This, apparently, is a 150-inch TV, or tablet, I don't know what it is.
What it isn't is 150 inches, at least according to my tape measure.
Maybe they got some new way of measuring these things over in China?
They do! What? It's called a Chinese inch. What? What Chinese inch?
You tell me! We stopped using that like hundreds of years ago. Oh my gosh.
Wait, there is a Chinese inch? Like every dentist they have like their own inches, their own measurement unit.
Jokes aside, the seller actually told us there is a little difference between Chinese inches and foreign ones.
This is the size in centimeters, but there's a slight problem with that.
The last time I checked, even 150 centimeters would be nowhere near the 100 inches that this TV actually is,
and they have centimeters listed alongside their inch measurements.
So, we have a few problems here.
First, there is no difference between an inch in the US and an inch in China, right Andy?
Oh, according to like the article that I'm currently reading, the Chinese inch, it's longer.
Okay, so it should be bigger.
That means we've been scammed, so I need to unbox these TVs to find out what the heck we got,
how big they really are, and even if they work.
Also, where's our segue to today's sponsor?
I am far more interested to understand why there's an Android and Windows logo as the only visible markings on the outside of this box.
Jamie has a theory, he thinks that it might actually be a smart board.
Oh, that'd be a great value at that price then. I don't think it is. Is it touchscreen maybe?
I don't know, I think it's just a TV. Whatever is or isn't inside of these boxes, I owe you guys some background first.
A few months ago, Plou found this listing on AliExpress for a 150 inch TV for $2,500 US and a 100 inch set for $640.
Now that listing is still up, but now that we've actually ordered the TVs, it's pretty clear that they are not those sizes.
Based on some quick measurements, it looks like the 100 inch is what you've got and this is more like a 65,
which should have cost us $640 and $442.
So they overcharged us by two grand? Yeah.
Funny to you. Yeah, it's not my money. These don't even look like they came from the same manufacturer.
Yeah, that's true, the boxes are totally different. High dynamic range, 2160p.
Every time I buy something like this, I wonder, I can't be the only one.
Who are the other people, right? Like there wouldn't be a listing for it if nobody ever bought one.
All right. Oh yeah, oh buddy.
Okay, hold on, hold on. Yeah. Ready? One, two, three. I'm gonna have to go just a little bit at a time though, because my ARM is gonna get stuck.
Yeah. Hey, one, two, three, go!
Geez, are you okay? What the f**k was that?
Honestly.
I can tell he's okay, that's fine. I'm fine, I'm fine. My palm hurts a little bit, but it's okay.
Okay. I don't know why I thought there might be more information on the other side, because there really isn't.
Wait, I get it. The Android is because it uses an Android-derived operating system, and the window is because the image clarity.
No, it's because it's like looking through a window. It's PC gaming ready, that's why.
Okay, there's no way. Make a comment now, don't cheat.
Don't watch the rest of the video. Who's right? Is this not sealed?
Not really, no. What the hell? We're supposed to lift it up.
Why would they have the top open? Oh man, this is... This is kind of...
The thing's gotta lift. This thing is gonna tip over. No, no, it's great. We got this.
We're not brother, we got this. We got this. Oh, you say this. Don't even worry, dog.
Oh, if that actually goes... It's got handles.
Oh yes, he's got handles for sure. You know what's funny?
Handles? Actually better than the handles on that Hisense TV.
Dude, I don't think it's loose. I think it's just a plastic handle. Oh my God.
Oh, my hands. Oh my God, that was terrible.
They do feel sturdier. They feel significantly better and they're not sharp on the inside.
Oh my God. Yeah, that hurt. Oh, the feet.
Oh, all right. And the remote? Or no? I don't know.
Those feel pretty good. I heard metal.
We got a couple of options. Oh, oh, oh.
Interesting. It's a two-piece system.
And then that bad boy goes on there. And I got to say, compared to some of the other large format displays we've seen recently,
these Vesa holes actually feel pretty good.
Are they Vesa holes? Well, I mean, Vesa-ish.
Sure. Oh, we got our first spec, Ploof. What is it? LED.
Hey, that could be a lot of things. Based on the thickness, though, I'm going to hazard a guess that it is full array.
You think so? Really? It would be thinner if it was edge-lit.
Wouldn't it? Not if it's cheap.
Have you looked at the bezel yet? Oh, it's thick.
Damn. That's not the, wow.
Oh, that's interesting. It also has like a front glass and a recess display.
It's way back. Is this one of the kick-proof TVs?
I have no idea. It looks like it has like a front layer.
We got to turn it on at least first. So then you can try kicking it. Although, I think if you kick it, we're not sending it back.
That's fair. If it was one of the kick-proof TVs, it would explain how it got here in one piece.
Look at how little packing material is left on this side.
Yeah. She's right at the edge.
And there was no front foam or back foam or anything.
Just this flimsy cover.
She is so front heavy, dude. Look, can you see the angle it's tilted at?
Yeah. Okay, watch this. I'm going to put it back like that.
Or is it going like this?
Probably like this. It's got to be like that because it's a recess here. Yeah, and I'm thinking the feet kind of go out.
Yeah, so that must be this side. Also, that is curved as hell.
It is.
Maybe it's curved to the TV. Yeah. Sure thing, buddy.
I'm in my lifting position. You ready, boys? I think so.
I don't even know where this is going in. Lift it once so I can see where it's going.
I don't know where it's going either, so. Okay.
Where the hell does it go? I don't know. Okay, I got to put it down.
See these holes right here? One, two, three, four, five.
But it doesn't even have six holes. I know. Maybe you don't need...
Well, I don't know. What the heck? That's the only spot I can find.
That's even got holes for like mounting stuff. And clearly there's a structural something here
because of the handles here. And they're the right thread. What?
The convenient low back force of the ratchet makes starting screws a snap.
You know how the rubber is kind of cut off?
I think it's because of this. Oh. But it's actually a little bit too long still
even though you positioned it perfectly. Yeah, sounds good. So that is what it is.
Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Never mind.
Never mind. Okay, I'm going to put it down. Yep, yep.
Do it. Whoo. Well, he's finishing that up.
Why don't we take a look at IO? We've got an antenna. Some kind of probably decryption card standard
that I'm not familiar with. A couple of what look like USB 2 ports,
two HDMI's, completely unlabeled.
So no idea what standard they are. Another HDMI.
We've got LAN, two coax jacks, and then composite.
Like not with the little breakout thing, like full on composite.
And then a C13 power and nice little power switch.
My notes say the next thing I'm supposed to do
is look for branding. And the script says,
who the hell is Xi'an Sing?
But I don't know where I would have gotten that branding from
because it's nowhere on anything. It's on their web store, on the AliExpress store,
on the marketing materials. Okay. Also, why are there featured apps at YouTube,
Netflix, Disney Plus, HBO?
None of that shits in China. Congratulations.
You now own one of the most state of the art
and technologically advanced high definition television products available.
Wow. Who we are will never tell.
Also, here's a front view of the TV showing you how to use your channel plus, channel minus,
volume plus, and volume minus buttons. Is that even the same TV?
Is the bezel on the bottom really that big? There's no way.
No, that's the frickin' CRT or something.
Okay, the remote's the same at least. It didn't come with batteries.
There's a card here that looks like it's all in Mandarin or simplified Chinese.
Andy, can you read this? I can help.
All the service and warranty is not,
you can use it in Hong Kong, in Macau,
or Taiwan, or other country. Oh, we're other country?
Yeah, we're other country. Nice. No warranty.
This morning, Poof asked me if something
is a well-known brand. In a way, yes, because the Chinese
pronunciation of Samsung is Samsung.
So they just picked something that sounds
really similar to Samsung. Exactly.
Oh my God, Poof. What?
It totally leans back. It really does. You know why?
Because the legs are backwards? No, because it's front heavy.
I don't know if that's the case. I think that's why they're curved.
I think the legs are wrong. That's my theory.
I don't think the legs are wrong, because you would want the bigger leg
in the front 100%. It's true if it's top heavy. 100%.
So it's less dangerous to tip forward. No, man.
No, man. That's their compensation mechanism.
We should get a level. Let's just not try to lift it too high for now.
That's a great idea. Is this console wide enough?
88 and a half? Right. It's a 70-something.
Oh, balls. So we probably don't have a console
big enough to put it on. I hit power. Oh, Smart TV!
Smart TV! This looks like absolute dog s***.
Look at the black of Andy's shirt.
That's great. I think Andy's shirt is more black
than the black of the TV. Interestingly, though,
just like in the instructions, it's got YouTube, Netflix,
North American apps on it. What is this product?
Twitter? How old is that logo?
You want me to connect it to the network? Not really.
Thank you for reading the terms of use. The terms of use from who?
Yeah, it's usually here somewhere. If you have any questions, please contact us through the aftersale service.
Who are you? I accept your terms.
Are you boys ready for some big peel energy? Wow.
Image quality is so much better. It's very glossy.
Dude, they're anti-glare coating?
Incredible. My aunt glare, she put it on.
Hi, Nick. Interesting.
Oh, wait, Linus. They actually have branding.
Oh? Oh, my f***ing god. What's this say, Andy?
What's this say? The first two Chinese characters, it's like colorful, you know?
Yeah. It's a TV. Of course, it's colorful.
Yeah. But like, that's TCL.
TCL is one pie in China. Wait, so this is TCL?
It must be. Why does that make sense? Because Samsung sold
all of their patents and manufacturing in China
to TCL. But I don't understand why it's loaded up in English.
Yeah, this should have come out in like simplified Chinese, right?
This came out of the box in English. Yeah.
How are we supposed to access Apple TV? I don't know.
Try it. Like, what is this going to load?
Apple TV. No, there's no way.
Apple TV. Get.
Free to download. Is it? Download it.
Download it. No star ratings. Download it.
No screenshots. Download it. Nothing you may also like.
What am I downloading right now? Apple TV. 4K enhanced.
Yes. How do you enhance it? I don't know.
Yes. Yeah, sure. But it got dimmer.
Yeah, maybe it's just like... What the sh** just happened?
Oh my god. I said the same thing. Every time I change it, it changes.
Okay, a lot of TVs have a store setting
because it will like go through demo footage and stuff.
Here, the store setting is to juice the brightness.
It's like looking into a mirror with the black too.
Oh, I know. It's like a perfect... Dude, like high camera behind us.
This thing is unfilmable.
Standard, dynamic, mild. What's mild?
Well, you want spicy or you want...
Let's go standard. Sure. Color temperature.
Yeah, sure. Normal. DNR.
Do not resuscitate this TV.
Oh, dynamic noise reduction probably. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, okay.
That looks pretty legit. It does.
Uh-huh. Sign in, please. Be my guest.
Also, look how the uniformity is kind of gray.
Maybe that's just a weird gray that Apple TV loading screen has.
I don't know. I don't think it is.
It looks so bad.
It's not TCL. What?
It's a knockoff TCL. So they knocked off Samsung.
They knocked off TCL. Yeah. And you would put it past them to knock off Apple.
Someone asked a question. Is Wucai Wang Pai the same Wang Pai as TCL?
One answer is saying, oh, like this is like a sub brand, blah, blah, blah.
But like, there are a bunch of people be like, no, that's a knockoff.
No, the quality sucks. No, no, no.
TCL is Wang Pai.
I can confirm the quality sucks.
I'm logging in though. I don't see why this would be wrong.
What do they have to gain other than access to your data?
This is the worst Wi-Fi chip in a TV I've ever seen.
Okay, I'm going to put the phone closer. I don't know if that's going to help.
We should plug the shield in. Oh yeah, look how much faster it is.
When you're close, what the hell? Yeah, I just had to go closer.
I wonder if it's the aluminum in the TV is blocking the signal.
I don't know, man, but it's way faster now.
There's a tech tip for you. Put the phone closer.
I think this is the most fun I've had filming a TV video since the kickproof TV.
Whether this is kickproof or not, I don't even care anymore. Oh my God.
You ready to give me your theory about how YouTube also has a gradient in their background now?
That's really bad.
Crab rave.
It doesn't have a mic.
Wow, this is what comes up if you're not signed in.
Donald Trump? On whatever this device profile is.
I'm going to look up the PPI of 100 inch 4K.
Also, why did it default to like 480p?
That's why I wanted to check the PPI because I'm like, this looks like ass.
Oh, maybe you don't have the speed for it.
So we are at a whopping 44 PPI.
Wait, I can get even closer to the antenna.
Oh my God. Because I think that's what the antenna over there was for.
I thought it was some kind of like TV signal or something. Yeah.
It got better as you moved it. Dude!
It got better as you moved it. Dude! Try bumping it to 4K now.
Let's see if we can do it.
Yeah, your phone's fine. Yeah, it's probably fine. You got AppleCare, right?
No. Wow, alright. They got the ceramic shield.
Dude. Optimal.
I don't think it's going to do it very well. No, it's going to do it. It's going to do it.
It's going. I'll give it that. It's been going for a while.
How can it be so obnoxiously loud and yet so quiet
and impossible to hear at the same time? Yeah.
It's real rough. It's like they took all the audio and they just like
squeezed it into one little picture.
It actually looks kind of okay. This is fine.
Yeah. Alright, let's plug in the shield and see how it does with a proper signal.
Sure. No way. This is HDMI 1.4 on a 4K TV.
Maybe I just picked the worst HDMI of the bunch.
Okay, I'm going to try a different one. You're going to try a bunch K. Yeah, that's garbage.
Alright, alright. It looks so bad. It's still 4K.
Oh my God. What a piece of crap.
To be fair, only one of them has arc. Try the middle one.
It's not going to be better. Well, it's the one with arc.
The arc one is never the high speed tort, Blue. I know, but.
Benefit of the utmost doubt.
It's the last one. 4K 60.
Huh? Huh? HDR 10 ready.
Yes, okay. Alright.
Okay. I'm glad we tried.
I wouldn't have wanted to be unfair to rip off TCL, rip off Samsung here.
What is happening? It's got it. This is a flickering.
Yeah. This is a functional picture.
Only in a dark, dark room, but it's functional.
I'm not saying it's good, but it's not the worst.
And it's bright enough that it overpowers the reflections a little.
Is this 60 FPS, or is it smoothing? No, it is 60.
It's actually 60 FPS, but no, HDR is not working.
It could also be just a YouTube app issue.
Let's try Plex. HDR 10. So it must have been some kind of app-related issue before.
Okay. She's trapped behind the glass.
You are fine. She's trapped behind the glass in the space between the glass and the picture.
I don't think it has any kind of full array local dimming.
No, no, no. Definitely not. This is edge-lit to the max.
So it's bright, but it lacks contrast. Yeah.
And it really doesn't help that the blacks that it does manage just turn into whatever's behind you.
Yeah, I can see it's like perfectly... Impressively though, I don't think the color accuracy is that far off.
No, the green in her glasses is usually what I kind of go off of and like the white on her blouse.
And it looks okay. I bet you the blacks and the grays and whites are what would really throw it off.
Yeah. Because the black is not going to get anywhere close to how black should be.
Color-wise though, it looks not bad. Yeah. I wonder how it gains.
Let's try it. Dude, I think that this is like handling Shmoo.
Yeah, it is. Yeah, because I wiped it over there and it's not coming off.
Dude, you can clearly see. It is clearly all over the inside.
Want to hear something crazy? Yeah.
It's not bad. What? Yeah.
Because we're in game mode. Well, it's probably because it's not doing any processing. It doesn't have any motion compensation or color smoothing or gradient reduction or whatever, right?
It is HDR. Here we go. Looks awful.
That's cool. But it works. Yeah, it does work.
That is clearly HDR for better or for worse. And you know, sometimes HDR in Windows looks bad.
This thing is such a piece of crap. How much should we pay for it?
Like $2500 or something.
The worst part is you can get a TCL for that now.
I know. Well, don't forget, we paid $2500 thinking it was a 150 inch.
They have offered some kind of compensation.
We don't know yet because they wouldn't process anything until they basically told us like,
okay, it's shipped. But also if you cancel it now, it won't come to your door.
It'll just get to the port and then return. So if you want it at all, either of the TVs, because they're bundled, you have to not dispute
the claim now, get them and then dispute it later.
I don't even know when we dispute this. I don't even know what's going to happen. Oh, we need to dispute it.
Oh, 100%. Okay. We're obviously getting frotted too.
To some degree. To some degree. I think to a pretty significant degree.
I think so too. No, no, no, no. 8-bit with dithering.
That's awful. Oh, that makes sense. But look, peak brightness 1500 nits.
I know that Windows doesn't always accurately report the brightness number.
No, because that's just from the e-did. So that's just whatever it thinks.
That's what it's trying to do. I call bull. HDR certification not found.
Yeah. That's awesome. Right.
I want to know if I can do 1080p and higher refresh rate. No. Forget it.
But we got rid of the dithering.
Just 8-bit. But we've got some nasty interpolation.
Look at how bad this text looks. Yeah. Also, you can really see the dirty screen effect when I move this around on it.
In fairness, even my TCL at home, the big 115 inch, has very significant dirty screen
effect, but you can mitigate it by turning on the full array local dimming.
Dude, I can't believe how much of the glass is dirty. Oh yeah, it's really bad.
It's like 8 inches in in some spots. Yeah.
No, I tried to fix it. I tried to clean it because I'm like, no, this can't be actually just stuck there permanently.
It is. Imagine.
I was about to say, imagine if you paid $2,500 for this TV and received it from China and
then I realized that she did.
What a f***.
Okay. Well, I don't know what's going on with this.
Try. Glad you're having fun.
This is great. Oh, it looks so bad.
The pixel response. Yeah.
It's just so blurry. This looks like motion blur is on.
I'm well aware that we're way too close to the screen, but the PPI is so bad.
That's not even the end of the world necessarily, but the contrast is so bad because it's a garbage
panel that the perceived sharpness is much lower.
It honestly kind of looks like the intrusive thoughts video where you had the monitor and
the freezer. It really does. It does, right?
It looks like the pixels are just super slowed down. So this is just the most garbage random VA panel that they can manufacture in this size.
Yeah. Thanks, Xi'an Sing. Mainland China.
Yeah, Xi'an Sing. Xi'an Sing? It's not Sanxing.
It's not Sanxing. China, Korea, Samsung.
Okay. Well, this is not. No.
It's just the legs. Right here. Samsung.
You see that? What the hell is that? Crystal processor.
That is not what we got. Well, there might be a crystal processor in here.
We don't know. That might be native crystal. I don't know if it actually processes anything.
The funny thing is, this is the exact same marketing material, but it is a slightly different
page from the seller that we purchased from because I noticed that Ours has some different
like questions and stuff on it. So it's like the exact same thing, but a different seller.
So how many different sellers are using the same marketing material? Look, it advertises HDR.
I mean, it technically has it. It technically has it. It's not very good, but it has it.
This has to be just ripped right off of Samsung's actual marketing in China or something.
That is actually saying like Samsung. They must have pulled it off of multiple different TVs
because these are not all the same TV. Fire questions and answers.
How many inches? No answers. No answers, just questions.
How many inches it has? How many inches? Not 150.
It has 150 Chinese inches. That's all the different pricing at the different sizes.
Right? They just send you whatever size they feel like, I guess.
I guess so, because they clearly sent us the 100 inch
and the 65 inch. Now the question is, is this just the same thing
but smaller? And it is. Everything from the weird little antenna
to the manufacturing schmoo between the glass and the panel is exactly what we just saw.
I don't think we need to fire it up, but we can give them some credit.
It's a 75 inch. Maybe 77. Maybe 77.
Not Chinese inches? If you guys enjoyed this video, maybe go check out the time we looked at
an actually gigantic TV that was actually good
from high sense. A lot better than this.
A lot better.