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It's a good Friday, quality Friday, you might even say good Friday.

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Thanks, Dan. All right, well, I think we all know what we have to talk about today.

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Have you seen the way that Microsoft Outlook is performing today?

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It's performing for the Artemis mission.

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I just plain can't believe it. I can't actually explain the overwhelming wave of happiness that I felt when that happened.

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I love that that scene from Space Forces can and now.

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Did that seriously go over everyone's head?

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No, I know an instrument.

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I didn't ding the thing.

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Nice.

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Hey, I want that's with interest.

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Nice.

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All right.

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Wait, what? How did this? How is it 440? What happened?

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Okay, well, let's let's go live then.

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Bloody hell, how are we late?

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I'm hanging out. I was here the whole time.

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You were to the washroom. Oh, that's true. I had to poop.

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Yeah, sometimes nature calls, man.

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You just gotta do what you gotta do.

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I tried to do the AI call screening thing, but nature was like, nope.

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Just poop.

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I'm just getting I'm just getting right side again.

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Oh, that's me. How the crap is that me? What just happened?

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So that must be you then. Yeah, this is me.

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Yeah, just right side again. Pretty sure. Hello. Hello. Yeah, just right side.

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I can live with it. Whatever.

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Oh, right.

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Oh, it's like way quieter, I think.

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Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. He's working on let him cook.

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He's not even back in his chair yet. See, how is he possibly supposed to fix it?

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He's not even back in the chair yet. Dan, get back in the chair faster.

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Luke's impatient. I did not complain ever.

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He's not even back in the chair yet. He's not even back in the chair yet.

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Dan, get back in the chair faster. Luke's impatient.

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I did not complain ever.

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How about that? Okay.

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I complained about a great many things.

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Talking, talking. I can definitely hear monitoring.

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I think it's from both sides. It's a little quiet, but I think it's from both sides.

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I might just have a lot of earwax this week or something. Bernardo Baruch cannot watch us live today.

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Oh, no. That blows, dude. I'm sorry.

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Okay, we will have fun and take care of you too, Bernardo.

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Can you hear both sides? No, I think so. Yeah, pretty sure.

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That was a bad idea. Oh.

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CatChitU says, oh, no plane stream.

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We had fire truck stream. We also had fire truck stream.

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We used it to cool a computer.

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Nice. God, he's really sending it this week.

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It's going to get worn out. You're going to break the bell.

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Tom Scott's back. Yeah, Tom Scott was never going anywhere.

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No, I know. Well, he said that.

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Oh, okay. Most people didn't watch the whole video.

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If you actually watched the whole video, he never intended to leave forever.

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Yeah, I did not, too. He was back and he did a video on making bells

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because, of course, it's Tom Scott. And it was interesting.

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Cool.

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I think I've actually seen MatPat at more events

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since he retired than I did before he did as well.

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Although he seems to actually be chilling out

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in terms of just who knows.

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Maybe he won't actually come back, come back. I think I said back when both of them retired

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that it was just like, yeah, no. It's very temporary, I thought, for both of them.

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They just seem like people that got to make, you know.

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Both strike me that way. I don't...

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I never followed MatPat's stuff as closely, so I don't know.

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But yeah, I was rather certain.

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You watching on YouTube or Nebula? YouTube.

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That's wild. One week early access on Nebula

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for a video announcing your return. No, no, no.

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It's just his actual new video.

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No, no, people are saying it was a week ahead on Nebula.

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Yeah, but it's not a video announcing his return.

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I thought he did. He has returned. Oh, maybe I just saw a tweet or something.

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It's a full-format video. Yeah, I didn't watch the video. I saw a tweet or something then.

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I think he also announced his return. Maybe that was a week early.

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I have no idea. Apparently it was a head for both videos. Yeah.

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Sure, whatever. Yeah, that's what... It's just wild to do like an announcement

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and have early access for it. Because you'd think then it would like leak or something.

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But I don't think I actually saw people talking about it until it hit YouTube.

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I have no idea, man.

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Cool.

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Welcome back. As far as I'm concerned, you were never gone.

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You don't really watch YouTube, so...

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All right, should we do this thing?

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Okay.

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Yeah. Yeah, let's go.

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Walls to the wall.

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Hold on. Is there a lot of latency?

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Yeah, well, just in light of recent events, I wanted to check if there's any jet lag.

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It's going to be a long show. I'm going to die.

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I'm not going to make it.

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All right. Good news. Wanshoe ruined by excessive puns.

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Linus is too boring. There's nothing to be mad about.

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So he's just like turning every single thing into a pun.

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What is life without chaos?

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As far as villain arcs go, I think I could get behind that one.

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It's not too bad. Good news, bad jokes.

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Oh, that sounds like a podcast name. It really does, actually.

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Oh, my God. Wow.

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Can we rebrand the second time? The GNBJ.

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It could be taken another way. Good night, BJ.

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Yes. That was the joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, man. All right. We should really start.

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Okay. Oh, wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So just signal me when we're live. We'll do this thing. What did we settle on for title again?

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I don't remember. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Linux.

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Okay, cool. I'm taking credit. Okay.

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You guys both ready? Oh, yeah. You take credit.

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Sorry. Sorry. That was my bad.

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I started it.

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What's up, everybody, and welcome to the WAN Show.

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Happy Friday.

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We're going to take off by starting with...

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Sorry. Sorry. It's going to be a rough one.

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Despite it being a good news WAN Show. A turbulent show.

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Oh, my God. We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week.

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It is officially the first week of Good News April.

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Yes. So with some exceptions, it's all good news all the time on the WAN Show, and we're starting

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with the Steam survey saying that Linux is up by over double its previous market share.

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Now, that might... Kind of. Well, yeah, we'll have to get into a little bit more detail, but hey, hold on a second.

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Other fantabulous spectacular news, DDR5 pricing in China seems to be facing a, this

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is a quote, complete collapse due to changes in the market.

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Thank God. Is this finally some good news for gamers who just want a little bit more memory?

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Can we build computers again? That would be cool.

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I'd be so down. I'd be super down.

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What else we got? Oh, yeah, I'm definitely prepared for this.

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Not only are RAM prices dropping because of a particular reason, but also Google's Turboquant

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AI compression algorithm can reportedly reduce LLM inference memory usage by like six times.

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Yeah, to like one-sixth. Which is crazy.

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A six times reduction or a one-sixth non-reduction.

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Yeah. I'll take one more quick.

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Professional show. Artemis 2. Oh, yeah.

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You're such a space geek. I can't believe we haven't talked about this yet.

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There's a few topics relating to that, so I'm just going to say that in general.

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Yeah, Artemis 2. My favorite one is Outlook.

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What? Where did this come from?

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I have a little rabbit hat?

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Why? This is so short.

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The show is brought to you today by Dbrand. Oh, dude, Squarespace and Good Lord, I missed the last one.

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Oh, man. Proton mail alongside, sorry.

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Our chair partner, Razer. Our laptop partner, also Razer, and our rap partner, Dbrand.

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Who made that? It was probably Noki. Yeah.

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That makes sense. Had to have been Noki. That was amazing.

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That's crazy. That was some art.

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I had no idea that was coming. That was art.

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All right. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic, which is, of course, the Steam Survey.

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So here, let's fire it up here.

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And I just want to open by saying that over one month ago, three people started a Linux

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challenge. Here we are just over one month later, and Linux Market Share has jumped.

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Where's the bloody operating system part?

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There it is. Okay. Operating system.

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No, not OS version. Good Lord. We've actually played with this in a while.

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Click for more info. Where's the damn thing?

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Here we go. Linux Market Share has jumped by 3.1% to 5.33, with Arch, by the way, leading the way.

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Mint in second place. Ubuntu in third.

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Mint again in fourth. Ubuntu again in fifth.

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And Manjaro bringing up the rear.

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A few of those could condense it a little bit.

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Let's talk about the real reasons, because obviously it's not because we're doing the

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Linux challenge. Something like this might have happened.

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One, maybe some sampling bias.

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The Steam Hardware Survey is not a complete capture every month of every system with

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Steam installed on it. Apparently, I'm reading on foronix.com, and if we tune in here a little bit, you can

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see that it was dropping, actually.

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Steam on Linux ended 2025 around 3.5%, dipped in January, dipped in February, and then kind

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of slammed back up. And that might be where that sampling bias is from, or something like that.

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I'm not really sure. However, however. Overall, though, it's up.

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Overall, though, it seems like the trajectory we're on is pretty good.

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And 5.33% is pretty good.

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Those are real numbers. Yeah.

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That's like a user base that you care about now. Yeah.

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And I mean, look. It's not massive, but it's pretty good.

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I talked about this back when Valve launched the Steam Deck, is I went like, look, if they

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sell enough of these things, game developers will simply not be able to afford to ignore

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it. And Man, is it starting to feel like the critical mass is there?

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Like, there are certain game devs that have just come out and said, we will never support

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Linux, just because of kernel-level anti-cheat is essential to our business model and our

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way of life. And therefore, it is simply never going to happen.

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And you know what? There's going to be a lot of platforms that they can continue to develop for.

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Windows, they can continue to develop for a console.

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I actually, I don't know the status of anti-cheat on macOS.

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Like legitimately, I just... I don't know either.

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Anyone know anything about that? What I do know is Arc Raiders works on Linux.

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I just keep running into games. Like last week on the show, it was brought up that I was thinking like, well, I'm going

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to need a Windows VM or something to play Horizon when it comes out, Forza Horizon.

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And then the chat was like, no, you're fine, dude.

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And then one of my buddies messaged me and was like, hey, man, we should play Arc Raiders

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again. And I was like, yeah, I don't know. Doing this Linux challenge thing.

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Give me a sec. And I looked it up. Platinum.

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It's like, oh, okay. Never mind. I don't know if I've talked about this on Wanshow, but I wrote a big chunk about it in my notes

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for Elijah for the upcoming parts of Linux challenge.

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We know we owe you guys some videos on that. We have all been using Linux and we've all been making notes.

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I'm still on there. But one of the things that I wrote was that I think a huge part of the hurdle for people

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is that they have in their minds that Linux is replacing Windows for them.

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And in a lot of ways it is because it's fulfilling a similar role in their life.

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But hear me out. What if there could be a change in perspective or a change in mindset where instead of thinking

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about Linux as a replacement for Windows, we think about it as more of like an appliance,

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more of like a console from a gaming standpoint, from a gaming standpoint, right?

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Because that's the perspective of the Linux challenge is like, as a gamer, can I switch

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to Linux? And if you alter your perspective in that way, all of a sudden you stop thinking, what

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are the Windows games I can't play? What are the PC games that my PC can't play?

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And you start thinking more like an Xbox or a PlayStation gamer from back before everything

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was cross-platform or whatever. You kind of go, okay, rather than these are the PC games I can't play, these are the Linux

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games that are available for my console.

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I run a Linux console. And to be clear, cross-platform is a very good thing.

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It's a good thing for consumers. Greater compatibility is a good thing for consumers.

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I'll always support both of those things. But if you're looking to make a change when full, complete, cross-compatibility of every

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software forever doesn't yet exist, if you could just flip that little switch in your

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brain, do you think way more people could just make the shift?

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Yeah, I think so. I think for some people there's killer apps. I think killer apps are actually more important than people realize.

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I think Halo being really good was why Xbox mattered and then Halo not being very good

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anymore is why, in a lot of cases, Xbox doesn't matter anymore.

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So if your killer app is compatible, then it's probably fine.

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I was really surprised to see that ArcGraders was totally chill.

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But there are shooters out there.

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If you're into Counter-Strike, that also works. But I don't think Valorant does.

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So if you're into Valorant, this console is not going to be one that you would want.

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So same argument. It's completely fine, but it's just not going to work for you.

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I think that argument is fine. It just, yeah, like I said, you fall back on the killer app thing.

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And I think, if my experience is anything to go by, you might be surprised your stuff

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might work just fine because even your game might have anti-cheat and it might just not

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be kernel level and thus be fine. Like there is a lot of anti-cheat stuff that works on Linux.

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It's fine. I'm going to say something kind of toxic Linux net computer here.

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Yes, killer apps are totally a thing. And I get that.

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But from a gaming standpoint, do you really need to play that game?

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This is interesting because I suspect if we go back a decent amount of WAN shows, I think

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you've said the opposite in the past, but you've been probably interested in enjoying

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your Linux experience enough that you've been slipping now.

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It's, you know what? I wrote a couple paragraphs about this as well.

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It's less that I'm enjoying Linux so much and it's more that...

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I know where you're going and I totally agree.

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Microsoft is actively pushing me away. Yeah.

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And Microsoft is actively pushing me away and the Linux experience has gotten so much

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better since the last time we tried it. There's still a lot of friction for me anyway.

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I'm experiencing actively experiencing friction on Linux daily still.

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I had to a little bit this past week, but it was solvable.

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But I was shooting an AMD Ultimate tech upgrade earlier this week and it was actually for one

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of our members of the business team, Sven.

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He lives in the coolest mom's basement of all time. Seriously.

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At one point in the video, I'm just like, dude, our audience is going to hate you.

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And he's like, why? I'm like, because you have so much cool shit.

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Like seriously, it is like the best.

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It's so cool. And he even has a girlfriend.

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He's got his CRT, all his modern consoles, all his vinyls, all his collectibles, a girl

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like he's living his best life. And I think people are just going to, I don't think people can handle it right now.

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Anyway, so you guys should watch the video because Sven's energy is he's just kind of

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like low key cool. No, he's still. And we had a really great time shooting together.

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But where was I going? This right.

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So we swapped out his motherboard and CPU because the series is obviously sponsored by AMD.

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It's AMD ultimate tech upgrade. So we threw a 9800 X3D in there and to go with his, he didn't upgrade his GPU, but like

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that's fine. You could still get some more FPS. And we went to fire up the machine so we could just get some b-roll of him, gaming, vibing,

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enjoying his new system and fucking Microsoft.

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It did the thing where it's like your pin is not available right now.

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What are you talking about? What does that even mean?

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Can you like, imagine it, imagine I roll up at the bank, okay, I'm at the Costco.

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I don't have a mastercard. I pull up my debit card, which is my last resort, cut my life into pieces and I put it

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in the machine. It goes, sorry, sir, your pin's not available right now.

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What the fuck does that mean? That doesn't mean anything.

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So we're going through this and we had to switch which network adapter we were plugged

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into so we could get an internet connection so that he could log into his Microsoft account

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with his actual password and then do his 2FA and then put his pin and it's like, bro,

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this is my computer. I'm trying to use it, you know?

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Get out of my way. And Microsoft just can't.

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Yeah. It can't help it.

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Yeah, like so the thing that I ran into this, actually, before we forget, I want to jump

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back to this, on Pharaonix again, they pointed out that part of the jump appears to be because

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Valve corrected for Steam China numbers. So simplified Chinese went down by 31.85%.

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And then that shifted a lot of other things because of those users being removed from

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the survey and that, I guess, indirectly resulted in Linux numbers jumping.

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So pirated Windows is more popular than not pirated Windows is what I'm reading here.

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Because if you take out a market that, I mean, we all know software piracy in China kind

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of a thing. Huge, yeah.

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All of a sudden the appeal of Windows goes way down when you go to the more Western markets

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where piracy might not be quite as rampant. Is Steam Deck significantly more popular in Western countries and not China, basically?

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Because a Steam Deck, at least at the beginning, was not your only computer, right?

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It's a superfluous, it's a luxury purchase.

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Even though it's, look, I've talked extensively about this in the past.

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It is a heck of a machine for the price that Valve managed to do it at, like serious kudos

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to them for making it so accessible. But it is a luxury purchase.

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Its sole reason for existing was to play games on a teeny tiny little screen.

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If I lived somewhere that I didn't have Western income, then it would be less likely for me

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to buy something like that versus the one computer that I probably already have.

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So, yeah, no, I could see the Steam Deck being less popular. I also don't know if it launched in China at the beginning.

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I have no idea. No idea.

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Yeah, it's interesting. Now back to the Linux challenge stuff.

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I had an experience where we were kind of talking about this a little bit earlier, but both

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of my hard drives- Oh, never is the answer. It has never had an official direct release in mainland China.

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So regardless of its status as a luxury purchase or not, it just doesn't exist there.

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So it's probably not contributing to the numbers at all. Okay, cool.

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Carry on, sorry. Both of my hard drives are dying.

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I had some indication that this might have been starting a while ago.

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The hard drive started to get a little bit louder, but it wasn't that bad. And then within the last week, cries of pain started happening.

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I was explaining to Emma that I had to buy annoyingly expensive hard drives, and I was

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complaining about it. She was like, well, do you have to right now?

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And I was like, here, come with me. And then I walked over to my computer and was just like, just listen.

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Almost nothing's even happening right now. And just listen.

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And she's like, oh yeah, you need those now. She doesn't even know anything about computers.

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And she's like, there's just no way that's right. It sounds like there's a tiny hammer in my computer.

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It's just not good.

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And part of that process was that I started moving a bunch of data around because I'm like,

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okay, well, you know, I don't have like super mission critical stuff on here.

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It's mostly a game drive and then a like dump drive that I just do random tasks on.

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But there are things on here that would kind of suck to lose. So let's make sure I shuffle stuff around.

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And if these do die before the new drives come in, or if they die during a day to transfer

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to the new drives or whatever, I'm going to feel less bad about it.

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And in doing that, I wanted to format one of the drives because I have also read.

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Up until now, I have kept my game drive exactly as it was when I was on Windows,

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meaning my game drive was NTFS.

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But I have read that proton struggles with NTFS a lot.

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I've read that too. So I was like, okay, I don't actually know how to pronounce it.

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Some people have laughed at me pronouncing it this way. But my OS is drive, is ButterFS, BTRFS.

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I've heard it called ButterFS. Is that wrong? You might have heard that from me. I've heard better FS as well.

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But that seems probably like a fanboy nickname. I just thought it was funny to call it ButterFS.

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I'm using ButterFS. Whatever.

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That thing is my OS drive. But I was looking into some stuff, trying to learn some things.

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And it sounded like for a game drive, I don't necessarily care that much about roll backs

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and stuff on. Like the reasons why I wanted to do it for my operating system drive.

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It's less important. So I went with EXT4. And trying to do that.

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Was pretty annoying. I'm just going to be honest.

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The process was pretty annoying. Even like, I did a huge transfer off of one of the drives to another.

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And I just copy and pasted in the GUI. And then I noticed just like, visually, that like, I don't think all the files are there.

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And then I did some diving and like, a ton of the files didn't get transferred.

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And I started looking into it. And the pronoun to answer was like, why are you using a GUI for this?

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And I'm like, bruh. It's copy and pasting files.

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Come on. I can imagine there being cooler, better ways.

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But I shouldn't have to command line R-sync to just copy and paste some folders from one

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drive to another. Yeah.

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And then I went through that and like, I don't love that experience, but it's fine.

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I can do it. I just, I shouldn't have to. It was funny.

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I actually cheated during the Linux challenge because I had to transfer some files.

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And they were coming off of an SD card that was just in a random device.

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It was in a tentacle sink, an audio recorder.

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And my Linux laptop, when I was on vacation, like absolutely diary it all over itself,

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trying to read and copy it. Like it was really scary.

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It, it, it not only like didn't work to copy it, but it like told me it was corrupted.

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And it 100% wasn't, I put it in Yvonne's laptop, her Windows laptop.

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And it just immediately worked. And I was able to upload it to drive. And I suspect it's down to the file system that was on it.

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It definitely could be. And I had that same suspicion as well.

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And then I tried command line R-sync.

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It also didn't work. Really? Yeah.

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Same thing happened. Certain files didn't get transferred. See, this is something that I've always found.

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And okay, I'm probably going to reveal some sort of horrible ignorance that people will

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mock me for, but hey, it's the WAN Show, baby.

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This is something that I have never really understood.

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Why is doing it through a GUI different?

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For something like file copies, why does it not just do the exact same thing

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behind the GUI? Why does it matter if I drag them like this or I type the thing like this?

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It was, I'm just going to address chat really quick. It wasn't file ownership permissions.

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I think it was just erroring often. I think maybe due to something with NTFS, I'm getting into areas that I don't understand.

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But the way that I was able to solve it was I instead of transferring the entire drive at

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once, I went through and did one major folder at a time, GUI, and it worked fine.

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I just had to like kind of baby it. And then I got everything.

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It just kind of sucked. I couldn't do the whole thing at once. But yeah, I mean, I can understand there's a lot of little options and tweaks and things like

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Arsync has a lot of control over how you want to do the transfer and stuff.

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But then like, shouldn't it probably assume? Do you want it to ignore certain errors?

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Do you want it not to? Shouldn't it probably assume the way I want it to do the transfer is to

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get the files from here to there for the most part?

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I don't know.

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I was pretty surprised by that problem. All right. I do suspect it's just like Linux not playing nice with NTFS.

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Okay. And then once the drive was on EXT4, I did not have similar problems.

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Okay. So I haven't used it extensively yet, but I suspect it's just like,

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okay, I'm trying to bring my Windows drives around with me still.

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And my initial very light amount of research being like,

00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:17.840
can I just leave everything how it was on Windows was like, the answer was yes.

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And clearly it worked for over a month. So it is kind of yes.

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But it's more yes, asterisk, there might be some problems.

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Yes, temporarily. Yes, kind of like when I downloaded that beta build of Bazlight with the Steam Deck experience

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for NVIDIA, where it was like, yes, but it probably should have had a much larger asterisk.

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And it does now. So no one will make the same mistake that I did.

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I took Fig Newt and says, even within Windows, I only do parts of libraries at a time.

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The file transfer f's up all the time. I don't have that experience, to be completely honest.

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It depends. I know it's like a thing that can happen, but I have not run into that.

00:30:56.320 --> 00:31:01.440
With the slower your device, and I mean both the storage and compute,

00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:06.000
the more chance that it will just like trip over itself and bung itself up.

00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:11.840
Windows Explorer is not the most stable piece of software on the face of the earth.

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I think that's a non-controversial take.

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So I can totally see that. And I have to give it credit of once I finished the whole process, which was pretty annoying,

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but once I finished the whole process and got it onto EXT4, then everything seemed to be fine.

00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.640
But you said your drives were dying, definitely could have contributed to the errors.

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Yeah, I would have liked it to have been handled better though.

00:31:38.800 --> 00:31:41.840
I might have missed something, I don't know. I think what happened-

00:31:41.840 --> 00:31:45.280
That was such a good Karen line. I'm going to use that someday. I might have missed something.

00:31:45.280 --> 00:31:48.640
I would have liked for it to have been handled better. Yeah.

00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.400
No, but I mean by that, when I did the file transfer thing,

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if it did error, if there was problems, it should just tell me.

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I did the transfer, but I missed 100,000 files,

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because that's the magnitude to which it was off. You missed 100,000 of the shots you didn't take.

00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:09.280
And if it could tell me, hey, these folders got transferred fine,

00:32:09.280 --> 00:32:16.480
these top-level folders got transferred fine, that would have been nice to know too. I wonder if the same developer went to work on Apple's transfer to iOS feature.

00:32:17.760 --> 00:32:21.120
It just misses it. Did I ever show you the screenshots from that that I got,

00:32:21.120 --> 00:32:25.200
where it's like 40,000 files and it transferred like two dozen or something like that?

00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:29.760
I think you did. Why did you even try at that point? You should have just not bothered.

00:32:29.760 --> 00:32:31.920
But yeah, so I think using...

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I even heard from people who are like hyperlinux-pilled and been using Linux for freaking 20 years,

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and I asked them about the NTFS thing and they're like, I mean, it's probably fine, but they haven't used it, because why would they?

00:32:46.800 --> 00:32:54.400
I think that's something that is easy for superlinux-pilled people to miss,

00:32:55.120 --> 00:32:59.760
is that there's a lot of things that... It's the curse of knowledge, right?

00:32:59.760 --> 00:33:04.320
That they know and intuitively do that is best practice on Linux,

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and that someone did a workaround just in case you don't do it that way.

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But it hasn't been validated. It hasn't been tested across every distro.

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It hasn't been tested across every desktop environment. It hasn't been tested across every dumb user.

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Sorry, I should have pointed it myself. I need accounts.

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And it hasn't been tested across every hardware config, right? I even think...

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I have a tinfoil hat fully on.

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My drives were dying already. I think the Linux challenge accelerated it.

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Interesting. Because I would both die at the same time.

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Both started dying. The games drive is the main one having problems,

00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.480
but both have bad sectors, but the games drive has like four times the bad sectors is the other one.

00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:51.200
Okay, but would anything about your file system being not

00:33:51.760 --> 00:33:59.040
Linux compatible make it flash more? Here's the thing is apparently Proton doesn't play nice with NTFS,

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and it's the games drive that is suffering more than the other one.

00:34:03.040 --> 00:34:09.200
Now, the games drive just gets more use and always did. So I don't know how fair this is, and I could just be completely off.

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Because he's a gamer, folks. He's a gamer, ladies and gentlemen. But there's like, you know, Slay the Spire 2.

00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:19.920
Yeah. So that's a smaller, slower game. So, okay, that can be installed on my hard drive games drive.

00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:23.840
That's been open a lot. Right, right, right, right, right.

00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:27.360
So has Proton been thrashing more because it doesn't play nice with NTFS?

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Literally don't know. I have literally no idea, but I have a thought.

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Have you pulled the smart data? I have. I haven't dove really deep into it.

00:34:38.160 --> 00:34:42.640
I just know that there are bad sectors. The Linux NTFS driver is reverse engineered and barely works.

00:34:42.640 --> 00:34:46.480
The stuff Proton tries to do with it will 100% cause file system corruption.

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Says on a high-kidge. Yeah. So that was not, when I did my not enough research and I'm accepting that,

00:34:54.160 --> 00:34:59.520
I basically Googled, can I keep my Windows NTFS drive on Linux to play games?

00:34:59.520 --> 00:35:07.120
And it was like, yeah. Okay. And you know what's really funny is because as much as I got for settling on PopOS after

00:35:07.120 --> 00:35:11.040
Googling it and asking an LLM, I actually did find that.

00:35:11.040 --> 00:35:15.680
I knew that, which is why I did a completely fresh install on every single one of my systems

00:35:15.680 --> 00:35:19.840
and didn't try to keep any of my games drives. Yeah, yeah. Even though I do have one.

00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:24.800
And to be clear. I was just like, I'm not going to use this because, and, oh, sorry, go ahead.

00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.800
It was fine. Except when it wasn't. For a month.

00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:33.040
How much did it cost you? Maybe a drive. Well, no, the drives were already going down.

00:35:33.040 --> 00:35:37.840
The drives already had bad sectors. It was like, I just didn't think it was quite time to replace them yet.

00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.440
They're really big drives. So them having a few bad sectors is like not the end of the world.

00:35:43.680 --> 00:35:46.800
It might have accelerated it. I was going to have to replace them anyways.

00:35:49.040 --> 00:35:52.560
And like it did function. So they were right about it functioning.

00:35:52.560 --> 00:36:00.640
Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. Also, another thing that I did this week, I talked about how I might want to do this.

00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.560
I removed my desktop environment and installed a new one.

00:36:07.680 --> 00:36:11.840
Yeah, I saw, I came across a funny thread somewhere.

00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.960
I forget why I was even reading about this, but it was like,

00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:21.760
can we stop calling them distros? A distro is just the desktop environment, and it's this,

00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:26.800
and it's a package manager, and it's this, and it's this. And they're all interchangeable anyway, and blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And it's like, okay, okay, okay, Captain Pedantic.

00:36:30.640 --> 00:36:33.680
I mean, you want to go full pedant.

00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:42.880
Then you kind of have to come full circle around to what even is the Linux operating system?

00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:47.600
It's a desktop environment and a package manager.

00:36:47.600 --> 00:36:52.720
It's all these things. So like, you wouldn't have, you can't just call the Linux kernel,

00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:56.160
the Linux operating system. In order to be an operating system, it has to like,

00:36:56.160 --> 00:36:59.840
it has to have all these things. So no, Uno reverse.

00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.320
Is that true? It doesn't need a desktop environment. Okay, it doesn't need a desktop environment.

00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:08.640
This is where the- It doesn't need a package. Pedantic stuff comes in. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.

00:37:08.640 --> 00:37:11.600
Okay, hold on. What does it need? It's going to need something.

00:37:13.520 --> 00:37:15.920
So now we're coming all the way back around. No!

00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:26.240
Defeated. Amazing. But yeah, that, it's funny because like fighting through NTFS was really annoying.

00:37:26.240 --> 00:37:30.720
Right. And then I came out on the other end and I haven't used my computer since I did that enough to like really know,

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but it seems like it's actually a lot better in a few ways. And now my hard drive is just like dead.

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But oh well, it was already dying. It is what it is.

00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.920
Replacing my entire desktop environment was so easy.

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But I just, I was actually just like stunned.

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It was wild. Well, I know uninstalling it is easy.

00:37:51.040 --> 00:37:53.040
You could do that without even meeting to do it at all.

00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:57.840
But yeah, I can. I mean, maybe you're not that good. Oh, wow.

00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:02.880
Yeah, that's, that's fair. So I replaced, I got rid of cinnamon and it's like gone.

00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:08.640
I completely removed it. Yep. I kept Hyperland, but I'm not actively really using it.

00:38:08.640 --> 00:38:17.680
And I installed KDE. And I am now even more strongly of the opinion

00:38:17.680 --> 00:38:21.040
that if you just want your thing to be smooth and to work,

00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.600
you should probably install Mint and Cinnamon.

00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.360
KDE is sick and I'm happy it's on my desktop.

00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.720
And I think I'm also happy it's not on my laptop.

00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.640
Mint and Cinnamon is just such, I'm like not surprised.

00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:41.680
It's interesting because it doesn't really get talked about that much. Like if you look into the, what should I run right now on computers?

00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:52.880
Everybody is going, yeah, screw you, Dan. Everybody is going, oh, run like Bazite or Cache and run, you know, KDE on top of them.

00:38:54.560 --> 00:38:57.760
And then we look at the Steam hardware survey and like a lot of it's Mint.

00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:04.000
Yep. And Arch. Arch is up there and Arch is Cache and Steam OS,

00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:10.480
which is where a ton of that is coming from. But I think just the like ease, man.

00:39:11.040 --> 00:39:15.440
Like there's things, I really have enjoyed KDE so far. It feels like the correct choice on my laptop.

00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.240
It feels like the correct choice to go along with Cache. Sorry, correct choice on my desktop.

00:39:20.240 --> 00:39:25.920
It feels like the correct choice to go on with Cache. The things that I'm trying to do on my desktop, KDE has been fantastic.

00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:34.880
I really like the experience. But like it doesn't feel like the, if you want,

00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:42.320
it depends on what you're min-maxing for. If you're min-maxing for less problems, you just kind of want things to work.

00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:48.720
You want the tools to just kind of be there. You want it to feel like what you're used to and you come from Windows.

00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:54.080
Mint and Cinnamon is just a fantastic combo. It's honestly just amazing.

00:39:54.080 --> 00:39:57.680
My laptop never has any problems.

00:39:57.680 --> 00:40:01.920
It is completely rock solid heart touching. It's amazing.

00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.920
Why don't we talk about some other amazing news? Sure. It's all good news this week.

00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:09.200
Yeah. How about KDE's base?

00:40:09.200 --> 00:40:12.800
It's just they're more bleeding edge. They're more performance pushing, all that kind of stuff.

00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.880
And that comes with some fairly minor problems, ones that I'm happy to deal with on my desktop.

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:23.120
But yeah. How about some good news for consumers who might have been looking to build or upgrade a PC?

00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:31.840
Want to talk about that? Yeah. DDR5 pricing in China faces, this is a quote from, I think it's WCCF tech said this,

00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.400
faces a complete collapse with shifting markets.

00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:45.200
Let's go. This has mainly seemed to have been triggered by the release of Google's turbo quant.

00:40:45.200 --> 00:40:49.440
Really? The timing doesn't look like a coincidence.

00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:56.080
However, I actually recorded a whole LTT video yesterday that was just like a,

00:40:56.080 --> 00:41:04.320
it was kind of a spur of the moment. I have some thoughts on this, where I look at sort of a longer term trend

00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:12.240
that we can trace back to like all the way back to about mid to three quarters of the way through

00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:19.440
last year of the bubble kind of already starting to unravel to mix my metaphors up a little bit.

00:41:20.160 --> 00:41:26.240
I think that turbo quant kind of like when deep seek landed is just,

00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:34.560
it's really headline grabbing and it's taken the fears that are already in the backs of

00:41:36.560 --> 00:41:42.560
of memory suppliers minds about like whether this whole thing is actually really going to

00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:50.560
go to the moon forever Artemis style and it has caused, it has taken that fear and brought it

00:41:50.560 --> 00:41:57.120
to the front of the mind and turned it into panic a little bit. I thought, I'm like, I don't know, but I thought it was the Sam Altman comments,

00:41:57.120 --> 00:42:00.880
them not following through on their rampage. Well, they happened right around the same time.

00:42:01.600 --> 00:42:04.960
Yeah. So it's like, it's like, it's like, Definitely a combo.

00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:12.640
It's, it's definitely a combo. Taiwan outlet UDN reports that RAM prices in China have dropped more than 30%.

00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:17.760
And there are even some signs that prices are dropping in the US as well.

00:42:18.560 --> 00:42:22.240
As part of the video that I was working on yesterday, here we go.

00:42:22.240 --> 00:42:25.600
Okay, look, is it back to normal yet?

00:42:25.600 --> 00:42:32.400
No, but guys, don't bite a progress gift horse in the mouth.

00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.600
Okay. I do worry a little bit that it's going to be kind of like the GPU situation where the price

00:42:37.600 --> 00:42:41.200
went up and then they were just like, yeah. Well, here's the thing though.

00:42:41.200 --> 00:42:45.760
I think people are actually just not buying stuff right now. GPUs are effectively a monopoly.

00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:54.880
NVIDIA just decides how much a certain amount of FPS costs and then AMD and to a lesser extent,

00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:59.280
Intel, I actually really respect what Intel has done and how scrappy they've been trying

00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:04.960
to make arc battle mage appealing and make it make sense for gamers at a reasonable budget.

00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.800
But AMD certainly basically just goes, oh, yes.

00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:12.160
Yes, NVIDIA, thank you for determining what GPUs are worth in the market.

00:43:12.160 --> 00:43:15.760
Yes, sir. And they just kind of price their GPUs and lockstep with NVIDIA.

00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.440
Whereas RAM has actual competition to a degree.

00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.880
Have there been some price fixing scandals over the years?

00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:32.560
Yes. But at the end of the day, all of the major players building out large fabs with huge

00:43:32.560 --> 00:43:40.640
capacity that have to run and therefore are commodified effectively, meaning that if demand

00:43:40.640 --> 00:43:45.760
drops, pricing will drop. Also, yes, RAM is a commodity still.

00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:52.080
There is competition still. And so in the exact same way that we've seen it spike before,

00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:56.560
I think we will absolutely see it crash again.

00:43:56.560 --> 00:43:59.840
There's no question whatsoever. That's good to hear.

00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:03.920
And as part of the video yesterday, I was also looking at a couple of other regions.

00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:07.920
I looked at Canada. Canada actually started dipping a little bit before the States.

00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:16.160
Germany has started dipping as well. So I didn't look too far beyond that because I kind of went, okay, well, China, Germany,

00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.000
Canada, US, that gets me around the world.

00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clearly this isn't just one retailer running a promo at that point.

00:44:26.080 --> 00:44:33.120
None of this means that the shortage is over. None of this means that pricing is going to immediately go back to where it was.

00:44:33.120 --> 00:44:39.200
There has objectively been an uptick in data center spending on hardware

00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:44.480
that will impact pricing to a certain degree. Yep. And the AI build out is not going to stop.

00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:48.080
Yeah. But one of the things I get into in the video is

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how I think that it won't necessarily just continue to flywheel completely out of control.

00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.800
Because it seems like the bean counters are finally kind of going,

00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:06.480
hold on a second, how many beans are left?

00:45:08.240 --> 00:45:12.400
Can we really afford to trade all of our beans for computer memory?

00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:20.560
And I, for one, am extremely excited for five years from now when all of these data centers

00:45:20.560 --> 00:45:25.760
are out of date and make absolutely no sense to keep running with energy pricing being what it is.

00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.240
And I can get like a couple cool AI cards and put them in like smashchamps for like

00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.560
cool computer vision. Yeah, some of those AI cards are weird.

00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:40.080
Yeah, but I mean, they should do AI, right? I don't know if they're going to slot into your desktop computer though.

00:45:40.080 --> 00:45:45.280
I don't, it doesn't need to be a desktop computer. Oh, okay. I mean, look, they're going to be dismantling these things.

00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.560
Who's going to take them? Yeah, that'll be really interesting. Like, man, that's another video I want to make.

00:45:50.560 --> 00:45:53.040
What is the format of those GPUs that are like a tower?

00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:59.760
What is that called? Oh, for crying out loud. I forget what it's called. We saw it on the recent NVIDIA data center tour.

00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:03.360
Yeah. Someone, someone tell me what they're called. SM something.

00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:07.200
S, SXM, SXM. SXM, yeah.

00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:10.480
Those cards like... But here's the thing. I don't know what you're talking about.

00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:13.520
Okay, so did I talk on Wansho already?

00:46:13.520 --> 00:46:18.160
I can never tell the difference between when I talked about something on Wansho

00:46:18.160 --> 00:46:23.360
and when I did a video scrum and laid out an outline for a topic.

00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:32.480
Sure. So stop me if I've talked about this before, but a major tragedy right now is the way that

00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.320
data center hardware no longer trickles down to consumers.

00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:44.800
Like remember how buying a couple generation old Xeon was like the hack to getting a sick gaming

00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.480
desktop? What am I looking at here?

00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.600
Was this an adapter? Yo. Okay, yeah. So that's a thing.

00:46:51.600 --> 00:46:53.920
All right. I'm a little more excited about the future now.

00:46:55.120 --> 00:46:58.720
That's sick. I did. Okay. Did I talk about this already?

00:46:58.720 --> 00:47:03.360
Okay. I talked about this already, but one of the things that will happen because it has to

00:47:03.520 --> 00:47:10.720
go somewhere, like these giant just money is no object data centers full of tens and tens

00:47:10.720 --> 00:47:14.080
and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of GPUs.

00:47:14.080 --> 00:47:18.000
Like it's not like they're just going to, you know, grind them up to make their bread.

00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:25.360
Like they're going to do something with them. And so I think HomeLab is going to have an absolute like revolution in five years.

00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.640
Dude, an absolute revolution in five years.

00:47:28.640 --> 00:47:38.000
Dude, an absolute revolution in five years. Dude, an SXM to PCIe adapted data center card in my house sounds freaking sweet.

00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.040
Yeah. That sounds awesome. Yeah. Why only one?

00:47:41.040 --> 00:47:45.200
And the RAM. Yeah. That sounds like fun tinker. Oh, well, the space might be different.

00:47:45.200 --> 00:47:49.200
The RAM will be salvageable. The RAM will be salvageable. Browser card? I bet you could liquid cool it.

00:47:49.200 --> 00:47:53.200
So you don't have to deal with the noise because these things are like up to like 800

00:47:53.200 --> 00:47:56.480
or even more wide. They're insane, dude.

00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:57.440
Yeah, they're crazy.

00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.080
Mr. O. Mutt says Wendell's going to buy it all.

00:48:05.520 --> 00:48:10.960
I don't know, man. Wendell, Wendell, Wendell's pretty, he likes to be on the cutting edge.

00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:13.760
I think he might just have the newer stuff at that point.

00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.920
Mineral oil cooling would be super cool, John Br.

00:48:20.080 --> 00:48:25.120
But yeah, I'm. It's a lot of wattage to mineral cool. It's, I'm excited, I'm super excited.

00:48:26.240 --> 00:48:28.960
And I think it's, I think it's, I think it's happening.

00:48:29.520 --> 00:48:34.000
I, and. Yeah. Well, I think we're starting to.

00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:41.760
I'm really glad because I've taken kind of a, this is temporary stance on this.

00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:44.800
And I've kind of taken some flak for that.

00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:49.680
I thought it was going to take longer than this. Why aren't you advocating for consumers more?

00:48:49.680 --> 00:48:53.280
Why don't you see Micron pulling out of the consumer market as like this terrible,

00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.000
terrible, terrible thing? And I guess it's just because I've been through so many cycles.

00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.680
Like RAM, RAM is like this, man.

00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:08.960
It's always up and down and up and down. And this time it was, it was kind of, it was like a big cycle.

00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.880
Like this was, and, and it really, it happened really suddenly.

00:49:13.680 --> 00:49:18.000
Maybe that's, and it was a really awful timing. Right in the holiday season, man.

00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:21.680
Like it just, there were so many things about it that just sucked. Yeah.

00:49:21.680 --> 00:49:26.080
I, at the same time though, like, I don't know, I, I do think it's a signal.

00:49:27.040 --> 00:49:32.160
I am very hopeful, all that kind of stuff. But like if we look at, people have been talking about Micron's stock price.

00:49:32.160 --> 00:49:36.880
Yeah. If we look at Micron, they're, they're, they're, they're one year.

00:49:38.240 --> 00:49:42.800
Yeah. 392%, year to date, 16%, six months, 94%.

00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:47.040
But Tulip Mania happened over a span of half a decade though.

00:49:47.040 --> 00:49:54.960
Over the last month, they're only three and a half percent now. These things, okay, but, but, but remember once, once Tulips started to fall.

00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.960
No, I hear you. Like here, here, this, this screenshot, this screenshot is actually,

00:50:00.720 --> 00:50:04.320
I just don't, I'm not a hundred percent convinced it's happening right now.

00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.120
This screenshot is in, is in the video.

00:50:08.640 --> 00:50:12.400
Yeah. Tulip bulbs, 1699 Canadian.

00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:16.000
Once they started to crash, once the house of cards starts to collapse,

00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:22.640
it happened, it can happen really fast. Apparently this didn't make it into the video because I just read it last night.

00:50:22.640 --> 00:50:26.320
But just because a company's not a public company,

00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:33.920
doesn't mean that shares can't be traded. And apparently this is Scuttlebutt, but apparently open AI shares are becoming

00:50:34.720 --> 00:50:39.120
quite illiquid, quite difficult to sell.

00:50:39.120 --> 00:50:45.440
And one of the things that I kind of lay out is that I see open AI as a very drop box like

00:50:46.160 --> 00:50:49.680
character in this, in this new version of, of the same

00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:59.520
movie we've watched over and over and over again. Dropbox was, was a first mover and a huge name in cloud storage in the early days of

00:50:59.520 --> 00:51:06.000
the cloud. Back when, back when that was the, the stupid keyword du jour that you couldn't

00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:09.120
see a slideshow without having it plastered all over everything, right?

00:51:09.120 --> 00:51:16.480
Yeah. And what they did was the classic Silicon Valley playbook, they got a bunch of money,

00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:21.520
they used it to acquire an enormous user base and they focused on, you know, one

00:51:22.080 --> 00:51:27.760
admittedly super cool and innovative thing. And then they tried to convert that user base to a paid user base.

00:51:28.720 --> 00:51:35.040
It didn't go too great. And then the incumbents, the big players, ultimately ate their lunch.

00:51:35.040 --> 00:51:41.280
And I mean, show of hands, who has the Dropbox app installed on their computer or phone?

00:51:42.720 --> 00:51:46.560
Anyone? I think your hand can be up because we use it for like, scripts or something, right?

00:51:46.560 --> 00:51:51.760
Bueller? Not anymore. Oh. Dan, Dan apparently has dropped, you still use Dropbox.

00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:53.600
I do. What do you like about it?

00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:57.920
I used to use it more before I had the NAS. God, got him.

00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.560
The internal sync was great. I don't know. It's just, it's just good.

00:52:02.560 --> 00:52:05.840
Yeah. Quality product. It's just fine. Nothing wrong with it? Nope.

00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:09.120
But there's also no question that. Do you pay for it? Yeah.

00:52:09.120 --> 00:52:13.280
Apple and Google and Microsoft have overall won that war.

00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:20.960
And so I see open AI as being in a very similar kind of position where they were a first mover,

00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:27.680
a very early mover, a big innovator, great brand presence, huge user base.

00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:34.400
But are they really going to take that and go from losing billions and billions of

00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:38.000
dollars a quarter to making billions and billions of dollars a quarter?

00:52:39.200 --> 00:52:42.480
Really? Yeah. Or is it going to be Google?

00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:46.880
No, Dropbox is not that cheap.

00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:51.840
No, because it isn't, right? It never was. It was always, the whole thing was always fake.

00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:56.480
It was always VC money subsidizing you to have it for cheap so that you could get locked in later.

00:52:56.480 --> 00:53:02.480
It's, it's, whether it's Dropbox or Uber or fricking Adobe.

00:53:03.680 --> 00:53:08.880
Well, actually no, in that case, it was just Adobe's giant boatloads of money from selling

00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.920
expensive software that they converted into even giant boatloads of money from selling

00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:17.040
subscriptions. That was a different model, slightly different.

00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:21.120
Yeah. Yeah. Discord is another example from Pankrats in the chat.

00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:29.200
So because of, because of all of these, this, this really does, the video does, I admit,

00:53:29.200 --> 00:53:35.680
have a little bit of like string on a bulletin board energy, but I'm just seeing a lot of

00:53:35.680 --> 00:53:39.120
signals. And there are signals the other way, like NVIDIA's only down a little.

00:53:39.600 --> 00:53:43.760
Yeah. Google's only down a little, right?

00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:47.360
And I, and I, and I point out these things, like there are ones that are, that, you know,

00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:49.680
their stock prices is not impacted in any way.

00:53:50.720 --> 00:53:53.920
NVIDIA's, I guess they're down, okay.

00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:58.560
Yeah, relatively. Not the last five days, but over the last six months, one month, yes.

00:53:58.560 --> 00:54:02.080
Compared to like Oracle, and then there was another one that I, that I was using as kind of

00:54:02.080 --> 00:54:10.880
like a proxy for AI companies as well. And, and, but the difference is that the companies that are only down a little have real

00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:18.000
revenue. Yeah. And like real businesses, other than just like, rah, rah, rah, AI, what if you gen, what if

00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.360
you put AI in your video so that you could make video with AI?

00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:25.840
And what if you did AI in your butt and then your butt could be intelligent?

00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:29.120
Like, like just everything's AI, just put every AI in everything.

00:54:29.120 --> 00:54:32.880
Like it's, like NVIDIA has an identity other than AI.

00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:37.760
And so does a company like, like Alphabet. I feel like I need a South Park episode on butt AI.

00:54:39.040 --> 00:54:43.760
I mean, do you know for sure they haven't done one? I didn't watch the entire last season.

00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.440
It's, it's possible. It's just like the sort of thing they might do.

00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:53.600
We go all the way back to season one, episode one, and the aliens just put AI in his butt

00:54:53.600 --> 00:54:58.800
instead of a big satellite dish. What, what do you want to jump to now?

00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:05.920
You know what? I'd like to take a moment and say to everyone who is upset about Good News WAN Show month,

00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:12.160
don't worry, it's temporary. We're going to, we're going to go back to just kind of doing everything after April.

00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:17.600
But so far, it's been kind of nice. I'm actually having way more fun.

00:55:17.600 --> 00:55:20.160
Yeah, I'm not like angry. Yeah.

00:55:22.160 --> 00:55:25.120
I really like Good News WAN Show so far. Yeah.

00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:29.280
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:55:30.640 --> 00:55:35.280
I'm, I'm, I feel happier today because we're doing Good News WAN Show.

00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:39.120
Want to pick something? Yeah. Do you feel more excited to pick a topic?

00:55:39.120 --> 00:55:45.760
Yeah, kind of. Me too. Yeah. Like I scrolled through and saw a few options I wanted to talk about and landed on one that like

00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:50.080
felt in, very in tone with what you were just saying. Where's the last, when's the last time that happened?

00:55:50.080 --> 00:55:56.320
It's a very long time. No, but really. And I'm not even, I'm not even using a cop out and talking about Artemis.

00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:59.520
Think about that. That's crazy. I found another topic.

00:55:59.520 --> 00:56:01.520
It sounds really fun to talk about. That's actually unhinged. Yeah.

00:56:02.720 --> 00:56:08.320
Okay. Yeah, do it then. Someone made a website for scheduling play sessions to revive old multiplayer games.

00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:11.440
Okay. Called Game Date. This is so cool.

00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:15.360
This I, this isn't necessarily new, but I don't think we've talked about on WAN Show before.

00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.640
YouTuber Batty, Batty built Game Date.

00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.560
I think it's just YouTuber Batty. B-A-T-T-Y.

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Built Game Date. Free anonymous scheduling platform for dead or underpopulated multiplayer games.

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People are already scheduling sessions for things like Unreal Tournament 2004,

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Battlefront II, like the original one I'm assuming,

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Crisis Wars and Blur. Oh, cool. Yeah.

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The site recently added a full discussion board with image board style features,

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including green text, quote links, and a smugglers den section specifically for surfacing useful info

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like server IPs, mods, patches, fans translations, stuff like that to like improve the experience.

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And that's, you know, normally buried in private discord servers, but it's now easier to access.

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And also it looks amazing.

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Discuss. Is this not so freaking cool?

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So cool, dude. I think that's awesome because one of the big problems with these old games is they go in a

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self-fulfilling death spiral where there's a few less people on every time,

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and the server that you like jumping on, nobody's there, so you don't log on.

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And nobody's at exactly the same level as you. So no one else logs on, and then it just kind of spirals down.

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And this way you can kind of just spark some fun experiences playing some old games,

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because a lot of these old multiplayer games are still awesome.

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They just don't have the mass that they used to have. Yeah, the snowball.

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Yeah. And I love that you brought up the issue with useful information being buried in a discord,

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because... That's from the doc, but yeah. I know, but I'm glad you brought it up because we actually, I forget who I was talking to about it

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in the office earlier this week, but the way that so much support and product and software

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information has moved into discord is like, hey, do you like my project?

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Come join my discord and we talk about it. And then it just eventually gets wiped.

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And I was talking about how when Pankratz, Pankratz did the bulk of the work,

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getting that old VR headset to work, the Forte or whatever it was called,

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when we did that video on it. And the only way that he was able to do that was by digging up old documentation and old

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discussion around it. And we're going to be in this information gap, I think, right now.

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Oh yeah. When all this exchange of information is happening on a platform that, by its very nature,

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will, is impermanent. And then this, this...

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I'm not gonna lie, I saw this, Warcraft 3 Reforged Legion TD Noob Lobby.

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And I was like, oh. Yeah. Being able to jump into a Warcraft 3 custom game and be decently confident that like,

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you know, based on whatever comments or other people signing up or however this works,

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that other people are going to be there, sounds awesome.

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That is so cool. I think we're going to lose a bunch of the stream right now, though, because like...

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There you go, start playing. How could they not go play freaking...

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I don't know, man. Dragon Ball FighterZ party mode, six player 3v3 tag, like just...

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How freaking social does this look?

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Like, remember when, remember when games weren't necessarily about maximum sweat?

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Yeah. Yeah. And you could just like play, you could jump into a random game, people are like playing

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Jackbox and stuff, like just mingling, having a life, you know?

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Feels really cool to use. I know.

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Just feels awesome. It's delightfully retro. Yeah.

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Steam 2004, if I remember correctly, something like that?

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So cool, man. Really cool. And there's a decent amount, I would really highly encourage people to at least check this out.

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There's a decent amount of like game date sessions on here that don't have a ton of

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sign-ups yet, but they look for like really cool games.

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So maybe jump on and go have some fun. Yeah, you guys should go check it out, because what do you have to lose?

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Just do something different, do something new. Man, I feel like between doomscrolling on my phone or being locked in on just that one game I play,

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I feel like the variety in my life was kind of reduced for a bit.

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Oh, yeah. That's one of the reasons that when I was on vacation recently, I had one day before we went to

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South Korea with the family, and then I had two days when I got back for me to be on vacation.

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And so on the day before I left, I ordered a bunch of parts for that RC car that I've

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wanted to fix, and then when I got back, I was just like, I'm going to fix this RC car.

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Dude, I refilled my shocks earlier this week, and it turns out that oil-filled shocks should

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definitely have oil in them. I didn't know it was just all completely gone.

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Yeah, it was just completely empty. And it's one of those things that changes so slowly that you press on them and you go,

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I mean, yeah, springs are on there. That's a shock, right? And I don't have a ton of context

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for it. I don't have a whole bunch of RC cars. I don't go out to the track and compare with

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other people. It seems like I have shocks. So no, it turns out that's why my skid plays

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kept breaking on the front, was because I effectively didn't have any flipping. I didn't

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have any damping on the shocks. So one of the four leaks, but that's half the fun.

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I'm going to open it back up. I'm going to put better grease on the O-ring,

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and then I'm going to seal it back up. And the ones that I have, it's for the Arma

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Granite 4x4 Mega 550 or something like that. The point is, for the RC nerds that are like,

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probably did it wrong, they're known to be bad. The shocks are known to be leaky and bad.

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So at the same time as I ordered new fluid and did the rebuild on all of these ones,

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I actually have new shocks in the mail. But it wasn't about that. It was about just doing

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something, flipping different. Yeah. Yeah. Moving on. Yeah. Oh, this. Dan has a thing.

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Oh. Yeah. You were actually excited to talk about something. I was. And so we got like,

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dude, it's like this. Wancho feels new again. I'm enjoying it. Yeah. We'll see what people

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think. And it'll be interesting. Like maybe we can retain at least part of this past April.

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Yeah. Maybe we could have a minimum amount of, yeah. A topic diversity quota.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. All right. We'll call it the... Nope.

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Trying to think of something that would be DEI or something like the DEI Wancho.

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Yeah. Neither of us would be hosting it though, I suppose.

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Well, yeah. I mean, what? Him? You got to be kidding me. Another white dude with a beard?

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We've hit the beard quota. We've hit... Sorry. All right. This week...

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We're doing great. This week we launched the Not A Bug t-shirt. This is what happens when you say

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not a bug, it's a feature a bit too many times. So the designers decided to make a cool graphic

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tee out of it. It's like textured. Yeah. It's pretty sick. It's a detailed wasp,

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but it has like kind of circuitry built into it. So it ends up looking like a literal digital bug.

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And as always, it's printed on our classic poly blend t-shirt. So it's super soft,

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drapes nicely, and is durable. Oh, hold on. But a Luke cam.

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You see it? It says nonace... What does that say? Is that not a bug? It's a what?

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It's Latin. I can't read Latin. What does that say? I sort of figured out I had context.

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Parable education in Canada. Do we say what it means on here? We just don't. It's got a Latin on it.

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Well, we have a form of the English translation. It's not a bug. It's a feature.

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Oh, what the heck? Okay, sure. Yeah, fine. You can kind of suss your way through it a little bit.

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The sign next or whatever that one, I had no idea what that word was, but...

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Okay. 3499 USD, 2999 CAD on the global site. Get yours today. By the way... Oh,

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I should probably actually check a lot of people. I think this was probably our most

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successful April Fools since we sold our company to NVIDIA, like really,

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really old one in terms of fooling people. The number of people that were super angry

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about us doing an ICO like rug pull thing was significant, and the number of people

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that thought that the coin was not real was very significant. The coin is real.

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Linus coin is real. You just... You buy it. It's 20 USD or 30 USD. You will...

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20 USD or 30 CAD. Sorry, 20 USD or 30 CAD. You buy it. You get this challenge coin in the mail.

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It's big. It's chunky. It's really cool. And then you get a credit on the store

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for double the value of the coin. So if you were going to buy anything in the next little bit,

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you should just buy the coin because you get double the value in gift card

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of what you spent on the coin. So it's basically free real estate.

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I got a message earlier. Girl math. Do you get to keep the coin?

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Yes. The coin is just for you for keeps for fun. It's just a cool challenge coin. You can flip it

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when you want to make a decision or whatever. It's just a cool little collectible. It's one

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per household, but we've already sold through so many of them that I think we're down to about the

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last thousand. So we were originally going to do 10,000, which is how many we minted ahead of time.

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And then like three days before, I got to give massive credit to the Creator Warehouse Engineering

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team as well as the operations team for pivoting and getting this done. I was like,

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let's do more. So we opened up another 10,000 orders, but we're going to get those minted

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over the next little bit and then it'll ship when it ships. So we're doing 20,000,

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but I think we've moved through about 19,000. So if you want to get one, it's a gift card.

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It's a discounted gift card. It's a cool collectible gift. Free collectible coin.

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Stephen Jay asks, is this a way for you to get an income stream to afford the jet?

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Most certainly not. It'll help with cash flow, but what I can tell you based on that

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this has a cost to us, like this is made of scrap metal. There were nuggets of truth in

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the April Fool's video. The fact that it's made of melted down waste zinc housings from our original

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screwdriver supplier, that's 100% true. We got screwed over on the shafts and we got screwed

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over on the housings. It really blew chunks. Obviously, we've done okay. We survived it.

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It wasn't a critical hit, but they're made of leftover remains of the original 100,000 screwdriver

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order, like bungled up production. They were done by a partner down in the States. So we

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jokingly refer to them as the 11th province in the video, a little bit of Uno reverse there.

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But yeah, they were actually minted onshore, which I think is really cool. So they do have an

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actual cost and then we're taking what you guys are paying for it and then we're giving double that

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in credit. So it doesn't take a mathematical genius to know that we are not making money on

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this part of the transaction. If you guys want the inside baseball, I can tell you that our hope

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is that after buying a $40 coin for $20, you will spend more than the $40 and maybe buy something

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that's not on mega ultra discount and load up your cart and maybe we'll make something on it.

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But if you were to buy the coin for $20 and then buy a $40 item, then like, no, that will not

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help us pay for anything. It'll be fun. It'll be for the lulls. It'll be a good time. Good times

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are had by all. That's about it. Oh, nice. Right. If you're going to pick up a coin or one of the

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new shirts or really, I mean anything on the store, there's so much, man, there's so much good stuff

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on the store these days. Oh, right. Holy crap. Have we even talked about, oh, wait, no, we did

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talk about these. We talked about these last week. Good. Yeah, fine. Flexible magnetic cable

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management. Now's a great time to do it because during the show, we do our checkout messages

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and it's a great way to interact with the show. We don't want people just throwing money at their

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screens. Quite frankly, I think based on the video that went up the other day, it's fairly obvious

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that I'm not going to come to you guys hat in hand begging for support. We are extremely

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committed to making high quality products that can stand on their own right. That's why we stopped

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referring to it as merch. And we also don't want you just throwing your money at your screen to

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people who, quite frankly, should do something for you in return. So we created checkout messages,

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which are the way to interact with the show. All you got to do is add an item to your cart.

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I got it. Oh, Luke's on it. But there you go. Add an item to your cart. You'll see the interface to

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send a checkout message. Boop. Yeah, I'd like to do that. You type a little message. It goes to

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producer Dan, who will reply to it or pop it up on the stream or will curate it for me and Luke

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to respond to. So why don't we go ahead and do a couple of those and let's chat with y'all.

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I'm getting so many in right now that people have been told that the coin is not fake.

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I knew it. It was too believable, Luke. It was really chill up until that point.

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What have you done? Okay, whatever. Hello, so many. Hello Linus, Luke, and Dan. I'm gearless.

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What motivated the decision to tear the tech house to studs instead of wiring in the crawl

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or tow boards, especially with asbestos? So that is actually why.

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I'm not going to lie. Tech house is over budget. It's behind schedule and over budget.

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Classic LTT. Times four. But there's a number of considerations. So first of all,

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me putting a hammer through the wall and discovering asbestos was obviously movie magic.

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We knew there was asbestos involved and we did work with the seller on that knowledge.

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And fully intended to deal with it. But we didn't know exactly how much there was because

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testing for asbestos is not as simple as like, you know, getting in there and smelling it.

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Like it's not that simple. You need to take actual samples of the materials and analyze them.

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You have to go sniff them at home or in a lab laboratory somewhere.

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So we knew about the asbestos. We just didn't know the full extent of it. But what we did

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know for sure was that around the entire perimeter of the house, there was asbestos for days.

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So what we did was we started some of the demolition. So you guys saw that video. I saw a lot

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of speculation that Linus was not the one who actually cleared out the basement because he

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has lackeys for that. Unfortunately, all of my lackeys you guys may or may not have noticed

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that were there that day were a solid seven inches taller than me. I was definitely the

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one in the basement. Nobody else would have even fit any house. So we did the demo video

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and then we hired professionals to come in and have a look at the perimeter.

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So they looked at the perimeter and they looked at some of the other stuff. And what we found out

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was that the caulking or the goo or the glue or whatever it is that was used for the electrical

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wiring contained asbestos. So once we found that out, what are we even talking about here? What

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are we going to do? We're going to cut the drywall. We're going to follow every wire

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and find every spot where it's got any glue on it. No, you just rip the drywall off. You take

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your lumps. And it was important to us that whoever ends up in this place, we're dealing

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with the issues. We have a brand to protect. I have my personal reputation to protect,

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believe it or not. And I take that extremely seriously, especially when it comes to issues

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around safety. So there was no way that we were just going to like sweep literal asbestos under

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the rug. So once we discovered that and they had to cut a bunch of the wiring in order to get it

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out. So once they're cutting all the electrical wiring, we got to go down to studs. So we're

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going to have some updates for you guys soon. It did end up costing like 30 plus grand or

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something like that for all of the removal, which blows. But hey, we're going to make a

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lot of videos in there. And actually going down to studs does open up some pretty exciting

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options that we've been talking about. Like one of the ideas was, you know that have you

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watched the tech house tour video? Have you even been there yet? No, I've not been there. Okay,

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well, whatever. There's this cabinet at the back of what's going to be like the upstairs kind of

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like theater, like TV watching area. And we were like, Oh, that'd be like sick as like an equipment

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cabinet. Well, we didn't think about it until the drywall was off, but it's like right above the

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garage. So without doing any HVAC or anything in there, we could just have like passive venting

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that just like dumps all the heat from there into the garage rather than rather than dumping

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it up into that already going to be like a pretty warm room and it might be kind of hard on the

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HVAC. So just like little things like that will be much easier to do now that we've got the drywall

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off. I do fully recognize that this has all of a sudden turned into like a full home renovation,

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as opposed to like tech makeover. So tech house two, okay, I'm putting my foot down.

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Tech house two, we're not taking it down to studs. It'll be we'll have to kind of

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already committing to have to adapt around it. Well, honestly, I'm having so much fun already

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with tech house one. I have heard through the grapevine that you're having a lot of fun.

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It's been it's cool. Yeah, I just find it interesting that it's like gotten to me,

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not even from you of people just be like, wow, yeah, it's like, he just seems like really like

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excited and like he's having a good time. Luke, do you have any idea how much I would rather

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crawl around in a dirty, moldy, disgusting basement? Just like finding little treasures and

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bringing them up to troll the team compared to sitting in a board room. No, I fully understand,

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trust me. Yeah, I got you. I get it. Yeah,

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like it's dude, it's I don't know, man. It's fun. It feels the tech house series feels like classic

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LTT. I remember when I was in, it must have been like grade five or six or something.

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I was in elementary school. The principal came into our class and was like, I need some help moving

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effectively furniture. Nice. And he pointed it like me and a couple other.

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Yeah. And, and we went out and helped them move around like a bunch of benches and like stuff to

01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:54.000
set up. It was some like a big event that was happening in the gym. And I remembered thinking

01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:58.320
like as I was walking back to class, I was like, I don't know exactly what I want to do

01:16:59.360 --> 01:17:02.080
as a job when I'm older, but I'd love if it was like

01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:11.840
going somewhere and doing a task, if that makes sense. And, and now I, I sit in, I sit in.

01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:16.320
Yeah, I was going to say, was this, it's the Good News WAN Show. Was this story supposed to

01:17:16.320 --> 01:17:22.560
have a happy ending? This is not really Good News WAN Show. I think it's like, I, I understand why

01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:26.480
you like it. Yeah. I wasn't surprised when people are like, yeah, he's having a good time. I'm like,

01:17:26.480 --> 01:17:33.360
yeah, cause he's out doing stuff. It makes, it's so much more fun. I, we have to find a way.

01:17:33.360 --> 01:17:36.480
Like I told you, I told you earlier in the show, like I wrote a video

01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:45.120
yesterday, like just, just spontaneously. Yeah. Like we had a cool idea because we saw like an

01:17:45.120 --> 01:17:49.120
interesting topic. I had a little brainstorm, which I often do. I'll sit and I'll do like an

01:17:49.120 --> 01:17:52.640
entire scrum for a video. I'll lay out an outline and then I'll walk away and then we'll just like,

01:17:53.360 --> 01:17:57.440
I don't know, we'll make it in like three weeks or we'll just never make it or whatever. But, but

01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:04.640
we didn't. We like, we agileed up and we were just like, okay. No waterfalls. Okay. You're making

01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:11.760
this, you're, we, we scheduled you time. Go to your office. Yeah. Go write it. Good. And so I did.

01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:18.480
I sat and I just, I just wrote it and it's, it's funny because I, I have written more than probably

01:18:18.480 --> 01:18:26.160
a lot of the audience realizes because I'm a kind of a perfectionist about certain things.

01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:33.200
And so some of the videos that like have a writer credit on them, I like basically just,

01:18:33.200 --> 01:18:43.360
I basically wrote them. I do, I edit very heavily sometimes. And, and yes, I feel really good whenever

01:18:43.360 --> 01:18:47.680
I see a comment on it that's like, Hey, and the other person who's credited as the writer, wow,

01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:53.840
this, they did a really good job. I'm like, I'll just quietly feel good about it. But in terms of

01:18:54.160 --> 01:18:59.920
just have both of you on there from scratch, from scratch though. Okay. I very rarely get to do

01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:04.880
it these days. Yeah. And in some ways it's, it's funny. I was telling Yvonne when I came home,

01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:10.400
I was like, my brain's tired, but like a good tired. It's a different kind of tired editing

01:19:10.400 --> 01:19:14.880
someone else's work, which is where, where I've flexed my brain muscle the most for the last

01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:30.560
five, six, seven years. Nice. I'm like used to it and like that muscles like hard, but it's like

01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:37.520
an uncomfortable kind of hard. Whereas like the just from scratch, just, just writing it muscle,

01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:42.560
I haven't, I haven't flexed it as much, but it was like, you know, like after a workout when

01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:48.320
you're like good tired, when you lie in your bed and you're just like, God, I'm tired. Oh,

01:19:48.320 --> 01:19:54.480
I'm going to sleep like a baby. This is amazing. I know I'm not yet, but like it was that kind of

01:19:54.480 --> 01:19:58.000
brain tired. It was so good. I'm sending you a message. Yeah. I've completely forgotten what

01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:02.160
is even called. I know that's why I'm sending you the message. He wants me to take herbal supplements

01:20:02.160 --> 01:20:07.920
and remedies. He, no, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just bucking. He's going full in on natural health

01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:19.760
products. He's not, and it's not health advice. Neither of us knows. We don't know. We don't know

01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:24.080
anything. Yeah. Don't listen. The thing we're talking about, because people started guessing

01:20:24.080 --> 01:20:28.560
last time and it was way worse, but so I'll just say it, but I'm trying to get them to take creatine

01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:34.560
monohydrate. Don't listen to me. Do your own research. Go have fun. I am not a doctor. Hooray.

01:20:35.040 --> 01:20:41.360
Cool. Good chat. Thanks. I'm talking to him. I'm not talking to you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

01:20:43.280 --> 01:20:47.680
they know that, right? Like we're just talking to each other. They know that. No, no, this is advice.

01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:51.520
Oh, oh, I didn't see you there.

01:20:55.280 --> 01:21:03.520
Was that one checkout message? Yeah, I've got like a hundred. So let's move on. Hi. Hi, Dan.XE.

01:21:04.400 --> 01:21:07.760
Yeah, listen to it again. Luke Longtorso and Gabriel Danger.

01:21:13.200 --> 01:21:20.480
That's an amazing name for you. I really like Gabriel Danger. It's freaking awesome.

01:21:22.320 --> 01:21:29.520
That's great. Linus. I might whip that out sometime. Let's go with Gabriel. Do you think

01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:36.240
it would be, no, sir, Mr. Danger, do you think it'd be fun to have the kids react to their or

01:21:36.240 --> 01:21:42.080
each other's videos of you building PCs with them when they were three? Oh, yes, it's fun. We've done

01:21:42.080 --> 01:21:49.360
it multiple times. It's actually something that we do. We have done as a family at least twice,

01:21:49.360 --> 01:21:56.640
sat and watched them all with all the kids. And I have done at least once with two of my kids on

01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:02.640
two separate occasions when their friends are over. What? I got to be an embarrassing dad.

01:22:03.360 --> 01:22:09.680
Come on. That is completely in character for me. Yeah. Completely. Definitely. And it's one of

01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:17.200
those things where like I've always had a complicated relationship with the idea of featuring our kids

01:22:17.200 --> 01:22:23.440
in our videos, especially when they were younger. Now that they're bigger, it's changing a lot.

01:22:23.440 --> 01:22:29.360
My perspective has changed quite a lot. We compensate them for their on-time camera. We

01:22:29.360 --> 01:22:39.920
always have. They are reaching a point, especially my son, where they have had experiences of what

01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:45.920
it's like to be recognized in public for who they are. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Come on. Do you

01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:53.360
think the kids at school don't know what the f*** LTT is? I feel like that's different than a random

01:22:53.360 --> 01:22:57.040
encounter. I feel like they're both very impactful, but in different ways and for different reasons.

01:22:57.040 --> 01:23:01.120
But do you think the school sports ball team doesn't go to other schools? There you go.

01:23:01.120 --> 01:23:05.360
And stuff? Yeah. Like it just happens, right? And so, you know, they can, they can, they're

01:23:05.360 --> 01:23:11.280
reaching the point now where, and, you know, obviously I'm a dad, super biased, but I have

01:23:11.280 --> 01:23:18.720
super smart kids. They're great kids where we can have conversations about it. But in the early days,

01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:25.360
before they were, before they were even remotely able to understand or consent to anything,

01:23:25.360 --> 01:23:29.520
I had a very complicated relationship with it. I mean, obviously, like any parent,

01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:36.160
I love my kids, I want to show them off. But I didn't want to turn them into like a commodity

01:23:36.160 --> 01:23:43.200
for the enrichment of the company. And so those, those three-year-old builds were just like,

01:23:44.160 --> 01:23:48.640
they felt at the time almost like a lapse in judgment with the first one. And then like

01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:51.760
something that we had to do with the other two because we did it with the first one and we

01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:57.200
didn't want the classic, well, the firstborn got all the love and attention. And why are there,

01:23:57.200 --> 01:24:01.120
hey, why are there only pictures of my brother? Like we didn't, we didn't want to do that.

01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:09.520
Looking back at it now, I am so glad we did it. I wish we'd done more, because they're such a

01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:14.800
cool little time capsule. They're one of the only times, like Yvonne and I are such like busy

01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:21.920
parents. We only almost exclusively have pictures of our kids taken on our phones, which like, if

01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:27.520
you saw Marquez's every iPhone, the same picture on every iPhone thing that he did recently,

01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:32.240
he did a short or something. Yeah, anyway, he did it. And, you know, when I was taking pictures

01:24:32.240 --> 01:24:39.040
with my phone 10 years ago, it was not great. And so those videos are one of the only pieces

01:24:39.040 --> 01:24:44.720
of media that exist of my kids that were shot professionally. Fair enough. So a lot of people

01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:53.760
will never have any really. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it was really cool. And I guess, so yes, I've done

01:24:53.760 --> 01:25:00.160
that. Thank you for your wonderful, check out message. I'm going to throw you one more check

01:25:00.160 --> 01:25:05.520
out message just because we've got a lot coming in. Tough question for Linus. Do you have a favorite

01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:13.200
cat? Oh, oh, dude. Okay, look, I love all my cats equally. Actually, I don't. They're just animals.

01:25:13.200 --> 01:25:19.200
And I don't. He's an animal farming it. I don't actually have the same rules about, you know,

01:25:19.200 --> 01:25:26.240
my cats and as I do about like people and my family and stuff. I can love them better. I can love

01:25:26.240 --> 01:25:34.080
one cat better than another cat. My favorite is, is the orange. And I'm trying to find,

01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:39.760
I, oh, I must have, shoot, I must have taken it on Yvonne's phone. I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask her to

01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:49.280
send it to me. She did this thing when she was a kitten. Can I have that picture of Missy on you

01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:57.600
for when? So she did this thing, when she was a kitten, where she would actually crawl like right

01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:05.280
up in here when we were in bed and she would like sleep like in our necks. And then when she

01:26:05.280 --> 01:26:11.120
reached like adolescence, every once in a while, she would like crawl under the covers and just

01:26:11.120 --> 01:26:18.320
like camp herself between your thighs and just like hang there. And then for a long time, like

01:26:18.320 --> 01:26:24.800
six months, she didn't do it at all. And I don't know what happened, but over the last week or so,

01:26:24.800 --> 01:26:33.040
she's just become the biggest mama's girl on the face of the earth. And she's been like sleeping

01:26:33.040 --> 01:26:41.360
like for hours at night, just like up on Yvonne's chest or like next to her leg. And last night,

01:26:41.360 --> 01:26:47.840
she hung out like right between us. So she was the middle spoon. She was, she's just being such a,

01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:57.120
she's like, she's dumb. You know, like sometimes it's not often true, but sometimes stereotypes

01:26:57.120 --> 01:27:03.760
exist for a reason. She's got a single orange brain cell and she just, it's firing at half capacity,

01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:11.680
but she is just, she's sweet and dumb, you know? She's just dumb and sweet. She's just such a sweet

01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:17.440
dumb little girl. Yeah, our orange. Will you hammer it in there? Yeah, yeah. And she's just,

01:27:17.440 --> 01:27:22.480
she's such, she's such trouble, you know? So her name is, her name is actually Mischief.

01:27:23.280 --> 01:27:27.360
Missy is, Missy is for short because she's just, she's trouble. She's just dumb trouble,

01:27:27.360 --> 01:27:34.240
but you can't get mad at her. She's just too cute. Brownie's probably the overall family favorite,

01:27:34.240 --> 01:27:44.480
though. I'd say, you know what? Oh man, Noodle's really great too. He's, he's weird. Weird cat.

01:27:44.480 --> 01:27:49.040
It's a weird name. It makes sense. Yeah. Like he'll like run away from me all day.

01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:54.400
And then I'll be, I'll have insomnia and I won't be able to sleep. And I'll, I'll be like

01:27:54.400 --> 01:28:00.560
up getting a snack at two in the morning. And he like will almost kill me multiple times as I'm

01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:04.640
walking down the stairs, rubbing up against my legs and just like looking up at me and like,

01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:09.280
like he'll get up on, he'll get up on his back legs and he'll like, like reach up and like,

01:28:09.280 --> 01:28:13.280
he'll like grab on to me and stuff so that I can't walk away from him. Like, bro, where's this,

01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:19.840
where's all this love like the rest of the time? Yeah, they're all really great. I love, I love

01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:24.000
cats. Anytime someone tells me they don't like cats, I basically just go, I'm sorry that you

01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:27.920
haven't met the right cat yet because they're, they're awesome. They're probably just dog people

01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:32.080
and their dog was terrorized by a cat. So they just didn't like cats. Maybe that's it. I mean,

01:28:32.080 --> 01:28:37.440
I'm a dog person too. I love dogs. They're just too much work and that's, I did, I did so much

01:28:37.440 --> 01:28:43.440
animal care as a kid that I just, I wanted low maintenance animals. Horses are just,

01:28:43.440 --> 01:28:48.400
they're so much flipped in work. Yeah. And cool though. Oh, they're, they're amazing. Oh,

01:28:48.400 --> 01:28:55.200
I love horses. Horses are, if I had to pick a favorite animal, it would probably be horses,

01:28:55.200 --> 01:29:00.320
if I'm being honest with myself. They're just, we had Arabs, particular breed of horse, not

01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:07.920
like people from certain regions of earth, like we, Arabian horses. So we had Arabs when I was

01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:12.720
growing up. Oh my God. I don't know how many people questioned that, but all right, sounds good.

01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:16.720
I'm just making sure. I mean, we had that whole incident that one time where I didn't know what

01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:21.120
a word meant and there was some ambiguity. I'm just getting out ahead of it, Luke. I'm getting

01:29:21.200 --> 01:29:29.280
out ahead of it. I'm my own Neo. I dodged my own bullets now. Anyway, we had Arabs and they have

01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:38.000
so much. It's some hard Arabs. Stop saying it. Just say horses. It's a breed of horse. Just say horse

01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:44.640
then. And they're known for being somewhat headstrong and. The Arabs. Yes. The Arab horses,

01:29:44.960 --> 01:29:53.360
Arab horses. And so all three of our horses, they were ladies and they just. So Arab ladies are

01:29:53.360 --> 01:30:01.840
headstrong. I don't know what it is. I like animals that don't give you unconditional love.

01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:10.080
Okay. Yeah, sure. Dogs almost feel too easy in a way. I love dogs too. Like our dog Buster,

01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:15.520
he would sleep in my room all the time. We were, we were like BFFs during those years.

01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:21.680
He was like the best dog we ever had. Love dogs. But in some ways, like I almost have like,

01:30:23.200 --> 01:30:28.880
I have this thing where stuff doesn't feel, I don't like the easy path.

01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:51.040
I don't like, I don't like the easy path. Okay. And I don't feel, I don't feel as

01:30:51.040 --> 01:30:58.320
deep a sense of accomplishment if I didn't work for something. And cats and horses are like that.

01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:06.400
They can be the most loving, sweet animals. They, they, they absolutely have emotions. Anyone who

01:31:06.400 --> 01:31:12.320
tells you that, you know, a dog especially doesn't feel just, I don't, I don't know how to, I don't

01:31:12.320 --> 01:31:16.480
know how to account for that. They just, they clearly not, they're clearly not looking. They're

01:31:16.480 --> 01:31:23.920
clearly not open to it. Right. And cats and horses are absolutely the same. But they just,

01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:31.760
they have that edge. They weren't domesticated grand scheme of things that long ago. And so,

01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:36.000
you know, horses, they'll just, they'll do stuff, right? They'll just like, man, they,

01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:40.560
you'd be, you'd be working, you'd be working on them, right? You'd be shoveling, you know,

01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:44.480
shoveling shit in their stall or you'd be, you know, brushing them down or you're doing whatever

01:31:44.480 --> 01:31:51.200
it is that you're doing. And they, they do this thing, they do this thing where they, they'll,

01:31:51.200 --> 01:31:58.080
they'll look away and they'll, they'll step on your foot. They, and look, they, they, unless

01:31:58.080 --> 01:32:04.480
they're really trying to hurt you, they won't step hard, but they're just, they're just letting you

01:32:04.480 --> 01:32:09.680
know. They don't, they won't break your foot unless they, unless they, they want to, they don't

01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:15.520
put all their weight on it. They just, they just let you know. They just, they let you know.

01:32:16.320 --> 01:32:22.000
One of, one of ours was, was, yeah, one of our Arabs. Her name was crazy.

01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:30.560
Actually, it was Kila, but we called her crazy because she was, okay, let me put it this way.

01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:36.080
When the vet came to artificially inseminate her, which we only had to do because she kept fighting

01:32:36.080 --> 01:32:44.720
the stallions, the vet said they put enough tranq in her to take down a rhino and she still,

01:32:45.280 --> 01:32:52.560
like it, like, like she, she was like still kicking. She was, she was, boy, did that thing

01:32:52.560 --> 01:32:57.760
ever have spirit. She, she was, what a, what an incredible horse loved her. Anyway, so I was,

01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:04.480
so I was riding her one day and another thing that horses will do is they'll, they'll test you,

01:33:04.480 --> 01:33:08.880
right? They'll test you. They want to know like who's in control here. They always want to know,

01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:12.880
they're always testing the limits. And one of the things that they'll do is they will,

01:33:12.880 --> 01:33:17.200
they'll go near trees and branches and stuff and they'll like, they'll bug you.

01:33:17.200 --> 01:33:22.080
They'll like, they'll, they'll know the entire, the path is this wide and there's a skinny sliver

01:33:22.080 --> 01:33:25.440
right over here that has a branch hanging over it. And they'll, they'll try to, they'll try to

01:33:25.440 --> 01:33:28.880
take that route just to give you a little, you know, a little branch in the face anyway.

01:33:30.080 --> 01:33:34.720
She got kind of spooked by some, some noise or some animal or some, some smell. You never know,

01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:39.600
right? They can smell things like miles away. And she kind of, she kind of got spooked and

01:33:39.680 --> 01:33:44.480
she kind of took off and then she kind of settled a little bit, but we were still going

01:33:44.480 --> 01:33:48.400
a little fast. And I was like trying to get her under control and she just, you know, was not,

01:33:48.400 --> 01:33:53.920
was not having it. And she went under a thick branch and I saw it coming and I got down and I

01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:58.720
had a helmet on, thankfully, but I got down, I got down flat on her and it still hit me like

01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:05.040
right in the head and pushed me right off the back of the horse. And she took maybe another

01:34:05.040 --> 01:34:12.480
three steps and she stopped and she looked back and you could tell in that moment she didn't mean

01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:22.320
to do that. She was like, oh, I'm sorry. Like that was, I meant to, I meant to sassia. I didn't mean

01:34:22.320 --> 01:34:27.360
to hurt you. Yeah. And so I like, I went over, I basically was like, give her the, like, you

01:34:27.360 --> 01:34:32.560
can't, you can't, okay, you can, but I wouldn't, but I gave her a little like, you know, one of these

01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:41.760
like, don't do that. She stood, got back up and it was like, okay, and gave her a little kick,

01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:47.920
okay, are we going to have a good ride here? That was probably the best behaved that she ever was.

01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:55.840
And you can't convince me, you will never convince me in a thousand years that an animal you can have

01:34:55.840 --> 01:35:01.360
that kind of a relationship with and that kind of an experience with doesn't, doesn't understand.

01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:08.880
That they're just a dumb animal. Yeah. So I, man, I love horses, even when they're, even when

01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:14.000
they're bad. There's this, I've heard this thing about how they can, they can lock their like

01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:20.080
joints and tendons so that standing uses like an incredibly low amount of energy. I didn't

01:35:20.080 --> 01:35:25.200
know that. Like a mind-blowingly low amount of energy because they're, they're prey animals

01:35:25.200 --> 01:35:30.560
realistically. Look at the eye position and stuff. Oh, they definitely are. So they, they don't want

01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:36.560
and it can take a lot to get a horse, especially if it's like laying down like on its side,

01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:41.360
it can take a lot to get it all the way up. Yeah. So they want to be able to,

01:35:41.360 --> 01:35:46.800
to just basically stand all the time. And there's this whole thing where like, you'll see,

01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:51.840
you know, if, if a horse, if you're like sitting down and a horse like lays down

01:35:52.400 --> 01:35:57.440
next year or whatever, it's actually a very high level sign of trust.

01:35:57.440 --> 01:36:02.800
Really? Because I was about to say we only had one horse that we've heard this that would lie down.

01:36:03.680 --> 01:36:10.080
And it was the full that crazy, ultimately eventually birthed. Her name was Trixie. And

01:36:11.120 --> 01:36:17.600
she would, she would lie down in the hay, not like, not like the, like the, the bedding hay,

01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:22.720
like the food hay. So the other horses would be like standing and like eating the hay and she

01:36:22.720 --> 01:36:28.160
would just be chilling in the middle of it. That was her jam, which I've never seen before. I have

01:36:28.160 --> 01:36:31.840
to assume that she like watched one of the dogs do it or something. Cause that's not horse behavior.

01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:38.320
Yeah, probably. Anyway. All right. Uh, two more topics says Dan, the producer.

01:36:39.120 --> 01:36:43.600
It's on the sign. I didn't say it. Dude, I love, I love, this is slightly off topic still, but

01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:49.120
I love when you see like animals raised by other random animals, like birds that are,

01:36:49.120 --> 01:36:54.400
like if it's a single bird and a bunch of dogs, it'll like bark at stuff. It was just like so

01:36:54.400 --> 01:36:58.880
funny. You see, you see all these like just little, like, oh, it learned that from, you know,

01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:03.760
it was alone for whatever reason, but it was around a bunch of other ones and it learned that,

01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:09.760
that habit from that other animal. That's so cool. I think it's very, very funny. Um, anyways,

01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:16.560
let's talk about turboquant. This was another contributor to potentially the rampocalypse

01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:23.600
easing at least a little bit. We hope you want to do it. Yeah. Google research published a blog

01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:30.160
post on a compression algorithm called turboquant. You know, the, uh, I'm good. Uh, the, the, the

01:37:30.160 --> 01:37:35.920
people who started this whole thing and then stopped paying attention have now released

01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:41.920
another blog post that has a lot of impact, uh, by reducing the memory footprint of the key value

01:37:41.920 --> 01:37:48.960
cache of large language models by six X with zero accuracy loss and no retraining required.

01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:54.480
That's crazy. Geez. Uh, how it works. A bunch of math over here. Feel free to skip it. Whoa.

01:37:54.480 --> 01:38:00.720
Touch on it. LLMs encode text in the form of vectors. The key value cash is a digital cheat

01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:05.200
sheet that stores these vectors. So the model doesn't have to recompute them from scratch

01:38:05.200 --> 01:38:11.360
every time it generates a new word. As a chat session progresses, the KV cash eats more and more

01:38:11.360 --> 01:38:17.840
GPU memory, which is a problem because it's storing the whole history of the entire conversation.

01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:23.120
It re, it re-reurgitates it like every time, which is why LLMs get so stupid once you have

01:38:23.120 --> 01:38:29.520
exceeded, um, you know, some reasonable amount of memory that they have allocated to your

01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:35.280
conversation. Yeah. The KV cash gets compressed over the course of a chat session, but existing

01:38:35.280 --> 01:38:40.240
compression techniques, uh, have to store extra normalization data alongside the compression

01:38:40.240 --> 01:38:47.280
values, which partially undoes said compression. Turbo quant solves this in two steps. One,

01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:54.640
polar quant. I love that. Just cold sick word paired with quant, uh, eliminates compression

01:38:54.640 --> 01:39:00.160
overhead by converting vectors into polar coordinates, encoding them with an angle and

01:39:00.160 --> 01:39:05.760
a distance instead of X and Y, which removes the need for that extra data. Okay. Oh, that's,

01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:12.240
that's so cool. Yeah. That's, that's almost like, that's almost like the end to end

01:39:12.240 --> 01:39:18.960
compression. Like, like, like obvious. If you think about it, kind of like moment from Silicon

01:39:18.960 --> 01:39:25.840
Valley, like it's, yeah, instead of storing all of this, we just store how you get there.

01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:34.720
Sure. Yeah. That's so cool. A second technique called Q J L or quantized Johnson,

01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:41.520
Lyndon Strauss, sick, uh, applies a one bit error correction to clean up any residual errors.

01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:46.080
Nice. Which apparently has no negative impact, at least they're saying up above. Uh, together,

01:39:46.080 --> 01:39:51.280
these improve compression efficiency, taking memory usage from 16 bits per number down to just

01:39:51.280 --> 01:39:57.360
three. Yeah. Damn. This compression technique effectively improves inference economics.

01:39:57.360 --> 01:40:03.760
Wow. Very fun. Uh, letting you either extend the context window or serve more users with fewer GPUs,

01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:10.320
which, uh, in both cases is save money. Um, it's important to note that turbo quant does not

01:40:10.320 --> 01:40:14.880
compress the model itself. The model stays the same size. It only compresses the information

01:40:14.880 --> 01:40:20.320
that is generated during a chat session. Google tested it across standard benchmarks using

01:40:20.320 --> 01:40:27.440
open source models, uh, Gemma, Mistral, Lama, uh, and got perfect scores on needle in haystack tests

01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:34.160
while achieving up to eight X speed up in attention computation on NVIDIA H 100 GPUs

01:40:34.160 --> 01:40:40.640
compared to uncompressed baselines. The initial market reaction was a bit of panic when this

01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:46.560
paired with the open AI, uh, actually commit. We haven't talked about that yet. Okay. So I'll

01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:50.960
talk about it a little bit later. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but that, those two things paired cause some

01:40:50.960 --> 01:40:56.880
market panic, uh, as investors started recalculating how much physical memory the AI industry actually

01:40:56.880 --> 01:41:02.480
needs within hours of Google's blog posts, memory stocks dropped, micron fell 3%. Western

01:41:02.480 --> 01:41:09.440
Digital Blast 4.7% and SanDisk dropped 5.7%. Now those two, the second two are kind of funny to

01:41:09.440 --> 01:41:14.640
me because neither of them makes RAM, but I'm sure there's a reason for this. Dude, over the pandemic,

01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:22.480
there was a, what was, Zoom? Zoom? Oh yeah. Started getting used a lot and some other

01:41:22.480 --> 01:41:27.680
stock called Zoom that wasn't the, the, the chat system went to the moon because people

01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:37.520
didn't even do enough research to make sure they were investing in the right thing. The stock market is hilarious. Um, analysts are saying that it is likely another deep seek

01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:43.360
moment referring to how the release of the, the cheaper and also open source deep seek model

01:41:43.360 --> 01:41:49.520
back in 2024, back in 2025, back in my day, uh, caused a trillion dollar market panic

01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:53.840
before anyone even realized that cheaper AI just means that more people are going to use it.

01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:59.440
SanDisk's CFO reinforced that theory when he told Bank of America analysts that he actually

01:41:59.440 --> 01:42:04.480
expects the improved efficiency to boost demand by making AI deployments more accessible.

01:42:05.120 --> 01:42:09.440
The bigger picture here is that this could be part of a shift where compression and

01:42:09.440 --> 01:42:14.640
efficiency breakthroughs may start to matter more than how big you can make your model. And that

01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:19.440
honestly does make sense to me. And techniques like turbo quant are what could get AI to run

01:42:19.440 --> 01:42:25.520
locally in a more efficient way. And this is interesting because honestly, for a huge percentage

01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:33.120
of users, it kind of can do enough for what it is right now. But anyways, so, so making it more

01:42:33.120 --> 01:42:37.840
efficient would make sense. A couple of caveats here, mostly for reference, but I'm going to say

01:42:37.840 --> 01:42:41.840
them anyways, because this is a pretty interesting topic. The underlying research is actually about

01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:49.520
a year old. The paper, the paper first appeared on Rxiv in April of 2025, but it's getting more

01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:55.600
attention now. I have its formal presentation at ICLR 2026. Later this month, Google hasn't

01:42:55.600 --> 01:43:00.160
released official code, but independent devs are already building working implementations from the

01:43:00.160 --> 01:43:06.480
paper alone. And the real thing to watch is whether major frameworks like Lamidot CCP,

01:43:06.480 --> 01:43:15.840
sorry, CPP, Olamma, or VLLM merge it in. Wow, actually like super cool, not even just for the

01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:21.840
home labors trying to run their own stuff, which is this is sick for, but also anyone trying to

01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:28.800
build the computer because dear God, hopefully RAM prices come down. And I also Rxiv is actually

01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:34.560
pronounced archive. The X is Greek. Sure. Sure. Whatever. All right. I am. Thanks.

01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:40.640
Oh man. Hear me out.

01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:49.520
Maybe we don't use this efficiency to just build even more AI, like the SanDisk guy said.

01:43:50.240 --> 01:43:56.800
I actually don't think so. Based on based on open AI shutting down Sora2 and just kind of going,

01:43:57.120 --> 01:44:06.320
yeah, forget it. Based on that pretty much every app I touch already has AI in it.

01:44:10.720 --> 01:44:14.800
Is that really the outcome that we're expecting from this? Or do we expect them to finally return

01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:19.680
to some semblance of fiscal responsibility with this build out? I don't know what to expect with

01:44:19.680 --> 01:44:24.000
any of this stuff anymore, to be honest. It's that whole like the market can stay rational

01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:28.960
longer than you can stay solid. Irrational, but yes. Yeah, sure. Am I just, is this just wishful

01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:36.000
thinking for me? Or are we actually, you know, seeing a return to sanity? I don't think we are

01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:41.440
going to fully return. No, I don't think we're going to fully return ever, but like, you know,

01:44:41.440 --> 01:44:48.880
tulips are still worth $17. They're not worthless. Considering the level of impact

01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:53.600
that this is talking about, 6x reduction paired with,

01:44:55.280 --> 01:44:59.040
and like, you know, you still need the initial VRAM to like load the freaking model because

01:44:59.040 --> 01:45:06.640
they're not making the model smaller, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but it's still a significant reduction of something. Yeah, the inference can get cheaper. That's still a good

01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:11.520
thing. Oh yeah. That paired with the Sam Altman stuff that we'll talk about shortly. Oh yeah,

01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:16.400
we can just do that now. We probably should. Those two things paired, I suspect will cause

01:45:16.480 --> 01:45:21.200
an impact. I don't think it's going to be super massive, but I do think it'll bring

01:45:21.200 --> 01:45:27.520
things down a little bit. It already has. This is a great tweet from our fellow Canadian bros

01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:32.800
over at Hardware Canucks. It's going to load eventually, but this, man, this site is slow

01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:40.560
these days. Turns out Sam Altman buying up 40% of DRAM wafers was actually him writing

01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:45.520
letters of intent. Letters he supposedly had slash has no intention of converting to actual

01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:53.840
purchases now. Memory manufacturers are just getting dumped on today. This was from March 30th,

01:45:53.840 --> 01:45:59.520
so this was earlier this week. Yeah, the problem is that hasn't stayed true. No,

01:46:01.280 --> 01:46:06.880
but there are other signals. I don't know what they were using. I don't know if he was using

01:46:06.880 --> 01:46:13.600
like Google stock, whatever, but like five days, they're up. One days, they're barely down.

01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:18.560
So they've recovered to where they were. Yeah. That's what I'm saying is like people heard this

01:46:18.560 --> 01:46:26.320
news and they went, no, all right. Back to business. I think we're going to return to,

01:46:26.320 --> 01:46:30.880
I think we're going to return to a little bit of sanity here. I think that if people can buy

01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:35.760
less hyper expensive memory, because here's something to remember too, guys. The memory is

01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:41.520
getting way more expensive for gamers in the current climate. The memory is also getting

01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:47.440
way more expensive for these giant buildouts. Yeah, I just think, I don't think turbo quant is

01:46:47.440 --> 01:46:55.520
going to make as much of an impact as people think. Six extra reduction on inference memory

01:46:55.520 --> 01:47:01.280
sounds awesome. You still got to load those models. There's still a lot else going on.

01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:06.960
Most people that I see when they're speccing out like HomeLab, I've been trying to do some

01:47:06.960 --> 01:47:11.920
research because I'd really like to have a HomeLab LLM set up thing at some point,

01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:16.560
but RAM is just freaking expensive. But most people that I see speccing out systems for that are not

01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:20.240
talking about, do you have enough memory for inference? They're talking about, do you have

01:47:20.240 --> 01:47:24.960
enough memory to load the model? So I don't know how much that's going to move the needle.

01:47:26.240 --> 01:47:30.320
I don't have a ton of experience running these myself, hence I haven't built one yet,

01:47:30.320 --> 01:47:36.000
but just looking around on the level one text forum or whatever else I've been doing,

01:47:37.200 --> 01:47:44.000
I don't see people min-maxing for that. Now, great. You know what? It sounds good,

01:47:45.200 --> 01:47:51.920
and maybe it will reduce a little bit of demand. I don't know on the data center level, but,

01:47:53.680 --> 01:47:58.960
and I think that this is why when you said earlier, like, oh, the market drop was because of this,

01:47:59.760 --> 01:48:02.960
that might even be true. I have no idea what's going on with the markets, but to me,

01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:08.880
the more real thing feels like the letters of intent being maybe not super legit from Sam

01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:13.760
Altman. Well, because he said publicly now that, yeah, that number that I kind of had planned

01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:19.040
before, it's actually going to be a lot lower from my understanding. Yeah. So that's more real to me.

01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:26.160
That's like a, okay, this part of the circle of moving money around that has been a huge part

01:48:26.160 --> 01:48:31.520
of the whole bubble around this AI stuff. And that has created pressure for everyone else to

01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:37.600
build faster than they can. Yeah. So that there isn't just like one company left standing that

01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:45.920
has all the capacity. Yeah. That is cracking a little bit. This is, this is a sign of a crack.

01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:50.240
I hope so. I hope so. And that's where I have a lot more hope. This TurboQuant thing sounds super

01:48:50.240 --> 01:48:55.680
cool on like a technical level and stuff. It sounds awesome. I don't know how much that is going to

01:48:55.760 --> 01:49:02.320
cause a reduction in demand of RAM in reality. But the Sam Altman thing is like,

01:49:03.200 --> 01:49:09.280
there was the crack that was them adding ads into their thing where they're like,

01:49:09.280 --> 01:49:13.120
this would be the last ditch thing we would ever do. And then they did it like two months later.

01:49:13.120 --> 01:49:17.520
And this is another one of those cracks where it's like, yeah, we want to buy all this RAM.

01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:23.200
And then maybe not. Maybe we don't actually need that much. And there's this like,

01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:31.360
you know, this standoff of who's going to say that they don't have the capital and the desire

01:49:31.360 --> 01:49:36.560
first. And this is OpenAI saying that maybe they don't actually have as much capital and

01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:41.760
desire as they had previously thought, which is a big statement. And there's the Oracle layoffs.

01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:46.320
And the Oracle layoffs and like all these other kind of things happening. And it's like, okay,

01:49:46.320 --> 01:49:53.760
maybe it's slowing down a little bit. What else we got today? Yeah. Oh,

01:49:54.880 --> 01:50:02.560
the Wansho channel is live. We are multi streaming. LMG clips is officially rebranded to the Wansho.

01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:10.160
This is part of the transition where Wansho is now officially co-owned 50 50 by me and Luke.

01:50:10.160 --> 01:50:18.880
And in the event that anything, you know, ever happens. This was our way of kind of

01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:24.240
safeguarding Wansho and making sure that it can just continue to exist. And part of that

01:50:24.240 --> 01:50:32.240
is having it continue to exist on a separate channel, youtube.com slash at the Wansho or

01:50:32.400 --> 01:50:39.280
excuse me at Wansho. This one right here. So we are multi streaming to this one and LTT

01:50:39.280 --> 01:50:46.080
for the time being, but over time we are going to be moving to exclusively that channel. So this is

01:50:46.080 --> 01:50:52.000
a soft, soft transition. And apparently we are actually moving forward with my hilarious plan

01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:56.960
where we're going to reduce the bit rate on the Linus Tech Tips channel slowly week over week until

01:50:56.960 --> 01:51:02.560
people kind of go, okay, all right, okay. What is that starting? I think next week, right? Dan,

01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:06.320
are you still working on the technical side of that? No, I offered to do it today. We should be

01:51:06.320 --> 01:51:12.720
good to start next week. Okay. Oh, okay. My notes say Dan is working on it. So that's why I assumed

01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:18.080
that was right. I don't know who wrote that. Cool. I have three encoders and I've set up the second

01:51:18.080 --> 01:51:26.000
one to have adjustable bit rate. Hilarious. Adjustable bit rate. Is there a way, because I

01:51:26.080 --> 01:51:29.280
don't think you can with OBS. Can you change the bit rate during the stream?

01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:39.200
No, the encoder gets locked. That would be sociopathic. Starting the show at high quality

01:51:39.200 --> 01:51:45.760
and then slowly degrading it. But I don't think so, right? I could probably do that with one of the

01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:54.240
cameras. Oh, maybe. I can't adjust the encoder once it's running. I mean away from this. This is

01:51:54.240 --> 01:51:59.440
next level. This is just curiosity, really. I'm not actually like suggesting filters on this.

01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:05.040
For me, if I screw up the bit rate on a stream that I start, I have to end the stream to change it.

01:52:05.040 --> 01:52:10.000
That's my level of... Got it. So I'm like, whoa. I mean, that's not going to work. That's just a

01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:16.160
filter though. Yeah, that's just blur. You could tell that was just blur. Yeah. All right. Dan's

01:52:16.160 --> 01:52:23.040
focused. Low bit rate feels kind of unique. I don't know. I wonder if we could data mosh live.

01:52:23.040 --> 01:52:27.520
That would be kind of fun. I'm going to try that. We don't really move around enough, but

01:52:27.520 --> 01:52:32.400
yeah, you know, if you guys do this. You're Fetty Cannon. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That would work.

01:52:32.400 --> 01:52:36.240
All right. All right. All right. All right. We're supposed to do the flow plane announcement

01:52:36.240 --> 01:52:43.600
for this week. Yeah. We've had 88 weeks of documentation showcasing why WAN was late.

01:52:44.400 --> 01:52:47.440
Has why WAN late been running for over a year?

01:52:49.200 --> 01:52:56.240
Oh, I guess. And although episode 21 is out, Linus still hasn't done a punishment

01:52:56.240 --> 01:53:01.840
for being the most late last season. Oh. If you have a suggestion for what Linus should

01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:10.640
have to do on the WAN Show as his punishment, let us know in the comments on that most recent

01:53:10.640 --> 01:53:21.280
episode. Oh, I see. So it's over on Floatplane. Here it is. Linus showcases his Linux issues.

01:53:21.280 --> 01:53:29.440
Why is WAN late episode 21? Okay. All right. Good. Thank you, Sammy, for that very innovative

01:53:29.440 --> 01:53:36.880
engagement idea. I guess I have to do the thing. Anyway, while you're over there checking it out

01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:47.760
at LMG.GG slash Floatplane, we also have some extras for you. Oh, cool. This is great.

01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:55.360
Early access. He needs a NAS. This is really funny. It's actually in the intro of the video,

01:53:55.360 --> 01:54:01.440
but Pluf goes, have you noticed that in all the years I've worked here, I have never done

01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:10.000
anything with storage or networking. I was like, oh, yeah. No, I did not notice that. But yes,

01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:15.200
now that you say it. So it's just because it wasn't an area of expertise for him.

01:54:15.200 --> 01:54:21.760
And as part of rectifying that and also solving some just data management issues and also because

01:54:21.760 --> 01:54:25.280
that man just cannot help himself. A new hobby shows up and he's like, oh, yay, new hobby.

01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:30.160
He built himself a NAS. It's a really good video. His timing is terrible.

01:54:30.720 --> 01:54:37.680
But as you well know, but he had a really good time doing it and it's a really good video.

01:54:37.680 --> 01:54:44.240
That's cool. We also are finally releasing this. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's...

01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:51.040
Hold on. I'm just going to change this title a little bit. Talking about us being slow.

01:54:52.000 --> 01:55:06.800
Look, there was a lot of moving pieces on this one. Adam went all the way to NASA to find out how far away a panel has to be from a fan before it

01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:13.360
impacts the performance. It's a pretty cool video with some like... I've been waiting to see it for

01:55:13.360 --> 01:55:19.840
so long. Next level real science. It was filmed so long ago that it talks about the Artemis missions

01:55:19.840 --> 01:55:27.200
in the future tense. Which I guess... Oh, that's up early access over on Floatplane.

01:55:27.200 --> 01:55:32.880
Don't yet because I want to show something fun. Some people haven't noticed that Floatplane also

01:55:32.880 --> 01:55:38.880
joined in on the festivities of April 1st. So we added loot boxes in the top right hand corner.

01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:44.080
You can see up here, there's a little loot box icon and it's pretty innocent. This is all it does.

01:55:44.080 --> 01:55:51.520
You click it, it does a little animation, and then it pops open and you get served a random

01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:58.720
video that you have access to. Wow. They added a Linus hole to this. That's because I got a prototype.

01:55:58.720 --> 01:56:06.480
What a pull. I got a prototype of this. That's a rare Pokemon card right there.

01:56:06.800 --> 01:56:13.680
But yeah, it's kind of fun. So maybe check it out and click the loot box.

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told me that they made it a limited edition in the first place was that they had concerns about

01:57:33.760 --> 01:57:40.800
the durability of it. Yeah. So when I saw her MacBook, I was really impressed with how good it

01:57:40.800 --> 01:57:49.280
still looked. And that sort of aligns with Dbrand's decision to bring it back. It ended up being,

01:57:50.240 --> 01:57:55.440
in my opinion, this is my opinion now, not Dbrand, it ended up being, in my opinion,

01:57:55.440 --> 01:58:01.440
a better lasting look than I expected. It's pretty cool. I'm wondering if you can...

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Yeah. Dude, my like, gape mouth at the beginning was because that looks amazing.

01:58:08.400 --> 01:58:14.480
Well, yeah. A green Xbox? A green textured Xbox looks awesome. I'm kind of a bit of a

01:58:14.480 --> 01:58:18.400
hater of the Xbox. Just a black rectangle is very boring, but...

01:58:19.280 --> 01:58:22.960
That's sick. Yeah. The touch grass thing. I also think it could be kind of fun,

01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:30.320
if I can scroll past this, to try to match up some of the blue sky and touch grass. I don't know.

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I don't know if you can do a mixture thing when you're checking out,

01:58:34.080 --> 01:58:40.960
but if you could make Windows XP background bliss style, that'd be kind of sweet, actually.

01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:48.080
I do wonder. I do wonder how Dbrand would do just like selling bulk skin of their skins.

01:58:49.920 --> 01:58:54.640
I feel like I'd probably buy some touch grass. Yeah. If you could just buy like a two foot by

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two foot sheet or a one by two or something like that. I don't know if they've considered it.

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Legitimately, this is not a conversation I've had with anybody over there, but...

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And the little clip he says it as well. Oh, adorable.

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So I am genuinely interested to see if someone can make a bliss-style build

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a combination of both. They were way ahead of you. Yeah, that's cool. Classic D-brand. Yeah, that's sweet.

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so email sent to it will still reach your inbox. That's pretty based.

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That is awesome, especially if you have like some ancient, you know...

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What's your most embarrassing email alias?

02:01:09.200 --> 02:01:13.520
Well, I don't have it anymore. Yeah, yeah. LadiesBoy54 at hotmail.com.

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Sorry, was that ladies or lady? Ladies.

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You sure it wasn't lady boy? I'm just wondering. No, this was ladies. It was ladies boy.

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I was like, I think this would have been like literally like grade five or something.

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Early bloomer. Wow. Okay. Oh yeah. I was ready to go.

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Ladies boy. Alright. Nice. Yeah.

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Yeah, I've talked about mine before, but mine's probably MooMooTheCow at hotmail.com.

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That was not. And it had underscores too, so whenever I had to like give it to...

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Whenever I had to say it, I just felt like such an idiot.

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Yeah, it's MooMooUnderscoreTheUnderscoreCow.

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And this is in the early days of email, so occasionally people would start writing the

02:01:59.200 --> 02:02:04.320
word underscore because like they didn't know what it was and stuff. It was not good times.

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I'm really glad that I moved on from that. But my later hotmail actually is not,

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not much better. It's whatever. It was the underscore peanuts underscore gallery

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at hotmail.com. So long. Yeah, it was really long. Thank you. It's the first time anyone's ever said that to me.

02:02:22.080 --> 02:02:28.400
Yeah. But it's very funny at least because like the peanut gallery is like, you know, the

02:02:29.840 --> 02:02:34.880
scrub like riff raff, you know, throwing the peanuts or whatever. That's my understanding

02:02:34.880 --> 02:02:40.400
of it anyway. And so I was just like, yeah, you know, I'm a, you know, I'm a riff raff,

02:02:41.200 --> 02:02:46.400
you know, troublemaker. But then I changed it to peanuts because my name is Linus.

02:02:50.480 --> 02:02:57.440
Anyway, yeah, I don't use that anymore either. I think I'll just have to keep my work email forever

02:02:58.320 --> 02:03:04.480
at this point. Everything is tied to it. So I'll just keep that domain forever, maybe.

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I've done pretty good at keeping separation of church and state.

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Yeah, you should. I had so much stuff in my NCIX email that I like really shouldn't have.

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And that was a problem. I think I also had a bit of a shock

02:03:20.560 --> 02:03:29.120
because of losing the Floatplane club stuff. And then it was like, ah, I need to remember

02:03:29.120 --> 02:03:34.560
that these things are like. Right. We used to use floatplaneclub.com instead of Floatplane.com.

02:03:34.640 --> 02:03:39.040
Yeah. I actually forget the whole story of getting the Floatplane domain. Well,

02:03:39.040 --> 02:03:42.560
I'd have to go back and watch the WAN Show to know the story again.

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My good documentation for it is gone because it was in the drive of Floatplane club.

02:03:50.080 --> 02:03:56.880
But I know most of the steps that happened. I know we flew down in person.

02:03:56.880 --> 02:04:02.240
You did. Yeah. Oh, sorry, I did. I know that I had knocked on a literal actual door to get in

02:04:02.240 --> 02:04:06.320
touch with the guy, which will never not be an amazing story. Yeah.

02:04:07.120 --> 02:04:12.880
I'm like, I'm pretty confident on the details, but I know that we have said the story on a

02:04:12.880 --> 02:04:17.280
previous WAN Show. So someone's probably got a link to that. We just have to find it.

02:04:17.280 --> 02:04:24.000
And it was, it was, it was Stone Mason. Someone said he was a Mormon, I think it was Stone Masons.

02:04:25.840 --> 02:04:30.800
It's a, it's a wild story to be honest. But yeah, I don't want to do it

02:04:30.800 --> 02:04:36.000
injustice by saying it wrong. Want some more good news? Yes. It's good news WAN.

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Yes. Spotify is adding an exclusive mode audio file feature for Windows PCs.

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This gives premium subscribers bit perfect audio playback up to 24 bit 400, 44.1 kilohertz

02:04:49.680 --> 02:04:58.480
flak. So like just actually imperceptible from like perfect quality. Yeah. This bypasses Windows

02:04:58.480 --> 02:05:03.920
audio mixer and hands Spotify full control of the audio chain. This means that while exclusive

02:05:03.920 --> 02:05:08.160
mode is on, no other apps can play audio through the same device, which is probably fine, and

02:05:08.160 --> 02:05:12.480
features like auto mix and cross fade need to be turned off to actually achieve bit perfect output.

02:05:13.040 --> 02:05:18.160
But hey, that's really cool. That's really cool. That's sweet. I mean, they only recently added

02:05:18.160 --> 02:05:22.800
lossless streaming last September, years behind title, Apple music and Amazon music. And now

02:05:22.800 --> 02:05:27.360
they're taking it a step further. So if you're out of Windows workstation and you want to just jam

02:05:27.360 --> 02:05:33.600
out to your Spotify tunes, you can get bit perfect quality. That is so, that is so cool. But our

02:05:33.600 --> 02:05:39.600
discussion question is, Hey, title has had exclusive mode for years and still hasn't beaten Spotify

02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:46.560
or even approached it in terms of market share. Like what is up with that? Nobody cares.

02:05:50.320 --> 02:05:56.560
But Spotify has you have, you have one man that you have worked with multiple times in the past

02:05:56.560 --> 02:06:02.560
who would disagree. Yep. Yep. Gentlemen. I am using nobody in a

02:06:04.960 --> 02:06:15.280
fairly excessive way. Yeah. The market masses don't care. No, I'm not wrong. And it's unfortunate,

02:06:15.280 --> 02:06:19.440
but we also have learned that with video quality and lots of other things as well.

02:06:19.440 --> 02:06:22.800
They'll think it's neat, but if they have to pay for it, it makes no difference. And

02:06:23.520 --> 02:06:28.960
and they would rather pay for other things. That's fair. That's fair. But you know what? Hey,

02:06:28.960 --> 02:06:33.760
competition makes more features for more people. And that's something that I can always get behind.

02:06:33.760 --> 02:06:37.360
And also just hard mid pandemic. I don't have anyone who can cut my hair.

02:06:38.880 --> 02:06:45.760
The WAN Show by our domain was crazy. That you could have cut. I was taking the

02:06:45.760 --> 02:06:49.760
opportunity to try to grow it out. It just didn't work. I mean, it worked. It grew out.

02:06:50.160 --> 02:06:51.920
Yeah, success. It was educational.

02:06:55.280 --> 02:06:59.200
But yeah, apparently that clip. So there's a clip from back then that's like 11 and a half

02:06:59.200 --> 02:07:03.120
minutes long where we talk about it. So if you want the accurate, actually quite fun story,

02:07:03.120 --> 02:07:08.240
maybe go check that out. All right, let's do it. Let's do it. I know you've been waiting the whole

02:07:08.240 --> 02:07:13.360
time. Artemis two is on route to the moon. Let's do it. Let's do it. That's your topic. Hit it.

02:07:13.920 --> 02:07:19.200
Oh, okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on before we start. Yes. Did you see the shot out the window of the

02:07:19.200 --> 02:07:26.960
plane? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Super cool. That is a picture for the freaking ages. What a picture.

02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:34.480
What a photograph. What a moment. Yeah. Like what was it 1973 was the last time? It sounds

02:07:34.480 --> 02:07:41.440
right. 72, 73, somewhere in there. 70s. Yeah. Like that was one of the things I asked when we

02:07:43.360 --> 02:08:00.240
were on the moon. Yeah. Okay. So when you got that tour for me at NASA, that was one of the

02:08:00.240 --> 02:08:06.000
things that I like pulled the guy aside and was like, Hey, you probably get this question all the

02:08:06.000 --> 02:08:12.800
time. But like, literally the smartwatch on my hand is more powerful than all the computers

02:08:12.800 --> 02:08:20.640
involved in the Apollo lunar landing missions combined. What's the dealio? How is it so hard

02:08:20.640 --> 02:08:26.960
to go back? And he was talking completely, you know, just off the record, conversationally,

02:08:26.960 --> 02:08:33.440
this is not official NASA, whatever. So just take it for what it is one non tour guide who

02:08:33.440 --> 02:08:38.640
was just having a conversation. And basically he's just like, Well, you gotta, you gotta understand

02:08:38.640 --> 02:08:46.640
that like, the entire resources function fundamentally of the United States federal

02:08:46.640 --> 02:08:54.800
government wanted to say, you to the commies and get there first. The kind of resources that NASA

02:08:54.800 --> 02:09:02.400
had at its disposal at that time was was literally civilization changing, right? That's one. Number

02:09:02.400 --> 02:09:10.160
two is priorities, you know, low Earth orbit or just Earth orbit in general has been more

02:09:10.160 --> 02:09:14.880
economically interesting. It's been where the focus is. That's where the ISS is. That's where

02:09:14.880 --> 02:09:20.960
we've been. That's where we've been working. A lot of the work that you can do in space, you do not

02:09:20.960 --> 02:09:28.080
need to go to the moon for the moon is like really far. Okay, so that's two. And then number three

02:09:28.080 --> 02:09:39.040
was the longer it went, the more harder it became because people would retire out or die out who

02:09:39.040 --> 02:09:43.520
knew how to do it. It's as far as my understanding goes, a pretty significant amount of it because

02:09:43.520 --> 02:09:50.320
of the focus being on Leo for so long has been similar to something like making like advanced

02:09:50.320 --> 02:09:56.560
CRTs or or those machines that you guys used for, well, not you, but you contributed towards

02:09:58.080 --> 02:10:05.840
restoring reboot. Oh, those tape decks. Yeah, it's like the the expertise is is retired out or

02:10:05.840 --> 02:10:09.760
passed away or onto something else or whatever. The spare parts, nobody makes them. The money's

02:10:09.760 --> 02:10:15.760
not there anymore. And the and things aren't getting cheaper to make. No, not really. Like,

02:10:15.760 --> 02:10:19.600
I don't think you could build a Saturn V rocket today for cheaper than you could have built it

02:10:19.600 --> 02:10:24.480
back then. Realistically, there are some things scale and that level of one off and those types

02:10:24.480 --> 02:10:30.880
of things like like mass production is making things a lot cheaper. But yeah, crazy. And there's

02:10:30.880 --> 02:10:35.280
there are other options like there's, you know, some of the SpaceX stuff could get us there and

02:10:35.280 --> 02:10:41.040
stuff, but they're commercial. And there there's arguments that could be made that we should use

02:10:41.040 --> 02:10:44.400
them for this trip and whatever and blah, blah, blah. And personally, I don't care about any of

02:10:44.400 --> 02:10:48.320
that. I'm just freaking stoked. All right, back to the moon. Tell us about it. April 1st, crazy

02:10:48.320 --> 02:10:52.080
day to choose. NASA launched the Artemis. No one's going to believe it.

02:10:54.320 --> 02:11:01.200
The first crewed mission since Apollo Apollo 17 in 1972. It's a crewed mission to the moon.

02:11:01.200 --> 02:11:07.520
No, we're not landing, but still it's the first time humans have headed there in general in

02:11:07.520 --> 02:11:14.240
over 50 years, which is crazy. The final engine firing a trans lunar injection burn happened

02:11:14.240 --> 02:11:21.120
Thursday at 749 p.m. Eastern time, fully committing to the 10 day mission by propelling the Orion

02:11:21.120 --> 02:11:27.120
spacecraft out of Earth's orbit towards the moon. This final burn could have been called off if

02:11:27.120 --> 02:11:31.680
engineers were concerned about the spacecraft systems resulting in a continued orbit around

02:11:31.680 --> 02:11:37.520
Earth until the landing route was plotted, but it wasn't, which is freaking awesome. After the

02:11:37.520 --> 02:11:43.520
mission launched, mission commander Reed Wiseman reported that he was having issues with Microsoft

02:11:44.480 --> 02:11:48.320
Outlook. Here comes a quote. Here comes a quote. I love it. Go for it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

02:11:48.960 --> 02:11:53.520
I also see that I have two Microsoft outlooks and neither one of these are working.

02:11:53.520 --> 02:11:57.840
If you want to remote it and check Artemis and those two outlooks, that'll be awesome.

02:11:57.840 --> 02:12:02.720
Wiseman said on live stream, mission control had to remote in to fix the issue with his computer.

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Microsoft hasn't commented as of writing, which is hilarious. And then we have the

02:12:08.480 --> 02:12:15.120
actual audio if we want to listen to that. Yeah. Hold on. No, I think I have it. I think I have it.

02:12:19.280 --> 02:12:20.160
Yeah, I'm pulling it up.

02:12:24.720 --> 02:12:25.280
Here it is.

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Hold on. We just got to skip. We just got to skip. Hold on. Where is it?

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Yeah, I forget exactly where it is, but it's somewhere in here.

02:12:41.680 --> 02:12:44.960
Yeah. There's, there's been a lot of, I don't know, it's just so

02:12:45.680 --> 02:12:52.080
energizing. I was talking to a good friend that works over at NASA and I was saying like,

02:12:52.080 --> 02:12:57.840
you know, there's a lot of bad things going on in like the world right now, but it's oddly

02:12:57.840 --> 02:13:03.120
uplifting that we're going back to the moon. Like something about that is just so cool.

02:13:04.720 --> 02:13:05.200
Okay.

02:13:09.440 --> 02:13:14.240
There it is. But yeah, I'm pretty sure that, I'm pretty sure that's, that's Canon now.

02:13:14.240 --> 02:13:18.400
It's great. And like there's, there's also this, this show that I've never seen or heard of before,

02:13:18.400 --> 02:13:20.960
but there's this really cool quote from it that is like.

02:13:22.080 --> 02:13:31.920
I know there's no sound. You don't need the sound to know what he's saying. The lessons of Icarus isn't that we need to not fly so close to the sun. The lesson of Icarus

02:13:31.920 --> 02:13:36.880
should be that we need to build better wings. And I'm just like, that is just such a cool

02:13:36.880 --> 02:13:41.120
quote. I don't know the show. Somebody probably knows. I don't watch that much TV shows, but

02:13:41.120 --> 02:13:47.920
solid. I got linked like that clip. And I was like, man, that's freaking sick. It's just so,

02:13:47.920 --> 02:13:48.720
it feels like

02:13:51.520 --> 02:13:56.480
good human progress again. The AI stuff has so much ick with it.

02:13:57.040 --> 02:14:04.240
But like going and being amongst the stars again is just so cool. And like progressing towards

02:14:04.240 --> 02:14:09.600
this idea of having a moon base is awesome because that's really fun. I'm going to mourn the ISS,

02:14:09.600 --> 02:14:13.200
but it's cool that we're doing something else. And it's just, it's just,

02:14:15.120 --> 02:14:22.160
are you low key kind of excited that there's a Canadian on board? Oh yeah, absolutely. And he's awesome. And all the interviews with him are super cool.

02:14:22.880 --> 02:14:28.000
I'm happy he's a part of it. It's really cool that Canada is able to participate in stuff that

02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:34.160
NASA does. It's nice to see during a time of somewhat frigid relations. Which has been such

02:14:34.160 --> 02:14:39.360
an amazing thing about the ISS the whole time. That Canada and the US are, you know, doing this

02:14:39.360 --> 02:14:45.760
together. It's kind of weird that before it was a really cool thing that existed during

02:14:45.760 --> 02:14:51.360
rough relations between the US and Russia. And now space travel stuff is a really cool thing to

02:14:51.360 --> 02:14:58.320
have during tense relations between the US and Canada. It's like this space stuff just tends to

02:14:59.120 --> 02:15:04.320
bring people together, which I think is just so cool. And there's all these quotes of astronauts

02:15:04.320 --> 02:15:10.480
going into space and then looking back at Earth and feeling like our petty little squabbles

02:15:10.480 --> 02:15:14.320
are not things that we should worry about. And we should be focused on other things because of

02:15:14.320 --> 02:15:21.760
this tiny little pale blue dot. And I just, ah, it's so cool. Dark guy too has a really good

02:15:21.760 --> 02:15:26.640
message in Floatplane chat says, I think a lot of people just assume that human knowledge is

02:15:26.640 --> 02:15:33.040
magically cumulative. Once something's learned, just it's been learned forever. But maintaining

02:15:33.040 --> 02:15:37.520
knowledge takes actual effort and tons of stuff has been forgotten. And I think that's a really

02:15:37.520 --> 02:15:44.880
important message right now that is being felt very strongly by anyone who still remembers

02:15:44.880 --> 02:15:56.160
the events of the early to mid 1940s. We really, we really as a species do not have a species wide

02:15:56.160 --> 02:16:05.440
memory and it really does take work to remember things. I'm so, I'm so glad to just see people

02:16:05.440 --> 02:16:11.520
working together to do something really cool. And it's just, it's exciting. I like, I haven't

02:16:11.520 --> 02:16:21.040
been able to stop just looking at the news about it. It's just exciting and fun and cool and ludicrously

02:16:21.040 --> 02:16:28.080
expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I don't know, in like, in like, in like a lost porn kind of way,

02:16:28.080 --> 02:16:34.080
it's, it's kind of fun to watch any in that way as well. I had, sorry, I've been struggling on

02:16:34.080 --> 02:16:37.120
whether or not I should address this one, but there's a comment in Floatplane Chat,

02:16:37.840 --> 02:16:42.640
insist saying getting to the moon is not getting amongst the stars. On the scale of the nearest

02:16:42.640 --> 02:16:48.320
star, you essentially haven't left the earth, except you have like the distance between one and a

02:16:48.320 --> 02:16:53.280
million. And what I think is a billion is basically a billion is what they're saying. Yeah, the earth

02:16:53.280 --> 02:16:59.200
is amongst the stars. So that's fun. But I am considering basically going to outer space at

02:16:59.440 --> 02:17:04.640
all, every time watching any launch that goes into outer space, whether it's low orbit or not,

02:17:04.640 --> 02:17:12.480
I think is cool and exciting. And this is a form of progress. And there's, there's theory that a base

02:17:12.480 --> 02:17:16.400
on the moon could help us get towards Mars and all this other kind of stuff. And we're actually like

02:17:16.400 --> 02:17:23.360
doing stuff again. Space progress felt very stagnant for a long time. And SpaceX, in a lot of ways,

02:17:23.440 --> 02:17:29.440
really sparked it again, which has been really awesome. And this feels like a really cool step

02:17:29.440 --> 02:17:34.720
forward. And NASA actually really doing stuff again, which I think is really cool. Because I

02:17:34.720 --> 02:17:39.200
don't personally love the idea of it all becoming privatized. I think they're being both is really

02:17:39.200 --> 02:17:42.640
good. That's where I'm currently at. I don't know. I'm sure other people have opinions, but

02:17:43.280 --> 02:17:48.880
yeah, it's cool. I'm very, very happy with all this. I'm happy it's so far going really well.

02:17:49.840 --> 02:17:55.280
Hey, you want to know what else is going better than ever before? Gary's Mod creator, Gary Newman,

02:17:55.280 --> 02:18:00.960
has partnered with Valve to ensure that user created content built in Sandbox, the upcoming

02:18:00.960 --> 02:18:07.440
successor to Gary's Mod, can be sold royalty free. Yeah, that's cool. That's super cool. I was never

02:18:07.440 --> 02:18:12.480
a big Gary's Mod guy. I played, what's it called, hide and seek, like once, is that that's where

02:18:12.480 --> 02:18:16.560
you're like objects or something like that. And you disguise yourself as like a tin can and you go

02:18:16.640 --> 02:18:19.120
around and then they'll have to try and find you. Is that called hide and seek?

02:18:20.400 --> 02:18:26.320
Prop hunt. That's the one. So I played prop hunt like once on like a stream with someone or something,

02:18:26.320 --> 02:18:33.120
I think. So I was never a big Gary's Mod guy, but obviously I'm an enjoyer of the silly videos and

02:18:33.120 --> 02:18:38.880
shenanigans that come out of Gary's Mod. So this is super cool. It's always nice to see Valve do

02:18:38.880 --> 02:18:43.840
based things. They don't do everything right, but they do seem to sort of generally try to do

02:18:43.840 --> 02:18:50.000
cool stuff for the most part and I love to see it. Oh, I'm supposed to do a couple more sponsors

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Wow, good news, Wansho, multiple Steam topics. Valve is making changes to how it's handling

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regional pricing after users complained about regional, about pricing being 20 to 30% more

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expensive in certain regions. Steam's new regional pricing tool has a more up-to-date data for exchange

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rates and purchasing power across 37 currencies in four regions. Developers can either automatically

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adjust their pricing via exchange rate, purchasing power, or multivariable conversion. And Valve

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has said that this most closely matches the method that was previously presented in the

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pricing tool. That's the multivariable conversion thing. Publishers can still manually set pricing

02:21:45.040 --> 02:21:50.640
if they want to. But yeah, that's cool. Our discussion question is that Canada is often

02:21:50.640 --> 02:21:59.040
lumped in with the US as an economic region. So that's why forever LTT has talked about pricing

02:21:59.040 --> 02:22:03.520
in terms of US dollars for the products that we're talking about, whether it's phone or laptop or

02:22:03.520 --> 02:22:10.080
whatever, because Canadian pricing is not Canadian pricing. It's just US pricing times the Canadian

02:22:10.080 --> 02:22:15.600
dollar exchange rate for the most part. There are exceptions. But our question is,

02:22:15.600 --> 02:22:19.680
is there such a difference in purchasing power that Canadians should receive different pricing?

02:22:21.600 --> 02:22:26.560
I actually kind of think so. It's complicated. Has it always historically been so?

02:22:26.560 --> 02:22:33.680
And our incomes tend to be lower, but our healthcare costs, such as they are, when they come

02:22:33.680 --> 02:22:39.520
up, generally tend to be lower as well. Our gas prices are higher. It's been funny watching

02:22:39.520 --> 02:22:45.840
Americans freak out about big gas prices. It's just like, first time. Yeah, welcome.

02:22:46.160 --> 02:22:54.880
Yeah. And then meanwhile, ours are even worse. Yeah, like, dairy's more expensive. There's a lot

02:22:54.880 --> 02:23:01.040
of stuff that's just plain more expensive, like cheese. Cheese is so cheap in America. You guys

02:23:01.040 --> 02:23:11.040
have no idea how good you have it. God, I love cheese. Yeah, games though. Is our purchasing

02:23:11.040 --> 02:23:19.280
power lower enough that we should have probably not? Maybe yes? I don't know. It's tough because

02:23:19.280 --> 02:23:24.480
any perspective that we have is going to be skewed by our upbringing, especially our specific region.

02:23:24.480 --> 02:23:28.720
It's also very self-serving to say yes. Yeah. I mean, yeah, sure. Yeah. So I'm trying to

02:23:30.000 --> 02:23:34.960
be realistic. And I don't know how much, like, I think the average Canadian has less purchasing

02:23:34.960 --> 02:23:41.600
power than the average American. That would be a guess. That feels true. After all though,

02:23:41.600 --> 02:23:46.880
everything comes out of the wash, I feel like that's probably true. But what about median?

02:23:48.240 --> 02:23:53.360
Yeah, I don't know. No idea. Average, I probably, I don't actually know. It's also just so different.

02:23:55.200 --> 02:23:58.400
Like, it's actually very, very different being somewhere with

02:23:58.400 --> 02:24:02.640
socialized Medicare versus being somewhere without. Yeah, it really depends. It depends.

02:24:02.640 --> 02:24:07.360
Do you have a preexisting condition? If you do, you're probably way better off up here,

02:24:07.360 --> 02:24:12.560
like way better off up here. Or it depends on your employer too. Like a lot of states have

02:24:12.560 --> 02:24:18.000
what's called at-will employment, which blew me away the first time I heard of it. It pretty much

02:24:18.000 --> 02:24:22.080
means that unless you're like specifically a protected class and you can make a solid argument

02:24:22.080 --> 02:24:26.080
that you were discriminated against in a way that infringes on your personal rights,

02:24:26.960 --> 02:24:30.560
your employer can basically just be like, don't bother coming in tomorrow.

02:24:31.440 --> 02:24:39.280
Which is like wild to think about in like a modern country. But that's like,

02:24:40.320 --> 02:24:47.120
someone says at-will is for all states? I hadn't heard that. I don't, I'm pretty sure that's not

02:24:47.120 --> 02:24:52.480
true. Montana is the exception. Okay, well I don't type in all the caps, all states then. It's not

02:24:52.480 --> 02:25:00.240
all states. Montana is a state for crying out loud, you guys. I was technically correct,

02:25:00.240 --> 02:25:07.600
which we all know is the best kind of correct. Yeah, anyway, so that like blew me away. And it's,

02:25:07.600 --> 02:25:12.720
that's really horrible. And then it compounds when you consider that your employer a lot of the time

02:25:12.720 --> 02:25:20.400
is tied to like being able to get health care there. Here it's not much. I'm just looking into

02:25:20.400 --> 02:25:29.200
things. So like, oh man, employment at-will applies only during six month probationary period is like

02:25:29.200 --> 02:25:36.080
a few different states. Yep. State has public policy exemptions. Good faith applies. Like there's,

02:25:36.080 --> 02:25:43.760
it's in classic American style. Every single one of them is a fun, unique little snowflake

02:25:43.760 --> 02:25:48.160
of their own rules. Dude, when we were figuring out taxation rules back when we were starting

02:25:48.160 --> 02:25:53.680
up Floatplane. It's absurd. It sometimes down to a county level. Yeah. It would work differently.

02:25:53.680 --> 02:25:58.560
And we're kind of sitting here going, well, this is impossible. Surely there must be a service that

02:25:58.560 --> 02:26:04.560
just does all this for you. It's really kind of cool in some ways and just horrible in other ones.

02:26:07.120 --> 02:26:10.480
Yeah. As per usual, there's upsides and downsides to basically everything.

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I'm not talking about at-will, to be clear. I'm talking about just the states, all the states

02:26:16.480 --> 02:26:22.160
being so different. That's wild, man. Yeah. Like, and there's so many ways to manipulate it,

02:26:22.720 --> 02:26:28.720
like the whole Vancouver, Washington thing. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, I talked about this a lot

02:26:28.720 --> 02:26:32.480
back when we were starting up because I was like, the biggest hack seems to be to just live in the

02:26:32.480 --> 02:26:38.480
other Vancouver because Washington had no income tax of any sort at the time. I think they still

02:26:38.480 --> 02:26:42.880
don't. I have no idea. And then Vancouver, Vancouver, Washington is right on the border

02:26:42.880 --> 02:26:46.720
with Oregon. So a lot of people who live in Vancouver, Washington, from my understanding,

02:26:46.720 --> 02:26:52.640
would go shop for groceries and essentials and cars and just like anything down in Oregon state

02:26:52.640 --> 02:26:57.040
where they have income tax but no sales tax. So you would get the best of both worlds.

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No income tax and no sales tax when you go to buy stuff. Which is just wild. That's so crazy.

02:27:06.320 --> 02:27:13.200
And again, I mean, that's like an upside to you as an individual. But as Boom just said,

02:27:13.440 --> 02:27:18.720
legal tax evasion, which is like potentially bad for the collective, but then it depends because

02:27:18.720 --> 02:27:23.920
what is the collective actually spending their money on? More bombs, I guess. Crystal says,

02:27:23.920 --> 02:27:29.680
oh yeah, we're at 6% in Cedar Rapids and then Iowa City 40 minutes away is 7%.

02:27:30.800 --> 02:27:34.960
Just, sure. Yeah, that's wonderful.

02:27:35.280 --> 02:27:36.160
That's wonderful.

02:27:39.200 --> 02:27:47.520
Who knows? Oh man. I know multiple online platforms who have looked at taxation in the states

02:27:47.520 --> 02:27:52.000
and just been like, well, this is basically impossible to solve. We'll just wait until

02:27:52.000 --> 02:27:57.840
we get in trouble for it. And there are companies who their entire premise is we will help you

02:27:57.840 --> 02:28:02.320
deal with taxation in the states. They get it wrong so much. Who can't handle it. They get it wrong

02:28:03.200 --> 02:28:08.960
all the time. It's their whole job. Serious problems for us over the years because we actually

02:28:08.960 --> 02:28:14.800
try to do things properly. It is, oh man. Can you Avalar and cry? Avalar isn't perfect either.

02:28:14.800 --> 02:28:24.720
Oh yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Oh yeah. Avalar gets it right every time. Sure. Sure, buddy.

02:28:24.800 --> 02:28:33.520
Wild man. Yeah. Fun times. Yeah, I've learned this lesson so hard,

02:28:33.520 --> 02:28:39.360
so bent over, so pants down. Like it's not, yeah, no, no, it's not perfect.

02:28:39.360 --> 02:28:43.760
Yeah, blow butane just said my state has 80 counties and technically every county is a

02:28:43.760 --> 02:28:52.240
separate tax district. And then you have to scale that across all the states and then be on top

02:28:52.320 --> 02:29:01.280
of what every single one of us is doing. And it changes. Oh man. So cool. Very good.

02:29:05.840 --> 02:29:13.120
Sick, dude. 3,143 counties. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize Dan's mic wasn't open, I guess.

02:29:13.120 --> 02:29:21.200
Yeah, sorry. That's what I was reacting to. All right. Hey, but in other good news,

02:29:22.320 --> 02:29:29.680
Neuralink patient plays World of Warcraft with his thoughts. Wow. That's right. Neuralink

02:29:29.680 --> 02:29:35.840
continues to improve. We now have a patient playing World of Warcraft using only his mind.

02:29:36.560 --> 02:29:42.720
John L. Noble is a veteran who was paralyzed from the shoulders down in 2016. In 2016 is the 18th

02:29:42.720 --> 02:29:48.640
patient to receive the Neuralink N1 implant. After receiving the implant in December of 2025,

02:29:48.640 --> 02:29:54.240
Noble has been practicing using a MacBook where using it with second nature after just

02:29:54.240 --> 02:30:01.680
three weeks of practice. Whoa. By day 80, he decided to try playing. Wow. He says he is

02:30:01.680 --> 02:30:11.440
raiding and exploring Azeroth hands-free, full speed, no mouse, no keyboard, just in tension.

02:30:13.360 --> 02:30:18.480
And what's crazy about that is like, I've got the video up here. What's crazy about that is like,

02:30:18.480 --> 02:30:21.920
you can see at the bottom of his screen here, for people who haven't played before,

02:30:21.920 --> 02:30:28.000
all these little tiles, those are different like skills and abilities. So he's using all these

02:30:28.000 --> 02:30:32.240
different things. It seems like you can see his mouse cursor. Do you see this thing? I'm trying

02:30:32.240 --> 02:30:38.160
to point at it with mine, but you can see like a circle kind of floating around. So it looks like

02:30:38.160 --> 02:30:46.560
he's mostly playing the game through. I think right here, I think this is like movement inputs.

02:30:46.560 --> 02:30:51.520
I'm not entirely sure. Nope. No, he's moving without that because you can tell he's his

02:30:51.520 --> 02:30:55.680
mouse cursor's up there, but he has all these different abilities and he's playing the game

02:30:55.680 --> 02:31:01.200
still. And I don't know like, you know, to what degree he's able to do multiple inputs at a time

02:31:01.200 --> 02:31:06.160
or whatever. Like I have no idea, but the fact that he can play successfully at all is what you're

02:31:06.160 --> 02:31:10.160
doing it. You're letting Elon put some chips in your brain. I don't want him to do it personally,

02:31:10.160 --> 02:31:19.360
I know, but you'd put a more interesting baby chip. Yeah, you'd put an Elon backed chip in

02:31:19.360 --> 02:31:26.640
your brain. I mean, if I was in this state, I would do it immediately. I would sign up immediately.

02:31:26.640 --> 02:31:32.640
Yep. As of this second, no, I don't want to do it for myself, but yeah, dude, if I'm paralyzed,

02:31:32.640 --> 02:31:39.280
like sign me up. This sounds amazing. I'm like very happy about that. That sounds really,

02:31:39.280 --> 02:31:47.600
really cool. That looks like such a huge quality of life change. Oh yeah, dude. Like I, wow.

02:31:48.720 --> 02:31:55.280
Yeah. World changing. Man, can you imagine if he had just stayed focused on doing cool stuff?

02:31:56.080 --> 02:32:01.440
There is some, there's some, this is cool. I know, but just the focus. The focus seems to have,

02:32:01.440 --> 02:32:06.000
yeah. Yeah. Sorry, I went the wrong direction.

02:32:10.160 --> 02:32:19.120
Oh, okay. I want to talk about the 9950X3D2. Yeah. AMD announced this super cool chip.

02:32:19.120 --> 02:32:27.120
Okay, we're talking 16s and five cores. We're talking full 3DV cache on both tiles,

02:32:27.840 --> 02:32:33.600
got all the 3DV cache. It's a no compromises processor like we've never seen before.

02:32:34.400 --> 02:32:44.880
And hear me out. I propose that AMD makes it really expensive. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear

02:32:44.880 --> 02:32:48.800
me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hold on. One sec. One sec. I'm going to get there. Okay.

02:32:48.800 --> 02:32:55.760
I propose that AMD goes full, like extreme edition, like FX classic on this. They make it,

02:32:55.760 --> 02:33:01.840
they make it a really expensive Halo flagship thing that most people can't afford.

02:33:02.880 --> 02:33:08.640
They take that money. They take that bushel of money that they got and give us a freaking

02:33:09.600 --> 02:33:20.800
modern Ryzen 3 for once in a couple of generations. Did anybody else notice this? Where is Ryzen 3

02:33:22.240 --> 02:33:23.600
in the current product stack?

02:33:25.840 --> 02:33:36.160
Yeah. Even the Zen 4 generation Ryzen 3 desktop SKUs, the 8300G and the 8300GE,

02:33:36.160 --> 02:33:44.480
were only one Zen 4 core and three Zen 4C cores. We haven't had, we don't have a Zen 3,

02:33:44.480 --> 02:33:52.640
a Zen 5 Ryzen 3, even though like, when did Zen 5 freaking launch? When did Zen 5 launch?

02:33:52.640 --> 02:33:58.560
Remember when AMD used to launch the whole stack and you could buy anything from the,

02:33:58.560 --> 02:34:03.680
from a threadripper all the way down to a Ryzen 3 and we were, we were G to G. It was only dictated

02:34:03.680 --> 02:34:12.640
by, you know, how much money you had to spend. Zen 5 launched in August of 2024. We are over

02:34:12.640 --> 02:34:18.000
two, we're over a year and a half into Zen 5 and we don't have a Ryzen 3 yet.

02:34:18.720 --> 02:34:26.560
Bring it back. That'd be sweet. Give me a Ryzen 3 because realistically,

02:34:26.560 --> 02:34:32.080
nobody needs this chip. This is not a chip that anybody needs. Pretty cool. Yeah,

02:34:32.080 --> 02:34:38.320
I didn't say it's not cool. I said that nobody needs it. Pretty sweet. The 9850 or the 9950X3D

02:34:38.320 --> 02:34:46.400
already exists with one 3DV cache die and then a regular one. The 9800X3D exists with

02:34:46.400 --> 02:34:52.000
eight cores that are all 3DV cache if you just don't want to deal with any kind of latency issues

02:34:52.000 --> 02:34:59.040
across multiple dies. The 9850X3D also exists if you want to slightly faster that. What do you

02:34:59.040 --> 02:35:04.240
think they're going to do next? Naming scheme. Oh yeah, we're up to a 10 again. I mean Intel

02:35:04.240 --> 02:35:11.600
just went for it and was like, 10 all the things. And then stopped. What did NVIDIA do? NVIDIA skipped

02:35:11.600 --> 02:35:17.040
10 and did 20 if I recall correctly, right? No, no, no. 10 was goaded, right? 1080. What am I

02:35:17.040 --> 02:35:24.160
talking about? Yeah, super goaded. Windows, Windows just played. We don't need to learn from them.

02:35:24.160 --> 02:35:27.840
They went straight from 8.1 to 10. I don't think anybody needs to learn from them. They went for

02:35:27.840 --> 02:35:37.120
it for 10. Yeah, 10. Yeah, maybe they just go 10, whatever. Whatever. This is a distraction.

02:35:37.120 --> 02:35:44.080
I want a Ryzen 3. So this cool chip sounds super cool and is really interesting. Nobody really

02:35:44.080 --> 02:35:51.360
needs it. I'm going to die on that hill. Nobody needs a 9950X3D2. If you're all about the gaming,

02:35:51.360 --> 02:35:58.480
you can get a 9800 or 9850X3D. If you're all about the multicore, you can get a 9850X3D02.

02:35:58.480 --> 02:36:02.720
You can get the regular one and you could still game and still do multicore things on it all day

02:36:02.720 --> 02:36:10.560
if that pleases you. Nobody needs this chip. So AMD, price it really high, take that bushel of money

02:36:11.440 --> 02:36:19.360
and use it to make a Zen 5 Ryzen 3. It's time. It's finally time. Do it, do it, do it, do it,

02:36:19.360 --> 02:36:25.440
do it, do it, do it, do it, no balls, do it, do it. That's it. I just wanted to talk about that.

02:36:26.400 --> 02:36:32.480
I don't know how to pronounce this. Why barrel did buyer did something on full plane chats? It

02:36:32.480 --> 02:36:37.680
pointed out that a during the WAN Show, assuming we don't kill it in the next couple minutes,

02:36:37.680 --> 02:36:44.000
but like during the WAN Show, the Artemis 2 will be closer to the moon than to earth.

02:36:45.520 --> 02:36:51.120
Pretty cool. I was looking at the speed that we're going. Like how many thousands of miles

02:36:51.200 --> 02:36:57.040
per second it was or whatever. A lot of people realized during that lunch how freaking far away

02:36:57.040 --> 02:37:03.440
the moon is because they're like, wait, wait, why isn't it that close to the moon yet? It's like,

02:37:04.000 --> 02:37:15.440
yeah, it's going to be a while, dude. It's, yeah. Yeah. What's the speed of it? Speed of our

02:37:16.080 --> 02:37:24.160
Artemis 2 per second. Oh, it's like 20. It's like completely obscene. 25,000 miles per hour or roughly

02:37:24.800 --> 02:37:30.080
seven miles per second. Sorry, I had that wrong before. According to AI overview, hold on a second.

02:37:31.040 --> 02:37:34.960
Okay, Wikipedia. I thought it was 24 something is what it's currently. Let's see.

02:37:36.320 --> 02:37:43.760
25,000 miles per hour says Wikipedia. 4,000 kilometers an hour. That's like,

02:37:44.320 --> 02:37:55.360
it's just, it's unfathomable to go 11 kilometers a second. Freaking think about 11 kilometers.

02:37:56.560 --> 02:38:01.520
Okay, I'm going on Google Maps. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm on Google Maps, boys.

02:38:04.080 --> 02:38:10.960
Okay, time to not have anything. Those numbers are wrong. Oh, cool. Are they? Someone at

02:38:11.040 --> 02:38:19.520
Volbinchast just yelling. No, it's fine down. I checked. Okay. Okay, so hold on. Where's the

02:38:19.520 --> 02:38:26.400
where's the little? Yes. Here we go. This is a cool site, issinfo.net slash Artemis.

02:38:26.400 --> 02:38:35.280
That's so cool. What it is cool. But you can see, so they're listing the velocity in kilometers

02:38:35.280 --> 02:38:40.240
and seconds. So not how we were just doing it, but 1.39 kilometers per second. That's

02:38:41.040 --> 02:38:46.320
wild. And yeah, you can see the earth and moon differences. So the earth is currently

02:38:46.960 --> 02:38:54.320
217,500 kilometers away and the moon is currently 22,855 kilometers away. What a cool website.

02:38:54.320 --> 02:39:00.640
So check this out. Check this out. Yeah. Okay, at this scale on Google Maps. Okay,

02:39:00.640 --> 02:39:06.000
one kilometer is right here. Yeah. All right. It ends like right there. It ends like,

02:39:06.000 --> 02:39:09.520
oh, no, it ends a little farther. Oh, man. Okay, get rid of us, Dan. Forget it.

02:39:11.360 --> 02:39:17.360
Ah, everything I own in a box. But he has to worry about me. Oh, okay. There, fine. Okay,

02:39:17.360 --> 02:39:23.680
you happy? Also, you don't have to do work. I understand. I get it. Okay. So that's a kilometer.

02:39:23.680 --> 02:39:32.000
That's a kilometer. So this is probably about 15 clicks, 15 seconds to go from Langley to Aldergrove.

02:39:32.000 --> 02:39:40.640
Oh, what? That's pretty sick. Like what? That's fantastic. Yeah. At the current moment,

02:39:40.640 --> 02:39:44.960
the velocity, I realized on here, sorry, I didn't notice this, but there's a little

02:39:44.960 --> 02:39:48.560
switch here. You can switch from kilometers to miles. And for some reason, the velocity

02:39:48.560 --> 02:39:53.600
comes, goes from kilometers per second to miles per hour. But sure. So in miles per hour, it's at

02:39:53.600 --> 02:39:57.120
effectively 3,100. Well, that's because kilometers per second is meters per second,

02:39:57.120 --> 02:40:03.600
which is science-y stuff. Yeah. That actually kind of checks out for Americans that use metric

02:40:03.600 --> 02:40:10.800
for stuff that matters and then use Imperial for daily life. Sure. But yeah, it will cross the

02:40:10.800 --> 02:40:17.600
threshold of being closer to the moon than the Earth during land show, which is just so sick.

02:40:17.600 --> 02:40:22.800
Godspeed. So cool. Day three of 10. Lunar fly by in two days, 21 hours and 39 minutes. Can't

02:40:22.800 --> 02:40:29.440
hardly wait. Sick. Man, I can't believe they're going to like, like human eyes on the back.

02:40:30.560 --> 02:40:35.360
It's cool. It's freaking sweet. Very cool. You know what else is kind of cool? It's hard to not

02:40:35.360 --> 02:40:39.760
be inspired by this stuff, man. Like you see like... He's going to do it again. Oh, yeah. I mean,

02:40:39.760 --> 02:40:45.920
we did this once already in the show. Honestly, it's by grace that you're only getting two so far.

02:40:46.880 --> 02:40:54.400
Yeah. I've seen a bunch of sentiment online of people being genuinely like positively inspired

02:40:54.400 --> 02:41:00.160
by something that's happening in the world, which is so rare right now. And I think worth just so,

02:41:00.160 --> 02:41:08.160
so much. I'll keep it at that. But yeah, it's awesome. Agreed. Really awesome. Anthropic. The

02:41:08.160 --> 02:41:14.000
company behind cloud, which is how I pronounce it, accidentally leaked the entire source code of

02:41:14.000 --> 02:41:20.400
cloud code that AI powered coding assistant on March 31st. It was not an April Fool's joke.

02:41:20.400 --> 02:41:25.360
The leak happened because someone at Anthropic left a source map file in the npm package for

02:41:25.360 --> 02:41:31.920
cloud code version 2.1.88. Source maps are debugging tools that aren't supposed to ship in production,

02:41:31.920 --> 02:41:36.880
and this one pointed to a zip archive on Anthropic's own cloud storage containing the full code base.

02:41:37.920 --> 02:41:42.080
Technical background on source maps. Basically, when code gets compiled for distribution, it becomes

02:41:42.080 --> 02:41:46.720
unreadable, and a source map is a reference file that links the scrambled code back to the original,

02:41:46.720 --> 02:41:51.040
so including one is essentially handing out directions to your entire code base.

02:41:51.840 --> 02:41:58.000
Security researcher Chau Fan Xu spotted it and shared the finding publicly. Within hours,

02:41:58.000 --> 02:42:06.640
the code was mirrored across GitHub, being forked 50,000 times before Anthropic could do anything

02:42:07.040 --> 02:42:10.000
about it. Anthropic confirmed the leak in a statement, saying,

02:42:10.560 --> 02:42:14.160
this was a release packaging issue caused by human error, not a security breach.

02:42:16.080 --> 02:42:21.440
And that no customer data or credentials were exposed. Anthropic then filed DMCA notices against

02:42:21.440 --> 02:42:26.560
over 8,000 GitHub repositories, but accidentally took down thousands of legitimate forks of their

02:42:26.560 --> 02:42:31.280
own public repo in the process, forcing them to walk back most of the takedowns. I mean,

02:42:31.280 --> 02:42:40.720
I can see how during a crisis, people might just kind of be, it rarely makes the crisis better,

02:42:42.560 --> 02:42:51.600
but I understand it. Meanwhile, a clean slate rewrite called Claw Code hit 10,000 stars in a

02:42:51.600 --> 02:42:58.560
single day, making it the fastest growing repository in GitHub history. This is actually the second

02:42:58.560 --> 02:43:04.080
time that Cloud's cloud code source has been exposed in just over a year. Our discussion

02:43:04.080 --> 02:43:08.240
question, it feels like the advent of vibe coding is expanding the threat surface for digital

02:43:08.240 --> 02:43:12.000
infrastructure, creating opportunities for malicious actors to damage in front, also

02:43:12.000 --> 02:43:15.280
for own goal situations like this. Do you think there's a point where we turn the corner and

02:43:15.280 --> 02:43:21.200
walk back the fragility we've built into these systems? Very funny, no. Very optimistic, though.

02:43:21.920 --> 02:43:27.600
Thank you for writing that discussion question. What else do we have, Mr. Luke?

02:43:28.640 --> 02:43:38.880
Let's see here. That one's kind of... Microsoft didn't convince me, but Microsoft says it's going

02:43:38.880 --> 02:43:42.160
to... Hold on, no, before you start, before you start. Okay, I gotta...

02:43:47.600 --> 02:43:50.160
Fuck, it says it's going to improve Windows search.

02:43:50.880 --> 02:44:00.720
Sure. I like it. Microsoft's Pavan Daveluri recently released a blog post entitled,

02:44:00.720 --> 02:44:04.000
Our Commitment to Windows Quality. I think we talked about that on WAN,

02:44:04.000 --> 02:44:08.480
where numerous pledges were made to improve the current state of Windows. Windows shell

02:44:08.480 --> 02:44:13.600
product head, Tali Roth, has been actively replying to user feedback, claiming improvements

02:44:13.600 --> 02:44:18.880
coming to Windows search, stating simpler and less distracting are definitely in the mix.

02:44:20.320 --> 02:44:26.720
Some of the focuses Microsoft is working on are that install the apps appear instantly and consistently.

02:44:30.720 --> 02:44:32.800
Core system components are always discoverable,

02:44:35.040 --> 02:44:37.680
and local files are ranked higher than external suggestions.

02:44:39.120 --> 02:44:43.760
Wow, how the fuck did it take you this long? This is my naive, I believe you face,

02:44:43.760 --> 02:44:48.880
by the way, that I've been doing this whole time. How are we supposed to trust a company

02:44:48.880 --> 02:44:51.920
that didn't prioritize all of that in the first place? Insane.

02:44:51.920 --> 02:44:54.080
This is still good news WAN news, though, because

02:44:55.040 --> 02:44:58.400
publicly acknowledging it... At least they're saying it. At least they... It's a step.

02:44:58.400 --> 02:45:00.640
At least they know. It's a step.

02:45:02.400 --> 02:45:05.840
It's a step, at least, vaguely in the correct direction. I don't know if I'm going to say

02:45:05.840 --> 02:45:10.560
confidently enough that it is in the right direction. I hope so. Because there hasn't... I haven't seen the action from it yet.

02:45:10.560 --> 02:45:14.240
Angry Panda PC says, how hard was this? Maybe it's not a step.

02:45:14.720 --> 02:45:19.360
We're going to stop the orphan grinding machine.

02:45:20.160 --> 02:45:21.760
It's like, why did you have one?

02:45:23.600 --> 02:45:28.720
I thank you, but why? Why was it ever turned on in the first place?

02:45:28.720 --> 02:45:32.880
And who kept putting orphans in it? So I think it's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:45:33.520 --> 02:45:36.560
Kit in full point chat said, intentions of a step. I think that's more accurate.

02:45:36.560 --> 02:45:43.360
It's not that they stepped in the right direction. It's maybe that they, like, looked that way at least once and thought about it. They're thinking about it.

02:45:43.360 --> 02:45:48.000
No key in the chat. It's almost like indexing search and making it offline only was

02:45:49.040 --> 02:45:50.960
the whole point of search.

02:45:52.160 --> 02:45:55.200
Yeah. That's what an index does, isn't it?

02:45:56.000 --> 02:46:02.800
Am I misunderstanding? Desperately, desperately, never need search to look at the internet, ever.

02:46:02.800 --> 02:46:07.040
And it shouldn't for anyone. And that sucks. I wouldn't mind it as a toggle.

02:46:07.760 --> 02:46:11.360
Sure. Toggle would be fine. That's right. It's right there. That starts off. It's right there.

02:46:11.360 --> 02:46:15.760
That would be fine. And it should use whatever browser I tell it and not ever change it,

02:46:16.800 --> 02:46:19.040
ever, not even one time.

02:46:21.920 --> 02:46:26.080
Yeah. Okay. That was the most angry I've ever been about good news.

02:46:26.800 --> 02:46:30.160
But it's still good news. I'm still feeling good. It's that whole pain of fixing thing.

02:46:31.200 --> 02:46:36.880
They might be fixing it. It might be happening, but it's been so long and so frustrating and so

02:46:36.880 --> 02:46:41.920
annoying that it just, it's, you know, you rip the band-aid off. It feels bad.

02:46:41.920 --> 02:46:46.800
You cut open in order to surgery that is painful. It feels bad.

02:46:46.800 --> 02:46:50.640
You need to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's like, there's negative parts to fixing things.

02:46:50.640 --> 02:46:53.680
And I think this has been so frustrating for so long.

02:46:53.680 --> 02:46:58.240
And there's been so many seemingly bad intentions involved that it's just...

02:47:02.160 --> 02:47:12.080
Anyways. This is cool. Researchers have developed ground penetrating Wi-Fi tech with a 100 meter range.

02:47:12.080 --> 02:47:17.680
This magnetic induction method of transmitting signals underground could help reach people who

02:47:17.680 --> 02:47:23.040
are trapped or lost. South Korea's Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute has

02:47:23.040 --> 02:47:27.840
demonstrated wireless communication 100 meters underground using magnetic induction rather than

02:47:27.840 --> 02:47:32.640
traditional radio frequencies, which get absorbed by soil and rock pretty much immediately.

02:47:32.640 --> 02:47:37.040
The system uses a one meter loop transmitting antenna on the surface and a small handheld

02:47:37.040 --> 02:47:41.440
receiving sensor and was tested in a limestone environment specifically chosen because it's

02:47:41.440 --> 02:47:47.120
one of the worst possible conditions for radio signals. The data rate is not high,

02:47:47.120 --> 02:47:52.800
just two to four kilobits per second, but that's enough for voice communication.

02:47:53.440 --> 02:47:58.080
ETRI is already working to shrink the technology into something that could fit in a smartphone

02:47:58.080 --> 02:48:02.480
with potential applications in mine rescues and underground construction.

02:48:04.080 --> 02:48:07.680
Our discussion question is they're already looking at putting it in smartphones.

02:48:07.680 --> 02:48:10.880
Well, if magnetic induction can punch through 100 meters of solid rock,

02:48:10.880 --> 02:48:13.920
what does that mean for connectivity in places that have never had it before?

02:48:13.920 --> 02:48:18.000
I remember I did a really cool course in high school that was just called technology.

02:48:18.000 --> 02:48:23.200
Imagine, you know, me being interested in that. And our final project was a submarine.

02:48:23.280 --> 02:48:30.160
So you had to put three motors on it so that it would have full six axes of movement.

02:48:33.280 --> 02:48:38.240
You had to achieve neutral buoyancy. So the final exam for it was you had to put it into a tank.

02:48:38.240 --> 02:48:41.680
It had to never touch the top, never touch the bottom. And then you had to like...

02:48:41.680 --> 02:48:45.200
Actually sounds pretty complicated for high school. ...navigate. That's cool. Yeah, it was super cool. That's wicked.

02:48:45.200 --> 02:48:50.240
It was simpler than it sounds because like our controller or so part of the project was

02:48:50.240 --> 02:48:54.800
waterproofing the motors. So we embedded them in film canisters, which were a thing when I was in high school.

02:48:55.840 --> 02:49:02.880
We embedded... They were readily available. We embedded them in film canisters and then sealed them in like paraffin wax.

02:49:02.880 --> 02:49:06.800
So we had to make the motors waterproof. Then we had to run lines to them.

02:49:06.800 --> 02:49:10.080
And we just had like an umbilical cord that went up to a controller

02:49:10.080 --> 02:49:16.400
that was essentially just three toggle switches. So you could toggle your motor forward, off, or backwards.

02:49:16.640 --> 02:49:21.600
And anyway, so yeah, you had to like do a thing and it had to not touch the surface,

02:49:21.600 --> 02:49:26.720
not touch the walls of the tub, and not touch the bottom, not bathtub, like a tank.

02:49:28.560 --> 02:49:33.920
Anyway, it was a real hassle. That umbilical cord, f*** that umbilical cord sideways.

02:49:33.920 --> 02:49:38.160
I got a good mark and I did manage to achieve the mission objective,

02:49:38.160 --> 02:49:41.840
but it wasn't exactly flexible.

02:49:41.840 --> 02:49:46.000
And so having that umbilical cord on it sucked, could we use this for underwater?

02:49:46.960 --> 02:49:50.240
Oh, very interesting. Like controls and stuff, that'd be cool.

02:49:50.240 --> 02:49:53.840
Livestreams underwater right now, you have to run a cable.

02:49:53.840 --> 02:49:58.880
Yeah. Yeah, you just have to... Just communication in general, my understanding is you just like have to run a cable.

02:49:58.880 --> 02:50:01.780
Yeah. That would be so cool. Yeah.

02:50:02.480 --> 02:50:05.440
Ooh, ooh, ooh, lowlander.

02:50:07.280 --> 02:50:12.960
Yeah. Land party in a cave. Yeah. I don't know what the appetite would be for that type of content.

02:50:12.960 --> 02:50:18.720
I think. It's one of the first things that our dear friend Austin Evans sent me this morning.

02:50:19.520 --> 02:50:20.400
Spacelander.

02:50:23.440 --> 02:50:28.320
He goes uh, Highlander to my friend, because he saw yesterday's video.

02:50:29.760 --> 02:50:35.840
Oh, yeah. So for those who are relatively new to the channel, we hiked to the top of Mount Albert,

02:50:35.840 --> 02:50:41.040
with some of our friends in the tech space, including Austin Evans,

02:50:41.040 --> 02:50:45.520
and we got a Guinness World Record for the world's highest elevation land party,

02:50:45.520 --> 02:50:49.120
which was actually broken, which I love.

02:50:49.120 --> 02:50:53.280
Because in a way that legitimizes the fact that anyone else even wanted to,

02:50:53.920 --> 02:50:57.300
legitimizes what we did in my opinion. Yeah.

02:51:00.640 --> 02:51:04.560
We got one, I wouldn't call it good news.

02:51:04.560 --> 02:51:08.880
I don't know what kind of news to call it because... Dude, sorry, one sec.

02:51:08.880 --> 02:51:12.800
With portable routers.

02:51:12.800 --> 02:51:16.080
Oh, the military apparently uses ultra low frequency RF for underwater,

02:51:16.080 --> 02:51:21.280
but I don't know, would this be better? Anyway, carry on. With portable routers, and if you don't want to count phones,

02:51:22.000 --> 02:51:25.360
like steam decks and stuff, it would be so much easier these days.

02:51:26.080 --> 02:51:30.240
Because we had that like lead acid battery. Oh yeah, like to do a land party?

02:51:30.240 --> 02:51:33.600
Oh yeah, 100%. With like little tiny puck routers and stuff now?

02:51:33.600 --> 02:51:43.120
Oh yeah. Anyways. Okay, so basically what I am trying to, what I'm trying to understand here,

02:51:43.120 --> 02:51:50.560
there's a bit of growing antagonism towards ubiquity, the networking company.

02:51:50.560 --> 02:51:53.600
So let's go through this and then let's talk about it,

02:51:53.600 --> 02:52:01.120
because I'm trying to wrap my brain around it a little bit here. Members of the self-described anti-authoritarian art movement, Pussy Riot,

02:52:01.120 --> 02:52:06.960
have occupied ubiquity's Manhattan headquarters, accusing the American tech company of powering Russian war crimes.

02:52:08.160 --> 02:52:11.440
Since the disabling of Starlink, Russian soldiers have been said

02:52:11.440 --> 02:52:17.440
to favor ubiquity hardware as a replacement. Which I must say is automatically confusing.

02:52:17.440 --> 02:52:21.680
So just a second, just a second. Oh, it's the long range dishes.

02:52:21.680 --> 02:52:24.240
Sure, it's just not the same thing though. It's not.

02:52:24.880 --> 02:52:28.560
The group has demanded that ubiquity obey US sanctions,

02:52:28.560 --> 02:52:32.000
acknowledge Russian military use, work with Ukraine to stop it.

02:52:32.960 --> 02:52:37.360
Yahoo Finance noted back in January that ubiquity products were legally sold in Russia

02:52:37.360 --> 02:52:43.360
until February of 2022. Also noted that ubiquity relies heavily on third-party distribution and sales partners

02:52:43.360 --> 02:52:47.760
rather than making direct sales to end users. Okay, okay, this is one of the things that I had wanted to talk about.

02:52:48.960 --> 02:52:53.840
Because I heard about this a long time ago, but that was my understanding, was that they weren't selling it.

02:52:53.840 --> 02:52:58.560
Okay, so this kind of showed up in my Twitter feed a little bit,

02:52:58.560 --> 02:53:00.720
and I was like, okay, hold on a second.

02:53:02.480 --> 02:53:10.160
And I'm wondering if the people demanding this understand fully what they're asking for.

02:53:12.880 --> 02:53:15.920
Right now, ubiquity is one of the few.

02:53:16.720 --> 02:53:24.400
And at their scale, the only network infrastructure companies that is not

02:53:25.360 --> 02:53:34.400
trying to turn everything into a gate kept cloud subscription service for the hardware that you

02:53:34.400 --> 02:53:39.280
bought. With like insane amounts of them having the ability to track and sniff and blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:53:39.280 --> 02:53:41.780
And shut down hardware that you own. Yeah.

02:53:43.280 --> 02:53:46.400
It feels to me like ubiquity.

02:53:46.400 --> 02:53:51.760
I have not seen any actual evidence that ubiquity is complicit in any way.

02:53:51.760 --> 02:54:00.560
They're certainly profiting. If their third-party resellers are buying ubiquity equipment and breaking the law and

02:54:00.560 --> 02:54:08.640
selling it to Russia. And they could be, they could know what one of those third-party sellers is facilitating

02:54:08.640 --> 02:54:10.960
that and still be working with them. I have no idea.

02:54:11.840 --> 02:54:15.440
They might. And that would be a bad, but I have no idea.

02:54:15.440 --> 02:54:18.560
I haven't seen evidence of that yet.

02:54:19.120 --> 02:54:31.680
However, it feels like, however, I don't believe that ubiquity has taken any actual direct

02:54:31.680 --> 02:54:34.720
action to profit from this conflict.

02:54:35.840 --> 02:54:42.080
And I'm a little confused about sort of the demands here because it feels to me like what

02:54:42.080 --> 02:54:51.280
we're asking is for a ubiquity to put in backdoor controls that allow network infrastructure

02:54:51.280 --> 02:54:59.040
to just be turned off remotely because we don't agree with what the user is doing with it.

02:55:00.080 --> 02:55:08.720
Am I missing something? This is one of those ones that I am very open to.

02:55:09.680 --> 02:55:16.080
I don't understand all the dynamics. The All Mighty Q in full-plane chat said there's reportedly a call with a UI,

02:55:16.720 --> 02:55:21.200
in this case, ubiquity, sales rep saying, yes, we can send product to Russia.

02:55:22.480 --> 02:55:24.800
And it did not specify that it was third-party.

02:55:25.760 --> 02:55:27.600
I've asked them for a link.

02:55:29.120 --> 02:55:37.360
Okay, but even if that were the case, there was this one time that an LMG employee said

02:55:37.440 --> 02:55:42.480
something that doesn't necessarily mean that leadership knew or approved or agreed.

02:55:44.160 --> 02:55:47.200
I mean, if that is a thing that's actively happening, that's still something that you

02:55:47.200 --> 02:55:52.240
can get up in arms about and then expect them to make a change. Right, but what change are you going to ask for?

02:55:52.240 --> 02:55:56.640
Do you want them to be able to turn off their network switches? No, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.

02:55:56.640 --> 02:55:58.960
Oh, I understand. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, sure.

02:55:59.680 --> 02:56:04.560
Like if this is a thing that's happening, even if leadership doesn't know, then they can deal with it.

02:56:05.200 --> 02:56:09.280
So, when Bingo Chronified says, shutting off remote drone connections, if they're committing

02:56:09.280 --> 02:56:14.960
war crimes feels incredibly chaotic, good to me, but the problem is, if they can shut off that one,

02:56:14.960 --> 02:56:19.680
then they can shut off any other one and ubiquity- Yeah, theoretically, ubiquity would have no ability to do that.

02:56:20.240 --> 02:56:26.320
Right, which to my knowledge, at this time, do not have that built into any of their platforms.

02:56:26.320 --> 02:56:31.040
So, we're asking them to do something that in order for them to do, they would have to

02:56:31.040 --> 02:56:37.280
fundamentally change their approach of that when you buy a piece of ubiquity equipment,

02:56:37.280 --> 02:56:41.440
you own it and do stuff that you see fit with it.

02:56:41.440 --> 02:56:48.320
It's also such a false equivalency. Like, ubiquity is long-range communication dishes and stuff.

02:56:48.320 --> 02:56:53.680
It's so incredibly not Starlink. It's not Starlink. It's not low-earth orbit internet.

02:56:53.680 --> 02:56:57.200
It's from one fixed position to another.

02:56:57.200 --> 02:57:04.160
And, yeah, just Kisul Wildcat says, just stop selling to Russia.

02:57:04.160 --> 02:57:11.520
Right, but if it's going through a third party, ubiquity is not selling to Russia.

02:57:15.840 --> 02:57:20.560
I mean, if they actually are, then like, okay.

02:57:21.120 --> 02:57:27.920
Yeah, I mean, if they are, then that's terrible and

02:57:31.680 --> 02:57:35.280
I just, I haven't seen evidence.

02:57:35.920 --> 02:57:38.640
So, yeah, Kisul Wildcat says it's not third party.

02:57:39.520 --> 02:57:45.200
But how do you know? Yeah. You're assuming that because the equipment is new that it's direct.

02:57:45.200 --> 02:57:49.280
And we're waiting right now, so, well, maybe the stream just went down.

02:57:49.280 --> 02:57:56.320
But we're waiting right now. So, if you guys have a link to any of this, that would be interesting.

02:57:56.320 --> 02:57:58.880
AlmightyQ just linked. Yeah.

02:57:59.520 --> 02:58:02.560
Slam's ubiquity for products that keep showing up on the front lines.

02:58:03.440 --> 02:58:07.280
Okay. Do we have proof that they know?

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Or anything about it? How it's getting there.

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I mean, theoretically, okay, could they track a serial number by who they sold it to?

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I mean, the thing to remember to those that even the ubiquity reseller may not know.

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Like, it's not like countries like Russia or Iran, countries that are constantly sanctioned,

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it's not like they're not familiar with the game of buying half a dozen here and half a dozen here

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and half a dozen here and half a dozen here that make it extremely difficult to narrow down exactly

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which one of your resellers is doing it or even knows.

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I really do feel like we might be oversimplifying this.

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This is slightly out of topic, but I thought it was really funny.

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Yeah. A dose in full-point chat linked this picture.

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I thought it was pretty good. Cisco firewall, the protective against Chinese backdoors.

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Huawei firewall, the protective against US backdoors. Checkpoint firewall, the protective against Russian backdoors.

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Fortinet firewall, the protective against Israeli backdoors. Palo Alto firewall.

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I don't know. The cool kids have them. PF Sense firewall for good luck. And then finally, the internal network.

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Yeah. I didn't find a call, but I did find this. Balrid says they've been doing stuff like this for decades.

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Yeah. Pretty much.

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I don't know, man, because we work with ubiquity a fair bit.

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And so, you know, I want to know if this is a huge problem.

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So Wildcat keeps saying the Russians are fielding new equipment in huge volumes.

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So that doesn't actually mean anything. Ubiquity manufactures networking equipment in huge volumes.

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Like that doesn't mean that ubiquity is selling it direct.

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You just keep saying the same thing that doesn't change anything though.

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Okay. The almighty Q says more than a decade after ubiquity was fined for reckless disregard for

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sanctions obligations when its products ended up in Iran, Hunter Brook found ubiquity products

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may still be flowing there. Current official distributor listed on ubiquity's website, Yemen based alpha tech maybe operating

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branches in Shiraz and Tehran, according to its own Persian language advertisements.

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In 2014, regulators found ubiquity after at least 600 grand of prohibited equipment was

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diverted to sanctioned something, I think, that got cut off by.

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Okay. So we're going to have to, clearly, we're going to have to look into a little bit more.

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But what I will say is that if ubiquity knows, that's terrible.

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Step one. And step two, if the thing we're asking for is for them to have central control of the

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networking equipment that they sell, I don't know that I can get behind that.

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Yeah. I don't know if they do or not, but yeah.

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If they do have, if they are able to turn off networking equipment remotely?

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Oh, no, no, no, sorry. To my knowledge, they can't. I thought you were saying something else, my bad.

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I only heard part of what you said. Nokia said, I didn't find a call, but I did find this, a screenshot from an email response from

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a sales manager from NAG, an online IT retailer that sells ubiquity items and was once an

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official ubiquity reseller, also known as they aren't now.

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According to an archived 2014 ubiquity webpage in the email, the sales manager clarified that

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delivery to the occupied territories would take seven or eight days. It's like, okay, like if we, if we.

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This seems like non-tech people not really understanding what they're protesting for the

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most part, but that's what it seems like, unless ubiquity knows and is facilitating this in any

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way. We also haven't exactly done like an overwhelming amount of research here to.

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No, we haven't. That's why I presented this the way I did.

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Like I'm, I'm, I'm taking only conditional positions here because I do not have all of

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the information that I would need. Yeah. And, uh, Drac Ryu, I've heard this as well, somewhat infamously, the US bought titanium

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from the Russians to build the SR 71 to use against the Russians.

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Yeah, I remember that. The, the government set up shell companies to buy things from a foreign enemy to counter

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the foreign enemy. Like, I don't know. But then that being said, like, like we were saying earlier, if they're doing this knowingly,

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like if ubiquity is very, if they're like, oh yeah, this distributor very obviously just

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resells their stuff to Russia, then they should stop working with them.

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Okay. This seems to show good details. All right. I'm going to check this out.

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Okay. I mean, we can, we can take this offline because we've, uh, we've got to get to when after dark.

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Mr. Dan, you want to do the thing? Oh yeah, sure.

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If we're there, let's do that.

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Yeah. Maybe people don't understand the products that ubiquity is selling because like this link

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that was like, oh, this one has good detail. It's like ubiquity has stayed silent unlike SpaceX, SpaceX who has the ability to turn

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it off, ubiquity who doesn't. And it's CEO Robert Para, owner of Memphis Grizzlies, sure, have not publicly commented on it.

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If I was him, I wouldn't. Yeah. What is there to say? It's the world's most prominent manufacturer of Wi-Fi bridges.

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Like, is he going to, like, is he going to sit down and explain to people how networking works?

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He can. I actually had dinner with him once. He's a super smart guy.

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Yeah, yeah. Obiquities products appear to be widely available in Russia, mostly sourced from distributors

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in, it says, third countries, such as Kazakhstan and Turkey, Hunterbrook found.

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One Ukrainian communications officer told the outlet that an estimated 80% of the Russian

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bridges he observed near the front line had come from ubiquity.

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Russian units often receive the bridges from volunteers who purchase them using crowdfunded

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money. So like, what are we talking about?

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Oh my God. I don't know.

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Again, there might be more information other than this, but like. So ubiquity made a thing.

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I mean, this to me feels a little bit like, you know,

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storming Linus Torvalds' home office because sanctioned countries are using Linux.

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Like, I just, what do you want them to do about it?

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And I'm, like I said, we've worked with ubiquity. This is a full disclosure, guys.

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We've worked with ubiquity extensively in the past. If they are actually participating in this, then, yeah, condemn.

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But I haven't seen any actual evidence of it. And it was so awesome when they lost Starlink access.

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The impact of that was enormous. Like, I wouldn't want this to be helping them, obviously.

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But like, if, if, you know, if it came out that a bunch of Russian soldiers had LTT backpacks,

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because people were crowdsourced buying LTT backpacks.

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Shipping them to like Pakistan or something.

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The LTT backpacks. So like, I don't know. And there might be more to this story.

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There absolutely could be more to this story. There might be information that we don't have right now.

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You know, Floating Chat linking us stuff is, is usually pretty good,

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but it might not have all of the information. Someone linked the call from the vendor.

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You can't necessarily listen to this right now, but it's also a call from a vendor, right?

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It's theoretically not them.

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Um, okay. I don't think we have to stay on this topic any longer.

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Sure. For now. If they do know that distributors that they're working with are doing this,

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then I expect them to stop working with them. Cool.

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Cool. Mr. Dan!

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Oh wow, your fingers are still busy over there. Yeah, I was not expecting to do 400 today.

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Did we move through the rest of the coins?

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We did quite a few. I don't, I'm surprised that people didn't think that they were, you know.

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I mean, we did launch it on March 31st, North America time.

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I think we ended up launching our April Fool's joke around like two hours after it was April 1st in the first time zone.

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So a lot of people were like not ready for it and like legitimately butt hurt about us doing an ICO or being acquired.

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I had, I had one person, I think I actually, did I, did I send this one to you or did I just screenshot?

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It was so funny. That was pretty funny.

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I don't know if everyone's gonna, yeah, but that was pretty funny.

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Where is it? The funny part was that the writing style was so exactly identical

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that it's like obviously the same person.

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Hold on, I'm not sure which comment you're talking about the, I'm talking about the one where, oh no, not that, not that.

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Someone was like explaining to me, like mansplaining.

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They wrote me a whole paragraph, mansplaining, that a company called FOMO Foundry, literally it's FOMO.

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It's like about capitalizing on people's fear of missing out.

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And it's so, it's so negative.

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And it's like, bro, yes, that's the joke.

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My God, I just can't right now.

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Oh man, yeah, yes, we get it.

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Oh man, yeah.

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I feel like a lot of the criticism that we take for stuff like this

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centers on people thinking they are so much smarter than us

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that we couldn't have possibly understood their analysis of the thing that we

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gave to them to understand. And you know, we do miss things sometimes, but.

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Oh man. Yeah, maybe just, maybe just go touch some grass.

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Are we doing this topic? Which one?

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I don't know, I don't know. Well, it feels like more like part of After Dark.

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Okay, question for you. Sure. Should LTT, GamerJet, Q&A be a Wanshow topic?

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Or should it realistically just be a follow-up video? Because people have a lot of questions about it.

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Oh, follow-up video is not a terrible idea. Yeah.

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I mean, is it a terrible idea? It might be a terrible idea.

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Maybe it's a terrible idea. Do you want to talk about it more?

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I mean, there's clearly a lot of things that people want to know about.

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I'm just trying to, Chewy sent me a couple things. Like he sent me a couple like summary things.

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What's he saying? Do it, coward. Do it, coward. Is that a dare?

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Oh, what's the Disney character? Who's that? Who's that?

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Who's Fawcett? Is that a challenge? Would the follow-up video be technically based,

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or is it just talking about the fact that you bought a jet?

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It would be answering people's questions about it. So like some of the things that have come up, for instance.

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And I don't know if I would do another video. Like how do you reconcile this with past stances on The Land Show, for instance?

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Yeah. So I wouldn't do a video on that. I just covered on The Land Show. What else? My reasoning for that is I think,

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I think LTT's channel has been semi-losing its way for a bit.

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We've talked about this quite a bit. Yeah. And I think a Q&A about the jet that you bought isn't

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sparking a passion for technology. I'm way more interested in like talking about the AI trend

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and like memory prices going down. Exactly. Quite frankly. So I wouldn't make a dedicated video on that.

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Sure. That's taking up an upload slot. We can talk about it on The Land Show.

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You should address the questions on The Land Show, all that kind of stuff for sure.

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Sure. But. So, okay, for starters, there's a few things that I already know.

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So you guys don't have to type it in the Floatplane chat. Or actually, Dan, is there a bunch of stuff in the checkout messages about this?

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Should we just do this after and see what we end up addressing already?

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I said mostly that it was going to be in a topic in the future. But most of them were going to end up being sort of questions that you would pretty much

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answer anyway. Okay. So there's a lot of questions about like moderation across our social platforms

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in the days leading up to the big reveal.

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And the simple answer to that is that between the third party moderation teams who are

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community volunteers, our team internally, and me,

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we didn't have clear alignment on what was moderated, what wasn't moderated.

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But where it all came from was from a place of, for the love of God guys,

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we're announcing this in like two days. Can we just, can we have our fun and can we make a big announcement?

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And can we make a splash on April Fools? So it was for.

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We work really hard to make our April Fools very, very big and very special every year.

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And so I think there ended up being a little bit of confusion about,

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because we've allowed some threads to stay up about it. Yeah.

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But they've been small. They've not really gained a ton of momentum and they were a long time ago.

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And it makes sense that in the like days leading up to the big announcement that,

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you know, yeah, obviously people were going to, people have known for months.

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Some people have known literally for months that our April Fools this year was going to involve

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the tech jet. The Reddit knew. Yes. For months.

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Classic Reddit. Yeah. You did it Reddit.

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So in terms of, in terms of moderation regarding the jet, I don't really think there

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is any guidelines with respect to moderation of the jet.

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What's your other then? Yes. I was going to say, what is your ongoing?

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Yeah, ongoing. I would say anything that in any way compromises the safety or comfort of anyone on our team,

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me, my family, anyone to do with that is just obviously like no doi going to be immediately

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removed and immediately permaband. Like that's just kind of obvious.

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I've, I've had some people, you know, ask how to reconcile that with previous statements

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that I've made on the WAN Show. And I think that's pretty simple.

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I never claimed that I was running a platform that allowed absolutely any speech.

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Never said that. And it's not true today.

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So by all means, you know, do whatever you're going to do, but that doesn't entitle you to do it on

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our forum or on our subreddit or in our videos, anything like that.

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I've had a lot of people ask about, okay, what's your strategy with respect to carbon credits?

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And I'm going to tell you guys the exact same thing that I told the writing team because

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we had kind of an impromptu chat between me and the writers because they're the ones who are

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probably going to be most impacted by it because their projects potentially they're going to be,

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you know, coming with me or, you know, doing whatever, like they're the ones that are most

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likely to use along with the production crew. And so one of the things that came up was like, okay, well, you know,

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someone not going to name any names, basically it was like, okay, well, what are we doing about

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carbon offsets? And then someone immediately was like, those are bulls**t it.

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And they kind of started arguing about it. And I said, hey guys, that right there is why just like any charitable stuff that we do,

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that's going to stay between me and Yvonne because no matter what I say about it,

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it's going to make someone extremely angry. And I just don't, I don't feel like it.

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I don't feel like having that conversation. It's going to be Schrodinger's how we're handling this and whatever works for your head cannon,

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you can tell yourself that. So we're going to leave that alone.

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I've been asked how I reconcile saying that I was against it before.

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I've said both that I'm against it and I have also said that I'd like to try it.

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Did you say that you'd like to try it publicly? Yeah, it's on my show.

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That was on my show. Yeah, it's on my show clip. I said, I said I'd like to try it.

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As for the justification, I like Warren Buffett's line.

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So I'm going to steal it. He called his first jet the indefensible.

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Okay. I don't, I don't think there's any justification.

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What justification? What I will say is that from a business standpoint, it has been far less stupid

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than I might have initially imagined.

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That trip down to San Francisco for ARM was done in a single day.

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We went down there in the morning, very early in the morning, didn't love that part,

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but we went down there in the morning. We were able to attend the keynote.

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We saw the entire event. We saw the demos. We wrote a script.

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We shot it. We flew home early, which has never happened before.

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And this is while the US airports were a complete cluster bomb.

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Have you been able to sleep on the plane yet? No, it's a funny thing.

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I, this didn't end up making it into the video that I shot with Elijah, but

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in some ways it's actually a little bit, there's one way that it is a little bit

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less comfortable and that is the social pressure because I kind of feel like I'm

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hosting everyone else who's on it. I don't think you'd need to, but I understand.

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I know, but I mean, you've seen it. Like even, even our cabin crew member, like I, you know, I don't want to be, I don't,

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I never want to be rude, you know, and I feel like it's like if someone was in my

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living room and I was just napping, I'd feel really awkward.

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And so far I'm not over that at all on it. Okay.

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I managed to get about 15 minutes of shot eye on the way down to the ARM event,

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but that was only because I had wicked insomnia the night before and I functionally hadn't slept.

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And even then I only was able to sleep for like a little bit.

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I just want to see if there's, there's, there's a couple things that I had written down that

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people are bringing up a lot that I'd want to kind of talk about.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay.

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No, yeah, I think, I think that's about it.

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Um, all right. Dan, was there anything else in like, um, I almost called them checkout chats.

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No. Did. Okay. Checkout messages. Here's a question. Yeah. The, the WAN Show where you said that you were against it and the WAN Show where you

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said that you'd be interested in trying it. I think those are different WAN shows if I recall correctly.

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Is there a, what's the chronological order of that? Oh, I actually don't know.

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Interesting. I didn't look that close.

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Cause I wonder like what, what do you think might have changed?

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I know part of it was being surprised or this particular deal or whatever, being so good.

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Is that, is that, do you think that's the majority ever? Do you think something else changed?

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Um, I think it's a combination of things. I think it's the, it's the deal being way better than I expected.

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Um, and honestly, the biggest one is my uncle being involved.

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So I've got, there's a couple of people in Floatplane chat that are asking about, uh,

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how are we handling pilots? So my uncle is a pilot.

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Dude, his line in the video, he's always like that.

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How do you, how do you make something so simple, so complicated or whatever he said?

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He is one of the funniest people I've ever met. He's so funny.

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And he's just, he's like such a, he has such a, um, almost serious until you know him.

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Like he could be almost like kind of serious and a little scary until you know him really well.

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And you realize that he's like such a joker.

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I don't know. He's, he's, he's really cool. I wish, I wish he wanted to be on camera because you guys would freaking love him.

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He's, uh, he's awesome anyways. So he's, uh, so he's handling the operation.

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He's a pilot. He has mechanic experience as well.

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Like he's just so experienced. And what I said in the video was true.

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He told me, don't do it, but if you're going to do it, let's do this together.

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I'm literally going to drop everything. Like he was working and he's like, I'm just going to not renew my contracts and let's do it.

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And, um, he has made it accessible.

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A lot of people have pointed out that I don't have private aircraft money.

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And that is extremely true. Um, like obviously I've, I've done okay.

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Obviously, but the kinds of people, the kinds of people that I encounter,

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you know, in the little, the little FBOs, the little like private airports and stuff,

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they don't dress like me. They don't talk like they don't behave like me.

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I feel extremely out of place. They got really fancy hair.

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Yeah. I mean, did you feel a little out of place? Yeah.

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Remember the carpet they rolled out for that dog? Yeah.

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You were there for that one, right? I think so. Or you told me, I don't remember if this is a manufactured memory or not.

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Yeah. Anyway, um, so doing this with my uncle and him enabling it

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through just safety first, but just being, being scrappy and, and finding ways to make it

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economical, um, has been really fun. I've learned so much, like so much.

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I think the most, the most fun I had was when we were flying back from New York and I,

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man, I didn't know there was a third seat. Yeah. Yeah. But when I just sat there talking to them, because I just hunched there.

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I thought I was inconvenient. Yeah. Not sat there. I was, I was standing hunched over their, their seats.

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I thought I was inconveniencing them, but then every time I'd go to leave, they'd keep talking

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to me and then I ended up staying there for a really long time. You were there for like two plus hours, I think.

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Yeah. After a while, I kind of got the, the, the, the vibe that I was not inconveniencing them.

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And then I just hung out for a long time and it was really fun talking to them about how

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the machine to use his language, how the machine works.

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Cause like that's going to be way more interesting to me than anything else.

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Oh, 100%. And just hearing all the theory and watching them go through the motions of, of how, how

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you deal with like logging fuel usage and, and dealing with weather events through the course

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of, I didn't realize you would have a chart of all of the different expected weather events

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for the entire trip. And then you'd have to compare that against what it actually felt like.

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And they have the old school way and they have their iPads.

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Yeah. And one of them would do the old school written way and the other one would do the iPad way.

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And then they would compare notes. And so the whole thing was, that was very fun.

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That was actually, that was super cool.

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And then the last piece was the content piece.

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And I actually really wish I'd talked about this more in the video, but this has already

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unlocked the ability to do things that just would have been either from a shoot.

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What's the term for it? A opportunity cost standpoint, or from just a time and logistic standpoint, completely

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impossible. We wouldn't have been able to do the WAN Show live from Zero Trust World with Threat Locker,

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if it wasn't for this. Luke, this is hilarious. He made a comment as we were, as we were going back to the airport in order to fly back that

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last time he went down to Zero Trust World, he spent so long traveling to get down there

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that we were already leaving by the time he would have still been traveling to arrive there.

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That was a bit of a special thing because I landed, I had a connection through Toronto

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and that was when the plane and the helicopter smacked into each other or something.

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I think that was the one, but the whole airport was having disaster and then I had to have to

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stay there overnight and all this kind of stuff. Still, that did happen.

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It's also kind of difficult, as far as I understand it goes, to get a direct flight

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from Vancouver to Florida. Being able to just do it yourself is a pretty big skip in regards to time.

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It's pretty crazy.

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From a business standpoint, there have already been multiple things that we've kind of looked

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at and gone, this is less stupid than it might initially seem.

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That's very stupid, of course, but then this is another thing.

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Maybe not as stupid as you thought. This is another thing that I wish I had talked about more in the video,

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but it was a very free wheel. It wasn't scripted. Elijah and I were just hanging out and checking it out.

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He'd never seen it yet. There was a couple of points where I thought it was scripted. No, it's not scripted.

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Okay. Yeah, we're just that good.

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Yeah, it's intended to be very temporary.

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How long do you kind of want to keep it for? Well, my uncle's getting older.

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He's not going to be flying forever.

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This was the window. If I wanted to cosplay as a billionaire or Taylor Swift or whatever, by the way,

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fun fact, this is another thing I now have in common with Taylor Swift.

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He loves this. Big thighs and both of us once at some point owned a Falcon 900B.

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She apparently used to have a Falcon 900B. She has a way better jet now, but yeah.

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I thought that was funny. I immediately asked if they had the same one, but apparently no.

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No, not this one. I was looking to ask, is there a thing like, I know there's a decent amount of pilots that

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aren't the youngest. Is that a profession that you age out of earlier though?

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It feels like it could be. It depends. So for commercial, you age out sooner.

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And then for things like firefighting, which is

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really, really, really challenging work from my understanding, you can age out of later.

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And then corporate aviation, you age out of later.

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So like the big, well, the big jumbo jets with hundreds of people on them,

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you age out of first is my understanding. So it's not difficulty, it's risk.

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So my uncle is allowed to do what we're doing as long as his health continues to check out.

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And whatever limitations there are, I'm not an expert on the subject.

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I've just learned what I've learned from talking to him about it.

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This is it. This is the window. This was our opportunity to do this.

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This is one of those things that I've seen a lot of feedback about, well,

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couldn't you have used that to pay people more? We've talked extensively about our compensation over the last little while,

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and how does LMG spend money? We're above norms.

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If someone is not making as much as they would have liked here,

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then I've made it very clear in the past, then you should have a conversation about whatever that is, whatever reason that is.

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We've scaled our comp both individually and across the entire company very healthily,

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especially when you consider the overall macroeconomic conditions over the last few years.

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The numbers are just the numbers. And if there's someone who disagrees, then they might need to do some introspection at some point

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about why their number was their number. That's all.

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And I don't wish anybody ill will, really do want the best for everyone who's here,

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whether it's here, whether it's somewhere else. And that's totally fine, and that's totally healthy to move on and do something somewhere else as well.

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But in terms of sort of the cost here, it's not coming out of what we would have spent for HR at all.

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It's coming directly out of what would have normally been profit for the company.

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Okay.

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So when we calculate our profit,

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we're not going to compare this year to last year

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without taking it out, basically.

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Okay. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, and it's not a sustainable thing forever as well.

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I recognize that this is not something that we're going to be able to do forever.

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My uncle is not going to be able to do this forever. But while it's happening, it's been pretty cool to hang with him and do this together.

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So if something happens negatively because of company performance,

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the jet would have been deleted from that equation. So last year was a tricky year.

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I mean, we talked about this in our all hands recently. Q1 went really well.

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It ended up being a perfect storm, the shipstorm sale event,

03:27:54.720 --> 03:28:00.480
like practically saved the year last year. And then our projections for the rest of the year were actually looking really good,

03:28:00.480 --> 03:28:08.080
because we were way ahead due to shipstorm. And then what is it that corporate leaders like to call it?

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Headwinds? Oh, yeah. I mean, it's an apt metaphor right now.

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Headwinds hit, but the trigger had already been pulled.

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There was no real backing out at that point. Because we've talked on Wancho about how the channels are doing worse and stuff.

03:28:24.720 --> 03:28:29.600
Yep. But I mean, if you look at LTT channel over the last month-ish,

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it's been a bloodbath, to be completely honest.

03:28:34.480 --> 03:28:38.240
There was the MacBook video and the Linux video that just banged.

03:28:38.960 --> 03:28:45.840
And then Blotware did okay. And then TikTok Teptics did really well as well.

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Yep, that'll be a slow burn. That one will do really well in the long term.

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And then it started to just kind of like, the fire truck video was rough.

03:28:52.640 --> 03:28:59.760
And then we scraped a million a few times. And then this video was, and then this video,

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which like should have slapped, but nobody's building computers right now. So it didn't do that well.

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And then a long burn build guide thing.

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And then this video- So that build guide, that build guide I'm legitimately not worried about.

03:29:11.920 --> 03:29:16.800
Yeah, long burn, like I said. So let me give you the glass half full side of this.

03:29:16.800 --> 03:29:20.880
Okay. The fire truck videos were committed a long time ago.

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We knew they weren't going to be performers. We were fulfilling videos we committed to do.

03:29:25.760 --> 03:29:31.280
Okay. We knew. The, here, if you go, if you go down a little bit.

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Whoa, down. What the ones that are performing well have in common

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is that they're back to basics. They're back to what made LTT, LTT.

03:29:42.400 --> 03:29:47.200
Things like the TikTok hacks. That was remote one is a really cool video.

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I don't know if you've watched that. No, I watched the whole thing. I really like that. That's going to be a slow burn.

03:29:51.120 --> 03:29:55.040
It's going to do great. It's, it's not a product anybody's heard of. Like nobody knows what that is.

03:29:55.040 --> 03:29:59.120
I'm not expecting that to get a ton of views right on day one. Yeah. If you go down a little bit farther.

03:29:59.760 --> 03:30:01.920
Well, now we're getting to things that were very strong.

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Oh, I thought you started here. I, I, yeah, I started right here and I already pointed out.

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Yeah, you can, you can get, you can go back up.

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The stuff that's doing here, we'll go back here.

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So the stuff that's doing well still, like the, the Korean mall walk, for instance,

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is just like back to basic stuff and we're having

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a lot of conversations internally and we have been for a long time,

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but what we're finally doing is taking solid action on it

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to make our production process more agile, more spur of the moment.

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We're very scheduled. We've gotten very big and we've got a lot of people who

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you know, are racies, right? You know, who needs to be, who needs to be informed

03:30:49.600 --> 03:30:53.200
and who needs to take action and all of that stuff. Who's responsible?

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And that's all, you know, you know, it's all important stuff

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so that, you know, people's lives aren't just like running around, putting out fires all day, but it's made us less agile.

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And so that's, that's where that video that I wrote yesterday came from.

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It was just like, Hey, what does this workflow look like?

03:31:11.520 --> 03:31:14.880
Another thing that I've talked to the writing team about

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is I'm going to go back to writing more. We did one video a little while ago where the lab just did the,

03:31:21.120 --> 03:31:26.880
like the testing in the one pager and I just earphones in wrote it

03:31:26.880 --> 03:31:30.080
instead of having someone else write it and then I go into a script review.

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And that was for, shoot, what was that for? It was for, was it a CPU launch?

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Yeah, it was the 9850 X3D, right?

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I think so. Sounds right. Anyway, so the plan is to start doing two of those a week, like now,

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where it's just like back to, I don't know how to describe it

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other than just like back to what made LTT fun and, and, and, and feel like hands-on.

03:32:00.320 --> 03:32:03.360
We've talked about this quite a few times on Wayne show, but yeah, LTT's

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doesn't feel like it has its, its soul fully intact at the moment.

03:32:10.880 --> 03:32:15.120
Like there was, there was for a long time it was like where you went to be

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kind of up to date with what was going on in like the techie world.

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And I don't mean TechLinked because that's news. Yeah.

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I mean like kind of more than that.

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And it, it, yeah, I don't know. Wasn't fully fulfilling that for a while.

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And you know what? I think I allowed myself to stop having fun.

03:32:33.760 --> 03:32:37.280
Yeah. Tech got really depressing and boring. And you know what?

03:32:37.280 --> 03:32:43.440
Good News WAN Show is another like concrete action that we're taking to just get back to

03:32:43.440 --> 03:32:47.440
just having fun doing this. Yeah. Get back to having fun.

03:32:48.160 --> 03:32:51.280
Yeah. There is, yeah, there's, there's some stuff.

03:32:51.280 --> 03:32:56.240
It's, it's just, I don't have any ownership in LTT.

03:32:56.240 --> 03:32:59.280
I don't have any visibility in the finances and all that kind of stuff.

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But there have been actions taken because of low company performance.

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So it's, it's a little tough, I guess.

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But I guess there's separation and jet expenses and that.

03:33:21.280 --> 03:33:27.920
Yeah. Okay. All right. Yep. I mean, I made it really clear in how does LMG spend money that we expected to get back to

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closer to 20% and that's with that separated out.

03:33:31.520 --> 03:33:42.560
Right. So that's with that peel. That's with it completely out. Yeah. And so realistically right now, temporarily, what would have been, what would have been my take?

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I'm just like, well, I'm going to use it on this gamer jet.

03:33:45.920 --> 03:33:53.920
We're going to milk it for some content. We're going to use it to make travel way more comfortable for me and the team that is going

03:33:53.920 --> 03:33:57.280
to do this stuff. And hopefully we're going to unlock some pretty cool content.

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Because we can go in and out of non-major hubs now.

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Yeah. And we can do it at times that are not necessarily normal times.

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So, you know, a perfect example of something that I'd love to be able to do more is,

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do you remember that video I did going down and touring Kenton's tech house?

03:34:16.960 --> 03:34:24.800
Yes. I'd love to be able to do more stuff like that. So that's the kind of thing that, you know, if you were sending a, like a content suggestion,

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as long as we can find a sponsor to make it make sense, because I can tell you right now,

03:34:28.560 --> 03:34:33.840
just a normal, like ad insertion, like we would typically do in our video is not,

03:34:33.840 --> 03:34:38.720
is not going to cover it. Like we'd have to be able to, we'd have to be able to make the economics if it makes sense.

03:34:38.720 --> 03:34:43.680
But we'd love to be able to do more of like this kind of, this kind of stuff.

03:34:43.680 --> 03:34:46.400
Yeah, yeah. That was cool.

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But we can't do stuff like that if it means day of travel, day of shooting.

03:34:52.720 --> 03:34:56.560
Oh no, we missed the cutoff for the last flight back.

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Day of travel again. I can't be out of office for three days to make one video.

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It just doesn't work. Right.

03:35:03.680 --> 03:35:10.080
You've, you've described this like to me at least when we were discussing it pretty early on,

03:35:10.080 --> 03:35:12.160
you called it a life phase.

03:35:13.120 --> 03:35:21.760
Yeah. Which I thought was interesting wording. I, it's like, it's trying to make it fun again.

03:35:21.760 --> 03:35:28.560
I want to, I want to try to, I want to try to make it fun again. I want to try to, you know, we're always trying to do something different that no one else can do.

03:35:30.000 --> 03:35:34.480
I don't think anyone else in the tech YouTuber space would have the connections with my uncle

03:35:34.480 --> 03:35:37.200
in order to be able to do something like this. Sure.

03:35:38.880 --> 03:35:42.880
Literally. And so, you know, we always want to, we always want to level it up a bit.

03:35:42.880 --> 03:35:46.080
We always want to do something, do something different.

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If it ultimately doesn't work, what I said in the video is, is true.

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I've had, I've had a lot of people question this, the zero dollar math.

03:35:54.640 --> 03:35:59.120
We will be able to get out of this thing for very near what we spent on it.

03:35:59.120 --> 03:36:03.840
I'm very confident in that. Do you want to talk about one of the things that is reducing expenses

03:36:04.560 --> 03:36:09.840
because of the, that contract thing? I want to speak somewhat vaguely, but hopefully I can get it across to you.

03:36:10.560 --> 03:36:14.720
A maintenance portion of it that is like not being paid intentionally?

03:36:15.760 --> 03:36:19.120
Uh, no, that's probably too far in the bolts.

03:36:19.760 --> 03:36:28.080
Sure. I mean, it's not, it's not a secret. Basically, engines can be on service plans that effectively are their insurance,

03:36:29.200 --> 03:36:33.280
but insurance where you know the thing will die and you know when it will die.

03:36:34.160 --> 03:36:38.560
So basically it's just a payment plan. So you go on a payment plan for your engine

03:36:38.560 --> 03:36:45.760
and then when it reaches the end of its service life, you've effectively paid for the work of having it refurbished.

03:36:46.400 --> 03:36:51.600
And that's what that plane just went through. So because they're sitting at like zero hours,

03:36:52.480 --> 03:36:55.520
effectively the scrappy, the scrappy way to do it

03:36:55.520 --> 03:37:02.080
is to not enroll it on one of those programs because those will cost hundreds of dollars per flight hour per engine

03:37:02.080 --> 03:37:04.480
in order to, to pay for.

03:37:05.200 --> 03:37:09.360
But if this was something where you were just going to run it into the ground anyway,

03:37:09.360 --> 03:37:13.680
then you can roll the dice. And if one of them happens to fail, which it probably won't,

03:37:13.680 --> 03:37:16.400
because it's in great near new condition,

03:37:17.360 --> 03:37:20.960
then you're stuck with a big bill. So that's the other thing is it's insurance,

03:37:20.960 --> 03:37:23.680
because if it dies early, then they also cover it there.

03:37:25.440 --> 03:37:29.760
So right now we are not enrolled in an engine service plan.

03:37:29.760 --> 03:37:32.880
Yeah. It's not a safety issue.

03:37:32.880 --> 03:37:36.880
If you flip it, then they can decide to do that.

03:37:36.880 --> 03:37:40.880
Yeah. Or we could buy in, if we're informed at the time when it comes to flip it,

03:37:40.880 --> 03:37:48.720
that it's better to have it enrolled. Are you, are you worried about the cost of jet fuel spiking?

03:37:49.680 --> 03:37:54.240
Not just in regards to your own usage, but in regards to your ability to flip it?

03:37:55.760 --> 03:38:02.320
Honestly, no. I suspect that in the, in the time scale that we're going to be doing content

03:38:02.320 --> 03:38:06.000
and, and using this thing. The straight's going to open again.

03:38:06.000 --> 03:38:10.960
I suspect the straight will be open. Yeah. Got it. And, and the oil will flow, so to speak.

03:38:10.960 --> 03:38:13.760
Yeah. The spice. A little flowing spice.

03:38:15.280 --> 03:38:21.120
Did you see any, did you see any more sort of interesting questions?

03:38:21.120 --> 03:38:29.040
I've, I've been really busy answering. I'm, I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to be as thorough as I can right now.

03:38:29.040 --> 03:38:32.400
So I've been pretty focused on, you know, answering your questions.

03:38:32.400 --> 03:38:36.560
Toffridge is saying, can you talk about the timeline for flipping?

03:38:36.560 --> 03:38:42.720
Sure. Yeah. So just with, you know, the age of everyone involved,

03:38:42.720 --> 03:38:46.720
the idea that I had in the back of my brain was one to three years.

03:38:47.600 --> 03:38:50.080
And probably closer to the, the middle of that.

03:38:51.120 --> 03:38:53.920
And you've had it for, I don't know, half a year now?

03:38:54.480 --> 03:39:02.160
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And so depreciation curve is this birds from 1990.

03:39:02.160 --> 03:39:09.760
Yeah. Right. So something of this class, like this kind of range, this kind of passenger capacity

03:39:09.760 --> 03:39:17.120
that's brand new today would be, oh man, like 35 to 45 mil or so.

03:39:18.480 --> 03:39:21.360
We are not there anymore. We're down here.

03:39:22.080 --> 03:39:25.920
And what's nice about the depreciation curve is it's, it's very much,

03:39:25.920 --> 03:39:30.400
it's kind of like a car in that a lot of the depreciation happens really fast.

03:39:30.400 --> 03:39:36.800
And then over time, if you buy a 1990 Honda Civic today and you sell it in two years,

03:39:36.800 --> 03:39:42.480
it will probably be worth as a still functioning vehicle that the doors still roll up and down,

03:39:43.200 --> 03:39:46.800
very similar to what you paid for it, because it's already very old.

03:39:47.520 --> 03:39:51.200
Unlike a car, this has decades of maintenance records.

03:39:51.200 --> 03:39:53.920
And we know that it was taken care of extremely well.

03:39:54.800 --> 03:40:00.240
So we, we, we have solid assurance and it just had a new engine put in, you know?

03:40:00.240 --> 03:40:05.920
So we have solid assurance that it was in, it was at the, at the high end of the bottom

03:40:05.920 --> 03:40:11.280
of that depreciation curve, meaning it has some room to go down a little bit more before

03:40:11.280 --> 03:40:20.320
we will actually lose, lose. There's also some questions about can you actually make it a, I'm paraphrasing a little

03:40:21.120 --> 03:40:24.720
bit and leading you a little bit because I know the answer, but can you actually make

03:40:24.720 --> 03:40:27.840
it like a tech jet? How is it going to become a gamer plane?

03:40:28.400 --> 03:40:32.640
So there's going to be limits in terms of what we can do, like really hard limits.

03:40:32.640 --> 03:40:40.320
That was something that very early in the exploration stage of, hey, is this, is this feasible?

03:40:40.320 --> 03:40:45.440
Like, is this, is this something that we could just crazy like do for a bit and then,

03:40:45.520 --> 03:40:49.120
and then not do anymore, but, but make some cool videos.

03:40:49.120 --> 03:40:54.400
And like we found out that you pretty much can't, you can't screw anything into it.

03:40:55.120 --> 03:40:58.800
No bolts, no screws, adhesives though.

03:41:00.720 --> 03:41:04.800
So if we were to do like a, like a sky high land party or something like that,

03:41:05.440 --> 03:41:10.320
where we would get into the tech details, you know, we always, I always tell the team

03:41:10.320 --> 03:41:15.120
that we need to have learning outcomes. We need to have tech tips, no matter what the video is, no matter what it's about.

03:41:15.520 --> 03:41:21.520
So what we'd be getting into there is realistically how light and how low power

03:41:21.520 --> 03:41:28.560
can we make our systems? Because we're going to be, it's an older bird, 1990, doesn't have like a super robust

03:41:28.560 --> 03:41:34.960
auxiliary power system to run, you know, your high spec, you know, desktop gaming PC in the cabin.

03:41:35.920 --> 03:41:38.560
So how light can we get everything?

03:41:39.120 --> 03:41:42.480
How low power can we get everything? Primarily low power, yeah.

03:41:42.480 --> 03:41:47.600
We can't bring a giant jackery with us because even though this was something that like blew

03:41:47.600 --> 03:41:51.760
my mind, I can totally take a sword onto the plane with me because there's no security.

03:41:52.640 --> 03:41:56.560
I can't just take any old like giant battery bank that I want.

03:41:56.560 --> 03:42:00.240
You're still subject to like FAA guidelines as far as that goes.

03:42:00.240 --> 03:42:09.600
That kind of makes sense, I think. Totally makes sense. So if we're bound by just like compliant battery banks and the one outlet we have from the galley,

03:42:10.560 --> 03:42:16.160
how big of a land can we have? Like I could see that being kind of an interesting video, but you know, realistically,

03:42:16.160 --> 03:42:22.240
that's not like the first thing I'm going to want to do. I think Elijah, I'm just going to be straight up with you guys.

03:42:22.240 --> 03:42:28.240
He just wanted to write it. And I was like, okay, if you can contrive a video that gives you an excuse to write it,

03:42:28.240 --> 03:42:30.720
then you can come on the next trip we're taking.

03:42:31.760 --> 03:42:37.040
And he pitched one the next day and it was pretty much building the high, building it,

03:42:37.040 --> 03:42:45.520
building a PC while high. So I'm going to say, I feel like you would just go really solid battery life laptops

03:42:46.160 --> 03:42:50.000
if you weren't trying to make a fun video. That'd be the smart way.

03:42:50.000 --> 03:42:57.760
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, totally. But Elijah, and we're not going to just fly for that because that would be crazy.

03:42:57.760 --> 03:43:03.200
But basically the extra cost is just going to be Elijah's per diem and like hotel.

03:43:04.240 --> 03:43:07.520
And then he's going to ride along to something that we were already doing.

03:43:07.520 --> 03:43:11.120
Sure. With that had a sponsor and stuff. So, so that'll be one.

03:43:11.120 --> 03:43:16.160
But the one that I'm actually most excited to do and Dan, I would like you to join me for this.

03:43:17.200 --> 03:43:21.360
It's going to be a lot of fun. It has an in-flight entertainment system.

03:43:22.960 --> 03:43:25.520
I didn't really touch on it in the video with Elijah.

03:43:26.560 --> 03:43:30.880
It is the worst piece of dog that I have ever seen in my life.

03:43:30.880 --> 03:43:34.880
It is the worst implementation, execution.

03:43:34.880 --> 03:43:39.120
You can look at the animals. It's so bad.

03:43:39.120 --> 03:43:42.480
Sort of. It's so. Yeah, kind of. It's so bad.

03:43:42.480 --> 03:43:45.840
And I just, Dan, I'd like you to experience it with me.

03:43:45.840 --> 03:43:49.600
And then I'd like to figure out if there's a way for us to,

03:43:50.400 --> 03:43:53.520
without putting in any screws, fix it.

03:43:53.520 --> 03:43:58.320
You couldn't use adhesive to put a screen in it. We could duct tape an iPad to the screen.

03:43:58.320 --> 03:44:03.600
I think we could figure something out. I feel like with Dan's innovation and.

03:44:03.600 --> 03:44:06.800
That sounds like an intro. Pankrats wants in too, apparently. Nice.

03:44:06.800 --> 03:44:12.480
So, so. Hell yeah, Pankrats and Dan. Yeah, with Pankrats and Dan, I feel like we could do something with it.

03:44:12.480 --> 03:44:16.640
I feel like your intro is that you duct tape an iPad to the, to the screen.

03:44:16.640 --> 03:44:20.480
That's not bad. And this is Dan's idea. And then. No, that was my solution.

03:44:20.480 --> 03:44:24.880
And that sounds like a much better thing that I came up with. And then you go, and then you go like,

03:44:25.920 --> 03:44:28.560
okay, well, this is my solution. What do you guys want to do?

03:44:29.440 --> 03:44:32.960
That sounds fun. Yeah. So I'm very excited for that video.

03:44:32.960 --> 03:44:36.240
There was a question. I hope I didn't lose it.

03:44:36.240 --> 03:44:41.040
Let me go find it. Can you say anything about why the industry is so secretive about sale price?

03:44:42.320 --> 03:44:49.040
No. I had a few people post that it's BS that there could be any kind of NDA on the sale price.

03:44:50.080 --> 03:44:57.600
News to me from, but I'm just going, I'm just going based on what our lawyer,

03:44:57.600 --> 03:45:00.720
because there's no way that you buy something like this without a lawyer involved.

03:45:00.720 --> 03:45:05.920
Our lawyer told my uncle, told me is that this agreement or no,

03:45:05.920 --> 03:45:09.920
my lawyer told my uncle told Yvonne told me. So something could have gotten missed.

03:45:09.920 --> 03:45:14.800
But my understanding is that whether it's actually in black and white or the agreement,

03:45:15.440 --> 03:45:19.440
or whether it's just gentlemanly conduct,

03:45:21.360 --> 03:45:24.880
it is not something that is disclosed who you bought it from.

03:45:24.880 --> 03:45:28.400
Even though you can like look up who, who owned it. You can literally look it up,

03:45:29.280 --> 03:45:33.040
but you don't talk about who owned it or what you paid for it.

03:45:33.040 --> 03:45:38.960
And you see this a lot, like if you were to, if you were to go on here and go Falcon 900B,

03:45:39.760 --> 03:45:41.760
and by the way, like how wild is it?

03:45:43.920 --> 03:45:49.360
How wild is it that like for how low volume this world is,

03:45:49.920 --> 03:45:52.320
that it's like this organized and there's like,

03:45:52.960 --> 03:45:56.080
it's like this easy to just browse airplanes. Yeah.

03:45:56.080 --> 03:46:01.040
Anyway. I looked it up. There's a lot of this. I try to ignore the, yeah.

03:46:01.040 --> 03:46:06.560
Call for price, call for price, call for price. And this is on older planes that, you know,

03:46:06.560 --> 03:46:10.960
realistically have fewer people that are trying to protect,

03:46:10.960 --> 03:46:13.120
you know, the actual worth of,

03:46:14.480 --> 03:46:18.000
and most people are still not disclosing a sale price, which I've never understood.

03:46:18.000 --> 03:46:22.080
Commercial real estate is like that too. Call for price. Why don't you just tell me the price?

03:46:22.080 --> 03:46:24.880
Then I know if I have to call you. Why don't we just not waste anybody's time?

03:46:25.680 --> 03:46:28.400
Seems pretty smart to me. Sir, what are you going to say?

03:46:29.440 --> 03:46:35.760
I Googled it, tried to ignore the AI summary, but the AI summary did say that sales of private jets

03:46:35.760 --> 03:46:39.840
and business aircraft very often involve non-disclosure agreements. And then I found this other one,

03:46:40.640 --> 03:46:44.720
which is some attorney website that says that prior

03:46:44.720 --> 03:46:48.000
to entering into discussions surrounding the sale and purchase of an aircraft,

03:46:48.000 --> 03:46:52.960
the party should sign a non-disclosure agreement by which they agree to keep all shared information confidential.

03:46:53.760 --> 03:46:58.960
Does that include the price? I don't know, but I don't feel like breaking an NDA today.

03:46:58.960 --> 03:47:01.680
Yeah, sure. So it's really that simple.

03:47:04.800 --> 03:47:09.600
Don't know. I think that's it for questions that I've seen in chat.

03:47:10.320 --> 03:47:15.680
Okay, cool. Yeah, it was one of those videos that I was like

03:47:16.640 --> 03:47:25.520
sitting there ready to push publish and I was like, But overall, the reaction has actually been not that bad,

03:47:26.080 --> 03:47:28.080
surprisingly. Like there's...

03:47:32.720 --> 03:47:38.080
Sorry, someone mentioned that the ISS might have passed

03:47:38.080 --> 03:47:41.760
the midpoint and my cares about the plane vanished.

03:47:43.360 --> 03:47:46.400
So I'm not there yet. Okay, whoops.

03:47:46.400 --> 03:47:49.360
No one cares about ground craft. Yeah, yeah.

03:47:49.920 --> 03:47:53.360
Why don't you want a spaceship? Inside the atmosphere. Freaking loser.

03:47:53.360 --> 03:47:57.040
In the atmosphere, like some kind of chode. Yo, it did.

03:48:00.640 --> 03:48:03.680
Just a bit, but it did. That is so cool.

03:48:03.680 --> 03:48:07.200
How fast are we moving? I mean, you can see it on the little slower.

03:48:07.200 --> 03:48:10.720
On the moon over there, just watching the numbers tick down. That's crazy.

03:48:10.720 --> 03:48:12.880
Yeah. Just watching them tick down like seconds.

03:48:14.320 --> 03:48:17.680
It's weird. It's so fast. You forget how fast everything's moving.

03:48:18.000 --> 03:48:20.880
It's crazy. Wow.

03:48:21.680 --> 03:48:25.280
At the bottom, you can play the expected trajectory. Is it this?

03:48:27.440 --> 03:48:30.560
Nope. At the bottom, you can play the expected trajectory.

03:48:32.560 --> 03:48:33.840
Oh, there we go. Play.

03:48:39.840 --> 03:48:44.560
So cool, like the gravity stuff. And then they did the math wrong and they're just into deep space.

03:48:48.240 --> 03:48:50.320
Hopefully, hopefully that's actually funny.

03:48:52.000 --> 03:48:55.520
NASA tracker says it's not. Oh, okay. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

03:48:55.520 --> 03:48:57.520
They can go clean the James Webb.

03:48:59.680 --> 03:49:00.480
Unity. Hello.

03:49:14.480 --> 03:49:18.960
No. So, okay. Distance from Earth, distance to moon.

03:49:18.960 --> 03:49:22.960
Oh, no. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Is this updating in real time though? Oh, oh, yeah.

03:49:22.960 --> 03:49:26.480
Looks like it. Looks like it. Okay. All right. Interesting.

03:49:26.480 --> 03:49:30.320
Well, let's see how far it can get while we do after dark.

03:49:31.120 --> 03:49:34.800
Time for some checkout messages. Sure thing. It's weird that they disagree.

03:49:36.000 --> 03:49:39.120
Hey, LLD. I'm loving HexOS so far.

03:49:39.120 --> 03:49:44.080
What is a good free or lifetime license PC backup program you would recommend?

03:49:44.080 --> 03:49:46.000
I mean, isn't it included in Windows these days?

03:49:47.760 --> 03:49:50.960
Also- One drive? Here's a crazy, here's a-

03:49:50.960 --> 03:49:54.480
No, no, no, no, no. Like the Windows backup and recovery thing.

03:49:55.280 --> 03:50:01.680
Here, oh my God. Oh, like that type of PC backup. Paintgrass just said Windows backup has become horrible.

03:50:01.680 --> 03:50:05.040
I'm not surprised. It's like everything else on Windows. Okay.

03:50:05.040 --> 03:50:08.160
Here's my question. Hear me out. Hear me out. Why?

03:50:10.000 --> 03:50:15.760
You have HexOS. You have a NAS. Just don't store anything on your computer at all.

03:50:15.760 --> 03:50:19.760
Either with a separate drive or with a partition. You put all your games there.

03:50:20.560 --> 03:50:22.880
And then like, dude, I don't know, man.

03:50:23.760 --> 03:50:27.200
Maybe this is just me, but setting up a new Windows for me takes like

03:50:28.800 --> 03:50:33.760
half an hour, maybe. Where like setting up a new phone sucks.

03:50:34.400 --> 03:50:41.200
Like that is so- That takes days. Tidious, yeah. But setting up a Windows computer these days, I feel like is really fast.

03:50:42.560 --> 03:50:45.920
Apparently you can still use Windows 7 backup. That's nuts.

03:50:46.640 --> 03:50:53.520
Isn't that like a separate program? I've never done it. I've always just fresh installed and then copied files on Windows 7 backup.

03:50:53.520 --> 03:50:57.440
Let's go. Windows 7 backup. I'm so happy that it searched it.

03:50:57.440 --> 03:51:01.040
Shut up. I'm so happy that it searched it, dude. Look at this.

03:51:01.040 --> 03:51:06.720
How about, okay, this is the most BS, BS.

03:51:06.720 --> 03:51:09.840
Confirm and set later. How about no?

03:51:09.840 --> 03:51:16.960
Where is my no button? It's like seriously, this has like date rape vibes.

03:51:16.960 --> 03:51:20.560
You also can't alter for it. Confirm or do it later.

03:51:20.560 --> 03:51:24.480
No, how about no, no, no, no.

03:51:24.480 --> 03:51:29.440
Also forcing this huge pop-up is really annoying. It could be like a little banner at the bottom or something.

03:51:32.640 --> 03:51:37.120
Immediately annoying the heck out of people the second they open your browser thing is

03:51:37.120 --> 03:51:42.000
not the way to get people to use it. How do I, how do I download it?

03:51:44.160 --> 03:51:47.440
Oh, okay. Backup and restore Windows 7.

03:51:50.400 --> 03:51:52.480
I don't, I don't see this anymore. I don't see this.

03:51:53.600 --> 03:51:58.080
I don't see this tech tip anymore. This is from December 2024 though.

03:51:58.080 --> 03:52:04.160
It's not that long ago. All right. Well, that might be a thing, but it's not something that I can find immediately.

03:52:04.160 --> 03:52:07.920
So, man, a good, a good backup program.

03:52:09.920 --> 03:52:14.880
I always really liked, shoot, what's that imaging program that I always used to use to,

03:52:15.920 --> 03:52:22.640
Paragon, is Paragon still good? Admittedly, I have not, I have not used it in a long time.

03:52:22.640 --> 03:52:27.840
That's a throwback. Yeah, Paragon used to be pretty based.

03:52:28.800 --> 03:52:32.320
They used to have pretty good like data recovery stuff too, didn't they?

03:52:32.320 --> 03:52:36.960
Oh, I use their data recovery stuff. Yeah. Their machine comparison.

03:52:36.960 --> 03:52:42.560
The data stuff, stuff's great. I, I think I use that for trying to find my Bitcoin wallet.

03:52:43.440 --> 03:52:46.880
Just going through like, so many old partitions.

03:52:46.880 --> 03:52:51.360
It was super useful, but it's pretty old. Clearly, and a little bit.

03:52:51.360 --> 03:52:55.360
Oh no, they actually do give me pricing. And perpetual. Perpetual license.

03:52:56.480 --> 03:52:59.840
Okay. Based, based, based. Is Paragon still good?

03:52:59.840 --> 03:53:03.520
If someone tells me, yes, Paragon is still good, then I'm ready to recommend it because

03:53:03.520 --> 03:53:06.400
I've been really happy with it in the times that I have used it.

03:53:07.680 --> 03:53:10.400
They didn't find my Bitcoin wallet, but they sure gave me hope.

03:53:13.920 --> 03:53:15.200
Nice. That might be worse.

03:53:19.120 --> 03:53:19.680
Never mind.

03:53:22.640 --> 03:53:25.520
Hey, at least, at least I might buy a Linus coin.

03:53:26.480 --> 03:53:30.560
Maybe, I'm going to miss that too. Nobody seems to hate Paragon.

03:53:31.120 --> 03:53:35.600
So, that's a huge defense in current year.

03:53:35.600 --> 03:53:43.760
That is a pretty huge defense in current year. That's a good point. Okay. I'm, I'm going to say that, hey, hey, look, they have a community addition for free.

03:53:43.760 --> 03:53:44.720
You can at least try it.

03:53:48.000 --> 03:53:49.920
Like the mass effect. All right, cool.

03:53:52.240 --> 03:53:56.160
Okay. Let's see what we have more. Hey, L, L and D.

03:53:56.160 --> 03:53:59.200
I'm really happy with the blank T quality.

03:53:59.200 --> 03:54:01.840
Order 10 of them last time. Oh, okay. Wow, cool.

03:54:02.480 --> 03:54:07.520
I hope to get a good coin to buy some more. Question for Linus, have you continued vibe coding?

03:54:07.520 --> 03:54:14.480
How did it go? I haven't. I mean, I don't want to spoil the conclusion for the vibe coding challenge, which is still

03:54:14.480 --> 03:54:18.160
progressing. In fact, you guys filmed some stuff this week. I was told that you had continued.

03:54:18.160 --> 03:54:23.680
Oh, I did continue it. Okay. And I tried to continue it,

03:54:24.400 --> 03:54:28.720
but I ran into some walls that I'm sure we're going to talk about as part of the video.

03:54:28.720 --> 03:54:35.200
Okay. That's interesting because I was, okay. I mean, we can talk about that part of the video, but I heard that you had continued it

03:54:35.200 --> 03:54:39.840
and we're still continuing it. And I was very stunned that you had not hit the walls.

03:54:39.840 --> 03:54:44.000
Oh, the walls have been hit. Okay. Hard. That makes a lot more sense.

03:54:44.000 --> 03:54:48.000
The walls are like halfway between my nose and the back of my head.

03:54:48.000 --> 03:54:52.080
Yeah. How flat my face is against the wall. That makes way more sense.

03:54:52.640 --> 03:54:56.400
I mean, I'm almost 40. I hit the wall a few years ago.

03:54:56.400 --> 03:55:01.440
You know what I'm saying? There's a good salt and pepper era for men.

03:55:02.480 --> 03:55:02.960
Yeah.

03:55:05.920 --> 03:55:09.280
Maybe whatever you tell yourself. Yeah.

03:55:09.280 --> 03:55:14.720
I'm not worried about it. I feel like for the Silver Fox, you have to be tall.

03:55:14.720 --> 03:55:18.320
I feel like shorter guys can be good looking when they're young,

03:55:19.040 --> 03:55:23.280
but I feel like to pull off the Silver Fox, you like actually have to be tall.

03:55:23.280 --> 03:55:26.960
You're mostly a man on camera. People can't tell you where unless you're standing next to other people.

03:55:26.960 --> 03:55:30.560
I think you do have to be tall. You're right. You just got to be more aggressive.

03:55:30.560 --> 03:55:33.600
You get some pumps. More aggressive? About, okay.

03:55:33.600 --> 03:55:37.440
You know, you got to be more aggressive about standing on Apple boxes.

03:55:37.440 --> 03:55:41.840
Oh, Apple boxes. I don't think those beneath you ever talk about Apple boxes.

03:55:42.640 --> 03:55:48.720
Apple boxes, jeans, boots with this. Dead cat with the fur.

03:55:50.960 --> 03:55:54.000
Can we even still call them that? Who knows? Yeah, I think so. I think you could still call it a dead cat.

03:55:54.000 --> 03:55:58.240
What do they call if it's not called that? I genuinely don't know. Windsock.

03:55:58.240 --> 03:56:02.480
Microphone fluff. Windsock. Microphone fluff with the fur.

03:56:03.440 --> 03:56:07.600
It doesn't have the same ring to it. Really doesn't. All the cameras are pointing at her.

03:56:08.000 --> 03:56:13.360
Hey there, Dalilu.

03:56:13.360 --> 03:56:18.720
As an aspiring designer of repairable products, how does one sell the slack-jawed on them

03:56:18.720 --> 03:56:24.880
without having them come across as gimmicky, aimed at die-hards or otherwise not quote-unquote normal?

03:56:25.920 --> 03:56:30.000
Most consumers will not actually buy something for that reason.

03:56:30.000 --> 03:56:36.240
So you just have to make it really good. And then your conviction of things should be repairable

03:56:36.240 --> 03:56:39.360
is just going to have to exist and make it a repairable object.

03:56:40.160 --> 03:56:44.640
You will have some very loud people on your side

03:56:44.640 --> 03:56:49.040
if you make it repairable, which is awesome, but that is basically just marketing.

03:56:49.600 --> 03:56:56.160
And their message is going to have to effectively be, this is a really good thing to buy,

03:56:56.160 --> 03:57:00.800
and also it's repairable, to actually get through to the other people who will actually buy it.

03:57:00.800 --> 03:57:05.840
And here's a hard truth. You can swallow it, take it with water.

03:57:07.200 --> 03:57:10.160
It is gimmicky. It is aimed at die-hards.

03:57:12.240 --> 03:57:15.360
It is. Repairable stuff is gimmicky? No, literally that's what a gimmick is.

03:57:15.360 --> 03:57:18.960
It's like for most people who don't care,

03:57:18.960 --> 03:57:22.560
I'm agreeing with you, where for most people it is gimmicky,

03:57:23.120 --> 03:57:26.480
where they ultimately are not going to repair it and it's not important to them.

03:57:26.480 --> 03:57:31.920
It just needs to be a good one. I would argue that that I don't agree.

03:57:32.640 --> 03:57:36.720
Well, okay, I'm going to look it up. Does gimmick mean not meaningful?

03:57:39.680 --> 03:57:43.120
A trick or device intended to attract attention,

03:57:43.120 --> 03:57:47.520
publicity or business, and I'm seeing that it often has negative connotations,

03:57:47.520 --> 03:57:51.040
like it's not actually legit, or it's not actually a benefit.

03:57:51.040 --> 03:57:55.760
Then that's not fair. But it's definitely intended to attract attention, publicity or business.

03:57:55.760 --> 03:58:00.480
And so that was what I didn't, I, yeah, okay, I yield.

03:58:01.440 --> 03:58:06.560
Because even if I would argue that I think a lot of people might buy a repairable device

03:58:06.560 --> 03:58:10.320
that would never repair it under any circumstance, I think that is a fair statement.

03:58:10.320 --> 03:58:14.880
But in my opinion, that's still completely awesome

03:58:14.880 --> 03:58:17.920
because the second that person doesn't have that device anymore,

03:58:17.920 --> 03:58:21.440
it's still repairable by someone else. I'm not saying it's not awesome.

03:58:21.440 --> 03:58:26.000
What I was, I tried and failed to agree with you,

03:58:26.000 --> 03:58:30.240
that for most of the buyers, this will be perceived as just a gimmick.

03:58:30.480 --> 03:58:33.840
Because they don't actually care. And then it just needs to be a good device.

03:58:33.840 --> 03:58:38.480
I just, I'm just fighting on the word gimmick. But yeah, I think most people

03:58:38.480 --> 03:58:41.840
aren't actually going to value that significantly.

03:58:41.840 --> 03:58:47.280
But if it's just a good device or can do cool things, like most people that I know of

03:58:48.240 --> 03:58:50.080
that have been interested in frameworks,

03:58:51.280 --> 03:58:55.440
the repairability side of the framework is not the major purchasing factor.

03:58:55.440 --> 03:58:59.520
Can you bring it back to money somehow? Like can you, can you, can you

03:58:59.520 --> 03:59:04.640
Cost of long-term cost of ownership being lower? TCO, like can you, can you sell it based on that maybe?

03:59:04.640 --> 03:59:10.160
I don't know what your device is. Which is totally legit. Yeah, like, but that's how you get a business's attention

03:59:10.160 --> 03:59:14.400
is like, what's my total cost of ownership, right? You could also argue, like if this is something

03:59:14.400 --> 03:59:19.600
that would be used in like a work scenario, for example,

03:59:19.600 --> 03:59:22.400
if it's repairable, that might mean less downtime.

03:59:23.280 --> 03:59:28.560
Because if another one breaks, and the only way to get the thing working is to fully replace it, you might not have one on hand.

03:59:28.560 --> 03:59:32.320
But if you have a few little parts on hand, or somebody who's handy available there,

03:59:32.320 --> 03:59:38.560
who might be able to make something to, to replace it, and it's highly repairable, and thus more able to be done,

03:59:38.560 --> 03:59:42.880
then that could be a huge selling point for certain businesses or people out in the field

03:59:42.880 --> 03:59:46.320
that might not be able to get back to a workshop very easily,

03:59:46.320 --> 03:59:50.160
but they might be able to swap a part. And if you're, if you have a, you know,

03:59:50.160 --> 03:59:54.240
high repairability score or whatever, that might be a lot more viable when you're out.

03:59:55.200 --> 03:59:59.600
Think of like John Deere. You really need to be able to repair that thing yourself.

03:59:59.600 --> 04:00:03.120
You really should be able to. A freaking John Deere, dude.

04:00:04.320 --> 04:00:07.680
Big jerks. But yeah, I think, I think,

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sell the utility of it being repairable instead of just saying that it's repairable.

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Because to a lot of people, I think that doesn't have a lot of value. It's, it's interesting.

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It's like the same. There's a bunch of companies have had this realization, like shipping with like environmentally friendly packaging.

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Doesn't move the needle on sales. But you, you know, people that care about that,

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which is care about that enough to make purchasing decisions

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is actually a very, very small amount of people. But those people might be pretty loud about it,

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which might get your name out there more. They might advocate for your brand.

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Yeah. But then it's still, their application of your brand still needs to include

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that your thing is good or else the other people aren't going to buy it.

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So you need both. You can't just go with one. See what just happened?

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My computer just restarted. It was broadcast message system will restart.

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What the heck? Sorry. On the subject of packaging, packaging is one that like drives me crazy

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because it doesn't actually cost that much more to,

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in many cases we've found, use packaging that is recyclable or biodegradable.

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It seems like a lot of times it's an active choice

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and it's the unnecessariness that offends me,

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like how easily they could just not.

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And I get that most consumers won't care, but like it's really easy, except when it isn't.

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You know why we have to have plastic bags on the backpacks?

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Container leaking. Not just leaking, but the high humidity and the salt water

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and the ocean and just like generally,

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it like scuffing anything that isn't sealed. Because as far as my understanding goes,

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a lot of packaging stuff is because of

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like just the chaotic environments, the temperature fluctuations even of containers on ships.

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Because they'll go through some like pretty intense

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hot and cold cycles even. And yeah.

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Yes, some of the changes on packaging in the US warehouse

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were miscommunications.

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Tordirk, to say the least.

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There were some really weird things going on, but we're working it out with our logistics partner there.

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It should be pretty much resolved at this point.

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Did my OS just freaking spontaneously combust?

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Oh, no, there it is. It's coming back. Did you see what happened?

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No. Which machine is this?

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It freaking did.

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Hold on. Our OSED is broken.

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Something. Okay, no. Kubuntu is booting now.

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What the heck? Cursed.

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It's never done that before. In the entire like month plus of the Linux challenge now,

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it hasn't done that. That's cursed. If you want to fix it, just put it on this side of the table.

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No, no, keep it away from Luke. Why?

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Because the cars, it'll get too fresh and minty. No, I'm immune.

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I'm fine. I don't think I've ever seen this blue glowing Kubuntu though.

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Or maybe it just has never been up long enough in order to glow blue like this before moving past.

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Oh yeah. Oh, there was a thing in the corner there. I missed it. I saw it for a sec too.

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There's a cursor thing now too. There sure is.

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There's a mouse cursor. I see a mouse cursor. Different kind of cursor.

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What's going on, man?

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It's funky. I don't get it, man.

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Razer sitting here as the sponsor, the way I'm sure being like,

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our laptop working perfectly. A couple of weeks ago,

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the fan might have been cranked because of Windows updates. Yeah, that's on Microsoft though.

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It took so long to pull that out. This isn't a Soos or whatever that laptop is.

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Still a cursor. Oh, the cursor just went away.

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Is that good or bad? Move it.

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Nope. Okay. It's just black now. Yeah. I wonder if my battery,

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you know what, maybe my battery just died. I didn't think it would because it was fully charged,

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but we have been sitting here for, oh my god, four hours.

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Okay, where's a plug here? Oh, Dan, did you put this plug in here just for me?

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Yes. Yes. When you heard me talk about never having a plug here,

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it's so nice, Dan. I mean, there was one the whole time.

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You are the best Daniel Besser who has ever produced the Wancho.

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Thank you.

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Shall we continue? We shall. Okay. I think my battery might have just died.

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Sure. I hope. We'll figure it out. Linus Curse.

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G'day, LLD. Can I get an understanding on if it is Linus,

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his stylus slash wardrobe or head of marketing's fault

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that he keeps teasing me with the black hoodie with the lime green

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highlights that is no longer sold?

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Okay, this was what I actually needed my laptop for because I pulled up a shower thoughts email that I sent to Bridget

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who is our head of fashion.

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We're kind of expressing, I think,

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some of what I think you're trying to get across. Basically, what I said is subject was another data point to consider

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for how we handle design transitions. Again, I want to preface this with that.

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I understand what you guys are doing with the seasonal styles. I still believe in this direction as we transition from merch to a fashion brand,

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but I don't know how to deal with the unavoidable truth that for the styles

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that have a very distinctive look and end up on camera a lot,

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we will not even see their peak demand until well after launch

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once they've had a bunch of exposure. Framework hoodie and LAN, which is the green and black one you're talking about,

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are the two I've raised this about recently and I understand the pushback

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from someone on one of them about how they want to do something new

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rather than just reprint an old thing. But I do worry that we may be doing things the fashion way rather than

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being open to the way that our business for all of its faults

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has kind of worked up till now. I'm not asking for change, just flagging this audience feedback.

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I hate telling people too bad you can't buy it when it was only available for a month or two.

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Also, though, we can't have a repeat of the overstock situation on WAN V2 colon slash face.

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So some of the ideas that the team has had is we could maybe have some Linus's favorites

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that we bring back sometimes. Because the challenge, right, is the minimum, not the minimum even,

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but the order quantity, we try to get it right. And a lot of the time at our scale, it's the minimum.

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It's the minimum order quantity where it even becomes cost-effective

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because you've got to get fabric, you've got to dye fabric, you've got to cut fabric, you've got to produce this stuff.

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And it all happens at a scale that is frankly mind-boggling.

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It's a miracle that we're able to make garments at all, to be honest with you.

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And then once we sell through all of it, typically the sales are really high

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and then they kind of peter out, right?

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Reordering at that time, a lot of the time seems crazy

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because we can't just order 10. I can't order 10 of these.

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I have to order something like this probably anywhere from like 2,000 to 3,000 of these.

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So unless the sales at the end of the curve justify

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what we committed to back when we could count on the beginning of the curve,

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we're f***ed, it just doesn't, the math doesn't math.

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And so, but the flip side of that is like, okay, but what about if we,

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like I said in my email, never even saw that demand recover

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because it wasn't even appearing on camera yet

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by the time we cleared it out effectively?

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I don't know, it's a tough nut to crack.

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So, so bringing back some of Linus' favorites once in a while is one idea.

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As part of the new LTT Store website, we're going to have a product archive

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and I have talked to the team about maybe having a voting system

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so that we bring back like the top upvoted one sometimes or something like that.

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I think that could be really cool. But it's just, we make so many products because we want to,

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we always want to look forward, right? We always want to move forward. So we make so many products that it's not possible for us to just

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always perpetually have them always in stock. It just doesn't like work that way in fashion.

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And that's something that they've really had to kind of beat into my head because I bring more of an electronic sensibility,

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which operates on like a more of a yearly cycle, whereas fashion is fast, man, is quarterly, seasons, right?

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They don't make the rules. And so it's just one of those things that we're learning as we grow

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and as we change as a company. So in terms of who you can blame, you can blame me.

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I like that hoodie. And so in the morning, when I look at my hoodies, I often put it on.

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Should you come into work wearing whatever you want

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and then there be a wardrobe for you for the day picked out by

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there's supposed to be a merch inclusion form. Do you not get to dress yourself anymore?

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You tiny boy. I like dressing myself. Nope.

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I mean, I already only wear merch. I'm literally wearing the hot dog.

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We're also not selling. Do we sell the hot dog? Maybe we do. I don't think the hot dog's still for sale.

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Okay. It might be. It might be. I've got cargo pants. I don't know if we carry this color of cargo pants anymore.

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I'm wearing the underwear though. Am I wearing prototype socks?

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I am. I am. I'm not heck or the socks coming.

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Sorry. You told me soon, soon. I know, but it's soon.

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I don't know. I've got to get the webcam ready. It's late. I don't want to bug Dave right now.

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Yeah, I know. Don't bug Dave. I'm not going to bug Dave. I just call him. No, he just messaged.

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He just messaged. He's around. Okay. Because I need new socks.

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Oh, Linus coin is marked as sold out and the back order flag has been removed.

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Like 20,000 coins. Nice. Yeah, that'll burn through a lot of that zinc.

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I kind of, yeah, I need new socks.

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Okay, I'm asking. I bought a pair of the darn tough to see what all the hype was about.

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Are you sold? Are you sold on Reno will blend socks? Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Now I want socks.

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And no, no, no disrespect to darn tough at any point.

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They, uh, they make a great product. I don't. Now I will own two pairs of great socks.

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Yep. It's going to be great. More cake or whatever the saying is.

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Yeah. Have your cake and your other cake. Is that what you're getting?

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I think it's, it's like artists think that, you know,

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that other person makes better cake than me and the consumers are just like, hell, yeah, two cakes.

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Yeah. We've got two brands of great socks now instead of just one.

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You need a, we need to find that looks like grub, isn't it?

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Yes. That's not good. Why is that not good?

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Because it doesn't normally come up when I boot my computer. Why, why did you boot into grub?

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Oh, no. You guys, you guys saw it.

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You saw it live on WAN Show. This man's cursed.

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Mike, it's freaking Kubuntu. Can you, can you boot into Kubuntu off grub?

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Oh, it went away. You didn't do a selection for too long, I think.

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That is probably good. I think it's trying.

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What are the odds? You guys, freaking saw it.

04:12:09.520 --> 04:12:13.360
Okay. I think your computer just ran out of power. That's, that's, maybe that's it.

04:12:14.800 --> 04:12:17.680
That, I'm going to check. I'm going to check. That does break laptops.

04:12:27.920 --> 04:12:31.520
Is that 10% now? Do you think it would have charged 10% in the, yeah, maybe, maybe.

04:12:31.520 --> 04:12:34.640
Okay. Okay. Maybe my battery just died. You know what?

04:12:34.640 --> 04:12:36.800
That's going to be the Canon explanation for it.

04:12:37.920 --> 04:12:43.840
My battery died. Okay. No big deal. I mean, that's a pretty scary way for the computer to behave when your battery dies.

04:12:43.840 --> 04:12:52.240
Windows does handle that better. Um, yep, but, but no harm, no foul.

04:12:52.240 --> 04:12:56.880
All right. What's up? Okay. On in Chidification Plus, YouTube's moat.

04:12:56.880 --> 04:13:00.720
Any insight on how Billy Billy's economy works? So much better than YouTube.

04:13:00.720 --> 04:13:04.080
Shout out to LTT's Billy Billy team. Tech puns have transcended.

04:13:04.080 --> 04:13:07.040
So much better than YouTube. Language and cultural barrier.

04:13:07.920 --> 04:13:13.280
Billy Billy has a lot of. Just reading it. Don't look at me like that. Cool social engagement for the users.

04:13:13.840 --> 04:13:17.200
Which is pretty neat. Okay. Wait, what, sorry.

04:13:17.200 --> 04:13:21.360
What was the question? I thought it was based around monetization. Yeah. How does their monetization model work?

04:13:21.360 --> 04:13:26.640
Economy. Yeah. They asked. Um, I, I, as far as I'm not talking about platform features.

04:13:26.640 --> 04:13:32.640
As far as I can tell, Billy Billy is a flip in huge video platform and has achieved scale.

04:13:33.520 --> 04:13:36.560
Is pretty much the only explanation that I can give for it.

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I thought he meant like creator economy stuff.

04:13:40.320 --> 04:13:42.960
I don't think he meant, yeah, Billy Billy is enormous.

04:13:43.440 --> 04:13:45.920
There's no, no doubt about that. Yeah.

04:13:47.200 --> 04:13:50.960
Yeah. I wonder how our Billy Billy channel is doing. I haven't actually looked at it recently.

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We're well over a million now. Subscribers, that is, that is one of my coolest play buttons.

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I think it's my second favorite. Yeah. My gold Billy Billy play button.

04:14:06.480 --> 04:14:11.680
I can never read views on here. Is that 40,000 or 4,000 views?

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I don't know. Four. Is that 4,000?

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He has no idea. Is this four?

04:14:19.680 --> 04:14:24.480
No, it's not four. Eight. This is, this is why I said he has no idea.

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Four. Four people, four people currently watching.

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So he's right. I should have even, I should have even known better this.

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I know this, I know this is person. That's like the one Chinese character.

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He doesn't even know that I speak fluent Cantonese.

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Andy taught me. I don't think this is Cantonese.

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What the heck is that? I'm not clicking that. I can't try to counter Dan anymore.

04:14:54.480 --> 04:14:58.000
Maybe it is Cantonese. I don't know. I said speak, not read.

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No, I don't. Where's the view counter?

04:15:01.440 --> 04:15:02.720
I have no idea. I'm over it.

04:15:06.640 --> 04:15:09.520
Oh, okay. Sorry, moving on. I really like their banner.

04:15:10.800 --> 04:15:14.560
The Billy, Billy banners awesome. Oh, what? Just the banner at the top.

04:15:14.560 --> 04:15:18.080
Yeah, it's cute. It's nice. Remember when YouTube had a personality?

04:15:20.880 --> 04:15:24.640
Oh, Mr. Beast. Oh God, he's so unsettling.

04:15:24.640 --> 04:15:27.840
That thumbnail is very unsettling. Is that?

04:15:27.840 --> 04:15:31.200
Oh, this is on Billy, Billy. Yeah.

04:15:34.640 --> 04:15:36.560
I think I can taste his teeth from here. Yeah.

04:15:40.320 --> 04:15:44.080
Hey, it's Steve. It's Steve, but not Steve.

04:15:46.640 --> 04:15:49.760
Steve, 1989, but it's not Steve. Nice. Solid.

04:15:50.720 --> 04:15:56.240
All right. Gray from Oz. Do you run separate VLANs on your home network?

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I have a VLAN for my IoT devices, but have the issue of changing from my normal to IoT Wi-Fi

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to use my Sonos. Also, Prismatic stubby when?

04:16:07.360 --> 04:16:11.520
I don't know if we're going to do a Prismatic stubby. If we were going to do anything, it'd probably be a transparent.

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That still sells quite well. As for why I don't bother at home, you answered it.

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Everything in my home needs to talk to everything in my home,

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and I can't think of any reason to not. The only exception is that I do have a guest Wi-Fi.

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And from my understanding, when I click the guest Wi-Fi button,

04:16:31.680 --> 04:16:36.320
it's doing VLAN magic in the background, but I never actually configured VLANs for it.

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What's up, boys? What are your plans for the summer?

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What are you guys looking forward to the most?

04:16:44.320 --> 04:16:49.440
Honestly? I'm going to play a lot of badminton probably.

04:16:49.440 --> 04:16:52.800
Yeah. Same thing we do every night, Pinky.

04:16:52.800 --> 04:16:56.800
I think Emma and I are going to have to breathe a little bit

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after having kind of figured the house out. Now that there's no mold.

04:17:00.560 --> 04:17:04.080
Yeah. Yeah. Better breathe now. Yeah.

04:17:04.240 --> 04:17:09.840
Better, better breathe now. Yeah. And then kind of figure it out. I feel like I owe her something.

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So we'll probably have to go somewhere or something.

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I don't know. We'll figure it out.

04:17:28.320 --> 04:17:30.000
I don't see a full bunch. I was like, chicken?

04:17:31.680 --> 04:17:34.960
Well, maybe a little more than chicken. Maybe something less transactional.

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Make the chicken together.

04:17:40.640 --> 04:17:41.760
You guys are going to make a chicken?

04:17:44.400 --> 04:17:47.280
I mean, they're going to dry. They're going to get it one day.

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I'm going to avoid continuing to comment.

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Build a coop. If I had land, I feel like I would actually have chickens.

04:18:00.640 --> 04:18:03.760
But it's so weird. Just build a coop in the park. Yeah.

04:18:03.760 --> 04:18:07.200
Anyways. What is it with you and birds now?

04:18:08.080 --> 04:18:11.680
I don't remember you ever being a bird guy. No, this is actually completely unrelated. But just for eggs.

04:18:11.680 --> 04:18:16.640
Yeah. Okay. It's a coincidence. The only two animals you seem to have any interest in owning are birds.

04:18:17.360 --> 04:18:20.960
Total coincidence. Genuine coincidence. Okay. And that's not true. I want a dog.

04:18:20.960 --> 04:18:23.600
Okay, I'll allow it. I want a dog way more than I want birds. I just...

04:18:26.000 --> 04:18:30.880
I have reservations about having a dog in an apartment.

04:18:30.880 --> 04:18:34.960
I'm not judging other people. Makes sense. But especially for the size of dog that I would want.

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And the amount that currently in my life with how busy I am,

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I would be able to take them out and do walks and stuff. I have reservations about having a dog in an apartment.

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Even for cats who seem to spend a lot of their time just lying around.

04:18:47.760 --> 04:18:53.120
I was surprised by the change in their demeanor that we noticed moving into a bigger house.

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It's just, it was one of those things that was not a factor in our decision whatsoever.

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But they clearly liked it and were clearly more comfortable.

04:19:03.120 --> 04:19:08.400
And every cat that we've... Every cat we had in our old place always tried to get out the door.

04:19:08.400 --> 04:19:11.760
And every cat that we've had at a new place doesn't try to get out.

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It's a sample size of only several, but make of it what you will.

04:19:18.720 --> 04:19:22.960
Yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, if something changes or...

04:19:22.960 --> 04:19:28.080
Oh, are you bringing it up? He's bringing it up. He's bringing it up. Let's see.

04:19:28.640 --> 04:19:31.840
Let's see. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

04:19:35.040 --> 04:19:36.240
There. Oh, did we catch it?

04:19:40.320 --> 04:19:43.440
It's coming. It's coming very, very soon. I had them reverse.

04:19:43.440 --> 04:19:46.240
Okay. Okay. We're doing it. Very, very soon. It took me a second as well.

04:19:47.520 --> 04:19:55.600
Very soon. Okay. We're at like five, four, three, two...

04:19:56.560 --> 04:20:00.080
Oh! Let's go to... Very good.

04:20:00.080 --> 04:20:01.680
Very good. Very well. Yeah.

04:20:03.200 --> 04:20:05.920
Oh, that's pretty cool. Slip the surly bonds, etc.

04:20:06.480 --> 04:20:08.320
Yeah. Man, that's sick.

04:20:09.680 --> 04:20:12.880
All right, cool. History.

04:20:12.880 --> 04:20:17.760
Ever, ever, ever so slightly slowing down, but she's moving.

04:20:19.280 --> 04:20:26.400
Loving the good news, April. Linus, any suggestions for trying to do touch-ups on a wall that was painted prior to moving in

04:20:26.480 --> 04:20:30.560
and have no clue what the actual brand or color was? Is this even possible?

04:20:30.560 --> 04:20:34.880
Yeah, most paint shops will do paint matching, so color matching.

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So what you'll do is you will actually, if you want the best possible match,

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and this is going to feel awful in the moment that you're doing it,

04:20:42.000 --> 04:20:46.000
but you'll cut a piece about this big.

04:20:46.000 --> 04:20:49.920
You'll use like an X-Acto knife blade, so you'll extend it,

04:20:49.920 --> 04:20:57.600
and then you'll kind of like, you'll bend the blade a little bit, and you'll slice a circle of paint off of the top of the dry wall.

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Ideally, somewhere that has experienced similar fading to the spot you're trying to touch up,

04:21:06.800 --> 04:21:10.960
because not all the paint on your wall is going to be equal things do fade under UV light,

04:21:12.160 --> 04:21:16.560
and then you'll take that to the paint shop, and basically they'll be able to identify the sheen.

04:21:16.560 --> 04:21:19.840
They have a whole pan-tone probably like system,

04:21:19.840 --> 04:21:23.360
but they have a whole like spectrophotometry or whatever.

04:21:23.360 --> 04:21:28.320
Some kind of color, might be a colorimeter, but they have some kind of color analysis thing,

04:21:28.320 --> 04:21:33.600
and then they will get it to the point where they will get a paint dab.

04:21:33.600 --> 04:21:37.360
They'll put it on there, and it should be pretty much indistinguishable from the thing.

04:21:37.360 --> 04:21:41.520
Then you get some putty. You putty over the like gouge you took out of your wall,

04:21:41.520 --> 04:21:47.040
and then you touch up both of them with your paint. You just put it on, and then you feather it to blend it a little bit

04:21:47.040 --> 04:21:53.120
with a very light amount of paint on it. You're never going to get the finish the same with a brush as you will with a roller.

04:21:54.000 --> 04:21:59.760
Yeah, I mean, I guess there's nothing would prevent you from putting it on with a roller, and then also kind of feathering the edges with that, but that's the way to do it.

04:22:03.200 --> 04:22:13.440
Hey, dear love, what games have you been playing with your kids? My kids 16M and 10F, weird names, are still pretty obsessed with Minecraft,

04:22:14.400 --> 04:22:19.520
and I introduced my daughter to Untitled Goose Game, which she loves.

04:22:21.200 --> 04:22:28.080
My girls are still super into Minecraft, and my son is, he's a Rocket League fiend.

04:22:28.080 --> 04:22:34.320
I try to play other games with them, and he just goes back to Rocket League just about every time,

04:22:34.320 --> 04:22:37.440
and he's pretty good at it, so I think it gets comfortable. Is he ranked?

04:22:38.320 --> 04:22:44.160
I mean, presumably, but I don't know. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm out of touch with my kids, apparently.

04:22:44.160 --> 04:22:47.440
I don't know what his rank in Rocket League is. That means you're out of touch with your kids.

04:22:47.440 --> 04:22:53.280
You know what, though? I want to, like, maybe even this weekend, I want to play Goof Shroop with them.

04:22:54.240 --> 04:23:01.680
On ironically, goaded Super Nintendo game, and I played it when we were doing Sven's AMD

04:23:01.680 --> 04:23:07.920
Ultimate Tech upgrade because he got a RetroTink 4K, and we hooked his SNES up to it.

04:23:08.640 --> 04:23:13.520
Oh, he has, like, a B4, I think, LG TV OLED?

04:23:14.640 --> 04:23:18.640
Oh, it looks so good. And it's really fun.

04:23:18.640 --> 04:23:25.360
It's like we played through the first world together, and it's co-op, and it's just really fun.

04:23:25.360 --> 04:23:27.840
Sweet. Yeah, so I'm thinking maybe I'll try and play that.

04:23:29.840 --> 04:23:32.880
Luke, have you played Crimson Dessert?

04:23:32.880 --> 04:23:38.400
No. I haven't either, but it seems like the kind of thing that I'll have to play.

04:23:38.960 --> 04:23:46.320
Really? It's an RPG, right? Open World RPG? Yes, but a lot of people say that it doesn't get good for, like, many hours.

04:23:47.120 --> 04:23:50.960
I don't know if it's a Linus game. That might make it not a Linus game.

04:23:50.960 --> 04:23:52.720
It sounds like it might be a me game.

04:23:55.280 --> 04:24:00.320
The way that people have talked about it remind me a lot of, like, the reasons why I liked old

04:24:00.960 --> 04:24:01.920
Bethesda games.

04:24:04.080 --> 04:24:07.120
You have no idea what to do, and everything is dangerous.

04:24:07.120 --> 04:24:12.000
And everything is weird, and there's all these weird different systems, and you can use them in

04:24:12.000 --> 04:24:15.440
kind of broken, weird ways, but it's a single-player game, so who cares?

04:24:15.440 --> 04:24:19.280
And you just go mess around. But yeah, I haven't tried it yet. I have no idea if it works on Linux.

04:24:20.480 --> 04:24:23.440
I want to try it soon. It's been very interesting to me.

04:24:27.200 --> 04:24:32.480
Proton DB. Oh, boy. First hit for me is I just created this guide.

04:24:34.160 --> 04:24:36.560
Oh, no. Gold.

04:24:39.200 --> 04:24:44.880
Some extra flags you can see. Okay, well, it looks like it'll require at least a little tinkering.

04:24:44.880 --> 04:24:48.720
I've never seen this. It's never come up for me, and it's not even on my ignore list.

04:24:49.920 --> 04:24:50.880
I'm living in a rock.

04:24:54.400 --> 04:24:58.480
Okay, no crims and desert. Greetings, gents.

04:24:58.480 --> 04:25:03.520
Played tape to tape with the cousins recently, but I had trouble getting more than five controllers

04:25:03.520 --> 04:25:08.080
connected. Have you had any luck with this? And if so, is it possible to learn this power?

04:25:08.880 --> 04:25:17.200
Are you on the beta branch? I don't know if the old non-beta branch supports it, but the beta branch is available

04:25:17.200 --> 04:25:20.400
in the public branch. You just have to click beta branch in the intro screen.

04:25:20.400 --> 04:25:25.280
That could be part of it. Another part of it is that there's a flag in Steam.

04:25:27.280 --> 04:25:35.280
For many controller support, also to go beyond eight, you can't use all X input because I

04:25:35.280 --> 04:25:40.000
believe X input is capped at eight, so you'll need at least a couple of D input controllers.

04:25:40.000 --> 04:25:46.560
But yes, it can be done. We have played 5v5 locally with tape to tape, and it is so fun.

04:25:46.560 --> 04:25:47.920
It's super fun.

04:25:50.480 --> 04:25:57.200
Linus, couple videos. You dress up in costumes like in Razor Phone or Star Forge video,

04:25:57.200 --> 04:26:03.200
and it looks like you have tons of fun. Who comes up with these ideas, and are you always excited to do dress up?

04:26:03.200 --> 04:26:06.720
I love costumes. I think they add so much production value.

04:26:06.720 --> 04:26:08.160
I think they add fun on set.

04:26:10.960 --> 04:26:16.480
We did that one recently where I dressed up in a wrestling onesie.

04:26:17.200 --> 04:26:22.240
That was hilarious. I think everyone has a pretty good time with it.

04:26:22.240 --> 04:26:28.640
Ploof is particularly an enthusiast when it comes to just playing dress up with Linus the Doll.

04:26:33.040 --> 04:26:38.720
Linus the cable hero or whatever from the LTT cable launch.

04:26:38.720 --> 04:26:41.680
That was Adam. I don't know. It's fun.

04:26:42.640 --> 04:26:48.240
Man, I think when you get too old to enjoy dress up,

04:26:48.240 --> 04:26:54.240
then it's time to just kind of ask yourself, hey, when did I get not fun?

04:26:57.120 --> 04:27:00.000
I really liked the... You're too cool to wear a Halloween costume.

04:27:00.480 --> 04:27:04.160
Ask yourself, are you really that cool? What the heck even was it? This was forever ago.

04:27:04.160 --> 04:27:09.200
We filmed a thing. You and I dressed up in like old timey detective costumes or something?

04:27:09.200 --> 04:27:11.920
Yeah, for that Cooler Master sponsored video. Sure, yeah.

04:27:12.480 --> 04:27:20.480
Honestly, a lot of the old, really old sponsored video things we would do were really fun.

04:27:22.160 --> 04:27:28.000
Like the origins of... Was it TechLinked or Techquickie or something?

04:27:29.040 --> 04:27:34.960
We would dump these videos on that channel and it was like, yeah, I don't know.

04:27:34.960 --> 04:27:39.520
Like sponsored, it was a repository for sponsored videos and we would just kind of dump them on

04:27:39.520 --> 04:27:45.440
there and then we would also do short tech tip videos just to build up the numbers on that channel.

04:27:45.440 --> 04:27:49.200
It was never actually intended to be that. It just kind of became that over time.

04:27:49.200 --> 04:27:52.400
Yeah, and filming those was so much fun.

04:27:52.400 --> 04:27:56.400
Jumping off the fence with your sword. Oh, I hurt myself doing that.

04:27:57.840 --> 04:27:59.920
Wait, I jumped off the fence. I did a flip.

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That's a fair one up. I didn't land it.

04:28:09.760 --> 04:28:11.440
Only one of us was up. I was down.

04:28:16.640 --> 04:28:19.280
Hi, LLD. I'm currently growing a year.

04:28:19.840 --> 04:28:23.920
Growing my beard for a whole year as a bit to mess with my...

04:28:23.920 --> 04:28:27.520
Oh my God. Noke asks, why not do this again? I mean, I'm down.

04:28:28.080 --> 04:28:31.200
Yeah, I'm down too. I'm down. Do it. We have to find out who did this.

04:28:31.200 --> 04:28:34.160
Do it, you cowards. Who crashed their car into the store.

04:28:37.920 --> 04:28:41.120
Sorry. Yeah, I don't know. Whimsy is fun here.

04:28:42.080 --> 04:28:45.920
Hi, LLD. I'm currently growing a year to growing my beard for a whole year

04:28:45.920 --> 04:28:52.000
as a bit to mess with my wife. What is your dream bit and what's stopping you from doing it?

04:28:52.000 --> 04:28:57.200
A one year long bit to mess with your wife might be a little excessive.

04:28:58.880 --> 04:29:02.720
Sorry, but... Is it worth it?

04:29:04.320 --> 04:29:06.720
Does this feel like it's going to pay off?

04:29:07.440 --> 04:29:11.760
Have you ever heard of the happy wife, happy life thing?

04:29:12.560 --> 04:29:16.160
I tricked you with this thing that you saw happening for a year

04:29:16.160 --> 04:29:18.080
and it just got grosser and grosser.

04:29:19.280 --> 04:29:21.440
How do you think bothered wife for a year?

04:29:23.040 --> 04:29:25.360
What does that result in? Divorce speed run.

04:29:26.400 --> 04:29:30.080
The bit is I come home and I'm completely clean shaven

04:29:30.080 --> 04:29:32.480
after having a beard my whole life.

04:29:33.920 --> 04:29:38.960
Yeah. Isn't that a bit? And like fairly quickly reversible.

04:29:39.920 --> 04:29:43.120
Well, depends on how long the beard was. This one's reversible too.

04:29:43.120 --> 04:29:45.200
He just has to decide to reverse it.

04:29:49.040 --> 04:29:52.320
Man, I don't know if I have a dream bit, but there is a funny one that I thought of.

04:29:52.320 --> 04:29:57.440
We just bought like a Jesus costume so that I can do a thing.

04:29:57.440 --> 04:30:00.320
Basically, I just thought of the idea of turning water into segway.

04:30:00.880 --> 04:30:04.880
And I was like, can we get a Jesus costume? And so resourceful for me.

04:30:05.360 --> 04:30:08.640
Immediately. I haven't written it into a video yet.

04:30:10.240 --> 04:30:13.760
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You're going to be, you can be Jesus. Oh man.

04:30:16.080 --> 04:30:20.080
That's, that's the whole thing. It was just one of those late night thoughts.

04:30:20.080 --> 04:30:23.760
I was like, turn water into segway.

04:30:23.760 --> 04:30:28.720
Those are the best. Teach a man to segway. He can feed himself and his jet.

04:30:32.160 --> 04:30:33.200
Give a man a segway.

04:30:36.000 --> 04:30:40.160
Oh my God. I don't think we should be allowed to be creative,

04:30:40.160 --> 04:30:43.040
but that's excellent. Okay. Geez.

04:30:45.040 --> 04:30:46.800
No, I can't think. Yeah, let me do a second.

04:30:48.560 --> 04:30:53.600
Linus, last year you said you want to do a video reflecting on thinking of retiring.

04:30:53.600 --> 04:30:56.720
Livestream. He can't. He's going to rise again.

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I was thinking of buying a jet.

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Do you still have thoughts to share about it now? Do you think of it differently compared to a year ago?

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I've been thinking of selling my jet. Oh man.

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I think what I'm more focused on right now is just trying to find the fun again,

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just doing cool stuff, finding cool tech, finding cool news, finding exciting stuff to do,

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and doing that, and assembling a crack team that is laser focused on doing that.

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That's the short version of it.

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I'm coming up on my 40th.

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I told Luke this the other day. That's caused a lot of introspection lately.

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I think if my midlife crisis can be

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doing some wacky stuff, some high budget wacky stuff, and finding the fun,

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and making it really enjoyable to work again, then I will consider that a success.

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By the way, for people that don't know, I just think this is so cool.

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NASA's YouTube channel is just sending a continuous live feed right now,

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which is just sweet. And they'll switch back and forth between this and Mission Control.

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I didn't even have to buy a color TV this time. Can you imagine how cool it's going to be for them after this multi-day journey on the way back?

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Can you imagine sitting in there, having just seen the back of the moon,

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you're one of four people who has seen the back of the moon with your real human eyes,

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and just the energy in there?

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Oh, yeah.

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Fantastic. It's so cool. I love as well how I just directed everyone to go there, and then

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dude spun around and pointed his butt right at the camera.

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NASA Space Light has full live commentary thing.

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Yeah, I suspect Space Flight Now is also doing stuff.

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Let's see. Are they?

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I have an answer for you, by the way. It's not as exciting as Space Flight, but it is regarding the socks.

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Midsummer, late summer, before August.

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That's not... Well, I thought it was sooner. Yeah, Space Flight Now does have a 24-7 stream.

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Yeah, there's a lot of them. It's really cool. That's not what I was looking for before August.

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Sorry. Okay.

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Dear Li Lu and Da, what's the coolest branded PC or console product

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you guys have ever had the privilege of owning? Mine are the Starfield controller, Xbox One Halo edition, and Warcraft MSI graphics card.

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SteelSeries had that weird wow mouse to that count.

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Did you own that? I mean, I unboxed one.

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I can tell you one that I'm not a fan of.

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A SUSE sent over a sample of this PX-13 ProArt laptop, which is a super cool laptop.

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It has weird GoPro code branding.

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Yeah, I don't get it. So it just has a GoPro logo, and then it has a GoPro button.

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I'm on Linux right now, so I have no idea what the GoPro button even does.

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But then it just, it has GoPro art, GoPro art, GoPro, be the hero of your story on the bottom.

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GoPro seems like a fine brand, but it just seems very random.

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Yeah, it's just weird. ViscousCree says it's got to be the gold Xbox controller.

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That's not co-branded. That's just ridiculous.

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Last one I got for you. What? I didn't even get an answer from Luke.

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Oh, I've heard that. I don't know if I literally have any.

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He would have had to buy some of the Pokemon branded computer.

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No, it's not branded. It's not branded.

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It's specifically not branded. It's got a trainer on it.

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It's themed. Whoa.

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Dude, you're taking off. You're going to go join Artemis.

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That was crazy. Last one I got for you.

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What home automation or smart home solution that you've implemented has been your favorite

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and which would you consider most essential? I'm a space cadet, so the notification that I get

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if I've left my garage door open is by far the most important smart home automation

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that I have in my life.

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I just forget. I can literally, I don't even know if I have full

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object persistence at this point because I can be looking at my garage going,

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I need to close that. And then I can look at the road

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and I no longer remember my garage exists. So yeah, it helps a lot.

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Yeah.

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And that's all we got. Thank you so much for tuning in.

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We'll see you again next week. Same bad time.

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Different channel. That's right.

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You got to go to the WAN Show channel now going forward.

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You could come here, but it will be worse.

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Yeah. Unless you're on full plane.

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Or, or Twitch? Are we leaving Twitch alone?

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We're going to leave them alone forever. You're being left alone.

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Bye!