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Hey look it's Luke. Hi Luke. Hello. Nice. How's that delay anyway? Should be, um, okay. There it is.

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I mean I can check. It's pretty cool delay, sexy delay. Yeah. You know? Here count to count to three. No I won't.

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Okay. Fine. I'll do it. One. Two. Three. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. You sure you don't want me to count to three point one four?

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Cause I could do that. But keep going for a while. Yeah I wanted to keep going for a while.

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We may have to start sooner rather than later just cause I have a place to go at some point. Is that, um, is that somewhat possible pretty quick?

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I mean yeah we're pretty showing where we're good to go. Okay. Cool. Um, yeah I think I'd like to, I think I'd like to do that.

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Let me grab another bottle of water real quick. I'll be back in seconds. Okay never mind. We'll do it soon.

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Um.

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What are you guys doing? Do you have a good week?

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Full plane chat? Do you have a good week?

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Dude I'm, yeah Fridays have been the busy day for like ever.

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Like forever. We show. Oh ow. Thank you for that Luke. That was really good.

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Can you pull that mic away from your mouth? We like the, we like the mic handling noise. Thank you.

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Oh. Primo. Primo.

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He's just being able to whip my headphones off because I don't, at home and normally for a while I don't have a headset attached to my mic.

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Right. Yeah. That checks out. Wow. With the natural light in Luke's room there compared to the like studio light on me I look dead.

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I was thinking he looked very jaundiced. I've been trying to color, trying to color correct him.

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Pink rosy. I think all these monitors are a bit redshifted. Well I'm like sunburned as well. No it's just, your camera's adjusting itself all the time.

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Oh man I'm tired. I could not sleep last night. Which honestly is good because if I'm going to change time zones I might as well have like a f***ed up sleep schedule at home.

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Yeah. I see it as a blessing. Are we going live at quarter after? Is that the plan?

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Whenever you fancy. I can set it to quarter after if you want. What if I plane instead of fancy? Ordinary.

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Yeah sure. I'll give you a bell for that. Nice. Nice. Now I feel good. I'm energized. Sorry when was it supposed to be?

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Let's do a 515. We could do 515? Okay. Yeah let's do 515.

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Man whenever I'm going through the topic doc I always feel like man there's a lot of topics like oh man there's going to be a long show.

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And then I look at the doc doc and I'm just like man there's like no topics. And then the show starts and then it's like man four hours later.

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You say that every week. Well yeah but ah. Okay here's what we're going to do Luke. Here's what we're going to do. It's going to be crazy.

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Okay. We're going to keep it on the rails today.

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Shut up. Stop. No. Stop. Stop it. No. Stop. No.

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There are literally topics in the document designed for taking it off of the rails. No I don't believe you. Not in my world. You put two of them there. Not in my world.

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So here's the plan. Okay. We're going to stay on the rails today. Okay. It's going to be old school when we're going to talk about stuff that happened.

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Then then and only then we'll go after dark.

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Does this mean that you're going to listen to it when I tell you to move on for the first time? Doubt it. I probably won't hear you.

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There's a giant card that I hold up. Can't see it. I guess it's equivalent to an advertisement.

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Anything that's always there for me is never there.

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You do have ADHD as well don't you? It just becomes part of the environment.

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Dude I literally like just I scatter things around my house that I'm supposed to remember.

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Like my system for making sure that I finish laundry on the weekend is that our laundry shoot.

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I just have the like pile of laundry hanging out of it and the door of it open so that I literally can't go in and out of the house without seeing it.

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Yeah but then you just like tripping on it. You learn to just step over it.

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No no no it's it's it's I make it that bad that it's like actually an obstacle until the laundry is done.

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And then when when I don't have enough that's like dirty then what I do is I take like a dried one and I like put that in the middle of the hallway so that I cannot get past it without being like oh right laundry.

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Smart smart thanks.

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I smartly fix my broken brain.

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I mean we all do we all do.

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I hate I hate ADHD. No no it's a superpower.

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Five minutes. What five minutes I thought we were doing it five seconds.

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Two seconds now it's five fifty. Alright I'm doing it.

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It's when showtime and I for one am ticked teed peeved.

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I rate how can I do this.

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We've got a lot of great topics for you guys this week starting of course with VPN secure cancelling lifetime subscriptions because they didn't know about them.

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What does that even mean?

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Oh oh oh in much better news we are officially the best at computer.

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That's right. We have this Guinness World Record to show that we computed more than anybody ever computed before along with our partner Kyoksia talking a little bit about the behind the scenes of that how that came to pass what else we got.

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Philips debuts 3D printable repair components for you know Philips products which is cool and rather surprising and also apparently podcasters don't want public play counts.

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So I guess the full plane is very very feature first on this one.

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I think I know why I know why. Oh people are upset I didn't say welcome to the WAN Show welcome to the WAN Show.

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It's been so many years since we actually sat on a couch.

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Yeah. The show is brought to you today by Vessi.

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Delete me and Squarespace. Of course alongside our rap partner dbrand our laptop partner Dell and our chair partner.

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Oops. Secret lab.

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Technically it was only a little bit over a year because of the April Fool's stream.

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Oh I guess that's fair. That is true. Haha.

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Yeah. Chui was there fact checking us fact checking us.

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Let's jump right into our headline topic which is of course a lot of you in the comments on today's video on us getting yes my friends it is real.

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The number of people that I saw being like I thought it was a bit.

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I thought it was like a bit. No no no no no. No no no it's 300 trillion bits.

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That's right my friends. Thank you Dan.

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We actually did get the verified Guinness World Record for calculating the most accurate value of Pi which was to 300 trillion decimal places.

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And I only vaguely remember how this came to be but Luke I kind of want to hear a little bit about how infra has felt about this project.

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That has been as far as I can tell very much in the way of things that they've been trying to do over the last I would say months but realistically it's been more like years.

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So. Yeah. And loud.

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I will I will tell you I will tell you that the project started in the same way that a lot of projects start around here and you guys probably remember back when we did the million dollar PC.

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So we had the these GPU compute nodes and realistically it was the oodles and oodles of high speed PCIe storage that made it so expensive.

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So we showed you know what a data center class node could actually be used for.

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I believe we did some simulations on it and stuff like that we showed how high speed storage is so important to powering these kinds of workloads.

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And then we were done with it and everybody wanted their hardware back which made us kind of go reasonable but hear me out.

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What if we keep the hardware and since we've got it we do something really cool with it.

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So whenever we get our hands on something that enables something that almost nobody else in the world could do we are highly incentivized to try to do more stuff with that hardware.

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Not because there's actually like a compelling business reason for us to have had that stuff lying around.

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As far as I can tell we have done absolutely nothing of use with the million dollar PC in the entire time that we've had it.

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And the majority of that time has been to try and get this project going which ended up being a huge challenge.

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Jake was I don't know if he ended up putting it in the final edit because I saw a version of the edit that I signed off on.

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Then I think we made some more changes. But basically he has this spreadsheet where he went through like every tunable in Y cruncher and basically did like before after before after before after before.

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But like it is the most flipping tuned Y cruncher not because Y cruncher is not good already but because as far as we can tell nobody has ever used it.

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Quite like this with network distributed storage in this fashion.

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So that that's how the whole thing started. We were like hey we should try to find something else to do with this super powerful hardware.

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Why don't we calculate more digits of pie.

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We kind of glossed over it in the video but keeping this thing fed has been an absolute nightmare.

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And I want to I want to before before Luke jumps in I want to address one more thing that I saw a lot of in the comments.

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And that is wow your infrastructure in Canada must be if you guys lose power that often.

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OK couple things. First of all in this area in particular.

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Yeah it does kind of feel that way. Do we lose power at the office alarmingly frequently especially given that this is an industrial zone.

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One that they are moving a hospital into.

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They are literally building a hospital across the street from Labs like right there.

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And we have lost power. I kid you not like somewhere between half a dozen and 10 times in the last calendar year.

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It has been unbelievable with that said I was sorry.

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I had a certain point in my growing up.

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We we lived on the same grid as the hospital that we were near at one point in time.

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And you would just never lose power like the whole everyone else would lose power and we would be fine forever.

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And then that stopped being a thing and it was it was a sad day.

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It's all about priority. So yeah I've also found that oddly enough for some reason you're talking about the infrastructure around us isn't that great.

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I find I lose power less than the office dude.

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This area like my current residential setup is more resilient than the office area is the pits.

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However in their defense there is kind of a good reason for it.

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This part of the lower mainland is quite built out but not built up.

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So it's quite spread out.

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And our power lines because of that were cost effectively constructed on wooden poles right.

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So our power line our power poles and our telephone poles they kind of share infrastructure and they're just they're just overhead power lines.

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So if you've ever been to Vancouver you might know that we are known for having for not just leveling all of the trees in our cities which is nice.

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You know beautiful even you might say beautiful British Columbia that's what it says on our license plates.

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But it is a bit of a double-edged sword and when we have a windstorm which hey you know just like the rest of the world seems to be happening a lot more frequently around here these days.

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I wonder if there's some kind of thing that might be contributing to that.

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I don't know it's a great mystery at least for you know half of the world that can't figure it out.

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We're having a lot more windstorms lately than we used to and so branches and trees are coming down on those power lines a lot more than they used to.

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So our infrastructure was designed for the very mild climate that we used to have and the very mild storms that we used to have.

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And now our climate tends to dip lower in lows during the winter get higher in the highs during the summer and we tend to have a lot more windstorms.

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So it's been a learning curve I guess is what I would say.

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That doesn't mean I'm happy about it. It wasn't great that we lost power a bunch of times during the pie attempt and also just generally lose power a lot.

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It's pretty inconvenient for business operations but overall I don't think it's slowed us down too much over the years.

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OK so what have you guys gone through because there's been cooling failures power failures just generally us being up in your biz like in from us be not that stoked on this project.

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Dan might have more to comment here than me but honestly that's those same things basically because in in a few cases we've been called and tried to help with that sound.

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Like even with the actually fairly extensive sound deadening that that room has on it.

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The info team is sat especially Tom is sat right next to it and straight through all that sound deadening it's been it's been real loud and screaming real hard the whole time.

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The I got some notes from Jake here I mentioned that this is going to be a topic and asked if there's anything you wanted to add.

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He said don't pick the cheapest HVAC quote.

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He said that a lot of people were commenting on asking how it was actually verified or if we just calculated 300 trillion digits of nothing.

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But apparently it's something called B. B. B. P. extraction or Bailey Borwin ploof extraction where you can calculate specific ranges of digits instead of the whole thing.

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So the Alexander Yee the Y. Cruncher Dev ran two separate B. B. P. verifications against the last chunk of digits in hex form to validate.

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And this took around six hours each on a very fast computer so apparently no you don't have to run the whole thing twice.

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And it gets spot checked against the existing record sets including two two hundred and two trillion and one hundred trillion from Google etc.

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And yeah Jake is also saying that he could run over to the set and add some context or questions which could be cool.

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Yeah no this has been Jake's pet project for over a year at this point getting it over the line.

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It's amazing how dedicated that young man can be when the objective is purely to create the world's largest pain.

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That makes a lot of sense. For quite literally no purpose other than to have the biggest computer pain.

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I'm not saying I'm not saying he doesn't work hard on other stuff.

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In fact someone Casper Explorer in the Floatplane chess says hey I thought you guys just made a video about DIYing battery backup battery backup the lab.

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He's been trying he's actually been trying to get me to do like a massive power backup project here for quite some time and yes the like weird we know it's at least a little bit sketchy setup that I have at my house right now.

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Was meant to be stage one stage two is hopefully like a bigger setup at my house because that's still a manageable scale.

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And if these projects continue to peak people's interest stage three could be a larger more resilient solution that's here at the office.

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So you know never never underestimate never underestimate this young man whether he's doing something actually useful like you know DIYing a UPS for a fraction of the cost or whether he's doing this.

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I don't know I know he's in the chat right now if people have questions over in Floatplane chat.

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He's coming over. He's going to join you Isaac V asked why not a diesel generator so you guys can keep going maybe a more proven way for business.

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So a diesel generator is not as simple as just like buy a diesel generator.

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You have to actually like make sure the diesel fuel doesn't go bad like when we checked out equinix is set up they had to have like their own fuel conditioning I think it's called.

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But basically like to rejuvenate the fuel on site and make sure that it doesn't go bad in their storage tanks that like tanks are underground.

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But also like they have like I think they have like counterweight or something so they don't like float in a flood or what like it's not.

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It's not that simple to do an entire building diesel backup and it does take on going maintenance and the the actual business disruption of our occasional power outages is not.

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That high like if it goes out for an hour or two we can just be like OK well.

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Realistically all we can do is lean or clean so find one of those things to do.

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And a lot of the time it's out overnight like it's it hasn't you have to do a business like cost analysis.

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If you guys have questions Jake's going to sit in Luke's chair you're going to go around.

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OK he's going to go around the back. I mean that's a path that's a path that people can take.

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I tried to warn him.

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He could have just quickly passed in front of this camera but instead he decided to take.

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You know what. Hi.

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How you doing. Where are the headphones.

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What.

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If you guys have any questions about the whole thing feel free to throw those over in the Floatplane chat brother.

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What. Oh. Where's where's this quarter inch jack adapter.

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What kind of professional what kind of professional podcast set is this.

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I wish I could. Why is Dan right in front of Luke. I can't. I can't show.

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Oh thank you Daniel.

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That's OK Dan's a professional. He always always keeps a three and a half millimeter to quarter inch adapter in his back pocket at all times.

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Dan is this true. Of course. Of course it's true.

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And also a quarter inch to three and a half.

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Yeah exactly. He always has. I own a Mac book.

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That's why I have a USB anything to type C adapter.

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Are we allowed to talk about the load of utter horse that getting one of these certificates is these days.

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I don't know that that is this song. Can you hear me through here.

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I can. I can't hear you through here. I can. I don't know that I want to do that.

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OK. Because I got to tell you it was a lot of work though.

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I'll tell you this much. OK. The process of getting the certificate is definitely different from what the process was back when we did Highlander like almost 10 years ago.

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It's also very different if you're doing it for like I'm a personal record.

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I'm like I'm on my chocolate or the most bananas finding pie in a minute or something.

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I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Or reciting pie from your brain.

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You don't usually I think you don't have to pay money or it's not a very large amount of money.

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But when you're doing something that's corporate it's advertising.

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Yeah. So they expect to get paid for it.

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And like and a lot. Yeah. Not three hundred three hundred trillion digits have paid.

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But more than two. There's a password on this laptop.

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More than three. I don't know. Can you get can you get multiple more than four.

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I know we have the the world record thing for for Highlander.

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You don't have it. Do you only. I thought they sent them to all the participants.

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No I have one. Oh. Oh sorry. I completely misheard you then.

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Yeah. No I said I know we have one. But like like how many of that do you have one pie.

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You can get as many as you want after we have this one probably get more than one.

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And then I ordered like a paper one because I wanted Linus to have a worse one.

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Well you're cheap. So like you wanted to pay the fifty dollars for the frame.

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You know what the worst part is. Am I wrong. You know what the worst part is.

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He's laughing because it's true. You know what the worst part is.

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That is a hundred percent what I did the first time. Yeah.

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Because that's it. It's just a piece of paper.

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I was looking at that the other day. I was like oh that's the Highlander one.

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It's the it's the cheapo one. Bro you can buy that frame on Amazon.

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Not that I support Mr. Bezos aside from when he trips and falls.

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Oh my god. Okay hold on hold on hold on.

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Okay I want to play a game. I want to play a game. Okay Dan Dan you're part of the game.

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I would like you to guess for each of us how many times we've watched Mr. Bezos each.

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How many times we've watched the clip. Okay so each of us each of us has to kind of think and write down what we think what

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we think it is how many times we think we've watched it.

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And if you watch it on loop each loop counts as one. Each loop counts as one.

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So hold on let me let me think for a second.

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Okay if you show it to someone else how many views does that count as is that just one

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or does it like count as a multiple view. No I think that's your.

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Okay that's just one okay.

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Okay I got my number. I got my number.

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Alright I think I've got some too. Did you show it on Wanshow?

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No I don't. Did we?

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Yes. Oh we did. Oh I didn't count that one.

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So do you get like hundreds of thousands? No no no no it only counts as one it counts as one.

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Okay I mean does it count as like half of one just because you're short.

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Okay let's see how well let's see how well Dan.

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I look small right now. Oh because Luke has a big torso right.

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My chair is lower than Linus's.

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Okay Dan. That's weird. Okay Dan.

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Each loop counts. Each loop counts. Alright so for Linus I'm gonna say around 120.

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Oh come on that's not realistic. Is it not?

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Who would have time for that? I mean like spread out over many many weeks.

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Like we watched it maybe four or five times on the Wanshow at least.

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Did we? Yeah it's funny.

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I don't know if we watched it that many times.

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Like maybe I'm gonna say I don't know 20, 20, 30 something like that.

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No not that funny. What do you want me to say or am I waiting?

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I guess waiting. And then maybe Luke like 10 to 20 times or something.

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Do you think Luke? Dude what? Okay alright.

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Okay so we have a bit of a problem here because I put down seven but I forgot

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that we watched it multiple times when we were looking at it on Wanshow.

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So realistically I'm probably closer to 20.

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We also watched it like 10 times during writer's meeting.

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I don't think I was there for that one. You might have been in the car still or something.

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Did you guys really? Oh yeah yeah. We were analyzing like how did he biff this?

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Oh he's just bad at walking.

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Dan said 10 to 20 for me. The number that I came up for myself was 15.

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15. Okay so Dan nailed you. What I didn't realize originally is that it's not like a short loop.

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Pause. Oh I missed it.

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It's not a loop.

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It's like a video that you have to scroll back on. Yeah.

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So maybe you know 120 is probably a little bit. Yeah that's probably fine.

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You don't just watch the video. Well no I mean people have. I mean I did rewind like the idea but it was manual.

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Show the people? No. No no.

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I don't want to get copyright strike. This is transformative baby.

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No I don't want to get a copyright strike over it.

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From Daddy Bezos? Dude we've been copyright strike for like showing game trailers.

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Well that is like the one thing that you get copyrighted for.

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Yeah it's ridiculous. It's not even just Nintendo runs either.

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It's just Bean Pootie Pie. Dude it's literally promotional content.

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It's literally ads. Can we copyright Linus Tech Tips?

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It's an old meme but it checks out. I like it.

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It's good. It's pretty good. I got it.

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Chad says yes we can. What are we supposed to be talking about right now?

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Oh yeah what's your number? What's your number?

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I'm going to go with like prob. Dan I think Dan was right. It's probably 20 times.

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And a good like 15 of those was just the first time I saw it.

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Dude it's so funny.

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It's so funny. Okay right so did anybody actually like put any questions in the chat or anything?

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I'm going to watch the clip on the laptop myself.

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Oh man what was one of the things that I had wanted to address?

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If I type Bezos biffing it will it come up?

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What was the most annoying thing about working on the Pyrex of Jake?

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Honestly I think the power outages are one thing.

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I would go with when we were near the end like in February, March timeline the AC was

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just crapping its pants with no suitable explanation.

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So this is an amazing amazingly engineered system.

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Okay so it has error codes. They're little lights not stored anywhere.

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They're just blinking lights yeah. Nice.

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And they're on both sides. So if there's an error with the outside unit it blinks the light on the outside unit which

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means you have to go outside get on a ladder take the thing off to see it.

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The inside unit also has error codes. If it shuts off like you know when you're trying to do a world record and you really

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need the bloody AC to turn back on so you go flip the breaker and like come on turn

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back on. The codes go away forever and there's no history nothing saved.

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So you know what happened like the first seven times we had no idea what was wrong with

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it. Nice. Literally none and even the HVAC guys were like I don't know.

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Come on you're like $250 an hour what the heck.

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Anyways it ended up being that the AC system had basically no refrigerant left in it.

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It was supposed to have like I don't know I don't want to say a number because I don't

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know the actual number. Let's say it's 10 pounds of refrigerant supposed to be in this loop right there was like 0.6.

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I don't know how this keeps happening.

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Do you know how many times they had leaks in that one mini-split system in the server

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room over here. It's probably leaked like a dozen times.

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Okay and I'm not even I'm not even trying to be a jerk about it.

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Right because it's easy right it's easy to look at someone else's job and be like oh

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it can't be that hard you know professional athletes how do you miss that.

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I could my grandma could have kicked that in you know whatever right like that's easy to

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do. But like in this case I actually have installed a mini-split system.

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Yours are mint right. Yeah they work great.

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You also had Brian the electrician HVAC man.

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I mean yes. I did get help but nothing that we did nothing we did was super complicated.

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Yeah you get some copper tube you raise some fittings on it and you make sure they're tight.

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What are they doing. I mean like no shade. The one in Creator Warehouse broke a month ago too.

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Okay let's give them a little shade. You did also approve the cheapest HVAC quote we got.

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Okay I didn't I had nothing to do with it.

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I told them get something good. I can't control.

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I can't control what people actually go ahead with.

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Yeah sure great. Literally though.

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Who did it. I don't know man. It doesn't matter.

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We don't want to throw anybody under the bus there's no point.

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The company that does the maintenance now is a lot better but yeah it was rough and to

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be clear I think maybe you're like overestimating the like average effort and that your average

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contractor is putting in. Oh I'm really not.

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Did I ever show you the pictures of my lawn right now.

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With the gravel on it. Did you show them the pictures of your lawn with the gravel.

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Did I. Dude it's so bad.

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Wait has it been fixed yet. They are there today.

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Like with what. To their credit. 70 rakes.

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To their credit. What. The company that screwed it up.

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Big vacuum. Dude. I think it is a big vacuum.

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We had already paid them.

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We had already paid them so like if they were anything like some of the contractors that

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we've worked with in the past they would have just ghosted us a hundred percent.

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But no they're they're actually good guys they actually came back so what they're doing

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is basically they're putting an inch of topsoil over our entire lawn.

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Oh then you're going to have like the mintus drainage. Yeah.

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To a point. To a point. Yeah and then once it's saturated it's game over.

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Well. Does your lawn have like a drainage underneath like drainage pipes.

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Yeah. Oh I'm surprised that. There was just one part that like didn't and a couple other little spots that were a little

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bit soggy. So Yvonne was like hey can you guys come and just kind of address that.

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And they came and dumped gravel all over the whole thing because of a miscommunication.

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So what happened was the company whose job it is is to just deliver like wheelbarrows

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of crap to a job site. Oh I see. They got it wrong.

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And then the guys that were just like the guys to just spread the stuff over they didn't

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question it because they were like why would they deliver the wrong thing.

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And then when the super shows up on the site he goes oh my God what happened.

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I'm laughing at both this story and Jeff Bezos falling on my laptop on repeat.

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He's got to get his count up.

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Okay so one thing is Linus said we weren't going to go off the rails on the show.

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Oh yeah you got my laptop going here.

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Oh yeah that was great. I've got my subway surfers doing my job.

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He was just too excited.

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So what did you promise at the start of the show? That we were going to stay on the rails.

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We have not stayed on the rails today. Are you doing an airplane like tonight?

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Don't worry about it. I haven't seen a lot of questions with the Pi stuff.

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I got one in merchandise. Why didn't you calculate it to Pi?

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Now that everyone has said that I'm like wow I'm an idiot.

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Yeah we should have done that. Or like to 300 trillion 69 or something.

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Why the round number? So there's a few factors here.

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It's like the main concern is your storage space.

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Because you have the memory in the computer that's your active working memory.

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Your storage space isn't used to store the output.

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I mean it is later on. But it's used as swap space which is just like memory but slower.

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When your computer has a swap it's slow.

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But in this case it's swap that's 100 gigabytes a second.

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So it's fast but not as fast as 3 terabytes of DDR5.

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Anyways where was I going with this?

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Oh yeah right. So originally we were trying to do 200 trillion digits

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and we had the storage capacity for that. And then when we were trying to do 300 trillion digits

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we were like we're going to have 98 percent of the capacity.

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We were going to use 98 percent of the capacity. But I later found out right before the run

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you don't actually have to output both sets of digits.

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So traditionally people would output the hexadecimal version

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which is what is actually calculated by the program and the decimal version.

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The decimal version is longer, takes up more space.

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That's what you would traditionally read 3.1415 blah blah blah blah.

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The hexadecimal format wouldn't really mean a whole lot to most people

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until you base convert it. But you don't have to output it.

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So I disabled it which saved us like 120 terabytes compressed.

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So we could have used that extra space to calculate

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14 trillion more digits.

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I would have settled for just like 69 more digits.

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You know what, here's the PR response. Why didn't I do that?

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Here's the PR response. Because then we would have a Guinness record that was...

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That's iconic! What do you mean? Yeah.

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No, no, here's the PR response. You know, for us this was just about the collaboration with Kyoksia,

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our partner on this project. Well, they're great.

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And we wanted to leave an opportunity for the next person

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to come along and do it to Pi digits. No, that's wrong.

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I actually have the real answer. In Y Cruncher, when you're setting up the run,

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when you type in how many digits, the short form version, you can just write 300 T.

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If I had to write the whole thing, that would have been like...

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That would have been a few more seconds. ...a few more numbers to click and like...

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You might have gotten Carpal Tunnel. Yeah.

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I wouldn't have wanted that. No, I wouldn't have wanted that. You'd be paying for that.

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You don't want to pay for that. We already established this.

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Look at the frame, buddy. Well, no, that's covered.

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He already pays for that. He pays for that anyways. Yeah, no, I think our premiums go...

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I think our deductible and premiums go up

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if people use anything. I could find a way to make the premiums go up otherwise.

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I think it'll be fine. Yeah, I think it goes up if everybody uses it.

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Only if you fill in the form.

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Dan has never filled the form. I don't want to cost Linus money.

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No, everyone has to fill out the form properly. You can't joke about that, Dan.

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Unless you're Linus. No, I fill out the form.

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It's extremely important you fill out the form. I have somebody fill out the form.

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That sounds more correct. That sounds a lot better.

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Delegation. I sign the form. This is management training.

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I sign the form. I sign the form. I have a merge message.

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If I get a boo-boo, if I get a boo-boo on set, I sign the form.

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Okay, yes, Dan. How much is there even to fill out before you sign it?

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It's like nothing. You don't even fill it out. You have fans fill out...

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No, the issue is that I have to go and find someone

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on the safety committee to see it filled out.

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It's the whole process of it. I take great joy in it because usually it's Dennis

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that's been filling it out for me, and I always enjoy a good little conversation with Dennis.

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They have it filled out, and then they bring it to me, and then I sign it, and that way the shoot doesn't have

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to be interrupted, and I can just keep filming. That's how it works for everybody.

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Is it? He's not special. Oh, well, that's good.

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It is the process. That actually sounds like a way smarter process, so that's good.

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I don't know how to fill out this form. There's like six boxes.

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They could have any information. What am I supposed to put where it says name?

399
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,040
They fill it out for you, yeah.

400
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,040
Where did you get your cut? What were you doing?

401
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,040
Are you filling the bargain one? What's my address? What's my address?

402
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,040
I don't know. It hurts. Here's your Band-Aid that will cost us

403
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,040
an extra thousand a month in premium. My favorite field is how are we going to prevent

404
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,040
this in the future? I have literally written...

405
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,040
I had filled it out for myself a few times,

406
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,040
and I have literally written not do that again.

407
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,040
Does that qualify? Is that good enough? I think so.

408
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,040
If the cause is just that I was stupid,

409
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:09,040
just general incompetence. If it's your stupid and you've never done this thing before

410
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,040
and you don't need to do it again, then I think, yeah, it's fair to just be like,

411
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,040
well... Don't drill through your hand. Why did you do it in the first place, Luke?

412
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,040
Gosh. I didn't know. Yeah.

413
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,040
It was a learning experience. I didn't know it would hurt. Yeah.

414
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,040
Okay. Sorry, Dan. You wanted us with a merchant?

415
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,040
Yeah. How much electricity did it cost? I had to show a fork in the socket.

416
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,040
I mean, probably more than what was shown in the video

417
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,040
because that didn't... Well, actually, no. I put a year.

418
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,040
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

419
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,040
So that's probably about right. Yeah. Well, I don't even remember.

420
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,040
I blocked it. It was like... I blocked it from my mind.

421
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,040
Just for your reference, just so you can re-sear this into your brain.

422
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,040
I believe what the calculator said was like $8,600 Canadian.

423
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,040
That is wild.

424
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,040
I mean... Can you tell him about the Boink project going on right now?

425
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,040
We can take some solace in the fact that this is more useful

426
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,040
than mining a lot of crypto crazy.

427
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040
So, at least there's that. Or as useful.

428
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Is it? Oh, I see. It's as useful.

429
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,040
I was like... There are equally pointless things that we could have burned fossil fuels for.

430
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,040
What do people use that many just to buy?

431
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,040
Nothing. You don't. You don't.

432
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,040
It's like something... I think what people have been saying is like NASA, in their craziest calculations,

433
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,040
use like 34 digits or something like that. Yeah.

434
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,040
And you can calculate something, something the entire size of the universe.

435
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,040
To an atom. To the size... Yeah.

436
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,040
With like a couple dozen, a few dozen digits of pie or something like that.

437
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,040
That's what the YouTube comments tell me. We know how accurate those are.

438
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,040
Yeah, well. Engineers use like... Yeah.

439
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,040
They just round it to four. They round up.

440
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,040
It's like good enough. Will Schwame, by the way,

441
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:53,040
made the point better than I possibly could have as to why, no, we are not printing this out.

442
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,040
At line is tech tips. A production printer is rated

443
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,040
for about one million sheets per month. I saw this.

444
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,040
It would literally take 1,000 months to print that,

445
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,040
aka 83 years. No, that sounds like a skill issue.

446
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,040
You clearly just need more printers. Duh.

447
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,040
Yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah, like what about those big newspaper printer machine things?

448
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,040
Have you seen those? Those things rip. Larger paper.

449
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,040
They did network distributed pie calculations.

450
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,040
They could do network distributed printing. Some of the comments on this video really are amazing.

451
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,040
As a mechanic watching this video and trying to understand,

452
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,040
it made me realize what other people hear when I talk about cars.

453
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,040
Literally nothing.

454
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,040
Yeah. That's great.

455
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,040
It's exhausting. I told the girlfriend, yeah, I needed a super...

456
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,040
What? No, no. I needed a supercharger.

457
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,040
It's just an alternator. It's for charging.

458
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:50,040
It needed that. It makes a noise, a spinny noise, yeah.

459
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Yeah, that's good for it. Yeah, you got it cheap because the bearings are gone.

460
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,040
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

461
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,040
These father and son episodes are so wholesome.

462
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,040
I just think we need to get Linus a supercharger.

463
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,040
Hey, since you're here. Oh boy.

464
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,040
Since you're here, there were some people who had some concerns

465
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,040
about the battery backup. Ah, she's mint. At my place.

466
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,040
She's mint. For now. Yeah, so...

467
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,040
Did I say she's mint yet? I scouted the location.

468
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,040
Oh, please. Yeah. I was going to ask you about this.

469
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,040
Yeah, so we hear you and we actually did want

470
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,040
to put the battery banks outside. Uh-huh.

471
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,040
That was the original plan anyway, but it was a lot easier for the proof of concept.

472
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,040
What is he doing? Which, yeah, he's telling us to move on.

473
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,040
So maybe we'll make this the last thing we chat about and then we'll actually do that.

474
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:45,040
That's clever. Yeah. Well, he has to deal with a host with ADHD.

475
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,040
You also don't have to listen to it. Or two. It's just a guide.

476
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Yeah. Double your pleasure. Double your fun today.

477
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,040
Hell yeah. One for each hand. So we are aware that it would be better

478
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,040
to have the batteries outside, but we wanted to do this proof of concept

479
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,040
for a couple of reasons. Number one is that I didn't want to go all in

480
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,040
and spend tens of thousands of dollars on something that we would then discover,

481
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,040
you know what, this is actually kind of beyond our scope. He had no faith is the answer.

482
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Yeah. Well, we have bitten off more than we can chew in the past.

483
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,040
I'm just going to say that. Okay. And number two is because Jake needed to do

484
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,040
a smaller scale project so that he can put in

485
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,040
all his tickets at the Christmas party to get the cast off one after I stop using

486
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,040
the initial deployment. I'm just going to borrow it forever. What do you mean?

487
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,040
Alex? Wild. Alex Dick, our logistics manager is going to be like,

488
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,040
thank you, Jake. I really appreciate you for getting this giant thing

489
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,040
out of the warehouse. Just sign it out. Thanks.

490
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,040
100% going to be his answer. I would like for the record to make it very clear

491
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,040
that that is not how that works for any other employees

492
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,040
who are watching this right now. 100%. Only for Jake.

493
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,040
No. That's what Linus is saying. No.

494
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,040
That is not how it works. Yeah. Yeah.

495
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,040
That is not how it works. It's not how it works. That is not how it works.

496
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,040
I... So those are the two reasons for the smaller scale deployment

497
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,040
because Jake wants one and because I didn't want to go

498
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,040
full hog immediately. So good news and bad news.

499
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Which one do you want first? I don't know.

500
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,040
Like I'm not going to listen to your bad news anyway. So just send it. Okay.

501
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Whatever. Yeah. So the good news is I have full faith now

502
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,040
because that deployment actually for all the concerns that people

503
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,040
raised about it. There is a few. Which are kind of valid.

504
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,040
Like, oh, we should have connectors on the things. Like, yes. I know that.

505
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,040
And there should be covers on some of the, you know, high current terminals and stuff.

506
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,040
That's why there is connectors on some of them and not others.

507
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,040
It's because they gave us the wrong size. Okay.

508
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,040
So that's the good news. The bad news is we don't have a straight run from the mech room

509
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,040
to the outside. Wait. No, I didn't.

510
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,040
I already tell, we solved this. This is ADHD. Okay.

511
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,040
Incarnate. Unfortunately by the panel outside.

512
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,040
Yeah. Like where the power comes into the house.

513
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040
There's not a great spot for it.

514
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Yeah. But we don't need a great spot. We just need a spot.

515
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:12,040
Oh, no. You don't go down the side of your house.

516
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,040
She doesn't.

517
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Am I wrong? When was the last time you went down the side of your house

518
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,040
before me asking you to go there? To pick blueberries.

519
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040
So it would have been last August. What?

520
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,040
There's a year. You can work around it. Like in the summer, I go there.

521
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,040
Okay. So like in the summer, I go there. We need to mount the like inverter thingy.

522
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,040
So the original plan was to put it in the mech room and like make a concrete box

523
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,040
or concrete board or something where, you know, you have an hour of it exploded

524
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,040
and put some like fire retardant stuff in there, like whatever, right?

525
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:53,040
But then we were, Jesus. And then we were like, let's just put everything outside because the inverter

526
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,040
needs to go upstream of the main panel anyway so that we can AC couple the solar to it.

527
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,040
Yeah. So why are we putting it inside? Let's just put everything outside.

528
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,040
So if the inverter is on the side of your house.

529
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,040
Yes. How far are these batteries going to be?

530
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,040
How many iPhones tall is this run going to be?

531
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,040
It's going to be, okay, to get it kind of like out of the way.

532
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:22,040
It's better be an iPhone. To get it out of the way, it would probably be about 40 iPhones.

533
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,040
It's pretty far. Like batteries from the inverter?

534
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Yeah. Is there like anything we can put it on there or is that, that's dirt?

535
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,040
We're pouring a pad. It's dirt.

536
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,040
Or we'll ask for a pad and instead we'll get large gravel.

537
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,040
It's strawberry plants. That's 19.2 feet.

538
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,040
Wow. Wait, what iPhones? Are we talking Pro Max's?

539
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,040
What are you, what are you comparing against? iPhone 12, 14.

540
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,040
Okay. Sorry. How many iPhone 13 minutes?

541
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,040
Let's go with that. This is, wait, this is in your backyard or is this still on the side of the house?

542
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,040
On the side of the house. How do you care about the plants on the side of the house?

543
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:02,040
Well, I mean, they're strawberries. Like they, you know, the kids like them, they eat strawberries there.

544
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,040
You know, like kids do. This is going to be like, kids eat strawberries.

545
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,040
It's going to be a monumentally larger, monumentally.

546
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,040
Yeah. Sure. Larger project.

547
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,040
Yeah. And I'm, I got to confess. This is like hundreds of kilograms of batteries.

548
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,040
I'm not super stoked on like the size of it.

549
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,040
This is like pallets of batteries. Yes, I know.

550
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,040
I know, Jake. Yeah. Did you tell them?

551
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,040
Not trivial. No, I don't think so.

552
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,040
Oh, well, we, what we were talking about was like 200 kilowatt hours.

553
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:39,040
Yeah. So the idea was that we could use a thousand.

554
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,040
Wait, I can show them. I can show them for 200 hours.

555
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,040
So literally if we were using the house normally, we could be down for like three days.

556
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,040
Okay. Four days. Hold on.

557
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

558
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

559
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,040
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

560
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,040
So I think that we're just talking about tens of thousands of dollars, but we're not actually talking about hundreds of

561
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,040
thousands of dollars. Surprisingly. Sure.

562
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,040
Does that sound like, does this, this sounds like something that would cost like 150,000.

563
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,040
Yeah. That sounds quite reasonable. Am I crazy.

564
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:17,040
That's like a lot of power. Yeah, no, it, it sounds like the kind of thing that if we went and we got it, you know, quoted

565
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,920
properly, that they would want like hundreds of thousands of dollars for, but it's, it's actually.

566
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,040
How do I do this? Less than you'd think. How do I do?

567
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,400
Here, I got you. Oh, Luke Lap, like laptop.

568
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,280
Yeah, not like lap-premiere. Why is there a lap cam? Luke Lap-premiere.

569
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,240
That's it, that costs extra per month. This is when after dark. Okay, so this is,

570
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:39,880
EVE is one of the major Chinese LFP battery manufacturers.

571
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,000
This is like one of their newer models. It's 314 amp hours at 3.2 volts.

572
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,920
It's roughly one kilowatt hour. This cell, if you buy between 100 and 2000 of them,

573
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,220
is 60 US dollars. Yeah. Before, obviously before shipping,

574
00:47:54,260 --> 00:47:57,300
obviously before tariffs, if you're in the US, I'm so sorry.

575
00:47:58,460 --> 00:48:04,660
Get tricked. But what if we buy 50,000 pieces? So what if we bought 250 of them times 60?

576
00:48:04,660 --> 00:48:08,300
It's 15 grand. Yeah. For 250 kilowatt hours.

577
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:11,500
Which is a lot of money. A lot of money. But.

578
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:15,140
That's a lot of money. That's like, how much is a power, like a Tesla powerwall? That is a freaking-

579
00:48:15,140 --> 00:48:18,620
Hold on. Does the bulk of this car get any better?

580
00:48:18,620 --> 00:48:21,860
No, right? Yeah, when you buy 500,000.

581
00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:27,500
Okay. So a powerwall is only 13 and a half kilowatt hours.

582
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:31,220
And how much does it cost? 16 grand. Something like, I forget.

583
00:48:31,220 --> 00:48:35,260
I forget how much they're, they're freaking expensive though. Oh, cause you gotta get an install. But that includes the inverter.

584
00:48:35,260 --> 00:48:38,500
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it includes more. This is just raw power.

585
00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:42,540
We actually still need to do the install. We still need an inverter.

586
00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:46,860
So something we, like inverter-wise- Like this is no BMS. Are we planning to just like-

587
00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:50,180
Oh, hey, cool. Are we planning to just weld these together or like-

588
00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:53,380
No, it'll be like a bus bar situation. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is actually not getting bad.

589
00:48:53,380 --> 00:49:00,380
The Vero BMS, that thing's super cool, right? That was built for car swaps, Tesla swaps specifically.

590
00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:04,220
You know, say what you will about that guy.

591
00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:08,580
But their batteries are very useful for EV swapping vehicles.

592
00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:10,860
All right, that's where I'm going with this. Sure.

593
00:49:12,220 --> 00:49:17,380
They made a new thing called, I think it's called like the Vero node.

594
00:49:17,380 --> 00:49:21,100
Oh, let me look it up. He'll figure it out. Yeah, okay, it's not out yet.

595
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:24,980
But they made a, here's our DIY balance board

596
00:49:24,980 --> 00:49:29,780
that hooks up to the main thing. So you buy these and then I think they support like,

597
00:49:29,780 --> 00:49:33,780
I don't want to say a number because I don't know, but like 15 cells or something like that.

598
00:49:33,780 --> 00:49:36,820
And so you, they're 150 bucks. You buy, their website is down.

599
00:49:36,820 --> 00:49:40,500
I wonder why that is. Way to go Wansho. Thanks, Wansho.

600
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:44,140
I hadn't even opened it yet. Like what the- They're quick.

601
00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:48,540
Yeah, you said it so fast. They're too quick. Yeah, just the last thing you want to do is like,

602
00:49:48,540 --> 00:49:53,300
talk about a funny domain that's available or whatever because they're like, they're on it.

603
00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:58,780
Okay, so 16 cells in series, which if I remember correctly, 16 times 3.2,

604
00:49:58,780 --> 00:50:01,820
I think that's the optimal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So about 40 equals.

605
00:50:01,820 --> 00:50:06,980
So 16 is how many, usually how you want in series. So we would need one of these for each series set.

606
00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:10,100
So you're talking like a few grand in BMS nodes.

607
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:13,460
You're talking like the inverters get way more expensive.

608
00:50:13,460 --> 00:50:18,220
The one we used for this project was the EG4 6K XP, whatever.

609
00:50:18,220 --> 00:50:20,620
But that was sized for like the racks.

610
00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:28,060
And some, but like not for the house. So this is 18 kilowatts in one box and it's seven grand.

611
00:50:28,060 --> 00:50:31,460
Yeah. So it's almost, it kind of scales almost linearly,

612
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:35,340
to be honest. Yeah. They also have a cool one called like the grid boss,

613
00:50:35,340 --> 00:50:39,220
I think it's called. The grid boss. Oh, flex boss.

614
00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:42,580
The grid box is like the integration thing. This is the bigger one.

615
00:50:42,580 --> 00:50:46,300
And to be clear, there are also like, there's other companies that make these.

616
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:49,540
The EG4 one worked pretty good. You can power your neighborhood, dude.

617
00:50:49,580 --> 00:50:53,220
Yeah. I don't know that we will for sure use this,

618
00:50:53,220 --> 00:50:57,260
but this is something that they said that they had and that was cool.

619
00:50:57,260 --> 00:51:01,060
We might need to use like two or three though. It really depends,

620
00:51:01,060 --> 00:51:04,060
because you were telling me you wanted to be able to charge your car off of this.

621
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:06,500
Like you talking charging your car at full rate?

622
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:11,260
Cause that's like, that's a few. I don't think I would,

623
00:51:11,260 --> 00:51:15,500
I don't think I would expect to actually charge my car off it. That seems stupid.

624
00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:18,860
I mean, That seems pretty dumb. What is it? With that said, now,

625
00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:22,100
you could charge your car off. Is it a 30 amp or? Very little.

626
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:25,540
I think it's a 30 amp, yes. But is that actually the charge rate?

627
00:51:25,540 --> 00:51:30,060
Like it's a 40? No, it's pretty weak. I like got the wrong ones, basically.

628
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:34,380
I asked for a specific one and then the contractors ordered a different one

629
00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:38,780
from the same company. And I was like, yo, that's not what I asked for.

630
00:51:38,780 --> 00:51:41,780
Oh, I know which one you have. It's the dual head one. Yeah, it's the dual head one,

631
00:51:41,780 --> 00:51:45,940
but they have a different one that would do full speed off of one head.

632
00:51:45,940 --> 00:51:49,140
But this one is the cheaper one that only does half speed off of each one.

633
00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:52,700
Oh, it's this one. It's the Sun Country one, right? Yeah, something like that.

634
00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:56,340
Yeah, okay. So it's like 40 amps total, but when you're charging two cars,

635
00:51:56,340 --> 00:52:00,180
you get 16 amps each. So this is a 7.7 kilowatt.

636
00:52:00,180 --> 00:52:03,180
Yeah. This is the one. It actually takes like a minute

637
00:52:03,180 --> 00:52:06,740
to charge my car. I mean, to be fair for your use case, it's probably fine. It's totally fine.

638
00:52:06,740 --> 00:52:12,940
But we could get some, we could get some ubiquity EV stations. Yeah, I've been, I'll do it eventually.

639
00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:16,980
I don't know if there's CSA approved yet. That could be a thing. That could be a problem.

640
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:20,940
But anyways, so that's- These are hardwired. This is not that much though.

641
00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:27,020
No, no, well, it's not that much in terms of like the rate of charge,

642
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:31,100
but just having batteries in your yard

643
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:34,820
so that you can charge the batteries in your car feels a little silly.

644
00:52:34,820 --> 00:52:38,180
Well, it is. Right. You are, yes.

645
00:52:38,180 --> 00:52:42,020
Yes. Okay, I'm glad we got there. All right, so anyway.

646
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:45,140
What are we supposed to be talking about? We're supposed to be doing merge messages, so.

647
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:48,460
Wait, I wanna do one. I've never done this before. Oh my God, this guy, he's like,

648
00:52:48,460 --> 00:52:52,220
he doesn't even wanna go. I gotta go on a flight too. Oh yeah, right.

649
00:52:52,220 --> 00:52:55,940
Have you never done a WAN? Not in a long time, brother.

650
00:52:55,940 --> 00:52:59,860
Like Christmas, years ago. And nobody does WAN anymore.

651
00:52:59,860 --> 00:53:04,700
Yeah, we're on the streak, so. Introverted boys over here.

652
00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:08,340
Yeah, so have you packed? Dude, I did all my laundry yesterday.

653
00:53:08,340 --> 00:53:12,180
I'm proud. Usually I'm doing laundry at 11 p.m. the night before.

654
00:53:12,180 --> 00:53:15,540
Nice. Yeah, I mean. It's pretty good actually. I know.

655
00:53:15,580 --> 00:53:19,260
Yesterday too. Wow. Actually, I don't wanna, I'm good.

656
00:53:19,260 --> 00:53:23,260
I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. You were sick, you got me sick.

657
00:53:23,260 --> 00:53:27,980
You know what I said? I'm gonna be so mad if you got me sick. I'm like sniffily now, and it's your fault.

658
00:53:27,980 --> 00:53:32,180
Why did I touch you? Why would I touch you? I got it for a turn of center.

659
00:53:32,180 --> 00:53:36,500
Nobody else I know is sick, and I've barely been around anyone else other than you,

660
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:40,220
and you were like actively sniffily. Oh boy. It's your fault.

661
00:53:40,220 --> 00:53:44,220
All right, well, that's possible. All right, fine. I've logged in to the thing.

662
00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:47,420
I'll explain merch messages. I'll just hack Luke's account here, hold on.

663
00:53:47,420 --> 00:53:50,500
Merch messages are the way to interact with the show,

664
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:53,500
and we've got some pretty exciting reasons

665
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:57,900
to send a merch message. It worked. We have, that's right my friends,

666
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:02,460
our biggest t-shirt expansion ever.

667
00:54:02,460 --> 00:54:05,620
Is it tall? We have three fantastic, hold on, I'm getting to it.

668
00:54:05,620 --> 00:54:08,740
We have three fantastic new colors,

669
00:54:08,740 --> 00:54:14,140
sky, forest, and chocolate. This right here is sky, this is forest,

670
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:18,100
and this is chocolate. Excuse me? I'm just messing with them.

671
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:21,780
And you can get all of these new colors as a short sleeve.

672
00:54:21,780 --> 00:54:25,180
Oh, that is long. Or a long sleeve. You can get them in regular,

673
00:54:25,180 --> 00:54:28,180
and you can get them in tall sizing. Wow.

674
00:54:28,180 --> 00:54:31,420
Let's go. Look at his arms. Let's go.

675
00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:34,780
This is a medium. Look at his arms. I'm six foot two. Hey.

676
00:54:34,780 --> 00:54:39,180
That is crazy. Yeah. Look, I'm repping the brand.

677
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:43,420
On top of that, we added tall sizing and long sleeve options

678
00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:47,940
for our core colors, black, and olive. So there's a whole lot of new t-shirts

679
00:54:47,940 --> 00:54:51,940
that you can now get at LMG.gg slash t-shirt.

680
00:54:51,940 --> 00:54:57,820
Check it out, boys. Let's go. Man, we've got some mileage at LMG.gg.

681
00:54:57,820 --> 00:55:02,260
That domain is like 60 bucks a year. It's affordable.

682
00:55:02,260 --> 00:55:06,980
I know, that's a lot. Is it? Domains cost $8.

683
00:55:06,980 --> 00:55:10,020
I don't know how much domains cost. I don't know. What could it cost, Michael?

684
00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:14,220
$10. Yeah, but literally it cost $10.

685
00:55:14,220 --> 00:55:21,180
Nobody commented about that. OK, we also have to announce we have pre-tariff pricing

686
00:55:21,180 --> 00:55:26,820
on MCM at lttstore.com, the US version.

687
00:55:26,820 --> 00:55:30,180
So we have pre-tariff pricing on individual magnetic cable

688
00:55:30,180 --> 00:55:34,140
management components this week. And if you were wondering, global customers,

689
00:55:34,140 --> 00:55:39,100
you already have pre-tariff pricing when converted to USD. In fact, it's actually a little bit cheaper than that.

690
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:44,300
So you can shop now at LMG.gg slash MCM.

691
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:47,500
Check them out. There you go.

692
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:51,260
Anyway, as for what you can do with that purchase,

693
00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:56,140
when you add it to your cart, you can leave a merge message. It'll be a little box, and it'll go to producer Dan,

694
00:55:56,140 --> 00:56:00,300
there he is, who will curate your message for me and Luke.

695
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:04,860
Also, he's here this week for some reason. For me and Luke, or he will respond to it himself,

696
00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:07,860
or forward it to someone who will address it later.

697
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:12,540
So Dan, do we have a couple of merge messages so you can show the people how they work?

698
00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:18,220
I do. I've got one here from Lanky Person.

699
00:56:18,220 --> 00:56:22,060
Yeah, lots of blank, tall sizes. Why hello, LLD.

700
00:56:22,060 --> 00:56:26,220
As a recently diagnosed ADHD person, what are some of the pros or cons you all

701
00:56:26,220 --> 00:56:29,260
find about both having and working with an ADHD person?

702
00:56:29,260 --> 00:56:34,220
Well, working with. Luke, why don't you answer that one? What's it like working with an ADHD person?

703
00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:38,060
All three of us. You guys saw it earlier, where he was like,

704
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:42,700
oh, we're not going to be able to get too far of a run.

705
00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:46,300
And then it's like, no, we're putting it outside.

706
00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:49,980
Luke, do you have an answer? He disconnected for a second.

707
00:56:49,980 --> 00:56:54,860
He might just be ignoring it. Maybe he doesn't want to anymore. Frankly, I couldn't blame him.

708
00:56:54,860 --> 00:56:57,980
It's cool because you can. His mic's not working.

709
00:56:57,980 --> 00:57:02,300
Oh, bummer. It's a superpower, and it is also your worst nightmare

710
00:57:02,300 --> 00:57:05,860
at the same time. I mean, you being the person that's asking,

711
00:57:05,860 --> 00:57:10,540
I'm sure you're aware of this. You can focus so hard when you're in the zone,

712
00:57:10,540 --> 00:57:14,860
but when you're not in the zone, you cannot focus on,

713
00:57:14,860 --> 00:57:18,060
does that button work? How do I do it? Maybe.

714
00:57:18,060 --> 00:57:22,740
Is it going to be a problem if it doesn't work? I don't know. That's right. Do it, do it.

715
00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:26,740
What was I even going to say? See that? That is what it is.

716
00:57:26,740 --> 00:57:30,580
And you don't get to pick when you're focused. Exactly.

717
00:57:30,580 --> 00:57:34,380
And you also don't get to pick when you stop focusing,

718
00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:38,180
which is also bad. That would be a great superhero.

719
00:57:38,180 --> 00:57:41,660
Has anyone ever done that as a superhero gimmick, where they like.

720
00:57:41,660 --> 00:57:45,460
Focus man. Like they can't pick when their powers are active and not.

721
00:57:45,460 --> 00:57:51,540
Well, you kind of seen that when like Spider-Man's learning. It's like when you play Baldur's Gate with wild magic on.

722
00:57:51,540 --> 00:57:55,660
And his hands just like stick to things. And he's like, ah, I can't remove my hand from stuff.

723
00:57:55,660 --> 00:57:58,700
Is Luke doing that thing when you're working from home

724
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:02,020
and you're like on a meeting? Is he just looping?

725
00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:05,620
Yeah. Is he not even there? It's like AI Luke.

726
00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:09,460
Can you hear us? I don't think he knows that. I don't know what's going on.

727
00:58:09,460 --> 00:58:12,900
Here, let's indicate that we're talking to him. Hi, Luke.

728
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:16,660
Hello, Luke. Can you see us?

729
00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:19,660
Is he frozen? No, he's not. Are you sure?

730
00:58:19,660 --> 00:58:24,260
Yeah. Are we getting mean stuff right now? No.

731
00:58:24,260 --> 00:58:28,660
Luke. OK. Are you there? Yeah, I think he's OK.

732
00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:32,140
I think he's going to be OK. What?

733
00:58:32,140 --> 00:58:37,580
I would say the biggest challenge is managing the bursty productivity.

734
00:58:37,580 --> 00:58:42,940
Yeah. And I mean that both for myself and for unnamed people

735
00:58:42,940 --> 00:58:46,860
on our team who also are somewhat neurodivergent.

736
00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:50,180
Because you'll run into a situation where,

737
00:58:50,180 --> 00:58:54,220
and like back when I was a much more integral part

738
00:58:54,220 --> 00:58:58,580
of the video pre-production timeline or pipeline,

739
00:58:59,220 --> 00:59:02,620
I would have this issue where two out of the five days

740
00:59:02,620 --> 00:59:07,620
of the work week, I would get realistically everything done.

741
00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:11,660
And then the other three, I'd be all over the place.

742
00:59:11,660 --> 00:59:15,340
But on the other hand, it can also

743
00:59:15,340 --> 00:59:20,500
be a superpower during those times. Because it's like this endless fountain of creativity.

744
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:23,540
And you can push a bunch of little projects going

745
00:59:23,540 --> 00:59:28,380
and start a bunch of little fires and see what burns. And then you can hyper-focus and finish

746
00:59:28,380 --> 00:59:32,220
the other ones, but then also getting something finished,

747
00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:35,380
finished is really hard. Oh, man.

748
00:59:35,380 --> 00:59:39,940
I have so many things like I feel like I want to say. Because in my world, I have noticed

749
00:59:39,940 --> 00:59:44,500
since becoming the starting medication for this condition

750
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:48,940
has been an interesting experience. Because I feel like I start way more things than I used to.

751
00:59:48,940 --> 00:59:53,060
Before, I would get the procrastination of,

752
00:59:53,060 --> 00:59:56,060
I don't know if I can do this. So I'm just not even going to start.

753
00:59:56,140 --> 00:59:58,740
I fail before I even get there.

754
01:00:01,580 --> 01:00:06,180
So now I try, and I start doing something. And then, oh, man, I feel like I can just

755
01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:11,180
show a photo of this. My desk, maybe I'll just show you.

756
01:00:11,180 --> 01:00:14,780
Yeah, I can probably just show that on the show, right? Yeah, you can just send it to Dan.

757
01:00:14,780 --> 01:00:18,980
See that? Can I just hold it in front of the camera? No, you've got to send it to Dan.

758
01:00:18,980 --> 01:00:22,020
How do I send it to you, Dan? Teams. Teams. Oh, gross.

759
01:00:22,020 --> 01:00:25,260
Luke, Luke should be back now. See if you can follow closely. Yes.

760
01:00:25,260 --> 01:00:29,720
Nice. Welcome back. This is going to happen again, just as a warning.

761
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,480
It's not my fault. Hopefully we can recover faster next time.

762
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,440
Now we know. OK, I sent you a photo, Dan. Hopefully there's nothing incriminating in there.

763
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,600
I will. Oh, lordy. It's fine. It's like my desk.

764
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,880
Yeah, it's OK. Nothing important's ever leaked on WAN before.

765
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,920
Is there anything NDA on here? No, I think it's probably fine.

766
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:54,000
I think it's fine. There's a couple 3D printers. It's a vibe. You'll get the vibe immediately, though.

767
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,720
Whoop. There you go. OK, so this was my office yesterday.

768
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:03,440
Nice. Oh, no, you didn't get into a cleaning frenzy zone, did you?

769
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,600
Oh, yeah, I did. I cleaned my. I'll show you the after photo, too.

770
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,000
No, see, the second I saw that. Wait, you put it away. I was going to describe things.

771
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,960
OK, so. The second I saw that, I was like, you did the thing.

772
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,120
You were up late tidying, weren't you? No, actually, it was during.

773
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,800
Jake Tidy. It was the lights were still on. You can see this thing right here.

774
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,840
Is that like a dad joke bell? Yeah. Is it a real bell? Yeah.

775
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,160
That's impressive. It gives him dopamine. How did you like ADHD?

776
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,320
Oh, because you like Amazon ordered it. Wow, we're on the show.

777
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:35,280
That right there, that black thing is like a dry box for the 3D printer that's down here.

778
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,960
Nice. I printed it before that I had the 3D printer. It is still sitting in parts on my desk.

779
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,560
Now it is sitting in parts beside the 3D printer. Ready to go for something I will never put together.

780
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:50,160
Nice. The Prusa XL on the other side, I 3D printed an enclosure for it.

781
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,320
The Plexiglas I ordered from China is sitting in my closet.

782
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:59,600
And so are the rest of the parts for the enclosure that I will definitely put together at some point.

783
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,720
Those bins, they're all supposed to like on the bottom, the filament serves, they're all supposed to have

784
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,920
like little things in it to like pass the filament through. They don't.

785
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,320
I've had them for like two years. So these are all things I've started.

786
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,160
If you could see under the pile, there's like a BMW manual

787
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,920
clutch pedal, I was going to make a short throw one. I feel like this was legit.

788
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,520
I 3D scanned it. This is ADHD though. This could very well be my workspace.

789
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,240
I love that you had the intent of having a pegboard wall.

790
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,320
Oh yeah. And you have one tool on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like that. That is classic.

791
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,480
That's lower accurate, yeah. That is classic. That's the cannon.

792
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,680
By the way, I think your carpool mate is waiting for you.

793
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,880
Do you want me to leave right now? You're vibing.

794
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,440
OK, cool. Speaking of carpool, you see the cars up there?

795
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,080
Yeah. All right. Oh, those are tough.

796
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:53,560
But anyways, it's like I start more things. So that's cool, but also I don't finish as many.

797
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,000
That actually transitions us pretty well into something

798
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,840
that Luke and I need to talk about. Because what will happen first?

799
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,280
Will Luke complete Final Fantasy 6? Or will I finish painting my bike race?

800
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,520
Has been heating up. Hard.

801
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,000
Dude, you've been painting that bike. It was a cold war for a long time. Yeah.

802
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:18,720
And now it's guns are blazing. Dude, you started that before the Pi project, I'm pretty sure.

803
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,680
And that took ages.

804
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,840
Did that work? I really hope that worked. Yeah, I get to hear it because I'm monitoring differently.

805
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,760
So I will say this.

806
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,720
Do we want to talk about that later? Why don't we get to your merge message? We'll get to your merge message.

807
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,000
You told me it looks. Well, it's complicated.

808
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,000
OK, you know what? Let's talk about it now. Let's talk about it now.

809
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,040
Here we go. Dan. Yes, I did. I'm sending you a little video.

810
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,280
Sending you a little video. What even is this show anymore? Is there supposed to be topics?

811
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,400
There are topics. There's more than one. I'll tell you that. Have we done topics yet?

812
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:58,560
You've did one, I think. We did one. You've been talking about Powerwall and Garbage for an hour.

813
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,120
It's not Garbage. It's going to be quality. I hope. It's going to be quality.

814
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,680
What's the worst that could happen is house burns down. We'll just build another one.

815
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,040
That's what I was going to say. We'll build new children. That's content.

816
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:17,400
Yeah, it's fun. The cats is what I was concerned about. OK, so I got to the point where all the parts that

817
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,640
needed to be pink were pink.

818
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,640
I had two little drips. Two little drips.

819
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,560
You can show the second one first, Dan. But you know how to fix the drips, right?

820
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:32,400
Well, here's the problem. Because it's a combination of things.

821
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,320
Because I'm ambitious slash foolhardy sometimes.

822
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,680
See, I don't have the same issue with not starting things. I start things.

823
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:44,760
That's not a problem. But sometimes I start things that are too big.

824
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,320
Can I just say before you continue? I know exactly where you're going to go with this.

825
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,200
And I'm just I want to write it down. But it's in my brain. I just want you to know that I've acknowledged this.

826
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,360
I know where this is about to go. And I really hope that it's the same place.

827
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,920
OK, that was a little early, Dan. Go ahead. You're doing great, though.

828
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,640
OK, now I really know where this is going. So I have no problem starting things.

829
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,640
But sometimes I am a little too ambitious. So it's a combination of that.

830
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:13,400
And I think I, realistically, probably got some bad advice at some stage in the paint selection

831
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:20,160
process, because I ended up with a, let's see, 1, 2, 3,

832
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:25,640
4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.

833
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:31,000
Anywhere from about an 11 to a 12 layer paint.

834
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,560
That is a lot of layers. Yeah, so we got two primer.

835
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,880
Like different kinds of primer or the same primer? The same primer. Yeah, OK.

836
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:43,200
Two of a solid base, a white. And that is all easy.

837
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:48,360
Getting it primed and white, no problem.

838
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,720
But I have, then after that, a candy.

839
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:57,480
And candy is tough. Can you clarify how many coats are supposed to be on this?

840
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,760
Because for about 11 to 12. For the end, OK, so this is right.

841
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:06,120
So for the uninitiated, some of the complicated paint coats can be like, here you throw down a base coat of a certain

842
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,400
color, and then a color coat. And then you have a pearl coat.

843
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,640
And then you have clear coat. Or maybe you have tinted clear coat. Wow, there's a lot of stages.

844
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:19,520
Yeah. So I have. This is one of those. So the four of the primer and then the base color,

845
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:24,080
four to five, realistically, to get really good coverage with the white, because it doesn't cover very well

846
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,120
once you get it reduced for the gun.

847
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:32,400
So that's easy. You get a nice even color. If I were to just paint my bike white, OK,

848
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:37,640
and just clear coat that, I would have been done ages ago.

849
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:43,080
But the pink. The pink candy is a nightmare to get even.

850
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,240
And I picked the hardest possible thing to paint with it.

851
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:51,760
Because if I was doing a hood of a car, that's easy.

852
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,600
Relatively speaking. I think you would have a lot of paint people that would also

853
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,720
say a flat surface is easy, but also hard.

854
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,720
Sure. It's easier to fix the scrubs that you will inevitably have.

855
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,400
A multifaceted three-dimensional piece

856
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:11,680
with nowhere to frickin' hold it. And all these different tiny little surfaces

857
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:16,120
is really hard to get even. And I finally, and wheels.

858
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,640
Yeah, I was just going to say, wait till you try wheels. OK.

859
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,640
I have progress, though. I have progress on the wheels. But anyway, hold on.

860
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,560
First, Dan, bring up the picture. I had two little drips.

861
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,000
Two little drips in the pink. And I actually found a technique to fix them.

862
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,160
Fixing candy? You read online, they say it's impossible. And it's basically impossible.

863
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,520
But I found a technique that actually worked. You can kind of see it in the very bottom right.

864
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,680
Where it was a little bit too big to work on this one. But I almost fixed that spot.

865
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:47,640
Are you talking about the part where all the paint is missing? No, no, no. In the very, very bottom right of the gray part.

866
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,080
Which part? I don't know, Dan. Could you have a mouse cursor?

867
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,960
Can you even? I'm trying. Whatever. There's a little spot that almost has kind of a little white

868
01:07:54,960 --> 01:08:00,200
out there. I think I see it. So basically, what happened there was we kind of peeled it back

869
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,600
and then masked around and then used a little airbrush

870
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,880
for doing those temp tattoos. Little airbrush, got it on there.

871
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,520
What was the defect? Was this like a dust nib? Oh, it was an awful drip.

872
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,520
I don't even know where it came from. Oh, a drip. Yeah. So it was like purple.

873
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:19,800
Like it went on so heavy, it was like purple in that spot. So we got it off, managed to put that on.

874
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:24,880
It wouldn't have looked great, but it would have been passable for the level of quality that I've resigned to at this point.

875
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:29,880
And this is pre-clear coat. But yeah. But when I went to pull the masking tape off,

876
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:35,560
it ripped that whole strip off. So Dan, do you want to bring up the video?

877
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,960
That shouldn't have happened. I don't think that was supposed to happen.

878
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:44,640
Not even a little. I don't think your paint is bonded very well. Well, I can tell you that the white is bonded real good

879
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,640
to the primer because this is how long it took to get the white

880
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,680
off the primer. It doesn't look like anything's coming out.

881
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,320
Oh, it's coming out. Oh yeah, you can see it. Wow, it's really on there.

882
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,960
On the entire front fairing piece of my bike,

883
01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:04,640
it took like four and a half hours. Oh.

884
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,000
So I was at the point where everything was pink coated,

885
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:16,440
and then this happened. The good news is this piece is now white, needs to be sanded,

886
01:09:16,440 --> 01:09:21,280
white one more time, and then I'm ready to paint it pink again, and I'm not going to get a drip on it this time.

887
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,320
And Jake, I figured out wheels. What do you mean?

888
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,360
My wheels look like butt right now. Yeah.

889
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,600
So I'm re-white coating them. But we finally found a technique.

890
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,120
So in order to get the candy on there even, we made this.

891
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:39,040
Dan, you can move that. Who is we? Yvonne's been helping me a little bit.

892
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,360
So we roped her into this. Yeah, we took my drill, and then we

893
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:48,600
took a bunch of rolls of tape, like small ones that fit in the big ones, and basically made like a spinny wheel

894
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,840
on it. And so she basically watches for a landmark

895
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,200
as it turns around and is like, OK, three, two, one, go.

896
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:00,320
And I start spraying. And then she's like, OK, three, two, one, go.

897
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,080
And I move it off. And it's like, this is spinning the wheel, right?

898
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,200
Yeah, while she's spinning it with the drill, with like a big tape roll thing on it.

899
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,400
So I actually 3D printed a thing recently because I bought new wheels.

900
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,360
Of course. Yeah, because I wanted to ceramic coat them. Of course, the both of those.

901
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I 3D printed a thing so I could spin the wheel

902
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:22,280
while I was ceramic coating it and then proceeded to not use it.

903
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:27,000
I just, I have it. If you're only doing a solid color, it doesn't matter.

904
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,040
It's not that hard. But if you are, if you're doing a candy

905
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,960
and I'm not even going for the whole thing, one solid candy.

906
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,720
So I'm doing a pink stripe. You know, they make like candy powder coating too, right?

907
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,440
Yeah, well, I didn't do that. And it would have been stronger and cheaper and.

908
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:47,320
They wouldn't have matched, though. What? If you did all of them.

909
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:52,040
Yeah, but it's not just the candy. There's the two layers of candy and then there's the two layers of pearl.

910
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,520
Yeah, well, it wouldn't have been the exact same thing. But it would have been pretty nice.

911
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,160
It probably would have been better overall, to be honest. This is great.

912
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,440
Also, Beltrick says, just pay a professional, Mr. Millionaire.

913
01:11:02,440 --> 01:11:07,720
That is not the point. What would I even do if I just paid people to do things?

914
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,680
What would I do? What would I do? That comment bothered so many people.

915
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:16,280
I responded to it. Somebody else in chat responded to it.

916
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,320
You responded to it. We're all just like, what? No. That is not the point.

917
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,000
So is the point that you should have just left it?

918
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,680
Oh, just like left it silver? No, we'll left the fact. Oh, 100% should have done that.

919
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,680
The drip. Could you not?

920
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,120
Because I've seen people do drip repairs before.

921
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,880
I've seen techniques where they fill the surround with Bondo

922
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,240
and then sand it down so that you're sanding down the Bondo on the outside

923
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:46,000
and not ruining the rest of it. I've seen techniques where they just strip everything down and do it again.

924
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,200
I've seen it where they cut it with a knife, right? So I basically did the knife thing.

925
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:55,280
But the only issue is that when I peeled it up, it hadn't cured enough yet.

926
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,720
It was too fresh. That was bare metal, wasn't it? Because no, no, that was primer.

927
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:04,080
So I did the same thing on my tank and the tank worked.

928
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:10,520
Did you actually can't find the spot on the tank? Did you not like sand enough between the primer and the top coat?

929
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,800
So let's see, that was on the...

930
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,600
Was it too long between? Too little between?

931
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,800
I think it could have been too long between the primer coat.

932
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,720
But I think it was just mostly that it hadn't been long enough

933
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,120
since I did the pink on the white.

934
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:34,200
Well, when this is done, I think it would be really fun for us to polish it.

935
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,360
Oh, God. I want you and me, we should polish it.

936
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,800
No, we should. It'll be fun. It'll make it look so much better. Dude.

937
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,160
You have to polish it after, otherwise, it's just not going to look good.

938
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,760
You're going to get rid of all the dust nibs and stuff? Yeah, you actually do. You actually need to.

939
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,200
Yeah, that's going to look like crap. That's like requirement, even if you clear coat it. Yeah.

940
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,920
I mean, usually when a body shop polishes stuff after they paint it,

941
01:12:54,920 --> 01:13:01,840
it looks like crap, like we fix so many like body shop tried to polish a car.

942
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:08,360
Oh, yeah. I have enough hours in this project that for you to say anything that sounds

943
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:12,480
anything like more hours is just going to make me instantly recoil.

944
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:19,000
It'll only take a couple days. You should right now just put everything in a bin and go to a powder coating shop.

945
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,800
All your problems. That's what I'm going to do with my wheels. I'm not going to bother.

946
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,280
Can you powder coat plastic? I don't know. I'm not aware of that.

947
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:30,400
I mean, that piece you were looking at was plastic. So yeah, you're going to try candy.

948
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:35,840
I should probably. That's that's. Oh, OK. That's that's part of the nightmare of painting a bike is that I have steel

949
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,840
pieces, aluminum pieces and plastic pieces and they're going to be seven

950
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:44,000
different colors, even though he painted a traditional powder coating.

951
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,120
Does not work on plastic. I think I would melt.

952
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:51,160
You have to bake it. I think I've seen plastic, fancy plastic powder coat stuff.

953
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,320
Yeah, I'm sure I do. There's enough material science these days.

954
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:59,760
I'm sure somebody figured something out. Anyway, drive, drive safe industrial methods seem to something, something,

955
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,800
whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Powder coating is cool, though. Anyways, goodbye. Drive safe.

956
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,960
See you later, Luke. Bye. See a Linus, I guess.

957
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,120
Yeah, he he never acknowledges me when I tell him to drive safe.

958
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:17,520
Oh, no, I usually say I won't. I also say the same thing to my mom and she doesn't like it.

959
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,160
No, she wouldn't. Neither do I. Yeah, yeah.

960
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:25,280
See you later. So this time this time he crosses the camera.

961
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:29,760
Do you know you figured it out that is better to just quickly go that way

962
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,240
than to painstakingly make his way across over here.

963
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,280
So I have updates as well. No, he's back.

964
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:43,360
Oh, oh. You later. Jeez, OK.

965
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,200
OK, so how's your OK? So hold on, I should probably give the update.

966
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:53,520
So all but that piece that need to be pink are pink, but they still need two

967
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,960
more pearl coats and then two to three clear coats before I can actually

968
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,440
like drop anything off for reassembly with the shop.

969
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,200
So you definitely can't finish before 2 a.m.

970
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:11,280
Are you going to be done today? No, but you're going to be leaving the country.

971
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,520
Oh, yeah. Thus away from your bike.

972
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,480
Yes. And luckily, my project is portable.

973
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:24,640
Yeah. OK, all right. How many how many of the party have you reassembled in the world of ruin?

974
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,000
I'm in the world of ruin. OK, but just barely.

975
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,240
Oh, but I still think I still think I'm going to beat you.

976
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,280
OK, I'm going to beat you. OK, I still think I'm going to beat you.

977
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:41,920
Yeah, I. The reason why it's not that good is because I also had a progress issue.

978
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,720
Oh, no, I lost a save.

979
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:50,040
Oh, what? How do you lose a save? You're playing on steam.

980
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:54,160
I genuinely have no idea. I have no idea.

981
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,400
What? How much did you lose? Something happened with quite a bit.

982
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,080
Something happened with Cloud Sync.

983
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,600
I like I, you know, I pre-installed it on my laptop.

984
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,680
I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. I pre-installed it on my laptop

985
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:14,000
because I knew a fair amount of playtime while I was on the strip was going to be offline.

986
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:19,800
This is Final Fantasy six. Because as it'll inflate, plain chat.

987
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,600
So I, yeah, I installed it like at my house ahead of time.

988
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:28,840
Cloud synced everything before I left. And then on the plane, I loaded it up and it was like.

989
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,320
Way earlier than where I was, like, like many hours lost.

990
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:41,440
Oh, no. Which usually, like I have quit games over that before.

991
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,760
Like just fully, just whatever. I'm like, no, forget it.

992
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,000
I'm out. Yeah, that's it. But this is a challenge, a competition of sorts.

993
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,560
I almost quit Final Fantasy Tactics over an issue like that.

994
01:16:54,440 --> 01:16:59,840
Yeah, I've done this many times. Yeah, I got to the, I got to the notorious fight

995
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,840
where if you don't happen to build Ramza correctly,

996
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:11,680
you literally can't win it. And I, I ended up, I thought I had lost like 10 hours,

997
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:16,920
but I had only lost like three or four. So I, so I stuck it out, but I was so mad.

998
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:21,920
I was so mad. I think we've, every gamer has probably felt that.

999
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,800
And it's just like the rage to how much this matters ratio

1000
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:31,200
is probably the highest out of anything that I've ever experienced. Because at the end of the day, it's a video game.

1001
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,400
Oh, it's so it doesn't matter at all. But the rage is so high.

1002
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,240
So that was, that was me like

1003
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:45,680
probably an hour into my flight because I didn't pull up the laptop immediately.

1004
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:52,280
You know, I kind of got settled. You have to wait for the the belt thingy to the buckle thingy

1005
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:57,600
to the light to go off, all that kind of stuff. I finally get the laptop. I load it up and I just stare at it for a while,

1006
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:02,600
thinking like there's got to be some way to fix this, right? And like, obviously, no.

1007
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,800
Livin says, just grind to level Eryth, she'll be great later in the game.

1008
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:18,640
Yeah. So, yeah, so I I pushed really hard.

1009
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:23,240
I was for some context, it went so far back, I had no espers.

1010
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,760
Like I lost multiple saves worth and I don't understand

1011
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:35,000
what at all what happened. Oh, that's wild. Like, I don't know.

1012
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,960
But that's a long time ago on the one flight.

1013
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:44,080
Because I've now I've done this. So now I know what I'm doing.

1014
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,880
I know where I'm going, those types of things.

1015
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:53,160
I realize that the some of the things in the game are very weird.

1016
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,640
Like some of Sabin's stuff scale off of magic,

1017
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,880
even though he's like a martial arts guy and stuff like that.

1018
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:05,160
Oh, yeah. Things things are just kind of odd. But now I know those things.

1019
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,920
So I just got into like a way more experienced run than go mode.

1020
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:14,160
And I got to past where I was before on the one flight,

1021
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,160
which is like wildly compressed before compared to before.

1022
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,640
And I'm I'm kind of flying.

1023
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,360
I'm I'm much more knowledgeable now on like, you know, checking for

1024
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,640
weaknesses and hitting things with the right magic and stuff like that.

1025
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,040
So like the the fight to get to the floating continent.

1026
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,280
It's blitzed through it. Oh, it was ridiculous.

1027
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:45,200
Yeah, it ended up being so easy. Like, I think you commented last time we talked about this,

1028
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:51,960
you commented about how the Pixel remasters too easy, I think you said. Yeah, I get to that fight with Ultras and

1029
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:58,000
whatever his big buddy is, whatever. Yeah, something or something.

1030
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,960
I think I like two shot Ultras.

1031
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,520
Like just OK, so you're like you're like super overpowered now then.

1032
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,240
I'm jacked. Yeah. All right.

1033
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,400
And like, I'm doing better about like making sure that I'm min maxing.

1034
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,440
OK, how many having the right Esper on the right person when they level up to gain the bonus.

1035
01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:18,800
How many characters do you have in the world of ruin?

1036
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,800
Oh, no, no key suggested a poll, Dan, do it, do it.

1037
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,800
Whether Luke will finish Final Fantasy 6 or I will finish painting the SV 650.

1038
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,800
Sure, give me one second. Now, hold on a second, hold on, we got to define completion here.

1039
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,800
Is Luke allowed to like look up guides when he gets to the world of ruin?

1040
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,800
Or does he use the paper manual?

1041
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:43,800
I think.

1042
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,800
Paper manual is all I had when I was a kid.

1043
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,040
I feel like it's got to be paper, but you're getting help from a Vaughn.

1044
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,480
Not much for what it's worth.

1045
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:03,240
And I'm there working on it every time. I will say I am completely down with whatever judgment comes here.

1046
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,880
OK, and I'm totally fine with paper, man. Honestly, no, let's do paper manual.

1047
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,040
Is my completion complete when I finish painting it

1048
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,880
or when the shop assembles the bike?

1049
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:18,280
I feel like when are you going to let your beard grow up?

1050
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,480
When I'm done painting, not when the shop finishes assembly.

1051
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:26,840
No, no, no, I'll do when I'm done. When I'm done painting, I'm done like I don't need the mask anymore.

1052
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:33,480
Then personally, I think it's paint. OK, I'm making this harder for myself.

1053
01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:39,880
I'm saying paper manual and you can just finish when you're painting. But I think both of those things make sense as much as I'm some people are saying

1054
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,680
they think I should be OK, just for to catch you guys up.

1055
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:47,440
The the bet is whether Luke will finish Final Fantasy 6,

1056
01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:53,720
a game that I've been bugging him to play basically since we met, because it was like my favorite childhood game, even though I have realized

1057
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,600
in also playing through the Pixel remaster at the same time as him,

1058
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:04,680
because I got it in my head at some point that I was going to be super ambitious and both finish Final Fantasy 6 and paint my bike in the time it took him to finish it.

1059
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,400
Anyway, that's not happening. Or if I will finish painting my motorcycle,

1060
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,480
which has been an ongoing project for, I think, about two years now.

1061
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:18,000
Oh, OK, I'm going to look at the results.

1062
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:23,960
I'm ready to see the results. I'm kind of afraid to look at the results.

1063
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,280
OK, I'm looking at the results.

1064
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,280
Who will finish first? Come on.

1065
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:36,680
Move it over. Sorry, sorry, I'll move it. I'll move it. Normally, with this question, you think it'd be the other way around.

1066
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,400
But 80 percent. Yeah.

1067
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,120
Wow. Three kids, buddy.

1068
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:47,720
Three kids. Yeah, exactly.

1069
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,040
Get that other pull out of there. We all know they all use Firefox.

1070
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:03,040
Jeez. Well, you know what? You know what, haters, I'm going to go home tonight and I'm going to pack

1071
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,000
and I'm going to do some sanding. Yeah, sure.

1072
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:12,560
How how much? Because I know no way when

1073
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:18,000
when honestly, when the when the ship flying thing was happening,

1074
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,720
when I was getting to the floating continent. Yeah, I thought the game was ending.

1075
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,240
This is the final fantasy.

1076
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:33,560
I suppose you imagine that the final boss only has two phases, right?

1077
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:41,040
Yeah, I have no idea. The only other final fantasy I've played through is eight and with eight

1078
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:46,440
I played it through on PC. So you had all the discs. So you kind of knew, right?

1079
01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:48,200
Like there's more content coming, right?

1080
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:55,160
When. When I when I hit floating continent, I was like, oh,

1081
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,480
OK, I guess there's more to this.

1082
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,600
There's a lot more to it. Yeah, I kind of got that vibe.

1083
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:12,040
I also started kind of mulling over like, all right, well,

1084
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,440
there's like a level cap and stuff at my level is not very high.

1085
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,480
I don't know if you're expected to hit the level cap because I'm like, I don't know, I can't like Pokemon.

1086
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:24,120
You're not at all. OK, cool. Yeah, no, not even a little.

1087
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,520
Do you remember what the stakes are of this bet? No, he's asking.

1088
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:35,400
Are there stakes? I don't even remember. It was so long ago that I literally cannot remember the

1089
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,480
circumstances of us making this bet. I don't think there was. It was just sort of like.

1090
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,680
Honor underestimate how hard we will try.

1091
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,120
It was a friendly handshake kind of bragging rights type of thing.

1092
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:53,040
Yeah. Yeah, I don't honestly. I got so focused on who says maybe we should vote again

1093
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,120
after hearing you talk about how you thought the game was over

1094
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:00,160
and you're at the halfway mark. Well, I'm not looking stuff up.

1095
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:05,680
I'm trying to like and honestly, it hit a lull there the last time I was playing.

1096
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,640
Yeah, it's cooking again. The game's fun again right now.

1097
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,760
How many characters do you have in the world of Ruin?

1098
01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:18,200
I'd have to load it up. OK, you have more than one, though.

1099
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,600
Do you have you have Tara? Yeah, yeah. Oh, OK, you're OK.

1100
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,480
You're moving pretty good, then he's moving pretty good, boys.

1101
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:30,280
I will say that I definitely hit a lull again

1102
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:35,520
to the point where I just like haven't played it again after where we are.

1103
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,920
Oh, yeah, OK. With most of the party, I mean, the game is long.

1104
01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:44,400
It's such a long game. It makes sense that there'd be multiple lull points.

1105
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:51,240
The only thing I'm not really enjoying right now is that it feels like it has a man.

1106
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,440
It's a great game. I need to be very clear about that before I complain about anything.

1107
01:25:54,480 --> 01:25:59,600
It's fantastic. But if I played this game at like the same time that you did,

1108
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,360
this would probably be in my like top three all time. I'm not even I'm not surprised.

1109
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,720
It is good. It has an edge perfectly.

1110
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,080
Yeah, and I think one of the things that has made it not age perfectly

1111
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:14,680
is it came from an era where people would like in a review of a game,

1112
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,000
people would include the estimated completion time.

1113
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,480
And if it was too short, they'd complain. People would rate it lowly.

1114
01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:30,320
And you know what? Which was dumb. Dude, that is something we never touch on when we discuss the cost of games over time.

1115
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:35,400
Because back when we were buying games for 60, 70 US dollars,

1116
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:40,440
but it was the mid 90s, games were fucking expensive.

1117
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:47,040
Like, I don't think I knew anyone as a kid who had more than like half a dozen games in their library for a given console.

1118
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:54,520
So your game needed to be long so you could get a lot of value. By the time you had five games, you had literally spent more than you spent

1119
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,200
on the console and controllers on the game titles, right?

1120
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,200
Like that was the dynamic.

1121
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,520
Whereas now we treat games like they're just disposable, you know?

1122
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:10,120
Like, oh, yeah, I tried that game. I didn't really like it. I like I played it for too long to get a steam refund.

1123
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:14,080
So like whatever. But it was eight dollars in the steam summer sale.

1124
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,600
So who cares? Yeah, you know, yeah, it's a totally different mentality.

1125
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,200
You know, like having more than four or five games was pretty surprising.

1126
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:25,840
So remember, people would do a lot of trade ins and stuff back then, too, because things are so expensive. Oh, no.

1127
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,880
Or you trade with your buddies or whatever. People say you'll love Expedition 33.

1128
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:34,640
Yeah, I I'm not going to play it right now

1129
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:39,240
because I need to finish fantasy six. But I wish listed it because it looks really cool.

1130
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:46,280
Yeah, I think you got time, Luke. I haven't I haven't finished rewinding the wheels yet.

1131
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:52,680
After I do that, I have to pink the wheels. After I do that, I have to mask the wheels.

1132
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,360
Then I have to black them. Then I have to clear coat them.

1133
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,680
And I was I was legitimately worried you're going to be done on this show.

1134
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,280
Dude, it has to start again. Dude, no.

1135
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:08,320
And and the scariest part of the whole thing is still coming

1136
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:13,960
because the frame, which I did pink ages ago, I never did the pro on.

1137
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:18,560
So it's been sitting there for about a year with just pink on it.

1138
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:23,440
So I have to clean it. I have to tack cloth it and then I have to.

1139
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:26,160
Oh, my God, I hope I succeed at this.

1140
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,480
Do my very first pearl coat. I haven't purled anything yet.

1141
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:37,360
So there's plenty of time for me to screw up and have to go back to square one on any number of different parts.

1142
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,920
Like I am I am many, many, many hours from completion on this.

1143
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:48,440
Yeah, I pulls just about the one thing I'm kind of noticing is just the.

1144
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,120
The kind of like I gain 15 points in the polls, though.

1145
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:58,400
Sorry, I'm listening. The time wasty bits.

1146
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:03,160
Oh, the grind. The grind. And I mean, that's that's a classic.

1147
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,240
You're coming up on some grindtastic parts.

1148
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:12,920
I'll tell you that much. Like some of the spells that have like one X growth rate and stuff.

1149
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,240
Oh,

1150
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,160
I'm being a little bit more intentional about like.

1151
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:28,280
Trying to actually use the espers to learn spells and back to the completion thing.

1152
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,280
Does he have to get the whole party together?

1153
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,760
And I'm not even talking about like optional characters like go go and you,

1154
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:41,640
Mario, I'm talking does he have to get the world of balance cast back together?

1155
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:46,440
Or can he just like try to take on Kefka's tower with like eight?

1156
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:53,000
People are saying any percent. They say any percent. You can do whatever you want.

1157
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,600
Almost everybody's saying no or any percent.

1158
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,280
But interesting to be. There's no way it's going to play a game like that.

1159
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,560
That's hilarious. There's I know this man too well. I already knew the answer before I asked the question.

1160
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,120
There's absolutely no way. No shot.

1161
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,880
Well, it was the answer. There's no way you're not going to get the whole team back together.

1162
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:15,400
There's just no way because I was going to say, I'm probably going to do it anyway.

1163
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:21,040
A huge part of what makes this game so special is the ensemble cast and you kind

1164
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,240
of get attached to them. He's not going to not go get fucking shadow.

1165
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,240
Like you got to be kidding me. You saved shadow, right?

1166
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,840
Of course. Oh, good. I thought he was going to say who.

1167
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:34,080
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, that's so funny.

1168
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:41,240
I got a little freaked out about it. I I did I did do a little worried save.

1169
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I was like, I don't know if this like he might

1170
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:49,560
actually just die, but I'm happy that he doesn't.

1171
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:56,800
Yeah. So I thought I'm going to I'm I'm the whole chat said any percent or no.

1172
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:03,800
But honestly, I'm I'm going to go get everyone. So it doesn't really make a difference for me because I'm planning on trying to get everybody.

1173
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,720
I didn't actually that was a mine. I don't care to be clear, but that's a minor spoiler

1174
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,360
because I didn't know if everyone was OK.

1175
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,640
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I actually wore them during my Asia trip, not that long ago. Oh, look at that.

1181
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1182
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:50,160
Oh, oh, my goodness. It rained so hard that day that was at Universal Studios.

1183
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,800
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because, and I quote, they didn't know about them.

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lifetime deal accounts had been deactivated as of April 28th.

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in 2023 in an asset only deal.

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So this new owner acquired the technology domain and customer database, but

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not the liabilities. That is a direct quote.

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What? Glorious. The new ownership claims that the previous owner did not disclose that thousands

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of LTDs or lifetime deals had been sold through platforms like stack social.

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later after finding that their resources were being strained by LTD customers who

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provided no sustaining income to the service.

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1232
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:43,920
VPN secure sent out an additional email this week reiterating that the acquisition

1233
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,800
was an asset only deal. Don't you understand?

1234
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:53,200
It was an asset only deal. And after we reviewed six to 12 months of VPN secure's previous financials before

1235
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:57,080
the purchase, the listing, profit and loss statements and communications never

1236
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:03,960
mentioned these lifetime deals. Yeah. But you see the P and L if you see the profit and loss, then what are we even

1237
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:09,080
talking about here? If it was an asset only deal, it should have quite literally

1238
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:16,280
canceled all subscriptions. Well, yeah, then you should have no, you can't have it both ways.

1239
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:24,920
You can't have the monthly subscriptions, but not the lifetime deal. You don't get to pick which customers you acquired VPN secure has offered

1240
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:30,400
affected users, discounted new subscriptions of $1.87 a month instead of

1241
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:37,120
$9.95 $19 for a year instead of $80 or $55 for three years instead of $107

1242
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,560
until the end of May. Here's a suggestion.

1243
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:45,920
How about you not buy anything from a company that treats you so disrespectfully?

1244
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:54,240
There's an idea. And I'm not even going to poison this segment by mentioning another VPN that

1245
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,280
you could sign up for, because that is not the point right now.

1246
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,400
The point right now is don't give them a dime.

1247
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:07,960
Not one penny. If you weren't worth it to them as a customer, who by the way, already paid

1248
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,520
for the service, then you aren't worth it to them as a customer.

1249
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:18,000
Period. That's how this works. Since March, there have apparently been 20 pages of one star reviews on

1250
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:22,560
TrustPilot and VPN secure is responding on TrustPilot, acknowledging it

1251
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,920
could have communicated better with customers.

1252
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:30,760
No, no, what you could have done is not reneg on a deal.

1253
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:36,040
Yeah, I don't think there's a way to communicate this better.

1254
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:47,040
I think I'm going to be pissed anyways. And it also says, despite not assuming the previous company's contracts or

1255
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:50,040
payments, that doesn't sound right. They had the monthlies, right?

1256
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:55,320
As far as I know, the new ownership says they kept the lifetime accounts

1257
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,800
active for two years as a gesture of goodwill. No, they didn't notice it.

1258
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,200
You didn't know. They made it very clear they didn't notice it.

1259
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,040
And then their third message claims the new owners didn't gain access to the

1260
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,680
customer database for months after the acquisition. Dude, I'm sorry.

1261
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:12,080
I just don't feel bad for you. That's, I'm sorry.

1262
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:19,560
I, there's no, there is absolutely no right answer here.

1263
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:27,040
I'm afraid. I hope the incredibly low cost of VPN users was worth the 20 pages and

1264
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:30,120
hopefully and probably more one star reviews you're having now.

1265
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:36,800
Idiots. Who's FA1 says, Luke, would you sue the company if you had a lifetime sub?

1266
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:41,800
Ugh. Come on. We all know the answer.

1267
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:50,360
No. Yeah. It's so much work and it's probably so expensive.

1268
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:57,240
Yeah, basically. And it's like, I think that's something that a lot of people don't necessarily

1269
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:02,560
consider is that it's really easy to make a video about how you're

1270
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,880
suing someone or whatever, actually following through on it, like to the

1271
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:11,800
point where there's an actual judgment and or settlement of some sort.

1272
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,160
That's like, it's a ton of work and it's boring.

1273
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:23,520
No one's interested in it. It's not content anymore. Only the initial announcement, you know, the big bombshell is content.

1274
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,040
Nothing else is content. So it's just going to die.

1275
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:32,320
And it's just, and it's like, you got to, you got to weigh the cost benefit, right?

1276
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:36,000
Like, what is Luke owed dozens of dollars?

1277
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,480
What's it going to cost to have even an exploratory call with a lawyer?

1278
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:48,240
Come on. Yeah. If somebody already set up a class action lawsuit, people are asking if I would

1279
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,680
join that and it's like, even then, man, like, what am I going to get from it?

1280
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:56,960
Like, I'm going to click one button and it's going to say, okay, I'm going to

1281
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,920
button. I don't know.

1282
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:07,640
Sure. I think the honestly, the biggest impact thing that I could do is to obviously

1283
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:11,960
never bring them my business again, go somewhere else, leave that one star review

1284
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:17,160
and try to get as many other people to do the same because if they have one star

1285
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:21,640
reviews everywhere, like if it's like, you know, there's trust pilot, but if they

1286
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:26,080
also have one star reviews on, I'm assuming they're on the app stores and

1287
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:30,400
everything else, they have just one star reviews everywhere and that's it.

1288
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,920
Unless they do a major rebrand, which is going to cost them a huge amount of

1289
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:39,480
money and kind of ruin a huge part of the reason why they bought this company.

1290
01:40:39,480 --> 01:40:47,800
Anyways, they're just like, there's so many VPNs out there.

1291
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:52,320
People aren't going to just go to the, the one star one constantly.

1292
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:56,360
Um, people are talking about small claims court.

1293
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:01,920
I can't speak to every other jurisdiction, but small claims court here is intended

1294
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:09,960
for like local defendants. Like I can't take some like Israeli or, you know, Chinese company to small

1295
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,000
claims court like that.

1296
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:18,600
Come on. They would have under what authority am I going to summon them to the courthouse?

1297
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:22,400
Like that, that's the thing, right? Like it, it's not happening.

1298
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:27,800
Um, anyway, someone says in the US, you can.

1299
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,520
Okay. Well, that's great. And I wish you luck with that.

1300
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:35,520
Um, but yeah, here it's woefully impractical.

1301
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:41,880
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know the nice voice crack. I don't know the, uh, the country lines thing.

1302
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:46,000
Like we're only going to be aware of our, our local stuff.

1303
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:50,600
And even then barely, if I'm being completely honest.

1304
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:54,240
Inception was says, if they don't show up, then the judge sides with you and

1305
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,360
small claims court. Yeah, that's nice. But so what?

1306
01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:59,640
How am I going to actually get anything from them?

1307
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:05,880
Is, is the judge also going to like get on a plane and go to their headquarters

1308
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:10,840
and like rough them out if they don't pay it? Definitely going to go get my colors.

1309
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:18,680
It's not, it's not actually that simple to actually get the money out of

1310
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:22,600
someone that supposedly has lost in small claims court.

1311
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,120
Um, all right.

1312
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:32,680
What else? What else we got this week? Do we want to talk about some good news?

1313
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,720
Yeah. This is so cool.

1314
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,360
Uh, here I'm going to, I'm going to fire up the promo that Phillips did.

1315
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:50,480
Let's go. This is like, dude, how is a company this big doing something this cool?

1316
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:56,000
I was stunned to be honest. Is this, this is real. This is real.

1317
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:59,320
That is incredible. This is real. Fixables.

1318
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:05,280
Dude, they partnered with Prusa. This was the point of 3D printing when it was first like coming onto the scene

1319
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:12,440
like a decade ago. Dude. So you could just like, oh my God, you could just make Phillips compatible

1320
01:43:12,440 --> 01:43:15,920
like replacement pieces and adapters and they've got a whole thing.

1321
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:19,720
Like, look, dude, this is so cool.

1322
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:23,000
They've got, they've got Joseph freaking Prusa and the promo for it.

1323
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:26,120
It's like the best news a WAN shows ever has. Right.

1324
01:43:26,440 --> 01:43:30,920
This is genuinely incredibly cool. They will have my business for this reason.

1325
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,360
I, yeah, 30 years ago. Yeah. Dude, I don't know anything.

1326
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:39,320
I don't, okay. I don't not know anything. I don't know much about Phillips, right?

1327
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:43,320
In, in the last, you know, 10 years, what have they done that's been on my radar?

1328
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:45,200
They have overpriced light bulbs.

1329
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:52,000
I don't know. They have like, oh, we use them here. The, the WAN set has the Phillips hue.

1330
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:59,320
Sure. Right. But like, like, have they done anything that has even remotely seemed this cool

1331
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,000
that has shown up on your guys's radar in the last decade?

1332
01:44:04,440 --> 01:44:10,400
Definitely not. But I don't think anyone in the spaces that Phillips operates in has either to

1333
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,800
defend them a little bit. Oh, no, no, no, I'm not attacking them. I'm not attacking them.

1334
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:18,040
I'm just making it clear for other people. They do a lot of health care stuff.

1335
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:22,960
Dude, this came completely out of nowhere for me.

1336
01:44:23,480 --> 01:44:29,840
Oh, me too. And I was just so, I was so excited to see this that I just didn't, I don't,

1337
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,800
I don't really know what else to say other than this is super cool.

1338
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:37,280
So they've teamed up with Prusa Research to launch Phillips fixables aiming to

1339
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:41,400
encourage self-repair of Phillips products using 3D printed replacement

1340
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,520
components, which will be available on printables.com.

1341
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:49,840
Phillips will include recommended print settings to ensure that your 3D printed

1342
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:55,320
parts are sturdy enough to be a long-term solution. And there's only one design so far, but the website and promo video show

1343
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,800
additional 3D printed parts for Phillips grooming products and users are able to

1344
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:03,760
submit requests for specific parts if they're not already available.

1345
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:07,680
So it's baby steps right now in the infancy.

1346
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:13,800
But right now, if this is what it seems to be on the surface, I am so amped.

1347
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:18,800
And this is enough for to significantly sway my purchase decisions between like

1348
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:24,240
a Phillips something or an Oral-B that thing or, you know, a Norel co-shaver

1349
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:28,360
or a Phillips shaver like I am, you know, I'm so in. Same here, same here.

1350
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:33,720
You know, what's interesting is people are talking about how apparently it's like trending on Thingiverse or whatever already.

1351
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:44,080
I wonder if this could be an interesting way to inform like product development.

1352
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:50,000
Because if you see that one part in comparison to all the other ones that

1353
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,600
you're you're offering, if they don't mind this really often, they're crazy.

1354
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:59,640
Yeah, you're like, wow, this one part seems to be breaking a lot. Let's let's re-engineer that a little bit on the next model and make it better.

1355
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:05,640
Or like everyone and their dog prints a number five and a half, you know,

1356
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:10,240
buzz cut guard. Maybe we should add that. That should be in the standard kit.

1357
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:15,240
You know, dude, that this is this is cash money or I hope it is.

1358
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,880
That's so killer. This kind of behavior should absolutely be rewarded.

1359
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:24,720
It will affect my purchase decisions easily. If there's a Phillips equivalent to something else, I'm reaching for the Phillips.

1360
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:28,040
Panda says Phillips is Norelco Law. OK, well, fine.

1361
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:30,640
Branding works then, I guess they've indoctrinated me.

1362
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,920
Someone in Full Plane Chat also said that they're in the market for a new

1363
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:41,200
beard trimmer and they're going to get a Phillips one now because of it. This is like this is where, you know, voting with your wallet works both ways.

1364
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:47,080
Right? Yeah. And I hate how often it has to be like a negative message.

1365
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:53,360
This is this is exciting. This is an opportunity for us to send a positive message.

1366
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:59,400
Gives me hope for the future. I was actually I went as far as ordering the replacement battery for my

1367
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:03,880
my electric toothbrush. I think it's a I want to say it's an oral B or something like that.

1368
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:08,920
And I was so I was so annoyed to discover how difficult it is to replace the battery in it.

1369
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:13,120
But I found out it's possible. And then I had a video title idea in my mind that was like

1370
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:20,520
my toothbrush shouldn't be this hard to fix. And the idea was I was going to do like a handful of little fixes around the house

1371
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:25,640
that were like rejuvenating things. And then we did that sponsored thing with what's their nuts

1372
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:31,600
life and or something like that. And I started using that toothbrush and then I got distracted by some other shiny

1373
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:39,760
video projects. And then we never so we never ended up doing the video. But having had that experience with that other toothbrush

1374
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:43,880
and then seeing Phillips's attitude here, there's just absolutely no question

1375
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:49,120
that I would consider a brand that built that kind of impossible to repair ability

1376
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:53,480
into their toothbrush anymore. I just wouldn't even consider it anymore.

1377
01:47:53,480 --> 01:47:54,480
Yeah.

1378
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:06,280
All right. I'm looking them up right now because I'm not. I wasn't actually sure of the the brand of my toothbrush and shaver.

1379
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:11,520
And I guess I'm already in the Philips ecosystem. So there's not a ton more I can do.

1380
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:16,440
All right, let's go. But but hey, they'll have continued

1381
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:24,680
purchases for me, I guess, over time. Well, I mean, we're in a unique position where there's definitely things that we

1382
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:28,000
can do, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1383
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:33,680
So at least there's that. So, you know, back to the VPN thing and this, you know, we could talk about it

1384
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:37,400
on the Wancho. Yeah, yeah, that hopefully makes a difference.

1385
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,120
All right. What else? What else we got this week?

1386
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:50,120
Energy Star going down. I want to talk about podcasters not wanting public play counts.

1387
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:58,280
Spotify is funny to me. Spotify has responded to podcaster backlash over the plays feature that was

1388
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:04,840
announced last week. Plays was announced as a new publicly visible metric of how many times an

1389
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:09,800
episode of a podcast has been actively watched or listened to rounded to the

1390
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:14,400
nearest thousand. Spotify said this would help users attract new audiences.

1391
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:20,040
But podcasters were quick to criticize the feature with most feeling that plays

1392
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:23,200
would give additional promotion to podcasts that already have large

1393
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:27,560
audiences and make small shows less appealing to new listeners.

1394
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,560
Spotify announced changes earlier today, updating the program.

1395
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:37,120
So plays only start to be displayed after 50,000 plays and will only update

1396
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:41,080
at specific milestones instead of being more granular.

1397
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:45,040
So look, what do you think about this?

1398
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,720
I feel like their update might be worse

1399
01:49:51,560 --> 01:50:00,120
because because now people are just going to see all the above and discard everything else, which is like so bad.

1400
01:50:02,440 --> 01:50:06,240
Wow. Yeah, I feel like that's like the worst pivot they could have almost

1401
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:10,720
possibly done. I'm not. I feel like, you know, weird way.

1402
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:15,520
I'm not super surprised that some podcasters don't want to show the play

1403
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:19,800
count. Yeah, I have got. Oh, I've got so many thoughts about that.

1404
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:27,400
But yes, carry on. Yeah. I mean, a lot of that comes down to podcast ad rates being like super,

1405
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:32,560
super high for some reason compared to any other form of media,

1406
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:36,640
which I've never understood. And now I'm wondering if it's because play counts are hidden.

1407
01:50:37,480 --> 01:50:44,240
Um, as far as I can tell, the entire model for podcast advertising,

1408
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:51,360
which yes, to your point, commands an astonishing CPM compared to

1409
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:57,360
like compared to video, which makes no sense to me. Absolutely no sense.

1410
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:03,400
The only difference as far as I can tell and the reason that podcasting

1411
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:08,080
commands this extremely high rate is that it has this air of like

1412
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:16,360
exclusivities are not exclusivity, but like professionalism slash old media

1413
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:20,600
that it has somehow carried over from the radio days and a lot of

1414
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:26,720
relationships with radio advertisers moved into the podcasting space.

1415
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:32,880
And because it uses a lot of the same bullshit metrics that newspapers

1416
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,760
and magazines and radio did to calculate their reach.

1417
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:42,000
So podcasting advertisers, as far as I can tell,

1418
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:48,440
have just been bamboozled for years and years and years into paying rates

1419
01:51:48,440 --> 01:51:52,640
that make absolutely no sense as far as I can tell.

1420
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:58,880
Like I have seen the numbers that agencies have floated by us for what

1421
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,960
they think a podcast that is equivalently sized to the WAN Show

1422
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,560
might be able to bring in and I'm looking at it going like,

1423
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:12,760
this is more than we do in AdSense, sponsor integrations and like

1424
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:19,720
merch sales. Like what, what is even, what is even going on right now?

1425
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,880
But it's very, very old media, the way that the podcasting advertising

1426
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:30,640
space works and I guarantee you the last thing they want is transparency

1427
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:35,600
in terms of seeing how many people are actually listening to any of this.

1428
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:39,440
And it's something that I've tried to, it's something I've tried to figure

1429
01:52:39,440 --> 01:52:43,440
out multiple times because every once in a while I will have someone

1430
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:50,000
reach out and invite me onto their podcast. And one of the things that I will try to figure out is and like, look,

1431
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:54,400
I'm not, I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but is this a real

1432
01:52:54,440 --> 01:53:01,640
podcast, you know, or is this just like a dude and his friend who bought

1433
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,920
a snowball and this is like their first episode?

1434
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:08,200
Like I'm trying to do, I'm trying to do a little bit of due diligence

1435
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,720
to make sure that I am optimizing my time.

1436
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:17,400
And you know, so I don't, I have done, I have done interview requests

1437
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:22,000
with very, very small publications in the past and I have turned down

1438
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:27,400
very big ones. It's not a hard and fast rule. It's not just like, oh, well, like, are you big enough or but it's,

1439
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:32,360
it's not like that. But I also like to do my due diligence because there have been times

1440
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:37,160
when I've collaborated with people and not done due diligence in the past that haven't worked out so great.

1441
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:42,840
So basically there have been multiple times that I've kind of sat down

1442
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:46,960
and I've looked at a podcast and gone, OK, is anybody actually listening to this?

1443
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:54,200
It is flipping impossible to tell how big one podcast is compared to another

1444
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:58,080
one, unless it's like, you know, the top ranked, you know,

1445
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:06,040
handful per category or per country or whatever. Like there are some metrics, but even then it is tough to know which ones are relevant.

1446
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:16,400
People are talking about like Fallon and stuff. OK, no, no, no, not not not not related to that.

1447
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:22,680
Yeah, not a big enough podcast, I think. No, no, no, no. You're going to need to going to need to question that one.

1448
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:28,040
So so I got to tell you, as an advertiser, you're probably coming up

1449
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:35,640
against the same information wall where you just cannot tell if anybody

1450
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,400
is actually consuming this media or not.

1451
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:43,080
And what I suspect is that the vast majority of podcasts

1452
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:51,400
are just part of a roster of podcasts or like a a bundle of podcasts

1453
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:55,320
that are being sold by agencies, some of which are performing,

1454
01:54:55,560 --> 01:55:01,480
but most of which absolutely no one is listening to and do not want

1455
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,480
anybody to know that nobody is listening to it.

1456
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:09,440
It's also extremely easy to these days.

1457
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:18,000
And it has been for a while now, probably four years, five years, maybe.

1458
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:22,280
It's been extremely easy to make a very professional looking

1459
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,720
and honestly, decently professional sounding podcast

1460
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,880
yeah, with some of the solutions that are out there.

1461
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:34,400
You put that, yes, you. Some people were. Listen to Luke today.

1462
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:39,520
That's not my fault. I didn't blame you.

1463
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:44,960
You took it. Personally, we're. So they were copying the Joe Rogan set up for a while.

1464
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:48,400
And these days, it seems to be more of the Andrew Huberman one

1465
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:54,720
where it's that like spaced out wooden slat wall with the the the black behind it.

1466
01:55:55,560 --> 01:56:00,880
They're all like sitting on a couch. We have a very plain table and then you have two like SM seven bees.

1467
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:05,000
And if you can buy that and a like a two mic.

1468
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:10,200
Audio interface, which you can do because of the road casters,

1469
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:12,520
like everything's kind of like solve for people now.

1470
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:17,000
Elgato can get you your your lights and things really quickly and easily.

1471
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:21,640
When we were first doing this, it was weird, complicated steel things

1472
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:25,200
from the audio industry, try to make it work science. And now it's.

1473
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,840
Or if you know, actual training, which we didn't have.

1474
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:35,320
Yeah. Yeah. And if you have a tiny bedroom or a tiny room, it's much easier to treat, you know.

1475
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:38,360
Yeah. And if you don't do video, oh, oh, easy.

1476
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:43,040
Yeah. But even even what my point is, even doing the video side,

1477
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:47,320
which is, I think actually, I think there's something there.

1478
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:51,280
I a lot of these smaller podcasts have been doing video these days.

1479
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:56,640
And I think it's on purpose. And I think it's because you can achieve that professional look

1480
01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:03,240
quite easily. And then if you can get in one of these bundles, or if you can at least

1481
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:11,120
if you can make yourself look professional or whatever, if you can pay to have a very reputable guest come on, even if you're not getting a ton of views,

1482
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:16,280
if you can get some clips from it, if you can get whatever else, you can make yourself look very popular.

1483
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:21,960
There was there was some proof not that long ago that people were making fake

1484
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:27,520
podcasts and using that to promote products.

1485
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:33,640
I don't know if you've heard about this, but they would make these podcast looking sets with these, the wooden slats in the background,

1486
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:37,360
with the black behind the wooden slats, maybe a fake little Ikea plant,

1487
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,720
the SM7Bs, wooden table, people facing each other.

1488
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,760
It wouldn't even be a real podcast.

1489
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:48,560
It would just be two people talking about like, yeah, this thing like changed my life, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it would look

1490
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:52,600
like a discussion, but it was a like a shadow advertisement.

1491
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:57,400
It's it's fake influencers pretending that they're having a podcast

1492
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:00,800
and they're just naturally talking about something, but they're not.

1493
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:04,880
They're advertising very specifically for a product. That was a huge thing for a while.

1494
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:08,880
That became a thing because achieving this professional looking podcast

1495
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:14,480
look became relatively, I know I'm saying cheap when it's a few thousand dollars,

1496
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:18,560
but relatively cheap. For how much money you can gain back from it.

1497
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:22,840
Yes, exactly. Yeah. That's why you see that a lot on TikTok.

1498
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:28,200
Yeah, I don't know. I don't use TikTok, but that I know that was a thing for quite a while. I'm not surprised it's still a thing.

1499
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:31,360
And when you know that the barrier of entry is that low,

1500
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:35,720
if you can use that low barrier of entry to get into the podcasting space and then

1501
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:42,640
hide under a non-reported play count, like I promise you people are gaming that system.

1502
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:46,920
I would bet very solid cash that people would be gaming that system.

1503
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:51,360
Anyway, I fully as someone who has had to

1504
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:57,360
claw my way for every for every bit of recognition.

1505
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:05,320
Do you have any idea how hard it was to sell sponsorships against YouTube videos 13 years ago?

1506
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:10,080
Well, especially when you were effectively the first one doing it. Do you have any idea how hard that was?

1507
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:16,520
And like the craziest part to me back in the day was like, I had metrics.

1508
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:20,960
And I'm up against these guys that have no metrics.

1509
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:25,640
As far as I can tell, nobody is actually watching any of it.

1510
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:29,120
And I see the kinds of deals and budgets that they're getting.

1511
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:37,400
And I'm just like, this is insane. Just completely stop writing their checks, sign them over to me and immediately

1512
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:42,600
watch your ROI go up. But it took a decade, it took a decade for people to figure it out.

1513
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:49,040
And a lot of them still haven't. So as someone who had to actually have all of my performance completely

1514
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:52,920
transparent to every brand and every viewer that I've ever engaged with,

1515
01:59:53,120 --> 02:00:00,120
every collaborator that I've ever worked with, I support it, put play counts on it.

1516
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:04,720
Yeah, I've got our podcast metrics here if you want any insight or you want me to

1517
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:09,680
share any insight. But are they real? Who knows?

1518
02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:14,080
Do they report them properly? We don't get a ton on the on the listening side, which is

1519
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:19,720
we do, we get seventy five percent over the video side of our Spotify.

1520
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:23,800
I actually have no idea what our podcast numbers are. Sorry, are Dan, are you talking about them right now?

1521
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:27,880
Yeah, do you have a guess? How many how many? That's a lot higher than I thought.

1522
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:30,880
Have any streams of you have we done this year?

1523
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:35,320
Like when show streams? Yeah, you're I mean, like 20 or whatever.

1524
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:40,720
Oh, sorry. How many streams on streams, views, downloads,

1525
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:44,640
there's kind of a complicated way to kind of rise without about 20 episodes,

1526
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:50,120
right? And then every episode does anywhere from half a million to three

1527
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:53,880
quarters of a million on YouTube. Generally, we had kind of a rough week last week.

1528
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:59,520
And I think this week is going to be pretty rough. I think we did not nail the title of this one, but whatever, we do our best.

1529
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:04,120
So that would be, you know, 10 million or whatever on YouTube.

1530
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:09,440
So let's say I literally have no idea.

1531
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:11,840
Let's say.

1532
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:19,560
I don't know. I don't even subscribe to Spotify. I don't even like you remember. Podcast goes out to everywhere where there is podcast.

1533
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:22,680
Podcast is like a really cool format.

1534
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:26,600
Two million weeks, going to two million almost exactly. Two million streams. Oh, OK.

1535
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:31,000
Yeah, it was very bang on. OK, well, then that's fine, I guess.

1536
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:35,920
And like a quarter of that are watching because we do video for Spotify.

1537
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:39,400
OK, I didn't even know that makes my life so much easier.

1538
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:42,920
Not a lot of people do. It was a new feature that they were testing for a while.

1539
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:47,640
So 75% listen, about 25% seem to watch.

1540
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,640
That might be a Spotify only thing and podcast go to literally anywhere.

1541
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:56,400
Like it goes on iTunes or anywhere because it's RSS fee based.

1542
02:01:56,400 --> 02:02:02,240
And that's a funny thing because then super cool. That makes us a really big YouTube tech live stream.

1543
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:06,400
Or we're one of the largest podcast. Oh, see, that's the thing.

1544
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:11,520
These numbers are so small to me. I just assumed that we're a small podcast.

1545
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:16,560
It's very interesting. No, we're one of the large ones. I think that because of the barrier for entry is so low now.

1546
02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:20,200
And like most people aren't doing what we do, which is the bad way to do it,

1547
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:25,080
which is just record it live and then send it without doing any mastering pass at all.

1548
02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:28,600
Yeah, whatever. So we try our best. Do we, though?

1549
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:33,240
Yeah, yeah. If you want, how much more money do you want to spend on this?

1550
02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:36,120
We could make it. No, we don't want to. We don't want to try our best.

1551
02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:39,440
No, you don't try our best and we don't want you do not want to.

1552
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:42,640
It will cost you an ARM and a leg.

1553
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:46,600
But like 25% of people finish a quarter of an episode,

1554
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:51,800
five percent finish three quarters of an episode and three percent almost finish all of it.

1555
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:55,280
That's terrible. So that's just like a complete waste of time.

1556
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:59,520
And we shouldn't even bother uploading them then. No, it's pretty, it's pretty useful.

1557
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:03,400
Is it? OK. For reasons how do I won't go into.

1558
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:06,360
So here, so here, I'm going to try and do this.

1559
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:11,000
I'm going to try and do this. OK, so I'm I am trying to find top tech podcasts.

1560
02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:14,840
So because Dan pulled this, pulled this statement, as far as I can tell,

1561
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:19,600
completely out of his butt that we are one of the bigger tech podcasts.

1562
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:24,960
And I'm looking at this and I'm going, how, how are you supposed to know that?

1563
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:30,000
Is can you hear me? Yes. OK, my computer is doing that thing, so I'll be back.

1564
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:39,040
OK, I will meet you. Top shows. OK, so these are are these the top technology podcasts?

1565
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:44,560
Like Verge, I know the Verge. I know Ted.

1566
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:50,000
Is that a tech podcast, though? A lot of Ted stuff is kind of tech.

1567
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:55,560
Wait, these are just top episodes. Why is this? Why is this so obtuse?

1568
02:03:55,760 --> 02:04:00,200
I tried to go. OK, top shows. OK. Here we go.

1569
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:02,200
Ah.

1570
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:09,160
Yeah, dude, we're tiny. Unless we're not.

1571
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:12,320
Depends on the category. It can be a little bit complicated.

1572
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:16,480
I mean, this is tech, right? Rankings for us.

1573
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:21,560
And this is specifically on Apple Pie, because we haven't even, dude, we haven't even shown up yet.

1574
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:27,000
Dude, Wansho, Wansho is not even top 100, according to this.

1575
02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:31,320
Maybe not of all time, but certainly in the tech sector, I know that we're up there, but this is tech.

1576
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:34,920
Oh, wait, charts genre. Yeah, genre 1318.

1577
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:42,320
I mean, we got Linux unplugged. See, now, though, now we're getting to the point where I'm having a hard time

1578
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:46,760
believing and I don't want to call anybody in particular out.

1579
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:51,360
OK, so Wansho. No. OK.

1580
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:55,440
Yeah, I'm having a hard time believing. OK, I look, I don't want to call.

1581
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:58,280
I don't want to call anybody out, but who is Logan Bartlett?

1582
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:01,480
I just want to know who Logan Bartlett is. That 4.8 stars.

1583
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:07,720
That's really good. Apparently, this is really good. There's the Internet is full of influencers I've never heard of,

1584
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:12,200
so it's nothing personal. Logan Bartlett.

1585
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:18,000
OK. So the buddy uploads on YouTube.

1586
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:22,960
And has some very, very popular videos.

1587
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:28,160
First interview with Sam Altman after GPT 4.0.

1588
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:31,760
OK, so that's that's pretty cool.

1589
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:37,800
I'm not sure if I believe that this podcast is bigger than ours, though,

1590
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:42,760
based on the numbers I'm looking at. But that's the thing is some of the splits are obscene.

1591
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:45,760
Yeah, I look at everything through a YouTube lens.

1592
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:50,280
Like I'm YouTube native and everything else is just like,

1593
02:05:50,480 --> 02:05:54,160
well, OK, not everything else. But.

1594
02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:02,760
Same way that someone will be like big on Instagram and I'll be like,

1595
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:08,400
are they actually big and then check their like YouTube? Because again, I'm YouTube first and then I have to take a step back and be like,

1596
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:12,480
oh, wait, no, this is this is an Instagram first creator.

1597
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:19,280
If this person is a podcast first or yeah, or, you know, Spotify first creator,

1598
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:25,040
then. Yeah, I mean, just think about something like Twitch, you know,

1599
02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:28,280
if you have six concurrent viewers, you're in top percentages.

1600
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:32,400
If the barrier for entry for podcasts is so low and you can just like sit down and

1601
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:36,680
upload whatever you want, you know, if you're if you're in the top 10,000,

1602
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:40,560
you're doing pretty OK. Eddie Koldrich.

1603
02:06:40,840 --> 02:06:45,160
Oh, so we're not under tech. We're under tech news. I'm working on it.

1604
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:48,640
Yeah, I can't find our rankings that we got.

1605
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:50,360
Top 10.

1606
02:06:54,160 --> 02:06:58,760
And there's also tech news. The funny thing is tech news UK, that sort of thing.

1607
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:02,840
I haven't heard of some of the other things that are in the top 10.

1608
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:06,960
Yeah, I think we talked about this ages ago. If you remember when we were starting into this,

1609
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:12,040
like, who are these people? They're more popular by us by like a large margin.

1610
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:16,360
I pretty much guarantee you that a lot of them say the same thing about us.

1611
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:19,400
I'm sure I'm 100 percent sure who the heck are these guys?

1612
02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:24,560
I mean, their show isn't even professional. Look at this. Yeah, this is terrible garbage.

1613
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:29,960
This actual trash, actual dumpster fire.

1614
02:07:30,160 --> 02:07:34,200
I said, you clearly just woke up. He didn't even do his hair.

1615
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:39,320
What's happening? That is the least of our problems. Your co-worker made it.

1616
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:44,040
It's not even a good gaming headset.

1617
02:07:44,240 --> 02:07:49,960
Oh, I have RGB on it. Man, no mastering pass on the audio.

1618
02:07:50,160 --> 02:07:55,680
A lot of podcasts, like, you know, if there is a real time master, it's awful.

1619
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:59,480
If you're only listening to the audio, it's nice to have it actually like sound good.

1620
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:04,080
We are number six after cybersecurity headlines,

1621
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:10,880
Babbage, Cyberwire Daily, 404 Media, them I know, and the tech news briefing from the Wall Street Journal.

1622
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,960
And they are way bigger.

1623
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:19,000
How do they know, though? Well, I remember looking at some charts that we like I haven't touched

1624
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:21,880
podcasting in a while, but where do these charts come from?

1625
02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:26,600
I don't know to pay someone for the charts. Well, we get charts because we're special,

1626
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:31,520
because we're one of the larger podcasters. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

1627
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:37,400
As a larger podcaster, you get Intel on the other podcasters.

1628
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:41,120
Yeah, that's not available publicly. I get like, well, I don't know.

1629
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:47,720
I remember while I remember getting a weekly like digest email that said that we're we're better.

1630
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:54,360
And it like that's your billboard one hundred. Everyone should have access to that.

1631
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:58,440
I mean, chartable. There we are.

1632
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:02,560
Let's see. And is this like real data?

1633
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:05,760
Like, are you getting this from? Yeah, like, where's this from?

1634
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:10,160
Yeah, I think everyone's just guessing, dude. It could be lies.

1635
02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:15,600
I'm going to actually open like here. We can see how many people we can see how many people like rated it.

1636
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:19,680
That's something like how many people rated the WAN Show.

1637
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:23,200
Let's have a look at our dashboard. Wow. I don't know. I don't know if I agree.

1638
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,680
I don't think it's that good, but thank you. It's very generous.

1639
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:33,120
Let's go. Is this just by ratings? No, because this one only has a hundred twenty three ratings.

1640
02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:39,480
What one? The cyber security games, because I'm not super surprised because that has like

1641
02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:42,960
the most generic name and profile photo.

1642
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:46,640
Yeah, but apparently they're they're bigger, but they also upload daily.

1643
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:52,920
Oh, so that's a daily podcast. So that's that's a volume game and a half right there.

1644
02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:56,920
I could see following that, though. Yeah, for sure. Security daily.

1645
02:09:57,120 --> 02:10:06,600
Like how many how many episodes you can listen to it on the way to work? Well, like I could absolutely see one thousand four hundred episodes.

1646
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:09,760
So this is one I got from last year,

1647
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:19,680
because I think they're blocked in our email thing now. OK, but for Apple podcasts were number eight for tech news in the US.

1648
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:23,920
Number two hundred and eleven for Great Britain for news.

1649
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:28,960
Number seven for Great Britain for tech news. One hundred and forty six in Canada for news.

1650
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:33,560
Number two in Canada for tech news. That's on Apple podcast.

1651
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:37,880
Sure, I don't know. I think it's all made up and I support more transparency.

1652
02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:41,240
All right, there are some.

1653
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:46,200
Oh, there are some new Android scan protections.

1654
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:51,400
And this video is not out yet, but we did a collaboration with Kit Boga recently

1655
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:57,960
that was a lot of fun and was both eyeopening and also extremely terrifying.

1656
02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:01,680
I it's not something I dedicate a lot of my brain cycles to.

1657
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:06,080
It's not something that I have really experienced with my aging relatives.

1658
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:13,400
But there are so many different angles of attack from scammers that I just never heard of.

1659
02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:17,520
And he really kind of like.

1660
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:20,560
I don't know.

1661
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:24,200
Kind of red pilled me. OK, so I get it now.

1662
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:28,720
I am I am I am now aware of what's out there and the world.

1663
02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:33,440
The world is is trash and it's full of people who are trash and are going to try and take

1664
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:36,600
everything from you for no reason other than that you have it and they don't.

1665
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:39,640
And that sucks. And thank you very much, Kit.

1666
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:43,320
I appreciate you very much. Anyway.

1667
02:11:43,600 --> 02:11:48,600
At Android IO this week, Google announced new tools in Android 16 aimed at protecting

1668
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:55,800
users from such scams. They have new in call protections that prevent users from taking risky actions,

1669
02:11:56,000 --> 02:12:01,440
such as granting accessibility permissions or sideloading an app for the first time.

1670
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:06,520
If you are new, oh, yeah, if you are in call, that is super cool.

1671
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:13,400
That's a way for Android to stay open and allow sideloading and allow special accessibility permissions,

1672
02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:19,400
but not allow somebody to get you to do that while you are on a phone call with them.

1673
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:23,920
So that seems pretty neat. If you are screen sharing during a phone call,

1674
02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:28,120
Android will now automatically prompt you to stop sharing at the end of the call.

1675
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:33,600
And they're piloting a program in the UK. We're launching a participating banking app while screen sharing with an unknown

1676
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:37,520
contact will trigger a warning from Android and give you the option to end the call

1677
02:12:37,600 --> 02:12:44,160
and stop screen sharing with one tap. Scam detection is an AI powered tool for scam detection and text that will warn

1678
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:48,200
when it spots suspicious conversation patterns and key verifier allows you and

1679
02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:51,800
the person you're messaging to verify the identity of the other party through

1680
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:55,560
public encryption keys to help thwart imposters, e.g.

1681
02:12:55,760 --> 02:13:01,080
SIM swaps. My only concern here is that

1682
02:13:01,280 --> 02:13:04,760
the kinds of users who

1683
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:11,040
from working with kit on that video seem to be targeted by these folks may not be

1684
02:13:11,240 --> 02:13:16,520
helped that much by this. It seems like they are accustomed to a very

1685
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:20,000
unsophisticated, non-savvy user.

1686
02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:25,480
Like I was amazed at how dense we had to pretend to be in order to get them to

1687
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:28,000
hang up on us.

1688
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:34,440
Like Luke, I asked this one guy to sing me happy birthday.

1689
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:42,360
Ploof and Adam both succeeded in getting the scammer to sing them happy birthday.

1690
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:45,400
I asked mine, who's your daddy and what does he do?

1691
02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:48,600
That wasn't enough to deter him.

1692
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:56,120
Like so the angle for the video for so you guys know what to expect.

1693
02:13:56,120 --> 02:14:02,640
It's going to be, dude, it's going to be a blast. I think we shot two videos, one for our channel, one for kits, I think, or both for

1694
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:06,760
our channel. I don't know, we did something. I think we did one for, I think the other one was for kits channel.

1695
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:11,000
Anyway, the point was I just went where they told me to go and I was a me on camera.

1696
02:14:11,200 --> 02:14:14,360
Anyway, so for ours, we try to make the unscammable PC.

1697
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:18,400
And then yeah, the one that I think is going live on his channel is just him

1698
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:21,880
having us compete to see who can keep scammers on for the longest.

1699
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:25,320
So it's me, Ploof, Adam, and Elijah and Kit, if I recall correctly.

1700
02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:28,560
All five of us took a whack at it. I might have some of these details wrong.

1701
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:34,800
But the point is the the stick for it was that we don't just keep them on the

1702
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:42,640
phone, because honestly, that's relatively easy. You have someone off camera holding up a piece of paper with stuff you have to say.

1703
02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:51,400
Stuff that you have to insert in the conversation. So that's where some of these like whack-a-doodle things, who's your daddy?

1704
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:55,320
You have to tell them you're so lonely.

1705
02:14:55,520 --> 02:14:59,480
No one came to my birthday party. Will you be my friend? Do you have to ask if their mom's single?

1706
02:14:59,680 --> 02:15:06,880
Like just oh, so painful, so painful.

1707
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:10,840
Anyway, it's going to be great. It's going to be great. Oh, that's exciting.

1708
02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:14,320
Don't miss it. So cool new Android scan protections.

1709
02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:18,880
Seems like progress, but it's also hard to look at this and say anything.

1710
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:22,440
But like feels like too little, too late. But let's see how it goes.

1711
02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:27,840
ROG Rig Reboot is back. We are excited to announce that we have once again partnered with ASUS to

1712
02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:31,480
give our viewers the opportunity to be flown to Linus Media Group headquarters

1713
02:15:31,680 --> 02:15:37,720
where they will build a PC with me on video. We are opening up to our international audience this time.

1714
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:43,240
So all you got to do is go to LMG.GG slash rig 25.

1715
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:48,920
Submit a video showing us why you need a rig reboot, whether your system is unable to keep up with your workflow or you can't

1716
02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:52,560
run demanding games or it's just absolutely cooked. We need the details.

1717
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:55,840
And this is a competition that rewards creativity and originality.

1718
02:15:55,840 --> 02:16:00,360
So make sure your video is unique and not reminiscent of previous submissions.

1719
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:04,440
Yes, we will know. Submission criteria 30 to 59 seconds.

1720
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,600
Show us your current setup. Tell us why we should pick you again.

1721
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:14,120
Be creative and submissions will be open until 4.45 PM Pacific time Sunday, May 25th.

1722
02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:19,040
Check it out. Do redeem, do redeem that offer.

1723
02:16:19,240 --> 02:16:26,600
Also, we have a Floatplane update this week. Our handsome, tall, intelligent, rich and narcissistic chief vision officer,

1724
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:29,800
Linus Sebastian had his latest vision.

1725
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:32,800
We're trying out something new on Floatplane clips.

1726
02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:37,120
These are quick behind the scenes moments that aren't quite long enough to be a full

1727
02:16:37,320 --> 02:16:41,600
Floatplane exclusive. Open this link to just show what it is.

1728
02:16:41,800 --> 02:16:45,960
Explain if needed. OK.

1729
02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:49,760
Ah, yes, Linus and Elijah discuss my little pony.

1730
02:16:49,960 --> 02:16:53,320
Oh, I have already watched this, so it started at the end.

1731
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:58,480
We talk about our favorite ponies and people apparently liked that.

1732
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:08,720
Anyway, you guys loved the first one, so we're going to keep it going during the text. Yikes from the from the background.

1733
02:17:10,040 --> 02:17:14,920
Some of our team will be on the ground next week, uploading random clips as they happen.

1734
02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:18,880
You may see things like eating stinky tofu for the first time, silly stuff on the

1735
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:24,600
show floor and everything in between. And yes, Luke will apparently be doing his traditional show floor walk.

1736
02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:29,120
Sammy says, totally announcing this. So Luke makes time for me to do a show floor walk with him.

1737
02:17:29,320 --> 02:17:35,360
Oh, OK, so Sammy had not discussed this with you. No, he asked me like a while ago if I would do it.

1738
02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:40,720
And I was like, yeah. And then he asked me again

1739
02:17:40,920 --> 02:17:44,240
today that I was like, yeah.

1740
02:17:44,440 --> 02:17:47,800
So I think he forgot that I already agreed to it.

1741
02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:55,680
Nice. But it's OK. So check out the LMG team during Computex that LMG dot gg slash flow plane.

1742
02:17:55,880 --> 02:18:01,240
All right, what else we got today? OK, OK, I'm confused by this.

1743
02:18:01,440 --> 02:18:10,520
Luke, help me out here. Sourceers, ours, Technica, industry groups decry the imminent demise of Energy Star.

1744
02:18:10,720 --> 02:18:14,680
The current US administration has decided to terminate the Energy Star program,

1745
02:18:14,800 --> 02:18:19,800
though it's not clear if Energy Star can be eliminated without an act of Congress.

1746
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:23,480
Energy Star is a program run by the US Environmental Protection Agency,

1747
02:18:23,480 --> 02:18:29,120
the EPA and the Department of Energy, the DOE, to help consumers, businesses and industry save money and protect the environment

1748
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:34,200
by using energy efficient products and practices. It identifies top performing cost effective products, homes and buildings

1749
02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:42,880
through its distinctive blue label. OK, what I asked for in this topic was an Eli five for Energy Star because other

1750
02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:47,800
than seeing the label on things and being like, OK, so that's a that.

1751
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:54,280
I guess it's energy. I never really knew what exactly it meant.

1752
02:18:54,480 --> 02:19:00,280
It meant that this one is like more ranked or good or for the efficiency.

1753
02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:03,840
But also a lot of the time it seemed kind of arbitrary because it's like, yeah,

1754
02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:11,320
this one's really bad for power efficiency. But also it's like on the much bigger end of like how big TVs can be in this category.

1755
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:15,200
So obviously, you know, like I. OK, so that's what it is.

1756
02:19:15,400 --> 02:19:20,320
It is a voluntary program that was created as part of a bill passed by the

1757
02:19:20,520 --> 02:19:23,600
near the end of George H.W. Bush's time in office.

1758
02:19:23,800 --> 02:19:27,040
President Clinton issued an executive order mandating that federal agencies

1759
02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:30,200
should prioritize Energy Star certified products in their procurement.

1760
02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:36,000
Chamber of Commerce, something something. Energy Star enabled consumers to save an estimated five hundred billion dollars

1761
02:19:36,200 --> 02:19:41,080
over the past 33 years. Our technical notes that companies that have invested in making more efficient

1762
02:19:41,080 --> 02:19:44,520
products are faced with the loss of the Energy Star brand as a marketing tool.

1763
02:19:44,720 --> 02:19:50,040
Oh, this is why they care. OK, the Energy Star logo has helped them make the case with the government

1764
02:19:50,040 --> 02:19:53,560
support that the initial cost of efficient appliances will be offset over time

1765
02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:57,600
in reduced water and energy consumption.

1766
02:19:57,800 --> 02:20:01,880
Got it. I was trying to figure out why industry

1767
02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:05,240
groups cared about Energy Star going away.

1768
02:20:05,360 --> 02:20:10,280
So the answer is marketing. Hit me. Hit me, you guys, in the chat.

1769
02:20:10,480 --> 02:20:15,280
Do you do you factor Energy Star into your purchases?

1770
02:20:15,480 --> 02:20:19,840
Because I got to confess, other than like seeing it in my BIOS or whatever,

1771
02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:23,640
I I I can't say that it's been a major factor for me.

1772
02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:29,160
It's it's something that I see on the product after I buy it, essentially every

1773
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:35,080
single time and almost all of Chad is saying no. But remember, we haven't seen anyone in Chad say we live in B.C.

1774
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:39,600
where our electricity is cheap, right? So that's something.

1775
02:20:39,800 --> 02:20:44,240
Yeah, states have some of their own regulations as well. I mean, yeah, to my wife does.

1776
02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:50,080
OK. And especially if it impacts like government procurement, then I could see it

1777
02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:54,840
affecting a significant number of units that are purchased, even if it's not

1778
02:20:55,040 --> 02:20:58,080
individual consumers, I have for larger appliances.

1779
02:20:58,280 --> 02:21:03,280
I prefer it all else being equal. I have OK, I like to see it there.

1780
02:21:03,480 --> 02:21:10,480
Oh, interesting. Yeet, Dabman says that sticker is a real POS to remove.

1781
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:14,080
I'd say no for appliances. Heck, yes.

1782
02:21:14,280 --> 02:21:20,960
Interesting. I love that there are consumer rebates based on Energy Star and some jurisdictions.

1783
02:21:21,160 --> 02:21:25,520
OK, so maybe this is just more of like Americans have a higher level of awareness

1784
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:29,880
of this because up here, I don't see it really that consistently applied to things.

1785
02:21:30,080 --> 02:21:33,240
I don't see it marketed that hard.

1786
02:21:34,280 --> 02:21:39,240
Yeah, I don't see it marketed literally at all up here, I think on appliances.

1787
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:42,400
Yeah, but I don't remember a time you would have bought appliances because you

1788
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:47,200
bought your place new and it was full of appliances. I bought a dishwasher because it didn't work.

1789
02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:52,160
OK, did you look at the Energy Star? Not even a little bit.

1790
02:21:52,360 --> 02:21:56,680
OK, I talked to my dad and I talked to some of my dad's appliance friends about

1791
02:21:56,880 --> 02:21:59,680
which one would break the least fair enough.

1792
02:21:59,880 --> 02:22:05,520
No problems ever since. OK, well, good chat.

1793
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:11,760
Apple is attempting to scare users if apps use external purchases.

1794
02:22:11,960 --> 02:22:17,360
Sources the verge here, allegedly, allegedly. Apple seems to be trying scare tactics to prevent people from downloading using

1795
02:22:17,360 --> 02:22:23,080
apps that use external payments. The message, which appears with a big red exclamation mark at the very top of the

1796
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:26,840
app's page, says the following, this app does not support the app store's private

1797
02:22:27,040 --> 02:22:30,240
and secure payment system, it uses external purchases.

1798
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:35,280
Scary. This seems to be in response to the EU's decision in March of 2024, where they

1799
02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:39,600
require Apple to allow developers to enable external purchase options

1800
02:22:39,800 --> 02:22:43,680
instead of essentially forcing developers to pay a 30% fee to Apple.

1801
02:22:43,880 --> 02:22:46,920
People have been reporting that this isn't new and Apple has been doing it since

1802
02:22:46,920 --> 02:22:53,080
the EU started enforcing Apple to comply with the ruling change. But what they've been changing is that the warning image used to just be a lower

1803
02:22:53,280 --> 02:22:58,200
case I for information rather than the new red exclamation mark.

1804
02:22:58,360 --> 02:23:01,640
OK, because I was going to say we've talked about this before 100%, but that makes

1805
02:23:01,640 --> 02:23:04,440
sense. There was also this didn't make it into the dock this week, but there was

1806
02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:09,120
also like Fortnite is not on the app store because Tim Sweeney is pushing the

1807
02:23:09,320 --> 02:23:13,840
envelope again, but also Apple, in my humble opinion, is clearly in the wrong

1808
02:23:14,040 --> 02:23:17,800
here in the first place. So yeah, good luck, Epic and Apple.

1809
02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:21,560
I hope you guys bury the hatchet someday.

1810
02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:26,120
Not yet, though. Steam didn't get hacked speaking of hacking hatchets or something.

1811
02:23:26,400 --> 02:23:32,960
Valve has responded to rumors of a data breach that appears to have started on LinkedIn and included claims that more than 89 million records were for sale

1812
02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:36,560
with a sample of the data made available to prospective purchasers.

1813
02:23:36,760 --> 02:23:40,000
Something, something, something, Valve examined a leak sample and determined

1814
02:23:40,200 --> 02:23:44,640
the data did not come from a breach of Steam's systems.

1815
02:23:44,840 --> 02:23:48,800
There's a bunch of other stuff, but basically from a Steam perspective,

1816
02:23:49,000 --> 02:23:51,800
Valve says customers do not need to change their passwords or phone numbers

1817
02:23:52,000 --> 02:23:55,720
as a result of this event. It is not a bad idea to do it anyway, so

1818
02:23:55,920 --> 02:23:58,760
it's a good reminder to treat any account security messages that you have not

1819
02:23:58,960 --> 02:24:03,440
explicitly requested as suspicious, though, and reminds users to set up Steam

1820
02:24:03,640 --> 02:24:08,680
mobile authenticator if they haven't already. All right, pretty much good guy, Valve.

1821
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:13,720
And NextCloud accuses Google of deliberately crippling its app.

1822
02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:17,640
European software vendor NextCloud has accused Google of deliberately

1823
02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:21,160
crippling its Android files app, a file synchronization tool.

1824
02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:26,760
In 2024, Google's Play Store revoked the all files access permission

1825
02:24:26,960 --> 02:24:31,080
that they've had since 2016, effectively crippling the app and instructing

1826
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:34,960
NextCloud to use a more privacy aware replacement.

1827
02:24:35,160 --> 02:24:42,520
But NextCloud says, hey, we can't use those. Storage access framework, SAF, cannot be used as it is for sharing slash exposing

1828
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:46,960
our files to other apps, MediaStore API cannot be used as it does not allow

1829
02:24:47,160 --> 02:24:53,720
access to other files, but only media files. Google's developer documentation states, if you target Android 11 and declare

1830
02:24:53,720 --> 02:25:00,240
all files access, it can affect your ability to publish and update your app on Google Play.

1831
02:25:01,800 --> 02:25:04,600
So basically you can't compete with Google Drive?

1832
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:09,200
Is that what I'm hearing? Yikes. Yikes.

1833
02:25:11,960 --> 02:25:15,040
Yeah, Timo says there are so many file managers out there that don't have their

1834
02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:19,320
permissions crippled. Yeah, it does make it feel a little personal, doesn't it?

1835
02:25:19,320 --> 02:25:24,520
I can't say for sure that it is. But NextCloud sure seems to think so.

1836
02:25:24,720 --> 02:25:28,280
Yeah, Google and Apple are both

1837
02:25:28,480 --> 02:25:32,440
getting really stabby about defending their mobile moats right now.

1838
02:25:32,640 --> 02:25:37,040
Yeah. And I hope this continues to go poorly for them.

1839
02:25:37,240 --> 02:25:43,440
Me too. A unique username says NextCloud is the largest competitor to all the CloudLockin

1840
02:25:43,640 --> 02:25:47,920
solutions from Google and Apple. Well, yeah. I don't.

1841
02:25:48,120 --> 02:25:51,520
This doesn't feel accidental to me, is what I'll say.

1842
02:25:51,720 --> 02:25:56,320
All right, Dan, are we supposed to be doing After Dark now? I think we got our announcements done.

1843
02:25:56,520 --> 02:25:59,680
I think we've done all the topics. Let's do it. Wow.

1844
02:25:59,880 --> 02:26:04,400
Not a ton of curated merge messages today. No, lots of people buying

1845
02:26:04,600 --> 02:26:08,040
what are they called, the tall sizes. Well, yeah, that makes sense.

1846
02:26:08,240 --> 02:26:11,080
I wonder why.

1847
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:15,440
Because they're great. Go us. It's because they're compensating.

1848
02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:19,000
It's true. It's true. What?

1849
02:26:19,200 --> 02:26:22,000
What? For what?

1850
02:26:22,200 --> 02:26:26,040
Not being short. Yeah. They don't get to be fabric.

1851
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:30,520
All the all the canes are short. Nobody just get to be serfs.

1852
02:26:30,720 --> 02:26:37,840
It's harder for us to pack because our clothing takes up more space. Jamie calls me Slender Man and asks if he needs help finding my pages.

1853
02:26:40,680 --> 02:26:46,000
Ten out of ten banter. All right, again, sure.

1854
02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:50,640
LLD, could you expand on the hesitancy to include more tall skews?

1855
02:26:50,840 --> 02:26:54,320
Can't speak for others, but it's worth a five to ten dollar premium for me.

1856
02:26:54,520 --> 02:26:58,640
Shouldn't that cover the overhead? Give cards for pink to XL.

1857
02:26:58,840 --> 02:27:08,800
Tall shirts, when? The hesitancy is that in order to stock a thing, you have to buy

1858
02:27:09,040 --> 02:27:13,400
thousands, in many cases, tens of thousands of dollars worth of that thing.

1859
02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:18,160
So it is both a risk management issue because you don't want to go and buy

1860
02:27:18,360 --> 02:27:22,240
tens of thousands of dollars worth of a thing that then just sits there

1861
02:27:22,440 --> 02:27:28,560
because that's bad for business and also just a cash flow management exercise thing.

1862
02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:36,560
You can't just take your entire existing portfolio and a have the, you know,

1863
02:27:36,840 --> 02:27:42,600
worker hours to create new patterns for everything, right?

1864
02:27:42,800 --> 02:27:47,600
Like literally, you are doubling the number of the amount of grading that you have to do.

1865
02:27:47,600 --> 02:27:52,080
So grading is where you take a design and you adjust it for all your different sizes.

1866
02:27:52,280 --> 02:27:55,520
You're doubling the grading that you have to do for a given style.

1867
02:27:55,720 --> 02:28:01,360
And then not only that, but you are significantly increasing the amount

1868
02:28:01,360 --> 02:28:09,760
of cash outlay that you are spending in order to hold, in order to buy and hold that inventory.

1869
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:14,720
It's boring. Spreadsheet accounting stuff.

1870
02:28:14,920 --> 02:28:20,880
I don't expect people to care, but it doesn't make it not just how it is.

1871
02:28:21,080 --> 02:28:25,840
And it's a big part of the same reason that it's a big part of the reason

1872
02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:31,160
that we also haven't just like started up an EU distribution warehouse.

1873
02:28:31,760 --> 02:28:35,120
Because it's not that simple.

1874
02:28:35,320 --> 02:28:43,800
The logistics are not that simple. The reporting and taxation and accounting and all of those things, they're just not that simple.

1875
02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:47,920
And at the end of the day, we are still, and I can't emphasize this enough,

1876
02:28:48,120 --> 02:28:52,120
we are still a pretty small company, right?

1877
02:28:52,320 --> 02:28:55,920
And overall, we have like 100 plus employees.

1878
02:28:55,920 --> 02:28:59,520
I think we're at around 100 and something right now. Is that right, Luke? I think so.

1879
02:28:59,720 --> 02:29:05,680
I think that's roughly correct. Yeah, I think that's about right. But Creator Warehouse doesn't have 100 employees.

1880
02:29:05,880 --> 02:29:10,080
Creator Warehouse is a tiny company. They have a couple of dozen employees.

1881
02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:14,120
The fact that they sell around the world at all is a small miracle, right?

1882
02:29:14,120 --> 02:29:19,040
Like what you're going to say, oh, yeah, well, they should just they should just have distribution centers on every country.

1883
02:29:19,040 --> 02:29:23,600
Are you serious right now? Like we're we're no, that's not how it works.

1884
02:29:23,800 --> 02:29:28,120
It's not how any of this works. We are doing our best and we are going to, you know,

1885
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:31,560
constantly try to get delivery costs down around the world.

1886
02:29:31,760 --> 02:29:35,280
We're going to try to expand our styles with, you know, tall sizes.

1887
02:29:35,480 --> 02:29:40,600
I just got confirmation. They promised me husky sizes for t-shirts are coming in 2026.

1888
02:29:40,800 --> 02:29:44,840
OK, we're working on it. But these things take time.

1889
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:49,960
They take cash. They take hours. Someone's got to do it.

1890
02:29:52,840 --> 02:29:55,480
I'm happy we're finally getting them.

1891
02:29:56,040 --> 02:29:58,920
I'm really I was very surprised.

1892
02:29:59,120 --> 02:30:03,720
I got it spoiled to me by the chat, but I was really surprised that there was all the colors for tall sizes.

1893
02:30:03,920 --> 02:30:11,720
That's that's super cool, but I didn't really expect it. I mean, there's a reason why almost no store that you go into has any tall sizes.

1894
02:30:11,920 --> 02:30:17,360
Like it's just doubling your shoes like that is tough.

1895
02:30:17,560 --> 02:30:22,120
And you've got to know that there's some chance that it's going to work out, which is why we took it slow.

1896
02:30:22,120 --> 02:30:27,600
That's why we started with the black. We started with a small order. Because in theory, anything's a great idea.

1897
02:30:27,800 --> 02:30:31,640
Yeah, but there's a big difference between people being excited about something

1898
02:30:31,640 --> 02:30:34,600
and people actually pulling out their wallet and spending money on it.

1899
02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:38,520
Huge difference, vast ocean of difference.

1900
02:30:38,720 --> 02:30:46,920
So you need to be evidence driven. That's a big part of what like Teran pushes ever since he joined is like be data driven.

1901
02:30:47,120 --> 02:30:52,360
That doesn't mean that we can't YOLO and buy a fire truck once in a while, but it means that we need to overall make

1902
02:30:52,560 --> 02:30:58,720
sure that we are making decisions that are supported by real world evidence that we

1903
02:30:58,920 --> 02:31:03,840
can use as our guiding star at the very least.

1904
02:31:05,680 --> 02:31:12,320
Hi, Linus, Luke and Dan, a question for Luke. Which individuals or teams do the marketing or advertising for Floodplain?

1905
02:31:12,320 --> 02:31:16,720
It would be cool to hear about the work they do to attract new creators versus users.

1906
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:19,840
No, we do very little work to attract new creators.

1907
02:31:20,040 --> 02:31:23,800
Isn't that Linus? Yeah, I think that's my job.

1908
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:26,840
I have not I have been asleep at the wheel for many years.

1909
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:31,880
What a bad employee. Terrible, terrible.

1910
02:31:32,080 --> 02:31:35,440
Yeah, the business team,

1911
02:31:35,640 --> 02:31:42,560
there's there's Sean and then indirectly Colton on the business team who work on

1912
02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:48,200
coming up with like the business sides of ideas of trying to make Floodplain

1913
02:31:48,400 --> 02:31:54,400
better and more worth it for people to join and stay for a variety of creators.

1914
02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:59,040
But the business team is is focused on

1915
02:31:59,240 --> 02:32:05,200
LMG stuff, but then hopefully those features benefit other people as well,

1916
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:11,080
or those ideas benefit other people as well. But their their goal, they're looking at the LTT subscription.

1917
02:32:11,240 --> 02:32:15,800
Like they are employees at Linus Media Group. Those are business people at Linus Media Group.

1918
02:32:15,800 --> 02:32:22,120
These are not Floodplain people. And Sammy is sort of indirectly a big part of the marketing of Floodplain just by

1919
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:27,680
creating wasn't even there yet. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, hard big time.

1920
02:32:27,880 --> 02:32:31,720
It's Sammy making exclusives and pushing the envelope with the types of things that

1921
02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:36,920
we're doing, including this, I guess maybe it was Linus's idea, but including this,

1922
02:32:37,160 --> 02:32:41,880
the like clips thing you're talking about, the like short, short content.

1923
02:32:42,080 --> 02:32:47,400
That's a cool idea. I shouldn't say it's my idea. It's not like I came up with the idea of short form content.

1924
02:32:47,600 --> 02:32:50,920
But that's not having that on the platform now.

1925
02:32:51,120 --> 02:32:54,880
Oh, I see. Yeah, get better at being a narcissist. What's wrong with you?

1926
02:32:55,080 --> 02:33:02,520
Sorry. But yeah, so that's that's the engines that are going for the Linus Media Group side.

1927
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:08,840
And, you know, we learn things from the content that LMG does and how it performs

1928
02:33:08,840 --> 02:33:14,320
on the platforms and then and then sometimes other creators ask me effectively me

1929
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:18,000
about that and then I'll share some of that information so they can benefit from

1930
02:33:18,200 --> 02:33:23,480
that learning as well and then some of the work that the business team does

1931
02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:31,440
can can potentially benefit other creators as well. But they are generally focused on Linus Media Group expansion within the Floodplain

1932
02:33:31,560 --> 02:33:36,400
universe and then the Floodplain dev team essentially tries to make Floodplain better

1933
02:33:36,600 --> 02:33:42,080
for all the creators because the Floodplain dev team is focused on the platform as a whole.

1934
02:33:42,280 --> 02:33:47,680
The Floodplain dev team has been very focused on that that big project we've

1935
02:33:47,880 --> 02:33:52,440
been doing for a while that has been semi-leaked but not fully leaked.

1936
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:58,000
And that has resulted in when the business team keeps coming to us with a very,

1937
02:33:58,280 --> 02:34:02,440
very reasonable, fairly measured request.

1938
02:34:02,640 --> 02:34:06,080
It is going, sorry, can't do it right now.

1939
02:34:06,280 --> 02:34:09,560
A little bit too busy. And then we've been doing that for quite a while now.

1940
02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:14,560
So sorry, business team, but there are things that they want to do that will be

1941
02:34:14,760 --> 02:34:18,760
good to be clear and we will do it eventually.

1942
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:26,600
But yeah, that's that's kind of that circle. There's there's Sean and Colton from the business team and then

1943
02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:31,560
Sammy from the content team and then the Floodplain dev team.

1944
02:34:32,560 --> 02:34:38,760
And about some more. Yeah, I'm just looking up at this next one.

1945
02:34:38,960 --> 02:34:42,720
This has been added to Drive. Learn more. It's like, no, no, I want to open it in Drive.

1946
02:34:42,920 --> 02:34:49,240
I have my I have my new product in new product introductions inventory planning sheet.

1947
02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:53,600
I think Drive awful. And I'm trying to oh, no, oh, cool.

1948
02:34:53,800 --> 02:34:57,440
It enhanced without being blurry this time.

1949
02:34:57,640 --> 02:35:03,800
Cool. OK, hit me, Dan. Dear Daniel Besser, please could you ask the relevant authorities if we might be

1950
02:35:03,800 --> 02:35:06,760
able to receive an update on the production of the pencil scribe driver?

1951
02:35:06,960 --> 02:35:17,480
Yours, faithfully, a Brit in need of a pencil. OK, the last NPI document I have says current launch date April 30th, 2025.

1952
02:35:17,680 --> 02:35:22,080
What does NPI mean, Linus? New product introduction.

1953
02:35:22,320 --> 02:35:25,920
So that didn't happen.

1954
02:35:26,120 --> 02:35:30,920
Good job. We don't have a history of that at this company at all.

1955
02:35:31,120 --> 02:35:35,520
In all seriousness, sometimes in all seriousness, we are way tighter about things

1956
02:35:35,720 --> 02:35:40,200
now, but what I'm trying to say is soon.

1957
02:35:40,520 --> 02:35:46,360
Soon. My knees were kind of like I'm chanting it in Floodplain Chat.

1958
02:35:46,360 --> 02:35:50,480
Do we have anything we can say about Mod Mat? We'll have updates when we can.

1959
02:35:50,680 --> 02:35:54,280
It will be ready when it is ready. And we'll update you when we're able to.

1960
02:35:54,480 --> 02:35:56,760
Only when it is ready.

1961
02:35:57,720 --> 02:36:01,360
My niece is having trouble finding a PC under a thousand dollars to play

1962
02:36:01,560 --> 02:36:05,640
Fortnite and Roblox, any tips on how to navigate ultra low budget PC buying?

1963
02:36:05,840 --> 02:36:09,280
It's hard to know the line between performance and requirements.

1964
02:36:09,480 --> 02:36:16,280
Do I ever have tips on that? May I may I suggest really great?

1965
02:36:16,440 --> 02:36:20,080
Well, OK, YouTube channel, a bit of a

1966
02:36:20,280 --> 02:36:24,200
narcissistic host, you'll have to kind of get past that whiny voice.

1967
02:36:24,400 --> 02:36:28,160
So check this out. So Linus tech tips.

1968
02:36:28,360 --> 02:36:34,360
Yeah, yeah, this this guy right here. Oh, awful. Anyway, the point is you just go on the videos.

1969
02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:40,600
OK, this is a man. They really do like clutter up with these members only videos.

1970
02:36:40,800 --> 02:36:45,520
Anyway, the point is you kind of scroll down and you see if there's any good ones

1971
02:36:45,560 --> 02:36:49,560
on, you know, making a cheap computer.

1972
02:36:49,560 --> 02:36:55,640
OK, you know what, I give up on that. So why don't we just use search because the year is 2025 Linus tech tips.

1973
02:36:55,840 --> 02:37:02,600
Cheap PC build. Here we go. OK, here's a five hundred dollar gaming PC.

1974
02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:07,280
Oh, a sixty nine dollar gaming PC from two months ago.

1975
02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:10,800
Hey, that looks pretty good. We could try.

1976
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:16,640
Yeah, I wouldn't build the lowest rated PC. But the ultimate five hundred dollar gaming PC from four months ago.

1977
02:37:16,640 --> 02:37:22,360
That looks pretty solid, pretty solid. Oh, you could pick a good budget gaming CPU that no one ever told you about from a

1978
02:37:22,560 --> 02:37:28,200
month ago. Lots of really good resources here. Oh, what about the repairing the perfect PC?

1979
02:37:28,400 --> 02:37:31,800
No, I wouldn't recommend that the perfect PC at every price, though.

1980
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:36,680
Hey, there's a good one. Yeah.

1981
02:37:36,880 --> 02:37:41,760
Heck, yeah, I would say of these, I want to go ultimate five hundred dollar gaming

1982
02:37:41,760 --> 02:37:45,680
PC, and then maybe you could make a couple, a couple clever upgrades.

1983
02:37:45,680 --> 02:37:49,120
You could have a look at perfect PC at every price and then the five hundred

1984
02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:52,240
dollar gaming PC is kind of somewhere in between there.

1985
02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:57,280
Hey, Wanda DLO downsizing from three gaming

1986
02:37:57,480 --> 02:38:00,360
PCs to just one with sunshine slash moonlight.

1987
02:38:00,560 --> 02:38:04,400
What are your thoughts on the current state of self hosted game streaming?

1988
02:38:04,600 --> 02:38:10,840
Super cool. If we do a tech house, which is kind of in conversation,

1989
02:38:11,080 --> 02:38:15,680
I don't think I would run fiber optic DisplayPort and fiber USB everywhere.

1990
02:38:15,880 --> 02:38:20,920
I think I would just go sunshine, moonlight, run cat 6a everywhere and just

1991
02:38:21,120 --> 02:38:25,960
fricking have one gaming PC and then like I want to try that in clients, man.

1992
02:38:26,160 --> 02:38:31,120
So cool. I talked to you about my issues with sunshine, moonlight.

1993
02:38:31,520 --> 02:38:38,440
No, I meant to talk about this on Wanshow, but I think I just completely forgot and it's it's been a few weeks now.

1994
02:38:38,560 --> 02:38:41,640
So I'm going to try to make sure I get all this accurate.

1995
02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:49,280
But I was trying to set that up at home. I bought a new controller because Linus wouldn't stop harassing me.

1996
02:38:49,480 --> 02:38:54,840
It never worked and you stole so many of our gaming sessions.

1997
02:38:55,040 --> 02:38:57,840
So I got a new controller

1998
02:38:58,040 --> 02:39:04,960
and it comes with a little charging dock thingy.

1999
02:39:05,160 --> 02:39:10,080
A charging dock come with it, but it was like really cheap. Right. So it has a cheap charging dock. Yes.

2000
02:39:10,280 --> 02:39:13,520
Yeah. And that has a dongle in it, which is nice.

2001
02:39:13,720 --> 02:39:17,120
It's a dongle. Good wireless connectivity. Cool.

2002
02:39:17,320 --> 02:39:20,240
I don't have to have it be wired anymore. Wow.

2003
02:39:20,440 --> 02:39:25,240
Neat. This is this is compelling. So wait, you say this controller,

2004
02:39:25,440 --> 02:39:29,120
you say this controller can charge. I can explain why that matters.

2005
02:39:29,320 --> 02:39:32,320
It can charge on a dock and it's wireless matters.

2006
02:39:32,520 --> 02:39:35,920
But does it wirelessly charge?

2007
02:39:36,120 --> 02:39:41,520
You know, maybe they'll come technically. Yeah, really with no wires.

2008
02:39:41,720 --> 02:39:45,840
Yep, sans wires even.

2009
02:39:46,040 --> 02:39:53,200
Where are you going with this? OK, my reason for that is I don't have the Bluetooth things for my computer.

2010
02:39:53,400 --> 02:39:57,800
You don't have the Bluetooth things. I have one idea where I could buy the little antennas.

2011
02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:04,240
Yeah, no, the Bluetooth things or I could buy the base,

2012
02:40:04,280 --> 02:40:08,600
the dock charging thing. My dock was the same price.

2013
02:40:08,800 --> 02:40:12,000
So I decided to go with that one. Oh, what a story.

2014
02:40:12,200 --> 02:40:17,000
And cable to use the controller wirelessly.

2015
02:40:17,200 --> 02:40:22,120
I can play games on my TV, which is cool. So I want to do that without running a super long HDMI cable.

2016
02:40:22,320 --> 02:40:26,560
So I was trying to set up this setup to install.

2017
02:40:26,760 --> 02:40:30,960
Which one is it? I don't know. Is it sunshine on the TV?

2018
02:40:31,160 --> 02:40:35,040
I can't remember. To install whichever one has to go on the TV.

2019
02:40:35,240 --> 02:40:41,080
It turned out that I needed a app on the TV, which is like developer mode or whatever.

2020
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:46,000
And in order to install that app, you have to have

2021
02:40:46,200 --> 02:40:50,960
a developer account. Oh, you have an LG TV?

2022
02:40:51,160 --> 02:40:54,480
Nice, web OS. Nice to.

2023
02:40:54,680 --> 02:41:00,000
So I set up an account. And

2024
02:41:00,200 --> 02:41:03,240
it was like acting a little bit weird when I was setting the account up.

2025
02:41:03,440 --> 02:41:06,240
So I immediately signed out and went to go sign back in.

2026
02:41:06,440 --> 02:41:12,200
So I was like, I don't trust that if I remember correctly, there's only one password field that doesn't get you to verify your password.

2027
02:41:12,400 --> 02:41:17,440
And there were some other stuff that was just acting oddly. And it refused my login.

2028
02:41:17,640 --> 02:41:22,120
So I'm like, OK, well, forgot password. I'll just reset my password and fix it.

2029
02:41:22,320 --> 02:41:25,480
Go to enter my password again. You can't use the same password twice.

2030
02:41:25,680 --> 02:41:29,640
Nice. Like, hmm, OK. And I've done it before where I've

2031
02:41:29,840 --> 02:41:33,560
typoed a password the same way twice and then not been able to figure it out.

2032
02:41:33,760 --> 02:41:37,280
But it wasn't except I was copy pasting. Oh, so.

2033
02:41:37,480 --> 02:41:42,560
But anyways, so I make a new one, reset the password all good.

2034
02:41:42,760 --> 02:41:45,600
I'm logged in. It's all cool. I log out.

2035
02:41:45,800 --> 02:41:50,680
I go to log back in again. Doesn't work. Forgot password reset password.

2036
02:41:50,880 --> 02:41:53,880
Can't use the same password. Bro, what the heck?

2037
02:41:54,080 --> 02:41:58,640
Because I have to make the account on my computer or my phone and then I have to

2038
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:04,800
log in on the TV, so I have to log in again. I can't this whole like you can only log in one thing will not work for me.

2039
02:42:04,800 --> 02:42:08,960
I have to log in again. So I'm like, OK, OK, so I make a new account.

2040
02:42:09,160 --> 02:42:13,400
Like maybe that accounts just screwed up. Exact same problem.

2041
02:42:13,600 --> 02:42:20,000
OK, OK, OK. Well, I'm realizing I'm on the American site anyways and my TV actually cares

2042
02:42:20,000 --> 02:42:24,840
and it has to be the Canadian site. So let me do that. So I'll make an account on the Canadian site.

2043
02:42:25,040 --> 02:42:28,400
Oh, well, you can't use the same email on both for some reason.

2044
02:42:28,600 --> 02:42:33,000
But sure, why not? So I have a lot of emails. That's fine. I'll use another email.

2045
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:36,280
I'll make another account. Weird fact, but OK, I get signed in.

2046
02:42:36,480 --> 02:42:39,560
No problem. Sign out. Sign back in doesn't work.

2047
02:42:39,760 --> 02:42:43,920
Reset password. Can't use the same password. It's the same problem.

2048
02:42:44,120 --> 02:42:47,200
I can't. I can't log in. I can't.

2049
02:42:47,400 --> 02:42:50,840
I cannot log into this account. No matter what I do.

2050
02:42:51,080 --> 02:42:57,280
I don't know why it won't work. I email their support and they send me a link.

2051
02:42:57,480 --> 02:43:00,720
I detail everything. I detail everything that I did.

2052
02:43:00,920 --> 02:43:05,200
All the different accounts, the different regions, everything.

2053
02:43:05,400 --> 02:43:11,200
I get a response back that is not. I promise you it is not a generic auto reply.

2054
02:43:11,400 --> 02:43:14,800
It took like two days to get the response. It's clearly someone typed it out.

2055
02:43:15,000 --> 02:43:19,480
They just linked me the forgot your password link.

2056
02:43:19,520 --> 02:43:22,320
I have nothing else.

2057
02:43:23,720 --> 02:43:28,760
And when I got that email, I just like, all right, whatever, I'm just going to like come back to this in a couple of weeks

2058
02:43:28,960 --> 02:43:32,200
and whatever bug they probably have will hopefully be resolved.

2059
02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:36,520
Is there not a link app for WebOS? I haven't tried.

2060
02:43:37,920 --> 02:43:42,120
I don't think there was. I think I think I checked and I don't think there was.

2061
02:43:42,320 --> 02:43:46,760
Funny hat says I've lost the plot. What's going on now? User error.

2062
02:43:46,960 --> 02:43:51,240
No, I just I just. I just fucking I'm just fucking it.

2063
02:43:51,440 --> 02:43:54,680
I'm getting password on sign up. Yeah, it's it might be something like that, too.

2064
02:43:54,680 --> 02:43:59,000
I don't know. There's something weird. I ran into a problem recently. I want I don't want to say what organization it was.

2065
02:43:59,200 --> 02:44:03,000
But I think I took a picture of it or I took a screenshot or something.

2066
02:44:03,200 --> 02:44:07,160
Well, that's going to make it just obvious. One of the well, I'm not going to show it,

2067
02:44:07,160 --> 02:44:13,440
but I want to go look at what the actual rules were. One of the probably worst rules for passwords.

2068
02:44:13,640 --> 02:44:16,960
Is like ever seen.

2069
02:44:17,160 --> 02:44:20,200
Yeah, so it has to have an uppercase letter.

2070
02:44:20,400 --> 02:44:23,920
It has to have a lowercase letter. It has to have a number.

2071
02:44:24,120 --> 02:44:27,800
It has to have a symbol. It has to have at least eight characters.

2072
02:44:28,000 --> 02:44:31,480
But it cannot be more than 15 characters.

2073
02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:37,440
Why? So it has to be between eight and 15 characters.

2074
02:44:37,640 --> 02:44:42,000
All those bits in there on their their storage server for that.

2075
02:44:42,040 --> 02:44:46,560
So there's there's like a very small range

2076
02:44:46,760 --> 02:44:50,840
of character counts that the password could even be. And then there's like all these.

2077
02:44:51,040 --> 02:44:55,160
I don't know, just way to way to make your thing less secure.

2078
02:44:55,360 --> 02:45:00,640
My goodness. That's hilarious. OK, well, someone get Luke a password manager.

2079
02:45:00,640 --> 02:45:05,080
I have one. What are you even talking about? What does that have to do with what I'm doing?

2080
02:45:05,280 --> 02:45:09,400
Whatever. Anyways. Oh, Jesus, Dan.

2081
02:45:09,600 --> 02:45:15,000
Hello, DL up. I've been curious about the silicon lottery and how some CPUs on the same batch

2082
02:45:15,200 --> 02:45:18,120
can be better than others. What exactly is better?

2083
02:45:18,320 --> 02:45:26,480
Like, how do the last better ones even work? So there's a ton of redundancy when you manufacture high complexity silicon

2084
02:45:26,680 --> 02:45:33,320
products, more than you would probably imagine is is wasted to having a backup

2085
02:45:33,520 --> 02:45:37,320
plan in case there is a small imperfection.

2086
02:45:37,600 --> 02:45:43,040
So that's part of it, is you can have one that has

2087
02:45:43,240 --> 02:45:48,560
that is that is is higher quality in certain spots.

2088
02:45:48,760 --> 02:45:55,800
So, for instance, like back when NVIDIA had those GPUs in the four sixty five

2089
02:45:56,000 --> 02:46:00,400
four seventy days where some of the four sixty fives could be unlocked to have

2090
02:46:00,600 --> 02:46:04,280
additional functional units, that means that they

2091
02:46:04,440 --> 02:46:09,600
they didn't have so many defects in some of those some of the forget if they were

2092
02:46:09,800 --> 02:46:13,520
called SMs back then, but whatever in some of those functional units

2093
02:46:13,720 --> 02:46:21,000
such that they had to be shut off. So part of it is you can just have parts of the CPU that have so many

2094
02:46:21,200 --> 02:46:25,160
problems with our GPU or whatever it is that have so many problems with them

2095
02:46:25,360 --> 02:46:28,680
that they they can't turn on that part of it.

2096
02:46:28,880 --> 02:46:34,040
You can also have ones that have more parts of them that can be turned on

2097
02:46:34,160 --> 02:46:39,400
versus ones that can have fewer parts. That's why you'll get like AMD's tricors back in the day.

2098
02:46:39,600 --> 02:46:44,840
Those were all quad core CPUs, but like one of the cores was in many cases dead

2099
02:46:45,040 --> 02:46:50,240
or in many cases actually not dead and you could unlock them to quad core processors.

2100
02:46:50,440 --> 02:46:55,920
OK, so then the other part is more to do with the overall quality of it.

2101
02:46:56,120 --> 02:46:59,600
And that's where everything might work,

2102
02:46:59,880 --> 02:47:05,000
but it might not be within the target power envelope or thermal envelope for that

2103
02:47:05,200 --> 02:47:11,080
particular part, so they might have to turn off some cores or turn off some cash

2104
02:47:11,280 --> 02:47:14,560
for that reason, probably wouldn't affect cash so much.

2105
02:47:14,560 --> 02:47:17,760
But but cores for sure, you might have to turn off some cores in order to make

2106
02:47:17,960 --> 02:47:24,080
this one fit into the power envelope for a core i5 in the 14th gen or whatever

2107
02:47:24,280 --> 02:47:31,280
the case may be. So basically what it comes down to is that it's pretty much black magic at this

2108
02:47:31,480 --> 02:47:34,560
point, how they managed to make anything as small as it is.

2109
02:47:34,760 --> 02:47:39,560
There are a ton of defects in them, both small defects in terms of like, oh,

2110
02:47:39,760 --> 02:47:45,040
yeah, this gap is like this many like freaking angstroms larger or smaller

2111
02:47:45,240 --> 02:47:49,960
than it's supposed to be. And that could affect the power or performance character,

2112
02:47:49,960 --> 02:47:54,160
switching speeds of it or whatever else. You can have defects like that.

2113
02:47:54,360 --> 02:47:59,080
You can have defects that are caused by contamination.

2114
02:47:59,280 --> 02:48:03,440
So they build in a ton of redundancy and they also use binning as they're

2115
02:48:03,640 --> 02:48:08,520
sorting all of these dyes to turn them into different products at different tiers

2116
02:48:08,720 --> 02:48:13,320
based on what they know during the pre-production process and the design

2117
02:48:13,520 --> 02:48:19,760
process is going to be their defect rate. So silicon lottery basically just means that,

2118
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:27,880
you know, both of these chips might, you know, pass the minimum bar of how many cores need to be active and what kind of power

2119
02:48:27,880 --> 02:48:35,160
and thermal characteristics it's supposed to have. But one was like slightly more better and that's great.

2120
02:48:36,360 --> 02:48:43,400
And one of them wasn't and you either get a better one or you don't. And there's absolutely no way of knowing because Intel or AMD or NVIDIA,

2121
02:48:43,400 --> 02:48:47,400
they don't want to go into things with that degree of granularity because then

2122
02:48:47,440 --> 02:48:51,560
their product stack becomes an absolute cluster bomb.

2123
02:48:52,960 --> 02:48:57,120
And last one I've got for you today. Hello, LD.

2124
02:48:57,320 --> 02:49:00,560
Just wondering, will the cargo shorts come back sometime in the future?

2125
02:49:00,760 --> 02:49:07,720
I love mine. Just wish I had gotten more. Oh, Alan actually has a really, really cool way of explaining the like the small

2126
02:49:07,920 --> 02:49:15,120
defects, like differences in gaps and stuff. Remember, folks, computers are actually analog machines that operate on digital

2127
02:49:15,120 --> 02:49:19,680
logic. So small defects can change the analog characteristics without affecting

2128
02:49:19,880 --> 02:49:25,520
the binary logic up to a point. If you crank up the analog, the Boolean logic breaks down.

2129
02:49:25,720 --> 02:49:29,920
So analog meaning like voltage current temperatures, things that are inherently analog.

2130
02:49:30,120 --> 02:49:33,040
Yeah, that's a really good way of explaining that.

2131
02:49:33,240 --> 02:49:37,920
OK, cargo shorts, I don't know. Hold on, let me see.

2132
02:49:46,120 --> 02:49:50,240
Oh, that wouldn't be a new product introduction anyway, so it wouldn't be on

2133
02:49:50,440 --> 02:49:55,040
this document, so I honestly have no idea. I'm sorry, maybe.

2134
02:49:55,240 --> 02:49:56,920
I think so.

2135
02:50:01,120 --> 02:50:04,120
If they do, they do. Not this year.

2136
02:50:07,400 --> 02:50:11,480
Yeah, not this year. And that's it.

2137
02:50:11,680 --> 02:50:14,480
We'll see you again next week, guys. Same bad time.

2138
02:50:14,680 --> 02:50:18,560
Same bad channel. I'll see you soon, I guess.

2139
02:50:18,760 --> 02:50:20,640
Oh, yeah, see you soon.