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What's up y'all? How y'all doing? I hope you're having a great day, floaters.

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I still hate that name.

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Well yeah, that's the idea. It's just like how I have my pillow right side up here.

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I love trolling the people. They're good people. They're good people. They can take it. They can handle it.

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They don't sink. They're floaters.

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They were sinkers. They couldn't take it. They'd be too dense. They're not dense people.

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A lot of good people on both sides of the density.

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Very airy, one would say.

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Airy? How's our latency, by the way?

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Okay, I can see. I measure it by when you have heard me. It's something.

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It is for sure something. Yeah, it's about 300 milliseconds or something crazy.

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Okay, that's the way it be though. Are you in a closet? Is that a coat hanger behind you?

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This place is effectively a closet.

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Nice.

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It's very small. Good job choosing a closet.

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There's nowhere else to choose.

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I can move the desk, but it's like...

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I think this is actually the best angle I have.

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Why does your company abuse you like this, making you stay like that?

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No, this is fine. The hotel room is fine.

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It's abuse.

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We're abusing Luke.

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We're not even sorry.

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It even looks like a small closet.

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It's not like I have a broom.

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Why did you say that we were abusing you?

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This is abuse.

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What if I move my laptop and won't get it back? It's fine. There's nothing to put on screen that's any better than that, basically.

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Yeah, that's rough. It could just be like plain white wall.

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I mean, plain white wall might be better than plain yellow wall.

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I think they're all going to be kind of yellow.

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Hey, Dan, should we add like a little bit of lighting to the away kit?

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Yeah, maybe. Probably wouldn't hurt. Just a little ring light.

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Yeah, I think that would probably be a great idea. Sure.

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Here. I'll try to show you what we're working with.

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Because it's very difficult to color balance. Yeah, and he looks like Mocher yellow.

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Absolute ass. Smoker yellow.

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It's such an easy color to picture in my mind's eye.

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Smoker yellow. Sticky.

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Wash your hands, Luke. Okay, and then this is the room.

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Nice. Quality.

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That's it. I don't think there's a better spot.

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Yeah. I don't know.

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Yeah, does he not have a webcam that I have on?

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I can throw that on. What? You didn't use your webcam?

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I don't think it'll be anything. At this point, I think a C920 is like arguably not better.

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I think I'm not going to be able to.

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The last two places I was at, I didn't tell Dan which was which,

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and he preferred the non-web cam. I'm just saying.

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Really depends. I'm just saying.

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I'll look it up though. We can try it. No, I'm over it.

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Let's get the show started. It's pretty late. No, I'm going to try it.

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What? No, it's late. Let's go, Luke.

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Yeah, Dan wants to go. Dan wants to go home, Luke.

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Have you ever considered that maybe what Dan wants is important?

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No one else has. It's fine.

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My god. Oh my god, the hair.

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Look at that. Yeah, it's not bad actually.

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I like it. When you almost dropped the... You know what?

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We should both do it and then just like not acknowledge it the whole show.

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Hold on. It looks like the same to me. Can I get it going?

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Can I get... I need to... That's not as good as yours, man.

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How do you get that volume? Well, that's the problem is my hair is unnecessarily thick.

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I mean, look, don't complain about that in front of most men our age.

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That's like when a woman complains about being too thin.

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It's just like, yeah, you know, it is actually a problem, but also...

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Yeah, no, this is not going to work for me.

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All right. What? Where did he go?

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Okay, he's back.

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The quality is back to being terrible.

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Except this is the webcam. Maybe you need to get a better webcam.

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I checked. It's not actually a C920. It's a Brio.

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Maybe you need to get better with your webcam.

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It's a lighting issue. You just don't have enough light. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Let's switch back to being a bit nicer. Let me color balance again.

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Do we both tell him not to bother switching so we could start the show?

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He just, yeah, such a listening problem, that guy.

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I might have got it from someone.

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That's not the way you want to be like branded, Luke.

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You know, has a listening problem. That's having a listening problem.

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You know?

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Yeah. Trevor W. says, I'm balding at 28.

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Check your privilege, Dan.

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Wait, wait until you hear about my genetic disposition to probably not ever go gray until

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I'm like 60. Wow.

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Lucky. If it happens before that, I'm going to bloody lose it.

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That is what we call a champagne problem, sir.

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That's terrified. Oh no, I could go gray by 60.

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Why are you terrified of going gray?

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Yeah. The silver fox look is like very in, I think.

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I was about to mention the silver fox. I think I would just go full silver.

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I think the silver, the silver fox look is in, right?

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I don't think it's ever been out.

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Like who's the original silver fox? I know George Clooney was like our generation's silver fox, but like what was silver fox a

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JFK says Cory is the name.

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Yeah. Yeah, I could see that.

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No, not silver fox. Silver fox.

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Like foxy. Yeah. The one that's right, it's somebody.

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No, we're not talking about Firefox.

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Bloody Floatplane chat.

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I don't think I'm going to get any better than that.

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Leslie Nielsen. Yeah. There you go.

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Yeah. And Steve Martin, who I, as a child, could never tell the difference between.

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I mean, they were both funny men who did silly slapstick with gray hair and they like even

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kind of looked alike. So I don't know that Sean Connery was like that good looking when he aged.

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like the rock where he's like the old guy, the grizzled veteran.

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And then like going back and watching his early films like Jack Nicholson too.

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I was like, Oh, Jack Nicholson was like good looking.

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Huh. Cause he sure aged funny looking.

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Same with Sean Connery.

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No, we're not doing another poll to confirm if you all use Firefox.

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We already know the answer. Yeah.

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California. We've looked into doing a wallet, but we've just, it's never had a good raison d'etre.

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We just haven't found a way to differentiate from the buzzillion other wallets that are

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out there. Dean Martin, Bert Reynolds.

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Hmm. Pierce Brosnan. Yep.

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Yep. Yep. Oh, did you see the, uh, the rock, uh, weight loss image?

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Yeah. What the heck dude? Dude.

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Well, he probably got some medical advice like his heart was probably going to explode.

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Yeah. Well, he's never officially admitted that he's on steroids.

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Oh, really? Yeah. So like, he's probably off steroids and just like, he never said that he was on them.

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So he can't like say that he's off them now.

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Hmm. He never did anything where it would matter, right?

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Like you never competed.

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Just WWE, which is like, you know, I mean, like it, it matters in terms of like being a

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role model and stuff, but not in terms of.

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I think that's why he never admitted it, but then it has like an inverse issue, which

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is then you set extremely unrealistic expectations.

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Yeah. For people who aren't juicing.

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Yeah. So you're not promoting doing it, but you're also like, yeah.

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John Brer says WWE is a real sport. You know what?

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I'm actually, I'm actually going to back him on this. It's not a game because there is no competition.

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Okay. But I, if you're going to tell me that like floor routine gymnastics is a sport, which

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it is, then WWE is a sport. Then WWE is definitely a sport.

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They go out there and they like do acrobatic stunts. That's a sport.

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Totally. The actual like performance part is, I mean, honestly, I'd rather go to the elementary

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school play, but the actual like the performance like athleticism part of it is pretty, pretty

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sports like I would say. Yeah.

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Some of the stuff they do would like definitely actually hurt.

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Oh, I'm not saying it's like safe or like not hard.

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Yeah. No question. It's kind of nuts.

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It's just definitely scripted. I think so.

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Yeah. Should we do this thing?

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Luke, you ready to go?

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I'm ready whenever, my guy.

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Let's do this thing.

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YouTube check. Everything check.

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Scripted like the LG video. The LG video wasn't even scripted.

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The intro was scripted. That was it.

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Yeah. It's been, there's been a lot of conversation around our like views are down thing with

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people having all kinds of interesting opinions about why some of which have some truth to

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them, some of which are just entirely not like someone was set on Reddit.

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They were like, oh yeah, like like the back, the back to school shopping with the Chromebooks,

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like it was so scripted. I was like, okay, but it wasn't.

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And it's like, oh, well, I guess it like felt scripted.

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So, you know, like, well, then what are you talking about?

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That was a great video that's doing well. Like that.

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Yeah. That one's also performing really, really well.

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So it's, it's one of those things where like I saw someone.

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There was actually a lot of feedback that like react content is the reason it's like,

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we've actually done very little of that recently. Those weren't the videos that performed really poorly.

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And the most recent ones started out performing really well, but then fell off super hard.

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But also in general, react videos have been average or above average performers for us over the years.

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And it's like, people bring their own personal biases in, right?

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So they like or don't like a certain thing.

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So they're like looking for confirmation of, of their own biases.

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But at the end of the day, the numbers, like I had, I'd have this conversation with Luke as well,

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because he was kind of pointing at a bunch of videos going, well, like, I think these are the problem.

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I'm like, oh my God, but these ones are like above average retention.

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So how do I, how do I reconcile?

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Cause I have my own biases too. How do I reconcile everyone's individual feelings, which are totally valid with the overall numbers, which are also valid, right?

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Everything's valid. It's just a matter of weighing the different valid hypotheses.

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Anyway, we'll talk about it a little bit more on the show. Let's get this thing going.

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Yeah, I guess we can talk about it on the show.

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There's, there's been a bunch of other creators stepping up talking about it too, which has been really interesting.

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Yeah, it really does seem like, okay, well, let's just, well, we'll talk about it during the show.

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We'll save it. Should we do this thing, Dan? Yep.

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I'm punching it. Well, I'm going to try, hold on, my studio crashed here.

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Maybe that's why I don't get any views, cause the studio crashed.

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Yeah. Yeah. Parallelogram says, I think the LG video is the most disliked video on Floatplane.

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Yeah, I, we reacted to so many more of them.

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I, I think this is one of those ones where when I was reviewing the video, I kind of thought I was like, oh yeah, I thought we had like way more.

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And I thought there was like a lower ratio of like the ones that got the LG monitor sent to them and ones that didn't.

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And I think just to keep, we've been trying to lower video length.

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And I think that initiative just came along at exactly the wrong time.

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Yeah, not for those. Yeah.

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So that one should have been longer and it should have been more spaced out with like the LG sponsored bits.

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So yeah, that is what it is.

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Oh, this is, yeah, this is still crashed.

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I really do need my dashboard to be up.

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Kind of important. I mean, kind of.

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Kind of. Yeah.

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I'm kind of tempted to tweak the title actually.

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I met the real Linus.

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I met the OG Linus.

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What do you think? I'm spitballing right now.

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I hear you typing, but I'm not actually. OG Linus, I think is pretty good.

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I met the OG Linus. I met, I met the Linux guy.

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I met Linux is not bad. That's from when bingo.

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That's pretty good. That is pretty good.

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I met.

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I met the Linux Linus.

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That might just be hard to read.

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That's a little rough, I think. Yeah.

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Chat says real greater than OG.

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Is OG like the future now? Like, are we just old?

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No, I think OG is still a thing.

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I mean, it's the OG way of saying someone's the OG.

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Dang, dude. Dang.

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The notorious Linus.

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I like that. That's a dated reference.

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Yeah, I like that a lot. I think that's really good.

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One Linus met Linus.

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Now let's just leave it as is. I don't know.

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I met.

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I met. Did you go with OG?

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You know, I was trying to check into a hotel here and they were asking for the company name

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and I kept saying it over and over again and they were really struggling with it back and forth

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and then Sammy handed them a business card and they were like, ah, Linus.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently it was that misleading to say Linus.

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There's a few people saying I met the Linus.

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Like, all caps, that's not bad. How I met your Linus.

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I think is pretty good. What is it right now?

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I met Linus, all capital. I met the Linus.

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I think I like, I met the Linus. Yeah, let's do it.

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Yeah, let's do that. So I'll wait for you to change the titles

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and then I'll punch it.

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We should just have chat named the Wen show from now on.

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I like it. That'd actually be hilarious as a Floatplane perk.

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You get a vote to change the. I don't hate it, to be honest.

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I mean, you'll hate it when viewership is terrible because they're not professional titlers, but sure.

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Well, no, but like, we get the veto, you know,

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but they can input. They picked it this time, it was good.

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This was the best one. Okay, ready.

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A tale of two Linuses. It's currently one and oh, the chat is beating us.

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I mean, we don't know that until it goes live and anyone clicks on it, but sure.

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Okay, I'm resuming the selected now.

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What is up L's and G's and oh, welcome to the Wen show.

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We have a great show lined up for you guys this week. I had just about the most exciting,

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freaking phone call of my life. I have told Luke basically nothing about it,

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but I had about a 25 minute conversation

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with the Linus Torvalds.

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And, and there's so much more

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because I have some exciting news to share

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about the outcome of that conversation.

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I don't want to get ahead of myself, but it looks like something might be happening.

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In other news this week.

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Okay, Valve may have some new VR hardware coming

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extremely soon and I am cautiously,

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hopefully optimistic.

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You took one of my two and it was honestly

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really hard to find those. Silk song is here and it's been actually crazy.

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I've heard about it from practically freaking everyone,

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so that's exciting. And I don't know.

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Come on, look, you gotta sell them on the exciting show.

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Intel launched the first battle mage based

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workstation card and you should be hyped

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because it's cheap. Okay, enough mulling the intro, forget it.

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Which is sick, that's good.

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The show is brought to you today by Thoram.

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that's alongside our RAP partner D brand, our laptop partner Dell, and our chair partner,

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go ahead and share with you what I'm going to share with you today.

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I'm going to share with you what I'm going to share with you today.

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I'm going to share with you what I am going to,

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I'm going to share something with you guys.

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It was way back in, oh man,

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good lord, when would this have been?

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I think it was during CES, yes.

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but I was suddenly struck with the idea of,

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hey, after 17 years doing this,

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why don't I just, why don't I just shoot my shot?

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See if the OG Linus creator of Linux

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is down to do something, because I don't know, he appears on camera

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once in a while and stuff, he obviously computes, right?

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Yeah, why not, right?

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We've certainly been aligned at points in the past

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with respect to how we feel about certain hardware vendors

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and how they treat our respective industries.

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There's got to be some synergies there.

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So I'm only going to read my emails verbatim,

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because I don't want to leak the DMs or whatever.

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I consider an email that someone sends to me

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private information, generally speaking.

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So here's what I said, here's what I said. By the way, it's really, it's pretty funny

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watching the AI summary of our thread,

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because it's Linus proposed a collaboration

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then Linus said this and Linus said that anyway.

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This might be a bit of a long shot,

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but we've received hundreds, probably thousands,

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of requests over the years to do something with Linus,

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and I sent this to basically every email address that I could find.

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Here are some rough jumping off points, building the perfect Linux machine for Linus Torvalds,

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an April Fool's video where we have him straight-faced

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host one of our videos and just never acknowledge that it's the wrong Linus,

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having him react to various Linux missteps

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that I've committed over the years

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and maybe provide some commentary or advice.

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I said truthfully, I don't have a concept

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solidified in my mind, but I wanted to put out feelers to see if there's any appetite

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for any kind of collaboration,

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regards the other tech Linus.

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I heard back

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literally,

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hold on, I'm just trying to find the time stamps here.

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It was within like minutes though.

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Like I was floored.

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I heard back, and I'm not going to go word for word,

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but basically it was something to do with

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Highlander from 1986.

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There can be only one, right?

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I thought you meant our Linus World Record for a second.

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Nope, not even a little. And then there was some mention of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome

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and the admittedly correct assessment

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that both had epic music.

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And I was left kind of going, okay.

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So is this a yes, is it a no?

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How about this? Tell you what? I'm going to assign myself some homework.

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I'm going to watch those films and so to make sure that I get all the references.

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So since CES, I have watched

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all of the original Mel Gibson Mad Max movies.

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I have watched Highlander and a little while ago

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I reached out again and I went, okay, I totally, totally get all the references now.

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And hey, are you interested in doing something?

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I actually got on a call with the man himself

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and I don't want to promise anything because for a thousand reasons, right,

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it might not work out and that might not be anyone's fault

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and there would be no hard feelings whatsoever.

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Something isn't really done until it's done

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and there's nothing wrong with that.

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But right now, right now it looks like

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we are going to build an ultimate Linux machine

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for the Linux Torvalds.

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And, and, and, and he will help build it.

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We will have him here in the studio.

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I almost wonder like if you should put like rainbow cards in it,

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like if you should have an NVIDIA Nintel and an AMD GPU

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so you can like for, for work reasons.

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My goal, my goal would be to,

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would be to make it as, as stable

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because I know that that's something that he values a lot.

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because that's something he's really quite passionate about

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from what I've seen in the past. So I want that, no, I want this to be quite a series.

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I want to have some fun, obviously. That's what we do, right?

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We're going to have some fun, but I want the machine to be serious

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and what I want from you guys.

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And Dan, I'm actually not sure necessarily what the best way for us to tackle this is.

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Maybe what we could do is we could do a Floatplane post

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sometime over the next week or two. I want to get some feedback from the community because

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this is a super rare opportunity.

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And obviously the whole point of the video doesn't have to be

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here's how to put a memory stick in a Linux computer, right?

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Like I don't think that's what people are going to be watching this for.

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No, I want to like, I want to have, I want to have a conversation,

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you know, Linus or Linus, you know, chatting about our,

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about our very, very different experiences

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and our very different sort of approach to the tech world.

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There are some parallels. We've both ruffled some feathers over the years.

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Yeah, yeah. So I want to know like what would you guys,

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because to me, building a computer opposite someone is,

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it's almost, it's almost not the point, right? It's more like a, it's more like a hot ones.

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It's an excuse to be in the same room at the same time, right?

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Sparky ones. Dude though, I am like amazed at how easy it was

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to get him on the show. He was just like, oh yeah, that sounds fun.

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Let's do it. Like I thought I'd have to grovel.

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I offered to bring the whole production to him

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and he was like, no, no, I think I could do that.

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I could just come up there and I was like, okay, that's incredibly generous of your time.

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I know this is a little premature.

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Yeah. But I hope it goes so well that like he wants to do something again.

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I think this is really cool. I think it's so cool.

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I think it would be awesome. And it's one of those things where just like,

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I just never asked because I assumed,

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I just assumed, I don't know, the answer would be no.

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And I think, I don't know, and maybe it's like an insecurity on my part.

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Maybe it's just, maybe I've allowed my perception of myself

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to be colored the same way that I think some people do

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as sort of like the tech clown.

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Like I, you know, he drops stuff, he does this, he does that.

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I don't know. I don't know why I thought he'd say no or ignore it.

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I didn't think he'd necessarily even get my email.

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But like... That part's kind of surprising to me.

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I think for me, it's not my perception of you

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it's just that like, he's been...

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I don't know. I don't know how to say this and not sound like I'm groveling,

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but he's kind of been like a somewhat of a godlike figure forever

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in like our realm. So it's just kind of crazy.

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So you're gonna have to sort of dial that back when he's here?

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No, I know. Because what I will say is he doesn't seem to get it.

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Like what a rock star. For sure.

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And that's not something you like ever really say to somebody's face. What an absolute freaking rock star he is in our community.

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Oh yeah. Because like, I was like, dude, you're gonna have to...

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I tried to prepare him a little bit. I was like, dude, you're gonna have to understand that like,

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there's gonna be people in our office that are like...

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Oh, I'll chill. I'll chill, I'll be fine. It's so great to meet you, sir.

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And he's like, oh, I mean, I'm like, understand you are beloved in our space.

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And he's like, oh, I don't know. I mean, not everybody likes me.

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I've ruffled a lot of feathers. I've been very outspoken.

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I'm like, sir, you got to understand the way that you are outspoken

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and the cause that you represent,

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it's very aligned with our community.

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Yeah, you've got some fans here. Yeah, definitely.

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So I think he might end up a little taken aback

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by just how much our community in particular

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is gonna be like...

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No way. Well, I mean, I think there's also been a very large push.

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I know I've been talking about it individually a little bit, but I think honestly, that's largely because of the communication

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in our community for a while, but there's been a really large push of people trying to kind of flee

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over to Windows lately.

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I think largely enabled by SteamOS.

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Sorry, flee over to Windows? You mean flee from Windows?

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No, flee away from Windows is what I need to say.

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Yeah, okay. I was like, what are you talking about, bud?

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No, yeah, fleeing from Windows, fleeing away from Windows.

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And that's like... Man, the fact that it's even a possibility is kind of wild

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to go to an open source option.

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Yeah. Is crazy, considering there's effectively two, right?

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And they're both just like enormous commercial giants.

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So the fact that there's a genuinely really good alternative

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that is free and open is nuts.

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Yeah, I mean, tons of credit to Valve for the support that they've given.

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100%. And tons of credit, of course, to the foot soldiers,

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the ones that are out there doing the work to make this happen

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because it has been arduous.

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Yeah. And I mean, I...

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You wouldn't have to go back that far for me to say,

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yeah, this is never going to happen. Like, even Valve looked like they gave up

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after the original Steam machines flopperoo.

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And clearly they didn't, which is great, but yeah, it seems like they did for a bit.

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Really did.

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Legacy Uprising says there are only three OGs

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and two, I couldn't care less to see on the show.

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There's Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and the only open source one, Linus.

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It's like, yep. Yeah, I think that's a sentiment that's going to resonate

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with a big part of our community,

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which isn't to say at all that the contributions

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to modern computing, for better or for worse,

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from the other two were not monumental.

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Absolutely they were. No one is questioning that. No one's denying that.

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But in terms of like, you know,

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if I was to pick a big three sort of figureheads, because again, a big part of their roles

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was to be figureheads or is to be figureheads.

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It's not like any of them was, you know,

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developing everything over the entire span of there,

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in some cases, decades-long careers, right? Like there are many, many contributors

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to every major platform. But in terms of like, if I was going to pick

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a big three figureheads, yeah, those would be them for me too.

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Yes, we're not forgetting the laws. Don't worry, Chet.

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Don't worry. We're not forgetting Steve Wozniak.

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Now, Woz is somebody that I think would be

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fantastic to have on the show.

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I mean, look, let's start somewhere.

462
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Let's start somewhere. And then if this goes really well, dude,

463
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000
I mean, how fun would that be? That'd be sweet.

464
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000
That'd be super cool. But let's start somewhere, because it never hurts.

465
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,000
It never hurts when we do outreach, you know,

466
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,000
to other people to be like, okay, and here's the time that we had, you know,

467
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Linz Torvold's on, and it went great.

468
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Or I don't know, maybe it didn't go so good. No, I'm sure it'll go great.

469
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,000
I think it's going to go awesome. Yeah. I'm just, I just wanted to, I'm too excited

470
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000
to not share that with you guys this week. This is the kind of thing where if I wasn't

471
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000
so amped about it to the point where

472
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,000
I'd probably end up leaking it anyway, then I would have saved and I would have just

473
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:57,000
had it be a surprise when the video dropped, but I just, I just really wanted to talk about it

474
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,000
and I'm psyched. I'm absolutely psyched.

475
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000
And yeah, Dan, I don't know, maybe could we coordinate

476
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,000
with Sammy to get some jumping off points

477
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
for some conversations that people would like to hear?

478
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,000
100%. Okay, that would be amazing. So that'll be over on Floatplane,

479
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000
LMG.GG slash Floatplane if you're not part

480
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000
of our legion of Floatplaners just quite yet.

481
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaking of legions of Floatplaners, I guess now's as good a time as any to head

482
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:34,000
into our next topic. Last week, it was a relatively short conversation,

483
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000
I thought, but we discussed a little bit

484
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,000
of what's been happening on the channel with respect to viewership.

485
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000
There were some theories that we kind of threw around on the show last week.

486
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Since that time, we have done some additional digging

487
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000
and I wouldn't say that we have an answer,

488
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000
but we definitely have a lot more questions.

489
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,000
And I guess I'm gonna have to kind of bring producer Dan

490
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000
into the conversation for this because he's one

491
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,000
of the ones that's been doing a fair bit of the investigation on our side.

492
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000
So we've kind of, we've chatted a little bit

493
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,000
with YouTube about it, but in typical YouTube fashion,

494
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000
the answer is pretty much get good,

495
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,000
which to be clear is fair and is a valid stance.

496
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Like if there is an algorithmic shift,

497
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,000
that means that, yeah, a 0.2 or 0.4 difference

498
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,000
in click-through ratio means that, hey, your packaging just isn't good enough

499
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,000
for the modern meta anymore, or if there's a shift

500
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
where established channels can't just take for granted

501
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000
that they're gonna get a certain number of impressions

502
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,000
and they're gonna have to get scrappier and fight for every viewer, you know,

503
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:58,000
just like they did in the early days. That's a valid answer and that's one that I can totally accept.

504
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,000
But Dan did dig up some things and we did see some feedback

505
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,000
from other creators, both publicly and in our inboxes

506
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,000
that would lead us to believe that it isn't quite,

507
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000
quite maybe not quite that simple.

508
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,000
So Dan, do you wanna talk a little bit about, sort of maybe let's go chronologically.

509
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,000
So start with what you sort of discovered

510
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
right after WAN Show that we were kind of chatting about

511
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000
on Teams afterward. Yeah, absolutely.

512
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Yeah, we had a pretty brutal chat after WAN Show.

513
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,000
I think all of us here are pretty concerned about this downturn in viewership.

514
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Like we're seeing maybe a 50% viewership drop,

515
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:43,000
so we went from one and a half, two million views per video to down to like a million.

516
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,000
So like huge, huge drop. I mean, less than that for that one in particular.

517
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Exactly, sometimes down to 300,000.

518
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,000
I think that one still has like 400K or something like that,

519
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,000
even though it's been up for over a week. Yeah, something like that. Oh, 500K.

520
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,000
500, 7000, yeah, something like that. So I thought this was pretty weird

521
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,000
because in general, if our videos were just getting worse,

522
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,000
like we were just losing it,

523
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000
you should be seeing like a downward trend

524
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000
and maybe we are getting bad,

525
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,000
maybe that's a component of it too, but I built a tool to pull all of our videos

526
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000
that we've ever made. So that's roughly 6,900 or something like that.

527
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,000
And one thing that I've also pulled

528
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000
was all of the likes for those videos too.

529
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Are you able to share any of this on screen or are you just going to kind of...

530
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,000
I can throw pictures up. I'm not sure how much of this you want to share publicly.

531
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Yeah, that's for better or for worse, Dan.

532
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Our transparency is... We're like panes of glass.

533
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Absolutely. We're transparent and sometimes we break.

534
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Yeah, yeah. I think we should show that where we got the tip from too.

535
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Yes, that's right. Well, let's go chronological.

536
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Sure, sure, sure, sure. I will grab some pictures in a minute if I can.

537
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Anyway, I ran this chart and I saw that there was this shift

538
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,000
and it was really, really strange

539
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:21,000
because it was so sudden and we hadn't seen many other kind of...

540
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,000
I guess creators talking about it at that point.

541
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,000
And it was also very difficult to find other creators that were presenting similar to we were.

542
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,000
I pulled Mr. Beast, I pulled Veritasium,

543
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000
I pulled a bunch of other channels and I think their upload frequency

544
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000
maybe had something to do with their data

545
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000
that didn't look like this. But what we found was the views were down

546
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,000
but the light ratio had gone through the roof.

547
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,000
So our average light ratio, I think, was something like 3%

548
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,000
and it had skyrocketed. Do we know this already before the heads up?

549
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,000
You want to start it? Did we know this light ratio thing already before we got the heads up?

550
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
No, this was the heads up, yeah. We had a good chronology.

551
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Yeah, who was that then? That was Brody.

552
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Okay, so there was a merge message that came in from a viewer

553
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,000
giving us a heads up of Brody Robertson.

554
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Hopefully I didn't say that wrong. Let me check his channel.

555
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,000
We've engaged with him before.

556
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000
And Fleming says Brody, yeah, I watched his video.

557
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Yeah, Brody Robertson. So there's a merge message that came in flagging that video for us.

558
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,000
So a big appreciation to the merge message.

559
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,000
If I remember correctly, it was anonymous. That's right.

560
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,000
I don't know. But that sent us to Brody's video

561
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,000
and then Brody's video talked about this whole views going down,

562
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000
likes going sharply up, revenue going...

563
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Yeah, likes not going sharply up, but likes staying constant.

564
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,000
Meaning that if views are down but your likes are the same,

565
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,000
the ratio of viewers liking the content is skyrocketing.

566
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,000
And then a pattern as well of revenue also staying constant,

567
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:13,000
meaning that your CPMs or your amount of money per view also went down.

568
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,000
Yeah, that's another big thing that I found. I think that was a couple days ago now.

569
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:24,000
I was looking at our revenue numbers because, okay, are we getting less views?

570
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,000
If we're getting less views, we should be making less money. Every YouTuber makes money off of AdSense.

571
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:35,000
That should track. I did a linear regression on revenue to view count

572
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:41,000
and it is pretty much perfectly, statistically correlated with no outliers.

573
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Revenue is stable around our average.

574
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,000
It hasn't moved within one sigma from that mean.

575
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
But viewership is down over one sigma,

576
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,000
so like 65 to 98% kind of outside normal.

577
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000
And then like ratio is up by two sigma.

578
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,000
So it's like everyone who is seeing this,

579
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,000
I think your views are the same. I think they haven't changed.

580
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000
And you can check your revenue numbers and you can check your like ratio as well.

581
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Another thing that I did is I calculated our revenue per view,

582
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,000
which is kind of a CPM that we make.

583
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,000
It's like an RPM but not the one that YouTube reports.

584
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000
YouTube's reported CPM and RPM have no statistical correlation

585
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,000
to view count at all. But if you take the number of views you get

586
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,000
and the amount of money you get, you get like an RPM.

587
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000
That number has also skyrocketed by about the same.

588
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:46,000
And what I managed to do was I calculated our average RPM

589
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:52,000
and then I kind of flipped it around. So instead of RPM revenue divided by views,

590
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,000
I did how many views we should have got

591
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,000
for this amount of revenue that we generated.

592
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,000
And what I found is that it's a little bit more wonky,

593
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000
but the views are where they're supposed to be.

594
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:11,000
The numbers are roughly where they're supposed to be

595
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,000
on the average, which I thought was very strange. Do you have any of these visuals for the people?

596
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,000
Yeah, they're going to take me a sec. Why don't you guys discuss,

597
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,000
because I got to like screen cap and download all these pictures.

598
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:29,000
It's been interesting. I was flagged to this video and in classic fashion,

599
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,000
I haven't watched it and I haven't read the comments.

600
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

601
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Here we go. It's probably full of furry porn.

602
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000
No, no, no.

603
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000
It's a dark Viper video.

604
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000
But he released a video 17 hours ago.

605
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,000
I've been traveling, so I haven't been able to watch it, but he released a video 17 hours ago,

606
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,000
just in quotes saying, I guess my retirement is coming sooner than I thought.

607
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,000
And I've heard that it's about this YouTube performance thing

608
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000
that's going on.

609
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,000
So maybe consider checking that out. I've seen some other creators talking about it.

610
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,000
There's some theories, I believe Brody, who really tipped us off on all of this stuff.

611
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000
There's theories that I believe he said as well,

612
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000
that it might be kind of being A, B tested.

613
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
So some channels are getting hit by whatever this is

614
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
and other channels seem to not be.

615
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000
I have talked to other creators that think that they've had

616
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,000
none of these effects and I've looked at their results

617
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,000
and their overall revenue is staying kind of flat.

618
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Their like to view ratio is staying kind of flat

619
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,000
and their overall views are staying kind of right where they expected.

620
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,000
And then you're seeing other creators where this exactly

621
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,000
similar pattern is happening where the like to view ratio

622
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000
and the CPMs are just going way up

623
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,000
and the views are going way down and it's all on the exact, it happened to everybody

624
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,000
at the exact same time. So it's really, really, really hard.

625
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,000
We don't know, obviously, we have no idea, but it's really hard to point to this and say

626
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,000
there isn't something going on in YouTube land.

627
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Obviously, you can always do better, sure.

628
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,000
And there are various theories for how something like

629
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,000
this could happen legitimately.

630
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:25,000
One of the theories that I've seen is that YouTube could be cleaning up idle autoplay.

631
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,000
So something that I do know is that an idle view

632
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,000
is not worth as much. It cannot be monetized as effectively

633
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,000
as an active, engaged view.

634
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,000
It's also less likely to result in clicking the like button

635
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,000
because you're sleeping or you're otherwise away

636
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,000
or idling. And so that is a potential hypothesis

637
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:55,000
for how a video could perform as expected

638
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,000
in terms of the revenue and in terms of the viewer engagement,

639
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,000
but not register nearly as many views

640
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,000
or nearly as much watch time.

641
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,000
It could also explain why some of these very low viewership videos

642
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,000
have really great retention and really great user sentiment.

643
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,000
The same or better. It turns out this is a good video.

644
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,000
It's just that like nobody's watching it

645
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,000
or maybe YouTube is fine tuning things

646
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,000
so that only people who are actually very interested

647
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,000
and very actively engaged are watching it. That's one theory I've seen.

648
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,000
So I've got our chart here ready. And I'm going to hold on.

649
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Let me finish with the kind of random theories first. I'll keep writing some more.

650
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,000
Yeah, as soon as you're ready after that. Another one is that there's this new feature

651
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:48,000
called I think it's called hype that showed up in the dashboard right around that time.

652
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,000
And I think it has to do with helping to promote small channels.

653
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,000
So another theory that I've seen is that,

654
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000
no, the viewer drop is real,

655
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,000
but it is mostly affecting only certain kinds of channels

656
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,000
or it's mostly affecting established channels

657
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,000
because this hype feature is kind of designed to elevate smaller channels

658
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,000
and diversify the content on the platform a little bit.

659
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,000
I think there could be some merit there, but it doesn't really back up some of the observations

660
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,000
that we've seen within our own dashboard over the last little while.

661
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Like after that one video that absolutely

662
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,000
bombinated the hidden gaming setup

663
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,000
in my new desk one that still has half a million views,

664
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,000
which I want to just get this out there.

665
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Most people on earth would be thrilled to get half a million views on their YouTube video.

666
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,000
And that's like huge.

667
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,000
I'm not down on getting half a million views

668
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:51,000
on a YouTube video, that's awesome. Like good job if you've ever managed to achieve that.

669
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,000
I'm just saying that when you have like a hundred staff

670
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,000
and you've kind of built a model around expecting a certain number of views,

671
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:03,000
then that can be a disappointment because that could mean that the model is no longer sustainable.

672
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,000
So that's where I'm coming from here. So right after that one that bombed,

673
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:13,000
we had our worst performing WAN Show in,

674
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,000
I don't know, years.

675
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,000
It was rough. Yeah, last WAN Show was an absolute bomb.

676
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,000
But then we had two one out of 10s in a row.

677
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,000
And when I say a one out of 10, that means that it is the top performing video

678
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,000
out of the last 10 uploaded to your channel.

679
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,000
That's a good thing. It sounds like a bad thing, but it's a good thing.

680
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Yes, so we had Nintendo's greed could change the industry.

681
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,000
That was a one out of 10. It now has 1.6 million views.

682
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,000
And it looks like a pretty normal like ratio.

683
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,000
So I don't know if I would believe that it's supposed to have 3 million views by now.

684
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:59,000
And then we're being forced to buy Chromebooks, which was a really like back to basics old school LTT,

685
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,000
filmed on phones, completely unscripted. Me and David went shopping for Chromebooks.

686
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,000
That was another one out of 10, which also like has it's got a good,

687
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,000
you know, like ratio and everything, but not an outlier by any stretch of the imagination.

688
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,000
Then we had another bomb yesterday.

689
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,000
And so that unfortunately, I think kind of derailed the conversation

690
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,000
within the community to, yeah, you guys aren't getting views because your content sucks.

691
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,000
And it's like, look, I get it. The how many monitors is too many?

692
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Sure, you can make the argument it sucked. Looking back at it now with people's feedback,

693
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,000
it's like, yeah, you know what? I think our ratio of not the ones

694
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,000
that got the LG monitors shipped to them could have been better.

695
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,000
And like it probably could have been longer.

696
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,000
It just was bad timing. We've been internally, we've been discussing,

697
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,000
hey, how do we get our video lengths down a little bit?

698
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,000
But that was shot before that happened. So the ratio probably would have been better.

699
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,000
Anyway, the point is just it spilled milk at this point.

700
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Even with some of the negative feedback around it,

701
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,000
the viewership is very, very low,

702
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,000
but it's still not nearly as bad as that hidden desk one was,

703
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:14,000
which I think had a better title, better thumbnail, better premise and was like a real, real outlier.

704
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,000
I really thought that the title thumbnail

705
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,000
on the desk video was fantastic.

706
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,000
So, okay, with all that in mind then,

707
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,000
I don't know what to think other than

708
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,000
if they are A.B. testing something, it might even not be channel wide.

709
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,000
I mean, it might be video to video for all I can tell.

710
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Or maybe they just aren't A.B. testing something

711
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:43,000
and maybe those videos just suck. And at the end of the day, like our action plan

712
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,000
just has to be make the best possible content we can

713
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,000
and upload as much of it as we can. That's all we can do.

714
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,000
That's all we can do. But it's still, you know, I don't think it hurts

715
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,000
to have these conversations. So, okay, Dan, you got us some visuals

716
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,000
to show the people now, right? I do, I do. Hopefully they can make sense.

717
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,000
And are we okay with throwing some revenue numbers or shall I keep that one out of it?

718
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,000
No, whatever. Yeah, okay. So, here is the first one I got.

719
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,000
At the top here, we've got... Dan, you might want to either hide yourself or put yourself in a sec.

720
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,000
I will get rid of myself in a second. In the top here, we've got views and the bottom one here is our likes.

721
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,000
No, don't do it, Dan! The green line in the center there is our average.

722
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:23,000
One segment, two sigma above that. You can see like ratio has gone ridiculous

723
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,000
and views are down two.

724
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,000
The next one here... No, no, put that back up. Do you have a mouse pointer that you can kind of use

725
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,000
to really show them the date?

726
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,000
Maybe? Probably not. Help the people.

727
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Okay, fine. Well, basically it's... Let me do that.

728
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,000
It's around the start of August there, then. That's right.

729
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Where the like to view ratio on the top,

730
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,000
just skyrockets, where the low water mark

731
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,000
becomes what used to be a high water mark, right?

732
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,000
And then right on that same day, pretty much,

733
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,000
you go down to the bottom and view performance goes...

734
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:08,000
And like some of that can be explained a little bit because if a video is only viewed

735
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,000
by the super hardcore audience, they're more likely to...

736
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,000
Yes. Tap like. But this is...

737
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,000
This does not explain that entirely.

738
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

739
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,000
There, I made a pointer. So, yeah, as you can kind of see,

740
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,000
like this is where it kind of starts. Right in August, it all goes a bit weird.

741
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,000
And then if we compare that with all of our videos

742
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,000
we've ever made, which is this one here. So I pulled all 6,000.

743
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,000
You can see right at the end here, this goes up.

744
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,000
Most of it's just like noise

745
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,000
for the entire history of the channel. And then it just goes zoop.

746
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,000
And then same here. It just kind of drops down to nothing.

747
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,000
And there are definitely some outliers over the years

748
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,000
where there's days that have like a spectacular like ratio.

749
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,000
But those, if you go and you drill down into them,

750
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,000
what you're going to find is things like the dbrand sponsored video

751
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,000
where we just like uploaded that video of dbrand trolling me.

752
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,000
That has a phenomenal like to view ratio.

753
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Or ones where, you know, Elijah said, hey, if we get 100,000 likes,

754
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,000
I'll make this weird hope poster with CEO Taren Tong,

755
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:31,000
which we did get and we did have to make. So those are some of the outliers that you guys are seeing there.

756
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Everything else is pretty much our typical way of doing things

757
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,000
where we don't really call out the like button super hard,

758
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,000
our content. I wouldn't, I wouldn't describe it as say me.

759
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,000
I don't think that's fair, but I think it's consistent for the most part.

760
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Another thing that I did is that second wind video that came out,

761
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,000
got shared around. This is their channel.

762
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,000
And I can see exactly pretty much the same thing.

763
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,000
Their like ratio goes insane. Their views kind of go down.

764
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,000
I've had to correct this one a little bit because they have sort of mini channels, right?

765
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,000
You got Yahtzee and them and there's all those sorts of spikes.

766
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,000
But the most of their channel performance is around here.

767
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,000
And then you can kind of see there's a bit of drop off, but that like ratio goes crazy,

768
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,000
which is very, very strange as well. If we move on to our revenue here,

769
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,000
this is from a more recent kind of time period.

770
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,000
But you can see that the views drop off here,

771
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,000
but revenue is still within that 65% middle band.

772
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,000
And then our revenue per view goes up like in saying,

773
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,000
they're like way out of normal,

774
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,000
which is kind of interesting as well.

775
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,000
Very, very, very strange.

776
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,000
If you want to see that as a linear regression,

777
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:53,000
you can kind of see here. So this top one is the provided CPM.

778
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,000
So basically, yeah, like no,

779
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:03,000
absolutely no correlation between CPM and views.

780
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,000
And then the bottom one here is our views to estimated revenue,

781
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,000
which would kind of tell me that our revenues not being adjusted

782
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,000
because we're still getting the same amount of views and we're still getting the same amount of revenue.

783
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Or rather, we're not getting the same number of views. Sorry, yeah.

784
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,000
Yeah. The expected amount of revenue is weird.

785
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000
This last one here is that kind of flip.

786
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,000
So you can kind of again see on the right hand side here,

787
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,000
we've got our...

788
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,000
Right, like these two graphs track

789
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,000
really, really closely with each other

790
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000
until suddenly at the beginning of August, they decouple.

791
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:45,000
Absolutely. And you do see some slight decoupling, but not consistent.

792
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,000
And if you can think about where our numbers are supposed to be,

793
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,000
which are roughly around 1.5 to 2 million, these are there.

794
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Just the views are really low. Some of them are still coupled.

795
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,000
I don't know what's going on. I don't know enough.

796
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Nice. But that's really strange.

797
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,000
I've got more. But wait, there's more.

798
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,000
But wait, there's more. Which one is this?

799
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,000
This is Dark Viper. He posted that video today.

800
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,000
I see the same thing. You can see his like ratio goes crazy

801
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:21,000
and hits views are down. He hits two what would be all-time highs

802
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,000
for like ratio in the last month.

803
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,000
You got to be kidding me, right? Mm-hmm.

804
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,000
While his views are in the absolute toilet

805
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,000
at low points for this entire data range.

806
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,000
See here? Yeah. Like, come on.

807
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,000
Come on, man. Another interesting thing that I'm seeing is

808
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,000
like the like ratio is super decoupled from views initially.

809
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,000
Like, you'll have a video that has 100,000 views

810
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,000
and it has 80,000 likes. And the likes go up even more.

811
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,000
Like, I was tracking the... Do you want to go back to talking heads?

812
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,000
Yeah, let's probably do that. Have you really seen it that bad?

813
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,000
100,000 views, 80,000 likes? That's insane. Yeah, the second wind video I started tracking

814
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:08,000
immediately after it got posted and like I was looking at the like ratio on that.

815
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,000
It was within the first hour. It had like 40,000 views and like nearly 40,000 likes.

816
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,000
Like the ratio for it was just at the absolute top.

817
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,000
They're lagging. And I think a couple other channels have mentioned that.

818
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,000
I think Dark Viper mentioned that. I think somebody else did too.

819
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Yeah, I saw someone mentioning that they encountered a situation

820
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:33,000
where their internal dashboard actually registered fewer views

821
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:38,000
than the external view counter. Which they said in like some number of...

822
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,000
Big number of years of doing this they'd never seen.

823
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,000
I've never seen it either. Normally our internal real-time view counter

824
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,000
or even the non-real-time internal view counter in the studio

825
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,000
registers significantly more views than what's visible externally

826
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,000
because I think whether it's more vetting

827
00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:01,000
or whether it's just not updating as frequently because of the load that that would put on the external platform.

828
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,000
That view counter is not as accurate supposedly

829
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,000
as the one that we have in our dashboards.

830
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Yeah, I spent the last week or two building a tool to kind of cross-check any channel from any time period.

831
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,000
Likes, comments, stuff like that. Everything is consistent but the number.

832
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,000
I don't think any of us are experiencing a lower view account

833
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,000
or what's happening is we're being served to a smaller group

834
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,000
of more engaged viewers.

835
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:36,000
Because if the light count is consistent but the light ratio is going through the roof,

836
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,000
I don't know. I don't know what it is. But what a view is has changed in my opinion.

837
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Or is being tested to change. However, I have it from someone I would consider

838
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,000
to be extraordinarily good authority

839
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,000
that if that were happening, they'd know

840
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,000
and they don't know about that.

841
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,000
Well, we're not getting less money. Yeah, so I mean...

842
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,000
Alright, party on! That's a complicated...

843
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,000
It is a complicated question. That's a complicated conversation though

844
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,000
because in the eyes of a sponsor,

845
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,000
which I don't know if this has happened to us at all

846
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,000
but theoretically for any creator on YouTube if they're working with outside sponsors

847
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,000
in the eyes of the sponsors, you're getting significantly less views.

848
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
So if your theory is correct and there's a bunch of theories

849
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,000
and we have no idea which one is correct, if your theory is correct and we're actually getting the same amount of views,

850
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,000
then it's really screwing over our ability

851
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:40,000
to work with outside sponsors which will extremely negatively impact groups like us

852
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,000
which are like larger companies

853
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,000
that are quite heavily reliant on that sponsor money.

854
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,000
Or hear me out. Maybe it won't matter that much because...

855
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,000
And here, I'm gonna...

856
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:59,000
Let me see if there's a way for me to do this easily.

857
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Okay, I'm gonna try and show a one-week view.

858
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,000
Let's go from last Friday to this Thursday.

859
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,000
I'm gonna kind of show you... Oh, man!

860
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,000
Okay, this is tough.

861
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:18,000
So what I'm trying to do is show the...

862
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,000
Oh, balls, I suck at this interface. Okay, there.

863
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,000
What are you doing? I'm trying to bring up my Shopify dashboard.

864
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,000
So the point that I'm trying to make here is that...

865
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:33,000
Yeah, this is not gonna demonstrate very well because we actually typically have a Friday spike for WAN Show

866
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,000
and then it lulls and then it spikes again on Fridays so it's kind of cyclical.

867
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:41,000
So it's gonna look like it is going down. But day-to-day this week,

868
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,000
or even last week when we had the big viewership dip,

869
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,000
there wasn't a reduction in sales on LTT Store.

870
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,000
So it's possible that the sponsors won't care

871
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,000
because our referral rates might seem,

872
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,000
to Dan's point earlier, like they're actually skyrocketing

873
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,000
but way more qualified views or impressions or referrals.

874
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,000
Yeah, to me, they're more high quality.

875
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,000
Would this change how we communicate to sponsors

876
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,000
or are we already talking in a conversion rate sense?

877
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,000
I don't really know the business side. I don't think it would change anything,

878
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,000
at least not in the short to medium term.

879
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,000
I mean, a lot of the partners that we work with,

880
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:30,000
we've worked with for a very long time through good times and through less good times.

881
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,000
And we try to work with our partners

882
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:38,000
in a reasonable fashion where, hey, if they get a banger of a video

883
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,000
that does six million views, we don't charge them extra for that.

884
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,000
And in the same vein, when they get a dog

885
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,000
that gets half a million views, they don't come to us going like,

886
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:54,000
I want my money back, where's my money back? I think they understand that there's

887
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,000
a certain amount of variability here and if they stick with us,

888
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,000
we've been such consistent performers on the platform

889
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,000
for so long that we kind of have to understand each other

890
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,000
that it's going to come out in the wash. Eventually.

891
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,000
Eventually. Speaking of the wash,

892
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,000
unless Dan, did you have some more things you wanted to share with the folks?

893
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,000
Because otherwise we should probably discuss the silver I'm wearing.

894
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,000
Yeah, I don't know. I think if people want to reach out

895
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,000
and have me run their stats or if you have any more data for me,

896
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,000
I would really appreciate that. Yeah, I guess try and find me

897
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,000
and we'll have a look at your channel.

898
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,000
Yeah, Loose Guy, Twitter, email me. I don't know.

899
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,000
We'll figure it out. Product.

900
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,000
Okay, yeah, let's do it. I actually had brought up one of the bigger reddit threads

901
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,000
on this and I was going to kind of dunk on people's theories a little bit,

902
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,000
but I guess it's probably not worth it. Yeah, every one is wrong.

903
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,000
Yeah, basically if you think you know the answer

904
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,000
and that it's black and white, you're wrong.

905
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,000
You are just wrong. You're just actually wrong. I have charts for that.

906
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,000
You're wrong. There's just so...

907
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,000
Get red. Oh my god, there's so much certainty.

908
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:17,000
There's so much certainty in this reddit thread that is just utterly misplaced.

909
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,000
Well, YouTube's videos have been going down for years.

910
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,000
I have it on extremely good authority. That's not happening.

911
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Seriously, that's true. Well, okay.

912
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,000
There's one theory. I want to be too surprised if your ship is down a little bit

913
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,000
from COVID era, but...

914
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:39,000
You'd be surprised. YouTube is going hard.

915
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:44,000
YouTube's going strong, boys. I heard they're doing better on shorts than TikTok is now,

916
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,000
which is pretty nuts. There is one theory that we had actually discussed internally

917
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,000
as well and that's something I've got a bit of an update

918
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,000
for you guys on. I think we touched on this last week where we felt

919
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,000
that the channel was really being cluttered up by members-only videos.

920
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,000
So we've had some internal discussions this week

921
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,000
about just killing the memberships on YouTube.

922
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,000
That may move forward. Right now, it is not confirmed.

923
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,000
We'll definitely keep the ones that are just like emotes

924
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,000
and flares and stuff like that,

925
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,000
but the actual members-only videos, I think,

926
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,000
may go back to being Floatplane exclusive.

927
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:28,000
However, YouTube has asked for sort of a little bit of time

928
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,000
to figure out if there's something that they can do

929
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,000
to keep us from just walking away from this feature.

930
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,000
Because I think what I suspect, I don't know this for sure,

931
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,000
but what I suspect is that we aren't the only ones complaining

932
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,000
about the way that it's just embedded in the feed

933
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,000
and potentially turning people off of our channel right now.

934
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,000
When we turned memberships on, they weren't like this.

935
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,000
There was a members-only videos tab

936
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,000
and kind of like a Patreon or Floatplane

937
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:02,000
or any other kind of off-platform service.

938
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:07,000
You would drive people to memberships to that tab yourself

939
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,000
as a creator. You would control how you're calling it out

940
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:16,000
and how you're promoting it. The way that it is now, it just seems to be kind of shoved

941
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,000
in the face of anyone who might have a passing interest

942
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:26,000
in your channel, and I think it's really turning people off

943
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,000
at the moment, and that's something that no creator,

944
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:35,000
I don't think, if they aren't supremely arrogant,

945
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,000
would be in a position where they want to do.

946
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,000
You don't want to be turning people off of your channel.

947
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,000
And I honestly don't think this is like Floatplane bias

948
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,000
because I recommended and supported us,

949
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,000
not recommended, but supported us putting

950
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,000
Floatplane content on YouTube.

951
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,000
It has turned me away. This YouTube exclusives being in the main feed

952
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,000
has been very annoying for me as a YouTube enjoyer

953
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,000
of not just our channel, but other people's channels as well.

954
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,000
It is very annoying, and one of the big things that it does

955
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,000
is it pushes me away from the individual channel.

956
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,000
I think it can give people a sense of FOMO

957
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,000
in a good way that converts them to become a member,

958
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:26,000
but I think it can give people a sense of FOMO in a really bad way, especially if that's not something

959
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,000
that is part of their budget right now.

960
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:34,000
Just because I think that our behind the scenes team

961
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,000
is freaking awesome, I think the content's really great.

962
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,000
Sammy kills it. That doesn't mean that everyone should spend

963
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,000
five or $10 a month to get it,

964
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,000
like if that's not a manageable amount of money for you.

965
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,000
I mean, Luke, I don't know if you want to talk about

966
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:55,000
that indicator that you had that times have been pretty tough,

967
01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:01,000
but we fully recognize that times are pretty tough out there,

968
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,000
and the first thing that you should cut out

969
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,000
is throwing money at your screen if times are tough.

970
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:13,000
I can talk about it. It's up to you, really. No, I'm okay with it.

971
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:17,000
Sure. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.

972
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,000
Something I've noticed, and it makes me sad

973
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,000
because I don't want this to be a situation that people are running into, to be completely honest,

974
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,000
but something I've noticed is that we can check,

975
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,000
mostly in Stripe, I'm sure it's possible in Braintree,

976
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:35,000
but Braintree's really annoying to use for anything, but we can check in Stripe what the error codes are

977
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:41,000
that we're getting for failed payments, and you can look at those error codes over time,

978
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,000
and the error code for insufficient funds

979
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:50,000
is a line that is trending up percentage-wise.

980
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,000
The amount of failed payments that are because of insufficient funds

981
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:58,000
is rising over time, to the point where there was one day,

982
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,000
in particular, where there was a lot of cancellations

983
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,000
that seemed like on the platform, and I was looking into why,

984
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:09,000
and it didn't seem like there was a lot of manual cancellations, so I was like, God, it's a lot of failed payments,

985
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:14,000
and I looked into it, and it was just a actually

986
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:19,000
somewhat stunning amount of insufficient funds.

987
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,000
And yeah, just like Linus says, right, like it's...

988
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:26,000
And the insufficient funds code is completely discreet

989
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,000
from the like... Yeah.

990
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,000
Sorry, what's the other one? Rejected or...

991
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,000
Denied. Because denied could be for any reason,

992
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,000
but the insufficient funds one is like, for that reason.

993
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,000
Actually, there's some backup for this in Floatplane Chat.

994
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,000
Hovership says, I work in banking, and this is sadly so true.

995
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,000
Dude, it's crazy, and again, I can't stress it enough.

996
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,000
I love doing the Floatplane stuff. I adore the Floatplane team.

997
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,000
I want to be able to do Floatplane stuff basically forever.

998
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:02,000
I appreciate your guys' support. I also don't want you going to insufficient funds

999
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,000
on a credit card. Like, oh man, it's just...

1000
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,000
It's so destructive to your life

1001
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,000
to just carry credit card debt like that.

1002
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,000
And you know, I can hope that these are just

1003
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:23,000
like really, really low-limit credit cards that people have kept low-limit because of control

1004
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,000
or whatever. I can really hope that it's those things,

1005
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,000
but the volume of errors that we're getting

1006
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,000
indicates that it's not that.

1007
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,000
Yeah. Firefighter6122 in Floatplane Chat says,

1008
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,000
I work in insurance, and we are seeing the same issues.

1009
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,000
Dude. Oh, it's so rough. It's so uncomfortable.

1010
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,000
Yeah. I appreciate your support. I don't want you in that situation.

1011
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,000
Yeah. 100%. Please feel free to come back later.

1012
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,000
The exclusives are there all the time. Yeah.

1013
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,000
So you can come back and see them later. It's okay.

1014
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:59,000
Yep. And I've said this to people before because we've taken

1015
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,000
some criticism for not having regional pricing, right?

1016
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,000
And I fully recognize that five US dollars is not

1017
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,000
a reasonable monthly amount if you are in India

1018
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,000
or some parts of South America, for instance.

1019
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,000
But one of the things that I have said publicly

1020
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,000
is that maintaining the subscription is an amazing way

1021
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,000
of helping support our channel, our development team,

1022
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,000
the incredible work that our editors and Sammy do

1023
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,000
on the exclusive content, not to mention other participants.

1024
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:37,000
We had a really great meet the team with Sammy, who was featured on actually the last two Scrapyard Wars.

1025
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:42,000
That just went up this week. It's a great team, and they love getting your support.

1026
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,000
And that really does come from the people who maintain

1027
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:50,000
their subscription monthly. However, if it is a financial burden on you

1028
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,000
that is not reasonable, don't forget that Floatplane

1029
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,000
offers DRM-free downloads.

1030
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:01,000
We have that. That was baked into the platform from day one.

1031
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,000
Well, it's per creator. Sorry.

1032
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,000
The ability to set that up was baked into the platform

1033
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,000
from day one. We have had it enabled from day one.

1034
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:17,000
We have zero intention of ever removing that. So you can always create for yourself a pay however much

1035
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,000
you want tier. You could subscribe one month a year.

1036
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,000
So you could get effectively, you could pay 8% for Floatplane,

1037
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:30,000
and then you could queue up the downloads for everything you missed over the last year, dump it all in a folder,

1038
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:35,000
and watch it at your leisure. We appreciate your support, but we do not want to drain

1039
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,000
your bank account. That's not what this is about.

1040
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:43,000
There is a rate limit on it. Yes, CWP, but over the span of a month, I think you should

1041
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,000
be able to grab everything that was uploaded.

1042
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,000
There's like, I haven't looked into it in a bit,

1043
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,000
but there's like a GitHub thing for a script for Plex

1044
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,000
that will download it just right below the rate limit

1045
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,000
and stuff like that. We had to do the rate limit thing because people were kind

1046
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:07,000
of abusing it, and so it's just like, this is why we can't have nice things.

1047
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:14,000
But we are not out to put you guys

1048
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,000
in financial straits.

1049
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,000
Okay, I think, oh yeah, Dan, was there anything else

1050
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,000
you wanted to share with the people? I'm not sure.

1051
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:31,000
I think it's still developing. I would love other channels, get their names,

1052
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,000
if they want charts, if we can cross-reference data,

1053
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,000
if we can figure out what's going on. It's about it.

1054
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,000
Cool, why don't we move on to- And everyone's wrong. Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

1055
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,000
That's about it. Including us. Yeah, yes.

1056
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,000
But not for long, if I have anything to say about it. Oh my God.

1057
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:57,000
Dan's putting the paper on. Ah yes, I'm supposed to explain a bunch of messages.

1058
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,000
So once again, can't emphasize this enough.

1059
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,000
If cash is tight, hey, wear your existing sweater

1060
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,000
for another little while, okay?

1061
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:14,000
But if it's not, check this out. Our washed crew neck sweater just launched last week,

1062
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:19,000
and I gotta tell you, people around the office are absolutely loving these.

1063
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:25,000
They're made with 100% cotton with a breathable terry fleece interior that is perfect for the fall,

1064
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,000
and you can get them at LMG.gg slash crew neck.

1065
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:34,000
Also, oh, look at this. We have a deal on magnetic cable management this week.

1066
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,000
You can, oh wait, I was supposed to explain merge messages.

1067
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:43,000
Right, so the way to interact with the show, we've never been really that supportive of the idea

1068
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:47,000
of just throwing money at the screen. We kind of feel that you should get something in return.

1069
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,000
Why not some quality merchandise? So all you've got to do to send a merge message

1070
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,000
to interact with the show and send a little message there

1071
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,000
or get a response from producer Dan

1072
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,000
or have him curate it for me and Luke

1073
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:05,000
to discuss later on during After Dark is add something to your cart on lttstore.com

1074
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:10,000
like the new washed crew neck sweater or the magnetic cable management deal I'm about to tell you about.

1075
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,000
Fill in the merge message field, go ahead and place your order,

1076
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,000
and it should go through.

1077
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:21,000
We'll show you guys how it works in a second, but first I'm just going to tell you about

1078
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:26,000
the magnetic cable management deal we have this week. You can mix and match packs of individual components

1079
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:30,000
and get 10% off if you buy two, 15% off if you buy three,

1080
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:35,000
20% off if you buy four, and 25% off if you buy five or more.

1081
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:40,000
This includes all arches, power bar keys, power brick holders, and cable tie holders.

1082
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,000
So it's the perfect time to add on to the magnetic cable management you already have

1083
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:49,000
or to try it out if you've never tried it before. You can shop magnetic cable management at LMG.gg

1084
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,000
slash m-c-m.

1085
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,000
And it really is, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, there we go.

1086
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:02,000
It really is this easy. We actually did a collab with Kyle from Bitwit last week,

1087
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,000
and he hadn't tried out m-c-m, and I cable managed his desk for him with it,

1088
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,000
and he was like, oh. And I was like, yeah, and the best part is,

1089
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:16,000
hey, that cable that we forgot to put in. Easy. Easy. Easy.

1090
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,000
It was definitely the best part. Easy fucking magnets.

1091
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:25,000
I don't even care how they work, but my god, are they ever outstanding?

1092
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:29,000
Oh yeah, right. So one of the things that I've been going out of my way

1093
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:34,000
to make sure that I show you fine folks is giving some credit to the team

1094
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:39,000
for the amazing job that they've been doing on our photo shoots lately.

1095
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:43,000
Absolutely love it. So cool.

1096
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,000
Got that, like, vintage look to it. Ariana and Reese, I think.

1097
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:51,000
Yep, that's who we're looking at here. Sorry, I got a very, very small,

1098
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,000
very small picture up there.

1099
01:14:54,000 --> 01:15:00,000
Very cool. And really making the most of the side of our warehouse.

1100
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,000
Great job, guys. All right, Dan, do you want to show the folks

1101
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,000
how a merge message works? Yeah, sure. I've got a couple for you here.

1102
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:14,000
Why don't we start with this one? I only wear jeans. When jeans?

1103
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:19,000
Oh my god. How do I put this?

1104
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:24,000
Never. Jeans are so hard, dude.

1105
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,000
And I can't afford Sidney Sweeney to wear my jeans, you know?

1106
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:32,000
Apparently that was, like, their most successful campaign, like, ever.

1107
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:36,000
Sure. You should just recreate the ad with yourself.

1108
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,000
Oh my god. Yeah, sure. If we had jeans, I would totally do it.

1109
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,000
I wish we did more, like, meming on topical things.

1110
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:49,000
Like, I wanted to talk to the writing team this week

1111
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,000
and do, like, a bit in one of our videos

1112
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,000
where I, like, steal a hat or something.

1113
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:59,000
I don't know if you saw the viral thing from the... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1114
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:04,000
Yeah, from the U.S. Open. But we just, we operate on a relatively...

1115
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:08,000
I think Self Park has a shorter time between

1116
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,000
starting to work on an episode and it airing than we do.

1117
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:17,000
So it's hard for us to be, like, on it with the cultural references.

1118
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:22,000
It's maybe not a great thing. Look, I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm just saying it's a thing.

1119
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,000
It's a little tough for us to do that kind of stuff.

1120
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,000
I forget how we got onto this, right? Jeans, yeah.

1121
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:32,000
Jeans are so personal.

1122
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,000
Everything from the rise to the cut

1123
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:40,000
to the washedness to the rips or not rips

1124
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,000
to patches and the trendiness.

1125
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:47,000
It goes so freaking fast.

1126
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,000
I think it's just not in the cards for us.

1127
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,000
I mean, look, we have managed to finally do pants successfully.

1128
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:59,000
I don't think we had a successful pant until the cargo pants.

1129
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,000
That's been legitimately successful.

1130
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,000
Not just like it did fine, I guess.

1131
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,000
We didn't lose money on it, right? That was the high watermark before.

1132
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,000
But we now have pants that have been successful.

1133
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:18,000
So who knows? You know, never say never, but never.

1134
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,000
And the other one I've got for you here.

1135
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:31,000
Hello, the lad, the dad, and the Chad. Luke, given your based opinions on supporting AMD and switching to Linux,

1136
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:36,000
what are some of your favorite pieces of software? Anything that you find novel or useful?

1137
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:41,000
Hmm. Uh, wow.

1138
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,000
Is this incredibly lame? Well, he thinks.

1139
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,000
Oh, okay, are you good? I don't think I necessarily have one.

1140
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:53,000
A lot of the software that I use is actually the same, which is one of the reasons why I think the switch has been so easy.

1141
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:57,000
Um, like if I want to play a game on my laptop,

1142
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:03,000
I can just play the vast majority of steam games and it's fine.

1143
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:07,000
Um, I use Chrome for work.

1144
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:13,000
I use Zen, which is like a Firefox off-shoot browser for personal stuff.

1145
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:19,000
Um, on my laptop, most of what I'm doing is communications platforms,

1146
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:23,000
which teams is terrible on Linux, but it works.

1147
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,000
It's terrible all the time. So it's really hard to differentiate it that much.

1148
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,000
Um, uh, Slack works perfectly fine.

1149
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,000
Discord works perfectly fine. Obviously email in a browser works perfectly fine.

1150
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:40,000
So the things that I do on my laptop are fairly limited and they're all the same.

1151
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:46,000
Um, outside of that, I haven't dove in super heavily on the customization stuff,

1152
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,000
which I want to do. I just haven't necessarily had the time for it yet.

1153
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,000
Um, I feel like this is such a similar take to what I went through

1154
01:18:54,000 --> 01:19:02,000
when I did the switch to Snapdragon where I went in thinking that I was going to care

1155
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:07,000
and over the span of the much more than a month, I ended up daily driving it.

1156
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,000
I was like, oh, it turns out I don't care.

1157
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:15,000
And most of what I do is in a browser these days, I could just as easily probably use Chrome OS.

1158
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:20,000
But that in my opinion is honestly like a, a better state.

1159
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:28,000
Like I, I'm more excited about the fact that I just kind of like shrug off that I'm running it now than, um,

1160
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,000
I run it by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1161
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,000
But like, but the fact that that is actually totally fine is crazy.

1162
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,000
Like it's, it was not, there was no skill involved.

1163
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,000
I'm not some like, uh, Uber Linux nerd at all,

1164
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:47,000
but I'm running the like scary operating system and it's been completely fine the entire time.

1165
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:51,000
And everything I've tried to do has just like worked. There's been things that have honestly been easier.

1166
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:56,000
You know how when we did the challenge, we were both like stunned at how easy the printer was.

1167
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:01,000
Yeah. Yeah. Especially considering how hard they are on Windows.

1168
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:07,000
Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, most things I've ran into this time have been easier or,

1169
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:11,000
it's just been in an, in kind of like an inverse to normal fashion.

1170
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:23,000
It's been less annoying. Um, like using Windows 11 these days is there's so many little pop ups and pokes and annoying.

1171
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:29,000
Are you sure you don't want to use edge? Hey, this new file you installed, are you sure we can't open it an edge?

1172
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,000
Do you want this weird notification thing? Do you want this other garbage?

1173
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:41,000
Like anytime I try to do anything, it wants to forcibly take the focus window away to some new thing that I don't want.

1174
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,000
And then it just keeps doing that over and over again. It's really, really frustrating.

1175
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:49,000
Windows Firewall randomly started blocking LAN Minecraft games.

1176
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,000
Just like out of nowhere. Like what? Like it was working fine between my kids' computers.

1177
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:59,000
And then all of a sudden it's not. And I'm like, oh my God, who cares?

1178
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:04,000
I'm sure it was in the name of security or something, but oh my God, who cares?

1179
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:09,000
I'm just trying to play a video game on a local area network and they're both set to private.

1180
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,000
That's made by you. That's made by you!

1181
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,000
Exactly. Exactly.

1182
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:23,000
What's the excuse? Dude, there's been, there's been a persistent bug in Halo Infinite for at least a couple weeks now.

1183
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:30,000
That's, that's as long as I've seen it over. Where the first time you launch it on a system, it prompts you to log in, but the login is like behind.

1184
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:37,000
And you can like click and it'll be like ding, ding, ding, ding. Like you can tell it's there, but you have to alt-F4 the game and then launch the game again and then it'll show up.

1185
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,000
And it's like, bro, this is basic.

1186
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:45,000
If you can't handle having a login screen in your software, then don't have one.

1187
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,000
Also, by the way, never log me out.

1188
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:54,000
Oh my God, who cares? Never log me out, but also if I'm, if I'm like global,

1189
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:59,000
global Microsoft account logged in to my computer already, don't ask.

1190
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:03,000
Right! Like, my God.

1191
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:08,000
So anyways, it's been interesting. And then when I click yes, be like, okay.

1192
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:13,000
Yeah. I don't remember if it was after the last Linux challenge.

1193
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:17,000
I think it was, but I don't fully remember where I decided I would like try it on my work laptop.

1194
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:24,000
And then eventually I abandoned that because there was so much tedium of like keeping it running that I thought it was lowering,

1195
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,000
even if by a small amount, it was lowering my productivity at work.

1196
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:36,000
And I decided that I couldn't do a like personal thing that resulted in the lowering of my work productivity, if that makes sense.

1197
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:41,000
It's like one of the main reasons why I use Chrome for work is because of all the different profiles that I have.

1198
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,000
I find Chrome is by far best at managing that.

1199
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:50,000
It's not the like, the, the small individual day to day usage of the browser.

1200
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:55,000
It's, it's purely just the profile management is like amazing and it kicks the butt of everything else.

1201
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:59,000
And profile management doesn't matter to me too much for my personal stuff because it's one account.

1202
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:09,000
So it sort of solves itself. But yeah, I eventually ditched running Linux on my work laptop because it was too tedious and honestly, legitimately, at this point,

1203
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:15,000
I suspect that I might be more productive on Linux because of the amount of time that it just gets out of my way.

1204
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:19,000
I think if we redo the Linux challenge, it's just going to be boring.

1205
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:28,000
It might be. Legitimately, it might be. We'll have to like, we'll have to really pad it out to get, you know, a 12 minute runtime or a nine minute runtime out of just like,

1206
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:36,000
yeah, everything kind of went okay. Well, and like something that might be a little bit different is I'm running Linux on my laptop, which is a lot lighter use.

1207
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,000
And again, it's a lot of browser stuff and whatnot.

1208
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:44,000
But like, I also don't game as much as you used to. Like I remember that being a big challenge for you last time we did the Linux challenges.

1209
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:48,000
You were like, oh, this sucks because like games came out and I couldn't play.

1210
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:52,000
If we do it once, Battlefield 6 is out. Hopefully I'll be playing some more of that.

1211
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,000
Yeah, is it supported on Steam OS?

1212
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,000
I don't know. And like Silk song is here.

1213
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,000
I'm excited for that. There's some games coming right now that are exciting.

1214
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:09,000
Silk song, I'm pretty sure it's supported. Yeah, but yeah, it's interesting.

1215
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:14,000
I have something to add to Luke's, you know, softwares that he likes there.

1216
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:20,000
We do have an actual series on the channel called LSD or Luke's software discoveries.

1217
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:25,000
Two whole episodes from 11 and 10 years ago, respectively.

1218
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:31,000
He shows you how to simplify your screenshots with push.

1219
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,000
I don't know if push even exists anymore. So I don't know.

1220
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:40,000
Share X, I guess. And also top five hidden uses for VLC, Luke's software discoveries, episode two.

1221
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,000
Wow, that one actually did like pretty good for that era.

1222
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,000
Half a million views. Not bad. It's not too bad.

1223
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:52,000
Yeah. Cause if I remember quickly, Luke's software discoveries never went like that well either.

1224
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,000
So that that considered, I think that video must have done pretty well.

1225
01:24:55,000 --> 01:25:00,000
Imagine being proud of having a Gildan t-shirt partnership.

1226
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,000
Wow. Anywho.

1227
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,000
Times of change. Yeah, good job. I don't know.

1228
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:12,000
The final takeaway is honestly at this point in time, I think if I move my laptop back to Windows,

1229
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:18,000
there would be more TDM involved with keeping it up to date, dealing with its updates,

1230
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:24,000
dealing with Windows getting in my way, popping things up, shoving ads in my face, doing those types of things.

1231
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:28,000
Then Linux's general just getting out of my way.

1232
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:34,000
I've also found that like updating ARCH is this big scary thing and then you install it

1233
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:39,000
and it's so far for me been like just as easier, easier than Windows Update.

1234
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,000
Dude, Windows Update is so annoying.

1235
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,000
Like you click check for updates and it's like no updates.

1236
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,000
And then you click it again two seconds later. It's like, here's a gigantic service pack level update.

1237
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:54,000
It's like, bro, why isn't this downloaded already?

1238
01:25:54,000 --> 01:26:01,000
I've only been doing this for a few months. I'm sure I'll run into something that sucks eventually, but I also just have my data,

1239
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:05,000
whatever small amount of data that I have stored on an extra partition.

1240
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,000
And if I need to reinstall ARCH, I can just do that.

1241
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:13,000
According to Crystal, push does still exist and they do technically still have a page up,

1242
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,000
but now just hold on a gosh darn second here.

1243
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:22,000
Download Windows XP to eight and download iPhone app store.

1244
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:28,000
Literally doesn't connect to anything. So I don't know.

1245
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,000
Yeah, I think we can move on to share X or honestly,

1246
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:37,000
these days just nipping tool and pasting the image somewhere tends to work.

1247
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,000
Most chat applications could take attachments now.

1248
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:45,000
Okay. No, I'm super necessary tool anymore.

1249
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,000
Want to do another topic? What do you want to talk about?

1250
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:54,000
What do we got here?

1251
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,000
What was another one of the title topics? Have we gone through? Oh, not title topics.

1252
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,000
The show. Intel battlemage one. We could do that.

1253
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:05,000
Oh boy, sure. You sound so excited. I mean, it is legitimately pretty cool.

1254
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:13,000
The dual slot low profile ARC Pro B 50 has an MSRP of 349 US dollars,

1255
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:17,000
a slight increase from the 299 they mentioned at Computex earlier this year,

1256
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:21,000
which Intel blames on a combination of memory pricing and tariff risks,

1257
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,000
which to be completely honest sounds actually fair.

1258
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:34,000
I don't know. The B 50 features 16 XE2 cores, 16 gigabytes of GTDR6 memory bandwidth of 224 gigabytes per second.

1259
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:41,000
PCI 5.0 8X interface for mini display ports, all at a TDP of just 70 Watts,

1260
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,000
allowing it to be powered entirely by the PCI slot,

1261
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:49,000
which is a feature in this case that will be cared about.

1262
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,000
Yeah, how much the rest of this people care about?

1263
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:59,000
Apparently the B 50 performed favorably next to the $400 NVIDIA RTX A1000 8 gig,

1264
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:06,000
which was an ampere 2024 release. But it has double the memory, which is pretty cool that, you know,

1265
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:10,000
Intel's not cheaping out on memory because that's apparently something

1266
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:15,000
we can't take for granted these days. Especially pretty cool right now, considering a lot of the applications

1267
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:21,000
that you're going to want to use GPUs for are actually very heavily memory bound.

1268
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,000
SRIOV is also a very cool feature to support.

1269
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:30,000
So essentially this allows it to be split up virtualization style like a CPU

1270
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:37,000
and shared across multiple VMs if you don't really need high-end 3D performance.

1271
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:44,000
SRIOV the home did some initial tests and it's apparently pretty flippin' decent.

1272
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:49,000
Also, it could be the cheapest way to get AV1 encoding in a small form factor case

1273
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,000
because it's dual slot, low profile.

1274
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:57,000
So Intel continues to do some super cool stuff on the GPU side.

1275
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:05,000
Just want to shout out that the B580 is a heck of a lot of gaming GPU for $260

1276
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:08,000
in stock across multiple SKUs.

1277
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:16,000
This is two SKUs in stock, $260 and $270 on new egg.

1278
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:21,000
You, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on a second.

1279
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:25,000
Get Battlefield 6 and more with purchase.

1280
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:30,000
What is that? Is that real? Before we dive into that, just want to say this before I forget,

1281
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,000
John Doyren from the lab just messaged me and said that the B580 can also game.

1282
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:38,000
It's not the best, but at 75 watts, it's actually not bad, which is really...

1283
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,000
The B50. B50. B580 is the consumer.

1284
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,000
Did I say 580? Yeah, yeah. B50.

1285
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,000
He said B50. I read it wrong. Hold on.

1286
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:54,000
Is this deal real? I'm not sure what you're seeing. I'm on new egg right now and it says you get Battlefield...

1287
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,000
Hold on. Where is it?

1288
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:01,000
Did I imagine it? Am I crazy?

1289
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:05,000
This just says free 3D mark test. It says additional items until gamer days.

1290
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:15,000
Until gamer days. Holy crap. You get Battlefield 6 with an ARC from August 25th to September 14th.

1291
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:19,000
That's actually... What's the value of a base version Battlefield 6?

1292
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:23,000
What does that make the cost of the card if you were going to buy Battlefield 6?

1293
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,000
Redemption URL until gamer days offer $70.

1294
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:31,000
Is that like $120 B580, basically?

1295
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:35,000
That's crazy. That's actually nuts.

1296
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,000
How much is Battlefield 6 in USD?

1297
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:44,000
It's $70, apparently.

1298
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:52,000
Whoa. And yet, in spite of us pointing out that you can get a heck of a lot of GPU from someone

1299
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:58,000
other than Team Green, NVIDIA is, I think, at all time high market share.

1300
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,000
Did that come out this week? Yeah.

1301
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:06,000
Here we go. This is from Tom's Hardware, published three days ago.

1302
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:13,000
NVIDIA dominates GPU shipments with 94% share.

1303
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:20,000
94% guys, I get it, okay?

1304
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:27,000
The cool thing to do is to root for AMD and Intel to survive in the GPU space so that

1305
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,000
you can get a cheaper NVIDIA card because they have competitors.

1306
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:38,000
But if nobody buys these other products, even when they are legitimately good, like that

1307
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:46,000
B580 for flipping under $200 if you were going to buy Battlefield 6, that is a fucking

1308
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:52,000
insane value right now. Dude, it's close to $100 if you're going to buy Battlefield 6.

1309
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,000
Go buy a stupid 5060.

1310
01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:04,000
Go be a sheep. Buy a 5060. Basically, if you're not getting the word out about there being other options, you have

1311
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:11,000
no one to blame but yourself when NVIDIA prices their cards like the actual monopoly that

1312
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:20,000
they are. 94% is an actual monopoly.

1313
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,000
Yeah. That is nuts.

1314
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,000
There's laws around effective monopoly, right?

1315
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,000
I mean, I don't think anyone's going to protect gamers, right?

1316
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:47,000
Like the thing is that a lot of anti-monopoly laws are designed to protect people from

1317
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,000
being exploited, right? Right.

1318
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:56,000
So when there's a monopoly on food production, that's really bad.

1319
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:03,000
When there's monopolistic behavior in financial services, that's really, really, really bad

1320
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,000
or insurance, things that people need.

1321
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:13,000
I don't think you're going to get a consumer watchdog coming in and going, hey, these entirely

1322
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:18,000
optional video gaming accessories, these are too expensive.

1323
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:27,000
It's not going to happen. What is that impacts us as people who are technology enthusiasts and gamers?

1324
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:33,000
I don't think even the most stalwart of gamers is going to make a straight-faced argument

1325
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:38,000
that it's somehow as important as food or shelter or water or transportation, right?

1326
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,000
Like it's...

1327
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,000
I think it just kind of is what it is.

1328
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:50,000
Yeah. That makes sense. It's unfortunate, but it makes sense.

1329
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:58,000
I'm still a little bit stuck on that Intel deal.

1330
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,000
I know, right? Is that worth a video?

1331
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:09,000
I mean... Like the cheapest BF6 PC and you include that bundle because it's just like so insane?

1332
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,000
I mean, that's not a bad idea, yeah.

1333
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:20,000
Because that is one of probably the craziest GPU bundles I think I've ever seen, literally ever.

1334
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:29,000
No, I wouldn't say ever. GTX 460 had some bundles where it came with, I think, Metro Exodus or something like that.

1335
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,000
And that was a very affordable GPU.

1336
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:39,000
There have been times back when AMD and NVIDIA were really at each other's throats competing,

1337
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:46,000
legitimately actually competing, where you'd buy a card and you'd get like three or four games with it and stuff.

1338
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,000
I remember that, yeah. That hasn't really been a thing for a very long time.

1339
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:59,000
I don't remember that... Not to dog on the games, but I don't remember them being like massive, extremely important multiplayer titles.

1340
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,000
I mean, you know, Orange Box.

1341
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:08,000
Orange Box came for free with a GPU that I bought.

1342
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:13,000
So like, no, there's deals. How expensive was that GPU though?

1343
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,000
There's been deals. I don't know, 250, 300 bucks.

1344
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:19,000
Remember, back then that was like a pretty high-end card though.

1345
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:24,000
But still, there's definitely been deals.

1346
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:33,000
But this is probably the best one that I can remember seeing in a while, where there's an actually, hotly anticipated, actually AAA looking game

1347
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,000
that comes with a $260 GPU.

1348
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:40,000
That's pretty outstanding. Dan, do you want to actually send that video idea to me?

1349
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:44,000
Can you just throw that in my inbox real quick? And then I'll follow it up next week.

1350
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,000
I don't know that we'd be able to execute on this in time to have...

1351
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:52,000
I wasn't listening. Basically, cheapest Battlefield 6 PC.

1352
01:35:52,000 --> 01:36:00,000
Got it. Yeah, thanks. It'd be great if we could get early access to the game so we could actually validate that it runs really good, but I don't...

1353
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:03,000
Do we have contacts, potentially? Figure that out.

1354
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:12,000
I have one. Yeah, if you know someone, then that would go a long way, because the last thing I would want to do is just go off the recommended specs on the box,

1355
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,000
because it's not necessarily the best.

1356
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:21,000
And we would have kind of our own standards and our own thoughts on what we feel is a really playable PC,

1357
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:24,000
and we want to make sure that we get the CPU, and especially memory.

1358
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:29,000
A lot of discourse on how much memory is enough for gaming these days.

1359
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:36,000
Some people are saying 16 gigs is still enough. I was talking to Ploof today because we were shooting a video at my house with the world's biggest TV.

1360
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,000
We got Hisense's new 116 inch.

1361
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,000
Oh my God, guys, don't miss this video. This thing's incredible.

1362
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:46,000
Anyway, the point is he was saying 32 gigs isn't enough for him anymore,

1363
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:55,000
because he's a person like you, Luke, who's late for the lobby because he has two games running anyway.

1364
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:59,000
So he'll often have multiple games running, plus a bunch of Chrome tabs, plus his voice comms,

1365
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:05,000
and he's like, yeah, I often run out of RAM and I'll get like warning messages with 32 gigs.

1366
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:12,000
So I kind of need to go 64. So there's a wide range of what people consider to be enough RAM for gaming,

1367
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:21,000
and so we'd want to make sure that we are validating that before we recommend a minimum spec that realistically is very minimum,

1368
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,000
and you're not going to be happy with, right?

1369
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:31,000
Yeah, I don't know that I can get us early access, but I know a really good person to ask, basically.

1370
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,000
Okay. All right. Well, yeah, we'll see what we can do.

1371
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:38,000
Maybe we'll chase it down next week, and I don't even know if we'd be able to execute in time,

1372
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:43,000
because this deal expires in like, by Monday, it will be...

1373
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:48,000
Oh my God, where's my calendar? Just let the calendar behave like I expected to.

1374
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:52,000
When was the end date? Yeah, by Monday, we will have, I think it was the 14th or something.

1375
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:56,000
We'll have like less than a week, so I don't know if we're going to get it done in time.

1376
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:01,000
Besides, now that we've flagged this deal on WAN Show, they might all just sell out anyway, so it might be too late.

1377
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:06,000
I mean, I can't imagine that Intel has literally 0% market share.

1378
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,000
They didn't even show up on the...

1379
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:12,000
It said NVIDIA had 94%. This is from Tom's hardware.

1380
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:17,000
NVIDIA had 94%, AMD had 6%, and Intel literally didn't even show up.

1381
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:23,000
So I got to imagine that New Egg is not stocking that many Asrock Challenger Arc B580s.

1382
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,000
What, the 20 in stock? 30? I don't know.

1383
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:27,000
Can't be that many.

1384
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:34,000
All right. What do you want to talk about next?

1385
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,000
Oh, you know what? Actually, I'm going to pick something.

1386
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:44,000
Before we do our sponsors, we have an update to the Roblox Child Predators story.

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This is Elijah posted this in here. Two weeks ago, we talked about how YouTuber Schlepp, known for taking down child predators on Roblox,

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had his accounts banned and received a cease and desist letter sent by Roblox.

1389
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Well, things have been heating up. Chris Hansen, yes, that Chris Hansen has thrown his hat into the ring,

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announcing a documentary involving Schlepp and many other journalists and investigative teams.

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Lawyer and YouTuber Law by Mike has also thrown his hat in the ring, announcing a lawsuit against Roblox

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over their failure to properly protect underage children.

1393
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:31,000
I do not know Law by Mike. I do know that some Law YouTubers have been known to kind of, or not even Law YouTubers,

1394
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,000
but some YouTubers have been known to kind of file performative lawsuits,

1395
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:41,000
but not actually follow through on them. So I don't know much about him, but it is something that has happened.

1396
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:47,000
Conveniently, Roblox also announced they are getting an ESRB age rating system for games within Roblox,

1397
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:51,000
and by the end of the year, all users who want to use communications features

1398
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:57,000
have to have their age estimated by the platform in order to confirm they are over nine years old.

1399
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:06,000
Okay, Roblox, this is yet another case of taking action, but like, what?

1400
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:12,000
Is nine really old enough to be the minimum age to chat with randoms?

1401
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,000
What are you doing about the adults that are talking to the nine-year-olds?

1402
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:20,000
That's the concern. I don't care if a bunch of six-year-olds are talking to each other.

1403
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,000
That ain't the issue, buddy.

1404
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,000
Roblox throws me off, man.

1405
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:34,000
There's this situation. There's the like incredible amount of effectively IP theft that happens on the platform

1406
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:43,000
that just seems to go completely unchecked. Like, something about it I don't like.

1407
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:48,000
I haven't actually used it enough to speak to it properly, but from the outside,

1408
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,000
it seems like not a place that I'm happy about.

1409
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,000
Got a couple people in float plain chat saying Law by Mike is a legit lawyer,

1410
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,000
more so than a YouTuber, so okay, that's good to know.

1411
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,000
And then there was another one that I wanted to...

1412
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:10,000
Yeah, this is pretty funny. DrainX in float plain chat says, if you're in a fight against Chris Hansen,

1413
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:15,000
you might not be the good guy.

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So good work, Colton. Wait a second. When did we hire this guy back again?

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Did they actually go and get this shot just for the sponsor spot? Good gravy, anyway.

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Uh, cool.

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All right, Luke, do you want to pick one?

1465
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Sure. Let's see what we got here.

1466
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:58,000
Congress may force NVIDIA to prioritize U.S. AI GPU customers.

1467
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:02,000
The U.S. Senate has added an amendment to a major defense bill

1468
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:05,000
that may force NVIDIA and AMD to prioritize U.S. customers

1469
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,000
of their advanced GPUs over foreign buyers.

1470
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:14,000
If the amendment sticks, NVIDIA and AMD could not apply for a GPU export license

1471
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:19,000
so long as United States entities are waiting and unable to acquire those same chips.

1472
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:26,000
Okay, so basically until Meta and Twitter have as many,

1473
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:32,000
sorry, XAI, excuse me, have as many GPUs as they could possibly want, also Microsoft,

1474
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:37,000
nobody else can have literally any in terms of like how these companies would have to

1475
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,000
allocate their production.

1476
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:47,000
Apparently it also applies to China-specific models like the H20.

1477
01:45:47,000 --> 01:46:03,000
It's very interesting how the free market has become not very free market at all.

1478
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:08,000
It's kind of remarkable how fast it happened, hey?

1479
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:11,000
It's like we're just going to take a stake in Intel.

1480
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:16,000
We're going to say, yeah, you can't ship products offshore,

1481
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:20,000
even though they were actually, most of them produced offshore.

1482
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:28,000
Made offshore. Yeah, you can't ship those products off American shores until America's shores are full of all the GPUs.

1483
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:36,000
In response, NVIDIA tweeted that selling the H20 has no impact on our ability to supply other NVIDIA products

1484
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:41,000
and they compared the amendment to the Biden administration's now rescinded AI diffusion rule,

1485
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:45,000
which NVIDIA says was based on doomer science fiction.

1486
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:49,000
To be clear, I think there's...

1487
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:52,000
NVIDIA officially saying doomer is hilarious.

1488
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:55,000
I think we have to admit that really quick.

1489
01:46:55,000 --> 01:47:02,000
I mean, this is the same company that literally called their software GF Experience.

1490
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:07,000
That's fair. Nothing surprises me when it comes to NVIDIA.

1491
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:11,000
They clearly have...

1492
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:16,000
Look, I realize this is the pot calling the kettle black,

1493
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:21,000
but they clearly have never outgrown their College Bro sense of humor.

1494
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:25,000
Let's be real. Yeah, for sure neither did we, but still.

1495
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:29,000
Yeah, I'm owning it. I'm owning it.

1496
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:35,000
I would admit it 69 times and I would say nice every time.

1497
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:39,000
Okay? Yeah.

1498
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:46,000
Discussion here. We don't actually have a discussion question in the dock, but I gotta say, man, this is...

1499
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:50,000
It's tough. It's another thing that in my opinion seems to just be, honestly,

1500
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:57,000
the real effect of this is the dramatic promotion of GPU development

1501
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:02,000
and just general compute development and manufacturing and research

1502
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:07,000
that's going to be done within China. All of these things are...

1503
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:11,000
We might be better off for the next extremely short period of time

1504
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:15,000
and we will be significantly, deeply worse off in the future

1505
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:19,000
if you wanted to have, you know, better control of this technology,

1506
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:23,000
being basically the only company that anyone goes to for this stuff

1507
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:28,000
would probably be the way to do it. And that's how things were for quite a long time

1508
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:33,000
and you are repeatedly telling China and all of your Chinese customers

1509
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,000
that they're going to have to find a domestic solution

1510
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:41,000
and they're going to need to invest very significantly in a domestic solution

1511
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:47,000
in order to stay competitive. And if you don't think they're going to do so, you're just stupid.

1512
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:56,000
That was how you really feel, Luke. Hey, in other breaking news, this was just posted in chat by David Kane.

1513
01:48:56,000 --> 01:49:03,000
Google was just hit with a 3.45 billion EU antitrust fine over their ad tech practices

1514
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:07,000
and this is in the same week that a US judge said,

1515
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:12,000
yeah, you guys are a monopoly, but also, you know what? Forget it.

1516
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:17,000
You're not really going to have to do anything about it. You can keep Chrome and you can keep Android

1517
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:24,000
and we're not going to do anything to break you up because like AI seems pretty important and stuff.

1518
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:31,000
So Google is getting some super mixed messages here, but wow.

1519
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:38,000
Oh, in other news, hold on. Trump calls the EU fine unfair and threatens retaliation.

1520
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:42,000
I feel like you could just kind of put that under any article.

1521
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:47,000
Anyway, Google plans to appeal. You could probably put that under any article about Google

1522
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:53,000
and the EU warns of stronger remedies if Google fails to comply.

1523
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:59,000
Oh yeah, good luck everybody. So on the one hand, Google...

1524
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,000
The next war is an economic one.

1525
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:08,000
Yeah, the next war is realizing that you're already in the information war

1526
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:13,000
and the economic war, not to mention the various other more traditional

1527
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:20,000
but now proxy wars and all the various other types of wars that are ongoing.

1528
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:26,000
It is moon pies. What a time to be alive, man.

1529
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:33,000
Oh man, how do we miss this?

1530
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:40,000
Apparently Ura is suing other smart ring manufacturers?

1531
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:46,000
Yeah, that doesn't really... I thought they also got like a defense contract or something crazy.

1532
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:50,000
Yeah, did they? Let me see.

1533
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:58,000
Sorry guys, this is very much just like people in Floatplane dumping topics

1534
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:03,000
into the chat and us looking at them there. We have done absolutely no prep on these whatsoever.

1535
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:07,000
This is old apparently. Oh hey, you know what we have done some prep on?

1536
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:12,000
You want to talk about Valve's new VR hardware right on the eve of the arrival

1537
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:16,000
of your new VR headset that you spent over a thousand US dollars on?

1538
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:19,000
Is that something that you'd like to talk about, Luke?

1539
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:23,000
Not really. Why don't we talk about it anyway?

1540
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:27,000
I mean, I'm still very excited about my big screen beyond. Has it arrived yet?

1541
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:33,000
Yes, but it arrived the day that I left, so I never even got to see it.

1542
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:41,000
Nice. I've actually been using mine a bit lately and it's as great as I represented to you.

1543
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:46,000
In fact, it's better because I got my fixed one back and it is very much actually fixed.

1544
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:51,000
So I'm not having tracking issues with the ones and I'm super stoked.

1545
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:54,000
It looks so good.

1546
01:51:54,000 --> 01:52:01,000
And Valve has a new one. Valve has applied for a trademark on the term Steam Frame

1547
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:06,000
and between the content of the filings and some heavy-duty data mining by Brad Lynch,

1548
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:14,000
aka sadly it's Bradley on Twitter, it looks like new VR hardware might soon be officially announced by Valve.

1549
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:21,000
Data mining of the latest Steam VR beta has revealed that Valve is appearing to be working on a rebranding

1550
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:29,000
of Steam VR overlays to frames and Brad Lynch also speculates that the official name of the rumored

1551
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:36,000
Deckard headset will be the Steam Frame with the major selling point being its Spatial Gaming Capabilities.

1552
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:44,000
Lynch also noted that the Roy VR controllers are no longer marked as prototypes in the Steam VR drivers

1553
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:54,000
and that drivers are now finished for a Steam Link VR USB dongle using Wi-Fi 6e slash 6 gigahertz.

1554
01:52:54,000 --> 01:53:01,000
So what this probably looks like based on that every rumor I've seen about Deckard

1555
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:06,000
indicates that it's going to be inside out tracking with onboard processing.

1556
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:13,000
What this seems to add up to is an inside out with built-in compute VR headset more akin to what we've seen

1557
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:21,000
from the MetaQuest lineup or Apple Vision Pro lineup, but if the 6 gigahertz dongle is anything to go by

1558
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:29,000
with the capability of wirelessly linking to your PC for high-fidelity PC gaming.

1559
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:34,000
What remains to be seen is what the resolution Valve is going to be able to push is going to be

1560
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:45,000
because I'm not aware of a wireless interface that can reliably and consistently match a wired interface

1561
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:53,000
for displays yet, and if anything even the fastest display links these days are not enough

1562
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:59,000
for what I was hoping would be the future of high-fidelity PC VR.

1563
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:07,000
I have kind of out of the side of my eyes been sort of watching the rumors around Deckard

1564
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:14,000
and kind of just hoping and hoping and hoping that maybe it's not the whole story

1565
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:18,000
because I really wanted a second gen or I guess third gen.

1566
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:27,000
I wanted another generation of Lighthouse for the third-party ecosystem of VR headsets that has sprung up

1567
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:36,000
around SteamVR and SteamVR 2.0, but it looks like maybe that's just going to be dead?

1568
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:43,000
I don't know. We'll have to see. The rumors seem pretty strong, but it is technically still rumor mill.

1569
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:50,000
Yeah, it does seem like the evidence is really stacking up that Deckard is going to be a standalone headset

1570
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:57,000
and that this whole ecosystem of outside-in tracking is just going to be kind of stuck where it is today with

1571
01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:03,000
what is it, 90 refreshes per second for the Lighthouses, I think?

1572
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:08,000
That sounds right. I don't know.

1573
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:13,000
I think they're 90 hertz. VR base station, blah, blah, blah.

1574
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:18,000
Well, the base stations themselves are not. How often do they refresh you guys?

1575
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:24,000
Someone's got to know. Lighthouse tracking 2.0 with alternating brainwarp.

1576
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:29,000
75 slash 90 hertz, 150 slash 180 with alternating eye brainwarp rendering.

1577
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:32,000
Now, to be clear, that's not the only data input.

1578
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:37,000
There's also built-in accelerometer slash gyro in the controllers themselves,

1579
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:45,000
and so the Lighthouses are, from my understanding, in order to make sure that they don't drift off course,

1580
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:54,000
but still, I really hoped that large-scale outside-in would continue to be a thing.

1581
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:58,000
I do understand why it's not a thing, because who has the space for it?

1582
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:01,000
Who's going to go and wire 12 volt power into their ceilings

1583
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:05,000
so that they can have a stealthy install of a bunch of base stations?

1584
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:08,000
Who's going to get four of them so that they never have any occlusion,

1585
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:14,000
even when they have an extremely large play area? Basically, me and only me, and so fine. I get it.

1586
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:17,000
But hopefully Valve has taken that.

1587
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:22,000
I mean, they've clearly taken their time, and hopefully they've cooked up something absolutely fire,

1588
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:29,000
and I'm going to absolutely love the frame or Deckard or whatever they ultimately end up calling it.

1589
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:34,000
Either way, Luke, I don't think you're going to be disappointed with your big screen beyond, because

1590
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:43,000
No, I'm excited. If there is any onboard compute in Deckard, then there's absolutely no way that it's going to be light, period.

1591
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:48,000
I mean, Apple, for all their billions of dollars of R&D,

1592
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:52,000
it's typically not all of which went into the Vision Pro, but some of it did,

1593
01:56:52,000 --> 01:57:00,000
couldn't figure out how to make an on-device compute VR headset, not freaking heavy,

1594
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:05,000
so I don't think Valve is going to crack that nut just right now.

1595
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:11,000
Gay Coons. Yeah, I'm also just like, I don't know, you can't always time everything perfectly,

1596
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:15,000
and even if I could, I feel like I still would have gone with the big screen beyond.

1597
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:22,000
Yeah. It's very readable. It's a product that I'm happy to support, and honestly, I'm just really excited to get it, so I don't know.

1598
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:25,000
Gay Coons says, what's the current state of using VR for productivity?

1599
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:28,000
I got to say, I never got into it.

1600
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:36,000
I tried it when I did my Apple Vision Pro review, and there were things about it that were compelling,

1601
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:42,000
but wearing something on my face for such an extended period of time for the workday,

1602
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:47,000
especially working in office where I frequently interact with other fellow humans,

1603
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:51,000
it's just not feasible. It's not viable for me.

1604
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:54,000
I still know people, not even just person.

1605
01:57:54,000 --> 01:58:03,000
I still know people that use it for what was kind of probably the most logical use case, I think,

1606
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:08,000
for the Apple Vision Pro, which was like work while traveling,

1607
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:13,000
and they still seem to find a lot of success from it, which is cool.

1608
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:17,000
And yet, I'm basically back to traveling now.

1609
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:22,000
I've been traveling a fair bit, and I have seen exactly zero Vision Pros on the road,

1610
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,000
so that's clearly a niche use case.

1611
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:30,000
Compared to when it first came out, I would love to see the numbers for this.

1612
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:35,000
What percentage? Because Apple has, and no questions asked, is it 14-day or 30-day?

1613
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:40,000
I can't remember. But Apple has a no-questions-asked return policy, which, for electronics these days...

1614
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:43,000
I heard it was insane, by the way. Yeah.

1615
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:48,000
What percentage of Vision Pros that were purchased have been returned?

1616
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:53,000
Because they were flipping everywhere for two weeks.

1617
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:55,000
And then...

1618
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:02,000
Radio silence. Gone. Wiped off the face of the earth.

1619
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:06,000
You know how practically every single pole is corrupted in some way?

1620
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:10,000
Yeah. It would be cool to have an actual real pole of like,

1621
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:16,000
hey, did you buy one, and if you bought it, do you still use it in any capacity at all?

1622
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:20,000
Yeah. Apple Vision Dust Collector.

1623
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:23,000
Yeah. Big time.

1624
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:30,000
All right. Do we have any other headline topics?

1625
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:34,000
Oh, crap. I screwed it up again. Sammy's gonna kill me.

1626
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:38,000
I haven't done the Floatplane announcement. I was supposed to do it before sponsors.

1627
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:42,000
Frickin', okay. Look, Sammy, if you want it right before the sponsors,

1628
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:47,000
then why don't you put it right before the sponsors?

1629
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:53,000
It's separated by like six topics. That's on me. They keep overwriting it and have to add it back in manually.

1630
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:59,000
I'll put it down there in the future. After intense competition, and almost getting scammed multiple times,

1631
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:08,000
the finale of Scrapyard Wars 10 is ready to be released for early access on Floatplane alongside the extras today.

1632
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:12,000
I have a thing here that says Link Hoffman to provide to Dan during show.

1633
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:18,000
Do we have it yet? No, don't do the Floatplane announcement just yet.

1634
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:20,000
Oh.

1635
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:27,000
Okay. We will let you know later when it goes live later today.

1636
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:31,000
All right. Why don't we give a little more information on the thing that I was talking about earlier,

1637
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:34,000
where Google dodged the harsh antitrust ruling.

1638
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:42,000
The same judge who last August ruled that Google broke US competition laws has effectively decided not to do very much about it.

1639
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:49,000
Judge Amit Mita called Google an overbearing illegal monopoly back then,

1640
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:54,000
but now says that the emergence of generative AI has changed the landscape.

1641
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:58,000
The ruling states that Google must share access to user-side data,

1642
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:01,000
so things like search index and user interaction data,

1643
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:05,000
with qualified competitors but does not have to share advertising data.

1644
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:08,000
Google doesn't have to divest of Chrome or Android.

1645
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:13,000
Google can continue to pay Apple and Mozilla to place Google search in Safari and Firefox respectively.

1646
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:21,000
Oh, really? Earlier this year, Mozilla's CEO warned that cutting Google's search subsidy could ultimately put Firefox out of business.

1647
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:28,000
This ruling also requires Google to stop entering into exclusive deals that make Google the default search on mobile devices

1648
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:31,000
and to submit to six years of regulatory oversight.

1649
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:34,000
The DOJ is expected to appeal this ruling.

1650
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:39,000
So basically what we've learned is that once again in America,

1651
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:42,000
you can do basically whatever it takes to get on top,

1652
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:50,000
and the only thing that you will ever have to do as penance for that is

1653
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:54,000
say you're sorry, maybe have a little bit of oversight,

1654
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:57,000
and maybe pay a token fine.

1655
02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:01,000
Good job. You can always become too big to fail.

1656
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:07,000
That is always an option. Yep, yep, do whatever it takes to become so big

1657
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:12,000
that it would cause the failure of other things if you were punished for your ill-gotten gains.

1658
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:15,000
Yeah. Nipolas Cage says, that's it.

1659
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:20,000
I'm calling shenanigans. Shenanigans, shenanigans!

1660
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:25,000
Hey, you wanted to talk about how Silksong crashed all the stores?

1661
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:29,000
Yeah, so did it actually crash Steam?

1662
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:34,000
I think it was just slow. Okay, I'm even surprised at that to be honest.

1663
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:37,000
People couldn't check out. Is it a jug or not? Yeah.

1664
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:40,000
Like the payment system failed. Dude, it's...

1665
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:43,000
The highly anticipated sequel to Hollow Knight, Silksong,

1666
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:49,000
is already setting records in spite of causing major hiccups for virtually all of its launch platforms.

1667
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:53,000
Silksong has already recorded more than 100,000 concurrent players on Steam,

1668
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:57,000
in spite of heavy traffic crashing the game's Steam page for several hours.

1669
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:00,000
Wow. That's nuts.

1670
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:05,000
The first Hollow Knight's peak concurrent player count was the first Hollow Knight?

1671
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:08,000
Yeah, first Hollow Knight. It was 72,916.

1672
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:13,000
IGN reported also running into trouble when trying to buy the game on the Nintendo e-store,

1673
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:17,000
PlayStation Store, and Xbox.

1674
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:20,000
Silksong is also a day one Game Pass title,

1675
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:25,000
but Game Pass subscribers reported trouble downloading the title on the Xbox app and consoles.

1676
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:30,000
Wow. That's actually kind of nuts.

1677
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,000
Yeah, no, I saw this in the doc,

1678
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:36,000
and while it's interesting that it took all those stores down,

1679
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:41,000
I also just think it's cool that there's a game that people are really excited about coming out

1680
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:44,000
because that doesn't happen that often lately,

1681
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:52,000
and with Battlefield 6 sounding very positive so far in its pre-release work and Silksong coming out,

1682
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:56,000
I wonder what is the Steam ratings for Silksong right now?

1683
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:59,000
Overwhelmingly positive. That's pretty good.

1684
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:02,000
Yeah, I'm not too surprised, but...

1685
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:05,000
They definitely took their time.

1686
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:10,000
I'm shocked that given it was the most wishlisted game on the platform,

1687
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:17,000
if I recall correctly on Steam, that they went with 20 bucks for their price.

1688
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:20,000
Because you can always discount it to 20 bucks later,

1689
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:24,000
but it seems like they've just gone the, hey, yeah, it's 20 bucks.

1690
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,000
You know, we might discount it at some point,

1691
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:30,000
but we're just going to go the rate gamers are going to pay,

1692
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:33,000
and here you go.

1693
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:36,000
You got to respect it. You got to respect it.

1694
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:40,000
I can't say that I would have had the discipline to do the same thing.

1695
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:44,000
Luke, if you had the most wishlisted game on Steam,

1696
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:49,000
would you go 20 bucks?

1697
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:55,000
Honestly, I think it depends a lot on the team that I have,

1698
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:59,000
and if I'm the team making Silksong, I think so, yeah.

1699
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:06,000
As far as my understanding goes, they're pretty small. They're already incredibly ballin' from the original Hollow Knight.

1700
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:10,000
I think you know that this price tag is probably not going to piss people off too much.

1701
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:16,000
I don't even think 24.99 or 29.99 would have made people too upset.

1702
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:21,000
No. 20 bucks is, dude, 20 bucks.

1703
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:24,000
That's like two coffees these days.

1704
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:32,000
Seriously. What's kind of interesting to me is that you said it's overwhelmingly positive on your end?

1705
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:35,000
Yeah. It's just very positive on mine.

1706
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:41,000
Really? I mean, I looked earlier, so I haven't looked in a couple of hours.

1707
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:46,000
Interesting. Oh yeah, I see very positive now too.

1708
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:58,000
Interesting. I'm wondering if this has crashed into, like it was so hyped that even if it's absolutely fantastic,

1709
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:02,000
I wonder if people's expectations were just unfathomably high.

1710
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:08,000
It's rare that I've seen this much hype for a game like ever, to be honest.

1711
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:11,000
I mean, if it's crashing every single store that it's on,

1712
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:15,000
you can imagine the amount of different people that are jumping in.

1713
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:20,000
Yeah. It has a higher concurrent player count than the original ever had already.

1714
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:24,000
And it's so hyped, you might be getting people who just frankly aren't that into Metroidvania,

1715
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:34,000
is playing this game and going, I don't get it. Which I have to admit, I tried twice to get into Hollow Knight.

1716
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:37,000
Twice I tried, twice I failed.

1717
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:44,000
I think I have like three or four hours in it, and I just kind of got bored and didn't keep playing.

1718
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:47,000
And yeah, Metroidvanias aren't my kind of game.

1719
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:50,000
I never really got into Hollow Knight either.

1720
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:54,000
And I haven't been like overhyped about Silksong.

1721
02:06:54,000 --> 02:07:03,000
I might check it out. It seems like it's pretty well positioned price-wise, so it's pretty likely that I'll check it out at some point.

1722
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:11,000
But like, yeah, I don't know. It's crazy that it's been out for as little time as it has been, and it has 24,000 reviews already.

1723
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:15,000
Like, my God.

1724
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:23,000
So honestly, I think this is very likely realistically more on the overwhelmingly positive side of things.

1725
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:28,000
But it's just being reviewed, like you said, by a ton of people that probably aren't actually super into the game.

1726
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:36,000
Just heard the hype bought in, and then maybe don't like the genre necessarily more than the game itself.

1727
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:41,000
There's that quote from the Helldivers developers that I've just always really, really liked,

1728
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:45,000
which is, a game made for everyone is a game made for no one.

1729
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:52,000
And when you hit this level of popularity, some of the negative reviews might be just because it was a game that wasn't made for you.

1730
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:55,000
Okay, this is cool. Check this out.

1731
02:07:55,000 --> 02:08:05,000
What's up? You can actually see the rating in every language because of that new filtering feature.

1732
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:09,000
So, English is now very positive.

1733
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,000
I believe was overwhelmingly positive earlier today.

1734
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:19,000
That's what I saw. Chinese, not that into it.

1735
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:26,000
11,000 reviews, so that is the second biggest language market for this game.

1736
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:30,000
Oh my God, so the 24,000 reviews is only in English.

1737
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:34,000
There's so many more than that. Yeah, 60,000.

1738
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:42,000
The Latin world, flip and loves it, is part of that.

1739
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:49,000
A lot of these, I know that Brazil in particular is heavily tariffed,

1740
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:54,000
and computers tend to not be as high performance for the average gamer,

1741
02:08:54,000 --> 02:09:02,000
is part of that just having a brand new game that is super, super hype that runs great on your machine.

1742
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:06,000
Do you think there's just a little bit of excitement about that, potentially?

1743
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:10,000
That might be part of it. I'm just guessing.

1744
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:14,000
Why do the Turks love it?

1745
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:19,000
The Poles, they love it. The Poles, they love Silsong, they just love it.

1746
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:24,000
The Koreans, they're kind of positive along with the French and the Germans.

1747
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:30,000
The Italians are very positive. Ukrainians, yeah, we're pretty positive on this too.

1748
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:37,000
Apparently the, I lost the comment, but apparently the Chinese language translation was super botched on launch.

1749
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:44,000
I don't know if that means they won't ever fix it, but...

1750
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:54,000
Yeah, I can't find the comment, but apparently that was the thing.

1751
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:57,000
Apparently it's very cheap in Mexico.

1752
02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:03,000
So they probably did some very focused localized pricing.

1753
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:08,000
I wanted to go check out what the breakdown was for tape to tape,

1754
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:15,000
but it turns out that they do not have enough reviews to trigger a language specific review score.

1755
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:21,000
There's all languages, and your languages, and yeah.

1756
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:27,000
Wait, they're different though. I know, I'm not quite sure what that means.

1757
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:32,000
That's kind of weird. Yeah. Interesting.

1758
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:37,000
Anywho.

1759
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:44,000
Moving on, it took 15 years, but Instagram is finally available for iPad.

1760
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:52,000
And this, this was the best they could do.

1761
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:55,000
Holy actual f***.

1762
02:10:55,000 --> 02:11:00,000
That's all I have to say.

1763
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:04,000
I can't, no, I can say more.

1764
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:10,000
Look at all, look at all this blit, you're a photos app.

1765
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:14,000
Supposedly. What is all of this blit space?

1766
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:17,000
What the heck?

1767
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:20,000
What are you even doing?

1768
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:25,000
Just don't even bother then. Why'd they do it in landscape as well?

1769
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:32,000
Well, because it's an iPad, you got to be able to landscape, but like, oh my God.

1770
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:35,000
This is the best you could do.

1771
02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:38,000
This is very odd.

1772
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:41,000
I don't really understand. Parallelogram says, what's wrong with blank space?

1773
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:45,000
It made Taylor Swift millions.

1774
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:53,000
Thank you Floatplane Chat. I love that you guys are there for me to make me feel better about my jokes.

1775
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:56,000
Is that a song? No. Oh, blank space.

1776
02:11:56,000 --> 02:12:01,000
Yes. Okay. Um, okay, this is something.

1777
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:04,000
Robot vacuums level up. Literally.

1778
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:09,000
Yuffie has created a robot vacuum that goes up the stairs, sort of.

1779
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:13,000
That's definitely the brand I would want that from.

1780
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:15,000
Here we go. That's a joke.

1781
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:21,000
Yeah, I know, right?

1782
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:28,000
Yuffie shows off the new Mars Walker is a shell that allows compatible robot

1783
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:32,000
vacuums to dock themselves and get carried up flights of stairs.

1784
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:37,000
What? The only vacuum right now that will be compatible is the Omni S2

1785
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:42,000
scheduled to launch in January, 2026 for $1,600.

1786
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:45,000
The Mars Walker attachment has no price yet, but is an add-on.

1787
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:48,000
It also doesn't clean the stairs. It just goes up them.

1788
02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:49,000
Yeah.

1789
02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:53,000
I mean, I, sure.

1790
02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:59,000
That's another one that I really just don't think I have that much to say about.

1791
02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:02,000
Wait, hold on.

1792
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:07,000
The look on your face kind of says it all, doesn't it?

1793
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:10,000
No, I'm just a little bit confused by the writing because like it says,

1794
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:13,000
the only vacuum compatible is the Omni S2 scheduled to launch in January,

1795
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:18,000
2026 for $1,600. Then it says, for this price point, is it even worth buying a robot vacuum

1796
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:21,000
at this point? Or is it better to hire weekly cleaners?

1797
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:24,000
Okay. Are there cheaper vacuums? I don't think there is.

1798
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:30,000
Oh yeah, there's way cheaper vacuums, but this is, that's the only one that's going to be compatible with the Mars Walker.

1799
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:33,000
Yeah, but you could just buy two of them. You could just buy one for your upper floor.

1800
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:36,000
That's what I was going to say. You might literally be better off just. Oh, 100%.

1801
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:42,000
Some Roborock thing is like between $300,000 and $1,000.

1802
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:45,000
So you would literally just be better off. Yeah.

1803
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:49,000
Pancratz is in the chat. He's like, my first car was significantly cheaper than that robot vacuum.

1804
02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:53,000
Yeah. Yeah. And the Mars Walker is an accessory.

1805
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:59,000
So presumably that accessory is not free on top of the $1,600.

1806
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:03,000
I mean, I got to imagine that with how, okay, I'll say this,

1807
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:08,000
with how much money robot vacuum manufacturers seem to have to throw around for sponsorships.

1808
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:11,000
Dude. Clearly people are buying them.

1809
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:14,000
They're also just all over every trade show ever.

1810
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:19,000
There's something to be said about what the heck is going on there.

1811
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:24,000
Dude, I can't believe how many pool robot companies there are.

1812
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:29,000
Right? Yeah, we saw another one at IFA, but that was actually, that was nuts.

1813
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:34,000
There's a joke about how we should do like a top five pool robots short as a joke.

1814
02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:39,000
There wasn't enough of them, but there are definitely some.

1815
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:45,000
And again, same thing. They seem to have ample budgets for sponsorships.

1816
02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:50,000
So presumably people are buying these things.

1817
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:54,000
It's not that they don't work. Like I'm not saying they're like dumb or whatever.

1818
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:57,000
They're just, they're really expensive.

1819
02:14:57,000 --> 02:15:02,000
And there's places in the world that are, it's like more common to have a pool.

1820
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:07,000
But yeah, the robotic self is very expensive.

1821
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:10,000
It's interesting. Clearly high margin.

1822
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:15,000
I'd say that much. Dolby has jumped on the AI bandwagon.

1823
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:23,000
Dolby has announced some of the new features coming in Dolby Vision 2, the successor to its popular Dolby Vision HDR format.

1824
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:30,000
The original Dolby Vision was meant to give creators the ability to fine tune how TVs present content in HDR.

1825
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:37,000
And it really was noticeably better than HDR 10, which was its primary competitor at the time.

1826
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:48,000
Dolby Vision allows you to include metadata that tells your device scene by scene how to fine tune the image that it is outputting.

1827
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:54,000
HDR 10 did not. You were stuck sort of within a fixed band.

1828
02:15:54,000 --> 02:16:00,000
The new format seems to be trying to strike a balance between artistic intent and solving common viewer complaints.

1829
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:11,000
So content intelligence apparently adds new AI capabilities to make the image crystal clear by improving clarity in any viewing environment without compromising intent.

1830
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:17,000
Fixing things like content appearing too dark in less optimal environments.

1831
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:20,000
Okay.

1832
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:35,000
And then authentic motion is supposed to be the world's first creative driven motion control tool to make scenes feel more authentically cinematic but without unwanted judder on a shot by shot basis.

1833
02:16:35,000 --> 02:16:51,000
Okay. In this case, Dolby claims to have fixed the soap opera effect that is commonly caused by motion smoothing by allowing filmmakers scene by scene control over how the feature is leveraged.

1834
02:16:51,000 --> 02:17:08,000
Interesting. There are definitely cases where judder or even just 24 FPS just low frame rate has been very distracting to me in films that otherwise are just beautiful and amazing and perfect in every way.

1835
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:12,000
Like some of the mountain shots in Lord of the Rings for instance.

1836
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:18,000
Yes. Where it's just like here's some mountain peaks and they're like across the screen.

1837
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:21,000
It's like, yo, that's just distracting.

1838
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:26,000
I think that honestly the Lord of the Rings mountain scenes is like the most classic example of that problem.

1839
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:34,000
I don't mind the authentic motion part if it's giving the filmmaker the tool because I trust the filmmaker with this tool.

1840
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:43,000
I don't trust TV manufacturers and I don't trust AI and that's where content intelligence is sort of bugging me.

1841
02:17:43,000 --> 02:17:47,000
Like I get that everyone is- Is it actually AI though?

1842
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:52,000
Is it like one of the problems we have with AI is like what kind?

1843
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:55,000
Yeah. What are we talking about? Yeah, what are we talking about here?

1844
02:17:55,000 --> 02:18:01,000
If it's certain types of machine learning it might be completely fine and they might be putting it in the-

1845
02:18:01,000 --> 02:18:14,000
If this is just an auto calibration tool right where it's just using an onboard light sensor and it's just kind of like fine tuning the gamma curve or whatever then I mean sure.

1846
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:19,000
But then like are you just calling it AI because everything has to be AI now or are you actually-

1847
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:24,000
Yeah, like actually, honestly. Generate of anything because I don't want that.

1848
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:43,000
I'm at EFA right now which is like, I don't know, it's not quite but some people brand it as like Europe's CES and man the AI branding is everywhere and genuinely often has nothing to do with anything.

1849
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:52,000
I think we've seen it at least a couple times where the AI branding is for features that like are definitely not AI based.

1850
02:18:52,000 --> 02:19:07,000
Like I would actually bet money that they're not and in other cases it's like okay this is a very old like you know machine learning type of approach that they've rebranded as you know smart AI or whatever.

1851
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:14,000
There's also examples where I mean this is classic but you don't even want it.

1852
02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:17,000
Oh well yeah sure. Like it's just worse.

1853
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:24,000
Like EFA seems to have a lot of appliances which is not super normal for me at trade shows at least.

1854
02:19:24,000 --> 02:19:28,000
Like there's an entire hall of like washing machines and-

1855
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:30,000
Oh are they AI though?

1856
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:37,000
They're like all AI based and in a lot of ways it's like just stupid and I don't want it.

1857
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:43,000
And I was ranting about how like I want the dumbest fridge you can give me.

1858
02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:50,000
Like I don't want my fridge to like tell me what groceries are missing because you just know that's for sure data harvesting.

1859
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:57,000
And even if it wasn't data harvesting how could it possibly know how much sour cream is in the tub?

1860
02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:00,000
It doesn't know. I mean that's a good argument right there.

1861
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,000
It can't know anything useful.

1862
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:06,000
Maybe it like watches how many times you take it out and like-

1863
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:09,000
Like a tool? Maybe it has weight sensors in the shelves I don't know.

1864
02:20:09,000 --> 02:20:18,000
Dude a tool that gives me 30% of the information that I need is not a useful tool.

1865
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:25,000
Like I wouldn't mind having a live camera feed in my fridge that I can like log into like a security camera.

1866
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:29,000
I could see that being useful if I just want to know like oh crap did I-

1867
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:32,000
Did I get a second jug of milk last time I was shopping?

1868
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:36,000
Because if I didn't then I should get like- Because we generally keep two jugs of milk in our house.

1869
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:40,000
We have one that's in like the front so that the kids can like get it.

1870
02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:44,000
And then we'll usually have the backup one because that one will run out at some point.

1871
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:48,000
And so it's like do we have a backup jug of milk right now? Like yeah sure yeah fine useful.

1872
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:53,000
But like trying to like generate a shopping list for me dude.

1873
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:59,000
We are decades away from that being useful at all.

1874
02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:02,000
Being functional enough that it could actually do anything.

1875
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:07,000
I wonder what your input on this is. So we found a fridge I don't know I genuinely don't remember who made it.

1876
02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:10,000
I think it might have been Samsung but-

1877
02:21:10,000 --> 02:21:13,000
Oh hold on hold that thought hold that thought people are upset people are upset.

1878
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:16,000
FanboyNZ says not bags of milk.

1879
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:20,000
Timbit says jugs? Question mark question mark question mark brother.

1880
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:24,000
I've been getting my milk from jugs since I was first born.

1881
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:34,000
Some of that was latency some of that was I think I got that pretty quick.

1882
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:40,000
It's jugs on the west coast. Milk in a bag is this weird like eastern Canada thing.

1883
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:45,000
I did I went over there once and I stayed with a family for an exchange and I was like-

1884
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:49,000
This just seems like a jug of milk with extra steps.

1885
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:53,000
Are we seriously all on board with this? Anyway sorry sorry carry on.

1886
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:58,000
So I think it was Samsung but I generally don't remember who and if it's not Samsung my bad.

1887
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:07,000
But somebody here has a fridge that you can speak to and the only command that I noticed that it had was-

1888
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:11,000
I was trying to jailbreak some of the AI systems while we were here.

1889
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:18,000
There's like an AC that you can talk to and ask it to like lower and up the temperature in the room

1890
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:21,000
when I was trying to get it to output like buffing recipes and stuff.

1891
02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:24,000
But I have so far failed I have not given up.

1892
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:29,000
But there's yeah there's a fridge that you can you can ask it to open.

1893
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:32,000
Okay. Verbally and it will open the doors for you.

1894
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:35,000
Okay is that actually faster than opening it?

1895
02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:38,000
I mean if you're gonna get anything out of it- It's actually like kind of slow.

1896
02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:41,000
If you're gonna get anything out of it you have to be standing there anyway.

1897
02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:47,000
Yeah the thing that I thought was interesting is like I could maybe imagine a situation

1898
02:22:47,000 --> 02:22:51,000
where I want to voice command the door to close.

1899
02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:56,000
Yeah. But I can't really imagine a situation where I want to voice command the door to open.

1900
02:22:56,000 --> 02:23:04,000
Yeah. So I tried to while it only advertised saying open but I tried to while I was standing there voice command it to close.

1901
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:08,000
And it just didn't.

1902
02:23:08,000 --> 02:23:15,000
Okay. So there was a booth attendant there and I was like hey so like is there a plan to support closing in the future?

1903
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:18,000
Yeah. I was like oh no.

1904
02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:23,000
For sure no. I was like why? He's like oh child safety.

1905
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:26,000
But it's a fridge. And my thought was like- Couldn't they just push it open?

1906
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:34,000
Like it doesn't lock right? Okay so bashing the kid with the door as it swings open is not a child safety issue.

1907
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:38,000
But hitting them with the door as it closes is a child safety issue.

1908
02:23:38,000 --> 02:23:42,000
And he just straight up was like yeah.

1909
02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:50,000
I don't know dude. This is kind of how I imagine the conversations went at like Porsche headquarters.

1910
02:23:50,000 --> 02:24:00,000
Like I only figured out fairly recently that it's their choice that I can't type on my keyboard while my car is not in park.

1911
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:03,000
Or it's not in park only while it's completely not in motion.

1912
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:10,000
So like my passenger is not allowed to key in a destination for me unless I am stopped.

1913
02:24:10,000 --> 02:24:21,000
And voice control is utterly useless for navigation. It just doesn't work unless you happen to live in magical fairy land where all of your streets happen to have names that are easily understood by a machine.

1914
02:24:21,000 --> 02:24:24,000
And it's like it's their decision.

1915
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:31,000
And the amount of extra distraction that is caused by issuing a voice command multiple times.

1916
02:24:31,000 --> 02:24:39,000
Or like having to verify that it is actually sending you to the wrong place instead of absolute no man's land Narnia somewhere.

1917
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:46,000
Is so much more than if I could press three characters and click the first auto complete like you can in a Tesla.

1918
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:50,000
Like you can in other Volkswagen group vehicles.

1919
02:24:50,000 --> 02:25:01,000
Like I just like the kind of absolute broken moon logic that you encounter with product designers sometimes is just so frustrating to me.

1920
02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:05,000
And it's one of those things where it's like I totally get it.

1921
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:08,000
Some people might actually disagree with me on this point.

1922
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:12,000
And that's totally fine. But that is not the manufacturer's job.

1923
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:19,000
The manufacturer's job is to get the out of my way and let me use the product that I paid a considerable sum of money for.

1924
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:22,000
That's the manufacturer's job payment processors.

1925
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:33,000
The other thing I would say too is like it's kind of funky to me because they have supported features in the car based on weight in the passenger seat.

1926
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:37,000
For a super long time because there's the whole airbag thing.

1927
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:43,000
Right. So they could just allow you to type on the screen if there's a passenger in the seat.

1928
02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:47,000
Yep. That would like actually be very easy for them to do.

1929
02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:57,000
Or better yet they could just piss off and while I'm while I'm like you know pulling out of my driveway I could go to instead of having to go.

1930
02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:02,000
Slam the brakes and type and then go.

1931
02:26:05,000 --> 02:26:10,000
Or I'm assuming you might be able to circumvent it by just being on your phone while you're driving which is the best idea.

1932
02:26:10,000 --> 02:26:13,000
Yes you can. You 100% can. Don't ask me how I know.

1933
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:17,000
I guarantee you that people do that.

1934
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:21,000
And now even more so guarantee that people do that.

1935
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:24,000
And that's not better. Just worse.

1936
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:28,000
So much worse. Just get out of my way and let me type a few characters.

1937
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:31,000
Also I'm not trying to like dog on Porsche right now.

1938
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:36,000
They're having all kinds of trouble. But they were like so proud.

1939
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:51,000
So Yvonne got a Makani V earlier and they were like so proud at both of the dealerships we went to to look at various used ones because we were trying to get a deal of like how much more responsive the interface is.

1940
02:26:51,000 --> 02:27:00,000
I'm like bro yes it's better than what's in my take-hand but like it's still worse than a Tesla from like five years ago.

1941
02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:04,000
What are you guys even doing? Like come on man.

1942
02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:07,000
They're like oh yeah it's so responsive now you're gonna love it.

1943
02:27:07,000 --> 02:27:11,000
I'm like dude I have a smartphone. Don't you have a smartphone?

1944
02:27:11,000 --> 02:27:15,000
So you know what a touchscreen is supposed to feel like right?

1945
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:19,000
This ain't it. What trouble?

1946
02:27:19,000 --> 02:27:36,000
Financial trouble. Basically the entire world is moving on to Chinese EVs and accept the places where they are tariffed out of competitiveness and even that is just a matter of time.

1947
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:55,000
Like I would be surprised if one of Canada's responses to the US tariff trade war situation wouldn't be to say oh so you want to completely f**k up the integrated North American automotive supply chain?

1948
02:27:55,000 --> 02:28:00,000
Okay f**k you too. We're gonna just remove our tariffs on Chinese EVs.

1949
02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:09,000
See you later. That would be super destructive to us too but it's a super destruction that's already happening so alright.

1950
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:14,000
Yeah we're already getting wrecked in that way so I don't know how much it would necessarily change to be honest.

1951
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:20,000
This is one of those things where it's like forethought doesn't seem to be a super strong suit of...

1952
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:24,000
This is just like the NVIDIA GPU thing. It's yeah it's very short-sighted.

1953
02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:28,000
Yeah. Yeah Regness says I support that idea.

1954
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:39,000
I think we've got two of our premiers already that have gone on record publicly saying we should just drop the tariffs then on Chinese EVs because I think we have the same tariffs as the US.

1955
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:42,000
100% tariffs on Chinese EVs.

1956
02:28:47,000 --> 02:28:51,000
Yeah good luck everybody. What else we got for this week?

1957
02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:56,000
The Lenovo Legion Go 2 Electric Boogaloo.

1958
02:28:56,000 --> 02:29:00,000
Lenovo has revealed its next handheld gaming device the Legion Go 2.

1959
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:09,000
The same 8.8 inch size but it is now OLED with lower resolution 1920x1200 instead of 2560x1600 and 100...

1960
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:13,000
Oh that's fine honestly at that size 1920x1200 is lots.

1961
02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:17,000
It also apparently has a 144Hz refresh rate with support for variable refresh rate.

1962
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:20,000
That's sick a VRR OLED is that a first?

1963
02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:25,000
In a handheld? Does anyone have VRR OLED yet?

1964
02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:33,000
I don't know. Guys hit me up if there's a VRR OLED because there's Switch OLED but it doesn't support VRR.

1965
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:38,000
There's Steam Deck OLED my understanding is it does not support VRR.

1966
02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:45,000
My understanding is that that was part of the reason that ASUS has given for not doing OLED on any of their handhelds.

1967
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:49,000
We're talking handheld consoles. Yeah handheld guys, handheld.

1968
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:52,000
Well people are saying phones are handhelds which is...

1969
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:55,000
Okay I'm talking about not a phone.

1970
02:29:55,000 --> 02:29:58,000
The category naming is hard okay come on.

1971
02:30:02,000 --> 02:30:05,000
Yeah I don't think...

1972
02:30:05,000 --> 02:30:09,000
I don't think so. None that I'm aware of.

1973
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:13,000
Madi CH said how about security with those EVs?

1974
02:30:13,000 --> 02:30:17,000
It's a complicated question because I understand what you're saying

1975
02:30:17,000 --> 02:30:23,000
at the same time we have like Tesla very obviously abusing the cameras on their cars

1976
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:27,000
so it's like who do you want taking your driving data in your cameras?

1977
02:30:27,000 --> 02:30:30,000
Yeah they're getting super punished for it though for sure.

1978
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:33,000
That's like definitely happening so...

1979
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:37,000
Okay. So it's like you're definitely...

1980
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:40,000
This is why I really like my dumb car

1981
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:43,000
and I hope to keep dumb cars

1982
02:30:43,000 --> 02:30:46,000
because like you don't need that you can go away.

1983
02:30:46,000 --> 02:30:49,000
Yeah but then that means you're going gas pretty much.

1984
02:30:49,000 --> 02:30:53,000
Yeah the thing is if you want to be credibly seen as the good guy

1985
02:30:53,000 --> 02:30:56,000
instead of the other guy you have to behave like one.

1986
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:59,000
So... Yeah.

1987
02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:03,000
Yeah good job everybody. Anyway back to the Legion Go 2.

1988
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:09,000
It uses AMD's Ryzen Z2 and Z2 Extreme APUs with Radeon 890M graphics

1989
02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:13,000
32 gigs of LPDDR5X 8000 2 terabytes of storage

1990
02:31:13,000 --> 02:31:17,000
a whopping 74 watt hour battery

1991
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:21,000
and will continue to have removable controllers similar to Nintendo Switch

1992
02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:25,000
with two USB 4 ports so you can simultaneously charge

1993
02:31:25,000 --> 02:31:30,000
and hook up to like an eGPU or something as well as a micro SD card slot.

1994
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:33,000
It is expected to launch around the same time as the Xbox,

1995
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:38,000
X, ROG, Ally, X or whatever that thing is called in October.

1996
02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:47,000
The one with the base Z2 chip will launch for 1100 US dollars

1997
02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:54,000
with the Extreme chip launching for 1349.

1998
02:31:58,000 --> 02:32:04,000
That's a lot. To put that in perspective the Z2 chip looks like it is going to suck

1999
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:11,000
sweaty donkey balls. So for you to get like the new faster one the Z2 Extreme

2000
02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:16,000
you will be spending like actual desktop like with a monitor

2001
02:32:16,000 --> 02:32:18,000
and some nice peripherals money.

2002
02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:25,000
Okay. That's right. Our discussion question from Mr. Elijah Horner is

2003
02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:29,000
the handheld market is booming with so many companies now making second

2004
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:35,000
or third or fourth revisions. How many how many into it is Aya Neo or GPD at this point?

2005
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:41,000
Why is the Steam Deck 2 taking so long? Well, Elijah, young man that you are.

2006
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:46,000
This is the thing about Valve. Yeah, lack of experience is I think the answer on this one.

2007
02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:53,000
Let me familiarize you with ValveTime.

2008
02:32:53,000 --> 02:33:00,000
ValveTime, October of 1997.

2009
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:04,000
Actual Time, September of 1998.

2010
02:33:04,000 --> 02:33:07,000
ValveTime, four days.

2011
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:11,000
Actual Time, two months and six days.

2012
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:14,000
ValveTime, shortly.

2013
02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:17,000
Actual Time, six months.

2014
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:22,000
ValveTime, 20 minutes.

2015
02:33:22,000 --> 02:33:25,000
Actual Time, 40 minutes.

2016
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:32,000
ValveTime, soon.

2017
02:33:32,000 --> 02:33:35,000
Real Time, canceled after 10 years.

2018
02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:41,000
Just be happy if you ever get a Steam Deck 2.

2019
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:50,000
And I kind of suspect we will at this point, but I honestly wouldn't be

2020
02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:53,000
surprised if it's going to be three more years.

2021
02:33:53,000 --> 02:34:00,000
Yeah, I do. We've been waiting for SteamOS to just have an installer for just like any computer

2022
02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:04,000
literally since before they even launched the Steam Deck.

2023
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:07,000
This is just the Valve way and you know what?

2024
02:34:07,000 --> 02:34:10,000
When they execute on it, it'll probably be great

2025
02:34:10,000 --> 02:34:13,000
and they'll get to it when they get to it, damn it.

2026
02:34:13,000 --> 02:34:16,000
And you'll like it.

2027
02:34:16,000 --> 02:34:19,000
Okay, oh, oh, we got another one for this week.

2028
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:23,000
Oh, this is fun. OpenAI has confirmed it reads your chats.

2029
02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:27,000
Last week, we discussed a recent OpenAI blog post

2030
02:34:27,000 --> 02:34:30,000
that announced ChatGPT's new parental controls feature.

2031
02:34:30,000 --> 02:34:35,000
Futurism noted that the post seemed to subtly admit

2032
02:34:35,000 --> 02:34:40,000
that ChatGPT scans your conversations and may refer them to law enforcement.

2033
02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:44,000
Okay.

2034
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:51,000
Some of the response online has argued that directing police to individuals in

2035
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:54,000
mental crisis could in some cases do more harm than good.

2036
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:59,000
This past June, OpenAI claimed a court order to retain data for a New York Times

2037
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:03,000
lawsuit went against the privacy commitments it had made with users

2038
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:08,000
and yet this seems to conflict with their tacit admission that they scan your

2039
02:35:08,000 --> 02:35:11,000
conversations and may refer them to law enforcement.

2040
02:35:11,000 --> 02:35:14,000
So OpenAI has some explaining to do

2041
02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:17,000
and most mainstream users are going to completely ignore this

2042
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:22,000
and continue to pour absolutely everything about themselves into ChatGPT.

2043
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:28,000
Once again, good luck everybody.

2044
02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:32,000
Hey, are we ever going to get in all good news when, show Luke?

2045
02:35:32,000 --> 02:35:35,000
Is it ever going to happen? I don't think so.

2046
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:40,000
I think we might actually be able to really, really force one if we want to

2047
02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:47,000
and it might be worth doing. But I'm going to yet again, I can't share my screen.

2048
02:35:47,000 --> 02:35:51,000
But I can't recommend this video enough. I recommended it before.

2049
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:57,000
Linus knows the one I'm going to say. But there's a Wendell video that's getting a little bit older at this point.

2050
02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,000
Aren't we all?

2051
02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:04,000
Sad. It's about a month old.

2052
02:36:04,000 --> 02:36:09,000
It's called AI and You Against the Machine guide so you can own big AI.

2053
02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:17,000
Go watch that. It's awesome. You can run these models locally and then OpenAI can't read your stuff.

2054
02:36:17,000 --> 02:36:21,000
This is the way. So I know it's expensive.

2055
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:25,000
Now might not be the time, but I think you should be informed and know what's going on.

2056
02:36:25,000 --> 02:36:30,000
Even if that just makes it so that if you're in conversation with someone who could,

2057
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:35,000
they might be able to get that happening. Whether that's a boss at your work or I don't know,

2058
02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:41,000
maybe someone at your school could be interesting to be informed of that conversation

2059
02:36:41,000 --> 02:36:44,000
and potentially be able to drive some change.

2060
02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:47,000
So check it out.

2061
02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:53,000
Hey Dan, how close are we to the finale?

2062
02:36:53,000 --> 02:36:58,000
Have you gotten an update? Let's check Project Combs.

2063
02:36:58,000 --> 02:37:02,000
Nice. What do we have? Mark is watching it now.

2064
02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:05,000
Alright. Two minutes ago. So I think it's in.

2065
02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:10,000
Final QC. I think it's in the middle of being processed.

2066
02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:13,000
Let me check on the internet. Dude.

2067
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:18,000
Luke, have you seen any drafts of part four, the finale?

2068
02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:21,000
No. Nope. I watched it today.

2069
02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:25,000
Nobody's shared me early drafts on any of them. I've just been watching them on full-plane as they come out.

2070
02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:28,000
It's an absolute banger.

2071
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:31,000
That post. Scrapyard Wars X.

2072
02:37:31,000 --> 02:37:36,000
Is the clarification of the thing included?

2073
02:37:36,000 --> 02:37:42,000
I don't think we will be able to discuss that without...

2074
02:37:42,000 --> 02:37:45,000
Oh! Oh! Of...

2075
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:48,000
Yes. Yes. Okay, cool.

2076
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:51,000
Yeah. That's it. Yeah.

2077
02:37:51,000 --> 02:37:59,240
Good enough. I think they actually did a pretty good job of laying out the various things and various

2078
02:37:59,240 --> 02:38:03,000
outcomes and all the kinds of things that were themed.

2079
02:38:03,000 --> 02:38:10,000
I don't want any spoilers, but apparently Sammy wants us, without spoiling the results,

2080
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:15,240
talk about how we felt about this year's Scrapyard Wars, Luke to answer.

2081
02:38:15,240 --> 02:38:19,000
I'm just reading the notes from the Floatplane announcement. Luke to answer me specifically?

2082
02:38:19,000 --> 02:38:25,440
Yeah. I don't know what he's getting at though. It's hard for me to kind of guide you towards the right things that you're supposed to talk

2083
02:38:25,440 --> 02:38:31,800
about here. Yeah, that's tough. I don't really know what to say here, just because I don't want to ruin anything.

2084
02:38:31,800 --> 02:38:34,840
Yeah, maybe you don't have to say anything then.

2085
02:38:34,840 --> 02:38:40,800
If you just feel like, you know, anything you say Canon will be used against you in

2086
02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:50,120
a court of spoilers, then just don't do it. I mean, okay, I guess I can talk about the episodes that are already out.

2087
02:38:50,120 --> 02:38:57,600
I talked before anybody saw any episode about how like insane that week was for me.

2088
02:38:57,600 --> 02:39:03,600
And I don't think this is like my best Scrapyard Wars showing as an individual.

2089
02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:09,320
People on my team did well and I think that was cool.

2090
02:39:09,320 --> 02:39:16,960
I think my contributions were less than I would have hoped that they were going to be

2091
02:39:16,960 --> 02:39:20,200
even watching it back. I've had some people comment, be like, oh, you did great.

2092
02:39:20,200 --> 02:39:28,560
And then I go watch it. I'm like, no, there is definitely things that I could have and should have done better.

2093
02:39:28,560 --> 02:39:33,520
I did notice. I did notice some cheating from you guys in the last episode.

2094
02:39:33,520 --> 02:39:36,520
Excuse me? We didn't cheat on anything. What are you talking about?

2095
02:39:36,520 --> 02:39:39,520
I noticed some cheating. I noticed some cheating. Go ahead.

2096
02:39:39,520 --> 02:39:44,840
Tell me what it was. There was a particular rule that you had to go out in pairs.

2097
02:39:45,480 --> 02:39:49,120
You could ask for an exception. Okay.

2098
02:39:49,120 --> 02:39:52,920
Yeah. So we did. What is even the point?

2099
02:39:52,920 --> 02:39:56,840
I mean, we got exceptions, too, but what is even the point of rules? What are you talking about?

2100
02:39:56,840 --> 02:39:59,840
What are you even talking about? We got exceptions, too. We got exceptions, too.

2101
02:39:59,840 --> 02:40:03,840
If you got an obsession, then it is all good.

2102
02:40:03,840 --> 02:40:10,160
Dude, we followed the rules. I didn't want any false accusations like with Scrapyard Wars 9.

2103
02:40:10,160 --> 02:40:13,160
So we followed the rules. That was not a false accusation. That was not a false accusation.

2104
02:40:13,160 --> 02:40:16,160
That was BS. That was not a false accusation. That was BS.

2105
02:40:16,160 --> 02:40:19,160
You absolutely cheated. I didn't. Garbage.

2106
02:40:19,160 --> 02:40:26,680
We followed the rules to a T. We followed the rules.

2107
02:40:26,680 --> 02:40:30,380
Respected them even. Respected them.

2108
02:40:30,380 --> 02:40:39,760
Because we had a person on our team who was, yeah, our driving situation was interesting.

2109
02:40:39,760 --> 02:40:42,960
I'll say that much. I mean, yeah.

2110
02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:45,960
You know what? Look. I like cars.

2111
02:40:45,960 --> 02:40:48,960
I like cars. I like turtles. You know?

2112
02:40:48,960 --> 02:41:03,960
Yeah. Yeah. We might just have to save our conversation for after you guys.

2113
02:41:03,960 --> 02:41:06,960
We'll hold it. We'll stop there. We'll hold it.

2114
02:41:06,960 --> 02:41:11,960
Yeah. Yeah.

2115
02:41:11,960 --> 02:41:17,460
You know what? I'm going to have to do the Floatplane announcement now, and then we'll just have to post it shortly

2116
02:41:17,460 --> 02:41:24,720
after when show ends then. Okay, Dan? Hey, I'm not the people who will be crying.

2117
02:41:24,720 --> 02:41:33,240
They're not here anyway. Okay. So early access for Scrapyard Wars 10, part four, we'll go up tonight as soon as we are

2118
02:41:33,240 --> 02:41:39,640
able to. And as an added bonus on September 9th, David is going to be doing director's commentary

2119
02:41:39,640 --> 02:41:46,120
live with some of the participants and with our lead editor for each episode exclusively

2120
02:41:46,120 --> 02:41:52,120
on Floatplane. If you want to know a little bit more about two time participants, Sammy, her meet the

2121
02:41:52,120 --> 02:41:56,360
team video just went up talking about her work at Labs and Creator Warehouse.

2122
02:41:56,360 --> 02:41:59,760
So you can go check that out on Floatplane.

2123
02:41:59,760 --> 02:42:05,880
We also have lots of extras, including one that I'm glad went up because there was some

2124
02:42:05,880 --> 02:42:11,280
discussion on the subreddit that Linus is the kind of guy who just like shows up on

2125
02:42:11,280 --> 02:42:16,840
set and you know, kind of like a home makeover show, you know, holds a paintbrush for two

2126
02:42:16,840 --> 02:42:21,280
seconds and then, you know, goes away and sits in his trailer or whatever.

2127
02:42:21,280 --> 02:42:27,760
Fortunately, in the extras for part three, that accusation was put to rest because I

2128
02:42:27,760 --> 02:42:34,520
can clearly be seen, oh, sorry, I can clearly be seen painting the entire room from start

2129
02:42:34,520 --> 02:42:40,760
to finish, working on it the entire time because no, I actually do do work here, you butt heads.

2130
02:42:40,760 --> 02:42:44,880
Not even in the extras, in just the normal footage, there was enough to show that you

2131
02:42:44,880 --> 02:42:48,520
were doing all of that in my opinion. That's a crazy accusation.

2132
02:42:48,520 --> 02:42:52,080
I don't know, man. It's just, I didn't probably ever. That's nuts.

2133
02:42:52,080 --> 02:42:57,000
Like I watched both because I think the extras have been fantastic, but just like, what are

2134
02:42:57,040 --> 02:43:00,640
you even talking about? There's so much footage of you painting.

2135
02:43:00,640 --> 02:43:06,000
My takeaway was like, oh, interesting, he spent that entire day painting, just watching

2136
02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:12,560
like the normal episode. Yep. That was basically all I did for an entire day, which makes sense and then added a lot

2137
02:43:12,560 --> 02:43:18,160
to the room. I think that was a good move, but my immediate takeaway was, yeah, he just painted for a

2138
02:43:18,160 --> 02:43:25,040
long time. Yeah. Anyway, if you want to know, if you want to be the first to know and have insider knowledge

2139
02:43:25,080 --> 02:43:29,480
on this year's Scrapyard Wars, join Floatplane at LMG.GG slash Floatplane.

2140
02:43:29,480 --> 02:43:38,480
And the final episode of this series will come out soon on YouTube as well.

2141
02:43:38,480 --> 02:43:41,480
All right, Dan, time for some merch messages. Sure.

2142
02:43:41,480 --> 02:43:44,480
We're already there. That sounds great. Let's see.

2143
02:43:44,480 --> 02:43:49,960
I push this button. I'm going to get my phone.

2144
02:43:49,960 --> 02:43:54,000
Hamnetic says, see sweet prerogative. I'll damn well spend the day painting if I want to.

2145
02:43:54,280 --> 02:43:59,960
Look, I just, I think Luke and I are both the kind of person who, no matter how meaningless

2146
02:43:59,960 --> 02:44:08,120
the competition is, we will do whatever it takes, no matter how small the prize is.

2147
02:44:08,120 --> 02:44:12,760
We will move heaven and earth to win for glory.

2148
02:44:12,760 --> 02:44:20,200
Like it's, I don't know, like I wouldn't think of myself as like a mean loser or like

2149
02:44:20,200 --> 02:44:27,480
a sore winner necessarily. Like I'll do, I loved, I love me some trash talk, but I'd like to think it's, you know,

2150
02:44:27,480 --> 02:44:34,680
it's always in, it's always in good fun. But I just, I love, I love the spirit of competition.

2151
02:44:34,680 --> 02:44:43,800
And yeah, Luke's like exactly the same way. So you know, if it involved just doing some kind of horrible task, have no doubt that

2152
02:44:43,800 --> 02:44:47,040
either of us would do it to win a worthless trophy.

2153
02:44:47,040 --> 02:44:50,040
Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much.

2154
02:44:50,720 --> 02:44:54,840
Yeah, Dan, too, do anything for the, for the L.

2155
02:44:55,720 --> 02:45:03,360
It like almost, it almost, honestly, I don't know, it's probably almost parabolic, where

2156
02:45:03,360 --> 02:45:05,800
like if it is, if it is the most meaningless thing.

2157
02:45:06,480 --> 02:45:15,720
Oh yeah, same, same, same, same, same. If it's like, oh, you can win like, you know, a $10 or a $15 flash drive.

2158
02:45:15,920 --> 02:45:20,320
I feel like I would try less than if it was like a plastic, fake, 3D printed trophy.

2159
02:45:20,880 --> 02:45:25,320
I think I would probably, you know, kill live on camera.

2160
02:45:25,600 --> 02:45:28,800
If the prize was just a firm handshake from Linus.

2161
02:45:30,480 --> 02:45:34,360
Amariah says. $1,000 and like your own private island.

2162
02:45:35,400 --> 02:45:40,960
It sounds like effort. Amariah says the competition, if it were more serious, it wouldn't even be fun.

2163
02:45:41,160 --> 02:45:44,520
I watch it for the dedication to the lowest possible stakes.

2164
02:45:44,600 --> 02:45:47,400
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

2165
02:45:47,840 --> 02:45:50,600
Dude, but you don't understand how important the trophy is.

2166
02:45:50,960 --> 02:45:54,880
Oh my gosh. I didn't even know there was a trophy to be perfectly honest.

2167
02:45:55,320 --> 02:45:59,640
I didn't know there was going to be a trophy to the end. I thought it was just like a, like a, you win.

2168
02:45:59,720 --> 02:46:04,240
Yay. Next video. Do we have any merch messages, Mr.

2169
02:46:04,240 --> 02:46:08,080
Dan? Yeah, sorry to get distracted. No, no, I'll go. L and the tips.

2170
02:46:08,480 --> 02:46:14,080
I was made the CTO of my organization and nominated as a distinguished engineer.

2171
02:46:14,080 --> 02:46:16,600
I mean, that's not even a weird flex.

2172
02:46:17,120 --> 02:46:19,960
All right. Heck yeah.

2173
02:46:21,000 --> 02:46:28,800
The expert in my field. If Floatplane Labs, et cetera, had DEs, then for what tech?

2174
02:46:28,960 --> 02:46:32,440
What if each of you made a DE? I don't know what. Somewhere.

2175
02:46:32,480 --> 02:46:37,400
I thought it was somewhere. Yeah. What if each of you were made a DE somewhere?

2176
02:46:37,440 --> 02:46:41,760
Like what would you be the distinguished engineer in like the expert in your field?

2177
02:46:44,880 --> 02:46:48,720
I don't know. I'm, I'm an all rounder. I'm, I'm a jack of all trades.

2178
02:46:48,800 --> 02:46:55,880
Um, you know what? There, that's my DE. I'd be the DE in distilling, uh, jargon.

2179
02:46:57,120 --> 02:47:03,280
Like I don't know if there's many people who do that quite like I do.

2180
02:47:03,640 --> 02:47:11,200
I'll, I'll sit. I'll talk to engineers at the actual DEs and absorb just enough of it to

2181
02:47:11,200 --> 02:47:15,280
regurgitate it back and have them go, Oh, Oh yeah.

2182
02:47:15,520 --> 02:47:20,120
Yeah. No, that's probably the, the best way I've heard that explained by someone who

2183
02:47:20,160 --> 02:47:24,320
didn't do an entire post doctorate degree in this. Um, good job.

2184
02:47:24,360 --> 02:47:28,320
And I'll be like, thanks. I have now forgotten all of it.

2185
02:47:28,520 --> 02:47:32,160
So as long as the, as long as the words on the page are right and you say they're

2186
02:47:32,160 --> 02:47:35,200
right, we're good. That's my superpower.

2187
02:47:38,520 --> 02:47:47,120
Man, I don't know if I have an answer for this. Um, so much of what I do these days is just like insert miscellaneous

2188
02:47:47,200 --> 02:47:50,200
management tasks. Um,

2189
02:47:59,440 --> 02:48:05,000
I like to think that I'm good at getting people to kind of like rally behind a

2190
02:48:05,000 --> 02:48:09,920
banner. So like, uh, alignment, I guess motivation.

2191
02:48:10,680 --> 02:48:13,720
Yeah, sure. I'll go with that.

2192
02:48:17,560 --> 02:48:22,120
Okay. Up next, or you're talking to me too. They asked you how to make the rules.

2193
02:48:22,480 --> 02:48:24,240
Troubleshooting. That's mine.

2194
02:48:25,520 --> 02:48:28,640
I like that. Why broke? You know what?

2195
02:48:29,920 --> 02:48:32,480
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2196
02:48:33,880 --> 02:48:36,800
Channel broken. Why broken? Why broke?

2197
02:48:36,960 --> 02:48:41,240
Yeah. So broken. Power broken. Here, fix, do this.

2198
02:48:42,600 --> 02:48:44,120
Throw out buying. Trace broken.

2199
02:48:46,080 --> 02:48:48,440
If only I could figure out why life broken.

2200
02:48:49,960 --> 02:48:52,440
Up next. Hi. That's not happy.

2201
02:48:54,280 --> 02:48:56,520
Hi, LLD. It's like cobblers children, right?

2202
02:48:57,520 --> 02:49:02,640
My shoes are bad. Hi, LLD with many devices that were purchased during the pandemic.

2203
02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:08,080
Now aging out of schools and businesses. What are your thoughts on the future of e-waste in North America?

2204
02:49:08,120 --> 02:49:12,440
What future? It's a, it's a crisis.

2205
02:49:12,440 --> 02:49:17,920
It's an enormous problem and it's exacerbated by a trend towards less

2206
02:49:17,920 --> 02:49:21,840
and less repairable and, and deconstructible, right?

2207
02:49:21,840 --> 02:49:29,320
Like modern, it's like touchscreens. I actually didn't become aware of what an ecological disaster touchscreens were.

2208
02:49:29,320 --> 02:49:32,640
Or sorry, I should say environmental, not necessarily ecology.

2209
02:49:33,640 --> 02:49:37,320
But what an environmental disaster touchscreens were until quite recently

2210
02:49:37,360 --> 02:49:41,840
because the way that they're laminated and fused makes them much more difficult

2211
02:49:41,840 --> 02:49:44,280
to separate into their constituent parts, apparently.

2212
02:49:46,200 --> 02:49:51,760
Yeah, it's a, it's a catastrophe and one that humanity will probably not end

2213
02:49:51,760 --> 02:49:53,760
up having to deal with because we'll be dead.

2214
02:49:59,440 --> 02:50:02,400
What's the weirdest sponsor request you've had to turn down?

2215
02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:08,480
Oh man. What's the weirdest sponsor request you've had to turn down?

2216
02:50:08,480 --> 02:50:14,840
See, I was trying to think like it may be something from D brand, but I basically

2217
02:50:14,880 --> 02:50:21,120
never really say no to them. So yeah, I, you know, I think this is going to be.

2218
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:27,240
We had one that we, we, we like reached out to them to see if they would do it.

2219
02:50:27,320 --> 02:50:33,480
And then they were enthusiastically down and then we decided to not do it.

2220
02:50:33,880 --> 02:50:37,000
Does that count? Do you know what one I'm talking about? No, I don't.

2221
02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:41,440
But I have, I have one Mr. Colton Potter potentially on the line here.

2222
02:50:41,440 --> 02:50:44,080
I'm going to try him. Sure.

2223
02:50:44,920 --> 02:50:49,280
I'm going to DM you the one that I'm talking about. You can decide to say it if you want. Oh, wow.

2224
02:50:49,520 --> 02:50:53,120
Sent to voicemail after only two and a half rings.

2225
02:50:53,120 --> 02:50:55,480
Well, I know where we stand, Mr. Potter.

2226
02:50:57,800 --> 02:51:04,200
I just DM'd it to you. Oh, uh, the, um, if you want to mention it or not.

2227
02:51:04,200 --> 02:51:07,160
Oh yeah, sure. I don't know. Yeah, sure. Go with that. I didn't even remember that.

2228
02:51:07,840 --> 02:51:10,280
I don't remember the context of it. Yeah.

2229
02:51:11,120 --> 02:51:16,920
I don't remember like what sparked it, but way back in the day, can I say the name?

2230
02:51:16,920 --> 02:51:20,080
Is that the, is that the first name? Okay, sure.

2231
02:51:20,400 --> 02:51:24,560
Um, there was, there was some reason why we were thinking about doing something

2232
02:51:25,000 --> 02:51:28,560
and we thought it would be funny if we got it sponsored by the hub.

2233
02:51:28,960 --> 02:51:32,200
Um, and they actually responded and we're like, yeah, we're down.

2234
02:51:32,640 --> 02:51:35,920
Uh, and we didn't really expect that response.

2235
02:51:36,120 --> 02:51:39,600
And then we were like, oh, wait, this is like real. Are we actually doing this?

2236
02:51:40,160 --> 02:51:44,640
And then the decision was no. So we had to be like, um, nevermind.

2237
02:51:44,640 --> 02:51:47,720
Sorry. That's lame as hell.

2238
02:51:47,720 --> 02:51:51,960
Which is kind of like quintessential nerd in that scenario, I think.

2239
02:51:51,960 --> 02:51:55,400
So maybe that makes sense. Hey, do you want to go on a date? Yeah.

2240
02:51:55,800 --> 02:52:00,440
Uh, um, uh, no, you're too pretty by.

2241
02:52:01,440 --> 02:52:06,080
Yeah, basically. So, um, yeah, I don't remember what the deal was.

2242
02:52:06,080 --> 02:52:08,120
That was like, it's not in my inbox.

2243
02:52:09,160 --> 02:52:13,880
No, this is ancient. I think it's like my inbox goes back to the start of the company smart guy.

2244
02:52:14,640 --> 02:52:18,920
No, yeah, for sure. See, I'm not used to that because someone deleted the inbox for Flo Plain.

2245
02:52:19,000 --> 02:52:23,840
Um, I don't know who that was. Yeah, you inbox for Flo Plain.

2246
02:52:24,520 --> 02:52:29,360
Remember we had Flo Plain club emails and then you just like randomly deleted it

2247
02:52:29,360 --> 02:52:32,480
one day, I don't remember why we did that. Oh, right.

2248
02:52:32,480 --> 02:52:38,480
Cause we didn't want to keep paying for them forever. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that we were, we were partially migrated, but not fully

2249
02:52:38,480 --> 02:52:40,160
migrated and you just needed the whole thing.

2250
02:52:41,520 --> 02:52:45,040
That was my bad. We lost like a bunch of history. Yeah, that was my bad.

2251
02:52:45,960 --> 02:52:50,360
It's fine. I mean, it's basically resolved at this point, but, um, I am used to like things

2252
02:52:50,360 --> 02:52:53,480
from that era, just assuming that I don't have them. So yeah, my bad.

2253
02:52:53,480 --> 02:52:58,480
But yeah, this was, I think this was done through Colton and I think any discussions

2254
02:52:58,480 --> 02:53:01,600
with you would have been vocal at that point in time.

2255
02:53:01,800 --> 02:53:06,280
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I can't find any reference to it. That's frigging hilarious though.

2256
02:53:06,600 --> 02:53:10,600
It was, it was either them or someone very like them.

2257
02:53:11,200 --> 02:53:18,040
And I, I really, I don't remember. I wonder if it was like how to hide your stuff that is on the hub video.

2258
02:53:18,680 --> 02:53:21,960
Um, I don't think it was that frame.

2259
02:53:22,480 --> 02:53:26,440
Wouldn't it have been like Channel Super Fun, the dildo racing maybe?

2260
02:53:27,400 --> 02:53:31,720
I think it was a little bit after that, but I, I was going to bring that video up

2261
02:53:31,720 --> 02:53:35,640
because I think it might have been something like kind of inspired by. I really don't remember what it was.

2262
02:53:35,640 --> 02:53:38,400
It's been too long. It's like literally been a decade basically.

2263
02:53:38,680 --> 02:53:42,520
Um, but that was a thing. We, we reached out to them.

2264
02:53:42,520 --> 02:53:47,280
They said sure whoever it was, I think it was them. Um, and then we said no.

2265
02:53:48,600 --> 02:53:52,960
It's amazing how many people are relatively new to the channel and just like have

2266
02:53:52,960 --> 02:53:58,080
no idea what Channel Super Fun is. It's you float playing chats, just like lighting up with the what racing.

2267
02:53:58,640 --> 02:54:01,720
Uh, yeah, that was a video on Channel Super Fun way back in the day.

2268
02:54:02,080 --> 02:54:06,040
Um, I got, I got a text from my daughter that actually reminded me of this is

2269
02:54:06,040 --> 02:54:09,480
totally unrelated to anything, but remember that cool text that I showed you

2270
02:54:09,480 --> 02:54:13,800
from her a little while back where I was like, this is such a proud dad moment.

2271
02:54:13,800 --> 02:54:21,040
Guys, this is so cool. Um, I got, I got a text from her like middle of last month that was I fixed

2272
02:54:21,040 --> 02:54:27,040
the printer all by myself today for the first time. Exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark.

2273
02:54:27,280 --> 02:54:32,800
She goes, a piece of filament was stuck. Um, dude, it was so cool.

2274
02:54:32,800 --> 02:54:37,480
It freaking paid off the, the Christmas present for like the big one for the whole

2275
02:54:37,480 --> 02:54:44,120
family, I want to say two Christmases ago now was a bamboo Labs printer P1S and

2276
02:54:44,120 --> 02:54:50,640
then a few AMS's because the idea that I had in my head was that in particular,

2277
02:54:50,680 --> 02:54:55,960
my daughters, who I recognized immediately, we're going to just use it as a toy

2278
02:54:55,960 --> 02:55:01,840
factory, uh, we're going to eventually run into enough problems that I was

2279
02:55:01,840 --> 02:55:06,240
eventually going to lose patience with fixing it for them to the point where

2280
02:55:06,240 --> 02:55:09,560
they were going to have to start learning how to manage it themselves.

2281
02:55:09,840 --> 02:55:14,320
And they were going to run out of already prefabbed creations that they

2282
02:55:14,320 --> 02:55:17,480
could just print and get to the point where they were going to have to start

2283
02:55:17,480 --> 02:55:29,480
learning to model stuff and it's freaking happening. It took about, yeah, uh, about 20 months, but it's flipping happening.

2284
02:55:29,720 --> 02:55:34,880
My eldest daughter can do some basic 3D printer repair, including taking out

2285
02:55:34,880 --> 02:55:41,560
stuck filament. Um, she can take the full extruder head assembly off of it and replace it.

2286
02:55:42,560 --> 02:55:45,920
Honestly, what's more important about that, in my opinion, is that she was

2287
02:55:46,000 --> 02:55:49,840
really excited and proud about doing so, which means that she will probably

2288
02:55:49,840 --> 02:55:52,960
continue to grow. She got that dopamine hit.

2289
02:55:53,400 --> 02:55:56,760
Yes. She got the hit. That's a very important component.

2290
02:55:56,760 --> 02:55:59,760
Yes. She has learned troubleshooting.

2291
02:55:59,760 --> 02:56:06,240
She achieved something and, and she got the secondary dopamine hit of being

2292
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:09,200
able to use the printer to make something she wanted.

2293
02:56:09,400 --> 02:56:12,800
She's already starting to do a little bit of basic modeling and that's

2294
02:56:12,800 --> 02:56:16,840
influencing my youngest daughter to want to be just like her big sister,

2295
02:56:16,840 --> 02:56:19,960
like they tend to do. And she's trying to do a little bit as well.

2296
02:56:20,240 --> 02:56:23,520
Um, dude, absolutely freaking stoked.

2297
02:56:23,560 --> 02:56:28,000
It freaking happened. Um, Tyler asks, uh, did your son ever decide if he wants to be in moral

2298
02:56:28,000 --> 02:56:33,240
to do videos? Um, actually, yeah, he expressed some interest over the course of the summer

2299
02:56:33,600 --> 02:56:41,880
and he is currently in the first, um, our second draft phase of a Kindle video.

2300
02:56:42,160 --> 02:56:46,760
So I basically told him, look, I don't mind a little bit of light nepotism,

2301
02:56:46,960 --> 02:56:52,560
but the way that it's going to work is if you want to, you know, do anything

2302
02:56:52,560 --> 02:56:57,280
that isn't just as my son, you're going to have to, you're going to have to

2303
02:56:57,280 --> 02:57:06,600
shovel some shit if you know what I mean. And so I basically picked the least glamorous possible assignment, uh,

2304
02:57:06,600 --> 02:57:11,640
which it turns out on the docket was a look at the latest Kindles, including

2305
02:57:11,640 --> 02:57:18,240
the color Kindle, and I went, okay, here's some basic guardrails of, you know,

2306
02:57:18,240 --> 02:57:24,360
sort of where to go for information yourself, um, other publications that

2307
02:57:24,360 --> 02:57:28,000
have covered it, just, you know, to, to learn what their thoughts were, but

2308
02:57:28,000 --> 02:57:32,840
think for yourself, um, customer reviews, filtering out, of course, that, you

2309
02:57:32,840 --> 02:57:37,320
know, inexperienced reviewers slash, uh, people who don't have other devices

2310
02:57:37,320 --> 02:57:42,480
for context slash bought slash paid reviewers, uh, might be muddying the

2311
02:57:42,480 --> 02:57:47,160
waters there. Here's what people might want to know, you know, it's what's good about it.

2312
02:57:47,160 --> 02:57:51,600
What's bad about it. What's complicated about it. Don't forget about price, blah, blah, blah.

2313
02:57:51,600 --> 02:57:54,760
I kind of laid out all these things and I went, okay, dump it all in a doc.

2314
02:57:55,840 --> 02:58:00,520
And again, a little bit of light nepotism, uh, one of our experienced writers will

2315
02:58:00,520 --> 02:58:04,520
look at your first draft with you and actually Ploof said it was not bad.

2316
02:58:04,840 --> 02:58:08,400
I haven't looked at it yet because he went through the first three, four

2317
02:58:08,400 --> 02:58:12,840
paragraphs, sort of showed my son, okay, here's what you need to tweak.

2318
02:58:12,880 --> 02:58:19,640
Here's what's pretty good. He kind of went, yeah, you know, it reads like a 13 year old wrote it, but a

2319
02:58:19,640 --> 02:58:24,760
good 13 year old, um, I sent him back to the kitchen and he's currently working

2320
02:58:24,760 --> 02:58:31,760
on draft two, which will then go into script review with me. So this will be my first time actually seeing the script and I have resolved

2321
02:58:31,760 --> 02:58:36,160
to have absolutely no mercy. If it's something that I would have changed with one of our writers, I'll

2322
02:58:36,160 --> 02:58:41,880
change it. Um, and I basically told him that the most that he gets to do in this, because

2323
02:58:41,880 --> 02:58:45,360
again, he's got to shovel some shit is he gets to host a little bit of it.

2324
02:58:45,800 --> 02:58:50,320
So he might host a segment or two, uh, but he's writing a video for the

2325
02:58:50,320 --> 02:58:54,640
LTT channel and it will either be good enough and we'll actually use it or it

2326
02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:58,280
won't be good enough. And I'll look at his resume again in another year or two.

2327
02:58:59,040 --> 02:59:05,320
It's kind of where we're at on it. Now that's it. We were talking about the dopamine hits and the, and the desire for more

2328
02:59:05,320 --> 02:59:14,000
situation with the repairing of the printer. Um, when he received that feedback from Ploove, um, was he motivated?

2329
02:59:14,000 --> 02:59:17,400
Did he, did he get to it? Did he start working on it? Yeah, he's, he's working on it.

2330
02:59:17,400 --> 02:59:20,320
Positive. I've seen, I've seen him working on it. Nice.

2331
02:59:20,680 --> 02:59:23,560
Yeah. That's exciting.

2332
02:59:25,680 --> 02:59:29,400
I'm hearing good positive things about this video potentially.

2333
02:59:29,720 --> 02:59:35,400
Arriving soon. Oh, while, while that potentially happens, five or six minutes.

2334
02:59:35,400 --> 02:59:39,360
Yeah. Cool. More. Okay. Well, we should try to get through the rest of the merge messages then.

2335
02:59:39,360 --> 02:59:44,600
So we can time it for the end of the show. Yeah. Hello. Short, shorter and shortest, like the pizza warmer.

2336
02:59:44,600 --> 02:59:49,200
What other not stellar videos would you like to completely redo?

2337
02:59:50,040 --> 02:59:53,520
My blackberry review. Well, late for that.

2338
02:59:53,560 --> 02:59:57,520
Yeah. Too bad you sunk them, Luke.

2339
02:59:58,360 --> 03:00:02,680
You know, I miss my blackberry.

2340
03:00:04,240 --> 03:00:04,960
Oh no.

2341
03:00:07,520 --> 03:00:11,440
Man, I don't know. Maybe you guys will be able to tell me what, what are my worst videos?

2342
03:00:11,440 --> 03:00:14,040
Which ones should I redo? Hit me.

2343
03:00:15,880 --> 03:00:18,520
The apology video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2344
03:00:19,640 --> 03:00:22,320
That'd be a pretty good one. Your next one, you'll get right.

2345
03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:29,280
You know what? So I don't think so, Dan.

2346
03:00:29,640 --> 03:00:33,120
I think, I think the next time a major scandal rolls our way.

2347
03:00:33,400 --> 03:00:35,400
Yeah. I'm just going to be like, deal with it.

2348
03:00:36,640 --> 03:00:41,080
Actually based, I would, I would support that. I just think I'm over it at this point.

2349
03:00:41,080 --> 03:00:45,040
Like no ukulele, no nothing. Just like, yeah, okay, whatever.

2350
03:00:45,040 --> 03:00:51,600
By there's been so many attempts to cancel my career that I'm just like,

2351
03:00:51,600 --> 03:00:56,320
I'm over it at this point. Like, look, next time go for the head.

2352
03:00:57,840 --> 03:01:01,280
And if you don't hit it, then give up.

2353
03:01:01,280 --> 03:01:04,880
Go home. I can't remember what the last one was, but I remember I was like out doing stuff

2354
03:01:04,880 --> 03:01:10,000
on the weekend and one of my friends messaged me like, oh my God, this thing is

2355
03:01:10,000 --> 03:01:14,960
happening. And I, if I remember correctly, you and I both were basically just like, yeah,

2356
03:01:14,960 --> 03:01:17,800
we'll, we'll get to it when we're back in office.

2357
03:01:18,360 --> 03:01:19,360
It's fine.

2358
03:01:22,160 --> 03:01:22,880
Whatever.

2359
03:01:25,360 --> 03:01:31,800
Sometimes the internet's going to internet. What else we got? Your worst videos are building PCs.

2360
03:01:31,800 --> 03:01:34,440
You can only do that so many times. Well, then why would you tell me to redo it?

2361
03:01:36,240 --> 03:01:40,680
Remake the first video with no AI. Yeah, I don't know. You guys aren't really giving me much here.

2362
03:01:41,840 --> 03:01:46,000
Survivor Slugcat says one that needs a remake is the Christmas album.

2363
03:01:46,360 --> 03:01:51,640
No, it doesn't. If anything, I think over the last little while we've gotten less musical.

2364
03:01:52,000 --> 03:01:55,080
So no, I don't think that's a very good idea.

2365
03:01:57,600 --> 03:01:58,600
You're saying.

2366
03:02:06,280 --> 03:02:10,160
Dan, is that true for like the. Oh, I thought you were going to continue with another one.

2367
03:02:10,280 --> 03:02:14,960
No. Hi, LMG. I just got a brand new monitor with HDR functionality.

2368
03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:18,640
Nice. Whenever I turn it on, it looks weird. Is that just me?

2369
03:02:18,640 --> 03:02:24,080
Why do people turn on HDR? I love the magnetic cable organization and bottle.

2370
03:02:24,760 --> 03:02:29,840
Ah, OK. Windows HDR can sometimes be a little bit funky.

2371
03:02:29,840 --> 03:02:37,360
I actually encountered it earlier today. Sometimes you turn on HDR in Windows and it's like pretty darn looking like it

2372
03:02:37,360 --> 03:02:43,280
kind of should at the desktop. And then other times you turn it on and it gets like all washed out and horrible looking.

2373
03:02:43,880 --> 03:02:49,120
So what you'll have to do is you'll have to make sure that your display is only

2374
03:02:49,120 --> 03:02:55,160
switched into HDR mode when you're actually playing content that benefits from HDR.

2375
03:02:55,160 --> 03:02:59,280
Because even if your desktop looks like hot poo poo, if you go into a game that

2376
03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:02,880
supports HDR and turn HDR on, it will look outstanding.

2377
03:03:03,160 --> 03:03:06,480
And then just don't use HDR at the desktop, I guess.

2378
03:03:07,480 --> 03:03:10,680
Win B. Yeah. Yeah. Win B.

2379
03:03:10,920 --> 03:03:14,680
Hotkey. Does it hotkey for that?

2380
03:03:14,680 --> 03:03:16,840
Yeah, if I recall correctly. That's sick.

2381
03:03:18,280 --> 03:03:23,160
I'm not going to do it because it might break the computer. OK, I have been given a link.

2382
03:03:23,160 --> 03:03:26,280
Sorry, Win Alt B. OK, carry on.

2383
03:03:26,880 --> 03:03:31,480
I've been given a link to Scarp Airdoors so we can post that when we're done.

2384
03:03:31,480 --> 03:03:34,480
Yeah, when we're done. G'day from StrayLia.

2385
03:03:34,480 --> 03:03:42,040
Luke, the refrigerator, you've often said that life is PVP as a bloke who seems set

2386
03:03:42,040 --> 03:03:48,520
on making the world better. How do you square that with the life is PVP philosophy?

2387
03:03:48,520 --> 03:03:51,520
Any tips? I would say PVE.

2388
03:03:51,920 --> 03:03:57,400
Any tips? I would say probably kill them quickly so they don't suffer.

2389
03:04:01,560 --> 03:04:06,000
I mean, just because it's PVP doesn't mean those other people can't be useful to

2390
03:04:06,000 --> 03:04:09,280
you. You should just kill them all. Yeah.

2391
03:04:09,280 --> 03:04:15,520
Yeah, even like even in a PVP enabled world, you can have people that can work

2392
03:04:15,520 --> 03:04:21,440
with you if you think about I mean, even if you think about just video games,

2393
03:04:21,440 --> 03:04:26,000
right, like if you if you think about one of the longest running ones now,

2394
03:04:26,000 --> 03:04:30,200
Eve online, it's like extremely brutal, extremely PVP enabled.

2395
03:04:30,200 --> 03:04:34,720
You have internal, you'll have like spies that will steal stuff from groups all

2396
03:04:34,720 --> 03:04:38,760
the time, but that doesn't stop people from working together because in order

2397
03:04:38,760 --> 03:04:43,960
to accomplish more, you have to work together and you will find people that

2398
03:04:43,960 --> 03:04:49,480
are generally going to act in a way that benefits you.

2399
03:04:50,240 --> 03:04:54,240
You can argue that effectively every single action like ever made is selfish,

2400
03:04:56,000 --> 03:04:59,880
but there can be selfish action. That's such a cynical viewpoint.

2401
03:04:59,880 --> 03:05:05,360
Yeah, it is. I agree. And I don't think it's realistic, but even in that scenario, there can be

2402
03:05:05,360 --> 03:05:08,080
things that people do that are selfish that benefit you.

2403
03:05:09,600 --> 03:05:17,160
So alignment. Yeah, alignment is very important and definitely attainable.

2404
03:05:17,880 --> 03:05:21,280
And it might not work every time, but like it's definitely attainable.

2405
03:05:21,280 --> 03:05:31,200
And there are people want to be on a team. And there are positive, there are personally positive results sometimes

2406
03:05:31,200 --> 03:05:39,120
that align with making the world a better place. I mean, I'd say a great example would be making a good product that helps

2407
03:05:39,120 --> 03:05:43,760
people fix things faster and more comfortably like, yes, you know,

2408
03:05:43,760 --> 03:05:49,480
this is a PVP world and, you know, it was the creation of our screwdriver

2409
03:05:49,480 --> 03:05:54,680
was capitalistically motivated. Obviously, I don't mind selling half a million of them.

2410
03:05:56,000 --> 03:06:00,520
But that doesn't mean that that has to be mutually exclusive to other

2411
03:06:00,520 --> 03:06:04,560
people finding a benefit from, you know, our team's actions.

2412
03:06:05,000 --> 03:06:09,760
And that doesn't mean that other people on our team can't benefit from,

2413
03:06:09,800 --> 03:06:16,320
you know, the sales of this. Like it's just. I think you can even argue like something like the trust me, bro warranty.

2414
03:06:18,640 --> 03:06:23,400
Like the idea of just somewhat automatically siding with the customers

2415
03:06:23,400 --> 03:06:29,640
and trying to make things good for people is, is honestly, it's so multifaceted.

2416
03:06:29,640 --> 03:06:35,360
It's, it's kind of easier for us. The customer service team can just be like less contentious than they would

2417
03:06:35,360 --> 03:06:38,720
have to be at other companies, which is probably nice. I assume that's nice.

2418
03:06:38,960 --> 03:06:42,840
I know for the full playing customer support, that's nice.

2419
03:06:42,840 --> 03:06:46,080
It just makes the, the approach to a lot of situations easy.

2420
03:06:46,080 --> 03:06:48,520
It's like, oh, you're mad and you want to refund. Okay.

2421
03:06:49,160 --> 03:06:52,920
Yeah. Sounds good. Hopefully you come back later.

2422
03:06:52,960 --> 03:06:56,920
See you. We've actually caught a lot of people very off guard doing that.

2423
03:06:57,440 --> 03:06:59,080
Cause they're like, oh wait, really?

2424
03:07:01,360 --> 03:07:04,680
Yeah. And then, and then sometimes they end up coming back and like messaging us

2425
03:07:04,720 --> 03:07:08,680
about the fact that they came back, which is kind of a funny way to close

2426
03:07:08,680 --> 03:07:18,200
that loop, but the, the idea that something is, is good for, is good for you.

2427
03:07:18,200 --> 03:07:24,520
Therefore it's, it must be bad for others is not good. I think also the idea that something is good for others.

2428
03:07:24,520 --> 03:07:28,040
Therefore it must be bad for you is a bad way of thinking as well.

2429
03:07:28,240 --> 03:07:32,160
Um, like someone else gaining a benefit and you not gaining it can still mean

2430
03:07:32,160 --> 03:07:40,240
that that is a good thing overall. And supporting that, uh, I think if you don't think super short-sighted might

2431
03:07:40,240 --> 03:07:44,240
result in things that are good for you and not necessarily good for them

2432
03:07:44,240 --> 03:07:49,560
happening in the future, because if you set that as like the, like, look, we are

2433
03:07:49,560 --> 03:07:53,720
going to try to do the thing that is right as much as possible as the standard

2434
03:07:53,720 --> 03:07:59,520
that you have, um, that you will ideally overall benefit from that happening.

2435
03:07:59,520 --> 03:08:04,840
I don't know. The whole situation is tough. Um, life is constant PVP.

2436
03:08:04,840 --> 03:08:09,040
I think the main thing that you're in PVP with is companies.

2437
03:08:09,440 --> 03:08:12,480
Um, yes, it happens with each other.

2438
03:08:12,520 --> 03:08:17,440
Like we are, I mean, only one person can marry Yvonne, which is a total bummer

2439
03:08:17,440 --> 03:08:23,200
for everyone, but me, from my perspective. So you were, you were in constant PVP with everyone else.

2440
03:08:23,320 --> 03:08:27,720
Um, yeah. In, in your eyes. Well, not anymore to getting with the Vaughn.

2441
03:08:27,840 --> 03:08:32,080
Yeah. Sure. Now I don't even have to take care of myself. I would still say yes.

2442
03:08:32,160 --> 03:08:37,240
Actually, that's fair. That's fair. There's whatever it's like 50% of marriages and in divorce.

2443
03:08:37,240 --> 03:08:39,480
But a lot of stuff is not zero sum like that.

2444
03:08:40,480 --> 03:08:45,480
Yes. Um, and you know, ideally you end up in a situation where it's not really that way,

2445
03:08:45,480 --> 03:08:48,720
but, um, you also need to keep your guard up.

2446
03:08:48,720 --> 03:08:51,920
Like you can't just like randomly suck as a husband anymore.

2447
03:08:52,200 --> 03:08:56,000
Um, not anymore. You can't just randomly suck as a husband.

2448
03:08:56,040 --> 03:08:58,960
Yeah. That would be huge news for her if I came out like that.

2449
03:09:03,080 --> 03:09:07,960
Oh my God.

2450
03:09:08,000 --> 03:09:13,800
Um, but yeah, I don't know. Anyways, it's, it's the, yeah, the main thing you need to keep your guard on out

2451
03:09:13,800 --> 03:09:16,960
for is, is company stuff.

2452
03:09:17,000 --> 03:09:21,400
Uh, the, the concept, there's no such thing as a free lunch is like super true.

2453
03:09:21,440 --> 03:09:25,480
I need to just be aware of it. Um, yeah.

2454
03:09:25,480 --> 03:09:29,120
If something's free, you're the product and that is very intense.

2455
03:09:29,120 --> 03:09:34,360
I've been talking recently about how, uh, the, like what we're paying for is

2456
03:09:34,360 --> 03:09:37,280
shifting. We're like paying to not have things now.

2457
03:09:37,520 --> 03:09:41,640
You're paying to not have ads. You're paying to not have your data stolen.

2458
03:09:41,640 --> 03:09:47,640
You're paying to not be involved in like really brutal, um, surveillance and,

2459
03:09:47,640 --> 03:09:52,880
and data harvesting schemes. Yeah. You're paying to avoid these problems.

2460
03:09:52,920 --> 03:09:58,200
Yeah. Um, and we're like forced labor in the products and stuff like that.

2461
03:09:58,880 --> 03:10:02,040
Sorry. Or like forced labor in the production of your products.

2462
03:10:02,040 --> 03:10:07,000
Like, like that's an extra, you know, and it's, it's a rather extreme extra

2463
03:10:07,000 --> 03:10:10,040
because that forced labor, who boy, it's real cheap.

2464
03:10:10,120 --> 03:10:13,840
Um, yeah. So it's, it's, it's interesting.

2465
03:10:14,000 --> 03:10:19,320
Um, I think it's also tough because then I, I catch myself with this as well

2466
03:10:19,320 --> 03:10:25,000
sometimes, but like the things I care about, um, or like, you know, I care about a

2467
03:10:25,000 --> 03:10:27,800
lot of things, but the things that I decide to action that I care about.

2468
03:10:28,120 --> 03:10:33,320
Um, it's hard to not try to push other people to like definitely just follow the

2469
03:10:33,320 --> 03:10:36,720
same things that I do and everybody's got their own little wars going on.

2470
03:10:37,200 --> 03:10:43,040
Um, I don't know. Something about recognizing that life is a constant PVP environment.

2471
03:10:43,040 --> 03:10:46,400
It's just also recognizing that people are going through it all the time.

2472
03:10:46,720 --> 03:10:52,240
Um, and it's tough to know what battle somebody is fighting.

2473
03:10:52,520 --> 03:10:56,840
Um, and that doesn't mean, you know, you have to be just incredibly

2474
03:10:56,840 --> 03:10:59,880
lenient with everyone all the time, but I think it's just sometimes

2475
03:10:59,880 --> 03:11:05,640
understanding that they're like everyone all the time is bringing an incredible

2476
03:11:05,640 --> 03:11:08,280
amount of baggage to every single scenario they're ever in.

2477
03:11:09,240 --> 03:11:12,680
You'd never know like why someone reacts to something so intensely.

2478
03:11:12,920 --> 03:11:18,040
And it's probably because of tons of other things going on, um, that you have

2479
03:11:18,040 --> 03:11:24,600
really no way of ever understanding. So just try to not take things too personally, keep your head down and

2480
03:11:24,600 --> 03:11:28,840
understand that basically every company is trying to loot you all the time.

2481
03:11:29,160 --> 03:11:31,960
Um, Hey, what did I just get linked here?

2482
03:11:32,520 --> 03:11:37,000
Sidecar, your personal automotive assistant. Someone just sent this to me in chat.

2483
03:11:37,520 --> 03:11:41,200
Uh, Sid BMW sent this to me.

2484
03:11:41,200 --> 03:11:48,840
Apparently the Taycan is the top car driven by people who use this app.

2485
03:11:48,840 --> 03:11:52,720
What does it do? That's like, that's wild.

2486
03:11:52,720 --> 03:11:55,080
There's so few Taycans on the road.

2487
03:11:57,200 --> 03:12:00,760
Oh, nevermind. I figured it out. It warns you about recalls.

2488
03:12:01,040 --> 03:12:05,720
I've had a few of those. I could see Taycan owners caring about that and it looks like it helps you.

2489
03:12:06,160 --> 03:12:09,280
Uh, it looks like it helps with trip planning, which the Taycan has

2490
03:12:09,280 --> 03:12:12,280
craptastic range. So nevermind. Okay. I figured it out. Okay.

2491
03:12:12,320 --> 03:12:13,920
Uh, Dan, next one. Sure thing.

2492
03:12:15,320 --> 03:12:20,760
Um, when water bottles was a new product, Linus mentioned a known issue with

2493
03:12:20,760 --> 03:12:24,280
the black and gold water bottles that the gold would fade quickly for some users.

2494
03:12:24,480 --> 03:12:27,680
Is that just a factor of the printing method? Uh, yes.

2495
03:12:27,680 --> 03:12:33,520
And we have, um, explored and explored and explored other printing methods and

2496
03:12:33,520 --> 03:12:38,040
have not found a good way for gold paint on the water bottle with the current

2497
03:12:38,040 --> 03:12:42,080
processes and manufacturing that we use to not fade.

2498
03:12:42,080 --> 03:12:47,760
So I think we either removed it from the site or we, uh, just have a disclaimer

2499
03:12:47,760 --> 03:12:51,080
on it now that we don't cover, uh, fading of the gold.

2500
03:12:51,080 --> 03:12:53,200
I can't remember which one it is at this point.

2501
03:12:54,200 --> 03:13:00,320
Uh, I'm going to check. It looks like we do still have it on the site and, uh, disclaimers.

2502
03:13:00,480 --> 03:13:04,280
Gold ink may be more prone to wear and discoloration from skin oils and exposure

2503
03:13:04,280 --> 03:13:08,080
to heat than other colors. Some fading is normal over the lifetime of the product and it is not dishwasher safe.

2504
03:13:08,480 --> 03:13:11,680
So that's what we ultimately went with because people got mad.

2505
03:13:11,680 --> 03:13:16,920
That's right. I remember now people got mad when we took it away. They wanted the option to have a faded gold bottle and we were like,

2506
03:13:18,240 --> 03:13:24,880
okay. Oh, speaking of which, we may have found a coating for the screwdriver shaft.

2507
03:13:28,040 --> 03:13:31,520
Gold. Define. Black. A gold coating? No, the black.

2508
03:13:31,800 --> 03:13:34,640
That would be cool. Oh, that'll like actually survive.

2509
03:13:34,960 --> 03:13:39,880
Well, anything, any coating is not invulnerable, but a lot better, but a lot

2510
03:13:39,880 --> 03:13:43,280
better than the OG. Uh, that's cool. That's pretty exciting.

2511
03:13:43,760 --> 03:13:49,040
So yeah, I think, I think people would be quite interested to see a black shaft

2512
03:13:49,080 --> 03:13:53,280
return. I actually have another merch message about that.

2513
03:13:53,280 --> 03:13:57,040
Oh, do you really? Um, and let me see if I can find it here.

2514
03:13:57,560 --> 03:14:02,560
About black shafts. Hi DLO, line us a couple of weeks ago you mentioned y'all were almost sold

2515
03:14:02,560 --> 03:14:06,360
out of fail shafts. Will more scribe drivers come back once you're out?

2516
03:14:06,520 --> 03:14:15,520
Hopefully black shafts return. Uh, so yeah, it was actually the scribe driver that drove us to, uh, re-explore

2517
03:14:15,600 --> 03:14:20,320
black coatings and look at some of the options, re-look at some of the options

2518
03:14:20,320 --> 03:14:24,680
we looked at previously, but maybe with different partners and then look at some

2519
03:14:24,680 --> 03:14:31,040
new options that had come to light. And, uh, we found one that worked really great on scribe driver.

2520
03:14:31,040 --> 03:14:37,040
And we kind of went, well, if it works on a scribe driver, then it should work on a screwdriver because they're like made of the same thing.

2521
03:14:37,120 --> 03:14:43,720
And so we've been exploring it. We still have not finalized anything with respect to black coatings and whether

2522
03:14:43,720 --> 03:14:50,960
or not that will end up in a product again. Um, but we do have some promising leads as for scribe driver.

2523
03:14:51,000 --> 03:14:55,200
Yeah, we've talked about it and the team wants to keep making them.

2524
03:14:55,200 --> 03:15:00,840
I mean, they continue to sell really well. Like how many scribe drivers did we sell yesterday?

2525
03:15:01,120 --> 03:15:04,760
For instance, here I'm going to, I'm going to check. I'm going to check.

2526
03:15:04,800 --> 03:15:08,320
You guys can be privy, privy to this information.

2527
03:15:08,320 --> 03:15:13,280
Yesterday was just a normal, very normal day on the store.

2528
03:15:13,280 --> 03:15:19,360
Like we didn't have any special promos running or anything like that. So just like a run rate, run rate kind of day.

2529
03:15:19,960 --> 03:15:24,040
And, oh man, the report takes a little while to pull.

2530
03:15:24,760 --> 03:15:28,400
Here we go. Scribe driver. So we moved like 30 scribe drivers yesterday.

2531
03:15:28,440 --> 03:15:32,720
So it like just sells and it's a great value.

2532
03:15:32,720 --> 03:15:37,960
It's a great product. Um, so the team's like, well, yeah, like, you know, this looks great on our,

2533
03:15:38,000 --> 03:15:41,400
you know, quarterly reports and everything. It'd be tremendous if we could keep selling it.

2534
03:15:41,400 --> 03:15:47,360
So I think the plan is to manufacture scribe drivers, uh, even though the

2535
03:15:47,360 --> 03:15:54,200
intention was that we would not even begin to dent the total number of fail

2536
03:15:54,200 --> 03:15:59,440
shafts that we had making this product. I mean, we had a hundred thousand of them and between scribe driver and

2537
03:15:59,440 --> 03:16:06,360
another thing that we have planned that we're going to do a production run of with fail shafts, um, before we probably have to switch that one

2538
03:16:06,360 --> 03:16:11,320
over to fresh manufacturing. Um, we're almost out of them.

2539
03:16:11,320 --> 03:16:17,440
So what, uh, what a success, I think that's really, really cool, uh,

2540
03:16:17,480 --> 03:16:22,120
because it shows that you can take a recycling project and turn it into

2541
03:16:22,120 --> 03:16:25,560
something so profitable that it's worth doing beyond just recycling.

2542
03:16:25,760 --> 03:16:29,320
And, uh, just so you guys know, we're going to

2543
03:16:29,320 --> 03:16:33,920
try to give you guys a heads up when you'll have your last opportunity to

2544
03:16:33,920 --> 03:16:39,560
grab a scribe driver, uh, before they become like not fail shafts.

2545
03:16:39,560 --> 03:16:45,640
Like if you want one that is a piece of LTT failure history, everything you

2546
03:16:45,640 --> 03:16:50,200
order today will be a fail shaft from that manufacturer that boned us.

2547
03:16:50,640 --> 03:16:54,000
Um, but at some point they will switch over.

2548
03:16:54,240 --> 03:17:00,080
So if you want to get a pencil or a pen, we have both mechanical pencils and pens now for a scribe driver.

2549
03:17:00,360 --> 03:17:04,600
Uh, now is a great time to get one and be sure that you will get a fail shaft.

2550
03:17:06,680 --> 03:17:12,360
Hey, three musketeers Linus, after finding to homie podcast, I was wondering,

2551
03:17:12,760 --> 03:17:18,320
are you still using homie at home? If so, what have you been enjoying since installation?

2552
03:17:18,640 --> 03:17:23,280
We'll hear this tomorrow on Spotify. Um, homie is super cool.

2553
03:17:23,680 --> 03:17:29,680
And when I finally fix all my light switches and get everything sort of aligned,

2554
03:17:30,040 --> 03:17:35,160
I may switch over to it, but as it was, we did the install and we did a

2555
03:17:35,160 --> 03:17:40,520
bunch of tests with it. It's like super awesome, but I already had what little I have working,

2556
03:17:40,560 --> 03:17:44,920
working with home assistant. And so I have not switched my home installation.

2557
03:17:45,320 --> 03:17:52,320
However, if, uh, if nothing dramatically changes with my home,

2558
03:17:53,760 --> 03:17:58,120
my home assistant situation, I may just go homie.

2559
03:17:58,400 --> 03:18:03,560
We're also looking at potentially doing a, another house renovation project.

2560
03:18:03,600 --> 03:18:06,480
Um, this is something that is still very early stages.

2561
03:18:06,760 --> 03:18:11,200
And if we were to do something that, you know, is not intended to be administered

2562
03:18:11,200 --> 03:18:15,680
by someone who feels like doing it as a hobby, homie is something that I would

2563
03:18:15,720 --> 03:18:25,720
strongly recommend. Um, it seems like they are, they are pretty serious about making the, uh,

2564
03:18:25,760 --> 03:18:30,440
the experience of bringing together disparate ecosystems actually palatable

2565
03:18:30,440 --> 03:18:33,000
for people who don't want to make it their part-time job.

2566
03:18:37,440 --> 03:18:41,680
LL, Andy, if you play, have you tried the ANO 117 beta?

2567
03:18:42,160 --> 03:18:47,120
If so, what do you think? I didn't know there was one. Um, I'm going to have to try it, man.

2568
03:18:47,120 --> 03:18:52,120
I gotta, I gotta tell you, I have not had practically any time for gaming

2569
03:18:52,120 --> 03:18:59,360
and my queue of stuff I really want to play. Like I haven't touched Clare Obscure yet, like in spite of it being apparently

2570
03:18:59,360 --> 03:19:03,360
like the bestest RPG experience, like ever or something.

2571
03:19:03,480 --> 03:19:08,360
Um, I, yeah, I was going to say, honestly, uh, I don't know if I'm, I don't

2572
03:19:08,360 --> 03:19:11,080
know if honestly either of us should play the beta.

2573
03:19:11,960 --> 03:19:16,680
Yeah. I think I can wait. I think I can wait with the amount of time that we have for games these days.

2574
03:19:16,680 --> 03:19:23,000
I feel like, uh, I would leave versions of previous me to do the beta stuff,

2575
03:19:23,080 --> 03:19:28,440
which is great. And I liked doing that stuff back then, but right now I will, I will wait.

2576
03:19:28,520 --> 03:19:33,120
I think work's been just very excited, crazy lately in no particular order.

2577
03:19:33,160 --> 03:19:37,080
Here's my games that I need to play on my like to do list.

2578
03:19:37,680 --> 03:19:40,840
The outer worlds, which I did put like an hour or two into, but I never really

2579
03:19:40,840 --> 03:19:44,080
like got to get very deep into it.

2580
03:19:44,160 --> 03:19:52,040
Um, Fel Seal Arbiter's Mark, Destroy All Humans, Dragon Quest 11.

2581
03:19:53,040 --> 03:19:55,840
Oh my God. This is so funny. This is so old.

2582
03:19:56,160 --> 03:19:59,440
I have played that Chinese game that's basically Breath of the Wild.

2583
03:20:01,680 --> 03:20:04,000
This was a you recommendation for Genshin.

2584
03:20:06,160 --> 03:20:09,600
Wait, me? Really? Yeah. Cause you were saying, I've never even played Genshin.

2585
03:20:09,600 --> 03:20:12,600
I know, but you were saying that I think it was Jaden.

2586
03:20:12,680 --> 03:20:16,120
You were saying was like really enjoying it back when it like first came out or

2587
03:20:16,120 --> 03:20:21,560
Jonathan, someone from the float playing team. This is like five years ago now.

2588
03:20:21,560 --> 03:20:28,280
So, um, I have played project triangle strategy, uh, play TIE fighter total

2589
03:20:28,280 --> 03:20:32,360
conversion, play rise of the third power, play RFL, play risk of rain two

2590
03:20:32,360 --> 03:20:36,760
with Luke Barrington recommended, uh, play reach the future, Final Fantasy

2591
03:20:36,760 --> 03:20:40,600
Tactics Mod, play that Final Fantasy game for Android, Final Fantasy

2592
03:20:40,600 --> 03:20:46,200
dimensions, um, play eight bit adventures, the forgotten journey and sequel,

2593
03:20:46,200 --> 03:20:49,400
play Octopath Travel. Actually, I played a little bit of Octopath Travel. I did not enjoy it.

2594
03:20:49,400 --> 03:20:57,160
I'm ticking that off. Uh, play the last bell, a base defense game, play Unicorn Overlord, play Astilebra,

2595
03:20:57,160 --> 03:21:01,480
revision, play Journey with Yvonne, try Manor Lords, play Disco Elysium, play

2596
03:21:01,480 --> 03:21:04,840
Paper Mario, the Thousand-Year Door, play Unraveled II with Yvonne. Oh, I finally did that one.

2597
03:21:04,880 --> 03:21:10,560
Okay. That's one. Um, try Warcraft II remake and Warcraft III, play Vellum with Yvonne.

2598
03:21:11,320 --> 03:21:14,920
Play Halls of Torment, play Drova, Dragon Quest HD remake.

2599
03:21:15,520 --> 03:21:20,000
Um, play Claire Obscure.

2600
03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:23,600
Now we're getting into more current, current, try Puck game, play Beyond

2601
03:21:23,600 --> 03:21:27,680
Doll Reason. Um, yeah.

2602
03:21:28,160 --> 03:21:32,640
So that's my, that's my to-do list. And that's not even just like the ones that are in my Steam library, but I

2603
03:21:32,640 --> 03:21:36,160
haven't played yet. Things like, I still haven't like finished Doom Eternal.

2604
03:21:36,160 --> 03:21:43,600
I only benchmark it. Yeah.

2605
03:21:44,000 --> 03:21:47,440
Yeah. Work's been crazy lately, man.

2606
03:21:48,080 --> 03:21:53,120
It's been all right. It's all right to be clear.

2607
03:21:53,120 --> 03:21:58,280
I'm all right, but like, yeah, it has been pretty crazy.

2608
03:21:58,440 --> 03:22:06,080
It's been pretty crazy. The views just deciding to go frickin haywire on us was not, not the best

2609
03:22:06,080 --> 03:22:11,520
timing in the world, I would say. Um, I'm very tired.

2610
03:22:11,520 --> 03:22:13,480
But hey, we're still here.

2611
03:22:14,920 --> 03:22:18,280
Who's Svino in chat? Is that Sven? Yeah. Oh, okay.

2612
03:22:18,720 --> 03:22:21,680
Can't believe you haven't played DQ-11 with DQ-11.

2613
03:22:22,040 --> 03:22:25,680
Oh, Dragon Quest. I've actually never played a Dragon Quest game.

2614
03:22:25,920 --> 03:22:29,080
People play this. I mean, are they like popular, popular?

2615
03:22:29,200 --> 03:22:36,240
I think they're pretty popular. Cause that new, like HD2D remake was like huge or something.

2616
03:22:39,400 --> 03:22:41,440
And let's see, is this one, hello.

2617
03:22:42,400 --> 03:22:46,960
Last one I got for you today. Oh, dang. I tried to reply to the one, hi, Dan, before you got to it.

2618
03:22:47,000 --> 03:22:49,600
Oh, I was going to be like, psych, it's me, Linus.

2619
03:22:51,400 --> 03:22:57,000
Well, I guess it counts as curated. Now, has a long time viewer who was heavily inspired by you to try

2620
03:22:57,000 --> 03:23:03,040
and start creating content as a passion project. What is the most actionable piece of advice you would wish you were

2621
03:23:03,040 --> 03:23:06,320
told early on, much less than three LLD?

2622
03:23:07,400 --> 03:23:11,080
Um, this is a super difficult question. I'm sorry to curate this.

2623
03:23:11,520 --> 03:23:20,440
No, no, that's fine. I mean, I'd say that the advice that I wish I had back then is actually

2624
03:23:20,440 --> 03:23:24,920
really accessible now because the whole content creation as a career

2625
03:23:24,920 --> 03:23:29,040
thing didn't exist when I started on YouTube, at least in the way that

2626
03:23:29,040 --> 03:23:32,080
we think of what content creator means now, obviously creating any

2627
03:23:32,080 --> 03:23:36,560
content makes you a content creator, but like online content creation was

2628
03:23:36,560 --> 03:23:39,320
not a career when I first got started.

2629
03:23:39,720 --> 03:23:46,000
And so, you know, there weren't really a ton of trailblazers that came before me.

2630
03:23:46,320 --> 03:23:53,160
There were some, um, you know, people like Chris Perillo, um, people like

2631
03:23:53,160 --> 03:24:00,840
I justine, um, but nowadays there's so much conversation around, you know,

2632
03:24:00,840 --> 03:24:04,640
what it takes to succeed that on the one hand, you know, the formula is

2633
03:24:04,640 --> 03:24:09,440
really well understood, you know, be yourself and, and engage with the

2634
03:24:09,440 --> 03:24:14,840
audience and be persistent and, and always be, you know, evolving.

2635
03:24:14,840 --> 03:24:18,640
And you know, all these things that, you know, everyone knows because you can just go watch a Mr.

2636
03:24:18,640 --> 03:24:24,520
Beast interview and he'll break it down for you. He's, he's very transparent in terms of what it takes to succeed on the platform.

2637
03:24:24,520 --> 03:24:28,680
It's just that the flip side of this coin is that the competition is so fierce

2638
03:24:28,680 --> 03:24:35,120
now that it comes down to who can most expertly execute on that formula and

2639
03:24:35,560 --> 03:24:42,600
who it can find a manner of engaging with that audience that is, that lasts.

2640
03:24:42,640 --> 03:24:46,440
Um, cause that's the biggest challenge. I mean, I was talking about this a fair bit last week and it was

2641
03:24:46,440 --> 03:24:50,680
something that I was reflecting on a lot. Um, when we thought, okay, well, that's it.

2642
03:24:50,680 --> 03:24:57,040
Like, you know, we've fallen off, right? Our views are gone. Um, then we turned around and had a couple, you know, 1.5, 1.6 million

2643
03:24:57,040 --> 03:25:00,240
view videos. I'm like, okay, I guess meets back on the menu. Who knows, right?

2644
03:25:00,480 --> 03:25:05,560
But I was thinking a lot about, you know, if this was the end, how privileged

2645
03:25:05,560 --> 03:25:08,720
I've been to survive this long in this industry.

2646
03:25:08,720 --> 03:25:11,960
And I really do think of it as survival.

2647
03:25:11,960 --> 03:25:17,160
There's not many people that, and I've never been, you know, at the S tier or

2648
03:25:17,160 --> 03:25:21,680
even the A plus tier, but there's not many people that have been at the B plus

2649
03:25:21,720 --> 03:25:27,920
A minus tier like I have for this long. And, um, it's a slog.

2650
03:25:27,960 --> 03:25:33,000
So I guess I'll, I'll say this is the most actual piece of advice that even

2651
03:25:33,000 --> 03:25:37,640
now most people don't like to talk about is that it is a fucking slog.

2652
03:25:37,880 --> 03:25:45,320
We are not designed as creatures to have a one to this many relationship.

2653
03:25:45,320 --> 03:25:52,400
And it is something that wears on a spot glass on literally such an

2654
03:25:52,400 --> 03:25:58,560
incredibly high percentage of your time by so many people all of the time and

2655
03:25:58,560 --> 03:26:04,680
be expected to be perfect all of the time. And it's something that wears on the viewers as well.

2656
03:26:04,720 --> 03:26:08,800
People, people grow, people change, people drift apart.

2657
03:26:09,200 --> 03:26:16,600
And it's, um, it's a weird relationship that as far as I can tell has never

2658
03:26:16,600 --> 03:26:20,880
existed before and who knows, maybe we'll learn something from it and this

2659
03:26:20,880 --> 03:26:28,360
type of dynamic will never exist again. Um, but you've got to be ready to grow a thick skin and understand that like

2660
03:26:28,360 --> 03:26:30,320
any job, it's work.

2661
03:26:31,960 --> 03:26:35,520
Don't romanticize it. You have a job to do.

2662
03:26:35,840 --> 03:26:41,520
So, you know, when the numbers are bad or when a comment is discouraging,

2663
03:26:41,720 --> 03:26:47,040
you're just going to have to put your chin up and you're going to have to just fucking figure it out because otherwise you will not survive.

2664
03:26:48,240 --> 03:26:53,160
Period. Yeah. Just like this show will not continue to survive.

2665
03:26:53,360 --> 03:26:56,600
Well, this, this episode. Well, we got the floodplain. Oh, right.

2666
03:26:56,800 --> 03:27:00,560
It's on top of the script. I tried to outro the video and you didn't let me.

2667
03:27:00,560 --> 03:27:04,600
Denied. It will survive slightly longer.

2668
03:27:04,640 --> 03:27:07,680
Sorry, the top of the script. Uh, yellow.

2669
03:27:07,720 --> 03:27:11,920
Sorry, I didn't unhighlight it. Very, very top. Second line looks.

2670
03:27:12,120 --> 03:27:17,680
Oh, that's the link. Yeah. Wait. So is it live or you have to make it live?

2671
03:27:17,680 --> 03:27:20,680
Okay. That's the last thing you have to do tonight before you get to go home.

2672
03:27:21,840 --> 03:27:29,200
By the way, you see that, uh, Hacksmith's, um, uh, uh, oh man, not, not carry

2673
03:27:29,200 --> 03:27:32,920
all carry all day, every day. No, fuck. Smithblade.

2674
03:27:33,440 --> 03:27:37,160
Yeah. No, no, no, not Smithblade. The knife with the pliers.

2675
03:27:37,160 --> 03:27:39,600
Every day carry. What's it, what's it called? This category.

2676
03:27:42,280 --> 03:27:45,520
Someone tell me multi-tool. No, no, no, no, no.

2677
03:27:45,520 --> 03:27:53,480
Yeah. Is it every day carry? Yeah. Every day carry. That's what I'm looking for. So his every day carry, um, Kickstarter thing is over 10 million US dollars now.

2678
03:27:54,200 --> 03:27:58,840
Yeah. For the Smithblade. Yeah. No, I know the Smithblade, but that's not the category of product.

2679
03:27:58,840 --> 03:28:01,240
I just mean is this thing that he's making. Yeah. The Smithblade.

2680
03:28:02,000 --> 03:28:10,200
The knife. Don't worry about it. The point is, dude, over 10 million dollars for our, for our fellow bro content

2681
03:28:10,200 --> 03:28:14,760
creator, good for him. It's so cool. What an absolute freaking Chad.

2682
03:28:14,800 --> 03:28:18,000
Great, great job. Fantastic. Uh, all right.

2683
03:28:18,760 --> 03:28:20,920
And now it's time to promote our own.

2684
03:28:23,200 --> 03:28:26,560
There it is. We spelled finale wrong. You know what? It doesn't matter.

2685
03:28:30,720 --> 03:28:34,720
Oh, no. Well, no, no, no, no.

2686
03:28:35,400 --> 03:28:39,120
Save. It's live. Go watch it. We'll see you again next week.

2687
03:28:39,120 --> 03:28:42,800
Same bad time. Same bad channel. Bye. It's six AM for me.

2688
03:28:42,800 --> 03:28:43,920
I'm going to bed. Good night.

2689
03:28:55,280 --> 03:28:58,720
We just got to close it. Get out of here. We're not applying yet.

2690
03:29:02,920 --> 03:29:03,720
Goodbye.
