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Yeah, so if you hate Austin Evans, you will hate this.

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Legally, we do have to be a little mean to it.

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I was going to say F tier just because Mark Zuckerberg.

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Yeah.

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We got our S tier. We got our F tier.

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Don't know enough. I don't know if there's going to be a lot that's don't know enough.

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Maybe the phones. I don't know anything about phones and smartwatches.

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So this is like the stuff that's come out this year.

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What is, what is, where does it rank?

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So that's the Alienware QLED or OLED?

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QD OLED. This is a QD OLED panel on an Alienware monitor, right?

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Alright, first we got the Alienware 3423DF and I know because I have this monitor.

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QD OLED's really good. I want to put it in S tier.

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I was kind of thinking that as well. Like that's the best monitor of the year, isn't it?

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Pretty much. You can argue about 4K and what not, but purely for gaming this is like the best monitor to buy, basically.

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This was a pretty category leading product when that first launched.

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So I'm saying we should put it in A. What do you think?

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Yeah, I mean I like it. I think the price is a little higher than I'd be willing to spend on it,

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but it's one of those things where a couple years down the road, and I'm going to say this for a lot of things,

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a couple years down the road, if price is reduced and I can get it on the used market, it's going to be a buy.

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Don't get me wrong, it's a good price and for me, color fringing is a big issue.

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Okay, we'll give you that. So for productivity, it's not a great solution.

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If you're only in gaming and content consumption and you don't care about super high refresh rates, go for it.

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Listen, everyone was praising it. I'd probably put it in C tier, but when they're 2, there was a cheaper one that's better.

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Yeah, this one likes to have the white stand, so it's the more expensive model.

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If it was the cheaper model, I'd still put it towards like A to B.

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The tech behind it is S tier quality, but the price is still so far out of reach.

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I thought it's an amazing price. That's what he's saying.

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Well, in Canadian dollars, it's like what, I think four to five hundred dollars cheaper, which is substantial,

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but we also have broke monies compared to America. Next, we have the, I'm guessing this is the 7900 XTX?

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Yeah. You're the AMD guy. It's B tier. It's a good card.

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Even B tier, it's a good card. It's better value than anything NVIDIA is offering, but it's still very expensive.

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But on the other hand, it's where a high end, if you're talking about price, it's where a high end card should be.

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It's in the thousand dollar range. But I like ray tracing.

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This has ray tracing. In theory. In theory.

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Not even in theory. In theory, it has ray tracing cores.

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They just don't have proprietary NVIDIA special magic.

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But I want it to run well. Yeah, that's the hard part.

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But the pricing is very competitive. I think B makes sense. Yeah.

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For what it is. A tier? B.

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B. It's still expensive. My expectations were S tier and then it launched and it was like...

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They hyped it up and the performance, I was hoping for like just 10% better than what it was.

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I was hoping for like 20, 25% more.

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Like they normally hype their stuff up and then over deliver and this one they hyped it up and just...

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And then under delivered. Yeah. Okay, I'm okay with B tier as well.

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The XTX, I mean, the GPUs are going to be so controversial.

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Because the problem with GPUs right now, it's like even the one that's the best buy is still like a hard pill to swallow.

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I don't know. I'm saying somewhere between A and B.

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What do you think? I'm thinking it's a B tier.

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They've reinvigorated AMD's offerings.

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I feel like we're starting to look at AMD more as...

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We're not all team green all the time anymore.

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So that's real nice.

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All right, let's chuck it in there for now. We'll see what else we come against.

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Maybe we'll have to move it. I don't know enough. Okay, so Hor says he doesn't know anything.

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Makes sense. What do you think of it?

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I almost want to put it A just for telling NVIDIA to stop overpricing things.

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It's more than enough performance than what you need unless you're like, I don't know.

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You know what? We'll go B tier here as well because it's still really, really good.

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I'm scared everything's going to get in the B tier. But like, it's the pricing.

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It could have been better for the price because like AMD thought they were going to be the savior, but then they weren't.

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The 7950 XT or whatever? Yeah.

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Okay. It's fast. It's fine.

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It didn't like really get me going. Maybe B?

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I'm okay with putting this in A only if we then put the 1300K there in S tier.

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Because I still think that 13th gen is crazy.

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B then. B then? Okay.

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That's fine. My question is what did the 7000 series really do that the 6000 series didn't eventually?

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DDR5. DDR5? Is that pretty much it?

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It definitely, it beat Alder Lake.

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I think it beat the 5800X3D in many ways.

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Maybe not every way.

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But then by the time Raptor Lake comes out, Raptor Lake is more compelling by in some ways as well.

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So this is definitely not S tier. It didn't like crush everything, but it was good when it, A to B I would say.

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It's still good. It's good. I'd stick it in a B.

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I want. Okay.

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We have to consider the stuff that's coming. We do.

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Okay. We'll put it in B for now. Let's put A.

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Sure. A lot of the issues in my opinion with the 7950X is it doesn't make sense to upgrade to the new platform.

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If you're, unless you have to do a platform upgrade anyways.

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If you're already on AM4 and say you're on like a 2600 or a 3000 series CPU, just upgrade to 5000 series.

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But if you're going to upgrade your whole computer, this is a great, great option.

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It's not the best option, but it's cheaper than the 1300K.

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And if you're doing productivity work, it beats the 1300K or matches it.

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And with the price drops that they've put across the entire lineup, it ended up being, it's not a bad buy.

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I have a 13th gen Intel. So I'm not putting this in S tier because I want my investment to look stronger.

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So yeah, we want to get that brand identity up for that value.

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Are those bad? Like, I remember they were trying to do 4K gaming or something like that.

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The processor was just like killing everything.

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Like, I remember Ploof being stuck here for days trying to deal with the processor.

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F tier. Oh. Oh my God.

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Hello there. It might not even have been the same chip.

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No. So I would say, I don't know, like it's still really, really good.

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Let's put it above A just to sort it out.

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Oh, there you go. Something for you. The Apple Studio?

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Is that what that is? Which one is this? I don't know.

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Don't know enough. Do you know anything about Apple products?

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I think it's like pretty good. I've heard it's good.

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I just don't know. A water cooled one. How'd that go?

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It went pretty well. Oh wait, but it doesn't, if the fans disconnect, it won't tell you and instead will just throttle itself.

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So let's put it in C tier. Oh, C tier. Yeah, 100%.

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Okay, so Apple Studio. I have an M2 MacBook Pro and, or sorry, M1 Max.

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And I think the M series that they've kind of moved on to here is great.

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Studio though? No, that's a C tier at best.

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Right? I feel like Apple does best at portable items.

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I don't know. It's overpriced.

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It's anti-consumer. Like it.

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These things are pretty damn expensive.

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A pretty boring form factor. Not like a very cool redesign.

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It doesn't even look like a cheese grater. I don't know.

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What do you think of this? So the Mac Studio is an interesting one to me because it's not something that I would buy now,

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but five years down the road, which is when I would buy Apple products five, six years after release.

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I think this could be a really interesting unit.

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I think the Mac Studio has a lot of potential down the road for what has already been released.

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And maybe as a form factor, it's boring.

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Maybe there's not a whole lot you can do once you get inside of it.

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But if things continue to progress with it and eventually, I don't know,

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a hacker space builds around it to some degree. Are you happy with B?

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I think I'm happy with B. It's between C and F.

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I would give it a C tier because it showed us that the Apple Silicon is great for laptops,

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but they haven't figured out desktops. We figured that we learned that.

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That's here. It doesn't come with a stand. It doesn't come with a stand and you can't take the cable out.

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Realistically, this is a really nice display. It's just really expensive, but those are valid complaints, so I'm okay with this.

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We got the studio display. Oh, F tier. F.

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Yeah. It is a good display. It was nice, but it was a complete misfire in terms of features.

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Again, anti-consumer. I heard the sound of things bending, and it did not come out.

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Okay.

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It pulled out. I just had to give it a good two-hander.

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And I felt the frame flexing while you did that, to be clear.

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It's clearly not designed for that to happen.

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Terrible support. I believe it had some sort of weird driver issues.

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It's a weird, not natural resolution.

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It's an unnatural resolution.

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You're not finding this in nature, so that's an F tier. No, and it's massively overpriced for what you can get.

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This thing was overpriced. That's studio display.

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When you bought the studio plus the studio display, that was just so much more expensive

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than the all-in-ones that they previously... It was like they split that product up just to charge you more.

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It's a good product. Freaking cable.

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The power cable is not disconnectable.

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I've never seen somebody purchase a studio display with their own money.

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I'm going to put them in the seat, but they're nice.

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They're nice, and they're good at using it before you lose it.

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Yeah. See? I can't see.

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Okay, here's why. If you're going to get one, get a refurbished one.

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That makes it a little bit more manageable in price. There's a lot now, I think, in the refurbished store.

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Oh, yeah. But not only that, but when this thing first came out,

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we were watching the keynote, and we were sitting there, and there was four of us gathered around Horst's computer,

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and it was right outside of Linus's office back in the day.

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We're sitting there, and we were like, which one do we buy?

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Oh, yeah. We had to choose simply for the fact that there was Glossy and Matt.

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There's three stand options in Glossy and Matt.

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Yeah. We bought three.

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So we're sitting there, and we're like, okay, you could buy all the choices, or you have to limit yourself.

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So we went with, I think it was Glossy on a regular stand.

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Glossy regular, Matt with a fancy stand, and then a Glossy base amount.

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Why? The annoying thing was they all had different delivery dates.

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And that, too, they announced all of these different things,

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and it's like, okay, you're only slapping it on a stand or not slapping it on a stand.

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But I wanted to just say that they have been happily deployed

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around the office to lucky users.

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All right. We got the Apple Watch Ultra.

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I really like wearables. So I have a fossil HR, like, hybrid watch,

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and I've had most of the Apple Watches. The battery life on this thing is nuts,

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but it's way bigger than you think. Yeah, do you want it?

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It's huge, and it's not comfortable. If you're a diver or whatever, it's a good overall device,

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but it's not excellent at any of the things it does individually.

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking, because they really pushed a lot of the,

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like, oh, it's like a life alert thing. Oh, it's like a diving computer.

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I was like, but is it better than just the diving computer

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or just an active health mode? So if you really do all of the things, this is probably a good option,

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but if you do one of them. If you're planning on diving and or getting into a car crash,

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this is the one for you. I'd still put B, though, because it is still very cool.

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It's still the best smartwatch you can get. So it's just not the best active device you can get.

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It's marketed towards being able to do all these extreme activities,

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but no one who does those extreme things is going to buy this watch.

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They're going to buy the more niche specialty watch for that thing that they do.

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Unless you're a total generalist and you're like, I dive and I trail run and I run in the desert and I mountaineer

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and this can do it all. And I don't mind having this heavy thing on my wrist while I run for 20 hours,

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which seems unlikely. Like, who the hell? This is really just a statement piece for people who have a lot of money.

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So I'm putting it on a C, I think. What do you think?

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I know nothing about watches, smart or otherwise.

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I don't like wearing jewelry in general on my wrists.

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All right. Makes me feel weird. I think that's eight here.

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Okay. I'm down high. It doesn't look sick.

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It's too expensive. It does look cool. Yeah.

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If you're willing to spend the money. I want to put it as an F. Really?

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Because unlike most watches where, you know,

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there's a nice little bezel underneath, like it perfectly fits to your wrist.

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That... I don't know. I'm not wearing it.

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This is just a... Oh, okay. I was going to say that monstrosity is so big that it plateaus across your wrist.

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What? Do you want to put it in eight here? No, I wouldn't put it that high.

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It would be no higher than B. No higher than B.

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You're doing great Apple. Okay.

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There's no other Apple products here. There's some stuff that we could have covered,

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but it's not in here. So, I just want to let you know this is by...

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Ianeo Air. I don't know a ton about this one.

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I feel like a lot of the Ianeos have been really for,

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like, easy to forget. You can forget an Ianeo,

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because they've had a couple releases this year, haven't they?

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Well, they were really compelling product lines, same with their 1x players until the Steam.came out,

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and the deck was just so much cheaper. How much does this thing cost?

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Yeah. Yeah. I think given its position in the marketplace now,

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you've got to drop it down to, like, a C. Yeah, and that's something that I don't feel like it's going to get support long-term.

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I think Ianeo, or... Yeah, Ianeo is the actual company name, right?

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No, it's just Aya. It's just Aya? Yeah.

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I think Aya is going to eventually just quietly demote their support for it

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as time goes on, because they tend to release products.

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I don't know anything about handheld PCs. I have a Steam Deck, and that's good enough.

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I'm Mr. Short Circuits. I've watched a lot of these be filmed or Linus talk about them,

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but I don't actually really know anything about them. My understanding is that it's more expensive...

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Well, that's an F, then. ...and less... and about similar in terms of power,

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and it's Windows.

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Which is great in some ways, but doesn't have the level of support,

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especially in both the community and from the developers,

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and, like, software support. Like, Valve is providing...

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Valve provides so much software support,

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and there's a massive community around the Steam Deck that Ianeo just hasn't been able to get.

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And there's so many Ianeos. Yeah, I don't even know which one this is.

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I know it's an Aya, but a... And honestly, if I don't know what it is, it kind of scares me,

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so I'm going to have to put it in after.

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The air. The air. See, we didn't even know that, so...

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Aftershare. I did the video for these. It's good, but it's not using the 6800U.

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It's using the, like, 5600U or the 4800 even.

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I can't remember it, but it's not as good as...

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Do you think C or B tier?

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For the... I'm torn.

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I would like to put it in, like, a C+, so C tier, then, I guess.

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How much more is it than the Steam Deck? It's more expensive.

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Yeah, C tier. C. Okay.

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So this one is still a handheld gaming machine, and it's great for the feature set,

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but the price is still too high because... How much is it?

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It's, like, probably another $1,000 over the Steam Deck,

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depending on your config. A thousand dollars over?

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Yeah, so, like, a Steam Deck starts, like, it's down there. It starts at, like, I think 499 American or 399,

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and then it goes 499 and then, like, 599. Like, it's no more than, like, $700 American for the Steam Deck.

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Whereas these things from I and Neo can be, like, upwards to, like, $1,700 USD.

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But they do have full-size M2, which doesn't really matter,

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because people like Sabrent are making M.2 in the 2230s.

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You're going C because of the price. The Xenon Flex?

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You did the video on that.

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I think it's stupid.

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It's a cool monitor with a party trick, but the party trick costs, like, $300.

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I'm going to put B, because it's still a really nice display.

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Sure. And it's only $300 more than, like, a similar monitor,

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but it's still, like, $300 for that one ability to curve.

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It's so stupid. Well, I'm going to have to, we have to do C then, because I think this is very cool.

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Have you used it? Yes, I have. So I was in the B-roll shots for the video,

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and we did a ShortCircuit on it before it released. I think it's rad.

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I would actually use this. What about it seems rad?

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I don't know. You can bend it with your hands.

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That's cool. That's the only thing?

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It also looks good. The IO in the front is cool.

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It has terrible, it's too big for the resolution it's at.

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If it was a 4K display, I would entirely change my opinion.

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Yeah, but can you flex other monitors? I don't need to flex another monitor.

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Sorry, can you answer the question? Can you flex other monitors? No.

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Well, I can, but they'll break. No, it's not C-tier.

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It's a bad purchase. It's way too expensive. It has terrible pixel density.

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B-tier. No. Listen, if you really want to, we need a D-tier, Arthur.

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Now picture this, okay? It's an OLED monitor.

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It's 45 inches across, and it can go flat or curved.

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F. F. No, that's so cool.

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No, it looks ugly. But it's actual bends. This is not what I want for monitors.

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If this is an A, then the studio displays an S.

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Oh, that's the flex. Oh, this is any on flex?

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I think this is pretty cool. It's a cool form factor.

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It's innovative that you can move it. It's a cool entry from Corsair who doesn't have a lot in the monitor space.

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I'm really glad it exists. I'm pretty sure it's high refresh rate, too.

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It's a pretty good product. I know so little about this that I don't feel right commenting on it.

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The only thing that I really know about it is that whole flex mode,

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because everybody does this motion when they're talking about it.

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Honestly, it's not a feature that excites me. I feel like I said it before.

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No, no. It's going to be something where you're like, hey, want to see what my monitor can do?

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Check this out. Oh, and then you're never going to move it when somebody's not watching.

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It's a gimmick. It's a total gimmick.

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Well, we'll see. I'm giving it A to B.

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Okay, S22 Ultra. It brought back the S pen.

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No. No. I mean, I'll give you an A maybe if you really want to be like that.

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It's still Samsung phones, no matter what, are still too damn wide.

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Go the Sony route and go tall and thin.

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No, just make small phones. Or just make small phones.

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Even the S22, I'm holding it thinking of trying to upgrade for my S10,

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and I'm just like, I don't want to go wider than this thing,

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but I have to, and I hate that. I forgot it came out, F tier.

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I agree. I don't know anything about it. Why'd you kill the notes?

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The notes were my favorite Samsung phones for a while. I appreciate that they brought back the pencil as a pack-in.

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It is the fact that nobody has talked about this phone since it's come out,

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says something about how where Samsung is right now.

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They're not really pushing anything in an interesting way. I don't have one, so I don't know.

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Yeah, no clue. Don't know enough. S22 Ultra, I know nothing about this phone.

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I know nothing about it either down there. Yeah.

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Galaxy Watch 5. F tier. Why?

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Why? I don't know anything. Every wearable that's not an Apple Watch is garbage.

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Isn't as good? Yeah, okay. They're pretty damn good.

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I focused more on the Pixel Watch this year, and I would say this is probably just like, this is a standard,

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it's a very good choice,

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but I don't think it has a lot of wow factor this year,

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but I don't know a lot about it. And this is just for both, right?

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It can't be higher than an Apple Watch Ultra,

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because it has... It's got Wear OS.

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So F? Does that has Wear OS? Yeah, you can put it in C.

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Or remove them both up. What?

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This is an interesting... Turn of events.

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Because like, it's great. There's actually a decent watch that can do Wear OS.

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Samsung, no more of your software. I hate it.

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Okay, so we put the 7900XT up in B tier.

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So does that mean that the 3900K is A tier? I guess so.

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What would bring it to S tier?

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Better price, I think. Fair. Yeah, that's fair.

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I don't know. It's still expensive. It's not as expensive as this, but it's still expensive.

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It's A tier though, in my opinion. It's really solid.

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Overclock's really well. It's very fun. Memory controllers suck though.

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I think that's what makes it not S tier for me. Yeah, that's fair.

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Now we got Intel My Investment. 3900K.

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I think it's going to go up in the A tier as well, but I'd be put it higher in the A tier than Ryzen.

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Yeah, it goes actually here. Yeah, because it's a better CPU, but it's still,

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it's still part of this whole computer price creep that we've been in.

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Yeah, we can't be too nice to Intel. Like, legally, we do have to be a little mean to Intel.

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Yeah. Seeing the i3 and i5s being able to,

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in a much lower power, actually outperform Xeons of just a few years ago

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is really neat. And then we've got the i9, which is not bad by any stretch,

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but it's still like that higher TDP.

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And I don't know, it hasn't really grown on me yet.

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I think the most fair thing to do is put it on the same tier as the 7950X.

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It's all I need a watch to do.

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Aren't those good? Wasn't that a surprise that they're efficient in new Intel chips?

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Oh, yeah, they're efficient. They're actually cool.

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They're not boiling over. Wait a minute.

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How did the AMD processor get to A tier?

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I don't know. I thought it was based on price because it is still a little cheaper.

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But it's not very efficient. No, they're still. And when you try to do AK gaming, it's a nightmare.

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Okay, so we will go like this.

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Yeah, yeah. Switcheroo. Oh, the A770.

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Half tier. You can't buy them.

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They're garbage. You can't buy them? No, they don't exist.

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Oh, my God. They're always sold out and you can't run Halo on it.

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Yeah, that's pretty rough.

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F, wow. I mean, what do you think?

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I think it's a pretty competitively priced product.

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It's new. There's growing pains, but I'd put it in C.

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It's about as good. It's, listen, the launch of it went about as good as I could have ever hoped.

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Did you watch our live stream? Yeah, I know it was garbage.

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It was terrible. Like it went so much better and things have already improved massively.

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It's still not perfect, but Intel's still pretty young.

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Oh, this is rough. This might be F tier. It's F or C.

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A770. They really bungled the launch.

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The whole future of the enterprise is cast in doubt.

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We don't know if there's going to be Celestial or if they're going to stop with Battle Mage.

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They did that big update with the DirectX9 stuff, so like it is working better now,

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but it's still not anything you can recommend to a mainstream gamer.

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This is like you better be ready to tinker. It's not really anything you can recommend.

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Yeah. So you don't know enough.

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That's fair. Isn't it bad?

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It's not bad. It's great for what it is.

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What about for the price? It's like $300 bucks US.

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It's so cheap compared to these thousand dollar cards that it's like...

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It gets people in the door. Picture this.

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You're like a mom and you're trying to buy something for your kid for like Christmas.

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So you get them in Intel Arc. You could at least get them in Intel Arc.

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In years of pain trying to get the games to work.

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I didn't say you had to like the kid.

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Oh. What's this? An iPhone 14 Pro?

00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.000
Pretty iterative.

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Let's have a look. Yup.

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I am an island boy. I think it's a B tier.

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There's so much time talking about the dynamic island in the presentation and there's no good features for it.

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:53.000
And some of the stuff is really stupid. Like the fact that...

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It has a 14 Pro. Yeah. I've been using it lately.

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It's like, oh cool. It's showing like it plays stuff, right?

00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:03.000
When you tap it, it opens the app. But if I long press it, then it's the widget.

00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:08.000
That's what I want it to do all the time. I want it to be quick tap, then the widget.

00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:11.000
If I want to open the app, I'll just open the goddamn app.

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Either way, I think it's a good phone. It's a 13 and I actually don't think it's much better.

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I actually might agree with you. The island's cool, but I can see it being a C.

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Ooh. Here's your iPhone. That's a 14 Pro.

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Yeah. It's got the dynamic island. S tier just for the island.

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No, no. I wouldn't put an S tier. Just for the island.

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Probably A though. A or B. Because like, I like the feature of the dynamic island.

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I just don't know why it had to be reserved for a pro. Why couldn't they just do that from the start?

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Why is that not across the internet? You're telling me. It's always, it's pretty depressing.

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I've heard it's good. I did the launch video on this. I think we can put it in B tier because they didn't screw anything up, but they also improved

00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.000
it in ways that just make it better for you. Okay.

00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:58.000
Sure. I think we can put it in B. All right.

00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:03.000
Logitech G Cloud. I don't really know enough about it.

00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.000
It's kind of different from the other handhelds being a streaming device.

00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:09.000
I don't know anything about it other than the fact that I don't think it makes sense for

00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:13.000
the price. Logitech G Cloud.

00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:17.000
Surprise some people. I'm going to say that's a C too.

00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:20.000
And then is this the Logitech G Cloud? Yeah.

00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:25.000
Okay. Linus didn't end up hating this as much as he thought he would, but that's all I know.

00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:30.400
C tier maybe. Okay. I think it's still too expensive, but I kind of want basically this exact thing just for

00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:39.960
like a hundred dollars less. I want it in F tier quite simply because I am angry about like gaming, streaming, server

00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:49.600
services, and that whole idea. I think it's absurd. I am too, but at the same time I pay for Game Pass Ultimate, so I already have access

00:26:49.600 --> 00:26:52.600
to those games. Fine. Great.

00:26:52.600 --> 00:26:56.760
The thing I hate about this is that you have to stream all of the time.

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You can't look at it. What's the point? Like, there's this sort of weird thing with like the way our internet or like our technology

00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:11.840
is developed, or it like requires the internet to do things that are like so simple and fundamental.

00:27:11.840 --> 00:27:17.280
And gaming streaming is like the most egregious example of that where they've gone just too

00:27:17.280 --> 00:27:22.480
far thinking like, yeah, everyone's got an internet connection enough to stream a, you

00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:31.200
know, a video stream constantly. This is an efficient use of resources, like it's just so, but like, it's like you have

00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:35.760
this portable device, right, that you can only stream games on.

00:27:35.760 --> 00:27:40.000
So it's tethered to the internet, so it immediately reduces the portability of it.

00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:43.520
Quest Pro. What's the Quest Pro? I don't know enough about VR.

00:27:43.520 --> 00:27:48.560
It's the new, but this is the expensive one, right? They out the price by like $1,000 or something.

00:27:48.560 --> 00:27:54.320
I want to put it in F tier just because of the price hike. I was going to say F tier just because Mark Zuckerberg.

00:27:54.320 --> 00:27:57.320
Yeah. That's it. MetaQuest Pro.

00:27:57.320 --> 00:28:00.480
Isn't that an F? Isn't it like, has the worst software in the world?

00:28:00.840 --> 00:28:06.320
No, the software gives avatars legs now. So you can go to your work meeting with legs.

00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:09.640
Like it's just F, F, F.

00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:13.040
F for all things meta except for whenever the Quest 3 comes out.

00:28:13.040 --> 00:28:16.120
F, F. It's not a mass market product.

00:28:16.120 --> 00:28:19.760
I haven't used it myself. You might understand it's pretty impressive.

00:28:19.760 --> 00:28:24.720
And usually people hating are kind of like, they're hating on the whole concept of Metaverse.

00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:30.040
I would, I think I call this a B. I think it's a good product on its own.

00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:35.320
I can't wear VR glasses for whatever reason, like between.

00:28:35.320 --> 00:28:42.000
Don't have a forehead. Well, I mean, I've got, I've got some forehead happening, but it's like, I can never get

00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:47.160
it right so that I can wear it without my glasses on and then just pushes my glasses

00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:54.680
against my face. So it's never really been a thing for me. But yeah, if I was going to docket points for anything, it would be the whole concept

00:28:54.680 --> 00:29:03.480
of Meta and the internal Facebook idea of projects being MMH for Make Mark Happy.

00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.720
I don't want to defend Facebook. This thing is pretty darn cool though.

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.160
I love, love, love VR. I've had almost every VR headset.

00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:13.360
This looks great. Like when you put it on, it feels great.

00:29:13.360 --> 00:29:18.160
The operation's great. It'll be like, hey, you need to adjust your headset because we can just tell like you're

00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.560
not getting the sharpest like picture because it uses the inner camera.

00:29:21.560 --> 00:29:24.560
So like see the IPDs you should have. Very cool.

00:29:24.560 --> 00:29:28.760
Compared to our battery life, $1,500.

00:29:28.760 --> 00:29:32.640
The battery life is nuts.

00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:40.840
For me, I want to just give a shout out to Meta for using the pro moniker in a actually

00:29:40.840 --> 00:29:46.960
correct way. It's a, they specifically targeted professionals.

00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:50.040
It's actually a pro device.

00:29:50.040 --> 00:29:53.680
And the price reflects that because it's supposed to be bought by your business who wants you

00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:57.000
to, I don't know, have a $1,500 desk.

00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:01.360
Because like when you compare the price to like the Valve index, that was like $1,200,

00:30:01.360 --> 00:30:04.360
wasn't it? Yeah. So like $300 more.

00:30:04.360 --> 00:30:08.040
And this does a lot more than that headset. Except for stay on. Yeah.

00:30:08.040 --> 00:30:12.040
Well, I mean, just. It's the battery. Oh no, the index is not wired.

00:30:12.040 --> 00:30:17.560
No, it's wired. So really, this is. Can you, and this one can just be plugged in the whole time?

00:30:17.560 --> 00:30:23.200
I think it's a CRB. I think it took a lot of flak when it came out.

00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.880
I'm going to put it in B because like the sound quality, the mic quality, if you've

00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.040
actually used it and like VR, it is very good.

00:30:30.040 --> 00:30:33.040
It's just. It's really comfortable. It is.

00:30:33.040 --> 00:30:36.040
Oh, the nothing phone. Bell really liked it. I think.

00:30:36.040 --> 00:30:44.800
I don't know anything about it. I know nothing about it. I bought the earbuds and I have two of them, both of them I've had to repair with tape

00:30:44.800 --> 00:30:50.880
and CA glue. So I think we can just put an F tier based on my experience with the brand.

00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:54.520
How long have you had those headphones? Six months.

00:30:54.520 --> 00:30:57.520
Oh, that's bad. You should not have to put them in that quickly. Yeah.

00:30:57.520 --> 00:31:00.520
And they price-hiked them too. Oh my God. Okay.

00:31:00.520 --> 00:31:05.960
I haven't gotten to use the nothing phone, not because I haven't wanted to. I just didn't win that at the company Christmas party.

00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:09.480
I really wanted to. It seems like it does some interesting stuff.

00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:12.600
I really just can't really comment. I think I want to put it down here.

00:31:12.600 --> 00:31:17.280
Yeah. Otherwise, I'd probably be putting it in a CRB because it's at least compelling enough

00:31:17.280 --> 00:31:24.020
to make me want to buy it like now. It's such a height-beasted device that I want to hate it more, but it's...

00:31:24.020 --> 00:31:27.740
I've used it. Yeah. So I took it for like a week and used it because I really liked it.

00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:33.940
I was going to buy it. I'm all about just the look of the phone. The RGB, the lighting I should say, not RGB, looks great.

00:31:33.940 --> 00:31:40.180
Using the phone is not great. It's like too simple. I'm an iPhone person, so maybe it's just part of it because of Android, but I found stuff

00:31:40.180 --> 00:31:44.100
like hitched a little bit because it's only a mid-range CPU.

00:31:44.100 --> 00:31:47.540
And like because there's just so much lacking in the phone, there's sometimes where you

00:31:47.540 --> 00:31:51.740
just go to do something that just doesn't really happen. It's also way bigger than you think.

00:31:51.740 --> 00:31:56.540
It's like a plus-size phone, which I'm not a huge fan of.

00:31:56.540 --> 00:32:00.060
And I don't know. It looks really cool, though, and people would ask me about it all the time.

00:32:00.060 --> 00:32:04.300
So I'm really excited for their second one, but this one's kind of like okay.

00:32:04.300 --> 00:32:08.660
Yeah. I think I'm really looking forward to a nothing flagship type device.

00:32:08.660 --> 00:32:11.660
Yeah. Because I'm going to give it a B because it looks great. Yeah.

00:32:11.660 --> 00:32:14.660
We're going to give it a S. Sure. That's a...

00:32:14.660 --> 00:32:17.780
Oh, nothing phone. That's the nothing phone. B.

00:32:18.780 --> 00:32:22.020
Almost A. It's right in there. If there was an A minus...

00:32:22.020 --> 00:32:25.540
It's really cool. It's like the designer's phone. It is.

00:32:25.540 --> 00:32:28.540
It's like I actually care about what I... You know what? A because of how...

00:32:28.540 --> 00:32:34.460
Because it's the designer's phone. It's also an A because it's like it's finally something different than just a boring glass

00:32:34.460 --> 00:32:39.020
bag. I want notification LEDs back, and this is the closest we're getting.

00:32:39.020 --> 00:32:43.220
RIP Blackbird. The 4090.

00:32:43.220 --> 00:32:46.300
It is.

00:32:46.300 --> 00:32:49.340
To me, it's a C at best. A C at best.

00:32:49.340 --> 00:33:03.740
I think between the QC issues with starting fires and the size and the insane power usage,

00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:07.900
it could be the most powerful graphics card on the market, and it is, and that doesn't

00:33:07.900 --> 00:33:14.660
make up for those things. The only time I can see anybody really even needing this right now...

00:33:14.660 --> 00:33:17.980
Okay, needing. Getting it. Go ahead.

00:33:17.980 --> 00:33:21.460
Is if they're doing rendering, because right now it is the best rendering graphics card.

00:33:21.460 --> 00:33:25.980
Even the Quadros can't touch it, which kind of makes you wonder why are we even making

00:33:25.980 --> 00:33:30.460
Quadros, but... I feel like we should put it as a B.

00:33:30.460 --> 00:33:36.980
All right. It's like, in some ways it's an S, in some ways it's like a D.

00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:43.820
It's the most expensive thing, but it's also kind of the best thing, and I guess we've included

00:33:43.820 --> 00:33:47.700
prices in our judgments. But...

00:33:47.700 --> 00:33:55.780
Is it better than an XTX7900XS? Like by numerically, yes, unless you're playing Call of Duty.

00:33:55.780 --> 00:34:00.260
It's the only, like, I put in the S tier.

00:34:00.260 --> 00:34:03.420
S tier. It's like the... Wow.

00:34:03.420 --> 00:34:10.260
S tier. Wow. It's zero compromises, and it doesn't compromise on price.

00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:13.420
And it can rage race.

00:34:13.420 --> 00:34:18.500
I don't know, it's a crazy piece of engineering with a ridiculous price, but one of the things

00:34:18.500 --> 00:34:26.820
that I've been so annoyed about hearing is people being like, how dare NVIDIA not let

00:34:26.820 --> 00:34:30.340
me buy their stuff or, like, make something that's too expensive for me.

00:34:30.340 --> 00:34:33.740
It's like no one's getting mad at Lamborghini. Why are you calling me out like this, man, you know?

00:34:33.740 --> 00:34:37.580
Like, Lamborghini sold a $100,000 vehicle.

00:34:37.580 --> 00:34:41.700
I can't buy that. What is a driver supposed to do?

00:34:41.700 --> 00:34:47.660
It's like, don't buy it. Common section, just know I don't have the same feelings when you're putting angry comments.

00:34:47.660 --> 00:34:50.780
It's just Adam. It's just Adam making fun of people. Just buy it.

00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:53.780
Just buy the graphics card you can afford. S tier just for the price. I hate NVIDIA.

00:34:53.780 --> 00:34:58.740
And I hate NVIDIA. I hate them so much. They suck to work with.

00:34:58.740 --> 00:35:07.340
That's a tough one. It's really fast. It's only, okay, everyone hates the price, but the $30.90 was only $100 less at MSRP two

00:35:07.340 --> 00:35:14.820
years ago. So that's about inflation. I also don't hate how expensive it is.

00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:19.940
It's the Halo flagship product. Yeah, I'm okay with Halo cards being stupid.

00:35:19.940 --> 00:35:25.660
But I really hate that the $40.80 isn't almost as fast for $800.

00:35:25.660 --> 00:35:28.660
That's the problem. A tier? A tier?

00:35:28.660 --> 00:35:35.180
Yeah. Yeah. If it was like $200 cheaper, I'd be tempted to put an S tier.

00:35:35.180 --> 00:35:38.460
If the $40.80 was better, it would be S tier.

00:35:38.460 --> 00:35:43.140
Well speaking of can't afford this, Samsung Odyssey Arc. What a miserable fail.

00:35:43.140 --> 00:35:46.140
What? This thing is cool. No, it's not.

00:35:46.140 --> 00:35:51.380
It isn't a picture-in-picture with the HDMI-Z plug-in, though. It's terrible with everything it's supposed to do.

00:35:51.380 --> 00:35:57.900
It fails at being a good TV. It fails at being a good monitor because it doesn't like, it like fails at being picture-in-picture

00:35:57.900 --> 00:36:02.540
because you can't actually have, it doesn't actually do proper dual displays.

00:36:02.540 --> 00:36:07.740
My Samsung Odyssey G9 does that properly, where it acts as like two separate monitors.

00:36:08.020 --> 00:36:11.460
So we're saying it's worse than the Flex. Yeah.

00:36:11.460 --> 00:36:16.420
Wow. I don't know a lot about it, but it just kind of seems big and gimmicky.

00:36:16.420 --> 00:36:21.340
It's huge. I don't think they're going to sell that many of them. It's kind of oppressive, I guess.

00:36:21.340 --> 00:36:25.140
It has smart monitor features too, didn't it?

00:36:25.140 --> 00:36:28.140
I think so.

00:36:28.140 --> 00:36:34.020
But I can't really remember. We're going to drop it down here just because it's like, it's just kind of irrelevant.

00:36:34.020 --> 00:36:40.340
It's kind of like the watch ultra. It's like, it's cool, but people probably shouldn't buy it.

00:36:40.340 --> 00:36:45.020
That one's cool, but it's just too cumbersome for me. Maybe beef just because it's funny.

00:36:45.020 --> 00:36:49.700
I'm sorry. Otherwise it's an F.

00:36:49.700 --> 00:36:54.340
It's just egregious. Actually, maybe C then. Because of just its egregiousness.

00:36:54.340 --> 00:36:58.060
It's so stupid, but it's funny. It's overpriced. It's oversized.

00:36:58.060 --> 00:37:02.860
It's over-curved, but it's damn hilarious, especially that one frame where Linus is like...

00:37:02.860 --> 00:37:07.940
Yeah, it's ridiculous. I honestly want to, okay.

00:37:07.940 --> 00:37:13.300
If it could do picture-in-picture or picture-by-picture on the one connect box that it has with the

00:37:13.300 --> 00:37:20.220
four HDMI 2.1 inputs, I would say this is S tier, but it can't.

00:37:20.220 --> 00:37:25.460
The only way it does the alternate pictures in the mode is with using the different apps.

00:37:25.460 --> 00:37:30.920
So you can't plug in three computers to it or whatever. Yeah, but who uses that, realistically?

00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:36.020
This is the monitor to use it on. It's enormous.

00:37:36.020 --> 00:37:40.860
The product photos of it just being over someone, it's amazing.

00:37:40.860 --> 00:37:44.660
I think that might take it to S tier. I'm okay with that.

00:37:44.660 --> 00:37:48.500
This thing was unique and it's very cool, so I'm okay with putting it up there with

00:37:48.500 --> 00:37:52.740
the Alienware. That's the sort of thing where in 10 years people will make a video being like, oh my

00:37:52.740 --> 00:37:55.940
god, I got the all the CR. Totally, totally.

00:37:55.940 --> 00:38:00.900
Pixel 7 Pro. Well, the Pixel 7 did really good in Marquez's test.

00:38:00.900 --> 00:38:07.260
So it got... With the camera? Well, no camera, yes, but they actually got what, phone of the year, MVP of the year for

00:38:07.260 --> 00:38:10.260
phone test? What? Nice.

00:38:10.260 --> 00:38:13.260
So, but that's not the pro. The pro adds money. It's a fun story.

00:38:13.260 --> 00:38:21.340
When I was writing about the Apple, sorry, the iPhone 14 Plus, it costs the same as the

00:38:21.340 --> 00:38:24.500
Pixel 7 Pro, so that was the camera I compared it again.

00:38:24.500 --> 00:38:29.380
I put it B tier because I want them to bring back actual physical fingerprint readers

00:38:29.380 --> 00:38:32.820
on the pixels. I hate underscreen fingerprint readers.

00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:37.100
I actually just had a conversation with David about this and apparently the 6a has the

00:38:37.100 --> 00:38:43.980
better camera. Oh, yeah. Marquez did a video and like everyone liked the 6a's camera more.

00:38:43.980 --> 00:38:47.380
Not the selfie camera, but...

00:38:47.380 --> 00:38:50.900
I feel like we should put it in B just beside the iPhone.

00:38:50.900 --> 00:38:53.900
That's fair. Yeah. Hey.

00:38:53.900 --> 00:38:57.340
Yeah, man. Don't they have like backlash shattering issues that just came out?

00:38:57.340 --> 00:39:01.900
Yeah, that happened this morning. And there's like buggy stuff with the software on every Google phone.

00:39:01.900 --> 00:39:05.140
It's always Android and Google though, so I guess how much do we excuse that?

00:39:05.140 --> 00:39:09.380
And if you want to move the iPhone up to BL, I think that's fair.

00:39:09.380 --> 00:39:12.900
Okay. Are we going to move to Samsung? No.

00:39:12.900 --> 00:39:15.900
Yeah. I think Samsung maybe should move up. Let's see.

00:39:15.900 --> 00:39:19.100
I legitimately know nothing about the Pixel phones. I know quite a bit about it.

00:39:19.100 --> 00:39:25.620
It's kind of iterative. I think it has the same camera sensors last year.

00:39:25.620 --> 00:39:31.180
It might have a slightly better tensor chip than last year, so it's like better at talking

00:39:31.180 --> 00:39:37.020
to it and transcribing in real time and stuff. I think I'd call it a B.

00:39:37.020 --> 00:39:41.020
Pixel watch? G-Cloud is what I don't know enough.

00:39:41.020 --> 00:39:45.020
C or F? It's a C. The battery life, the cracking.

00:39:45.020 --> 00:39:51.740
Yeah. It's just... But it's redeemed by being the second-best experience for a smart device that isn't

00:39:51.740 --> 00:39:54.900
an iPhone. The bezels? Because I was going to say it looks good, but...

00:39:54.900 --> 00:39:59.620
It's the second-best Wear OS experience behind the Samsung.

00:39:59.620 --> 00:40:08.420
And then it's like... But if we're doing just smart watch tier lists, it's like every iPhone, every Apple watch,

00:40:08.420 --> 00:40:13.220
and then Android. F tier. If it's not Apple.

00:40:13.220 --> 00:40:18.740
Good first entry, old SoC, resulting in not great battery life.

00:40:18.740 --> 00:40:22.060
I'm going to call that a B.

00:40:22.060 --> 00:40:25.060
I don't know. I've never tried it. I'm going, don't know.

00:40:25.060 --> 00:40:28.060
It's a good size. I'd have to put it with the other one. Yeah.

00:40:29.020 --> 00:40:32.020
It doesn't have like some things that you can't do on it because it's limited.

00:40:32.020 --> 00:40:39.340
Some things you can't do on it. It's only limited to the one size. The one size is kind of small for like the average male, honestly.

00:40:39.340 --> 00:40:42.860
There needs to be a pro version. Oh, the flip. I...

00:40:42.860 --> 00:40:47.540
Okay. I want to put this in like A or B at least because I really love flip phones still, even

00:40:47.540 --> 00:40:50.540
though it's like dumb. Yeah. It's cool.

00:40:50.540 --> 00:40:54.980
I mean, it's the sort of thing where like I would never buy one because it's too expensive.

00:40:54.980 --> 00:40:59.180
Yes. If I was given one, I would absolutely love it.

00:40:59.180 --> 00:41:02.180
I think A tier is good. Yeah. I'm down with A tier.

00:41:02.180 --> 00:41:05.180
Yeah. Then what's this guy, the fold? B tier maybe.

00:41:05.180 --> 00:41:08.180
Sure. It folds the wrong way. It folds.

00:41:08.180 --> 00:41:11.180
Yeah. It's not like the flip. Yeah.

00:41:11.180 --> 00:41:20.540
I hope that they release something with a bigger cover screen. I think that this is like, this was kind of a quiet year for foldables, at least from

00:41:20.540 --> 00:41:24.700
Samsung. The Z Flip 3 and the Flip 3 were both like really big improvements.

00:41:24.700 --> 00:41:33.020
Yeah. I mean, I think it and the Z Fold 4 were both kind of iterative and I don't think they

00:41:33.020 --> 00:41:38.820
changed much. So I'm kind of tempted to just like put them there. This is Austin Evans' favorite phone of life.

00:41:38.820 --> 00:41:41.820
Wow. Congratulations, Austin. Yeah.

00:41:41.820 --> 00:41:44.820
So if you hate Austin Evans, you will hate this. What's your choice?

00:41:44.820 --> 00:41:48.820
No. Just kidding.

00:41:48.820 --> 00:41:52.540
I think flip phones are cool. I think flip's are better than fold. That's probably...

00:41:52.540 --> 00:41:55.540
Oh, really? I think flip's are better than fold.

00:41:55.540 --> 00:41:58.540
I don't know.

00:41:58.540 --> 00:42:04.820
I feel like it depends on who you are, because the next one is the fold, so we're gonna have

00:42:04.820 --> 00:42:11.140
to discuss that anyway, but like the idea of the fold, the fold is more dynamic and

00:42:11.140 --> 00:42:19.740
more flexible. You have two devices and two levels of capability, whereas with the flip, it's more about compact

00:42:19.740 --> 00:42:27.980
and portability and a little bit of like a throwback to the old flip phones of your.

00:42:27.980 --> 00:42:32.420
Which were great. They were great, yeah.

00:42:32.420 --> 00:42:38.060
But like if you want to think about the future versus the past, I feel like the fold represents

00:42:38.060 --> 00:42:42.020
the future, whereas the flip is more... So what?

00:42:42.020 --> 00:42:46.260
That would be considered... I like getting concerned that that might be the S tier, one of our choices.

00:42:46.260 --> 00:42:52.060
I don't think it is. The reason why is because the Xiaomi one is way better, because it's actually as thin

00:42:52.060 --> 00:42:55.060
as a regular phone. Okay, fine. Put it in.

00:42:55.060 --> 00:43:00.380
Okay. And then the Steam Deck. That's gotta be up here.

00:43:00.380 --> 00:43:04.740
So I feel like the Steam Deck's not quite an S, and I want to make an argument for this.

00:43:04.740 --> 00:43:12.380
Let's hear it. Using the hardware that they did to keep costs low, the Nintendo model of making hardware

00:43:12.380 --> 00:43:15.460
essentially is great.

00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:25.980
I don't hate that, but it's kind of lacking in staying power.

00:43:25.980 --> 00:43:32.860
The hardware on it is weak enough where in a year's time, games that are coming out won't

00:43:32.860 --> 00:43:39.740
be running as good. In two years time... But the resolution's so low.

00:43:39.740 --> 00:43:43.540
You don't think it'll be able to run for a few years at least?

00:43:43.540 --> 00:43:49.380
It might have a couple of years. It depends on how long we're waiting for the next one to come out.

00:43:49.380 --> 00:43:52.380
Okay, here's an argument for being S tier though.

00:43:52.380 --> 00:44:00.620
Is it so disruptive? This is definitely the biggest, like, C changer in this whole group, I would say.

00:44:00.620 --> 00:44:06.420
Like, it's kind of just negating other products like the Ionio.

00:44:06.420 --> 00:44:12.940
It's kind of changing everything. It's even impacting how games are designed, like it's got that whole like Linux aspect

00:44:12.940 --> 00:44:17.540
to it. Yep. I do like it for that.

00:44:17.540 --> 00:44:23.580
I do like that it's finally moving Linux gaming forward at such a fast rate.

00:44:23.580 --> 00:44:27.820
Not that it wasn't moving forward before, but just...

00:44:27.820 --> 00:44:30.820
It's night and day. Yeah. I feel like...

00:44:30.820 --> 00:44:33.940
I also just feel like we gotta put something up there. Yeah.

00:44:33.940 --> 00:44:38.060
And if it's gonna be between that and the Alienware, I guess it's gonna be the Steam Deck.

00:44:38.060 --> 00:44:41.060
And now the Steam Deck. S tier. 100%.

00:44:41.060 --> 00:44:46.100
I have one. I love it. It is a fantastic device.

00:44:46.100 --> 00:44:51.940
It made me start playing games again. Yeah. I was like, oh, gaming, I'm getting a little burnt out, but once you get this and like

00:44:51.940 --> 00:44:57.700
the portability, I was playing Fallout 4 on like really high settings on the plane with

00:44:57.700 --> 00:45:02.020
mods and I was with a controller attached to it and I was like, this is awesome.

00:45:02.020 --> 00:45:09.860
Like an actual console experience wherever I go. It's an absolutely like paradigm shift and I think how people are looking at gaming.

00:45:09.860 --> 00:45:16.900
It's something that's come up in so many discussions. I listen to a lot of like gaming podcasts and stuff like that.

00:45:16.900 --> 00:45:20.660
And there's this whole category of people being like, it's a great Steam Deck game.

00:45:20.660 --> 00:45:26.180
And it's people taking a new look at portable gaming, which is a section that kind of was

00:45:26.180 --> 00:45:33.420
killed by the phone because your phone became as powerful as your like DS and stuff like

00:45:33.420 --> 00:45:41.900
that and then it didn't really matter anymore. But now it's changing it and it's giving us this access to this wealth is absolute insane

00:45:41.900 --> 00:45:47.140
amount of games. I think it's really right. And I think it's at the very least A tier.

00:45:47.140 --> 00:45:52.220
I don't think it's S just because like, I don't know, man, the battery life.

00:45:52.220 --> 00:45:56.780
I don't know. I might be willing to give it S tier because think about how much optimization there has

00:45:56.780 --> 00:45:59.940
been for Linux gaming because of this. That's actually true.

00:45:59.940 --> 00:46:03.540
It has really pioneered a lot in the Linux space as well as the handheld space.

00:46:03.540 --> 00:46:06.740
Like a lot of people are really trying to compete with the Steam Deck now.

00:46:06.740 --> 00:46:11.740
So just for the competition's sake, I yeah, okay, I'm down because the Steam Deck probably

00:46:11.740 --> 00:46:17.900
is S tier. I would say is the S tier one because yes, it's huge.

00:46:17.900 --> 00:46:21.220
But what are you getting with it? You're getting so much value in it for its price.

00:46:21.220 --> 00:46:24.620
You know, you're either paying for a Switch OLED or paying for this.

00:46:24.620 --> 00:46:27.620
Yeah. Sure. It doesn't come with the dock.

00:46:27.620 --> 00:46:34.900
Like the switch does it. Can I play beam ng on that? I will play, but like it's like 30 to 60 on the medium, but you could play it.

00:46:34.900 --> 00:46:46.460
You'll be on the page. Tell me if you can play beam ng.

00:46:46.460 --> 00:46:50.580
Just for fun.

00:46:50.580 --> 00:46:50.700
Yeah.
