What's up guys welcome to the pre-show floaties welcome to the pre-show
Oh homework
What's homework is that what who's that my phone the pinging that's my phone. Oh the static. Yeah, I think it's you might also be my
Good production values
You
It's still going it
Maybe it is me
Should we um Should we just get like
Boxes maybe or should we wear those 5g blocking amulets? That's an option
What would you do? What did you if it if you did that and it worked?
Well, I have one of them on my phone and it doesn't
Just for laws. I've had it. I saw there's a post on reddit right now asking. What is that sticker on Linus's phone?
Oh, really? Yeah, I don't think anyone in that particular reddit thread figured it out yet
But there's been a couple of comments that there was one on the forum
What the heck is Linus wearing like 5g or wearing a 5g snake oil amulet?
And is the video yet? I don't think so
I think we still have to film like one little bit from it or something
We actually end up taking it like very seriously and testing it like very
Scientifically and stuff. I shouldn't say very scientifically but in our in our fashion
Using good tools like we like we put it in the CT scanner and stuff
Perfectly done So we can determine if the like antenna structure is actually like attached to anything and stuff like it like we
We try really hard To find the functionality in it. Mm-hmm
I don't think it has thorium in it
Oh Because some hoax stuff had just like radioactive waste in it
Yeah, that's totally a thing no apparent reason other than to get rid of it. Yeah
Or who you're giving it to you. Yeah
No guys, we are not launching the mod mat today. I I think that it would come across
Untactful
That's her no not even a little okay
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Way Merriam-Webster got my back
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That seems likely enough sure
It's close. Oh We'll be talking about Jimmy Fallon. It's gonna be it's gonna be awesome. It was it was a lot of fun. I
Had a great time
All right Luke did you see all the controversy surrounding pirate software in the hardcore wow community? I sure did
Is that a topic this week? Probably not. Oh my
Okay fair enough
All right We do this thing I think we have enough we have enough drama topics
For what? Oh
What is the right number of drama topics I think it depends on the
Severity zero would actually be nice. Yeah, I think it's the total overall magnitude of all combined
Wait the BTS was amazing. Thanks Luke for paying people to do that. What oh
Okay, I should explain What Floatplane media does not pay the people who work for Linus Media Group Inc
Who make content to upload to Floatplane? Floatplane media only pays the people who work on Floatplane the platform and
Well, okay, technically they On the store and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, but like yeah, so so Sammy works for Linus Media Group. So
Who is Sammy's director supervisor James? I think
I want to say anyway Sammy supports to someone and supports you reports to someone. I don't think so
I don't think Chewie has any reports. I'm not sure
Honestly have not looked at the org chart recently
But anyway, yeah, there's there's a behind-the-scenes on Floatplane. So you guys are gonna want to check that out of
Traveling to the tonight show. Yeah, some people are pointing it out. Linus Media Group gets subscription money from Floatplane
So the company is not the person
Companies compensate. I mean, there's a but there's a there's a hop there. There's a hop there though
Huh? Because Linus Media Group gets of check from Floatplane
Mm-hmm, and then Sammy gets a check from Linus Media Group. Oh, no, I agree. Oh sure
Sure, the company is getting compensated not the person. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah
Chewie and Sammy are the social media team and they report to James. Oh, there you go. Got it
That makes sense
Watch the Floatplane vid it was tense lol. Yeah, I dude. I actually haven't watched it
What I'm so what behind-the-scenes of visiting the tonight show. Oh
Sammy went with me. No, I know he went with yeah, I haven't seen the behind-the-scenes was up. Yeah, I shot it behind the scenes
Crazy. Yeah, that's cool. Dude. I was so stressed
beyond stressed Alright, should we start this thing? You've locked in though. Thank you. Well, I'll save it. We'll talk about it in the show
All right
Sorry, yeah, let's go hold on I need a drink
All right, I am resuming the selected and go
Hey everyone Before we start our pre-WAN Show topic today, I'd like to acknowledge a couple folks
I'd like to acknowledge our team who works so hard to deliver outstanding content to our community and second
I'd like to acknowledge our community. No one's perfect
Yes, even us and for as long as Linus Media Group has existed you guys have been there to help us
You've held us accountable when we've gone astray and you've also supported us when an attack against us is unfair
And it's time for someone else to be held accountable
Earlier this week gamers nexus took us out of context
Again, and I can't keep ignoring this sort of thing Linus recently in a WAN Show episode said the following
Regarding why they did not make a video when they found out about the way honey works years ago in
Response to how he believed that he might be perceived if he had raised awareness
The honey's actions when his team discovered them everyone's mad at me
It's that simple the I'm spreading the word for the smaller creators
That argument doesn't save me there and it's not gonna save me if I tell people to uninstall this extension that gets them a
Better deal so that small Creators can get their affiliate revenue
Are you kidding me? There is just no way that I make that video and I don't end up hanging from the nearest tree
Well, that's the video we're making right now And if that were to result in backlash like he thinks it would then so be it
Even if we ignore how disingenuous it is to compare the climate today and
What we know today to the climate years ago when we originally dropped our honey sponsorship
Our regular viewers will know that I provided additional context that dramatically changes the meaning of that quote
I mean, I don't expect everyone to agree with my viewpoint. It's very clear that not everybody does
But what I do expect is for it to be fairly represented and this particular instance of misquoting is bad enough that
Many from Steve's own community have used words to describe it like
disappointing misleading disingenuous and straw man
To my knowledge no retraction has been issued even though
I believe it is unlikely that the volume of comments about this went unnoticed by Steve and his team
You guys may remember another video Steve made about us back in August of 2023
But what you might have missed is that his treatment of us then was part of the same pattern of poor ethics and misrepresentation
To be clear many points in his video were valid
But many others were not and it was due to fundamental flaws in his approach not careless or sloppy flaws
But objectively unethical undrinalistic flaws
You shouldn't take my word for that while I do often report on things and I do my best to act in the community's interest
I'm not a journalist So why don't we instead look at ethics and journalism org?
They have some good articles on subjects like bad news bias and right to respond or
Maybe we could look to the BBC you can pick your poison the point is that while not every publication has exactly the same rules
There are plenty of helpful resources out there that outline the generally accepted standards and ethical responsibilities of a journalist
It's clear reading any of them that Steve's approach in recent years falls short in numerous ways
If you prefer a video summary Here's a convenient one from dr. Ian Kutris of more than more the story gamers nexus provides is one specifically about Linus media group
Which changes the nature of such a topic? For example one part of ethical investigative journalism is unless it's uncovering an explicit crime or break of the law
Reaching out to get a formal response in advance
Gamers nexus did it with principle technologies and that blew up
Gamers nexus did it with new egg and that blew up Somehow those companies got special treatment the Linus media group did not this isn't me sticking up for Linus media group here
But I'll be interested to hear the reason for the disparity
Steve in his update video explicitly states. He doesn't have to ask for mission, but that's not the point here
Reaching out to Linus media group wouldn't stop you from posting your video
Just like it didn't stop you posting at him posting the principle technologies or new egg videos the precedent set for the last
20 years of tech journalism and a hundred plus years of investigative journalism is that you at least reach out
Ian's critique was carefully worded and I don't blame him given the climate at the time
But it was both extremely valid and it was pointed enough that Steve felt compelled to respond to it
Ironically with a rushed late-night ramble fest that was so poorly received that he pulled it down before I even got a chance to finish watching it back then
Thankfully there are re-uploads of the video if you look for them But in a nutshell Steve spent about 20 minutes rationalizing that decades of journalistic best practices around right to reply
Simply don't apply to him. It felt a little ironic coming from someone who has accused me of gaslighting in the past
Now he did issue a sort of Retraction via a community post that you can still find on the channel where he committed to
Republish that video at a future date, but he said that it would be within a broader channel update
So I'm not actually sure if that ever happened and either way what he didn't do is retract his flawed arguments
Only the video where he made them. I say this because you can still find many of these arguments on his secondary GN mini site in the ethics statement section
Now obviously there are some valid policies in here But many of the others pretty much boil down to Steve's personal
Moral code rather than the standard journalistic code and I'll expand on that a bit later
but the short version is that no reputable journalist would validate his
Arbitrary justification for his own conflicts of interest or his convoluted no contact policy that he used to justify his failure to reach out
To us for comment as part of our right to respond
Now some folks don't seem to understand why this is so important
I have seen lots of speculation that
Linus was just upset because Steve cleverly didn't give him a chance to weasel out of legitimate criticism
But that is not the case We have proven over the years again and again
We welcome constructive criticism and we go out of our way to maintain open communication channels with our community
like through our sponsor could excuse me through our sponsor concerns section of our forum and
Through our incredible ECC squad who lends us their expertise at multiple stages of our production pipeline
no right to respond matters because of the impact that it can have on your accuracy by taking a single source and
For his own reasons Refusing to fact check their misrepresentations Steve made multiple critical errors in his coverage of the bill at lab situation
Now look, I know this examples from two years ago
But it's one that I'm obviously familiar with and it very clearly
illustrates the way that Steve believed and Still believes that he should be allowed to just avoid inconvenient data sources when he crafts his narratives
First up Steve missed that billet originally gifted the block to us. We were under no obligation to return it
He missed that they told us explicitly that it should work with a 4090 before we attempted it
He missed that billet told us they were comfortable with us publishing the underperforming results as long as we put it in context
And finally Steve missed that the block only went into our charity auction because of an internal miscommunication
That left the block marked as keeper a mistake that I took action on within literal minutes of finding out
now I Acknowledge that I didn't handle the situation perfectly
But I think it is undeniable that these omissions and errors are significant and that they've done significant
Possibly irreparable damage to my reputation to my company and to my finances
To be clear I'm only pointing out the finances because it's such an important factor in cases of libel and defamation as
I stated recently when I was discussing the honey class action. I'm not a litigious person
I have no intention of filing any kind of suit because a
It's really hard to say if the line to defamation has been clearly crossed and B
It would be a giant waste of time and money for everyone involved. I only bring it up to underscore the gravity of the situation
The thing is words mean what they mean and while morality is a personal judgment
Journalistic ethics is not It's determined by collaboration and consensus between peers in the industry
Look if Steve wants to do his own thing and call himself a youtuber with strong moral fiber
That's his opinion and he's entitled to it and you're entitled to agree or disagree
But if he wants to use word likes words like ethics or investigative journalism
Then there are objective standards that he needs to uphold and he doesn't get to decide when they're important and when they're not
Now I believe that Steve is aware of these distinctions which suggests that he is either
Ignoring his knowledge because he has failed to properly understand it or because he is dishonest. I
Have no evidence to suggest that he is not smart enough to understand these principles
What I do have experience with personally is his dishonesty
The misquote of me in the honey lawsuit video that forced me to address this is self-evident
But it's the rationalization for not reaching out about billet that paints a more complete picture
For starters, he asserts that the information presented in his the problem with Linus Media Group video was already public knowledge
Some of it was Some of it clearly wasn't billet Labs is representations of our private communication were not public knowledge
And as we demonstrated in our response, they were not provided in good faith or with the appropriate context
Had he reached out for clarification I feel it would have been clear both to himself and to his audience that the events that led to the block being auctioned
Were an honest accident caused by a miscommunication. I
Think it also would have been obvious that any perception that I behaved like a thief or a liar is not supported by the facts
It also would have been clear that some retractions and corrections were required in order to address the information that I provided to my knowledge
No such action has been taken and the original video is still up
Since we're at this I would also be very curious to see receipts for the claims that we have a
history of failure to resolve issues or
unprofessionalism in prior communications
Okay, G and further writes we previously had non-public contact with this organization
LMG here about similar matters that were not resolved satisfactorily or wherein we sometimes were the recipients of aggressive messaging pertaining to review top
topics sorry topics
That is an extraordinary claim that I believe requires extraordinary evidence
I'm not gonna deny. I've had my fair share of cranky days in my life It is possible also that he could be referring to another individual who worked here
But I dug through every DM and email that I could find with Steve. I probably don't have all of them
I have switched phones many times in my life But I can't find any evidence to support this
I'm not perfect So I want to make it upfront right here and say that if I acted unprofessionally or aggressively at any point
That was not my intention and I'm truly sorry but also
The whole thing just doesn't make any sense like if you stop and think about it
if he reached out for comment and I actually
Responded in the manner that he alleges I might with dishonesty or aggression
Publishing that response right that would be great
Supporting material for his expose So even if the argument that he doesn't need to reach out because I could be rude in return held up ethically
Which it doesn't it also doesn't hold up logically and the same goes for his claims
But I could somehow turn it into an opportunity to mislead
mislead who? Assuming his evidence and conclusions are solid any deceptive action that I took in public would again give him further ammunition to make his case
and unless he's afraid that I could somehow
Bamboozle him in private the most that I could do there is offer an explanation or context both of which could only help him
If his intent was truly to provide an accurate account
Unfortunately as many of you have come to realize after the latest honey thing. I don't believe that that was ever the intent
now look I Know that the first criticism of this segment is going to be there goes Linus again all emotional defensive
But what would you do what would you have me do I?
Apologized for the errors that we've made and I kept my mouth shut about the stuff for ages in the interest of moving past this
It's not working and like this isn't some random comment on Reddit guys
This is an influencer with massive reach misrepresenting me on an ongoing basis
How long should I stay silent to atone for my real sins and how many times should I be unfairly attacked before I'm allowed to get
defensive Thing is if I allow myself to be misrepresented that opens the door for someone else to be misrepresented
At some point. I'm sure you guys can agree. It becomes necessary to stand up for yourself. I am not saying I'm perfect spoiler
I'm super not but there are numerous conflicts of interest around gamers nexus covering us in any way
Which he well knows because he lists them on his website and a token gesture like
Forgoing the AdSense revenue on one video falls a little flat when you compare what can be gained through subscriber growth
AdSense revenue on future videos not to mention from elevating one's own reputation and brand at the cost of a competitor
Over the last year and a half I've made sometimes quite difficult efforts to put aside my personal feelings and move on in spite of my well-founded concerns about
Steve's impartiality not to mention the painful personal history some of which I just laid out
We including me personally have made an active effort to just go back to normal
Start shouting out gamers nexus. We've done it multiple times for their stories of reporting and so we should
When people do good work, we as an industry should praise it, but that should be a two-way street
The honest truth is I don't actually know what Steve's issue with me is today
My last message to him was on the day he published the expose and I never got a response
I will read it here so we can all be on the same page a
Journalist might have reached out for comment to get valuable context first
But we both know that once again this wasn't about making the most accurate video your glass house is showing
Here I'm referring of course to the analogy of throwing stones in a glass house
Scaling beyond a few dudes is a big challenge and I really hope that one day you get there
One I still think that even if your judgment is clouded right now by the giant conflict of interest you have around reporting on us
your heart's in the right place and That it would be good for the industry to I think it'll be good for your content and for your audience for you to have a broader perspective
I'll be moving forward as normal and won't be participating in any kind of nonsense public sniping
It'd be good for views or whatever, but I'm pretty focused on growing the company and our test capabilities and our team
You're still welcome at future LTX events and we'd be happy to resume working together in good faith
If you ever decide again that working together as press is good for the industry until then Linus
What I said holds true today including the part at the end I want to move forward
But that's going to take some work from both parties not just me
So I'm going to shift gears and the next part will be directed to Steve who was sent an advanced copy of my letter today
Which he has responded to kind of along with a request for comment on his apparent personal challenges around covering us objectively
Steve on wanshow today I'll be doing a segment outlining some of the ethical and journalistic issues with your content that I've observed personally and that I have
Seen raised by the community I will be especially focused on how they have impacted your coverage of me and my company because I'm most familiar with the relevant facts
But these issues appear to run deeper and I believe they could be impacting your ability to be objective overall
Something I know the community values greatly
There will be a particular focus on your stance around right of reply since it affects accuracy so much
And there will also be some discussion around misquoting as in the recent honey video as well as your ability to
address or is your inability to address your clear conflicts of interest when it comes to covering an entity that you've chosen to view as a
Direct competitor rather than as a collaborator or peer as you did in the past
If you have some comments and evidence on what breakdowns caused your inaccurate coverage of us in the past
Why you seem to find it so challenging to cover us objectively and what steps you plan to make to rectify these issues in the future
I would be happy to include your thoughts in this segment
The segment will also include the following letter that is addressed to you
Steve we do our best around here to do what we believe is right and to stand up for the consumer
That leads to us doing journalistic things sometimes and I understand basic journalistic principles
But I'm not a journalist and I've never claimed to be the reason I'm sending this to you
Then is not because I'm some journalist reaching out for comment But out of respect and because I was once a collaborator and supporter and I hope to be again someday
For that to happen though, I do have some requests
Everyone is human and we all make mistakes But I believe that for you to become the journalist you aspire to be there are some errors in both your approach and in your coverage
That are large enough to merit correction Obviously not everything needs to be pulled your methods aside. It's clear you were right about a lot of things in August of 23
But it's also clear that between the conjecture
Editorialization and what I hope are simply errors rather than lies a number of retractions are in order both on that piece
And in your other coverage This isn't just for me, but also for your community who looks to you to do the right thing
As for the personal side of things I can't ask you to like me
You clearly disagree on a personal moral basis with some things I do
Which of them are real and which of them are performative? I'm actually not sure anymore, but it doesn't matter. That's your personal compass and you've got to follow it
What does matter is treating others in the industry with respect and being prepared to be held accountable the same way you hold others accountable
Traditional journalism while a competitive battlefield has no absolute authority and is quite often a brotherhood with shared goals
That hold each other accountable to mutually agreed upon standards standards. It's not a brutal free-for-all
So as part of being a contributing member of the tech brotherhood, I expect you to be open to critique in the same way that you expect others to
Be open to critique. I Also expect that if you cover us publicly in the future
You do so with honesty Impartiality and proper disclosure of your numerous conflicts of interest
With that said regardless of your motives in 23 your actions did serve as a wake-up call for us to supercharge the changes that we were slow rolling and for that
I'm thankful Now it's time for your wake-up call should you choose to accept it
If you can't put your biases aside Simply recusing yourself is an option
But it might require some further retractions since you've claimed in the past that covering us is so very important because of our business's
Relevance to the tech industry Well, if that's no longer the case than any snipes that relied on that for justification probably need to go to I
Understand you may not want to rebuild this bridge But I still want you to know that while gamers Nexus LLC is every bit as much of a for-profit business as Linus Media Group
Incorporated I Linus Sebastian the individual still see you Steven Burke the individual as a colleague and potential future collaborator
Because the reality of it is personal feelings aside We both fight for the same team the consumers and the community a community that is stronger if we just cut the tribalism and work together
I've always said that a rising tide lifts all ships and that we all benefit from more interest in our hobby and more contributors to our community
I have always encouraged our viewers to follow multiple outlets and get multiple perspectives including yours
You used to tell me that you agreed with those things I hope you can again because this is going to be especially important as we navigate the weirdness around benchmarking machine learning assisted cards like the upcoming 50 series
So in summary, I welcome valid
Constructive good faith two-way feedback
But when I told you a year ago that I had no interest in public sniping matches
That was the truth our community in tech used to stand out as one that embraced collaboration and rejected beef. I
Would like that again. I Chose to make my statement as a segment on wancho and a clip on our clips channels rather than a dedicated video in hopes of finding a balance between
sharing my side finally and Igniting drama for views
So can we forget the past and move forward? See you at computex Linus
now I'd like to come back to addressing you all
For once in the history of online communities
Guys, I beg of you. This is not who shots fired
Do not get into a mudslinging match over this
Continue the good work you do holding creators accountable, but this is not and it should never be
LTT vs. G yet Gn us versus them
Some folks are going to insist on interpreting it that way
But I believe that the majority the rational viewers should be able to see the truth of what I'm saying
Even if they don't always agree with the source and see the importance of moving on as
For the ones that can't do that Look if their viewpoint is closed we gain nothing by arguing with them except wasting our energy
Energy we need to power our TX 50 90s So let's rise above it
So with that in mind then funny memes in bounds
I like humor as much as anyone But if Steve wants to move on then I would like to respectfully request an end to the Gn bashing posts for that matter
Any other publication in our various community gathering places YouTube comments
Discord reddit and the LTT forum and any that I haven't thought of I'd like us to be the change we want to see in the world
Thank you you guys One last note. I know that we did announce that we were going to launch our mod mat this week a project
By the way that we kicked off long before the August controversy and that was created in collaboration with mod
Right the owner of the mod mat patent who's been making them since before anyone in the creator space got the idea
But even though our mod mat has nothing to do with Steve
I felt it would be tacky for us to have a long discussion about an important topic like this
Then immediately pitched to a sales pitch our pivot to a sales pitch for a product that competes with one of his
So we're pushing the launch to next week now
With that unpleasant business out of the way
Welcome to the land show. We've got a great show for you guys this week
I went on the tonight show with Jimmy Fallon. I'm gonna be talking about that. I had
dude At the time of my life. I I'm I honestly know very little about it
And I'm just as interested as probably they already hear about it. I'm stoked
We're also gonna be talking about a perception that I've seen in the community that review embargoes are bad
Yeah, let's talk about that. What else we got this week Nintendo officially announced the switch to and
Goodbye tick-tock and what's happening in the world of apps because of that. I
Was prepared look at that. Wow
What year is it dude
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And rocket money and of course by our rap partner D brand in our chair partner secret lab
Andy's dad got him I Knew about most of this. I didn't know about that. I just made that. Oh my god. I was feeling your reverent. Oh
Lifted tension Do we want to what are we doing? What are we doing? Are we doing Fallon or we doing one of mine?
What's the what's the plan? I want to talk about the tonight show, okay?
on Wednesday, so what what what this would be on the off that?
Okay, how annoying is it that you click the thing down here and the calendar doesn't pop any more so so on Wednesday the 8th I
Got an email that was like Hey, so
Like CES right man. Yeah, and I'm like, yeah, I'm a little busy. I'm like, you know covering
Literally there right now, but yeah CES and they're like
Do you want to be on the tonight show with Jimmy Fallon? I'm like I
Got to be honest with you. I knew my answer, but immediately I was like I
Got a trust I don't want to just trust myself on this one because it's it's a huge stage
And on the one hand I could nail it, but on the other hand I could bomb it. Oh, yeah
Oh, yeah, I have that I have dude. I have bombed things
It's also like as much as honestly, I think the viewership across both I googled what the viewership
Yeah, that show is I think it's like honestly fairly similar, okay?
We can talk about that more later whether that's true or not. I have no idea, but it's just a totally different thing
It's not it's not the wancho. This is this is like a home home turf advantage, you know
Like there's there's the sets. Yes, there's things that were used to you've done show coverage
I'm with my shooters who I can riff with and stuff like that like there's there's things that you used to and then there's then
there's just completely like
Whatever the heck that experience was I can't even imagine okay
So anyway, what the so the first thing I did was I fired off an email to I think Colton
Yvonne Chui who's our community manager and I think I included Taryn as well. I'm like
What do you think? Should I do this?
And they were basically like oh, yeah, and James James s because it would disrupt our production schedule a little bit
Like it basically cost three days because of the timing I had to fly in the day before I had to do the show
Wait, did I fly in the day before or no? I did a red eye I did a red eye the night of and then did the show and then I had to fly out the next day
And the show's not at night. I thought it was live this whole time. It's it's I mean I haven't it's live to tape
So in terms of the actual filming experience
It functionally might as well be live because they're doing live camera switching
But it actually like if you've ever attended it in person which which you can do and it was a packed house because like
Bad bunny was on the show It's actually a few hours before the actually the airing of the episodes so they have time to you know bleep any make minor
Bad cuss words. I thought it was like a like a 15 second buffer or something
So they had time to bleep and and like block things out and that's it
No, but what I will say is that the taping experience is really not paced
From what I saw that differently than if if it was live
I think if I was to guess I would say the liveness or the I would say the live to tape rather than liveness
Is more about making sure that it's that it's really smooth and really clean
And less about that they couldn't do it live if they really wanted to they clearly could yeah
That team was so pro. We'll get to that in a second though. So anyway, they basically gave me the green light
We figured out the travel arrangements. I promised myself. Do you remember when this happened? I promised myself like
Nine years ago 10 years ago that I would never do a trip immediately after ces again
I'm I probably yeah. Do you remember when I did that?
No, but I'm pretty sure we've talked I was at ces and ford reached out wanting to sponsor a trip to the new york international auto show
I literally came back from las vegas had a meal with my family in the airport
And then got on my plane going to the next trip. It was horrible. I told myself
I would never do it again Well, I did again and I am so glad that I did
Dude, okay. So so back to it being different
I've done live before I think the first time I ever
Performed live and I I don't mean like when I was in a choir recital when I was a kid or whatever
The first time I ever had to like early one like worked the crowd was at the ncix
Tech fair at Aberdeen mall. That's the same one. I was gonna say darn it
So what happened then? And this this is really funny was
Microsoft I believe was one of the main sponsors of the event
But realistically do you think microsoft actually has the time of day for it was like a weird little thing in the courtyard of this
Mall like a shopping mall. It was odd They just set up like tables and like down one of the hallways by the ncix store and then vendors were just like
Sitting behind their tables I uh
Whatever like a couple I think like a couple case brands had some cases on their tables and stuff
It was super weird super jank. Anyway, microsoft didn't have the time of day for this
But they sponsored it because the way that sponsorship dollars work for retailers is typically through mdf
or at the marketing development funds, I think is what it's short for and
essentially Rather than being a negotiation where I go. Hey luke. Um, I want to do a video on your water bottle
Give me some money and we'll do the video the way it actually works is
I'm a store and I sell these water bottles that luke's company makes
And a percentage of my sales revenue gets rebated back to me for approved marketing activities
So realistically what happened was ncix was just looking for a way to spend some mdf
And microsoft was like fine screw it. Who cares? So we did this weird we did this weird, uh, like tech expo thing in Aberdeen mall
At some point they're like, hey, we need you to go on the stage and do I think it was like a giveaway or something
I I don't even remember what it was
But it was one of the most awkward things that I had ever done in my life because it really makes sense
I had no idea What the point of anything I was doing was I had no experience
With like crowd work or addressing a live audience
It's really at that point. I was already making videos. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, because luke was in the picture
So I was obvious. I've been making videos for a while, but talking to a camera
is different I think that must have that must have been 2012 I can
I can perform for the camera Without even thinking about it. It's it's second nature to me now
Live Is different like when you make a joke live like I think the uh, the waifu one didn't land in person
No, it landed in different ways. That was so good
The waifu one did not land in person dude
The kind of mortification That you feel like when it joked doesn't when it joked doesn't land with you guys
I just like I shake it off. Yeah, but the silence
Is deafening It's deafening silence
And I could tell it immediately that I did something wrong
Not not wrong like like they were mad at me or anything wrong
But when I was like, I'm on real tv Do you know how many times someone has probably said that on the show? Oh tons for regular viewers like come on
I feel like that's like, um Man
What would that what would that be like it'd be oh it'd be like walking up to a to a beloved tv actor and asking them to
Do their catchphrase You know like it's just uh
It's played up So I did that which immediately got me like oh, I did that I can't believe I did the thing in the
And then you know, obviously I have some idea what they want to talk to me about but it is very much uh
And I gotta say Fallon gets a really bad rap
For like, I don't know overreacting or fake reacting to things
Dude, what are you talking about? He actually they told me he went out of his way because I I respectfully asked I said look
I value genuineness in people's reactions to things
I would respectfully ask that while you explain everything so that he like, you know knows what it is
That you not have him put the glasses on not show him the color changing and and and have it be fresh fresh fresh
And they're like, yeah Of course
And you know, what's funny is you know how he like he gets a bunch of flak online for like
Overlapping at things Sure, honestly, I have no idea. I don't I don't watch any form of tv. It's that's not it's not against his show
I don't watch yeah No, well, well, he does sometimes because like I I kind of like looked up, you know
What what to expect, you know from because I've watched clips from time to time
But I also don't have a tv subscription. So like I watch clips on youtube, right? Like that's that's about it
and and And I've also I've read through a lot of the comments on ours and the flip side is there's people saying he looked so uninterested
Know what he looked like to me as a person who was actually there
Who was actually sitting on the couch across from him Was someone who was listening to me talk about things and genuinely experiencing them
I thought he was great and he was such dude
Bad bunny is the most effortlessly cool person that I have ever met
No, no, I'm serious I I barely even interacted with him
Did you see him put on the glasses? I swear to god that guy could put on a milk crate
And it would look cool Pull the what's her name she put on the potato sack
Sure, yeah In fact, I bet a lot of people didn't notice this but he was wearing for his belt. He was wearing a rope
Oh with his like slick outfit. He just had like a rope tied around his waist
It's probably some fashionable thing because Because because when you're that cool anything you do is cool anything you touch is cool and anything you say is cool
Also, that was hilarious when he was like nudes
Yeah Let me put it. I was kind of surprised they left that in let me put it this way sir
You probably get nudes I don't
Have you ever I have all my dms turned off. Uh, yeah, so I don't know maybe at some point
But I yeah, there's there's no way that I there's no way that I yeah did bad bunnies steal the glasses
Come on guys. He's a professional And do you think he can't afford glasses if he really wants them like the brand
Immediately responded saying they would send him glasses like he doesn't need to do that those ones are are pre
Those are development samples probably Um
Those pretty cool. They came back. Have you seen them? Uh, not in person. Oh, I never I had when you were talking about bringing out glasses
I thought you were you were going to do the the screen ones big screen beyond or whatever
Oh, like a whole of your headset. Yeah. That's a lot of setup here. Here you go. Okay. All right. We're doing the demo again
We're doing the demo again. Let's go boys. So how do I it's somewhere over here. Yeah, it's somewhere over there a little bit further back
That is actually pretty wild while you're right. That's crazy. We have a short
I'm not sure if we've published it yet So, you know how on the show he asked how it worked and I was like that is pretty cool magic. Don't worry about it, right?
Wow Whoops, whoops. Okay. I see how they charge too. They're not that like bulky for having electronics at them. No, they're super cool
Yeah, um, so I know on the show we we I kind of hand waved it away because I knew my segment wasn't super long
um, and I was like magic, um, but
We do know how they work and we shot a short when I got back that looks like it hasn't gone up yet
But we'll be going up very soon explaining Exactly how they work. So stay tuned for that on the LTT channel channel. They're soup. They're super cool
Man, what else is there for me to talk about with it? It was it was so surreal
Like they did they did a walkthrough with me so that I'd be familiar with the like the stage layout and stuff like they wouldn't just
Shove me out there and be like go So they did a walkthrough where they just had stand-ins at the desk for bad bunny and jimmy
And then they like open the curtain and they say okay go
And so, you know, they show me how to do the walk-up and shake hands and shake hands and sit down
Oh my god, the way I sat down I was so awkward
I don't think I know and like I let my pants get hiked up like this high notice that I thought that was on purpose
No Okay question. Were those your darn tough socks or did you sneak the LTT prototype socks on almost everything on my person?
Was LTT was I the only one that noticed the socks? Nope. Okay. Okay. No. No the community loved it
They saw they saw the commuter bag. You know, it's like a commuter bag for sure
It was actually their team that was that kind of
Hinted that or that kind of started the idea rolling that like I'd have a bag of tricks, you know, and I was like, oh, that's perfect
I have a backpack And and that works for me and to be clear
I fully disclosed to them like that it was my backpack and I saw a lot of people speculating that
Oh, they They wouldn't have they wouldn't let them say LTT Store or they wouldn't let them pimp it or whatever that did not happen
I didn't get that. I could not say a negative word about the tonight show team
If I try that's cool. They were professional
responsive so accommodating. I mean, I guess they have to be used to like
actual famous people and stars and stuff
Or is it they're like tripping over themselves like can we bring you one of these can we get you some of this?
Are you comfortable? Are you that I'm like I'm good. They're like, can we close the door of your green room? I'm like, I mean the door's right there
Like they were they were so so accommodating
Um Loved me. Oh, here's another thing that I think people don't necessarily appreciate about s-tier personalities like
I consider myself An a-tier personality. I think I'm I think I'm pretty darn good on camera for the most part. I screw up sometimes and
You guys could obviously tell I was pretty nervous on the tonight show segment for the first part
I I said this in the pre-show and you told me to shut up which is fair because this should have held it for this segment, but
Yeah, absolutely. You did lock in though. I had the whole time you were sitting there talking
I was like, man, stop like stop talking about yourself and start talking about tech crap
Because the second you start talking about tech crap, you'll be fine. And then you finally did and immediately locked in. I was like, oh, we're good
That's my boy. Yeah So he's got it, man
Jayden's in chat line has seemed so nervous. I know my rl
Duh, uh, and it was so weird to see him like that. It was endearing though. Thanks jayden
You did totally lock in though. Oh Thank you. Thank you. Um
Yeah, yeah j2134 and in full plane chat said the lock in was crazy. But yeah, but okay jimmy
s-tier right like Ludwig s-tier, you know, you encounter people that you just you look at and you go
I could practice my whole life And I will never make it look as easy as you do
Like the the whole the whole um dick joke thing with the laptop
Do you not think he knew where he knew something was coming?
I mean how maybe not that maybe not that
But there's no way that he didn't know something's coming right with the way I set it up and i'm like
And i'm like laptop
I was a little concerned when he did that not gonna lie And then it worked out great then that means that then that means I did good. That means I did good
Anyway, the guy's such a pro. He just he walked into it for me
You know like yeah, yeah He when he needed to talk to help
You know slow me down You're calm my nerves or just get us to move on when i'm being boring. He did it
Gently he was a good orchestrator. Yes. Yeah. And when it was time to let me talk
And respond sparingly He did that he did that. Um, so I dude I uh, I I had I had a heck of a time. I met him for like
five minutes before the show and um
And oh I was I was so stoked because
I feel like production teams can be very protective of their talent
And and they and they should be right because that the entire show rides on the talent
Delivering night after night, you know, so they could they can be very protective. So when I said
What they told me jimmy's favorite game because they kind of wanted the game on the um
On the x-ray glasses to to be something that he was deeply familiar with
They told me at zelda Yeah, my relationship with nintendo
So My confidence that I could go on network or sorry to uh, not network, um
Broadcast broadcast tv. What's the difference? I forget but there's a difference one one's free one something
Whatever the point if I go on tv, okay? Yeah, and use nintendo gameplay
My confidence level Pretty low. So i'm sitting there. I'm racking my brain
I look down and I see my what would luke do bracelet
And I was like How did I not think to just give him balder's gate three?
Yeah It's same control schema because all I needed to do him to do was walk around a little bit and just be like whoa
He had 162 inch screen in front of him, right? That's all I needed him to do
So so all I did so in the pre show it's on the pre brief. I was like, okay, look your team like
Your team's like oh make sure that you you know
Go through this with that. I'm like, okay So it uses it uses standard dual stick control. He's like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, he'll be fine. Yeah
Ah, dude, he would I don't know. He was he was super cool. Yeah, and you didn't need it Like he didn't need to get in a fight or anything
He just needs to see that he could see the screen in his glasses That was all that really needed to have yeah, and and uh
And I was very sure that larian wouldn't go after us so
That was one of the other reasons That I went with that. Yeah, they're pretty chill
Anyway, yeah, they made the experience completely unforgettable for me. I I shared them with luke
But they are Technically not for commercial use so i'm not gonna put them on the show right now
But they sent over a nice little photo album for me Oh, yeah That included like a like a cool black and white shot
Of the back of jimmy's head and me standing in the green room faking his hand and like
A nice wide of me on the set during the show and the big tonight show logo and stuff
That's genuinely very cool. Yeah It was really different. I've never really done traditional media before I didn't know that. What's up?
Sven the CEO of larian apparently tweeted the clip out. Oh, that's super cool
Of course he did so I want to talk I want to talk about
the um the difference between a view on tv
And a view on youtube because I got to say on the one hand
I am so I was so excited Like elated to to have this experience and to get to do this and to have it be so cool for me personally
But on the other hand a small part of me couldn't help being like
Okay, why isn't everybody this excited and impressed when we get five million views like all the time?
Right, like why is it? Well, no, I think it was comparative because you look at like they upload a lot to that channel
No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't mean that I mean like on LTT
On a very regular basis. We upload a video that gets a couple million views. Yeah
I don't have people Crawling out of the woodwork from all parts of my past being like, oh, I saw you. I saw you on fowlin
But that's the thing is even though it's it's only because I saw a lot of people being like
Oh, it was so it was so gracious of Linus to support up and coming creators like jimmy fowlin
Which is a mean it's a mean it's a mean format like they don't mean any disrespect
Um and while you know, we get a lot of views and stuff
What I've discovered is that even even though obviously I'm I'm new media
In and out All the way through to my core. Yeah a view on traditional media
Just plain isn't the same as a view on new media
It just plain doesn't hit as hard whether it's the kind of the glamour and the spectacle
Whether it's the polishedness of the production whether it's the just whether it's just the perception
Dude, everyone and their dog reached out to me about it
Like people I haven't talked to in years people Yvonne hadn't talked to in years
We're reaching out to her being like yo, I saw Linus on fowlin
There's definitely yeah, there's a definitely a prestige perspective on it. Yeah, and you know what when I was there
Sitting in the studio. You got it. You got the production. It's a vibe. It's a vibe. It was so cool
Let me see what else I've got. Oh sammy has some notes on the experience So this is great if you guys are hold on a second. I'm just gonna do
Yeah, open this in a new tab if you guys are subscribed to Floatplane
Sammy actually came with me on the trip. Yeah for the express purpose of creating this behind the scenes vlog
of getting to and Appearing on the tonight show. So if you guys want to check that out sammy came along for the ride
And he actually has some notes in here as well He says they oh no that one
They says he says bringing Yvonne was an excellent call. I actually wasn't gonna bring her until five hours before my departure
Why well because she has like we have a lot of stuff going on with the kids
Yeah, but I'm assuming she wanted to we have a life She she wanted to be supportive
You know how she is she wants to be there doing whatever is
The single most productive useful
Thing and she puts aside a lot of her own feelings to do the right thing to to to to drive things forward
and so if the right thing was to make sure that
You know the kids all get to their stuff and whatever else
She was down to do that and watch from home if the right thing was to make sure that I don't blow a flipping gasket
Freaking out about this thing Then she was down to come with me
And sammy said bringing Yvonne was an excellent call a lot of praise warranted. He has has that bolded for keeping your nerves
For keeping your nerves like five percent was caught on camera in terms of nervousness and Yvonne making you calm down
If it was just you and me all I would have been able to do is give you a thumbs up and say you got this
And the shoot potentially would have gone way worse
Oh
All right Merch plug missing how to oh, yeah, man
I gotta can I can I please for maybe the final time ask the community not to speculate
Speculation is bad It's bad. And if you don't know don't say anything
X-Rail is using footage from Linus on the tonight show in their ads not saying this is good or bad
Just notice it while scrolling. It's great promotional content for the glasses. It makes sense to use it
Quite honestly, I won't be surprised if the items he chose to take to the show are sponsors. That's exactly how it works
No It isn't
If you don't know Don't say anything and that's actually not our footage
Yeah, I that I don't know anything about that, but Whether it's it's their footage. Yeah, whether they have the rights or not x-real wise that I don't know
I don't nothing about that. Yeah, what I do know is that x-real did not give us
A dime for the appearance what happened was we got the call on wednesday and we went
Holy crapsicles just for reference ces functionally closes on thursday
So we got the call we went Holy crapsicles we spent the rest of wednesday
Deciding to do it and then compiling a hit list and then on
There were there were multiple options for the segment. There was a possibility that if we didn't find anything
I would have sat on the couch done a terrible segment
and Never been invited to tv ever again
but I wanted to go for gold on this because I was like pretty excited about I mean, it's it's a cool
Yeah, it's a cool milestone. Even if it only happens once and so I told them look here. I told the team look
Here's what we should try to do. We should try to bring ces to the tonight show
So we spent thursday part of the team massive shout out procurement massive shout out the man in the chair
James who was coordinating a lot of ces stuff from back here at home base
massive shout out to the writing team that was actually at ces
I hope i'm not missing anybody but not massive shout out massive shout out to our team for getting that together
So fast so on thursday, we went around to our hit list items and we basically were like, hey, here's the opportunity
Nothing is guaranteed because we have no what we're going to pitch it. It may or may not make it
You know, nothing's guaranteed. This is the op. Are you interested and
We scraped them together the way x-real happened was I was shooting that vr. Did you watch the vr headset?
Tied by side that I did no, okay, so I did it. I did a vr headset side by side with pimax and um
I'll shoot that really cool lightweight OLED one or micro OLED one
I'm so sorry. Anyway, uh, someone's going to tell me in the chat and that's going to make it easier
Anyway, I did this this vr thing and next to them was x-real and I'd seen a couple articles
But they weren't actually on our hit list at that time. So I went over to x-real
With uh with andrew. I think it was who was shooting with me. I'm megan e x. That's the one
shift all so I went over to x-real and I got in line for a demo and um
It was actually kind of a long line and we were kind of thinking of leaving and then one of their reps came like
Scurrying over and was like Hi
What would you like to see and I was like, oh, I actually don't have a lot of time. I was I was thinking I might actually go
She's like, no, no, no. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. So clearly she figured out
Who we were and I had at that point I just wanted to try it out because I had read some good things about it at the show
But I I had um I've never been a big fan of the wearable display thing. Yeah, I think I remember doing a video with you a while back
Where we kind of trashed it where we used it wasn't I don't think that was an x-real one
I think it was someone else no, but either way the the technology a wasn't there wasn't there and b
Just didn't seem compelling to me in at least that
You know weight and form factor and and dunglage situation and I think we were pretty much on the same page there
Um, so I you know, I don't know. I was like, I'll try it. Sure. Um
Anyway, I try it blows my freaking mind
Because it's really good. Um, the uh, the the darkening the chromatic uh, chroma chromatic
Electrochromatic whatever the the darkening lenses
Man, they're really good. They block out so much conveniently for for x-real. They had a super bright obnoxious
neighbor Uh, and the exact convenient for them exactly where their demo was set up
It was like right there shining into your eyes and you go And you can see it, but when you're focused on your content you can totally ignore it
So I'm sitting there playing switch games. I'm like I I want to take the I want to take this this night
So this is such a it's such a like wow moment because that's what you that's what you want for that like that tight
Just be visual to that tight format and I knew it wasn't going to be that but I knew we had other things
That could be more visual and more engaged. His reaction was
Quite visual though. I think I was telling Linus about this too when he didn't get it for a while
That almost made it so much better and to be clear. He wasn't faking anything
He could see the projected screen Just he it seemed like it was like
It didn't change the experience that much, but when you can be like
When you look away from it, exactly didn't look try them last week. Yeah, I was I was going along with this segment
Don't worry about it. Oh, yeah, anyway Week before last week, I think right so so so anyway, we were there and I'm like wow. This is really cool
um their CEO and founder walks past
Was having a meeting with someone at the booth which they tend to do a lot of the time the really big wigs tend to not
Rooms well a lot of the time they tend to not do the meetings on the show floor though
Uh In light of recent events involving ceo's getting gunned down in the streets. Oh, yeah
CES uh had a I would say a tighter approach to security than in the past
I'd still say there's a lot of gaps, but anyway, there's there's certainly been some
Conversations around, you know ceo's and and security
um Yeah I don't know if I'm gonna say it. Yeah, that's probably fine. There's like an incredibly easy way to get through security
But I'll just don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Um
Anyway, but he happened to be there because they did have a meeting room in their booth
And he was like yo And
And so I was so I so I basically I got to pitch to him personally
Hey, here's this op. I really like this product
Can can can I take it with me right now? And they weren't able to give it to me right now right now
But we I think we sent procurement back like two hours later and that product
I think is not coming out for a while like that's not out yet. Yeah, um, but they were like, yeah
We got you we got you with everything they sent a rep with us to the tonight show
Oh, wow to like make sure that everyone was briefed and everything was cool
They gave me a briefing there on the show if that was my company like yeah
Well, yeah, especially if it's that pre-release like just have them there for like technical support
Make sure nothing's gonna go wrong last and you had an extra pair. Yeah, of course. Just in case stuff goes wrong with your release hardware
um, but no No, xreal didn't pay a dime
To me or to the tonight show for their appearance there like not everything
Not everything is a conspiracy theory And you know what? I don't doubt for a second that some things do involve payment 100 percent 100 percent
But that doesn't mean that it always is um, the other assumption that I saw here
is Linus is doing loads of interviews
So that he can go on more talks industry events be a speaker, etc
Um, that sounds like the probably the thing that Linus would hate most so
guys, um I've talked publicly already about why we went down to california
We haven't done any collabs in a while colin and samir have wanted to do something with us forever
And Colton lined up the um, Anthony padilla assumptions
Uh, is it is it a podcast kind of what is it interview?
Whatever thing because we were down there talking to colin and samir. Anyway, so that was back in
december November, I don't know. It was it was back. It was back last year
um As for the tonight show appearance
Completely random totally unrelated. There's a bunch of speculation in here that I was down there for tonight show and therefore I
Hooked up with colin and samir and Anthony padilla as well. They're not even on the same coast
right like Come on guys. Sometimes sometimes things just sometimes things just happen. We we've been in the mood to do some more collabs
We've also collabed with mighty car mods. We've also collabed with doug demuro
Um, just just relax guys relax guys. It's okay. It's okay
Um, what else what else we got here man? It was so fun
Um
Next topic Do we move on? Yeah, I think so
I've got a lot of people asking would you go again? I would like to formally say I would love to yeah, I honestly the second it was
Announced as an idea on like Wednesday or whatever when it was going around internally. Yeah, um, my brain immediately jumped to like ces guy
Just like, you know do a thing every year or I mean maybe more often
Who knows well, I don't know but like it was it was a cool segment and I think
Tech has gotten more boring over the years, but clearly it's not like nothing's happening
Yeah, and it's not like there aren't people who are five years out of the loop that I could too show
industries that have been developing for years and years and years like non-standard audience like wearable displays, you know
Yeah, be like, okay. Yeah, but we're at the point now where it's like wow cool like these a lot of a lot of mainstream people if apple doesn't announce one
I don't I don't know what it is. Yeah, and even apple like dude
Do you know how easy it would be to find an apple person who like doesn't know anything about the vision pro because who cares about the vision pro
Uh, hold on. I'm trying to find uh, I'm trying to find the uh, I'm trying to find the outreach someone asked
What I put in my rider And uh, so I want to find my I want to find my response email to them because I basically just said
um I
Said can you send me an example of a previous segment that would give me some idea of what format and what I should expect?
And then I said I'm five's deep in ces stuff right now, but I'll get back to you today
and then I said um
I'm five's deep. I don't know. That's an expression, right?
I know taylor says that all the time Uh, hold on. Where did I where did I say yes because I I basically was like
Uh, hold on hold on hold on
Basically nothing. Yeah Here we're just talking like
Okay, I think I missed it. I must have been like a one-liner or something, but yeah, I had nothing in my rider
I had no idea what to expect I've never done this before
It felt pretty cool to get the tap you know
I'd love to know we actually haven't gotten a lot of those
No, um, and you know what? I kind of get it
Like I'm not really tv ready You know
You did good by the end. You did very good by the end. I mean in other ways though. Like I like I literally
I saw I saw a couple people that were like yo Linus. You got to respect the
You know the dress code, you know, where's your suit? And I'm like, yo, I don't even like own a suit that fits. Yeah
and Okay, I could I could probably I could probably buy one but like that's never been me
That's never been My thing I think it's fine. Like the there was a there was a commenter that compared it to like animal handlers going on
On these types of live. I would love you're like tech bro guy. I would love to be
Animal handler tech guy of tech. I don't necessarily I wouldn't necessarily want to be like like pigeon hold
Like I wouldn't know like at some point, you know, I would want to develop and and I don't I don't know how this works
And I haven't I don't know, but I'm just kind of talking out loud here. You know at some point. I would love to
I don't know. Well, whatever. I'll I'll be tech bro guy to start
Because because I got to know my role right so you wanted to like co-host it sometimes. Oh, oh heavens. No, you don't want to be bad
Oh, no Yeah, you do hosting the ten night show. I look how cool I am when I put these glasses on
Whoa, oh, yeah I made it myself
I went to home depot I am going to need a way different hairstyle if I'm going to be as effortlessly cool as bad bunny
I'll tell you that. Oh, luka died again for you
Dude, yeah, I got you. I totally accidentally flattened my hair too much. I looked like such a nerd
That fits the You're adorable
I'm gonna have better hair next time. I promise
Perm yeah, I like that idea brick paint. Oh
anyway, so
Yeah, it was honestly It was an amazing week
Did you know that during ces we hit our all-time highest reviews in a day?
We're like reviews in a day views. Okay. We are like
Killing it. Yeah, hell yeah I was on flippin tv
It was uh, okay Basically, I am I'm still kind of riding the high to be honest with you. It has definitely been a week of all time
Yes, one of one of the weeks. It has definitely been a week
What would I wear next time?
Because you know, it's got to be from creator warehouse, dude. We have some stuff coming that is
Very cool Should I don't even know should I go cool or should I go like our professional like our nine to five line?
But what do you think? Giant logos, I don't I don't think you need to start going
Professional on it. Well, okay. If you want to get out of the tech bro niche then maybe you should
I don't even think I'm like tech bro with my style. I'm just like I'm more like
Yeah, the guy who works on your cabling like I'm not really it's definitely geeky though
Yeah, fair enough if you want to get out of the like I am geek person
I come on here to be geek person The plane wants RGB fur coat. Okay, that is not happening
That would be cool if you want to be cool. I'd be pretty safe gb fur coat
You could have a little RGB cane made out of memory
rope belt dad hat
We wouldn't have to see your terrible hair. I mean flat hair. I mean good hair I didn't get the middle finger their crew is so much nicer than mine
Yeah, but we do it because we love you
Yeah, I don't know. I think I think it depends on the vibe of the episode that you're doing
If you're tech handler, yeah, then I don't know. We're geeky stuff. We're cool stuff
If you're trying to like I think you know what I think I if if
If I get the tap again, I am I think what I want to do for now is just
Do what they ask Because realistically I know my world and if they wanted to like come do a youtube video about technology
I'm sure that they would ask for guidance from me And so if if they want to do a tv segment, then I think I'll just keep doing what I'm doing which is
Hey, how do you want me to do this? You know, where's the edge in terms of humor?
Where's the edge in terms of like, you know roasting the host where
Because I asked a lot of questions in the lead up which is part of I think why I was so nervous because I was trying to
Remember the answers to my head because because I just I don't I don't know the vibe
I don't know what the proper etiquette is. Um, and like I said, they were so
Gracious and and so so helpful and so accommodating
Okay, yeah, let's move on though. Yeah new topic. Yeah. What do you want to talk about? Uh,
The switch do we talk about the switch? Let's talk about the switch. It's we have a full video coming tomorrow
As soon as possible. So it's going to be taking our saturday release slot
But it it will it will maybe come sooner depending on when the reviews are done
And like we're going to kind of step on the WAN Show's normal window to sit and get views with our switch to video
If as soon as it's ready But david put it together because of course it was david makes sense who who wrote it
And he tried to make it a little bit more in-depth than just
Here's a summary of what nintendo said in the announcement because you can't really make an eight-minute video
But a two-minute 22 second teaser Um, and instead what he did was he put together
A compilation of both what we know from the announcement and also what we
Probably know in sort of like a decreasing order of confidence
Interesting if that makes sense. Yeah, I like that. And so he managed to paint. Uh, what I think is is a really
Not complete because we don't know for sure and we don't normally report on rumor mill stuff
But what we can see is sources
That were somewhat validated By nintendo's video
So if they say yeah, it's gonna have this it's gonna have this it's gonna have this we see all that in the teaser
And they say oh by the way also this this this and this That adds credibility versus the sources that got a bunch of stuff wrong compared to nintendo's teaser if that makes sense
First question or is there oh, sorry. Sorry. Are we supposed are we supposed to do like a summary?
Uh, okay, do you want to read the thing? Sure. Yeah, uh in a very chill youtube video nintendo officially announced the
successor to the uber successful hybrid console Coming out this year their switch one shipped 146 million units
It was the third best-selling console of all time behind
In first place the playstation 2 and in second place the ds. They showed off the new grown-up aesthetic
I don't know what that means. It looked really similar to me new joy cons two usbc ports interesting backwards
compatibility for the most part and a new mario kart game
They also gave us april second 2025 as the date for the direct not the release date
But the direct where we will get more details
We're going to have our in-depth take with a breakdown of both the video and the rumors that announcement
blah blah blah everything Linus was just saying and then there's discussion questions
Discussion question. Yeah, will you buy one? Probably
Okay, so this I have a bone to pick with you
I saw that coming You talk a big game about thinking handheld pcs are cool
You never buy one nintendo releases something and you're like
Please daddy take my money. Please. Can you take my money?
I think with the switch There isn't going to be a new one for like what I don't know six years. So
with the steam the steam deck has had a
Three year life so far four years when the steam deck comes. Yeah, but then there's been the ally and there's been all these other things
So what? So what that's saved it didn't nintendo as a long life
Oh, but you know, it's not long because sega might make a handheld again. What are you even talking about?
To a certain degree. Yeah, like the idea that it's different stuff
Okay, I can play all the things that are going to be on one of the other handhelds on my pc
I mean nintendo might I will do that most about three and a half years for steam deck by the way
nintendo might not like me acknowledging this but you could certainly play
Lots of stuff on a handheld pc. I also don't do this
I mean, I actually don't I own I also I also want a switch and and it's just a better experience. Well. Yeah, that okay. This is fair
I only I only have a first-hand ally though and the battery life kind of sucks so much that I'd honestly kind of rather play on the switch
I also have the x like the rare switch that can do the thing
Which I haven't done But I do have the key that I made
Moving on those rare ones. Are those like the really early ones? Yeah, the early ones. Nice. I probably have one with you
Luke's not done yet though. Okay I
Depends on how much it costs. I might just not buy one because the the thing I was most excited about classic luke. Okay
it cost Wait, this costs money you offer latest thing I offer
zero dollars
I don't know it depends the the there was a there was a bunch of things that got me excited in the video
You know, I'm happy with a bigger screen. I'm especially happy about bigger controllers. My goodness
That was my biggest problem with the original switch with the controllers just two. I felt like I was doing this the whole time
They're too small So happy about both of those things
But honestly the like main thing that I was like, oh good nice was when they announced backwards compatibility
Because I still have a bunch of switch games I haven't played So like at that point do I just wait until I've played those?
And then get whatever I don't know They'll have some like cool version or an upgraded version or something down the line
Maybe I get that like I don't I don't know that I'll get it on release I think I think I have a backlog of like three different switch games that I still need to play so
I don't know. I'm in no rush. Wow luke being like I have a backlog of three games as though that's going to impress you guys
Come on. I have a lot more What's your what's your unplayed? What's your unplayed q look like you have to just give the switch one
All right, all right because I've I've way more than that on pc
You can't list someone says 700 games You can't list every game you have in steam because you're not going to play all of those
You have to be real with yourself when it comes to your backlog Are you actually going to play this if not get it out of there passionate don't lie to yourself
Why are you so passionate about this 700 game? No, you don't you're not you don't have a 700 game backlog prove it
Prove it now. That's fair. That's fair. I can't do that prove it
All right, um, you're gonna play that you're gonna play that game that you got on a humble bundle code literally like
15 years ago. I don't think so. I'm buying one too
Yeah, of course The screen honestly looks kind of too big though
Big look at my hands Oh, no, do we have the wrong problem? What do you think about the controllers?
I think the controllers are still gonna be okay because even I found the original switch small kind of crampy
Yeah, you know what I realized though is I bought an original switch
When I had my bottom wisdom teeth out
It had just Oh, it's not gonna line up the timing's not quite right. I was so close
I got an original switch and I started breath of the wild when I had my bottom wisdom teeth out because I knew that
I was going to be stuck in bed with absolutely nowhere to go and nothing to do
So I was like, oh, I'm I'm gonna get a switch and I'm gonna play breath of the wild
I am having my top wisdom teeth out on
Sunday or Monday And switch to announcement, but we were so close. We were very close
We were so close to me playing switch two when I got my top ones out
So nintendo releases new game consoles on a schedule that is
Approximately aligned with whenever Linus needs a major tooth extraction
Man, if you don't get another one, they're just never gonna release another console. Um
I Did I ever send you a picture of what I did during my wisdom teeth thing because I got bored?
I don't know. I remember you doing too much
Yeah, because you're luke. Yeah, that's a given. Got your thumbs up
I had uh Emma helped me with this actually, but she she wanted me to keep it just so I wouldn't have to like hold it there in bed
But we had like a scarf basically that we had put around my head to keep to keep the
ice packs
Looking like the old lady with the Yeah, so I just I just did like a a better version
Strapping it to my head essentially and then I found a way that my headphones could
Could fit over it and then instead of spending it all in bed. I just like sat at the computer and played games
With this contraption strapped my head
And it was awesome you are such a brilliant idiot
It was great imagine having such great mental capacity and using it for that
Much innovation. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Um our other question is what do you think the C button is for?
I've seen Uh, what are some of the camera is something that it stood for on previous nintendo consoles
It could be connecting like if they have like a wii u type feature where you can remotely stream it
I would love I would love if they bring back streaming
and there is one
Somewhat credible it seems pretty credible actually There's one credible rumor that would seem to suggest that they might because it looks like it's not a c-stick guys
No, yeah, it's not it looks like the ampere generation GPU that it allegedly might allegedly have
Is not equipped with an ampere generation media encoder
It has a newer one. Oh, and so the only reason that I could think of why you would bother with that
Yeah, is for either locally recording gameplay, which I don't know man. That seems kind of far-fetched to me
or Streaming yeah streaming wirelessly
I'd be pretty cool. I'd be into that interesting
Um, we've got a comment from dot justin in the Floatplane chat Linus get sammy to vlog your wisdom teeth
We are so far ahead of you. We have Really really guys
Oh, you don't even know dude. We can't even say really
What? Huh? Is there something I don't know about? Oh, I
No, I think I don't know. I'm just gonna stop
I don't know how much I can say without getting in trouble from somebody from somewhere. Oh, okay
I'm just gonna stop well. Anyway, uh, yeah, so sammy is apparently
Doing a vlog of me getting my wisdom teeth out. Yeah, and um, there's a major hardware release that
I will not be able to be involved in
And my understanding is that sammy will also be getting a clip of me
Um Participating in the only way that I can with my mouth all like swollen and and disgusting. That's what I was avoiding say
Oh, yeah, no, no, no, it'll be I won't I won't get say any more than that. It'll be basically
It'll be really funny Don't miss our video. Yeah. Yeah, but we will avoid making it actually just gross
So no sammy says in chat. Are you leaking about me sammy? Yes, sammy. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. Uh, okay. What else we got tick tock
Sorry, what does he want to do you want to do sponsors sponsors? Oh
How long have we been live?
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slash when All right, why don't we jump into some merch messages?
First let's explain what they are the way to interact with the WAN Show is of course through merch messages
Like that one and to send a merch message guys. You don't just throw money at your screen
We want to give you something in return. So you go to lttstore.com add something to the cart and
You'll see a little box pop up for a merge message. It'll go to producer Dan
There he is who will reply to you pop your message up down there or curate it
For me and lute to respond to look I do that every week That was a quick one. You set a record. Okay
Compilation of Dan doing the merch message wave when hand airspeed record. Yeah, I want to see
He's too fast
Sorry, I lost the plot wherever Do you want a merch message? I have my hands shaking. You know what? Why don't I do the announcements first? Yes?
For those of you who weren't tuned in at the beginning of the show We have delayed the launch of our mod mat not because it's not ready, but because of
Stuff I said previously on the show earlier on the show. Um, so we've gone with our backup launch, which is
Uh, this pin Here hold on Linus cam. There we go. Look at that
We heard you guys like backpacks So we made a backpack so you can put it on your backpack while you backpack that you could do that
But yeah, you could do I mean you technically you could put it on anything Um, it was designed by the one and only sarah, but and it can be yours for the low low price
Not including the wan cork board here of $249 and 99 cents
As part of our generous offer, we are also including
Oh An LTT backpack with your purchase of the pin that makes sense get it now at LMG.gg
slash backpack pin And just in case that went over anyone else's head not just luke
It's it's just it's a free exclusive pin with purchase of an og backpack while supplies last one
Oh Oh, finally our retro monitor pet caves are finally back our first stock
I forget how many was in our first order. I want to say like 400 units or something. I don't know it was gone in like
A day. Oh, it was more than that was like four grand more more what units. Yeah, it was a lot. No
No, I thought we went pretty low. No. Oh, maybe it was the second one. No, I think we went conservative
Anyway, they sold out 500 apparently. They sold out super fast
And then we went to reorder them and the top of production sample that we got back from the factory was
Unrecognizable it looked nothing like the first order
And that is why you do a top of production sample
Before you do the mass production So we have new ones in that look great
They are up to the standards of quality from the original one, which my cats absolutely love mine, too
It's got the same awesome pillow inside that has either a fuzzy side if you prefer softness or
An easier to clean Sleeker side if you prefer it being easier to clean and we hedged we hedged and for the sides
We went with the easier to clean material that goes inside
It has little dutes on the bottom to make it so it doesn't slip around as easily
I mean, you know realistically if your pet dives into it
It's still gonna move or whatever and it's designed to look like a retro crt monitor. It's so cute
Minor minor potential problem with the backpack pin
We have pin collectors that try to get all the pins that come up on the store
A lot of those pin collectors already own the backpack
Oh, do they have any friends who need a backpack? Well, I
I um I don't know how to deal with that. I don't know maybe
Uh, maybe we could hold some in tell you what I have no idea. Maybe just something to think about I offer
We hold a handful of them in reserve for the next pin drop
you offer Acceptance of that. Is that acceptable? Could we do that? I'll have to wait for okay for the pin people to
Yeah, Dan. Can you maybe um, can you maybe throw that a message at me at like a nick or something like that?
Could we maybe throw that at nick? Maybe we hold hold back like some and then we might go to arty for that
I don't know if we can because when I announced it. I said exclusive
So if I if I if that's the commitment then that's the commitment, um
I don't know guys. I I gotta let I gotta let maybe maybe just somebody consider it
I gotta let that team do their stuff. I know the the pin collectors can get pretty serious about pin collecting
I got it. I got to let that team do their strat care a lot about their pins. Okay
um Sheesh cheese
Okay, cool. Let's uh merch massage
One person had an idea that if someone has a backpack they could send proof of purchase and then we could make the pin available for purchase independently
um The problem is that I guarantee you we would sell out all of the pins to the people who already bought backpacks
And I know the idea behind this was that it's like an exclusive pin if you buy a backpack
Let me let the Let's pitch them the ideas and let's let the team make their uh decision. Okay. I I I can't involve myself in every decision anymore
And I can't just like step on their toes. I wasn't trying to get a solution immediately. Just okay. Maybe somebody cool
Nerdle says what about just for me?
That says every pin collector. Uh, what do you want to talk about a merch message?
Mm-hmm Right a curated merch message. Um
Damn, hey, uh, there are a little strange tonight. Let's see. Uh, what's your favorite reptile?
Oh
Frog Wait for it
No, is that a reptile? No, it's an amphibian. It's fine. It's uh
Lizard, I'm just I'm waiting for reddit to correct me. Um, let me think
No, not dinosaur. They're birds We think we're not sure
Mark Zuckerberg
He doesn't anymore he got the he got the 2.0 update. That's true. This is true. He hired a brand consultant finally
Yeah, and they even I should ask who this is and get his contact
Next time I appear on tonight's show if I get a chance Uh, why would mark be your favorite because it's a funny answer
Sometimes we give you guys a serious answer. Sometimes we just think of the most outlandish thing we can say and blurt it out
Yeah, and I'll let you guys sort out which one is which
I don't know. I'm looking into what I I I googled reptiles and one of the things that came up with
Was birds you googled reptiles. Yeah, I wanted to see a bunch of different examples google reptiles
Snake iguana, I know some of them But I was like what are what are some like random off the wall ones that I wouldn't necessarily think of I gotta say
I'm not really a reptile guy. This is why I googled it. Yeah, I um
I again, I know some example like I think I think they're cool
Which is cool. I had an iguana when I was a kid like we just
Ended up with one bike accident like someone was rehoming one because that's what tends to happen with them
And they don't they don't like um, they don't have like a mammal or like an avian
brain like they're like the social they don't have a
They don't have an instinct to to socialize with humans. They just
I mean, yeah, they're cold-blooded, you know
Um, they're they're not really very interactive from my experience. Although, I mean you hear snake owners that are super happy
They love they love their snakes and stuff. Mr. Mr. Dankpots. Um, yeah
Oh All right, mike d78
Linus isn't really a reptile guy. Does that mean he has a reptile dysfunction?
Can I ding other people? I think you can I think when it's that good you can ding the other you can ding the thing
You got to do it. All right Very good. Very good. Very good
I'll I'll go with uh, sea turtles skink
Okay, okay That's a pretty uh
That's a pretty uncontroversial take. Yeah, I'm gonna go with uh, especially the the ones from finding emo
So the ones that are like surfer dudes. Yeah, man, bro. Let's go. Fine. All right. I'm gonna go with red-eared slider
I'm gonna go with a much smaller turtle. Cool. Okay. Yeah, I actually also had a few turtles when I was a kid
Looking back, man, what didn't you have? We went through a lot of pets
I've heard a lot of stories of pets. I've never heard of that one
I don't know what happened to them. Um Like I I don't remember. No, I just don't remember like you don't eat them
Like it's this was at my dad's house when I was younger
this wasn't like on the farm where I had a pet goat and
Was tricked into eating it. No, that was a completely different thing. Yeah, you don't eat the good one
Yeah, so we had uh, we had shelly and
I want to say like Igor or something because I don't know. He had like a weird uh, was shelly the turtle
You know Anyway, I think there were either two or three and what I liked about them was we think of turtles as slow or at least tortoises anyway
Oh, yeah, dude, they can They Frickin rip
You ever seen a goldfish like swim kind of fast you ever seen a turtle
Reach out Bite down on it and then have the tail and head fall down on both sides of the mouth. No
I have wow. Yeah, they go dude. They go
They frickin go. What's the goldfish's name? Uh, no, no, they were feeder fish Goldie. No, no, they're feeder fish
You don't you don't name a feeder fish. What's your problem? What's wrong with you?
That would be terrible Someone probably doesn't
Uh Next one sure. Hey Linus I'm new to pc building and I instantly fell in love with it
But I want to actually understand how the parts work and I'm struggling to find good sources any recommendations for learning
Oh Ball sack. What's that? Uh, what's that channel that has those really cool animated deep decks?
Luke and I were talking about that the other week. I don't remember. I'm looking. It's pretty cool though
Branch education. That's the one Yeah, go check out branch education
Really really good, but but still accessible
Um pretty long form videos on the lake cool on the on the how does it actually work?
Because we'll give you a like a very high level what you need to know in order to select the right thing for your build
They get into like no really like like how does how does it how do they been a 3090?
It's great Very cool. Yeah, go check out go check out branch education. Pretty cool channel. Honestly, just all their stuff is sick. Yeah, really cool
Uh question for Linus Did anyone behind the scenes try to talk you out of wearing socks and sandals on network television on the contrary?
I was 50 50 Um, I would have had to replace my so the only two pairs of footwork footwork
Sorry, badminton on the brain the only two pairs of footwear that I own other than my badminton shoes
And my like rain boots and my hiking boots, you know, like like utility shoes
I have a pair of dress shoes, but they're like super basic
Are my vessi so I have my sandals and I have my vessi's those are the only two like daily driver footwear
Is that I have but my vessi's are
Skuffed you've had for a long time. Uh, yep. Yep. So are those the ones you wore to Tiffany's this is primer
Yes, I wore these to Tiffany. All right. Well, yeah, we didn't get to see them when you're talking about that. That's paint
And oh no, that's primer. Uh, this is from uh priming james's like like writing lead
Uh james's kitchen cabinets We were he he asked very nicely to use my new fancy sprayer and my spray booth and then um, I ended up, um
I didn't well, I didn't no no no no no He did most of it after like the first day, but I was like I like showed him how it works and I was like
See you later. He's like Uh, okay. Okay. I guess I'm helping get things going
But that's what you know what you know what it was actually fun because people don't ask me
People never ask me to like help them move or like
Do guy stuff together like when they have a you know a project that needs to be done even you don't do it
I don't you need much. Okay. That's true. Um, anyway. Oh man, these things these things are terrible
Look at the bottom. I am fairly certain that it used to say vessi somewhere on the bottom
I can't even imagine where I don't see it at all
Oh here it is Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you can tell because the trial is right there. That makes sense
That used to say that used to say vessi. It just looked particularly more worn than the rest of you
Yeah, you can really see you can really see my uh, I'm sure I'm sure
Ah, man, every time I get like I get medical analysis of like anything that I taught
I'm sure that the foot experts out there are definitely are sending me sending me dms on the forum right now
You should get some well You probably don't actually have this problem that much because of your my gait your sandal usage
But I've been trying to look into like wide toe box shoes. Anyways, that's a whole anyway. I was on the fence
I was 50 50. I was like, there's no way I can wear these on the show. I would I don't have time to get new ones
So I'd have to just like go go get something in the morning. I don't want to do that to vessi to be honest
Um, you have right. Yeah, it's not really fair. And then I was like but realistically like
I don't know. It's kind of part of the shtick It's kind of part of the character to do the socks and sandals thing because I unironically
Do really like that style of footwear. Well, I don't like the style. What I like is the comfort
Um, you know, they're they're comfortable. They're warm enough, but super breathable
Nothing beats the breathability of a completely open shoe. And then it was actually nick light
Uh, the creepy warehouse nick who was like If you don't do it, I'll riot
So I was like, okay. All right, let's go nick and then and then obviously I wanted to put on the prototype socks
So that they're they're really good that I don't know if they're done done
But they're we're getting there They aren't the same as my darn tuffs
But what they are is also extremely good in slightly different ways. Sure. And uh, and I'm I'm I'm pretty excited
Are you going with the like it has to not be worse?
Yeah, I don't expect to beat them darn tough makes
Outstanding socks and I would never say a negative thing about the quality of their product
Period regardless of whether we're a competitor or whatever and right now we're not but we'd like to be
But that that doesn't change the fact that they make a darn good sock
Um and tough
Do it it applies to him too
Give me Dan Holy schnikeys. Are there ever a lot of merch messages? I think we're doing I think we're doing another one too
What the heck are you people buying are they all pins? There are lots of pins. Oh, all right. That makes sense
I'd like another one dude People like pins I can see that
Um, people also like precision screwdrivers and bitcases
And northern lights desk pads. Well, actually there's a lot of variety today. Interesting
Oh peck peck caves. Yeah peck caves. Get them peck caves couch potato hoodies. Okay. Yeah, I'm just curious. All right
Okay, Dan hit me Hey, lld last week you mentioned we're moving away from common GPU framework that all vendors could use
What an open standard that could make use of invidia tensor and AMD Intel cores be possible
Well, I think like we've seen in the past
We're going to start with like we saw with gsync. For instance
We're going to start with vendor proprietary implementations and then over time
We're going to watch the rest of the industry play catch up and at such point as they play catch up well enough
The proprietary standard will become meaningless and go away. That is kind of
Our best case scenario It's like it's like with a lot of this stuff, right? Like ai right now
Everybody's talking about ai all the time to the point where it gets incredibly exhausting and annoying
Eventually that will just be part of the product. Like I don't think
Every single thing is called smart anymore because it's like just kind of assumed. Okay
I did a retake on a video recently because I referred to my phone as a smartphone and I was like
What am I talking about? Yeah, what is a not smartphone? Yeah
Sorry, okay, redo. Let's redo the clip
I didn't even think about it until that very moment, which was I think in the last week or two
So it's funny that we're talking about this so close to it. That is pretty interesting. Yeah, you don't say smart tv
Yeah, you don't say smartphone. Well, and I've been I've been seeing you know, you see ads
Especially coming off of ces you see all these things that are claiming like now with ai features
And it's like this will be really cool when that goes away
And it like will because eventually that's not going to be exciting
It's not going to be a selling point because you're all going to have the same baseline level of that
Junk and then you're going to have to find something else to be the selling point and everyone will move on
You know what I figured out though Is in a way
I actually I think I get it a bit more get what the inclusion of that ai. Yeah, it's got ai. It's got ai
It's with ai right now. It makes sense. Well Even even even if the ai like doesn't really do that much because you know what it does
Is it tells you at a glance that this is the new one?
If everyone is calling their latest product this ai
Then if you throw ai on your latest product model name
You don't have to rely on everyday average consumer to know if the thinkpad
x 2695 mark 4 is the latest thing
You just need to know. Oh, it's it's the new ai one. That's all that's all you need to know and I guess
From just like a completely normie branding standpoint
I get it. That's rough even if it irritates
Me the like tell me how many stream processors are in it and how much cash it has guy
Doesn't really care about that the worst version of that was when everything was called one
That's not over. I didn't like x It's terrible piss me off because a lot of people skipped nine to go to x
And then they expect you to say 10 Yeah, I refuse one is still a thing though
Like Dan, what's your phone called mine is the one
Five and they just know it's the one v because the second part of the numbers in the roman numerals
But they also have the five so it's the five five and the five's the bad one
Sony man get it together. What are they doing? Get it together, sony with your xperia phones
We got um aggressive 99 asking badminton hall update when
Actually big news. Oh the replacement floor has arrived. Uh, uh on this 16th
So yesterday yesterday ta on them being in then. I don't know but
I would like to I would like is it march
I would like to do a shout out Why what's happening in march? I think I've called us for like a year and a half
Dad's been saying it's gonna be march this year bastard for like at least a year
I think when we started last year in january
I would like to call out shout out. I would like to shout out
Calibre sport systems. Um, these guys are the installer for our floor
We obviously had the quality issue with the initial product. Yeah, but I have had so many contractors
Make that my problem over the years And these guys to their credit
Have not breathed a word About any kind of additional labor charge in spite of the enormous amount of extra work that it's going to be to uninstall one of their things
And then reinstall Some other product that we ordered separately. They gave me a very fair
Credit for the material that we weren't using Um, and they're not done yet
But they have acted in such good faith that I just wanted to I just wanted to show them out as one of the first
like Contractor companies that I have encountered here in the lower mainland that does not seem to f*** around. So, um, yeah
Thanks guys Shout out appreciate you
They've been so communicative and about like getting on site and coordinating with the delivery of the of the new flooring material and everything
So we're really excited to be open open. We, um, we launched our memberships on the 14th
So memberships are active. We have, uh
Okay, I don't know if I should give we have a lot of members immediately, which is pretty exciting
We did a founding membership, um a founding membership deal at a discount and just to get some momentum
And I'm I'm very excited about it. It's going to be awesome
All right. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Uh, real rea felloo says, uh, why is the backpack an animal pin $250
It oh no, they figured it out. They figured it out
Linus comes with a better Comes with a backpack
Okay, uh, what are we supposed to be doing right now? Uh, you should probably do the rest of your topics. Oh topics
Yes, and then we'll do merch messages after that. Okay, so I have a bamboo Labs printer
Other than mistakes that I have made that have made it not work as well
It has been fairly reliable. So basically what I'm trying to say is I've spent a lot of time fixing it
But it's mostly on me. Um, I have my setup like locked in right now and my kids
Love it, especially my eldest daughter. She is
Constantly on the bamboo printer. Uh, her latest thing is printing out things to paint
Oh, that's cool. Yeah, super cool. That's actually I don't think I've seen a ton of examples
That's such a good idea. That makes a ton of sense Yes, it's thanks. So she'll she'll print out things and she'll so she she printed out a bunch of flexi cats
And painted them like all of our cats. Oh, that's with Yvonne and her sister
Anyway Anyway, she's having a blast with it. Oh my god, can she paint our birds?
I don't see why not. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah message message my son
You you have him on on social. Well, not now, but like I just mean whenever just my brain is a sieve
I will forget this I'm sending you a scheduled message. Oh, thanks, Dan. So bamboo
Bamboo, this is not cool Um, I just want to shout out. Uh, nick johnson in the bamboo lab subreddit
Uh, who put together what I think is such
a succinct thorough respectful post
About what a big deal it is that bamboo Labs is removing third party printer access
if What's up? What does that mean? Basically what it means is that you will not have the ability to use third party software such as orca slicer or panda touch
It will not be able to connect directly to your printer. That's icky. This is well, it's icky and it's also
according to bamboo Labs to um, help with authentication on the printer to avoid any kind of
Remote access by a malicious third party to the camera, for instance, or to print to your printer
this Seems like they could have implemented it better if they weren't rushing and in such a way that it doesn't break this
compatibility But what what nick johnson encourages people to do and this is why I like his post so much is he doesn't just wine
I can't believe i'm on reddit right now What you can do about it
Don't update your printer's firmware. They will likely be tracking installation counts. Make it clear. You won't run this firmware
Contact bamboo Labs politely express your concerns using their support portal and you actually provide some templates for you to
Copy paste what your concerns are Vote with your wallet stop buying bamboo Labs consumables and consider alternatives
until they reverse course
Withdraw your support on maker world and spread the word
So this is so professional. Yeah, this is a person working communication. I don't know but uh, but shout out and
I agree I will not be updating my printer because I love having convenient unauthenticated remote access and it sits in a room where I
Quite frankly couldn't care less if somebody's looking at the camera of what i'm printing
Um, so that's that's my that's my stance on it. I don't believe they can force an update
I just hope my kids don't accidentally do it. I'll have to after remind them of that
And that's how I ended up with Windows 11 on my vipc
And like it broke a bunch of driver stuff Kids like thank you microsoft for your update freaking dark patterns
Anyway, uh, so yeah, I wanted to get that one out there. That was just a quick round dimension. What else we got today
Ooh Do you want to get into like a main top? Oh my goodness. We have so many topics left luke tick tock. What are we gonna do tick tock?
Yeah, sure Goodbye tick tock today january 17th the supreme court unanimously upheld the federal ban of tick tock starting sunday the 19th
It's coming very soon Since it failed to be sold to an american-based company
The origin of the ban was concerns over security risk due to its ties to china. Well
Sorry with white house press secretary. Ooh
kareen jean pierre Saying tick tock should remain available to americans
But simply under american ownership or other ownership that addresses the national security concerns identified by congress in developing this law
president elect donald trump has expressed interest in looking into this and possibly reverting the ban once he takes office
The app also will not be deleted from phone similar to this is a side note
But similar to flappy bird back in the day Yeah, remember if you had a phone that had flappy bird. Yeah, it was like worth more money on evening
Yeah, you could sell it like an old like ipod or whatever you could yeah where we might literally have that again
Um, which is kind of wild, but we'll see so yeah
I won't be deleted from phones, but it will be removed from app stores receive no more updates and the us base servers and connections will be
Oh, whoa The us base servers and connections will be disconnected on january 19th
Okay, interesting. I don't know how much that's gonna matter
It's probably fine Canadian data server is gonna go hard
Burr. Yeah Anyways, uh as a result in the last week
Xiao hong shu Red note aka red note skyrocketed to number one on the us app store as tick tock users migrated over in preparation for the tick tock ban
So I want to jump in with a little insert here I was talking to andy from our team who's been on red note for a while and he
Absolutely loves it. He showed me a bunch of really cool features. Um, the the browse functionality is
Honestly, really cool. You can like browse by uh by interests and stuff like that
Up at the top level, uh, the ability to uh, you can post more than just videos like you can post videos
But you can live stream. Uh, you can post text along with your video
You can post pictures like you can kind of post anything on it. Um, and the discussion
Uh, the discussion functionality under the posts is really rich. You can interact with other people's posts. You can post pictures
Um, oh wow in the in the discussions. Yeah, and there's thread like thread based discussions. Um, it's it's it looks very interactive
if only The end user license agreement didn't basically
Wasn't much worse than tick tock
I was reading through a summary of it and it's like
Basically, you just yield everything to the to the chinese communist party like, okay
Sure, excuse me. Communist party of china. Sorry, uh, president. She sorry
um Anyway, carry on. I saw I saw some some, uh, some joke about the north american users
Ignoring the to s for for red note. Um, just like
Oh well, uh, anyways
Okay, let's see. Yeah, as tick tock users migrated over in preparation with the tick tock band with some people even making a joke about
Moving to an even more chinese app. Um, saying things like I signed up
Specifically so the ccp can get their data
Elijah says my favorite comment on this so far was
Realistically tick tock hasn't had my sin phone number address email bank teal details or insurance details leak
Whereas every american app has so as far as i'm concerned the ccp can have it
At least they're taking better care of it. That's funny But actually I I don't support that
No, it is right. We were making we were making hee hee ha ha's. Um,
Unfortunately, this migration has bothered some of the existing user base
Okay, i'm gonna add some editorialization to this in a second, but unfortunately
I'm gonna say what it says Unfortunately, the migration has bothered some of the existing user base with red note even releasing an update to allow filtering of ip's
Which could block off chinese americans from trying to connect back home with family or friends
I have also heard that it's actually been super wholesome as well
There's been a lot of like friendly bonding over it
I'm sure i'm a hundred percent certain some people are bothered. They just
This community of people that used an app Just got plowed over by this massive wave of people diving and be like, what is this?
What's happening here? What's going on? And that's gonna be fun for some people It's not gonna be fun for other people, but there was like there was uh americans helping chinese people with their english homework
There was like all this like just asking questions back and forth like really interesting conversations
Don't ask me how I know, but orphaned communities
Um can can often be very warmly received by the users of the uh of the
Orphanage of the absorbing community. Yeah, um like for instance, I have heard tell that um private trackers
That get shut down will sometimes be
Adopted by other private tracker communities. I don't know. It's uh, it's like a weird Linux thing
Don't really know anything sharing isos and yep. Yeah
Uh anyways american social media apps want users though with substack even offering a
$25,000 tick tock liberation prize to users who post the best
Tick tock to inspire people to join substack
Sure, I don't think that's gonna happen bruh Uh, but anyways
Nice try There's a lot of discussion questions here, but realistically, I don't think we're gonna get into does banning a communication app
Go against the whole point of the first amendment. We'll let the americans sort that out. Good luck america not even our country
So have fun. See you later. We have enough problems of our own right now
Should should I run should I run for prime minister? Well, I just unplugged myself, but yeah, do it do it do it
Then you can sign linustown into law Yeah
No, canada will just become linustown our currency isn't gonna be worth anything anyways pretty soon
So you can just Linus coin can just take over the cad. Okay the great white tips. Okay
Hear me out great white north
If If the us proposal for absorbing us hold on hold on
If that just hold on listen to me if the us proposal for absorbing us because realistically
I mean trade deal mode. I mean most of the states seem to operate like their own bloody countries anyway
Yeah, is that the point? So if we were if we were formally
All individual states Okay, so we're the 51st 52nd 53rd, etc. If we were all individual states hold on hold on hold on
With our own state constitutions. Are they actually numbered sorry to
No, I don't think so Is there an order? Is there an official order? I don't know. I don't believe so. I'm not an american geography major
Okay, okay. Hold on. Hear me out. Hear me out. So if we were all individual states with our own state constitutions
Like they have okay. Yep And the deal was hey if you don't do a rebellion very much
We will trade your canadian dollars one to one for us dollars
As part of making you formally american I
Rate your warmth about the idea on a scale of one to ten
For myself like I'm fine
so zero That would probably be really good for a lot of people though. The like genuinely canada's economy is in the
Disgusting dumps like it's and it's really bad and basically every indicator
We have is that it's probably going to get worse before it gets better for quite a few years
And we have no indication of what could be coming in the future that will make it better none
Like it's it's horrible. We're propped up by real estate
In much the same way that the chinese economy was for a long time and
We just have nothing else going for it though. Yeah, like they they did
Yeah, they were the world's shopping mall, right? Everyone buys things from china
Um Yeah, I don't I'm not going to go into all that but it would it would honestly save like a lot of people
I don't know. I've had this same thought but Kind of different like have you have you seen he's kind of postured to everything that's near him right now
So that he's looking at greenland canada mexico, right? Just I don't know if I just spin around in a circle
what are my arms hit um and
Cuba have you looked at no not us again That's 11 place we're finally left out. Um pop you I mean that's sort of their whole issue
Greenland I can't I type yeah, so I looked this up
This is what is this google trends a population of greenland greenland is growing like crazy
Oh, no, it's flat. No, it's really flat. Oh, no, it's super flat. Sorry. I didn't realize the timescale. I was looking at
There's also I thought I was looking at like the last couple years Wait, there's only 56,000 people in the whole place
So, okay, it's not as big as it looks on your flat map though. That is something to consider
Yeah, yeah, canada also isn't either but greenland gets that like real hard when you when you scale greenland down it
Yeah, it's big, but it's not as big as it's not as big as you think but still 56,000 people
He could he could if it came I don't think it would really yeah, uh because it's denmark, right?
But um, if it came down to a vote of people in greenland
Not in denmark. You could definitely just like
Hard buy everyone There's only 56,000 of them. You could like how much would it cost to make all of the millionaires?
56,000 million dollars than what you would expect to buy a country
Yeah, I mean I guess but I mean buying countries and stuff like was a thing
It's not like the us didn't buy a lot of the land that is now currently the united states of america. Yeah, however legit those deals
Well, that's
Not a us geography and also not a us history major. So yeah, maybe don't listen to us
Um, but yeah, I just I think it's there's really not that many people like there's more people and there's way more people in Langley
I know you haven't done the math So how how much money do you actually think that is to make every person in greenland a millionaire?
Don't don't no no. Did you what were you what would did you have in mind 5.6?
So it's 56 billion 56 billion. That's a lot of money. That's one factor off. I mean realistically. Is it for the states?
I mean is money even real? American like yearly is money even real for america. That's uh, that's
Yeah, it's not that big of a deal. That's five times what Jeff Bezos made in 2024. See that's why that's why I'm going to the gold standard with my personal finances
Oh, you won my vote. There you go. I will no longer be dealing in paper money from here from here on out
Oh, you're just gonna gold brick people
Hey, I need to buy my land plane. Here's a brick of gold
Oh Anyways, yeah, federal but what's funny for 2022 was 6.5
6.75 trillion. Okay, they'll probably handle it. Okay. I think they'd be I think they could buy that a million dollars
You know, what's funny one of the Porsche dealerships that I was talking to when I bought my tycan
um Told me that they like regularly deal in all kinds of
Like like not legal tender things Whoa, like like yeah, you could if you brought in if if you could have the assayed value
Proven or whatever like they'd basically take anything for payment. I was like what what?
Or was it was it Porsche or was it another brand? I don't remember but yeah, I did encounter a car dealership once that like
brought up Un unprompted that they would take gold for payment. I was like, are you kidding me so I could buy a car with the balloons
People are yelling at me about american things. I don't know dude. I don't care. We're canadiens
So it's like look at the american debt clock. I don't even know what that is. It's crazy
You don't know what the debt clock is. Oh, this thing's crazy. Hold on. Hold on the debt clock. We trust me guys
We have so many So many problems up here real time. We gotta look at ourselves for a little while real time
Kevin's got some work to do. Okay. Here we go. This is money gained value
Okay, I don't know. I don't know what can I can I make this go away? I just want to see the debt clock
It looks like you installed all the browser parts. Okay, whatever the point is here
So, um, you can watch the debt per citizen and you can watch the us national debt go up
So that just ticked over a million dollars
Um
Let's just wait for the rest of this million. So we've done half a million dollars since I said a million dollars
Like they they do they do have some challenges as well. They do have some challenges as well. There you go. There's another million dollars
It's wild Yeah
Yeah, good luck america, but at that point where I want 56 billion more
It's just by a whole country. Can you imagine the amount of minerals that are under that huge punkarock?
Uh, maybe there's some, ah, I don't know. I don't know. Don't don't say it. Maybe they'll hear you
Don't say it Oh
You guys do know what he's doing, right? This is all the distraction. So they don't come for canada
Alberta
No rats, that's it. It's just mountains and uh, and and then less mountainous areas. Yeah, this is you want to hear
interesting canada facts map map of
Rats in the world. Is that gonna? Yeah. Yeah, that's that's the best canada fact. Oh, dude. Yeah here luke laptop global rat distribution
There's just So where it's completely freezing cold, there's no rats and then randomly there's just this
Little thing there because for some reason one of our provinces just doesn't they they eradicated rats
They they went hard. It's super hard. They did the like australian emu war
But they did it against rats and they won. Yeah, they actually eliminated
Rats from the province of alberto, which is hilarious
Insane so so well you guys are cool story. It's a cool rabbit hole rat hole american things a rat hole sounds like a way worse thing than a
Rabbit hole. Yeah, have you heard of it? What is it called a rat king? No? Yeah, those are sad rat king rat king
Yeah, you don't actually want to like show this on screen um
A rat king is a collection of mice or rats whose tails are intertwined and bound together in some way
They get like stuck And they're like climbing over each other whatever their tails get tied together and then they get stuck and they can't work out of it
And it's like actually horrible. They just died. Yeah. Oh, so you end up finding this like being such a bundle of
I don't know This is why we have to get rid of them. Yeah
Alberta cured the world They led the way
Yeah, Linus media group has started posting our internal 3d printing designs. Oh, that's good news. That's a good good idea
Yeah, let's go with that. So I asked for this like over a year ago
Anyway, it takes time it takes time for us to compile things and have someone take the lead
This is not a revenue generating activity So just because I ask for it doesn't mean that people are like
I will immediately work on this because it's the most valuable thing I can do. I get it people prioritize
But it is something that I have followed up on
Sometimes because we design all this cool stuff CPU holders screwdriver holders all kinds of stuff and uh, I someone said rat kings are a myth
I'm gonna decide that is a fact and just move on. Okay, cool. Um, so we design all kinds of cool stuff
And then we just we just sit on it. We do nothing with it. We have no like
Universal repository for it to make even for us internally to make it easier to find all of these design files. Where's the rest of our stuff?
We're working on it. Okay. So so anyway, it's finally there printables.com at Linus tech tips. So we've got the
magnetic cable management power bar screwdriver holders. So it's got the
Basically, it's got the little keyhole in the back so that you can put our magnetic cable management on it
And you can just attach your screwdriver to anything metal. Yeah, just pretty cool. We've got um
The desk pad tester. I mean, yeah, sure. Why why not? Uh, our hot air rework station tip rack
Uh, we've got our sonos connect amp wall mount. That was a dandy. I did that one. I'm very proud of that
We've got our fiber insulation wall mounting plates. These are super cool. These are from uh, jakes video where we
Acoustically treated the server room. Those are sick. It'd be kind of cool for us to include. Oh, yeah, so there you see you can see
It's uh, it's driven into the stud behind it and then it holds the insulation onto the wall
And then we put a duvetine and then we have this metal plate here So you just put a ring magnet on it to hold the duvetine or to hold the uh, the fabric in place over top of it
That was from before we launched mcm. So we just had buckets and buckets of ring magnets
Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, so we have a bunch more stuff that we're going to be adding over time
People are already remixing them, which is super exciting for me. I think that's super cool. I want us to be
I want us to be part of that
Part of that culture, you know, I want us to contribute. Yeah, there's always a bunch of lab stuff
So we do this too. That's cool. Spurger and float plate chat said there's more. There is more
Um, I know of at least a few Um, I have so many
Yeah, because we have the the CPU trays the CPU trays. They're all individualized. We have the RAM trays
We've got all the random garbage I've done Oh, I bet you they're trying to figure out how to do things like the individualized stuff
I don't know. Oh, no, no, they're all like, you know, we're just stls
Yeah, but like Filing them nicely
I guess maybe maybe you just like name them name them. Yeah, maybe that's it
I don't know. Dang it. I'm I'm just trying to figure out why they wouldn't be up, but
I'm trying to find a effort
Fair Would you want me spending a few hours uploading? No, no, there you go
It's not you didn't do this, right? There we go Took me a while to find it because this may surprise you, but the subreddit is um, pretty active right now
A little a little busy. Yeah, they're doing stuff Check this out. Are they being cordial? Somebody already remixed it to go on the the Ikea walnut thing. Oh, nice
That's awesome. A lot of people have those. So that's probably good
Yeah, so I want to I want to see more of that kind of stuff. I'm like, yeah, I don't know
It's cool. It's ever since I remember I think I was I think I was sitting in the creator warehouse engineering area
Um, and I was looking at someone had created like a really cool holder for
I don't even think it was for a finished product. It was for like keeping track of the parts for an in-progress project and I was like
We designed so much cool like 3d printed crap that and I know you designed that there's no way that you downloaded something that specifically like
And and they're like, oh, yeah, it doesn't take that long and I'm like, right, but it takes a long time for people who aren't you
So we should release this stuff. This would be so cool. So we're finally freaking doing it and I'm really excited about it
Yeah, that's okay. What else are we talking about? What do you want to talk about next?
Oh, it says we plan to publish a new model at least once a quarter. So the next one would be sometime in March
Oh, we could we could do them faster than that you guys send it
Oh Well, okay. Well, I will advocate internally for us to hurry our butts up and get more stuff up there. Okay
Send it. I want the CPU holders up there people have asked for them so many times signed it
It's anyone is anyone watching from the whoever's working on this? No, I don't see anyone in chat. Okay, cool
Linus's a plus certification was ripped right directly out of his hands. He was holding onto it. No
Denied three months after our video on comptia's a plus exam was removed from youtube and flow plane
Linus's a plus certification was finally revoked
We received an email from piercing views
Credly digital credential service late last week and confirmed it via comptia's verification website
We can check for ourselves live on the show if you guys would like here we go
Watch it be reinstated. They'll be genuinely. Okay
FMK are you a robot? Uh, no, but the type the code. Oh, oh balls
Well, there's your problem No robot could be this stupid. So I'm sure this will work this certificate. Oh, no longer valid. Oh
The tonight show is going to be embarrassed Bringing on a tech guy tech person on who doesn't even have who doesn't even have a plus certification from non-certified from comptia
non-certified fail Absolute failure
That's rough Well, hey, we are coming up on the five-year anniversary of the i'm thinking of retiring streams. So
It's over now. Maybe I only needed to think about it for just five years. Unfortunately. It was forced and then I'll be right
You know what? Sorry. I'm coming back to this night show again because I gotta say
I feel actually kind of invigorated by it
I feel like it's an opportunity for us to get for us to share that like
Like real real tech s***. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah with a with a completely new audience and uh
I find that really exciting. That's cool. Yeah. Anyway, nice. Um, I'm thinking of doing
A five-year update stream or five-year update video. I've been kind of putting it off. I've had a lot on my mind lately
You don't say yeah, um Sammy wanted me to do it as a short. I'm like sammy. No, I'm like sammy. How am I supposed to do this as a short?
He's like, don't worry. I'll cut it down. I'm like sammy. It's if I do like a what how I've been feeling for the last five years
You're not gonna be able to cut it down to three minutes. He's like, I think I could do it. I'm like sammy
No, we're not shooting this today. He tried to get me to shoot it today right before my end show
Sammy, I love you dude, but uh, he's trying to hit his quotas man. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, he's dude
Dude, it's a hustler. I had to talk to him at CES about not, uh
Biting off too much sometimes. He's a hustler. He's a hustler. Yeah, he's a hustler and he works hard for the float playing community
He really does. I think he genuinely like cares about the float. He does a lot. I seem in the comments all the time
Yep. Yep. No. No. Love sammy. There was I was I was looking through the comments on one of my show tour videos
Which I had a actually a lot of fun filming. Oh, yeah, that's uh, these these are these are hilarious, dude
You watched it. I was watching. I was watching. This is probably my when I when I left off
Someone sent me this sammy just bashing that robot was so funny
Okay, that was a good one. Wait for it. Yeah, that's the one that you did wait for it. Wait for it
Boom Did he even touch the ball? I don't think so. What's this robot worth? I think it's a hundred grand
Feed it. Uh, but yeah in that video I was going through the comments and I saw this like disparaging comment about sammy
So I was about to respond to it to be like, hey like what the heck and then I realized it was sammy
I was like, oh, okay. All right. You know, whatever. Yeah, he's got a very uh, he's got a very self. Um, self deprecating
Yeah, self deprecating sense of humor
Okay, so my A plus certification has been revoked. This is cool, man. I love it when this kind of thing happens
What is this? Um, also also spotted on the subreddit
Audient this seems like the kind of thing Dan would have heard of Dan. Do you know audience?
Oh my goodness, I'm on the wrong audio output boop-a-doop boop boop boop
It sounded cool though. Yeah, that definitely got my attention
So they did a promotional video for a new audio interface with a lot of inputs and a lot of outputs
Yeah, are they still relevant? I don't know They're relevant to me. Check this out
Wait for it. Wait for it All this in one you rackspace
Whoa, what's that? Yo
Let's go Because you know you know that these guys are not a big enough company that they like went and sourced an LTT backpack
To specifically feature it probably just like the guys there one of them just has the LTT bag
It was like I have a backpack that it will fit in I got this cool like backpack that fits all the tech stuff. Why don't we put it?
Very cool. I think I have a bunch of their vintage gear. Very cool
So I I don't know much about their products or anything. I don't I don't do that world very much
But definitely appreciated. Uh, mr. rubber ducky 99 for spotting that in their id 48 audio interface promotional video
I used to use their uh microphone preamps. They make some amazing stuff
So you could you you could spot the extra riveted top handle as well as of course the orange internals
Yeah, very cool. Uh, should we do the our review embargoes bad thing? First, we should do discussion question
How's it feel to see cw slash LTT products just popping up in unexpected places? It's so cool. I love it
And I usually end up seeing the screwdriver. The backpack is also cool. I don't know why it surprises me that much
like we've sold Literally, I mean this in a literal sense hundreds of thousands of screwdrivers at this point like they are out there
We have sold tens of thousands of backpacks at this point. They're out there
But it still tickles me because I'm just like no way
You know like it's cool. It's cool. I watch a bunch of like, uh, diy content and stuff on youtube
Um, I mentioned earlier. I don't watch tv. I do watch a heck in youtube for sure. Um, and every once in a while
You know, they'll pull one out and I'll just be like, oh and you can tell like it's worn
Yeah, it's like nice. That's what I like to see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, all right. You you've actually used this a bunch
Yeah, because you got it and you're just like
Damn, damn. Damn. He's nice. I love it
Uh, you're you say our buffalo says does it make you feel like a real company? Yeah
in a big way because between like like doing the sponsorships and stuff like that where we've actually like sponsored creators
Between seeing people just in the real world just freaking using it one of my favorite posts that I see is
I am a x technician
Here's my driver with X thing that I work that I'm working on right now in the background and we see people posting planes and boats and
All manner of machinery and it's it's super cool. It's super cool
What? Mempucor Mempucon said more screwdrivers than people in Greenland. Oh by a long shot
We might have sold about as many backpacks as people in Greenland
So we could have we could have equipped the entire country of Greenland, but no
Not quite. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah if we count the commuter bag I think we've sold enough backpacks to equip everyone in Greenland. Nice
We're not going to do that because I'm not the american government and I can't just print money, but
Well, I guess And does
Nice our printer works very well as well
Both countries have fantastic printers. It's not worth as much. So all things considered. We have to overclock our printer by about
44% extremely high performance
Very cool, um Our review embargo is bad. Okay, so I saw
I've or rather not I saw but I have observed a trend a trend that seems to be picking up steam
And I noticed a lot in our coverage at CES this year of people feeling like and expressing their feeling
That review embargoes or or basically
Literally anything other than all the information all at once
is Like unethical like like it's it's scummy. It's it's awful
And so I guess what I what I want to talk about is
Why information embargoes do exist and the pros and cons for all of the various parties involved
There are definitely cons and I think they are sometimes abused by companies
Um, so it depends on I as we go through this one of the nuances to keep in mind is how they're used
Absolutely the the idea of one embargo for one product is not always how it goes
It's actually depending on what company it is. Sometimes that's very far from the reality
Yeah, we've had we've called out NVIDIA in the past for taking one one GPU and saying, okay
Here's the embargo for the announcement. It exists. Here's the embargo. Okay. I'm exaggerating a little bit
Okay, I'm gonna add some extras, but multiple embargoes for one product. So I'm not gonna say NVIDIA anymore
I'm just gonna say we have had companies Give hit us with variations of down or we okay. Sorry. Just taking a screen cup hit us with variations of
Here's the embargo for that. It exists at all. Here's the embargo for the basic specs
Here's the embargo for some new technology that it supports or a or a deeper dive
Here's the embargo for the unboxing. Here's the embargo for performance analysis
It's like, okay, that's clearly because you're trying to milk content. You yes, you're trying to extend the news cycle as long as possible
essentially asking the media to do free advertising for you because a lot of that stuff is not really asking them to do any
Like input anything. They're just repeating what you've told them because that's the only information they have
However, that doesn't always mean that that's a bad thing
A lot of the time what happens with a show like ces because it happens on
These days
Is that companies aren't fully ready yet
This may surprise you but companies are made up of people who like you
State up late playing video games sometimes and missed a deadline sometimes or ran into a challenging problem sometimes
and You know what the one that they have at ces on those days
Might be held together by wood screws and duct tape
And it might not be ready to be benchmarked like
Honestly, I was kind of I was kind of taken aback
When NVIDIA allowed us to game on the 5090
At all Yeah under any circumstances
When AMD allowed us to game on the ryzen ai max plus
At all the fact that AMD let me pick the game
Yeah, that was pretty wild. I was I was blown away. That's not normal
None of that is normal. That was that was pretty that was pretty cool of them
To to take this usually you can't even like open the setting screen let alone change settings
Let alone change the game etc to take this pre-release not
Not fully, you know ready for consumer prime time stuff and let us let us show it early
Demonstrates a lot of confidence and actually a relatively high degree of openness and then to kind of see this
I don't know this sentiment that was pervasive in the comments that they were
Scummy for not letting us do more. It's not a performance review
And even if they did let me do everything that I could possibly want to I don't have time
Yeah, like I've got I've got maybe an hour especially to have proper rigor. Well. Yeah, exactly
So, I don't know and realistically they gave us enough they gave us enough
That we were able to give you guys something, you know, especially the ryzen ai max
The fact that we could play that game at all and and like don't go conspiracy theory guys
I saw people being like yeah that scene they picked that scene because it's relatively light
No, I picked that scene because I haven't actually played black myth wukong yet
And I just bought it. I bought it in AMD's booth and that's the beginning of the game
That's why I ran that scene and the reason that we picked black myth wukong was because it's a really demanding game
And I wanted to see can this thing do console level graphics in a in a in a thin like tablet like device
And that happened to be the game that MSI in the next booth over had on a drive
Guys sometimes it ain't that deep Yeah
And so yeah, I thought that was I thought that was really cool. I think it's a really exciting chip genuinely pretty awesome
Um, anyway, so we've got a kind of a summary from the from the writing team that they put together
And of the kind of the pros and cons so pros from a brand perspective
You have time to communicate your message and your product details to reviewers
Because if you don't have because otherwise think about it, you can't brief
Everybody at once on a new product you you could you could do a zoom call, but people are gonna have questions. They'll have follow-ups
You need time to disseminate information
So having a gap between when you first start doing that and when everyone can go public with it buys you time
The brand also has time to address potential issues
Before public release of the information and even potentially public release of the product
We have seen problems that have been found by reviewers
That have been fixed by the time the product hits the public now
Should brands be using reviewers as beta testers?
no Probably not and does that create a huge amount of extra burden in some cases because you have to redo all your testing once they patch it
Yeah, and that's not cool and that's not fair But is that way better than a buggy product hitting consumers? Absolutely, of course
cons You can lose buzz around the launch if reviews are delayed
Especially if the details leak early
I think There are exceptions to this. I don't think nintendo has lost any switch to buzz
Because of all the leaks if anything dude, did you see the views on that video? That's one thing
I don't think we actually talked about number one trending. Yeah
I I checked the the views on the steam deck
Yeah, and it beat the views on the steam deck in two hours. Yeah
Yeah, all time steam all nintendo would have to do to be the top youtuber in the world
Is release new console every day
It's already at 16 million views That's wild interesting. Um, okay. So another con it could be seen as an attempt to control the narrative or limit transparency
and in some cases we have seen that
for reviewers a pro is that it gives all the reviewers a shared deadline and
takes away the Some of the sort of feeling that you can have that you like
Need to rush in order to in order to like
Support yourself in your livelihood and you know hit the content earlier because there is a strong
Financial not to mention just like dopamine incentive to publishing something that gets a lot of views
You might still have that's very human a very considerable amount of pressure
absolutely Because maybe the deadline versus when you get the thing
Oh, sure. Are not really that far away from each other. So I am I am I am going through this list as like a sort of
In good faith if everything's working properly
Manor if that makes sense If everyone has a shared deadline and some people get two weeks with it and some people get three days
Well, you just kind of still have the same problem, don't you? But if uh, if uh, if a real
Good faith effort is made to get everyone the product at the same time
Get everyone the briefing at the same time and then have everybody release the information at the same time
So that we get these multiple perspectives, but people have time to do their work. That can be a benefit
Another pro is that it can give reviewers the ability to plan and allocate resources to cover multiple products
During times like around ces around computex
Tectober there can be a lot of launches and if we have
Embargo dates communicated to us ahead of time. It allows us to plan our production
For instance, we made the call to not do a full review of the arc b570
We knew it was going to be arc b580, but like
slower And cheaper I thought the live stream was a really cool idea. Yeah, the live stream was cool
But we didn't actually use the b570 in the live stream Yeah, we used the b580 because
Because we basically what we built was a strategy to address the two major questions that we had outstanding
How much of a how much of um The opposite of uplift
Downfall not downfall, but anyway, how much uh, how much performance?
Loss was there compared to the b580 and we were able to do that
With a little bit of light Labs testing in a ShortCircuit
So there's the b570 kind of what we we said what we need to say about it
The other major thing that we've wanted to look at for arc is how's the game compatibility on battlemage?
And then that's where the stream came in where we let viewers submit their suggestions for games that we could try side by side against an
rtx 4060
Another but cons for reviewers Brands can seriously hamper the review process like luke said by delaying access to the product
It restricts our ability sometimes to cover products in a timely manner
um like if we if we Okay, i'm actually i don't know if it restricts our ability to cover things in
There can be pressure to have your review published the moment the embargo lifts because otherwise
No one's going to watch it or or read it and
it's in a way Forcing you to kind of play the game right to work with companies and agree to these embargoes to get early access to the products to
Support yourself to to have your livelihood right like it puts you it puts you at company's mercy a little bit
but the reality of it is is That's just how it works. You can just source products yourself
We do it for apple for instance apple has zero
Working relationship with us and we I think we still manage to cover their products
But it is definitely it is definitely beneficial to
Have a product explained by the people who built it um
Not just beneficial for us, but beneficial for the viewer. So let's get into the benefits for the viewer
You get more comprehensive well researched reviews that include multiple perspectives our personal perspective
We can get perspectives from you know outsiders We can get perspectives from the brand and build the most complete picture that we can
it also helps build trust in the review process because
If everything's just kind of coming out in leaks and and dribbles and drabs and people are rushing things because there's
You know no time and they're just trying to get things up as quick as possible I think that can erode trust
But the con is consumers may perceive cooperation with embargoes as the reviewer being influenced by the brand
I think that basically just comes down to how influenced you are by it and in some cases. I think
Some people are I think some people are very not influenced by it
There's a lot of publications that if they you know got a briefing on a product and they got shipped to GPU. I'd be like yeah and
Like what is someone gonna is someone going to say that hardware unbox is going to like give better coverage to a
To a GPU because or wendell from level one tex is going to give better coverage to a GPU because NVIDIA send it to him
Please if wendell was for sale for the price of a GPU. I'd be the first one in line to buy them
You'd have to yeah, I don't know about that. I'll get there pretty quick
All right, what else we got today
What do you want to do luke uh We can do the john deere thing
Yeah, I think we can kind of get just go through that one pretty quick fire through the u.s
federal trade commission along with the attorneys general of illinois and minnesota sued tractor and agricultural
manufacturer john deere on wednesday alleging that deere has monopoly power over the repair mark. Oh, let's go
Okay, right fdc chair an extremely based person
Lena kahn stated that deere has in quotes has allegedly restricted the ability of farmers and independent technicians to repair deer equipment
Including tractors and combines john deere has responded saying that the suit in quotes ignores the company's longstanding commitment to customer self repair and the
Sure And the consistent progress and innovation we have made over time and quote
404 media's article notes that deer has become notorious for
Cornering the repair market on its machines by introducing software locks to prevent farmers from fixing the equipment that they buy without the authorization of john deere
Being forced to this is no longer the quote but Being forced to wait for authorized repair personnel can mean significant delays in repairing machines during the critical planting and harvesting seasons
Which can result in lost harvest and dying crops in october of 2024
us senator elizabeth warren said that deere was not honoring a memorandum of
Understanding that would have made it possible for farmers to make some repairs on their own
The current fdc suit states that the mou was designed to kill right to repair legislation and repair
regulation against the company I saw
Some dudes wearing john deere hats down at zes that I was relatively certain
Were just like employees of john deere and it it took it took a significant amount not to just roast them about right to repair
I'm not even kidding. I don't even know this was happening. It's just john deere has been
The only like agricultural company that has consistently showed up on wanshow for just being trapped
I'm sure they're like Products are good
But the the right to repair issues are brutal and farmers of honestly anyone have been known for
Maintaining and keeping things going on their own historically forever and taking that away from them is ridiculous and stupid
And drives up the price of food. Yeah, which is like you should all be mad. Not good. Yeah
Defconn had to talk about john deere. Yeah, and it was sick
Based lina con Basically, please run for prime minister of canada. Yeah, come up here. Please. It'd be great. Can someone know her?
Okay, like how many people how many people are watching right now? We got 23,000 people watching on youtube
We probably got a few thousand more on flow plane like 25 people on facebook. Okay
The six degrees of separation thing, okay, does anyone know anyone who knows anyone who knows lina con can you just can you just formally
Can you just formally request that she come to canada and run for prime minister?
I will I will personally be her biggest cheerleader. I don't think she's announced what she's doing next
I'm like genuinely interested. Hopefully whatever it is. She's able to have a similar impact
I don't know Yeah, yeah, I have to be clear. I am kidding. I'm actually can you can you?
If you weren't born in canada, can you be prime minister? I have no idea. I know in america you have to be born in
Do you have to be born that argument constantly comes up in american politics?
I've never heard it for canadian ones. No four of canada's prime ministers have been born outside canada
Oh, well, okay, some of them like the very early ones alexander mckenzie john a mcdonald because like you kind of need to be
Literally every white dude was our new prime minister. They're five
They'll grow up All right. Hey can't be much worse. There's a little rapid fire hexo s update
Oh, okay Uh, this is from uh, this is from john from hexo s
We have been absolutely blown away by the response from both the LTT and the home server community
The sheer number of people who have reached out to offer support apply for jobs
Um offer out potential for partnerships has been incredible
Special thanks to mosson dylan ubergeek mobius and theo from the hexo s forums
These guys have been amazing and helping our community immensely. Um, just to catch you guys up hexo s is the naz
software that is um being developed
Under the leadership of a couple former unraid guys who go way back to helping me with seven gamers one CPU
That basically split off and we're like I just um
We need startup funding and I was like, oh my god, you guys, um
Okay, uh, sure and you know, I've talked about this on the WAN Show before I had no idea
If they're they were gonna succeed really I knew they're like good guys
I knew they were super good guys, but this is a big project. It's a big undertaking
But what I knew was that I wanted their product to exist an easier
diy naz software it's built on true naz and it's got a really pretty interface and it's designed to be
True naz rock solid in the foundation and pretty modern
Like pretty and modern not somewhat modern pretty and modern in the front end. Um
Anyway fast facts they've sold approximately 28 000 licenses so far
so suck it haters basically
The number of people that are like there's no What are they doing
Guys just because it's not for you doesn't mean it's not for anybody Yeah, I was just gonna say and it not being for you is totally is fine. Totally fine
Go roll like bear true naz and like get in there in the command line do it
Do it there's some people I talked to excitedly about this
There are other people that I would have never brought it up once because it's just not applicable to them at all
That's fine. Eshtack has more than doubled the team size since the launch with at least three more hires planned in 2025 and
Oh, I wish I could tell you what this is But they have already reinvested in the community with a six figure sponsorship of an open source development project
To be announced soon It's really cool. Cool game changer. Um, the sheer volume. I can I ask you this is it gonna work with their thing?
Cool. Yeah, of course. Nice, but it'll be open source
Nice, it's just cool. Nice the sheer volume of support has made us rethink our development approach for 2025 more info soon
Once we have the new team ramped up I should have time to post some comprehensive updates through blog posts exciting times. All right, so that's it
I don't I don't want to spend too much time on this is oh, it's uh after dark. Let's go
Oh
And I told you I've been I shifted some of my weightlifting days to movement and flexibility days. Yeah
In general, I feel very good There are things that are sore
And I'm not used to being sore Like you're like your perennium
perennium Come on
That's always sore. I'm well. Yeah
If you don't know what it is don't look it up. That's why
I did I did I didn't have to do two and a half hours of the show already. They're they're chill. They're easy
So I I got a course. Yeah for the weightlifting stuff. I didn't do courses
I just learned stuff on my own for the flexibility stuff. I'm like this is so far out of my realm
I need somebody to help me. So I got I bought a course Um, it was unlimited lifetime access to this one course, whatever they had a black friday sale fine
I just started it and I started watching video I went to the gym and then started watching because it was like, okay, do this movement
Here's a video so you can see what the movement is and then log your stuff and move on to the next one and they had me
I'm at a public gym. They had me do cat cows. Do you know what cat cows are?
Did you just laugh? Do you know what they are? I I snored it. Yeah
Do you want to demonstrate? No
No, no, no, no, there's no shot I'd have to get up on the table. That's not happening. It's not happening. It's not happening. It's not happening
Hold on. Hold on. It's not happening. I'm just gonna it's not happening. I'm just gonna add a picture to the
Oh, no, are you gonna show what it is? No, no, you guys can just show it on your laptops, of course. Sure
uh cat cow
So I had to
I had to do this in a public gym, dude. So you go so you start
And then you go to a neutral position and then you go to the one on the left And I just I had a certain point. I just closed my eyes
So I was like, I don't want to see people looking at me while I do this
I went into the corner. I usually I'm like, I'm there. I'm working hard. I'm looking pretty heavy. This is the gym
I normally go to I know people there at this point and then out of nowhere
New year happens. I go into the corner of the gym and I just
It's like that that great song by two live crew Luke, I think it's okay. I don't think it's um, I don't think it's embarrassing
It was extremely embarrassing
Bronze as I call it cat heaving Ah
Does it make it better or worse vng supernova, so that's what white people twerking is
It's like slow and clunky, uh, it sounds like trying to get minuses thighs
But I mean, yeah, like things feel pretty good. Um, but my goodness I might I might uh
I might do though those ones at home. We'll see. Yeah, I think that don't let the birds see you. They won't respect you anymore
That whole they said you need a bench, but like, I don't know. I could just use a chair for everything
I had to do so I can easily do it at home. Yeah
But yeah couch, you know certain kinds
All right, good enough bed frame. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Oh What are we supposed to be doing right now after dark? I don't know. Do you want a merch message? It's very after dark this evening. Yeah, sure
Yeah, yeah, sir. Hit me Dan. Hey lld last week. You mentioned we're moving away from oh, no, we did that one
I didn't archive it What advice do you have for somebody moving who wants to put in wired networking from scratch
Currently researching the best setups for access points cameras door access land parties, etc
Consider the future and put in conduit Yeah, but not everywhere though like not
Okay If the run
is easy put in one
If the run is hard run two
You never know you might You might pull a Linus and get your like your mirror image screwed up and
Misterminate the same thing six times and use it all up. I did it once
Yvonne had to be had to look at me and go That's not what you were doing before I had done all the other ones in the entire installation. This was back in my old house
um You could uh, you could have uh, you could have something to through the cable
You could have Things happen. Basically is what i'm trying to say
The cable could just be defective in the first place or it could get damaged while you're running it
So if you run two Cable is not that there's not that expensive in the grand scheme of things
Running cable Can get real expensive depending on where you're going. So that's a big one for me. I would say for something like
access points um Now that they're all so pretty and you can do like wireless backhaul with six gigahertz and stuff. I feel like
I would go wired backhaul for everything, but I feel like it's it's less of a big deal if you like miss a spot but with cameras
Really get in there With like one camera and just like a hundred meter spool and like really make sure you like the views
Where you're putting in your cameras Uh do that homework because there's a couple that i'm not really happy with and that I wish I had done a little bit differently
What about wireless cameras? I mean then you still have to do with power, right? So wireless cameras
I've just found them. I found them slower. I found the quality can be not as good. I
I don't like anything wireless. I always prefer
I always prefer wired and see it's also easier to run. Um, let me do that
It's also easier to run like cat 5 than it is power, right?
This is true This is true. So yeah, I do I do wired when I can and wireless when I have to for something like a doorbell camera
You know, I'll go. Yeah, sure. I'll go wireless if I need to get that like that's fine
Um, what what else would you what else would you consider?
Currently researching best apps for access points. I mean just thoughtfulness is the biggest one
Door access. Okay. I got a cool video coming on that soon. Yes, but spend time testing your access point locations before you actually like
Permanently place them a lot of good can be had with tape to the ceiling. Yeah
Yeah along the wall just to make sure land parties
I would say for a land party almost I wouldn't even like overthink it as long as you've got one, you know, cat 6a
Yeah, just toss toss a switch on the table. Yeah, you got one 10 gig up link
Yeah, you know, like if you're if you're like that that couple that built the like land gain. Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude
You know, that's sick do it up, right? You're probably not doing that
But that's sick But if you're just trying to be ready to run a run a land party once in a while then yeah
As long as you just have like run cat 6a to the ones that matter
Um, unlike me do not run cat 6a everywhere
If something's only ever going to need gigabit or two and a half gig you can do two and a half gig on cat 5v over
I don't think over the full distance. Yo Dan, do you remember how far you can do 2.5 gig on cat 5v?
I mean the spec is like 300 feet. I'm looking it up now
Is the is the spec 300 feet for 2.5 gig?
Come on, I think it's like for everything
Uh, yeah mileage. Yeah, well mileage may vary
Yes, because the spec like we've done 10 gig in the lab
And the spec fails like our testing equipment fails at 300 feet
We can still get you know 10 gig, right? Yep. And like you can run
10 gig on cat 5e which it's not rated for if the distance is extremely short
Just like you can use like an ancient HDMI 1.4 cable
Certified cable if it's a really short one and you can run HDMI 2.1 or whatever sometimes sometimes
It's just it's just not a guarantee. That's why these standards exist for reliability
And consistency as long as you have the eight conductors. Yes. Yeah
That um, yeah, what else what else could we really say? I'd say, um
I'm not moving who wants to put him hard on pick your battles
That's another big one. Like if you don't have to pull off sheetrock
Just don't just just run a little thing I I thought I cared a lot about that when we moved into my current place
And so we like we pulled off drywall everywhere and put everything
You know behind a drywall and then when we did the the one place we didn't was in the family room where we have 5.1
No, what what even is it 5.5 point
1.2 I forget what it is But like a surround setup because I never intended to have one there and then my bloody family like never
Wanted to go down to the theater and they always wanted to just watch them like okay fine Screw it
Then we're going to put surround in here And so I had to do it after the fact and I ended up using the little like cable hiders and stuff
And you know what I never noticed them. Yeah, I never think about them
So pick your battles like sometimes it's better to just run a little plastic thing. They're so overpriced
Oh, yeah, it kills me giving LeGrand that much money for a little plastic tube
I'm dead Oh cable hiders hold on there 30 print like a trillion smaller ones. Yeah, and I'm sure there's like cheaper ones
But the last time I shopped for these was years ago And it was not immediately apparent
You know what the cheaper ones were and if they were any good In fact, I think we used some of the cheaper ones when we did the family room
I think Jake sourced them, but these are the ones that I used years before that and I had some leftovers
So I used them for some stuff as well
Wire mold cord cover there you go wall hider. There's lots of different names for them apparently
All right, what else we got Dan? Hello linous Jake and done
I'm a ups driver and I love listening to the wancho vaude at work
Wondering what your worst package delivery experience has been any lost damage or stolen packages
I've got a good one for this. Cool. I've got a couple
I I at one point time. I was really trying to fix my posture
So I I did buy an expensive thing spoiler alert. I returned it, but
I did buy an expensive thing. I bought a ermine miller chair
Um, did you just say ermine? I didn't mean to do that, but I did. I like it. You know what? I'm gonna go with that
It's ermine now. Yeah I mean you got ermiz. Um, yeah
I think it was the embody or something. I don't remember what but uh, this is when I
Totally didn't live, um under the the old studio house
And they they delivered it I didn't get a confirmation of the delivery and they just left it on the lawn in the front
When they deliver those chairs, they're not like they require no assembly, right? It's an enormous box
Right and they just left it on the lawn. They're like wet lawn super chill
In the middle of suburbia with no one home They didn't get a confirmation signature that it was not a 2.5 k chair just to be clear at that time
It was a lot cheaper and I returned it. I think it was about a grand
It was a lot It was a big deal, but I was like, I'm gonna you know, I spent a lot of time sitting in the chair
My posture is terrible. I'm gonna try to get a good chair and it showed up
I was pissed that it was just like abandoned in the lawn. I drag it inside. I didn't like it that much. I'll just return
Oh, well, I got a couple good ones
Um One of them is very similar. So do you did you ever check out the video we did on the kluvins?
Uh scorpion chair. Oh, yeah When they delivered that
The title was not a lie. The title was you know, obviously
Not that descriptive so you could describe it as kind of clickbait in that sense because we were like they left this in my driveway, right?
Okay But I personally am fine with that as long as it is reflective of the reality of the situation
and they did They left it not in my driveway at home, but effectively in our driveway
At work Whatever courier they contracted. Why is this happening? Just like why is it chairs a giant friggin crate?
Like essentially in the parking lot at our studio and I don't blame kluvins for this to be clear
I think it must have been some kind of miscommunication of some sort I don't I don't think I can attribute this one to malice. There's got to be there's got to be an error
A wire that got crossed somewhere. Um, but one of my other favorite ones was when we did a um a sponsored video project with
a pc builder and I think I think they asked us not to disclose who it was at some point like not or not to not disclose but not to
Um, not to address that this had happened in the video because we thought it was hilarious
But they were like, yeah, our stuff being destroyed is just not that like
You know on brand for us. We were not we're not into like we're not into like gore of our stuff being destroyed
But this boutique beautiful gaming system got
mangled like Shattered tempered glass side panel and what was painful about this was that it was very customized
And uh, that really sucked that that really sucked. That's rough. That was like entirely on the shipping company. Oh, yeah
Yeah, it was packaged nicely and so and I think that was another thing that they had some sensitivity around was they were like
Yeah, we really don't want people to think that this is reflective of our packing materials
And I actually support that position for them because it was good. Their packing materials are excellent. Nice. Um, but
Even the best packing materials can succumb to a drop kick
All right, what else we got
Okay, hi DLL one of my hard drives on my nas recently started reporting checksum errors
And a colleague suggested running spin right on it to recover the data. Is that snake oil or does it work?
I have not Tried it But I would say that if you're getting checksum or smart errors, you should replace your drive
What if he's doing raid zero? Then you should stop doing raid zero and then replace your drive. Yeah
Yeah, why would you want to just people are saying spin rate is so awesome
Okay, maybe I need to familiarize myself with this. Why would this person want to run spin right on it instead of
Just replacing the drive. Maybe this is a drive in
Like help me out chat
Is it a single drive
Originally written as an interleave tool Okay. Oh no, so yeah spin rights ancient. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't that's okay. That's super cool
I mean, I can't hurt to test it
I don't know I'm at the point in my life where if you're running it in raid one
Then I would say, yeah, I don't know run some utility on it and maybe it's fine
You'll have the redundancy still anyway Um, but I'm at a point in my life where when it comes to data
If I see a smart error if I see a checksum error, don't mess with it. I throw it away. I'm sorry. I I um, yeah
Yeah, people who like spin rate is legit says steve gibson of gibson research apparently
This is according to os dirk in the Floatplane chat. Didn't he make it?
I don't know Oh, yes. Wait, what?
What are you trying to do to me? Obama giving Obama a medal. Yeah, exactly. Good job. Good job. Oh, bubba. Yeah
guys I was like, hold on a second. All right
Floatplane is amazing perfect
The best Floatplane I've had your screwdriver for a year or oh no, is this true
What someone said Are you guys trolling me right now?
Hold on. Are you guys trolling me right now? F car dude says you can only download spin right on firefox. There's no way that's true
You guys got to be you guys got to be meming on me. There's absolutely no way. I want to go see you right now
Why did they troll
Demo No, they're always they're trolling. They're trolling. They're trolling. They're trolling. Okay. I'm I'm ignoring you guys for a little bit
That was a good one. That was a very good one. That was a good one. I it's exactly
It is exactly the kind of thing that I could see just some meme-ass developer being like
Oh, yeah, and doing I oh, yeah, we have to call it on the lab site. I know I've said it before on land
So I won't go through it again, but yeah
I've had your screwdriver for a year or so now and love it and here's a question for Linus
I'm new to having a cat. How do you keep these young cats from tearing up furniture and your house?
They're strats. Um, you can try. Yeah, that helps
You can try like orange scents. I personally haven't found them that effective
You can try like fell away
Like, uh, oh man, what's the like pheromone style like calming things. I personally never found them that effective and they're really expensive
We've found the most effective thing is to take the spots where they like to scratch stuff and just put something else there
So there's there's spots on the carpet and there's like corners Our house is just full of those cheap little like cardboard scratcher things that you can get on amazon the cats
Love them. They rip them up, but they're cheap. You just get a new one whatever and it's cardboard. You just throw it in their cycling
So who cares? Um The other big one is double-sided tape
clear double-sided clear tape If you put that on a vertical surface that they that they'll go after it'll grab on the the fur on their paws and they don't
Like it. Yeah, they don't like it. It'll make sense. It'll get them out of the habit sometimes
Sometimes there are just materials though that are just
Irresistible to them and you're just gonna have to get a different couch
When that one is destroyed
That's just part of break that couch up furfino asks is declawing unethical
um As we discussed earlier on the show
um ethics and morals different concepts
I I think it is highly immoral
I think it is disgusting If you understand what you are doing
And you still go forward with it. I don't think we can ever be friends
um Declying a cat is not like like just pulling the fingernail off of a human finger, which would already be bad enough
Declying a cat is essentially Cutting off their finger at this knuckle
Never do that
I I like I I mean I didn't know that I'm not a cappers and um declawing is amputation
Yeah, that's brutal. Yeah, what drives me nuts is when people clip bird wings
super common Oh interesting because they don't want them flying around their house
But they want to let them out of the cage And it's easier to get them to like sit on you if you clip their wings so they can't fly away
So my aunt used to always clip them a little So they could fly for a while
But then like they they couldn't like take off Yeah, what would you what would you say to that? I'm just curious. I don't know enough about that. Um
It doesn't hurt them just to be clear. It's just guys. I'm not saying it's the same. I'm not saying it's the same
Yeah, he's not saying it's the same you're taking an animal that is you know, you're not you're not it's a
You're not amputating the wing of the bird or something like that
But you're taking an animal that is supposed to fly and has instincts to fly and you're not allowing that's it'll try
And it'll flop over And it won't understand why it can't fly and that's like if you understand what's going on when it is
Confused about why it can't fly like that's depressing. I don't know it's not it's not the same thing is
cutting a hand off or something like that, but it's like
It's pretty rough. Um, I'm not a fan of it. I I do think there are potentially some benefits
to Wing clipping at the very beginning
Mm-hmm So that they get used to
Like walking around on the floor and stuff and get comfortable with this the the ground space
So that if they Do get like frightened and then fly around for too long and run out of gas before they get to a good landing spot and land on
The ground they're comfortable. That's something a lot of people don't know is birds can't fly for like that long
Yeah, they have like no energy reserves doors when there's no like drafts and stuff to keep them up when it's just wing power
Yeah, they're gonna gas out for sure Um alon asks what about de-sexing also amputation, right by de-sexing. Do you mean like fixing and neutering?
spaying and neutering because
They're right now
Miss and panda are recovering from their spay and neuter operations
I am I am fully spay and neuter your pets people cats dude
Are literally an invasive species that is a threat to many other species particularly birds
Um, and we don't need more of them. We have enough of them. Uh, spay and neuter your pets guys
How now dll cow took my commuter bag on its maiden voyage today
When will you offer the titanium carabiners?
direction kit of the big backpack in the store so I can upgrade my commuter
Oh We weren't planning to um
That's I don't know. That's kind of a cool idea because a lot of people didn't redeem them
So we like have a bunch of them. Um, I think we're using some of them. It's called liability material
So, uh, like like extras. I think we're using some of our liability carabiners for a cool like ultra ultra lightweight
Jacket that stuffs up into one of the pockets And then you zip it and then it has like a carabiners so you can like clip it onto your backpack or whatever. Um, that's we're making one of those
Yeah, that's it's really nice. I had one for years and then
It should have survived this it is not her fault
It it like on the website. It says it should survive this but Emma threw it in the the washer and it just
Shredded itself. It's um, it was very old. It's super cool. So what it is is the
Uh, the the pattern that's printed on it is the like microscopic
Structure of some metal. I forget what it is, but it's like a metal that's relevant to like one of our
One of our long-time collaborators or something like that I think it might be it might be whatever metal framework uses in their chassis or something like that like it's uh,
I forget that Tatiana would know all the details. Um, sure, but it's got a cool pattern
But it's got a really cool pattern. It looks really cool It's not going to be cheap because it's a like really lightweight but still really high performance material and stuff
But it's cool Did you see anything on the technical side when backstage or on set of the Jimmy Fallon show that you would like to
Adopt or integrate into the production of LTT videos question. What impressed you the most?
The thing that impressed me the most was just generally the smoothness like there's monitors everywhere
The entire studio area is plumbed with the audio from the show. So everyone knows like what's going on
Which is like great for just situational awareness
Um, mostly I'm not going to lie. I didn't recognize
Most of the equipment that they were using they're operating on a completely different level. Yeah, and our sets are designed to be
Quickly modularly dynamically moved around
That is a permanent set. They do one thing. Yeah, and they do it real good
It's a lot easier to do one thing incredibly well I'd say the smoothness of everything. I was I was just super impressed by the team
I went out deal. Oh my first LTT video was luke's great geodude pc
After the bulbasaur pc. What would you like to build next? I'm not building another one anytime soon
I'd love to see a magic carp or giradose theme in the thermal take immersion case. Okay now. I'm tempted
Told you told you there's what get you you can't do the immersion thing because you don't want the liquid with the birds
Yeah, but you can have it at work No
With the it department doesn't need to deal with that with uh with my roommate out
It could be more viable depending on where we end up situating things
But I would still probably want them to be somewhat. I don't know. Yeah
Yeah I'm thinking of upgrading my computer from a Ryzen 7 2700x
But keeping my rtx 3080 since I only do 1440p or should I go all the marbles and get the new 50 series?
3080 is still a really decent card pretty solid card. Here's an answer that people don't give enough
Try it How am I supposed to answer that question for you?
Upgrade your CPU and your motherboard and and round. Oh, yeah
And then see if you're happy with it because you're gonna get a nice little performance uplift
And then if you're not happy with it, well, hey This gives you a little bit of time. You can start like it's not usable
You can use your system with the 3080 play some games
And then when it's when you're in a comfortable financial position to upgrade it go for it
The good news is that with the way things are looking based on the pricing that NVIDIA announced for the 50 series
40 series and 30 series might continue to hold their value pretty okay. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, go for it
Yeah Honestly 3080s are still beast. They're still decent. Yeah, the only reason that I'm upgrading mine is like because I can
And like I really want a new one Which is and that's
Fine and fair enough. Yeah, it's not rational though. Also. I have a like, uh, I have a
480 hertz monitor on my desk right now or 500 whatever whatever the last like a suce
The only thing that really has me interested in the in the 50 series stuff is the AI capabilities for non gaming things
That's that's very interesting
But as far as games go like I don't know Especially if you're turning on the technologies that they they want you to
Then it's like, I don't know friends are fine. A 4080 is pretty freaking fast. Yeah, if you turn on like frame gen
Yeah, and even if you don't if you have a 4080 like you're crushing everything anyways. I don't know. Yeah, and you're 4080, right?
Yeah, yeah, okay, look, I'll give you compute time on mine
Are you buying one? I I would like to I think I think this this year is the time I get a founders
Obviously completely irrational purchase. I just kind of want one
It's a meme especially with nick, but it's a meme with the Labs team that was down. It's a yes
How much I think the the dual flow through fans are so freaking cool
And it's a two slot. I want it because it's a two slot. It's super cool. It's a founders
I want one for the AI stuff. I've already got very many expensive
Founders is Save Luke money riddle me this down you can have compute. What are you going to install in your other PCIe slots now that you've freed them up?
Uh, well, I have dual slot really. I have seven on the other one
Well, I and it can't I can barely fit my NVMe PCI my card or my usb card, but it does fit
Yeah, it's like touching the fans
I want a smaller computer like I already said it's not a reasonable like
purchase None of the third parties are going to do two slots. So yeah
All right. I don't have to defend myself because it's a stupid purchase
That's fair I mean if you take a lot of the wind out of the sails of your detractors if you're just like
I am making a bad decision. Yeah. I am doing so knowingly and willfully. I'm doing this for joy
Not because it's smart. I just I think you know, you know that thing
I was talking to you about like a long time ago when I started laying out predictions for AI stuff and I was like companies are going to have
Effectively like mainframes again on prem. Yeah, that's like happening big. Oh so fast
And part of it is like I don't want to fall behind
So like What my job is I like I'm no I'm not going to try to expense one in my personal computer. Don't worry
Yeah, you're right But I part of me is like I need to start working with like local AI systems more
I've been very aware of well, maybe what we should do is we should build like a local AI compute machine
That everyone can kind of share time on and we'll just like put it in the lab in the lab server room
And like is would that be kind of a helpful solution potentially? Yeah, yeah
We've been talking about it, especially with like the cool video whatever it's called digits
Yeah, that was an idea too. Like do we get a digits?
I think we should get at least one. Yeah, I'm looking at that. I'm not that convinced for three grand
I'm not that convinced. You couldn't just build a $3,000 tower and put a freaking
5090 in it. We try to see which ones were viable. Do you want to want to play with mine?
Yeah, well part of it's also the RAM being able to
Yep Sorry, what was that done? Do you want to play with mine as like a test run because that's what I built
What a thing to say if we didn't have the context for it context really does matter, doesn't it?
Wait, what do you mean? Well, because I asked if you want to play with his you want to play with mine
Do you want to play with his do you want to play with Dan's? I built a mule
But I'm talking blackwell
Uh, no, well, I mean I will if you want I'll put the 5090 in it, but I was kind of hoping to
How many how many this is one question I have Dan. It's how many 5090s?
One, are you sure? Yes, how many 4090s do you have dad one? Oh
How many 4090s did you have Dan? What do you mean did just that's all wait was it 30 90s yet a bunch of don't ask
How many 30 90s did you have Dan? three
Why and two 2080 ti's
Because you can get them super cheap when they're abused by
By mining and barely run and then we'll continue to be a bruised. What does barely run mean?
Uh, I don't know What does that even mean in the context of a GPU what the fan is broken like what are we even talking about?
Yeah, you're right. People keep asking What's digits it's it's this?
NVIDIA project digits. It's this little thing right here. Yeah, it's a little like it looks kind of like a mac mini
But it's golden because of course it is ARM cpus
and uh, and Grace blackwell, so it's a grace blackwell. Sorry grace, uh cpus and then blackwell GPU GPU. Yeah, yeah
cool Yeah, that's what it is. Basically, it's a it's a it's a dev platform AI dev box. Yeah. Yeah, um, but yeah
I mean Nick in the lab has shown a lot of interest in in this type of stuff. Yeah, um
It's like clearly where where things are kind of headed. Um, and I need to not fall behind so
You're welcome to time on on my box
That's why I built Dan Oh
Holy f*** dude. Well, okay. We shot a video recently and I called it by its actual name. So
Next merch message, it's brand cute. We worked on it together when we did a company events. No, it's the naming
It's what you called it. I'm a child. I'm sorry Uh, long time listener first time merch messenger. My work involves optimization for manufacturing and logistics
Can you share any insights on how LMG and cw plans and manages these fields? Keep being awesome
Nope And the answer is I just don't know
Um, I don't do much on the operations side these days and as far as creator warehouse
We uh, we hired patrick who I used to work with at ncix to be our third party logistics company. So, um, you know, nick obviously or like
You know dave from the cw team would coordinate with patrick or whatever
But I only see patrick every once in a while to be like, how's it going chris pie five
Thanks for your business, you know
Thanks for your partnership. Yeah, sorry guys. I don't I don't have much to contribute there
Linus came across the 10 years of gaming pc's vid
I loved how it catalogued the history of each era Do you think creating a series that contextualizes pc history through each hardware generation?
Is worth it. I think that sounds like an enormous super cool project
And it's exactly the kind of thing that I would love to put in like
You know the the LTT tech museum or something like that like I I kind of
Okay, I don't want anybody to get excited about this But it's it's on a dock of like potential business ideas, you know or potential
future ideas In all likelihood that is that is not going anywhere
um But it was something that I thought would be really cool because it would both act as a as a funnel
to to Create ideas for content
And it would be somewhere for us to put Some of the stuff that we create for content where people could actually interact with it and enjoy it like
We oh we did such a cool video this week. Have you seen the all-in-one gaming tv?
No Okay No, well you're not going to find it
We shot it this week. Oh, yeah, definitely not that
all right, let's see if I can find
An early version of sort of
Taking this idea and doing something with it
Um when we just didn't have the resources or the time to do what we did this week
Um, I'm trying to find it and it's so
Hard to search for things on youtube these days. I will be the first to admit that the way we title our videos
Doesn't always help
But it is also Really really hard to search for stuff
Anyway, we we did a video where we basically said okay hear me out. What if tv's didn't really need to be that much thinner?
And what if it would be cooler if we just packed
Like way more features into them. We put like giant speakers in them and we like integrated
All this stuff. So we built it We bought you remember those old rear projection tv's from like the mid 2000s
We bought one a sony We ripped everything out. We gutted it in its place. We put a brand new OLED panel. Okay. Yeah
We put a top of the line gaming pc We put a playstation 5
We put a we you And we put a switch including
Exterior access to the switch and in the front the little the little hinge to access like the front video
We cut all that out. We put the we you there. So you pull down the little thing. There's your we you boom disc
The whole thing is completely sealed up. So it's like the sleeper gaming tv. It's
So cool. We was underrated Honestly, when I saw the bigger switch the first thing I thought was I hope it feels more like the we you controller did
Because the we you controller was like amazing. Yeah
So it's a it's a great video alex Justin and sebastian actually from cw out did themselves
And it is almost looks factory good like the tv like the fit
Like it's so oh, it's so good. That's pretty sick. It looks so
Unnatural and out of place. I recorded a clip. I don't know if it's going to make it into the edit
But I was talking about how it looks it looks like it's um
It looks like it's screen replaced like in real life
It looks like they rotoscoped out whatever was on and like put content in in post
Like it just it looks unnaturally good. It's so cool. That's pretty why we you asks black raven because it's amazing
Yeah, because it it's like the ultimate emulation box it can do it natively plays
What is it? Two Two generations plus even more with the if you've bought stuff in the in like the retro store
Which I forget what it's called the we you shop or whatever Plus you can put like homebrew firmware on it and run a whole bunch of other systems as well
It has native support for the gamecube controller. It has like man, it's
Dude, it's sick. It's it's actually a sick
Console also it does have a ps5 in it as well. So switch we u ps5 and pc
We didn't have an xbox because we have a pc So what are you in your xbox for if you have a like sick gaming pc? Yep
Linus, how do you feel about the s2 going back to the lcd screen?
What sorry, so I think that's the switch to
maybe Is that true? We didn't talk about that. I don't think uh, is that is that final? Is that finalized? Is that confirmed?
Oh, it might be the galaxy s2. No, what is this?
Must be switch to is this a thing? I don't know
See people are saying definitely not confirmed. I'll be disappointed. I'll be disappointed the OLED switch looks
So good so good
I hope not All right, thank you for you restocking the pet cave. Do your pets have nicknames?
My cat's nickname has overtaken and she only gets called by her actual name when she's getting scolded shout out to melody aka the poot
Uh, yeah. Oh, definitely. Um, they have so many nicknames. So why don't I start with dash?
um dashy Um doodoo. I think every pet has the nickname of its name, but with e
My chunky girl
She does the thing where uh, she like eats defensively
So she's gotten territorial about the food so she tries to eat it all
So she's a little on the she's a little on the chunkier side
um And then uh, what else we've got?
What are all my cats? Okay, we got brownie. So we also call him uh brown boy boo boo
So they all have like the first letter of their name. Uh, nicknames. Um
And then we got uh noodle, uh, so he has new new uh and also nudes
That's my vet. I blame my vet for that. Okay. Hey nudes
Anyway And then the new ones panda, pandy
Um poo poo my kids call them the I don't I don't I don't use those
um, and then I accidentally call them Oreo every once in a while because that was the other candidate name and then, um
mischief Usually goes by miss or missy or moomoo
If the kids are talking to her there all pet nicknames confirmed
Come on. It's stinky
You call your aunt Sorry, like cat. Okay cat cat car our two birds are scoop and walley and then our foundling is
Uh, nixie
That's it. No nicknames Uh, just variants of that. Hmm
Nixie's a little hard to do variants of it already sounds like a variant
Uh, scoop scoopy whatever. I don't know
Oop scoop who got to choose the felon walk on music
I was as surprised as anyone. Did you notice? No, they played the peanuts theme song
Really? Yeah, you could it's uh, it's an older reference, but it checks out. Yeah
Wonder who's job is to clear that. Do you have no idea until you're walking out? Yeah. Wow. I'm gonna be honest with you
I didn't notice I only noticed it when I watched it back and someone pointed it out to me
I don't even think I noticed it when I watched it back. I was like dude
I was hopped up on so much adrenaline. I had no idea what was going on
I believe it. I can be a I can be a stressed out boy sometimes
I I heard nothing when I walked out
Yeah, yeah, yeah Hey Linus and Luke
I'm part of a high school robotics club and we're working on getting funding for our team to purchase new machining tools
Do you have any advice on getting tech sponsorships? Dude, it's tough
um Like I don't want to tell you to spam anybody
But I do want to tell you to you know reach out broadly
Um, I want to tell you to maybe some modern tools that can help you with that. Um
Make it personal, you know
Lead with okay. Here's a big one
Demonstrate that there is some chance that you guys are going to do something useful. So show
Receipts for other really cool stuff that you or your teammates have done
I would say that is a really big one that stands out to us
Cohen lemon really good advice start local like actually walk knock on doors. Um, that can be a really good idea as well
Any thoughts on the max more for more for money than tech sponsorships because like I don't know texas instruments might not be in your town
okay Any thoughts on the max bandwidth that will ever be needed per person
You have discussed this before but it has only been a couple years in the morning If there's anything lately that would drive it up
It's less that I think there's a max bandwidth that we need per person per se
Like I know we have talked about how there is kind of
a max um conceivable bandwidth per person is assuming that um, you know
beyond 8k Never really happens because it's irrelevant to humans
outside of like vr applications where you're like stretching it way over the entire field of view
I am like streaming with low latency encoding at extremely high bit rates in the future like I don't know
Conceivably like more bandwidth, but I think you're talking about internet bandwidth
For me, it's less that I think there's a limit to how much bandwidth we could use like I wouldn't mind downloading
Uh black myth wukong in five seconds. I'm sure yeah, I'll bring it on but there are cost and
um point of diminishing returns points that are
practical obstacles to that ever really happening
um like companies that provide
The bandwidth that they provide at the speed that they provide it
essentially for free like steam Doesn't get paid more for that game you bought if they give you faster download speeds
It's basically that they get paid 30 for that game though. Yes, but it's it's basically so they'd be making fat stats
It's at their discretion though how much that download bandwidth they determine they wish to give you and so
I just I haven't seen other than game downloads. I haven't seen any
And other big downloads. I haven't really seen a practical use for much beyond, you know, two and a half gig
Um, but I know I know Jake is like amped that one of our local carriers is moving to I think either five or ten gig to the whole
He just said in chat. I'm getting tell us five gig next week. Yeah, there you go. I'm so jealous. Yeah, there you go
But I don't know what he's gonna do with okay. I know what he's gonna do with it But I'm not gonna talk about what he's gonna do with it. All right. What's next?
We know we know hey lld Linus. I want to upgrade my first serious badminton gear
What do you have any recommendations or tips with buying shoes rackets or shuttle cocks, etc
As with any time you buy shoes buy shoes that fit you
That's the most important thing as for a racket a lot of places will let you trial them
Whether it's friends or other members in the badminton community people are super friendly
Um, if you see something you like say, hey, can I can I play a you know five points with it?
People are often very very friendly if you are also friendly as for shuttles
Man, are they ever getting affordable dude? I should have invested in badminton shuttles
Because they're getting more affordable. No because they're getting more expensive. Oh dude if I just said affordable
No, no unaffordable. Sorry. So I meant to say unaffordable. Dude. They're they're wild. They're wild dude. Um
Try and find something you can afford. Wait, if you're a badminton center now, is that good for you? No
Oh our costs go up But don't you charge more?
Yeah, but like there's a limit like a tube a tube of yonix as 50s is like 70 canadian dollars retail now or something like that
Like it's wild. It's just just just 12 shuttles in there
You miss hit one shot and you spent like
What's that? What's that work at like eight dollars? Or no, no, not not eight dollars like five bucks though like 550. That's rough. Yeah, that's crazy
Can we collect luke's bird feathers and make mini ones?
No Wait, no, it's it's more than that. Hold on. Is their feathers are very small? Yeah, they have like little
They play with like spoons. They would also take forever. Oh, I was pretty close
Let's see Would you guys please consider publishing the source model files like the fusion or solid works for the prints?
I work I can work with the models directly, but having this saves me a bit of time in some cases
That's a good question. I am not the most experienced when it comes to things like 3d modeling
So I have to assume that the team made the decision that they made for reasons
That is a very reasonable way of asking though. And um, I would love to can we can we forward that to um
Oh, who's on point for this? Okay. I I'll discuss it with the team on monday. Thank you. Yes. Thanks
Uh, hey Linus. How's the sv 650 doing? Great. And how dare you ask me?
Uh, not great. I
I primed a bunch of stuff and I have some runs
So I need to go and send them back down
And then I am so stressed because the fact that I'm having such a hard time putting the primer on evenly
Really does not bode well for the translucent for my second attempt at the translucent layer. I'm just
It's hard And I will do my it's it's it everything is shaped so funky if I was painting the hood of a car or something
Huh, huh easy, but there's so many facets and so many different angles and little
crevices and
Will the magnetic chest strap for LTT backpack work with the commuter bag?
It's an add-on isn't it? Yeah. Yeah
Oh, he has both bags here. Do you have one of the magnetic straps? No, you're checking if the attachment points are the same. Yes
They appear to be the same but I would double check with support. Yeah
There does not appear to be any reason why you wouldn't be able to put the magnetic chest strap on the commuter bag
That's all I got Well, then that's all I got
Thank you guys Very much coming back to how we started the show today for your support
For being a part of a positive part of this community and
We appreciate you all We'll see you again next week same bad time same bad chat
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