WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.680 Jonathan. Yes. Welcome to reacting to your first appearance at LMG. 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:12.000 How are you doing today? I'm all tired. It was an iPhone event yesterday, so 00:00:13.440 --> 00:00:18.160 that's how it goes. But yes, I have to watch an old video of me. 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:22.800 Yes. Do you watch yourself often? 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:32.960 I hate to admit this, but I do after many months, when the videos are done, 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:38.560 I'll sometimes go on a binge of my own content. But I'm so detached from it. I go like, wow, 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:44.320 this is great. This is some great stuff. We made this. Oh wait, it was me the whole time. 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:50.720 So we'll see. But there are some videos I like more than others, so I tend to avoid the videos I 00:00:50.720 --> 00:00:56.160 don't like. And I tend to watch the ones I really like. And so that's why the view counts are so 00:00:56.160 --> 00:01:03.360 high on some. So as far as I know, your first on-screen appearance with LMG is your first 00:01:03.360 --> 00:01:11.040 Mac Address video. Is that correct? Yeah. How much do you remember? Probably most of it. 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:17.440 It was a notable experience. I don't know how we set on this idea of being my first video, 00:01:17.440 --> 00:01:24.000 which was about password managers. Other than, I think I read a story about kind of some risks with 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:31.200 iCloud keychain. And so I thought, oh, and then they had also created an extension for 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:34.480 Chrome so PC users could use it. So it was becoming a little more universal. So I was like, 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:37.680 I guess there's something here. And it was like the first video. So I just wrote about it. But 00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:44.560 for me, what the big challenge was, was how do I make something as boring and abstract 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:52.800 as passwords visually interesting? And that's where this whole motif comes in. 00:01:52.800 --> 00:02:00.000 Let's let's hit play. Oh my god. Let's see how you did. I am ready. Oh my god. I literally am 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:05.760 like feeling nervous. There's always this feeling you get before review videos that is just like 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:10.000 because I have to watch myself and I'm having that exact feeling right now. 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:16.080 So many passwords. Look at them fall. Oh my god, the video. 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:24.400 In the summer of 2020, I read about a Brazilian man whose iPhone was stolen right out of his hand. 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:31.840 Despite his best efforts to lock it up, he still lost over $30,000 because once the thieves easily 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:37.520 bypassed his six digit passcode, this is good stuff. Wow, look at that profile picture on the 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:46.480 wall. It's still my profile picture. I just want to say that whole story about the like 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:54.960 dude's thing got stolen. They got into his iCloud. Money is stolen. That was originally reported in 00:02:54.960 --> 00:03:00.800 2020. Joanna Stern at the Wall Street Journal did a big report and video about the same issue 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:05.360 because it was happening to people in New York like two years later. It was even in the last couple 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:10.800 months. And so like still kind of a problem. If you're saving any passwords on your iPhone, 00:03:11.440 --> 00:03:16.560 maybe get an alphanumeric passcode, which is annoying, but it'll be much better than just 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:20.720 numbers. Even then, people are still spying on you and will still steal your phone. So I don't 00:03:20.720 --> 00:03:24.000 know what else to say. I think there's a way to fix that, but I don't remember. 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:31.200 Do you want some other trivia about Mac Address? Yeah, it's cool. So the logo here, 00:03:31.200 --> 00:03:35.440 we were thinking about do we create a graphic intro because LTT I guess had a graphic intro at 00:03:35.440 --> 00:03:39.200 the time. It was really long with a theme song and like it's a very television show thing. 00:03:39.200 --> 00:03:44.560 HBO has the longest intro songs, by the way. They're like two minutes long every single episode, 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:49.200 nevertheless. But obviously retention goes down because he wants to watch the same thing over 00:03:49.200 --> 00:03:55.200 and over again. So we decided just pop the logo up. You know, have it edit it with the music. Maybe 00:03:55.200 --> 00:03:59.200 you can do a cool effect, you know, practical effect or something like that. We kind of, 00:03:59.200 --> 00:04:05.360 we try to come up with interesting ways of doing it, but the logo is sort of like, it's punctuation. Like the intro's over and we're going to go in the body of the video. So 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:11.280 hopefully you want to stick around. Study by NordPass, the average internet user has over 100 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:17.600 user... Oh yeah, I'm so glad we got that confetti working. Is that literally someone throwing the 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.960 confetti? Yeah, I don't remember how. I guess we had someone, I think we even had someone on a ladder 00:04:20.960 --> 00:04:25.920 for that. I actually still have all those cutouts like in a Ziploc bag at my desk. I should have 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:33.440 brought them. Oh, I don't. Sorry. This was a good idea. 00:04:38.960 --> 00:04:42.560 Oh, those are good sound effects. Wow, this is, this is pretty good. 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:51.520 Were you nervous going into your first video? Oh yeah, holy moly. I had a lot of imposter syndrome, 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:55.600 um, especially like covering tech because I never really did it before. I mean, I'd 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:58.880 followed tech and all that sort of stuff, but I was like, now I'm covering it and people have 00:04:58.880 --> 00:05:04.960 to listen to me. Like who cares? Um, so there was a lot of that. And I was very anxious. That's an 00:05:04.960 --> 00:05:10.720 anxious man there. I mean, there's still an anxious man here, but a lot more anxious back then. 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:15.600 Remember over 100 strings of passwords. Oh, this is great. 00:05:16.400 --> 00:05:19.680 Oh man. Wow. 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:29.920 I love the idea of the paper cutout. Yeah, I was, I was pretty happy to come up with it. I was, 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:33.920 because I was like, oh no, like how, what do you do about passwords, right? Like how are you gonna, 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:40.320 they're so just stupid and they're everywhere. It's like, this idea of like making it physical and 00:05:40.320 --> 00:05:44.800 then showing just how many stupid passwords you have to deal with and how to deal with a pile 00:05:44.880 --> 00:05:50.160 of passwords. Cause it's kind of like what it is. Um, was really satisfying. Um, so there, but there 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:56.320 was like a lot of like maneuvering around to like make it work. And we were kind of shooting it. 00:05:56.320 --> 00:06:00.480 We tried a little bit more, I guess, in an LCT style back then where I'm reading a teleprompter 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:05.120 and like, I kind of was like anchored at this desk. So it was a bit more challenging to come 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:09.520 up with like cut-ins and make sure those worked. And then, you know, we were still using the, 00:06:09.520 --> 00:06:13.440 the white void back then and the white void is pretty limiting as well. So you can't really like 00:06:13.440 --> 00:06:18.320 move the camera alongside or unless you want to move the white void or move this. There's a lot 00:06:18.320 --> 00:06:25.680 going on there. Oh, Sarah, Sarah designed those devices, by the way. I had her, she just did the 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:36.800 outlines and printed them out. Oh, nice. Even though it's your first video, you come off as 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:41.760 pretty, pretty confident on screen. But it's not my first video. It's not my first time hosting. 00:06:41.760 --> 00:06:49.840 Exactly. Like I hosted Go Fraser Valley and Go Williams Lake and way before that. And if you 00:06:49.840 --> 00:06:56.800 really want, I might be able to dig up some old really embarrassing stuff. Everyone got mad at me 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:02.000 for not mentioning Bitwarden, which I didn't know about at the time. That's one of the things I'd 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:05.280 frightened a bit when I'm, when you're writing a script for a video, it's like, 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:09.280 there's that one thing that's actually really good, but nobody, it's not really commonly known. 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:15.200 And you're like, how do you, how do you know? So anyway, I use Bitwarden. So there's that as well. 00:07:15.200 --> 00:07:21.680 I was using LastPass at the time, but as we know, LastPass kind of got private equities. 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:26.720 One as our one password, dash lane, and LastPass. These are kind of the main ones. 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:32.400 Services are quite a bit more fully featured than iCloud Keychain. They work on all the platforms 00:07:32.400 --> 00:07:36.960 and with all the browsers and individual credentials can be shared with others. 00:07:39.760 --> 00:07:47.360 But critically, that's not how iCloud Keychain works. Your Keychain Master password is the same 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:53.280 as your device's password. So the weak password. My like a little magician like hand movement there. 00:07:53.280 --> 00:07:58.880 Using for years on your MacBook. If you're using your iPhone or iPad with a six digit numeric 00:07:58.880 --> 00:08:03.600 passcode, you should probably consider an alphanumeric password like you use on your computer. 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:05.120 If you're using a four digit passcode. 00:08:07.760 --> 00:08:14.560 I love that the the R is taking it. I literally wrote GM laptop or and that's what I said, 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:18.240 but we edited the GM out. So that's why it sounds a little bit when we cut it out. 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:24.080 I thought it was a funny joke, but it only works on Chrome and there are hoops. 00:08:24.080 --> 00:08:29.360 And then every time you freshly open Chrome, you have to input a two factor code that you get 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:33.920 from the same device. I know that. What was going on there? Get too excited. It doesn't work on Chrome 00:08:33.920 --> 00:08:41.920 for Mac. It doesn't work on Chrome for Mac, but I don't know why I have that point in there, 00:08:41.920 --> 00:08:47.680 because the iCloud Keychain passwords would just show up on Mac all over the operating system. 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:55.280 I personally struggled with whether or not to use iCloud Keychain. Where most people are more, the other people are more chatty during this, 00:08:55.280 --> 00:08:58.960 during their videos. I feel like I'm just so engaged with that making. I have nothing to say. 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.880 As a free option, iCloud Keychain is now the best of the bunch, 00:09:02.880 --> 00:09:06.400 but if you care about maximum security, flexibility, and features, 00:09:06.400 --> 00:09:08.880 paying for a password manager might be the better option. 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:13.520 I think you left a pinned comment on it too, right? I think we did, yeah. 00:09:13.520 --> 00:09:19.920 Saying you're going to look into bit hoarding. I should uh, thank you for attending this Mac Address. Passwords are certainly a big thing. 00:09:19.920 --> 00:09:23.040 Whoa, it's recommending our latest video. With the worst password you use. 00:09:23.040 --> 00:09:26.560 I just. Did you watch this video? I have not yet. 00:09:26.560 --> 00:09:30.720 So what are your thoughts on it? Oh, you mean your first video? 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:34.320 Yeah. Oh, I've seen your first video. Dennis, Dennis. 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:36.560 Let me see your t-shirt. 00:09:39.040 --> 00:09:40.480 Oh, never mind. Hi. 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.840 Dennis, I like you. Dennis is a great name to shout. 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:50.400 Dennis. Okay, hold on a minute. 00:09:50.400 --> 00:09:54.240 Yeah. Probably get on updating some of my older passwords. 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.560 Thank you for attending this Mac Address. Passwords are certainly a big pain. 00:09:58.560 --> 00:10:02.560 Comment. So in the thanks for attending this Mac Address, I thought I was so clever. 00:10:02.560 --> 00:10:07.920 And now I've been doing this weird thanks for something Mac Address since then. 00:10:07.920 --> 00:10:12.080 And I don't know if it's tired or not. Comment below. 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:19.120 But I just keep doing it. So it was fun to like play on the word, what is it, what address are we talking about? 00:10:19.920 --> 00:10:24.880 Attending this Mac Address is a good way of showing what we're trying to do. 00:10:24.880 --> 00:10:29.200 And then it went crazy. Comment below with the worst password you use. I just, please don't do that. 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:34.240 You can comment about other things, however. And if you learned something, go ahead and give me a like and subscribe. 00:10:35.520 --> 00:10:38.480 Thank you. Oh, fun. That's funny. 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:42.000 Really playing with the paper things. That's great. That was great. 00:10:42.880 --> 00:10:47.760 Wow. Very, not a very colorful video, but I tried my best 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:53.680 with the visuals. I mean, it was a seeded A-roll, but you made it fun with the cutouts. 00:10:53.680 --> 00:10:56.640 Yeah, I think that was the best we could do for a video about passwords. 00:10:58.400 --> 00:11:02.800 So let's talk a little bit about, I guess, ideation. 00:11:02.800 --> 00:11:09.600 Like coming into your first Mac Address video, was that your first idea? 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:16.240 Or did you have a... It was, well, okay. So like I obviously didn't, I didn't host and post anything during probation. 00:11:17.760 --> 00:11:22.320 So there were a lot of ideas ruminating that I was kind of starting production on and we 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.000 spent that time kind of figuring out what the channel was and like designing the logo and all 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:31.520 that sort of stuff. So I don't, I genuinely don't remember why we chose that one to be the first one, 00:11:31.520 --> 00:11:36.080 other than I think it was like pretty straight, excuse me, pretty straightforward to put together. 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:39.360 And then there were other videos that I was kind of chipping away on that like came out, 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:42.800 came out later. And like, I guess in terms of figuring out the format, 00:11:45.520 --> 00:11:49.280 like I knew what I wanted to do. There's like aspects of it where I'm like, oh, this is pretty great. 00:11:49.280 --> 00:11:53.200 I wonder if this is better than what I do now. 00:11:55.360 --> 00:12:01.200 Or if there's aspects to it like that were better back then than they are now. I don't know. Most of the time people comment like, he's just getting better and better. 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:04.640 And I'm like, oh, okay. So I guess that's a good thing. But like things just change over time. 00:12:04.640 --> 00:12:08.160 You get sort, you like, I guess you get more comfortable in front of the camera. 00:12:08.880 --> 00:12:12.960 Or you start kind of just talking in a different way because of the way you should produce it. 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:17.440 Like, I don't know. Things just kind of morphed, morph since then. And so I was really unsure. 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:22.480 I was unsure how things were going to go and how things are going to fit in here 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:31.200 and how all that stuff is going to come together. And so that was just sort of like my best interpretation of what to do. 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:39.600 So, but it was, for me, it's always like trying to take the challenge of like, how do you 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:44.560 how do you solve a visual problem? 00:12:45.040 --> 00:12:48.560 Something very abstract and boring and esoteric as passwords. 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:52.880 And make that visually interesting. Oh, let's make it physical. 00:12:52.880 --> 00:13:00.160 You know, it's a physical medium. It's an action medium. Let's make, we can actually represent what we're trying to say in that regard. 00:13:00.160 --> 00:13:03.760 I haven't really done that since, I don't think. 00:13:05.680 --> 00:13:09.680 I'm trying to think. No, but I have tried to do other things. 00:13:09.760 --> 00:13:13.120 Like I like in the headphones videos, trying to like really, you know, 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:17.600 we add the sound design of the beeps and bloops from the AirPods so that you can sort of, 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:24.320 to give you a sense of what it would be like if you were wearing them. So, you know, that, I guess that spirit still remains, but I haven't done anything physical. 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:31.680 You know, but passwords may be pretty straightforward in that case. And like there wasn't an, there's, I mean, there's still is an annoyance of passwords, 00:13:31.680 --> 00:13:33.760 which helps, helped me want to explain it better. 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:43.040 What would you say was one of the biggest difficulties during that shoot or the production 00:13:43.040 --> 00:13:43.600 of that video? 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:51.040 Oh, well, first off, like it's getting, ever getting, figuring out how to work with everyone 00:13:51.040 --> 00:13:55.520 here. The other thing was because of the white boy trying to like get those cut-ins and those 00:13:55.520 --> 00:14:01.120 sequences. And then also that's, that's read to teleprompter that video, right? 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.920 So, I find when I do any videos where I'm hosting to the teleprompter, my eyes are like 00:14:05.920 --> 00:14:10.640 glued on the camera. And so it becomes very hard to like do things because if I look down, 00:14:10.640 --> 00:14:14.800 I'll like lose track of where I am. Or if you're controlling the teleprompter yourself, 00:14:15.520 --> 00:14:18.640 you know, you'll have this thing in your hands, you only get one hand. So like, 00:14:18.640 --> 00:14:23.280 you're sort of like really limited in movement. You're kind of just like, you're locked in place. 00:14:23.280 --> 00:14:32.480 And so it was challenging trying to balance that with the action I wanted to do and needed to do 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:35.680 and then how to get those shots to cut in together. It was very kind of like 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.560 a different way of thinking about how to shoot things kind of from what people are used to 00:14:40.560 --> 00:14:45.280 here and like, and then also from what I was used to. And so it was kind of like, 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:53.120 it was, I think there was a, it, it like, it was just kind of, it's a shoot all the A-roll and 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:58.400 then we had to like remember how we did the action to do the cut in B-roll again. And then like, 00:14:58.400 --> 00:15:02.080 and then I think we did a top down and we had to like reenact that and kind of hope it's sort of 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:08.160 like all the movement goes together because it is kind of a seamless stream of thought. And the, 00:15:08.160 --> 00:15:14.000 and there's not much like visually different to cut away, to cut to or away from that'll like, 00:15:14.800 --> 00:15:19.680 doesn't need that visual continuity. So I remember being, I remember kind of struggling to make sure 00:15:19.680 --> 00:15:24.160 that that all kind of worked. And then obviously with the limit, limitations of the white void, 00:15:24.160 --> 00:15:27.760 you can't just like move the camera freely. You kind of have to like prepare for that or you're 00:15:27.760 --> 00:15:32.640 kind of really constrained in like where you're kind of angle in your field of view. And I was 00:15:32.640 --> 00:15:36.640 always struggled with the, with the white void with that. If I had to do anything physical or 00:15:36.640 --> 00:15:41.360 visual in the white void, if it was more than just me sitting down, it was kind of almost impossible. 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:46.640 Is that, is that part of the reason you tend to prefer outdoor shoots these days? 00:15:49.040 --> 00:15:53.520 Yes, they're much easier in terms of like doing, getting action, 00:15:54.880 --> 00:16:00.080 getting B-roll. You don't have to set up lights and move things around. It's just like the light 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.520 you have, the light you have is the light you have, the space you have is the space you have. 00:16:03.520 --> 00:16:07.840 You can move to different places. You can literally move the camera around. It'll look completely 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:15.840 different. It's, and then it's just nice. It's, it looks nice. It's, it feels a lot more airy. 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:21.840 Yeah. I had this crazy idea with the white void that was like, the white void was sort of like, 00:16:22.560 --> 00:16:26.240 I thought maybe it'd be funny, but I think it was just going to be way too much work. 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:30.800 I thought it would be really funny that like I, I like live in the white void. And then when I, 00:16:30.800 --> 00:16:35.280 when I leave, I go out in the real world outside and stuff like that. And the transition would be 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:40.240 like, it would be me filming in the kind of very controlled white void. 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:44.320 And then to like transition out to the real world to like a white shot of like a cheap white void 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:48.880 just set up and in the location where I am and I just leave it. So it's like, it's like some sort of 00:16:48.880 --> 00:16:53.760 like weird kind of teleportation thing. I thought that would be really fun to see and do, but 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.920 it, it was, it seemed like too much work in my mind because they have to set it up and like, 00:16:59.920 --> 00:17:05.120 it just was not, it'd be, it'd be a cool sort of kind of gag, but, and I thought, oh, we'll do it 00:17:05.120 --> 00:17:11.520 in everything, but like, no, no. I guess if we pivot back to you joining LMG, 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:18.080 how did all that happen? How'd you get here? What's your, I just applied for a job. 00:17:19.360 --> 00:17:23.360 Yeah. I think I just caught some like, when show clipping like we're hiring and I was like, 00:17:23.360 --> 00:17:29.360 okay, and I was living in Winnipeg at the time. And so I, I like clicked on it and it was like, 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:37.600 writer, host, Mac channel, Apple channel. And I was like, huh. And I'd always known about LMG 00:17:37.600 --> 00:17:44.080 and like, I grew up in this area and I'd always watched the videos and I'd be like, they're nearby. I couldn't really pinpoint where they were, but like, I knew it was like 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:49.120 nearby. So I thought, oh, you know, like that would be cool because, you know, my social life 00:17:49.120 --> 00:17:53.200 and family life, everyone's around here. So working there would work out really well. And, 00:17:53.200 --> 00:18:01.760 but I just am not a gamer. I'm not an RGB gamer, right? So to work, to write for the LTT channel 00:18:01.760 --> 00:18:06.560 was going to, I knew it wasn't going to be really the right fit. I was like, maybe I could cover 00:18:06.560 --> 00:18:10.000 Apple I'd thought before, but I don't know if that's something they wanted. And then sure enough, 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:14.080 it was something they wanted. So I just was like, I was like, oh, I guess I have to apply because 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:20.560 there's very few jobs, postings where I'm like, I could do that. So I was like, oh, fine. So I 00:18:20.560 --> 00:18:27.200 basically just had to apply and hearing. And what's your, what was your background before this? 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:32.240 Like, what kind of stuff do you come from? So I went to school for broadcast journalism 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:40.720 at BCIT. And then after that, I started working for Shaw TV, which is like our cable system. They 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:47.200 got acquired by Rogers. It's horrible. But anyway, they have this community television, 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:53.440 I guess initiative regulation fulfillment, where they have to like enable community television, 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:59.200 basically YouTube before YouTube existed, where anyone could, anyone could come to us at Shaw TV 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:04.320 and be like, I want to make a show. And we would go, great, here's a camera. And here's how to use it. 00:19:04.320 --> 00:19:10.400 And, and then once they made the show, we would broadcast it to the community on the channel. 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:15.440 So, but we also had like staff produce stuff and that sort of thing. So yeah, I basically did that 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:23.040 and I was working there on and off for, for maybe seven years or something like that. 00:19:23.040 --> 00:19:28.640 Oh, wow. Oh, maybe almost. Yeah, I was like eight years, eight years, something like that. 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:33.120 I got to hone my skills in everything. I started off in Williams Lake full time, 00:19:33.120 --> 00:19:37.760 and I was the only producer there. So I had to shoot and edit and find and do the whole, 00:19:37.760 --> 00:19:44.720 the whole gamut, including host the show, all on my own up in Williams Lake. And so you learn a lot. 00:19:45.760 --> 00:19:54.080 Yeah. Going from your first, first Mac Address video to right now. Yeah. How would you say your 00:19:54.080 --> 00:20:05.520 content has transformed? So I don't know. I mean, I guess it has evolved. Certainly, 00:20:08.560 --> 00:20:14.640 you know, energy levels change and things change. And so I think there was like a very 00:20:15.760 --> 00:20:19.760 I think things are a little more maybe looser now than they were at the beginning. 00:20:20.320 --> 00:20:24.800 And then I'm talking literally like cameras handheld versus on tripod or something like that. 00:20:26.320 --> 00:20:31.840 I think I've tried to be very consistent. I think we tried some really ambitious stuff last year. 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:37.680 And this year's maybe been a bit more reserved, perhaps, or been in admissions in different, 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:42.960 in different areas. So I mean, I guess the example would be like when we brought the desktop 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:48.720 to the beach. That was ambitious visually. Whereas I don't really have anything quite 00:20:49.520 --> 00:20:52.960 similar to that now. I don't know. I mean, I feel like the viewers, 00:20:54.320 --> 00:20:58.160 the viewers would know better. But yeah, it's basically just been like, 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:01.200 I've tried to be pretty consistent at least, you know. 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:08.960 Cool. So you had some stuff you'd like to show us. Well, okay. Do we want to do do you want to count broadcast school or 00:21:09.360 --> 00:21:13.440 Oh my God. Okay. This is the first episode of go Williams Lake. 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:20.400 I can't wait. No, that's that's you. It's me. 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:29.520 That's Williams Lake. I had a good time there, by the way, but just really this is so embarrassing. 00:21:29.520 --> 00:21:40.560 Oh, wow. How old were you in this 20? It was 11 years ago. Yeah, it's 24. 00:21:41.280 --> 00:21:46.000 That's shitty phone. Wow. I'm dying. 00:21:46.800 --> 00:21:50.400 It's a reformat of our community magazine show. And for this 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:58.000 At this video, this first story was pretty fun. 00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:08.720 So sorry, what was this? Go Williams Lake. It was like the community interest shows. I called it. 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:16.560 Okay. And it was like, what are you talking about? Good memories. Like this is what people are doing in your community. 00:22:16.560 --> 00:22:18.560 Like, so this story is about 00:22:22.080 --> 00:22:24.640 Things to do at Williams Lake. Just things people are doing it. 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:38.240 Oh my God. Willie's puddle. That's insane. It's actually more like a lake, a big imposing lake. 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:42.400 The water can be scary, you know, you have to 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:50.720 Oh man, those kids are great. They realize that it's only water, right? And I think slowly taking about three days, 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:56.560 but they've realized it's only water and they've all fallen in once or twice and seem to like it. 00:23:01.040 --> 00:23:06.000 So yeah, that's that was what I was doing. I was playing with a split screen thing. 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:09.200 When I was working in Go Williams Lake, I was like, oh, I'm going to challenge myself to come up 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:12.000 with some sort of visually interesting, I guess it's a similar story, but 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:18.480 Oh, so you edited these as well? Yeah, I edited this. So I was trying this split screen thing that I got from a music video or 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:25.280 inspired from a music video. My audio mixing, everyone criticized, but I love music. So 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:29.760 it was quite loud. Would you have done a sailing class like this? Did you? 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:37.120 No, I was going crazy with this split screen thing. Oh, well, I'm fun. 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:39.280 No, it's interesting to see that. 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:50.960 Oh, a little spin on the That is the graphics package. I think you're supposed to have a sound effect every time you used it, 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:54.960 but it was like not part of the like template. So you'd have to manually add it in and you 00:23:54.960 --> 00:24:01.520 could easily forget. Yeah, let's shoot this in 16. I mean, this is honestly a well made video. 00:24:01.520 --> 00:24:05.920 Oh, thank you. Oh, yeah, he's brought out the GoPro. 00:24:07.520 --> 00:24:10.960 By no means amateur looking. A little overexposed here. Pardon? 00:24:11.520 --> 00:24:14.960 By no means does it like give off like amateur vibes. No, no, yeah. 00:24:15.760 --> 00:24:18.000 There you go, guys. This is why Macadras looks so good. 00:24:18.800 --> 00:24:23.520 That was a good time. Oh man, the thought process, I guess, hasn't really changed much 00:24:23.520 --> 00:24:27.520 since I started, which I guess is I've been consistent. That's nice. 00:24:28.800 --> 00:24:33.040 I'm sure I can speak on behalf of most of our audience when I say 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:39.120 Macadras videos look really nice. Thank you. But to everyone else's credit, 00:24:39.120 --> 00:24:42.720 everyone else is bringing some amazing stuff too. Absolutely. 00:24:43.360 --> 00:24:48.240 What's one thing you'd like to see happen on Macadras in the near future? 00:24:49.040 --> 00:24:55.680 Well, just go crazy. I guess there's this like goal to like go to the Annapolis event. I don't 00:24:56.800 --> 00:25:02.640 I, it'd be, it'd be, it'd be like, it'd be gratifying. You know what I mean? Like, but it's, 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:06.960 it's totally fun. I don't, you know, it's not the end of the world. I want it to be very good. 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:11.920 And that's all I care about is like having a good video. And it's like, that's it. 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:18.000 And that's all I've cared about the whole time. So yeah. 00:25:18.080 --> 00:25:21.040 Awesome. Any final words for foot plane? No. 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.400 Subscribe to Macadras? I don't know. They probably, they watch it anyway. So 00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:30.000 they're here. Welcome. Thanks for, thanks for being here. 00:25:31.280 --> 00:25:34.240 Awesome. Thanks, Jonathan. No problem. Thank you. Thank you.