1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,600 Dude, I think I gotta stop impulse buying stuff the forum sends me. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:11,600 That's probably a good idea. I mean, on the one hand, who could resist the idea of doubling their environmental chamber testing capacity for such a low price? 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,400 On the other hand, oh my god, it's huge! 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:22,000 Did you guys know it was this big? Roughly. I knew it wouldn't fit under the fume hood we have. We'll see if it fits inside. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,500 Oh, this is gonna go well. That's as close as they can get. 6 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:29,300 How are we supposed to move it once it's off the... like, can our forklift move it? 7 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:33,500 No, not even close. I see. How are we moving it? 8 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:39,000 That's a wonderful question, Linus. We're thinking maybe we drop it in the parking lot and then rent a forklift. 9 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:56,200 I sincerely hope we didn't just buy someone else's garbage. 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,600 It's apparently been stored outside for almost 10 years. The driver thinks it'll work on our little car dollies we have. 11 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,000 They're good for about a ton and a half each. So he's gonna try to kind of back up, wiggle it into the doorway, 12 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,000 and then we'll plant it onto those dollies and kind of hope for the best. 13 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,100 How are we gonna get it off the dollies? That's future problem. 14 00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:19,000 We can probably test our existing environmental chamber inside of this one. 15 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:26,300 I was thinking it didn't look that big. And I was thinking, hey, I mean, a low ball bid can't hurt, right? 16 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:29,700 We only paid 1,300 bucks for it, I think? Something like that. 17 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:33,500 So bottom line, we're paying a tenth of what we paid for our existing environmental chamber, 18 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:37,300 even including the delivery. But we haven't fixed it up yet. Here's the issue. 19 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:42,400 While the seller does believe it to be in working order, it certainly isn't in working order right now. 20 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,800 All of the refrigerant was drained years ago and replaced with an inert gas, 21 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,400 and it has been stored idle for almost a decade outside. 22 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,100 We use our current environmental chamber for testing products that are sensitive to changes in temperature 23 00:01:56,100 --> 00:02:00,000 or humidity like power supplies or anything with a battery, 24 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200 as well as to conduct wacky science fair experiments. 25 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,600 It's been great. The only issue is that sometimes it's a little bit on the small side, 26 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:13,100 and since we only have one, it can be a bit of a production and testing bottleneck. 27 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:17,500 I really don't know if that was the solution though. This is the plan. 28 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:21,400 That's the plan. That's our best plan. 29 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,800 Were we able to find an MSRP on this? Not so far. 30 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,400 The company's been sold two or three times, and so we only have a generic service manual. 31 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Oh, no. Well, really? Yeah. Do we know what year it's from? 32 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,000 2008, I think. Good year. 33 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Solid year. Do we have a plan for when this is up and running, 34 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,500 or are we assuming nothing for now? I was kind of assuming nothing. 35 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:49,000 I wasn't, like, planning any projects for next month or anything. I think the plan is, the line is, bought this thing now, what? 36 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,900 It's amazing how many things have that plan around here. 37 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:55,100 Someone work out that TV wall, phenomenal. 38 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:58,200 Right? Phenomenal. This, maybe. 39 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,300 I'm one for something. 40 00:03:01,300 --> 00:03:05,900 What did we pay for the other one? I think that one was somewhere between $30,000 and $40,000. 41 00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:09,400 Okay. So we would have to spend an awful lot refurbing this thing 42 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,400 before we would be behind the eight ball on it. Do you know how much the gas costs? 43 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,700 No. Oh, is the gas really expensive? One of the gases we have to buy is $4,000. 44 00:03:17,700 --> 00:03:21,300 Shut up. We have to buy a whole cylinder. That's just the gas, not their time to fill it. 45 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:24,500 Why do we have to buy a whole cylinder? I don't know. That's not Alex's question. 46 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:31,000 Because that's all, that's the lowest amount they'll sell it in. The techs have the easier to get gas, but they don't have this one. 47 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:37,800 This one, they have to get from, like, a specialty supplier. And the supplier will only sell it in full tanks. 48 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,000 Oh, okay. But we could sell the partial tank after. 49 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Maybe, unless we use it all. I think the tank's five kilograms. 50 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,400 So we might need more than one tank. We might, hopefully not. 51 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,900 The other one is 15 pounds worth of refrigerant. That one? No, no, no. 52 00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:54,300 Oh. This is two-stage, so it has... It's two-stage? 53 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:59,600 Yeah, it's got two different refrigerants in it. Okay, I knew absolutely nothing about it other than, 54 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,100 seems like a cheap environmental chamber. So does it go, like, lower in temperature? 55 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:06,200 I think it's negative 177. So... Shut up. 56 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,700 Really? I think. What? 57 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:16,000 It's not going to fit under here. No, it really isn't. I mean... 58 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 No, it really isn't. Does it do humidity control as well? 59 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Do you know? It must. It takes plumbing as well, so it's water. Okay. 60 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,400 So it must do. Oh yeah, yes, paper and plumber too. Could, like, I get inside it? 61 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,700 Oh, definitely. I imagine, yeah. What about you? 62 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:36,900 I couldn't stand it, but I could probably fit in there. The size is one standing Linus or one folded Lucas. 63 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:42,200 Oh my God. So that display interface on the side is cooked, hey? 64 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,500 I haven't really looked. You know, do you really need to stand on a curb next to me? 65 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:48,900 I'll take a knee. It's bad enough as it is. 66 00:04:55,900 --> 00:05:00,800 This may be the point where I start questioning the choice. I mean, at the price, it seems so obvious, 67 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,000 but clearly nobody else bit above this. Yeah. 68 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,700 I said don't fit more than it's worth in scrap metal, so... 69 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:11,500 Okay, nobody told me that. They weren't kidding. 70 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:12,600 That was the plan. 71 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,400 How much you want to bet that display doesn't work? Oh yeah, there's no way. 72 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,500 How are we going to get replacement parts? That's a you problem, isn't it? 73 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:29,200 No. Damn. I think he's going to lift this just the end up and scoot it in. 74 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,500 Oh, we've got a forklift here now. Those, the pallets, like, 2x6s is I think. 75 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:37,200 I just noticed the pallets made of 2x6s, I think. 76 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,400 They're just shredding. Just... 77 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,300 This is ridiculous. So it seems what they're trying to do is 78 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:50,600 lift her up a little bit with the forklift to take enough strain off of those little rollers 79 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,500 that we can get it over the lip. I don't know if it's going to work. 80 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:58,300 There we go. Oh. It worked. 81 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:09,600 Oh, okay. Putting the cables up against the thing in front of the bay door was a strategic choice. 82 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:16,300 I thought it was an accident before. I feel like we may have been better off with the rollers in the middle to 4x4s. 83 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:20,200 Maybe I should say something before we completely unstrap it. 84 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,900 Right now, the pallet is bowing in the middle. 85 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:29,800 Would we be better off taking the rollers and putting them on the middle 4x4s? 86 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:36,900 Uh, I mean, maybe. Well, I just mean if the whole idea is that these rollers are going to lift the thing, 87 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:40,500 then we might as well put them in a position where they're not going to... 88 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:44,100 Yeah, because we're going to have to run to forklift to get this thing off anyway. 89 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:47,600 Because I just think it might roll a lot easier because we'll have the mass over the rollers. 90 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:53,800 Yeah, no, I think you're right. Okay, cool. As long as the pallet survives being lifted one more time. 91 00:06:57,700 --> 00:07:01,200 Wait, wait, wait. It's not in the right spot over there. That way. 92 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:08,200 It turns out supervising is a job. Yeah, I think now the pallet is more off the... 93 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,700 It's off the ground now because it was getting hung up in the middle there. 94 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:14,800 And that's it. We're kind of dragging. 95 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,900 Oh, Alex. I think this bent. 96 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:22,100 Like, I just don't think it has the weight anymore. Oh, yeah. 97 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:26,400 Yeah, the car dolly totally just bent. Yeah, that's why. I mean, should we... 98 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,900 Should we look at it? That's a satisfying handle, hey? 99 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:38,700 What the... It's like a baseball. 100 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:41,800 I like the two-man lift logo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 101 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,900 Yeah, two-man lift. This panel. Yeah. 102 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:57,700 So here's our fans that blow through the evap. 103 00:07:57,700 --> 00:08:02,600 And then it comes out like this. This seems to be humidity control. 104 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,600 They kind of look like sprinkler heads or something. 105 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:11,100 Well, time for us to do some learning. I like that you cut reusable straps. 106 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:15,900 Oh, what? Okay. So she's a little beefier than the old one. 107 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:20,900 Oh my God, this is going to be a hell of a project. Like, all that plumbing for sure has to come out. 108 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:24,600 Look at it. Look at the color of it, Lucas. 109 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,100 You know, all things considered though, it's not that rusty. 110 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:33,400 Oh, gross. Yeah, the plumbing has to come out for sure. 111 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:37,800 Oh, here's another access panel. Pressure gauge. 112 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,100 I know what that is. Moisture release thing. 113 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:45,200 Those are, I can't remember the name, but they are magnetic 114 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,900 and they start and stop flow. Ah, I appear to be tethered. 115 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:52,200 No one leaped to my aid at once. You didn't ask for help. 116 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,300 Okay, cool. Ah, you have got to be kidding me. 117 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:59,900 Are these the compressors? Holy crap. 118 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:04,400 The compressors themselves have cooling fans that ask 119 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,300 for freaking 208 volt, 1.3 amp. 120 00:09:08,300 --> 00:09:12,100 The compressors have 250 watt cooling fans. 121 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:16,400 Freakin' what? Okay, there's got to be a heat exchanger in here somewhere. 122 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,500 Oh, fiberglass, yuck. Okay, a little rusty, a little dusty. 123 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:25,300 Condenser water inlet. Oh, the whole thing is liquid cooled. 124 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:28,600 There's no, there's no like air cooled fan condenser. 125 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Like, I don't, I don't see one. So there's, there's the water inlet. So the plumbing is not necessarily just 126 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:38,200 for humidity control, it's for cooling. So we are going to have to have like a cooling tower 127 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,700 or something. Wait, do we still have a bunch of those big radiators 128 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:46,700 and those like server rack things? Yeah, we do, yeah. I mean, we're going to have to figure out what kind 129 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:52,900 of capacity we need, but oh boy. This right here is my condenser for which one? 130 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:56,600 Oh, maybe it's both. Broad strokes, I think I figured out the flow path. 131 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:02,400 That back there is our first stage compressor. It's cooled by this liquid cooled condenser 132 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,300 that we're going to have to have water hookups to this chamber in order to operate. 133 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:10,600 That cools through this heat exchanger right here, 134 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,800 the hot side of my second stage compressor, 135 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:19,200 which is over there. That guy uses this giant effectively reservoir 136 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:26,600 to store the gaseous refrigerant when the system isn't running. Wait, huh, it's also when it is running. 137 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,500 It's kind of complicated. The accumulator also plays a crucial role 138 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:34,900 in preventing liquid from entering the compressor in the first place. You should just check out our recent video 139 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:39,300 about the three stage children if you want to learn more. All right. 140 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:42,400 The cold side of that boy comes right up here 141 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,000 and goes, there we go, into the evaporator 142 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,400 inside the chamber. So the operating range was what, negative 77 to 170? 143 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,900 She's not as fast as our existing chamber, but a big part of the reason for that 144 00:10:53,900 --> 00:10:57,700 is the internal volume has got to be six-tip 8x, 145 00:10:57,700 --> 00:11:02,700 the other one, so we could easily test like a large system in here. 146 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:06,300 If we can get it working, boy, are there ever a lot of little parts 147 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:10,600 that are looking rusted shut. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong about any of this, you guys. 148 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,400 I know just enough about the refrigeration cycle to be dangerous. You'll have to get a little taller. 149 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,100 Wolf? Come on, there we go. 150 00:11:18,100 --> 00:11:25,700 Oh, well, that was anticlimactic. Are these the motors for the internal fans? 151 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,600 575 volts, two amps. 152 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:35,200 These are 1,000-watt fan motors. About a horsepower and a half. 153 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Each! Z-Arc. Oh, look at the size of those guys. 154 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,900 Oh, there's a PC in here. There sure is. 155 00:11:44,900 --> 00:11:48,300 What are the flipping odds that that works? 156 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:51,800 Windows Vista Business Edition. Found the keys to the city. 157 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,900 You got a Dell. Dude! Same thing as the bottom, though. 158 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:59,400 There's far less corrosion in here than I expected. It must have been at least under cover outside. 159 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,800 This seems like probably the way to do things. 160 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,300 Oh, my God, there's a lot of time back here. Wait, is that a RAM stick? 161 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:10,700 Old-timey automation? The f**k is this? 162 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:15,300 Oh, Jesus. Okay, this is another computer. What about second computer? 163 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:18,300 Why, you're in the schematic here. I'm what? 164 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:22,500 You're in the schematic. Oh, stop it. L-S, small. 165 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:25,900 Wait a second. Jordan, you hooked up the Dell? I did. 166 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:28,900 I mean, dude, if you're going to get a Dell, you got to know if your Dell works, right? 167 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:32,100 Exactly. So this looks like an old Celeron. Vista Business. 168 00:12:32,100 --> 00:12:36,100 And most of the interaction with the computer stuff here is all serial. 169 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:39,100 Okay. Dan by LED is on. 170 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:43,300 Yeah. That's a good sign. Well, that's not a good sign. Well, let's solve it now. 171 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:47,300 Oh, was it flashing before? I don't know. Who makes an orange power LED, though? 172 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:51,500 There's no way. Oh, this is BTX. Okay, stupid question. 173 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:55,400 Is that power button even hooked up? If it's meant to be turned on somehow, else here. 174 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:01,600 That is a not stupid question. For future us, very cool piece of equipment. 175 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,600 I'm glad we didn't pay full price for it in its current condition, though, because there's no way that this is alive. 176 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,600 I mean, wait, does it have a power plug? 177 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,100 Sorry. Sorry. It's still good. Ah, it's this. 178 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:16,500 Okay, here, let's power it. Oh, dude. 179 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:19,600 No way. Dude. No way. The display works. 180 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,500 Are you kidding me right now? Dude, she works. 181 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:26,900 To be clear, I'm not worried that we would be able to find, you know, 182 00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:31,000 another display with similar inputs. I'm just worried that using something 183 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,000 that's not part of the expected equipment for this thing 184 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,300 could have unforeseen consequences. This is a relief for me, 185 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:40,900 because this is the interface. When you don't have an interface, you got nothing. 186 00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:44,300 At least we got a big nothing. Yeah. Oh, what's this? 187 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:47,900 Documentation, apparently. I think I found that it uses two different refrigerants, 188 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:51,200 so that checks out. Okay, that makes it definitely a two-stage. 189 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,000 It's got, you know, up-to-date calibration or maintenance records from 2014. 190 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,600 She seems like a pretty good manual. Ellen, two cooling. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 191 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,600 It's saying if you want to additionally use liquid nitrogen cooling, there's a vent. 192 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,900 So you should vent. We can get the quantum computing in there. 193 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:10,300 Yeah. There's a lot to learn, but this does not look like a generic manual. 194 00:14:10,300 --> 00:14:15,200 This looks like the proper manual for this chamber. For this one, yeah. That's actually very promising, then, I guess. 195 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:20,000 And it has some, like, schematics on the back for some electrical and stuff you can see. 196 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,900 Dude, without this, we'd probably be S.O.I. That would be so lost, yeah. We might still be lost, but... 197 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:28,000 Cool. Got a lot to learn. And this is going to be a huge project. 198 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,500 In short, that we know of so far, we need to get some kind of external cooling tower. 199 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:36,900 We need to charge the refrigerant in both of the stages. 200 00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:39,900 We need to go through and inspect for any failed valves 201 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:44,400 or sensors or other components. We need to replace the PC and also figure out 202 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:51,200 what kind of control software they were using. And we need to find a place to put it and a way to move it. 203 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Whew. And we also have to tell you about our sponsor. 204 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,300 If you guys enjoyed this video, make sure you subscribe for the rest of our adventure. 205 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:03,900 Hopefully getting this thing into service. And if you want to check out another refrigeration video, 206 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:08,300 why not check out the time that I bought the world's greatest CPU cooler? 207 00:15:08,300 --> 00:15:11,700 It's not just two-stage, but it's a three-stage cascade 208 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:16,300 chiller that goes directly onto a CPU and brings it down to negative 100 Celsius. 209 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:20,800 It's pretty cool. What do you think was the worst in scrap? Hopefully more than $1,300.