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Oh, hi. Didn't see you there. You must be one of the floaters.

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Oh, you're talking to one of them individually. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's very early. Probably there aren't that many right now.

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Oh, there's a few. Oh, my chat's not loading. I got a refresh page. Oh, there's quite a few. Oh, okay.

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Yeah. You think you're going to catch them? When we're, when it's past five, you think

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one person's going to be here? Hi. I didn't see you all there. There you are.

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Is that better? Are you happy now? Yeah. Yeah, fix it. Sorry. Good. I'll do better next time, Papa.

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It's Friday. Let's go. No. When we were filming, why is Wan late? Yeah. Sammy handed me a thing.

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Why are you telling me about that as if I wasn't there? And on the thing, there was a sticker that said Linus inside, and I was like, what are you trying to say?

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A sticker? What? He has a sticker that looks like Intel inside, but it says Linus inside.

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Okay. So he's not giving it to anyone other than Yvonne, right?

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I'll pay the tariff. Oh, we're going to talk about tariffs today.

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Oh, we're going to talk about tariffs today. We're going to talk about them.

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Big, beautiful tariffs. My friends called me. They said my tariffs are so big.

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They're so big. They're so good. My friend called me. They're the best tariff.

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Tears streaming down his face. Big friend, strong friend. Never seen tariffs this good.

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Yeah, they're just write-offs. It's just more write-offs.

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Yeah, there's a new tariff in town. I can't wait to make so little money that I'm more write-off than man.

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Just write it all off. Please, NX Michigan. We like hockey and maple syrup too.

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Which one's Michigan again?

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That one's over by the Great Lakes, right? They've got a lake.

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No, I know. I'm just teasing them. He's making a joke. I'm teasing them.

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The lake's name after them? Yes, I know. Oh, it actually kills me how hard it is for me to joke about being stupid without people.

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The thing is that Linus also doesn't understand that I'm not being serious.

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I hate you so much. It gets him every time and I love it.

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We held a meeting today in a very interesting, you can't say what it is.

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I know, I know. We had a meeting today in a very interesting location.

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It was cool. It was awesome. Am I allowed to guess what it is?

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No. Not correctly.

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Oh, I see. Okay, your backseat of a car.

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Sort of. Oh, I know where it is.

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Wow, that really didn't take long. Okay, you know what's funny is I totally wasn't trying to go there with it.

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I was just like, where's a weird place to have it?

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It wasn't the backseat. We built a gaming fake taxi.

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No, no. No, no, no, no, no, no.

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No, no. We've decided that adult content does not align with our brand values

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and we will not be making any investments in that area.

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Well, I think you and I have talked about the idea of like a streamer hotel, essentially, right?

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Not like by the hour. What's wrong with you?

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You led into that from adult content.

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What did you expect me to do? At a certain point, you led for that 100%.

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Well, I mean, yeah, it's still adult content, but not like a hotel hotel.

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I was talking to, this may surprise you, but I was talking to Elijah about this.

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Of course you were. And apparently, and this makes sense, a major concern for adult content streamers is doxing

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and like your physical location when you're streaming, right? Okay, I mean, that is true for everyone.

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Yeah, but anyway, you and I had talked in the past about

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like what Sevidus was doing down in Seattle and having like a space that's essentially like,

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that's what I mean by streamer hotel. So like you have basically, you run the infrastructure for the space.

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People rent it by the room. You've got a big fat internet pipe.

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You have some services on site. You do hardware, whether it's through Creator Warehouse or whether it's through

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like your infrastructure team or whatever. You like basically make sure the thing runs slowly.

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You can help with sponsorships and partnerships and creating merch. Smoothly.

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Sorry. You said make sure the thing runs slowly. Smoothly.

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Yeah. Smoothly. And so at some point, there was a conversation that was like, oh, well,

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like, yeah, something like that. The only people that I could think of that for them to have,

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for them to get a lot of value out of a space like that would be like adult content creators

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because then they don't have to worry about doxing when they're live because they would

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just be in this like generic room. You could maintain security for the building and privacy and like all that kind of stuff.

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And stuff like security gets a lot more reasonable when you're effectively splitting

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the cost across a bigger group of people. Yeah, exactly.

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So anyway, anyway, we put together a document over the last little while and I was looking

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at it this week, which is just like every business idea we've ever had.

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Are you sure about it? I'm sure. I haven't had enough time to properly go through all of it, but I have seen,

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I've looked through some of it. Anyway, so that is in the document, but don't worry.

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We've had a conversation recently that basically went, that is not aligned with our brand values.

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It's also a very old idea.

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Back when I think that would have made even more sense. I think it makes a little bit less sense now.

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The idea was streamer hotel. And then the reason we never did it aside from just money is that I couldn't figure out

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who it would make sense for. And then the part that you weren't up to date on was having that conversation with Elijah,

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where he's like, oh yeah, that's like a major concern. And I was like, oh yeah, that, that could align.

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But I have, I'm going to be honest with you. I have no idea how many adult streamers there are like in our area.

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I literally don't know. And it's okay. I don't need to know.

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You do not need to link me to your favorite. In fact, I'm closing float plain chat right now.

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There. Well, you can't post those things in float plain chat so people get banned.

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They would. If they post adult links in float plain chat. Yeah.

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Oh, okay. Good. The system works. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that.

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Okay. And I'm opening float plain chat again. It's safe now. Okay.

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lttstore.com. Stop it.

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Prude. Look, I'm not saying I'm a prude.

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I'm just saying a time and there's a time and place. There's a time and place.

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What are some of our other ideas?

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We should just let the community vote on what we spend money on.

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That couldn't possibly go wrong. It never has.

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Okay. Hear me out. We bring back the coin.

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Drop coin. It only goes down.

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Who is that out there? Jay.

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Basically, this doc is literally every idea that we've ever had about anything,

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no matter how ridiculous.

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I can't hear you, Jake.

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I'm not relaying. Okay.

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So I like actually had to ban some people from that and I am disappointed.

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Typical. Just typical.

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Some people are trying to like catch it with links that looked like adult content

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and then like more than one person post the links that actually were adult content and it's like.

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This is a Christian Minecraft server. Okay. Stop.

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What me or them? Them. Oh. Yeah. No, that was funny.

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It's an older meme. No, it was good. I liked it. Yeah. 100%.

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Look back to his community moderation days. Yeah, it's been a minute.

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What else is in here? Whale lands in here.

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Doing that. I'm stoked. I'm psyched.

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Hey, are you going to attend the practice land? What's that?

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I guess you probably can't tell me. Yeah, I'm good at. Yeah, probably. If I'm like in the country, yeah, I'll make it.

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This guy. This guy. Yeah, we're going to do it. We're going to do a practice like staff only land.

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Yeah, fantastic. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. Oh, I, yeah, I know.

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Yeah, I don't, I still, was there a specific date?

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I remember you guys said that kind of nonchalant in a group meeting.

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And it was the first time I had ever heard of it. And I immediately posted in the infrastructure chat

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that we have been like heads up because none of us knew it was coming.

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They should know. Chases on it. Well, they do now because I told them.

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Okay. Chases on it. Thanks, Luke. Do you remember? Nobody knew.

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Chases on the case. Okay. I was just going to say no.

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Yeah. What else am I looking at? Do bad people know when they're banders at shadow?

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The bands that I just headed out were not shadow.

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Got them. We have both.

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Some of these ideas are like terrible.

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I opened the app Luke side hard. My wife said to me, are you okay?

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My wife is worried about you. No, I'm fine. I don't even know what I sighed to, but I'm fine.

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Look at this one. Kick them off the site. No, they just can't use chat anymore.

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LTX 2026. Heck yeah, dude. Heck yeah, dude.

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I don't know, man. Heck yeah, dude. Oh, what is this?

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I changed this. So the priority matrix has high cost, high value,

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high cost, low value, low cost, low value, and low cost, high value.

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I changed this to high cost, low value. We've literally, it is literally low value.

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It has never made money. It depends on how you measure value. We've done it four times.

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Listen to Luke. All right, we've talked about this.

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If the value was supposed to be community sentiment or creator relationships, then that was an abysmal f***ing failure.

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We thought it was good at the time.

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No, it's not that all line is values is money. It's that when it has no value across the board, it's real tough.

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We were at quite the peak. Very temporarily afterwards.

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Yes, it came back down rather rapidly.

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But within a, you know, a couple of weeks, we were doing real good.

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Grimoire says the charity auction was notable.

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You should do, in 2026, you should do a charity auction of exclusively water blocks.

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I mean, just go, go around and find all the most exotic.

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I still have the one.

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Round two.

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Oh man. You should get a bunch of like CNC companies around the area

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all to make one-off water blocks. Just do an entire charity auction of just random one-off water.

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Each of them smart water blocks that anyone would ever want to buy.

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They all come with a framed email saying not to.

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Oh man. I am auctioning the deal.

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Pray I don't auction.

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Find your topics. No, that's only for when there's a big section of time

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that I just have to sit here and try to figure out how my face is going to be interpreted.

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Yeah.

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Yes. Oh, this is definitely the pre-show, Jake.

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This is too hot for TV. I thought you were still looking at it.

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Do you, do you actually want to upgrade the Wi-Fi in your house?

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I don't know. I think we should have it in our back pocket as a video idea for desperate.

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Should we update the Wi-Fi in Luke's house? But I'd rather do it on a yacht.

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Why not both? I think if we do the yacht, we put the audience one, like the stadium one,

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and then we can just like roll up to like the beach somewhere and just like Wi-Fi.

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That would be kind of not a bad idea. I wonder if it would work. It's kind of a bad idea, but it's a stupid idea.

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If you parked your yacht next to the convention center for LTX and had crazy Wi-Fi on the yacht.

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How am I supposed to get a crazy connection though? The best I could get is like Starlink.

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We could get like 12 Starlinks. That does work.

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Would that be cheaper than paying the stupid convention center fees for internet?

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Yeah. There's a valid business option, not only to host LTX now, but also it is now cheaper to run.

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And I can get you a deal on the yacht. Is there a company that rents Starlink dishes?

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Because like I saw somebody is remote that I don't even remember what it was,

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but they had like 36 Starlink dishes. Because it was like a research thing where they needed throughput,

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but they were in the middle of nowhere and that was the only option.

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Well, the best option. The monthly is not that bad.

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I don't know. Oh man, people want alternatives to Starlink.

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Guys, there's no alternative to Starlink right now. No, that's reasonable.

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That's our next company. 70,000 satellites.

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Linus Tech Tips Aerospace Company.

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No, it's cool. And call it orange origin. Okay, only if my rockets can be even more phallic.

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Yeah, just yeah, that's fine. I want actual balls at the bottom.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Full cock and balls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, is that a bleep thing?

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Cock and balls? No, I don't think so. Who knows? Cognitive behavioral rocket ship.

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Are y'all still chill with Starlink given Elon's everything?

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Look, I think that given how many people have been piling on me

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for being an Elon hater or whatever,

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even though the things that I dislike about him were absolutely red flags that existed before that are only just,

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they're just now obvious to people. When he disbanded Tesla's PR department,

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that told us everything we needed to know about the man. It told us that he doesn't think he's accountable

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and he doesn't need to answer uncomfortable questions. That's what it told us.

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So we knew everything already. People just didn't want to see it, I think is a big part of it.

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However, in spite of my issues with the guy,

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I think he's just an asshole and have been very public about that for a very long time,

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Starlink is a product right now utterly without competition.

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Nothing is even close. It's also like he's extremely public.

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You can tie most companies back to a very small group

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of actual people that actually own them.

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A lot of the people behind those companies are extremely bad people

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that are intending to do extremely bad things and just don't tweet about it.

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So because you're not paying as much attention or it's not forced in front of your face,

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it doesn't mean that there isn't terrible things happening and just a boycotting the people

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that are tweeting about the terrible things they're doing and not boycotting the people

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that aren't tweeting about the terrible things that they are doing.

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I don't think makes it significantly better in my opinion.

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So I said cough, Nestle cough. It's like, yeah, there's tons of examples of this

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and people will- Never forget that Coca-Cola never denied killing those people.

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They just said they didn't do it in America. And no one's asking anyone to stop drinking Coke.

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You tell that story to people and they're like, wow, that's crazy sip.

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I don't know. It's so selective, I find. People's boycotting of these things is so disingenuous.

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But why didn't Linus talk about honey?

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I don't know, man. I don't know.

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It's like if it's relatively convenient for people

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to not do something or boycott something, then they won't do it.

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Dude, there's a story recently. This company that made Disco Elysium,

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I don't remember their name right now, but there's a story that came out recently

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about how a big part of the game's whole thing.

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I haven't played it, so I apologize. You should have. It's great, but you should have hired it.

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So this, no, but this is- Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

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There's a whole story behind that. Story what? Okay, you'll have to catch me up there. He said you should play,

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yeah, Zaum or Zaum or however they're pronounced. They were selling like $160 junkie bags

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that were supposed to look like one of the bags in the game. And maybe if you've played it,

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you can correct me on this because I might say something that's wrong. But part of the game is kind of making fun of people

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that spend a lot of money to look poor. And then they're selling $160 bags that look like junk.

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Oh yeah, okay, that's funny. And someone who used to work there

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is saying that the people that buy this stuff,

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you can name match them with the people that complain about it online.

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Yeah, that makes sense. They have the orders database. He used to work there.

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And he'd say you'd see people on Twitter and stuff raging about this stuff. All it goes against the moral questions of the game

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and all this kind of stuff. And then you see the same name on a purchase order buying the damn thing.

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Yeah. And it's like, it's just an ocean of just spineless people

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just going after the things that are most pushed in their face,

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not the actual horrific problems, and then trying to morally grandstand about it.

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It's exhausting. Sorry. I will. Wow. Tell us how you really feel with this.

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I don't think I've ever seen him this riled up. It's so annoying.

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So you're an apologist? Dude. I'm not an apologist.

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What part of me say he's an asshole? It's not even sort of what's happened. He's an apologist.

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You don't get it. I'm saying the product is utterly without competition

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in the market. There is not a viable alternative to Starlink

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for many people. Many people.

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That is a fact.

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And literally zero point of that is me.

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Elon apologizing. Get off it.

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My goodness.

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Sydney Brokitt says, does not have competition is not the same

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as utterly without equal. I mean, in this case, you're right.

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They're not quite the same thing, but what they are both is true.

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The competition to Starlink, depending on what you need it for,

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is it goes anywhere from impractical

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and overpriced to utterly unusable. That's pretty much the spectrum.

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And look, I don't have a Starlink subscription right now.

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I have at times in the past, we bought Starlink for that video that we did

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and we explored it. We explored putting Starlink on the gaming van,

00:20:29.520 --> 00:20:33.360
but found out that it just didn't really make sense if I wanted any of the,

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I would have had to take off either a quarter or half of the solar panels or whatever.

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But like, yeah, I have.

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And I don't know, I'm sorry. To me, it's been pretty obvious

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that the guy's an asshole for a very, very, very long time.

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Sorry. No.

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I don't know. I don't think you need to be sorry. Okay.

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Okay. Let's continue this conversation. Should I be sorry for buying from Amazon sometimes?

00:21:03.520 --> 00:21:07.760
But this is, this is my whole point. Is like, you have to find your own things.

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I like KitKats. You have to find your own things. I like KitKats.

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I'm sorry. You have to find your own things. This is why like I,

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because like I still don't buy off Amazon. I might give that up at some day.

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I don't know. Honestly, it's getting worse, not better.

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At this point with places like Team U

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and all these other things rising up, it's like,

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which one of these,

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which one of these is like, am I really helping myself?

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You know, I don't know. Am I really helping others? Dude.

00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:48.000
It's very hard not to. I've been not shopping on Amazon for many years. I don't find it that difficult.

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This is such. I find it not particularly convenient. This is such a, oh, I thought

00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:57.760
I thought dead antisocial was talking about me. Where?

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What do you say?

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I don't see it.

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It's pretty recent. My chat's going pretty fast.

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D-E-D.

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Oh.

00:22:21.360 --> 00:22:25.360
Okay, whatever. Basically, you just said he's not an asshole. He's a complete narcissist.

00:22:25.360 --> 00:22:29.200
Nazi piece of s*** always has been. You thought he said, you thought he said, my goodness.

00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:36.480
I also noticed that antisocial said, I should have been transparent about honey.

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I actually have some.

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If you were paying very close attention to the whole honey thing,

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you would know that, here we go.

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So now people are mad that we're not mad enough at Elon?

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Is that how, so people were mad that we were mad at Elon? I don't know.

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And then now people are mad that we're not mad enough at Elon? I don't know.

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I did a new job. I'm trying to track it.

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I'm trying to make sure that I'm like up to speed with what's going on.

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Man, I'm trying to find. Because if you don't like huff his gas enough,

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I guess you don't keep up with all the really little gritty things

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that he does and then you don't know. Let's see if I can find it.

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Hold on. So here's the thing.

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Here it is. I found it.

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When I said, like, yeah, this was like a known thing,

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I knew from hearing from barnacles. Yeah.

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I wasn't a part of content at that time. I didn't know we dropped them.

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I knew about it because people tweeted me about it.

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Because here's the thing.

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No, you're trying to slide it off as him just being an asshole? No, we're not. Original MCW made a video about this four years ago.

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Actually, more like four and a half years ago. Affiliate Marketing MC made a video four years ago with 137,000 views.

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Why didn't I make an expose? Because exposed how the honey app makes money,

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affiliate influencer scam already existed.

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So I heard about it. Same as anybody else.

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Yeah. Yeah, I regret promoting it now that I know.

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But I didn't know. All I knew was when I found out about this.

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Same as everybody else. It is what it is.

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We can only make the best decisions that we can make

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with the information we have at the time we have that information.

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That's it. That's all we can do. So when we found out, we dropped their asses.

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That's it. I know.

00:25:08.320 --> 00:25:11.360
I know some people really, really want it to go deeper than that.

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But I just, I don't have anything for you. I don't have anything for you.

00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.000
It's tough. It's tough, you know?

00:25:23.360 --> 00:25:27.280
Someone said when uploading scrapyard wars that honey sponsored,

00:25:27.280 --> 00:25:30.560
are you going to keep the ads in? Oh, wow.

00:25:30.560 --> 00:25:31.440
That's a good question.

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I think no. One of the things that we did tell Megaleg during the investigation

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questioning thing was that we were going to reevaluate our policies

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around keeping sponsors up.

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We had a conversation about that. That's, so that's been an ongoing thing.

00:25:51.600 --> 00:25:56.080
And we had a conversation about it in exec meeting this week. I don't want to talk out of turn though.

00:25:56.080 --> 00:26:00.080
So we do have an action, a draft action plan,

00:26:00.080 --> 00:26:04.480
but I'm going to wait till Colton and his team have it finalized

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and have like made sure that they're good with it

00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:09.840
before I go ahead and talk about it.

00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:19.920
Yeah. So I'm just going to, just going to wait. Oh, I'm sure you heard about this, but someone linked in flip.

00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:26.080
I lost their name. I apologize. I think it was unique upon me, but I did lose it.

00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:29.120
So I'm not always uncertain that that's right. But what are you talking about?

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Trump delays removal of tariff exemption, also known as de minimis.

00:26:33.280 --> 00:26:37.920
So it's delays though. Delays the removal of the exemption.

00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.560
Sorry. De minimis. Yeah. No, no, I know, but I know that he would, they were removing it.

00:26:42.560 --> 00:26:48.640
He delays the removal of the, sorry. So there is or there isn't a de minimis exemption.

00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.400
Currently, I guess there would still be one. Oh, no, I know. Yeah. Yeah, we'll be talking about that.

00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.680
Don't worry. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. Don't worry. I got you. I was making sure. I got you.

00:26:57.280 --> 00:27:03.360
I got you, man. Yeah, guys, don't worry. We've been, we've been following that very closely.

00:27:03.360 --> 00:27:06.800
Rather close. I just didn't know if you had specifically talked about, okay.

00:27:06.800 --> 00:27:09.840
I've been getting briefings like multiple times a day as the situation,

00:27:09.840 --> 00:27:13.200
whether I want them or not, people keep messaging me and like.

00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.240
I mean, it's a, it's a really big deal. Jeff, I'm going to stop.

00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:20.080
I'm like, okay, sure. Yeah, I guess I'll make that.

00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:28.000
You know what? I got to be honest with you. Out of everyone on the team, I feel like even though I actually

00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:35.360
have the most at stake with all of this, I, I feel the most chill about it.

00:27:37.040 --> 00:27:40.720
Like, do you want me to respond to this? This isn't our first rodeo.

00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:50.560
He goes like this. And at the end of the day, like the American people are going to actually lose their

00:27:50.560 --> 00:27:54.640
shit if their crap from Temu gets more expensive.

00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.840
So do you want me to respond to this?

00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:03.840
You can respond to whatever you want to free country. If everyone here loses their jobs, it's horrible.

00:28:03.840 --> 00:28:06.320
Yeah, but that's, that's not, that we're not,

00:28:07.040 --> 00:28:10.000
even if all the tariffs go into place though, that's not an outcome though,

00:28:10.560 --> 00:28:14.640
which I know, and which the people talking to me about it know.

00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.240
Like these are people at a high enough level. They know what the finances are. We'll be fine.

00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:21.920
Mostly the company don't. That's fair, but none of those people are the ones raising it with me.

00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:27.360
Okay. So I'm saying out of all the people that I'm talking to about it, who are savvy enough.

00:28:27.360 --> 00:28:32.160
I've had to reassure people on my teams about that. What, that like tariffs aren't going to sink us?

00:28:32.800 --> 00:28:38.080
How long does this company have to exist and be responsibly managed before people

00:28:38.080 --> 00:28:42.480
will believe me when I say? Well, this is pretty dramatic. Like this is a big, it's a big impact.

00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:48.560
August 2023 was a big impact. This is an inconvenience.

00:28:48.560 --> 00:28:54.960
No, it's a big impact. It's just a different big impact. We'll be fine. Yeah, I know, I know, I'm just saying, it's still a big impact.

00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:58.320
Yeah, but we'll, we'll solve it. I know. Like that's the thing. You know what?

00:28:58.320 --> 00:29:04.320
I remember having. I'm not that freaked out about it. I remember having this conversation with Chris Perilla back in the day.

00:29:05.040 --> 00:29:10.160
Where I, because you remember, you know, 10 years ago, I would always be freaking out about

00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:14.080
what if YouTube goes away or what if our channel gets deleted or what if this?

00:29:14.080 --> 00:29:19.600
What if that? What if we got to start over? Mitigation strategies, diversification, right?

00:29:19.600 --> 00:29:25.680
Like I was, I was, I was, I was. A lot of stuff we did then was good. It was good, but it was like, it was like, it was out of fear.

00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:30.960
Yeah. It wasn't out of prudent planning and maybe it was prudent to be fearful,

00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:35.440
but the point is just that it was motivated by, by existential terror.

00:29:36.320 --> 00:29:42.720
You know? And he said to me, he's like, look, platforms come, platforms go.

00:29:43.840 --> 00:29:47.920
I've been through it. Eventually you just kind of get numb to it.

00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.480
And I think I'm at that stage.

00:29:51.040 --> 00:29:55.600
Yeah. YouTube kind of feels here to stay, but I'm, I'm sure he genuinely went through that.

00:29:55.600 --> 00:30:00.320
And it felt like, I think a lot of people forget this because a lot of sites like Facebook

00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:06.560
didn't leave my space left, all the other ones from there on that area left,

00:30:06.560 --> 00:30:12.480
all the old random YouTube video, the YouTube style video platforms are, are gone effectively.

00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:16.560
Back in the day, internet websites would, would come and go very rapidly.

00:30:16.560 --> 00:30:21.600
Platforms would come and go very rapidly. YouTube having staying power, Twitch, even at this point.

00:30:21.600 --> 00:30:27.120
Unprecedented. Has been around forever. Like these websites having this staying power, is it, is a relatively new thing?

00:30:27.120 --> 00:30:31.520
Yep. As much as it feels like the norm now. Yeah. So it's a slash.dig Reddit.

00:30:31.520 --> 00:30:36.560
Yeah. Reddit kind of like ended that, but there was a ton of websites like that back in the day.

00:30:36.560 --> 00:30:38.400
Stumble upon. It was cool.

00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:42.560
My space still exists. Yeah. Sure. Cool.

00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.760
I mean, it does technically, but you know what I mean. My space pivoted, yeah, to three people.

00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:56.960
I don't know. It's surprise unemployment is a fear no matter what anyone says always will be for me.

00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.080
Yeah. That, I mean, that's fair. That's fair.

00:31:01.360 --> 00:31:03.280
But what I will say is that

00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:11.920
we are responsibly managed, fiscally responsibly managed as a company.

00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:20.160
Yvonne and I, I feel like I've talked a lot about sort of Yvonne's careful financial management

00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:25.760
over the years and I've sort of made myself a butt of the joke about, you know, how I'm,

00:31:25.760 --> 00:31:28.560
you know, I'm irresponsible. I'm always asking her to do crazy stuff.

00:31:29.360 --> 00:31:33.040
I have never asked her to do anything that would put us in financial jeopardy.

00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:40.080
There have been times when we've, we've bet big, you know, buying the studio was a big bet.

00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.120
But it was a calculated bet.

00:31:45.120 --> 00:31:48.720
It was a necessary bet. We, we had to move into a commercial space.

00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:57.120
We, we made deals that made it made sense, that made it make sense, like the vessel sponsorship

00:31:57.120 --> 00:32:00.800
or the vessel deal that we did. Gold controller.

00:32:00.800 --> 00:32:06.240
Yeah. Gold controller was like, sure, it was irresponsible, but it was irresponsible in the sense that

00:32:07.280 --> 00:32:16.320
I was buying an asset, gold, at a time when, you know, global stability was on the decline.

00:32:16.560 --> 00:32:22.560
And I was getting content out of it that I knew once we made it would cover any like crafting

00:32:22.560 --> 00:32:26.960
costs that went into the actual fabrication of the items. Like what risk did I actually take?

00:32:28.320 --> 00:32:33.680
Yeah, that one didn't really bother me. So like, yes, I get negative feedback on that.

00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:39.120
Yeah, a little bit, but like, but like, I play this, I play this character on camera of like,

00:32:39.120 --> 00:32:44.960
oh, crazy Linus, you never know what he's going to do next. We're on the brink, we're not on the brink of anything.

00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:52.160
We're not on the brink of anything. It's okay. I mean, I think I've, I think I've told Luke, like the way that Yvonne and I would,

00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:59.280
would budget for the year would be based on not our forecast for that year, but would be based on

00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:05.520
if we shoot now, I actually remember this, but I haven't, we haven't done it in a while.

00:33:05.520 --> 00:33:11.600
I would definitely say it wrong, but I yeah, it was based on something along the lines of like,

00:33:12.560 --> 00:33:19.120
if we had to run it for the entire following year on only the profits we made last year

00:33:19.760 --> 00:33:24.800
or something like that, assuming zero revenue pretty much was the way that we would budget

00:33:24.800 --> 00:33:28.480
year after year after year. And the company has matured a little bit now.

00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:33.040
We don't have the same kind of explosive growth that would accommodate that anymore.

00:33:33.040 --> 00:33:37.840
But costs are more approaching the gain of the company, which is normal.

00:33:37.840 --> 00:33:44.560
But that's normal. We've, we've reached a more mature stage of the company, but we've also been running

00:33:45.120 --> 00:33:51.280
stably, profitably for 12 years now, right?

00:33:51.280 --> 00:33:56.160
So there's, there's a war chest there. There's genuinely funny that we both looked at the, there's, yeah, I know.

00:33:56.800 --> 00:34:00.240
There's contingency. There's contingency plans, right?

00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:04.480
It's like, it's rapidly approaching half my life, by the way.

00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:08.400
Thought I had the other day.

00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:12.320
Oh, that's f***ing up. Like actually getting very close.

00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:25.120
Wow. All right. Anyway, if there's anyone on staff watching, yeah, you know what, it's, it's natural

00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.720
and it's understandable to have that kind of fear.

00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:34.560
I, that's what motivated me for a not insignificant part of my career,

00:34:35.120 --> 00:34:38.400
was that fear that it could all go away. Make hay while the sun's shining.

00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.920
If I had a dollar for every time I told Yvonne, make hay while the sun's shining,

00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:46.400
I'd have, I don't know, probably be in the situation I'm in now.

00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.440
Like it's, it was very much my philosophy.

00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:58.000
But like the people who work here now, they don't work for that company

00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:02.080
that I was worried would go away tomorrow 10 years ago, you know?

00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:06.720
It's a very, it's a very different company.

00:35:06.720 --> 00:35:11.760
It has, it has a whole leadership team.

00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.760
It doesn't just have like, you know, one person making decisions that, you know,

00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.240
may or may not be somewhat irresponsible or whatever. It's, there's, there's processes.

00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:24.240
We, we move a little, we move a little slower than we used to.

00:35:24.240 --> 00:35:28.000
And that can be a bad thing because, you know, sometimes we're not,

00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:31.760
we're not quick enough to react, but it can also be a good thing because it means

00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:35.440
that we don't overreact all the time, you know?

00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.640
Sometimes, but everybody does sometimes.

00:35:41.120 --> 00:35:46.720
Yeah. Yeah, Tynan says the world is spicy and it always will be at least somewhat spicy.

00:35:46.720 --> 00:35:52.080
Yeah, you're not wrong. I think it's important to moderate how much of that spice invades your brain hole.

00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:59.680
It's hard though. It is very hard. It's hard. And especially when you look at the way like the media coverage of things has changed,

00:36:00.640 --> 00:36:09.440
you can't avoid that every, every new development is a, is a, is a world ending potential catastrophe.

00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:14.720
Yep. I think sometimes, and you should, I don't think people should completely disconnect from that.

00:36:14.720 --> 00:36:24.880
I've tried it before. I don't think it's the right route. I do at the same time think that sometimes it is not worth it when, when things are completely

00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:30.640
outside of your control, sometimes you need to just focus on what you can, what you can do

00:36:30.640 --> 00:36:36.480
as an individual to try to make things better, small things, medium things, big things, whatever,

00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:41.120
whatever they are, make your life, make the people around you, make their lives better

00:36:41.120 --> 00:36:47.760
if you can, and then just keep moving. Harry009 says, hey Linus, gold has gone up about 84% since you did the gold controller.

00:36:48.640 --> 00:36:49.040
I know.

00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:58.560
What all the rage bait? Yeah, that's, they're making money off of you. It's that, it's that like life is constant PVP thing.

00:36:58.560 --> 00:37:04.160
You have to understand that rage bait is someone trying to financially manipulate your brain

00:37:04.160 --> 00:37:11.200
into them making money off of you. It has nothing to do with giving you, you know, what you actually want.

00:37:11.200 --> 00:37:19.360
That is, that is how that works. So like understanding that and understanding that you are actively being actively manipulated

00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.960
whenever you're looking, whenever you swipe on your phone to go to the Google news feed.

00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.720
Yeah. Your phone is trying to keep you there. All those articles are trying to keep you there.

00:37:26.720 --> 00:37:32.160
And one of the best ways to do that is to make you pissed, to make you just live it all the time.

00:37:32.160 --> 00:37:34.320
Yeah. So understand that and control it.

00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:39.440
You say that like it's easy. It's not at all. And I suffer with it too.

00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:44.000
And everyone will because there is billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars

00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:48.880
and thousands and tens of thousands of people all obsessed with fighting you.

00:37:51.120 --> 00:37:52.000
And you have to win.

00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.560
But try not to obsess over that either. Yeah.

00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.960
Yeah. But sometimes like,

00:38:03.040 --> 00:38:05.520
yeah, I don't know. Go touch some grass.

00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.000
Yeah. Touching grass is good. But it's getting harder. It's getting harder.

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.920
Touching snow counts, in my opinion. Yeah. Touching snow counts. Touching snow completely counts.

00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.280
You go on the mountain, you know. Potentially better the grass. Breeds the mountain air.

00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.680
Yeah. I think snow is grass plus. I went for a nighttime walk the other night.

00:38:21.680 --> 00:38:24.880
Fantastic. And the snow. Nighttime walk is great. Fantastic. It was snowing.

00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.760
It was quiet. It was beautiful. Yeah. Nighttime walk, vastly underrated.

00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.400
It's really good. Underrated. It's really good. Yep.

00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:37.200
Every once in a while, I'll like drag Yvonne out for a nighttime walk around the neighborhood.

00:38:37.600 --> 00:38:41.600
It's like, isn't it nice that we can do this?

00:38:41.600 --> 00:38:44.640
Seriously. You know? Yeah. It's great.

00:38:44.640 --> 00:38:48.480
Yeah. I am Campbell says agreed. Night walk for the win. Night walks are great.

00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:52.640
100%. Jardine says it's cold outside. Can I just watch Shorzy instead?

00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:57.200
I mean, yeah. Okay. But then.

00:38:57.200 --> 00:39:02.560
I'll allow it. You know, go do that another time. Or go on a treadmill that's inside and it can be nice and warm or something like that.

00:39:04.160 --> 00:39:06.800
Live your life. Touch the ground outside of any kind. Yeah, there you go.

00:39:07.200 --> 00:39:10.640
Maybe you don't have grass. Maybe you don't have snow. It's okay. You could touch sand. It's okay.

00:39:10.640 --> 00:39:12.080
Don't overthink it. Touch sand.

00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.320
That would actually be great. Like a little keyboard tester style thing,

00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:22.960
where you just like put your finger in the holes and there's grass and sand and dirt and rocks.

00:39:24.240 --> 00:39:25.120
Put that on the sheet.

00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.040
And then just to add spice, there's like a diarrheal one. Oh no.

00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:35.920
Because that's what life's like. Every once in a while. Sometimes you go outside and you just you step in.

00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:41.360
You just step in top of it. It's going to happen. I'm going to enter the washroom speaking of which and I'll be right back.

00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:45.360
Maybe we could start the show. If that's your biggest problem for the day, you're probably doing all right.

00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.520
It's a long pre-show. Yeah, sometimes it needs to happen.

00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:03.600
Talk about birds. For people that don't know, I have three birds now, technically.

00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:10.000
One of them is a foundling, which is what you call a bird that you rescue from the wild.

00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.600
Stole it. Did not steal it. Stole it from the parks.

00:40:13.600 --> 00:40:18.160
Saved its life. Budgies would super not survive in BC.

00:40:18.160 --> 00:40:24.240
Put it with the rest of the ducks. It was actively being chased by other birds when it caught it.

00:40:24.240 --> 00:40:27.920
No, it wasn't me. Got borrowed. There you go. Thank you, Nerdle. You borrowed it. The birds are free.

00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:32.480
You can just take them. You can just take them. Anyways, yeah, she's doing really well.

00:40:32.560 --> 00:40:34.960
The foundling is a girl bird.

00:40:37.520 --> 00:40:40.640
A stalling? No, a foundling. Please stop it.

00:40:42.640 --> 00:40:46.560
All the birds are actually doing really well right now. The one that had the biggest health issue,

00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:51.200
when the two had health issues, the one that had the worst of it is on forever medicine.

00:40:53.120 --> 00:40:56.800
But we've gotten a lot better at giving that medicine

00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:02.400
to the point where M and I can both do it solo.

00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:09.120
So you can catch the bird and give them medicine at the same time, which super doesn't feel great,

00:41:09.120 --> 00:41:12.640
but being able to do it really makes lives a lot better.

00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:20.560
Because needing, no matter what, every single day to be home at exactly every 12-hour interval

00:41:20.560 --> 00:41:21.920
was really rough.

00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.200
But yeah, Luke even privateers a bird.

00:41:27.200 --> 00:41:29.760
Wow, wow, ridiculous.

00:41:32.560 --> 00:41:41.440
Oh, Luke, when were the backpack replacement pulls sent out?

00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:45.600
I have no idea. I honestly, I bet you the rest of chat probably,

00:41:45.600 --> 00:41:47.600
someone else in chat might know better than I do.

00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.560
Automate the medicine feeding? No, you have to force them. They don't like it.

00:42:01.120 --> 00:42:04.400
Although we ended up, the vet gave us like strawberry flavored

00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.440
stuff, so he likes it a little bit more now, but he still doesn't like the process.

00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:09.760
Likes the flavor, doesn't like the process.

00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.800
Get a parrot and have it on your shoulder. They are technically parrots,

00:42:17.600 --> 00:42:20.240
and the first bird that we had would sit on my shoulder all the time.

00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:25.360
But these ones, we got two this time because I was back

00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:29.600
in office, I wasn't at home all the time, and we didn't want to leave him alone.

00:42:30.560 --> 00:42:36.000
It's much harder to make them interact with you physically

00:42:36.640 --> 00:42:39.920
when you get two. Usually they just want to hang out with each other, and they want you there.

00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:45.920
They like your presence. They want to interact with you all the time. They find it very fun. It's very obvious, but if you only have one,

00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.720
they're going to want to like perch on you and stuff like that. And if you have two, they might still,

00:42:50.720 --> 00:42:52.560
but it's much more difficult.

00:42:55.200 --> 00:43:00.000
Tell me all the shitty things they said. El Tord just outed you guys.

00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.360
They were... So all the things that we didn't say about Elon

00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:08.000
that apparently we were evil for not saying, they said about you.

00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:14.720
I don't blame them. Yep. They're right. Yep. I think I'm just going to embrace my villain arc now.

00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:22.240
If it's that thing where like, this is actually apparently a thing with kids,

00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:25.360
as far as my understanding goes. You probably know, I'm assuming better than me.

00:43:26.080 --> 00:43:30.240
What are you saying? Go ahead. Complete that thought, sir.

00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:34.480
When you keep telling someone something, that they are something, they will kind of become it.

00:43:35.120 --> 00:43:39.280
So if you like repeatedly tell a kid that they're stupid. Yeah, they'll actually get dumber.

00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.600
They're like, going to be stupid. Why would you think that I would know that?

00:43:42.640 --> 00:43:45.040
You are such a f***ing asshole. Because there's the opposite.

00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.000
Come on. Come on.

00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:55.120
But then the opposite, scary. Because if you like keep telling some kid that they're brilliant,

00:43:55.200 --> 00:44:00.320
then they'll lose incentive to like study and stuff like that. Yeah, I think maybe we just might be overthinking that.

00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:06.800
It's like maybe a little somewhere in the middle. Yeah. Maybe we should just be, you know, supportive and corrective with kids.

00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.480
Yeah. Maybe that would be good. If you keep telling Luke he's a f***ing asshole,

00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.000
he'll be a f***ing asshole. Good. Yeah, good. You don't know me.

00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.360
Maybe I already am. Yeah, maybe he already is. You ever think of that? Yeah. Boom, got him.

00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.920
Yeah, what now? Boom, got him. Maybe, maybe he's the like unhinged one.

00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.120
And I'm the voice of reason. I write these scripts for Linus.

00:44:25.120 --> 00:44:31.440
Yeah, you'd never know it. And then he cuts off like 95% of it because they're just,

00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:35.600
they're just so toxic. So aggressive and toxic.

00:44:35.600 --> 00:44:40.240
And then he knows that if I read it out that I would just go f*** wild.

00:44:40.240 --> 00:44:42.800
So he has to read it out and I just have to sit here.

00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:48.000
Just seething, seething. He's seen incarnate the whole time.

00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.320
Yeah, that's really how it goes.

00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:56.080
Luke's parenting tips. Yeah, I have birds. I definitely know what I'm talking about to raise humans.

00:44:56.720 --> 00:45:00.160
That's all that works. I mean, they're basically just really small fragile humans.

00:45:00.160 --> 00:45:04.240
Directly equivalent. If anything, I think raising a bird shows that you have more skill.

00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:08.400
Honestly, it's more difficult. Yeah, I am better than all of you parents.

00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:13.280
And not narcissistic at all. No.

00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:22.320
I drive my birds to school. You see our buffalo says thought about it.

00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.280
He laughed during the honey stuff. Luke is a f***. I did, I laughed during the honey stuff.

00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.720
I don't know, probably. Yeah, maybe. Who knows? Yeah. Wait, no, I did.

00:45:30.720 --> 00:45:33.920
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, multiple times. Yeah. Yeah.

00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.600
I mean, Luke laughs at everything though. So we can't really say like, oh, Luke laughed.

00:45:38.720 --> 00:45:42.240
I mean, Luke Lafrenier, please.

00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:48.480
You know, there was like, when I was like, oh man, I must have been in like grade five or something.

00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:52.640
I was at my best friend's house and his parents were roasting me for laughing at everything.

00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.320
This has always been a problem. You know, but the, I got a write up when I was in university from the like,

00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.880
the leader of our dorms. I got in trouble for laughing too loudly.

00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:06.560
Yeah. And I was like, what am I supposed to do about this?

00:46:06.560 --> 00:46:10.800
Well, there's nothing you can do at that point because they yell at you for laughing too loudly.

00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.960
And then you can do nothing but continue to laugh loudly because of the power of suggestion.

00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:18.480
So see, see, see what happens.

00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:22.400
This is what you made him. Yeah, it's your fault.

00:46:23.040 --> 00:46:24.560
Yeah, jeez.

00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:30.400
Chewy messaged me. He goes, I know you're feeling spicy tonight. Try to be tactful with it.

00:46:32.080 --> 00:46:34.560
Try not to make my job hard over the weekend.

00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.640
Don't worry, buddy. I'll try not to get canceled today. Poor Chewy, dude.

00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:47.200
Everyone's are all like, he's in like the hallway office thing.

00:46:47.200 --> 00:46:51.280
Yeah. And everyone's will be passing through it. And he's like heads down working on something.

00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:55.680
And like, I want to talk to him for a second. Just be like, man, they're like, are you good?

00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.840
But then I'm like, I'm just going to leave him work. He probably just needs the time.

00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:03.040
I won't distract. I used to be in that office. I remember people would talk to me all the time

00:47:03.040 --> 00:47:06.400
and it drive me crazy. So, but uh. Not Chewy's a Chad. He's got this.

00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.880
He's got a lot of work. He's got a lot of stuff to do. He's got this.

00:47:09.680 --> 00:47:12.720
I'm simply vibing in here. So let's go.

00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.920
Let's go. I feel for you, man.

00:47:17.520 --> 00:47:20.880
All right, should we do this thing? Legitimately, one of the reactions

00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.240
that I have when I see like something go down on the internet that has to do with us.

00:47:24.240 --> 00:47:26.080
I'm like, ah, Chewy, no.

00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.840
Why do you have more work to do? That sucks.

00:47:35.520 --> 00:47:38.880
It's no longer like, oh no, what are we going to do? Because it's like, I don't know.

00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:44.160
This happens like every week. Dude, we should start an internal pool for like what's going to be our next controversy.

00:47:44.160 --> 00:47:48.800
Because like almost literally almost anything could be.

00:47:49.600 --> 00:47:53.040
Like, okay, you remember when everyone was like hyper mad at ASUS

00:47:53.040 --> 00:47:59.520
and for good reason, right? Dude, I have had equally bad experiences

00:47:59.520 --> 00:48:03.200
with almost literally every major tech brand.

00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.440
Almost all of them. And we've talked. Do you think it's just tech or is that just who you interface with most?

00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.800
No, no, we've talked about this extensively on the show. No, no, no.

00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.720
It's not just tech, but it's also there's patterns. There's patterns.

00:48:14.720 --> 00:48:18.000
It's like anything. You follow the money or the lack thereof.

00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:23.680
Sure. And we've talked about this extensively on the WAN Show. Going back to when the set had the like metal panels behind it.

00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:32.000
Where I'm like, okay, look, here's the situation. Why does the customer service suck at every like computer parts retailer?

00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:35.520
Because they have no money because their margins are so low. Let me tell you about their margins.

00:48:36.080 --> 00:48:42.320
Let me tell you about their overhead. Let me tell you about the kind of support they get from their brand partners.

00:48:44.720 --> 00:48:52.240
That's it. If you were willing to buy motherboards at 30%, 40% margin,

00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:57.920
then they could afford to offer good service. Why do you think Costco doesn't sell CPUs?

00:48:59.200 --> 00:49:06.400
Because there's no money in it. And Costco's model has that customer service cost baked into it.

00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:13.440
There is no free lunch. If you want great service, you buy from high margin companies.

00:49:14.240 --> 00:49:17.840
And if you want to get the cheapest possible product,

00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.640
then there's going to be compromises there. And so it's just, it's just one of those things where like,

00:49:26.080 --> 00:49:29.280
I don't know what to tell people anymore other than like, yeah,

00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.720
stuff's going to go wrong sometimes and fight for your rights.

00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:39.120
You don't fight for support. Go public when things, when things are actually totally unfair.

00:49:39.200 --> 00:49:43.680
And we've thrown our weight behind stuff like that in the past.

00:49:43.680 --> 00:49:47.440
And we're all going to do our best here.

00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:54.000
But the reality of it is, I have no idea what our next scandal will be.

00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:58.080
Because we did a sponsored build with Gigabyte one time

00:49:58.080 --> 00:50:02.240
and Gigabyte has got something I don't know, who knows, probably something.

00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.600
Um, I think the, I think the, the bigger issue is just, you know,

00:50:07.600 --> 00:50:12.160
not moving on from things like when they make amends.

00:50:13.600 --> 00:50:16.960
Are we, you know, how do we, how do we kind of, how do we kind of move on?

00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:21.120
Because the reality of it is, if we canceled every motherboard

00:50:21.120 --> 00:50:25.920
manufacturer, every time they did something crappy with respect to customer support,

00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:31.280
who would we have left? Yeah. Who would you buy a motherboard from?

00:50:32.560 --> 00:50:35.920
Who has a clean track record in the motherboard space in particular?

00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.960
Permanently. Yeah. I don't know.

00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:43.360
And like there's, I've talked about a bunch of times, my, my experience with.

00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:50.960
EVGA, please tell me you didn't have a 780i board without telling me you didn't have a 780i board.

00:50:52.080 --> 00:50:55.280
Please. I was actually just going to use EVGA as an example

00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.640
because I talk often about my, my mineral thing with them and about how often they were doing that.

00:51:00.640 --> 00:51:03.840
But that was a really long time ago. That was one case.

00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:10.640
I'm not every person, right? Yeah. Like maybe that, that person on the phone was just having a good day and felt like

00:51:10.640 --> 00:51:15.520
dealing with me really nicely. Maybe a week later, they had a bad day and dealt with someone poorly.

00:51:15.520 --> 00:51:23.280
Like you didn't, people are people. They're not these like, and honestly, I think this is going to get worse over time.

00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:28.640
With more and more use of like AI style systems and people interfacing with humans less.

00:51:28.640 --> 00:51:35.040
Oh yeah. And interfacing not with humans more, whether that's, you know, automated checkouts at stores

00:51:35.040 --> 00:51:39.600
and all these other things that are making so that the, the person-to-person interaction is, is, is less.

00:51:39.600 --> 00:51:44.880
And while that's going on, some of your interpersonal interaction, including on a

00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:51.040
relationship level, potentially being more learning towards, more leaning towards AI.

00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:55.760
More leaning towards AI systems that are just always going to be amazing to you under every

00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:00.160
circumstance, especially in the wording. And then you deal with a real person who has real feelings.

00:52:00.160 --> 00:52:06.320
And like they're, someone related to them is going through some, maybe they passed away

00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:10.960
or they moved to a different country and started running drugs or something crazy.

00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:17.920
Who knows? Something crazy might be going on in their lives that is impacting their communication.

00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:25.440
And that's a real person. You should probably still be respectful to them.

00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.560
And that seems to be kind of going away. I don't know.

00:52:28.560 --> 00:52:32.080
A bit was not flawless. AN7 was a mess.

00:52:34.160 --> 00:52:36.240
I don't think they ever properly acknowledged it.

00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:41.600
I think it was the AN7S. No, shoot.

00:52:41.600 --> 00:52:46.400
It was a later one. They had like a just disastrous board toward the end there.

00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.000
DFI had some real dog turds toward the end.

00:52:55.520 --> 00:52:58.800
Yeah. And Fleming says, one of my daughters worked tech support a few years ago.

00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.040
She could not believe how horrible people are.

00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:05.520
Yeah. It's brutal.

00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:12.000
But then I also like, I don't know, should we go into this conversation?

00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:17.120
I don't know. You can talk about whatever you want. Free country. I've talked about this before on Wancho, mostly a really long time ago, I think.

00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:21.360
But sometimes you'll find subreddits or there's even sections of the forum

00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:24.320
and other people's forum and stuff where you see it from the other side.

00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.920
You work on tech support and people are horrible. Okay.

00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:32.320
At the same time, you see people that work in tech support,

00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:36.720
just shame posting the people at their companies because they didn't know something about technology.

00:53:36.720 --> 00:53:40.080
I'm like, that's why you have a jaw. Shut up.

00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:46.400
And like, sure. Okay. Those people might be rude, massive assholes sometimes.

00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:52.160
Sure. Okay. You can call that out, I guess. But like when the person's just like, yeah,

00:53:52.160 --> 00:53:56.720
I don't know how this new fangled technology works. It's like, whatever dude, that's why you're there.

00:53:56.720 --> 00:54:02.480
Yeah. Their disinterest in technology is your paycheck.

00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:06.560
Yeah. Like, relax. I don't, I don't know. I've never understood that.

00:54:06.560 --> 00:54:10.720
I've never understood that. Tales from tech support called out.

00:54:10.720 --> 00:54:14.720
But no, seriously. And like some of the stuff on there is completely legitimate.

00:54:14.720 --> 00:54:18.240
Yeah, we're people like jerks. Sometimes people are just jerks and that's not okay.

00:54:18.240 --> 00:54:21.440
Or they lie. Or that. Yeah. Or whatever else.

00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:26.560
That's not cool. But a decent amount of it is just like,

00:54:27.680 --> 00:54:32.320
her, her, this person doesn't know anything about tech. Why can't they figure this out?

00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:34.640
It's like, I don't know. Because if they spent the time doing that,

00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:39.120
it would be a waste of their time. And if they spent the time doing that, you wouldn't have a job anymore.

00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:44.000
Yeah. That's something that's been really hard for me to wrap my brain around is that there's stuff

00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:49.760
that I'm like not allowed to do here anymore. Because it's a waste of my time.

00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:53.520
Even if it's stuff that I like to do. I don't know if a hundred percent that's true

00:54:53.520 --> 00:54:57.760
because you still need to do some things. Oh, I know. No, but there are things that they like,

00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:01.360
don't let me do really anymore. Like I'm not allowed to just like run benchmarks.

00:55:02.080 --> 00:55:02.960
Oh. Yeah.

00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:12.400
I don't know if that's good. I don't know if that's necessarily good. It can be good a lot of the time

00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:17.360
because I actually have more fun on a shoot when I'm experiencing something for the first time.

00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:23.760
Like and it's fresh. Like there's, okay, we did the gaming at 4K

00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.800
on the 5090 video earlier this week. So we just instead of using our benchmark suite,

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we took requests from people.

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So I picked some games, Ploof picked some games, and the community picked some games,

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and we just like played. Just, okay.

00:55:38.640 --> 00:55:41.920
Okay. You know, graphs aside. This was cool. How good is this thing?

00:55:42.640 --> 00:55:45.920
And what do you mean you remember it? We shot it this week. Oh, I thought that was a stream.

00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:50.160
Oh, that wasn't Ploof. No, a different one. Okay. But it's similar to stuff

00:55:50.160 --> 00:55:53.280
that we've done like that in the past. So that you're probably thinking of the Battle Mage stream.

00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:57.440
Yes. Anyway, so we did that with the 5090 at 4K

00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:02.880
on a 240 Hertz monitor that I hope is released already.

00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:08.400
One sec. People are posting about like how they work in tech support

00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:12.640
or they work in whatever and people are jerks. There's a difference between someone being a jerk

00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:15.680
and someone not knowing what they're doing. Craft computing's here.

00:56:15.680 --> 00:56:18.800
Okay, cool. You can run benchmarks for me.

00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:21.680
I'd hate for you to feel left out. Thank you.

00:56:23.680 --> 00:56:27.120
Okay. Yes, no, it is. It is already talked about already.

00:56:27.120 --> 00:56:30.160
So the QD OLED, 27 inch from MSI.

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So anyway, MSI sponsored the video and I had not like gamed at 4K on the 5090 yet,

00:56:37.680 --> 00:56:42.800
and I hadn't actually seen the monitor yet. So it's got DP 2.1 UHBR 20.

00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:48.400
So it's completely uncompressed, like perfect OLED motion clarity.

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:52.160
It's like the pixel densities, I think 166 PPI.

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On a 27 inch monitor, like it's not so, right?

00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:02.160
Anyway, so it was pretty fun for me to not, you know,

00:57:02.160 --> 00:57:06.480
make sure all the games worked ahead of time and walk onto set and like experience that fresh

00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:11.280
because it's like, man, everything looked incredible. Sorry, I just want to point this out again.

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.680
Joyce said work and support here. Customers frequently yell, swear and threaten us

00:57:15.680 --> 00:57:19.520
with our IRL info and names over the phone via support tickets is the thing we deal with

00:57:19.520 --> 00:57:23.840
and you get numb after a while. Unfortunately, I am not calling people out for that.

00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.960
What is this? I'm not calling people out for people being jerks

00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.400
and them being annoyed with people being jerks. Yeah. That is totally legit.

00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:39.280
As we've been saying the whole time, all I'm pointing out is if you work in a support role,

00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:44.560
a lot of the departments that I run are what I would consider more of like support roles.

00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:50.800
People needing your help is not a problem. People being huge jerks is a problem.

00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:53.680
Sure, 100% but people needing your help is not a problem.

00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.880
Yeah. You are the solution to that problem

00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:02.160
and that problem will and does exist everywhere.

00:58:02.240 --> 00:58:06.560
So like get over that part. But when the people are jerks,

00:58:06.560 --> 00:58:09.840
you shouldn't have to deal with that. That's a totally different thing. And pug boy makes a good point.

00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:13.440
There is a huge difference between people who are passively unaware

00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:17.520
and people who purposefully refuse to learn or try to put any effort into learning anything.

00:58:17.520 --> 00:58:21.120
Yeah, but even that just escalate it and move on.

00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:28.000
Who cares? I mean, if it was my ninth time going

00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:31.360
and showing someone how to print a document, I'd probably be over it.

00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.840
Yeah, but just like, I don't know. You should have a report that you can send that to

00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:40.560
and then it should be on the records that this person is wasting company resources.

00:58:40.560 --> 00:58:44.320
It should be, but like, you know. And then at a certain point it's just-

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Companies are, companies are broken. Yeah, not this one.

00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:52.560
We're flawless. We have no problems.

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I'm going to change the subject. No communication problems.

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No controversy problems. Resuming the selected now. Completely flawless.

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Resuming the selected, resuming the selected. Resuming the selected.

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Resuming the selected. Resuming the selected.

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Resuming the selected. Resuming the selected.

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Resuming the selected. What's up everybody?

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Welcome to The WAN Show! Hello!

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We've got a great show for you guys this week. Our headline topic was actually written

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by the one and only CEO of Linus Media Group. Oh, I was going to say me for a second.

00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:31.360
No, I'm not anymore. We'll be talking about the impact

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on our Creator Warehouse LTT Store business. I didn't know it was written by him.

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Some of the tariff stuff that has been going on. I will give you guys a bit of a teaser.

00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:43.360
Good news. Our shipments are no longer delayed.

00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:47.360
Oh. Yeah, so if you were worried about placing an order

00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.360
or if you were wanting to like cancel your order for your commuter backpack

00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:55.360
because you were worried it wasn't going to arrive in time. No, no, we've sorted everything out

00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:59.360
and we're like, dude, the firehose is freaking open

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Sorry, Chewie said it in chat. Tariff Tong.

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In other news, we'll be talking

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about how hard it is to buy an RTX 50 series card

01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:19.360
in spite of the middling reviews.

01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:25.360
Things are flipping wild out there. What else we got this week?

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Are you ready to risk it all? Framework has a risk 5

01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:33.360
main board. Wow. I'm actually

01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:37.360
very interested. I'm trying to resist not buying one. I probably won't buy one,

01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:41.360
but I'm trying to resist not buying one. You're not going to buy anything.

01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:45.360
It's so interesting. You don't buy anything.

01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:49.360
It's genuinely so cool. I'm not going to buy it, but it's so cool.

01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:53.360
I hope you get one so I can use it. The future of tech channels.

01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:57.360
Yeah, why not? It's a main topic. Sure. Let's do it.

01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:01.360
You can buy one.

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The show is brought to you today by Squarespace

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Vessie and DeleteMe

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and our partner, Dbrand and our chair partner, Secret Lab.

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Why don't we jump right into our headline topic to start things off

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and that is of course a topic

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in our doc that is titled We usually launch a product

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on Fridays, but if you have ordered

01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:45.360
anything over the last couple of weeks you might know that LTT Store

01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:49.360
has been working through some issues that are affecting shipments

01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:53.360
over the Canadian border. The TLDR for anyone who's not following

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current events is that tariffs and inbound shipment restrictions

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have been flipped off and back on like a light switch

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and it has affected goods that are made in Canada, Mexico

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and China, especially moving into the United States.

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Because of all the uncertainty we've been in constant communication

01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:17.360
with our courier partners on options to get our packages moving

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several false starts

01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:25.360
and some delays in shipping out products. However, late this morning

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we got the green light from our couriers that our shipments

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should be able to resume however

01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:37.360
this could be temporary. Our warehouse team has worked

01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:41.360
expeditiously all week picking and packing products, so just because we weren't

01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:45.360
shipping doesn't mean that there will necessarily be a huge delay

01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:49.360
in actual shoving out the door

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of products and we're trying to get as many packages as possible moving before the weekend.

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So that's before now, essentially.

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We want to make sure that as many pre-existing orders are in transit as possible

01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:05.360
before we launch any new products. So that's why we're not launching anything today.

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We did actually have something that was ready today, but we are not launching it.

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So we thank you for your patience as we work through this constantly evolving situation

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and we expect the remainder of our commuter backpack orders

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and waves to be fulfilled within the next couple of weeks, which hopefully

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will be before any new light switch flipping

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happens around tariffs.

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I know there are a lot of questions about tariffs and the delay in fulfillment is not

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how we typically like to operate but we would kindly ask you

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to hold those questions for a few more days while our support team focuses

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on getting everyone's orders out in the meantime.

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Which has been a monumental task. If you have any non-tariff

01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:53.360
and non-commuter backpack related questions or concerns about your order, our customer support team

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will be happy to assist you at LMG.gg slash contact us.

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Due to the volume of questions around recent changes to tariffs and global trade, customer service

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responses may be delayed and we appreciate your patience.

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Man, it has been They're doing what they can.

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It's been a wild ride. We were talking about this in the pre-show but basically

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I think probably multiple times. Every day this week

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I've had someone or other on the team ping me either with a message

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or a request for a quick five minute chat to kind of update me on the situation

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and I got to say I've actually been

01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:33.360
surprisingly zen about it. I mean this isn't our first rodeo.

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We know that a lot of gum flapping happens. We've been in a lot more

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dire of situations as a company too. Oh, absolutely.

01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:45.360
Not for a while but still. It's not good because here's something that I think a lot of people

01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:49.360
don't necessarily realize is the way that things were looking

01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:53.360
earlier in the week. The issue was not

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the 10% on China or even the 25%

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on Canadian made goods for us, right, because we're shipping

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out of Canada and not all but a lot of our products are manufactured in China.

01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:09.360
So it wasn't as simple as like, oh, okay, because

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they're shipping from Canada, that means 25% tariff because it's actually down to the

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country of manufacture and then you might say, okay, well what, like 10%?

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Yeah, realistically we could absorb 10%.

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The issue is not the 10%. The issue

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is that there already are tariffs on Chinese goods.

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Chinese manufactured goods I should say.

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But a lot of them don't get applied

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because of an exemption. A de minimis exemption is what it's called

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on shipments under $800. That's how companies like Temu

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exist at all because while those tariffs exist

01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:53.360
that would drive up the prices of their shipments that they send into the United States

01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:57.360
they have an exemption as long as it's under $800. So they ship in small enough amounts

01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:01.360
that it's under $800? That it doesn't impact them. So the issue

01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.360
is the 10% tariff. The issue was that it activated another

01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:09.360
I think 20% of tariffs

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with no de minimis exemption. Of course that would have caused

01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:17.360
immediate chaos because now all of a sudden the border would have been inspecting every

01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:21.360
single bloody shipment, which obviously they're not set up for right now

01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:25.360
so they would have had to figure that out. Which I suspect is part

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of the reason that this has been paused for now. Not

01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:33.360
necessarily because they changed their mind because

01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:37.360
they feel differently about it now. So if I was

01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:41.360
going to give you guys any

01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:45.360
conclusion from any of this, it would be

01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:49.360
if you want something from LTT Store regardless of whether we're launching

01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:51.360
a new product or not

01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:57.360
now's a good time to leave a merch message. You might want to leave a

01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:01.360
merch message and that's not just us. That basically goes for anything manufactured

01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:05.360
if you're American south of the border in Mexico, manufactured

01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:09.360
north of the border in Canada. And is below 800 bucks, right?

01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:13.360
Yeah, especially that. Or very, very,

01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:17.360
very west of the border in China.

01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:21.360
Yeah, that is a fair statement.

01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:25.360
He's not wrong. Look, we call China the east

01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:29.360
you know, the far east, but relative to what? I say

01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:33.360
we make North America the prime meridian.

01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:37.360
Wow. Yeah, that's right. So China's the west now. So you're

01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:41.360
raising. Europe is the east. Trump was like, no, it's the Gulf of America

01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:45.360
and you're like, well, yeah, I will raise the chips in this game. Yeah, let's

01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:47.360
go.

01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:53.360
Oh boy. Destitute Radium says it's a bit of a rough time to be involved in

01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:57.360
keyboard group buys. Yeah, because by the time it, by the time it gets delivered,

01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:01.360
you'll have no idea what the thing costs.

01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:05.360
Yikes. Dude, this is,

01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:09.360
this is just, it's chaos basically. It's, it's

01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:13.360
sowing chaos and. Someone in China said their Vancouver based company already

01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:17.360
did layoffs because of all this. Really? Just like immediate reaction.

01:08:17.360 --> 01:08:21.360
I am extremely sorry to hear that. I'm not

01:08:21.360 --> 01:08:25.360
incredibly surprised, but I'm sorry to hear that. I do have to say that I

01:08:25.360 --> 01:08:29.360
suspect that part of that might have been something else going on already.

01:08:29.360 --> 01:08:33.360
There might have been a convenient situation. This might, yeah, this might

01:08:33.360 --> 01:08:37.360
be a bit of a scapegoat because as someone who happens to run

01:08:37.360 --> 01:08:41.360
a business shipping, you know, manufactured goods,

01:08:41.360 --> 01:08:45.360
I mean, I don't remember what percentage of our customer base is in the

01:08:45.360 --> 01:08:49.360
US, but it's a big chance. A lot. Yeah, it's I think it's over 50%.

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I think not by a huge amount, but I think that's correct.

01:08:53.360 --> 01:08:57.360
We have only really seen an impact on order volumes over like the last four days.

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So if your company saw an impact on orders

01:09:01.360 --> 01:09:05.360
over the last four days and already let a bunch of people go,

01:09:05.360 --> 01:09:09.360
I would say that's kind of suspect. However, however, if

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your, if your shipments are more based on contracts

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and so you're doing volume

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B2B over the border into the states, then

01:09:21.360 --> 01:09:25.360
I could see this kind of uncertainty causing you to preemptively

01:09:25.360 --> 01:09:29.360
cut expenses. Especially if you operate with almost exclusively American customers, which

01:09:29.360 --> 01:09:33.360
does happen in Canada. And who may have called you immediately

01:09:33.360 --> 01:09:37.360
when they saw these tariffs and go, sorry, brother, we're done. Yeah, we're

01:09:37.360 --> 01:09:41.360
we're we're we're we're we're cancelling our orders for the rest of the year. So that

01:09:41.360 --> 01:09:45.360
is a possibility. However, if you're B2C business to consumer,

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then that raises some red flags for me less likely. Yeah.

01:09:49.360 --> 01:09:53.360
All right. What else do we want to talk about? That was it. That was, we got through that

01:09:53.360 --> 01:09:57.360
pretty quick. A similar thing does happen, though, like a lot of the return to office

01:09:57.360 --> 01:10:01.360
stuff has been revealed to be

01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:05.360
basically just trimming head count because they wanted to trim head. Oh, 100%.

01:10:05.360 --> 01:10:09.360
Yeah, 100%. That totally makes sense. Yeah. All right.

01:10:09.360 --> 01:10:13.360
Back to standard topics. Should we jump into the, what should we

01:10:13.360 --> 01:10:17.360
jump into? What's different

01:10:17.360 --> 01:10:21.360
on this framework thing? Ready to risk it all

01:10:21.360 --> 01:10:25.360
this topic? I don't know. Framework, insert disclosure. I'm just going to

01:10:25.360 --> 01:10:29.360
read this. I think it'll be fine. I'm personally invested in framework.

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Insert disclosure about how Linus has invested his personal monies into the company. Cool.

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We did it. They're cool. Framework has made a risk five

01:10:37.360 --> 01:10:41.360
mainboard, which is compatible with the framework 13 laptop. It features

01:10:41.360 --> 01:10:45.360
the Star 5 GH7 110 processor, which

01:10:45.360 --> 01:10:49.360
has four sci-fi, as I think the way you're supposed to say that,

01:10:49.360 --> 01:10:53.360
use 74 cores. The board comes with eight gigs of

01:10:53.360 --> 01:10:57.360
LPDDR4 soldered memory and uses microSD slash

01:10:57.360 --> 01:11:01.360
emcc storage. It's available for 200

01:11:01.360 --> 01:11:05.360
freedom dollars. For now. For now. That, to be clear, is

01:11:05.360 --> 01:11:09.360
the main board. Meaning you could build something out of this yourself

01:11:09.360 --> 01:11:13.360
because I believe there are compatible, yeah, compatible chassis, the framework 13 laptop chassis.

01:11:13.360 --> 01:11:17.360
So you would have to buy other stuff around this if you wanted to turn this into a laptop.

01:11:17.360 --> 01:11:21.360
Or you could hook it in the Cooler Master mainboard case. Sick. Or you could do that.

01:11:21.360 --> 01:11:25.360
Or you could just 3D print a case for it. You don't have to do the other bit.

01:11:25.360 --> 01:11:29.360
Wait, hold on. 200 freedom dollars. Oh, that's Canadian.

01:11:29.360 --> 01:11:33.360
That's fun. That's very fun. So there's a couple things to note.

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It was built in collaboration with Deep Computing and this is

01:11:37.360 --> 01:11:41.360
very much a developer focused board to help accelerate maturing

01:11:41.360 --> 01:11:45.360
the software ecosystem around risk 5. We recommend

01:11:45.360 --> 01:11:49.360
waiting for future products if you're looking for a consumer ready

01:11:49.360 --> 01:11:53.360
experience. It's so cool though. And some people pointed out that this was announced a long time ago.

01:11:53.360 --> 01:11:57.360
That is true. I think the reason why we're talking about it is because you can buy it. That's right. It's here.

01:11:57.360 --> 01:12:01.360
It's a real product. It sounds so cool. I

01:12:01.360 --> 01:12:05.360
have zero regrets about investing in framework. Sick. I have

01:12:05.360 --> 01:12:09.360
no idea what my stake is worth. Narev offered

01:12:09.360 --> 01:12:13.360
to look it up and tell me. And I was like,

01:12:13.360 --> 01:12:17.360
sounds like a lot of work. Sounds like something you have

01:12:17.360 --> 01:12:21.360
better things to do than. So I literally don't know.

01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:25.360
But I am really impressed with how the point

01:12:25.360 --> 01:12:29.360
was to make money off it. With how they have taken additional investment

01:12:29.360 --> 01:12:33.360
and as far as I can tell have not lost their soul.

01:12:33.360 --> 01:12:37.360
Yes. That's not necessarily the easiest thing

01:12:37.360 --> 01:12:41.360
to do. No. Because we don't have experience

01:12:41.360 --> 01:12:45.360
with that. But if perceptions of even knowing people that have gone through those

01:12:45.360 --> 01:12:49.360
rounds and hearing the difficulties that they have. The kind of pressure they're under

01:12:49.360 --> 01:12:53.360
to turn a profit at any cost. At any cost. Or not even turn

01:12:53.360 --> 01:12:57.360
a profit to force an increase of user count for whatever

01:12:57.360 --> 01:13:01.360
reason or to do something that isn't really the thing that they actually wanted.

01:13:01.360 --> 01:13:05.360
There's a lot of the time the investors you have now are ones that you may rely

01:13:05.360 --> 01:13:09.360
on again when you do another round of funding. So if you are not

01:13:09.360 --> 01:13:13.360
listening to them or at least making them feel heard. That could hurt

01:13:13.360 --> 01:13:17.360
your chances of survival. I am

01:13:17.360 --> 01:13:21.360
so glad that we've never taken outside money. Every

01:13:21.360 --> 01:13:25.360
time I hear stories about it. I'm just like, I have a relative

01:13:25.360 --> 01:13:29.360
that is currently operating in burning investment

01:13:29.360 --> 01:13:33.360
capital mode. They're not profitable.

01:13:33.360 --> 01:13:37.360
It's like seeing the kind of stress that they're under

01:13:37.360 --> 01:13:41.360
to reach the next milestone to

01:13:41.360 --> 01:13:45.360
show something tangible so that they can do another round so that they

01:13:45.360 --> 01:13:49.360
can survive a little longer is like

01:13:49.360 --> 01:13:53.360
terrifying. It's not.

01:13:53.360 --> 01:13:57.360
We went through similar but more different terrifying things.

01:13:57.360 --> 01:14:01.360
100%. There were definitely times when...

01:14:01.360 --> 01:14:05.360
Lost various opportunities and stuff. But I would take

01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:09.360
this road again. Definitely.

01:14:09.360 --> 01:14:13.360
It's not always an option for everybody either. No, and it's not.

01:14:13.360 --> 01:14:17.360
I think there are cases. They say money is the root of all evil.

01:14:17.360 --> 01:14:21.360
I think there's a lot of truth there.

01:14:21.360 --> 01:14:25.360
Even good people have been driven to do

01:14:25.360 --> 01:14:29.360
the questionable

01:14:29.360 --> 01:14:33.360
things. If we were on the brink of survival,

01:14:33.360 --> 01:14:37.360
I was joking with Luke about Dropcoin again.

01:14:37.360 --> 01:14:41.360
I saw that stupid What was it?

01:14:41.360 --> 01:14:45.360
Dropcoin. Its value is going to drop. Yeah.

01:14:45.360 --> 01:14:49.360
No, that company that came up

01:14:49.360 --> 01:14:53.360
rose from the ashes to basically just do a crypto grift. Enron.

01:14:53.360 --> 01:14:57.360
We were looking at the stupid Enron coin

01:14:57.360 --> 01:15:01.360
and I was like it's just free

01:15:01.360 --> 01:15:05.360
money. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. If we were not

01:15:05.360 --> 01:15:09.360
morally opposed to this, like... It clearly

01:15:09.360 --> 01:15:13.360
repeatedly over and over and over

01:15:13.360 --> 01:15:17.360
and over again works. People just make some

01:15:17.360 --> 01:15:21.360
complete BS coin thing.

01:15:21.360 --> 01:15:25.360
People get ripped off on it and then everyone goes oh my god

01:15:25.360 --> 01:15:29.360
how could this have happened and it's like bro

01:15:29.360 --> 01:15:33.360
can we stop? So tell me this if we were on the brink

01:15:33.360 --> 01:15:37.360
would you be more receptive if we're on the brink?

01:15:37.360 --> 01:15:41.360
If I was serious about that, if I was like okay what if we just find a way, because we've talked about this on WAN

01:15:41.360 --> 01:15:45.360
show in the past, whether it's like Dropcoin or Linuscoin or I think we've

01:15:45.360 --> 01:15:49.360
pitched Rugpolecoin as a name for it at some point

01:15:49.360 --> 01:15:53.360
if we were on the brink because remember it's not just me, it's not just you

01:15:53.360 --> 01:15:57.360
it's look around every person

01:15:57.360 --> 01:16:01.360
surrounding you, even him could be

01:16:01.360 --> 01:16:05.360
gone if we don't survive. If it was down to our survival, would you consider it?

01:16:05.360 --> 01:16:07.360
Would you consider the VPN?

01:16:09.360 --> 01:16:13.360
With the moral quandary that exists for you because

01:16:13.360 --> 01:16:17.360
I'll get you guys caught up we pretty much developed

01:16:17.360 --> 01:16:21.360
a VPN. It was like it was ready to go

01:16:21.360 --> 01:16:25.360
it was like actually pretty good we killed it, we were proud of it

01:16:25.360 --> 01:16:29.360
it works well, we kept using it for a little bit we don't use it anymore

01:16:29.360 --> 01:16:33.360
we killed it because neither Luke nor

01:16:33.360 --> 01:16:37.360
I were comfortable knowing that

01:16:37.360 --> 01:16:41.360
at some point we were going to know that someone using the service did some stuff

01:16:41.360 --> 01:16:45.360
even if it's not logged still happening

01:16:45.360 --> 01:16:49.360
we could still know there are ways that we could know

01:16:49.360 --> 01:16:53.360
and we would have to say we don't know. It's also like pretty much guaranteed

01:16:53.360 --> 01:16:57.360
which was the real kicker for me

01:16:57.360 --> 01:17:01.360
we talked to a lawyer about it and the lawyer basically said

01:17:01.360 --> 01:17:05.360
whether you factually know or not

01:17:05.360 --> 01:17:09.360
you know because this is what people use this is one of the many things

01:17:09.360 --> 01:17:13.360
and there are things that are fine but this is one of the many things

01:17:13.360 --> 01:17:17.360
that must not save logs yeah, they can still know

01:17:17.360 --> 01:17:21.360
yeah because you'll still get notices

01:17:21.360 --> 01:17:25.360
delivered to you like the

01:17:25.360 --> 01:17:29.360
encryption might not be able to attach it to you which is probably what you want but

01:17:29.360 --> 01:17:33.360
that also means that they can attach these things to other people so like you can

01:17:33.360 --> 01:17:37.360
watch your little show and be protected or whatever

01:17:37.360 --> 01:17:41.360
but that other person can look at content that I think

01:17:41.360 --> 01:17:45.360
you know in my opinion

01:17:45.360 --> 01:17:49.360
morally right people would be horrifically disgusted about the fact

01:17:49.360 --> 01:17:53.360
that they looked at and you would know that that's happening on a network that you are supporting

01:17:53.360 --> 01:17:57.360
and it's like man yeah I don't want to do that so we bailed out but

01:17:57.360 --> 01:18:01.360
man we ran the numbers dude

01:18:01.360 --> 01:18:05.360
this could be a different world so if we were on the brink of survival

01:18:05.360 --> 01:18:09.360
knowing that we already exist in a gray area anyway because it's not like

01:18:09.360 --> 01:18:13.360
we don't promote PIA our sponsor we just didn't

01:18:13.360 --> 01:18:17.360
want to be the ones who actually have to say

01:18:17.360 --> 01:18:21.360
no I'm not going to tell you who that is no I went out of my way to delete that

01:18:21.360 --> 01:18:25.360
even though I know you know I know people are using it for this

01:18:25.360 --> 01:18:29.360
we just didn't want to have to be the ones that had to do it would you reconsider your position

01:18:29.360 --> 01:18:31.360
if it meant survival

01:18:39.360 --> 01:18:41.360
I

01:18:43.360 --> 01:18:47.360
he's thinking he's doing a think over here

01:18:47.360 --> 01:18:51.360
I feel like on the VPN it's a maybe

01:18:51.360 --> 01:18:53.360
just because

01:18:55.360 --> 01:18:59.360
it's not like we're making it more accessible

01:18:59.360 --> 01:19:03.360
for those people there are so many out there

01:19:03.360 --> 01:19:07.360
that is such a slippery slope that is a very slippery slope

01:19:07.360 --> 01:19:11.360
someone's got to provide the heroin

01:19:11.360 --> 01:19:15.360
someone's going to do it I'm just thinking like do we add

01:19:15.360 --> 01:19:19.360
another VPN to the pile and save 100 plus jobs

01:19:19.360 --> 01:19:23.360
like this is the scenario you're trying to lay out for me do we just

01:19:23.360 --> 01:19:27.360
I'm reiterating it for the people in chat do we add another VPN to the pile and save 100 plus jobs

01:19:27.360 --> 01:19:31.360
or do we not do we think PSU circuit is like

01:19:31.360 --> 01:19:35.360
net good in the world we're using it to buy

01:19:35.360 --> 01:19:39.360
carbon net good credits or whatever

01:19:39.360 --> 01:19:43.360
if we're using it to buy carbon credits I know what you mean

01:19:43.360 --> 01:19:47.360
net good credits so that we can run our VPN

01:19:47.360 --> 01:19:51.360
or whatever the world is morally

01:19:51.360 --> 01:19:55.360
questionable and morally gray

01:19:55.360 --> 01:19:59.360
and I guess I'm not even necessarily looking for an answer from you

01:19:59.360 --> 01:20:03.360
I think my problem with the coin thing is it is

01:20:03.360 --> 01:20:05.360
every time this happens that people just

01:20:07.360 --> 01:20:11.360
will never figure it out so then

01:20:11.360 --> 01:20:13.360
someone's going to make money off them

01:20:15.360 --> 01:20:19.360
but I think that's different I genuinely think it's different

01:20:19.360 --> 01:20:23.360
because I don't think there is a like what is the possible benefit

01:20:23.360 --> 01:20:27.360
of making another I don't feel like pressing the button

01:20:27.360 --> 01:20:31.360
another crap coin oh the possible benefit is gambling

01:20:31.360 --> 01:20:35.360
like topgear1224 on the floor playing chat says

01:20:35.360 --> 01:20:39.360
the reason these cryptocurrency scams continued to perform is simple

01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:43.360
I bought over a thousand dollars of doge when it was 0.0002

01:20:45.360 --> 01:20:49.360
I sold at 0.001 if I held until

01:20:49.360 --> 01:20:53.360
0.75 multi-millionaire

01:20:53.360 --> 01:20:57.360
it's that chance that drives people to gamble hard

01:20:57.360 --> 01:21:01.360
that's it it's that simple

01:21:01.360 --> 01:21:05.360
important reminder call this is hypothetical man I don't disagree

01:21:05.360 --> 01:21:09.360
with you Bixby we probably should say yet again that this is hypothetical

01:21:09.360 --> 01:21:13.360
but I would also appreciate if people just f***

01:21:13.360 --> 01:21:17.360
relaxed it's so obvious you're not wrong

01:21:17.360 --> 01:21:21.360
you're not wrong at all that was a good call out I should have just done that thank you I appreciate it

01:21:21.360 --> 01:21:25.360
but I really wish you weren't right it's ridiculous I'm so

01:21:25.360 --> 01:21:29.360
tired what are you saying you don't want to be like

01:21:29.360 --> 01:21:33.360
cancelled again just like to chill for one week

01:21:35.360 --> 01:21:39.360
I got like anxiety because

01:21:39.360 --> 01:21:43.360
it was Friday morning

01:21:43.360 --> 01:21:47.360
and I was like when's the world gonna fall

01:21:47.360 --> 01:21:51.360
the world hasn't started falling yet I need to be stopping

01:21:51.360 --> 01:21:55.360
the world from falling how do I do that if I don't know what's happening and then

01:21:55.360 --> 01:21:59.360
oh you just needed to be briefed on all the tariff stuff then you would have known the world was falling

01:21:59.360 --> 01:22:03.360
yeah fair enough yeah I guess it's just a different no no we were at the point where it looked like

01:22:03.360 --> 01:22:07.360
in order for us to ship into the states and it is a really

01:22:07.360 --> 01:22:11.360
good thing that we delayed our shipments that we stopped

01:22:11.360 --> 01:22:15.360
pushing out the door because if we had you would have been hit by that because the exemption wasn't

01:22:15.360 --> 01:22:19.360
through yet or whatever I don't think anyone knows exactly how it would

01:22:19.360 --> 01:22:23.360
have gone sure but basically by holding on to them

01:22:23.360 --> 01:22:27.360
until the de minimis exemption was restored earlier today

01:22:27.360 --> 01:22:31.360
we know as they're going out that everything's chill

01:22:31.360 --> 01:22:35.360
but looking at the worst case scenario goods that we were shipping into the states

01:22:35.360 --> 01:22:39.360
we could have essentially had our entire margin on them wiped out

01:22:39.360 --> 01:22:43.360
or you guys could have seen retail prices

01:22:43.360 --> 01:22:47.360
as high as I believe the numbers they were throwing around at me was like 35 to 40%

01:22:47.360 --> 01:22:51.360
higher or something like that like like

01:22:51.360 --> 01:22:55.360
because of the stacking because of the tariff from China

01:22:55.360 --> 01:22:59.360
than the tariff from us and the de minimis going away not quite like that but basically

01:22:59.360 --> 01:23:03.360
yeah multiple factors stacking on top of each other really yikes

01:23:03.360 --> 01:23:07.360
and to add another thing to the coin conversation

01:23:07.360 --> 01:23:11.360
sure I think it was I think I was telling you about this yesterday I've heard

01:23:11.360 --> 01:23:15.360
I'm gonna screw up the quote so I apologize but I've heard a quote from coffee zilla

01:23:15.360 --> 01:23:19.360
that is something along the lines of like ironically scamming people is still scamming people

01:23:19.360 --> 01:23:23.360
crazy pitch and you know this is coming because we've talked about it already

01:23:23.360 --> 01:23:27.360
oh no what if we collaborated with coffee zilla

01:23:27.360 --> 01:23:31.360
on the most ethical coin how do we how do we

01:23:31.360 --> 01:23:35.360
possibly make an ethical does I do wonder like is there

01:23:35.360 --> 01:23:39.360
a line there like can you make because I pointed out to Linus Linus

01:23:39.360 --> 01:23:43.360
had never heard of this I pointed this out to Linus I said scam me daddy

01:23:43.360 --> 01:23:47.360
well I pointed out fart coin yeah do you mind if I throw up your laptop

01:23:47.360 --> 01:23:51.360
I'm still loading it but sure what's down 7%

01:23:51.360 --> 01:23:55.360
24 hours yeah

01:23:55.360 --> 01:23:59.360
and like I've heard people talk about this for a long time

01:23:59.360 --> 01:24:03.360
I am really not into crypto stuff I have no idea what I'm talking about

01:24:03.360 --> 01:24:07.360
I own zero crypto right now so to make of that what you will

01:24:07.360 --> 01:24:11.360
yeah so we are we are just coming at this as ignorant

01:24:11.360 --> 01:24:15.360
be mused observers right now yes we know nothing

01:24:15.360 --> 01:24:19.360
but like I this has been around for like a long time

01:24:19.360 --> 01:24:23.360
this isn't new can I get a bit oh here we go

01:24:23.360 --> 01:24:27.360
let's go back like a month look people have been actively trading this

01:24:27.360 --> 01:24:31.360
let's go back a year yeah do you have the little green and red line thing is that

01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:35.360
just down below I'm showing the trading volume okay not on this one you're thinking of candlesticks

01:24:35.360 --> 01:24:39.360
perfect yes perfect example of we don't know what we're talking about

01:24:39.360 --> 01:24:43.360
yeah yeah but like people actively trade these these

01:24:43.360 --> 01:24:47.360
coin things um so like can you make one

01:24:47.360 --> 01:24:51.360
that is just that is fine completely transparently a

01:24:51.360 --> 01:24:55.360
coin yeah that might rise and fall maybe you

01:24:55.360 --> 01:24:59.360
can I don't know I don't know I don't know people coffee so it would know

01:24:59.360 --> 01:25:03.360
probably I yes have we actually talked to him I know we've talked

01:25:03.360 --> 01:25:07.360
of him and he's made videos about us and we bought a shirt

01:25:07.360 --> 01:25:11.360
I don't think so I don't think we have I suspect his answer is going

01:25:11.360 --> 01:25:15.360
like no well that's the safest answer for like his brand

01:25:15.360 --> 01:25:19.360
regardless of whether he actually thinks there's a way to do it because he's been so publicly

01:25:19.360 --> 01:25:23.360
against them we could never get him to like endorse it oh no no way

01:25:23.360 --> 01:25:27.360
I wouldn't yet I would never ask of course not but I do wonder if there's

01:25:27.360 --> 01:25:31.360
if maybe the guidance isn't even for us right maybe the guidance is just

01:25:31.360 --> 01:25:35.360
out there because it could also be used as like if this new coin

01:25:35.360 --> 01:25:39.360
that shows up does not align with this guidance avoid it

01:25:39.360 --> 01:25:43.360
interesting I would watch that

01:25:43.360 --> 01:25:47.360
video I would watch it too I would watch coffee talk about what

01:25:47.360 --> 01:25:51.360
the ethical ICO would look like if there

01:25:51.360 --> 01:25:55.360
even is one if there could be one because I feel like there might not be what would a theoretical

01:25:55.360 --> 01:25:59.360
I don't know anything about ethical ICO look like because I can definitely think

01:25:59.360 --> 01:26:03.360
of actually valid and valuable you know

01:26:03.360 --> 01:26:07.360
blockchain applications even a token right like if we were gonna do that

01:26:07.360 --> 01:26:11.360
though like you okay say for example we were to

01:26:11.360 --> 01:26:15.360
I don't know create a token where if

01:26:15.360 --> 01:26:19.360
you watch okay there'd be technological

01:26:19.360 --> 01:26:23.360
hurdles that we probably couldn't clear but I'm telling you so this is the

01:26:23.360 --> 01:26:27.360
theory so we made a token that if you watch more hours

01:26:27.360 --> 01:26:31.360
on Floatplane or interact a lot or something

01:26:31.360 --> 01:26:35.360
then you earn the token and you can use it for a discount on LTC

01:26:35.360 --> 01:26:39.360
I also don't use twitch a lot so now we're talking about two things so it's almost like an attention

01:26:39.360 --> 01:26:43.360
token which would be somewhat similar to what like brave browser does so that's a

01:26:43.360 --> 01:26:47.360
thing on twitch as far as my understanding goes and people are gonna say I'm wrong because I

01:26:47.360 --> 01:26:51.360
have no idea what I'm talking about which is true but I think I think if you watch streamers

01:26:51.360 --> 01:26:55.360
on twitch you can gain these certain types of points and you can oh bits this is just

01:26:55.360 --> 01:26:59.360
which I don't think it's bits is it not but what are bit channel points channel

01:26:59.360 --> 01:27:03.360
points okay because then you can exchange those for like

01:27:03.360 --> 01:27:07.360
I don't know do you know stuff emotes you can

01:27:07.360 --> 01:27:11.360
do text to speech stuff it really depends on what the streamer sets up bits are like

01:27:11.360 --> 01:27:15.360
micro tips so it's it's set up by the streamer so you could you could exchange it for things

01:27:15.360 --> 01:27:19.360
this doesn't fix the rug pool that I think you guys are talking about

01:27:19.360 --> 01:27:23.360
which is where you launching the coin own most of the float and then

01:27:23.360 --> 01:27:27.360
can just dump it and manipulate float is that the initial amount

01:27:27.360 --> 01:27:31.360
okay you know the us treasury has knowledge us treasury

01:27:31.360 --> 01:27:35.360
holds so much money in circulation in the economy yes and when they print

01:27:35.360 --> 01:27:39.360
more money the value of the money goes down yes so if you guys launch a coin

01:27:39.360 --> 01:27:43.360
and there is one million coins in circulation yes and you release

01:27:43.360 --> 01:27:47.360
20 to the public to buy and we hold and then you just sell

01:27:47.360 --> 01:27:51.360
a bunch yes when it's high and then the market implodes

01:27:51.360 --> 01:27:55.360
so that's my rough understanding please correct me if I'm wrong so

01:27:55.360 --> 01:27:59.360
with an ethical ICO it called it's just launching a normal

01:27:59.360 --> 01:28:03.360
coin yeah you would just be launching a coin and it would just be crappy

01:28:03.360 --> 01:28:07.360
so most of them but an ethical ICO would would initially

01:28:07.360 --> 01:28:11.360
offer the entire supply and I would keep none for myself

01:28:11.360 --> 01:28:15.360
you need to be able to prove that though oh I see I don't know if that's possible

01:28:15.360 --> 01:28:19.360
that's above my understanding shouldn't that be possible I don't

01:28:19.360 --> 01:28:23.360
know I don't know Dan is correct says top gear

01:28:23.360 --> 01:28:27.360
yeah please correct me if I'm wrong I'm not right I'm not entirely sure

01:28:27.360 --> 01:28:31.360
if this is completely accurate things might have changed but this is my understanding

01:28:31.360 --> 01:28:35.360
of how coins work and so a lot of the rug pulls are basically yeah

01:28:35.360 --> 01:28:39.360
we don't own anything jk actually

01:28:39.360 --> 01:28:43.360
we have 10,000 old wallets I thought you can tell how much

01:28:43.360 --> 01:28:47.360
they have as a float I think they can state but then they could

01:28:47.360 --> 01:28:51.360
also potentially have I don't know I have no idea what I'm talking about

01:28:51.360 --> 01:28:55.360
yeah it's very very difficult especially because

01:28:55.360 --> 01:28:59.360
you know blockchain is a concept and you know

01:28:59.360 --> 01:29:03.360
each coin has its own ledger right

01:29:03.360 --> 01:29:07.360
that's another thing where if you did decide to if you if you decided that you found a way

01:29:07.360 --> 01:29:11.360
to do this ethically and you decided to do it we'd need a significantly better understanding

01:29:11.360 --> 01:29:15.360
of what we're doing oh 100% I think being ethical is just

01:29:15.360 --> 01:29:19.360
you know not manipulating the stock price or the

01:29:19.360 --> 01:29:23.360
the coin price of your coin we would also need a way to prove that we didn't

01:29:23.360 --> 01:29:27.360
yeah I don't know if that's possible I don't know enough about

01:29:27.360 --> 01:29:31.360
how the initial float is like

01:29:31.360 --> 01:29:34.360
distributed because you'd have to like

01:29:34.360 --> 01:29:38.360
Aeraldo says depending on the blockchain tech but yes you can absolutely prove

01:29:38.360 --> 01:29:42.360
who owns what on the chain at launch oh good then just do that

01:29:42.360 --> 01:29:46.360
so if we do that it's ethical but then if you do that what's the point

01:29:46.360 --> 01:29:50.360
well then you rug pull it because you told them that you're gonna do that so Linus owns

01:29:50.360 --> 01:29:54.360
a million coins and then you you put 10 up for sale

01:29:54.360 --> 01:29:58.360
I have a million and here's 10 and then people trade them

01:29:58.360 --> 01:30:02.360
and then you pull it anyway because that's what you said you were gonna do that would be ethical

01:30:02.360 --> 01:30:06.360
because you explained that you were gonna I don't think so I think it's back to

01:30:06.360 --> 01:30:10.360
coffee zilla's point telling someone you're gonna scam them or like getting scammed

01:30:10.360 --> 01:30:14.360
for lulls is still getting scammed it depends on what you think is ethical

01:30:14.360 --> 01:30:18.360
because if you just want to launch a real coin is that

01:30:18.360 --> 01:30:22.360
technically ethical I mean we have the concern of all the power usage and I

01:30:22.360 --> 01:30:26.360
think we would have to I think we would have to have a valid use case

01:30:26.360 --> 01:30:30.360
for the coin I think we would have to have a real purpose

01:30:30.360 --> 01:30:34.360
but then it's not a shit coin is that right well I mean

01:30:34.360 --> 01:30:38.360
what is that technology really that means that it's like a alt coin

01:30:38.360 --> 01:30:42.360
that's not a theory of or like one of the big ones anyways like some

01:30:42.360 --> 01:30:46.360
random garbage thing that may be a legitimate coin but nobody really

01:30:46.360 --> 01:30:50.360
uses it for anything and it's mostly just you know crypto bro trading garbage I don't

01:30:50.360 --> 01:30:54.360
know I you can make a lot of money with those like a lot of money with oh dude I

01:30:54.360 --> 01:30:58.360
know you can also lose a lot of money on them yeah like my 350

01:30:58.360 --> 01:31:02.360
bitcoin which are somewhere I mean we've talked about that a lot yeah somewhere sorry

01:31:02.360 --> 01:31:06.360
Dan that's okay I I sleep at night now

01:31:06.360 --> 01:31:10.360
far coin is he doesn't say well I sleep now yeah

01:31:10.360 --> 01:31:14.360
no I've been doing this in 2009 far coins down 60% in the last month

01:31:14.360 --> 01:31:18.360
whoops yeah well this is the thing you know if you're talking about your

01:31:18.360 --> 01:31:22.360
investment pyramid your crypto stuff is like up here

01:31:22.360 --> 01:31:26.360
where you maybe put 500 bucks in and the bottom is just like banks

01:31:26.360 --> 01:31:30.360
right yeah it's it's the highest controllers the highest risk

01:31:30.360 --> 01:31:32.360
investment that you could possibly

01:31:34.360 --> 01:31:38.360
someone in the pre-show pointed out that my my gold xbox

01:31:38.360 --> 01:31:42.360
controller has gone up by what do you say like 80 85% or something since I bought it

01:31:42.360 --> 01:31:46.360
pretty much yeah I'm not necessarily

01:31:46.360 --> 01:31:48.360
convinced at this time that there is

01:31:50.360 --> 01:31:54.360
an ethical way to launch one of these unless you give it good proper utility

01:31:54.360 --> 01:31:58.360
what if the utility was

01:31:58.360 --> 01:32:02.360
and even then I don't know enough to really say but I feel like that's aiming

01:32:02.360 --> 01:32:06.360
in the right direction what if you could redeem drop coin for

01:32:06.360 --> 01:32:10.360
a for early access to products on LTT Store

01:32:10.360 --> 01:32:14.360
if you could use it to buy stuff on LTT Store then you would assign an actual

01:32:14.360 --> 01:32:18.360
monetary value to it and it would be pegged against the US dollar but oh don't

01:32:18.360 --> 01:32:22.360
start talking you're not talking about like tether and stuff now are you tether is

01:32:22.360 --> 01:32:26.360
what real currency forex is and all coins are technically tied to tether

01:32:26.360 --> 01:32:30.360
didn't know but didn't the whole tether thing blow up at some point

01:32:30.360 --> 01:32:34.360
I don't know or is tether still not money is fake

01:32:34.360 --> 01:32:38.360
money is a concept anything that has a potential value

01:32:38.360 --> 01:32:42.360
like your gold controller is technically currency

01:32:42.360 --> 01:32:46.360
what about eggs now that's an investment these days

01:32:46.360 --> 01:32:48.360
egg controller let's go

01:32:50.360 --> 01:32:54.360
sticky oh boy egg

01:32:54.360 --> 01:32:58.360
egg coin yeah sure what are we supposed to be talking about at this point

01:32:58.360 --> 01:33:02.360
I don't know why don't we do some merch messages sure sure sure sure sure

01:33:02.360 --> 01:33:06.360
buy some merch with drop coin drop coin

01:33:06.360 --> 01:33:10.360
well I hope drop coin isn't a real thing hold on let me just make sure

01:33:10.360 --> 01:33:14.360
drop coin isn't a real thing are we accidentally endorsing something

01:33:14.360 --> 01:33:18.360
oh crap I think it's a thing we were joking

01:33:18.360 --> 01:33:22.360
is this real I can't number 5658

01:33:22.360 --> 01:33:26.360
in category meme

01:33:26.360 --> 01:33:30.360
we lack accurate trading data okay I don't think this I don't think it's real I think it's just like

01:33:30.360 --> 01:33:34.360
whether it is or not yeah don't do it don't do it don't do it just stay away

01:33:34.360 --> 01:33:38.360
it's it's the 5658

01:33:38.360 --> 01:33:42.360
most popular meme coin please no stop

01:33:42.360 --> 01:33:46.360
we have nothing to do with that hey Trump coins down

01:33:46.360 --> 01:33:50.360
no I'm serious I winked there as a joke that means it's on sale

01:33:50.360 --> 01:33:54.360
we have nothing to do with it no we have nothing to do with it it's not us

01:33:54.360 --> 01:33:58.360
I didn't even know it was real oh my goodness

01:33:58.360 --> 01:34:02.360
AJ this guy says investing my life savings

01:34:02.360 --> 01:34:06.360
right away stop lying you're gonna destroy my pet foilio

01:34:06.360 --> 01:34:10.360
please insider trading you did it you did it

01:34:10.360 --> 01:34:12.360
put crypto in the handbook

01:34:16.360 --> 01:34:20.360
oh man I didn't even write the handbook okay

01:34:20.360 --> 01:34:24.360
I've never read it that was too real man

01:34:24.360 --> 01:34:28.360
cool now I can start putting plugs in the wancho to be clear someone has

01:34:28.360 --> 01:34:32.360
read I'm pretty sure that's all included

01:34:32.360 --> 01:34:36.360
okay what are merch messages Linus

01:34:36.360 --> 01:34:40.360
I think you did the announcement yeah merch messages are the way to interact

01:34:40.360 --> 01:34:44.360
with the show and if you've ever wanted to know if it's a good week to

01:34:44.360 --> 01:34:48.360
send a merch message this is a good week to send a merch message

01:34:48.360 --> 01:34:52.360
you might want to pick up a commuter backpack like now

01:34:52.360 --> 01:34:56.360
if you want to get one because we have no idea what is going on with tariffs

01:34:56.360 --> 01:35:00.360
and trade wars and all of that beyond the next very short

01:35:00.360 --> 01:35:04.360
period of time and over the next very short period of time

01:35:04.360 --> 01:35:08.360
our warehouse is running over time to get as many orders out as possible

01:35:08.360 --> 01:35:12.360
that's why we didn't launch anything this week because we're working to clear out the backlog

01:35:12.360 --> 01:35:16.360
so get an order in for a commuter bag or anything else you like on LTTstore.com

01:35:16.360 --> 01:35:20.360
and while you're at it in the cart there will be a message or a box

01:35:20.360 --> 01:35:24.360
to send a merch message that's how you interact with the show it'll go to producer Dan

01:35:24.360 --> 01:35:28.360
who will pop it up down there or who will reply to it with his little fingies

01:35:28.360 --> 01:35:32.360
or who will curate it for me and Luke to address

01:35:32.360 --> 01:35:36.360
Dan why don't we show the people how it works Sure

01:35:36.360 --> 01:35:40.360
this one here's from Jacob Planning to order the big LTT backpack

01:35:40.360 --> 01:35:44.360
but was curious is there a version 2 of it coming soon

01:35:44.360 --> 01:35:48.360
is it best to hold off? We would love to revise

01:35:48.360 --> 01:35:52.360
the OG backpack at some point but what I will say is that

01:35:52.360 --> 01:35:56.360
currently we are not even at the design stage of a revision

01:35:56.360 --> 01:36:00.360
so we haven't drawn it

01:36:00.360 --> 01:36:04.360
we haven't sampled anything so with that said

01:36:04.360 --> 01:36:08.360
it will be at least 6 months away probably more

01:36:10.360 --> 01:36:14.360
Product development, it takes time 2.5 years

01:36:14.360 --> 01:36:18.360
That was only the screwdriver that was just that one thing

01:36:18.360 --> 01:36:22.360
6 months plus 2.5 years that you give

01:36:24.360 --> 01:36:28.360
Was the badminton center opening? Oh, Dan's wrong

01:36:28.360 --> 01:36:32.360
all the courts are in It's open

01:36:32.360 --> 01:36:36.360
It had an official launch? I mean it's open

01:36:36.360 --> 01:36:40.360
People can buy memberships right now we have between play memberships

01:36:40.360 --> 01:36:44.360
and premium memberships we have over 500 members The gym's not done, does that still count?

01:36:44.360 --> 01:36:48.360
What do you mean the gym's not done? We're waiting on like 2.5 pound weights

01:36:48.360 --> 01:36:52.360
Yeah, people are using it Nothing's ever done

01:36:52.360 --> 01:36:56.360
Yeah, they love it Actually I've gotten a lot of

01:36:56.360 --> 01:37:00.360
really good feedback on the gym Luke helped consult on the gym at Smash Champs

01:37:00.360 --> 01:37:04.360
and the reviews are in and people flipping

01:37:04.360 --> 01:37:08.360
love the gym That's good, I'm happy to hear that

01:37:08.360 --> 01:37:12.360
There was some things I was like strong

01:37:12.360 --> 01:37:16.360
strong-arming and I was like I don't know

01:37:16.360 --> 01:37:20.360
I was like I feel pretty strongly about this but we'll see what other people think

01:37:20.360 --> 01:37:24.360
It's really good I've had people say

01:37:24.360 --> 01:37:28.360
it is shockingly real gym

01:37:28.360 --> 01:37:32.360
for a racquet sports club

01:37:32.360 --> 01:37:36.360
If someone told me there was a gym upstairs at a racquet sports club

01:37:36.360 --> 01:37:40.360
I'd be like okay there's like a treadmill

01:37:40.360 --> 01:37:44.360
and a couple random assorted dumbbells in the corner

01:37:44.360 --> 01:37:48.360
maybe an exercise ball but then we have like an actual

01:37:48.360 --> 01:37:52.360
real one Do you watch fitness youtubers and then named some?

01:37:52.360 --> 01:37:56.360
Yes, I do, both of those actually and many others

01:37:56.360 --> 01:38:00.360
Here, let me Let me see if there's

01:38:00.360 --> 01:38:04.360
do we have any pictures on the Facebook page That's kind of where we post our stuff

01:38:04.360 --> 01:38:08.360
Dan was closer than you were Oh, 100%

01:38:08.360 --> 01:38:12.360
I still feel like I'm right but I can't say why 100%

01:38:12.360 --> 01:38:16.360
Luke knows why and I've been smiling all weekend

01:38:16.360 --> 01:38:20.360
It's changed a fair bit since then

01:38:20.360 --> 01:38:24.360
So don't bother commenting like too much about it There's a couple more

01:38:24.360 --> 01:38:28.360
cardio machines and all of this stuff

01:38:28.360 --> 01:38:32.360
is like completely shuffled around That picture makes it actually kind of hard to see

01:38:32.360 --> 01:38:36.360
some of the equipment That's not a great picture

01:38:36.360 --> 01:38:40.360
Dan, hit me again I'm over it

01:38:40.360 --> 01:38:44.360
As a fellow ADHDer this phrase of yours hits close

01:38:44.360 --> 01:38:48.360
but I often feel guilty admitting I've lost interest in X

01:38:48.360 --> 01:38:52.360
be it just after three minutes, an hour, or a month ever felt similar

01:38:52.360 --> 01:38:54.360
I did but now I'm over it

01:38:56.360 --> 01:39:00.360
I have as I have had

01:39:00.360 --> 01:39:04.360
less and less time in my life

01:39:04.360 --> 01:39:08.360
I have more and more embraced clear, honest communication

01:39:08.360 --> 01:39:12.360
Luke has experienced this numerous times

01:39:12.360 --> 01:39:16.360
where we're like hanging out on the couch

01:39:16.360 --> 01:39:20.360
or standing, chatting

01:39:20.360 --> 01:39:24.360
at the door as he's leaving I'm just like, I'm tired

01:39:24.360 --> 01:39:26.360
and I need to go to bed now

01:39:28.360 --> 01:39:32.360
Which is completely fine to be honest

01:39:32.360 --> 01:39:36.360
Because people don't know when a conversation's over They don't know when to leave your house

01:39:36.360 --> 01:39:40.360
They don't know if what they're talking about

01:39:40.360 --> 01:39:44.360
is a mutually interesting subject

01:39:44.360 --> 01:39:48.360
Unless you tell them When you're a kid, it's easy

01:39:48.360 --> 01:39:52.360
My mom's going to pick me up at nine or whatever It's like, okay, I leave at nine

01:39:52.360 --> 01:39:56.360
Especially with people that you have frequently stayed up until

01:39:56.360 --> 01:40:00.360
ridiculous hours with Now it's like, I don't know

01:40:00.360 --> 01:40:04.360
Who knows where the line is You just lay out your lines

01:40:04.360 --> 01:40:08.360
And really for me, it's about saving

01:40:08.360 --> 01:40:12.360
effort and brain space for the other person as well

01:40:12.360 --> 01:40:16.360
I don't even think about it I asked Yvonne something the other day

01:40:16.360 --> 01:40:20.360
It was to do with cash burn rate on

01:40:20.360 --> 01:40:24.360
some endeavor or other and she goes, oh, well, I would have to

01:40:24.360 --> 01:40:28.360
check in with the accounting department and then I would have to check in with the manager

01:40:28.360 --> 01:40:32.360
and I'd have to do this and I'm like, I'm over it Sometimes

01:40:32.360 --> 01:40:36.360
It's not even my disinterest It's a matter of me weighing

01:40:36.360 --> 01:40:40.360
That's a lot of your time My level of interest against the amount of

01:40:40.360 --> 01:40:44.360
effort that you are telegraphing will be involved in it

01:40:44.360 --> 01:40:48.360
And so If anything, I'm trying to do that more

01:40:48.360 --> 01:40:52.360
I don't take offense by it at all Some people don't get it, though

01:40:52.360 --> 01:40:56.360
They think that I'm just trying to be nice or something

01:40:56.360 --> 01:41:00.360
But for me, it really is about clear and direct communication

01:41:00.360 --> 01:41:04.360
When I say I'm over it, I mean do not burn a single

01:41:04.360 --> 01:41:08.360
additional cycle on this Give it no more thought

01:41:08.360 --> 01:41:12.360
because I won't And I'm the one who asked

01:41:12.360 --> 01:41:16.360
And one of the ways too is if you're someone's employee

01:41:16.360 --> 01:41:20.360
and you're receiving that type of communication they are clearly communicating that

01:41:20.360 --> 01:41:24.360
they do not value you spending your time on that

01:41:24.360 --> 01:41:28.360
which is not good You know?

01:41:28.360 --> 01:41:32.360
So keep that in mind They don't want to waste your time

01:41:32.360 --> 01:41:36.360
working on that, so if you go and then do that then it will very likely be seen

01:41:36.360 --> 01:41:40.360
as a negative thing, not a positive thing I actually get

01:41:40.360 --> 01:41:44.360
probably more frustrated than I should

01:41:44.360 --> 01:41:48.360
I think that's true When I say

01:41:48.360 --> 01:41:52.360
I had something a little while ago where I was like

01:41:52.360 --> 01:41:56.360
Hey, I forgot X in place Y

01:41:56.360 --> 01:42:00.360
If person A happens to be going by there

01:42:00.360 --> 01:42:04.360
could they grab it for me otherwise

01:42:04.360 --> 01:42:08.360
do nothing And they'll go way out of their way

01:42:08.360 --> 01:42:12.360
And I had multiple people reach out with these

01:42:12.360 --> 01:42:16.360
roundabout plans for how they were going to reunite me with

01:42:16.360 --> 01:42:20.360
item X from location Y when person A was not

01:42:20.360 --> 01:42:24.360
going to go by I'm like

01:42:24.360 --> 01:42:26.360
I proactively

01:42:28.360 --> 01:42:32.360
For the sake of complete clarity said if condition A

01:42:32.360 --> 01:42:36.360
is not met take no action

01:42:38.360 --> 01:42:42.360
You ignored my explicit instructions which is now

01:42:42.360 --> 01:42:46.360
costing me additional time and brain cycles

01:42:46.360 --> 01:42:50.360
mitigating the wheels that are now in action

01:42:50.360 --> 01:42:54.360
to take these actions that I didn't want

01:42:54.360 --> 01:42:56.360
and I explicitly said I didn't want

01:42:58.360 --> 01:43:02.360
Please don't If I say don't do something

01:43:02.360 --> 01:43:06.360
please never do it But you know what's frustrating

01:43:06.360 --> 01:43:10.360
and this is why I acknowledge that I get

01:43:10.360 --> 01:43:14.360
sort of irrationally frustrated by it because so many people

01:43:14.360 --> 01:43:18.360
are not like me and do say

01:43:18.360 --> 01:43:22.360
Oh, don't worry about it but what they really want

01:43:22.360 --> 01:43:26.360
is for you to show how much you care and how you're willing to do it anyway

01:43:26.360 --> 01:43:30.360
And that's super annoying but what you're doing is kind of like the opposite of that

01:43:30.360 --> 01:43:34.360
just being more open which

01:43:34.360 --> 01:43:38.360
But tonality is hard especially in text

01:43:38.360 --> 01:43:42.360
and depending on people's relationships in the past

01:43:42.360 --> 01:43:46.360
they can perceive someone's actions a completely different way

01:43:46.360 --> 01:43:50.360
through a completely different colored lens depending

01:43:50.360 --> 01:43:54.360
on those experiences so the exact same words

01:43:54.360 --> 01:43:58.360
coming from two different people can mean the exact same thing

01:43:58.360 --> 01:44:02.360
when I say those words I mean do not take this action

01:44:02.360 --> 01:44:06.360
when someone else says those exact same words they can mean show me how much you love me

01:44:06.360 --> 01:44:10.360
by taking this action even though I told you it's okay

01:44:10.360 --> 01:44:14.360
and so people get this completely different interpretation and that's something that we just have to deal with

01:44:14.360 --> 01:44:18.360
and so recognize that it is something

01:44:18.360 --> 01:44:22.360
that I get irrationally frustrated about and so I try to be

01:44:22.360 --> 01:44:26.360
I go out of my way to try to be more patient

01:44:26.360 --> 01:44:30.360
about it but I know that what I'm feeling is not

01:44:30.360 --> 01:44:34.360
rational but it doesn't change that I feel it

01:44:34.360 --> 01:44:38.360
because I've had that conversation 500 times

01:44:38.360 --> 01:44:42.360
not with that person but 500 times total

01:44:42.360 --> 01:44:46.360
and that's the baggage that I bring to the situation I had

01:44:46.360 --> 01:44:50.360
I've told you this I've told a bunch of other people this too

01:44:50.360 --> 01:44:54.360
I use chat GPT often for communication but I don't use it to write my communication

01:44:54.360 --> 01:44:58.360
I use it to get feedback on my communication so I'll like

01:44:58.360 --> 01:45:02.360
send a message or an email or something that I would be sending out to chat GPT

01:45:02.360 --> 01:45:06.360
and I ask it for a sentiment analysis and sometimes I'll give it more prompting

01:45:06.360 --> 01:45:08.360
but more or less I'm doing a sentiment analysis

01:45:10.360 --> 01:45:14.360
and I have one on the lab team

01:45:14.360 --> 01:45:18.360
I keep them anonymous that I was going to send an angry email

01:45:18.360 --> 01:45:22.360
to another company that I will also not name because I was like

01:45:22.360 --> 01:45:26.360
fairly enraged about a thing that was happening NVIDIA

01:45:26.360 --> 01:45:30.360
I actually don't know I'm just

01:45:30.360 --> 01:45:34.360
I think he'll laugh regardless so it should be fine yeah

01:45:34.360 --> 01:45:38.360
and then and I said I was like sending it right now

01:45:38.360 --> 01:45:42.360
and they were going to be CC'd on it and then it didn't come out for a while

01:45:42.360 --> 01:45:46.360
and then like a few hours later it finally came out because

01:45:46.360 --> 01:45:50.360
I wrote it up and then didn't press send and read it myself

01:45:50.360 --> 01:45:54.360
and was like and I

01:45:54.360 --> 01:45:58.360
I cut the email out I went and worked on something else for a while

01:45:58.360 --> 01:46:02.360
let myself just like kind of chill for a little bit and then I rewrote it again

01:46:02.360 --> 01:46:06.360
and then I put it into chat GPT and I was like

01:46:06.360 --> 01:46:10.360
still angry let me keep working on this for a second

01:46:10.360 --> 01:46:14.360
and then I finally sent one out and a little while later they sent me a message

01:46:14.360 --> 01:46:18.360
and they were like that was a lot more chill than I expected and I was like yeah

01:46:22.360 --> 01:46:26.360
yeah I just had to reframe that a little bit

01:46:26.360 --> 01:46:30.360
I don't know I think I'm in my zero f***s given phase and I just like kind of write angry

01:46:30.360 --> 01:46:34.360
emails when I'm really angry I still do that sometimes yeah depends on the

01:46:34.360 --> 01:46:38.360
scenario depends on how understandable

01:46:38.360 --> 01:46:42.360
the situation is because in this one I was very frustrated

01:46:42.360 --> 01:46:46.360
because of the impact on our side I understood how it could

01:46:46.360 --> 01:46:50.360
have been going that way from their side but yeah it also depends on

01:46:50.360 --> 01:46:54.360
whether the person you're talking to had any control of the situation

01:46:54.360 --> 01:46:58.360
yes and this person I feel like did have a lot of care

01:46:58.360 --> 01:47:02.360
and was trying to get things fixed so like raging at them was genuinely

01:47:02.360 --> 01:47:06.360
not going to be helpful to anyone it was really a malicious action

01:47:06.360 --> 01:47:10.360
and that person has a high degree of control over the situation

01:47:10.360 --> 01:47:14.360
my patience is a lot lower absolutely

01:47:14.360 --> 01:47:18.360
yeah yeah

01:47:18.360 --> 01:47:22.360
okay how about Luke being really angry is unsettling

01:47:22.360 --> 01:47:26.360
the Channel Super Fun when it was unleashed what channel

01:47:26.360 --> 01:47:28.360
super fun

01:47:30.360 --> 01:47:34.360
ooh I'm not sure I've only on camera that many times

01:47:34.360 --> 01:47:36.360
there's a hike

01:47:40.360 --> 01:47:44.360
yeah there's that one oh that is the Channel Super Fun that you guys are talking about

01:47:44.360 --> 01:47:48.360
no that's not a Channel Super Fun though I don't know what they're talking about

01:47:48.360 --> 01:47:52.360
this is the face of a man who is

01:47:52.360 --> 01:47:56.360
extremely put out yeah

01:47:56.360 --> 01:47:58.360
it is fine

01:48:02.360 --> 01:48:06.360
I genuinely don't know what Channel Super Fun is talking about though ah there was the time you like

01:48:06.360 --> 01:48:10.360
chased me and pretended to be angry I wasn't actually mad

01:48:10.360 --> 01:48:14.360
and I wasn't actually fearful it was just really funny

01:48:14.360 --> 01:48:18.360
it was fun oh when they robbed the Langley house

01:48:18.360 --> 01:48:22.360
yeah I was in that though you were in on that one sorry sorry

01:48:22.360 --> 01:48:26.360
no it was Berkel who was extremely angry yeah and I was feeding off that energy

01:48:26.360 --> 01:48:30.360
I ran with him I remember so what you guys didn't know at that time

01:48:30.360 --> 01:48:34.360
was he was out downstairs so I couldn't have pulled off

01:48:34.360 --> 01:48:38.360
the prank without him being an accomplice yeah and if I remember correctly

01:48:38.360 --> 01:48:42.360
Berkel had this inkling that they were trying to flee

01:48:42.360 --> 01:48:46.360
out of like the downstairs so he like ran he didn't have an inkling he saw

01:48:46.360 --> 01:48:50.360
oh right yeah we had because one other member of the team

01:48:50.360 --> 01:48:54.360
was also in on it who's not who's not on the team anymore

01:48:54.360 --> 01:48:58.360
but they were in on it and they played the role of like the robber

01:48:58.360 --> 01:49:02.360
with like a thing pulled over their face so that no one would recognize them

01:49:02.360 --> 01:49:06.360
and like booked it out the back of the house so Berkel went to go like

01:49:06.360 --> 01:49:10.360
chase after them and I was just that energy was awesome

01:49:10.360 --> 01:49:14.360
so I just went with him but we went through like my area and it's

01:49:14.360 --> 01:49:18.360
I had to like open doors from his stuff and I was like oh let's go and I was totally with it

01:49:18.360 --> 01:49:22.360
dude I fear for anyone he would have caught

01:49:22.360 --> 01:49:26.360
yeah Berkel was ready to go well you know he punched me at the end right

01:49:26.360 --> 01:49:30.360
I don't remember that it was only in the ARM but it was like

01:49:30.360 --> 01:49:34.360
not soft yeah I think he just

01:49:34.360 --> 01:49:38.360
needed to get that energy out probably and you know what I don't even begrudge

01:49:38.360 --> 01:49:42.360
the guy like it hurt but like

01:49:44.360 --> 01:49:48.360
I ironed it that's funny

01:49:48.360 --> 01:49:52.360
yeah oh man okay

01:49:52.360 --> 01:49:54.360
crazy thought

01:49:55.360 --> 01:49:59.360
when would be the right time to do an LMG reunion

01:50:00.360 --> 01:50:04.360
I don't even mean like public like you guys wouldn't get a video about it or anything

01:50:04.360 --> 01:50:08.360
that'd be weird it's a lot of people now it's a ton we've been operating

01:50:08.360 --> 01:50:12.360
for long time 12 years yeah

01:50:12.360 --> 01:50:16.360
yeah it's crazy some of the group for longer but the company

01:50:16.360 --> 01:50:20.360
LMG 12 years yeah when would be the right time and to be clear

01:50:20.360 --> 01:50:24.360
20 I'm talking about I'm talking about

01:50:24.360 --> 01:50:28.360
like zero held back invitations literally everyone

01:50:30.360 --> 01:50:34.360
I mean I'm sure there's some people that wouldn't dare show their face at this point but

01:50:34.360 --> 01:50:38.360
I would invite them I would invite them I wouldn't discriminate no

01:50:40.360 --> 01:50:44.360
when would be the right time I don't know

01:50:44.360 --> 01:50:48.360
what if someone was an employee and now they are a contractor for us

01:50:48.360 --> 01:50:52.360
well no anyone currently at the company would obviously be invited

01:50:52.360 --> 01:50:54.360
okay yeah yeah yeah

01:50:56.360 --> 01:50:58.360
never

01:51:00.360 --> 01:51:04.360
I don't know like what's the point what are we gaining from that

01:51:04.360 --> 01:51:08.360
I mean nothing it'd be fun would it I don't know maybe

01:51:08.360 --> 01:51:12.360
I wouldn't mind catching up with people like I some people absolutely yeah well you don't have to

01:51:12.360 --> 01:51:16.360
talk to all of them they might talk to you

01:51:16.360 --> 01:51:20.360
sorry they might talk to you I'm talking about you I'm asking you

01:51:20.360 --> 01:51:24.360
they might talk to me there are definitely people that I would love to

01:51:24.360 --> 01:51:28.360
sync up with again but it sounds like there's also people that you wouldn't love to sync up with

01:51:28.360 --> 01:51:32.360
so much I think that would be fine I think you could communicate with them directly you could just say I'm done

01:51:32.360 --> 01:51:36.360
with this conversation now thank you I'm tired I'm going to bed

01:51:38.360 --> 01:51:42.360
just leave that is actually what I do though

01:51:42.360 --> 01:51:46.360
yeah yeah yeah I'm really tired good night I'll just leave

01:51:46.360 --> 01:51:50.360
I think it's fair just say I'm over it

01:51:50.360 --> 01:51:54.360
just laid out on the ground I don't know if that's a specific reference or not

01:51:54.360 --> 01:51:58.360
but that was the thing that my brother started in our household at one point

01:51:58.360 --> 01:52:02.360
which is at a certain point like you know we were both playing

01:52:02.360 --> 01:52:06.360
a lot of sports my brother especially was was big he was into football he worked

01:52:06.360 --> 01:52:10.360
out a lot we were both big and my mom would

01:52:10.360 --> 01:52:14.360
like try to get him to do something and he was just laid out on the ground and be like

01:52:14.360 --> 01:52:18.360
make me what are you going to do

01:52:18.360 --> 01:52:22.360
because we hit the point we're like we're playing all these

01:52:22.360 --> 01:52:26.360
contact sports all the time so like imagine

01:52:26.360 --> 01:52:30.360
you can break your wooden spoon all you want it's not going to do anything

01:52:30.360 --> 01:52:34.360
like literally at all so have fun

01:52:34.360 --> 01:52:38.360
and then you know eventually get up and do it anyways but because mom's cool but like

01:52:40.360 --> 01:52:44.360
yeah yeah that was I don't know if that's a reference to that or not

01:52:44.360 --> 01:52:48.360
because I'm pretty sure I've told that story before but for what it's worth Yvonne is also

01:52:48.360 --> 01:52:52.360
proposed also proposed also opposed to the no conditional

01:52:52.360 --> 01:52:56.360
invitation oh yeah it's a terrible idea unconditional invitation reunion

01:52:56.360 --> 01:53:00.360
horrible idea that she said the same thing you did why

01:53:00.360 --> 01:53:04.360
what's the point what's the what's the game I don't know what your brother's bigger than you

01:53:04.360 --> 01:53:08.360
uh it's complicated we're very

01:53:08.360 --> 01:53:12.360
different like forms in mass

01:53:12.360 --> 01:53:16.360
I'd say they're fairly similar I think so yeah my brother was always

01:53:16.360 --> 01:53:20.360
bigger like stronger he's really fast somehow um

01:53:20.360 --> 01:53:24.360
but he was a fullback in football he had way more muscle than me even now he'll come

01:53:24.360 --> 01:53:28.360
to the gym I would have to not going to the gym and like forever and just lift crazy weight

01:53:28.360 --> 01:53:32.360
it's ridiculous he was always really really strong and I was generally

01:53:32.360 --> 01:53:36.360
fast we were like built very differently and it was always

01:53:36.360 --> 01:53:40.360
frustrating how fast he was because I was like you're built so differently than me I should be

01:53:40.360 --> 01:53:44.360
so much faster than you but compared to how stronger he was compared to me

01:53:44.360 --> 01:53:48.360
and how much faster I was than him it was like not the ratio was

01:53:48.360 --> 01:53:52.360
not good in my favor okay hold on VNG supernova says one is

01:53:52.360 --> 01:53:56.360
Machamp and one is Hitmon Lee hold on I want to know which one is which

01:53:56.360 --> 01:54:00.360
here I don't I don't remember these Pokemon yeah kind of

01:54:00.360 --> 01:54:04.360
okay hold on here we go uh no

01:54:04.360 --> 01:54:08.360
Luke Luke no offense Luke but you are not of that build

01:54:08.360 --> 01:54:12.360
what would that build be this is this is more like this is more

01:54:12.360 --> 01:54:16.360
like uh like uh uh I don't know what's his nuts

01:54:16.360 --> 01:54:20.360
that uh because we're talking high school not now yeah this guy

01:54:20.360 --> 01:54:24.360
I'd say this that's like he's like at that

01:54:24.360 --> 01:54:28.360
oh yeah no I'm yeah no yeah like that but that that's a Hitmon Lee build like

01:54:28.360 --> 01:54:32.360
no no yeah that's like that's like a lean like UFC fighter build

01:54:32.360 --> 01:54:36.360
yeah yeah no offense he's he's he's too ripped

01:54:36.360 --> 01:54:40.360
you didn't know me when I was in high school though you have no idea really

01:54:40.360 --> 01:54:44.360
uh and I okay no I'd say you're probably the Machamp then

01:54:44.360 --> 01:54:48.360
I don't know what I would compare your brother to okay uh all

01:54:48.360 --> 01:54:52.360
fight pokemon okay here we go

01:54:52.360 --> 01:54:56.360
Lucario Lucario's a fighting type yeah

01:54:56.360 --> 01:55:00.360
we're gonna go pretty like no no no

01:55:00.360 --> 01:55:04.360
manky manky don't don't think so oh this is not bad

01:55:04.360 --> 01:55:08.360
this is not bad yeah that that could be rich

01:55:08.360 --> 01:55:12.360
he's like for reference or people watching there was one time that there was a barn

01:55:12.360 --> 01:55:16.360
on fire he this was back when he was a poly wrath or poly wrath

01:55:16.360 --> 01:55:20.360
I could see poly wrath yeah uh there's one time there's a barn on fire

01:55:20.360 --> 01:55:24.360
this is when he was a volunteer firefighter and he's now a full-time firefighter

01:55:24.360 --> 01:55:28.360
um but there was animals in the barn and they couldn't get the door open

01:55:28.360 --> 01:55:32.360
and this frustrated Richard he did not like this

01:55:32.360 --> 01:55:36.360
situation because there was animals in the barn and the animals needed to no longer

01:55:36.360 --> 01:55:40.360
be in the barn so Richard ran through the wall

01:55:40.360 --> 01:55:44.360
in order to solve the problem and it worked it worked

01:55:44.360 --> 01:55:48.360
it was great so

01:55:48.360 --> 01:55:52.360
he was uh he played football up here

01:55:52.360 --> 01:55:56.360
uh it is pretty common for like American football players if they don't quite make it to the

01:55:56.360 --> 01:56:00.360
NFL or if they need to be take a step back from the NFL or whatever

01:56:00.360 --> 01:56:04.360
they'll come up and play for the CFL the Canadian Football League it is not super common

01:56:04.360 --> 01:56:08.360
for Canadian players to go play for uh down in the states

01:56:08.360 --> 01:56:12.360
my brother got a full ride if I remember correctly it was a full ride

01:56:12.360 --> 01:56:16.360
some form of scholarship to an American school to play football as a fullback

01:56:16.360 --> 01:56:20.360
didn't make to the NFL but that is just like unheard of

01:56:20.360 --> 01:56:24.360
he was crazy very strong him running through a wall

01:56:24.360 --> 01:56:28.360
was not super surprising for me when I heard it and I was like yes this sounds

01:56:28.360 --> 01:56:32.360
reasonable and appropriate for

01:56:32.360 --> 01:56:36.360
if I remember correctly he got yelled at for it but they were also like

01:56:36.360 --> 01:56:38.360
but also that was kind of cool

01:56:40.360 --> 01:56:44.360
it was pretty sick okay

01:56:44.360 --> 01:56:48.360
tacky the penguin says Khabib overrated that can't be true right isn't he like

01:56:48.360 --> 01:56:52.360
undefeated well he left the he stopped fighting

01:56:52.360 --> 01:56:56.360
yeah so you're allowed to retire at some point aren't you

01:56:56.360 --> 01:57:00.360
oh no well yeah but I don't think he had like a crazy

01:57:00.360 --> 01:57:04.360
I don't follow that stuff I don't think he had a crazy amount of fights

01:57:04.360 --> 01:57:08.360
but I don't think he's uh with 29 wins and zero losses

01:57:08.360 --> 01:57:12.360
he retired with an undefeated record I don't think he's overrated

01:57:12.360 --> 01:57:16.360
yeah okay he isn't good till he loses to a Paul

01:57:16.360 --> 01:57:20.360
brother okay come on and everyone knows it's gonna be a draw

01:57:20.360 --> 01:57:24.360
yeah it'll probably be one of the Paul brothers

01:57:24.360 --> 01:57:28.360
illegitimate sons by that point sorry what are we talking about Dan

01:57:28.360 --> 01:57:32.360
I don't know how we got on this topic that was a merch message from 20 minutes ago

01:57:32.360 --> 01:57:36.360
do some more topics neat uh okay

01:57:36.360 --> 01:57:40.360
why don't we do the future of tech channels source yeah

01:57:40.360 --> 01:57:44.360
I made it up nice

01:57:44.360 --> 01:57:48.360
I'm seeing a growing and justified trend

01:57:48.360 --> 01:57:52.360
of kind of anger toward tech reviewers for being able to get access to new technology

01:57:52.360 --> 01:57:56.360
that consumers struggle to get their hands on and I'm doing this topic out of order now

01:57:56.360 --> 01:58:00.360
let's do this first topic first and you thought MSRP

01:58:00.360 --> 01:58:04.360
was bad what the 5090 is hard to buy okay just to be clear

01:58:04.360 --> 01:58:08.360
just in case anyone else didn't follow that we have completely abandoned the previous time

01:58:08.360 --> 01:58:12.360
we have I'm over it and we're on to a new one

01:58:12.360 --> 01:58:16.360
I followed that I'm just making sure other people are also with us many users

01:58:16.360 --> 01:58:20.360
have been disappointed with the launch of the 50 series which offers

01:58:20.360 --> 01:58:24.360
underwhelming generational uplift over the 40 series while maintaining

01:58:24.360 --> 01:58:28.360
or in some cases exceeding the high pricing

01:58:28.360 --> 01:58:32.360
remember this wasn't that long ago the 3080's MSRP at launch

01:58:32.360 --> 01:58:36.360
was $699 and for a short

01:58:36.360 --> 01:58:40.360
glorious window of time it was actually available for around that price

01:58:40.360 --> 01:58:44.360
before the mining craze took off

01:58:44.360 --> 01:58:48.360
however for those who have been waiting

01:58:48.360 --> 01:58:52.360
a few generations for high end upgrade in spite of this awful pricing

01:58:52.360 --> 01:58:56.360
these cards are their only option especially with 40 series

01:58:56.360 --> 01:59:00.360
cards becoming scarce as NVIDIA ramped down production last year allegedly

01:59:00.360 --> 01:59:04.360
but here's the thing you can't get the cards

01:59:04.360 --> 01:59:08.360
even NVIDIA employees claim to be struggling to get them

01:59:10.360 --> 01:59:14.360
overclockers UK stated to take 16 weeks

01:59:14.360 --> 01:59:18.360
for them to deliver all of their 5090 pre-orders

01:59:18.360 --> 01:59:22.360
and all models of the GPUs are out of stock virtually everywhere

01:59:22.360 --> 01:59:26.360
this lack of availability has led to enthusiasts referring to the launch

01:59:26.360 --> 01:59:30.360
of the 50 series as a paper launch though that is not really what that term means

01:59:30.360 --> 01:59:34.360
a paper launch usually indicated a launch

01:59:34.360 --> 01:59:38.360
via the press months or at least weeks

01:59:38.360 --> 01:59:42.360
before the product was actually available for sale at all

01:59:42.360 --> 01:59:46.360
so I would say an example of a paper launch

01:59:48.360 --> 01:59:52.360
there was an AMD card back in the day I've got one in mind

01:59:52.360 --> 01:59:56.360
it was the 1900 XTX

01:59:56.360 --> 02:00:00.360
here we go X 1900 XTX

02:00:04.360 --> 02:00:08.360
I think this was the one or was it

02:00:08.360 --> 02:00:12.360
X 1950 XTX I don't remember

02:00:14.360 --> 02:00:18.360
yes this one

02:00:18.360 --> 02:00:22.360
the X 1950 XTX was basically

02:00:22.360 --> 02:00:26.360
functionally a non existent GPU

02:00:26.360 --> 02:00:30.360
wait is this the one ah you know what

02:00:30.360 --> 02:00:34.360
I forget basically a higher X, no

02:00:34.360 --> 02:00:38.360
X850 XT that's the one sorry sorry

02:00:38.360 --> 02:00:42.360
here we go ok so this Platinum Edition

02:00:42.360 --> 02:00:46.360
this stupid thing this thing functionally did not exist

02:00:46.360 --> 02:00:50.360
it was a overclocked

02:00:50.360 --> 02:00:54.360
super mega binned version of the X800 XT

02:00:54.360 --> 02:00:58.360
and there is no architectural

02:00:58.360 --> 02:01:02.360
difference blah blah blah but it is ever so slightly overclocked

02:01:02.360 --> 02:01:06.360
with a fancy tattoo on its

02:01:06.360 --> 02:01:10.360
fan shroud or whatever and essentially they like

02:01:10.360 --> 02:01:14.360
ship them to reviewers so that they could claim to have a competitive

02:01:14.360 --> 02:01:18.360
product in the halo tier and ship

02:01:18.360 --> 02:01:22.360
a small handful to retailers and then effectively it never existed again

02:01:22.360 --> 02:01:26.360
so that was where we started to refer to very

02:01:26.360 --> 02:01:30.360
low inventory launches as paper launches

02:01:30.360 --> 02:01:34.360
the 50 series is not a paper launch what it is is a launch

02:01:34.360 --> 02:01:38.360
with extremely limited availability especially as compared to the demand

02:01:38.360 --> 02:01:42.360
people do have them they're flipping them on ebay it's ridiculous

02:01:42.360 --> 02:01:46.360
it's crap but yeah

02:01:46.360 --> 02:01:50.360
got some more updates for you due to the demand for these chips and the limited supply it seems

02:01:50.360 --> 02:01:54.360
that add-in board partners are increasing their prices MSI

02:01:54.360 --> 02:01:58.360
has increased the prices of their entire lineup of out of stock 50 series GPUs

02:01:58.360 --> 02:02:02.360
and their sole 10C5080 model received a

02:02:02.360 --> 02:02:06.360
14% price increase to 1139.99

02:02:06.360 --> 02:02:10.360
and their sole MSRP 5090 is now going

02:02:10.360 --> 02:02:14.360
for 2379 that is a whopping $380 over MSRP

02:02:14.360 --> 02:02:18.360
ASUS not to be left out increased their prices

02:02:18.360 --> 02:02:22.360
with the ROG astral 5090 going from an already high

02:02:22.360 --> 02:02:26.360
2799 to a trippin balls 30

02:02:26.360 --> 02:02:30.360
79 yeesh

02:02:30.360 --> 02:02:34.360
and if you're thinking only 3079 dollars

02:02:34.360 --> 02:02:38.360
how am I ever going to flaunt my wealth ASUS has a gold version

02:02:38.360 --> 02:02:42.360
of the 5090 that is exclusive to the Middle East the 5090

02:02:42.360 --> 02:02:46.360
Dahab OC edition however unlike our gold xbox

02:02:46.360 --> 02:02:50.360
controller it is not made of real gold the absolute

02:02:50.360 --> 02:02:54.360
cowards let's see if I can find a picture of this thing it actually looks

02:02:54.360 --> 02:02:58.360
sick and I really want one there is absolutely no way

02:02:58.360 --> 02:03:02.360
there is no way that I would pay for it

02:03:02.360 --> 02:03:06.360
but that thing looks so cool our thing says

02:03:06.360 --> 02:03:10.360
we aren't sure that it's made of real gold I know it's not made of gold

02:03:10.360 --> 02:03:14.360
I'm just saying it's only like another thousand dollars there's no way it's made of gold

02:03:14.360 --> 02:03:16.360
you don't want a four hour video coming out about

02:03:18.360 --> 02:03:22.360
I'm just trying to keep an eye okay

02:03:22.360 --> 02:03:26.360
we're gonna make we're gonna be okay

02:03:32.360 --> 02:03:36.360
are we Luke chewy's going home already

02:03:38.360 --> 02:03:42.360
no chewy has to deal with all the problems on Fridays it's just Friday

02:03:42.360 --> 02:03:44.360
why are you the spicy one today

02:03:46.360 --> 02:03:50.360
should I make sure we don't say things that are wrong many are wondering

02:03:50.360 --> 02:03:54.360
why NVIDIA launched the new series with such low inventory

02:03:54.360 --> 02:03:58.360
and there are a number of factors that I could speculate are involved

02:03:58.360 --> 02:04:02.360
I would say the proximity to Chinese New Year probably isn't helping anything

02:04:02.360 --> 02:04:06.360
the ongoing threat slash enactment of tariffs could be playing a role

02:04:06.360 --> 02:04:10.360
in low availability I know that it's coming up the works in terms of the supply chain

02:04:10.360 --> 02:04:14.360
so our commuter bags were already delayed in their shipments

02:04:14.360 --> 02:04:18.360
before we stopped shipping them

02:04:18.360 --> 02:04:22.360
because of the tariffs the threat of tariffs had companies

02:04:22.360 --> 02:04:26.360
just like trying to jam as much goods into the US

02:04:26.360 --> 02:04:30.360
as possible and has led to big hold ups at the major ports

02:04:32.360 --> 02:04:36.360
by the way we are shipping commuter bags now so if you guys see people buying commuter bags

02:04:36.360 --> 02:04:40.360
the tariffs have been stayed and the de minimis exemption

02:04:40.360 --> 02:04:44.360
has been restored for now so we are pushing things out anyway

02:04:44.360 --> 02:04:48.360
another third contributor to NVIDIA's

02:04:48.360 --> 02:04:52.360
low stock would be let's see

02:04:52.360 --> 02:04:56.360
I'm Jensen Huang imagine I have a leather jacket

02:04:56.360 --> 02:05:00.360
nice good alligator I have this

02:05:00.360 --> 02:05:04.360
wafer from TSMC I have to

02:05:04.360 --> 02:05:08.360
share TSMC's manufacturing capacity with everyone else

02:05:10.360 --> 02:05:14.360
but I got this one what am I going to do with it

02:05:14.360 --> 02:05:18.360
hmm well I could make

02:05:18.360 --> 02:05:22.360
gaming GPUs I could do that or hear me out

02:05:22.360 --> 02:05:26.360
alternate pitch I could make AI GPUs

02:05:26.360 --> 02:05:30.360
and the gaming GPUs are worth how much I don't know it doesn't matter

02:05:30.360 --> 02:05:34.360
crap nothing and the AI GPUs are worth how much

02:05:34.360 --> 02:05:38.360
lots my shareholders loved it do the gamers like you? no

02:05:38.360 --> 02:05:42.360
do the AI people like you? they love me tough question

02:05:42.360 --> 02:05:46.360
um anyway oh no

02:05:46.360 --> 02:05:50.360
who wrote this topic okay anyway Linus Sebastian

02:05:50.360 --> 02:05:54.360
CVO of Linus Media Group and creator of YouTube channel Linus Tech Tips

02:05:54.360 --> 02:05:58.360
though says he is torn as to whether or not he will buy one

02:05:58.360 --> 02:06:02.360
elaborate though Linus don't spoil the results

02:06:02.360 --> 02:06:06.360
of the upcoming 4k and 8k videos please don't say if I'm buying one or not

02:06:06.360 --> 02:06:10.360
signed ploof I'm not going to get into it because that's kind

02:06:10.360 --> 02:06:14.360
of the premise for both of our 8k I'm very excited to watch and 4k gaming

02:06:14.360 --> 02:06:18.360
videos is both ploof and I went on the record before

02:06:18.360 --> 02:06:22.360
the launch saying if all the rumors are true we are buying one

02:06:22.360 --> 02:06:26.360
and now that it's launched I was telling

02:06:26.360 --> 02:06:30.360
people at CES that I was really excited for it and wanted to get one neither of us is certain

02:06:30.360 --> 02:06:34.360
or at least we weren't before we made those videos so I actually have no

02:06:34.360 --> 02:06:38.360
further comment on that I am not getting one I think it wants all the coming but still

02:06:38.360 --> 02:06:40.360
I wanted to get it because of

02:06:42.360 --> 02:06:46.360
you know almost like professional development but

02:06:46.360 --> 02:06:50.360
now I'm just talking to Darren about getting a cluster at work so

02:06:50.360 --> 02:06:52.360
you can buy it

02:06:54.360 --> 02:06:58.360
wow eat a dick you can use it too actually we might have

02:06:58.360 --> 02:07:02.360
a potential partner who wants to send us like an NVIDIA

02:07:02.360 --> 02:07:06.360
GPU server to like use for a few months is that long enough

02:07:06.360 --> 02:07:10.360
do you need it forever? I do want one long term

02:07:10.360 --> 02:07:14.360
but it would be like I would want it to power

02:07:14.360 --> 02:07:18.360
like inline IDE assistance for the developers in the lab and stuff like that

02:07:18.360 --> 02:07:22.360
like we it's not just like a tinker box for me like actually I'm serious

02:07:22.360 --> 02:07:26.360
I recruited Dan knows Luke tell us about your tinker box

02:07:28.360 --> 02:07:32.360
you don't want to hear about mine sometimes I use wephrase for things this is never going to change

02:07:32.360 --> 02:07:36.360
just calm it with that old reference when it checks out

02:07:36.360 --> 02:07:40.360
but no I recruited like Dan and AJ and Nick from the lab

02:07:40.360 --> 02:07:44.360
to all kind of consult on it and how we can properly use it at work

02:07:44.360 --> 02:07:48.360
and stuff like that cool anyway there's a couple other 50 series launch

02:07:48.360 --> 02:07:52.360
things it's wildly expensive American sticker shock is already bad

02:07:52.360 --> 02:07:56.360
imagine what it's like in Canada or Australia dude people are posting screenshots

02:07:56.360 --> 02:08:00.360
of Australian prices on this stuff and I'm just like $9,000 $50 90s what are we

02:08:00.360 --> 02:08:04.360
even doing here at this point and there's a note in here

02:08:04.360 --> 02:08:08.360
from Adam who wrote up this topic just so you guys

02:08:08.360 --> 02:08:12.360
know we're just as screwed as everyone else when it comes to getting these cards

02:08:12.360 --> 02:08:16.360
for personal use several employees tried buying at launch and only

02:08:16.360 --> 02:08:20.360
managed to snag either a 5080 or pre-orders for a 5090

02:08:20.360 --> 02:08:24.360
and no one has any idea when those pre-orders will be filled and I gotta say

02:08:24.360 --> 02:08:28.360
regardless of the outcome of the 8k and 4k gaming videos with Ploof

02:08:28.360 --> 02:08:32.360
because I have sort of become accustomed to buying things at launch

02:08:32.360 --> 02:08:36.360
like I just don't I don't really care like I'll just wait until later

02:08:36.360 --> 02:08:40.360
because like I I love gaming but I

02:08:40.360 --> 02:08:44.360
realistically I don't find as much time for it as I used to

02:08:44.360 --> 02:08:48.360
something like yeah whatever like if I need something I'll like get it later

02:08:48.360 --> 02:08:52.360
not to mention that over the years you know being a tech personality I have

02:08:52.360 --> 02:08:56.360
acquired many tech things but I have committed

02:08:56.360 --> 02:09:00.360
for NVIDIA GPUs I don't know how this kind of happened but I committed

02:09:00.360 --> 02:09:04.360
to not upgrade to 40 series either by buying it or by

02:09:04.360 --> 02:09:08.360
taking a sample nothing so I have not daily to 40

02:09:08.360 --> 02:09:12.360
series GPU and then for 50 series I basically said look

02:09:12.360 --> 02:09:16.360
if I'm going to if these are just as expensive as 40 series

02:09:16.360 --> 02:09:20.360
then the only way that I can

02:09:20.360 --> 02:09:24.360
reasonably justify finally upgrading is if I'm actually like spending money on it

02:09:24.360 --> 02:09:28.360
I'm not gonna just like take one I'm not just gonna take one that you guys could have had I'm gonna get out there

02:09:28.360 --> 02:09:32.360
I'm gonna have to actually like buy one so not being sort of

02:09:32.360 --> 02:09:36.360
used to fighting scalpers for things because I just don't need a playstation

02:09:36.360 --> 02:09:40.360
you know like I just haven't really I haven't really had to go up against it and I haven't upgraded

02:09:40.360 --> 02:09:44.360
my GPU in years I completely miss the rush

02:09:44.360 --> 02:09:48.360
I don't have a pre-order in I don't have

02:09:48.360 --> 02:09:52.360
so if I want to buy one what will it cost me let's go on eBay

02:09:52.360 --> 02:09:56.360
shall we what without looking without looking

02:09:56.360 --> 02:10:00.360
what would a 5090 cost me right now US eBay

02:10:00.360 --> 02:10:02.360
US eBay

02:10:04.360 --> 02:10:08.360
4400 bucks US?

02:10:08.360 --> 02:10:12.360
yeah all right we're off to a great start 5090 doesn't even

02:10:12.360 --> 02:10:16.360
bring up any GPUs we've got a Dell OptiPlex small phone factor

02:10:16.360 --> 02:10:20.360
PC no it really doesn't

02:10:20.360 --> 02:10:24.360
all right let's try RTX there's no way that's right

02:10:24.360 --> 02:10:28.360
oh that one below it looks a little bit more accurate open box

02:10:28.360 --> 02:10:32.360
2 year extended warranty I've heard from some people that the 5080

02:10:32.360 --> 02:10:36.360
prices have been going down on the used market well yeah 5080 isn't it

02:10:36.360 --> 02:10:40.360
I assumed the 5090 ones might be doing the same jeebus

02:10:40.360 --> 02:10:44.360
jeebus help us all that's US dollars dude these are bids

02:10:44.360 --> 02:10:48.360
dude these are bids these are bids that's not a buy it now sir

02:10:48.360 --> 02:10:52.360
that's not one bid okay but maybe no one's buying

02:10:52.360 --> 02:10:56.360
maybe people are saying now they're buying them

02:10:56.360 --> 02:11:00.360
6200 that's the founders

02:11:00.360 --> 02:11:04.360
so more like 7500

02:11:08.360 --> 02:11:12.360
9000 some of these might be fake

02:11:12.360 --> 02:11:16.360
some of these might be fake I don't think anyone's actually

02:11:16.360 --> 02:11:20.360
paying 9000 for a gaming trio especially when

02:11:20.360 --> 02:11:24.360
they could get it for 6300 in this other listing yeah this is rough dude

02:11:24.360 --> 02:11:28.360
this is all today we're still on today right now by the way

02:11:28.360 --> 02:11:32.360
yeah so like they exist yep they're definitely

02:11:32.360 --> 02:11:36.360
out there I would just

02:11:36.360 --> 02:11:40.360
I would just not I won't

02:11:40.360 --> 02:11:44.360
I can't best offer doesn't show actual price

02:11:45.360 --> 02:11:49.360
what does that mean I'm not looking at best offer

02:11:49.360 --> 02:11:53.360
I'm looking at completed items sold items

02:11:54.360 --> 02:11:58.360
new listing 6000 or best offer

02:11:58.360 --> 02:12:02.360
oh what they're saying is that they might have taken a lower offer

02:12:02.360 --> 02:12:06.360
okay so the 9000 might have taken a lower offer

02:12:06.360 --> 02:12:10.360
no they say best offer accepted on ones that are best offer though

02:12:10.360 --> 02:12:14.360
see so no actually no that looks different

02:12:14.360 --> 02:12:18.360
I'm not an eBay expert when it comes to this as far as my understanding

02:12:18.360 --> 02:12:22.360
goes when you say sold items that shows the price

02:12:22.360 --> 02:12:26.360
yeah Jenny thing says it has a line through it if they took a lower offer yeah no this appears to be

02:12:26.360 --> 02:12:30.360
the closing price guys and yeah I don't know

02:12:30.360 --> 02:12:34.360
rough and that transitions us to

02:12:34.360 --> 02:12:38.360
the future of tech channels source I made it up

02:12:38.360 --> 02:12:42.360
I am seeing a growing and justified

02:12:42.360 --> 02:12:46.360
some or understandable at least trend of anger toward tech reviewers

02:12:46.360 --> 02:12:50.360
for being able to get access to this technology that consumers are struggling

02:12:50.360 --> 02:12:54.360
to get their hands on especially at a somewhat

02:12:54.360 --> 02:12:58.360
reasonable price I think we can all agree that one component

02:12:58.360 --> 02:13:02.360
of the gaming computer is not

02:13:02.360 --> 02:13:06.360
reasonably priced at the entire cost of a sick

02:13:06.360 --> 02:13:10.360
top of the line gaming setup just a couple short years ago I think we can probably all agree

02:13:10.360 --> 02:13:14.360
on that now there's always been kind of some of this that we've seen whether it's

02:13:14.360 --> 02:13:18.360
you know in the comments or live streams or you know whatever right but what I've noticed

02:13:18.360 --> 02:13:22.360
is that this perception seems to be getting worse

02:13:22.360 --> 02:13:26.360
for a number of reasons that I think may make it difficult for us to make

02:13:26.360 --> 02:13:30.360
videos going forward reason number one

02:13:30.360 --> 02:13:34.360
economic challenges in the tech and gaming industry layoffs

02:13:34.360 --> 02:13:38.360
and a big pendulum swing towards a buyers

02:13:38.360 --> 02:13:42.360
market for tech companies in their HR endeavors I think

02:13:42.360 --> 02:13:46.360
we could agree that explain what that means yeah I think three years ago it was a

02:13:46.360 --> 02:13:50.360
sellers market if I was a potential prospective employee

02:13:50.360 --> 02:13:54.360
or a recent graduate I was basically you know

02:13:54.360 --> 02:13:58.360
putting resumes out there if I even got a chance to put resumes out there

02:13:58.360 --> 02:14:02.360
and I would just have an offer when it came to tech now

02:14:02.360 --> 02:14:06.360
it's the other way around I think that the tech companies

02:14:06.360 --> 02:14:10.360
are able to be choosy and they're absolutely

02:14:10.360 --> 02:14:14.360
thinning the herd Luke talked about this I think on the pre-show

02:14:14.360 --> 02:14:18.360
where like the RTO the return to office mandates seem to be in

02:14:18.360 --> 02:14:22.360
some cases very obviously nothing to do with

02:14:22.360 --> 02:14:26.360
actually wanting everybody in the office and everything to do with thinning the herd

02:14:26.360 --> 02:14:30.360
hoping you'll take a layoff with those severance yes

02:14:30.360 --> 02:14:34.360
factor number two economic challenges more broadly everything is expensive

02:14:34.360 --> 02:14:38.360
especially food which pun intended eats into

02:14:38.360 --> 02:14:42.360
the disposable income that we have to spend on dignity nice to haves like

02:14:42.360 --> 02:14:46.360
GPUs factor number three ever shrinking

02:14:46.360 --> 02:14:50.360
incentives to allocate manufacturing capacity to low margin gaming

02:14:50.360 --> 02:14:54.360
products and this is exactly what Luke was talking about during the 50 series

02:14:54.360 --> 02:14:58.360
thing for every wafer NVIDIA can choose to build AI

02:14:58.360 --> 02:15:02.360
chips for customers and media who love them at monstrous margins that delay their shareholders

02:15:02.360 --> 02:15:06.360
or they can choose to build gaming chips for

02:15:06.360 --> 02:15:10.360
customers and media who generally kind of hate them at margins that drag down their books

02:15:10.360 --> 02:15:14.360
factor four closely related the ever growing

02:15:14.360 --> 02:15:18.360
prices of consumer GPUs and so here

02:15:18.360 --> 02:15:22.360
I've got a note to talk about how PLUF has been following the pricing

02:15:22.360 --> 02:15:26.360
of the 4090 particularly closely as you guys are going to see

02:15:26.360 --> 02:15:30.360
in the 8k gaming drag race where we game it

02:15:30.360 --> 02:15:34.360
8k on a 4090 it's actually his

02:15:34.360 --> 02:15:38.360
we had to pull his from his system he graciously brought it into work that day

02:15:38.360 --> 02:15:42.360
asked me to be very very careful with it as I was installing it and uninstalling it

02:15:42.360 --> 02:15:46.360
he's like dude it's not a question of that it's a question of whether you'd even be able

02:15:46.360 --> 02:15:50.360
to buy me a new one whether you'd even be able to get one

02:15:50.360 --> 02:15:54.360
and it's a great point anyway the point is he graciously brought in his 4090 so that we could compare it

02:15:54.360 --> 02:15:58.360
directly to the 5090 and so he's been paying

02:15:58.360 --> 02:16:02.360
very close attention because if he's going to buy a 5090 like he had said he was going to

02:16:02.360 --> 02:16:06.360
he would be selling his 4090 so

02:16:06.360 --> 02:16:10.360
so keeping track of 4090 pricing tells him how much he's going to have to put

02:16:10.360 --> 02:16:14.360
towards his 5090 and this is crazy okay so he just added

02:16:14.360 --> 02:16:18.360
he added this to the dock here but he was telling me earlier in the week

02:16:18.360 --> 02:16:22.360
man or not earlier in the week must have been last week

02:16:22.360 --> 02:16:26.360
when we were shooting the first one the 8k gaming video he's like dude 4090s

02:16:26.360 --> 02:16:30.360
are still going for like 2k Canadian that's like only a couple hundred bucks less than what I paid

02:16:30.360 --> 02:16:34.360
get this when we were shooting the

02:16:34.360 --> 02:16:38.360
4k gaming video the 4k high refresh rate gaming video

02:16:38.360 --> 02:16:42.360
earlier this week he goes Linus you're not going to believe this 4090s are now going

02:16:42.360 --> 02:16:46.360
for about 200 Canadian more than what I paid I could have used

02:16:46.360 --> 02:16:50.360
this GPU that I bought brand new two years ago for two years

02:16:50.360 --> 02:16:54.360
and I could sell it today and make money for a couple hundred dollars

02:16:54.360 --> 02:16:58.360
more than what I paid then then get this get this

02:16:58.360 --> 02:17:02.360
he just posted this update in the dock I just checked they're going for like 3k plus

02:17:02.360 --> 02:17:06.360
CAD on eBay now people look at the benchmarks and they go like

02:17:06.360 --> 02:17:10.360
well 4090 looks pretty good yeah maybe I'll just get that so all these factors together affect

02:17:10.360 --> 02:17:14.360
a channel like ours in multiple ways I've seen a clear

02:17:14.360 --> 02:17:18.360
trend of disengagement with content that features you know I can't

02:17:18.360 --> 02:17:22.360
afford right and I've seen people lament the old days

02:17:22.360 --> 02:17:26.360
when the channel was focused on stuff that regular people can own instead of just like

02:17:26.360 --> 02:17:30.360
millionaire sh** but hear me out

02:17:30.360 --> 02:17:34.360
hear me out for a second maybe LTT

02:17:34.360 --> 02:17:38.360
was always unhinged expensive stuff

02:17:38.360 --> 02:17:42.360
before you even jump into that I want to give an example the first real project I

02:17:42.360 --> 02:17:46.360
worked on with you was something I had never done before because I couldn't afford it

02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:50.360
oh the water cooling guide yeah okay water cooling has always been

02:17:50.360 --> 02:17:54.360
expensive especially back then it was even worse goes back farther than that yeah the second

02:17:54.360 --> 02:17:58.360
video that is what at the time was the most

02:17:58.360 --> 02:18:02.360
expensive motherboard on the market with three top spec

02:18:02.360 --> 02:18:06.360
GPUs on it and why did I put them on there

02:18:06.360 --> 02:18:10.360
let's see if they fit yeah actually there weren't all top spec this was actually three different

02:18:10.360 --> 02:18:14.360
generations because I just thought it was funny um let's go

02:18:14.360 --> 02:18:18.360
let's go a little further oh 3d vision because that wasn't a you know unhinged

02:18:18.360 --> 02:18:22.360
ridiculous accessory for one percenters uh what else we got here

02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:26.360
we got a bunch of motherboards because I was in a motherboard mood that day here's a bunch more

02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:30.360
motherboards oh I don't know here's my personal rig

02:18:30.360 --> 02:18:34.360
you know just casually looking a little something like that like it was

02:18:34.360 --> 02:18:38.360
always aspirational if we go a little

02:18:38.360 --> 02:18:42.360
farther we're gonna find like an extreme edition CPU I think I was yeah there it is here's

02:18:42.360 --> 02:18:46.360
a thousand US dollars CPU let's crack the seal boys

02:18:46.360 --> 02:18:50.360
it was always aspirational it was always like

02:18:50.360 --> 02:18:54.360
you know oh man what would it be like you know

02:18:54.360 --> 02:18:58.360
when the price comes down and I could have one of those

02:18:58.360 --> 02:19:02.360
um so why does it bother

02:19:02.360 --> 02:19:06.360
people now well I think there's a few factors I think the perception of

02:19:06.360 --> 02:19:10.360
me has changed um I haven't really talked to you about this but I I think

02:19:10.360 --> 02:19:14.360
I think it's safe to say now that I regret disclosing the value

02:19:14.360 --> 02:19:18.360
of the offer for our company I believe in transparency with the audience

02:19:18.360 --> 02:19:22.360
and in some ways I'm as parasocial as any of you guys are um and you know

02:19:22.360 --> 02:19:26.360
I I like you know talking about you know what's going on

02:19:26.360 --> 02:19:30.360
you know what's going on around here but it does feel like there was a significant

02:19:30.360 --> 02:19:34.360
turning point in perception toward me personally and toward our brand

02:19:34.360 --> 02:19:38.360
that line has changed you know that LTT changed um once

02:19:38.360 --> 02:19:42.360
you know I spelled it out for you guys that running a media company with 100 plus people

02:19:42.360 --> 02:19:46.360
means I probably have means beyond the 99% um in the current

02:19:46.360 --> 02:19:50.360
climate I think that almost certainly contributes to some of the anger and frustration that's targeted

02:19:50.360 --> 02:19:54.360
at me even though like guys I I'm a small fish

02:19:54.360 --> 02:19:58.360
I do not control the price of eggs I still exchange my labor for money

02:19:58.360 --> 02:20:02.360
I don't just get to exercise my capital for profit um

02:20:02.360 --> 02:20:06.360
and I also don't think that's all of it anyway I think a bigger piece

02:20:06.360 --> 02:20:10.360
is growing apathy toward tech in general

02:20:10.360 --> 02:20:14.360
what is the point of watching a video about the

02:20:14.360 --> 02:20:18.360
latest thing if it will literally never come down

02:20:18.360 --> 02:20:22.360
in price the fact that PLUVS 4090

02:20:22.360 --> 02:20:26.360
is worth today more than it was worth

02:20:26.360 --> 02:20:30.360
two years ago why should I care

02:20:30.360 --> 02:20:34.360
why should I bother caring about any of this then

02:20:34.360 --> 02:20:38.360
and I think another big factor is like

02:20:38.360 --> 02:20:42.360
people just have other stuff on their mind they just don't have the bandwidth it's like

02:20:42.360 --> 02:20:46.360
it used to be that the point of learning about DDR8 or whatever

02:20:46.360 --> 02:20:50.360
was that someday my earning power will grow

02:20:50.360 --> 02:20:54.360
and the cost of DDR8 will go down

02:20:54.360 --> 02:20:58.360
and those lines are going to intersect and I'm going to enjoy all that GC tech goodness

02:20:58.360 --> 02:21:02.360
at some point but wages are stagnating hardworking people are being cut from their roles

02:21:02.360 --> 02:21:06.360
at companies that are turning around and announcing record profits well, you know, AMD just

02:21:06.360 --> 02:21:10.360
forgets that Ryzen 3 exists and NVIDIA launches

02:21:10.360 --> 02:21:14.360
new GPUs that are so expensive the old ones keep their retail value I can see why it feels pointless

02:21:14.360 --> 02:21:18.360
I'm going to jump in for a second again just to bolster that the whole forgets Ryzen 3 exists thing

02:21:18.360 --> 02:21:22.360
for a long time not only was the 60 card

02:21:22.360 --> 02:21:26.360
the one that everybody bought but it felt like there was also a lot more emphasis on it

02:21:26.360 --> 02:21:30.360
felt like it mattered more where's the 50 desktop card

02:21:30.360 --> 02:21:34.360
yeah, seriously like they

02:21:34.360 --> 02:21:38.360
in general, they care about the lower end a lot more and I think that is

02:21:38.360 --> 02:21:42.360
somewhat reflected in like like this 5000 series launch

02:21:42.360 --> 02:21:46.360
you know, I've been out of it for a while but everyone seems

02:21:46.360 --> 02:21:50.360
really interested in the 90 series if I'm thinking like way back

02:21:50.360 --> 02:21:54.360
like 500 series, 400 series 700 series even

02:21:54.360 --> 02:21:58.360
like the 780 was really cool yeah, but you know

02:21:58.360 --> 02:22:02.360
people really talked about the 760 8800 GTS

02:22:02.360 --> 02:22:06.360
sick and if you were a baller

02:22:06.360 --> 02:22:10.360
you could get two of those in SLI and it was actually better bang for the buck than a single GTX

02:22:10.360 --> 02:22:14.360
like there was value to be had the GTX was like

02:22:14.360 --> 02:22:18.360
what people really cared about GTX was cool to see but the GTX was what people

02:22:18.360 --> 02:22:22.360
really cared about and that doesn't feel like the communication sentiment

02:22:22.360 --> 02:22:26.360
that I'm seeing these days I'm not seeing a bunch of people being like

02:22:26.360 --> 02:22:30.360
yeah, I mean it was a cool video or whatever I don't care about the 5090

02:22:30.360 --> 02:22:34.360
I'm looking for the 5060 I genuinely don't think I've seen any of those comments

02:22:34.360 --> 02:22:38.360
and I used to see that all the time the most frustrating part for me

02:22:38.360 --> 02:22:42.360
is that for our hardware enthusiast hobby

02:22:42.360 --> 02:22:46.360
that you know we've enjoyed for our entire adult lives

02:22:46.360 --> 02:22:50.360
is that all of this is totally valid

02:22:50.360 --> 02:22:54.360
like if I didn't review this stuff for a living would I bother upgrading my PC

02:22:54.360 --> 02:22:58.360
if something wasn't broken and if I didn't care about competitive play

02:22:58.360 --> 02:23:02.360
would I just use a streaming service like GeForce Now or Shadow

02:23:06.360 --> 02:23:10.360
so I don't know it's something I've been reflecting on a lot because I sit in writer's meeting

02:23:10.360 --> 02:23:14.360
and you know on the one hand it's fun for us to joke about doing like

02:23:14.360 --> 02:23:18.360
a tech yacht or whatever just for the spectacle of it

02:23:18.360 --> 02:23:22.360
and it's cool to look at it's cool to dream about

02:23:22.360 --> 02:23:26.360
and it's cool to live that dream and that's awesome and stuff like it's cool

02:23:26.360 --> 02:23:30.360
but what makes us

02:23:30.360 --> 02:23:34.360
relatable, what makes it fun to watch us do that wild stuff

02:23:34.360 --> 02:23:38.360
is that we also talk about the things that people can actually afford

02:23:38.360 --> 02:23:42.360
but I don't and so people will be pitching things in writer's meeting

02:23:42.360 --> 02:23:46.360
and I'm just like yeah no we can't we can't even talk about that

02:23:46.360 --> 02:23:50.360
we can't show that and the thing is like we get backlash for watching me

02:23:50.360 --> 02:23:54.360
put cool tech in my McMansion we get backlash for saying hey buying a console

02:23:54.360 --> 02:23:58.360
is a valid option we get backlash and we have always

02:23:58.360 --> 02:24:02.360
but it's been more lately which is bizarre for focusing on second hand tech

02:24:02.360 --> 02:24:06.360
in videos like our PlayStation Killer series and that one that I did

02:24:06.360 --> 02:24:10.360
I had someone explain to me why that video didn't resonate with people

02:24:10.360 --> 02:24:14.360
the one where I was like only you can fix GPU pricing and I went out and did like a mini

02:24:14.360 --> 02:24:18.360
scrapyard wars where I bought a 3080 for a great price

02:24:18.360 --> 02:24:22.360
and it was because people don't want to be blamed

02:24:22.360 --> 02:24:26.360
gamers didn't want to be blamed for buying the stuff anyway

02:24:26.360 --> 02:24:30.360
sure and I'm kind of like okay

02:24:30.360 --> 02:24:34.360
but like you're buying $7,000

02:24:34.360 --> 02:24:38.360
$50.90 what am I supposed to do

02:24:38.360 --> 02:24:42.360
it's really weird to have people be angry at the messenger in these cases it's like

02:24:42.360 --> 02:24:46.360
you know yeah we're going to continue to highlight affordable stuff whenever we get the chance

02:24:46.360 --> 02:24:50.360
I can't cover products that don't exist you know people ask me why don't you do $500

02:24:50.360 --> 02:24:54.360
build guides anymore like every few months why don't you do like an affordable build guide

02:24:54.360 --> 02:24:58.360
I can't cover stuff that doesn't exist AMD

02:24:58.360 --> 02:25:02.360
hasn't launched a Ryzen 3 in two

02:25:02.360 --> 02:25:06.360
full desktop generations now and that includes mid-cycle X3D refreshes

02:25:06.360 --> 02:25:10.360
yeah the companies don't really care about that

02:25:10.360 --> 02:25:14.360
NVIDIA simply no longer makes a 50 class

02:25:14.360 --> 02:25:18.360
GPU on the desktop don't have one

02:25:18.360 --> 02:25:22.360
I mean I also this is another one I also get asked hey Linus

02:25:22.360 --> 02:25:26.360
why aren't you doing more to pressure these companies to make stuff more affordable

02:25:26.360 --> 02:25:30.360
and the answer to that is guys you watch Wansho every week

02:25:30.360 --> 02:25:34.360
you know you tune into LTT a few times a week and you care what I have to say

02:25:34.360 --> 02:25:38.360
maybe maybe you don't maybe you hate watch I don't know but the point is that you're

02:25:38.360 --> 02:25:42.360
engaged do you think Lisa Sue watches Wansho

02:25:42.360 --> 02:25:46.360
well that's not what they're trying to say I think they're trying to say like

02:25:46.360 --> 02:25:50.360
why don't you talk to them directly no so it doesn't it doesn't matter

02:25:50.360 --> 02:25:54.360
my point is just that do you think Lisa Sue gives two shits what I think

02:25:54.360 --> 02:25:58.360
yeah no do you think Jensen Huang cares do you think he knows my name

02:25:58.360 --> 02:26:02.360
they're analyzing where they're making money and they're doing that

02:26:02.360 --> 02:26:06.360
they are solely beholden to their shareholders and I own no stock in any of their companies

02:26:06.360 --> 02:26:10.360
because duh I shouldn't

02:26:10.360 --> 02:26:14.360
so that was the spiel what do we do

02:26:14.360 --> 02:26:18.360
like what do we do we can't just keep reviewing

02:26:18.360 --> 02:26:22.360
hardware that people can't afford we can't

02:26:22.360 --> 02:26:26.360
we can't keep just like you know building projects that no one could hope

02:26:26.360 --> 02:26:30.360
to replicate ever like what's the answer here

02:26:30.360 --> 02:26:34.360
can you believe that Apple Apple is now the

02:26:34.360 --> 02:26:38.360
savior of the affordable desktop PC it's weird what the f***

02:26:38.360 --> 02:26:42.360
a lot of talk going around about Mac minis a lot

02:26:42.360 --> 02:26:46.360
I literally hear about Mac minis like at least multiple times a week

02:26:48.360 --> 02:26:52.360
Apple yeah

02:26:52.360 --> 02:26:56.360
yeah it's weird so you got nothing then that's what you're saying it's weird

02:26:56.360 --> 02:27:00.360
thank you Luke that's really helpful I mean I don't think like you know

02:27:00.360 --> 02:27:04.360
there's people in the comments saying do retro stuff there's a dot here on doing retro stuff

02:27:04.360 --> 02:27:08.360
I don't think that's gonna work personally I think you can do it every now

02:27:08.360 --> 02:27:12.360
and then I don't think you can pivot the channel to it there's thoughts about doing

02:27:12.360 --> 02:27:16.360
software content again I think you can do it every now and then I strongly

02:27:16.360 --> 02:27:18.360
don't believe you can pivot the channel to it

02:27:20.360 --> 02:27:24.360
nerdle brings up a really interesting point Linus I'd be more concerned if views

02:27:24.360 --> 02:27:28.360
were going way down with the hate but if it's consistent views why are we

02:27:28.360 --> 02:27:32.360
focusing on the hate more I'm not talking about hate I'm talking about

02:27:32.360 --> 02:27:36.360
something way more dangerous and that's apathy and the reason

02:27:36.360 --> 02:27:40.360
that views aren't going down is because for all the you know

02:27:40.360 --> 02:27:44.360
ripping on them that I do and you know all the banter that we have in the office

02:27:44.360 --> 02:27:48.360
I have a f***ing world class team yeah we work

02:27:48.360 --> 02:27:52.360
yeah peel the floor peel the floor

02:27:52.360 --> 02:27:56.360
okay that's an internal meme don't worry about it I will never stop

02:27:56.360 --> 02:28:00.360
the point is we work

02:28:00.360 --> 02:28:04.360
we work really hard we work really hard

02:28:04.360 --> 02:28:08.360
to upload videos that are engaging for our audience

02:28:08.360 --> 02:28:12.360
and the reason

02:28:12.360 --> 02:28:16.360
that views are the way that they are hold on that no title

02:28:16.360 --> 02:28:20.360
contains hold on I'm doing a little filter here the reason that views haven't fallen

02:28:20.360 --> 02:28:24.360
is because we're doing that we are actively

02:28:24.360 --> 02:28:28.360
working against a tide that you guys might not see

02:28:28.360 --> 02:28:32.360
in our analytics but we do if we just uploaded a video

02:28:32.360 --> 02:28:36.360
unboxing a mother board like we might have 10 years ago

02:28:36.360 --> 02:28:40.360
oof we'd be lucky to get 50,000 views on it

02:28:40.360 --> 02:28:44.360
nobody cares nobody cares the apathy

02:28:44.360 --> 02:28:48.360
toward just like DIY computer heart we have to come up with an angle

02:28:48.360 --> 02:28:52.360
like there was one recently that that just bombed and we were talking

02:28:52.360 --> 02:28:56.360
about it on wancho and you guys rightly were like Linus you totally

02:28:56.360 --> 02:29:00.360
missed the mark on this you should have done $50 versus $50,000

02:29:00.360 --> 02:29:04.360
for that format and it was the home theater one the home theater one

02:29:04.360 --> 02:29:08.360
and I was like oh yeah you're right like you need a cat

02:29:08.360 --> 02:29:12.360
you need a hook you need a format you need to do so much more than

02:29:12.360 --> 02:29:16.360
just review this product like we used to

02:29:16.360 --> 02:29:20.360
like look at this things are so much work now

02:29:20.360 --> 02:29:24.360
we literally had to paint Elijah's house to execute this video

02:29:24.360 --> 02:29:28.360
that would have been the kind of like wild

02:29:28.360 --> 02:29:32.360
huge project that we would do once a quarter back in the day

02:29:32.360 --> 02:29:36.360
the 50 series reviews

02:29:36.360 --> 02:29:40.360
were thick in terms of the effort that went

02:29:40.360 --> 02:29:44.360
into them this controller roundup

02:29:44.360 --> 02:29:48.360
we had David working for at least an entire week

02:29:48.360 --> 02:29:52.360
dedicated to this that is not a thing that used to happen for just

02:29:52.360 --> 02:29:56.360
an upload also Antoine Lusseldab's work there was

02:29:56.360 --> 02:30:00.360
oh yeah multiple people worked for a long time

02:30:00.360 --> 02:30:04.360
on this the editors man the editors did such a great job

02:30:04.360 --> 02:30:08.360
shoot I feel terrible because I forget who it was but boy did they ever do

02:30:08.360 --> 02:30:12.360
a bang up job of all of the the cool like graphics and stuff

02:30:12.360 --> 02:30:16.360
let me see if I can find it hold on

02:30:16.360 --> 02:30:20.360
here we go no

02:30:20.360 --> 02:30:24.360
there we go like this kind of stuff is so cool that adds

02:30:24.360 --> 02:30:28.360
so much to the video it is so much

02:30:28.360 --> 02:30:32.360
Robert there we go it is so much more work now

02:30:32.360 --> 02:30:36.360
to get those views compared to and I'm not complaining I'm not saying

02:30:36.360 --> 02:30:40.360
we shouldn't have to work we shouldn't have to compete we should have to work

02:30:40.360 --> 02:30:44.360
we should have to compete I embrace competition because I think it makes the content

02:30:44.360 --> 02:30:48.360
I think it makes the entire space better for people who care

02:30:48.360 --> 02:30:52.360
and for people who are interested in it but what I am saying but what I'm saying is

02:30:52.360 --> 02:30:56.360
it's not about it's not hate competing to make better content

02:30:56.360 --> 02:31:00.360
like competing against a fading industry yeah

02:31:00.360 --> 02:31:04.360
which that's no longer fun or cool yeah

02:31:08.360 --> 02:31:12.360
so what do we do what do you do in 20 years

02:31:12.360 --> 02:31:16.360
dude what so 20 years what I'm 58 okay let's make it different

02:31:16.360 --> 02:31:20.360
what do you do in 12 years why 12 oh I see because we've been at it

02:31:20.360 --> 02:31:24.360
12 years um I don't know I think that's a good

02:31:24.360 --> 02:31:28.360
way to frame it though because if we can determine you know where we want to be

02:31:28.360 --> 02:31:32.360
then every action that we take is I mean for better or for worse

02:31:32.360 --> 02:31:36.360
I've always been about transparency with the people like I think that

02:31:36.360 --> 02:31:40.360
I think that a lot of online personalities

02:31:40.360 --> 02:31:44.360
get a bit of an easier ride even though they're very successful if they

02:31:44.360 --> 02:31:48.360
like don't post a picture of their car never live stream from their nice house

02:31:48.360 --> 02:31:52.360
I think people it's easier for people to just kind of forget about that we were

02:31:52.360 --> 02:31:56.360
talking I'm not going to go directly into this topic but we were talking about this

02:31:56.360 --> 02:32:00.360
kind of in the pre-show of like being more transparent about and public

02:32:00.360 --> 02:32:04.360
about things will catch you more flak oh guaranteed 100%

02:32:04.360 --> 02:32:08.360
in every scenario I mean at this point though I feel like I've been caught

02:32:08.360 --> 02:32:12.360
in the flat can in so many times and I'm not dead yet like it's just like

02:32:12.360 --> 02:32:16.360
yeah I um tickle tickle I mean

02:32:16.360 --> 02:32:20.360
you know how upset I was and why for a recent

02:32:20.360 --> 02:32:24.360
thing that happened oh yeah very justified and

02:32:24.360 --> 02:32:28.360
um it rolled off my back

02:32:28.360 --> 02:32:32.360
easier than I thought surprisingly fast because I think

02:32:32.360 --> 02:32:36.360
maybe not because you don't care I think it's I think

02:32:36.360 --> 02:32:40.360
it's just an acceptance that um the haters going to hate

02:32:40.360 --> 02:32:44.360
hate hate hate hate and I'm just going to shake shake shake shake shake shake it off

02:32:44.360 --> 02:32:48.360
like I don't really I only have a choice there's nothing I can do about it and so this

02:32:48.360 --> 02:32:52.360
this isn't about appeasing haters it's about it's about you know figuring out

02:32:52.360 --> 02:32:56.360
what is the direction of our content because now

02:32:56.360 --> 02:33:00.360
we have reviewed the 50 series you know

02:33:00.360 --> 02:33:04.360
I'm going to have no new consumer GPU after we get through 5070

02:33:04.360 --> 02:33:08.360
5060 probably 5050 won't even happen so sometime over the next you know months

02:33:08.360 --> 02:33:12.360
we're going to have the entire 50 series lineup and I will have no

02:33:12.360 --> 02:33:16.360
GPU to review for probably two years I honestly looking at the trend

02:33:16.360 --> 02:33:20.360
maybe maybe two and a half maybe two and a quarter maybe two yeah yeah maybe longer

02:33:20.360 --> 02:33:24.360
who knows right so that that's not going to work we can't just like

02:33:24.360 --> 02:33:28.360
review GPUs when they happen to appear yeah

02:33:28.360 --> 02:33:32.360
so where do I want to be in 12 years I don't know maybe it's so hard

02:33:32.360 --> 02:33:36.360
to think about that we're I mean we're moving if you look

02:33:36.360 --> 02:33:40.360
at if you look at we have a video coming soon that is going to be very cool

02:33:40.360 --> 02:33:44.360
which is how does LMG make money

02:33:44.360 --> 02:33:48.360
and if you look at the trend line of the company

02:33:48.360 --> 02:33:52.360
we're making stuff we do we

02:33:52.360 --> 02:33:56.360
we got to the point where it was there isn't

02:33:56.360 --> 02:34:00.360
a stuff to make content there's enough stuff to make content about let's start making stuff

02:34:00.360 --> 02:34:04.360
instead of just making content yeah in between was the I remember

02:34:04.360 --> 02:34:08.360
I remember telling probably you I think this would have been still when you were on the content team

02:34:08.360 --> 02:34:12.360
but definitely people afterwards is we are at a

02:34:12.360 --> 02:34:16.360
scale now and at a level of operation where we no longer

02:34:16.360 --> 02:34:20.360
talk about the news we make that was still yeah I was still

02:34:20.360 --> 02:34:24.360
doing content we we create something to be excited about

02:34:24.360 --> 02:34:28.360
whether it's with our angle or our production values or whatever

02:34:28.360 --> 02:34:32.360
it is we cannot be dependent on someone else

02:34:32.360 --> 02:34:36.360
to make something interesting for us to talk about we have to find something interesting to say

02:34:36.360 --> 02:34:40.360
regardless and then I guess you're saying so the next level is we just

02:34:40.360 --> 02:34:44.360
make something for people to talk about

02:34:44.360 --> 02:34:48.360
I don't I mean we're not we're not at that level in tech though we're talking 12 years

02:34:48.360 --> 02:34:52.360
though look at what we've done in 12 years

02:34:52.360 --> 02:34:56.360
in this 12 years we made screwdrivers and backpacks and a

02:34:56.360 --> 02:35:00.360
multiple content warehouses and a lab and a video

02:35:00.360 --> 02:35:04.360
platform service and all this other stuff what do we do in the next

02:35:04.360 --> 02:35:08.360
12 years 12 years is a long time your

02:35:08.360 --> 02:35:12.360
child will solidly be an adult

02:35:12.360 --> 02:35:16.360
well I don't want to think about that right now I'm just trying to give it a scale

02:35:16.360 --> 02:35:20.360
yeah no I get it I get it man I mean like

02:35:20.360 --> 02:35:24.360
we we make stuff we do make stuff now

02:35:24.360 --> 02:35:28.360
you know sometimes it's just a one-off why am I not finding this video

02:35:28.360 --> 02:35:32.360
what's going on all the filters are just being stupid this is a this is

02:35:32.360 --> 02:35:36.360
a really cool video the ultimate sleeper gaming TV again

02:35:36.360 --> 02:35:40.360
this is the kind of video that would have been like once a once

02:35:40.360 --> 02:35:44.360
a quarter once a year level project is just

02:35:44.360 --> 02:35:48.360
an upload this week you know the finished product

02:35:48.360 --> 02:35:52.360
on this is absolutely incredible it's the best

02:35:52.360 --> 02:35:56.360
gaming TV in the world it has every

02:35:56.360 --> 02:36:00.360
it has every console that matters inside it

02:36:00.360 --> 02:36:04.360
did you watch this Luke? I haven't yet but I'm genuinely excited to

02:36:04.360 --> 02:36:08.360
I've just had a genuinely insane week so we've got PC, subwoofer, speakers

02:36:08.360 --> 02:36:12.360
Nintendo Wii U PlayStation 5

02:36:12.360 --> 02:36:16.360
and a Nintendo switch and then we replaced the front

02:36:16.360 --> 02:36:20.360
projection screen with an OLED so it's everything about it

02:36:20.360 --> 02:36:24.360
is modern current generation top of the line sleeper gaming TV

02:36:24.360 --> 02:36:28.360
so sick dude but I don't see a

02:36:28.360 --> 02:36:32.360
path where we like productize stuff like that though

02:36:32.360 --> 02:36:36.360
so what do we make in tech? I don't know

02:36:36.360 --> 02:36:40.360
like I don't really I don't have a vision toward that it's really hard to make

02:36:40.360 --> 02:36:44.360
quarterly goals and we're trying to make 12 year goals yeah

02:36:44.360 --> 02:36:48.360
what I think I'm pushing for is that we'll make something the

02:36:48.360 --> 02:36:52.360
the engine that has been created here is an engine that can be used

02:36:52.360 --> 02:36:56.360
for a great many things at this point we have

02:36:56.360 --> 02:37:00.360
software we have hardware we have content we have business

02:37:00.360 --> 02:37:04.360
we have everything practically

02:37:04.360 --> 02:37:08.360
so what the engine works to produce

02:37:08.360 --> 02:37:12.360
so here's a question I mean is there should we just

02:37:12.360 --> 02:37:16.360
you know back to like you know the haters or whatever should we just

02:37:16.360 --> 02:37:20.360
maintain the transparent should we just do tech yacht and just not give a

02:37:20.360 --> 02:37:24.360
f*** people

02:37:24.360 --> 02:37:28.360
aren't going to be happy unless you Michael Bay the sequel

02:37:28.360 --> 02:37:32.360
so do we just keep upping the ante do we take the ultimate sleeper gaming

02:37:32.360 --> 02:37:36.360
TV put it in our tech yacht sign it up with a charter

02:37:36.360 --> 02:37:40.360
with a charter broker service and people can charter the tech yacht and they can play

02:37:40.360 --> 02:37:44.360
on the ultimate gaming TV like should we just not give a f***

02:37:44.360 --> 02:37:48.360
my big thing and I know this might not make a lot of sense to a lot of people but my big thing

02:37:48.360 --> 02:37:52.360
is if you make it a business you don't care

02:37:52.360 --> 02:37:56.360
right it's a business venture it doesn't matter

02:37:56.360 --> 02:38:00.360
to me how profitable it is so if people can charter the tech plane

02:38:00.360 --> 02:38:04.360
then we don't care interesting philosophy I'm not sure if I 100%

02:38:04.360 --> 02:38:08.360
agree with that I don't know that everyone else does

02:38:08.360 --> 02:38:12.360
but maybe we just don't give a f*** anymore I don't know dude

02:38:12.360 --> 02:38:16.360
why is your spending

02:38:16.360 --> 02:38:20.360
beholden to others I don't know I mean you know

02:38:20.360 --> 02:38:24.360
that one of the reasons that I held off on like getting a nice car for so long

02:38:24.360 --> 02:38:28.360
was because I was concerned about the optics and I'm saying this

02:38:28.360 --> 02:38:32.360
while I feel the same way often so like I'm being pretty hypocritical

02:38:32.360 --> 02:38:36.360
but it's I also do kind of believe it I don't exactly walk the walk

02:38:36.360 --> 02:38:40.360
but I do kind of believe it where it's like I don't know man do whatever you want

02:38:40.360 --> 02:38:44.360
like it's at a certain point who cares and you look at

02:38:44.360 --> 02:38:48.360
so many other creators that don't care

02:38:48.360 --> 02:38:52.360
and like I came across a like hype video

02:38:52.360 --> 02:38:56.360
because I think it was like speed or something someone tried to make fun

02:38:56.360 --> 02:39:00.360
of him because his his car got declined at like some restaurant

02:39:00.360 --> 02:39:04.360
and he flexed that the watch he was wearing was like three million dollars

02:39:04.360 --> 02:39:08.360
and it was like the music after he does that is like this like hype like

02:39:08.360 --> 02:39:12.360
he's so sick and it does puts like filters on the frame and starts like shaking

02:39:12.360 --> 02:39:16.360
the camera and stuff and they're like cheering for him because he has a three million

02:39:16.360 --> 02:39:20.360
dollar watch or whatever I'm sure I misquoted all of that I don't care it's not the point

02:39:20.360 --> 02:39:24.360
but I yeah cool I have an apple watch with a unicorn

02:39:24.360 --> 02:39:28.360
on it yeah but it's like I don't know who cares

02:39:28.360 --> 02:39:32.360
the yeah

02:39:32.360 --> 02:39:36.360
especially in my opinion if you if you like try to make it

02:39:36.360 --> 02:39:40.360
if it's a business venture and people do chart planes and they chart

02:39:40.360 --> 02:39:44.360
yachts these are things that happen yeah so like it can be a legitimate business

02:39:44.360 --> 02:39:48.360
and if you try to put a specific spin on it like it's the gamer

02:39:48.360 --> 02:39:52.360
version then I don't know cool

02:39:52.360 --> 02:39:56.360
I could absolutely see like some

02:39:56.360 --> 02:40:00.360
baller old money person whatever I don't know they have a bachelor party and they want to do it on a gamer

02:40:00.360 --> 02:40:04.360
yacht why not

02:40:04.360 --> 02:40:08.360
my name is Jeb says you know yeah maybe don't give a f*** when it's your money on the line

02:40:08.360 --> 02:40:12.360
but your employees rely on you to feed their families and it's questionable at that point

02:40:12.360 --> 02:40:16.360
and that's 100% valid but

02:40:16.360 --> 02:40:20.360
unless they're definitely going to be fine let me put it this way

02:40:20.360 --> 02:40:24.360
the paychecks have never been late at Linus Media Group not once

02:40:24.360 --> 02:40:28.360
in 12 years not once

02:40:28.360 --> 02:40:32.360
you would never you would never see me

02:40:32.360 --> 02:40:36.360
being irresponsible in such a way that it would impact our ability to make payroll

02:40:36.360 --> 02:40:40.360
that has never happened that would never happen

02:40:44.360 --> 02:40:48.360
I don't know is it interesting

02:40:48.360 --> 02:40:52.360
is putting a computer on a yacht interesting

02:40:52.360 --> 02:40:56.360
we do way more than a computer sir RG being a yacht

02:40:56.360 --> 02:41:00.360
dude I got ideas for days I got ideas for days

02:41:00.360 --> 02:41:04.360
you can see the fish that's a thing

02:41:04.360 --> 02:41:08.360
are you going to jump it over a shark wait no do you

02:41:08.360 --> 02:41:12.360
do you jump the shark over the boat or what's the

02:41:12.360 --> 02:41:16.360
bigger shark jump Dan help me out here I think the shark jumping over the boat is cooler

02:41:16.360 --> 02:41:20.360
yeah yeah can the shark be on fire

02:41:20.360 --> 02:41:24.360
it should be on fire that's animal cruelty

02:41:24.360 --> 02:41:28.360
you need to get a CG team we have an editing team

02:41:28.360 --> 02:41:32.360
we need a computer graphic team so that they can set the shark on fire

02:41:32.360 --> 02:41:36.360
and then you can water cool it the water is a water cooled shark

02:41:36.360 --> 02:41:40.360
I think all sharks are water cooled whale land for whales cruise

02:41:40.360 --> 02:41:44.360
ok no but seriously we're talking about in the pre-show if there is a tech yacht

02:41:44.360 --> 02:41:48.360
and he could smack a bunch of starlink on it or something

02:41:48.360 --> 02:41:52.360
and we could make a strong Wi-Fi bubble right next to because there's a pier

02:41:52.360 --> 02:41:56.360
right next to where LTX normally happens we wouldn't have to buy convention internet

02:41:56.360 --> 02:42:00.360
convention internet is incredibly expensive

02:42:00.360 --> 02:42:04.360
what if we just did like Floatplane boat and all of the developers just

02:42:04.360 --> 02:42:06.360
lived and worked on the boat

02:42:08.360 --> 02:42:12.360
what I don't know if we're going to get buy it on that

02:42:12.360 --> 02:42:16.360
yeah no I don't think anyone's going to want to do that I'm down

02:42:16.360 --> 02:42:20.360
jeez you just want free housing

02:42:20.360 --> 02:42:24.360
that's the problem with LMG we don't have a basement

02:42:24.360 --> 02:42:28.360
for Luke to live in and now we don't

02:42:28.360 --> 02:42:32.360
and the companies go on to hell that's it we don't have a basement

02:42:32.360 --> 02:42:36.360
yeah I don't think we're going to get an answer today

02:42:36.360 --> 02:42:40.360
it's been really interesting to see your guys' perspectives on it

02:42:40.360 --> 02:42:44.360
you know I think you guys know that maybe to a fault

02:42:44.360 --> 02:42:48.360
I take community feedback very seriously so I really do appreciate Floatplane chat

02:42:48.360 --> 02:42:52.360
too much of it yeah jumping in here with their perspectives

02:42:52.360 --> 02:42:56.360
but I really I don't actually see

02:42:56.360 --> 02:43:00.360
another way forward other than just doing whatever

02:43:02.360 --> 02:43:06.360
and just not worrying about you know people's perception because the reality of it is

02:43:06.360 --> 02:43:10.360
like that's why you guys watched us

02:43:10.360 --> 02:43:14.360
from day one was that we had cool stuff

02:43:14.360 --> 02:43:18.360
that most people could never afford if you start exclusively make like some of the suggestions

02:43:18.360 --> 02:43:22.360
that we're looking at here if you start exclusively making software content the channel will die

02:43:22.360 --> 02:43:26.360
if you start exclusively making retro content the channel will die

02:43:26.360 --> 02:43:30.360
you know that's the problem

02:43:30.360 --> 02:43:34.360
is there's a finite amount of retro

02:43:34.360 --> 02:43:38.360
and like maybe there's always the possibility of spin-off channels

02:43:40.360 --> 02:43:44.360
maybe there's something there I kind of doubt it

02:43:44.360 --> 02:43:48.360
there's already people that do that really well on YouTube

02:43:48.360 --> 02:43:52.360
and I don't think there's enough

02:43:52.360 --> 02:43:56.360
of like a reason to try to compete in that arena there's really good people in that arena

02:43:56.360 --> 02:44:00.360
doing a really good job I feel like it's pretty saturated to be completely honest

02:44:00.360 --> 02:44:04.360
I don't know what we could bring new to that that I think would be really good

02:44:04.360 --> 02:44:08.360
Altar says I think there's a big difference between showcasing cool tech and needlessly

02:44:08.360 --> 02:44:12.360
flaunting wealth I've always appreciated the learning and the journey of these videos

02:44:12.360 --> 02:44:16.360
I don't think that will change and that is something that we try to do

02:44:16.360 --> 02:44:20.360
you know I always talk to the writing team about what's the learning outcome

02:44:20.360 --> 02:44:24.360
you know I'll say like hey that sounds like a funny scenario

02:44:24.360 --> 02:44:28.360
but it also feels contrived if we aren't learning anything about it

02:44:28.360 --> 02:44:32.360
or if we aren't learning anything by coming along on this journey and I don't think that's something

02:44:32.360 --> 02:44:36.360
that we would lose track of however those learning outcomes

02:44:36.360 --> 02:44:40.360
might not be that relatable they might not be that applicable

02:44:40.360 --> 02:44:44.360
a lot of them aren't and that's okay automation systems for a boat

02:44:44.360 --> 02:44:46.360
scientific study happens on a lot of things that

02:44:48.360 --> 02:44:52.360
have questionable use increasing the body of knowledge regardless

02:44:52.360 --> 02:44:56.360
Nooch says I feel Labs will be your legacy accountability and transparency in tech

02:44:58.360 --> 02:45:02.360
it's going to be we're going to have an interesting test coming up

02:45:02.360 --> 02:45:06.360
we're going to be doing a video on the main LTT channel that is all about

02:45:06.360 --> 02:45:10.360
PSU circuit that is about

02:45:10.360 --> 02:45:14.360
the incredible work that Lucas and

02:45:14.360 --> 02:45:18.360
the other people who work on PSU circuit but realistically

02:45:18.360 --> 02:45:22.360
mostly Lucas are doing to

02:45:22.360 --> 02:45:26.360
really shed light on what power supplies are good and worth buying

02:45:26.360 --> 02:45:30.360
this shows how our brain works I understand that is PSU circuit

02:45:30.360 --> 02:45:34.360
but you're talking about PSU circuit and I went to the website and you went to the youtube channel

02:45:34.360 --> 02:45:38.360
yeah sorry keep going

02:45:38.360 --> 02:45:42.360
anyway they're doing really really great work and I think it's going to be

02:45:42.360 --> 02:45:46.360
a real test of

02:45:46.360 --> 02:45:50.360
how much we can get people to care about this to see how much

02:45:50.360 --> 02:45:54.360
of a bump we see over here like how much of a

02:45:54.360 --> 02:45:58.360
how much ongoing interest we can generate and to be clear

02:45:58.360 --> 02:46:02.360
I want to make this extremely clear to Lucas and any Labs folks that might be watching

02:46:02.360 --> 02:46:04.360
I'm committed to the lab

02:46:06.360 --> 02:46:10.360
I also believe that that is the most important

02:46:10.360 --> 02:46:14.360
thing that we are doing here right now is increasing

02:46:14.360 --> 02:46:18.360
the general public's knowledge when they go to make a purchase decision

02:46:18.360 --> 02:46:22.360
and we have learning to do yeah we're not perfect

02:46:22.360 --> 02:46:26.360
but we are working on it and it is a goal

02:46:26.360 --> 02:46:30.360
whether it's a 12 year goal or whether it's a 12 month goal

02:46:30.360 --> 02:46:34.360
or realistically it's both because it's always a moving target

02:46:34.360 --> 02:46:38.360
but what this is going to be an indicator for me of

02:46:38.360 --> 02:46:42.360
is what the ceiling is on that

02:46:42.360 --> 02:46:44.360
what the cap is on it

02:46:46.360 --> 02:46:50.360
I hope that it's really high

02:46:50.360 --> 02:46:54.360
I hope that people care a lot and I know the videos are not perfect right now

02:46:54.360 --> 02:46:58.360
we've got the AI voice but I've seen

02:46:58.360 --> 02:47:02.360
people critical of it like can't you even pay a voice over after doing the thing

02:47:02.360 --> 02:47:06.360
and I'm like no no I can't

02:47:06.360 --> 02:47:10.360
because when we get 4.8 thousand views

02:47:10.360 --> 02:47:14.360
on something that is literally like I don't know 20 bucks

02:47:14.360 --> 02:47:18.360
I'm not hiring anyone to do anything for 20 bucks

02:47:18.360 --> 02:47:22.360
involved in any of this the testing is human

02:47:22.360 --> 02:47:26.360
the testing is done by qualified skilled human

02:47:26.360 --> 02:47:30.360
it's not really a financial play

02:47:30.360 --> 02:47:34.360
just with the testing being human you already lose money on

02:47:34.360 --> 02:47:38.360
every single one not even close

02:47:38.360 --> 02:47:42.360
but it has a value

02:47:42.360 --> 02:47:46.360
it's not about that I have

02:47:46.360 --> 02:47:50.360
personally in terms of just like the emotional

02:47:50.360 --> 02:47:54.360
burden that it lifts from me

02:47:54.360 --> 02:47:58.360
of not having to worry when we talk about a power supply in one of our videos

02:47:58.360 --> 02:48:02.360
because I know that Lucas looked at it like that's

02:48:02.360 --> 02:48:06.360
I'll buy the power supply tester again hire Lucas again

02:48:06.360 --> 02:48:10.360
that alone is 100% worth it for me oh Emily Seddon is watching

02:48:10.360 --> 02:48:14.360
today says yay PSU circuit nice she does a lot of work there

02:48:16.360 --> 02:48:20.360
yeah keep it up you guys this is important

02:48:20.360 --> 02:48:24.360
anyway we've got an LTT coming where we're going to be looking at the test suite and like really talking about it

02:48:24.360 --> 02:48:28.360
and there's a full dedicated video promoting it so I'm really excited about that

02:48:32.360 --> 02:48:36.360
but other than that I think I'm just not going to give a f*** anymore then

02:48:36.360 --> 02:48:40.360
nice will you read less comments along with that

02:48:40.360 --> 02:48:44.360
nope I'm addicted you know it

02:48:44.360 --> 02:48:48.360
for a von sake no

02:48:48.360 --> 02:48:52.360
I mean that's typical addict behavior that's actually how you can define

02:48:52.360 --> 02:48:56.360
addictive behavior is that regardless of the impact

02:48:56.360 --> 02:49:00.360
on yourself and others you continue doing it

02:49:00.360 --> 02:49:04.360
I am addicted to comments I still remember we were out

02:49:04.360 --> 02:49:08.360
kayaking and you were trying to read comments while

02:49:08.360 --> 02:49:12.360
we were kayaking yeah it makes sense you remember that I don't remember it

02:49:12.360 --> 02:49:16.360
but it's probably because you're reading comments yeah probably no I mean I remember kayaking

02:49:16.360 --> 02:49:20.360
yeah I don't remember reading comments while I was doing it it's unconscious

02:49:20.360 --> 02:49:22.360
it's like

02:49:24.360 --> 02:49:28.360
it's a lot I mean look

02:49:28.360 --> 02:49:32.360
there are worse vices yeah

02:49:32.360 --> 02:49:36.360
just saying there are

02:49:36.360 --> 02:49:40.360
I could have way worse vices significantly

02:49:40.360 --> 02:49:44.360
if that's my vice it's like

02:49:44.360 --> 02:49:48.360
hi I'm Linus and I'm addicted to YouTube

02:49:48.360 --> 02:49:52.360
come on it could be worse it could

02:49:52.360 --> 02:49:56.360
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I got a merch message for Luke oh nice wow thank you

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I have one queued up already Luke

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you said avoiding news felt wrong

02:53:28.360 --> 02:53:32.360
why? any tips for balance? my wife follows it all and I ignore it

02:53:32.360 --> 02:53:36.360
oh boy oh I'm sorry

02:53:36.360 --> 02:53:40.360
no this feels like a pre-show topic more than a main show topic

02:53:40.360 --> 02:53:44.360
but that didn't used to be true so let's send it anyways I don't know I feel like

02:53:44.360 --> 02:53:48.360
being completely ignorant of what's happening in the world is not

02:53:48.360 --> 02:53:52.360
good I appreciate personally

02:53:52.360 --> 02:53:56.360
being able to hold the conversation about as many things as possible

02:53:56.360 --> 02:54:00.360
with as many people as possible as something I've always tried to do like be

02:54:00.360 --> 02:54:04.360
at least informed enough to talk about something with as many people as you can

02:54:04.360 --> 02:54:08.360
I feel like there's a really effective way to learn is being able to have a conversation with someone

02:54:08.360 --> 02:54:12.360
about something so if you completely just stick your head into the ground

02:54:12.360 --> 02:54:16.360
and la la la and completely ignore everything happening in the world

02:54:16.360 --> 02:54:20.360
I feel like you're just contributing to your own ignorance at the same

02:54:20.360 --> 02:54:24.360
time if you let yourself

02:54:24.360 --> 02:54:28.360
be heavily and deeply manipulated by the multi

02:54:28.360 --> 02:54:32.360
multi-billion tens of billions many many thousands

02:54:32.360 --> 02:54:36.360
tens of thousands of people who are employed in spending incredible amounts

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of money to effectively mind control you into

02:54:40.360 --> 02:54:44.360
reading more and scrolling more and never leaving apps and

02:54:44.360 --> 02:54:48.360
spending money in different ways and doing things like that that you are also just letting yourself

02:54:48.360 --> 02:54:52.360
be used so I would

02:54:52.360 --> 02:54:56.360
employ personally like something that I do is time control

02:54:56.360 --> 02:55:00.360
methods so like almost every app that could do

02:55:00.360 --> 02:55:04.360
something like that to me on my phone has a time limit

02:55:04.360 --> 02:55:08.360
on it where it will close if I keep it open for too long

02:55:08.360 --> 02:55:12.360
a major frustration that I have with that is that

02:55:12.360 --> 02:55:16.360
all of those in my experience unless all of those that are built into my phone

02:55:16.360 --> 02:55:20.360
you might have a different experience maybe you know of some app that handles this

02:55:20.360 --> 02:55:24.360
better for you but I don't have an external app for it the ones built into

02:55:24.360 --> 02:55:28.360
my phone naturally it's far too easy to bypass

02:55:28.360 --> 02:55:32.360
so either you have enough will power it I don't personally have a problem with this

02:55:32.360 --> 02:55:36.360
but either you have enough willpower to listen to it when it tells you that you know

02:55:36.360 --> 02:55:40.360
you've spent 15 minutes in the YouTube app you should get out

02:55:40.360 --> 02:55:44.360
or if you can't find a

02:55:44.360 --> 02:55:48.360
more severe method that will not allow you to keep going

02:55:50.360 --> 02:55:54.360
but yeah I think it's just have more control of your own life

02:55:54.360 --> 02:55:58.360
but don't completely stick your head in the ground I think you should know what's happening in the world

02:55:58.360 --> 02:56:02.360
I think you should be informed but I think just reading

02:56:02.360 --> 02:56:06.360
negative news for 12 hours a day which is legitimately something a lot

02:56:06.360 --> 02:56:08.360
of people actually effectively do

02:56:10.360 --> 02:56:14.360
is horrifying for your brain it's really really really bad for your brain

02:56:16.360 --> 02:56:20.360
so go touch some grass go do something else spend time with people in your life

02:56:20.360 --> 02:56:24.360
in person there's a lot of things I talked about this before but like automated

02:56:24.360 --> 02:56:28.360
checkouts automated everything there's a lot of ways these days to

02:56:28.360 --> 02:56:32.360
not interact with people and then

02:56:32.360 --> 02:56:36.360
you're interacting with AI systems often that are overly nice to you

02:56:36.360 --> 02:56:40.360
so you I think as a people we are like

02:56:40.360 --> 02:56:44.360
losing our ability to understand that

02:56:44.360 --> 02:56:48.360
everyone else is going through horrifying things every day as well

02:56:48.360 --> 02:56:52.360
like if you think you have problems everybody has problems

02:56:52.360 --> 02:56:56.360
right and I think we kind of lose that empathy when you're not interfacing with people often

02:56:56.360 --> 02:57:00.360
you don't experience that so yeah again I don't know

02:57:00.360 --> 02:57:04.360
find your own middle ground use tools to fight

02:57:04.360 --> 02:57:08.360
because the way that I've described this in the past is the world

02:57:08.360 --> 02:57:12.360
is a constant PVP environment there is no escaping it

02:57:12.360 --> 02:57:16.360
ever ever so understand

02:57:16.360 --> 02:57:20.360
that there are more money than you could ever possibly

02:57:20.360 --> 02:57:24.360
properly fathom and tens and tens of thousands

02:57:24.360 --> 02:57:28.360
maybe I don't even know amount of people trying to fight actively

02:57:28.360 --> 02:57:32.360
for your attention and your time and you should try to

02:57:32.360 --> 02:57:36.360
win that as much as you can it doesn't mean you should completely ignore it

02:57:36.360 --> 02:57:40.360
but you should try to win that control your own time

02:57:40.360 --> 02:57:44.360
don't let yourself spiral don't let yourself death

02:57:44.360 --> 02:57:48.360
death scroll or whatever it's called doom doom scroll

02:57:48.360 --> 02:57:52.360
and get out of that and then hopefully your life is better

02:57:52.360 --> 02:57:56.360
and he's back and part of that also

02:57:56.360 --> 02:58:00.360
merch message for Linus when are you doing more women's underwear

02:58:02.360 --> 02:58:06.360
we had a long conversation about that

02:58:06.360 --> 02:58:10.360
on one of my Mondays off you know how I'm off on Mondays

02:58:10.360 --> 02:58:14.360
like Luke takes vacation I had like a

02:58:14.360 --> 02:58:18.360
I had like a three hour meeting with the merch team and one of the

02:58:18.360 --> 02:58:22.360
things that we discussed was what the heck is our strategy going to be

02:58:22.360 --> 02:58:26.360
for women's apparel and the

02:58:26.360 --> 02:58:30.360
challenge is that I think the fashion team did an

02:58:30.360 --> 02:58:34.360
outstanding job the women's clothing obviously I don't wear it but

02:58:34.360 --> 02:58:38.360
I live with someone who wears it regularly and who

02:58:38.360 --> 02:58:42.360
you know let me put it this way can afford nice clothes

02:58:42.360 --> 02:58:46.360
even though she's often too cheap to buy them but anyway my wife

02:58:46.360 --> 02:58:50.360
she can afford perfectly nice clothes and she has some very nice clothes

02:58:50.360 --> 02:58:54.360
and often gravitates towards her women's underwear

02:58:54.360 --> 02:58:58.360
our women's underwear and bras and clothes and stuff

02:58:58.360 --> 02:59:02.360
loves it so I think the fashion team did

02:59:02.360 --> 02:59:06.360
just an outstanding job of the design of the product but there's nothing that they can do

02:59:06.360 --> 02:59:10.360
about the fact that our viewer demographics are like

02:59:10.360 --> 02:59:14.360
97% male 96% male or whatever it works out to

02:59:14.360 --> 02:59:18.360
so with that in mind our

02:59:18.360 --> 02:59:22.360
women's products have not been commercially

02:59:22.360 --> 02:59:26.360
very successful we've sold some

02:59:26.360 --> 02:59:30.360
we've moved a little bit at launch and it would trickle out a little bit over time

02:59:30.360 --> 02:59:34.360
and then we'd have to kind of blow it away and that's not profitable, that's not sustainable

02:59:34.360 --> 02:59:38.360
so part of part of Teran's

02:59:38.360 --> 02:59:42.360
look at what exactly the crap it is that we're doing

02:59:42.360 --> 02:59:46.360
in the various parts of our business it's been almost two years

02:59:46.360 --> 02:59:50.360
since he started it feels like it's been longer

02:59:50.360 --> 02:59:54.360
has been trying to be a little bit more focused and intentful in our product launches

02:59:54.360 --> 02:59:58.360
how do we control risk, how do we

02:59:58.360 --> 03:00:02.360
mitigate that calculated risk that we're taking

03:00:02.360 --> 03:00:06.360
with an exit strategy for any project whether it's women's underwear

03:00:06.360 --> 03:00:10.360
weird elaborate video idea whatever it is

03:00:10.360 --> 03:00:14.360
how do we mitigate that risk we have

03:00:14.360 --> 03:00:18.360
as part of that, as sort of taking a step back and looking and going, okay, what are we doing right now

03:00:18.360 --> 03:00:22.360
we paused some women's apparel products

03:00:22.360 --> 03:00:26.360
projects that were that were on their way to being launched

03:00:26.360 --> 03:00:30.360
and we blew out and didn't reorder some of the ones

03:00:30.360 --> 03:00:34.360
that were not selling and were not sustainable or profitable for the business

03:00:36.360 --> 03:00:40.360
however in the three hour meeting we had a

03:00:40.360 --> 03:00:44.360
longer conversation about hey, you guys enjoy working on these

03:00:44.360 --> 03:00:48.360
you enjoy wearing them a lot of the fashion team is women

03:00:48.360 --> 03:00:52.360
and making products that they can use right, who doesn't

03:00:52.360 --> 03:00:56.360
that's something that as a company

03:00:56.360 --> 03:01:00.360
we want to try to support right

03:01:00.360 --> 03:01:04.360
but we have to do things that are sustainable and make sense

03:01:04.360 --> 03:01:08.360
so how do we do that and one of the things that I kind of pitched them

03:01:08.360 --> 03:01:12.360
is like, okay, we have a product that you guys know is great

03:01:12.360 --> 03:01:16.360
that I know is great because Yvonne freaking loves hers

03:01:16.360 --> 03:01:20.360
and says they're competitive with brands that cost literally like 40%

03:01:20.360 --> 03:01:22.360
80% more

03:01:24.360 --> 03:01:28.360
why don't we get this one over the line and when I push it to the audience

03:01:28.360 --> 03:01:32.360
when I present it to the audience I'm basically going to do it in a bit of a different way

03:01:32.360 --> 03:01:36.360
and I'm going to kind of go look guys so

03:01:36.360 --> 03:01:40.360
I'm not going to ask you to buy this if you don't need one

03:01:40.360 --> 03:01:44.360
you know, if you like this category of product, I'm not sure if I want to tell you guys

03:01:44.360 --> 03:01:48.360
what it is yet, but whatever it is if you guys like this category of product

03:01:48.360 --> 03:01:52.360
and you happen to buy one I've no idea what this is for

03:01:52.360 --> 03:01:56.360
if you like it please do something

03:01:56.360 --> 03:02:00.360
so we can keep making it tell somebody

03:02:00.360 --> 03:02:04.360
you know that we did

03:02:04.360 --> 03:02:08.360
sponsoring other tech creators would you ever sponsor

03:02:08.360 --> 03:02:12.360
demographics on YouTube that are more

03:02:12.360 --> 03:02:16.360
like female shifted honestly I know what they would do

03:02:16.360 --> 03:02:20.360
maybe it's like my own insecurity but I kind of look at it and I go like

03:02:20.360 --> 03:02:24.360
who wants a clothing sponsorship from us because we don't have a full

03:02:24.360 --> 03:02:28.360
people who like money but we don't have a full lineup

03:02:28.360 --> 03:02:32.360
everyone I can't do like an underwear sponsorship

03:02:32.360 --> 03:02:36.360
and then have people land on our site and the only thing we have is underwear like it's hard to get the

03:02:36.360 --> 03:02:40.360
it's hard to get the ball rolling we're not really a feminine clothing

03:02:40.360 --> 03:02:44.360
brand and so we're not going to get the ROI out, I can tell you right now

03:02:44.360 --> 03:02:48.360
we are not going to get the ROI out of that sponsorship at all, not even close

03:02:48.360 --> 03:02:52.360
we're basically just gifting money which I mean sure

03:02:52.360 --> 03:02:56.360
we thought we will do and have done sponsorships for our

03:02:56.360 --> 03:03:00.360
products that we knew were just essentially just gifting the money

03:03:00.360 --> 03:03:04.360
I'm saying this I know you're aware a lot of marketing isn't about

03:03:04.360 --> 03:03:08.360
the measurable ROI for that piece of marketing, I'm saying this mostly for them

03:03:08.360 --> 03:03:12.360
there's the whole funnel, awareness I get it

03:03:12.360 --> 03:03:16.360
but even from an awareness perspective when I say ROI I don't necessarily mean

03:03:16.360 --> 03:03:20.360
money I mean some return

03:03:20.360 --> 03:03:24.360
here's a weird idea I'm not trying to go

03:03:24.360 --> 03:03:28.360
out most of the world is in

03:03:28.360 --> 03:03:32.360
hetero relationships I'm not saying everyone is but

03:03:32.360 --> 03:03:36.360
what if you did it shortly before like Father's Day or something

03:03:36.360 --> 03:03:40.360
so they would go there to buy their own underwear or whatever

03:03:40.360 --> 03:03:44.360
and then see that there's other potential gifts that they could buy or shortly before Christmas

03:03:46.360 --> 03:03:50.360
I don't know because it could be for their

03:03:50.360 --> 03:03:54.360
husband or their partner or it could be for a dad

03:03:54.360 --> 03:03:58.360
who knows Valentine's Day, that's a pretty good one

03:03:58.360 --> 03:04:02.360
the issue is not selling the men's stuff though, like that's fine

03:04:02.360 --> 03:04:06.360
yeah but you're doing that marketing anyways I'm saying like maybe

03:04:06.360 --> 03:04:08.360
you can double dip slightly

03:04:10.360 --> 03:04:14.360
I think that's something that I would have to lean on like Sammy and Artie

03:04:14.360 --> 03:04:18.360
and Dave and stuff to kind of look at because that's one of my

03:04:18.360 --> 03:04:22.360
expertise one of our problems is that we make really killer stuff

03:04:22.360 --> 03:04:26.360
but not everyone really knows about it yeah definitely

03:04:26.360 --> 03:04:30.360
and if you know if our demographic is only 4% women

03:04:30.360 --> 03:04:34.360
I can check that and then we make women stuff

03:04:34.360 --> 03:04:38.360
very few of the women of the world are gonna know that we made this

03:04:38.360 --> 03:04:42.360
so like at a certain point we have to tell them

03:04:42.360 --> 03:04:46.360
well I guess what I'm saying is I will need at least some

03:04:46.360 --> 03:04:48.360
of your help

03:04:50.360 --> 03:04:54.360
you know what, screw it they're yoga pants

03:04:54.360 --> 03:04:58.360
they're really good they're like killer

03:04:58.360 --> 03:05:02.360
and obviously like we have kind of a tech angle on it

03:05:02.360 --> 03:05:06.360
they have decent pockets whoa

03:05:06.360 --> 03:05:10.360
so it would be pretty cool

03:05:10.360 --> 03:05:14.360
and it's a great product we'd already done multiple sample rounds and like it was

03:05:14.360 --> 03:05:18.360
essentially done and then we were just like we pumped the brakes

03:05:18.360 --> 03:05:22.360
and we're gonna do it and you know let

03:05:22.360 --> 03:05:26.360
help us out chat's freaking out about the pockets

03:05:26.360 --> 03:05:30.360
well yeah of course they are it's like we can

03:05:30.360 --> 03:05:34.360
you should have just said that what

03:05:34.360 --> 03:05:38.360
Dan in Floatplane chat instead of just saying it said I need to get back into doing squats then

03:05:40.360 --> 03:05:44.360
yoga pants programming socks

03:05:44.360 --> 03:05:48.360
we got a gym at smash champs we have programming socks?

03:05:48.360 --> 03:05:52.360
we should we totally should

03:05:54.360 --> 03:05:58.360
so I actually was I was pretty bang on

03:05:58.360 --> 03:06:02.360
95.5% male 3.3% female

03:06:02.360 --> 03:06:06.360
1.2% user specified so there you go

03:06:06.360 --> 03:06:10.360
hey there's the age demo in case you guys were wondering, no LTT is not for kids

03:06:10.360 --> 03:06:14.360
it's for 25 to 34s you're lying

03:06:14.360 --> 03:06:18.360
people like knowledgably talk about how

03:06:18.360 --> 03:06:22.360
the discerning viewer watches whatever and LTT is for children

03:06:22.360 --> 03:06:26.360
no it's not, it's just for people who have a sense of f***ing humor

03:06:28.360 --> 03:06:32.360
alright what else we got today I have two more merch messages for you

03:06:32.360 --> 03:06:36.360
good lord, alright hit me I just bought a UPS to protect my setup

03:06:36.360 --> 03:06:40.360
how does it clean up Ethernet and coax I understand the electrical waves

03:06:40.360 --> 03:06:44.360
but the internet ports confuse me an avid fan waiting for a work promotion

03:06:44.360 --> 03:06:48.360
to join flowplay have never understood or used them

03:06:48.360 --> 03:06:52.360
actually exactly the same for me

03:06:52.360 --> 03:06:56.360
I kind of thought it was almost like a a grounding isolation or something

03:06:56.360 --> 03:07:00.360
just a bridging point I thought like you just want all your cables going there

03:07:00.360 --> 03:07:04.360
I've never used either of them I have no idea

03:07:04.360 --> 03:07:08.360
we are a bad resource for this question I apologize cool, yeah

03:07:08.360 --> 03:07:12.360
go ask on Quora Ethernet?

03:07:12.360 --> 03:07:16.360
if it hits your house with the internet that is in the house you got the tubes

03:07:16.360 --> 03:07:20.360
you got too much data there's too much data

03:07:20.360 --> 03:07:24.360
it can only do one gig you're sitting at 1.4 it's going to explode

03:07:24.360 --> 03:07:28.360
aux champion says I've had a surge at a workplace that fried some Ethernet ports

03:07:28.360 --> 03:07:32.360
coax makes sense too but Ethernet would have to be

03:07:32.360 --> 03:07:36.360
lightning coms data transfer

03:07:36.360 --> 03:07:40.360
if you plug like 10 gig I doubt it

03:07:40.360 --> 03:07:44.360
I don't know what a wonderful question

03:07:44.360 --> 03:07:48.360
chicken sloop says my Eaton only does 100 megabit per second on its protected jack

03:07:48.360 --> 03:07:52.360
see that could be a problem what is that for?

03:07:52.360 --> 03:07:56.360
induced voltage into the line maybe how does that work with PoE?

03:07:56.360 --> 03:08:00.360
that seems so crazy though I'm just not going to do it

03:08:00.360 --> 03:08:04.360
I'm going to live on the wild side if my Ethernet port gets fried

03:08:04.360 --> 03:08:08.360
I'm going to do something I'm going to get an Ethernet card

03:08:08.360 --> 03:08:12.360
and I'm going to put it in my computer dang

03:08:12.360 --> 03:08:16.360
in current year people aren't going to like it

03:08:16.360 --> 03:08:20.360
look at lines with this bougie Ethernet card what a loser

03:08:20.360 --> 03:08:24.360
flexing his Ethernet card like some kind of chode

03:08:24.360 --> 03:08:28.360
you would probably get a ridiculous one I'm going to get a killer neck

03:08:28.360 --> 03:08:32.360
never would they have the big days on them this guy

03:08:32.360 --> 03:08:36.360
still have one so much money you can afford

03:08:36.360 --> 03:08:40.360
I've got a necklace that is a killer neck

03:08:40.360 --> 03:08:44.360
that is sick one percent

03:08:44.360 --> 03:08:48.360
or stuff he got that when he was far below

03:08:48.360 --> 03:08:52.360
one percent one percent grind sets on mindset

03:08:52.360 --> 03:08:56.360
he's always been there this is it

03:08:56.360 --> 03:09:00.360
how did you find that picture oh my god

03:09:00.360 --> 03:09:04.360
someone else has one I know the heatsink was a thing

03:09:04.360 --> 03:09:08.360
I didn't think the I didn't think the necklaces were a thing

03:09:08.360 --> 03:09:12.360
I knew about the necklace before I saw yours that's hilarious

03:09:12.360 --> 03:09:16.360
I had no idea that is the coolest thing

03:09:16.360 --> 03:09:20.360
someone is selling this right now I want another one

03:09:20.360 --> 03:09:24.360
35 bucks this is going to be sold so fast

03:09:24.360 --> 03:09:28.360
this is sold immediately they were crazy to

03:09:28.360 --> 03:09:32.360
market down from 50 bucks they easily got 50 bucks

03:09:32.360 --> 03:09:36.360
they didn't know they were going to randomly end up on Wanshow you got them

03:09:36.360 --> 03:09:40.360
this is the this looked crazy back in the day

03:09:40.360 --> 03:09:44.360
I need to start turning some of my old crap that has cool logos on it into jewelry

03:09:44.360 --> 03:09:48.360
yeah that would be a cool trick you should turn some tricks

03:09:48.360 --> 03:09:50.360
yeah

03:09:52.360 --> 03:09:56.360
this guy in my life is going to get very angry if I start doing that off the side

03:09:56.360 --> 03:10:00.360
but how about another merch message does he have a feathered cap?

03:10:00.360 --> 03:10:02.360
you don't know that

03:10:04.360 --> 03:10:08.360
this hat is not relevant hey LLD

03:10:08.360 --> 03:10:12.360
odds on the NVIDIA Shield 2 happening if not we will be stuck

03:10:12.360 --> 03:10:16.360
with an ad invested boxes from Google or Amazon or Apple or will someone else

03:10:16.360 --> 03:10:20.360
make a top competitor with decent specs and AI features I think I've

03:10:20.360 --> 03:10:24.360
I think I've talked about my conspiracy theory that NVIDIA just doesn't bother

03:10:24.360 --> 03:10:28.360
until Nintendo orders

03:10:28.360 --> 03:10:32.360
a bunch of SOCs in bulk and then they'll just like use that or something

03:10:32.360 --> 03:10:36.360
that's my theory I think that the Shield 2 is going to be like

03:10:36.360 --> 03:10:40.360
a modified Switch 2 that seems like

03:10:40.360 --> 03:10:44.360
a pretty legit theory it's sold really

03:10:44.360 --> 03:10:48.360
someone already bought it and it's gone

03:10:48.360 --> 03:10:52.360
yeah the Shield is overkill Campbell for certain things

03:10:52.360 --> 03:10:56.360
but we needed updated for AI upscaling because I think it only does AI upscaling

03:10:56.360 --> 03:11:00.360
up to I forget the resolutions

03:11:00.360 --> 03:11:04.360
that it works at but it needs believe it or not it's like the one

03:11:04.360 --> 03:11:08.360
product in my life that I'm like needs more AI

03:11:08.360 --> 03:11:12.360
because the upscaling on it is really good now but it could be better

03:11:12.360 --> 03:11:16.360
it's first firmware update in like 2 years and it fixes

03:11:16.360 --> 03:11:20.360
some small bugs but there's still some stuff because it's still on HDMI 1.4

03:11:20.360 --> 03:11:24.360
if I recall wait is it HDMI 1.4

03:11:24.360 --> 03:11:28.360
NVIDIA, Shield, Pro HDMI

03:11:28.360 --> 03:11:32.360
why is 2.1 auto complete does not have an HDMI 2.1

03:11:32.360 --> 03:11:36.360
yeah I forget I think it's HDMI 1.4

03:11:36.360 --> 03:11:40.360
is it it's not 2.0 is it

03:11:40.360 --> 03:11:44.360
guys tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me in chat I forget

03:11:46.360 --> 03:11:50.360
what HDMI oh no it's 2.0 it can do 4k 60

03:11:50.360 --> 03:11:54.360
but anyway I want I want HDMI 2.1 I want more AI

03:11:54.360 --> 03:11:58.360
and other than that I don't think I really care I mean it'd be nice if it could run

03:11:58.360 --> 03:12:02.360
Android games better but I don't really play those on it so this I found

03:12:02.360 --> 03:12:06.360
now people are telling me it's 1.4 which one is it I know it's got it's got to

03:12:06.360 --> 03:12:10.360
be 2.0 doesn't it help me out guys

03:12:12.360 --> 03:12:16.360
I found the like what is this

03:12:16.360 --> 03:12:20.360
hold on a second this is the

03:12:20.360 --> 03:12:24.360
2007 tech promo for

03:12:24.360 --> 03:12:28.360
2.0 apparently 2.0 okay so the

03:12:28.360 --> 03:12:32.360
2007 tech promo for killer networking cards winning his speed

03:12:32.360 --> 03:12:36.360
winning his performance winning his killer ultimate ping

03:12:36.360 --> 03:12:38.360
ping throttle max FPS game first

03:12:40.360 --> 03:12:44.360
it was it was so serious they were very serious

03:12:44.360 --> 03:12:48.360
now I just don't install their drivers because they make my computer worse oh yeah

03:12:48.360 --> 03:12:52.360
100% out of the mighty fall Dan do you want to give me some audio

03:12:52.360 --> 03:12:56.360
sure okay we ready

03:12:56.360 --> 03:13:00.360
I think so oh let's go

03:13:00.360 --> 03:13:04.360
that should be playing it it's not just a network card

03:13:04.360 --> 03:13:08.360
it's a killer I knew that voice was coming

03:13:08.360 --> 03:13:10.360
that's a good voice

03:13:14.360 --> 03:13:18.360
oh stop handicapping yourself

03:13:18.360 --> 03:13:22.360
oh oh it's been 14 years

03:13:22.360 --> 03:13:26.360
killer bypass is your slower network stack

03:13:28.360 --> 03:13:32.360
and offloads to killer's own Lennox computer on a card

03:13:32.360 --> 03:13:36.360
whoa killer has been optimized for online gaming performance

03:13:40.360 --> 03:13:44.360
it's not just a network card it's a killer

03:13:52.360 --> 03:13:56.360
and they sold tons of these I personally know at least two people

03:13:56.360 --> 03:14:00.360
that bought them literally just because they looked cool I'm not kidding

03:14:00.360 --> 03:14:04.360
figured it out after the fact yep you know one of them

03:14:04.360 --> 03:14:06.360
I bet you can

03:14:08.360 --> 03:14:12.360
don't but I bet you can all I'll say is one letter

03:14:12.360 --> 03:14:16.360
the letter is H

03:14:20.360 --> 03:14:24.360
I knew he would get it I knew he would get it

03:14:26.360 --> 03:14:28.360
I think the other person was his friend

03:14:34.360 --> 03:14:38.360
anyways online games get better

03:14:38.360 --> 03:14:42.360
all the time but what about your network card

03:14:44.360 --> 03:14:48.360
it's a killer oh man

03:14:48.360 --> 03:14:52.360
I will never forget this video

03:14:52.360 --> 03:14:56.360
I will never forget it good stuff

03:14:56.360 --> 03:15:00.360
are we still doing merch messages no now just do topics until you're done

03:15:00.360 --> 03:15:04.360
cool tech plane update speaking of

03:15:04.360 --> 03:15:08.360
not giving any f***s anymore actually no let's do that later

03:15:08.360 --> 03:15:12.360
let's get through the real topics first the UK

03:15:12.360 --> 03:15:16.360
will not tighten laws to protect against games being shut down

03:15:16.360 --> 03:15:20.360
in a lengthy response to a petition created in response to Ubisoft's shutdown

03:15:20.360 --> 03:15:24.360
of the crew the UK government announced that it has no plans to change

03:15:24.360 --> 03:15:28.360
consumer laws around digital obsolescence the government went on to explain that the game companies

03:15:28.360 --> 03:15:32.360
are bound by existing consumer protection legislation including 2015's

03:15:32.360 --> 03:15:36.360
the consumer rights act and 2008's consumer protection from unfair

03:15:36.360 --> 03:15:40.360
trading regulations and if customers are led to believe a game

03:15:40.360 --> 03:15:44.360
will remain playable indefinitely for certain systems despite the end of physical support

03:15:44.360 --> 03:15:48.360
the CPR may require the game to remain technically feasible for example available

03:15:48.360 --> 03:15:52.360
offline to play under those circumstances opinion Jordan Block the government's

03:15:52.360 --> 03:15:56.360
response spent a lot of time government explaining that businesses need

03:15:56.360 --> 03:16:00.360
to make money but it also appears that they think existing laws may be enough

03:16:00.360 --> 03:16:04.360
if they are properly enforced which

03:16:04.360 --> 03:16:08.360
someone would have to force them to do which seems very unlikely

03:16:08.360 --> 03:16:12.360
at this time also UK related

03:16:12.360 --> 03:16:16.360
but the UK has demanded access to Apple users encrypted

03:16:16.360 --> 03:16:20.360
data the Washington Post reports that the UK

03:16:20.360 --> 03:16:24.360
home office has demanded that Apple create a backdoor to allow government

03:16:24.360 --> 03:16:28.360
access to encrypted data stored on iCloud by Apple users worldwide

03:16:28.360 --> 03:16:32.360
using what Apple called advanced data protection or ADP

03:16:32.360 --> 03:16:36.360
the demand was made under the UK Investigatory Powers Act of 2016

03:16:36.360 --> 03:16:40.360
which makes it a criminal offence to reveal that the government has ever made such a demand

03:16:40.360 --> 03:16:44.360
Apple can appear to Apple can appeal

03:16:44.360 --> 03:16:48.360
I think what?

03:16:48.360 --> 03:16:52.360
Apple can appeal to a secret technical panel

03:16:52.360 --> 03:16:56.360
but cannot delay complying during an appeal

03:16:56.360 --> 03:17:00.360
no way the US government has previously

03:17:00.360 --> 03:17:04.360
asked for this but Apple has pointedly refused currently

03:17:04.360 --> 03:17:08.360
only the Apple account holder can access data stored in this way Apple itself

03:17:08.360 --> 03:17:12.360
cannot view it Apple has previously said it would pull encryption services

03:17:12.360 --> 03:17:16.360
like ADP from the UK market rather than comply with such government demands

03:17:16.360 --> 03:17:20.360
telling parliament it would never build a backdoor in its products

03:17:20.360 --> 03:17:24.360
however pulling encryption services is

03:17:24.360 --> 03:17:28.360
worse in my opinion

03:17:28.360 --> 03:17:32.360
the UK and FBI in particular have said that encryption

03:17:32.360 --> 03:17:36.360
lets terrorists and child abusers hide more easily tech companies have pushed back

03:17:36.360 --> 03:17:40.360
stressing a right to privacy and personal communication and arguing that

03:17:40.360 --> 03:17:44.360
backdoors for law enforcement are often exploited by criminals and can be abused

03:17:44.360 --> 03:17:48.360
by authoritarian regimes I don't know if I agree about the pulling encryption thing

03:17:48.360 --> 03:17:52.360
and let me explain why on the surface level I do think I agree with you

03:17:52.360 --> 03:17:56.360
but if they build a backdoor I think that gives other parties

03:17:56.360 --> 03:18:00.360
like the FBI a stronger argument

03:18:00.360 --> 03:18:04.360
for like hey give us that too sure

03:18:04.360 --> 03:18:08.360
I think if they're just like we are literally never doing that then they don't open that box

03:18:08.360 --> 03:18:12.360
they don't open that door if they just take away ADP

03:18:12.360 --> 03:18:16.360
then that gives the US government the ability to say

03:18:16.360 --> 03:18:20.360
hey take it away here too I don't know I think it's the exact same thing

03:18:20.360 --> 03:18:24.360
personally I'm less likely to do that though

03:18:24.360 --> 03:18:28.360
because the US government supports encryption I mean the US government

03:18:28.360 --> 03:18:32.360
seems to change its stance on it every four years the US government does a 180

03:18:32.360 --> 03:18:36.360
because the last guy the last guy loved it

03:18:36.360 --> 03:18:40.360
why f***ing hate it a few months ago the US government supported encryption

03:18:40.360 --> 03:18:44.360
who knows what they do now discussion question

03:18:44.360 --> 03:18:46.360
who are the good guys at this point

03:18:48.360 --> 03:18:52.360
I don't know anyway UK keep UK

03:18:52.360 --> 03:18:56.360
and AMD has outsold Intel

03:18:56.360 --> 03:19:00.360
in the data center for the first time ever

03:19:00.360 --> 03:19:04.360
genuinely crazy on Tuesday AMD announced their Q4 2024 earnings

03:19:04.360 --> 03:19:08.360
and for the first time they beat Intel in the data center

03:19:08.360 --> 03:19:12.360
their revenue in Q4 2024 was 7.858 billion up 24% year over year

03:19:12.360 --> 03:19:16.360
and their data center business accounted for nearly half of that

03:19:16.360 --> 03:19:20.360
totaling 3.89 billion a nice

03:19:20.360 --> 03:19:24.360
69% increase year over year the funny thing about this is that Intel's data center revenue

03:19:24.360 --> 03:19:28.360
was 3.4 billion making it the first time in history

03:19:28.360 --> 03:19:32.360
oh no this is just the same thing again anyway that said

03:19:32.360 --> 03:19:36.360
analysts were expecting more from AMD with their instinct MI300 series

03:19:36.360 --> 03:19:38.360
AI GPUs failing to catch on

03:19:40.360 --> 03:19:44.360
why can't people just be like why can't we just celebrate wins

03:19:44.360 --> 03:19:48.360
that's an insane historical win I am disappointed absolutely wild

03:19:48.360 --> 03:19:52.360
hell yeah do you want to do one

03:19:52.360 --> 03:19:56.360
sure tech plane update I'm kidding not yet

03:19:56.360 --> 03:20:00.360
let's see here oh there's not much left yeah we're pretty close

03:20:00.360 --> 03:20:04.360
UK UK AMD tech plane

03:20:04.360 --> 03:20:08.360
why are you reading all the collapsed ones Rooster Teeth is under

03:20:08.360 --> 03:20:12.360
management Rooster Teeth media company

03:20:12.360 --> 03:20:16.360
and Rooster Teeth the media company and YouTube channel was shut down last year

03:20:16.360 --> 03:20:20.360
on May 15th 2024 after a slow decline in viewership

03:20:20.360 --> 03:20:24.360
two days ago February 5th the YouTube channel posted a video

03:20:24.360 --> 03:20:28.360
titled homecoming which was actually it was pretty good

03:20:28.360 --> 03:20:32.360
which shows original co-founder Bernie Burns amazing name

03:20:32.360 --> 03:20:36.360
walking back into the original building that was the Rooster Teeth office

03:20:36.360 --> 03:20:40.360
as well as a blog post that was posted on their website stating that he and his wife

03:20:40.360 --> 03:20:44.360
Ashley have acquired Rooster Teeth Rooster Teeth

03:20:44.360 --> 03:20:48.360
the direction Rooster Teeth will be taking going forward is still unclear the only things that are

03:20:48.360 --> 03:20:52.360
confirmed are the following it is just Bernie and his wife that purchased

03:20:52.360 --> 03:20:56.360
and are working at this time no other past employees and only a couple

03:20:56.360 --> 03:21:00.360
of their IPs have been purchased such as Red vs. Blue, Camp Camp

03:21:00.360 --> 03:21:04.360
and the RT podcast discussion question good for them if

03:21:04.360 --> 03:21:08.360
Linus media group had gone through the same fate being bought out and slowly died

03:21:08.360 --> 03:21:12.360
do you think you would want to walk back in and repurchase it to try and revive

03:21:12.360 --> 03:21:16.360
it and I think you would

03:21:16.360 --> 03:21:20.360
even though I think right now I'm going to answer for you

03:21:20.360 --> 03:21:24.360
I'm going to say that I think you would because even if you might say no right now

03:21:24.360 --> 03:21:28.360
you have never let NCX go and at this point in time you've worked here

03:21:28.360 --> 03:21:32.360
longer so what bring it you know what I don't think so if it

03:21:32.360 --> 03:21:36.360
gets trashed you'd be sitting there like I could bring it back I could do it

03:21:36.360 --> 03:21:40.360
I know it but I still want to bring NCX back

03:21:40.360 --> 03:21:44.360
yeah this is my point there is no way

03:21:44.360 --> 03:21:48.360
I don't care what you say if you try to say you wouldn't I don't believe you at all

03:21:48.360 --> 03:21:50.360
I might make another offer

03:21:52.360 --> 03:21:56.360
exactly that's why I was so confident I could

03:21:56.360 --> 03:22:00.360
answer that it's hard for me to put myself in those

03:22:00.360 --> 03:22:04.360
shoes though because at this point having not taken the offer

03:22:04.360 --> 03:22:08.360
I just don't think I'd sell I think I'd just

03:22:08.360 --> 03:22:12.360
walk away and just

03:22:12.360 --> 03:22:16.360
I think I'd mothball that felt like the time

03:22:16.360 --> 03:22:20.360
that was the one if it was going to be one that was the one

03:22:22.360 --> 03:22:26.360
but then hearing you talk about what are you going to be doing in 12 years

03:22:26.360 --> 03:22:30.360
it's hard to imagine myself making youtuber thumbnail faces

03:22:30.360 --> 03:22:34.360
in 12 years I don't know I don't know the answer to that

03:22:34.360 --> 03:22:36.360
and

03:22:38.360 --> 03:22:42.360
people might disagree with this in my opinion transformative tech has slowed

03:22:42.360 --> 03:22:46.360
down dramatically if we try to look at the 12 years that

03:22:46.360 --> 03:22:50.360
happened from when we were 10 to 22

03:22:50.360 --> 03:22:54.360
crazy not even close

03:22:54.360 --> 03:22:58.360
it's crazy we're still using desktops

03:22:58.360 --> 03:23:02.360
you know phones came out we're still using phones

03:23:02.360 --> 03:23:06.360
most usages on phones now they just do a lot more stuff we have smartwatches now

03:23:06.360 --> 03:23:10.360
which is just a smaller phone strapped to your wrist

03:23:10.360 --> 03:23:14.360
so like I don't know part of me wants to be

03:23:14.360 --> 03:23:18.360
like is you know online roughly this shape

03:23:18.360 --> 03:23:22.360
or roughly this shape video even still going to be a thing but then

03:23:22.360 --> 03:23:26.360
transformative tech has really slowed down I'm telling you last week

03:23:26.360 --> 03:23:30.360
cybernetics we're doing legs

03:23:30.360 --> 03:23:34.360
become a vtuber but like no actually

03:23:34.360 --> 03:23:38.360
because that's what everyone is now we've talked about that

03:23:38.360 --> 03:23:42.360
that is something that we have like I've spoken with Teran about

03:23:42.360 --> 03:23:46.360
that being a trend that I've kind of identified it's something that we talked about

03:23:46.360 --> 03:23:50.360
as a potential direction for ShortCircuit or first off for ShortCircuit for a

03:23:50.360 --> 03:23:54.360
PSU circuit so we went with just the top down

03:23:54.360 --> 03:23:58.360
product view AI voice but an evolution of that could be

03:23:58.360 --> 03:24:02.360
a vtuber host power man

03:24:02.360 --> 03:24:06.360
would this be like an LTD branded character that you would do? I don't know

03:24:06.360 --> 03:24:10.360
I thought I was just trying to imagine people with power man power man

03:24:10.360 --> 03:24:14.360
probably not the best choice in the current political climate but good idea

03:24:14.360 --> 03:24:18.360
Luke oh my goodness

03:24:18.360 --> 03:24:22.360
oh no oh no

03:24:24.360 --> 03:24:28.360
oh no anyway

03:24:28.360 --> 03:24:32.360
cool so what are we talking about?

03:24:32.360 --> 03:24:36.360
we were talking about rooster teeth and their revival

03:24:36.360 --> 03:24:40.360
yeah so would I do it? I'm gonna say no

03:24:40.360 --> 03:24:44.360
they were out for five years five years a long time and that

03:24:44.360 --> 03:24:48.360
wait what? rooster teeth? no no Bernie

03:24:48.360 --> 03:24:52.360
he left like 2020 or something like that like before the

03:24:52.360 --> 03:24:56.360
swirling the toilet for all these years

03:24:56.360 --> 03:25:00.360
oh maybe I would I don't know you totally would

03:25:00.360 --> 03:25:04.360
I don't know but he just didn't like himself and his wife

03:25:04.360 --> 03:25:08.360
like okay you're telling me you tell it yeah no

03:25:08.360 --> 03:25:12.360
like you're not still here you would try to ring the gong

03:25:12.360 --> 03:25:16.360
and get the gang back together I am a thousand percent confident

03:25:16.360 --> 03:25:20.360
in how you would do this I would get a discord message at one in the

03:25:20.360 --> 03:25:24.360
morning be like hey what

03:25:24.360 --> 03:25:28.360
what if we bought it back what if we did it dude

03:25:28.360 --> 03:25:32.360
we can do it we can win show back together

03:25:32.360 --> 03:25:34.360
message Dan

03:25:36.360 --> 03:25:40.360
I'd be there and this is why

03:25:40.360 --> 03:25:44.360
because you know it you know it I hope you know it

03:25:44.360 --> 03:25:48.360
would you join them yeah and that's why you would do it

03:25:48.360 --> 03:25:52.360
we'll get the band back together only fly back from Mars

03:25:54.360 --> 03:25:58.360
I'll float my super yacht I'll float my

03:25:58.360 --> 03:26:02.360
super gamer yacht back and then take the gamer plane and then we'll get it going again

03:26:02.360 --> 03:26:06.360
all right let's talk about Google's 4a into

03:26:06.360 --> 03:26:10.360
screwing the pixel 4a earlier that's really funny

03:26:10.360 --> 03:26:14.360
by the way who wrote this Adam of course it was earlier this month

03:26:14.360 --> 03:26:18.360
Google pushed an unexpected automatic update to the end of life pixel 4a

03:26:18.360 --> 03:26:20.360
what new features does it bring

03:26:22.360 --> 03:26:26.360
lower battery life according to a post on the pixel support blog

03:26:26.360 --> 03:26:30.360
certain pixel 4a devices will receive an update that includes new battery management

03:26:30.360 --> 03:26:34.360
features to improve the stability of your battery's performance so the battery may last for shorter periods between charges

03:26:34.360 --> 03:26:38.360
why well the support document doesn't give a reason

03:26:38.360 --> 03:26:42.360
Ars Technica reached out to Google but as of the time of writing hasn't

03:26:42.360 --> 03:26:46.360
received any clarification but it turns out that it wasn't a small reduction

03:26:46.360 --> 03:26:50.360
with several users reporting a halving of battery life

03:26:50.360 --> 03:26:54.360
and some reporting less than two hours of battery life

03:26:54.360 --> 03:26:58.360
Adam said it is not clear what the proportion of screen on time to idle time

03:26:58.360 --> 03:27:02.360
is in those cases though Ars Technica noted that this is

03:27:02.360 --> 03:27:06.360
similar to what Apple did with their iPhones before 2017 only

03:27:06.360 --> 03:27:10.360
Google seems to want to get out in front of it and be transparent rather than waiting until they get sued

03:27:10.360 --> 03:27:14.360
Google is offering affected owners free battery replacement

03:27:14.360 --> 03:27:18.360
$30 of cash money or $100 in Google Store credit towards a new pixel phone

03:27:18.360 --> 03:27:22.360
all of these options seem to have issues

03:27:22.360 --> 03:27:26.360
some users who received the battery swap are reporting that they still have limited capacity

03:27:26.360 --> 03:27:30.360
Google has removed the old firmware from their website making it more difficult for users to roll back

03:27:30.360 --> 03:27:34.360
using a trusted source that sucks and users who want the cash

03:27:34.360 --> 03:27:38.360
use a service called Pioneer which asks for your social security number

03:27:38.360 --> 03:27:42.360
checking account details and other personal information and also charges $30 a year

03:27:42.360 --> 03:27:46.360
to accounts that receive less than $2,000 per 12 months meaning that users need to

03:27:46.360 --> 03:27:50.360
make sure to cancel their accounts Finally, the Google Store credit only applies to pixel phones

03:27:50.360 --> 03:27:54.360
and can't be combined with other products on sale

03:27:56.360 --> 03:28:00.360
Yikes Big Yikes

03:28:00.360 --> 03:28:04.360
Finally, other than tech plane a viewer finds

03:28:04.360 --> 03:28:08.360
an LTT bottle lid on a non-LTT

03:28:08.360 --> 03:28:12.360
bottle to clean a bottle I bought from the gym

03:28:12.360 --> 03:28:16.360
and saw this so as you guys know

03:28:16.360 --> 03:28:20.360
recently we developed a new and improved version

03:28:20.360 --> 03:28:24.360
of our twist top spout lid

03:28:24.360 --> 03:28:28.360
it has the threads on the outside now so on the outside rather than the inside

03:28:28.360 --> 03:28:32.360
to make it easier to clean and it has, you can see them, they're very distinctive

03:28:32.360 --> 03:28:36.360
these nice little pull tabs for both this O-ring

03:28:36.360 --> 03:28:40.360
and actually the second O-ring in here to make them easier to clean

03:28:40.360 --> 03:28:44.360
it's also more durable people hate it when I do this

03:28:44.360 --> 03:28:48.360
but that's why I do it anyway it's really hard to break

03:28:48.360 --> 03:28:52.360
the handle part I like it, I think you just might want to mute the mics next time

03:28:52.360 --> 03:28:56.360
sorry about that anyway, it's really good

03:28:56.360 --> 03:29:00.360
and someone got it on a water bottle that

03:29:00.360 --> 03:29:04.360
was not from LTT Store from Niklite

03:29:04.360 --> 03:29:08.360
there are a few potential options here one could be that

03:29:08.360 --> 03:29:12.360
the factory that produces our lids is using our mold without our approval

03:29:12.360 --> 03:29:16.360
which is bad because A, that's our IP

03:29:16.360 --> 03:29:20.360
that we designed and B it wears out the mold

03:29:20.360 --> 03:29:24.360
molds have a limited shelf life they last for a long time

03:29:24.360 --> 03:29:28.360
but they do have a limited shelf life so they should not do that

03:29:28.360 --> 03:29:32.360
one other possibility is that this gym

03:29:32.360 --> 03:29:36.360
might have just bought a bunch of our lids

03:29:36.360 --> 03:29:40.360
put them on water bottles it's not a secret

03:29:40.360 --> 03:29:44.360
that our threads are the same as Hydroflask

03:29:44.360 --> 03:29:48.360
and a number of other water bottle brands so if you

03:29:48.360 --> 03:29:52.360
have one of the water bottles that uses these threads

03:29:52.360 --> 03:29:56.360
you can buy this excellent lid from LTT Store and you can put it on it

03:29:56.360 --> 03:30:00.360
mind you if you want a new water bottle

03:30:00.360 --> 03:30:04.360
we'd obviously think maybe get both

03:30:04.360 --> 03:30:08.360
sure, you could get a nice water bottle we don't know for sure

03:30:08.360 --> 03:30:12.360
what's going on right now but we do know that that is

03:30:12.360 --> 03:30:16.360
definitely our lid because it's definitely our mold

03:30:16.360 --> 03:30:20.360
with definitely our logo on it cool

03:30:20.360 --> 03:30:24.360
and if it's a gym that's just reselling them then that's completely fine

03:30:24.360 --> 03:30:28.360
that's totally fine, in fact maybe reach out to customer support

03:30:28.360 --> 03:30:32.360
and maybe we can get you a bulk deal I suspect that's not the case

03:30:32.360 --> 03:30:36.360
I don't know, we'll see so

03:30:36.360 --> 03:30:40.360
Tech Plane have I disclosed on WAN

03:30:40.360 --> 03:30:44.360
show what the message was that I showed you that we were like

03:30:44.360 --> 03:30:48.360
what at the end when we were talking about the Tech Plane? you have not

03:30:48.360 --> 03:30:52.360
I'm not going to name any names but someone

03:30:52.360 --> 03:30:56.360
who works at Linus Media Group has a close acquaintance

03:30:56.360 --> 03:31:00.360
who it turns out owns a freaking private jet

03:31:00.360 --> 03:31:04.360
sick and happens

03:31:04.360 --> 03:31:08.360
to be interested in offloading said private jet

03:31:08.360 --> 03:31:12.360
no, it's not Dan we're not going to

03:31:12.360 --> 03:31:16.360
do any more clarification no further clarification

03:31:16.360 --> 03:31:20.360
it's Dan it's not Dan

03:31:20.360 --> 03:31:24.360
I'm the boat guy, I explained that I think that's why people keep saying that

03:31:24.360 --> 03:31:28.360
it might be Dan you don't know that

03:31:28.360 --> 03:31:32.360
you don't know what I'm about I was shocked

03:31:32.360 --> 03:31:36.360
I was shocked at the affordability

03:31:36.360 --> 03:31:40.360
of a private jet it's not something that I have personally

03:31:40.360 --> 03:31:44.360
looked into that is a reasonable statement for what he's talking about

03:31:44.360 --> 03:31:48.360
it is Luke, I've looked at them

03:31:48.360 --> 03:31:52.360
and I've been like whoa, these are like 30 million dollars I don't think affordability

03:31:52.360 --> 03:31:56.360
is the correct word to use in that sentence

03:31:56.360 --> 03:32:00.360
it's all relative and that's why I laughed

03:32:00.360 --> 03:32:04.360
that is precisely why I laughed hold on, let me finish here

03:32:04.360 --> 03:32:08.360
let me finish let me finish

03:32:08.360 --> 03:32:12.360
every time I looked at it I've been like what private jet does

03:32:12.360 --> 03:32:16.360
Taylor Swift fly and it's like anywhere from 30 to

03:32:16.360 --> 03:32:20.360
50, 60 million dollars as much as you want to be, you're not actually Taylor Swift

03:32:20.360 --> 03:32:24.360
I know my thighs though

03:32:24.360 --> 03:32:28.360
I think my thighs are about as big as hers I need to take your opportunity

03:32:28.360 --> 03:32:32.360
because when you were talking earlier you said your shake it off, shake it off thing

03:32:32.360 --> 03:32:36.360
and I wanted to let you keep talking but I had to ask this

03:32:36.360 --> 03:32:40.360
you mentioned wife bum slap wife slapping your bum to be clear

03:32:40.360 --> 03:32:44.360
and saying where'd your butt go after your wisdom teeth

03:32:44.360 --> 03:32:48.360
has the cake returned I think that people need to know

03:32:48.360 --> 03:32:52.360
the cake is not returned you got to eat more and do squats in the gym

03:32:52.360 --> 03:32:56.360
I know right I'm on the stair master like every other day

03:32:56.360 --> 03:33:00.360
so I just need to eat more some yoga pants

03:33:00.360 --> 03:33:04.360
anyway anyway

03:33:04.360 --> 03:33:08.360
so Taylor Swift so

03:33:08.360 --> 03:33:12.360
I was shocked at the relative

03:33:12.360 --> 03:33:16.360
affordability of like a jet because I thought a private jet

03:33:16.360 --> 03:33:20.360
is just like millions millions of dollars

03:33:20.360 --> 03:33:24.360
they're going to think relative to you I'm going to give them a number

03:33:24.360 --> 03:33:28.360
and they're going to be like wow how is that affordable to anyone

03:33:28.360 --> 03:33:32.360
it was under a million dollars for a jet

03:33:32.360 --> 03:33:36.360
not like a propeller plane like a jet that would seat like nine people

03:33:36.360 --> 03:33:38.360
so is this like

03:33:40.360 --> 03:33:44.360
I know it's not people are actually like

03:33:44.360 --> 03:33:48.360
they get it now but Vancouver real estate is so bad

03:33:48.360 --> 03:33:52.360
that you could like live there instead of an apartment yeah

03:33:52.360 --> 03:33:56.360
the problem would be there's a two bedroom house across the street

03:33:56.360 --> 03:34:00.360
for me that's 1.8 million dollars the problem is you can't park it anywhere

03:34:00.360 --> 03:34:04.360
see this is what I'm talking about you guys in Vancouver is it cheaper

03:34:04.360 --> 03:34:08.360
to fly a jet to work than live close about it

03:34:08.360 --> 03:34:12.360
I think it would be cheaper to live in the jet this is what I'm saying

03:34:12.360 --> 03:34:16.360
you wouldn't pay property tax I was very

03:34:16.360 --> 03:34:20.360
surprised when I first heard the price and I was like

03:34:20.360 --> 03:34:24.360
excuse me pardon okay I thought it was more

03:34:24.360 --> 03:34:28.360
no it's a private-ass corporate jet

03:34:28.360 --> 03:34:32.360
jet that did like

03:34:32.360 --> 03:34:36.360
over Mach 0.8 or whatever do you buy a townhouse

03:34:36.360 --> 03:34:40.360
an hour away from Vancouver suburbia or

03:34:40.360 --> 03:34:44.360
hear me out a private jet

03:34:46.360 --> 03:34:50.360
that is so stupid so

03:34:50.360 --> 03:34:54.360
so but

03:34:54.360 --> 03:34:58.360
so I was looking at that going

03:34:58.360 --> 03:35:02.360
oh hold on a second tech plane

03:35:02.360 --> 03:35:06.360
because that's not bad bones to start with

03:35:06.360 --> 03:35:10.360
now obviously you're gonna need to look into maintenance records

03:35:10.360 --> 03:35:14.360
and it's not in Canada

03:35:14.360 --> 03:35:18.360
so let me explain why

03:35:18.360 --> 03:35:22.360
the deal is dead and therefore the tech plane project

03:35:22.360 --> 03:35:26.360
may be dead sure

03:35:26.360 --> 03:35:30.360
it's not in Canada that's a big problem transport Canada

03:35:30.360 --> 03:35:34.360
apparently and this is from talking to my uncle

03:35:34.360 --> 03:35:38.360
my uncle's been in the aviation industry for like 40,000 years

03:35:38.360 --> 03:35:42.360
more like 40 so my uncle's been

03:35:42.360 --> 03:35:46.360
he's done corporate he's done commercial

03:35:46.360 --> 03:35:50.360
he has owned an aircraft for himself

03:35:50.360 --> 03:35:54.360
he does firefighting now so he's basically

03:35:54.360 --> 03:35:58.360
oh does he do the like those are so safe dude

03:35:58.360 --> 03:36:02.360
he was talking I was talking to him about it because I was chatting with him about this

03:36:02.360 --> 03:36:06.360
right after we talked about it on WAN Show for the

03:36:06.360 --> 03:36:10.360
LA fires and he was just like

03:36:10.360 --> 03:36:14.360
yeah like he's stowing on Shalana

03:36:14.360 --> 03:36:18.360
I'm like dude that's so cool he's like we're not that close to the ground

03:36:18.360 --> 03:36:22.360
he gives me the number I'm like that's really close to the ground no that's insane

03:36:22.360 --> 03:36:26.360
so I went on a trip a weekend or two ago

03:36:26.360 --> 03:36:30.360
I don't know time is an illusion with Emma and her family

03:36:30.360 --> 03:36:34.360
to see some of their cousins or whatever and while we're going on the trip

03:36:34.360 --> 03:36:38.360
we're just mad of all these like sick Canadian and others

03:36:38.360 --> 03:36:42.360
like water bombers going over the LA fires and we're just nerding out over the whole time

03:36:42.360 --> 03:36:46.360
so cool he might not think it's cool because he does it all the time

03:36:46.360 --> 03:36:50.360
it is objectively sick so anyway he's been around the block

03:36:50.360 --> 03:36:54.360
he's been around the turbine a little bit so to speak

03:36:54.360 --> 03:36:58.360
and he basically goes just because something's air worthy

03:36:58.360 --> 03:37:02.360
in America does not mean it is air worthy

03:37:02.360 --> 03:37:06.360
like Canada is this because Canada is more stringent

03:37:06.360 --> 03:37:10.360
or because the rules are different both

03:37:10.360 --> 03:37:14.360
so for example he told me about this one plane that's a triple engine plane

03:37:14.360 --> 03:37:18.360
you've got two on the sides and you've got one that's like embedded in the tail and he goes

03:37:18.360 --> 03:37:22.360
in the United States that's kosher

03:37:22.360 --> 03:37:26.360
totally cool in Canada you need

03:37:26.360 --> 03:37:30.360
what's called a basically

03:37:30.360 --> 03:37:34.360
you need this reinforcement ring that goes around it

03:37:34.360 --> 03:37:38.360
he gave me a couple examples of materials I'm not going to try and tell you guys

03:37:38.360 --> 03:37:42.360
what the materials were basically he goes so here's the situation

03:37:42.360 --> 03:37:46.360
you want to take an American plane that was built to American standards

03:37:46.360 --> 03:37:50.360
with one of those on it bring it up into Canada

03:37:50.360 --> 03:37:54.360
you're pulling off that engine you're buying this ring for like

03:37:54.360 --> 03:37:58.360
20 grand 30 grand it's aviation so it just immediately goes up

03:37:58.360 --> 03:38:02.360
you're putting that ring on the engine you're putting the engine back on

03:38:02.360 --> 03:38:06.360
you're into this for tens of thousands of dollars if you're lucky

03:38:06.360 --> 03:38:10.360
and that's just that's just one example

03:38:10.360 --> 03:38:14.360
sorry GM Shippo in Flipping Shot said the plane that crashed in Philly last week

03:38:14.360 --> 03:38:18.360
had been flagged by Canada before it crashed

03:38:18.360 --> 03:38:22.360
transport Canada basically from him talking about them

03:38:22.360 --> 03:38:26.360
it seems like they're a bit of a pain in the ass but it's overall a good thing

03:38:26.360 --> 03:38:30.360
in the way that you'd probably want them to be it's overall seems like a good thing

03:38:30.360 --> 03:38:34.360
Draco Nightwalker says it's called a cowl so make of that what you will

03:38:34.360 --> 03:38:38.360
I have no idea if that's right that's not what he called it but sure cowl fine

03:38:38.360 --> 03:38:42.360
okay concern number two as you can imagine

03:38:42.360 --> 03:38:46.360
a sub one million dollar private jet

03:38:46.360 --> 03:38:50.360
probably a little on the older side and he was telling me parts availability

03:38:50.360 --> 03:38:54.360
for these things nevermind parts cost parts availability

03:38:54.360 --> 03:38:58.360
for these things can be a big challenge and he was telling me

03:38:58.360 --> 03:39:02.360
so he's down in Australia right now working

03:39:02.360 --> 03:39:06.360
firefighting and he was telling me about just totally

03:39:06.360 --> 03:39:10.360
unrelated plane unrelated story but basically just this older plane that he knows someone

03:39:10.360 --> 03:39:14.360
who has it grounded because he needs a fuel pump

03:39:14.360 --> 03:39:18.360
for it he goes yeah this thing this fuel pump about the size of your fist

03:39:18.360 --> 03:39:22.360
so bigger than mine but a little bigger than this

03:39:22.360 --> 03:39:26.360
let's say like that and they finally

03:39:26.360 --> 03:39:30.360
tracked one down planes been grounded for months 60 grand

03:39:30.360 --> 03:39:34.360
because f**k you that's why this is the only one you're gonna get because this is the only

03:39:34.360 --> 03:39:38.360
one that exists because this is the thing this is the thing these planes right

03:39:38.360 --> 03:39:42.360
they don't actually like make that many of them like a successful

03:39:42.360 --> 03:39:46.360
model of plane they might make hundreds of

03:39:46.360 --> 03:39:50.360
you know what I mean an unsuccessful model of plane

03:39:50.360 --> 03:39:54.360
they might make more like dozens of

03:39:54.360 --> 03:39:58.360
and so when you when you look up like a model of plane on Wikipedia or whatever

03:39:58.360 --> 03:40:02.360
it'll be like yeah they built 322 of these of which

03:40:02.360 --> 03:40:06.360
these because it's all registered and it's all it's all tracked in everything extremely track of which

03:40:06.360 --> 03:40:10.360
you know 10 of them crashed and this many of them did this and this many are grounded for this reason

03:40:10.360 --> 03:40:14.360
and so for these older planes what some people end up doing is they actually

03:40:14.360 --> 03:40:18.360
they go and buy a parts plane it's actually more economical

03:40:18.360 --> 03:40:22.360
they buy an entirely separate what about second plane

03:40:22.360 --> 03:40:26.360
and just park it so that when something breaks they can just pull one off

03:40:26.360 --> 03:40:30.360
and hope that that one works their own private scrapyard

03:40:30.360 --> 03:40:34.360
um yeah so this

03:40:34.360 --> 03:40:38.360
yeah MMGF says old lear jets are cheap because the engines have to be

03:40:38.360 --> 03:40:42.360
retrofitted to be quiet! and the cost is millions um

03:40:42.360 --> 03:40:46.360
yeah yeah so so we've got the concern

03:40:46.360 --> 03:40:50.360
about parts availability we've got the concern about getting the bloody thing into Canada in the

03:40:50.360 --> 03:40:54.360
first place which even if everything's totally fine is going to cost thousands and thousands

03:40:54.360 --> 03:40:58.360
of dollars in inspections and validation and certification and everything yeah

03:40:58.360 --> 03:41:02.360
um the most popular plane ever made

03:41:02.360 --> 03:41:06.360
it was only 144,000 of them yeah

03:41:06.360 --> 03:41:10.360
kinapse 7 full plane jet yeah that's that sounds like it makes sense so what would that be like the 7

03:41:10.360 --> 03:41:14.360
37 or something like what's the most what's the most popular what plane is that

03:41:14.360 --> 03:41:18.360
um let me know yeah yeah yeah I actually I have no idea I just guessed is it like

03:41:18.360 --> 03:41:22.360
some little Cessna or something I actually have no idea

03:41:24.360 --> 03:41:28.360
user raiden 428 says but Linus a jet

03:41:28.360 --> 03:41:32.360
will significantly help your son's dating game lol

03:41:32.360 --> 03:41:36.360
which I thought was a funny comment what sorry what do you say I said

03:41:36.360 --> 03:41:40.360
we'll help your son's user raiden 428 in chat says Linus

03:41:40.360 --> 03:41:44.360
though a jet will significantly help your son's dating game it probably would

03:41:44.360 --> 03:41:48.360
probably would probably would probably would what if you what if instead

03:41:48.360 --> 03:41:52.360
of a baller car you could take your dad's jet to prom

03:41:52.360 --> 03:41:56.360
I mean what like just taxi it there yeah there's no runway

03:41:56.360 --> 03:42:00.360
you know like go up in the air go around a circle land and then take a limo to

03:42:00.360 --> 03:42:04.360
school there you go um my uncle also

03:42:04.360 --> 03:42:08.360
you know kind of opened my eyes to some of the

03:42:08.360 --> 03:42:12.360
some of the uh

03:42:12.360 --> 03:42:16.360
costs that people might not realize are associated with operating a

03:42:16.360 --> 03:42:20.360
private aircraft so for example you know you when

03:42:20.360 --> 03:42:24.360
you think of like what the the hourly operational cost of flying one of these might be

03:42:24.360 --> 03:42:28.360
what would you what would you think of like give me give me some give me some numbers

03:42:28.360 --> 03:42:32.360
that would you all yeah your fuel pilots your pilot potentially

03:42:32.360 --> 03:42:36.360
we don't know if there's two or one let's say two okay so pilots those

03:42:36.360 --> 03:42:40.360
are very expensive yeah uh yeah last I checked pilots are not

03:42:40.360 --> 03:42:44.360
cheap do you have a stewardess type person not on

03:42:44.360 --> 03:42:48.360
that one if not is someone like

03:42:48.360 --> 03:42:52.360
stocking it like is there is there extra hanger fees of some kind so someone

03:42:52.360 --> 03:42:56.360
who acts as your realistically full-time mechanics slash engineer

03:42:56.360 --> 03:43:00.360
providing maintenance yeah yeah you should probably have one of those and the the hanger fees in general

03:43:00.360 --> 03:43:04.360
I think should be diluted out over the hours that you fly it for yeah but hanger

03:43:04.360 --> 03:43:08.360
fees yeah yeah uh does it cost

03:43:08.360 --> 03:43:12.360
money to land at an airport so far we've got a staff that is probably somewhere

03:43:12.360 --> 03:43:16.360
in the neighborhood of half a million us dollars a year easy we've got hanger

03:43:16.360 --> 03:43:20.360
that's tens of thousands of dollars a year we've got fuel burn rates that are

03:43:20.360 --> 03:43:24.360
somewhere in the thousands of dollars an hour

03:43:24.360 --> 03:43:28.360
an hour disgusting um what else we got

03:43:28.360 --> 03:43:32.360
uh yeah does it cost money to land at an airport yes okay

03:43:32.360 --> 03:43:36.360
I didn't actually know if you fuel up there my understanding is that

03:43:36.360 --> 03:43:40.360
they might discount or waive the fees but then

03:43:40.360 --> 03:43:44.360
you might be overpaying for your fuel so yep yep who knows

03:43:44.360 --> 03:43:48.360
um yeah I know maintenance and stuff is already included

03:43:48.360 --> 03:43:52.360
I also need to not be reading that um nope it's not oh we said the

03:43:52.360 --> 03:43:56.360
maintenance person didn't we yeah the person open up the parts so here's the thing

03:43:56.360 --> 03:44:00.360
um there's this program called an msp

03:44:00.360 --> 03:44:04.360
which is a manufacturer program I think something along those lines but basically

03:44:04.360 --> 03:44:08.360
what it amounts to is a cost usually

03:44:08.360 --> 03:44:12.360
in the hundreds of dollars an hour but can reach into

03:44:12.360 --> 03:44:16.360
thousands of dollars per flight hour where it's essentially

03:44:16.360 --> 03:44:20.360
like an insurance program that you pay into where when your engine

03:44:20.360 --> 03:44:24.360
comes up for an overhaul or even replacement the manufacturer

03:44:24.360 --> 03:44:28.360
of said engine will cover everything so you you ship it out

03:44:28.360 --> 03:44:32.360
to them you they refurb it or they send you one that they've already refurb

03:44:32.360 --> 03:44:36.360
and you throw it on there yeah you keep down your

03:44:36.360 --> 03:44:40.360
basically your maintenance time and

03:44:40.360 --> 03:44:44.360
essentially if you don't have an msp

03:44:44.360 --> 03:44:48.360
you are rolling the dice on

03:44:48.360 --> 03:44:52.360
whether you will be able to get replacement parts in a timely manner

03:44:52.360 --> 03:44:56.360
how long it's going to be down for maintenance which is going to cost you a lot more than just

03:44:56.360 --> 03:45:00.360
paying into your msp um

03:45:00.360 --> 03:45:04.360
managed services program maintenance service plan

03:45:04.360 --> 03:45:08.360
I'm sure every industry has a slightly different but basically

03:45:08.360 --> 03:45:12.360
an msp max o drive

03:45:12.360 --> 03:45:16.360
says the most popular private was the Learjet 35 36 and they made just

03:45:16.360 --> 03:45:20.360
over 700 of those yeah so if you are not if you are

03:45:20.360 --> 03:45:24.360
not paying into your msp and they don't

03:45:24.360 --> 03:45:28.360
and the manufacturer you know doesn't happen to you know just like have parts

03:45:28.360 --> 03:45:32.360
lying around for you you're just like who knows who knows basically you're at the

03:45:32.360 --> 03:45:36.360
mercy of finding one of those other 700 people who bought one of those planes

03:45:36.360 --> 03:45:40.360
at some point like it's I was amazed at how small

03:45:40.360 --> 03:45:44.360
the aviation industry is from kind of talking to him about all of this

03:45:44.360 --> 03:45:48.360
how utterly tiny the pool

03:45:48.360 --> 03:45:52.360
of people who like own these planes oh yeah yeah yeah

03:45:52.360 --> 03:45:56.360
um because like on the other hand you know I'll I'll look up some you know

03:45:56.360 --> 03:46:00.360
rando celebrity and it's like oh yeah you know Jim Carrey has a private plane or you know

03:46:00.360 --> 03:46:04.360
this or that um and I'm just like yeah it seems like

03:46:04.360 --> 03:46:08.360
every freaking celebrity in their dog has a stupid you know private jet or whatever

03:46:08.360 --> 03:46:12.360
um but but but no the actual ownership pool for these things

03:46:12.360 --> 03:46:16.360
is is flipping is flipping tiny um

03:46:16.360 --> 03:46:20.360
and seeing these these ongoing costs it also

03:46:20.360 --> 03:46:24.360
kind of gave me some perspective on you know why you have people like Jim Carrey

03:46:24.360 --> 03:46:28.360
saying yeah why did I do Sonic 3 because I needed

03:46:28.360 --> 03:46:32.360
the money like I guess they just get used to like this lifestyle where

03:46:32.360 --> 03:46:36.360
if you fly between you know Vancouver and New York you're

03:46:36.360 --> 03:46:40.360
spending you know 20 $25,000

03:46:40.360 --> 03:46:44.360
one way I think so I think it would be

03:46:44.360 --> 03:46:48.360
pretty nuts for Jim Carrey to take an economy flight yeah that's true

03:46:48.360 --> 03:46:52.360
not not because I'm like I'm not a person of his status

03:46:52.360 --> 03:46:56.360
I just like oh he just get overrun yeah it would be insane

03:46:58.360 --> 03:47:02.360
yeah yeah that's tough

03:47:02.360 --> 03:47:06.360
honestly it's getting to the point even at my very

03:47:06.360 --> 03:47:10.360
limited like internet fame where it's getting to be a bit much

03:47:10.360 --> 03:47:14.360
like I I would always say in the past like I I have

03:47:14.360 --> 03:47:18.360
enough notoriety to know I don't need more and that was when it was

03:47:18.360 --> 03:47:22.360
less than it is now like I I I don't mind if people

03:47:22.360 --> 03:47:26.360
you know come up and take a selfie or whatever it's like it's fine I actually

03:47:26.360 --> 03:47:30.360
I appreciate you guys I appreciate that I get to have the coolest job in the

03:47:30.360 --> 03:47:34.360
world and you guys make that possible but what I will say

03:47:34.360 --> 03:47:38.360
is that individuals aside I don't mind the individuals

03:47:38.360 --> 03:47:42.360
I appreciate the individuals collectively

03:47:42.360 --> 03:47:46.360
it is getting to be a little bit much like it used to be

03:47:46.360 --> 03:47:50.360
that if someone walked up and wanted a selfie we would take a selfie and then I would

03:47:50.360 --> 03:47:54.360
continue doing whatever it is that I'm doing multiple times

03:47:54.360 --> 03:47:58.360
I have taken my kids for ski lessons the last little while and

03:47:58.360 --> 03:48:02.360
when the first person takes the picture a couple other

03:48:02.360 --> 03:48:06.360
people stand up nearby and they're like okay me too now that somebody broke the ice

03:48:08.360 --> 03:48:12.360
that's getting to be a bit much yeah I don't I don't I don't have a solution

03:48:12.360 --> 03:48:16.360
to that other than just like what retire I think if I retired it would go away extremely quickly

03:48:16.360 --> 03:48:20.360
though like I think I would fade from the collective consciousness really fast compared to like a real

03:48:20.360 --> 03:48:24.360
celebrity I disagree Oh I strongly disagree with what you just

03:48:24.360 --> 03:48:28.360
said I'm practically only on Wansho I still get it all the time yeah but you're still

03:48:28.360 --> 03:48:32.360
actively on Wansho Wansho has hold on

03:48:32.360 --> 03:48:36.360
Wansho has probably almost

03:48:36.360 --> 03:48:40.360
20,000 live viewers right now people will very often like I went to the dentist

03:48:40.360 --> 03:48:44.360
this week and dude in the lobby recognized me I think you're numb

03:48:44.360 --> 03:48:48.360
to the numbers and said that he watched

03:48:48.360 --> 03:48:52.360
the mineral oil build from forever yeah but I think

03:48:52.360 --> 03:48:56.360
you still it would still fade and remember but you got to remember too

03:48:56.360 --> 03:49:00.360
on top of him watching that build like you're you're being brought

03:49:00.360 --> 03:49:04.360
up from time to time like we remember things so much better

03:49:04.360 --> 03:49:08.360
when we are reminded of them periodically versus if we completely are not reminded

03:49:08.360 --> 03:49:12.360
of them I think I'd fade pretty fast

03:49:14.360 --> 03:49:18.360
I don't Keanu Reeves apparently flies commercial

03:49:18.360 --> 03:49:22.360
frequently says real avus in YouTube chat which I'm now closing because I don't

03:49:22.360 --> 03:49:26.360
look at YouTube chat I have also seen like videos of him noticing

03:49:26.360 --> 03:49:30.360
of people noticing him in public and leaving him alone and then

03:49:30.360 --> 03:49:34.360
seemingly no one bothering him like I feel like he chameleons really

03:49:34.360 --> 03:49:38.360
well somehow how can you be that cool I don't know

03:49:38.360 --> 03:49:42.360
how can anyone be that cool I will never be that cool

03:49:46.360 --> 03:49:50.360
yeah I think I think there's a somewhat of a critical mass of content for you

03:49:50.360 --> 03:49:54.360
and memes like the memes have

03:49:54.360 --> 03:49:58.360
incredible reach yeah but like

03:49:58.360 --> 03:50:02.360
there was a Michael Reeves video that came out this week that like your face is randomly and I got jump

03:50:02.360 --> 03:50:06.360
scared by it I was like what the heck

03:50:06.360 --> 03:50:10.360
but it was one of the memes of you

03:50:10.360 --> 03:50:14.360
just everywhere let me go

03:50:14.360 --> 03:50:18.360
find it I don't know if I can

03:50:18.360 --> 03:50:22.360
it's really quick at a random part of his video okay while he's looking that up I have a few more

03:50:22.360 --> 03:50:26.360
plane updates one of the other things I learned from my uncle

03:50:26.360 --> 03:50:30.360
is that the amount of things we would be able to modify

03:50:30.360 --> 03:50:34.360
about the plane are extremely limited

03:50:34.360 --> 03:50:38.360
and he basically said look I haven't looked that closely at this yet

03:50:38.360 --> 03:50:42.360
so this is just my my understanding

03:50:42.360 --> 03:50:46.360
without looking into it in more detail because he understands that

03:50:46.360 --> 03:50:50.360
you know we are DIY and we want to like do stuff to it

03:50:50.360 --> 03:50:54.360
and he's like okay I get that but here's the line as far as I understand

03:50:54.360 --> 03:50:58.360
as soon as you take a screw or a bolt

03:50:58.360 --> 03:51:02.360
and you put it between whatever thing you have

03:51:02.360 --> 03:51:06.360
and the plane it has to be certified

03:51:06.360 --> 03:51:10.360
and so which is good

03:51:10.360 --> 03:51:14.360
it's good but it would seriously limit

03:51:14.360 --> 03:51:18.360
our ability to just like put cool stuff in it

03:51:18.360 --> 03:51:22.360
you know like if I wanted to build our own in-flight entertainment system

03:51:22.360 --> 03:51:26.360
yeah you'd have to mount it mid-plane instead of on the

03:51:26.360 --> 03:51:30.360
walls essentially you would have to essentially velcro it

03:51:30.360 --> 03:51:34.360
to like the side of the seat and like

03:51:34.360 --> 03:51:38.360
everything would have to be mounted with velcro or clamps or

03:51:38.360 --> 03:51:42.360
temporarily no even bolting something to the seat gotta be certified

03:51:42.360 --> 03:51:46.360
yeah he was telling me he redid the interior of a plane

03:51:46.360 --> 03:51:50.360
way back in the day when he was working corporate and they were due for a redo

03:51:50.360 --> 03:51:54.360
and he's like look you gotta understand everything from the like G-rated frame

03:51:54.360 --> 03:51:58.360
to the foam to the surface material it's all

03:51:58.360 --> 03:52:02.360
related everything about it

03:52:02.360 --> 03:52:06.360
is designed for minimum flammability

03:52:06.360 --> 03:52:10.360
because they really don't want fire spreading in these things

03:52:10.360 --> 03:52:14.360
and it's like that makes sense mini spring says just do french cleats

03:52:14.360 --> 03:52:18.360
sure but we're gonna need a certified french cleat mount like anything

03:52:18.360 --> 03:52:22.360
anything that gets bolted to the plane is my understanding is my understanding

03:52:22.360 --> 03:52:26.360
anything bolted to the plane could be trouble and yes plasmator

03:52:26.360 --> 03:52:30.360
if you start thinking about weight and balance and how much you want to take with you

03:52:30.360 --> 03:52:34.360
you'd be over the idea yeah there you go so I'm not saying never

03:52:34.360 --> 03:52:38.360
I'm just saying but yacht

03:52:38.360 --> 03:52:42.360
that yacht is still for sale in spite of us talking about it on wandshow

03:52:42.360 --> 03:52:46.360
the tech yacht yacht

03:52:46.360 --> 03:52:50.360
have you reached out yet? I haven't are you going to? I don't know

03:52:50.360 --> 03:52:54.360
I think it would warrant a conversation because he can talk to you like your plane guy talk to you

03:52:54.360 --> 03:52:58.360
and I'll tell you it's way easier to modify a boat

03:52:58.360 --> 03:53:02.360
you can do whatever the hell you want yeah my brother-in-law

03:53:02.360 --> 03:53:06.360
is very supportive of the tech yacht as well actually I don't see it

03:53:06.360 --> 03:53:10.360
hold on is it sold? there will always be another

03:53:10.360 --> 03:53:14.360
I don't know there is no rush for you to get the yacht

03:53:14.360 --> 03:53:16.360
there it is boys here's the yacht

03:53:18.360 --> 03:53:22.360
also again I would say competitive with real estate in Vancouver

03:53:22.360 --> 03:53:26.360
I know right? except the storage

03:53:26.360 --> 03:53:30.360
except the storage fees dude

03:53:30.360 --> 03:53:34.360
the storage of the boat sorry I thought you meant storing things on

03:53:34.360 --> 03:53:38.360
if boats don't come with a mooring spot these days you just don't buy them

03:53:38.360 --> 03:53:40.360
because that's almost harder to get than the boat

03:53:42.360 --> 03:53:46.360
this seems to be moored somewhere yeah but it might not come with it

03:53:46.360 --> 03:53:50.360
but you gotta make sure of that but you should call the guy

03:53:50.360 --> 03:53:54.360
call the guy the connection to this boat and him

03:53:54.360 --> 03:53:58.360
and everybody is actually hilarious I don't know if I informed Luke

03:53:58.360 --> 03:54:02.360
but this guy knows like the original owner

03:54:02.360 --> 03:54:06.360
the old captain the boat itself

03:54:06.360 --> 03:54:10.360
call the guy talk to him just have a conversation

03:54:10.360 --> 03:54:14.360
you don't have to buy the boat just have a little sales pitch

03:54:14.360 --> 03:54:18.360
sit down and then I'll get my kick and then he can tell you

03:54:20.360 --> 03:54:24.360
here's my point yeah that's what you do

03:54:24.360 --> 03:54:28.360
you get Reeves' butt you

03:54:28.360 --> 03:54:32.360
say that I'm underestimating the influence of still being on the way

03:54:32.360 --> 03:54:36.360
on show I think you're underestimating the influence of you being

03:54:36.360 --> 03:54:40.360
f***ing everywhere yeah I don't know

03:54:40.360 --> 03:54:44.360
I still think I'd probably get my privacy back it would reduce

03:54:44.360 --> 03:54:48.360
mine has reduced but I don't think it's gonna go away

03:54:48.360 --> 03:54:52.360
DyslexicStoner240 says Linus honestly

03:54:52.360 --> 03:54:56.360
if you bought a yacht I would unsubscribe

03:54:56.360 --> 03:55:00.360
but DyslexicStoner must have tuned into the WAN Show late today

03:55:00.360 --> 03:55:04.360
because I have entered my not giving a f***ing phase so

03:55:04.360 --> 03:55:08.360
he bought a badminton center

03:55:08.360 --> 03:55:12.360
oh you're spelling it out for them no no no badminton centers

03:55:12.360 --> 03:55:16.360
don't cost money Luke we just pointed out that

03:55:16.360 --> 03:55:18.360
is competitive with the pricing of the yacht

03:55:26.360 --> 03:55:30.360
uh the badminton center is a business

03:55:30.360 --> 03:55:34.360
yeah right yeah it's a business it's a very profitable business

03:55:34.360 --> 03:55:38.360
you pointed out that it's not necessarily making a ton of money the reviews are great

03:55:38.360 --> 03:55:40.360
the reviews are great

03:55:42.360 --> 03:55:46.360
the yacht would be being chartered though uh yeah I would think so

03:55:46.360 --> 03:55:50.360
so it would be a business does this now make it acceptable

03:55:50.360 --> 03:55:52.360
is this a trade deal can we shake

03:55:54.360 --> 03:55:58.360
we need to hear from DyslexicStoner 240

03:55:58.360 --> 03:56:02.360
specifically is it okay if it's a business

03:56:02.360 --> 03:56:06.360
because I think the point that Luke was trying to make is that

03:56:06.360 --> 03:56:10.360
the yacht is I knew you were kidding

03:56:10.360 --> 03:56:14.360
DyslexicStoner you're always in the chat you're

03:56:14.360 --> 03:56:18.360
no I'm taking this very seriously someone named DyslexicStoner

03:56:18.360 --> 03:56:22.360
240 would never be making a hee hee

03:56:22.360 --> 03:56:24.360
I'm full simp baby

03:56:26.360 --> 03:56:30.360
I think we've talked about this guy a lot he's come up

03:56:30.360 --> 03:56:34.360
more than once I remember that name he goes whew sorry I'm high

03:56:36.360 --> 03:56:40.360
I would have never seen that coming

03:56:42.360 --> 03:56:46.360
but yeah I don't know like

03:56:46.360 --> 03:56:50.360
it'd be so fun to build this thing just get a yacht

03:56:50.360 --> 03:56:54.360
just get the boat just get the boat

03:56:54.360 --> 03:56:58.360
just call the guy just call the guy

03:56:58.360 --> 03:57:02.360
I mean it costs nothing to go see it or call the guy

03:57:02.360 --> 03:57:06.360
there's the first step he's hooked now boys

03:57:06.360 --> 03:57:10.360
it's over tech yachts happening

03:57:10.360 --> 03:57:14.360
if it's a business here's the thing though here's what I fear

03:57:14.360 --> 03:57:18.360
here's what I fear in the same way

03:57:18.360 --> 03:57:22.360
that there's a reason an old corporate jet is under a million dollars

03:57:22.360 --> 03:57:26.360
what a value why is that yaka to

03:57:26.360 --> 03:57:30.360
I feel like there's a reason that this 123 foot

03:57:30.360 --> 03:57:34.360
tri-deck yacht

03:57:34.360 --> 03:57:38.360
is like under 2 million US dollars like what does that even work out to

03:57:38.360 --> 03:57:42.360
currently called the sovereign lady you could rename it the gamer boy

03:57:42.360 --> 03:57:46.360
apparently it's really bad luck oh yeah you don't do that

03:57:46.360 --> 03:57:50.360
what to convert to CAD to change the name

03:57:50.360 --> 03:57:54.360
of a boat 1.7 million US dollars

03:57:54.360 --> 03:57:58.360
that seems to me the lay person

03:57:58.360 --> 03:58:02.360
like not a lot of money

03:58:02.360 --> 03:58:06.360
for 123 foot yacht you really got to qualify that statement

03:58:06.360 --> 03:58:10.360
I'm just saying like here for context

03:58:10.360 --> 03:58:14.360
here is another 1.6

03:58:14.360 --> 03:58:16.360
million dollar yacht

03:58:18.360 --> 03:58:22.360
look at the size of this thing yeah but when did that one

03:58:22.360 --> 03:58:26.360
be birthed this is a toy by comparison

03:58:26.360 --> 03:58:30.360
it is 57 feet don't get that one

03:58:30.360 --> 03:58:34.360
yeah it's a big boat that is half the size

03:58:34.360 --> 03:58:38.360
of this one there's an inverse relationship

03:58:38.360 --> 03:58:42.360
of the cost of the boat to its size a 60 foot yacht is manageable

03:58:42.360 --> 03:58:46.360
for somebody that has 2 million dollars to spend on a boat

03:58:46.360 --> 03:58:50.360
a 123 foot yacht is not manageable for somebody that has 2 million dollars

03:58:50.360 --> 03:58:54.360
to spend on a boat so that's exactly it

03:58:54.360 --> 03:58:58.360
clearly this thing is so old that anyone who could afford

03:58:58.360 --> 03:59:02.360
the upkeep of it could afford a better yacht

03:59:02.360 --> 03:59:06.360
that's the thing so I would basically be buying

03:59:06.360 --> 03:59:10.360
something that nobody else could ever want

03:59:10.360 --> 03:59:14.360
that I couldn't even give away because it costs so much to maintain

03:59:14.360 --> 03:59:18.360
that anyone who could possibly maintain it couldn't possibly want it

03:59:18.360 --> 03:59:22.360
it's like owning a beautiful

03:59:22.360 --> 03:59:26.360
gilded golden house the most beautiful house

03:59:26.360 --> 03:59:30.360
but it's in mission you know

03:59:30.360 --> 03:59:34.360
it's in mission and not the good part of mission

03:59:38.360 --> 03:59:42.360
I'm kidding there's no good part of mission

03:59:44.360 --> 03:59:48.360
they're trying not very hard

03:59:48.360 --> 03:59:52.360
there's one good part of mission when you leave

03:59:52.360 --> 03:59:56.360
and she left she's from mission?

03:59:56.360 --> 04:00:00.360
I know this is good questions to ask the guy

04:00:00.360 --> 04:00:04.360
why is this boat so cheap tell me about boats

04:00:04.360 --> 04:00:08.360
maybe you should go see him and ask you should talk to him

04:00:08.360 --> 04:00:12.360
wouldn't it just be fun? I'll go he can take you around the boats

04:00:12.360 --> 04:00:16.360
he's a really good dude call the guy

04:00:16.360 --> 04:00:20.360
call the guy content

04:00:20.360 --> 04:00:24.360
that's not how that works that's definitely not content

04:00:24.360 --> 04:00:28.360
this is a serious discussion what is the desired outcome

04:00:28.360 --> 04:00:32.360
how many computers do you want to be able to sleep on it

04:00:32.360 --> 04:00:36.360
it can also talk to you about the economics of actually running it as a business

04:00:36.360 --> 04:00:40.360
and chartering it this is why he's the guy

04:00:40.360 --> 04:00:44.360
because you know it's all about the chartering

04:00:44.360 --> 04:00:48.360
in the off season a boat like this goes for 60,000 a week

04:00:48.360 --> 04:00:52.360
like right now yeah but who gets it though

04:00:52.360 --> 04:00:56.360
exactly why you talk to the dude guy

04:00:56.360 --> 04:01:00.360
so Luke what would we do? obviously

04:01:00.360 --> 04:01:04.360
the upper deck here you kind of leave that as is

04:01:04.360 --> 04:01:08.360
that's the party zone that's the hot tub zone

04:01:08.360 --> 04:01:12.360
that's awesome all the RGB

04:01:12.360 --> 04:01:16.360
some aesthetic changes but we're not making this part the landing

04:01:16.360 --> 04:01:20.360
in here you make this like board game

04:01:20.360 --> 04:01:24.360
board game land okay simple

04:01:24.360 --> 04:01:28.360
because this looks like the under deck so it's not just a video game yacht

04:01:28.360 --> 04:01:32.360
no no it's gaming yacht it's gaming in general yacht

04:01:32.360 --> 04:01:36.360
gaming yacht for me personally

04:01:36.360 --> 04:01:40.360
but I don't know anything about this so maybe he'd tell me what an incredibly

04:01:40.360 --> 04:01:44.360
crazy idea this is but I would actually probably reduce the bedroomness

04:01:44.360 --> 04:01:48.360
of it I would probably want to convert

04:01:48.360 --> 04:01:52.360
some of the bedroom spaces more gaming spaces

04:01:52.360 --> 04:01:56.360
that's a good question for the chartering side of it because we want to still make sure

04:01:56.360 --> 04:02:00.360
that you can charter it so instead of like a room where you can smash

04:02:00.360 --> 04:02:04.360
we'd have the smash room so you'd have like a big TV and a switch

04:02:06.360 --> 04:02:10.360
different kind of switch oh

04:02:12.360 --> 04:02:16.360
you'd probably want to keep the main bedroom you'd probably need to keep

04:02:16.360 --> 04:02:20.360
like a cruise quarters of some sort right

04:02:20.360 --> 04:02:24.360
but beyond that I would look at this and I would say no this is more of

04:02:24.360 --> 04:02:28.360
like a we go out for a little cruise and we game we rent it

04:02:28.360 --> 04:02:32.360
for like a bit as opposed to like we go on an expedition

04:02:32.360 --> 04:02:36.360
kind of renovation yeah what if

04:02:36.360 --> 04:02:40.360
you do like bunk bedroom yeah

04:02:40.360 --> 04:02:44.360
obviously you wouldn't be able to

04:02:44.360 --> 04:02:48.360
the TVs would need to go coming up with I think there's like

04:02:48.360 --> 04:02:52.360
six bedrooms in this TV in the bedroom

04:02:52.360 --> 04:02:56.360
six state rooms so coming up with like

04:02:56.360 --> 04:03:00.360
a new unique purpose for each one of them you could do themes

04:03:00.360 --> 04:03:04.360
you could do themes the switch room the xbox room yeah or like the Mario room

04:03:04.360 --> 04:03:08.360
whatever yeah like you could do themed rooms could legitimately be sick

04:03:10.360 --> 04:03:14.360
obviously we'd have to that is a multi monitor setup

04:03:14.360 --> 04:03:18.360
to find some balance between you know adding some tech to it but also

04:03:18.360 --> 04:03:22.360
you know not messing around with stuff that's good

04:03:22.360 --> 04:03:26.360
because this stuff is friggin expensive oh yeah and whatever's in here

04:03:26.360 --> 04:03:30.360
probably good enough to navigate probably don't want to

04:03:30.360 --> 04:03:34.360
this room almost at all this is where you drive other than

04:03:34.360 --> 04:03:38.360
make it like I don't know cool we could put some RGB strips around the top or something yeah you just don't want

04:03:38.360 --> 04:03:42.360
I don't think you would like want very many people in there annoying for the

04:03:42.360 --> 04:03:46.360
cat no I'm kidding you can still do something

04:03:46.360 --> 04:03:50.360
sure we could put an RGB gaming keyboard on the computer in there

04:03:50.360 --> 04:03:54.360
anyway in here this is where like the fun

04:03:54.360 --> 04:03:58.360
happens this is where you create like an ultimate lounge maybe you mount like you get

04:03:58.360 --> 04:04:02.360
rid of some of these Windows you mount like a samsung the wall here you know

04:04:02.360 --> 04:04:06.360
well no you still want couches you want chairs right

04:04:06.360 --> 04:04:10.360
no not down here that would be I think I'm

04:04:10.360 --> 04:04:14.360
consistently forgetting the absurd scale of this

04:04:14.360 --> 04:04:18.360
130 foot boat is absolutely bonkers

04:04:18.360 --> 04:04:22.360
how many floors is it three so that was

04:04:22.360 --> 04:04:26.360
I believe that was downstairs that you were just looking at no no up here is the pc

04:04:26.360 --> 04:04:30.360
gaming this is the gate like the pc LAN there's probably a fourth floor

04:04:30.360 --> 04:04:34.360
as well where the crew state rooms would be

04:04:34.360 --> 04:04:38.360
they might hide them away but normally there is another like

04:04:38.360 --> 04:04:42.360
in the in the bowels of the ship where they have

04:04:42.360 --> 04:04:46.360
little tiny bunk beds that your actual crew would sleep on right because this would be

04:04:46.360 --> 04:04:50.360
a staffed boat asking is this still available

04:04:50.360 --> 04:04:54.360
will be ignored that's so funny

04:04:54.360 --> 04:04:58.360
so anyway um

04:05:00.360 --> 04:05:04.360
power consumption would be a major concern in our build

04:05:04.360 --> 04:05:08.360
yeah no especially if we had large scale displays

04:05:08.360 --> 04:05:12.360
we'd have to do something to make sure I would be actually be very interested

04:05:12.360 --> 04:05:16.360
if anyone is working on a Ryzen

04:05:16.360 --> 04:05:20.360
AI max like desktop like a mini desktop

04:05:20.360 --> 04:05:24.360
I would be very interested in this because that right there is the

04:05:24.360 --> 04:05:28.360
GPU and IO and these right here are the compute

04:05:28.360 --> 04:05:32.360
dies this thing is crazy I feel like you'd want like super power efficient

04:05:32.360 --> 04:05:36.360
spectacle computer oh definitely like on the like you know if you had

04:05:36.360 --> 04:05:40.360
like an LED wall or something like that yeah you'd have something from like

04:05:40.360 --> 04:05:44.360
Origin PC your main gear or whatever like that's just crazy

04:05:44.360 --> 04:05:48.360
yeah that's like tricked out but the LAN PCs

04:05:48.360 --> 04:05:52.360
I think they could be like Ryzen AI max totally I think so yeah

04:05:52.360 --> 04:05:56.360
because you'd want maximum power efficiency um stock

04:05:56.360 --> 04:06:00.360
stocko Tato says jack response dude honestly though

04:06:00.360 --> 04:06:04.360
getting sponsorships for this project series

04:06:04.360 --> 04:06:08.360
easy like easy because it's so cool

04:06:08.360 --> 04:06:12.360
people don't do this nobody else does this gaming

04:06:12.360 --> 04:06:16.360
yacht gaming yet as long as you don't touch the frame

04:06:16.360 --> 04:06:20.360
my understanding is going to do pretty much whatever you want

04:06:22.360 --> 04:06:26.360
or or hear me out actually no I'm not going to compare

04:06:26.360 --> 04:06:30.360
to a plane maybe weight distribution to a very minor degree yeah maybe it's

04:06:30.360 --> 04:06:34.360
130 foot what are you going to put in there lead good boy right it's hard

04:06:34.360 --> 04:06:38.360
I mean you got to be careful with like waste and water and stuff like that but

04:06:38.360 --> 04:06:42.360
most of the time it's like I don't know could we cool the PCs with seawater

04:06:42.360 --> 04:06:46.360
that's what I want to know I was gonna yeah I mean you totally could with heat exchange

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I mean maybe they also it might gum up the works because

04:06:50.360 --> 04:06:54.360
you know seawater like I don't know water is used for cool gaming

04:06:54.360 --> 04:06:58.360
mode where it like deploys the radiators down into the

04:06:58.360 --> 04:07:02.360
water and then like some solar panels like fold out from the roof and it like deploys

04:07:02.360 --> 04:07:06.360
like it like a like a starcraft 2 like siege tank I understand

04:07:08.360 --> 04:07:12.360
so we go immobile and our like solar panels

04:07:12.360 --> 04:07:16.360
on the top like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

04:07:16.360 --> 04:07:20.360
and then the giant seawater radiators descend into the yeah

04:07:20.360 --> 04:07:24.360
oh I'm getting the willies this is awesome he's so sick

04:07:24.360 --> 04:07:28.360
that's not what people usually mean by willies Dan

04:07:28.360 --> 04:07:32.360
it has nothing to do with your willy hmm

04:07:32.360 --> 04:07:36.360
well I'm trying to keep it family friendly as Vito says would you paint the boat

04:07:36.360 --> 04:07:40.360
well we better anything you store in the water in the ocean

04:07:40.360 --> 04:07:44.360
you're gonna be painting on a pretty regular basis fantastic opportunity for a

04:07:44.360 --> 04:07:48.360
sponsor collab oh dude deep brand good deep brand

04:07:48.360 --> 04:07:52.360
deep brand wrapped my boat we have a

04:07:52.360 --> 04:07:56.360
do I even want to say it we have a I don't know if I

04:07:56.360 --> 04:08:00.360
hmm we have a wrapped in the way that your car originally was

04:08:00.360 --> 04:08:04.360
skin on this boat

04:08:04.360 --> 04:08:08.360
kind of hilarious dude it would be kind of hilarious it is

04:08:08.360 --> 04:08:12.360
hard to get a sense of the scale of this thing this right I think I'm struggling

04:08:12.360 --> 04:08:16.360
with this right here okay that

04:08:16.360 --> 04:08:20.360
that is this this thing is a

04:08:20.360 --> 04:08:24.360
floating freaking house this is a grill there

04:08:24.360 --> 04:08:28.360
that'd be sick I know I could see you flipping burgers during

04:08:28.360 --> 04:08:32.360
a land dude on a yak oh it doesn't have the geosynchronous

04:08:32.360 --> 04:08:36.360
ones some of them have galleys that have them on a little like

04:08:36.360 --> 04:08:40.360
hinge so that when the ship lists from side to side the grill

04:08:40.360 --> 04:08:44.360
stays upright or the stove or the range in the in the galley we'd have to get one

04:08:44.360 --> 04:08:48.360
of those like we could do that yeah we'd have to get one of those although

04:08:48.360 --> 04:08:52.360
about this size it actually probably doesn't matter because it's not going to list as much

04:08:52.360 --> 04:08:56.360
yeah this thing is freaking huge it depends where you go how

04:08:56.360 --> 04:09:00.360
wide is the WAN set I think it's like WAN on a

04:09:00.360 --> 04:09:04.360
yacht oh no dude I'm on a boat

04:09:04.360 --> 04:09:08.360
do you want to do WAN on a boat the title makes itself the Yacht WAN

04:09:08.360 --> 04:09:12.360
after dark is just when it gets late no I was I was thinking

04:09:12.360 --> 04:09:16.360
of like the distance between 101 and 105 and if that

04:09:16.360 --> 04:09:18.360
was even 130 feet

04:09:20.360 --> 04:09:24.360
oh really like how wide are these buildings

04:09:24.360 --> 04:09:28.360
130 feet is a big thing

04:09:28.360 --> 04:09:32.360
it's like actually horrifying how large 130 foot

04:09:32.360 --> 04:09:34.360
boat is

04:09:36.360 --> 04:09:40.360
I think this would be a mistake I think this would be a mistake more

04:09:40.360 --> 04:09:44.360
fast as says OMG phone the guy already pull the trigger

04:09:44.360 --> 04:09:48.360
just call the guy go he will take you that's maybe

04:09:48.360 --> 04:09:52.360
not necessarily I'll go see 130 feet is a

04:09:52.360 --> 04:09:56.360
big boat you know you got a

04:09:56.360 --> 04:10:00.360
60 foot boat for two and a half million 130 foot is just too much

04:10:00.360 --> 04:10:04.360
boat tell me this Dan tell me this how do they transport this

04:10:04.360 --> 04:10:08.360
on land does it just never go to land again

04:10:08.360 --> 04:10:10.360
normally you just put it on a larger ship

04:10:12.360 --> 04:10:16.360
there are boats that carry boats and they sink into the

04:10:16.360 --> 04:10:20.360
water then pick up the boat okay tell me this tell me this

04:10:20.360 --> 04:10:24.360
if we wanted to dry dock it while we were working

04:10:24.360 --> 04:10:28.360
on it is that a thing even yeah absolutely how

04:10:28.360 --> 04:10:32.360
like how do we could we move it inland or does it have to be like

04:10:32.360 --> 04:10:36.360
you could probably put it on a trailer that would cost a lot of money but

04:10:36.360 --> 04:10:40.360
it's this very few places that can deal with 130

04:10:40.360 --> 04:10:44.360
but there are places there are larger boats than this

04:10:44.360 --> 04:10:48.360
there's boats that are designed so that they can like partially sink themselves

04:10:48.360 --> 04:10:52.360
to get under other boats and then raise back up out of the water and move them away

04:10:52.360 --> 04:10:56.360
it's probably not going to be like crazy around here maybe on the island I don't exactly know

04:10:58.360 --> 04:11:02.360
so you're saying AJ might move here if we get a tech yacht

04:11:04.360 --> 04:11:08.360
the ice cream machine didn't do it the cookie

04:11:08.360 --> 04:11:12.360
didn't do it maybe tech yacht

04:11:14.360 --> 04:11:18.360
okay I'm just looking now we got it

04:11:18.360 --> 04:11:22.360
I'm looking for a reference here because I think that

04:11:22.360 --> 04:11:26.360
I'm right in this just give me a second okay

04:11:26.360 --> 04:11:30.360
moving it is content oh my god actually probably would be a very interesting

04:11:30.360 --> 04:11:34.360
yeah because like realistically we're going to want to do so much

04:11:34.360 --> 04:11:38.360
stuff to it that I I wouldn't want to like

04:11:38.360 --> 04:11:42.360
go down to the marina for our shoot every day

04:11:42.360 --> 04:11:46.360
we actually be convenient to have it way closer to here

04:11:46.360 --> 04:11:50.360
for reference you guys have both been to smash jams yeah

04:11:50.360 --> 04:11:54.360
it is as long as there are the seven courts

04:11:54.360 --> 04:11:58.360
it will fit in smash jams one of the halls

04:11:58.360 --> 04:12:02.360
that is how long the boat is

04:12:02.360 --> 04:12:06.360
oh that's too big that's gotta be unnecessary

04:12:06.360 --> 04:12:10.360
everything that we listed out that you wanted to do I'm pretty sure we can do oh it'll do everything

04:12:10.360 --> 04:12:14.360
and sleep for staff members call the guy

04:12:14.360 --> 04:12:18.360
oh I don't know if I should call the guy that might just be too big 100

04:12:18.360 --> 04:12:22.360
yeah I feel like you should call the guy just to see it because a lot of that

04:12:22.360 --> 04:12:26.360
space is probably the other thing is that he's not just that boat he has

04:12:26.360 --> 04:12:30.360
loads of boats and he could show you different ones and give you advice

04:12:30.360 --> 04:12:34.360
and maybe help you make a recommendation or just talk to him just

04:12:34.360 --> 04:12:38.360
have a fun day and go see the guy you don't have to see him just have a conversation

04:12:38.360 --> 04:12:42.360
well no I'm gonna go see the guy go see the boat

04:12:42.360 --> 04:12:46.360
and the boat okay I'll go see the guy yeah I'll go see the boat

04:12:46.360 --> 04:12:50.360
cause even if you don't end up doing it like whatever that's cool I don't know

04:12:50.360 --> 04:12:54.360
that's fun you gotta do fun things my nicest version of

04:12:54.360 --> 04:12:58.360
fun is like I'm gonna stay home and look at my TV in my

04:12:58.360 --> 04:13:02.360
look at my TV he's gonna be in the same room as his TV and then

04:13:02.360 --> 04:13:06.360
reading comments on his phone yeah good call yeah I'm gonna

04:13:06.360 --> 04:13:10.360
be upset because my family wants to watch the upstairs TV and I want to watch the

04:13:10.360 --> 04:13:14.360
downstairs TV they want to watch the TV in the main galley

04:13:14.360 --> 04:13:18.360
when they go look at a boat but it was so much work to build the downstairs

04:13:18.360 --> 04:13:22.360
theater room why don't they want to watch them there maybe they'll watch it when

04:13:22.360 --> 04:13:26.360
you're out on your boat maybe they just

04:13:26.360 --> 04:13:30.360
that would be the time they chose I will say this I will say this

04:13:30.360 --> 04:13:34.360
the wife approval factor of boat

04:13:34.360 --> 04:13:38.360
is low much lower than wife approval factor

04:13:38.360 --> 04:13:42.360
of tech plane I can't explain why

04:13:42.360 --> 04:13:46.360
like I literally I know it's not like cause it's a secret I'm just telling you

04:13:46.360 --> 04:13:50.360
that when I have had these conversations but tech plane doesn't sound like it's gonna be real

04:13:50.360 --> 04:13:54.360
she literally can't even set foot on this thing

04:13:54.360 --> 04:13:58.360
on a 130 foot boat cruise ships she gets real

04:13:58.360 --> 04:14:02.360
she gets seasick on like the bc ferries yeah like no

04:14:02.360 --> 04:14:04.360
she gets seasick

04:14:06.360 --> 04:14:10.360
like tech plane is boring though yeah the tech boat

04:14:10.360 --> 04:14:14.360
willing spy says boats get you laid dude I'm married

04:14:14.360 --> 04:14:16.360
still work

04:14:20.360 --> 04:14:24.360
you can get laid within your relationship okay that's a lie Luke

04:14:24.360 --> 04:14:28.360
we all know that ah

04:14:30.360 --> 04:14:34.360
look works okay

04:14:34.360 --> 04:14:38.360
I have no comment now or ever on the traditionality

04:14:38.360 --> 04:14:42.360
or non-traditionality of mine and Yvonne's sexual relationship

04:14:42.360 --> 04:14:46.360
wait you're supposed to get laid when you're in a relationship

04:14:46.360 --> 04:14:50.360
no comment I gotta make some calls

04:14:52.360 --> 04:14:56.360
no comment I think it's time for

04:14:56.360 --> 04:15:00.360
when after dark I feel like we've been in that mode

04:15:00.360 --> 04:15:04.360
for a minute but you know

04:15:06.360 --> 04:15:10.360
call the guy I think it'll be fun you don't even have to go see it

04:15:10.360 --> 04:15:14.360
alright call the guy okay when after dark

04:15:14.360 --> 04:15:18.360
could you get like a more cargo inspired plane and then have less issues

04:15:18.360 --> 04:15:22.360
with if I wanted to pay for hauling around

04:15:22.360 --> 04:15:26.360
a giant cargo plane I don't

04:15:26.360 --> 04:15:30.360
the fuel burn is just yeah like some of those corporate jets

04:15:30.360 --> 04:15:34.360
they're just like they're like a little tiny little just firing

04:15:34.360 --> 04:15:38.360
through the air like they're that's how you that's how you keep the prices down

04:15:40.360 --> 04:15:42.360
yes we're only now getting to when after dark

04:15:44.360 --> 04:15:46.360
sorry

04:15:48.360 --> 04:15:52.360
you know Linus was really worried about the meta topics on the show which automatically meant

04:15:52.360 --> 04:15:56.360
it was going to be a fun and long wind show yeah

04:15:56.360 --> 04:16:00.360
my brain stormed some stuff before the universe

04:16:02.360 --> 04:16:06.360
you good Dan are you ready okay sorry

04:16:06.360 --> 04:16:10.360
hello LLD I just turned 13 and I'm going to micro center for the first time

04:16:10.360 --> 04:16:14.360
any recommendations for a first visit

04:16:14.360 --> 04:16:18.360
also what do you think the future of mac gaming is will it improve

04:16:18.360 --> 04:16:22.360
I mean I think it'll improve whether it improves

04:16:22.360 --> 04:16:26.360
materially enough to make a difference that I don't have a crystal ball that'll

04:16:26.360 --> 04:16:30.360
tell me as for recommendations for a first visit I would say

04:16:30.360 --> 04:16:34.360
look around see everything you don't have to buy anything

04:16:34.360 --> 04:16:38.360
I always loved just like hanging out at the computer store

04:16:38.360 --> 04:16:42.360
no seriously if when my mom was headed into town near a future shop

04:16:42.360 --> 04:16:46.360
or a best buy or something she would usually tell me and we'd go walk around for like

04:16:46.360 --> 04:16:50.360
15 minutes and I would want to go with her on the trip just so I could do that

04:16:50.360 --> 04:16:54.360
but you don't have to buy anything no I would buy generally nothing

04:16:54.360 --> 04:16:58.360
surprise surprise but I would also

04:16:58.360 --> 04:17:02.360
I would go to the keyboards see stuff experience it

04:17:02.360 --> 04:17:06.360
and then fester before you actually spend any money especially experience it the reason why I said the keyboards

04:17:06.360 --> 04:17:10.360
is because you can shop around online as much as you want but until you feel the switches

04:17:10.360 --> 04:17:14.360
you're not going to know which one you like the most it doesn't matter how many times people describe them

04:17:14.360 --> 04:17:18.360
you've got to fill it out to know what you're going to want and that doesn't mean buy a keyboard

04:17:18.360 --> 04:17:22.360
at all but like it's a cool thing to be able to do that in person

04:17:22.360 --> 04:17:26.360
and if I remember correctly you can do that at a micro center I've never actually been to one

04:17:26.360 --> 04:17:30.360
they don't have them in Canada but

04:17:30.360 --> 04:17:34.360
yeah if you can actually experience

04:17:34.360 --> 04:17:38.360
stuff in person it's a fairly unique experience people are saying

04:17:38.360 --> 04:17:42.360
yes you can yeah that's sweet man I would I would take that opportunity

04:17:42.360 --> 04:17:46.360
hey Linus I've noticed that the segue

04:17:46.360 --> 04:17:50.360
to our sponsor has evolved into just an obnoxious catchphrase lately

04:17:50.360 --> 04:17:54.360
I miss when they were clever topical jokes is it something you've noticed as well

04:17:56.360 --> 04:17:58.360
they've always been just taking the piss

04:18:00.360 --> 04:18:04.360
the more you think things have changed the more they've stayed the same

04:18:04.360 --> 04:18:08.360
sometimes we do it in a bit more of a creative way

04:18:08.360 --> 04:18:12.360
and other times we are just

04:18:12.360 --> 04:18:14.360
completely self-referential about it

04:18:16.360 --> 04:18:20.360
sometimes they are intentionally terrible

04:18:20.360 --> 04:18:24.360
sometimes there will be one that's better that the writer has written

04:18:24.360 --> 04:18:26.360
and I'll be in a mood and I'll make it way worse

04:18:30.360 --> 04:18:34.360
that sounds about right yeah I don't know what to tell you that definitely sounds about right

04:18:34.360 --> 04:18:38.360
yeah yellow, Linus, Lan and Luke

04:18:38.360 --> 04:18:42.360
why are server chassis so expensive they are less flashy

04:18:42.360 --> 04:18:46.360
than most normal consumer cases but often twice the price finding cheap

04:18:46.360 --> 04:18:50.360
racks also sucks I can tell you that because there's so much more metal in them

04:18:50.360 --> 04:18:54.360
they've got to be rigid because the way they slide them in and out

04:18:54.360 --> 04:18:58.360
they've got to come with rails it's also just enterprise stuff

04:18:58.360 --> 04:19:02.360
it's also lower volume like when you buy a $40 computer

04:19:02.360 --> 04:19:06.360
case off of Newegg or whatever they're making hundreds of thousands of those

04:19:06.360 --> 04:19:10.360
things when you buy like a server chassis I mean you don't even really get to buy

04:19:10.360 --> 04:19:14.360
server chassis from very many companies most of them are just they're doing integration

04:19:14.360 --> 04:19:18.360
now like I don't know

04:19:18.360 --> 04:19:22.360
thousands they might make like I couldn't give you an exact idea of what the volumes are

04:19:22.360 --> 04:19:26.360
but they're definitely very very different

04:19:26.360 --> 04:19:30.360
and anytime you're buying it's also the intention

04:19:30.360 --> 04:19:34.360
most people who buy a server are doing it with some kind of business intent

04:19:34.360 --> 04:19:38.360
and there's just automatically a markup for that anytime

04:19:38.360 --> 04:19:42.360
your product is helping someone else make money their value

04:19:42.360 --> 04:19:46.360
calculus for that product becomes very different than if they're just

04:19:46.360 --> 04:19:50.360
using it to consume water or whatever the case may be yeah

04:19:50.360 --> 04:19:54.360
hey oh finally needed to get the stick locks

04:19:54.360 --> 04:19:58.360
glad you still carry them after all this time how do you decide

04:19:58.360 --> 04:20:02.360
which LTT Store items are to live perpetually

04:20:02.360 --> 04:20:06.360
on the store well those we just produced too many

04:20:06.360 --> 04:20:10.360
because our cost on them was pretty low and we were like oh yeah these should do well

04:20:10.360 --> 04:20:14.360
and then they did well but not that well and so we still have them

04:20:14.360 --> 04:20:18.360
if you see something on the store that you like and it's in stock

04:20:18.360 --> 04:20:22.360
you should buy it because a lot of the time

04:20:22.360 --> 04:20:26.360
even if we did want to reorder it like with the indoor hoody indoor hoody was a nightmare

04:20:26.360 --> 04:20:30.360
because our situation with the

04:20:30.360 --> 04:20:34.360
existing manufacturer was not tenable and

04:20:34.360 --> 04:20:38.360
sourcing that material again was impossible

04:20:38.360 --> 04:20:40.360
so if you see something you like just get it

04:20:42.360 --> 04:20:46.360
Luke has an 8 sleep owner what are your thoughts on companies

04:20:46.360 --> 04:20:50.360
removing features after purchase referring to the removal of support for home

04:20:50.360 --> 04:20:54.360
assistant and requiring internet to function at all

04:20:54.360 --> 04:20:58.360
my ownership and usage of it is not an endorsement of it

04:20:58.360 --> 04:21:02.360
nor is mine very endorsement you still use one

04:21:02.360 --> 04:21:06.360
we don't work with them anymore though as LMG

04:21:06.360 --> 04:21:10.360
so that's just my personal 8 sleep mattress

04:21:10.360 --> 04:21:14.360
mine is a personal one as well I bought it we are both boys

04:21:14.360 --> 04:21:18.360
who tend to burn at night with ladies who

04:21:18.360 --> 04:21:20.360
tend to freeze

04:21:22.360 --> 04:21:26.360
my quality of life is improved by having it I will not tell you

04:21:26.360 --> 04:21:30.360
to buy one I do not appreciate their business practices I do not appreciate

04:21:30.360 --> 04:21:34.360
the way that they use their software

04:21:34.360 --> 04:21:38.360
I do not appreciate the closed sourceness of it someone messaged me in

04:21:38.360 --> 04:21:42.360
full plan chat last week saying that there's an open source

04:21:42.360 --> 04:21:46.360
thing where somebody found a way to get around it and

04:21:46.360 --> 04:21:50.360
unlock those features anyways maybe look into something like that I don't know

04:21:50.360 --> 04:21:54.360
I don't know anything about it mine

04:21:54.360 --> 04:21:58.360
to be honest I have it cranked to be as cold as it can possibly

04:21:58.360 --> 04:22:02.360
be 100% of the time and that is the best thing it could possibly be for me

04:22:02.360 --> 04:22:04.360
so I don't need it

04:22:08.360 --> 04:22:12.360
I don't know it's not an endorsement I almost like regret that

04:22:12.360 --> 04:22:16.360
people know that I have one because I think that people know that I have one and then

04:22:16.360 --> 04:22:20.360
assume that it's an endorsement and it's not hi

04:22:20.360 --> 04:22:24.360
yay trade wars Luke any cool factory tours you've gone

04:22:24.360 --> 04:22:28.360
on recently or have scheduled I don't know if we can talk about

04:22:28.360 --> 04:22:32.360
the one we have scheduled can we talk about that

04:22:32.360 --> 04:22:36.360
I think so I think we can't say when do you want to double check that we can talk about it

04:22:36.360 --> 04:22:40.360
before we talk about it I'm rather certain we can talk about it we just can't say when okay and

04:22:40.360 --> 04:22:44.360
the details sure we can say like where sure

04:22:44.360 --> 04:22:48.360
so going back to NASA and I'm bringing

04:22:48.360 --> 04:22:52.360
other people more different people and that includes Sir Linus here

04:22:52.360 --> 04:22:56.360
and it's going to be great no video don't get your hopes up no video it is

04:22:56.360 --> 04:23:00.360
not content but it will make me content

04:23:00.360 --> 04:23:04.360
this will be the give me the thing

04:23:06.360 --> 04:23:10.360
I'm pretty sure this is the first trip we've ever been on that isn't work

04:23:10.360 --> 04:23:14.360
together holy crap that's sort of terrible a little bit

04:23:14.360 --> 04:23:18.360
that's kind of embarrassing actually I think it's true though I think you might be right

04:23:18.360 --> 04:23:22.360
that dude that's that's a little rough

04:23:22.360 --> 04:23:26.360
that's not great you had kids it makes sense I'm not that worried

04:23:26.360 --> 04:23:30.360
what's your excuse what do you think

04:23:30.360 --> 04:23:34.360
what do you think but yeah that'll be exciting

04:23:34.360 --> 04:23:38.360
I'm also I'm going to try to link up with some dude

04:23:38.360 --> 04:23:42.360
who has wheat fields and I want to go run the combine

04:23:42.360 --> 04:23:46.360
that's going to happen later this year you're not going to like Seifmo or something

04:23:46.360 --> 04:23:50.360
are you no no no but I want to drive the combine

04:23:50.360 --> 04:23:54.360
I think that would be sick there's another dude that invited me to go

04:23:54.360 --> 04:23:58.360
you're actually going to play farming simulator in real life that is an actual goal

04:23:58.360 --> 04:24:02.360
Dan and I were talking earlier today about how like you know sometimes

04:24:02.360 --> 04:24:06.360
things get really complicated you just want to do something dramatically different

04:24:06.360 --> 04:24:10.360
like there's this old joke that like an ideal day for a programmer

04:24:10.360 --> 04:24:14.360
would be four days of like hardcore coding in the morning and then just like

04:24:14.360 --> 04:24:18.360
move boxes for the rest of the day yeah like you want to

04:24:18.360 --> 04:24:22.360
shift what your brain is working on what your body is working on etc

04:24:22.360 --> 04:24:26.360
and I had this thought after that conversation of like I think I've really

04:24:26.360 --> 04:24:30.360
identified the thing that I like doing when I take vacation

04:24:30.360 --> 04:24:32.360
which is just other work

04:24:34.360 --> 04:24:38.360
but like very different like I'm very excited to go run

04:24:38.360 --> 04:24:42.360
the combine for a while that sounds great that's like

04:24:42.360 --> 04:24:46.360
that's like peak possible thing that I could do on a vacation

04:24:46.360 --> 04:24:50.360
just don't get murdered by Gordon Freeman no it should be fine

04:24:50.360 --> 04:24:54.360
Luke needs to return to monkey I think you're not doing enough

04:24:54.360 --> 04:24:58.360
like actual physical things you're not exuding your will into the universe

04:24:58.360 --> 04:25:02.360
you're just kind of making computers do stuff we were talking about digging a ditch

04:25:02.360 --> 04:25:06.360
and I got excited yeah digging a ditch is a great example

04:25:06.360 --> 04:25:10.360
that sounds sick I don't want to do this every day I don't want to do it every day

04:25:10.360 --> 04:25:14.360
but man if I can go do that for a week and like just really

04:25:14.360 --> 04:25:18.360
get into it for a week like this is a this is very white color

04:25:18.360 --> 04:25:22.360
work type person yeah these are very white color

04:25:22.360 --> 04:25:26.360
world problems absolutely totally

04:25:26.360 --> 04:25:30.360
absolutely the masculine urge to dig a hole says to catch

04:25:30.360 --> 04:25:34.360
actually that's what I'm talking about when I'm talking about digging a ditch do that stuff

04:25:34.360 --> 04:25:36.360
because I just have meetings

04:25:38.360 --> 04:25:42.360
Linus is addicted to comments and Luke is addicted to work

04:25:42.360 --> 04:25:46.360
Linus being addicted to comments is Linus being addicted to work just to be clear

04:25:48.360 --> 04:25:52.360
Anywho moving on

04:25:52.360 --> 04:25:56.360
hello LLD Linus my harmony remote and hub died

04:25:56.360 --> 04:26:00.360
I'm looking for a replacement you mentioned testing the sofa baton x1

04:26:00.360 --> 04:26:04.360
sofa baton any updates

04:26:04.360 --> 04:26:08.360
or new recommendations I tried it and I found the setup process

04:26:08.360 --> 04:26:12.360
so obtuse that I resolved to just eBay a harmony

04:26:12.360 --> 04:26:16.360
but I did not put I did not invest significant time

04:26:16.360 --> 04:26:20.360
into it and realistically the harmony setup is pretty obtuse too

04:26:20.360 --> 04:26:24.360
so make of that what you will my answer is no I don't have

04:26:24.360 --> 04:26:28.360
a recommendation and no I haven't tried switchbots new remote but

04:26:28.360 --> 04:26:32.360
we do have a video coming on just kind of

04:26:32.360 --> 04:26:36.360
building a brain dead simple media setup for smash champs

04:26:36.360 --> 04:26:40.360
so that customers can use it and play switch games and tune into badminton matches

04:26:40.360 --> 04:26:44.360
and stuff on the TV in the lounge Elijah is working on it so maybe it will

04:26:44.360 --> 04:26:48.360
include some of these things or maybe it won't I don't know

04:26:48.360 --> 04:26:52.360
I'll find out about a week or two before you guys do

04:26:52.360 --> 04:26:56.360
when we film the video I just suggested a HDMI

04:26:56.360 --> 04:27:00.360
switching box but well

04:27:00.360 --> 04:27:04.360
let's see hey DLO I recently was promoted to a manager

04:27:04.360 --> 04:27:08.360
at the toy store I work at and I'm curious to know if any of you have any advice

04:27:08.360 --> 04:27:12.360
for something new someone new to a management and leadership position

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you have two ears and one mouth

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use them accordingly your job is

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not really to be better than all the people that you manage

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your job is to use them as well as you can your job is to make their lives easier

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so that they can do the best they can do

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don't do their job for them don't micro it

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evening boys Linus I just got my

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S25 Ultra yesterday and I'm mostly loving it how are you feeling about the

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switch back from iOS? I haven't yet

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Samsung does not let us keep devices that they seed us

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so I don't actually have one yet

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so that one that one went back to Samsung

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hello best Luke Dan and second best Linus

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on YouTube which Linus is better

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probably it's horrible some of the hockey players are pretty cool

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he said on YouTube though there's a couple hockey players

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everyone's on YouTube why are CPUs and motherboard sold separately

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instead of being soldered together do you think this will ever become the norm

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I mean you can buy ones that are soldered

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you can especially on like Chinese market places

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where they'll have like mobile chips that are manufactured

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onto desktop boards and stuff in some markets they are quite

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popular I am looking at

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the way the way the winds

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are blowing we actually did a video a little while back

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buy it or build a computer while you still can

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yeah it made me sad this is a good

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conversation about the direction things are going and how

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with RAM speeds going up

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and signal integrity being a challenge and

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tighter integration continuing to be

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advantageous from both a cost and performance and also even an

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economic perspective it does feel like a matter of time

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before they come fully integrated gonna be a sad day

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maybe

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Linus are you still using the ASUS 27 inch 4K OLED

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at home from the video a few weeks ago or did you switch back to something larger

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I am still using it I am tempted sometimes to switch to something

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larger especially like I haven't fired up ANO lately

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and part of the reason is that

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my monitor is kind of too small I love

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having my world laid out in front of me

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I guess I could play upstairs where I still have a 42 inch monitor

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but I do most of my gaming downstairs now because my kids are down there

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wherever my kids are I want to be near

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I want to be hanging out so no I am still using the 27 inch

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FLEX that's a really nice size

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what size is that thing again maybe on FLEX

04:30:26.360 --> 04:30:30.360
I want to say like 38 inch 45 that's a 45 inch display

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that thing is that thing is sick I could also probably do

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like I could probably do 32 at 4K

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that's what PLUF uses and that's a really nice size too 27 is feeling a little

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a little small but you can't fault

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the picture clarity man that pixel density

04:30:54.360 --> 04:30:58.360
wait oh I got totally confused no the one I'm running

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is actually the one from the previous ASUS video the 1440p

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480 hertz or 500 hertz one or whatever sorry sorry sorry

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so that's why I haven't changed it out is because the high refresh rate is crazy

04:31:10.360 --> 04:31:14.360
the reason I was thinking 4K 240 is because we have a video coming

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shot in my basement earlier this week

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where we were looking at a 4K 240 hertz that is still there

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but no I will be swapping it out for the 500 hertz sorry sorry sorry sorry

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27 inches is feeling a little small these days though

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but 500 hertz man it's wild it's wild

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okay odd question but hear me out since Linus has

04:31:38.360 --> 04:31:42.360
impeccable taste in painting cars I was wondering what color he suggests I paint my car

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it's a 1998 color currently silver

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JDM Subaru Legacy what

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I don't even know what this car is JDM Legacy

04:31:54.360 --> 04:31:58.360
okay oh okay that's pretty cool

04:31:58.360 --> 04:32:02.360
is this it oh man that's a

04:32:02.360 --> 04:32:06.360
that's a cool car what would I

04:32:06.360 --> 04:32:10.360
pink and green we can do better than that

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I love the something with this car we'll paint it

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whatever color you suggest so do be careful I love the

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keeping the Subaru classic like gold rims so you need a color that

04:32:22.360 --> 04:32:26.360
accents the gold rims well oh man

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see that's why we went purple on poofs

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because I thought the purple and gold look was royal AF

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purple would probably look I think really sick

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I think purple would be amazing you gotta keep the gold rims though

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I feel like that's like ooh shoe as yen

04:32:46.360 --> 04:32:50.360
says emerald green that's not bad either that would probably be sick

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especially if you get some flake in there

04:32:54.360 --> 04:32:58.360
you could do like a purple to green like pearlescent

04:32:58.360 --> 04:33:02.360
that's expensive though I don't want to recommend somebody by that that's just a lot of money

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but if they did want to spend the money I'm gonna say purple

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gold green with the flake it's gonna be like a dark purple though

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alright hit me Dan

04:33:14.360 --> 04:33:18.360
looking forward to yoga pants for my spouse so many out there

04:33:18.360 --> 04:33:22.360
suck and your team makes it great Linus how do you feel about live action

04:33:22.360 --> 04:33:26.360
how to train your dragon movie I haven't kept up with anything

04:33:26.360 --> 04:33:30.360
I saw the initial trailer and then that's realistically the most

04:33:30.360 --> 04:33:34.360
I want to know about a movie that I'm gonna watch so I'm gonna intentionally

04:33:34.360 --> 04:33:38.360
um cloister cloister is that the one cloister myself

04:33:38.360 --> 04:33:42.360
whatever I'm gonna I'm gonna avoid it it looks like they're staying very

04:33:42.360 --> 04:33:46.360
true to the original cloister no it's not a sequester

04:33:46.360 --> 04:33:50.360
no not the sequester the the mollusk pokemon

04:33:54.360 --> 04:33:56.360
such a red reference

04:33:58.360 --> 04:34:02.360
people aren't even trying to be helpful when have we ever

04:34:04.360 --> 04:34:08.360
oh man anyway I'm avoiding any

04:34:08.360 --> 04:34:12.360
information about it I will watch it I it feels

04:34:12.360 --> 04:34:16.360
like kind of unnecessary especially because the original is perfect

04:34:16.360 --> 04:34:20.360
it's a perfect movie it's the best movie but

04:34:20.360 --> 04:34:24.360
I'll watch it and hopefully they don't ruin it too bad it looks like it's pretty true to the original

04:34:24.360 --> 04:34:28.360
should I see how to train your dragon Linus the last movie you recommended me was

04:34:28.360 --> 04:34:32.360
not fun what movie did I recommend you the breakfast club

04:34:32.360 --> 04:34:36.360
oh pfft yeah but I recommended it to you because it was terrible

04:34:36.360 --> 04:34:40.360
wait you've never seen how to train your dragon I have not

04:34:40.360 --> 04:34:44.360
oh it's a perfect movie it's the best it's literally the best okay

04:34:48.360 --> 04:34:52.360
let's see I've got one more here

04:34:52.360 --> 04:34:56.360
Luke have you tried stalker I know you enjoy talkar but hate the cheaters in company

04:34:56.360 --> 04:35:00.360
talkar took a lot of information from stalker I highly recommend stalker 2

04:35:00.360 --> 04:35:04.360
or gamma don't know what the gamma is

04:35:04.360 --> 04:35:08.360
if I remember correctly gamma is a really heavily

04:35:08.360 --> 04:35:12.360
modded stalker stalker gamma

04:35:12.360 --> 04:35:16.360
yeah stalker anomaly mod yeah but it's like

04:35:16.360 --> 04:35:20.360
it's like the way to play that game as far as my understanding goes

04:35:20.360 --> 04:35:24.360
get out of here gamma it's what the titular

04:35:24.360 --> 04:35:28.360
stalker character says to the radiation

04:35:28.360 --> 04:35:32.360
people Dan's losing it

04:35:32.360 --> 04:35:36.360
I've been recommended stalker like a trillion times I never played it

04:35:36.360 --> 04:35:40.360
when I was younger and honestly the graphics look

04:35:40.360 --> 04:35:44.360
pretty rough to go back to I might

04:35:44.360 --> 04:35:48.360
at some point I was very interested in the new stalker game coming out but then

04:35:48.360 --> 04:35:52.360
whatever it's called stalker supposed to have this really cool AI system

04:35:54.360 --> 04:35:58.360
oh my goodness saying that these days puts the wrong

04:35:58.360 --> 04:36:02.360
idea in people's heads is shadow of Chernobyl the first one

04:36:02.360 --> 04:36:06.360
that rings a bell I believe that's the like full title

04:36:08.360 --> 04:36:12.360
it's just looking at the long long time yeah this seems

04:36:12.360 --> 04:36:16.360
like kind of half life too yeah it's pretty old

04:36:16.360 --> 04:36:20.360
gamma is quite modded and even gamma looks pretty

04:36:20.360 --> 04:36:24.360
old I mean maybe if there's like an RTX remix

04:36:24.360 --> 04:36:28.360
for it or something I would definitely jump on that

04:36:28.360 --> 04:36:32.360
the new stalker looks really cool but there's this

04:36:32.360 --> 04:36:36.360
yeah NPC AI system thing

04:36:36.360 --> 04:36:38.360
where it's supposed to be like

04:36:40.360 --> 04:36:44.360
the way that I got it explained to me is that your actions even very small ones

04:36:44.360 --> 04:36:48.360
are supposed to quake through the NPCs in the world very heavily

04:36:50.360 --> 04:36:54.360
and as far as my understanding goes that was like wasn't working

04:36:54.360 --> 04:36:58.360
on release of the new stalker game so I've been kind of just biting my time

04:36:58.360 --> 04:37:02.360
for it to be good

04:37:02.360 --> 04:37:06.360
and I've been biting my time to tell you guys hey we'll see you again next week

04:37:06.360 --> 04:37:10.360
same bad time same bad channel bye

04:37:16.360 --> 04:37:18.360
I have to pee again

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how come land's been crashing like this