine. What?
Luke, how is Star Wars Outlaws? Ah! Ah!
Last week, those of you who don't have the context, last week, Luke was like, oh yeah,
why is everybody... Wasn't it last week? I think so.
Why is everybody hating so hard on this? I fired it up and I went around the opening area and it seems pretty good and I logged
off and then this week, he showed up on Wen's show set. He goes, I logged back in and...
I'm bored. The lockpicking mechanic is amazing.
I will die on that hill. The lockpicking mechanic is incredible.
It's the best one I've ever ran into in a game ever, personally.
It's great. And then you start needing to do more stuff in the game at all and it's like, ah, okay.
I'm done. I don't know. It's very much, you know that old meme about MMOs where they're like, ah yes, here's a
new quest. Get me that book across the room and then you have to walk over and grab it and bring
it back. It's very much like... It's like, why don't you use the force to get it?
Yeah. You jackass. Yeah.
It's just like, I don't know. I don't think it's as bad as most people are saying, but it's, I don't know.
It's okay. Cool. That's a ringing endorsement.
It's fine. For a like $70, $80 game. Yeah.
I mean, it's better than a lot of other Star Wars stuff coming out.
A ringing endorsement.
But yeah, I don't know.
Get the sabak cheats if you haven't already. What I'm probably going to do now is not launch it again.
Uninstall it. Best mod.
Just, I've got other things going on. I don't have the time for games that are all right right now, unfortunately.
But yeah, I don't know.
Maybe I'll play it again someday, but yeah. You probably won't.
How's Final Fantasy 6 going? Good. Enjoying it more than what is it even called?
Outlaws? Yeah. Oh.
How far are you now? Where am I? Thanks for helping me keep him accountable.
I finished all of my stuff like a year ago. You had so much less stuff to do.
Like a year ago, though. That's fair. Dude, you've had so long.
Like at this rate, you're going to take longer to beat it than I did and I took like 10 years.
Because I first got it when I was like six.
I have free use of the airship. Yeah, I was older. I was older than that.
Now. And we just went through the long series of effectively cinematics.
They're not technically, but effectively cinematics of you talking to the man.
What do they call it again? Espers? You see the Esper like realm and you make a baby.
Oh yeah, you do. And you like go through all those steps and then I have free use of the airship.
And right now I'm trying not to like, you know, just Google everything.
So they're like, yeah, go to that place. I'm like, where is that?
Hey, you got the map. I gave you the map. I do.
He's got the paper map from my physical copy of the game. I think based on that, I figured out where it was, flew over there, landed the ship and
then logged off. Yeah. Okay.
So that's where I'm at. So I haven't actually entered the place to figure out if I actually did find it or not.
But I, I don't know. Educated guess. Okay.
So who's your, who's your mains? Um, what is his name?
Okay. So the, the trader chick that has runic power, I'm not going to even remember anything.
No, I'm kidding. Sal's is great. Okay.
Yeah. So that has the, what is it Blitz moves? Yeah.
It's happened. He's my favorite one so far. I really like the, whatever the one is that sends a bunch of him across the screen when
they're on fire. Oh, fire dance. Yeah.
Yeah. That was great. I don't think it's actually called that in this version.
No, it's not. I'm, I'm like, some of the character's names are even different. So I'm going original, like SNES, Final Fantasy three and he's talking Final Fantasy six.
Yeah. Um, and then the other one is he uses tools and he has autocross bow.
Yeah. Edgar. Yeah.
So those are the four I tend to run. That was four. Well, and then wait, I think that was three.
That was three. So then who's my fellas?
Oh, and the thief guy, but he's like sucks.
Oh, well, why do you mean him then? I don't mean him. He's been with me for a while now because of how the story's been going.
I see. Okay. Yeah.
Don't, don't tell him, you guys, don't tell him. Oh, I'm assuming he like gets good or something.
Yeah. I try to steal all the time and never does anything, but I'm like, I want to try.
So I, I try at least one version of like every mob that I fight, I will try to steal from.
I think it's worked once the whole game. Dude, stealing from mobs is a complete waste of time.
What is it? Don't even bother. They never have anything good.
They never have anything. Yeah, that too.
Yeah, there's, there's the occasional one that's good, like the fossil fangs you can
steal. I think it's, I think it's like elixirs or something from them.
Okay. As, as long as you can get it before they like zombie your whole party and you just
die. There's like, there's stuff that's good to steal from, but for the most part it's a
waste of time. I just, I'm trying to be very thorough.
So like, I think I told you in that one town near the beginning of the game, I was trying
to figure out like, you know, you, you bring the guy alcohol and then let's you do whatever,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it turns out I was doing it like too early, you're supposed to do it the next time you
come back or whatever. So I'm like, I'm trying to be very thorough. I'm talking to everybody.
I'm doing everything. So I don't want to miss something because I didn't try to steal.
So I'm just, I just, every combat almost, you know, when you, when I run into a repeat,
I don't do it again. Yeah. Okay.
Okay. Nice. All right.
Well, glad you're enjoying it. It is, it is truly one of my favorite games of all time. And good.
You've played Chrono Trigger, right? No.
Oh my God. You know, I had a, I had a really good, I had a really good chat with Carl Jacobs at
Creator Summit. Yeah. He is an appreciator of quality games.
I, I don't know. I think I would trust him for game recommendations over you.
I'm sorry. But you just, you're not familiar enough with the classics.
Did you like Titanfall? Yes, I did.
Yeah. Two. Titanfall two.
He, he made me play the single pair campaign. Yeah. All right.
Um, yeah. What was the question? Oh yeah.
Okay. Okay. Dan, carry on.
We haven't. Star, Star Wars. How, how, how like Star Wars?
Yeah, we figured it out. Hello, LLD. Will there be at any point an LTT belt for the cargo pants?
Is this a natural product from us?
Oh, that was perfectly tied.
I don't know how we did that. I want one so bad. The answer is no.
Oh, we have not been able to find a supplier that meets my standards for like, I was excited
cracking and, uh, and or delamination and part of this might just be the nature of leather
goods, but, um, I, it's just, it's this like, it's this like top plasticky layer that basically
everyone in their dog wants to put on them.
And I think we ended up trying like between four and six different suppliers, just looking
for someone who, who could give me something that was just a big old big piece, like, God,
you know, like just, just that, nothing else.
And nobody could do it. And yeah, cause like, if you look at it, it's just like, it's a mess.
Oh yeah. I know I can tell. And this is the kind of thing that I just, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be comfortable selling.
Buddy from the island that made us these is probably screaming right now.
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure if we wanted to like, you know, artisan, you know, make way too expensive
for, make 23 belts, sell 23 belts a year or whatever, like, I'm sure we could figure
it out, but, uh, no, you just need to get natural leather, not finished leather.
Well, like I'm out of metal, like a watch band, maybe we'll figure it out another time.
But the other thing is like back to our conversation earlier about how one of the things that we
look for in any category is, you know, what are we adding to the conversation?
And I couldn't figure out what we were adding to the conversation. If like strap, oh, leather already exists.
Um, like my, my old Kirkland belt lasted a really long time.
Do I really want to go toe to toe with Costco?
Maybe not. What about shirts?
Shirts? Yeah. Our shirts are great.
Yeah. Yeah. Make a great belt.
Oh, well, yeah. Well we haven't found the right great supplier yet.
I'm just saying that doesn't mean you can just never do belts.
You're right. You're right. And, and if we succeed at pants for the first time ever, maybe there's, then maybe we will
look at belts. Sure. That's reasonable.
That's very reasonable. So far cargo pants are looking like they are going to be a success.
And if that happens, then yeah, we want to, we want to do more inseams.
We want to, we want to do, sure. Yeah. Belts.
Yeah. No, I know they're, they're a little short on you. Yep.
Yep. The good news is we've so far sold through probably about a fifth of our inventory.
So yeah, we might move through them all in which case, yeah, we might be able to restock
some of their sizes. Cool.
All right. About one more. What do we got here?
Sure. Hit me, Dan. Hey DLL, I wanted to order a dual sense 30th anniversary controller this week, but they
sold out apparently mostly to scalpers. What can companies like Sony do to combat this relatively shitty behavior?
Hey Dan. Sorry. I just read what was on the prompter.
That was my fault. Whoops. Ah.
Jesus. Is it really just gray? What's just gray?
What if you just got skins that made it gray? No, no. It comes with a cool cable.
Dang it. Oh. It can't be good.
Go scroll down. See if they have a picture of the cable. Where's the cool charging cable?
I thought it comes with a cool charging cable. Dang it. Oh.
It can't be good. Go scroll down. See if they have a picture of the cable.
Ah. Where's the cool charging cable? I thought it comes with a cool charging cable.
There's a whole conversation internally about this.
I thought it comes with a cool USB-C cable.
Oh wait. Cable not included. Seriously?
Okay. Well, what happened to the cool cable? Just go get a gray skin for your controlling.
I mean. Sorry.
It's PS1 gray. I'm sure somebody sells PS1 gray skins.
Probably. I don't know, dude.
This is one of those things. You know what?
Yeah. The behavior sucks. People who actually want it should be the ones who have it.
Totally. But also. It is very difficult to stop.
Yeah. I mean, we tried and I actually think we did a really great job.
We did pretty well. But it wasn't perfect. For example, one of the things that was pointed out about the verified actual gamer program
where we had people play a game essentially as the ultimate recapture to prove that you
were not only a human, but a gamer. One of the things that was pointed out to us after the first few of them was it's not
really accessible. Someone could be a gamer, but not be able to interface with their computer that way.
And we were like, okay, shoot, I'm like, what do you do to be accessible enough for every
person, but also not easily defeated by a program, right?
It's really, really challenging. And I guess it kind of is what it is.
And the good news is that it is a 30th anniversary controller.
It is not water. Yeah, you'll be all right.
And I understand people are educating me.
Apparently the buttons are colored and they're not always colored.
Sometimes their great controller looks like that.
And now it looks like that because the buttons are colored.
Guys, you're not going to convince Luke with that argument.
I think you'll be okay.
I don't know, man.
I was expecting it to be like wicked. And then when you were like, oh, it's the cable.
I was like, okay, this is going to be sick. And then it's great.
The cable is pretty cool here. Let me see if I can find this here.
Luke is not nostalgic. No, I am. It's just okay.
That is pretty cool. Yeah. So it's a USB-C cable.
I like that a lot more than the controller. It comes with the console.
Yeah. That actually looks pretty legit. I like that.
But this is a toy.
It's an expensive toy for adults, but it's a toy.
It's not even a toy that provides access because you can just have any other controller.
It's not like when PS5s themselves were being scalloped
and no one could get a PS5. To be clear, I like cool controllers.
Yeah, me too. I really do. My favorite of my Xbox controllers,
of which I own probably somewhere between a dozen and 15,
is the one that went out to the people
who developed the console. I had full of them, flipped them.
And you know what? I paid way too much money for that controller.
But realistically, it was a fraction of what I paid for my most expensive controller.
It's a bit of an investment. Yeah, if anyone wants to buy a golden Xbox controller,
by the way, the previous buyer flaked. So, you know, get in touch.
He gold flaked. It's very much for sale.
Didn't you want that Gears of War Xbox controller? Yeah, and I got it.
Yeah. But just like, I don't know.
But the Gears of War Xbox controller has like claw marks
in the controller that go into the plastic.
Yeah, they actually did a different mold for it, at least. Yeah.
So, that's something. This is, it is a cool controller.
It has the retro PlayStation logo with the colors on it,
stuff like that, that they should have never ditched, etc.
But it's also, it's just a great controller.
Okay. I mean, okay.
So, confirm pre-order. So, you have to pay $150 on top of the like $80 it is
for the controller or whatever. On top of?
Yeah, I would assume so. Really?
Confirmed order. Yeah. Are you buying an order?
I think you're buying... Or are you buying the controller?
Oh, apparently that Gears of War was laser etched.
So, okay. Either way, like they're doing, it was different.
It was cool. Is this just like nostalgia baiting?
Yeah. Oh, dude, it's 100% nostalgia baiting.
Yeah. 100%. So, you got...
And it's sick. If you were going to buy a controller anyways, this is a cool controller to buy.
But if you pay a bunch of money, you're getting nostalgia baited.
Yeah. Nostalgia baited.
I got it. It's pretty good. Yeah.
It's pretty good. I was reaching for it. I was reaching for it a little bit.
All right. We got a couple more topics here. Why don't we talk about...
The Concorde controller is cooler than the game was.
That looks pretty neat.
Kind of funny that they're selling these. Yeah, it's kind of cool.
Why don't we talk about our friend in the industry?
Ah, yes. The big controversy this week,
the one, the only, MKBHD released a wallpaper app
for your phone, okay, iOS and Android.
And a significant portion of the community
was quite, let's say, put out...
Yeah. ...about this situation.
Their rebels were roused. This is one of those things where,
honestly speaking, guys, I'm not going to comment on the business decisions
of a fellow creator, but what I will say is it was very clear
that the community was not happy
about the option for a $50 a year premium subscription
that effectively paywalled the maximum quality
of these wallpapers
for people who were not interested in that.
There was also some upset
around some of the requested permissions
of the particular app. There was some commentary and some observations
around the quality of the app.
I believe that it turned out,
is it true that it was functionally just linking to a shared Google Drive repo?
It was a Firebase download server,
but there was no authentication on it, so anyone could just download it.
And people set up bots to scrape it because they were talking about how they were going to do...
I don't remember exactly the details, so I'm sorry, but some type of...
Part of the idea of the subscription is that they were going to drop new artist packs
and things like that so you could get new wallpapers all the time.
So people set up bots that were scraping it,
which because they never signed any type of agreement
or anything, they didn't technically even bypass anything.
It's technically legal then. Yeah.
There was also some upset about the revenue share,
which from my understanding was 50-50.
And then even going into the hours leading up to this show,
there has been some upset that Marquez himself
didn't really properly address the community's concerns
on the latest Waveform podcast.
So that's kind of the summary that...
I think that's probably the best summary I can give you guys
of why people are upset. I'll give sort of a short devil's advocate argument here.
At least they're not NFTs. Yeah, yeah, honestly,
they did give you just a straight-up download of the...
I think the word scam is one that gets overused a lot these days.
I saw a lot of people describe the wallpaper app as a scam.
What it is... Not a scam. What it is is, for a lot of people,
probably not a great value.
What it isn't is a scam. It communicates pretty clearly what you're going to get
and what it costs. And what you're going to give up. Yeah.
And if that's a value proposition that is acceptable to you...
Then it's not a scam. You are more than welcome to pay it.
And if that is not a value proposition, then you are more than welcome to not pay it.
That is not a scam. A scam is representing something as something that it isn't.
A scam would be if I said,
go to LTT Store right now
and every order comes with a free,
this secret skin that I have on the back of my phone.
And then it just... I'm still wondering about... And then it just didn't arrive.
Yeah. That would be a scam. Yeah.
It isn't a scam. Hobelstaff says,
but Linus, is there a line where something is bad enough value
that it becomes a scam? No.
That is not what scam means.
Scam means that you have been deceived. You have not been deceived.
You are getting image files.
You are sending money and permissions on your phone.
Those things are all disclosed. Therefore, it is not a scam.
It's not your thing. It's not your bag, baby.
But it isn't a scam. Does that kind of make sense?
No, some people don't see... Some people don't seem to understand this.
I looked up scam. Is it a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation?
Vinnin says, by the same argument, $1,000 HDMI cables are not a scam.
Well, they can or they can't be. If they claim to give you better audio quality
or better video quality, then they are a scam because they don't do that.
If they are just expensive and they literally just say,
there are $1,000 HDMI cables that make you feel
a warm feeling inside for being able to afford them
when other people can't, then that's not a scam.
I am... This shouldn't...
This really shouldn't surprise me that much.
Given how many people... I mean, I started this segment with
a lot of people seem to misuse the word scam.
So I really shouldn't be that confused that a lot of people don't know what it means.
But that's not what scam means.
Scam is fraud. Scam is lying.
Nobody lied. Nobody scammed anybody.
Nobody's money was removed forcefully
against their will.
So it's not a scam.
Would I charge a $50 subscription for wallpaper images?
I was about to say yes. You know what?
Sure. Let's do it.
New. Announcing now.
Here on The WAN Show. Now available at flowplain.com
is the LTT Wallpaper Pack.
I am going to... Can I show the CMS?
Is that okay? Can I show the CMS? That's fine.
I think I just... I'm going to show the CMS.
It'll be fine. It'll be fine. You'll like it. Okay.
I'm showing the CMS. Right now, going live for LTT...
Sorry, LTT supporter OG and LTT supporter
and just text posts. Going live only for LTT supporter plus,
which is available for $10 a month or $50 a year.
You said earlier in the show that you're going to do the $5 one.
No, I didn't. I think you did. Oh, wait.
Oh, yeah. No, no, that's right. Scam! Scam! No, no, I did the math wrong.
He almost scammed. I did the math wrong. But nope.
You got to do OG as well. No, I don't. Oh, but they're supposed to get everything.
No, they only get everything that we originally promised them.
This is new. This is net new. Scam radar.
No, no, no. No. All right.
Tell you what. Fine. Sure.
You will get these wallpapers created.
This actually looks like all Sarah's stuff.
I believe this is all Sarah. Okay.
There's also this. They just kind of scrambled. Yeah.
They just... They did this together in the minutes before the show.
You will be able to get all of these wallpapers.
All you have to do is sign up for Floatplane at at least our $5 a month or $50 a year tier.
Yeah. There you go. Yeah.
Let's see. Let's see. Let's watch people turn this into Linus's
scamming his audience. I'm excited for it. Oh, man.
They did a dead pixel one. Yeah, dog. The dead pixel one could be used.
LTT phone wallpapers for floaties.
Let's go. Woo. Look at that.
Wow. What a wallpaper. Yeah.
Dead pixel. That's on purpose. I was expecting these to be garbage.
What? These are actually legit. What did you just say?
What did you just say? Well, I thought... About the valued member of our team.
No, no, no. I wasn't sure how hard you were going to mean.
Like, you know, when we were doing those sales and it's 9 p.m. and Niklite's only there and he goes like,
he draws a stick figure like more orange shirts. No.
I was surprised at how fast she turned all these around. These are great.
Yeah. The one with the waves on it and the logo is what we use
on the YouTube background as well. That one's pretty damn cool.
Yeah. We've got... Oh, hold on.
Bye. Which ones are the desktop ones? I thought there were...
Oh, wait. No, they're only phones. Yeah.
Here are some wallpapers. No reason why they're uploaded now.
Thank you for that, Sammy.
Okay. I thought we had to... Oh, that makes sense that they would be phone ones.
We got to compete. We got to compete. I mean, to be clear, it's not like we're planning on this necessarily
being like a thing that we do all the time. No, it's really not.
We're just having some fun with it.
So, do I think that this was the world's most brilliant tactical move?
I can't say that based on the community feedback,
it seems like it.
Is it a scam? No. No.
It is factually, by definition, not a scam. So, like...
Calling it a scam is just telling other people you don't understand what a scam is.
Yeah. But I do think... There's maybe...
You know, maybe you count so lucky for that. But I do think that this is, you know, maybe something that needs to be addressed in order
to sort of rebuild goodwill with the community.
And so, that's probably the best advice.
Which I think they're doing, I'm sure they're working on it.
I hope they're working on it. I hope they're working on it.
Funny Hats asks me, what about a rip-off?
I think lots of things are a rip-off. I think that basically any designer label article of clothing is a rip-off.
If I was recently made aware that the T-shirt that the Zuck wears, that just like gray T-shirt
is like 400 US dollars. Of course.
I personally consider that to be a rip-off. He doesn't.
A rip-off, it absolutely could be.
But a rip-off is subjective. Scam is not.
That's where these two terms differ. It's definitely not a scam.
If you think it's a rip-off, it's a rip-off.
That's it. And we could discuss that, right?
But it isn't a scam. That's all. Do you have any idea how many LTT shirts you can get for 400 dollars?
I do, actually. You can get 20.
Well, don't forget about the shipping. Maybe 15 plus shipping depending on where you live.
Okay, all right. All right. Taxes, sure.
Mind you, you have to pay taxes on the $400 shirt, too. Actually, you got to pay shipping on that, too.
Actually, I think we're doing pretty good.
Um, Luke's Birds, unfortunately, this is my last week on Floatplane.
Oh, no, you won't get our second pack of wallpapers.
Just kidding. I don't think we're going to do enough. No, probably not.
I asked Sarah to just kind of, oh, no. Linus, your face is now my MacBook screen saver.
Yeah, okay. That's great.
Guess who just resubbed to Floatplane just for wallpapers, this guy.
The system works. That wasn't the point.
You knew what you were doing. In turn, I was mostly just memeing for the people who are already subscribed to Float
Plane, Dan. They're just PNGs or JPEGs or whatever they are.
There's no, okay. The screen cap, the screen. Yeah, people, yeah, if you want- Right click the YouTube.
If you want to steal it, just there, quick. Press print screen.
You got this. You can go through all. Go for it.
I'm going to do it again. Get the merch message out of there.
Get the merch message out of there. Get that merch message out of there. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. Hold on. I can move it.
No, I'll move it down. I'll move it down. I got you.
No, I got you. I got you down. Okay, here you go.
Okay, quick, quick. That one's a- Quick screenshot that white dot.
Yeah. I actually love that Floatplane one. They also really don't have to be that fast because once they get the vault, they can
just party. They're really cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're like actually good. Well, of course they are. It's Sarah.
Why do you- The stuff that comes out of that company. Why do you guys-
Well, I thought she had like five minutes and would do like one.
I didn't expect it was going to be- She did have like five minutes. She just has a lot of-
She has just a lot of really great artwork that she's worked on over the years.
And it's extremely competent. Yeah.
I like competent people.
I just do. I really do.
Let's play a game. Okay.
Let's play a game really quick.
What do you think will be the dominant misinterpretation of that segment we just did?
Oh, yeah. That's a good one.
Downplaying the privacy stuff.
Oh, okay. Okay. Well, let's address that then.
Let's address that really quick. It's really bad. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Next.
Sounds like in- If I can throw my hat in the ring there as someone who has had to-
In some cases, write. In other cases, work with lawyers to write.
In other, other cases, write and then work with lawyers to write and then re-read it
for them and be like, is this better? And they're like, yeah.
And I'm like, cool. Thanks. Yeah.
That has happened actually. More than once. More than once.
These things- More than he knows even.
I bet. Yeah. These things suck.
And I have no idea. I have literally talked to none of them.
Yeah. I bet you they were just like, hey lawyer people, can you please write one of these for us?
And they were like, sure, Blonk. And just wrote it too aggressive because in a tweet that I saw, I think they were like,
yeah, we're not even gathering all this stuff. We just like wrote it too.
Too harsh. Yeah. I do, I suspect there is some amount of stuff for the free tier, for the advertisement delivery,
stuff like that. And there is, there is some stuff they really just like needed to not do like that.
Like the whole thing about, yeah, took a colossal amount of work to make it launch on Android
and iOS at the same time. When it's a multi, Kotlin multi-platform.
There was a, there was a couple things. Why say that if you like don't, you know, didn't do that.
If it was, maybe give us a ring next time.
We got you. It is actually kind of funny to me how often I watch other creators just like stumble through
things. Making stuff is hard.
When, when, when we already stumbled through it and like they have my digits and like I'd
have been happy to chat with them about it. I don't know.
I, you know, on the other hand though, we, we, we can, we can kind of, we can yolo things
as well. That's a good point.
That's a really good point. We do that literally all the time.
Yep. Uh, maybe, maybe creators just actually kind of suck at reaching out sometimes, including
very much us. Um, there's, there's some, there's some pretty good ones.
There's some pretty good ones in the chat. Um, Linus doesn't understand how words change over time, which is just another way of them
saying they don't understand that scam actually does have a definition and it doesn't mean
that. Uh, we got another one.
Linus is just out to protect other tech tubers, unwilling to criticize them.
Um, we straight up did.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this isn't, no, no, it's not.
Oh, these are theories on what the controversy might be.
Don't be so defensive for once it's him and not me.
This is great. Let's fight. Oh, no, there was another, there was another really good one.
There was another really good one. Uh, Linus criticizes Marquez's wallpapers, then launches his own behind a subscription.
That's the same price.
Actually accurate take. Yeah. Actually accurate take.
Yeah. I love it. Um, Trevor, Trevor W asks bad faith question.
How is this different than your stance on horse armor?
My stance on horse armor is that it, it was the first pebble rolling down the hill that
was an avalanche of colossal sh**ness in gaming, which fundamentally changed how games are
made and played moving forward. Nobody is buying this wallpaper app.
This is not going to change. I guarantee you some people do.
Okay, sure. But this is not going to fundamentally change anything about the wallpaper economy, which
is infinite, infinitesimally, I forget the word, but whatever, it's, it's, it's vanishingly
small. And the idea of paying for wallpapers has existed for decades.
And the number of people who pay for them is still exactly what it is today.
This is going to change nothing is, is sort of why I don't really care about it.
Yeah. I think the negative reaction to it was overblown.
Um, I think the negative reaction to a lot of stuff in this space is insanely overblown
and has been for a while now. I do, I do also understand why, um, like why people were so frustrated in this case.
I mean, because it's someone whose job is to advise people on making good value decisions
when they purchase mobile electronics.
Um, and this doesn't seem to be aligned with that.
Um, I do think that, I do think that there's also some friction that's around just paying
for art. Um, and I think that's contributing to the outrage, but I do also, I do see where people
are coming from. I just think that this could have been messaged better.
It could have been handled better. It didn't have to be a disaster. And I think that in the longer term, it won't be overblown.
Like we saw, we saw like genuinely taking over the internet level trending of people
just like trying to light them on fire and it's like, yeah, it's been a lot, maybe chill.
It's been a lot. Like you can, you can express your.
Like it's not good, but I can personally think of times that would have made more sense to
light Marquez up over. Like it's just, well, no, I, I just, I just mean it's, yeah, it's an overpriced product.
Yeah. Dude. And there's some, there's some, yeah, subjectively, subjectively, by the way, I just got, I don't
know how Crystal manages this, but she manages like something I respond to and basically like
every show it feels like at Linus, we need a scam shirt.
It's exactly the same as every other shirt, but it costs like, but it costs like four
times as much and just says scam on the front.
I am so down and I'm down right now.
I am sending this to Nick and Sarah. I am sending it to them right now.
I will bring you. I will bring you the biggest scam t-shirt that you have ever seen.
Oh, what if you, what if you, it's probably not worth it, but what if you got it like
poorly printed? No, unacceptable.
Yeah. I wouldn't do that. Okay.
Actually, or what if we didn't print it at all? What if it's just our blank shirt and it just costs more?
It's, it's, it's our blank shirt and we just like include a sharpie.
No, we should, we should put like, we should, we should screen print like a little scam
like on the inside. So you'll know you got scammed, but no one else will see it.
It's pretty good. Um, okay. Well, we'll work, we'll work on some concepts for a scam shirt, but what I can promise you
is that it will cost more than our regular shirt.
That's the only thing that I will promise you right now.
It will be more expensive. Why?
Cause you got scammed. Yeah. That's why.
Okay. Oh wait. It's not even a scam.
No, it's not even a scam. Yeah. Okay.
Okay. We'll have to make some. Oh, no.
Oh, this is dangerous. I don't think you're going to actually do it. No, I'm not.
I can't actually. Yeah. Okay.
Well, whatever. You'll think it's a scam. Maybe put scam in quotes.
Okay. Well, we'll, we'll work on it. Well, we're going to work on it.
We're going to work on it. We're going to ship to you and then you just ship them a box.
We could share half of the profits with MKBHD.
People are just, they're offering, they're offering suggestions.
Workshop the scam shirt. No, I'm going to, I'm going to let, I'm going to let Sarah do her magic.
You've already seen her. I just, I think people going in and being like, you've ruined your whole reputation
for everything. Oh, that's so stupid. It's just, but this is, but like there was a lot of people.
That's so stupid. It's like guys, chill.
It's all the people who have never made a mistake. Yeah.
Like it's the never made a mistake crowd. Relax. I don't know.
I don't know. I mentioned this on the pre-show. We're deep enough in the show now.
I maybe I'll just say it, but like honestly, I'm pretty thrilled with Marquez right now.
Oh, you're right. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. He has single-handedly done more to take the heat off of me for a change than any other
human being on the face of the planet.
Thank you, Marquez. For once, I am not the most controversial tech tupper.
It's nice. It's nice.
Yeah. I feel like I need like a celebratory donut or something.
Like I just, it feels good, feels good.
Send them like a thank you cake or something.
Mind you. Mind you. Now that we've, now that we've launched our own, our own wallpaper subscription, maybe
we'll be embroiled in the same controversy that I mentioned.
You can get yours now at Floatplane.com slash post slash Z4G, well, whatever.
You'll figure it out. Yeah. You guys will figure it out.
Yeah. Oh my God. This is so funny.
Apparently all the wallpapers already posted on Reddit. Yeah, of course they are.
This is, dude, this is great. Look at the comments on this.
I never thought I'd sub to Floatplane. This was too good of a deal. I think I missed some context.
Why is everyone saying scam? I know it's a joke, but, oh my goodness, this is amazing.
Yeah. Thank you guys so much. I used Riley24 to subscribe and download these.
That's pretty good as well, actually, because they're tracking that to see how well the,
the concept works. Oh, thank you. Thank you.
We genuinely appreciate your guys support, by the way. Floatplane pays for our development team.
It pays for people like Sammy to do their jobs, bringing you guys great behind the scenes
content. Thank you. Thank you very much.
The wallpapers, if you decide to throw a couple of bucks at it, hey, we, we, we got to pay
Sarah somehow. You should probably after downloading them, go check out the exclusives or something,
which is what the platform is like actually for. It's very unlikely we're ever going to upload wallpapers again.
This is not a wallpaper thing. Also we might be bringing back some early access.
Oh, cool. Yeah. Not all across the board, but selectively.
To add to the Floatplane fund, we're doing an early access release for our newest secret
shopper. This time, who are we secret shopping?
I'm actually pretty excited about this.
Framework. We secret shopped framework. Linus is not involved.
They don't know. They don't know. Wait, did we talk about this last week?
I don't think so. Oh, okay. So I, I'm pretty sure I learned about it today.
So yeah. They don't, they don't know.
They are finding out probably now, right now.
Yeah. Someone's sending a frantic message. Which order was it?
Yeah. Did you have them shipped here? No.
Yeah, I didn't think so. Of course not. Yeah.
Also I didn't have them do anything. Well, yeah. We, I, I, this was all.
Apparently it was mentioned last week. I don't remember that. Okay.
Weird. Well, it was all delegated. I recused myself.
Anyway, it comes out tomorrow, September 28th on Floatplane and then later on in the
week on YouTube. Cool. Finally, the last announcements thing, we gotta, we gotta pair these down a little bit
next week. Yeah. Is Ridge Wallet Collab.
We've been working with Ridge for five plus years. Oh. Oh, sick.
And we finally got around, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, I'll get this.
We finally got around to doing a proper product collab.
This is on a wallet that we'll be launching on October 1st. It has a cool circuit board design from our one and only Sarah Butt.
And it comes with both a cash strap and a money clip.
And it has extra silver screws in the box so you can change the look according to your
tastes. Yeah. You had to drop something.
Well, look. Okay. I saw the sticker and I was like, wow, I'm surprised you can save that.
All right. So there you go. There's your money clip.
And then there's the super cool, like, circuit-inspired design.
It's sharp. Very cool. All right.
What else are we talking about today? Oh, wait.
Is this after dark, Dan? We... I can never tell anymore.
No. We're not in after dark yet. It says that on the thing.
What's wrong with your phone, dude? That means you're supposed to do it. You can talk about that in after dark.
Stop. We've got, what, 45 minutes left?
Did we talk about YouTube premium prices going up? I don't think so. Well, they're going up in a lot of parts in the world and that's a bummer.
Okay. There. We did a quick one there.
We might see Hi-Fi Rush 2. That's exciting. Nice.
Floppy Bird Returns, but it's a scam.
Okay. Might actually legitimately be a scam, not sure, but maybe.
Don't do that. And Discord introduces Dave. They're rolling out end-to-end encryption for audio and video calls.
It will not, however, be encrypting text communication, right, which they say is to facilitate moderation
and ensure safety on the platform. But if it's an audio call, then you don't need to anyway.
Discord's current moderation involves both user reporting and a combination of image
hashing and machine scanning to flag CSAM. Other forms of automated moderation are controlled by community moderators on the server level.
The full technical details for Discord's audio, visual, end-to-end encryption protocol, which
they call Dave, is outloaded, outlined in a white paper they've published.
Likewise, its backing libraries are open-source to allow for public transparency and scrutiny
by security researchers. At least it's progress. I'll say that much.
Sure. All right. Let's switch over to Afterdark.
Shall we? Yeah. Yes.
We shall. Okay. Phone time?
While he gets set up? Oh, okay. Yeah.
Really? Is this that important to you? Just what is?
Why won't you say it? I think that's why I'm so interested. I'm being baited.
So Dan, can I ask you to do me a big favor? Yes.
It's not going to be an easy favor. Oh, boy. What are you trying to do?
I need the entire place to go completely dark.
Oh, okay. Can you do that? I think that's actually pretty easy for them.
Ideally this one last. Which for the overhead?
Yes, sir. Feel free to do a merch message or something in the meantime, Luke.
Oh, there's a bunch in there for you.
Okay. Uno momento.
And then I've got to get the back ones.
The back ones are manual. We have to climb a ladder. No, we just turned all of everything off.
Oh, well, I have to climb a ladder. Maybe Dan can reach.
Okay, let's see what this breaks. Should be nothing.
You ready? Oh, God. You're turning off the battery backup?
Yeah. Okay. Ready?
Yeah, I guess.
Whoa. Whoa. That's so bright.
Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to have to play around with the focus a little bit here.
Yeah, because it looks way better in person.
It's going to have a hard time in the dark, I think.
That's very bright.
So, chat's actually asking the same question I have.
How much radiation? Well, how much radiation?
Well, it's just glow-in-the-dark. Yeah, what is it? Are we still live?
Okay, yeah, we are. Sorry, what? What makes it glow-in-the-dark?
It's cool.
What is it? It's cool. Why are you being so cagey about your phone skin?
Because, I don't know, some stuff might happen.
Did you make this? How is it for that phone?
I think that's the thing that's been driving me the most. What?
The Samsung Galaxy Note 9? This is a popular device that many people still enjoy.
How do you have a... So, this was custom-made for you.
Man, it's textured, too. Isn't that cool?
That's really nice, actually. Pretty cool, hey?
It's also our company's orange. I don't know what you're talking about.
Interesting. It feels nice.
Yeah, I know. Kind of grippy, kind of feels good.
Yeah, interesting, right?
All right.
Cool. Okay. I'm sure I'll have more to say at some point.
Yeah. But... Photo fluorescence?
Is that fine? All I know about glow-in-the-dark stuff is they used to do it with incredibly radioactive stuff.
That was a long time ago. Ethically sourced radon, now.
I'm just going to give them a closer look at it.
You can feel free to do it. It looks sharp.
All right. For Luke. Hey, when?
Luke, if you can share what is the flow plane algorithm for deciding username color on a live?
In live chat, yeah. I guess live chat. Yeah.
We're just stopping it there.
We're not doing the... Oh, there's a lioness question after that.
I see. Okay, got it. I don't remember.
That's entirely a Jaden thing. I think it's a secret.
If I remember correctly, I don't think it's a secret.
Yeah, Conrad's saying it's just a hash table. I thought it was either that or it was the first letter that it was based off of.
You can see the texture. Yeah, there you go. If I remember correctly, you can even play with the capitalization of your name and it
will change it or something. I don't remember exactly how it works.
If you ever see Jaden in the chat, poke him and he'll be able to tell you if he feels like
it or he won't because he might not feel like it because he's not on shift.
Sounds about right. I'm not going to tell him what to do. Yeah, that's it.
Lioness, how do you feel about PlayStation raising the prices on Horizon Zero Dawn?
Is this for the remaster or whatever? It's like it's $10 more, but now it's the remaster or something?
What are we talking about?
Raising the price? I heard something happened, but I don't know.
I don't know. It costs however much it costs. If you like the price and you buy it at the price, if you don't like the price, you
don't pay for it. PlayStation quietly raises Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 price following remaster announcement.
Yeah, I guess don't buy it.
I mean, I don't know, guys. Come on.
Yeah, it sucks. Games cost a lot of money, but you had five years to buy Horizon.
When did Horizon Zero Dawn come out?
Horizon Zero Dawn release PS4 because I bought it on PC three years ago, I feel like.
This game came out in 2017. It came out seven years ago.
If you wanted to play it, just play it.
I don't know, guys.
It's a scam there. It's a scam.
It's a scam. It's a scam.
I mean, I'm not a fan of game prices going up, but like honestly, we've talked about it
extensively on the show before. The fact that game prices haven't gone up a lot more is crazy.
I feel like it's been a standoff where different companies are just like, who's going to go first?
Dude, there's probably more people who work in the marketing department of a modern AAA game
than worked on Super Mario World in its entirety, right?
And that was a $60 cartridge back in 1994.
93? When did Super Mario World come out?
It wasn't 92, was it? I think it was 93. Was it two?
1990! Good lord! Right?
So, yeah, games are flip and expensive.
I mean, do I think the whole, we're remastering a seven-year-old game thing is a little bit ridiculous
and sort of, you know, playing around with the hype cycle and the fact that it's in the news
and raising the price or whatever, it's like, yeah, sure, whatever.
But realistically, guys, this is games. Wait another three months and it's probably going to be on sale again or whatever
and you can get it for a lower price. Like, I really, yeah, I don't think it's, I don't think it's that big of a deal personally.
I'm sorry. Man, I'm going to, I'm going to get in trouble.
Okay, I see. I knew there'd be more to it.
Naturally, people saw the, this is, I'm reading off of dual shockers.
I'm going to just share my screen because they seem to have actually pretty good coverage of this.
Naturally, when people saw the price spike of Horizon Zero Dawn, it left them scratching their heads, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's like almost doubled in, or it's effectively doubled in price.
Following the title of this article is it closes a loophole.
So I was like, what does that mean? Apparently, if you own the original version, you can upgrade to the remaster version.
So they released the remaster version at this price. People were just buying the old one and then upgrading.
Oh, I've got it. Okay. So.
Okay. Well, that makes sense. Luca 103 on the subject of scams asks, where's your iPhone Linus?
After I shot the ShortCircuit, they needed it for some other content.
So they're going to give it to me when they're done with it. 16?
Yeah, I'm going with 16 plus. You're going to run one? Yeah.
Like mainline? Oh, yeah. You're going to put that away?
Yep. Wow. It's going away.
It's going away. D Starfire actually, there's a couple of questions from Floatplane chat from earlier.
D Starfire asked, I've always wondered, what is LMG stance on like the LTT GIFs and Discord and stuff?
Like that. We don't mind that kind of thing. This was in response to the ghost keyboards situation.
Oh, you're not marketing something with an endorsement with Linus?
Yeah. Yeah. You're not creating a fake endorsement of a product that I explicitly said I don't think
is a good value. Yeah. I think the gifts are hilarious.
Yeah. We are pro community engagement and community use of our likenesses.
Any time some like meme face of me takes over the subreddit for a little while, it's great
fun. Tora Melkson asks, how's the cat?
I realized after I said that the cat was at the vet.
I never really gave an update. He's doing great. We don't know what exactly his deal was.
He was favoring a leg a little bit. Maybe he just did something stupid because he's a dumb kitten and he got a little bit
of inflammation, got a little bit of a fever and then they just gave him an anti-inflammatory
and pain killers and he was fine in like two days.
Cool. So yeah, he's doing great. All right.
What's up? Lee and Lee. I chimed in a while back asking Luke if he had played body cam and his opinions on it.
Is there any updates? And if so, how does he feel about the camera movement and mechanics?
Did I ever talk about it? I don't know if you ever did.
There was a brief discussion about it when it sort of just first.
Yeah. I thought that might have been on the pre-show though or it might have been off camera.
I remember talking about the laser scans and the details and things like that.
But never went back to it. I hated it.
Sorry to the body cam. Tell us how you really feel. Was it a scam?
Yes. No, no, no, no.
It has a really interesting aesthetic.
They did, they cooked. They did interesting things with it.
But there was parts of the game that were just like, what?
Like if you, it was the gameplay that I was playing was like seeking destroy style where
when you die, you're out until the next round, right?
But you would then be able to pilot a drone.
So you could just fly around the map almost no clip style because you have a drone,
find where they are, and then the in-game voice chat, you could tell your teammates where they were.
Oh, well, that seems like an oversight. So stupid.
That's a scam. So my team had one less player than their team.
The, the Katie ratios of everyone on our team was better than them in general,
but we would just always lose because it would come down to a one, like it just, I don't know.
Skill issue.
Probably. I was pretty bad to be completely honest.
I did not do well, but it was also super annoying.
Like you, you would actually get someone and you'd be stoked and then you'd hear the drone come around.
And it's like, oh, okay. Guess I'm screwed.
Nice. Like, and you just, you hear the voice chatting drone telling them where you are.
It's like. I racer six says they will announce a scam shirt next week, calling it now.
You must have missed the part of the show where we said we are going to do a scam shirt.
Yeah. Yeah. And it like, it was, it was one of those games where they're like, it's realistic.
So they just made it like feel horrible. Oh, sure.
Like you're super clunky and like coming to a stop is really slow and like, no, it's
really not actually that slow. We don't have to play this way.
People can turn on a dime pretty quickly. Yeah.
Um, I don't know, but it is the, you know, the aesthetics are really interesting.
What they did with it is really interesting. Just I did not enjoy the gameplay and I did not enjoy the gameplay mechanics, like the
whole drone thing and stuff that drove me nuts. Um, so I bailed out, but yeah, I'm going to try to dump through some more Luke ones.
Here. The reviews are in for our wallpaper app.
Nice. Nice. It's pretty good.
Uh, hi, Wansho. Question for Luke. What are your thoughts on companies asking employees to return to office such as Amazon?
Um, I'm glad I don't have to answer this.
I just asked Luke. I, I don't know.
I think. I think just like with pretty much any situation, a lot of it's going to come down to the management.
Um, I think there are people I have.
Hmm. Can I talk vaguely enough about this? I think so.
I have employed people that didn't work out because in my opinion, they weren't necessarily
a bad worker, but they were not capable of work from homework.
Um, they, they were.
You could, you could kind of tell they were not, you know, they weren't doing it.
They probably needed more micromanagement. They probably needed more.
Someone can literally see what they're doing all the time, level micromanagement.
Um, which you can't effectively do with work from home.
This whole like monitor their mouse movement thing, whatever, you will always lose that
war. And also just, can we not?
Yeah, that too. Like companies are never going to win.
So they, can we just not, they shouldn't even do it. Yeah.
Because it's like invasive and weird and you're not going to win anyways.
So just stop. Yeah. Um, but properly managed teams with good people that are going to be honest and do their work,
work from home versus work in office. I don't know.
It doesn't really matter. At this point, I think it's like easier to manage people that are work from home.
I think you navigated that really well. The tough thing is that I feel like in our super polarized world, I need a, I need a more
aggressive take. No, no, no. It's not that.
No, no, no. In our super polarized world, you're either with us or you're against us.
And so I think for you to, I think that, you know, you would talk to the Kevin O'Leary's
of the world or whatever else. And if you say anything other than the employer has the absolute right to dictate when and
where the worker works, then they'll be like, this is communism.
You know, and to be clear, I don't know Kevin O'Leary. I don't know.
I just, every time I, every time I read anything about his take on something, it's usually what
I disagree with. So I just, so I'm just picking on him essentially.
I don't know exactly what his take is on this, but I'd probably disagree with it.
And then on the other side, you've got like r slash anti work that basically goes, I should
work when I want, however I want, and if I want, and whatever else.
And there's sort of this like, for you to have sort of a middle ground feels impossible.
Like for you to say something like, you know, yeah, sometimes the employer, you know, abuses
their, their power, you know, that's going to upset your, your, your capitalist fat cats.
And for you to say, sometimes the worker is not in good faith, contributing positively
to the success of the company that by the way, it pays their, you know, paychecks, then
the other crowd is going to be up in arms because no person could, whatever do that.
What you're saying is I just pissed off everybody. Yeah, kind of nice. Nice.
I don't know. What would be your centrist? Yeah.
I also have people literally on my team right now that I think I could objectively say just
work better by working from home. More on task, if anything, like that type of stuff.
Like there's just people are people and people are different.
Oh dude, this is great. Slow playing chats, lighting up with just like dumb that Kevin O'Leary has said.
Oh man. Oh man. I don't know.
I don't even like, he was on Shark Tank, right?
Yeah. The Canadian one. Oh, okay.
Yeah. The like, you know, whale tank. I don't know what it's called.
Salmon tank. Anyway. Beaver Dan.
Anyway. Yeah. The reality of it is is there are.
Faith and bad faith bosses and there are good faith and bad faith employees.
Yeah. And any kind of blanket this and only this is the interpretation of the situation is wrong.
Yeah. Period. Yep.
It's a different type of management. It also takes a sometimes, not always, but sometimes it takes kind of a different type
of employee. Yep. I think it can be beneficial for some people.
I think it'd be negative for other people. I think sometimes if it is negative for that person, they might be willing to make certain
compromises to make it work. If it like saves them a bunch of money or if it saves a bunch of time or whatever else.
I've also found that if it's negative for people, they tend to be the kinds of people
that lack the self-awareness to recognize that it's negative for them.
That is almost certainly also a thing.
I think that's also on both sides though. I think. Yeah.
I think sometimes when. I think that's fair. If you want to figure out how to manage remote employees, they will just say, oh, this system
doesn't work. It's easy to blame. All these people are bad and I'm good and no one else, blah, blah, blah, when realistically
it's just, it's a, you know, if you are on a remote team and you like it, try to do good
by it if you want it to stay existing because there is a bit of a war on this stuff going
on right now. Unrealistic about its potential downsides is not going to help.
And I also think that there is, there's bad faith arguments on both sides, you know?
Absolutely. Yeah, it is what it is. How about some more Luke ones?
Hi, Luke. I have an avid active curler from California.
Sick. Yes, we curl in California. In California.
Yeah, you have me. Not going to lie. They had us in the first half and you have other recreational sports or is that it?
My question is lead, second, vice or skip?
Which one are you usually playing also prefer draws or hits?
Oh, generally hits, no idea what we're talking about hits.
Are you a curler from California? I only hear them called takeouts.
I'm probably wrong. They're probably right. I bet you a hit is when it, anyways, don't worry, it doesn't matter.
I believe I'm usually second. My dad is always the skip and I don't foresee myself ever playing curling if it's not with
my dad. So I will not be that role.
Nice. Usually my brother's the lead. I'm second.
My uncle or someone else playing depending on if my uncle can make it or not is third
and then my dad is skip. Yeah, it's basically just the order that you throw the rocks in.
No, I know. First, second, third. I've curled.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. What do you say?
First, second and third. It's just last, but it's essentially like the team captain of sorts.
I'm sorry. I was just, I was a little thrown off because you like kept forgetting your dad's name.
What? It's Rob. It's not skip.
I know the positions. Okay. That's my uncle.
Oh, that's actually pretty funny.
Terrible. But no, it's not even just the throwing order. Each one of them has like slightly different roles and responsibilities.
Anyways, most of it lays on the scoop. And that I don't know anything about because I've only ever done it once.
Yeah. All right. Okay.
Back up to the top. Hi, DLL. Notice the new ad insert tests compared to the normal ones on recent videos.
Can you talk about these? How are they doing? Any learnings enjoying the change up personally?
I got to tell you guys, I'm as surprised as you to see some of them.
The one where my son gets swapped out with Dennis was a little jarring.
Oh, I did see that. That was not, that was not in the version of the video that I reviewed.
Normally, I'm the final pass review on LTT videos.
I did not see that. I thought it was really funny.
It was funny. Yeah. Yeah.
I think we're just, we're trying to, we're trying to have fun with it a little bit.
We used to do more of that kind of stuff and then we just got kind of formulaic and
that's Dennis's job now is to make our, make our sponsorship spots as engaging as our
content. I think he's, sorry, excuse me, I think he's doing a really good job in terms of making
it more engaging. I think that the team is still kind of working on, you know, what KPIs look like for sponsors
to, to drive more revenue from it. But if nothing else, if we're entertaining you guys, then we consider it a good investment
I think. Yeah. It doesn't all fall into my department now.
You got to understand that everything that I say now comes from the perspective of a
member of the upper management, but not the one who makes, even when he doesn't show up
to upper management meetings, not the one who makes all the decisions. I show up sometimes.
Sometimes. Yeah. And I get summaries.
You can, I told, I told you, I told you, you can always like call me in if you need,
you know, help back up on something or whatever. I told you that.
It's not even necessarily that. I think your general input on things would be good though.
Well, and you can always table something for a future discussion.
If you're just like, yeah, I've known Linus for 1000 years and I feel very strongly that
as the investor, primary shareholder of the company, he would think this is phenomenally
stupid. Like we can always have conversations. Nothing's set in stone.
We, we make it, we try to make decisions as a team.
And I do think we do a pretty good job. I just think sometimes it's surprising the amount of times that the discussion goes
to what would Linus think?
And it's like, wow, this would be insanely more efficient if he was here and said what
he was thinking. Okay. But I got like videos to shoot.
I know. The challenge is like if all I had to do was be an executive, I could, I could probably
do a pretty good job of it. I'd be bored as hell. I, I struggled to stay on task in that way.
I, I like creating reports and. It's a weird world.
I'm doing reports. Like I can kind of do it. Like I can hyper focus and I can like power through it.
I don't know if you probably got a bunch of emails from me like one morning.
Yeah. Yeah. I, I understand.
This doesn't even. I went through like 300 unreads in my inbox and just like powered through it on a flight.
And then like that's the kind of thing I can do, but I'm, I'm more of a, I'm a sprinter.
I'm not a marathon runner. And, um, and I'm just like, I, I don't know, I just, I get pulled in all these different
directions and I, I enable it. My behavior enables the way that people pull me into side conversations and like, like
talk to me about things. So I guess what I'm saying is I'm more than happy to do that.
Yeah. But, um, yeah, I won't be in exact meeting every time.
Um, anyway, the point is, um, yeah, I'm a member of the exec team, but everything that
I say is a perspective of mine now. It's not just what the company is doing.
I am not the CEO. The company's big and there's a lot of execs.
And I, I had a conversation with Terran yesterday that was basically like, he was like, uh,
you know, yeah, uh, you know, are we, are we doing this?
It was like something that he wants to do that I was kind of lukewarm on.
And I was like, well, you said we're doing it.
So we're doing it. Like, and I was kind of, I was kind of joking with him.
I was like, you know, if I, if, if I give you the title, it's not a title.
It's, it's a responsibility. And so, you know, um, as long as you have the title, until such time as you are fired,
um, you have my sword, you know, like, Is there, do you, do you ask shareholders permission to do things?
You, it would be more the board of directors, but the board of directors would often represent
the interests of the shareholders, theoretically, everyone is sort of
representing the interests of the shareholders, but members of the board of
directors, especially in smaller companies like ours, are often the shareholders.
People are tagging me and they're just saying warm.
Nice.
Yeah. Cause I mean, I think it's, I think it's still in, in Terran's defense, I think
it's still valid to ask the shareholders what they want.
Yeah, absolutely. No, it is, it is a hundred percent. Yeah.
And, and, and, and for me, my role is not to micromanage that.
It's to set the direction. And, you know, if there's a particular, let's say a personnel decision, or if
there's a, like, uh, like an investment decision, um, like if there's some,
some kind of action in both of those, him going to, I mean, I mean,
defend Terran mode now. Um, he's doing great in both of those.
I'm not saying you're saying he's not doing great. I just, in both of those situations, um, vision man makes sense to consult in both
of the things that you just described and depending on the impact, severity,
et cetera, of those things, consulting shareholders might also make sense.
Sure. But what I'm trying to say is that what I will probably say is here's your rope.
Which is fair enough. Use it to go as far as you can or use it to hang yourself.
Well, it's an expression.
Fair enough. Right. Cause that, that's the way it is. That's what, that's what leadership is.
You either, you have to be given the leeway to successfully lead until such time
as you lose the confidence of the board of directors and then you're fired.
Right. Like, cause it's the top, it's the top position in the company. It's realistic.
So you either are capable of leading or you've lost, or you've lost confidence
and you're done. Right. Like there's no real, like it's not like I can be like, Oh, well, why don't we
demote you to VP of happiness or whatever.
Right. Like, is that, that's not how that works when someone is brought in to lead.
I feel like that is a role that some company has somewhere.
I mean, probably, but I don't think Taryn would be the one to occupy it.
That guy is the worst resting face. It's, it's pretty bad.
I'm used to it at this point. It doesn't phase me anymore. Yeah. And to be clear, I'm not saying anything about him that I haven't told him to his
face multiple times. Yeah. Yeah.
We, he told me like almost immediately. He told you that.
I suspect he probably, yeah. I was going to say it was incredibly important for him to say that.
Otherwise I would have been crying every time I talked to him.
No, you get used to it. Like, if I know and everybody's like, no, he's just like this, then it's like,
okay, yeah, I can, I can, I can handle that. That's just like this.
By the way, that's great. Oh, what now? What is a chief happiness officer?
Oh my goodness. Yeah, you can't have a chief happiness officer without that is the most
dystopian term I have ever heard in my entire life.
Beatings will continue until morale improves.
All right. Top performers get an additional one minute break.
Dear Linus, if ad block is piracy, but closing your eyes isn't, then what is your opinion
on a robot that detects ads and puts a blindfold over your face until it's over?
Kind of joking, but also curious. I'm going to ask, have either of you seen Black Mirror?
I should. There are only seen bits and pieces. First season, 15 million merits.
There is actually this, they're forced to watch advertisements or they can pay to
make them stop. And if you cover your eyes, a rising tone gets louder and louder and louder.
And it says resume viewing, resume viewing.
And you have to watch it in order to.
You know what I think? I think it's a scam. Yep.
Scam. Yep. Okay. I'm going to give you a serious answer.
It's the automation. It's the automation that makes it that.
So anything you do, anything you do manually and then resume manually, that requires
your attention because that's essentially the payment. The payment is attention.
It can be attention on the ad. It can be attending to not paying attention to the ad.
I, I don't look at ads. I mean, we've talked about this extensively.
Like I, I actually, it is a matter of personal pride that I do not like to be
influenced by ads. Occasionally, I'll click on stuff very, very occasionally, but I don't like doing
it and I will actually go out of my way to just like avert my eyes for nine
seconds and then like check back in, but attention is the form of payment.
So you're either paying attention to when it's over or you're paying attention to it playing through.
Um, and anyway, it's not piracy, it's privateering.
We've been through this. Yeah. Yeah.
Interesting take. Hey Linus, looking Dan, during a fresh Windows install Windows update downloaded
and flashed my bias on restart. Is there an end in sight for the amount of power Microsoft is taking lately?
Actually, hold on. I want to go back to the other thing for a second. It's also, it's also down to like, I'm not condemning anything.
Whatever you're comfortable with, you just do your thing there.
Uh, okay. Is there an entity to be fair?
Um, actually the, the BIOS flashing thing, I believe that's more down to the
system integrator, like that would never happen with a custom machine.
So I don't think this is really Windows. Um, this is more a Windows update having a functionality that the system
integrator is choosing to make use of, um, as opposed to Microsoft, um, seizing power.
There's plenty of Microsoft abusing power lately that we could point out.
I don't think this is it.
All right. Okay.
What else? I gotta make sure that that is broadcast.
Since LMG has such a wide array of different jobs, how does growing in your own
field look like, for example, graphic designer, particularly with the
continual growth of the company? Like a lot of small slash medium, I think technically we still qualify as small
by a lot of definitions. Um, like a lot of small companies, we struggle with this.
Um, cause, and we've had to, in some cases create sort of, I don't want to call
them artificial because they are reflective of the increased experience and or
compensation that is associated with them, but we've had to kind of create new
segmentations sometimes within roles that previously would have been the same.
So we previously had writer. Now we have junior writer and senior writer.
Um, in order to take, you could take a piece from like Silicon Valley tech stuff
where you have like numbered levels. Yeah. Yeah.
Something like that would be one good thing that could come from Silicon
Valley tech. Um, I'm sure it's misused for horrible reasons somehow.
It's absolutely something that we have looked at a little bit and it's
absolutely something that we haven't looked at enough and haven't solved.
Linus, I remember you saying you had to go to Saskatoon to get your tie can.
How did you like your visit to our flat chunk of dirt?
I did not say that. Um, this, this kind of thing, this kind of thing happens a lot.
I read a lot of things that I apparently said that I definitely never said and
definitely never happened. Um, I imported it from Quebec.
So you're close. Just got the province wrong and you got who went where wrong.
Um, however conveniently I have been to Saskatchewan.
I think I, I think I drove through Regina though, which, which one does, uh,
which one does the one road go through? Um, I'm sorry.
It was a long time ago. I was, I was 16 years of age, but I did drive through the prairies.
I didn't really think they were as flat as people make them out to be.
Yeah. I went through Regina. I did not go through Saskatoon. That would, oh boy, would that ever have been a long way to the way.
Um, yeah. I mean, they were like, they were flat, but I just, the way people talk about it.
It's like, yeah, you could see for like a thousand miles and every dirt. I mean, like, yeah, it's sort of like there's rolling hills and stuff.
Like at least, uh, at least in the, the, the bottom part of Saskatchewan
that I drove through, uh, Regina, you guys, Regina, it's a city.
Calm down. I knew it was going to happen immediately.
Immediately. All Canadians giggle too. Good job, chat.
Uh, question to Linus. Is there any other tech or house dream upgrades you want to make?
Thanks for all the amazing content. Um, I don't know.
It's all like kind of awesome. I'm getting pretty stoked on something we're going to be working on.
I forget. Um, no, not us. Oh, cool.
Uh, we, as in myself and Emma, um, my roommate is gone.
Yeah. Birds were sick, which sucked. They were gone for a long time.
It was very expensive, but that let us, you know, get crazy chemical carpet
cleaners in there. Nice. I just really like clean things up. Um, not a great review of your former roommate.
For the whole house in, in his defense, it was pretty bad, but we did do it
for the whole house. Um, and we're going to be moving all the like computers and stuff in there.
And we're already kind of planning out. There's still more things to plan out, but you know, um, both
deaths against one wall with like a little island in the middle for where the birds are going to go and stuff.
It's going to be, it's going to be pretty cool. Sick. It's going to be cool.
I can't really think of any, uh, any tech upgrades that I need to make right now.
My, my tech setup at my house is like kind of awesome.
No, I'm going to. Oh, okay.
No, I'm curious. Uh, it's, it doesn't really matter, but what, go away.
Uh, does stopping a long form YouTube video and finishing it later or the next
day negatively affect the creator? I can't answer for sure, but what I can say is that probably that would
actually be a positive signal. Uh, we have videos that have extremely low retention, but extremely long,
uh, strong performance over time. Um, here, let me see if I can just, uh, what is happening right now?
Go analytics is a weird or YouTube analytics is a weird.
Yeah. So here magic here, check this out. Um, we're just going to share my screen real quick here.
So how to build a PC, the last guide you'll ever need. Let's, let's look at the original one.
This retention graph is absolute poo poo.
Like by the end of this video, only 16% of people are watching this video.
And yet this got served for a whopping 12 million views on the platform.
So like for context here, okay? Let's take something, um, let's take something more recent.
Okay. Can you have too many Wi-Fi routers? Obviously it's a much shorter video, but you can, you can clearly see here.
We're looking at more like by the time of the end sponsorships, 45% is above
typical retention, right? By the time we reach the end, I don't know, 1.3 million views.
Let's not, let's not, let's not serve that as much, uh, YouTube home down
YouTube recommendations down. Uh, why would that be?
Because the first video I showed you guys is reference material.
The overall watch time is huge because it's like two hours long.
So that 16% or whatever it was at the end amounts to longer watch time.
YouTube wants you on the platform. The other thing is that people look at it, they go, well, that's nice, but
I'm not building a computer right now. And then they come back when it is time to build a computer.
Uh, that is a very strong signal. So you just have to think about what kind of signal your behavior is sending
algorithmically, looking at something going, I don't have time for this right
now and going out of your way, going out of your way to take part of your day and
search for it and go back to it and finish it. That is a very strong signal that you were quite engaged by that content.
So I would say it's a very good thing. Actually don't, don't like do that.
Don't just like start videos and then like, like go back on purpose to go watch
them or whatever, just, just, you know, use the platform. And it should theoretically tune itself for you.
Yeah. Hey Linus, now that you are switching to iPhone, will you also be trying the
Apple ecosystem, watch macOS, maybe home kit?
Uh, I don't really have any need to switch to macOS right now. And besides, I think my perspective with iPhones was always using an iPhone as a
Windows guy, um, and that will continue to be my perspective.
I think DLL currently working for tech startup in a decision making position.
And my team is scaling quickly. What methods have you used to evaluate if you're making the right decisions for
growth? Oh, these are hard questions.
Yeah, it's hard. I mean, realistically, you could take an entire degree of that.
Yeah. So. And you'd still barely know what you're doing.
Yeah. Um, find data you can trust at least a bit and then try to be guided.
Also, as, as much as I'm not a fan of the guy, uh, Bezos has an interesting quote
on data stuff that I've been trying to push around a little bit lately as we're, as we're getting more and more data driven.
Um, that the, it's very easy for data to lie.
It's also very easy for you to misinterpret what the data really means.
So if the sentiment and it's really good to capture data and to read it and try
to figure out what's going on, but if the sentiment and the data notably don't
match, try to figure out what's going on, but generally you should strongly
consider the sentiment says something along that lines. I don't remember what it is.
How have power tool companies been given a pass for so long for locking consumers
into their ecosystems with batteries? Well, companies like Apple or Google are criticized for being anti-consumer.
Because, uh, it's a different less, um, okay.
First of all, if you talk to any trades, they hate that drives them crazy.
Um, you know, you talk to, uh, talk to farmers.
They hate locked down John Deere tractors. You know, they're not, they're not getting a pass.
Um, we tech folk just aren't really talking about it because it doesn't
affect us day to day because no offense to you, uh, but you probably don't
work with a drill every day because you watch this show.
And yes, yes, you, I know you do, but most of them use don't.
So we tend to kind of fixate on the things that affect us day to day, the
things that we are closest to. I mean, that's, that's probably a significant contributor to how flipped
out everybody was over MKBHD's wallpaper app. Uh, if someone that you didn't know, you know, if, uh, if, uh, uh, what's,
what's her name? The, uh, uh, the Goop, Goop actress.
Oh, whatever. Goop actress. Yeah. If she, if she launched some, uh, Gwyneth Pover.
Oh, Goop. Yeah. That Goop. If she launched some, if she launched some Goop product that was like $100,
you know, cucumber slice that you put on your eye or whatever, you won't hear about
it. You won't care. That doesn't mean that she got away with it. You know, yeah, you just didn't care.
Yeah. I'm fighting with a Milwaukee guy. You're forgetting about the brand loyalty as well.
Yeah. They also might not care because they will happily give like Milwaukee $300 for a
radio Milwaukee, get the Makita espresso machine.
That's battery powered. Yes. It's a real thing. There's a lot of brand war in, it's really intense with the tools.
Trucks are really intense. It's a crazy one.
You have a Ford, we can't be friends now. My dad's a Rio B guy.
I like the green dude. There's people who would actually just like use a manual screwdriver versus
use a drill from a brand that they don't like. It's, it's, it is mind-blowing to me.
It should is. I will not touch team red.
So I wasn't, um, I wasn't kidding about that.
This is, uh, this is a radio for 300 Canadian dollars.
Yeah. KMS tools is right. Look, uh, you got, you got to show them a key to a coffee maker.
You have to eat a coffee maker. I need you to.
I know we're pressed for time, but. Okay.
Well, at least it's cheaper than the other thing.
Okay. Well, I'm over it. I don't need to click. Yeah, that's fine. You get the point.
All right. I appreciate you all. I am curious about how Linus's solar panels have been impacting his electric
bill, maybe an idea for a future video. Lowering it a bit.
Hey, LLD love how you guys keep reviews on LTD store as they are and don't
censor poor reviews that said, why are we not able to review products after a few
months? I don't know.
Just review them right away. I guess. Well, no, that's stupid because then if you wanted to leave a long term review,
you wouldn't be able to. I, uh, I don't know.
Uh, we had an issue with our reviews, um, our reviews plugin this week.
Where, uh, someone thought we were, uh, we, we had changed the, the gradient.
Oh, it's still, it's still like this. Okay. So it, on some with very few reviews, it, the way the gradients work on the
lower ones, oh no, it's the, oh yeah. No, this is, this is better because the opacity was different opacity, opaque
opacity. Oh, was it like blue at the bus? So it's harder to see or yeah, the colors were different.
So it made it seem like these ones were not as good as they were.
Not as big when we weren't doing that. No, no, we didn't do that in 10.
No, no, no, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Anyway, Conrad already fixed it. But the point is that, um, we didn't do that intentionally.
The plugin that we use for customer reviews, just like updated and like we didn't
know, and we had to manually intervene in order to make it not do that.
Um, so it's possible that might just be a limitation of the platform we use.
We don't, we didn't create our own review system.
And like I, there are things I don't like about it.
Uh, I don't want us to make our own. Yeah. That's basically where we're at on this is what it is.
Cool. I don't think anyone else internally wants us to make our own either. So, yep.
Sorry, that will not be an initiative. Yo, Linus, have you played paper Mario the thousand year door?
It seems like the sort of RPG you'd have fun playing.
I have not, but I should. Uh, it definitely seems like the sort of RPG I would enjoy.
Oh, I accidentally, that's fine. Just to archive the second one.
Hi, WAN Show. This is for you, Linus, uh, you have mentioned that you are emotionally
needy in relationships. How did you and Yvonne deal with this?
And what conversation complications did you both? Well, we're both emotionally needy.
So we, um, met and then basically, you notice I never talk about friends
that I have other than like people I work with.
It's because Yvonne and I met became completely, I believe the word is enmeshed.
Enmeshed. Yeah. And, um, healthy or not.
Um, hey, we're coming up on 20 years, baby. I'd say that's healthy.
Congratulations. Um, so cool.
All right. I found the one that you deleted. Uh, hello WAN.dll.
I'm currently without power and internet due to four days due to the hurricane
Haleen, uh, but safe. How would you handle getting your tech family through a similar situation
without power?
I'm, I'm super obsessive about battery banks.
I have tons and they tend to be rather charged.
Um, I've got, I've got food and water reserves.
The problem is that he's currently without power. Ah, that makes things really hard.
You haven't already prepped. Yeah, I don't know. What, uh, what we did for a long time is we got an old generator from a boat.
Diesel generator from a boat. And you could run that thing on like old engine oil if you wanted to.
It was really powerful, very, very, uh, easy to run, but giant, but also very cheap.
A lot of people do the natural gas ones outside, but that doesn't really work.
If the natural gas infrastructure explodes, don't know.
Code red 255 and Floatplane asks, is this a rerun?
The WAN Show is always live. Except for that one time.
Was it April fools that we did a pre-recorded one or was it Christmas?
I think we did one on Christmas. It was Christmas. I think we've done it once or twice.
We've pre-recorded the WAN Show. Um, I'll prove it.
See, I wouldn't do that if it was pre-recorded. Why would I think to pre-record that?
That'd be crazy. Forty chess with time travel.
Okay. Well, last one then. Oh, Ouch.
Linus, uh, I have heard you recommend Anno 1800 for years.
I finally got the game for steam. I have been playing on my framework 13 do it yourself Intel 12th gen.
Nice. Do you have any suggestions for a noob?
Um, watch at least a couple of dislike people's startup videos.
And then invest no more than probably like 32, 60 minutes in that.
Cause it's fine. You'll, you'll, you'll want to be explore for yourself, right? Like you'll want to kind of figure out your own way to do things.
And then the other big one is look at just one or two videos of people kind of
showing off their final states because that'll give you some ideas in your mind
for what you need to plan ahead for as you're laying the foundation of your city
or cities. My thing would actually be something that Linus hammered in a hammered home for me.
Um, I was somewhat sheltered when I, when I kind of first started playing Anno
because I would just like be the military ship guy and then Linus would build
all the islands, but something he used to mention all the time was to look at
your production. So instead of just like looking at the map and, you know, you highlight over
something and you're like, Oh, I don't have enough of this. I'll build another thing so that I can have more of it.
Um, that's actually a pretty bad way to go. You want to look into your production and see how much your, your like resource
harvesting places are generating versus how much your, your product producing
places are using those things and making new ones and how many of those things
you actually need and balance the equation. Um, instead of just like building kind of stuff that you think you might need.
It's wildly more efficient and I find more rewarding.
And once you figure that out on one island, then the efficiency growth of like,
Oh, actually potatoes take up a lot of freaking space.
So I found this other island that has potatoes. Maybe I'll just grow those there and I'll set up a trade route back and forth
and do it that way. Doing stuff like that starts to become very natural.
Yeah.
This is cool. I didn't know about this.
Someone pointed this out in chat. Someone pointed this out in chat.
CAS multi-brand battery system.
CAS brands, um, cordless alliance, something I think.
Do you just need like an adapter or something? Uh, I don't know.
Metabo, Metabo.
Cas cordless, sorry. The drill communicates with the battery itself.
The BMS has a specialized computer in it on each battery.
I know because a family friend is a Makita dealer
and he gets us buckets of old batteries that have basically just failed
and then we Frankenstein them back together, make adapter plates and things like that.
It's very interesting. Cool.
I forget what to CAS stand for. I think we've left out to the site.
Oh, cordless alliance system. There it is. Cool. Well, good luck with that.
And good luck with you guys finding something else to do now
because it's the end of the show. Yeah. We'll see you again next week. Same bad times, same bad channel.
Bye.
Go home, medicate your birds.