You have to account for that somehow.
So. Oh, and I suspect it would probably be recovered.
If I didn't go run around and play paintball with it, that's okay.
It's worth it. Oh, cool.
I don't know if this is true because it's on Facebook and everything on Facebook is fake, but the heads on Easter Island.
Um, archaeologists have long suspected that some of them had a buried body.
Um, I thought we knew that. I don't know.
If it's on Facebook, it's a lie. It says P kinetics. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, we've known that for a while.
Oh, everyone's talking about the, uh, which one is it?
It's Jake Paul, right? Yeah. The Jake Paul versus, uh, Mike Tyson fight and chat.
I asked people to tell me who wins. So it's going to be spoiled for everyone.
What? Why would you do that? I didn't realize the spoiler thing out until after I asked and I was like, oh,
you are such a dick sometimes.
Yeah. Right now. Yeah. There's a watch party in the other building.
Uh, who was it? Uh, who was I talking to about this?
I think it was, was it? Oh, it was Andrew, um, camera guy, Andrew, uh, he was saying that they are
incentivized to keep the fight going as long as possible.
Um, and he's like super pissed about it. Cause apparently it's like, yeah, cause it's like a sanction fight.
So that means it's like a real fight.
But if the terms of the fight have the fighters getting paid more to drag it
out to fight differently, then that's not really directly affect the match.
Yeah. Then that's not really a fight. But what I could kind of see from, from my point of view is if I was Jake Paul,
I'd be trying to like incentivize my 60 year old opponent to go as many rounds
as possible because that might give him a chance.
Um, they're using 14 ounce gloves, apparently.
Uh, I don't know what that means cause I don't, I don't boxing.
Um, but I guess pretty sure that's a lot heavier than mine where.
Yeah. I think I had 10 or maybe 12, but at a professional level, professional boxing
match is usually 10 for the purpose of training bag work. The standard sizes are 12.
Okay. Yeah. So I think I had 12, so they're using like super heavy gloves then.
Yeah.
Yeah. Kellum says it's disgusting the commission sanctioned the fight in the first place.
Uh, yeah. Cause this is just, this is a circus show, you know, like it's, uh, and to be clear,
like I wouldn't step into a ring with either of them. Like I, I am not a professional fighter.
It's just, uh, it's softer impact with a heavier glove.
Yeah. Oh, the heavier the love, the harder to knock out.
Interesting.
God, oh, so it's harder to like accelerate into it.
Yeah. Okay. Interesting. See, I would have thought heavier glove is like a heavier thing, but.
You got to think about the material that's making it heavier too. Right. It's more cushion.
Yeah. Got it.
They swim in in the kiddie pool.
All right. Yeah. Cool. I mean, there's heavier gloves than 14 ounce, but.
Oh. Hold on. Jordan says there was some, uh, misinformation around the Tim Cook mouse
thing. So I'm glad you pointed that out before we go live, uh, magic mouse.
Hold on. Hold on. Uh, here he is in June telling MKBHD that it's ergonomic, which is obviously
stupid, um, Mac observer.
Okay. Hold on. What is ergonomic? Oops. That page can't be found. Hold on.
This may be fake news. Um, glad we're catching this now. Fake news.
Hold on a second. Hold on.
And it is anyone, uh, I'm trying to separate it called Apple sucks.
Hmm. Yeah. This might be a problem. Get better hobbies.
Geez. I'm not really a fan either, but like, holy crap.
Hold on. Mac observers reporter made a mistake and misquoted cook.
All right. New title. It's the Verges reporter who said that he, the reporter uses an MX three over a magic
mouse. There's no mention of cook using Logitech's products in the WSJ's article.
Check it out. Okay. So, uh, yep.
Okay. Good. I'm glad we caught that. So let's, uh, let's get a new title here.
Let's see, should we go with info wars acquired by the onion?
That has also had some new developments. Apparently, uh, he has control of it again for the time being.
While there's some kind of investigation into it next week.
I just thought it was hilarious that the onion even bit on it at all.
So I didn't still like doing stuff. Uh, I think so.
They're owned by someone. I forget who. Uh, I think so.
They're owned by someone. I forget who.
Enhav says, we have 25 plus budgies.
Should we sell? How would we end his pricing based on color?
If you're asking those questions, you're, you're, you're just, you're asking the wrong
questions. I don't even know. Why do you have that many budgies?
Yeah, I don't, I don't even know. Um, stop.
The onion is still active. Is that a twitch person?
Are you reading twitch? What? Or is that full plane? Full plane. I didn't see it in full plane.
Uh, lots of people talking about it. Oh, I see. Yeah.
Um, hold on.
Okay.
Oh, I have an actual source for this thing. Um, okay.
Hmm. What do we want then?
Um.
Hmm.
Onion relaunched a print edition, which is what let them purchase infowars.
What? Well, hold on. But save it for the show. Save it for the show.
Um, oh, I gave that advice.
What do you think of that? Uh, sure.
No. What about? Uh, about our backpack.
My advice. No, no, just save it. No, no, look at it later.
Look at it later, but I've seen it. Oh, okay.
Um, can I riff about it or should I not? Uh, for title.
Yeah. Yeah. Or maybe it's stupid.
My advice. My advice. Ruin.
Ruin is backpack. No. My product.
My advice ruined my product. Um, I don't know.
I worry about the people who are going to see that headline. Be like, yeah.
Be like, yeah. Yeah. Like he always does.
Dummy.
Let's see. Maybe he should fight Paul next.
For $20 million, I would.
I get knocked out for 20. No, sure. Why not?
Wait, who cares? You even have to. Oh, yeah, that's true.
Just purely only work on cardio and just run the whole time.
You said you want the fight to go for a long time, right?
People would be so mad and you'd have $20 million.
Amazing.
Oh, man. That bro trusted me.
Um, man.
Um,
someone reviewed my company.
Oh, Oh,
my latest business is not a stupid failure.
Surprise. Yeah, let's do it.
I kind of like that.
I'm kind of down.
Sure. Sure.
Okay, sure.
Oh, man. Are we talking about the speeding thing?
Whatever. Cool. The whole internet has talked about it.
We don't, this doesn't have to be a like creator drama show.
Yeah. If you want to hear about Marquez speeding, go look it up.
And like if you're wondering why Jack Doherty and not Marquez,
it's because when I was looking at the Jack Doherty thing,
him like making his cameraman keep rolling when his head was bleeding and stuff,
like it's a bit of a different thing.
To be clear,
neither was good. No. Obviously.
Yeah.
To be fair, I also didn't think we should talk about the Jack Doherty thing.
Yeah. Nice.
We got a bunch of comments that were like, you guys clearly didn't watch the video.
Like, yes, I did actually. What are you talking about?
Anyways, I mean, it's not like it's, it's not like there's a lot of gray area here.
Well, I don't remember. I don't remember. I think they interpreted as like we were trying to,
because we were talking about where the line is of what should get you banned off platforms.
So people thought by having that conversation, we were justifying what he did.
What? No, no,
obviously not. Like, and I kept on.
You kept on trying to draw the line and I kept on being like,
well, blah, blah, blah, blah, because I was trying,
you know, we were trying to get an accurate line. And people thought I was trying to defend
what he was doing. I was like, no. No, we're saying the line should be like
way earlier than that. And all my point was that we need to,
to define it clearly. Yeah.
Because if it's not clearly defined, it won't be enforced. And people took that as like saying that it was okay.
I'm like, my God. Linus promote speeding.
You make me so tired sometimes. Oh,
I can't imagine that. Like,
the amount of, the amount of you get sometimes.
Which drive me up the wall.
My God.
I'll like, I'll have conversations with Linus. I'm like, you just need to not read it.
And then someone will say something very minor
about one random comment that I make. And I'm just like, boom, pissed.
Well, okay. It's so much easier when you're on the outside
because I'll look at something and just be like, that's obviously stupid.
Just ignore it. And then I
can't do it so easily all the time. The Beastie Boy says Linus never speeds on his motorbike.
Yeah. For sure.
Well, I mean, my bike's maximum speed is like 109 kilometers an hour or so.
That's not true. Don't ask me how I know.
I haven't ridden in two years though. So,
Dad, do you know about my, my first car?
Is this not the one with the hole in it? No, that's the one with the hole in it.
Okay. I, my first car,
none of the dials on the dash worked except for the tack.
So at no point in time, but I know how fast I was going or how much fuel I had
or anything. I just,
I just knew if the tack was working. So I would judge my speed based on like,
you know, how fast light poles were going by or like,
it was an automatic. So I couldn't tell a hundred percent, but trying to gauge what gear I was in
and observing what the tack was doing and comparing against other cars on the road,
stuff like that. Never once got a speeding ticket in that car. Just fill it up every Sunday or something.
But yeah, just kind of guess. Well,
I also got pretty used to in that car, judging how much fuel I had by how the car felt.
Oh, that's very good driving, which I can do in my current car now.
Good. Because of that car, I like trained on that car.
There's a lot of things I learned about like, being able to judge what your car is doing.
I can't tell in a car. I can tell in my bike. I can tell in a car for sure.
But that's only because I'm like leaning and stuff. Yeah.
I can't tell in a car for sure. Even my TL I can tell. That's crazy.
There's no way I could do that. Yeah.
Oh, are we good to go? I mean, you're adding an extra like person in there. Yeah, we're good to go.
Yeah.
All right. Let's do this thing.
Luke missed his calling as a rally driver. Nah, man.
He is a full fuel tank. Like, look at this guy.
He's not winning any races.
How do I look upset?
I didn't hit him. I aimed at the wall. Oh, my leg.
Do you want another shot? Do you want another pen? Try again.
I'll show you a sore leg.
Are you still limping? It's my pen. Yeah.
Oh. I'm about 30%.
I trained last night. But I went really easy on it.
So you have the same mentality that Jim Ratz heard all the time. This is why.
I did go easy on it. I went very easy on it. Yeah.
And I did not injure it any further. So. And I couldn't tell anything was wrong
until the next day because I thought I did fine. Yeah, well.
Yeah. But I will honestly also just be fine.
I don't know. Easy, men. Easy.
Easy, Jim, Mr. Linus assaults employee. He then speeds home 100%.
Go ahead. Put it on Reddit right now.
I don't even care. All right. I'm posting it now.
Not you. Oh, sorry.
I did not hit her. I did not. Oh, hi, Mark.
Oh, hi, Mark. Mark went home.
Okay. You guys ready? All right.
Let's do this thing. Notice that we didn't answer a light.
I said later.
Later. We'll do it later. What is it?
Just like after first topic or what?
Oh, we're just not telling him. Okay.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to the WAN Show. We've got a great, great show lined up for you guys today.
Only the best. Only the best show for you guys.
I forget what our headline topic is, but Amazon is going to be taking on Sheehan
and Temu with a new sub $20 Amazon haul.
Also, our headline topic, I am less stupid than some people think I am.
Dang! I didn't say by much.
No, I didn't say by much. Oh. Yeah, I didn't say by much.
Just less. Just less. New business, apparently, pretty cool.
What else we got going on this week? If you go to websites on boxes, it might be a good or bad week for you.
It depends on what you think about certain websites. I'm going to leave that as vague as it is.
The wicked thing. Oh. I mean, it's in main news topics.
I know. But there's literally only two things.
Really? We're getting pornographic within the first minute of the show?
There is only two things in main news topics. I told them it was a good show this week.
I'm going to take both of them, okay? I told them it was a good show. That's not necessarily bad.
It's just a news topic. Hot take.
We're not saying the subject matter is good or bad. All right.
Let's get the intro going. Jeez.
This is, I think, objectively bad. Sony employees allegedly selling personal data of users.
Cool. Way to go, Luke.
The show is brought to you today by Squarespace. Ridge, RocketMoney, and of course, our chair partner secret lab,
our laptop partner LG, and our rap partner Dbrand.
Why don't we jump into not our headline topic?
Oh. And why don't we talk about the channel hiatus stuff from this week?
Yeah. We should probably get that kicked out as quickly as possible.
I want to preface this by saying that we will not and have not and are not going to be commenting
on anything to do with personnel changes here at the company.
That is our policy, and that's the way it's going to be.
So with that in mind then, I've got a small FAQ that I can go through with you guys,
and that is about all we're going to be able to say about it.
So one, what happened this week? We put three channels on hiatus.
TechQuickie, GameLinked, and Mac Address.
For the past year and a half, ever since our week of reflection,
we've had extensive discussions about ways that we can improve our operations
and function more smoothly as a company. We've spent that time working through operational and communication challenges
that we've faced realistically since our hyper growth period from about 2020 to 2022, 2023,
and even before that. We've learned a lot during this time, and we feel that refocusing and refreshing
is the best path forward for the long-term success of the company and even those channels.
Two, what do you have planned for these channels?
The hiatus is to allow our team to evaluate and refocus.
Three, is LMG becoming evil and corporate?
And the answer here is, if anything, I think a little bit of corporate responsibility is long overdue.
Some business management experience was brought in for a good reason.
I mean, we brought Taren in to kind of take a look at things so that we would actually have a full-time CEO
instead of like, when I have time for it, CEO.
We did all of that before the August controversy last year.
We did it for a good reason. We've allowed unsustainable business practices to carry on for far too long in our past,
and this has caused significant issues to morale, to growth, to audience sentiment.
They're unacceptable, and we need to streamline things.
Number four is, can we give suggestions about what we want to see happen on these channels in the future?
And the answer is totally. Acceptable places for that would be the Lennist Tech Tips dot com forum.
We'd love to see your suggestions on the subreddit as well, but it's a little more ephemeral.
A little harder for us to track down in the future, but the LTT forum would be the best part.
And that's it? That's all I have to say about that?
Yeah. Why don't we jump right into...
Oh man, what do you want to do? Oh.
My business isn't stupid. Yeah, my business isn't stupid.
One of the top comments on just about every video about Smash Champs,
the badminton gym slash land gaming center is...
Is that really a business?
Like, is that a thing? What?
To be fair, I think you have even said publicly in the past that you don't suspect it's going to be like a super profitable endeavor.
You just kind of want it to pay for itself. Yeah, but I had a high degree of confidence that it would do that.
Yes. And it seems like that confidence has not been echoed by members of the community.
One of the top comments is also that it seems very cheap.
Ah, well, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that.
But first, a quick review of Smash Champs.
Linus's new badminton facility from Mark makes jet lag games.
Sorry, what's that now? It's not that quick. Oh yeah, it's really not that quick.
A short summary that you have to scroll through. Made the drive today to give it a try.
My usual spots were full. There's a soft opening so you can register for a drop-in session.
I booked online and paid with their system.
I worried based on pictures that parking would be an issue, but the lot was huge, so that was no issue.
Drop-in was $12, which seems pricey, but you get three hours at prime time.
And the courts are way nicer.
The videos they posted don't do it justice. It's beautiful and bright.
The change room especially stood out to me. The courts were fantastic, comfortable, bright without lights in your eyes, and easy to see the shuttle in lines.
I felt like I played a lot better defense than normal. This may have had an effect on that.
Who knows? Actually, it's probably more to do with the high ceilings, but we'll talk about that some other time.
Apparently, the delay for opening was some kind of manufacturing defect on the courts.
It seems fine, but hey, good job committing to the highest standards.
And blah blah blah, how drop-in works. The pro shop seemed fine.
The pricing isn't anything special. Yeah, fair enough. All in all, I was very impressed.
I would love to make it a regular location, but it's far for me.
Okay, yeah, fair enough. Yeah, so that was pretty cool.
Pretty cool to see. We haven't opened up reviews on Google Maps yet.
I read this whole thing because I thought it was cool as well. Because we're not open yet.
We're still soft open.
And I don't think it's really occurred to anyone to leave a review on Facebook.
But yeah, it's exciting to see it not be totally dunked on.
I think the team's been working really hard. I think they've been doing a really great job.
And it's worth noting that any comments on pricing, ignore.
Because this is soft opening pricing, and I don't know that it will remain exactly the way that it is in the longer term.
Random comment on the like, I feel like I played defense better thing.
If you feel like you're in a better environment, you'll often placebo yourself into doing better.
So like that is potentially even a thing, even if we're not accounting for the high ceiling.
That probably isn't it though. So most of the centers in Richmond have lower ceilings.
And the impact that that has on the game is it speeds it up.
And the reason for that is twofold. One is that when you lift up and when you clear, when you hit all the way to the back line,
you are hitting lower. So it's a shorter time for the opponent to react and hit it back.
So it speeds up the game that way. And then the other impact is that it changes the angle of the shuttle
so that you are far more likely to strike the cork directly.
So you think he was playing better defense because shots were going like all the way to the roof?
Hold on, hold on, I'll get to that. So it changes the angle that your racket will impact the shuttle.
So you hit the cork first. Instead of it dropping straight down and hitting the feathers and then the cork,
which absorbs some of the power. So what happens is if you have a higher ceiling,
people are more likely to hit it up higher, giving you more time to get into position to defend.
And then the other impact is that it is more likely to be falling straight down,
making it more difficult for your opponent to generate power.
So your defense is probably better because you can see better,
because you have more time and because your opponent is having a harder time generating power.
Now your opponent having a harder time generating power
does not mean that our facility is bad because the ceilings are too high.
It means the other ones are too low
and people are more easily generating too much power.
In fact, for international play, you should have a ceiling height of at least 32 feet,
which is about, I think it's...
What is the smash dance one? I forget. We're 32 feet. Yeah.
So yeah, pretty cool.
Very excited. All right.
I think it's time, though, for us to change the subject
to talking about Elijah Week.
And we have a special guest here on the WAN Show,
the one, the only... David!
Yvonne. Oh, we both went for the same joke.
Nice. Yeah. Is there a mic or am I just supposed to walk on?
Wait, yeah. Does he have a mic, Dan? Oh, look at that.
Soft opening, you say. Wow. What?
Really? Soft opening of a badminton, sorry. Yeah, but you're good at...
It's been six seconds. You're going to make a soft opening while you got this...
you got this in your hand? At least use two. It's hard.
One topic's on brand. Is his mic on?
I mean... Does it matter? It is, but you guys can't hear it.
Oh, it's on. I mean, one second. It's got to get warmed up.
Just give him a minute. So, what are we supposed to...
We're entering Elijah Week, right? Try rubbing it.
No, not the tall Elijah.
You're going to get burned on it. It would come to war.
You're going to have to talk to everyone after this. I'm going to hate everybody.
Everybody's going to hate you. No, they love you. No, they don't.
They'll hate me for telling you not to rub it. Actually, did you know the trailer for Elijah Week has the most dislikes?
What? Really? Out of all the other trailers?
Wow, what a polarizing figure he is. I think it was because we kind of, like, everyone was wanting Sarah a week after she did that
pumpkin carving stream. There it is. And then the next announcement being my week, everyone was like, no.
So, it's not that you're unpopular. It's just that you're less popular.
Correct. All right, cool. That's okay.
So, yeah, Elijah Week happened. There's three videos up on Floatplane.
You can go watch right now. Oh, it happened. Yeah, it already happened.
Apparently, they're having me after, because if I went before, it would probably, you know,
make people unsubscribe. So, they wanted to at least let it finish before.
But you can meet the team, which is me. That's hi, I'm here.
There was another one, which was me showcasing my very first script.
This script, I did not get hired because of.
I haven't watched this yet, but I want to watch this. I don't get it.
Sorry, what do you mean by that? So, I applied for the writing position back in late 2021.
Oh, you didn't work here in late 2020? Correct.
I worked here in 2023. So, either I missed the email, like, for a whole year, or...
Awkward. Really bad. My bad.
Okay, just quick interjection.
Unironically, and if you're out there, sorry, unironically had someone respond to an email
from me from 2019, which was progressing them to the next stage of the interview process
with the things that they needed to give me for that step.
No note of, like, sorry, this is so many years late or anything.
And here you go. And I was like... I made it go into your attention.
That's incredible. Dude, I'm not hiring that role anymore.
Yeah, but if you were... We have a great person in there.
I'm very happy with how that person's been doing.
It actually blew my mind.
I sat there looking at it for an embarrassingly long period of time, trying to figure out,
like, did I do something wrong? Is this actually...
Am I reading something? Is this a newer email? It's like you've been married for years.
You have, like, three children, and this, like, guy you asked to prom is like, yo, let's go.
I am so down to go to prom with you.
This isn't happening anymore. This is over.
Oh, that's great. And also, you made it horribly.
Oh, my God. Man, attending the 20-year reunion, I got to tell you, some people, like, man, do they
ever age on, like, a very graceful curve?
And then, man, some people, it's just like...
Hit a wall. That's rough. That's rough.
I'm sorry for you. My tenure reunions next year.
I'm scared to go. Are you going? Definitely not.
So he's too cool to go? Yeah. We discussed this last week.
I just... I'd be too famous, you know? See?
This is what I'm talking about. Oh, my God. That hurt me to say.
This is what I'm talking about. Do you think reunions like that are of diminished value now that we have, like, highly connected
social media? Because I think so. You know, like, Facebook is a thing.
I don't think... I don't know. I've always thought that the idea of reunion from people from high school is useless.
Because if I wanted to stay friends with you, I would have stayed friends with you.
Yeah. Too cool. Like, no, I don't know.
I was friends with no one in high school. So, like, why do I want to go back to a bunch of people that bullied me?
Like, I don't like... It's also kind of fair, like, if that's your experience.
No, he's above it. I am. He's risen.
He's like the cream. He's the cream. Whoa.
Soft opening. Anyways... The last video on Elijah Week was Creator vs. Superfan.
Cringe, cringe name. We both said it was cringe when we started filming.
Nice. Sammy definitely stacked the questions in Linus' favor.
No, he didn't even. But if you haven't gone and watched it, you should still go watch it.
He didn't even. I love this look on your face.
The confidence of you and me being... Was this even a post thumbnail?
No. No. Not even a little.
It feels like it's just a random slide from the video.
I think all three of them are just random slides from the video.
Are you going to explain what Creator vs. Superfan even is?
Are you just going to leave them with that? No, basically, what happened was, based on the Sam upgrade video we did a couple months
ago, there was one snippet in that video where Linus mentioned that I have an encyclopedic
knowledge of LTT and everything. And our videos.
I've been surprised by this a few times. But it's a thing.
It's actually like... It's a thing. James asked me today.
Yeah. And I got an answer. Tell you what.
Tell you what. Why don't you come on my podcast and instead of me talking, you talk.
That sounds good. It is Elijah Week.
That's a pretty good point.
No, I was trying to pump you up.
I was trying to fluff your feathers. I feel like you're bullying me. No, no.
This is like high school again. What's going on? What's up?
It's fucking bad about me. What do you mean? No one's talking bad about you, Sammy.
You're doing great. Yeah, we're not talking bad about you right now.
Not right now. That was before. You're doing great.
Go watch the fight. Okay. I'm working.
Anyway, what I was going to say was...
Why are you here? There's literally been times when we've been looking for like a prop or like a product.
And Elijah will be like, yeah, there was that video like two years ago where you guys used
it and we like go and it's like still there. Like that has actually happened.
So his knowledge of our videos is actually unsurpassed or at least that was the theory.
Yes. Where does your encyclopedic knowledge begin?
I would say Langley House. I watched during NCIX days, but I would say...
You were like nine. Yeah, exactly. So I would say that I became kind of a hardcore just watching LTT every day when you guys
were in the Langley House. That was a very based period of time to be watching every day.
I remember when you guys passed a million. Everyone agrees that the content was better than and has only been downhill since then.
100%. Whole room water cooling too. Let's do it.
I mean, who even are these like ancillary characters we have now?
What the f*** is in Elijah? I remember when in the Langley House, we started scripting videos for the first time and it
was like controversial. We did what? Sorry?
We started scripting videos for the first time. No. Super controversial.
You know what sucks about that though? I used to be like so good at ad-libbing and I suck now.
Like I have to do multiple takes of things. I used to have some of that.
That's for losers. Because of hosting live at shows and now I don't have it anymore.
Yeah. Dude, it's a thing that you can practice and you can get really, really good at.
Like the whole getting a product briefing on something and being like, okay, shut up.
You turn to the camera and nailing it. And then doing like eight more of them in the same day.
You can practice it. But if you don't practice it, it doesn't matter how good you are.
It doesn't matter how experienced you are. It is not like riding a bike.
Okay? Elijah could do it someday. Maybe I'll ride a bike.
That was a looting to that you don't know how to ride a bike.
That was actually up for debate being the third video on Elijah week.
I had pitched backflip tutorial. Colton had denied that.
Yeah. Why did you even ask Colton? I didn't.
I asked Sammy and I said we should beg for forgiveness instead of ask for permission.
Absolutely not. What if they went to like a gymnastics center?
I don't care. Look he's talked about this publicly already.
So I'm not disclosing personal medical information that he hasn't already put on the internet
for some reason. Elijah has had half a dozen concussions.
Which is bad. Literally the last one had to relearn his own birthday.
I'm, dude, listen, I'm building. So when I say no f***ing backflips, it is coming from an extremely serious place.
And I am saying that is not happening at work or for work or for clout on my watch.
I'm building resistance though. The more concussions you have.
Not how it works. No fake news. That's obviously fake news.
Don't believe that. Please. Please.
Very much the opposite really. So when I'm talking about this and I'm like, no Elijah's not allowed to do backflips.
It's not a meme. I'm not memin. I'm 100% serious.
What? No. But yeah.
I mean, why was Riley allowed to do one in his trailer?
I don't think he-
Elijah. To be fair, I didn't know Sammy recorded that. I didn't know that he was putting it in that video until you saw it.
My dad. My dad had a, he had a thing that he used to say to me. Okay.
I'm probably revealing more about my childhood than I ever have before. But he used to say, you're cruisin' for a bruisin'.
What does that mean? Can you show us?
I'll let you figure it out. Dan, cover the camera.
Oh God. So, uh, no backflips.
Oh no. Linus, please don't get the lot on this set.
Ow! Ow! Do you know how hard it is to get the lot out of this carpet?
I mean, look, since we're being very honest right now, why don't we just reveal why we
have a wrap sponsor for the show?
Oh yeah. Oh. To cover the table.
Oh. Just in case something gets on it.
This would probably make it easier to clean too. I don't know about that, but I'm assuming.
Dbrand's skin's cleaned very easily with a soft cloth.
Oh, that was a man tested.
Man hours tested. Fortunately, fortunately, no one's seeing this because everyone's watching the Jake
Paul versus Mike Tyson fight because otherwise we are so canceled right now.
Well, they'll watch the VOD, so we're screwed either way.
We can delete the VOD. We're good. That's true.
We can do that. No, it goes out. I was actually asked to come on here not only to promote Elijah Week, but apparently
talk about one of the topics. Oh. What topics?
Did you want to talk about it? Why'd you pick that one? I have a screenshot from James that says, am I allowed to say the P word?
Like corn? Oh. Am I allowed to say that?
Of course you picked that one. Okay. I'll say corn.
Yeah, because of course he did. No, I didn't. Guys are fucking degenerate.
No, no, no, listen, listen, listen, listen. It's literally, he's, he's owned it to the point now where we can't even criticize him
for it anymore. I already forgot about that whole topic, so I was really trying to be like, what one
would you have picked? No, I sent, I sent James a couple and I was like, here's the ones that like I'm fine
and comfortable talking about on, on stream and he said, how about we go with seafood?
He said, pick the corn one that's on, that's on brand for Elijah.
You can say prawn. Okay. We'll go with seafood.
Sure. So this is a very seafood-y topic.
Why don't I do just the talking points and then we'll open it up to discussion.
I'm sure you'll have some thoughts. You're just like reacting? Oh, I, oh, I know about it.
The original article is from the Verge, also CNBC.
Basically, this has been reported on Wicked, originally a Broadway musical, by the way,
excellent, so good, is getting a theatrical release on November 22nd.
Toy company Mattel released a variety of dolls and other toys, which, pun intended,
were for purchase in stores and online retailers.
On the packaging was a link to a website, www.
Please don't go there right now, especially not at work or if you're in a family setting.
Well, you know what? I'll just say this, www.thenameoftheshow.com.
I'm just going to not say it, which led to not, not the show.
Well, it's a show of sorts. The different show. That seafood show.
Don't link it in chat, Mike. Stop it, you guys.
I've got it on my third monitor. Stop!
To be fair, I did fact check this at work, so sorry, Luke.
I was joking. Wait, did you, Ashley? No, of course not.
I'm on psycho. Okay. So the link was...
I'm going to check. I will not.
The intended link! Shut up, shut up, shut up.
The intended link was www.wickedmovie.com.
So that one we can check. Okay?
We're going to go... Don't share the screen, just in case. We're going to go to www.wickedmovie.com and hopefully nothing bad will happen.
Okay, we're good. All right. Okay, www.wickedmovie.com, November 22nd, everything is okay and we're still live on
Twitch.
Mattel has since apologized for this and removed the toys from online storefronts.
Quote, parents are advised that the misprinted incorrect website is not appropriate for children
or Elijah. Sorry, I added the last bit.
However, the removal of the toys didn't stop scalpers from trying to buy what remained
on physical shelves, flipping the original misprint for as much as $2,100.
To be fair, I don't know if any sold yet.
Let's open up. Let's open up for discussion here.
Our first discussion question is, do you think this type of thing happens often in media
and we just don't hear about it necessarily, e.g. phone numbers, addresses, or other placeholder
info or supposedly fake info?
Do you think this happens all the time? I actually put a note in there.
This happened in one of our videos where we had put a placeholder or something.
Is this the encyclopedia knowledge thing or were you a part of it? I was a part of it and it became a big thing after.
What was this? I'm not going to say the exact video because I don't want people to try to go back and find
it or whatever, but there was an address in a video that we had put that was supposed
to be fake. Like a one, two, three, four fake street except fake street is an actual thing.
It ended up being a real place and we didn't realize it until a day later because someone
had left a comment. It was one comment on the video.
No one else had decided to go check this and we did check it, but we must have either
misspelled it or got it wrong or something. But then all of a sudden I get a message that said, is this an issue?
And I was like, probably.
It was some random address. We got to just use 1600 Pennsylvania, the White House address.
My official address on Netflix is still the White House.
Really? I wouldn't be surprised if they mail pamphlet things addressed to me at the White House every
once in a while. And the thing is, I haven't only done that on Netflix.
There's some sites that will automatically block it if they see that, but that's been
on a bunch of sites. So they almost certainly have mail.
Speaking of the White House, that's another famous example of the importance of top-level
domains. Oh, yeah. Do you not know about this one?
It's WhiteHouse.gov. Yeah. That's the right one.
Yeah. Don't go to any other TLD.
Someone linked it. Is it bad? Oh, yeah.
Please remove it. It wasn't. They said it used to be.
Yeah, it used to be. It used to be. You're getting close.
Oh, there's a lot of them out there. Well, seafood's very popular.
Most of the internet is seafood. I hear the fourth most visited website is a seafood website.
Is it? It's in the top 10. I know it peaked at four at one point.
That's a little surprising. Probably during COVID. TGA Friday is unlimited shrimp.
And I know in the top 20, there's like three or four. That would be a really interesting dive, actually.
What happened to the internet during COVID? How did people change how they used the internet when they were all stuck at home?
There is an amazing graph. We have a whole series. We could call it divers and look into the things that happened on the internet.
Seafood divers. Seafood friends. There's an amazing graph for Twitch when COVID happened on Twitch.
It's like, oh, yeah, we're slowly growing. And then April, like just like it doubled.
It was insane. Yeah. But yeah, do you think this happens in any other media, though?
Can you think of any other examples? Absolutely.
I've heard of this type of thing happening before, but I don't have examples off the
top of my head. I don't know if this one is true, but apparently there was a tip line that the US military
published and it was accidentally like a pay per minute phone line.
I have not validated that, but it wouldn't really surprise me that much because a lot
of those high priced like 1-800 like paid numbers were that.
So if you were to accidentally typo it, it would be pretty easy for it to be one of those.
Okay. And then going into question two, though, what do you think, how long do people have
to hold onto these domains or phone numbers? Yeah.
So that was my discussion question that I put in because in some cases it can be a situation
where you publish printed materials.
So whether it's on a package for a product or whether it's on a pamphlet or whether it's
on, who knows, a sticker. Like it doesn't matter.
I come across all the time, whenever we look at anything retro, like games, for example.
The Nintendo helplines. Yeah. They'll have help support lines.
They'll have websites. How long is the statute of limitations for having to keep paying for that domain?
I mean, not every website can be freaking space jam.com.
Okay. Space jam. Uh-oh.
Uh-oh. What's going to load? Is this the White House?
No way. You told me to not go to it. You went to it?
No. Yeah. I said not to.
I said I went to .org. Oh. Space jam is.
Space jam.com is down. Can we buy it?
No way. They tried to redirect me to space jam new legacy, like the new one.
I didn't know that space jam.com was down.
You got to go to space jam.com slash 1996. Oh, that sucks.
It does kind of suck. Because do they do a new movie or something?
Yeah, they did. Yeah. Yeah.
Apparently it was like not very good, but like realistically was the original one really good.
I don't know. Yes. I didn't rewatch it.
Wrong. In my nostalgia glasses, it's good. Don't worry, Luke.
I rewatch it just in case it's actually garbage. Honestly, I don't even know. I don't think I've seen the whole first one.
It's great. I've seen bits of it. It hasn't held up in my opinion.
Yeah. All right. So yeah, so how long should they be responsible for continuing to pay the renewal fees for
a domain? Would you have to just like pay up front for that whole time or something to like prove
that you're actually going to do it? Because you can buy 100-year domains, right?
Like I understand it's expensive and especially if you're getting like, I don't know, x.com
because that's going to cost a million dollars or whatever.
But at that point, if you're launching some big product and getting a new domain name
for it, you should buy 100 years. Sure. But why should you have to do that?
We don't. I don't even... Yeah, we don't.
We have... We've had domains like I think... Do we still have...
Hold on. Oh yeah, we apparently still have this.
When I was doing an eval, I had so many questions about that domain.
This is f***ingyourwallet.com, which we included in one of our videos ages ago as...
So many questions. Oh, whoops. Hold on.
Did I? What just happened? Okay.
Yeah, there we go. Okay, it's working now. So this was included in one of our videos like a bazillion years ago and it's just a simple
little game where you dodge the expensive products.
There's Razer laptops. Hey, why does the money spent go up even if you don't touch the product?
I don't know, you're just spending money because... We live in a society. Yeah, f*** your wallet, right?
Okay, so it's like rent and... Yeah, so it's Razer laptops, iPhones, and red cameras that just come flying out of nowhere
and you have to try to dodge them. It's genuinely really hard. Oh, it's super hard.
It's easier on a bigger screen. I was gonna say you're also on a trackpad. And I'm on a trackpad.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But some of them come in... Yeah, no, those red cameras come in hot, brother.
They come in real hot.
And I think the red cameras target you so you have to be constantly moving if you want
to dodge. Oh, no, no, no.
Oh, god. So this is a question that I legitimately have.
How long do I have to keep paying for this stupid domain because we made a video with
this joke in it? These are iPhone 7s or something.
This is from like seven years ago. We should make a mirror of lttstore.com where everything's just like 10 times the price
and then just redirect that to it. See if anyone buys anything.
Can we perform both? Well, you can keep avoiding the domain going forward because if someone...
But that would help cover our old domains.
And there's lots of domains that we've bought over the years because we've like, I don't
know, thought... Like, did we buy makeupforbros.com?
I think so. I think we might have bought that at some point because I thought it'd be like a cool channel
idea like 12 years ago, like men's makeup tips and stuff because men's makeup was
totally becoming a thing. We bought adequate...
Adequate video service? Yeah. We bought adquatevideoservice.com.
I remember some videos where you jokingly said a URL and then at the end of the video,
I hear you go, please go buy that right now. And then I went to it and it just redirects to lttstore.
So like every time you crack a joke and I think part of it also though... We've let some of those go over the years.
Sure. But I think part of it also though is like, if you do say that or claim it and then people
who trust you are trying to go to them, in the case wicked...
You don't want it to... Be malicious. You don't want it to go to something else.
You also don't want someone to be able to get it and then set up a site that looks like yours.
Yeah. That's one of the reasons that we've stopped meming on like coming up with domain names
on the show. We used to all the time. Because people would buy them and it became like a thing and they would redirect them
to lttstore or to the forum or whatever. The thing that we would say that it did that.
Yeah. And then conceivably, I don't think anyone ever did this.
Not that I'm aware of, but conceivably, after we talk about it, they could...
I know of a singular bad example. You do. Okay.
So they could take that domain and they could use it to harvest data.
They could redirect it to somewhere malicious.
And we would be...
We would feel bad about it. Whether we're responsible for that or not, I don't know, I'm not a lawyer and you're
not a cop. So who knows, but I'd feel hurt in my feelingsies, so we don't do that anymore.
Someone just said, adequatevideoservice.com should redirect to fullpoint.
It does. That one we own, so it's fine.
I don't think we're going to get rid of that one because I keep telling Luke that I've
wanted it for years to be something that if people dug deep enough into Float Plains
sort of workings, they could find it. Does it actually run any services right now?
I don't remember this. I think at one point, we thought about it. I don't remember if we actually did it or not.
Okay, I still want it to. That's Float Plain, adequatevideoservice.
That's a whole joke, but it checks out.
Oh, cool. Okay. Is this you wanting to leave?
I don't know if I'm supposed to... This is... I feel like I'm like Elijah's dad.
He's trying to get off the phone. I don't want to overstay my welcome. I'll stay here all day if you guys need me to.
I just don't want to overstay my welcome. Sounds good.
I had to change because of him. We were in the exact same clothes.
Oh. Oh, wow. Really?
You got a red sweater? And we both had the cargo pants. Oh, wow.
What sweater are you wearing? The... Oh.
I actually don't know the name. Really? I just got given to me.
Okay. What do you want, Elijah? It's like a...
What's on the front of it? A plant. A tree.
Okay. And what's it made of?
Wires. Okay. Try again.
Try again. Cables. Try again.
Both technically correct. Thanks, Dan. It starts with a C.
Cables. It starts with a C-I.
It starts with a K. It does not.
Circuit. There you go. So it's a what?
Yeah. It's a tree that's made of circuits.
Okay. Try it in the other order. It's a circuit that's made to look like a tree.
Okay. Now shorten it. It's a circuit that looks like a tree.
Reduce more. Circuit tree.
That's so good. It's good.
So yeah, we were accidental twins today.
We even are both wearing black shoes with white soles.
Oh, yeah. I can't get my leg that high. Yeah, which is why I don't let him do backflips.
Oh my God. I can do a backflip.
I believe you. I don't wish for you to show me.
No, I don't want you to show me. Okay. That's on the under table camera.
Thanks a lot. Okay, bye. Bye.
It was a pleasure. Where do I put this? Just on the ground.
Floor. Matt Mann says OMG Elijah. I wanted to believe he was being deliberately obtuse.
I don't know. Sometimes the brain just doesn't do stuff.
Muted? Who's muted? You were muted, but now you're not.
He's acute. Aw. Aw.
Okay, get out of here. I'm reporting that to you. Go watch your fight.
I'm reporting that to you. Oh, no.
Small angle. All right. Want a 1v1 me?
Check your wallet.com. Oh, wow.
Dan, do you want to set a timer? Yeah, sure.
I wonder if I still... I feel like this is going to be really hard on trackpad.
I wonder if I still have that timer for the wheel of paint.
Okay, no, hold on. We'll have to start at the same time. But yeah, you can warm up.
Get warmed up. Get warmed up. Can I do this as an overlay?
Okay, we're doing this thing. Oh, no. Oh, no.
It starts to go up the rails so fast. Oh. Okay, one minute timer.
Oh, dude. He's got it. Look at it.
Look at it go. Is that a one minute timer? It's a two minute timer.
Something. Okay. You could just time it on your phone.
Are you ready? Okay, so we'll press F5 to start. Yeah.
Can you show our screens? Do you have that power? Of course.
Tough. What camera are you on right now?
You could also just switch between us. And then we go layers.
There we go. Dude, if you just stand in one spot, you spend a lot of money.
Yeah. The reds, man. The reds.
The reds are pretty, they're pretty brutal. They, they're going to get you.
Those reds, they add up real fast.
Okay. That looks good enough to me.
It's so hard on the trackpad. Oh.
This guy, he's such a sweaty gamer, but he has to wipe his hands off before he plays.
Yeah. Literal sweaty gamers.
Yeah. All right. Let's do this thing.
I hadn't, I hadn't thought about this site in so long.
What's hosting it? I don't know.
I mean, you tell me. I think this is like way pre the infer team.
It's probably on like some Jake thing. You think so?
Probably. Well, that actually kind of makes sense.
That's hilarious. Well, who even made this game? I have no idea.
I don't remember anymore. I don't think it was my group.
Are you sure? I immediately started questioning that in my head when it came up on screen, but I don't.
I actually, I actually don't remember this was so long ago.
Some Jake thing. Ouch. That's not an Ouch.
Yeah. He just has a lot of different things. I can't really like define it.
Yeah. Who can keep track of it? Okay.
Dan, that's, that's good enough. I'm on your phone. It's fine.
No, you just have to call it and then it counts down. Oh, brilliant. It's a countdown.
Okay. That's what you wanted, right? Yeah.
Brilliant. Okay. Ready?
Yeah. Yeah. Three, two, one, F5.
Here we go. Here we go. Here.
Oh God. Oh God. I got hit by two reds already, dude.
I am like done. I don't think I can, I will never financially recover from this.
You can't, you can't hang out at the edges. You can't, oh, I got hit by another red.
I'm dodging. I'm dipping. I'm weaving.
I'm trying. I'm making, oh no.
Oh my God. Look guys, this is way, way harder than, oh shoot.
It's way harder than it looks. I think I was doing better before I was competing.
No, no. Okay. Hold on.
20 seconds. Oh crap. That's so long.
No. Okay. You're crushing me.
Oh my God. Two more iPhones. 10 seconds.
Two more iPhones. Another razor blade. Oh, oh, oh my goodness.
I had three. Five, four, three. Three red cameras come for me.
Two, one. Oh. And the winners look.
$300,000 spent to Linus's 930,000.
I got hit by so many red cameras.
All right. You can get rid of that.
That's going to take like half an hour, sorry. GG.
Oh yeah. That makes sense. Okay.
I'm going to just, yeah, cool. There we go.
Now I can close that. What are we supposed to be talking about?
Let's talk about announcements. What even is this show? I can't even tell anymore.
It doesn't matter, does it? It was less than 50K for so long.
Yeah. I was killing it for a while and then I started getting smacked.
Those red cameras, dude, they come out of nowhere. Those are so brutal.
They're so fast and they crank your score up so much.
Anyways. GG. GG, brother.
GG indeed. Yeah. We're doing announcements.
Yeah. Let's do it. Did you just call them merch messages?
Oh, we're doing merch messages. We're doing merch messages.
All right. Okay. Explain merch messages.
Here's a question before we do that. Do we get a new name for it?
What? I'm not even part of that team.
I'm kind of tired of it being called merch.
That makes sense. What do you call bonus bin items?
Oh yeah. What do you guys call the bonus bin items again?
That's an internal name. We don't need to talk about that. No.
It's something totally stupid. I want the merch messages named like that.
The free item upsell or something. Free upsell. It's the fuss.
The free upsell shelf. That's an internal name. Okay.
I want merch messages to sound like that.
Oh man. Yeah. Okay.
So what are other competing products? Free upsell message.
You've got super chats. That's what YouTube calls them. You've got Twitch bits or cheers.
They've got like a billion different ways you can throw money at the stream on Twitch.
Additional live order comment.
What is that? ALOC. ALOC.
See? Yeah. That's really not rolling off the tongue, Dan.
Yeah. That was the point. Money talks.
Money talks. Money talks. Yeah.
It's not bad. Super bits.
Parasocial message. Parasocial message is pretty funny.
Super bits. It's pretty funny. Send me a PM.
Which one of you is going to sue us? We took half of both of you.
Okay. Totally changing the subject.
Why did we stop calling them PMs?
Why are they DMs? Because they aren't always direct one to one,
but they're always private.
What the fuck? I don't understand it.
Group chats. I'm a boomer. I still call them PMs pretty often.
No. You're converted. No.
I was just thinking about it too much. PMs pretty often. I think sometimes it also...
Look and mute it again. I need to fix something. What's going on?
I don't know. Okay. Well, whatever.
It matters on the context. Like NVIDIA games, I still call them whispers.
Right. Cool.
Apparently it's fixed now. But like, I bet you if I was on Twitter,
I would call it a DM because everyone calls it DMs on Twitter.
Yeah. And you'd never say like slide into your PMs.
That's a little weird. Yeah. It sounds like slide into your night,
which I mean realistically is probably a similar intent.
Might be the same deal. Yeah. But like I feel like if you're on the forum,
you call it private messages. PM.
Yeah. If you're on Twitter, you call it DMs. Well, that's stupid.
If you're in a video game, you call it whispers. Functionally, they're all the same thing. Pretty much.
Anyway. Except whispers.
Handy daily deliverables, HDD.
The acronym is good, but so handy. Yeah.
The alliteration of merge messages is really good.
I mean, okay, would it satisfy you if we just changed it to merchandise messages?
Like I, because merch is just short for merchandise.
How about purge messages? I'm tired of the like purge messages.
Yeah, like purchase. Cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap.
So affordable. Now there are other PMs. Purse.
T-E-R-C-H. Yeah. Send us a PM, a purge message.
I don't know. I am forever calling them additional live purchase comments.
I keep reading threads where someone's like, oh, I like, I bought the screwdriver and it's like the best screwdriver
I've ever used and I'm totally converted. So surprised considering it's YouTuber merch.
And I'm just like, ah. Yeah.
I know. It's painful because that's for a lot of people,
the foot that we have in the door. Yes.
To get them to try it. I am.
Instead of it just being a good product. Yeah.
they'll say in the same grouping of texts,
they'll say like, this is the best one ever
and it's good for being a merch product. And those things sound so different.
They're separate. They are really very different things.
I don't know. I bet it wouldn't even take me that long to find,
to find a comment like that. Like that.
Yeah. They're all over the place. Because I don't necessarily think that people understand
what the takeaway from that is for like us.
You know what I mean? I don't know. I think I'm just kind of over it at this point.
I mean, I know I'm not like I get it,
but I also just swag chats.
Swag is worse in this context. Oh yeah.
Swag stuff we all get means just like garbage Ali express
stuff that is rebranded. It's a lot worse.
We can leave it. It's just, I don't know.
I just I want creator warehouse to be able to break out of the
the bubble that they get put in with a lot of other creator
merch. Well, what's really frustrating for me is that if they don't
belong there, if more people used creator warehouse,
then more merch would be merchandise instead of being
merch.
But I mean, realistically, I say that we have to open the
doors. We don't really have the capacity to take on other
creators anyway. Like we still have. We still have a lot to learn.
Some of them want it. I know. Real bad.
I know poor Luke. Every time he tries to pitch Floatplane to a creator,
they're like, okay, neat. But by the way, what about that other thing you guys do?
Yeah. Can I get in on that? And it's like, um, I think that the, and I also just, I think
the creator warehouse model is inherently incompatible with a
lot of creators because it's not merch.
I don't know if I had this conversation with you, but the most recent one that we had that conversation with, which
they, they're theoretically joining full plane as well, but they are also having this conversation.
I, I tried to like talk them down actively this time.
I was like, I wonder what that will be. So I started going over like all the, the, I don't know if I
want to say downsides, all the difficulties of doing it the
way that we do. Yeah. Where you have to like hold inventory and pay for things
upfront with no net terms and like all, it's a hyper risky.
Oh no. I totally understand. Want to do it that way.
Sounds good. No problem. And throughout a number of like, yeah, I expect like getting
inventory for this stuff would like cost about this amount. And I was like, wow, yep.
That sounds probably about accurate, including like R and D
involved and everything else. It's like, okay.
This is a, I think a really positive example of a similar
thing. I've been looking for a screwdriver like this one for
years. I don't care about this being a YouTuber product.
It's something special. Do yourself a favor and pick up one or two.
Yeah. Like I don't, I don't mind it in that context.
I do agree. Yeah. But there's absolutely ones like you said.
Usually like that. I think. That's okay.
That's okay. I mean, yeah. I, with how long?
Shop talk. Shop talk? Oh.
Shop talk. No.
That has a super negative connotation. I think so.
It's sound, the flow is good. And as much as like, you know, I never shy away from an
innuendo, like our verified actual gamer program, your
brand from like saying, saying, yeah.
You have to, you have to say the full name verified
actual gamer program. Shop talk. Shop talk.
Yeah. Well, it's like locker room talk. Like.
Oh. Yeah. Like it, the, the like.
Is that a bad thing? Just the boys, you know, kind of.
Yeah. I think it, I think it has a pretty, I think it has kind of
a toxic connotation personally. I'm probably just disconnected from this. I don't know.
Yeah. I've never heard of it. Just go dumb with it and call them pee pee poo poos.
I mean, honestly. Purchase PMs, you know, PPs.
All right. I got a big pee pee here from, you know, maybe not.
Purchase merch.
No, it can't say merch. Oh, right.
Right. Right. Right.
Right. Right. Additional live purchase comment.
We're not doing that, Dan.
I'm so down replacing all the coffee with pee pee poo poos now.
Why is my dashboard changing?
The reply button just says poop.
Man, I love, I love no JS.
Okay. Reply and then you, you pee it for us to reply.
I see here. Show it. I see here, people here saying, uh, talking shop means
something else entirely. Yeah. I'm em, like, where 89.
That's totally fine. That's totally fine. I mean, other than that, people, like, often don't like it because
you're supposed to be in a social context and you're talking
shop. Like, that's, that's usually the context that I hear that in.
Can we not talk shop right now? Like talking about the city side of it.
Yeah. Yeah. That's talking shop.
Which never bothers me. But, um, yeah, I know, don't like their jobs.
Luke, it's, my job is my whole life. So I literally that's why it doesn't bother. I don't really turn off
So have other things to talk to people about and realistically because of my job
It's usually what people want to talk to me about anyway. So what is the point of me even like do people want to hear about my cats?
I mean some do but like tone down the parasocial relationship
I like a lot of people ask about my birds too. Yeah, yeah, that's true
And I don't actually have a problem with that. I like talking about my cats
But I just mean usually when I run into someone at a social function, they're like, okay
Who's dad or you like, you know, which which sniveling, you know, snot-nosed crying creature, you know
belongs to you know came out of or or into, you know, your various
Guy or lady parts, right? Like it's it's basically which critters yours essentially
and and then they're like, okay. Yeah, so like what do you do and I'm like, oh, I I
Usually I try to not I try to say it. I work in media or I take I make videos
Yeah, okay, that's more true for you than it is for me I try to give a true answer that doesn't sort of I make them pry on paper only sort of oh, what do you mean?
Then I'll be like, oh, okay. I make YouTube videos and then I'm pretty sure you're still actually a CEO
Yeah, technically I Might technically still be more than one CEO. I'm not sure
Because don't don't forget about all the companies that like are not like the normal companies
Okay, but you're a CEO of a company that has employees. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah
Yeah, I'm technically still the CEO of Floatplane, but that is such horse shit
So I remember when you told me one day that it was gonna be me and I was like, yeah, sure
I mean look if you want the promotion go talk to my boss
No, it's fine. I don't really care. I just do all the things pretty much
Pretty much Call them product placements
Hmm, that's kind of interesting because they buy a product they place their message product placements. Yeah, that's not bad
I always like alliteration Yeah
Is super on brand I think I was talking to somebody else about that today because I'm deploying this thing
But it's for production and it's going into production So it's the production production and then we have LTX expo, which is the Linus tech expo expo
And we have whale land we hosted a land event land event. Yeah, the whale land event. It's pretty good, too, right?
So this one's pretty good to RAM. Yeah, random audience message. That's the one I just reacted to that's not bad
That's pretty good. I kind of like that one. You can say rammy dad and then and then we could stop letting we could stop
All right, I think that's enough show for me for today
It's been a really nice
Had a great week After he says that I've enjoyed go off camera to where he is also off camera
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When are we starting when are we starting only planes calm it?
Not today because we have to ban people making those links
I'm not blushing. I think we do only planes. I don't remember. I'm pretty sure we own only
We probably did but don't go check. Yeah, don't check. Oh
My goodness
Just blurred it out. It was so bad. Yeah, I didn't have time for my brain to think about that
Sorry, that's sometimes a lot of the best. I'll calm down soon. Yeah, okay get through some peepies
We apparently do not own only planes. So okay
I think that was because we decided we were gonna call it something else. Oh, yeah, that's right
Because it's kind of a terrible name. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it makes absolutely no sense. Not at all. Yeah
What are we supposed to be talking about right now? You're supposed to explain
Right, yeah, and then we read what? Merch messages are the way to interact with the show
Actually, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna call them product purchases or product product check out chat
I like check out chats a lot. Oh, check out
And Conrad coined it. I'm sold It's almost like having, you know, people who you pay and who are smart and who let me do things for a living
Highly technically confident is better than just listening to your audience. He also named it fuzz
That's a good name. Shut up free up self-shelf. Yeah, that's not as good. I mean, but I mean, that's that's an internal name
Yeah, you only Endless defender of internal names being basically whatever you want as long as you can differentiate between what the things are and fuss has
Always been very clear on for our team. So it's been fine. It's not clear. It's gonna stay far. So dumb
It's never okay. Check out chats. Okay. Check out chats
So if you want to send a check out chat, all you've got to do is
Go to LTT Store comm so instead of doing super chats or
Twitch bits or anything like that where you throw money at your screen you get nothing in return. We have checkout chats
So you go to LTT Store comm add something to your cart. Oh cart chats, maybe I don't know
And the point is it's in the cart not the checkout, which is part of the checkout
Doesn't matter the point is the checkout process when we're live There'll be a box in the cart you fill that out and it'll go to
Producer Dan, I still like check out chats better It'll go to producer Dan who will pop it down there
Like if you have a shout out for your mom or you know, your brother or whatever if it's your birthday something cool like that
Dan will forward it to someone internal who can answer your questions Sometimes Dan will answer questions himself and other times he will curate your check out chats
Wandsworths It's not always Wancho
Sometimes he will curate your check out chats and he will give them to us so that I can say RAM me Dan and
And he will I
People are saying that we should we should keep the out in the acronym
Check out chats. Mmm. Okay
Why oh stop? I'm saying people are saying that I'm not I'm not I'm not saying that myself
The the some of the the people have been saying that and then if we have like a checkout chat counter
Then we could spell it with a K. Yes, like is that is that really where you go?
I'm not me. Should I just not me should I just stop leaving any ambiguity here? We're gonna call them
Dan me
I've had a lot of practice over the last year, so yeah
All right, I've got an additional live purchase comment also known as a checkout chat also known as a merch message here from Thomas
Sorry, no, not from Thomas somebody else. Hello, Dan and the photon reflectors
I used your AI support bot last week was that in response to this secret shopper video or in the works longer kudos for
Including I need a person escape hatch
That's a that's a dashboard thing from them, but I think it was in the works for a lot longer. I had heard about it
Yeah, way long time ago. Basically, I think if you go back to the WAN Show where chat GPT
Like went public beta or whatever I think we probably talked about like
Support chat bots being becoming way better and we probably like talked about it on that show or shortly after that
Yeah, I think they had been kind of riffing on the idea for a while
I'm 99% sure and that's that's just the creative warehouse team working with
Their their customer support tool provider. Yeah
Yeah And how about it?
What are there really that? Dan are there really? No, I just have a backlog today. Okay. There's still like 30 an income. He's been busy ramming
There's been a lot of interruptions, but I got some more here
Do you want another one? Yeah, okay. I mean, I don't know. Hey Wanda DLL. Is it likely that the commuter back not too tired?
No, no, I I can go all night. Just get some water. I'm used to doing this for six hours, you know, this is easy
Hey, hey, wait
Hey, why not DLL is it likely that the commuter back pack will launch before?
Christmas likely I hardly know her
That doesn't matter
I think the hope is to launch it before the end of the year
But I think the odds of you getting one before Christmas are basically zero
That's that's what I'll that's what I'll say with confidence launch a little bit too late for shipping to be able to line up
I think so it might even be launching after Christmas
No, it's dude. Do you have any idea how long production and shipping takes? I don't care. I just want it
I know I don't think I don't think that way. This is the whole on it
Look, this is the whole thing where our model like doesn't work for creator merch because we're just if something goes out of stock
If we gap out on something we're out of it for like four months
We don't we're not just buying fruit of the loom t-shirts from some local distribution warehouse like we we make stuff
the worst part of this is that I I was like I feel like I have a dealer and
Now I'm in like forms of withdrawal
Because now I only have two shirts first hit was free and now I put on any other shirt at all
And I'm just like wow. This is notably inadequate
Where is my proper shirt, but then doing laundry like literally every day because I only have one short sleeve
I don't want to wear long sleeves every other day. So doing laundry literally every day for a shirt gets a little nuts
By the way before any of you try to solve his problem. Oh and send him a shirt. I
Thank you so much for the thought I appreciate the gesture the person who was very kind who bought some of our tall shirts
Packaged them back up from overseas and sent them back to Luke overseas shipping and everything
Unfortunately, they were not Luke size and also you don't have to do that. He gets as much merch as he wants. Yeah, it's fine
Did you send them back? I haven't yet, but I will be okay. Yeah
Super nice thought, but don't do that. He's he's just whining. I appreciate the concern
He doesn't actually want anyone to solve his problem I have a type
I'm trying to hype the shirts up because I want them to keep doing well because I have a personal vested interest in
The tall shirts doing well because if the tall shirts doing well, there's a higher chance that we'll do more colors
So like I want to keep kind of reminding people that they exist and they're awesome
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's good for me. Yeah, we're on it. We're on it
And I think genuinely a lot of people that don't really fit in normal shirts very well
Don't even necessarily know that there's like an alternative. Yeah, it's like having their belly poke out every time they lift up their arms
Honestly, yeah, so yeah, um, all right, should we announce man? Yeah, should we do announcements finally?
Yeah, let's do that announcing Black Friday Cyber Monday 9,000
It's our big freakin Black Friday and Cyber Monday event
Not only are we gonna have some big freakin deals on some of our most popular products that are gonna be happening all week
I heard that LTT Store is working with some of our partners to deliver some big
Freakin bundles that will include some really cool tech. Okay. I found out about one of these bundles
literally on set earlier as I was doing the read for it and I
Kid you not. I didn't fake this I'm not that good of an actor. I was like, is that right?
because it is an absolutely
Smoking deal that I had a colleague. I had a colleague back at NCIX that used to refer
Refer to deals of this magnitude is hot It is a shit hot deal. I
That brought back weird memories. I feel like I heard this phrase. Anyway, I don't know who was
There will also be flash deals that are gonna be happening throughout the week popping up at random times
So if you've been eyeing anything on the store, I implore you to head to LMG. GG slash
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Some of them are that good. You are not going to want to miss them
The branding is also sick if I yeah, that's actually myself. This looks looks pretty metal
It looks awesome. If you scroll down, they have that scroll all the way down the biggest freaking deals
I get it. Sorry. Sorry. I'm going. I'm going. What? What? No, we can't go that fast loop
We're trying to promote this. Yeah, but there's a funny line. These are examples of things that we might have deals on, okay?
Big freaking deals happening throughout the entire week moments notice
You'll want to be signed up for multi bit ratcheting screwdriver scribe driver magnetic cable management big freaking bundles
Is that a keyboard one of the question is pretty obvious what particular product it is?
What this one the middle one? I actually don't know what that is really? Oh
Any who this is cute. Yeah, that's what I was trying to get you described. Yeah, big freaking deals
So guys make sure you sign up I'm actually serious right now
I'm talking to you as a parasocial friend not as a as a shyster trying to sell you
Yeah Sign up because you will actually be kicking yourself if you miss some of these there's some there's some really really good deals coming
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That's actually that's actually good job. That's yeah, that's smart probably already. I think that seems like an arty move
And then finally we have a November Floatplane early access drop
We have another early access release. It is our smash champs badminton slash land hall
audio update vlog Featuring the one and only mr. Dan
All right, that's me. Oh, is it obvious from this thumbnail that the uh, your car looks the car's being towed away
No, and your car looks dirty Um, is your window open?
Yes, the window is open. Did they really in the rain? Did they really when they did the toe?
I wasn't there for the towing stuff. Did they did they really the window open in the rain
Uh, okay. Hmm. We uh, oh shoot. Okay. Um
Anyway, uh, okay. Anyway, it's um
Yeah, it's uh, it's a me and me and Dan video and Dan talks about the cool pa system that uh
That we implemented in in the land center slash badminton center
And it's going to be really useful for both lands and badminton
So i'm pretty pretty excited and it's it's it's cooler tech than it sounds like
All right, is this movie magic? You didn't even see it happen. You didn't see it get towed
I did see it get towed, but not when I was filming that shot. Oh
Yeah Because that would have been like Kind of a hassle because it was like out on the street and the audio is terrible and stuff. Yeah, that's the whole thing
Uh, but yeah, no, I was I was there when they told it. It's pretty funny
Sorry, sorry. I was there. I saw the tow truck pull in
But then I was like having a meeting or something they not actually like take it. They just like moved it for a shot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Um Okay, look it's a Dan
Remember that one time when you had to undo all of the audio stuff
And then redo it again and then undo it and then redo it again. Was that fun Dan? Where on earth was that?
Oh, that was like the first one week the first one we did last week. No for the all hands
Oh god I've blocked that out
That was so stressful You did an inside out too and just like boop
Just throw that into the void
No, that was brutal. Um, but it worked I guess
someone said, uh Scheister's a bad word just fyi. Is it? I'm not aware of it. Someone else posted the definition
It's considered a negative slang term that can be offensive and derogatory
But used to describe someone who's unethical dishonest or unscrupulous, especially in the practice of law politics or economics
For example, you might call a used car salesperson a scheister if they tell you a car is one price
But the fine print reveals a higher price like I'm not aware that it has any kind of like like racial or gender or like whatever
Um connotation so I was know that it does. Yeah, I don't I don't think so. I'm not that not that I'm aware of
I mean, there's always new There's always new words that
You know, I'm finding out for the first time have some kind of connotation like I had no idea that
You know the function like someone said it's anti-semite, but there's there's a there's a link on law.com
That I mean currently goes to a 404 page, but it says it's not. Yeah, it's not a 404 page anymore
I'm not I'm not aware of that
Being that so if it is I had no idea. I mean dude, there's there's at a certain point like
There's all kinds of stuff that I just I just like don't know like I okay
You know the the the main selling point of our screwdriver
I had no idea that that in the context of something that's like shoddily done
Had like a like a super can I say it? Maybe just don't but I had no idea that it had this like super racial undertones in certain contexts. Yeah
So I knew it. Yeah, okay We used that word here to describe
Like something that's kind of shoddy like shanty town and are like cobbled together
And then we we used it in a video at some point to describe something alex made
You know and people were like
Like really upset about No idea. It's so I don't know
I don't think I'm just getting old. Maybe it's a combination. Okay. I'll I'll concede that it might be a combination
But things just actually move too fast these days and there's too many words and too many things to keep track of
It's like actually difficult It is it is legitimately difficult. I I know at a certain point you gotta just I try my best. Yeah
Um, you gotta understand that not everyone's gonna know the like weird secret alternative hidden
Meaning of every single weird random word like I don't know some there's there's you gotta understand intention behind certain things, you know
I don't know. I think you're asking a lot. I think so, but it still like needs to and I'm asking a lot
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All right
Uh, all right sure we can all right Dan is that is that another RAM joke?
Muted oh you were if you want another RAM joke. He said we're a little behind
On topics. I don't know. You certainly aren't talking about mine. I'll tell you that much
Oh
My god
More topics Sure, uh, yeah, let's get us out of here at the sony employees talking about that one sure
Sony employees allegedly selling personal data of users
In a recent 23 minute instagram video Guinness record holding trophy hunter
Hakum Has claimed that his user data was sold on telegrams black market by sony employees. Hakum has over
207,000 trophies including 7,311 platinums
Wow Here i'm gonna read it verbatim. These are not my words dumb ps fanboy david
I think david actually wrote that so i just that's what i'm saying it
Has less than 3000 total trophies and three platinums for reference
Wow, whoa, so buddy has literally
Am i reading this correctly 7,311 platinums means i two thousand times the number of platinum trophies as dumb
PlayStation fanboy david yeah a little bit more
Is am i correct platinum means you you got every trophy for the game
I think they're just you know some of the harder trophies. Okay, um and a platinum trophy might also include
Get every other trophy. I'm sorry. I I I don't know because
Digital trophies for playing a game are not real awards
Hot take
I didn't say they're not fun, but games are meant to be fun and if it isn't fun then f*** it challenge can be fun
Sure I'm sorry i i i am
Oh boy
Should we just move on There are
More important. I feel that there are more important things
To feel a sense of achievement over are you being that reporter talking about the the tetris kid?
Maybe a little bit maybe a little bit, but um touch grass
That kid though seemed to kind of have his life together other than being really good at tetris, so
You don't know that hakum doesn't
No, no, i'm just speaking generally hakum might totally have his life together. Yeah, i'm just saying tetris kid
I wouldn't have said that about tetris kid because I think there was additional context that the reporter was ignoring like apparently
He had like good grades and like like it was was an active kid who was just really really really friggin good at tetris
So I don't know anyways the trouble started when his
Hakums PSN account or playstation network account got banned in september while trying to recover his account. He got messages with screenshots from a
good saudi guy What I think it's saudi, but sure saudi sure
Showing that hakum's personal data and playstation account info was being leaked on telegram
The same source also claimed that the accounts had acquired the info by bribing sony employees
Although most of the evidence in the video was blurred to protect hakum. That's probably good
It does include a screenshot of one of the offending seller accounts using an email with the official
polyphony polyphony polyphony
polyphony polyphony, I believe it's husband else the game with me the game studio
I don't know digital domain Maker of grand trismo. Okay, sure
He then started getting calls from one scammer using multiple numbers who claimed to be from sony's customer service
But would eventually ask for hakum's credit card number
Around the time he got answers from the real sony who claimed the original ban was due to suspicious activity on his account
such as having multiple playstation devices in different locations
Uh, it's possible he had people helping him get trophies. Oh, which is against the to s as well as popping
Platinum trophies after just seconds of gameplay. This is possible both by playing trophy farming games
What What or when auto popping by loading a 100 percent ps4 save into a ps5 game
Or a 100 save into the save game from a different region
What okay So, okay, can I go back to my point?
None of this is real None of this is going to get you girls
uh Really there might be one playstation trophies there might even be two
Tell you what some could say possibly three you go find them
I could go as far as this box right here next week
Someone might step up Someone might step up
A girl they might Who would be like?
Wow, you you you slide up next to her at the bar
What up? I got 7,311 platinums and playstation. Check my psn and she's like damn
Can I go back to your house to see them? Maybe really maybe really maybe
There's a lot of people out there. You don't know Someone in chat says it shows dedication
I'll let you continue
Where even was I after two weeks he was ghosty 26 says you won't cheat
Uh, well, I don't know because the the story is claiming that I mean on her because you've got no time
Because you're busy playing playstation. I mean, it's a pretty good argument. Um, after two weeks
He was informed his account would be reinstated after 45 days with strict
Uh censorship, but then there's a note here saying that I think he means monitoring which makes sense
Well plain chat is great. She'd be a platinum digger
You guys are great you guys are great. Why did I ever look at the other chats? Okay?
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Although he wasn't informed at the time. He had been taken off the press list
Don't know what that means. Uh, I wish there was uh more concrete or verifiable proof of the data leaker being a sony employee as
Uh I think this is Riley text in the dock. Yeah
As personally, I don't think the presented evidence is sufficient to be 100 damning definitely spooky though
And I mean, I would agree with that statement. Anyway, I mean the other part of this
This is just kind of one example of how your personal data is not really that safe. Um
We've seen other examples of this in the past. I mean, uh tesla employees famously were swapping
videos That were recorded on people's teslas. Um, if you put personal information on the internet, it's not safe
Well, I mean, yeah, but there's certain stuff that people
Have an expectation should be safe. Um, and another another example that was given was um, someone trying to and and I have no
Verification of this whatsoever. Uh, but someone trying to find out if someone was cheating on them and trying to find an employee
To give them access to the account to the email account by bribing them
um Conceivably there are reasons that certain departments within a company could have access to just about
Anything like any department that's in charge for example of monitoring for
um, child sexual abuse material csam
Could conceivably have access to just about any
dm or p.m. Or email or whatever the case may be
Uh
Pretty crazy by the way rest assured says f*** me in the ass messages
Tried to get him. What tried to get him out saving that you're a little a little bit too late. Dang it. Um, I'll get him someday
I'm gonna get him someday
All down his shirt. It's been a long time. I'm gonna but I don't want to bet against that. I'm gonna get him
Um Dan I just got that
Ah Go back to your show. I'm gonna leave now before I get beat to death
My goodness, uh There are discussion questions. Um
If 2fa wasn't a thing, do you think you could hack into other host's accounts and steal their info?
Um Hosts. Yes accounts. Like you mean like our like like our hosts who work here. I'm assuming he means this is a wancho comment
I'm assuming he means like us Oh, yes, um
Yeah, I mean pretty pretty easily honestly without 2fa like I have
For instance, I mean, am I allowed to use every tool at my disposal?
I may I think so because like I can access it's acquirable by
In fact, I think all three of us have access to the surveillance cameras
So all I would have to do is contrive some situation
Okay, set it up where I have you log into your account sitting like close enough to a camera
And I can just like see your password I'm not gonna go over all the reasons why but literally any account you have would be hilariously easy
Like
And like these ones and I have literally gained unauthorized access to luke's accounts before I made a
Joke do you remember that? When I literally logged into one of your accounts or one of your computers
I believe it fully and I was just like you were like, huh? And I was like, yeah, I like guessed your password
And you were like right the other day. I was making a joke about um
like Anyways, I was making a joke that the conclusion was that like someone would need to be able to access the stuff on my desktop
Um, and someone made the comment of like, how would we get in? I was like, blindness knows the password
So so yeah You already have it to like some of my stuff. Yeah, so it's it's one of those things where like
The the the easiest way into someone's account is is obviously social engineering
Yeah, and the better you know someone the more easily you can social engineer
Do you know how do you know how quickly and easily I could social engineer luke to type in like a dozen of his passwords
All I'd have to do is is go get an omg cable
Put a keyboard in front of them and be like
Okay Let's do like a typing challenge test. Yeah, but I don't want it to be random things
I don't want it to be random things. So like, okay, I'll tell you what just like lead the doc as it is
But like type your your most common like type your type your keeper password and type type this and type that
I'd probably sniff that out. That's a little bit. I could I could come up with something better than that
I could come up with something better than that, but like realistically if you have physical access to someone
I could just put an omg cable on his keyboard and then eventually I would find everything
Yeah, I mean it said hosts, right? So I mean these have a lot of like extensions and stuff
I'm sure you can hide something under the table for sure never really notice. Yeah for sure 100%
Yeah, that's why I was so confident of media like we have physical access to each other's computer
Yeah, so easy like it's over. I can see all of your cables from my desk. Yeah, right? Yeah, super easy. Yeah
It is what it is The next one is what can we do to protect our info against such vulnerabilities as bad actors within a corporation?
Not much Don't don't share passwords across sites try to try to like
Lower the the impact of the potential damage use use auto fill
Auto fill is better than typing in passwords because it closes the vulnerability to a keylogger or to an omg cable
It's still not perfect, but it helps a lot. It helps a ton. No, but it helps
Yeah, and uh record rucker says air gap. You can't air gap. Nothing is air gapped not really. Yeah
Well, I mean yes, but no, yeah, but yeah
Because there's ways to deal with things when they're air gapped as well
I I I've talked about this before people disagree with me. That's fine
I I hate that we use the term air gapped for things that aren't quite literally air gapped drives me nuts
There's a there's a company that makes uh network equipment actually pulls it out that like physically disconnects the port. It's pretty crazy. Um
over the management interface
And like I was like does this really need to exist and then I was like
yeah Depending on what the level of security that's required is
Yeah, I I I could I could I could see I could see an administrator being able to
literally Remotely disconnect any port. Yeah, I could see that having a huge value
The Anyways moving on We got more stuff. Yeah, what are we talking about? Um
An Intel AMD merger is an idea that was reportedly floated by the u.s. Commerce department
Our headline says it might be less outlandish than it seems
But um, I actually strongly disagree. I think it's I think it's pretty. Um
I think it's pretty outlandish. I also think that the rumors of Intel's demise are
um Have been grossly
Exaggerated over the last little while like I think it's more a very serious difficult to properly recover from trip
Not a fall. Yeah Intel is not Intel's not like
Going out of business tomorrow. Also my understanding of free coffee now
Yeah, also my understanding of the whole like x86 license
Is that actually? Oh, I don't know if Intel and AMD both agreed. Yeah, I guess there's no third party that would step in and say no
Also, just as consumers. We don't want this
having Literally only one x86 company. Also. I just don't see the synergies
Like AMD has their own designs their own jam
Their own drum that they're marching to right now They are they're a fabless company and they're they're killing it at that
And Intel for all of their challenges with it over the last few years is a fab company
And um, that is that is their competitive advantage if they can if they can regain it
Um, and I just I just don't I don't see what they would uh
I don't see what they would need from each other necessarily even
It is worth pointing out that this sort of thing has happened in the past. I think this is from the digitimes article
Lockheed and martin marietta were merged during the cold war a jp morgan chase acquired bair stearns in 2008
Um in 1968 the u.s. government encouraged pennsylvania railroad and new york central railroad to merge
um that I I don't I don't know if i'm convinced any of those things were better for consumers in any way
So let's not root for this. I guess would be
All I have to say about that, but um, generally less competition is bad
Yeah, there is immense endless proof of this. Yeah, you don't want consolidation
Yeah Cool
Nice speaking of uh highly consolidated uh companies
Integrated companies amazon is apparently taking on sheen and temu with a new sub 20 amazon hall
It's a mobile. Oh, it's mobile only. Okay. That completely kills
Like my plan for this for wancho the only reason this is in the dock is because I was like luke and I should shop
For lulls. What am I looking at? Is that a phone on a dock that is capturable by the stream?
I think I think Dan's away for a second, but I that's set up for something else, but I think we could
Oh, cool. Okay. Well. Yeah, anyway, I'd wanted us to or maybe that is set up for this
I'd wanted us to shop. Well Dan's not there luke. He's not there. Who are you talking to?
You're like looking past the camera at Dan. He's literally not there. You can see he's not there. Yeah
He's he's there in our hearts Um, anyway, I'll come back. I'll come back. Uh, it's so it's a mobile only shopping experience. Can we just call it?
Is mike is still on I just kicked it by accident. Oh, no, just because we can hear it doesn't mean
Yeah, okay. Okay. Uh, hey Dan. What's this phone for?
Oh, that's for a segment Oh, it's for hall. So it is for this. Oh sick. What a guy
No, that's cool. No, you're good. Okay. So we're gonna we're gonna shop. Do you have to do anything?
Double phone is this all right Watch me hack. Oh, there was there was some reason watch me hack into this phone Dan explained
And and hacked he's elite
He's in the Gibson elite hacks are uh, okay, cool. So does it have the does it have the shop on it?
Oh, I mean, but I I could have hacked it. I could have hacked it. I can hack it. Yeah, probably
Oh
Oh, that's cool Now it's uh, wait now it's a what now now it's a mouse. It's a mouse because I couldn't find the iPhone. Oh, we're using dex
Okay, yeah, luke's laptop. What's on what's supposed to happen to luke's lap? Oh, brilliant. That's
genius Okay, so you mean chrome or oh, oh, I understand. Oh, that's funky
Okay, hey, there we go. We're on mobile but also not mobile. Okay, so it's it's amazon halls
Uh amazon hall way to go Dan Okay, as modern retail points out hall is already inundated with misleading ai images on product pages
This program marks a strategic shift for amazon as it directly competes with platforms like sheen and temu in the cheap junk market
amazon halls focus on low-cost goods raises concerns about product quality sustainability and ethical sourcing
Yeah, I mean if those weren't already concerns for you on amazon
Um, I think a lot of people will say that they care about that And then they'll go to a website to buy something and be like that's expensive
And then go to something like sheen or temu or something like that and be like, oh, wow
I'm gonna buy that I suddenly don't care dude the number of people that virtue signal to me about all kinds of stuff
and then immediately you're gonna be like
$4 for a little mini broom. What a ripoff. I could get it for two. It's like, well, yeah
Anyway, uh luke laptop. It's it's important until it affects my wallet. Okay. So what are we what are we looking at here?
This is a little bit. I strain. Oh vision not gonna lie. Um Dan. How much do you know about about dex?
Is there uh, I don't know I couldn't like
Figure it out in time. Unfortunately. Um, okay. Well, what's this? Let's let's look at some stuff
This is mobile only which is why we're on dex. Really don't think it's a shoe luke
And it's probably designed for phones not for a 16 by none monitor. Yeah, I mean that makes sense
What was it? What was this product? It says it says below the picture
Did I just add this to cart? It says below the picture above the color selections
Above the what what are you talking about? Oh shoelaces
For athletic boot shoelaces for men and women one pair
Okay, well, where's the price?
Where's even the price for it? Is the price in the bottom right Dan? Are we are we covering the price?
I forgot. Yeah, maybe you are we requesting a desktop version of the site?
I don't know What have you done Dan? I don't know. I tried to get it together very quickly. You know what?
Good job Dan. Um, okay. Let's go. You have to rescind your a head pat as well. Yeah
Uh, okay, what's this? We got uh, we're like a RAM
Where's the price?
Uh, I can't see very well. I don't know. I don't know where the price is
What is this product? I think it's pants or are these are these other products? Yeah, these are just completely other different products
Weird you buy a Do you see any ai images yet? I mean, this is just badly photoshopped like that person is clearly not standing in that room
I was going to expect it to be better if it was an ai image Jordank said that you have to select one for a price. You have to select one. So go back up. I thought we did
But didn't I select one? Are we on a product page? Yeah, I'm on a product page right now. No, you got to select a variant
Oh, okay, this one What no, no, no, no, I figured it out. I figured it out this one. Okay double tap to zoom. Nope not necessary
This is a picture viewer. Almost certainly you need to go back. Yeah, go back. Oh
Okay And down just a little more. Yeah a little more there you go this. Oh, I have to pick a variant
I thought there was a size size. Oh my god
Okay, so a medium Okay, cool
Where's the price? Where's the where's the bloody price?
Down a bit more grass green more like a screen
Uh, did it say unavailable go back up? Oh
Up. Oh my goodness. Look at this guy's biceps rifts. Dang wake up
Dang, wait, how but how is his shoulder so small?
How can he have biceps this big and a shoulder like that? I don't always
Skip shoulder day. No, I don't I don't I don't buy it Egyptian cable lateral raises. Okay. What is this? No, those are awful
So free shipping on free shipping on 25 dollars
What am I even I feel like
I feel like we may need to just use the mobile app version of this. I'm gonna try to verify it
So wait, it's an app. I can't go to a website. It is only a website. It seems to be it's only a website
It's only a website. Okay. What is it called? But it's only mobile amazon hall. Yes
Is there a way to force is that is there a way to force the browser to open the mobile version?
I have absolutely no idea. Uh, you might be able to try the
um The kabob menu top right? I can't see it because of the two to three more topics thing. Oh, okay
So I can I can oh Hello
Sorry, okay, cool. So no, this is mobile site, but but we could call for desktop site
So i'm looking on these just amazon.com now looking on my phone too and I also do not see price
Yeah, this is just amazon actually identical
Okay, so what how do I do this the website just terrible
I don't understand what i'm looking at. It's in the amazon mobile app. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you can
Yeah, someone just said you can use web tools. I want to buy this true. Sorry. Let me buy it
Okay, I don't know how to get to the site even yeah, sorry. Where do you want me to go though? Like, what is the domain?
Uh, I don't know. It's just amazon.com search in amazon hall
How do where is that? What makes something amazon hall?
Uh, I don't know if you if you close this out the search bar is pre-filled with searching amazon hall
Uh-huh Wow, this is this is absolute chaos go back to the top. Okay, so i'm back here
See the search bar says search. Oh god. Sorry. There's a lot of gestures on this. Uh, try pad here
This is the worst. Oh my god Uh
What am I This is like watching my grandparents try to use a computer. This is this is horrible
And I can't there's nothing on here. So I can't like fix it on here and then go back to the other view
Yeah, oh wait, what? Oh, oh, I can't share mine. No. No. No. We got you. I got you just like give up on this
Good effort Dan Uh
Okay, here we go. Are we good? Well, I can't I don't know how to get there
Oh, well, wait, but you found it. Oh, I have mobile version on a desktop so I can more easily navigate. Okay
Um, okay, so now what I just don't I don't know where it is
Uh Yeah amazon home. Did you google amazon hall? Yeah google amazon hall. Oh, oh amazon.com slash
Hall slash store. Here we go. Here we go chat to the rescue
Guys, I'm so sorry. This must be incredibly hard to watch. Okay. Okay. Unbelievable finds. What do we want to do men's golf pants stretch?
Let's do it It's an unbelievable find luke
Okay, here we go Where's the price? Where's the price?
Free shipping on 25 dollars. Yeah, I've got it. Very selective if you keep scrolling down and just switch
It just loads things forever
I don't understand. Where's the price? See? Oh, there was apparently an error at the top of that. You need to be logged in? You have to log in
Okay, long story
But I do not have the 2fa for my amazon account
So I cannot log in was that taken away from you. No a bad boy. No, I just don't have it because evan has it
Okay. Yeah Well, we both use the same account. Yeah, only one of us has our phone number on it. So
There you go. I mean there's solutions to that. Yeah, but I don't care. Yeah, because like whatever
Fair enough. Fair enough. Who cares this amazon account? Uh, apparently it can use the whole app
But yeah, we're trying to show it to you guys. So we want to use the site. I could sign into it, but like
I don't really want to sign into my Yeah, I don't I don't blame you
um So cool kuiichi says you can borrow mine. Nice. Uh, you know what? I don't know if I care anymore
Yeah, cool Nice, I think I'm over it. Um, so amazon hauls everyone
Yay Thanks Dan
Um I thought when you had the whole rig, it was an app. Okay. No, that's why I had to do the whole rig because it's just a bloody website
But you can just request and anyways, whatever, it's fine
What? Okay, whatever. I only learned I learned about this 20 minutes before the show started
You know what? I'm just going to show people how it works because it is actually like that's probably a really good idea
Okay, do some learning for this traffic fire. Well, I didn't mean to do that
Okay, if you have 12 And then click on this little oh, I already did it
So if you have 12 and then there's oh, did you go hide the merch message at the top
There we go. This little button right here that shows like a laptop and a phone if you click on that you can get different
You know responsive design dimensions. So now it thinks I'm on a phone, right?
So you can view and experience Websites potentially your own website for your new development in different formats different screen sizes stuff like that
So you can you know, you don't have to own every single version of every single crazy stupid Android phone
Um, also, I just noticed this. What is that? I don't know, but it's cute. That's awesome. Oh
Anyways, that is actually like a cool fairly handy thing if you didn't know about that. It's kind of neat
All right, uh speaking of things we didn't know about we have talked a couple of times about the sydney island deer cull
On the WAN Show. Yeah, and I received an email
This long. Wow about our discussion. Apparently I was very wrong and misled. Um
Okay And I did click this link and I spent probably about an hour poking about on it
And it is less far less stupid
um, then We have been led to believe and led you to believe
So I'm open to mind being changed. I have a hard
Time believing that but I am I am open to facts
So what uh, what we talked about was there's this island that has an invasive species of deer and um, we were laughing about how the canadian government has apparently hired
international helicopter hunters to come and shoot them and we kind of talked about how
Hunters would have paid to hunt those deer and etc etc etc
And there are a lot of reasons that I wouldn't have considered for why that is not
Actually a real solution
So one of them is that
They have attempted that multiple times And the problems with the solution of just having hunters call them is that they don't get everything
And whenever they don't get everything the population bounces back pops right back up not only that
But when that population bounces back
It is every single time a more difficult population to cull because what the
What the population there has learned is that during hunting season or during hunting activities
There are places on the island which is populated by humans
There are places on the island that they can go where they cannot be hunted safely by recreational hunters
And they will camp out there. They will hide there. They'll wait there and they'll just wait it out closer to people
I'm assuming because you can't shoot closer to residential areas. Um, so they'll hide there
They'll hide in areas that are extremely Extremely difficult to access on foot, which is where the helicopters come in. Gotcha. Um
And basically what I was what I was
Not aware of and what uh, I have now
Had my mind opened to is that rage bait headlines like that rarely tell the complete story
In response to your question before the show, did it really need to be
Like a culling company from new zealand coming across the entire half of the freaking world to come do it?
Well, they did a bidding process And they won the bid
It was that simple that decision So they were looking for someone who was qualified in this type of cull
They put out a bid and that company won the bid. So that's why I thought it okay
And one of my problems here is i'm getting a lot of uh, my information from like random sources that I've come across here or there
I thought it like Didn't work very well and they only got like 80 of them or something. Uh, so I think it's uh, don't quote me on this
But I think it might have actually been paused for now Like I don't know if I don't know if this actually was paused now
But as far as my understanding goes that that is because of the fencing
Killing deer that they didn't want to it was like non-invasive or something. I think it's completely unrelated to so it is possible that this won't work
But When we were laughing about this on the WAN Show and we were like here's all the other things that could have tried
They have okay. They have tried that's fair enough. I still massively question the whole helicopter approach
So apparently there are parts of this island that are extremely hard is interesting to me inhospitable to
Human traversal. Yeah, you don't want to be like hanging off a cliff trying to shoot a deer
But deer can access them. Yeah. Um, so there's an entire
There's an entire parks canada Like microsite
About this whole thing What's the issue?
What's been done? What have we tried?
For literally 40 years We've tried hunting and culling and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera
Eradication a globally proven conservation method. Why here's the timeline. Why are we doing this?
Here's a huge FAQ
That is a lot. I spent a lot of time reading it. Um
It may not work. It may not be excellent use of funds. It's not
Obviously stupid either Uh, see I think my biggest problem was the use of funds made it seem stupid. Sure, uh, like this
This is the I think the specific art article that I had found. Yeah, so like
I don't know and that's you know what that's fair enough
Maybe it didn't work and maybe it turned out to be stupid. I don't know
But it was not the first choice
Yeah I don't think I said it was their first choice. No, no, we didn't
But they're basically it's not just a completely irrational completely stupid thing either
So all I'm saying is that the truth is often nuanced and rarely
Just Yeah, I do know that some of the prices that were thrown out were wrong because
The that wasn't the cost that wasn't the cost of like the helicopter
Shooting people that was the cost of the entire project
which As it tends to go with government stuff included a lot of other things
Um, not not just you know, the helicopter crew it involved like a huge amount of steps of the process
Dealing with things in a truly different ways. Um, so the the like millions of dollars number. I think is
I don't know if I would necessarily say inflated But I think when people were describing the project
They were only describing the helicopter part and then putting the dollar value on which I might have also done
Um, so it makes it sound like that was just for the helicopter portion, which I don't think is true
I think there was like paying native tribes and and doing a variety of other things
Well, apparently netflix video quality is like all over the place right now is is the main event happening now
It's being streamed on netflix. Yeah, I thought it was a netflix deal. Oh, wow
Um, has netflix ever had a fight before? I don't know
I mean netflix does all kinds of stuff. So who knows
Um See people are saying not yet. Oh, it's the women's fight now. Well, I mean that is the only real fight
That's like an actual main event. That's apparently like an important fight. Oh, okay
Yeah, the like like actual like legit fighters and you know stuff fight
Uh, yeah quality is uh quality is apparently terrible
Yeah minus likes cat fights confirmed. No, no, I don't I I'm not really I'm not really like a combat sports watcher
But I know that andrew is uh, I really liked watching one of one of them is irish
and I also know that You know, apparently this is this has been
the whole The whole circus show that is accompanying, you know, this this women's fight
Has been very helpful in promoting women's boxing. So I think that's really cool. Um, sure
So that's where I'm at on that I liked watching gsp because it felt very technical
Um, that kind of got me interested in jujitsu. That was a big a big thing that led me into starting to actually train jujitsu
Was like seeing like, oh, this is this is like
I don't know. Anyways, it doesn't really matter. I watched a sick like half hour
YouTube documentary on this guy Okay, he is an incredible story. Um, I again like I'm not into combat sports. I don't really care. Uh, but
Butterbean is like officially my hero. Oh, it's butterbean. Okay. Yeah, I didn't recognize him. Yeah
Um, so it's one of those things where like I can I can definitely appreciate
certain characters or styles and I can definitely get behind like
an underdog nobody story and stuff like that but
It's not, um I don't know. It's not
It's not like my thing. I don't follow. I don't follow it closely or anything like that
Wow. M poc nor 47 says netflix won't even load midwest us. I mean, that's the thing. I think people don't
I think people for the most part Don't understand what a fine balancing act
Infrastructure is it's also streaming. They do a lot of odd like how
like how How razor thin the margins are in this industry in some ways and how
How hard fought the efficiencies you gain are and how
um, how dialed in and tuned your
Your architecture is for your your anticipated load for your typical use case like
Like like Langley man said Langley DC has 4k Netflix. So it's probably not a origin issue. It's probably more of an edge issue
Yeah, so it could be that where you are
All of a sudden there's like A huge influx of netflix users for example taking it down possibly that's crazy
That's genuinely pretty crazy that netflix is struggling under this. That's that's pretty wild. Yeah, but but also it surprises me
And also doesn't because I mean, yeah, that's a thing you see like some big game will come out
Yeah, and like Oh, oh my god, everyone like half of the eastern seaboard is like internet speed is slow to a crawl like it
These things do happen not often anymore and and credit to the folks who who design and maintain these systems, but
It's a thing guys. Yeah, and like like lou said live
live is tough Live sucks so much harder like yeah, I you know
I I paid for sports net when uh during the playoffs last year and like yeah
I was freaking annoyed that the video quality was so crap just kind of like
And that wasn't the player sock too. I don't really like yeah, I don't really especially for like how much well
One of the details was that you figured out how to pirate streams just exploiting their players
So that's one thing um That sucks about it. We literally have better drm than roger sports net, which is pretty embarrassing
I learned so much about online video
From doing that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to try to steal it for from my own platform
And then you can just do that for everyone else's. Yeah, you learn pretty funny
Um Anyway, like I remember being annoyed about it, but on the flip side
I mean for how much they're charging I should definitely have gotten better video quality
But but on the flip side, I do understand that streaming video is really freaking hard stuff
Um All right, what are what are we supposed to be talking about right now?
Um, oh the eu find meta nearly 800 million euro over facebook marketplace
Uh, they're saying they violated eu antitrust rules by tying facebook marketplace to their social network facebook
Which gives marketplace an unfair advantage over rival classified ad services
The ec also found that meta exploited data gathered from facebook users to benefit marketplace
Further solidifying marketplace's position and hampering competition
This includes using personal data to display personalized ads on marketplace
That makes sense the ec asserts that meta's anti competitive behavior limits choice and innovation in the online classified market
That consumers face fewer options and potentially higher prices. I I will
I will say before there was like a bunch of options and now everyone just uses facebook marketplace
but what I will say is I use facebook marketplace because it is
Way better than everything that came before
Everything before was pretty much Terrible text on a page and the the integration with facebook and tying it to a
A real identity and a real user account where you can like
rate someone's Transaction and it like appears on their real like actual identity assuming that they are using a real account. There's obviously fake accounts
But I'd like to think I can tell the difference pretty easily
That is a fundamental What?
I just you're talking about how they're kind of crappy sites and this stat has just always
Flawed me They make that much 50 employees annual revenue 694 million
They just rake it in and always have and then just
You know, what should we do with the website? I don't know just make it
I love craigslist a tech site with html links. It's what google should have stayed as
It's so basic. I love it
You you back off my craigslist craigslist is a it's a stunning
Company and website that just people don't really think about and then they don't even have like sex work anymore
Yeah, that was a thing wasn't it? Oh That was the only reason craigslist existed. Yeah, I don't know as far as I could tell
Yeah, it began in 1995. So it's been running for 29 years revenue 660 million
Wow, okay Crazy
Absolutely crazy um
Just one of those companies that yeah, it doesn't get talked about a lot and just rakes it in
Anyways, sorry. Okay. Um Cool. So anywho, um
Um Yeah, so I I I don't know on the one hand. Yeah, they're they're right from an antitrust standpoint. They're like 100 right?
um, and and I wish that Other jurisdictions enforced antitrust the way the eu has started cracking down on it. It would absolutely be a good thing
I don't have much hope for the next little while as far as that goes
But hey lina kahn we we're rooting for you over here. Please hold on. Yeah, um
I know there's nothing you can really do about it, but please from my point of view at least for now until facebook abuses their position
Facebook marketplace has been a very good disruptor. I love facebook marketplace. I think there's things that they could do better
What's the differentiating Things that you like? I like that it's tied to an actual profile that you maintain and care about that is a reflection of your personal image
I think that improves accountability um
Compared to the number of times I've been ghosted on something like craigslist
Um, I like that sniff out if an account is real or not. Mm-hmm. I like that. I like that messaging is integrated
That's super convenient It's it's on an app that I already have on my phone and already use so
Another layer of convenience craigslist emails are a little annoying
Mm-hmm. Um, and and the fact that so many people don't include any way to reliably contact them
Um, like people don't like putting a phone number on craigslist for obvious reasons
But if you don't have a phone number I mean the best you can hope for is maybe 24 hour return round trip times for communication. It's not fast enough
So I like the immediacy of arranging things. I like that
Maps and locations are just integrated into the platform people people have to say where stuff is on craigslist
But it's not validated in any way whereas facebook. It's just
It's like your location that you've selected at some point and it's just like part of the whole listing
Is is my understanding. I'm sure they're not sure about that last one But everything else that I've said I are things that I love about facebook
Marketplace instant messaging makes trolling people that post things for free or a dollar and actually want it for a lot more
Very fun. I'd love to see facebook crack down on that I'd love the ability to report anyone who puts a price that isn't the actual price
But that's probably the only area where I would like to see them innovate
Where it would be a meaningful change and then at that point it would be basically perfect for me
I I wouldn't eat anything else
I know they're a sponsor, but like
They're not sponsoring this. Um, I think they're pretty much just doing computers and stuff java, but java seems pretty good
Yeah, they only do computer hardware though and that's a little limiting not everything that I buy itself trade computer hardware
Is computer hardware, but I had like first grab it whereas I had a genuinely good experience
What's cool about java is because it's so focused on computer hardware
You can have like filters and you can have You can have it's more like a shopping experience for used for used hardware
And there is absolutely a place for stuff like that But when it comes to just random stuff, I need like scrap wood
Yeah, yeah, that's gotta be hyper local too. Yeah, exactly facebook marketplace is the solution for that
Valve no, I know the valve one I talk about that on on wench all the time
Valves like the most profitable tech company there is per employee
Um by east one says that stuff's annoying on sites like zillow two
No, I don't want to see a listing for a brand new home for zero dollars show me real results shopping is so archaic
It just sucks as far as I can tell it's terrible as far as I can tell the powers that be
Um, no interest like it that way. Yep. They absolutely like it that way because
They want their commission and they want to be as necessary as possible for as long as possible. Yeah
And I'm not like this is not like just some conspiracy theorist stuff like or anything like that. This is just
looking at the money Following the money
Seeing where it goes and why and going. Oh
Okay, it is in literally
Not no one who's in a position of power has any motivation whatsoever to make this better to make this a smoother
Easier experience because all I would do is make it so that they circumvent you
Yes, that's it. So why do that? Yep, because a lot of these sites like they they do even have ways to circumvent having a purchasing realtor
Because there's ways to directly connect to the selling realtor. Um, but
You know, yeah Yeah, no anyways, I didn't want to talk about skeezy realtors. I'll be right back
Uh, sure I'll talk about an amazing topic while you're gone. Uh, pizza huts pizza warmer warms pizza with ps5 exhaust
I can go to another one
Uh, yeah, the pizza warmer is a 3d printable device
Oh, so it's just a box that channels air. Okay. I mean that makes sense. It's a 3d printable device
I don't know if you want to put your food on 3d printed Uh, 3d prints of food safe exactly one time
Because the small pores trap bacteria and you cannot clean them. Can you just put a plate in this thing? Maybe that would probably
Do you want to heat up? A thing that goes around food that is 3d printed
That should be I mean we're already full of microblastics. Anyway, shove more in there. Yeah, why not?
Let's go. We're able to extrude more out to make more pizza boxes. I don't know
generally Who knows I want to see the micro plastics
I want macro plastics in my system check. I'm not a not a doctor of pizza science. Anyways, uh, while it's designed to keep pizza warm
Macro plastics. Yeah, thanks Using the ps5's exhaust heat
There are concerns about its ability to heat evenly Additionally, placing that's the main concern a plastic device near a heat source raises safety concerns and obstructing the console's air flow
Could cause overheating the the ps5 heating box does not heat very easily 8 out of 10 on tech radar
I was messaged this internally by a writer a writer who is highly capable in my opinion of
making a sick version
of pizza heater version 2
And I I I'm sure I came across sarcastic and I was mostly but I love playing exclusive. I hope that they take up the banner
I've always wanted to like we could do a collab on ironically go back and make one that's actually
Way overbuilt and super sick. Most of the people here could have that done in like 20
Maybe 30 minutes. I don't even mean 3d printing though. Like make it sick
No, I mean like do the design For a sick one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have so many and we have every single tool now
Yeah, so like I think it would be wicked. Yes. We were just like copper. You know what?
We're going to go back to this project that was genuinely terrible
And make it really good. I mean like there was the there was the car
They did a car I thought I mean you've done so many things. I don't know. It's such a weird marketing
As far as I can tell if you like whisper project ideas near Sebastian things just happen. Um, he's already texted me a couple times
But it's kind of aluminum trays. You're not like eating the pizza off of the
Uh, the plastic I didn't realize it sits on top when when I read this topic. Originally. I was imagining that it's on top
Yeah, I was imagining that it was like a tube that kind of came out of the back of the play station
And then like wrapped around into a box, but no, it seems to sit on top
Maybe we should click on the link and show people. Hold on. I know how to host a show sometimes
Wow, the bare minimum When he does sit on top, what are you talking about? No, no, no, that's what it actually does
I thought it was like a tube out the back I don't own a PS5 on the side of the PS5
The PS5 has a giant fan hole in the side of it Yeah, but D brand made some plates to expose because they patented what I expected. Yeah, so it goes all the way around it
Well, that's fine Yeah, it doesn't look like it heats very easily garbage product
Pulling inspiration from pizza huts red roof the lid seamlessly opens like a laptop for easy
Pizza access those things don't line up What what pizza hut?
What pizza hut roofs easily seamlessly open? I also keep my pizza in laptops
Designed to snugly affix to the top of your gaming console They don't want to say ps4 or ps5 with a tray that fits several slices
It won't go anywhere and you won't have to either
Oh god Channeling worth from the gaming console's warm air pipe straight to your pizza slices
Science have been doing for the greater good Great pizza. Maybe this timeline is okay. I like this a lot. This isn't all right part of it
This makes everything okay. I feel much more like secure as a person now
Can you approve a project for us doing? I don't have to be involved at all
I feel so validated by the uh ps5 warming thing by the way
Not a stupid idea just bad execution. Well, this one's not called heater. I never
Ah
I never pitched a heater Okay, what do you want? I I think people at the company should actually make one that's like sick
We should do it We have we have abundance of talent in that realm at this point
We wouldn't take a lot of design time. I absolutely think we should do it. We should do it. It'd be sick
I'd be so down. Yeah, we'd have to figure out whatever the most like
Efficient way of capturing the heat is it should be like
Overly scientifically cft analysis. We would do flow calculations
we could play around with the fan curves in the system to make sure that like
Our our target temperature is like as hot as possible
So basically we'd we'd basically run we'd run it at idle or we'd run it fanless when it's at idle
So that we could keep so we could keep the actual temperature of the CPU as high as possible. Yeah
Yeah Dude, I would be I would be super down. I think it's sick
I think it's sick. You could probably even like work with pizza hut
Like imagine getting pizza hut to sponsor it. You just make like the the pc version. Yeah, you're into reaching out to brands and things now
I'd be kind of sick actually like unironically be kind of sick to work with pizza hut on this
Do it. I don't know. I certainly wouldn't work with pizza hut. Um
Why? You know, like their pizza do you I don't know when the last time I had it. I have no idea
Yeah, I just think they have a funny red hat
It opens like a laptop
Yeah, pizza hut is like not good pizza. Okay. I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter
Is there a pizza chain that would have you know money to do sponsorship that does good pizza?
I don't like panna go. It's panna go canadian only though. I think so
Uh, I'm pretty sure it's canadian company. Oh, okay. Well, let's see
At least it was when I worked there
What what just what just happened? I tried to
Try to load this site and it just what just happened
Okay, I'm trying to go to okay contact us. Okay
Man, remember when companies used to have it about us and it like said where they were based and stuff
Yo, they're from abbotsford No way. What the first three stores for panna go pizza opened in abbotsford in 1986
Abbotsford, British Columbia
Panagopolis two for one pizza place
I remember when it was called panagopolis Well, apparently the the actual name was panagopolis two for one pizza place and then it changed to panagopolis pizza place
And then it later changed to panagopolis. So you probably saw it then. Yeah, and then it shortened to panago
That's crazy. I didn't know about any of the previous names before panagopolis. I had no idea. They were just a local company
Crazy the headquarters is down the road from seven oaks mall. Okay. Well, there you go
So probably not panago then but I don't think they are now. I think they're like nationwide now
But yeah, I don't think they're outside of canada. All right, then they've always been pretty solid
I don't know. Maybe it doesn't matter. I don't think that pizza has to be something that I like personally endorse
It's just literally a warm object to keep warm. So maybe I maybe I don't care that much
Okay, so business team if you're watching this, I'm open to working with whoever as far as the pizza goes
And it's not like I have to say Their pizza is good. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's okay. You're saying their pizza is being kept warm
Like it doesn't collaborate with pizza pizza
Their pizza can serve as both a construction material and content
Yeah, okay, pizza also canadian. I've never had pizza pizza. It used to be called little caesars. Oh, what?
Right, really? No, I think it's a sub separate a separate brand. I think I thought that well, that was their slogan little caesars pizza
That was like their thing pizza pizza Wasn't it little caesars was american though. I know but we had it here
But pizza pizza is a canadian brand. Oh, it is. Yeah. Oh never mind
I know this. Apparently it's not the same thing pizza pizzas east coast. Wait, it's separate. They're different. Okay
I don't know little caesars used to have pizza pizza as they're like
Jingle, you know, I only know that pizza pizza is a canadian brand because of because of baby no money
I was trying to figure out like, how do I know this even though I've never been there? And that's why brilliant. Yeah
Uh, all right, cool. Yeah, pizza pizza was just a slogan. Okay. Well, let's see what I know
Speaking of things that I know I gave bad advice for washing the backpack
In 2022 someone asked on the forum if the LTT backpack was washer safe
And uh, Linus replied in the thread saying it's probably fine
Anything with lots of little hanging pieces should be placed in a mesh bag before putting it in the washing machine
This is much for the safety of your washing machine as the garment I don't think we officially advertise our bag as washing machine safe
But I'd be blown away if anything bad happened if you run it on cold do not put it in the dryer
Turns out Hey, not sure if nick has already messaged you about this
But can we please delete this comment from Linus asap context customer followed this recommendation to disastrous results
Um, you just scroll down and there's the photo
Turns out it wasn't fine It's weird to me that it it only really seems to have happened in that one spot like the rest of it looks
I don't know how I don't know how that would have happened. Yeah, I mean neither
But um, anyway, we only recommend spot cleaning machine washing is not recommended
The bulkiness of the backpack is likely to lead to it being damaged in the spin cycle or something like that
Um, so you can mix water with a small amount of laundry detergent
Use that to dampen a washcloth and wipe clean then allow it to air dry by placing it upside down in a well ventilated space
Um, I am blown away that something bad happened to it, but um, and like that we did replace the backpack
And that's specific of an area and like trust me bro. I will give you good advice or I will replace your backpack. Yeah
Whoops Yeah
Pretty funny I wonder if what happened to that is the same thing that happened to one of my shoes
Where you know how you know how washers have those like the ARM things?
Panels to help mix up the clothing Um, one of my shoes got stuck
In between the sidewall and one of the the whatever you want to call them
So like maybe the bag got like stuck in there or something. I have no idea because that is
Weird and very oddly specific. I'm not sure how that happened
But anyways Anyway, trust me bro. Guaranteed of the rescue
Apex legends overwatch and fortnite all launch classic modes as gamers play the same games over and over and over and over
A recent study found that while the console and pc games market grew by 2.6 percent in 2023
90 percent of new game revenue belonged to just 43 titles most of which were live service games
So if you were wondering Why live service games
Are everywhere like a cancer. That's why this is why it's gamers fault five games accounted for
27 percent of all playtime. It's only gamers fault fortnite roblox league of legends
Minecraft and gta 5
50 percent of time spent playing new games a maximum of two years old was on sequels like ea sports fc
FIFA they lost licensing deal ha ha nick ploof. It's apparently worked on this one
NBA 2k and call of duty
Apex overwatch and fortnite all came out over five years ago and are still going strong apex. He's about 18 million active players monthly
Overwatch 2 sees about 6.4 million daily not on steam. Apparently everyone hates it there
Uh fortnite sees about 3 million daily. I have a really hard time believing
Overwatch 2 is bigger than fortnite by over double. Yeah, I have a really hard time. These all have citations
fortnite.gg Um
That's a 24 hour peak like just in the last 24 hours. So i'm sure they've had uh, yeah, they've definitely had bigger peaks
The point is just millions of players playing these old games
Remasters and remakes also incredibly popular warcraft 3 reforge was recently updated
Actually, i'm really excited about this one. Uh, warcraft 3 reforge got a 2.0
You can toggle between the old and new graphics and it apparently like tries to fix a bunch of the issues and
This was released alongside remastered warcraft 1 and warcraft 2
I kind of want to buy it. It's like 40 bucks. I don't know if I really want to give
Blizzard Activision money, but I really want it. I tried to dig out my old warcraft 3 disc and I
Like I still have my key, but I lost my disc
And I but I have it in I have it in a like a file type that no I no longer have any way to like mount to anything
and I'm just like Demon tools demon tools. Anyway, diablo 2 resurrected gta trilogy was recently updated to fix a lot of issues
Multiple years later horizon zero dawn remastered. Why nick lufa?
Resident evil 1 2 3 4. That one is weird. It's final fantasy 7 remake
Don't forget about the pixel remasters of the earlier final fantasy games that luke is never going to get around to playing
Anyway, the point is it's It's a very it's a very long list recent video
video game remakes and remasters
um What is basically our discussion question is there are plenty of games that needed remaster horizon zero dawn was not one of them
What is the deal with this? Gamers suck
Okay, another reason new triple a games are expensive while free to play games are free
A lot of these games are free to play Not all of them are
But it's free to play a game you already bought like a minecraft for example my issue isn't at all with
the play time My issue I think is with the revenue being so concentrated on live service
90% of new game revenue were 43 titles most of which were live service games. That's the that's the part that sends out to me
If you're still playing a live service game five years later, are you really playing the same game though?
I mean the fact that they had to release classic modes at all sort of
Suggest that or acknowledges I kind of do agree with that that the game has changed enough and and that's their whole model
Right is to keep yeah keep taking that money that they're making and putting it into new content that keeps people engaged now
that can obviously Manifest in sort of really negative manipulative ways
But on paper the idea is not that crazy. It's almost like episodic gaming, but
More money and more effective I guess
Yeah, and to be clear like, you know, if you if you play some free game a ton
spending an amount of money on that game that you think is
Comparatively worth the time that you spent on it in order to reward the dev
I don't think it's necessarily bad, but I also know people personally that like back in
2015 had spent over two grand only legends. It's just like bro
Avon fox relax makes a really good point here intellectual lock-in once you've put that much time into getting good
Leaving the game feels like I think that's part of the time and it's not fun to suck
I think that's part of it And I think I think it's not fun to suck and people are so
sweaty these days like wow
like Genuinely spending your evening
Just sitting in an aim trainer all night Is not a thing that anyone would have done when we were growing up and if you did people would have
Shamed you like there were custom maps and stuff for things like counter strike or whatever, but that was
Abnormal that was something that like people who want to go pro do or something
That was not something that average gamers would do most the custom maps for counter strike were like
Warcraft 3 mod So you'd get like lightning bolts that go along with your m4 shots and stuff like it was I don't know
There's a totally different one. I mean there were like aim oriented. I know I'm just saying like now a lot of them are like that
Back then they were weird little fun games
Like that's not I don't know man. That's not fun to me. That's like another job. Yeah, I tried it once and was like
I'll just be worse. I guess. Okay crazy Crazy side side tangent or not tangent, but a bit of a reach here. Sure
Are we attaching more importance to our accomplishment in our hobbies because we're feeling less
Fulfilled by our work
Are we looking for fulfillment so likely that it's frustrating
I can't probably couldn't prove this I think that's right though. I mean there's been there's been so much commentary about how there's no real progression
You can't not only is there no real progression in your work You're not going to be able to progress in financially in your personal life
You can't afford to buy a home For example, you can't afford to buy or really own anything
So is this like people who dress up their dogs and stuff because they can't afford games like it's something to be able to measure
It's something to be able to grow and be good at achieve
It's an achievement yeah Maybe definitely maybe I know like there's this there's the whole male pattern anxiety thing
I don't know enough about this. I might say something wrong Go figure it out yourself. Yeah, go watch a different podcast if you want to hear knowledgeable people
Yeah, the land show is the land show. It's always going to be the land show
We talk about ramming
I mean that we know about The whole male pattern anxiety thing is that uh
And again, please go look this up. Don't take me at my word, but um
Average male anxiety and average female anxiety are different things obviously there's there's crossover crossover whatever blah blah blah
Um But a lot of men tend to get
Anxiety spikes because of not being able to enact positive change
um, if they feel like they can't Improve their their environment if they can't improve their work if they if they don't have agency
to to try to Drive things forward
Rob dog here says what am I actually even achieving in my 40-hour work week?
My hobbies I do much better. Yeah, and that's a huge problem for a lot of people. They they have
I don't know what they're called like ghost jobs or whatever
Um, that's like a very real thing
I don't know it sounds pretty likely Sounds pretty likely to me especially with how seriously people
Approach it because that's the biggest change that I've noticed Yeah, and it's like you could try to be good, but you were playing a game now. It's
You're trying to be good and it's like Life or death like I was lucky, you know, I um, I happened
It's not like I planned to work at a company where progression was possible
Like I got a little lucky. I worked hard. I earned my promotions obviously
But what I was lucky in being able to do was having the opportunity to earn a promotion
That's not always possible. Yeah, whether you have an obstructionist boss or whether you just have a corporate structure
Or a union structure that does that rewards time
You know rather than just be nowhere up to go. Yeah. Yeah, or you're or you're in a company
So you you can be in a company that's either too big or too small to properly recognize
You know the exceptional work you're doing there can be a thousand reasons why career progression is not is not a thing
um but um
And so I I don't I don't relate to this but I can understand it if that makes sense like
What would I have spent my energy on if every day I clocked in
Did the same damn thing and clocked out
I'd want to achieve something I'd want to feel like I had power over something
But like for me my my job is what gives me fulfillment
But I also have the privilege of having a job that can give me fulfillment
And I do I think that is a notable
Not necessarily very common privilege at this point. No, I I I see that and I do think that there's a push and a pull
I do think for sure part of it is a structural problem And I do think that part of it is an attitude problem. I think that there are there it's a spectrum
There's going to be cases where it's a hundred percent on the structure of this organization
I know people in my personal life that I've talked to you about their work life
And they'll complain about how they they can't progress and then they'll also talk to me about
The stuff that they do at work and I'm like and there are situations where it's a hundred percent because you're phoning it in
But I think as is almost always the case the truth probably lies somewhere in between
Yep for most people. Um, but yeah, it's just
It's it's made gaming kind of not fun for me to be honest with you
Because I don't have time to be sweaty and I don't have the wherewithal to be sweaty
It's also, I mean, we've talked about this extensively on wancho, but the cheating problem is crazy now
Shroud was fairly recently quoted saying many things in random pickup games on counter strikes
Encounter strike The the chance that you have a cheater in your lobby is essentially a hundred percent
Really we we know that effectively to be true with tarakov. Yeah, like if you're playing a shooter game, you're gonna have cheaters
all over the place It's like cheater be cheated essentially at that point then like it gets just sad pretty brutal
That's like that's a completely sad state of affairs
I used to love playing Online shooters and like you you always knew that was a problem that that had been a problem since when we were kids
but it was
I don't think I was just Naive to it. I think it was way more blatant
You were either very obviously cheating or you weren't and now it's like a lot of the cheats are a lot more subtle
It's like, okay You better situational awareness. Yeah, you can't you can't catch that on a kill cam
And people are like kind of trained on trying to hide it now Um, like it's it's and and the barrier of entry doesn't exist
Yeah, I don't even remember the last time a major streamer got caught cheating
Oh, there's given how many of them got caught cheating in the old days or maybe it just doesn't make headlines anymore
Yeah, okay. Seriously. There's there's a youtuber that has a
A series that has very many episodes in it that is just streamers getting caught cheating
Yeah sad
It's rough. Well, I think it's time for darn Clara, dude
How is it that Dan leaves for like 30 seconds every time we actually need him today? Yeah
Um, okay. Well, why don't we kill time? Well, we wait for when after dark people are talking about netflix being like
Is there any other topic we need to go over? No, I don't think so the onion one. No, I'm over it
Um, I just thought it was funny. Yeah, and but it's a it's apparently sort of
Unresolved now. So got it. We'll let that kind of sort itself out. Yeah
Oh
How are you guys doing? How are you doing? I'm all right
Ankle's how long do you think it'll be? uh
I sprained my ankle at This dufus's party. Um
I blame you I blame you fair enough. Um
Basically what happened was I used to play paintball all the time
And I scratched a bit of an itch for me. Yeah, it was fun. I well
Say it was complicated I made I made a concerted effort to have fun. It had it had I
Go ahead public paintball fields
I've I've always had a problem. This one had more than I've had before in one game
I not even speaking for Linus who had a worse experience than I did. I had to replace my
My uh, you call them markers. I had to replace my my gun my marker
Three separate times in one game
That's a little bit of a lot Yeah, especially for how long um, I was waiting for I I had to replace my marker five times across
Two two matches and I didn't even and I could have replaced it more times for the issues that I was having
Just like sputtering. Oh, yeah. I mean I had that constantly. I didn't have a single gun that actually worked properly
but You know the worst that I you would usually have was like every third trigger pull it would actually shoot and then it's like
Okay, I'll just shoot more in the first round the likes there are the second round of the speedball map. Yes
Um, I like coordinated with my team. I was like, okay, you and me are going to go this way hard
We're going to like draw their fire and we're basically just going to like lay down cover
I saw you guys are going to go this way My marker didn't fire one ball if this might this might pat you on the back too much
But I saw that movement happen and I knew it was you
Because like we've played a lot of yeah, we've played paintball together before but we've also played a lot of video games
So I know the type of like strategizing the Linus will do and I saw like one person hang back at a barrel
Which I guess was you and I saw I think three or four different people like launch up one side all at the exact same side
I'm like, that's not normal human movement. That was a plan. I'm pretty sure I know who did that
So the problem is that because I was shooting blanks
You know in more ways than one
There was no reason for anybody to duck Because there was no actual paint landing anywhere near them on that map. Yeah lit me up
We did start noticing on other maps that even if your gun The fact that when you get to this level strategizing, you know, it's kind of bad, but we noticed that even
Even if your gun stopped functioning It would still make the noise and you'd get the like puff of like kind of smoky. So people would fake
Yeah, people would fake and it didn't work when I was on that first map
People figured out that I wasn't firing anything
On the first map it was I would have lit up like between four and six people
I think I was they they were wide open because everyone was looking at my guys that were running up the other side
It was just stacked oil barrels So on the first map people were ducking away more from the sound of the paintballs hitting the the empty drums
On the future maps that wasn't a thing. Yes, so it was more effective later on
Yeah, but but I would have been able to keep everyone's head down and I would have been able to
Hit like half a dozen people But because I wasn't firing a single shot instead, everyone's like
And so all these like pubs at the field are like
They were they were pretty bad and I got up dude. I got I got
obliterated I got team killed on that map because I was I was so far up on one of the sides
Trying to get far enough up that I could like
Shoot you guys broadside basically And I was I was on the side of the barrels because that was actually more defensive than being behind them now
So I was on the side of the barrel and I I saw one of you But I had to get back around to get an angle
So I come back around and my chest is facing back at us and just square right in the middle
Nice and I was like what They were literally at the first barrel next to the spawn never moved ever
I had one opportunity to shoot someone the whole game and it was me nice
Okay So anyway back to the story. I used to play all the time and I would just play in whatever like ratty shoes
I didn't care about destroying. So I never had any traction
Specifically the organizer of this party Bless her by the way
Put in the thing. Hey, make sure you wear hiking boots do this do that and I was like, oh, yeah
I always like I never take my hiking boots for paintball. Uh, that obviously makes sense. I should just put on my hiking boots
So I brought them Anyway on the second map. I was like trying to do a push
I was trying to grab a couple of the noobs that had barely fired a shot because they just hung around at the spawn
And I'll talk about why that is especially stupid at this place and a little bit
Uh, but they just hung around at the spawn and I was like, okay, come on. Let's go. Let's push. Okay. You guys are with me
Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. And so I was like trying to get up ahead of them
So that I could kind of cover them to get into a position that would be
moderately useful And I went sliding into cover
except I was wearing hiking boots instead of just garbage shoes
Sudden traction. Yeah. So man, I immediately knew that I was
very hurt So that's that's why D brand has all those videos of me hobbling around their facility with a cane
Because I at that point thought it was probably a grade two sprain
I think now it's just a really bad grade one
Um, I was on the badminton court last night. So this is about a week later
and I Would describe my strength as about 30 percent
And my range of motion is a hundred percent with only a little bit of pain
But if I try to actually put any load on it, it's probably like
A four out of ten. Like it's it's still pretty painful. I have a tournament coming up
So I'm super especially not stoked because I was wanting to be like training a few times a week and like
Get getting some last minute, you know, feel in
um, and now I'm just Upset pretty much. Anyway, let's talk about why this field is trash and um,
I'll be naming names because I'm actually super mad. Yeah, why not? Let's do it. Um, boom get roasted
Some some of the ways in which delta force paintball in maple ridge is trash
Are are subjective so
Um, it's here. Hold on. Let's let's get let's get the right location here. Um, delta force in canada. Hold on
What what is this? Calgary. Okay, here we go. The other side is maple ridge paintball. So yeah, here we go. Uh, okay
So, uh, one of some of the reasons that this location is garbage
Are subjective. Uh, for example, it's a 50 cal field which basically means
That the the paintballs are smaller for the uninitiated. That's going to sound big because of rifle rounds
Yeah, but but uh, standard paintballs are 68 cal. So quite a bit larger
Now the benefit of 50 cal is that it's friendlier for like children
Um, and people Who are
um, so that's good It makes it a little bit easier to go do your like stag or corporate event or whatever else there
Um, but it comes with some very
objective problems So one of them is that because they have less mass
They don't carry in a straight line for as long. Yeah. Wow. They were inaccurate. Well, there's multiple issues there
So, okay, sure. Let's let's talk about the inaccuracy. So they're inaccurate and here are the other contributing factors to the inaccuracy
Um, I don't I don't know how good the regulators are but none of our air tanks were full
So they were they were kind of like They were full ish
Barrels are garbage on those rental markers, which is pretty typical, but they were
Garbage rental marker barrels and the number three is as far as I could tell
Looking at their their prep area Their process for like for maintenance and cleaning was to like hose things down essentially
Um, and like they they'd use a dirty barrel squeegee and be like, okay, you're good to go
They actually got mad at me for taking my barrel off being like this is wet. They're like, no, it's not
I'm like, bro. Quite bro. It's it's wet. There's absolutely no possibility
whatsoever of a paintball coming out of this going in a straight line. It's got in trouble
Yeah, anyway, snipped out and was like, don't take the barrel out. Um, so so so they're inaccurate
Problem number two is that they because they have less momentum inertia
Kinetic energy, let's go with that because they're carrying less kinetic energy
But they have the same thickness of shell
With less overall weight and a higher shell to goo ratio
They're far less likely to break when they hit you. So in many cases they can actually end up hurting more
One of the maps, uh, the actually the most fun map that we had
I didn't really like the game modes that we did. It felt designed to well, I can get into that expand your paintballs
but anyway, um One of the maps was a they call it catch of the flag, but it's really raised the flag
So you had to pull on a rope and raise a flag
and One of the the ladies that wasn't in our group
Ran up to the flag and started pulling it up. My brother just
Shot a million times and she was like reacting to all the shots, but the paintballs weren't breaking
And the field rules were if the paintball doesn't break, you're not out. So
She got shot a ton of times and it probably hurt quite a bit
But we like won the round Because the paintballs didn't break. My brother was just like what?
Like anyways for context they were on different teams. Yeah. Yeah. Um, okay
So that's that's issue number two with 50 cal issue number three
Is kind of tied into what luke just said where the game modes appeared to be designed to make you expend as much paint as possible
So they did like constant respawning over longer rounds
um, they Uh
Part of this is just new player behavior So I can't really blame the field for it
But they have you so far away with this paint that is inaccurate and doesn't break that you
Because you're a novice player and you don't understand you have to get closer to actually get it get a kill
It was also difficult because I find the the 50 cal
It was really hard to tell on the first map the speedball map You could kind of tell if you were hitting because you could hear it hit the drums
But it's so hard to see like Normal paintball whatever it makes a big mark normal to me paintball. You can see a big mark
68 cal is normal. I can also often see the projectile. I feel like yeah, like I can tell if I'm firing properly
With the 50 cal I couldn't tell if I was hitting or not
So I had to kind of like shoot at someone for a little while and be like no, okay
I think they're out of range and then move closer um, so so
Now problem number three is that you can fit so many paintballs into your into your hopper
That it's easy to just like use everything without really thinking about it
But that's that's as much a you know a player issue as it is anything else
My my let's call this my real number three is that because 50 cal is a bulls*** standard that nobody uses except crappy
Fields for like crappy rental markers There's a handful of conversion kits that i'm aware of but for the most part
None of the custom decent equipment and I don't even mean high-end stuff like I never had a high-end marker
I have an a5. It's just like a A beater
Huck it into the back of the car pretty standard like drop it in the mud and pull it out
Wipe it down and keep going marker um tipman. Yeah tipman a5
No decent marker is available in 50 cal
No decent barrels are available in 50 cal So I do understand why fields want to disincentivize
These like gravy seals from showing up at the field with their fully auto. That can be very annoying
They're fully auto markers. They're crew of everybody in you know camo head to toe with a case of paint each and just like
Light everybody up like that's not fun for new players. It kind of destroys the balance of the game
I I 100% get that but the flip side is I can't even use
Anything that fires reliably Because like I had my a5 in my trunk. It literally can't even use it because of their garbage field and their garbage 50 cal
Markers. Yeah, so so those are my issues with 50 cal
My issues with the field are many They do have pricing on their website. You can you can see if you go into pricing you can uh
Hold on. Hello There's probably a lot of people on it right now. Yeah, so there's uh, there's there's okay. Hold on me
So we've got packages so you can have a look at adult paintball prices prices. So you can see
Here's your 1999 admission includes four to five action packed games. Blah blah blah blah blah blah
Uh, oh packages on the day. Oh, you can get the recruit pack commando pack black ops pack pack shows you all the things
You get gloves a green guard blah blah blah gets all this stuff
Sorry, what A half case for 160 canadian dollars
Yeah They don't they they warn you they tell you on the day
Remember I was with a group and a lot of people will be I mean so I was there with a group
So they tell you on the day even happened. I didn't hear it the paint is it cost more after after your first round
So you got to buy your package ahead of time But what they don't tell you is that everyone in your group has to buy the same package
So if not, everybody wants a black ops pack with a thousand paintballs
um T s and 500 rounds sounds like a ton until your guns are incredibly
The basic recruit pack. Yeah until your guns are incredibly inaccurate and they have no range
So you're like test firing 80 of your rounds and your guns are incredibly not 80 but a lot
And your guns are incredibly inconsistent. So you can't actually tell if they're even working or not half the time
So you end up over firing a ton
And I'm going to get to the very worst part. So the paint is ludicrously expensive, which again
I actually do understand the argument that I've heard for expensive paint at
Friendlier fields is that if you have those guys with their fully auto markers showing up and essentially playing speed ball
With kind of nerf them a little bit with fish in a barrel You're you're basically trying to make it. So it's like
Ding nickel nickel It makes people theoretically conserve conserve ammunition
And it makes those like speedballer guys avoid those fields, which
Is a more noob friendly environment or a more intermediate friendly environment
So different fields are tailored to different groups and there will be days at some of the good fields
I doubt delta force does this but there will be days at some of the good fields where it'll be like
Bring your own gun only day and the paint's cheaper. For example
So I so i'm on board with that but 160 plus tax. So the the total charge to my credit card was 180
For a thousand rounds is
Utterly ludicrous. It's crazy pricing
Ludicrous they couldn't even give me a full case for that. They gave me half a case
um And like there's a bunch of stuff that comes with it if you buy ahead of time and if you buy it after the fact
You just get the paint and then you go. Holy crap. That's expensive
Then they throw in like a couple little random little extra things
like here is for um
Here's for context. Here's a 2000 count case of marbolizer from empire
Which I don't know if this is premium paint. It probably isn't but I recognize the brand
I haven't really played in a long time. So whatever the point is $65
So the markup on their cheap ass 50 cal. Remember less paint even the markup on their cheap ass 50 cal
Compared to badlands is what what's the math on this? So it'd be like $32.50 for a thousand at badlands
So they're essentially charging me. What does that work out to like five times the price?
Ridiculous And I haven't even told you guys the worst part
um They don't count headshots
That is Beyond a shadow of a doubt designed to make it so that you just
Are plink plink plink wasting paint at each other because marker shots count
But headshots and they didn't even mention that I had to ask. Yeah
Yeah, headshots do not count
75 percent of the exposed
Opponent Is their head?
All you see is a hopper a barrel, which you're not hitting with these useless markers. Yeah, definitely not and their head
Yeah So pretty much also the the safety never go there the safety presentation
Sales pitch. I don't remember anything that was about safety other sales pitch shots don't count and then
And I don't think I'm exaggerating this time 80 percent of it was a sales pitch or more
Crazy crazy crazy crazy that being said and I was also to know
Uh positives of the field itself. I had a pretty great time. Yeah. Yeah, I just because paintball is just fun
running around in a field With an objective is fun. I got pretty mad about the number of times that my marker didn't work
Yeah, and I had just bought a case of paint for the group. So I had just spent like almost 200 dollars
And I sat out for probably a third of that round
Um, I should probably more just like waiting around for like a replacement mark because so many people were getting replacements
So I walked off. I was basically like, look, I think that I should get a I should get a partial refund with all due respect
This is you can even play you only get three rounds. You can't play This is this is ridiculous. Um, I've had to replace my marker five times
over One and a half rounds at this point because I walked off during the middle of the second round. I was like, this is ridiculous
Um, and also I had hurt my ankle. So I was like, I yeah, I I think I should get a partial refund. Like I'm done
Um, and it wasn't even my money for the refund. Like it would have gone to the organizer who bless her
Did an amazing job of putting together an extremely special
Party for which was really cool. Generally really freaking
Um, yeah, so so anyway, and they were basically just like
No We're not interested. They blamed it on the weather after buying the expensive case
And I have played plenty in adverse weather conditions
If your markers are maintained properly and not complete garbage in the first place, they will operate
Just fine on a misty day like we had like yeah, if you don't clean or dry anything
Yeah, obviously like, you know balls are gonna curve or whatever else
But the way the guns were not firing at all Or they were sputtering and you'd cock them back and there's just like so much
Paint casing just like caked into these things that you can't even you can't even properly pull the bolt all the way back
Or it'll go all the way back and it'll get wedged there and stuff like it's just poor maintenance
Don't tell me that it's because it's misting and also if it's misting in vancouver
That's a pretty normal condition. So you should probably account for it
So, yeah, I I left them an absolutely scathing review on google maps and
F*** you delta force paintball
There's also, I don't know if you were there when we figured this out, but a bunch of the google reviews talk about how they
Incentivize leaving five star reviews Yeah, they have no like access to free water on site. They don't have running water
And they'll give you bottled water if you leave a five star review right in front of them. Yeah
So some of the negative reviews point that out. They're like, don't believe the five star reviews
They tried to get us to give them a positive review By like essentially bribing us with free water
Yeah, because like I've I haven't gone paintballing
Very much, but I've gone some amount of times probably half the amount of times I've gone have been with Linus
But I haven't had a field experience that bad before
So I was stunned when I saw the rating was so high and then somebody in the group found that they had uh
Yeah, there was a bunch a bunch of the low rating reviews were like
I saw someone leaving a five star review because of getting a free bottle of water or or whatever else. Um, which is like
Ridiculous because it's effectively a paid review at that point. Um
Um Yeah, anyways apparently the fight's starting
So should we just give up on retaining people on wancho at this point?
Probably 8 30. Yeah, I gotta go in one minute. Oh, yeah, right
Okay, Dan. Do you have any merge messages for us to kind of blow through here? Yeah, sure
Uh, let me do the after dark way. Are you getting in position there? Heck, yeah
Uh greetings dll waiting for cargo pants to come back in 32
I was wondering why LTT on the youtube mobile app has picture-in-picture without a premium membership
Can't do this on any other youtube channel Apparently it was like a pilot program that they applied to our channel or something. That's what I that's what I saw on reddit
I don't actually know anything about this. I don't remember anything
So there you go. By the way, I got you something me. Yeah
Yeah Your sweater, what is this? Oh my god, this is horrible. I suck
Oh nice
Nice these coffee zilla
Uh shirts arrived a thousand years ago. They've just been sitting on set and they've just been sitting on the set
I keep forgetting to bring them out. Um, so this was from the speaking of the paul brothers
Um, this is funding coffee zilla's
Legal battle with which which paul is he fighting with?
I think it's logan paul coffee zilla. Yeah, logan paul. Yeah, it's logan paul
So the the one that isn't fighting mike tyson. So, uh, there you go and it says, um
I used to like coffee zilla Until he investigated me, which I thought was pretty funny because he actually did upload an investigation of me at one point
But I still like him
I went to microsoft recently and I noticed the OLED monitors looked much worse than the OLED tvs
I see on display at cosco Is this a Windows issue or OLED panels? Just that difference. It's probably a Windows HDR issue. Um
OLED monitors should look pretty good
Might might have been a content issue as well. Not everyone setting up a retail display knows what the crap they're doing
Long time listener first time merch messenger. I don't think we're calling them out anymore, but okay
How has your experience been maintaining both a forum versus a discord server?
What led to the creation of the LTT discord? We don't really maintain the discord server
To my knowledge Um, I prefer forums. I never really go on the discord, but I still use the forum
I've been on the discord a couple times I think
I don't know. It just kind of moves too fast for me. I'm too old. There's there's the Floatplane chat on the discord
So I lurk that But I am I'm traditionally a lurker like ocn back in the day ncx forums back in the day all that kind of stuff
I didn't really post much just kind of hung around long time listener first time
Love it Thanks Floatplane chat. They're one of the chats of all time. Hey the genius bird whisperer and Linus
Get a butter up the curator
Well, it worked No, I hate that To Linus genius bird whisperer. Do you really just reheat your family's friday night dinner when wan goes really long?
Um, I mean friday. I'm never there for dinner. So realistically that's one of the nights that they have something
I don't like so I'll just like have breakfast cereal for dinner
I'll make I'll make like a I'll make like a tray of like cheese triskets
I have food prep. So I go to the fridge and go into microwave
three minutes Cottage cheese
I think I'd rather die than eat cottage cheese cottage cheese chicken
It actually has the consistency of vomit and I can't I can't abide it. What's the name of
bok choy cottage cheese chicken rice
frank's red Terrible add the frank's red good. Huh interesting
Hi LL and Dan it's the day of my cousin's wedding and I got a cold just to mess with my day
What's the most inconvenient time you've gotten sick at the wedding reception right now? It's a hoot
Inconvenient the most recent scrapyard wars. Oh, yeah, I'm super inconvenient. Let's start inconvenient time. I've gotten sick
Uh Was I sick at LTX once?
I'm not sure. I don't remember. I just uh, I don't have time to be sick. So it's um
Like I usually just work through it Um, I did take a sick day this week, but that's pretty like one that is pretty unusual wasn't it monday?
Uh, does that even count if it was monday? Yeah monday is my work from home day
But I was supposed to be in office this monday. I think no no I no I was at D brand this monday
I was in Toronto this monday and I was uh, still not feeling a hundred percent, but I just
Yeah Uh, no it was last friday and I just still came in for wancho. Oh, yeah, I think that was it or maybe it was thursday
I don't know the point is um
Inconvenient sickness
There's some really funny videos I think there was like an ASUS monitor video from years and years ago where like my voice is like super long like
frog croaky Uh, I missed a shoot on thursday. That's what that's what it was last week
I missed a shoot on thursday because I was sick and we've actually got a clip of me calling in sick
Yvonne's got her phone next to me. My voice is hilarious
Like it's one of those situations where when you call in sick
You call and you say hello and your boss is like, oh, you're sick. See you in a bit. Yeah. Yeah, like I sounded
Horrible. It was a different era. You know pre-covid was actually a very different time
It's hard to reframe and remember what things were like. So I'm just prefacing it with that
But at one of the packs east I was sick
Uh, and I didn't know about, you know
syrup at that time And I don't think, you know, I had enough to do anything like that, but I had uh
buckles Oh, boy, and oh
candy little uh sugar candy o-ring looking things
And before every major take I would take some buckles in an o-ring
And then I'd just go for it and I was just one shotting every single video
So every major take was essentially a whole video
And then we would we would go to the next one and then like I couldn't talk and then I would take some some buckles
and Eat the gummy so that I could get rid of the like cringe basically and then just send it and do another video
I thought you were just slamming lean. We we did basically you had a crazy. Yeah
I don't think it was enough to like actually do anything. Wow
Because I was just taking like little little bits. I don't I don't think there's enough. Um years later
I heard about that and was like, huh, that's just what you do
I wonder if that affected me. Um, I again, I don't think it was actually enough to to really do anything
You need very specific brands of coding sort of But you like I don't know anything about this and shut up. You couldn't understand
Me talking and I had to host videos and there wasn't really another solution. I wasn't going to not host the videos
So it was like, okay We're just doing it. I think what's like a crazy thing
I've missed because of being sick, but nothing comes to mind. I also just have a mind like a sieve
So who knows for certain things Hey everyone my company is currently running an insane cost savings program and cut our Microsoft office licenses to browser use only
What are your thoughts on cost savings that result in unproductivity? Well, they aren't really cost savings then are they? Yeah
You're shifting expenses
Um I mean it is a big decrease in cost, but it's a big decrease in cost of like 10 bucks a person
So per month Yeah, and it so it so it depends on like what you're doing. Um, it also depends like
Not to call you out in certain cases. It could be a user issue or like the browser thing might be fine
Now if you're doing advanced stuff with excel, that is not true
The local version just is better. Um, so I don't know for you. Maybe it is actually nerfing you
but you know, I think sometimes people just hate change
And there's a significantly cheaper way to do certain things and sometimes you just got to kind of catch up
I think both can be true. Um
Yeah, I can also understand like if an employer is
Better to cut office than to cut exactly if they're having a really hard time making ends meet for a while
And they're like well, then you might want to be pretty supportive of the cost saving measures that are that don't involve people
yeah, so like Trying to make it work. That's all I can really say
Hi DLL. I just built an mffpc with a btf motherboard. There are very few cases and even fewer motherboards that support this standard
What do you all think about the btf standard? Is it a dead tech? I hope it's not dead. I think it's kind of cool
um, it seems to be more of a thing in china than it is in north america, but um
I yeah, I guess we'll I guess the only only time will tell the good news is that if you buy a case
Um, oh most of the ones that I've seen that are back-to-front compatible with the rear connectors like on the back side
Uh are also compatible with regular boards So you can build a btf system now and then you can just put a regular motherboard in your case if it doesn't end up being a thing
So it's it's something that doesn't really cost anything to buy into
Other than just that it limits your case selection I think it's cool though
What's up with
Sorry, what's up with all these one-time drops recently like the dip die hoodie not having restocks
Um, also any plans to do classic t-shirts again. I don't know. I think we uh, I think we struggle sometimes especially with apparel to
um to turn one-time buys into run rate business
And uh, I think part of the problem has been that our skew mix got too broad for a while there
Part of the problem is that we still have a lot to learn about marketing that isn't just leveraging our social channels and our youtube channels
um But the reality of it is those items that
We sell through and then don't restock we don't restock because they
Just don't have the demand to sustain another
Order at the at the large minimum order quantities. I think people underestimate how many of something you have to order when you're not
Just like paying slave wages to some poor temmyu schlub
to to to effectively like carbon copy one-offs, you know like
Uh, we can't just make 30 of something. We we have to make 3 000 of something
So if if it takes us five months to move through them, we're not going to reorder them
I
Hi lld I think I remember luke mentioning the possibility of a creator warehouse gym bag any updates on whether this is still
He said he wanted one. Uh, we are not working on that right now. Why not?
Um, because we can only defend yourself. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine
Uh, hey lld as long as you spend all your time working on 12 shirts. Uh, hey lld my work
Did a team building exercise and got me thinking What's the most surprising thing you've learned about yourself since starting LTT and how has it impacted your choices from
for the brand
We're approaching We're not that far away
It's not that close, but we're not that far away from this being half of
our lives so Almost everything. Yeah, I mean most of my adult life is Linus media group now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
You know, it's kind of crazy to think about it that way, but it's totally true
More than half of my life is Yvonne era
and more than half of my adult life is
LMG era so, um
You had a career level job before this I didn't even this is my first career level job
This is technically my first job out of post-secondary
I think it's kind of cool that we think of it as a career level job now
You know, that wasn't how we felt about it in the early days. That is very true
Um, that's an achievement unlocked. I suppose
Yeah, man, what did we what did we learn about ourselves?
I had to I had a lot of growing up to do
Me too That was that was a big thing for me. I had to kind of like tear down a version of myself and sort of rebuild
Yeah, so I was like certain ways that I'm like reacting to things certain ways that I'm dealing with certain problems are just like not
cool Like I need to fix this and that was not the easiest thing in the world, but I think I more or less did it
Um, and that was largely driven by
work To be honest, I've definitely made observations
But I don't know how many of them I didn't know because to Luke's point
I had a job before like I even had like a somewhat of a leadership position before
I've definitely had a lot of things confirmed. I have I I don't suffer fools. Well, I uh
I'm can be a bit of a control freak. Those two things are
Pretty limited both of those though That wasn't a learning experience
Like a lot of the reason that we started LMG
I didn't want to work for someone who wasn't um you
a mentor And didn't I believe have the capacity to be a mentor
um Someone said you've previously previously shared that you get hype about big challenges. Yeah, but I already knew that
Yeah, um, yeah, he definitely knew that like a lot of
Core parts of who I am already already knew like I I would like to think that by the time you hit
Your 20s you kind of know who you are as a person. I've
In some ways learned to be way more patient and keep my cards closer to my chest
But in other ways, I've completely lost my patience because I've just seen everything so many times like
Like I can in in ways that only business owners
Can understand I have seen
I have seen so many train wrecks that the second
The locomotive goes on the rails
I know what's going to happen and it can be very frustrating for me
To watch everybody else Go let's see how it plays out. Um
You know you and and pain is nature's teacher, right? So
So I need to let it happen I've learned these lessons through pain and I understand that the only way other people can properly learn them is through pain
um, but it it can be exhausting to to not have people just
Listen, um But it doesn't work that way people have to learn for themselves and and what's frustrating
It's literally a management tactic where you have to kind of pick your battles there where if if you think
Okay, I am 99% sure this is going to fail. They really want to try it. I don't think the impact on this is going to be super big
Okay, and and what's really frustrating though is like as a business owner, right is that
They're their fail pain is not real
it's just like Oh, I am I am I am morale sad
It didn't hit their wallet, you know, they take home the same pay that day in a lot of cases
Um, there's also the equal and opposite of that though is when they have huge successes. It also doesn't hit their wallet
Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's that's the dynamic, right?
That's why that's why a lot of people decide to take the paycheck
And why fewer people decide to take the entrepreneurial path insulated from the ups and downs. Yep
Not entirely. Yeah, but day to day. Yeah in a in a big way
Okay
Next sure thing. Hey DLL. You all got me buying hoodies every week. Let's go
Uh, the phone pocket is so nice Who at LTT came up with it? And what other neat features have you creators come up with?
And uh, their dishwasher is still broken apparently. Oh, you should probably spend money on your dishwasher instead of an $80 hoodie, but um
Or how are they gonna wash $60 hoodie in a $20 t-shirt? Sorry. Sorry. Uh, I don't remember
um Hmm
Nick would probably remember but there is absolutely
No way that he is doing anything other than watching the fight right now and he does not want to talk to me right now
That's true. So, um, that's true. I don't know. It was Linus. We're gonna say it. I think it might have been me
But I'm not a hundred percent sure it comes from did the original land hoodie have it
Were we inspired from that? No, okay. I don't know. I could be wrong. I'm not sure
I could be wrong You know what I don't remember it might have been me. It might have been nick. It might have been loyed
It might have been just something we saw somewhere. I'm not sure
Howdy DLL faithful VOD listener here. I'm repainting my room soon and I'd like to know how you do edges
You said before that tape just slows you down. I'm curious how a master like you does it
I'm not a master. I'm just I have a reasonably steady hand and an ounce of common sense
That's painting and highly opinionated painting is not rocket surgery
Um, basically you dip about this deep into the paint. You whack it against the sides of the cans called bang loading
Um Don't worry about it. I'm saying nothing. You hold it like a pencil. I'm loading. Okay, so not like this
like this And then uh, you should be using a I think it's called a sash brush
so basically where it's like, uh
Where it goes down, but it's angled at the bottom And so you the the very longest part is the part that does the finest edge
And then you use the the shorter part to kind of put on the bulk of it
And then you just paint a paint a straight line Uh, I think the brush is something that I'd been missing for a long time
I didn't realize that there was a specific kind of angled brush that really helps with that
I know Yeah, that's good advice if you try and do that with just like a blunt slits square brush
You you're you're fucked like you you can't edge like that tools really help. Yes
And last one I got for you now Hey DLL I live in the u.s. And need to upgrade my GPU with the looming potential tariffs
Do you all think I should get the 4 000 series on black friday or still wait for the 5 000 series?
Literally green lit that video concept today. We're gonna have a full video coming on that. I think Elijah's working on it
That's all I got Well, then we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel. You're gonna go watch the fight at the watch party
Oh, no, you can't you got to go do bird minister Dan. You're gonna watch the fight
Uh, no, maybe are they upstairs? Maybe oh, they're in lab. Yeah, they're in lab. Cool. Y'all go say hi
all right
Good luck everyone see you again next week same bad time same bad channel
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