1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,360
Oh, hi there. I didn't see you.

2
00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,600
Hi, I saw you. Well, I don't see you.

3
00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,640
I think I've done this before. I think I've done this at literal

4
00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,680
bit in the intro.

5
00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,720
Oh no, your video cannot be monetized

6
00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,440
due to copyright claims. Oh boy.

7
00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,080
Yeah, I assume it's because of the screen capture?

8
00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,680
The video of the TV. Yeah.

9
00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,080
They're trying different versions where they cut it down.

10
00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,480
Yeah, okay. I'm sure it'll be fine.

11
00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:43,400
We'll figure it out. I'm pretty sure that reviewing a video format is

12
00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,440
pretty defensible, fair use-wise.

13
00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,480
No one is watching that film like that. So we'll

14
00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:54,080
I'll give you guys a little bit of inside baseball.

15
00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,240
If you just re-upload a slightly changed video

16
00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,240
enough times to YouTube, eventually copyright ID doesn't notice it.

17
00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,160
So yeah, and realistically what paramount?

18
00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,760
Is it paramount for that one? I can't remember. Realistically the rights holder

19
00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,760
for that movie that we like have on screen for a little bit to do image

20
00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,120
quality comparisons is not gonna like come after us manually for that.

21
00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,240
Warner Bros. Warner Bros. Yeah.

22
00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,440
They're Bros. I heard. They also warned us.

23
00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,440
Warner, hardly even knew her.

24
00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,440
Are you mic'd? I think so.

25
00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,440
Okay, I'm just not sure if they can only hear half of this conversation.

26
00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,480
Good evening Linus. Where are you at? Evening.

27
00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,520
You must be in Euroland. How's it going over there?

28
00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,560
Hopefully better than it's going here.

29
00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,960
Is New Zealand still like... I heard that because all the billionaires

30
00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,960
are like running away to New Zealand, it kind of sucks there now too.

31
00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,960
Because New Zealand was like supposed to be the best, you know, of no strategic

32
00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,160
importance whatsoever, but also like of a pretty western standard of living.

33
00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,200
How are you guys doing? I don't know what time it is.

34
00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,240
Is anyone awake in New Zealand right now?

35
00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,240
New Zealand time right now. Oh yeah, someone could be tuning in over their breakfast

36
00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,320
in New Zealand. New Zealand is not Europe though.

37
00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,320
No, I was talking about

38
00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,320
places where things might be going better than here.

39
00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,320
That's all.

40
00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,320
Edgigan says

41
00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,320
Euroland is comparatively I eat.

42
00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,320
Alright, cool. Nice. Cool.

43
00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,400
Alright.

44
00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,400
Yeah, turbulence in New Zealand.

45
00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,400
It'd be kind of cool to be able to see

46
00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,400
a high-five guy says Germany not doing so hot right now. Oh yeah, the elections

47
00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,440
coming up. Yeah, yeah, Germany looks like things are...

48
00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,440
I don't follow German politics like at all.

49
00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,440
So take this for what it is, but

50
00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,520
what I have gleaned is it looks like some coalition basically

51
00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,520
broke down. The coalition of never cooperate with

52
00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,520
the far-right guys apparently just kind of broke down recently over

53
00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,560
some issue. So that's

54
00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,560
something. Yep.

55
00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,560
Mattie says the UK is just as terrible as it was 10 years ago.

56
00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,560
Dude, I don't understand. I was over there for vacation recently

57
00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,560
and I'm like obviously I was in touristy areas like Edinburgh or whatever.

58
00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,560
But I don't understand how people live over there at all.

59
00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,560
It's so expensive. Yeah, our cost of

60
00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,560
living here, especially in Vancouver, Canada is

61
00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,560
stupid. But like

62
00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,560
is stupider a word? Because it feels like

63
00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,560
that's kind of where things are going.

64
00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,560
Yes, C. Jackson, Canada's election is not too far away,

65
00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,560
but the tide has turned a little bit. Thankfully,

66
00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,560
Trudeau had the wisdom to pull out of the race early enough

67
00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,560
for someone else to conceivably take up the mantle.

68
00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,560
Because like there's a lot of folks like me

69
00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,560
that regardless

70
00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,560
of our politics and our personal beliefs, we're simply not

71
00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,560
going to be willing to vote for Trudeau again at this point, regardless of

72
00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,560
which platform we prefer, which I'm honestly not going to get into

73
00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,560
right now. But Trudeau was uniquely

74
00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,560
poorly positioned to win an election.

75
00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,560
Well, polls were, like conservators were doubling. Yeah.

76
00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,560
Linus Town still on the books. Linus Town has never been on the books.

77
00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,560
Linus Town was always a joke. No, that's why I'm here.

78
00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,560
No, no, no Linus Town. No taxes.

79
00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,560
Culp, culp, culp. Potato Culp.

80
00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,560
Someone sent me a town that was for sale pretty recently, and I was just like,

81
00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,560
no. We can just recreate Schitt's Creek.

82
00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,560
Oh man.

83
00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,560
Can we please get Linus Town? Dude,

84
00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,560
buy a cruise trip, you know, buy our cruise ship. Okay, I could afford

85
00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,560
a town before I could afford a cruise ship. You have any idea what cruise ships

86
00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,560
cost?

87
00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,560
I can't even wrap my brain around how that industry even functions,

88
00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,560
because like, yeah, people pay a lot to be on a cruise ship,

89
00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,560
but like, and I've never taken a cruise to be clear, so this is all just my perception

90
00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,560
as an outsider, but it seems like there's a lot of freaking staff

91
00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,560
on these ships. There's a lot of amenities that just make no

92
00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,560
sense, like ice rinks and things like that.

93
00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,560
They burn a ton of fuel, it's like,

94
00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,560
sure, good luck everybody.

95
00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,560
Apparently,

96
00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,560
it's about $300,000 a day for fuel.

97
00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,560
$300,000 a day. This is for marine insight, so I don't know how.

98
00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,560
In fuel. 130 for low grade fuel, but if it uses marine gas oil,

99
00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,560
which is cleaner fuel, it'll cost a ship $300,000 a day.

100
00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,560
So these things, well, they'll go for a week, and they'll blow

101
00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,560
a million dollars on fuel. That's wild.

102
00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,560
Like, what are we even

103
00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,560
doing here? It's like $50, $80 expensive, sure,

104
00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,560
but like, burning a thousand of these in a week

105
00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,560
just to like, go somewhere. If I burned $50, $80s at

106
00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,560
that rate, you guys would be up in arms. You'd be so mad. You'd be like,

107
00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,560
Linus, you gotta stop burning $50, $80s. You'd sit me down, you'd sit me right down.

108
00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,560
You'd get on my level for that eye contact,

109
00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,560
you'd go, Linus, it's not okay.

110
00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,560
I don't know, stop.

111
00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,560
No, no, it doesn't matter what your reason was.

112
00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,560
Sometimes the reason's not important.

113
00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,560
Think of the impact. Think of how many gamers

114
00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,560
can't have those GPs. Do you just sit me down?

115
00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,560
Alright, should we do this

116
00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,560
thing? Linus for NDP leader.

117
00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,560
Man, are you calling me a loser? You calling me

118
00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,560
a lifelong loser because the NDP are never going to win at a federal level.

119
00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,560
I'm sorry. And again, I'm not even getting

120
00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,560
into my politics. I don't feel like it right now, but like,

121
00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,560
I don't know, they're just like, it's almost comical

122
00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,560
how they just can't, they just can't, they can't win.

123
00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,560
Oh, Jacob Framework

124
00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,560
just solved it for me. Fun fact,

125
00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,560
most of the cruise lines make their money from the casinos on board.

126
00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,560
That makes so much more sense now. Cause I was looking at the ticket

127
00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,560
prices. Of course it's, the answer is always

128
00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:38,560
gambling. Why does anyone still care about a

129
00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:42,560
20 year old video game? Gambling.

130
00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:46,560
Why does anybody go to that godforsaken city in the middle of the freaking desert?

131
00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:50,560
Gambling. Why does anyone give two craps about

132
00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:54,560
cryptocurrency that has no real world utility?

133
00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:58,560
The answer is always gambling.

134
00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:02,560
Okay. It's always gambling.

135
00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:06,560
Man, how do we get into the gambling

136
00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:10,560
industry? Why do we have to be morally opposed to it? Don't we have merch mystery

137
00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:14,560
boxes? We do have the occasional

138
00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:18,560
merch item where there's a slightly different like thing on the shirt. You still get this shirt though.

139
00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:22,560
It's not really the same. Yeah, we explicitly

140
00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:26,560
disable gambling through even AdSense. We don't do

141
00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:30,560
gambling-ness, but man, would it ever be

142
00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:34,560
lucrative. The amount of money that sports betting

143
00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:38,560
apps spend on advertising tells me all I need to know about how much money

144
00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:42,560
is being wasted on sports betting. Yeah, cause it's

145
00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:46,560
literally is a zero sum game. Every dollar

146
00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:50,560
that a betting app spends is a dollar that they collected

147
00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:54,560
from some Joe Chump who

148
00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:58,560
guessed wrong which, you know, Superman could put the rubber

149
00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:02,560
thing in the goalpost or whatever. You know, like it's

150
00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:10,560
in certain mean with the guy mining for diamonds. Okay, in all seriousness

151
00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:14,560
I have a new retirement dream. So my old retirement dream

152
00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:18,560
was to drive a school bus just like Pete. Pete was my

153
00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:22,560
school bus driver when I was in high school and what was really

154
00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:26,560
special about Pete was that he didn't need to drive the bus.

155
00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:30,560
He was retired with a full pension and

156
00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:34,560
just kind of did it to get out of the house and

157
00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:38,560
have some fun being a complete jackass to children.

158
00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:42,560
And he would, so the way he would like

159
00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:46,560
yell at us to, like if we sat, you know, if we man-spreaded a little

160
00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:50,560
bit in the edge seat, you know, and we had like a toe in the aisle, he

161
00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:54,560
would stop the bus. Like he wasn't the kind of bus driver to be like, don't make me stop this bus

162
00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:58,560
and then never do it. He would stop the bus. He would come in the back. He'd get all his

163
00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:02,560
head, face all red and his like veins popped and he would be like, keep the

164
00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:06,560
aisle clear. And I was like, whoa. And so

165
00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:10,560
I figured out eventually that Pete didn't have to be there at all. He just

166
00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:14,560
did it for the sheer joy of it. Now, I wouldn't necessarily be a Pete,

167
00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:18,560
but I had this dream of kind of driving a school bus as my

168
00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:22,560
sort of get out of the house in the morning in the afternoon. You work

169
00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:26,560
like, you know, three hours a day, three and a half hours a day or whatever.

170
00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:30,560
You pick up the odd shift when you do like a, you know, a class ski trip or whatever

171
00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:34,560
else, just to kind of, kind of keep busy, but not really, you know, not really

172
00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:38,560
think too much. So, so, so Pete was my inspiration so that I could,

173
00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:42,560
he was like what not to do, but also seemed like a pretty good retirement

174
00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:46,560
plan. I have a new retirement plan, speaking of mining diamonds.

175
00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:50,560
I was on Facebook marketplace of all places. Dude, my Facebook marketplace is

176
00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:54,560
frickin' wild. Frickin' wild. I train the algorithm to just give me weird stuff

177
00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:58,560
and someone was selling like gold claims

178
00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:02,560
and I was like, what is a gold claim? I don't know that. Okay, so

179
00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:06,560
a gold claim is the mining and

180
00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:10,560
like extraction rights for any gold within

181
00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:14,560
an area of land and typically

182
00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:18,560
they're quite large, like measured on the order of like hectares. They're

183
00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:22,560
enormous. Basically, you're buying the right to go

184
00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:26,560
like faffing about in the wilderness looking for

185
00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:30,560
looking for gold.

186
00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:34,560
And I don't know man, I came across this YouTube channel where they

187
00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:38,560
bought a claim and they, you don't own the land. So, you just own

188
00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:42,560
temporarily the rights to mine the land

189
00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:46,560
to prospect the land. And so, they're like DIYing

190
00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,560
this like, you know, breaking down the ore and frickin'

191
00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:54,560
like extracting the gold and they got these. I don't know.

192
00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:58,560
It sounds cool. It actually sounds like a blast.

193
00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:02,560
And if I was at a stage in my life where I didn't need to be successful

194
00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:06,560
or I could just like, you know, go out and like put on my prospecting

195
00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:10,560
hat and get my pickaxe or whatever, like obviously that's like a caricature

196
00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:14,560
of what, you know, a miner might look like. But like, I don't know, dude.

197
00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:18,560
Oh, sorry. No, these guys bought, they bought a mine. So, it was like

198
00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:22,560
an actual, it was an actual mine, but it was like not being used anymore because I guess

199
00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:26,560
it wasn't yielding enough to be like commercially viable, but as

200
00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:30,560
like a small group of individuals, they were able to make, I don't know, it sounds like a blast, dude.

201
00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:34,560
Obviously, I wouldn't be able to do that if I'm like, you know, well into

202
00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:38,560
my 40s or whatever. So, it would have to be relatively soon. I guess

203
00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:42,560
this is how you guys find out I'm retiring to become a gold miner.

204
00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:46,560
I think we make a video about it. Yeah, but I don't know, dude, I don't know.

205
00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:50,560
I think it'd be cool. Retirement

206
00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:54,560
dream for me is living in Linestown. No, there is

207
00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:58,560
no Linestown, damn it. I've told you people. See, I thought your retirement plan was going

208
00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:02,560
to be like buying a bus, making it like a camper bus, and then driving to Mexico

209
00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:06,560
or something. I don't know why your retirement plan includes work. Oh, no,

210
00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:10,560
yeah, no, it has to be, it has to be work. I don't think I could handle it.

211
00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:14,560
I don't think I could just like, I don't think I could just be idle.

212
00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:18,560
I think I would like turn to jelly. I think I'd be unhappy.

213
00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:22,560
I'd have to have something to do. And like, if that thing to do involved

214
00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,560
like, you know, finding, you know, gold flakes

215
00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,560
and then like learning how to, learning how to, you know,

216
00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,560
make the aqua regia and, you know, get the purity really

217
00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,560
high and like, like I'd be so excited to make that first, you know,

218
00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,560
little, you know, two ounce gold bar or something like that.

219
00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,560
You know, like, I think that'd be super cool. I spent

220
00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,560
four million dollars to make ten thousand dollars. Yeah, right.

221
00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,560
Like, if I actually just like completely

222
00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,560
didn't care and I could just like

223
00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,560
spend money without actually like working, you know, doing streams like this or whatever

224
00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,560
and I could just do things that didn't make any sense,

225
00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,560
I think becoming a gold prospector would be pretty high up on my list.

226
00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,560
I think for a limited amount of time. Oh yeah, yeah, I think for like a year.

227
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,560
I think for like a year, that would be really fun. Canadian winter would roll around

228
00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,560
and like, even in BC, like it's like kind of

229
00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,560
wet, miserable, like, yeah, and I'd be like, ah, that's probably enough of this, but

230
00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,560
still, that'd be cool. I owned a gold site

231
00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,560
fuel and COVID made me go bankrupt. I don't know what a gold site fuel is,

232
00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,560
but I'm sorry to hear that.

233
00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,560
I guess we should probably start the video at some

234
00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,560
point. Hey, start the stream. Should we do that? Are you guys down?

235
00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,560
Okay. All right, Dan's ready.

236
00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,560
Oh, that is that blue. Okay. Yeah, neat.

237
00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,560
Cool.

238
00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,560
Yeah, my dad's technically retired, but now works as a

239
00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,560
high school teacher just for the fun of it. That does not sound fun.

240
00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,560
Yeah, working as a teacher doesn't sound that fun. If you've only had teenagers in the

241
00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,560
last 10 years, you know it's not fun. Yeah.

242
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,560
Speedrun going bankrupt as many times as possible

243
00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,560
in retirement. I wouldn't actually want to go bankrupt,

244
00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,560
but I do think it would be fun to like find out what businesses are viable

245
00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,560
if you like go hard at them for a year or something

246
00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,560
like that. I think that'd be super cool.

247
00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,560
I have not called the boat guy yet. Dan has given me his contact info, but I have

248
00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,560
not made the call yet.

249
00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,560
Yeah, not yet.

250
00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,560
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm going to give a whole new meaning to Whale Land.

251
00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,560
I will call the guy. I will call the guy. Geez, I will call the guy.

252
00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,560
Relax, Wansho audience.

253
00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,560
Oh, live monetization settings. Is this new?

254
00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,560
These settings will apply to all new streams created in YouTube studio.

255
00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,560
Oh.

256
00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,560
Okay.

257
00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,560
I'm just going to screenshot this and send it to Colton because I don't know

258
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,560
what our, I don't know what our processor policy is for this. I don't know

259
00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,560
why it's prompting me. I just, I opened up the dashboard.

260
00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,560
Sorry, excuse me. I opened up the dashboard and it just like prompted me to change

261
00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,560
our monetization settings and I don't, I'm not in charge of that stuff anymore.

262
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,560
To be clear,

263
00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,560
I do weigh in on it. Like if they try to increase

264
00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,560
things too much, I'm all like, hey, we probably shouldn't do that. We ended up cutting

265
00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,560
a bunch of the sponsor stuff from that

266
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,560
stream, not stream. That React video we did that had frankly

267
00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,560
too many inserts. I agree with you guys.

268
00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,560
I don't know. These are supposed to be

269
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,560
but this prompted me when I opened

270
00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,560
the thing. Okay. I will press cancel.

271
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,560
Okay. So I'm just going to press cancel and then he

272
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,560
will set it to something later. Discard changes. Nice.

273
00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,560
Nice. Okay.

274
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,560
Wow. They're really pushing this. Like I'm here in

275
00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,560
the dashboard and they're all like creators adopting live

276
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,560
automated midrolls on average saw over 20% uplift in in stream

277
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,560
ad revenue per hour. Wow. A 20% uplift on in stream ad

278
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,560
revenue per hour. It's not a major

279
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,560
revenue source for us. So it's like whatever per

280
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,560
hour. But for someone who like their bread and butter is

281
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,560
streaming for six, eight hours a day or whatever, that's a huge difference.

282
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,560
Because maybe instead of six, eight hours, it could be six hours.

283
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,560
Which is pretty nice, man. I don't know how those folks do it streaming

284
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,560
all day like that. It's freaking wild. I'm not

285
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,560
built for that. In fact, I've actually I've found as I'm maybe as I'm getting older

286
00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,560
or whatever. As time is passing

287
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,560
these long streams, like especially the ones that go for like three or four

288
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,560
hours, they like wipe me. Like it was the

289
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,560
next day, I think two streams ago that I was like I was talking to Alex and I was like

290
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,560
man, like my brain is just fry sizzled today.

291
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,560
I can't think. I can't focus on anything. He's like, oh yeah,

292
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,560
it's probably for me being live for like five hours. I was like

293
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,560
oh, that makes sense.

294
00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,560
Okay. Alright, we're real close. We're real close.

295
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,560
Okay.

296
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,560
We're just waiting for an answer on the momentization thing.

297
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,560
Okay, let's do this thing. We ready?

298
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,560
Or wait, sorry, did you say we're waiting for something? No, I was asking what we were waiting for.

299
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,560
Oh, we're not waiting for anything. We're waiting for me to be mentally prepared.

300
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,560
Okay, Andy, you good to go? Yep. You ready? Yep. Alright, let's do this thing.

301
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,560
I am

302
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,560
Maybe I'll start in front of the

303
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,560
Yeah, I'm going to start in front of the table. Is that cool? Does that work?

304
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,560
And then David, could I, after I see the thing, can I like just

305
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,560
hand this to you off camera and then we'll do it like that? Okay.

306
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,560
You're going to have to throw it at me.

307
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,560
Oh, right. Which direction do I throw?

308
00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,560
Continuity? What's that?

309
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,560
To my left, to my left. That's always easy to remember.

310
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,560
Okay, cool. Okay, so to my left. What's the thing I throw again?

311
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,560
It's the first part. Ah, yes. Oh, wow.

312
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,560
Okay. To me. Got it. That makes sense.

313
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,560
That's why I'm here.

314
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,560
That totally makes sense. I would not want to

315
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,560
actually throw that. Yeah, I don't want to actually throw that and damage it.

316
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,560
Oh, yeah.

317
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,560
Oh, yeah.

318
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,560
I'm pushing 40 pretty quick here, so it is what it is.

319
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,560
Alright, let's resume the selected, shall we?

320
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,560
Oh, wow, that's going really fast.

321
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,560
Oh, but the controls are working, so that's great. Okay. Resuming the

322
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,560
selected, now. No, no, I give it to you once it

323
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,560
goes.

324
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,560
No one likes watching a progress bar

325
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,560
all across their screen. And thanks to their dated workstations,

326
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,560
our poor editors have been watching a lot

327
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,560
of slow progress bars. The only reasonable thing to do then

328
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,560
is build them new ones, but the PC landscape has changed

329
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,560
a lot since 2021 when we made our

330
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,560
last big improvements to our editing stations. So, we are

331
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,560
teaming up with ASUS who sponsored this stream and sent over some

332
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,560
awesome parts to try, like the AMD Ryzen 7

333
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,560
9800X3D, which we are not going

334
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,560
to use.

335
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,560
Did you roll the thing? Yeah. Oh, when do I come back? You're back. Oh!

336
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,560
In fact, our CPU upgrade

337
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,560
might be a little controversial. We're going

338
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,560
with the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X. That's

339
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,560
right. Desktop CPUs, like

340
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,560
peasant consumer CPUs. But here's the thing,

341
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,560
even without the 3D vCache, which doesn't consistently boost

342
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,560
productivity performance, the gamers watching this are probably agreeing

343
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,560
with our choice going, heck yeah! AMD dominance!

344
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,560
But the content creators that are watching might know

345
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,560
that video editing performance is actually one of Intel's last

346
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,560
strongholds, thanks in part to QuickSync. Now,

347
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,560
QuickSync, yeah, let's stand over here. QuickSync is Intel's branding

348
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,560
for the dedicated hardware that accelerates video encoding and decoding

349
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,560
on their CPUs and their GPUs. And it really

350
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,560
does work, allowing Intel to outperform AMD in Adobe Premiere

351
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,560
timeline performance. And I actually encode it as well

352
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,560
in many cases. That is why we went with their Core i9

353
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,560
1300K in our last behind the scenes editing rig

354
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,560
upgrade. But here's the issue. We've heard a lot

355
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,560
of complaints from our editors about system stability. A lot.

356
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,560
And when it comes to getting work done, it doesn't matter how

357
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,560
smooth you can scrub your timeline if the system crashes on the daily.

358
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,560
So now that the Core Ultra launch has come and gone with the resounding

359
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,560
womp-womp, we thought maybe it's time for a

360
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,560
walk on the red side. Besides, the 9950X seems to have

361
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,560
solid performance with intraframe codecs, which we use.

362
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,560
And it's got a potential upgrade path thanks to AMD's long-term

363
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,560
commitment to the AM5 platform. Though it is

364
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,560
worth noting that we made a significant

365
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,560
investment in editing stations based on AMD promises of

366
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,560
long-term socket support back in the Threadripper 3000 days.

367
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,560
And we all know how that worked out, don't we?

368
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,560
Oh, we don't. Some of us don't. Bad. It worked out bad.

369
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,560
It sucked. AMD just abandoned the platform immediately

370
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,560
and was like, sorry, not sorry.

371
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,560
Anywho. The 9950X

372
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,560
has 16 Zen 5 cores. 24 threads.

373
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,560
32 threads. Sorry about that. A base clock of 4.3 GHz

374
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,560
and it turbos to up to 5.7 GHz. Other than the

375
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,560
X3D, which, again, are productivity benchmarks, don't seem to really

376
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,560
benefit from that much, it is the top of the flipping

377
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,560
line. Now, we could have gone with a workstation CPU still.

378
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,560
AMD does still have them, even though they abandoned that particular

379
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,560
platform on me. Way to go, AMD.

380
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,560
But here's the issue. AMD has kind of gutted

381
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,560
their Threadripper offerings, dramatically increasing pricing for their top

382
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,560
core-count models and lagging behind their desktop chips

383
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,560
in terms of core technology pretty much across the board.

384
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,560
You still can't get a Zen 5 Threadripper.

385
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,560
What the freaking heck? So if you care about single-threaded

386
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,560
performance, which some things, even in a productivity environment,

387
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,560
do, then a desktop chip becomes

388
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,560
the reasonable option. Not to mention that the mother

389
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,560
boards for the current Gen Threadripper pros cost about as much as a desktop

390
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,560
CPU and a desktop motherboard combined.

391
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,560
Though that won't be the case for the desktop board

392
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,560
that ASUS wanted to show off today. The ROG Crosshair X870e

393
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,560
Hero, a $700 monster

394
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,560
with absolutely everything. I'm talking 5GB

395
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,560
and 2.5GB Ethernet. Wi-Fi 7, 5M.2

396
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,560
Where the devil even are they all? Okay, 1, 2, and then

397
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,560
I assume there's 3 more under this plate right here.

398
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,560
Look at that, look at it go. It's got their AI

399
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,560
advisor. Everyone's hot on AI features, but this one may

400
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,560
actually be helpful for beginner builders and can highlight ASUS specific features for

401
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,560
veterans. We're going to have a look at it when we finish building. And it's also got

402
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,560
support for 4 dim slots with up to 256 gigs of RAM at

403
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,560
surprisingly high speeds or

404
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,560
up to 8200 megatrans per second on Ryzen 9000

405
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,560
series with not 4 dims. Their

406
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,560
NitroPath DRAM technology means that there are shorter gold finger

407
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,560
pins, which results in optimized single pathways that ensure faster data transfers between

408
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,560
your DRAM and CPU, as well as stronger slot retention force.

409
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,560
And if I said the CPU choice for this build

410
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,560
was going to be controversial, it is nothing compared to what we've got

411
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,560
for our RAM. ASUS, because of their

412
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,560
whole NitroPath optimization, Tom Foolery that they've got

413
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,560
going on here, worked with Kingston on support

414
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,560
for these specific modules. These are

415
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,560
161 US dollars each

416
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,560
for a total of 256 gigs of RAM in this thing.

417
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,560
Now, normally on Ryzen platforms, if you want to run all four

418
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,560
slots, especially at high capacities, you are looking at

419
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,560
pretty slow speeds, but they claim that with all

420
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,560
four of these running, you can hit up to, what was it, 5200?

421
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,560
5600. We will have to see

422
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,560
if that works, because the really mind blowing thing for me,

423
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,560
if you want to get the installation, is that these are CU dims.

424
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,560
Yes, my friends, CU dims. Those

425
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,560
special high capacity dims that

426
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,560
AMD doesn't really support other than in bypass mode,

427
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,560
which just completely ignores the benefit

428
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,560
of a CU dim, because there's like a CKD

429
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,560
thing on it, and AMD

430
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,560
just supports it in the sense that they just bypass it and don't

431
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,560
use it. So the idea behind these is that they run at super high speeds

432
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,560
on Intel, but then ASUS and Kingston

433
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,560
were like, oh yeah, we're going to use these dims

434
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,560
something, AMD, something. High speeds, very high capacity.

435
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,560
Sure. Let's see how it goes.

436
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Cool. I'm going to put that there.

437
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,560
And we're all going to hope for the best. Alright, now, it is

438
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,560
worth noting that not everything in our configurations is changing.

439
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,560
Our storage, oh, where is our storage? I was just starting to wonder

440
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,560
that, is it in the motherboard? Did we lose the storage? Yeah, it could be.

441
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,560
Anything's possible. Do we have tools? Yes, I do have tools.

442
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,560
There you are, back there. Where do you get that? Let me tell

443
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,560
you, lttstore.com, let's go precision screwdriver set.

444
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,560
These are, these are moving like hotcakes. Y'all are

445
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,560
loving these for the longer skinny parts of the shaft

446
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,560
so they get into recessed places a little bit more easily on things

447
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,560
like laptops and game consoles. The stronger

448
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,560
magnetism compared to some competitors in the market.

449
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,560
The nice smooth spinning top that

450
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,560
I saw a really funny post on the subreddit where someone was holding it up to

451
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,560
their cat who was like super suspicious of it and then eventually

452
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,560
goes after it and it's really funny. I can see

453
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,560
a cat not really liking that noise. Apparently the SSD was just left in here. It was just left in here.

454
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,560
Okay, perfect. Well, here we go.

455
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,560
Dang it, where are the, this is the, this is

456
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,560
an issue. Oh, I see. Well, why did I take off the one that, anyway, okay, well

457
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,560
there's four of our M.2 slots on this thing. This was totally

458
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,560
intentional so that I could show you guys where all the SSD

459
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560
slots are on this motherboard, this fine sample of the motherboard.

460
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,560
Anyway, parts that stayed the same. We've kept our

461
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,560
one terabyte Crucial P5 pluses. Wait, what?

462
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,560
Only one terabyte line is? Yes, and there's a very good reason

463
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,560
for that. We used to have some editors that would

464
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,560
you know, sneakily even upgrade their stations with

465
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,560
larger SSDs and what the temptation was

466
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,560
at that time was for them to dump footage onto their local

467
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,560
drives and then, oh man, I'm just making a quick fix

468
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,560
so like, I'll just throw it in the timeline, I'll export the video and then

469
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,560
it doesn't matter. But what happens when you do that is you don't have

470
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,560
all your stuff in one place and when you're sick the next day and someone needs to go

471
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,560
make another fix to that video, they go, what's this media off line?

472
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,560
Oh, they didn't copy it to the server. So we actually

473
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,560
go out of our way to have small storage drives in our editing

474
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,560
systems so that nobody is tempted to copy raw footage onto their local

475
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,560
drive and work on it. We all work off of our redundant and backed

476
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,560
up server. So there you go. Not

477
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,560
only do we save a buck, but this Gen 4 drive is reasonably

478
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,560
performant and has a DRAM cache and all it needs is to store the OS

479
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,560
and the software that we use. We also kept our case

480
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,560
hold on, let me just throw this back on. I actually, ooh, I'm liking this tooless mechanism

481
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,560
for this. Not bad. So it's got a little clip there, you pop that off

482
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,560
and then you got a little slide there. I mean, it feels very expensive

483
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,560
but I guess that's cause it is.

484
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,560
So we're still using the Phanteks Eclipse G500A. It's not the world's

485
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,560
most exciting case, certainly, but it's really easy to

486
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,560
work in and has decent build quality. We don't need our workstation to be exciting

487
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,560
anyway. It's a workstation, not an excitement station.

488
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,560
Oh, what are we doing for cooling? You know what? I think I want to put my

489
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,560
cooler on before we put this in here. So why don't we talk about that next.

490
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,560
We are still using the Noctua NHD 15.

491
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Again, it's not the world's most exciting choice, but it's

492
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,560
hard to argue with a great air cooler that offers good thermal performance

493
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,560
with low noise and this is a really key one for me.

494
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,560
Super easy installation because right now, as I build

495
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,560
this machine, it's not necessarily the only time anyone will have to work on this

496
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,560
system. Things go wrong, especially the motherboards

497
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,560
and those threadripper systems. Those went wrong a lot.

498
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,560
And so when it's someone's job to go in and fix

499
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,560
up these systems, it's nice when they're working with a retention mechanism that

500
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,560
is easy to use and not only that, but quick to apply.

501
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,560
This will take me a minute, so

502
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,560
I'll put my screwdriver. This will take me a minute to install though. So Dan,

503
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,560
do you want to hit me with a merge message? You don't have any merge messages?

504
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,560
Is the dashboard working or is it just because I didn't tell people that there are merge messages?

505
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,560
Oh, probably because you didn't tell people. I mean, I did get one.

506
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,560
Let's see. Thanks for the bag Linus. I will use it until it falls apart

507
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,560
or blows up. Huh. Well,

508
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,560
hopefully neither of those things will happen, but if

509
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,560
one of them does, I hope your bag falls apart.

510
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Can't wait for that to be clipped out of context anyway. If you guys want to interact with the stream,

511
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,560
the best way to do it is with a merge message. All you got to do is head over to

512
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,560
lttstore.com and if you add some high quality

513
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,560
merchandise to your cart and when, oh, does this one come

514
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,560
with the offset mount? No, this is an older one. Okay, we'll just use the standard

515
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,560
mount. And when you're in the cart, you will see a little

516
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,560
prompt, a little box to send us a merge message. That'll go

517
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,560
to producer Dan, who will either just push it up

518
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,560
to the bottom of the stream. So, you know, you can do like a, you know, hey mom or

519
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,560
happy anniversary or will you marry me or you know, whatever it is that you want to put down

520
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,560
there for the LTC fan in your life and or he will

521
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,560
respond to it himself or he will curate it and

522
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,560
I can respond to it later on in the stream.

523
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,560
Let's get this installed.

524
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,560
Oh, I could also bring up the chat. Oh, where the heck did I put my computer?

525
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,560
I do not remember. David, do you have my laptop?

526
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,560
Yeah, I put it on the table. One second. Sick. Yeah, Ken has.

527
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Thank you. Do you want it right here?

528
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,560
Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, here's good. Let me just make sure that it doesn't have

529
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,560
the panel with all of our stream keys open. It totally did. That would

530
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,560
have been extremely not funny. I mean

531
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,560
it would have been a little funny, but

532
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,560
Hopefully it's not like a social security number. You can change them. Only later. Well, no, you can

533
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,560
change them, but it would have been very challenging

534
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,560
to change them quick enough for it to not be a problem. Oh, fair.

535
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,560
Google signed me out.

536
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,560
I had the dashboard open earlier in the stream and it signed me out of my

537
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,560
account. It's so infuriating.

538
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,560
I swear it signs me out way more

539
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,560
than every 30 days. Like there's no way.

540
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,560
Okay.

541
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,560
I am going to successfully type my

542
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,560
password on the fourth

543
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,560
fifth try. Fifth try. There we go. We've got this.

544
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,560
All right. Motherboard prices need

545
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,560
to chill, says the tech tempest over in Floatplane chat. Yeah,

546
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,560
I agree with you 100%. Like on the one hand

547
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,560
there are components that have gone way up in price that I

548
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,560
kind of understand. Like

549
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,560
yes, NVIDIA owns absolutely some of the blame for

550
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,560
GPU prices being completely out of control, but they don't own

551
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,560
all of it. TSMC doesn't publish their price lists publicly

552
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,560
or anything like that, but the industry scuttle butt is that a wafer

553
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,560
is costing several times what it used to. So there have been

554
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,560
legitimate cost increases that have driven at least some of the

555
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,560
price ballooning that has gone on for GPUs. Clearly

556
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,560
not all of it, but at least some of it. Whereas like

557
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,560
motherboards? I don't know man.

558
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,560
Like coppers obviously up

559
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,560
10 or 20 years ago. I think that in general they're built

560
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,560
to a higher standard of quality than they used to be.

561
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,560
Like I bet you could build a pretty cheap motherboard with

562
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,560
little caps all over it and stuff these days still, but nobody wants to

563
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,560
do that because nobody wants them all to just explode a couple years later

564
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,560
while they're still under warranty.

565
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,560
I don't know man, it just feels like

566
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,560
and okay yeah, here's another example. It's like part of the cost of this board

567
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,560
is definitely these gigantic heat sinks

568
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,560
that are machined out of solid friggin' piece of aluminum. Have you priced

569
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,560
like a brick of aluminum lately? I have.

570
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,560
I don't remember the price, but I remember being surprised at the price. It's freakin'

571
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,560
expensive. Oh, I forgot what I was doing. I was supposed to be putting this cooler

572
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,560
on. Alright, let's put it on some thermal goop. Just so you know guys

573
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,560
if you buy a cooler these days from Noctua

574
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,560
it comes with a different version of the hold down hardware here

575
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,560
and basically it has two holes

576
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,560
in it and if you have a CPU that has the compute dies

577
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,560
down at the bottom which I believe is all of Ryzen 7000

578
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,560
and Ryzen 9000 then you can move the cooler down a little bit

579
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,560
that is clearance permitting on your motherboard and you can

580
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,560
position more of your cooler's

581
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,560
heat pipes directly over the hottest part of the

582
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,560
IHS which is the heat spreader that sits over top of those compute dies

583
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,560
Ouch! Oh! Shoot

584
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,560
I need a bandaid and I have to fill up the form

585
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,560
I cut myself. Yeah.

586
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,560
Dang it. Wow, that's really sharp. Okay, if ASUS

587
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,560
is watching, which I assume they are because they did kind of sponsor the video

588
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,560
this little piece right here wouldn't normally be a problem

589
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,560
but because of the sheer weight of the

590
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,560
power and cooler, the pressure

591
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,560
when my finger got stuck under it sliced through me

592
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,560
Oh man. Ah! You know what? She might not bleed

593
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,560
I might not have to fill up the form. Anyway, why don't we finally

594
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,560
put thermal compound on this? Dan, do you have any messages for me?

595
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,560
Yes, I have a couple here actually

596
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,560
they are starting to come in pretty intensely. Why don't you go ahead and hit me

597
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,560
Any chance of reviving the summer jacket even if it's not ocean friendly?

598
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,560
I would love something light for dog walks in the sun

599
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,560
The summer jacket. Oh, you mean the UV hoodie? Is that what they are talking about?

600
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,560
Maybe, I don't know. Oh, they said revive though

601
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,560
because the UV hoodie never actually got released. It was a product

602
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,560
that we made a couple of samples of and then

603
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,560
we found out that we couldn't achieve the level of UV

604
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,560
resistance that we wanted without resorting to nasty coatings

605
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,560
and there was actually

606
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,560
manufacturing issues with the fabric that we had that didn't require

607
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,560
the coatings. Dude, we did a production

608
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,560
run with the factory and they were the ones who told us

609
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,560
I really don't think you guys can sell this. That

610
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,560
never happens because apparently the sizing for a medium

611
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,560
could be anywhere from small to XL just because of how difficult that

612
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,560
fabric was to work with. So we are still working on a

613
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,560
sun like a UV blocking hoodie because I love

614
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,560
mine and Tatiana is

615
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,560
giving it her attention. I believe Bridget on the like

616
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,560
so she's on the material side and then I believe Bridget from the fashion

617
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,560
team is giving it some of her attention although it might actually be Lisa

618
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,560
we want to do it but it won't be until summer

619
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,560
2026 and that assumes that we managed to find

620
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,560
a material that is suitable. I am

621
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,560
no, I shouldn't say that.

622
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,560
I am a little more open to coatings

623
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,560
than I used to be. There is one garment

624
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,560
that I have tentatively greenlit like a coating

625
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,560
in order to achieve, I forget if it was stain resistance or

626
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,560
water repellency or UV resistance. I forget what it

627
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,560
was but it's some kind of treatment and I have tentatively greenlit

628
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,560
that one but the reason that I greenlit it is because

629
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,560
it was the kind of garment that would only be washed

630
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,560
ten times over a span of several years. Like I think

631
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,560
it might have been like a jacket or something like that where you're not

632
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,560
washing it every week as part of your cycle because

633
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,560
I read your guys' comments, I use the products, I know that you guys

634
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,560
are beating the absolute stuffing out of this stuff.

635
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,560
I see the posts on Reddit and stuff where people

636
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,560
show off their collection of LTT gear and I can tell a lot of it is

637
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,560
extremely well worn and I know you guys because I'm one

638
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,560
of you guys, I know you ain't separating your delicates

639
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,560
from your cotton stuff in the wash and I know you're just washing

640
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,560
everything on warm or whatever, right? So it does

641
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,560
limit us a little bit in terms of what kinds of materials that we can use

642
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,560
because we know that you guys are going to mistreat it and that

643
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,560
product design philosophy has worked out really well for us because we know

644
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,560
our customer. Like when you guys saw the project farm

645
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,560
video where Todd benchmarked our t-shirts against other t-shirts

646
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,560
and he found that they didn't shrink nearly as much, that's not because we have

647
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,560
magic cotton that doesn't shrink, it's because we

648
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,560
pre-shrink everything to an obsessive level as much as we are able

649
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,560
because we know that you guys are going to not take care of things properly

650
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,560
and that's exactly what Todd did. In his benchmark test

651
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,560
he washed the clothes like a guy,

652
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,560
which you know makes sense, he's a guy or whatever, but that is

653
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,560
not how you properly wash clothes and so we performed really well

654
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,560
in that test because we knew that was going to happen. That doesn't

655
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,560
mean that those other garments were bad, it just means that they were designed for people

656
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,560
who take care of their clothes properly. But anyway

657
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,560
I got to send a very gloaty message to the fashion team because they're always going

658
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,560
after me about like oh we could use this material, we just have to put

659
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,560
really good care instructions on the tag and people will totally not contact support

660
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,560
about it falling apart, I'm like no.

661
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Alright let's go ahead and get this motherboard installed. Dan do you want to hit me with another

662
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,560
merge message? Yeah sure, let's see what you've got a couple more.

663
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,560
When I stream music using Plex Amp on my phone over data

664
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,560
my carrier Mint mislabels it as hotspot data.

665
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,560
Have you heard of this or no effects? Support is being useless.

666
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,560
Oh wow hotspot data.

667
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,560
I can't say that with any of the carriers that I've used here in Canada

668
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,560
I've had a problem with them mischaracterizing

669
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,560
any of the data that I've used on my phone

670
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,560
and honestly speaking I'm not

671
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,560
fully sure what that means because which carrier was it?

672
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,560
Mint. Mint sorry. That's Ryan Reynolds. That's right because

673
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,560
don't some of the more budget oriented carriers have separate data limits

674
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,560
for different uses? I do not know.

675
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,560
I believe so. I know for sure that T-Mobile does because they have partnerships

676
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,560
and stuff where there's certain things that you can do that do not

677
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,560
count against your data cap. I don't know

678
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,560
it's been a whole conversation in the US around

679
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,560
whether the carriers should have the right to prioritize certain data

680
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,560
or treat certain data differently and

681
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,560
all I can tell you is if you don't like that behavior you might just have to

682
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,560
kind of talk to your local representation. Do we have the hardware for

683
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,560
this case anywhere by any chance? No I was counting on it being in those

684
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,560
shelves. Ah okay well I will find some hardware

685
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,560
if it's not then I will. No no we got this we got this

686
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,560
um

687
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,560
I don't see the 632 bin

688
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,560
where do people take this stuff? I don't know why people take these

689
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,560
things. Counter sunk hard drive screws? Yeah I really

690
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,560
don't see either the M3 bin. Oh I've got the M3 bin. Got the M3 cap.

691
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,560
You gonna make it work?

692
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,560
Lost your mic.

693
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,560
Yeah.

694
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,560
Yeah I probably leaned against the thing. We got band-aids for you. Sorry about that.

695
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,560
Oh cool. Yes.

696
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,560
May I please have the smallest band-aid? Smala please.

697
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,560
That's our smallest band-aid?

698
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Okay to be clear

699
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,560
if I was at home on my own time I would not even like put a band-aid

700
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,560
on this it's no big deal and I especially wouldn't need a team of people to

701
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,560
apply it for me. I think if you weren't on stream you wouldn't have done it.

702
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,560
I always fill up the form. Yeah because it's not

703
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,560
oh my gosh okay yeah yeah I know I know I know

704
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,560
disinfecting wipe. So the

705
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,560
reason is that in the workplace even something

706
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,560
like this could theoretically lead to an infection

707
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,560
it could be blood-borne you can however remote the possibility

708
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,560
you can die from a little owie and or like

709
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,560
lose a hand or an ARM or whatever and so with that in mind

710
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,560
from like a workplace safety

711
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,560
standpoint we have policies that ensure that if anyone does get a little

712
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,560
boo-boo at work we have processes

713
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,560
to document that and treat it so that in the event

714
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,560
that something really really terrible happens

715
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,560
they will at least get compensation for it

716
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,560
so as a leader here at the company

717
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,560
I feel that I should lead by example

718
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,560
and even though I kind of gripe about it and meme about it a little bit

719
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,560
make sure that if I am injured however small

720
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,560
I fill out the proper forms and do the proper documentation because I don't want someone to be

721
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,560
hurt or injured and then not be able to get coverage

722
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,560
because what the

723
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,560
is trying to protect against is people who get a little owie at home

724
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,560
and say oh no I got that at work so we have to have the documentation

725
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,560
for when it happened and what happened and what was done to treat it to ensure that we can prove

726
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,560
that it did in fact happen at work to make sure they get their coverage

727
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,560
that is why we do it not because I need someone to put a band-aid on for me

728
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,560
I am going to tilt this up so I can finish installing this here did we find

729
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,560
3632 screws or did we give up okay well hopefully we won't need any

730
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,560
we may not need any oh I might need a thumb screw at the very least

731
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,560
alright Dan do you want to hit me with a merge message

732
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,560
yeah sure here is another one for you why don't you guys edit on

733
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,560
Apple machines either a beefed out MacBook Pro or Mac

734
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,560
Studios Adobe applications are way more stable on Mac and they are more

735
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,560
compact and power efficient also why not knock to a black

736
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,560
why no what black knock to a

737
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,560
knock to a black oh I don't know you like the brown one

738
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,560
yeah I don't know brown is fine it doesn't really matter they are editing work stations

739
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,560
they are not gaming rigs as for your first question why we don't edit on Mac

740
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,560
under certain circumstances we actually do

741
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,560
so whenever we do like a trade show

742
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,560
or an industry event or whatever else where we need to do on-site editing

743
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,560
we do tend to travel with Macs as for

744
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,560
why we don't how much tether you got there Andy

745
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,560
you got a lot of tether oh look at that you got plenty of tether okay come on with me then

746
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,560
I truthfully

747
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,560
oh we have new people I didn't see anybody oh nobody

748
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,560
is here are they like out for a hey Alfred can I borrow you for a minute

749
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,560
oh yeah no yeah no sounds good

750
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,560
oh okay Alfred we had a question from a viewer

751
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,560
I don't know if you guys have like met Alfred yet but he's our

752
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,560
production manager guy now so they wanted to know

753
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,560
why we're like using custom PCs instead of just switching over to Mac because

754
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,560
of the better stability of Adobe applications on Mac you'll have to be

755
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,560
uncomfortably close to me because I have the mic alright well that's a great

756
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,560
question so we have used a combination of Macs and

757
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,560
PC but for I mentioned for like travel we take Mac books with us but

758
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,560
why not Mac here first of all we're using what we

759
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,560
have oh but we're building new machines yes

760
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,560
so we could oh we're open to it okay we're

761
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,560
apparently open to it we are open to it okay thanks Alfred I know

762
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,560
that some of our editors do strongly prefer PC I know that

763
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,560
not every application that we use in our workflow is

764
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,560
part of the Adobe suite I do know that

765
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,560
our info team would strongly prefer that we have

766
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,560
as few Macs as possible because please most of their

767
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,560
administration is for PCs and so most of our processes are

768
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,560
set up for PC but other than that apparently we are open to it

769
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,560
what we're also open to is using

770
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,560
and add in network card

771
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,560
hmmm

772
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,560
sonnet technologies wait we use sonnet

773
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,560
10 gig network cards why they're technically still the fancy

774
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,560
fancy Intel chip that we like oh okay I'm just

775
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,560
surprised that we have new ones from sonnet when we have like an entire

776
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,560
shelf of x5 40 cards sitting over in the warehouse

777
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,560
this one wasn't given to me by infra this one was I oh I need a

778
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,560
card and I went and grabbed it got it okay this might not be actually represented

779
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,560
all right well anyway even with boards that have 10 gig on board

780
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,560
LAN we use these add in next because we've just found them to be

781
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,560
more reliable is that true David no Dan

782
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,560
yet maybe I mean we used to have like

783
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,560
fiber to every station and now we do 10 gig

784
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,560
boards one they're really reliable but also I think a lot of the boards before

785
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,560
didn't have 10 gig built in I thought a big part of it too was the Kyoksia

786
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,560
or whatever it was in the motherboards doesn't play well with our 10 gig I can't

787
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,560
remember it's probably not important anymore well we no longer remember

788
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,560
why we use these add in 10 gig network cards but we do so

789
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,560
there you go this is the kind of thing that happens in a corporate environment that I think a lot of

790
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,560
enthusiasts don't necessarily get

791
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,560
exposed to is sometimes a decision is made for a reason that

792
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,560
totally makes sense in the time that it's made and it costs

793
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,560
so little to continue making that decision forever that there's

794
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,560
never any incentive to change it even if nobody who is left at

795
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,560
the company remembers why the decision was made or understands

796
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,560
why you continue to make it

797
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,560
oh man I mean there's nothing wrong certainly with using an Intel

798
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,560
nick there just isn't maybe necessarily any reason to do it we just

799
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,560
we already have so many of them that I guess we might as well just throw them in our systems

800
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,560
all right done for oh my goodness good gravy is

801
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,560
that ever heavy all right let's take a look at this power supply

802
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,560
sheesh this is the ROG 4 1200

803
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,560
watt platinum 3 it is

804
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,560
$515 so

805
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,560
full honesty this stream is sponsored by ASUS

806
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,560
but this is probably more than I would spend on a power supply

807
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,560
for a run of the mill video editing workstation

808
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,560
however it is jam packed full of features that ASUS would like

809
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,560
me to tell you about including their GAN MOSFET which ASUS claims

810
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,560
offers 30% more power efficiency their GPU first voltage

811
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,560
sensing with a patented intelligent voltage stabilizer

812
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,560
their magnetic OLED display magnetic

813
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,560
display are you guys even serious right now oh my god

814
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,560
oh my god I figured out why

815
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,560
it's so you can put it on either side

816
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,560
that's so smart so you can have

817
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,560
so you can have your OLED display and eat it too

818
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,560
depending on whether you want your fan oriented down or oriented up

819
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,560
I'm gonna go with fan oriented down

820
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,560
because I believe yes this case has a filtered bottom intake here I'll get you a closer

821
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,560
look at that Andy that is hilarious

822
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,560
no those aren't the pins those are just graphics but yes it looks

823
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,560
it kind of looks like it so that goes on there or it comes off

824
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,560
according to your preference that is

825
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,560
so funny

826
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,560
screwed it up way to go Linus you

827
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,560
dropped the ball that's what I dropped today

828
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,560
okay I mean they can't do it oh no oh yeah

829
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,560
oh look at that yeah and all the text is right side up regardless of which way you put it into

830
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,560
hilarious um

831
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,560
Anywho it's fully modular with compliance with the ATX

832
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,560
3.1 standard and comes with a 10 year warranty

833
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,560
let's go ahead and get it installed then do you want to hit me with a merchant message

834
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,560
or a thing heck yeah

835
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,560
Hey Linus any chance of offering a certificate like Coursera with LTT being well known

836
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,560
in the tech world wouldn't it be great to offer something like that for a refresher course

837
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,560
LTT University it's something that Colton has wanted to

838
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,560
develop for a long time and not necessarily that specifically

839
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,560
but some kind of course

840
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,560
courses can be extremely lucrative and when your job

841
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,560
title is business development manager I can understand

842
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,560
why trying to pursue something like that would be

843
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,560
very appealing but my issue every time we bring it up

844
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,560
is that our whole thing from day 0

845
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,560
has been taking advantage of YouTube

846
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,560
and it's incredible ability to democratize information

847
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,560
and knowledge

848
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,560
to democratize knowledge about

849
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,560
PCs and software and

850
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,560
troubleshooting and configuration and like all these things

851
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,560
all these things that we do are about the sharing of information

852
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,560
and so how do I reconcile that with a paid course

853
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,560
that is sort of blocked off like we do exclusive content

854
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,560
absolutely like over on LMG.GG

855
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,560
you'll find all kinds of wonderful exclusives like you can

856
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,560
have interviews with various members of our team

857
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,560
Sammy has a really cool series running right now he manages the Floatplane content

858
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,560
for us he's got a really cool series called Why is WAN late

859
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,560
where he kind of looks at the behind the scenes of what's going on around here

860
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,560
on a Friday afternoon but none of that is critical

861
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,560
that's fun but you don't need it to

862
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,560
make a good decision you know

863
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,560
you don't need it to help your friends build the best gaming computer for the money

864
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,560
and so I've always just felt like

865
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,560
yeah we could do a course on how to build a

866
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,560
computer or whatever we could do a course on

867
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,560
you know tech knowledge

868
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,560
but how do we differentiate that from our standard content that is our bread and butter

869
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,560
the reason that you guys engage with us

870
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,560
and how do we make that not just kind of a

871
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,560
how do we justify charging for what we would normally

872
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,560
give you for free so we would have to come up with a way to

873
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,560
really differentiate that content whether it's through

874
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,560
making it like super professional and super awesome

875
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,560
or whether it's going to another

876
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,560
layer of depth or to your point including like

877
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,560
a certificate with it or something like that but I just

878
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,560
I don't know man I

879
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,560
I just don't really

880
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,560
think people need a certificate to do this kind of

881
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,560
work I think what you really need is some experience and it can be useful

882
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,560
to get a certificate just to demonstrate that you

883
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,560
have some experience and you have some knowledge

884
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,560
but I don't think that's for us to develop

885
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,560
I think that if we were going to make a piece of content

886
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,560
that was you know focused on arming people with a whole

887
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,560
whack ton of knowledge you know something like how to build a PC

888
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,560
for and the kind of thing where there would obviously

889
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,560
be enough demand to make a ton of money

890
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,560
you know for the business development team

891
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,560
like I think the first one ended up getting like 10 million views or something

892
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,560
like that and the second one I think is already closing in on like two or

893
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,560
three like it's a really valuable resource

894
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,560
it's just with that in mind then

895
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,560
why are we paywalling it right like we don't really paywall anything

896
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,560
that is valuable beyond just kind of hanging out with us

897
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,560
right?

898
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,560
12.5 on the OG wow okay it's even more than I thought

899
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,560
and that's a long video that's a dense video that is not an

900
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,560
entertaining video that is an educational video that we

901
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,560
we obviously give our you know some of our entertainment flair to but it's meant

902
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,560
to be a resource

903
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,560
3.7 on the new one okay so yeah they're both doing better than I

904
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,560
thought actually I don't know I'm not saying

905
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,560
never it's possible Colton will talk me into it or we will come up

906
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,560
with an angle that really makes it feel sufficiently

907
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,560
different from our regular content that I think we could you know justify

908
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,560
it but right now there is nothing

909
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,560
there's nothing in the plan and we have other

910
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,560
feminist opportunities that we're looking at more eminently than that

911
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,560
yeah money for gold like yeah like becoming a gold prospector if you were

912
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,560
tuned into the pre-stream which is archived exclusively

913
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,560
on full plane if you guys want to go back and watch the

914
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,560
pre-show before WAN Show or the pre-stream before streams like this

915
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,560
that's a good kind of value for that membership

916
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,560
but that doesn't take away from you know just the tech

917
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,560
knowledge that we're disseminating

918
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,560
Dan you got another one for me yes I do

919
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,560
nice noise

920
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,560
hi little D little L and no big L just

921
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,560
built my first PC with ARGB

922
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,560
any suggestions on control software that won't make me run programs from three different

923
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,560
manufacturers to work for RAM GPU and motherboard

924
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,560
I think I'm using Signal RGB on my system

925
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,560
my NCIX signed PC in my office and that seems

926
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,560
to be going okay for me I feel like that landscape

927
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,560
is kind of always changing and you know who has the low

928
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,560
overhead application kind of all over the place

929
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,560
for my own system I can tell you right now I don't bother

930
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,560
like for my system at home where I actually care about performance

931
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,560
I just don't bother with it I just let it be rainbow vomit which

932
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,560
doesn't have any CPU overhead and I don't care but

933
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,560
if you care about it and you want to configure it then maybe give Signal RGB a try

934
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,560
I'd say that would probably be your best bet

935
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,560
full disclosure they have been a sponsor of ours in the past I don't think we've worked with them recently

936
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,560
but hey there you go make of that what you will

937
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,560
you use Signal as well okay cool

938
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,560
there is no perfect one though yeah that's fair

939
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,560
just plugging in a fan

940
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,560
connector here or I'm going to try this is going to be pretty tough okay Dan

941
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,560
you want to hit me again while I try and fight with this thing yeah sure

942
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,560
I really wish I did this before I put in this NIC I put PTM

943
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,560
7950 on my CPU and I have seen no cooling benefit over the

944
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,560
core cell thermal paste I had on there is my cooler the bottleneck

945
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,560
or did I probably apply it wrong

946
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,560
I doubt that you applied it wrong I think it would be pretty hard to screw up applying PTM

947
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,560
and also I want to

948
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,560
make it clear that while we sell PTM 7950 and we think it's a great

949
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,560
product it's not magic you know it's

950
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,560
thermal paste you should not expect to get a meaningful

951
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,560
performance boost from thermal paste you might see

952
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,560
a couple degrees lower temps depending on the processor type

953
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,560
but PTM is really best suited for direct

954
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,560
die processors like you might find in a

955
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,560
laptop for instance so

956
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,560
oh I've been using these straps wrong for years interesting

957
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,560
oh check this out I will come back to your question

958
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,560
I for all this time have been going like this

959
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,560
and then strapping it down like that which works but that's not what you're

960
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,560
supposed to do you're supposed to put them all the way

961
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,560
under then put this under then go like that

962
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,560
brilliant I just tech tipped myself

963
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,560
I am so happy

964
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,560
I can't believe that I've been doing this wrong all this time

965
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,560
I mean it's one of those things where it's like you know if it's working then whatever right if it fits

966
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,560
but no this is way better this ah this is great

967
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,560
oh actually no I don't like it as much on this one

968
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,560
because if I do it this way

969
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,560
then it's going to sit right there and I'm going to see the stupid cable

970
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,560
okay well hmm

971
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,560
okay well do whatever way works for you and this way works for me better for this one

972
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,560
so that I can get it over to this side and I can trap it

973
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,560
there between the hook and loop so it doesn't make its way back over

974
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,560
okay well I'm less annoyed with myself for doing it wrong

975
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,560
now that I know that this way can also be valid

976
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,560
what question was I answering again I no longer remember oh yeah PTM

977
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,560
so really it's best for bear dies so GPUs

978
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,560
are a great example we used PTM7950 in the last

979
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,560
scrapyard wars and that ended up getting us really nice temps

980
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,560
that contributed to our system being quieter because

981
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,560
the lower the temps on your GPU the lower it will spin the fans

982
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,560
especially in the default profile before you tune anything so there's a definite benefit there

983
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,560
but if you just throw it on a CPU with an

984
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,560
IHS like an integrated heat spreader and you expect like a

985
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,560
performance difference compared to what is already a pretty high performance

986
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,560
thermal paste then yeah I can see how you'd be disappointed

987
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,560
if it was released out of the gate but the thing about PTM

988
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,560
or the other thing about PTM is that it's designed for longevity

989
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,560
that stuff is super low validated

990
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,560
to last for an extremely long time many many many many many heating and cooling cycles

991
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,560
and my understanding is it actually tends to instead of

992
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,560
drying out like some other lesser thermal compounds

993
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,560
it actually has a tendency to perform a little bit better once it's broken in

994
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,560
which used to be I feel like more of a thing back in the day

995
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,560
you know back with like Arctic Silver and then

996
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,560
became something that thermal paste manufacturers would market

997
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,560
you didn't need for their compound but then I guess it kind of became a thing again

998
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,560
so I don't know there's a lot of mixed

999
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,560
information about that and frankly don't take

1000
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,560
this the wrong way but I simply don't care enough

1001
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,560
we're at the point now where if you buy a high quality thermal compound

1002
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,560
the difference of a

1003
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,560
degree or two here or there is not particularly meaningful to me

1004
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,560
so for me what I like about PTM is that I can use it in an

1005
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,560
application like a laptop or wherever and I can

1006
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,560
know that it's not going to like dry out or wear out in a

1007
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,560
reasonable amount of time I have as I've gotten older

1008
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,560
and gotten busier and gotten less patient

1009
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,560
I have found that I care far more about stuff just

1010
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,560
working and a little less about

1011
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,560
getting one degree more out of something you know

1012
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,560
alright I'm just plugging in so what is this what am I looking at here

1013
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,560
it's for the voltage sense I guess it's a voltage sense yeah oh interesting

1014
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,560
so it kind of what I guess prioritizes making

1015
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,560
sure that you don't get any v-drup on the to the gpn

1016
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,560
I can show you what the website says I don't really understand

1017
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,560
alright so yeah we plug that little purple one in directly to the power supply

1018
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,560
and then that is spliced into

1019
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,560
these two pins right here

1020
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,560
gp cp voltage sensing mode so you can set it to either CPU

1021
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,560
or GPU first

1022
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,560
even during demanding games alright

1023
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,560
maybe we haven't we haven't looked at this in the lab or anything so I don't

1024
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,560
actually know for sure if it does anything or if it matters but

1025
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,560
I can tell you it probably doesn't hurt anything so here we go

1026
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,560
and Linus are we giving these systems to all of the editors I do not know

1027
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,560
what the plan is for these systems that is a good question for infra

1028
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,560
hey Dan are we building systems like this for all the editors

1029
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,560
this is like the tester one oh this is a test system

1030
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,560
yeah right because I guess if switching to

1031
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,560
AMD doesn't actually even address the stability issues then there would be no reason to do it

1032
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,560
understood that makes perfect sense

1033
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,560
I expect it to be better than what we have now I built a very similar system for myself

1034
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,560
and it's been rock solid we've been running AMD on the WAN and this computer

1035
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,560
knock on wood but it's okay ah that's the WAN is a very different

1036
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,560
application than this though we don't even use Premiere

1037
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,560
I guess we'll see we'll see we'll see guys maybe oh maybe what we should

1038
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,560
do is let's commit now to do a like a Floatplane follow

1039
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,560
up just like we did with the hard line tubing thing

1040
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,560
so we can do a follow up and we can let you guys know what we settled on or maybe what we'll do

1041
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,560
is if we do settle on these we could do another stream where we build like half a

1042
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,560
dozen machines and we we build a bunch of them on camera like we've done in the past

1043
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,560
that maybe ill-advisable oh really

1044
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,560
we shouldn't build computers on stream anymore are you saying that I didn't build them good last time

1045
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,560
I thought the ones that we were using last time were all built blindfolded

1046
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,560
that's a rumor that I heard no I think

1047
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,560
I think what they're thinking of was the time that I built alongside

1048
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,560
someone else so the ones other than I did make one

1049
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,560
error on one of mine but other than that the ones I built were fine but the ones that we

1050
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,560
had built by the randoms I think had a lot of problems I think that was the problem

1051
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,560
yeah so but I could build them all

1052
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,560
I could supervise we could build them together

1053
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,560
speaking of making mistakes I several times

1054
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,560
have noted oh yeah I haven't plugged in my front connectors yet and then

1055
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,560
like oh I should do that now and then not done it

1056
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,560
so I'm gonna do that before we put the GPU in real quick here

1057
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,560
Dan do you have a merch message for me yes absolutely

1058
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,560
don't get more blood on it

1059
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,560
with the possible advent of steam OS around the corner is it true that AMD

1060
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,560
GPUs are preferable for Linux these days or am I out of date or

1061
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,560
misinformed my understanding is that NVIDIA has made

1062
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,560
some progress on being more friendly for Linux

1063
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,560
however

1064
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,560
however

1065
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,560
valve specifically supports

1066
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,560
AMD to a greater degree than they do NVIDIA

1067
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,560
so what is going on here does this only

1068
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,560
have a power switch oh so it

1069
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,560
does okay cool well that makes plugging this in a relatively

1070
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,560
simple affair okay cool that's there

1071
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,560
so because valve only builds in native support for AMD cards

1072
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,560
they strongly recommend if you go look at the requirements on

1073
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,560
their site for the steam OS image they strongly recommend that if you want to

1074
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,560
run it on a desktop you configure that desktop to be as similar

1075
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,560
to a steam deck as possible for the best

1076
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,560
compatibility and stability experience

1077
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,560
and I would recommend whatever valve recommends when it comes to running

1078
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,560
their operating system because yes it's under the hood

1079
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,560
just Arch Linux but it also isn't arch is highly

1080
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,560
customizable and can be

1081
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,560
very temperamental if not configured expertly

1082
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,560
which is exactly what we are counting on valve to do that's what makes

1083
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,560
it steam OS is all the work that they've put into

1084
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,560
building out features and support and

1085
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,560
making sure that it all works together seamlessly

1086
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,560
alright this can go and I think we're ready to talk about our GPU

1087
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,560
this is the last big

1088
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,560
ASUS featured piece it is their RTX 5080

1089
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,560
ROG Astral and

1090
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,560
5080s look like they might be where we end up for our

1091
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,560
editing stations regardless of whether we stick with an AMD platform

1092
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,560
or go crawling back to Intel

1093
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,560
there's a couple of things that I wanted to kind of run through first of all

1094
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,560
this is a two generation upgrade for us if you look back at both

1095
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,560
of our previous iterations there that's the 2021 edition with threadripper

1096
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,560
that's over on the right and then that's the upgrade that we did behind

1097
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,560
the scenes to Intel 13th gen over on the left there both

1098
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,560
of them are featuring 3090s so we're going all the way

1099
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,560
to Ampere to Blackwell skipping over Ada Lovelace or Ada

1100
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,560
I think they ended up calling it so that's going to

1101
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,560
give us not only additional performance but with these 50 series

1102
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,560
oh my goodness this thing is

1103
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,560
huge

1104
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,560
there we go

1105
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,560
with the 50 series that's going to give us their brand new media engine

1106
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,560
which I am personally extremely excited for

1107
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,560
do we have any notes about that in here? No but it can do 422

1108
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,560
HBBC encoding and decoding

1109
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,560
so much higher quality encoding is the main thing that I care about

1110
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,560
and that's going to come down to software support whether we can utilize it

1111
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,560
at all but if we're building new stations today

1112
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,560
especially with the way that performance

1113
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,560
40 series isn't really any cheaper then this seems

1114
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,560
like the sweet spot for us with that said that I'll kind of realize

1115
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,560
on getting these things for something resembling MSRP which

1116
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,560
has not been a thing yet but that's okay we can be patient

1117
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,560
anyway this has an overclocked mode up to 2790MHz engine clock

1118
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,560
16 gigs of GDDR7 memory we don't really do any

1119
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,560
AI stuff on our editing workstations so we don't really need the extra VRAM of their

1120
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,560
top tier 1590 and ASUS claims that their quad fan

1121
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,560
design boosts their flow and pressure by up to 20% they've also got their

1122
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,560
patented vapor chamber with milled heat spreader for lower GPU

1123
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,560
temperatures and their phase change GPU thermal pad along with

1124
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,560
powerful 50 amp MOSFETs to help enhance performance, stability

1125
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,560
and higher overclocking potential we won't be overclocking any of our workstations

1126
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,560
or anything like that but I have heard through the grapevine

1127
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,560
that these 5080s are absolutely monster overclockers

1128
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,560
they also have a protective PCB coating that can guard against

1129
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,560
moisture apparently so if you work in a like obviously don't

1130
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,560
like throw it in the pool or whatever but if you work in an extremely humid

1131
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,560
environment that can be a legitimate concern it can also help with dust and

1132
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,560
extreme temperatures apparently and whoop I just

1133
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,560
mushed my cable oh boy what that crap

1134
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,560
look at this bloody thing it makes even a 3090

1135
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,560
look kind of like comical you know like that's

1136
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,560
two 3090s back there because that we were using that for some kind of

1137
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,560
AI something or other that was that's the one from the color booth I think

1138
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,560
look at this thing it's one card

1139
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,560
anyway their GPU tweak 3 softwares included for

1140
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,560
performance tweaking advanced thermal controls and system monitoring let's go ahead and get this plugged in

1141
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,560
David are we ready to run this thing I think we are all right Dan do you want to hit me

1142
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,560
with a couple merge messages while we get this all kind of get a monitor on the desk

1143
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,560
and get this all set up absolutely all right good stuff

1144
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,560
Linus you and your team are super awesome sauce loved all the LMG channels

1145
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,560
since the day I found them thank you excited for my bag pen

1146
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,560
and precision screwdriver that's not a question

1147
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,560
but that was just super nice oh that is super nice as a micron

1148
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,560
I love seeing the crucial storage Linus how do you go about deciding

1149
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,560
how to hire engineers for Labs and CW how did you

1150
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,560
know what qualifications you needed that is an excellent question

1151
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,560
one that would probably be best met handled by

1152
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,560
the people who do hiring for us these days truthfully speaking

1153
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:42,560
I am not really involved in the hiring process anymore

1154
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,560
I can tell you that we don't necessarily you know require

1155
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,560
someone to have their PNG so their like official engineering

1156
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,560
certification in fact I don't

1157
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,560
think anyone on the CW team has technically

1158
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,560
completed it even though the reason for it is

1159
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,560
not necessarily because they're like not good enough or whatever

1160
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,560
like one of them I'm gonna I'm gonna mangle the details

1161
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,560
on this but it's something along these lines but one of them

1162
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,560
basically was on the brink of doing it but then their mentor

1163
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,560
or like their proctor or whatever I don't

1164
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,560
remember what the term is for it but their mentor person died

1165
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,560
and then for them to do it after that

1166
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,560
would require them to like redo

1167
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,560
something and they were just like well I'm working already

1168
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,560
like forget it

1169
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,560
so just because they don't necessarily

1170
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,560
have the credentials doesn't mean that they don't have the skills

1171
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,560
I will say that we definitely care a lot

1172
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,560
about hiring for attitude and for willingness to

1173
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,560
learn because knowledge can be taught but

1174
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,560
a natural curiosity and a willingness to learn new things can't

1175
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,560
I think like a great example of that is actually walking around

1176
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,560
over there like David started here as a camera guy

1177
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,560
slash editor found that he really didn't enjoy the editing part of it

1178
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,560
transition to camera guy

1179
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,560
editing is awful even though

1180
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,560
even though frankly his camera skills when he started

1181
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,560
were a little rough around the edges sometimes but that was when he started

1182
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,560
he got way better at it he has a great attitude and now

1183
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,560
he's gone from first he started on the writing team as a junior writer

1184
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,560
now he's a full writer and has just taken

1185
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,560
that passion and that willingness to learn

1186
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,560
and made this place go from like a McJob doing something he hated

1187
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,560
editing to I think he's having a lot more fun these days

1188
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,560
I think so yeah so I don't know so that's

1189
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:06,560
what's really important is prioritizing attitude and willingness

1190
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,560
to learn because like yeah you could I think you could be stuck in a

1191
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,560
dead-end position at a job and you could go oh my company is not doing

1192
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,560
enough to provide career advancement or change opportunities

1193
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,560
for me or you can you know just

1194
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,560
get in there and contribute and learn

1195
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:30,560
and find new things to do I don't know

1196
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,560
I personally have been having a lot of fun working on David's projects

1197
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,560
which to me is always a strong indicator that

1198
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,560
we're having fun creating them overall because I tell the team

1199
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,560
this like all the time this is on our like laws of

1200
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,560
making good videos have fun because the audience's

1201
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,560
bullshit detector is like finely tuned and if you're faking it

1202
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,560
if you're pretending that you're having fun they pick up on that immediately

1203
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,560
and they're not having fun and then no one's having fun and why are we even here

1204
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,560
right and it's like yeah we could be here just to get raw

1205
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,560
dry information like from our 5080 review

1206
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,560
we found that the Davidchi Puget Bench results

1207
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,560
were about 25% better than our old systems

1208
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,560
with the 3090 and we found that our

1209
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:26,560
Premiere Puget Bench results were about 22% better

1210
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,560
compared to our old 3090

1211
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,560
really useful valuable information but if we don't make it fun

1212
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,560
then we're not making it accessible to as many people so that's really

1213
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,560
important to us oh another thing I'm supposed to do while David finishes

1214
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,560
that off is I'm supposed to change into

1215
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,560
our featured shirt for today

1216
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,560
this right here is our sport button up shirt because

1217
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,560
we are serious business people now we're no longer

1218
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,560
our early 20s you know creating a tech channel

1219
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,560
and you know whatever now we're expected to kind of look somewhat

1220
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,560
decent and this is a great way to do it I think

1221
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:14,560
oh I'm sorry I'm probably mangling the audio I think this is part of our 9-5 lineup

1222
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,560
I actually can't remember but basically it looks

1223
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,560
like a professional button up shirt see

1224
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:26,560
looks all professional but it's like super comfy

1225
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,560
so it's like really stretchy see that it's like crazy

1226
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,560
stretchy it's also nice and breathable

1227
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,560
and is like wicking and stuff so you can

1228
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,560
be a sweaty boy and be doing real work in this thing and still

1229
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,560
be reasonably comfortable so yeah there you go lttstore.com

1230
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:50,560
uh David do you need any help now that I am

1231
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,560
doing all the stuff I'm supposed to oh okay there should be some grabbing goes in

1232
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,560
there's two as well right usually I have one set maybe

1233
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,560
I don't know if there's a dongle for it nope the dongle for this mice is missing

1234
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,560
I can't even really get mad at people about that

1235
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,560
because that is anyone about it

1236
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,560
do you have enough grab and go no for the whole class

1237
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,560
wait oh really yeah there might be some over here

1238
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,560
okay well hey here's a little bit of inside baseball for you guys

1239
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,560
we are supposed to have grab and go

1240
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:30,560
keyboards, mice, power supplies, microphones

1241
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,560
uh wait what is he talking about there's total

1242
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,560
uh David there's totally grab and go keyboards

1243
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,560
here what's that there's so many grab and go keyboards here

1244
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:46,560
there's no mice though yeah there's mice

1245
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,560
I don't like those oh you don't like

1246
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,560
these mice I just uh I knew that there was a couple

1247
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,560
that had been moved okay

1248
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,560
alright that makes way more sense then

1249
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,560
so funny

1250
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,560
I very regularly get called

1251
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,560
well he's got two keyboards too I very regularly get called sort of like out of

1252
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,560
touch because I have enough money that realistically

1253
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,560
I can afford any keyboard I want and any GPU I want and all of that

1254
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,560
but the biggest divas we have here

1255
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,560
are not me like I regularly have to bring Ploof back down to earth

1256
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,560
in terms of what normal people expect from a monitor and what

1257
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:38,560
normal people are willing to spend on a monitor and stuff like that

1258
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,560
and like I am willing to use not all

1259
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,560
not any mouse but like almost any mouse on set but you'll have

1260
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,560
people like David that are just like oh I was being silly these are my stuff were you

1261
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,560
oh alright okay nevermind

1262
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,560
still I think you I think you care a fair bit about your stuff I do

1263
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,560
I mean if you've seen his garage you know

1264
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,560
you know buddy's a gamer no yeah no yeah sure

1265
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,560
sure we're missing one Ethan do we really only have one cable

1266
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,560
um no there's a blue one right there you can just plug

1267
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,560
that in anywhere on the switch and then we're good to go uh Dan you want to hit me with a merge message

1268
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,560
oh in case you guys are wondering what the heck we're setting up uh this is a drag race

1269
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,560
between the new machine and the less

1270
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,560
new machine uh let's see oh let's see

1271
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,560
if she fires up I do

1272
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,560
and oh no guys I did it

1273
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,560
I whammyed us I put the side panels on

1274
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,560
there is there is no chance

1275
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,560
that this just fires up on the first try I don't know it's got

1276
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:54,560
aces components in it it might be perfect well no it doesn't matter

1277
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,560
the four sticks of RAM might it doesn't matter when you close the side panel

1278
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,560
there is literally no chance

1279
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,560
no chance that it will fire up the first time without issue editors are cursed

1280
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,560
do you want a merge message while we wait for it to fail yeah sure I'm checking

1281
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,560
by my first LTT product I really hope the quality matches the

1282
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,560
expectations also question in the scribe driver negative reviews

1283
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,560
I heard some people complaining about the clicking sound is it

1284
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,560
still an issue still an issue clicking sound on the scribe driver

1285
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,560
I don't think I have a scribe driver on me does anybody have a scribe driver around

1286
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,560
I don't have one mine is it my desk there's one on

1287
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,560
uh that's not gonna help us much it's kind of far

1288
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:42,560
away from you in 20 minutes do I have a

1289
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,560
where's the little I thought the scribe driver was supposed to click

1290
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:50,560
yeah no it definitely is supposed to you know make a satisfying

1291
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,560
noise let me see if I can just steal one from someone's desk I'll be back

1292
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,560
David will host for now

1293
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,560
the uh does anyone have a scribe driver the configuration is very challenging so the memory

1294
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:06,560
very long time it's gonna take a while to try anyway

1295
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,560
yeah um but this capacity is very very high

1296
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,560
when I was testing it before we got 128 gigs working yeah we did not

1297
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,560
succeed at getting 256 well I've done um I've done streams with the Linus before

1298
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:22,560
and he's freaking out because he thinks the computer is broken and it's just taking a long time

1299
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,560
to train for the first time so just give it extra extra time

1300
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,560
yeah even when we I did it with the or the person doing it did it with

1301
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,560
one stick it took three four minutes so let's uh

1302
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,560
I'm here to entertain

1303
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,560
business team will almost certainly have one I sure hope so

1304
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,560
uh it looks like I've got Windows on the other one so that's working okay fantastic

1305
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,560
that is our old system um it's funny

1306
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,560
we were originally gonna do the thumbnail where we put the two computers side by side but they're gonna look

1307
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,560
so similar it's the same case same cooler so just the gp would be

1308
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,560
different and then a thumbnail uh that would really be

1309
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,560
unimpressive you know that's not what we go for we go for

1310
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:10,560
uh blowing you away you know what I'm saying

1311
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,560
oh found one listen I click so it's like it's a bolt action pen

1312
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,560
so there's not really a click when you slide it into place

1313
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,560
but there's a bit of a snap

1314
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,560
from the spring when you rock it back so

1315
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:30,560
yep that's that's how it's supposed to work uh

1316
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:34,560
who's destiny I take this from well we'll take it out later

1317
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,560
in the meantime try to time to probably shoot this pc should we let it memory train longer do you think

1318
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,560
I think it should memory train for longer you want to let it keep memory training is that what it's doing is that what

1319
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,560
code 15 is it's a memory thing yeah oh boy

1320
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,560
so that's the thing right AMD platforms can take

1321
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,560
a minute to memory train and the more you have and the more

1322
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,560
ridiculous your configuration the longer you can expect to wait

1323
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,560
Jesus code 15 for people that don't know when he says a minute

1324
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,560
he means that metaphorically and it could be like 20 minutes it's like the

1325
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:10,560
it's a concerning amount of time and then it's fine yeah

1326
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,560
Q code 15 okay yes it's definitely

1327
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:18,560
definitely memory related if the memory

1328
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,560
worked fine on another board it was probably okay all right well

1329
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,560
yeah one hit me with another merge message sure yeah I've got a few here

1330
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:30,560
um let's see hey Linus Dan and David

1331
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:34,560
as what what did he say I said yo

1332
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,560
oh I thought Linus was freaking out about the computer

1333
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,560
as someone who finds himself screaming at Windows at work regularly

1334
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,560
I'm curious what do you all do when things aren't going your way do research take a break

1335
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,560
cry

1336
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,560
yeah first get really frustrated then I mean the next thing

1337
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,560
is like a Google search unless I you know have already encountered it

1338
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:02,560
before a lot of the time when I encounter a tech issue it's I've seen something like it

1339
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:06,560
at some point in the past so I will have like at least a starting point

1340
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,560
but I mean for example right now you know my system just like randomly closes

1341
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:14,560
Chrome every once in a while has that happened in the script review with you no oh yeah it just happens

1342
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,560
sometimes just Chrome just like shuts down it just shuts down

1343
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:22,560
um also occasionally I'll come into the office and it doesn't

1344
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,560
wake up from sleep anymore it has some serious issues and I think they're

1345
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:30,560
related to probably the IMC on my CPU

1346
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,560
because that's something I've learned over the years is if something is completely

1347
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,560
inexplicable then it's the power supply or RAM

1348
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:42,560
if nothing makes sense or it's

1349
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:46,560
intermittent power supply or RAM

1350
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,560
already done a fresh Windows install because it could also definitely be Windows

1351
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,560
research go find a guide

1352
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,560
I mean we have we have the you know

1353
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:02,560
whatever wonder of the world that is YouTube available to us

1354
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:06,560
you can do just about anything there until they pull the video down about how to

1355
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:10,560
de-google your life I'm a big believer in stepping away for 10 minutes

1356
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,560
and then just hoping it fixes itself and coming back and sometimes it does

1357
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:18,560
oh dude and and if it doesn't then it can also

1358
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:22,560
fix your mind the number of times that I've been stumped on like a word scapes

1359
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,560
puzzle for like 10 minutes and then just put it away and come back to it the next day

1360
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:30,560
and solved it like instantly it's wild what a what a fresh

1361
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,560
perspective will do for you oh yeah when you're like facing a boss in a video game and you can't

1362
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:38,560
be like this is impossible and then you go away and first try it when you come back

1363
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:42,560
my son is seven

1364
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:46,560
getting really curious about circuits and computers and how they work cool

1365
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,560
any ideas for how to get him engaged or excited

1366
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:54,560
my best idea now is rebuilding an old beater off of craigslist

1367
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:58,560
I mean it depends how interested they are in like like actual

1368
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,560
circuits and stuff versus just building computers

1369
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:06,560
but there was this this kit that we picked up a while back

1370
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:10,560
that was pretty cool is less electronics and more

1371
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:14,560
electricity let me see if I can find the one

1372
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,560
snap circuits is that the one

1373
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,560
oh yes here's your CAPTCHA

1374
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,560
just to go to amazon.ca really yeah snap circuits

1375
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,560
it's pretty cool so it comes with a book and it comes

1376
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,560
with like a bunch of different stuff like there's a fan and there's a light and there's

1377
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,560
little resistor boards and stuff like that

1378
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:42,560
and it basically has like a project book that it comes with

1379
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,560
and you use these snapping pieces to build a whole

1380
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,560
bunch of different projects so they'll learn about DC electricity

1381
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:54,560
and switches and the different functions of all the

1382
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:58,560
different little modules pretty cool my son played around

1383
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:02,560
with it a fair bit actually when he was younger and then got bored of it

1384
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:06,560
as kids are apt to do but yeah definitely seems pretty cool are we going to call that

1385
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:10,560
a bit for memory training? I think so I think we should go to 2.6

1386
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,560
yeah so we ran into this when we were preparing for this build

1387
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,560
we did not actually manage to get all four sticks running so

1388
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:22,560
your mileage may vary on that but apparently a Seuss and Kingston

1389
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:26,560
are working on getting 256 gigs of RAM working

1390
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,560
on these cu dims in bypass mode as it is

1391
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:34,560
even getting just 128 gigs working at the speed

1392
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:38,560
that we were able to get it working at is pretty cool so I think we got

1393
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,560
5600 or 5200? We actually with the 128 we're getting above

1394
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:46,560
6000. Really? They claim 256 at 5600. Okay got it

1395
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:50,560
so let's go ahead and shut this bad boy down

1396
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,560
your mileage may vary though

1397
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,560
I mean compared to the old system

1398
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:02,560
of 120 gigs which was set at 4000 megatransfers per second

1399
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,560
even 5600 would be a huge upgrade

1400
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,560
although in editing the capacity is more important than the speed

1401
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,560
certainly for after effects it's like 100% just everything's

1402
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,560
done to RAM. Oh boy

1403
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:22,560
I didn't like that sound. Okay

1404
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:26,560
she's in there. I'm going to need to get her out of there. Oh there we go

1405
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:30,560
that'll work. There's one of the sticks

1406
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:34,560
on the front stick. Alright. Yeah high

1407
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:38,560
capacity memory compatibility on AMD is a big challenge. Do we need a sag bracket for that card?

1408
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:42,560
Does it come with one? No I don't think so

1409
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,560
She's heavy. She's heavy. She's saggy

1410
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:50,560
DIY something beautiful. She's saggy. Nah she's okay

1411
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:54,560
it's not going to break it. Is it a second one? No

1412
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:58,560
no no no that'll be okay. Yeah that's right you need two. She's alright.

1413
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,560
That is not a reason to buy multiple

1414
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:06,560
precision screwdriver sets. I think we should put that on the sales page

1415
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:10,560
where it says an excellent sag bracket for your stupidly large GPU.

1416
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,560
Buy a three pack. Okay we're still stuck

1417
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,560
on 15 but this time it could just be training. I wonder

1418
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,560
if that other time it was, I wonder if it was training stuff.

1419
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:26,560
I told you. Did we try leaving it for like half an hour?

1420
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:30,560
We didn't have time. We were in such a rush this morning. Oh because Jake has told me

1421
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,560
that he has seen it in the past with these AMD systems where he will literally

1422
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:38,560
give up and like walk away and come back and memory training

1423
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:42,560
is complete. I told you it's a concerning length of time.

1424
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,560
So your mileage may vary. Hopefully this will

1425
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:50,560
train and be good in a reasonable amount of time but in the meantime Dan will kill some time with

1426
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:54,560
another merge message. Sure. Hi I'm planning on building a new

1427
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,560
PC and I was looking to use it for gaming slash productivity

1428
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:02,560
slash streaming. I was looking at getting the Ryzen 99D950X

1429
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:06,560
or should I wait for the X3D or go with the 9950X?

1430
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,560
If gaming is your primary consideration

1431
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:14,560
then it's hard not to justify the

1432
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:18,560
extra upcharge for the X3D versus the non X3D variant.

1433
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,560
But if realistically it's like a family computer

1434
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,560
slash like sort of workstation, you do a bunch of other stuff on it

1435
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:30,560
it's...

1436
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:34,560
I don't know that I would bother waiting. Like if you want a new computer then

1437
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,560
get a new computer. There's always always something around the corner

1438
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:42,560
and what we have found is that particularly if you're gaming at higher resolutions

1439
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:46,560
like even 1440p

1440
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:50,560
if you have a modern CPU it's not going to be your bottleneck anyway.

1441
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:54,560
So it kind of is what it is.

1442
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:58,560
And the thing is you're buying into AM5 which AMD has still committed

1443
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:02,560
to supporting until I think 2027. So you will have

1444
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:06,560
future upgrade options available to you. So you could always

1445
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:10,560
maybe throw an X3D in later once they come down in price and you just kind of

1446
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,560
flip your 9950 or whatever the case may be.

1447
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:18,560
This is still not to...

1448
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:22,560
4 plus minutes for one stick. So it takes...

1449
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:26,560
Why don't you tell us about the old system that we're going to be upgrading from?

1450
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:30,560
Sure, I could do that. So this is the

1451
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:34,560
old Intel based one. So we've got a

1452
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,560
1300K. This also has 128 gigs of memory

1453
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,560
but running at much lower speeds because we're populating all 4 memory slots.

1454
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:46,560
This particular system has dual 3090s because I believe

1455
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,560
it was used for some AI inferencing stuff

1456
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,560
in addition to being used as an editing station in one of the isolated

1457
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:58,560
booths. Same SSD, same 1TB crucial

1458
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:02,560
P5. We're using these pro-art motherboards not because they make any

1459
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:06,560
sense whatsoever at the price but because I think ASUS gave us

1460
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,560
like a sweetheart of a deal on them and I wouldn't say no to that.

1461
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:14,560
There's certainly nothing wrong with them. We're using CSONIC Prime power supplies

1462
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:18,560
good power supply but so is the ASUS. As long as you're

1463
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,560
using a good power supply I don't think that's going to have any kind of impact on performance

1464
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,560
or stability. CSONIC doesn't have a magnetic OLED though. Yeah, that's true.

1465
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:30,560
CSONIC does not have that. Way to go CSONIC. Get with the times.

1466
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,560
Alright Dan, hit me.

1467
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:38,560
Sure, sure, sure.

1468
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:42,560
Hey Linus, do you think the computer industry will outlast the games industry?

1469
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,560
I got a game design degree and we'll see how that's going

1470
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:50,560
so I'm going to law school. We're eating on some LSAT results.

1471
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,560
Everything is cyclical in both

1472
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:58,560
tech and gaming and those two cycles

1473
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,560
in those two industries do contribute to each other.

1474
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,560
They've both seen a

1475
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:10,560
major pullback. The tech industry one I kind of understand

1476
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:14,560
because things were reaching a point of somewhat

1477
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:18,560
ridiculousness for how hard the big tech giants were

1478
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:22,560
bidding for any employee, like literally anyone fresh out of

1479
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,560
school was just getting bombarded with job offers for a little while there

1480
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:30,560
to the point where it just kind of didn't

1481
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,560
seem to be sustainable forever. So I understand

1482
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,560
where the pullback is coming from there. I wish they weren't pulling back so hard

1483
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:42,560
because the impact on people who have spent

1484
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,560
years of their lives educating themselves to work in the

1485
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:50,560
tech industry or in some cases spent years of their lives working

1486
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,560
at these companies are just being summarily

1487
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,560
let go or being put

1488
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,560
in a position where they feel like they're being pushed to quit

1489
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:06,560
and that sucks. The games industry is one that I don't really get

1490
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:10,560
as much like yeah there was a big COVID boom and some

1491
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:14,560
studios overhired and ambitious projects were begun

1492
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:18,560
that maybe weren't going to pan out and so I can see a little bit of that happening but when you

1493
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:22,560
have some of these companies and David falls the games industry

1494
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:26,560
a little bit closer than I do but when you have some of these companies

1495
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:30,560
announcing a big layoff and then literally talking record profits

1496
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,560
like a week later it doesn't really track for me. I don't really

1497
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,560
understand it. I think there's multiple layers to the issue of how it happens

1498
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:42,560
I think that you know the chase for profits is one of it. I think part

1499
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,560
of it is we've seen the collapse of new live service games like new

1500
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:50,560
live service games rarely succeed and that for a little bit that was what the big investments

1501
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:54,560
were like Concord's the big one 200 plus million dollars

1502
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,560
just down the drain. Gone. How long was it live? Like a

1503
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,560
week? Two weeks? Something like that. Ten days or something. Yeah and then they just

1504
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,560
funded everyone and walked away from it. They might bring it back but who knows.

1505
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:10,560
But then you got to look at it and you got to go like okay so

1506
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:14,560
fine. The investments that we've made in live service games we're just not going to be able

1507
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:18,560
to topple Fortnite. We're not going to be able to

1508
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,560
we're not going to be able to draw that audience away from it

1509
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:26,560
but then from software Larry and

1510
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:30,560
have shown that there's a massive appetite for not

1511
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:34,560
live service games like so do we have to lay all these people off?

1512
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,560
Oh hey. That's a different code. Dude I wonder if we just

1513
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:42,560
didn't wait long enough. I told you. I don't know if I want to try

1514
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:46,560
on stream but I do want to say that it is very possible

1515
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,560
given how long this was hanging on 15 that this was just memory

1516
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,560
training before and it was 256 gigs of flipping memory and

1517
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:58,560
needed a hot minute to finish training. Okay well that's pretty cool

1518
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,560
anyway the point is like I feel like

1519
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:06,560
people could have been reassigned. I got something. I got something?

1520
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:10,560
On mine. It was on 96 for a bit. Yeah no I've got

1521
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:14,560
bias. Is this displaying?

1522
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:18,560
It's not getting signal. This is not plugged in. Oh it must have come unplugged.

1523
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,560
So there's your problem. Oh wait it is plugged in I lied.

1524
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:26,560
Yeah this one. Okay. It was working before

1525
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:30,560
Oh it's not the monitor seems to be the one that's having the issue. Oh no

1526
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,560
Let's give it a sec. I've got it on my side.

1527
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:38,560
Sick. We're close guys. We're close. Dan are you

1528
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:42,560
troubleshooting something or do you want to hit me with a... No I'm just waiting for this monitor.

1529
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:46,560
Hey let's go. Alright. You'll want to go into BIOS and

1530
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,560
make sure. I sure will. Oh we got to go test that AI assistant too.

1531
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:54,560
Oh that's right. Okay how does that work?

1532
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:58,560
Do you know anything about it? Nope. Alright tools maybe?

1533
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:02,560
Let me look it up.

1534
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:06,560
Well it's not in there. Q dashboard? Nope.

1535
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,560
Oh is that a walk diagram? That's cool. Oh wow.

1536
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:14,560
Not quite. It does give you the device ID though. That can be really useful if you're

1537
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:18,560
doing like pastor or whatever. I think you can look it up in Linux anyway but

1538
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:22,560
I don't know what's there. Okay full

1539
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,560
HD setup. Whoa you can have full HD in the setup screen?

1540
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:30,560
At any rate we already

1541
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:34,560
appear to have our memory profile

1542
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:38,560
enabled because it's already running at 5600. No we don't.

1543
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:42,560
Interesting. AEMP.

1544
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:46,560
Huh. We are not going to try to go

1545
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:50,560
all the way to 6800. Try it. No. That's not going to happen.

1546
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:54,560
We're going to go to, what was it? 5600 you guys got

1547
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:58,560
working or 6000? He got 64 working. 64?

1548
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:02,560
Yeah he was above 6000. Okay sure.

1549
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:06,560
No we could do 64. I think he said he got 68 but I'm not 100% sure on that.

1550
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:10,560
Okay you know what? Fine we're going to try it. I will be very surprised

1551
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:14,560
and also we might be, it's not always better to just

1552
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:18,560
go for pure frequency especially on AMD these days but what the heck.

1553
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:22,560
Let's give it a shot. Let's see if it happens. It won't have to fully retrain

1554
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,560
it should just reset and oh boy

1555
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,560
it stuck on 15 again. Cool Dan quick stall for time go go go. Yeah it's going to have to

1556
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:34,560
retrain. I'm considering upgrading my RAM from

1557
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,560
5600 megatransfers C36 to 6000 megatransfers

1558
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:42,560
C30. Just can't decide if the performance is

1559
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:46,560
worth it or if I should just keep waiting until the latencies get even tighter.

1560
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,560
I don't know how much tighter we're going to see

1561
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:54,560
DDR5 latencies and you're going to be limited not just by

1562
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:58,560
the memory that's available but also by the integrated memory controller on your CPU

1563
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:02,560
which understandably tends to be kind of

1564
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:06,560
targeting the memory that is available during the

1565
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:10,560
development of said CPU. As for whether you're

1566
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:14,560
going to notice a meaningful performance difference, you might see a little bit

1567
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:18,560
from that. Not enough to justify the full price of that

1568
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:22,560
new memory kit but if you sell your old memory kit get a decent price for

1569
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:26,560
it and you're only paying like another you know 30 bucks 40 bucks or something like that

1570
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:30,560
on top of what you were able to sell for and I'd say that that could be a worthwhile

1571
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,560
upgrade. So the AI thing is a desktop thing. Oh it's a desktop thing.

1572
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:38,560
I thought it was in the BIOS based on the marketing but it is a desktop thing.

1573
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,560
Right we'll get to that when we get to it then. We'll have to install it. Alright Dan hit

1574
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:46,560
me. Linus, what DIY projects are you working on

1575
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,560
apart from Lambo Bike? Thoughts on more DIY or maker content?

1576
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:54,560
I love the VPN video and would love to get more videos on

1577
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:58,560
Pine As or HexOS builds set up start to

1578
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:02,560
finish. Given I cannot finish that project

1579
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:06,560
do I need another project right now? I will

1580
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:10,560
say that I am learning about casting. I've always

1581
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,560
been kind of interested in it. I did a metal art and jewelry class back in high school

1582
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:18,560
and I had a ton of fun. I made like a cool chain out of

1583
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:22,560
just like silver wire and I what else did I make? I made a small

1584
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:26,560
cast pendant and I just I thought it was such

1585
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:30,560
a blast. So I'm reading this book called Practical

1586
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:34,560
Guide to Casting. I'm about halfway through and I just finished the part where

1587
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:38,560
it talks about sling casting. So to

1588
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,560
sling the metal into the investment that the

1589
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:46,560
mold is in there's multiple ways to do it. So you can use

1590
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:50,560
like a centrifugal thing where you like wind up a spring and then you let go and it

1591
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:54,560
spins and it flings the molten metal into the mold.

1592
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:58,560
You can do ones that are just like gravity

1593
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:02,560
gravity driven. So what you do is you just have like

1594
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:06,560
or sorry not gravity driven vacuum

1595
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,560
driven. So you have like a vacuum that you pull around the mold

1596
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:14,560
and it like sucks the metal into it. And I just got

1597
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,560
to the one about sling casting where basically

1598
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:22,560
what you do is you take your mold and then the gate

1599
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:26,560
at the top you make it narrow enough that the surface tension of the

1600
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,560
molten metal will keep it from going down

1601
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,560
so you can melt it all. You melt it all and then you put it in a sling

1602
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:38,560
and you basically like whip it around like this to drive the

1603
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:42,560
metal down through the gate into the mold and I'm like

1604
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,560
what? Cause that's pretty cool. So I

1605
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:50,560
want to learn about casting.

1606
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:54,560
ZOS015 says please finish the SV650S

1607
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:58,560
it's my old bike and I'd love to see it decked out. Yeah I know. And we want

1608
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:02,560
the beard back. I want the beard back too and I will do

1609
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:06,560
it as soon as I finish painting that stupid, stupid bike. I gave a

1610
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:10,560
progress update on Wancher a little while ago. I haven't touched it since then but

1611
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:14,560
most of the parts are white now which is the layer before

1612
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:18,560
pink which is the layer before effect layer which is the layer before

1613
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:22,560
clear coat. So yeah

1614
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:26,560
oh it's booted. Yeah. No way. Is this at

1615
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:30,560
6800 or did it reset? Yeah.

1616
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:34,560
Okay well that's pretty cool.

1617
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:38,560
We'll see how stable it is. Yeah. We are asking a lot. Yeah.

1618
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:42,560
Oh 1080p right? Yeah for captured. Yep that makes sense.

1619
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:46,560
And we need to, Dan's going to come over and connect this to the server so we can end up with a project.

1620
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:50,560
I have to do my job. Alright I don't have the merge message panel

1621
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:54,560
open so I'm going to hang out with Flowplain Chat for now.

1622
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:58,560
I am going to beat GTA 6. My bike will

1623
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:02,560
be done before GTA 6 launches. I promise you that. It's coming out this fall.

1624
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:06,560
What? It's coming out this fall. Shut up. Yeah. Get on it.

1625
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:10,560
They just told it to investors

1626
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:14,560
that it's still coming 2025. Okay.

1627
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:18,560
It's really tough because like it's actually really hard to paint with the tennis

1628
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,560
elbow. The gun and the hose

1629
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:26,560
and then the hopper and all the different angles and stuff.

1630
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:30,560
So I don't know if I've really talked about this much but I developed tennis elbow

1631
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,560
after that tournament I played late last year and we're now

1632
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:38,560
in February of this year and it is still causing a significant

1633
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,560
amount of pain. I haven't basically been able to play badminton

1634
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:46,560
since Smash Champs fully opened. I did play a little bit

1635
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,560
last night. I hit one smash last night and I'm not

1636
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:54,560
suffering today. Oh that's good. So I'm wondering if the physio's helping

1637
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:58,560
actually gave me this thing which like

1638
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,560
looks like some kind of medieval torture device or something

1639
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:06,560
and it honestly feels like one. Harder these.

1640
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:10,560
They're not that hard but what you do is you

1641
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,560
you sit like this because it's what I learned

1642
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:18,560
is that it's not actually the inflammation that is

1643
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:22,560
the problem of the tendon. That's not good

1644
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:26,560
these little micro tears are just a natural part of

1645
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:30,560
stretching out ligaments and building muscle and all that. So the

1646
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:34,560
micro tears are not what caused the inflammation in the pain. It's the micro tears

1647
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:38,560
combined with an overuse like a repetitive

1648
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:42,560
strain kind of overuse of the muscles on either side that are

1649
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:46,560
pulling it apart while you have all the micro tears

1650
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:50,560
and causing the inflammation and the swelling and the pain.

1651
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:54,560
So what you have to do when you use this thing is you

1652
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:58,560
what's this weird thing called? Roll flex

1653
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,560
not two L's. Roll flex not roll flex.

1654
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,560
Roll flex. So you kind of like

1655
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:10,560
you kind of clamp it with your other ARM and you kind of like

1656
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,560
get into the spot and you're like oh it hurts so much.

1657
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:18,560
But like the good hurts? No. No it hurts. Okay. For you it probably hurts

1658
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:22,560
because you're actually injured. And you're not supposed to do these the site of the injury

1659
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:26,560
so what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to like really work out the

1660
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:30,560
the tension that's pulling

1661
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:34,560
the injury site apart above and below it.

1662
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:38,560
You're supposed to like move the ARM around like especially down here

1663
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:42,560
and between this and just sort of getting a little bit better at

1664
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:46,560
identifying the right spots to do the massage. It's been

1665
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:50,560
helping a lot. I also did some physio. They did like ultrasound. And then they did

1666
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:54,560
the weird one where they hook up the electrodes to it.

1667
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:58,560
They did it a little bit too high one time.

1668
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,560
And like my hand got stuck like this. And I was like

1669
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:06,560
come on. Anyway.

1670
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:10,560
Oh hey!

1671
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:14,560
Oh okay.

1672
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:18,560
Let's see how it goes. Oh hi Mark. Hi how are you? Never better.

1673
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:22,560
Really? I think we might have to play which computer? That one.

1674
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:26,560
This is the new station. So we wanted to bring one of our editors out and the script

1675
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:30,560
says do something. Okay.

1676
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:34,560
We won't drag race the premiere between the two. Oh sure.

1677
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:38,560
So basically we want to get your, oh you can turn that on. We want to get your impression of if this

1678
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:42,560
would be, if we took your workstation away tomorrow and we gave you this

1679
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:46,560
would you be happy, sad or somewhere in between? Probably happy.

1680
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,560
Okay yeah.

1681
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,560
You're picking up the vibe now that I was talking about before.

1682
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:58,560
I'm lost. Oh where am I supposed to go? This PC.

1683
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:02,560
This PC? There we go. Ah there we go.

1684
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:06,560
Don't open the HR full day. We are live.

1685
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:10,560
Is he mic'd? He's mic'd. Oh brilliant. Wonderful.

1686
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:14,560
So what are your main complaints with the current stations?

1687
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:18,560
I'm going to switch spots with you. Okay Andy I'm going to kind of stack up on Mark here.

1688
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:22,560
The current ones are fine. It was

1689
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:26,560
actually the thread rippers that were the problem. The current ones the issue

1690
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,560
is there's not enough VRAM on the 3090s

1691
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:34,560
for like

1692
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:38,560
resolve. I feel like we need to upgrade the VRAM.

1693
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:42,560
Uh oh. No one told me that.

1694
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,560
They didn't tell me you needed more VRAM so these are 5080s. They have less VRAM.

1695
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:50,560
These are 5080s. Yeah this is a 5080. Less VRAM than the

1696
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:54,560
maybe it's just better VRAM I don't know. Okay well let's see. Let's see

1697
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:58,560
good lord. Well okay the good thing is

1698
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:02,560
we don't use a resolve very often. It's usually Premiere. Yeah but still.

1699
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:06,560
So I was told Quick Sync was causing stability issues though. Quick Sync?

1700
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:10,560
Or just the Intel ones had stability issues. So lots of editors that have been having

1701
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:14,560
daily problems. Oh yeah yeah okay yeah yeah I can see that might be the issue.

1702
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:18,560
I know that Threadripper was causing a lot more issues though that

1703
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:22,560
I don't even know what they were. Okay. Or what the what was causing it but

1704
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:26,560
so basically there's ghosts

1705
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:30,560
living in computers and if you anger the ghosts

1706
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,560
they will punish you and so Mark apparently doesn't

1707
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:38,560
use his Intel machine but we have gotten a lot of complaints from the other. I mean our editing

1708
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:42,560
team is almost a dozen people now I think. So even if

1709
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:46,560
you know 10% of systems have an issue

1710
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:50,560
that's one to two of our editors is going to have a problem with it right.

1711
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:54,560
During scrapyard wars. Oh yeah yeah. During scrapyard wars

1712
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:58,560
we would have late night editing sessions and it would delay us like an hour

1713
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,560
or two because it would just crash consistently and we'd have to reload just waiting

1714
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:06,560
and it was very frustrating. That was on the Intel systems. That was on the Intel ones.

1715
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:10,560
Hold on give me one second I'm just going to close that.

1716
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:14,560
Are you just like looking for your favorite project or? Yeah I'm looking for the one I'm working on right now.

1717
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:18,560
Oh okay cool. Gaming at 8k. On the 5090. Yeah.

1718
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:22,560
On the amount of VRAM you thought you were going to get in your new station.

1719
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:26,560
I was hopeful. I heard we were switching to 50 series. I just thought it was going to be

1720
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:30,560
equivalent 50 series. I was more interested

1721
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:34,560
in the better media encoder. I didn't realize you guys needed

1722
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:38,560
a ton of VRAM for Resolve. Are you going to click OK? Yeah.

1723
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:42,560
A lot of it I think is just Resolve optimization issues.

1724
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:46,560
Okay. Linus would you just

1725
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:50,560
open your shirt a bit? You're rubbing quite heavily.

1726
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:54,560
Sorry about that. Is that better? One more. One more.

1727
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:58,560
Seriously? I'm going full like

1728
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:02,560
Italian. Yeah there you go. Thank you. I don't know.

1729
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:06,560
I don't edit. Okay so Mark you have to come this way

1730
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:10,560
and then Andy goes over there and then no

1731
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:14,560
you still use the computer. No no but with your right hand. This is what happens

1732
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:18,560
when we let not on camera people. Oh like this. Just like that.

1733
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:22,560
And then I go right here. He's an on camera people now. It's good.

1734
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,560
And then when you talk to me you just kind of turn your head this way but don't bother looking at me it's fine. Got it.

1735
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:30,560
It'll look natural to them.

1736
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,560
Offline all. Okay cool.

1737
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:38,560
Alright here we are.

1738
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:42,560
Well you definitely offline all. Yeah well no it's pending.

1739
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:46,560
Multiple languages dude. Now are we

1740
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:50,560
at 10 gig Dan? No. Did we check? No because we have to install

1741
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:54,560
the driver specifically for that card. We did.

1742
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:58,560
Okay well it wouldn't. It wouldn't resolve.

1743
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:02,560
Maybe that's because I had it. It was in the wrong port on the switch. Okay one sec.

1744
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:06,560
So throw it back in there. Okay.

1745
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:10,560
See if that connects. Sorry Mark that's probably going to impact your

1746
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:14,560
ability to load that footage.

1747
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:18,560
What's happening? There you go. Well I unplugged your network.

1748
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:22,560
See if it's gotten an IP at least. Oh there it is.

1749
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:26,560
Oh yeah sorry. No it's not good. Yeah.

1750
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:30,560
I would strongly recommend against doing that while you're loading a project.

1751
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:34,560
That's not great. Not recommended. Oh did I?

1752
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:38,560
No no it's okay. Did I ruin everything? Yeah.

1753
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:42,560
Our editors are used to just the infrastructure collapsing

1754
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:46,560
in the middle of their editing. Used to happen all the time remember when the UPS caught fire?

1755
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:50,560
Yeah I do remember when the UPS caught fire.

1756
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:54,560
Yes I didn't mean that as a dig at our infer team. Our infer team does a great job these days

1757
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:58,560
but we didn't used to have an infer team and Mark is from the old times.

1758
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:02,560
You're over five years now. Yeah. Yeah. So he

1759
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:06,560
remembers when the infer team was me and my spare time.

1760
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:10,560
And Jake. Yeah and Jake. Sometimes. Sometimes.

1761
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:14,560
When you can find them. Okay.

1762
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,560
So if I told you this is your station now what would you think?

1763
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:22,560
Right now I'd be fine. This is not bad. The responsiveness

1764
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:26,560
is actually better. Hold on where I have.

1765
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:30,560
Okay so we're going full res here boys. Yeah. Full res

1766
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:34,560
here boys.

1767
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:38,560
Oh hey. That's offline.

1768
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:42,560
Oh more guards haven't loaded.

1769
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:46,560
Motion graphics. Yeah motion graphic templates yeah.

1770
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:50,560
How's it feel? Ah pretty good. Pretty good. There's no

1771
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:54,560
nothing that stands out. Let's see.

1772
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:58,560
We'll obviously do a more

1773
01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:02,560
detailed analysis at some point before we just

1774
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:06,560
roll these out to everybody but that looks really good. Like is that

1775
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:10,560
on par with what you have now or is that like really good? Yeah.

1776
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:14,560
Yeah this is

1777
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:18,560
solid. I would like to, I know we're not Benchmarked

1778
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:22,560
but can I do an expert? Yeah I mean you could do whatever you want

1779
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:26,560
in this country. Actually no maybe just a render. Wait

1780
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:30,560
what? That's control right?

1781
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:34,560
Oh it doesn't have my keyboard shortcuts. Oh that makes sense.

1782
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:38,560
One sec. One sec. No

1783
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:42,560
no no no. Okay here we go. So what are you expecting

1784
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:46,560
for? Nothing. Okay cool. I'm not

1785
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:50,560
entirely sure what I should be expecting but it seems to be

1786
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:54,560
rendering on par with what we have at least. Okay.

1787
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:58,560
Yeah it's pretty good. Okay so if this could solve some of these

1788
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:02,560
stability issues that some of the other folks are having would you be

1789
02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:06,560
are we really seeing 90% usage of that RTX 5080?

1790
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:10,560
Oh yeah.

1791
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:14,560
There is a GPU optimized now. She's hungry. Yeah

1792
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:18,560
well yeah. She's a hungry boy. That's what I was saying. Oh my god

1793
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:22,560
we're using, we're capping out our memory. Yeah. Just about.

1794
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:26,560
Oh crap. Oh crap.

1795
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:30,560
I thought you knew this Linus. No I didn't know this. I thought the 5080s were going to be

1796
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:34,560
okay for the editing stations. Isn't there something higher than the 5090 though?

1797
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:38,560
No well no. No there isn't.

1798
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:42,560
Not that cost less than like $10. No there isn't.

1799
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:46,560
No didn't they call those Wattros before? No I don't know what you're talking about. The

1800
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:50,560
5100s. Oh man. Oh this

1801
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:54,560
blows. How many desks are in here?

1802
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:58,560
13. Dang it. Dang it. Lucky 13.

1803
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:02,560
This is because you put the panels on. Even at

1804
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:06,560
even at MSRP that's another

1805
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:10,560
$1,000 US dollars. And ain't nobody getting any 5090s

1806
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:14,560
at MSRP. How much did you pay $13,000? Yeah because one for

1807
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:18,560
every system. Are they even $100 bucks? Well they're

1808
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:22,560
two grand. Two grand. Nobody has an M. But

1809
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:26,560
$5080s a thousand dollars. Yeah so I'm talking the additional cost

1810
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:30,560
over the 5080. I have an idea. Look what you did Mark.

1811
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:34,560
Yo little jerk. What if you get two 5080s

1812
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:38,560
and then you got like, what is it called SLI? Yeah we don't have SLI anymore.

1813
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:42,560
NV Link? No NV Link anymore. Not on the

1814
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:46,560
consumer cards. So you need a monster case to fit two of those in there.

1815
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:50,560
Yeah no kidding. Oh this

1816
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:54,560
blows. Dang it.

1817
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:58,560
I mean it's workable. It's not going to be the

1818
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:02,560
end of the world. Yeah I don't want workable. I want good.

1819
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:06,560
You know? Yeah Apple is really. Oh yeah he's an Apple fan.

1820
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:10,560
We actually have a video coming out very soon.

1821
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:14,560
Linus switches to Mac for a month. And I believe it's probably going

1822
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:18,560
to be coming out this weekend. The shopping segment. And Mark

1823
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:22,560
was sort of our resident advisor to make sure that we

1824
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:26,560
picked the right Mac. So I ended up, dude I'm so upset.

1825
02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:30,560
So I ended up with a MacBook Air with an M3. And I think I went

1826
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:34,560
with 16 gigs of RAM which I think will be enough for me for mobile.

1827
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:38,560
So I want the Mac mini. The M4 Mac mini. Just this week

1828
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:42,560
Apple announced that they're doing first party refurb

1829
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:46,560
M4 Mac minis. I would have bought a refurb. Yeah yeah yeah

1830
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:50,560
M4 Mac minis? Yeah. Already? Already.

1831
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:54,560
What are you refurbing? Well I don't know exactly. But that

1832
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:58,560
concerns me because like how many Mac minis M4 Mac minis

1833
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:02,560
have been refurbished? No I think they're just

1834
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:06,560
selling a butt ton of these things. And I think that

1835
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:10,560
anytime you sell a butt ton of something, even if 1% of people don't like it

1836
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:14,560
if you sell a million of them that's 100,000 returns.

1837
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:18,560
So I think it's just a natural part of doing

1838
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:22,560
a high volume business. So with that in mind, like dude I'd have bought one of

1839
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:26,560
those no problem. I'd have totally saved a few bucks. So part of the premise

1840
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:30,560
is that I wasn't allowed to just shop for a Mac just by

1841
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:34,560
grabbing one out of our warehouse. I had to actually buy it after I settled on it.

1842
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:38,560
So I ended up cheaping out a little bit more than I would if I just grabbed whatever

1843
02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:42,560
I wanted. So would you be interested in moving to Mac minis or

1844
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:46,560
Mac studios? Yeah I wouldn't be opposed to it.

1845
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:50,560
I mean cost analysis here.

1846
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:54,560
Like Mac mini M4 versus

1847
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:58,560
like readily available. Okay tell me this, is there anything

1848
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:02,560
that you do that would benefit from having like a fatter

1849
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:06,560
because this is a way more powerful system than the Mac mini in any configuration.

1850
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:10,560
Is there anything that you do that would benefit from just more raw horsepower?

1851
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:14,560
Not now that we're off the red cameras.

1852
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:18,560
Okay but it's not like we don't still have them. If we pulled them out of

1853
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:22,560
mothballs for a project would you wish you had more power?

1854
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:26,560
I think, okay I hate to say this because

1855
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:30,560
you can never have too much power when you're editing.

1856
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:34,560
So it depends on what we're doing. So

1857
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:38,560
complex effects, layers and layers of animations

1858
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:42,560
it can really, or keying

1859
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:46,560
keying is another big one. Right. So whether that's for TechLinked or

1860
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:50,560
if in one we bring tech we key back. Yeah.

1861
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:54,560
If we do it much there's not many LTTs that call for it. Right.

1862
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:58,560
And we have the Ultimat now too that can handle that. So that does the keying

1863
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:02,560
in the box at the point of recording which is so cool.

1864
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:06,560
That was a smart acquisition by Blackmagic. That thing is so cool.

1865
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:10,560
So honestly I think this would be enough.

1866
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:14,560
This would be enough. Yeah.

1867
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:18,560
Oh sorry I was talking Mac mini versus this. Would you be happy to have the extra power

1868
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:22,560
of this? Oh yeah. I wasn't even talking about 5090. So do you think I could get away with 5080?

1869
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:26,560
Here's the problem. If we switch to Mac minis it would be a very

1870
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:30,560
contentious subject. We are as editors we are split

1871
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:34,560
pretty much 5050 Apple and PC users at home.

1872
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:38,560
And I know the PC users at home would be a lot more upset

1873
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:42,560
working at Linus Tech Tips with Mac minis.

1874
02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:46,560
That's true. The optics aren't the greatest. Okay that's fair

1875
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:50,560
that's fair. Alright well anyway thank you Mark for coming

1876
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:54,560
and sort of talking us through this. It looks like there's no obvious

1877
02:05:54,560 --> 02:05:58,560
game breaking issues at least here out of the gate. Other than that

1878
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:02,560
our VRAM usage is higher than I anticipated.

1879
02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:06,560
It's come down a little bit but come down now doesn't help me. I need it

1880
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:10,560
to be like if that's what we needed at the beginning of the render then that's what

1881
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:14,560
we need. So we may be seriously considering 5090s

1882
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:18,560
rather than 5080s. So alright thank you very much.

1883
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:22,560
Now since we're here I don't know should we fire up a game on it?

1884
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:26,560
Alright cool thanks Mark.

1885
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:30,560
Alright I'm just going to cancel that.

1886
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:34,560
It's very responsive. I know that's something that used to be a big issue on lesser

1887
02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:38,560
systems in particular with Premiere is like when you cancel something you take out hot

1888
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:42,560
minute to decide that it's ready to actually cancel. Man that is

1889
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:46,560
good. Lord is timeline performance ever smooth on a brand new machine

1890
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:50,560
these days. Sorry this is my first time touching it.

1891
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:54,560
That's that full res.

1892
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:58,560
4k please.

1893
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:02,560
Wow there's like no leg.

1894
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:06,560
That's pretty cool. Alright so was the idea that we would both

1895
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:10,560
game side by side on the system? Sure why not. In that case Dan do you want

1896
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:14,560
to just put some merge messages since we're just kind of killing time hanging out with these people right now

1897
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:18,560
anyway? Yeah sure I think that sounds like a good idea. Sure. Hello Linus and Dan

1898
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:22,560
with a huge gap between the 5080 and 5090 should I wait for the 5080ti

1899
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:26,560
with more VRAM? I'm coming from a 3080 10G

1900
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:30,560
and the need for more VRAM is

1901
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:34,560
scaring me that 16 gigabytes is not enough.

1902
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:38,560
I don't know if a 5080 class card

1903
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:42,560
with more VRAM is going to be in your future.

1904
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:46,560
That's the concern and you can really see

1905
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:50,560
how NVIDIA has strategically chosen 16 gigs.

1906
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:54,560
It happens to be the amount of unified

1907
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:58,560
memory in both current generation consoles.

1908
02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:02,560
Happens to be. So we're still at the point in the

1909
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:06,560
PS5 and Xbox would you like me to help you with that Andy?

1910
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:10,560
We're still at the point in the series and the PS5's

1911
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:14,560
life cycle where game development is probably

1912
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:18,560
not focused on a next generation PlayStation 6

1913
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:22,560
or Xbox whatever the crap they end up calling it. So

1914
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:26,560
NVIDIA knowing this knows that no game developer in their right mind

1915
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:30,560
is going to be targeting more than 16 gigs of memory.

1916
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:34,560
So there is no need for them to

1917
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:38,560
get in more. Yes if you wanted to crank texture resolution

1918
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:42,560
or if you wanted to run advanced features there could be a benefit to additional

1919
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:46,560
VRAM and we've seen that even today

1920
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:50,560
but there's no need and they're way more interested

1921
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:54,560
in pursuing things like AI compression techniques to bring down

1922
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:58,560
VRAM usage rather than putting more VRAM on the card because

1923
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:02,560
an AI compression technique cost them development time

1924
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:06,560
once more VRAM on the card cost them VRAM

1925
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:10,560
every single time they build a card so it's in their best interest to see if they can just

1926
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:14,560
develop their way around it. So with that in mind

1927
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:18,560
even if we do get a mid life cycle refresh

1928
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:22,560
unless it happens to coincide with like a new console

1929
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:26,560
generation which probably what two years, three years maybe? I think at least three years

1930
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:30,560
it feels like the current gen is like just getting its wings

1931
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:34,560
NVIDIA has no motivation to put

1932
02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:38,560
more than 16 gigs of RAM on. The 32 gig 5090 is obviously

1933
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:42,560
a budget AI play and an enthusiast play and is priced

1934
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:46,560
as such. The 5080 is the gaming flagship

1935
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:50,560
and they have deemed it thusly that 16 gigs is enough

1936
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:54,560
now AMD might come and be disruptive I think the word on the street is that the

1937
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:58,560
oh man what is this stupid thing called

1938
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:02,560
what's it called? 9070? What's the new AMD card called?

1939
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:06,560
9070XT. There's some rumors that it could be equipped with up to 32 gigs of RAM

1940
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:10,560
There's going to be a card that's in that class with 32

1941
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:14,560
not the base one. Got it. Is that confirmed or is that still

1942
02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:18,560
got it? Oh frame view. Oh yes

1943
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:22,560
but that doesn't help you if you're

1944
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:26,560
you want an NVIDIA card basically

1945
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:30,560
why am I reloading in the middle of the thing?

1946
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:34,560
Oh goodness I see. Is that 40 frames?

1947
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:38,560
No no no. Man we are

1948
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:42,560
actually surprisingly close. All things

1949
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:46,560
considered we are at the same settings I mean we're at 1080p anyway right?

1950
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:50,560
We're far past the point of dimension returns

1951
02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:54,560
Yep. Dude we were thinking of doing

1952
02:10:54,560 --> 02:10:58,560
like a 1000 FPS gaming PC you know getting like a 9800x3D

1953
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:02,560
come on over here come on get over here

1954
02:11:02,560 --> 02:11:06,560
Is it possible on modern competitive games

1955
02:11:06,560 --> 02:11:10,560
to get 1000? Well that was the question we were going to try and answer

1956
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:14,560
with like a tuned 9800x3D plus an RTX 5090

1957
02:11:14,560 --> 02:11:18,560
could we actually run at 1000 FPS?

1958
02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:22,560
It might be that you're helped out because I don't have any AI because it's a training session

1959
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:26,560
I have to do this before I can play or there's very few AI

1960
02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:30,560
Oh there's no AI

1961
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:34,560
This just isn't actually running that fast. I don't still have Premiere open in the background or anything do I? I don't

1962
02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:38,560
I don't know I was expecting more than 500

1963
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:42,560
FPS. Yeah is there something going on?

1964
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:46,560
Nope I just checked. Maybe I messed up the settings

1965
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:50,560
let's just double check. Sure yeah we can do that. Okay so video

1966
02:11:50,560 --> 02:11:54,560
could just be CPU bottlenecked man. Yeah maybe

1967
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:58,560
just check if you're actually 1080p maybe it's 4k somehow

1968
02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:02,560
I don't think so yeah 1080p. Advanced video. It should be medium except everything

1969
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:06,560
like let's just do it again so hit medium and then

1970
02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:10,560
turn off FSR at the bottom

1971
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:14,560
Wow that's default hey? I know it's crazy

1972
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:18,560
Man even in a competitive game

1973
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:22,560
upscaling techniques is really changing and I'm not sure

1974
02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:26,560
if I'm here for it. I'm gonna have to get on board because it's just a happening

1975
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:30,560
I don't hate it. I sit far enough away from my displays

1976
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:34,560
that I don't really mind it like I play I'm playing the Witcher 3 right now

1977
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:38,560
and I have FSR on. Interesting

1978
02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:42,560
I mean Ploof meanwhile is like militantly against it except

1979
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:46,560
in our recent videos looking at 4k and 8k gaming on the

1980
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:50,560
5090 there was one or two

1981
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:54,560
games that he was like I would turn it on

1982
02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:58,560
Really? No frame gen for him at least not yet but

1983
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:02,560
DLSS yeah there was a couple games where he at least thought about

1984
02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:06,560
it and one where he confirmed yeah I would turn it on. Which is

1985
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:10,560
if you know that guy it's a big deal

1986
02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:14,560
It's a big shift for him

1987
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:18,560
Well now we're just playing games and it's pretty on par. I think you might have a slight edge

1988
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:22,560
actually. Yeah I mean I should. Like right now I'm a little bit ahead but like

1989
02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:26,560
Given I'm running it. Yeah you are actually. I mean when we go to the same spot on the map

1990
02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:30,560
maybe that has a bigger difference than I realized. It's a non X3D. Yeah I don't know

1991
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:34,560
Do you want to come over here? Yep. Is a non X3D chip really gonna take

1992
02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:38,560
the AMD advantage away that much? It's possible

1993
02:13:38,560 --> 02:13:42,560
Oh my goodness I sucked

1994
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:46,560
Oh my goodness oh wow I just got

1995
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:50,560
That was embarrassing. He came all the way here just for nothing

1996
02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:54,560
That was embarrassing

1997
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:58,560
I'm about to run out of time

1998
02:14:02,560 --> 02:14:06,560
Alright don't worry I got this. I got my P-shooter

1999
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:10,560
Without AI we're pretty dang close

2000
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:18,560
Oh gosh darn it

2001
02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:22,560
I'm heading back toward you

2002
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:26,560
Are you just playing deathmatch?

2003
02:14:26,560 --> 02:14:30,560
That is so annoying

2004
02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:34,560
I understand why they do it because it can be really frustrating for more

2005
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:38,560
experienced players to have people drop in the match and just like think they're going to learn on the fly

2006
02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:42,560
Like you know have the bomb and not know how to plant that stuff

2007
02:14:42,560 --> 02:14:46,560
Yeah I just needed to kill that guy in case. Oh shoot okay I'm coming I'm coming

2008
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:50,560
Oh please don't make me with the whole round

2009
02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:54,560
This is embarrassing. Dan do you want to hand us with a merge message? Yeah sure

2010
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:58,560
As someone who is taking my first serious crack at switching from Windows to Linux

2011
02:14:58,560 --> 02:15:02,560
Have you ever considered a follow up on your covert era Linux

2012
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:06,560
Challenge and if not why? Yes we are going to do a

2013
02:15:06,560 --> 02:15:10,560
follow up to the Linux challenge once SteamOS goes gold

2014
02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:14,560
I'm so ready for it

2015
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:18,560
I'm going to die

2016
02:15:18,560 --> 02:15:22,560
Oh my goodness I'm coming back

2017
02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:26,560
Dan hit me again

2018
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:30,560
I forgot for you here

2019
02:15:30,560 --> 02:15:34,560
Will there be an HDD revisit for 2025 games maybe not just for 2024 hard drives but early

2020
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:38,560
SATA or IDE. My upgrade cycle for storage is when it dies

2021
02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:42,560
So my first non OS SSD was quite recent

2022
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:46,560
Oh interesting

2023
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:50,560
Man I don't think so looking at how

2024
02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:54,560
kind of dead hard drives are in the gaming space

2025
02:15:54,560 --> 02:15:58,560
I just don't think too many people I mean obviously you're asking for it

2026
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:02,560
but I don't think too many people are at this point

2027
02:16:02,560 --> 02:16:06,560
Stand on that barrel on the left and then look right at this pot

2028
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:10,560
Okay look at the pot

2029
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:14,560
Dude you are outperforming me

2030
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:18,560
By a significant margin I guess non X3D

2031
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:22,560
May not be the way to go for CS2

2032
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:26,560
Graphically demanding

2033
02:16:26,560 --> 02:16:30,560
What else did you have in mind for today? We can do some Alan weight 2 or we can do some cyberpunk

2034
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:34,560
Yeah let's fire up cyberpunk

2035
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:38,560
That seems like a good place to go okay Dan hit me

2036
02:16:38,560 --> 02:16:42,560
That's all you got oh sick okay cool we'll do cyberpunk and then we'll wrap it up

2037
02:16:42,560 --> 02:16:46,560
Let's see

2038
02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:50,560
Actually I don't even know how many people are watching

2039
02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:54,560
Look at the YouTube dashboard today

2040
02:16:54,560 --> 02:16:58,560
And it is not

2041
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:02,560
Oh that's the wrong stream that's still the 24-7 stream

2042
02:17:02,560 --> 02:17:06,560
Oh interesting

2043
02:17:06,560 --> 02:17:10,560
But the event still does in our event calendar

2044
02:17:10,560 --> 02:17:14,560
The way that you handle YouTube streams is

2045
02:17:14,560 --> 02:17:18,560
It's good it's a lot better than it was before but it's sort of unintuitive

2046
02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:22,560
Because you can either do it like Twitch where you just go live

2047
02:17:22,560 --> 02:17:26,560
Or you can have scheduled events

2048
02:17:26,560 --> 02:17:30,560
Your menu is outperforming mine

2049
02:17:30,560 --> 02:17:34,560
I mean sure

2050
02:17:34,560 --> 02:17:38,560
Yeah this wasn't specced out as a gaming system

2051
02:17:38,560 --> 02:17:42,560
But it's pretty darn good

2052
02:17:42,560 --> 02:17:46,560
And I'm actually going to lose some of my advantage of having a much more powerful GPU

2053
02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:50,560
Because of our HDMI switcher over here

2054
02:17:50,560 --> 02:17:54,560
Dan is there a reason that this thing couldn't do 4K? I thought this thing does 4K It does do 4K like we could try it

2055
02:17:54,560 --> 02:17:58,560
Oh okay I don't feel like

2056
02:17:58,560 --> 02:18:02,560
Throwing a wrench in the gears tell you what Let's do our comparison at 1080p

2057
02:18:02,560 --> 02:18:06,560
Then we'll try and run it 4K And if it doesn't work then it doesn't work

2058
02:18:06,560 --> 02:18:10,560
I think we do yeah ray tracing overdrive is still going to be challenging enough with no DLSS

2059
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:14,560
Oh dude ray tracing overdrive will be super challenging

2060
02:18:14,560 --> 02:18:18,560
Ultra no DLSS Ultra no DLSS?

2061
02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:22,560
No frame gen And then just everything as it was

2062
02:18:22,560 --> 02:18:26,560
Window border list or?

2063
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:30,560
Yes I believe so Oh can we go full screen?

2064
02:18:30,560 --> 02:18:36,560
I know it doesn't matter anymore Did you put low latency?

2065
02:18:36,560 --> 02:18:40,560
Oh I didn't turn on reflex I don't think On with boost enabled?

2066
02:18:40,560 --> 02:18:44,560
Sure Which marker just play?

2067
02:18:44,560 --> 02:18:48,560
Oh yeah I want to play We'll just find a kind of similarish area

2068
02:18:48,560 --> 02:18:54,560
We'll drive around or whatever Coffee Loki says PC not good enough

2069
02:18:54,560 --> 02:18:58,560
I don't think they're actually referring to these

2070
02:18:58,560 --> 02:19:04,560
Spend more money I'm going to ride my 3090 until I die

2071
02:19:04,560 --> 02:19:10,560
Brandon the IT guy in Floatplane chat asks Is there a Linux distro for video editing?

2072
02:19:10,560 --> 02:19:16,560
Not that I'm aware of And it's less to do with the distro or lack thereof

2073
02:19:16,560 --> 02:19:20,560
And more to do with the tools or lack thereof

2074
02:19:20,560 --> 02:19:26,560
Black magic is doing a good job of supporting it But to my knowledge none of the other major players in the space

2075
02:19:26,560 --> 02:19:30,560
Have shown much of an appetite for Linux

2076
02:19:30,560 --> 02:19:36,560
Are you going to try and get to the exact same spot as me? Because I don't really think that's necessary

2077
02:19:36,560 --> 02:19:40,560
Yeah I'm already outperforming you by a pretty significant margin

2078
02:19:40,560 --> 02:19:44,560
You're at like 70 FPS and I'm at like 90

2079
02:19:44,560 --> 02:19:48,560
Oh I dropped down a little bit But you're also dropped into the 60s now

2080
02:19:48,560 --> 02:19:51,560
I feel like where you are is harder to run than where I am

2081
02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:55,560
But I don't know the map well enough to be able to get around

2082
02:19:55,560 --> 02:19:59,560
The 3090 to the 4090 was a big jump in performance

2083
02:19:59,560 --> 02:20:03,560
So if we were looking at this 5080 versus a 4090

2084
02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:06,560
Then it wouldn't be that impressive

2085
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:10,560
But looking at it compared to the 3090

2086
02:20:10,560 --> 02:20:14,560
You can go from the workstation slash enthusiast card of that generation

2087
02:20:14,560 --> 02:20:19,560
To the gamer card of this generation and expect a performance uplift honestly

2088
02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:24,560
Not enough though If I had a 3090

2089
02:20:24,560 --> 02:20:28,560
I would just run this at 75 FPS rather than going for the extra 15 FPS

2090
02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:33,560
I don't think it's an upgrade It's a big enough boost that you'll really have a noticeable experience

2091
02:20:33,560 --> 02:20:37,560
With that said if I could get a 5080 for MSRP

2092
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:40,560
Knowing that I can sell my 3090 for a lot

2093
02:20:40,560 --> 02:20:43,560
I could probably almost do it as a cross trade

2094
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:47,560
So if my priority was just gaming

2095
02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:50,560
It's true you don't need that extra VRAM

2096
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:55,560
I'd rather have the raw performance than the VRAM at that point

2097
02:20:55,560 --> 02:20:58,560
Likewise for gaming For just gaming Yeah I agree

2098
02:20:58,560 --> 02:21:03,560
And let some AI tinkerer have that 3090 and use that VRAM for what they're doing

2099
02:21:03,560 --> 02:21:07,560
Yep So that's a totally valid option

2100
02:21:07,560 --> 02:21:11,560
I mean both David and I are very PC of theseus people

2101
02:21:11,560 --> 02:21:15,560
So we're always kind of thinking like Oh what can I sell from my rig

2102
02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:18,560
And then acquire and kind of optimize as we go

2103
02:21:18,560 --> 02:21:23,560
But a lot of people are not like that So I totally understand too if you have a 3090

2104
02:21:23,560 --> 02:21:27,560
And you're just looking at your machine going is it still good enough The answer is yep

2105
02:21:27,560 --> 02:21:33,560
If you don't feel like making any changes But I've found that kind of staying on top of things a little bit

2106
02:21:33,560 --> 02:21:37,560
Has been the best value way to get the most out of my system

2107
02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:41,560
Yeah there's kind of a weird transition period where the old stuff is still really high value

2108
02:21:41,560 --> 02:21:46,560
Especially now Yeah exactly GPU transitions are so weird

2109
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:49,560
Not at all like they used to be

2110
02:21:49,560 --> 02:21:52,560
Okay I'm ready to try 4K

2111
02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:55,560
What do you think Dan is this gonna work Yeah it should

2112
02:21:55,560 --> 02:22:00,560
Oh I can't even select it Oh Are you gonna have your desktop set to 4K

2113
02:22:00,560 --> 02:22:03,560
Or do you

2114
02:22:03,560 --> 02:22:06,560
I don't know I didn't think so Usually you can

2115
02:22:06,560 --> 02:22:09,560
Yeah I can't change it Oh maybe the Yep

2116
02:22:09,560 --> 02:22:13,560
Is there a mode selection on this thing that's like

2117
02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:17,560
I don't even know if it is capable of doing It is that's definitely it can do 8K

2118
02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:20,560
Oh dude this will do 4K 120Hz Yeah it's like a

2119
02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:24,560
Well this is like a high end matrix Oh yeah I'll fiddle with it

2120
02:22:24,560 --> 02:22:27,560
Shut up No I don't think we need to fiddle with it It's okay

2121
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:32,560
Maybe pro edge I think what we're gonna do is hey hey Thank you guys very much for tuning into the stream today

2122
02:22:32,560 --> 02:22:37,560
There's definitely some things we like about this configuration

2123
02:22:37,560 --> 02:22:41,560
But as you heard from Mark Our editing team is very divided

2124
02:22:41,560 --> 02:22:44,560
On the subject of PC versus Mac

2125
02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:50,560
And if we stick with PC There's a chance that we're gonna end up going 5090

2126
02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:53,560
Maybe we'll do an update on Floatplane

2127
02:22:53,560 --> 02:22:57,560
We'll get you guys a look at the final system Otherwise maybe we'll do a stream

2128
02:22:57,560 --> 02:23:01,560
And we'll build a bunch of the final systems And we'll hand deliver them to our editors

2129
02:23:01,560 --> 02:23:05,560
In the editing den on the other side of the wall See you later guys