WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.000 And three 00:00:04.920 --> 00:00:11.420 You mean three yeah, whoo, okay, we're back 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:27.000 All right, are we live oh I I hear a little in yeah, oh, let me go. I don't know what that is, but there's definitely something 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:36.760 Anything testing talk checkity check check check check check. I think it's good 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.400 You're probably hearing my headphones through my mic 00:00:43.360 --> 00:00:53.120 Hello, hello, hello Okay, so that's fine then yes should be fixed now. Okay. All right. We good just 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.400 Doing Facebook again All right. Good morning y'all 00:01:00.360 --> 00:01:04.680 Oh Okay 00:01:07.880 --> 00:01:09.880 Should we should we do this thing 00:01:11.800 --> 00:01:18.720 Give me one sec, but yeah should be ready we're back on Twitter back off the plane. Okay, cool. Oh 00:01:19.520 --> 00:01:23.900 Right, can we can could we add some water to the thumbnail? Oh, yeah, sure 00:01:30.160 --> 00:01:38.360 Did Linus change nationalities what nationality do I sound like now? 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:42.040 I have no idea 00:01:43.240 --> 00:01:45.240 Fascinating very curious 00:01:55.880 --> 00:01:59.040 Sounds more American what? 00:02:00.360 --> 00:02:02.360 I don't know guys. I 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:16.400 It's the y'all I say y'all sometimes he does say y'all sometimes that really yeah, that's a bit of a miss 00:02:17.480 --> 00:02:23.060 Howdy y'all I don't know how often you say howdy. I don't know not very y'all 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:29.160 I'd be more likely to say highly hodling neighbor, you know 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.120 Then howdy. Yes. Yeah 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:38.520 Unsubbed you to the howdy 00:02:40.600 --> 00:02:42.600 Don't be getting rowdy over my howdy 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:49.960 The weather's cloudy 00:02:53.040 --> 00:02:55.040 It's not very many paths from there 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.000 I 00:03:08.320 --> 00:03:10.320 Hockey player drew dowdy 00:03:13.920 --> 00:03:17.640 Feels like it's not what it feels like cheating 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:32.000 You 00:04:00.760 --> 00:04:02.760 Um 00:04:08.320 --> 00:04:11.160 Okay chat suggesting some topics 00:04:12.160 --> 00:04:17.920 They want me to talk about the podcast that I was on honestly. It was so long ago. I hardly even remember it and it was back at 00:04:20.440 --> 00:04:25.840 Vid summit when the heck was vid summit vid summit 2025 dates. Oh 00:04:26.840 --> 00:04:35.320 Wow, that was only two months ago time flies when you're having fun, uh, okay 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:41.680 Wow, all right, cool Oh 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:55.960 Yeah, have we talked about the fridge ads yet? Oh, yeah, no, I think we talked about that last week, right? 00:04:56.520 --> 00:05:01.960 Samsung having ads on their fridges. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I mean, there's not really much to say other than well 00:05:01.960 --> 00:05:04.560 There's that person that had like a that's bad. Oh 00:05:05.080 --> 00:05:11.360 Like the episode yeah, I mean that could have happened with any ad to be clear 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:17.520 There shouldn't have been an ad your TV talking to you is strange. Oh, well, I guess that's true 00:05:17.520 --> 00:05:21.180 I didn't yeah, I didn't think about it like that. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah 00:05:22.440 --> 00:05:25.840 It makes sense to me like if it's if it's your 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.520 Did I say your TV talking to you? You know what I meant. No, I 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:36.320 Understood, I understood your TV talking to you is normal. Yeah, you're fridge talking to you toaster talking. Yeah, exactly 00:05:36.320 --> 00:05:42.320 Yeah Yeah, I could understand walking to the kitchen having your TV talk to you or your eye 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.720 This is gonna be a rough show your fridge talk to you and just being like all right 00:05:47.520 --> 00:05:49.520 My brain is out of the building now 00:05:59.520 --> 00:06:04.920 Kitsune sensei says your voice sounds like me this morning and I had an intense office Christmas party 00:06:06.840 --> 00:06:11.280 So did I yeah You already had some 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:16.240 Some going on but the Christmas party definitely pushed it over the edge. Yeah yesterday was not an 00:06:17.520 --> 00:06:21.520 Unchallenging day. Yeah Oh 00:06:26.520 --> 00:06:28.920 I should get the dashboard open, okay, we good 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:42.200 All right, I'll open up the thing I'm gonna open the thing ah, I'm gonna try I'm gonna do a bunch of 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.240 multi-factor authentication first 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.680 Oh my god kill me 00:06:50.520 --> 00:06:52.520 Ah 00:06:54.440 --> 00:06:56.440 Okay, it wasn't that bad this morning 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.480 Oh, why is it on the wrong one? 00:07:10.320 --> 00:07:16.560 Okay, I'm gonna try actually clicking the right one this week. All right, we're gonna do this thing. Yeah 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:22.160 Okay Okay, let's do it. I 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:29.240 Am resuming the selected I should take a hold on I should take a little drink before I 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:35.040 Oh 00:07:37.880 --> 00:07:42.280 Did the little plushy thing, you know 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:50.680 Sometimes it happens by accident, but if it happens on purpose that's good not without my consent. Yeah 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:58.080 That's not even that's not even thinkable that's just like he just like said something. Yeah, that's 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.480 That's just raunchy we just know what Dan likes now 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:09.920 Yeah, you do 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.440 All right, I'm resuming the selected here we go 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.480 Okay 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.200 You 00:08:53.480 --> 00:09:00.960 What is up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show we've got a great show lined up for you guys this week our 00:09:01.800 --> 00:09:08.660 Headline topic is of course that micron is going all in on AI and 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:13.600 abandoning us poor consumers I 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:22.640 Like the products Luke So what if they had a couple price-fixing scandals over the years who in the DRAM industry didn't 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:28.120 Okay, yeah, I mean that's I mean that's how price-fixing works 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.880 It's when the whole industry gets together and it's like 00:09:31.800 --> 00:09:37.600 You know what if we're not the bad guy, but they're all sorry if we're the bad guy and they're also the bad guy 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:43.640 Then we won't stand out. What are you gonna do about it? But seriously quality products that just evil 00:09:43.640 --> 00:09:48.640 I guess we just Don't get to buy anymore. So we're gonna be talking about that 00:09:48.760 --> 00:09:58.560 We're also gonna be talking about Netflix making things worse for everyone again and the justification for this is just it's so weak 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:03.860 You know, it's so weak. It's a month Oh 00:10:05.340 --> 00:10:10.220 Speaking of not weak Intel GPU market share hits a record level, okay 00:10:14.460 --> 00:10:19.760 Intel is officially the one percent. Yeah, congratulations Intel time to buy a McMansion 00:10:21.780 --> 00:10:29.540 Unfortunately the other end of the one financing and I don't know rip cherry cherry is like 00:10:30.300 --> 00:10:34.780 I Going up not for the same reasons as Mike Ron cherries in a pie 00:10:36.740 --> 00:10:39.740 Cuz they're cooked baked well, okay, it doesn't matter 00:10:51.420 --> 00:10:53.420 No 00:10:59.540 --> 00:11:01.540 I 00:11:22.100 --> 00:11:25.500 Micron technology announced the oh god 00:11:25.940 --> 00:11:32.740 Thanks micron technology all you missed the funny part. Well, that's okay. We're good. Wait. Did they not hear any of the sponsor call? 00:11:37.860 --> 00:11:39.860 Okay, they said they could hear 00:11:40.940 --> 00:11:45.900 Guys we had our Christmas party last night and I don't drink 00:11:46.020 --> 00:11:52.260 But it was still a very tiring day and as you can probably tell I'm a little under the weather 00:11:52.300 --> 00:12:00.860 So I'm gonna do my best today. All right Micron technology has announced the impending demise of their consumer focused crucial brand on 00:12:01.620 --> 00:12:07.100 Wednesday just months after the company celebrated its 29th anniversary. I 00:12:07.820 --> 00:12:15.620 Mean that last bit seems kind of irrelevant. You're always just months away from an anniversary of some sort 29 seems kind of arbitrary 00:12:15.620 --> 00:12:21.100 I'm deleting that from the notes In a press release the memory giant stated that 00:12:21.700 --> 00:12:29.180 Micron has made the difficult decision to exit the crucial consumer business in order to improve supply and support for our larger 00:12:29.740 --> 00:12:32.980 strategic customers in faster-growing segments 00:12:35.380 --> 00:12:43.460 In a nutshell Guess what gamers you just ain't that fucking important for now for now 00:12:44.300 --> 00:12:51.900 Until you come crawling back. Yeah, everyone's talking about a constant bubble everyone crawls back to gaming 00:12:53.140 --> 00:12:55.140 Name someone who didn't 00:12:56.460 --> 00:13:04.060 How many people have exited Name someone who's exited. I mean crucial didn't exit exit, but they did kill their ballistics brand once 00:13:04.060 --> 00:13:08.420 Yeah, I mean, I feel like this has been this has been hinted towards in the cards 00:13:08.420 --> 00:13:11.340 And then now they were like mmm. There's a strong reason now 00:13:12.060 --> 00:13:18.220 Well, I don't even think it's strong reason. I think it's just as simple as EVGA. I don't think counts in this case guys 00:13:18.220 --> 00:13:20.220 Yeah, they didn't come back 00:13:21.660 --> 00:13:28.660 But they they left for like completely different reasons. Yes, I didn't leave because there was more profit elsewhere. Well, yeah 00:13:28.660 --> 00:13:35.980 I know that I mean that leaving because there's less profit where you are or leaving because there's more profit elsewhere 00:13:36.860 --> 00:13:40.780 Think they're both technically just different sides of the same coin 00:13:40.780 --> 00:13:47.180 I think they're a little different Did one of them is like leaving because of opportunity and they're the ones leaving because of the lack of opportunity. Yeah 00:13:47.460 --> 00:13:53.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah, same coin same coin different sides. I think it matters different outcomes. Yeah 00:13:54.380 --> 00:13:58.740 Um Shipments of crucial products are expected to end in 00:13:59.540 --> 00:14:03.780 2026 with warranty and support continuing for some time 00:14:04.780 --> 00:14:13.220 Um, I'm just I'm just bummed right because at the end of the day we talk about this endlessly there is an 00:14:15.140 --> 00:14:22.780 Inherent advantage to having more competition in the market and losing micron in this in this space 00:14:23.380 --> 00:14:28.280 Which I guess Technically they haven't announced 00:14:29.160 --> 00:14:31.160 Um 00:14:32.800 --> 00:14:38.440 Actually, I guess yeah, technically they haven't announced so nothing would technically 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:45.220 Prevent a DRAM module maker from buying micron DRAM chips 00:14:45.220 --> 00:14:49.320 Which seems like what they want anyway continuing to make modules out of them 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:57.840 It's just that the crucial brand the first-party micron retail brand crucial is no longer going to be 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:05.000 available to us and You know, I might have kind of talked myself out of being quite as 00:15:05.640 --> 00:15:12.640 bummed about this. I Don't think so to me it it feels like you're you're doing less competition 00:15:12.640 --> 00:15:16.520 I think there's a lot of like if you remember what happened with GPU prices during like 00:15:16.680 --> 00:15:24.720 3000 series and whatnot where they absolutely blew up and then when that demand started fading the prices didn't come back down and then AI 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:34.240 Started happening and then they went back up again Oh, be clear. I this feels like a opportunity to crank DRAM prices to be clear the AI 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:40.960 The AI price bubble in memory is absolutely going to be felt for a very long time 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:47.680 Yeah, I'm not questioning that I just mean the loss of the crucial brand specifically. Oh, yeah, whatever 00:15:47.680 --> 00:15:49.680 Maybe they weren't that crucial 00:15:51.400 --> 00:15:55.720 Like you can still buy you can still buy memory from Corsair 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:01.400 You can still buy memory from I don't know Patriot. Yeah, I mean man 00:16:01.400 --> 00:16:04.640 You've experienced this right you show up at Computex and 00:16:05.280 --> 00:16:07.760 Every year you walk the trade show floor there 00:16:08.400 --> 00:16:15.540 There's probably a dozen memory brands. You've never heard of but you're probably looking at three memory brands worth virtual chips 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:19.320 Probably there's like yeah, you got your Samsung your SK high Knicks 00:16:19.640 --> 00:16:24.160 You got your micron you got who am I forgetting guys? I'm sure I'm forgetting 00:16:24.520 --> 00:16:29.000 The Chinese one the Houston no longer change in memory technologies 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.960 Chinese brands, I don't know if we're actually seeing those in in North American products not around here today 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.440 How did I forget Samsung? Sorry? Yeah, Sam? 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:45.400 Today, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure Kingston know hyper X Kingston is not an actual DRAM 00:16:46.640 --> 00:16:51.080 Like yeah, they're not a fab. They're a module packager 00:16:51.680 --> 00:16:56.860 G-skill same thing. They are a module packager. They're not they're not actually a fab 00:16:57.920 --> 00:17:02.880 Yeah, like if I look at I just I just popped up Amazon and took a look in the sidebar 00:17:03.280 --> 00:17:09.040 Dato sure all the brands Corsair G-skill team group crucial Kingston XPG Samsung 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:14.200 All the way down. Yeah, there's basically three brands making all those chips and 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:19.560 I mean, I guess yeah, you'll still be I guess for me 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:25.220 What I am actually gonna miss I'm gonna miss crucial more probably on the SSD side 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:33.960 Because while they've for the most part actually recently, they've had some really nice gen 5 drives, but for the most part 00:17:34.760 --> 00:17:39.080 Crucial hasn't even necessarily been like the highest performing SSDs 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:43.920 But what they have been is one that I can trust that probably won't be trash 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:49.400 Whereas when I buy an SSD like when it comes to like I don't and maybe 00:17:49.800 --> 00:17:55.480 This is maybe this is a really weird mentality but I actually think I care more about 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:01.560 The the trust that I have in the brand for my SSD then for my RAM 00:18:02.120 --> 00:18:08.960 Even though like RAM can have a huge impact obviously on system stability and performance 00:18:09.120 --> 00:18:11.640 Yeah, I don't agree. I think I I'm I 00:18:12.360 --> 00:18:15.120 Just don't want I just don't want to lose my data and 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:24.040 You know in my gaming system Realistically my boot SSD probably doesn't matter that much because my point because all of my data is gonna be backed up somewhere else 00:18:24.040 --> 00:18:31.240 But there's there's areas where I'm gonna I'm gonna use an SSD that is not my gaming system and like yeah, okay 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:36.120 Yeah, I should run raid one, you know on my boot drive on my NAS 00:18:36.120 --> 00:18:41.080 It'll off-site stuff too. Yeah, I'd be just annoying to have to restore and whatnot. Yeah 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:47.720 Yeah, and like RAM I can I can run a system stress test and then I'm gonna have a pretty good idea if it works. It's a 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.400 you know, it's it's it doesn't wear the same way that NAND flash does and 00:18:54.040 --> 00:18:59.720 Man and with DRAM like the way the grading works for it. It's it's more down to speed 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:09.240 It's more down to performance bins for it So if it's like working it will probably stay working like there isn't like a better reliability grade 00:19:09.360 --> 00:19:18.280 Whereas with NAND flash They're graded not just in terms of performance, but they're graded in terms of their reliability in terms of so 00:19:18.760 --> 00:19:26.400 When I'm buying an SSD from a rando brand, I don't know if I'm getting an OCC agility or if I'm getting 00:19:28.040 --> 00:19:35.080 You know, I again so now I'm sitting here going okay, well who who am I going to then for my 00:19:35.800 --> 00:19:44.760 Definitely using reliable Tier NAND in their consumer brand plenty of other options. Yeah, there's Samsung who's probably gonna be probably will be fine 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:51.480 Give me another give me another first party one though. Like actually does SK. I just can't it does have their own consumer 00:19:52.840 --> 00:20:00.560 Isn't that SK hynix? No No, SK hynix has their own consumer brand, but I don't think they're I don't think they have a presence in North America 00:20:01.560 --> 00:20:05.600 Uh, does team group just use them a lot? I remember there being something about that 00:20:06.320 --> 00:20:09.200 SK hynix, I'm gonna I'm gonna check. Oh 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.800 Yeah, SK hynix is in North America now 00:20:13.360 --> 00:20:21.600 Okay, just first party branded What the heck is this? Oh, Clev. That's what I was thinking not team group Clev my bad 00:20:22.560 --> 00:20:28.200 My bad. I meant. Yeah, I meant Clev. I don't know why I screwed those up. It's Dan. Hi. He's the problem. It's Dan 00:20:30.560 --> 00:20:35.120 Check this out. Oh, that's Luke. I pressed Linus laptop 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:41.520 Nice, so I was uh, yeah, so SK hynix definitely also. What is this? 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:51.360 Huh, oh my oh my oh my oh my yeah, Clev is closely tied to SK hynix 00:20:51.360 --> 00:20:57.200 It's from the brand SM core, which is they distribute SK hynix memory blah blah blah got it. Okay, cool 00:20:57.600 --> 00:20:59.600 Anyway 00:21:01.280 --> 00:21:04.800 Still a downer We're we're never gonna root for 00:21:05.520 --> 00:21:12.240 A company exiting a space because no, this is bad. Yeah, because from our point of view more competition is more better 00:21:12.800 --> 00:21:14.800 But it's not like, uh 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:18.000 It's clear where their focus has been anyway 00:21:19.360 --> 00:21:22.160 Yeah, um, like they could have kept the crucial brand 00:21:22.800 --> 00:21:28.400 And just quietly like not manufactured anything and they might not have had the same, you know 00:21:29.360 --> 00:21:36.000 Headline splash that they're getting now But the effect would have been exactly the same because they're only making so many wafers 00:21:37.520 --> 00:21:42.800 And then they choose what to make on those wafers and they're obviously going to target 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:49.600 Their commercial customers Yeah, and it's been it's been if you if you've been paying attention at all 00:21:49.600 --> 00:21:55.760 Which I can I don't really blame you too much for not But if you have it's been pretty brutally and blatantly obvious that 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:58.640 Nobody in the DRAM space cares about you at all 00:21:59.600 --> 00:22:06.960 Just like it's literally commodity be super clear and and it has been constant price fixing for like 00:22:08.320 --> 00:22:13.360 Getting close to like 30 years like this is not not constant but a cycle 00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:18.720 There's been a cycle of hey these guys all got caught place. They've been caught price fixing 00:22:19.280 --> 00:22:26.560 Every like five to eight years for like 30 years. I think it's been a me that feels constant three times that I can think of 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:33.680 In the time that I've been a pc enthusiast But when I when I say it's literally commodity, I do mean it is like literally 00:22:34.320 --> 00:22:36.880 A commodity like you can you can get an account on 00:22:37.360 --> 00:22:43.120 DRAM exchange and you can watch the tickers for all the various all the various DRAMs 00:22:43.840 --> 00:22:48.720 Um And that's been a thing again for as long as I've been part of the industry 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:53.360 So the good thing to go the good news is that as a commodity 00:22:54.080 --> 00:22:58.000 When it falls it actually does tend to fall fall 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:05.440 Um, and it may we may have a shot. I just feel like this might be one of the stepping stones towards resisting that fall 00:23:05.760 --> 00:23:11.280 Oh, it'll resist it. I mean remember the uh, what was it? I think it was the thailand floods that wiped out 00:23:11.360 --> 00:23:19.360 Oh, that was rough over half of the production the like global production capacity for the motors that spin hard drives 00:23:19.760 --> 00:23:26.160 Uh, that was a thing back in what was it like 20 30 or something like that really was was it was it that recently? 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.560 When when were the the I thought we were I often 00:23:31.280 --> 00:23:39.600 Gauge news based on When and where we were talking about on 2011. I'm closest without going over. Let's go. That's true. Um, no seriously though 00:23:39.600 --> 00:23:42.960 It was it was around still suffering the effects at that time. Maybe um 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:49.440 Probably that might yeah, so so that well, that's exactly what I was going to say the the thailand floods. Um 00:23:51.280 --> 00:23:56.880 So hold on they started in july intensified in september and october finally receded by january 2012 00:23:57.360 --> 00:23:59.760 So we were actually that's it. We were actually both 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:06.560 Close to the the period so during that time hard drives went from like historic lows 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:12.160 Like they were they were dirt cheap It was sort of comical like you were basically buying a hard drive 00:24:12.560 --> 00:24:16.960 For practically the like scrap metal price of a hard drive and then they went 00:24:19.280 --> 00:24:26.960 To the point where like at ncix our strategy for trying to have any hard drives in stock 00:24:29.360 --> 00:24:35.680 At hopefully some price that anyone would want to pay was we we actually enlisted people internally 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:43.280 To just go buy like retail hard drives like external hard drives and then shuck them so that we could put them in bags 00:24:43.360 --> 00:24:46.320 I don't know if we ever actually did it, but we certainly talked about it 00:24:47.040 --> 00:24:52.480 Um, just like everyone was like like land grabbing it was like the apocalypse 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:59.360 And and people like hoarding ammunition and canned food, but it was like people buying the enclosures from cosco and shucking them 00:24:59.360 --> 00:25:05.280 I remember consumers doing that because basically every drive that was out in the retail channel already 00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:12.880 That was sold at the the dirt cheap prices had just doubled or tripled in value like it was it was insane 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:18.320 um what happened and It was it was a long it was a long time 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:24.560 So on the one hand like yes, uh part of why it took so long to recover was that you don't just 00:25:25.360 --> 00:25:29.840 Build up motor factory Overnight that's just not how that works 00:25:29.840 --> 00:25:32.480 So it it took time for them to ramp production back up 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:37.040 And the other part of it is that they took their sweet time 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:45.280 ramping production back up because uh, I remember wd was probably the biggest beneficiary of it like their stock went 00:25:45.840 --> 00:25:50.720 bonkers profit maxing at the time was wild because it the actual cost 00:25:51.360 --> 00:25:54.240 Of the hard drive didn't really change 00:25:54.800 --> 00:25:58.880 It was just that the supply got choked out. Yeah, so the demand went way up 00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:02.880 So the profit margins that they were able to make went way higher, but and 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:11.440 Well, I thought you're done. I thought you're done I was gonna say I I understand that you're you're pointing out you can you can buy commodity deramble blah blah blah 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:18.400 But it really feels like uh a while ago sam altman said that they're doing great stuff with like tech innovation 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.720 But they need to start doing financial innovation and that was a little bit before 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.400 This whole circular money funnel thing started happening 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:32.160 And it feels like there are a lot more facets to this instead of just trading money in a circle 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:37.200 I think there's a lot of things happening. I think this is one of them where invidious deciding to 00:26:38.080 --> 00:26:41.680 De-couple their shipments, so they're not shipping deram with their chips anymore 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:47.840 Micron is taking crucial out of the market all this stuff is happening. It feels like they're trying to pump RAM 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.200 Uh like as hard as they can. Oh, I don't I along with everything 00:26:51.280 --> 00:26:55.680 I don't think they're pumping RAM. I think they're just I think there is a shortage 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:59.440 I think is what it boils down to because there's a there's a way for shortage right now 00:26:59.760 --> 00:27:05.600 Sure, like they can't get enough just like the invidia one is weird to me because that's just more opportunity for invidia to mark things up 00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:09.360 Well, what it is. Well, it's it's just that they can't get it 00:27:10.320 --> 00:27:17.440 They want to ship they want to ship GPU's They're just they're not going to stop shipping GPU. I don't know how much they care about shipping consumer GPU's 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:26.880 Well, no, no, but ship it. No, they'll ship. They'll ship any GPU They're just they just want to ship GPU's and if supply of deram for their packaged GPU deram 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:30.880 Packet or vram. I guess it'd be in this case, but whatever basically ramp deram 00:27:31.280 --> 00:27:39.040 Uh dynamic random access memory So if they're if they can't get the supply of the other widget like think what happened to the car industry during the silicon shortage during 00:27:39.120 --> 00:27:45.440 Covid they just had these these almost finished cars that were just waiting on processors. That's the actual problem here 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:50.960 I could be wrong. It's definitely part of it 100 percent. It's part of it. Maybe there's there's no way 00:27:51.040 --> 00:27:56.080 It's not part of it because remember too. It's not just the supply. It's also not knowing what the cost is 00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.200 So it's really hard to price something where you can't get it 00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:05.680 And also when you finally do get it it might cost more than what your anticipated quote was before 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:13.280 Invidia doesn't want to carry that liability So if they just ship the GPU's and they make it someone else's problem, then they don't have to worry about that 00:28:13.760 --> 00:28:19.520 I just think it's sure maybe I think it's part of a a series of steps that are going to result in 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.320 DRAM prices being permanently higher than they were before so 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.600 I I would say that except that 00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:33.520 The the long term the like zoom out from the the crisis we're in now 00:28:34.320 --> 00:28:37.840 zoom out view Is we've been through shortages before 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:43.360 And DRAM's overall price trend towards getting way cheaper over time 00:28:43.360 --> 00:28:48.320 My point is that they're making systemic changes that might resist that in the future crucial being out of the market and 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.320 And invidia not packaging things together and certain other steps that are happening as well 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:58.000 Well, I also agree that I think it's going to fall is this whole ai things like rather clearly a bubble 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:07.680 That's going to pop at some point. So there's there's a couple things So one is like samsung has never been in the consumer DRAM market or I shouldn't say never actually in the ddr one day 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:12.080 You could buy consumer samsung memory modules 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:22.000 But I think ddr two and onward definitely you couldn't with ddr three. They went oem only and they went uh enterprise only 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:32.880 and That clearly has not had a devastating impact on the consumer DRAM market other than when they've been caught price fixing along with the rest of the industry 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:40.880 Yeah But again, so the the macro trend of DRAM pricing marching ever downward in spite of there having been shortages 00:29:41.280 --> 00:29:46.560 They're having been price fixing scandals. They're having been major manufacturers of 00:29:47.840 --> 00:29:51.520 Of DRAM chips not participating in the retail market 00:29:51.600 --> 00:29:56.080 All of these things have been true at various points in the past and DRAM has marched 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:01.920 Ever downward other than blips and the reason that I think that this time will be no different 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:08.080 Is that unlike the thailand floods where we did see elevated hard drive pricing for a very long time 00:30:08.320 --> 00:30:13.280 They rode that wave as long as they could with the major hard drive players 00:30:13.280 --> 00:30:16.880 You've got wd and c gate sitting there, you know 00:30:17.840 --> 00:30:24.800 kind of going Yeah, who's gonna who's gonna crack who's gonna blink who's gonna blink who wants the volume back 00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.680 But the pc industry the electronics industry in general 00:30:28.080 --> 00:30:32.400 Always wants the volume back and unlike what happened with hard drives 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.760 DRAM DRAM production has not really been disrupted 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:42.640 Other than the silicon wafer shortage that's going on right now. So there's a supply 00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:46.160 Yeah, it's just it's just so much easier for them to control it because with the hard drives 00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:55.440 It was the motors right at least in this case Um with with DRAM here. It's it's nothing. There's just only three players and I I've seen some comments talking about like 00:30:55.680 --> 00:31:03.920 Oh, yeah, but it's a free market. So Someone will just come in and undercut them. Blah blah blah blah. It's not gonna happen. There's three fabs. Actually the chinese might 00:31:04.800 --> 00:31:07.440 They're working hard at it. They've got one at least. Yeah 00:31:07.840 --> 00:31:14.240 Um, and and even if they even if they don't I mean, it's a volume game once you've got your fab running 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.480 You they will they they will at times doesn't happen that often 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:23.360 But they'll they'll run them at a loss if that's the commodity market 00:31:23.360 --> 00:31:28.480 It's not that dissimilar from industries like farming which is kind of crazy to think about 00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:33.440 But once you've made the investment once you've got all the infrastructure once you've got all the trained workers 00:31:33.840 --> 00:31:40.720 For a short period of time it can actually be less impactful on your business to run it at a loss in the shorter term 00:31:41.040 --> 00:31:46.080 In order to starve out your competitors. That's how we ended up with so much consolidation in the industry 00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:50.080 um So I am 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:55.120 hopeful in the medium to longer term in the short term this is going to suck 00:31:55.520 --> 00:31:59.360 Yeah, a lot and so I think we're a hundred percent aligned there. Yes 00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:03.200 And have you guys done that thing yet? Hold on. Hold on and 00:32:03.840 --> 00:32:07.280 One thing that's going to suck for maybe the short to even medium term 00:32:07.600 --> 00:32:13.920 Is that while they are not turning off any capacity other than what is constrained by a lack of wafers 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:19.040 Yeah, um the the active decision appears to have been made to not build 00:32:19.760 --> 00:32:24.720 Any more capacity. I saw at least one of them hit the news for that one of the major DRAM guys 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.600 I yeah, I haven't seen because if they built more capacity 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.720 Basically, they they run it. You just run it. You don't just let a fab sit idle 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:37.280 Um, and once that happens again commodity, I remind you 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.920 Prices will be suppressed by increased capacity 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:48.000 um But for now it's going to be a really really really rough ride 00:32:49.040 --> 00:32:55.280 What do you got there? Yeah, two of the biggest DRAM suppliers are skeptical about increasing production as they eye long term profitability 00:32:55.360 --> 00:32:58.800 Yeah, I mean wouldn't you if WCCF tech everyone 00:32:59.760 --> 00:33:02.720 Pretty much with two functioning brain cells to rub together 00:33:03.280 --> 00:33:08.800 Knows that this AI thing Is not going to continue on its parabolic 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.360 Trend forever samsung and sk hynix. Those are the two 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:18.240 Like if you listen to if you listen to, you know, sam altman talk about it. He's like, yeah 00:33:19.040 --> 00:33:26.080 uh AI forever forever AI to infinity and beyond right like they uh 00:33:26.800 --> 00:33:30.160 Kind of showed their concerned hand a little bit. They have lately. Yeah 00:33:30.560 --> 00:33:37.760 So if you were if you were a DRAM manufacturer and you were looking at the currently scaling demand for AI DRAM 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:42.160 Would you go? Hmm. I've seen this movie before 00:33:42.800 --> 00:33:46.480 No, I am not going to 10x my manufacturing capacity 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:54.640 Because when the demand inevitably Collapses or at the very least levels off. I'm going to be stuck with 00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:02.000 You know half a dozen fabs that I just don't have any demand for that's that's going to be a pretty big write down 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.280 The kind that gets me fired um 00:34:05.280 --> 00:34:10.880 I honestly can't say that I would do anything windbond now. That's a name. I've not heard in a long time 00:34:11.040 --> 00:34:14.560 No, he mentioned this in flow plane chat. Apparently they're back in the game 00:34:15.120 --> 00:34:17.840 Uh, they're making DDR4 00:34:18.240 --> 00:34:23.840 Did they ever did they ever leave the game or did they just kind of go go quiet? Maybe they just went quiet 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:28.480 I have no idea windbond. I mean it's like dfi like, you know dfi totally still exists, right? 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:34.240 Yep, like like dfi land party like the overclocking motherboards from way back in the day. They're totally still a thing 00:34:34.240 --> 00:34:37.360 They do industrial boards um 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:43.840 Yeah, people are saying went quiet. I haven't heard about them in forever windbond. Get me some bh 5 00:34:44.720 --> 00:34:48.640 Let's go Yeah, that's interesting. Get me some overclocking 00:34:49.120 --> 00:34:56.000 ddr 1 Like that's that's the last time I remember windbond really showing up on my radar as a consumer anyway 00:34:56.080 --> 00:35:02.480 Yeah, they're specifically saying despite the increasing adoption of DDR5 many industries continue to rely on DDR4 for its proven stability 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.560 And well-established ecosystem windbonds 8 gig DDR4 d RAM is designed for 00:35:08.240 --> 00:35:14.160 neat Maybe I just haven't been away over them. Oh job would you say samsung is denying that now 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:19.680 Oh wait, no, it was responding to another chatter. So hold on. Never mind. Ignore what I just said. I thought they were talking to you 00:35:21.040 --> 00:35:24.960 um Anyway 00:35:25.520 --> 00:35:28.720 Oh in other memory news um 00:35:28.720 --> 00:35:37.760 Samsung is denying reports that its semiconductor division recently refused to give its mobile experience division a 12 month supply of d RAM 00:35:38.160 --> 00:35:42.720 And instead the mobile division to negotiate requests for d RAM quarterly 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:48.240 Stories appeared in scd daily and wccf tech citing unnamed industry sources 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:56.000 Um and pc gamer says the stories come as samsung semiconductor is restructuring production lines to focus on high margin products like hbm 00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:04.160 And low power d RAM According to an update posted by pc gamer samsung says the claim that its semiconductor division has rejected certain customer requests is 00:36:04.240 --> 00:36:10.720 Incorrect And that recent reports that samsung's ds division has rejected customer requests are baseless and not true 00:36:11.040 --> 00:36:14.320 We're in close communication with global customers to address industry needs. Okay 00:36:14.720 --> 00:36:18.720 Because that was that was kind of a spicy That was a spicy little bit of news 00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:24.480 That apparently samsung's that statement doesn't feel like it rejects the original statement at all. Did I just hear that wrong? 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.880 Is there aren't aren't they talking about like the claim was that they 00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:35.440 Refused to award a year's worth of d RAM to their mobile phone division and wanted to negotiate quarterly 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.840 And the response was we're in close communication with global customers 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:46.480 That has nothing to do with the concern, but they're also saying that it's not true that they rejected certain customer requests 00:36:47.520 --> 00:36:51.280 So what exactly this means? We'll never know 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.280 um But I sincerely doubt that 00:36:56.240 --> 00:37:01.200 Your galaxy phone is not going to get me. I was gonna say I I sincerely doubt it matters 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.920 Like how whether they start doing quarterly or yearly negotiations internally isn't who cares 00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:14.800 It might be more expensive Hooray, hooray. Yeah, it's almost certainly. It's okay. You probably don't need a new phone. So it's all right 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.200 Unless you do Which would be a downer you can use one 00:37:19.600 --> 00:37:26.400 That's true. I mean even I mean we saw it with GPU's even the second hand market can be impacted by our phones pumping right now 00:37:26.640 --> 00:37:30.080 I won't be too smart. I doubt it. Not yet. Not yet. It'll be delayed 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.400 Yeah, because I mean that's the thing right is a lot of this stuff is purchased on contract 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:38.720 So that's why there were a bunch of headlines over the last probably month or two 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:44.880 Saying that oh, yeah, watch out DRAM pricing is going to go way up like the headline started hitting 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.280 Before the price increases started hitting and they'd be like, yeah, watch out 00:37:50.320 --> 00:38:00.160 DRAM prices are going up and You know major memory oems are saying that they're completely booked through 2026 like that that's the thing right is we actually 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:06.560 Uh, oh, is this one is that one out yet? Is the kyoksia fab tour out yet? I reviewed it, but I don't know if it's up yet 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:14.240 Anyway, no, I don't I don't think it is. Anyway, one little one little detail from the kyoksia fab tour that a lot of people don't realize 00:38:14.720 --> 00:38:21.440 is that The the processes that these wafers undergo for semiconductor manufacturing 00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:28.080 it's not like It's not like they they they go and they set up the mask and they like 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:34.720 you know Hit it with the the deep uv or the extreme uv light and then it's like 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:40.960 Yay wafer done It's many many many steps 00:38:41.600 --> 00:38:46.160 Like hundreds or even thousands of steps that these wafers go through 00:38:46.560 --> 00:38:50.880 From the very start to the very end they will travel many many miles 00:38:51.200 --> 00:38:56.320 Throughout the fab to complete all the various layers and steps and and build these things up 00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.880 And it can take not it can take it takes months 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:06.880 So the timelines that these companies are operating on are not just like 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:16.160 Oh, uh, we got a big order. Let's make that order. It doesn't work like that. It's all forecasting 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:22.080 It's all pre negotiation to the greatest extent that they possibly can so it will be a while 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:30.880 before this this these Capacity constraints other various devices start to really hit us because I guarantee that someone like apple 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.520 They hit us now because word computer people 00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:37.600 Yes But in terms of like consumer electronics 00:39:37.680 --> 00:39:41.840 I guarantee you that apple is talking to major d-RAM manufacturers 00:39:42.560 --> 00:39:47.280 Many many months even years in advance sometimes for their product procurement 00:39:47.680 --> 00:39:53.040 And they are pre negotiating what their pricing is going to be so yeah the the next iphone 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.960 Might be okay, but if the ai boom continues 00:39:57.520 --> 00:40:05.440 And they don't build more supply in order to alleviate the supply constraints then the next next iphone might see a significant price jump 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:11.120 Or it might not apple apple has margin to play with which sometimes 00:40:12.240 --> 00:40:14.240 Very very rarely 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:22.960 They do use to absorb some increase in materials cost in order to keep their their retail friendly prices 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:28.480 Not Not very often, but like on their base tier on their base tier models for instance 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:32.560 They can go very aggressive sometimes like man the mac mini 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.440 They I think they had a black friday deal on it too last week 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:42.560 That thing is just such a great value and it's in its base configuration 00:40:45.520 --> 00:40:48.880 Oh, okay, thanks Dan, uh qxfab tour is coming in 10 days apparently 00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:53.520 All right. What do you want to talk about next sir? Uh, something else 00:40:54.080 --> 00:40:56.640 Something else. Let's see netflix. Hooray 00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.080 Uh, netflix makes things worse for everyone again. Wow 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:11.760 netflix buying that's what you chose Uh, it looks like this thing has been updated. Maybe yeah, we've added a new thing that happened like today 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:20.080 Wow After previously gatekeeping casting from the ad supported plan, netflix has officially removed support for casting to most 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:25.520 Devices definitely not all and some of the selection of them are weird, but to most devices 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.800 Uh, oh boy on all plans 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:36.320 I lost there it is Uh, netflix has quietly pushed an update with zero warning and only addressed the growing outrage by updating their help page 00:41:36.560 --> 00:41:39.120 After Android authority broke the story about in 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.200 F***ing station on december 1st, uh, the 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.680 Not so long list of devices is that's still allowed to cast from netflix 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:57.200 Um, but still only on the non ad supported plan is the third gen of chrome cast or older 00:41:57.680 --> 00:42:05.760 What that's a weird choice. This is what I meant. Yeah, um, google nest hub smart display, which I believe is also old 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:13.520 Um, select cast enabled visio TVs and select cast enabled compol TVs 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:22.080 Okay, uh, the the best guest the best guests that, uh, there's two different writers on this 00:42:22.080 --> 00:42:29.200 So i'm not sure but one of the writers, uh, was able to find uh, was from pill lamb mod on reddit 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:34.240 Who said that casting was the last way to circumvent password sharing rules 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.800 Before so long as your phone had connected to your home wi-fi within the last month 00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.840 You could watch netflix on any tv including a friends 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:49.520 X butters from the same thread, uh had this guess a big factor in netflix price increases are sports broadcasts 00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:58.480 The move is likely to make it more difficult to stream sports from their phones to large audiences in places like pubs, etc 00:42:58.560 --> 00:43:02.480 That's actually a super smart take. I would not have thought of that 00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.080 That's like you think there's enough money in like 00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.160 In sports in pubs having one netflix subscription 00:43:10.720 --> 00:43:15.600 Well, no because if you're in a comer if you're at a commercial address they can gate that 00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:24.640 They can monitor that Whereas if some if a consumer is there a different price for that? Probably actually that's a good question 00:43:25.120 --> 00:43:28.480 I literally don't know. I don't know it wouldn't because it wouldn't surprise 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:32.080 okay, whether they can gate it by address or by payment method or not because 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.840 I can tell you right now a service can tell if you're paying on a corporate card 00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:40.080 Yeah, they definitely like they could do those things. I just don't know if they are if nothing else 00:43:40.160 --> 00:43:42.720 They could definitely have different terms and conditions 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.280 And then they could penalize you if you are violating the terms and conditions 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.120 um Hold on. So yeah, netflix 00:43:52.240 --> 00:43:57.360 Oh, oh Right, but there's also the acquisition 00:43:58.240 --> 00:44:02.240 In the background of this The Warner Brothers saying yeah 00:44:02.560 --> 00:44:09.040 Okay. Oh, man. I feel like I got the I feel like I got the pins the pins and the strings are coming together 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:17.200 It's all coming together. I'll keep going Uh, netflix told wired that the real reason for the change is because not enough people use the feature 00:44:17.600 --> 00:44:23.440 um, which They are not the only ones that are trying to push people to just use 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.960 Built into tv apps instead of casting 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.560 Um, a lot of users say that that is better 00:44:31.040 --> 00:44:35.280 I think a lot of those users are kind of missing the point of that your 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:41.440 tv is easy to deprecate which I think we're getting into here in a second. Um, but either way 00:44:41.520 --> 00:44:44.880 What we'll get there, uh, as a totally unrelated note 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:52.080 You can still cast from plex or jellyfin and casting to tv's from vlc has become a much better experience 00:44:52.560 --> 00:44:57.280 Uh, netflix also announced that's not gonna help you that much with sports, but yeah, go ahead. Yeah, uh, 00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:05.040 um, uh netflix also announced this morning that they are buying water bros for the total enterprise value 00:45:06.560 --> 00:45:11.200 Of 82.7 billion dollars 00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:14.560 The transaction is expected to complete in q3 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:23.040 2026 Uh, one of the notes here is lmao. My favorite thing is that netflix lists 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:28.000 As beloved franchise the big bang theory that was said by elijah 00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:35.440 I mean, I can tell you there are definitely people who beloved the big there for sure are actually my grandparents freaking 00:45:36.080 --> 00:45:41.840 Love there's actually a ton of people that really like it. And that's also why it got a spin-off. I don't disagree with elijah 00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.840 I'm not necessarily the hugest fan Uh, or a fan at all, but 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.320 I don't think it's I don't think there's any benefit to putting our heads in the sand and going 00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:56.880 I don't like this thing therefore no one likes it. Yeah for sure a lot of people do like I definitely I see that attitude so much and it's like 00:45:58.560 --> 00:46:02.800 Okay, but no Yeah, that's not how that works. You don't get to decide 00:46:03.600 --> 00:46:06.560 What other people like or don't like you can disagree 00:46:07.120 --> 00:46:15.200 100% yeah, I don't think it's good entertainment personally But you don't get to decide that other people do not love it. There are a lot of fans. Yeah. Yeah 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.560 Numbers is numbers And math doesn't care what you think at all 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:26.160 Jeremy said holy should have been a headline topic. I mean, we didn't know about the Warner Brothers thing until after the show started 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:30.000 Well, we knew it was rumored. I didn't think it was uh, I didn't think it was confirmed yet 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.440 Did that just get confirmed today? Yeah 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:37.120 Wow, what a what a bomb to drop like what is going to be left 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:39.840 Of the entertainment industry 00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:46.160 Uh I 00:46:46.160 --> 00:46:52.240 Don't watch shows much. I have no idea like it's crazy like it for a long time there 00:46:52.640 --> 00:46:57.360 It was being propped up by like cable subscriptions essentially, but those are dying 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:05.280 So then now one of the worst things about this stuff is that these types of services tend to kill shows really fast 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:11.040 Oh, I know. I just don't bother getting into a show anymore. Yeah, like big bang theory is still old tv 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:16.080 Like it's not we're talking something that ran for a really long time and they got spin-offs 00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:23.680 I'd even argue Wasn't uh, it wasn't breaking bad old tv as well. Mm-hmm. I don't think game of thrones 00:47:24.080 --> 00:47:29.840 Yeah, I gave it well. That was cable. That was our cable. I thought that was like hbo. Yeah, it was hbo 00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.760 Oh, that was k. See, I don't do any of this. I'm not a i'm not a tv guy 00:47:34.560 --> 00:47:39.200 Uh, yeah, this is wild. So no so chats like yeah, what type of shows does Warner Brothers have? 00:47:39.200 --> 00:47:42.640 It's going to be disney versus netflix like yeah 00:47:44.080 --> 00:47:49.920 Amazon's going to be in there somewhere just because I don't know they have enough money to buy the earth and all the heavens apple 00:47:51.040 --> 00:47:54.480 Unless they unless they just stop being interested in it 00:47:55.120 --> 00:48:01.200 um, I don't know apples motivations in the whole traditional media space seem super hard to 00:48:02.080 --> 00:48:05.120 interpret at this point like they'll they'll do these 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:11.120 sort of vanity sort of crown jewel projects and stuff and then 00:48:13.200 --> 00:48:20.000 I don't know they don't really seem to go super mainstream because they're kind of locked down in terms of access to them 00:48:20.080 --> 00:48:26.000 and so They don't really get that much buzz and then I don't know they just seem to be kind of spinning their wheels over there 00:48:27.520 --> 00:48:33.760 Uh, okay. So dc comics is part of uh part of Warner Brothers. Ip really uh, huh? 00:48:34.160 --> 00:48:44.240 day Uh, what what else what else is in there? I mean animaniacs, I assume harry potter. Yeah, okay harry potter's a big one 00:48:46.640 --> 00:48:49.520 I mean honestly harry potter is probably 00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:54.000 Depending on how they play their cards probably worth the cost of admission 00:48:55.120 --> 00:49:01.120 Alone just in terms of how much people watch the new stuff. Oh, dude. It's not it's not even that 00:49:01.200 --> 00:49:04.640 It's like the games the volume of uh, well the games 00:49:04.720 --> 00:49:09.360 Yeah, that that whatever that game was sold like crazy with that said I want to talk about it 00:49:09.520 --> 00:49:18.320 Like I don't know what Rowling's take is though So I I don't know how how profitable the potter versus compared to you know, the ip's that they own out, right? 00:49:22.560 --> 00:49:28.480 The lego film franchise apparently uh, that's I I I doubt that that's in perpetuity though 00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.480 Like I'm sure the lego company gave themselves room to negotiate 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:37.120 Moving their ip to someone else if they really want to it's like something lord of the rings though 00:49:37.200 --> 00:49:42.560 Okay, but the lord of the rings one is complicated because Warner Brothers owns the rights to 00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:48.640 Like the lord of the rings But then there was the whole thing with amazon and the that like rings of power show 00:49:49.120 --> 00:49:55.360 Where like different parts of the timeline could maybe be licensed to someone else and that whole thing was pretty complicated 00:49:55.520 --> 00:49:59.120 If they felt like completely redoing the hobbit, uh, that'd be pretty sick 00:49:59.680 --> 00:50:05.840 Oh, yeah, yeah, that would be that'd be amazing. That'd be cool. It's just deleting that from memory 00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:16.000 Oh, it was so bad. That'd be totally fine So bad just one movie instead of three make it long have the extended edition be like four hours sure 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.200 But just yeah the lord of the rings books. It was one movie per book 00:50:21.680 --> 00:50:30.480 Hobbit is a shorter book 23 books toge kb says it's really weird because there's a uk publisher that can sell harry potter books in the uk and europe 00:50:30.560 --> 00:50:33.600 But not in the usa because someone else owns the rights to sell it there 00:50:33.680 --> 00:50:37.280 So who knows how this counts for jk rallying? That's actually a really good point 00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.240 in in in like in ip 00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:48.400 ownership and licensing um, you can end up with really convoluted structures. Yeah because 00:50:49.200 --> 00:50:53.520 The whole thing is built up at a time when it's not worth anything 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.480 in many cases and then The whole multi 00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:02.560 Billions and billions and billions of dollars empire thing comes later 00:51:03.040 --> 00:51:11.040 So someone who got in early with a certain slice of rights might have negotiated a really good deal back when it wasn't worth anything 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:17.200 And that might end up needing to be grandfathered in and worked around so the whole thing can get super complicated 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:24.400 And look chat your feelings on jk rallying are sort of irrelevant here because we're talking about money 00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:33.040 And whether you like harry potter or you think he should have been a slither in or whatever, right? 00:51:33.520 --> 00:51:37.120 Doesn't change that money 00:51:37.120 --> 00:51:40.800 Like dude evan and i were um, evan and i were over in 00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:48.960 Okay, once like looser or something in the flipping chat said wb had distribution for the big movies 00:51:49.200 --> 00:51:56.240 But amazon bought the entire ip from the tolkien family. Okay, there you go then assuming that's true that that lays things out a little bit 00:51:57.040 --> 00:52:00.880 um Anyway, yeah, so we were we were over in london last year 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:08.560 Evan and i and like we went to we were just walking around and there was this entire like store that was just 00:52:09.120 --> 00:52:14.960 harry potter Yeah, um also massive industry. We were at disneyland and or was it disneyland or universal? 00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:19.520 I can't remember whichever one has that game like i can't constantly can't remember the legacy 00:52:19.600 --> 00:52:25.520 Yeah, it was one of the best-selling games the year it came out. Just no one talked about it. Yeah, but it sold like crazy 00:52:25.680 --> 00:52:31.760 Sold like billio. Yeah, so we're we're just talking about how much they paid for this acquisition 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:37.200 Yeah, and how much money they're likely to be able to make on it in the longer term netflix is gonna 00:52:39.520 --> 00:52:43.520 Disney's someone said netflix is worth two two point five times disney. It's nuts 00:52:43.680 --> 00:52:48.640 Yeah, disney's just getting raked by everyone right now though like and i said rake to just be clear 00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:53.920 Didn't their last picks our film just like Well, i'm like they're they're they're 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:59.680 Thing forever has been uh kids stuff, right? They they get you interested at the beginning and then they keep you interested forever 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:04.800 But then the adults are super into like disney stuff and bluey is just dunking them dude 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:10.560 Mmm on the on the like actually like kids shows and bluey is dunking on everybody 00:53:11.680 --> 00:53:14.720 so Yeah, disney 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:22.560 Feels like they're falling behind a little bit disney just announced that they are re-showing endgame in theaters 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:27.840 What 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:36.080 That's wild actually that's kind of sad You know what's really i don't hear anyone talk about the marvel movies anymore any of the new ones 00:53:36.080 --> 00:53:40.160 Oh, dude. No, well, who cares no one cares at all. Eternals just killed it for me 00:53:40.720 --> 00:53:45.920 I don't even know what that is so bad. It was just unwatchable. Yeah 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:54.080 They they tried to introduce like nine new characters. Oh boy. None of it made any sense in like and and look 00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.380 I'm not i guarantee you i am not the most insufferable 00:54:00.100 --> 00:54:04.740 Mm-hmm, but actually the canon person in your life 00:54:04.740 --> 00:54:08.340 but I care I care 00:54:08.340 --> 00:54:14.900 That you care enough to at least make an attempt to help me with my suspension of disbelief here 00:54:15.300 --> 00:54:20.180 Like that that's what I care about Lord of the Rings movies had a bunch of stuff happening that didn't happen in the books 00:54:20.580 --> 00:54:28.420 But it felt truthful to the books. It felt honest to the books and and it was it was it was truthful to its own rules 00:54:28.660 --> 00:54:31.620 That it established. Yeah. Yeah. So the issue with Eternals 00:54:32.180 --> 00:54:41.220 Is that it basically took Everything that had happened up until that point which included like endgame and stuff like like like universe level 00:54:41.620 --> 00:54:45.300 Annihilation s*** right and was like, yeah, these guys 00:54:45.780 --> 00:54:48.980 They're so powerful that they could have prevented it all 00:54:49.540 --> 00:54:54.500 But they were sleeping It's like what are you even talking about? 00:54:54.820 --> 00:55:00.180 Like that's so stupid Don't disrespect me like that. There's different like 00:55:00.820 --> 00:55:05.940 Uh, man, like I I've heard about the the witcher show. I never watched it, but I heard that it was like 00:55:06.900 --> 00:55:10.340 Very difficult to keep the showrunners like 00:55:11.620 --> 00:55:15.380 on lore Yeah, I've heard that about a bunch of different things 00:55:16.020 --> 00:55:21.060 Well, it's because everyone has their own like ego, right? Yeah, and they want to put their own fingerprints on it 00:55:21.060 --> 00:55:27.620 Then with like lord of the rings you hear about how the cast and the director and everyone was like would basically walk around set with the books 00:55:28.580 --> 00:55:32.420 And would just like constantly be reading and try to figure out what their character would do in different scenarios 00:55:32.420 --> 00:55:35.060 It's almost like you acquired the source material 00:55:35.540 --> 00:55:39.300 For a reason. Yeah, right and like you don't have to stick to it perfectly 00:55:39.380 --> 00:55:43.220 It's a movie you have to change some things to keep pace up and do all these other kinds of things 00:55:43.460 --> 00:55:48.740 But as long as you're like trying to do it justice it's it's a completely different scenario 00:55:48.740 --> 00:55:52.580 Yeah, and and to be clear there are cases 00:55:53.220 --> 00:55:59.460 There are cases Where dramatic changes can be made to the source ip and you can still end up with a great product 00:55:59.540 --> 00:56:03.780 How to train your dragon is the example. I always come back to yeah, okay 00:56:04.420 --> 00:56:07.620 toothless In the how to train your dragon novels 00:56:08.340 --> 00:56:10.580 Okay, toothless is like this big 00:56:12.260 --> 00:56:17.220 And at the very beginning the humans and dragons coexist and the dragons are like 00:56:17.940 --> 00:56:25.460 Like Basically have the role of like dogs in their in their universe. Wasn't it like the the author like supported the changes or whatever? 00:56:25.780 --> 00:56:29.300 She was yeah, she helped. Yeah, which is like that's also awesome 00:56:29.860 --> 00:56:34.820 But how to train your dragon one which other than the main character being named hiccup 00:56:35.380 --> 00:56:43.460 And his dragon being named toothless And his dad being named stoic like other than names and that it was like viking themed 00:56:43.940 --> 00:56:49.380 Has nothing to do with the first novel of how to train your dragon and it is a perfect movie 00:56:50.020 --> 00:56:57.460 Literally perfect I I will I will go on record saying how to train your dragon the first animated film is a perfect movie 00:56:57.700 --> 00:57:02.980 It's unfortunate that you have to say the first animated film. I know it's tough. It's tough, isn't it? Yeah, it's a hard life 00:57:03.140 --> 00:57:05.140 It's a hard life 00:57:07.380 --> 00:57:09.380 Anyway, the point is that 00:57:10.580 --> 00:57:12.580 Kathleen Kennedy needs to go 00:57:14.180 --> 00:57:16.180 Yeah, how is she still 00:57:18.020 --> 00:57:23.780 I have no idea dude. It's so strange. She's squandered like the world's most recognizable ip 00:57:23.940 --> 00:57:28.340 I genuinely think like that mentality is why disney's dying 00:57:28.580 --> 00:57:33.220 Like that should have been so the fact that the the new star wars series was allowed to be made 00:57:33.700 --> 00:57:37.940 Even sort of in the way that it was made is is 00:57:37.940 --> 00:57:43.860 Must be a I don't even know if it's fair to say micro but microcosm of why disney's dying in general 00:57:44.020 --> 00:57:50.020 And the fact that that is still allowed to continue is like, uh, yeah, you guys are just screwed 00:57:50.580 --> 00:57:53.780 Like that is I don't know if leadership is just asleep or what's going on 00:57:53.780 --> 00:57:58.500 But like who does she have pictures of and what animal are they fucking? 00:58:00.820 --> 00:58:05.780 That's what I need to know I 00:58:07.620 --> 00:58:10.100 Wish they could have heard the uncensored version of that 00:58:12.500 --> 00:58:17.220 I think that was probably funny anyways, but hearing that fully uncensored was great 00:58:20.420 --> 00:58:26.740 Oh man J. H. Tom says Mandalorian was great though. I only watched the first season 00:58:27.380 --> 00:58:31.220 It was great Relative yeah to what we'd been getting. Yeah 00:58:31.780 --> 00:58:35.460 I I completely agree. I enjoyed it. We were that desperate 00:58:35.620 --> 00:58:40.660 But a lot of watching it. I couldn't get the I couldn't get the brain worm out that was like 00:58:42.020 --> 00:58:45.380 If the other stuff was like as good as it could have been this would have been mediocre 00:58:45.540 --> 00:58:51.060 I couldn't I couldn't get that out of my head D. Hollinger says Kathleen Kennedy pushed for andor, which is apparently good 00:58:51.060 --> 00:58:56.980 I haven't watched I've heard very good things about and apparently the issues with rise of skywalker are known to be pushed by 00:58:57.060 --> 00:59:04.820 Bob Iger not Kathleen Kennedy Well, then oh my god, he's back too. What are they gonna do? She overlooked the 00:59:06.500 --> 00:59:10.580 The renewed trilogy thing. Yeah, that was that's enough 00:59:11.220 --> 00:59:15.700 Yeah, I can appreciate that. She's maybe I don't know done good things since then 00:59:17.220 --> 00:59:21.540 That should have never been allowed to happen in the first place who was responsible for solo story 00:59:22.260 --> 00:59:26.740 Because that was that was pretty bad um 00:59:26.740 --> 00:59:30.740 I have no idea Yeah 00:59:31.700 --> 00:59:35.300 All right, well anyway, um good luck netflix with your new 00:59:36.660 --> 00:59:40.660 uh acquisition. I hope that you um 00:59:41.540 --> 00:59:47.140 Are good to us consumers whose wallets you milk for profit. I was gonna say and they won't be 00:59:47.700 --> 00:59:50.740 I know which was like proven by the beginning of this topic 00:59:51.700 --> 00:59:57.860 And like yeah, no more casting. I gotta be honest with you. I I don't cast I used the native apps on 01:00:04.500 --> 01:00:06.500 That's the problem. Yeah, the timing 01:00:07.540 --> 01:00:10.580 The timing does look very convenient, doesn't it? Yeah 01:00:12.100 --> 01:00:14.740 Uh-huh one of our discussion questions we did not 01:00:15.460 --> 01:00:20.580 Talk about is what streaming service is worth paying for I don't pay for any of them 01:00:22.100 --> 01:00:26.500 Um, I'm I'm gonna you know what? YouTube premium 01:00:26.580 --> 01:00:29.060 Okay, fair enough. I think youtube premium is worth it. Is that a 01:00:30.180 --> 01:00:36.340 It's a streaming service you stream and it's a service. Yeah, and it includes all the music you can eat 01:00:37.060 --> 01:00:45.460 Yeah That part's pretty good Like I I don't think I okay, so I agree with you. I think youtube premium is sick. I've been subscribed to it for many many years 01:00:46.100 --> 01:00:51.540 We gain from saying this in a way because if you watch our stuff with youtube premium 01:00:51.540 --> 01:00:56.020 We get more money. Oh we gain from it directly to the people who are watching right now. Yes 01:00:57.140 --> 01:01:05.460 Unless they're on full plane lol But another quality streaming service, but yeah, hell. I mean, yeah, there you go. That's uh that that one worth 01:01:05.540 --> 01:01:10.740 It is very subjective for that one though. I mean, yes the worth is hey like there's the exclusives 01:01:10.900 --> 01:01:15.700 We really appreciate you guys. We've got exclusives. You get early access to deals a couple times a year 01:01:16.180 --> 01:01:21.300 Um, but you know that but I'm not we're not saying all of this because it's not really it's not really a streaming service 01:01:21.300 --> 01:01:26.820 It's more like a it's more like a patreon. It's more like an in-house patreon for a content creator that you like. It's not 01:01:27.940 --> 01:01:30.420 Because you you you don't subscribe to the service 01:01:31.860 --> 01:01:36.420 You give a monthly payment to individual creators on float please in that case sauce plus 01:01:36.980 --> 01:01:40.660 Uh, yeah, okay sauce plus subscribe to the service pretty cool service. There we go 01:01:41.060 --> 01:01:47.140 Uh, but anyways, all of that isn't for for personal benefit stuff. I I don't subscribe to 01:01:48.100 --> 01:01:52.500 Basically any of those platforms and the reason why I don't is because I don't like 01:01:53.140 --> 01:01:55.940 Not owning my stuff. Sure Floatplane 01:01:56.340 --> 01:02:00.740 Uh, if the creator Decides 01:02:00.740 --> 01:02:06.580 You can download the content. I'm gonna be honest with you. I have a netflix subscription and 01:02:07.620 --> 01:02:09.940 Maybe this won't be a popular take with some people 01:02:10.660 --> 01:02:14.740 I just shamelessly download any netflix shows and I put them on my plex 01:02:15.700 --> 01:02:21.380 Yeah, cool. I pay my premium subscription every month. They are not getting their like viewer tracking from me, which is 01:02:22.180 --> 01:02:30.260 part of the value for them I thought they're downloading like downloaded it into a like closed version of the is there. Oh, I don't use that 01:02:30.500 --> 01:02:38.180 Okay, got it. Yep. All right. Yeah So I just I shamelessly pirate the netflix shows that I give them money for 01:02:38.660 --> 01:02:42.420 So I just don't I don't care at that point and like, yeah 01:02:43.060 --> 01:02:49.220 I know that I'm only subscribing to a license to watch them while I'm paying the subscription, but um 01:02:50.100 --> 01:02:55.060 No, like that that's the point where I'm just like I'm good with it. Yeah 01:02:55.620 --> 01:03:00.980 Same for amazon. I'll download an amazon show without one moment's hesitation. I have a prime subscription 01:03:01.620 --> 01:03:06.500 Um, I'm not proud to have a prime subscription these days. Yeah, sure like honestly 01:03:07.220 --> 01:03:12.980 Um But sometimes it's it's very convenient. I do go out of my way 01:03:13.060 --> 01:03:17.300 I remember talking to you about this a while back before I buy something on amazon 01:03:17.860 --> 01:03:21.620 I will search and I'll try to find it elsewhere. Like I needed to buy some rollerblade wheels 01:03:21.860 --> 01:03:25.300 I got I got trapped this holiday season 80 dollars in shipping 01:03:26.100 --> 01:03:31.940 To buy rollerblade wheels, but the craziest part is to get quality wheels on amazon. It was like impossible anyway 01:03:32.340 --> 01:03:38.900 Yeah, so I did search both And I was just like, you know what? No, this is why I search other sites 01:03:39.380 --> 01:03:43.780 Because I want a quality product and because I wanted to support someone other than amazon 01:03:44.820 --> 01:03:51.460 That's the fact that I'm paying 80 dollars in shipping. Did it come from europe or something? No shipping's just really expensive for small businesses 01:03:51.620 --> 01:03:55.620 That's something that a lot of people don't realize anymore 01:03:56.020 --> 01:04:01.860 Because amazon completely changed people's perception of what shipping costs nuts. Yeah 01:04:02.580 --> 01:04:06.980 It is crazy. I I got I got trapped. I had to buy something off amazon recently 01:04:07.220 --> 01:04:12.580 I like I'm not trying to project you guys do whatever you want. I try to really like 01:04:13.220 --> 01:04:19.860 Basically never shop from amazon There was a christmas list thing and it included an item 01:04:20.580 --> 01:04:27.700 That is sold Literally only on amazon really you can't buy it directly from the company kindle. You can't buy it was a specific book 01:04:28.660 --> 01:04:32.820 You can't buy it directly from the publisher or something. You can't the no other bookstore had it 01:04:33.380 --> 01:04:36.900 It was wild rare. I tried to buy it from like indigo 01:04:37.220 --> 01:04:41.780 They listed it on their site, but it was zero in any store and zero online 01:04:42.260 --> 01:04:46.580 Huh, so it was like, okay Neat. I just I can't 01:04:46.980 --> 01:04:50.580 I asked like I called a couple local bookstores. Nobody had it 01:04:51.220 --> 01:04:55.860 I think it's just like not a super well-known book. What is it a good book? I have no idea 01:04:56.420 --> 01:05:00.100 Not for me. Right. Yeah. Yeah, not a single clue. Never heard of it before 01:05:01.220 --> 01:05:04.660 Hopefully It was asked for 01:05:05.380 --> 01:05:10.260 But yeah, so I I just amazon was the publisher. No, um, not quite 01:05:10.900 --> 01:05:14.020 But I yeah, I couldn't get anywhere else. So I was like, okay. Well 01:05:14.660 --> 01:05:22.500 That's right. Yeah He gave money to daddy bezos. I did he is now part of the solution to putting a penis rocket 01:05:23.380 --> 01:05:31.300 Into orbit Not much of the solution, but you're part of it. You're part of it one of us one of us just the tip 01:05:37.540 --> 01:05:39.700 Exactly I try I tried to like 01:05:40.660 --> 01:05:44.500 I don't know. I didn't want to make my little crusade against doing that 01:05:44.980 --> 01:05:48.180 Break the bonds of earth to to touch the tip of god 01:05:51.620 --> 01:05:53.620 There's that you know that like 01:05:55.140 --> 01:05:57.140 But they like reach past 01:05:58.180 --> 01:06:00.180 Give a little tickle 01:06:01.700 --> 01:06:04.180 You know humanity is truly lost 01:06:06.260 --> 01:06:12.180 Not only not only are we like limp arming and not really trying but instead we're reaching bad. Yeah 01:06:13.140 --> 01:06:19.300 We won't properly reach out to touch the the hand, but yeah, yeah wash it first. Oh, man 01:06:19.700 --> 01:06:21.700 But late at night 01:06:25.220 --> 01:06:29.140 No, but you seem to really love jesus 01:06:29.620 --> 01:06:37.060 You see like the I don't even remember who it is But the the guy like just partially holding his hand out like enables private browsing 01:06:40.820 --> 01:06:48.420 All right anyways, we're supposed to explain merch messages. 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We are live 01:07:28.340 --> 01:07:31.620 You can leave a merch message. It could look like whatever you want something like this 01:07:31.620 --> 01:07:39.460 You set a color you set whether you want to make your name appear You want it to be anonymous and then you go ahead and place your order for whatever it is that tickles your 01:07:40.580 --> 01:07:45.540 fancy Then it will go to producer Dan 01:07:46.500 --> 01:07:52.820 Who is oh who is joined today? Uh, it'll go to producer. Oh, sorry. I missed you there. Go ahead. Oh, no, I got you again 01:07:54.500 --> 01:08:01.780 There we go It'll go to producer Dan who will pop it up down here or reply to it or who will curate it 01:08:02.180 --> 01:08:06.340 For me and luke to respond to we're gonna show you what that looks like in a second 01:08:06.340 --> 01:08:10.340 But first let's talk about something you might want to pick up with your merch message 01:08:10.500 --> 01:08:14.980 We just launched our cats versus gamers collection and they are way too fun 01:08:15.620 --> 01:08:19.380 Our new underwear prints are here with the pixel 01:08:20.660 --> 01:08:28.500 Perfect set featuring a pixel perfect print a solid turquoise and a cat paws pattern 01:08:29.060 --> 01:08:35.940 Can you get me a close-up on that? Yeah Oh, I need don't you look at all the little kitties. Can you maybe go closer luke? Maybe give it the old zoom 01:08:36.900 --> 01:08:40.340 They got the paw prints and there's little kitties on computers. They're so cute 01:08:42.500 --> 01:08:49.860 We also have the game on set which features a uh, but hold on uh a game on print 01:08:51.220 --> 01:08:57.300 A solid black and a throwback arcade design if you haven't tried our underwear yet 01:08:57.700 --> 01:09:05.620 They are super comfy. Thanks to a modell rayon blend that is soft silky breathable and stretch enough for all day 01:09:05.700 --> 01:09:08.660 Wear thank goodness because if you only wore your underwear for part of the day 01:09:09.300 --> 01:09:13.540 You're too much of a chad Just too much 01:09:13.540 --> 01:09:19.940 You might as well just go commando full-time It's that much of a concern that you just don't need your underwear all day. Then why even bother 01:09:20.580 --> 01:09:24.180 But that's not all we're also launching matching onesies 01:09:25.140 --> 01:09:29.060 I'm going back to your laptop. Yep How cute are those? 01:09:29.060 --> 01:09:35.220 They're made with a modell cotton fabric that feels like having a fully legitimate reason to stay in your pajamas 01:09:35.460 --> 01:09:42.100 All day you can shop the cats gamers collection at LMG.gg slash cat gamer 01:09:43.540 --> 01:09:45.540 Uh, oh, whoa, what? 01:09:46.980 --> 01:09:49.780 Oh, we've got another big LTT Store announcement 01:09:50.980 --> 01:09:58.340 While the site's been blood buzzing with black friday cyber monday and holiday loot drop shoppers our mailbox has been buzzing too 01:09:59.140 --> 01:10:03.380 We've been receiving your holiday loot drop mail-in entries and some of them are 01:10:04.340 --> 01:10:06.340 Interesting 01:10:08.740 --> 01:10:12.900 I've seen this it says do not show the address which did that totally makes sense 01:10:13.620 --> 01:10:17.140 um I suggested we show this on the show 01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:20.420 Hold on. I just gotta 01:10:21.620 --> 01:10:24.820 Are you able to bring that up Dan? Do you have the picture? 01:10:24.820 --> 01:10:26.820 Oh 01:10:33.940 --> 01:10:38.500 Yeah, uh Wow 01:10:38.500 --> 01:10:42.420 That is something 01:10:42.420 --> 01:10:44.420 um 01:10:47.140 --> 01:10:49.780 So that was that was one of the contest entries 01:10:50.180 --> 01:10:55.140 Which you now own I think 01:10:57.460 --> 01:10:59.780 I think that's how that works. Oh joy 01:11:06.180 --> 01:11:11.460 Oh my goodness That's right up there with weirdest things I've seen today 01:11:12.180 --> 01:11:15.220 Today, yeah, I was gonna say all time. It's honestly 01:11:15.460 --> 01:11:23.060 Yeah, no, it's not the way I mean it's not most of all I've sent you worse things in the last week 01:11:24.980 --> 01:11:28.580 Yeah, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it took me a second, but definitely 01:11:29.860 --> 01:11:34.100 Wow I'm almost afraid to open this other one 01:11:35.460 --> 01:11:39.620 This wait this one. I don't think has been open. Oh, oh, hold on 01:11:40.660 --> 01:11:44.660 Uh, oh, yeah, this is just this is just the envelope for that. Okay 01:11:46.100 --> 01:11:54.900 um Anyway, so for context, there was a way to enter the holiday loot drop with no purchase necessary 01:11:55.220 --> 01:11:58.580 That's a legal requirement in canada. See you later. Um 01:12:00.180 --> 01:12:04.500 Uh, and so, uh, that was something that was sent to us. Okay 01:12:05.780 --> 01:12:13.540 Wow um Anyway, uh speaking of loot drops and deals. We're doing a few bonus deals before the year ends 01:12:14.100 --> 01:12:21.140 Oh, cool. Uh, is this is this like on is there somewhere you can go? I'm checking LMG.gg slash bundle up so you can go there 01:12:22.740 --> 01:12:32.660 For our us customers From now until december 17th when you buy a commuter backpack, you'll get a free elgato stream deck mark 2 01:12:33.140 --> 01:12:40.740 or senheiser 5 60 s headphones your choice. That's 150 plus of savings 01:12:40.900 --> 01:12:48.020 Also, if you buy an LTT backpack, you'll get a steel series apex pro 10 keyless keyboard for free. That's 179 01:12:49.540 --> 01:12:56.180 dollars of savings There are a few more great bundles that you guys can check out here. We've got a CPU fidget spinner plus 01:12:56.820 --> 01:13:00.740 Corsair Thunderbolt 3 dock for $99.99. All right 01:13:01.780 --> 01:13:06.420 mcm starter solution plus an m75 air ultra light wireless gaming mouse for 80 bucks 01:13:07.140 --> 01:13:10.900 We've got the wan backpack with steel series arctis nova forex bundle 01:13:11.460 --> 01:13:15.060 For 249, which is basically getting those headphones for free 01:13:15.540 --> 01:13:21.860 um global customers Bad news y'all really took advantage of our free shipping 01:13:22.260 --> 01:13:30.340 So we don't really have any bundles But what we do have is a bit more stock of our retro monitor pet cave. So we're running that for just $29.99 01:13:31.220 --> 01:13:40.820 That is $40 of savings We also have our mcm essentials kit. So our magnetic cable management essentials kit for $80, which is $100 off 01:13:40.900 --> 01:13:49.220 This is a great time to get into mcm And we also have the razor death adder essential in white for 20 bucks. That is over 50 off 01:13:49.300 --> 01:13:54.660 So there's lots of value. Uh, do you want to bring those up? I've got a couple. There isn't a bundle page for it 01:13:55.060 --> 01:14:00.900 Um, but hold on. Hold on. It's not a free elgato streamdecker senheiser headphone for the us site. It's a bundle price 01:14:01.620 --> 01:14:06.100 Additional $50 only for the item. That's that's that's a thing. So, okay. Thanks arty 01:14:06.660 --> 01:14:11.780 Cool. Good chat. Uh, lots of value packed in there. I hope you snag something cool for you or your friends and family 01:14:11.860 --> 01:14:18.980 So hold on. Oh, sorry. There you go. It's just it's not a collection. Wow. We're really just selling just a mouse for 20 bucks 01:14:19.140 --> 01:14:22.580 Wow, I mean It's good price. What do you want? Wow 01:14:23.140 --> 01:14:26.100 Cool. We're really good chat. All right. Yep 01:14:27.060 --> 01:14:33.380 Uh, well, we had them for a bundle at some point, I think. Okay, uh, but right now we have mice right so 01:14:34.260 --> 01:14:37.220 Neat. So kitties go get the mice 01:14:38.340 --> 01:14:43.460 Because we're doing the cats gamers. He's he's calling you all cats. Well, I mean, they're cool cats. Oh, wow 01:14:44.260 --> 01:14:50.740 they're They're so cool. They're five times cool. They're cat five. I you know what? It doesn't matter 01:14:52.980 --> 01:14:54.980 We also hate mondays. Yeah 01:14:56.100 --> 01:15:00.260 It is monday, right? I'm pretty sure it's monday. It's been monday for a decade 01:15:01.460 --> 01:15:06.100 It's been monday for a decade You're just describing your 30s, Dan 01:15:06.420 --> 01:15:11.140 Oh, no How did you know I was 64? 01:15:12.020 --> 01:15:15.140 Oh, no. All right. Do you want a couple merge messages? 01:15:15.700 --> 01:15:20.740 Uh, I do. I do. Hit me with a couple merge messages. Okay. Linus, luke or Dan 01:15:20.980 --> 01:15:27.860 What is the benefit of using the coarse air Thunderbolt 3 dock over a USB-C hub that has the same ports? 01:15:29.540 --> 01:15:36.740 Not much Um, actually hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Um, Thunderbolt can do some special stuff. It is a little different. Yeah 01:15:36.740 --> 01:15:41.060 Yeah, so Thunderbolt can daisy chain, which is pretty cool. Um, Thunderbolt 01:15:41.620 --> 01:15:48.740 Um, can have more bandwidth available to it. Um, which is also pretty cool. Um 01:15:49.060 --> 01:15:54.020 I'm not a hundred percent sure which is that a Thunderbolt 3 dock? 01:15:55.780 --> 01:16:00.900 I think it's Thunderbolt 3. So I don't know if it supports the the like the the boosted 01:16:03.780 --> 01:16:08.180 Downstream upstream, whichever stream is out of the computer 01:16:08.900 --> 01:16:15.780 To run more monitors, but that is a benefit of Thunderbolt. Uh, Thunderbolt is also connected to PCIe 01:16:16.260 --> 01:16:22.740 So you can connect devices that require Thunderbolt rather than ones that run through just a usb controller 01:16:22.820 --> 01:16:33.780 So running things like e gpus for instance now It is worth noting that that's not super relevant for hub use because you wouldn't want to run an e GPU at the end of a Thunderbolt 01:16:34.020 --> 01:16:38.740 daisy chain, uh, because it's not going to get the full bandwidth. You're not going to get the full benefit, but 01:16:39.620 --> 01:16:50.740 Thunderbolt and usb 4 Are not quite the same thing as just a USB-C usb 3 ports. They they do have some special functionality 01:16:51.700 --> 01:16:55.940 Yeah, it is nicer. I don't know if you'll end up using the benefits, but I mean if you're buying 01:16:56.500 --> 01:16:59.220 Holy use of dock is worth a lot of money 01:17:00.340 --> 01:17:02.340 My goodness. What the heck? 01:17:03.620 --> 01:17:11.380 Of course, their site it's Yeah, but that's let's be real out of stock. So is that just like that's pricing that was just never updated after this was 01:17:11.620 --> 01:17:15.460 EOL'd probably it was EOL'd. Okay. Yeah, so they were trying to flip the rest of stock 01:17:15.460 --> 01:17:19.620 So to be clear it's worth somewhere in between zero dollars and that much 01:17:19.700 --> 01:17:24.180 It's just a lot for a dock, but it's a nice Thunderbolt. I'm not saying like, oh my god. You're getting a crazy deal 01:17:24.260 --> 01:17:26.260 I'm just saying it's a lot for a dock 01:17:27.380 --> 01:17:32.100 Bad docks. I don't know if this dock is necessarily good or not, but bad docks can be really annoying 01:17:32.260 --> 01:17:35.460 I'll say that much. Yep Yeah, this one this one seems fine 01:17:35.460 --> 01:17:42.340 We've actually bundled this dock before and we've had perfectly good feedback on it's a Cromulant Thunderbolt dock. Nice 01:17:44.500 --> 01:17:50.980 Right, well, that's what you got. U-Trolls says is there no bundles for the global site. So this is the whole thing 01:17:51.300 --> 01:18:00.500 You know how our Certain customers in certain regions have asked us many times very calmly and quietly 01:18:00.900 --> 01:18:06.340 Um, why do you not have a distribution center in our region to lower our shipping costs? 01:18:06.980 --> 01:18:13.940 It's because there is a lot of cost and a lot of overhead involved in having multiple distribution centers and a lot of just 01:18:14.660 --> 01:18:19.620 administrative burden and this is one of the things that I'm talking about because 01:18:20.580 --> 01:18:26.980 absolutely nailing your stock distribution when you order in is practically impossible 01:18:27.460 --> 01:18:31.940 That thing that he just said and you guys had a better deal 01:18:32.660 --> 01:18:37.380 realistically during the black friday sales where it was a hundred dollar threshold 01:18:37.460 --> 01:18:40.820 But it was a hundred dollar threshold for the canadian site or the american site 01:18:41.060 --> 01:18:46.020 Meaning the american site's threshold for free shipping was effectively a hundred u.s. Dollars 01:18:46.340 --> 01:18:52.020 Yeah, this is a hundred canadian dollars, which is very different. So what we discovered was that 01:18:52.660 --> 01:18:59.060 um Global sales go burr when there's free shipping when there's free shipping at such a low threshold 01:18:59.060 --> 01:19:01.700 I don't know that we will do a low threshold like that again 01:19:02.420 --> 01:19:06.580 Because the global site vastly outperformed our 01:19:07.220 --> 01:19:17.380 Um our expectations For the mix compared to the u.s. Site. I think it's also a factor that the u.s. Market is a little bit 01:19:18.260 --> 01:19:20.740 Um challenging right now 01:19:21.460 --> 01:19:28.340 I've heard I've heard scuttle, but that it was a relatively slow black friday period in the u.s. This year 01:19:29.220 --> 01:19:34.500 Which totally makes sense given that I've heard that there was less sales 01:19:35.460 --> 01:19:40.980 volume But technically more sales dollars our margin was higher. Yes 01:19:41.700 --> 01:19:46.420 I can it sounds like margins are up Overall sales volume is down 01:19:46.420 --> 01:19:52.740 It's almost like all of these things that we've been talking about for the last little while are just kind of true 01:19:53.700 --> 01:19:56.200 Where it's a it's a small slice 01:19:56.820 --> 01:20:00.020 Of the american consumer and that small slice 01:20:00.820 --> 01:20:08.020 Isn't going to care as much about the like, you know Stampede over each other and have deaths trying to get into best buy type of sales 01:20:08.180 --> 01:20:13.220 They're just going to buy luxury stuff that they want. Yes at and they might have just been waiting 01:20:13.460 --> 01:20:20.180 I don't know a good deal is cool But like yeah, it's not the same. We don't have the same level of black fridays that we used to have it's just 01:20:21.140 --> 01:20:28.100 It's kind of a fact. Oh speaking of there was our cool little piece of news that i'm not sure if it yeah 01:20:28.660 --> 01:20:31.940 Oh, oh, this is so sick um 01:20:31.940 --> 01:20:38.980 New york introduces a new algorithmic pricing act. We never did any merge messages Dan. What you did one 01:20:39.140 --> 01:20:45.700 We did one. Did we oh, okay cool Uh, all right, sure. Let's let's move on. We'll do more merge messages. We'll do more later 01:20:46.340 --> 01:20:50.740 New york attorney general leticia james has issued a statewide consumer alert 01:20:51.220 --> 01:20:56.340 Following the rollout of the algorithmic pricing disclosure act, which is now in effect 01:20:56.820 --> 01:21:04.340 The law requires most businesses using algorithmic or surveillance pricing to clearly disclose when a price is being set 01:21:04.740 --> 01:21:11.940 using a customer's personal data Companies that fail to do so can face penalties of one thousand dollars 01:21:12.660 --> 01:21:14.660 per violation awesome 01:21:15.860 --> 01:21:20.420 This is awesome very cool 01:21:20.500 --> 01:21:24.580 Based even yes algorithmic pricing systems if you're not familiar with them 01:21:25.060 --> 01:21:27.700 Adjust prices based on factors like location 01:21:28.100 --> 01:21:36.660 Income browsing behavior and past purchases meaning that two customers may be charged different amounts for exactly the same product 01:21:37.460 --> 01:21:41.620 The attorney general is urging new yorkers to compare prices across devices 01:21:41.940 --> 01:21:47.700 Accounts and locations. Hey now's a perfect time to shout out our vpn partner p.i.a 01:21:47.940 --> 01:21:53.380 You'll find a link to them down below And file complaints if disclosures are missing 01:21:54.100 --> 01:21:57.460 Affected businesses are now required to display the statement 01:21:58.020 --> 01:22:01.700 This price was set by an algorithm using your personal data 01:22:02.980 --> 01:22:05.480 This is a step in the right direction 01:22:07.300 --> 01:22:11.060 Or hear me out What if we just 01:22:11.060 --> 01:22:16.180 Don't have algorithmic pricing What could we make our way could we make our way there? 01:22:16.740 --> 01:22:25.860 would Geographically set pricing count as that because are they pulling in your location? Does that count as that? 01:22:27.220 --> 01:22:34.580 Because that has often been praised Yeah, well hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on. Let's back up. Let's back up a second here. There's always 01:22:35.300 --> 01:22:42.100 There's always unintended consequences and the last thing that I want is for someone from Turkmenistan 01:22:42.660 --> 01:22:48.340 To all of a sudden not be able to afford any of the services they use because they have to like pay in us dollars or whatever 01:22:48.420 --> 01:22:50.420 That's not that is not what I want 01:22:51.540 --> 01:22:55.700 Um, okay, and I don't think it's quite as simple as just setting 01:22:56.660 --> 01:23:01.140 You know having a different domain that is just like cheaper because then everyone will buy it 01:23:01.140 --> 01:23:03.780 Just use it. So you'd need to grab some amount of 01:23:04.420 --> 01:23:11.780 That's okay. Okay. Okay, but but okay, but it's clear that there's elements of algorithmic pricing that they just shouldn't be using 01:23:11.780 --> 01:23:18.820 Why do you need my income? Yeah, and they do that. Yeah, you don't need that. Yeah to set a price the price should be the price 01:23:21.380 --> 01:23:25.620 Hmm Man 01:23:26.420 --> 01:23:32.740 We'll see we'll see how it goes. I in general seems like a cool idea. Yeah, I mean at least 01:23:33.460 --> 01:23:36.580 If nothing else this is this is a start 01:23:37.300 --> 01:23:45.460 This is awareness. Yeah raising awareness for how your data is being used. I'm just I'm just worried that if it ends up on 01:23:45.780 --> 01:23:51.300 Literally everything or not quite okay relax not quite literally everything but close to everything 01:23:51.700 --> 01:23:54.180 um, I'm a little bit worried that 01:23:55.140 --> 01:24:01.780 People will just become numb to it because it's on everything because it also includes geos. Yes 01:24:02.740 --> 01:24:08.180 I'm worried it's I would like this to really go after things like where it's taking in your 01:24:08.820 --> 01:24:11.620 Your income or or or how frantic you might be 01:24:12.340 --> 01:24:19.780 For trying to book a flight or knowing Because of email scraping or some junk like that that there's a or or you know data sharing 01:24:20.180 --> 01:24:24.500 That there's a funeral that you have to go to so you're probably not going to miss that flight so they can upcharge you 01:24:24.500 --> 01:24:28.500 Whatever this is a thing that they do um 01:24:28.820 --> 01:24:34.020 I would like it to be able to focus on stuff like that. I would like the threshold to be a little bit up 01:24:36.180 --> 01:24:40.980 Just so that we don't become desensitized like as you said we a lot of people have with cookies 01:24:40.980 --> 01:24:45.860 The wudow of what and for plain chat says how the f can they even know about my income? 01:24:46.420 --> 01:24:53.940 Well, that's why I think this is So based because all of a sudden it's going to make you ask that and there's 01:24:54.580 --> 01:25:03.140 So many ways like I don't know how careful you are about the way that you post online. Maybe maybe you're super careful 01:25:03.540 --> 01:25:10.100 But something as simple credit card company might sell your data uploading. Oh, okay that too, but okay, let's 01:25:12.500 --> 01:25:16.100 And your bank and your insurance company and everything else 01:25:17.060 --> 01:25:21.780 I mean Yeah, a credit score would be one that company that you 01:25:22.340 --> 01:25:27.060 Used to send out rsvp's for your wedding might sell that data 01:25:27.460 --> 01:25:30.980 So people can tell these sites can tell if you're going to a wedding or not 01:25:31.300 --> 01:25:35.060 Yeah, um, there's like that type of stuff all over the place 01:25:37.940 --> 01:25:41.460 Yeah, your data has value you you all know that your data has value 01:25:41.540 --> 01:25:45.060 But this is one of the ways that your data has and we can even quantify it 01:25:45.380 --> 01:25:53.380 We we can actually quantify how much value your data has by just looking at products that have an ad supported version 01:25:53.780 --> 01:25:58.420 And then have a no you just pay for this version or like a data supported version rather 01:25:58.980 --> 01:26:02.580 So like facebook for instance has in the in the eu 01:26:03.060 --> 01:26:09.380 They have paid versions of their accounts. So you you can you can quantify like exactly how much the average person's 01:26:09.780 --> 01:26:13.620 Data is worth. I mean we saw with the with them. Was it the meta quest two? 01:26:14.180 --> 01:26:17.380 Or the one was the first one that had a non 01:26:18.180 --> 01:26:22.260 Facebook account version that was like double the price or whatever it worked out to 01:26:22.740 --> 01:26:30.100 Like the the ad subsidy that goes into products is more than you would more than most people would think 01:26:30.260 --> 01:26:33.940 Yeah, I think I mean there's there's that classic story people in full planchetta pointed out 01:26:33.940 --> 01:26:38.100 But we've talked about this on wansha before target figured out that a girl was pregnant before 01:26:38.660 --> 01:26:41.300 Like a high school age girl was pregnant before her dad did 01:26:43.140 --> 01:26:46.340 Really yeah, because of like shopping habits and credit card spending and stuff 01:26:47.300 --> 01:26:53.220 I mean, was it as simple as like buying pregnancy tests or like don't well that doesn't say that you're pregnant 01:26:54.260 --> 01:26:57.620 Right. I mean if you bought like five it might yes 01:26:58.740 --> 01:27:03.140 Um, but yeah, I'm not sure exactly what it was but something along those lines 01:27:04.820 --> 01:27:11.700 Funky shark 88 says and yet companies floated by just fine without the need to sell supplements and vitamins apparently in decades gone by 01:27:12.580 --> 01:27:15.620 um Yeah 01:27:16.180 --> 01:27:18.420 Yeah, yeah, they did. I mean I um 01:27:19.220 --> 01:27:24.420 Makes I I remembered it being before she knew herself as well But I just looked it up and everything says it was her dad 01:27:24.500 --> 01:27:29.780 So I think we're I think we're just remembering correctly Mandela affecting ourselves here. I think so. Yeah 01:27:30.340 --> 01:27:37.540 Yeah, I don't know LTT Store manages to exist just fine without selling company or company without selling customer data 01:27:38.340 --> 01:27:40.340 um, I I don't really 01:27:41.540 --> 01:27:44.660 I don't really see why this has to be done either 01:27:45.220 --> 01:27:55.380 There are industries that I do understand why they've moved that way. Um, I don't like it. I hate it in fact 01:27:55.860 --> 01:27:58.660 um, the airline industry is one for instance that 01:28:00.340 --> 01:28:07.060 has Been under a lot of self-imposed pressure 01:28:07.700 --> 01:28:12.820 to to grow in volume and therefore has made a lot of 01:28:14.020 --> 01:28:17.380 questionable decisions to to maintain profits 01:28:18.180 --> 01:28:23.140 um Like I don't know it's I was talking to Yvonne about this the other day 01:28:23.700 --> 01:28:28.740 Like when we were kids Both of us like our family is growing up. We had like 01:28:29.460 --> 01:28:35.380 Two vacations our entire childhoods that were like fly somewhere three. I think I think I was I was at three 01:28:36.420 --> 01:28:41.780 and like I don't know talking to other parents at the school man. There's families that like 01:28:42.500 --> 01:28:48.420 Go somewhere every year early. Yeah, like they fly somewhere every year. Yeah, and yeah, that wasn't us either 01:28:48.660 --> 01:28:53.780 Yeah, I that like wasn't that I don't think that was a thing when we were kids 01:28:54.580 --> 01:29:00.420 Yeah, I don't think so and so in order to and so coming back to what I was saying about how when you build the capacity 01:29:00.740 --> 01:29:06.500 You like kind of have to use it um So if the if the value of the seat goes down 01:29:06.820 --> 01:29:10.660 Then you have to squeeze other places in order to maintain your profit 01:29:10.660 --> 01:29:17.300 I think they've done to themselves this race to zero dude. I was at the this is only tangentially related 01:29:17.300 --> 01:29:19.860 But I was at the airport uh lax 01:29:20.500 --> 01:29:23.860 And my gate so from from security 01:29:24.340 --> 01:29:31.380 All the way through to the end of the walkable area. I checked every single store that sold 01:29:32.580 --> 01:29:37.540 bottles of water Every single one of them only had the really expensive 01:29:38.260 --> 01:29:46.180 Like fancy like path or whatever like the the metal or fiji. No not even what really they only had metal bottles 01:29:46.900 --> 01:29:51.620 There literally wasn't a single like cheaper plastic bottle thing and these are like 01:29:52.500 --> 01:29:57.540 Really expensive like more expensive than all of the other drinks there bottles of water 01:29:57.780 --> 01:30:01.540 And it was every single store in the entire 01:30:02.100 --> 01:30:05.700 Whatever you want to wing or whatever it's called um 01:30:05.700 --> 01:30:10.660 It was brutal It was really brutal. I'm trying to find a picture right now water you just screwed 01:30:10.740 --> 01:30:14.100 I took a picture of a sandwich that I refused to buy 01:30:14.740 --> 01:30:19.140 on a recent trip because I was just So I was like 01:30:19.140 --> 01:30:27.540 Like offended by the price legitimately So upset by the price of it that on my way out of the store. I like made a comment to another customer just 01:30:28.260 --> 01:30:31.060 Just because I needed someone to talk to about how 01:30:32.260 --> 01:30:36.660 ludicrous This price was I I don't know if I'm going to be able to find it 01:30:37.380 --> 01:30:43.140 but uh I was just like I would rather look and I'm not going to pretend 01:30:43.620 --> 01:30:49.860 Let's make this abundantly clear. I'm not going to pretend that I couldn't afford to buy it. I could 01:30:50.900 --> 01:30:55.620 But I wouldn't people in full plan chat are talking about how there was a 01:30:56.580 --> 01:31:03.380 Uh, here it is. There's a dude who bought something in cash at walmart and he got an email later on asking to review it 01:31:05.700 --> 01:31:08.900 Because he used like biometric camera data stuff. Oh my god. Yeah 01:31:10.180 --> 01:31:12.180 Shoot, did I not? 01:31:13.540 --> 01:31:18.100 I didn't there's a class action lawsuit from 2022 of walmart, uh 01:31:19.060 --> 01:31:21.460 Collecting storing and using customer biometric data 01:31:24.100 --> 01:31:30.580 Dang Dan i'm gonna send this to you. It wasn't a sandwich. I uh, I misremembered it and unfortunately 01:31:30.740 --> 01:31:36.420 I didn't write down the price. What I do know was that it was over 10 us dollars 01:31:37.060 --> 01:31:44.340 um Yeah, so someone in full plan chat said now that walmart cash transaction is bs. Yeah, I can't find like real facts on it 01:31:44.420 --> 01:31:49.140 I just found like someone's like selfie video. I don't know. Okay, Dan throw this up doesn't necessarily mean much 01:31:49.300 --> 01:31:54.980 So by the time I converted to canadian, I was basically going to be like eating quarters essentially 01:31:55.060 --> 01:31:57.380 So what do you guys what it came out to a carrot? 01:31:58.100 --> 01:32:02.660 Yeah, you've got some carrot slices. Yeah some cucumber a little bit of ranch dressing 01:32:03.060 --> 01:32:05.700 So this was at c-tech, uh, seattle airport 01:32:06.340 --> 01:32:11.940 And I just I just I wanted some I wanted like some vegetables because when you travel 01:32:12.020 --> 01:32:17.380 I don't know what it is, but I just I have a hard time finding like no, I absolutely agree because you're always eating out 01:32:17.860 --> 01:32:25.300 And like when I was at defcon I tried to stop at a little corner store to get some a little like fruit and vegetables little thing because I was like 01:32:25.460 --> 01:32:32.100 Oh my god, it's just garbage everywhere. Basically. Yeah, and the cashier warned me. He was like you probably don't want to buy that 01:32:32.980 --> 01:32:39.220 I was like why and he's like Uh, like because there's no pricing on really anything. He's like, I don't remember what it was, but it was something like 01:32:40.020 --> 01:32:43.940 I was actually somewhat stunned at how I don't remember how much it was. I wish it did 01:32:44.580 --> 01:32:48.500 But he I was I like banked him and put it back and was like, yeah, I mean 01:32:48.980 --> 01:32:56.020 Yeah, that is too much. I refused to buy it. It's just like I I'm not gonna like I've I've never really been able to 01:32:56.820 --> 01:33:02.580 Get get over the like How much because I I don't know. I don't know. I just have a busy brain 01:33:03.220 --> 01:33:05.780 And so I'm always doing the math of like 01:33:06.420 --> 01:33:10.420 How much per when I'm when I'm doing something sure so like paintball 01:33:10.900 --> 01:33:15.940 I I really I really struggled when I played at like the commercial fields 01:33:16.580 --> 01:33:20.340 Because I'd be like nickel 01:33:20.340 --> 01:33:23.300 nickel nickel 01:33:23.620 --> 01:33:31.220 Quarter Dollar dollar. Yeah, you know, I missed all of those it cost me a dollar to do nothing 01:33:31.700 --> 01:33:37.780 Yeah, like I just cost me a dollar to give my position away. Yeah, right exactly. What what a terrible value 01:33:40.820 --> 01:33:46.020 And so I I don't I have to get mad at the other people because it like it cost me three dollars to cover you 01:33:46.020 --> 01:33:49.780 And you just ran out and open got shot. Yeah way to go. Yeah 01:33:50.260 --> 01:33:54.820 I mean, I wasn't that toxic about it But it's just it's something that's in the back of my mind is distracting 01:33:54.980 --> 01:34:00.020 Whereas when I when I just play like woods ball like outlaw ball, then it's like whatever, right? 01:34:00.020 --> 01:34:05.220 You just you bring an entire case of paint and you're down to like, you know a penny or two 01:34:05.620 --> 01:34:11.540 For for each round easier to ignore. Yeah, it's easier to not have to think about I just don't want to have to think about it 01:34:11.540 --> 01:34:15.860 You know, I want to enjoy the game and I can't enjoy that veggie platter 01:34:16.500 --> 01:34:23.780 When I'm going how much was it sorry? Quarter, you know, I it was it was like nine or ten us dollars or something like that 01:34:23.780 --> 01:34:26.100 It was like 15 bucks canadian by the time 01:34:26.980 --> 01:34:30.100 I converted it because I just it's just offensive 01:34:30.580 --> 01:34:34.660 Yeah, just or 14 or 13 or something like that just just offensive 01:34:35.060 --> 01:34:39.540 Um, jhcom asks how about fireworks? honestly 01:34:39.540 --> 01:34:43.380 Exactly the same thing. I love 01:34:43.380 --> 01:34:46.500 fireworks they're so cool 01:34:46.500 --> 01:34:50.900 and we In my children's lifetime 01:34:51.140 --> 01:34:54.100 They have had a home fireworks display 01:34:54.740 --> 01:34:58.820 A modest one very small one time 01:34:58.820 --> 01:35:03.220 so that They can remember that we did fireworks one time 01:35:04.340 --> 01:35:07.380 It's also like a major pain in the butt because of all the regulations around 01:35:08.900 --> 01:35:11.860 And also the cost so it's a pain in the butt and it's expensive 01:35:12.260 --> 01:35:17.700 We did it one time and hopefully they remember it because I don't think we're going to do it again 01:35:18.020 --> 01:35:24.820 because it was like $200 and we burned through all of it and like I don't know 15 minutes or something like that 01:35:24.820 --> 01:35:29.140 It was like the the lowest the lowest value per hour 01:35:29.940 --> 01:35:34.500 Thing that we probably did that year or the highest value per hour thing we did that year 01:35:35.140 --> 01:35:40.260 It's rough. There's a like kind of block party thing that happens for halloween somewhere that I know 01:35:40.740 --> 01:35:45.140 And they're in like it's not actually a cul-de-sac, but it's a little like kind of loop thing 01:35:45.540 --> 01:35:48.660 um And they fire off fireworks 01:35:48.660 --> 01:35:52.900 like basically all night like they start at like I don't know 01:35:53.700 --> 01:35:59.540 probably Six or seven and they go until probably at least 11 and it's not 01:36:01.700 --> 01:36:07.860 It's not extremely high rate, but it is constant and I have thought before of like dang 01:36:07.940 --> 01:36:11.140 I think there's probably a few people contributing to this but dang 01:36:11.380 --> 01:36:17.780 Like you said 15 minutes is not and you're literally burning money and exploding it 01:36:19.620 --> 01:36:21.620 Thank you for that 01:36:23.060 --> 01:36:28.580 Did we did we start a topic what are we I don't know I was going to ask well, I think uh 01:36:29.380 --> 01:36:33.700 I think that was algorithmic price. You know what else has exploded 01:36:34.260 --> 01:36:40.660 Is Intel's GPU market share? Oh, let's go according to tech spot and john petty research 01:36:41.220 --> 01:36:49.780 q3 saw both AMD and Intel expand their shares of the discreet GPU market with AMD increasing to 01:36:50.340 --> 01:36:52.340 seven percent 01:36:54.020 --> 01:36:59.140 And Intel reaching a milestone one percent 01:37:02.340 --> 01:37:08.900 Jan's getting it on the action It might be rounded up. It might be like point six. Listen, I don't know 01:37:09.540 --> 01:37:14.740 But not being zero is cool because we need competition 01:37:15.380 --> 01:37:20.820 It might not be a card for you now, but it might be in the future and that's the cool part NVIDIA. Meanwhile has 01:37:21.300 --> 01:37:26.260 Suffered a drop in their market share to 92 percent 01:37:26.500 --> 01:37:32.340 Oh, no. Oh, no poor NVIDIA. Whatever however will jensen afford his leather jackets now 01:37:32.420 --> 01:37:36.660 He probably doesn't even want that 92. He probably just feels obligated at this point 01:37:37.620 --> 01:37:42.340 Well, everyone expects this of me. Yeah, I saw I saw an interview of him recently that he's like 01:37:42.340 --> 01:37:47.460 Yeah, I work seven days a week because I fear bankruptcy. I mean if I was if I was at the 01:37:48.340 --> 01:37:56.100 the sort of Arrow tip of a bubble headed towards the popping of a bubble. I'd probably be worried about that too 01:37:56.180 --> 01:37:59.380 But I don't think bankruptcy is ever going to be a concern. Mr. Huang 01:37:59.620 --> 01:38:04.420 Um I think that it's more just like not being you know 01:38:04.580 --> 01:38:08.900 One of the like handful of richest people in the world is is uh at stake here 01:38:09.300 --> 01:38:15.380 Yeah, any who data center gp board sales are up an average of 145.5 percent compared to q2 01:38:15.540 --> 01:38:24.980 So so those are doing fine Just fine and NVIDIA's market share in that space might be even higher. Uh, I remember chatting with the guys 01:38:25.620 --> 01:38:34.120 At sfu and they wouldn't confirm this. I'm not going to put any words in their mouths. Okay, but my speculation 01:38:36.420 --> 01:38:41.780 They had one machine With AMD instinct in it one 01:38:42.980 --> 01:38:47.940 And my speculation as to why they had that one machine because at that point you might think 01:38:49.140 --> 01:38:52.660 Why bother right? Yeah, my speculation was 01:38:53.620 --> 01:38:59.700 So that you can point at that one That in the background you're kind of beavering away seeing if you can do stuff on 01:39:00.180 --> 01:39:06.500 And so you can make a little bit of progress on that so that whenever it's time to buy the real GPU's you actually want 01:39:07.060 --> 01:39:12.100 You can point at that and go okay, but we could also run it on this so make sure that your price is competitive with this 01:39:13.300 --> 01:39:16.900 That's as far as I can tell the only reason they even have it 01:39:17.780 --> 01:39:21.540 Because they're doing all the real work as far as I can tell they wouldn't confirm this 01:39:22.660 --> 01:39:30.980 On NVIDIA Dang, but hey this ties in nicely to our dam is winning somewhere to our next topic 01:39:31.060 --> 01:39:36.580 Which is can you buy an Intel arc b580 for ms rp? 01:39:37.780 --> 01:39:45.620 The answer is Yes, you can even get an Intel holiday bundle with purchase limited offer. What is the Intel holiday bundle? 01:39:45.700 --> 01:39:53.140 Let's find out. I don't know Is it the same as last time? Where is it? What's the what's the holiday bundle? You just click on it you butts 01:39:53.300 --> 01:39:59.300 Can you click on it? No, I can't I'm trying to click on it. No, we're not there Down a little bit below the blue box right here. Oh, oh 01:39:59.860 --> 01:40:03.620 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's a battlefield six a bunch of stuff. Oh, you can get one of four games 01:40:04.020 --> 01:40:08.820 Okay, cool dying like the beast assassins create shadows siv seven in battlefield six. What are the other what are the other things? 01:40:08.900 --> 01:40:15.140 It's live. That's the promo end date january 31st, 2026. Let's go pick those games bonus content 01:40:15.140 --> 01:40:19.540 Whoever who cares about any of this it's in game garbage. Yeah, don't worry about it. But this you pick one of these 01:40:19.940 --> 01:40:25.540 Nice, that's pretty cool. Intel holiday bundle. I think they remember me. I think this is the same one they had before 01:40:25.540 --> 01:40:32.180 Yeah, but it wasn't running for a bit. Yeah, it's so it's back Well, no, if you look at the dates it was maybe they just pulled it off the site 01:40:32.260 --> 01:40:36.340 They might have run out of coupons or something because you know Intel like has to pay for this right? Yeah 01:40:36.340 --> 01:40:41.620 Yeah, that's that's the thing a lot of gamers might not necessarily have realized back in the day 01:40:41.620 --> 01:40:49.220 Like I remember having to admin these programs when we'd sell a g4c GPU or radion GPU or whatever and you get a you get like a coupon with a 01:40:49.860 --> 01:40:53.860 Metro Exodus or you know, whatever metro 2033 code or whatever 01:40:54.260 --> 01:40:56.900 um, is that like they they buy 01:40:57.700 --> 01:41:00.020 copies of the games so you can like 01:41:00.980 --> 01:41:08.100 run out of how many they bought so They may have run short. They may have restocked. I don't know because I remember we did this one week 01:41:08.500 --> 01:41:12.260 And it was running in canada and it like wasn't running on new egg or something 01:41:12.340 --> 01:41:17.380 So, uh, oh right. What's our affiliate code just in case? Uh, does anyone remember? I don't remember 01:41:17.540 --> 01:41:20.580 Jawa juice in full-point chat said pro tip. Don't pick sieve 7 01:41:21.140 --> 01:41:27.780 Badan and full-point chat said zero of 10 game. I would also throw my hat in the ring as a genuinely lifelong sieve fan 01:41:28.340 --> 01:41:35.220 Uh, I would avoid it At least for now. My brother told me it sucks. Dude is a big sieve guy not good 01:41:35.460 --> 01:41:39.940 Okay, if Sean says it's bad, then it's bad. They need oh, that's true. He's got like 01:41:40.820 --> 01:41:48.260 10,000 hours hours in sieve got so high that in steam it rolled over and he went back down to zero and then kept going up 01:41:48.580 --> 01:41:53.460 And he does not like sieve 7. Huh. Yeah, my doesn't display five digits. My brother was like 01:41:54.180 --> 01:41:57.540 Super not into that you're that you like 01:41:58.180 --> 01:42:02.580 Can't just stay genghis con the whole time. I knew exactly what he was going to say because that is 01:42:03.380 --> 01:42:08.100 Garbage, I also don't bad decision. I think they got rid of one more turn as well 01:42:08.340 --> 01:42:13.140 So it just kind of ends like you can't just keep I didn't even know that part because I played exactly one 01:42:13.540 --> 01:42:18.100 Campaign and when it ended I quit immediately because I committed to doing it one time 01:42:18.660 --> 01:42:21.300 And then wow, there were so many 01:42:22.340 --> 01:42:27.380 Fundamental bat this was the first every time, you know sieve comes out and when you first get it 01:42:27.460 --> 01:42:32.020 It's not going to be that great and then the expansions tend to make it really good. That's what happens like every time 01:42:32.420 --> 01:42:37.620 sieve 7 I don't think they can save it. I think it is fundamentally like flawed as a game 01:42:39.700 --> 01:42:47.540 Which sucks because there are a couple good ideas It's LMG.gg slash new egg if you guys want to pick up a b580 that makes sense. That's pretty easy. We should 01:42:48.020 --> 01:42:58.260 Remember I know I keep forgetting me too Anyway, the point is you can pick up an onyx lumie arc b580 12 gig remember 12 gigs vram. That's going to matter 01:42:59.220 --> 01:43:03.620 249 99 it is worth noting that these are a gen 4 by 8 01:43:04.180 --> 01:43:11.460 interface So if you do not have a gen 4 board and it doesn't support rebar, I would not recommend a b580 01:43:12.580 --> 01:43:16.980 Because if you have a gen 3 board, you'll only be getting gen 4 by 4 01:43:17.540 --> 01:43:23.380 equivalent bandwidth and it's That's where you start maybe running into a little bit of trouble and if you don't have rebar 01:43:23.380 --> 01:43:27.460 You're going to have a pretty bad time resizable bar. Just check your BIOS. Make sure it supports it 01:43:27.700 --> 01:43:33.460 You can also get an as rock challenger arc that also qualifies for the holiday bundle so you can get battlefield 6 or 01:43:34.340 --> 01:43:42.580 Some other games But probably battlefield 6. You can also get the Intel first party card for 249 99 that also has the holiday bundle 01:43:43.140 --> 01:43:49.060 Lots and lots of options for arc b580s for 249 99 ms rp 01:43:50.020 --> 01:44:00.260 Seriously though Now is the time because d RAM price increases are going to impact everything that has a d RAM chip in it 01:44:01.140 --> 01:44:10.420 And that includes GPU's. I think the the the new year is going to be a serious hangover for GPU sales when pricing 01:44:11.140 --> 01:44:17.300 Yeah, we'll see starts to increase again Uh, just for our point of clarification on what matters how much we're not a game review thing 01:44:17.300 --> 01:44:21.140 But whatever job would you said you can keep the leader but the sieve changes 01:44:21.140 --> 01:44:26.340 So you could still play as gangers con but you become the leader of a different civilization that does sound correct 01:44:26.340 --> 01:44:31.460 That's even dumber. It's very stupid. Sorry. I I haven't played it. So I was just going based on my brother 01:44:32.180 --> 01:44:36.980 We went to visit him a little while back and he was just like going off about like what a piece of it 01:44:37.060 --> 01:44:43.220 It also like wipes all your troops and like spawns and stuff when the like age changes 01:44:43.620 --> 01:44:51.460 It's very very weird. It's super super weird. I haven't like really played a sieve game since sieve 2 so 01:44:52.100 --> 01:44:55.700 Yeah, uh, they've all operated on the same kind of idea 01:44:55.940 --> 01:45:01.860 I just know the whole time that great wall of china early is op so that nobody can start a war with you 01:45:02.180 --> 01:45:05.380 Then you go get leonardo's workshop so that all your crap 01:45:06.020 --> 01:45:13.540 Garbage tier Phalanx's or whatever that you build will become like riflemen and then you go hard into science 01:45:14.020 --> 01:45:18.500 And then you win That's all I know 01:45:18.580 --> 01:45:25.460 Things have changed a little bit since yeah Um, see there you go. But yeah, I was it was this was like the biggest change. I would say 01:45:26.100 --> 01:45:34.100 um In the sieve line was sieve 7 and a lot of the change some of the change was kind of cool a lot of the change was really bad 01:45:34.660 --> 01:45:40.900 uh Jawa says but hey, you can sail through rivers. So it's all worth it 01:45:42.340 --> 01:45:49.940 All right That part is kind of neat All right, cool. Yeah, I mean I could see that being not worth the downsides. I could do that being kind of at all 01:45:51.140 --> 01:45:55.860 Cool, that'd be cool You can you can sail in rivers, right? Yeah 01:45:59.060 --> 01:46:03.780 I was very frustrated, but it is what it is. Oops. Oh shoot. I just oh man 01:46:03.860 --> 01:46:08.180 What's the open up the last tab I closed I always forget the short they need Luigi back, dude 01:46:08.580 --> 01:46:15.060 They need I that was I forgot that that was my conclusion, but it was they needed Luigi back like like that Luigi 01:46:15.140 --> 01:46:19.380 Yeah, that's right. He worked on sieve And he did ux 01:46:19.620 --> 01:46:25.060 Stuff and the ux and sieve 7 is really bad. He could he could do ux design from prison, right? 01:46:25.140 --> 01:46:29.380 They should let him do that I mean it might help it might save that company 01:46:30.180 --> 01:46:33.300 If there was a luigi expansion to see yeah, like if he 01:46:34.500 --> 01:46:36.980 If he kills one company but saves another 01:46:39.460 --> 01:46:44.580 Does he go net neutral does it work that way come out in the wash? I think in this case, he's definitely in a positive 01:46:44.980 --> 01:46:47.780 Um, I am not taking a stance on that 01:46:49.220 --> 01:46:51.220 That's fine. Um 01:46:52.740 --> 01:46:57.140 Anyways, yeah, let him uh, let him work from prison. Let him fix let him fix one of these 01:46:58.180 --> 01:47:03.620 Let him fix sieve 7 that'll be awesome It sounds a lot like 6 7 the kids will get behind it 01:47:04.340 --> 01:47:09.140 I'm uh, yeah, uh, yeah. Yeah. I mean wow. Yeah, um 01:47:10.740 --> 01:47:13.860 We could move on. All right. Yeah, that's probably good 01:47:14.580 --> 01:47:19.700 How how is his case going anyway? I'm I'm sure the I'm sure the kids are keeping up with it 01:47:20.900 --> 01:47:28.260 Hopefully well Wow, that's crazy. He's actually the first autocomplete for luigi not like, you know that luigi 01:47:28.900 --> 01:47:34.020 um Here you update update is one of my autocompletes. Okay pretrial hearing 01:47:34.580 --> 01:47:37.940 Uh postponed due to illness. Okay, so that's the 01:47:38.820 --> 01:47:42.420 um Oh video shows 01:47:42.740 --> 01:47:46.900 luigi saying he didn't want to talk police kept asking questions 01:47:47.780 --> 01:47:50.740 Hmm interesting. I think that's how that goes 01:47:51.540 --> 01:47:57.460 Yeah, I think that's pretty normal But if they can make the argument that he was like coerced in some way 01:47:58.020 --> 01:48:01.140 Um, and that it violated his his rights 01:48:02.100 --> 01:48:07.620 Or whatever then I mean, we all know that it's at this point or not at this point 01:48:07.860 --> 01:48:12.820 We all know that in many cases It's not about whether the person did it 01:48:13.940 --> 01:48:23.940 Oh, yeah Yeah, it's about whether they can find a loophole, right judicial not justice. Yeah, you know the the glove defense 01:48:24.340 --> 01:48:26.340 Yeah 01:48:28.020 --> 01:48:34.500 Anyways, uh Ioneo's next two has a massive battery. This is hilarious 01:48:35.220 --> 01:48:39.620 Ioneo who are known for making Windows handheld gaming devices announced their next two 01:48:40.580 --> 01:48:49.620 Powered by the AMD Ryzen ai max plus 395, which is a really long name and draws 85 watts features a 9.06 01:48:50.020 --> 01:48:53.780 inch screen 165 hertz to 2400 by 01:48:53.860 --> 01:48:58.980 1504 a lead screen and probably the craziest spec is the 01:49:00.500 --> 01:49:05.220 115 watt hour battery That is literally so big 01:49:05.460 --> 01:49:08.420 That i'm pretty sure you're not allowed to take it on a plane 01:49:09.860 --> 01:49:17.140 This battery size means that most airlines will require approval in order to allow that device to be brought on as a checked 01:49:17.540 --> 01:49:22.420 Oh, well, you don't put batteries in your checked anyways. No forget checked. I don't think you could even bring this 01:49:22.420 --> 01:49:25.460 It says checked item. I'm pretty sure they mean cabin item 01:49:25.780 --> 01:49:31.780 Uh, there is no pricing yet or full spec sheet, but Ioneo stated that they will reveal more soon 01:49:33.700 --> 01:49:38.180 Oh, sorry about that. I can uh, I can turn that off. Um 01:49:43.380 --> 01:49:51.780 Sorry, yeah, it is a unified don't worry about it That's one of the reasons my my laptop has two batteries in it instead of one giant battery 01:49:52.500 --> 01:49:56.900 Because two batteries is not one battery and therefore it is 01:49:57.460 --> 01:50:02.820 Below the limit that you can take on a plane if you total all the battery banks that I carry in my bag 01:50:03.140 --> 01:50:10.180 I'm way above. Oh, yeah Yeah, so if they had put two giant batteries in it, you would be fine, but it's not it's not about that 01:50:10.180 --> 01:50:16.580 It's about how much energy is in like that one. It's like it's it's kind of like you could bring 01:50:17.140 --> 01:50:22.340 You know a hundred firecrackers in your car, but one grenade is a bigger problem if that makes sense 01:50:23.780 --> 01:50:28.100 Is is like it is a function of just like how much energy is in it and stuff 01:50:28.660 --> 01:50:33.060 Uh, we'll set off with me. My own battery is really fast, but does does another thing on fire 01:50:33.620 --> 01:50:39.940 I believe it doesn't help. Yeah. Yeah, uh, because it's it's it's reaching the thermal runaway point is where you where you run into trouble 01:50:40.420 --> 01:50:45.300 um Another oh shoot. I was thinking there was something I was going to say too about oh 01:50:45.300 --> 01:50:51.460 Yeah, another major factor that I didn't think about until I had to research this because I got my battery bank confiscated on that last trip to China 01:50:51.860 --> 01:50:58.020 But the actual state of charge matters a bunch, which makes sense. Yeah, it does if you think about it 01:50:58.260 --> 01:51:03.060 I'm surprised they're willing to even bother. No, they're not. Oh, but I just I was I was just learning about it 01:51:03.060 --> 01:51:08.980 I understand um, and I didn't realize that it's way safer to travel with your batteries discharged 01:51:09.380 --> 01:51:16.420 which Totally totally makes sense. It does because there's like way less energy in it. Yeah, um 01:51:17.140 --> 01:51:19.700 But I just I never thought about that before. Yeah me either. Yeah 01:51:21.620 --> 01:51:26.260 Uh, you said something Dan Full plane announced 01:51:28.420 --> 01:51:31.460 I think we already did that I think I think we did that it's just funny 01:51:32.020 --> 01:51:34.900 It has a giant battery in it. So you can't take it on the plane 01:51:35.700 --> 01:51:44.580 Unless you had a gamer plane Then maybe you could wow you could then you could because the only justification you'd need is so that I can game 01:51:45.300 --> 01:51:49.220 I'm going to game hard and long and fast and fast 01:51:51.780 --> 01:51:54.740 And strong because my my poor forearms 01:51:54.980 --> 01:51:58.420 I've been uh, I've been using the gpd win five lately 01:51:58.980 --> 01:52:02.500 And I have found that it actually makes me want to game less 01:52:03.460 --> 01:52:07.540 How much does it weigh inside of it? Uh, it's like a good couple pounds 01:52:07.860 --> 01:52:11.940 Gpd win five. Wait, let's see what the ai says 01:52:12.740 --> 01:52:17.300 Uh varies depending on whether the external battery is attached 01:52:17.940 --> 01:52:23.460 Um with the external the total weight is about a kilo. Yeah, just over two pounds according to ai 01:52:23.540 --> 01:52:33.220 but that does sound about right it's Redunculus like I actually find myself because I'm I'm supposed to be using it for a review and I might just give up 01:52:33.700 --> 01:52:37.940 Because I I go to my nightstand and I have my 01:52:38.500 --> 01:52:45.060 Original rog ally with the battery mod So it's already a bit on the heavier side because I did the like the modded bigger battery in it 01:52:45.540 --> 01:52:48.740 I have not upgraded to the x I um 01:52:50.900 --> 01:52:54.180 You just not care Yeah, yeah 01:52:54.180 --> 01:52:59.300 It's faster But when I like when I finally play clear obscure or something 01:52:59.700 --> 01:53:03.780 Then I might like when I play a game that actually demands more GPU 01:53:03.940 --> 01:53:09.700 Yeah, then I might but lately the vast majority of my hours of handheld gaming have been final fantasy tactics 01:53:10.340 --> 01:53:16.420 A playstation one game And tape to tape which is barely even 3d. Yeah, so 01:53:17.540 --> 01:53:21.700 I just don't need it. Uh, so I've still been using my first gen ally 01:53:21.940 --> 01:53:27.460 Like if they bring me a better display or something like come on man do something that matters to me and I'll upgrade 01:53:27.540 --> 01:53:30.980 It's just I don't even because like I could just grab one from the warehouse 01:53:31.460 --> 01:53:39.220 But it's not even worth Just like resetting up Windows and downloading my games for the difference that it would make in gameplay to me right now 01:53:39.220 --> 01:53:46.260 So anyway, so anyway, the point is in my nightstand I've got my I've got my rg ally and then I've got the gpd win five right now 01:53:47.060 --> 01:53:51.700 And so two just breaks and and I just I just am like 01:53:54.020 --> 01:53:59.540 I could grab that And I could use it and then I could make notes for the review 01:54:01.220 --> 01:54:09.060 Or I could just Enjoy playing my games more. I feel like noting the amount of times that that happens is part of the review 01:54:10.340 --> 01:54:13.300 Yeah, like if you're like I very consistently 01:54:14.820 --> 01:54:22.420 Chose maybe 50% 50% of the time. You know what though? I haven't because it's kind of a pain 01:54:22.580 --> 01:54:27.460 It's like it's like a screw type mechanism. You can you can hook up the battery on a tether 01:54:28.340 --> 01:54:32.180 So I haven't bothered hooking it up like that yet because it's kind of stupid 01:54:34.340 --> 01:54:40.020 And it's just like it is another level of the inconvenience like now I have weight and inconvenience 01:54:40.660 --> 01:54:44.980 But what I'm going to do is I was going to use it with the the pack attached to the back for a while 01:54:45.540 --> 01:54:51.780 And like see how I feel about that And then I was going to move to the tether and then see if that changes my habits 01:54:52.180 --> 01:54:54.500 It feels kind of like 90s sick to 01:54:55.380 --> 01:55:01.860 To have a battery pack external battery. The 90s was objectively a terrible time for battery powered 01:55:02.580 --> 01:55:10.180 electronics No, it wasn't it was remember when you had to put like four double a's into the handle of a digital camera 01:55:10.660 --> 01:55:14.900 Like that was not good. It was awesome. That was bad and that was the 2000s 01:55:15.300 --> 01:55:21.540 Man, I remember I remember this rc car that I had. No, I've talked about that on the windshow before I even found a picture of it 01:55:22.260 --> 01:55:27.540 monster Six by six rc car or something like that. Where is it? Where is it? There's like there's this 01:55:28.420 --> 01:55:35.300 Thing that's like the 90s and very early 2000s was a point in time where technology was like awesome and made your life better 01:55:35.780 --> 01:55:39.300 But it wasn't like so good or all consuming that it also 01:55:39.780 --> 01:55:42.900 Attempted to ruin your life and I I embraced that a lot 01:55:43.060 --> 01:55:49.300 I think part of like batteries being kind of bad is like, yeah, your thing dies and then you probably want to go do something else 01:55:49.300 --> 01:55:55.460 Which is like potentially a good thing Man, I can't find it again, but I it was like this like six wheel 01:55:56.180 --> 01:56:00.420 RC car here at 90s. Let's try. Oh, yeah. Here it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah this thing 01:56:00.980 --> 01:56:06.740 This this piece of shit took like oh, I pressed the wrong thing. Whoops. What is this someone like the point is 01:56:07.540 --> 01:56:09.940 This piece of garbage took like 01:56:10.580 --> 01:56:17.780 12 double a batteries or something like that. Hell. Yeah, and the rechargeables that we had back then were not very good 01:56:18.260 --> 01:56:26.100 So they didn't last very long um And even disposables like barely lasted in the metro scorcher 01:56:26.580 --> 01:56:31.860 six by six fastest turbo 360 degree spins ever 01:56:33.540 --> 01:56:37.460 And also only the middle wheels drove. That's why it could spin really well 01:56:38.100 --> 01:56:43.860 um Man, where's the this might be a later version of it because mine definitely 01:56:44.500 --> 01:56:50.340 Mine definitely took double a batteries. I miss everything being turbo. I like turbo turbo is a good turbo tastic 01:56:50.500 --> 01:56:54.500 Yeah, um, anyway, I also had I also had one of these 01:56:55.300 --> 01:56:59.220 ricochet RC car this thing ran for like 01:56:59.940 --> 01:57:04.820 I want to say or did I have I had either the ricochet or the rebound this thing was super cool because 01:57:05.620 --> 01:57:12.980 It could flip over And then you could keep driving it as long as you could could do it backwards. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um 01:57:14.100 --> 01:57:19.460 That's cool. There's finesse in that. Yeah, it ran for like six minutes. Hell. Yeah on battery. It was so dumb 01:57:19.460 --> 01:57:26.500 Hell yeah 90s 90s battery powered electronics were objectively terrible and I will die on that hill. Nope 01:57:26.820 --> 01:57:32.500 I will die on that hill disagree. I'm dead now then because realistically I wasn't going to win a fight between us 01:57:34.420 --> 01:57:41.460 Way to go luke you killed me Mark this day in your calendar folks. This is the anniversary of my death 01:57:41.700 --> 01:57:43.700 Uh 01:57:45.140 --> 01:57:51.700 Speaking of things that make me want to die. Uh, no, no 60 million yen human washing machine revealed 01:57:52.260 --> 01:57:55.060 Uh, this is so funny, which by the way 60 million yen is 01:57:56.180 --> 01:58:00.660 386,759 dollars and 94 cents 01:58:00.820 --> 01:58:09.620 in usd It's a like a shower that you sit slash lay down in. Okay. I low key love the name of this company though 01:58:09.860 --> 01:58:15.460 They're just called science That's kind of awesome. Yeah, I do give them that. Okay. Hold on luke 01:58:16.100 --> 01:58:24.740 Hear me out. No this Merai, no just get open-minded for a second. Just just just just okay. Look, okay open-minded brain is open 01:58:24.740 --> 01:58:27.700 Open mind. Don't worry about this. Don't worry. Just be brain open. Okay 01:58:28.660 --> 01:58:31.300 The merai human washing machine 01:58:32.020 --> 01:58:36.420 Okay Can shower and dry a person 01:58:37.060 --> 01:58:46.660 Simply by them lying down in it Uh-huh in about 15 minutes, which there is some like excessive. Oh, man. That's not even fast. I know, right? 01:58:47.700 --> 01:58:54.020 I'm pretty sure I showered faster than that this morning. That is the very first paragraph of this article on the chosen 01:58:55.700 --> 01:58:59.940 You just like focus on the task at hand. You can just do that faster in a normal shower 01:59:00.020 --> 01:59:05.540 Is this is this supposed to be impressive that you could shower in 15 minutes? 01:59:05.700 --> 01:59:15.540 There is potentially some accessibility Coolness sure and this sure and the way it does it is cool like it almost sounds like an ultrasonic cleaner or something 01:59:15.700 --> 01:59:19.140 Apparently it uses ultra fine micro bubbles 01:59:19.700 --> 01:59:25.940 Invisible to the naked eye to penetrate deep into the pores to remove impurities such as dead skin cells and sebum 01:59:26.500 --> 01:59:30.820 sure Sensors installed on the back detect health status 01:59:31.300 --> 01:59:36.020 And videos and music are played to help users relax during the cleansing process 01:59:36.020 --> 01:59:40.500 Yeah, I just turned the volume of my phone up and leave it outside of the shower. Yeah, you could do that 01:59:41.060 --> 01:59:45.700 You could do that Yeah, do be clear. This is not a real product 01:59:45.700 --> 01:59:52.180 They're making like a few dozen of them and it's for like it's meant to be a novelty item for commercial installations 01:59:52.580 --> 01:59:57.540 I do know like, you know old folks homes or limited mobility people etc. Sure 01:59:58.340 --> 02:00:05.860 showering can be a This would not be the right form factor for that though. Like I don't know if you've ever seen like a senior's bath 02:00:06.020 --> 02:00:10.180 Yeah, they need like the little door. Yeah, you have a door and you like this looks like you have to climb into it 02:00:10.260 --> 02:00:14.900 Yeah, so this is like I do like the idea of like a 02:00:15.860 --> 02:00:20.420 automated human washing thing because I do know that it can it can be like 02:00:21.300 --> 02:00:26.900 Man, I don't really want to say it but it can be like embarrassing for for people to have to be like washed by someone else 02:00:27.060 --> 02:00:33.860 Stephen j says that clean time is the equivalent of saying this computer will boot and just the time it takes for you to eat breakfast 02:00:34.180 --> 02:00:39.140 It's like, yeah Like if I'm in a hurry, I can be in and out of the shower in about three minutes 02:00:39.220 --> 02:00:43.220 I know this from my years in high school of getting up at the last possible 02:00:43.220 --> 02:00:46.820 What are your what are you if you're going down to three minutes? You're you're probably giving something up 02:00:46.820 --> 02:00:53.380 So what are you doing? Uh at three minutes. I'm not conditioning. I'll tell you that much. Yeah, and I'm probably using shampoo 02:00:53.460 --> 02:01:00.180 So shampoo for body watch. Yeah Yeah, so I so I so yeah, it's you're going on a hard requirement. We're down to one soap 02:01:00.340 --> 02:01:07.700 Yeah, and no conditioner. Yeah, and and then are you are you like lathering in the hair and then like taking that and going elsewhere 02:01:07.780 --> 02:01:13.380 No, you've got time to squirt you've got time to squirt another pop before before you do the pits and the elsewhere 02:01:13.700 --> 02:01:17.540 There's there's no way you're doing like a full body lather at that speed though 02:01:18.180 --> 02:01:22.180 Yeah, but I would throw in feet. You got to do you kind of got to do your feet. You got to do feet 02:01:22.260 --> 02:01:24.260 Yeah, yeah, there's no way to skip the feet 02:01:26.180 --> 02:01:33.380 You Good good wet show conversation. Yeah, we just saved you 60 million yen. You're welcome 02:01:34.820 --> 02:01:37.780 And a lot of I mean that's five times faster or something 02:01:38.340 --> 02:01:41.060 All right, time to do the Floatplane announcements 02:01:41.620 --> 02:01:48.420 Uh, we had a little throwback Thursday on Floatplane this week. Do you want to fire up Floatplane? Yeah with three amazing 02:01:49.220 --> 02:01:53.860 exclusives. Oh no, this one's up We've first we've got 02:01:53.860 --> 02:01:56.980 Me react the exclusives are on the other you go first 02:01:56.980 --> 02:02:01.780 We've got me reacting to staff's first time meeting me that released on Monday 02:02:02.260 --> 02:02:09.140 And it's safe to say that people like seeing me in uncomfortable social situations. Oh, yeah, they do 02:02:10.260 --> 02:02:18.420 They like it a lot Or mostly they like me recalling times that I created uncomfortable social situations 02:02:18.500 --> 02:02:22.500 Linus is suffering Oh 02:02:22.500 --> 02:02:28.100 Boy, yeah, that's all just screen grabs from the video that is not me posing for the thumbnail 02:02:28.100 --> 02:02:31.380 I did not know that sammy was going to do that. I saw the thumbnail 02:02:32.340 --> 02:02:35.460 Um, anyway Colton's in there. Yvonne's in there 02:02:36.500 --> 02:02:42.500 There's there's some good ones. All right My problem with ours is I think I'd have to watch back 02:02:42.900 --> 02:02:48.420 Us talking about it like years ago because I only remember like some of the details at this point. Yeah, that was a long 02:02:48.500 --> 02:02:55.620 That was a long time ago We also had a section of the writers discuss Linus's hot takes 02:02:56.980 --> 02:03:01.780 Where they discuss wireless peripherals and finally 02:03:01.780 --> 02:03:09.140 Luke did you know that ploof who owns a display has been at the company for almost five years now 02:03:09.380 --> 02:03:15.300 I honestly thought it had been longer, but I know that as of yesterday because uh christmas party 02:03:15.380 --> 02:03:19.940 Yeah, we took a look back at his first videos what he wrote hosted and so on and so forth 02:03:20.020 --> 02:03:24.820 All of this is at our new link LMG dot gg slash fp wan 02:03:25.700 --> 02:03:30.340 um Okay, and both but man sammy 02:03:31.220 --> 02:03:33.620 You are such a unique human 02:03:35.300 --> 02:03:37.460 Look at this. He is look at this 02:03:41.380 --> 02:03:43.860 Under cap and uppercase 02:03:45.540 --> 02:03:52.100 Huh Who would think to write that like that under cap 02:03:56.420 --> 02:04:02.420 It feels very sammy like don't know why but you know why it's because that's what he sounds like when he talks 02:04:07.140 --> 02:04:13.140 You know, yeah, yeah uppercase works uppercap works no cap under cap under cap is good. No cap 02:04:13.220 --> 02:04:16.580 You'll be you'll be all right. Just rip a pack dude. Just rip a pack 02:04:17.860 --> 02:04:26.660 Literally he did that at the christmas party On stage he just like opened up a pack of pokemon cars. He just actively lost money on stage in front of everyone 02:04:26.740 --> 02:04:34.340 Yeah, I I didn't really comprehend what I was watching. It was awesome. We do we do we do kind of um team themes 02:04:34.340 --> 02:04:39.300 We do kind of like uh like it's it's somewhere between dress up and like 02:04:40.260 --> 02:04:42.900 Doing like a grade six class presentation 02:04:44.580 --> 02:04:51.220 Way to describe it and uh sammy's team was based on one of our core values, which is level up together 02:04:51.700 --> 02:04:58.020 So their team, which was actually also luke's team. Yeah, um all created sort of outfits that 02:04:58.820 --> 02:05:02.340 Uh that represented leveling up together and they went with pokemon 02:05:02.420 --> 02:05:08.500 So they had they had scientists and they had a couple of pokemon trainers including one on a bicycle 02:05:09.460 --> 02:05:17.140 Complete with helmet safety first. Thanks, Nate for remembering that. Um, they had some pokemon in their various evolutionary stages 02:05:17.220 --> 02:05:21.380 Luke was tall grass. Oh, yeah, I don't have a good how does tall grass level up luke? 02:05:21.700 --> 02:05:27.540 Well tall grass is where you go to level up Dan Yeah, and there was trainers on the tall grass and there was pokemon on the half 02:05:27.540 --> 02:05:30.260 Dan's just salty because luke's team beat his yeah 02:05:30.740 --> 02:05:34.740 Yeah, way to lose Dan pretty good way to lose Good job 02:05:34.740 --> 02:05:39.380 Anyway as part of leveling up sammy attempted to level up his finances 02:05:39.940 --> 02:05:45.060 By opening up a pack of pokemon cards as part of their presentation of their concept 02:05:45.700 --> 02:05:48.740 And um instead he leveled up his debt. Yeah 02:05:49.540 --> 02:05:55.380 Which is yeah, which he also just said in chat is a type of is a type of leveling up as well. Yeah 02:05:56.260 --> 02:06:00.020 Um weekend jedi 42 asks why are there's no pictures of this? 02:06:00.100 --> 02:06:06.660 We we decided many years ago that our christmas party was mostly going to be a content free zone 02:06:06.660 --> 02:06:10.980 We do kind of weird stuff I wasn't involved in the games planning this year 02:06:11.780 --> 02:06:14.660 but I won't pretend that 02:06:14.980 --> 02:06:20.900 It was any More weird than some of the stuff that I have planned in the past. You had to like dig through 02:06:21.620 --> 02:06:25.860 uh containers of like mashed potatoes and dry noodles and wet noodles 02:06:26.100 --> 02:06:31.060 With a wooden spoon in your mouth to find codes to unlock combination locks. It was a it was a whole thing 02:06:31.060 --> 02:06:33.860 I don't remember which one of those things but one of those trays like 02:06:34.420 --> 02:06:38.020 Stank. Yeah, I think it was like alfredo sauce or something rough 02:06:38.660 --> 02:06:41.780 I look I'm not gonna say I would have done any better 02:06:42.340 --> 02:06:45.220 But I will say that I was not involved in the games this year 02:06:45.700 --> 02:06:50.260 Yeah, uh anyway The point is that um 02:06:50.740 --> 02:06:53.860 We we want it to be kind of a uh, uh, uh 02:06:54.660 --> 02:07:00.980 Like social media free zone where people can you know cut loose a little bit for for once around here 02:07:01.060 --> 02:07:06.020 We really appreciate that. We did so nice have to do one short this year 02:07:06.100 --> 02:07:10.980 But it is very short and it just involves the giveaway of the high sense 116 inch tv 02:07:11.460 --> 02:07:17.700 We broke policy for that, but yeah spoiler alert exception. Not the rule spoiler alert dad. Sorry. I didn't win it again 02:07:18.820 --> 02:07:22.820 One time how many how many tickets did you put in? I always do over half my stack 02:07:23.220 --> 02:07:29.300 In the in the grand prize. Yeah, I did most of because my I saw I went through them before 02:07:29.700 --> 02:07:34.740 Before I drew and I was like wow dad put a lot of tickets in here. I bought a bunch of people did 02:07:34.820 --> 02:07:38.580 I know alice and james were also trying to get it. I actually pulled up my 02:07:40.020 --> 02:07:44.820 Like office model just to check because it's like nine feet wide 02:07:45.300 --> 02:07:49.620 Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense for me at all, but it would be it would be cool in my dad's place 02:07:49.940 --> 02:07:53.380 We've been we've been going through every once in a bit. We did 02:07:53.780 --> 02:08:00.980 I mean we did watch two towers now So there's return of the king left and I was I was sitting there next to em at the christmas party 02:08:01.060 --> 02:08:04.580 I leaned over and I'll be like it'd pretty you'd be pretty sick to watch return of the king 02:08:04.660 --> 02:08:09.220 I'll like the enormous tv it would it'll happen. It'll happen sometime 02:08:09.380 --> 02:08:13.620 Hey, you guys have come over to watch hockey games at my place feel free. That's true 02:08:13.780 --> 02:08:17.780 Yeah, you could always watch return of the king on the on the slightly smaller 02:08:18.420 --> 02:08:23.540 115 inch tv can't do it. You can't it's too small. Yeah, it's too small. You'll have to make friends with the 02:08:23.620 --> 02:08:26.980 We're not disclosing who it was. Yes. You'll have to make friends with the person who won it 02:08:27.300 --> 02:08:30.340 Then you can watch on the proper biggest tv. 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I am just recalling when we discussed it 02:12:13.540 --> 02:12:16.580 Back when he launched this product and people were calling it a scam 02:12:16.900 --> 02:12:22.900 And we had that long conversation about how people are using the word scam to describe things that are not 02:12:23.220 --> 02:12:30.100 scams the product always did exactly what he said it would do which means it's not a scam you just 02:12:31.220 --> 02:12:34.660 Don't like it Which is a totally different thing 02:12:35.060 --> 02:12:40.660 anyway Panels is going away on November 30th 02:12:40.900 --> 02:12:46.340 Marquez published an unlisted video giving an update on the wallpaper app panels announcing that it is being sunsetted 02:12:46.820 --> 02:12:52.740 For those who missed it panels, which was started by the mkbhd team was launched on september 26th of last year 02:12:53.060 --> 02:12:59.300 It was an app dedicated to downloading wallpapers for your mobile devices and was immediately met with backlash for 02:12:59.700 --> 02:13:08.660 A number of reasons with the biggest being the $50 yearly subscription, which again, I repeat is not a scam it just 02:13:09.540 --> 02:13:18.420 is Of dubious value to many of the folks who evaluated its value people buy art for very weird amounts of money 02:13:19.700 --> 02:13:25.540 And sometimes that is a scam Yeah, but it's not a scam of the person who's buying the art 02:13:25.540 --> 02:13:30.660 It's a scam of the tax system. So that's a whole whole separate whole separate deal 02:13:32.020 --> 02:13:39.860 Marquez did make a follow-up video offering a lot more explanation for the pricing including how it would help support the artists that made the images 02:13:40.660 --> 02:13:43.940 But as of now the final date for the app is december 31st 02:13:43.940 --> 02:13:48.820 And marquez explained that there will be a pro-rated refund for anyone who is currently subscribed 02:13:49.220 --> 02:13:54.020 And this is super cool. And the main reason that I even wanted to talk about this at all 02:13:54.660 --> 02:14:02.020 He announced that the entire source code will be going up on github for free if you ever wanted to make a wallpaper app 02:14:02.500 --> 02:14:06.020 And realistically does anybody need this source code? 02:14:06.660 --> 02:14:15.140 probably not but as But as far as good guy moves go if you're going to discontinue something a pro-rated refund 02:14:15.540 --> 02:14:19.140 and making the code open source for anyone who wants to 02:14:20.020 --> 02:14:23.140 Continue it in any way making the source code available 02:14:23.540 --> 02:14:28.980 This is about the most graceful way you can possibly do it. And I think that's pretty cool 02:14:30.500 --> 02:14:35.220 That's it. That's all I have to say about that I 02:14:38.020 --> 02:14:44.500 Cool Next one it is cool dope even you might say 02:14:47.220 --> 02:14:50.660 Is it dope tech no, okay sounds good 02:14:51.460 --> 02:15:00.180 Did we talk about cherry yet? I don't think so rip cherry cherry held a patent for mechanical switches and used to be the gold standard for keyboards 02:15:00.580 --> 02:15:08.180 For keyboard switches. Yeah That patent maybe keyboards if you do like check out systems at vegas for some reason 02:15:09.460 --> 02:15:19.380 That McDonald's like Yeah, yeah random stuff like that that patent lapsed in 2014 since cherry's patent lapsed competition has slowly 02:15:19.540 --> 02:15:24.020 But surely but fastly kind of put yeah pretty quick actually push them out of business 02:15:24.740 --> 02:15:29.940 They're yeah, it says it again it it lapsed in 2014 tons of other companies sprung up 02:15:30.500 --> 02:15:36.260 And then I never really know how to say these names properly, but gatteron gatteron. I took the easy one texi 02:15:37.300 --> 02:15:44.340 jwick or jwk etc many the new companies have improved over cherry in the past decade in like honestly a 02:15:44.820 --> 02:15:46.820 wide variety of ways 02:15:47.940 --> 02:15:53.300 It's been pretty wild many premium switches now come pre lubed which is a quite a benefit time saver 02:15:53.460 --> 02:15:57.460 Yeah, like dude lubing switches it's like 02:15:57.460 --> 02:16:02.420 That's the real reason that all these like tiny keyboard form factors got popular 02:16:03.140 --> 02:16:06.820 Everyone just gaslit themselves into believing that they wanted a tiny keyboard 02:16:06.820 --> 02:16:11.700 But what they actually didn't want to do was lube 104 stems. Uh 02:16:12.580 --> 02:16:15.380 I'm kidding. I know a lot of you legitimately love your tiny keyboards 02:16:16.260 --> 02:16:20.420 Hot take. I think this is one of the reasons why uh keyboard stuff is getting more boring these days though 02:16:20.500 --> 02:16:23.300 Is there's nothing to it anymore, but anyways moving on 02:16:25.700 --> 02:16:28.500 Yeah experimentation with other materials has been a big part of it 02:16:28.980 --> 02:16:35.220 Cherry just hasn't really been the gold standard for a while And they haven't kept up with things like hall effects or optical switches and whatnot 02:16:35.860 --> 02:16:39.780 Cherry is now looking to give up its german production and sell the core division 02:16:40.100 --> 02:16:42.820 You might be like wow that seems like an overreaction. No 02:16:43.540 --> 02:16:47.940 From january 2025 to the end of september the company made a net loss of almost 02:16:48.740 --> 02:16:51.860 20.4 million euros 02:16:54.660 --> 02:17:01.140 Wow, I'm kind of surprised that was even possible and something that you got to kind of understand is that 02:17:02.580 --> 02:17:12.340 cherry like keyswitch This is a really really small part of their parent company's operation. It's like kind of 02:17:13.380 --> 02:17:17.860 Barely even a footnote So the fact that they even bothered for this long is 02:17:18.420 --> 02:17:21.060 Honestly, kind of a surprise when we were there 02:17:22.180 --> 02:17:26.020 Which cherry was like much more on top of the world at that time. Hell. Yeah 02:17:26.660 --> 02:17:33.460 What a great shot. Yeah But when we were there, I remember thinking like oh, this is like pretty small 02:17:34.020 --> 02:17:40.660 Yeah And then we we couldn't shoot any of it, but uh actually hold on. I'm just gonna check a thing 02:17:41.620 --> 02:17:43.620 Uh 02:17:45.220 --> 02:17:50.900 Yeah, okay cool in 2008 Um cherry was purchased by zf 02:17:51.620 --> 02:17:59.460 so We couldn't shoot any of it, but like the stuff that zf was doing. Yeah for like the automotive industry 02:18:00.100 --> 02:18:03.700 And stuff was like Oh 02:18:03.700 --> 02:18:06.660 So they just wanted cherry's ip probably 02:18:07.300 --> 02:18:10.420 For something to do with their real business and they were like 02:18:11.220 --> 02:18:14.180 Sure, you keep doing your little thing 02:18:14.740 --> 02:18:19.380 um Apparently zedaf sold the cherry group back in 2016 02:18:20.180 --> 02:18:23.620 But still uses cherry brand. It's okay. This is ai though. So who knows? 02:18:24.260 --> 02:18:28.180 But the point is they did own them at some point and uh cherry 02:18:28.820 --> 02:18:35.460 Was later. Oh wow cherry has been sold a couple times. So timeline of ownership zedaf purchased them in 2008 02:18:36.820 --> 02:18:40.820 Zedaf sold them in 2016. So this is after the patent lapsed 02:18:41.380 --> 02:18:45.780 um, and then uh, that was to genui partners and then 02:18:46.340 --> 02:18:50.340 From 2020 to 2021 was acquired by argand partners 02:18:50.980 --> 02:18:53.860 uh, yeah, so things have clearly been 02:18:54.900 --> 02:18:58.500 Circling the drain for quite a while now. Yeah, what do you think? 02:19:00.980 --> 02:19:09.140 You're gonna buy cherry by cherry No, I don't want them do what with it. Exactly. I have I can't really add anything to that table 02:19:09.380 --> 02:19:15.620 I mean what they were worth was the ip and the german manufacturing and now the ip is 02:19:16.180 --> 02:19:19.700 Worthless and the german manufacturing is closing. Yeah, so 02:19:20.340 --> 02:19:24.420 Yeah, yeah, I think they're just uh, I think they're a relic now make canadian switches 02:19:25.860 --> 02:19:30.980 I mean would anybody really want maple syrup maple syrup lube. Yeah, I don't think so 02:19:31.620 --> 02:19:37.860 It'd smell really nice. Yeah for a little while. Yeah, it smelled really bad eventually. Yeah 02:19:40.580 --> 02:19:44.900 I mean, there's a lot of things that people like really. Yeah, because then you just have to keep buying 02:19:48.100 --> 02:19:51.700 We finally have a consumable product Yeah, like that'd be oh man 02:19:51.700 --> 02:19:56.100 Imagine you could make like the world's best smelling cologne, but it only smells good for an hour 02:19:56.420 --> 02:20:04.420 You know like what a business It was actually the world's best smelling cologne like objectively that would sell like crazy. Oh people would totally do it 02:20:04.500 --> 02:20:06.900 Yeah, you know who's super into cologne? 02:20:08.340 --> 02:20:16.340 charotte That makes sense. He gave me like a whole like lesson on cologne when we were stuck in an airport for five hours on that 02:20:16.340 --> 02:20:18.820 China trip for me. Oh, yeah, he's like 02:20:19.780 --> 02:20:26.180 And and it's not just like You know, he's like, oh, yeah, here's the one that I have and and I like it a lot 02:20:26.740 --> 02:20:31.300 You know different ones for different like occasions and stuff because he because because that change with the seasons 02:20:31.380 --> 02:20:36.980 That's just like, oh, you went on the subreddit and you went to like the pinned one and then you just bought whatever was the top 02:20:37.060 --> 02:20:42.180 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. No. He's like here's the one that like I'd love to wear 02:20:43.060 --> 02:20:50.100 Regularly, but it's like not affordable. But here's the one that you know because uh, you know, what's what's their name? 02:20:50.340 --> 02:20:53.460 Uh Not mac, but maybe it was mac 02:20:53.860 --> 02:20:59.860 Basically, he like knew the promotional cycle of one of our local cosmetics chains and was like, yeah 02:21:00.100 --> 02:21:05.540 So I'll pick up like the big bottle of this from them like during this month when they like have the promo 02:21:05.700 --> 02:21:10.580 But these ones are really nice and he like shows me a couple. He's like, yeah, they like kind of change over time 02:21:10.580 --> 02:21:14.500 This one's like fireplace and like, okay, check this out. Okay. Smell it right away 02:21:14.500 --> 02:21:19.220 And I'm like, oh, okay And then he like like it goes like this with the card and then he actually like carried it with him 02:21:19.220 --> 02:21:22.740 And then like 10 minutes later, he's like, okay now smell the fireplace one 02:21:22.740 --> 02:21:25.700 So he had me like smell like a bunch of these and he's like, yeah 02:21:26.100 --> 02:21:30.420 See how it like smells different now like it was sweet at the beginning and now it's more smoky 02:21:30.500 --> 02:21:34.260 Like this is like this is like really good. He's like talking me through all this stuff. I'm like, dude 02:21:35.620 --> 02:21:40.420 I don't know. I just wear my speed stick I just I was gonna say I'm pretty sure you don't even wear a clone 02:21:41.060 --> 02:21:45.060 No underarm stuff. Yeah. No, I mean as long as I don't stink 02:21:45.140 --> 02:21:49.140 Yeah, I was gonna say you're not on the there's like a spectrum and it's it's stink to 02:21:49.620 --> 02:21:55.060 Doesn't smell bad to smells good. And I think we're both getting the doesn't smell bad. That's hope. Yeah 02:21:56.100 --> 02:22:00.260 That's the goal at least Yeah, I I actually uh 02:22:00.980 --> 02:22:06.100 It was asked once What I smell like in an AMA 02:22:06.820 --> 02:22:09.700 And I believe it was because I had some help. Oh, yeah 02:22:09.940 --> 02:22:14.820 I had some help responding to the AMA from longtime members of the team and ed 02:22:16.020 --> 02:22:19.140 Was the one who responded to that one. Thank you very much for that 02:22:19.860 --> 02:22:23.700 And he said I smell like cheap deodorant and cheap hair gel 02:22:25.060 --> 02:22:32.020 And nowadays I don't wear hair gel anymore. So cheap deodorant. Just cheap deodorant. Nice. That works. That's good 02:22:33.460 --> 02:22:36.100 It's perfectly perfectly good guy stuff 02:22:36.740 --> 02:22:42.500 Um, I don't know if I was gonna wear anything I would probably just go for the most basic 02:22:42.980 --> 02:22:50.900 Possible Not much left. Yeah, I would probably go for the most basic possible thing and I would just wear like old spice or something 02:22:52.340 --> 02:22:57.220 Yeah, is this could you it could it could would charade be able to like pair something with you? 02:22:57.380 --> 02:23:04.740 I don't know anything about this But like I honestly think that just like smelling like anything other than just basic would just 02:23:05.220 --> 02:23:09.460 It wouldn't be right wouldn't fit your brand. It's not even my brand. It's just like 02:23:09.780 --> 02:23:14.340 I Wouldn't consistently apply it 02:23:14.660 --> 02:23:22.180 Like I have to be in I have to be in active pain to consistently use a product in the morning and evening 02:23:22.580 --> 02:23:27.620 so other than other than uh Like teeth brushing you may not believe this 02:23:28.100 --> 02:23:32.900 Because it's hard to tell right now yellow right now because of the wax that's over top of my brackets 02:23:33.300 --> 02:23:38.740 Um, which is stained but my teeth are some I like I care about my oral hygiene 02:23:38.820 --> 02:23:44.900 I I hate bad breath. I like on myself on anyone. I don't like bad breath 02:23:45.300 --> 02:23:52.340 So that's something that I don't have to remember Um, but other than that like even my anti inflammatory cream for the tennis elbow 02:23:52.660 --> 02:23:57.620 It's taken me so long to heal because I'd be so inconsistent about applying it about that stuff 02:23:57.780 --> 02:24:02.980 Like even if I'm actively in pain I will often forget to put on something that I'm that I'm supposed to use 02:24:03.460 --> 02:24:07.860 Like Yvonne recommended like like facial cleansers and stuff that I'm supposed to use 02:24:07.940 --> 02:24:12.660 So like I don't know my pores will be smaller or something like you want small pores. Does this matter? 02:24:12.900 --> 02:24:17.700 Like I just I can't be motivated is pores. I can't be motivated to use them regularly. So 02:24:18.660 --> 02:24:22.260 I have big strong pores um 02:24:22.260 --> 02:24:25.860 Oh man, and salmo asks old spice is basic 02:24:26.180 --> 02:24:29.300 I ain't fancy. I guess old spice is super basic 02:24:29.780 --> 02:24:35.140 Sherrod would Sherrod would be able to educate you. Yeah, old spice is not. Yeah 02:24:37.300 --> 02:24:39.300 Yeah, it's literally old 02:24:40.420 --> 02:24:46.180 It's the old spice And to be clear, I they have lots of other products 02:24:46.580 --> 02:24:54.500 But when I when I was talking about it just now I was referring to literally like the og like the aftershave smell. It's my original. Yeah. Yeah 02:24:54.980 --> 02:25:00.420 Syphil, syphilis says old spice has picked up their game lately. Okay. That's cool. Good for them 02:25:01.380 --> 02:25:08.740 I still think it's normie stuff Compared to compared probably charade could never I I don't think charade would ever 02:25:09.300 --> 02:25:18.180 I don't think he would ever I'll ask him I'll ask him. It's funny looking at like the the photos at my parents house because you know leading up till grade 02:25:18.740 --> 02:25:22.900 Five, I don't think you're old enough to possibly care and then in grade five and grade six 02:25:22.900 --> 02:25:26.660 I cared like a lot about my appearance and you can tell in the photos 02:25:28.100 --> 02:25:31.060 And then immediately after that I I never cared again 02:25:32.180 --> 02:25:34.180 And you can tell in the photos 02:25:36.580 --> 02:25:38.580 I don't know what happened 02:25:39.860 --> 02:25:47.940 But uh, it's true All right, all right, I asked him we're gonna get we're gonna get the experts take probably pretty soon here 02:25:47.940 --> 02:25:51.380 It's it shows available on on teams. So we should hear back from me 02:25:51.380 --> 02:25:58.100 It's middle of a work day, which is weird because when show but yeah, yeah, should be fine. Should be fine. This is this is work 02:25:59.380 --> 02:26:01.780 Yeah, the the wan people want to know. Yeah 02:26:02.980 --> 02:26:09.460 All right. No, no, I meant it like Yeah, I didn't mean it that way. I meant like he'll probably be available because three dots. Here we go 02:26:09.860 --> 02:26:12.500 Here we go. We got the dots the the dots are incoming 02:26:13.140 --> 02:26:17.060 I asked him old spice. Would you ever? I 02:26:17.060 --> 02:26:21.060 Love how it's oh the three dots are gone. Oh three dots are gone. He's thinking 02:26:22.820 --> 02:26:26.980 Like Dio Would I ever wear it lol? 02:26:29.460 --> 02:26:37.940 I mean the brand I can I can I feel like yeah, I feel like deodorant versus cologne is like a pretty big jump. That's true 02:26:38.500 --> 02:26:43.940 Okay, so I'm talking more like do they have cologne they must right? I don't know 02:26:44.340 --> 02:26:49.060 Oh, maybe we're just maybe we're just asking entirely the wrong question. Yeah, we might be 02:26:51.140 --> 02:26:53.140 Uh, they have cologne. Okay 02:26:54.740 --> 02:27:00.660 Zen ox LT asks wait, are there deodorant without a scent? I believe so. They're really hard to track down though 02:27:04.020 --> 02:27:07.140 Yeah, here we go. He sees it. He's seen it 02:27:08.660 --> 02:27:18.660 He's giving it a think he'll he's giving it a think Should we do should we do another topic in the meantime? Oh, sure. Oh, no. Oh, dude. Oh, dude. We got a strong response 02:27:19.380 --> 02:27:22.100 Hell no lol. I left that in high school 02:27:22.980 --> 02:27:27.380 Okay, so there you go boys We we got you your answer 02:27:29.620 --> 02:27:36.180 Come dig our song cologne. Thanks. I uh, thanks. I'll let the wind come dig our song 02:27:36.660 --> 02:27:43.620 Yeah, I want to bring it up. No, no come like like in french. Oh my god, stop 02:27:45.700 --> 02:27:52.740 I will look it up because I can I think I might have found it pretty quick. Uh, oh, this sounds like a store maybe 02:27:54.420 --> 02:27:56.740 Uh, cool. Okay, here we go. Here we go 02:27:57.620 --> 02:28:08.420 Come dig our song perfumes Okay, so this is this is apparently this is charade approved. Yeah, and and and they're like packaging is a major factor apparently 02:28:09.060 --> 02:28:14.340 Okay, I this is not something that I personally can really like understand too much 02:28:15.060 --> 02:28:21.780 but um You know apparently that's you know a big part of the yeah concrete 02:28:22.260 --> 02:28:26.740 Dude, I don't know. This is not my world. This is not my world. This is not a thing that I 02:28:27.380 --> 02:28:34.260 Really understand very well Neat, but this is something that I mean, how much does this stuff cost? Okay, what's the drowning? 02:28:34.340 --> 02:28:36.340 How much does it cost to smell like concrete? 02:28:38.020 --> 02:28:40.020 You know sure, let's find that out. I want to know 02:28:41.060 --> 02:28:47.380 I want to smell like concrete Okay, well we oh my god. These are the only places we can get it 02:28:48.260 --> 02:28:51.140 What am I even what am I even talking about sure? I'll take your cookies 02:28:51.540 --> 02:28:56.500 I'm not Okay, let's go with new york because that'll likely be in u.s. Oh 02:29:00.420 --> 02:29:02.900 Okay, that's not concrete though. Is that a year's supply? 02:29:04.340 --> 02:29:08.260 First when 30 years ago these perfumes were first imagined 02:29:10.660 --> 02:29:17.380 Expressing the values of the brand through a new medium to disturb the traditional parameters of the fragrance industry 02:29:18.340 --> 02:29:24.020 Yeah Okay, that is a job that ai could do 02:29:24.580 --> 02:29:27.700 To writing the product descriptions for for like bougie 02:29:28.740 --> 02:29:33.460 Nice. Yeah, I think so I think so. I don't even think anyone's gonna be that mad about it 02:29:35.220 --> 02:29:38.660 Me saying that I don't I don't even think that's a hot take someone will be 02:29:40.260 --> 02:29:42.260 All right, do we move on? 02:29:43.380 --> 02:29:48.340 Uh, yeah. Yeah, I think we move on There's a bunch of no notes 02:29:48.580 --> 02:29:56.740 Topics. Yeah, we could do a no notes topic sure google has removed the call home and pa style broadcast features from the home app 02:29:56.820 --> 02:30:00.420 Yeah, that sucks Yeah, yeah 02:30:00.420 --> 02:30:06.580 A company is using ai Linus to advertise a pirate streaming box on tiktok. That sucks. That's lame 02:30:07.860 --> 02:30:11.540 Yeah, oh here. You know what do you do anything about that? Are you gonna do anything about that? 02:30:12.180 --> 02:30:20.180 realistically um You know, they know what they're doing. Uh, yeah, that's not you they're in uh, they're in a region where 02:30:21.140 --> 02:30:26.580 probably Like if if if there was a way to go after these guys legally 02:30:27.300 --> 02:30:32.420 I'm sure that the content owners of the content that they're pirating on the 02:30:33.300 --> 02:30:38.260 U-free box us2 I'm sure they'd be trying so 02:30:39.220 --> 02:30:43.460 I'm kind of looking at it going. What chance do I have of combating this? 02:30:44.340 --> 02:30:51.460 um Yeah, this blows never buy from these guys because they're clearly scummy butt heads and also 02:30:52.020 --> 02:30:56.500 My mouth is not that big. Yeah, that's the main thing that made it obvious. It wasn't you to be honest 02:30:57.220 --> 02:31:01.220 I guess I could I can no 02:31:05.060 --> 02:31:08.660 Yeah, because now it's not that wide super round. Yeah. Yeah 02:31:09.940 --> 02:31:16.100 Yeah, you can't do it that way I can try not quite there. No, I can't quite get there sounds horrible when you do that too 02:31:16.900 --> 02:31:20.260 listen Okay, don't listen 02:31:21.300 --> 02:31:26.660 What else we got moving on no notes. Missouri residents searches for vpns have quadrupled 02:31:27.220 --> 02:31:32.900 After age verification laws kicked in. Yeah, we all knew it was gonna happen. Yeah, this is this is this is gonna be a thing 02:31:33.300 --> 02:31:39.620 Now's a perfect time to shout out our vpn partner private internet access. We'll have them linked down below 02:31:40.340 --> 02:31:46.020 um, our discussion question is how could stories like this getting attention put vpns at risk 02:31:46.740 --> 02:31:48.740 man, ah 02:31:50.820 --> 02:31:56.260 I would like to think that the us would stop short of outlawing vpns 02:31:56.420 --> 02:32:02.820 Because that would be like some that would be like some china level authoritarianism. Didn't they very recently like 02:32:03.460 --> 02:32:10.660 pump vpns like crazy Oh, they like told people. I think it was like the fbi specifically talked about them or something 02:32:10.660 --> 02:32:16.020 Like it was one agency that talked about them. But the the the thing to wait 02:32:18.020 --> 02:32:22.420 Shut up Someone said they're illegal in michigan 02:32:23.220 --> 02:32:27.860 That can't be right Hold on a second. We need to look that up. Hold on a second 02:32:31.460 --> 02:32:38.340 Hold on a second Okay, ai says no, they are not currently illegal in michigan, but 02:32:39.060 --> 02:32:42.260 A proposed bill house bill 49 38 02:32:42.980 --> 02:32:47.300 The anti-corruption of public morals act. Oh my god 02:32:48.020 --> 02:32:56.740 Ames to ban the sale promotion and use Of circumvention tools like vpns to access prohibited content like adult sites forcing isps to block them 02:32:57.140 --> 02:33:00.180 And potentially making tools for remote work illegal though 02:33:00.260 --> 02:33:04.100 It is though its passage and enforceability are uncertain 02:33:04.900 --> 02:33:06.900 That is an ai summary 02:33:09.860 --> 02:33:13.940 Electronic frontier foundation has a great headline on this 02:33:14.740 --> 02:33:18.900 Lawmakers want to ban vpns and they have no idea what they're doing 02:33:20.020 --> 02:33:27.700 Yes, yeah, when do they though? Yeah, when doing practically anything two truer clauses have never been attached to each other 02:33:28.100 --> 02:33:31.940 Before by an m-dash um 02:33:31.940 --> 02:33:41.300 Outstanding Apparently this is wisconsin michigan and beyond. Wow buzz light year two. Oh, okay. This is over in the uk 02:33:42.420 --> 02:33:44.420 Oh, man 02:33:47.620 --> 02:33:49.620 Sometimes I feel like 02:33:50.740 --> 02:33:53.540 You know you just add those to the doc my north american 02:33:55.220 --> 02:34:01.140 Cousins i'll highlight it My north american cousins down in the united states of a 02:34:01.780 --> 02:34:04.980 um Sometimes I feel like 02:34:05.300 --> 02:34:09.140 There are certain hot button issues 02:34:09.300 --> 02:34:13.220 That they get really like rah rah rah my personal freedoms about 02:34:14.180 --> 02:34:16.500 While completely missing 02:34:17.700 --> 02:34:24.980 The active erosion of said freedoms in much more restrictive much wider reaching ways 02:34:25.620 --> 02:34:30.020 That um, I just find a little bit baffling 02:34:32.660 --> 02:34:36.420 I just I find it I find it very confusing 02:34:37.060 --> 02:34:45.060 um, that there isn't More outrage over stuff like this or those uh, what was that camera surveillance company don't know what they are 02:34:45.460 --> 02:34:49.940 That surveillance company. Yeah flock the flock camera topic from last week 02:34:50.580 --> 02:34:54.420 like This is bad 02:34:55.300 --> 02:35:02.180 and like anyone any individual senator or representative or 02:35:03.060 --> 02:35:08.340 Uh governor or whatever or any party that is that is pushing this agenda 02:35:10.340 --> 02:35:13.940 Like I I I I I I would have a hard time 02:35:14.900 --> 02:35:18.900 supporting them um 02:35:19.620 --> 02:35:21.620 Oh 02:35:23.780 --> 02:35:27.940 Yeah, this is this is tough. I have a feeling honestly, they just don't even know what it is 02:35:30.100 --> 02:35:38.180 I mean what i'm kind of leaning on Because it actually it actually feels like it supports like traditional american values vpns 02:35:38.900 --> 02:35:42.980 Well, yeah, it's like protecting of the individual from the state. Blah blah blah blah blah 02:35:43.140 --> 02:35:47.140 And like so I I really think they just don't even know what it is 02:35:48.020 --> 02:35:50.020 I suspect it's an education problem 02:35:56.420 --> 02:36:03.220 All right I don't mean traditional education. I don't think you go to school to learn what a vpn is. All right. That's not my point 02:36:04.740 --> 02:36:10.900 No comment No comment. I majored in pia. Yeah, like uh, yeah 02:36:12.180 --> 02:36:16.740 I mean, I'm not educated on colognes. Uh, I'm pissed. I didn't learn about that in school 02:36:18.100 --> 02:36:22.980 Uh, anyways next one This one's a little fun 02:36:23.220 --> 02:36:28.900 Um, yeah, sure hit me Uh, no notes, but there are some I guess uh discussion 02:36:29.540 --> 02:36:34.980 Discuss the impact of crawler bots on overall internet traffic using Labs as an example. There are some discussion questions here 02:36:35.460 --> 02:36:40.740 Uh, what more can be done to regulate crawler bots? Uh, there's some technical solutions 02:36:40.740 --> 02:36:44.900 Why don't we show why don't we show the graph that you shared with me first? Sure. So there's a few now 02:36:45.700 --> 02:36:49.060 Because we figured out that you wanted to show this on wans. So we added some info 02:36:49.140 --> 02:36:53.940 But there's the linked one. So the linked reference image is the one that you initially saw. Okay, so here 02:36:54.020 --> 02:36:57.860 Let me let me fire that up. Okay. So here's what luke showed me and I was like, hey 02:36:58.580 --> 02:37:02.340 Wouldn't it be kind of cool if we talked about this? So this is traffic 02:37:03.140 --> 02:37:06.900 To LTT um to LTT Labs. Yeah that 02:37:08.100 --> 02:37:13.140 Is non-human um that we were able to trace back to 02:37:13.540 --> 02:37:19.780 particular ai Crawler bots. And this is a relatively short period of time. We're showing like 02:37:20.420 --> 02:37:23.460 um early november 26th to 02:37:24.740 --> 02:37:29.700 Late midday december 2nd. Sorry. Sorry. I'm doing a bad job. What's going on over there? 02:37:29.780 --> 02:37:34.100 I'm doing a bad job of this there november 26th down there. I was trying to show the date clearer 02:37:34.180 --> 02:37:37.940 But whatever i'm just gonna circle it and say november 26th. So it's a relatively short period of time 02:37:37.940 --> 02:37:40.980 But you can see like chat gbt is like an enormous amount of this 02:37:41.380 --> 02:37:44.580 And then you've got google bot google bots a little bit complicated 02:37:44.580 --> 02:37:47.860 We'll talk about in a second and then you take a significant jump down 02:37:48.660 --> 02:37:52.820 So it's significant chat gbt significant jump down google bot significant jump down 02:37:53.460 --> 02:37:56.020 Everything else basically being duck duck 02:37:56.900 --> 02:38:01.300 amazon and then the rest um, but yeah, it's it's 02:38:01.780 --> 02:38:07.460 It's a lot, uh, but there's other stuff going on too. So i'm gonna need some of my notes here to explain some of this 02:38:07.620 --> 02:38:15.140 My first discussion question was Because these ai bots and we we've we've talked about this with the house fresh folks 02:38:15.620 --> 02:38:18.340 Because these ai bots are completely 02:38:18.980 --> 02:38:22.340 Or no, it wasn't house fresh. It was uh, the anantex shut down topic 02:38:22.980 --> 02:38:29.620 Um, so i was i was chatting with ryan. He was saying like a significant amount of their hosting cost is just 02:38:30.500 --> 02:38:34.020 Serving to scrapers 02:38:34.340 --> 02:38:39.940 Since they're so undiscerning in their scraping like and we know that the 02:38:40.820 --> 02:38:44.980 The majority of internet users visit just a handful of sites 02:38:45.940 --> 02:38:50.500 How much internet traffic? Oh, it's incredible. Do you think is just 02:38:51.380 --> 02:39:01.060 mindless bots Scraping sites that very few humans are actually interacting with like what is the what is the what is the 02:39:01.620 --> 02:39:04.740 The cost of all of this that's yeah, it's quite high 02:39:05.060 --> 02:39:11.940 It's it's interesting because like There is also a different line in my opinion because they're scraping in order to build a database or whatever 02:39:12.020 --> 02:39:15.060 But then there's also scraping on behalf of a user 02:39:15.700 --> 02:39:18.900 There's no way to differentiate that on the host side 02:39:19.620 --> 02:39:22.740 Uh, but you might have you might tell a bot like oh 02:39:23.220 --> 02:39:28.740 You set a bunch of stuff, but i need links for it and then it's going to go out and like search the internet and find things 02:39:29.220 --> 02:39:36.180 um, but Yeah, there's no way for us to tell what the difference is one of the really interesting ones that we've got 02:39:36.340 --> 02:39:43.380 Barely lingual and Floatplane chat says i work it with comedia. It's a lot. Yeah, it's it's a ton. Okay. Anyway, sorry go ahead 02:39:43.700 --> 02:39:46.500 Um, one of the interesting ones we have is this one 02:39:47.620 --> 02:39:51.540 There we go this chart the blue versus purple lines squiggles 02:39:51.700 --> 02:39:56.500 Um, I can't really get a good photo of this explaining what it all is but absorb that for a second 02:39:56.500 --> 02:40:01.300 Look at the dates when the blue and the purple line diverge. Yes sometime in april 02:40:02.180 --> 02:40:08.340 march Oh late march So the purple and the the purple is impressions 02:40:08.900 --> 02:40:10.900 The blue is clicks 02:40:12.420 --> 02:40:16.500 March 2025 was when ai's all ai results started rolling out in search 02:40:17.220 --> 02:40:20.660 Oh, yeah, yeah, we've kind of talked about this before i've had people say that 02:40:21.860 --> 02:40:29.700 The stuff you're quoting is like not Necessarily real because it's just like your idea of what might be happening. So I don't know 02:40:29.700 --> 02:40:33.380 Maybe this will help people accept that like, yeah, I know that's for sure happening 02:40:33.940 --> 02:40:36.820 um So we're getting brought up more 02:40:37.220 --> 02:40:45.540 but clicks are are You know the the big spikes are lower. You can tell there was like a massive spike in purple right around here 02:40:45.940 --> 02:40:50.340 Um, I don't know necessarily what happened, but whatever was interesting and searchable 02:40:50.900 --> 02:40:53.540 Didn't result in clicks and this is LTT Labs. Yeah 02:40:54.820 --> 02:40:58.980 Huh Something here happened that was really big. It got a little bit of a spike 02:40:59.220 --> 02:41:01.940 Yeah, it would probably be one of these bigger ones before 02:41:02.340 --> 02:41:08.180 But it was not as not as clickable same thing happens here. Wow, and then this one was like really massive 02:41:08.820 --> 02:41:14.740 I'm not entirely sure what this is. We could dive into it, but I don't know off top of my head what what that fully is 02:41:15.380 --> 02:41:19.540 And then the last one Oh, no, never mind. There's two more 02:41:21.220 --> 02:41:24.980 Oh, yeah, this one's kind of interesting uh 02:41:24.980 --> 02:41:28.100 The google one is skewed because 02:41:29.140 --> 02:41:35.060 Uh, just google in general is a little weird because how do you count google's stuff? 02:41:35.300 --> 02:41:40.500 Yeah, because they are search. Yeah, so the other ones are kind of more interesting like perplexity 02:41:40.900 --> 02:41:47.140 Over 15 000 requests with 23 total referrals. Right. Um, like there's no way that you can 02:41:47.460 --> 02:41:52.180 Profitably just even web host at that kind of ratio. It's it's pretty awesome 02:41:53.140 --> 02:41:56.100 It's pretty cool. And to be clear like, okay 02:41:57.380 --> 02:42:01.060 Calm down when I'm talking profitability 02:42:01.060 --> 02:42:05.220 I'm not going like corporate fat cat profitability here. I'm talking more like 02:42:06.100 --> 02:42:09.700 sustainability It's the death and consolidation of small websites 02:42:10.580 --> 02:42:14.580 Um Okay, back to luke lap top. There's the last one. Yeah, just some top referrals 02:42:14.580 --> 02:42:18.980 I think I think this this previous one is more interesting, but just showing this one as well 02:42:19.540 --> 02:42:25.860 Um duck duck go based duck duck go getting a lot more than bing was surprising and interesting to me 02:42:26.660 --> 02:42:34.420 I mean Yeah, for our audience that does kind of make sense. It does firefox users, you know, yeah 02:42:35.060 --> 02:42:39.300 Um, by the way matt uh from the lab's web team says by the way 02:42:39.700 --> 02:42:46.100 We do use all the anti AI meta tags and best practices to tell them not to scrape. They just completely ignore them 02:42:46.340 --> 02:42:48.900 Yeah, which we absolutely knew was going to be a thing. Yeah 02:42:49.860 --> 02:42:52.500 Which is why I set it on my show. We set it elsewhere 02:42:53.140 --> 02:43:00.100 Yeah, so we're not going to like, you know hire an entire team of anti AI experts to try to make our site less scrappable 02:43:00.900 --> 02:43:04.980 That's just not good use of our very limited resources 02:43:04.980 --> 02:43:11.060 But like I've had people directly reach out to me and be like, yeah Labs results ended up in like a chat gbt thing 02:43:11.140 --> 02:43:16.820 I was doing asking it questions and like It was useful enough that I didn't check the site and it's like well 02:43:18.420 --> 02:43:20.900 All right, that's how they get you. Yeah 02:43:23.940 --> 02:43:31.220 Yeah, I mean this this Genuinely explains how you know NVIDIA can keep selling more consumer gpus 02:43:31.300 --> 02:43:34.660 Which they report quarter after quarter growth in their gforce business 02:43:35.380 --> 02:43:42.660 But viewership on you know, how to pick a GPU video doesn't necessarily go up because if people are just using AI then 02:43:43.540 --> 02:43:46.900 That's all they need. Yes. I know about the humans dot txt initiative 02:43:46.900 --> 02:43:54.260 The problem is a lot of these things are just ignorable It's if you look at the incentives of what is happening and you're seeing the results of this in some places 02:43:54.500 --> 02:44:00.500 It really sucks for most people because what's going to end up happening is a bunch of sites are going to die 02:44:00.660 --> 02:44:03.220 And the ones that don't die are probably going to push 02:44:03.700 --> 02:44:06.500 heavier monetization models by putting 02:44:07.060 --> 02:44:12.020 Their interesting stuff behind paywalls. Yeah, that's going to be the only way they can survive 02:44:12.100 --> 02:44:16.500 I'm not even mad at them for it at this point. Yeah, they're they're doing what they have to do to survive 02:44:16.580 --> 02:44:20.580 We're we're lucky and also we 02:44:20.580 --> 02:44:25.860 We got to give ourselves credit for seeing the writing on the wall a long time ago and we've invested heavily in 02:44:26.820 --> 02:44:28.820 Hey 02:44:30.100 --> 02:44:34.420 By a onesie Make sure that we can keep doing the work we're doing 02:44:36.100 --> 02:44:45.460 Yeah, um But not everybody has that luxury of having other businesses to continue to support their media businesses through this very 02:44:46.180 --> 02:44:48.740 Very difficult period. I got to say a major 02:44:49.540 --> 02:44:53.700 sort of Growing up moment for me or not even moment 02:44:56.260 --> 02:45:00.580 But thing I've experienced over let's call it the last 10 years has been 02:45:01.620 --> 02:45:04.820 discovering to my dismay 02:45:04.820 --> 02:45:09.940 How much of the the general structure of the world was just 02:45:10.740 --> 02:45:15.940 and and order and stability was just built on like like norms 02:45:16.580 --> 02:45:19.540 and good faith engagement 02:45:19.620 --> 02:45:23.940 Rather than any kind of expectation of actual enforcement. That's still a thing 02:45:24.340 --> 02:45:27.460 It is still a thing but it's standards versus rules, right? 02:45:27.540 --> 02:45:32.500 If you if you can live off of standards, you will probably have a better group of people 02:45:32.660 --> 02:45:40.420 Yeah, but I feel like being the ability my expectation of being able to rely on standards and people to uphold them 02:45:41.140 --> 02:45:44.580 Is eroding. Oh, no for sure. I'm talking 02:45:45.220 --> 02:45:48.900 Super broadly here. I'm talking like corporate teams sports teams 02:45:49.620 --> 02:45:57.140 Groups of friends groups of people government countries whatever you want if it can if it can survive off of standards 02:45:57.780 --> 02:46:02.660 Um, that's like pretty much always better. This is the whole high trust versus low trust society thing 02:46:02.740 --> 02:46:07.300 Yeah, we talked about like if it is the standard of your society to be good to each other 02:46:07.860 --> 02:46:12.740 Um, then people will generally attempt to maintain that but the problem is that you have to 02:46:13.540 --> 02:46:18.420 The people themselves have to enforce that to a certain degree because you can't allow people to just 02:46:19.620 --> 02:46:24.420 Yeah, and and like authoritarian 02:46:25.300 --> 02:46:28.100 Enforcement is not the answer. No 02:46:28.660 --> 02:46:32.820 Um, well, that's kind of the whole idea. Yeah, the only way is you can go from 02:46:33.540 --> 02:46:38.740 from the bottom up upholding societal standards and I just feel like we're uh, 02:46:39.620 --> 02:46:42.340 I feel like we're in deep doo doo here. Oh, yeah, it's bad 02:46:42.820 --> 02:46:47.940 But but there's no consequences and so I don't even it's not even that there's no consequences 02:46:48.020 --> 02:46:53.620 You have you have this there's there's no consequences. They can completely ignore us saying please no 02:46:54.260 --> 02:46:58.660 And they win but and smaller companies get hurt by this and companies like 02:46:59.300 --> 02:47:06.580 Micron are able to bail out of consumer spaces for massively more high profit things that are sitting here profiting off of small groups like that 02:47:07.060 --> 02:47:10.420 artists Small publications book writers 02:47:11.300 --> 02:47:16.340 Whatever are all getting looted for all their stuff and it's all funneling up to these big companies 02:47:16.660 --> 02:47:24.820 And then they're what they're doing with that is making consumer spending more difficult because it's all being gathered up by big corporate spending like it's 02:47:25.940 --> 02:47:28.660 The the the the cycle is much more involved 02:47:29.060 --> 02:47:32.020 Um, then I think even doomers would like to think 02:47:33.300 --> 02:47:40.980 Is bad And to be clear like this is and this is a really kind of tough ones to to kind of wrap my brain around as I also 02:47:41.380 --> 02:47:45.300 I can understand why even maybe even especially 02:47:45.380 --> 02:47:50.660 At the bottom people are feeling so so jaded and so left out by this system 02:47:51.140 --> 02:47:54.740 That they're sitting here going well if they don't have to follow the rules then 02:47:55.460 --> 02:48:02.500 Why should I and they can end up harming each other a lot more than they end up harming our corporate overlord 02:48:02.580 --> 02:48:05.220 I strongly agree with that when it comes to dealing with them 02:48:05.860 --> 02:48:10.340 Uh, but ideally not each other Um 02:48:10.340 --> 02:48:13.620 Yeah Yeah 02:48:14.580 --> 02:48:20.180 Ah Evicus says that's how I feel about drug dealers 02:48:21.140 --> 02:48:28.100 like Yeah, to be clear I I don't want anyone to be a drug dealer 02:48:28.740 --> 02:48:33.620 I don't want anyone to have to be a drug dealer Is sort of another way of saying the same thing 02:48:34.420 --> 02:48:40.420 um And if someone was choosing between their family starving 02:48:41.140 --> 02:48:49.220 and dealing drugs I can at least I can at least understand I can try to empathize with their position 02:48:50.260 --> 02:48:54.500 I don't have to like it. I don't have to want that 02:48:54.500 --> 02:48:57.540 That choice or that outcome for myself or for anyone 02:48:58.340 --> 02:49:02.820 But you've got to at least um 02:49:04.900 --> 02:49:12.260 You've got to at least try To sort of put yourself in in their mindset and go okay, you know, why why did they make that choice and to be clear 02:49:12.340 --> 02:49:17.060 Not not everyone is doing it out of necessity. I don't buy that for a second 02:49:17.700 --> 02:49:21.940 um But at least some seem to be pretty stuck 02:49:24.100 --> 02:49:26.100 Ah 02:49:27.540 --> 02:49:31.620 Cool very fun good chat, um 02:49:36.100 --> 02:49:40.980 I I have just been sent some pictures of my uh christmas party costume 02:49:41.220 --> 02:49:45.060 I won't include the one when i'm standing a lighter topic. Yeah, exactly 02:49:45.220 --> 02:49:53.780 I won't include the one when i'm standing in the venue because there's other people in the background I know we we don't do that, uh, but I am going to include some of the photos of the actual get-up 02:49:53.780 --> 02:49:57.460 I'm just not wearing it in these photos um 02:49:57.460 --> 02:50:01.620 Christmas Uh, do you want me to do another thing in the meantime? Do you need a minute? 02:50:02.260 --> 02:50:05.780 I should be like oh, why don't I get through sponsors 10 seconds, but yeah, I'll just be ready when you're done 02:50:05.780 --> 02:50:08.260 Yeah, sure. All right. 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Yeah, so I always mentioned that I was tall grass 02:53:02.740 --> 02:53:07.060 So my original idea which was maybe okay, but not very good 02:53:07.300 --> 02:53:12.660 Was that I'd get a light green colored shirt and some dark green fabric markers and just like 02:53:13.060 --> 02:53:19.780 Basically draw in a bunch of blades of grass which because of the alternating colors of green would make it look like 02:53:20.820 --> 02:53:28.180 a bunch of different blades of grass But then Emma got involved and made it way better. So now it was like I was basically wearing a diorama 02:53:28.900 --> 02:53:34.260 so There's a bunch of Pokemon trainers in the tall grass and the tall grass was these like 02:53:34.660 --> 02:53:37.700 Little 3d things that were glued onto the shirt and there was 02:53:38.500 --> 02:53:43.300 These are totally butterfree's and not random butterfly things bought from a craft store 02:53:43.700 --> 02:53:51.060 I did a little text box Because you you got an encounter with this particular trainer and they like shorts because they're comfy and easy to wear 02:53:51.060 --> 02:53:56.660 Which is it based? And then there's the hat which the hat was was wild 02:53:58.020 --> 02:54:03.060 It was again a little diorama this time with with actual pokemon involved. I didn't know it had a little character 02:54:03.700 --> 02:54:11.060 Yeah, there's little little mini sleeping All the all the gen one starters including the the pikachu from yellow 02:54:11.780 --> 02:54:15.620 All just having a little nap on top of the hat with some little mushrooms 02:54:15.780 --> 02:54:18.820 There's a mushroom pokemon moral that came later on 02:54:19.700 --> 02:54:22.580 A little wooden stump and stuff. This is actually a white hat 02:54:23.140 --> 02:54:30.180 Um that she tried to paint some like grass kind of texture onto which was wild and then there's another 02:54:30.980 --> 02:54:33.460 Angle of it here. It was quite the thing to wear 02:54:35.140 --> 02:54:40.420 But it was awesome Yeah, it was cool. Emma Emma did all that 02:54:41.380 --> 02:54:43.380 It was fantastic 02:54:45.620 --> 02:54:47.620 Secret level 02:54:49.300 --> 02:54:55.940 Shh Okay, good call. Good call. Good call. I'm gonna no, I'm gonna leave it where it was actually you might not notice 02:54:56.260 --> 02:54:59.460 I was thinking of turning it like that, but then I think the act of turning the chair might 02:55:00.260 --> 02:55:05.540 Make him notice. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. Uh, good call everyone. Good call. Good call. All right. Let's see 02:55:06.100 --> 02:55:09.300 What do we have? We should be talking about something. Is there I can do another topic? 02:55:09.460 --> 02:55:12.180 Sure. Yeah, you got the crawler one. That's good 02:55:12.820 --> 02:55:16.740 AWS and google cloud. Yeah, where's that underneath it? 02:55:16.980 --> 02:55:20.420 No, no, it's aws and google cloud interconnect announcement 02:55:20.980 --> 02:55:28.020 Really part of this announcement is the introduction of an open source API to allow other cloud providers to adopt 02:55:28.660 --> 02:55:30.900 simplified connectivity for everyone 02:55:33.300 --> 02:55:39.540 What uh discussion question we have seen in the last few months that these giant cloud services can effectively disable sections of the internet 02:55:39.540 --> 02:55:44.180 When they go down to yes, how do you think introducing a new standard like this will affect the industry moving forward? 02:55:44.180 --> 02:55:50.900 Well, I don't know what the standard is Totally fake arthur said that is actually super sick. It's crazy 02:55:54.420 --> 02:55:56.420 Sort of nvlink, it's aglink 02:55:58.100 --> 02:56:01.700 I would like to know more. I feel like this maybe should have actually had some notes 02:56:04.100 --> 02:56:10.980 AWS announces preview of aws interconnect multi cloud providing oh interesting 02:56:12.580 --> 02:56:14.580 That'll be really expensive 02:56:16.180 --> 02:56:20.820 Multi cloud providing simple resilient high speed private connections to other cloud service providers 02:56:21.220 --> 02:56:24.420 Starting in preview with google cloud. Okay, that is very interesting 02:56:24.820 --> 02:56:28.980 Uh, I do really have to wonder how expensive that will be 02:56:29.540 --> 02:56:32.500 I think it's going to be prohibitively expensive for a lot of 02:56:33.300 --> 02:56:37.300 places But we will see 02:56:37.300 --> 02:56:42.580 Easy cloud migrations. Yeah, I mean I get it now I just didn't fully understand it immediately from the 02:56:43.380 --> 02:56:46.020 Uh, the notes I shouldn't have paid more attention to the title 02:56:46.740 --> 02:56:57.060 Um Yeah, I don't have access to that cool. Nice. Um, yeah, I mean that sounds cool interesting resilient. Um, 02:56:57.780 --> 02:57:01.460 But also probably very expensive and we'll see how that goes 02:57:03.300 --> 02:57:09.540 Hmm You literally had to pay people to run actual wires in the data center before yeah, I mean you're still doing that 02:57:09.780 --> 02:57:14.740 It's just being obfuscated from you That is totally still happening 02:57:17.700 --> 02:57:23.380 I don't know. I don't know guys A lot of this cloud stuff is very expensive and like doubling it is also going to be very expensive 02:57:23.540 --> 02:57:27.700 It will be really nice for resiliency though certain services will benefit from that a lot, but 02:57:28.420 --> 02:57:35.540 I think if you're expecting like everyone to do that, uh, it's it's going to be too much for a lot of places 02:57:36.900 --> 02:57:39.220 Okay, did you get the google one? 02:57:40.180 --> 02:57:44.500 Hmm Google has removed the call home 02:57:45.620 --> 02:57:47.620 Yes, we did we did talk about that one 02:57:48.980 --> 02:57:53.780 Uh New robots look like they could kick my butt. Okay. These are cool 02:57:53.940 --> 02:57:58.180 Engine ai released a video showing off the new t800 robot. Totally not a ripoff 02:57:58.500 --> 02:58:03.700 Uh, it's surprisingly agile. It performs a bunch of martial arts moves like front kicks and roundhouse kicks 02:58:04.100 --> 02:58:07.300 Uh, despite the no a g i sorry 02:58:07.540 --> 02:58:10.180 No ai slash c g i in the bottom left hand of the clip 02:58:10.580 --> 02:58:16.820 Many comments don't believe it unitary responded with their own video a day later showing off the h2 robot. Hold on. Hold on 02:58:16.820 --> 02:58:26.420 Can we look at this first? Yes Yeah, that looks like uh, this one look real at all billion percent looks like cgi. Yeah, that doesn't look real at all 02:58:26.420 --> 02:58:28.420 Hold on. Hold on. Let's see. Let's see. Hold on 02:58:29.460 --> 02:58:37.300 Even like the lighting and stuff Yeah, I don't I don't even sort of believe this 02:58:38.500 --> 02:58:40.500 Uh 02:58:41.940 --> 02:58:44.820 If you're going to if you're gonna make that claim 02:58:46.500 --> 02:58:50.900 Why would you shoot it like this? Yeah, that's that's why it's so strange 02:58:50.900 --> 02:58:57.060 Hold on. Why doesn't the human ever interact with the robot and they're like faces covered with a hood the whole time 02:58:57.140 --> 02:59:00.420 Well, no, that's fine. I don't mind that because that human is probably there 02:59:00.820 --> 02:59:04.740 But they never they never touch each other. You notice that? 02:59:07.540 --> 02:59:14.020 Yeah Like like when unitary does demos and stuff they'll like they'll they'll like kick the robot and stuff 02:59:14.020 --> 02:59:17.700 Oh, you can see them there. No, no, I mean, but they never touch each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 02:59:18.100 --> 02:59:20.660 Do they ever cross over even they get really close? 02:59:23.940 --> 02:59:30.100 This is the weirdest shot video ever it could be a stunt. Wow. Yeah, it looks too good 02:59:30.420 --> 02:59:37.380 I don't believe that it's this good Um, but it could be a oh man. This is the fakest looking video ever dude 02:59:37.540 --> 02:59:40.500 Like why would you shoot it to look fake? 02:59:41.220 --> 02:59:45.780 Uh, this is what I was saying is I could see it be a strategy where they're trying to get people to claim that 02:59:45.780 --> 02:59:50.500 It's not fake so then they can prove that it's real later. Sorry claim that it is fake so they can prove it 02:59:50.500 --> 02:59:55.620 It's real later the one time anyone touches the robot. It's not moving. It's not moving 02:59:56.900 --> 02:59:58.900 It's I don't even think it's on 03:00:01.380 --> 03:00:10.180 That is the most BS looking thing ever and this this looks more like the robot actually doing stuff. Yeah 03:00:14.900 --> 03:00:16.900 And then this suddenly super doesn't 03:00:20.660 --> 03:00:23.860 Okay, anyway, okay, so this is engine ai. Yeah, I don't know about that one 03:00:23.860 --> 03:00:28.820 Okay, and then unitary responded with their own video a day later showing off the h2 robot 03:00:29.700 --> 03:00:36.260 Their video starts with the 1.8 meter tall humanoid robot beating up a much smaller robot 03:00:36.740 --> 03:00:40.020 Then it spars with a person and a bigger robot 03:00:44.820 --> 03:00:52.260 See this also looks kind of fake except okay, there's actually people back here and when we move on 03:00:52.660 --> 03:01:01.460 It's one feels a lot more real they actually interact with the robot it feels a lot more real 03:01:02.500 --> 03:01:06.420 Even a lot of the movements like it's surprisingly fluid, but it still has like the classic 03:01:07.220 --> 03:01:11.140 Robotics like, you know, oh, I am unstable. I will run 03:01:11.620 --> 03:01:14.820 You know algorithm thing to figure out how to become stable again 03:01:15.060 --> 03:01:18.340 Yeah, like little things like that that little like struggle. Ooh 03:01:18.980 --> 03:01:22.500 That feels a lot more legit. Oh, yeah 100% 03:01:24.580 --> 03:01:27.860 Uh, that looked legitimately dangerous being in the ring with this thing 03:01:28.740 --> 03:01:33.620 Like if it connected on one of these roundhouse kicks took this out. Oh, no, not this one. Never mind. Hold on 03:01:34.260 --> 03:01:41.220 Here it is like if it had connected with that kick Yeah, I could suck that would have freaking hurt. I would suck like maybe injury hurt 03:01:42.020 --> 03:01:44.580 Anyway, unitary just can't stop winning man 03:01:45.220 --> 03:01:47.220 Like they 03:01:48.740 --> 03:01:56.820 Crazy the whole industry is moving so fast that it would be impossible to tell us which horse is gonna or horse says more likely 03:01:57.220 --> 03:02:02.420 Are gonna win this race based on those videos. I don't think engine ai is because I don't think they have a horse 03:02:04.100 --> 03:02:10.260 Um I don't know that video is just so fake looking. It's ridiculous. Yeah 03:02:10.500 --> 03:02:15.540 Like look at the lighting that would have been required for this intro 03:02:15.860 --> 03:02:23.220 Hold on. Apparently the engineer it 800 video has behind the scenes that's been released as a response to the fake CGI comments 03:02:24.020 --> 03:02:26.020 All right, let's have a look 03:02:27.140 --> 03:02:31.620 Okay Okay, that looked more awkward 03:02:32.020 --> 03:02:37.460 Okay, hold on. Let's see Hold on. Oh, wait. Okay. This guy this guy is moving 03:02:38.340 --> 03:02:42.340 Okay, they've got this doesn't do much to make me believe it. I'm just saying 03:02:45.460 --> 03:02:49.940 That helped a little that's not the take that's in the video. No, it's not 03:02:53.940 --> 03:02:55.940 Okay, yeah 03:02:57.700 --> 03:03:01.700 Uh I 03:03:05.940 --> 03:03:08.900 Want to see someone interact with this stupid robot 03:03:21.780 --> 03:03:25.380 Hold on. Hold on. Is it gonna touch something? Wait, what is buddy here doing? 03:03:29.700 --> 03:03:31.700 Oh, okay, that's an action cam 03:03:32.900 --> 03:03:34.900 I'm still skeptical 03:03:36.820 --> 03:03:41.540 Show me it doing something not badass. That's what I want 03:03:49.380 --> 03:03:56.580 Hold on. Wait, I want to go back to that one for a second. So where's the sun? Okay 03:03:59.940 --> 03:04:03.860 Man, this looks so fake touch it. Somebody touch the robot 03:04:05.460 --> 03:04:08.740 See this this is convincing, but again, it's then it cuts 03:04:09.780 --> 03:04:15.460 I don't know dude. Ah, I don't know dude. I'm I'm not very convinced right now 03:04:24.020 --> 03:04:26.020 Okay, I still don't believe it 03:04:29.940 --> 03:04:36.020 I don't know. What do you guys think? What do you guys think did this help at all? 03:04:38.900 --> 03:04:41.540 Oh man, a lot of people saying the the behind the scenes 03:04:42.260 --> 03:04:44.580 Uh makes it look even more fake 03:04:46.500 --> 03:04:54.820 Oh I I don't know I would I need to see a human interacting. I'm also not like like I said 03:04:55.380 --> 03:04:58.900 It it felt like a move where they wanted people to say that it looked fake 03:04:59.140 --> 03:05:04.500 So that they could try to prove that it wasn't fake and the non behind the scenes video is only three days old 03:05:04.660 --> 03:05:11.300 And they have the behind the scenes cut already out I feel like they're just trying to get in news headlines right now and they succeeded 03:05:12.020 --> 03:05:16.740 You think so? That's my vibe check That's some pretty good 4d chess 03:05:17.220 --> 03:05:23.620 It feels very planned out though. Yeah, I don't sure. Yeah, I mean you plan when you play 4d chess 03:05:24.820 --> 03:05:26.820 That's like the whole idea 03:05:32.500 --> 03:05:38.340 Yeah, I do okay seriously scooby-free says the old push it back with uh with a broom test 03:05:38.420 --> 03:05:42.980 Yeah, I want to see that I want to see it like it's it's they're one day apart 03:05:43.460 --> 03:05:46.820 I want to see it failing to do a bunch of the like spinning kicks 03:05:46.900 --> 03:05:50.740 It's not just that this video is three days old. This one's only two days old 03:05:51.220 --> 03:05:54.180 Yeah, I will oh no, that's immediately afterwards. That's true enough 03:05:54.260 --> 03:06:00.260 But like it's not like that took a lot of editing to do like they just chops together some some footage 03:06:00.980 --> 03:06:06.900 Yeah, like what what's they've got a bunch of other stuff on their channel setting the record straight on cgi rumors 03:06:07.060 --> 03:06:10.020 I I really think it's it's a publicity thing 03:06:11.540 --> 03:06:16.740 Like have they ever done anything in the past hold on uh searching for their channel didn't bring it up for me 03:06:16.820 --> 03:06:20.420 Can you can you bring up their channel again? Uh, yeah. Oh wait. No, I found it down 03:06:21.700 --> 03:06:26.580 Like they've got a whole bunch of videos on their on their channel like do any of these other ones 03:06:29.140 --> 03:06:31.140 Nice 03:06:35.140 --> 03:06:37.140 Like this looks 03:06:41.220 --> 03:06:47.220 This looks more believable hit it with a broom interact with it directly 03:06:47.220 --> 03:06:52.180 I Dare you touch it one touch it speed touch it 03:06:55.620 --> 03:07:00.420 I mean, yeah that that looked a lot more realistic more realistic 03:07:02.420 --> 03:07:06.900 Ah Okay, well 03:07:07.060 --> 03:07:12.420 When was this anyway? I hate how hard it is to just find the stupid 03:07:13.380 --> 03:07:18.500 Details. Okay. Yeah, you got to go find the hamburger menu and menu then click description. So that was in april of this year 03:07:19.380 --> 03:07:23.060 You know what? Let's see. Let's see how it goes. I um 03:07:23.700 --> 03:07:29.060 I I agree with luke that they're obviously playing a get-in headlines game. Yeah 03:07:31.460 --> 03:07:37.220 Until until I see something that doesn't look quite as polished and staged and 03:07:38.180 --> 03:07:42.420 um And as devoid of real material 03:07:43.380 --> 03:07:48.740 Interactions as even the behind the scenes here I'm going to find this pretty darn hard to believe 03:07:48.820 --> 03:07:53.060 And if they like hard scripted a bunch of movements that do look that good 03:07:53.140 --> 03:07:59.860 And that's why some of these standard walking scenes look dramatically lower tech than the like martial arts scenes 03:08:00.020 --> 03:08:04.340 Where they're like moving much more like you would expect and then suddenly they're like fluid and dynamic 03:08:05.860 --> 03:08:08.260 Maybe but like a lot of these things it looks like 03:08:08.900 --> 03:08:12.500 The like metal is almost bending in a way that like 03:08:13.460 --> 03:08:18.420 A human doing these types of movements would would flex and bend when it like collides with the ground and stuff 03:08:18.740 --> 03:08:20.740 And then you suddenly see the walking scenes is like 03:08:22.340 --> 03:08:25.540 Like I just I don't know I have a hard time believing it at all 03:08:25.620 --> 03:08:30.980 But if it is like hard scripted to happen specifically in like that room in that setting 03:08:31.220 --> 03:08:35.060 With that floor material and all that kind of stuff. Maybe they've got something 03:08:35.380 --> 03:08:38.980 Maybe it's never useful to anyone really but like, okay 03:08:39.780 --> 03:08:42.900 maybe Yeah, I 03:08:45.140 --> 03:08:51.620 I'm gonna wait I'm gonna wait before just pronouncing this to be fake and before pronouncing this to be real 03:08:52.420 --> 03:08:57.060 I'm not saying this as a fact, but I'm I'm definitely siding on the it's fake side 03:08:57.540 --> 03:09:01.700 And if it isn't fake then I mean hell yeah, I'm gonna say it looks like I'll power to him 03:09:01.780 --> 03:09:05.780 It for sure looks fake and then and then again this part 03:09:06.900 --> 03:09:11.620 Like it might not all be fake this part seems like it could be legitimate 03:09:12.260 --> 03:09:14.660 This movement all seems pretty normal 03:09:15.460 --> 03:09:21.140 Yep Very kind of often one motor at a time and then we're back to nah 03:09:26.180 --> 03:09:34.820 Yep fair enough, um Anyways, we don't have any other like real topics, but there were a couple other things to talk about my uh 03:09:34.820 --> 03:09:41.300 My son started the 3d printing business. Yeah, you're doing a video for that, right? Yeah, like has to be yeah 03:09:41.380 --> 03:09:48.500 That's amazing. Yeah, I've heard the story behind this and it's incredible. I uh, I took a I took a picture of him last night 03:09:48.980 --> 03:09:54.340 um Because he's actually the the first teenager that I've ever met in my entire life 03:09:54.740 --> 03:09:58.900 Who's like the king of just getting a good night's sleep and you know 03:09:59.940 --> 03:10:07.140 Being fresh in the morning um And so this is this is really unusual for him 03:10:07.700 --> 03:10:13.300 Uh, but he was like up really late last night and so I got home from the christmas party. I was like 03:10:14.340 --> 03:10:18.980 I went to say good night to all of the kids and make sure that they were in bed 03:10:19.540 --> 03:10:25.860 And um, so my daughters were in bed and I was like that's good and I went to pop my head into my son's room 03:10:26.500 --> 03:10:28.980 And I was like good night boy, and then 03:10:29.940 --> 03:10:32.260 You're not in here. Oh lights on in your bathroom 03:10:33.460 --> 03:10:41.620 You're you're not in there either. Where the heck is he? I'm like, is he in the mechanical room again because he has been spending so much of his time down in the mechanical room 03:10:42.180 --> 03:10:47.620 And uh, Dan, I just sent you a picture And this is the scene that I walked in on 03:10:48.980 --> 03:10:54.420 I have never been prouder hell yeah Um, what are what are so what are those christmas trees? 03:10:54.900 --> 03:11:01.220 Uh, there are little fidget toys that are two spiral things that kind of yeah go together 03:11:01.460 --> 03:11:05.780 He has like a an entrepreneurship fair coming up at the school 03:11:05.940 --> 03:11:11.620 And so he's bringing the the ones on the the bamboo that are closer to us are those little 03:11:12.260 --> 03:11:19.620 infinite fold fidget cubes Um, and so he's bringing a bunch of like pre-printed stuff and then also promoting his 03:11:20.340 --> 03:11:24.500 like Choose your own uh 3d printing business. So he's been 03:11:25.220 --> 03:11:30.500 Yeah, you can take it down now. So he's been learning a whole bunch of so based like 3d printing 03:11:30.500 --> 03:11:35.060 so he's learning about different filaments and like the different temperatures and odors and 03:11:35.460 --> 03:11:42.420 Off-gassing and like just sort of all this various stuff. He keeps asking me to like buy more filament and i'm have you got him into flexible stuff yet? 03:11:42.500 --> 03:11:44.500 Not yet. Um 03:11:45.780 --> 03:11:53.620 We Have some but most of the orders that he's getting are not for stuff that uses it and right now 03:11:53.620 --> 03:11:56.580 He's having a hard time keeping up just with what people are requesting 03:11:57.140 --> 03:12:03.860 Uh, let alone going and just like exploring and finding interesting things to go and doesn't have to do as much product development yet 03:12:04.180 --> 03:12:11.620 Um, we're we're i'm trying to i'm trying to find a way to make him actually sort of think about the nuts and bolts of how to make 03:12:11.620 --> 03:12:15.220 This a business but not make it just you know 03:12:15.860 --> 03:12:22.340 Uh impossible to overcome because other than like sports. He's had a hard time finding like a hobby 03:12:22.820 --> 03:12:27.460 Up until now. He loves gaming. He loves sports, but you can only play so many video games a day 03:12:27.860 --> 03:12:33.380 Sorry, it's not that's not you're not going to be an esports pro not in my house. Um, it's just not going to happen 03:12:34.020 --> 03:12:38.900 Um, and you you can only do much so much physical activity before your body just 03:12:39.380 --> 03:12:46.980 Must recover and that's actually a healthy thing to do. And so he uh, so he's finally he's finally done it. He's like 03:12:47.940 --> 03:12:50.500 Super dialed in so the 03:12:51.380 --> 03:12:54.020 The balance that I I think I found is that 03:12:54.820 --> 03:12:57.700 He has to pay me for filament by the weight that he uses 03:12:59.300 --> 03:13:03.380 Interesting is that so is that true when he's selling product, but not if he's making it for himself 03:13:03.620 --> 03:13:07.540 Um, he doesn't make anything for himself. He doesn't care. He does not do like 03:13:08.100 --> 03:13:12.660 Gadgets and stuff. He like dude, we'll go to we'll go to disneyland as a family 03:13:12.740 --> 03:13:16.180 I kid you not And the whole weekend 03:13:16.180 --> 03:13:22.100 The girls are like hounding us for some princess thing or some dress or some wand or some balloon or whatever 03:13:22.740 --> 03:13:29.540 Um, actually, I shouldn't I should give them more credit than that once they grew up a little bit neither of them would hound us 03:13:30.340 --> 03:13:35.780 But we do have sort of the rule in our house that they learn is that when we go on vacation 03:13:35.860 --> 03:13:40.260 You can have one souvenir Don't bother us about it 03:13:40.420 --> 03:13:47.380 At the end Keep your eyes open and then at the end let us know and if it's something within the budget that we set 03:13:47.460 --> 03:13:51.940 Then that's one and that's and the don't bug us past that is sort of the rule that we have 03:13:52.500 --> 03:13:56.260 um But anyway, so the girls will have their eyes out and they'll be like 03:13:56.740 --> 03:14:01.860 Chitter-chattering at each other about what they like and oh if we each get one of these then we can play that together 03:14:01.860 --> 03:14:06.180 And And at the end we'll be like 03:14:06.180 --> 03:14:09.860 Okay, we've done we've done our shopping for the girls boy. Do you want anything and be like no 03:14:10.820 --> 03:14:13.940 That you sure like they they have build your own lightsaber. No 03:14:14.740 --> 03:14:18.820 They have like here's the thing you could put on your wall. No, I got stuff on my wall 03:14:19.700 --> 03:14:25.300 All right All right, that's cool. He's just he's really not materialistic. Anyway, um 03:14:26.340 --> 03:14:28.820 So we charge him for filament by the weight that he uses 03:14:29.380 --> 03:14:32.420 Not by the spools that we order. So if there's like a color he needs 03:14:32.980 --> 03:14:40.020 I'll just order it And then I'm like the like bulk distributor. Yeah, he only has to like pay for what he uses 03:14:40.180 --> 03:14:44.340 I think that's pretty reasonable seems all right. And then if he needs any other materials 03:14:45.140 --> 03:14:49.780 That's his problem. So he placed his first order with McMaster car last week. Nice 03:14:49.940 --> 03:14:53.940 He ordered some magnets and some like m2 screws 03:14:54.340 --> 03:14:58.020 And he's using it to make a little rubber band guns and I told him 03:14:59.220 --> 03:15:01.220 No black ones 03:15:04.020 --> 03:15:07.620 Yeah, that's a specific no black guns 03:15:08.740 --> 03:15:14.180 So the first one he made was like in lilac. That's a canadian legal thing just for anyone. Yeah 03:15:15.300 --> 03:15:20.660 Do not 3d print a black gun racist and take it to school. Okay. Oh my god 03:15:22.580 --> 03:15:25.620 He's talking. Oh man, it's not racist 03:15:25.940 --> 03:15:30.180 Stop They know they know they're just teasing when you come down 03:15:31.460 --> 03:15:35.300 So the first one he made was in like lilac and I was like, yes 03:15:36.260 --> 03:15:40.340 approved But like 03:15:40.340 --> 03:15:47.540 He intended to make the first one in black. Yeah, of course. I was like boy. I do not want a letter from the school about this 03:15:48.580 --> 03:15:51.700 Please for the love of all that is good. It's gonna be a letter from the government 03:15:51.860 --> 03:15:57.300 Oh And so and he's also making these like cool flipping. They have to be like, oh my goodness 03:15:57.780 --> 03:16:03.700 Make them in fun. They need to be fish or price colors. Yes. Make them in fun toy colors. That's all I ask. Yeah 03:16:04.420 --> 03:16:08.420 um, yeah so 03:16:08.900 --> 03:16:12.660 Anyway, where was uh, where was I going with this? Um, yes 03:16:13.060 --> 03:16:20.980 So he's got his oh, yeah, right, right, right, right, right, right So he needed like these m2 screws and um and magnets because it's got it's got kind of a cool element to the design 03:16:20.980 --> 03:16:25.860 Where you glue in some magnets and it has like a removable magazine the magazine doesn't do anything 03:16:25.940 --> 03:16:31.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you print out two mags and it comes on a couple mags and they like magnet in and whatever right like kids kids 03:16:31.780 --> 03:16:38.580 Love that stuff. It's a toy. Yeah, exactly. That's why it's not black. Um, so we um 03:16:39.860 --> 03:16:45.220 So he ordered that and he's like, yeah the the shipping cost is so high. I'm like, yep 03:16:45.300 --> 03:16:48.340 He's like, I can't buy just two m2 screws. I'm like, nope 03:16:48.580 --> 03:16:56.900 He's like, I'm gonna have to sell like six of these and I'm like, yep And so that's why I want to have him like paying for some of his. Yeah, no, that's cool. I don't charge him for machine time 03:16:57.860 --> 03:17:02.340 I think I've decided now. I'm not gonna charge him for any like upgrades to the machines 03:17:02.740 --> 03:17:05.460 So the print farm he gets free time on it 03:17:05.940 --> 03:17:08.900 As long as he shares with his sisters because they like to print toys for themselves 03:17:08.980 --> 03:17:15.220 Neither of them are really selling things at this point. Um, and then he has to pay by fulfillment by weight that he only 03:17:15.220 --> 03:17:20.100 What he uses and then anything else that he needs to make like cool designs and stuff 03:17:20.100 --> 03:17:29.140 That seems extremely reasonable at this point And then Yvonne's really encouraging him to start tracking all of his expenses and all of his revenues in a spreadsheet to make sure 03:17:29.540 --> 03:17:37.060 That he's like paying himself At least a break even and hopefully like like an amount of money that's worth it because as you could see 03:17:37.540 --> 03:17:40.340 He's spending a lot of time on this now. It's a mess right now 03:17:40.900 --> 03:17:44.020 And the first thing he said when I walked in the room was I'll clean it up tomorrow 03:17:44.500 --> 03:17:52.020 I was like, honestly I'm not even mad. Yes do clean it up tomorrow, but I'm not even mad about this 03:17:52.420 --> 03:17:55.540 Last night I was in the bath and he came in and interrupted me three times 03:17:55.940 --> 03:17:59.940 Because there a bunch of filament got stuck on the outside of one of the hot ends 03:18:00.420 --> 03:18:03.460 And he was like trying to swap out for another nozzle 03:18:03.860 --> 03:18:10.020 And he was like working on extracting the ceramic heating element and like putting the temperature probe in and a bunch of like 03:18:10.020 --> 03:18:15.140 PEGG filament had gotten kind of stuck on it and they ended he ended up breaking it and I'm just like 03:18:16.420 --> 03:18:22.900 I'm not even mad This is honestly like such a proud dad moment right now. I will buy you a new heating element 03:18:23.220 --> 03:18:28.340 I don't even care right now. Yeah, I'm just so glad that for the first time in your life 03:18:28.980 --> 03:18:32.820 you are like dialed the f*** in 03:18:33.460 --> 03:18:40.980 learning this stuff And and like highly interested in it. So he accidentally ordered slightly the wrong size magnets 03:18:41.060 --> 03:18:47.940 Or rather McMaster car was an imperial and the file was in was in uh metric. No, this is great 03:18:47.940 --> 03:18:55.220 That's a good lesson because because uh, my daughter my middle child is actually more 03:18:55.780 --> 03:18:58.580 interested in learning the modeling side and so 03:18:59.620 --> 03:19:07.720 They don't always interact a ton There's a couple year age gap and there's the gender gap. The gender gap is big and kids 03:19:08.200 --> 03:19:11.080 Socially will tend to be like water or electricity 03:19:11.400 --> 03:19:14.600 They will they will take the path of least resistance very often 03:19:15.000 --> 03:19:20.920 So when the two girls are a pretty similar age gap and the girl and the boy are a pretty similar age gap 03:19:21.080 --> 03:19:24.600 There's a tendency for the two girls to just do girly things together 03:19:24.920 --> 03:19:27.640 And for my son to be kind of left out 03:19:28.120 --> 03:19:36.600 And so that was such a cool parent moment When she helped him with it this strategic decision that I made a year ago because I don't know if you remember this 03:19:36.600 --> 03:19:41.800 But the 3d printer was a christmas present for the whole family with with an ulterior motive 03:19:42.360 --> 03:19:47.640 Right. I wanted them to learn this stuff. I was going to help them with it until I stopped 03:19:48.840 --> 03:19:52.280 Until they got into it enough that when I stopped they'd be motivated to keep it going 03:19:52.680 --> 03:20:00.040 And anyway, it was really cool to see them work together and figure out how to modify the model to make the magnets that he ordered work 03:20:00.520 --> 03:20:05.560 It was like, ah proud parent moment. Let's go. Super cool. Yeah. Um, yeah, so 03:20:06.920 --> 03:20:10.200 I I did warn my son. I was like, okay, you do need to keep this like 03:20:10.840 --> 03:20:16.680 Kind of low profile because otherwise the school could tell you that you're like not allowed to do it anymore 03:20:17.160 --> 03:20:22.840 That did happen at my there's some kid at my school that had a locker full of like snacks and stuff that he would sell 03:20:23.320 --> 03:20:26.040 And he got shot down. So the school 03:20:26.840 --> 03:20:31.560 Did send out a memo about a week after I warned him because because he was like, oh, yeah 03:20:31.560 --> 03:20:36.040 I'm gonna like have a bunch of them like hanging off my bag and I'm gonna put a sign on my backpack 03:20:36.280 --> 03:20:38.600 I know so so 03:20:39.400 --> 03:20:43.560 Um, they sent out a memo to their credit. They were actually pretty chill about it 03:20:44.120 --> 03:20:49.400 Not because this is for the entrepreneurship fair like this is what he was doing in that picture is official school business 03:20:49.480 --> 03:20:55.880 Yeah, um, he's also selling snow cones. So Yvonne helped him with that side of it and I've been helping him with the 3d printer side 03:20:56.360 --> 03:21:01.320 Um, and so that's like, uh, that's like an officially sanctioned thing during school hours 03:21:01.400 --> 03:21:09.000 And then for the for the just like on the side stuff Basically what they said was look you can't exchange money during school hours or on school property 03:21:09.960 --> 03:21:16.600 You can talk about it or on school property Yeah, but that's fine because you can just step one step off of walk 03:21:17.640 --> 03:21:23.240 out during lunch Because you said or both. Okay, and yeah, and okay 03:21:23.480 --> 03:21:28.440 So so basically they could just they just have to like arrange to meet after school 03:21:29.080 --> 03:21:34.440 And I was like, you know what? That's actually pretty chill. They're not like you can't talk about it at all 03:21:34.600 --> 03:21:40.360 You can't they didn't like ban 3d printed fidget toys. That seems reasonable to me. That seems perfectly 03:21:40.760 --> 03:21:44.120 Totally reasonable. So I told him during the entrepreneurship fair 03:21:44.440 --> 03:21:47.240 He should not only sell the fidget toys and stuff 03:21:47.640 --> 03:21:50.600 But he should 3d print like little like challenge coins 03:21:51.080 --> 03:21:54.120 That just have like his name and his grade or something 03:21:54.520 --> 03:22:00.120 Just so that people like know because that's super cheap. So that's a marketing expense and just give them out 03:22:00.200 --> 03:22:04.760 So now you're teaching him about That's sick 03:22:04.760 --> 03:22:10.360 Teaching business What would be kind of neat is if you got them to print some stuff that might be 03:22:11.320 --> 03:22:15.880 Interesting for I'm assuming this Business fair whatever thing 03:22:16.440 --> 03:22:19.880 It's not just kids, right? Parents are going to 03:22:19.880 --> 03:22:22.440 Uh, no, it's just kids. Oh, okay. Yeah, never mind then 03:22:22.920 --> 03:22:26.680 I was gonna say if there was parents going I would like print some stuff that they might be interested in as well 03:22:26.840 --> 03:22:33.000 Then they could place orders through the kids Then it might get shut down 03:22:34.200 --> 03:22:40.680 That would be sick. All it takes is one parent to complain. Oh my god. He could set up a really basic website 03:22:41.480 --> 03:22:45.400 And just have it be like that you reserve an order and then he could bring it 03:22:46.040 --> 03:22:50.040 to school Technically the sale happened through the website 03:22:50.120 --> 03:22:54.760 He's thought of that and he has a classmate that wants to build the website for him and like partner with him 03:22:54.840 --> 03:22:59.880 and I'm just like I'm not going to interfere with that because I think he could probably do it himself 03:23:00.360 --> 03:23:05.640 But I want the classmate to learn too and I want them both to learn that going into business together has advantages 03:23:05.800 --> 03:23:12.680 About that and disadvantages and relationships are complicated and sometimes can be very fruitful and sometimes can be very challenging 03:23:13.080 --> 03:23:17.000 these are all just things that like 03:23:17.080 --> 03:23:22.680 I was a decade from starting to learn when I was his age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right like yeah, yeah 03:23:23.160 --> 03:23:29.640 No, that's a super valuable super super valuable my my thing with the online purchasing is you could just they didn't say anything about distribution 03:23:30.280 --> 03:23:32.280 So if the payment happened 03:23:33.720 --> 03:23:36.360 It can be distributed just fine. Yeah, I mean 03:23:37.080 --> 03:23:39.560 I don't know exactly what the wording was. Do they have lockers? 03:23:40.360 --> 03:23:45.880 Uh, yes Ah, man. Yeah, I like this idea too much. I know I know right. It's it's so cool 03:23:45.960 --> 03:23:50.200 Because he could set up a relatively small printer in there and then if the transaction happened online 03:23:50.520 --> 03:23:59.400 He could do like ready to order That's too far. They would definitely the second there's an extension cord running into his locker 03:24:00.280 --> 03:24:03.080 You could get like uh, uh, what are these jackery? 03:24:05.880 --> 03:24:10.680 There's an answer for everything dude. There's an answer for all things all things are solvable 03:24:10.840 --> 03:24:17.640 I have go ego says it's just sad that 3d printing is at this point mostly just turning out other people's work in selling it 03:24:18.360 --> 03:24:22.840 I I would offer an alternate perspective coding 03:24:23.320 --> 03:24:29.880 um Libraries, I I mean even okay, let me just you write your own random number generators 03:24:29.960 --> 03:24:35.320 Let me let me offer an alternate perspective. We're talking about kids here 03:24:36.680 --> 03:24:42.200 The fact that my kids used our 3d printer exclusively as a toy factory 03:24:42.840 --> 03:24:46.520 Just printing other people's designs in this case selling them 03:24:47.480 --> 03:24:56.440 You could see that as a bad thing But let me pitch the the the you have to get your feet wet somewhere. Let me pitch the education angle 03:24:57.000 --> 03:25:02.840 Like they were never going to have to learn to widen that magnet mount hole 03:25:03.880 --> 03:25:10.360 If they didn't have someone order someone else's design the collaborative aspects of that is so freaking cool 03:25:10.440 --> 03:25:14.680 And they're never going to learn to make a better magazine 03:25:15.400 --> 03:25:21.400 That goes into the the the gun design better if they never learned to widen that hole 03:25:21.960 --> 03:25:32.120 And they're never going to create their own You know elastic gun design from scratch if they never made that magazine modification or built a cool accessory that goes on the rail 03:25:32.280 --> 03:25:40.040 You'll have to start somewhere It could end up turning into a thing where your your daughter's fun cool toy design models 03:25:40.600 --> 03:25:43.480 End up being what your son is like peddling at school 03:25:43.960 --> 03:25:47.960 And there's some form of like profit sharing agreement between the two or something 03:25:48.120 --> 03:25:51.800 Who knows like it's all paths from here are pretty cool 03:25:52.200 --> 03:25:58.280 Except for a path where it gets fully shut down and i'm happy that the school, you know did a fairly reasonable thing 03:25:58.600 --> 03:26:04.440 I'm being like, you know what don't sell these on ours. Don't overdo it. Yeah, which seems totally reasonable pump the brakes 03:26:04.760 --> 03:26:07.560 Um, but i'm happy that they didn't completely shut it down 03:26:07.960 --> 03:26:13.480 Because I mean there's there's weird aspects of that too, right? Because like we're sitting here thinking of ways that he can kind of work around it 03:26:13.800 --> 03:26:22.920 That is part of business Making sure that you can operate as optimally as possible, but not break the rules is literally part of running business 03:26:23.320 --> 03:26:28.840 Um, so like is actually a good lesson for him to understand that like if he pushes it too far 03:26:29.320 --> 03:26:32.280 They have the power to shut him down. So he shouldn't do that 03:26:32.680 --> 03:26:37.640 But it is a reasonable thing to push it a little bit and like try to try to do what he can 03:26:38.200 --> 03:26:45.880 Um, I think this is amazing I heard this concept not all these details, but I heard the concept and like immediately basically begged that there would be a video 03:26:45.880 --> 03:26:54.200 And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's probably a video. I was like, thank god So lumen's a real says so are you suggesting that scraping for ai was good because they had to start somewhere so incredibly 03:26:55.400 --> 03:26:59.000 That is that is such a literally not stealing. It's such a bad faith 03:26:59.400 --> 03:27:03.720 Comparison on so many levels now. Hold on though because there are a lot of models 03:27:04.920 --> 03:27:09.080 Hold on a lot of there are a lot of models on these marketplaces that are not approved for commercial use 03:27:10.040 --> 03:27:14.280 However, we are explicitly in this case. We are explicitly 03:27:14.920 --> 03:27:18.600 talking about small-scale student use which 03:27:19.320 --> 03:27:25.000 Okay, is it commercial? Yeah, but there's degrees of commercial use and there are 03:27:25.720 --> 03:27:31.320 There's there's nuance guys. Well, are the models that he's using with that license legitimately don't know 03:27:31.560 --> 03:27:37.240 Okay, kind of don't care. Yeah, to be honest with you. I don't really either, but they might also just not be they also might just not 03:27:37.240 --> 03:27:42.040 Be I agree. There are a bunch of models that are like that They're also a bunch of models that just don't care at all and look 03:27:42.600 --> 03:27:47.960 Over time if he scales this thing up and all of a sudden he's like selling online and selling, you know thousands of 03:27:48.520 --> 03:27:53.160 Gadgets a week. He's gonna need to make sure he's playing by the rules Then he's gonna need to make sure that he's playing by the rules 03:27:53.160 --> 03:27:57.240 But when we're talking about, you know a company like open ai or perplexity 03:27:57.560 --> 03:28:01.800 Companies that you know have millions upon millions or billions of dollars of seed funding guys 03:28:01.800 --> 03:28:06.040 We're talking about a totally different thing. We're not talking about a kid in their basement 03:28:06.280 --> 03:28:12.280 Printing 3d printed models and taking them to school and selling them for four dollars, right? Like we've context 03:28:12.840 --> 03:28:16.600 does matter and 03:28:16.600 --> 03:28:20.040 I know that's a really hard concept for people 03:28:21.080 --> 03:28:25.880 But it does matter. It does matter a lot and the world is not black and white 03:28:29.080 --> 03:28:31.080 All right 03:28:33.480 --> 03:28:39.080 Uh, oh, yeah, you know, I don't really think that talking about the podcast I was on matters that much 03:28:39.800 --> 03:28:42.440 But what is an interesting conversation? 03:28:43.080 --> 03:28:47.000 Um, I was I was on like an interview 03:28:48.120 --> 03:28:51.800 um Hold on let me see if I can find it 03:28:53.160 --> 03:28:57.640 Yeah, yeah, there we go. I I did an interview with uh, john uche and um 03:28:59.800 --> 03:29:03.960 Is this not the podcast? Yeah, this is it. Oh, okay. Yeah, and quite a few 03:29:05.240 --> 03:29:10.600 Quite a few people were very confused and some very upset 03:29:11.480 --> 03:29:14.520 by This 03:29:14.520 --> 03:29:18.760 Wait, they were upset by it. Yeah, I can understand being confused. I don't understand being upset 03:29:19.320 --> 03:29:24.200 Yeah, so youtube has a new feature. Yeah, it's cool. That allows a channel to 03:29:25.000 --> 03:29:32.520 Uh Collaborate with another channel. Yeah, it's like awesome like through the platform. Well, hold on. Hold on because there's there's alternate perspectives here 03:29:33.160 --> 03:29:35.880 um to collaborate through the platform and 03:29:36.360 --> 03:29:40.440 publish a video to the subscriber feed 03:29:41.240 --> 03:29:45.320 Of the channel that they collaborated with Uh 03:29:45.320 --> 03:29:52.040 Yeah That's why they're upset. I didn't know I did that. So that's where things get a little bit interesting. Is there a way for me to 03:29:52.840 --> 03:29:59.000 Is there a way for me to search? Can I can I find all the comments that I know I'm personally still okay with that? 03:29:59.000 --> 03:30:02.360 But I also understand why that would bother people. That's irritating. This is going to be 03:30:02.920 --> 03:30:06.360 This is going to be a pretty hard thing for me to find here then because 03:30:07.000 --> 03:30:12.120 I I ran into someone that was like very upset about this feature and I just 03:30:12.680 --> 03:30:17.160 Legitimately was like I would like to know more about your perspective because you have 03:30:17.880 --> 03:30:24.440 Extremely strong feelings about this and I don't really uh, I don't really get it. Um 03:30:26.040 --> 03:30:28.360 I'm gonna see if I can find it because they they 03:30:29.480 --> 03:30:34.760 In some ways kind of raised an interesting point, but in other ways. I think um 03:30:35.480 --> 03:30:42.280 Are maybe not necessarily Are considering the the the shades of gray. I guess so on the one hand 03:30:42.360 --> 03:30:45.560 They're black and white point that I can that I can agree with 03:30:46.040 --> 03:30:51.240 Is that I didn't subscribe to this channel. Get the out of my feed. Yeah, I understand that 03:30:52.520 --> 03:30:55.960 fair Valid oh good. I found the comment 03:30:56.040 --> 03:30:59.160 It would just it would just be kind of cool if there's when you go to your subscription feed 03:30:59.320 --> 03:31:02.520 If there was a like checkbox option thing to like 03:31:03.400 --> 03:31:09.400 No longer show collaborations. So here's buddy's comment. I hate hate hate the collab feature on youtube 03:31:09.640 --> 03:31:13.400 And nine out of ten. I will not watch the video out of spite for this feature 03:31:13.800 --> 03:31:18.360 We should not be getting videos from a creator and our subscribe feed from people. We are not subscribed to 03:31:19.240 --> 03:31:23.720 With that said, I don't know this podcast But I am interested in Linus getting interviewed because it happens so suddenly 03:31:23.720 --> 03:31:28.040 I mean, he's not afraid to say whatever the f*** he wants on his own channel, especially when any who back to the show 03:31:28.760 --> 03:31:33.160 So I said this seems like a super weird hill to die on I'm interested to understand more about your stance 03:31:33.400 --> 03:31:38.920 You subscribed to our creator me I assume in this case and youtube made a feature that notifies you when I'm in a video 03:31:39.320 --> 03:31:45.240 I honestly don't see the problem with it. Can you help me out? Okay, so here's how open of you very very very nice 03:31:45.640 --> 03:31:48.040 Well, no, I just I'm a reasonable comment, sir 03:31:48.920 --> 03:31:51.720 I'm not being. I mean, I did call him super weird 03:31:53.640 --> 03:31:56.840 I'm so maybe he was super weird. I said it's a super weird hill 03:31:57.240 --> 03:31:59.560 Yeah, but I mean he's dying on it. So 03:32:00.840 --> 03:32:02.840 I think the implication was clear 03:32:03.880 --> 03:32:07.880 I think you're being super weird about this was kind of what I was saying, but I genuinely 03:32:08.440 --> 03:32:14.920 Genuinely, it felt like you were genuinely open to see their perspective. Well, I didn't think I didn't think he was coming at it in bad faith 03:32:15.160 --> 03:32:19.960 Yeah, I could tell he was legitimately upset. Yeah that he wasn't making like 03:32:20.760 --> 03:32:25.400 Assumptions or sweeping generalizations as far as I could tell. Yeah, so here's what he said. Okay 03:32:26.280 --> 03:32:31.160 The example that started this collab feature was mark robber and mr. Beast and that is that is fair enough 03:32:31.160 --> 03:32:35.000 I think they were the first ones to get access to this feature. I think they launched it with the um 03:32:35.800 --> 03:32:39.640 Clean up the ocean collab earlier this year. Yeah, I don't quote me on that though 03:32:39.800 --> 03:32:43.400 But I believe they have used it I have a problem with mr. Beast in his practices 03:32:43.400 --> 03:32:47.400 Mr. Beast has since been shoved down my throat multiple times because he collabs with creators 03:32:47.400 --> 03:32:51.080 I love watching but I don't want to watch a mr. Beast video 03:32:51.400 --> 03:32:57.160 I specifically haven't blocked for a reason. I shouldn't be forced to see his face or videos in my subscriber fee 03:32:57.160 --> 03:33:03.800 You haven't blocked. Yeah, it shouldn't show and that is why I wanted to know more because I could tell we were going somewhere with this 03:33:03.800 --> 03:33:06.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I agree a hundred percent 03:33:07.640 --> 03:33:13.080 YouTube needs to fix this. Yeah, that seems simple to fix. It's one thing to to 03:33:14.120 --> 03:33:19.400 Feed me a video of a person that I subscribe to even if they're on someone else's channel 03:33:19.400 --> 03:33:25.880 Yeah, it is an entirely other thing if I have explicitly said do not show me 03:33:26.680 --> 03:33:30.200 The collaborate is so simple to fix though. Well, they probably just didn't think of it 03:33:30.360 --> 03:33:33.000 And we and it just needs to yeah be properly communicated 03:33:33.640 --> 03:33:37.880 Very slow machine needs to eventually turn out the fix and it'll happen. I'm sure um 03:33:38.520 --> 03:33:42.280 I've been dying on this hill for the months. This feature has existed. It's a long death 03:33:42.680 --> 03:33:46.360 Um, I'm pretty sure I've said it in your comment section a few times in the wan comment section 03:33:46.360 --> 03:33:52.600 If you happen to mention it, I didn't see it before. Sorry J. Cereo 187. Thanks for taking the time to recognize it 03:33:53.000 --> 03:33:59.160 um I also I think it should be your or the collaborator's responsibility to show me slash 03:33:59.720 --> 03:34:04.120 Advertises content put a post up on your socials or on the youtube feed. Hey, I made this thing with this person 03:34:04.200 --> 03:34:09.160 Check it out or don't so here's where I'm going to kind of go counterpoint J. Cereo 03:34:09.880 --> 03:34:13.400 I wish I had that power I don't 03:34:13.400 --> 03:34:19.720 If I post something on like the Linus tech tips community tab or if I post a short or something 03:34:20.840 --> 03:34:23.960 If it doesn't resonate strongly with the audience 03:34:24.600 --> 03:34:27.000 especially with how sensitive 03:34:27.960 --> 03:34:33.240 Algorithmically youtube has been lately to things just being either mega bangers or absolute flops 03:34:34.040 --> 03:34:36.040 It will have like zero reach 03:34:37.160 --> 03:34:44.680 You won't see it And so youtube took away my power to to promote these things 03:34:45.080 --> 03:34:48.680 Myself a really long time ago algorithmically 03:34:49.240 --> 03:34:53.320 So what they're doing is they're they're giving me back the scraps 03:34:53.880 --> 03:34:59.080 They're giving me the ability or they're giving another creator the ability to to properly 03:34:59.640 --> 03:35:02.680 Cross-pollinate in a way that we haven't had for a long time 03:35:03.080 --> 03:35:08.280 And I totally get it if you have a channel blocked like if you had this john guy 03:35:08.680 --> 03:35:12.040 You know if you hate his channel or something or in your case, it was mr. Beast 03:35:12.040 --> 03:35:20.440 It wasn't johnny. I can't see anything to hate about john here, but Um, but in your case, it was mr. Beast if you have a channel explicitly blocked that you have do not show flag 03:35:20.520 --> 03:35:25.400 You should never see it. You should never see it. I agree with you 100 percent. That's something youtube needs to fix 03:35:26.040 --> 03:35:29.800 But your suggestion that I just sort of promote things myself 03:35:30.680 --> 03:35:35.560 I wish I could I hate that I can't that I can't publish something 03:35:36.120 --> 03:35:40.840 And and be trusted To to not spam my viewers with stuff 03:35:40.840 --> 03:35:46.200 They don't want to see to to actually have the power to push a notification to the people who click subscribe 03:35:46.520 --> 03:35:49.880 And just let them unsubscribe if they if they don't want to see it 03:35:50.200 --> 03:35:58.760 But youtube determined a long time ago that for their business interests, which are maximizing watch time and maximizing ad and premium revenue 03:35:59.240 --> 03:36:02.920 it was better for them to just 03:36:03.240 --> 03:36:07.480 Because they knew that users were just going to be too lazy to unsubscribe to a channel 03:36:07.480 --> 03:36:11.640 They didn't want to hear from and they were just going to turn off youtube notifications. That's where it came from 03:36:11.880 --> 03:36:16.600 That's what this all goes back to is users instead of unsubscribing from stuff 03:36:16.600 --> 03:36:20.120 They don't want to see they would just turn off notifications 03:36:20.840 --> 03:36:28.600 And youtube doesn't want that So they determined it was better for them to decide how often to give you a notification from my channel 03:36:28.600 --> 03:36:30.840 They took that power away from me a long time ago 03:36:31.800 --> 03:36:36.120 Um So yeah, last thing I said was okay. Hey, thanks for elaborating 03:36:36.120 --> 03:36:41.000 I still think it's a little overkill to want to remove a feature from the platform because there's one specific creator you're trying to avoid 03:36:41.560 --> 03:36:47.160 I also agree with your general sentiment that as a viewer you should be able to control the content that is fed to you 03:36:47.720 --> 03:36:53.800 Um, the part I don't agree with is that this is any worse than basically anything else youtube has done algorithm-wise over the last 5 to 10 years 03:36:54.200 --> 03:36:57.640 The short shelf being in my way all the time or the utterly broken search that's full of stuff 03:36:57.640 --> 03:37:00.680 I've already watched and stuff. I'm not looking for so much worse. I mo 03:37:01.240 --> 03:37:05.480 Um, anyway, look at that Look at that a respectful 03:37:05.560 --> 03:37:08.040 Interaction on the internet. We should have it bronzed 03:37:09.560 --> 03:37:14.600 Um, I learned something and I hopefully j s learned something as well 03:37:15.560 --> 03:37:18.600 This is I was scrolling through the youtube's while you're talking about that 03:37:18.600 --> 03:37:23.400 I just have you know the account that's logged in for uh, the wancho here 03:37:23.640 --> 03:37:28.840 I just noticed something random in the recommendations, which was a 13 year old NVIDIA video 03:37:29.400 --> 03:37:35.960 A four year old delta highlights video a 15 year old white five four six video 03:37:36.520 --> 03:37:45.320 um 13 days two months 12 year old video scroll down more eight years ago 16 years ago. What's happening? 03:37:46.760 --> 03:37:51.320 Why is this account recommended just like the oldest stuff ever? Maybe it just knows you're old 03:37:51.320 --> 03:37:54.680 Maybe this is the equivalent of spotify is uh, your listener age 03:37:55.240 --> 03:37:59.480 All goes seems to have changed in the last few days. I've noticed my feet get really weird again 03:37:59.800 --> 03:38:03.960 It did it did somehow pick up that I would want to see the 03:38:04.600 --> 03:38:08.600 I am Gabe Newell that oh, no that I would want to see this one 03:38:09.240 --> 03:38:15.000 This guy living in delay to 2026 So they know that about me somehow even though it's 03:38:15.720 --> 03:38:19.720 Not even like really my I guess it sort of is my account but like search for stuff sometimes 03:38:19.800 --> 03:38:23.080 But I don't watch it. It's just on wancho. No, but you search for stuff 03:38:23.560 --> 03:38:27.320 Uh in this chrome profile that is related to what we talk about on wan 03:38:27.480 --> 03:38:33.480 So you've definitely talked about sky blue. We've definitely probably did luke. We probably did luke. We did. Thank you 03:38:39.400 --> 03:38:47.800 It happened, uh, is that it for topics, uh, yeah, I think so anyway, uh, you can go check out the interview if you want, um 03:38:48.760 --> 03:38:56.520 A lot of ground has been tread before on the WAN Show But it's a more concise version of a lot of it. You don't have to watch like a thousand hours of WAN Show 03:38:56.600 --> 03:39:01.400 You could just watch the one interview and he was really nice very accommodating host. Um 03:39:02.200 --> 03:39:07.800 Yeah, super cool. I met him for the first time at vid summit. That was where we um, it was actually I was 03:39:08.120 --> 03:39:14.120 I saw a couple complaints on his channel. It's amazing how spoiled people can get because his channel generally looks really great 03:39:14.840 --> 03:39:17.720 So I saw some complaints about his set and it's like bro 03:39:19.080 --> 03:39:22.200 They managed to make it look that good in a conference room 03:39:22.760 --> 03:39:29.320 I was like I was marveling at what he and his team pulled off and like their amazing attention to detail 03:39:29.720 --> 03:39:35.960 And meanwhile people are like complaining about it. Uh, yeah, I was like I was like great job, you guys 03:39:36.520 --> 03:39:41.080 This looks this looks swell. Why are they complaining? This was this was just in like like an ugly 03:39:41.080 --> 03:39:46.920 You know how every conference room has to be like tan and brown Yeah, just yeah, we were just in a like an ugly tan brown 03:39:47.080 --> 03:39:51.960 They brought in a rug to giz it up a little bit brought in some plants. They got the lighting 03:39:52.120 --> 03:39:59.800 I I thought they did a great job I didn't think it was in a studio. I didn't know where you were but I yeah, I mean I picked up the vibe pretty good 03:39:59.800 --> 03:40:04.200 We were in a horrible meeting room at a hotel. Yeah, we're in a conference center. I didn't see much of it 03:40:04.440 --> 03:40:13.160 Great job. Great job All right, Dan, I think it's time. It's when after dark except it's 03:40:13.960 --> 03:40:18.600 The afternoon light out there. I don't know how to deal with this. He was ahead of us. I don't know how to deal with this 03:40:18.600 --> 03:40:22.920 Yeah, that's a little weird There's other connotations 03:40:23.240 --> 03:40:27.560 Yeah, we don't go outside Yeah 03:40:28.680 --> 03:40:31.960 How about some merch messages? Yes, I'd love that. Okie dokie 03:40:32.440 --> 03:40:35.400 First time catching a show between work and being Sabbath 03:40:36.120 --> 03:40:41.000 Observant in my community sundown friday. Hold on. I'm a little wait. I'm a little confused. Can we slow down for a second? 03:40:41.000 --> 03:40:44.360 I thought you're allowed to recreate wait. Are you not allowed to use computers? 03:40:45.720 --> 03:40:51.000 Well, it's not friday sundown yet No, no, I know but just like the Sabbath in general. I don't know the rules 03:40:51.240 --> 03:40:56.840 No, yeah, but is yeah, but is watching a podcast work turning on a light is work. Is he calling us work? 03:40:58.680 --> 03:41:02.680 No, no, I know it's rude Right though. It's rude 03:41:02.680 --> 03:41:05.720 Okay. Oh, wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Tell me this. Tell me this. Okay. Okay 03:41:07.000 --> 03:41:10.120 Again, this is coming from a place of complete ignorance. I have no idea how the rules work 03:41:10.120 --> 03:41:14.360 All I know is that sometimes my b and h orders wouldn't ship on time. That's literally all I know 03:41:14.840 --> 03:41:18.520 so Do they have a wire for that? But if I if 03:41:20.360 --> 03:41:27.080 If you created a script That would like that would that would turn on your tv tomorrow 03:41:27.880 --> 03:41:32.760 No, what I'm just asking. This is a whole line of technology. This is a whole thing we can get into 03:41:32.760 --> 03:41:39.000 Really? Shut up Okay, but hold so I could I could push a button today on friday 03:41:39.400 --> 03:41:44.760 And then it could run a script that has a time delay to turn on the wanshow like tomorrow 03:41:45.400 --> 03:41:50.440 and then And then we'll turn it off when it's over like with that would that count 03:41:51.880 --> 03:41:56.920 I think that's a thing like I'm pretty Yeah, I've heard of like ovens that will 03:41:57.560 --> 03:42:01.240 Turn on to preheat at a scheduled time and then you can have dinner 03:42:01.720 --> 03:42:07.800 You can do stuff like that and like it's uh, you do a crock part. You started in the the morning. Yeah 03:42:08.440 --> 03:42:10.440 There's special elevators 03:42:11.960 --> 03:42:17.640 That stop on every floor so that you don't have to press a button. Yeah, you're not interacting with it 03:42:17.720 --> 03:42:21.000 It just stops opens the door for a certain period of time and then keeps going 03:42:22.040 --> 03:42:27.000 um Yeah 03:42:27.880 --> 03:42:32.040 There's like there's a lot of who technological workarounds 03:42:34.600 --> 03:42:36.600 Huh 03:42:37.720 --> 03:42:40.760 Okay interesting 03:42:40.760 --> 03:42:44.760 It's a whole industry apparently Wow 03:42:44.760 --> 03:42:48.760 This kind of reminds me of the electrical timers or like a huge deal for this 03:42:49.800 --> 03:42:56.600 um This kind of reminds me of the uh, I think they're called halal mortgages 03:42:58.040 --> 03:43:03.480 I I learned about this a while ago because you're not allowed to have a loan or no 03:43:03.800 --> 03:43:07.320 You're not allowed to pay or receive interest in islam 03:43:07.880 --> 03:43:11.400 So instead of a loan it's an asset backed 03:43:12.040 --> 03:43:14.280 partnership or at least to own agreement 03:43:16.360 --> 03:43:21.080 It apparently they cost like way more Nice. Yeah 03:43:22.040 --> 03:43:26.600 Uh, anyway, I just I just love the name of this but one of them is called the shabalb 03:43:35.400 --> 03:43:40.440 It's a light bulb that fits like any lamp and can be turned on and off on shabbat 03:43:40.840 --> 03:43:47.160 Uh, apparently a toggle on the led bulb allows users to make it go dark by concealing led 03:43:47.640 --> 03:43:55.320 Diodes that actually stay on Unlike other shabbat friendly lamps on the market the shabalb fits any socket can be used in regular lamp 03:43:55.400 --> 03:44:00.440 It's probably my least profitable item, but people love this product says mortakai 03:44:02.680 --> 03:44:07.720 You can use it during the week. You don't have to have a clunky lamp. You have to take out especially for shabbos 03:44:08.280 --> 03:44:11.320 Yeah, then just like the shower with mode ovens 03:44:12.280 --> 03:44:15.320 Huh All right. Wow 03:44:15.320 --> 03:44:17.720 What a what a what a technology 03:44:18.360 --> 03:44:25.240 Branch of technology. I've also heard people accidentally setting it into the wrong mode and then they can't use their oven all weekend 03:44:25.880 --> 03:44:32.440 So you can't use it accidentally. Yeah Right, right, right, right. Yeah, like are you starting to set it to cleaning mode and now it's just 03:44:33.560 --> 03:44:38.600 Broken now now. I want to learn more about these rules, right? Like it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool 03:44:38.600 --> 03:44:43.320 Okay, okay, my so my oma had a lamp that didn't have like a switch 03:44:43.400 --> 03:44:47.560 It was like the touch to dim remember those those were so cool. How are those not in fashion anymore? 03:44:47.560 --> 03:44:51.160 Anyway, the point is like it was still have one. Yeah, it was like a touch to dim 03:44:52.040 --> 03:44:55.960 Is that a switch does that count? What if you accidentally bump it? 03:44:58.360 --> 03:45:04.360 Well, I don't know. I don't know. I literally I don't know. I don't know. Does that are you what about voice control? 03:45:05.080 --> 03:45:09.480 Like is that a thing? Speaking is work 03:45:09.480 --> 03:45:15.080 But then would that mean that you can't speak ever I'd say yes because you still operate. No 03:45:15.800 --> 03:45:21.960 This is not your debate guys. I'm not debating anything. I'm asking questions. Yeah chill master of none. It's okay. It's okay 03:45:22.520 --> 03:45:28.040 Clap on. So I don't know Tim says I'd say yes because you still operate the device 03:45:28.520 --> 03:45:35.640 Yeah, because you're not operating the elevator by just getting on it and getting off, right? You're not instructing it to do anything, right? 03:45:36.600 --> 03:45:40.680 Closing a blind like closing the shutters on your led bulb 03:45:41.480 --> 03:45:47.880 I guess All right, that's why they don't turn on or off. You're just kind of like blocking you're affecting the result 03:45:48.680 --> 03:45:53.240 But you're not actually commanding the device to do something different. I guess fascinating 03:45:55.560 --> 03:46:01.240 Anyway, yeah, the question is have you ever done a full tech detox? 03:46:01.400 --> 03:46:04.760 Hold on. Hold on. Lucky drive says my girlfriend is Jewish if you bump into it 03:46:04.760 --> 03:46:08.840 It doesn't count as it wasn't intended if it's genuinely not intended. I think that makes a lot of sense 03:46:08.840 --> 03:46:10.840 But are you allowed to turn it back off? 03:46:12.200 --> 03:46:16.520 I Don't know. I don't know 03:46:16.520 --> 03:46:20.600 I don't know. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Okay. Sorry Dan. Go ahead. Have you ever done a full? 03:46:20.760 --> 03:46:29.320 No, we haven't even started this merge message No, I didn't even I get a good halfway through it. Wow. Okay. Have you ever done a full tech detox? 03:46:29.640 --> 03:46:31.640 Have unintentionally. Um, no 03:46:33.160 --> 03:46:37.320 No, I uh I like tag 03:46:38.280 --> 03:46:44.200 I should probably try it how how long would it have to be to truly be a detox? 03:46:45.480 --> 03:46:50.200 I don't know. It's 30 minutes I'm already shaking 03:46:51.160 --> 03:46:55.000 I think if it's less than a week, you haven't even really like tried 03:46:56.440 --> 03:47:02.280 Yeah, my biggest problem with this stuff is work. Uh, Emma proposed like we should pick a day a weekend where we don't do any 03:47:02.920 --> 03:47:06.120 Got excited there Oh 03:47:06.120 --> 03:47:12.840 Uh, Emma suggested that we do a day on the weekend where we don't use any electronics 03:47:12.840 --> 03:47:18.440 And I was like, yeah, I mean that's neat, but If something happens, I like need to be able to be in contact 03:47:18.840 --> 03:47:24.920 That is such a whole way to respond to someone's suggestion. That's neat. It is actually like a cool idea. I just can't do it 03:47:24.920 --> 03:47:31.480 It is a cool idea I like it's I would I would genuinely like to and I I suggested we do like severely limited 03:47:32.200 --> 03:47:38.280 or something But like what would that even on your smartwatch? I don't think I can actually just 03:47:39.400 --> 03:47:44.920 Um, I I don't think I can actually just completely cold turkey it because of work stuff 03:47:46.120 --> 03:47:48.200 and like part of my big issue is that 03:47:49.320 --> 03:47:54.360 When I'm bored what I would probably like to do is like just do some work stuff 03:47:55.080 --> 03:48:02.680 Like it's kind of my hobby Yeah, so that happens to me. Yeah, but like I think that's the point of digital detox 03:48:02.680 --> 03:48:07.240 I can do something else though. That's the point is that you're supposed to just not I am certain I can do something 03:48:07.240 --> 03:48:11.960 Okay, okay. Tell you what? 2026 03:48:12.680 --> 03:48:15.160 Let's do it do what let's do a couple's weekend 03:48:17.480 --> 03:48:21.720 No tech that's gonna be a problem if neither of us can be contacted doesn't matter 03:48:22.280 --> 03:48:25.320 Also, Yvonne. Don't forget Yvonne. Oh god. Yeah, I know 03:48:26.760 --> 03:48:32.680 I can probably set up enough like Contact lines that things could get figured out or hear me out. This is crazy 03:48:32.760 --> 03:48:38.440 You could set a vacation responder on your email for the first time ever never. I know I know but you could try it 03:48:39.560 --> 03:48:44.280 You could try it Never um 03:48:44.680 --> 03:48:49.720 Most the really emergency stuff isn't gonna be emailed though. Let's do it. It'll be slack in teams. No, let's do it 03:48:51.400 --> 03:48:55.480 Let's do it one weekend one weekend. I can do one weekend. We'll do one weekend 03:48:55.480 --> 03:48:59.000 We can make one weekend. I'm sending this to Yvonne, which means, you know, it will happen 03:49:01.000 --> 03:49:03.880 Now it's not just words Yvonne's involved. I can do one weekend 03:49:05.320 --> 03:49:09.000 I've effectively had to do one weekend because I wouldn't have service for the weekend and stuff 03:49:10.440 --> 03:49:13.880 Um yeah 03:49:13.880 --> 03:49:17.720 I'm actually still live comma, but luke and I well bloody hell 03:49:18.360 --> 03:49:22.280 I'm actually still live comma, but luke and I made a pact just now that 03:49:22.760 --> 03:49:26.840 We are going to do a couple's digital detox for one weekend next year 03:49:27.240 --> 03:49:30.040 So that means from midnight on friday to 03:49:30.840 --> 03:49:35.480 Midnight on sunday night. No tech I think it's I think it's wanshow ending 03:49:36.680 --> 03:49:41.240 Yeah, I could I could get in well Because friday night's the weekend in my opinion 03:49:42.680 --> 03:49:47.080 Interesting, okay, uh, well we can debate that later. I don't want to like get into a long 03:49:47.240 --> 03:49:50.280 Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I I could get behind that. I could get behind that 03:49:50.280 --> 03:49:57.000 So we turn off wanshow and then we touch no electronic switches and no screens. No electronic switches 03:49:57.640 --> 03:50:03.080 I think we can turn lights on and stuff. I mean is it technology or not? Okay. All right. You know what? No, it's you know 03:50:03.320 --> 03:50:07.320 I I'm down. We got to do candles and stuff. I know they asked digital detox 03:50:07.320 --> 03:50:10.520 So how about microchip? How about we draw the line at microchip? 03:50:11.400 --> 03:50:14.360 I think it's screen a lot of a lot of modern modern 03:50:15.080 --> 03:50:20.040 Yeah, because screen or microchip a lot of modern lights have your your light switches are like 03:50:20.920 --> 03:50:24.360 Our vehicles have microchips in them. You walk past them and they turn on 03:50:24.760 --> 03:50:30.040 Ah, okay, right. I mean your main vehicle has a screen in it too. Am I not going to be able to drive? No, no 03:50:30.840 --> 03:50:35.240 Okay, I think you're overthinking this a little bit, but you can't listen to the radio in your car 03:50:35.960 --> 03:50:40.440 Really? I like that. No maps No, like I like that 03:50:40.680 --> 03:50:46.520 I don't know nothing. I can have a paper map. I can have a paper map. Yeah, can I print the paper map? Yeah 03:50:47.160 --> 03:50:54.040 If you do it Friday, okay? Interesting interesting. Yeah, you know preheat the oven. You can use your oven. I you know, I don't care 03:50:54.040 --> 03:51:00.520 But you can't you can't watch a podcast or listen to music and services effectively like you can't use your phone at all 03:51:00.600 --> 03:51:06.280 No entertainment from a digital device at all. No assistance from a digital device. That's sort of thing. Yeah 03:51:07.160 --> 03:51:14.200 I can't eat something that's like a monitor. Can I read a book if it's on a Kindle? No, no, okay? 03:51:14.760 --> 03:51:17.880 No, no, it's good. It's good. We want to find out 03:51:18.440 --> 03:51:22.040 We're finding the lines. What if I pre-loaded? What if I okay? Oh? 03:51:22.760 --> 03:51:27.240 You said that I'm allowed to pre-print a map. Yes. What if I had a hundred Kindles? 03:51:27.960 --> 03:51:33.080 And I pre-loaded a hundred pages. I don't know. You have to print it. Okay. Okay. I have to print the book 03:51:33.880 --> 03:51:39.240 Curse you DRM I won't be able to there's lots of DRM free books actually by the way 03:51:39.240 --> 03:51:44.600 Lucky Drive 1984 says if you accidentally bump into it and turn it on you cannot turn it back off unfortunately 03:51:45.000 --> 03:51:48.520 Yeah, that sounds right. So I did get my answer on that. All right, Dan. What's next? 03:51:49.640 --> 03:51:54.280 Hey LLD Linus, you have talked a lot about inventory of your products and I was curious 03:51:54.520 --> 03:52:00.440 Why can't you just order a lot of it stored in a warehouse till it sells out cheers from the netherlands? 03:52:01.160 --> 03:52:05.640 Money money money money It's such an innocent question. I know right money 03:52:06.760 --> 03:52:09.400 But it's a complaint that our money money money 03:52:10.120 --> 03:52:12.120 Yeah 03:52:13.480 --> 03:52:19.800 As it turns out He's losing it do not have unlimited money. What I know 03:52:20.280 --> 03:52:24.840 I We should do something to fix this my illusion is shattered mine, too 03:52:25.160 --> 03:52:29.640 If you had stock you would have more money. I thought I did it was catch 22. It was all digital 03:52:29.880 --> 03:52:33.880 Yeah, yeah, right. How am I get it's an infinite money glitch? 03:52:34.520 --> 03:52:36.920 The more stock I buy the more money I have 03:52:38.120 --> 03:52:41.320 So you see this chicken it's made of chicken 03:52:42.360 --> 03:52:51.480 one of the One of the biggest challenges moving from a small business to a mid-sized business and then and then even and then beyond 03:52:51.880 --> 03:52:55.560 One of the things that really scales in difficulty is managing your cash flow 03:52:56.280 --> 03:53:04.280 Not your profitability You can be a profitable business and still be out of money that goes out of business 03:53:04.680 --> 03:53:07.480 Because you didn't correctly manage your cash flow 03:53:07.800 --> 03:53:13.080 Because you ended up with warehouses full of inventory that are not turning fast enough 03:53:13.480 --> 03:53:18.040 And you end up with more bills due than you have money left to pay them 03:53:18.440 --> 03:53:21.800 All of a sudden you fall behind on your payroll, which is the 03:53:22.440 --> 03:53:26.280 Single most important bill that you need to pay every two weeks 03:53:27.880 --> 03:53:35.160 And that's it You're cooked because maybe you're in an industry where no amount of discounting. I don't know 03:53:35.960 --> 03:53:42.120 Giant copper rods is going to make enough new infrastructure projects that more people are going to buy them 03:53:42.200 --> 03:53:47.400 Like I don't know what industry you're in in some industries You can just you can just torch your inventory 03:53:47.720 --> 03:53:52.120 Not not literally light it on fire, but you can just go really aggressive on the pricing 03:53:52.120 --> 03:53:56.840 You can move through a bunch of it. You can generate some cash flow. You get your you get your payroll paid 03:53:56.920 --> 03:54:05.320 You get you know, maybe you're a little behind on your taxes as well You get that dealt with you go a little more conservative on your on your reorder and you can get you can get your feet back 03:54:05.960 --> 03:54:13.400 under you right But especially a business that is that is scaling that is growing can 03:54:14.120 --> 03:54:20.600 Can can run into trouble Because it's easy to look at your sales, right and go oh wow 03:54:21.240 --> 03:54:26.440 We sold twice as many this you know this quarter as we did last quarter 03:54:27.400 --> 03:54:30.440 I project that we're going to sell twice as many again the next quarter 03:54:30.680 --> 03:54:35.400 So you take all the money that you got back from that inventory that you bought and then sold 03:54:35.800 --> 03:54:40.280 All the money you made on top of that and you put it right back into buying more inventory 03:54:40.840 --> 03:54:43.320 Well, hold on a second. What happened to all the profit? 03:54:44.360 --> 03:54:47.880 I can't I can't pay my staff and screwdrivers and hoodies 03:54:49.640 --> 03:54:56.600 Perk sure But payment no they can't pay their rent. They can't pay their food bill and screwdrivers. That's not how it works, right? 03:54:57.080 --> 03:55:02.040 So you have to carefully As you are growing manage your cash flows 03:55:02.040 --> 03:55:06.200 So you're keeping enough of the profitability to cover your operating expenses 03:55:06.760 --> 03:55:10.440 And you are keeping enough of it to order more 03:55:11.080 --> 03:55:14.120 So that you have enough inventory for your growing business 03:55:14.440 --> 03:55:18.920 And this is why a lot of a lot of businesses take on outside debt 03:55:19.400 --> 03:55:24.840 We have made the decision to grow organically to not take on outside debt as it happens right now 03:55:25.240 --> 03:55:29.960 We do have a modest line of credit and this is maybe going to sound a little out of touch 03:55:30.040 --> 03:55:34.680 But we have about two and a half million canadian dollars on our line of credit if you must know 03:55:35.080 --> 03:55:42.680 And that was part of the lead up to black friday cyber monday because we ordered in a whack ton of inventory 03:55:43.080 --> 03:55:49.320 Alongside having some expensive outlays like the tech house and some other stuff that i'll get into fairly soon with you guys 03:55:50.040 --> 03:55:55.160 That all kind of hit us toward the middle to the end of 2025 03:55:55.800 --> 03:55:58.520 And so for that reason we had to dip into our line of credit 03:55:59.080 --> 03:56:03.160 Probably looking at how black friday went we won't need that line of credit for much longer 03:56:03.160 --> 03:56:08.920 But it's just part of managing your cash flow and if for whatever reason your credit's not strong or is not pre negotiated even 03:56:09.400 --> 03:56:14.040 Then it can be a big problem Even if you're growing even if you're profitable 03:56:14.520 --> 03:56:18.440 So why can't I just Order a bunch 03:56:18.440 --> 03:56:24.200 And put it in a warehouse till it sells out in europe which is where i assume you want it because you're saying cheers from the netherlands 03:56:25.000 --> 03:56:29.800 Not only right am i going to be tying up cash flow if i order too much 03:56:30.360 --> 03:56:36.760 But what i could also be doing Is i could be increasing my month to month operational expenses 03:56:37.480 --> 03:56:40.120 Then it's a double whammy that's really tough 03:56:40.520 --> 03:56:45.160 Because i have a whole bunch of bills due for all this inventory that i purchased 03:56:45.560 --> 03:56:50.600 It's sitting in a warehouse that now guess what now i have to pay monthly 03:56:51.240 --> 03:56:54.760 In some cases more frequently than monthly for the storage 03:56:55.480 --> 03:57:01.560 Of said inventory in said warehouse everybody at every stage in the chain has to feed their families 03:57:01.800 --> 03:57:07.400 Right so i can't just tell that warehouse oh well you should just store it for me for free. Why should they i'm not a charity 03:57:07.800 --> 03:57:14.920 They don't owe me anything So unfortunately it's always a fine balancing act when you're expanding between 03:57:15.560 --> 03:57:21.800 What you are forecasting for your sales how much available cash flow you have and you know what 03:57:22.520 --> 03:57:28.120 What your partners can do to help to enable you to achieve your growth what kind of credit you can draw from 03:57:29.400 --> 03:57:34.840 It's complicated We'd love to have an EU warehouse. We'd love to it would be nice 03:57:35.960 --> 03:57:39.480 someday you know 03:57:39.480 --> 03:57:42.360 Will whatever entity is willing we will 03:57:43.560 --> 03:57:45.560 But it is not this day. No 03:57:50.760 --> 03:57:54.680 What's up boys line us are their new sweatpants 03:57:55.080 --> 03:57:59.960 Hold on one second. Oh boy. Uh, mr. Nebbe says making 22 million in adsense last year 03:58:00.040 --> 03:58:04.920 Two and a half million of credit is nothing that 22 million adsense was all time 03:58:05.640 --> 03:58:09.720 That's over the entire existence of the LTT channel since 2008 03:58:09.880 --> 03:58:14.920 I saw quite a few people who were sort of confused by that from the interview that was ever 03:58:15.720 --> 03:58:25.400 Not not in one year. Okay. Go ahead. Sorry What's up boys line us are there new sweatpants coming soon miss the stealth ones? I guess mr. Cheap over there got them all 03:58:26.040 --> 03:58:32.440 um New sweatpants coming. I think we have some new sweatpants coming. Um, I don't have a time frame on those 03:58:32.520 --> 03:58:36.520 But if we do it will probably be in like winter spring. So should be 03:58:38.040 --> 03:58:43.960 You know sometime We'll definitely make sweatpants again at some point. There's the dropout sweatpants 03:58:44.440 --> 03:58:47.320 Are those? Yeah, I don't think we have all the sizes in stock. We oh 03:58:48.280 --> 03:58:53.480 I don't think the thing is showing properly and another challenge with having different distribution centers around the world 03:58:53.640 --> 03:58:57.640 You're looking at one site that doesn't necessarily mean that the other site has them in stock 03:58:59.240 --> 03:59:01.240 Fun time challenges 03:59:04.120 --> 03:59:10.920 Next one in Sure thing. Um, do you have any stretches of road that you like to drive on the bike? 03:59:12.040 --> 03:59:21.480 I unfortunately just I haven't ridden my motorbike in three years. I hopefully they are going to put it together this winter and I will ride it in the spring 03:59:22.040 --> 03:59:27.800 um For me, it's less about like a particular road and it's more just like 03:59:29.320 --> 03:59:38.520 air You know and the and the agility. I love just I love the I love the space you have you can create a lot of space for yourself on the motorbike like I 03:59:39.240 --> 03:59:43.640 Uh, my justification to myself and you can call it rationalization. I don't care. I won't be offended 03:59:44.120 --> 03:59:48.360 Um, but it's very clear that on a motorbike if you get in an accident 03:59:48.440 --> 03:59:52.040 You are very much more dead than you would be necessarily if you're a cager 03:59:52.760 --> 03:59:58.680 um However It's got to start any terminology. Yeah, however 03:59:59.960 --> 04:00:03.960 You can create a lot more buffer space for yourself on a motorcycle than you can 04:00:04.520 --> 04:00:09.960 In a car and so, you know, I can when I'm passing I can create like 04:00:10.840 --> 04:00:14.200 Nine feet of space between me and any other vehicle whereas in a car 04:00:14.280 --> 04:00:18.920 I'll be more like three feet away. So if someone is behaving in an unpredictable fashion 04:00:19.480 --> 04:00:23.160 I think I am less likely to be 04:00:23.160 --> 04:00:26.120 obstructed by them in any way and end up in an accident on a bike 04:00:26.280 --> 04:00:31.320 Even if the consequences of said accident will be much worse on a bike. That is a tough line of thinking 04:00:32.840 --> 04:00:36.680 You're you're entitled to it. I'm a super defensive rider. I can tell you that much 04:00:37.240 --> 04:00:40.280 Um, I you're entitled to it. I create extra space for myself 04:00:40.520 --> 04:00:43.560 I don't I never want to be beside someone when I'm on the bike 04:00:44.040 --> 04:00:49.800 I'm always watching 360 And it is it is easier. It's you have way better visibility 04:00:50.440 --> 04:00:52.440 You're way smaller 04:00:54.680 --> 04:00:59.400 Yeah, scrappy saying t-bones don't care. Yeah, there's a there's a decent amount of scenarios. That's so true 04:00:59.480 --> 04:01:03.640 You can't correct for that's so true. Yep. I believe that you do those things 04:01:03.880 --> 04:01:07.800 Yep, and I believe that that You know probably makes you safer than a lot of riders 04:01:07.880 --> 04:01:14.120 But I there are also just things that you know and a big part of it is the cargo fast hit go boom 04:01:14.520 --> 04:01:19.320 There's a big part of it is the environment that I ride into like I mostly just commute to and from work 04:01:19.720 --> 04:01:28.440 Highway there and back And so if if I was if I was in a different environment, it might be a completely different situation 04:01:29.080 --> 04:01:34.040 So just make of that what you will right like I'm not saying that anything about my experience is applicable to your own 04:01:35.880 --> 04:01:43.080 Just set up my nas why is raid zero with all used ssds and no off-site backup the safest layout 04:01:43.640 --> 04:01:46.600 Thank you for mcm. The argument that Linus was just 04:01:47.160 --> 04:01:51.400 Having you know if you're going raid zero all ssds used ssds 04:01:51.480 --> 04:01:56.760 You're gonna pay more attention to your setup be a little bit more aware if anything is failing. I'm archiving 04:01:58.120 --> 04:02:02.760 Just be you know, you're gonna be you're gonna be more careful. How could you curate that Dan? 04:02:04.040 --> 04:02:06.040 What the heck 04:02:07.240 --> 04:02:11.320 Fine First time watching live from france 04:02:12.040 --> 04:02:16.680 Thanks to the earlier schedule schedule. I I don't know what I'm supposed to say anymore 04:02:17.000 --> 04:02:20.120 You've mentioned many times that sony playstation's controllers are much 04:02:20.680 --> 04:02:25.000 Inferior to microsoft slash x boxes. Can you explain why? 04:02:25.480 --> 04:02:29.160 um, so first of all the dual sense is amazing 04:02:29.800 --> 04:02:33.560 um But going back to the dual shock series 04:02:34.200 --> 04:02:39.000 personally I and Luke from his hand gestures 04:02:39.640 --> 04:02:43.320 Agrees I prefer to have my thumbs 04:02:44.200 --> 04:02:46.920 In a symmetrical resting position 04:02:47.400 --> 04:02:54.120 So i'm on my abxy here and i'm on my analog stick here. I do not prefer to be on my 04:02:55.560 --> 04:03:00.920 Triangle circle square, whatever the last one is here and then on my thumb stick here 04:03:01.400 --> 04:03:08.120 I do not prefer that as my resting position. Yep. I'm not primarying the d-pad that simple. Yep 04:03:09.240 --> 04:03:15.080 Last one I got for you today. Good day lanky lukey and Dan. I don't get a special name 04:03:15.400 --> 04:03:18.440 What is the best way to determine if a GPU is going bad? 04:03:18.760 --> 04:03:25.160 I have a 30 60 ti in my hp omen desktop and lately it seems like it's struggling with basic things like youtube 04:03:25.320 --> 04:03:29.800 I'd probably run a stress test run fur mark on it or something like that see if it artifacts. Um, 04:03:30.360 --> 04:03:35.000 Check if there's dust check your temperatures. Yeah, maybe repaste it 3000 series. Yep 04:03:35.240 --> 04:03:38.520 I mean, you're not going to be losing your warranty on it at this point. So yep 04:03:38.840 --> 04:03:41.400 You might as well give it a shot. Um, I would definitely 04:03:42.120 --> 04:03:45.240 Hit your system with a ddu. Just google ddu 04:03:45.320 --> 04:03:50.200 Yeah, give it a little freshening up and then install your drivers fresh see if the issues go away failing that 04:03:50.360 --> 04:03:57.320 I would try a fresh Windows install. It's a 30 60 ti So we're probably talking like a seven year old eight year old Windows installed by this point 04:03:57.880 --> 04:04:02.120 Um, and then if you're still having issues then yeah, it might be it might be a problem 04:04:02.200 --> 04:04:11.400 All right, well, hey, thanks for tuning in you guys. We'll see you again next week same bad time 04:04:11.480 --> 04:04:17.240 Well, probably probably back to the regular time next week, but definitely same bad channel. Probably. Yeah. Bye 04:04:32.120 --> 04:04:34.120 You