Oh, hi there. I didn't see you.
Hi, I saw you. Well, I don't see you.
I think I've done this before. I think I've done this at literal
bit in the intro.
Oh no, your video cannot be monetized
due to copyright claims. Oh boy.
Yeah, I assume it's because of the screen capture?
The video of the TV. Yeah.
They're trying different versions where they cut it down.
Yeah, okay. I'm sure it'll be fine.
We'll figure it out. I'm pretty sure that reviewing a video format is
pretty defensible, fair use-wise.
No one is watching that film like that. So we'll
I'll give you guys a little bit of inside baseball.
If you just re-upload a slightly changed video
enough times to YouTube, eventually copyright ID doesn't notice it.
So yeah, and realistically what paramount?
Is it paramount for that one? I can't remember. Realistically the rights holder
for that movie that we like have on screen for a little bit to do image
quality comparisons is not gonna like come after us manually for that.
Warner Bros. Warner Bros. Yeah.
They're Bros. I heard. They also warned us.
Warner, hardly even knew her.
Are you mic'd? I think so.
Okay, I'm just not sure if they can only hear half of this conversation.
Good evening Linus. Where are you at? Evening.
You must be in Euroland. How's it going over there?
Hopefully better than it's going here.
Is New Zealand still like... I heard that because all the billionaires
are like running away to New Zealand, it kind of sucks there now too.
Because New Zealand was like supposed to be the best, you know, of no strategic
importance whatsoever, but also like of a pretty western standard of living.
How are you guys doing? I don't know what time it is.
Is anyone awake in New Zealand right now?
New Zealand time right now. Oh yeah, someone could be tuning in over their breakfast
in New Zealand. New Zealand is not Europe though.
No, I was talking about
places where things might be going better than here.
That's all.
Edgigan says
Euroland is comparatively I eat.
Alright, cool. Nice. Cool.
Alright.
Yeah, turbulence in New Zealand.
It'd be kind of cool to be able to see
a high-five guy says Germany not doing so hot right now. Oh yeah, the elections
coming up. Yeah, yeah, Germany looks like things are...
I don't follow German politics like at all.
So take this for what it is, but
what I have gleaned is it looks like some coalition basically
broke down. The coalition of never cooperate with
the far-right guys apparently just kind of broke down recently over
some issue. So that's
something. Yep.
Mattie says the UK is just as terrible as it was 10 years ago.
Dude, I don't understand. I was over there for vacation recently
and I'm like obviously I was in touristy areas like Edinburgh or whatever.
But I don't understand how people live over there at all.
It's so expensive. Yeah, our cost of
living here, especially in Vancouver, Canada is
stupid. But like
is stupider a word? Because it feels like
that's kind of where things are going.
Yes, C. Jackson, Canada's election is not too far away,
but the tide has turned a little bit. Thankfully,
Trudeau had the wisdom to pull out of the race early enough
for someone else to conceivably take up the mantle.
Because like there's a lot of folks like me
that regardless
of our politics and our personal beliefs, we're simply not
going to be willing to vote for Trudeau again at this point, regardless of
which platform we prefer, which I'm honestly not going to get into
right now. But Trudeau was uniquely
poorly positioned to win an election.
Well, polls were, like conservators were doubling. Yeah.
Linus Town still on the books. Linus Town has never been on the books.
Linus Town was always a joke. No, that's why I'm here.
No, no, no Linus Town. No taxes.
Culp, culp, culp. Potato Culp.
Someone sent me a town that was for sale pretty recently, and I was just like,
no. We can just recreate Schitt's Creek.
Oh man.
Can we please get Linus Town? Dude,
buy a cruise trip, you know, buy our cruise ship. Okay, I could afford
a town before I could afford a cruise ship. You have any idea what cruise ships
cost?
I can't even wrap my brain around how that industry even functions,
because like, yeah, people pay a lot to be on a cruise ship,
but like, and I've never taken a cruise to be clear, so this is all just my perception
as an outsider, but it seems like there's a lot of freaking staff
on these ships. There's a lot of amenities that just make no
sense, like ice rinks and things like that.
They burn a ton of fuel, it's like,
sure, good luck everybody.
Apparently,
it's about $300,000 a day for fuel.
$300,000 a day. This is for marine insight, so I don't know how.
In fuel. 130 for low grade fuel, but if it uses marine gas oil,
which is cleaner fuel, it'll cost a ship $300,000 a day.
So these things, well, they'll go for a week, and they'll blow
a million dollars on fuel. That's wild.
Like, what are we even
doing here? It's like $50, $80 expensive, sure,
but like, burning a thousand of these in a week
just to like, go somewhere. If I burned $50, $80s at
that rate, you guys would be up in arms. You'd be so mad. You'd be like,
Linus, you gotta stop burning $50, $80s. You'd sit me down, you'd sit me right down.
You'd get on my level for that eye contact,
you'd go, Linus, it's not okay.
I don't know, stop.
No, no, it doesn't matter what your reason was.
Sometimes the reason's not important.
Think of the impact. Think of how many gamers
can't have those GPs. Do you just sit me down?
Alright, should we do this
thing? Linus for NDP leader.
Man, are you calling me a loser? You calling me
a lifelong loser because the NDP are never going to win at a federal level.
I'm sorry. And again, I'm not even getting
into my politics. I don't feel like it right now, but like,
I don't know, they're just like, it's almost comical
how they just can't, they just can't, they can't win.
Oh, Jacob Framework
just solved it for me. Fun fact,
most of the cruise lines make their money from the casinos on board.
That makes so much more sense now. Cause I was looking at the ticket
prices. Of course it's, the answer is always
gambling. Why does anyone still care about a
20 year old video game? Gambling.
Why does anybody go to that godforsaken city in the middle of the freaking desert?
Gambling. Why does anyone give two craps about
cryptocurrency that has no real world utility?
The answer is always gambling.
Okay. It's always gambling.
Man, how do we get into the gambling
industry? Why do we have to be morally opposed to it? Don't we have merch mystery
boxes? We do have the occasional
merch item where there's a slightly different like thing on the shirt. You still get this shirt though.
It's not really the same. Yeah, we explicitly
disable gambling through even AdSense. We don't do
gambling-ness, but man, would it ever be
lucrative. The amount of money that sports betting
apps spend on advertising tells me all I need to know about how much money
is being wasted on sports betting. Yeah, cause it's
literally is a zero sum game. Every dollar
that a betting app spends is a dollar that they collected
from some Joe Chump who
guessed wrong which, you know, Superman could put the rubber
thing in the goalpost or whatever. You know, like it's
in certain mean with the guy mining for diamonds. Okay, in all seriousness
I have a new retirement dream. So my old retirement dream
was to drive a school bus just like Pete. Pete was my
school bus driver when I was in high school and what was really
special about Pete was that he didn't need to drive the bus.
He was retired with a full pension and
just kind of did it to get out of the house and
have some fun being a complete jackass to children.
And he would, so the way he would like
yell at us to, like if we sat, you know, if we man-spreaded a little
bit in the edge seat, you know, and we had like a toe in the aisle, he
would stop the bus. Like he wasn't the kind of bus driver to be like, don't make me stop this bus
and then never do it. He would stop the bus. He would come in the back. He'd get all his
head, face all red and his like veins popped and he would be like, keep the
aisle clear. And I was like, whoa. And so
I figured out eventually that Pete didn't have to be there at all. He just
did it for the sheer joy of it. Now, I wouldn't necessarily be a Pete,
but I had this dream of kind of driving a school bus as my
sort of get out of the house in the morning in the afternoon. You work
like, you know, three hours a day, three and a half hours a day or whatever.
You pick up the odd shift when you do like a, you know, a class ski trip or whatever
else, just to kind of, kind of keep busy, but not really, you know, not really
think too much. So, so, so Pete was my inspiration so that I could,
he was like what not to do, but also seemed like a pretty good retirement
plan. I have a new retirement plan, speaking of mining diamonds.
I was on Facebook marketplace of all places. Dude, my Facebook marketplace is
frickin' wild. Frickin' wild. I train the algorithm to just give me weird stuff
and someone was selling like gold claims
and I was like, what is a gold claim? I don't know that. Okay, so
a gold claim is the mining and
like extraction rights for any gold within
an area of land and typically
they're quite large, like measured on the order of like hectares. They're
enormous. Basically, you're buying the right to go
like faffing about in the wilderness looking for
looking for gold.
And I don't know man, I came across this YouTube channel where they
bought a claim and they, you don't own the land. So, you just own
temporarily the rights to mine the land
to prospect the land. And so, they're like DIYing
this like, you know, breaking down the ore and frickin'
like extracting the gold and they got these. I don't know.
It sounds cool. It actually sounds like a blast.
And if I was at a stage in my life where I didn't need to be successful
or I could just like, you know, go out and like put on my prospecting
hat and get my pickaxe or whatever, like obviously that's like a caricature
of what, you know, a miner might look like. But like, I don't know, dude.
Oh, sorry. No, these guys bought, they bought a mine. So, it was like
an actual, it was an actual mine, but it was like not being used anymore because I guess
it wasn't yielding enough to be like commercially viable, but as
like a small group of individuals, they were able to make, I don't know, it sounds like a blast, dude.
Obviously, I wouldn't be able to do that if I'm like, you know, well into
my 40s or whatever. So, it would have to be relatively soon. I guess
this is how you guys find out I'm retiring to become a gold miner.
I think we make a video about it. Yeah, but I don't know, dude, I don't know.
I think it'd be cool. Retirement
dream for me is living in Linestown. No, there is
no Linestown, damn it. I've told you people. See, I thought your retirement plan was going
to be like buying a bus, making it like a camper bus, and then driving to Mexico
or something. I don't know why your retirement plan includes work. Oh, no,
yeah, no, it has to be, it has to be work. I don't think I could handle it.
I don't think I could just like, I don't think I could just be idle.
I think I would like turn to jelly. I think I'd be unhappy.
I'd have to have something to do. And like, if that thing to do involved
like, you know, finding, you know, gold flakes
and then like learning how to, learning how to, you know,
make the aqua regia and, you know, get the purity really
high and like, like I'd be so excited to make that first, you know,
little, you know, two ounce gold bar or something like that.
You know, like, I think that'd be super cool. I spent
four million dollars to make ten thousand dollars. Yeah, right.
Like, if I actually just like completely
didn't care and I could just like
spend money without actually like working, you know, doing streams like this or whatever
and I could just do things that didn't make any sense,
I think becoming a gold prospector would be pretty high up on my list.
I think for a limited amount of time. Oh yeah, yeah, I think for like a year.
I think for like a year, that would be really fun. Canadian winter would roll around
and like, even in BC, like it's like kind of
wet, miserable, like, yeah, and I'd be like, ah, that's probably enough of this, but
still, that'd be cool. I owned a gold site
fuel and COVID made me go bankrupt. I don't know what a gold site fuel is,
but I'm sorry to hear that.
I guess we should probably start the video at some
point. Hey, start the stream. Should we do that? Are you guys down?
Okay. All right, Dan's ready.
Oh, that is that blue. Okay. Yeah, neat.
Cool.
Yeah, my dad's technically retired, but now works as a
high school teacher just for the fun of it. That does not sound fun.
Yeah, working as a teacher doesn't sound that fun. If you've only had teenagers in the
last 10 years, you know it's not fun. Yeah.
Speedrun going bankrupt as many times as possible
in retirement. I wouldn't actually want to go bankrupt,
but I do think it would be fun to like find out what businesses are viable
if you like go hard at them for a year or something
like that. I think that'd be super cool.
I have not called the boat guy yet. Dan has given me his contact info, but I have
not made the call yet.
Yeah, not yet.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm going to give a whole new meaning to Whale Land.
I will call the guy. I will call the guy. Geez, I will call the guy.
Relax, Wansho audience.
Oh, live monetization settings. Is this new?
These settings will apply to all new streams created in YouTube studio.
Oh.
Okay.
I'm just going to screenshot this and send it to Colton because I don't know
what our, I don't know what our processor policy is for this. I don't know
why it's prompting me. I just, I opened up the dashboard.
Sorry, excuse me. I opened up the dashboard and it just like prompted me to change
our monetization settings and I don't, I'm not in charge of that stuff anymore.
To be clear,
I do weigh in on it. Like if they try to increase
things too much, I'm all like, hey, we probably shouldn't do that. We ended up cutting
a bunch of the sponsor stuff from that
stream, not stream. That React video we did that had frankly
too many inserts. I agree with you guys.
I don't know. These are supposed to be
but this prompted me when I opened
the thing. Okay. I will press cancel.
Okay. So I'm just going to press cancel and then he
will set it to something later. Discard changes. Nice.
Nice. Okay.
Wow. They're really pushing this. Like I'm here in
the dashboard and they're all like creators adopting live
automated midrolls on average saw over 20% uplift in in stream
ad revenue per hour. Wow. A 20% uplift on in stream ad
revenue per hour. It's not a major
revenue source for us. So it's like whatever per
hour. But for someone who like their bread and butter is
streaming for six, eight hours a day or whatever, that's a huge difference.
Because maybe instead of six, eight hours, it could be six hours.
Which is pretty nice, man. I don't know how those folks do it streaming
all day like that. It's freaking wild. I'm not
built for that. In fact, I've actually I've found as I'm maybe as I'm getting older
or whatever. As time is passing
these long streams, like especially the ones that go for like three or four
hours, they like wipe me. Like it was the
next day, I think two streams ago that I was like I was talking to Alex and I was like
man, like my brain is just fry sizzled today.
I can't think. I can't focus on anything. He's like, oh yeah,
it's probably for me being live for like five hours. I was like
oh, that makes sense.
Okay. Alright, we're real close. We're real close.
Okay.
We're just waiting for an answer on the momentization thing.
Okay, let's do this thing. We ready?
Or wait, sorry, did you say we're waiting for something? No, I was asking what we were waiting for.
Oh, we're not waiting for anything. We're waiting for me to be mentally prepared.
Okay, Andy, you good to go? Yep. You ready? Yep. Alright, let's do this thing.
I am
Maybe I'll start in front of the
Yeah, I'm going to start in front of the table. Is that cool? Does that work?
And then David, could I, after I see the thing, can I like just
hand this to you off camera and then we'll do it like that? Okay.
You're going to have to throw it at me.
Oh, right. Which direction do I throw?
Continuity? What's that?
To my left, to my left. That's always easy to remember.
Okay, cool. Okay, so to my left. What's the thing I throw again?
It's the first part. Ah, yes. Oh, wow.
Okay. To me. Got it. That makes sense.
That's why I'm here.
That totally makes sense. I would not want to
actually throw that. Yeah, I don't want to actually throw that and damage it.
Oh, yeah.
I'm pushing 40 pretty quick here, so it is what it is.
Alright, let's resume the selected, shall we?
Oh, wow, that's going really fast.
Oh, but the controls are working, so that's great. Okay. Resuming the
selected, now. No, no, I give it to you once it
goes.
No one likes watching a progress bar
all across their screen. And thanks to their dated workstations,
our poor editors have been watching a lot
of slow progress bars. The only reasonable thing to do then
is build them new ones, but the PC landscape has changed
a lot since 2021 when we made our
last big improvements to our editing stations. So, we are
teaming up with ASUS who sponsored this stream and sent over some
awesome parts to try, like the AMD Ryzen 7
9800X3D, which we are not going
to use.
Did you roll the thing? Yeah. Oh, when do I come back? You're back. Oh!
In fact, our CPU upgrade
might be a little controversial. We're going
with the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X. That's
right. Desktop CPUs, like
peasant consumer CPUs. But here's the thing,
even without the 3D vCache, which doesn't consistently boost
productivity performance, the gamers watching this are probably agreeing
with our choice going, heck yeah! AMD dominance!
But the content creators that are watching might know
that video editing performance is actually one of Intel's last
strongholds, thanks in part to QuickSync. Now,
QuickSync, yeah, let's stand over here. QuickSync is Intel's branding
for the dedicated hardware that accelerates video encoding and decoding
on their CPUs and their GPUs. And it really
does work, allowing Intel to outperform AMD in Adobe Premiere
timeline performance. And I actually encode it as well
in many cases. That is why we went with their Core i9
1300K in our last behind the scenes editing rig
upgrade. But here's the issue. We've heard a lot
of complaints from our editors about system stability. A lot.
And when it comes to getting work done, it doesn't matter how
smooth you can scrub your timeline if the system crashes on the daily.
So now that the Core Ultra launch has come and gone with the resounding
womp-womp, we thought maybe it's time for a
walk on the red side. Besides, the 9950X seems to have
solid performance with intraframe codecs, which we use.
And it's got a potential upgrade path thanks to AMD's long-term
commitment to the AM5 platform. Though it is
worth noting that we made a significant
investment in editing stations based on AMD promises of
long-term socket support back in the Threadripper 3000 days.
And we all know how that worked out, don't we?
Oh, we don't. Some of us don't. Bad. It worked out bad.
It sucked. AMD just abandoned the platform immediately
and was like, sorry, not sorry.
Anywho. The 9950X
has 16 Zen 5 cores. 24 threads.
32 threads. Sorry about that. A base clock of 4.3 GHz
and it turbos to up to 5.7 GHz. Other than the
X3D, which, again, are productivity benchmarks, don't seem to really
benefit from that much, it is the top of the flipping
line. Now, we could have gone with a workstation CPU still.
AMD does still have them, even though they abandoned that particular
platform on me. Way to go, AMD.
But here's the issue. AMD has kind of gutted
their Threadripper offerings, dramatically increasing pricing for their top
core-count models and lagging behind their desktop chips
in terms of core technology pretty much across the board.
You still can't get a Zen 5 Threadripper.
What the freaking heck? So if you care about single-threaded
performance, which some things, even in a productivity environment,
do, then a desktop chip becomes
the reasonable option. Not to mention that the mother
boards for the current Gen Threadripper pros cost about as much as a desktop
CPU and a desktop motherboard combined.
Though that won't be the case for the desktop board
that ASUS wanted to show off today. The ROG Crosshair X870e
Hero, a $700 monster
with absolutely everything. I'm talking 5GB
and 2.5GB Ethernet. Wi-Fi 7, 5M.2
Where the devil even are they all? Okay, 1, 2, and then
I assume there's 3 more under this plate right here.
Look at that, look at it go. It's got their AI
advisor. Everyone's hot on AI features, but this one may
actually be helpful for beginner builders and can highlight ASUS specific features for
veterans. We're going to have a look at it when we finish building. And it's also got
support for 4 dim slots with up to 256 gigs of RAM at
surprisingly high speeds or
up to 8200 megatrans per second on Ryzen 9000
series with not 4 dims. Their
NitroPath DRAM technology means that there are shorter gold finger
pins, which results in optimized single pathways that ensure faster data transfers between
your DRAM and CPU, as well as stronger slot retention force.
And if I said the CPU choice for this build
was going to be controversial, it is nothing compared to what we've got
for our RAM. ASUS, because of their
whole NitroPath optimization, Tom Foolery that they've got
going on here, worked with Kingston on support
for these specific modules. These are
161 US dollars each
for a total of 256 gigs of RAM in this thing.
Now, normally on Ryzen platforms, if you want to run all four
slots, especially at high capacities, you are looking at
pretty slow speeds, but they claim that with all
four of these running, you can hit up to, what was it, 5200?
5600. We will have to see
if that works, because the really mind blowing thing for me,
if you want to get the installation, is that these are CU dims.
Yes, my friends, CU dims. Those
special high capacity dims that
AMD doesn't really support other than in bypass mode,
which just completely ignores the benefit
of a CU dim, because there's like a CKD
thing on it, and AMD
just supports it in the sense that they just bypass it and don't
use it. So the idea behind these is that they run at super high speeds
on Intel, but then ASUS and Kingston
were like, oh yeah, we're going to use these dims
something, AMD, something. High speeds, very high capacity.
Sure. Let's see how it goes.
Cool. I'm going to put that there.
And we're all going to hope for the best. Alright, now, it is
worth noting that not everything in our configurations is changing.
Our storage, oh, where is our storage? I was just starting to wonder
that, is it in the motherboard? Did we lose the storage? Yeah, it could be.
Anything's possible. Do we have tools? Yes, I do have tools.
There you are, back there. Where do you get that? Let me tell
you, lttstore.com, let's go precision screwdriver set.
These are, these are moving like hotcakes. Y'all are
loving these for the longer skinny parts of the shaft
so they get into recessed places a little bit more easily on things
like laptops and game consoles. The stronger
magnetism compared to some competitors in the market.
The nice smooth spinning top that
I saw a really funny post on the subreddit where someone was holding it up to
their cat who was like super suspicious of it and then eventually
goes after it and it's really funny. I can see
a cat not really liking that noise. Apparently the SSD was just left in here. It was just left in here.
Okay, perfect. Well, here we go.
Dang it, where are the, this is the, this is
an issue. Oh, I see. Well, why did I take off the one that, anyway, okay, well
there's four of our M.2 slots on this thing. This was totally
intentional so that I could show you guys where all the SSD
slots are on this motherboard, this fine sample of the motherboard.
Anyway, parts that stayed the same. We've kept our
one terabyte Crucial P5 pluses. Wait, what?
Only one terabyte line is? Yes, and there's a very good reason
for that. We used to have some editors that would
you know, sneakily even upgrade their stations with
larger SSDs and what the temptation was
at that time was for them to dump footage onto their local
drives and then, oh man, I'm just making a quick fix
so like, I'll just throw it in the timeline, I'll export the video and then
it doesn't matter. But what happens when you do that is you don't have
all your stuff in one place and when you're sick the next day and someone needs to go
make another fix to that video, they go, what's this media off line?
Oh, they didn't copy it to the server. So we actually
go out of our way to have small storage drives in our editing
systems so that nobody is tempted to copy raw footage onto their local
drive and work on it. We all work off of our redundant and backed
up server. So there you go. Not
only do we save a buck, but this Gen 4 drive is reasonably
performant and has a DRAM cache and all it needs is to store the OS
and the software that we use. We also kept our case
hold on, let me just throw this back on. I actually, ooh, I'm liking this tooless mechanism
for this. Not bad. So it's got a little clip there, you pop that off
and then you got a little slide there. I mean, it feels very expensive
but I guess that's cause it is.
So we're still using the Phanteks Eclipse G500A. It's not the world's
most exciting case, certainly, but it's really easy to
work in and has decent build quality. We don't need our workstation to be exciting
anyway. It's a workstation, not an excitement station.
Oh, what are we doing for cooling? You know what? I think I want to put my
cooler on before we put this in here. So why don't we talk about that next.
We are still using the Noctua NHD 15.
Again, it's not the world's most exciting choice, but it's
hard to argue with a great air cooler that offers good thermal performance
with low noise and this is a really key one for me.
Super easy installation because right now, as I build
this machine, it's not necessarily the only time anyone will have to work on this
system. Things go wrong, especially the motherboards
and those threadripper systems. Those went wrong a lot.
And so when it's someone's job to go in and fix
up these systems, it's nice when they're working with a retention mechanism that
is easy to use and not only that, but quick to apply.
This will take me a minute, so
I'll put my screwdriver. This will take me a minute to install though. So Dan,
do you want to hit me with a merge message? You don't have any merge messages?
Is the dashboard working or is it just because I didn't tell people that there are merge messages?
Oh, probably because you didn't tell people. I mean, I did get one.
Let's see. Thanks for the bag Linus. I will use it until it falls apart
or blows up. Huh. Well,
hopefully neither of those things will happen, but if
one of them does, I hope your bag falls apart.
Can't wait for that to be clipped out of context anyway. If you guys want to interact with the stream,
the best way to do it is with a merge message. All you got to do is head over to
lttstore.com and if you add some high quality
merchandise to your cart and when, oh, does this one come
with the offset mount? No, this is an older one. Okay, we'll just use the standard
mount. And when you're in the cart, you will see a little
prompt, a little box to send us a merge message. That'll go
to producer Dan, who will either just push it up
to the bottom of the stream. So, you know, you can do like a, you know, hey mom or
happy anniversary or will you marry me or you know, whatever it is that you want to put down
there for the LTC fan in your life and or he will
respond to it himself or he will curate it and
I can respond to it later on in the stream.
Let's get this installed.
Oh, I could also bring up the chat. Oh, where the heck did I put my computer?
I do not remember. David, do you have my laptop?
Yeah, I put it on the table. One second. Sick. Yeah, Ken has.
Thank you. Do you want it right here?
Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, here's good. Let me just make sure that it doesn't have
the panel with all of our stream keys open. It totally did. That would
have been extremely not funny. I mean
it would have been a little funny, but
Hopefully it's not like a social security number. You can change them. Only later. Well, no, you can
change them, but it would have been very challenging
to change them quick enough for it to not be a problem. Oh, fair.
Google signed me out.
I had the dashboard open earlier in the stream and it signed me out of my
account. It's so infuriating.
I swear it signs me out way more
than every 30 days. Like there's no way.
Okay.
I am going to successfully type my
password on the fourth
fifth try. Fifth try. There we go. We've got this.
All right. Motherboard prices need
to chill, says the tech tempest over in Floatplane chat. Yeah,
I agree with you 100%. Like on the one hand
there are components that have gone way up in price that I
kind of understand. Like
yes, NVIDIA owns absolutely some of the blame for
GPU prices being completely out of control, but they don't own
all of it. TSMC doesn't publish their price lists publicly
or anything like that, but the industry scuttle butt is that a wafer
is costing several times what it used to. So there have been
legitimate cost increases that have driven at least some of the
price ballooning that has gone on for GPUs. Clearly
not all of it, but at least some of it. Whereas like
motherboards? I don't know man.
Like coppers obviously up
10 or 20 years ago. I think that in general they're built
to a higher standard of quality than they used to be.
Like I bet you could build a pretty cheap motherboard with
little caps all over it and stuff these days still, but nobody wants to
do that because nobody wants them all to just explode a couple years later
while they're still under warranty.
I don't know man, it just feels like
and okay yeah, here's another example. It's like part of the cost of this board
is definitely these gigantic heat sinks
that are machined out of solid friggin' piece of aluminum. Have you priced
like a brick of aluminum lately? I have.
I don't remember the price, but I remember being surprised at the price. It's freakin'
expensive. Oh, I forgot what I was doing. I was supposed to be putting this cooler
on. Alright, let's put it on some thermal goop. Just so you know guys
if you buy a cooler these days from Noctua
it comes with a different version of the hold down hardware here
and basically it has two holes
in it and if you have a CPU that has the compute dies
down at the bottom which I believe is all of Ryzen 7000
and Ryzen 9000 then you can move the cooler down a little bit
that is clearance permitting on your motherboard and you can
position more of your cooler's
heat pipes directly over the hottest part of the
IHS which is the heat spreader that sits over top of those compute dies
Ouch! Oh! Shoot
I need a bandaid and I have to fill up the form
I cut myself. Yeah.
Dang it. Wow, that's really sharp. Okay, if ASUS
is watching, which I assume they are because they did kind of sponsor the video
this little piece right here wouldn't normally be a problem
but because of the sheer weight of the
power and cooler, the pressure
when my finger got stuck under it sliced through me
Oh man. Ah! You know what? She might not bleed
I might not have to fill up the form. Anyway, why don't we finally
put thermal compound on this? Dan, do you have any messages for me?
Yes, I have a couple here actually
they are starting to come in pretty intensely. Why don't you go ahead and hit me
Any chance of reviving the summer jacket even if it's not ocean friendly?
I would love something light for dog walks in the sun
The summer jacket. Oh, you mean the UV hoodie? Is that what they are talking about?
Maybe, I don't know. Oh, they said revive though
because the UV hoodie never actually got released. It was a product
that we made a couple of samples of and then
we found out that we couldn't achieve the level of UV
resistance that we wanted without resorting to nasty coatings
and there was actually
manufacturing issues with the fabric that we had that didn't require
the coatings. Dude, we did a production
run with the factory and they were the ones who told us
I really don't think you guys can sell this. That
never happens because apparently the sizing for a medium
could be anywhere from small to XL just because of how difficult that
fabric was to work with. So we are still working on a
sun like a UV blocking hoodie because I love
mine and Tatiana is
giving it her attention. I believe Bridget on the like
so she's on the material side and then I believe Bridget from the fashion
team is giving it some of her attention although it might actually be Lisa
we want to do it but it won't be until summer
2026 and that assumes that we managed to find
a material that is suitable. I am
no, I shouldn't say that.
I am a little more open to coatings
than I used to be. There is one garment
that I have tentatively greenlit like a coating
in order to achieve, I forget if it was stain resistance or
water repellency or UV resistance. I forget what it
was but it's some kind of treatment and I have tentatively greenlit
that one but the reason that I greenlit it is because
it was the kind of garment that would only be washed
ten times over a span of several years. Like I think
it might have been like a jacket or something like that where you're not
washing it every week as part of your cycle because
I read your guys' comments, I use the products, I know that you guys
are beating the absolute stuffing out of this stuff.
I see the posts on Reddit and stuff where people
show off their collection of LTT gear and I can tell a lot of it is
extremely well worn and I know you guys because I'm one
of you guys, I know you ain't separating your delicates
from your cotton stuff in the wash and I know you're just washing
everything on warm or whatever, right? So it does
limit us a little bit in terms of what kinds of materials that we can use
because we know that you guys are going to mistreat it and that
product design philosophy has worked out really well for us because we know
our customer. Like when you guys saw the project farm
video where Todd benchmarked our t-shirts against other t-shirts
and he found that they didn't shrink nearly as much, that's not because we have
magic cotton that doesn't shrink, it's because we
pre-shrink everything to an obsessive level as much as we are able
because we know that you guys are going to not take care of things properly
and that's exactly what Todd did. In his benchmark test
he washed the clothes like a guy,
which you know makes sense, he's a guy or whatever, but that is
not how you properly wash clothes and so we performed really well
in that test because we knew that was going to happen. That doesn't
mean that those other garments were bad, it just means that they were designed for people
who take care of their clothes properly. But anyway
I got to send a very gloaty message to the fashion team because they're always going
after me about like oh we could use this material, we just have to put
really good care instructions on the tag and people will totally not contact support
about it falling apart, I'm like no.
Alright let's go ahead and get this motherboard installed. Dan do you want to hit me with another
merge message? Yeah sure, let's see what you've got a couple more.
When I stream music using Plex Amp on my phone over data
my carrier Mint mislabels it as hotspot data.
Have you heard of this or no effects? Support is being useless.
Oh wow hotspot data.
I can't say that with any of the carriers that I've used here in Canada
I've had a problem with them mischaracterizing
any of the data that I've used on my phone
and honestly speaking I'm not
fully sure what that means because which carrier was it?
Mint. Mint sorry. That's Ryan Reynolds. That's right because
don't some of the more budget oriented carriers have separate data limits
for different uses? I do not know.
I believe so. I know for sure that T-Mobile does because they have partnerships
and stuff where there's certain things that you can do that do not
count against your data cap. I don't know
it's been a whole conversation in the US around
whether the carriers should have the right to prioritize certain data
or treat certain data differently and
all I can tell you is if you don't like that behavior you might just have to
kind of talk to your local representation. Do we have the hardware for
this case anywhere by any chance? No I was counting on it being in those
shelves. Ah okay well I will find some hardware
if it's not then I will. No no we got this we got this
um
I don't see the 632 bin
where do people take this stuff? I don't know why people take these
things. Counter sunk hard drive screws? Yeah I really
don't see either the M3 bin. Oh I've got the M3 bin. Got the M3 cap.
You gonna make it work?
Lost your mic.
Yeah.
Yeah I probably leaned against the thing. We got band-aids for you. Sorry about that.
Oh cool. Yes.
May I please have the smallest band-aid? Smala please.
That's our smallest band-aid?
Okay to be clear
if I was at home on my own time I would not even like put a band-aid
on this it's no big deal and I especially wouldn't need a team of people to
apply it for me. I think if you weren't on stream you wouldn't have done it.
I always fill up the form. Yeah because it's not
oh my gosh okay yeah yeah I know I know I know
disinfecting wipe. So the
reason is that in the workplace even something
like this could theoretically lead to an infection
it could be blood-borne you can however remote the possibility
you can die from a little owie and or like
lose a hand or an ARM or whatever and so with that in mind
from like a workplace safety
standpoint we have policies that ensure that if anyone does get a little
boo-boo at work we have processes
to document that and treat it so that in the event
that something really really terrible happens
they will at least get compensation for it
so as a leader here at the company
I feel that I should lead by example
and even though I kind of gripe about it and meme about it a little bit
make sure that if I am injured however small
I fill out the proper forms and do the proper documentation because I don't want someone to be
hurt or injured and then not be able to get coverage
because what the
is trying to protect against is people who get a little owie at home
and say oh no I got that at work so we have to have the documentation
for when it happened and what happened and what was done to treat it to ensure that we can prove
that it did in fact happen at work to make sure they get their coverage
that is why we do it not because I need someone to put a band-aid on for me
I am going to tilt this up so I can finish installing this here did we find
3632 screws or did we give up okay well hopefully we won't need any
we may not need any oh I might need a thumb screw at the very least
alright Dan do you want to hit me with a merge message
yeah sure here is another one for you why don't you guys edit on
Apple machines either a beefed out MacBook Pro or Mac
Studios Adobe applications are way more stable on Mac and they are more
compact and power efficient also why not knock to a black
why no what black knock to a
knock to a black oh I don't know you like the brown one
yeah I don't know brown is fine it doesn't really matter they are editing work stations
they are not gaming rigs as for your first question why we don't edit on Mac
under certain circumstances we actually do
so whenever we do like a trade show
or an industry event or whatever else where we need to do on-site editing
we do tend to travel with Macs as for
why we don't how much tether you got there Andy
you got a lot of tether oh look at that you got plenty of tether okay come on with me then
I truthfully
oh we have new people I didn't see anybody oh nobody
is here are they like out for a hey Alfred can I borrow you for a minute
oh yeah no yeah no sounds good
oh okay Alfred we had a question from a viewer
I don't know if you guys have like met Alfred yet but he's our
production manager guy now so they wanted to know
why we're like using custom PCs instead of just switching over to Mac because
of the better stability of Adobe applications on Mac you'll have to be
uncomfortably close to me because I have the mic alright well that's a great
question so we have used a combination of Macs and
PC but for I mentioned for like travel we take Mac books with us but
why not Mac here first of all we're using what we
have oh but we're building new machines yes
so we could oh we're open to it okay we're
apparently open to it we are open to it okay thanks Alfred I know
that some of our editors do strongly prefer PC I know that
not every application that we use in our workflow is
part of the Adobe suite I do know that
our info team would strongly prefer that we have
as few Macs as possible because please most of their
administration is for PCs and so most of our processes are
set up for PC but other than that apparently we are open to it
what we're also open to is using
and add in network card
hmmm
sonnet technologies wait we use sonnet
10 gig network cards why they're technically still the fancy
fancy Intel chip that we like oh okay I'm just
surprised that we have new ones from sonnet when we have like an entire
shelf of x5 40 cards sitting over in the warehouse
this one wasn't given to me by infra this one was I oh I need a
card and I went and grabbed it got it okay this might not be actually represented
all right well anyway even with boards that have 10 gig on board
LAN we use these add in next because we've just found them to be
more reliable is that true David no Dan
yet maybe I mean we used to have like
fiber to every station and now we do 10 gig
boards one they're really reliable but also I think a lot of the boards before
didn't have 10 gig built in I thought a big part of it too was the Kyoksia
or whatever it was in the motherboards doesn't play well with our 10 gig I can't
remember it's probably not important anymore well we no longer remember
why we use these add in 10 gig network cards but we do so
there you go this is the kind of thing that happens in a corporate environment that I think a lot of
enthusiasts don't necessarily get
exposed to is sometimes a decision is made for a reason that
totally makes sense in the time that it's made and it costs
so little to continue making that decision forever that there's
never any incentive to change it even if nobody who is left at
the company remembers why the decision was made or understands
why you continue to make it
oh man I mean there's nothing wrong certainly with using an Intel
nick there just isn't maybe necessarily any reason to do it we just
we already have so many of them that I guess we might as well just throw them in our systems
all right done for oh my goodness good gravy is
that ever heavy all right let's take a look at this power supply
sheesh this is the ROG 4 1200
watt platinum 3 it is
$515 so
full honesty this stream is sponsored by ASUS
but this is probably more than I would spend on a power supply
for a run of the mill video editing workstation
however it is jam packed full of features that ASUS would like
me to tell you about including their GAN MOSFET which ASUS claims
offers 30% more power efficiency their GPU first voltage
sensing with a patented intelligent voltage stabilizer
their magnetic OLED display magnetic
display are you guys even serious right now oh my god
oh my god I figured out why
it's so you can put it on either side
that's so smart so you can have
so you can have your OLED display and eat it too
depending on whether you want your fan oriented down or oriented up
I'm gonna go with fan oriented down
because I believe yes this case has a filtered bottom intake here I'll get you a closer
look at that Andy that is hilarious
no those aren't the pins those are just graphics but yes it looks
it kind of looks like it so that goes on there or it comes off
according to your preference that is
so funny
screwed it up way to go Linus you
dropped the ball that's what I dropped today
okay I mean they can't do it oh no oh yeah
oh look at that yeah and all the text is right side up regardless of which way you put it into
hilarious um
Anywho it's fully modular with compliance with the ATX
3.1 standard and comes with a 10 year warranty
let's go ahead and get it installed then do you want to hit me with a merchant message
or a thing heck yeah
Hey Linus any chance of offering a certificate like Coursera with LTT being well known
in the tech world wouldn't it be great to offer something like that for a refresher course
LTT University it's something that Colton has wanted to
develop for a long time and not necessarily that specifically
but some kind of course
courses can be extremely lucrative and when your job
title is business development manager I can understand
why trying to pursue something like that would be
very appealing but my issue every time we bring it up
is that our whole thing from day 0
has been taking advantage of YouTube
and it's incredible ability to democratize information
and knowledge
to democratize knowledge about
PCs and software and
troubleshooting and configuration and like all these things
all these things that we do are about the sharing of information
and so how do I reconcile that with a paid course
that is sort of blocked off like we do exclusive content
absolutely like over on LMG.GG
you'll find all kinds of wonderful exclusives like you can
have interviews with various members of our team
Sammy has a really cool series running right now he manages the Floatplane content
for us he's got a really cool series called Why is WAN late
where he kind of looks at the behind the scenes of what's going on around here
on a Friday afternoon but none of that is critical
that's fun but you don't need it to
make a good decision you know
you don't need it to help your friends build the best gaming computer for the money
and so I've always just felt like
yeah we could do a course on how to build a
computer or whatever we could do a course on
you know tech knowledge
but how do we differentiate that from our standard content that is our bread and butter
the reason that you guys engage with us
and how do we make that not just kind of a
how do we justify charging for what we would normally
give you for free so we would have to come up with a way to
really differentiate that content whether it's through
making it like super professional and super awesome
or whether it's going to another
layer of depth or to your point including like
a certificate with it or something like that but I just
I don't know man I
I just don't really
think people need a certificate to do this kind of
work I think what you really need is some experience and it can be useful
to get a certificate just to demonstrate that you
have some experience and you have some knowledge
but I don't think that's for us to develop
I think that if we were going to make a piece of content
that was you know focused on arming people with a whole
whack ton of knowledge you know something like how to build a PC
for and the kind of thing where there would obviously
be enough demand to make a ton of money
you know for the business development team
like I think the first one ended up getting like 10 million views or something
like that and the second one I think is already closing in on like two or
three like it's a really valuable resource
it's just with that in mind then
why are we paywalling it right like we don't really paywall anything
that is valuable beyond just kind of hanging out with us
right?
12.5 on the OG wow okay it's even more than I thought
and that's a long video that's a dense video that is not an
entertaining video that is an educational video that we
we obviously give our you know some of our entertainment flair to but it's meant
to be a resource
3.7 on the new one okay so yeah they're both doing better than I
thought actually I don't know I'm not saying
never it's possible Colton will talk me into it or we will come up
with an angle that really makes it feel sufficiently
different from our regular content that I think we could you know justify
it but right now there is nothing
there's nothing in the plan and we have other
feminist opportunities that we're looking at more eminently than that
yeah money for gold like yeah like becoming a gold prospector if you were
tuned into the pre-stream which is archived exclusively
on full plane if you guys want to go back and watch the
pre-show before WAN Show or the pre-stream before streams like this
that's a good kind of value for that membership
but that doesn't take away from you know just the tech
knowledge that we're disseminating
Dan you got another one for me yes I do
nice noise
hi little D little L and no big L just
built my first PC with ARGB
any suggestions on control software that won't make me run programs from three different
manufacturers to work for RAM GPU and motherboard
I think I'm using Signal RGB on my system
my NCIX signed PC in my office and that seems
to be going okay for me I feel like that landscape
is kind of always changing and you know who has the low
overhead application kind of all over the place
for my own system I can tell you right now I don't bother
like for my system at home where I actually care about performance
I just don't bother with it I just let it be rainbow vomit which
doesn't have any CPU overhead and I don't care but
if you care about it and you want to configure it then maybe give Signal RGB a try
I'd say that would probably be your best bet
full disclosure they have been a sponsor of ours in the past I don't think we've worked with them recently
but hey there you go make of that what you will
you use Signal as well okay cool
there is no perfect one though yeah that's fair
just plugging in a fan
connector here or I'm going to try this is going to be pretty tough okay Dan
you want to hit me again while I try and fight with this thing yeah sure
I really wish I did this before I put in this NIC I put PTM
7950 on my CPU and I have seen no cooling benefit over the
core cell thermal paste I had on there is my cooler the bottleneck
or did I probably apply it wrong
I doubt that you applied it wrong I think it would be pretty hard to screw up applying PTM
and also I want to
make it clear that while we sell PTM 7950 and we think it's a great
product it's not magic you know it's
thermal paste you should not expect to get a meaningful
performance boost from thermal paste you might see
a couple degrees lower temps depending on the processor type
but PTM is really best suited for direct
die processors like you might find in a
laptop for instance so
oh I've been using these straps wrong for years interesting
oh check this out I will come back to your question
I for all this time have been going like this
and then strapping it down like that which works but that's not what you're
supposed to do you're supposed to put them all the way
under then put this under then go like that
brilliant I just tech tipped myself
I am so happy
I can't believe that I've been doing this wrong all this time
I mean it's one of those things where it's like you know if it's working then whatever right if it fits
but no this is way better this ah this is great
oh actually no I don't like it as much on this one
because if I do it this way
then it's going to sit right there and I'm going to see the stupid cable
okay well hmm
okay well do whatever way works for you and this way works for me better for this one
so that I can get it over to this side and I can trap it
there between the hook and loop so it doesn't make its way back over
okay well I'm less annoyed with myself for doing it wrong
now that I know that this way can also be valid
what question was I answering again I no longer remember oh yeah PTM
so really it's best for bear dies so GPUs
are a great example we used PTM7950 in the last
scrapyard wars and that ended up getting us really nice temps
that contributed to our system being quieter because
the lower the temps on your GPU the lower it will spin the fans
especially in the default profile before you tune anything so there's a definite benefit there
but if you just throw it on a CPU with an
IHS like an integrated heat spreader and you expect like a
performance difference compared to what is already a pretty high performance
thermal paste then yeah I can see how you'd be disappointed
if it was released out of the gate but the thing about PTM
or the other thing about PTM is that it's designed for longevity
that stuff is super low validated
to last for an extremely long time many many many many many heating and cooling cycles
and my understanding is it actually tends to instead of
drying out like some other lesser thermal compounds
it actually has a tendency to perform a little bit better once it's broken in
which used to be I feel like more of a thing back in the day
you know back with like Arctic Silver and then
became something that thermal paste manufacturers would market
you didn't need for their compound but then I guess it kind of became a thing again
so I don't know there's a lot of mixed
information about that and frankly don't take
this the wrong way but I simply don't care enough
we're at the point now where if you buy a high quality thermal compound
the difference of a
degree or two here or there is not particularly meaningful to me
so for me what I like about PTM is that I can use it in an
application like a laptop or wherever and I can
know that it's not going to like dry out or wear out in a
reasonable amount of time I have as I've gotten older
and gotten busier and gotten less patient
I have found that I care far more about stuff just
working and a little less about
getting one degree more out of something you know
alright I'm just plugging in so what is this what am I looking at here
it's for the voltage sense I guess it's a voltage sense yeah oh interesting
so it kind of what I guess prioritizes making
sure that you don't get any v-drup on the to the gpn
I can show you what the website says I don't really understand
alright so yeah we plug that little purple one in directly to the power supply
and then that is spliced into
these two pins right here
gp cp voltage sensing mode so you can set it to either CPU
or GPU first
even during demanding games alright
maybe we haven't we haven't looked at this in the lab or anything so I don't
actually know for sure if it does anything or if it matters but
I can tell you it probably doesn't hurt anything so here we go
and Linus are we giving these systems to all of the editors I do not know
what the plan is for these systems that is a good question for infra
hey Dan are we building systems like this for all the editors
this is like the tester one oh this is a test system
yeah right because I guess if switching to
AMD doesn't actually even address the stability issues then there would be no reason to do it
understood that makes perfect sense
I expect it to be better than what we have now I built a very similar system for myself
and it's been rock solid we've been running AMD on the WAN and this computer
knock on wood but it's okay ah that's the WAN is a very different
application than this though we don't even use Premiere
I guess we'll see we'll see we'll see guys maybe oh maybe what we should
do is let's commit now to do a like a Floatplane follow
up just like we did with the hard line tubing thing
so we can do a follow up and we can let you guys know what we settled on or maybe what we'll do
is if we do settle on these we could do another stream where we build like half a
dozen machines and we we build a bunch of them on camera like we've done in the past
that maybe ill-advisable oh really
we shouldn't build computers on stream anymore are you saying that I didn't build them good last time
I thought the ones that we were using last time were all built blindfolded
that's a rumor that I heard no I think
I think what they're thinking of was the time that I built alongside
someone else so the ones other than I did make one
error on one of mine but other than that the ones I built were fine but the ones that we
had built by the randoms I think had a lot of problems I think that was the problem
yeah so but I could build them all
I could supervise we could build them together
speaking of making mistakes I several times
have noted oh yeah I haven't plugged in my front connectors yet and then
like oh I should do that now and then not done it
so I'm gonna do that before we put the GPU in real quick here
Dan do you have a merch message for me yes absolutely
don't get more blood on it
with the possible advent of steam OS around the corner is it true that AMD
GPUs are preferable for Linux these days or am I out of date or
misinformed my understanding is that NVIDIA has made
some progress on being more friendly for Linux
however
valve specifically supports
AMD to a greater degree than they do NVIDIA
so what is going on here does this only
have a power switch oh so it
does okay cool well that makes plugging this in a relatively
simple affair okay cool that's there
so because valve only builds in native support for AMD cards
they strongly recommend if you go look at the requirements on
their site for the steam OS image they strongly recommend that if you want to
run it on a desktop you configure that desktop to be as similar
to a steam deck as possible for the best
compatibility and stability experience
and I would recommend whatever valve recommends when it comes to running
their operating system because yes it's under the hood
just Arch Linux but it also isn't arch is highly
customizable and can be
very temperamental if not configured expertly
which is exactly what we are counting on valve to do that's what makes
it steam OS is all the work that they've put into
building out features and support and
making sure that it all works together seamlessly
alright this can go and I think we're ready to talk about our GPU
this is the last big
ASUS featured piece it is their RTX 5080
ROG Astral and
5080s look like they might be where we end up for our
editing stations regardless of whether we stick with an AMD platform
or go crawling back to Intel
there's a couple of things that I wanted to kind of run through first of all
this is a two generation upgrade for us if you look back at both
of our previous iterations there that's the 2021 edition with threadripper
that's over on the right and then that's the upgrade that we did behind
the scenes to Intel 13th gen over on the left there both
of them are featuring 3090s so we're going all the way
to Ampere to Blackwell skipping over Ada Lovelace or Ada
I think they ended up calling it so that's going to
give us not only additional performance but with these 50 series
oh my goodness this thing is
huge
there we go
with the 50 series that's going to give us their brand new media engine
which I am personally extremely excited for
do we have any notes about that in here? No but it can do 422
HBBC encoding and decoding
so much higher quality encoding is the main thing that I care about
and that's going to come down to software support whether we can utilize it
at all but if we're building new stations today
especially with the way that performance
40 series isn't really any cheaper then this seems
like the sweet spot for us with that said that I'll kind of realize
on getting these things for something resembling MSRP which
has not been a thing yet but that's okay we can be patient
anyway this has an overclocked mode up to 2790MHz engine clock
16 gigs of GDDR7 memory we don't really do any
AI stuff on our editing workstations so we don't really need the extra VRAM of their
top tier 1590 and ASUS claims that their quad fan
design boosts their flow and pressure by up to 20% they've also got their
patented vapor chamber with milled heat spreader for lower GPU
temperatures and their phase change GPU thermal pad along with
powerful 50 amp MOSFETs to help enhance performance, stability
and higher overclocking potential we won't be overclocking any of our workstations
or anything like that but I have heard through the grapevine
that these 5080s are absolutely monster overclockers
they also have a protective PCB coating that can guard against
moisture apparently so if you work in a like obviously don't
like throw it in the pool or whatever but if you work in an extremely humid
environment that can be a legitimate concern it can also help with dust and
extreme temperatures apparently and whoop I just
mushed my cable oh boy what that crap
look at this bloody thing it makes even a 3090
look kind of like comical you know like that's
two 3090s back there because that we were using that for some kind of
AI something or other that was that's the one from the color booth I think
look at this thing it's one card
anyway their GPU tweak 3 softwares included for
performance tweaking advanced thermal controls and system monitoring let's go ahead and get this plugged in
David are we ready to run this thing I think we are all right Dan do you want to hit me
with a couple merge messages while we get this all kind of get a monitor on the desk
and get this all set up absolutely all right good stuff
Linus you and your team are super awesome sauce loved all the LMG channels
since the day I found them thank you excited for my bag pen
and precision screwdriver that's not a question
but that was just super nice oh that is super nice as a micron
I love seeing the crucial storage Linus how do you go about deciding
how to hire engineers for Labs and CW how did you
know what qualifications you needed that is an excellent question
one that would probably be best met handled by
the people who do hiring for us these days truthfully speaking
I am not really involved in the hiring process anymore
I can tell you that we don't necessarily you know require
someone to have their PNG so their like official engineering
certification in fact I don't
think anyone on the CW team has technically
completed it even though the reason for it is
not necessarily because they're like not good enough or whatever
like one of them I'm gonna I'm gonna mangle the details
on this but it's something along these lines but one of them
basically was on the brink of doing it but then their mentor
or like their proctor or whatever I don't
remember what the term is for it but their mentor person died
and then for them to do it after that
would require them to like redo
something and they were just like well I'm working already
like forget it
so just because they don't necessarily
have the credentials doesn't mean that they don't have the skills
I will say that we definitely care a lot
about hiring for attitude and for willingness to
learn because knowledge can be taught but
a natural curiosity and a willingness to learn new things can't
I think like a great example of that is actually walking around
over there like David started here as a camera guy
slash editor found that he really didn't enjoy the editing part of it
transition to camera guy
editing is awful even though
even though frankly his camera skills when he started
were a little rough around the edges sometimes but that was when he started
he got way better at it he has a great attitude and now
he's gone from first he started on the writing team as a junior writer
now he's a full writer and has just taken
that passion and that willingness to learn
and made this place go from like a McJob doing something he hated
editing to I think he's having a lot more fun these days
I think so yeah so I don't know so that's
what's really important is prioritizing attitude and willingness
to learn because like yeah you could I think you could be stuck in a
dead-end position at a job and you could go oh my company is not doing
enough to provide career advancement or change opportunities
for me or you can you know just
get in there and contribute and learn
and find new things to do I don't know
I personally have been having a lot of fun working on David's projects
which to me is always a strong indicator that
we're having fun creating them overall because I tell the team
this like all the time this is on our like laws of
making good videos have fun because the audience's
bullshit detector is like finely tuned and if you're faking it
if you're pretending that you're having fun they pick up on that immediately
and they're not having fun and then no one's having fun and why are we even here
right and it's like yeah we could be here just to get raw
dry information like from our 5080 review
we found that the Davidchi Puget Bench results
were about 25% better than our old systems
with the 3090 and we found that our
Premiere Puget Bench results were about 22% better
compared to our old 3090
really useful valuable information but if we don't make it fun
then we're not making it accessible to as many people so that's really
important to us oh another thing I'm supposed to do while David finishes
that off is I'm supposed to change into
our featured shirt for today
this right here is our sport button up shirt because
we are serious business people now we're no longer
our early 20s you know creating a tech channel
and you know whatever now we're expected to kind of look somewhat
decent and this is a great way to do it I think
oh I'm sorry I'm probably mangling the audio I think this is part of our 9-5 lineup
I actually can't remember but basically it looks
like a professional button up shirt see
looks all professional but it's like super comfy
so it's like really stretchy see that it's like crazy
stretchy it's also nice and breathable
and is like wicking and stuff so you can
be a sweaty boy and be doing real work in this thing and still
be reasonably comfortable so yeah there you go lttstore.com
uh David do you need any help now that I am
doing all the stuff I'm supposed to oh okay there should be some grabbing goes in
there's two as well right usually I have one set maybe
I don't know if there's a dongle for it nope the dongle for this mice is missing
I can't even really get mad at people about that
because that is anyone about it
do you have enough grab and go no for the whole class
wait oh really yeah there might be some over here
okay well hey here's a little bit of inside baseball for you guys
we are supposed to have grab and go
keyboards, mice, power supplies, microphones
uh wait what is he talking about there's total
uh David there's totally grab and go keyboards
here what's that there's so many grab and go keyboards here
there's no mice though yeah there's mice
I don't like those oh you don't like
these mice I just uh I knew that there was a couple
that had been moved okay
alright that makes way more sense then
so funny
I very regularly get called
well he's got two keyboards too I very regularly get called sort of like out of
touch because I have enough money that realistically
I can afford any keyboard I want and any GPU I want and all of that
but the biggest divas we have here
are not me like I regularly have to bring Ploof back down to earth
in terms of what normal people expect from a monitor and what
normal people are willing to spend on a monitor and stuff like that
and like I am willing to use not all
not any mouse but like almost any mouse on set but you'll have
people like David that are just like oh I was being silly these are my stuff were you
oh alright okay nevermind
still I think you I think you care a fair bit about your stuff I do
I mean if you've seen his garage you know
you know buddy's a gamer no yeah no yeah sure
sure we're missing one Ethan do we really only have one cable
um no there's a blue one right there you can just plug
that in anywhere on the switch and then we're good to go uh Dan you want to hit me with a merge message
oh in case you guys are wondering what the heck we're setting up uh this is a drag race
between the new machine and the less
new machine uh let's see oh let's see
if she fires up I do
and oh no guys I did it
I whammyed us I put the side panels on
there is there is no chance
that this just fires up on the first try I don't know it's got
aces components in it it might be perfect well no it doesn't matter
the four sticks of RAM might it doesn't matter when you close the side panel
there is literally no chance
no chance that it will fire up the first time without issue editors are cursed
do you want a merge message while we wait for it to fail yeah sure I'm checking
by my first LTT product I really hope the quality matches the
expectations also question in the scribe driver negative reviews
I heard some people complaining about the clicking sound is it
still an issue still an issue clicking sound on the scribe driver
I don't think I have a scribe driver on me does anybody have a scribe driver around
I don't have one mine is it my desk there's one on
uh that's not gonna help us much it's kind of far
away from you in 20 minutes do I have a
where's the little I thought the scribe driver was supposed to click
yeah no it definitely is supposed to you know make a satisfying
noise let me see if I can just steal one from someone's desk I'll be back
David will host for now
the uh does anyone have a scribe driver the configuration is very challenging so the memory
very long time it's gonna take a while to try anyway
yeah um but this capacity is very very high
when I was testing it before we got 128 gigs working yeah we did not
succeed at getting 256 well I've done um I've done streams with the Linus before
and he's freaking out because he thinks the computer is broken and it's just taking a long time
to train for the first time so just give it extra extra time
yeah even when we I did it with the or the person doing it did it with
one stick it took three four minutes so let's uh
I'm here to entertain
business team will almost certainly have one I sure hope so
uh it looks like I've got Windows on the other one so that's working okay fantastic
that is our old system um it's funny
we were originally gonna do the thumbnail where we put the two computers side by side but they're gonna look
so similar it's the same case same cooler so just the gp would be
different and then a thumbnail uh that would really be
unimpressive you know that's not what we go for we go for
uh blowing you away you know what I'm saying
oh found one listen I click so it's like it's a bolt action pen
so there's not really a click when you slide it into place
but there's a bit of a snap
from the spring when you rock it back so
yep that's that's how it's supposed to work uh
who's destiny I take this from well we'll take it out later
in the meantime try to time to probably shoot this pc should we let it memory train longer do you think
I think it should memory train for longer you want to let it keep memory training is that what it's doing is that what
code 15 is it's a memory thing yeah oh boy
so that's the thing right AMD platforms can take
a minute to memory train and the more you have and the more
ridiculous your configuration the longer you can expect to wait
Jesus code 15 for people that don't know when he says a minute
he means that metaphorically and it could be like 20 minutes it's like the
it's a concerning amount of time and then it's fine yeah
Q code 15 okay yes it's definitely
definitely memory related if the memory
worked fine on another board it was probably okay all right well
yeah one hit me with another merge message sure yeah I've got a few here
um let's see hey Linus Dan and David
as what what did he say I said yo
oh I thought Linus was freaking out about the computer
as someone who finds himself screaming at Windows at work regularly
I'm curious what do you all do when things aren't going your way do research take a break
cry
yeah first get really frustrated then I mean the next thing
is like a Google search unless I you know have already encountered it
before a lot of the time when I encounter a tech issue it's I've seen something like it
at some point in the past so I will have like at least a starting point
but I mean for example right now you know my system just like randomly closes
Chrome every once in a while has that happened in the script review with you no oh yeah it just happens
sometimes just Chrome just like shuts down it just shuts down
um also occasionally I'll come into the office and it doesn't
wake up from sleep anymore it has some serious issues and I think they're
related to probably the IMC on my CPU
because that's something I've learned over the years is if something is completely
inexplicable then it's the power supply or RAM
if nothing makes sense or it's
intermittent power supply or RAM
already done a fresh Windows install because it could also definitely be Windows
research go find a guide
I mean we have we have the you know
whatever wonder of the world that is YouTube available to us
you can do just about anything there until they pull the video down about how to
de-google your life I'm a big believer in stepping away for 10 minutes
and then just hoping it fixes itself and coming back and sometimes it does
oh dude and and if it doesn't then it can also
fix your mind the number of times that I've been stumped on like a word scapes
puzzle for like 10 minutes and then just put it away and come back to it the next day
and solved it like instantly it's wild what a what a fresh
perspective will do for you oh yeah when you're like facing a boss in a video game and you can't
be like this is impossible and then you go away and first try it when you come back
my son is seven
getting really curious about circuits and computers and how they work cool
any ideas for how to get him engaged or excited
my best idea now is rebuilding an old beater off of craigslist
I mean it depends how interested they are in like like actual
circuits and stuff versus just building computers
but there was this this kit that we picked up a while back
that was pretty cool is less electronics and more
electricity let me see if I can find the one
snap circuits is that the one
oh yes here's your CAPTCHA
just to go to amazon.ca really yeah snap circuits
it's pretty cool so it comes with a book and it comes
with like a bunch of different stuff like there's a fan and there's a light and there's
little resistor boards and stuff like that
and it basically has like a project book that it comes with
and you use these snapping pieces to build a whole
bunch of different projects so they'll learn about DC electricity
and switches and the different functions of all the
different little modules pretty cool my son played around
with it a fair bit actually when he was younger and then got bored of it
as kids are apt to do but yeah definitely seems pretty cool are we going to call that
a bit for memory training? I think so I think we should go to 2.6
yeah so we ran into this when we were preparing for this build
we did not actually manage to get all four sticks running so
your mileage may vary on that but apparently a Seuss and Kingston
are working on getting 256 gigs of RAM working
on these cu dims in bypass mode as it is
even getting just 128 gigs working at the speed
that we were able to get it working at is pretty cool so I think we got
5600 or 5200? We actually with the 128 we're getting above
6000. Really? They claim 256 at 5600. Okay got it
so let's go ahead and shut this bad boy down
your mileage may vary though
I mean compared to the old system
of 120 gigs which was set at 4000 megatransfers per second
even 5600 would be a huge upgrade
although in editing the capacity is more important than the speed
certainly for after effects it's like 100% just everything's
done to RAM. Oh boy
I didn't like that sound. Okay
she's in there. I'm going to need to get her out of there. Oh there we go
that'll work. There's one of the sticks
on the front stick. Alright. Yeah high
capacity memory compatibility on AMD is a big challenge. Do we need a sag bracket for that card?
Does it come with one? No I don't think so
She's heavy. She's heavy. She's saggy
DIY something beautiful. She's saggy. Nah she's okay
it's not going to break it. Is it a second one? No
no no no that'll be okay. Yeah that's right you need two. She's alright.
That is not a reason to buy multiple
precision screwdriver sets. I think we should put that on the sales page
where it says an excellent sag bracket for your stupidly large GPU.
Buy a three pack. Okay we're still stuck
on 15 but this time it could just be training. I wonder
if that other time it was, I wonder if it was training stuff.
I told you. Did we try leaving it for like half an hour?
We didn't have time. We were in such a rush this morning. Oh because Jake has told me
that he has seen it in the past with these AMD systems where he will literally
give up and like walk away and come back and memory training
is complete. I told you it's a concerning length of time.
So your mileage may vary. Hopefully this will
train and be good in a reasonable amount of time but in the meantime Dan will kill some time with
another merge message. Sure. Hi I'm planning on building a new
PC and I was looking to use it for gaming slash productivity
slash streaming. I was looking at getting the Ryzen 99D950X
or should I wait for the X3D or go with the 9950X?
If gaming is your primary consideration
then it's hard not to justify the
extra upcharge for the X3D versus the non X3D variant.
But if realistically it's like a family computer
slash like sort of workstation, you do a bunch of other stuff on it
it's...
I don't know that I would bother waiting. Like if you want a new computer then
get a new computer. There's always always something around the corner
and what we have found is that particularly if you're gaming at higher resolutions
like even 1440p
if you have a modern CPU it's not going to be your bottleneck anyway.
So it kind of is what it is.
And the thing is you're buying into AM5 which AMD has still committed
to supporting until I think 2027. So you will have
future upgrade options available to you. So you could always
maybe throw an X3D in later once they come down in price and you just kind of
flip your 9950 or whatever the case may be.
This is still not to...
4 plus minutes for one stick. So it takes...
Why don't you tell us about the old system that we're going to be upgrading from?
Sure, I could do that. So this is the
old Intel based one. So we've got a
1300K. This also has 128 gigs of memory
but running at much lower speeds because we're populating all 4 memory slots.
This particular system has dual 3090s because I believe
it was used for some AI inferencing stuff
in addition to being used as an editing station in one of the isolated
booths. Same SSD, same 1TB crucial
P5. We're using these pro-art motherboards not because they make any
sense whatsoever at the price but because I think ASUS gave us
like a sweetheart of a deal on them and I wouldn't say no to that.
There's certainly nothing wrong with them. We're using CSONIC Prime power supplies
good power supply but so is the ASUS. As long as you're
using a good power supply I don't think that's going to have any kind of impact on performance
or stability. CSONIC doesn't have a magnetic OLED though. Yeah, that's true.
CSONIC does not have that. Way to go CSONIC. Get with the times.
Alright Dan, hit me.
Sure, sure, sure.
Hey Linus, do you think the computer industry will outlast the games industry?
I got a game design degree and we'll see how that's going
so I'm going to law school. We're eating on some LSAT results.
Everything is cyclical in both
tech and gaming and those two cycles
in those two industries do contribute to each other.
They've both seen a
major pullback. The tech industry one I kind of understand
because things were reaching a point of somewhat
ridiculousness for how hard the big tech giants were
bidding for any employee, like literally anyone fresh out of
school was just getting bombarded with job offers for a little while there
to the point where it just kind of didn't
seem to be sustainable forever. So I understand
where the pullback is coming from there. I wish they weren't pulling back so hard
because the impact on people who have spent
years of their lives educating themselves to work in the
tech industry or in some cases spent years of their lives working
at these companies are just being summarily
let go or being put
in a position where they feel like they're being pushed to quit
and that sucks. The games industry is one that I don't really get
as much like yeah there was a big COVID boom and some
studios overhired and ambitious projects were begun
that maybe weren't going to pan out and so I can see a little bit of that happening but when you
have some of these companies and David falls the games industry
a little bit closer than I do but when you have some of these companies
announcing a big layoff and then literally talking record profits
like a week later it doesn't really track for me. I don't really
understand it. I think there's multiple layers to the issue of how it happens
I think that you know the chase for profits is one of it. I think part
of it is we've seen the collapse of new live service games like new
live service games rarely succeed and that for a little bit that was what the big investments
were like Concord's the big one 200 plus million dollars
just down the drain. Gone. How long was it live? Like a
week? Two weeks? Something like that. Ten days or something. Yeah and then they just
funded everyone and walked away from it. They might bring it back but who knows.
But then you got to look at it and you got to go like okay so
fine. The investments that we've made in live service games we're just not going to be able
to topple Fortnite. We're not going to be able to
we're not going to be able to draw that audience away from it
but then from software Larry and
have shown that there's a massive appetite for not
live service games like so do we have to lay all these people off?
Oh hey. That's a different code. Dude I wonder if we just
didn't wait long enough. I told you. I don't know if I want to try
on stream but I do want to say that it is very possible
given how long this was hanging on 15 that this was just memory
training before and it was 256 gigs of flipping memory and
needed a hot minute to finish training. Okay well that's pretty cool
anyway the point is like I feel like
people could have been reassigned. I got something. I got something?
On mine. It was on 96 for a bit. Yeah no I've got
bias. Is this displaying?
It's not getting signal. This is not plugged in. Oh it must have come unplugged.
So there's your problem. Oh wait it is plugged in I lied.
Yeah this one. Okay. It was working before
Oh it's not the monitor seems to be the one that's having the issue. Oh no
Let's give it a sec. I've got it on my side.
Sick. We're close guys. We're close. Dan are you
troubleshooting something or do you want to hit me with a... No I'm just waiting for this monitor.
Hey let's go. Alright. You'll want to go into BIOS and
make sure. I sure will. Oh we got to go test that AI assistant too.
Oh that's right. Okay how does that work?
Do you know anything about it? Nope. Alright tools maybe?
Let me look it up.
Well it's not in there. Q dashboard? Nope.
Oh is that a walk diagram? That's cool. Oh wow.
Not quite. It does give you the device ID though. That can be really useful if you're
doing like pastor or whatever. I think you can look it up in Linux anyway but
I don't know what's there. Okay full
HD setup. Whoa you can have full HD in the setup screen?
At any rate we already
appear to have our memory profile
enabled because it's already running at 5600. No we don't.
Interesting. AEMP.
Huh. We are not going to try to go
all the way to 6800. Try it. No. That's not going to happen.
We're going to go to, what was it? 5600 you guys got
working or 6000? He got 64 working. 64?
Yeah he was above 6000. Okay sure.
No we could do 64. I think he said he got 68 but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Okay you know what? Fine we're going to try it. I will be very surprised
and also we might be, it's not always better to just
go for pure frequency especially on AMD these days but what the heck.
Let's give it a shot. Let's see if it happens. It won't have to fully retrain
it should just reset and oh boy
it stuck on 15 again. Cool Dan quick stall for time go go go. Yeah it's going to have to
retrain. I'm considering upgrading my RAM from
5600 megatransfers C36 to 6000 megatransfers
C30. Just can't decide if the performance is
worth it or if I should just keep waiting until the latencies get even tighter.
I don't know how much tighter we're going to see
DDR5 latencies and you're going to be limited not just by
the memory that's available but also by the integrated memory controller on your CPU
which understandably tends to be kind of
targeting the memory that is available during the
development of said CPU. As for whether you're
going to notice a meaningful performance difference, you might see a little bit
from that. Not enough to justify the full price of that
new memory kit but if you sell your old memory kit get a decent price for
it and you're only paying like another you know 30 bucks 40 bucks or something like that
on top of what you were able to sell for and I'd say that that could be a worthwhile
upgrade. So the AI thing is a desktop thing. Oh it's a desktop thing.
I thought it was in the BIOS based on the marketing but it is a desktop thing.
Right we'll get to that when we get to it then. We'll have to install it. Alright Dan hit
me. Linus, what DIY projects are you working on
apart from Lambo Bike? Thoughts on more DIY or maker content?
I love the VPN video and would love to get more videos on
Pine As or HexOS builds set up start to
finish. Given I cannot finish that project
do I need another project right now? I will
say that I am learning about casting. I've always
been kind of interested in it. I did a metal art and jewelry class back in high school
and I had a ton of fun. I made like a cool chain out of
just like silver wire and I what else did I make? I made a small
cast pendant and I just I thought it was such
a blast. So I'm reading this book called Practical
Guide to Casting. I'm about halfway through and I just finished the part where
it talks about sling casting. So to
sling the metal into the investment that the
mold is in there's multiple ways to do it. So you can use
like a centrifugal thing where you like wind up a spring and then you let go and it
spins and it flings the molten metal into the mold.
You can do ones that are just like gravity
gravity driven. So what you do is you just have like
or sorry not gravity driven vacuum
driven. So you have like a vacuum that you pull around the mold
and it like sucks the metal into it. And I just got
to the one about sling casting where basically
what you do is you take your mold and then the gate
at the top you make it narrow enough that the surface tension of the
molten metal will keep it from going down
so you can melt it all. You melt it all and then you put it in a sling
and you basically like whip it around like this to drive the
metal down through the gate into the mold and I'm like
what? Cause that's pretty cool. So I
want to learn about casting.
ZOS015 says please finish the SV650S
it's my old bike and I'd love to see it decked out. Yeah I know. And we want
the beard back. I want the beard back too and I will do
it as soon as I finish painting that stupid, stupid bike. I gave a
progress update on Wancher a little while ago. I haven't touched it since then but
most of the parts are white now which is the layer before
pink which is the layer before effect layer which is the layer before
clear coat. So yeah
oh it's booted. Yeah. No way. Is this at
6800 or did it reset? Yeah.
Okay well that's pretty cool.
We'll see how stable it is. Yeah. We are asking a lot. Yeah.
Oh 1080p right? Yeah for captured. Yep that makes sense.
And we need to, Dan's going to come over and connect this to the server so we can end up with a project.
I have to do my job. Alright I don't have the merge message panel
open so I'm going to hang out with Flowplain Chat for now.
I am going to beat GTA 6. My bike will
be done before GTA 6 launches. I promise you that. It's coming out this fall.
What? It's coming out this fall. Shut up. Yeah. Get on it.
They just told it to investors
that it's still coming 2025. Okay.
It's really tough because like it's actually really hard to paint with the tennis
elbow. The gun and the hose
and then the hopper and all the different angles and stuff.
So I don't know if I've really talked about this much but I developed tennis elbow
after that tournament I played late last year and we're now
in February of this year and it is still causing a significant
amount of pain. I haven't basically been able to play badminton
since Smash Champs fully opened. I did play a little bit
last night. I hit one smash last night and I'm not
suffering today. Oh that's good. So I'm wondering if the physio's helping
actually gave me this thing which like
looks like some kind of medieval torture device or something
and it honestly feels like one. Harder these.
They're not that hard but what you do is you
you sit like this because it's what I learned
is that it's not actually the inflammation that is
the problem of the tendon. That's not good
these little micro tears are just a natural part of
stretching out ligaments and building muscle and all that. So the
micro tears are not what caused the inflammation in the pain. It's the micro tears
combined with an overuse like a repetitive
strain kind of overuse of the muscles on either side that are
pulling it apart while you have all the micro tears
and causing the inflammation and the swelling and the pain.
So what you have to do when you use this thing is you
what's this weird thing called? Roll flex
not two L's. Roll flex not roll flex.
Roll flex. So you kind of like
you kind of clamp it with your other ARM and you kind of like
get into the spot and you're like oh it hurts so much.
But like the good hurts? No. No it hurts. Okay. For you it probably hurts
because you're actually injured. And you're not supposed to do these the site of the injury
so what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to like really work out the
the tension that's pulling
the injury site apart above and below it.
You're supposed to like move the ARM around like especially down here
and between this and just sort of getting a little bit better at
identifying the right spots to do the massage. It's been
helping a lot. I also did some physio. They did like ultrasound. And then they did
the weird one where they hook up the electrodes to it.
They did it a little bit too high one time.
And like my hand got stuck like this. And I was like
come on. Anyway.
Oh hey!
Oh okay.
Let's see how it goes. Oh hi Mark. Hi how are you? Never better.
Really? I think we might have to play which computer? That one.
This is the new station. So we wanted to bring one of our editors out and the script
says do something. Okay.
We won't drag race the premiere between the two. Oh sure.
So basically we want to get your, oh you can turn that on. We want to get your impression of if this
would be, if we took your workstation away tomorrow and we gave you this
would you be happy, sad or somewhere in between? Probably happy.
Okay yeah.
You're picking up the vibe now that I was talking about before.
I'm lost. Oh where am I supposed to go? This PC.
This PC? There we go. Ah there we go.
Don't open the HR full day. We are live.
Is he mic'd? He's mic'd. Oh brilliant. Wonderful.
So what are your main complaints with the current stations?
I'm going to switch spots with you. Okay Andy I'm going to kind of stack up on Mark here.
The current ones are fine. It was
actually the thread rippers that were the problem. The current ones the issue
is there's not enough VRAM on the 3090s
for like
resolve. I feel like we need to upgrade the VRAM.
Uh oh. No one told me that.
They didn't tell me you needed more VRAM so these are 5080s. They have less VRAM.
These are 5080s. Yeah this is a 5080. Less VRAM than the
maybe it's just better VRAM I don't know. Okay well let's see. Let's see
good lord. Well okay the good thing is
we don't use a resolve very often. It's usually Premiere. Yeah but still.
So I was told Quick Sync was causing stability issues though. Quick Sync?
Or just the Intel ones had stability issues. So lots of editors that have been having
daily problems. Oh yeah yeah okay yeah yeah I can see that might be the issue.
I know that Threadripper was causing a lot more issues though that
I don't even know what they were. Okay. Or what the what was causing it but
so basically there's ghosts
living in computers and if you anger the ghosts
they will punish you and so Mark apparently doesn't
use his Intel machine but we have gotten a lot of complaints from the other. I mean our editing
team is almost a dozen people now I think. So even if
you know 10% of systems have an issue
that's one to two of our editors is going to have a problem with it right.
During scrapyard wars. Oh yeah yeah. During scrapyard wars
we would have late night editing sessions and it would delay us like an hour
or two because it would just crash consistently and we'd have to reload just waiting
and it was very frustrating. That was on the Intel systems. That was on the Intel ones.
Hold on give me one second I'm just going to close that.
Are you just like looking for your favorite project or? Yeah I'm looking for the one I'm working on right now.
Oh okay cool. Gaming at 8k. On the 5090. Yeah.
On the amount of VRAM you thought you were going to get in your new station.
I was hopeful. I heard we were switching to 50 series. I just thought it was going to be
equivalent 50 series. I was more interested
in the better media encoder. I didn't realize you guys needed
a ton of VRAM for Resolve. Are you going to click OK? Yeah.
A lot of it I think is just Resolve optimization issues.
Okay. Linus would you just
open your shirt a bit? You're rubbing quite heavily.
Sorry about that. Is that better? One more. One more.
Seriously? I'm going full like
Italian. Yeah there you go. Thank you. I don't know.
I don't edit. Okay so Mark you have to come this way
and then Andy goes over there and then no
you still use the computer. No no but with your right hand. This is what happens
when we let not on camera people. Oh like this. Just like that.
And then I go right here. He's an on camera people now. It's good.
And then when you talk to me you just kind of turn your head this way but don't bother looking at me it's fine. Got it.
It'll look natural to them.
Offline all. Okay cool.
Alright here we are.
Well you definitely offline all. Yeah well no it's pending.
Multiple languages dude. Now are we
at 10 gig Dan? No. Did we check? No because we have to install
the driver specifically for that card. We did.
Okay well it wouldn't. It wouldn't resolve.
Maybe that's because I had it. It was in the wrong port on the switch. Okay one sec.
So throw it back in there. Okay.
See if that connects. Sorry Mark that's probably going to impact your
ability to load that footage.
What's happening? There you go. Well I unplugged your network.
See if it's gotten an IP at least. Oh there it is.
Oh yeah sorry. No it's not good. Yeah.
I would strongly recommend against doing that while you're loading a project.
That's not great. Not recommended. Oh did I?
No no it's okay. Did I ruin everything? Yeah.
Our editors are used to just the infrastructure collapsing
in the middle of their editing. Used to happen all the time remember when the UPS caught fire?
Yeah I do remember when the UPS caught fire.
Yes I didn't mean that as a dig at our infer team. Our infer team does a great job these days
but we didn't used to have an infer team and Mark is from the old times.
You're over five years now. Yeah. Yeah. So he
remembers when the infer team was me and my spare time.
And Jake. Yeah and Jake. Sometimes. Sometimes.
When you can find them. Okay.
So if I told you this is your station now what would you think?
Right now I'd be fine. This is not bad. The responsiveness
is actually better. Hold on where I have.
Okay so we're going full res here boys. Yeah. Full res
here boys.
Oh hey. That's offline.
Oh more guards haven't loaded.
Motion graphics. Yeah motion graphic templates yeah.
How's it feel? Ah pretty good. Pretty good. There's no
nothing that stands out. Let's see.
We'll obviously do a more
detailed analysis at some point before we just
roll these out to everybody but that looks really good. Like is that
on par with what you have now or is that like really good? Yeah.
Yeah this is
solid. I would like to, I know we're not Benchmarked
but can I do an expert? Yeah I mean you could do whatever you want
in this country. Actually no maybe just a render. Wait
what? That's control right?
Oh it doesn't have my keyboard shortcuts. Oh that makes sense.
One sec. One sec. No
no no no. Okay here we go. So what are you expecting
for? Nothing. Okay cool. I'm not
entirely sure what I should be expecting but it seems to be
rendering on par with what we have at least. Okay.
Yeah it's pretty good. Okay so if this could solve some of these
stability issues that some of the other folks are having would you be
are we really seeing 90% usage of that RTX 5080?
Oh yeah.
There is a GPU optimized now. She's hungry. Yeah
well yeah. She's a hungry boy. That's what I was saying. Oh my god
we're using, we're capping out our memory. Yeah. Just about.
Oh crap. Oh crap.
I thought you knew this Linus. No I didn't know this. I thought the 5080s were going to be
okay for the editing stations. Isn't there something higher than the 5090 though?
No well no. No there isn't.
Not that cost less than like $10. No there isn't.
No didn't they call those Wattros before? No I don't know what you're talking about. The
5100s. Oh man. Oh this
blows. How many desks are in here?
13. Dang it. Dang it. Lucky 13.
This is because you put the panels on. Even at
even at MSRP that's another
$1,000 US dollars. And ain't nobody getting any 5090s
at MSRP. How much did you pay $13,000? Yeah because one for
every system. Are they even $100 bucks? Well they're
two grand. Two grand. Nobody has an M. But
$5080s a thousand dollars. Yeah so I'm talking the additional cost
over the 5080. I have an idea. Look what you did Mark.
Yo little jerk. What if you get two 5080s
and then you got like, what is it called SLI? Yeah we don't have SLI anymore.
NV Link? No NV Link anymore. Not on the
consumer cards. So you need a monster case to fit two of those in there.
Yeah no kidding. Oh this
blows. Dang it.
I mean it's workable. It's not going to be the
end of the world. Yeah I don't want workable. I want good.
You know? Yeah Apple is really. Oh yeah he's an Apple fan.
We actually have a video coming out very soon.
Linus switches to Mac for a month. And I believe it's probably going
to be coming out this weekend. The shopping segment. And Mark
was sort of our resident advisor to make sure that we
picked the right Mac. So I ended up, dude I'm so upset.
So I ended up with a MacBook Air with an M3. And I think I went
with 16 gigs of RAM which I think will be enough for me for mobile.
So I want the Mac mini. The M4 Mac mini. Just this week
Apple announced that they're doing first party refurb
M4 Mac minis. I would have bought a refurb. Yeah yeah yeah
M4 Mac minis? Yeah. Already? Already.
What are you refurbing? Well I don't know exactly. But that
concerns me because like how many Mac minis M4 Mac minis
have been refurbished? No I think they're just
selling a butt ton of these things. And I think that
anytime you sell a butt ton of something, even if 1% of people don't like it
if you sell a million of them that's 100,000 returns.
So I think it's just a natural part of doing
a high volume business. So with that in mind, like dude I'd have bought one of
those no problem. I'd have totally saved a few bucks. So part of the premise
is that I wasn't allowed to just shop for a Mac just by
grabbing one out of our warehouse. I had to actually buy it after I settled on it.
So I ended up cheaping out a little bit more than I would if I just grabbed whatever
I wanted. So would you be interested in moving to Mac minis or
Mac studios? Yeah I wouldn't be opposed to it.
I mean cost analysis here.
Like Mac mini M4 versus
like readily available. Okay tell me this, is there anything
that you do that would benefit from having like a fatter
because this is a way more powerful system than the Mac mini in any configuration.
Is there anything that you do that would benefit from just more raw horsepower?
Not now that we're off the red cameras.
Okay but it's not like we don't still have them. If we pulled them out of
mothballs for a project would you wish you had more power?
I think, okay I hate to say this because
you can never have too much power when you're editing.
So it depends on what we're doing. So
complex effects, layers and layers of animations
it can really, or keying
keying is another big one. Right. So whether that's for TechLinked or
if in one we bring tech we key back. Yeah.
If we do it much there's not many LTTs that call for it. Right.
And we have the Ultimat now too that can handle that. So that does the keying
in the box at the point of recording which is so cool.
That was a smart acquisition by Blackmagic. That thing is so cool.
So honestly I think this would be enough.
This would be enough. Yeah.
Oh sorry I was talking Mac mini versus this. Would you be happy to have the extra power
of this? Oh yeah. I wasn't even talking about 5090. So do you think I could get away with 5080?
Here's the problem. If we switch to Mac minis it would be a very
contentious subject. We are as editors we are split
pretty much 5050 Apple and PC users at home.
And I know the PC users at home would be a lot more upset
working at Linus Tech Tips with Mac minis.
That's true. The optics aren't the greatest. Okay that's fair
that's fair. Alright well anyway thank you Mark for coming
and sort of talking us through this. It looks like there's no obvious
game breaking issues at least here out of the gate. Other than that
our VRAM usage is higher than I anticipated.
It's come down a little bit but come down now doesn't help me. I need it
to be like if that's what we needed at the beginning of the render then that's what
we need. So we may be seriously considering 5090s
rather than 5080s. So alright thank you very much.
Now since we're here I don't know should we fire up a game on it?
Alright cool thanks Mark.
Alright I'm just going to cancel that.
It's very responsive. I know that's something that used to be a big issue on lesser
systems in particular with Premiere is like when you cancel something you take out hot
minute to decide that it's ready to actually cancel. Man that is
good. Lord is timeline performance ever smooth on a brand new machine
these days. Sorry this is my first time touching it.
That's that full res.
4k please.
Wow there's like no leg.
That's pretty cool. Alright so was the idea that we would both
game side by side on the system? Sure why not. In that case Dan do you want
to just put some merge messages since we're just kind of killing time hanging out with these people right now
anyway? Yeah sure I think that sounds like a good idea. Sure. Hello Linus and Dan
with a huge gap between the 5080 and 5090 should I wait for the 5080ti
with more VRAM? I'm coming from a 3080 10G
and the need for more VRAM is
scaring me that 16 gigabytes is not enough.
I don't know if a 5080 class card
with more VRAM is going to be in your future.
That's the concern and you can really see
how NVIDIA has strategically chosen 16 gigs.
It happens to be the amount of unified
memory in both current generation consoles.
Happens to be. So we're still at the point in the
PS5 and Xbox would you like me to help you with that Andy?
We're still at the point in the series and the PS5's
life cycle where game development is probably
not focused on a next generation PlayStation 6
or Xbox whatever the crap they end up calling it. So
NVIDIA knowing this knows that no game developer in their right mind
is going to be targeting more than 16 gigs of memory.
So there is no need for them to
get in more. Yes if you wanted to crank texture resolution
or if you wanted to run advanced features there could be a benefit to additional
VRAM and we've seen that even today
but there's no need and they're way more interested
in pursuing things like AI compression techniques to bring down
VRAM usage rather than putting more VRAM on the card because
an AI compression technique cost them development time
once more VRAM on the card cost them VRAM
every single time they build a card so it's in their best interest to see if they can just
develop their way around it. So with that in mind
even if we do get a mid life cycle refresh
unless it happens to coincide with like a new console
generation which probably what two years, three years maybe? I think at least three years
it feels like the current gen is like just getting its wings
NVIDIA has no motivation to put
more than 16 gigs of RAM on. The 32 gig 5090 is obviously
a budget AI play and an enthusiast play and is priced
as such. The 5080 is the gaming flagship
and they have deemed it thusly that 16 gigs is enough
now AMD might come and be disruptive I think the word on the street is that the
oh man what is this stupid thing called
what's it called? 9070? What's the new AMD card called?
9070XT. There's some rumors that it could be equipped with up to 32 gigs of RAM
There's going to be a card that's in that class with 32
not the base one. Got it. Is that confirmed or is that still
got it? Oh frame view. Oh yes
but that doesn't help you if you're
you want an NVIDIA card basically
why am I reloading in the middle of the thing?
Oh goodness I see. Is that 40 frames?
No no no. Man we are
actually surprisingly close. All things
considered we are at the same settings I mean we're at 1080p anyway right?
We're far past the point of dimension returns
Yep. Dude we were thinking of doing
like a 1000 FPS gaming PC you know getting like a 9800x3D
come on over here come on get over here
Is it possible on modern competitive games
to get 1000? Well that was the question we were going to try and answer
with like a tuned 9800x3D plus an RTX 5090
could we actually run at 1000 FPS?
It might be that you're helped out because I don't have any AI because it's a training session
I have to do this before I can play or there's very few AI
Oh there's no AI
This just isn't actually running that fast. I don't still have Premiere open in the background or anything do I? I don't
I don't know I was expecting more than 500
FPS. Yeah is there something going on?
Nope I just checked. Maybe I messed up the settings
let's just double check. Sure yeah we can do that. Okay so video
could just be CPU bottlenecked man. Yeah maybe
just check if you're actually 1080p maybe it's 4k somehow
I don't think so yeah 1080p. Advanced video. It should be medium except everything
like let's just do it again so hit medium and then
turn off FSR at the bottom
Wow that's default hey? I know it's crazy
Man even in a competitive game
upscaling techniques is really changing and I'm not sure
if I'm here for it. I'm gonna have to get on board because it's just a happening
I don't hate it. I sit far enough away from my displays
that I don't really mind it like I play I'm playing the Witcher 3 right now
and I have FSR on. Interesting
I mean Ploof meanwhile is like militantly against it except
in our recent videos looking at 4k and 8k gaming on the
5090 there was one or two
games that he was like I would turn it on
Really? No frame gen for him at least not yet but
DLSS yeah there was a couple games where he at least thought about
it and one where he confirmed yeah I would turn it on. Which is
if you know that guy it's a big deal
It's a big shift for him
Well now we're just playing games and it's pretty on par. I think you might have a slight edge
actually. Yeah I mean I should. Like right now I'm a little bit ahead but like
Given I'm running it. Yeah you are actually. I mean when we go to the same spot on the map
maybe that has a bigger difference than I realized. It's a non X3D. Yeah I don't know
Do you want to come over here? Yep. Is a non X3D chip really gonna take
the AMD advantage away that much? It's possible
Oh my goodness I sucked
Oh my goodness oh wow I just got
That was embarrassing. He came all the way here just for nothing
That was embarrassing
I'm about to run out of time
Alright don't worry I got this. I got my P-shooter
Without AI we're pretty dang close
Oh gosh darn it
I'm heading back toward you
Are you just playing deathmatch?
That is so annoying
I understand why they do it because it can be really frustrating for more
experienced players to have people drop in the match and just like think they're going to learn on the fly
Like you know have the bomb and not know how to plant that stuff
Yeah I just needed to kill that guy in case. Oh shoot okay I'm coming I'm coming
Oh please don't make me with the whole round
This is embarrassing. Dan do you want to hand us with a merge message? Yeah sure
As someone who is taking my first serious crack at switching from Windows to Linux
Have you ever considered a follow up on your covert era Linux
Challenge and if not why? Yes we are going to do a
follow up to the Linux challenge once SteamOS goes gold
I'm so ready for it
I'm going to die
Oh my goodness I'm coming back
Dan hit me again
I forgot for you here
Will there be an HDD revisit for 2025 games maybe not just for 2024 hard drives but early
SATA or IDE. My upgrade cycle for storage is when it dies
So my first non OS SSD was quite recent
Oh interesting
Man I don't think so looking at how
kind of dead hard drives are in the gaming space
I just don't think too many people I mean obviously you're asking for it
but I don't think too many people are at this point
Stand on that barrel on the left and then look right at this pot
Okay look at the pot
Dude you are outperforming me
By a significant margin I guess non X3D
May not be the way to go for CS2
Graphically demanding
What else did you have in mind for today? We can do some Alan weight 2 or we can do some cyberpunk
Yeah let's fire up cyberpunk
That seems like a good place to go okay Dan hit me
That's all you got oh sick okay cool we'll do cyberpunk and then we'll wrap it up
Let's see
Actually I don't even know how many people are watching
Look at the YouTube dashboard today
And it is not
Oh that's the wrong stream that's still the 24-7 stream
Oh interesting
But the event still does in our event calendar
The way that you handle YouTube streams is
It's good it's a lot better than it was before but it's sort of unintuitive
Because you can either do it like Twitch where you just go live
Or you can have scheduled events
Your menu is outperforming mine
I mean sure
Yeah this wasn't specced out as a gaming system
But it's pretty darn good
And I'm actually going to lose some of my advantage of having a much more powerful GPU
Because of our HDMI switcher over here
Dan is there a reason that this thing couldn't do 4K? I thought this thing does 4K It does do 4K like we could try it
Oh okay I don't feel like
Throwing a wrench in the gears tell you what Let's do our comparison at 1080p
Then we'll try and run it 4K And if it doesn't work then it doesn't work
I think we do yeah ray tracing overdrive is still going to be challenging enough with no DLSS
Oh dude ray tracing overdrive will be super challenging
Ultra no DLSS Ultra no DLSS?
No frame gen And then just everything as it was
Window border list or?
Yes I believe so Oh can we go full screen?
I know it doesn't matter anymore Did you put low latency?
Oh I didn't turn on reflex I don't think On with boost enabled?
Sure Which marker just play?
Oh yeah I want to play We'll just find a kind of similarish area
We'll drive around or whatever Coffee Loki says PC not good enough
I don't think they're actually referring to these
Spend more money I'm going to ride my 3090 until I die
Brandon the IT guy in Floatplane chat asks Is there a Linux distro for video editing?
Not that I'm aware of And it's less to do with the distro or lack thereof
And more to do with the tools or lack thereof
Black magic is doing a good job of supporting it But to my knowledge none of the other major players in the space
Have shown much of an appetite for Linux
Are you going to try and get to the exact same spot as me? Because I don't really think that's necessary
Yeah I'm already outperforming you by a pretty significant margin
You're at like 70 FPS and I'm at like 90
Oh I dropped down a little bit But you're also dropped into the 60s now
I feel like where you are is harder to run than where I am
But I don't know the map well enough to be able to get around
The 3090 to the 4090 was a big jump in performance
So if we were looking at this 5080 versus a 4090
Then it wouldn't be that impressive
But looking at it compared to the 3090
You can go from the workstation slash enthusiast card of that generation
To the gamer card of this generation and expect a performance uplift honestly
Not enough though If I had a 3090
I would just run this at 75 FPS rather than going for the extra 15 FPS
I don't think it's an upgrade It's a big enough boost that you'll really have a noticeable experience
With that said if I could get a 5080 for MSRP
Knowing that I can sell my 3090 for a lot
I could probably almost do it as a cross trade
So if my priority was just gaming
It's true you don't need that extra VRAM
I'd rather have the raw performance than the VRAM at that point
Likewise for gaming For just gaming Yeah I agree
And let some AI tinkerer have that 3090 and use that VRAM for what they're doing
Yep So that's a totally valid option
I mean both David and I are very PC of theseus people
So we're always kind of thinking like Oh what can I sell from my rig
And then acquire and kind of optimize as we go
But a lot of people are not like that So I totally understand too if you have a 3090
And you're just looking at your machine going is it still good enough The answer is yep
If you don't feel like making any changes But I've found that kind of staying on top of things a little bit
Has been the best value way to get the most out of my system
Yeah there's kind of a weird transition period where the old stuff is still really high value
Especially now Yeah exactly GPU transitions are so weird
Not at all like they used to be
Okay I'm ready to try 4K
What do you think Dan is this gonna work Yeah it should
Oh I can't even select it Oh Are you gonna have your desktop set to 4K
Or do you
I don't know I didn't think so Usually you can
Yeah I can't change it Oh maybe the Yep
Is there a mode selection on this thing that's like
I don't even know if it is capable of doing It is that's definitely it can do 8K
Oh dude this will do 4K 120Hz Yeah it's like a
Well this is like a high end matrix Oh yeah I'll fiddle with it
Shut up No I don't think we need to fiddle with it It's okay
Maybe pro edge I think what we're gonna do is hey hey Thank you guys very much for tuning into the stream today
There's definitely some things we like about this configuration
But as you heard from Mark Our editing team is very divided
On the subject of PC versus Mac
And if we stick with PC There's a chance that we're gonna end up going 5090
Maybe we'll do an update on Floatplane
We'll get you guys a look at the final system Otherwise maybe we'll do a stream
And we'll build a bunch of the final systems And we'll hand deliver them to our editors
In the editing den on the other side of the wall See you later guys