WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.700 As we know, tech and water don't mix. 00:00:10.700 --> 00:00:16.140 And so whenever I'm out on the lake enjoying the summer sun near the water's edge, I always 00:00:16.140 --> 00:00:27.740 have this anxiety that I'm just going to, I dropped it. 00:00:27.740 --> 00:00:35.180 And that anxiety doesn't just come from nowhere. According to phone insurer Ashurian, water-related claims go up 80% in the summer months, which 00:00:35.180 --> 00:00:38.900 is great if you pay for cell phone insurance, but let's be real, nobody does. 00:00:38.900 --> 00:00:44.540 I sure as hell don't. And so if the worst happens, that's it. 00:00:44.540 --> 00:00:54.580 Or is it? It's why I want to meet a person who is able to get her phone back and working. 00:00:54.580 --> 00:00:58.340 Her name is Fatima Gadsey, and her phone's resurrection made waves through the tech media 00:00:58.340 --> 00:01:02.980 quite simply because of how long it's spent underwater. 00:01:02.980 --> 00:01:06.180 Six months. And now? So here's the phone. 00:01:06.180 --> 00:01:11.700 It's a white iPhone 11. And as you can see, it's perfectly in shape. 00:01:11.700 --> 00:01:15.100 It looks almost as good as my new one. 00:01:15.100 --> 00:01:19.180 But if you look at it like in certain spots, like right here, you can definitely see like 00:01:19.180 --> 00:01:22.420 some rusting that went on from like being underwater. 00:01:22.420 --> 00:01:30.660 But otherwise, it still charges perfectly fine. And when I got it back initially, from clay and I took it home, the microphone wasn't 00:01:30.660 --> 00:01:37.620 working, speaker was super muffed. This story happened much like you'd expect on a nice day at the end of last summer, with 00:01:37.620 --> 00:01:41.300 the enticing prospect of fun on bumper boats. 00:01:41.300 --> 00:01:47.940 Very risky. So we're out on the water, and then I'm, you know, enjoying it, taking pictures of the 00:01:47.940 --> 00:01:53.980 view, and then this oncoming boat actually started spraying water onto me. 00:01:53.980 --> 00:01:57.500 And then I like totally lost balance, freaked out. 00:01:57.500 --> 00:02:03.860 And then I dropped my phone in the water, and it was, and I couldn't even believe it 00:02:03.860 --> 00:02:10.180 when I dropped it. It hit me and I just like wanted to cry then, but more than that, I didn't have any backups 00:02:10.180 --> 00:02:13.300 or anything. Oh, so you didn't have an iTunes or an iCloud backup at all? 00:02:13.300 --> 00:02:19.300 No, I actually didn't. Oh no. And I noticed that for a while I was saying that it's not backing up, and I was thinking 00:02:19.300 --> 00:02:26.380 I have to get to that. But I didn't obviously ever consider that, oh, today is the day where I'm going to lose 00:02:26.380 --> 00:02:30.540 everything and I should have backed it up sooner. 00:02:30.540 --> 00:02:38.220 So how did she get it back and working? 00:02:38.220 --> 00:02:44.100 Well it was a night in a shining wetsuit. His name is Clayton Helkenberg, and he's an affid free diver. 00:02:44.100 --> 00:02:50.860 It's definitely a hobby of mine, just to swim. But the more I was swimming and the more like sunglasses and phones and stuff I was finding, 00:02:50.860 --> 00:02:56.580 also the more trash we were finding. Oh, a vape. 00:02:56.580 --> 00:03:02.500 Still got some juice in it. But with the trash one can also find treasure, and Clayton finds all sorts of things, drones, 00:03:02.500 --> 00:03:07.340 go-pros, sunglasses, and phones. Like these two Clayton found for us. 00:03:07.340 --> 00:03:10.860 One is an iPhone X, and the other an iPhone 7. 00:03:10.860 --> 00:03:16.260 This in fact was the first iPhone to get an official IP67 rating thanks to the solid 00:03:16.260 --> 00:03:21.740 state home button and the courageous removal of the headphone jack. 00:03:21.740 --> 00:03:28.980 I think it was a major help in this story. The IP code is defined by the International Electro-Technical Commission Standard number 00:03:28.980 --> 00:03:38.980 60529. Oh, look, they turned on. 00:03:39.300 --> 00:03:44.100 Okay, sorry if this is getting a little boring, but you've probably seen the IP code on cell 00:03:44.100 --> 00:03:50.780 phone spec sheets. It has a meaning. The first number specifies the level of protection from solids, and the second specifies protection 00:03:50.780 --> 00:03:56.700 from water. So, if a device has a rating of IP11, it means that it's protected against an object larger 00:03:56.700 --> 00:04:00.060 than 50 millimeters, or a hand. 00:04:00.060 --> 00:04:03.660 And it's protected against falling drops of water. 00:04:04.660 --> 00:04:07.660 Yep, this is at least IP11. 00:04:11.660 --> 00:04:15.660 Well, after 67, I think I'm f***ed. 00:04:15.660 --> 00:04:21.620 Um, sorry. At IP67, it means that these are completely dust-tight and protected from water ingress 00:04:21.620 --> 00:04:26.620 at up to 1 meter depth for 30 minutes. Apple hasn't even stopped there, though. 00:04:26.620 --> 00:04:33.020 Any iPhone above the 10s is rated at IP68, which allows for depths of greater than 1 meter. 00:04:33.020 --> 00:04:39.540 So an iPhone 12 is rated at up to 6 meters, 11 Pros are rated at 4 meters, and Fatima 00:04:39.540 --> 00:04:45.220 is 11 at 2 meters, which incidentally was about the depth her phone was at for all those 00:04:45.220 --> 00:04:51.020 months. I guess then what's like the ratio of stuff in pretty decent condition versus... 00:04:51.020 --> 00:04:57.620 Oh, it's pretty low. It's pretty low. So for, let's say, the 200 pairs of sunglasses I found, I probably found 20 that were usable 00:04:57.620 --> 00:05:03.620 condition, I would say. Yeah. How about for the ratio of, like, phones or tech you find under your watch? 00:05:03.620 --> 00:05:06.620 Phone. Go-Pros to start with. Go-Pros always work. 00:05:06.620 --> 00:05:10.940 I have not found an unworking GoPro yet. iPhone 11s, I've found three of them, all three have worked. 00:05:10.940 --> 00:05:17.740 I have one working iPhone 10, but I think it was the S8 or S9 that briefly worked, and 00:05:17.740 --> 00:05:23.780 then it decided to shut off again. Last year, I sent two big boxes to a guy in, I think it was in Ontario or something like 00:05:23.780 --> 00:05:27.180 that, and his channel's the Phone Guru, and then he was able to fix a whole bunch of them, 00:05:27.180 --> 00:05:33.740 so I planned to send them some more in the future when I get some better ones, but got away for the summer to people drop some better looking phones. 00:05:33.740 --> 00:05:45.060 Okay, so this iPhone 7 appears to be fine, but it's locked, so I can't get in, obviously. 00:05:45.060 --> 00:05:50.660 And then this iPhone 10, well, when I first plugged it in, it was boot looping like crazy, 00:05:50.660 --> 00:05:55.540 and I put it into restore mode and tried updating it because I don't want to delete anything 00:05:55.540 --> 00:06:02.060 that's on here, but I can't really get that to work, and if I were to restore it completely, 00:06:02.060 --> 00:06:05.780 then it means I wouldn't be able to get the person's data back to them. 00:06:05.780 --> 00:06:09.460 So let's see if we can reach out to them. 00:06:09.460 --> 00:06:15.460 Where do I start? Yeah, so what I do with phones, hers, it just turned right on, which was kind of cool, but 00:06:15.460 --> 00:06:19.540 iPhone has quite a good lock system, so I'm not cracking that code anytime soon. 00:06:19.540 --> 00:06:22.540 So what I do with all phones is I just take the SIM card out, and I plug it into an old 00:06:22.540 --> 00:06:25.660 phone, and I have a SIM card reader in that, and it just shows me the phone number that 00:06:25.660 --> 00:06:29.260 the phone's registered to, and I just call the phone or text the phone, and if somebody 00:06:29.260 --> 00:06:33.140 answers, awesome, and she answers right away, and yeah, it's cool, that's how that works. 00:06:33.140 --> 00:06:40.460 Okay, so I got this Android phone to do this, so let's switch the SIM cards here. 00:06:40.460 --> 00:06:46.820 Okay, and let's take this one out. 00:06:46.820 --> 00:06:55.140 Huh, it's an AT&T SIM card, I wonder what that means, put this in here, okay, it looks 00:06:55.140 --> 00:07:01.380 like we got service, there's no number on here, it's blank, does that mean it's an old 00:07:01.380 --> 00:07:10.620 SIM card? Okay, so it's an American phone, maybe it's not connected to an American network, and 00:07:10.620 --> 00:07:23.220 we live close to the border, let's see if that works. 00:07:23.220 --> 00:07:27.060 Blank, darn it, I was hoping to get that phone back. 00:07:27.060 --> 00:07:30.180 Okay, that didn't work. 00:07:30.180 --> 00:07:37.180 So let's try the next SIM card. 00:07:37.180 --> 00:07:44.300 Okay, it's got service. 00:07:44.300 --> 00:07:57.460 If I try phoning this number, it's ringing, oh my goodness, okay, oh my gosh, I got some 00:07:57.460 --> 00:08:04.060 text messages. The number of the guy who sent message to this phone. 00:08:04.060 --> 00:08:18.100 This is a lot harder than I was expecting, I mean how did Clayton do it with Fatima's 00:08:18.100 --> 00:08:21.820 phone? 00:08:21.820 --> 00:08:25.740 You got your new phone in December, and then a couple months later, what happened? 00:08:26.100 --> 00:08:31.540 It was a normal day, I was just chilling, and then I got a text saying, hi, my name 00:08:31.540 --> 00:08:35.020 is Clay, did you lose a cell phone in Harrison Lake? 00:08:35.020 --> 00:08:39.020 So it was just really, really odd that someone was asking me about this thing that happened 00:08:39.020 --> 00:08:44.940 six months ago, and knew exactly where I lost it, I almost genuinely felt like someone's 00:08:44.940 --> 00:08:51.300 trying to lure me into somewhere. 00:08:51.380 --> 00:08:55.780 So all it was was Clayton trying to return a phone back to their rightful owner, hopefully 00:08:55.780 --> 00:08:59.020 with all its photos and memories intact. 00:08:59.020 --> 00:09:04.340 I don't know how to feel about receiving something that I was definitely heartbroken to lose, 00:09:04.340 --> 00:09:12.380 and it was such a stressful time. I just felt like a lot of memories or pieces of a big time in my life were just kind of 00:09:12.380 --> 00:09:15.820 given back to me, so I was mostly grateful for that. 00:09:15.820 --> 00:09:19.420 And then I was also thinking like, now what do I do with the second phone? 00:09:19.420 --> 00:09:26.060 So what does it feel like when you return a phone to someone? It's awesome, some of the reactions are just people are in total disbelief sometimes, and 00:09:26.060 --> 00:09:31.300 yeah, it's pretty cool. Too bad I won't be getting the same reactions myself. 00:09:31.300 --> 00:09:39.500 I don't have a lot of Apple stuff at all, like I used to have an iPod and I was about it, but yeah, those iPhone 11's, like Apple makes a crazy waterproof phone, it's very 00:09:39.500 --> 00:09:43.940 impressive honestly. Like six months around 10 feet of water, it's just crazy. 00:09:43.940 --> 00:09:47.540 Two other ones that called us, they were both charged when I found them, the guys had lost 00:09:47.620 --> 00:09:51.660 them the day before, but yeah, I jumped in and I just clicked the button and it turned 00:09:51.660 --> 00:09:58.260 on underwater and there's a background of a dog on it, and it was just super funny. 00:09:58.260 --> 00:10:01.940 So I guess after this whole ordeal, what's the big lesson you've learned? 00:10:01.940 --> 00:10:06.980 Back up your phone, always get hooked on it, I don't know, I assumed, because the last 00:10:06.980 --> 00:10:11.660 backup I did was like on iTunes, and that was really lengthy, but I didn't know that 00:10:11.660 --> 00:10:16.220 now you could just still just do it on the phone, just go on the iCloud and then subscribe 00:10:16.300 --> 00:10:22.300 to it and then it backs up for you, so definitely very easy, very affordable process. 00:10:22.300 --> 00:10:26.580 And if you're ever out where you might drop your phone, put it in a zip pocket, just don't 00:10:26.580 --> 00:10:31.020 take it on the water. 00:10:31.020 --> 00:10:36.140 It's reassuring to know that if your iPhone dunks into a shallow beach or pool, it has 00:10:36.140 --> 00:10:40.300 a chance of surviving, but that doesn't mean you should be careless, because despite there 00:10:40.300 --> 00:10:44.900 being people like Clayton around, six months is still an awful long time to be without 00:10:44.900 --> 00:10:51.140 a phone. Thank you for joining us at this Mac Address from the shores of Cultus Lake, British Columbia. 00:10:51.140 --> 00:10:56.500 Now, I'm curious if you yourself have had any tales of an iPhone surviving, or maybe 00:10:56.500 --> 00:11:00.140 not surviving, a dunk underwater. Feel free to share them in the comments below.