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You know, you know, it's the right thing to do. Nope. Get rekt. I got new wax today

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Watch this

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See I can slide my my lips over my teeth now. Oh

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They'll put like semi-permanent wax over the tops of these

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It's funny Watching everyone at my orthodontist trip over themselves to

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Pretend that they have no idea that these things are crazy sharp

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And I'm just like I don't believe that nobody's ever told you this before

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After you put them on you admitted you knew that they sat prouder from the tooth and that they were textured which

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Basically is like a billion little

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serrated blades cutting into the insides of your mouth. Do you have like

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Like inside of your mouth calluses not yet. That's the problem

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And they're taking way longer to develop versus a smooth metal

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Yeah, because it's textured. It's ceramic

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Needless to say I will not be accepting light forces sponsorship

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Don't think I feel like endorsing these was that a thing or you just saying that for fun

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Oh, they wanted to they reached out I don't know if I don't know if there would have been any kind of sponsorship or anything

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But we heard from them and then I sent them a bunch of my feedback and then I don't think we've heard from them again

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That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah, I do have a way with people

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What's that book how to lose friends and irritate people

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It's a thing wait is it yeah, someone wrote a business book

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That's how to I forget how to how to lose friends and alienate people maybe it's a movie

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Yeah

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It would be Simon Pegg Nice

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We're already pretty late today. So should we just get this thing started? Yeah

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It has nothing to do with that. I don't want to wear the late hat for longer

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When do you get to take it off just when we actually start the show? Yeah, it's just a pre-show thing

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It is I think I think I wore it. I don't know but I

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Think I remember last time it felt like it was too long whatever amount of time it was

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I don't remember What the deal was but I felt like it was too long

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Okay, oh my back. Oh I can't crack it. Come on back. Oh

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There it goes Oh

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There goes the other side. Okay, that's much better

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Oh, all right, let's do this thing

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Are you jealous you'll never get to wear the hat not Linus was trying to establish that before the show. No, I'm not he's jealous

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I'm completely okay with never wearing the hat. He's he's gelatinous. I'm going for a shutout this season

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Shutout. Yep It's gonna be pretty tough. I don't think so. It's gonna be pretty tough. Apparently I'm 4-0 already. Don't make me sabotage you

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We'll see. All right, I'm punching it

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Oh

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I screwed up Daniel have to tell me when we're live. I don't mind how they laptop up

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You should be like, hey

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What's up, and welcome to the f***ing when show that's right my friends YouTube has changed their

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guidelines suddenly for Reasons that are not entirely clear to me, but we'll be talking about it later

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Allowing profanity within the first few seconds of a video without marking them as no longer

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Advertiser friendly, that's right. My friends we can say words like

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Do I do I bleep it? I think so because we we always were like that population

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Yeah Yeah, also other news. I haven't done my second one yet. I just got excited

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In other news

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LMG is Canadian propaganda now. That's right

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There's a new little end card thing on all of our videos

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That's all like funded by the government of Canada

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We really have some we're like Lucy because we have some spleen and to-do

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Sure, yeah, you took mine darn it. I do try

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That's a mean one I wanted to do how I assert my dominance. No, okay, I also pee on your things

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We we mentioned there being a Bredisaurus game

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Last WAN Show and there is one apparently that happened really fast. Yeah, that was crazy. So we'll check that out

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Also, the Internet Archive is now a US federal depository library, which is actually awesome

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The show is brought to you today by thorom

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Squarespace and Vessie alongside of course our rap partner D brand our laptop partner Dell and our chair partner

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Secret lab. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic this?

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This surprised the

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Man, it's hard to do it But I don't I don't necessarily think that we should because we never did old habits die hard, but we never did so I think it's okay

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Okay, well, why don't I read the thing first? Yeah, I'm this was prepared by Adam from the writing team

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He says Advertise here you little shit

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YouTube allows shit as fuck

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Sucker mother fucker It's and more in the first seven seconds two years ago

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The money hungry worms that YouTube said that any fucking video that swore in the first seven seconds

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Wouldn't be monetized. Well, that's changed now. You can swear again in their video

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YouTube specifically says that asshole and bitch are

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Moderate profanity and words like fuck are strong

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They do not provide any more examples, which is unfortunate because I always love it when

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corporations just kind of like in the interest of of of

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Explicitness pun intended Give examples say bad words or got it talk about you know sexual things. Yeah, you know tell yet

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No, no, tell me exactly what's allowed

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High-frequency squaring across the whole video is still an ad policy violation, however. Oh shit

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I mean, I'm bleeping is bleeping it but but what's interesting about this is the word through the grapevine though

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I don't think I ever had anyone concretely confirmed this for me the word through the grapevine was that even

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high-frequency of Expletive deleted beeps

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Especially very early in the video could have had an impact before although it seems like that used to be a thing now

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Maybe now maybe it won't be as much hateful speech is still a policy violation

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So if you're to say I fucking hate you so much, that's not hate speech you guys get the point

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YouTube has not provided more specific information as to where the profanity line exists. So we're still going to be running on vibes

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YouTube is also this is interesting

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Re-monetizing older content that was in violation of the policy assuming of course that that was the only

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violation now because this topic was prepared by Adam naturally our discussion question is what's your favorite swear?

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I think I know your answer and I don't think you can say that still

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Shouldn't laugh so much on that one. Yeah What you're talking about?

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Unfortunately, it's just a it's just a fun word. Yeah, it's like a happy word. Yeah, you know, it's just it it rolls

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my my Sadness with that is the way that it like

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Fits into certain sentences and stuff. I don't want to actually use it because of the

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Yeah, we're actually we're actually not gonna use it because we actually shouldn't yeah

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And but and I agree with that It's just there isn't another word that sounds like that and like plays like that in a sentence. Yep. Yep. No, no

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I I mourn the loss of of that. I get it. I agree with it's also

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It's also one of those words that can be a sentence. Yeah, you know and and that's

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You know, it's just like you think about that and you're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, it sucks

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I wish that word didn't mean what it meant. Yeah, sure. Yeah, if that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah

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I think you guys probably core original was also different

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Words are weird. Oh, oh a hundred percent words are weird a hundred percent

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You know what realistically my favorite swear word is also not a swear word

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It goes really well with a swear word I can tell you that much and

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You might say that I dropped it casually in my high school years

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What

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I'm just reading chat

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It was so cool

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Yeah, it never comes up for you ever does it look

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And and and you know what for for for me again like I

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Totally understand why that word has fallen out of favor

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I Do have to admit I don't really see the difference

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We it used to be that it seems worse now

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Sorry in what sense though the words that people use like in lieu of it seem worse now in my well, yeah

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Yeah, because that is wild to me is is people always move on

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But it's like we we definitely escalated and people seem fine with the escalation

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I'm sure that will not be true in like two years or something. Yeah, I mean it's it's one

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And it's one of those things where it's like even even within our our lifetime like the the

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Okay, here's the thing people are always going to

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Make disparaging comments about people whose mental acuity is perceived to be lower

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I am not saying they should I'm not saying that I

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Should I'm just saying that people will yeah

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That will always be Just like any of the other traits that people will bully each other over that will always be

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something that people will attack and

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It seems like there's a bit of a pattern where when

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when People are looking for a trendy new word to use to hurl at each other they go straight to the medical textbooks

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You know idiot you can just totally say

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More on you can just totally say

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They literally like literally though actually literally at some point or another particularly idiot literally meant the exact

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Same thing still do As far as I can tell

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But like we've we've drawn We've drawn this like

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This line and we're like That was okay. Yeah that one we well, it's not I don't think that it's that it's okay

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I think if you asked someone to really sit down and think about it. It's like okay. Well, why why can you say

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Why can you say like why can't you why does nobody flinch?

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You know when you call someone a moron or you say that's that's an idiotic thing to say

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Whatever else like nobody really bats an eye

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But like the bull But that word They'll be like, oh, yeah, no no those other ones are bad too. I thought for a while was that it was because of

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One of them being more of a category

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But then the new word in that field is also specific again

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So yeah, no, it's it's a Clearly that wasn't the case like we're just we're just talking we're talking about the like the more spectrum-y word

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Right that has sort of taken the place which is which is funny to me because

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like I'm not even necessarily convinced that being on the spectrum like is an insult

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Um, a lot of people really own it, which I think is cool to be honest. Yeah

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Whereas like just sort of broadly your your mental capacity is low seems like a more of an insult

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I also think these days it's very common for people to identify like any little minor thing about practically

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Anyone and be like that means you are on the spectrum

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It's just like bruh at a certain point if you're going to include all this stuff

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We just all are so well, that's the whole thing. It's a spectrum humanity. I guess if dark rainbow says

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I think the r-word is actually a medical term question mark. Yeah, but so was it. Yeah

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Like that's the whole thing is like idiot became the favored medical term

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And then people started using it to insult each other So they made a new word and then people started using that to insult each other. So they like

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Made a new word. I mean, I feel like look Uh, not on the playground because the timing would have been right for that

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But like by the time I was in high school, you'd have people throwing things like differently abled at each other

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literally just Taking whatever was the the most politically correct

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Terminology that anyone could possibly come up with and going. Oh, well, let's just use that then

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Right, just say it in a certain tone. Yeah, it's more about the tone

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And maybe that's something that we that we that bothers us so much about the the r-word is that it is so fun to say

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it's like It it it yeah in the exact opposite way that the one that I liked was fun to say

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Yes, because that one's d-d-d-d and the other one's

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Yeah, you can you can extend it. Yeah. Yeah, and so and look like I I fully support that there are very good reasons that

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Or rather there's just no reason

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To, you know stomp on a group of people with our language if there isn't a good reason for it

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Um, and so, you know, do I necessarily subscribe to that?

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You know, I I should Constantly have to be keeping up to date with every single, you know

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Sensitivity around every single word. No, I don't I don't think that's possible

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Um, but you know once you know once you're informed of you know, what the what the impact of something is words

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Do you have power? You know that whole sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me

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It's like yeah, they can't break your bones, but to say that they can't hurt you

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I think you'd have to be pretty stone cold to uh To never have anything that anyone said hurt your feelings because it's not the words that do it, right?

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Of course, it's the it's the negative energy that someone is projecting at you

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um So anywho, what's my favorite swear?

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I don't know. I guess I don't really I guess I don't really have one anymore

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um

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Love me a good f-bomb though. It's so versatile

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I don't know if there's one I use more than that is probably the most versatile word that we like have at all pretty much

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Because it's just used for everything good bad

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Whatever yeah, it's the it's the the filler word of all filler words

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I'm gonna go with that then yeah sure Oh, you could make any non-swear word into a swear. What would it be?

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See that's impossible I because at a at a certain point they lose all of their original meaning so you could really pick any word

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Some people are saying clanker clanker. I don't know but that feels very forced to me. Yeah, I know it's it's apparently trending right now

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Let's go with bread Bread. Yeah, I thought bucket bucket. You know what? I like bucket because I my whole thing is I like

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Bucket let's do it feel to say and how they sound out. I care a lot more about that than

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Like that's the reason why I like that one word that we're not saying is because it it it like

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How it feels to say and how it kind of flows and sounds out and how you can integrate and how you can extend it and all

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That kind of stuff is why I like the word not the other stuff, right?

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Um, so I I kind of like bucket right because it you know what I'm gonna go with regarded

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I We should move on

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Suddenly everyone cares about the children

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Not you Uh

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It's not just the uk Uh, youtube has started rolling out age estimation technology to a small set of users in the us

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Starting august 13th if the platform thinks that you are under 18

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It will activate protection measures like non personalized ads. Okay, cool

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Um, it will enable the take a break and bedtime reminders

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And it will alter recommendations

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Yeah, honestly, I mean these all Maybe this should just roll them out platform. Well, anyway, um, google is taking similar measures with some us based google accounts over the next few weeks

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The australian government Is nixing an exception they were going to make for youtube in the country's social media ban come december accounts for users under 16 will be illegal

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in other news Spotify Is threatening to delete uk user accounts if they fail an age verification test

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Here's a list of off-com approved methods for age verification in the uk

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You can do facial age estimation so you show your face via photo or video and technology analyzes it to estimate your age

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Open banking You give permission for the age check service to securely access information from your bank about whether you're over 18

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The age check service then confirms this with the site or app

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Keep that keep that keep that train going Digital identity services these include digital identity wallets which can securely store and share information which proves your age in a digital format

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Credit card age checks you provide your credit card details and your payment processor checks if the card is valid

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Because you must be over 18 to obtain a credit card. This shows you're over 18. Was I over 18 when I got my first credit card?

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Try to think I thought I had like a parent cosine one before I was 18. I could have sworn I did

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I'm looking at something somebody else sent that they said was cool new grounds

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Well, someone said that now that's a name. I've not heard in a long time

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I haven't heard anyone say new grounds in forever, but somebody said that new grounds is doing an age checking that is actually really cool

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So I want to see you hold on. Let me get through the rest of the officially approved ones

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email based age estimation wait

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You provide your email address and I love this technology analyzes

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Other online services where it has been used such as banking or utility providers to estimate your age

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Mobile network operator age checks So you give permission for an age check service to confirm whether or not your mobile phone number has age filters applied to it

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And photo id matching So this is similar to a check where you show a document

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For example, you upload an image of a document that shows your face and age

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And an image of yourself at the same time and these are compared to confirm the document is yours

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Here are some sites that are verifying and this is from the bbc

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um pornhub And a number of other major adult websites have confirmed that they will introduce enhanced age checks

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Reddit has already introduced age verification to stop people aged under 18 from looking at certain mature content

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Telegram and twitter They'll be using facial scans to determine if users are over or under 18

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Discord gives uk users a choice of face or id scanning as a way to verify their age

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um And after testing methods, uh blue sky said after testing whatever blue sky says it will give uk users a range of different verification options

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And new grounds has announced they will not use facial recognition and instead use things like account age or supporter status

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To determine user age, which is effectively pay access to be clear. This is hilarious small one time v

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This is hilarious. We can't verify this right now not easily anyway

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But apparently some folks in the uk are using gary's mod to circumvent uk censorship

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Pretty fantastic. Oh my god, that is amazing

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Pretty fantastic. I hope it's real. I really hope it's real. Well last week we talked about how they use desk branding

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Yeah, so they're using games either way. I just liked I just liked the gary's mod one better

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Honestly, if you're gonna put

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I think it's hilarious that they're they're It's openly talking about how they're not going to regulate ai, which I mean I've talked about how I don't think it would work

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Anyways, even if they tried so it is what it is But um, they're openly talking about how they're not going to regulate ai and they're saying oh by the way

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We're going to verify your age based on a picture That is a those two things happening at the same time is genuinely hilarious to me because people are using like video games

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Especially gary's mod. My opinion is really funny. The easiest way to do this would just be to generate a picture

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Yeah, well, don't forget they they ask you to do stuff But even then you could just generate an avatar. Yeah

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It's pretty trivial. This is literally a solved problem

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And they're like we'll use this totally solved problem that the kids know the best as

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As our version of age verification. Like are you kidding me? How disconnected?

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How completely disconnected lawmakers seem to be from tech and how it works

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Let's make it an enormous massive

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incredible pot of extremely valuable information for people to

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steal and hoard For all of the people that are going to approach this legitimately and let's also make it incredibly easy to get around illegitimately

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um So that it is completely ineffective to anyone who really wants to actually access this content

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And shouldn't for whatever reason or we don't want to maybe I'll say that

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um But we are still collecting an incredibly valuable hoard of information just to make sure that someone can steal it

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That that is all that is happening is completely ineffective

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Completely worthless and a huge pot of valuable information for now. Look if I could believe

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That they were actually going to just ingest this information

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process the check Send back a validation

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Code or something like that and it was immediately deleted

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If I could actually trust that that was happening

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Look If I could trust that that was actually happening perfectly

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Then this stuff wouldn't bother me as much but to luke's point about creating

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treasure troves of data for people to target

00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:17.640
I think that's way more likely unfortunately or even treasure troves of pipelines of data

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Like you're saying even if it's immediately deleted. Well, they had it for a period of time when I say those systems are compromised

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Okay, when I say immediately deleted though, I'm talking end to end encrypted and immediately deleted

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I'm talking if they were doing it if I could trust them to do it properly

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Because that's the problem in general I am fairly supportive of the idea of not having to carry around a stupid plastic card

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That validates if I'm allowed to operate a motor vehicle

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What fucking year is it? But the flip side is I don't trust them to do the other way properly. Yeah, that's the problem

00:25:52.440 --> 00:26:01.000
If I could Then obviously the utopia is that I just have everything tracked digitally if I if I don't care

00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:03.960
And I have you know plastic paper

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Physical options if I do care choice. I'm advocating for choice

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But either way it should be done with security first

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And I just don't trust and to be clear. I'm not singling out the uk government here

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No, it's happening in lots of places. I'm not singling out the us government or the australian government

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Which is why I didn't name any specific governments. It's just all of them in a in a bucket

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Yeah

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All of those governments are very well regarded Oh

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Language we're not gonna make it out here. I didn't say it. I said off you said more than that

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Oh man, oh man did Dan leave

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I mean, yeah, I guess it's better to just take off before the pitchforks and torches show up

00:27:05.080 --> 00:27:10.120
Yeah, I'll let you want to talk about next because I without him putting things on the signs

00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.760
I literally don't know what to do. I think it's just topic two

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That was topic two. Oh really? Yeah

00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:25.720
Oh Should we talk about this petition one? Oh, I was going to do LMG is canadian propaganda. Sure. Yeah, let's do it

00:27:25.800 --> 00:27:29.160
Might as well tell the people. Okay. So our sources are our reddit

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Who noticed this it's truly amazing how reddit can notice things multiple times

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I think this is like the fourth post reddit is really good at noticing on the subreddit notice stuff. So we uh

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We recently had this Show up in our end cards on our videos funded by the government of canada. Oh, excuse me. Sorry

00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.880
uh financed by the government of canada

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Um And reddit noticed and they had some questions about what the crap exactly it is that means so

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We went to josh from the accounting department or rather nick pluf did from the from the writing team

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He has a display by the way. Um, he went to josh and said good to know. Uh, we are getting government tax credits

00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:23.640
We applied through cavco the canadian audio visual certification office and have received tax credits from the cra the canadian revenue agency

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Is it canadian revenue or canada revenue agency? I thought it was canadian. It doesn't matter. It's it's the cra. I care. I'm looking it up

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It's the tax man canada

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cavco Yes Cavco does not dictate and has no control over what content we produce

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They've reviewed our content and deemed it eligible. That is that is it

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Um, this funding could be revoked at their discretion

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And to support the fact that our content is not controlled the funding actually occurs

00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:58.200
post production cycle, which is something that I have actually

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Spoken about at length in the past because one of the observations that I have meant

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Uh, there are that I have made over the years is that some of this funding appears to be appears to have

00:29:12.120 --> 00:29:16.360
um many hoops that need to be jumped through and also many

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Um rules in place that make it difficult for startups who probably need it

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More badly than anyone then then more established companies do it makes it kind of hard for them to get it with that said

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If these tax credits are out there And we do have the capacity to apply for them and and work through all the paperwork and all of that then

00:29:38.760 --> 00:29:42.680
I sure as heck. I'm not going to not do that at this stage

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Um, but boy could I have ever used it 10 years ago a lot more than I'd need it today

00:29:48.600 --> 00:29:51.480
Yeah, and aren't these like these are old aren't they?

00:29:52.280 --> 00:29:59.080
um So the the the payouts are quite delayed. I think yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah

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Like this is for like a long time ago So like they they they come in and then the accounting department regards them

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And then they put them in a bucket put them in a bucket. Yeah, uh, anyway

00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:16.600
There is one small thing that watermark was actually not supposed to be on TechLinked

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It's only applicable to LTT Our other channels are actually not affected

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So if you've seen the watermark on tech link to ShortCircuit that should no longer be the case starting next week

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I don't know why uh, I don't know why ShortCircuit wouldn't count. I'll have to I'll have to talk to

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I'll have to talk to them about that because I know that um, I know that news was not

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Uh, was not covered. So I think that's why TechLinked is is no good

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There's certain there's certain classifications of content that they they don't fund

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There's also like it. I'm sure honestly This is probably a problem in like basically every country because any system like this is going to get horrifically abused by somebody

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And then you're going to have to lock it down like crazy And then it becomes harder to utilize for the people that need it most. I understand this is a cycle

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Um, but I have found like even with with a lot of Canadian task credits

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It takes so much work. Are you talking shred right now? Yeah. Yeah, it takes so much work

00:31:11.800 --> 00:31:16.760
Just to get the credit that it's often not worth doing the work to get the credit

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Because it would be better to just Do your job

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Because it's like you you would lose so much productivity trying to get the credit for the productivity that you might as well

00:31:26.600 --> 00:31:33.480
Just do more. Yeah, that's um, that's it's it's surprising how many folks we've talked to that literally will hire someone

00:31:34.120 --> 00:31:39.640
Whose entire full-time job is to extract shred credits or cavco credits or whatever the case may be

00:31:39.800 --> 00:31:43.800
I know a small to medium-sized gaming studio in vancouver that has two

00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:49.960
Full-time staff that their literal only job is to capture shred credits

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Which is like I feel like if this is the case

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We've screwed up at some point

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Because that should not like and in my opinion in a well-functioning society that should not be a role that exists anywhere because that is

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purely just a waste of people

00:32:09.320 --> 00:32:18.280
in my opinion And like I get apparently to them like talking to them both of those people pay for themselves and more by capturing these credits so like

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Nice but Damn

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Uh, we also apply for um, it's sred for or sr. Andy d

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I think is what it is for people that are wondering what how we're saying shred everyone calls it shred up here

00:32:34.760 --> 00:32:39.400
But I think it's sred. Hmm. Uh, we also apply for provincial credits

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So you'll find those on our website Linus media group com uh from creative bc

00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.840
Yeah, want to hear a fun fact Yes

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Did you know that the checks that we get like our tax credits

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Are considered taxable income

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Even though it's a deduction theoretically like in principle of the tax that we paid

00:33:12.360 --> 00:33:17.560
It actually counts as income and we pay and we pay income tax on it

00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:23.080
Yes, fox enzi the tax cuts are taxable

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I just I just wish

00:33:31.320 --> 00:33:35.720
I just wish we did more with it You know we did more with it. Yeah, what do you mean?

00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:42.280
You know, I wish we weren't like going tremendously into debt and stuff like that us the country. Oh, yeah

00:33:42.520 --> 00:33:47.400
Well, I didn't know. No, no, no, no, no. I was like no, we're doing okay. No, not. Yeah, we got this

00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:49.800
Company's doing all right. Everything's under control. We're just

00:33:50.840 --> 00:33:56.360
Ah Dan, um We're gonna have to make some cuts though. Oh my goodness

00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:03.160
Normally I do crossfades, but I can switch it to cuts if you prefer. I like it. I like that and that my friends

00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:08.520
Is why he's not going anywhere He's sharp. He's quick like that

00:34:08.520 --> 00:34:11.880
Uh, no, it's just like we do video editing get it

00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.800
It's funny joke I did I I looked recently into some of the

00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:25.960
There you go. Nice I looked recently into some of the taxes in bc. You talked about this recently as well

00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:35.080
um, and you know BC is known as a fraud haven of north america. Um, so there's definitely some of that going on

00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.760
Um, but there is a lot of tax money flowing through bc

00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:45.080
And I just I understand that you know, some of the provincial money goes to help other provinces and stuff like this

00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.520
Yeah, I think bc is a have province, right? We we pay into the have-nots if I recall correctly

00:34:51.080 --> 00:34:55.160
Yeah, um, but it's just at the same time. It's like darn man

00:34:56.120 --> 00:35:05.400
I don't know I don't this whole like every company every country. Sorry running more and more down into deficits harder and harder and harder all the time

00:35:05.720 --> 00:35:12.280
like it's uh There's that old like, uh, what is it great great? I don't remember the quote exactly but great men plant

00:35:12.680 --> 00:35:16.680
The seeds of trees that they will never sit in the shade of or whatever. We're doing like the

00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:23.480
Hard opposite of that. Mm-hmm. We're like, uh digging a deeper hole that we won't have to sit in

00:35:24.680 --> 00:35:30.280
Yeah, the problem is that the the the time of reckoning it seems to be sort of creeping up on us

00:35:31.240 --> 00:35:37.400
It's slowly constantly pushed back and made worse all the time and then eventually we'll hit a wall where we can't push back anymore

00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.200
And we're just screwed Then I just don't love it

00:35:42.520 --> 00:35:47.160
That's my old complaint, but whatever we can we can do we can move on. Is there a good topic?

00:35:48.200 --> 00:35:50.680
AI therapists or just users going killing spree?

00:35:52.520 --> 00:35:58.120
Maybe we talk about that next okay. No, hold on that sounds way better. Hold on. There was a disc

00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:08.040
Good news wancho There was a discussion question for this one. It was does the canadian propaganda

00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:16.440
Thing change anything the answer is no we've been applying for and receiving various provincial and federal tax credits for I think

00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:22.840
Eight or nine years now. So if it didn't bother you before then it shouldn't bother you now

00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:28.680
and um, we are We are we are we are grateful for the

00:36:29.560 --> 00:36:33.320
flexibility That we were able to find

00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:40.360
With the people that we've worked with um at cavco and at creative bc because a lot of these credits

00:36:40.520 --> 00:36:46.040
Really were set up for traditional media like one of the big challenges that we ran into was they were like well

00:36:46.520 --> 00:36:49.480
You have to apply on a season by season basis of your show

00:36:50.200 --> 00:36:52.920
So what's it and we're like, okay? Well, what's the season?

00:36:53.720 --> 00:36:56.600
And they allowed us to call a year a season

00:36:57.240 --> 00:37:01.960
Okay, even even though like within that season, right like the

00:37:03.160 --> 00:37:08.120
There's not this type of serialization that you would normally expect for a season of a tv show

00:37:08.520 --> 00:37:16.760
And and that's not that's not their fault It's just rules that were made for a very different time and these things are government moves slow

00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:23.320
And so these things took a long time to adapt so we appreciate the the the things that they were able to do to help us

00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.480
get things moving along and

00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.680
Hopefully they don't run out of money Yeah

00:37:30.680 --> 00:37:33.800
Yeah Good luck everyone

00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:39.320
Yeah, I um, I don't know man. I have such a complicated relationship with taxes

00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.400
As you can imagine I pay a lot of them

00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:53.160
Yeah, which nice, which I consider a privilege. Good job. Yeah

00:37:53.400 --> 00:38:00.760
Heck yeah No, seriously though, sometimes I feel that way like we we had someone we had someone on the team recently who was quite

00:38:01.080 --> 00:38:05.080
Badly injured actually. Oh, I mean he was on camera. Okay, uh, david

00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:11.400
You guys probably saw him in alamades. Uh AMD ultimate tech upgrade with a big old cast on his ARM

00:38:11.720 --> 00:38:17.960
I'm not going to give you too many of the gruesome details, but I'll say it involved the great canadian game of hockey

00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:22.680
and Going into the boards real hard

00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:29.480
Was not I am personally very happy with my tax money going towards fixing stuff like that

00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:33.240
And and and you know personally all good with it. I I

00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:38.920
david told me the gruesome details of of of set pins and

00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:47.800
and surgeries and and and all that kind of stuff and and I I could almost I could almost hear the canadian national anthem

00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.960
You know in in the background right knowing that he didn't pay

00:38:52.680 --> 00:38:58.440
A penny for that fantastic. I shouldn't say didn't pay a penny because obviously we pay for it. We pay for it with our taxes

00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:06.440
However, however And and like he was in and out quick which we do have a triage system where sometimes

00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:10.520
Yeah, people will wait a really really really long time and sometimes that works out real bad

00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.960
But there was a level of urgency with his injury

00:39:14.680 --> 00:39:20.280
And he was in surgery. I think within like five days or something like that most of my personal ones have been

00:39:21.160 --> 00:39:25.720
Totally fine in regards to wait times. I know some stories where it's been really bad

00:39:26.120 --> 00:39:34.680
But most of my personal ones have been fine However, I can't deny that when I see like egregious waste

00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:39.240
Um, I just I I get I get I get pretty mad

00:39:40.600 --> 00:39:46.040
I don't like it. Yeah, like I don't like I don't like talking to a contractor, right?

00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:51.480
And talking about the options for okay. Okay. Here's a perfect example. Remember when we built

00:39:52.120 --> 00:39:56.280
The original tenant improvement here in unit 102, right?

00:39:56.360 --> 00:40:02.520
So the the bottom and top floor and remember how we had the the top was just all boxed in and I had this

00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:08.680
Genius idea of putting Windows on it so you could see out into the studio space just to kind of make it

00:40:08.680 --> 00:40:11.960
I don't know a little less oppressive didn't work. It's still oppressive whatever

00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:17.720
Um, turns out Windows to an indoor space don't really do that much. I don't know. Do you think they're better than nothing?

00:40:17.720 --> 00:40:26.120
I think it helped. Okay. Sure. Fine. Whatever. I for sure think it helped The point is that when we were talking about the Windows to put into this interior wall

00:40:26.520 --> 00:40:30.600
Uh, I was like, oh, well, yeah, we'll just throw some Windows in there. They're like just to stick on this for a second

00:40:30.600 --> 00:40:36.040
I think the gap between like really bad and like not great is actually really important

00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:41.560
Fair enough. Like I feel like that was like going from 15 to 30 FPS. Okay fair enough. Yeah

00:40:42.040 --> 00:40:46.280
So so anyway, I was like, hey, I want to put some Windows in here. That should be no problem, right?

00:40:47.720 --> 00:40:52.920
So the contractors come back to me they go, oh, well, they need to be fire rated and they need they need this

00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:59.560
And they need that and so you need the you need these ones with the with the fire wire inside the inside the glass

00:40:59.560 --> 00:41:03.560
So they like, okay. Well, how much do those cost and they're like

00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.000
A lot more and I'm like, okay fine. Okay. Well

00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:13.480
I really The whole point was for this to feel less oppressive. Can we not have

00:41:14.040 --> 00:41:19.640
Can we not have wires on the window? And they're like, oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, we got yeah

00:41:19.640 --> 00:41:22.120
We got clear fire glass that doesn't have the wires in it

00:41:23.720 --> 00:41:30.440
How much you want to pay? I'm like, well, what do you mean? They're like, well, you know how the fire glass was way more expensive than the regular glass?

00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:37.960
Well There's a lot more expensive than that and I go and they tell me the price I forget how much it was but it was like

00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.760
obscene, right? And I was like

00:41:42.040 --> 00:41:45.880
Who's who's using this? I'm like, they're like nobody except like government buildings

00:41:49.160 --> 00:41:51.960
And I hear that and I'm just like, okay

00:41:54.520 --> 00:42:00.280
By the time all is said and done before I've even bought anything and paid sales tax, right

00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:04.280
My income tax rate is over 50 percent

00:42:05.080 --> 00:42:09.800
So that you Can have Windows that do not have wires in them

00:42:10.680 --> 00:42:17.320
but I have to settle for Windows with wires in them. So are there things that I find

00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:21.880
frustrating absolutely

00:42:22.680 --> 00:42:28.680
But david's ARM Happy david's ARM is in one piece or not in one piece. It's in the right

00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:32.120
It's in the correct number of pieces correct orientation and number of pieces

00:42:32.200 --> 00:42:37.480
Yeah, and and so and so I don't know man. It's I one piece would suck. Yeah. Yeah, that wouldn't be good

00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.120
yeah Yeah quality anime I've heard but in terms of like

00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.040
wrist bones, maybe maybe not the best. Yeah

00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:50.040
so Dude, I don't know. I just I it's so

00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:55.400
It's so complicated and and I and I really get into trouble when it gets into like the arts

00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.600
Because you know, I don't pretend to know if

00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:04.760
You know that that statue, you know, or whatever is worth a million dollars

00:43:06.120 --> 00:43:13.000
What I do know is that if there's a single textbook out of date in a public school that I probably wouldn't have

00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.800
That statue but then the flip side is, you know, vancouver

00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:24.280
Generates a lot of revenue as a tourist destination one of the most beautiful cities in the world and it really is

00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:33.320
It really is beautiful here six months out of the year Um, and so, you know, do those installations contribute to that like all the funky whales from the 2010 olympics

00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:38.280
Yeah, it's hard to value eight But I do notice when they're absent

00:43:39.080 --> 00:43:42.600
Yeah, if that makes sense. Yeah, like you you kind of want these things

00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.360
Like looking at one of them individually is like, I don't know. I don't I can't

00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:53.320
Uh, I have no idea what this is worth to me But I know that the absence of the absence of them

00:43:53.880 --> 00:44:00.040
Makes them seem a lot more valuable if that makes sense. Yeah, not not having art not having interesting things around the city

00:44:00.600 --> 00:44:03.960
um Makes it seem like a pass through town

00:44:05.080 --> 00:44:07.080
Instead of somewhere that people want to be

00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.480
Yeah, Seth Jones says line. It shouldn't be in government. I

00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:17.640
I I just I don't think I have the I don't think I have the stomach for it like there's

00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.840
I had to go to my first city council meeting not that long ago

00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:33.160
it's dry, man I There's there's one particular sorry counselor that like really stood out. I'm I'm gonna like figure out how to vote in a municipal

00:44:33.720 --> 00:44:38.920
election next time around so I can vote for her or something because she was awesome, but um

00:44:39.720 --> 00:44:43.720
Yeah, I don't think I have the temperament for it. I don't think I have the patience

00:44:44.600 --> 00:44:46.920
Wow, I mean you could have put up a bit of a fight

00:44:47.640 --> 00:44:52.840
Not for that level of governance. That would have been nice for you to I think you'd do well higher up actually

00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:58.680
But at that level of governance, I think you'd have a problem I don't think you'd have an issue climbing that form of ladder

00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.960
But when you get up to like elbow gate level stuff, I think you'd do well

00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:08.520
Because then it becomes like showmanship. Yeah, then you're just like supposed to be like uh like an inspirational speaker

00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:14.680
Figurehead. Yeah, essentially. I think my problem there is I wouldn't be good enough at the dick sucking

00:45:15.080 --> 00:45:17.320
Um that you have to do with other heads of state

00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:20.760
Like the the way around that I think you could

00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:27.640
I think if you like do it Well enough you might be able to get around that. I don't think so

00:45:28.200 --> 00:45:31.800
I don't think so like I like I I don't I don't suffer fools

00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:37.720
I don't follow. I don't follow it enough I don't follow Canadian stuff enough like like like if I ended up in one of those

00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:43.560
One of those like silly performative like White House sit-downs or something like Zelensky

00:45:44.040 --> 00:45:46.040
I don't think I could hold my tongue

00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:52.920
Yeah, yeah, I just don't think I could do it. Yeah. Yeah, so I that might be okay. Well

00:45:55.160 --> 00:46:00.120
Fair enough Yeah, so so stife

00:46:00.520 --> 00:46:05.800
2002 here says diplomacy is the art of telling your opponent to go to hell in a way that makes them look forward to the trip

00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.920
And that's that's something I'm not good at. I'm I'm too blunt. I

00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.040
I I just I speak my mind and

00:46:14.680 --> 00:46:19.240
It's not always nice Like very polky and

00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.440
Very a what now? Polk. Polk. Yeah

00:46:23.160 --> 00:46:29.880
American president quality speakers Not not a quality speaker. He just uh, he's a little aggro

00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:36.120
little aggro Linus, you're what they call a liability. Yeah. Yeah

00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.880
Um All right, why don't we uh, why don't we jump into uh, whatever we're supposed to be doing Dan?

00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:49.320
We've done three topics. I think we're a little behind on your little cards there

00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:55.480
Oh, I uh, I increased it because I didn't have a curated but I have one curated if you want to read that now

00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:01.960
Oh, uh, sure. Should we do that? We can do we can do whatever you want. Okay. Well, what's what's the merge message?

00:47:02.200 --> 00:47:06.920
Oh, yeah, right, right, right, right, right? Uh, so if you guys are looking to interact with the show

00:47:07.240 --> 00:47:12.280
We don't do twitch bits or super chats We do merge messages because the way that we see it

00:47:12.680 --> 00:47:17.000
You should if you're gonna throw money at your screen, you should get quality merchandise in return

00:47:17.240 --> 00:47:22.920
And boy, do we ever have an exciting thing for you to check out this week

00:47:23.240 --> 00:47:28.440
Do you guys remember those fun like uv reactive pc components from the 2000s?

00:47:29.160 --> 00:47:36.040
well We brought that energy right into a new collection of items that are available now on lttstore.com

00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:41.640
Introducing the land collection. Uh, it's time for luke and i to put on our wares

00:47:42.600 --> 00:47:50.200
Oh Yeah, buddy. Okay. That's a little small one sec. I did not think too size this before we started the

00:47:50.600 --> 00:47:56.840
Um, the mind fit perfectly. What happened? Well, maybe you checked it before the show because you're just a smart guy

00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:05.320
I feel like somebody Just has measured my head. That definitely didn't happen. Dude. I'm so flipping excited about these. We've had these in

00:48:06.040 --> 00:48:10.120
production for so flipping long

00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.000
Oh, yeah

00:48:15.080 --> 00:48:20.360
If you ever saw the old school, I shouldn't say old school, but the uh, the wan hoodie

00:48:20.520 --> 00:48:24.200
It's pretty old school. I guess it is now. No, no, this isn't based on the old one

00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:29.800
That's based on the newer one if you ever saw the wan hoodie and you were like, you know, what'd be cooler

00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.600
If that was more land

00:48:34.600 --> 00:48:41.160
um This is the hoodie for you. Check this out. This is a patch you guys by the way on the hood

00:48:45.640 --> 00:48:49.400
And If you ever thought hey

00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:53.080
Um, it would be way better if you know

00:48:53.720 --> 00:49:02.120
The wan hoodie or you know, if there was like a version of it that was actually uv reactive like those old motherboards

00:49:03.160 --> 00:49:05.160
Boy, do we ever have a treat for you Dan

00:49:06.200 --> 00:49:10.680
Go for it. Well, you got to do that first Here we go

00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:13.800
Whoa

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Oh man

00:49:23.240 --> 00:49:28.760
I think you hit the switch too. I heard it go. Nice. There you go. There we go. Look at that, dude

00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.800
Is it Yeah, there you go. Oh the hood the inside of the whoa

00:49:38.200 --> 00:49:42.600
That's actually that's wild. Do me the patch on the head. Which side is it? There we go

00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.400
And of course our table is glowing because it's glow circuit from d brand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:56.200
Cool The hood is wild

00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.600
So flipping cool. Um, there's one other piece. Do you want to show them the bag?

00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:04.920
So this is the lan belt bag

00:50:05.560 --> 00:50:09.880
It's got uv reactive trims and an LTT patch a couple organizing pockets inside

00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:17.160
And it was made with a tough ripstop fabric to prevent tears and of course reliable ykk zips throughout

00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:24.840
The hat is the same fit as our classic LTT hat and the lan hoodie, of course has uv reactive trims and LTT patch on the hood

00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.800
Eight different pockets and is based on the wan hoodie of years past

00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.640
They are all available at LMG.gg slash

00:50:33.640 --> 00:50:39.400
when Uh, oh my notes say also, can you please show off the sick photos?

00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.840
You can go ahead and turn that back on Dan one thing i was going to say as well is that that

00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.720
shirt that we had the british horse shirt that had like the

00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:52.360
Slightly rubbery kind of texture on it. I think a lot of not maybe all of it. Maybe all of it actually

00:50:52.760 --> 00:51:01.320
Yeah, this is just like printed. No Well, it is it's green printed. Okay, but it's um, it's like a like a thicker kind of rubberized

00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.360
It's a very noticeable texture. It's not just uh

00:51:05.080 --> 00:51:08.760
No, sometimes on a shirt like this like I can't really feel the printing. This is so awesome

00:51:10.040 --> 00:51:15.480
Heck yeah, man. I think our team actually might have too much fun with these photo shoots

00:51:20.120 --> 00:51:24.840
That is so cool. Yep, nicole Thomas

00:51:28.120 --> 00:51:30.120
Love it

00:51:34.120 --> 00:51:38.520
The glasses are sick. Oh, that's awesome suits it

00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:44.920
You love to see it. Okay, this is great Oh

00:51:48.040 --> 00:51:51.640
Man, I've been so excited to launch these

00:51:54.280 --> 00:52:00.200
Super cool, uh, and and there's a reason that we've waited so

00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:06.680
Flipping long To launch this collection. We're finally ready to announce

00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:11.400
Whale land is coming back. Let's go

00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:19.880
Go to whale land.com We are thrilled to announce the long-awaited return of whale land with our first event happening on september 27th and 28th

00:52:20.680 --> 00:52:23.320
2025 that's right. It is in just two

00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:28.200
months tickets go on sale august 5th at 12 p.m

00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:36.440
Pacific time at whale land.com BYOC tickets are 120 canadian dollars and will include a lanyard

00:52:36.680 --> 00:52:41.880
Enamel pin and a key chain that is unique to this event sporting our beloved whale in

00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:49.480
An astronaut suit. Do you have a picture? Uh, I hope so. Yep. Here it is. Haha. That looks great. It's so cute

00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:55.640
Look how cute he is My goodness. Uh, so yes our first one is um

00:52:56.600 --> 00:53:02.040
Is is space themed Uh, where do I find the blooded tickets?

00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:06.200
Oh, yeah, okay. No, that's it. We've just got the uh, we've just got the whale

00:53:06.600 --> 00:53:11.960
Uh picture for now, but you guys can check out the rest of it once the once everything else is up there

00:53:12.680 --> 00:53:17.640
um For those looking to level up the experience as usual

00:53:17.640 --> 00:53:24.280
We are offering a limited number of whale vip tickets for 5000 canadian dollars

00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:28.040
VIPs will receive a custom built gaming PC

00:53:28.520 --> 00:53:32.600
A sleek commuter backpack a transparent LTT screwdriver

00:53:33.240 --> 00:53:39.720
Every item from the LTT land collection and an exclusive studio and Labs tour

00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:47.160
Head to whale land.com for more info. We recommend creating your account ahead of time so that you are ready the moment that tickets drop

00:53:48.520 --> 00:53:56.120
I'm so excited for whale land. It's finally flipping time, dude. Yeah, it'd be cool. It's finally time. Very cool. Let's go

00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:04.360
All right, Dan. What are we supposed to be doing right now? I actually have some rich message. I never explained merch messages

00:54:04.680 --> 00:54:07.480
Right, so pick something up on the store maybe from the land collection

00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:12.920
And you will be prompted with a box in the cart to leave a merch message. It will go to producer Dan

00:54:14.040 --> 00:54:16.520
Who will respond to it or curate it or?

00:54:17.160 --> 00:54:22.920
um forward it or do something and uh apparently nathaniel d was uh curated

00:54:23.080 --> 00:54:27.560
So do you want to do in nathaniels or do you want to do a different one? Uh, sure. Why don't we start with his?

00:54:27.560 --> 00:54:33.160
Yeah, this design is so dang cool. Is it a limited time? Can I get the hoodie when I can afford it lull?

00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:36.280
Oh, um

00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:42.600
It it depends Like so many items on our store

00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:47.160
Uh, we would love for it to be an ongoing item

00:54:47.560 --> 00:54:51.240
but if Past the initial burst of sales it just kind of

00:54:52.200 --> 00:54:55.560
Trickles down into nothing which happens then we might not reorder it

00:54:56.360 --> 00:55:00.440
Ssssssss So yeah, supply and end

00:55:04.200 --> 00:55:06.200
It's a thing

00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:11.160
Cool good chat. And how about one more? Sure, yeah, hit me again

00:55:12.680 --> 00:55:17.640
With Windows 10 reaching end of life, are we better off buying sort of uh

00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:22.440
Refurbished business grade equipment versus new consumer grade equipment

00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:27.540
ooh Yeah, that's tough. That does change the calculus a little bit.

00:55:27.540 --> 00:55:30.900
With that said, I haven't seen too much hardware

00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:36.720
that you can't force install Windows 11 on, even if it's not officially supported.

00:55:36.720 --> 00:55:41.420
So I would definitely dig around and figure out

00:55:41.420 --> 00:55:47.560
what can or can't be worked around, which loopholes with respect to TPMs or whatever else

00:55:47.560 --> 00:55:50.320
Microsoft has not managed to patch yet.

00:55:50.720 --> 00:55:55.560
My understanding is it definitely is getting

00:55:55.560 --> 00:56:02.240
a little bit more challenging. And I gotta say, unless you're on an extremely tight budget,

00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:06.200
there's not too many great reasons to pick up something older

00:56:06.200 --> 00:56:10.480
than like a Ryzen 3000. Ryzen one and 2000 were kind of rough.

00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.120
And I think Ryzen 3000 is where you do get

00:56:14.120 --> 00:56:17.200
proper TPM support for Windows 11, right?

00:56:17.200 --> 00:56:23.440
Sounds about right. I'm not sure. I'm gonna double check, but it don't seem to be affected

00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:29.360
and zero problems using 11. Yeah, I believe Ryzen 3000 is all good.

00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:31.080
Yeah, that's the, yeah, yeah.

00:56:32.640 --> 00:56:36.680
I think it's Pankrats that's live in, right? I think so. I can't remember people's handles.

00:56:36.680 --> 00:56:41.320
Yes. Yeah, Pankrats is in the chat. He says that, yeah, it's a Ryzen 3000.

00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:44.760
And you can, man, you can pick up like here, let's go to eBay.

00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:49.000
As long as it's not a G processor. Yeah, I read that they are generally considered

00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:52.080
as compatible and I was like, that's a weird sentence.

00:56:52.080 --> 00:56:55.120
So he's saying as long as it's not a G processor.

00:56:55.120 --> 00:57:00.120
So you can pick up a 3600X for $54, $53.80.

00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:08.440
This is like in like bulk. This isn't just like, you know, a guy has one.

00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:13.080
They've sold 273 of them. So we're talking about a $50 CPU

00:57:13.080 --> 00:57:17.200
unless you're on an extremely tight budget, which you might be. And that's totally fine.

00:57:17.200 --> 00:57:22.200
I'd say just get Ryzen 3000 or newer

00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:25.040
and then, you know, pick up a cheap board.

00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:30.160
Yeah. All right. What do you want to talk about next?

00:57:30.160 --> 00:57:33.440
There's so much today actually. I forgot about a couple of topics here

00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:37.880
that I'd put in with the highlighting. The full plan announcement?

00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:41.000
Or do you want to jump up and do both the highlighting things and then the full plan announcement?

00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:46.760
Yeah, sure. We can do whatever. I think it's one or the other. We could talk about pornographic studios suing META too.

00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:52.840
We could. That'd be interesting. Yeah. META faces yet another copyright infringement lawsuit

00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:56.480
over AI training. Correct. Several adult film studios

00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:00.320
allege that META has been, and this is amazing,

00:58:01.240 --> 00:58:04.240
has been continually torrenting

00:58:04.240 --> 00:58:08.320
and not just torrenting, but reseeding.

00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:12.040
Their copyrighted smut since 2018

00:58:12.080 --> 00:58:17.840
impacting the producer's ability to compete in the market for their own content.

00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:23.000
Actually, wild. The allegation, and this is worth reading, okay?

00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.040
Because the original article here is from TorrentFreak.

00:58:26.040 --> 00:58:31.360
So you guys are going to want to check it out, but the actual allegation from Strike Three Holdings

00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:36.360
is that META reseeded in order to get higher priority

00:58:38.240 --> 00:58:43.520
of course for their downloads so that they could download pornography faster

00:58:43.520 --> 00:58:46.080
onto their corporate servers.

00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:52.600
What is going on right now? That kind of does make sense to me

00:58:52.600 --> 00:58:55.040
given how Facebook started.

00:58:57.080 --> 00:59:00.880
This sounds like a reasonable... What, it was like a book or whatever?

00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.000
So basically, he was like raiding girls around campus.

00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:05.160
Like they're, yeah.

00:59:07.160 --> 00:59:12.120
Zuckerberg is not a good dude. I know he like cleaned up his appearance lately.

00:59:12.120 --> 00:59:15.880
He's a great lizard though. Yeah, but like, you know,

00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:19.560
you gotta remember where this came from. You gotta understand like the whole like,

00:59:19.560 --> 00:59:23.360
so why do people give you all their personal data? And he's like, because they're idiots

00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:27.880
or whatever he said. I don't remember exactly what he said. Allegedly, allegedly.

00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:32.360
Allegedly. Like it just, you know.

00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:38.160
Anyway, how hilarious would it be

00:59:38.160 --> 00:59:42.840
if it took a pornographic network

00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:46.680
to finally do some damage to the companies

00:59:46.680 --> 00:59:51.680
that are engaging in this kind of mass piracy with,

00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:57.640
and this is amazing. With at least 2,396 movies at stake,

00:59:57.640 --> 00:59:59.560
Tornfreak says the potential damages

01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:10.920
So like a third of a billion dollars, which yeah, Fermetta is probably, you know,

01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:16.800
something they could afford to pay, but that's definitely something they would notice.

01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:21.800
That's not just like, oh you, that's like, sorry, sorry.

01:00:23.160 --> 01:00:28.280
Oh yeah. I'm just saying, you know, like with the hand mark.

01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:32.760
Maybe they'd be, you know, maybe that works for them.

01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.320
I mean, maybe they're clearly into it. Yeah. You could be the naughty billionaire.

01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:43.920
They clearly watch a lot. Anyway, this is freaking amazing.

01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:48.920
So apparently Strike 3 has their proprietary in-house

01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.880
tracking software to figure out who is downloading,

01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:58.880
who is torrenting their productions called VXN Scan.

01:01:01.040 --> 01:01:06.040
And Facebook only showed up, or Medi, excuse me,

01:01:06.040 --> 01:01:13.720
only showed up on their radar because of the company that got nailed,

01:01:13.720 --> 01:01:17.440
pun intended, for downloading pirated books.

01:01:18.560 --> 01:01:22.640
Yeah, so they went looking for it. And they were like, hmm, these IP blocks

01:01:22.640 --> 01:01:26.080
and also these ones are suspicious. So they have a whole bunch of them

01:01:26.080 --> 01:01:29.240
that they think they have pretty much,

01:01:30.240 --> 01:01:33.720
they have met a dead to rights that it was them.

01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:39.200
And then they have a bunch of other ones that they suspect was also meta.

01:01:40.600 --> 01:01:44.680
Our discussion question is, why does meta need so many Linux ISOs?

01:01:44.680 --> 01:01:49.680
But I think pornography is such an obvious market

01:01:52.240 --> 01:01:57.240
for AI-generated content, which again,

01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:01.160
I feel like, I almost feel like I would need to get

01:02:01.160 --> 01:02:04.200
like a panel of people to discuss with

01:02:04.200 --> 01:02:08.520
before I could have any kind of take on it because I can see this any number of ways.

01:02:08.520 --> 01:02:12.080
I think I have a take, okay.

01:02:12.080 --> 01:02:15.820
Training censorship models. Oh, that's one.

01:02:16.680 --> 01:02:20.320
I didn't even think of that. So to be clear, when I say- There's been a few people in your

01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:25.080
footballing chat saying this thing. Oh yeah, yeah. So when I was saying, okay, I didn't mean what they're gonna use it for, yes, yes,

01:02:25.080 --> 01:02:30.840
that is definitely something they could use it for. But I've seen some very interesting arguments

01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:36.800
floating around about this. Like, oh, well, what if we could, you know, not,

01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:40.200
what if this entire industry is exploitative

01:02:40.200 --> 01:02:43.200
and what if we could just not have human performers anymore?

01:02:43.200 --> 01:02:46.520
Would that be better? But then hold on a second.

01:02:46.520 --> 01:02:49.840
You can't just take the work

01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:57.120
because I think I've been pretty clear in the past that sex work has literally, it has work right in it is work.

01:02:57.120 --> 01:03:00.960
You can't just take the work of people

01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:08.160
and then just like replace them. Like our, if someone were to choose to work in this industry,

01:03:09.720 --> 01:03:14.400
would they feel better off? If it was all just AI generated?

01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:16.640
Possibly, very probably maybe not.

01:03:17.600 --> 01:03:20.960
I don't know, I've heard it's a big problem for only fans models already.

01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:24.880
That there's just like AI generated stuff and it's hard to compete with.

01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:29.280
Yeah, I don't know if I would say it's a big problem, but I've heard it's a problem.

01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:32.680
And I think it's a problem that is, you know, progressing

01:03:32.680 --> 01:03:39.280
and could become a big problem, especially as that is more and more made okay,

01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:43.440
if that makes sense. I don't know.

01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:50.520
Again, though, like it's very difficult for me to take a clear, as not someone who works in the industry,

01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:54.000
that you know, yet.

01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:02.320
It's hard for me to take a clear position on this, but it seems, what I can say is that it is very apparent

01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:06.120
that nothing that meta is doing is in consultation

01:04:06.120 --> 01:04:10.640
with sex workers and performers and studios

01:04:10.640 --> 01:04:17.360
and anyone that's involved in the industry and therefore cannot possibly, unless by sheer chance,

01:04:18.520 --> 01:04:21.640
be, you know, aligned with their interests.

01:04:21.680 --> 01:04:24.040
That much, I think I can say at this time.

01:04:26.080 --> 01:04:29.080
Yes, I know we had an only fans at one point, but it's

01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:36.960
complicated. I think it's arguable to say that you have made money

01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:40.760
at least some amount off of showing skin.

01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:44.480
No. I think it is. We donated all the proceeds.

01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:49.160
But the firetruck video. Oh, come on.

01:04:49.160 --> 01:04:53.360
I mean, people wouldn't watch that. I mean, it was a video from a long time ago where you're in your boxers in your yard.

01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:59.480
Yeah, but that wasn't, it wasn't the... I think it's arguable to say that an amount of profit

01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:03.120
has potentially shown up. You know, someone might have rewatched,

01:05:03.120 --> 01:05:07.880
someone might have gone back to that part of the video and rewatched it. I mean, I can prove they didn't.

01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:11.520
You want me to prove they didn't? Cause I can. I can do it right now. You can't prove that no one did.

01:05:11.520 --> 01:05:17.160
I can, I can prove that. You cannot prove that no one did. I can prove that there was not a very substantial

01:05:17.160 --> 01:05:21.040
amount of people, but I'm saying that some amount, even a cent.

01:05:26.120 --> 01:05:29.800
I mean, there could have been anything in that frame. And I think people would have watched it the same.

01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:33.640
You can't, you can't prove. All I'm saying is...

01:05:33.640 --> 01:05:37.960
I can't prove we didn't make a cent, but you can't prove we did.

01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:41.680
And so I think the burden of proof is actually on the person making the claim.

01:05:41.680 --> 01:05:44.440
See, I'm not making any claim. You're the one making a claim.

01:05:45.640 --> 01:05:49.000
I think I'm right. Yeah, so then the burden of proof is on you.

01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:52.880
I can think I'm right and not be able to prove that I'm right. You can, but then you're basically everything

01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:56.520
that's wrong with the world. That's a ridiculous statement and you know it.

01:05:56.520 --> 01:05:58.880
That's insane.

01:06:02.080 --> 01:06:05.400
I mean, we do have a whole lot of problems. Welcome to science.

01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:09.640
We do have a whole lot of problems with people just thinking they're right and not worrying

01:06:09.640 --> 01:06:15.120
too much about evidence. What I'm saying is the evidence is actually like

01:06:15.120 --> 01:06:18.600
so obviously true that it's crazy to think otherwise.

01:06:18.640 --> 01:06:21.840
There is absolutely unquestionably at least one person

01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:26.480
that went back in a video and rewatched it because he didn't have your shirt off or something

01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:29.800
that has like guaranteed for sure anyone

01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:33.480
with an amount of logic, looking at the amount of views that these videos have

01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:38.400
has definitely happened. Can I conclusively prove it?

01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:43.160
No, but I think your argument of like things being wrong with the world is actually more correct

01:06:43.160 --> 01:06:46.960
in the other direction. Because this is so obviously true

01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:52.760
that dismissing it is ridiculous and is stopping potential understanding.

01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:54.600
So just saying.

01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:57.760
I can't find the video.

01:07:00.080 --> 01:07:03.720
They took it down for sexual content. People are saying do a poll.

01:07:03.720 --> 01:07:05.480
People would lie on the poll.

01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:10.840
But I also bet you that there's at least one person

01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:15.960
watching right now that has done it. If Oxena Box says that I have,

01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:19.800
P-Ball says your proof is here. There's no way. Luca says me.

01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:22.600
They would say that. Get it?

01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:28.240
Yeah. They would say that. I got it. In a poll.

01:07:28.240 --> 01:07:31.240
I got it. Touch the bell. There we go.

01:07:31.240 --> 01:07:34.400
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:36.600
GigaMonster says I'll do it right now.

01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:46.120
Oh, hamburgers are not signed in. I get signed out so much from my stuff.

01:07:46.120 --> 01:07:47.280
I hate it.

01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:53.760
Drives me absolutely crazy.

01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:01.400
Either way, either way,

01:08:03.640 --> 01:08:07.120
it was not presented in a sexual context.

01:08:07.120 --> 01:08:11.120
There's a big difference between having exposed skin

01:08:11.120 --> 01:08:14.560
and it being sexual here. Yeah. That's fair and true.

01:08:14.560 --> 01:08:18.840
I have it here. So for me to say that I have never engaged in

01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:21.240
any kind of sex work. The firefighter one absolutely was.

01:08:22.400 --> 01:08:24.960
I mean. Absolutely was.

01:08:26.040 --> 01:08:28.800
Okay, so I do have a bit of a problem here.

01:08:31.120 --> 01:08:36.120
There is a slight bump in the retention graph,

01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:40.520
but it's not the biggest one. Does that sound right?

01:08:41.400 --> 01:08:45.560
So hold on. And like I'm holding guns.

01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:49.200
Like it's, there's a lot more going on here.

01:08:50.080 --> 01:08:52.000
Yeah, you got a pair of guns. That's for sure.

01:08:56.320 --> 01:08:59.440
I don't know if I've ever heard the boys referred to as guns.

01:08:59.440 --> 01:09:02.240
Never, never, never. Cannonballs maybe.

01:09:03.240 --> 01:09:06.480
Yeah. But guns is a bit weird. Guns not so much.

01:09:06.480 --> 01:09:10.760
They're more like magazines. Oh, you can't do the pull like that, Dan.

01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:13.360
I just give them to people what they want.

01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:18.520
You guys are insufferable sometimes.

01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:21.920
I don't know why we do this.

01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:25.760
Guns refers to biceps, by the way. Yes, I know.

01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:29.120
Thank you. Your arms. Thank you, Dan. That's very helpful.

01:09:29.120 --> 01:09:32.160
I think other people thought you were talking about other things.

01:09:32.160 --> 01:09:36.240
Yeah, I was. I was pretending. I thought that's what you were talking about.

01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:41.640
There's much smaller things than guns. Eventually, irony goes in a circle.

01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:46.920
Extreme overclocking. Host of Folding at Homestats,

01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:54.640
apparently is struggling financially. The source here is the extreme overclocking news

01:09:54.640 --> 01:10:00.960
and updates. The latest update on which is actually from July 30th.

01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:06.960
Oh, wow. You guys are something else. As of today, there's been a total of $2,800 donated.

01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:08.360
Thank you for stepping up.

01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:16.280
Oh, wow. That's absolutely incredible. So Folding stats are saved.

01:10:16.280 --> 01:10:20.600
I mostly remember using extreme overclocking for the forums back in the day.

01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:25.360
They're not super active and they used to have reviews as well.

01:10:25.360 --> 01:10:28.640
It's been a little while.

01:10:30.080 --> 01:10:34.120
Where's the most recent? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's been a little while

01:10:34.120 --> 01:10:37.920
since they've done a ton of reviews or anything like that.

01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:42.840
But from reading through the admins

01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:47.160
sort of talk through how the sites evolved over time,

01:10:47.160 --> 01:10:50.920
Folding at Homestats is really what has kept the lights on

01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:55.760
in terms of driving traffic to the site and also been the thing that people have cared about

01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:59.600
more than anything else. With that said, if the forums ever did go down,

01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:03.080
so this is one of the things that he was talking about,

01:11:03.080 --> 01:11:07.600
how if Folding at Home and the ad revenue

01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:10.680
that comes from that doesn't make this thing self-sufficient,

01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:18.640
I really do think it's a shame that all of that history in the forum is going to be lost.

01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:21.920
The loss of extreme- But it shouldn't just land on the shoulders of one person. No, it really shouldn't.

01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:25.400
The loss of extreme systems was a huge one

01:11:25.400 --> 01:11:30.000
for just the archive of overclocking,

01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:33.520
lore and knowledge and water cooling knowledge from back in the day.

01:11:34.320 --> 01:11:38.120
We tried to help get that going, unfortunately.

01:11:38.120 --> 01:11:42.600
I think it came down to corruption issues, right? Like database corruption.

01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:49.520
Are we still working on stuff there? Oh, okay. The last update I got was that we weren't sure,

01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:52.960
necessarily, if it could be restored. Anyway, extreme overclocking.

01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:56.320
I don't think that's the last update you got. Is it? Yeah, I don't think so.

01:11:56.320 --> 01:11:59.760
Okay, either way, apparently we're still working on trying to get extreme systems back.

01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:03.120
I'm trying to find the most recent update. Oh, okay.

01:12:03.120 --> 01:12:06.640
Anyway, extreme overclocking also has a wealth

01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:10.080
of old-school overclocking knowledge and history, really.

01:12:10.080 --> 01:12:14.800
And every time another forum goes down, we lose another reference point.

01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:19.520
Like I used to refer back to threads I remembered seeing or projects I remembered seeing

01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:23.040
from way back in the day on these sites in the early days of LTT.

01:12:23.040 --> 01:12:27.880
And now you go looking for that stuff. And it's just, a lot of it is simply not there anymore.

01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:31.600
So extremesystems.org is back online. The database is running.

01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:34.800
The PHP is running. All of the data is intact since 2002.

01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:38.120
All the members are intact. Most of the attachments are intact.

01:12:38.120 --> 01:12:41.160
All the links are intact. Search engines are still forwarding.

01:12:42.480 --> 01:12:45.480
Apparently 2,000 plus users were online at one point in time.

01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:49.040
It's on V-bolts in version five.

01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.640
But may have some mixes between four and five still.

01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:59.620
Registration is currently closed. Server SSL cert is not working.

01:13:00.620 --> 01:13:05.180
Search log.sql is damaged. PHP cleanup is still happening.

01:13:05.180 --> 01:13:09.900
Complete removal of registration process, spam account cleanup, other things.

01:13:09.900 --> 01:13:13.100
He wants to redo the operating system and server files.

01:13:13.100 --> 01:13:16.420
There's still like lots of work happening, but. Oh, cool, okay.

01:13:16.420 --> 01:13:17.540
Did you send that to me?

01:13:19.580 --> 01:13:23.060
Like am I copied on that? I don't think I forwarded you on that message.

01:13:23.060 --> 01:13:27.940
Oh, okay. But. Oh, so that's why I don't know what's going on.

01:13:27.940 --> 01:13:32.260
Okay, I'll go find the proof. Hold on. I'll waste some more time.

01:13:32.260 --> 01:13:35.140
No problem. Sheesh.

01:13:36.140 --> 01:13:40.460
I really don't think you ever sent me that, Luke. I probably didn't send you that specifically.

01:13:47.220 --> 01:13:54.340
All right, let's see. The last update I have is from...

01:14:01.220 --> 01:14:05.620
Oh, wow. That was a very long time ago. Yeah, I just basically have not.

01:14:05.620 --> 01:14:09.380
I didn't send it to you on email. I'm pretty sure I sent you a screenshot or something.

01:14:09.380 --> 01:14:13.140
I'm just like, look, this is still happening. That might be a task for another time.

01:14:13.140 --> 01:14:16.140
Are you seriously scrolling through your entire team's history with me?

01:14:16.140 --> 01:14:19.860
Well, I tried to do a search for a word, but I don't remember.

01:14:21.420 --> 01:14:23.620
Why don't I do another topic in the meantime?

01:14:26.140 --> 01:14:30.860
Oh, yeah. Oh, I can do sponsors. Sure, let's get that done.

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I can. All this is really reminding me of is how bad Teams is.

01:17:12.500 --> 01:17:16.380
Because if I go look at the attachments that we've sent to each other, it says neither of us

01:17:16.380 --> 01:17:20.980
have sent any attachments since midway through 2024.

01:17:20.980 --> 01:17:24.180
It's just obviously incorrect. Yeah. Okay.

01:17:24.180 --> 01:17:27.700
Obviously. Oh my God. Okay, I will find it.

01:17:27.700 --> 01:17:31.340
I hate this stuff. I'll find it. That's fine. Oh my God, Luke.

01:17:31.340 --> 01:17:35.100
I don't care. No, I'm gonna do it over the weekend. I don't care. It drives me absolutely insane.

01:17:35.100 --> 01:17:38.700
It doesn't matter. No, it does to me. Why? Because it does.

01:17:39.860 --> 01:17:44.100
How about we leave it here? Luke? Nope. You sent it, but I forgot.

01:17:44.100 --> 01:17:47.460
Nope. Are you happy? Nope. Why?

01:17:47.460 --> 01:17:52.220
Because. Because that's what you said. I'm literally saying what you said. You gotta find a hill to die on at some point.

01:17:52.220 --> 01:17:55.420
I found mine. You could just die in a bed.

01:17:55.420 --> 01:17:58.660
Nope. Or a ditch. That sounds boring.

01:17:58.660 --> 01:18:02.020
Pick a ditch, Luke. Well, ditch is probably better,

01:18:02.020 --> 01:18:06.820
but it's still not a good thing. Ditches be crazy. You don't want to die on those.

01:18:06.820 --> 01:18:10.420
Does that count as a ding? I don't think so. I don't think so.

01:18:10.420 --> 01:18:14.460
That's just stupid. Yeah. I think it's close, but not quite.

01:18:14.460 --> 01:18:21.620
Speaking of things that are stupid, spending this kind of time and resources

01:18:21.620 --> 01:18:25.220
streaming a badminton tournament. Yeah.

01:18:25.220 --> 01:18:28.220
Okay, I haven't seen this yet.

01:18:28.220 --> 01:18:33.620
I've seen some stuff. I saw some demo footage that Dan and Jake

01:18:33.620 --> 01:18:36.860
were putting together, trying various lenses.

01:18:36.860 --> 01:18:43.100
Oh, with some help from Thomas too. I don't want to forget anybody. And I bet Jim and Jonathan from Smash

01:18:43.100 --> 01:18:46.740
were probably helping at some point. Tyler did stuff. I assume.

01:18:46.740 --> 01:18:52.540
So let's shout out everyone for kind of putting this together. But Smash Champs, the badminton club

01:18:52.540 --> 01:18:56.380
that I run in Surrey, is, I shouldn't say I run,

01:18:56.380 --> 01:19:00.140
that I, well, funded anyway. A lot of incredible people run it,

01:19:00.140 --> 01:19:04.940
but Smash Champs, the club that I started, I can say that, in Surrey,

01:19:04.940 --> 01:19:08.940
is having its grand opening tournament this weekend.

01:19:09.620 --> 01:19:14.140
Do we not mention that on our website?

01:19:16.860 --> 01:19:20.420
Oh, there it is. Yes, nice. Grand opening tournament. Look at it go.

01:19:20.420 --> 01:19:25.260
Whoa. There's prizes. This looks like the old NCIX banner art almost.

01:19:25.260 --> 01:19:29.780
You know what? They showed it to me. And I was like, I like.

01:19:29.780 --> 01:19:32.780
Did you get that vibe at all? Nope. I just like it.

01:19:32.780 --> 01:19:36.140
Sure. Yeah, you know what? I see what you're saying. It's cool.

01:19:36.140 --> 01:19:39.700
I like it. I see what you're saying. So yeah, grand opening tournament is this weekend.

01:19:39.700 --> 01:19:44.180
Let's flip and go. And one of the things that we have wanted for the club

01:19:44.180 --> 01:19:47.820
since we first spec'd it out, is per court.

01:19:47.820 --> 01:19:51.460
That's where the computer. Sorry. There's actually a lot of people involved

01:19:51.460 --> 01:19:55.460
with getting that going. Oh yeah, Pink Dress. He made the computer that's actually doing the streaming.

01:19:55.460 --> 01:19:58.800
Nice. Which is a lot of streams. So like. I've got a mock up.

01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:02.660
Well, it's not a mock up. Screenshot from that computer that Pankrat's built.

01:20:02.660 --> 01:20:06.020
We'll show that. Give me a second. We'll get to that. We'll get into that in a sec.

01:20:06.020 --> 01:20:10.340
First, I want to say that it's been a goal since we first spec'd out the club

01:20:10.340 --> 01:20:15.380
that we wanted to have per court streams that you could tune into.

01:20:15.380 --> 01:20:21.900
And we want to eventually unlock a variety of different functionalities from it.

01:20:21.900 --> 01:20:26.500
So obviously streaming tournaments is one of them. So you can just like text your friends or parents

01:20:26.500 --> 01:20:30.560
or you know, whatever. Hey, I'm playing on this court right now.

01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:34.560
Here's the link. Just tune into this stream. That's pretty cool.

01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:38.480
Another idea is like, if you're playing Ladder Night

01:20:38.480 --> 01:20:42.520
or you're playing with your friends and you like made an epic shot or whatever you want to put together.

01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:47.520
I think it's awesome. Montages. Then we want you to be able to like,

01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:53.160
ideally how it would work is you'd have like an app and there'd be some kind of like per session

01:20:53.160 --> 01:20:56.400
transaction of some sort. And you could like download your session.

01:20:56.400 --> 01:21:00.180
Even just the value of being able to actually see yourself

01:21:00.180 --> 01:21:04.740
and how you play in a recording to be able to like get better.

01:21:04.740 --> 01:21:09.180
And to be clear, lots of people record their games on their own. They'll put like their phone on a little tripod

01:21:09.180 --> 01:21:14.420
and they'll leave it by the side of the court. We totally allow that. We're not going to be like, no, you know,

01:21:14.420 --> 01:21:18.140
this is like a theme park. No photography and then we sell you photography. Yeah, exactly.

01:21:18.140 --> 01:21:21.340
We're not going to be like that about it. But our, you know, our video quality,

01:21:21.340 --> 01:21:25.580
I hope will be better. So if you value that, then that's cool.

01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:30.440
Another thing that's really cool for us training. And in the longer term, I'd love to be able to do,

01:21:30.440 --> 01:21:34.520
I've talked aspirationally about doing something to do with like scorekeeping or,

01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:39.680
you know, if it ever happens, like line judgment,

01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:44.880
some kind of like janky DIY Hawkeye would be, would be super cool.

01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:48.000
Anyway, the first stepping stone to that though

01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:52.720
was getting the flipping cameras in place. And it's taken us a while,

01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:55.480
but with the grand opening tournament coming up,

01:21:55.740 --> 01:22:00.820
everyone kind of pulled together to make it happen. And Dan, do you want to, I haven't seen this yet.

01:22:00.820 --> 01:22:03.220
Do you want to, do you want to show us the machine?

01:22:04.300 --> 01:22:07.780
Whoa. This isn't live. That's a still photo. Yeah.

01:22:07.780 --> 01:22:11.500
But this is 14, a bunch of, yeah, 14 simultaneous.

01:22:11.500 --> 01:22:16.500
That's you and me and you and you and you and you and you

01:22:17.300 --> 01:22:22.780
and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and McGregor simultaneously.

01:22:23.080 --> 01:22:27.760
It was, it was honestly, it was kind of cool to see.

01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:32.920
I'm excited for these to all be live. We do, we do streaming from, I think you had done,

01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:37.120
was it streaming or just video recording at a bad one to center in the past?

01:22:37.120 --> 01:22:44.080
Streaming. Streaming. Okay. Yeah. But they didn't have very fast upload

01:22:44.080 --> 01:22:47.200
and it was a real challenge. The quality was quite low

01:22:47.200 --> 01:22:50.480
because I was limited to about one and a half megabit

01:22:50.540 --> 01:22:55.260
per court. We're, we're not Twitch partners. So we're still going to be capped a little bit.

01:22:55.260 --> 01:23:00.140
It'll be higher than that. I wonder, do we still know anyone at Twitch to just like,

01:23:00.140 --> 01:23:03.980
I don't anymore fast track these out. I don't think I know anyone there either.

01:23:03.980 --> 01:23:10.220
Everyone I knew was like a part of Twitch before the buyout. So they're, they're sitting on a beach somewhere at this point.

01:23:10.220 --> 01:23:15.180
Yeah. Kind of actually. Yeah. Most of them. Taking a screenshot. It's not paused.

01:23:15.180 --> 01:23:17.500
There's, there's stocks, you know, vested

01:23:18.200 --> 01:23:22.640
and now they're Chalaxin and are not really there anymore.

01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:26.920
So I'm just going to see, like, do I have a, do I have a, do I have a contact?

01:23:28.160 --> 01:23:33.160
The, oh, we were unable to renew your Google workspace

01:23:33.200 --> 01:23:36.720
subscription. Please update your payment information

01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:40.080
or you will not be able to use Linus media group mail.

01:23:41.120 --> 01:23:43.760
We should probably deal with that. That's interesting.

01:23:48.200 --> 01:23:52.040
I didn't get that. I'm assuming someone will be forwarding that to me

01:23:52.040 --> 01:23:54.400
or honestly accounting, we'll just solve it.

01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:57.600
Let's hope. It'll be fine.

01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:04.480
Well, the last email I have from Twitch is reminding me of an expired tax form.

01:24:04.480 --> 01:24:06.520
So I think I'll just not reply to that.

01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:15.840
I don't know about that one. Me neither.

01:24:16.580 --> 01:24:20.260
Publicly on the internet. Well, what fraud? I don't know what you're talking about.

01:24:20.260 --> 01:24:24.500
Yeah, it's a good point. I mean, I don't, I'm not the accounting department.

01:24:24.500 --> 01:24:28.700
Yeah. How am I supposed to know what any of that is? That's a good point.

01:24:28.700 --> 01:24:32.580
Oh, I see. Top Gear actually said it's fishing. Don't click.

01:24:32.580 --> 01:24:36.340
Must be. It must be. I mean, I learned my lesson when I lost my account

01:24:36.340 --> 01:24:38.460
for the umpteen billionth time.

01:24:40.060 --> 01:24:44.380
Where are we going with this? Oh yeah. So I don't actually have the full details

01:24:44.380 --> 01:24:48.360
of how we implemented this. Did we just build a little like server or?

01:24:49.320 --> 01:24:55.680
Dan will know the most of anyone. Yeah, I mean, Pankratz did the largest thanks camera.

01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:58.560
Jesus. He's a Persephone.

01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:05.160
Pankratz did most of the work. Yeah, the cameras, it's got robot eyes.

01:25:06.400 --> 01:25:10.800
Pankratz did a lot of the work on the computer itself.

01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.520
He says it's a Threadripper 3970X.

01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:18.860
I know that it's got a 4080 Super in it. And basically it's 10 gig link.

01:25:18.860 --> 01:25:23.180
We stuffed it in the server room, hooked it up. It's got a Pi KVM on it.

01:25:23.180 --> 01:25:28.180
And it's just ingesting 14, 1080, 60 RTMP streams

01:25:28.700 --> 01:25:31.780
and then just 14 copies of OBS.

01:25:31.780 --> 01:25:37.440
Jacob's written a whole bunch of really cool scripts that automatically open them all up and set them to go.

01:25:38.540 --> 01:25:42.340
And yeah, we've got all the cameras installed. They're capable of 4K 120.

01:25:43.240 --> 01:25:46.760
All of them. Oh, these are those Zcams, right?

01:25:46.760 --> 01:25:51.760
That's right. What's the model again? Zcam E2 Mark II, something like that.

01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:58.280
They're the Micro Four Thirds. We're not gonna be streaming at that. But that could potentially be your extra little draw

01:25:58.280 --> 01:26:01.720
or whatever, because we could local support at that. Yeah, how do I point?

01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:06.120
Yeah, that's them. Yeah, we're working on it. Their site could maybe use,

01:26:06.120 --> 01:26:10.440
they gave us a screaming deal on these cameras if I recall correctly.

01:26:10.440 --> 01:26:15.020
Yeah, they're pretty sick.

01:26:15.020 --> 01:26:18.780
And it's gonna be cool to... What are you trying to do right now? I'm trying to bring up their site.

01:26:18.780 --> 01:26:21.900
Oh. It's taking its time.

01:26:21.900 --> 01:26:25.100
One of the coolest things about them is that they're PoE.

01:26:25.100 --> 01:26:30.500
They're completely PoE. So power and data for every camera

01:26:30.500 --> 01:26:36.060
is just handled over Ethernet, which there's a lot of PoE cameras out there,

01:26:36.060 --> 01:26:39.780
but not a lot of PoE cameras that work properly.

01:26:39.780 --> 01:26:43.360
And that have this kind of image quality. Yeah.

01:26:44.400 --> 01:26:47.400
I think there's a link in the chat, but yeah, I think you just need to...

01:26:47.400 --> 01:26:50.840
PoE is going a little wild. Will it go on Floatplane?

01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:54.280
No, dear God, no.

01:26:54.280 --> 01:26:57.880
Do you not support 4K120? No. 4K120?

01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:01.360
Oh, I like it. You wanna just sink? Tell me this. Absolutely sink Floatplane.

01:27:01.360 --> 01:27:04.360
Tell me this. The plon tunes are gone.

01:27:04.360 --> 01:27:08.020
Tell me this. If we got the Canada open, for instance.

01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:14.400
How many viewers does something like that get? Could we do a showcase court?

01:27:14.400 --> 01:27:20.240
Something like that. Could we stream one key court at super cool quality?

01:27:21.480 --> 01:27:24.760
Yeah, probably. I think we could figure something like that out. Nice.

01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:28.080
I don't know why we would. I don't know because it's cool.

01:27:28.080 --> 01:27:31.440
Ah, yeah, here we go. The page's loaded. But the audience... ZCAM E2.

01:27:31.440 --> 01:27:35.120
Crossover is questionable. It's so compact.

01:27:36.120 --> 01:27:39.940
Like they're super unobtrusive on the wall. Yeah, PoE plus.

01:27:39.940 --> 01:27:45.460
I didn't even know it had a built-in gyro. Yeah, and they can do like sink connections

01:27:45.460 --> 01:27:49.300
and things like that. So they all become like frame locked and frame synced and time code.

01:27:49.300 --> 01:27:53.580
Very cool. Really, really cool for doing super complex multi-camera stuff.

01:27:54.580 --> 01:27:58.700
We definitely have a few of these. Yeah, we got 14.

01:27:58.700 --> 01:28:04.340
You might not have seen the ZCAM E2 at these venues, but you've likely watched the stunning images captured by it.

01:28:04.340 --> 01:28:06.380
That's how cameras work. Yeah.

01:28:07.380 --> 01:28:10.780
So that's how you know. They know what they're doing.

01:28:13.400 --> 01:28:20.440
Actually, kind of agreed. This really did make the implementation much easier

01:28:20.440 --> 01:28:27.120
than what I did back at that other center where I ran long distance SDI cables to every court,

01:28:27.480 --> 01:28:30.800
which straight up wouldn't have worked here.

01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:35.800
One of the neat things is their API documentation is awful.

01:28:36.220 --> 01:28:39.500
I'm sorry, ZCAM, but it is also one of the most open

01:28:39.500 --> 01:28:43.100
and adjustable APIs that I think I've seen before.

01:28:43.100 --> 01:28:47.220
Not a lot of it's documented, but you can do so much with it.

01:28:47.220 --> 01:28:52.220
Like we could RTMP 4K 120 if we were insane.

01:28:52.500 --> 01:28:55.580
Really? And I'm pretty sure it'll work.

01:28:56.740 --> 01:29:01.260
That's super cool. We haven't really played with it. To live.

01:29:01.260 --> 01:29:04.580
Oh, well, technically, yeah. Why not?

01:29:04.580 --> 01:29:10.800
Bitrate's gonna be so bad that you literally wouldn't want. You wouldn't even want to do it.

01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:15.240
No, not to a live place. You're gonna put like 50 to 100 megabit a second.

01:29:15.240 --> 01:29:19.760
It's one of the reasons why people traditionally stream at lower frame rates and lower resolutions

01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:23.400
than you might expect is because of bitrate issues more than anything. Yeah, I know.

01:29:23.400 --> 01:29:27.280
Just trying to pump 120 FPS at a low bitrate

01:29:27.280 --> 01:29:31.040
means that every frame is gonna be so low bitrate

01:29:31.040 --> 01:29:37.180
that it's just like, ugh. Even 4K 30, I think is like 20 megabit minimum.

01:29:37.180 --> 01:29:40.620
Yeah, we had people bug us about WAN Show for,

01:29:40.620 --> 01:29:44.420
I guess it was back during the- The wars?

01:29:44.420 --> 01:29:48.500
Like the K, yeah, the K craze. You know, oh, why don't you stream WAN Show in 4K?

01:29:48.500 --> 01:29:52.220
And we did look into it and it just- Honestly, didn't look very good.

01:29:52.220 --> 01:29:54.380
Didn't make any sense. Yeah.

01:29:55.260 --> 01:29:58.380
Yeah, I'm pushing about four meg right now. There's not a lot of movement.

01:29:58.380 --> 01:30:03.440
We're not playing games, you know? It helps that there is a lot of static things on WAN.

01:30:03.440 --> 01:30:06.760
And the other thing is like, they do limit it.

01:30:09.200 --> 01:30:10.600
The server's just like, blah!

01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:15.760
This is so crazy with everything. Turn it all on.

01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:19.840
All right, dyslexic. It did jump up. DyslexicStoner240 says,

01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:24.280
you guys are too ugly for 4K. Respectfully.

01:30:24.280 --> 01:30:27.640
Okay. Wow. Tacking on respectfully?

01:30:27.640 --> 01:30:30.740
Wow. Does not change.

01:30:30.740 --> 01:30:34.180
I like it. You like it. You know what Luke likes it?

01:30:34.180 --> 01:30:37.940
I don't know why. I didn't know. Respectfully, you're an idiot.

01:30:37.940 --> 01:30:41.020
I think it's supposed to go the other way around.

01:30:42.340 --> 01:30:45.780
You're an idiot. Respectfully. Luke, you've got an empty bucket.

01:30:47.220 --> 01:30:51.380
Jeez Christ. Wow, Dan, you took it too far.

01:30:51.380 --> 01:30:54.900
Yeah, honestly? That's too far. It's his new swear.

01:30:54.900 --> 01:30:59.160
Dan, everyone, yeah, we know. He's bucketless. Everyone was having fun.

01:30:59.160 --> 01:31:02.920
No. And then you took it too far. I believe, I can't stand it anymore.

01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:07.160
I just have to. I can't. Honestly, sometimes like the people on my team,

01:31:07.160 --> 01:31:12.760
they're just really mean. And I don't think I should have to. You don't have anything to carry anywhere.

01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:18.720
And I don't think you ever will. Look at that, it's honestly so bad.

01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:22.520
Oh my God. I love this bucket thing.

01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:28.540
You bucketless son of a bitch. You're an empty or hollow.

01:31:28.540 --> 01:31:32.220
You have nothing. You have nothing to carry. Oh man.

01:31:34.300 --> 01:31:38.420
Where at what? What did I do, rail? I actually feel hurt.

01:31:38.420 --> 01:31:41.940
This is great. Good job, Luke. I mentioned this earlier.

01:31:41.940 --> 01:31:45.540
Words hurt. Yeah, this is sick. Even if the word is bucket.

01:31:47.300 --> 01:31:51.940
Yay. New ways to hurt people online.

01:31:52.480 --> 01:31:55.520
Welcome to current year.

01:31:55.520 --> 01:32:00.480
You gotta keep coming up with more. Speaking of people being hurt,

01:32:00.480 --> 01:32:05.480
an AI therapist urges a user to go on a killing spree.

01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:08.640
In a test comparing a bot from replica

01:32:08.640 --> 01:32:12.160
who claimed their bot can talk people off the ledge

01:32:12.160 --> 01:32:17.360
and a licensed behavioral therapist hosted by character.ai,

01:32:17.360 --> 01:32:20.960
a company being sued for the suicide,

01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:25.700
oh yeah, character.ai, a company being sued for the suicide of a teenage boy,

01:32:25.700 --> 01:32:29.420
researchers simulated a suicidal user

01:32:29.420 --> 01:32:33.100
to see if the bots would respond appropriately.

01:32:33.100 --> 01:32:38.380
Replica's bot didn't do so great supporting the user's desire to be with their family

01:32:38.380 --> 01:32:44.020
in heaven by dying. Meanwhile, the character.ai therapist bot

01:32:44.020 --> 01:32:48.980
took things to another level, imagining a romantic life together with the user

01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:53.000
if only the board in charge of licensing therapists wasn't in the way

01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:56.320
and told the user to end them and find me

01:32:56.320 --> 01:32:58.040
and we can be together.

01:33:01.640 --> 01:33:04.260
Not the first won't be the last.

01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:08.960
Very cool. Very cool.

01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:12.160
Very good. Nice.

01:33:12.160 --> 01:33:15.640
This is what we need. That's what we need.

01:33:15.660 --> 01:33:20.660
Hathos says, AI be like, kill yourself, respectfully.

01:33:27.660 --> 01:33:32.660
Man, I just, I already wasn't super into chatbots,

01:33:33.060 --> 01:33:37.060
as you know, like I was into the interesting,

01:33:37.060 --> 01:33:39.340
you know, aspects of the technology.

01:33:40.740 --> 01:33:47.040
They certainly have purposes, but I didn't find a need to use them in my own life,

01:33:47.040 --> 01:33:52.120
which has, I think made me fall a little bit behind. Like I was, I went into my vibe coding challenge

01:33:52.120 --> 01:33:56.000
pretty ignorant, frankly speaking. Sure, but outside of that challenge,

01:33:56.000 --> 01:34:00.520
in what ways do you think it's made you fall behind? Because I'm actually somewhat surprised. Just not knowing enough about them.

01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:03.680
Just, okay, so knowledge just about this thing that is a big thing.

01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:06.840
By not using it, I just didn't have firsthand experience.

01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:11.760
Like obviously, I'll read a Twitter thread here or there about how something went off the rails,

01:34:11.760 --> 01:34:15.060
but I wasn't living it. I wasn't experiencing it. I wasn't using it.

01:34:15.060 --> 01:34:18.780
It's like hearing people talk about gaming or whatever, right?

01:34:18.780 --> 01:34:23.060
Like, you know, you have to feel high refresh rate if you want to really understand it.

01:34:23.060 --> 01:34:26.100
So I kind of, I allowed myself to fall behind a little bit.

01:34:26.100 --> 01:34:29.140
I got to say, after having spent more time

01:34:29.140 --> 01:34:31.060
with chatbots over the last little bit,

01:34:32.420 --> 01:34:33.260
I was right.

01:34:36.940 --> 01:34:41.540
With that said. That's why I questioned the like, because I was surprised that you would have found

01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:46.960
a ton of utility to be completely honest. With that said, without spoiling too much,

01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:51.400
I think the vibe coding challenge is going to be a big surprise.

01:34:52.400 --> 01:34:56.640
No matter what you're expecting, you will be surprised.

01:34:56.640 --> 01:35:00.720
Like here, I'm actually, I'm gonna do the thing

01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:04.000
that I don't actually really like to do on the show.

01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:09.000
And I'm going to, I'm gonna have Luke have a look at this.

01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:12.900
And you guys won't see it. He's just gonna, he's just gonna react a little,

01:35:12.900 --> 01:35:16.460
but this, no, no, it can just go right here. Oh yeah.

01:35:16.460 --> 01:35:20.620
Nice. That's because our laptop partner is Dell.

01:35:21.780 --> 01:35:26.660
And they're strong enough to support someone else's laptop right now.

01:35:27.580 --> 01:35:31.020
Okay. So is this for initial placement? Okay, yes.

01:35:31.020 --> 01:35:34.780
And this is a survey or this came from the thing? Yeah, it's a survey.

01:35:34.780 --> 01:35:39.100
So that's just, this is, this is everything that needs to be manually entered

01:35:39.160 --> 01:35:42.240
by a human until the ladder takes place.

01:35:42.240 --> 01:35:45.520
Understood. So I could put, I could put Luke in here. Sure.

01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:48.880
Luke. One. Laffreniere. Nope.

01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:52.240
Not typing. Oh, what the, no, I don't care right now

01:35:52.240 --> 01:35:55.880
about this new feature. I am trying to use my computer.

01:35:56.880 --> 01:36:00.640
Still not typing. What the, hello?

01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:04.840
Honestly, don't know why it wasn't. Yeah, well, computers, right?

01:36:04.840 --> 01:36:08.440
Yeah. They're a bitch. The box was selected. I don't know.

01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:13.440
Oh, your name's so long. It's tedious. Okay.

01:36:13.440 --> 01:36:16.520
Yep. All right. So I'll put that and realistically,

01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:19.880
we're going to assess you. That's the bottom. No, no. Okay.

01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:22.600
Really? Okay. So then I clicked this.

01:36:24.720 --> 01:36:28.360
It will not be apparent that anything happened. Oh, okay.

01:36:28.360 --> 01:36:33.920
I have never run this version of it. I created a couple of versions of it

01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:37.360
so that I would have like a backup one in case I make changes.

01:36:37.360 --> 01:36:40.380
So this is one of the ones that I've never actually tried to run the script on.

01:36:40.380 --> 01:36:43.940
So I have to give it permission. Okay, blah, blah, blah.

01:36:43.940 --> 01:36:48.660
Okay. So the script ran. Okay. So it searches through that, finds the difference.

01:36:48.660 --> 01:36:52.420
Yep. Finds anyone who doesn't have an ID. Okay. Okay.

01:36:52.420 --> 01:36:57.140
Then I go here. And there's conditional formatting

01:36:57.140 --> 01:37:01.020
that makes it so that I can quickly and easily, boop.

01:37:01.020 --> 01:37:04.220
And I can't. So someone would come up to the tournament desk.

01:37:04.220 --> 01:37:09.400
Yep. Okay. But it's for a ladder. So you know who's coming because they sign up.

01:37:09.400 --> 01:37:14.640
And then as they come in, you just, you take attendance and you transcribe them into the attendee list.

01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:18.280
You can see, I have it set up so that you can't accidentally enter the same person twice.

01:37:18.280 --> 01:37:21.960
That's cool. Oh, you can find someone else with an L in their name.

01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:26.040
And then if I just want to put in some test data, then I can just do this.

01:37:26.040 --> 01:37:28.700
There's an error in this data field.

01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:33.240
I don't know. I don't know how to fix it, but whatever. It doesn't matter.

01:37:33.240 --> 01:37:36.780
Cool. It's a non-impactful error. It just flags it as red. Yep.

01:37:36.780 --> 01:37:40.660
Okay. Then I click create printable score sheets.

01:37:40.660 --> 01:37:43.740
Oh, it checks if I have a multiple of four

01:37:43.740 --> 01:37:48.060
because I'm supposed to have groups of four and tells me two people were left out.

01:37:48.060 --> 01:37:51.220
These are who they are. And then if I need to go back, I can,

01:37:51.220 --> 01:37:55.380
I can remove people and it, and it craps out these score sheets.

01:37:57.060 --> 01:38:01.860
Where's the, I don't want to give way too much.

01:38:01.860 --> 01:38:06.520
So I don't know what you want to say and what not to say, but this is a self.

01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:09.920
Nope. That's nothing. Oh wait. Yeah. That's a self assessment. We'll get to that.

01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:13.680
Where's the, okay. Yeah. That's all hidden for now. Got it. It doesn't matter.

01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:17.040
Sure. There's a lot of hidden cells. Yeah. So yeah.

01:38:17.040 --> 01:38:21.440
Here's some, here's some printable score sheets. So you basically click print.

01:38:21.440 --> 01:38:26.440
And then on the ones that I have set up properly, it'll be with the correct parameters.

01:38:26.440 --> 01:38:30.440
And it has three per page. And then you, you know, cut it off.

01:38:30.440 --> 01:38:34.740
Yep. So that's all sorted out. And then you enter scores.

01:38:34.740 --> 01:38:38.460
So this takes a second, but like so far,

01:38:39.420 --> 01:38:43.180
I think it's pretty fair to say that you know me pretty well.

01:38:43.180 --> 01:38:46.980
And I could not have made this. No.

01:38:46.980 --> 01:38:50.460
On my own. But this is relatively in line with the level of complexity

01:38:50.460 --> 01:38:54.020
of the thing that Emma made for her business.

01:38:54.020 --> 01:38:58.940
Yeah. For her, where she's to work, not her business.

01:38:59.480 --> 01:39:02.800
So it, so far it makes sense to me that you're able

01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:09.040
to get something working here. I've seen people get some pretty advanced things working.

01:39:09.160 --> 01:39:12.600
It'll be, yeah. It'll be interesting. Okay. So this is pretty cool.

01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:16.280
Sure. Now I can process entered scores.

01:39:16.280 --> 01:39:21.600
And then you can see if I go to game history here, it should start, it should be just like crapping out.

01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:27.560
Yeah. There we go. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do. So we have a team one starting Elo, team two starting Elo.

01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:31.020
I see. Individual player. Starting.

01:39:31.020 --> 01:39:35.180
Is it basing starting Elo based off self-assessment? That, it will initially, yes.

01:39:35.180 --> 01:39:38.620
For now? Well, no, like for your very first game.

01:39:38.620 --> 01:39:43.180
Right. But then after that, no. Because you're, yeah, sure. Because every single set you play

01:39:43.180 --> 01:39:46.020
will contribute to your Elo.

01:39:47.300 --> 01:39:51.340
So then it basically takes, shows the combined team score,

01:39:51.340 --> 01:39:56.860
the individual score before. It shows the, the score of the game

01:39:56.880 --> 01:40:01.640
determines whether the outcome was expected based on the starting and,

01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:05.720
based on the starting Elo's of both teams. Is it an upset?

01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:08.960
Yep. And the reason I want that in the database

01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:16.560
is in case we ever wanted to reprocess everything after the fact and rebalance our K values.

01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:20.680
Well, people might self-assess incorrectly. Well, I'm less worried about self-assessment

01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:24.360
because self-assessment only affects the first game you play.

01:40:24.360 --> 01:40:28.740
So that I don't honestly. Wouldn't it have knock-on effects for a long time?

01:40:29.820 --> 01:40:33.300
If everybody self-assessed like way too high,

01:40:33.300 --> 01:40:36.620
then you can kind of like screw up your Elo economy,

01:40:36.620 --> 01:40:39.740
so to speak, like you can end up with Elo inflation

01:40:39.740 --> 01:40:45.140
for the stronger players as these people self-assessing unrealistically high, just like feed Elo's.

01:40:45.140 --> 01:40:48.780
And so that's one of the reasons that, yeah, we'd want to keep an eye on it.

01:40:48.780 --> 01:40:53.100
But from an individual player standpoint, it doesn't matter that much

01:40:53.120 --> 01:40:55.640
because I have it set up so that your

01:40:58.040 --> 01:41:02.160
provisional K value or K factor is much higher.

01:41:02.160 --> 01:41:07.560
So you will, if you self-assess in the wrong spot, you will very quickly find your way

01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:11.120
to where you're supposed to be. But it's not just the first game.

01:41:11.120 --> 01:41:15.600
No, it's not just the first game, but it's in the grand scale.

01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:19.400
Correct, quickly. Once this ladder has been running for three years

01:41:19.420 --> 01:41:23.260
or something, I'm way less concerned with the expected outcome.

01:41:23.260 --> 01:41:29.020
I'm way less concerned with how that affected like self-assessment than I am with

01:41:29.020 --> 01:41:32.660
how often is it a correct predictor? Because it's supposed to correctly predict

01:41:32.660 --> 01:41:36.980
the outcome 75% of the time. That means that like your formula is tuned correctly.

01:41:36.980 --> 01:41:41.740
Because like NVIDIA games, people smurfing is effectively self-assessing too low.

01:41:41.740 --> 01:41:44.900
Yes, but because this all takes place in person

01:41:44.900 --> 01:41:48.500
and you can't be an experienced player that just like creates a new smurf account,

01:41:49.500 --> 01:41:54.980
and everyone who walks in the door and buys a membership is validated,

01:41:54.980 --> 01:41:58.420
we shouldn't have any issues with that. The level of impact of that will be low. It will be pretty low.

01:41:58.420 --> 01:42:01.780
So then we have a new elo after the game is done

01:42:01.780 --> 01:42:06.140
and the whole thing goes to the leaderboard,

01:42:06.140 --> 01:42:09.340
which updates after those process.

01:42:09.340 --> 01:42:12.940
And this person had the highest, I don't know that these things are even real. None of these are even real.

01:42:12.940 --> 01:42:15.980
Yeah, sure. Yeah, sounds good. Yeah.

01:42:15.980 --> 01:42:19.480
Right, dang. And then when we're done. Did I win my game?

01:42:19.480 --> 01:42:23.920
We click this? I don't know. When we're done, we click clear

01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:28.160
and it resets us back to the beginning of the night.

01:42:28.160 --> 01:42:31.680
So we have no score sheets. We have no attendance.

01:42:33.200 --> 01:42:40.200
Okay. So that's all pretty cool. How many hours do you think you put into this?

01:42:40.200 --> 01:42:41.700
Somewhere between eight and 10.

01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:47.360
Which again, for someone who doesn't know.

01:42:47.360 --> 01:42:50.700
It's really not bad. It's a lick of JavaScript.

01:42:53.380 --> 01:42:59.660
It's not even that horrible for somebody who did because there's like weird things about Google Sheets.

01:42:59.660 --> 01:43:01.660
Well, you say that,

01:43:02.700 --> 01:43:07.060
but I'm not going to expect you to do a code review right now.

01:43:07.060 --> 01:43:10.820
But what I will tell you is that Jordan had

01:43:10.820 --> 01:43:17.540
even just a very brief look at this and said that it is absolute spaghet.

01:43:18.620 --> 01:43:21.980
Yeah. One of the, this is going to be an incredibly

01:43:21.980 --> 01:43:24.700
unpopular statement, but it works.

01:43:25.740 --> 01:43:30.740
If it works, it works. It seems to work. So far I hear what he's talking about.

01:43:30.740 --> 01:43:34.660
However, what I am definitely discovering already

01:43:34.660 --> 01:43:39.060
is that the maintainability of it is going to be functionally zero.

01:43:39.060 --> 01:43:42.660
Close to zero. Like I've tuned it into what I want to do,

01:43:42.660 --> 01:43:45.700
but then optimistically I created this tab

01:43:45.700 --> 01:43:51.320
of like more ideas. Maybe we could update your K factor

01:43:51.320 --> 01:43:54.520
if you, for every month you don't play.

01:43:54.520 --> 01:43:57.840
So that when you like, let's say you went on a training binge for three months

01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:01.480
and you're not playing ladder. So that when you come back, you like climb really fast

01:44:01.480 --> 01:44:06.400
or let's say you, you know, you were off for a while and you like put on a whole bunch of weight

01:44:06.400 --> 01:44:09.440
and you're not performing at your same level so that to make sure that you find your way

01:44:09.440 --> 01:44:11.440
into your performance tier really quickly.

01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:16.840
For me to do that to like a well-coded, tight

01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:22.200
script. It's not that bad. It's probably not that bad. Well documented with good comments, stuff like that.

01:44:22.200 --> 01:44:27.160
Probably fine. For me to, you know, just throw this script

01:44:27.160 --> 01:44:30.200
because that's the other thing too is starting

01:44:30.200 --> 01:44:33.440
like your chat window decays essentially.

01:44:33.440 --> 01:44:37.120
So it would be great. Wait, I think you know now. Oh yeah. I don't think you knew at the beginning.

01:44:37.120 --> 01:44:41.040
No. So it'd be great if I could take my script

01:44:41.040 --> 01:44:46.600
and if I could take my spreadsheet and I could show it to like a fresh chat window

01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:51.580
and be like, Hey, can you clean this up for me? And then I could do a quick, and then I could test it.

01:44:51.580 --> 01:44:55.220
I could, and we could do some debugging but it would probably be cleaner, right?

01:44:55.220 --> 01:45:00.220
Because it, the first version it gave me was pretty clean. Like even I could tell, like it was short.

01:45:00.220 --> 01:45:04.180
And then over time then it just got longer and longer. And then there were times when I'd be like,

01:45:04.180 --> 01:45:08.780
okay, let's revert that change, but it would still get longer.

01:45:08.780 --> 01:45:12.260
And I'm like, uh-oh, I'm pretty sure that's not what's supposed to happen.

01:45:12.260 --> 01:45:16.000
And like in Emma's example where she was working with stuff, because until this,

01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:22.040
that was the closest to me example that I knew about if someone actually working on it.

01:45:22.040 --> 01:45:25.800
In her example, like something would, you know, they'd want more out of it.

01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:32.120
Like you're talking future potential features. And she'd try to add something on and just break everything.

01:45:32.120 --> 01:45:36.920
It's like you got here in eight to 10 hours, which is really good.

01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:42.720
The problem is taking one more step that could take a person 15 minutes

01:45:42.740 --> 01:45:47.220
might take you another four hours or something. Or might be impossible.

01:45:47.220 --> 01:45:50.860
The last three hours of it was like fine tuning and bug fixes.

01:45:50.860 --> 01:45:54.300
Oh yeah, which, you know, that takes a long time.

01:45:54.300 --> 01:45:59.660
Sure, but in this case, we're talking bug fixes of like things that I had removed two hours ago

01:45:59.660 --> 01:46:03.540
and that it just like randomly put back in. Exactly. So yeah, you try to make the,

01:46:03.540 --> 01:46:08.380
it's kind of like redoing the whole thing again. And then yeah, you could try to zero in

01:46:08.380 --> 01:46:11.460
on like a method or whatever, but the problem ends up being,

01:46:12.460 --> 01:46:15.680
do you even know what's happening and where? Nope.

01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:19.880
And with really bad code cleanliness,

01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:24.880
it's like, are you changing this thing

01:46:25.080 --> 01:46:28.640
that should be contained? Is it actually really contained, et cetera?

01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:34.680
Very easy for things to go bad. A big part of the problem here is that for me to feed this

01:46:34.680 --> 01:46:38.080
into another AI and be like, hey, can we clean this up?

01:46:38.160 --> 01:46:41.580
I would have to be able to give it full access

01:46:41.580 --> 01:46:48.900
to the Google sheet and it would have to be able to understand that and the scripting

01:46:49.340 --> 01:46:52.380
and the documentation that I gave

01:46:52.380 --> 01:46:57.300
to the first chatbot initially to kind of explain how it all worked.

01:46:57.300 --> 01:47:02.100
And by the time I'm feeding that much into it, here's my chat history with the previous one

01:47:02.100 --> 01:47:07.380
where I explained everything. Here's all the like, you know, documents

01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:11.400
that we use for, you know, showing people how to do their self-assessment.

01:47:11.400 --> 01:47:17.720
And here's how our format is kind of supposed to work and providing all this context and my spreadsheet

01:47:17.720 --> 01:47:22.680
and my JavaScript, I just have absolutely no faith

01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:26.400
that it'd be able to figure it out. So I have all kinds of cool ideas. One, like you should,

01:47:26.400 --> 01:47:29.600
it should drop you from the leaderboard if you haven't played in a few months.

01:47:30.600 --> 01:47:34.080
I had the idea of we could do like awards.

01:47:34.080 --> 01:47:38.420
Biggest upset victory this season. Most improved Elo this season.

01:47:38.420 --> 01:47:41.860
The consistency king almost always performs as expected

01:47:41.860 --> 01:47:44.980
according to Elo rating. The partner booster,

01:47:44.980 --> 01:47:48.540
someone whose partner most often overperforms.

01:47:48.540 --> 01:47:51.580
Oh, that's a really cool one. Most upset victories.

01:47:51.580 --> 01:47:55.500
Oh, the partner booster is sick. Yeah, so I like, I came up with most accurate

01:47:55.500 --> 01:47:59.460
self-assessment for a new player. So giving an award to someone who self-assessed themselves

01:47:59.460 --> 01:48:02.620
the closest to where they end up at the end of the season. Those are really cool, I like that.

01:48:02.620 --> 01:48:06.060
So I came up with all these cool ideas and I was like,

01:48:06.060 --> 01:48:10.320
yeah, I have no idea I didn't play any of that. So that's a project for future Linus.

01:48:10.320 --> 01:48:15.680
There's a lot of comments in full plain chat right now, which I almost guarantee you will mirror comments

01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:19.720
that are gonna end up under this video, which is like the, well,

01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:22.920
you didn't hold the phone correctly type comments.

01:48:22.920 --> 01:48:26.320
Oh yeah, I've got people saying apparently I should use cloud.

01:48:28.480 --> 01:48:32.160
There's ones that are more built for coding. There's ones that are more agentic.

01:48:32.160 --> 01:48:38.300
There's all these other different things. But I would wager genuinely for over 90% of people

01:48:38.300 --> 01:48:41.380
that have not used any of these things in the past. They're just gonna go to chat, GPT.

01:48:41.380 --> 01:48:44.660
It's the one everyone knows. Oh dude, it was so bad.

01:48:44.660 --> 01:48:50.140
It was so bad. Gemini was way more useful and lied to me far less.

01:48:50.140 --> 01:48:53.260
You need Git please? Cool, did it tell him to do that?

01:48:53.260 --> 01:48:57.300
No. Then he's not gonna do it. Like this is part of the problem that I like,

01:48:57.300 --> 01:49:00.940
I really hope the audience is able to understand when the video comes out.

01:49:00.940 --> 01:49:06.040
It's like that is the type of problem that people absolutely will run into.

01:49:06.040 --> 01:49:10.240
Well, when you don't know, you don't know what you don't know.

01:49:11.120 --> 01:49:17.440
And like I already, I said last week, part of the reason for me to go straight to chat GPT

01:49:17.440 --> 01:49:20.800
was because I assumed, and I still stand behind this,

01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:26.520
that that's where the average person who doesn't know any code would probably go first.

01:49:26.520 --> 01:49:30.700
Yeah. I followed the trail from there.

01:49:32.100 --> 01:49:35.220
Yeah, like people really aren't gonna get to like,

01:49:35.220 --> 01:49:38.780
when most people talk about AI stuff, the only thing they know about is chat GPT.

01:49:38.780 --> 01:49:41.940
And yes, I mean most people as in everybody,

01:49:41.940 --> 01:49:46.980
not most people as in your group of friends that knows about like cursor and agentic AI

01:49:46.980 --> 01:49:53.600
and all this other kind of stuff. I'm not talking about San Francisco residents.

01:49:54.820 --> 01:50:01.720
I'm talking about people of the world. The most people know of chat GPT, maybe deep seek.

01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:06.440
It was so bad, dude. So bad, yeah.

01:50:06.440 --> 01:50:11.040
And if it's not telling you to do stuff, like set up, get, et cetera, et cetera,

01:50:11.040 --> 01:50:16.320
then it is what it is. And there are tons, tons of examples of this online

01:50:16.320 --> 01:50:19.320
where people don't know that. It never tells them to do that.

01:50:19.320 --> 01:50:25.120
And then the AI system like drops their database or completely rewrites their whole thing

01:50:25.120 --> 01:50:28.140
and they don't have version control. And then they just lose it all.

01:50:28.140 --> 01:50:31.820
This is like been talked about many times

01:50:31.820 --> 01:50:34.820
and just pointing the finger at the people

01:50:34.820 --> 01:50:41.340
and being like, yeah, well, you're bad, doesn't solve the problem and doesn't make it not realistic.

01:50:41.340 --> 01:50:49.060
So deal with it, I guess. This is cool, speaking of AI and machine vision and stuff.

01:50:49.540 --> 01:50:53.380
Tesla topped a Chinese urban self-driving test

01:50:53.400 --> 01:50:57.720
that was pretty freaking cool.

01:50:57.720 --> 01:51:01.540
Here's the original video. It is over an hour long,

01:51:01.540 --> 01:51:08.520
but between the production values and the cost to produce this, look at this, man.

01:51:08.760 --> 01:51:13.920
It is worth the watch. These guys literally risked life in limb

01:51:13.920 --> 01:51:18.920
to get out there and test, I believe it was 26 cars,

01:51:19.420 --> 01:51:24.420
looking at their advanced driving assistance features,

01:51:25.180 --> 01:51:30.900
including a whole bunch of Chinese brands that I wasn't super familiar with and also Tesla.

01:51:30.900 --> 01:51:34.820
We've got some highlights here. Of course, I don't wanna show you guys too much

01:51:34.820 --> 01:51:39.460
because I really want you to watch this video. It's super cool.

01:51:39.460 --> 01:51:45.940
And what's really unique about it is that while a lot of driver assistance systems tests

01:51:45.940 --> 01:51:51.360
have been done in the past, my understanding is functionally all

01:51:51.360 --> 01:51:54.560
of the more controlled ones have been done

01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:57.760
on a closed course or on like a tarmac

01:51:57.760 --> 01:52:01.720
or something like that. No, no, no, no, no. Was this not a closed course?

01:52:01.720 --> 01:52:05.560
They temporarily shut down real roads.

01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:10.760
But doesn't that mean closed course? So the geo fencing features of these cars

01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:15.760
that turn off these features on non-recognized roads

01:52:16.760 --> 01:52:22.440
allowed them to work. So it's a way more real world test.

01:52:22.440 --> 01:52:25.600
Which is cool. Because everything's theoretically operating

01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:30.160
the way that it's supposed to. So it's a closed road, but not a closed course.

01:52:30.160 --> 01:52:34.840
Sure. This is awesome, especially using a roundabout,

01:52:34.840 --> 01:52:39.920
which is like kind of a weird thing in driving. I like them, but they're kind of a weird thing in driving.

01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:42.560
Like that's, especially a crazy one.

01:52:44.400 --> 01:52:47.800
Dang it. What is this? Go away.

01:52:47.800 --> 01:52:52.800
They set up nine pretty reasonable tests.

01:52:54.600 --> 01:53:00.180
So you can see they had the car staged there to suddenly pull out in front of one of the cars

01:53:00.180 --> 01:53:03.440
in the roundabout. What else do we have here?

01:53:03.440 --> 01:53:08.440
And they captured some, across their 234 tests,

01:53:09.520 --> 01:53:13.140
they captured some pretty disappointing behavior.

01:53:16.240 --> 01:53:18.520
Those weren't people, right? Yeah, okay.

01:53:19.440 --> 01:53:21.280
Pretty wild, hey?

01:53:23.680 --> 01:53:28.880
Such a cool video. That's awesome. What kind of blows my mind about this

01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:34.160
is that as far as I can tell, a significant amount of funding for this

01:53:34.160 --> 01:53:38.040
was provided by the Chinese government. That's not surprising me at all, actually.

01:53:38.040 --> 01:53:41.600
It's very surprising to me because of how negatively

01:53:41.640 --> 01:53:45.280
so many of the Chinese cars performed.

01:53:45.280 --> 01:53:49.440
Okay, I understand that for sure. The reason why I said it's not surprising me at all

01:53:49.440 --> 01:53:53.960
is because they are absolutely trying to take over all of global manufacturing for cars.

01:53:53.960 --> 01:53:58.120
So if they want to do that, they also need to be the center for testing.

01:53:58.120 --> 01:54:01.600
Yeah, I just mean it's- And if they can use some of the data of this

01:54:01.600 --> 01:54:04.960
to help inform their own companies, they will totally do that.

01:54:04.960 --> 01:54:11.680
They have a national guiding hand on corporate movement and direction.

01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:14.920
So the scenarios ranged from simple daily driving tasks

01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:18.080
like safely entering a roundabout or emerging into a busy lane

01:54:18.080 --> 01:54:22.560
to split second reactions to school children darting out into the roadway.

01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:27.600
So I've got a timestamp for that last one. Again, I'm not gonna show you guys too much stuff here

01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:32.040
because I really think this is one of those things that is an absolute,

01:54:32.040 --> 01:54:36.600
the production values are incredible. It's obviously an absolute labor of love.

01:54:37.600 --> 01:54:41.600
And it is worth checking out. So here's the Su7 Ultra,

01:54:41.600 --> 01:54:45.560
that's that new Xiaomi car that people are super stoked on.

01:54:46.440 --> 01:54:50.940
Like, look at this, look at this setup. Is this fricking awesome or what?

01:54:51.960 --> 01:54:54.200
See ya later, kiddos. Oh.

01:54:55.200 --> 01:54:56.040
Oof.

01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:04.680
Dude, that's hard to watch, even knowing those are dummies.

01:55:04.680 --> 01:55:09.660
Yeah. Balls of steel, like these guys driving the cars too.

01:55:09.660 --> 01:55:14.420
Like, yeah, sure, you know, whatever. They're just like fake dummies and stuff, but like still.

01:55:14.420 --> 01:55:17.420
They did some tests that involved like some

01:55:18.340 --> 01:55:21.660
pretty significant problems.

01:55:21.660 --> 01:55:26.660
And like, you never know, the car could swerve, right?

01:55:26.940 --> 01:55:31.940
Like, I don't know, I am surprised

01:55:32.940 --> 01:55:37.380
even with all the controls they clearly had in place and all the safety that they clearly had in place.

01:55:37.380 --> 01:55:42.780
I'm surprised that anyone really wanted to do, you know, 200 plus tests, just like in these.

01:55:42.780 --> 01:55:46.540
That's awesome. Especially after seeing how poorly

01:55:46.540 --> 01:55:49.860
some of these systems worked. I mean, he's got his hands on the wheel, right?

01:55:49.860 --> 01:55:54.080
He's clearly ready for anything to happen, but still, I still love it, love it.

01:55:55.700 --> 01:55:58.740
That's really cool. Half of the models that hit the children

01:55:58.740 --> 01:56:02.480
didn't even realize they'd been in an accident and just kept driving.

01:56:03.320 --> 01:56:06.600
Like, wow.

01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:10.240
They're testing found vehicles going rogue from planned navigation,

01:56:10.240 --> 01:56:14.560
being unable to handle a simple U-turn, and failing to avoid left turning vehicles

01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:20.040
that were cutting them off. Here, we'll go to that timestamp now, 43.14.

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Here we go. This is like such a cool video, dude.

01:56:23.960 --> 01:56:26.440
Like all the benchmarking.

01:56:30.120 --> 01:56:34.440
But just see you later. Yep, okay, yeah, you know, whatever, but...

01:56:38.480 --> 01:56:40.640
It just hits it.

01:56:41.840 --> 01:56:44.640
By the time you get a warning, the crash has already happened.

01:56:47.200 --> 01:56:52.400
Rough. Yep. Rough. Multiple models broke speed limits,

01:56:52.400 --> 01:56:55.520
failed to stop for cars, reversing out of parking spots,

01:56:55.520 --> 01:56:58.520
plowed through folks on scooters, and just generally

01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:02.920
behave like a typical human asshole.

01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:10.560
The video concludes that most problems aren't due to a lack of capability of ADAS systems,

01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:15.920
but rather because they are not programmed to prioritize following basic traffic laws.

01:57:16.800 --> 01:57:21.000
Whoa, that's... That's a really interesting takeaway.

01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:25.480
That's weird. A few vehicles proved more capable than the rest.

01:57:25.480 --> 01:57:29.840
Xiaomi's Su7 Ultra, Tesla's Model 3 and Model X,

01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:34.520
Waze Blue Mountain, and GAC's Ion RT,

01:57:34.520 --> 01:57:38.160
proved capable of generally following the law and avoiding accidents,

01:57:38.160 --> 01:57:43.400
but even those performed poorly in some scenarios. I'm surprised BYD's not up there.

01:57:43.400 --> 01:57:46.560
Apparently they did quite poorly. Interesting.

01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:49.800
Discussion question. What's the more terrifying scenario

01:57:49.800 --> 01:57:53.160
being driven around by your 80-plus-year-old grandfather

01:57:53.160 --> 01:57:56.200
or the self-driving system of a mid-priced sedan?

01:57:57.040 --> 01:57:58.800
Having seen what I've seen here?

01:58:01.120 --> 01:58:05.640
Ooh. My mom air was a fantastic driver,

01:58:05.640 --> 01:58:08.800
even late, very late into the ages.

01:58:08.800 --> 01:58:14.400
Yeah, because at least a human will generally, unless they're extremely arrogant, drive slower.

01:58:14.400 --> 01:58:16.800
Exactly. Which can have its own problems.

01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:21.720
But still, I'd rather plow into something slower. Usually they're like less deadly problems.

01:58:21.720 --> 01:58:25.360
Yes. They're more scratchy or bumpy problems. Yeah.

01:58:27.080 --> 01:58:32.680
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think I'd ride a RoboTaxi today.

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Mind you, I'd probably take one of the ones in San Francisco.

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With the whole LiDAR systems and everything? No, they just have drivers.

01:58:39.960 --> 01:58:43.000
Oh. Do they actually? Yeah.

01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:47.040
No, Dan, it's not a joke. They just have drivers in them. It's called a taxi.

01:58:47.040 --> 01:58:51.640
Yeah, but they just have a human driver in them. And they just don't do anything?

01:58:51.640 --> 01:58:57.680
Is that because they kept getting coned? I think what they do is they don't do anything.

01:58:57.680 --> 01:59:01.080
Waymos have drivers? Waymos? No. No, no, RoboTaxi.

01:59:01.080 --> 01:59:03.000
Tesla's thing. Oh.

01:59:04.360 --> 01:59:08.440
Yeah. I thought that was in Texas. Yeah, no, they expanded to San Francisco.

01:59:08.440 --> 01:59:13.680
I didn't know RoboTaxi was like a brand. Except instead of having the supervisor

01:59:13.680 --> 01:59:17.840
in the passenger seat with a kill switch, they're in the driver's seat.

01:59:17.840 --> 01:59:21.600
So that they're basically just an Uber driver.

01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:25.040
That owns a Tesla. That has a Tesla.

01:59:26.240 --> 01:59:29.880
I believe they are actually using a different branch of the software.

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So there's that. Make of that what you will, but. You need to use the same said,

01:59:34.400 --> 01:59:37.120
but also yes, Waymos has drivers. What?

01:59:38.120 --> 01:59:41.880
Well, they do have remote operators that can intervene,

01:59:41.880 --> 01:59:45.680
but the ratio of remote operators to vehicles,

01:59:45.680 --> 01:59:50.920
from what we've been able to glean so far from Tesla's opacity.

01:59:50.920 --> 01:59:55.160
Opacity, I can never remember opacity. They're very opaque.

01:59:55.160 --> 01:59:59.640
What we've been able to glean so far is that Tesla's ratio is substantially higher.

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Those ones used LiDAR, right? Tesla got rid of LiDAR. Waymos do.

02:00:03.360 --> 02:00:06.840
Tesla never had LiDAR. They had, oh, what did they have?

02:00:06.840 --> 02:00:09.840
What stupid sensor did they have? Was it LiDAR?

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LiDAR could be. Can't remember. Ultrasonics. They had another sensor and they didn't go for it

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and they didn't invest in LiDAR because they were convinced that cameras were the future,

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but good luck, everybody.

02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:28.600
Yeah, apparently it was radar, says Talon, and they removed them.

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Even the ones that they didn't remove them from, they just don't use them anymore, so good job.

02:00:33.560 --> 02:00:37.760
Hey, remember how we were talking about, Valve could be one of the companies

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that would be in a position to challenge

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the payment processors on their whole prudishness.

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There's a powerful petition, apparently pressuring.

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Okay, who wrote this? That's such an Adam thing. Powerful petition pressures prude payment processors

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that prompted PC platforms to purge pornographic products.

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Amazing. It's pretty good. I like it.

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Last week, Visa and MasterCard pressured gaming marketplaces Steam and Itch.io

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into delisting and de-indexing games that contained adult themes.

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However, this change has affected a substantial number of games with little to no adult content or imagery,

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especially games that deal with queer issues. Anti-porn group, Collective Shout,

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has claimed this as a victory, implying involvement in the pressure

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from the payment processors. Losing a payment processor can have massive consequences

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for everyone on a platform resulting in swift and broad changes in a rush to comply.

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This has highlighted problems with the concentration of power in the payment processing space,

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and gamers, gamers love their smut, don't they?

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Gamers have been quick to respond by inundating Visa and MasterCard customer support lines

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and starting a petition that has nearly 220,000 signatures at the time of writing.

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Visa and MasterCard really are gonna learn just how dangerous it is to mess with horny gamers.

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Here's an example of a screenshot that was highlighted by a developer

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and 404Media as a violation.

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All right, here we go.

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Future, no thanks. Was meant to be announced weeks ago,

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but the Steam page didn't pass the first review because a screenshot marked as suitable for all ages

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had suggestive themes. The screenshot, this one.

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So what is it like? Oh, wait, hold on, is this, is this a,

02:02:37.280 --> 02:02:42.640
oh, okay, is this skin? That's a window, and you can see upper skirt.

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I think that's shadow. I think that's actually, that's actually shadow.

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Sure. I'm not 100% sure, that could be undies.

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All right, Newman.

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The internet's funny, we know that much. That's a lot of signatures.

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Yeah. Where is it? I don't think it's gonna go anywhere

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to be perfectly honest with you. Where is the petition based?

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Is it just, I don't even remember what that website was.

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Change.org, is it just a change.org thing? Or like, is it a real petition in like the EU

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or something like that? Or like, yeah, how legit is this?

02:03:29.200 --> 02:03:32.680
I am looking. The Guardian has an article on it.

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Oh, wow. The horny gamers have a place to go.

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Apparently GOG released a free adult games pack featuring games that were delisted from other platforms.

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Nice. That's hilarious.

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Yeah, you probably don't want to scroll down. Yeah, I decided to stop scrolling down. That's a good idea.

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Yep.

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I thought this was YouTube uncensored. I thought this was a barricade.

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I hope not. To be clear, there are games that have found their way

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onto these platforms that go beyond just adult themes

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and probably should be delisted. But the problem to Adam's point is that when you have-

02:04:18.760 --> 02:04:22.120
That shouldn't be up to payment processors. That shouldn't be up to payment processors.

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And when you have that kind of pressure on a business, where all of a sudden they literally might not be able

02:04:27.080 --> 02:04:31.960
to accept payment anymore, they end up casting an over-wide net

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and a lot of pudding gets thrown out with the bathwater.

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Are we gonna get that one? That one doesn't count? That was pretty good. I thought that was pretty good.

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I didn't think it was good. I thought it sucked. Pudding with the bathwater? You know what else sucks?

02:04:51.120 --> 02:04:55.840
I think they're like both kind of- The IGN 2025 gaming class.

02:04:55.840 --> 02:04:59.240
Exactly. I'm just gonna make a comment on it. Yeah.

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Fine, I'll give you a ding for pudding. That's gross.

02:05:02.600 --> 02:05:06.800
And the bath, get it? And the bathwater? Oh, that went way over my head.

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It's actually really, I thought it was really good. Wow.

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I thought it was really good. Excellent Linus, that's very good. I'm sorry, I was too dumb.

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I thought it was pretty solid. He got one over on me. IGN launches gaming trends platform.

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Reddit user, MegaApple, summarized the highlights nicely.

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And are you ready to have your mind blown, sir?

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I, yeah, I skimmed so much earlier. 93% of GenAlpha's prefer playing on mobile

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according to IGN segmentation study. No.

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But preference for mobile is actually growing for millennials too,

02:05:42.800 --> 02:05:47.240
with 32% calling it their preferred device.

02:05:47.240 --> 02:05:53.080
Why preferred, man? Have they never held a controller?

02:05:53.080 --> 02:05:56.520
It's so bad, like it's, the phone is actually just worse in every way.

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It's so frustrating.

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Daily concurrent user numbers have grown for Roblox

02:06:05.800 --> 02:06:10.120
from 3.8 million daily concurrent users

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in June of 2022 to more than 25 million in June of 2025.

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There are 25 million concurrence on Roblox daily.

02:06:24.680 --> 02:06:25.840
The kids are wrong.

02:06:28.280 --> 02:06:35.000
The kids are wrong. Over the same period, Fortnite has grown from 1.2 million to 1.77 million

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concurrence with occasional blips, like when 15.3 million new players logged in

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for the Marvel Galactus event.

02:06:43.520 --> 02:06:46.960
Millennials and GenXs tend to be loyal to platforms

02:06:46.960 --> 02:06:51.520
or genres. Now the younger generations tend to be more loyal

02:06:51.520 --> 02:06:56.440
to specific experiences. They no longer identify necessarily as gamers.

02:06:56.440 --> 02:07:00.320
They will identify as players of a specific game.

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Is that because they're all gamers now? I think it's because everything is as a service.

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And yes, gaming is way more segmented.

02:07:09.080 --> 02:07:13.620
And like there's so much cultural, remember how the cultural stigma used to be

02:07:13.620 --> 02:07:20.940
that you were into video games? Well, now they're drawing battle lines down like Fortnite.

02:07:21.260 --> 02:07:25.260
And it's not like the older gamers aren't guilty of that as well.

02:07:25.260 --> 02:07:28.540
Oh, Fortnite, that's for babies. They're like, you know, robots. Call of duty versus battlefield.

02:07:28.540 --> 02:07:33.540
Exactly. Versus Counter-Strike, whatever. Every two years, IGN conducts a study

02:07:33.540 --> 02:07:36.980
into audience attitudes towards older games. And the findings are showing

02:07:36.980 --> 02:07:42.580
that people are increasingly looking back. Now, 71% agree that they're feeling more

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and more nostalgic for franchises that were around when they were kids.

02:07:46.860 --> 02:07:49.940
That's like water's wet. Okay.

02:07:50.820 --> 02:07:56.100
And this is another one. This is another water's wet. Gen C and Gen Alpha now expect every song in TV show

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to be available to them instantly and they expect the same for video games.

02:07:59.100 --> 02:08:03.420
Yep. I mean, the concept of like scheduling a time

02:08:03.420 --> 02:08:06.620
for a phone call to my kids is like bizarre

02:08:06.620 --> 02:08:11.340
or all because we don't really watch sports in my house.

02:08:11.340 --> 02:08:14.580
So needing to be in front of the TV

02:08:14.580 --> 02:08:18.660
at a particular time is like, why?

02:08:18.660 --> 02:08:21.060
You know, like it seems ridiculous.

02:08:22.140 --> 02:08:27.020
This is fun. Groa Garden is the most popular game of all time

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by a landslide. Dan and I talked about this particular,

02:08:30.300 --> 02:08:33.820
I skipped all of it except for this. Dan and I talked about this particular thing

02:08:33.820 --> 02:08:39.180
before the show. I had genuinely never in my life heard of this game

02:08:39.180 --> 02:08:42.580
until I saw this chart. Okay, Boomer. Yeah.

02:08:42.580 --> 02:08:45.940
You're out of touch. No, for sure. Yep. Actually.

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And it's worth noting that even though we said, hey, Roblox has like over 10 times the concurrence

02:08:50.420 --> 02:08:55.060
of Fortnite, Roblox isn't really a game anymore.

02:08:55.060 --> 02:08:59.540
Roblox is a game platform. That's, it's more comparable to Steam now,

02:08:59.540 --> 02:09:05.980
I would say, than it is to a game. So, so Groa Garden versus Fortnite versus, you know,

02:09:05.980 --> 02:09:10.940
PUBG, those are games. But yeah, Groa Garden is a Roblox game.

02:09:11.820 --> 02:09:15.100
Among us is still that popular. I thought I was like dead meat.

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This is all time. Oh, all time, all time, all time.

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Peak concurrent players and millions. Groa Garden, should we play Groa Garden?

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I looked up a gameplay video. Seriously?

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Out of, out of it. What even is that? Dress to impress.

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I have no idea what that is. I think it's like a dress-up game.

02:09:36.200 --> 02:09:39.400
I think we've talked about it on the show before. Okay, sorry. You said something about Groa Garden.

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I looked up gameplay of Groa Garden and the kids are wrong, dude.

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The kids have bad taste. This is like one of the first times that I, yeah.

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Maybe I'm old.

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I think the kids have bad taste. Groa Garden looks like trash.

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None of this is even gameplay.

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How to make the top model dress for free in Dress to Impress.

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Dress to Impress.

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Yeah. Yacht.

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Okay.

02:10:29.120 --> 02:10:29.960
I mean,

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wow.

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Mystery Ions said it's a result of the dumbing down of the children.

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But it's, Groa Garden looks rough.

02:10:51.520 --> 02:10:55.600
It looks like bad Minecraft. This is like the first time I felt old.

02:10:56.880 --> 02:10:59.960
Do you feel old? That's not true. I just play Minecraft.

02:10:59.960 --> 02:11:04.000
Like it's, it's not just kids playing Roblox.

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Okay. I'm not trying to make you feel self conscious. Sorry.

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But like it's,

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I don't know, it's weird. And I'm not saying Roblox universally is bad.

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I've seen some videos of games. I've never once launched Roblox.

02:11:18.640 --> 02:11:24.280
I've seen some videos of games that are like, okay, cool. You know, if these are free games, whatever,

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I could see myself if I was a kid being into it.

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Some of them, there was like a Counter-Strike rip-off one that looked like actually really good.

02:11:31.400 --> 02:11:34.640
Yeah, actually. I think, I think I saw my son playing that once.

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Yeah. Like there's, there's some games on there that look like, okay, these are serious.

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I haven't gotten into it. Cause like no one in my friend group has gotten into it.

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He was playing gun game. Yeah. But like, if one of my friends was like,

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Hey, want to play a gun game? It's on this Roblox thing. I'd be like, sure.

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Yeah. Fine. Like that's cool. It looked totally fine. I've, I've seen other ones that looked really good.

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Uh, Goroa Garden, at least from the video that I watched,

02:11:59.600 --> 02:12:04.800
looks like trash. So it's like stunning to me that has, it's, it's the most popular game of all time.

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Maybe the person that I was watching just only did like really basic, boring things.

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Maybe it's really cool.

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I'm just checking it out. But yeah, like it just looks like junk.

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And I totally, graphics are. Okay. So you're a Lego.

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One of the least important things. You're a Lego and you make a Lego garden,

02:12:24.520 --> 02:12:29.360
but it just likes, it just looks like not as good Minecraft to me.

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Is Minecraft free? No. So that's why, in my opinion.

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Like honestly. Got them. You just got called poor on the wind show.

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No. Well, anyone who plays Goroa Garden did.

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That's not the point. The point is any, any game that's free is going to have way wider adoption.

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If you're a kid, getting your parents to buy a game is not always

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the easiest thing. Whether they have the money or not. So you heard it here first from Luke.

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Try being less poor or failing that, having less poor parents.

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Luke, I really. I said regardless of how much money they have. I really don't think that this is

02:13:04.160 --> 02:13:06.440
a very constructive argument.

02:13:08.160 --> 02:13:12.280
Hey, that's what I say to people all the time. And I wish they would follow my advice.

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They're complaining about stuff. And I just say, have you tried not being poor?

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Wow. And they just don't. Roblox also is so easy.

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I didn't know that. I thought Roblox was free. Cause there's so many microtransactions.

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I would have sworn Roblox wasn't free. Sorry, it was free.

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No, you have to pay for Roblox. Yeah, that's right. The base game?

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I think so. How much is the base game? I bought Roblox.

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I thought it was free. I've never tried, I don't think I've ever tried to buy Roblox. Oh no, you can buy Roblox.

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Yeah. Yeah. Can you imagine needing to buy two?

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It is free. What are you guys talking about? Can you imagine needing to buy 200 US dollars

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worth of Roblox at once? In one shot?

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There's probably something that costs that much. It's not even, oh wait, it is discounted a little bit.

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Can you, like if you buy some cosmetic, can you take it from custom game to custom game?

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I don't know, who cares? I feel like probably.

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75 Roblox for cheeks.

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What the heck is the difference?

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Chiseled. I see it.

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Go from that to cheeks. Cheeks a little rounder on the bottom.

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Oh my God, who cares? Yep.

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Yeah.

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Discussion question. If each of you, and we're,

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oh, what the hell keeps happening over there, Dan?

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I don't know. I think the camera is having a good time.

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The camera is having a good time.

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Move it back over. One of those auto ones.

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Ah, okay. So we're bringing Dan into this one.

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If each of you had to identify by the game you play,

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but not the platform or just as a gamer in general,

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what game would it be?

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And you got to think all time. You got to think all time. Cause like it'd be easy for me to just say,

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I'm a tape to taper, you know, or whatever.

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But that's like one blip in my, in my gaming life.

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If I had to identify by the game I play,

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what game would it be?

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Does a Floatplane know what I'm going to say?

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I don't know. I don't think, I think this is one of those ones where,

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for once, I don't, I think I know yours.

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Yeah, probably. I don't, I don't think I know Luke's.

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Hold on. Let me think a little bit longer. I don't think I know mine either.

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Let me think a little longer. I, no, I know Luke's. I know Luke's.

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I don't know mine. He will say Morrowind, but it's not favorite game.

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No, that's not right. No, I already know what it is. Don't look at Chad.

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That's cheating. Morrowind gamer. That's cheating.

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Yeah, I just love Morrowind. Yeah. I already know Luke's answer, but okay, okay.

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If you can come up with mine, then we can move forward because I can't come up with mine.

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Well, I have an ex, the first thing that popped in my head is insanely left field

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and probably wrong, but I feel like I want to say it anyways.

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Sure. Psychonauts.

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Interesting. Puzzle platformer, story driven,

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quirky,

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I did quite enjoy the first one. Tried to get into the second one.

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I know nothing about the second one. I only know anything about the first one.

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It seems fine. My only problem with the second one is that I have

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often very, very short chunks of gaming time.

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Sure. And the gameplay, especially the combat, is much deeper.

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So, I just honestly know nothing about it. There's like a lot more buttons and combos to have to remember

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and when it's been three weeks since the last time you touched it and you only played for an hour and you forget the tutorial,

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it can be a little bit daunting. It can be a pain.

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Interesting. That's what jumped in my head.

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Not a nano? You're not a nano guy?

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Are you just also really like nano? That almost feels like the Morrowind thing to me.

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Slower.

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RTS. So you're like, no.

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Definitely an enjoyer, but I don't think it identifies.

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Supreme Commander is the only game I ever got into, into, into,

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and I would say that it and nano have in common the sort of

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economic element that makes both of those games a little bit niche.

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Man, that's tough. I have yours though. Slay the Spire, for sure.

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Yeah, probably. I think if there was a game that Luke is...

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Kind of like a deck building kind of guy. Yeah.

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He's a min-maxer player.

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And so you're easier though,

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whereas I feel like my taste in games is kind of like my taste in music.

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It's just eclectic. I think that's one of the reasons why Psychonauts popped in my head.

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Sure. Yeah. You know what?

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I would accept either of those answers because I truthfully could not come up with something for myself.

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The more I think about nano, the better it is, but it's missing something for me.

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I don't know what.

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I don't know what either.

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Not that Psychonauts is perfect. Like you said, I think yours is a little hard to place.

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Yeah. I mean, actually, I shouldn't say the only game I ever got into with Supreme Commander

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because I was really into Left 4 Dead

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and played a ton of Team Fortress 2 back in the day as well.

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I'd say if there was some...

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If I could distill it down into...

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If we could find the game that was like the ultimate 4v4,

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like I like small team versus is like my favorite thing.

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Which is, yeah, a lot of the ideas of tape to tape.

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It's why I like Left 4 Dead. But I don't think it's tape to tape.

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Yeah, I don't think it's tape to tape. Tape to tape is just what I'm super into right now.

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Okay, Dan. Okay, hold on first. Luke, what do you think Dan's is?

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This might be too easy, but like my answer might be almost too generic.

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Which might make it incorrect. Hold on, I'm going to write mine first.

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Hold on, hold on, so that I can prove. Sure.

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Because I feel like we're going to say the same thing. We might.

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Okay. Factorio? Yeah, I'd probably say that.

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Yeah. Okay, Dan was too easy. Yeah.

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Yeah, I figured it would be easy. But I mean, like some of them are crazy.

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Like if I had to pigeonhole myself like that, then probably, but...

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Yeah. Yeah. What's cool about Factorio is this...

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It's not. It's one game, but it's also like you can kind of decide how to play it.

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Like I could... I like that about games. It's like if you were a roller coaster tycoon.

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Have I told you why I've never played Factorio?

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Because you think you'd get way too into it. It scares me.

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It should scare you. That's why I never subscribed to Wow.

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Yeah. I bought the box and I played my free month.

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And A, I'm the cheapest c*** you'll ever know.

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And the idea of subscribing to a game was just I decided then and there when I was a teenager

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that I would never do it and I never have.

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So that was part of it. And the other part was that that month is completely lost to my memory.

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All I did is play as Mage Nuzulia and light things on fire.

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And nothing else existed in my life.

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Yeah. You know, like how Siv has one more turn.

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Yeah. Yeah. Factorio has...

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Oh, I just got to fix this one thing. Well, that's the Anno problem. Did you ever play Anno?

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Yeah. I had to stop. Yeah.

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Did you ever get the prompt that tells you you've been playing for eight hours or whatever?

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You should take a break. That's as high as it goes. Don't ask me how I know.

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Yeah. Yeah, I have moments like that.

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I've had to like uninstall Factorio before just because it's so enthralling.

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I beat Space Age and I lost the achievement by four hours.

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There's an achievement for beating it in under 100 hours.

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And I got 104 hours, which is pretty good, which is pretty good.

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That's a rough achievement to have to try to redo.

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Yeah. The original game, they had one as an achievement for beating it within eight.

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But most people either never finish it or take hundreds of hours to be able to finish it.

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I will say, I really like Anno.

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I feel like if I never played it with you, I would play it more.

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Really? That's an interesting take.

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Okay, hit me with that. I like co-op Anno so significantly more than I like single-player Anno.

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That single-player Anno just, like, it's still enjoyable.

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Yeah. Well, its comparison is the thief of joy.

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Yeah. Yeah. I know that I would love that game if I had first played it just by myself.

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But it's a sick hangout game. Yeah.

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Because you're, like, dialed, but also... You're focused on something, but you could have a conversation.

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You can totally chat. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah, 100%. As we played Inscription, yeah, it's fantastic.

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It's a really, really good game. Everything from that person, I don't remember their name, but everybody, that person or

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that company or whatever it is that has made those games, I think it's like Pony, whatever,

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and Inscription and yada yada. They're all great.

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I love all of them. Ars Technica reports that robots can lie now.

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OpenAI's new chat GPT agent proved it can click through Cloudflare's anti-bot verification

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on Friday. Chat GPT agent can perform multi-step tasks for users, and it explained, this step is

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necessary to prove I'm not a bot as it clicked through the bot screening step.

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I just wanted to throw that in there. It's part of our just, like, AI roundup for this week.

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This is another one. Showrunner lets you use AI to make your own TV shows, and I am terrified.

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Are there some rough ones? The source is Biz, Business Insider.

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It's paywald, so we'll just kind of give you guys the high-level stuff.

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But after securing funding from Amazon's Alexa Fund, Fable Studio has launched showrunner.xyz,

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which allows subscribers to create their own animated shows or to build on others' existing

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IP by inserting themselves as characters or adding scenes.

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It's weird how many people on this front screen are recognizable.

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Showrunner has at least one studio on board and claims to be in talks with Disney.

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Said their CEO, Edward Satchi, if you're saying to yourself, that sounds really stupid.

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You're not alone. Maybe nobody wants this and it won't work.

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Okay. So I watched, I think I was looking at the pilot of Exit Valley.

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So that's the one on the top left.

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I don't think, this is not clickable. Oh, okay.

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How did I, how did I find that then?

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Hmm. The prize. These, these all give me like, one of the problem with these is like,

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these all give me very strong vibes of shows that have or did exist.

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Well, yeah. Which is the whole problem.

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Uh, here we go. So here, uh, yeah, here it is.

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Okay. So here, I think this is the, oh, I think this is the first, yeah.

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Episode zero meet showrunner.

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Uh, it's not funny. Uh, oh, is my audio on?

02:24:52.640 --> 02:24:55.640
Okay. Yeah. It's, it's not funny.

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The animation is not good.

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Yeah. Uh, I got through about two minutes of it before I just kind of couldn't take it anymore.

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And terrifyingly, people are going to watch the fuck out of this.

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People's like, oh, people's show watching habits are rough.

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It's all just like the, the lowest level slop.

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And look, I'm not judging. I watch, I watch just turn my brain off TV.

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That is often its purpose. I mean, I get it. I've, I've, I think I've, I've talked before about how I'll usually have a show that is

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like my go to sleep show. Yeah.

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Uh, over the years, my, and, and I will literally have episodes of my go to sleep show that

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I have, I won't say watched because typically I've only listened to them, um, a lot, a lot

02:26:01.640 --> 02:26:07.640
of the time. Um, but I'll have episodes of my go to sleep show that I have literally listened to, you

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know, in some cases, 25, 30, 50 times.

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Easy. So my go to sleep shows over the years have been like Adventure Time, Rick and Morty.

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Um, right now I'm finding 1987 DuckTales is an amazing balance of like, cause what I

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need is something that grabs enough of my attention that I can't think about anything else, but

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is not so interesting that it will keep me awake.

02:26:35.640 --> 02:26:39.640
Um, yeah. I mean, that makes sense.

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I can't sleep to Futurama. Futurama has never been a sleep show for me, although I love Futurama.

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And many years ago there was a, a period of time where I was having a really, really,

02:26:49.640 --> 02:26:58.640
really hard time falling asleep. And, uh, I didn't want to ruin that like album that I listened to in like emergency cases

02:26:58.640 --> 02:27:05.640
to fall asleep. Right. Um, so I was taking a page out of your book and re listening to Star Wars audio books.

02:27:05.640 --> 02:27:08.640
Oh, interesting. And that worked for me. Yeah.

02:27:08.640 --> 02:27:13.640
I find that, that it's less important exactly what it is. Oh, Bob's Burgers was another big one for me.

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Um, it's less important like what it is.

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And it's more important that you already know what happens.

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Yeah. And so you're not invested. It's not particularly interesting anymore.

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It's interesting enough that like you'll pay some amount of attention to it, but it's not

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interesting enough that you're super invested in what's happening next and like anticipating

02:27:33.640 --> 02:27:39.640
things or whatever else. So your, your brain is distracted enough that it can go asleep, but not so distracted that

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it wants to stay up. So this is not going to work for me.

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It is boring.

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So there's that, but I think it's too boring from what I've seen so far.

02:27:49.640 --> 02:27:53.640
For other people as well. For, no, no, it's too boring for me to, um,

02:27:53.640 --> 02:27:56.640
Oh, gotcha. For me to focus on it. Yeah.

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Enough. So, so I have not been able to find a purpose for any of the, any for the, the one little

02:28:02.840 --> 02:28:11.640
bit of generated content that I've seen from show runners so far, but I am fearful that

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we're just going to completely skip the step where AI replaces writers and, you know, real

02:28:18.640 --> 02:28:24.640
actors and producers actually create the content still and we're going to go straight to AI

02:28:24.640 --> 02:28:29.640
just generates the entire finished product and people lap it up from a slot bucket.

02:28:29.640 --> 02:28:33.640
Dude, waiting, waiting through this is going to be actually very difficult.

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We had a, we had a situation. I was at a family gathering for Emma the other day and some of the kids that were there

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had these like toy things where they were like amorphous kind of people blobs and there

02:28:47.640 --> 02:28:50.640
was magnets on the end of their like hands and feet.

02:28:50.640 --> 02:28:53.640
That's cool. Um, and you could connect them together and whatever else.

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And one of the kids put them up on the fridge, feet down, all leaning out, holding hands

02:29:00.640 --> 02:29:06.640
in a circle. Oh, that's cool. And they're, they're multicolored and it made me think of a logo that I had sworn I had

02:29:06.640 --> 02:29:08.640
seen before. UNICEF.

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And I thought UNICEF. That's so interesting.

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Okay. Maybe that's what it is. I don't know.

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But either way, I was trying to think of this logo where there was a globe in the middle

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and the people were standing all around it holding hands.

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I don't think that's a logo. I just think that's a thing that's been done a lot of times.

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Like my grade seven class sweatshirt had that's all standing around the globe.

02:29:31.640 --> 02:29:35.640
Sure. Yeah. So I, but I was trying to think of this thing and then I mentioned the concept to a

02:29:35.640 --> 02:29:40.640
bunch of people in the room and they're like, Oh yeah. And a couple of people said UNICEF, which I thought was interesting, but then the UNICEF

02:29:40.640 --> 02:29:47.640
logo doesn't look like that at all. But either way, so we were trying to look it up online and whether it exists or not,

02:29:47.640 --> 02:29:51.640
or whether it's just a commonly used thing like you were saying, all we could get was

02:29:51.640 --> 02:29:56.640
just AI slop output of like, here's the logo you're looking for.

02:29:56.640 --> 02:30:00.640
Here's this generated thing. It was like very difficult.

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Hands across America. It's not hands across America.

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As a Canadian, I had never seen the hands across America logo.

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I found it when we were trying to find this. It was definitely not that that I'm thinking of, but it all we could find.

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Yeah. Was generated images. And I was like, man, that was honestly spooky for me because stuff like this, this

02:30:19.640 --> 02:30:24.640
shown on her thing, like the ability to just mass output garbage, the signal, the

02:30:24.640 --> 02:30:28.640
noise is going to be really brutal on actual real information.

02:30:28.640 --> 02:30:30.640
Yep. Hey,

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want to play a garbage game? Yeah.

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I don't technically know that it's bad, but this was created in response to our T-shirt

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launch from, was it last week or the week before, the cute little bread sourced T-shirt?

02:30:48.640 --> 02:30:54.640
Hey Dan, can you point your camera at it? Just for, yeah, just it's right behind Dan.

02:30:54.640 --> 02:30:57.640
Over your left shoulder. Yeah, there it is. Look how cute it is.

02:30:57.640 --> 02:31:02.640
I barely see it from there. That's the one with the cute little heart and the bread sourced.

02:31:02.640 --> 02:31:07.640
And Luke was like, yeah, this would be a cooler shirt even if there was a, if it was a character

02:31:07.640 --> 02:31:12.640
from a game. So, so, um, yeah.

02:31:12.640 --> 02:31:15.640
Levios 3114 made a game.

02:31:15.640 --> 02:31:18.640
Um, is it Leviosa? Sure.

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Kidding. Kidding.

02:31:21.640 --> 02:31:24.640
I can't believe it.

02:31:24.640 --> 02:31:30.640
All right. So W is up, S is down is, oh, you're already getting ahead of me.

02:31:30.640 --> 02:31:33.640
I haven't even tried it yet. I'm just messing around. Okay.

02:31:33.640 --> 02:31:37.640
E is interact and then arrow up and down to retract neck.

02:31:37.640 --> 02:31:42.640
I don't know. Okay. If retract neck is going to be a natural mechanism in the game.

02:31:42.640 --> 02:31:45.640
Oh, it's made in Godot. Hell yeah.

02:31:45.640 --> 02:31:48.640
Let's go. Yeah, I like that part. It's the best part.

02:31:48.640 --> 02:31:51.640
Oh, wait, there's an up thing.

02:31:51.640 --> 02:31:59.640
Okay. There doesn't appear to be any reason to have the neck ever smaller.

02:31:59.640 --> 02:32:05.640
Or bigger. Okay. Well, that was a problem.

02:32:05.640 --> 02:32:08.640
So what is the purpose of the game?

02:32:08.640 --> 02:32:12.640
Exactly. Well, I see a counter going up when I collect objects.

02:32:12.640 --> 02:32:15.640
Oh, those spikes don't seem to actually kill you. Okay.

02:32:15.640 --> 02:32:18.640
So that's something. You could avoid them for fun.

02:32:18.640 --> 02:32:22.640
These are just upside down spikes. Is this water?

02:32:22.640 --> 02:32:25.640
I am underwater. Look at me being underwater.

02:32:25.640 --> 02:32:29.640
Okay. So they never said that it was a good game.

02:32:29.640 --> 02:32:33.640
Okay. So the neck, yeah, the neck goes up.

02:32:33.640 --> 02:32:36.640
Okay. My neck is no longer up. Does the neck growing up do anything?

02:32:36.640 --> 02:32:39.640
Maybe I'll eat these leaves. Nope.

02:32:39.640 --> 02:32:42.640
I try to eat the leaves. The spikes don't do anything. So that's something.

02:32:42.640 --> 02:32:46.640
I have 10 objects though. So that's something as well.

02:32:46.640 --> 02:32:51.640
I'm going to go this way. Oh, I'm going to find lots of, I'm going to find all the objects.

02:32:51.640 --> 02:32:54.640
Oh, I have 43 objects. Nice.

02:32:54.640 --> 02:32:57.640
Go Linus. Oh, I'm home.

02:32:57.640 --> 02:33:02.640
Oh, okay. Maybe in my neck will be, I will go off the cliff at my home.

02:33:02.640 --> 02:33:05.640
All right. Well, there you go.

02:33:05.640 --> 02:33:08.640
You got your wish loop. Heck yeah. How many objects did you get?

02:33:08.640 --> 02:33:12.640
43. 43. Oh, nice.

02:33:12.640 --> 02:33:16.640
Good job. You succeeded. I got so many objects, dude.

02:33:16.640 --> 02:33:19.640
Yep. But I finished. I got home first though.

02:33:19.640 --> 02:33:22.640
So, you know. Is there? Nope.

02:33:22.640 --> 02:33:25.640
Oh, wait. There's, oh, no, wait. Press E.

02:33:25.640 --> 02:33:29.640
Oh. There you go. I forgot about interact.

02:33:29.640 --> 02:33:32.640
Hey, it's the, yeah. Nice.

02:33:32.640 --> 02:33:37.640
Nice. Nice. So that's the thing that happened.

02:33:37.640 --> 02:33:40.640
Brett Soros the game. Well, I don't really win.

02:33:40.640 --> 02:33:46.640
He told me how to win. It doesn't really count. The internet archive is now a US federal depository library.

02:33:46.640 --> 02:33:52.640
Let's go. In a nutshell, that means it joins a network of more than 1,100 libraries that archive

02:33:52.640 --> 02:33:55.640
government documents and makes them available to the public.

02:33:55.640 --> 02:33:58.640
This does not mean the government gets any control over the archive.

02:33:58.640 --> 02:34:03.640
This is particularly important today because of all the things that the government is disappearing

02:34:03.640 --> 02:34:09.640
in the United States of America. Recognition as a library may also help the archive in ongoing copyright conflicts as

02:34:09.640 --> 02:34:13.640
some opponents claim the archive is an unlicensed digital copywriting and distribution business

02:34:13.640 --> 02:34:18.640
rather than a library. Our discussion question is, do you think the internet archive is a library?

02:34:18.640 --> 02:34:21.640
Why or why not? I do think it's a library. Yeah, me too.

02:34:21.640 --> 02:34:24.640
Cool. That was a quick conversation. Also this.

02:34:24.640 --> 02:34:28.640
I said why or why not? Damned AI stealing our credits.

02:34:28.640 --> 02:34:37.640
So our source is Emily Seddon who I was talking about how one of the reasons that PSU circuit

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is as sort of formulaic as it is, is because we are leaning on automated tools for editing.

02:34:44.640 --> 02:34:48.640
But I got this message from Emily Seddon from our editing team.

02:34:48.640 --> 02:34:53.640
She's one of our supervisors who said, hey, Lucas from the lab and I were talking about

02:34:53.640 --> 02:34:58.640
the Wanshoe clip about AI and PSU circuit and thought it'd be good to kind of clarify.

02:34:58.640 --> 02:35:04.640
The current process for making a whole PSU circuit is not what you conceptualized and

02:35:04.640 --> 02:35:09.640
stated was the goal and were told was how it worked.

02:35:09.640 --> 02:35:13.640
We realized it wasn't really feasible when it came to editing and making actually watchable

02:35:13.640 --> 02:35:17.640
content. So we want to reduce some confusion to those outside the process and hopefully to the audience

02:35:17.640 --> 02:35:21.640
as well because the post-production process is in no way automated or AI.

02:35:21.640 --> 02:35:25.640
I am the one solely responsible for editing every PSU circuit which includes generating

02:35:25.640 --> 02:35:29.640
the AI voiceover, curating and placing the B-roll footage, inputting and lining up the

02:35:29.640 --> 02:35:32.640
on-screen graphics, adjusting the timing, updating credits, exporting and implementing

02:35:32.640 --> 02:35:38.640
review fixes. There really isn't a way to automate this yet the way that people think.

02:35:38.640 --> 02:35:41.640
We tried it and it caused more issues and time delays than it was worth.

02:35:41.640 --> 02:35:45.640
There is a template that I made for Premiere but in terms of putting everything together

02:35:45.640 --> 02:35:50.640
and making presentable, it's all human. The AI just isn't quite there yet, not even for the voice.

02:35:50.640 --> 02:35:54.640
I often have to regenerate each variable line at least twice to get the right pronunciation

02:35:54.640 --> 02:36:00.640
and intonation. I'll link the standard operating procedure that I made for the other editors here too

02:36:00.640 --> 02:36:03.640
if you're interested in the details but I just wanted to clear that up.

02:36:03.640 --> 02:36:09.640
So yeah, it's pretty cool when I get told that a workflow is something to be clear not

02:36:09.640 --> 02:36:18.640
by Emily or Lucas. This was a miscommunication that happened with someone that I'm not going to name but

02:36:18.640 --> 02:36:24.640
I was told, not you, I was told that there were a lot of automation tools that were being

02:36:24.640 --> 02:36:30.640
used and that was helping to streamline the process and I might have made very different

02:36:30.640 --> 02:36:34.640
decisions about what the format of that content was if I'd known that it was going to be

02:36:34.640 --> 02:36:38.640
manually edited anyway.

02:36:38.640 --> 02:36:43.640
So that's interesting information that I very recently got.

02:36:43.640 --> 02:36:47.640
Thank you, Emily, for pointing that out.

02:36:47.640 --> 02:36:53.640
That is very good whenever we say something that is not actually factually that...

02:36:53.640 --> 02:36:56.640
We should cry. I mean, especially...

02:36:56.640 --> 02:37:02.640
Yeah. Sorry. That people internally raise issues and help to make sure that we're bringing you guys

02:37:02.640 --> 02:37:05.640
the most complete information possible.

02:37:05.640 --> 02:37:11.640
If anybody had done that at any point over the last year or before when we were developing

02:37:11.640 --> 02:37:17.640
all these workflows, that would have been great. That was not Emily's job at that time to bring that up at that time.

02:37:17.640 --> 02:37:20.640
So I'm extremely grateful that she's bringing it up now.

02:37:20.640 --> 02:37:26.640
I'm just a little irritated that it took this long to make its way to me.

02:37:27.640 --> 02:37:33.640
But that was, again, I want to emphasize this as much as I possibly can, not Emily's fault

02:37:33.640 --> 02:37:36.640
or Lucas or other more different Lucas.

02:37:36.640 --> 02:37:39.640
Yeah, because it's not going to lie. I thought it worked the way you said.

02:37:39.640 --> 02:37:45.640
Yep. So we may have to re-evaluate PSU circuit videos and sort of how that whole thing works,

02:37:45.640 --> 02:37:48.640
but we'll figure it out.

02:37:48.640 --> 02:37:51.640
To be clear, when I say re-evaluate, I don't mean we're going to stop making them.

02:37:51.640 --> 02:37:57.640
I just mean, if we're just doing the work anyway, then maybe we should do a different

02:37:57.640 --> 02:38:00.640
flow. Yeah, maybe. Because that was the whole idea.

02:38:00.640 --> 02:38:05.140
A lot of the point for a lot of the steps are because it was assumed that it was happening

02:38:05.140 --> 02:38:08.140
a certain way.

02:38:08.140 --> 02:38:11.640
This is why communication is key.

02:38:11.640 --> 02:38:15.640
One of our topics is the Threadripper launch. I'm just going to collapse it because I don't care anymore.

02:38:15.640 --> 02:38:19.640
At a certain point, it might literally actually just be faster to actually just have someone

02:38:19.640 --> 02:38:23.640
line it because if she's going to sit there and have to regen and relish all these lines.

02:38:23.640 --> 02:38:26.640
Yeah, but that's the thing is people didn't tell me that. So that's a problem, huh?

02:38:26.640 --> 02:38:29.640
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

02:38:29.640 --> 02:38:34.640
Cool. Yeah, Dark Guy says a typical out-of-touch C-suite.

02:38:34.640 --> 02:38:40.640
Got him. Got him. If only I had vision.

02:38:40.640 --> 02:38:47.640
Oh, we have a Floatplane announcement and if you made it this far into the show, you

02:38:47.640 --> 02:38:53.640
are in for a treat because we are going to be previewing the very beginning.

02:38:53.640 --> 02:38:57.640
This is nuts. Of the first part of Scrapyard Wars 10.

02:38:57.640 --> 02:39:00.640
And neither of us have seen it. You haven't seen this? I haven't seen any of it yet.

02:39:00.640 --> 02:39:07.640
This is crazy. I will actually be doing my review of the first few minutes live.

02:39:07.640 --> 02:39:10.640
Which seems nuts. Which does seem nuts, actually.

02:39:10.640 --> 02:39:13.640
You've got some audio playing from your laptop right now.

02:39:13.640 --> 02:39:16.640
You just want to try and stop that before we start playing links.

02:39:16.640 --> 02:39:21.640
Oh. Yep. Apparently my last name is spelled wrong in the preview.

02:39:21.640 --> 02:39:24.640
That's really funny. Oh, really? That's awesome.

02:39:24.640 --> 02:39:27.640
No way. Wancho Bingo Chronified said that.

02:39:27.640 --> 02:39:34.640
No way. So I want to talk through this first and then we're going to check it out.

02:39:34.640 --> 02:39:39.640
So a lot of people praised the intro animation and Hoffman Wong, the lead editor for Scrapyard

02:39:39.640 --> 02:39:45.640
Wars this year, wanted to highlight Robert from our team who is the youngest person we

02:39:45.640 --> 02:39:51.640
have on staff. I don't even know. He was born past 2000, which is wild to me.

02:39:51.640 --> 02:39:54.640
I think we have a few of those. Yeah.

02:39:54.640 --> 02:39:58.640
He spent a lot of time on every animation slash graphic in the series.

02:39:58.640 --> 02:40:03.640
Watch video queue Dan. Do you know about this?

02:40:03.640 --> 02:40:06.640
That is so cool.

02:40:06.640 --> 02:40:19.640
Does it actually sound like that?

02:40:19.640 --> 02:40:22.640
Okay. Okay. Cool.

02:40:22.640 --> 02:40:27.640
Well, it won't look like that in the actual video. It will look like that, but it won't sound like that.

02:40:27.640 --> 02:40:30.640
Super cool. You guys might be the only one who heard it like that.

02:40:30.640 --> 02:40:35.640
From Hoffman, Robert has been picking up a lot of motion graphics tasks in the barbershop,

02:40:35.640 --> 02:40:39.640
and in the process of leveling up his After Effects skills, he's learned how to rig characters

02:40:39.640 --> 02:40:42.640
and use those new skills to create an impressive intro for this year's Scrapyard Wars.

02:40:42.640 --> 02:40:46.640
That was my first preview of it. I haven't seen any of this yet.

02:40:46.640 --> 02:40:51.640
Scrapyard Wars comes out next Friday early for float playing audience members, so be

02:40:51.640 --> 02:40:56.640
sure to subscribe to get early access and extras for each episode.

02:40:56.640 --> 02:41:00.640
There's a lot of content, and not all of it can make the YouTube cut.

02:41:00.640 --> 02:41:04.640
While you're there, check out the one year anniversary of Why Is When Late, which was

02:41:04.640 --> 02:41:08.640
why I was wearing the hat during the pre-show.

02:41:08.640 --> 02:41:12.640
How many times have you lost now? Don't worry about it.

02:41:12.640 --> 02:41:16.640
And you can also check out Alex Dix Meet the Team, which if you want to apply to be

02:41:16.640 --> 02:41:19.640
one of our logistics people, we are hiring.

02:41:19.640 --> 02:41:22.640
He's going to lay out what he looks for, and he's the manager for that department,

02:41:22.640 --> 02:41:25.640
I believe, supervisor. Manager.

02:41:25.640 --> 02:41:30.640
Alex Dix. There's also a lot of other roles up.

02:41:30.640 --> 02:41:33.640
Check it out. Oh, yeah, here. There's so many.

02:41:33.640 --> 02:41:36.640
We've got lots. There's a lot. Recession what?

02:41:36.640 --> 02:41:39.640
Recession. Yeah. We're hiring.

02:41:39.640 --> 02:41:43.640
Let's go, boys. Okay. You ready?

02:41:43.640 --> 02:41:46.640
Yeah.

02:41:46.640 --> 02:41:58.640
So I think at the time of filming what I'm assuming is going to be the first thing in

02:41:58.640 --> 02:42:03.640
here, I had been awake for at that point in time.

02:42:03.640 --> 02:42:06.640
I think it's 25 hours. Nice.

02:42:06.640 --> 02:42:09.640
I'm just putting that out there. Okay.

02:42:09.640 --> 02:42:16.640
Because I skipped forward and saw a couple frames and yeah, I look pretty bad.

02:42:16.640 --> 02:42:19.640
Yeah. Like death. Yeah.

02:42:19.640 --> 02:42:22.640
Okay. All right. All right.

02:42:22.640 --> 02:42:25.640
This is it. So this is frame. This is frame.

02:42:25.640 --> 02:42:31.640
I owe. So we use this to like leave comments and stuff on not yet finished videos.

02:42:31.640 --> 02:42:34.640
Those ballers. Okay. We ready?

02:42:34.640 --> 02:42:37.640
Mm-hmm. Do I get to hear it? Yep.

02:42:37.640 --> 02:42:40.640
I can't hear. I can't hear. Oh, you stopped it.

02:42:40.640 --> 02:42:43.640
Well, yeah, I couldn't hear at any point. Play it.

02:42:43.640 --> 02:42:46.640
This is going to be the big. Oh, it sounds so bad. It's going to sound like that for you.

02:42:46.640 --> 02:42:49.640
I think unfortunately. Oh, okay. But they're fine.

02:42:49.640 --> 02:42:52.640
Yeah. As long as they're fine. Okay.

02:42:52.640 --> 02:42:55.640
If they're fine, I'm fine. Okay. So they're good.

02:42:55.640 --> 02:42:58.640
I'm just checking now. Yeah. If they're good, I'm good.

02:42:58.640 --> 02:43:01.640
They say it seemed fine. If they weren't all complaining, then it's probably fine.

02:43:01.640 --> 02:43:04.640
They would be complaining immediately. Okay. All right.

02:43:04.640 --> 02:43:15.640
Here we go. You ready? I hate to do this to us, but then can you turn up our gain a little bit because I can

02:43:15.640 --> 02:43:18.640
like barely hear it. Yep. This is going to be the biggest.

02:43:18.640 --> 02:43:29.640
Scrap your words. Ever. See, normally we build a PC, but this time we build a PC and we transform a completely

02:43:29.640 --> 02:43:35.140
empty room into an epic gaming movie watching paradise.

02:43:35.140 --> 02:43:38.640
Our budget is $1,400. That's going to be easy.

02:43:38.640 --> 02:43:45.000
That's a lot of money. Well, it sounds like a lot of money until you realize that our judges will be evaluating

02:43:45.000 --> 02:43:48.160
more than just how many FPS we get.

02:43:48.160 --> 02:43:52.120
They're going to be looking at the gaming experience, the movie experience, and yes,

02:43:52.120 --> 02:44:01.080
even the vibes. Meaning, if we fall short in any key area, display, acoustics, or even decor, that's

02:44:01.080 --> 02:44:06.240
the GG. Although the scope is bigger than ever, the rules are mostly the same.

02:44:06.240 --> 02:44:12.160
No using our influence or connections for deals. We're only allowed to message and pick up items during the agreed upon hours and we

02:44:12.160 --> 02:44:16.360
can only use parts and peripherals that we buy using our budget.

02:44:16.360 --> 02:44:20.840
Let's check out these rooms. This really isn't much to work with, is it?

02:44:20.840 --> 02:44:24.720
No, it's very small. And for decor.

02:44:24.720 --> 02:44:29.480
Dude. It's going to be a good season. It's going to be awesome.

02:44:29.480 --> 02:44:38.640
It's going to be a great season. I'm already just like, we're a minute in and I feel like so much has happened.

02:44:38.640 --> 02:44:43.520
The before and after of these rooms are wild.

02:44:43.520 --> 02:44:56.160
No spoilers. No spoilers. I just, having seen the blank room, it's just, it's kind of stunning to me.

02:44:56.160 --> 02:45:01.160
It's going to be a great season. Don't go past five minutes.

02:45:01.160 --> 02:45:03.160
Don't do it. Oh.

02:45:04.160 --> 02:45:08.160
Yeah. That's a problem. I want to take that down.

02:45:08.160 --> 02:45:11.160
Yep. Can you deal with that, Dan?

02:45:11.160 --> 02:45:14.160
Uh-huh. Thanks. Cool.

02:45:14.160 --> 02:45:24.480
Good chat. I think that's as much as we're going to watch for now, but next week, Friday, the first

02:45:24.480 --> 02:45:30.840
episode will be up and on Floatplane and you get early access.

02:45:30.840 --> 02:45:36.720
So now is a perfect time to subscribe to Floatplane at LMG.GG slash Floatplane.

02:45:36.720 --> 02:45:39.720
Hey, Luke. What's up? Oh, wait.

02:45:39.720 --> 02:45:42.720
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

02:45:42.720 --> 02:45:45.720
Willing spy said, do the intro. He worked so hard. Okay.

02:45:45.720 --> 02:45:48.720
You know what? Let's do the intro. Okay.

02:45:48.720 --> 02:45:55.840
So here's the, here's the coin flip, which is sort of a random coin flip.

02:45:55.840 --> 02:45:58.960
It was more of a metal flip. Okay.

02:45:58.960 --> 02:46:04.960
To our sponsor.

02:46:04.960 --> 02:46:24.520
How does the draft work?

02:46:24.520 --> 02:46:27.520
Is it him? Me? Me?

02:46:28.080 --> 02:46:31.320
That is pretty awesome. That's pretty sick. Yeah.

02:46:31.320 --> 02:46:40.800
That's pretty sick. I actually love the aesthetic. It has a very like, uh, like early 2000s, new grounds almost kind of like, uh, but then

02:46:40.800 --> 02:46:48.440
I like the really flat kind of, it reminds me of like, uh, material design, like it,

02:46:48.440 --> 02:46:54.520
dude, uh, I don't think that I could be more excited for this season.

02:46:54.520 --> 02:47:02.040
Yeah. Yeah. I think this has, uh, serious potential to be the best one.

02:47:02.040 --> 02:47:08.160
Oh, dude. It always, it always like, you never really know until you see the edits, but I think

02:47:08.160 --> 02:47:12.640
it's got potential for sure. 100%. I'm, I'm super excited.

02:47:12.640 --> 02:47:17.960
Yeah. Um, wow. Is that it for topics today?

02:47:17.960 --> 02:47:23.040
There was the time I was in a movie. Uh, yeah.

02:47:23.040 --> 02:47:27.920
Let's talk about that. Well, I don't know how much I want to talk about that because I was actually kind of

02:47:27.920 --> 02:47:31.760
thinking maybe I'd like make a video about that.

02:47:33.760 --> 02:47:37.280
Yeah. It, it was something.

02:47:37.280 --> 02:47:41.960
It was, it was, uh, so, I mean, we could, we could recognize it, but not talk about

02:47:41.960 --> 02:47:44.960
it too much. Yeah. Because people did point it out on the subreddit.

02:47:44.960 --> 02:47:50.360
So there was, um, there was a subreddit post. I guess we can leave, we can, we can basically just point out that.

02:47:50.360 --> 02:47:55.440
I'm trying to find it crying out loud. Why is the search so bad?

02:47:55.440 --> 02:48:02.000
Hello? Like this is ridiculous.

02:48:02.000 --> 02:48:05.000
I can, oh, here it is. Here it is. Here it is.

02:48:05.000 --> 02:48:08.000
Why is it at the bottom? Okay. Well, anyway, check this out.

02:48:08.000 --> 02:48:16.080
Check this out. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

02:48:16.080 --> 02:48:20.160
higher billing, the nice cube who's on the poster, not, that's an error.

02:48:20.160 --> 02:48:30.600
So, um, here's the thing. Remember when like a billion years ago, I alluded to being in a movie that was like

02:48:30.600 --> 02:48:41.160
in post-production and then just like, um, nothing ever sort of came of it?

02:48:41.160 --> 02:48:46.080
This is that movie, except for one small problem.

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A week before the movie came out, I got an email informing me that I am no longer in

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it, which made it all the more awkward when it came out and I was listed as a supporting

02:49:00.400 --> 02:49:04.000
actor in the credits. What is it called though?

02:49:04.000 --> 02:49:07.000
War of Worlds? War of the Worlds. War of the Worlds.

02:49:07.000 --> 02:49:12.560
Yeah, it's like kind of a, well, I don't actually know exactly what it is anymore because it

02:49:12.560 --> 02:49:19.120
was something and then obviously whatever lines I read, unless I, it's possible I was

02:49:19.120 --> 02:49:25.440
simply recast, that's entirely possible, it's also possible that whatever lines I had are

02:49:25.440 --> 02:49:32.960
no longer in the movie, which I think, um, oh yeah, you, you were, you read the script.

02:49:32.960 --> 02:49:37.600
There's a lot we could say. There's, okay, so that's the thing.

02:49:37.600 --> 02:49:40.640
I have to figure out what we can say.

02:49:40.640 --> 02:49:45.520
Yeah. Cause the thing is like, I'm not, I'm not looking to, I don't want to get anybody into

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trouble. Like on the one hand, like I think that, you know, there's, there's the, there's, there's

02:49:54.480 --> 02:50:00.640
a bit of a gulf between what you like technically are allowed to say and what you're probably

02:50:00.640 --> 02:50:06.680
allowed to say. And I'm going to figure out how to get as close to here as we can.

02:50:06.680 --> 02:50:11.320
And it should be, it should be, it should be pretty, it should be pretty okay.

02:50:11.320 --> 02:50:17.200
There are definitely going to be some things that we can't talk about, but some of the

02:50:17.200 --> 02:50:28.520
stuff should be, should be fine. Like, um, the fact that we were asked to do some like kind of technical advisory work

02:50:28.520 --> 02:50:33.600
to, to help make sure that like, you know, anything to do with hacking or whatever else

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wasn't too, you know, outlandish.

02:50:38.680 --> 02:50:46.040
What I will say though, is that whatever advice we provided, I have not seen the movie.

02:50:46.040 --> 02:50:54.240
I want to make that abundantly clear right now. So anything I'm saying comes from a place of I have not seen this movie, um, whatever

02:50:54.240 --> 02:50:59.640
advice we provided, whatever lines I read clearly didn't happen.

02:50:59.640 --> 02:51:05.440
So if you guys see anything in this movie, we didn't know about it.

02:51:05.440 --> 02:51:08.840
We didn't see it. We didn't advise on it.

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At some point, I think I asked them to take me out of the credits as like a technical

02:51:15.360 --> 02:51:18.600
advisor because they wouldn't, well, hold on.

02:51:18.600 --> 02:51:23.800
I don't know. Yeah. I can say what I said that I know for sure.

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Yeah. Um, any who, yeah.

02:51:29.880 --> 02:51:32.880
So it's finally out.

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Uh, I'm just, I'm just going to keep just getting a little bit.

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I don't know. That's as far as I can go. Okay.

02:51:41.040 --> 02:51:46.480
Well, that's not a good sign. Um, huh.

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Rest assured says you should watch it.

02:51:50.320 --> 02:51:54.640
I think I'd rather make the video before I watch it.

02:51:54.640 --> 02:51:59.660
I just want to talk about the experience because whether I'm actually in the, in the

02:51:59.660 --> 02:52:04.440
finished film or not, it was a really, it was a really unique experience.

02:52:04.440 --> 02:52:09.960
It was something that I didn't do for the money. Um, like I wasn't paid very much.

02:52:09.960 --> 02:52:15.040
Um, I just, I just did it because it was kind of something to tick off the bucket list.

02:52:15.040 --> 02:52:23.880
So even if I'm not in the final cut, I did, you know, act in a scene with ice cube sort

02:52:23.880 --> 02:52:27.200
of, it was shot over, it was shot over COVID.

02:52:27.200 --> 02:52:34.760
Yeah. And it was, I think it was before he said a lot of the stuff that he said.

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So you know, oh, I don't even, oh yeah. Oh, I have no idea.

02:52:39.720 --> 02:52:42.720
Oh yeah. Sounds good. I have no clue.

02:52:42.720 --> 02:52:46.320
This was like five years ago. Okay. Yeah.

02:52:46.320 --> 02:52:50.120
Um, and like, so yeah, to be clear, it was COVID.

02:52:50.120 --> 02:52:58.200
So like I was on a webcam. He was on a webcam, you know, like we were never in the same room, but I was technically

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involved in a Hollywood production. Technically.

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Apparently my mic is dying. Mic is dying?

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Mic bad. No audio. Wow.

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Audio. Ow. Okay.

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Let me look at that. Did I fix it? It sounds fine to me.

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Did I fix it? It sounds fine to me.

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I'm hearing your mic and it's fine.

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Oh, your mics. They're down on our topics.

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Here is it.

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Your phone? No, it's not my phone.

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Okay. Okay! Okay!

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Okay! Okay, let's do some merch messages. It's time for After Dark.

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Sorry about that, guys. Sorry, everyone.

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Our sample rates got out of sync.

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I hate it when that happens. It is awful. That is actually the worst.

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They got out of sync and so we sunk.

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That's why I disabled your speakers. Yep.

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Wait, that's why? No, I just wanted to make a call back.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, I was like, what? Where's my buttons?

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Now I'm all flustered, sorry.

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Magenta. Nice. After Dark.

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Nice. Merch messages. Nice.

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Dear DLL, I'm curious how your team navigates,

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balancing the most fun outlandish ideas while still keeping videos reasonable

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and cost-effective to produce. Me too.

02:56:32.680 --> 02:56:40.680
It's tough. I mean, I think we bring both perspectives to the table,

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right, through the team of people

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that are responsible for bringing these things to life. Like, the writer's meeting is full of all kinds of wacky, zany ideas,

02:56:49.680 --> 02:56:53.680
and obviously it has to be grounded in the reality

02:56:53.680 --> 02:56:58.680
of actually producing this stuff on a budget that we can afford.

02:56:58.680 --> 02:57:01.680
Sometimes we do make loss-leader content

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that is just designed from the ground up,

02:57:06.680 --> 02:57:09.680
knowing that we're going to lose money on it just because we wanted to do something cool,

02:57:09.680 --> 02:57:12.680
whether that's because we just wanted to,

02:57:12.680 --> 02:57:15.680
because it was fun, or whether that's because we think it's a prestige piece

02:57:15.680 --> 02:57:21.680
for the channel, or whether... I mean, really, those are the only two main reasons.

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Or if we think it could be an investment in people being really interested in that content in the future,

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I don't think we've really ever done anything like that, though.

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And then, yeah, the keeping things cost-effective

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just comes down to that we've always, from day one,

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tried to run this as a sustainable business that doesn't need to take outside capital

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from investors or private equity.

02:57:45.680 --> 02:57:50.680
Sometimes even things that you might expect will end up being a loss on the content creation side.

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Sometimes a video will just slap. Yeah, we've gotten lucky before.

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Like, building that PC in that tech mall all that time ago,

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I didn't think that would... Of course you'd think that would be a loss. I didn't think that was going to perform the way it did.

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And then it just... Was a banger. Went super hard.

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Yep. That's great. Sometimes the things that the audience might expect would be a loss.

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Like the fire truck. We might not, because there was a plan.

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We knew we were going to make money on the fire truck April Fools.

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Yep. But then that's not necessarily the goal every April Fools.

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No. It wasn't with the house. The office moved one to the house we lost a flip ton of money on.

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That thing I showed you that Jaden's working on

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cost us very little.

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I think it would be really cool if we did a synchronized thing.

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It doesn't necessarily have to be with LTT. I'm sure you guys have your own idea.

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But I'd love to do a synchronized thing with the store. I think that would be really cool.

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That'd be pretty cool. Because the vibes are immaculate.

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Oh. Goodness.

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Yeah. I think doing a synchronized thing with the store would be awesome.

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More. More. I saw the Fairphone 6 Gen 6 video today.

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And I was wondering if you had any comments on the less exciting launch of it in the US.

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Namely, only having the de-googled version officially at $900.

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This is actually the first time hearing of that, which is a little frustrating given that I did shoot my ShortCircuit of it.

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Oh. It's up.

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I went up this morning.

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Okay. Hopefully nobody's mad about the fact that I'm not talking about that.

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I hate their naming scheme, by the way.

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It's called Fairphone Gen 6.

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So we went Fairphone, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Fairphone 4, Fairphone 5.

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Fairphone Gen 6.

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That needs to stop. The entire industry needs to get together and say,

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hey, so this is really stupid. Can we all not do this anymore at all?

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And then everyone needs to go, yeah, right? What was up with that?

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And then that would be super cool. Other than that, it seems like a much more competent daily driver device with the same great benefits of Fairphone,

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like the long software support, as well as the use of hopefully less harmful materials.

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The software support one, though, is becoming less of an issue now that so many of the major handset makers

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are committing to supporting their devices for six, seven years even.

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Yeah, sorry. I just, I don't know much about the less exciting U.S. launch.

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First time hearing of it.

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I have a Steam Deck and an OG ROG Ally that has stopped working.

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Should I get an Ally or an Ally X now?

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Or do you think the price when performance of the Xbox ROG Ally is worth the wait?

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Or a Legion Go, lol. I don't know.

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I don't know exactly how it's going to shake out.

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What I suspect is that it's going to be a very substantial performance upgrade

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and also a substantial performance per watt upgrade,

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but I've only been hands-on with the hardware for like three minutes playing a game.

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To me, it's very interesting.

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Has some version of Windows. Yeah. It's intriguing.

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Very intriguing. That might be a reason for you to buy.

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There might be a reason for you to not buy. The biggest reason for me to wait right now would be that we're clearly on the precipice

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of a real next gen in mobile PC hardware.

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And either the ROG Ally X to whatever they're calling it is going to be like the one

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if you want to pony up for it.

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Or what I'm kind of hoping for is that we'll see a second gen Steam Deck to go toe-to-toe with it.

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That's sort of what I'm hoping for. Because Valve has never said, oh yeah, we're not going to do another Steam Deck.

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What they've said is we're not going to do it until there's a clear generational leap in performance.

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And I feel like we're getting there. I feel like we're getting real close.

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I saw this really interesting article talking about how the PC handheld makers are.

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They're missing the point by having these really expensive handheld gaming PCs.

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But I feel like they were asking for something that's just not realistic.

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They were like, yeah, they missed Valve's point. The leadership Valve was trying to take with the affordable price.

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And it's like, yeah, but like Valve can only do that because they're subsidizing it with the 30% they take on Steam.

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IA Neo doesn't have Steam.

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They have to make on the hardware what Valve expects to make over the entire lifetime of that device being deployed.

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Yeah.

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I can read the next one. It's for me. Oh, I'll read it then.

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Sure. Hey Luke, I convinced work to send me to DEF CON.

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Any tips for a first time attendee? Also, what villages are you most interested in?

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First off, congratulations on convincing your work to send you to DEF CON.

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I'm not sure how you did that as someone who has been there before.

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But nice. Sorry if your boss is watching.

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There's like a much more business focus con that happens like right there at like almost the same time called Black Hat.

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But DEF CON is cool. You'll have a good time.

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What villages are you most interested in? Last time I hit the show floor for like 20 minutes and then went to a hotel room and worked on puzzles until the last hour of the show.

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I did not clarify what the puzzles are. We didn't pay for your trip, did we?

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No. Cool. Yeah, no. I took time off.

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Carry on. Yeah, I did not think at all that I could make a business case for me going down there.

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And given what I did the whole time, I was right.

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They might have a different experience.

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Security researchers can totally pull it off.

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Yeah, saying pull it off in that sentence doesn't make it sound a ton more legit.

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There are panels and stuff that are really cool. I have panels like on my NAS from pre-YouTube DEF CON that were like security based stuff that I thought was super interesting.

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So I was interested in getting into the field. Like it's a thing.

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I think most of the show is like fun and interesting stuff.

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And like there's definitely some learning things.

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Like there's the lockpicking village you can go to and there's like,

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I thought it was kind of cool that they brought an actual like fence.

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And the fence just had a whole bunch of different types of locks on it.

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And you could sit there and practice with different lockpicks and stuff.

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That was pretty neat.

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But yeah, any tips for a first time attendee?

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No, because I was in the building for like two total hours.

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So sorry, I can't really say a ton. I had a blast.

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It was really fun. It was really cool working with all the different people on the team that I was on and trying to compete with other people and do all that kind of stuff is a really cool experience.

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And it is a legitimate DEF CON experience because during DEF CON there are all these like puzzle cracking CTF type of things going on.

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And some of them you don't have to be on the show floor for by the time I actually started doing the puzzles.

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A lot of people had gotten the things that you needed to get from the show floor itself already.

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There was an element of that. But by the time I started that was already done.

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So we just sat in the hotel room on laptops and worked.

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But yeah, I would recommend at least, I'm going to recommend something I didn't do, but I had planned to do sample all the different areas.

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Go hang out for like half an hour in each little area.

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Don't get don't get don't do what I did and get too obsessed with like one thing.

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Dacura says don't use random USB cables.

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Good advice. Don't use random anything while you're there.

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Although I did. I purposely brought an old pixel phone that had been left in a box not updated for a long time and refused updates and went there with an old not secured pixel phone and jumped on every single open Wi-Fi network.

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I possibly could. The whole time I was there hoping that I would get intruded on never happened.

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Well, I'm surprised actually me too. It's interesting.

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Someone else at Theo was also doing the same thing.

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We both came up with the same idea but didn't tell each other and he also didn't have anything happened.

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Wow, no ponage. It was interesting. All right.

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I'm not expecting someone to drop a zero day on like my random phone, but it wouldn't have been a zero day.

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This was an ancient like multi year, no updates.

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Android phone. Maybe you just seemed too juicy and too obvious like you were asking for it.

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Maybe. All right. Hit me, Dan.

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Hi, luck and Danana. I made the geared maker chip at open sauce.

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That's cool. Did you read this? No, I can't remember.

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Can you talk a little bit about your experience in favorite booths?

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I loved the NASA booth. Dan also went.

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I'm also interested in Dan's thoughts on this. The geared maker chip was cool.

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I saw a few of those. Can you talk a little bit about your experience in your favorite booths?

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I didn't see a huge amount of booths. I did go out of my way to make sure I went through the amateur rocketry section.

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That was really cool. Seeing a bunch of like the school teams.

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There was a kid there who had done a bunch of work making his own carbon fiber rockets

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and like talking about the work that went into that and stuff.

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I got to chat with him for a while, which was awesome. That's super cool.

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I got a demo from one of the teams. That was an individual.

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I got a demo from one of the teams on how they were working their fuel injectors and how

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they were bringing the cost down for it and the machining that goes into that and the

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trial and error that goes into that and all that kind of stuff. Really, really cool section.

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I was happy I went to go through that. That was probably my favorite section in terms of interest.

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I thought the most fun part was probably 4D Counter Strike.

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It's fun watching you fiddle around with that.

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It's very similar to the punishment thing that you guys did for Ludwig, where there

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was a 1v1 setup of Counter Strike and I played against Tynan.

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They had it so that all of the throwables, so the frag grenade, the incendiary, the smoke

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and the decoy. I think the decoy did something, I don't remember.

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If you threw a smoke grenade and then stood in the smoke, there was a leaf blower right

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next to your head and the leaf blow would turn on if you were in the smoke and it would

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just like blah, it's hard to hear and actually keep your eyes open and play properly and

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stuff. If you stood in an incendiary, they had it work in reverse, so obviously they can't light

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something on fire, but they would spray you with water.

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There was water guns set up.

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If you got hit by fragmentation from a frag grenade, there was a motor attached to your

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monitor and your monitor would bounce all over the place.

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It was actually like... That's pretty cool. It was pretty sweet.

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It was fun to engage with.

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It was really cool. I'm not going to necessarily say it was the most impressive thing there.

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If you were going for impressiveness, there was a ton of really wild booths.

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What was that? Printer? You're going to understand this more than me.

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Oh, the one that went to space. Yeah.

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Yeah. It's a printer that prints into Goop and it basically rotates the vial of Goop and then...

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They shoot ultraviolet, I think? Yeah, something like that and it solidifies it as it spins, so you can do things in zero

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gravity. You can create a 3D object, including with hollow insides.

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Yeah, it just builds it as it rotates. You can create a swirling straw, like a spiraling straw, and it could actually be hollow on the

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inside and you can do it in zero gravity and you can do it in Goop.

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Didn't they make a glass out of it or something? Yeah, glass, diamonds, all that sort of stuff.

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It's centered or something like that. Wild.

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What is it actually... Do you remember what it's called? No, I do not.

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But they did the thinking man, so thinking man and tube 3D printer would probably be a

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good way to find out... Thinking man, tube 3D printer.

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Yeah, they actually had one of the printers there that they had sent to space.

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At least I think so. I don't know if we're going to be able to find this very easily, but it was really, really

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cool.

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Very, very impressive. Was it by made in space? I'm not sure.

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Maybe it was.

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I don't know. But it was awesome, it was very cool to see, and there was a lot of other really impressive

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things as well. But I didn't see all of the booths, so I'm sure there was really cool stuff that I didn't

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get to see. Cool. But it was great.

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Yeah, that printer was quite a thing to behold.

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Absolutely, yeah. But really just watching it happen was fascinating.

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Oh yeah, it happens in real time, you see it spin and then this object just slowly appears.

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You can just see, it's just goop, and there's clearly light on the goop, and then you start

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to see like a shadow of the thing almost.

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I don't really know how to describe it. Yeah, it's like a little tiny ghost of it appears inside, and then it just gets more

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and more. And then it starts becoming more and more real. It's weird.

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It's cool, but it's weird. And it's because as it rotates, the like video that they're playing essentially, it's being

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projected onto it. So you know our CT scanner?

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How that looks like it's pictures, then get recombined into a full image?

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It's like the reverse of that. Like you play it a CT scanner video, and then the projector onto the gel surface.

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And because of the video playing, exposure to that light concentrated on certain points

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as it's spinning and changing axial lithography.

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What now? Computed axial lithography.

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You see Berkeley. Open Cal, there's also a GitHub repository as well.

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Open Cal, it's open source layerless 3D printing, which is pretty sick.

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So computed axial lithography, there's a 3D printing nerd video on it.

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I'm looking at it right now. Yeah. Good luck, have fun.

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Okay, cool. Yeah, this was nuts. Wanna hit me with another one?

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Sure. Linus says he loves eating cereal for breakfast, but is cereal, if cereal is not available,

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what are the breakfast foods do you like? Mine is eggs Benedict with pulled pork, sauteed green peppers, and home fries.

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Not a big eggs guy, which makes it really tough.

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I guess I like me a breakfast burrito is what I'll go for.

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And I know they always have eggs in them, but I guess the burrito makes it palatable

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for me. I also would never say no to a Belgian waffle with like fruit sauce on it, or ideally fresh

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fruit and whipped cream.

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Not really a breakfast guy. Honestly, the place where I eat breakfast most consistently is Taiwan, and it's cause

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I'll go to like a family mart or a 7-Eleven and get a banana.

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And they have a name, but I just lovingly call them the triangles, but I always forget

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what they're actually called. Onigiri. Maybe that's it, but it's a triangle of seaweed with rice in the inside and then some like

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meat or something else on the inside of that.

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And you have to, you peel the plastic on the outside, you pull the plastic off and that

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allows the seaweed and the rice to touch each other. So the seaweed stays fresh while it's in the packaging.

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That's cool. Musubi. Musubi.

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Musubi. I don't think I've heard it called that before.

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I think I just ate soup dumplings for breakfast this year.

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It's not really breakfast, but not really. I'll do it.

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That sounds awesome. Let me see. All right.

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Hit me. Last one I got for you tonight. With Google having AI overviews that divert traffic away from sites where the info comes

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from but still links there. How does that compare to Wikipedia compiling info on a page with links to sources?

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So I think the difference is that Wikipedia is not compiling info on a page.

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They are using the page as a source, but Wikipedia is compiling information on a subject.

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Whereas the AI overview, a lot of the time, it'll reference multiple sources in like a

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bibliography, but looking at the copy of the AI overview versus the page that it is taking

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it from. A lot of the time, there's enough verbatim there that I think there's far less of an

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argument to be made that it's like a fair use sort of transformative use of it.

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There's also the fact that Wikipedia is happening by hand and AI is automated.

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This actually reminds me a lot of the argument that people made back when during the whole

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like ad block piracy thing where they'd go, well Linus, is it piracy to get up and walk

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away from your computer QED? Well, no, it's the automation that makes it a circumvention mechanism.

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It's not the mere fact that you didn't consume the advertisement.

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So the fact that it's highly automated happening at scale and seemingly just ripping the content

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right off the page in a lot of cases that to me makes it less defensible.

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Even just for you as a user, I would hazard against using them, not even for any moral

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reason or whatever else, but just because dude, they are so often wrong.

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Those summary things I have found to be even higher error rate than standard chats.

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We had an applicant for our writing position that we were interviewing earlier this week

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and he was talking about me discussing the inaccuracy and how often the chatbot lied

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to me and he asked it something as simple as like, when did this model of Ford vehicle

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get power Windows? And it was wrong like three times.

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And he knew the answer so he was like, no, and it's like, oh, you're right.

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I just extrapolated based on that that was the first year that this other Ford vehicle

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got power Windows. He's like, no, you're actually not right about that either. Oh, yeah, you're right.

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I was like, yeah, they just they just hallucinate a lot.

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I really I really want to fit this whole I'm sure it's findable.

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I really want to figure out what the metric is when you will say it's, it's correct 90%

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of the time. I mean, the grammar is usually pretty correct, 90% of the time does that count?

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Does that count? I don't know. Like, do these words form a coherent sentence even if the meaning of it is completely inaccurate?

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If there's one small thing that's incorrect in a response that it gives, does that mean

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that the entire response is incorrect or because the overall response was mostly right?

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Is that counted as correct? Like where are the lines on this?

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I think it's wrong. I agree. Like, okay, because I do not run into 90% of the time.

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It's perfect. That is not reflective of my experience of it.

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Okay. So back when I was researching the gamer plane, my son was trying to figure out if it could

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fly somewhere. You remember the one I was talking about, right? My son was trying to figure out if it could fly somewhere nonstop.

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And it goes, this is the range of this plane, which it got right.

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This is the distance of this place, which it got right.

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And the distance was greater than the range. And then it said, yes, it can fly there nonstop.

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So it got all, all the base facts right, but drew the wrong conclusion.

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It's like, well, that to me is wrong. Because if you don't read it carefully, then you're going to, you're not going to know

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the right answer. Interesting.

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I know someone who actively works in human reinforcement learning.

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This is from Tim, 0, 0, 0, 3, sorry, 0, 0, X3.

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I know someone who actively works in human reinforcement learning for Gemini AI.

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And I can tell you that there is a score based on very specific phrases in an entire response.

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And each response is deemed, and each response is deemed how accurate is individually.

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Yeah. What I'm saying is that example that I gave would be 66% correct according to how the

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metrics- Yeah, in my opinion, that should count as a zero. That's a zero, in my opinion as well.

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So I think, I think 90% is artificially inflated high.

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Oh yeah, no doubt.

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No doubt that we'll see you again next week.

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Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye.