{"video_id":"fp_hFDOEwUkWV","title":"The First 10 Minutes of the Linus Torvalds Collab","channel":"FP Exclusives","show":"FP Exclusives","published_at":"2025-11-21T23:36:00.071Z","duration_s":600,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":8.2,"text":"Arguably there can be no perfect Linux PC, but what we can build is the perfect Linux PC for the creator of Linux who","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":13.0,"end_s":15.0,"text":"There can be only","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":21.36,"end_s":26.36,"text":"Or hear me out you guys could just build a PC together. Oh, oh, okay","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":26.36,"end_s":30.44,"text":"That could work that could work for the folks too young to catch the Highlander reference","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":30.44,"end_s":36.48,"text":"The joke is that we are both Linus and this can only end with one of us losing our heads. 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I absolutely need to trust my machine","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"Arguably there can be no perfect Linux PC, but what we can build is the perfect Linux PC for the creator of Linux who There can be only Or hear me out you guys could just build a PC together. Oh, oh, okay That could work that could work for the folks too young to catch the Highlander reference The joke is that we are both Linus and this can only end with one of us losing our heads. My mind is blown So maybe that counts guys when I shot my shot asking the Original tech Linus to come and do a collab with us. I had no idea what he'd say I mean he's kind of a big deal known for minor contributions to modern technology like get and the Linux kernel But he's here The granddaddy of the operating systems that power everything from the Android phone in your hand to data centers around the world to more Recently your new gaming PC all thanks to the incredible work of open-source developers and corporate sponsors like valve And I get to build a computer with them and ask them some of your questions And you think I'm the awkward one. Sorry look, I know that fan girling does make you a little bit uncomfortable Yes, but you are here right now in my studio and this is so cool So I'll tell you what sure if you could just quickly sign my copy of this and then I'll settle down. I promise, okay He made it out to fake Linus From the real one this is officially more valuable to me than this message from our sponsor You Haven't written anything more recent autobiographically, so I went with this and the Wikipedia page So that's about yeah, that's fine I mean this was literally what we talked about earlier that I'll do anything once like right come here I really enjoyed it. Okay. No, I enjoyed the writing part I do want to point out the David Diamond part I actually wanted him to have the same font sizes my name. Oh really the publisher said no they were right It was very much a collab He made that very clear in the parts that the italicized parts that are kind of his version of the telling of the story But I really enjoyed this and I'm looking forward to hopefully Asking you questions that are not thoroughly covered by your own autobiographical works, but from 25 years ago I was gonna ask you that is one of my questions is Do you feel as detached from what you wrote then as I might be from something that I wrote when I was 19? I actually don't remember what I wrote as much as I remember the process of writing it because that was that was literally Why I ended up doing it because I was like this could be interesting and we did all these things With David together and and we made the whole writing experience literally a process So I remembered that much more than I remember what I actually wrote. Oh, okay So then you might have forgotten the meaning of life for instance. Oh, yeah, because that's in there. That's in there Yeah, it's entertainment by the way. Yeah, and and and sex is a perfect example It started for survival. Yeah, and then it became for a society And then also entertainment say yeah the entertainment part. No, you were quite explicit in both meanings. Okay, anything once anything once, right? We're not done yet. So you still have to do more When you say Linus just to clarify say false Linus or something fake Linus. Yeah today I can live with that now you did an interview with ZD net a number of years back about your daily driver Computer which you built yourself and we actually replicated that build. What did you think of our video? Oh the one I never saw yeah Yeah, sorry, I knew that was gonna happen. And so the next thing I was gonna ask you is what about this video? Are you going to watch this video? I probably won't because I will be feeling way too self-conscious to to actually watch it But I might have to just because I will probably get emailed comments And then I will have to wonder about the comments and I love that comments to you our email It's the only media I use yeah, I don't do I don't do the whole social media thing So it's text for my family or email for everybody else right so I can text you You actually can't text me. Oh That's actually pretty cool. So you know what even though I am not one of the couple of dozen Torvalds's on the planet I also have a made-up last name So my mom broke from her family Changed her name and then got my dad to agree to use her name for me So I'm also Linus with also a last name with no Genealogy whatsoever attached to it, which I thought was a weird thing for us to have a strange yeah I mean there's there's literally maybe 20 Torvalds's in the whole world because yeah My grandfather made that name up for very similar reasons. This is so much fun. You are Actually doing amazing It's nothing like that night that you barely slept before your first major speaking engagement right you really did read the book Of course good on you What do you think I would fake it? I don't know Shame shame shame on people who collaborate with people and don't actually read their book ahead of time Well, I didn't watch your videos. So that's fine. I Am the beta Linus today, so I fully accept that that's going to be what happens What else is gonna happen is we are actually going to build a computer at some point here And if you watched our last video, that's fine You didn't but if you have your computer then this may be familiar to you We are starting with an AMD threadripper this time a 99 60x This is a 24 core 48 thread CPU that I imagine is going to absolutely rip it up for writing emails It's not the only thing I do but I do spend a lot of time actually reading emails more than writing them because You can fit so much email in this bad boy But of course you do have some high performance demanding needs like say for example Yeah, I do compile the kernel a lot So it's part of my test requirements that When I merge other people's code because I don't code myself very much anymore One of the things I do between every single merge is compile the whole kernel with every module I can and that's where you want something fairly powerful And I mean, I'm sure you know NVIDIA is probably working on a way to make code compilation GPU accelerated, but is CPUs still the way to go? Yeah, and I can use as many cores as they can give me Why did we cheap out on him? Oh because I also I actually I mean people ask me what I want And I was like I don't want the crazy high-end because I want it to be quiet! and reliable and not like Insane in any particular direction. So you know what we actually take a very similar approach with our editing workstations The you know the writers or whatever they can play around with the latest generation stuff. They're always One step down because I just want it to work I think I've never I've always wanted to have something that just is Reliable and that's to me. I mean that comes first. It needs to be something I can Trust and work with and then within that envelope. It needs to perform well and not be crazy Bleeding edge and he's letting me build it Yeah, that may be Let's see. I'm having way too much fun today. This is like the best day. I've had in the office in Like a very long time seriously, okay. I'm sorry. I said I would stop I'm okay. I'm done I'm done choosing a motherboard for Linux is pretty straightforward You want all of the usual things you want out of a motherboard nice robust cooling good power delivery All the IO that you want But of course you want to make sure that all of the onboard components are supported by Linux One of the big things that we looked for in a platform for you was support for ECC memory as well Yeah, can you talk a little bit about why that's so important? I don't understand why people don't require ECC in their machines because being able to trust your machine is like The number one thing and without ECC your memory will go bad It's not a question of when it's or it is a question of when I mean it just might take a few years So when I built the machine you apparently built the video Shut up video around that was Maybe five years ago. I forget it was during the COVID Availability night. Yeah, so I could not get ECC and I said whatever I'll get reasonable RAM and It worked fine. It worked fine for a couple of years and then two years goes by and I Starts seeing oopses. I start seeing Segmentation violations. I'm obviously doing this on Modern Linux kernel that is being developed right now and my first reaction is oh, no, we have a bug and I spent days on Trying to figure out what the bug was until I just realized no it wasn't a bug at all It was my machine was not reliable So for you, this is not a question of you know, I have to reboot my system because my game crashed All right, this is a question of I am working on software that millions of people around the world rely on I Need to know right. I absolutely need to trust my machine"}