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teams and I'm actually just realizing that I think it's real where we're

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like yeah it's definitely real yeah I did not think it was real very real the

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whole room is pretty funky there's like old like like Mac laptops from a bygone

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age just sitting chillin like a lot of old like gauges and like a chalkboard

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with a lot of drawings on it nope fake Microsoft background okay you know if I

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if I bump the camera was that will that make it more convincing oh kind of

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actually it's like the one thing I like about teams is that there's one of the

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fake backgrounds that you can choose is like a halo to map

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nice

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okay are we are we free streaming yes oh sick okay hi hi everyone we're gonna

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have to I don't know fire up some Floatplane chat here right like probably a

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good idea probably a good idea I mean

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oh my goodness I had a panic moment there took a second to start loading the

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page and I was like oh no my internet's gone

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Oh

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All right.

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Everything okay?

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Floatplane chat. Yeah, yeah, everything's good. I just found out on Floatplane that we launched Floatplane sub badges.

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Those are super cool. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. It's not just sub badges.

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Cool. What else did we launch?

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It's called a bunch of names, but it's achievements in general.

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So you can gain, I mean, it's like configurable by your team.

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So Sammy in this case. So people can have a lot of different ways that they could,

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like different creators could set up different ways through the

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achievement system as to how people could earn achievements.

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And then when an achievement is earned, you could have a varying

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set of like awards for that user that could be emotes in live chat,

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that could be badges in the comments. Some people are like, why is there no badges on people's names

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in the live chat like on Twitch? Because if you do anything other than Twitch and YouTube,

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exactly what they do, then you're big dumb.

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We just want you to copy Twitch and YouTube. And my answer to that would be that it actually has nothing to do

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with being unique, like I just alluded to. What it really has to do with is we don't really want to touch

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the live chat service. We're busy doing other stuff.

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Live chat service is very annoying to work on.

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And there's lots of other things that we have to work on. So yeah, we'll probably happen eventually.

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Cool. Floatplane or like goat plane?

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Hell yeah.

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Okay, should we do this thing?

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How about you migrate live chat to Java? How about I migrate live chat to nothing and ignore it?

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I like that option.

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How about we don't work on live chat?

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How about we don't work on the thing that gets used once a week?

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Hey, question for you guys. Yes.

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I saw a couple of people saying that our audio is a little bit

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louder or quieter than each other. And I'm not even at like WAN Show volume.

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So I'm going to do a quick test here. Yeah.

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I'm just adjusting that now. Okay. Well, what I'm saying is hold on.

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Give it a second till I do my like, hey, welcome to the WAN Show

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and all that. Can I get a big dog?

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All right. What's up everybody and welcome to the WAN Show.

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We got a great show lined up for you guys this week. Am I peaking?

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Nope. Seems fine to me. All right.

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Rock on. Let's go.

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Are you? Am I monitoring the right? You're on your wave, right?

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That's your wave I see there? That's my wave. Here's my wave.

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Bam. Got it. Wow.

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Wow. Amazing. Wow.

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All right. Here's my wave. What camera are you using?

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I am using the Razer Keo Pro.

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Oh, yeah. Yep. It's doing pretty good.

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It's a $400 webcam.

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Wow. It looks like a $400 webcam.

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Yeah. Yeah. Credit to Razer.

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It's the best webcam. It's the most expensive webcam, but it's a really good webcam.

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Nice.

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Razer does not sponsor the webcam.

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They power the chair. They power the laptop.

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They do not power the webcam, so this I'm using by choice.

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I think that's me, isn't it? Yeah, this one's Luke.

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Interesting. I don't have any effects on it. This may be the Keo Pro Ultra.

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Sorry. Apparently there is a regular Keo.

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I was just shortening it to Keo.

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I think it must be the Keo Pro Ultra. It's whatever the 4K however many hertz it does, one is.

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Dude, Sammy made... The ultimate only fans travel kit.

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Sammy made 30 years worth of sub-edges.

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That's optimistic. You know what?

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You got to respect it. But a big part of the problem is I don't know if these things are going to be...

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Let's say we make it 30 years. You can just say my name.

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No, there's screwdrivers and cables and a fire truck.

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There's a golden controller. Like is the golden controller going to be relevant 20 years from now?

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I mean, I'm a gold bug. You know, that's not a secret.

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So I think gold's going to be pretty relevant 20 years from now.

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Controller. That's my stance on it.

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Well, the controller is made of gold, sir. That's the whole point of it.

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My God. This guy.

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However, anyone who lasts 30 years probably will know the deep lore.

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So there's that.

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I guess. I'm ready to start anytime you guys are ready.

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Big, I guess. Hold on. Did you tweak the white balance?

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Or like, sorry. Did you tweak the saturation at all?

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People are saying I look a little pallid.

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Let me un-palid you.

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Elijah, I cannot be canceled.

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I am uncancellable now. I think that's how it works.

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The more times you've been canceled, the more resilient you are against cancellation.

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That might be true, but you're definitely still cancelable.

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I promise. I dropped so many hard hours back in the day, and yet here I am standing in front of you.

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Nope. You're cancelable. You only said that because we're pre-streaming.

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You're still cancelable. Not real ones.

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Not real ones. See? Not real ones.

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Running it back. You're still cancelable.

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You're still vulnerable. You still have weak spots.

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I think racism. I think overt racism should be cancelable for anyone, no matter how uncancellable they are.

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Then you're still cancelable.

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I mean, we could try it.

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What's Dan, British? Okay, fuck the Brits.

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The red coats. Get them out of here. You can't bleep yourself right now, by the way.

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I know. I mean, look at where my hands are.

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Do I look like I'm reaching for a bleep button?

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It's trying to get canceled. Exactly.

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That's the whole point.

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I feel like there's this whole thing where...

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Hold on. VNG Supernova says the Brits aren't a race.

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No way. Well, what's a race? Physical characteristics?

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I mean, they've all got teeth like they have. Oh, my God.

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Haven't they? We don't have socialized at all.

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I'm sorry.

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Elijah doesn't chat. Stop.

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Honorary British. See, I have this theory that...

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I've heard there's this thing with ADHD people where when things are going kind of too well,

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they'll create chaos and start fights and stuff.

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I think Linus' window of time for things going too well

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has just shrunk over time. Yeah, like five minutes.

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It used to be maybe like a year,

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and then it just got shorter and shorter and shorter. Now it's like maybe like two days.

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If there's no problems for two days,

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he's just going to go on Wancho and be like, I can't be canceled.

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What if I just saved the racism?

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What happens? What are you going to do?

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Linus can have a little racism as a treat.

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Oh, my God.

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What a British thing to say.

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Okay. Did you all get it out of your system?

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I'm fine. Yeah, for now. For now?

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Yeah, we've got to wait an hour.

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Give it another week. It's like a teenager's appetite, you know?

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Yeah. Just give him a little bit.

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He'll get hungry again. Yeah. Cancel maxing.

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Okay, I think we should be good.

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Okay. I am so ready.

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Unfortunately, the thing I'm ready for is dinner,

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which means that I am extra ready to start this show

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so that I can at some point eat dinner. I am like definitely not in the same time zone

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and my body has no idea what's going on.

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All right, let's do this thing. Dinner, lamb boil, bombs.

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Where is my selectives? There they are.

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So everybody has to hear this. This is just what I do, but I have to have my mic hot

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because Linus can't hear me otherwise.

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I mean, you could send me a team's message. Nah.

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Okay. I mean, you're the producer.

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You make the rules. Who knows if it would make it?

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Okay, you guys both ready?

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Yep. Okay, I'm resuming selectives.

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Resumed.

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What is up everybody? It doesn't mean welcome to a fireside chat.

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Doesn't mean we're live. Oh.

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Thank you, baby.

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Alrighty.

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Go for it. What is up everybody

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and welcome to the WAN Show. I am coming at you live

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from a Microsoft Teams AI replaced background.

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Just kidding, Luke. It's real. I can prove it.

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Oh yeah. Look at that. Let's go.

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Look at the amazing effects. I am in beautiful Connecticut today

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where I've been attending a secret event

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that actually like has a live website.

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It was really cool. I got to meet some incredible creators.

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I met the one and only Alec from Technology Connections.

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I also met Michael Reeves for the first time. That was awesome.

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Got to catch up with Tom Scott. It's been an amazing, amazing couple of days.

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So I'll be talking about that a little bit. And I will also be talking about, oh, I don't know,

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maybe the fact that, sorry, GameStop has offered

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$56 billion for eBay.

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Even though GameStop does not have $56 billion.

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So I definitely have some thoughts on that. What else have we got this week, sir?

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Well, I mean, I offer $57 billion.

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Okay. No, it's a bidding war.

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Thank you. That's helpful. Yes.

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It's just as legitimate of an offer. Did you mention the Valve thing?

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I don't think so. Valve imported 50 tons of something just being

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called game consoles for now. We'll have to speculate on what that might be

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because there's at least a couple of things.

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And Toyota built a $10 billion private utopia tech city.

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What does that even mean? And I got to throw one more in here

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because our headline topic wasn't actually in our four.

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AMD is prepping full HDMI 2.1 implementation for Linux.

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This is super exciting for anyone who's a big gamer on Linux

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or who just loves high resolution and high refresh rate displays over HDMI.

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AMD just keeps being chatted and I absolutely love it.

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Roll that intro.

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This show is brought to you today by Tello,

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Zoho, MSI and Squarespace

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along with our RAP partner D brand, our chair partner Razer and our laptop partner Razer.

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I got to say I am really missing my Razer chair right now.

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There is negative lumbar support on the couch

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that I'm sitting in right now and it is extremely uncomfortable.

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Can't wait to get back to it. But why don't we jump right into our first topic for today,

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which has got to be the big news that AMD is prepping

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full HDMI 2.1 implementation for Linux.

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They submitted patches to add HDMI fixed rate link

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or FRL support to their open source Linux GPU drivers,

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which is a huge step toward full HDMI 2.1 support on Linux.

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FRL is part of the HDMI 2.1 standard

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and enables the higher bandwidth that's needed for higher resolution and refresh rates.

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This is all notable because in 2024,

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the HDMI forum rejected AMD's earlier attempt

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to bring HDMI 2.1 to its open source drivers

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over, you guessed it, concerns about exposing

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proprietary details of the standard, which ain't that the always way

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anytime someone tries to do something really cool

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and just do the work for somebody on Linux,

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some standard's body or some company is like,

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yeah, no, yeah, just no, no.

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An AMD driver engineer confirmed on the Foronix forums

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that a full implementation is on the way,

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pending compliance testing and that display stream

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compression support will follow in a later patch.

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And this change and the timing of it are,

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let's just say, convenient and very interesting

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in light of one of our other headline topics,

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which is, of course, the supposed,

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what was it, 50 tons? Are these metric tons?

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Are these imperial tons? The 50 tons of game consoles that Valve

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has apparently just imported

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because it was a major topic of discussion

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during the announcement of the Steam Machine

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that, hey, it's got kind of a modern GPU in it,

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couldn't help noticing it doesn't support HDMI 2.1.

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What's up with that? Well, if AMD's implementation lands and passes compliance

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and the timing of all of this works out, it could be that SteamOS devices could get HDMI 2.1

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either at or closely near launch.

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We don't know if Valve's been involved in these patches at all,

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but just given how chatted they've been about all of this,

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nothing would really surprise me. Luke, do you want to jump right into the speculation

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around the very, very soon upcoming Steam Machine launch?

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Yeah, between April 30th and May 1st,

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Bra Lynch, who was correct about the Steam Controller

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import documents a couple weeks ago, posted that the United States received a total

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of 50 tons of game consoles from Valve.

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It is unclear if this is the new Steam Machine,

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which would be the console, or the Steam Frame, which is Valve's new VR headset,

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or possibly even just a bunch of Steam decks,

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though unlikely, but they were also game consoles when imported before.

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So it wouldn't be too weird.

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It's worth noting 50 tons is not,

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maybe actually as much as you might think. The Steam Machine was confirmed to weigh around six pounds,

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which would be about 20,000 units,

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which is probably not enough,

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even if you think it's not hyper compelling, because if we look at the Steam Controller,

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which basically every review that I saw was like,

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it's a little expensive for what it is, and then it just instantly sold out.

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It's Steam hardware, it's just going to fly.

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So yeah, I mean, if this is the entirety

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of the initial wave of the Steam Machines, I think they're just going to fly out immediately.

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Yeah. Is it our discussion question on this one,

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or is it our discussion question on a different one?

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Yeah, I don't remember, but I'm going to move our discussion question to this topic.

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Sorry, Elijah included that the math to figure out that it was 20,000 units is accounting for shipping weight,

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and CCAN weight, and things like that. Yeah, okay.

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I guess my question here is,

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ah, yes, this is actually our discussion question

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for the Steam Controller selling out in 30 minutes,

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and it was, you know, given Valve's history with, you know, the Steam Deck,

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was the day one sellout just unavoidable,

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or should a company of Valve's scale have been better prepared?

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And I guess I have the same question

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when we come to the Steam Machine, if, and this is a big if, because we don't know for sure,

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but if this is just 20,000 units of Steam Machines

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for the US market, is Valve being kind of irresponsible

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in launching it with such limited inventory, or is it possible that this is just, you know,

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the first shipment and, you know,

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the next five CCANs coming in are going to mean that we're actually going to have

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a reasonable amount of launch inventory? Like, if they launch this with just 20,000 units,

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is that just kind of asking for trouble from scalpers?

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Because Steam Controllers are going for like hundreds of dollars.

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If this is the Steam Machine,

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basically everyone on the Internet has been saying, ah, I'm not that interested for a long time.

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So, like, if you're, if you're choosing, yes, I still think it's low personally,

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but if you're choosing the stock for this, I can understand being a little bit concerned

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compared to the Steam Deck, even compared to the Steam Controller.

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People were very interested in the Steam Controller, they just said it was expensive,

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and then Steam Hardware is going to be like, whatever, people are going to pay for it anyways.

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But the Steam Machine, like, most of the press I saw on it

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was saying, mmm, it's not super compelling.

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Which, I mean, I still think it's cool.

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Like, if you're Valve, don't you have kind of a,

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don't you have kind of a responsibility to make your products available

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when you say they're available and stop acting like a small company?

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I think the Steam Deck, if I remember correctly,

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sold out pretty much immediately, but then had fairly rapid waves of restocks, did it not?

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Sorry. Oh, yeah.

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Yes, yes, it was restocked pretty rapidly,

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so it was clear that they were kind of, they kind of had staged shipments

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that were sort of in various stages

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of being transported across the ocean at the time.

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It's also possible, though I'm just speculating on this,

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but it is a pretty common strategy, that they would have, if they had like one shipment

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in their warehouse and like one at the dock

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and one at the midpoint of the ocean and one that was just wrapping production,

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sometimes what will happen is if things go way better than expected,

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they'll actually take that one that is just wrapping production,

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throw it on a plane. Yeah. And it'll actually beat any of those other ones

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to the warehouse, so you can kind of, you can kind of massage the availability of things that way,

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like we've had to do that with some of the cables, we've had to air freight them rather than sea freight them,

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just because the demand is so ridiculous.

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But I just, I don't know, man, I, seeing what they did with the controller

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is not really giving me a ton of faith that Valve is adequately stocking this thing.

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And at a certain point, I've actually had a Valve employee say to me,

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like unironically, you know, something, something, something,

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but like, you know, we're a small company,

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so blah, blah, blah. And I go, listen.

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Revenue and profit-wise, you're not a small company at all.

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As a hardware company, they don't ship that much hardware.

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And I think that side of their business is relatively small,

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but still they could not be, as you're saying.

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Yeah. I think as well, it's like scalper bait.

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There's tons of these controllers on like eBay and elsewhere.

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It's tough because I wish that they did more to fight against that,

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but I don't necessarily know what they do.

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That doesn't make it super annoying. One of the things they could have done

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was they could have just not called it the exact same name

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as the original Steam controller, which is causing a lot of OG Steam controllers

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to be sold at scalper prices by, you know,

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two confused relatives or gift givers right now.

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That's true. That's a really frustrating situation

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that was completely avoidable that I raised with Valve

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when they did the unveiling. And I was like, hey, this is a really bad idea.

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I raised it again in the review. And then I just, I don't know, I was feeling kind of sassy

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and I sent them and I told you so as well. I was like, I basically linked them,

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like a bunch of scalper eBay listings.

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And I was like, hey, so just a third time,

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this was super avoidable and you guys didn't have to do this.

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You could have just named it in a way that wasn't confusing. Yeah.

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People are now calling it the Valve Steam controller 2026 model.

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And if Valve had called it that, I wouldn't have even been that mad.

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Would have been a little bit better.

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But they just called it Steam controller, like guys, so avoidable.

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And so I guess I'm just, I guess I'm just kind of,

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this is just kind of a run of avoidable issues from them.

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And I hope that, like, A,

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I hope we give Nintendo enough appreciation

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for what they did with the Switch 2 launch. They took the time, they delayed the launch,

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they built up inventory to make sure that if you wanted

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to switch to pretty much at launch, you could go and get one.

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And that's something that is not necessarily good for their cash flow.

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And to your point, can be a risky thing to do,

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but it's good for your customers. And I want Valve to stop behaving like a scrappy startup

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and act like a real company when it comes to their product launches.

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And I realize this is kind of rich coming from the guy who can't keep his cables in stock for more than flipping 20 minutes, right?

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I get that. But come on, man, I definitely operate with constraints

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that Valve does not have.

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Just doesn't have.

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With all of that said, hey, where are you at for Steam Machine?

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Like, I feel like in the initial launch window, people were super excited.

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The excitement kind of waned as we made our way into the RAM pocket collapse

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and a lot of the pricing estimates for the Steam Machine started to go up.

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Valve clearly has gotten their hands on enough RAM to manufacture the thing

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because they haven't actually delayed the launch outside of Q2,

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which means it's coming in the next seven to eight weeks.

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Where's your bullishness right now? I still think it's super cool.

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I don't think the lack of interest due to RAM pocket collapse has anything to do with Steam Machine.

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I think a very, very significant amount of people are just not interested in computers right now

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because they are, in a lot of ways, kind of boring.

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The most interesting news in computer land right now is people running away from Windows.

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It's not hardware. And then hardware is super, super, super expensive.

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It's just a terrible time to be into computers, unfortunately.

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So I think that is what reduced the interest in the Steam Machine,

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nothing to do with the actual Steam Machine itself.

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Really? I think so. When you look at handhelds, people prefer the Steam Deck mostly

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over pretty much all the alternatives, even though the Steam Deck is pretty old and underperformant

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compared to alternatives at this point. And I think there will be a market of people that will really like a Steam Machine.

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People like Steam Hardware. It's another push forward for Linux, for Steam OS.

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I think both of these things are good. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Steam Machine is at least part of the kick in the pants

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that pushed AMD to try again to push for the HDMI 2.1 thing.

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I think it just keeps progressing this same thing that we've been trying to push for a while now,

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which is Linux for more people. And that's great.

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I think people will buy it. I suspect if it's 20,000 units, it's going to disappear immediately.

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I don't suspect it's going to be like,

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oh my God, this like incredible value option

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that a bunch of people seem to think that it was going to be.

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Does it need to be? I don't think so.

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I wish it was too. But does it need to be in the grand scheme of things

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if what the Steam Machine can accomplish is it can make PC gaming

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a more console-like experience, something that's easier to get into,

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even if the money barrier is still there,

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something that requires less technical know-how.

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If it takes people out of their comfort zone and puts them into Linux,

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if it creates an install base for Linux that incentivizes developers to target this hardware platform,

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can we then forgive Valve if the Steam Machine ultimately is not that affordable?

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There's some people in Flowplain Chat.

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McBain said the Steam Machine will need to be cheap.

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Decox said the deck hit a value proposition.

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I hear what you guys are saying. That's very true.

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The controller sure as heck didn't sold out in 30 minutes.

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I don't think the machine is as compelling as the controller.

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I don't think the machine is as compelling as the deck.

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I think Valve knows both of these things.

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I think for the people who kind of want a home theater machine,

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and it would be pretty cool to have a SteamOS-powered home theater machine,

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paired with the knowledge that is kind of weird and a little bit uncomfortable for me,

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but the knowledge that an incredible amount of people just buy pre-builds.

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This is a cool Steam-powered pre-build that is trendy because it's Linux and SteamOS,

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and it can play all your freaking Steam games, and it's on your TV,

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and your cool new Steam controller works with it, and your Steam Deck and your Steam Machine are kind of in the same ecosystem neat.

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I still think it has all of those things. I don't think it's going to be super price competitive.

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I think for a lot of people it's going to price them out because any computer right now

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is basically going to price out a massive amount of people.

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It just is a fact at the moment,

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but especially if they're bringing in low volume, I think it's going to do well for them,

00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:54.400
and I welcome anything that is honestly going to keep spicing up

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the competition in the operating system space right now because even if Microsoft is waking up a little bit,

00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:07.400
I need them to wake up a lot. Yeah, this is going to sound crazy.

00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.400
Okay, bear with me for a second here.

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So far, I like the new leadership at Xbox.

00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:24.400
Yeah. One of the first things she did was slash the price of Game Pass.

00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.400
Yes, removed day one access to Cod,

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which is a big boatload of suck for people who bought Game Pass just for Cod,

00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:41.400
but in my opinion, actually a boon for everyone who enjoys the variety of Game Pass

00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:47.400
and appreciates that aspect of it more and wants the subscription to be more affordable.

00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:51.400
So I can actually get on board with that move,

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especially someone who doesn't play Cod. So take that for what it is.

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I already like what they're doing with changes to the branding,

00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:08.400
changes to the messaging. That whole this is an Xbox campaign where like a TV is an Xbox,

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an iPad is an Xbox, everything is an Xbox.

00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.400
I understood where they were. I understood what that meant, right?

00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:22.400
I didn't know anyone would like that. But like, you know, how long was Microsoft going to beat that drum

00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:30.400
that the Xbox is not a game console? I mean, after the disastrous launch of the Xbox One with the Kinect module

00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:33.400
and then eventually unbundling the Kinect module and going,

00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:39.400
oh, okay, so it's not the center of your digital life or home media hub or whatever.

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What it feels like to like, how long were they going to keep trying that?

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And it seems like she's saying not anymore.

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She's also saying this isn't in the dock, but I wanted to bring this up anyways.

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I'm going to share my screen. I don't think you can see it, but I'll speak to it.

00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:56.400
Microsoft gives up on Xbox co-pilot AI.

00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:01.400
New Xbox CEO, Asha Sharma, continues to make her mark.

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Windows is winding down. Here's what I'm going with this.

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Here's what I'm going with this. So far, I like her.

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And I think both you and I were really skeptical because we were just like,

00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.400
okay, so what? She comes from like the AI side of the business.

00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.400
Her gaming street cred is functionally zero.

00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:23.400
Other than reducing the price of Game Pass, a lot of it right now is words.

00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.400
So I like the words, but they're good words.

00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.400
They're good words, but I'm still trying to hold powerful words.

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They came to me. Tear streaming down their face.

00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:40.400
I like these words. They said these are the finest words that any man or woman alive has ever,

00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.400
has ever said. I don't know how I ever taste words like this again.

00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:51.400
So, so I like her and I'm going to make a bold prediction right now.

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With Sony being unwilling to just shoulder the cost of selling consoles at a loss,

00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:03.400
they, in an unprecedented move, they raised the price of the PS5.

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Sony has never raised the price of a console before.

00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.400
You, and you can make the argument that when they, when they did the,

00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:13.400
the slim for the PS5, they effectively raised the price.

00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:17.400
And in some ways they like kind of did depending on what configuration you were buying,

00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.400
but they also like didn't.

00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.400
Sony raised the price of a current generation PlayStation 5.

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Never been done before. Nintendo, this is in the dock for this week.

00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.400
Nintendo is raising the price of the Switch too.

00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.400
Yeah. That one, I don't know if it's never been done before,

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but it certainly is not common.

00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.400
Valve has moved away.

00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.400
They, they, or at least it looks like they have signaled a strong intent

00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.400
to move away from what they did with the Steam Deck.

00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:50.400
With the Steam Deck, they got really aggressive.

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And from what I've heard, they weren't selling it at a loss.

00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:58.400
That's not my understanding. But what they did do was they made a huge commitment to AMD.

00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.400
They did that custom silicon and that enabled them,

00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:05.400
that was a big part of what enabled them to hit a hyper aggressive price point

00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.400
and really build an install base for this machine

00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.400
so that developers would have a reason to care about it.

00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:20.400
So, so far, everyone except Microsoft is kind of on defense right now.

00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.400
Do you kind of, are you kind of picking up what I'm throwing down right now?

00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.400
Yeah. Yeah. Microsoft doesn't have much to defend right now.

00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:34.400
What if Microsoft is the one who comes in with Project Helix,

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which is the code name for the next gen Xbox

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and does the like 299 and walks off stage.

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And to be clear, it's not going to be 299.

00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.400
Don't don't live in a diluted La La Land

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where you think you're going to get a console. You said it.

00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.400
No, I know. I don't mean literally 299.

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Honestly, you know, against the backdrop of rising technology prices,

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I think if they walked on stage and even said 499 at this point,

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that would be a mic drop moment.

00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:15.400
I'm not sure how much hope I should have because Microsoft has actually also said prior to Asha Sharma's leadership

00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.400
that the next gen Xbox will be very expensive.

00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:23.400
But like Microsoft has also done a two tiered strategy already twice.

00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:27.400
So just because the X skew is really expensive,

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that doesn't mean that there won't be a really compelling value option.

00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:38.400
We don't know that. So do you have, Luke, can you find, check your pinky.

00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.400
Can you just look at, check your pinky.

00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:46.400
Can you find even like a single tiny bone in your body,

00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:52.400
like a pinky sized bone that contains any hope for Xbox

00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.400
to be the savior of the next generation of consoles.

00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.400
Can you find that hope?

00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.400
He's trying, he's trying folks.

00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.400
Oh my God, the brow fur.

00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:10.400
Oh, I'm watching in real time as you're trying so hard.

00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.400
Oh man. My gut says no, but you are saying one singular bone

00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:21.400
and I have a lot of bones. Yeah, can you bone this?

00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:25.400
I don't know. I can hope, I seriously doubt though,

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if you look at Microsoft's path with Xbox for so long now,

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the answer from them is for sure no.

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But you know, she's also clearly down to try to change the path

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and change the strategy.

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So maybe they figure out, I think it really depends on like,

00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.400
what are the goals that have been given to her?

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Is she supposed to make it so that Xbox isn't the laughing stock

00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:59.400
of consoles anymore in regards to like, when you're saying like,

00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:04.400
people are raising their prices and I'm sitting here being like, yeah, an Xbox is raising their price on what?

00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:09.400
They don't have to raise their price. No one's buying their consoles, it doesn't matter.

00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:14.400
What is that random thing that outsold Xboxes for Christmas?

00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.400
Oh, the next cube. Not the Ooya.

00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.400
Yeah, the next cube or whatever it's called. Is that what it's called?

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.400
Oh man, what is it called? Is it called next cube?

00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.400
Definitely not the Ooya.

00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:31.400
Next cube. No, it's called something else.

00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.400
What am I thinking? So we don't even know the name of it, dude, and it outsold Xbox.

00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.400
That's my point. So like, is from...

00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.400
Next playground. Next playground, that's the one.

00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.400
NEX, not NEX. Yeah. So you were close.

00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:49.400
Yeah, they Xbox connected better than Microsoft was ever able

00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:53.400
to Xbox connect and manage to outsell the Xbox with a console

00:38:53.400 --> 00:39:00.400
that effectively requires a subscription. It's freaking wild that that thing has found that market

00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:03.400
that it has and absolutely killed it the way that they have.

00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:10.400
Kudos to them. Yeah, and it's stomped. So like, is the goal from higher than her that was given to her?

00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.400
Like her KPI for her, not even Microsoft, but for her.

00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.400
Was her KPI, hey, we want to be taken seriously in the console space again.

00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:24.400
We want to sell some freaking consoles and get our name out there and be a big player again, because we're honestly not right now.

00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.400
Or was it just revenue line go up?

00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.400
Because if it was just revenue line, or profit line go up, maybe.

00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.400
Because if it was just that, she might be incentivized to focus on

00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.400
what she's technically been focusing on so far, at least publicly,

00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:43.400
which is game pass and pushing game pass even harder and getting game pass.

00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:48.400
And not including caught in game pass because that costs them a whole bunch of revenue.

00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:52.400
Yeah. So is it those things?

00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:58.400
Or is it make Xbox a console that people actually buy again?

00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.400
Because if it's this one, if it's, hey, we're going to try to invest in the future.

00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.400
We're going to try to get our market share back in the console space.

00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:11.400
We're going to do these things. Yeah. We're going to double down on consoles continuing to exist.

00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:16.400
Because it felt like in the era of like metaverse, VR, all that kind of stuff.

00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.400
Microsoft was just going like, no one's even going to have consoles anymore. Let's ditch them.

00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.400
But that seems to be going away.

00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.400
Yeah. What's up? Okay.

00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:32.400
Okay. Here's what I want to know. I'm actually like hyper interested in your perspective on because I think that you almost

00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:39.400
have like two competing fragments of your soul in your body that are almost,

00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:45.400
that have goals that are almost in perfect conflict with each other.

00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:48.400
Because on the one side, you were an Xbox kid.

00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:53.400
And when you see a green Xbox logo, that makes a little lizard part of your brain light up

00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:56.400
and go, yeah, Xbox. Yep.

00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:59.400
Yeah. Exactly. Right.

00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:07.400
Okay. Okay. Other side of your other fragment of your soul is PC gamer.

00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:13.400
Why would I game on anything that I didn't build with my own two hands or Linus's children built

00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:16.400
it for me or you know, whatever, you know, some, some variant of.

00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:20.400
Why would I play on a computer that wasn't, it didn't have child labor involved.

00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.400
Exactly. What are we even talking about? Good news.

00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:28.400
Good news, Luke. You don't have to. None of us do if we're being very honest.

00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.400
Yeah. Dang. Oh.

00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:36.400
Okay. Let's move on from that really, really fast.

00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:43.400
And, and, and rooting for the customized ability and the DIY spirit of, of PC gaming.

00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:50.400
And I think that part of you has really embraced the way that Microsoft is, is making the PC

00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:55.400
more Xbox like and buying a single license of an Xbox game gives you the right to play

00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:02.400
on PC. And, and I suspect you're also pretty down for like the Xbox full screen experience

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.400
and how it, you know, makes your PC run slightly more efficiently and less like a Windows machine

00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:15.400
and more like a gaming machine. How do those two pieces of you reconcile with each other when we know, when we know in our

00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:22.400
heart of hearts that the thing that makes a console generation successful more than

00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.400
any other, more than any other rule in the playbook.

00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.400
Exclusives. Is exclusive. Yeah.

00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:31.400
See, you knew exactly where I was going with it. What sells consoles.

00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:39.400
So how can Xbox be, come back to its former glory without like dead rising and without

00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:46.400
Halo exclusives and without, without all these things that made the 360 era, the peak of

00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.400
Xbox. What, what would it look like for you?

00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:57.400
Yeah, it's tough. I, the exclusives one is interesting because Sony and Xbox both started pushing games to

00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:01.400
steam. Um, you can, there's a, there's a chart that I saw recently that was super interesting,

00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:06.400
which was like PlayStation exclusives and how they performed on steam.

00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.400
And like Helldivers was way up there.

00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:13.400
And, but a lot of other things did pretty well, but you know, Helldivers killed it.

00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:21.400
Um, but a lot of people, like that's a lot of PlayStation games on PC.

00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:24.400
People are still buying tons of playstations.

00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:30.400
So like, I kind of feel like, uh, you know, then, then putting Microsoft exclusives on

00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:36.400
PlayStation might be the, the too far move in terms of exclusives, but I don't know a

00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.400
hundred percent. I also don't know if this is just my brain trying to convince me this is true or if I

00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:47.400
actually believe it's true, but I don't know that putting games on PC ruins your console

00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:53.400
attractiveness. Now I would also have to dive deeper into the time.

00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:56.400
Do you want to dive first? Or can I counterpoint that first? It's up to you.

00:43:56.400 --> 00:44:00.400
Well, I was going to add a really quick thing basically, but I don't know how PlayStation

00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.400
has done it. I don't know if there's like an exclusive window at the beginning and then they released

00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:11.400
it or not. That's exactly what I was going to bring up is that the PlayStation five generation has

00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.400
been one of shifting strategies.

00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:22.400
Yeah. At the beginning of the generation, there was to my knowledge games that to anyone's

00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:28.400
knowledge were never going to come to another platform or at the very least there was literally

00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:36.400
no given timeline. Then Sony kind of started to do this thing where it turned out they weren't actually

00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:41.400
selling like, you know, a lot of PlayStation games on Steam.

00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:46.400
And they started to talk about, you know, when the window is going to open and when you'll

00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.400
be able to buy these PlayStation games on other platforms.

00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:55.400
Now I don't think this has actually been confirmed formally and someone can correct me if I'm

00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:03.400
wrong. Hit me up in the chat guys, but from my understanding, Sony has now sort of started to look at these

00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:09.400
numbers in the gear up to PlayStation six and gone, okay, we'll hold on a second.

00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:18.400
Maybe we need to dial back this exclusives on PC on Steam strategy because are we selling

00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:24.400
PlayStation fives right now? I would say we're not.

00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:31.400
That's my understanding of kind of where it's at right now.

00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:38.400
So could you see a future where there's a window where Xbox exclusives exist on Xbox

00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:43.400
exclusively for some period of time, a year, year and a half, two years even.

00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:47.400
And then they kind of open up the floodgates and go, okay, let's grab some more extra revenue

00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.400
now that this has moved as many consoles as it will.

00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:53.400
I honestly think even six months would be completely fine.

00:45:53.400 --> 00:46:03.400
The world moves so fast now. One thing that I want to throw out there is this chart from the Alina Insight newsletter, Alina

00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:10.400
Analytics sub-stack. Copy sold, top PlayStation studios games by copy sold.

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You see held by verse two is way, way, way up here. This is sold on Steam.

00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:24.400
I don't have the stats for on PlayStation. As far as my understanding goes, this game sold gangbusters on PlayStation two as well.

00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:29.400
Thank you. It was released simultaneously on PC and PlayStation five.

00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:33.400
It did release on Xbox, but it was way delayed on Xbox.

00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.400
Oh, but closer to the window.

00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:42.400
I was talking about not a year or two years. It looks like it was released on PlayStation and PC in February and it was released on

00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.400
Xbox in August. Same year.

00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:50.400
No, not same year. Next year.

00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:54.400
So it was a pretty big window. 18 months almost.

00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:58.400
That's huge. I mean, we're in pretty uncharted territory right now.

00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:04.400
Pun kind of intended here where this whole thing with exclusive, but like not exclusive,

00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:08.400
but maybe timed, but maybe sometimes not timed.

00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:15.400
I think it's pretty obvious that Nintendo has drawn a clear line in the sand.

00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:20.400
They allow their IPs in other forms of media now.

00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:24.400
There's that mobile Mario Kart game.

00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:30.400
And you know what, actually? I mean, their IPs have actually, I remember.

00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:37.400
What was it? Mario is missing was like a PC Nintendo IP game back from when I was a kid.

00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:45.400
So they allow their IPs on other platforms, but Nintendo seems pretty clear that if you want to play a Nintendo game,

00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.400
you will play it on a Switch console or they will come after you.

00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.400
Yeah. Is this, did I imagine this?

00:47:53.400 --> 00:48:04.400
Maybe it was something else. No, I mean, it shows Super Ness as the image, but it says platforms, MS-DOS, Macintosh, Windows, Ness and Super Ness.

00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.400
I remember seeing it for sale at London Drugs. I've never heard of this before.

00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:14.400
Anyway, I never actually played it. People did not like it so much.

00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.400
Well, okay, maybe that was the one.

00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:22.400
Maybe that was what chased them off the PC in the first place.

00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.400
But okay, so you've laid out your ideal strategy,

00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:30.400
which is that Microsoft doubles down on the Xbox hardware being affordable, right?

00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.400
I don't know if you actually said that, but it was kind of, I asked a pretty leading question.

00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:39.400
If they want consoles to, if they want their console to continue to exist in a meaningful way,

00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:46.400
they need to make a splash back because they're going to have to win everyone that went to PlayStation 5 back,

00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:50.400
which is going to be tough. Yeah.

00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:59.400
So they're going to need to come in and swing in with something big. It would be real good for them if they had a Halo-like game, which,

00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:03.400
what's the last like Microsoft studio game?

00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:06.400
Forza, I guess, would be the last one standing.

00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:09.400
Forza Horizon 6 is coming.

00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:12.400
Yeah, that's coming. It'll be too early for the console launch.

00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:19.400
But in terms of like Blockbuster, first-party Microsoft game,

00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:27.400
or even exclusive game, like I'm having a hard time even thinking of any.

00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:33.400
Yeah. Lightning XCE and chats like, I don't know, Halo 2 remake again.

00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:40.400
Yeah. Yikes, man. So I don't know what they have to like really bring people in.

00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:45.400
And Halo has diminished pretty hard.

00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:50.400
Yeah. I honestly don't know if they're capable of bringing it back.

00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:54.400
Starfield was kind of blech.

00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.400
Yeah. I'm not confident in Bethesda being able to release a good game.

00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:03.400
Don't worry. Activision Blizzard will do it.

00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.400
Yeah, okay.

00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.400
Sure. I don't know.

00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:12.400
They sure spent a lot of money buying some stuff.

00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.400
Okay. No key put together a comprehensive list for us.

00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:19.400
Here we go. Cool. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024.

00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:26.400
Gears of War Reloaded. You look like, you look like, I know it didn't happen because I'm not in the room with you,

00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:30.400
but you look like someone farted. And that's what you look like.

00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:33.400
I know it didn't happen because I'm not in the room with you. It's hilarious.

00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:40.400
He farts on Wancho so much and you guys have no idea.

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Age of Empires 2 definitive edition.

00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.400
Is that helping?

00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:49.400
Ugh. That's just not.

00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.400
A new Fable. Right. You know what?

00:50:52.400 --> 00:51:00.400
A killer Fable game. Dude, the new Fable that doesn't have a character physical changes based on karma status.

00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.400
What? Really? Yeah.

00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:06.400
Do you hear about that? How's it even Fable? Right?

00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:11.400
What are you doing? New Fable won't have... We made a different game and slashed the name on it.

00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.400
Man. This is one of those things that I just kind of, I look at and I go, look.

00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:20.400
I understand from a game developer standpoint and even from like a fan and community standpoint,

00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:26.400
you know, the sequel shouldn't just be like slap a coat of paint on it, force awakens it

00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:29.400
and just make the same thing again, you know?

00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.400
But how can you not...

00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:41.400
Yeah. How can you, how can you take something that was like, like a core standout differentiating

00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.400
feature of the original and just go, eh.

00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:49.400
Dude, when people would tell me about Fable when Fable was first coming out, that was

00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.400
the thing that they would tell you. That was it.

00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:57.400
It's an RPG and the actions that you do physically change your character based on karma status.

00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:04.400
It's like, oh wow, interesting. Boom pointed out, it's like Civ 7 forcing you to switch civs all the time.

00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:08.400
Amazing example of just like, what are you doing?

00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:12.400
Like, I honestly have no interest in ever launching Civ 7 again.

00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:15.400
That game is just cooked in my mind.

00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:18.400
Like, I don't even care about cosmetics.

00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:24.400
Like, you know this, I've never spent a dollar on cosmetics in my life and just out of silent

00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:30.400
protest towards horse armor and everything that followed it, I mean, you know this too.

00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:35.400
I played a bunch of Halo Infinite, I earned a bunch of helmets and armor and like, what

00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:41.400
skins and I stubbornly played with the stock skin no matter what my rank was.

00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:45.400
I actually even did the same thing in Claire Obscure where they're not even, they're not

00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:51.400
even purchasable. I just, I played with the stock outfits the whole game because I'm just like, I don't

00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:56.400
know whether I'm old school or whether I just like can't stand the idea of microtransactions

00:52:56.400 --> 00:53:04.400
and cosmetics in my game. I just, I don't, I don't want to even allow myself to assign a value to my character looking

00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:10.400
a little bit different and I'm probably, yeah, I'm probably, I've gone too far and

00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:13.400
that, that's, that's like, that's totally fine.

00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:20.400
But even for someone like me who goes out of my way to proudly, publicly not care about

00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:28.400
cosmetics in fable, there would have been times when I was like, this quest would be

00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:33.400
easier or this situation would be easier if I just murdered the crap out of everyone

00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:39.400
and I didn't because I didn't want to like Senator Palpatine myself.

00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:46.400
Yeah. And I, and I wanted to, so, so tying the moral choice to your physical appearance in

00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:56.560
that way. It's super interesting. Really impacted gameplay for me in a way that I think would actually be even more impactful

00:53:56.560 --> 00:54:01.080
in the era of in-game cosmetics and in-game outfits.

00:54:01.080 --> 00:54:06.840
And to, to not do that is like actual insanity.

00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.960
People are saying, it's crazy to me, by the way, that apparently Fraxis has announced

00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:18.000
that they are going to maybe be walking the force changing of Civ's back or something.

00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:24.120
I don't know the details. No one linked an article, but multiple people said this look like.

00:54:24.120 --> 00:54:27.280
I don't know. People are saying it might be a different mode now.

00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:32.480
Yeah, they did with the time of update, something, test of time.

00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.280
I don't know, but something may have changed or be changing or something like that.

00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:44.280
But honestly, like I played one match of Civ 7 and every single Civ game that I remember

00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:50.520
playing since I think Civ 4, you play it on launch and it's like, it's a little rough,

00:54:50.520 --> 00:54:53.880
but I see the bones. This will be cool. We'll come back and some updates.

00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:57.120
They release some expansions and it becomes really, really good.

00:54:57.120 --> 00:55:03.120
And then you wait and the next game comes out and the same thing happens. Civ 7 was the first time that I played it was like the bones are rotten.

00:55:03.120 --> 00:55:06.120
Oh, here it is. PCGamer.com.

00:55:06.120 --> 00:55:11.880
Rough. Civ 7 players can once again play as a single civilization in a massive overhaul update

00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:15.520
that is tentatively coming in spring. So it's not here yet.

00:55:15.520 --> 00:55:20.240
These updates are similar in scope to an expansion. So there's hope, Luke.

00:55:20.240 --> 00:55:29.400
Maybe. There is hope. Give up, but I will say like I specifically remember playing Civ 6 and being like, ooh,

00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:34.000
I don't like a lot of these systems. I don't like how this works, but you know, they do this every time I'll just wait and

00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:37.080
then it'll get good. And then I like Civ 6 now.

00:55:37.080 --> 00:55:42.080
I didn't have that reaction playing Civ 7 and you know, if they can pull it out, they

00:55:42.080 --> 00:55:45.080
don't have Luigi anymore. So that'll be rough.

00:55:45.080 --> 00:55:48.080
If they can pull. Jeez. That'll be rough.

00:55:48.080 --> 00:55:51.240
They can pull it off. I think it would be considered a win though.

00:55:51.240 --> 00:55:58.000
They lost their ace in a hole. They lost their six shooter. I don't want to talk about Xbox forever.

00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:04.840
That was crazy what you just said and I'm glad I was talking over it.

00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:11.000
I want to play a fun game before we finally move on from talking about Xbox, but Amakur

00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:15.400
in Floatplane Chat kind of inspired a little short conversation that I want to have with

00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:23.840
chat here and said, if Microsoft bought Project Red and made the Cyberpunk sequel an exclusive

00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:27.080
to Xbox, I would definitely go back.

00:56:27.080 --> 00:56:32.360
I think that's literally the only title I can think of that would bring me back to Xbox.

00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:37.320
And I actually want chat. I want you guys to kind of give me your line.

00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:42.120
Give me your bribe that it would take for Microsoft to win you back.

00:56:42.120 --> 00:56:54.600
That's an interesting question. Yeah. Which are four and Cyberpunk 2087 or something both coming to the new Xbox console would

00:56:54.600 --> 00:57:00.360
be pretty. That'll be a pretty big poll. And one of the things that GTA six, it's not happening.

00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:03.600
It's not relevant. I shouldn't say it's not relevant. It's very relevant.

00:57:03.600 --> 00:57:06.600
Honestly. It's not relevant to this conversation. Yeah.

00:57:06.600 --> 00:57:12.000
Give me something a little more realistic. I think something that's kind of funny about that argument to me is the thing that would

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:19.280
bring you back to Xbox is them buying another game studio and seeing how they've handled

00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:24.000
the ones that they have, like, I would prefer that just doesn't happen.

00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:27.280
I think you have new leadership. I need to.

00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:31.160
I need to try to remember that and have some hope because she's been doing, you know, she's

00:57:31.160 --> 00:57:37.800
been saying good things and has done a good thing so far, but yeah, Peter, just one more

00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:41.040
hit, bro. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

00:57:41.040 --> 00:57:44.040
I don't know, man. Oh, man.

00:57:44.040 --> 00:57:50.360
Elijah says elder school six being exclusive might catOS is like portal three.

00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.800
Okay. We all know that's never happening.

00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:57.320
People got me, man. Titanfall three Titanfall three.

00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:03.760
If they actually made a genuinely good successor to Titanfall two, that would be my hook a hundred

00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.760
percent. I would be done. I'd be cooked.

00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:12.440
But in my opinion, Titanfall two is I don't know how nobody freaking played it because

00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:18.360
EA is dumb and never marketed it, but you look at reviews on Steam overwhelmingly positive.

00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:22.640
Everyone loved it. The community is super strong. That's the like halo.

00:58:22.640 --> 00:58:28.200
That's their halo. If they market Titanfall three properly and they get the IP somehow and they get some of

00:58:28.200 --> 00:58:33.280
the spirit that actually made Titanfall two and they make a genuinely good successor to

00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:35.840
it, that game would. The combat is so fun.

00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:42.200
That game is just, and it's one of those things where it's like, like, you know how, you know

00:58:42.200 --> 00:58:47.560
how wine connoisseurs will talk about the body and the aroma and the whatever, you know,

00:58:47.560 --> 00:58:53.440
we can be the same about games, right? Where we start to kind of pick them apart and we talk about the innovative mechanics

00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:59.120
and the stunning visuals and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:58:59.120 --> 00:59:04.640
But at the end of the day, does any of it matter unless it's fun as we fall to, I could

00:59:04.640 --> 00:59:10.120
say a lot of really sort of pretentious things that are really good about it.

00:59:10.120 --> 00:59:16.320
But at the end of the day, it's fun. Sometimes you're in a mech and it's never not fun.

00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:20.440
The weight and the like, the momentum of this mech, you can like feel it.

00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:26.160
I was never even like a mech warrior kid, but it was like, satisfied and it was great.

00:59:26.160 --> 00:59:31.440
And those combat sequences made sense. You had big weapons and you fought big stuff.

00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:37.600
And then it's kind of like 90s Power Rangers, man, where then that didn't mean that you

00:59:37.600 --> 00:59:45.400
could just solve every problem with your big mech. Sometimes you had to fight on the ground and like cool, like Mirror's Edge, like Parkour

00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:50.160
and like running and sliding and like really satisfying gun combat too.

00:59:50.160 --> 00:59:54.080
It's just such a fun game. Okay. Okay.

00:59:54.080 --> 00:59:56.120
I think we're starting to lay a groundwork here, Luke.

01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:09.520
That would be massive as well. They need to do Titanfall too.

01:00:09.520 --> 01:00:17.120
Cod is going to be Cod, right? But I don't think at this point you can make Cod Xbox exclusive.

01:00:17.120 --> 01:00:21.400
I don't think there's any putting, closing that Pandora's box again.

01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.400
Yeah. I don't think they should, to be honest.

01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:31.360
Keep some. If I'm trying to think, if I'm trying to fully put my Microsoft hat on, I don't think they

01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:35.280
should do that with Cod. I don't think so either. Yeah.

01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:38.280
Taking Cod off PC would be crazy work at this point.

01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:42.160
Obsidian-based New Vegas sequel.

01:00:42.160 --> 01:00:46.200
I don't think they can do, I don't think they even should do a New Vegas sequel to be honest.

01:00:46.200 --> 01:00:51.600
I think just doing an Obsidian-based Fallout though could be pretty sick.

01:00:51.600 --> 01:00:57.880
If they get Bethesda to just really actually make a good game again, and they focus on

01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:08.760
Elder Scrolls 6 and just leave them there and get Obsidian to wake up and make things

01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:16.760
and make Fallout, that'd be awesome. They somehow get the IP and actually do write by it with Titanfall.

01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:23.280
That would be amazing. Honestly, I don't think they can make Halo.

01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.360
I feel like Halo's aged out.

01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:33.120
I don't know how you fix it. I think maybe if you get off of Spartans or something, like if you focus on-

01:01:33.120 --> 01:01:37.080
What is even Halo without Spartans though? Come on. Yeah.

01:01:37.080 --> 01:01:40.440
If you somehow focus on- How about without ring-shaped planets too?

01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:43.440
You know? What are we even talking about? Yeah.

01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:46.440
I'm not sure. Yeah. People said ODST.

01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:52.280
There's ODST. Madscribe says, hey, Steam Controller has a reservation queue now, so if you want one,

01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.800
that's probably the way to do it, so if you don't want to get scalped on that.

01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:59.480
Man, don't pay $300 for a Steam Controller.

01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:05.520
It's a good controller. At $100, it was kind of hard for me to wholeheartedly recommend.

01:02:05.520 --> 01:02:08.760
At $300, it is impossible for me to recommend.

01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:13.400
Yeah, I don't. Go sign up for the queue.

01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:18.000
Give Valve your money, not predatory scalpers. I don't know why I have to say this.

01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:22.040
If we all just got together and never paid a scalper for anything, they wouldn't exist

01:02:22.040 --> 01:02:25.720
anymore and it would be a better world.

01:02:25.720 --> 01:02:28.840
Don't do that. But let's move on.

01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:32.320
We should probably get some sponsors done. Hey, Dan. I can't see your thing.

01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:38.720
Why don't I jump into the CW announcements first? We actually have a pretty loaded up week for CW.

01:02:38.720 --> 01:02:45.600
Some of you have noticed this already, but to celebrate our new website, dbrand, Luke,

01:02:45.600 --> 01:02:49.360
do you want to share your screen? Yeah, let me get there.

01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:59.280
Dbrand products, select dbrand products are now available on LTTstore.com with exclusive

01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:07.000
colorways, ghost and green circuit that look absolutely flipping amazing.

01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:13.160
The best part is that unlike if you order these products from Dbrand's website, you

01:03:13.160 --> 01:03:20.880
will actually get both the ghost circuit skin and the green circuit skin for the product

01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:30.880
that you select. So we've got skins for Switch 2, as well as for Steam Deck, for key modern phones.

01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:41.080
I've actually gotten a ton of comments on my green circuit skin here.

01:03:41.080 --> 01:03:47.880
It's got just very OG classic circuit board vibes, and then we've got the white one.

01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.280
The ghost circuit has a super cool prismatic.

01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:58.480
You'll have to find maybe another shot too. Dan has some shots on his computer that show how it catches the light.

01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:05.720
Dan, do you want to show those and just go back to ... Yeah, you can see it on the bottom

01:04:05.720 --> 01:04:08.720
there. What else you got? Hit me.

01:04:08.720 --> 01:04:14.560
Yeah, you can see it at the bottom of the phone there. Yeah. It's super cool.

01:04:14.560 --> 01:04:18.640
Dude was up in Floatplane chess. I knew you were using a skin that wasn't a thing before.

01:04:18.640 --> 01:04:21.800
You ignored me for a reason. I understand. I'm not mad at you anymore.

01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:24.800
I'm glad we're good. I'm glad we're good. Dude was up.

01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:29.680
Anyway, freaking excited about this partnership.

01:04:29.680 --> 01:04:36.120
So now if you wanted to get a Dbrand case for your device, then you can also pick up

01:04:36.120 --> 01:04:39.320
some awesome stuff from LTTstore.com at the same time.

01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:44.240
And I've got a couple of things that you can pick up that are new.

01:04:44.240 --> 01:04:49.840
For this week, we're launching our LTT Precision Multi-Bit Standard Kit.

01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:56.080
So a little while ago, we rebranded the Precision Kit Pro, and that was in preparation for this

01:04:56.080 --> 01:05:00.640
because we now have two tiers of our Precision Multi-Bit Screwdrivers.

01:05:00.640 --> 01:05:04.120
This one is designed for everyday repairs, upgrades, and tinkering.

01:05:04.120 --> 01:05:08.920
It covers the most useful precision bits, and one compact package has the same premium

01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:13.920
LTT build quality with an anodized aluminum handle, magnetic bit retention, a stainless

01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:17.960
steel internal shaft, and an end cap that spins suspiciously well for something meant

01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:23.960
to be a screwdriver. It builds on the best-selling Precision Pro, and it packs the most useful bits, a removable

01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:31.120
crossbar for stubborn screws. That's new, and a magnetic organizer case into one compact everyday kit.

01:05:31.120 --> 01:05:40.480
So the main difference here, guys, is that it ... Hold on, I'm actually trying to think.

01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:46.760
How many bits are included? It's bit changes, so this one has 31, and the big one has 61.

01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:50.960
And then Luke, if you zoom in, you can actually see there's a hole through the driver now

01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:54.200
that you can use that torque bar on.

01:05:54.200 --> 01:05:59.120
And so it doesn't have the internal bit storage in the driver anymore, but some people actually

01:05:59.120 --> 01:06:07.680
prefer this style anyway. So we've got that launching this week, and then finally, we're adding new colors to the

01:06:07.680 --> 01:06:17.800
blank t-shirt lineup. We're getting a seasonal refresh with grape, jade gray, and coffee, excuse me, coffee.

01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:21.240
Same lightweight fabric, refined fit, and all the overthinking that went into making

01:06:21.240 --> 01:06:28.040
a genuinely good blank tee, and also available in tall, because finding basics that actually

01:06:28.040 --> 01:06:35.920
fit shouldn't feel like a side quest. Love that. Love that tagline, so guys, you can check out the new blank tees.

01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:41.680
I think that's it for Creator Warehouse stuff. Oh, okay, this is interesting.

01:06:41.680 --> 01:06:50.920
We have a new mailing list. We're offering a single use, 10% off LTT Store coupon for people who sign up to be notified

01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:57.440
on all future drops. We have 85 plus more products still launching this year, and you can be among the first

01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:02.000
to know. The coupon is valid for the next seven days, and you can sign up at lttstore.com slash

01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.120
pages slash welcome.

01:07:05.120 --> 01:07:09.400
Oh, I guess we should jump into a few comms.

01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:12.400
We believe that when you throw money at your screen, when you're watching your favorite

01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:17.680
creators or podcasts or whatever else it is, that you should get more than just the self-satisfaction

01:07:17.680 --> 01:07:22.440
of supporting a show that you like. You should get quality products in the mail.

01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:28.040
So we did away with super chats and Twitch bits and all that other stuff, and we consolidated

01:07:28.040 --> 01:07:31.600
all the contributions to the show into checkout messages.

01:07:31.600 --> 01:07:37.680
All you got to do to send a checkout message is what Luke's doing. He's presumably adding something to his cart.

01:07:37.680 --> 01:07:41.600
There he goes. He's adding something to his cart, and he's going to show you guys the interface.

01:07:41.600 --> 01:07:47.720
Once you're in the checkout, you will see the box to type up a little checkout message.

01:07:47.720 --> 01:07:55.080
There it is. You can choose your color. You can make your name show up if you wanted to, if, I don't know, if you want your name

01:07:55.080 --> 01:08:01.440
to show up on screen. You can make it anonymous. And then when you guys are done typing up your message while we're live, it'll go to

01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:08.960
producer Dan, there he is, who will respond to it or curate it for me and Luke to respond

01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:13.440
to, and we'll show you guys how that works. Do you have a couple of checkout messages for us, Dan?

01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:16.440
I do, yes. I've got a few here. All right.

01:08:16.480 --> 01:08:21.680
LLD, Live Leaks and Damage Control, how many times have you blamed a company for a product

01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:28.960
not working when it's because of you, and you will not admit it?

01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:40.920
I've definitely blamed companies for things not working and it turned out to be user error.

01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:46.280
I am open to a time that I have done that and not followed up.

01:08:46.280 --> 01:08:53.760
Can you think of the most maybe interesting one when it was, it wasn't Jimmy Fallon's

01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:57.200
show, that one just actually didn't work.

01:08:57.200 --> 01:09:01.760
Can you think of maybe the most interesting one where it was user error and you ended

01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:04.800
up figuring it out later?

01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:10.880
Let me think. I'd say that it happens a lot more, like Live on WAN Show, where I'll be like, oh, I

01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:16.320
can't get my iPhone to do this because I'm not fact checking everything for WAN Show.

01:09:16.320 --> 01:09:21.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. I don't fact check everything in my life anyway.

01:09:21.480 --> 01:09:30.000
Yeah, of course, chat's going to go there, Billet Labs, question mark.

01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.600
My issue with Billet Labs was not that the temperatures weren't good though.

01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:39.120
The reason that I was dismissive of the product is for all the reasons that it failed anyway,

01:09:39.120 --> 01:09:43.240
which is that it was expensive, it didn't fit in any case that existed or would ever

01:09:43.240 --> 01:09:48.480
exist. Based on your technical thing, you were saying that you didn't, because you guys did use

01:09:48.480 --> 01:09:51.800
it wrong, right? You used it on the wrong card or something. Yeah, we used it on the wrong card.

01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:56.520
So they told us it might work on this GPU, but it's designed for this other one.

01:09:56.520 --> 01:10:01.520
And I put it on the GPU that it didn't work on and the temperature sucked.

01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:05.600
But by that time, I had already had to modify my motherboard to get it to fit.

01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:14.840
I had already determined that it was not actually good to put in any case anywhere ever.

01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:22.520
I had already, from my experience as a water cooling product, product manager, I had already

01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:26.800
determined that there was never going to be a follow up to this thing, because I don't

01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:31.720
think people even remember this video at this point. They're just mad, right?

01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:36.760
So part of the pitch for it was like, hey, if your GPU changes, but you keep your CPU,

01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:39.760
you don't have to throw away the whole thing, you could like, you could like have like a

01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:43.640
GPU replacement. Yeah, they never made that because that was never.

01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:48.160
All I was trying to bring up was that I think we did talk on Wansho about how you technically

01:10:48.160 --> 01:10:51.640
didn't use the fully appropriate card.

01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:55.040
So it wasn't that you didn't address that. Oh yeah.

01:10:55.040 --> 01:10:58.360
Oh, we totally addressed that. It just wasn't the problem with the product.

01:10:58.360 --> 01:11:02.520
The problem with the product was that it was a bad product and it didn't matter how

01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:10.760
it performed because you can only get water cooling to ambient temperature, right?

01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:15.880
And water cooling CPUs and GPUs has been mostly an optimization problem for like many years

01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:18.960
at this point. We saw this when we did water cooling through the ages.

01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:26.160
So no amount of reducing that sort of that narrow performance band was going to make

01:11:26.200 --> 01:11:29.960
this totally senseless product make any sense.

01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:34.960
So and I've been completely validated on that.

01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:40.480
They did one production run and then never made it again in spite of all of the attention

01:11:40.480 --> 01:11:44.960
that it got, like millions upon millions upon millions of impressions for this product.

01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.680
I mean, I still don't think it was handled properly, but no, no, it wasn't.

01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:55.920
No question, no question. But it was doomed from the start and I don't think we need to go over it all again.

01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:00.960
I know about another one. What else we got?

01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:08.880
Anyone got anything? There was, wasn't there some time you said something about a drive on like the PlayStation

01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.880
or something? And. Oh, yeah.

01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:14.880
But we did a whole video. No, I'm not.

01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:19.120
I'm the core question because we got way off track here.

01:12:19.120 --> 01:12:23.960
The core question was, what do you think was the most interesting time that something

01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:30.440
went wrong because of user error? And then, you know, we, we addressed it or whatever, because it's going to happen many,

01:12:30.440 --> 01:12:34.600
many times. We've been making content for way too many years. So what do you think is the most interesting one?

01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:38.120
I don't need you to like defend something.

01:12:38.120 --> 01:12:44.800
It's just what, what do you think was the most interesting one? I mean, I don't think the PlayStation one might not be a good example.

01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:52.020
I was just trying to throw options out there. And when I'm, when I'm thinking interesting, I'm thinking like it was, you know, the reason

01:12:52.020 --> 01:12:56.300
why the user error happened might have been because they did something in a, in a very

01:12:56.300 --> 01:13:03.540
interesting but non-standard way. So it kind of like was intriguing when you figured out that it was, it was user error

01:13:03.540 --> 01:13:09.300
and it ended up making the product like cooler potentially, not temperature wise, like interest

01:13:09.300 --> 01:13:13.940
wise. I mean, it wasn't user error, but I think my favorite product that I was ever completely

01:13:13.940 --> 01:13:17.940
wrong about was probably the Logitech G Cloud.

01:13:17.940 --> 01:13:25.500
I just completely underestimated what a great experience that product would be for the right,

01:13:25.500 --> 01:13:29.460
for the right user. And it's still not something that I find myself using.

01:13:29.460 --> 01:13:32.900
Like there's one in our warehouse, I, I don't use it.

01:13:32.900 --> 01:13:38.940
But when I did take it home and use it for a while, I was like, oh, I get it now.

01:13:38.940 --> 01:13:43.700
Cause it was like so light and the battery life was so great.

01:13:43.700 --> 01:13:53.940
And I had been so, so dismissive of that.

01:13:53.940 --> 01:14:01.900
I think that's probably, I think that's probably the, the coolest product that I've ever been

01:14:01.900 --> 01:14:05.940
like totally, totally wrong about.

01:14:05.940 --> 01:14:10.620
Can you think of any? Like are there, are there any that you were just like, yeah, this, this thing is useless

01:14:10.620 --> 01:14:17.660
and stupid. I mean, we've disagreed on, on things many a time over the years, but that makes sense.

01:14:17.660 --> 01:14:28.380
I can't really think of like, I, again, that isn't really at the core of the question.

01:14:28.380 --> 01:14:31.380
So I think, I think we just move on to the next one.

01:14:31.380 --> 01:14:34.380
Sure. Yeah. And you know what?

01:14:34.380 --> 01:14:39.220
Realistically, there's probably something that I've gotten wrong that I just don't even

01:14:39.220 --> 01:14:44.380
know yet. Like if, if anyone, that's why I kind of wanted to go to chat because if there was something

01:14:44.380 --> 01:14:50.580
that you guys saw that, that, that we kind of, that we got, that we got wrong, that I

01:14:50.580 --> 01:14:58.260
have not acknowledged yet, then I'm happy to, I'd like to bring back kick farted kick

01:14:58.260 --> 01:15:04.580
starters, not like the same anymore. It still exists, but it's, it's a totally different world.

01:15:04.580 --> 01:15:09.100
It's honestly, I'm assuming like a marketing probably better now.

01:15:09.100 --> 01:15:13.300
Yeah. It used to be like the freaking Wild West.

01:15:13.300 --> 01:15:17.580
And now there's, there's a lot of companies that like are Kickstarter companies kind of

01:15:17.580 --> 01:15:21.820
like they, they almost exclusive, like they, they barely even have their own websites that

01:15:21.820 --> 01:15:26.740
basically just functioned through Kickstarter, Kickstarter is where they launch every product,

01:15:26.740 --> 01:15:34.340
product that they make, like these are, these are totally a thing, which is, which is cool.

01:15:34.340 --> 01:15:39.540
It just makes it less interesting in a kick farted stance for people that don't know what

01:15:39.580 --> 01:15:43.740
we're talking about. We used to have a series called kick farted. I don't think there was a, I think there's maybe like three of them.

01:15:43.740 --> 01:15:46.740
We did like two episodes or three or something like that. Yeah.

01:15:46.740 --> 01:15:51.420
Yeah. But it was, we would, we would back a Kickstarter and the idea was that we'd actually hope that

01:15:51.420 --> 01:15:57.140
it did ship, which was another flaw with the plan because sometimes they just wouldn't

01:15:57.140 --> 01:16:05.180
end up shipping at all. But we would back a Kickstarter, hope that it would ship and then, you know, our bet

01:16:05.180 --> 01:16:10.060
basically was that it was going to be junk. Yeah. If it's good, then it's a review of a cool product.

01:16:10.060 --> 01:16:12.780
Yeah. And then if it's bad, then it's kick farted. Kick farted.

01:16:13.380 --> 01:16:18.580
But it turns out the, the overlap between ideas that were good enough to eventually

01:16:18.580 --> 01:16:25.980
get manufactured, but so bad that they were completely dead on arrival.

01:16:26.020 --> 01:16:31.340
And it's worth crashing, basically. Is, yeah, it's like really, really, really small.

01:16:31.580 --> 01:16:32.900
Yeah. Yeah.

01:16:34.820 --> 01:16:38.180
Yeah. It was fun to make those. I had a, they were, they were fun to shoot.

01:16:38.180 --> 01:16:42.660
They were fun to write for. It was actually kind of fun testing those types of products.

01:16:43.780 --> 01:16:50.020
But yeah, it's just the like limited inventory of what types of things you can

01:16:50.020 --> 01:16:54.100
actually do that with just sort of kind of ran out.

01:16:54.100 --> 01:16:58.380
I'm sure there's been examples since then, but we haven't paid enough attention that

01:16:58.380 --> 01:17:01.380
you would have to, to be able to do that over time.

01:17:01.380 --> 01:17:08.260
And I don't think really anyone has like Kickstarter was, had this like super,

01:17:08.260 --> 01:17:12.420
super powerful moment of relevance.

01:17:12.460 --> 01:17:16.620
And I think it's kind of in the past now.

01:17:18.780 --> 01:17:23.100
Yeah. I mean, there are still things that just go freaking gangbusters on Kickstarter.

01:17:23.100 --> 01:17:26.420
Oh, dude. I mean, I'm holding one. Yeah.

01:17:26.420 --> 01:17:30.740
Yeah. Yeah. That's a good example. Like Kickstarter is still a really big deal.

01:17:31.020 --> 01:17:39.500
It's just not, you know, it's not in the news like every freaking week like it was

01:17:39.500 --> 01:17:45.140
before like, yeah, this, this Lay the Spire downfall board game campaign.

01:17:45.580 --> 01:17:53.140
It's, it's a, it's a board game that raised 7.6 million dollars.

01:17:53.780 --> 01:17:58.500
Wow. But then I mean, that's like, that's an established IP too.

01:17:58.540 --> 01:18:01.700
But that's, that's what I'm saying. That's a lot of Kickstarter now. Yeah.

01:18:01.700 --> 01:18:06.820
Just using it as, using it as marketing slash as a, as a cash flow exercise.

01:18:06.820 --> 01:18:16.340
Like we've got a product coming. It's the one that I was alluding to that in order for us to manufacture enough of

01:18:16.340 --> 01:18:24.580
them, probably the best way to raise that money outside of like, you know, taking

01:18:24.620 --> 01:18:28.140
private equity or venture capital or whatever outside of taking outside

01:18:28.140 --> 01:18:35.500
capital would probably be to essentially crowdfund the, the costs of the first

01:18:35.500 --> 01:18:41.380
production run by announcing it early and, and like doing a Kickstarter campaign.

01:18:41.660 --> 01:18:45.300
I don't think that we would bother to use the Kickstarter platform.

01:18:45.340 --> 01:18:49.260
If it was us, like I gotta imagine there's like a Shopify plugin for that, right?

01:18:50.940 --> 01:18:53.180
But yeah, pre-orders basically.

01:18:54.180 --> 01:18:59.260
I mean, essentially, but part of the fun of Kickstarter is that it's at like

01:18:59.260 --> 01:19:04.100
different tiers. So if you get in really, really early, it's at like a crazy good price or it

01:19:04.100 --> 01:19:08.500
comes with extra, it comes with a hat that's like, yeah, I backed it first or like

01:19:08.500 --> 01:19:11.340
building these kind of these bundles. We have, we have the ability to do that.

01:19:11.820 --> 01:19:15.580
Yeah. Yeah. I think we could do that. Remember the wave system that we had for the backpack?

01:19:16.380 --> 01:19:21.700
Yeah. I remember the wave system. Pretty sure you could just use that to, to like change it as it goes.

01:19:22.620 --> 01:19:25.940
Master of None says, aren't there strict rules regarding the use of crowdfunding

01:19:25.940 --> 01:19:30.180
capital? I don't believe you're allowed to spend that money. No, no, no, but we would be spending the money to make the product.

01:19:30.180 --> 01:19:35.380
So that would be fine. So that's what I mean by like raising money to do the first production run.

01:19:35.700 --> 01:19:40.460
It would be to make the products that people are buying.

01:19:40.980 --> 01:19:45.500
You're just, you're selling it at a discount so that you can, so that you can

01:19:45.540 --> 01:19:50.980
scale it up faster so that you can get the money in ahead of time so that you

01:19:50.980 --> 01:19:55.940
can produce it all, all in one go rather than doing a small production run and

01:19:55.940 --> 01:19:59.660
then selling that and then using that cash to buy twice as many and then selling

01:19:59.660 --> 01:20:03.620
that and then using that cash to buy twice as many, which is like a many months long process.

01:20:07.180 --> 01:20:12.180
Yeah. Like I'm going through the technology section on Kickstarter right now and.

01:20:13.100 --> 01:20:15.540
Yeah. Bring it up. Let's see. I don't, I can see your screen share.

01:20:16.580 --> 01:20:18.980
Oh, really? Cool. There's like a kalimba.

01:20:19.780 --> 01:20:24.460
What's a kalimba? It's a musical thing. You, you push down the like middle prong.

01:20:24.500 --> 01:20:27.140
It goes. Yeah. Okay.

01:20:27.500 --> 01:20:31.100
So okay. There's a 3D printing modular ARM system.

01:20:31.940 --> 01:20:36.620
Neat. I mean, I'm assuming you're just, I want to see the kalimba actually, because it

01:20:36.620 --> 01:20:39.660
looks like an electronic kalimba. It is sick. Yeah.

01:20:39.780 --> 01:20:42.860
Okay. But like raised half million USD. Sure.

01:20:43.020 --> 01:20:46.140
But are like, is Linus Tech Tips going to make a video about an electronic

01:20:46.140 --> 01:20:52.100
kalimba? Probably not. Heck no. So that's not, it's not really like topic relevant for, for us.

01:20:52.180 --> 01:20:55.580
Um, if it makes Dan happy, it's relevant for us.

01:20:55.580 --> 01:21:00.780
Luke, come on. Is that a granular delay? What is all this cool audio crap on?

01:21:01.100 --> 01:21:05.260
It seems like there's a decent amount of interesting audio stuff.

01:21:05.540 --> 01:21:07.220
Floor washing robot.

01:21:11.460 --> 01:21:15.060
I don't know, man. Wow, a table. RC tank.

01:21:15.260 --> 01:21:18.660
Like a lot of this isn't stuff that I would see and be like, oh, yeah, kick farted.

01:21:18.780 --> 01:21:21.620
Cool. Maybe, maybe some AI glasses.

01:21:21.780 --> 01:21:27.340
This all looks like relatively competent. But then there's so many AI glasses coming out that I feel like we'd be

01:21:27.340 --> 01:21:31.580
better off just making videos about AI glasses in general.

01:21:31.620 --> 01:21:35.340
Yeah, like it, it doesn't really scream that it needs a kick farted.

01:21:35.580 --> 01:21:41.020
There's a keyboard. Look at this lens. That is a comical sticking off of that lens.

01:21:41.060 --> 01:21:46.020
Yeah. Okay. So it's just like, I don't know, man.

01:21:46.220 --> 01:21:51.540
I don't see kick farted making sense here. McBain says LMG doesn't need Kickstarter.

01:21:51.540 --> 01:21:56.860
Just use pre-orders. So pre-orders have always been kind of an uncomfortable thing for me.

01:21:56.860 --> 01:21:58.620
And it kind of the same deal.

01:22:00.300 --> 01:22:04.020
Oh, it's totally the same deal, but we've, we've always shied away from it.

01:22:04.100 --> 01:22:09.940
Like if you recall, like even the screwdriver in the backpack where we made major bets, we, we basically were like, you should never pre-order.

01:22:12.180 --> 01:22:20.140
You know, I don't know for sure that you'll like it. You should wait for third party, you know, evaluations at this point.

01:22:20.580 --> 01:22:25.940
I am, I am starting to recognize that at the scale that we're operating at and

01:22:25.940 --> 01:22:32.580
at the experience that our team has, I'm a lot more confident taking people's

01:22:32.580 --> 01:22:38.580
money ahead of time for something that is on track, that is, is hitting all of

01:22:38.580 --> 01:22:43.140
its milestones and the project, which is no, is not the battery bank.

01:22:43.140 --> 01:22:49.420
It's actually a different one. The project is coming along really, really well to the point where

01:22:52.780 --> 01:23:00.540
if I know that this thing is going to absolutely be super, super exciting for

01:23:00.540 --> 01:23:08.380
people and they're going to absolutely freaking love it. And if there's some, something else that we could do, or even nothing else that

01:23:08.380 --> 01:23:11.620
we could do, I was thinking like we could do like a satisfaction guaranteed

01:23:12.460 --> 01:23:18.660
policy or something like that. But I don't think for sanitary reasons, this would be a good product for us to

01:23:18.660 --> 01:23:22.460
take a bunch of returns for anyway, so that could get complicated.

01:23:22.460 --> 01:23:26.140
I don't know. I'll have to think about it some more. Interesting question from McBain.

01:23:26.500 --> 01:23:28.420
Why not enable pre-orders for the cables?

01:23:29.780 --> 01:23:33.180
You've already shipped a tunnel. All right. Yeah. And you know what? I could do that.

01:23:33.180 --> 01:23:37.980
I could, I could take realistically, I could probably have like millions of

01:23:37.980 --> 01:23:41.420
dollars sitting in the LMG coffers right now.

01:23:41.500 --> 01:23:45.820
Who want to wait for a cable? But riddle me this, right?

01:23:47.340 --> 01:23:52.820
Right now, McBain, you're probably a little irritated that you'd like to buy

01:23:52.820 --> 01:23:56.980
this cable and you can't get it. But what if it takes six months?

01:23:57.980 --> 01:24:02.180
What if I had your money? Then how irritated are you?

01:24:03.900 --> 01:24:11.940
And that's always, that's always been the challenge for me. Like we're our manufacturer, literally in the process of building more capacity

01:24:12.060 --> 01:24:17.580
just for us, because the demand for this thing is, is completely beyond the

01:24:17.580 --> 01:24:20.300
expectations that we had and that they had.

01:24:22.820 --> 01:24:24.940
And so I don't know.

01:24:25.860 --> 01:24:34.100
I like, we're, we're in uncharted territory here. I don't know how long it's going to take us to, to be able to meet the

01:24:34.100 --> 01:24:37.140
demand that is there for these, these freaking cables.

01:24:37.540 --> 01:24:42.820
And so I, I don't know how to, I don't know, ah, man.

01:24:43.260 --> 01:24:46.860
Yeah. So, so it comes back to me saying the same, taking the same principle

01:24:46.860 --> 01:24:54.740
of the stands I had before, which is I really don't want to have your money and be in a position where, you know, there could be a mismatch between

01:24:54.740 --> 01:24:58.220
what I'm promising and what you're expecting, both in terms of timeline and

01:24:58.220 --> 01:25:05.340
in terms of product quality, right? So I, uh, yeah.

01:25:05.340 --> 01:25:13.300
And, and someone had a good suggestion. Uh, I missed who's, I missed the username for it, but it was, um, uh, you

01:25:13.300 --> 01:25:16.340
know, you could just take like a little bit of pre-order. What about a little bit of pre-order?

01:25:16.540 --> 01:25:23.020
So we actually did that. Uh, remember when there was like a second wave that like went up for sale, that

01:25:23.020 --> 01:25:26.740
was someone else in the company making a decision that we were going to take

01:25:26.780 --> 01:25:32.340
pre-orders on the cables we were going to make out of the extra cable stock

01:25:32.340 --> 01:25:36.420
that we had that was like sitting, staged, ready to go.

01:25:38.340 --> 01:25:42.820
People still lost their minds waiting for those.

01:25:42.860 --> 01:25:46.340
And it causes a whole bunch of tickets to customer service who otherwise

01:25:46.340 --> 01:25:52.220
just wouldn't have to deal with that. And, and what I said when I was kind of lecturing, not one person, but like

01:25:52.220 --> 01:25:57.060
the team that made that decision on like why I had decided we weren't going

01:25:57.060 --> 01:26:03.500
to do that was guys, why did we make this decision?

01:26:03.820 --> 01:26:06.900
Did it lead to a better experience for our customer? Yes or no.

01:26:07.020 --> 01:26:10.060
Is it just a communications problem? Uh, yeah.

01:26:10.100 --> 01:26:14.900
Well, it's part of it, but communications hard. You can put as much communication on a web page as you want.

01:26:14.900 --> 01:26:20.780
People won't read it. It doesn't matter. So, so did this make, did this make the experience better for our customer?

01:26:20.780 --> 01:26:24.580
Yes or no? It, no or neutral basically was the response.

01:26:24.620 --> 01:26:29.140
Like, okay, did this make us more money? Right. Like that motivates businesses, right?

01:26:29.220 --> 01:26:31.260
Businesses make decisions to make more money.

01:26:32.380 --> 01:26:36.740
And the answer again is no, because we were going to sell those cables the second

01:26:36.740 --> 01:26:42.020
that they reached our dock, regardless of whether we took people's money ahead of time or whether we take people's money when they arrive.

01:26:42.140 --> 01:26:47.900
So again, the answer is no. So all we're doing is we're putting a little bit of cash in our bank account

01:26:48.020 --> 01:26:51.660
from our customers today, and we're holding it.

01:26:52.580 --> 01:26:58.180
So why don't we let them keep it? Um, is it a communications thing?

01:26:58.220 --> 01:27:03.340
Because the backpacks, I don't, I don't remember if people were upset or not,

01:27:03.340 --> 01:27:07.980
but it, as the waves went on, we would just tell people the estimated

01:27:07.980 --> 01:27:13.460
shipping time from, from my interpretation of the story that you just told is we

01:27:13.460 --> 01:27:15.980
didn't tell people that there would be a different shipping time.

01:27:16.980 --> 01:27:21.580
Um, we did, but maybe we could have done it like even more in your face.

01:27:21.620 --> 01:27:26.780
Um, but even then, you know, you still get, with the wave system, we still

01:27:26.780 --> 01:27:31.220
had people who were upset about that, like, and who just felt it was really ridiculous.

01:27:31.220 --> 01:27:38.620
I get that. I get that. Um, and so I've just, I've always had, uh, you know, sitting next to shout out

01:27:38.620 --> 01:27:45.220
Corbin from NCIX, all right. I, I, I worked in customer service sometimes in the early days, not because it

01:27:45.220 --> 01:27:50.180
was necessarily in my job description, but because when we had like holiday rushes

01:27:50.180 --> 01:27:53.780
and, and big sale events or big launches and stuff like that, uh, customer

01:27:53.780 --> 01:27:57.700
service would get overwhelmed and they would just kind of call on random people

01:27:57.700 --> 01:28:01.540
who knew our system well enough and were technical enough. And I happened to be one of them.

01:28:01.540 --> 01:28:06.740
So, you know, sometimes I would work in customer service and I would, I would

01:28:06.740 --> 01:28:12.620
sit there, I'd sit in the bullpen and, you know, I'd hear the exasperated voice

01:28:12.620 --> 01:28:19.540
of Mr. Corbin, uh, explaining to someone for the, for the, for the 13th time on this

01:28:19.540 --> 01:28:25.660
call that, Hey, when you ordered this, it said ships in seven, eight to 11 days.

01:28:25.660 --> 01:28:28.900
Or, you know, whatever it says, special order ships in eight to 11 days.

01:28:29.300 --> 01:28:33.500
Uh, we shipped it on the 10th day, shipping's not magic.

01:28:33.500 --> 01:28:36.860
It's still going to be a little while. That doesn't mean delivered in that number of days.

01:28:36.860 --> 01:28:41.460
And the site was so clear. It said ships in or like, like whatever, whatever the word was.

01:28:41.860 --> 01:28:47.420
Um, but people, they, they don't, they don't read and now that's customer

01:28:47.420 --> 01:28:50.420
services problem and it causes, it causes stress and frustration.

01:28:50.700 --> 01:28:57.540
And what if we just avoided all of that? You know, I don't want to out the company, but I had a, I bought a thing.

01:28:58.100 --> 01:29:05.580
I was going to say recently, it's not even recently anymore. Uh, a while ago and I was emailing them monthly asking for updates because they

01:29:05.580 --> 01:29:10.100
weren't giving me any updates and their, their website didn't say anything about

01:29:10.100 --> 01:29:15.060
delays or anything. I think it might have said, I ended up looking at the website and I couldn't

01:29:15.060 --> 01:29:18.700
find it, but I think at the time that I ordered it, it might have said that it might take a month.

01:29:19.580 --> 01:29:24.980
Uh, and we, we passed the three month point of again, they never sent any form

01:29:24.980 --> 01:29:29.820
of update. I kept reaching out to them, um, and they, they emailed back.

01:29:29.820 --> 01:29:36.580
I think it was like yesterday or something. And we're like, yeah, we're, we're, yeah, we're shipping it Monday.

01:29:36.660 --> 01:29:40.760
I'm like, cool. Thanks. It's been, it's by the time it gets here, it will have been like three and a half

01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:44.520
months through one thing that didn't warn me of that at all.

01:29:44.840 --> 01:29:51.720
It's very annoying at this point. That's, I think it's the longest I've waited for something that I've ordered

01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:57.680
that didn't have like a very specific, you know, this product is not ready yet.

01:29:57.680 --> 01:30:06.240
It will release at whatever time. Cause there are, there are definitely things that, um, I'm trying to think, um,

01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:10.480
you know, like a shirt that was made for some event.

01:30:11.360 --> 01:30:14.600
It's a Trump phone, right? Oh my goodness. No, it's not a Trump phone.

01:30:15.080 --> 01:30:19.840
Um, it's finished equipment. I just don't want to call it the brand because it's like equipment, whatever.

01:30:21.120 --> 01:30:26.040
Uh, what are we supposed to be doing right now? Oh my gosh. Was that one calm?

01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:35.160
Okay. Hit me with another Dan. Sure. Um, I am looking this year to upgrade my TV from a 77 inch OLED to something in

01:30:35.160 --> 01:30:44.600
the 98 to a hundred inch range. Currently looking at the TCL X 11L or wait for what Sony true RGB brings.

01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:47.840
Uh, we're at going away from OLED.

01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:55.160
Okay. So you're clearly a mad baller because you're upgrading a 77 inch OLED.

01:30:55.480 --> 01:30:59.600
So honestly, the biggest thing that, that's piqued my interest on that is you

01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:04.040
have the throw distance for this to make any sense. Yeah. First up, congratulations.

01:31:04.080 --> 01:31:06.880
Um, TV to you have, you have achieved.

01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:11.280
Much and, uh, and my, and hats off to you.

01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:21.600
Um, second of all, right now is kind of, we're, I hate to be that guy, right?

01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:28.640
Because I think that for, for a long time, I have beat the drum of if you wait, if

01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:32.640
you're always waiting for the next thing, then you will never just get to enjoy

01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:36.320
anything because you'll always be waiting for the one that's right around the corner.

01:31:36.320 --> 01:31:45.160
That's better, right? Um, however, the time is now May, which is exactly when the new models are starting

01:31:45.160 --> 01:31:50.120
to trickle into stores that were like first unveiled at CES this year.

01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:59.000
Um, and as we head into back to school and especially Black Friday, there will be deals.

01:32:00.040 --> 01:32:04.440
Now, as someone who's upgrading a 77 inch OLED, you sound like you might be the sort

01:32:04.440 --> 01:32:06.680
of person who doesn't care about getting a deal.

01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:13.400
If that's the case, I haven't actually tried the X 11L series yet.

01:32:14.240 --> 01:32:22.560
What I have done is I have used TCL's like last, last generation kind of similar

01:32:22.560 --> 01:32:27.560
class of TV in the form of the, that 115 inch that is still in my theater room in

01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:34.320
spite of everything else that exists. And TCL at their very high end makes a very fine TV.

01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:37.920
I haven't seen the X 11L yet. I, I'm hoping too soon.

01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:47.960
The other thing that I'll say, and this is probably going to complicate your decision more than help it, is that I have seen Sony's RGB backlit LED, um, LCDs

01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:51.680
and they are absolute fire.

01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:54.440
They are so cool.

01:32:54.920 --> 01:33:00.440
Um, it was in a pretty controlled environment and I didn't actually get a

01:33:00.440 --> 01:33:03.440
chance to look side by side with an OLED.

01:33:05.280 --> 01:33:08.920
Oh, yeah, no, I didn't get a chance to look side by side with an OLED.

01:33:09.320 --> 01:33:15.240
But if I was a betting man and I didn't have a budget, which you might not, I

01:33:15.240 --> 01:33:20.840
would say that true RGB is going to be pretty killer and take this all for what

01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:24.600
it is, right? Like Sony sponsored our trip to go check it out.

01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:32.480
So full disclosure, everything. Um, and you know, we saw it within the confines of, of their controlled environment.

01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:36.040
So take that all for what it is. Uh, but it looks really good.

01:33:36.080 --> 01:33:38.000
It looks really, really good.

01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:42.800
Okay. Moving on to some more topics.

01:33:44.320 --> 01:33:47.880
All right. Lute, do you want to pick one or two? Sure.

01:33:48.200 --> 01:33:49.840
Let's see what we got here.

01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:55.560
Oh yeah. Let's go over this charade.

01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:59.000
Um, yeah. Oh, I knew it. I knew it. I was hoping you were going to pick that.

01:33:59.040 --> 01:34:07.600
Nice. GameStop offers 56 billion in value for eBay, but struggles to explain how it'll

01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:12.080
gather up all that value on May 4th.

01:34:12.120 --> 01:34:15.880
GameStop, because they try to use the force to make this happen. I don't know, whatever.

01:34:16.240 --> 01:34:23.040
GameStop made an entirely unsolicited 56 billion dollar offer to buy eBay at $125 a

01:34:23.040 --> 01:34:27.160
share. The offer letter stipulated that the amount will be paid half in cash, half in

01:34:27.160 --> 01:34:33.400
GameStop stock, GameStop's operational slash strategic plan was that it's roughly

01:34:33.400 --> 01:34:38.200
1600 US retail stores would become eBay drop off intake fulfillment and live

01:34:38.200 --> 01:34:42.960
commerce hubs, which actually sounds kind of smart, uh, with CEO Ryan Cohen

01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:48.920
promising $2 billion a year in cost cuts, including $1.2 billion from eBay's

01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:56.200
marketing budget alone. The bid seemed weird because the market valuation of GameStop is around $11

01:34:56.200 --> 01:35:01.320
billion, while eBay is roughly worth $48 billion.

01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:09.000
Is this, is this like me, um, you know, offering to, uh, I've got my, uh, I've

01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:13.560
got my Floatplane shirt on here. Okay. Is this like me offering to buy YouTube?

01:35:14.200 --> 01:35:18.440
You know, uh, I think the scale isn't even close to me.

01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:25.560
But you get what I mean, right? I think they're a lot closer, but they're the smaller company and they're not

01:35:25.560 --> 01:35:30.280
even offering a merger of peers. They're like, we're going to acquire, what are you even talking about?

01:35:30.280 --> 01:35:34.400
Anyway, sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm floating trying to buy YouTube's toe.

01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:39.160
Um, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of funny stuff with this.

01:35:39.160 --> 01:35:42.720
I think it's literally just a stunt, but we'll, we'll, we'll get into that.

01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:47.320
Uh, about nine, why, why can't, why are you feel so compelled to spoil the punch

01:35:47.320 --> 01:35:52.240
lines for things, Luke? There's so many good reasons why, and people kind of absorb it as we go

01:35:52.240 --> 01:35:57.000
through about nine billion of the, which has me interested in if GameStop's

01:35:58.400 --> 01:36:03.760
valuation includes their cash. But anyways, about nine billion of the cash for the offer would come from

01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:08.240
GameStop's war chest with the rest being raised through a debt instrument from

01:36:08.240 --> 01:36:15.120
TD securities, uh, a subsidiary of TD bank provided a highly confident letter

01:36:16.320 --> 01:36:21.880
indicating a potential commitment to provide approximately 20 billion of the

01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:27.120
cash, um, half of the offer in debt financing.

01:36:29.280 --> 01:36:33.840
What? Okay, I'm a little bit lost here, but anyways, um, yeah, it's, it feels like Sam

01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:38.840
Altman being like, yeah, I'll buy all the RAM. It's like that level of like, I don't, I don't think they actually technically

01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:46.680
have to do it, but they've said that they probably will. Um, Cohen went on CNBC's squawk box where the hosts flagged that the value

01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:52.160
of all of GameStop's stock is just over 11 billion dollars and half of the stock,

01:36:52.440 --> 01:36:58.280
um, half of the stock, half of the acquisition offer would require about 28

01:36:58.280 --> 01:37:04.720
billion, basically there isn't enough equity or enough cash to make this make

01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:08.520
sense and half stock, half cash also doesn't really make any sense.

01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:15.240
And if we go check out, uh, GameStop stock and we look at the last five days,

01:37:15.680 --> 01:37:17.240
I mean, it even went down.

01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:22.480
So it's worth less today than it was, uh, when it's up.

01:37:22.920 --> 01:37:26.560
Yeah, it's down 4% because, because people saw this and were like yikes,

01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:36.520
uh, which is kind of funny. Um, yeah, the, the, the, the CEO apparently just kept on saying when asked,

01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:39.880
like, how does this make any sense? Like, where are you getting all that value from?

01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:44.400
He just kept saying, uh, half cash, half stock. Uh, and then saying it's on the website.

01:37:44.400 --> 01:37:47.160
Go check it out there. It gets explained on the website.

01:37:47.480 --> 01:37:50.600
Um, yeah, amazing. I missed this part.

01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:53.680
He eventually told the host, I don't understand your question.

01:37:54.040 --> 01:37:57.320
It's like, dude. Okay.

01:37:57.320 --> 01:38:03.400
Sorry, carry on. He was framing the, I don't understand your question as if there was enough

01:38:03.400 --> 01:38:10.280
stock and cash available. Therefore the question didn't make any sense, but clearly there isn't.

01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:17.360
Um, fantastic. Yeah. Morgan Stanley analysts then piled on with a research note calling GameStop and

01:38:17.360 --> 01:38:21.880
eBay fundamentally different businesses with no real overlap and noted that if the

01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:26.200
deal somehow closed, it would be the largest leveraged buyout in history.

01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:30.400
Then on May six, Cohen created a new eBay. This is my favorite part.

01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:35.320
He created a Cohen, the CEO of GameStop, created a new eBay account under the

01:38:35.320 --> 01:38:41.560
username Ryan, 50, 50, you know, 50 cash, 50 stock, um, presumably a knot.

01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:45.040
Oh, yep, there it is. Presumably a nod to the half cash, half stock split.

01:38:45.200 --> 01:38:49.520
And they started listing personal items in his words to help fund the eBay

01:38:49.520 --> 01:38:55.360
acquisition, uh, including, if I remember correctly, some socks and, and, and other

01:38:55.400 --> 01:39:04.320
things, um, Frank said, said, said, Sifaldi, Sifaldi, I don't know, um, of the

01:39:04.320 --> 01:39:08.160
video game history foundation, then flagged on blue sky, that several of

01:39:08.160 --> 01:39:13.440
Cohen's listings appeared to come from the game and former vault, which

01:39:13.440 --> 01:39:18.120
housed decades of rare gaming mech memorabilia that GameStop kept after

01:39:18.120 --> 01:39:21.480
shutting the game and former magazine down. Okay. Thanks.

01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:25.960
Uh, then late that same night, eBay suspended Cohen's account, citing

01:39:25.960 --> 01:39:31.280
concerns that his activity, um, was, was putting the eBay community at risk.

01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:34.840
As far as my understanding goes, they have reinstated his account.

01:39:34.960 --> 01:39:40.200
I don't think that's in here. Um, analysts have pointed out that the whole thing likely comes down to Ryan

01:39:40.200 --> 01:39:44.920
Cohen, trying to trigger a performance gate in his compensation package, which

01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:49.760
would unlock 35 billion in potential stock options.

01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:54.000
If he increases the company's market value to a hundred billion dollars and

01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:57.120
achieves 10 billion in cumulative EBITDA.

01:39:59.960 --> 01:40:06.440
You know, what's funny is that is so much better analysis, I guess, of what

01:40:06.440 --> 01:40:10.520
he's doing. See, I thought this was as simple as GameStop hasn't been in the

01:40:10.520 --> 01:40:18.920
headlines enough lately. I need GameStop in the headlines so that people like pump it as a meme stock again.

01:40:19.200 --> 01:40:24.560
I like, I was thinking like 3D chess. That's like, that's like 4D chess.

01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:28.520
So I don't need to reach a revenue target.

01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:36.760
I just go out and I borrow enough money to buy a company that already has

01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:40.320
that much revenue. It's brilliant.

01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:46.560
I don't think if anything leaking that like that was the goal might have

01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:50.480
been part of the 3D chess, because I don't think this was ever going to happen.

01:40:51.280 --> 01:40:57.600
Well, no, it was, it was never going to happen. But like, maybe he's, I mean, we have no idea how much ketamine the

01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:04.400
average CEO is on, right? So like, maybe in his mind, this is serious.

01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:11.400
You should just call, you should cold call Terry and ask him.

01:41:13.680 --> 01:41:18.120
Oh, hey Linus, you need a plug or what? We're concerned that you're not taking enough ketamine.

01:41:18.960 --> 01:41:24.760
All right, I'll ask him. We're looking at, we're looking at LMG's trajectory and we're thinking

01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:29.160
you might need to take more ketamine. I forgot where I worked and that he would actually do that.

01:41:30.440 --> 01:41:33.040
Oh, I knew he was going to do it. What have I done?

01:41:34.840 --> 01:41:40.280
Hey, you're live on the WAN Show. Hold on, I'm just trying to figure out where the speaker hole on my phone is here.

01:41:40.480 --> 01:41:43.440
Can you guys hear him okay? Yes. Yeah, he's coming through.

01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:54.160
Okay, you guys got him. So we're just having a conversation right now about sort of like CEOs and

01:41:54.160 --> 01:42:00.960
their typical ketamine consumption. And we were just wondering like, how much ketamine do you consume?

01:42:02.360 --> 01:42:06.920
I've had no ketamine so far. I have asked doctors for ketamine and they said no.

01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:11.240
Really? Did they explain why they said no?

01:42:11.240 --> 01:42:16.120
I mean, if this is getting too personal, then feel free to, to, to nope out.

01:42:16.120 --> 01:42:21.560
But like I, I... Tony, is this for recreational use or is there a medical condition?

01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:25.520
I'm like recreational and then that's when they handle it. Okay, all right, understood.

01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:30.240
That's actually really, oh, you know what? Chad's got a question for you.

01:42:31.080 --> 01:42:35.840
Denricks asks, did you tell them that you've been diagnosed with CEO?

01:42:37.400 --> 01:42:40.000
Oh, no, I haven't. Is that a real condition?

01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:47.280
Well, that's what we think because, because of how, how, how people, our CEOs and

01:42:47.320 --> 01:42:50.960
are being treated with ketamine, we assume that that was a causation

01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:53.080
relationship rather than just a correlation.

01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:57.840
Can I ask questions as well? Yeah, absolutely.

01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:05.040
Absolutely. This is an open, this is a safe space. Oh, when I, when I'm at work, does it seem like I'm under the influence?

01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:12.440
Thank you, everyone. Taryn Tong, CEO of Linus Media Group.

01:43:12.440 --> 01:43:14.760
Bye, Taryn. I'll see you next week.

01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:19.720
Wow, what a great, what a great conversation. That was tremendous.

01:43:20.480 --> 01:43:24.320
Should we go ahead and maybe do whatever it is that Dan wants us to do?

01:43:25.320 --> 01:43:26.960
Dan is currently flagging two more.

01:43:28.400 --> 01:43:32.400
Dan is currently flagging two more topics. Yeah, let's, let's do some more topics.

01:43:32.400 --> 01:43:35.040
We can do this other weird one. That's good news, right?

01:43:35.400 --> 01:43:39.440
Toyota built a $10 billion private utopia tech city.

01:43:39.800 --> 01:43:44.160
Last week, ours, Technica, got an inside tour of Toyota's Woven City,

01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:48.480
the $10 billion private city of the future. Sounds very Disney.

01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:52.960
The company has been in Japan, has built in Japan.

01:43:52.960 --> 01:43:59.560
Yeah, there we go. That makes a lot more sense. And the picture they painted was a mix, was mixed at best.

01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:05.440
Toyota chairman Akio Toyota first announced Woven City at CES 2020 as part

01:44:05.440 --> 01:44:08.920
of a pivot from car maker to mobility company.

01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:14.040
And the first 100 residents handpicked alpha testers that Toyota calls

01:44:14.040 --> 01:44:16.600
weavers moved in six months ago.

01:44:17.480 --> 01:44:22.720
Despite the city branding, only about 10% of the planned 175 acre site is

01:44:22.720 --> 01:44:25.560
actually built so far, although these things take time.

01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:32.520
Residents act as alpha and beta testers for a rotating slate of Toyota tech.

01:44:32.920 --> 01:44:37.040
Interesting. Toyota's stated rationale for the heavy surveillance is.

01:44:37.200 --> 01:44:39.720
Yeah, this is where things get a little dystopian.

01:44:40.760 --> 01:44:47.680
With the Woven City CTO telling ours that on board car sensors can't

01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:50.880
reliably spot a kid darting out from behind a truck.

01:44:51.240 --> 01:44:56.640
So street level cameras everywhere is part of how Toyota plans to hit

01:44:56.640 --> 01:44:58.200
its zero accident school.

01:44:59.800 --> 01:45:04.600
In practice, the camera density is striking with ours counting eight

01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:09.680
at a single intersection and a half dozen, even in small coffee shops,

01:45:09.880 --> 01:45:13.880
all feeding into Toyota's AI vision engine, which can track people

01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:21.560
across cameras based on their clothing. Toyota built a consent system called data fabric that lets residents

01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:25.840
opt in or out per service and 98% of weavers.

01:45:27.680 --> 01:45:31.280
I'm paraphrasing because they were handpicked, have agreed to

01:45:31.280 --> 01:45:34.320
camera equipped robots in their apartments.

01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:38.920
I guess we all have robot vacuums, not all of us, but a lot of people do.

01:45:39.240 --> 01:45:45.320
Mine's been broken for a year, but it is what it is. The company's longer term plan is to refine the AI vision engine

01:45:45.320 --> 01:45:49.440
inside Woven City and then sell it to actual municipalities.

01:45:51.120 --> 01:45:56.080
Toyota also confirmed that Chairman Accio Toyota has been uploaded

01:45:57.040 --> 01:46:05.960
to the city's cloud as Accio Toyota AI, a chatbot trained on a decade

01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:08.440
of his speeches and writings. Really.

01:46:11.400 --> 01:46:16.520
Wow. I think this has got to be peak.

01:46:19.080 --> 01:46:23.440
We have no idea what to spend our copious amounts of money on.

01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:28.600
Wow. So let's do this.

01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:35.040
And this is coming from someone who just attended an event that was held

01:46:35.480 --> 01:46:44.920
in an abandoned power plant because a billionaire saw that it was

01:46:44.920 --> 01:46:51.120
like kind of an eyesore for his neighbors and decided to buy it to turn it into a park.

01:46:54.720 --> 01:46:57.760
Wow. Very nice. Yeah.

01:46:58.360 --> 01:47:01.360
This is like, this is actually peak.

01:47:02.320 --> 01:47:05.120
My stake is too juicy.

01:47:05.640 --> 01:47:08.400
My family is too perfect.

01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:13.440
My money bushels are overflowing.

01:47:13.680 --> 01:47:22.360
I simply have no idea what to do with it. This is like, you know, the fact that it might be a lot of what was the Disney thing?

01:47:22.360 --> 01:47:25.520
What was the Disney thing? The like Disney city thing.

01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:35.840
The town of tomorrow or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This feels like, like modern that Epcot, that's the one.

01:47:38.480 --> 01:47:41.360
Yeah. Did Epcot have like insane surveillance?

01:47:42.240 --> 01:47:46.600
I don't know if I don't know if our corporate overlords had imagined that yet.

01:47:46.720 --> 01:47:49.760
Is this to me feels like I know what you're saying.

01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:53.120
We don't know what to spend our money on. I don't think that's true at all, to be honest.

01:47:53.120 --> 01:47:56.840
I don't get that read from this in the slightest. Really? No, not even a little bit.

01:47:56.840 --> 01:48:03.880
I get flock from this. I get Toyota attempting to make technology to sell the governments, which

01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:06.840
is literally what they're saying. They're planning on selling this to municipalities.

01:48:07.480 --> 01:48:14.480
They want to be flock. They want to have AI enabled cameras all over the place, tracking everyone,

01:48:14.480 --> 01:48:18.360
measuring everything and then selling it to governments and probably also

01:48:18.400 --> 01:48:24.080
companies for advertisement and everything else. I this, yeah, I don't get the same read as you on this.

01:48:24.720 --> 01:48:31.040
So, so basically it sounds like we're, neither of us is what they're saying it's

01:48:31.040 --> 01:48:34.600
for. They're saying it's for, you know, connected cities for like, you know,

01:48:34.600 --> 01:48:37.160
reducing. No, they're saying it's like for what I said.

01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:42.840
No, I mean, they didn't say anything about crime. They said, you know, like car accidents, basically.

01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:44.800
But they said they're going to sell it to municipalities.

01:48:46.080 --> 01:48:54.680
No, no, I, no, I got that part. But like flock is, is, is, is for surveillance and, and like, uh,

01:48:54.680 --> 01:48:57.760
suspect tracking and whatnot. Yeah, but if you sell it to municipalities, what are you going to say they're useful?

01:48:57.760 --> 01:49:01.360
No, no, I know, I know. But the part is that I said they didn't say that though they did.

01:49:01.360 --> 01:49:08.840
So they haven't said the quiet part out loud. What they're saying is we're a mobility company and this is about mobility and

01:49:08.840 --> 01:49:15.080
making it like so that every car, it has a brain on board it that is being fed

01:49:15.080 --> 01:49:19.960
data from these AI enabled cameras so that it would never like accidentally

01:49:19.960 --> 01:49:24.120
hit a kid who's like darting out from between two cars or, you know, chasing a ball or whatever.

01:49:24.920 --> 01:49:31.120
Um, so your theory then is that whether Toyota intends it or not, this will

01:49:31.120 --> 01:49:36.520
be, this will be sold as a, as a, as just a mass surveillance tool.

01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:40.200
Yeah. I mean, cause it, the whole car's angle doesn't make sense when there's

01:49:40.200 --> 01:49:51.080
cameras inside of coffee shops and inside of your home. So I read the ours article and, um, they go into a little bit more depth about

01:49:51.280 --> 01:49:57.400
how, you know, Toyota's culture and Japanese culture and, and like privacy

01:49:57.400 --> 01:50:02.080
are sort of really central to this and what their plan is for anonymizing things.

01:50:02.080 --> 01:50:06.200
Like that's, that's part of why the individual tracking is based on the

01:50:06.200 --> 01:50:11.800
clothing that you're wearing. It does not use facial identification, for instance.

01:50:12.240 --> 01:50:19.120
However, I think that anyone as technical as anybody at Toyota working on

01:50:19.120 --> 01:50:22.920
this project or anyone from ours, technical or anyone in our audience is

01:50:22.920 --> 01:50:26.520
going to know that there's, it's like, just because you're not using facial

01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:30.480
tracking doesn't mean that you can't pin this down to an individual, especially

01:50:30.480 --> 01:50:35.400
if you've got a large enough set of data monitoring, like a fixed number of

01:50:35.400 --> 01:50:40.520
local residents, right? Like whether we're talking about the outfits that they normally wear or

01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:44.360
whether we're talking about gate analysis, looking at how they walk, right?

01:50:44.360 --> 01:50:48.680
Like it's, um, there's a lot of ways, like an actually pretty wild amount of ways to

01:50:48.680 --> 01:50:50.840
identify people. Tell me this.

01:50:52.240 --> 01:50:55.200
Okay. This is a hypothetical to be very, very clear.

01:50:55.720 --> 01:51:04.880
Tell me this. If Toyota could solve privacy for this, if their pitch that this is a

01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:10.200
mobility solution that does not store in any accessible way.

01:51:10.200 --> 01:51:15.840
This is a huge if I know, does not store in any accessible way, personally

01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:21.080
identifiable information, and it is purely a machine vision system that

01:51:21.080 --> 01:51:27.880
sends feedback to, to cars and bikes and, and these like smart equipped vehicles

01:51:27.880 --> 01:51:33.200
to prevent accidents. Is this something that you could see having any kind of future?

01:51:33.760 --> 01:51:39.200
I'm going to be, I need you to understand that. I know I'm going to be super annoying for a second.

01:51:40.760 --> 01:51:44.920
One thing is, you said they, if, even if they don't store the data and stuff,

01:51:45.240 --> 01:51:52.920
the problem is there's other types of attacks. So like it will be a privacy nightmare because everything could solve it.

01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:58.480
If, if, I know this is an if, but the problem is, is that if is impossible?

01:51:59.080 --> 01:52:03.680
I know, but try to try to try to try to play along with it is the world's

01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:09.840
perfect, uh, given by some deity, not of the earth.

01:52:10.840 --> 01:52:15.880
Data system that is completely unhackable, that is completely literally

01:52:16.640 --> 01:52:20.160
impossible. Then I, yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know if I really care.

01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:25.960
For me, if it can never be, if it is completely uncorruptible and is only

01:52:25.960 --> 01:52:32.000
ever used for good and is completely unhackable, then it's like, okay.

01:52:32.480 --> 01:52:34.960
So I'm actually going to argue against my point now.

01:52:35.800 --> 01:52:39.320
And I'm going to say it has no future because then nobody would want it.

01:52:40.240 --> 01:52:45.000
It would be too expensive to implement purely to save a handful of lives.

01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:48.240
I mean, think about how many intersections you drive through in a typical city

01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:52.200
that obviously need better signage, but because that would cost a few hundred

01:52:52.200 --> 01:53:00.600
dollars, it's not going to get implemented. So this as like Toyota imagining this mobility future where everything,

01:53:00.600 --> 01:53:05.480
every object in a city is tracked, I think even if they could solve it.

01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:12.400
But this is why I wanted to have the conversation, right? Because, you know, it has to kind of boil down to like, is their

01:53:12.400 --> 01:53:15.880
pitch is right, is there a future? And I still think the answer is no.

01:53:16.360 --> 01:53:23.400
Yeah, yeah, because I'd love to be wrong. And, you know, people, people can say what they want, but ultimately

01:53:23.400 --> 01:53:29.640
when it comes down to municipal budgets, what are people going to vote for?

01:53:29.640 --> 01:53:36.200
I mean, looking at like Langley right now, for example, we're, we're, we're

01:53:36.200 --> 01:53:40.160
doing some weird stuff. Hey, Luke, OK, hold on a second, though.

01:53:40.160 --> 01:53:44.680
Hold on. Yeah, hold on. Yeah, let's, let's back up a little bit here, because I actually

01:53:44.680 --> 01:53:49.560
might be about to argue against myself again. That's fun. What if we, what if we didn't do this with cameras?

01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:54.200
Like, what if we could do this with a point cloud device? Like, what if we could do this with LiDAR?

01:53:54.800 --> 01:53:59.960
You'd still be able to, oh man, no, because you'd still be able to see a

01:53:59.960 --> 01:54:06.000
blob coming out of this square blob at this time every day and going

01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:13.800
to the other square blob at that time every day. Yeah, I never mind. I talk myself out of it again, because like to me, like the, you know,

01:54:13.800 --> 01:54:17.560
the cameras and the data analysis, no matter how much compute and no

01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:21.920
matter how cheap cameras are going to get, they're always good. They're always going to have some cost. You also just can't get around it.

01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:30.560
Like if, if surveillance is being done, it, it can be hacked and it, you know,

01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:34.640
on a technical level, it can be hacked on a social level.

01:54:34.640 --> 01:54:40.320
It will almost certainly be corrupted. There's like, there's every example of, you know, police officers using

01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:44.240
tracking equipment to track their girlfriends to see if they're cheating or,

01:54:44.240 --> 01:54:47.400
or, or, or yeah, following ex-girlfriends and ex-wives and whatnot.

01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:50.640
There's, there's every example of all these different things where if it,

01:54:50.640 --> 01:54:53.760
if it's a social system, it can and almost certainly will be corrupted.

01:54:53.920 --> 01:54:59.840
And if it's a technical system, it can be hacked. And those things just like seem to effectively be laws of the universe.

01:54:59.840 --> 01:55:03.680
So it's tough when you have a system like this, because you just know both of those things are true.

01:55:04.240 --> 01:55:09.080
I'm going to throw another wrench into the gears, yet another wrench.

01:55:09.080 --> 01:55:12.880
Cause I just, I think this is just a really interesting conversation.

01:55:13.400 --> 01:55:17.920
It's not interesting enough for me to have spent my $10 billion to, you know,

01:55:18.440 --> 01:55:24.920
prove that it's not going to work or whatever. I'm so, but I'm glad Toyota did it because I'm interested to talk about it.

01:55:25.960 --> 01:55:33.000
Yeah. Yeah, sure. I, I, I have a 10 billion offer, 10 billion dollar offer in to buy

01:55:33.040 --> 01:55:35.760
the city, a 10 billion dollar loan.

01:55:36.080 --> 01:55:39.360
But, but TD, TD seems like their game for this sort of thing.

01:55:39.360 --> 01:55:47.280
So they totally told me they do it. So yeah, let me, let me throw this out and go, okay, but hear me out.

01:55:47.960 --> 01:55:54.320
As our methods for tracking these things get more and more ubiquitous

01:55:54.320 --> 01:55:58.480
and more and more precise and more and more, absolutely.

01:55:58.560 --> 01:56:03.200
Everybody has them on their person at any given moment.

01:56:05.520 --> 01:56:10.720
How different would the point cloud system be?

01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:13.840
I mean, you can make a strong, you can make a strong argument that the

01:56:13.840 --> 01:56:20.040
camera system is, is different, but like it, how different would it be?

01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:28.120
Hit me up. I mean, that's already a problem, right? I think we talked on a fairly recent WAN Show about a crime scene where

01:56:28.120 --> 01:56:32.520
Google got, was the right term for it, subpoenaed or something for

01:56:32.520 --> 01:56:37.000
information on what devices were in the area at the time in this like big window.

01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:42.040
So they were poking around in the phones of people and we know from,

01:56:42.040 --> 01:56:45.080
there was no reason to suspect them. We know from the Snowden era.

01:56:45.080 --> 01:56:48.440
I don't know if he's still doing public stuff, but we know from when he was

01:56:48.440 --> 01:56:52.840
like a big deal in the news that when, when he was roaming around, you know,

01:56:52.840 --> 01:56:58.600
he's throwing phones in, in, uh, freezers and stuff like that to try to

01:56:58.600 --> 01:57:01.800
fair day cage them, um, because they were already a problem.

01:57:02.040 --> 01:57:08.200
So it's like, it's, yeah, I mean, that's definitely part of it, but it's, I don't

01:57:08.200 --> 01:57:12.680
know, adding more fuel to the fire because the phones aren't perfect. You could decide to leave it at home.

01:57:13.080 --> 01:57:16.120
Um, I remember when we talked about that story of the, yeah, someone said

01:57:16.120 --> 01:57:19.640
geofencing warrant, when we talked about the story of the geofencing warrant, it

01:57:19.640 --> 01:57:26.360
was kind of like astonishing to me that you would bring your cell phone to a crime scene because it's like, yeah, I mean, you can obviously be trapped.

01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:31.320
What are you doing? Um, well, that's the thing with criminals, Luke.

01:57:33.560 --> 01:57:37.360
Yeah. Um, so yeah, it's tough.

01:57:37.680 --> 01:57:43.960
It's tough. It's also ultimately our opinion on it isn't really going to matter.

01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:49.760
I think, uh, like every single person I've ever heard of who has talked about

01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:53.800
Flock in any way has been like, wow, this is obviously bad and evil and a

01:57:53.800 --> 01:57:57.520
terrible system. Um, yeah, and they're all over the place.

01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:00.680
So I don't know.

01:58:02.160 --> 01:58:06.600
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02:00:29.400 --> 02:00:33.440
Uh, we probably do. I assume we do. All right. We've got some Floatplane announcements.

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We received an anonymous report that one of the two, why is when late

02:00:38.400 --> 02:00:42.560
competitors thinks that the other is not trying so hard?

02:00:43.040 --> 02:00:46.720
I wonder who it could be. I try, I try hard.

02:00:46.720 --> 02:00:49.360
What do you mean? What do you mean you don't think I'm trying hard? Nope.

02:00:50.440 --> 02:00:54.280
So I think you try hard to cheat. I think you try hard to push Sammy to cheat for you.

02:00:55.000 --> 02:01:01.800
No, I actually, I actually don't. Um, so to spice it up, Luke promised that if this week's why is when late

02:01:01.800 --> 02:01:08.000
video got 2000 likes, he will ride a unicycle to when to answer the

02:01:08.000 --> 02:01:13.040
question once and for all, what is easier Linus getting to set on time?

02:01:13.400 --> 02:01:18.400
Or Luke learning to ride a unicycle, unicycle, unicycle to get to the

02:01:18.400 --> 02:01:20.840
WAN Show, which I cannot do.

02:01:22.040 --> 02:01:26.520
Yeah, I was going to say that I don't know if you will ever be able to do that.

02:01:26.520 --> 02:01:35.600
No, probably not with that mindset. You're not like, I don't think I have the agile and you're very top heavy.

02:01:35.880 --> 02:01:41.200
Yeah. I, and I don't mean this in like, I don't mean this in like an offensive way.

02:01:41.200 --> 02:01:45.520
I just mean it in like, I just mean it in like an objective observation

02:01:45.520 --> 02:01:48.640
way that I don't, you didn't put that.

02:01:48.640 --> 02:01:52.080
You put a lot of points in strength and not that many in dexterity.

02:01:52.080 --> 02:01:55.960
Like you got some in there, but like unicycle dexterity.

02:01:55.960 --> 02:01:59.520
Ford Explorer of the person. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

02:02:00.440 --> 02:02:03.640
Uh, Explorer, please. Excursion is more like it.

02:02:04.640 --> 02:02:09.800
Uh, okay. In other news, I don't think that's quite accurate to be completely honest.

02:02:10.080 --> 02:02:13.920
No, an excursion is not it. That's not it. That's a powerful vehicle, sir.

02:02:13.960 --> 02:02:16.400
No, I just tip over when you turn around a corner.

02:02:18.080 --> 02:02:21.240
Uh, hmm. Okay. You know what?

02:02:21.360 --> 02:02:27.240
That's fair. Uh, map and Floatplane chat says unicycle, not that hard to learn.

02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:31.680
And charcoal says he has to ride a unicycle, not ride it well.

02:02:32.680 --> 02:02:37.360
I haven't even been on a bike in ever many years.

02:02:37.520 --> 02:02:41.000
Apparently I read this online. So take it with a grain of salt.

02:02:41.280 --> 02:02:47.240
You don't forget. Well, like a unicycle, but he never learned a unicycle.

02:02:47.240 --> 02:02:52.120
No, he said he hasn't ridden a bicycle in a long time. Oh, but yeah, thank you, Dan.

02:02:52.120 --> 02:02:55.600
That's very helpful. You're welcome. I appreciate your compliment.

02:02:56.760 --> 02:02:59.040
Uh, yeah. Okay.

02:03:00.040 --> 02:03:04.240
So this will be interesting. We also have, wait, how many likes is the video at now?

02:03:06.120 --> 02:03:10.960
Oh my goodness. It's at 1400 likes with zero dislikes.

02:03:11.320 --> 02:03:16.240
Yeah. For it's, it got, it, it got like 16 likes in the time it took me to

02:03:16.240 --> 02:03:19.200
refresh this page. Yeah, you can be the first one to dislike it.

02:03:20.160 --> 02:03:23.880
No, I'm going to like it right now. Okay. Now it has 1461.

02:03:24.000 --> 02:03:27.960
Hold on. I'm going to refresh it again. I don't like it, I don't like your account because it's the same account.

02:03:28.960 --> 02:03:33.640
You didn't. No, I didn't. How dare you? I downvoted it. How dare you, Mr. Besser?

02:03:33.640 --> 02:03:36.640
I was the first person to downvote it. Let's go. I would, I would have to do something.

02:03:36.640 --> 02:03:41.520
Unbelievable. Let's go. All right, Luca, you'll have to do screencap for this.

02:03:41.880 --> 02:03:46.400
In other news, we also have badges now designed by the one and only Ashley

02:03:46.400 --> 02:03:53.040
from the Creator Warehouse team. Floatplane now supports badges so you can flex your vanity cosmetics.

02:03:53.400 --> 02:03:57.400
Right now, we only have a length of active subscription, but we're looking to

02:03:57.480 --> 02:04:01.360
add more cool things like if you were subscribed during big events like

02:04:01.360 --> 02:04:05.640
Scrapyard Wars or what tier of sub-uron and even badges to

02:04:05.640 --> 02:04:09.960
recommend to recognize super active members of the community.

02:04:10.200 --> 02:04:12.960
We should make it a crystal.

02:04:13.440 --> 02:04:16.880
It should just be Dan. Can you send that over to Ashley?

02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:22.320
It should just be like a gem because I don't, I can't think of a more ludicrously.

02:04:22.520 --> 02:04:26.880
Oh my God, get a life active member of our community than Crystal Fierre 88.

02:04:27.360 --> 02:04:31.960
Don't take this the wrong way, Crystal. Just wow.

02:04:34.160 --> 02:04:37.920
Anywho, anywho, some badges can be added retroactively.

02:04:37.920 --> 02:04:42.480
So be sure to join. If you have some suggestions, you can go ahead and leave them in the comments.

02:04:43.440 --> 02:04:46.560
Someone said Langley house cats and the vessel logo for OG.

02:04:46.560 --> 02:04:48.360
So yeah, we're definitely working on some stuff.

02:04:54.080 --> 02:04:59.720
Crystal, I don't, I don't, I don't mean this. I don't, I don't mean this in, in any way other than you spend a lot of your

02:04:59.720 --> 02:05:03.000
life on LMG. It's great.

02:05:03.000 --> 02:05:04.840
I'll see you at the next, I'll see you at the next whale.

02:05:10.200 --> 02:05:14.960
We also have a video of the damage that Sammy did to that monitor that he

02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:20.280
brought on to WAN Show last week. I don't know if Luke is launching that or if it's already launched and we

02:05:20.280 --> 02:05:25.240
promised to improve Floatplane and we're looking to provide more benefits for subscribers at LMG.GG slash Floatplane.

02:05:25.400 --> 02:05:28.440
So now's a great time to join. Can't wait to see you there.

02:05:29.000 --> 02:05:35.840
All right. PK seven says get a life respectfully, but we do enjoy having you here for real.

02:05:36.000 --> 02:05:39.960
Yeah. Yeah, dude, it's great. It's great. No, I mean, we do, we do.

02:05:39.960 --> 02:05:42.600
We, we enjoy Crystal's company. We legitimately do.

02:05:45.720 --> 02:05:48.480
Oh my goodness. Okay.

02:05:48.800 --> 02:05:53.880
Well, no, no, no, no, I found, I, I'm ignoring you entirely. I found the part of the video where the monitor gets impaled.

02:05:55.240 --> 02:05:59.120
Oh, Ashley is very confused.

02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:07.880
What, what exactly am I messaging? It just, just the, the one for, for engagement, for like hyper engagement.

02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:11.000
It should be like a gem. It should be, it should be a Crystal.

02:06:13.480 --> 02:06:17.040
Do we have more than one, Ashley? Uh, yeah.

02:06:17.040 --> 02:06:20.760
Ashley W. We, we actually have, yeah, we definitely, Ashley.

02:06:21.560 --> 02:06:29.040
Way to go. Way to go, Dan. That moment when you really do need a company directory because it has gotten

02:06:29.040 --> 02:06:33.600
to the point where you can't know everybody. We do have one, we didn't check. Yeah. Don't you actually, didn't you like work on it?

02:06:34.200 --> 02:06:37.360
Yeah, sort of. Dan, what the heck?

02:06:37.360 --> 02:06:40.280
I don't update it. That's, that's HR. Doesn't maintain it.

02:06:41.400 --> 02:06:44.120
Okay. All right. That's good. Love it.

02:06:44.680 --> 02:06:51.360
Um, oh, hey, uh, Polaris asks, are you guys participating in the Blink pentathlon?

02:06:51.360 --> 02:06:54.480
I haven't put anything into it yet. Other than some pricing.

02:06:54.800 --> 02:06:59.040
So Chui messaged me earlier this week and he was all like, Hey, you mentioned on

02:06:59.040 --> 02:07:02.720
Wanshow that you like want to do pricing for Blink pentathlon.

02:07:03.080 --> 02:07:10.480
And I was like, yeah, sure. Can we do that? And he was like, okay, are you good with $1,000 worth of LTD store gift cards?

02:07:10.480 --> 02:07:16.800
And I was like, sure. So we're doing 10 $100 LTD store gift cards as part of the pricing for the

02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:19.760
Blink pentathlon over on the line is tech tips.com forum.

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If you don't, if you're not familiar with it, Boink is a distributed computing

02:07:23.960 --> 02:07:30.640
project that helps contribute to science. So you can use idle cycles from your computer to help make the world a better

02:07:30.640 --> 02:07:33.960
place. It's pretty cool. And you should go check it out.

02:07:33.960 --> 02:07:37.440
Maybe Dan could throw a link in the, uh, in the video description.

02:07:39.120 --> 02:07:43.760
Uh, yes. Sorry, I was just sending a group message to all the Ashley's that I work with.

02:07:43.800 --> 02:07:49.440
All right, cool. Nice. Uh, by the way, D brand sent out a thing during the show.

02:07:49.440 --> 02:07:52.920
I think probably when we announced it, I don't know if they were watching or

02:07:52.920 --> 02:07:55.880
not, but I just noticed this in my email.

02:07:56.160 --> 02:08:01.440
Uh, the subject is now available on a worse website.

02:08:01.440 --> 02:08:03.920
And then they have like a stock going down emoji.

02:08:05.480 --> 02:08:08.880
If you open it, it says now available on LTD store.com.

02:08:10.440 --> 02:08:18.760
You know, without spoiling anything, I may get my opportunity to, to, to, to, to fire

02:08:18.760 --> 02:08:23.080
back, um, but I'm not going to spoil anything.

02:08:24.360 --> 02:08:31.560
These guys, I love D brand. Okay. Um, control completely out of control.

02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:36.680
Yeah. What's next? All right. Let's, uh, let's have a look here.

02:08:36.680 --> 02:08:42.760
Let's have a look here. Oh, we got kind of already talked about the steam controller being, uh, sold out

02:08:42.760 --> 02:08:47.720
after 30 minutes, you can join a queuing system to make sure, oh, to make sure that

02:08:47.720 --> 02:08:51.400
you get one from them at, at MSRP rather than at scalper prices.

02:08:51.400 --> 02:08:57.720
Scalpers are laying go buy it from scalpers. The last bit is valve release the CAD files for the external shell of the

02:08:57.720 --> 02:09:01.120
steam controller and the steam controller puck under a creative commons license,

02:09:01.120 --> 02:09:05.960
which is super cool. If you, for whatever reason, wanted to like make accessories that it, you know,

02:09:06.040 --> 02:09:09.680
like a little cradle for it to sit in or anything cool like that. And you always love to see it.

02:09:10.080 --> 02:09:23.520
Okay. This is cool. TCL, um, unveiled a 0.01 Hertz laptop display earlier this week.

02:09:23.600 --> 02:09:30.280
This is so cool. It's designed to extend battery life by drastically reducing how often the

02:09:30.280 --> 02:09:39.320
screen redraws static content. It was showcased at SID display week in Los Angeles in a 14 inch 1920 by 1200 laptop.

02:09:39.880 --> 02:09:48.600
So this panel can refresh as slowly as one frame every 100 seconds far below the

02:09:48.600 --> 02:09:51.800
one Hertz screens that have previously been developed by companies like Intel

02:09:51.800 --> 02:09:57.880
and LG. The coolest part though, and this is where it gets real is that the display is

02:09:57.880 --> 02:10:05.400
divided into 12 zones that can independently shift between 120 Hertz and

02:10:05.400 --> 02:10:12.840
0.01 Hertz, allowing you to have higher refresh rate in areas like an active

02:10:12.840 --> 02:10:19.000
video window while the rest of the screen remains nearly static, not being updated.

02:10:19.960 --> 02:10:24.960
TCL estimates that the technology or TCL seesaw specifically estimates that the

02:10:24.960 --> 02:10:28.560
technology can add over an hour of video playback time.

02:10:28.960 --> 02:10:33.640
And the LCD panel uses the company's proprietary oxide TFT backplane.

02:10:34.200 --> 02:10:40.360
Um, our discussion question is, is 12 zone refresh switching switching enough for a

02:10:40.360 --> 02:10:43.560
seamless UI or will the lack of granularity cause noticeable artifacts?

02:10:43.560 --> 02:10:47.800
I mean, I think the answer to that is probably just going to come down to

02:10:47.800 --> 02:10:53.800
driver and operating system management so that you just, if you have a window,

02:10:53.880 --> 02:10:58.680
like an active video window or something like that, that slightly overlaps one of

02:10:58.680 --> 02:11:01.960
the control zones, it'll just activate everything that's around it.

02:11:02.520 --> 02:11:07.640
So just, yeah, as long as you're not using the entire screen, there'll be some savings

02:11:07.640 --> 02:11:11.000
and I'm here for it. More battery life in devices is like

02:11:13.800 --> 02:11:17.720
honestly been like kind of life changing over the last couple of generations of laptops

02:11:17.720 --> 02:11:21.720
for me, whether I've been using a MacBook Neo or whether I've been using, uh,

02:11:21.720 --> 02:11:27.000
like a Strix Halo or, uh, man, like Panther Lake is freaking incredible for battery life.

02:11:27.560 --> 02:11:34.280
I just, now that I dock at work, I just, not that kind, never think about the battery life

02:11:34.280 --> 02:11:37.480
of my laptop pretty much cause it'll work for like an entire weekend without me having anything

02:11:37.480 --> 02:11:42.680
to do with it. Is this just so distracted docking? Yeah, buddy. You don't need your laptop battery life anymore?

02:11:42.680 --> 02:11:46.360
That's right. You've moved on to bigger and better things?

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Especially better. Better is key.

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Safe for even. Safe harbor.

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Um, I felt wrong. It's sticky.

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Jebus.

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Uh, hey, why don't we talk about, why don't we talk about something that I actually missed

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last week? This was announced last week, I believe, but on May 1st, Ask.com was officially

02:12:14.040 --> 02:12:20.120
shut down. I know, I know this is supposed to be good news when, and this is truly tragic,

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but formerly Ask.Jeeves, the butler, is no more. And, uh, I don't know. I don't know. This actually,

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this actually kind of, kind of hit me in a, uh, more than I expected it to. Like, I don't know,

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Luke. Do you remember the early days of using search engines? Like back when Altavista was king

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and also Ask.Jeeves and Dogpile. I always really liked Ask.Jeeves, actually. So Ask.Jeeves claimed

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to fame was that it was, I believe, the first natural language search engine because you know how

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you can kind of switch, you can put on your like, I am an advanced search wizard hat and you can use

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like Boolean operators and you can, um, uh, and you can sort of go into like power user mode using

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a search engine, uh, rather than just asking it a natural language question. That was like how they

02:13:16.600 --> 02:13:24.360
all just worked back in the day, except for Ask.Jeeves. They had this, this cute butler mascot and

02:13:24.360 --> 02:13:30.040
you would just type in a natural language question and it was like actually pretty good. Um, a little

02:13:30.040 --> 02:13:35.880
bit of history in our notes here. It launched in 1996 out of Berkeley with a now familiar pitch.

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Type a full question in plain English and get an answer. IAC bought it for over a billion

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dollars in 2005, dropped Jeeves in 2006 rebranding to Ask.com, but never seriously caught up to

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Google or even Yahoo, despite multiple relaunches. Um, dropping the Jeeves was a mistake in my opinion.

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I don't think they were ever going to catch up, but I think they should have, if they wanted to

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make, uh, you know, a zone for themselves, they should have, I think, laid into the Jeeves side

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of things even more. Especially in a world where, like, I feel like one of the things that's almost

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holding back the, the relation, the, the emotions that people feel towards their, their AI chatbots

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is the lack of a, of an avatar. Like, uh, like a Jeeves, I think if anything, the timing for

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Jeeves could be better than ever if it was powered by AI.

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Almost agentic search. So you should, you could tell it to go look for something and it might

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actually even take a bit, but it goes and like tries to gather things for you. I think there's

02:14:47.080 --> 02:14:50.840
something for you. Or even does something for you. Yeah. Like it goes and it tries to find,

02:14:50.840 --> 02:14:58.280
you know, the, which VPN, hey Jeeves, uh, which regional VPN do I have to use in order to get

02:14:58.280 --> 02:15:03.400
the best price on this ticket? Uh, please make sure you're using an IP other than mine to search.

02:15:03.400 --> 02:15:08.280
Cause like, I'm sure you've run into this loop where the second time you look at something,

02:15:08.280 --> 02:15:14.280
the price goes up, right? And it doesn't matter like, you know, which region you pretend to be from

02:15:14.280 --> 02:15:20.040
or like what computer you, like somehow they follow you and they know, oh yeah, they've looked at it

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twice. They're going to book it. Like I'd be, I'd be so down for that. Yeah.

02:15:31.000 --> 02:15:37.480
Ballester says, you're saying you don't like Cortana. No, I mean, what I didn't like about Cortana was that it was just useless. It just sucked.

02:15:38.200 --> 02:15:41.880
Honestly, the idea, I was really excited when Cortana was first announced.

02:15:42.600 --> 02:15:47.480
Yeah, me too. And then it was just terrible. The problem wasn't the packaging. The problem was

02:15:47.560 --> 02:15:53.240
the product. The packaging was actually fantastic. A little circle was good. The Cortana voice was

02:15:53.240 --> 02:15:59.400
like obviously fantastic. And then just garbage product.

02:16:01.240 --> 02:16:06.920
Yeah. Once again, just the timing for the branding and the usefulness of the products just didn't

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quite line up. Okay. This is going to be a controversial take. Are you ready?

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No. What happened to Good News way in show? No, no. I don't feel like it's been in full force this

02:16:23.320 --> 02:16:28.440
show. The Good News. No, no, no, dude, there's lots of good news coming. There's good news. All right.

02:16:28.440 --> 02:16:34.920
Okay. Nintendo is joining its competition in raising the price of their consoles. There's

02:16:34.920 --> 02:16:39.400
lots of good news coming. You'll pay more for consoles. No, no, this is the good news part.

02:16:39.400 --> 02:16:46.360
The good news is that Nintendo is giving several months of warning before the change in price

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goes into effect. So basically, here's a quote, in light of changes in market conditions, Nintendo

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has revised the MSRP of the Switch 2 around the world and the Switch 1 along with playing cards

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and the Nintendo Online membership in Japan. The price of the Switch 2 is going to go up around

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$50 globally. Complete pricing is in the Nintendo link if you want to show it. That's a smaller

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increase than both Sony and Microsoft put in place for their 2020 hardware. So like

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hardware that theoretically they paid the development cost on a long time ago. Outside of

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Japan though, consumers, even though it's a $50 increase compared to the much higher ones from

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Sony and Microsoft, consumers will have until September 1st to buy one at the current price.

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As far as price increases go, giving people, what do we got here? Yeah, we've got over three months

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to save up and buy a Switch 2 if we want it at the current price. That is, I mean,

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is that worth nothing? It's not like Nintendo chose for component costs to go up.

02:17:57.240 --> 02:18:00.920
Wait, why is the online subscription going up?

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I think that's only in Japan though, right?

02:18:07.560 --> 02:18:09.160
The notes say Japan. Yeah, maybe.

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That doesn't line up though. Open price.

02:18:20.360 --> 02:18:23.960
I don't know what open price means. One interesting thing from this is that the

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European and American pricing is matching up now. The current price was cheaper in the US by 20 bucks

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and they're now aligning. Canada, we still suck, so it is what it is.

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Yeah, interesting. If they were going to do it, I appreciate the heads up.

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Yeah, I guess that's the most silver lining thing that I can

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find in this. It's a good news show.

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But the good news is that they gave us warning and so I need to make sure I talk about it on

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WAN Show so that if you really wanted to Switch 2, then you can get it now still

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for the original price before it goes up. That's the good news, Luke, because if we didn't talk

02:19:15.080 --> 02:19:19.960
about this and someone got blindsided by it on September the 2nd, that's on us.

02:19:20.680 --> 02:19:23.720
No. You've got to give people a shot.

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I'm not shouldering that responsibility.

02:19:27.000 --> 02:19:32.760
We've got to bring the people the news they need to know. Okay, this is important news,

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because 50 bucks is 50 bucks, man. If you were going to do it anyway, then...

02:19:43.480 --> 02:19:47.560
No, I mean, if you were going to buy one anyway, then I'm sure you'd rather buy it for $50 less.

02:19:47.640 --> 02:19:49.960
That's like half a Nintendo game.

02:19:51.320 --> 02:19:54.680
All this informs me is if you were thinking about selling your Switch 2 that you should

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wait a little bit. True, true. Is there anything that would compel you to buy

02:20:03.480 --> 02:20:08.120
Switch 2 yet at this point? I have one. Sorry, compel you to use it.

02:20:08.120 --> 02:20:14.360
And I'm upset about it. I still haven't busted out Donkey Kong and busy with other things,

02:20:14.360 --> 02:20:21.960
but I bought it mostly for Emma, because she was a really big fan of the old school

02:20:21.960 --> 02:20:28.680
Nintendo era Donkey Kong games. But I mean, I would say I was interested in it.

02:20:28.680 --> 02:20:34.920
My family was real big into the yellow cartridge Donkey Kong 64 game. That game was sick,

02:20:34.920 --> 02:20:41.160
but I didn't really play many of the other ones. And other than that, I haven't personally heard

02:20:41.160 --> 02:20:46.280
of a Nintendo game that has been super attractive yet. There hasn't been a...

02:20:51.240 --> 02:20:56.360
Yeah, I don't think so. Modern Pokemon games are not that interesting to me. I haven't seen a...

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I could see a Breath of the Wild style Zelda game coming out and being nice. I'm happy now.

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The conspiracy theory is that Fox, whatever his name is,

02:21:10.760 --> 02:21:15.960
was shoehorned into the Mario Galaxy movie because there's a game coming and ended up

02:21:15.960 --> 02:21:21.160
being true. So the Star Fox announcement just came out. Oh, I didn't even know that was a thing, but it just makes sense.

02:21:22.360 --> 02:21:30.120
I didn't know any part of that story. Yeah, without people knowing anything else, just Star Fox being in that movie was like,

02:21:30.120 --> 02:21:38.440
okay, this is an IP that Nintendo has not made a game with in a very long time.

02:21:38.440 --> 02:21:43.000
Dude, I never played the original Star Fox, but I think I would be interested in picking this up.

02:21:45.080 --> 02:21:55.960
Oh, it looks kind of sweet, actually. Original Star Fox was revolutionary and a game that I just could not get into.

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I was a pilot wings kid 100%. No Star Fox for me.

02:22:02.680 --> 02:22:06.520
You'd love the new one. The gameplay is incredibly tight and satisfying.

02:22:06.520 --> 02:22:11.800
Have you played it? It was there like somewhere that you could play this?

02:22:15.320 --> 02:22:20.200
Wait, it's a Star Fox 64 remake?

02:22:20.200 --> 02:22:25.720
Oh, that's honestly disappointing.

02:22:28.360 --> 02:22:28.840
Okay.

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Oh no, Nintendo says it's based on the classic.

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Hold on a second. Oh wait, based on the classic space shooter Star Fox 64,

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but with redesigned characters and upgraded visuals. All righty then. Well, that was a cool conversation while it lasted.

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So this went from, that makes me excited to have had a switch to to

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considering it's probably gonna be full fat price or close to it. I'm gonna do better. I'm gonna do better. All right.

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On Monday, Blackberry's stock jumped 13%. Yes, that Blackberry.

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Is it still a Canadian company? Yes. Really? 13% in pre-market trading after a Wall Street Journal feature reminded everyone

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that Blackberry, a decade after ditching phones, does in fact still exist and is profitable again.

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The driver of the new profit, pun intended, is QNX, a real-time operating system that Blackberry

02:23:33.240 --> 02:23:37.560
acquired in 2010 that I was reading a couple articles about this. I kind of went down the

02:23:37.560 --> 02:23:42.520
rabbit hole because I was like, what? So that Blackberry acquired in 2010

02:23:42.520 --> 02:23:49.160
and that just was like kind of quietly doing their own thing, being mostly ignored by Blackberry,

02:23:49.720 --> 02:23:55.160
but that now accounts for about half of the company's revenue and is embedded in roughly

02:23:55.160 --> 02:24:03.240
275 million cars on the road today. So this is separate from the like, you know,

02:24:03.240 --> 02:24:09.880
Android automotive or like whatever operating system you might interface with in your car.

02:24:10.520 --> 02:24:16.840
This is running things like collision warnings, blind spot monitoring. So like when the LED lights

02:24:16.840 --> 02:24:26.120
up on your mirror, QNX is doing that, adaptive cruise, lane keep assist. They knew they were

02:24:26.120 --> 02:24:32.760
gonna lose the infotainment war like a decade ago, so they've pivoted deeper and deeper into

02:24:33.160 --> 02:24:41.640
real-time safety-critical features. Yeah, sweet. Blackberry's Q4 revenue, and this blew my mind,

02:24:41.640 --> 02:24:50.600
hit $156 million, up 10% year-over-year, with QNX itself bringing in $78.7 million, up 20%.

02:24:52.200 --> 02:24:57.000
Although it is worth noting that the stock is still down about 96% from its 2008 peak

02:24:57.720 --> 02:25:02.520
when it topped $83 billion. I mean, they're on top of the world. That's kind of whatever.

02:25:02.520 --> 02:25:08.520
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, I mean, that's pretty cool. What a turnaround story. The

02:25:08.520 --> 02:25:13.720
fact that they are making money again is pretty crazy. What is the rest of their money? Where are

02:25:13.720 --> 02:25:19.320
they making the rest of the 70 whatever million dollars? I don't know. For a while, they were in

02:25:19.320 --> 02:25:25.880
like secure messaging. They still have secure communications. Okay. Yeah, all I really cared

02:25:25.880 --> 02:25:31.320
about was this QNX thing and like, sorry, who are these guys? Where did this come from?

02:25:31.960 --> 02:25:39.240
How is this worth? $78.7 million a quarter? Okay. Yeah, it just blew my mind.

02:25:39.240 --> 02:25:47.640
Yeah, they do sovereign on-prem infrastructure for governments, NATO stuff. Yeah, okay.

02:25:47.640 --> 02:25:50.840
I mean, Blackberry was known for that. They were known for security. Yeah.

02:25:53.160 --> 02:25:58.520
All right. I thought it was pretty cool that Blackberry's back, maybe. More like Backberry.

02:25:59.480 --> 02:26:02.760
Okay. I got another one. I got another one you're going to like.

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A scientific team in China mounted a prototype 10 megawatt nuclear power unit to a truck.

02:26:13.480 --> 02:26:20.520
This thing is designed to act as a portable power bank that is expected to last several decades

02:26:21.160 --> 02:26:27.640
without requiring a recharge. So to put it in context, 10 megawatts is about the power of a

02:26:27.640 --> 02:26:35.080
medium-sized AI data center. And this could be just like on the back of a truck. Applications

02:26:35.080 --> 02:26:42.760
include, sorry? Pretty wild. Yeah. Applications include powering remote regions, emergency

02:26:42.760 --> 02:26:50.200
power restoration during disasters, and propelling maritime vehicles. Imagine that for a second, Luke.

02:26:51.080 --> 02:26:57.000
We have nuclear sub at home. Like what? Are you kidding me?

02:26:59.640 --> 02:27:06.280
The team has spoken about similar systems for use at the micro-watt level for healthcare applications

02:27:06.280 --> 02:27:10.840
like pacemakers. Oh, apparently they're also being considered for space systems.

02:27:11.560 --> 02:27:15.560
There is growing private interest in nuclear with Amazon investing in modular reactors,

02:27:15.640 --> 02:27:21.160
while Google builds a small reactor in Tennessee. Amazon, Google, Meta, and Microsoft have all

02:27:21.160 --> 02:27:29.880
joined the World Nuclear Association. I could see that being a really cool outcome of the AI boom

02:27:29.880 --> 02:27:37.320
and crash is if all these tech companies use all of their buckets and buckets and buckets of money

02:27:37.320 --> 02:27:43.720
to build a bunch of clean nuclear power, and then the market crashes and they don't need it anymore,

02:27:43.720 --> 02:27:49.560
and then we would just have a lot of really clean power infrastructure. To be clear, I don't

02:27:49.560 --> 02:27:52.760
actually... As long as it's heavily regulated. I don't think that's going to happen. That's not

02:27:52.760 --> 02:28:01.160
going to happen, but can a girl dream, Luke? Then we're cool. You can dream if it's heavily

02:28:01.160 --> 02:28:09.640
regulated dreaming. Oh yeah, to be very clear. To be very clear. I would like nuclear power to be done

02:28:09.640 --> 02:28:16.040
with all of the regulation and all of the safety checks, but I thought the size of this,

02:28:16.040 --> 02:28:24.760
the size to output ratio of this thing is so cool. So cool. 10 million watts

02:28:27.720 --> 02:28:30.920
on something that is portable enough to be transported with a truck.

02:28:32.120 --> 02:28:35.960
Pretty freaking awesome. Unbelievable. Yeah. By truck, did you look at pictures? Do they mean

02:28:36.040 --> 02:28:42.280
like semi-truck? What's the scale that we're talking about? We're talking semi-truck. Yeah,

02:28:42.280 --> 02:28:47.240
thought so. I mean, that's still insane. I'm not talking, I'm just trying to understand.

02:28:47.240 --> 02:28:54.920
In the back of your F-150 or whatever. Yeah. Strap it in. Okay. Yeah, buddy.

02:28:56.600 --> 02:29:03.080
All right. Okay, hold on. Hold on. I can do more. I can do more. Okay. This is cool. Do you want to

02:29:03.080 --> 02:29:13.560
bring up the LTT Labs website? That's cheating. Yeah, that's cheating. Lucas uploaded yet another

02:29:13.560 --> 02:29:20.120
really cool article this week. Just a freaking banger, dude. That I read top to bottom because I

02:29:20.120 --> 02:29:27.160
was all like, yeah. Yeah, what is up with that? So the question that he set out to answer is

02:29:28.120 --> 02:29:37.320
what's up with power supply series, like say, for example, the NZXT C-Core Gold series,

02:29:37.880 --> 02:29:43.800
where you've got what is seemingly one power design or one power supply design that's rated for

02:29:43.800 --> 02:29:52.680
anywhere from, I believe it goes from 750 Watts to 850 Watts to 1,000 Watts. But as you can see,

02:29:52.680 --> 02:30:00.440
if you look at them, clearly all using the same PCB and functionally, a lot of the same design.

02:30:01.320 --> 02:30:08.520
There are minor changes, but yeah. Yeah, there are. And Lucas dives into all of them explaining

02:30:08.520 --> 02:30:14.920
which changes impact which characteristics of the power supply and what they mean for these

02:30:14.920 --> 02:30:21.080
different units and their ability to provide different amounts of power in a sustained fashion.

02:30:21.160 --> 02:30:26.120
And I just thought it was a really cool read because it was something that I had like,

02:30:27.240 --> 02:30:33.320
had half a thought about in the past, but never really even gotten as far as forming the full

02:30:33.320 --> 02:30:37.640
thought, let alone asking somebody the answer to the question. And he just did such a good

02:30:37.640 --> 02:30:45.080
job of getting right out ahead of me and completely answering it and asking it all in one go with

02:30:45.080 --> 02:30:48.840
great pictures that illustrate the differences. And I, yeah, I just thought it was, I thought it

02:30:48.840 --> 02:30:53.960
was a really cool article and I read the crap out of it. I loved it. There's also been, there's

02:30:53.960 --> 02:30:57.960
been a lot of really good stuff on the articles front recently, the I bought article, which I think

02:30:57.960 --> 02:31:03.960
we've maybe already called on Wenshaw's fantastic popular Linux gaming distros. We're adapting

02:31:03.960 --> 02:31:08.200
that into a video, by the way. Yeah. So I'm working on writing for it now. I actually wrote one of

02:31:08.200 --> 02:31:12.440
the funniest, I'm the writer for it and I wrote one of the funniest intros that I think I've

02:31:12.440 --> 02:31:20.920
ever written. Nice. Yeah. Do you want to preview? You can just say no. You can just say you don't

02:31:20.920 --> 02:31:25.640
care about my work. That's fine. You can do that. What do you mean by preview? Do you mean like,

02:31:25.640 --> 02:31:30.520
you have a clip of it? No, I mean, like I can read it. Are you going to read it? Sure. Yeah.

02:31:30.520 --> 02:31:36.840
Sure. Okay. So I'm going to have, I mean, just, I always love the comedic value of one actor

02:31:36.840 --> 02:31:41.560
playing multiple characters. So it might just be me playing both of the characters,

02:31:41.560 --> 02:31:48.200
or I might have someone else be the husband. But we're going to do like an altar scene,

02:31:48.200 --> 02:31:53.320
like for a wedding. And we're going to start with like the the officiant saying, do you,

02:31:54.040 --> 02:31:59.400
Joe Gamer, take Linux to be your lawfully wedded operating system to have until, and then we're

02:31:59.400 --> 02:32:04.440
going to cut. So we're going to have me standing in front of like a crappy plate of like church pews

02:32:04.440 --> 02:32:10.920
or something. I'm going to stand up and be like, I object. She's no operating system. She's a kernel.

02:32:11.640 --> 02:32:15.640
And then we're going to have like a crowd gas like sound effects thing. And then

02:32:16.760 --> 02:32:21.800
I'm going to like pull back the, the, the, the penguin suit. And we're going to have like a

02:32:21.800 --> 02:32:26.280
colonel Sanders mask. And then we're going to, and then we're just going to like, we're going to do

02:32:26.280 --> 02:32:31.640
like a hard cut because that is the dumbest joke of all time. Just be okay. Jokes aside.

02:32:31.640 --> 02:32:39.000
What if it's, what if it's, what if it's just the bride is like obscured by the veil? And then

02:32:39.080 --> 02:32:43.240
when you yell the, it's a colonel and they, they turn to the screen. It's just a penguin being like

02:32:45.400 --> 02:32:48.360
Oh, I was going to have the bride be someone in a penguin costume.

02:32:49.080 --> 02:32:52.600
I know, but you peel back the penguin costume. Like they're, they're already,

02:32:55.000 --> 02:32:57.400
maybe I'm being the latest guy. I don't know, whatever. Don't worry about it.

02:32:58.840 --> 02:33:03.560
So, okay. But jokes aside, there is a common misconception that Linux is an operating system

02:33:03.560 --> 02:33:07.560
when in truth, it's just one part of a fully functioning operating system. Specifically,

02:33:07.560 --> 02:33:12.680
it's the colonel with a K, not that one. The part that's responsible for managing resources and

02:33:12.680 --> 02:33:17.240
communications between the operating system and your physical hardware. So we, so it's just kind

02:33:17.240 --> 02:33:24.600
of like a, it's just like a super goofy opportunity to, you know, have a fun costume and have a really

02:33:24.600 --> 02:33:31.800
memorable way to, without being all unactually and insufferable about it, remind people that Linux

02:33:31.800 --> 02:33:37.960
is not in fact an operating system. It is a colonel and that's one of the big challenges that it

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faces both in terms of support from game developers and also in terms of choosing the right one.

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And that's how we're ultimately going to get into the meat of the video, which is

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what are the performance differences for gamers between the various Linux distros that are out

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there. And that was, if you guys want spoilers for the answer, the article is already up on

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lttlabs.com and you can go check it out. Let's, uh, let's get our last sponsors out of the way.

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This is huge and awesome. Very cool. Good and cool. This is the kind of thing that is just going to

02:38:24.520 --> 02:38:30.360
give these guys more resources to do what they already would have done. And that's one of those

02:38:30.360 --> 02:38:35.960
things that I just, I believe so strongly is that giving people who would have done it anyway

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better tools and more resources is, and man, I hate to make a definitive statement on this,

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but I think it might be the best way to get an incredible result that is better for everybody

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involved when you've got passionate people that cared enough to do it already anyway.

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And then you can give them the comfort and peace of mind and security to do that without having

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to worry about where they're going to get their next meal or their day job or whatever. You are

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just going to get such a passionately, thoughtfully crafted end result. And I just, I love to see

02:39:16.920 --> 02:39:22.680
people, I love to see people rewarded for the hard work that they're doing for open source.

02:39:22.680 --> 02:39:29.800
This is, this is really exciting. Holy crap. What the heck? What's up? Do we need audio for this?

02:39:32.600 --> 02:39:36.840
Oh, dude, that's what you found. Okay, Luke was looking for the next topic. Yeah, this one's cool.

02:39:36.840 --> 02:39:42.280
There's a subject called Cool LTT Render by I Eat Pizza 88 on Reddit. And I was like,

02:39:42.280 --> 02:39:45.880
oh, that'll be kind of neat. And then I looked at it and I was like, what?

02:39:46.680 --> 02:39:53.720
You've blown everyone audio playing elsewhere. So I need you. Hold on. Is it just the show? Do

02:39:53.720 --> 02:39:59.400
you know? I could just, I think it's the show. I think it's the show. Is it gone now? Yes.

02:39:59.400 --> 02:40:05.480
Got it. It was the show. Well, to see and enable that button. Okay. I don't know if Linus will

02:40:05.480 --> 02:40:11.720
be able to hear this, but hopefully we will. That's fine. I've heard it. I got nothing.

02:40:12.600 --> 02:40:15.400
I accidentally paused it immediately, I guess. Am I bad? Wow.

02:40:16.920 --> 02:40:20.440
I wonder if there's, hold on. Hold on one sec. Hold on one sec. No, no, no, no, it's working.

02:40:20.440 --> 02:40:23.160
Okay, we're holding on. We're holding on. There are these dregs in here. What's in here?

02:40:28.120 --> 02:40:34.680
I do not have enough resolution to read that. Projects. Sexy Segway. Sexy Segway Tech House,

02:40:34.680 --> 02:40:39.400
Top Secret, AMD Tech Upgrade Shoots. There's some, there's some these dregs in there. Okay,

02:40:39.480 --> 02:40:39.960
click play.

02:40:51.080 --> 02:40:56.360
Is this copyrighted music? Did we check? Well, I guess it is what it is at this point.

02:40:57.800 --> 02:40:58.680
We didn't check at all.

02:41:02.920 --> 02:41:08.680
So cool. Gut dying. We're not done. Oh my god, it's so good.

02:41:09.400 --> 02:41:22.120
Wow. That's actually like just fantastic. How cool is that? And they said, they said,

02:41:23.240 --> 02:41:32.040
all Blender, all hand on, no AI. And I'm trying to, I'm trying to hold on. I'm trying to remember.

02:41:32.760 --> 02:41:39.960
Was this their, was this their first full animation in Blender? Let me double check.

02:41:42.520 --> 02:41:46.040
I seem to recall they said something about that, but my Wi-Fi is not that fast,

02:41:46.040 --> 02:41:48.760
especially when I'm streaming. Personal project. Yep.

02:41:49.880 --> 02:41:56.760
I don't see it saying first. Personal project in Blender. That's so cool. The 2D and the sound

02:41:56.760 --> 02:42:03.320
design was done in After Effects and they said they used zero AI. If you want to see how it was

02:42:03.320 --> 02:42:09.000
made, let me know. I plan on doing a breakdown at some point. How flipping cool is that? I didn't,

02:42:09.000 --> 02:42:12.280
I didn't see this because they embedded the video directly to Reddit, but they also have a YouTube

02:42:12.280 --> 02:42:18.600
channel that they posted it on Haroon. So check that out. It doesn't have that many views. So go,

02:42:18.600 --> 02:42:24.600
go there and say hi here as well. I'm sure if there is updates, it might be on the Reddit,

02:42:24.600 --> 02:42:28.280
but it will definitely be on their YouTube channel. So go there, get subscribed.

02:42:30.680 --> 02:42:39.640
It's just, it's so, it's so cool to see the kinds of things that, that people will just

02:42:39.640 --> 02:42:49.400
create spontaneously like that. Like that's, it's like no offense, you know, but I'm amazed at how

02:42:49.400 --> 02:42:55.560
good it is. Like it's incredible. It's not that I don't, what was his name again? It's not that I

02:42:55.560 --> 02:43:01.720
don't believe in you, sir. Haroon. It's not that I don't believe in you. I eat pizza 88. It's just

02:43:01.720 --> 02:43:06.920
that you just, you made it way better than I would have ever thought that you could make it as your

02:43:06.920 --> 02:43:13.880
first Blender project. It's, it's, I would never know that you weren't a pro watching this.

02:43:14.680 --> 02:43:21.800
Fantastic. Yeah. So cool. Like it looks like a real ad.

02:43:23.880 --> 02:43:31.240
Speaking of so cool, if you own any, Samsung's valuation reached one trillion dollars on Wednesday

02:43:31.240 --> 02:43:34.120
as shares of the South Korean tech giant surged more than 10%.

02:43:36.680 --> 02:43:39.880
We are partially maybe losing lives. I'm just going to keep going. On Wednesday,

02:43:39.960 --> 02:43:49.160
Samsung stock surged 15%. Okay. Crossing one trillion dollars and making the second Asian

02:43:49.160 --> 02:43:55.160
company pass that mark after TSMC. The rally followed Samsung's record Q1 earnings last week,

02:43:55.160 --> 02:44:02.440
where operating profit jumped more than eight fold and Q1 alone topped the company's entire

02:44:02.440 --> 02:44:09.160
2025 profit. Jeez. Driven by AI memory demand. Samsung's profit engine is high band with memory

02:44:09.160 --> 02:44:15.160
or HBM, where it currently trails SK Hynex at about 25% market share, but recently started

02:44:15.160 --> 02:44:21.720
mass producing HBM for the latest generation expected to power NVIDIA's upcoming Vera Rubin AI

02:44:21.720 --> 02:44:26.920
architecture. Discussion question. What impact, if any, do you think this will have on Samsung's

02:44:26.920 --> 02:44:34.680
consumer products? I don't think it will have any. Samsung has always been very excited to be in

02:44:34.680 --> 02:44:39.000
everything ever. It's kind of funky to walk around Korea. I haven't been there in a long time,

02:44:39.000 --> 02:44:43.160
but it's kind of funky to walk around Korea and just see all the different things labeled with

02:44:43.160 --> 02:44:50.920
Samsung. There's Samsung tanks. Military. Yeah. There's Samsung toilets. There's Samsung insurance.

02:44:51.880 --> 02:44:55.400
There's Samsung, whatever the heck you could possibly imagine. I don't think they're ever

02:44:55.400 --> 02:44:59.960
going to give that up, but like, and what I mean by that is I don't think they're going to do a

02:44:59.960 --> 02:45:04.360
micron where they just like shut down their consumer division. I don't see that happening personally.

02:45:05.160 --> 02:45:13.160
Because they like being everywhere, but they do have the weight to just scale. So I do suspect

02:45:13.160 --> 02:45:17.560
they'll probably do that. Where they were saying here, they started mass producing HBM4. It's like,

02:45:17.560 --> 02:45:21.800
yeah, I see them doing stuff like that. Increasing production, hiring more people, expanding even

02:45:21.800 --> 02:45:28.920
further. They like are South Korea. So yeah, I wouldn't be too surprised if they just kept going.

02:45:29.640 --> 02:45:34.920
Um, so that I'm back, baby. I don't know if that fits into good news. We ain't showing either.

02:45:36.840 --> 02:45:46.600
Uh, Samsung space. It's good news for Samsung. I can't do it. I can't do it. No one can.

02:45:47.240 --> 02:45:51.320
Oh, that's an amazing reference. If you're wondering what Dan and I are referencing,

02:45:51.320 --> 02:45:57.160
that's one of the red alert games. I think it's two. Oh man. That's the wrong one. I don't know

02:45:57.160 --> 02:46:03.480
if I want to show it on screen, but it's like, uh, I will, I will go to the last place not corrupted

02:46:03.480 --> 02:46:13.720
by capitalism. Space. It's amazing. You can tell he's fighting off laughter at the end there.

02:46:14.520 --> 02:46:21.720
It's a, oh, it's command and conquer not readily. I always mix the two. It is a core part of my

02:46:22.520 --> 02:46:29.960
being. Oh yeah. It's amazing. Did I drop me? Yes, you did. You're back now. How far did I get?

02:46:31.000 --> 02:46:38.840
Nowhere at all. All right. I hate it here. Sick. We're back to orange bars, green bars. Yeah, we

02:46:38.840 --> 02:46:45.800
can keep going. Okay. All right. Here's my good news spin on our last story. Um, just a few hours

02:46:45.800 --> 02:46:52.680
after, um, the evening of May 5th, when a large chunk of Germany's internet went down, it was

02:46:52.680 --> 02:47:00.600
restored. Ah, good news. The internet was restored is good news. Yeah. This is our, oh, sorry. Okay,

02:47:00.600 --> 02:47:07.080
I understand. I don't think that's how that works. Yeah, that's fine. The outage ran from

02:47:07.080 --> 02:47:14.440
9 57 p.m. So 21 57 to a little after one in the morning, the next morning, knocking offline major

02:47:14.520 --> 02:47:25.560
sites like Amazon, DHL, Steam, eBay, and German news outlets. Um, only, um, domains that were had,

02:47:25.560 --> 02:47:34.040
that were pushed out faulty DNS sec signatures were affected. Uh, Denik, which is the registry

02:47:34.040 --> 02:47:40.360
that manages the company's dot de domains and who apparently, uh, pushed these faulty DNS sec

02:47:40.360 --> 02:47:45.160
signatures, hasn't published an official root cause yet. Though some commentators have pointed

02:47:45.160 --> 02:47:50.360
to a botched zone signing key rollover. The registry says that it will release more details

02:47:50.360 --> 02:47:57.000
once the investigation wraps up. Um, our discussion question here is, do events like this make you

02:47:57.000 --> 02:48:02.120
worried about the many unknown single points of failure that there are for vital digital

02:48:02.120 --> 02:48:08.120
infrastructure? And I mean, I think the answer is, uh, is a resounding and obvious. Yes. Yes, it does.

02:48:09.080 --> 02:48:12.680
Like I'd never even heard of these guys and all of a sudden like, you know,

02:48:12.680 --> 02:48:16.840
Steam's not accessible for an entire country. Are you kidding me? What the heck?

02:48:17.720 --> 02:48:21.800
Honestly, my gut reaction was no, but the only reason why my gut reaction was no is because

02:48:21.800 --> 02:48:29.960
like, man, yeah, there's so much more. It's crazy. I mean, one of the wild things that we've been

02:48:29.960 --> 02:48:37.320
seeing lately is the, uh, the cable cutting boats, uh, ships, maybe I should say, um, with

02:48:37.320 --> 02:48:43.160
undersea cables. I think, I think China literally just did this to Taiwan like very recently. Uh,

02:48:43.160 --> 02:48:50.280
we saw a lot of this in the Ukraine and Russian war. Um, I was that even allegedly,

02:48:50.280 --> 02:48:54.280
I didn't think the, the Chinese Taiwan one was allegedly, I think they just, I thought they

02:48:54.280 --> 02:49:03.720
just did it. Um, let me check. Um, Taiwan detained and prosecuted Chinese crews for deliberately

02:49:03.720 --> 02:49:13.560
severing undersea's communication cables. Um, BBC source sentenced to three years in prison.

02:49:14.440 --> 02:49:19.400
It just says Chinese national though. I don't know if they've been able to prove that the

02:49:19.400 --> 02:49:23.240
Chinese government did it. I just wanted to mean deeply enough into it, but I thought it was like

02:49:23.240 --> 02:49:28.280
literally a ship designed to do this, that they were like testing and then it worked. But I, I

02:49:28.280 --> 02:49:36.840
don't know, but either way, there's man, the internet as we know it is such a crazy combination of

02:49:36.840 --> 02:49:41.240
building blocks of different systems and organizations and people and individuals and open

02:49:41.240 --> 02:49:46.760
source software and closed source software and, and a massive variety of companies. And the fact

02:49:46.840 --> 02:49:55.000
that it all works is, it's all works and has insane uptime as a like generalized system.

02:49:55.000 --> 02:50:02.440
The fact that I'm talking to you right now is a miracle. Like we should never stop believing

02:50:02.440 --> 02:50:08.600
that we should never take it for granted because it's the deeper you go into it. I feel like it's,

02:50:08.600 --> 02:50:14.920
it's like one of those, um, it's like one of those, uh, low, those like IQ curves. Uh, what,

02:50:14.920 --> 02:50:19.640
what is it like, like dumb, smart, smart, dumb, smart or like whatever, but basically like,

02:50:20.520 --> 02:50:25.960
yeah, how, how amazed you are by the internet. Like if you're super dumb, you're like super,

02:50:25.960 --> 02:50:32.120
super amazed. And then if you're kind of like mid-wit, then you might not be that amazed. And

02:50:32.120 --> 02:50:39.880
then if you're super smart, you're probably really amazed because there's like, there's so much

02:50:40.120 --> 02:50:46.360
like professional grade duct tape. No, I know it's called a bell curve, but it's like, it's like a,

02:50:46.360 --> 02:50:55.720
like a mid-wit, um, meme, uh, bell curve. I watched a video last night where, uh,

02:50:55.720 --> 02:51:04.280
Destin from Stoner Everyday was talking to, uh, to the astronauts on the ISS. And I, I kind of

02:51:04.600 --> 02:51:11.720
like mentally paused partway through just to like marvel. And I understand it's not new technology,

02:51:11.720 --> 02:51:15.800
not by a decent amount, but I, I paused for a second just to marvel at the fact that they were

02:51:15.800 --> 02:51:25.720
having a video call. It's just like, yeah, damn dude, that's crazy. Um, yeah, it's, uh, it's a

02:51:25.720 --> 02:51:32.520
wondrous thing. So there's a, there's a version of the mid-wit meme where the like cloaked genius

02:51:32.520 --> 02:51:37.480
is at both ends of the distribution and then the like, uh, dumb guy is in the middle.

02:51:39.320 --> 02:51:40.680
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:51:44.760 --> 02:51:48.360
Or, or, or, oh, no, it's the, it's, so it's based on the mid-wit meme. Yeah, yeah,

02:51:48.360 --> 02:51:52.360
Sydney broke it, has got it. It's the one where the guys on both ends have the same

02:51:52.360 --> 02:51:57.000
outward opinion, but the middle is like furious. But in this case, it's like the outside is like

02:51:57.080 --> 02:52:04.200
amazed and the middle is like meh. Um, yeah, cool. All right, dude, that's it for topics.

02:52:04.200 --> 02:52:08.520
We're ready to jump into Wancho after dark. What, what all you got for us, Mr. Besser?

02:52:09.320 --> 02:52:13.160
Well, give me a second to change everything over.

02:52:15.480 --> 02:52:19.560
We know you have a life crystal. I just know, I just know you can take it.

02:52:21.160 --> 02:52:25.640
You can handle a little bit of ribbing. I don't mean it that way, but like,

02:52:25.960 --> 02:52:32.120
uh, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stop now. This is also a really cool video. It's from the studio.

02:52:32.120 --> 02:52:35.960
I know David, David ML had a, that's gotta be one of the best to do with it. I'm just

02:52:35.960 --> 02:52:41.080
plowing over you guys. David ML had a lot to do with this. Are there really seven keys to the

02:52:41.080 --> 02:52:47.880
internet? This, if you want to look into more of like, man, how the heck does this thing keep

02:52:47.880 --> 02:52:53.480
working? This is honestly a great video. It was stunning to me that this only got 180,000 views.

02:52:53.480 --> 02:52:59.480
This is a really good video. It's a really interesting look into how some of this stuff works.

02:53:01.800 --> 02:53:09.880
Yeah, anyways. Internet is a crazy thing. Hi, Wandy, getting the ABCs of gaming for my 10-day

02:53:09.880 --> 02:53:16.520
newborn boy, Smiley Face. Oh, congrats. Linus, what is your best tech tip for younger babies?

02:53:16.520 --> 02:53:19.480
When should someone start them out on it? In your opinion, thanks.

02:53:20.360 --> 02:53:26.520
Um, I think you should basically delay it as long as you can, because they're gonna get plenty of

02:53:26.520 --> 02:53:34.680
screen time and plenty of, you know, gaming time. And when they start asking for it is basically,

02:53:34.680 --> 02:53:40.440
when you should start even beginning to ask yourself, you know, should they have any in,

02:53:42.040 --> 02:53:47.160
in my opinion, I mean, there's always going to be times when let's face it, being a parent is not

02:53:47.160 --> 02:53:54.440
always easy. And sometimes you actually just do need a break. KidsTV123 taught my firstborn

02:53:54.440 --> 02:54:01.240
the alphabet and how to count and phonics to YouTube channel. I'm not proud of it,

02:54:01.240 --> 02:54:08.280
but I'm not ashamed by it. As for, as for getting them into tech, I don't think it's really like

02:54:08.280 --> 02:54:14.040
time-based, but it's like motivation-based. So my, my kids had access to all the tech that

02:54:14.040 --> 02:54:19.320
they could possibly want, but they didn't really start like learning 3D printing and modeling

02:54:19.320 --> 02:54:24.280
until the girls wanted to make toys and my eldest wanted to make some money and start a,

02:54:24.280 --> 02:54:31.560
like a side hustle, selling 3D printed stuff. Um, it's gonna, it's gonna happen organically and,

02:54:31.560 --> 02:54:37.000
or, or it might just not. And here's the thing, you can't make your kids be interested in the same

02:54:37.000 --> 02:54:44.680
stuff that you are. Just doesn't work that way. Do it in front of them. That's, that's a big thing.

02:54:45.320 --> 02:54:49.800
They will naturally be interested in whatever it is that you're doing. So if you're always like

02:54:49.800 --> 02:54:55.880
fixing up bicycles or if you're always, uh, you know, working on computers and you make a point

02:54:55.880 --> 02:55:04.120
of involving them, that's your best shot at, um, them adopting like a healthy relationship with,

02:55:04.120 --> 02:55:07.000
you know, whatever it is that is your hobby that you want to do with them.

02:55:09.240 --> 02:55:15.800
Hey Linus, if Project Helix is a steam machine like device and Windows is improved,

02:55:15.800 --> 02:55:18.200
how well do you think it will do against the steam machine?

02:55:19.640 --> 02:55:27.320
Oh, I mean, I feel like Luke has immediate thoughts on this. I could see it. I could see it in his face.

02:55:27.880 --> 02:55:31.320
Uh, I actually don't think they compete that much. Yeah.

02:55:33.080 --> 02:55:38.440
Uh, yeah, I think they're in, I think they're in different markets. I think Microsoft has to

02:55:39.480 --> 02:55:46.200
compete with Steam OS, but on a PC level. Um, I think the people interested in a steam machine

02:55:46.200 --> 02:55:55.400
are interested in having steam on their TV. And if, if Helix is going to matter basically at all,

02:55:56.120 --> 02:55:59.720
it's going to have to have some like, you know, timed exclusives or whatever else.

02:56:01.480 --> 02:56:09.720
Maybe those games work on Windows, but, and, and maybe they sort of work on Linux,

02:56:09.720 --> 02:56:13.960
or maybe they do work on Linux, but with some tinkering or whatever, wherever that line ends up

02:56:13.960 --> 02:56:20.360
being. Um, but yeah, I think they're different devices. I think they're different target audiences.

02:56:20.360 --> 02:56:26.040
And as, as like cool as it is, as, as, you know, Windows is growing, or sorry, Linux is growing in

02:56:26.040 --> 02:56:33.880
installation size, what am I trying to say? Uh, not market cap, market share. Um, in, in market

02:56:33.880 --> 02:56:38.680
share of people that are using things like steam and whatnot, it's still a tiny slice of the pie.

02:56:38.680 --> 02:56:43.960
So like steam machine doing well is not going to be the reason why Helix doesn't make it.

02:56:43.960 --> 02:56:51.240
Like I, I would bet everything on that. Helix might not make it because no one has really

02:56:51.240 --> 02:56:56.120
cared that much about Microsoft consoles in a really long time because they've been not good.

02:56:56.120 --> 02:57:02.040
So it needs to like be really good and be really compelling. Have good freaking games for once.

02:57:02.040 --> 02:57:06.360
What are you doing? And then also be priced well. And if they can accomplish those things,

02:57:06.360 --> 02:57:08.680
then it will matter. And if they can't, it won't. That's it.

02:57:09.480 --> 02:57:17.480
Hey DLL, you've said before you generally have a good sense of how a video will perform pre-launch.

02:57:18.040 --> 02:57:22.680
Have there been any that genuinely surprised you by doing way better than expected?

02:57:23.560 --> 02:57:28.040
Oh, you're going to say, you're saying better than expected. I thought you were going a different

02:57:28.040 --> 02:57:34.120
direction with that. And I had one completely ready for you. Uh, the video keyboard that we

02:57:34.120 --> 02:57:43.400
uploaded earlier this week, the, uh, the flux keyboard, like vastly underperformed compared

02:57:43.400 --> 02:57:50.120
to my expectations. And actually, I guess follow up the, the TV with no smart features,

02:57:50.120 --> 02:57:59.480
the, the Sceptre TV video, um, way overperformed. We got just over half a million views on this

02:57:59.480 --> 02:58:06.920
keyboard that like has an entire screen under it so that you can, uh, change languages on the fly

02:58:06.920 --> 02:58:12.600
or do it's, it's kind of like a, like a stream deck, but an entire keyboard. You can put any

02:58:12.600 --> 02:58:18.680
icons you want that control anything, any hotkeys that you want in basically any software that you

02:58:18.680 --> 02:58:26.840
launch. Um, it's supported by Windows, macOS, and even Linux. Um, it was like really cool.

02:58:26.840 --> 02:58:34.600
It raised almost $4 million on Kickstarter. Super neat. Um, yeah, no one cared. And then

02:58:34.600 --> 02:58:40.120
we did a video on like a Sceptre TV that was more like a, like a writer's meeting like,

02:58:40.120 --> 02:58:44.360
Hey, yeah, what the heck? Why aren't there more like dumb TVs? Does anyone still make dumb TVs?

02:58:44.360 --> 02:58:49.720
Oh, well Sceptre does. Haha. Okay. Let's get one. We'll like maybe just like, you know, unbox it

02:58:49.720 --> 02:58:53.880
and watch it a little bit and see if it's any good. Like two million views. Like, okay. Well,

02:58:53.880 --> 02:59:02.120
I don't know what the rules are anymore. So, um, good luck everybody. Uh, Torpedo Bench says,

02:59:02.120 --> 02:59:07.400
I'm not surprised to hear the screen keyboard underperformed the video watched like an ad.

02:59:08.520 --> 02:59:17.240
That is, that is like super interesting feedback. And I have, I'm going to, I'm going to have to

02:59:17.320 --> 02:59:22.280
watch it again and see if I can figure out like what you mean by that because I, um,

02:59:23.160 --> 02:59:29.000
I have no idea what you're talking about. We, not only is it not an ad, but they didn't even

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send it to us. Like I didn't even buy one. I borrowed it from someone who backed the Kickstarter.

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So I don't really, uh, yeah, okay. I'm going to have to, I'm, I'm going to have to figure out

02:59:43.000 --> 02:59:48.360
what that means exactly. I mean, yeah, we're always, uh, we're always open to feedback,

02:59:48.360 --> 02:59:56.200
but I just don't really know how to have a not ad, um, not look like an ad.

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Um, no, I totally understand it wasn't an ad. It just had ad vibes.

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Interesting. I mean, okay. Current year sucks says even when pointing out the downsides to the

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keyboard, you sounded super positive. I mean, I thought it was really cool. Sorry.

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Charcoal says it was scripted in a similar way to your sponsored content. It wasn't scripted.

03:00:25.240 --> 03:00:28.440
It was actually unscripted. I just thought it was really cool.

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I scripted the intro. Only the intro before we like roller animated intro was scripted.

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That's so funny. So maybe I, so you guys think my unscripted sounds like scripted and my not

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ad sound like ads, so should I just do all scripted ads? Raikenclaw says you're supposed

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to be cynical and dismissive. Like, no, I'm not going to do that. The keyboard's cool.

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This is, man, it's not only, it's not only, um, like, like one person as well saying like it felt

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like an ad. Like there's a number of people in Floatplane chat that are like, yeah, like I felt

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like it had kind of like an ad vibe too. That's so weird to me. Um, turn your socks side to be

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clear. I didn't hate the video. No, no, I'm not saying you hate the video and it's fine if you hate the video. Like it literally are the best videos on the channel still have a 1% dislike

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ratio. You know, somebody dislikes something no matter how quote unquote universally loved it is.

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Um, and this is a scary comment from birdie num nums. They mistook your enthusiasm for marketing.

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That's kind of a terrifying world to live in where you're not allowed to be.

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Is that like TikTok undisclosed ad brain going on?

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I wonder, I do wonder that. That's exactly what I was thinking.

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Huh.

03:02:14.680 --> 03:02:22.840
Um, can you unsay that please? Because I hate it. I mean, I think it's, I've heard, I don't have TikTok.

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I've heard that's a thing. I've heard that there's a lot of undisclosed advertisements on TikTok.

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I can't save from firsthand experience. Um, but like maybe, maybe that's what's going on. Maybe

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you've been trained that if anyone's speaking that way about basically anything that it's an ad

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that is funny. I haven't watched it yet, but it's funny that it was

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unscripted, not an ad. They didn't even send the product, etc.

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Like literally everything people hated about it wasn't, wasn't what it was.

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That's very funny.

03:02:59.480 --> 03:03:01.560
Um, wow.

03:03:06.600 --> 03:03:11.880
It's called, it's called this video raised. I'm talking to Dan. This video raised 3.8 million

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on Kickstarter. It's dollar sign 3.8 M. You got it. Okay.

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Like there's definitely things I think we could have done better. Um, we tried to do that cool

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thing with the packaging where the thumbnail is actually the first frame of the video. So it just

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like starts right away. Um, because I really wanted people to like see the keyboard in action,

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but I think maybe we could have chosen a better video. I just liked the idea of

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like, uh, um, playing a video of a keyboard unboxing while I unboxed a video keyboard

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was just, and you know what? Oh, I wonder if this is something because I shot the intro

03:03:49.880 --> 03:03:54.440
afterward, like after we'd already gotten it working and I was already like super excited

03:03:54.440 --> 03:03:59.960
about it. So maybe that's what's going on. For like an, for like an intro, maybe I seem too excited

03:03:59.960 --> 03:04:04.520
for something that I like hadn't really like explained or shown yet.

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Super stupid server dude, a fantastic name in full plain chat said, I get, I got those ad

03:04:11.560 --> 03:04:23.960
vibes too, and I don't watch TikTok. And then meanwhile, like nobody's mad about the sponsored

03:04:23.960 --> 03:04:29.160
video we did on LG's HTA nine competitor, the, they're like wireless surround thing,

03:04:29.160 --> 03:04:34.040
which by the way, totally unsponsored right now, but is really cool. Um,

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but, uh, huh. For the first time in positive when show era, I think you're going to have

03:04:45.480 --> 03:04:50.040
to take away my bird again. I, yeah, I don't know how to, I don't know how to,

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I don't know how to process this. I'm going to think about it. I'm going to fester.

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I feel like considering how many people have this feedback, I feel like that's worth

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trying to work on and figure out torpedo bench said wild guess, you seem almost too informed

03:05:04.200 --> 03:05:10.600
rather than discovering it along with the viewer. I don't know if he has left in shame.

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He's gone. That is interesting. Again, I haven't watched this one. Maybe I'm part of the problem,

03:05:15.880 --> 03:05:24.280
but oh, he's gone completely over to Luke. Yeah. I'm just getting logged in and I'll do another

03:05:24.280 --> 03:05:32.040
what's up chat. Talk to Luke. How's it going? You must speak to me. I can maybe do

03:05:32.040 --> 03:05:37.640
merge messages if there's any ready and also for me. I have to reconnect him and do things.

03:05:37.640 --> 03:05:46.120
That makes sense. Um, no, I mean, here's one. But what's up boys? Luke, what workout equipment,

03:05:46.120 --> 03:05:50.600
if any, do you have at home looking good? Looking good. I mean, I'm way out of shape.

03:05:50.600 --> 03:05:53.960
Interestingly enough, the first time I've gone to the gym in a really long time was actually

03:05:53.960 --> 03:05:59.720
last night I am. How'd it go? Incredibly sore right now, dude. Oh my God. I did the-

03:05:59.720 --> 03:06:05.880
So you're not just waddling for no reason? No, no, no. I did my chest routine. So I did the whole

03:06:05.880 --> 03:06:12.280
skull crushers thing and everything. Oh, nice. I was fairly surprised at how much I still had.

03:06:15.240 --> 03:06:19.720
Like lateral erases was one that I was expecting to lose a lot of performance in. I was still

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doing 30 pound sets of 12 lateral erases, which I was decently happy with. I had been out for a

03:06:26.600 --> 03:06:33.320
very long time. I had, so like basically, honestly, for surprisingly close to a year,

03:06:33.320 --> 03:06:40.680
I think it's like 10 months. I've basically been out. There was, um, there was, there was a massive

03:06:40.680 --> 03:06:45.720
reno at my house. There was a bunch of moving stuff that was happening and I couldn't get

03:06:45.720 --> 03:06:50.600
spare time to go to the gym for a really long time. And then health thing happened and then

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minor injuries because I wasn't going to the gym for a long time. And then I tried to start doing

03:06:54.680 --> 03:06:58.920
things again. And I have a lot of small issues that if I'm not constantly maintaining them,

03:06:58.920 --> 03:07:03.640
they're problems. And now I've mostly moved through that and I'm going back to going to the gym.

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And yeah, I know I'm just, no, I'm just very, very, very, very sore. I, uh, I tried to, man,

03:07:09.160 --> 03:07:13.400
there was, there was a guy there. I haven't been in so long, right? And it's just a little community

03:07:13.400 --> 03:07:18.760
gym that I go to, nothing too special. So I walk in and I used to recognize like almost everybody

03:07:18.760 --> 03:07:23.560
and I walk in and I recognize like the front desk guy and he was a little bit surprised to see me.

03:07:23.560 --> 03:07:27.720
And I was like, yeah, I'm back and that was cool. And then I walk inside and not a single person

03:07:27.720 --> 03:07:36.360
working out. Do I recognize? Um, partway through my workout, however, this dude walks in and I

03:07:36.360 --> 03:07:42.120
recognize them and he's fricking stacked. He's like way bigger than I, that I remember him being.

03:07:42.120 --> 03:07:46.760
And I was like, wow, cool. And then partway through working out, I, I work up a little bit of courage

03:07:46.760 --> 03:07:50.520
and I, and I walk up to him and I started trying to talk to him. And I was going to say basically

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like, Hey man, like I, you know, I used to come to this gym all the time and I don't know if you

03:07:53.960 --> 03:07:58.360
recognize me, but I remember you from back then and like, it's, I really like appreciate that

03:07:58.360 --> 03:08:03.000
you're still coming. It's like inspiration for me to see that you're still here because nobody else

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is. Uh, and I get like halfway into it. I'm here. I get halfway into it. And he's like, Oh, I'm so

03:08:08.520 --> 03:08:21.320
sorry. No English. I'm like, damn it. Like, Oh no. Um, yeah, but, uh, yeah. So I don't know,

03:08:21.320 --> 03:08:28.680
what workout equipment do I have at home? Uh, I ordered a weight bench and it has taken over

03:08:28.680 --> 03:08:33.560
three months and isn't here yet, but you're going to have a weight bench in fairness. They did say

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that you were going to have to wait for it.

03:08:39.400 --> 03:08:45.640
Geez. Uh, and then I came back just to do that. I have a couple of dumbbells. I'm probably going

03:08:45.640 --> 03:08:49.160
to be trying to get some adjustable dumbbells and with adjustable dumbbells and a weight bench,

03:08:49.160 --> 03:08:52.920
you can do like an incredible amount of stuff. There's this thing that I've been looking into.

03:08:52.920 --> 03:08:58.600
I don't know if I want to talk about it yet, but it's, it's, uh, it's a pulley attachment.

03:08:58.600 --> 03:09:01.720
So you know, when you go to the gym and you, you have the, the, um,

03:09:03.240 --> 03:09:06.760
the like six axis pulley thing that's usually in the middle of the gym. That's not the right

03:09:06.760 --> 03:09:12.520
name for it. I don't remember. Anyways, you have the, the, the pulley machines. It, you can attach

03:09:12.520 --> 03:09:16.920
it. I think it attaches through magnet or you can latch it in, but you can attach it to basically

03:09:16.920 --> 03:09:22.360
anything. And then it has a electronic pulley attachment. Yeah. I think that's right. Um, and

03:09:22.360 --> 03:09:26.440
then you, you, you just dial it to a setting and then you have a pulling machine basically

03:09:26.440 --> 03:09:31.560
anywhere. I don't remember what it's called though. No, wow. Not a Smith machine. Nope. That's if,

03:09:32.280 --> 03:09:37.960
hmm, I may have described that extremely poorly. Uh, Voltra, I think that's right.

03:09:37.960 --> 03:09:45.240
Ultra pulley cable. That's what I'm thinking. Cable, not pulley. Yeah, I've seen these. How

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much are they? I don't even know my laptop just rose. There we go. They might be super crazy

03:09:52.360 --> 03:09:55.800
expensive. Oh my God. I'm not buying one of those. All right. Sick. Sounds good.

03:09:57.160 --> 03:10:14.040
Oh, you want one pulley and you spend $2,100 on it? What? Um, it's a really cool idea. It can go up to

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like put it on a tree, 200 pounds or something. You can attach it to like practically anything

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and then you can have a pulley machine anywhere. Okay. But my God, the price attached to a pulley

03:10:25.640 --> 03:10:33.080
machine. I have a pulley machine on your pulley machine. I might have an ultimate bundle, $6,000.

03:10:33.080 --> 03:10:38.040
It comes with two. You can do both arms at the same time. That's way more efficient.

03:10:39.560 --> 03:10:44.120
If you have that kind of money, you need. Honestly, not buying that is just losing money

03:10:44.120 --> 03:10:51.480
if we think about it. That sounds like financial advice. Yeah. Refocus your butt head. Sorry. My,

03:10:52.440 --> 03:10:57.480
my camera will not refocus right now and I don't know why. Let me see if I can force it to.

03:10:57.480 --> 03:11:03.480
You can't do anything. It's the camera. Yeah, I can. Wait, you can? How did you do that?

03:11:03.480 --> 03:11:09.720
No, it's in focus. You had autofocus disabled. I did? Yeah. How would I do that? I don't know.

03:11:11.640 --> 03:11:15.800
Yeah. I can focus on the background. Everybody's saying it's fake. I didn't touch,

03:11:16.520 --> 03:11:21.080
I didn't, I didn't touch the settings. The only thing that happened was my stupid

03:11:21.080 --> 03:11:27.720
horrible MediaTek Wi-Fi cut out. I didn't touch anything. Weird. It's your fault.

03:11:28.280 --> 03:11:35.480
Okay. More? How did you change the focus on my camera? That is magic. And no, I see you doing

03:11:35.480 --> 03:11:40.920
it, Dan. You don't have to prove you can do it. How did you do it? I clicked on focus.

03:11:41.480 --> 03:11:46.520
Yeah, but like how? The software that I use for the

03:11:49.800 --> 03:11:53.880
video call that we're doing here lets me adjust a bunch of settings. Yes, apparently,

03:11:53.880 --> 03:11:57.480
but explain further. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's like, this is cool.

03:11:59.080 --> 03:12:03.000
I mean, we're not associated with them, but it's called Video Ninja. Yeah, that's fine. Okay.

03:12:04.040 --> 03:12:08.520
And there's a producer section. You can have multiple people. You can do a whole bunch of stuff.

03:12:08.600 --> 03:12:13.320
It lets me see all sorts of stats like round trip latency, buffer settings,

03:12:13.320 --> 03:12:18.440
your webcams, exposure and stuff. What is it set to? 155.8. So I can do this.

03:12:19.080 --> 03:12:24.280
You know, I can adjust your white balance, your color. It really depends. Say you don't know what

03:12:24.280 --> 03:12:30.200
you're doing and you have the wrong audio device or something like that. I can also change your

03:12:30.200 --> 03:12:36.600
audio device. I can request that you change it to a certain thing. Yeah, I'm just, I don't recall

03:12:36.680 --> 03:12:43.000
at any point. I've never had to do it. I gave this application access to my camera,

03:12:43.640 --> 03:12:50.760
but I guess I never really thought about that that meant access to my camera.

03:12:51.640 --> 03:12:57.560
Yeah, I thought that meant access to the video feed. I had no idea that there was even any kind

03:12:57.560 --> 03:13:04.280
of common API for webcams that would, I'm sorry, I just never thought about this before.

03:13:04.280 --> 03:13:08.920
Yeah. And I mean, I said earlier, like, oh, you've got 32 cores on your computer.

03:13:09.560 --> 03:13:13.960
Yeah, yeah. That I figured there was like kind of an obvious way for you to check, but in terms of

03:13:13.960 --> 03:13:18.920
like actually changing settings on the camera, like what? I've doxxed you as well. I've got your

03:13:19.560 --> 03:13:24.280
external IP. I've got like, yeah, yeah, yeah. All sorts of stuff. Well, that I mean, I assume again,

03:13:24.280 --> 03:13:33.320
video call. Maybe. Yeah, but that's exposed to me. Yeah, I don't know. It's a great, I love it.

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What else can you change on my camera? I can change the aspect ratio. I can change the brightness,

03:13:40.840 --> 03:13:46.920
color temperature, I am height, frame rate. Let's make you make me taller.

03:13:48.040 --> 03:13:53.400
Let's give you 21 frames a second. Well, that's this is this is great. I'm glad that I did this

03:13:53.400 --> 03:14:01.400
for the end of the show. Very cool. All right. Why don't we why don't we jump into another

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com? Sure. I'll just leave you yellow then. That works. Hi, LLD, I dived out of a plane at 15,000

03:14:12.120 --> 03:14:18.040
feet for charity last month. I raised 1200 quid. Have any of you ever been skydiving? Also,

03:14:18.040 --> 03:14:26.040
any recommendations for a UPS for a new Ugreen ID X6011 Pro NAS? Can we sell these numbers?

03:14:26.040 --> 03:14:35.480
No. Always been interested, but never enough to bother going through with it, I guess. I suspect

03:14:35.480 --> 03:14:43.480
I will at some point. As for the UPS, I don't know, get whichever one is the APC basic one

03:14:43.480 --> 03:14:50.600
or cyber power basic one that is the capacity that you need. If you're not a data center,

03:14:50.600 --> 03:14:55.960
then that's all you really need to know is get one of those and that'll probably be fine.

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That's a super cool experience though. I've never skydived. I'm not 100% sure that I

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want to do it at all. I'm still thinking about it. Yvonne doesn't want to though,

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and that's a major thing for me, is we like doing things together. Luke, are you on board

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to skydive? Yeah. Yeah, okay. I'd think about it then. I've never had anyone to really push me

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pun intended to go skydiving. That's the thing is my desire level on it has never been

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quite that high, but I've always been down, so it just hasn't really happened yet, but I'm pretty

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confident it will eventually. At one point in time, I was like, I'm going to do it,

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but I want to go the whole way and I want to get certified and I can do solo jumps and stuff,

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and then I looked into the time and the expense and was like, I'm not going to do it.

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Yeah, and the tandem jump is not as appealing to me as going by myself. So the fact that I would

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do it once and it would be the like, for baby's version, to be clear, I still would expect it

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to be extremely thrilling, but I would just like, I would want to do it myself. By the way,

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Rod jumped in and so I'm just going to go ahead and say, he says, go Eaton for your UPS and get

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a lithium, whatever it is. Are they affordable? FEP04. Yeah, yeah. No, Eaton does have consumer

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friendly products. That's cool. I actually didn't know that. Thanks for jumping in with that.

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Wow, they totally do. They look cool too. What? Yep. Yeah, we got a lot of Eaton stuff. It's good.

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It's good things. Rod tips. Did you cook chicken for it first?

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Okay, let's touch it to some merch. Hey, DLO, my wife and I know it's the weekend when the

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WAN Show is on. What do you do with your significant other that makes it feel like the weekend is here?

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I host the WAN Show with him.

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What about Luke? Too easy, too easy. Looks good.

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Hey, Dan, Luke and Linus, question for Linus. What if your most, quote unquote, if they just do this,

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take for a company where you think they'd be super successful, quote unquote, if they just do this?

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Thank you. Oh, okay. If they just do this, they'd be super successful. Okay, so this has to be a

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company that I've heard of, so they have to already be at least reasonably successful. If anyone else

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wants to jump in with them. No, they could be failing, but previously successful.

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We haven't talked about, oh, did you say Microsoft? I said Ubisoft. Oh, okay. Should we use this as our

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excuse to talk about Microsoft? We haven't really dunked on Microsoft yet this show.

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If they just actually put half of the resources into making Windows better that they do into

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stuffing it full of ads and AI, I think they'd be really successful. To be clear,

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they could keep doing what they're doing now and still be really successful. I'm just saying that

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if they did this thing, they would be really successful. I'm not saying they would be unsuccessful

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if they didn't. They also, and like this one, I actually don't want to harp on too much because

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they might maybe be making the right steps to doing it right now,

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but they got to figure out what the heck they're going to do with their massive assortment of

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legendary studios that they have under their belt when they are not like the publisher of the moment

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right now. It doesn't really make a lot of sense. They have so much potential there. They have such

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a wealth of IP and it feels like a lot of mismanagement. I don't remember the name of the

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game, but some game came out, did super well, got rated really well, and then the whole team got

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laid off. I remember just thinking like, I understand the fact that you can't remember

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the name of the game and it happens so often that you're like, which one was it? It is awful.

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It happens a lot with Microsoft. The weird thing to me is I understand what I've heard the strategy

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is, is that if they don't necessarily, I think it was Hi-Fi Rush, yeah, if they don't necessarily

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have something to work on like immediately and they can't ship something like soon, then it

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looks bad on the books now, so they just get rid of them. But the insanity to me is that with the

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amount of IPs that they have, like, holy crap, guys, just put them on something else. They clearly

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made good game. They don't have to make good game version two. They could go make other good game.

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Like, that's, it's okay. You could put these people on, on anything else. You have so many

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different IPs that they could be working on. If you don't have an idea for them right now,

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or if you think Hi-Fi Rush 2 would be too soon or something like that, have them go help another

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team for a while or something, and then split them back off. Who knows, but like, just constantly

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cycling out good talent is not a strategy that is effective. And if you know that you have a team

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that can deliver, just deleting them for short term game, Gain does not feel like a Microsoft strategy.

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That feels like a tiny, has no money, dead around the corner studio strategy that is

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failing and can't keep up. And if you want to make yourself look like that, go ahead, I guess.

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But you're trying to be big guy in the room, Microsoft, and buy every freaking gaming company

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out there, act like it, follow through, find the good teams that are doing well, and assign them

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to something that they can do. And if they can't, if you don't have another thing that they can do,

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put them on temporary assignment, but don't lose that talent. Oh my God. It's like groups like

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Microsoft that have all this IP and all these employees and all this kind of stuff are getting

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just slaughtered by Indies right now. And not even like, you know, you can't properly call

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Larry in a AAA studio, or at least you couldn't, maybe they're getting closer to that.

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But you couldn't when they dropped, well, there's gate three and they just slaughtered everyone.

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And a lot of that is from my understanding from Larry in is they've just over the years

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grown this pool of just incredibly talented people that have just progressively made

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better RPGs over and over and over again over time. Just every time Larry in his release a game,

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it's just gotten better, which is just insane. And you have the capability, you can accomplish that,

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you can do that. And in a lot of these situations, you have some of those people, keep them.

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I like Oh, hi, Josh's. If movie studios could just faithfully adapt a video game

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to a movie, they would be successful, you know, or TV or TV series or whatever.

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Like it's it's blowing my mind that they're remaking Harry Potter when there's so many

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other beloved IPs that you could just, you know, go and license and like do that with,

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you don't stop remaking the same old thing. With that said, I think keeping remaking the

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same old thing does appear to be a license to print money. So don't don't put me in charge of

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movie studio anytime soon. I would have done something crazy, like have people who love

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Star Wars make Star Wars movies. That's nuts. I don't know. I know. I'm basically basically an idiot.

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Hi, DLL. Just fixed a thumbstick while with my wife in the hospital for a chronic condition.

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What games would you recommend for people laid up in the hospital?

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Oh, wow.

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Shouldn't the doctors really be fixing the thumbsticks?

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That's very funny, Dan. No, it's not. Shut up.

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So wait, they want to play a game in the hospital and they can't use their thumbs,

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am I understanding this correctly? No, probably the controller thumbstick broke and now they want to be able to play games.

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And they're stuck up in a hospital? Yes. What's that? What's a good, um, sit in bed all the time?

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It's a good hospital game. I mean, are they saying system? I think they mean like a system,

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like a steam deck. No, games, games, games. Yeah, I would really personally, I think I'd be the last time I was stuck like in a bed

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and couldn't move. My game was Breath of the Wild and a big part of what I liked about,

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maybe that's part of why I liked the open world of it so much was that I was like stuck in bed.

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Well, it's escapism, right? So I would go to like

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the classic recommendations of like Baldur's Gate 3, Expedition 33, Breath of the Wild,

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something like that where it's an RPG that you can get yourself immersed into

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and feel like you're the character so you can kind of escape the area that you are mentally

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and go have some fun. I like that. Yeah.

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Hi, Lyra like and Dominus. I know you like the pebble watch, Linus, but have you ever tried

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the Instinct series of Garmin? Mip screen with basic features and incredible battery life,

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long live buttons. No, but I definitely owe it a shot, because people said of my Garmin

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ShortCircuit that I like picked the worst one apparently or like the worst one for me. So

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I'm like, okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, Garmin fans, I will give it another

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shot. Why does that keep happening to you? Oh, like upsetting fandoms. Just picking the wrong thing.

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Oh, I don't know. It seems like it shouldn't happen this often. Yeah, maybe the universe like

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bends around it. Whatever he picks becomes the wrong thing. That's right. Yeah, I mean,

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you help so many people find the perfect system or the perfect product for them

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that all of the like negative karma comes back around. It's like, you know, you're giving your

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health to other people. Yeah, I don't know. I'm in a mystic mood this evening. Thanks, Dan.

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Couple more. Hello, LL and the D. Any tips or warnings about moving somewhere new for a job?

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I've never done it before and the opportunity might show itself soon.

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I have never done that. I really admire the heck out of people who pick up their whole lives and

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go somewhere new and learn a whole bunch of new things and meet a whole bunch of new people.

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And I've never had the drive or I mean, even like the guts necessarily to do something like that.

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That's super cool. Give yourself credit for being adventurous and give yourself time to

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give it a real shot to work out, I guess is the only thing that I could really offer.

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The last one I've got today has Luke played Pocopia yet. A few months ago, he went into a small

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rant about what he wanted to see in a new Pokemon game and proceeded to basically describe Pocopia.

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Really? I heard it was rated really well.

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I have heard it's rated really well. Emma's been trying to get me to play it. I

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maybe I've like wrote it off on graphics too much. Maybe I should give it a shot. I just

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assumed it was just Animal Crossing but with Pokemon. Am I being too reductive about this?

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It's fun to watch people play. I think so. It's a little more advanced than Animal Crossing.

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Okay. All right. Maybe I've been, I haven't really looked into it much. I just,

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someone described it as Animal Crossing Pokemon to me and I was like, I think it's Animal Crossing Minecraft Pokemon.

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Hmm. Minecraft? Okay. The more interesting.

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Please, it's Minecraft Animal Crossing Pokemon and it's so good.

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The people throwing Minecraft in the description loop there does make it a lot more interesting.

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I saw somebody made an underground dungeon for a Mr. Mime and he is trapped there.

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That seems good. That seems like the proper thing to do.

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Yeah. You can put Epstein in the ground. Oh boy. And on that note, I think that's the end of the show.

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We will see you again next week. Make sure to subscribe to the WAN Show channel because

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we're going to be transitioning over there over the next little bit. So same bad time but like

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different, different channel. Wow. Yeah. See you there. Bye.

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Bye.

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I got to run guys. I got to get to the airport. Finest. Okay. See you. Bye.