{"video_id":"fp_eDQ3EEmX1c","title":"Livestream VOD – December 5, 2025 @ 18:28 – We Lost A Good One Bois - WAN Show December 5, 2025","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2025-12-05T18:52:00.079Z","duration_s":14689,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":2.0,"text":"And three","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":4.92,"end_s":11.42,"text":"You mean three yeah, whoo, okay, we're back","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":18.96,"end_s":27.0,"text":"All right, are we live oh I I hear a little in yeah, oh, let me go. I don't know what that is, but there's definitely something","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":30.92,"end_s":36.76,"text":"Anything testing talk checkity check check check check check. 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We'll see you again next week same bad time","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14651.48,"end_s":14657.24,"text":"Well, probably probably back to the regular time next week, but definitely same bad channel. Probably. Yeah. Bye","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14672.12,"end_s":14674.12,"text":"You","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"And three You mean three yeah, whoo, okay, we're back All right, are we live oh I I hear a little in yeah, oh, let me go. I don't know what that is, but there's definitely something Anything testing talk checkity check check check check check. I think it's good You're probably hearing my headphones through my mic Hello, hello, hello Okay, so that's fine then yes should be fixed now. Okay. All right. We good just Doing Facebook again All right. Good morning y'all Oh Okay Should we should we do this thing Give me one sec, but yeah should be ready we're back on Twitter back off the plane. Okay, cool. 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Yeah, that's That's just raunchy we just know what Dan likes now Yeah, you do All right, I'm resuming the selected here we go Okay You What is up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show we've got a great show lined up for you guys this week our Headline topic is of course that micron is going all in on AI and abandoning us poor consumers I Like the products Luke So what if they had a couple price-fixing scandals over the years who in the DRAM industry didn't Okay, yeah, I mean that's I mean that's how price-fixing works It's when the whole industry gets together and it's like You know what if we're not the bad guy, but they're all sorry if we're the bad guy and they're also the bad guy Then we won't stand out. What are you gonna do about it? But seriously quality products that just evil I guess we just Don't get to buy anymore. So we're gonna be talking about that We're also gonna be talking about Netflix making things worse for everyone again and the justification for this is just it's so weak You know, it's so weak. It's a month Oh Speaking of not weak Intel GPU market share hits a record level, okay Intel is officially the one percent. Yeah, congratulations Intel time to buy a McMansion Unfortunately the other end of the one financing and I don't know rip cherry cherry is like I Going up not for the same reasons as Mike Ron cherries in a pie Cuz they're cooked baked well, okay, it doesn't matter No I Micron technology announced the oh god Thanks micron technology all you missed the funny part. Well, that's okay. We're good. Wait. Did they not hear any of the sponsor call? Okay, they said they could hear Guys we had our Christmas party last night and I don't drink But it was still a very tiring day and as you can probably tell I'm a little under the weather So I'm gonna do my best today. All right Micron technology has announced the impending demise of their consumer focused crucial brand on Wednesday just months after the company celebrated its 29th anniversary. I Mean that last bit seems kind of irrelevant. You're always just months away from an anniversary of some sort 29 seems kind of arbitrary I'm deleting that from the notes In a press release the memory giant stated that Micron has made the difficult decision to exit the crucial consumer business in order to improve supply and support for our larger strategic customers in faster-growing segments In a nutshell Guess what gamers you just ain't that fucking important for now for now Until you come crawling back. Yeah, everyone's talking about a constant bubble everyone crawls back to gaming Name someone who didn't How many people have exited Name someone who's exited. I mean crucial didn't exit exit, but they did kill their ballistics brand once Yeah, I mean, I feel like this has been this has been hinted towards in the cards And then now they were like mmm. There's a strong reason now Well, I don't even think it's strong reason. I think it's just as simple as EVGA. I don't think counts in this case guys Yeah, they didn't come back But they they left for like completely different reasons. Yes, I didn't leave because there was more profit elsewhere. Well, yeah I know that I mean that leaving because there's less profit where you are or leaving because there's more profit elsewhere Think they're both technically just different sides of the same coin I think they're a little different Did one of them is like leaving because of opportunity and they're the ones leaving because of the lack of opportunity. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, same coin same coin different sides. I think it matters different outcomes. Yeah Um Shipments of crucial products are expected to end in 2026 with warranty and support continuing for some time Um, I'm just I'm just bummed right because at the end of the day we talk about this endlessly there is an Inherent advantage to having more competition in the market and losing micron in this in this space Which I guess Technically they haven't announced Um Actually, I guess yeah, technically they haven't announced so nothing would technically Prevent a DRAM module maker from buying micron DRAM chips Which seems like what they want anyway continuing to make modules out of them It's just that the crucial brand the first-party micron retail brand crucial is no longer going to be available to us and You know, I might have kind of talked myself out of being quite as bummed about this. I Don't think so to me it it feels like you're you're doing less competition I think there's a lot of like if you remember what happened with GPU prices during like 3000 series and whatnot where they absolutely blew up and then when that demand started fading the prices didn't come back down and then AI Started happening and then they went back up again Oh, be clear. I this feels like a opportunity to crank DRAM prices to be clear the AI The AI price bubble in memory is absolutely going to be felt for a very long time Yeah, I'm not questioning that I just mean the loss of the crucial brand specifically. Oh, yeah, whatever Maybe they weren't that crucial Like you can still buy you can still buy memory from Corsair You can still buy memory from I don't know Patriot. Yeah, I mean man You've experienced this right you show up at Computex and Every year you walk the trade show floor there There's probably a dozen memory brands. You've never heard of but you're probably looking at three memory brands worth virtual chips Probably there's like yeah, you got your Samsung your SK high Knicks You got your micron you got who am I forgetting guys? I'm sure I'm forgetting The Chinese one the Houston no longer change in memory technologies Chinese brands, I don't know if we're actually seeing those in in North American products not around here today How did I forget Samsung? Sorry? Yeah, Sam? Today, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure Kingston know hyper X Kingston is not an actual DRAM Like yeah, they're not a fab. They're a module packager G-skill same thing. They are a module packager. They're not they're not actually a fab Yeah, like if I look at I just I just popped up Amazon and took a look in the sidebar Dato sure all the brands Corsair G-skill team group crucial Kingston XPG Samsung All the way down. Yeah, there's basically three brands making all those chips and I mean, I guess yeah, you'll still be I guess for me What I am actually gonna miss I'm gonna miss crucial more probably on the SSD side Because while they've for the most part actually recently, they've had some really nice gen 5 drives, but for the most part Crucial hasn't even necessarily been like the highest performing SSDs But what they have been is one that I can trust that probably won't be trash Whereas when I buy an SSD like when it comes to like I don't and maybe This is maybe this is a really weird mentality but I actually think I care more about The the trust that I have in the brand for my SSD then for my RAM Even though like RAM can have a huge impact obviously on system stability and performance Yeah, I don't agree. I think I I'm I Just don't want I just don't want to lose my data and You know in my gaming system Realistically my boot SSD probably doesn't matter that much because my point because all of my data is gonna be backed up somewhere else But there's there's areas where I'm gonna I'm gonna use an SSD that is not my gaming system and like yeah, okay Yeah, I should run raid one, you know on my boot drive on my NAS It'll off-site stuff too. Yeah, I'd be just annoying to have to restore and whatnot. Yeah Yeah, and like RAM I can I can run a system stress test and then I'm gonna have a pretty good idea if it works. It's a you know, it's it's it doesn't wear the same way that NAND flash does and Man and with DRAM like the way the grading works for it. It's it's more down to speed It's more down to performance bins for it So if it's like working it will probably stay working like there isn't like a better reliability grade Whereas with NAND flash They're graded not just in terms of performance, but they're graded in terms of their reliability in terms of so When I'm buying an SSD from a rando brand, I don't know if I'm getting an OCC agility or if I'm getting You know, I again so now I'm sitting here going okay, well who who am I going to then for my Definitely using reliable Tier NAND in their consumer brand plenty of other options. Yeah, there's Samsung who's probably gonna be probably will be fine Give me another give me another first party one though. Like actually does SK. I just can't it does have their own consumer Isn't that SK hynix? No No, SK hynix has their own consumer brand, but I don't think they're I don't think they have a presence in North America Uh, does team group just use them a lot? I remember there being something about that SK hynix, I'm gonna I'm gonna check. Oh Yeah, SK hynix is in North America now Okay, just first party branded What the heck is this? Oh, Clev. That's what I was thinking not team group Clev my bad My bad. I meant. Yeah, I meant Clev. I don't know why I screwed those up. It's Dan. Hi. He's the problem. It's Dan Check this out. Oh, that's Luke. I pressed Linus laptop Nice, so I was uh, yeah, so SK hynix definitely also. What is this? Huh, oh my oh my oh my oh my yeah, Clev is closely tied to SK hynix It's from the brand SM core, which is they distribute SK hynix memory blah blah blah got it. Okay, cool Anyway Still a downer We're we're never gonna root for A company exiting a space because no, this is bad. Yeah, because from our point of view more competition is more better But it's not like, uh It's clear where their focus has been anyway Yeah, um, like they could have kept the crucial brand And just quietly like not manufactured anything and they might not have had the same, you know Headline splash that they're getting now But the effect would have been exactly the same because they're only making so many wafers And then they choose what to make on those wafers and they're obviously going to target Their commercial customers Yeah, and it's been it's been if you if you've been paying attention at all Which I can I don't really blame you too much for not But if you have it's been pretty brutally and blatantly obvious that Nobody in the DRAM space cares about you at all Just like it's literally commodity be super clear and and it has been constant price fixing for like Getting close to like 30 years like this is not not constant but a cycle There's been a cycle of hey these guys all got caught place. They've been caught price fixing Every like five to eight years for like 30 years. I think it's been a me that feels constant three times that I can think of In the time that I've been a pc enthusiast But when I when I say it's literally commodity, I do mean it is like literally A commodity like you can you can get an account on DRAM exchange and you can watch the tickers for all the various all the various DRAMs Um And that's been a thing again for as long as I've been part of the industry So the good thing to go the good news is that as a commodity When it falls it actually does tend to fall fall Um, and it may we may have a shot. I just feel like this might be one of the stepping stones towards resisting that fall Oh, it'll resist it. I mean remember the uh, what was it? I think it was the thailand floods that wiped out Oh, that was rough over half of the production the like global production capacity for the motors that spin hard drives Uh, that was a thing back in what was it like 20 30 or something like that really was was it was it that recently? When when were the the I thought we were I often Gauge news based on When and where we were talking about on 2011. I'm closest without going over. Let's go. That's true. Um, no seriously though It was it was around still suffering the effects at that time. Maybe um Probably that might yeah, so so that well, that's exactly what I was going to say the the thailand floods. Um So hold on they started in july intensified in september and october finally receded by january 2012 So we were actually that's it. We were actually both Close to the the period so during that time hard drives went from like historic lows Like they were they were dirt cheap It was sort of comical like you were basically buying a hard drive For practically the like scrap metal price of a hard drive and then they went To the point where like at ncix our strategy for trying to have any hard drives in stock At hopefully some price that anyone would want to pay was we we actually enlisted people internally To just go buy like retail hard drives like external hard drives and then shuck them so that we could put them in bags I don't know if we ever actually did it, but we certainly talked about it Um, just like everyone was like like land grabbing it was like the apocalypse And and people like hoarding ammunition and canned food, but it was like people buying the enclosures from cosco and shucking them I remember consumers doing that because basically every drive that was out in the retail channel already That was sold at the the dirt cheap prices had just doubled or tripled in value like it was it was insane um what happened and It was it was a long it was a long time So on the one hand like yes, uh part of why it took so long to recover was that you don't just Build up motor factory Overnight that's just not how that works So it it took time for them to ramp production back up And the other part of it is that they took their sweet time ramping production back up because uh, I remember wd was probably the biggest beneficiary of it like their stock went bonkers profit maxing at the time was wild because it the actual cost Of the hard drive didn't really change It was just that the supply got choked out. Yeah, so the demand went way up So the profit margins that they were able to make went way higher, but and Well, I thought you're done. I thought you're done I was gonna say I I understand that you're you're pointing out you can you can buy commodity deramble blah blah blah But it really feels like uh a while ago sam altman said that they're doing great stuff with like tech innovation But they need to start doing financial innovation and that was a little bit before This whole circular money funnel thing started happening And it feels like there are a lot more facets to this instead of just trading money in a circle I think there's a lot of things happening. I think this is one of them where invidious deciding to De-couple their shipments, so they're not shipping deram with their chips anymore Micron is taking crucial out of the market all this stuff is happening. It feels like they're trying to pump RAM Uh like as hard as they can. Oh, I don't I along with everything I don't think they're pumping RAM. I think they're just I think there is a shortage I think is what it boils down to because there's a there's a way for shortage right now Sure, like they can't get enough just like the invidia one is weird to me because that's just more opportunity for invidia to mark things up Well, what it is. Well, it's it's just that they can't get it They want to ship they want to ship GPU's They're just they're not going to stop shipping GPU. I don't know how much they care about shipping consumer GPU's Well, no, no, but ship it. No, they'll ship. They'll ship any GPU They're just they just want to ship GPU's and if supply of deram for their packaged GPU deram Packet or vram. I guess it'd be in this case, but whatever basically ramp deram Uh dynamic random access memory So if they're if they can't get the supply of the other widget like think what happened to the car industry during the silicon shortage during Covid they just had these these almost finished cars that were just waiting on processors. That's the actual problem here I could be wrong. It's definitely part of it 100 percent. It's part of it. Maybe there's there's no way It's not part of it because remember too. It's not just the supply. It's also not knowing what the cost is So it's really hard to price something where you can't get it And also when you finally do get it it might cost more than what your anticipated quote was before Invidia doesn't want to carry that liability So if they just ship the GPU's and they make it someone else's problem, then they don't have to worry about that I just think it's sure maybe I think it's part of a a series of steps that are going to result in DRAM prices being permanently higher than they were before so I I would say that except that The the long term the like zoom out from the the crisis we're in now zoom out view Is we've been through shortages before And DRAM's overall price trend towards getting way cheaper over time My point is that they're making systemic changes that might resist that in the future crucial being out of the market and And invidia not packaging things together and certain other steps that are happening as well Well, I also agree that I think it's going to fall is this whole ai things like rather clearly a bubble That's going to pop at some point. So there's there's a couple things So one is like samsung has never been in the consumer DRAM market or I shouldn't say never actually in the ddr one day You could buy consumer samsung memory modules But I think ddr two and onward definitely you couldn't with ddr three. They went oem only and they went uh enterprise only and That clearly has not had a devastating impact on the consumer DRAM market other than when they've been caught price fixing along with the rest of the industry Yeah But again, so the the macro trend of DRAM pricing marching ever downward in spite of there having been shortages They're having been price fixing scandals. They're having been major manufacturers of Of DRAM chips not participating in the retail market All of these things have been true at various points in the past and DRAM has marched Ever downward other than blips and the reason that I think that this time will be no different Is that unlike the thailand floods where we did see elevated hard drive pricing for a very long time They rode that wave as long as they could with the major hard drive players You've got wd and c gate sitting there, you know kind of going Yeah, who's gonna who's gonna crack who's gonna blink who's gonna blink who wants the volume back But the pc industry the electronics industry in general Always wants the volume back and unlike what happened with hard drives DRAM DRAM production has not really been disrupted Other than the silicon wafer shortage that's going on right now. So there's a supply Yeah, it's just it's just so much easier for them to control it because with the hard drives It was the motors right at least in this case Um with with DRAM here. It's it's nothing. There's just only three players and I I've seen some comments talking about like Oh, yeah, but it's a free market. So Someone will just come in and undercut them. Blah blah blah blah. It's not gonna happen. There's three fabs. Actually the chinese might They're working hard at it. They've got one at least. Yeah Um, and and even if they even if they don't I mean, it's a volume game once you've got your fab running You they will they they will at times doesn't happen that often But they'll they'll run them at a loss if that's the commodity market It's not that dissimilar from industries like farming which is kind of crazy to think about But once you've made the investment once you've got all the infrastructure once you've got all the trained workers For a short period of time it can actually be less impactful on your business to run it at a loss in the shorter term In order to starve out your competitors. That's how we ended up with so much consolidation in the industry um So I am hopeful in the medium to longer term in the short term this is going to suck Yeah, a lot and so I think we're a hundred percent aligned there. Yes And have you guys done that thing yet? Hold on. Hold on and One thing that's going to suck for maybe the short to even medium term Is that while they are not turning off any capacity other than what is constrained by a lack of wafers Yeah, um the the active decision appears to have been made to not build Any more capacity. I saw at least one of them hit the news for that one of the major DRAM guys I yeah, I haven't seen because if they built more capacity Basically, they they run it. You just run it. You don't just let a fab sit idle Um, and once that happens again commodity, I remind you Prices will be suppressed by increased capacity um But for now it's going to be a really really really rough ride What do you got there? Yeah, two of the biggest DRAM suppliers are skeptical about increasing production as they eye long term profitability Yeah, I mean wouldn't you if WCCF tech everyone Pretty much with two functioning brain cells to rub together Knows that this AI thing Is not going to continue on its parabolic Trend forever samsung and sk hynix. Those are the two Like if you listen to if you listen to, you know, sam altman talk about it. He's like, yeah uh AI forever forever AI to infinity and beyond right like they uh Kind of showed their concerned hand a little bit. They have lately. Yeah So if you were if you were a DRAM manufacturer and you were looking at the currently scaling demand for AI DRAM Would you go? Hmm. I've seen this movie before No, I am not going to 10x my manufacturing capacity Because when the demand inevitably Collapses or at the very least levels off. I'm going to be stuck with You know half a dozen fabs that I just don't have any demand for that's that's going to be a pretty big write down The kind that gets me fired um I honestly can't say that I would do anything windbond now. That's a name. I've not heard in a long time No, he mentioned this in flow plane chat. Apparently they're back in the game Uh, they're making DDR4 Did they ever did they ever leave the game or did they just kind of go go quiet? Maybe they just went quiet I have no idea windbond. I mean it's like dfi like, you know dfi totally still exists, right? Yep, like like dfi land party like the overclocking motherboards from way back in the day. They're totally still a thing They do industrial boards um Yeah, people are saying went quiet. I haven't heard about them in forever windbond. Get me some bh 5 Let's go Yeah, that's interesting. Get me some overclocking ddr 1 Like that's that's the last time I remember windbond really showing up on my radar as a consumer anyway Yeah, they're specifically saying despite the increasing adoption of DDR5 many industries continue to rely on DDR4 for its proven stability And well-established ecosystem windbonds 8 gig DDR4 d RAM is designed for neat Maybe I just haven't been away over them. Oh job would you say samsung is denying that now Oh wait, no, it was responding to another chatter. So hold on. Never mind. Ignore what I just said. I thought they were talking to you um Anyway Oh in other memory news um Samsung is denying reports that its semiconductor division recently refused to give its mobile experience division a 12 month supply of d RAM And instead the mobile division to negotiate requests for d RAM quarterly Stories appeared in scd daily and wccf tech citing unnamed industry sources Um and pc gamer says the stories come as samsung semiconductor is restructuring production lines to focus on high margin products like hbm And low power d RAM According to an update posted by pc gamer samsung says the claim that its semiconductor division has rejected certain customer requests is Incorrect And that recent reports that samsung's ds division has rejected customer requests are baseless and not true We're in close communication with global customers to address industry needs. Okay Because that was that was kind of a spicy That was a spicy little bit of news That apparently samsung's that statement doesn't feel like it rejects the original statement at all. Did I just hear that wrong? Is there aren't aren't they talking about like the claim was that they Refused to award a year's worth of d RAM to their mobile phone division and wanted to negotiate quarterly And the response was we're in close communication with global customers That has nothing to do with the concern, but they're also saying that it's not true that they rejected certain customer requests So what exactly this means? We'll never know um But I sincerely doubt that Your galaxy phone is not going to get me. I was gonna say I I sincerely doubt it matters Like how whether they start doing quarterly or yearly negotiations internally isn't who cares It might be more expensive Hooray, hooray. Yeah, it's almost certainly. It's okay. You probably don't need a new phone. So it's all right Unless you do Which would be a downer you can use one That's true. I mean even I mean we saw it with GPU's even the second hand market can be impacted by our phones pumping right now I won't be too smart. I doubt it. Not yet. Not yet. It'll be delayed Yeah, because I mean that's the thing right is a lot of this stuff is purchased on contract So that's why there were a bunch of headlines over the last probably month or two Saying that oh, yeah, watch out DRAM pricing is going to go way up like the headline started hitting Before the price increases started hitting and they'd be like, yeah, watch out DRAM prices are going up and You know major memory oems are saying that they're completely booked through 2026 like that that's the thing right is we actually Uh, oh, is this one is that one out yet? Is the kyoksia fab tour out yet? I reviewed it, but I don't know if it's up yet Anyway, no, I don't I don't think it is. Anyway, one little one little detail from the kyoksia fab tour that a lot of people don't realize is that The the processes that these wafers undergo for semiconductor manufacturing it's not like It's not like they they they go and they set up the mask and they like you know Hit it with the the deep uv or the extreme uv light and then it's like Yay wafer done It's many many many steps Like hundreds or even thousands of steps that these wafers go through From the very start to the very end they will travel many many miles Throughout the fab to complete all the various layers and steps and and build these things up And it can take not it can take it takes months So the timelines that these companies are operating on are not just like Oh, uh, we got a big order. Let's make that order. It doesn't work like that. It's all forecasting It's all pre negotiation to the greatest extent that they possibly can so it will be a while before this this these Capacity constraints other various devices start to really hit us because I guarantee that someone like apple They hit us now because word computer people Yes But in terms of like consumer electronics I guarantee you that apple is talking to major d-RAM manufacturers Many many months even years in advance sometimes for their product procurement And they are pre negotiating what their pricing is going to be so yeah the the next iphone Might be okay, but if the ai boom continues And they don't build more supply in order to alleviate the supply constraints then the next next iphone might see a significant price jump Or it might not apple apple has margin to play with which sometimes Very very rarely They do use to absorb some increase in materials cost in order to keep their their retail friendly prices Not Not very often, but like on their base tier on their base tier models for instance They can go very aggressive sometimes like man the mac mini They I think they had a black friday deal on it too last week That thing is just such a great value and it's in its base configuration Oh, okay, thanks Dan, uh qxfab tour is coming in 10 days apparently All right. What do you want to talk about next sir? Uh, something else Something else. Let's see netflix. Hooray Uh, netflix makes things worse for everyone again. Wow netflix buying that's what you chose Uh, it looks like this thing has been updated. Maybe yeah, we've added a new thing that happened like today Wow After previously gatekeeping casting from the ad supported plan, netflix has officially removed support for casting to most Devices definitely not all and some of the selection of them are weird, but to most devices Uh, oh boy on all plans I lost there it is Uh, netflix has quietly pushed an update with zero warning and only addressed the growing outrage by updating their help page After Android authority broke the story about in F***ing station on december 1st, uh, the Not so long list of devices is that's still allowed to cast from netflix Um, but still only on the non ad supported plan is the third gen of chrome cast or older What that's a weird choice. This is what I meant. Yeah, um, google nest hub smart display, which I believe is also old Um, select cast enabled visio TVs and select cast enabled compol TVs Okay, uh, the the best guest the best guests that, uh, there's two different writers on this So i'm not sure but one of the writers, uh, was able to find uh, was from pill lamb mod on reddit Who said that casting was the last way to circumvent password sharing rules Before so long as your phone had connected to your home wi-fi within the last month You could watch netflix on any tv including a friends X butters from the same thread, uh had this guess a big factor in netflix price increases are sports broadcasts The move is likely to make it more difficult to stream sports from their phones to large audiences in places like pubs, etc That's actually a super smart take. I would not have thought of that That's like you think there's enough money in like In sports in pubs having one netflix subscription Well, no because if you're in a comer if you're at a commercial address they can gate that They can monitor that Whereas if some if a consumer is there a different price for that? Probably actually that's a good question I literally don't know. I don't know it wouldn't because it wouldn't surprise okay, whether they can gate it by address or by payment method or not because I can tell you right now a service can tell if you're paying on a corporate card Yeah, they definitely like they could do those things. I just don't know if they are if nothing else They could definitely have different terms and conditions And then they could penalize you if you are violating the terms and conditions um Hold on. So yeah, netflix Oh, oh Right, but there's also the acquisition In the background of this The Warner Brothers saying yeah Okay. Oh, man. I feel like I got the I feel like I got the pins the pins and the strings are coming together It's all coming together. I'll keep going Uh, netflix told wired that the real reason for the change is because not enough people use the feature um, which They are not the only ones that are trying to push people to just use Built into tv apps instead of casting Um, a lot of users say that that is better I think a lot of those users are kind of missing the point of that your tv is easy to deprecate which I think we're getting into here in a second. Um, but either way What we'll get there, uh, as a totally unrelated note You can still cast from plex or jellyfin and casting to tv's from vlc has become a much better experience Uh, netflix also announced that's not gonna help you that much with sports, but yeah, go ahead. Yeah, uh, um, uh netflix also announced this morning that they are buying water bros for the total enterprise value Of 82.7 billion dollars The transaction is expected to complete in q3 2026 Uh, one of the notes here is lmao. My favorite thing is that netflix lists As beloved franchise the big bang theory that was said by elijah I mean, I can tell you there are definitely people who beloved the big there for sure are actually my grandparents freaking Love there's actually a ton of people that really like it. And that's also why it got a spin-off. I don't disagree with elijah I'm not necessarily the hugest fan Uh, or a fan at all, but I don't think it's I don't think there's any benefit to putting our heads in the sand and going I don't like this thing therefore no one likes it. Yeah for sure a lot of people do like I definitely I see that attitude so much and it's like Okay, but no Yeah, that's not how that works. You don't get to decide What other people like or don't like you can disagree 100% yeah, I don't think it's good entertainment personally But you don't get to decide that other people do not love it. There are a lot of fans. Yeah. Yeah Numbers is numbers And math doesn't care what you think at all Jeremy said holy should have been a headline topic. I mean, we didn't know about the Warner Brothers thing until after the show started Well, we knew it was rumored. I didn't think it was uh, I didn't think it was confirmed yet Did that just get confirmed today? Yeah Wow, what a what a bomb to drop like what is going to be left Of the entertainment industry Uh I Don't watch shows much. I have no idea like it's crazy like it for a long time there It was being propped up by like cable subscriptions essentially, but those are dying So then now one of the worst things about this stuff is that these types of services tend to kill shows really fast Oh, I know. I just don't bother getting into a show anymore. Yeah, like big bang theory is still old tv Like it's not we're talking something that ran for a really long time and they got spin-offs I'd even argue Wasn't uh, it wasn't breaking bad old tv as well. Mm-hmm. I don't think game of thrones Yeah, I gave it well. That was cable. That was our cable. I thought that was like hbo. Yeah, it was hbo Oh, that was k. See, I don't do any of this. I'm not a i'm not a tv guy Uh, yeah, this is wild. So no so chats like yeah, what type of shows does Warner Brothers have? It's going to be disney versus netflix like yeah Amazon's going to be in there somewhere just because I don't know they have enough money to buy the earth and all the heavens apple Unless they unless they just stop being interested in it um, I don't know apples motivations in the whole traditional media space seem super hard to interpret at this point like they'll they'll do these sort of vanity sort of crown jewel projects and stuff and then I don't know they don't really seem to go super mainstream because they're kind of locked down in terms of access to them and so They don't really get that much buzz and then I don't know they just seem to be kind of spinning their wheels over there Uh, okay. So dc comics is part of uh part of Warner Brothers. Ip really uh, huh? day Uh, what what else what else is in there? I mean animaniacs, I assume harry potter. Yeah, okay harry potter's a big one I mean honestly harry potter is probably Depending on how they play their cards probably worth the cost of admission Alone just in terms of how much people watch the new stuff. Oh, dude. It's not it's not even that It's like the games the volume of uh, well the games Yeah, that that whatever that game was sold like crazy with that said I want to talk about it Like I don't know what Rowling's take is though So I I don't know how how profitable the potter versus compared to you know, the ip's that they own out, right? The lego film franchise apparently uh, that's I I I doubt that that's in perpetuity though Like I'm sure the lego company gave themselves room to negotiate Moving their ip to someone else if they really want to it's like something lord of the rings though Okay, but the lord of the rings one is complicated because Warner Brothers owns the rights to Like the lord of the rings But then there was the whole thing with amazon and the that like rings of power show Where like different parts of the timeline could maybe be licensed to someone else and that whole thing was pretty complicated If they felt like completely redoing the hobbit, uh, that'd be pretty sick Oh, yeah, yeah, that would be that'd be amazing. That'd be cool. It's just deleting that from memory Oh, it was so bad. That'd be totally fine So bad just one movie instead of three make it long have the extended edition be like four hours sure But just yeah the lord of the rings books. It was one movie per book Hobbit is a shorter book 23 books toge kb says it's really weird because there's a uk publisher that can sell harry potter books in the uk and europe But not in the usa because someone else owns the rights to sell it there So who knows how this counts for jk rallying? That's actually a really good point in in in like in ip ownership and licensing um, you can end up with really convoluted structures. Yeah because The whole thing is built up at a time when it's not worth anything in many cases and then The whole multi Billions and billions and billions of dollars empire thing comes later So someone who got in early with a certain slice of rights might have negotiated a really good deal back when it wasn't worth anything And that might end up needing to be grandfathered in and worked around so the whole thing can get super complicated And look chat your feelings on jk rallying are sort of irrelevant here because we're talking about money And whether you like harry potter or you think he should have been a slither in or whatever, right? Doesn't change that money Like dude evan and i were um, evan and i were over in Okay, once like looser or something in the flipping chat said wb had distribution for the big movies But amazon bought the entire ip from the tolkien family. Okay, there you go then assuming that's true that that lays things out a little bit um Anyway, yeah, so we were we were over in london last year Evan and i and like we went to we were just walking around and there was this entire like store that was just harry potter Yeah, um also massive industry. We were at disneyland and or was it disneyland or universal? I can't remember whichever one has that game like i can't constantly can't remember the legacy Yeah, it was one of the best-selling games the year it came out. Just no one talked about it. Yeah, but it sold like crazy Sold like billio. Yeah, so we're we're just talking about how much they paid for this acquisition Yeah, and how much money they're likely to be able to make on it in the longer term netflix is gonna Disney's someone said netflix is worth two two point five times disney. It's nuts Yeah, disney's just getting raked by everyone right now though like and i said rake to just be clear Didn't their last picks our film just like Well, i'm like they're they're they're Thing forever has been uh kids stuff, right? They they get you interested at the beginning and then they keep you interested forever But then the adults are super into like disney stuff and bluey is just dunking them dude Mmm on the on the like actually like kids shows and bluey is dunking on everybody so Yeah, disney Feels like they're falling behind a little bit disney just announced that they are re-showing endgame in theaters What That's wild actually that's kind of sad You know what's really i don't hear anyone talk about the marvel movies anymore any of the new ones Oh, dude. No, well, who cares no one cares at all. Eternals just killed it for me I don't even know what that is so bad. It was just unwatchable. Yeah They they tried to introduce like nine new characters. Oh boy. None of it made any sense in like and and look I'm not i guarantee you i am not the most insufferable Mm-hmm, but actually the canon person in your life but I care I care That you care enough to at least make an attempt to help me with my suspension of disbelief here Like that that's what I care about Lord of the Rings movies had a bunch of stuff happening that didn't happen in the books But it felt truthful to the books. It felt honest to the books and and it was it was it was truthful to its own rules That it established. Yeah. Yeah. So the issue with Eternals Is that it basically took Everything that had happened up until that point which included like endgame and stuff like like like universe level Annihilation s*** right and was like, yeah, these guys They're so powerful that they could have prevented it all But they were sleeping It's like what are you even talking about? Like that's so stupid Don't disrespect me like that. There's different like Uh, man, like I I've heard about the the witcher show. I never watched it, but I heard that it was like Very difficult to keep the showrunners like on lore Yeah, I've heard that about a bunch of different things Well, it's because everyone has their own like ego, right? Yeah, and they want to put their own fingerprints on it Then with like lord of the rings you hear about how the cast and the director and everyone was like would basically walk around set with the books And would just like constantly be reading and try to figure out what their character would do in different scenarios It's almost like you acquired the source material For a reason. Yeah, right and like you don't have to stick to it perfectly It's a movie you have to change some things to keep pace up and do all these other kinds of things But as long as you're like trying to do it justice it's it's a completely different scenario Yeah, and and to be clear there are cases There are cases Where dramatic changes can be made to the source ip and you can still end up with a great product How to train your dragon is the example. I always come back to yeah, okay toothless In the how to train your dragon novels Okay, toothless is like this big And at the very beginning the humans and dragons coexist and the dragons are like Like Basically have the role of like dogs in their in their universe. Wasn't it like the the author like supported the changes or whatever? She was yeah, she helped. Yeah, which is like that's also awesome But how to train your dragon one which other than the main character being named hiccup And his dragon being named toothless And his dad being named stoic like other than names and that it was like viking themed Has nothing to do with the first novel of how to train your dragon and it is a perfect movie Literally perfect I I will I will go on record saying how to train your dragon the first animated film is a perfect movie It's unfortunate that you have to say the first animated film. I know it's tough. It's tough, isn't it? Yeah, it's a hard life It's a hard life Anyway, the point is that Kathleen Kennedy needs to go Yeah, how is she still I have no idea dude. It's so strange. She's squandered like the world's most recognizable ip I genuinely think like that mentality is why disney's dying Like that should have been so the fact that the the new star wars series was allowed to be made Even sort of in the way that it was made is is Must be a I don't even know if it's fair to say micro but microcosm of why disney's dying in general And the fact that that is still allowed to continue is like, uh, yeah, you guys are just screwed Like that is I don't know if leadership is just asleep or what's going on But like who does she have pictures of and what animal are they fucking? That's what I need to know I Wish they could have heard the uncensored version of that I think that was probably funny anyways, but hearing that fully uncensored was great Oh man J. H. Tom says Mandalorian was great though. I only watched the first season It was great Relative yeah to what we'd been getting. Yeah I I completely agree. I enjoyed it. We were that desperate But a lot of watching it. I couldn't get the I couldn't get the brain worm out that was like If the other stuff was like as good as it could have been this would have been mediocre I couldn't I couldn't get that out of my head D. Hollinger says Kathleen Kennedy pushed for andor, which is apparently good I haven't watched I've heard very good things about and apparently the issues with rise of skywalker are known to be pushed by Bob Iger not Kathleen Kennedy Well, then oh my god, he's back too. What are they gonna do? She overlooked the The renewed trilogy thing. Yeah, that was that's enough Yeah, I can appreciate that. She's maybe I don't know done good things since then That should have never been allowed to happen in the first place who was responsible for solo story Because that was that was pretty bad um I have no idea Yeah All right, well anyway, um good luck netflix with your new uh acquisition. I hope that you um Are good to us consumers whose wallets you milk for profit. I was gonna say and they won't be I know which was like proven by the beginning of this topic And like yeah, no more casting. I gotta be honest with you. I I don't cast I used the native apps on That's the problem. Yeah, the timing The timing does look very convenient, doesn't it? Yeah Uh-huh one of our discussion questions we did not Talk about is what streaming service is worth paying for I don't pay for any of them Um, I'm I'm gonna you know what? YouTube premium Okay, fair enough. I think youtube premium is worth it. Is that a It's a streaming service you stream and it's a service. Yeah, and it includes all the music you can eat Yeah That part's pretty good Like I I don't think I okay, so I agree with you. I think youtube premium is sick. I've been subscribed to it for many many years We gain from saying this in a way because if you watch our stuff with youtube premium We get more money. Oh we gain from it directly to the people who are watching right now. Yes Unless they're on full plane lol But another quality streaming service, but yeah, hell. I mean, yeah, there you go. That's uh that that one worth It is very subjective for that one though. I mean, yes the worth is hey like there's the exclusives We really appreciate you guys. We've got exclusives. You get early access to deals a couple times a year Um, but you know that but I'm not we're not saying all of this because it's not really it's not really a streaming service It's more like a it's more like a patreon. It's more like an in-house patreon for a content creator that you like. It's not Because you you you don't subscribe to the service You give a monthly payment to individual creators on float please in that case sauce plus Uh, yeah, okay sauce plus subscribe to the service pretty cool service. There we go Uh, but anyways, all of that isn't for for personal benefit stuff. I I don't subscribe to Basically any of those platforms and the reason why I don't is because I don't like Not owning my stuff. Sure Floatplane Uh, if the creator Decides You can download the content. I'm gonna be honest with you. I have a netflix subscription and Maybe this won't be a popular take with some people I just shamelessly download any netflix shows and I put them on my plex Yeah, cool. I pay my premium subscription every month. They are not getting their like viewer tracking from me, which is part of the value for them I thought they're downloading like downloaded it into a like closed version of the is there. Oh, I don't use that Okay, got it. Yep. All right. Yeah So I just I shamelessly pirate the netflix shows that I give them money for So I just don't I don't care at that point and like, yeah I know that I'm only subscribing to a license to watch them while I'm paying the subscription, but um No, like that that's the point where I'm just like I'm good with it. Yeah Same for amazon. I'll download an amazon show without one moment's hesitation. I have a prime subscription Um, I'm not proud to have a prime subscription these days. Yeah, sure like honestly Um But sometimes it's it's very convenient. I do go out of my way I remember talking to you about this a while back before I buy something on amazon I will search and I'll try to find it elsewhere. Like I needed to buy some rollerblade wheels I got I got trapped this holiday season 80 dollars in shipping To buy rollerblade wheels, but the craziest part is to get quality wheels on amazon. It was like impossible anyway Yeah, so I did search both And I was just like, you know what? No, this is why I search other sites Because I want a quality product and because I wanted to support someone other than amazon That's the fact that I'm paying 80 dollars in shipping. Did it come from europe or something? No shipping's just really expensive for small businesses That's something that a lot of people don't realize anymore Because amazon completely changed people's perception of what shipping costs nuts. Yeah It is crazy. I I got I got trapped. I had to buy something off amazon recently I like I'm not trying to project you guys do whatever you want. I try to really like Basically never shop from amazon There was a christmas list thing and it included an item That is sold Literally only on amazon really you can't buy it directly from the company kindle. You can't buy it was a specific book You can't buy it directly from the publisher or something. You can't the no other bookstore had it It was wild rare. I tried to buy it from like indigo They listed it on their site, but it was zero in any store and zero online Huh, so it was like, okay Neat. I just I can't I asked like I called a couple local bookstores. Nobody had it I think it's just like not a super well-known book. What is it a good book? I have no idea Not for me. Right. Yeah. Yeah, not a single clue. Never heard of it before Hopefully It was asked for But yeah, so I I just amazon was the publisher. No, um, not quite But I yeah, I couldn't get anywhere else. So I was like, okay. Well That's right. Yeah He gave money to daddy bezos. I did he is now part of the solution to putting a penis rocket Into orbit Not much of the solution, but you're part of it. You're part of it one of us one of us just the tip Exactly I try I tried to like I don't know. I didn't want to make my little crusade against doing that Break the bonds of earth to to touch the tip of god There's that you know that like But they like reach past Give a little tickle You know humanity is truly lost Not only not only are we like limp arming and not really trying but instead we're reaching bad. Yeah We won't properly reach out to touch the the hand, but yeah, yeah wash it first. Oh, man But late at night No, but you seem to really love jesus You see like the I don't even remember who it is But the the guy like just partially holding his hand out like enables private browsing All right anyways, we're supposed to explain merch messages. Hey, um, if you don't know what merch messages are They're the way to interact with the WAN Show. We do not want you guys just throwing money at your screen Um, we we want to work for you to throw money at your screen We want to give you something of value in return. And what did we come up with this week? Oh boy, did we ever come up with something luke? Do you want to fire up the site? Sure Oh, right. I was gonna explain so if you're gonna throw money at your screen during the WAN Show You do it with a merch message. You add something to your cart Here, I'll I'll show you how to do it so much going on. Uh, you add something to your cart Sorry, one sec. There's just so much going on and then you'll see the merch message interface. We are live You can leave a merch message. It could look like whatever you want something like this You set a color you set whether you want to make your name appear You want it to be anonymous and then you go ahead and place your order for whatever it is that tickles your fancy Then it will go to producer Dan Who is oh who is joined today? Uh, it'll go to producer. Oh, sorry. I missed you there. Go ahead. Oh, no, I got you again There we go It'll go to producer Dan who will pop it up down here or reply to it or who will curate it For me and luke to respond to we're gonna show you what that looks like in a second But first let's talk about something you might want to pick up with your merch message We just launched our cats versus gamers collection and they are way too fun Our new underwear prints are here with the pixel Perfect set featuring a pixel perfect print a solid turquoise and a cat paws pattern Can you get me a close-up on that? Yeah Oh, I need don't you look at all the little kitties. Can you maybe go closer luke? Maybe give it the old zoom They got the paw prints and there's little kitties on computers. They're so cute We also have the game on set which features a uh, but hold on uh a game on print A solid black and a throwback arcade design if you haven't tried our underwear yet They are super comfy. Thanks to a modell rayon blend that is soft silky breathable and stretch enough for all day Wear thank goodness because if you only wore your underwear for part of the day You're too much of a chad Just too much You might as well just go commando full-time It's that much of a concern that you just don't need your underwear all day. Then why even bother But that's not all we're also launching matching onesies I'm going back to your laptop. Yep How cute are those? They're made with a modell cotton fabric that feels like having a fully legitimate reason to stay in your pajamas All day you can shop the cats gamers collection at LMG.gg slash cat gamer Uh, oh, whoa, what? Oh, we've got another big LTT Store announcement While the site's been blood buzzing with black friday cyber monday and holiday loot drop shoppers our mailbox has been buzzing too We've been receiving your holiday loot drop mail-in entries and some of them are Interesting I've seen this it says do not show the address which did that totally makes sense um I suggested we show this on the show Hold on. I just gotta Are you able to bring that up Dan? Do you have the picture? Oh Yeah, uh Wow That is something um So that was that was one of the contest entries Which you now own I think I think that's how that works. Oh joy Oh my goodness That's right up there with weirdest things I've seen today Today, yeah, I was gonna say all time. It's honestly Yeah, no, it's not the way I mean it's not most of all I've sent you worse things in the last week Yeah, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it took me a second, but definitely Wow I'm almost afraid to open this other one This wait this one. I don't think has been open. Oh, oh, hold on Uh, oh, yeah, this is just this is just the envelope for that. Okay um Anyway, so for context, there was a way to enter the holiday loot drop with no purchase necessary That's a legal requirement in canada. See you later. Um Uh, and so, uh, that was something that was sent to us. Okay Wow um Anyway, uh speaking of loot drops and deals. We're doing a few bonus deals before the year ends Oh, cool. Uh, is this is this like on is there somewhere you can go? I'm checking LMG.gg slash bundle up so you can go there For our us customers From now until december 17th when you buy a commuter backpack, you'll get a free elgato stream deck mark 2 or senheiser 5 60 s headphones your choice. That's 150 plus of savings Also, if you buy an LTT backpack, you'll get a steel series apex pro 10 keyless keyboard for free. That's 179 dollars of savings There are a few more great bundles that you guys can check out here. We've got a CPU fidget spinner plus Corsair Thunderbolt 3 dock for $99.99. All right mcm starter solution plus an m75 air ultra light wireless gaming mouse for 80 bucks We've got the wan backpack with steel series arctis nova forex bundle For 249, which is basically getting those headphones for free um global customers Bad news y'all really took advantage of our free shipping So we don't really have any bundles But what we do have is a bit more stock of our retro monitor pet cave. So we're running that for just $29.99 That is $40 of savings We also have our mcm essentials kit. So our magnetic cable management essentials kit for $80, which is $100 off This is a great time to get into mcm And we also have the razor death adder essential in white for 20 bucks. That is over 50 off So there's lots of value. Uh, do you want to bring those up? I've got a couple. There isn't a bundle page for it Um, but hold on. Hold on. It's not a free elgato streamdecker senheiser headphone for the us site. It's a bundle price Additional $50 only for the item. That's that's that's a thing. So, okay. Thanks arty Cool. Good chat. Uh, lots of value packed in there. I hope you snag something cool for you or your friends and family So hold on. Oh, sorry. There you go. It's just it's not a collection. Wow. We're really just selling just a mouse for 20 bucks Wow, I mean It's good price. What do you want? Wow Cool. We're really good chat. All right. Yep Uh, well, we had them for a bundle at some point, I think. Okay, uh, but right now we have mice right so Neat. So kitties go get the mice Because we're doing the cats gamers. He's he's calling you all cats. Well, I mean, they're cool cats. Oh, wow they're They're so cool. They're five times cool. They're cat five. I you know what? It doesn't matter We also hate mondays. Yeah It is monday, right? I'm pretty sure it's monday. It's been monday for a decade It's been monday for a decade You're just describing your 30s, Dan Oh, no How did you know I was 64? Oh, no. All right. Do you want a couple merge messages? Uh, I do. I do. Hit me with a couple merge messages. Okay. Linus, luke or Dan What is the benefit of using the coarse air Thunderbolt 3 dock over a USB-C hub that has the same ports? Not much Um, actually hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Um, Thunderbolt can do some special stuff. It is a little different. Yeah Yeah, so Thunderbolt can daisy chain, which is pretty cool. Um, Thunderbolt Um, can have more bandwidth available to it. Um, which is also pretty cool. Um I'm not a hundred percent sure which is that a Thunderbolt 3 dock? I think it's Thunderbolt 3. So I don't know if it supports the the like the the boosted Downstream upstream, whichever stream is out of the computer To run more monitors, but that is a benefit of Thunderbolt. Uh, Thunderbolt is also connected to PCIe So you can connect devices that require Thunderbolt rather than ones that run through just a usb controller So running things like e gpus for instance now It is worth noting that that's not super relevant for hub use because you wouldn't want to run an e GPU at the end of a Thunderbolt daisy chain, uh, because it's not going to get the full bandwidth. You're not going to get the full benefit, but Thunderbolt and usb 4 Are not quite the same thing as just a USB-C usb 3 ports. They they do have some special functionality Yeah, it is nicer. I don't know if you'll end up using the benefits, but I mean if you're buying Holy use of dock is worth a lot of money My goodness. What the heck? Of course, their site it's Yeah, but that's let's be real out of stock. So is that just like that's pricing that was just never updated after this was EOL'd probably it was EOL'd. Okay. Yeah, so they were trying to flip the rest of stock So to be clear it's worth somewhere in between zero dollars and that much It's just a lot for a dock, but it's a nice Thunderbolt. I'm not saying like, oh my god. You're getting a crazy deal I'm just saying it's a lot for a dock Bad docks. I don't know if this dock is necessarily good or not, but bad docks can be really annoying I'll say that much. Yep Yeah, this one this one seems fine We've actually bundled this dock before and we've had perfectly good feedback on it's a Cromulant Thunderbolt dock. Nice Right, well, that's what you got. U-Trolls says is there no bundles for the global site. So this is the whole thing You know how our Certain customers in certain regions have asked us many times very calmly and quietly Um, why do you not have a distribution center in our region to lower our shipping costs? It's because there is a lot of cost and a lot of overhead involved in having multiple distribution centers and a lot of just administrative burden and this is one of the things that I'm talking about because absolutely nailing your stock distribution when you order in is practically impossible That thing that he just said and you guys had a better deal realistically during the black friday sales where it was a hundred dollar threshold But it was a hundred dollar threshold for the canadian site or the american site Meaning the american site's threshold for free shipping was effectively a hundred u.s. Dollars Yeah, this is a hundred canadian dollars, which is very different. So what we discovered was that um Global sales go burr when there's free shipping when there's free shipping at such a low threshold I don't know that we will do a low threshold like that again Because the global site vastly outperformed our Um our expectations For the mix compared to the u.s. Site. I think it's also a factor that the u.s. Market is a little bit Um challenging right now I've heard I've heard scuttle, but that it was a relatively slow black friday period in the u.s. This year Which totally makes sense given that I've heard that there was less sales volume But technically more sales dollars our margin was higher. Yes I can it sounds like margins are up Overall sales volume is down It's almost like all of these things that we've been talking about for the last little while are just kind of true Where it's a it's a small slice Of the american consumer and that small slice Isn't going to care as much about the like, you know Stampede over each other and have deaths trying to get into best buy type of sales They're just going to buy luxury stuff that they want. Yes at and they might have just been waiting I don't know a good deal is cool But like yeah, it's not the same. We don't have the same level of black fridays that we used to have it's just It's kind of a fact. Oh speaking of there was our cool little piece of news that i'm not sure if it yeah Oh, oh, this is so sick um New york introduces a new algorithmic pricing act. We never did any merge messages Dan. What you did one We did one. Did we oh, okay cool Uh, all right, sure. Let's let's move on. We'll do more merge messages. We'll do more later New york attorney general leticia james has issued a statewide consumer alert Following the rollout of the algorithmic pricing disclosure act, which is now in effect The law requires most businesses using algorithmic or surveillance pricing to clearly disclose when a price is being set using a customer's personal data Companies that fail to do so can face penalties of one thousand dollars per violation awesome This is awesome very cool Based even yes algorithmic pricing systems if you're not familiar with them Adjust prices based on factors like location Income browsing behavior and past purchases meaning that two customers may be charged different amounts for exactly the same product The attorney general is urging new yorkers to compare prices across devices Accounts and locations. Hey now's a perfect time to shout out our vpn partner p.i.a You'll find a link to them down below And file complaints if disclosures are missing Affected businesses are now required to display the statement This price was set by an algorithm using your personal data This is a step in the right direction Or hear me out What if we just Don't have algorithmic pricing What could we make our way could we make our way there? would Geographically set pricing count as that because are they pulling in your location? Does that count as that? Because that has often been praised Yeah, well hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on. Let's back up. Let's back up a second here. There's always There's always unintended consequences and the last thing that I want is for someone from Turkmenistan To all of a sudden not be able to afford any of the services they use because they have to like pay in us dollars or whatever That's not that is not what I want Um, okay, and I don't think it's quite as simple as just setting You know having a different domain that is just like cheaper because then everyone will buy it Just use it. So you'd need to grab some amount of That's okay. Okay. Okay, but but okay, but it's clear that there's elements of algorithmic pricing that they just shouldn't be using Why do you need my income? Yeah, and they do that. Yeah, you don't need that. Yeah to set a price the price should be the price Hmm Man We'll see we'll see how it goes. I in general seems like a cool idea. Yeah, I mean at least If nothing else this is this is a start This is awareness. Yeah raising awareness for how your data is being used. I'm just I'm just worried that if it ends up on Literally everything or not quite okay relax not quite literally everything but close to everything um, I'm a little bit worried that People will just become numb to it because it's on everything because it also includes geos. Yes I'm worried it's I would like this to really go after things like where it's taking in your Your income or or or how frantic you might be For trying to book a flight or knowing Because of email scraping or some junk like that that there's a or or you know data sharing That there's a funeral that you have to go to so you're probably not going to miss that flight so they can upcharge you Whatever this is a thing that they do um I would like it to be able to focus on stuff like that. I would like the threshold to be a little bit up Just so that we don't become desensitized like as you said we a lot of people have with cookies The wudow of what and for plain chat says how the f can they even know about my income? Well, that's why I think this is So based because all of a sudden it's going to make you ask that and there's So many ways like I don't know how careful you are about the way that you post online. Maybe maybe you're super careful But something as simple credit card company might sell your data uploading. Oh, okay that too, but okay, let's And your bank and your insurance company and everything else I mean Yeah, a credit score would be one that company that you Used to send out rsvp's for your wedding might sell that data So people can tell these sites can tell if you're going to a wedding or not Yeah, um, there's like that type of stuff all over the place Yeah, your data has value you you all know that your data has value But this is one of the ways that your data has and we can even quantify it We we can actually quantify how much value your data has by just looking at products that have an ad supported version And then have a no you just pay for this version or like a data supported version rather So like facebook for instance has in the in the eu They have paid versions of their accounts. So you you can you can quantify like exactly how much the average person's Data is worth. I mean we saw with the with them. Was it the meta quest two? Or the one was the first one that had a non Facebook account version that was like double the price or whatever it worked out to Like the the ad subsidy that goes into products is more than you would more than most people would think Yeah, I think I mean there's there's that classic story people in full planchetta pointed out But we've talked about this on wansha before target figured out that a girl was pregnant before Like a high school age girl was pregnant before her dad did Really yeah, because of like shopping habits and credit card spending and stuff I mean, was it as simple as like buying pregnancy tests or like don't well that doesn't say that you're pregnant Right. I mean if you bought like five it might yes Um, but yeah, I'm not sure exactly what it was but something along those lines Funky shark 88 says and yet companies floated by just fine without the need to sell supplements and vitamins apparently in decades gone by um Yeah Yeah, yeah, they did. I mean I um Makes I I remembered it being before she knew herself as well But I just looked it up and everything says it was her dad So I think we're I think we're just remembering correctly Mandela affecting ourselves here. I think so. Yeah Yeah, I don't know LTT Store manages to exist just fine without selling company or company without selling customer data um, I I don't really I don't really see why this has to be done either There are industries that I do understand why they've moved that way. Um, I don't like it. I hate it in fact um, the airline industry is one for instance that has Been under a lot of self-imposed pressure to to grow in volume and therefore has made a lot of questionable decisions to to maintain profits um Like I don't know it's I was talking to Yvonne about this the other day Like when we were kids Both of us like our family is growing up. We had like Two vacations our entire childhoods that were like fly somewhere three. I think I think I was I was at three and like I don't know talking to other parents at the school man. There's families that like Go somewhere every year early. Yeah, like they fly somewhere every year. Yeah, and yeah, that wasn't us either Yeah, I that like wasn't that I don't think that was a thing when we were kids Yeah, I don't think so and so in order to and so coming back to what I was saying about how when you build the capacity You like kind of have to use it um So if the if the value of the seat goes down Then you have to squeeze other places in order to maintain your profit I think they've done to themselves this race to zero dude. I was at the this is only tangentially related But I was at the airport uh lax And my gate so from from security All the way through to the end of the walkable area. I checked every single store that sold bottles of water Every single one of them only had the really expensive Like fancy like path or whatever like the the metal or fiji. No not even what really they only had metal bottles There literally wasn't a single like cheaper plastic bottle thing and these are like Really expensive like more expensive than all of the other drinks there bottles of water And it was every single store in the entire Whatever you want to wing or whatever it's called um It was brutal It was really brutal. I'm trying to find a picture right now water you just screwed I took a picture of a sandwich that I refused to buy on a recent trip because I was just So I was like Like offended by the price legitimately So upset by the price of it that on my way out of the store. I like made a comment to another customer just Just because I needed someone to talk to about how ludicrous This price was I I don't know if I'm going to be able to find it but uh I was just like I would rather look and I'm not going to pretend Let's make this abundantly clear. I'm not going to pretend that I couldn't afford to buy it. I could But I wouldn't people in full plan chat are talking about how there was a Uh, here it is. There's a dude who bought something in cash at walmart and he got an email later on asking to review it Because he used like biometric camera data stuff. Oh my god. Yeah Shoot, did I not? I didn't there's a class action lawsuit from 2022 of walmart, uh Collecting storing and using customer biometric data Dang Dan i'm gonna send this to you. It wasn't a sandwich. I uh, I misremembered it and unfortunately I didn't write down the price. What I do know was that it was over 10 us dollars um Yeah, so someone in full plan chat said now that walmart cash transaction is bs. Yeah, I can't find like real facts on it I just found like someone's like selfie video. I don't know. Okay, Dan throw this up doesn't necessarily mean much So by the time I converted to canadian, I was basically going to be like eating quarters essentially So what do you guys what it came out to a carrot? Yeah, you've got some carrot slices. Yeah some cucumber a little bit of ranch dressing So this was at c-tech, uh, seattle airport And I just I just I wanted some I wanted like some vegetables because when you travel I don't know what it is, but I just I have a hard time finding like no, I absolutely agree because you're always eating out And like when I was at defcon I tried to stop at a little corner store to get some a little like fruit and vegetables little thing because I was like Oh my god, it's just garbage everywhere. Basically. Yeah, and the cashier warned me. He was like you probably don't want to buy that I was like why and he's like Uh, like because there's no pricing on really anything. He's like, I don't remember what it was, but it was something like I was actually somewhat stunned at how I don't remember how much it was. I wish it did But he I was I like banked him and put it back and was like, yeah, I mean Yeah, that is too much. I refused to buy it. It's just like I I'm not gonna like I've I've never really been able to Get get over the like How much because I I don't know. I don't know. I just have a busy brain And so I'm always doing the math of like How much per when I'm when I'm doing something sure so like paintball I I really I really struggled when I played at like the commercial fields Because I'd be like nickel nickel nickel Quarter Dollar dollar. Yeah, you know, I missed all of those it cost me a dollar to do nothing Yeah, like I just cost me a dollar to give my position away. Yeah, right exactly. What what a terrible value And so I I don't I have to get mad at the other people because it like it cost me three dollars to cover you And you just ran out and open got shot. Yeah way to go. Yeah I mean, I wasn't that toxic about it But it's just it's something that's in the back of my mind is distracting Whereas when I when I just play like woods ball like outlaw ball, then it's like whatever, right? You just you bring an entire case of paint and you're down to like, you know a penny or two For for each round easier to ignore. Yeah, it's easier to not have to think about I just don't want to have to think about it You know, I want to enjoy the game and I can't enjoy that veggie platter When I'm going how much was it sorry? Quarter, you know, I it was it was like nine or ten us dollars or something like that It was like 15 bucks canadian by the time I converted it because I just it's just offensive Yeah, just or 14 or 13 or something like that just just offensive Um, jhcom asks how about fireworks? honestly Exactly the same thing. I love fireworks they're so cool and we In my children's lifetime They have had a home fireworks display A modest one very small one time so that They can remember that we did fireworks one time It's also like a major pain in the butt because of all the regulations around And also the cost so it's a pain in the butt and it's expensive We did it one time and hopefully they remember it because I don't think we're going to do it again because it was like $200 and we burned through all of it and like I don't know 15 minutes or something like that It was like the the lowest the lowest value per hour Thing that we probably did that year or the highest value per hour thing we did that year It's rough. There's a like kind of block party thing that happens for halloween somewhere that I know And they're in like it's not actually a cul-de-sac, but it's a little like kind of loop thing um And they fire off fireworks like basically all night like they start at like I don't know probably Six or seven and they go until probably at least 11 and it's not It's not extremely high rate, but it is constant and I have thought before of like dang I think there's probably a few people contributing to this but dang Like you said 15 minutes is not and you're literally burning money and exploding it Thank you for that Did we did we start a topic what are we I don't know I was going to ask well, I think uh I think that was algorithmic price. You know what else has exploded Is Intel's GPU market share? Oh, let's go according to tech spot and john petty research q3 saw both AMD and Intel expand their shares of the discreet GPU market with AMD increasing to seven percent And Intel reaching a milestone one percent Jan's getting it on the action It might be rounded up. It might be like point six. Listen, I don't know But not being zero is cool because we need competition It might not be a card for you now, but it might be in the future and that's the cool part NVIDIA. Meanwhile has Suffered a drop in their market share to 92 percent Oh, no. Oh, no poor NVIDIA. Whatever however will jensen afford his leather jackets now He probably doesn't even want that 92. He probably just feels obligated at this point Well, everyone expects this of me. Yeah, I saw I saw an interview of him recently that he's like Yeah, I work seven days a week because I fear bankruptcy. I mean if I was if I was at the the sort of Arrow tip of a bubble headed towards the popping of a bubble. I'd probably be worried about that too But I don't think bankruptcy is ever going to be a concern. Mr. Huang Um I think that it's more just like not being you know One of the like handful of richest people in the world is is uh at stake here Yeah, any who data center gp board sales are up an average of 145.5 percent compared to q2 So so those are doing fine Just fine and NVIDIA's market share in that space might be even higher. Uh, I remember chatting with the guys At sfu and they wouldn't confirm this. I'm not going to put any words in their mouths. Okay, but my speculation They had one machine With AMD instinct in it one And my speculation as to why they had that one machine because at that point you might think Why bother right? Yeah, my speculation was So that you can point at that one That in the background you're kind of beavering away seeing if you can do stuff on And so you can make a little bit of progress on that so that whenever it's time to buy the real GPU's you actually want You can point at that and go okay, but we could also run it on this so make sure that your price is competitive with this That's as far as I can tell the only reason they even have it Because they're doing all the real work as far as I can tell they wouldn't confirm this On NVIDIA Dang, but hey this ties in nicely to our dam is winning somewhere to our next topic Which is can you buy an Intel arc b580 for ms rp? The answer is Yes, you can even get an Intel holiday bundle with purchase limited offer. What is the Intel holiday bundle? Let's find out. I don't know Is it the same as last time? Where is it? What's the what's the holiday bundle? You just click on it you butts Can you click on it? No, I can't I'm trying to click on it. No, we're not there Down a little bit below the blue box right here. Oh, oh Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's a battlefield six a bunch of stuff. Oh, you can get one of four games Okay, cool dying like the beast assassins create shadows siv seven in battlefield six. What are the other what are the other things? It's live. That's the promo end date january 31st, 2026. Let's go pick those games bonus content Whoever who cares about any of this it's in game garbage. Yeah, don't worry about it. But this you pick one of these Nice, that's pretty cool. Intel holiday bundle. I think they remember me. I think this is the same one they had before Yeah, but it wasn't running for a bit. Yeah, it's so it's back Well, no, if you look at the dates it was maybe they just pulled it off the site They might have run out of coupons or something because you know Intel like has to pay for this right? Yeah Yeah, that's that's the thing a lot of gamers might not necessarily have realized back in the day Like I remember having to admin these programs when we'd sell a g4c GPU or radion GPU or whatever and you get a you get like a coupon with a Metro Exodus or you know, whatever metro 2033 code or whatever um, is that like they they buy copies of the games so you can like run out of how many they bought so They may have run short. They may have restocked. I don't know because I remember we did this one week And it was running in canada and it like wasn't running on new egg or something So, uh, oh right. What's our affiliate code just in case? Uh, does anyone remember? I don't remember Jawa juice in full-point chat said pro tip. Don't pick sieve 7 Badan and full-point chat said zero of 10 game. I would also throw my hat in the ring as a genuinely lifelong sieve fan Uh, I would avoid it At least for now. My brother told me it sucks. Dude is a big sieve guy not good Okay, if Sean says it's bad, then it's bad. They need oh, that's true. He's got like 10,000 hours hours in sieve got so high that in steam it rolled over and he went back down to zero and then kept going up And he does not like sieve 7. Huh. Yeah, my doesn't display five digits. My brother was like Super not into that you're that you like Can't just stay genghis con the whole time. I knew exactly what he was going to say because that is Garbage, I also don't bad decision. I think they got rid of one more turn as well So it just kind of ends like you can't just keep I didn't even know that part because I played exactly one Campaign and when it ended I quit immediately because I committed to doing it one time And then wow, there were so many Fundamental bat this was the first every time, you know sieve comes out and when you first get it It's not going to be that great and then the expansions tend to make it really good. That's what happens like every time sieve 7 I don't think they can save it. I think it is fundamentally like flawed as a game Which sucks because there are a couple good ideas It's LMG.gg slash new egg if you guys want to pick up a b580 that makes sense. That's pretty easy. We should Remember I know I keep forgetting me too Anyway, the point is you can pick up an onyx lumie arc b580 12 gig remember 12 gigs vram. That's going to matter 249 99 it is worth noting that these are a gen 4 by 8 interface So if you do not have a gen 4 board and it doesn't support rebar, I would not recommend a b580 Because if you have a gen 3 board, you'll only be getting gen 4 by 4 equivalent bandwidth and it's That's where you start maybe running into a little bit of trouble and if you don't have rebar You're going to have a pretty bad time resizable bar. Just check your BIOS. Make sure it supports it You can also get an as rock challenger arc that also qualifies for the holiday bundle so you can get battlefield 6 or Some other games But probably battlefield 6. You can also get the Intel first party card for 249 99 that also has the holiday bundle Lots and lots of options for arc b580s for 249 99 ms rp Seriously though Now is the time because d RAM price increases are going to impact everything that has a d RAM chip in it And that includes GPU's. I think the the the new year is going to be a serious hangover for GPU sales when pricing Yeah, we'll see starts to increase again Uh, just for our point of clarification on what matters how much we're not a game review thing But whatever job would you said you can keep the leader but the sieve changes So you could still play as gangers con but you become the leader of a different civilization that does sound correct That's even dumber. It's very stupid. Sorry. I I haven't played it. So I was just going based on my brother We went to visit him a little while back and he was just like going off about like what a piece of it It also like wipes all your troops and like spawns and stuff when the like age changes It's very very weird. It's super super weird. I haven't like really played a sieve game since sieve 2 so Yeah, uh, they've all operated on the same kind of idea I just know the whole time that great wall of china early is op so that nobody can start a war with you Then you go get leonardo's workshop so that all your crap Garbage tier Phalanx's or whatever that you build will become like riflemen and then you go hard into science And then you win That's all I know Things have changed a little bit since yeah Um, see there you go. But yeah, I was it was this was like the biggest change. I would say um In the sieve line was sieve 7 and a lot of the change some of the change was kind of cool a lot of the change was really bad uh Jawa says but hey, you can sail through rivers. So it's all worth it All right That part is kind of neat All right, cool. Yeah, I mean I could see that being not worth the downsides. I could do that being kind of at all Cool, that'd be cool You can you can sail in rivers, right? Yeah I was very frustrated, but it is what it is. Oops. Oh shoot. I just oh man What's the open up the last tab I closed I always forget the short they need Luigi back, dude They need I that was I forgot that that was my conclusion, but it was they needed Luigi back like like that Luigi Yeah, that's right. He worked on sieve And he did ux Stuff and the ux and sieve 7 is really bad. He could he could do ux design from prison, right? They should let him do that I mean it might help it might save that company If there was a luigi expansion to see yeah, like if he If he kills one company but saves another Does he go net neutral does it work that way come out in the wash? I think in this case, he's definitely in a positive Um, I am not taking a stance on that That's fine. Um Anyways, yeah, let him uh, let him work from prison. Let him fix let him fix one of these Let him fix sieve 7 that'll be awesome It sounds a lot like 6 7 the kids will get behind it I'm uh, yeah, uh, yeah. Yeah. I mean wow. Yeah, um We could move on. All right. Yeah, that's probably good How how is his case going anyway? I'm I'm sure the I'm sure the kids are keeping up with it Hopefully well Wow, that's crazy. He's actually the first autocomplete for luigi not like, you know that luigi um Here you update update is one of my autocompletes. Okay pretrial hearing Uh postponed due to illness. Okay, so that's the um Oh video shows luigi saying he didn't want to talk police kept asking questions Hmm interesting. I think that's how that goes Yeah, I think that's pretty normal But if they can make the argument that he was like coerced in some way Um, and that it violated his his rights Or whatever then I mean, we all know that it's at this point or not at this point We all know that in many cases It's not about whether the person did it Oh, yeah Yeah, it's about whether they can find a loophole, right judicial not justice. Yeah, you know the the glove defense Yeah Anyways, uh Ioneo's next two has a massive battery. This is hilarious Ioneo who are known for making Windows handheld gaming devices announced their next two Powered by the AMD Ryzen ai max plus 395, which is a really long name and draws 85 watts features a 9.06 inch screen 165 hertz to 2400 by 1504 a lead screen and probably the craziest spec is the 115 watt hour battery That is literally so big That i'm pretty sure you're not allowed to take it on a plane This battery size means that most airlines will require approval in order to allow that device to be brought on as a checked Oh, well, you don't put batteries in your checked anyways. No forget checked. I don't think you could even bring this It says checked item. I'm pretty sure they mean cabin item Uh, there is no pricing yet or full spec sheet, but Ioneo stated that they will reveal more soon Oh, sorry about that. I can uh, I can turn that off. Um Sorry, yeah, it is a unified don't worry about it That's one of the reasons my my laptop has two batteries in it instead of one giant battery Because two batteries is not one battery and therefore it is Below the limit that you can take on a plane if you total all the battery banks that I carry in my bag I'm way above. Oh, yeah Yeah, so if they had put two giant batteries in it, you would be fine, but it's not it's not about that It's about how much energy is in like that one. It's like it's it's kind of like you could bring You know a hundred firecrackers in your car, but one grenade is a bigger problem if that makes sense Is is like it is a function of just like how much energy is in it and stuff Uh, we'll set off with me. My own battery is really fast, but does does another thing on fire I believe it doesn't help. Yeah. Yeah, uh, because it's it's it's reaching the thermal runaway point is where you where you run into trouble um Another oh shoot. I was thinking there was something I was going to say too about oh Yeah, another major factor that I didn't think about until I had to research this because I got my battery bank confiscated on that last trip to China But the actual state of charge matters a bunch, which makes sense. Yeah, it does if you think about it I'm surprised they're willing to even bother. No, they're not. Oh, but I just I was I was just learning about it I understand um, and I didn't realize that it's way safer to travel with your batteries discharged which Totally totally makes sense. It does because there's like way less energy in it. Yeah, um But I just I never thought about that before. Yeah me either. Yeah Uh, you said something Dan Full plane announced I think we already did that I think I think we did that it's just funny It has a giant battery in it. So you can't take it on the plane Unless you had a gamer plane Then maybe you could wow you could then you could because the only justification you'd need is so that I can game I'm going to game hard and long and fast and fast And strong because my my poor forearms I've been uh, I've been using the gpd win five lately And I have found that it actually makes me want to game less How much does it weigh inside of it? Uh, it's like a good couple pounds Gpd win five. Wait, let's see what the ai says Uh varies depending on whether the external battery is attached Um with the external the total weight is about a kilo. Yeah, just over two pounds according to ai but that does sound about right it's Redunculus like I actually find myself because I'm I'm supposed to be using it for a review and I might just give up Because I I go to my nightstand and I have my Original rog ally with the battery mod So it's already a bit on the heavier side because I did the like the modded bigger battery in it I have not upgraded to the x I um You just not care Yeah, yeah It's faster But when I like when I finally play clear obscure or something Then I might like when I play a game that actually demands more GPU Yeah, then I might but lately the vast majority of my hours of handheld gaming have been final fantasy tactics A playstation one game And tape to tape which is barely even 3d. Yeah, so I just don't need it. Uh, so I've still been using my first gen ally Like if they bring me a better display or something like come on man do something that matters to me and I'll upgrade It's just I don't even because like I could just grab one from the warehouse But it's not even worth Just like resetting up Windows and downloading my games for the difference that it would make in gameplay to me right now So anyway, so anyway, the point is in my nightstand I've got my I've got my rg ally and then I've got the gpd win five right now And so two just breaks and and I just I just am like I could grab that And I could use it and then I could make notes for the review Or I could just Enjoy playing my games more. I feel like noting the amount of times that that happens is part of the review Yeah, like if you're like I very consistently Chose maybe 50% 50% of the time. You know what though? I haven't because it's kind of a pain It's like it's like a screw type mechanism. You can you can hook up the battery on a tether So I haven't bothered hooking it up like that yet because it's kind of stupid And it's just like it is another level of the inconvenience like now I have weight and inconvenience But what I'm going to do is I was going to use it with the the pack attached to the back for a while And like see how I feel about that And then I was going to move to the tether and then see if that changes my habits It feels kind of like 90s sick to To have a battery pack external battery. The 90s was objectively a terrible time for battery powered electronics No, it wasn't it was remember when you had to put like four double a's into the handle of a digital camera Like that was not good. It was awesome. That was bad and that was the 2000s Man, I remember I remember this rc car that I had. No, I've talked about that on the windshow before I even found a picture of it monster Six by six rc car or something like that. Where is it? Where is it? There's like there's this Thing that's like the 90s and very early 2000s was a point in time where technology was like awesome and made your life better But it wasn't like so good or all consuming that it also Attempted to ruin your life and I I embraced that a lot I think part of like batteries being kind of bad is like, yeah, your thing dies and then you probably want to go do something else Which is like potentially a good thing Man, I can't find it again, but I it was like this like six wheel RC car here at 90s. Let's try. Oh, yeah. Here it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah this thing This this piece of shit took like oh, I pressed the wrong thing. Whoops. What is this someone like the point is This piece of garbage took like 12 double a batteries or something like that. Hell. Yeah, and the rechargeables that we had back then were not very good So they didn't last very long um And even disposables like barely lasted in the metro scorcher six by six fastest turbo 360 degree spins ever And also only the middle wheels drove. That's why it could spin really well um Man, where's the this might be a later version of it because mine definitely Mine definitely took double a batteries. I miss everything being turbo. I like turbo turbo is a good turbo tastic Yeah, um, anyway, I also had I also had one of these ricochet RC car this thing ran for like I want to say or did I have I had either the ricochet or the rebound this thing was super cool because It could flip over And then you could keep driving it as long as you could could do it backwards. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um That's cool. There's finesse in that. Yeah, it ran for like six minutes. Hell. Yeah on battery. It was so dumb Hell yeah 90s 90s battery powered electronics were objectively terrible and I will die on that hill. Nope I will die on that hill disagree. I'm dead now then because realistically I wasn't going to win a fight between us Way to go luke you killed me Mark this day in your calendar folks. This is the anniversary of my death Uh Speaking of things that make me want to die. Uh, no, no 60 million yen human washing machine revealed Uh, this is so funny, which by the way 60 million yen is 386,759 dollars and 94 cents in usd It's a like a shower that you sit slash lay down in. Okay. I low key love the name of this company though They're just called science That's kind of awesome. Yeah, I do give them that. Okay. Hold on luke Hear me out. No this Merai, no just get open-minded for a second. Just just just just okay. Look, okay open-minded brain is open Open mind. Don't worry about this. Don't worry. Just be brain open. Okay The merai human washing machine Okay Can shower and dry a person Simply by them lying down in it Uh-huh in about 15 minutes, which there is some like excessive. Oh, man. That's not even fast. I know, right? I'm pretty sure I showered faster than that this morning. That is the very first paragraph of this article on the chosen You just like focus on the task at hand. You can just do that faster in a normal shower Is this is this supposed to be impressive that you could shower in 15 minutes? There is potentially some accessibility Coolness sure and this sure and the way it does it is cool like it almost sounds like an ultrasonic cleaner or something Apparently it uses ultra fine micro bubbles Invisible to the naked eye to penetrate deep into the pores to remove impurities such as dead skin cells and sebum sure Sensors installed on the back detect health status And videos and music are played to help users relax during the cleansing process Yeah, I just turned the volume of my phone up and leave it outside of the shower. Yeah, you could do that You could do that Yeah, do be clear. This is not a real product They're making like a few dozen of them and it's for like it's meant to be a novelty item for commercial installations I do know like, you know old folks homes or limited mobility people etc. Sure showering can be a This would not be the right form factor for that though. Like I don't know if you've ever seen like a senior's bath Yeah, they need like the little door. Yeah, you have a door and you like this looks like you have to climb into it Yeah, so this is like I do like the idea of like a automated human washing thing because I do know that it can it can be like Man, I don't really want to say it but it can be like embarrassing for for people to have to be like washed by someone else Stephen j says that clean time is the equivalent of saying this computer will boot and just the time it takes for you to eat breakfast It's like, yeah Like if I'm in a hurry, I can be in and out of the shower in about three minutes I know this from my years in high school of getting up at the last possible What are your what are you if you're going down to three minutes? You're you're probably giving something up So what are you doing? Uh at three minutes. I'm not conditioning. I'll tell you that much. Yeah, and I'm probably using shampoo So shampoo for body watch. Yeah Yeah, so I so I so yeah, it's you're going on a hard requirement. We're down to one soap Yeah, and no conditioner. Yeah, and and then are you are you like lathering in the hair and then like taking that and going elsewhere No, you've got time to squirt you've got time to squirt another pop before before you do the pits and the elsewhere There's there's no way you're doing like a full body lather at that speed though Yeah, but I would throw in feet. You got to do you kind of got to do your feet. You got to do feet Yeah, yeah, there's no way to skip the feet You Good good wet show conversation. Yeah, we just saved you 60 million yen. You're welcome And a lot of I mean that's five times faster or something All right, time to do the Floatplane announcements Uh, we had a little throwback Thursday on Floatplane this week. Do you want to fire up Floatplane? Yeah with three amazing exclusives. Oh no, this one's up We've first we've got Me react the exclusives are on the other you go first We've got me reacting to staff's first time meeting me that released on Monday And it's safe to say that people like seeing me in uncomfortable social situations. Oh, yeah, they do They like it a lot Or mostly they like me recalling times that I created uncomfortable social situations Linus is suffering Oh Boy, yeah, that's all just screen grabs from the video that is not me posing for the thumbnail I did not know that sammy was going to do that. I saw the thumbnail Um, anyway Colton's in there. Yvonne's in there There's there's some good ones. All right My problem with ours is I think I'd have to watch back Us talking about it like years ago because I only remember like some of the details at this point. Yeah, that was a long That was a long time ago We also had a section of the writers discuss Linus's hot takes Where they discuss wireless peripherals and finally Luke did you know that ploof who owns a display has been at the company for almost five years now I honestly thought it had been longer, but I know that as of yesterday because uh christmas party Yeah, we took a look back at his first videos what he wrote hosted and so on and so forth All of this is at our new link LMG dot gg slash fp wan um Okay, and both but man sammy You are such a unique human Look at this. He is look at this Under cap and uppercase Huh Who would think to write that like that under cap It feels very sammy like don't know why but you know why it's because that's what he sounds like when he talks You know, yeah, yeah uppercase works uppercap works no cap under cap under cap is good. No cap You'll be you'll be all right. Just rip a pack dude. Just rip a pack Literally he did that at the christmas party On stage he just like opened up a pack of pokemon cars. He just actively lost money on stage in front of everyone Yeah, I I didn't really comprehend what I was watching. It was awesome. We do we do we do kind of um team themes We do kind of like uh like it's it's somewhere between dress up and like Doing like a grade six class presentation Way to describe it and uh sammy's team was based on one of our core values, which is level up together So their team, which was actually also luke's team. Yeah, um all created sort of outfits that Uh that represented leveling up together and they went with pokemon So they had they had scientists and they had a couple of pokemon trainers including one on a bicycle Complete with helmet safety first. Thanks, Nate for remembering that. Um, they had some pokemon in their various evolutionary stages Luke was tall grass. Oh, yeah, I don't have a good how does tall grass level up luke? Well tall grass is where you go to level up Dan Yeah, and there was trainers on the tall grass and there was pokemon on the half Dan's just salty because luke's team beat his yeah Yeah, way to lose Dan pretty good way to lose Good job Anyway as part of leveling up sammy attempted to level up his finances By opening up a pack of pokemon cards as part of their presentation of their concept And um instead he leveled up his debt. Yeah Which is yeah, which he also just said in chat is a type of is a type of leveling up as well. Yeah Um weekend jedi 42 asks why are there's no pictures of this? We we decided many years ago that our christmas party was mostly going to be a content free zone We do kind of weird stuff I wasn't involved in the games planning this year but I won't pretend that It was any More weird than some of the stuff that I have planned in the past. You had to like dig through uh containers of like mashed potatoes and dry noodles and wet noodles With a wooden spoon in your mouth to find codes to unlock combination locks. It was a it was a whole thing I don't remember which one of those things but one of those trays like Stank. Yeah, I think it was like alfredo sauce or something rough I look I'm not gonna say I would have done any better But I will say that I was not involved in the games this year Yeah, uh anyway The point is that um We we want it to be kind of a uh, uh, uh Like social media free zone where people can you know cut loose a little bit for for once around here We really appreciate that. We did so nice have to do one short this year But it is very short and it just involves the giveaway of the high sense 116 inch tv We broke policy for that, but yeah spoiler alert exception. Not the rule spoiler alert dad. Sorry. I didn't win it again One time how many how many tickets did you put in? I always do over half my stack In the in the grand prize. Yeah, I did most of because my I saw I went through them before Before I drew and I was like wow dad put a lot of tickets in here. I bought a bunch of people did I know alice and james were also trying to get it. I actually pulled up my Like office model just to check because it's like nine feet wide Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense for me at all, but it would be it would be cool in my dad's place We've been we've been going through every once in a bit. We did I mean we did watch two towers now So there's return of the king left and I was I was sitting there next to em at the christmas party I leaned over and I'll be like it'd pretty you'd be pretty sick to watch return of the king I'll like the enormous tv it would it'll happen. It'll happen sometime Hey, you guys have come over to watch hockey games at my place feel free. That's true Yeah, you could always watch return of the king on the on the slightly smaller 115 inch tv can't do it. You can't it's too small. Yeah, it's too small. You'll have to make friends with the We're not disclosing who it was. Yes. You'll have to make friends with the person who won it Then you can watch on the proper biggest tv. Yeah, there you go Um, what else are we what are we supposed to be doing now Dan? Uh, sponsors one and two. Yeah, the show has brought you today by ugreen During the holiday season we could all find ourselves rushing around Wow, that's I cannot skateboard Oh, honestly, I thought you did a better job than I probably would have really the fact that you stayed up Oh, really? Like once you were actually this you stayed up and I don't know if it was intentional But it looked like you tried to like kind of you know So I didn't used to be able to do that at all, but then I I rode the z-board around a lot. Oh, yeah Yeah, okay. 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Okay You guys watch the WAN Show so you know I don't say this very often But I need one of these Um, I I don't lose my wallet often when you do it when I do it's like really stressful. Yeah, uh, and I really don't like it We need one for Linus You have to put two in one for a personal one and one for so we can find it for you Hahaha No, he meant to find me full of tracking. Oh, he just wants to track where I am It's a concept that we've kicked around a lot either. 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So instead there's just I don't know our website Um, so help your teams get great done with Miro. Check out Miro.com to find out how that's Miro.com All right, what are we supposed to be doing Dan keep us on track Heard some cats. Sure. We could do topics MKBHD's scam wallpaper app is shutting down and Dear god, please I am not calling it a scam. I am just recalling when we discussed it Back when he launched this product and people were calling it a scam And we had that long conversation about how people are using the word scam to describe things that are not scams the product always did exactly what he said it would do which means it's not a scam you just Don't like it Which is a totally different thing anyway Panels is going away on November 30th Marquez published an unlisted video giving an update on the wallpaper app panels announcing that it is being sunsetted For those who missed it panels, which was started by the mkbhd team was launched on september 26th of last year It was an app dedicated to downloading wallpapers for your mobile devices and was immediately met with backlash for A number of reasons with the biggest being the $50 yearly subscription, which again, I repeat is not a scam it just is Of dubious value to many of the folks who evaluated its value people buy art for very weird amounts of money And sometimes that is a scam Yeah, but it's not a scam of the person who's buying the art It's a scam of the tax system. So that's a whole whole separate whole separate deal Marquez did make a follow-up video offering a lot more explanation for the pricing including how it would help support the artists that made the images But as of now the final date for the app is december 31st And marquez explained that there will be a pro-rated refund for anyone who is currently subscribed And this is super cool. And the main reason that I even wanted to talk about this at all He announced that the entire source code will be going up on github for free if you ever wanted to make a wallpaper app And realistically does anybody need this source code? probably not but as But as far as good guy moves go if you're going to discontinue something a pro-rated refund and making the code open source for anyone who wants to Continue it in any way making the source code available This is about the most graceful way you can possibly do it. And I think that's pretty cool That's it. That's all I have to say about that I Cool Next one it is cool dope even you might say Is it dope tech no, okay sounds good Did we talk about cherry yet? I don't think so rip cherry cherry held a patent for mechanical switches and used to be the gold standard for keyboards For keyboard switches. Yeah That patent maybe keyboards if you do like check out systems at vegas for some reason That McDonald's like Yeah, yeah random stuff like that that patent lapsed in 2014 since cherry's patent lapsed competition has slowly But surely but fastly kind of put yeah pretty quick actually push them out of business They're yeah, it says it again it it lapsed in 2014 tons of other companies sprung up And then I never really know how to say these names properly, but gatteron gatteron. I took the easy one texi jwick or jwk etc many the new companies have improved over cherry in the past decade in like honestly a wide variety of ways It's been pretty wild many premium switches now come pre lubed which is a quite a benefit time saver Yeah, like dude lubing switches it's like That's the real reason that all these like tiny keyboard form factors got popular Everyone just gaslit themselves into believing that they wanted a tiny keyboard But what they actually didn't want to do was lube 104 stems. Uh I'm kidding. I know a lot of you legitimately love your tiny keyboards Hot take. I think this is one of the reasons why uh keyboard stuff is getting more boring these days though Is there's nothing to it anymore, but anyways moving on Yeah experimentation with other materials has been a big part of it Cherry just hasn't really been the gold standard for a while And they haven't kept up with things like hall effects or optical switches and whatnot Cherry is now looking to give up its german production and sell the core division You might be like wow that seems like an overreaction. No From january 2025 to the end of september the company made a net loss of almost 20.4 million euros Wow, I'm kind of surprised that was even possible and something that you got to kind of understand is that cherry like keyswitch This is a really really small part of their parent company's operation. It's like kind of Barely even a footnote So the fact that they even bothered for this long is Honestly, kind of a surprise when we were there Which cherry was like much more on top of the world at that time. Hell. Yeah What a great shot. Yeah But when we were there, I remember thinking like oh, this is like pretty small Yeah And then we we couldn't shoot any of it, but uh actually hold on. I'm just gonna check a thing Uh Yeah, okay cool in 2008 Um cherry was purchased by zf so We couldn't shoot any of it, but like the stuff that zf was doing. Yeah for like the automotive industry And stuff was like Oh So they just wanted cherry's ip probably For something to do with their real business and they were like Sure, you keep doing your little thing um Apparently zedaf sold the cherry group back in 2016 But still uses cherry brand. It's okay. This is ai though. So who knows? But the point is they did own them at some point and uh cherry Was later. Oh wow cherry has been sold a couple times. So timeline of ownership zedaf purchased them in 2008 Zedaf sold them in 2016. So this is after the patent lapsed um, and then uh, that was to genui partners and then From 2020 to 2021 was acquired by argand partners uh, yeah, so things have clearly been Circling the drain for quite a while now. Yeah, what do you think? You're gonna buy cherry by cherry No, I don't want them do what with it. Exactly. I have I can't really add anything to that table I mean what they were worth was the ip and the german manufacturing and now the ip is Worthless and the german manufacturing is closing. Yeah, so Yeah, yeah, I think they're just uh, I think they're a relic now make canadian switches I mean would anybody really want maple syrup maple syrup lube. Yeah, I don't think so It'd smell really nice. Yeah for a little while. Yeah, it smelled really bad eventually. Yeah I mean, there's a lot of things that people like really. Yeah, because then you just have to keep buying We finally have a consumable product Yeah, like that'd be oh man Imagine you could make like the world's best smelling cologne, but it only smells good for an hour You know like what a business It was actually the world's best smelling cologne like objectively that would sell like crazy. Oh people would totally do it Yeah, you know who's super into cologne? charotte That makes sense. He gave me like a whole like lesson on cologne when we were stuck in an airport for five hours on that China trip for me. Oh, yeah, he's like And and it's not just like You know, he's like, oh, yeah, here's the one that I have and and I like it a lot You know different ones for different like occasions and stuff because he because because that change with the seasons That's just like, oh, you went on the subreddit and you went to like the pinned one and then you just bought whatever was the top Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. No. He's like here's the one that like I'd love to wear Regularly, but it's like not affordable. But here's the one that you know because uh, you know, what's what's their name? Uh Not mac, but maybe it was mac Basically, he like knew the promotional cycle of one of our local cosmetics chains and was like, yeah So I'll pick up like the big bottle of this from them like during this month when they like have the promo But these ones are really nice and he like shows me a couple. He's like, yeah, they like kind of change over time This one's like fireplace and like, okay, check this out. Okay. Smell it right away And I'm like, oh, okay And then he like like it goes like this with the card and then he actually like carried it with him And then like 10 minutes later, he's like, okay now smell the fireplace one So he had me like smell like a bunch of these and he's like, yeah See how it like smells different now like it was sweet at the beginning and now it's more smoky Like this is like this is like really good. He's like talking me through all this stuff. I'm like, dude I don't know. I just wear my speed stick I just I was gonna say I'm pretty sure you don't even wear a clone No underarm stuff. Yeah. No, I mean as long as I don't stink Yeah, I was gonna say you're not on the there's like a spectrum and it's it's stink to Doesn't smell bad to smells good. And I think we're both getting the doesn't smell bad. That's hope. Yeah That's the goal at least Yeah, I I actually uh It was asked once What I smell like in an AMA And I believe it was because I had some help. Oh, yeah I had some help responding to the AMA from longtime members of the team and ed Was the one who responded to that one. Thank you very much for that And he said I smell like cheap deodorant and cheap hair gel And nowadays I don't wear hair gel anymore. So cheap deodorant. Just cheap deodorant. Nice. That works. That's good It's perfectly perfectly good guy stuff Um, I don't know if I was gonna wear anything I would probably just go for the most basic Possible Not much left. Yeah, I would probably go for the most basic possible thing and I would just wear like old spice or something Yeah, is this could you it could it could would charade be able to like pair something with you? I don't know anything about this But like I honestly think that just like smelling like anything other than just basic would just It wouldn't be right wouldn't fit your brand. It's not even my brand. It's just like I Wouldn't consistently apply it Like I have to be in I have to be in active pain to consistently use a product in the morning and evening so other than other than uh Like teeth brushing you may not believe this Because it's hard to tell right now yellow right now because of the wax that's over top of my brackets Um, which is stained but my teeth are some I like I care about my oral hygiene I I hate bad breath. I like on myself on anyone. I don't like bad breath So that's something that I don't have to remember Um, but other than that like even my anti inflammatory cream for the tennis elbow It's taken me so long to heal because I'd be so inconsistent about applying it about that stuff Like even if I'm actively in pain I will often forget to put on something that I'm that I'm supposed to use Like Yvonne recommended like like facial cleansers and stuff that I'm supposed to use So like I don't know my pores will be smaller or something like you want small pores. Does this matter? Like I just I can't be motivated is pores. I can't be motivated to use them regularly. So I have big strong pores um Oh man, and salmo asks old spice is basic I ain't fancy. I guess old spice is super basic Sherrod would Sherrod would be able to educate you. Yeah, old spice is not. Yeah Yeah, it's literally old It's the old spice And to be clear, I they have lots of other products But when I when I was talking about it just now I was referring to literally like the og like the aftershave smell. It's my original. Yeah. Yeah Syphil, syphilis says old spice has picked up their game lately. Okay. That's cool. Good for them I still think it's normie stuff Compared to compared probably charade could never I I don't think charade would ever I don't think he would ever I'll ask him I'll ask him. It's funny looking at like the the photos at my parents house because you know leading up till grade Five, I don't think you're old enough to possibly care and then in grade five and grade six I cared like a lot about my appearance and you can tell in the photos And then immediately after that I I never cared again And you can tell in the photos I don't know what happened But uh, it's true All right, all right, I asked him we're gonna get we're gonna get the experts take probably pretty soon here It's it shows available on on teams. So we should hear back from me It's middle of a work day, which is weird because when show but yeah, yeah, should be fine. Should be fine. This is this is work Yeah, the the wan people want to know. Yeah All right. No, no, I meant it like Yeah, I didn't mean it that way. I meant like he'll probably be available because three dots. Here we go Here we go. We got the dots the the dots are incoming I asked him old spice. Would you ever? I Love how it's oh the three dots are gone. Oh three dots are gone. He's thinking Like Dio Would I ever wear it lol? I mean the brand I can I can I feel like yeah, I feel like deodorant versus cologne is like a pretty big jump. That's true Okay, so I'm talking more like do they have cologne they must right? I don't know Oh, maybe we're just maybe we're just asking entirely the wrong question. Yeah, we might be Uh, they have cologne. Okay Zen ox LT asks wait, are there deodorant without a scent? I believe so. They're really hard to track down though Yeah, here we go. He sees it. He's seen it He's giving it a think he'll he's giving it a think Should we do should we do another topic in the meantime? Oh, sure. Oh, no. Oh, dude. Oh, dude. We got a strong response Hell no lol. I left that in high school Okay, so there you go boys We we got you your answer Come dig our song cologne. Thanks. I uh, thanks. I'll let the wind come dig our song Yeah, I want to bring it up. No, no come like like in french. Oh my god, stop I will look it up because I can I think I might have found it pretty quick. Uh, oh, this sounds like a store maybe Uh, cool. Okay, here we go. Here we go Come dig our song perfumes Okay, so this is this is apparently this is charade approved. Yeah, and and and they're like packaging is a major factor apparently Okay, I this is not something that I personally can really like understand too much but um You know apparently that's you know a big part of the yeah concrete Dude, I don't know. This is not my world. This is not my world. This is not a thing that I Really understand very well Neat, but this is something that I mean, how much does this stuff cost? Okay, what's the drowning? How much does it cost to smell like concrete? You know sure, let's find that out. I want to know I want to smell like concrete Okay, well we oh my god. These are the only places we can get it What am I even what am I even talking about sure? I'll take your cookies I'm not Okay, let's go with new york because that'll likely be in u.s. Oh Okay, that's not concrete though. Is that a year's supply? First when 30 years ago these perfumes were first imagined Expressing the values of the brand through a new medium to disturb the traditional parameters of the fragrance industry Yeah Okay, that is a job that ai could do To writing the product descriptions for for like bougie Nice. Yeah, I think so I think so. I don't even think anyone's gonna be that mad about it Me saying that I don't I don't even think that's a hot take someone will be All right, do we move on? Uh, yeah. Yeah, I think we move on There's a bunch of no notes Topics. Yeah, we could do a no notes topic sure google has removed the call home and pa style broadcast features from the home app Yeah, that sucks Yeah, yeah A company is using ai Linus to advertise a pirate streaming box on tiktok. That sucks. That's lame Yeah, oh here. You know what do you do anything about that? Are you gonna do anything about that? realistically um You know, they know what they're doing. Uh, yeah, that's not you they're in uh, they're in a region where probably Like if if if there was a way to go after these guys legally I'm sure that the content owners of the content that they're pirating on the U-free box us2 I'm sure they'd be trying so I'm kind of looking at it going. What chance do I have of combating this? um Yeah, this blows never buy from these guys because they're clearly scummy butt heads and also My mouth is not that big. Yeah, that's the main thing that made it obvious. It wasn't you to be honest I guess I could I can no Yeah, because now it's not that wide super round. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, you can't do it that way I can try not quite there. No, I can't quite get there sounds horrible when you do that too listen Okay, don't listen What else we got moving on no notes. Missouri residents searches for vpns have quadrupled After age verification laws kicked in. Yeah, we all knew it was gonna happen. Yeah, this is this is this is gonna be a thing Now's a perfect time to shout out our vpn partner private internet access. We'll have them linked down below um, our discussion question is how could stories like this getting attention put vpns at risk man, ah I would like to think that the us would stop short of outlawing vpns Because that would be like some that would be like some china level authoritarianism. Didn't they very recently like pump vpns like crazy Oh, they like told people. I think it was like the fbi specifically talked about them or something Like it was one agency that talked about them. But the the the thing to wait Shut up Someone said they're illegal in michigan That can't be right Hold on a second. We need to look that up. Hold on a second Hold on a second Okay, ai says no, they are not currently illegal in michigan, but A proposed bill house bill 49 38 The anti-corruption of public morals act. Oh my god Ames to ban the sale promotion and use Of circumvention tools like vpns to access prohibited content like adult sites forcing isps to block them And potentially making tools for remote work illegal though It is though its passage and enforceability are uncertain That is an ai summary Electronic frontier foundation has a great headline on this Lawmakers want to ban vpns and they have no idea what they're doing Yes, yeah, when do they though? Yeah, when doing practically anything two truer clauses have never been attached to each other Before by an m-dash um Outstanding Apparently this is wisconsin michigan and beyond. Wow buzz light year two. Oh, okay. This is over in the uk Oh, man Sometimes I feel like You know you just add those to the doc my north american Cousins i'll highlight it My north american cousins down in the united states of a um Sometimes I feel like There are certain hot button issues That they get really like rah rah rah my personal freedoms about While completely missing The active erosion of said freedoms in much more restrictive much wider reaching ways That um, I just find a little bit baffling I just I find it I find it very confusing um, that there isn't More outrage over stuff like this or those uh, what was that camera surveillance company don't know what they are That surveillance company. Yeah flock the flock camera topic from last week like This is bad and like anyone any individual senator or representative or Uh governor or whatever or any party that is that is pushing this agenda Like I I I I I I would have a hard time supporting them um Oh Yeah, this is this is tough. I have a feeling honestly, they just don't even know what it is I mean what i'm kind of leaning on Because it actually it actually feels like it supports like traditional american values vpns Well, yeah, it's like protecting of the individual from the state. Blah blah blah blah blah And like so I I really think they just don't even know what it is I suspect it's an education problem All right I don't mean traditional education. I don't think you go to school to learn what a vpn is. All right. That's not my point No comment No comment. I majored in pia. Yeah, like uh, yeah I mean, I'm not educated on colognes. Uh, I'm pissed. I didn't learn about that in school Uh, anyways next one This one's a little fun Um, yeah, sure hit me Uh, no notes, but there are some I guess uh discussion Discuss the impact of crawler bots on overall internet traffic using Labs as an example. There are some discussion questions here Uh, what more can be done to regulate crawler bots? Uh, there's some technical solutions Why don't we show why don't we show the graph that you shared with me first? Sure. So there's a few now Because we figured out that you wanted to show this on wans. So we added some info But there's the linked one. So the linked reference image is the one that you initially saw. Okay, so here Let me let me fire that up. Okay. So here's what luke showed me and I was like, hey Wouldn't it be kind of cool if we talked about this? So this is traffic To LTT um to LTT Labs. Yeah that Is non-human um that we were able to trace back to particular ai Crawler bots. And this is a relatively short period of time. We're showing like um early november 26th to Late midday december 2nd. Sorry. Sorry. I'm doing a bad job. What's going on over there? I'm doing a bad job of this there november 26th down there. I was trying to show the date clearer But whatever i'm just gonna circle it and say november 26th. So it's a relatively short period of time But you can see like chat gbt is like an enormous amount of this And then you've got google bot google bots a little bit complicated We'll talk about in a second and then you take a significant jump down So it's significant chat gbt significant jump down google bot significant jump down Everything else basically being duck duck amazon and then the rest um, but yeah, it's it's It's a lot, uh, but there's other stuff going on too. So i'm gonna need some of my notes here to explain some of this My first discussion question was Because these ai bots and we we've we've talked about this with the house fresh folks Because these ai bots are completely Or no, it wasn't house fresh. It was uh, the anantex shut down topic Um, so i was i was chatting with ryan. He was saying like a significant amount of their hosting cost is just Serving to scrapers Since they're so undiscerning in their scraping like and we know that the The majority of internet users visit just a handful of sites How much internet traffic? Oh, it's incredible. Do you think is just mindless bots Scraping sites that very few humans are actually interacting with like what is the what is the what is the The cost of all of this that's yeah, it's quite high It's it's interesting because like There is also a different line in my opinion because they're scraping in order to build a database or whatever But then there's also scraping on behalf of a user There's no way to differentiate that on the host side Uh, but you might have you might tell a bot like oh You set a bunch of stuff, but i need links for it and then it's going to go out and like search the internet and find things um, but Yeah, there's no way for us to tell what the difference is one of the really interesting ones that we've got Barely lingual and Floatplane chat says i work it with comedia. It's a lot. Yeah, it's it's a ton. Okay. Anyway, sorry go ahead Um, one of the interesting ones we have is this one There we go this chart the blue versus purple lines squiggles Um, I can't really get a good photo of this explaining what it all is but absorb that for a second Look at the dates when the blue and the purple line diverge. Yes sometime in april march Oh late march So the purple and the the purple is impressions The blue is clicks March 2025 was when ai's all ai results started rolling out in search Oh, yeah, yeah, we've kind of talked about this before i've had people say that The stuff you're quoting is like not Necessarily real because it's just like your idea of what might be happening. So I don't know Maybe this will help people accept that like, yeah, I know that's for sure happening um So we're getting brought up more but clicks are are You know the the big spikes are lower. You can tell there was like a massive spike in purple right around here Um, I don't know necessarily what happened, but whatever was interesting and searchable Didn't result in clicks and this is LTT Labs. Yeah Huh Something here happened that was really big. It got a little bit of a spike Yeah, it would probably be one of these bigger ones before But it was not as not as clickable same thing happens here. Wow, and then this one was like really massive I'm not entirely sure what this is. We could dive into it, but I don't know off top of my head what what that fully is And then the last one Oh, no, never mind. There's two more Oh, yeah, this one's kind of interesting uh The google one is skewed because Uh, just google in general is a little weird because how do you count google's stuff? Yeah, because they are search. Yeah, so the other ones are kind of more interesting like perplexity Over 15 000 requests with 23 total referrals. Right. Um, like there's no way that you can Profitably just even web host at that kind of ratio. It's it's pretty awesome It's pretty cool. And to be clear like, okay Calm down when I'm talking profitability I'm not going like corporate fat cat profitability here. I'm talking more like sustainability It's the death and consolidation of small websites Um Okay, back to luke lap top. There's the last one. Yeah, just some top referrals I think I think this this previous one is more interesting, but just showing this one as well Um duck duck go based duck duck go getting a lot more than bing was surprising and interesting to me I mean Yeah, for our audience that does kind of make sense. It does firefox users, you know, yeah Um, by the way matt uh from the lab's web team says by the way We do use all the anti AI meta tags and best practices to tell them not to scrape. They just completely ignore them Yeah, which we absolutely knew was going to be a thing. Yeah Which is why I set it on my show. We set it elsewhere Yeah, so we're not going to like, you know hire an entire team of anti AI experts to try to make our site less scrappable That's just not good use of our very limited resources But like I've had people directly reach out to me and be like, yeah Labs results ended up in like a chat gbt thing I was doing asking it questions and like It was useful enough that I didn't check the site and it's like well All right, that's how they get you. Yeah Yeah, I mean this this Genuinely explains how you know NVIDIA can keep selling more consumer gpus Which they report quarter after quarter growth in their gforce business But viewership on you know, how to pick a GPU video doesn't necessarily go up because if people are just using AI then That's all they need. Yes. I know about the humans dot txt initiative The problem is a lot of these things are just ignorable It's if you look at the incentives of what is happening and you're seeing the results of this in some places It really sucks for most people because what's going to end up happening is a bunch of sites are going to die And the ones that don't die are probably going to push heavier monetization models by putting Their interesting stuff behind paywalls. Yeah, that's going to be the only way they can survive I'm not even mad at them for it at this point. Yeah, they're they're doing what they have to do to survive We're we're lucky and also we We got to give ourselves credit for seeing the writing on the wall a long time ago and we've invested heavily in Hey By a onesie Make sure that we can keep doing the work we're doing Yeah, um But not everybody has that luxury of having other businesses to continue to support their media businesses through this very Very difficult period. I got to say a major sort of Growing up moment for me or not even moment But thing I've experienced over let's call it the last 10 years has been discovering to my dismay How much of the the general structure of the world was just and and order and stability was just built on like like norms and good faith engagement Rather than any kind of expectation of actual enforcement. That's still a thing It is still a thing but it's standards versus rules, right? If you if you can live off of standards, you will probably have a better group of people Yeah, but I feel like being the ability my expectation of being able to rely on standards and people to uphold them Is eroding. Oh, no for sure. I'm talking Super broadly here. I'm talking like corporate teams sports teams Groups of friends groups of people government countries whatever you want if it can if it can survive off of standards Um, that's like pretty much always better. This is the whole high trust versus low trust society thing Yeah, we talked about like if it is the standard of your society to be good to each other Um, then people will generally attempt to maintain that but the problem is that you have to The people themselves have to enforce that to a certain degree because you can't allow people to just Yeah, and and like authoritarian Enforcement is not the answer. No Um, well, that's kind of the whole idea. Yeah, the only way is you can go from from the bottom up upholding societal standards and I just feel like we're uh, I feel like we're in deep doo doo here. Oh, yeah, it's bad But but there's no consequences and so I don't even it's not even that there's no consequences You have you have this there's there's no consequences. They can completely ignore us saying please no And they win but and smaller companies get hurt by this and companies like Micron are able to bail out of consumer spaces for massively more high profit things that are sitting here profiting off of small groups like that artists Small publications book writers Whatever are all getting looted for all their stuff and it's all funneling up to these big companies And then they're what they're doing with that is making consumer spending more difficult because it's all being gathered up by big corporate spending like it's The the the the cycle is much more involved Um, then I think even doomers would like to think Is bad And to be clear like this is and this is a really kind of tough ones to to kind of wrap my brain around as I also I can understand why even maybe even especially At the bottom people are feeling so so jaded and so left out by this system That they're sitting here going well if they don't have to follow the rules then Why should I and they can end up harming each other a lot more than they end up harming our corporate overlord I strongly agree with that when it comes to dealing with them Uh, but ideally not each other Um Yeah Yeah Ah Evicus says that's how I feel about drug dealers like Yeah, to be clear I I don't want anyone to be a drug dealer I don't want anyone to have to be a drug dealer Is sort of another way of saying the same thing um And if someone was choosing between their family starving and dealing drugs I can at least I can at least understand I can try to empathize with their position I don't have to like it. I don't have to want that That choice or that outcome for myself or for anyone But you've got to at least um You've got to at least try To sort of put yourself in in their mindset and go okay, you know, why why did they make that choice and to be clear Not not everyone is doing it out of necessity. I don't buy that for a second um But at least some seem to be pretty stuck Ah Cool very fun good chat, um I I have just been sent some pictures of my uh christmas party costume I won't include the one when i'm standing a lighter topic. Yeah, exactly I won't include the one when i'm standing in the venue because there's other people in the background I know we we don't do that, uh, but I am going to include some of the photos of the actual get-up I'm just not wearing it in these photos um Christmas Uh, do you want me to do another thing in the meantime? Do you need a minute? I should be like oh, why don't I get through sponsors 10 seconds, but yeah, I'll just be ready when you're done Yeah, sure. All right. 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That's on the screen right now odd pieces All right What do you oh, do you want to are you showing your costume? Yeah, I can actually can I run to the washroom? Will you do that? Sure? Yeah. Yeah, so I always mentioned that I was tall grass So my original idea which was maybe okay, but not very good Was that I'd get a light green colored shirt and some dark green fabric markers and just like Basically draw in a bunch of blades of grass which because of the alternating colors of green would make it look like a bunch of different blades of grass But then Emma got involved and made it way better. So now it was like I was basically wearing a diorama so There's a bunch of Pokemon trainers in the tall grass and the tall grass was these like Little 3d things that were glued onto the shirt and there was These are totally butterfree's and not random butterfly things bought from a craft store I did a little text box Because you you got an encounter with this particular trainer and they like shorts because they're comfy and easy to wear Which is it based? And then there's the hat which the hat was was wild It was again a little diorama this time with with actual pokemon involved. I didn't know it had a little character Yeah, there's little little mini sleeping All the all the gen one starters including the the pikachu from yellow All just having a little nap on top of the hat with some little mushrooms There's a mushroom pokemon moral that came later on A little wooden stump and stuff. This is actually a white hat Um that she tried to paint some like grass kind of texture onto which was wild and then there's another Angle of it here. It was quite the thing to wear But it was awesome Yeah, it was cool. Emma Emma did all that It was fantastic Secret level Shh Okay, good call. Good call. Good call. I'm gonna no, I'm gonna leave it where it was actually you might not notice I was thinking of turning it like that, but then I think the act of turning the chair might Make him notice. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. Uh, good call everyone. Good call. Good call. All right. Let's see What do we have? We should be talking about something. Is there I can do another topic? Sure. Yeah, you got the crawler one. That's good AWS and google cloud. Yeah, where's that underneath it? No, no, it's aws and google cloud interconnect announcement Really part of this announcement is the introduction of an open source API to allow other cloud providers to adopt simplified connectivity for everyone What uh discussion question we have seen in the last few months that these giant cloud services can effectively disable sections of the internet When they go down to yes, how do you think introducing a new standard like this will affect the industry moving forward? Well, I don't know what the standard is Totally fake arthur said that is actually super sick. It's crazy Sort of nvlink, it's aglink I would like to know more. I feel like this maybe should have actually had some notes AWS announces preview of aws interconnect multi cloud providing oh interesting That'll be really expensive Multi cloud providing simple resilient high speed private connections to other cloud service providers Starting in preview with google cloud. Okay, that is very interesting Uh, I do really have to wonder how expensive that will be I think it's going to be prohibitively expensive for a lot of places But we will see Easy cloud migrations. Yeah, I mean I get it now I just didn't fully understand it immediately from the Uh, the notes I shouldn't have paid more attention to the title Um Yeah, I don't have access to that cool. Nice. Um, yeah, I mean that sounds cool interesting resilient. Um, But also probably very expensive and we'll see how that goes Hmm You literally had to pay people to run actual wires in the data center before yeah, I mean you're still doing that It's just being obfuscated from you That is totally still happening I don't know. I don't know guys A lot of this cloud stuff is very expensive and like doubling it is also going to be very expensive It will be really nice for resiliency though certain services will benefit from that a lot, but I think if you're expecting like everyone to do that, uh, it's it's going to be too much for a lot of places Okay, did you get the google one? Hmm Google has removed the call home Yes, we did we did talk about that one Uh New robots look like they could kick my butt. Okay. These are cool Engine ai released a video showing off the new t800 robot. Totally not a ripoff Uh, it's surprisingly agile. It performs a bunch of martial arts moves like front kicks and roundhouse kicks Uh, despite the no a g i sorry No ai slash c g i in the bottom left hand of the clip Many comments don't believe it unitary responded with their own video a day later showing off the h2 robot. Hold on. Hold on Can we look at this first? Yes Yeah, that looks like uh, this one look real at all billion percent looks like cgi. Yeah, that doesn't look real at all Hold on. Hold on. Let's see. Let's see. Hold on Even like the lighting and stuff Yeah, I don't I don't even sort of believe this Uh If you're going to if you're gonna make that claim Why would you shoot it like this? Yeah, that's that's why it's so strange Hold on. Why doesn't the human ever interact with the robot and they're like faces covered with a hood the whole time Well, no, that's fine. I don't mind that because that human is probably there But they never they never touch each other. You notice that? Yeah Like like when unitary does demos and stuff they'll like they'll they'll like kick the robot and stuff Oh, you can see them there. No, no, I mean, but they never touch each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Do they ever cross over even they get really close? This is the weirdest shot video ever it could be a stunt. Wow. Yeah, it looks too good I don't believe that it's this good Um, but it could be a oh man. This is the fakest looking video ever dude Like why would you shoot it to look fake? Uh, this is what I was saying is I could see it be a strategy where they're trying to get people to claim that It's not fake so then they can prove that it's real later. Sorry claim that it is fake so they can prove it It's real later the one time anyone touches the robot. It's not moving. It's not moving It's I don't even think it's on That is the most BS looking thing ever and this this looks more like the robot actually doing stuff. Yeah And then this suddenly super doesn't Okay, anyway, okay, so this is engine ai. Yeah, I don't know about that one Okay, and then unitary responded with their own video a day later showing off the h2 robot Their video starts with the 1.8 meter tall humanoid robot beating up a much smaller robot Then it spars with a person and a bigger robot See this also looks kind of fake except okay, there's actually people back here and when we move on It's one feels a lot more real they actually interact with the robot it feels a lot more real Even a lot of the movements like it's surprisingly fluid, but it still has like the classic Robotics like, you know, oh, I am unstable. I will run You know algorithm thing to figure out how to become stable again Yeah, like little things like that that little like struggle. Ooh That feels a lot more legit. Oh, yeah 100% Uh, that looked legitimately dangerous being in the ring with this thing Like if it connected on one of these roundhouse kicks took this out. Oh, no, not this one. Never mind. Hold on Here it is like if it had connected with that kick Yeah, I could suck that would have freaking hurt. I would suck like maybe injury hurt Anyway, unitary just can't stop winning man Like they Crazy the whole industry is moving so fast that it would be impossible to tell us which horse is gonna or horse says more likely Are gonna win this race based on those videos. I don't think engine ai is because I don't think they have a horse Um I don't know that video is just so fake looking. It's ridiculous. Yeah Like look at the lighting that would have been required for this intro Hold on. Apparently the engineer it 800 video has behind the scenes that's been released as a response to the fake CGI comments All right, let's have a look Okay Okay, that looked more awkward Okay, hold on. Let's see Hold on. Oh, wait. Okay. This guy this guy is moving Okay, they've got this doesn't do much to make me believe it. I'm just saying That helped a little that's not the take that's in the video. No, it's not Okay, yeah Uh I Want to see someone interact with this stupid robot Hold on. Hold on. Is it gonna touch something? Wait, what is buddy here doing? Oh, okay, that's an action cam I'm still skeptical Show me it doing something not badass. That's what I want Hold on. Wait, I want to go back to that one for a second. So where's the sun? Okay Man, this looks so fake touch it. Somebody touch the robot See this this is convincing, but again, it's then it cuts I don't know dude. Ah, I don't know dude. I'm I'm not very convinced right now Okay, I still don't believe it I don't know. What do you guys think? What do you guys think did this help at all? Oh man, a lot of people saying the the behind the scenes Uh makes it look even more fake Oh I I don't know I would I need to see a human interacting. I'm also not like like I said It it felt like a move where they wanted people to say that it looked fake So that they could try to prove that it wasn't fake and the non behind the scenes video is only three days old And they have the behind the scenes cut already out I feel like they're just trying to get in news headlines right now and they succeeded You think so? That's my vibe check That's some pretty good 4d chess It feels very planned out though. Yeah, I don't sure. Yeah, I mean you plan when you play 4d chess That's like the whole idea Yeah, I do okay seriously scooby-free says the old push it back with uh with a broom test Yeah, I want to see that I want to see it like it's it's they're one day apart I want to see it failing to do a bunch of the like spinning kicks It's not just that this video is three days old. This one's only two days old Yeah, I will oh no, that's immediately afterwards. That's true enough But like it's not like that took a lot of editing to do like they just chops together some some footage Yeah, like what what's they've got a bunch of other stuff on their channel setting the record straight on cgi rumors I I really think it's it's a publicity thing Like have they ever done anything in the past hold on uh searching for their channel didn't bring it up for me Can you can you bring up their channel again? Uh, yeah. Oh wait. No, I found it down Like they've got a whole bunch of videos on their on their channel like do any of these other ones Nice Like this looks This looks more believable hit it with a broom interact with it directly I Dare you touch it one touch it speed touch it I mean, yeah that that looked a lot more realistic more realistic Ah Okay, well When was this anyway? I hate how hard it is to just find the stupid Details. Okay. Yeah, you got to go find the hamburger menu and menu then click description. So that was in april of this year You know what? Let's see. Let's see how it goes. I um I I agree with luke that they're obviously playing a get-in headlines game. Yeah Until until I see something that doesn't look quite as polished and staged and um And as devoid of real material Interactions as even the behind the scenes here I'm going to find this pretty darn hard to believe And if they like hard scripted a bunch of movements that do look that good And that's why some of these standard walking scenes look dramatically lower tech than the like martial arts scenes Where they're like moving much more like you would expect and then suddenly they're like fluid and dynamic Maybe but like a lot of these things it looks like The like metal is almost bending in a way that like A human doing these types of movements would would flex and bend when it like collides with the ground and stuff And then you suddenly see the walking scenes is like Like I just I don't know I have a hard time believing it at all But if it is like hard scripted to happen specifically in like that room in that setting With that floor material and all that kind of stuff. Maybe they've got something Maybe it's never useful to anyone really but like, okay maybe Yeah, I I'm gonna wait I'm gonna wait before just pronouncing this to be fake and before pronouncing this to be real I'm not saying this as a fact, but I'm I'm definitely siding on the it's fake side And if it isn't fake then I mean hell yeah, I'm gonna say it looks like I'll power to him It for sure looks fake and then and then again this part Like it might not all be fake this part seems like it could be legitimate This movement all seems pretty normal Yep Very kind of often one motor at a time and then we're back to nah Yep fair enough, um Anyways, we don't have any other like real topics, but there were a couple other things to talk about my uh My son started the 3d printing business. Yeah, you're doing a video for that, right? Yeah, like has to be yeah That's amazing. Yeah, I've heard the story behind this and it's incredible. I uh, I took a I took a picture of him last night um Because he's actually the the first teenager that I've ever met in my entire life Who's like the king of just getting a good night's sleep and you know Being fresh in the morning um And so this is this is really unusual for him Uh, but he was like up really late last night and so I got home from the christmas party. I was like I went to say good night to all of the kids and make sure that they were in bed And um, so my daughters were in bed and I was like that's good and I went to pop my head into my son's room And I was like good night boy, and then You're not in here. Oh lights on in your bathroom You're you're not in there either. Where the heck is he? I'm like, is he in the mechanical room again because he has been spending so much of his time down in the mechanical room And uh, Dan, I just sent you a picture And this is the scene that I walked in on I have never been prouder hell yeah Um, what are what are so what are those christmas trees? Uh, there are little fidget toys that are two spiral things that kind of yeah go together He has like a an entrepreneurship fair coming up at the school And so he's bringing the the ones on the the bamboo that are closer to us are those little infinite fold fidget cubes Um, and so he's bringing a bunch of like pre-printed stuff and then also promoting his like Choose your own uh 3d printing business. So he's been Yeah, you can take it down now. So he's been learning a whole bunch of so based like 3d printing so he's learning about different filaments and like the different temperatures and odors and Off-gassing and like just sort of all this various stuff. He keeps asking me to like buy more filament and i'm have you got him into flexible stuff yet? Not yet. Um We Have some but most of the orders that he's getting are not for stuff that uses it and right now He's having a hard time keeping up just with what people are requesting Uh, let alone going and just like exploring and finding interesting things to go and doesn't have to do as much product development yet Um, we're we're i'm trying to i'm trying to find a way to make him actually sort of think about the nuts and bolts of how to make This a business but not make it just you know Uh impossible to overcome because other than like sports. He's had a hard time finding like a hobby Up until now. He loves gaming. He loves sports, but you can only play so many video games a day Sorry, it's not that's not you're not going to be an esports pro not in my house. Um, it's just not going to happen Um, and you you can only do much so much physical activity before your body just Must recover and that's actually a healthy thing to do. And so he uh, so he's finally he's finally done it. He's like Super dialed in so the The balance that I I think I found is that He has to pay me for filament by the weight that he uses Interesting is that so is that true when he's selling product, but not if he's making it for himself Um, he doesn't make anything for himself. He doesn't care. He does not do like Gadgets and stuff. He like dude, we'll go to we'll go to disneyland as a family I kid you not And the whole weekend The girls are like hounding us for some princess thing or some dress or some wand or some balloon or whatever Um, actually, I shouldn't I should give them more credit than that once they grew up a little bit neither of them would hound us But we do have sort of the rule in our house that they learn is that when we go on vacation You can have one souvenir Don't bother us about it At the end Keep your eyes open and then at the end let us know and if it's something within the budget that we set Then that's one and that's and the don't bug us past that is sort of the rule that we have um But anyway, so the girls will have their eyes out and they'll be like Chitter-chattering at each other about what they like and oh if we each get one of these then we can play that together And And at the end we'll be like Okay, we've done we've done our shopping for the girls boy. Do you want anything and be like no That you sure like they they have build your own lightsaber. No They have like here's the thing you could put on your wall. No, I got stuff on my wall All right All right, that's cool. He's just he's really not materialistic. Anyway, um So we charge him for filament by the weight that he uses Not by the spools that we order. So if there's like a color he needs I'll just order it And then I'm like the like bulk distributor. Yeah, he only has to like pay for what he uses I think that's pretty reasonable seems all right. And then if he needs any other materials That's his problem. So he placed his first order with McMaster car last week. Nice He ordered some magnets and some like m2 screws And he's using it to make a little rubber band guns and I told him No black ones Yeah, that's a specific no black guns So the first one he made was like in lilac. That's a canadian legal thing just for anyone. Yeah Do not 3d print a black gun racist and take it to school. Okay. Oh my god He's talking. Oh man, it's not racist Stop They know they know they're just teasing when you come down So the first one he made was in like lilac and I was like, yes approved But like He intended to make the first one in black. Yeah, of course. I was like boy. I do not want a letter from the school about this Please for the love of all that is good. It's gonna be a letter from the government Oh And so and he's also making these like cool flipping. They have to be like, oh my goodness Make them in fun. They need to be fish or price colors. Yes. Make them in fun toy colors. That's all I ask. Yeah um, yeah so Anyway, where was uh, where was I going with this? Um, yes So he's got his oh, yeah, right, right, right, right, right, right So he needed like these m2 screws and um and magnets because it's got it's got kind of a cool element to the design Where you glue in some magnets and it has like a removable magazine the magazine doesn't do anything Yeah, yeah, yeah, you print out two mags and it comes on a couple mags and they like magnet in and whatever right like kids kids Love that stuff. It's a toy. Yeah, exactly. That's why it's not black. Um, so we um So he ordered that and he's like, yeah the the shipping cost is so high. I'm like, yep He's like, I can't buy just two m2 screws. I'm like, nope He's like, I'm gonna have to sell like six of these and I'm like, yep And so that's why I want to have him like paying for some of his. Yeah, no, that's cool. I don't charge him for machine time I think I've decided now. I'm not gonna charge him for any like upgrades to the machines So the print farm he gets free time on it As long as he shares with his sisters because they like to print toys for themselves Neither of them are really selling things at this point. Um, and then he has to pay by fulfillment by weight that he only What he uses and then anything else that he needs to make like cool designs and stuff That seems extremely reasonable at this point And then Yvonne's really encouraging him to start tracking all of his expenses and all of his revenues in a spreadsheet to make sure That he's like paying himself At least a break even and hopefully like like an amount of money that's worth it because as you could see He's spending a lot of time on this now. It's a mess right now And the first thing he said when I walked in the room was I'll clean it up tomorrow I was like, honestly I'm not even mad. Yes do clean it up tomorrow, but I'm not even mad about this Last night I was in the bath and he came in and interrupted me three times Because there a bunch of filament got stuck on the outside of one of the hot ends And he was like trying to swap out for another nozzle And he was like working on extracting the ceramic heating element and like putting the temperature probe in and a bunch of like PEGG filament had gotten kind of stuck on it and they ended he ended up breaking it and I'm just like I'm not even mad This is honestly like such a proud dad moment right now. I will buy you a new heating element I don't even care right now. Yeah, I'm just so glad that for the first time in your life you are like dialed the f*** in learning this stuff And and like highly interested in it. So he accidentally ordered slightly the wrong size magnets Or rather McMaster car was an imperial and the file was in was in uh metric. No, this is great That's a good lesson because because uh, my daughter my middle child is actually more interested in learning the modeling side and so They don't always interact a ton There's a couple year age gap and there's the gender gap. The gender gap is big and kids Socially will tend to be like water or electricity They will they will take the path of least resistance very often So when the two girls are a pretty similar age gap and the girl and the boy are a pretty similar age gap There's a tendency for the two girls to just do girly things together And for my son to be kind of left out And so that was such a cool parent moment When she helped him with it this strategic decision that I made a year ago because I don't know if you remember this But the 3d printer was a christmas present for the whole family with with an ulterior motive Right. I wanted them to learn this stuff. I was going to help them with it until I stopped Until they got into it enough that when I stopped they'd be motivated to keep it going And anyway, it was really cool to see them work together and figure out how to modify the model to make the magnets that he ordered work It was like, ah proud parent moment. Let's go. Super cool. Yeah. Um, yeah, so I I did warn my son. I was like, okay, you do need to keep this like Kind of low profile because otherwise the school could tell you that you're like not allowed to do it anymore That did happen at my there's some kid at my school that had a locker full of like snacks and stuff that he would sell And he got shot down. So the school Did send out a memo about a week after I warned him because because he was like, oh, yeah I'm gonna like have a bunch of them like hanging off my bag and I'm gonna put a sign on my backpack I know so so Um, they sent out a memo to their credit. They were actually pretty chill about it Not because this is for the entrepreneurship fair like this is what he was doing in that picture is official school business Yeah, um, he's also selling snow cones. So Yvonne helped him with that side of it and I've been helping him with the 3d printer side Um, and so that's like, uh, that's like an officially sanctioned thing during school hours And then for the for the just like on the side stuff Basically what they said was look you can't exchange money during school hours or on school property You can talk about it or on school property Yeah, but that's fine because you can just step one step off of walk out during lunch Because you said or both. Okay, and yeah, and okay So so basically they could just they just have to like arrange to meet after school And I was like, you know what? That's actually pretty chill. They're not like you can't talk about it at all You can't they didn't like ban 3d printed fidget toys. That seems reasonable to me. That seems perfectly Totally reasonable. So I told him during the entrepreneurship fair He should not only sell the fidget toys and stuff But he should 3d print like little like challenge coins That just have like his name and his grade or something Just so that people like know because that's super cheap. So that's a marketing expense and just give them out So now you're teaching him about That's sick Teaching business What would be kind of neat is if you got them to print some stuff that might be Interesting for I'm assuming this Business fair whatever thing It's not just kids, right? Parents are going to Uh, no, it's just kids. Oh, okay. Yeah, never mind then I was gonna say if there was parents going I would like print some stuff that they might be interested in as well Then they could place orders through the kids Then it might get shut down That would be sick. All it takes is one parent to complain. Oh my god. He could set up a really basic website And just have it be like that you reserve an order and then he could bring it to school Technically the sale happened through the website He's thought of that and he has a classmate that wants to build the website for him and like partner with him and I'm just like I'm not going to interfere with that because I think he could probably do it himself But I want the classmate to learn too and I want them both to learn that going into business together has advantages About that and disadvantages and relationships are complicated and sometimes can be very fruitful and sometimes can be very challenging these are all just things that like I was a decade from starting to learn when I was his age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right like yeah, yeah No, that's a super valuable super super valuable my my thing with the online purchasing is you could just they didn't say anything about distribution So if the payment happened It can be distributed just fine. Yeah, I mean I don't know exactly what the wording was. Do they have lockers? Uh, yes Ah, man. Yeah, I like this idea too much. I know I know right. It's it's so cool Because he could set up a relatively small printer in there and then if the transaction happened online He could do like ready to order That's too far. They would definitely the second there's an extension cord running into his locker You could get like uh, uh, what are these jackery? There's an answer for everything dude. There's an answer for all things all things are solvable I have go ego says it's just sad that 3d printing is at this point mostly just turning out other people's work in selling it I I would offer an alternate perspective coding um Libraries, I I mean even okay, let me just you write your own random number generators Let me let me offer an alternate perspective. We're talking about kids here The fact that my kids used our 3d printer exclusively as a toy factory Just printing other people's designs in this case selling them You could see that as a bad thing But let me pitch the the the you have to get your feet wet somewhere. Let me pitch the education angle Like they were never going to have to learn to widen that magnet mount hole If they didn't have someone order someone else's design the collaborative aspects of that is so freaking cool And they're never going to learn to make a better magazine That goes into the the the gun design better if they never learned to widen that hole And they're never going to create their own You know elastic gun design from scratch if they never made that magazine modification or built a cool accessory that goes on the rail You'll have to start somewhere It could end up turning into a thing where your your daughter's fun cool toy design models End up being what your son is like peddling at school And there's some form of like profit sharing agreement between the two or something Who knows like it's all paths from here are pretty cool Except for a path where it gets fully shut down and i'm happy that the school, you know did a fairly reasonable thing I'm being like, you know what don't sell these on ours. Don't overdo it. Yeah, which seems totally reasonable pump the brakes Um, but i'm happy that they didn't completely shut it down Because I mean there's there's weird aspects of that too, right? Because like we're sitting here thinking of ways that he can kind of work around it That is part of business Making sure that you can operate as optimally as possible, but not break the rules is literally part of running business Um, so like is actually a good lesson for him to understand that like if he pushes it too far They have the power to shut him down. So he shouldn't do that But it is a reasonable thing to push it a little bit and like try to try to do what he can Um, I think this is amazing I heard this concept not all these details, but I heard the concept and like immediately basically begged that there would be a video And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's probably a video. I was like, thank god So lumen's a real says so are you suggesting that scraping for ai was good because they had to start somewhere so incredibly That is that is such a literally not stealing. It's such a bad faith Comparison on so many levels now. Hold on though because there are a lot of models Hold on a lot of there are a lot of models on these marketplaces that are not approved for commercial use However, we are explicitly in this case. We are explicitly talking about small-scale student use which Okay, is it commercial? Yeah, but there's degrees of commercial use and there are There's there's nuance guys. Well, are the models that he's using with that license legitimately don't know Okay, kind of don't care. Yeah, to be honest with you. I don't really either, but they might also just not be they also might just not Be I agree. There are a bunch of models that are like that They're also a bunch of models that just don't care at all and look Over time if he scales this thing up and all of a sudden he's like selling online and selling, you know thousands of Gadgets a week. He's gonna need to make sure he's playing by the rules Then he's gonna need to make sure that he's playing by the rules But when we're talking about, you know a company like open ai or perplexity Companies that you know have millions upon millions or billions of dollars of seed funding guys We're talking about a totally different thing. We're not talking about a kid in their basement Printing 3d printed models and taking them to school and selling them for four dollars, right? Like we've context does matter and I know that's a really hard concept for people But it does matter. It does matter a lot and the world is not black and white All right Uh, oh, yeah, you know, I don't really think that talking about the podcast I was on matters that much But what is an interesting conversation? Um, I was I was on like an interview um Hold on let me see if I can find it Yeah, yeah, there we go. I I did an interview with uh, john uche and um Is this not the podcast? Yeah, this is it. Oh, okay. Yeah, and quite a few Quite a few people were very confused and some very upset by This Wait, they were upset by it. Yeah, I can understand being confused. I don't understand being upset Yeah, so youtube has a new feature. Yeah, it's cool. That allows a channel to Uh Collaborate with another channel. Yeah, it's like awesome like through the platform. Well, hold on. Hold on because there's there's alternate perspectives here um to collaborate through the platform and publish a video to the subscriber feed Of the channel that they collaborated with Uh Yeah That's why they're upset. I didn't know I did that. So that's where things get a little bit interesting. Is there a way for me to Is there a way for me to search? Can I can I find all the comments that I know I'm personally still okay with that? But I also understand why that would bother people. That's irritating. This is going to be This is going to be a pretty hard thing for me to find here then because I I ran into someone that was like very upset about this feature and I just Legitimately was like I would like to know more about your perspective because you have Extremely strong feelings about this and I don't really uh, I don't really get it. Um I'm gonna see if I can find it because they they In some ways kind of raised an interesting point, but in other ways. I think um Are maybe not necessarily Are considering the the the shades of gray. I guess so on the one hand They're black and white point that I can that I can agree with Is that I didn't subscribe to this channel. Get the out of my feed. Yeah, I understand that fair Valid oh good. I found the comment It would just it would just be kind of cool if there's when you go to your subscription feed If there was a like checkbox option thing to like No longer show collaborations. So here's buddy's comment. I hate hate hate the collab feature on youtube And nine out of ten. I will not watch the video out of spite for this feature We should not be getting videos from a creator and our subscribe feed from people. We are not subscribed to With that said, I don't know this podcast But I am interested in Linus getting interviewed because it happens so suddenly I mean, he's not afraid to say whatever the f*** he wants on his own channel, especially when any who back to the show So I said this seems like a super weird hill to die on I'm interested to understand more about your stance You subscribed to our creator me I assume in this case and youtube made a feature that notifies you when I'm in a video I honestly don't see the problem with it. Can you help me out? Okay, so here's how open of you very very very nice Well, no, I just I'm a reasonable comment, sir I'm not being. I mean, I did call him super weird I'm so maybe he was super weird. I said it's a super weird hill Yeah, but I mean he's dying on it. So I think the implication was clear I think you're being super weird about this was kind of what I was saying, but I genuinely Genuinely, it felt like you were genuinely open to see their perspective. Well, I didn't think I didn't think he was coming at it in bad faith Yeah, I could tell he was legitimately upset. Yeah that he wasn't making like Assumptions or sweeping generalizations as far as I could tell. Yeah, so here's what he said. Okay The example that started this collab feature was mark robber and mr. Beast and that is that is fair enough I think they were the first ones to get access to this feature. I think they launched it with the um Clean up the ocean collab earlier this year. Yeah, I don't quote me on that though But I believe they have used it I have a problem with mr. Beast in his practices Mr. Beast has since been shoved down my throat multiple times because he collabs with creators I love watching but I don't want to watch a mr. Beast video I specifically haven't blocked for a reason. I shouldn't be forced to see his face or videos in my subscriber fee You haven't blocked. Yeah, it shouldn't show and that is why I wanted to know more because I could tell we were going somewhere with this Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I agree a hundred percent YouTube needs to fix this. Yeah, that seems simple to fix. It's one thing to to Feed me a video of a person that I subscribe to even if they're on someone else's channel Yeah, it is an entirely other thing if I have explicitly said do not show me The collaborate is so simple to fix though. Well, they probably just didn't think of it And we and it just needs to yeah be properly communicated Very slow machine needs to eventually turn out the fix and it'll happen. I'm sure um I've been dying on this hill for the months. This feature has existed. It's a long death Um, I'm pretty sure I've said it in your comment section a few times in the wan comment section If you happen to mention it, I didn't see it before. Sorry J. Cereo 187. Thanks for taking the time to recognize it um I also I think it should be your or the collaborator's responsibility to show me slash Advertises content put a post up on your socials or on the youtube feed. Hey, I made this thing with this person Check it out or don't so here's where I'm going to kind of go counterpoint J. Cereo I wish I had that power I don't If I post something on like the Linus tech tips community tab or if I post a short or something If it doesn't resonate strongly with the audience especially with how sensitive Algorithmically youtube has been lately to things just being either mega bangers or absolute flops It will have like zero reach You won't see it And so youtube took away my power to to promote these things Myself a really long time ago algorithmically So what they're doing is they're they're giving me back the scraps They're giving me the ability or they're giving another creator the ability to to properly Cross-pollinate in a way that we haven't had for a long time And I totally get it if you have a channel blocked like if you had this john guy You know if you hate his channel or something or in your case, it was mr. Beast It wasn't johnny. I can't see anything to hate about john here, but Um, but in your case, it was mr. Beast if you have a channel explicitly blocked that you have do not show flag You should never see it. You should never see it. I agree with you 100 percent. That's something youtube needs to fix But your suggestion that I just sort of promote things myself I wish I could I hate that I can't that I can't publish something And and be trusted To to not spam my viewers with stuff They don't want to see to to actually have the power to push a notification to the people who click subscribe And just let them unsubscribe if they if they don't want to see it But youtube determined a long time ago that for their business interests, which are maximizing watch time and maximizing ad and premium revenue it was better for them to just Because they knew that users were just going to be too lazy to unsubscribe to a channel They didn't want to hear from and they were just going to turn off youtube notifications. That's where it came from That's what this all goes back to is users instead of unsubscribing from stuff They don't want to see they would just turn off notifications And youtube doesn't want that So they determined it was better for them to decide how often to give you a notification from my channel They took that power away from me a long time ago Um So yeah, last thing I said was okay. Hey, thanks for elaborating I still think it's a little overkill to want to remove a feature from the platform because there's one specific creator you're trying to avoid I also agree with your general sentiment that as a viewer you should be able to control the content that is fed to you Um, the part I don't agree with is that this is any worse than basically anything else youtube has done algorithm-wise over the last 5 to 10 years The short shelf being in my way all the time or the utterly broken search that's full of stuff I've already watched and stuff. I'm not looking for so much worse. I mo Um, anyway, look at that Look at that a respectful Interaction on the internet. We should have it bronzed Um, I learned something and I hopefully j s learned something as well This is I was scrolling through the youtube's while you're talking about that I just have you know the account that's logged in for uh, the wancho here I just noticed something random in the recommendations, which was a 13 year old NVIDIA video A four year old delta highlights video a 15 year old white five four six video um 13 days two months 12 year old video scroll down more eight years ago 16 years ago. What's happening? Why is this account recommended just like the oldest stuff ever? Maybe it just knows you're old Maybe this is the equivalent of spotify is uh, your listener age All goes seems to have changed in the last few days. I've noticed my feet get really weird again It did it did somehow pick up that I would want to see the I am Gabe Newell that oh, no that I would want to see this one This guy living in delay to 2026 So they know that about me somehow even though it's Not even like really my I guess it sort of is my account but like search for stuff sometimes But I don't watch it. It's just on wancho. No, but you search for stuff Uh in this chrome profile that is related to what we talk about on wan So you've definitely talked about sky blue. We've definitely probably did luke. We probably did luke. We did. Thank you It happened, uh, is that it for topics, uh, yeah, I think so anyway, uh, you can go check out the interview if you want, um A lot of ground has been tread before on the WAN Show But it's a more concise version of a lot of it. You don't have to watch like a thousand hours of WAN Show You could just watch the one interview and he was really nice very accommodating host. Um Yeah, super cool. I met him for the first time at vid summit. That was where we um, it was actually I was I saw a couple complaints on his channel. It's amazing how spoiled people can get because his channel generally looks really great So I saw some complaints about his set and it's like bro They managed to make it look that good in a conference room I was like I was marveling at what he and his team pulled off and like their amazing attention to detail And meanwhile people are like complaining about it. Uh, yeah, I was like I was like great job, you guys This looks this looks swell. Why are they complaining? This was this was just in like like an ugly You know how every conference room has to be like tan and brown Yeah, just yeah, we were just in a like an ugly tan brown They brought in a rug to giz it up a little bit brought in some plants. They got the lighting I I thought they did a great job I didn't think it was in a studio. I didn't know where you were but I yeah, I mean I picked up the vibe pretty good We were in a horrible meeting room at a hotel. Yeah, we're in a conference center. I didn't see much of it Great job. Great job All right, Dan, I think it's time. It's when after dark except it's The afternoon light out there. I don't know how to deal with this. He was ahead of us. I don't know how to deal with this Yeah, that's a little weird There's other connotations Yeah, we don't go outside Yeah How about some merch messages? Yes, I'd love that. Okie dokie First time catching a show between work and being Sabbath Observant in my community sundown friday. Hold on. I'm a little wait. I'm a little confused. Can we slow down for a second? I thought you're allowed to recreate wait. Are you not allowed to use computers? Well, it's not friday sundown yet No, no, I know but just like the Sabbath in general. I don't know the rules No, yeah, but is yeah, but is watching a podcast work turning on a light is work. Is he calling us work? No, no, I know it's rude Right though. It's rude Okay. Oh, wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Tell me this. Tell me this. Okay. Okay Again, this is coming from a place of complete ignorance. I have no idea how the rules work All I know is that sometimes my b and h orders wouldn't ship on time. That's literally all I know so Do they have a wire for that? But if I if If you created a script That would like that would that would turn on your tv tomorrow No, what I'm just asking. This is a whole line of technology. This is a whole thing we can get into Really? Shut up Okay, but hold so I could I could push a button today on friday And then it could run a script that has a time delay to turn on the wanshow like tomorrow and then And then we'll turn it off when it's over like with that would that count I think that's a thing like I'm pretty Yeah, I've heard of like ovens that will Turn on to preheat at a scheduled time and then you can have dinner You can do stuff like that and like it's uh, you do a crock part. You started in the the morning. Yeah There's special elevators That stop on every floor so that you don't have to press a button. Yeah, you're not interacting with it It just stops opens the door for a certain period of time and then keeps going um Yeah There's like there's a lot of who technological workarounds Huh Okay interesting It's a whole industry apparently Wow This kind of reminds me of the electrical timers or like a huge deal for this um This kind of reminds me of the uh, I think they're called halal mortgages I I learned about this a while ago because you're not allowed to have a loan or no You're not allowed to pay or receive interest in islam So instead of a loan it's an asset backed partnership or at least to own agreement It apparently they cost like way more Nice. Yeah Uh, anyway, I just I just love the name of this but one of them is called the shabalb It's a light bulb that fits like any lamp and can be turned on and off on shabbat Uh, apparently a toggle on the led bulb allows users to make it go dark by concealing led Diodes that actually stay on Unlike other shabbat friendly lamps on the market the shabalb fits any socket can be used in regular lamp It's probably my least profitable item, but people love this product says mortakai You can use it during the week. You don't have to have a clunky lamp. You have to take out especially for shabbos Yeah, then just like the shower with mode ovens Huh All right. Wow What a what a what a technology Branch of technology. I've also heard people accidentally setting it into the wrong mode and then they can't use their oven all weekend So you can't use it accidentally. Yeah Right, right, right, right. Yeah, like are you starting to set it to cleaning mode and now it's just Broken now now. I want to learn more about these rules, right? Like it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool Okay, okay, my so my oma had a lamp that didn't have like a switch It was like the touch to dim remember those those were so cool. How are those not in fashion anymore? Anyway, the point is like it was still have one. Yeah, it was like a touch to dim Is that a switch does that count? What if you accidentally bump it? Well, I don't know. I don't know. I literally I don't know. I don't know. Does that are you what about voice control? Like is that a thing? Speaking is work But then would that mean that you can't speak ever I'd say yes because you still operate. No This is not your debate guys. I'm not debating anything. I'm asking questions. Yeah chill master of none. It's okay. It's okay Clap on. So I don't know Tim says I'd say yes because you still operate the device Yeah, because you're not operating the elevator by just getting on it and getting off, right? You're not instructing it to do anything, right? Closing a blind like closing the shutters on your led bulb I guess All right, that's why they don't turn on or off. You're just kind of like blocking you're affecting the result But you're not actually commanding the device to do something different. I guess fascinating Anyway, yeah, the question is have you ever done a full tech detox? Hold on. Hold on. Lucky drive says my girlfriend is Jewish if you bump into it It doesn't count as it wasn't intended if it's genuinely not intended. I think that makes a lot of sense But are you allowed to turn it back off? I Don't know. I don't know I don't know. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Okay. Sorry Dan. Go ahead. Have you ever done a full? No, we haven't even started this merge message No, I didn't even I get a good halfway through it. Wow. Okay. Have you ever done a full tech detox? Have unintentionally. Um, no No, I uh I like tag I should probably try it how how long would it have to be to truly be a detox? I don't know. It's 30 minutes I'm already shaking I think if it's less than a week, you haven't even really like tried Yeah, my biggest problem with this stuff is work. Uh, Emma proposed like we should pick a day a weekend where we don't do any Got excited there Oh Uh, Emma suggested that we do a day on the weekend where we don't use any electronics And I was like, yeah, I mean that's neat, but If something happens, I like need to be able to be in contact That is such a whole way to respond to someone's suggestion. That's neat. It is actually like a cool idea. I just can't do it It is a cool idea I like it's I would I would genuinely like to and I I suggested we do like severely limited or something But like what would that even on your smartwatch? I don't think I can actually just Um, I I don't think I can actually just completely cold turkey it because of work stuff and like part of my big issue is that When I'm bored what I would probably like to do is like just do some work stuff Like it's kind of my hobby Yeah, so that happens to me. Yeah, but like I think that's the point of digital detox I can do something else though. That's the point is that you're supposed to just not I am certain I can do something Okay, okay. Tell you what? 2026 Let's do it do what let's do a couple's weekend No tech that's gonna be a problem if neither of us can be contacted doesn't matter Also, Yvonne. Don't forget Yvonne. Oh god. Yeah, I know I can probably set up enough like Contact lines that things could get figured out or hear me out. This is crazy You could set a vacation responder on your email for the first time ever never. I know I know but you could try it You could try it Never um Most the really emergency stuff isn't gonna be emailed though. Let's do it. It'll be slack in teams. No, let's do it Let's do it one weekend one weekend. I can do one weekend. We'll do one weekend We can make one weekend. I'm sending this to Yvonne, which means, you know, it will happen Now it's not just words Yvonne's involved. I can do one weekend I've effectively had to do one weekend because I wouldn't have service for the weekend and stuff Um yeah I'm actually still live comma, but luke and I well bloody hell I'm actually still live comma, but luke and I made a pact just now that We are going to do a couple's digital detox for one weekend next year So that means from midnight on friday to Midnight on sunday night. No tech I think it's I think it's wanshow ending Yeah, I could I could get in well Because friday night's the weekend in my opinion Interesting, okay, uh, well we can debate that later. I don't want to like get into a long Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I I could get behind that. I could get behind that So we turn off wanshow and then we touch no electronic switches and no screens. No electronic switches I think we can turn lights on and stuff. I mean is it technology or not? Okay. All right. You know what? No, it's you know I I'm down. We got to do candles and stuff. I know they asked digital detox So how about microchip? How about we draw the line at microchip? I think it's screen a lot of a lot of modern modern Yeah, because screen or microchip a lot of modern lights have your your light switches are like Our vehicles have microchips in them. You walk past them and they turn on Ah, okay, right. I mean your main vehicle has a screen in it too. Am I not going to be able to drive? No, no Okay, I think you're overthinking this a little bit, but you can't listen to the radio in your car Really? I like that. No maps No, like I like that I don't know nothing. I can have a paper map. I can have a paper map. Yeah, can I print the paper map? Yeah If you do it Friday, okay? Interesting interesting. Yeah, you know preheat the oven. You can use your oven. I you know, I don't care But you can't you can't watch a podcast or listen to music and services effectively like you can't use your phone at all No entertainment from a digital device at all. No assistance from a digital device. That's sort of thing. Yeah I can't eat something that's like a monitor. Can I read a book if it's on a Kindle? No, no, okay? No, no, it's good. It's good. We want to find out We're finding the lines. What if I pre-loaded? What if I okay? Oh? You said that I'm allowed to pre-print a map. Yes. What if I had a hundred Kindles? And I pre-loaded a hundred pages. I don't know. You have to print it. Okay. Okay. I have to print the book Curse you DRM I won't be able to there's lots of DRM free books actually by the way Lucky Drive 1984 says if you accidentally bump into it and turn it on you cannot turn it back off unfortunately Yeah, that sounds right. So I did get my answer on that. All right, Dan. What's next? Hey LLD Linus, you have talked a lot about inventory of your products and I was curious Why can't you just order a lot of it stored in a warehouse till it sells out cheers from the netherlands? Money money money money It's such an innocent question. I know right money But it's a complaint that our money money money Yeah As it turns out He's losing it do not have unlimited money. What I know I We should do something to fix this my illusion is shattered mine, too If you had stock you would have more money. I thought I did it was catch 22. It was all digital Yeah, yeah, right. How am I get it's an infinite money glitch? The more stock I buy the more money I have So you see this chicken it's made of chicken one of the One of the biggest challenges moving from a small business to a mid-sized business and then and then even and then beyond One of the things that really scales in difficulty is managing your cash flow Not your profitability You can be a profitable business and still be out of money that goes out of business Because you didn't correctly manage your cash flow Because you ended up with warehouses full of inventory that are not turning fast enough And you end up with more bills due than you have money left to pay them All of a sudden you fall behind on your payroll, which is the Single most important bill that you need to pay every two weeks And that's it You're cooked because maybe you're in an industry where no amount of discounting. I don't know Giant copper rods is going to make enough new infrastructure projects that more people are going to buy them Like I don't know what industry you're in in some industries You can just you can just torch your inventory Not not literally light it on fire, but you can just go really aggressive on the pricing You can move through a bunch of it. You can generate some cash flow. You get your you get your payroll paid You get you know, maybe you're a little behind on your taxes as well You get that dealt with you go a little more conservative on your on your reorder and you can get you can get your feet back under you right But especially a business that is that is scaling that is growing can Can can run into trouble Because it's easy to look at your sales, right and go oh wow We sold twice as many this you know this quarter as we did last quarter I project that we're going to sell twice as many again the next quarter So you take all the money that you got back from that inventory that you bought and then sold All the money you made on top of that and you put it right back into buying more inventory Well, hold on a second. What happened to all the profit? I can't I can't pay my staff and screwdrivers and hoodies Perk sure But payment no they can't pay their rent. They can't pay their food bill and screwdrivers. That's not how it works, right? So you have to carefully As you are growing manage your cash flows So you're keeping enough of the profitability to cover your operating expenses And you are keeping enough of it to order more So that you have enough inventory for your growing business And this is why a lot of a lot of businesses take on outside debt We have made the decision to grow organically to not take on outside debt as it happens right now We do have a modest line of credit and this is maybe going to sound a little out of touch But we have about two and a half million canadian dollars on our line of credit if you must know And that was part of the lead up to black friday cyber monday because we ordered in a whack ton of inventory Alongside having some expensive outlays like the tech house and some other stuff that i'll get into fairly soon with you guys That all kind of hit us toward the middle to the end of 2025 And so for that reason we had to dip into our line of credit Probably looking at how black friday went we won't need that line of credit for much longer But it's just part of managing your cash flow and if for whatever reason your credit's not strong or is not pre negotiated even Then it can be a big problem Even if you're growing even if you're profitable So why can't I just Order a bunch And put it in a warehouse till it sells out in europe which is where i assume you want it because you're saying cheers from the netherlands Not only right am i going to be tying up cash flow if i order too much But what i could also be doing Is i could be increasing my month to month operational expenses Then it's a double whammy that's really tough Because i have a whole bunch of bills due for all this inventory that i purchased It's sitting in a warehouse that now guess what now i have to pay monthly In some cases more frequently than monthly for the storage Of said inventory in said warehouse everybody at every stage in the chain has to feed their families Right so i can't just tell that warehouse oh well you should just store it for me for free. Why should they i'm not a charity They don't owe me anything So unfortunately it's always a fine balancing act when you're expanding between What you are forecasting for your sales how much available cash flow you have and you know what What your partners can do to help to enable you to achieve your growth what kind of credit you can draw from It's complicated We'd love to have an EU warehouse. We'd love to it would be nice someday you know Will whatever entity is willing we will But it is not this day. No What's up boys line us are their new sweatpants Hold on one second. Oh boy. Uh, mr. Nebbe says making 22 million in adsense last year Two and a half million of credit is nothing that 22 million adsense was all time That's over the entire existence of the LTT channel since 2008 I saw quite a few people who were sort of confused by that from the interview that was ever Not not in one year. Okay. Go ahead. Sorry What's up boys line us are there new sweatpants coming soon miss the stealth ones? I guess mr. Cheap over there got them all um New sweatpants coming. I think we have some new sweatpants coming. Um, I don't have a time frame on those But if we do it will probably be in like winter spring. So should be You know sometime We'll definitely make sweatpants again at some point. There's the dropout sweatpants Are those? Yeah, I don't think we have all the sizes in stock. We oh I don't think the thing is showing properly and another challenge with having different distribution centers around the world You're looking at one site that doesn't necessarily mean that the other site has them in stock Fun time challenges Next one in Sure thing. Um, do you have any stretches of road that you like to drive on the bike? I unfortunately just I haven't ridden my motorbike in three years. I hopefully they are going to put it together this winter and I will ride it in the spring um For me, it's less about like a particular road and it's more just like air You know and the and the agility. I love just I love the I love the space you have you can create a lot of space for yourself on the motorbike like I Uh, my justification to myself and you can call it rationalization. I don't care. I won't be offended Um, but it's very clear that on a motorbike if you get in an accident You are very much more dead than you would be necessarily if you're a cager um However It's got to start any terminology. Yeah, however You can create a lot more buffer space for yourself on a motorcycle than you can In a car and so, you know, I can when I'm passing I can create like Nine feet of space between me and any other vehicle whereas in a car I'll be more like three feet away. So if someone is behaving in an unpredictable fashion I think I am less likely to be obstructed by them in any way and end up in an accident on a bike Even if the consequences of said accident will be much worse on a bike. That is a tough line of thinking You're you're entitled to it. I'm a super defensive rider. I can tell you that much Um, I you're entitled to it. I create extra space for myself I don't I never want to be beside someone when I'm on the bike I'm always watching 360 And it is it is easier. It's you have way better visibility You're way smaller Yeah, scrappy saying t-bones don't care. Yeah, there's a there's a decent amount of scenarios. That's so true You can't correct for that's so true. Yep. I believe that you do those things Yep, and I believe that that You know probably makes you safer than a lot of riders But I there are also just things that you know and a big part of it is the cargo fast hit go boom There's a big part of it is the environment that I ride into like I mostly just commute to and from work Highway there and back And so if if I was if I was in a different environment, it might be a completely different situation So just make of that what you will right like I'm not saying that anything about my experience is applicable to your own Just set up my nas why is raid zero with all used ssds and no off-site backup the safest layout Thank you for mcm. The argument that Linus was just Having you know if you're going raid zero all ssds used ssds You're gonna pay more attention to your setup be a little bit more aware if anything is failing. I'm archiving Just be you know, you're gonna be you're gonna be more careful. How could you curate that Dan? What the heck Fine First time watching live from france Thanks to the earlier schedule schedule. I I don't know what I'm supposed to say anymore You've mentioned many times that sony playstation's controllers are much Inferior to microsoft slash x boxes. Can you explain why? um, so first of all the dual sense is amazing um But going back to the dual shock series personally I and Luke from his hand gestures Agrees I prefer to have my thumbs In a symmetrical resting position So i'm on my abxy here and i'm on my analog stick here. I do not prefer to be on my Triangle circle square, whatever the last one is here and then on my thumb stick here I do not prefer that as my resting position. Yep. I'm not primarying the d-pad that simple. Yep Last one I got for you today. Good day lanky lukey and Dan. I don't get a special name What is the best way to determine if a GPU is going bad? I have a 30 60 ti in my hp omen desktop and lately it seems like it's struggling with basic things like youtube I'd probably run a stress test run fur mark on it or something like that see if it artifacts. Um, Check if there's dust check your temperatures. Yeah, maybe repaste it 3000 series. Yep I mean, you're not going to be losing your warranty on it at this point. So yep You might as well give it a shot. Um, I would definitely Hit your system with a ddu. Just google ddu Yeah, give it a little freshening up and then install your drivers fresh see if the issues go away failing that I would try a fresh Windows install. It's a 30 60 ti So we're probably talking like a seven year old eight year old Windows installed by this point Um, and then if you're still having issues then yeah, it might be it might be a problem All right, well, hey, thanks for tuning in you guys. We'll see you again next week same bad time Well, probably probably back to the regular time next week, but definitely same bad channel. Probably. Yeah. Bye You"}