It's a good Friday, quality Friday, you might even say good Friday.
Thanks, Dan. All right, well, I think we all know what we have to talk about today.
Have you seen the way that Microsoft Outlook is performing today?
It's performing for the Artemis mission.
I just plain can't believe it. I can't actually explain the overwhelming wave of happiness that I felt when that happened.
I love that that scene from Space Forces can and now.
Did that seriously go over everyone's head?
No, I know an instrument.
I didn't ding the thing.
Nice.
Hey, I want that's with interest.
Nice.
All right.
Wait, what? How did this? How is it 440? What happened?
Okay, well, let's let's go live then.
Bloody hell, how are we late?
I'm hanging out. I was here the whole time.
You were to the washroom. Oh, that's true. I had to poop.
Yeah, sometimes nature calls, man.
You just gotta do what you gotta do.
I tried to do the AI call screening thing, but nature was like, nope.
Just poop.
I'm just getting I'm just getting right side again.
Oh, that's me. How the crap is that me? What just happened?
So that must be you then. Yeah, this is me.
Yeah, just right side again. Pretty sure. Hello. Hello. Yeah, just right side.
I can live with it. Whatever.
Oh, right.
Oh, it's like way quieter, I think.
Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. He's working on let him cook.
He's not even back in his chair yet. See, how is he possibly supposed to fix it?
He's not even back in the chair yet. Dan, get back in the chair faster.
Luke's impatient. I did not complain ever.
He's not even back in the chair yet. He's not even back in the chair yet.
Dan, get back in the chair faster. Luke's impatient.
I did not complain ever.
How about that? Okay.
I complained about a great many things.
Talking, talking. I can definitely hear monitoring.
I think it's from both sides. It's a little quiet, but I think it's from both sides.
I might just have a lot of earwax this week or something. Bernardo Baruch cannot watch us live today.
Oh, no. That blows, dude. I'm sorry.
Okay, we will have fun and take care of you too, Bernardo.
Can you hear both sides? No, I think so. Yeah, pretty sure.
That was a bad idea. Oh.
CatChitU says, oh, no plane stream.
We had fire truck stream. We also had fire truck stream.
We used it to cool a computer.
Nice. God, he's really sending it this week.
It's going to get worn out. You're going to break the bell.
Tom Scott's back. Yeah, Tom Scott was never going anywhere.
No, I know. Well, he said that.
Oh, okay. Most people didn't watch the whole video.
If you actually watched the whole video, he never intended to leave forever.
Yeah, I did not, too. He was back and he did a video on making bells
because, of course, it's Tom Scott. And it was interesting.
Cool.
I think I've actually seen MatPat at more events
since he retired than I did before he did as well.
Although he seems to actually be chilling out
in terms of just who knows.
Maybe he won't actually come back, come back. I think I said back when both of them retired
that it was just like, yeah, no. It's very temporary, I thought, for both of them.
They just seem like people that got to make, you know.
Both strike me that way. I don't...
I never followed MatPat's stuff as closely, so I don't know.
But yeah, I was rather certain.
You watching on YouTube or Nebula? YouTube.
That's wild. One week early access on Nebula
for a video announcing your return. No, no, no.
It's just his actual new video.
No, no, people are saying it was a week ahead on Nebula.
Yeah, but it's not a video announcing his return.
I thought he did. He has returned. Oh, maybe I just saw a tweet or something.
It's a full-format video. Yeah, I didn't watch the video. I saw a tweet or something then.
I think he also announced his return. Maybe that was a week early.
I have no idea. Apparently it was a head for both videos. Yeah.
Sure, whatever. Yeah, that's what... It's just wild to do like an announcement
and have early access for it. Because you'd think then it would like leak or something.
But I don't think I actually saw people talking about it until it hit YouTube.
I have no idea, man.
Cool.
Welcome back. As far as I'm concerned, you were never gone.
You don't really watch YouTube, so...
All right, should we do this thing?
Okay.
Yeah. Yeah, let's go.
Walls to the wall.
Hold on. Is there a lot of latency?
Yeah, well, just in light of recent events, I wanted to check if there's any jet lag.
It's going to be a long show. I'm going to die.
I'm not going to make it.
All right. Good news. Wanshoe ruined by excessive puns.
Linus is too boring. There's nothing to be mad about.
So he's just like turning every single thing into a pun.
What is life without chaos?
As far as villain arcs go, I think I could get behind that one.
It's not too bad. Good news, bad jokes.
Oh, that sounds like a podcast name. It really does, actually.
Oh, my God. Wow.
Can we rebrand the second time? The GNBJ.
It could be taken another way. Good night, BJ.
Yes. That was the joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, man. All right. We should really start.
Okay. Oh, wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So just signal me when we're live. We'll do this thing. What did we settle on for title again?
I don't remember. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Linux.
Okay, cool. I'm taking credit. Okay.
You guys both ready? Oh, yeah. You take credit.
Sorry. Sorry. That was my bad.
I started it.
What's up, everybody, and welcome to the WAN Show.
Happy Friday.
We're going to take off by starting with...
Sorry. Sorry. It's going to be a rough one.
Despite it being a good news WAN Show. A turbulent show.
Oh, my God. We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week.
It is officially the first week of Good News April.
Yes. So with some exceptions, it's all good news all the time on the WAN Show, and we're starting
with the Steam survey saying that Linux is up by over double its previous market share.
Now, that might... Kind of. Well, yeah, we'll have to get into a little bit more detail, but hey, hold on a second.
Other fantabulous spectacular news, DDR5 pricing in China seems to be facing a, this
is a quote, complete collapse due to changes in the market.
Thank God. Is this finally some good news for gamers who just want a little bit more memory?
Can we build computers again? That would be cool.
I'd be so down. I'd be super down.
What else we got? Oh, yeah, I'm definitely prepared for this.
Not only are RAM prices dropping because of a particular reason, but also Google's Turboquant
AI compression algorithm can reportedly reduce LLM inference memory usage by like six times.
Yeah, to like one-sixth. Which is crazy.
A six times reduction or a one-sixth non-reduction.
Yeah. I'll take one more quick.
Professional show. Artemis 2. Oh, yeah.
You're such a space geek. I can't believe we haven't talked about this yet.
There's a few topics relating to that, so I'm just going to say that in general.
Yeah, Artemis 2. My favorite one is Outlook.
What? Where did this come from?
I have a little rabbit hat?
Why? This is so short.
The show is brought to you today by Dbrand. Oh, dude, Squarespace and Good Lord, I missed the last one.
Oh, man. Proton mail alongside, sorry.
Our chair partner, Razer. Our laptop partner, also Razer, and our rap partner, Dbrand.
Who made that? It was probably Noki. Yeah.
That makes sense. Had to have been Noki. That was amazing.
That's crazy. That was some art.
I had no idea that was coming. That was art.
All right. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic, which is, of course, the Steam Survey.
So here, let's fire it up here.
And I just want to open by saying that over one month ago, three people started a Linux
challenge. Here we are just over one month later, and Linux Market Share has jumped.
Where's the bloody operating system part?
There it is. Okay. Operating system.
No, not OS version. Good Lord. We've actually played with this in a while.
Click for more info. Where's the damn thing?
Here we go. Linux Market Share has jumped by 3.1% to 5.33, with Arch, by the way, leading the way.
Mint in second place. Ubuntu in third.
Mint again in fourth. Ubuntu again in fifth.
And Manjaro bringing up the rear.
A few of those could condense it a little bit.
Let's talk about the real reasons, because obviously it's not because we're doing the
Linux challenge. Something like this might have happened.
One, maybe some sampling bias.
The Steam Hardware Survey is not a complete capture every month of every system with
Steam installed on it. Apparently, I'm reading on foronix.com, and if we tune in here a little bit, you can
see that it was dropping, actually.
Steam on Linux ended 2025 around 3.5%, dipped in January, dipped in February, and then kind
of slammed back up. And that might be where that sampling bias is from, or something like that.
I'm not really sure. However, however. Overall, though, it's up.
Overall, though, it seems like the trajectory we're on is pretty good.
And 5.33% is pretty good.
Those are real numbers. Yeah.
That's like a user base that you care about now. Yeah.
And I mean, look. It's not massive, but it's pretty good.
I talked about this back when Valve launched the Steam Deck, is I went like, look, if they
sell enough of these things, game developers will simply not be able to afford to ignore
it. And Man, is it starting to feel like the critical mass is there?
Like, there are certain game devs that have just come out and said, we will never support
Linux, just because of kernel-level anti-cheat is essential to our business model and our
way of life. And therefore, it is simply never going to happen.
And you know what? There's going to be a lot of platforms that they can continue to develop for.
Windows, they can continue to develop for a console.
I actually, I don't know the status of anti-cheat on macOS.
Like legitimately, I just... I don't know either.
Anyone know anything about that? What I do know is Arc Raiders works on Linux.
I just keep running into games. Like last week on the show, it was brought up that I was thinking like, well, I'm going
to need a Windows VM or something to play Horizon when it comes out, Forza Horizon.
And then the chat was like, no, you're fine, dude.
And then one of my buddies messaged me and was like, hey, man, we should play Arc Raiders
again. And I was like, yeah, I don't know. Doing this Linux challenge thing.
Give me a sec. And I looked it up. Platinum.
It's like, oh, okay. Never mind. I don't know if I've talked about this on Wanshow, but I wrote a big chunk about it in my notes
for Elijah for the upcoming parts of Linux challenge.
We know we owe you guys some videos on that. We have all been using Linux and we've all been making notes.
I'm still on there. But one of the things that I wrote was that I think a huge part of the hurdle for people
is that they have in their minds that Linux is replacing Windows for them.
And in a lot of ways it is because it's fulfilling a similar role in their life.
But hear me out. What if there could be a change in perspective or a change in mindset where instead of thinking
about Linux as a replacement for Windows, we think about it as more of like an appliance,
more of like a console from a gaming standpoint, from a gaming standpoint, right?
Because that's the perspective of the Linux challenge is like, as a gamer, can I switch
to Linux? And if you alter your perspective in that way, all of a sudden you stop thinking, what
are the Windows games I can't play? What are the PC games that my PC can't play?
And you start thinking more like an Xbox or a PlayStation gamer from back before everything
was cross-platform or whatever. You kind of go, okay, rather than these are the PC games I can't play, these are the Linux
games that are available for my console.
I run a Linux console. And to be clear, cross-platform is a very good thing.
It's a good thing for consumers. Greater compatibility is a good thing for consumers.
I'll always support both of those things. But if you're looking to make a change when full, complete, cross-compatibility of every
software forever doesn't yet exist, if you could just flip that little switch in your
brain, do you think way more people could just make the shift?
Yeah, I think so. I think for some people there's killer apps. I think killer apps are actually more important than people realize.
I think Halo being really good was why Xbox mattered and then Halo not being very good
anymore is why, in a lot of cases, Xbox doesn't matter anymore.
So if your killer app is compatible, then it's probably fine.
I was really surprised to see that ArcGraders was totally chill.
But there are shooters out there.
If you're into Counter-Strike, that also works. But I don't think Valorant does.
So if you're into Valorant, this console is not going to be one that you would want.
So same argument. It's completely fine, but it's just not going to work for you.
I think that argument is fine. It just, yeah, like I said, you fall back on the killer app thing.
And I think, if my experience is anything to go by, you might be surprised your stuff
might work just fine because even your game might have anti-cheat and it might just not
be kernel level and thus be fine. Like there is a lot of anti-cheat stuff that works on Linux.
It's fine. I'm going to say something kind of toxic Linux net computer here.
Yes, killer apps are totally a thing. And I get that.
But from a gaming standpoint, do you really need to play that game?
This is interesting because I suspect if we go back a decent amount of WAN shows, I think
you've said the opposite in the past, but you've been probably interested in enjoying
your Linux experience enough that you've been slipping now.
It's, you know what? I wrote a couple paragraphs about this as well.
It's less that I'm enjoying Linux so much and it's more that...
I know where you're going and I totally agree.
Microsoft is actively pushing me away. Yeah.
And Microsoft is actively pushing me away and the Linux experience has gotten so much
better since the last time we tried it. There's still a lot of friction for me anyway.
I'm experiencing actively experiencing friction on Linux daily still.
I had to a little bit this past week, but it was solvable.
But I was shooting an AMD Ultimate tech upgrade earlier this week and it was actually for one
of our members of the business team, Sven.
He lives in the coolest mom's basement of all time. Seriously.
At one point in the video, I'm just like, dude, our audience is going to hate you.
And he's like, why? I'm like, because you have so much cool shit.
Like seriously, it is like the best.
It's so cool. And he even has a girlfriend.
He's got his CRT, all his modern consoles, all his vinyls, all his collectibles, a girl
like he's living his best life. And I think people are just going to, I don't think people can handle it right now.
Anyway, so you guys should watch the video because Sven's energy is he's just kind of
like low key cool. No, he's still. And we had a really great time shooting together.
But where was I going? This right.
So we swapped out his motherboard and CPU because the series is obviously sponsored by AMD.
It's AMD ultimate tech upgrade. So we threw a 9800 X3D in there and to go with his, he didn't upgrade his GPU, but like
that's fine. You could still get some more FPS. And we went to fire up the machine so we could just get some b-roll of him, gaming, vibing,
enjoying his new system and fucking Microsoft.
It did the thing where it's like your pin is not available right now.
What are you talking about? What does that even mean?
Can you like, imagine it, imagine I roll up at the bank, okay, I'm at the Costco.
I don't have a mastercard. I pull up my debit card, which is my last resort, cut my life into pieces and I put it
in the machine. It goes, sorry, sir, your pin's not available right now.
What the fuck does that mean? That doesn't mean anything.
So we're going through this and we had to switch which network adapter we were plugged
into so we could get an internet connection so that he could log into his Microsoft account
with his actual password and then do his 2FA and then put his pin and it's like, bro,
this is my computer. I'm trying to use it, you know?
Get out of my way. And Microsoft just can't.
Yeah. It can't help it.
Yeah, like so the thing that I ran into this, actually, before we forget, I want to jump
back to this, on Pharaonix again, they pointed out that part of the jump appears to be because
Valve corrected for Steam China numbers. So simplified Chinese went down by 31.85%.
And then that shifted a lot of other things because of those users being removed from
the survey and that, I guess, indirectly resulted in Linux numbers jumping.
So pirated Windows is more popular than not pirated Windows is what I'm reading here.
Because if you take out a market that, I mean, we all know software piracy in China kind
of a thing. Huge, yeah.
All of a sudden the appeal of Windows goes way down when you go to the more Western markets
where piracy might not be quite as rampant. Is Steam Deck significantly more popular in Western countries and not China, basically?
Because a Steam Deck, at least at the beginning, was not your only computer, right?
It's a superfluous, it's a luxury purchase.
Even though it's, look, I've talked extensively about this in the past.
It is a heck of a machine for the price that Valve managed to do it at, like serious kudos
to them for making it so accessible. But it is a luxury purchase.
Its sole reason for existing was to play games on a teeny tiny little screen.
If I lived somewhere that I didn't have Western income, then it would be less likely for me
to buy something like that versus the one computer that I probably already have.
So, yeah, no, I could see the Steam Deck being less popular. I also don't know if it launched in China at the beginning.
I have no idea. No idea.
Yeah, it's interesting. Now back to the Linux challenge stuff.
I had an experience where we were kind of talking about this a little bit earlier, but both
of my hard drives- Oh, never is the answer. It has never had an official direct release in mainland China.
So regardless of its status as a luxury purchase or not, it just doesn't exist there.
So it's probably not contributing to the numbers at all. Okay, cool.
Carry on, sorry. Both of my hard drives are dying.
I had some indication that this might have been starting a while ago.
The hard drive started to get a little bit louder, but it wasn't that bad. And then within the last week, cries of pain started happening.
I was explaining to Emma that I had to buy annoyingly expensive hard drives, and I was
complaining about it. She was like, well, do you have to right now?
And I was like, here, come with me. And then I walked over to my computer and was just like, just listen.
Almost nothing's even happening right now. And just listen.
And she's like, oh yeah, you need those now. She doesn't even know anything about computers.
And she's like, there's just no way that's right. It sounds like there's a tiny hammer in my computer.
It's just not good.
And part of that process was that I started moving a bunch of data around because I'm like,
okay, well, you know, I don't have like super mission critical stuff on here.
It's mostly a game drive and then a like dump drive that I just do random tasks on.
But there are things on here that would kind of suck to lose. So let's make sure I shuffle stuff around.
And if these do die before the new drives come in, or if they die during a day to transfer
to the new drives or whatever, I'm going to feel less bad about it.
And in doing that, I wanted to format one of the drives because I have also read.
Up until now, I have kept my game drive exactly as it was when I was on Windows,
meaning my game drive was NTFS.
But I have read that proton struggles with NTFS a lot.
I've read that too. So I was like, okay, I don't actually know how to pronounce it.
Some people have laughed at me pronouncing it this way. But my OS is drive, is ButterFS, BTRFS.
I've heard it called ButterFS. Is that wrong? You might have heard that from me. I've heard better FS as well.
But that seems probably like a fanboy nickname. I just thought it was funny to call it ButterFS.
I'm using ButterFS. Whatever.
That thing is my OS drive. But I was looking into some stuff, trying to learn some things.
And it sounded like for a game drive, I don't necessarily care that much about roll backs
and stuff on. Like the reasons why I wanted to do it for my operating system drive.
It's less important. So I went with EXT4. And trying to do that.
Was pretty annoying. I'm just going to be honest.
The process was pretty annoying. Even like, I did a huge transfer off of one of the drives to another.
And I just copy and pasted in the GUI. And then I noticed just like, visually, that like, I don't think all the files are there.
And then I did some diving and like, a ton of the files didn't get transferred.
And I started looking into it. And the pronoun to answer was like, why are you using a GUI for this?
And I'm like, bruh. It's copy and pasting files.
Come on. I can imagine there being cooler, better ways.
But I shouldn't have to command line R-sync to just copy and paste some folders from one
drive to another. Yeah.
And then I went through that and like, I don't love that experience, but it's fine.
I can do it. I just, I shouldn't have to. It was funny.
I actually cheated during the Linux challenge because I had to transfer some files.
And they were coming off of an SD card that was just in a random device.
It was in a tentacle sink, an audio recorder.
And my Linux laptop, when I was on vacation, like absolutely diary it all over itself,
trying to read and copy it. Like it was really scary.
It, it, it not only like didn't work to copy it, but it like told me it was corrupted.
And it 100% wasn't, I put it in Yvonne's laptop, her Windows laptop.
And it just immediately worked. And I was able to upload it to drive. And I suspect it's down to the file system that was on it.
It definitely could be. And I had that same suspicion as well.
And then I tried command line R-sync.
It also didn't work. Really? Yeah.
Same thing happened. Certain files didn't get transferred. See, this is something that I've always found.
And okay, I'm probably going to reveal some sort of horrible ignorance that people will
mock me for, but hey, it's the WAN Show, baby.
This is something that I have never really understood.
Why is doing it through a GUI different?
For something like file copies, why does it not just do the exact same thing
behind the GUI? Why does it matter if I drag them like this or I type the thing like this?
It was, I'm just going to address chat really quick. It wasn't file ownership permissions.
I think it was just erroring often. I think maybe due to something with NTFS, I'm getting into areas that I don't understand.
But the way that I was able to solve it was I instead of transferring the entire drive at
once, I went through and did one major folder at a time, GUI, and it worked fine.
I just had to like kind of baby it. And then I got everything.
It just kind of sucked. I couldn't do the whole thing at once. But yeah, I mean, I can understand there's a lot of little options and tweaks and things like
Arsync has a lot of control over how you want to do the transfer and stuff.
But then like, shouldn't it probably assume? Do you want it to ignore certain errors?
Do you want it not to? Shouldn't it probably assume the way I want it to do the transfer is to
get the files from here to there for the most part?
I don't know.
I was pretty surprised by that problem. All right. I do suspect it's just like Linux not playing nice with NTFS.
Okay. And then once the drive was on EXT4, I did not have similar problems.
Okay. So I haven't used it extensively yet, but I suspect it's just like,
okay, I'm trying to bring my Windows drives around with me still.
And my initial very light amount of research being like,
can I just leave everything how it was on Windows was like, the answer was yes.
And clearly it worked for over a month. So it is kind of yes.
But it's more yes, asterisk, there might be some problems.
Yes, temporarily. Yes, kind of like when I downloaded that beta build of Bazlight with the Steam Deck experience
for NVIDIA, where it was like, yes, but it probably should have had a much larger asterisk.
And it does now. So no one will make the same mistake that I did.
I took Fig Newt and says, even within Windows, I only do parts of libraries at a time.
The file transfer f's up all the time. I don't have that experience, to be completely honest.
It depends. I know it's like a thing that can happen, but I have not run into that.
With the slower your device, and I mean both the storage and compute,
the more chance that it will just like trip over itself and bung itself up.
Windows Explorer is not the most stable piece of software on the face of the earth.
I think that's a non-controversial take.
So I can totally see that. And I have to give it credit of once I finished the whole process, which was pretty annoying,
but once I finished the whole process and got it onto EXT4, then everything seemed to be fine.
But you said your drives were dying, definitely could have contributed to the errors.
Yeah, I would have liked it to have been handled better though.
I might have missed something, I don't know. I think what happened-
That was such a good Karen line. I'm going to use that someday. I might have missed something.
I would have liked for it to have been handled better. Yeah.
No, but I mean by that, when I did the file transfer thing,
if it did error, if there was problems, it should just tell me.
I did the transfer, but I missed 100,000 files,
because that's the magnitude to which it was off. You missed 100,000 of the shots you didn't take.
And if it could tell me, hey, these folders got transferred fine,
these top-level folders got transferred fine, that would have been nice to know too. I wonder if the same developer went to work on Apple's transfer to iOS feature.
It just misses it. Did I ever show you the screenshots from that that I got,
where it's like 40,000 files and it transferred like two dozen or something like that?
I think you did. Why did you even try at that point? You should have just not bothered.
But yeah, so I think using...
I even heard from people who are like hyperlinux-pilled and been using Linux for freaking 20 years,
and I asked them about the NTFS thing and they're like, I mean, it's probably fine, but they haven't used it, because why would they?
I think that's something that is easy for superlinux-pilled people to miss,
is that there's a lot of things that... It's the curse of knowledge, right?
That they know and intuitively do that is best practice on Linux,
and that someone did a workaround just in case you don't do it that way.
But it hasn't been validated. It hasn't been tested across every distro.
It hasn't been tested across every desktop environment. It hasn't been tested across every dumb user.
Sorry, I should have pointed it myself. I need accounts.
And it hasn't been tested across every hardware config, right? I even think...
I have a tinfoil hat fully on.
My drives were dying already. I think the Linux challenge accelerated it.
Interesting. Because I would both die at the same time.
Both started dying. The games drive is the main one having problems,
but both have bad sectors, but the games drive has like four times the bad sectors is the other one.
Okay, but would anything about your file system being not
Linux compatible make it flash more? Here's the thing is apparently Proton doesn't play nice with NTFS,
and it's the games drive that is suffering more than the other one.
Now, the games drive just gets more use and always did. So I don't know how fair this is, and I could just be completely off.
Because he's a gamer, folks. He's a gamer, ladies and gentlemen. But there's like, you know, Slay the Spire 2.
Yeah. So that's a smaller, slower game. So, okay, that can be installed on my hard drive games drive.
That's been open a lot. Right, right, right, right, right.
So has Proton been thrashing more because it doesn't play nice with NTFS?
Literally don't know. I have literally no idea, but I have a thought.
Have you pulled the smart data? I have. I haven't dove really deep into it.
I just know that there are bad sectors. The Linux NTFS driver is reverse engineered and barely works.
The stuff Proton tries to do with it will 100% cause file system corruption.
Says on a high-kidge. Yeah. So that was not, when I did my not enough research and I'm accepting that,
I basically Googled, can I keep my Windows NTFS drive on Linux to play games?
And it was like, yeah. Okay. And you know what's really funny is because as much as I got for settling on PopOS after
Googling it and asking an LLM, I actually did find that.
I knew that, which is why I did a completely fresh install on every single one of my systems
and didn't try to keep any of my games drives. Yeah, yeah. Even though I do have one.
And to be clear. I was just like, I'm not going to use this because, and, oh, sorry, go ahead.
It was fine. Except when it wasn't. For a month.
How much did it cost you? Maybe a drive. Well, no, the drives were already going down.
The drives already had bad sectors. It was like, I just didn't think it was quite time to replace them yet.
They're really big drives. So them having a few bad sectors is like not the end of the world.
It might have accelerated it. I was going to have to replace them anyways.
And like it did function. So they were right about it functioning.
Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. Also, another thing that I did this week, I talked about how I might want to do this.
I removed my desktop environment and installed a new one.
Yeah, I saw, I came across a funny thread somewhere.
I forget why I was even reading about this, but it was like,
can we stop calling them distros? A distro is just the desktop environment, and it's this,
and it's a package manager, and it's this, and it's this. And they're all interchangeable anyway, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, okay, okay, okay, Captain Pedantic.
I mean, you want to go full pedant.
Then you kind of have to come full circle around to what even is the Linux operating system?
It's a desktop environment and a package manager.
It's all these things. So like, you wouldn't have, you can't just call the Linux kernel,
the Linux operating system. In order to be an operating system, it has to like,
it has to have all these things. So no, Uno reverse.
Is that true? It doesn't need a desktop environment. Okay, it doesn't need a desktop environment.
This is where the- It doesn't need a package. Pedantic stuff comes in. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.
Okay, hold on. What does it need? It's going to need something.
So now we're coming all the way back around. No!
Defeated. Amazing. But yeah, that, it's funny because like fighting through NTFS was really annoying.
Right. And then I came out on the other end and I haven't used my computer since I did that enough to like really know,
but it seems like it's actually a lot better in a few ways. And now my hard drive is just like dead.
But oh well, it was already dying. It is what it is.
Replacing my entire desktop environment was so easy.
But I just, I was actually just like stunned.
It was wild. Well, I know uninstalling it is easy.
You could do that without even meeting to do it at all.
But yeah, I can. I mean, maybe you're not that good. Oh, wow.
Yeah, that's, that's fair. So I replaced, I got rid of cinnamon and it's like gone.
I completely removed it. Yep. I kept Hyperland, but I'm not actively really using it.
And I installed KDE. And I am now even more strongly of the opinion
that if you just want your thing to be smooth and to work,
you should probably install Mint and Cinnamon.
KDE is sick and I'm happy it's on my desktop.
And I think I'm also happy it's not on my laptop.
Mint and Cinnamon is just such, I'm like not surprised.
It's interesting because it doesn't really get talked about that much. Like if you look into the, what should I run right now on computers?
Everybody is going, yeah, screw you, Dan. Everybody is going, oh, run like Bazite or Cache and run, you know, KDE on top of them.
And then we look at the Steam hardware survey and like a lot of it's Mint.
Yep. And Arch. Arch is up there and Arch is Cache and Steam OS,
which is where a ton of that is coming from. But I think just the like ease, man.
Like there's things, I really have enjoyed KDE so far. It feels like the correct choice on my laptop.
It feels like the correct choice to go along with Cache. Sorry, correct choice on my desktop.
It feels like the correct choice to go on with Cache. The things that I'm trying to do on my desktop, KDE has been fantastic.
I really like the experience. But like it doesn't feel like the, if you want,
it depends on what you're min-maxing for. If you're min-maxing for less problems, you just kind of want things to work.
You want the tools to just kind of be there. You want it to feel like what you're used to and you come from Windows.
Mint and Cinnamon is just a fantastic combo. It's honestly just amazing.
My laptop never has any problems.
It is completely rock solid heart touching. It's amazing.
Why don't we talk about some other amazing news? Sure. It's all good news this week.
Yeah. How about KDE's base?
It's just they're more bleeding edge. They're more performance pushing, all that kind of stuff.
And that comes with some fairly minor problems, ones that I'm happy to deal with on my desktop.
But yeah. How about some good news for consumers who might have been looking to build or upgrade a PC?
Want to talk about that? Yeah. DDR5 pricing in China faces, this is a quote from, I think it's WCCF tech said this,
faces a complete collapse with shifting markets.
Let's go. This has mainly seemed to have been triggered by the release of Google's turbo quant.
Really? The timing doesn't look like a coincidence.
However, I actually recorded a whole LTT video yesterday that was just like a,
it was kind of a spur of the moment. I have some thoughts on this, where I look at sort of a longer term trend
that we can trace back to like all the way back to about mid to three quarters of the way through
last year of the bubble kind of already starting to unravel to mix my metaphors up a little bit.
I think that turbo quant kind of like when deep seek landed is just,
it's really headline grabbing and it's taken the fears that are already in the backs of
of memory suppliers minds about like whether this whole thing is actually really going to
go to the moon forever Artemis style and it has caused, it has taken that fear and brought it
to the front of the mind and turned it into panic a little bit. I thought, I'm like, I don't know, but I thought it was the Sam Altman comments,
them not following through on their rampage. Well, they happened right around the same time.
Yeah. So it's like, it's like, it's like, Definitely a combo.
It's, it's definitely a combo. Taiwan outlet UDN reports that RAM prices in China have dropped more than 30%.
And there are even some signs that prices are dropping in the US as well.
As part of the video that I was working on yesterday, here we go.
Okay, look, is it back to normal yet?
No, but guys, don't bite a progress gift horse in the mouth.
Okay. I do worry a little bit that it's going to be kind of like the GPU situation where the price
went up and then they were just like, yeah. Well, here's the thing though.
I think people are actually just not buying stuff right now. GPUs are effectively a monopoly.
NVIDIA just decides how much a certain amount of FPS costs and then AMD and to a lesser extent,
Intel, I actually really respect what Intel has done and how scrappy they've been trying
to make arc battle mage appealing and make it make sense for gamers at a reasonable budget.
But AMD certainly basically just goes, oh, yes.
Yes, NVIDIA, thank you for determining what GPUs are worth in the market.
Yes, sir. And they just kind of price their GPUs and lockstep with NVIDIA.
Whereas RAM has actual competition to a degree.
Have there been some price fixing scandals over the years?
Yes. But at the end of the day, all of the major players building out large fabs with huge
capacity that have to run and therefore are commodified effectively, meaning that if demand
drops, pricing will drop. Also, yes, RAM is a commodity still.
There is competition still. And so in the exact same way that we've seen it spike before,
I think we will absolutely see it crash again.
There's no question whatsoever. That's good to hear.
And as part of the video yesterday, I was also looking at a couple of other regions.
I looked at Canada. Canada actually started dipping a little bit before the States.
Germany has started dipping as well. So I didn't look too far beyond that because I kind of went, okay, well, China, Germany,
Canada, US, that gets me around the world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clearly this isn't just one retailer running a promo at that point.
None of this means that the shortage is over. None of this means that pricing is going to immediately go back to where it was.
There has objectively been an uptick in data center spending on hardware
that will impact pricing to a certain degree. Yep. And the AI build out is not going to stop.
Yeah. But one of the things I get into in the video is
how I think that it won't necessarily just continue to flywheel completely out of control.
Because it seems like the bean counters are finally kind of going,
hold on a second, how many beans are left?
Can we really afford to trade all of our beans for computer memory?
And I, for one, am extremely excited for five years from now when all of these data centers
are out of date and make absolutely no sense to keep running with energy pricing being what it is.
And I can get like a couple cool AI cards and put them in like smashchamps for like
cool computer vision. Yeah, some of those AI cards are weird.
Yeah, but I mean, they should do AI, right? I don't know if they're going to slot into your desktop computer though.
I don't, it doesn't need to be a desktop computer. Oh, okay. I mean, look, they're going to be dismantling these things.
Who's going to take them? Yeah, that'll be really interesting. Like, man, that's another video I want to make.
What is the format of those GPUs that are like a tower?
What is that called? Oh, for crying out loud. I forget what it's called. We saw it on the recent NVIDIA data center tour.
Yeah. Someone, someone tell me what they're called. SM something.
S, SXM, SXM. SXM, yeah.
Those cards like... But here's the thing. I don't know what you're talking about.
Okay, so did I talk on Wansho already?
I can never tell the difference between when I talked about something on Wansho
and when I did a video scrum and laid out an outline for a topic.
Sure. So stop me if I've talked about this before, but a major tragedy right now is the way that
data center hardware no longer trickles down to consumers.
Like remember how buying a couple generation old Xeon was like the hack to getting a sick gaming
desktop? What am I looking at here?
Was this an adapter? Yo. Okay, yeah. So that's a thing.
All right. I'm a little more excited about the future now.
That's sick. I did. Okay. Did I talk about this already?
Okay. I talked about this already, but one of the things that will happen because it has to
go somewhere, like these giant just money is no object data centers full of tens and tens
and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of GPUs.
Like it's not like they're just going to, you know, grind them up to make their bread.
Like they're going to do something with them. And so I think HomeLab is going to have an absolute like revolution in five years.
Dude, an absolute revolution in five years.
Dude, an absolute revolution in five years. Dude, an SXM to PCIe adapted data center card in my house sounds freaking sweet.
Yeah. That sounds awesome. Yeah. Why only one?
And the RAM. Yeah. That sounds like fun tinker. Oh, well, the space might be different.
The RAM will be salvageable. The RAM will be salvageable. Browser card? I bet you could liquid cool it.
So you don't have to deal with the noise because these things are like up to like 800
or even more wide. They're insane, dude.
Yeah, they're crazy.
Mr. O. Mutt says Wendell's going to buy it all.
I don't know, man. Wendell, Wendell, Wendell's pretty, he likes to be on the cutting edge.
I think he might just have the newer stuff at that point.
Mineral oil cooling would be super cool, John Br.
But yeah, I'm. It's a lot of wattage to mineral cool. It's, I'm excited, I'm super excited.
And I think it's, I think it's, I think it's happening.
I, and. Yeah. Well, I think we're starting to.
I'm really glad because I've taken kind of a, this is temporary stance on this.
And I've kind of taken some flak for that.
I thought it was going to take longer than this. Why aren't you advocating for consumers more?
Why don't you see Micron pulling out of the consumer market as like this terrible,
terrible, terrible thing? And I guess it's just because I've been through so many cycles.
Like RAM, RAM is like this, man.
It's always up and down and up and down. And this time it was, it was kind of, it was like a big cycle.
Like this was, and, and it really, it happened really suddenly.
Maybe that's, and it was a really awful timing. Right in the holiday season, man.
Like it just, there were so many things about it that just sucked. Yeah.
I, at the same time though, like, I don't know, I, I do think it's a signal.
I am very hopeful, all that kind of stuff. But like if we look at, people have been talking about Micron's stock price.
Yeah. If we look at Micron, they're, they're, they're, they're one year.
Yeah. 392%, year to date, 16%, six months, 94%.
But Tulip Mania happened over a span of half a decade though.
Over the last month, they're only three and a half percent now. These things, okay, but, but, but remember once, once Tulips started to fall.
No, I hear you. Like here, here, this, this screenshot, this screenshot is actually,
I just don't, I'm not a hundred percent convinced it's happening right now.
This screenshot is in, is in the video.
Yeah. Tulip bulbs, 1699 Canadian.
Once they started to crash, once the house of cards starts to collapse,
it happened, it can happen really fast. Apparently this didn't make it into the video because I just read it last night.
But just because a company's not a public company,
doesn't mean that shares can't be traded. And apparently this is Scuttlebutt, but apparently open AI shares are becoming
quite illiquid, quite difficult to sell.
And one of the things that I kind of lay out is that I see open AI as a very drop box like
character in this, in this new version of, of the same
movie we've watched over and over and over again. Dropbox was, was a first mover and a huge name in cloud storage in the early days of
the cloud. Back when, back when that was the, the stupid keyword du jour that you couldn't
see a slideshow without having it plastered all over everything, right?
Yeah. And what they did was the classic Silicon Valley playbook, they got a bunch of money,
they used it to acquire an enormous user base and they focused on, you know, one
admittedly super cool and innovative thing. And then they tried to convert that user base to a paid user base.
It didn't go too great. And then the incumbents, the big players, ultimately ate their lunch.
And I mean, show of hands, who has the Dropbox app installed on their computer or phone?
Anyone? I think your hand can be up because we use it for like, scripts or something, right?
Bueller? Not anymore. Oh. Dan, Dan apparently has dropped, you still use Dropbox.
I do. What do you like about it?
I used to use it more before I had the NAS. God, got him.
The internal sync was great. I don't know. It's just, it's just good.
Yeah. Quality product. It's just fine. Nothing wrong with it? Nope.
But there's also no question that. Do you pay for it? Yeah.
Apple and Google and Microsoft have overall won that war.
And so I see open AI as being in a very similar kind of position where they were a first mover,
a very early mover, a big innovator, great brand presence, huge user base.
But are they really going to take that and go from losing billions and billions of
dollars a quarter to making billions and billions of dollars a quarter?
Really? Yeah. Or is it going to be Google?
No, Dropbox is not that cheap.
No, because it isn't, right? It never was. It was always, the whole thing was always fake.
It was always VC money subsidizing you to have it for cheap so that you could get locked in later.
It's, it's, whether it's Dropbox or Uber or fricking Adobe.
Well, actually no, in that case, it was just Adobe's giant boatloads of money from selling
expensive software that they converted into even giant boatloads of money from selling
subscriptions. That was a different model, slightly different.
Yeah. Yeah. Discord is another example from Pankrats in the chat.
So because of, because of all of these, this, this really does, the video does, I admit,
have a little bit of like string on a bulletin board energy, but I'm just seeing a lot of
signals. And there are signals the other way, like NVIDIA's only down a little.
Yeah. Google's only down a little, right?
And I, and I, and I point out these things, like there are ones that are, that, you know,
their stock prices is not impacted in any way.
NVIDIA's, I guess they're down, okay.
Yeah, relatively. Not the last five days, but over the last six months, one month, yes.
Compared to like Oracle, and then there was another one that I, that I was using as kind of
like a proxy for AI companies as well. And, and, but the difference is that the companies that are only down a little have real
revenue. Yeah. And like real businesses, other than just like, rah, rah, rah, AI, what if you gen, what if
you put AI in your video so that you could make video with AI?
And what if you did AI in your butt and then your butt could be intelligent?
Like, like just everything's AI, just put every AI in everything.
Like it's, like NVIDIA has an identity other than AI.
And so does a company like, like Alphabet. I feel like I need a South Park episode on butt AI.
I mean, do you know for sure they haven't done one? I didn't watch the entire last season.
It's, it's possible. It's just like the sort of thing they might do.
We go all the way back to season one, episode one, and the aliens just put AI in his butt
instead of a big satellite dish. What, what do you want to jump to now?
You know what? I'd like to take a moment and say to everyone who is upset about Good News WAN Show month,
don't worry, it's temporary. We're going to, we're going to go back to just kind of doing everything after April.
But so far, it's been kind of nice. I'm actually having way more fun.
Yeah, I'm not like angry. Yeah.
I really like Good News WAN Show so far. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm, I'm, I feel happier today because we're doing Good News WAN Show.
Want to pick something? Yeah. Do you feel more excited to pick a topic?
Yeah, kind of. Me too. Yeah. Like I scrolled through and saw a few options I wanted to talk about and landed on one that like
felt in, very in tone with what you were just saying. Where's the last, when's the last time that happened?
It's a very long time. No, but really. And I'm not even, I'm not even using a cop out and talking about Artemis.
Think about that. That's crazy. I found another topic.
It sounds really fun to talk about. That's actually unhinged. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah, do it then. Someone made a website for scheduling play sessions to revive old multiplayer games.
Okay. Called Game Date. This is so cool.
This I, this isn't necessarily new, but I don't think we've talked about on WAN Show before.
YouTuber Batty, Batty built Game Date.
I think it's just YouTuber Batty. B-A-T-T-Y.
Built Game Date. Free anonymous scheduling platform for dead or underpopulated multiplayer games.
People are already scheduling sessions for things like Unreal Tournament 2004,
Battlefront II, like the original one I'm assuming,
Crisis Wars and Blur. Oh, cool. Yeah.
The site recently added a full discussion board with image board style features,
including green text, quote links, and a smugglers den section specifically for surfacing useful info
like server IPs, mods, patches, fans translations, stuff like that to like improve the experience.
And that's, you know, normally buried in private discord servers, but it's now easier to access.
And also it looks amazing.
Discuss. Is this not so freaking cool?
So cool, dude. I think that's awesome because one of the big problems with these old games is they go in a
self-fulfilling death spiral where there's a few less people on every time,
and the server that you like jumping on, nobody's there, so you don't log on.
And nobody's at exactly the same level as you. So no one else logs on, and then it just kind of spirals down.
And this way you can kind of just spark some fun experiences playing some old games,
because a lot of these old multiplayer games are still awesome.
They just don't have the mass that they used to have. Yeah, the snowball.
Yeah. And I love that you brought up the issue with useful information being buried in a discord,
because... That's from the doc, but yeah. I know, but I'm glad you brought it up because we actually, I forget who I was talking to about it
in the office earlier this week, but the way that so much support and product and software
information has moved into discord is like, hey, do you like my project?
Come join my discord and we talk about it. And then it just eventually gets wiped.
And I was talking about how when Pankratz, Pankratz did the bulk of the work,
getting that old VR headset to work, the Forte or whatever it was called,
when we did that video on it. And the only way that he was able to do that was by digging up old documentation and old
discussion around it. And we're going to be in this information gap, I think, right now.
Oh yeah. When all this exchange of information is happening on a platform that, by its very nature,
will, is impermanent. And then this, this...
I'm not gonna lie, I saw this, Warcraft 3 Reforged Legion TD Noob Lobby.
And I was like, oh. Yeah. Being able to jump into a Warcraft 3 custom game and be decently confident that like,
you know, based on whatever comments or other people signing up or however this works,
that other people are going to be there, sounds awesome.
That is so cool. I think we're going to lose a bunch of the stream right now, though, because like...
There you go, start playing. How could they not go play freaking...
I don't know, man. Dragon Ball FighterZ party mode, six player 3v3 tag, like just...
How freaking social does this look?
Like, remember when, remember when games weren't necessarily about maximum sweat?
Yeah. Yeah. And you could just like play, you could jump into a random game, people are like playing
Jackbox and stuff, like just mingling, having a life, you know?
Feels really cool to use. I know.
Just feels awesome. It's delightfully retro. Yeah.
Steam 2004, if I remember correctly, something like that?
So cool, man. Really cool. And there's a decent amount, I would really highly encourage people to at least check this out.
There's a decent amount of like game date sessions on here that don't have a ton of
sign-ups yet, but they look for like really cool games.
So maybe jump on and go have some fun. Yeah, you guys should go check it out, because what do you have to lose?
Just do something different, do something new. Man, I feel like between doomscrolling on my phone or being locked in on just that one game I play,
I feel like the variety in my life was kind of reduced for a bit.
Oh, yeah. That's one of the reasons that when I was on vacation recently, I had one day before we went to
South Korea with the family, and then I had two days when I got back for me to be on vacation.
And so on the day before I left, I ordered a bunch of parts for that RC car that I've
wanted to fix, and then when I got back, I was just like, I'm going to fix this RC car.
Dude, I refilled my shocks earlier this week, and it turns out that oil-filled shocks should
definitely have oil in them. I didn't know it was just all completely gone.
Yeah, it was just completely empty. And it's one of those things that changes so slowly that you press on them and you go,
I mean, yeah, springs are on there. That's a shock, right? And I don't have a ton of context
for it. I don't have a whole bunch of RC cars. I don't go out to the track and compare with
other people. It seems like I have shocks. So no, it turns out that's why my skid plays
kept breaking on the front, was because I effectively didn't have any flipping. I didn't
have any damping on the shocks. So one of the four leaks, but that's half the fun.
I'm going to open it back up. I'm going to put better grease on the O-ring,
and then I'm going to seal it back up. And the ones that I have, it's for the Arma
Granite 4x4 Mega 550 or something like that. The point is, for the RC nerds that are like,
probably did it wrong, they're known to be bad. The shocks are known to be leaky and bad.
So at the same time as I ordered new fluid and did the rebuild on all of these ones,
I actually have new shocks in the mail. But it wasn't about that. It was about just doing
something, flipping different. Yeah. Yeah. Moving on. Yeah. Oh, this. Dan has a thing.
Oh. Yeah. You were actually excited to talk about something. I was. And so we got like,
dude, it's like this. Wancho feels new again. I'm enjoying it. Yeah. We'll see what people
think. And it'll be interesting. Like maybe we can retain at least part of this past April.
Yeah. Maybe we could have a minimum amount of, yeah. A topic diversity quota.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. All right. We'll call it the... Nope.
Trying to think of something that would be DEI or something like the DEI Wancho.
Yeah. Neither of us would be hosting it though, I suppose.
Well, yeah. I mean, what? Him? You got to be kidding me. Another white dude with a beard?
We've hit the beard quota. We've hit... Sorry. All right. This week...
We're doing great. This week we launched the Not A Bug t-shirt. This is what happens when you say
not a bug, it's a feature a bit too many times. So the designers decided to make a cool graphic
tee out of it. It's like textured. Yeah. It's pretty sick. It's a detailed wasp,
but it has like kind of circuitry built into it. So it ends up looking like a literal digital bug.
And as always, it's printed on our classic poly blend t-shirt. So it's super soft,
drapes nicely, and is durable. Oh, hold on. But a Luke cam.
You see it? It says nonace... What does that say? Is that not a bug? It's a what?
It's Latin. I can't read Latin. What does that say? I sort of figured out I had context.
Parable education in Canada. Do we say what it means on here? We just don't. It's got a Latin on it.
Well, we have a form of the English translation. It's not a bug. It's a feature.
Oh, what the heck? Okay, sure. Yeah, fine. You can kind of suss your way through it a little bit.
The sign next or whatever that one, I had no idea what that word was, but...
Okay. 3499 USD, 2999 CAD on the global site. Get yours today. By the way... Oh,
I should probably actually check a lot of people. I think this was probably our most
successful April Fools since we sold our company to NVIDIA, like really,
really old one in terms of fooling people. The number of people that were super angry
about us doing an ICO like rug pull thing was significant, and the number of people
that thought that the coin was not real was very significant. The coin is real.
Linus coin is real. You just... You buy it. It's 20 USD or 30 USD. You will...
20 USD or 30 CAD. Sorry, 20 USD or 30 CAD. You buy it. You get this challenge coin in the mail.
It's big. It's chunky. It's really cool. And then you get a credit on the store
for double the value of the coin. So if you were going to buy anything in the next little bit,
you should just buy the coin because you get double the value in gift card
of what you spent on the coin. So it's basically free real estate.
I got a message earlier. Girl math. Do you get to keep the coin?
Yes. The coin is just for you for keeps for fun. It's just a cool challenge coin. You can flip it
when you want to make a decision or whatever. It's just a cool little collectible. It's one
per household, but we've already sold through so many of them that I think we're down to about the
last thousand. So we were originally going to do 10,000, which is how many we minted ahead of time.
And then like three days before, I got to give massive credit to the Creator Warehouse Engineering
team as well as the operations team for pivoting and getting this done. I was like,
let's do more. So we opened up another 10,000 orders, but we're going to get those minted
over the next little bit and then it'll ship when it ships. So we're doing 20,000,
but I think we've moved through about 19,000. So if you want to get one, it's a gift card.
It's a discounted gift card. It's a cool collectible gift. Free collectible coin.
Stephen Jay asks, is this a way for you to get an income stream to afford the jet?
Most certainly not. It'll help with cash flow, but what I can tell you based on that
this has a cost to us, like this is made of scrap metal. There were nuggets of truth in
the April Fool's video. The fact that it's made of melted down waste zinc housings from our original
screwdriver supplier, that's 100% true. We got screwed over on the shafts and we got screwed
over on the housings. It really blew chunks. Obviously, we've done okay. We survived it.
It wasn't a critical hit, but they're made of leftover remains of the original 100,000 screwdriver
order, like bungled up production. They were done by a partner down in the States. So we
jokingly refer to them as the 11th province in the video, a little bit of Uno reverse there.
But yeah, they were actually minted onshore, which I think is really cool. So they do have an
actual cost and then we're taking what you guys are paying for it and then we're giving double that
in credit. So it doesn't take a mathematical genius to know that we are not making money on
this part of the transaction. If you guys want the inside baseball, I can tell you that our hope
is that after buying a $40 coin for $20, you will spend more than the $40 and maybe buy something
that's not on mega ultra discount and load up your cart and maybe we'll make something on it.
But if you were to buy the coin for $20 and then buy a $40 item, then like, no, that will not
help us pay for anything. It'll be fun. It'll be for the lulls. It'll be a good time. Good times
are had by all. That's about it. Oh, nice. Right. If you're going to pick up a coin or one of the
new shirts or really, I mean anything on the store, there's so much, man, there's so much good stuff
on the store these days. Oh, right. Holy crap. Have we even talked about, oh, wait, no, we did
talk about these. We talked about these last week. Good. Yeah, fine. Flexible magnetic cable
management. Now's a great time to do it because during the show, we do our checkout messages
and it's a great way to interact with the show. We don't want people just throwing money at their
screens. Quite frankly, I think based on the video that went up the other day, it's fairly obvious
that I'm not going to come to you guys hat in hand begging for support. We are extremely
committed to making high quality products that can stand on their own right. That's why we stopped
referring to it as merch. And we also don't want you just throwing your money at your screen to
people who, quite frankly, should do something for you in return. So we created checkout messages,
which are the way to interact with the show. All you got to do is add an item to your cart.
I got it. Oh, Luke's on it. But there you go. Add an item to your cart. You'll see the interface to
send a checkout message. Boop. Yeah, I'd like to do that. You type a little message. It goes to
producer Dan, who will reply to it or pop it up on the stream or will curate it for me and Luke
to respond to. So why don't we go ahead and do a couple of those and let's chat with y'all.
I'm getting so many in right now that people have been told that the coin is not fake.
I knew it. It was too believable, Luke. It was really chill up until that point.
What have you done? Okay, whatever. Hello, so many. Hello Linus, Luke, and Dan. I'm gearless.
What motivated the decision to tear the tech house to studs instead of wiring in the crawl
or tow boards, especially with asbestos? So that is actually why.
I'm not going to lie. Tech house is over budget. It's behind schedule and over budget.
Classic LTT. Times four. But there's a number of considerations. So first of all,
me putting a hammer through the wall and discovering asbestos was obviously movie magic.
We knew there was asbestos involved and we did work with the seller on that knowledge.
And fully intended to deal with it. But we didn't know exactly how much there was because
testing for asbestos is not as simple as like, you know, getting in there and smelling it.
Like it's not that simple. You need to take actual samples of the materials and analyze them.
You have to go sniff them at home or in a lab laboratory somewhere.
So we knew about the asbestos. We just didn't know the full extent of it. But what we did
know for sure was that around the entire perimeter of the house, there was asbestos for days.
So what we did was we started some of the demolition. So you guys saw that video. I saw a lot
of speculation that Linus was not the one who actually cleared out the basement because he
has lackeys for that. Unfortunately, all of my lackeys you guys may or may not have noticed
that were there that day were a solid seven inches taller than me. I was definitely the
one in the basement. Nobody else would have even fit any house. So we did the demo video
and then we hired professionals to come in and have a look at the perimeter.
So they looked at the perimeter and they looked at some of the other stuff. And what we found out
was that the caulking or the goo or the glue or whatever it is that was used for the electrical
wiring contained asbestos. So once we found that out, what are we even talking about here? What
are we going to do? We're going to cut the drywall. We're going to follow every wire
and find every spot where it's got any glue on it. No, you just rip the drywall off. You take
your lumps. And it was important to us that whoever ends up in this place, we're dealing
with the issues. We have a brand to protect. I have my personal reputation to protect,
believe it or not. And I take that extremely seriously, especially when it comes to issues
around safety. So there was no way that we were just going to like sweep literal asbestos under
the rug. So once we discovered that and they had to cut a bunch of the wiring in order to get it
out. So once they're cutting all the electrical wiring, we got to go down to studs. So we're
going to have some updates for you guys soon. It did end up costing like 30 plus grand or
something like that for all of the removal, which blows. But hey, we're going to make a
lot of videos in there. And actually going down to studs does open up some pretty exciting
options that we've been talking about. Like one of the ideas was, you know that have you
watched the tech house tour video? Have you even been there yet? No, I've not been there. Okay,
well, whatever. There's this cabinet at the back of what's going to be like the upstairs kind of
like theater, like TV watching area. And we were like, Oh, that'd be like sick as like an equipment
cabinet. Well, we didn't think about it until the drywall was off, but it's like right above the
garage. So without doing any HVAC or anything in there, we could just have like passive venting
that just like dumps all the heat from there into the garage rather than rather than dumping
it up into that already going to be like a pretty warm room and it might be kind of hard on the
HVAC. So just like little things like that will be much easier to do now that we've got the drywall
off. I do fully recognize that this has all of a sudden turned into like a full home renovation,
as opposed to like tech makeover. So tech house two, okay, I'm putting my foot down.
Tech house two, we're not taking it down to studs. It'll be we'll have to kind of
already committing to have to adapt around it. Well, honestly, I'm having so much fun already
with tech house one. I have heard through the grapevine that you're having a lot of fun.
It's been it's cool. Yeah, I just find it interesting that it's like gotten to me,
not even from you of people just be like, wow, yeah, it's like, he just seems like really like
excited and like he's having a good time. Luke, do you have any idea how much I would rather
crawl around in a dirty, moldy, disgusting basement? Just like finding little treasures and
bringing them up to troll the team compared to sitting in a board room. No, I fully understand,
trust me. Yeah, I got you. I get it. Yeah,
like it's dude, it's I don't know, man. It's fun. It feels the tech house series feels like classic
LTT. I remember when I was in, it must have been like grade five or six or something.
I was in elementary school. The principal came into our class and was like, I need some help moving
effectively furniture. Nice. And he pointed it like me and a couple other.
Yeah. And, and we went out and helped them move around like a bunch of benches and like stuff to
set up. It was some like a big event that was happening in the gym. And I remembered thinking
like as I was walking back to class, I was like, I don't know exactly what I want to do
as a job when I'm older, but I'd love if it was like
going somewhere and doing a task, if that makes sense. And, and now I, I sit in, I sit in.
Yeah, I was going to say, was this, it's the Good News WAN Show. Was this story supposed to
have a happy ending? This is not really Good News WAN Show. I think it's like, I, I understand why
you like it. Yeah. I wasn't surprised when people are like, yeah, he's having a good time. I'm like,
yeah, cause he's out doing stuff. It makes, it's so much more fun. I, we have to find a way.
Like I told you, I told you earlier in the show, like I wrote a video
yesterday, like just, just spontaneously. Yeah. Like we had a cool idea because we saw like an
interesting topic. I had a little brainstorm, which I often do. I'll sit and I'll do like an
entire scrum for a video. I'll lay out an outline and then I'll walk away and then we'll just like,
I don't know, we'll make it in like three weeks or we'll just never make it or whatever. But, but
we didn't. We like, we agileed up and we were just like, okay. No waterfalls. Okay. You're making
this, you're, we, we scheduled you time. Go to your office. Yeah. Go write it. Good. And so I did.
I sat and I just, I just wrote it and it's, it's funny because I, I have written more than probably
a lot of the audience realizes because I'm a kind of a perfectionist about certain things.
And so some of the videos that like have a writer credit on them, I like basically just,
I basically wrote them. I do, I edit very heavily sometimes. And, and yes, I feel really good whenever
I see a comment on it that's like, Hey, and the other person who's credited as the writer, wow,
this, they did a really good job. I'm like, I'll just quietly feel good about it. But in terms of
just have both of you on there from scratch, from scratch though. Okay. I very rarely get to do
it these days. Yeah. And in some ways it's, it's funny. I was telling Yvonne when I came home,
I was like, my brain's tired, but like a good tired. It's a different kind of tired editing
someone else's work, which is where, where I've flexed my brain muscle the most for the last
five, six, seven years. Nice. I'm like used to it and like that muscles like hard, but it's like
an uncomfortable kind of hard. Whereas like the just from scratch, just, just writing it muscle,
I haven't, I haven't flexed it as much, but it was like, you know, like after a workout when
you're like good tired, when you lie in your bed and you're just like, God, I'm tired. Oh,
I'm going to sleep like a baby. This is amazing. I know I'm not yet, but like it was that kind of
brain tired. It was so good. I'm sending you a message. Yeah. I've completely forgotten what
is even called. I know that's why I'm sending you the message. He wants me to take herbal supplements
and remedies. He, no, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just bucking. He's going full in on natural health
products. He's not, and it's not health advice. Neither of us knows. We don't know. We don't know
anything. Yeah. Don't listen. The thing we're talking about, because people started guessing
last time and it was way worse, but so I'll just say it, but I'm trying to get them to take creatine
monohydrate. Don't listen to me. Do your own research. Go have fun. I am not a doctor. Hooray.
Cool. Good chat. Thanks. I'm talking to him. I'm not talking to you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
they know that, right? Like we're just talking to each other. They know that. No, no, this is advice.
Oh, oh, I didn't see you there.
Was that one checkout message? Yeah, I've got like a hundred. So let's move on. Hi. Hi, Dan.XE.
Yeah, listen to it again. Luke Longtorso and Gabriel Danger.
That's an amazing name for you. I really like Gabriel Danger. It's freaking awesome.
That's great. Linus. I might whip that out sometime. Let's go with Gabriel. Do you think
it would be, no, sir, Mr. Danger, do you think it'd be fun to have the kids react to their or
each other's videos of you building PCs with them when they were three? Oh, yes, it's fun. We've done
it multiple times. It's actually something that we do. We have done as a family at least twice,
sat and watched them all with all the kids. And I have done at least once with two of my kids on
two separate occasions when their friends are over. What? I got to be an embarrassing dad.
Come on. That is completely in character for me. Yeah. Completely. Definitely. And it's one of
those things where like I've always had a complicated relationship with the idea of featuring our kids
in our videos, especially when they were younger. Now that they're bigger, it's changing a lot.
My perspective has changed quite a lot. We compensate them for their on-time camera. We
always have. They are reaching a point, especially my son, where they have had experiences of what
it's like to be recognized in public for who they are. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Come on. Do you
think the kids at school don't know what the f*** LTT is? I feel like that's different than a random
encounter. I feel like they're both very impactful, but in different ways and for different reasons.
But do you think the school sports ball team doesn't go to other schools? There you go.
And stuff? Yeah. Like it just happens, right? And so, you know, they can, they can, they're
reaching the point now where, and, you know, obviously I'm a dad, super biased, but I have
super smart kids. They're great kids where we can have conversations about it. But in the early days,
before they were, before they were even remotely able to understand or consent to anything,
I had a very complicated relationship with it. I mean, obviously, like any parent,
I love my kids, I want to show them off. But I didn't want to turn them into like a commodity
for the enrichment of the company. And so those, those three-year-old builds were just like,
they felt at the time almost like a lapse in judgment with the first one. And then like
something that we had to do with the other two because we did it with the first one and we
didn't want the classic, well, the firstborn got all the love and attention. And why are there,
hey, why are there only pictures of my brother? Like we didn't, we didn't want to do that.
Looking back at it now, I am so glad we did it. I wish we'd done more, because they're such a
cool little time capsule. They're one of the only times, like Yvonne and I are such like busy
parents. We only almost exclusively have pictures of our kids taken on our phones, which like, if
you saw Marquez's every iPhone, the same picture on every iPhone thing that he did recently,
he did a short or something. Yeah, anyway, he did it. And, you know, when I was taking pictures
with my phone 10 years ago, it was not great. And so those videos are one of the only pieces
of media that exist of my kids that were shot professionally. Fair enough. So a lot of people
will never have any really. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it was really cool. And I guess, so yes, I've done
that. Thank you for your wonderful, check out message. I'm going to throw you one more check
out message just because we've got a lot coming in. Tough question for Linus. Do you have a favorite
cat? Oh, oh, dude. Okay, look, I love all my cats equally. Actually, I don't. They're just animals.
And I don't. He's an animal farming it. I don't actually have the same rules about, you know,
my cats and as I do about like people and my family and stuff. I can love them better. I can love
one cat better than another cat. My favorite is, is the orange. And I'm trying to find,
I, oh, I must have, shoot, I must have taken it on Yvonne's phone. I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask her to
send it to me. She did this thing when she was a kitten. Can I have that picture of Missy on you
for when? So she did this thing, when she was a kitten, where she would actually crawl like right
up in here when we were in bed and she would like sleep like in our necks. And then when she
reached like adolescence, every once in a while, she would like crawl under the covers and just
like camp herself between your thighs and just like hang there. And then for a long time, like
six months, she didn't do it at all. And I don't know what happened, but over the last week or so,
she's just become the biggest mama's girl on the face of the earth. And she's been like sleeping
like for hours at night, just like up on Yvonne's chest or like next to her leg. And last night,
she hung out like right between us. So she was the middle spoon. She was, she's just being such a,
she's like, she's dumb. You know, like sometimes it's not often true, but sometimes stereotypes
exist for a reason. She's got a single orange brain cell and she just, it's firing at half capacity,
but she is just, she's sweet and dumb, you know? She's just dumb and sweet. She's just such a sweet
dumb little girl. Yeah, our orange. Will you hammer it in there? Yeah, yeah. And she's just,
she's such, she's such trouble, you know? So her name is, her name is actually Mischief.
Missy is, Missy is for short because she's just, she's trouble. She's just dumb trouble,
but you can't get mad at her. She's just too cute. Brownie's probably the overall family favorite,
though. I'd say, you know what? Oh man, Noodle's really great too. He's, he's weird. Weird cat.
It's a weird name. It makes sense. Yeah. Like he'll like run away from me all day.
And then I'll be, I'll have insomnia and I won't be able to sleep. And I'll, I'll be like
up getting a snack at two in the morning. And he like will almost kill me multiple times as I'm
walking down the stairs, rubbing up against my legs and just like looking up at me and like,
like he'll get up on, he'll get up on his back legs and he'll like, like reach up and like,
he'll like grab on to me and stuff so that I can't walk away from him. Like, bro, where's this,
where's all this love like the rest of the time? Yeah, they're all really great. I love, I love
cats. Anytime someone tells me they don't like cats, I basically just go, I'm sorry that you
haven't met the right cat yet because they're, they're awesome. They're probably just dog people
and their dog was terrorized by a cat. So they just didn't like cats. Maybe that's it. I mean,
I'm a dog person too. I love dogs. They're just too much work and that's, I did, I did so much
animal care as a kid that I just, I wanted low maintenance animals. Horses are just,
they're so much flipped in work. Yeah. And cool though. Oh, they're, they're amazing. Oh,
I love horses. Horses are, if I had to pick a favorite animal, it would probably be horses,
if I'm being honest with myself. They're just, we had Arabs, particular breed of horse, not
like people from certain regions of earth, like we, Arabian horses. So we had Arabs when I was
growing up. Oh my God. I don't know how many people questioned that, but all right, sounds good.
I'm just making sure. I mean, we had that whole incident that one time where I didn't know what
a word meant and there was some ambiguity. I'm just getting out ahead of it, Luke. I'm getting
out ahead of it. I'm my own Neo. I dodged my own bullets now. Anyway, we had Arabs and they have
so much. It's some hard Arabs. Stop saying it. Just say horses. It's a breed of horse. Just say horse
then. And they're known for being somewhat headstrong and. The Arabs. Yes. The Arab horses,
Arab horses. And so all three of our horses, they were ladies and they just. So Arab ladies are
headstrong. I don't know what it is. I like animals that don't give you unconditional love.
Okay. Yeah, sure. Dogs almost feel too easy in a way. I love dogs too. Like our dog Buster,
he would sleep in my room all the time. We were, we were like BFFs during those years.
He was like the best dog we ever had. Love dogs. But in some ways, like I almost have like,
I have this thing where stuff doesn't feel, I don't like the easy path.
I don't like, I don't like the easy path. Okay. And I don't feel, I don't feel as
deep a sense of accomplishment if I didn't work for something. And cats and horses are like that.
They can be the most loving, sweet animals. They, they, they absolutely have emotions. Anyone who
tells you that, you know, a dog especially doesn't feel just, I don't, I don't know how to, I don't
know how to account for that. They just, they clearly not, they're clearly not looking. They're
clearly not open to it. Right. And cats and horses are absolutely the same. But they just,
they have that edge. They weren't domesticated grand scheme of things that long ago. And so,
you know, horses, they'll just, they'll do stuff, right? They'll just like, man, they,
you'd be, you'd be working, you'd be working on them, right? You'd be shoveling, you know,
shoveling shit in their stall or you'd be, you know, brushing them down or you're doing whatever
it is that you're doing. And they, they do this thing, they do this thing where they, they'll,
they'll look away and they'll, they'll step on your foot. They, and look, they, they, unless
they're really trying to hurt you, they won't step hard, but they're just, they're just letting you
know. They don't, they won't break your foot unless they, unless they, they want to, they don't
put all their weight on it. They just, they just let you know. They just, they let you know.
One of, one of ours was, was, yeah, one of our Arabs. Her name was crazy.
Actually, it was Kila, but we called her crazy because she was, okay, let me put it this way.
When the vet came to artificially inseminate her, which we only had to do because she kept fighting
the stallions, the vet said they put enough tranq in her to take down a rhino and she still,
like it, like, like she, she was like still kicking. She was, she was, boy, did that thing
ever have spirit. She, she was, what a, what an incredible horse loved her. Anyway, so I was,
so I was riding her one day and another thing that horses will do is they'll, they'll test you,
right? They'll test you. They want to know like who's in control here. They always want to know,
they're always testing the limits. And one of the things that they'll do is they will,
they'll go near trees and branches and stuff and they'll like, they'll bug you.
They'll like, they'll, they'll know the entire, the path is this wide and there's a skinny sliver
right over here that has a branch hanging over it. And they'll, they'll try to, they'll try to
take that route just to give you a little, you know, a little branch in the face anyway.
She got kind of spooked by some, some noise or some animal or some, some smell. You never know,
right? They can smell things like miles away. And she kind of, she kind of got spooked and
she kind of took off and then she kind of settled a little bit, but we were still going
a little fast. And I was like trying to get her under control and she just, you know, was not,
was not having it. And she went under a thick branch and I saw it coming and I got down and I
had a helmet on, thankfully, but I got down, I got down flat on her and it still hit me like
right in the head and pushed me right off the back of the horse. And she took maybe another
three steps and she stopped and she looked back and you could tell in that moment she didn't mean
to do that. She was like, oh, I'm sorry. Like that was, I meant to, I meant to sassia. I didn't mean
to hurt you. Yeah. And so I like, I went over, I basically was like, give her the, like, you
can't, you can't, okay, you can, but I wouldn't, but I gave her a little like, you know, one of these
like, don't do that. She stood, got back up and it was like, okay, and gave her a little kick,
okay, are we going to have a good ride here? That was probably the best behaved that she ever was.
And you can't convince me, you will never convince me in a thousand years that an animal you can have
that kind of a relationship with and that kind of an experience with doesn't, doesn't understand.
That they're just a dumb animal. Yeah. So I, man, I love horses, even when they're, even when
they're bad. There's this, I've heard this thing about how they can, they can lock their like
joints and tendons so that standing uses like an incredibly low amount of energy. I didn't
know that. Like a mind-blowingly low amount of energy because they're, they're prey animals
realistically. Look at the eye position and stuff. Oh, they definitely are. So they, they don't want
and it can take a lot to get a horse, especially if it's like laying down like on its side,
it can take a lot to get it all the way up. Yeah. So they want to be able to,
to just basically stand all the time. And there's this whole thing where like, you'll see,
you know, if, if a horse, if you're like sitting down and a horse like lays down
next year or whatever, it's actually a very high level sign of trust.
Really? Because I was about to say we only had one horse that we've heard this that would lie down.
And it was the full that crazy, ultimately eventually birthed. Her name was Trixie. And
she would, she would lie down in the hay, not like, not like the, like the, the bedding hay,
like the food hay. So the other horses would be like standing and like eating the hay and she
would just be chilling in the middle of it. That was her jam, which I've never seen before. I have
to assume that she like watched one of the dogs do it or something. Cause that's not horse behavior.
Yeah, probably. Anyway. All right. Uh, two more topics says Dan, the producer.
It's on the sign. I didn't say it. Dude, I love, I love, this is slightly off topic still, but
I love when you see like animals raised by other random animals, like birds that are,
like if it's a single bird and a bunch of dogs, it'll like bark at stuff. It was just like so
funny. You see, you see all these like just little, like, oh, it learned that from, you know,
it was alone for whatever reason, but it was around a bunch of other ones and it learned that,
that habit from that other animal. That's so cool. I think it's very, very funny. Um, anyways,
let's talk about turboquant. This was another contributor to potentially the rampocalypse
easing at least a little bit. We hope you want to do it. Yeah. Google research published a blog
post on a compression algorithm called turboquant. You know, the, uh, I'm good. Uh, the, the, the
people who started this whole thing and then stopped paying attention have now released
another blog post that has a lot of impact, uh, by reducing the memory footprint of the key value
cache of large language models by six X with zero accuracy loss and no retraining required.
That's crazy. Geez. Uh, how it works. A bunch of math over here. Feel free to skip it. Whoa.
Touch on it. LLMs encode text in the form of vectors. The key value cash is a digital cheat
sheet that stores these vectors. So the model doesn't have to recompute them from scratch
every time it generates a new word. As a chat session progresses, the KV cash eats more and more
GPU memory, which is a problem because it's storing the whole history of the entire conversation.
It re, it re-reurgitates it like every time, which is why LLMs get so stupid once you have
exceeded, um, you know, some reasonable amount of memory that they have allocated to your
conversation. Yeah. The KV cash gets compressed over the course of a chat session, but existing
compression techniques, uh, have to store extra normalization data alongside the compression
values, which partially undoes said compression. Turbo quant solves this in two steps. One,
polar quant. I love that. Just cold sick word paired with quant, uh, eliminates compression
overhead by converting vectors into polar coordinates, encoding them with an angle and
a distance instead of X and Y, which removes the need for that extra data. Okay. Oh, that's,
that's so cool. Yeah. That's, that's almost like, that's almost like the end to end
compression. Like, like, like obvious. If you think about it, kind of like moment from Silicon
Valley, like it's, yeah, instead of storing all of this, we just store how you get there.
Sure. Yeah. That's so cool. A second technique called Q J L or quantized Johnson,
Lyndon Strauss, sick, uh, applies a one bit error correction to clean up any residual errors.
Nice. Which apparently has no negative impact, at least they're saying up above. Uh, together,
these improve compression efficiency, taking memory usage from 16 bits per number down to just
three. Yeah. Damn. This compression technique effectively improves inference economics.
Wow. Very fun. Uh, letting you either extend the context window or serve more users with fewer GPUs,
which, uh, in both cases is save money. Um, it's important to note that turbo quant does not
compress the model itself. The model stays the same size. It only compresses the information
that is generated during a chat session. Google tested it across standard benchmarks using
open source models, uh, Gemma, Mistral, Lama, uh, and got perfect scores on needle in haystack tests
while achieving up to eight X speed up in attention computation on NVIDIA H 100 GPUs
compared to uncompressed baselines. The initial market reaction was a bit of panic when this
paired with the open AI, uh, actually commit. We haven't talked about that yet. Okay. So I'll
talk about it a little bit later. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but that, those two things paired cause some
market panic, uh, as investors started recalculating how much physical memory the AI industry actually
needs within hours of Google's blog posts, memory stocks dropped, micron fell 3%. Western
Digital Blast 4.7% and SanDisk dropped 5.7%. Now those two, the second two are kind of funny to
me because neither of them makes RAM, but I'm sure there's a reason for this. Dude, over the pandemic,
there was a, what was, Zoom? Zoom? Oh yeah. Started getting used a lot and some other
stock called Zoom that wasn't the, the, the chat system went to the moon because people
didn't even do enough research to make sure they were investing in the right thing. The stock market is hilarious. Um, analysts are saying that it is likely another deep seek
moment referring to how the release of the, the cheaper and also open source deep seek model
back in 2024, back in 2025, back in my day, uh, caused a trillion dollar market panic
before anyone even realized that cheaper AI just means that more people are going to use it.
SanDisk's CFO reinforced that theory when he told Bank of America analysts that he actually
expects the improved efficiency to boost demand by making AI deployments more accessible.
The bigger picture here is that this could be part of a shift where compression and
efficiency breakthroughs may start to matter more than how big you can make your model. And that
honestly does make sense to me. And techniques like turbo quant are what could get AI to run
locally in a more efficient way. And this is interesting because honestly, for a huge percentage
of users, it kind of can do enough for what it is right now. But anyways, so, so making it more
efficient would make sense. A couple of caveats here, mostly for reference, but I'm going to say
them anyways, because this is a pretty interesting topic. The underlying research is actually about
a year old. The paper, the paper first appeared on Rxiv in April of 2025, but it's getting more
attention now. I have its formal presentation at ICLR 2026. Later this month, Google hasn't
released official code, but independent devs are already building working implementations from the
paper alone. And the real thing to watch is whether major frameworks like Lamidot CCP,
sorry, CPP, Olamma, or VLLM merge it in. Wow, actually like super cool, not even just for the
home labors trying to run their own stuff, which is this is sick for, but also anyone trying to
build the computer because dear God, hopefully RAM prices come down. And I also Rxiv is actually
pronounced archive. The X is Greek. Sure. Sure. Whatever. All right. I am. Thanks.
Oh man. Hear me out.
Maybe we don't use this efficiency to just build even more AI, like the SanDisk guy said.
I actually don't think so. Based on based on open AI shutting down Sora2 and just kind of going,
yeah, forget it. Based on that pretty much every app I touch already has AI in it.
Is that really the outcome that we're expecting from this? Or do we expect them to finally return
to some semblance of fiscal responsibility with this build out? I don't know what to expect with
any of this stuff anymore, to be honest. It's that whole like the market can stay rational
longer than you can stay solid. Irrational, but yes. Yeah, sure. Am I just, is this just wishful
thinking for me? Or are we actually, you know, seeing a return to sanity? I don't think we are
going to fully return. No, I don't think we're going to fully return ever, but like, you know,
tulips are still worth $17. They're not worthless. Considering the level of impact
that this is talking about, 6x reduction paired with,
and like, you know, you still need the initial VRAM to like load the freaking model because
they're not making the model smaller, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but it's still a significant reduction of something. Yeah, the inference can get cheaper. That's still a good
thing. Oh yeah. That paired with the Sam Altman stuff that we'll talk about shortly. Oh yeah,
we can just do that now. We probably should. Those two things paired, I suspect will cause
an impact. I don't think it's going to be super massive, but I do think it'll bring
things down a little bit. It already has. This is a great tweet from our fellow Canadian bros
over at Hardware Canucks. It's going to load eventually, but this, man, this site is slow
these days. Turns out Sam Altman buying up 40% of DRAM wafers was actually him writing
letters of intent. Letters he supposedly had slash has no intention of converting to actual
purchases now. Memory manufacturers are just getting dumped on today. This was from March 30th,
so this was earlier this week. Yeah, the problem is that hasn't stayed true. No,
but there are other signals. I don't know what they were using. I don't know if he was using
like Google stock, whatever, but like five days, they're up. One days, they're barely down.
So they've recovered to where they were. Yeah. That's what I'm saying is like people heard this
news and they went, no, all right. Back to business. I think we're going to return to,
I think we're going to return to a little bit of sanity here. I think that if people can buy
less hyper expensive memory, because here's something to remember too, guys. The memory is
getting way more expensive for gamers in the current climate. The memory is also getting
way more expensive for these giant buildouts. Yeah, I just think, I don't think turbo quant is
going to make as much of an impact as people think. Six extra reduction on inference memory
sounds awesome. You still got to load those models. There's still a lot else going on.
Most people that I see when they're speccing out like HomeLab, I've been trying to do some
research because I'd really like to have a HomeLab LLM set up thing at some point,
but RAM is just freaking expensive. But most people that I see speccing out systems for that are not
talking about, do you have enough memory for inference? They're talking about, do you have
enough memory to load the model? So I don't know how much that's going to move the needle.
I don't have a ton of experience running these myself, hence I haven't built one yet,
but just looking around on the level one text forum or whatever else I've been doing,
I don't see people min-maxing for that. Now, great. You know what? It sounds good,
and maybe it will reduce a little bit of demand. I don't know on the data center level, but,
and I think that this is why when you said earlier, like, oh, the market drop was because of this,
that might even be true. I have no idea what's going on with the markets, but to me,
the more real thing feels like the letters of intent being maybe not super legit from Sam
Altman. Well, because he said publicly now that, yeah, that number that I kind of had planned
before, it's actually going to be a lot lower from my understanding. Yeah. So that's more real to me.
That's like a, okay, this part of the circle of moving money around that has been a huge part
of the whole bubble around this AI stuff. And that has created pressure for everyone else to
build faster than they can. Yeah. So that there isn't just like one company left standing that
has all the capacity. Yeah. That is cracking a little bit. This is, this is a sign of a crack.
I hope so. I hope so. And that's where I have a lot more hope. This TurboQuant thing sounds super
cool on like a technical level and stuff. It sounds awesome. I don't know how much that is going to
cause a reduction in demand of RAM in reality. But the Sam Altman thing is like,
there was the crack that was them adding ads into their thing where they're like,
this would be the last ditch thing we would ever do. And then they did it like two months later.
And this is another one of those cracks where it's like, yeah, we want to buy all this RAM.
And then maybe not. Maybe we don't actually need that much. And there's this like,
you know, this standoff of who's going to say that they don't have the capital and the desire
first. And this is OpenAI saying that maybe they don't actually have as much capital and
desire as they had previously thought, which is a big statement. And there's the Oracle layoffs.
And the Oracle layoffs and like all these other kind of things happening. And it's like, okay,
maybe it's slowing down a little bit. What else we got today? Yeah. Oh,
the Wansho channel is live. We are multi streaming. LMG clips is officially rebranded to the Wansho.
This is part of the transition where Wansho is now officially co-owned 50 50 by me and Luke.
And in the event that anything, you know, ever happens. This was our way of kind of
safeguarding Wansho and making sure that it can just continue to exist. And part of that
is having it continue to exist on a separate channel, youtube.com slash at the Wansho or
excuse me at Wansho. This one right here. So we are multi streaming to this one and LTT
for the time being, but over time we are going to be moving to exclusively that channel. So this is
a soft, soft transition. And apparently we are actually moving forward with my hilarious plan
where we're going to reduce the bit rate on the Linus Tech Tips channel slowly week over week until
people kind of go, okay, all right, okay. What is that starting? I think next week, right? Dan,
are you still working on the technical side of that? No, I offered to do it today. We should be
good to start next week. Okay. Oh, okay. My notes say Dan is working on it. So that's why I assumed
that was right. I don't know who wrote that. Cool. I have three encoders and I've set up the second
one to have adjustable bit rate. Hilarious. Adjustable bit rate. Is there a way, because I
don't think you can with OBS. Can you change the bit rate during the stream?
No, the encoder gets locked. That would be sociopathic. Starting the show at high quality
and then slowly degrading it. But I don't think so, right? I could probably do that with one of the
cameras. Oh, maybe. I can't adjust the encoder once it's running. I mean away from this. This is
next level. This is just curiosity, really. I'm not actually like suggesting filters on this.
For me, if I screw up the bit rate on a stream that I start, I have to end the stream to change it.
That's my level of... Got it. So I'm like, whoa. I mean, that's not going to work. That's just a
filter though. Yeah, that's just blur. You could tell that was just blur. Yeah. All right. Dan's
focused. Low bit rate feels kind of unique. I don't know. I wonder if we could data mosh live.
That would be kind of fun. I'm going to try that. We don't really move around enough, but
yeah, you know, if you guys do this. You're Fetty Cannon. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That would work.
All right. All right. All right. All right. We're supposed to do the flow plane announcement
for this week. Yeah. We've had 88 weeks of documentation showcasing why WAN was late.
Has why WAN late been running for over a year?
Oh, I guess. And although episode 21 is out, Linus still hasn't done a punishment
for being the most late last season. Oh. If you have a suggestion for what Linus should
have to do on the WAN Show as his punishment, let us know in the comments on that most recent
episode. Oh, I see. So it's over on Floatplane. Here it is. Linus showcases his Linux issues.
Why is WAN late episode 21? Okay. All right. Good. Thank you, Sammy, for that very innovative
engagement idea. I guess I have to do the thing. Anyway, while you're over there checking it out
at LMG.GG slash Floatplane, we also have some extras for you. Oh, cool. This is great.
Early access. He needs a NAS. This is really funny. It's actually in the intro of the video,
but Pluf goes, have you noticed that in all the years I've worked here, I have never done
anything with storage or networking. I was like, oh, yeah. No, I did not notice that. But yes,
now that you say it. So it's just because it wasn't an area of expertise for him.
And as part of rectifying that and also solving some just data management issues and also because
that man just cannot help himself. A new hobby shows up and he's like, oh, yay, new hobby.
He built himself a NAS. It's a really good video. His timing is terrible.
But as you well know, but he had a really good time doing it and it's a really good video.
That's cool. We also are finally releasing this. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's...
Hold on. I'm just going to change this title a little bit. Talking about us being slow.
Look, there was a lot of moving pieces on this one. Adam went all the way to NASA to find out how far away a panel has to be from a fan before it
impacts the performance. It's a pretty cool video with some like... I've been waiting to see it for
so long. Next level real science. It was filmed so long ago that it talks about the Artemis missions
in the future tense. Which I guess... Oh, that's up early access over on Floatplane.
Don't yet because I want to show something fun. Some people haven't noticed that Floatplane also
joined in on the festivities of April 1st. So we added loot boxes in the top right hand corner.
You can see up here, there's a little loot box icon and it's pretty innocent. This is all it does.
You click it, it does a little animation, and then it pops open and you get served a random
video that you have access to. Wow. They added a Linus hole to this. That's because I got a prototype.
What a pull. I got a prototype of this. That's a rare Pokemon card right there.
But yeah, it's kind of fun. So maybe check it out and click the loot box.
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the durability of it. Yeah. So when I saw her MacBook, I was really impressed with how good it
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a better lasting look than I expected. It's pretty cool. I'm wondering if you can...
Yeah. Dude, my like, gape mouth at the beginning was because that looks amazing.
Well, yeah. A green Xbox? A green textured Xbox looks awesome. I'm kind of a bit of a
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That's sick. Yeah. The touch grass thing. I also think it could be kind of fun,
if I can scroll past this, to try to match up some of the blue sky and touch grass. I don't know.
I don't know if you can do a mixture thing when you're checking out,
but if you could make Windows XP background bliss style, that'd be kind of sweet, actually.
I do wonder. I do wonder how Dbrand would do just like selling bulk skin of their skins.
I feel like I'd probably buy some touch grass. Yeah. If you could just buy like a two foot by
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so email sent to it will still reach your inbox. That's pretty based.
That is awesome, especially if you have like some ancient, you know...
What's your most embarrassing email alias?
Well, I don't have it anymore. Yeah, yeah. LadiesBoy54 at hotmail.com.
Sorry, was that ladies or lady? Ladies.
You sure it wasn't lady boy? I'm just wondering. No, this was ladies. It was ladies boy.
I was like, I think this would have been like literally like grade five or something.
Early bloomer. Wow. Okay. Oh yeah. I was ready to go.
Ladies boy. Alright. Nice. Yeah.
Yeah, I've talked about mine before, but mine's probably MooMooTheCow at hotmail.com.
That was not. And it had underscores too, so whenever I had to like give it to...
Whenever I had to say it, I just felt like such an idiot.
Yeah, it's MooMooUnderscoreTheUnderscoreCow.
And this is in the early days of email, so occasionally people would start writing the
word underscore because like they didn't know what it was and stuff. It was not good times.
I'm really glad that I moved on from that. But my later hotmail actually is not,
not much better. It's whatever. It was the underscore peanuts underscore gallery
at hotmail.com. So long. Yeah, it was really long. Thank you. It's the first time anyone's ever said that to me.
Yeah. But it's very funny at least because like the peanut gallery is like, you know, the
scrub like riff raff, you know, throwing the peanuts or whatever. That's my understanding
of it anyway. And so I was just like, yeah, you know, I'm a, you know, I'm a riff raff,
you know, troublemaker. But then I changed it to peanuts because my name is Linus.
Anyway, yeah, I don't use that anymore either. I think I'll just have to keep my work email forever
at this point. Everything is tied to it. So I'll just keep that domain forever, maybe.
I've done pretty good at keeping separation of church and state.
Yeah, you should. I had so much stuff in my NCIX email that I like really shouldn't have.
And that was a problem. I think I also had a bit of a shock
because of losing the Floatplane club stuff. And then it was like, ah, I need to remember
that these things are like. Right. We used to use floatplaneclub.com instead of Floatplane.com.
Yeah. I actually forget the whole story of getting the Floatplane domain. Well,
I'd have to go back and watch the WAN Show to know the story again.
My good documentation for it is gone because it was in the drive of Floatplane club.
But I know most of the steps that happened. I know we flew down in person.
You did. Yeah. Oh, sorry, I did. I know that I had knocked on a literal actual door to get in
touch with the guy, which will never not be an amazing story. Yeah.
I'm like, I'm pretty confident on the details, but I know that we have said the story on a
previous WAN Show. So someone's probably got a link to that. We just have to find it.
And it was, it was, it was Stone Mason. Someone said he was a Mormon, I think it was Stone Masons.
It's a, it's a wild story to be honest. But yeah, I don't want to do it
injustice by saying it wrong. Want some more good news? Yes. It's good news WAN.
Yes. Spotify is adding an exclusive mode audio file feature for Windows PCs.
This gives premium subscribers bit perfect audio playback up to 24 bit 400, 44.1 kilohertz
flak. So like just actually imperceptible from like perfect quality. Yeah. This bypasses Windows
audio mixer and hands Spotify full control of the audio chain. This means that while exclusive
mode is on, no other apps can play audio through the same device, which is probably fine, and
features like auto mix and cross fade need to be turned off to actually achieve bit perfect output.
But hey, that's really cool. That's really cool. That's sweet. I mean, they only recently added
lossless streaming last September, years behind title, Apple music and Amazon music. And now
they're taking it a step further. So if you're out of Windows workstation and you want to just jam
out to your Spotify tunes, you can get bit perfect quality. That is so, that is so cool. But our
discussion question is, Hey, title has had exclusive mode for years and still hasn't beaten Spotify
or even approached it in terms of market share. Like what is up with that? Nobody cares.
But Spotify has you have, you have one man that you have worked with multiple times in the past
who would disagree. Yep. Yep. Gentlemen. I am using nobody in a
fairly excessive way. Yeah. The market masses don't care. No, I'm not wrong. And it's unfortunate,
but we also have learned that with video quality and lots of other things as well.
They'll think it's neat, but if they have to pay for it, it makes no difference. And
and they would rather pay for other things. That's fair. That's fair. But you know what? Hey,
competition makes more features for more people. And that's something that I can always get behind.
And also just hard mid pandemic. I don't have anyone who can cut my hair.
The WAN Show by our domain was crazy. That you could have cut. I was taking the
opportunity to try to grow it out. It just didn't work. I mean, it worked. It grew out.
Yeah, success. It was educational.
But yeah, apparently that clip. So there's a clip from back then that's like 11 and a half
minutes long where we talk about it. So if you want the accurate, actually quite fun story,
maybe go check that out. All right, let's do it. Let's do it. I know you've been waiting the whole
time. Artemis two is on route to the moon. Let's do it. Let's do it. That's your topic. Hit it.
Oh, okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on before we start. Yes. Did you see the shot out the window of the
plane? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Super cool. That is a picture for the freaking ages. What a picture.
What a photograph. What a moment. Yeah. Like what was it 1973 was the last time? It sounds
right. 72, 73, somewhere in there. 70s. Yeah. Like that was one of the things I asked when we
were on the moon. Yeah. Okay. So when you got that tour for me at NASA, that was one of the
things that I like pulled the guy aside and was like, Hey, you probably get this question all the
time. But like, literally the smartwatch on my hand is more powerful than all the computers
involved in the Apollo lunar landing missions combined. What's the dealio? How is it so hard
to go back? And he was talking completely, you know, just off the record, conversationally,
this is not official NASA, whatever. So just take it for what it is one non tour guide who
was just having a conversation. And basically he's just like, Well, you gotta, you gotta understand
that like, the entire resources function fundamentally of the United States federal
government wanted to say, you to the commies and get there first. The kind of resources that NASA
had at its disposal at that time was was literally civilization changing, right? That's one. Number
two is priorities, you know, low Earth orbit or just Earth orbit in general has been more
economically interesting. It's been where the focus is. That's where the ISS is. That's where
we've been. That's where we've been working. A lot of the work that you can do in space, you do not
need to go to the moon for the moon is like really far. Okay, so that's two. And then number three
was the longer it went, the more harder it became because people would retire out or die out who
knew how to do it. It's as far as my understanding goes, a pretty significant amount of it because
of the focus being on Leo for so long has been similar to something like making like advanced
CRTs or or those machines that you guys used for, well, not you, but you contributed towards
restoring reboot. Oh, those tape decks. Yeah, it's like the the expertise is is retired out or
passed away or onto something else or whatever. The spare parts, nobody makes them. The money's
not there anymore. And the and things aren't getting cheaper to make. No, not really. Like,
I don't think you could build a Saturn V rocket today for cheaper than you could have built it
back then. Realistically, there are some things scale and that level of one off and those types
of things like like mass production is making things a lot cheaper. But yeah, crazy. And there's
there are other options like there's, you know, some of the SpaceX stuff could get us there and
stuff, but they're commercial. And there there's arguments that could be made that we should use
them for this trip and whatever and blah, blah, blah. And personally, I don't care about any of
that. I'm just freaking stoked. All right, back to the moon. Tell us about it. April 1st, crazy
day to choose. NASA launched the Artemis. No one's going to believe it.
The first crewed mission since Apollo Apollo 17 in 1972. It's a crewed mission to the moon.
No, we're not landing, but still it's the first time humans have headed there in general in
over 50 years, which is crazy. The final engine firing a trans lunar injection burn happened
Thursday at 749 p.m. Eastern time, fully committing to the 10 day mission by propelling the Orion
spacecraft out of Earth's orbit towards the moon. This final burn could have been called off if
engineers were concerned about the spacecraft systems resulting in a continued orbit around
Earth until the landing route was plotted, but it wasn't, which is freaking awesome. After the
mission launched, mission commander Reed Wiseman reported that he was having issues with Microsoft
Outlook. Here comes a quote. Here comes a quote. I love it. Go for it. Do it. Do it. Do it.
I also see that I have two Microsoft outlooks and neither one of these are working.
If you want to remote it and check Artemis and those two outlooks, that'll be awesome.
Wiseman said on live stream, mission control had to remote in to fix the issue with his computer.
Microsoft hasn't commented as of writing, which is hilarious. And then we have the
actual audio if we want to listen to that. Yeah. Hold on. No, I think I have it. I think I have it.
Yeah, I'm pulling it up.
Here it is.
Hold on. We just got to skip. We just got to skip. Hold on. Where is it?
Yeah, I forget exactly where it is, but it's somewhere in here.
Yeah. There's, there's been a lot of, I don't know, it's just so
energizing. I was talking to a good friend that works over at NASA and I was saying like,
you know, there's a lot of bad things going on in like the world right now, but it's oddly
uplifting that we're going back to the moon. Like something about that is just so cool.
Okay.
There it is. But yeah, I'm pretty sure that, I'm pretty sure that's, that's Canon now.
It's great. And like there's, there's also this, this show that I've never seen or heard of before,
but there's this really cool quote from it that is like.
I know there's no sound. You don't need the sound to know what he's saying. The lessons of Icarus isn't that we need to not fly so close to the sun. The lesson of Icarus
should be that we need to build better wings. And I'm just like, that is just such a cool
quote. I don't know the show. Somebody probably knows. I don't watch that much TV shows, but
solid. I got linked like that clip. And I was like, man, that's freaking sick. It's just so,
it feels like
good human progress again. The AI stuff has so much ick with it.
But like going and being amongst the stars again is just so cool. And like progressing towards
this idea of having a moon base is awesome because that's really fun. I'm going to mourn the ISS,
but it's cool that we're doing something else. And it's just, it's just,
are you low key kind of excited that there's a Canadian on board? Oh yeah, absolutely. And he's awesome. And all the interviews with him are super cool.
I'm happy he's a part of it. It's really cool that Canada is able to participate in stuff that
NASA does. It's nice to see during a time of somewhat frigid relations. Which has been such
an amazing thing about the ISS the whole time. That Canada and the US are, you know, doing this
together. It's kind of weird that before it was a really cool thing that existed during
rough relations between the US and Russia. And now space travel stuff is a really cool thing to
have during tense relations between the US and Canada. It's like this space stuff just tends to
bring people together, which I think is just so cool. And there's all these quotes of astronauts
going into space and then looking back at Earth and feeling like our petty little squabbles
are not things that we should worry about. And we should be focused on other things because of
this tiny little pale blue dot. And I just, ah, it's so cool. Dark guy too has a really good
message in Floatplane chat says, I think a lot of people just assume that human knowledge is
magically cumulative. Once something's learned, just it's been learned forever. But maintaining
knowledge takes actual effort and tons of stuff has been forgotten. And I think that's a really
important message right now that is being felt very strongly by anyone who still remembers
the events of the early to mid 1940s. We really, we really as a species do not have a species wide
memory and it really does take work to remember things. I'm so, I'm so glad to just see people
working together to do something really cool. And it's just, it's exciting. I like, I haven't
been able to stop just looking at the news about it. It's just exciting and fun and cool and ludicrously
expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I don't know, in like, in like, in like a lost porn kind of way,
it's, it's kind of fun to watch any in that way as well. I had, sorry, I've been struggling on
whether or not I should address this one, but there's a comment in Floatplane Chat,
insist saying getting to the moon is not getting amongst the stars. On the scale of the nearest
star, you essentially haven't left the earth, except you have like the distance between one and a
million. And what I think is a billion is basically a billion is what they're saying. Yeah, the earth
is amongst the stars. So that's fun. But I am considering basically going to outer space at
all, every time watching any launch that goes into outer space, whether it's low orbit or not,
I think is cool and exciting. And this is a form of progress. And there's, there's theory that a base
on the moon could help us get towards Mars and all this other kind of stuff. And we're actually like
doing stuff again. Space progress felt very stagnant for a long time. And SpaceX, in a lot of ways,
really sparked it again, which has been really awesome. And this feels like a really cool step
forward. And NASA actually really doing stuff again, which I think is really cool. Because I
don't personally love the idea of it all becoming privatized. I think they're being both is really
good. That's where I'm currently at. I don't know. I'm sure other people have opinions, but
yeah, it's cool. I'm very, very happy with all this. I'm happy it's so far going really well.
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Prop hunt. That's the one. So I played prop hunt like once on like a stream with someone or something,
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Wow, good news, Wansho, multiple Steam topics. Valve is making changes to how it's handling
regional pricing after users complained about regional, about pricing being 20 to 30% more
expensive in certain regions. Steam's new regional pricing tool has a more up-to-date data for exchange
rates and purchasing power across 37 currencies in four regions. Developers can either automatically
adjust their pricing via exchange rate, purchasing power, or multivariable conversion. And Valve
has said that this most closely matches the method that was previously presented in the
pricing tool. That's the multivariable conversion thing. Publishers can still manually set pricing
if they want to. But yeah, that's cool. Our discussion question is that Canada is often
lumped in with the US as an economic region. So that's why forever LTT has talked about pricing
in terms of US dollars for the products that we're talking about, whether it's phone or laptop or
whatever, because Canadian pricing is not Canadian pricing. It's just US pricing times the Canadian
dollar exchange rate for the most part. There are exceptions. But our question is,
is there such a difference in purchasing power that Canadians should receive different pricing?
I actually kind of think so. It's complicated. Has it always historically been so?
And our incomes tend to be lower, but our healthcare costs, such as they are, when they come
up, generally tend to be lower as well. Our gas prices are higher. It's been funny watching
Americans freak out about big gas prices. It's just like, first time. Yeah, welcome.
Yeah. And then meanwhile, ours are even worse. Yeah, like, dairy's more expensive. There's a lot
of stuff that's just plain more expensive, like cheese. Cheese is so cheap in America. You guys
have no idea how good you have it. God, I love cheese. Yeah, games though. Is our purchasing
power lower enough that we should have probably not? Maybe yes? I don't know. It's tough because
any perspective that we have is going to be skewed by our upbringing, especially our specific region.
It's also very self-serving to say yes. Yeah. I mean, yeah, sure. Yeah. So I'm trying to
be realistic. And I don't know how much, like, I think the average Canadian has less purchasing
power than the average American. That would be a guess. That feels true. After all though,
everything comes out of the wash, I feel like that's probably true. But what about median?
Yeah, I don't know. No idea. Average, I probably, I don't actually know. It's also just so different.
Like, it's actually very, very different being somewhere with
socialized Medicare versus being somewhere without. Yeah, it really depends. It depends.
Do you have a preexisting condition? If you do, you're probably way better off up here,
like way better off up here. Or it depends on your employer too. Like a lot of states have
what's called at-will employment, which blew me away the first time I heard of it. It pretty much
means that unless you're like specifically a protected class and you can make a solid argument
that you were discriminated against in a way that infringes on your personal rights,
your employer can basically just be like, don't bother coming in tomorrow.
Which is like wild to think about in like a modern country. But that's like,
someone says at-will is for all states? I hadn't heard that. I don't, I'm pretty sure that's not
true. Montana is the exception. Okay, well I don't type in all the caps, all states then. It's not
all states. Montana is a state for crying out loud, you guys. I was technically correct,
which we all know is the best kind of correct. Yeah, anyway, so that like blew me away. And it's,
that's really horrible. And then it compounds when you consider that your employer a lot of the time
is tied to like being able to get health care there. Here it's not much. I'm just looking into
things. So like, oh man, employment at-will applies only during six month probationary period is like
a few different states. Yep. State has public policy exemptions. Good faith applies. Like there's,
it's in classic American style. Every single one of them is a fun, unique little snowflake
of their own rules. Dude, when we were figuring out taxation rules back when we were starting
up Floatplane. It's absurd. It sometimes down to a county level. Yeah. It would work differently.
And we're kind of sitting here going, well, this is impossible. Surely there must be a service that
just does all this for you. It's really kind of cool in some ways and just horrible in other ones.
Yeah. As per usual, there's upsides and downsides to basically everything.
I'm not talking about at-will, to be clear. I'm talking about just the states, all the states
being so different. That's wild, man. Yeah. Like, and there's so many ways to manipulate it,
like the whole Vancouver, Washington thing. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, I talked about this a lot
back when we were starting up because I was like, the biggest hack seems to be to just live in the
other Vancouver because Washington had no income tax of any sort at the time. I think they still
don't. I have no idea. And then Vancouver, Vancouver, Washington is right on the border
with Oregon. So a lot of people who live in Vancouver, Washington, from my understanding,
would go shop for groceries and essentials and cars and just like anything down in Oregon state
where they have income tax but no sales tax. So you would get the best of both worlds.
No income tax and no sales tax when you go to buy stuff. Which is just wild. That's so crazy.
And again, I mean, that's like an upside to you as an individual. But as Boom just said,
legal tax evasion, which is like potentially bad for the collective, but then it depends because
what is the collective actually spending their money on? More bombs, I guess. Crystal says,
oh yeah, we're at 6% in Cedar Rapids and then Iowa City 40 minutes away is 7%.
Just, sure. Yeah, that's wonderful.
That's wonderful.
Who knows? Oh man. I know multiple online platforms who have looked at taxation in the states
and just been like, well, this is basically impossible to solve. We'll just wait until
we get in trouble for it. And there are companies who their entire premise is we will help you
deal with taxation in the states. They get it wrong so much. Who can't handle it. They get it wrong
all the time. It's their whole job. Serious problems for us over the years because we actually
try to do things properly. It is, oh man. Can you Avalar and cry? Avalar isn't perfect either.
Oh yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Oh yeah. Avalar gets it right every time. Sure. Sure, buddy.
Wild man. Yeah. Fun times. Yeah, I've learned this lesson so hard,
so bent over, so pants down. Like it's not, yeah, no, no, it's not perfect.
Yeah, blow butane just said my state has 80 counties and technically every county is a
separate tax district. And then you have to scale that across all the states and then be on top
of what every single one of us is doing. And it changes. Oh man. So cool. Very good.
Sick, dude. 3,143 counties. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize Dan's mic wasn't open, I guess.
Yeah, sorry. That's what I was reacting to. All right. Hey, but in other good news,
Neuralink patient plays World of Warcraft with his thoughts. Wow. That's right. Neuralink
continues to improve. We now have a patient playing World of Warcraft using only his mind.
John L. Noble is a veteran who was paralyzed from the shoulders down in 2016. In 2016 is the 18th
patient to receive the Neuralink N1 implant. After receiving the implant in December of 2025,
Noble has been practicing using a MacBook where using it with second nature after just
three weeks of practice. Whoa. By day 80, he decided to try playing. Wow. He says he is
raiding and exploring Azeroth hands-free, full speed, no mouse, no keyboard, just in tension.
And what's crazy about that is like, I've got the video up here. What's crazy about that is like,
you can see at the bottom of his screen here, for people who haven't played before,
all these little tiles, those are different like skills and abilities. So he's using all these
different things. It seems like you can see his mouse cursor. Do you see this thing? I'm trying
to point at it with mine, but you can see like a circle kind of floating around. So it looks like
he's mostly playing the game through. I think right here, I think this is like movement inputs.
I'm not entirely sure. Nope. No, he's moving without that because you can tell he's his
mouse cursor's up there, but he has all these different abilities and he's playing the game
still. And I don't know like, you know, to what degree he's able to do multiple inputs at a time
or whatever. Like I have no idea, but the fact that he can play successfully at all is what you're
doing it. You're letting Elon put some chips in your brain. I don't want him to do it personally,
I know, but you'd put a more interesting baby chip. Yeah, you'd put an Elon backed chip in
your brain. I mean, if I was in this state, I would do it immediately. I would sign up immediately.
Yep. As of this second, no, I don't want to do it for myself, but yeah, dude, if I'm paralyzed,
like sign me up. This sounds amazing. I'm like very happy about that. That sounds really,
really cool. That looks like such a huge quality of life change. Oh yeah, dude. Like I, wow.
Yeah. World changing. Man, can you imagine if he had just stayed focused on doing cool stuff?
There is some, there's some, this is cool. I know, but just the focus. The focus seems to have,
yeah. Yeah. Sorry, I went the wrong direction.
Oh, okay. I want to talk about the 9950X3D2. Yeah. AMD announced this super cool chip.
Okay, we're talking 16s and five cores. We're talking full 3DV cache on both tiles,
got all the 3DV cache. It's a no compromises processor like we've never seen before.
And hear me out. I propose that AMD makes it really expensive. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear
me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hold on. One sec. One sec. I'm going to get there. Okay.
I propose that AMD goes full, like extreme edition, like FX classic on this. They make it,
they make it a really expensive Halo flagship thing that most people can't afford.
They take that money. They take that bushel of money that they got and give us a freaking
modern Ryzen 3 for once in a couple of generations. Did anybody else notice this? Where is Ryzen 3
in the current product stack?
Yeah. Even the Zen 4 generation Ryzen 3 desktop SKUs, the 8300G and the 8300GE,
were only one Zen 4 core and three Zen 4C cores. We haven't had, we don't have a Zen 3,
a Zen 5 Ryzen 3, even though like, when did Zen 5 freaking launch? When did Zen 5 launch?
Remember when AMD used to launch the whole stack and you could buy anything from the,
from a threadripper all the way down to a Ryzen 3 and we were, we were G to G. It was only dictated
by, you know, how much money you had to spend. Zen 5 launched in August of 2024. We are over
two, we're over a year and a half into Zen 5 and we don't have a Ryzen 3 yet.
Bring it back. That'd be sweet. Give me a Ryzen 3 because realistically,
nobody needs this chip. This is not a chip that anybody needs. Pretty cool. Yeah,
I didn't say it's not cool. I said that nobody needs it. Pretty sweet. The 9850 or the 9950X3D
already exists with one 3DV cache die and then a regular one. The 9800X3D exists with
eight cores that are all 3DV cache if you just don't want to deal with any kind of latency issues
across multiple dies. The 9850X3D also exists if you want to slightly faster that. What do you
think they're going to do next? Naming scheme. Oh yeah, we're up to a 10 again. I mean Intel
just went for it and was like, 10 all the things. And then stopped. What did NVIDIA do? NVIDIA skipped
10 and did 20 if I recall correctly, right? No, no, no. 10 was goaded, right? 1080. What am I
talking about? Yeah, super goaded. Windows, Windows just played. We don't need to learn from them.
They went straight from 8.1 to 10. I don't think anybody needs to learn from them. They went for
it for 10. Yeah, 10. Yeah, maybe they just go 10, whatever. Whatever. This is a distraction.
I want a Ryzen 3. So this cool chip sounds super cool and is really interesting. Nobody really
needs it. I'm going to die on that hill. Nobody needs a 9950X3D2. If you're all about the gaming,
you can get a 9800 or 9850X3D. If you're all about the multicore, you can get a 9850X3D02.
You can get the regular one and you could still game and still do multicore things on it all day
if that pleases you. Nobody needs this chip. So AMD, price it really high, take that bushel of money
and use it to make a Zen 5 Ryzen 3. It's time. It's finally time. Do it, do it, do it, do it,
do it, do it, do it, do it, no balls, do it, do it. That's it. I just wanted to talk about that.
I don't know how to pronounce this. Why barrel did buyer did something on full plane chats? It
pointed out that a during the WAN Show, assuming we don't kill it in the next couple minutes,
but like during the WAN Show, the Artemis 2 will be closer to the moon than to earth.
Pretty cool. I was looking at the speed that we're going. Like how many thousands of miles
per second it was or whatever. A lot of people realized during that lunch how freaking far away
the moon is because they're like, wait, wait, why isn't it that close to the moon yet? It's like,
yeah, it's going to be a while, dude. It's, yeah. Yeah. What's the speed of it? Speed of our
Artemis 2 per second. Oh, it's like 20. It's like completely obscene. 25,000 miles per hour or roughly
seven miles per second. Sorry, I had that wrong before. According to AI overview, hold on a second.
Okay, Wikipedia. I thought it was 24 something is what it's currently. Let's see.
25,000 miles per hour says Wikipedia. 4,000 kilometers an hour. That's like,
it's just, it's unfathomable to go 11 kilometers a second. Freaking think about 11 kilometers.
Okay, I'm going on Google Maps. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm on Google Maps, boys.
Okay, time to not have anything. Those numbers are wrong. Oh, cool. Are they? Someone at
Volbinchast just yelling. No, it's fine down. I checked. Okay. Okay, so hold on. Where's the
where's the little? Yes. Here we go. This is a cool site, issinfo.net slash Artemis.
That's so cool. What it is cool. But you can see, so they're listing the velocity in kilometers
and seconds. So not how we were just doing it, but 1.39 kilometers per second. That's
wild. And yeah, you can see the earth and moon differences. So the earth is currently
217,500 kilometers away and the moon is currently 22,855 kilometers away. What a cool website.
So check this out. Check this out. Yeah. Okay, at this scale on Google Maps. Okay,
one kilometer is right here. Yeah. All right. It ends like right there. It ends like,
oh, no, it ends a little farther. Oh, man. Okay, get rid of us, Dan. Forget it.
Ah, everything I own in a box. But he has to worry about me. Oh, okay. There, fine. Okay,
you happy? Also, you don't have to do work. I understand. I get it. Okay. So that's a kilometer.
That's a kilometer. So this is probably about 15 clicks, 15 seconds to go from Langley to Aldergrove.
Oh, what? That's pretty sick. Like what? That's fantastic. Yeah. At the current moment,
the velocity, I realized on here, sorry, I didn't notice this, but there's a little
switch here. You can switch from kilometers to miles. And for some reason, the velocity
comes, goes from kilometers per second to miles per hour. But sure. So in miles per hour, it's at
effectively 3,100. Well, that's because kilometers per second is meters per second,
which is science-y stuff. Yeah. That actually kind of checks out for Americans that use metric
for stuff that matters and then use Imperial for daily life. Sure. But yeah, it will cross the
threshold of being closer to the moon than the Earth during land show, which is just so sick.
Godspeed. So cool. Day three of 10. Lunar fly by in two days, 21 hours and 39 minutes. Can't
hardly wait. Sick. Man, I can't believe they're going to like, like human eyes on the back.
It's cool. It's freaking sweet. Very cool. You know what else is kind of cool? It's hard to not
be inspired by this stuff, man. Like you see like... He's going to do it again. Oh, yeah. I mean,
we did this once already in the show. Honestly, it's by grace that you're only getting two so far.
Yeah. I've seen a bunch of sentiment online of people being genuinely like positively inspired
by something that's happening in the world, which is so rare right now. And I think worth just so,
so much. I'll keep it at that. But yeah, it's awesome. Agreed. Really awesome. Anthropic. The
company behind cloud, which is how I pronounce it, accidentally leaked the entire source code of
cloud code that AI powered coding assistant on March 31st. It was not an April Fool's joke.
The leak happened because someone at Anthropic left a source map file in the npm package for
cloud code version 2.1.88. Source maps are debugging tools that aren't supposed to ship in production,
and this one pointed to a zip archive on Anthropic's own cloud storage containing the full code base.
Technical background on source maps. Basically, when code gets compiled for distribution, it becomes
unreadable, and a source map is a reference file that links the scrambled code back to the original,
so including one is essentially handing out directions to your entire code base.
Security researcher Chau Fan Xu spotted it and shared the finding publicly. Within hours,
the code was mirrored across GitHub, being forked 50,000 times before Anthropic could do anything
about it. Anthropic confirmed the leak in a statement, saying,
this was a release packaging issue caused by human error, not a security breach.
And that no customer data or credentials were exposed. Anthropic then filed DMCA notices against
over 8,000 GitHub repositories, but accidentally took down thousands of legitimate forks of their
own public repo in the process, forcing them to walk back most of the takedowns. I mean,
I can see how during a crisis, people might just kind of be, it rarely makes the crisis better,
but I understand it. Meanwhile, a clean slate rewrite called Claw Code hit 10,000 stars in a
single day, making it the fastest growing repository in GitHub history. This is actually the second
time that Cloud's cloud code source has been exposed in just over a year. Our discussion
question, it feels like the advent of vibe coding is expanding the threat surface for digital
infrastructure, creating opportunities for malicious actors to damage in front, also
for own goal situations like this. Do you think there's a point where we turn the corner and
walk back the fragility we've built into these systems? Very funny, no. Very optimistic, though.
Thank you for writing that discussion question. What else do we have, Mr. Luke?
Let's see here. That one's kind of... Microsoft didn't convince me, but Microsoft says it's going
to... Hold on, no, before you start, before you start. Okay, I gotta...
Fuck, it says it's going to improve Windows search.
Sure. I like it. Microsoft's Pavan Daveluri recently released a blog post entitled,
Our Commitment to Windows Quality. I think we talked about that on WAN,
where numerous pledges were made to improve the current state of Windows. Windows shell
product head, Tali Roth, has been actively replying to user feedback, claiming improvements
coming to Windows search, stating simpler and less distracting are definitely in the mix.
Some of the focuses Microsoft is working on are that install the apps appear instantly and consistently.
Core system components are always discoverable,
and local files are ranked higher than external suggestions.
Wow, how the fuck did it take you this long? This is my naive, I believe you face,
by the way, that I've been doing this whole time. How are we supposed to trust a company
that didn't prioritize all of that in the first place? Insane.
This is still good news WAN news, though, because
publicly acknowledging it... At least they're saying it. At least they... It's a step.
At least they know. It's a step.
It's a step, at least, vaguely in the correct direction. I don't know if I'm going to say
confidently enough that it is in the right direction. I hope so. Because there hasn't... I haven't seen the action from it yet.
Angry Panda PC says, how hard was this? Maybe it's not a step.
We're going to stop the orphan grinding machine.
It's like, why did you have one?
I thank you, but why? Why was it ever turned on in the first place?
And who kept putting orphans in it? So I think it's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kit in full point chat said, intentions of a step. I think that's more accurate.
It's not that they stepped in the right direction. It's maybe that they, like, looked that way at least once and thought about it. They're thinking about it.
No key in the chat. It's almost like indexing search and making it offline only was
the whole point of search.
Yeah. That's what an index does, isn't it?
Am I misunderstanding? Desperately, desperately, never need search to look at the internet, ever.
And it shouldn't for anyone. And that sucks. I wouldn't mind it as a toggle.
Sure. Toggle would be fine. That's right. It's right there. That starts off. It's right there.
That would be fine. And it should use whatever browser I tell it and not ever change it,
ever, not even one time.
Yeah. Okay. That was the most angry I've ever been about good news.
But it's still good news. I'm still feeling good. It's that whole pain of fixing thing.
They might be fixing it. It might be happening, but it's been so long and so frustrating and so
annoying that it just, it's, you know, you rip the band-aid off. It feels bad.
You cut open in order to surgery that is painful. It feels bad.
You need to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's like, there's negative parts to fixing things.
And I think this has been so frustrating for so long.
And there's been so many seemingly bad intentions involved that it's just...
Anyways. This is cool. Researchers have developed ground penetrating Wi-Fi tech with a 100 meter range.
This magnetic induction method of transmitting signals underground could help reach people who
are trapped or lost. South Korea's Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute has
demonstrated wireless communication 100 meters underground using magnetic induction rather than
traditional radio frequencies, which get absorbed by soil and rock pretty much immediately.
The system uses a one meter loop transmitting antenna on the surface and a small handheld
receiving sensor and was tested in a limestone environment specifically chosen because it's
one of the worst possible conditions for radio signals. The data rate is not high,
just two to four kilobits per second, but that's enough for voice communication.
ETRI is already working to shrink the technology into something that could fit in a smartphone
with potential applications in mine rescues and underground construction.
Our discussion question is they're already looking at putting it in smartphones.
Well, if magnetic induction can punch through 100 meters of solid rock,
what does that mean for connectivity in places that have never had it before?
I remember I did a really cool course in high school that was just called technology.
Imagine, you know, me being interested in that. And our final project was a submarine.
So you had to put three motors on it so that it would have full six axes of movement.
You had to achieve neutral buoyancy. So the final exam for it was you had to put it into a tank.
It had to never touch the top, never touch the bottom. And then you had to like...
Actually sounds pretty complicated for high school. ...navigate. That's cool. Yeah, it was super cool. That's wicked.
It was simpler than it sounds because like our controller or so part of the project was
waterproofing the motors. So we embedded them in film canisters, which were a thing when I was in high school.
We embedded... They were readily available. We embedded them in film canisters and then sealed them in like paraffin wax.
So we had to make the motors waterproof. Then we had to run lines to them.
And we just had like an umbilical cord that went up to a controller
that was essentially just three toggle switches. So you could toggle your motor forward, off, or backwards.
And anyway, so yeah, you had to like do a thing and it had to not touch the surface,
not touch the walls of the tub, and not touch the bottom, not bathtub, like a tank.
Anyway, it was a real hassle. That umbilical cord, f*** that umbilical cord sideways.
I got a good mark and I did manage to achieve the mission objective,
but it wasn't exactly flexible.
And so having that umbilical cord on it sucked, could we use this for underwater?
Oh, very interesting. Like controls and stuff, that'd be cool.
Livestreams underwater right now, you have to run a cable.
Yeah. Yeah, you just have to... Just communication in general, my understanding is you just like have to run a cable.
Yeah. That would be so cool. Yeah.
Ooh, ooh, ooh, lowlander.
Yeah. Land party in a cave. Yeah. I don't know what the appetite would be for that type of content.
I think. It's one of the first things that our dear friend Austin Evans sent me this morning.
Spacelander.
He goes uh, Highlander to my friend, because he saw yesterday's video.
Oh, yeah. So for those who are relatively new to the channel, we hiked to the top of Mount Albert,
with some of our friends in the tech space, including Austin Evans,
and we got a Guinness World Record for the world's highest elevation land party,
which was actually broken, which I love.
Because in a way that legitimizes the fact that anyone else even wanted to,
legitimizes what we did in my opinion. Yeah.
We got one, I wouldn't call it good news.
I don't know what kind of news to call it because... Dude, sorry, one sec.
With portable routers.
Oh, the military apparently uses ultra low frequency RF for underwater,
but I don't know, would this be better? Anyway, carry on. With portable routers, and if you don't want to count phones,
like steam decks and stuff, it would be so much easier these days.
Because we had that like lead acid battery. Oh yeah, like to do a land party?
Oh yeah, 100%. With like little tiny puck routers and stuff now?
Oh yeah. Anyways. Okay, so basically what I am trying to, what I'm trying to understand here,
there's a bit of growing antagonism towards ubiquity, the networking company.
So let's go through this and then let's talk about it,
because I'm trying to wrap my brain around it a little bit here. Members of the self-described anti-authoritarian art movement, Pussy Riot,
have occupied ubiquity's Manhattan headquarters, accusing the American tech company of powering Russian war crimes.
Since the disabling of Starlink, Russian soldiers have been said
to favor ubiquity hardware as a replacement. Which I must say is automatically confusing.
So just a second, just a second. Oh, it's the long range dishes.
Sure, it's just not the same thing though. It's not.
The group has demanded that ubiquity obey US sanctions,
acknowledge Russian military use, work with Ukraine to stop it.
Yahoo Finance noted back in January that ubiquity products were legally sold in Russia
until February of 2022. Also noted that ubiquity relies heavily on third-party distribution and sales partners
rather than making direct sales to end users. Okay, okay, this is one of the things that I had wanted to talk about.
Because I heard about this a long time ago, but that was my understanding, was that they weren't selling it.
Okay, so this kind of showed up in my Twitter feed a little bit,
and I was like, okay, hold on a second.
And I'm wondering if the people demanding this understand fully what they're asking for.
Right now, ubiquity is one of the few.
And at their scale, the only network infrastructure companies that is not
trying to turn everything into a gate kept cloud subscription service for the hardware that you
bought. With like insane amounts of them having the ability to track and sniff and blah, blah, blah, blah.
And shut down hardware that you own. Yeah.
It feels to me like ubiquity.
I have not seen any actual evidence that ubiquity is complicit in any way.
They're certainly profiting. If their third-party resellers are buying ubiquity equipment and breaking the law and
selling it to Russia. And they could be, they could know what one of those third-party sellers is facilitating
that and still be working with them. I have no idea.
They might. And that would be a bad, but I have no idea.
I haven't seen evidence of that yet.
However, it feels like, however, I don't believe that ubiquity has taken any actual direct
action to profit from this conflict.
And I'm a little confused about sort of the demands here because it feels to me like what
we're asking is for a ubiquity to put in backdoor controls that allow network infrastructure
to just be turned off remotely because we don't agree with what the user is doing with it.
Am I missing something? This is one of those ones that I am very open to.
I don't understand all the dynamics. The All Mighty Q in full-plane chat said there's reportedly a call with a UI,
in this case, ubiquity, sales rep saying, yes, we can send product to Russia.
And it did not specify that it was third-party.
I've asked them for a link.
Okay, but even if that were the case, there was this one time that an LMG employee said
something that doesn't necessarily mean that leadership knew or approved or agreed.
I mean, if that is a thing that's actively happening, that's still something that you
can get up in arms about and then expect them to make a change. Right, but what change are you going to ask for?
Do you want them to be able to turn off their network switches? No, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.
Oh, I understand. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, sure.
Like if this is a thing that's happening, even if leadership doesn't know, then they can deal with it.
So, when Bingo Chronified says, shutting off remote drone connections, if they're committing
war crimes feels incredibly chaotic, good to me, but the problem is, if they can shut off that one,
then they can shut off any other one and ubiquity- Yeah, theoretically, ubiquity would have no ability to do that.
Right, which to my knowledge, at this time, do not have that built into any of their platforms.
So, we're asking them to do something that in order for them to do, they would have to
fundamentally change their approach of that when you buy a piece of ubiquity equipment,
you own it and do stuff that you see fit with it.
It's also such a false equivalency. Like, ubiquity is long-range communication dishes and stuff.
It's so incredibly not Starlink. It's not Starlink. It's not low-earth orbit internet.
It's from one fixed position to another.
And, yeah, just Kisul Wildcat says, just stop selling to Russia.
Right, but if it's going through a third party, ubiquity is not selling to Russia.
I mean, if they actually are, then like, okay.
Yeah, I mean, if they are, then that's terrible and
I just, I haven't seen evidence.
So, yeah, Kisul Wildcat says it's not third party.
But how do you know? Yeah. You're assuming that because the equipment is new that it's direct.
And we're waiting right now, so, well, maybe the stream just went down.
But we're waiting right now. So, if you guys have a link to any of this, that would be interesting.
AlmightyQ just linked. Yeah.
Slam's ubiquity for products that keep showing up on the front lines.
Okay. Do we have proof that they know?
Or anything about it? How it's getting there.
I mean, theoretically, okay, could they track a serial number by who they sold it to?
I mean, the thing to remember to those that even the ubiquity reseller may not know.
Like, it's not like countries like Russia or Iran, countries that are constantly sanctioned,
it's not like they're not familiar with the game of buying half a dozen here and half a dozen here
and half a dozen here and half a dozen here that make it extremely difficult to narrow down exactly
which one of your resellers is doing it or even knows.
I really do feel like we might be oversimplifying this.
This is slightly out of topic, but I thought it was really funny.
Yeah. A dose in full-point chat linked this picture.
I thought it was pretty good. Cisco firewall, the protective against Chinese backdoors.
Huawei firewall, the protective against US backdoors. Checkpoint firewall, the protective against Russian backdoors.
Fortinet firewall, the protective against Israeli backdoors. Palo Alto firewall.
I don't know. The cool kids have them. PF Sense firewall for good luck. And then finally, the internal network.
Yeah. I didn't find a call, but I did find this. Balrid says they've been doing stuff like this for decades.
Yeah. Pretty much.
I don't know, man, because we work with ubiquity a fair bit.
And so, you know, I want to know if this is a huge problem.
So Wildcat keeps saying the Russians are fielding new equipment in huge volumes.
So that doesn't actually mean anything. Ubiquity manufactures networking equipment in huge volumes.
Like that doesn't mean that ubiquity is selling it direct.
You just keep saying the same thing that doesn't change anything though.
Okay. The almighty Q says more than a decade after ubiquity was fined for reckless disregard for
sanctions obligations when its products ended up in Iran, Hunter Brook found ubiquity products
may still be flowing there. Current official distributor listed on ubiquity's website, Yemen based alpha tech maybe operating
branches in Shiraz and Tehran, according to its own Persian language advertisements.
In 2014, regulators found ubiquity after at least 600 grand of prohibited equipment was
diverted to sanctioned something, I think, that got cut off by.
Okay. So we're going to have to, clearly, we're going to have to look into a little bit more.
But what I will say is that if ubiquity knows, that's terrible.
Step one. And step two, if the thing we're asking for is for them to have central control of the
networking equipment that they sell, I don't know that I can get behind that.
Yeah. I don't know if they do or not, but yeah.
If they do have, if they are able to turn off networking equipment remotely?
Oh, no, no, no, sorry. To my knowledge, they can't. I thought you were saying something else, my bad.
I only heard part of what you said. Nokia said, I didn't find a call, but I did find this, a screenshot from an email response from
a sales manager from NAG, an online IT retailer that sells ubiquity items and was once an
official ubiquity reseller, also known as they aren't now.
According to an archived 2014 ubiquity webpage in the email, the sales manager clarified that
delivery to the occupied territories would take seven or eight days. It's like, okay, like if we, if we.
This seems like non-tech people not really understanding what they're protesting for the
most part, but that's what it seems like, unless ubiquity knows and is facilitating this in any
way. We also haven't exactly done like an overwhelming amount of research here to.
No, we haven't. That's why I presented this the way I did.
Like I'm, I'm, I'm taking only conditional positions here because I do not have all of
the information that I would need. Yeah. And, uh, Drac Ryu, I've heard this as well, somewhat infamously, the US bought titanium
from the Russians to build the SR 71 to use against the Russians.
Yeah, I remember that. The, the government set up shell companies to buy things from a foreign enemy to counter
the foreign enemy. Like, I don't know. But then that being said, like, like we were saying earlier, if they're doing this knowingly,
like if ubiquity is very, if they're like, oh yeah, this distributor very obviously just
resells their stuff to Russia, then they should stop working with them.
Okay. This seems to show good details. All right. I'm going to check this out.
Okay. I mean, we can, we can take this offline because we've, uh, we've got to get to when after dark.
Mr. Dan, you want to do the thing? Oh yeah, sure.
If we're there, let's do that.
Yeah. Maybe people don't understand the products that ubiquity is selling because like this link
that was like, oh, this one has good detail. It's like ubiquity has stayed silent unlike SpaceX, SpaceX who has the ability to turn
it off, ubiquity who doesn't. And it's CEO Robert Para, owner of Memphis Grizzlies, sure, have not publicly commented on it.
If I was him, I wouldn't. Yeah. What is there to say? It's the world's most prominent manufacturer of Wi-Fi bridges.
Like, is he going to, like, is he going to sit down and explain to people how networking works?
He can. I actually had dinner with him once. He's a super smart guy.
Yeah, yeah. Obiquities products appear to be widely available in Russia, mostly sourced from distributors
in, it says, third countries, such as Kazakhstan and Turkey, Hunterbrook found.
One Ukrainian communications officer told the outlet that an estimated 80% of the Russian
bridges he observed near the front line had come from ubiquity.
Russian units often receive the bridges from volunteers who purchase them using crowdfunded
money. So like, what are we talking about?
Oh my God. I don't know.
Again, there might be more information other than this, but like. So ubiquity made a thing.
I mean, this to me feels a little bit like, you know,
storming Linus Torvalds' home office because sanctioned countries are using Linux.
Like, I just, what do you want them to do about it?
And I'm, like I said, we've worked with ubiquity. This is a full disclosure, guys.
We've worked with ubiquity extensively in the past. If they are actually participating in this, then, yeah, condemn.
But I haven't seen any actual evidence of it. And it was so awesome when they lost Starlink access.
The impact of that was enormous. Like, I wouldn't want this to be helping them, obviously.
But like, if, if, you know, if it came out that a bunch of Russian soldiers had LTT backpacks,
because people were crowdsourced buying LTT backpacks.
Shipping them to like Pakistan or something.
The LTT backpacks. So like, I don't know. And there might be more to this story.
There absolutely could be more to this story. There might be information that we don't have right now.
You know, Floating Chat linking us stuff is, is usually pretty good,
but it might not have all of the information. Someone linked the call from the vendor.
You can't necessarily listen to this right now, but it's also a call from a vendor, right?
It's theoretically not them.
Um, okay. I don't think we have to stay on this topic any longer.
Sure. For now. If they do know that distributors that they're working with are doing this,
then I expect them to stop working with them. Cool.
Cool. Mr. Dan!
Oh wow, your fingers are still busy over there. Yeah, I was not expecting to do 400 today.
Did we move through the rest of the coins?
We did quite a few. I don't, I'm surprised that people didn't think that they were, you know.
I mean, we did launch it on March 31st, North America time.
I think we ended up launching our April Fool's joke around like two hours after it was April 1st in the first time zone.
So a lot of people were like not ready for it and like legitimately butt hurt about us doing an ICO or being acquired.
I had, I had one person, I think I actually, did I, did I send this one to you or did I just screenshot?
It was so funny. That was pretty funny.
I don't know if everyone's gonna, yeah, but that was pretty funny.
Where is it? The funny part was that the writing style was so exactly identical
that it's like obviously the same person.
Hold on, I'm not sure which comment you're talking about the, I'm talking about the one where, oh no, not that, not that.
Someone was like explaining to me, like mansplaining.
They wrote me a whole paragraph, mansplaining, that a company called FOMO Foundry, literally it's FOMO.
It's like about capitalizing on people's fear of missing out.
And it's so, it's so negative.
And it's like, bro, yes, that's the joke.
My God, I just can't right now.
Oh man, yeah, yes, we get it.
Oh man, yeah.
I feel like a lot of the criticism that we take for stuff like this
centers on people thinking they are so much smarter than us
that we couldn't have possibly understood their analysis of the thing that we
gave to them to understand. And you know, we do miss things sometimes, but.
Oh man. Yeah, maybe just, maybe just go touch some grass.
Are we doing this topic? Which one?
I don't know, I don't know. Well, it feels like more like part of After Dark.
Okay, question for you. Sure. Should LTT, GamerJet, Q&A be a Wanshow topic?
Or should it realistically just be a follow-up video? Because people have a lot of questions about it.
Oh, follow-up video is not a terrible idea. Yeah.
I mean, is it a terrible idea? It might be a terrible idea.
Maybe it's a terrible idea. Do you want to talk about it more?
I mean, there's clearly a lot of things that people want to know about.
I'm just trying to, Chewy sent me a couple things. Like he sent me a couple like summary things.
What's he saying? Do it, coward. Do it, coward. Is that a dare?
Oh, what's the Disney character? Who's that? Who's that?
Who's Fawcett? Is that a challenge? Would the follow-up video be technically based,
or is it just talking about the fact that you bought a jet?
It would be answering people's questions about it. So like some of the things that have come up, for instance.
And I don't know if I would do another video. Like how do you reconcile this with past stances on The Land Show, for instance?
Yeah. So I wouldn't do a video on that. I just covered on The Land Show. What else? My reasoning for that is I think,
I think LTT's channel has been semi-losing its way for a bit.
We've talked about this quite a bit. Yeah. And I think a Q&A about the jet that you bought isn't
sparking a passion for technology. I'm way more interested in like talking about the AI trend
and like memory prices going down. Exactly. Quite frankly. So I wouldn't make a dedicated video on that.
Sure. That's taking up an upload slot. We can talk about it on The Land Show.
You should address the questions on The Land Show, all that kind of stuff for sure.
Sure. But. So, okay, for starters, there's a few things that I already know.
So you guys don't have to type it in the Floatplane chat. Or actually, Dan, is there a bunch of stuff in the checkout messages about this?
Should we just do this after and see what we end up addressing already?
I said mostly that it was going to be in a topic in the future. But most of them were going to end up being sort of questions that you would pretty much
answer anyway. Okay. So there's a lot of questions about like moderation across our social platforms
in the days leading up to the big reveal.
And the simple answer to that is that between the third party moderation teams who are
community volunteers, our team internally, and me,
we didn't have clear alignment on what was moderated, what wasn't moderated.
But where it all came from was from a place of, for the love of God guys,
we're announcing this in like two days. Can we just, can we have our fun and can we make a big announcement?
And can we make a splash on April Fools? So it was for.
We work really hard to make our April Fools very, very big and very special every year.
And so I think there ended up being a little bit of confusion about,
because we've allowed some threads to stay up about it. Yeah.
But they've been small. They've not really gained a ton of momentum and they were a long time ago.
And it makes sense that in the like days leading up to the big announcement that,
you know, yeah, obviously people were going to, people have known for months.
Some people have known literally for months that our April Fools this year was going to involve
the tech jet. The Reddit knew. Yes. For months.
Classic Reddit. Yeah. You did it Reddit.
So in terms of, in terms of moderation regarding the jet, I don't really think there
is any guidelines with respect to moderation of the jet.
What's your other then? Yes. I was going to say, what is your ongoing?
Yeah, ongoing. I would say anything that in any way compromises the safety or comfort of anyone on our team,
me, my family, anyone to do with that is just obviously like no doi going to be immediately
removed and immediately permaband. Like that's just kind of obvious.
I've, I've had some people, you know, ask how to reconcile that with previous statements
that I've made on the WAN Show. And I think that's pretty simple.
I never claimed that I was running a platform that allowed absolutely any speech.
Never said that. And it's not true today.
So by all means, you know, do whatever you're going to do, but that doesn't entitle you to do it on
our forum or on our subreddit or in our videos, anything like that.
I've had a lot of people ask about, okay, what's your strategy with respect to carbon credits?
And I'm going to tell you guys the exact same thing that I told the writing team because
we had kind of an impromptu chat between me and the writers because they're the ones who are
probably going to be most impacted by it because their projects potentially they're going to be,
you know, coming with me or, you know, doing whatever, like they're the ones that are most
likely to use along with the production crew. And so one of the things that came up was like, okay, well, you know,
someone not going to name any names, basically it was like, okay, well, what are we doing about
carbon offsets? And then someone immediately was like, those are bulls**t it.
And they kind of started arguing about it. And I said, hey guys, that right there is why just like any charitable stuff that we do,
that's going to stay between me and Yvonne because no matter what I say about it,
it's going to make someone extremely angry. And I just don't, I don't feel like it.
I don't feel like having that conversation. It's going to be Schrodinger's how we're handling this and whatever works for your head cannon,
you can tell yourself that. So we're going to leave that alone.
I've been asked how I reconcile saying that I was against it before.
I've said both that I'm against it and I have also said that I'd like to try it.
Did you say that you'd like to try it publicly? Yeah, it's on my show.
That was on my show. Yeah, it's on my show clip. I said, I said I'd like to try it.
As for the justification, I like Warren Buffett's line.
So I'm going to steal it. He called his first jet the indefensible.
Okay. I don't, I don't think there's any justification.
What justification? What I will say is that from a business standpoint, it has been far less stupid
than I might have initially imagined.
That trip down to San Francisco for ARM was done in a single day.
We went down there in the morning, very early in the morning, didn't love that part,
but we went down there in the morning. We were able to attend the keynote.
We saw the entire event. We saw the demos. We wrote a script.
We shot it. We flew home early, which has never happened before.
And this is while the US airports were a complete cluster bomb.
Have you been able to sleep on the plane yet? No, it's a funny thing.
I, this didn't end up making it into the video that I shot with Elijah, but
in some ways it's actually a little bit, there's one way that it is a little bit
less comfortable and that is the social pressure because I kind of feel like I'm
hosting everyone else who's on it. I don't think you'd need to, but I understand.
I know, but I mean, you've seen it. Like even, even our cabin crew member, like I, you know, I don't want to be, I don't,
I never want to be rude, you know, and I feel like it's like if someone was in my
living room and I was just napping, I'd feel really awkward.
And so far I'm not over that at all on it. Okay.
I managed to get about 15 minutes of shot eye on the way down to the ARM event,
but that was only because I had wicked insomnia the night before and I functionally hadn't slept.
And even then I only was able to sleep for like a little bit.
I just want to see if there's, there's, there's a couple things that I had written down that
people are bringing up a lot that I'd want to kind of talk about.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay.
No, yeah, I think, I think that's about it.
Um, all right. Dan, was there anything else in like, um, I almost called them checkout chats.
No. Did. Okay. Checkout messages. Here's a question. Yeah. The, the WAN Show where you said that you were against it and the WAN Show where you
said that you'd be interested in trying it. I think those are different WAN shows if I recall correctly.
Is there a, what's the chronological order of that? Oh, I actually don't know.
Interesting. I didn't look that close.
Cause I wonder like what, what do you think might have changed?
I know part of it was being surprised or this particular deal or whatever, being so good.
Is that, is that, do you think that's the majority ever? Do you think something else changed?
Um, I think it's a combination of things. I think it's the, it's the deal being way better than I expected.
Um, and honestly, the biggest one is my uncle being involved.
So I've got, there's a couple of people in Floatplane chat that are asking about, uh,
how are we handling pilots? So my uncle is a pilot.
Dude, his line in the video, he's always like that.
How do you, how do you make something so simple, so complicated or whatever he said?
He is one of the funniest people I've ever met. He's so funny.
And he's just, he's like such a, he has such a, um, almost serious until you know him.
Like he could be almost like kind of serious and a little scary until you know him really well.
And you realize that he's like such a joker.
I don't know. He's, he's, he's really cool. I wish, I wish he wanted to be on camera because you guys would freaking love him.
He's, uh, he's awesome anyways. So he's, uh, so he's handling the operation.
He's a pilot. He has mechanic experience as well.
Like he's just so experienced. And what I said in the video was true.
He told me, don't do it, but if you're going to do it, let's do this together.
I'm literally going to drop everything. Like he was working and he's like, I'm just going to not renew my contracts and let's do it.
And, um, he has made it accessible.
A lot of people have pointed out that I don't have private aircraft money.
And that is extremely true. Um, like obviously I've, I've done okay.
Obviously, but the kinds of people, the kinds of people that I encounter,
you know, in the little, the little FBOs, the little like private airports and stuff,
they don't dress like me. They don't talk like they don't behave like me.
I feel extremely out of place. They got really fancy hair.
Yeah. I mean, did you feel a little out of place? Yeah.
Remember the carpet they rolled out for that dog? Yeah.
You were there for that one, right? I think so. Or you told me, I don't remember if this is a manufactured memory or not.
Yeah. Anyway, um, so doing this with my uncle and him enabling it
through just safety first, but just being, being scrappy and, and finding ways to make it
economical, um, has been really fun. I've learned so much, like so much.
I think the most, the most fun I had was when we were flying back from New York and I,
man, I didn't know there was a third seat. Yeah. Yeah. But when I just sat there talking to them, because I just hunched there.
I thought I was inconvenient. Yeah. Not sat there. I was, I was standing hunched over their, their seats.
I thought I was inconveniencing them, but then every time I'd go to leave, they'd keep talking
to me and then I ended up staying there for a really long time. You were there for like two plus hours, I think.
Yeah. After a while, I kind of got the, the, the, the vibe that I was not inconveniencing them.
And then I just hung out for a long time and it was really fun talking to them about how
the machine to use his language, how the machine works.
Cause like that's going to be way more interesting to me than anything else.
Oh, 100%. And just hearing all the theory and watching them go through the motions of, of how, how
you deal with like logging fuel usage and, and dealing with weather events through the course
of, I didn't realize you would have a chart of all of the different expected weather events
for the entire trip. And then you'd have to compare that against what it actually felt like.
And they have the old school way and they have their iPads.
Yeah. And one of them would do the old school written way and the other one would do the iPad way.
And then they would compare notes. And so the whole thing was, that was very fun.
That was actually, that was super cool.
And then the last piece was the content piece.
And I actually really wish I'd talked about this more in the video, but this has already
unlocked the ability to do things that just would have been either from a shoot.
What's the term for it? A opportunity cost standpoint, or from just a time and logistic standpoint, completely
impossible. We wouldn't have been able to do the WAN Show live from Zero Trust World with Threat Locker,
if it wasn't for this. Luke, this is hilarious. He made a comment as we were, as we were going back to the airport in order to fly back that
last time he went down to Zero Trust World, he spent so long traveling to get down there
that we were already leaving by the time he would have still been traveling to arrive there.
That was a bit of a special thing because I landed, I had a connection through Toronto
and that was when the plane and the helicopter smacked into each other or something.
I think that was the one, but the whole airport was having disaster and then I had to have to
stay there overnight and all this kind of stuff. Still, that did happen.
It's also kind of difficult, as far as I understand it goes, to get a direct flight
from Vancouver to Florida. Being able to just do it yourself is a pretty big skip in regards to time.
It's pretty crazy.
From a business standpoint, there have already been multiple things that we've kind of looked
at and gone, this is less stupid than it might initially seem.
That's very stupid, of course, but then this is another thing.
Maybe not as stupid as you thought. This is another thing that I wish I had talked about more in the video,
but it was a very free wheel. It wasn't scripted. Elijah and I were just hanging out and checking it out.
He'd never seen it yet. There was a couple of points where I thought it was scripted. No, it's not scripted.
Okay. Yeah, we're just that good.
Yeah, it's intended to be very temporary.
How long do you kind of want to keep it for? Well, my uncle's getting older.
He's not going to be flying forever.
This was the window. If I wanted to cosplay as a billionaire or Taylor Swift or whatever, by the way,
fun fact, this is another thing I now have in common with Taylor Swift.
He loves this. Big thighs and both of us once at some point owned a Falcon 900B.
She apparently used to have a Falcon 900B. She has a way better jet now, but yeah.
I thought that was funny. I immediately asked if they had the same one, but apparently no.
No, not this one. I was looking to ask, is there a thing like, I know there's a decent amount of pilots that
aren't the youngest. Is that a profession that you age out of earlier though?
It feels like it could be. It depends. So for commercial, you age out sooner.
And then for things like firefighting, which is
really, really, really challenging work from my understanding, you can age out of later.
And then corporate aviation, you age out of later.
So like the big, well, the big jumbo jets with hundreds of people on them,
you age out of first is my understanding. So it's not difficulty, it's risk.
So my uncle is allowed to do what we're doing as long as his health continues to check out.
And whatever limitations there are, I'm not an expert on the subject.
I've just learned what I've learned from talking to him about it.
This is it. This is the window. This was our opportunity to do this.
This is one of those things that I've seen a lot of feedback about, well,
couldn't you have used that to pay people more? We've talked extensively about our compensation over the last little while,
and how does LMG spend money? We're above norms.
If someone is not making as much as they would have liked here,
then I've made it very clear in the past, then you should have a conversation about whatever that is, whatever reason that is.
We've scaled our comp both individually and across the entire company very healthily,
especially when you consider the overall macroeconomic conditions over the last few years.
The numbers are just the numbers. And if there's someone who disagrees, then they might need to do some introspection at some point
about why their number was their number. That's all.
And I don't wish anybody ill will, really do want the best for everyone who's here,
whether it's here, whether it's somewhere else. And that's totally fine, and that's totally healthy to move on and do something somewhere else as well.
But in terms of sort of the cost here, it's not coming out of what we would have spent for HR at all.
It's coming directly out of what would have normally been profit for the company.
Okay.
So when we calculate our profit,
we're not going to compare this year to last year
without taking it out, basically.
Okay. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, and it's not a sustainable thing forever as well.
I recognize that this is not something that we're going to be able to do forever.
My uncle is not going to be able to do this forever. But while it's happening, it's been pretty cool to hang with him and do this together.
So if something happens negatively because of company performance,
the jet would have been deleted from that equation. So last year was a tricky year.
I mean, we talked about this in our all hands recently. Q1 went really well.
It ended up being a perfect storm, the shipstorm sale event,
like practically saved the year last year. And then our projections for the rest of the year were actually looking really good,
because we were way ahead due to shipstorm. And then what is it that corporate leaders like to call it?
Headwinds? Oh, yeah. I mean, it's an apt metaphor right now.
Headwinds hit, but the trigger had already been pulled.
There was no real backing out at that point. Because we've talked on Wancho about how the channels are doing worse and stuff.
Yep. But I mean, if you look at LTT channel over the last month-ish,
it's been a bloodbath, to be completely honest.
There was the MacBook video and the Linux video that just banged.
And then Blotware did okay. And then TikTok Teptics did really well as well.
Yep, that'll be a slow burn. That one will do really well in the long term.
And then it started to just kind of like, the fire truck video was rough.
And then we scraped a million a few times. And then this video was, and then this video,
which like should have slapped, but nobody's building computers right now. So it didn't do that well.
And then a long burn build guide thing.
And then this video- So that build guide, that build guide I'm legitimately not worried about.
Yeah, long burn, like I said. So let me give you the glass half full side of this.
Okay. The fire truck videos were committed a long time ago.
We knew they weren't going to be performers. We were fulfilling videos we committed to do.
Okay. We knew. The, here, if you go, if you go down a little bit.
Whoa, down. What the ones that are performing well have in common
is that they're back to basics. They're back to what made LTT, LTT.
Things like the TikTok hacks. That was remote one is a really cool video.
I don't know if you've watched that. No, I watched the whole thing. I really like that. That's going to be a slow burn.
It's going to do great. It's, it's not a product anybody's heard of. Like nobody knows what that is.
I'm not expecting that to get a ton of views right on day one. Yeah. If you go down a little bit farther.
Well, now we're getting to things that were very strong.
Oh, I thought you started here. I, I, yeah, I started right here and I already pointed out.
Yeah, you can, you can get, you can go back up.
The stuff that's doing here, we'll go back here.
So the stuff that's doing well still, like the, the Korean mall walk, for instance,
is just like back to basic stuff and we're having
a lot of conversations internally and we have been for a long time,
but what we're finally doing is taking solid action on it
to make our production process more agile, more spur of the moment.
We're very scheduled. We've gotten very big and we've got a lot of people who
you know, are racies, right? You know, who needs to be, who needs to be informed
and who needs to take action and all of that stuff. Who's responsible?
And that's all, you know, you know, it's all important stuff
so that, you know, people's lives aren't just like running around, putting out fires all day, but it's made us less agile.
And so that's, that's where that video that I wrote yesterday came from.
It was just like, Hey, what does this workflow look like?
Another thing that I've talked to the writing team about
is I'm going to go back to writing more. We did one video a little while ago where the lab just did the,
like the testing in the one pager and I just earphones in wrote it
instead of having someone else write it and then I go into a script review.
And that was for, shoot, what was that for? It was for, was it a CPU launch?
Yeah, it was the 9850 X3D, right?
I think so. Sounds right. Anyway, so the plan is to start doing two of those a week, like now,
where it's just like back to, I don't know how to describe it
other than just like back to what made LTT fun and, and, and, and feel like hands-on.
We've talked about this quite a few times on Wayne show, but yeah, LTT's
doesn't feel like it has its, its soul fully intact at the moment.
Like there was, there was for a long time it was like where you went to be
kind of up to date with what was going on in like the techie world.
And I don't mean TechLinked because that's news. Yeah.
I mean like kind of more than that.
And it, it, yeah, I don't know. Wasn't fully fulfilling that for a while.
And you know what? I think I allowed myself to stop having fun.
Yeah. Tech got really depressing and boring. And you know what?
Good News WAN Show is another like concrete action that we're taking to just get back to
just having fun doing this. Yeah. Get back to having fun.
Yeah. There is, yeah, there's, there's some stuff.
It's, it's just, I don't have any ownership in LTT.
I don't have any visibility in the finances and all that kind of stuff.
But there have been actions taken because of low company performance.
So it's, it's a little tough, I guess.
But I guess there's separation and jet expenses and that.
Yeah. Okay. All right. Yep. I mean, I made it really clear in how does LMG spend money that we expected to get back to
closer to 20% and that's with that separated out.
Right. So that's with that peel. That's with it completely out. Yeah. And so realistically right now, temporarily, what would have been, what would have been my take?
I'm just like, well, I'm going to use it on this gamer jet.
We're going to milk it for some content. We're going to use it to make travel way more comfortable for me and the team that is going
to do this stuff. And hopefully we're going to unlock some pretty cool content.
Because we can go in and out of non-major hubs now.
Yeah. And we can do it at times that are not necessarily normal times.
So, you know, a perfect example of something that I'd love to be able to do more is,
do you remember that video I did going down and touring Kenton's tech house?
Yes. I'd love to be able to do more stuff like that. So that's the kind of thing that, you know, if you were sending a, like a content suggestion,
as long as we can find a sponsor to make it make sense, because I can tell you right now,
just a normal, like ad insertion, like we would typically do in our video is not,
is not going to cover it. Like we'd have to be able to, we'd have to be able to make the economics if it makes sense.
But we'd love to be able to do more of like this kind of, this kind of stuff.
Yeah, yeah. That was cool.
But we can't do stuff like that if it means day of travel, day of shooting.
Oh no, we missed the cutoff for the last flight back.
Day of travel again. I can't be out of office for three days to make one video.
It just doesn't work. Right.
You've, you've described this like to me at least when we were discussing it pretty early on,
you called it a life phase.
Yeah. Which I thought was interesting wording. I, it's like, it's trying to make it fun again.
I want to, I want to try to, I want to try to make it fun again. I want to try to, you know, we're always trying to do something different that no one else can do.
I don't think anyone else in the tech YouTuber space would have the connections with my uncle
in order to be able to do something like this. Sure.
Literally. And so, you know, we always want to, we always want to level it up a bit.
We always want to do something, do something different.
If it ultimately doesn't work, what I said in the video is, is true.
I've had, I've had a lot of people question this, the zero dollar math.
We will be able to get out of this thing for very near what we spent on it.
I'm very confident in that. Do you want to talk about one of the things that is reducing expenses
because of the, that contract thing? I want to speak somewhat vaguely, but hopefully I can get it across to you.
A maintenance portion of it that is like not being paid intentionally?
Uh, no, that's probably too far in the bolts.
Sure. I mean, it's not, it's not a secret. Basically, engines can be on service plans that effectively are their insurance,
but insurance where you know the thing will die and you know when it will die.
So basically it's just a payment plan. So you go on a payment plan for your engine
and then when it reaches the end of its service life, you've effectively paid for the work of having it refurbished.
And that's what that plane just went through. So because they're sitting at like zero hours,
effectively the scrappy, the scrappy way to do it
is to not enroll it on one of those programs because those will cost hundreds of dollars per flight hour per engine
in order to, to pay for.
But if this was something where you were just going to run it into the ground anyway,
then you can roll the dice. And if one of them happens to fail, which it probably won't,
because it's in great near new condition,
then you're stuck with a big bill. So that's the other thing is it's insurance,
because if it dies early, then they also cover it there.
So right now we are not enrolled in an engine service plan.
Yeah. It's not a safety issue.
If you flip it, then they can decide to do that.
Yeah. Or we could buy in, if we're informed at the time when it comes to flip it,
that it's better to have it enrolled. Are you, are you worried about the cost of jet fuel spiking?
Not just in regards to your own usage, but in regards to your ability to flip it?
Honestly, no. I suspect that in the, in the time scale that we're going to be doing content
and, and using this thing. The straight's going to open again.
I suspect the straight will be open. Yeah. Got it. And, and the oil will flow, so to speak.
Yeah. The spice. A little flowing spice.
Did you see any, did you see any more sort of interesting questions?
I've, I've been really busy answering. I'm, I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to be as thorough as I can right now.
So I've been pretty focused on, you know, answering your questions.
Toffridge is saying, can you talk about the timeline for flipping?
Sure. Yeah. So just with, you know, the age of everyone involved,
the idea that I had in the back of my brain was one to three years.
And probably closer to the, the middle of that.
And you've had it for, I don't know, half a year now?
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And so depreciation curve is this birds from 1990.
Yeah. Right. So something of this class, like this kind of range, this kind of passenger capacity
that's brand new today would be, oh man, like 35 to 45 mil or so.
We are not there anymore. We're down here.
And what's nice about the depreciation curve is it's, it's very much,
it's kind of like a car in that a lot of the depreciation happens really fast.
And then over time, if you buy a 1990 Honda Civic today and you sell it in two years,
it will probably be worth as a still functioning vehicle that the doors still roll up and down,
very similar to what you paid for it, because it's already very old.
Unlike a car, this has decades of maintenance records.
And we know that it was taken care of extremely well.
So we, we, we have solid assurance and it just had a new engine put in, you know?
So we have solid assurance that it was in, it was at the, at the high end of the bottom
of that depreciation curve, meaning it has some room to go down a little bit more before
we will actually lose, lose. There's also some questions about can you actually make it a, I'm paraphrasing a little
bit and leading you a little bit because I know the answer, but can you actually make
it like a tech jet? How is it going to become a gamer plane?
So there's going to be limits in terms of what we can do, like really hard limits.
That was something that very early in the exploration stage of, hey, is this, is this feasible?
Like, is this, is this something that we could just crazy like do for a bit and then,
and then not do anymore, but, but make some cool videos.
And like we found out that you pretty much can't, you can't screw anything into it.
No bolts, no screws, adhesives though.
So if we were to do like a, like a sky high land party or something like that,
where we would get into the tech details, you know, we always, I always tell the team
that we need to have learning outcomes. We need to have tech tips, no matter what the video is, no matter what it's about.
So what we'd be getting into there is realistically how light and how low power
can we make our systems? Because we're going to be, it's an older bird, 1990, doesn't have like a super robust
auxiliary power system to run, you know, your high spec, you know, desktop gaming PC in the cabin.
So how light can we get everything?
How low power can we get everything? Primarily low power, yeah.
We can't bring a giant jackery with us because even though this was something that like blew
my mind, I can totally take a sword onto the plane with me because there's no security.
I can't just take any old like giant battery bank that I want.
You're still subject to like FAA guidelines as far as that goes.
That kind of makes sense, I think. Totally makes sense. So if we're bound by just like compliant battery banks and the one outlet we have from the galley,
how big of a land can we have? Like I could see that being kind of an interesting video, but you know, realistically,
that's not like the first thing I'm going to want to do. I think Elijah, I'm just going to be straight up with you guys.
He just wanted to write it. And I was like, okay, if you can contrive a video that gives you an excuse to write it,
then you can come on the next trip we're taking.
And he pitched one the next day and it was pretty much building the high, building it,
building a PC while high. So I'm going to say, I feel like you would just go really solid battery life laptops
if you weren't trying to make a fun video. That'd be the smart way.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, totally. But Elijah, and we're not going to just fly for that because that would be crazy.
But basically the extra cost is just going to be Elijah's per diem and like hotel.
And then he's going to ride along to something that we were already doing.
Sure. With that had a sponsor and stuff. So, so that'll be one.
But the one that I'm actually most excited to do and Dan, I would like you to join me for this.
It's going to be a lot of fun. It has an in-flight entertainment system.
I didn't really touch on it in the video with Elijah.
It is the worst piece of dog that I have ever seen in my life.
It is the worst implementation, execution.
You can look at the animals. It's so bad.
Sort of. It's so. Yeah, kind of. It's so bad.
And I just, Dan, I'd like you to experience it with me.
And then I'd like to figure out if there's a way for us to,
without putting in any screws, fix it.
You couldn't use adhesive to put a screen in it. We could duct tape an iPad to the screen.
I think we could figure something out. I feel like with Dan's innovation and.
That sounds like an intro. Pankrats wants in too, apparently. Nice.
So, so. Hell yeah, Pankrats and Dan. Yeah, with Pankrats and Dan, I feel like we could do something with it.
I feel like your intro is that you duct tape an iPad to the, to the screen.
That's not bad. And this is Dan's idea. And then. No, that was my solution.
And that sounds like a much better thing that I came up with. And then you go, and then you go like,
okay, well, this is my solution. What do you guys want to do?
That sounds fun. Yeah. So I'm very excited for that video.
There was a question. I hope I didn't lose it.
Let me go find it. Can you say anything about why the industry is so secretive about sale price?
No. I had a few people post that it's BS that there could be any kind of NDA on the sale price.
News to me from, but I'm just going, I'm just going based on what our lawyer,
because there's no way that you buy something like this without a lawyer involved.
Our lawyer told my uncle, told me is that this agreement or no,
my lawyer told my uncle told Yvonne told me. So something could have gotten missed.
But my understanding is that whether it's actually in black and white or the agreement,
or whether it's just gentlemanly conduct,
it is not something that is disclosed who you bought it from.
Even though you can like look up who, who owned it. You can literally look it up,
but you don't talk about who owned it or what you paid for it.
And you see this a lot, like if you were to, if you were to go on here and go Falcon 900B,
and by the way, like how wild is it?
How wild is it that like for how low volume this world is,
that it's like this organized and there's like,
it's like this easy to just browse airplanes. Yeah.
Anyway. I looked it up. There's a lot of this. I try to ignore the, yeah.
Call for price, call for price, call for price. And this is on older planes that, you know,
realistically have fewer people that are trying to protect,
you know, the actual worth of,
and most people are still not disclosing a sale price, which I've never understood.
Commercial real estate is like that too. Call for price. Why don't you just tell me the price?
Then I know if I have to call you. Why don't we just not waste anybody's time?
Seems pretty smart to me. Sir, what are you going to say?
I Googled it, tried to ignore the AI summary, but the AI summary did say that sales of private jets
and business aircraft very often involve non-disclosure agreements. And then I found this other one,
which is some attorney website that says that prior
to entering into discussions surrounding the sale and purchase of an aircraft,
the party should sign a non-disclosure agreement by which they agree to keep all shared information confidential.
Does that include the price? I don't know, but I don't feel like breaking an NDA today.
Yeah, sure. So it's really that simple.
Don't know. I think that's it for questions that I've seen in chat.
Okay, cool. Yeah, it was one of those videos that I was like
sitting there ready to push publish and I was like, But overall, the reaction has actually been not that bad,
surprisingly. Like there's...
Sorry, someone mentioned that the ISS might have passed
the midpoint and my cares about the plane vanished.
So I'm not there yet. Okay, whoops.
No one cares about ground craft. Yeah, yeah.
Why don't you want a spaceship? Inside the atmosphere. Freaking loser.
In the atmosphere, like some kind of chode. Yo, it did.
Just a bit, but it did. That is so cool.
How fast are we moving? I mean, you can see it on the little slower.
On the moon over there, just watching the numbers tick down. That's crazy.
Yeah. Just watching them tick down like seconds.
It's weird. It's so fast. You forget how fast everything's moving.
It's crazy. Wow.
At the bottom, you can play the expected trajectory. Is it this?
Nope. At the bottom, you can play the expected trajectory.
Oh, there we go. Play.
So cool, like the gravity stuff. And then they did the math wrong and they're just into deep space.
Hopefully, hopefully that's actually funny.
NASA tracker says it's not. Oh, okay. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
They can go clean the James Webb.
Unity. Hello.
No. So, okay. Distance from Earth, distance to moon.
Oh, no. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Is this updating in real time though? Oh, oh, yeah.
Looks like it. Looks like it. Okay. All right. Interesting.
Well, let's see how far it can get while we do after dark.
Time for some checkout messages. Sure thing. It's weird that they disagree.
Hey, LLD. I'm loving HexOS so far.
What is a good free or lifetime license PC backup program you would recommend?
I mean, isn't it included in Windows these days?
Also- One drive? Here's a crazy, here's a-
No, no, no, no, no. Like the Windows backup and recovery thing.
Here, oh my God. Oh, like that type of PC backup. Paintgrass just said Windows backup has become horrible.
I'm not surprised. It's like everything else on Windows. Okay.
Here's my question. Hear me out. Hear me out. Why?
You have HexOS. You have a NAS. Just don't store anything on your computer at all.
Either with a separate drive or with a partition. You put all your games there.
And then like, dude, I don't know, man.
Maybe this is just me, but setting up a new Windows for me takes like
half an hour, maybe. Where like setting up a new phone sucks.
Like that is so- That takes days. Tidious, yeah. But setting up a Windows computer these days, I feel like is really fast.
Apparently you can still use Windows 7 backup. That's nuts.
Isn't that like a separate program? I've never done it. I've always just fresh installed and then copied files on Windows 7 backup.
Let's go. Windows 7 backup. I'm so happy that it searched it.
Shut up. I'm so happy that it searched it, dude. Look at this.
How about, okay, this is the most BS, BS.
Confirm and set later. How about no?
Where is my no button? It's like seriously, this has like date rape vibes.
You also can't alter for it. Confirm or do it later.
No, how about no, no, no, no.
Also forcing this huge pop-up is really annoying. It could be like a little banner at the bottom or something.
Immediately annoying the heck out of people the second they open your browser thing is
not the way to get people to use it. How do I, how do I download it?
Oh, okay. Backup and restore Windows 7.
I don't, I don't see this anymore. I don't see this.
I don't see this tech tip anymore. This is from December 2024 though.
It's not that long ago. All right. Well, that might be a thing, but it's not something that I can find immediately.
So, man, a good, a good backup program.
I always really liked, shoot, what's that imaging program that I always used to use to,
Paragon, is Paragon still good? Admittedly, I have not, I have not used it in a long time.
That's a throwback. Yeah, Paragon used to be pretty based.
They used to have pretty good like data recovery stuff too, didn't they?
Oh, I use their data recovery stuff. Yeah. Their machine comparison.
The data stuff, stuff's great. I, I think I use that for trying to find my Bitcoin wallet.
Just going through like, so many old partitions.
It was super useful, but it's pretty old. Clearly, and a little bit.
Oh no, they actually do give me pricing. And perpetual. Perpetual license.
Okay. Based, based, based. Is Paragon still good?
If someone tells me, yes, Paragon is still good, then I'm ready to recommend it because
I've been really happy with it in the times that I have used it.
They didn't find my Bitcoin wallet, but they sure gave me hope.
Nice. That might be worse.
Never mind.
Hey, at least, at least I might buy a Linus coin.
Maybe, I'm going to miss that too. Nobody seems to hate Paragon.
So, that's a huge defense in current year.
That is a pretty huge defense in current year. That's a good point. Okay. I'm, I'm going to say that, hey, hey, look, they have a community addition for free.
You can at least try it.
Like the mass effect. All right, cool.
Okay. Let's see what we have more. Hey, L, L and D.
I'm really happy with the blank T quality.
Order 10 of them last time. Oh, okay. Wow, cool.
I hope to get a good coin to buy some more. Question for Linus, have you continued vibe coding?
How did it go? I haven't. I mean, I don't want to spoil the conclusion for the vibe coding challenge, which is still
progressing. In fact, you guys filmed some stuff this week. I was told that you had continued.
Oh, I did continue it. Okay. And I tried to continue it,
but I ran into some walls that I'm sure we're going to talk about as part of the video.
Okay. That's interesting because I was, okay. I mean, we can talk about that part of the video, but I heard that you had continued it
and we're still continuing it. And I was very stunned that you had not hit the walls.
Oh, the walls have been hit. Okay. Hard. That makes a lot more sense.
The walls are like halfway between my nose and the back of my head.
Yeah. How flat my face is against the wall. That makes way more sense.
I mean, I'm almost 40. I hit the wall a few years ago.
You know what I'm saying? There's a good salt and pepper era for men.
Yeah.
Maybe whatever you tell yourself. Yeah.
I'm not worried about it. I feel like for the Silver Fox, you have to be tall.
I feel like shorter guys can be good looking when they're young,
but I feel like to pull off the Silver Fox, you like actually have to be tall.
You're mostly a man on camera. People can't tell you where unless you're standing next to other people.
I think you do have to be tall. You're right. You just got to be more aggressive.
You get some pumps. More aggressive? About, okay.
You know, you got to be more aggressive about standing on Apple boxes.
Oh, Apple boxes. I don't think those beneath you ever talk about Apple boxes.
Apple boxes, jeans, boots with this. Dead cat with the fur.
Can we even still call them that? Who knows? Yeah, I think so. I think you could still call it a dead cat.
What do they call if it's not called that? I genuinely don't know. Windsock.
Microphone fluff. Windsock. Microphone fluff with the fur.
It doesn't have the same ring to it. Really doesn't. All the cameras are pointing at her.
Hey there, Dalilu.
As an aspiring designer of repairable products, how does one sell the slack-jawed on them
without having them come across as gimmicky, aimed at die-hards or otherwise not quote-unquote normal?
Most consumers will not actually buy something for that reason.
So you just have to make it really good. And then your conviction of things should be repairable
is just going to have to exist and make it a repairable object.
You will have some very loud people on your side
if you make it repairable, which is awesome, but that is basically just marketing.
And their message is going to have to effectively be, this is a really good thing to buy,
and also it's repairable, to actually get through to the other people who will actually buy it.
And here's a hard truth. You can swallow it, take it with water.
It is gimmicky. It is aimed at die-hards.
It is. Repairable stuff is gimmicky? No, literally that's what a gimmick is.
It's like for most people who don't care,
I'm agreeing with you, where for most people it is gimmicky,
where they ultimately are not going to repair it and it's not important to them.
It just needs to be a good one. I would argue that that I don't agree.
Well, okay, I'm going to look it up. Does gimmick mean not meaningful?
A trick or device intended to attract attention,
publicity or business, and I'm seeing that it often has negative connotations,
like it's not actually legit, or it's not actually a benefit.
Then that's not fair. But it's definitely intended to attract attention, publicity or business.
And so that was what I didn't, I, yeah, okay, I yield.
Because even if I would argue that I think a lot of people might buy a repairable device
that would never repair it under any circumstance, I think that is a fair statement.
But in my opinion, that's still completely awesome
because the second that person doesn't have that device anymore,
it's still repairable by someone else. I'm not saying it's not awesome.
What I was, I tried and failed to agree with you,
that for most of the buyers, this will be perceived as just a gimmick.
Because they don't actually care. And then it just needs to be a good device.
I just, I'm just fighting on the word gimmick. But yeah, I think most people
aren't actually going to value that significantly.
But if it's just a good device or can do cool things, like most people that I know of
that have been interested in frameworks,
the repairability side of the framework is not the major purchasing factor.
Can you bring it back to money somehow? Like can you, can you, can you
Cost of long-term cost of ownership being lower? TCO, like can you, can you sell it based on that maybe?
I don't know what your device is. Which is totally legit. Yeah, like, but that's how you get a business's attention
is like, what's my total cost of ownership, right? You could also argue, like if this is something
that would be used in like a work scenario, for example,
if it's repairable, that might mean less downtime.
Because if another one breaks, and the only way to get the thing working is to fully replace it, you might not have one on hand.
But if you have a few little parts on hand, or somebody who's handy available there,
who might be able to make something to, to replace it, and it's highly repairable, and thus more able to be done,
then that could be a huge selling point for certain businesses or people out in the field
that might not be able to get back to a workshop very easily,
but they might be able to swap a part. And if you're, if you have a, you know,
high repairability score or whatever, that might be a lot more viable when you're out.
Think of like John Deere. You really need to be able to repair that thing yourself.
You really should be able to. A freaking John Deere, dude.
Big jerks. But yeah, I think, I think,
sell the utility of it being repairable instead of just saying that it's repairable.
Because to a lot of people, I think that doesn't have a lot of value. It's, it's interesting.
It's like the same. There's a bunch of companies have had this realization, like shipping with like environmentally friendly packaging.
Doesn't move the needle on sales. But you, you know, people that care about that,
which is care about that enough to make purchasing decisions
is actually a very, very small amount of people. But those people might be pretty loud about it,
which might get your name out there more. They might advocate for your brand.
Yeah. But then it's still, their application of your brand still needs to include
that your thing is good or else the other people aren't going to buy it.
So you need both. You can't just go with one. See what just happened?
My computer just restarted. It was broadcast message system will restart.
What the heck? Sorry. On the subject of packaging, packaging is one that like drives me crazy
because it doesn't actually cost that much more to,
in many cases we've found, use packaging that is recyclable or biodegradable.
It seems like a lot of times it's an active choice
and it's the unnecessariness that offends me,
like how easily they could just not.
And I get that most consumers won't care, but like it's really easy, except when it isn't.
You know why we have to have plastic bags on the backpacks?
Container leaking. Not just leaking, but the high humidity and the salt water
and the ocean and just like generally,
it like scuffing anything that isn't sealed. Because as far as my understanding goes,
a lot of packaging stuff is because of
like just the chaotic environments, the temperature fluctuations even of containers on ships.
Because they'll go through some like pretty intense
hot and cold cycles even. And yeah.
Yes, some of the changes on packaging in the US warehouse
were miscommunications.
Tordirk, to say the least.
There were some really weird things going on, but we're working it out with our logistics partner there.
It should be pretty much resolved at this point.
Did my OS just freaking spontaneously combust?
Oh, no, there it is. It's coming back. Did you see what happened?
No. Which machine is this?
It freaking did.
Hold on. Our OSED is broken.
Something. Okay, no. Kubuntu is booting now.
What the heck? Cursed.
It's never done that before. In the entire like month plus of the Linux challenge now,
it hasn't done that. That's cursed. If you want to fix it, just put it on this side of the table.
No, no, keep it away from Luke. Why?
Because the cars, it'll get too fresh and minty. No, I'm immune.
I'm fine. I don't think I've ever seen this blue glowing Kubuntu though.
Or maybe it just has never been up long enough in order to glow blue like this before moving past.
Oh yeah. Oh, there was a thing in the corner there. I missed it. I saw it for a sec too.
There's a cursor thing now too. There sure is.
There's a mouse cursor. I see a mouse cursor. Different kind of cursor.
What's going on, man?
It's funky. I don't get it, man.
Razer sitting here as the sponsor, the way I'm sure being like,
our laptop working perfectly. A couple of weeks ago,
the fan might have been cranked because of Windows updates. Yeah, that's on Microsoft though.
It took so long to pull that out. This isn't a Soos or whatever that laptop is.
Still a cursor. Oh, the cursor just went away.
Is that good or bad? Move it.
Nope. Okay. It's just black now. Yeah. I wonder if my battery,
you know what, maybe my battery just died. I didn't think it would because it was fully charged,
but we have been sitting here for, oh my god, four hours.
Okay, where's a plug here? Oh, Dan, did you put this plug in here just for me?
Yes. Yes. When you heard me talk about never having a plug here,
it's so nice, Dan. I mean, there was one the whole time.
You are the best Daniel Besser who has ever produced the Wancho.
Thank you.
Shall we continue? We shall. Okay. I think my battery might have just died.
Sure. I hope. We'll figure it out. Linus Curse.
G'day, LLD. Can I get an understanding on if it is Linus,
his stylus slash wardrobe or head of marketing's fault
that he keeps teasing me with the black hoodie with the lime green
highlights that is no longer sold?
Okay, this was what I actually needed my laptop for because I pulled up a shower thoughts email that I sent to Bridget
who is our head of fashion.
We're kind of expressing, I think,
some of what I think you're trying to get across. Basically, what I said is subject was another data point to consider
for how we handle design transitions. Again, I want to preface this with that.
I understand what you guys are doing with the seasonal styles. I still believe in this direction as we transition from merch to a fashion brand,
but I don't know how to deal with the unavoidable truth that for the styles
that have a very distinctive look and end up on camera a lot,
we will not even see their peak demand until well after launch
once they've had a bunch of exposure. Framework hoodie and LAN, which is the green and black one you're talking about,
are the two I've raised this about recently and I understand the pushback
from someone on one of them about how they want to do something new
rather than just reprint an old thing. But I do worry that we may be doing things the fashion way rather than
being open to the way that our business for all of its faults
has kind of worked up till now. I'm not asking for change, just flagging this audience feedback.
I hate telling people too bad you can't buy it when it was only available for a month or two.
Also, though, we can't have a repeat of the overstock situation on WAN V2 colon slash face.
So some of the ideas that the team has had is we could maybe have some Linus's favorites
that we bring back sometimes. Because the challenge, right, is the minimum, not the minimum even,
but the order quantity, we try to get it right. And a lot of the time at our scale, it's the minimum.
It's the minimum order quantity where it even becomes cost-effective
because you've got to get fabric, you've got to dye fabric, you've got to cut fabric, you've got to produce this stuff.
And it all happens at a scale that is frankly mind-boggling.
It's a miracle that we're able to make garments at all, to be honest with you.
And then once we sell through all of it, typically the sales are really high
and then they kind of peter out, right?
Reordering at that time, a lot of the time seems crazy
because we can't just order 10. I can't order 10 of these.
I have to order something like this probably anywhere from like 2,000 to 3,000 of these.
So unless the sales at the end of the curve justify
what we committed to back when we could count on the beginning of the curve,
we're f***ed, it just doesn't, the math doesn't math.
And so, but the flip side of that is like, okay, but what about if we,
like I said in my email, never even saw that demand recover
because it wasn't even appearing on camera yet
by the time we cleared it out effectively?
I don't know, it's a tough nut to crack.
So, so bringing back some of Linus' favorites once in a while is one idea.
As part of the new LTT Store website, we're going to have a product archive
and I have talked to the team about maybe having a voting system
so that we bring back like the top upvoted one sometimes or something like that.
I think that could be really cool. But it's just, we make so many products because we want to,
we always want to look forward, right? We always want to move forward. So we make so many products that it's not possible for us to just
always perpetually have them always in stock. It just doesn't like work that way in fashion.
And that's something that they've really had to kind of beat into my head because I bring more of an electronic sensibility,
which operates on like a more of a yearly cycle, whereas fashion is fast, man, is quarterly, seasons, right?
They don't make the rules. And so it's just one of those things that we're learning as we grow
and as we change as a company. So in terms of who you can blame, you can blame me.
I like that hoodie. And so in the morning, when I look at my hoodies, I often put it on.
Should you come into work wearing whatever you want
and then there be a wardrobe for you for the day picked out by
there's supposed to be a merch inclusion form. Do you not get to dress yourself anymore?
You tiny boy. I like dressing myself. Nope.
I mean, I already only wear merch. I'm literally wearing the hot dog.
We're also not selling. Do we sell the hot dog? Maybe we do. I don't think the hot dog's still for sale.
Okay. It might be. It might be. I've got cargo pants. I don't know if we carry this color of cargo pants anymore.
I'm wearing the underwear though. Am I wearing prototype socks?
I am. I am. I'm not heck or the socks coming.
Sorry. You told me soon, soon. I know, but it's soon.
I don't know. I've got to get the webcam ready. It's late. I don't want to bug Dave right now.
Yeah, I know. Don't bug Dave. I'm not going to bug Dave. I just call him. No, he just messaged.
He just messaged. He's around. Okay. Because I need new socks.
Oh, Linus coin is marked as sold out and the back order flag has been removed.
Like 20,000 coins. Nice. Yeah, that'll burn through a lot of that zinc.
I kind of, yeah, I need new socks.
Okay, I'm asking. I bought a pair of the darn tough to see what all the hype was about.
Are you sold? Are you sold on Reno will blend socks? Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Now I want socks.
And no, no, no disrespect to darn tough at any point.
They, uh, they make a great product. I don't. Now I will own two pairs of great socks.
Yep. It's going to be great. More cake or whatever the saying is.
Yeah. Have your cake and your other cake. Is that what you're getting?
I think it's, it's like artists think that, you know,
that other person makes better cake than me and the consumers are just like, hell, yeah, two cakes.
Yeah. We've got two brands of great socks now instead of just one.
You need a, we need to find that looks like grub, isn't it?
Yes. That's not good. Why is that not good?
Because it doesn't normally come up when I boot my computer. Why, why did you boot into grub?
Oh, no. You guys, you guys saw it.
You saw it live on WAN Show. This man's cursed.
Mike, it's freaking Kubuntu. Can you, can you boot into Kubuntu off grub?
Oh, it went away. You didn't do a selection for too long, I think.
That is probably good. I think it's trying.
What are the odds? You guys, freaking saw it.
Okay. I think your computer just ran out of power. That's, that's, maybe that's it.
That, I'm going to check. I'm going to check. That does break laptops.
Is that 10% now? Do you think it would have charged 10% in the, yeah, maybe, maybe.
Okay. Okay. Maybe my battery just died. You know what?
That's going to be the Canon explanation for it.
My battery died. Okay. No big deal. I mean, that's a pretty scary way for the computer to behave when your battery dies.
Windows does handle that better. Um, yep, but, but no harm, no foul.
All right. What's up? Okay. On in Chidification Plus, YouTube's moat.
Any insight on how Billy Billy's economy works? So much better than YouTube.
Shout out to LTT's Billy Billy team. Tech puns have transcended.
So much better than YouTube. Language and cultural barrier.
Billy Billy has a lot of. Just reading it. Don't look at me like that. Cool social engagement for the users.
Which is pretty neat. Okay. Wait, what, sorry.
What was the question? I thought it was based around monetization. Yeah. How does their monetization model work?
Economy. Yeah. They asked. Um, I, I, as far as I'm not talking about platform features.
As far as I can tell, Billy Billy is a flip in huge video platform and has achieved scale.
Is pretty much the only explanation that I can give for it.
I thought he meant like creator economy stuff.
I don't think he meant, yeah, Billy Billy is enormous.
There's no, no doubt about that. Yeah.
Yeah. I wonder how our Billy Billy channel is doing. I haven't actually looked at it recently.
We're well over a million now. Subscribers, that is, that is one of my coolest play buttons.
I think it's my second favorite. Yeah. My gold Billy Billy play button.
I can never read views on here. Is that 40,000 or 4,000 views?
I don't know. Four. Is that 4,000?
He has no idea. Is this four?
No, it's not four. Eight. This is, this is why I said he has no idea.
Four. Four people, four people currently watching.
So he's right. I should have even, I should have even known better this.
I know this, I know this is person. That's like the one Chinese character.
He doesn't even know that I speak fluent Cantonese.
Andy taught me. I don't think this is Cantonese.
What the heck is that? I'm not clicking that. I can't try to counter Dan anymore.
Maybe it is Cantonese. I don't know. I said speak, not read.
No, I don't. Where's the view counter?
I have no idea. I'm over it.
Oh, okay. Sorry, moving on. I really like their banner.
The Billy, Billy banners awesome. Oh, what? Just the banner at the top.
Yeah, it's cute. It's nice. Remember when YouTube had a personality?
Oh, Mr. Beast. Oh God, he's so unsettling.
That thumbnail is very unsettling. Is that?
Oh, this is on Billy, Billy. Yeah.
I think I can taste his teeth from here. Yeah.
Hey, it's Steve. It's Steve, but not Steve.
Steve, 1989, but it's not Steve. Nice. Solid.
All right. Gray from Oz. Do you run separate VLANs on your home network?
I have a VLAN for my IoT devices, but have the issue of changing from my normal to IoT Wi-Fi
to use my Sonos. Also, Prismatic stubby when?
I don't know if we're going to do a Prismatic stubby. If we were going to do anything, it'd probably be a transparent.
That still sells quite well. As for why I don't bother at home, you answered it.
Everything in my home needs to talk to everything in my home,
and I can't think of any reason to not. The only exception is that I do have a guest Wi-Fi.
And from my understanding, when I click the guest Wi-Fi button,
it's doing VLAN magic in the background, but I never actually configured VLANs for it.
What's up, boys? What are your plans for the summer?
What are you guys looking forward to the most?
Honestly? I'm going to play a lot of badminton probably.
Yeah. Same thing we do every night, Pinky.
I think Emma and I are going to have to breathe a little bit
after having kind of figured the house out. Now that there's no mold.
Yeah. Yeah. Better breathe now. Yeah.
Better, better breathe now. Yeah. And then kind of figure it out. I feel like I owe her something.
So we'll probably have to go somewhere or something.
I don't know. We'll figure it out.
I don't see a full bunch. I was like, chicken?
Well, maybe a little more than chicken. Maybe something less transactional.
Make the chicken together.
You guys are going to make a chicken?
I mean, they're going to dry. They're going to get it one day.
I'm going to avoid continuing to comment.
Build a coop. If I had land, I feel like I would actually have chickens.
But it's so weird. Just build a coop in the park. Yeah.
Anyways. What is it with you and birds now?
I don't remember you ever being a bird guy. No, this is actually completely unrelated. But just for eggs.
Yeah. Okay. It's a coincidence. The only two animals you seem to have any interest in owning are birds.
Total coincidence. Genuine coincidence. Okay. And that's not true. I want a dog.
Okay, I'll allow it. I want a dog way more than I want birds. I just...
I have reservations about having a dog in an apartment.
I'm not judging other people. Makes sense. But especially for the size of dog that I would want.
And the amount that currently in my life with how busy I am,
I would be able to take them out and do walks and stuff. I have reservations about having a dog in an apartment.
Even for cats who seem to spend a lot of their time just lying around.
I was surprised by the change in their demeanor that we noticed moving into a bigger house.
It's just, it was one of those things that was not a factor in our decision whatsoever.
But they clearly liked it and were clearly more comfortable.
And every cat that we've... Every cat we had in our old place always tried to get out the door.
And every cat that we've had at a new place doesn't try to get out.
It's a sample size of only several, but make of it what you will.
Yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, if something changes or...
Oh, are you bringing it up? He's bringing it up. He's bringing it up. Let's see.
Let's see. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.
There. Oh, did we catch it?
It's coming. It's coming very, very soon. I had them reverse.
Okay. Okay. We're doing it. Very, very soon. It took me a second as well.
Very soon. Okay. We're at like five, four, three, two...
Oh! Let's go to... Very good.
Very good. Very well. Yeah.
Oh, that's pretty cool. Slip the surly bonds, etc.
Yeah. Man, that's sick.
All right, cool. History.
Ever, ever, ever so slightly slowing down, but she's moving.
Loving the good news, April. Linus, any suggestions for trying to do touch-ups on a wall that was painted prior to moving in
and have no clue what the actual brand or color was? Is this even possible?
Yeah, most paint shops will do paint matching, so color matching.
So what you'll do is you will actually, if you want the best possible match,
and this is going to feel awful in the moment that you're doing it,
but you'll cut a piece about this big.
You'll use like an X-Acto knife blade, so you'll extend it,
and then you'll kind of like, you'll bend the blade a little bit, and you'll slice a circle of paint off of the top of the dry wall.
Ideally, somewhere that has experienced similar fading to the spot you're trying to touch up,
because not all the paint on your wall is going to be equal things do fade under UV light,
and then you'll take that to the paint shop, and basically they'll be able to identify the sheen.
They have a whole pan-tone probably like system,
but they have a whole like spectrophotometry or whatever.
Some kind of color, might be a colorimeter, but they have some kind of color analysis thing,
and then they will get it to the point where they will get a paint dab.
They'll put it on there, and it should be pretty much indistinguishable from the thing.
Then you get some putty. You putty over the like gouge you took out of your wall,
and then you touch up both of them with your paint. You just put it on, and then you feather it to blend it a little bit
with a very light amount of paint on it. You're never going to get the finish the same with a brush as you will with a roller.
Yeah, I mean, I guess there's nothing would prevent you from putting it on with a roller, and then also kind of feathering the edges with that, but that's the way to do it.
Hey, dear love, what games have you been playing with your kids? My kids 16M and 10F, weird names, are still pretty obsessed with Minecraft,
and I introduced my daughter to Untitled Goose Game, which she loves.
My girls are still super into Minecraft, and my son is, he's a Rocket League fiend.
I try to play other games with them, and he just goes back to Rocket League just about every time,
and he's pretty good at it, so I think it gets comfortable. Is he ranked?
I mean, presumably, but I don't know. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm out of touch with my kids, apparently.
I don't know what his rank in Rocket League is. That means you're out of touch with your kids.
You know what, though? I want to, like, maybe even this weekend, I want to play Goof Shroop with them.
On ironically, goaded Super Nintendo game, and I played it when we were doing Sven's AMD
Ultimate Tech upgrade because he got a RetroTink 4K, and we hooked his SNES up to it.
Oh, he has, like, a B4, I think, LG TV OLED?
Oh, it looks so good. And it's really fun.
It's like we played through the first world together, and it's co-op, and it's just really fun.
Sweet. Yeah, so I'm thinking maybe I'll try and play that.
Luke, have you played Crimson Dessert?
No. I haven't either, but it seems like the kind of thing that I'll have to play.
Really? It's an RPG, right? Open World RPG? Yes, but a lot of people say that it doesn't get good for, like, many hours.
I don't know if it's a Linus game. That might make it not a Linus game.
It sounds like it might be a me game.
The way that people have talked about it remind me a lot of, like, the reasons why I liked old
Bethesda games.
You have no idea what to do, and everything is dangerous.
And everything is weird, and there's all these weird different systems, and you can use them in
kind of broken, weird ways, but it's a single-player game, so who cares?
And you just go mess around. But yeah, I haven't tried it yet. I have no idea if it works on Linux.
I want to try it soon. It's been very interesting to me.
Proton DB. Oh, boy. First hit for me is I just created this guide.
Oh, no. Gold.
Some extra flags you can see. Okay, well, it looks like it'll require at least a little tinkering.
I've never seen this. It's never come up for me, and it's not even on my ignore list.
I'm living in a rock.
Okay, no crims and desert. Greetings, gents.
Played tape to tape with the cousins recently, but I had trouble getting more than five controllers
connected. Have you had any luck with this? And if so, is it possible to learn this power?
Are you on the beta branch? I don't know if the old non-beta branch supports it, but the beta branch is available
in the public branch. You just have to click beta branch in the intro screen.
That could be part of it. Another part of it is that there's a flag in Steam.
For many controller support, also to go beyond eight, you can't use all X input because I
believe X input is capped at eight, so you'll need at least a couple of D input controllers.
But yes, it can be done. We have played 5v5 locally with tape to tape, and it is so fun.
It's super fun.
Linus, couple videos. You dress up in costumes like in Razor Phone or Star Forge video,
and it looks like you have tons of fun. Who comes up with these ideas, and are you always excited to do dress up?
I love costumes. I think they add so much production value.
I think they add fun on set.
We did that one recently where I dressed up in a wrestling onesie.
That was hilarious. I think everyone has a pretty good time with it.
Ploof is particularly an enthusiast when it comes to just playing dress up with Linus the Doll.
Linus the cable hero or whatever from the LTT cable launch.
That was Adam. I don't know. It's fun.
Man, I think when you get too old to enjoy dress up,
then it's time to just kind of ask yourself, hey, when did I get not fun?
I really liked the... You're too cool to wear a Halloween costume.
Ask yourself, are you really that cool? What the heck even was it? This was forever ago.
We filmed a thing. You and I dressed up in like old timey detective costumes or something?
Yeah, for that Cooler Master sponsored video. Sure, yeah.
Honestly, a lot of the old, really old sponsored video things we would do were really fun.
Like the origins of... Was it TechLinked or Techquickie or something?
We would dump these videos on that channel and it was like, yeah, I don't know.
Like sponsored, it was a repository for sponsored videos and we would just kind of dump them on
there and then we would also do short tech tip videos just to build up the numbers on that channel.
It was never actually intended to be that. It just kind of became that over time.
Yeah, and filming those was so much fun.
Jumping off the fence with your sword. Oh, I hurt myself doing that.
Wait, I jumped off the fence. I did a flip.
That's a fair one up. I didn't land it.
Only one of us was up. I was down.
Hi, LLD. I'm currently growing a year.
Growing my beard for a whole year as a bit to mess with my...
Oh my God. Noke asks, why not do this again? I mean, I'm down.
Yeah, I'm down too. I'm down. Do it. We have to find out who did this.
Do it, you cowards. Who crashed their car into the store.
Sorry. Yeah, I don't know. Whimsy is fun here.
Hi, LLD. I'm currently growing a year to growing my beard for a whole year
as a bit to mess with my wife. What is your dream bit and what's stopping you from doing it?
A one year long bit to mess with your wife might be a little excessive.
Sorry, but... Is it worth it?
Does this feel like it's going to pay off?
Have you ever heard of the happy wife, happy life thing?
I tricked you with this thing that you saw happening for a year
and it just got grosser and grosser.
How do you think bothered wife for a year?
What does that result in? Divorce speed run.
The bit is I come home and I'm completely clean shaven
after having a beard my whole life.
Yeah. Isn't that a bit? And like fairly quickly reversible.
Well, depends on how long the beard was. This one's reversible too.
He just has to decide to reverse it.
Man, I don't know if I have a dream bit, but there is a funny one that I thought of.
We just bought like a Jesus costume so that I can do a thing.
Basically, I just thought of the idea of turning water into segway.
And I was like, can we get a Jesus costume? And so resourceful for me.
Immediately. I haven't written it into a video yet.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You're going to be, you can be Jesus. Oh man.
That's, that's the whole thing. It was just one of those late night thoughts.
I was like, turn water into segway.
Those are the best. Teach a man to segway. He can feed himself and his jet.
Give a man a segway.
Oh my God. I don't think we should be allowed to be creative,
but that's excellent. Okay. Geez.
No, I can't think. Yeah, let me do a second.
Linus, last year you said you want to do a video reflecting on thinking of retiring.
Livestream. He can't. He's going to rise again.
I was thinking of buying a jet.
Do you still have thoughts to share about it now? Do you think of it differently compared to a year ago?
I've been thinking of selling my jet. Oh man.
I think what I'm more focused on right now is just trying to find the fun again,
just doing cool stuff, finding cool tech, finding cool news, finding exciting stuff to do,
and doing that, and assembling a crack team that is laser focused on doing that.
That's the short version of it.
I'm coming up on my 40th.
I told Luke this the other day. That's caused a lot of introspection lately.
I think if my midlife crisis can be
doing some wacky stuff, some high budget wacky stuff, and finding the fun,
and making it really enjoyable to work again, then I will consider that a success.
By the way, for people that don't know, I just think this is so cool.
NASA's YouTube channel is just sending a continuous live feed right now,
which is just sweet. And they'll switch back and forth between this and Mission Control.
I didn't even have to buy a color TV this time. Can you imagine how cool it's going to be for them after this multi-day journey on the way back?
Can you imagine sitting in there, having just seen the back of the moon,
you're one of four people who has seen the back of the moon with your real human eyes,
and just the energy in there?
Oh, yeah.
Fantastic. It's so cool. I love as well how I just directed everyone to go there, and then
dude spun around and pointed his butt right at the camera.
NASA Space Light has full live commentary thing.
Yeah, I suspect Space Flight Now is also doing stuff.
Let's see. Are they?
I have an answer for you, by the way. It's not as exciting as Space Flight, but it is regarding the socks.
Midsummer, late summer, before August.
That's not... Well, I thought it was sooner. Yeah, Space Flight Now does have a 24-7 stream.
Yeah, there's a lot of them. It's really cool. That's not what I was looking for before August.
Sorry. Okay.
Dear Li Lu and Da, what's the coolest branded PC or console product
you guys have ever had the privilege of owning? Mine are the Starfield controller, Xbox One Halo edition, and Warcraft MSI graphics card.
SteelSeries had that weird wow mouse to that count.
Did you own that? I mean, I unboxed one.
I can tell you one that I'm not a fan of.
A SUSE sent over a sample of this PX-13 ProArt laptop, which is a super cool laptop.
It has weird GoPro code branding.
Yeah, I don't get it. So it just has a GoPro logo, and then it has a GoPro button.
I'm on Linux right now, so I have no idea what the GoPro button even does.
But then it just, it has GoPro art, GoPro art, GoPro, be the hero of your story on the bottom.
GoPro seems like a fine brand, but it just seems very random.
Yeah, it's just weird. ViscousCree says it's got to be the gold Xbox controller.
That's not co-branded. That's just ridiculous.
Last one I got for you. What? I didn't even get an answer from Luke.
Oh, I've heard that. I don't know if I literally have any.
He would have had to buy some of the Pokemon branded computer.
No, it's not branded. It's not branded.
It's specifically not branded. It's got a trainer on it.
It's themed. Whoa.
Dude, you're taking off. You're going to go join Artemis.
That was crazy. Last one I got for you.
What home automation or smart home solution that you've implemented has been your favorite
and which would you consider most essential? I'm a space cadet, so the notification that I get
if I've left my garage door open is by far the most important smart home automation
that I have in my life.
I just forget. I can literally, I don't even know if I have full
object persistence at this point because I can be looking at my garage going,
I need to close that. And then I can look at the road
and I no longer remember my garage exists. So yeah, it helps a lot.
Yeah.
And that's all we got. Thank you so much for tuning in.
We'll see you again next week. Same bad time.
Different channel. That's right.
You got to go to the WAN Show channel now going forward.
You could come here, but it will be worse.
Yeah. Unless you're on full plane.
Or, or Twitch? Are we leaving Twitch alone?
We're going to leave them alone forever. You're being left alone.
Bye!