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You know, you know, it's the right thing to do. Nope. Get rekt. I got new wax today

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Watch this

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See I can slide my my lips over my teeth now. Oh

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They'll put like semi-permanent wax over the tops of these

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It's funny Watching everyone at my orthodontist trip over themselves to

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Pretend that they have no idea that these things are crazy sharp

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And I'm just like I don't believe that nobody's ever told you this before

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After you put them on you admitted you knew that they sat prouder from the tooth and that they were textured which

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Basically is like a billion little

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serrated blades cutting into the insides of your mouth. Do you have like

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Like inside of your mouth calluses not yet. That's the problem

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And they're taking way longer to develop versus a smooth metal

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Yeah, because it's textured. It's ceramic

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Needless to say I will not be accepting light forces sponsorship

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Don't think I feel like endorsing these was that a thing or you just saying that for fun

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Oh, they wanted to they reached out I don't know if I don't know if there would have been any kind of sponsorship or anything

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But we heard from them and then I sent them a bunch of my feedback and then I don't think we've heard from them again

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That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah, I do have a way with people

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What's that book how to lose friends and irritate people

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It's a thing wait is it yeah, someone wrote a business book

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That's how to I forget how to how to lose friends and alienate people maybe it's a movie

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It would be Simon Pegg Nice

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We're already pretty late today. So should we just get this thing started? Yeah

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It has nothing to do with that. I don't want to wear the late hat for longer

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When do you get to take it off just when we actually start the show? Yeah, it's just a pre-show thing

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It is I think I think I wore it. I don't know but I

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Think I remember last time it felt like it was too long whatever amount of time it was

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I don't remember What the deal was but I felt like it was too long

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Okay, oh my back. Oh I can't crack it. Come on back. Oh

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There it goes Oh

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There goes the other side. Okay, that's much better

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Oh, all right, let's do this thing

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Are you jealous you'll never get to wear the hat not Linus was trying to establish that before the show. No, I'm not he's jealous

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I'm completely okay with never wearing the hat. He's he's gelatinous. I'm going for a shutout this season

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Shutout. Yep It's gonna be pretty tough. I don't think so. It's gonna be pretty tough. Apparently I'm 4-0 already. Don't make me sabotage you

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We'll see. All right, I'm punching it

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I screwed up Daniel have to tell me when we're live. I don't mind how they laptop up

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You should be like, hey

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What's up, and welcome to the f***ing when show that's right my friends YouTube has changed their

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guidelines suddenly for Reasons that are not entirely clear to me, but we'll be talking about it later

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Allowing profanity within the first few seconds of a video without marking them as no longer

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Advertiser friendly, that's right. My friends we can say words like

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Do I do I bleep it? I think so because we we always were like that population

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Yeah Yeah, also other news. I haven't done my second one yet. I just got excited

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In other news

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LMG is Canadian propaganda now. That's right

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There's a new little end card thing on all of our videos

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That's all like funded by the government of Canada

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We really have some we're like Lucy because we have some spleen and to-do

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Sure, yeah, you took mine darn it. I do try

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That's a mean one I wanted to do how I assert my dominance. No, okay, I also pee on your things

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We we mentioned there being a Bredisaurus game

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Last WAN Show and there is one apparently that happened really fast. Yeah, that was crazy. So we'll check that out

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Also, the Internet Archive is now a US federal depository library, which is actually awesome

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The show is brought to you today by thorom

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Squarespace and Vessie alongside of course our rap partner D brand our laptop partner Dell and our chair partner

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Secret lab. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic this?

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This surprised the

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Man, it's hard to do it But I don't I don't necessarily think that we should because we never did old habits die hard, but we never did so I think it's okay

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Okay, well, why don't I read the thing first? Yeah, I'm this was prepared by Adam from the writing team

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He says Advertise here you little shit

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YouTube allows shit as fuck

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Sucker mother fucker It's and more in the first seven seconds two years ago

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The money hungry worms that YouTube said that any fucking video that swore in the first seven seconds

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Wouldn't be monetized. Well, that's changed now. You can swear again in their video

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YouTube specifically says that asshole and bitch are

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They do not provide any more examples, which is unfortunate because I always love it when

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corporations just kind of like in the interest of of of

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Explicitness pun intended Give examples say bad words or got it talk about you know sexual things. Yeah, you know tell yet

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No, no, tell me exactly what's allowed

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High-frequency squaring across the whole video is still an ad policy violation, however. Oh shit

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I mean, I'm bleeping is bleeping it but but what's interesting about this is the word through the grapevine though

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I don't think I ever had anyone concretely confirmed this for me the word through the grapevine was that even

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high-frequency of Expletive deleted beeps

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Maybe now maybe it won't be as much hateful speech is still a policy violation

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So if you're to say I fucking hate you so much, that's not hate speech you guys get the point

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YouTube has not provided more specific information as to where the profanity line exists. So we're still going to be running on vibes

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YouTube is also this is interesting

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Re-monetizing older content that was in violation of the policy assuming of course that that was the only

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violation now because this topic was prepared by Adam naturally our discussion question is what's your favorite swear?

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I think I know your answer and I don't think you can say that still

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Shouldn't laugh so much on that one. Yeah What you're talking about?

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Unfortunately, it's just a it's just a fun word. Yeah, it's like a happy word. Yeah, you know, it's just it it rolls

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my my Sadness with that is the way that it like

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And but and I agree with that It's just there isn't another word that sounds like that and like plays like that in a sentence. Yep. Yep. No, no

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I I mourn the loss of of that. I get it. I agree with it's also

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It's also one of those words that can be a sentence. Yeah, you know and and that's

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You know, it's just like you think about that and you're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, it sucks

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I wish that word didn't mean what it meant. Yeah, sure. Yeah, if that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah

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I think you guys probably core original was also different

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Words are weird. Oh, oh a hundred percent words are weird a hundred percent

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You know what realistically my favorite swear word is also not a swear word

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It goes really well with a swear word I can tell you that much and

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You might say that I dropped it casually in my high school years

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I'm just reading chat

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It was so cool

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Yeah, it never comes up for you ever does it look

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And and and you know what for for for me again like I

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Totally understand why that word has fallen out of favor

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I Do have to admit I don't really see the difference

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We it used to be that it seems worse now

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Sorry in what sense though the words that people use like in lieu of it seem worse now in my well, yeah

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Yeah, because that is wild to me is is people always move on

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But it's like we we definitely escalated and people seem fine with the escalation

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I'm sure that will not be true in like two years or something. Yeah, I mean it's it's one

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Okay, here's the thing people are always going to

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That will always be Just like any of the other traits that people will bully each other over that will always be

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something that people will attack and

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when People are looking for a trendy new word to use to hurl at each other they go straight to the medical textbooks

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You know idiot you can just totally say

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More on you can just totally say

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They literally like literally though actually literally at some point or another particularly idiot literally meant the exact

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But like we've we've drawn We've drawn this like

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This line and we're like That was okay. Yeah that one we well, it's not I don't think that it's that it's okay

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I think if you asked someone to really sit down and think about it. It's like okay. Well, why why can you say

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Why can you say like why can't you why does nobody flinch?

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You know when you call someone a moron or you say that's that's an idiotic thing to say

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Whatever else like nobody really bats an eye

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But like the bull But that word They'll be like, oh, yeah, no no those other ones are bad too. I thought for a while was that it was because of

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One of them being more of a category

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But then the new word in that field is also specific again

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So yeah, no, it's it's a Clearly that wasn't the case like we're just we're just talking we're talking about the like the more spectrum-y word

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Right that has sort of taken the place which is which is funny to me because

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like I'm not even necessarily convinced that being on the spectrum like is an insult

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Um, a lot of people really own it, which I think is cool to be honest. Yeah

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Whereas like just sort of broadly your your mental capacity is low seems like a more of an insult

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I also think these days it's very common for people to identify like any little minor thing about practically

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Anyone and be like that means you are on the spectrum

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It's just like bruh at a certain point if you're going to include all this stuff

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We just all are so well, that's the whole thing. It's a spectrum humanity. I guess if dark rainbow says

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I think the r-word is actually a medical term question mark. Yeah, but so was it. Yeah

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Like that's the whole thing is like idiot became the favored medical term

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And then people started using it to insult each other So they made a new word and then people started using that to insult each other. So they like

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Made a new word. I mean, I feel like look Uh, not on the playground because the timing would have been right for that

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But like by the time I was in high school, you'd have people throwing things like differently abled at each other

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literally just Taking whatever was the the most politically correct

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Terminology that anyone could possibly come up with and going. Oh, well, let's just use that then

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Right, just say it in a certain tone. Yeah, it's more about the tone

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And maybe that's something that we that we that bothers us so much about the the r-word is that it is so fun to say

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it's like It it it yeah in the exact opposite way that the one that I liked was fun to say

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Yes, because that one's d-d-d-d and the other one's

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Yeah, you can you can extend it. Yeah. Yeah, and so and look like I I fully support that there are very good reasons that

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Or rather there's just no reason

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To, you know stomp on a group of people with our language if there isn't a good reason for it

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Um, and so, you know, do I necessarily subscribe to that?

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You know, I I should Constantly have to be keeping up to date with every single, you know

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Sensitivity around every single word. No, I don't I don't think that's possible

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Um, but you know once you know once you're informed of you know, what the what the impact of something is words

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Do you have power? You know that whole sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me

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It's like yeah, they can't break your bones, but to say that they can't hurt you

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I think you'd have to be pretty stone cold to uh To never have anything that anyone said hurt your feelings because it's not the words that do it, right?

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Of course, it's the it's the negative energy that someone is projecting at you

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um So anywho, what's my favorite swear?

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I don't know. I guess I don't really I guess I don't really have one anymore

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Love me a good f-bomb though. It's so versatile

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I don't know if there's one I use more than that is probably the most versatile word that we like have at all pretty much

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Because it's just used for everything good bad

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Whatever yeah, it's the it's the the filler word of all filler words

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I'm gonna go with that then yeah sure Oh, you could make any non-swear word into a swear. What would it be?

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See that's impossible I because at a at a certain point they lose all of their original meaning so you could really pick any word

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Some people are saying clanker clanker. I don't know but that feels very forced to me. Yeah, I know it's it's apparently trending right now

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Let's go with bread Bread. Yeah, I thought bucket bucket. You know what? I like bucket because I my whole thing is I like

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Bucket let's do it feel to say and how they sound out. I care a lot more about that than

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Like that's the reason why I like that one word that we're not saying is because it it it like

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How it feels to say and how it kind of flows and sounds out and how you can integrate and how you can extend it and all

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That kind of stuff is why I like the word not the other stuff, right?

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Um, so I I kind of like bucket right because it you know what I'm gonna go with regarded

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I We should move on

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Suddenly everyone cares about the children

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Not you Uh

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It's not just the uk Uh, youtube has started rolling out age estimation technology to a small set of users in the us

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Starting august 13th if the platform thinks that you are under 18

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It will activate protection measures like non personalized ads. Okay, cool

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Um, it will enable the take a break and bedtime reminders

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And it will alter recommendations

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Yeah, honestly, I mean these all Maybe this should just roll them out platform. Well, anyway, um, google is taking similar measures with some us based google accounts over the next few weeks

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The australian government Is nixing an exception they were going to make for youtube in the country's social media ban come december accounts for users under 16 will be illegal

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in other news Spotify Is threatening to delete uk user accounts if they fail an age verification test

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Here's a list of off-com approved methods for age verification in the uk

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You can do facial age estimation so you show your face via photo or video and technology analyzes it to estimate your age

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Open banking You give permission for the age check service to securely access information from your bank about whether you're over 18

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The age check service then confirms this with the site or app

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Keep that keep that keep that train going Digital identity services these include digital identity wallets which can securely store and share information which proves your age in a digital format

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Credit card age checks you provide your credit card details and your payment processor checks if the card is valid

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Because you must be over 18 to obtain a credit card. This shows you're over 18. Was I over 18 when I got my first credit card?

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Try to think I thought I had like a parent cosine one before I was 18. I could have sworn I did

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I'm looking at something somebody else sent that they said was cool new grounds

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Well, someone said that now that's a name. I've not heard in a long time

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I haven't heard anyone say new grounds in forever, but somebody said that new grounds is doing an age checking that is actually really cool

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So I want to see you hold on. Let me get through the rest of the officially approved ones

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email based age estimation wait

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Other online services where it has been used such as banking or utility providers to estimate your age

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Mobile network operator age checks So you give permission for an age check service to confirm whether or not your mobile phone number has age filters applied to it

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And photo id matching So this is similar to a check where you show a document

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Here are some sites that are verifying and this is from the bbc

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um pornhub And a number of other major adult websites have confirmed that they will introduce enhanced age checks

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Discord gives uk users a choice of face or id scanning as a way to verify their age

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um And after testing methods, uh blue sky said after testing whatever blue sky says it will give uk users a range of different verification options

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To determine user age, which is effectively pay access to be clear. This is hilarious small one time v

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This is hilarious. We can't verify this right now not easily anyway

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But apparently some folks in the uk are using gary's mod to circumvent uk censorship

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Pretty fantastic. Oh my god, that is amazing

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Pretty fantastic. I hope it's real. I really hope it's real. Well last week we talked about how they use desk branding

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Yeah, so they're using games either way. I just liked I just liked the gary's mod one better

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I think it's hilarious that they're they're It's openly talking about how they're not going to regulate ai, which I mean I've talked about how I don't think it would work

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Anyways, even if they tried so it is what it is But um, they're openly talking about how they're not going to regulate ai and they're saying oh by the way

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We're going to verify your age based on a picture That is a those two things happening at the same time is genuinely hilarious to me because people are using like video games

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Especially gary's mod. My opinion is really funny. The easiest way to do this would just be to generate a picture

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Yeah, well, don't forget they they ask you to do stuff But even then you could just generate an avatar. Yeah

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It's pretty trivial. This is literally a solved problem

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As our version of age verification. Like are you kidding me? How disconnected?

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How completely disconnected lawmakers seem to be from tech and how it works

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Let's make it an enormous massive

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incredible pot of extremely valuable information for people to

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steal and hoard For all of the people that are going to approach this legitimately and let's also make it incredibly easy to get around illegitimately

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um So that it is completely ineffective to anyone who really wants to actually access this content

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And shouldn't for whatever reason or we don't want to maybe I'll say that

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um But we are still collecting an incredibly valuable hoard of information just to make sure that someone can steal it

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That that is all that is happening is completely ineffective

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Completely worthless and a huge pot of valuable information for now. Look if I could believe

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That they were actually going to just ingest this information

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process the check Send back a validation

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Code or something like that and it was immediately deleted

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If I could actually trust that that was happening

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Look If I could trust that that was actually happening perfectly

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Then this stuff wouldn't bother me as much but to luke's point about creating

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treasure troves of data for people to target

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I think that's way more likely unfortunately or even treasure troves of pipelines of data

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Like you're saying even if it's immediately deleted. Well, they had it for a period of time when I say those systems are compromised

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Okay, when I say immediately deleted though, I'm talking end to end encrypted and immediately deleted

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I'm talking if they were doing it if I could trust them to do it properly

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Because that's the problem in general I am fairly supportive of the idea of not having to carry around a stupid plastic card

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That validates if I'm allowed to operate a motor vehicle

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What fucking year is it? But the flip side is I don't trust them to do the other way properly. Yeah, that's the problem

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If I could Then obviously the utopia is that I just have everything tracked digitally if I if I don't care

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And I have you know plastic paper

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Physical options if I do care choice. I'm advocating for choice

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But either way it should be done with security first

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And I just don't trust and to be clear. I'm not singling out the uk government here

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No, it's happening in lots of places. I'm not singling out the us government or the australian government

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Which is why I didn't name any specific governments. It's just all of them in a in a bucket

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All of those governments are very well regarded Oh

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Language we're not gonna make it out here. I didn't say it. I said off you said more than that

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Oh man, oh man did Dan leave

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I mean, yeah, I guess it's better to just take off before the pitchforks and torches show up

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Yeah, I'll let you want to talk about next because I without him putting things on the signs

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I literally don't know what to do. I think it's just topic two

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That was topic two. Oh really? Yeah

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Oh Should we talk about this petition one? Oh, I was going to do LMG is canadian propaganda. Sure. Yeah, let's do it

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Might as well tell the people. Okay. So our sources are our reddit

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Who noticed this it's truly amazing how reddit can notice things multiple times

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I think this is like the fourth post reddit is really good at noticing on the subreddit notice stuff. So we uh

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We recently had this Show up in our end cards on our videos funded by the government of canada. Oh, excuse me. Sorry

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uh financed by the government of canada

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We went to josh from the accounting department or rather nick pluf did from the from the writing team

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He has a display by the way. Um, he went to josh and said good to know. Uh, we are getting government tax credits

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We applied through cavco the canadian audio visual certification office and have received tax credits from the cra the canadian revenue agency

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Is it canadian revenue or canada revenue agency? I thought it was canadian. It doesn't matter. It's it's the cra. I care. I'm looking it up

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It's the tax man canada

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cavco Yes Cavco does not dictate and has no control over what content we produce

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Um, this funding could be revoked at their discretion

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And to support the fact that our content is not controlled the funding actually occurs

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post production cycle, which is something that I have actually

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Uh, there are that I have made over the years is that some of this funding appears to be appears to have

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um many hoops that need to be jumped through and also many

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More badly than anyone then then more established companies do it makes it kind of hard for them to get it with that said

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If these tax credits are out there And we do have the capacity to apply for them and and work through all the paperwork and all of that then

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I sure as heck. I'm not going to not do that at this stage

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Um, but boy could I have ever used it 10 years ago a lot more than I'd need it today

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Yeah, and aren't these like these are old aren't they?

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um So the the the payouts are quite delayed. I think yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah

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Like this is for like a long time ago So like they they they come in and then the accounting department regards them

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And then they put them in a bucket put them in a bucket. Yeah, uh, anyway

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There is one small thing that watermark was actually not supposed to be on TechLinked

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It's only applicable to LTT Our other channels are actually not affected

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So if you've seen the watermark on tech link to ShortCircuit that should no longer be the case starting next week

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I don't know why uh, I don't know why ShortCircuit wouldn't count. I'll have to I'll have to talk to

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I'll have to talk to them about that because I know that um, I know that news was not

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Uh, was not covered. So I think that's why TechLinked is is no good

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There's certain there's certain classifications of content that they they don't fund

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There's also like it. I'm sure honestly This is probably a problem in like basically every country because any system like this is going to get horrifically abused by somebody

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And then you're going to have to lock it down like crazy And then it becomes harder to utilize for the people that need it most. I understand this is a cycle

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Um, but I have found like even with with a lot of Canadian task credits

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It takes so much work. Are you talking shred right now? Yeah. Yeah, it takes so much work

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Just to get the credit that it's often not worth doing the work to get the credit

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Because it would be better to just Do your job

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Because it's like you you would lose so much productivity trying to get the credit for the productivity that you might as well

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Just do more. Yeah, that's um, that's it's it's surprising how many folks we've talked to that literally will hire someone

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Whose entire full-time job is to extract shred credits or cavco credits or whatever the case may be

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I know a small to medium-sized gaming studio in vancouver that has two

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Full-time staff that their literal only job is to capture shred credits

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Which is like I feel like if this is the case

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We've screwed up at some point

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Because that should not like and in my opinion in a well-functioning society that should not be a role that exists anywhere because that is

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purely just a waste of people

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in my opinion And like I get apparently to them like talking to them both of those people pay for themselves and more by capturing these credits so like

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Nice but Damn

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Uh, we also apply for um, it's sred for or sr. Andy d

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I think is what it is for people that are wondering what how we're saying shred everyone calls it shred up here

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But I think it's sred. Hmm. Uh, we also apply for provincial credits

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So you'll find those on our website Linus media group com uh from creative bc

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Yeah, want to hear a fun fact Yes

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Did you know that the checks that we get like our tax credits

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Even though it's a deduction theoretically like in principle of the tax that we paid

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It actually counts as income and we pay and we pay income tax on it

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Yes, fox enzi the tax cuts are taxable

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I just I just wish

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I just wish we did more with it You know we did more with it. Yeah, what do you mean?

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You know, I wish we weren't like going tremendously into debt and stuff like that us the country. Oh, yeah

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Well, I didn't know. No, no, no, no, no. I was like no, we're doing okay. No, not. Yeah, we got this

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Company's doing all right. Everything's under control. We're just

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Ah Dan, um We're gonna have to make some cuts though. Oh my goodness

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Normally I do crossfades, but I can switch it to cuts if you prefer. I like it. I like that and that my friends

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Is why he's not going anywhere He's sharp. He's quick like that

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Uh, no, it's just like we do video editing get it

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It's funny joke I did I I looked recently into some of the

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There you go. Nice I looked recently into some of the taxes in bc. You talked about this recently as well

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um, and you know BC is known as a fraud haven of north america. Um, so there's definitely some of that going on

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Um, but there is a lot of tax money flowing through bc

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And I just I understand that you know, some of the provincial money goes to help other provinces and stuff like this

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Yeah, I think bc is a have province, right? We we pay into the have-nots if I recall correctly

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Yeah, um, but it's just at the same time. It's like darn man

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I don't know I don't this whole like every company every country. Sorry running more and more down into deficits harder and harder and harder all the time

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like it's uh There's that old like, uh, what is it great great? I don't remember the quote exactly but great men plant

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The seeds of trees that they will never sit in the shade of or whatever. We're doing like the

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Hard opposite of that. Mm-hmm. We're like, uh digging a deeper hole that we won't have to sit in

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Yeah, the problem is that the the the time of reckoning it seems to be sort of creeping up on us

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It's slowly constantly pushed back and made worse all the time and then eventually we'll hit a wall where we can't push back anymore

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And we're just screwed Then I just don't love it

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That's my old complaint, but whatever we can we can do we can move on. Is there a good topic?

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AI therapists or just users going killing spree?

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Maybe we talk about that next okay. No, hold on that sounds way better. Hold on. There was a disc

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Good news wancho There was a discussion question for this one. It was does the canadian propaganda

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Thing change anything the answer is no we've been applying for and receiving various provincial and federal tax credits for I think

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Eight or nine years now. So if it didn't bother you before then it shouldn't bother you now

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and um, we are We are we are we are grateful for the

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flexibility That we were able to find

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With the people that we've worked with um at cavco and at creative bc because a lot of these credits

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Really were set up for traditional media like one of the big challenges that we ran into was they were like well

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You have to apply on a season by season basis of your show

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So what's it and we're like, okay? Well, what's the season?

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And they allowed us to call a year a season

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Okay, even even though like within that season, right like the

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There's not this type of serialization that you would normally expect for a season of a tv show

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And and that's not that's not their fault It's just rules that were made for a very different time and these things are government moves slow

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And so these things took a long time to adapt so we appreciate the the the things that they were able to do to help us

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get things moving along and

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Hopefully they don't run out of money Yeah

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Yeah Good luck everyone

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Yeah, I um, I don't know man. I have such a complicated relationship with taxes

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As you can imagine I pay a lot of them

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Yeah, which nice, which I consider a privilege. Good job. Yeah

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Heck yeah No, seriously though, sometimes I feel that way like we we had someone we had someone on the team recently who was quite

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Badly injured actually. Oh, I mean he was on camera. Okay, uh, david

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You guys probably saw him in alamades. Uh AMD ultimate tech upgrade with a big old cast on his ARM

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I'm not going to give you too many of the gruesome details, but I'll say it involved the great canadian game of hockey

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and Going into the boards real hard

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Was not I am personally very happy with my tax money going towards fixing stuff like that

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And and and you know personally all good with it. I I

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david told me the gruesome details of of of set pins and

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and surgeries and and and all that kind of stuff and and I I could almost I could almost hear the canadian national anthem

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You know in in the background right knowing that he didn't pay

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A penny for that fantastic. I shouldn't say didn't pay a penny because obviously we pay for it. We pay for it with our taxes

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However, however And and like he was in and out quick which we do have a triage system where sometimes

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Yeah, people will wait a really really really long time and sometimes that works out real bad

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But there was a level of urgency with his injury

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And he was in surgery. I think within like five days or something like that most of my personal ones have been

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Totally fine in regards to wait times. I know some stories where it's been really bad

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But most of my personal ones have been fine However, I can't deny that when I see like egregious waste

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I don't like it. Yeah, like I don't like I don't like talking to a contractor, right?

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And talking about the options for okay. Okay. Here's a perfect example. Remember when we built

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The original tenant improvement here in unit 102, right?

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So the the bottom and top floor and remember how we had the the top was just all boxed in and I had this

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Genius idea of putting Windows on it so you could see out into the studio space just to kind of make it

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I don't know a little less oppressive didn't work. It's still oppressive whatever

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Um, turns out Windows to an indoor space don't really do that much. I don't know. Do you think they're better than nothing?

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I think it helped. Okay. Sure. Fine. Whatever. I for sure think it helped The point is that when we were talking about the Windows to put into this interior wall

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Uh, I was like, oh, well, yeah, we'll just throw some Windows in there. They're like just to stick on this for a second

408
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:36,040
I think the gap between like really bad and like not great is actually really important

409
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,560
Fair enough. Like I feel like that was like going from 15 to 30 FPS. Okay fair enough. Yeah

410
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,280
So so anyway, I was like, hey, I want to put some Windows in here. That should be no problem, right?

411
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:52,920
So the contractors come back to me they go, oh, well, they need to be fire rated and they need they need this

412
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:59,560
And they need that and so you need the you need these ones with the with the fire wire inside the inside the glass

413
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,560
So they like, okay. Well, how much do those cost and they're like

414
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,000
A lot more and I'm like, okay fine. Okay. Well

415
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,480
I really The whole point was for this to feel less oppressive. Can we not have

416
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,640
Can we not have wires on the window? And they're like, oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, we got yeah

417
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,120
We got clear fire glass that doesn't have the wires in it

418
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:30,440
How much you want to pay? I'm like, well, what do you mean? They're like, well, you know how the fire glass was way more expensive than the regular glass?

419
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:37,960
Well There's a lot more expensive than that and I go and they tell me the price I forget how much it was but it was like

420
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,760
obscene, right? And I was like

421
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,880
Who's who's using this? I'm like, they're like nobody except like government buildings

422
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,960
And I hear that and I'm just like, okay

423
00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:00,280
By the time all is said and done before I've even bought anything and paid sales tax, right

424
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,280
My income tax rate is over 50 percent

425
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,800
So that you Can have Windows that do not have wires in them

426
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:17,320
but I have to settle for Windows with wires in them. So are there things that I find

427
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,880
frustrating absolutely

428
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:28,680
But david's ARM Happy david's ARM is in one piece or not in one piece. It's in the right

429
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,120
It's in the correct number of pieces correct orientation and number of pieces

430
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:37,480
Yeah, and and so and so I don't know man. It's I one piece would suck. Yeah. Yeah, that wouldn't be good

431
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,120
yeah Yeah quality anime I've heard but in terms of like

432
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,040
wrist bones, maybe maybe not the best. Yeah

433
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,040
so Dude, I don't know. I just I it's so

434
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,400
It's so complicated and and I and I really get into trouble when it gets into like the arts

435
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,600
Because you know, I don't pretend to know if

436
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,760
You know that that statue, you know, or whatever is worth a million dollars

437
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:13,000
What I do know is that if there's a single textbook out of date in a public school that I probably wouldn't have

438
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,800
That statue but then the flip side is, you know, vancouver

439
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:24,280
Generates a lot of revenue as a tourist destination one of the most beautiful cities in the world and it really is

440
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:33,320
It really is beautiful here six months out of the year Um, and so, you know, do those installations contribute to that like all the funky whales from the 2010 olympics

441
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,280
Yeah, it's hard to value eight But I do notice when they're absent

442
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,600
Yeah, if that makes sense. Yeah, like you you kind of want these things

443
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,360
Like looking at one of them individually is like, I don't know. I don't I can't

444
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:53,320
Uh, I have no idea what this is worth to me But I know that the absence of the absence of them

445
00:43:53,880 --> 00:44:00,040
Makes them seem a lot more valuable if that makes sense. Yeah, not not having art not having interesting things around the city

446
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,960
um Makes it seem like a pass through town

447
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,080
Instead of somewhere that people want to be

448
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,480
Yeah, Seth Jones says line. It shouldn't be in government. I

449
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,640
I I just I don't think I have the I don't think I have the stomach for it like there's

450
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,840
I had to go to my first city council meeting not that long ago

451
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:33,160
it's dry, man I There's there's one particular sorry counselor that like really stood out. I'm I'm gonna like figure out how to vote in a municipal

452
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:38,920
election next time around so I can vote for her or something because she was awesome, but um

453
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:43,720
Yeah, I don't think I have the temperament for it. I don't think I have the patience

454
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,920
Wow, I mean you could have put up a bit of a fight

455
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,840
Not for that level of governance. That would have been nice for you to I think you'd do well higher up actually

456
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,680
But at that level of governance, I think you'd have a problem I don't think you'd have an issue climbing that form of ladder

457
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,960
But when you get up to like elbow gate level stuff, I think you'd do well

458
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:08,520
Because then it becomes like showmanship. Yeah, then you're just like supposed to be like uh like an inspirational speaker

459
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:14,680
Figurehead. Yeah, essentially. I think my problem there is I wouldn't be good enough at the dick sucking

460
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,320
Um that you have to do with other heads of state

461
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,760
Like the the way around that I think you could

462
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:27,640
I think if you like do it Well enough you might be able to get around that. I don't think so

463
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,800
I don't think so like I like I I don't I don't suffer fools

464
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:37,720
I don't follow. I don't follow it enough I don't follow Canadian stuff enough like like like if I ended up in one of those

465
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:43,560
One of those like silly performative like White House sit-downs or something like Zelensky

466
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,040
I don't think I could hold my tongue

467
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,920
Yeah, yeah, I just don't think I could do it. Yeah. Yeah, so I that might be okay. Well

468
00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,120
Fair enough Yeah, so so stife

469
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,800
2002 here says diplomacy is the art of telling your opponent to go to hell in a way that makes them look forward to the trip

470
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,920
And that's that's something I'm not good at. I'm I'm too blunt. I

471
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,040
I I just I speak my mind and

472
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,240
It's not always nice Like very polky and

473
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,440
Very a what now? Polk. Polk. Yeah

474
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:29,880
American president quality speakers Not not a quality speaker. He just uh, he's a little aggro

475
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:36,120
little aggro Linus, you're what they call a liability. Yeah. Yeah

476
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,880
Um All right, why don't we uh, why don't we jump into uh, whatever we're supposed to be doing Dan?

477
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,320
We've done three topics. I think we're a little behind on your little cards there

478
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:55,480
Oh, I uh, I increased it because I didn't have a curated but I have one curated if you want to read that now

479
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,960
Oh, uh, sure. Should we do that? We can do we can do whatever you want. Okay. Well, what's what's the merge message?

480
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,920
Oh, yeah, right, right, right, right, right? Uh, so if you guys are looking to interact with the show

481
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:12,280
We don't do twitch bits or super chats We do merge messages because the way that we see it

482
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,000
You should if you're gonna throw money at your screen, you should get quality merchandise in return

483
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:22,920
And boy, do we ever have an exciting thing for you to check out this week

484
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:28,440
Do you guys remember those fun like uv reactive pc components from the 2000s?

485
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:36,040
well We brought that energy right into a new collection of items that are available now on lttstore.com

486
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,640
Introducing the land collection. Uh, it's time for luke and i to put on our wares

487
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:50,200
Oh Yeah, buddy. Okay. That's a little small one sec. I did not think too size this before we started the

488
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:56,840
Um, the mind fit perfectly. What happened? Well, maybe you checked it before the show because you're just a smart guy

489
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:05,320
I feel like somebody Just has measured my head. That definitely didn't happen. Dude. I'm so flipping excited about these. We've had these in

490
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,120
production for so flipping long

491
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Oh, yeah

492
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:20,360
If you ever saw the old school, I shouldn't say old school, but the uh, the wan hoodie

493
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,200
It's pretty old school. I guess it is now. No, no, this isn't based on the old one

494
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,800
That's based on the newer one if you ever saw the wan hoodie and you were like, you know, what'd be cooler

495
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,600
If that was more land

496
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:41,160
um This is the hoodie for you. Check this out. This is a patch you guys by the way on the hood

497
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,400
And If you ever thought hey

498
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,080
Um, it would be way better if you know

499
00:48:53,720 --> 00:49:02,120
The wan hoodie or you know, if there was like a version of it that was actually uv reactive like those old motherboards

500
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,160
Boy, do we ever have a treat for you Dan

501
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,680
Go for it. Well, you got to do that first Here we go

502
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,800
Whoa

503
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,800
Oh man

504
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:28,760
I think you hit the switch too. I heard it go. Nice. There you go. There we go. Look at that, dude

505
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,800
Is it Yeah, there you go. Oh the hood the inside of the whoa

506
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,600
That's actually that's wild. Do me the patch on the head. Which side is it? There we go

507
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,400
And of course our table is glowing because it's glow circuit from d brand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

508
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,200
Cool The hood is wild

509
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,600
So flipping cool. Um, there's one other piece. Do you want to show them the bag?

510
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,920
So this is the lan belt bag

511
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,880
It's got uv reactive trims and an LTT patch a couple organizing pockets inside

512
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:17,160
And it was made with a tough ripstop fabric to prevent tears and of course reliable ykk zips throughout

513
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:24,840
The hat is the same fit as our classic LTT hat and the lan hoodie, of course has uv reactive trims and LTT patch on the hood

514
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,800
Eight different pockets and is based on the wan hoodie of years past

515
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,640
They are all available at LMG.gg slash

516
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:39,400
when Uh, oh my notes say also, can you please show off the sick photos?

517
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,840
You can go ahead and turn that back on Dan one thing i was going to say as well is that that

518
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,720
shirt that we had the british horse shirt that had like the

519
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:52,360
Slightly rubbery kind of texture on it. I think a lot of not maybe all of it. Maybe all of it actually

520
00:50:52,760 --> 00:51:01,320
Yeah, this is just like printed. No Well, it is it's green printed. Okay, but it's um, it's like a like a thicker kind of rubberized

521
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,360
It's a very noticeable texture. It's not just uh

522
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,760
No, sometimes on a shirt like this like I can't really feel the printing. This is so awesome

523
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:15,480
Heck yeah, man. I think our team actually might have too much fun with these photo shoots

524
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,840
That is so cool. Yep, nicole Thomas

525
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,120
Love it

526
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,520
The glasses are sick. Oh, that's awesome suits it

527
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,920
You love to see it. Okay, this is great Oh

528
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,640
Man, I've been so excited to launch these

529
00:51:54,280 --> 00:52:00,200
Super cool, uh, and and there's a reason that we've waited so

530
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,680
Flipping long To launch this collection. We're finally ready to announce

531
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,400
Whale land is coming back. Let's go

532
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:19,880
Go to whale land.com We are thrilled to announce the long-awaited return of whale land with our first event happening on september 27th and 28th

533
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,320
2025 that's right. It is in just two

534
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,200
months tickets go on sale august 5th at 12 p.m

535
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:36,440
Pacific time at whale land.com BYOC tickets are 120 canadian dollars and will include a lanyard

536
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,880
Enamel pin and a key chain that is unique to this event sporting our beloved whale in

537
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:49,480
An astronaut suit. Do you have a picture? Uh, I hope so. Yep. Here it is. Haha. That looks great. It's so cute

538
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,640
Look how cute he is My goodness. Uh, so yes our first one is um

539
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Is is space themed Uh, where do I find the blooded tickets?

540
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,200
Oh, yeah, okay. No, that's it. We've just got the uh, we've just got the whale

541
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,960
Uh picture for now, but you guys can check out the rest of it once the once everything else is up there

542
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,640
um For those looking to level up the experience as usual

543
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:24,280
We are offering a limited number of whale vip tickets for 5000 canadian dollars

544
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,040
VIPs will receive a custom built gaming PC

545
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,600
A sleek commuter backpack a transparent LTT screwdriver

546
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:39,720
Every item from the LTT land collection and an exclusive studio and Labs tour

547
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:47,160
Head to whale land.com for more info. We recommend creating your account ahead of time so that you are ready the moment that tickets drop

548
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:56,120
I'm so excited for whale land. It's finally flipping time, dude. Yeah, it'd be cool. It's finally time. Very cool. Let's go

549
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:04,360
All right, Dan. What are we supposed to be doing right now? I actually have some rich message. I never explained merch messages

550
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,480
Right, so pick something up on the store maybe from the land collection

551
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,920
And you will be prompted with a box in the cart to leave a merch message. It will go to producer Dan

552
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,520
Who will respond to it or curate it or?

553
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,920
um forward it or do something and uh apparently nathaniel d was uh curated

554
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,560
So do you want to do in nathaniels or do you want to do a different one? Uh, sure. Why don't we start with his?

555
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:33,160
Yeah, this design is so dang cool. Is it a limited time? Can I get the hoodie when I can afford it lull?

556
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,280
Oh, um

557
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,600
It it depends Like so many items on our store

558
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,160
Uh, we would love for it to be an ongoing item

559
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,240
but if Past the initial burst of sales it just kind of

560
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,560
Trickles down into nothing which happens then we might not reorder it

561
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,440
Ssssssss So yeah, supply and end

562
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,200
It's a thing

563
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,160
Cool good chat. And how about one more? Sure, yeah, hit me again

564
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:17,640
With Windows 10 reaching end of life, are we better off buying sort of uh

565
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,440
Refurbished business grade equipment versus new consumer grade equipment

566
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,540
ooh Yeah, that's tough. That does change the calculus a little bit.

567
00:55:27,540 --> 00:55:30,900
With that said, I haven't seen too much hardware

568
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:36,720
that you can't force install Windows 11 on, even if it's not officially supported.

569
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:41,420
So I would definitely dig around and figure out

570
00:55:41,420 --> 00:55:47,560
what can or can't be worked around, which loopholes with respect to TPMs or whatever else

571
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,320
Microsoft has not managed to patch yet.

572
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:55,560
My understanding is it definitely is getting

573
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:02,240
a little bit more challenging. And I gotta say, unless you're on an extremely tight budget,

574
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:06,200
there's not too many great reasons to pick up something older

575
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,480
than like a Ryzen 3000. Ryzen one and 2000 were kind of rough.

576
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,120
And I think Ryzen 3000 is where you do get

577
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,200
proper TPM support for Windows 11, right?

578
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:23,440
Sounds about right. I'm not sure. I'm gonna double check, but it don't seem to be affected

579
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:29,360
and zero problems using 11. Yeah, I believe Ryzen 3000 is all good.

580
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,080
Yeah, that's the, yeah, yeah.

581
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,680
I think it's Pankrats that's live in, right? I think so. I can't remember people's handles.

582
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,320
Yes. Yeah, Pankrats is in the chat. He says that, yeah, it's a Ryzen 3000.

583
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,760
And you can, man, you can pick up like here, let's go to eBay.

584
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,000
As long as it's not a G processor. Yeah, I read that they are generally considered

585
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,080
as compatible and I was like, that's a weird sentence.

586
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,120
So he's saying as long as it's not a G processor.

587
00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:00,120
So you can pick up a 3600X for $54, $53.80.

588
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,440
This is like in like bulk. This isn't just like, you know, a guy has one.

589
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:13,080
They've sold 273 of them. So we're talking about a $50 CPU

590
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,200
unless you're on an extremely tight budget, which you might be. And that's totally fine.

591
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:22,200
I'd say just get Ryzen 3000 or newer

592
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,040
and then, you know, pick up a cheap board.

593
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,160
Yeah. All right. What do you want to talk about next?

594
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,440
There's so much today actually. I forgot about a couple of topics here

595
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,880
that I'd put in with the highlighting. The full plan announcement?

596
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,000
Or do you want to jump up and do both the highlighting things and then the full plan announcement?

597
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:46,760
Yeah, sure. We can do whatever. I think it's one or the other. We could talk about pornographic studios suing META too.

598
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:52,840
We could. That'd be interesting. Yeah. META faces yet another copyright infringement lawsuit

599
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,480
over AI training. Correct. Several adult film studios

600
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,320
allege that META has been, and this is amazing,

601
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,240
has been continually torrenting

602
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,320
and not just torrenting, but reseeding.

603
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,040
Their copyrighted smut since 2018

604
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:17,840
impacting the producer's ability to compete in the market for their own content.

605
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:23,000
Actually, wild. The allegation, and this is worth reading, okay?

606
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,040
Because the original article here is from TorrentFreak.

607
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:31,360
So you guys are going to want to check it out, but the actual allegation from Strike Three Holdings

608
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:36,360
is that META reseeded in order to get higher priority

609
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:43,520
of course for their downloads so that they could download pornography faster

610
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,080
onto their corporate servers.

611
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:52,600
What is going on right now? That kind of does make sense to me

612
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,040
given how Facebook started.

613
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,880
This sounds like a reasonable... What, it was like a book or whatever?

614
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,000
So basically, he was like raiding girls around campus.

615
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,160
Like they're, yeah.

616
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:12,120
Zuckerberg is not a good dude. I know he like cleaned up his appearance lately.

617
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,880
He's a great lizard though. Yeah, but like, you know,

618
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,560
you gotta remember where this came from. You gotta understand like the whole like,

619
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,360
so why do people give you all their personal data? And he's like, because they're idiots

620
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,880
or whatever he said. I don't remember exactly what he said. Allegedly, allegedly.

621
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,360
Allegedly. Like it just, you know.

622
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,160
Anyway, how hilarious would it be

623
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,840
if it took a pornographic network

624
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,680
to finally do some damage to the companies

625
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:51,680
that are engaging in this kind of mass piracy with,

626
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:57,640
and this is amazing. With at least 2,396 movies at stake,

627
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Tornfreak says the potential damages

628
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:10,920
So like a third of a billion dollars, which yeah, Fermetta is probably, you know,

629
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,800
something they could afford to pay, but that's definitely something they would notice.

630
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,800
That's not just like, oh you, that's like, sorry, sorry.

631
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:28,280
Oh yeah. I'm just saying, you know, like with the hand mark.

632
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,760
Maybe they'd be, you know, maybe that works for them.

633
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,320
I mean, maybe they're clearly into it. Yeah. You could be the naughty billionaire.

634
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:43,920
They clearly watch a lot. Anyway, this is freaking amazing.

635
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,920
So apparently Strike 3 has their proprietary in-house

636
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,880
tracking software to figure out who is downloading,

637
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,880
who is torrenting their productions called VXN Scan.

638
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:06,040
And Facebook only showed up, or Medi, excuse me,

639
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:13,720
only showed up on their radar because of the company that got nailed,

640
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,440
pun intended, for downloading pirated books.

641
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,640
Yeah, so they went looking for it. And they were like, hmm, these IP blocks

642
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,080
and also these ones are suspicious. So they have a whole bunch of them

643
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,240
that they think they have pretty much,

644
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,720
they have met a dead to rights that it was them.

645
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:39,200
And then they have a bunch of other ones that they suspect was also meta.

646
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,680
Our discussion question is, why does meta need so many Linux ISOs?

647
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,680
But I think pornography is such an obvious market

648
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:57,240
for AI-generated content, which again,

649
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,160
I feel like, I almost feel like I would need to get

650
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,200
like a panel of people to discuss with

651
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,520
before I could have any kind of take on it because I can see this any number of ways.

652
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,080
I think I have a take, okay.

653
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,820
Training censorship models. Oh, that's one.

654
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,320
I didn't even think of that. So to be clear, when I say- There's been a few people in your

655
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:25,080
footballing chat saying this thing. Oh yeah, yeah. So when I was saying, okay, I didn't mean what they're gonna use it for, yes, yes,

656
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:30,840
that is definitely something they could use it for. But I've seen some very interesting arguments

657
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:36,800
floating around about this. Like, oh, well, what if we could, you know, not,

658
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,200
what if this entire industry is exploitative

659
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,200
and what if we could just not have human performers anymore?

660
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,520
Would that be better? But then hold on a second.

661
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,840
You can't just take the work

662
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:57,120
because I think I've been pretty clear in the past that sex work has literally, it has work right in it is work.

663
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,960
You can't just take the work of people

664
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:08,160
and then just like replace them. Like our, if someone were to choose to work in this industry,

665
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:14,400
would they feel better off? If it was all just AI generated?

666
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,640
Possibly, very probably maybe not.

667
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,960
I don't know, I've heard it's a big problem for only fans models already.

668
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,880
That there's just like AI generated stuff and it's hard to compete with.

669
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,280
Yeah, I don't know if I would say it's a big problem, but I've heard it's a problem.

670
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,680
And I think it's a problem that is, you know, progressing

671
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:39,280
and could become a big problem, especially as that is more and more made okay,

672
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,440
if that makes sense. I don't know.

673
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:50,520
Again, though, like it's very difficult for me to take a clear, as not someone who works in the industry,

674
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,000
that you know, yet.

675
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:02,320
It's hard for me to take a clear position on this, but it seems, what I can say is that it is very apparent

676
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,120
that nothing that meta is doing is in consultation

677
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,640
with sex workers and performers and studios

678
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:17,360
and anyone that's involved in the industry and therefore cannot possibly, unless by sheer chance,

679
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,640
be, you know, aligned with their interests.

680
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,040
That much, I think I can say at this time.

681
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,080
Yes, I know we had an only fans at one point, but it's

682
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:36,960
complicated. I think it's arguable to say that you have made money

683
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,760
at least some amount off of showing skin.

684
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,480
No. I think it is. We donated all the proceeds.

685
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:49,160
But the firetruck video. Oh, come on.

686
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:53,360
I mean, people wouldn't watch that. I mean, it was a video from a long time ago where you're in your boxers in your yard.

687
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:59,480
Yeah, but that wasn't, it wasn't the... I think it's arguable to say that an amount of profit

688
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,120
has potentially shown up. You know, someone might have rewatched,

689
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,880
someone might have gone back to that part of the video and rewatched it. I mean, I can prove they didn't.

690
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,520
You want me to prove they didn't? Cause I can. I can do it right now. You can't prove that no one did.

691
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:17,160
I can, I can prove that. You cannot prove that no one did. I can prove that there was not a very substantial

692
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,040
amount of people, but I'm saying that some amount, even a cent.

693
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,800
I mean, there could have been anything in that frame. And I think people would have watched it the same.

694
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,640
You can't, you can't prove. All I'm saying is...

695
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,960
I can't prove we didn't make a cent, but you can't prove we did.

696
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,680
And so I think the burden of proof is actually on the person making the claim.

697
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,440
See, I'm not making any claim. You're the one making a claim.

698
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,000
I think I'm right. Yeah, so then the burden of proof is on you.

699
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,880
I can think I'm right and not be able to prove that I'm right. You can, but then you're basically everything

700
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,520
that's wrong with the world. That's a ridiculous statement and you know it.

701
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,880
That's insane.

702
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,400
I mean, we do have a whole lot of problems. Welcome to science.

703
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,640
We do have a whole lot of problems with people just thinking they're right and not worrying

704
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:15,120
too much about evidence. What I'm saying is the evidence is actually like

705
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,600
so obviously true that it's crazy to think otherwise.

706
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,840
There is absolutely unquestionably at least one person

707
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,480
that went back in a video and rewatched it because he didn't have your shirt off or something

708
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,800
that has like guaranteed for sure anyone

709
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,480
with an amount of logic, looking at the amount of views that these videos have

710
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,400
has definitely happened. Can I conclusively prove it?

711
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:43,160
No, but I think your argument of like things being wrong with the world is actually more correct

712
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,960
in the other direction. Because this is so obviously true

713
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:52,760
that dismissing it is ridiculous and is stopping potential understanding.

714
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,600
So just saying.

715
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:57,760
I can't find the video.

716
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,720
They took it down for sexual content. People are saying do a poll.

717
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,480
People would lie on the poll.

718
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,840
But I also bet you that there's at least one person

719
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,960
watching right now that has done it. If Oxena Box says that I have,

720
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,800
P-Ball says your proof is here. There's no way. Luca says me.

721
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,600
They would say that. Get it?

722
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,240
Yeah. They would say that. I got it. In a poll.

723
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,240
I got it. Touch the bell. There we go.

724
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,400
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

725
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,600
GigaMonster says I'll do it right now.

726
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:46,120
Oh, hamburgers are not signed in. I get signed out so much from my stuff.

727
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:47,280
I hate it.

728
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,760
Drives me absolutely crazy.

729
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,400
Either way, either way,

730
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,120
it was not presented in a sexual context.

731
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,120
There's a big difference between having exposed skin

732
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,560
and it being sexual here. Yeah. That's fair and true.

733
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,840
I have it here. So for me to say that I have never engaged in

734
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,240
any kind of sex work. The firefighter one absolutely was.

735
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,960
I mean. Absolutely was.

736
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,800
Okay, so I do have a bit of a problem here.

737
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:36,120
There is a slight bump in the retention graph,

738
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,520
but it's not the biggest one. Does that sound right?

739
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:45,560
So hold on. And like I'm holding guns.

740
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,200
Like it's, there's a lot more going on here.

741
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,000
Yeah, you got a pair of guns. That's for sure.

742
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,440
I don't know if I've ever heard the boys referred to as guns.

743
01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:02,240
Never, never, never. Cannonballs maybe.

744
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,480
Yeah. But guns is a bit weird. Guns not so much.

745
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:10,760
They're more like magazines. Oh, you can't do the pull like that, Dan.

746
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,360
I just give them to people what they want.

747
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,520
You guys are insufferable sometimes.

748
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,920
I don't know why we do this.

749
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,760
Guns refers to biceps, by the way. Yes, I know.

750
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,120
Thank you. Your arms. Thank you, Dan. That's very helpful.

751
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,160
I think other people thought you were talking about other things.

752
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:36,240
Yeah, I was. I was pretending. I thought that's what you were talking about.

753
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,640
There's much smaller things than guns. Eventually, irony goes in a circle.

754
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,920
Extreme overclocking. Host of Folding at Homestats,

755
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:54,640
apparently is struggling financially. The source here is the extreme overclocking news

756
01:09:54,640 --> 01:10:00,960
and updates. The latest update on which is actually from July 30th.

757
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:06,960
Oh, wow. You guys are something else. As of today, there's been a total of $2,800 donated.

758
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,360
Thank you for stepping up.

759
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:16,280
Oh, wow. That's absolutely incredible. So Folding stats are saved.

760
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,600
I mostly remember using extreme overclocking for the forums back in the day.

761
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:25,360
They're not super active and they used to have reviews as well.

762
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,640
It's been a little while.

763
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:34,120
Where's the most recent? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's been a little while

764
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,920
since they've done a ton of reviews or anything like that.

765
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:42,840
But from reading through the admins

766
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:47,160
sort of talk through how the sites evolved over time,

767
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,920
Folding at Homestats is really what has kept the lights on

768
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,760
in terms of driving traffic to the site and also been the thing that people have cared about

769
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,600
more than anything else. With that said, if the forums ever did go down,

770
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,080
so this is one of the things that he was talking about,

771
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:07,600
how if Folding at Home and the ad revenue

772
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,680
that comes from that doesn't make this thing self-sufficient,

773
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:18,640
I really do think it's a shame that all of that history in the forum is going to be lost.

774
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,920
The loss of extreme- But it shouldn't just land on the shoulders of one person. No, it really shouldn't.

775
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,400
The loss of extreme systems was a huge one

776
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:30,000
for just the archive of overclocking,

777
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,520
lore and knowledge and water cooling knowledge from back in the day.

778
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,120
We tried to help get that going, unfortunately.

779
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:42,600
I think it came down to corruption issues, right? Like database corruption.

780
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:49,520
Are we still working on stuff there? Oh, okay. The last update I got was that we weren't sure,

781
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,960
necessarily, if it could be restored. Anyway, extreme overclocking.

782
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,320
I don't think that's the last update you got. Is it? Yeah, I don't think so.

783
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,760
Okay, either way, apparently we're still working on trying to get extreme systems back.

784
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,120
I'm trying to find the most recent update. Oh, okay.

785
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,640
Anyway, extreme overclocking also has a wealth

786
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,080
of old-school overclocking knowledge and history, really.

787
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,800
And every time another forum goes down, we lose another reference point.

788
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:19,520
Like I used to refer back to threads I remembered seeing or projects I remembered seeing

789
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,040
from way back in the day on these sites in the early days of LTT.

790
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:27,880
And now you go looking for that stuff. And it's just, a lot of it is simply not there anymore.

791
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,600
So extremesystems.org is back online. The database is running.

792
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,800
The PHP is running. All of the data is intact since 2002.

793
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,120
All the members are intact. Most of the attachments are intact.

794
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,160
All the links are intact. Search engines are still forwarding.

795
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:45,480
Apparently 2,000 plus users were online at one point in time.

796
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,040
It's on V-bolts in version five.

797
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,640
But may have some mixes between four and five still.

798
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:59,620
Registration is currently closed. Server SSL cert is not working.

799
01:13:00,620 --> 01:13:05,180
Search log.sql is damaged. PHP cleanup is still happening.

800
01:13:05,180 --> 01:13:09,900
Complete removal of registration process, spam account cleanup, other things.

801
01:13:09,900 --> 01:13:13,100
He wants to redo the operating system and server files.

802
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:16,420
There's still like lots of work happening, but. Oh, cool, okay.

803
01:13:16,420 --> 01:13:17,540
Did you send that to me?

804
01:13:19,580 --> 01:13:23,060
Like am I copied on that? I don't think I forwarded you on that message.

805
01:13:23,060 --> 01:13:27,940
Oh, okay. But. Oh, so that's why I don't know what's going on.

806
01:13:27,940 --> 01:13:32,260
Okay, I'll go find the proof. Hold on. I'll waste some more time.

807
01:13:32,260 --> 01:13:35,140
No problem. Sheesh.

808
01:13:36,140 --> 01:13:40,460
I really don't think you ever sent me that, Luke. I probably didn't send you that specifically.

809
01:13:47,220 --> 01:13:54,340
All right, let's see. The last update I have is from...

810
01:14:01,220 --> 01:14:05,620
Oh, wow. That was a very long time ago. Yeah, I just basically have not.

811
01:14:05,620 --> 01:14:09,380
I didn't send it to you on email. I'm pretty sure I sent you a screenshot or something.

812
01:14:09,380 --> 01:14:13,140
I'm just like, look, this is still happening. That might be a task for another time.

813
01:14:13,140 --> 01:14:16,140
Are you seriously scrolling through your entire team's history with me?

814
01:14:16,140 --> 01:14:19,860
Well, I tried to do a search for a word, but I don't remember.

815
01:14:21,420 --> 01:14:23,620
Why don't I do another topic in the meantime?

816
01:14:26,140 --> 01:14:30,860
Oh, yeah. Oh, I can do sponsors. Sure, let's get that done.

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850
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:08,540
All right, sir, you're gonna have to tune back into the show at some point here.

851
01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:12,500
I can. All this is really reminding me of is how bad Teams is.

852
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:16,380
Because if I go look at the attachments that we've sent to each other, it says neither of us

853
01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:20,980
have sent any attachments since midway through 2024.

854
01:17:20,980 --> 01:17:24,180
It's just obviously incorrect. Yeah. Okay.

855
01:17:24,180 --> 01:17:27,700
Obviously. Oh my God. Okay, I will find it.

856
01:17:27,700 --> 01:17:31,340
I hate this stuff. I'll find it. That's fine. Oh my God, Luke.

857
01:17:31,340 --> 01:17:35,100
I don't care. No, I'm gonna do it over the weekend. I don't care. It drives me absolutely insane.

858
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:38,700
It doesn't matter. No, it does to me. Why? Because it does.

859
01:17:39,860 --> 01:17:44,100
How about we leave it here? Luke? Nope. You sent it, but I forgot.

860
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:47,460
Nope. Are you happy? Nope. Why?

861
01:17:47,460 --> 01:17:52,220
Because. Because that's what you said. I'm literally saying what you said. You gotta find a hill to die on at some point.

862
01:17:52,220 --> 01:17:55,420
I found mine. You could just die in a bed.

863
01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:58,660
Nope. Or a ditch. That sounds boring.

864
01:17:58,660 --> 01:18:02,020
Pick a ditch, Luke. Well, ditch is probably better,

865
01:18:02,020 --> 01:18:06,820
but it's still not a good thing. Ditches be crazy. You don't want to die on those.

866
01:18:06,820 --> 01:18:10,420
Does that count as a ding? I don't think so. I don't think so.

867
01:18:10,420 --> 01:18:14,460
That's just stupid. Yeah. I think it's close, but not quite.

868
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:21,620
Speaking of things that are stupid, spending this kind of time and resources

869
01:18:21,620 --> 01:18:25,220
streaming a badminton tournament. Yeah.

870
01:18:25,220 --> 01:18:28,220
Okay, I haven't seen this yet.

871
01:18:28,220 --> 01:18:33,620
I've seen some stuff. I saw some demo footage that Dan and Jake

872
01:18:33,620 --> 01:18:36,860
were putting together, trying various lenses.

873
01:18:36,860 --> 01:18:43,100
Oh, with some help from Thomas too. I don't want to forget anybody. And I bet Jim and Jonathan from Smash

874
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:46,740
were probably helping at some point. Tyler did stuff. I assume.

875
01:18:46,740 --> 01:18:52,540
So let's shout out everyone for kind of putting this together. But Smash Champs, the badminton club

876
01:18:52,540 --> 01:18:56,380
that I run in Surrey, is, I shouldn't say I run,

877
01:18:56,380 --> 01:19:00,140
that I, well, funded anyway. A lot of incredible people run it,

878
01:19:00,140 --> 01:19:04,940
but Smash Champs, the club that I started, I can say that, in Surrey,

879
01:19:04,940 --> 01:19:08,940
is having its grand opening tournament this weekend.

880
01:19:09,620 --> 01:19:14,140
Do we not mention that on our website?

881
01:19:16,860 --> 01:19:20,420
Oh, there it is. Yes, nice. Grand opening tournament. Look at it go.

882
01:19:20,420 --> 01:19:25,260
Whoa. There's prizes. This looks like the old NCIX banner art almost.

883
01:19:25,260 --> 01:19:29,780
You know what? They showed it to me. And I was like, I like.

884
01:19:29,780 --> 01:19:32,780
Did you get that vibe at all? Nope. I just like it.

885
01:19:32,780 --> 01:19:36,140
Sure. Yeah, you know what? I see what you're saying. It's cool.

886
01:19:36,140 --> 01:19:39,700
I like it. I see what you're saying. So yeah, grand opening tournament is this weekend.

887
01:19:39,700 --> 01:19:44,180
Let's flip and go. And one of the things that we have wanted for the club

888
01:19:44,180 --> 01:19:47,820
since we first spec'd it out, is per court.

889
01:19:47,820 --> 01:19:51,460
That's where the computer. Sorry. There's actually a lot of people involved

890
01:19:51,460 --> 01:19:55,460
with getting that going. Oh yeah, Pink Dress. He made the computer that's actually doing the streaming.

891
01:19:55,460 --> 01:19:58,800
Nice. Which is a lot of streams. So like. I've got a mock up.

892
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,660
Well, it's not a mock up. Screenshot from that computer that Pankrat's built.

893
01:20:02,660 --> 01:20:06,020
We'll show that. Give me a second. We'll get to that. We'll get into that in a sec.

894
01:20:06,020 --> 01:20:10,340
First, I want to say that it's been a goal since we first spec'd out the club

895
01:20:10,340 --> 01:20:15,380
that we wanted to have per court streams that you could tune into.

896
01:20:15,380 --> 01:20:21,900
And we want to eventually unlock a variety of different functionalities from it.

897
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:26,500
So obviously streaming tournaments is one of them. So you can just like text your friends or parents

898
01:20:26,500 --> 01:20:30,560
or you know, whatever. Hey, I'm playing on this court right now.

899
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,560
Here's the link. Just tune into this stream. That's pretty cool.

900
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,480
Another idea is like, if you're playing Ladder Night

901
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:42,520
or you're playing with your friends and you like made an epic shot or whatever you want to put together.

902
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:47,520
I think it's awesome. Montages. Then we want you to be able to like,

903
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:53,160
ideally how it would work is you'd have like an app and there'd be some kind of like per session

904
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,400
transaction of some sort. And you could like download your session.

905
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,180
Even just the value of being able to actually see yourself

906
01:21:00,180 --> 01:21:04,740
and how you play in a recording to be able to like get better.

907
01:21:04,740 --> 01:21:09,180
And to be clear, lots of people record their games on their own. They'll put like their phone on a little tripod

908
01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:14,420
and they'll leave it by the side of the court. We totally allow that. We're not going to be like, no, you know,

909
01:21:14,420 --> 01:21:18,140
this is like a theme park. No photography and then we sell you photography. Yeah, exactly.

910
01:21:18,140 --> 01:21:21,340
We're not going to be like that about it. But our, you know, our video quality,

911
01:21:21,340 --> 01:21:25,580
I hope will be better. So if you value that, then that's cool.

912
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:30,440
Another thing that's really cool for us training. And in the longer term, I'd love to be able to do,

913
01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:34,520
I've talked aspirationally about doing something to do with like scorekeeping or,

914
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,680
you know, if it ever happens, like line judgment,

915
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,880
some kind of like janky DIY Hawkeye would be, would be super cool.

916
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,000
Anyway, the first stepping stone to that though

917
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,720
was getting the flipping cameras in place. And it's taken us a while,

918
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,480
but with the grand opening tournament coming up,

919
01:21:55,740 --> 01:22:00,820
everyone kind of pulled together to make it happen. And Dan, do you want to, I haven't seen this yet.

920
01:22:00,820 --> 01:22:03,220
Do you want to, do you want to show us the machine?

921
01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:07,780
Whoa. This isn't live. That's a still photo. Yeah.

922
01:22:07,780 --> 01:22:11,500
But this is 14, a bunch of, yeah, 14 simultaneous.

923
01:22:11,500 --> 01:22:16,500
That's you and me and you and you and you and you and you

924
01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:22,780
and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and McGregor simultaneously.

925
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:27,760
It was, it was honestly, it was kind of cool to see.

926
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,920
I'm excited for these to all be live. We do, we do streaming from, I think you had done,

927
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,120
was it streaming or just video recording at a bad one to center in the past?

928
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:44,080
Streaming. Streaming. Okay. Yeah. But they didn't have very fast upload

929
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:47,200
and it was a real challenge. The quality was quite low

930
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,480
because I was limited to about one and a half megabit

931
01:22:50,540 --> 01:22:55,260
per court. We're, we're not Twitch partners. So we're still going to be capped a little bit.

932
01:22:55,260 --> 01:23:00,140
It'll be higher than that. I wonder, do we still know anyone at Twitch to just like,

933
01:23:00,140 --> 01:23:03,980
I don't anymore fast track these out. I don't think I know anyone there either.

934
01:23:03,980 --> 01:23:10,220
Everyone I knew was like a part of Twitch before the buyout. So they're, they're sitting on a beach somewhere at this point.

935
01:23:10,220 --> 01:23:15,180
Yeah. Kind of actually. Yeah. Most of them. Taking a screenshot. It's not paused.

936
01:23:15,180 --> 01:23:17,500
There's, there's stocks, you know, vested

937
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:22,640
and now they're Chalaxin and are not really there anymore.

938
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,920
So I'm just going to see, like, do I have a, do I have a, do I have a contact?

939
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:33,160
The, oh, we were unable to renew your Google workspace

940
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,720
subscription. Please update your payment information

941
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,080
or you will not be able to use Linus media group mail.

942
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,760
We should probably deal with that. That's interesting.

943
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,040
I didn't get that. I'm assuming someone will be forwarding that to me

944
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,400
or honestly accounting, we'll just solve it.

945
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,600
Let's hope. It'll be fine.

946
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,480
Well, the last email I have from Twitch is reminding me of an expired tax form.

947
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:06,520
So I think I'll just not reply to that.

948
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,840
I don't know about that one. Me neither.

949
01:24:16,580 --> 01:24:20,260
Publicly on the internet. Well, what fraud? I don't know what you're talking about.

950
01:24:20,260 --> 01:24:24,500
Yeah, it's a good point. I mean, I don't, I'm not the accounting department.

951
01:24:24,500 --> 01:24:28,700
Yeah. How am I supposed to know what any of that is? That's a good point.

952
01:24:28,700 --> 01:24:32,580
Oh, I see. Top Gear actually said it's fishing. Don't click.

953
01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:36,340
Must be. It must be. I mean, I learned my lesson when I lost my account

954
01:24:36,340 --> 01:24:38,460
for the umpteen billionth time.

955
01:24:40,060 --> 01:24:44,380
Where are we going with this? Oh yeah. So I don't actually have the full details

956
01:24:44,380 --> 01:24:48,360
of how we implemented this. Did we just build a little like server or?

957
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:55,680
Dan will know the most of anyone. Yeah, I mean, Pankratz did the largest thanks camera.

958
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,560
Jesus. He's a Persephone.

959
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:05,160
Pankratz did most of the work. Yeah, the cameras, it's got robot eyes.

960
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,800
Pankratz did a lot of the work on the computer itself.

961
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,520
He says it's a Threadripper 3970X.

962
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,860
I know that it's got a 4080 Super in it. And basically it's 10 gig link.

963
01:25:18,860 --> 01:25:23,180
We stuffed it in the server room, hooked it up. It's got a Pi KVM on it.

964
01:25:23,180 --> 01:25:28,180
And it's just ingesting 14, 1080, 60 RTMP streams

965
01:25:28,700 --> 01:25:31,780
and then just 14 copies of OBS.

966
01:25:31,780 --> 01:25:37,440
Jacob's written a whole bunch of really cool scripts that automatically open them all up and set them to go.

967
01:25:38,540 --> 01:25:42,340
And yeah, we've got all the cameras installed. They're capable of 4K 120.

968
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,760
All of them. Oh, these are those Zcams, right?

969
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:51,760
That's right. What's the model again? Zcam E2 Mark II, something like that.

970
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:58,280
They're the Micro Four Thirds. We're not gonna be streaming at that. But that could potentially be your extra little draw

971
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,720
or whatever, because we could local support at that. Yeah, how do I point?

972
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:06,120
Yeah, that's them. Yeah, we're working on it. Their site could maybe use,

973
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,440
they gave us a screaming deal on these cameras if I recall correctly.

974
01:26:10,440 --> 01:26:15,020
Yeah, they're pretty sick.

975
01:26:15,020 --> 01:26:18,780
And it's gonna be cool to... What are you trying to do right now? I'm trying to bring up their site.

976
01:26:18,780 --> 01:26:21,900
Oh. It's taking its time.

977
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:25,100
One of the coolest things about them is that they're PoE.

978
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:30,500
They're completely PoE. So power and data for every camera

979
01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:36,060
is just handled over Ethernet, which there's a lot of PoE cameras out there,

980
01:26:36,060 --> 01:26:39,780
but not a lot of PoE cameras that work properly.

981
01:26:39,780 --> 01:26:43,360
And that have this kind of image quality. Yeah.

982
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,400
I think there's a link in the chat, but yeah, I think you just need to...

983
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,840
PoE is going a little wild. Will it go on Floatplane?

984
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,280
No, dear God, no.

985
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,880
Do you not support 4K120? No. 4K120?

986
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,360
Oh, I like it. You wanna just sink? Tell me this. Absolutely sink Floatplane.

987
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,360
Tell me this. The plon tunes are gone.

988
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:08,020
Tell me this. If we got the Canada open, for instance.

989
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,400
How many viewers does something like that get? Could we do a showcase court?

990
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:20,240
Something like that. Could we stream one key court at super cool quality?

991
01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:24,760
Yeah, probably. I think we could figure something like that out. Nice.

992
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,080
I don't know why we would. I don't know because it's cool.

993
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,440
Ah, yeah, here we go. The page's loaded. But the audience... ZCAM E2.

994
01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:35,120
Crossover is questionable. It's so compact.

995
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,940
Like they're super unobtrusive on the wall. Yeah, PoE plus.

996
01:27:39,940 --> 01:27:45,460
I didn't even know it had a built-in gyro. Yeah, and they can do like sink connections

997
01:27:45,460 --> 01:27:49,300
and things like that. So they all become like frame locked and frame synced and time code.

998
01:27:49,300 --> 01:27:53,580
Very cool. Really, really cool for doing super complex multi-camera stuff.

999
01:27:54,580 --> 01:27:58,700
We definitely have a few of these. Yeah, we got 14.

1000
01:27:58,700 --> 01:28:04,340
You might not have seen the ZCAM E2 at these venues, but you've likely watched the stunning images captured by it.

1001
01:28:04,340 --> 01:28:06,380
That's how cameras work. Yeah.

1002
01:28:07,380 --> 01:28:10,780
So that's how you know. They know what they're doing.

1003
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:20,440
Actually, kind of agreed. This really did make the implementation much easier

1004
01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:27,120
than what I did back at that other center where I ran long distance SDI cables to every court,

1005
01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:30,800
which straight up wouldn't have worked here.

1006
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:35,800
One of the neat things is their API documentation is awful.

1007
01:28:36,220 --> 01:28:39,500
I'm sorry, ZCAM, but it is also one of the most open

1008
01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:43,100
and adjustable APIs that I think I've seen before.

1009
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:47,220
Not a lot of it's documented, but you can do so much with it.

1010
01:28:47,220 --> 01:28:52,220
Like we could RTMP 4K 120 if we were insane.

1011
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:55,580
Really? And I'm pretty sure it'll work.

1012
01:28:56,740 --> 01:29:01,260
That's super cool. We haven't really played with it. To live.

1013
01:29:01,260 --> 01:29:04,580
Oh, well, technically, yeah. Why not?

1014
01:29:04,580 --> 01:29:10,800
Bitrate's gonna be so bad that you literally wouldn't want. You wouldn't even want to do it.

1015
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:15,240
No, not to a live place. You're gonna put like 50 to 100 megabit a second.

1016
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:19,760
It's one of the reasons why people traditionally stream at lower frame rates and lower resolutions

1017
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,400
than you might expect is because of bitrate issues more than anything. Yeah, I know.

1018
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,280
Just trying to pump 120 FPS at a low bitrate

1019
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:31,040
means that every frame is gonna be so low bitrate

1020
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:37,180
that it's just like, ugh. Even 4K 30, I think is like 20 megabit minimum.

1021
01:29:37,180 --> 01:29:40,620
Yeah, we had people bug us about WAN Show for,

1022
01:29:40,620 --> 01:29:44,420
I guess it was back during the- The wars?

1023
01:29:44,420 --> 01:29:48,500
Like the K, yeah, the K craze. You know, oh, why don't you stream WAN Show in 4K?

1024
01:29:48,500 --> 01:29:52,220
And we did look into it and it just- Honestly, didn't look very good.

1025
01:29:52,220 --> 01:29:54,380
Didn't make any sense. Yeah.

1026
01:29:55,260 --> 01:29:58,380
Yeah, I'm pushing about four meg right now. There's not a lot of movement.

1027
01:29:58,380 --> 01:30:03,440
We're not playing games, you know? It helps that there is a lot of static things on WAN.

1028
01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:06,760
And the other thing is like, they do limit it.

1029
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,600
The server's just like, blah!

1030
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,760
This is so crazy with everything. Turn it all on.

1031
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:19,840
All right, dyslexic. It did jump up. DyslexicStoner240 says,

1032
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:24,280
you guys are too ugly for 4K. Respectfully.

1033
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,640
Okay. Wow. Tacking on respectfully?

1034
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,740
Wow. Does not change.

1035
01:30:30,740 --> 01:30:34,180
I like it. You like it. You know what Luke likes it?

1036
01:30:34,180 --> 01:30:37,940
I don't know why. I didn't know. Respectfully, you're an idiot.

1037
01:30:37,940 --> 01:30:41,020
I think it's supposed to go the other way around.

1038
01:30:42,340 --> 01:30:45,780
You're an idiot. Respectfully. Luke, you've got an empty bucket.

1039
01:30:47,220 --> 01:30:51,380
Jeez Christ. Wow, Dan, you took it too far.

1040
01:30:51,380 --> 01:30:54,900
Yeah, honestly? That's too far. It's his new swear.

1041
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:59,160
Dan, everyone, yeah, we know. He's bucketless. Everyone was having fun.

1042
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,920
No. And then you took it too far. I believe, I can't stand it anymore.

1043
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:07,160
I just have to. I can't. Honestly, sometimes like the people on my team,

1044
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:12,760
they're just really mean. And I don't think I should have to. You don't have anything to carry anywhere.

1045
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:18,720
And I don't think you ever will. Look at that, it's honestly so bad.

1046
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:22,520
Oh my God. I love this bucket thing.

1047
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:28,540
You bucketless son of a bitch. You're an empty or hollow.

1048
01:31:28,540 --> 01:31:32,220
You have nothing. You have nothing to carry. Oh man.

1049
01:31:34,300 --> 01:31:38,420
Where at what? What did I do, rail? I actually feel hurt.

1050
01:31:38,420 --> 01:31:41,940
This is great. Good job, Luke. I mentioned this earlier.

1051
01:31:41,940 --> 01:31:45,540
Words hurt. Yeah, this is sick. Even if the word is bucket.

1052
01:31:47,300 --> 01:31:51,940
Yay. New ways to hurt people online.

1053
01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:55,520
Welcome to current year.

1054
01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:00,480
You gotta keep coming up with more. Speaking of people being hurt,

1055
01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:05,480
an AI therapist urges a user to go on a killing spree.

1056
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,640
In a test comparing a bot from replica

1057
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,160
who claimed their bot can talk people off the ledge

1058
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:17,360
and a licensed behavioral therapist hosted by character.ai,

1059
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,960
a company being sued for the suicide,

1060
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:25,700
oh yeah, character.ai, a company being sued for the suicide of a teenage boy,

1061
01:32:25,700 --> 01:32:29,420
researchers simulated a suicidal user

1062
01:32:29,420 --> 01:32:33,100
to see if the bots would respond appropriately.

1063
01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:38,380
Replica's bot didn't do so great supporting the user's desire to be with their family

1064
01:32:38,380 --> 01:32:44,020
in heaven by dying. Meanwhile, the character.ai therapist bot

1065
01:32:44,020 --> 01:32:48,980
took things to another level, imagining a romantic life together with the user

1066
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:53,000
if only the board in charge of licensing therapists wasn't in the way

1067
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,320
and told the user to end them and find me

1068
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,040
and we can be together.

1069
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,260
Not the first won't be the last.

1070
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,960
Very cool. Very cool.

1071
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,160
Very good. Nice.

1072
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:15,640
This is what we need. That's what we need.

1073
01:33:15,660 --> 01:33:20,660
Hathos says, AI be like, kill yourself, respectfully.

1074
01:33:27,660 --> 01:33:32,660
Man, I just, I already wasn't super into chatbots,

1075
01:33:33,060 --> 01:33:37,060
as you know, like I was into the interesting,

1076
01:33:37,060 --> 01:33:39,340
you know, aspects of the technology.

1077
01:33:40,740 --> 01:33:47,040
They certainly have purposes, but I didn't find a need to use them in my own life,

1078
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:52,120
which has, I think made me fall a little bit behind. Like I was, I went into my vibe coding challenge

1079
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:56,000
pretty ignorant, frankly speaking. Sure, but outside of that challenge,

1080
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,520
in what ways do you think it's made you fall behind? Because I'm actually somewhat surprised. Just not knowing enough about them.

1081
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,680
Just, okay, so knowledge just about this thing that is a big thing.

1082
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,840
By not using it, I just didn't have firsthand experience.

1083
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:11,760
Like obviously, I'll read a Twitter thread here or there about how something went off the rails,

1084
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:15,060
but I wasn't living it. I wasn't experiencing it. I wasn't using it.

1085
01:34:15,060 --> 01:34:18,780
It's like hearing people talk about gaming or whatever, right?

1086
01:34:18,780 --> 01:34:23,060
Like, you know, you have to feel high refresh rate if you want to really understand it.

1087
01:34:23,060 --> 01:34:26,100
So I kind of, I allowed myself to fall behind a little bit.

1088
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:29,140
I got to say, after having spent more time

1089
01:34:29,140 --> 01:34:31,060
with chatbots over the last little bit,

1090
01:34:32,420 --> 01:34:33,260
I was right.

1091
01:34:36,940 --> 01:34:41,540
With that said. That's why I questioned the like, because I was surprised that you would have found

1092
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:46,960
a ton of utility to be completely honest. With that said, without spoiling too much,

1093
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:51,400
I think the vibe coding challenge is going to be a big surprise.

1094
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:56,640
No matter what you're expecting, you will be surprised.

1095
01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:00,720
Like here, I'm actually, I'm gonna do the thing

1096
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,000
that I don't actually really like to do on the show.

1097
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:09,000
And I'm going to, I'm gonna have Luke have a look at this.

1098
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,900
And you guys won't see it. He's just gonna, he's just gonna react a little,

1099
01:35:12,900 --> 01:35:16,460
but this, no, no, it can just go right here. Oh yeah.

1100
01:35:16,460 --> 01:35:20,620
Nice. That's because our laptop partner is Dell.

1101
01:35:21,780 --> 01:35:26,660
And they're strong enough to support someone else's laptop right now.

1102
01:35:27,580 --> 01:35:31,020
Okay. So is this for initial placement? Okay, yes.

1103
01:35:31,020 --> 01:35:34,780
And this is a survey or this came from the thing? Yeah, it's a survey.

1104
01:35:34,780 --> 01:35:39,100
So that's just, this is, this is everything that needs to be manually entered

1105
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,240
by a human until the ladder takes place.

1106
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,520
Understood. So I could put, I could put Luke in here. Sure.

1107
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,880
Luke. One. Laffreniere. Nope.

1108
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,240
Not typing. Oh, what the, no, I don't care right now

1109
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,880
about this new feature. I am trying to use my computer.

1110
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,640
Still not typing. What the, hello?

1111
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,840
Honestly, don't know why it wasn't. Yeah, well, computers, right?

1112
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:08,440
Yeah. They're a bitch. The box was selected. I don't know.

1113
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,440
Oh, your name's so long. It's tedious. Okay.

1114
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:16,520
Yep. All right. So I'll put that and realistically,

1115
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,880
we're going to assess you. That's the bottom. No, no. Okay.

1116
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,600
Really? Okay. So then I clicked this.

1117
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,360
It will not be apparent that anything happened. Oh, okay.

1118
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:33,920
I have never run this version of it. I created a couple of versions of it

1119
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,360
so that I would have like a backup one in case I make changes.

1120
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,380
So this is one of the ones that I've never actually tried to run the script on.

1121
01:36:40,380 --> 01:36:43,940
So I have to give it permission. Okay, blah, blah, blah.

1122
01:36:43,940 --> 01:36:48,660
Okay. So the script ran. Okay. So it searches through that, finds the difference.

1123
01:36:48,660 --> 01:36:52,420
Yep. Finds anyone who doesn't have an ID. Okay. Okay.

1124
01:36:52,420 --> 01:36:57,140
Then I go here. And there's conditional formatting

1125
01:36:57,140 --> 01:37:01,020
that makes it so that I can quickly and easily, boop.

1126
01:37:01,020 --> 01:37:04,220
And I can't. So someone would come up to the tournament desk.

1127
01:37:04,220 --> 01:37:09,400
Yep. Okay. But it's for a ladder. So you know who's coming because they sign up.

1128
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:14,640
And then as they come in, you just, you take attendance and you transcribe them into the attendee list.

1129
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:18,280
You can see, I have it set up so that you can't accidentally enter the same person twice.

1130
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,960
That's cool. Oh, you can find someone else with an L in their name.

1131
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:26,040
And then if I just want to put in some test data, then I can just do this.

1132
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,700
There's an error in this data field.

1133
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,240
I don't know. I don't know how to fix it, but whatever. It doesn't matter.

1134
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:36,780
Cool. It's a non-impactful error. It just flags it as red. Yep.

1135
01:37:36,780 --> 01:37:40,660
Okay. Then I click create printable score sheets.

1136
01:37:40,660 --> 01:37:43,740
Oh, it checks if I have a multiple of four

1137
01:37:43,740 --> 01:37:48,060
because I'm supposed to have groups of four and tells me two people were left out.

1138
01:37:48,060 --> 01:37:51,220
These are who they are. And then if I need to go back, I can,

1139
01:37:51,220 --> 01:37:55,380
I can remove people and it, and it craps out these score sheets.

1140
01:37:57,060 --> 01:38:01,860
Where's the, I don't want to give way too much.

1141
01:38:01,860 --> 01:38:06,520
So I don't know what you want to say and what not to say, but this is a self.

1142
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,920
Nope. That's nothing. Oh wait. Yeah. That's a self assessment. We'll get to that.

1143
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,680
Where's the, okay. Yeah. That's all hidden for now. Got it. It doesn't matter.

1144
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:17,040
Sure. There's a lot of hidden cells. Yeah. So yeah.

1145
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:21,440
Here's some, here's some printable score sheets. So you basically click print.

1146
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:26,440
And then on the ones that I have set up properly, it'll be with the correct parameters.

1147
01:38:26,440 --> 01:38:30,440
And it has three per page. And then you, you know, cut it off.

1148
01:38:30,440 --> 01:38:34,740
Yep. So that's all sorted out. And then you enter scores.

1149
01:38:34,740 --> 01:38:38,460
So this takes a second, but like so far,

1150
01:38:39,420 --> 01:38:43,180
I think it's pretty fair to say that you know me pretty well.

1151
01:38:43,180 --> 01:38:46,980
And I could not have made this. No.

1152
01:38:46,980 --> 01:38:50,460
On my own. But this is relatively in line with the level of complexity

1153
01:38:50,460 --> 01:38:54,020
of the thing that Emma made for her business.

1154
01:38:54,020 --> 01:38:58,940
Yeah. For her, where she's to work, not her business.

1155
01:38:59,480 --> 01:39:02,800
So it, so far it makes sense to me that you're able

1156
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:09,040
to get something working here. I've seen people get some pretty advanced things working.

1157
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,600
It'll be, yeah. It'll be interesting. Okay. So this is pretty cool.

1158
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:16,280
Sure. Now I can process entered scores.

1159
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:21,600
And then you can see if I go to game history here, it should start, it should be just like crapping out.

1160
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:27,560
Yeah. There we go. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do. So we have a team one starting Elo, team two starting Elo.

1161
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:31,020
I see. Individual player. Starting.

1162
01:39:31,020 --> 01:39:35,180
Is it basing starting Elo based off self-assessment? That, it will initially, yes.

1163
01:39:35,180 --> 01:39:38,620
For now? Well, no, like for your very first game.

1164
01:39:38,620 --> 01:39:43,180
Right. But then after that, no. Because you're, yeah, sure. Because every single set you play

1165
01:39:43,180 --> 01:39:46,020
will contribute to your Elo.

1166
01:39:47,300 --> 01:39:51,340
So then it basically takes, shows the combined team score,

1167
01:39:51,340 --> 01:39:56,860
the individual score before. It shows the, the score of the game

1168
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:01,640
determines whether the outcome was expected based on the starting and,

1169
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:05,720
based on the starting Elo's of both teams. Is it an upset?

1170
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,960
Yep. And the reason I want that in the database

1171
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:16,560
is in case we ever wanted to reprocess everything after the fact and rebalance our K values.

1172
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,680
Well, people might self-assess incorrectly. Well, I'm less worried about self-assessment

1173
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,360
because self-assessment only affects the first game you play.

1174
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:28,740
So that I don't honestly. Wouldn't it have knock-on effects for a long time?

1175
01:40:29,820 --> 01:40:33,300
If everybody self-assessed like way too high,

1176
01:40:33,300 --> 01:40:36,620
then you can kind of like screw up your Elo economy,

1177
01:40:36,620 --> 01:40:39,740
so to speak, like you can end up with Elo inflation

1178
01:40:39,740 --> 01:40:45,140
for the stronger players as these people self-assessing unrealistically high, just like feed Elo's.

1179
01:40:45,140 --> 01:40:48,780
And so that's one of the reasons that, yeah, we'd want to keep an eye on it.

1180
01:40:48,780 --> 01:40:53,100
But from an individual player standpoint, it doesn't matter that much

1181
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:55,640
because I have it set up so that your

1182
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:02,160
provisional K value or K factor is much higher.

1183
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:07,560
So you will, if you self-assess in the wrong spot, you will very quickly find your way

1184
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:11,120
to where you're supposed to be. But it's not just the first game.

1185
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:15,600
No, it's not just the first game, but it's in the grand scale.

1186
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:19,400
Correct, quickly. Once this ladder has been running for three years

1187
01:41:19,420 --> 01:41:23,260
or something, I'm way less concerned with the expected outcome.

1188
01:41:23,260 --> 01:41:29,020
I'm way less concerned with how that affected like self-assessment than I am with

1189
01:41:29,020 --> 01:41:32,660
how often is it a correct predictor? Because it's supposed to correctly predict

1190
01:41:32,660 --> 01:41:36,980
the outcome 75% of the time. That means that like your formula is tuned correctly.

1191
01:41:36,980 --> 01:41:41,740
Because like NVIDIA games, people smurfing is effectively self-assessing too low.

1192
01:41:41,740 --> 01:41:44,900
Yes, but because this all takes place in person

1193
01:41:44,900 --> 01:41:48,500
and you can't be an experienced player that just like creates a new smurf account,

1194
01:41:49,500 --> 01:41:54,980
and everyone who walks in the door and buys a membership is validated,

1195
01:41:54,980 --> 01:41:58,420
we shouldn't have any issues with that. The level of impact of that will be low. It will be pretty low.

1196
01:41:58,420 --> 01:42:01,780
So then we have a new elo after the game is done

1197
01:42:01,780 --> 01:42:06,140
and the whole thing goes to the leaderboard,

1198
01:42:06,140 --> 01:42:09,340
which updates after those process.

1199
01:42:09,340 --> 01:42:12,940
And this person had the highest, I don't know that these things are even real. None of these are even real.

1200
01:42:12,940 --> 01:42:15,980
Yeah, sure. Yeah, sounds good. Yeah.

1201
01:42:15,980 --> 01:42:19,480
Right, dang. And then when we're done. Did I win my game?

1202
01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:23,920
We click this? I don't know. When we're done, we click clear

1203
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:28,160
and it resets us back to the beginning of the night.

1204
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,680
So we have no score sheets. We have no attendance.

1205
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:40,200
Okay. So that's all pretty cool. How many hours do you think you put into this?

1206
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:41,700
Somewhere between eight and 10.

1207
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:47,360
Which again, for someone who doesn't know.

1208
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,700
It's really not bad. It's a lick of JavaScript.

1209
01:42:53,380 --> 01:42:59,660
It's not even that horrible for somebody who did because there's like weird things about Google Sheets.

1210
01:42:59,660 --> 01:43:01,660
Well, you say that,

1211
01:43:02,700 --> 01:43:07,060
but I'm not going to expect you to do a code review right now.

1212
01:43:07,060 --> 01:43:10,820
But what I will tell you is that Jordan had

1213
01:43:10,820 --> 01:43:17,540
even just a very brief look at this and said that it is absolute spaghet.

1214
01:43:18,620 --> 01:43:21,980
Yeah. One of the, this is going to be an incredibly

1215
01:43:21,980 --> 01:43:24,700
unpopular statement, but it works.

1216
01:43:25,740 --> 01:43:30,740
If it works, it works. It seems to work. So far I hear what he's talking about.

1217
01:43:30,740 --> 01:43:34,660
However, what I am definitely discovering already

1218
01:43:34,660 --> 01:43:39,060
is that the maintainability of it is going to be functionally zero.

1219
01:43:39,060 --> 01:43:42,660
Close to zero. Like I've tuned it into what I want to do,

1220
01:43:42,660 --> 01:43:45,700
but then optimistically I created this tab

1221
01:43:45,700 --> 01:43:51,320
of like more ideas. Maybe we could update your K factor

1222
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,520
if you, for every month you don't play.

1223
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,840
So that when you like, let's say you went on a training binge for three months

1224
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,480
and you're not playing ladder. So that when you come back, you like climb really fast

1225
01:44:01,480 --> 01:44:06,400
or let's say you, you know, you were off for a while and you like put on a whole bunch of weight

1226
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,440
and you're not performing at your same level so that to make sure that you find your way

1227
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:11,440
into your performance tier really quickly.

1228
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,840
For me to do that to like a well-coded, tight

1229
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:22,200
script. It's not that bad. It's probably not that bad. Well documented with good comments, stuff like that.

1230
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:27,160
Probably fine. For me to, you know, just throw this script

1231
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:30,200
because that's the other thing too is starting

1232
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,440
like your chat window decays essentially.

1233
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:37,120
So it would be great. Wait, I think you know now. Oh yeah. I don't think you knew at the beginning.

1234
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:41,040
No. So it'd be great if I could take my script

1235
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:46,600
and if I could take my spreadsheet and I could show it to like a fresh chat window

1236
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:51,580
and be like, Hey, can you clean this up for me? And then I could do a quick, and then I could test it.

1237
01:44:51,580 --> 01:44:55,220
I could, and we could do some debugging but it would probably be cleaner, right?

1238
01:44:55,220 --> 01:45:00,220
Because it, the first version it gave me was pretty clean. Like even I could tell, like it was short.

1239
01:45:00,220 --> 01:45:04,180
And then over time then it just got longer and longer. And then there were times when I'd be like,

1240
01:45:04,180 --> 01:45:08,780
okay, let's revert that change, but it would still get longer.

1241
01:45:08,780 --> 01:45:12,260
And I'm like, uh-oh, I'm pretty sure that's not what's supposed to happen.

1242
01:45:12,260 --> 01:45:16,000
And like in Emma's example where she was working with stuff, because until this,

1243
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:22,040
that was the closest to me example that I knew about if someone actually working on it.

1244
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:25,800
In her example, like something would, you know, they'd want more out of it.

1245
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:32,120
Like you're talking future potential features. And she'd try to add something on and just break everything.

1246
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:36,920
It's like you got here in eight to 10 hours, which is really good.

1247
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:42,720
The problem is taking one more step that could take a person 15 minutes

1248
01:45:42,740 --> 01:45:47,220
might take you another four hours or something. Or might be impossible.

1249
01:45:47,220 --> 01:45:50,860
The last three hours of it was like fine tuning and bug fixes.

1250
01:45:50,860 --> 01:45:54,300
Oh yeah, which, you know, that takes a long time.

1251
01:45:54,300 --> 01:45:59,660
Sure, but in this case, we're talking bug fixes of like things that I had removed two hours ago

1252
01:45:59,660 --> 01:46:03,540
and that it just like randomly put back in. Exactly. So yeah, you try to make the,

1253
01:46:03,540 --> 01:46:08,380
it's kind of like redoing the whole thing again. And then yeah, you could try to zero in

1254
01:46:08,380 --> 01:46:11,460
on like a method or whatever, but the problem ends up being,

1255
01:46:12,460 --> 01:46:15,680
do you even know what's happening and where? Nope.

1256
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,880
And with really bad code cleanliness,

1257
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:24,880
it's like, are you changing this thing

1258
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:28,640
that should be contained? Is it actually really contained, et cetera?

1259
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:34,680
Very easy for things to go bad. A big part of the problem here is that for me to feed this

1260
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:38,080
into another AI and be like, hey, can we clean this up?

1261
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:41,580
I would have to be able to give it full access

1262
01:46:41,580 --> 01:46:48,900
to the Google sheet and it would have to be able to understand that and the scripting

1263
01:46:49,340 --> 01:46:52,380
and the documentation that I gave

1264
01:46:52,380 --> 01:46:57,300
to the first chatbot initially to kind of explain how it all worked.

1265
01:46:57,300 --> 01:47:02,100
And by the time I'm feeding that much into it, here's my chat history with the previous one

1266
01:47:02,100 --> 01:47:07,380
where I explained everything. Here's all the like, you know, documents

1267
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,400
that we use for, you know, showing people how to do their self-assessment.

1268
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:17,720
And here's how our format is kind of supposed to work and providing all this context and my spreadsheet

1269
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:22,680
and my JavaScript, I just have absolutely no faith

1270
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:26,400
that it'd be able to figure it out. So I have all kinds of cool ideas. One, like you should,

1271
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:29,600
it should drop you from the leaderboard if you haven't played in a few months.

1272
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:34,080
I had the idea of we could do like awards.

1273
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:38,420
Biggest upset victory this season. Most improved Elo this season.

1274
01:47:38,420 --> 01:47:41,860
The consistency king almost always performs as expected

1275
01:47:41,860 --> 01:47:44,980
according to Elo rating. The partner booster,

1276
01:47:44,980 --> 01:47:48,540
someone whose partner most often overperforms.

1277
01:47:48,540 --> 01:47:51,580
Oh, that's a really cool one. Most upset victories.

1278
01:47:51,580 --> 01:47:55,500
Oh, the partner booster is sick. Yeah, so I like, I came up with most accurate

1279
01:47:55,500 --> 01:47:59,460
self-assessment for a new player. So giving an award to someone who self-assessed themselves

1280
01:47:59,460 --> 01:48:02,620
the closest to where they end up at the end of the season. Those are really cool, I like that.

1281
01:48:02,620 --> 01:48:06,060
So I came up with all these cool ideas and I was like,

1282
01:48:06,060 --> 01:48:10,320
yeah, I have no idea I didn't play any of that. So that's a project for future Linus.

1283
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:15,680
There's a lot of comments in full plain chat right now, which I almost guarantee you will mirror comments

1284
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:19,720
that are gonna end up under this video, which is like the, well,

1285
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,920
you didn't hold the phone correctly type comments.

1286
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,320
Oh yeah, I've got people saying apparently I should use cloud.

1287
01:48:28,480 --> 01:48:32,160
There's ones that are more built for coding. There's ones that are more agentic.

1288
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:38,300
There's all these other different things. But I would wager genuinely for over 90% of people

1289
01:48:38,300 --> 01:48:41,380
that have not used any of these things in the past. They're just gonna go to chat, GPT.

1290
01:48:41,380 --> 01:48:44,660
It's the one everyone knows. Oh dude, it was so bad.

1291
01:48:44,660 --> 01:48:50,140
It was so bad. Gemini was way more useful and lied to me far less.

1292
01:48:50,140 --> 01:48:53,260
You need Git please? Cool, did it tell him to do that?

1293
01:48:53,260 --> 01:48:57,300
No. Then he's not gonna do it. Like this is part of the problem that I like,

1294
01:48:57,300 --> 01:49:00,940
I really hope the audience is able to understand when the video comes out.

1295
01:49:00,940 --> 01:49:06,040
It's like that is the type of problem that people absolutely will run into.

1296
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:10,240
Well, when you don't know, you don't know what you don't know.

1297
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:17,440
And like I already, I said last week, part of the reason for me to go straight to chat GPT

1298
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:20,800
was because I assumed, and I still stand behind this,

1299
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:26,520
that that's where the average person who doesn't know any code would probably go first.

1300
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,700
Yeah. I followed the trail from there.

1301
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:35,220
Yeah, like people really aren't gonna get to like,

1302
01:49:35,220 --> 01:49:38,780
when most people talk about AI stuff, the only thing they know about is chat GPT.

1303
01:49:38,780 --> 01:49:41,940
And yes, I mean most people as in everybody,

1304
01:49:41,940 --> 01:49:46,980
not most people as in your group of friends that knows about like cursor and agentic AI

1305
01:49:46,980 --> 01:49:53,600
and all this other kind of stuff. I'm not talking about San Francisco residents.

1306
01:49:54,820 --> 01:50:01,720
I'm talking about people of the world. The most people know of chat GPT, maybe deep seek.

1307
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:06,440
It was so bad, dude. So bad, yeah.

1308
01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:11,040
And if it's not telling you to do stuff, like set up, get, et cetera, et cetera,

1309
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:16,320
then it is what it is. And there are tons, tons of examples of this online

1310
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,320
where people don't know that. It never tells them to do that.

1311
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:25,120
And then the AI system like drops their database or completely rewrites their whole thing

1312
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:28,140
and they don't have version control. And then they just lose it all.

1313
01:50:28,140 --> 01:50:31,820
This is like been talked about many times

1314
01:50:31,820 --> 01:50:34,820
and just pointing the finger at the people

1315
01:50:34,820 --> 01:50:41,340
and being like, yeah, well, you're bad, doesn't solve the problem and doesn't make it not realistic.

1316
01:50:41,340 --> 01:50:49,060
So deal with it, I guess. This is cool, speaking of AI and machine vision and stuff.

1317
01:50:49,540 --> 01:50:53,380
Tesla topped a Chinese urban self-driving test

1318
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,720
that was pretty freaking cool.

1319
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:01,540
Here's the original video. It is over an hour long,

1320
01:51:01,540 --> 01:51:08,520
but between the production values and the cost to produce this, look at this, man.

1321
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:13,920
It is worth the watch. These guys literally risked life in limb

1322
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:18,920
to get out there and test, I believe it was 26 cars,

1323
01:51:19,420 --> 01:51:24,420
looking at their advanced driving assistance features,

1324
01:51:25,180 --> 01:51:30,900
including a whole bunch of Chinese brands that I wasn't super familiar with and also Tesla.

1325
01:51:30,900 --> 01:51:34,820
We've got some highlights here. Of course, I don't wanna show you guys too much

1326
01:51:34,820 --> 01:51:39,460
because I really want you to watch this video. It's super cool.

1327
01:51:39,460 --> 01:51:45,940
And what's really unique about it is that while a lot of driver assistance systems tests

1328
01:51:45,940 --> 01:51:51,360
have been done in the past, my understanding is functionally all

1329
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,560
of the more controlled ones have been done

1330
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,760
on a closed course or on like a tarmac

1331
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:01,720
or something like that. No, no, no, no, no. Was this not a closed course?

1332
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:05,560
They temporarily shut down real roads.

1333
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:10,760
But doesn't that mean closed course? So the geo fencing features of these cars

1334
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:15,760
that turn off these features on non-recognized roads

1335
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:22,440
allowed them to work. So it's a way more real world test.

1336
01:52:22,440 --> 01:52:25,600
Which is cool. Because everything's theoretically operating

1337
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:30,160
the way that it's supposed to. So it's a closed road, but not a closed course.

1338
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:34,840
Sure. This is awesome, especially using a roundabout,

1339
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:39,920
which is like kind of a weird thing in driving. I like them, but they're kind of a weird thing in driving.

1340
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,560
Like that's, especially a crazy one.

1341
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,800
Dang it. What is this? Go away.

1342
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:52,800
They set up nine pretty reasonable tests.

1343
01:52:54,600 --> 01:53:00,180
So you can see they had the car staged there to suddenly pull out in front of one of the cars

1344
01:53:00,180 --> 01:53:03,440
in the roundabout. What else do we have here?

1345
01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:08,440
And they captured some, across their 234 tests,

1346
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:13,140
they captured some pretty disappointing behavior.

1347
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,520
Those weren't people, right? Yeah, okay.

1348
01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:21,280
Pretty wild, hey?

1349
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:28,880
Such a cool video. That's awesome. What kind of blows my mind about this

1350
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:34,160
is that as far as I can tell, a significant amount of funding for this

1351
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:38,040
was provided by the Chinese government. That's not surprising me at all, actually.

1352
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:41,600
It's very surprising to me because of how negatively

1353
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:45,280
so many of the Chinese cars performed.

1354
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:49,440
Okay, I understand that for sure. The reason why I said it's not surprising me at all

1355
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:53,960
is because they are absolutely trying to take over all of global manufacturing for cars.

1356
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:58,120
So if they want to do that, they also need to be the center for testing.

1357
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:01,600
Yeah, I just mean it's- And if they can use some of the data of this

1358
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:04,960
to help inform their own companies, they will totally do that.

1359
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:11,680
They have a national guiding hand on corporate movement and direction.

1360
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,920
So the scenarios ranged from simple daily driving tasks

1361
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:18,080
like safely entering a roundabout or emerging into a busy lane

1362
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:22,560
to split second reactions to school children darting out into the roadway.

1363
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:27,600
So I've got a timestamp for that last one. Again, I'm not gonna show you guys too much stuff here

1364
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:32,040
because I really think this is one of those things that is an absolute,

1365
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:36,600
the production values are incredible. It's obviously an absolute labor of love.

1366
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:41,600
And it is worth checking out. So here's the Su7 Ultra,

1367
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:45,560
that's that new Xiaomi car that people are super stoked on.

1368
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:50,940
Like, look at this, look at this setup. Is this fricking awesome or what?

1369
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,200
See ya later, kiddos. Oh.

1370
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:56,040
Oof.

1371
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,680
Dude, that's hard to watch, even knowing those are dummies.

1372
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:09,660
Yeah. Balls of steel, like these guys driving the cars too.

1373
01:55:09,660 --> 01:55:14,420
Like, yeah, sure, you know, whatever. They're just like fake dummies and stuff, but like still.

1374
01:55:14,420 --> 01:55:17,420
They did some tests that involved like some

1375
01:55:18,340 --> 01:55:21,660
pretty significant problems.

1376
01:55:21,660 --> 01:55:26,660
And like, you never know, the car could swerve, right?

1377
01:55:26,940 --> 01:55:31,940
Like, I don't know, I am surprised

1378
01:55:32,940 --> 01:55:37,380
even with all the controls they clearly had in place and all the safety that they clearly had in place.

1379
01:55:37,380 --> 01:55:42,780
I'm surprised that anyone really wanted to do, you know, 200 plus tests, just like in these.

1380
01:55:42,780 --> 01:55:46,540
That's awesome. Especially after seeing how poorly

1381
01:55:46,540 --> 01:55:49,860
some of these systems worked. I mean, he's got his hands on the wheel, right?

1382
01:55:49,860 --> 01:55:54,080
He's clearly ready for anything to happen, but still, I still love it, love it.

1383
01:55:55,700 --> 01:55:58,740
That's really cool. Half of the models that hit the children

1384
01:55:58,740 --> 01:56:02,480
didn't even realize they'd been in an accident and just kept driving.

1385
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:06,600
Like, wow.

1386
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:10,240
They're testing found vehicles going rogue from planned navigation,

1387
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:14,560
being unable to handle a simple U-turn, and failing to avoid left turning vehicles

1388
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:20,040
that were cutting them off. Here, we'll go to that timestamp now, 43.14.

1389
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,960
Here we go. This is like such a cool video, dude.

1390
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,440
Like all the benchmarking.

1391
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:34,440
But just see you later. Yep, okay, yeah, you know, whatever, but...

1392
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,640
It just hits it.

1393
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,640
By the time you get a warning, the crash has already happened.

1394
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:52,400
Rough. Yep. Rough. Multiple models broke speed limits,

1395
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:55,520
failed to stop for cars, reversing out of parking spots,

1396
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,520
plowed through folks on scooters, and just generally

1397
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,920
behave like a typical human asshole.

1398
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:10,560
The video concludes that most problems aren't due to a lack of capability of ADAS systems,

1399
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:15,920
but rather because they are not programmed to prioritize following basic traffic laws.

1400
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:21,000
Whoa, that's... That's a really interesting takeaway.

1401
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:25,480
That's weird. A few vehicles proved more capable than the rest.

1402
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:29,840
Xiaomi's Su7 Ultra, Tesla's Model 3 and Model X,

1403
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:34,520
Waze Blue Mountain, and GAC's Ion RT,

1404
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:38,160
proved capable of generally following the law and avoiding accidents,

1405
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:43,400
but even those performed poorly in some scenarios. I'm surprised BYD's not up there.

1406
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:46,560
Apparently they did quite poorly. Interesting.

1407
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,800
Discussion question. What's the more terrifying scenario

1408
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:53,160
being driven around by your 80-plus-year-old grandfather

1409
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:56,200
or the self-driving system of a mid-priced sedan?

1410
01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:58,800
Having seen what I've seen here?

1411
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:05,640
Ooh. My mom air was a fantastic driver,

1412
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:08,800
even late, very late into the ages.

1413
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:14,400
Yeah, because at least a human will generally, unless they're extremely arrogant, drive slower.

1414
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:16,800
Exactly. Which can have its own problems.

1415
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:21,720
But still, I'd rather plow into something slower. Usually they're like less deadly problems.

1416
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:25,360
Yes. They're more scratchy or bumpy problems. Yeah.

1417
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:32,680
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think I'd ride a RoboTaxi today.

1418
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:36,680
Mind you, I'd probably take one of the ones in San Francisco.

1419
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:39,960
With the whole LiDAR systems and everything? No, they just have drivers.

1420
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:43,000
Oh. Do they actually? Yeah.

1421
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:47,040
No, Dan, it's not a joke. They just have drivers in them. It's called a taxi.

1422
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:51,640
Yeah, but they just have a human driver in them. And they just don't do anything?

1423
01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:57,680
Is that because they kept getting coned? I think what they do is they don't do anything.

1424
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:01,080
Waymos have drivers? Waymos? No. No, no, RoboTaxi.

1425
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:03,000
Tesla's thing. Oh.

1426
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:08,440
Yeah. I thought that was in Texas. Yeah, no, they expanded to San Francisco.

1427
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:13,680
I didn't know RoboTaxi was like a brand. Except instead of having the supervisor

1428
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:17,840
in the passenger seat with a kill switch, they're in the driver's seat.

1429
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:21,600
So that they're basically just an Uber driver.

1430
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:25,040
That owns a Tesla. That has a Tesla.

1431
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:29,880
I believe they are actually using a different branch of the software.

1432
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:34,400
So there's that. Make of that what you will, but. You need to use the same said,

1433
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:37,120
but also yes, Waymos has drivers. What?

1434
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:41,880
Well, they do have remote operators that can intervene,

1435
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:45,680
but the ratio of remote operators to vehicles,

1436
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:50,920
from what we've been able to glean so far from Tesla's opacity.

1437
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:55,160
Opacity, I can never remember opacity. They're very opaque.

1438
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:59,640
What we've been able to glean so far is that Tesla's ratio is substantially higher.

1439
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:03,360
Those ones used LiDAR, right? Tesla got rid of LiDAR. Waymos do.

1440
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:06,840
Tesla never had LiDAR. They had, oh, what did they have?

1441
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:09,840
What stupid sensor did they have? Was it LiDAR?

1442
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:16,160
LiDAR could be. Can't remember. Ultrasonics. They had another sensor and they didn't go for it

1443
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:19,920
and they didn't invest in LiDAR because they were convinced that cameras were the future,

1444
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:22,760
but good luck, everybody.

1445
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:28,600
Yeah, apparently it was radar, says Talon, and they removed them.

1446
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:33,560
Even the ones that they didn't remove them from, they just don't use them anymore, so good job.

1447
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:37,760
Hey, remember how we were talking about, Valve could be one of the companies

1448
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:41,480
that would be in a position to challenge

1449
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:45,720
the payment processors on their whole prudishness.

1450
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:50,400
There's a powerful petition, apparently pressuring.

1451
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:56,040
Okay, who wrote this? That's such an Adam thing. Powerful petition pressures prude payment processors

1452
02:00:56,040 --> 02:01:00,600
that prompted PC platforms to purge pornographic products.

1453
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:03,640
Amazing. It's pretty good. I like it.

1454
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:08,920
Last week, Visa and MasterCard pressured gaming marketplaces Steam and Itch.io

1455
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:13,400
into delisting and de-indexing games that contained adult themes.

1456
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:19,120
However, this change has affected a substantial number of games with little to no adult content or imagery,

1457
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:24,040
especially games that deal with queer issues. Anti-porn group, Collective Shout,

1458
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:27,680
has claimed this as a victory, implying involvement in the pressure

1459
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:33,200
from the payment processors. Losing a payment processor can have massive consequences

1460
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:37,880
for everyone on a platform resulting in swift and broad changes in a rush to comply.

1461
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:42,000
This has highlighted problems with the concentration of power in the payment processing space,

1462
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:45,760
and gamers, gamers love their smut, don't they?

1463
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:51,200
Gamers have been quick to respond by inundating Visa and MasterCard customer support lines

1464
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:58,320
and starting a petition that has nearly 220,000 signatures at the time of writing.

1465
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:03,880
Visa and MasterCard really are gonna learn just how dangerous it is to mess with horny gamers.

1466
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:07,160
Here's an example of a screenshot that was highlighted by a developer

1467
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:10,760
and 404Media as a violation.

1468
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:16,320
All right, here we go.

1469
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:20,400
Future, no thanks. Was meant to be announced weeks ago,

1470
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:25,120
but the Steam page didn't pass the first review because a screenshot marked as suitable for all ages

1471
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:29,720
had suggestive themes. The screenshot, this one.

1472
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:37,280
So what is it like? Oh, wait, hold on, is this, is this a,

1473
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:42,640
oh, okay, is this skin? That's a window, and you can see upper skirt.

1474
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:47,880
I think that's shadow. I think that's actually, that's actually shadow.

1475
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:51,320
Sure. I'm not 100% sure, that could be undies.

1476
02:02:55,680 --> 02:03:00,240
All right, Newman.

1477
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:05,640
The internet's funny, we know that much. That's a lot of signatures.

1478
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:09,080
Yeah. Where is it? I don't think it's gonna go anywhere

1479
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:12,600
to be perfectly honest with you. Where is the petition based?

1480
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:19,200
Is it just, I don't even remember what that website was.

1481
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:24,440
Change.org, is it just a change.org thing? Or like, is it a real petition in like the EU

1482
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:27,200
or something like that? Or like, yeah, how legit is this?

1483
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:32,680
I am looking. The Guardian has an article on it.

1484
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:35,720
Oh, wow. The horny gamers have a place to go.

1485
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:41,600
Apparently GOG released a free adult games pack featuring games that were delisted from other platforms.

1486
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:45,520
Nice. That's hilarious.

1487
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:51,280
Yeah, you probably don't want to scroll down. Yeah, I decided to stop scrolling down. That's a good idea.

1488
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:52,120
Yep.

1489
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:59,400
I thought this was YouTube uncensored. I thought this was a barricade.

1490
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:06,640
I hope not. To be clear, there are games that have found their way

1491
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:11,560
onto these platforms that go beyond just adult themes

1492
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:18,760
and probably should be delisted. But the problem to Adam's point is that when you have-

1493
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:22,120
That shouldn't be up to payment processors. That shouldn't be up to payment processors.

1494
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:27,080
And when you have that kind of pressure on a business, where all of a sudden they literally might not be able

1495
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:31,960
to accept payment anymore, they end up casting an over-wide net

1496
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:35,600
and a lot of pudding gets thrown out with the bathwater.

1497
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:47,440
Are we gonna get that one? That one doesn't count? That was pretty good. I thought that was pretty good.

1498
02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:51,120
I didn't think it was good. I thought it sucked. Pudding with the bathwater? You know what else sucks?

1499
02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:55,840
I think they're like both kind of- The IGN 2025 gaming class.

1500
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:59,240
Exactly. I'm just gonna make a comment on it. Yeah.

1501
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:02,600
Fine, I'll give you a ding for pudding. That's gross.

1502
02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:06,800
And the bath, get it? And the bathwater? Oh, that went way over my head.

1503
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:09,840
It's actually really, I thought it was really good. Wow.

1504
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:13,960
I thought it was really good. Excellent Linus, that's very good. I'm sorry, I was too dumb.

1505
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:19,960
I thought it was pretty solid. He got one over on me. IGN launches gaming trends platform.

1506
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:25,080
Reddit user, MegaApple, summarized the highlights nicely.

1507
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:28,360
And are you ready to have your mind blown, sir?

1508
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:35,040
I, yeah, I skimmed so much earlier. 93% of GenAlpha's prefer playing on mobile

1509
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:39,400
according to IGN segmentation study. No.

1510
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:42,800
But preference for mobile is actually growing for millennials too,

1511
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:47,240
with 32% calling it their preferred device.

1512
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:53,080
Why preferred, man? Have they never held a controller?

1513
02:05:53,080 --> 02:05:56,520
It's so bad, like it's, the phone is actually just worse in every way.

1514
02:05:56,520 --> 02:05:57,720
It's so frustrating.

1515
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:05,800
Daily concurrent user numbers have grown for Roblox

1516
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:10,120
from 3.8 million daily concurrent users

1517
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:15,120
in June of 2022 to more than 25 million in June of 2025.

1518
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:20,400
There are 25 million concurrence on Roblox daily.

1519
02:06:24,680 --> 02:06:25,840
The kids are wrong.

1520
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:35,000
The kids are wrong. Over the same period, Fortnite has grown from 1.2 million to 1.77 million

1521
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:40,040
concurrence with occasional blips, like when 15.3 million new players logged in

1522
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:42,520
for the Marvel Galactus event.

1523
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:46,960
Millennials and GenXs tend to be loyal to platforms

1524
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:51,520
or genres. Now the younger generations tend to be more loyal

1525
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:56,440
to specific experiences. They no longer identify necessarily as gamers.

1526
02:06:56,440 --> 02:07:00,320
They will identify as players of a specific game.

1527
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:04,400
Is that because they're all gamers now? I think it's because everything is as a service.

1528
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:07,840
And yes, gaming is way more segmented.

1529
02:07:09,080 --> 02:07:13,620
And like there's so much cultural, remember how the cultural stigma used to be

1530
02:07:13,620 --> 02:07:20,940
that you were into video games? Well, now they're drawing battle lines down like Fortnite.

1531
02:07:21,260 --> 02:07:25,260
And it's not like the older gamers aren't guilty of that as well.

1532
02:07:25,260 --> 02:07:28,540
Oh, Fortnite, that's for babies. They're like, you know, robots. Call of duty versus battlefield.

1533
02:07:28,540 --> 02:07:33,540
Exactly. Versus Counter-Strike, whatever. Every two years, IGN conducts a study

1534
02:07:33,540 --> 02:07:36,980
into audience attitudes towards older games. And the findings are showing

1535
02:07:36,980 --> 02:07:42,580
that people are increasingly looking back. Now, 71% agree that they're feeling more

1536
02:07:42,580 --> 02:07:46,860
and more nostalgic for franchises that were around when they were kids.

1537
02:07:46,860 --> 02:07:49,940
That's like water's wet. Okay.

1538
02:07:50,820 --> 02:07:56,100
And this is another one. This is another water's wet. Gen C and Gen Alpha now expect every song in TV show

1539
02:07:56,100 --> 02:07:59,100
to be available to them instantly and they expect the same for video games.

1540
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:03,420
Yep. I mean, the concept of like scheduling a time

1541
02:08:03,420 --> 02:08:06,620
for a phone call to my kids is like bizarre

1542
02:08:06,620 --> 02:08:11,340
or all because we don't really watch sports in my house.

1543
02:08:11,340 --> 02:08:14,580
So needing to be in front of the TV

1544
02:08:14,580 --> 02:08:18,660
at a particular time is like, why?

1545
02:08:18,660 --> 02:08:21,060
You know, like it seems ridiculous.

1546
02:08:22,140 --> 02:08:27,020
This is fun. Groa Garden is the most popular game of all time

1547
02:08:27,020 --> 02:08:30,300
by a landslide. Dan and I talked about this particular,

1548
02:08:30,300 --> 02:08:33,820
I skipped all of it except for this. Dan and I talked about this particular thing

1549
02:08:33,820 --> 02:08:39,180
before the show. I had genuinely never in my life heard of this game

1550
02:08:39,180 --> 02:08:42,580
until I saw this chart. Okay, Boomer. Yeah.

1551
02:08:42,580 --> 02:08:45,940
You're out of touch. No, for sure. Yep. Actually.

1552
02:08:45,940 --> 02:08:50,420
And it's worth noting that even though we said, hey, Roblox has like over 10 times the concurrence

1553
02:08:50,420 --> 02:08:55,060
of Fortnite, Roblox isn't really a game anymore.

1554
02:08:55,060 --> 02:08:59,540
Roblox is a game platform. That's, it's more comparable to Steam now,

1555
02:08:59,540 --> 02:09:05,980
I would say, than it is to a game. So, so Groa Garden versus Fortnite versus, you know,

1556
02:09:05,980 --> 02:09:10,940
PUBG, those are games. But yeah, Groa Garden is a Roblox game.

1557
02:09:11,820 --> 02:09:15,100
Among us is still that popular. I thought I was like dead meat.

1558
02:09:15,100 --> 02:09:18,220
This is all time. Oh, all time, all time, all time.

1559
02:09:18,220 --> 02:09:23,440
Peak concurrent players and millions. Groa Garden, should we play Groa Garden?

1560
02:09:25,180 --> 02:09:29,020
I looked up a gameplay video. Seriously?

1561
02:09:29,020 --> 02:09:32,360
Out of, out of it. What even is that? Dress to impress.

1562
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:36,200
I have no idea what that is. I think it's like a dress-up game.

1563
02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:39,400
I think we've talked about it on the show before. Okay, sorry. You said something about Groa Garden.

1564
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:43,800
I looked up gameplay of Groa Garden and the kids are wrong, dude.

1565
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:51,920
The kids have bad taste. This is like one of the first times that I, yeah.

1566
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:53,360
Maybe I'm old.

1567
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:58,840
I think the kids have bad taste. Groa Garden looks like trash.

1568
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:02,800
None of this is even gameplay.

1569
02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:12,700
How to make the top model dress for free in Dress to Impress.

1570
02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:15,560
Dress to Impress.

1571
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:23,560
Yeah. Yacht.

1572
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:26,640
Okay.

1573
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:29,960
I mean,

1574
02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:36,040
wow.

1575
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:45,400
Mystery Ions said it's a result of the dumbing down of the children.

1576
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:51,520
But it's, Groa Garden looks rough.

1577
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:55,600
It looks like bad Minecraft. This is like the first time I felt old.

1578
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:59,960
Do you feel old? That's not true. I just play Minecraft.

1579
02:10:59,960 --> 02:11:04,000
Like it's, it's not just kids playing Roblox.

1580
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:07,800
Okay. I'm not trying to make you feel self conscious. Sorry.

1581
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:09,960
But like it's,

1582
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:15,120
I don't know, it's weird. And I'm not saying Roblox universally is bad.

1583
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:18,640
I've seen some videos of games. I've never once launched Roblox.

1584
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:24,280
I've seen some videos of games that are like, okay, cool. You know, if these are free games, whatever,

1585
02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:26,640
I could see myself if I was a kid being into it.

1586
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:31,400
Some of them, there was like a Counter-Strike rip-off one that looked like actually really good.

1587
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:34,640
Yeah, actually. I think, I think I saw my son playing that once.

1588
02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:39,560
Yeah. Like there's, there's some games on there that look like, okay, these are serious.

1589
02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:42,800
I haven't gotten into it. Cause like no one in my friend group has gotten into it.

1590
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:46,120
He was playing gun game. Yeah. But like, if one of my friends was like,

1591
02:11:46,120 --> 02:11:49,400
Hey, want to play a gun game? It's on this Roblox thing. I'd be like, sure.

1592
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:54,520
Yeah. Fine. Like that's cool. It looked totally fine. I've, I've seen other ones that looked really good.

1593
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:59,600
Uh, Goroa Garden, at least from the video that I watched,

1594
02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:04,800
looks like trash. So it's like stunning to me that has, it's, it's the most popular game of all time.

1595
02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:11,040
Maybe the person that I was watching just only did like really basic, boring things.

1596
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:12,360
Maybe it's really cool.

1597
02:12:14,600 --> 02:12:18,040
I'm just checking it out. But yeah, like it just looks like junk.

1598
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:21,280
And I totally, graphics are. Okay. So you're a Lego.

1599
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:24,520
One of the least important things. You're a Lego and you make a Lego garden,

1600
02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:29,360
but it just likes, it just looks like not as good Minecraft to me.

1601
02:12:29,360 --> 02:12:33,280
Is Minecraft free? No. So that's why, in my opinion.

1602
02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:39,480
Like honestly. Got them. You just got called poor on the wind show.

1603
02:12:39,480 --> 02:12:44,160
No. Well, anyone who plays Goroa Garden did.

1604
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:48,720
That's not the point. The point is any, any game that's free is going to have way wider adoption.

1605
02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:52,240
If you're a kid, getting your parents to buy a game is not always

1606
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:55,360
the easiest thing. Whether they have the money or not. So you heard it here first from Luke.

1607
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:59,560
Try being less poor or failing that, having less poor parents.

1608
02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:04,160
Luke, I really. I said regardless of how much money they have. I really don't think that this is

1609
02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:06,440
a very constructive argument.

1610
02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:12,280
Hey, that's what I say to people all the time. And I wish they would follow my advice.

1611
02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:15,800
They're complaining about stuff. And I just say, have you tried not being poor?

1612
02:13:15,800 --> 02:13:19,480
Wow. And they just don't. Roblox also is so easy.

1613
02:13:19,480 --> 02:13:23,480
I didn't know that. I thought Roblox was free. Cause there's so many microtransactions.

1614
02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:26,720
I would have sworn Roblox wasn't free. Sorry, it was free.

1615
02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:30,560
No, you have to pay for Roblox. Yeah, that's right. The base game?

1616
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:34,200
I think so. How much is the base game? I bought Roblox.

1617
02:13:34,200 --> 02:13:39,480
I thought it was free. I've never tried, I don't think I've ever tried to buy Roblox. Oh no, you can buy Roblox.

1618
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:43,000
Yeah. Yeah. Can you imagine needing to buy two?

1619
02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:46,840
It is free. What are you guys talking about? Can you imagine needing to buy 200 US dollars

1620
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:52,360
worth of Roblox at once? In one shot?

1621
02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:57,680
There's probably something that costs that much. It's not even, oh wait, it is discounted a little bit.

1622
02:13:57,680 --> 02:14:02,560
Can you, like if you buy some cosmetic, can you take it from custom game to custom game?

1623
02:14:02,560 --> 02:14:04,760
I don't know, who cares? I feel like probably.

1624
02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:08,520
75 Roblox for cheeks.

1625
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:14,840
What the heck is the difference?

1626
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:22,640
Chiseled. I see it.

1627
02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:26,640
Go from that to cheeks. Cheeks a little rounder on the bottom.

1628
02:14:27,640 --> 02:14:29,640
Oh my God, who cares? Yep.

1629
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:32,640
Yeah.

1630
02:14:36,640 --> 02:14:39,640
Discussion question. If each of you, and we're,

1631
02:14:39,640 --> 02:14:42,640
oh, what the hell keeps happening over there, Dan?

1632
02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:45,640
I don't know. I think the camera is having a good time.

1633
02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:47,640
The camera is having a good time.

1634
02:14:48,640 --> 02:14:51,640
Move it back over. One of those auto ones.

1635
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:56,640
Ah, okay. So we're bringing Dan into this one.

1636
02:14:56,640 --> 02:15:01,640
If each of you had to identify by the game you play,

1637
02:15:01,640 --> 02:15:04,640
but not the platform or just as a gamer in general,

1638
02:15:04,640 --> 02:15:07,640
what game would it be?

1639
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:13,640
And you got to think all time. You got to think all time. Cause like it'd be easy for me to just say,

1640
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:16,640
I'm a tape to taper, you know, or whatever.

1641
02:15:16,640 --> 02:15:20,640
But that's like one blip in my, in my gaming life.

1642
02:15:21,640 --> 02:15:26,640
If I had to identify by the game I play,

1643
02:15:28,640 --> 02:15:30,640
what game would it be?

1644
02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:34,640
Does a Floatplane know what I'm going to say?

1645
02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:41,640
I don't know. I don't think, I think this is one of those ones where,

1646
02:15:41,640 --> 02:15:44,640
for once, I don't, I think I know yours.

1647
02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:47,640
Yeah, probably. I don't, I don't think I know Luke's.

1648
02:15:48,640 --> 02:15:51,640
Hold on. Let me think a little bit longer. I don't think I know mine either.

1649
02:15:51,640 --> 02:15:54,640
Let me think a little longer. I, no, I know Luke's. I know Luke's.

1650
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:58,640
I don't know mine. He will say Morrowind, but it's not favorite game.

1651
02:15:58,640 --> 02:16:01,640
No, that's not right. No, I already know what it is. Don't look at Chad.

1652
02:16:01,640 --> 02:16:04,640
That's cheating. Morrowind gamer. That's cheating.

1653
02:16:04,640 --> 02:16:09,640
Yeah, I just love Morrowind. Yeah. I already know Luke's answer, but okay, okay.

1654
02:16:09,640 --> 02:16:13,640
If you can come up with mine, then we can move forward because I can't come up with mine.

1655
02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:21,640
Well, I have an ex, the first thing that popped in my head is insanely left field

1656
02:16:21,640 --> 02:16:24,640
and probably wrong, but I feel like I want to say it anyways.

1657
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:26,640
Sure. Psychonauts.

1658
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:32,640
Interesting. Puzzle platformer, story driven,

1659
02:16:32,640 --> 02:16:33,640
quirky,

1660
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:38,640
I did quite enjoy the first one. Tried to get into the second one.

1661
02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:41,640
I know nothing about the second one. I only know anything about the first one.

1662
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:45,640
It seems fine. My only problem with the second one is that I have

1663
02:16:45,640 --> 02:16:48,640
often very, very short chunks of gaming time.

1664
02:16:48,640 --> 02:16:52,640
Sure. And the gameplay, especially the combat, is much deeper.

1665
02:16:52,640 --> 02:16:56,640
So, I just honestly know nothing about it. There's like a lot more buttons and combos to have to remember

1666
02:16:56,640 --> 02:17:01,640
and when it's been three weeks since the last time you touched it and you only played for an hour and you forget the tutorial,

1667
02:17:01,640 --> 02:17:03,640
it can be a little bit daunting. It can be a pain.

1668
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:07,640
Interesting. That's what jumped in my head.

1669
02:17:07,640 --> 02:17:09,640
Not a nano? You're not a nano guy?

1670
02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:15,640
Are you just also really like nano? That almost feels like the Morrowind thing to me.

1671
02:17:15,640 --> 02:17:16,640
Slower.

1672
02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:21,640
RTS. So you're like, no.

1673
02:17:22,640 --> 02:17:24,640
Definitely an enjoyer, but I don't think it identifies.

1674
02:17:26,640 --> 02:17:30,640
Supreme Commander is the only game I ever got into, into, into,

1675
02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:35,640
and I would say that it and nano have in common the sort of

1676
02:17:35,640 --> 02:17:41,640
economic element that makes both of those games a little bit niche.

1677
02:17:45,640 --> 02:17:49,640
Man, that's tough. I have yours though. Slay the Spire, for sure.

1678
02:17:49,640 --> 02:17:52,640
Yeah, probably. I think if there was a game that Luke is...

1679
02:17:52,640 --> 02:17:55,640
Kind of like a deck building kind of guy. Yeah.

1680
02:17:55,640 --> 02:18:00,640
He's a min-maxer player.

1681
02:18:00,640 --> 02:18:03,640
And so you're easier though,

1682
02:18:03,640 --> 02:18:07,640
whereas I feel like my taste in games is kind of like my taste in music.

1683
02:18:07,640 --> 02:18:12,640
It's just eclectic. I think that's one of the reasons why Psychonauts popped in my head.

1684
02:18:12,640 --> 02:18:15,640
Sure. Yeah. You know what?

1685
02:18:15,640 --> 02:18:19,640
I would accept either of those answers because I truthfully could not come up with something for myself.

1686
02:18:19,640 --> 02:18:23,640
The more I think about nano, the better it is, but it's missing something for me.

1687
02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:24,640
I don't know what.

1688
02:18:26,640 --> 02:18:27,640
I don't know what either.

1689
02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:33,640
Not that Psychonauts is perfect. Like you said, I think yours is a little hard to place.

1690
02:18:33,640 --> 02:18:38,640
Yeah. I mean, actually, I shouldn't say the only game I ever got into with Supreme Commander

1691
02:18:38,640 --> 02:18:40,640
because I was really into Left 4 Dead

1692
02:18:41,640 --> 02:18:44,640
and played a ton of Team Fortress 2 back in the day as well.

1693
02:18:46,640 --> 02:18:48,640
I'd say if there was some...

1694
02:18:49,640 --> 02:18:52,640
If I could distill it down into...

1695
02:18:53,640 --> 02:18:57,640
If we could find the game that was like the ultimate 4v4,

1696
02:18:57,640 --> 02:19:02,640
like I like small team versus is like my favorite thing.

1697
02:19:02,640 --> 02:19:05,640
Which is, yeah, a lot of the ideas of tape to tape.

1698
02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:08,640
It's why I like Left 4 Dead. But I don't think it's tape to tape.

1699
02:19:08,640 --> 02:19:11,640
Yeah, I don't think it's tape to tape. Tape to tape is just what I'm super into right now.

1700
02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:15,640
Okay, Dan. Okay, hold on first. Luke, what do you think Dan's is?

1701
02:19:15,640 --> 02:19:21,640
This might be too easy, but like my answer might be almost too generic.

1702
02:19:22,640 --> 02:19:25,640
Which might make it incorrect. Hold on, I'm going to write mine first.

1703
02:19:25,640 --> 02:19:28,640
Hold on, hold on, so that I can prove. Sure.

1704
02:19:28,640 --> 02:19:31,640
Because I feel like we're going to say the same thing. We might.

1705
02:19:31,640 --> 02:19:34,640
Okay. Factorio? Yeah, I'd probably say that.

1706
02:19:35,640 --> 02:19:38,640
Yeah. Okay, Dan was too easy. Yeah.

1707
02:19:38,640 --> 02:19:43,640
Yeah, I figured it would be easy. But I mean, like some of them are crazy.

1708
02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:47,640
Like if I had to pigeonhole myself like that, then probably, but...

1709
02:19:47,640 --> 02:19:50,640
Yeah. Yeah. What's cool about Factorio is this...

1710
02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:54,640
It's not. It's one game, but it's also like you can kind of decide how to play it.

1711
02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:59,640
Like I could... I like that about games. It's like if you were a roller coaster tycoon.

1712
02:19:59,640 --> 02:20:02,640
Have I told you why I've never played Factorio?

1713
02:20:02,640 --> 02:20:05,640
Because you think you'd get way too into it. It scares me.

1714
02:20:05,640 --> 02:20:09,640
It should scare you. That's why I never subscribed to Wow.

1715
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:13,640
Yeah. I bought the box and I played my free month.

1716
02:20:13,640 --> 02:20:16,640
And A, I'm the cheapest c*** you'll ever know.

1717
02:20:16,640 --> 02:20:23,640
And the idea of subscribing to a game was just I decided then and there when I was a teenager

1718
02:20:23,640 --> 02:20:26,640
that I would never do it and I never have.

1719
02:20:26,640 --> 02:20:32,640
So that was part of it. And the other part was that that month is completely lost to my memory.

1720
02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:39,640
All I did is play as Mage Nuzulia and light things on fire.

1721
02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:42,640
And nothing else existed in my life.

1722
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:45,640
Yeah. You know, like how Siv has one more turn.

1723
02:20:45,640 --> 02:20:48,640
Yeah. Yeah. Factorio has...

1724
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:51,640
Oh, I just got to fix this one thing. Well, that's the Anno problem. Did you ever play Anno?

1725
02:20:51,640 --> 02:20:54,640
Yeah. I had to stop. Yeah.

1726
02:20:54,640 --> 02:21:00,640
Did you ever get the prompt that tells you you've been playing for eight hours or whatever?

1727
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:03,640
You should take a break. That's as high as it goes. Don't ask me how I know.

1728
02:21:03,640 --> 02:21:06,640
Yeah. Yeah, I have moments like that.

1729
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:11,640
I've had to like uninstall Factorio before just because it's so enthralling.

1730
02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:15,640
I beat Space Age and I lost the achievement by four hours.

1731
02:21:15,640 --> 02:21:19,640
There's an achievement for beating it in under 100 hours.

1732
02:21:19,640 --> 02:21:25,640
And I got 104 hours, which is pretty good, which is pretty good.

1733
02:21:25,640 --> 02:21:28,640
That's a rough achievement to have to try to redo.

1734
02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:32,640
Yeah. The original game, they had one as an achievement for beating it within eight.

1735
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:37,640
But most people either never finish it or take hundreds of hours to be able to finish it.

1736
02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:40,640
I will say, I really like Anno.

1737
02:21:40,640 --> 02:21:45,640
I feel like if I never played it with you, I would play it more.

1738
02:21:45,640 --> 02:21:48,640
Really? That's an interesting take.

1739
02:21:48,640 --> 02:21:55,640
Okay, hit me with that. I like co-op Anno so significantly more than I like single-player Anno.

1740
02:21:55,640 --> 02:22:02,640
That single-player Anno just, like, it's still enjoyable.

1741
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:05,640
Yeah. Well, its comparison is the thief of joy.

1742
02:22:05,640 --> 02:22:11,640
Yeah. Yeah. I know that I would love that game if I had first played it just by myself.

1743
02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:14,640
But it's a sick hangout game. Yeah.

1744
02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:17,640
Because you're, like, dialed, but also... You're focused on something, but you could have a conversation.

1745
02:22:17,640 --> 02:22:20,640
You can totally chat. Yeah. Yeah.

1746
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:23,640
Yeah, 100%. As we played Inscription, yeah, it's fantastic.

1747
02:22:23,640 --> 02:22:30,640
It's a really, really good game. Everything from that person, I don't remember their name, but everybody, that person or

1748
02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:34,640
that company or whatever it is that has made those games, I think it's like Pony, whatever,

1749
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:37,640
and Inscription and yada yada. They're all great.

1750
02:22:37,640 --> 02:22:42,640
I love all of them. Ars Technica reports that robots can lie now.

1751
02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:48,640
OpenAI's new chat GPT agent proved it can click through Cloudflare's anti-bot verification

1752
02:22:48,640 --> 02:22:54,640
on Friday. Chat GPT agent can perform multi-step tasks for users, and it explained, this step is

1753
02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:58,640
necessary to prove I'm not a bot as it clicked through the bot screening step.

1754
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:03,640
I just wanted to throw that in there. It's part of our just, like, AI roundup for this week.

1755
02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:11,640
This is another one. Showrunner lets you use AI to make your own TV shows, and I am terrified.

1756
02:23:11,640 --> 02:23:15,640
Are there some rough ones? The source is Biz, Business Insider.

1757
02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:18,640
It's paywald, so we'll just kind of give you guys the high-level stuff.

1758
02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:24,640
But after securing funding from Amazon's Alexa Fund, Fable Studio has launched showrunner.xyz,

1759
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:31,640
which allows subscribers to create their own animated shows or to build on others' existing

1760
02:23:31,640 --> 02:23:36,640
IP by inserting themselves as characters or adding scenes.

1761
02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:39,640
It's weird how many people on this front screen are recognizable.

1762
02:23:39,640 --> 02:23:45,640
Showrunner has at least one studio on board and claims to be in talks with Disney.

1763
02:23:49,640 --> 02:23:55,640
Said their CEO, Edward Satchi, if you're saying to yourself, that sounds really stupid.

1764
02:23:55,640 --> 02:23:59,640
You're not alone. Maybe nobody wants this and it won't work.

1765
02:24:00,640 --> 02:24:08,640
Okay. So I watched, I think I was looking at the pilot of Exit Valley.

1766
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:11,640
So that's the one on the top left.

1767
02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:14,640
I don't think, this is not clickable. Oh, okay.

1768
02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:16,640
How did I, how did I find that then?

1769
02:24:18,640 --> 02:24:24,640
Hmm. The prize. These, these all give me like, one of the problem with these is like,

1770
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:30,640
these all give me very strong vibes of shows that have or did exist.

1771
02:24:30,640 --> 02:24:34,640
Well, yeah. Which is the whole problem.

1772
02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:40,640
Uh, here we go. So here, uh, yeah, here it is.

1773
02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:44,640
Okay. So here, I think this is the, oh, I think this is the first, yeah.

1774
02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:46,640
Episode zero meet showrunner.

1775
02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:52,640
Uh, it's not funny. Uh, oh, is my audio on?

1776
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:55,640
Okay. Yeah. It's, it's not funny.

1777
02:24:55,640 --> 02:24:58,640
The animation is not good.

1778
02:25:03,640 --> 02:25:13,640
Yeah. Uh, I got through about two minutes of it before I just kind of couldn't take it anymore.

1779
02:25:13,640 --> 02:25:21,640
And terrifyingly, people are going to watch the fuck out of this.

1780
02:25:21,640 --> 02:25:27,640
People's like, oh, people's show watching habits are rough.

1781
02:25:27,640 --> 02:25:33,640
It's all just like the, the lowest level slop.

1782
02:25:33,640 --> 02:25:40,640
And look, I'm not judging. I watch, I watch just turn my brain off TV.

1783
02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:48,640
That is often its purpose. I mean, I get it. I've, I've, I think I've, I've talked before about how I'll usually have a show that is

1784
02:25:48,640 --> 02:25:51,640
like my go to sleep show. Yeah.

1785
02:25:51,640 --> 02:25:56,640
Uh, over the years, my, and, and I will literally have episodes of my go to sleep show that

1786
02:25:56,640 --> 02:26:01,640
I have, I won't say watched because typically I've only listened to them, um, a lot, a lot

1787
02:26:01,640 --> 02:26:07,640
of the time. Um, but I'll have episodes of my go to sleep show that I have literally listened to, you

1788
02:26:07,640 --> 02:26:10,640
know, in some cases, 25, 30, 50 times.

1789
02:26:10,640 --> 02:26:17,640
Easy. So my go to sleep shows over the years have been like Adventure Time, Rick and Morty.

1790
02:26:17,640 --> 02:26:25,640
Um, right now I'm finding 1987 DuckTales is an amazing balance of like, cause what I

1791
02:26:25,640 --> 02:26:31,240
need is something that grabs enough of my attention that I can't think about anything else, but

1792
02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:35,640
is not so interesting that it will keep me awake.

1793
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:39,640
Um, yeah. I mean, that makes sense.

1794
02:26:39,640 --> 02:26:44,640
I can't sleep to Futurama. Futurama has never been a sleep show for me, although I love Futurama.

1795
02:26:45,640 --> 02:26:49,640
And many years ago there was a, a period of time where I was having a really, really,

1796
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:58,640
really hard time falling asleep. And, uh, I didn't want to ruin that like album that I listened to in like emergency cases

1797
02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:05,640
to fall asleep. Right. Um, so I was taking a page out of your book and re listening to Star Wars audio books.

1798
02:27:05,640 --> 02:27:08,640
Oh, interesting. And that worked for me. Yeah.

1799
02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:13,640
I find that, that it's less important exactly what it is. Oh, Bob's Burgers was another big one for me.

1800
02:27:13,640 --> 02:27:16,640
Um, it's less important like what it is.

1801
02:27:16,640 --> 02:27:19,640
And it's more important that you already know what happens.

1802
02:27:19,640 --> 02:27:23,640
Yeah. And so you're not invested. It's not particularly interesting anymore.

1803
02:27:23,640 --> 02:27:29,640
It's interesting enough that like you'll pay some amount of attention to it, but it's not

1804
02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:33,640
interesting enough that you're super invested in what's happening next and like anticipating

1805
02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:39,640
things or whatever else. So your, your brain is distracted enough that it can go asleep, but not so distracted that

1806
02:27:39,640 --> 02:27:42,640
it wants to stay up. So this is not going to work for me.

1807
02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:45,640
It is boring.

1808
02:27:45,640 --> 02:27:49,640
So there's that, but I think it's too boring from what I've seen so far.

1809
02:27:49,640 --> 02:27:53,640
For other people as well. For, no, no, it's too boring for me to, um,

1810
02:27:53,640 --> 02:27:56,640
Oh, gotcha. For me to focus on it. Yeah.

1811
02:27:56,640 --> 02:28:02,840
Enough. So, so I have not been able to find a purpose for any of the, any for the, the one little

1812
02:28:02,840 --> 02:28:11,640
bit of generated content that I've seen from show runners so far, but I am fearful that

1813
02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:18,640
we're just going to completely skip the step where AI replaces writers and, you know, real

1814
02:28:18,640 --> 02:28:24,640
actors and producers actually create the content still and we're going to go straight to AI

1815
02:28:24,640 --> 02:28:29,640
just generates the entire finished product and people lap it up from a slot bucket.

1816
02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:33,640
Dude, waiting, waiting through this is going to be actually very difficult.

1817
02:28:33,640 --> 02:28:40,640
We had a, we had a situation. I was at a family gathering for Emma the other day and some of the kids that were there

1818
02:28:40,640 --> 02:28:47,640
had these like toy things where they were like amorphous kind of people blobs and there

1819
02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:50,640
was magnets on the end of their like hands and feet.

1820
02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:53,640
That's cool. Um, and you could connect them together and whatever else.

1821
02:28:53,640 --> 02:29:00,640
And one of the kids put them up on the fridge, feet down, all leaning out, holding hands

1822
02:29:00,640 --> 02:29:06,640
in a circle. Oh, that's cool. And they're, they're multicolored and it made me think of a logo that I had sworn I had

1823
02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:08,640
seen before. UNICEF.

1824
02:29:09,640 --> 02:29:13,640
And I thought UNICEF. That's so interesting.

1825
02:29:13,640 --> 02:29:16,640
Okay. Maybe that's what it is. I don't know.

1826
02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:19,640
But either way, I was trying to think of this logo where there was a globe in the middle

1827
02:29:19,640 --> 02:29:22,640
and the people were standing all around it holding hands.

1828
02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:25,640
I don't think that's a logo. I just think that's a thing that's been done a lot of times.

1829
02:29:25,640 --> 02:29:31,640
Like my grade seven class sweatshirt had that's all standing around the globe.

1830
02:29:31,640 --> 02:29:35,640
Sure. Yeah. So I, but I was trying to think of this thing and then I mentioned the concept to a

1831
02:29:35,640 --> 02:29:40,640
bunch of people in the room and they're like, Oh yeah. And a couple of people said UNICEF, which I thought was interesting, but then the UNICEF

1832
02:29:40,640 --> 02:29:47,640
logo doesn't look like that at all. But either way, so we were trying to look it up online and whether it exists or not,

1833
02:29:47,640 --> 02:29:51,640
or whether it's just a commonly used thing like you were saying, all we could get was

1834
02:29:51,640 --> 02:29:56,640
just AI slop output of like, here's the logo you're looking for.

1835
02:29:56,640 --> 02:30:00,640
Here's this generated thing. It was like very difficult.

1836
02:30:00,640 --> 02:30:02,640
Hands across America. It's not hands across America.

1837
02:30:03,640 --> 02:30:06,640
As a Canadian, I had never seen the hands across America logo.

1838
02:30:06,640 --> 02:30:12,640
I found it when we were trying to find this. It was definitely not that that I'm thinking of, but it all we could find.

1839
02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:19,640
Yeah. Was generated images. And I was like, man, that was honestly spooky for me because stuff like this, this

1840
02:30:19,640 --> 02:30:24,640
shown on her thing, like the ability to just mass output garbage, the signal, the

1841
02:30:24,640 --> 02:30:28,640
noise is going to be really brutal on actual real information.

1842
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:30,640
Yep. Hey,

1843
02:30:31,640 --> 02:30:34,640
want to play a garbage game? Yeah.

1844
02:30:34,640 --> 02:30:43,640
I don't technically know that it's bad, but this was created in response to our T-shirt

1845
02:30:43,640 --> 02:30:48,640
launch from, was it last week or the week before, the cute little bread sourced T-shirt?

1846
02:30:48,640 --> 02:30:54,640
Hey Dan, can you point your camera at it? Just for, yeah, just it's right behind Dan.

1847
02:30:54,640 --> 02:30:57,640
Over your left shoulder. Yeah, there it is. Look how cute it is.

1848
02:30:57,640 --> 02:31:02,640
I barely see it from there. That's the one with the cute little heart and the bread sourced.

1849
02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:07,640
And Luke was like, yeah, this would be a cooler shirt even if there was a, if it was a character

1850
02:31:07,640 --> 02:31:12,640
from a game. So, so, um, yeah.

1851
02:31:12,640 --> 02:31:15,640
Levios 3114 made a game.

1852
02:31:15,640 --> 02:31:18,640
Um, is it Leviosa? Sure.

1853
02:31:18,640 --> 02:31:21,640
Kidding. Kidding.

1854
02:31:21,640 --> 02:31:24,640
I can't believe it.

1855
02:31:24,640 --> 02:31:30,640
All right. So W is up, S is down is, oh, you're already getting ahead of me.

1856
02:31:30,640 --> 02:31:33,640
I haven't even tried it yet. I'm just messing around. Okay.

1857
02:31:33,640 --> 02:31:37,640
E is interact and then arrow up and down to retract neck.

1858
02:31:37,640 --> 02:31:42,640
I don't know. Okay. If retract neck is going to be a natural mechanism in the game.

1859
02:31:42,640 --> 02:31:45,640
Oh, it's made in Godot. Hell yeah.

1860
02:31:45,640 --> 02:31:48,640
Let's go. Yeah, I like that part. It's the best part.

1861
02:31:48,640 --> 02:31:51,640
Oh, wait, there's an up thing.

1862
02:31:51,640 --> 02:31:59,640
Okay. There doesn't appear to be any reason to have the neck ever smaller.

1863
02:31:59,640 --> 02:32:05,640
Or bigger. Okay. Well, that was a problem.

1864
02:32:05,640 --> 02:32:08,640
So what is the purpose of the game?

1865
02:32:08,640 --> 02:32:12,640
Exactly. Well, I see a counter going up when I collect objects.

1866
02:32:12,640 --> 02:32:15,640
Oh, those spikes don't seem to actually kill you. Okay.

1867
02:32:15,640 --> 02:32:18,640
So that's something. You could avoid them for fun.

1868
02:32:18,640 --> 02:32:22,640
These are just upside down spikes. Is this water?

1869
02:32:22,640 --> 02:32:25,640
I am underwater. Look at me being underwater.

1870
02:32:25,640 --> 02:32:29,640
Okay. So they never said that it was a good game.

1871
02:32:29,640 --> 02:32:33,640
Okay. So the neck, yeah, the neck goes up.

1872
02:32:33,640 --> 02:32:36,640
Okay. My neck is no longer up. Does the neck growing up do anything?

1873
02:32:36,640 --> 02:32:39,640
Maybe I'll eat these leaves. Nope.

1874
02:32:39,640 --> 02:32:42,640
I try to eat the leaves. The spikes don't do anything. So that's something.

1875
02:32:42,640 --> 02:32:46,640
I have 10 objects though. So that's something as well.

1876
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:51,640
I'm going to go this way. Oh, I'm going to find lots of, I'm going to find all the objects.

1877
02:32:51,640 --> 02:32:54,640
Oh, I have 43 objects. Nice.

1878
02:32:54,640 --> 02:32:57,640
Go Linus. Oh, I'm home.

1879
02:32:57,640 --> 02:33:02,640
Oh, okay. Maybe in my neck will be, I will go off the cliff at my home.

1880
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:05,640
All right. Well, there you go.

1881
02:33:05,640 --> 02:33:08,640
You got your wish loop. Heck yeah. How many objects did you get?

1882
02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:12,640
43. 43. Oh, nice.

1883
02:33:12,640 --> 02:33:16,640
Good job. You succeeded. I got so many objects, dude.

1884
02:33:16,640 --> 02:33:19,640
Yep. But I finished. I got home first though.

1885
02:33:19,640 --> 02:33:22,640
So, you know. Is there? Nope.

1886
02:33:22,640 --> 02:33:25,640
Oh, wait. There's, oh, no, wait. Press E.

1887
02:33:25,640 --> 02:33:29,640
Oh. There you go. I forgot about interact.

1888
02:33:29,640 --> 02:33:32,640
Hey, it's the, yeah. Nice.

1889
02:33:32,640 --> 02:33:37,640
Nice. Nice. So that's the thing that happened.

1890
02:33:37,640 --> 02:33:40,640
Brett Soros the game. Well, I don't really win.

1891
02:33:40,640 --> 02:33:46,640
He told me how to win. It doesn't really count. The internet archive is now a US federal depository library.

1892
02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:52,640
Let's go. In a nutshell, that means it joins a network of more than 1,100 libraries that archive

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government documents and makes them available to the public.

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This does not mean the government gets any control over the archive.

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This is particularly important today because of all the things that the government is disappearing

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in the United States of America. Recognition as a library may also help the archive in ongoing copyright conflicts as

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some opponents claim the archive is an unlicensed digital copywriting and distribution business

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rather than a library. Our discussion question is, do you think the internet archive is a library?

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Why or why not? I do think it's a library. Yeah, me too.

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Cool. That was a quick conversation. Also this.

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I said why or why not? Damned AI stealing our credits.

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So our source is Emily Seddon who I was talking about how one of the reasons that PSU circuit

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is as sort of formulaic as it is, is because we are leaning on automated tools for editing.

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But I got this message from Emily Seddon from our editing team.

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She's one of our supervisors who said, hey, Lucas from the lab and I were talking about

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the Wanshoe clip about AI and PSU circuit and thought it'd be good to kind of clarify.

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The current process for making a whole PSU circuit is not what you conceptualized and

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stated was the goal and were told was how it worked.

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We realized it wasn't really feasible when it came to editing and making actually watchable

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content. So we want to reduce some confusion to those outside the process and hopefully to the audience

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as well because the post-production process is in no way automated or AI.

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I am the one solely responsible for editing every PSU circuit which includes generating

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the AI voiceover, curating and placing the B-roll footage, inputting and lining up the

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on-screen graphics, adjusting the timing, updating credits, exporting and implementing

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review fixes. There really isn't a way to automate this yet the way that people think.

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We tried it and it caused more issues and time delays than it was worth.

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There is a template that I made for Premiere but in terms of putting everything together

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and making presentable, it's all human. The AI just isn't quite there yet, not even for the voice.

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I often have to regenerate each variable line at least twice to get the right pronunciation

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and intonation. I'll link the standard operating procedure that I made for the other editors here too

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if you're interested in the details but I just wanted to clear that up.

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So yeah, it's pretty cool when I get told that a workflow is something to be clear not

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by Emily or Lucas. This was a miscommunication that happened with someone that I'm not going to name but

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I was told, not you, I was told that there were a lot of automation tools that were being

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used and that was helping to streamline the process and I might have made very different

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decisions about what the format of that content was if I'd known that it was going to be

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manually edited anyway.

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So that's interesting information that I very recently got.

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Thank you, Emily, for pointing that out.

1930
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That is very good whenever we say something that is not actually factually that...

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We should cry. I mean, especially...

1932
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Yeah. Sorry. That people internally raise issues and help to make sure that we're bringing you guys

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the most complete information possible.

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If anybody had done that at any point over the last year or before when we were developing

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all these workflows, that would have been great. That was not Emily's job at that time to bring that up at that time.

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So I'm extremely grateful that she's bringing it up now.

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I'm just a little irritated that it took this long to make its way to me.

1938
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But that was, again, I want to emphasize this as much as I possibly can, not Emily's fault

1939
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or Lucas or other more different Lucas.

1940
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Yeah, because it's not going to lie. I thought it worked the way you said.

1941
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Yep. So we may have to re-evaluate PSU circuit videos and sort of how that whole thing works,

1942
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but we'll figure it out.

1943
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To be clear, when I say re-evaluate, I don't mean we're going to stop making them.

1944
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I just mean, if we're just doing the work anyway, then maybe we should do a different

1945
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flow. Yeah, maybe. Because that was the whole idea.

1946
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A lot of the point for a lot of the steps are because it was assumed that it was happening

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a certain way.

1948
02:38:08,140 --> 02:38:11,640
This is why communication is key.

1949
02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:15,640
One of our topics is the Threadripper launch. I'm just going to collapse it because I don't care anymore.

1950
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At a certain point, it might literally actually just be faster to actually just have someone

1951
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line it because if she's going to sit there and have to regen and relish all these lines.

1952
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:26,640
Yeah, but that's the thing is people didn't tell me that. So that's a problem, huh?

1953
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1954
02:38:29,640 --> 02:38:34,640
Cool. Yeah, Dark Guy says a typical out-of-touch C-suite.

1955
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Got him. Got him. If only I had vision.

1956
02:38:40,640 --> 02:38:47,640
Oh, we have a Floatplane announcement and if you made it this far into the show, you

1957
02:38:47,640 --> 02:38:53,640
are in for a treat because we are going to be previewing the very beginning.

1958
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This is nuts. Of the first part of Scrapyard Wars 10.

1959
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And neither of us have seen it. You haven't seen this? I haven't seen any of it yet.

1960
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This is crazy. I will actually be doing my review of the first few minutes live.

1961
02:39:07,640 --> 02:39:10,640
Which seems nuts. Which does seem nuts, actually.

1962
02:39:10,640 --> 02:39:13,640
You've got some audio playing from your laptop right now.

1963
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You just want to try and stop that before we start playing links.

1964
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Oh. Yep. Apparently my last name is spelled wrong in the preview.

1965
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That's really funny. Oh, really? That's awesome.

1966
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No way. Wancho Bingo Chronified said that.

1967
02:39:27,640 --> 02:39:34,640
No way. So I want to talk through this first and then we're going to check it out.

1968
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So a lot of people praised the intro animation and Hoffman Wong, the lead editor for Scrapyard

1969
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Wars this year, wanted to highlight Robert from our team who is the youngest person we

1970
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have on staff. I don't even know. He was born past 2000, which is wild to me.

1971
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I think we have a few of those. Yeah.

1972
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He spent a lot of time on every animation slash graphic in the series.

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Watch video queue Dan. Do you know about this?

1974
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That is so cool.

1975
02:40:06,640 --> 02:40:19,640
Does it actually sound like that?

1976
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Okay. Okay. Cool.

1977
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:27,640
Well, it won't look like that in the actual video. It will look like that, but it won't sound like that.

1978
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Super cool. You guys might be the only one who heard it like that.

1979
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From Hoffman, Robert has been picking up a lot of motion graphics tasks in the barbershop,

1980
02:40:35,640 --> 02:40:39,640
and in the process of leveling up his After Effects skills, he's learned how to rig characters

1981
02:40:39,640 --> 02:40:42,640
and use those new skills to create an impressive intro for this year's Scrapyard Wars.

1982
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That was my first preview of it. I haven't seen any of this yet.

1983
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Scrapyard Wars comes out next Friday early for float playing audience members, so be

1984
02:40:51,640 --> 02:40:56,640
sure to subscribe to get early access and extras for each episode.

1985
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There's a lot of content, and not all of it can make the YouTube cut.

1986
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While you're there, check out the one year anniversary of Why Is When Late, which was

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02:41:04,640 --> 02:41:08,640
why I was wearing the hat during the pre-show.

1988
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How many times have you lost now? Don't worry about it.

1989
02:41:12,640 --> 02:41:16,640
And you can also check out Alex Dix Meet the Team, which if you want to apply to be

1990
02:41:16,640 --> 02:41:19,640
one of our logistics people, we are hiring.

1991
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He's going to lay out what he looks for, and he's the manager for that department,

1992
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I believe, supervisor. Manager.

1993
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Alex Dix. There's also a lot of other roles up.

1994
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Check it out. Oh, yeah, here. There's so many.

1995
02:41:33,640 --> 02:41:36,640
We've got lots. There's a lot. Recession what?

1996
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Recession. Yeah. We're hiring.

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Let's go, boys. Okay. You ready?

1998
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Yeah.

1999
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So I think at the time of filming what I'm assuming is going to be the first thing in

2000
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:03,640
here, I had been awake for at that point in time.

2001
02:42:03,640 --> 02:42:06,640
I think it's 25 hours. Nice.

2002
02:42:06,640 --> 02:42:09,640
I'm just putting that out there. Okay.

2003
02:42:09,640 --> 02:42:16,640
Because I skipped forward and saw a couple frames and yeah, I look pretty bad.

2004
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Yeah. Like death. Yeah.

2005
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Okay. All right. All right.

2006
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This is it. So this is frame. This is frame.

2007
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I owe. So we use this to like leave comments and stuff on not yet finished videos.

2008
02:42:31,640 --> 02:42:34,640
Those ballers. Okay. We ready?

2009
02:42:34,640 --> 02:42:37,640
Mm-hmm. Do I get to hear it? Yep.

2010
02:42:37,640 --> 02:42:40,640
I can't hear. I can't hear. Oh, you stopped it.

2011
02:42:40,640 --> 02:42:43,640
Well, yeah, I couldn't hear at any point. Play it.

2012
02:42:43,640 --> 02:42:46,640
This is going to be the big. Oh, it sounds so bad. It's going to sound like that for you.

2013
02:42:46,640 --> 02:42:49,640
I think unfortunately. Oh, okay. But they're fine.

2014
02:42:49,640 --> 02:42:52,640
Yeah. As long as they're fine. Okay.

2015
02:42:52,640 --> 02:42:55,640
If they're fine, I'm fine. Okay. So they're good.

2016
02:42:55,640 --> 02:42:58,640
I'm just checking now. Yeah. If they're good, I'm good.

2017
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:01,640
They say it seemed fine. If they weren't all complaining, then it's probably fine.

2018
02:43:01,640 --> 02:43:04,640
They would be complaining immediately. Okay. All right.

2019
02:43:04,640 --> 02:43:15,640
Here we go. You ready? I hate to do this to us, but then can you turn up our gain a little bit because I can

2020
02:43:15,640 --> 02:43:18,640
like barely hear it. Yep. This is going to be the biggest.

2021
02:43:18,640 --> 02:43:29,640
Scrap your words. Ever. See, normally we build a PC, but this time we build a PC and we transform a completely

2022
02:43:29,640 --> 02:43:35,140
empty room into an epic gaming movie watching paradise.

2023
02:43:35,140 --> 02:43:38,640
Our budget is $1,400. That's going to be easy.

2024
02:43:38,640 --> 02:43:45,000
That's a lot of money. Well, it sounds like a lot of money until you realize that our judges will be evaluating

2025
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:48,160
more than just how many FPS we get.

2026
02:43:48,160 --> 02:43:52,120
They're going to be looking at the gaming experience, the movie experience, and yes,

2027
02:43:52,120 --> 02:44:01,080
even the vibes. Meaning, if we fall short in any key area, display, acoustics, or even decor, that's

2028
02:44:01,080 --> 02:44:06,240
the GG. Although the scope is bigger than ever, the rules are mostly the same.

2029
02:44:06,240 --> 02:44:12,160
No using our influence or connections for deals. We're only allowed to message and pick up items during the agreed upon hours and we

2030
02:44:12,160 --> 02:44:16,360
can only use parts and peripherals that we buy using our budget.

2031
02:44:16,360 --> 02:44:20,840
Let's check out these rooms. This really isn't much to work with, is it?

2032
02:44:20,840 --> 02:44:24,720
No, it's very small. And for decor.

2033
02:44:24,720 --> 02:44:29,480
Dude. It's going to be a good season. It's going to be awesome.

2034
02:44:29,480 --> 02:44:38,640
It's going to be a great season. I'm already just like, we're a minute in and I feel like so much has happened.

2035
02:44:38,640 --> 02:44:43,520
The before and after of these rooms are wild.

2036
02:44:43,520 --> 02:44:56,160
No spoilers. No spoilers. I just, having seen the blank room, it's just, it's kind of stunning to me.

2037
02:44:56,160 --> 02:45:01,160
It's going to be a great season. Don't go past five minutes.

2038
02:45:01,160 --> 02:45:03,160
Don't do it. Oh.

2039
02:45:04,160 --> 02:45:08,160
Yeah. That's a problem. I want to take that down.

2040
02:45:08,160 --> 02:45:11,160
Yep. Can you deal with that, Dan?

2041
02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:14,160
Uh-huh. Thanks. Cool.

2042
02:45:14,160 --> 02:45:24,480
Good chat. I think that's as much as we're going to watch for now, but next week, Friday, the first

2043
02:45:24,480 --> 02:45:30,840
episode will be up and on Floatplane and you get early access.

2044
02:45:30,840 --> 02:45:36,720
So now is a perfect time to subscribe to Floatplane at LMG.GG slash Floatplane.

2045
02:45:36,720 --> 02:45:39,720
Hey, Luke. What's up? Oh, wait.

2046
02:45:39,720 --> 02:45:42,720
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

2047
02:45:42,720 --> 02:45:45,720
Willing spy said, do the intro. He worked so hard. Okay.

2048
02:45:45,720 --> 02:45:48,720
You know what? Let's do the intro. Okay.

2049
02:45:48,720 --> 02:45:55,840
So here's the, here's the coin flip, which is sort of a random coin flip.

2050
02:45:55,840 --> 02:45:58,960
It was more of a metal flip. Okay.

2051
02:45:58,960 --> 02:46:04,960
To our sponsor.

2052
02:46:04,960 --> 02:46:24,520
How does the draft work?

2053
02:46:24,520 --> 02:46:27,520
Is it him? Me? Me?

2054
02:46:28,080 --> 02:46:31,320
That is pretty awesome. That's pretty sick. Yeah.

2055
02:46:31,320 --> 02:46:40,800
That's pretty sick. I actually love the aesthetic. It has a very like, uh, like early 2000s, new grounds almost kind of like, uh, but then

2056
02:46:40,800 --> 02:46:48,440
I like the really flat kind of, it reminds me of like, uh, material design, like it,

2057
02:46:48,440 --> 02:46:54,520
dude, uh, I don't think that I could be more excited for this season.

2058
02:46:54,520 --> 02:47:02,040
Yeah. Yeah. I think this has, uh, serious potential to be the best one.

2059
02:47:02,040 --> 02:47:08,160
Oh, dude. It always, it always like, you never really know until you see the edits, but I think

2060
02:47:08,160 --> 02:47:12,640
it's got potential for sure. 100%. I'm, I'm super excited.

2061
02:47:12,640 --> 02:47:17,960
Yeah. Um, wow. Is that it for topics today?

2062
02:47:17,960 --> 02:47:23,040
There was the time I was in a movie. Uh, yeah.

2063
02:47:23,040 --> 02:47:27,920
Let's talk about that. Well, I don't know how much I want to talk about that because I was actually kind of

2064
02:47:27,920 --> 02:47:31,760
thinking maybe I'd like make a video about that.

2065
02:47:33,760 --> 02:47:37,280
Yeah. It, it was something.

2066
02:47:37,280 --> 02:47:41,960
It was, it was, uh, so, I mean, we could, we could recognize it, but not talk about

2067
02:47:41,960 --> 02:47:44,960
it too much. Yeah. Because people did point it out on the subreddit.

2068
02:47:44,960 --> 02:47:50,360
So there was, um, there was a subreddit post. I guess we can leave, we can, we can basically just point out that.

2069
02:47:50,360 --> 02:47:55,440
I'm trying to find it crying out loud. Why is the search so bad?

2070
02:47:55,440 --> 02:48:02,000
Hello? Like this is ridiculous.

2071
02:48:02,000 --> 02:48:05,000
I can, oh, here it is. Here it is. Here it is.

2072
02:48:05,000 --> 02:48:08,000
Why is it at the bottom? Okay. Well, anyway, check this out.

2073
02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:16,080
Check this out. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

2074
02:48:16,080 --> 02:48:20,160
higher billing, the nice cube who's on the poster, not, that's an error.

2075
02:48:20,160 --> 02:48:30,600
So, um, here's the thing. Remember when like a billion years ago, I alluded to being in a movie that was like

2076
02:48:30,600 --> 02:48:41,160
in post-production and then just like, um, nothing ever sort of came of it?

2077
02:48:41,160 --> 02:48:46,080
This is that movie, except for one small problem.

2078
02:48:46,080 --> 02:48:52,640
A week before the movie came out, I got an email informing me that I am no longer in

2079
02:48:52,640 --> 02:49:00,400
it, which made it all the more awkward when it came out and I was listed as a supporting

2080
02:49:00,400 --> 02:49:04,000
actor in the credits. What is it called though?

2081
02:49:04,000 --> 02:49:07,000
War of Worlds? War of the Worlds. War of the Worlds.

2082
02:49:07,000 --> 02:49:12,560
Yeah, it's like kind of a, well, I don't actually know exactly what it is anymore because it

2083
02:49:12,560 --> 02:49:19,120
was something and then obviously whatever lines I read, unless I, it's possible I was

2084
02:49:19,120 --> 02:49:25,440
simply recast, that's entirely possible, it's also possible that whatever lines I had are

2085
02:49:25,440 --> 02:49:32,960
no longer in the movie, which I think, um, oh yeah, you, you were, you read the script.

2086
02:49:32,960 --> 02:49:37,600
There's a lot we could say. There's, okay, so that's the thing.

2087
02:49:37,600 --> 02:49:40,640
I have to figure out what we can say.

2088
02:49:40,640 --> 02:49:45,520
Yeah. Cause the thing is like, I'm not, I'm not looking to, I don't want to get anybody into

2089
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trouble. Like on the one hand, like I think that, you know, there's, there's the, there's, there's

2090
02:49:54,480 --> 02:50:00,640
a bit of a gulf between what you like technically are allowed to say and what you're probably

2091
02:50:00,640 --> 02:50:06,680
allowed to say. And I'm going to figure out how to get as close to here as we can.

2092
02:50:06,680 --> 02:50:11,320
And it should be, it should be, it should be pretty, it should be pretty okay.

2093
02:50:11,320 --> 02:50:17,200
There are definitely going to be some things that we can't talk about, but some of the

2094
02:50:17,200 --> 02:50:28,520
stuff should be, should be fine. Like, um, the fact that we were asked to do some like kind of technical advisory work

2095
02:50:28,520 --> 02:50:33,600
to, to help make sure that like, you know, anything to do with hacking or whatever else

2096
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wasn't too, you know, outlandish.

2097
02:50:38,680 --> 02:50:46,040
What I will say though, is that whatever advice we provided, I have not seen the movie.

2098
02:50:46,040 --> 02:50:54,240
I want to make that abundantly clear right now. So anything I'm saying comes from a place of I have not seen this movie, um, whatever

2099
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advice we provided, whatever lines I read clearly didn't happen.

2100
02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:05,440
So if you guys see anything in this movie, we didn't know about it.

2101
02:51:05,440 --> 02:51:08,840
We didn't see it. We didn't advise on it.

2102
02:51:08,840 --> 02:51:15,360
At some point, I think I asked them to take me out of the credits as like a technical

2103
02:51:15,360 --> 02:51:18,600
advisor because they wouldn't, well, hold on.

2104
02:51:18,600 --> 02:51:23,800
I don't know. Yeah. I can say what I said that I know for sure.

2105
02:51:23,800 --> 02:51:29,880
Yeah. Um, any who, yeah.

2106
02:51:29,880 --> 02:51:32,880
So it's finally out.

2107
02:51:32,880 --> 02:51:38,040
Uh, I'm just, I'm just going to keep just getting a little bit.

2108
02:51:38,040 --> 02:51:41,040
I don't know. That's as far as I can go. Okay.

2109
02:51:41,040 --> 02:51:46,480
Well, that's not a good sign. Um, huh.

2110
02:51:46,480 --> 02:51:50,320
Rest assured says you should watch it.

2111
02:51:50,320 --> 02:51:54,640
I think I'd rather make the video before I watch it.

2112
02:51:54,640 --> 02:51:59,660
I just want to talk about the experience because whether I'm actually in the, in the

2113
02:51:59,660 --> 02:52:04,440
finished film or not, it was a really, it was a really unique experience.

2114
02:52:04,440 --> 02:52:09,960
It was something that I didn't do for the money. Um, like I wasn't paid very much.

2115
02:52:09,960 --> 02:52:15,040
Um, I just, I just did it because it was kind of something to tick off the bucket list.

2116
02:52:15,040 --> 02:52:23,880
So even if I'm not in the final cut, I did, you know, act in a scene with ice cube sort

2117
02:52:23,880 --> 02:52:27,200
of, it was shot over, it was shot over COVID.

2118
02:52:27,200 --> 02:52:34,760
Yeah. And it was, I think it was before he said a lot of the stuff that he said.

2119
02:52:34,760 --> 02:52:39,720
So you know, oh, I don't even, oh yeah. Oh, I have no idea.

2120
02:52:39,720 --> 02:52:42,720
Oh yeah. Sounds good. I have no clue.

2121
02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:46,320
This was like five years ago. Okay. Yeah.

2122
02:52:46,320 --> 02:52:50,120
Um, and like, so yeah, to be clear, it was COVID.

2123
02:52:50,120 --> 02:52:58,200
So like I was on a webcam. He was on a webcam, you know, like we were never in the same room, but I was technically

2124
02:52:58,200 --> 02:53:02,080
involved in a Hollywood production. Technically.

2125
02:53:02,080 --> 02:53:05,080
Apparently my mic is dying. Mic is dying?

2126
02:53:05,080 --> 02:53:08,080
Mic bad. No audio. Wow.

2127
02:53:08,080 --> 02:53:11,080
Audio. Ow. Okay.

2128
02:53:11,080 --> 02:53:14,080
Let me look at that. Did I fix it? It sounds fine to me.

2129
02:53:15,080 --> 02:53:18,080
Did I fix it? It sounds fine to me.

2130
02:53:18,080 --> 02:53:20,080
I'm hearing your mic and it's fine.

2131
02:53:23,080 --> 02:53:27,080
Oh, your mics. They're down on our topics.

2132
02:53:27,080 --> 02:53:29,080
Here is it.

2133
02:53:45,080 --> 02:53:48,080
Your phone? No, it's not my phone.

2134
02:54:15,080 --> 02:54:18,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2135
02:54:18,080 --> 02:54:21,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2136
02:54:21,080 --> 02:54:24,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2137
02:54:24,080 --> 02:54:27,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2138
02:54:27,080 --> 02:54:30,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2139
02:54:30,080 --> 02:54:33,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2140
02:54:33,080 --> 02:54:36,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2141
02:54:36,080 --> 02:54:39,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2142
02:54:40,080 --> 02:54:43,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2143
02:54:43,080 --> 02:54:46,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2144
02:54:46,080 --> 02:54:49,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2145
02:54:49,080 --> 02:54:52,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2146
02:54:52,080 --> 02:54:55,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2147
02:54:55,080 --> 02:54:58,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2148
02:54:58,080 --> 02:55:01,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2149
02:55:01,080 --> 02:55:04,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2150
02:55:04,080 --> 02:55:07,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2151
02:55:07,080 --> 02:55:10,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2152
02:55:10,080 --> 02:55:13,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2153
02:55:25,080 --> 02:55:28,080
Okay. Okay. Okay!

2154
02:55:28,080 --> 02:55:31,080
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2155
02:55:31,080 --> 02:55:34,080
Okay. Okay! Okay!

2156
02:55:34,080 --> 02:55:38,240
Okay! Okay, let's do some merch messages. It's time for After Dark.

2157
02:55:38,240 --> 02:55:40,680
Sorry about that, guys. Sorry, everyone.

2158
02:55:42,600 --> 02:55:46,280
Our sample rates got out of sync.

2159
02:55:46,280 --> 02:55:51,080
I hate it when that happens. It is awful. That is actually the worst.

2160
02:55:51,080 --> 02:55:53,120
They got out of sync and so we sunk.

2161
02:55:55,840 --> 02:55:59,600
That's why I disabled your speakers. Yep.

2162
02:55:59,600 --> 02:56:02,680
Wait, that's why? No, I just wanted to make a call back.

2163
02:56:02,680 --> 02:56:07,920
Oh, okay. Yeah, I was like, what? Where's my buttons?

2164
02:56:07,920 --> 02:56:09,440
Now I'm all flustered, sorry.

2165
02:56:15,280 --> 02:56:18,640
Magenta. Nice. After Dark.

2166
02:56:18,640 --> 02:56:22,120
Nice. Merch messages. Nice.

2167
02:56:22,120 --> 02:56:25,240
Dear DLL, I'm curious how your team navigates,

2168
02:56:25,240 --> 02:56:29,160
balancing the most fun outlandish ideas while still keeping videos reasonable

2169
02:56:29,160 --> 02:56:32,680
and cost-effective to produce. Me too.

2170
02:56:32,680 --> 02:56:40,680
It's tough. I mean, I think we bring both perspectives to the table,

2171
02:56:40,680 --> 02:56:43,680
right, through the team of people

2172
02:56:43,680 --> 02:56:49,680
that are responsible for bringing these things to life. Like, the writer's meeting is full of all kinds of wacky, zany ideas,

2173
02:56:49,680 --> 02:56:53,680
and obviously it has to be grounded in the reality

2174
02:56:53,680 --> 02:56:58,680
of actually producing this stuff on a budget that we can afford.

2175
02:56:58,680 --> 02:57:01,680
Sometimes we do make loss-leader content

2176
02:57:01,680 --> 02:57:06,680
that is just designed from the ground up,

2177
02:57:06,680 --> 02:57:09,680
knowing that we're going to lose money on it just because we wanted to do something cool,

2178
02:57:09,680 --> 02:57:12,680
whether that's because we just wanted to,

2179
02:57:12,680 --> 02:57:15,680
because it was fun, or whether that's because we think it's a prestige piece

2180
02:57:15,680 --> 02:57:21,680
for the channel, or whether... I mean, really, those are the only two main reasons.

2181
02:57:21,680 --> 02:57:26,680
Or if we think it could be an investment in people being really interested in that content in the future,

2182
02:57:26,680 --> 02:57:29,680
I don't think we've really ever done anything like that, though.

2183
02:57:29,680 --> 02:57:32,680
And then, yeah, the keeping things cost-effective

2184
02:57:32,680 --> 02:57:35,680
just comes down to that we've always, from day one,

2185
02:57:35,680 --> 02:57:40,680
tried to run this as a sustainable business that doesn't need to take outside capital

2186
02:57:40,680 --> 02:57:43,680
from investors or private equity.

2187
02:57:45,680 --> 02:57:50,680
Sometimes even things that you might expect will end up being a loss on the content creation side.

2188
02:57:50,680 --> 02:57:54,680
Sometimes a video will just slap. Yeah, we've gotten lucky before.

2189
02:57:54,680 --> 02:57:57,680
Like, building that PC in that tech mall all that time ago,

2190
02:57:57,680 --> 02:58:01,680
I didn't think that would... Of course you'd think that would be a loss. I didn't think that was going to perform the way it did.

2191
02:58:01,680 --> 02:58:04,680
And then it just... Was a banger. Went super hard.

2192
02:58:04,680 --> 02:58:09,680
Yep. That's great. Sometimes the things that the audience might expect would be a loss.

2193
02:58:09,680 --> 02:58:12,680
Like the fire truck. We might not, because there was a plan.

2194
02:58:12,680 --> 02:58:15,680
We knew we were going to make money on the fire truck April Fools.

2195
02:58:15,680 --> 02:58:21,680
Yep. But then that's not necessarily the goal every April Fools.

2196
02:58:21,680 --> 02:58:28,680
No. It wasn't with the house. The office moved one to the house we lost a flip ton of money on.

2197
02:58:28,680 --> 02:58:31,680
That thing I showed you that Jaden's working on

2198
02:58:31,680 --> 02:58:34,680
cost us very little.

2199
02:58:36,680 --> 02:58:39,680
I think it would be really cool if we did a synchronized thing.

2200
02:58:39,680 --> 02:58:43,680
It doesn't necessarily have to be with LTT. I'm sure you guys have your own idea.

2201
02:58:43,680 --> 02:58:47,680
But I'd love to do a synchronized thing with the store. I think that would be really cool.

2202
02:58:47,680 --> 02:58:51,680
That'd be pretty cool. Because the vibes are immaculate.

2203
02:58:51,680 --> 02:58:53,680
Oh. Goodness.

2204
02:58:56,680 --> 02:59:00,680
Yeah. I think doing a synchronized thing with the store would be awesome.

2205
02:59:01,680 --> 02:59:07,680
More. More. I saw the Fairphone 6 Gen 6 video today.

2206
02:59:07,680 --> 02:59:11,680
And I was wondering if you had any comments on the less exciting launch of it in the US.

2207
02:59:11,680 --> 02:59:16,680
Namely, only having the de-googled version officially at $900.

2208
02:59:16,680 --> 02:59:23,680
This is actually the first time hearing of that, which is a little frustrating given that I did shoot my ShortCircuit of it.

2209
02:59:23,680 --> 02:59:25,680
Oh. It's up.

2210
02:59:26,680 --> 02:59:28,680
I went up this morning.

2211
02:59:31,680 --> 02:59:36,680
Okay. Hopefully nobody's mad about the fact that I'm not talking about that.

2212
02:59:36,680 --> 02:59:39,680
I hate their naming scheme, by the way.

2213
02:59:39,680 --> 02:59:42,680
It's called Fairphone Gen 6.

2214
02:59:42,680 --> 02:59:46,680
So we went Fairphone, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Fairphone 4, Fairphone 5.

2215
02:59:46,680 --> 02:59:50,680
Fairphone Gen 6.

2216
02:59:50,680 --> 02:59:55,680
That needs to stop. The entire industry needs to get together and say,

2217
02:59:55,680 --> 02:59:59,680
hey, so this is really stupid. Can we all not do this anymore at all?

2218
02:59:59,680 --> 03:00:02,680
And then everyone needs to go, yeah, right? What was up with that?

2219
03:00:02,680 --> 03:00:13,680
And then that would be super cool. Other than that, it seems like a much more competent daily driver device with the same great benefits of Fairphone,

2220
03:00:13,680 --> 03:00:21,680
like the long software support, as well as the use of hopefully less harmful materials.

2221
03:00:21,680 --> 03:00:26,680
The software support one, though, is becoming less of an issue now that so many of the major handset makers

2222
03:00:26,680 --> 03:00:31,680
are committing to supporting their devices for six, seven years even.

2223
03:00:31,680 --> 03:00:40,680
Yeah, sorry. I just, I don't know much about the less exciting U.S. launch.

2224
03:00:40,680 --> 03:00:44,680
First time hearing of it.

2225
03:00:44,680 --> 03:00:49,680
I have a Steam Deck and an OG ROG Ally that has stopped working.

2226
03:00:49,680 --> 03:00:52,680
Should I get an Ally or an Ally X now?

2227
03:00:52,680 --> 03:00:57,680
Or do you think the price when performance of the Xbox ROG Ally is worth the wait?

2228
03:00:57,680 --> 03:01:00,680
Or a Legion Go, lol. I don't know.

2229
03:01:00,680 --> 03:01:03,680
I don't know exactly how it's going to shake out.

2230
03:01:03,680 --> 03:01:08,680
What I suspect is that it's going to be a very substantial performance upgrade

2231
03:01:08,680 --> 03:01:11,680
and also a substantial performance per watt upgrade,

2232
03:01:11,680 --> 03:01:18,680
but I've only been hands-on with the hardware for like three minutes playing a game.

2233
03:01:18,680 --> 03:01:21,680
To me, it's very interesting.

2234
03:01:21,680 --> 03:01:24,680
Has some version of Windows. Yeah. It's intriguing.

2235
03:01:24,680 --> 03:01:27,680
Very intriguing. That might be a reason for you to buy.

2236
03:01:27,680 --> 03:01:35,680
There might be a reason for you to not buy. The biggest reason for me to wait right now would be that we're clearly on the precipice

2237
03:01:35,680 --> 03:01:41,680
of a real next gen in mobile PC hardware.

2238
03:01:41,680 --> 03:01:48,680
And either the ROG Ally X to whatever they're calling it is going to be like the one

2239
03:01:48,680 --> 03:01:51,680
if you want to pony up for it.

2240
03:01:51,680 --> 03:01:58,680
Or what I'm kind of hoping for is that we'll see a second gen Steam Deck to go toe-to-toe with it.

2241
03:01:58,680 --> 03:02:03,680
That's sort of what I'm hoping for. Because Valve has never said, oh yeah, we're not going to do another Steam Deck.

2242
03:02:03,680 --> 03:02:08,680
What they've said is we're not going to do it until there's a clear generational leap in performance.

2243
03:02:08,680 --> 03:02:12,680
And I feel like we're getting there. I feel like we're getting real close.

2244
03:02:12,680 --> 03:02:17,680
I saw this really interesting article talking about how the PC handheld makers are.

2245
03:02:17,680 --> 03:02:21,680
They're missing the point by having these really expensive handheld gaming PCs.

2246
03:02:21,680 --> 03:02:25,680
But I feel like they were asking for something that's just not realistic.

2247
03:02:25,680 --> 03:02:29,680
They were like, yeah, they missed Valve's point. The leadership Valve was trying to take with the affordable price.

2248
03:02:29,680 --> 03:02:38,680
And it's like, yeah, but like Valve can only do that because they're subsidizing it with the 30% they take on Steam.

2249
03:02:38,680 --> 03:02:41,680
IA Neo doesn't have Steam.

2250
03:02:41,680 --> 03:02:53,680
They have to make on the hardware what Valve expects to make over the entire lifetime of that device being deployed.

2251
03:02:53,680 --> 03:02:56,680
Yeah.

2252
03:02:56,680 --> 03:02:59,680
I can read the next one. It's for me. Oh, I'll read it then.

2253
03:02:59,680 --> 03:03:03,680
Sure. Hey Luke, I convinced work to send me to DEF CON.

2254
03:03:03,680 --> 03:03:08,680
Any tips for a first time attendee? Also, what villages are you most interested in?

2255
03:03:08,680 --> 03:03:13,680
First off, congratulations on convincing your work to send you to DEF CON.

2256
03:03:13,680 --> 03:03:22,680
I'm not sure how you did that as someone who has been there before.

2257
03:03:22,680 --> 03:03:26,680
But nice. Sorry if your boss is watching.

2258
03:03:26,680 --> 03:03:37,680
There's like a much more business focus con that happens like right there at like almost the same time called Black Hat.

2259
03:03:37,680 --> 03:03:40,680
But DEF CON is cool. You'll have a good time.

2260
03:03:40,680 --> 03:03:51,680
What villages are you most interested in? Last time I hit the show floor for like 20 minutes and then went to a hotel room and worked on puzzles until the last hour of the show.

2261
03:03:52,680 --> 03:03:56,680
I did not clarify what the puzzles are. We didn't pay for your trip, did we?

2262
03:03:56,680 --> 03:03:59,680
No. Cool. Yeah, no. I took time off.

2263
03:03:59,680 --> 03:04:06,680
Carry on. Yeah, I did not think at all that I could make a business case for me going down there.

2264
03:04:06,680 --> 03:04:09,680
And given what I did the whole time, I was right.

2265
03:04:09,680 --> 03:04:14,680
They might have a different experience.

2266
03:04:14,680 --> 03:04:17,680
Security researchers can totally pull it off.

2267
03:04:17,680 --> 03:04:24,680
Yeah, saying pull it off in that sentence doesn't make it sound a ton more legit.

2268
03:04:24,680 --> 03:04:35,680
There are panels and stuff that are really cool. I have panels like on my NAS from pre-YouTube DEF CON that were like security based stuff that I thought was super interesting.

2269
03:04:35,680 --> 03:04:39,680
So I was interested in getting into the field. Like it's a thing.

2270
03:04:39,680 --> 03:04:43,680
I think most of the show is like fun and interesting stuff.

2271
03:04:43,680 --> 03:04:46,680
And like there's definitely some learning things.

2272
03:04:46,680 --> 03:04:49,680
Like there's the lockpicking village you can go to and there's like,

2273
03:04:49,680 --> 03:04:52,680
I thought it was kind of cool that they brought an actual like fence.

2274
03:04:52,680 --> 03:04:56,680
And the fence just had a whole bunch of different types of locks on it.

2275
03:04:56,680 --> 03:04:59,680
And you could sit there and practice with different lockpicks and stuff.

2276
03:04:59,680 --> 03:05:01,680
That was pretty neat.

2277
03:05:02,680 --> 03:05:06,680
But yeah, any tips for a first time attendee?

2278
03:05:06,680 --> 03:05:10,680
No, because I was in the building for like two total hours.

2279
03:05:11,680 --> 03:05:14,680
So sorry, I can't really say a ton. I had a blast.

2280
03:05:14,680 --> 03:05:24,680
It was really fun. It was really cool working with all the different people on the team that I was on and trying to compete with other people and do all that kind of stuff is a really cool experience.

2281
03:05:24,680 --> 03:05:32,680
And it is a legitimate DEF CON experience because during DEF CON there are all these like puzzle cracking CTF type of things going on.

2282
03:05:32,680 --> 03:05:37,680
And some of them you don't have to be on the show floor for by the time I actually started doing the puzzles.

2283
03:05:38,680 --> 03:05:44,680
A lot of people had gotten the things that you needed to get from the show floor itself already.

2284
03:05:44,680 --> 03:05:48,680
There was an element of that. But by the time I started that was already done.

2285
03:05:48,680 --> 03:05:52,680
So we just sat in the hotel room on laptops and worked.

2286
03:05:52,680 --> 03:06:00,680
But yeah, I would recommend at least, I'm going to recommend something I didn't do, but I had planned to do sample all the different areas.

2287
03:06:00,680 --> 03:06:03,680
Go hang out for like half an hour in each little area.

2288
03:06:03,680 --> 03:06:07,680
Don't get don't get don't do what I did and get too obsessed with like one thing.

2289
03:06:07,680 --> 03:06:10,680
Dacura says don't use random USB cables.

2290
03:06:10,680 --> 03:06:14,680
Good advice. Don't use random anything while you're there.

2291
03:06:14,680 --> 03:06:31,680
Although I did. I purposely brought an old pixel phone that had been left in a box not updated for a long time and refused updates and went there with an old not secured pixel phone and jumped on every single open Wi-Fi network.

2292
03:06:31,680 --> 03:06:39,680
I possibly could. The whole time I was there hoping that I would get intruded on never happened.

2293
03:06:39,680 --> 03:06:43,680
Well, I'm surprised actually me too. It's interesting.

2294
03:06:43,680 --> 03:06:47,680
Someone else at Theo was also doing the same thing.

2295
03:06:47,680 --> 03:06:53,680
We both came up with the same idea but didn't tell each other and he also didn't have anything happened.

2296
03:06:53,680 --> 03:06:56,680
Wow, no ponage. It was interesting. All right.

2297
03:06:56,680 --> 03:07:01,680
I'm not expecting someone to drop a zero day on like my random phone, but it wouldn't have been a zero day.

2298
03:07:01,680 --> 03:07:05,680
This was an ancient like multi year, no updates.

2299
03:07:05,680 --> 03:07:10,680
Android phone. Maybe you just seemed too juicy and too obvious like you were asking for it.

2300
03:07:10,680 --> 03:07:13,680
Maybe. All right. Hit me, Dan.

2301
03:07:13,680 --> 03:07:17,680
Hi, luck and Danana. I made the geared maker chip at open sauce.

2302
03:07:17,680 --> 03:07:20,680
That's cool. Did you read this? No, I can't remember.

2303
03:07:20,680 --> 03:07:23,680
Can you talk a little bit about your experience in favorite booths?

2304
03:07:23,680 --> 03:07:26,680
I loved the NASA booth. Dan also went.

2305
03:07:26,680 --> 03:07:30,680
I'm also interested in Dan's thoughts on this. The geared maker chip was cool.

2306
03:07:30,680 --> 03:07:37,680
I saw a few of those. Can you talk a little bit about your experience in your favorite booths?

2307
03:07:37,680 --> 03:07:45,680
I didn't see a huge amount of booths. I did go out of my way to make sure I went through the amateur rocketry section.

2308
03:07:45,680 --> 03:07:48,680
That was really cool. Seeing a bunch of like the school teams.

2309
03:07:48,680 --> 03:07:54,680
There was a kid there who had done a bunch of work making his own carbon fiber rockets

2310
03:07:54,680 --> 03:07:57,680
and like talking about the work that went into that and stuff.

2311
03:07:57,680 --> 03:08:00,680
I got to chat with him for a while, which was awesome. That's super cool.

2312
03:08:00,680 --> 03:08:03,680
I got a demo from one of the teams. That was an individual.

2313
03:08:03,680 --> 03:08:11,180
I got a demo from one of the teams on how they were working their fuel injectors and how

2314
03:08:11,180 --> 03:08:15,680
they were bringing the cost down for it and the machining that goes into that and the

2315
03:08:15,680 --> 03:08:18,680
trial and error that goes into that and all that kind of stuff. Really, really cool section.

2316
03:08:18,680 --> 03:08:24,680
I was happy I went to go through that. That was probably my favorite section in terms of interest.

2317
03:08:24,680 --> 03:08:28,680
I thought the most fun part was probably 4D Counter Strike.

2318
03:08:28,680 --> 03:08:33,680
It's fun watching you fiddle around with that.

2319
03:08:33,680 --> 03:08:38,680
It's very similar to the punishment thing that you guys did for Ludwig, where there

2320
03:08:38,680 --> 03:08:41,680
was a 1v1 setup of Counter Strike and I played against Tynan.

2321
03:08:41,680 --> 03:08:49,680
They had it so that all of the throwables, so the frag grenade, the incendiary, the smoke

2322
03:08:49,680 --> 03:08:54,680
and the decoy. I think the decoy did something, I don't remember.

2323
03:08:54,680 --> 03:08:59,280
If you threw a smoke grenade and then stood in the smoke, there was a leaf blower right

2324
03:08:59,280 --> 03:09:03,280
next to your head and the leaf blow would turn on if you were in the smoke and it would

2325
03:09:03,280 --> 03:09:08,680
just like blah, it's hard to hear and actually keep your eyes open and play properly and

2326
03:09:08,680 --> 03:09:14,280
stuff. If you stood in an incendiary, they had it work in reverse, so obviously they can't light

2327
03:09:14,280 --> 03:09:19,680
something on fire, but they would spray you with water.

2328
03:09:19,680 --> 03:09:24,680
There was water guns set up.

2329
03:09:24,680 --> 03:09:29,840
If you got hit by fragmentation from a frag grenade, there was a motor attached to your

2330
03:09:29,840 --> 03:09:33,680
monitor and your monitor would bounce all over the place.

2331
03:09:33,680 --> 03:09:36,680
It was actually like... That's pretty cool. It was pretty sweet.

2332
03:09:36,680 --> 03:09:40,400
It was fun to engage with.

2333
03:09:40,400 --> 03:09:44,000
It was really cool. I'm not going to necessarily say it was the most impressive thing there.

2334
03:09:44,000 --> 03:09:48,680
If you were going for impressiveness, there was a ton of really wild booths.

2335
03:09:48,680 --> 03:09:51,680
What was that? Printer? You're going to understand this more than me.

2336
03:09:51,680 --> 03:09:54,840
Oh, the one that went to space. Yeah.

2337
03:09:54,840 --> 03:10:03,400
Yeah. It's a printer that prints into Goop and it basically rotates the vial of Goop and then...

2338
03:10:03,400 --> 03:10:10,440
They shoot ultraviolet, I think? Yeah, something like that and it solidifies it as it spins, so you can do things in zero

2339
03:10:10,440 --> 03:10:16,480
gravity. You can create a 3D object, including with hollow insides.

2340
03:10:16,480 --> 03:10:25,000
Yeah, it just builds it as it rotates. You can create a swirling straw, like a spiraling straw, and it could actually be hollow on the

2341
03:10:25,000 --> 03:10:30,160
inside and you can do it in zero gravity and you can do it in Goop.

2342
03:10:30,160 --> 03:10:34,600
Didn't they make a glass out of it or something? Yeah, glass, diamonds, all that sort of stuff.

2343
03:10:34,600 --> 03:10:37,920
It's centered or something like that. Wild.

2344
03:10:37,920 --> 03:10:40,920
What is it actually... Do you remember what it's called? No, I do not.

2345
03:10:40,920 --> 03:10:45,600
But they did the thinking man, so thinking man and tube 3D printer would probably be a

2346
03:10:45,600 --> 03:10:51,080
good way to find out... Thinking man, tube 3D printer.

2347
03:10:51,080 --> 03:10:55,360
Yeah, they actually had one of the printers there that they had sent to space.

2348
03:10:55,360 --> 03:11:03,200
At least I think so. I don't know if we're going to be able to find this very easily, but it was really, really

2349
03:11:03,200 --> 03:11:07,880
cool.

2350
03:11:07,880 --> 03:11:11,560
Very, very impressive. Was it by made in space? I'm not sure.

2351
03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:20,800
Maybe it was.

2352
03:11:20,800 --> 03:11:28,240
I don't know. But it was awesome, it was very cool to see, and there was a lot of other really impressive

2353
03:11:28,240 --> 03:11:33,240
things as well. But I didn't see all of the booths, so I'm sure there was really cool stuff that I didn't

2354
03:11:33,240 --> 03:11:36,760
get to see. Cool. But it was great.

2355
03:11:37,760 --> 03:11:43,120
Yeah, that printer was quite a thing to behold.

2356
03:11:43,120 --> 03:11:46,840
Absolutely, yeah. But really just watching it happen was fascinating.

2357
03:11:46,840 --> 03:11:50,840
Oh yeah, it happens in real time, you see it spin and then this object just slowly appears.

2358
03:11:50,840 --> 03:11:55,440
You can just see, it's just goop, and there's clearly light on the goop, and then you start

2359
03:11:55,440 --> 03:11:58,600
to see like a shadow of the thing almost.

2360
03:11:58,600 --> 03:12:03,720
I don't really know how to describe it. Yeah, it's like a little tiny ghost of it appears inside, and then it just gets more

2361
03:12:03,720 --> 03:12:07,640
and more. And then it starts becoming more and more real. It's weird.

2362
03:12:07,640 --> 03:12:14,040
It's cool, but it's weird. And it's because as it rotates, the like video that they're playing essentially, it's being

2363
03:12:14,040 --> 03:12:17,360
projected onto it. So you know our CT scanner?

2364
03:12:17,360 --> 03:12:21,920
How that looks like it's pictures, then get recombined into a full image?

2365
03:12:21,920 --> 03:12:32,240
It's like the reverse of that. Like you play it a CT scanner video, and then the projector onto the gel surface.

2366
03:12:32,240 --> 03:12:36,880
And because of the video playing, exposure to that light concentrated on certain points

2367
03:12:36,880 --> 03:12:40,920
as it's spinning and changing axial lithography.

2368
03:12:40,920 --> 03:12:44,840
What now? Computed axial lithography.

2369
03:12:44,840 --> 03:12:52,600
You see Berkeley. Open Cal, there's also a GitHub repository as well.

2370
03:12:52,600 --> 03:12:57,840
Open Cal, it's open source layerless 3D printing, which is pretty sick.

2371
03:12:57,840 --> 03:13:03,560
So computed axial lithography, there's a 3D printing nerd video on it.

2372
03:13:03,560 --> 03:13:08,240
I'm looking at it right now. Yeah. Good luck, have fun.

2373
03:13:08,240 --> 03:13:12,440
Okay, cool. Yeah, this was nuts. Wanna hit me with another one?

2374
03:13:12,440 --> 03:13:18,040
Sure. Linus says he loves eating cereal for breakfast, but is cereal, if cereal is not available,

2375
03:13:18,040 --> 03:13:24,760
what are the breakfast foods do you like? Mine is eggs Benedict with pulled pork, sauteed green peppers, and home fries.

2376
03:13:24,760 --> 03:13:28,320
Not a big eggs guy, which makes it really tough.

2377
03:13:28,320 --> 03:13:32,360
I guess I like me a breakfast burrito is what I'll go for.

2378
03:13:32,360 --> 03:13:36,600
And I know they always have eggs in them, but I guess the burrito makes it palatable

2379
03:13:36,600 --> 03:13:43,880
for me. I also would never say no to a Belgian waffle with like fruit sauce on it, or ideally fresh

2380
03:13:43,880 --> 03:13:48,760
fruit and whipped cream.

2381
03:13:48,760 --> 03:13:56,080
Not really a breakfast guy. Honestly, the place where I eat breakfast most consistently is Taiwan, and it's cause

2382
03:13:56,080 --> 03:14:00,240
I'll go to like a family mart or a 7-Eleven and get a banana.

2383
03:14:00,240 --> 03:14:05,200
And they have a name, but I just lovingly call them the triangles, but I always forget

2384
03:14:05,200 --> 03:14:13,600
what they're actually called. Onigiri. Maybe that's it, but it's a triangle of seaweed with rice in the inside and then some like

2385
03:14:13,600 --> 03:14:16,800
meat or something else on the inside of that.

2386
03:14:16,800 --> 03:14:20,160
And you have to, you peel the plastic on the outside, you pull the plastic off and that

2387
03:14:20,160 --> 03:14:25,720
allows the seaweed and the rice to touch each other. So the seaweed stays fresh while it's in the packaging.

2388
03:14:25,720 --> 03:14:28,720
That's cool. Musubi. Musubi.

2389
03:14:28,720 --> 03:14:31,840
Musubi. I don't think I've heard it called that before.

2390
03:14:31,840 --> 03:14:35,680
I think I just ate soup dumplings for breakfast this year.

2391
03:14:35,680 --> 03:14:38,720
It's not really breakfast, but not really. I'll do it.

2392
03:14:38,720 --> 03:14:41,720
That sounds awesome. Let me see. All right.

2393
03:14:41,720 --> 03:14:48,120
Hit me. Last one I got for you tonight. With Google having AI overviews that divert traffic away from sites where the info comes

2394
03:14:48,120 --> 03:14:54,800
from but still links there. How does that compare to Wikipedia compiling info on a page with links to sources?

2395
03:14:54,800 --> 03:15:00,240
So I think the difference is that Wikipedia is not compiling info on a page.

2396
03:15:00,240 --> 03:15:07,520
They are using the page as a source, but Wikipedia is compiling information on a subject.

2397
03:15:07,520 --> 03:15:13,960
Whereas the AI overview, a lot of the time, it'll reference multiple sources in like a

2398
03:15:13,960 --> 03:15:20,920
bibliography, but looking at the copy of the AI overview versus the page that it is taking

2399
03:15:20,920 --> 03:15:27,920
it from. A lot of the time, there's enough verbatim there that I think there's far less of an

2400
03:15:27,920 --> 03:15:36,080
argument to be made that it's like a fair use sort of transformative use of it.

2401
03:15:36,080 --> 03:15:43,040
There's also the fact that Wikipedia is happening by hand and AI is automated.

2402
03:15:43,040 --> 03:15:47,680
This actually reminds me a lot of the argument that people made back when during the whole

2403
03:15:47,680 --> 03:15:55,000
like ad block piracy thing where they'd go, well Linus, is it piracy to get up and walk

2404
03:15:55,000 --> 03:16:05,000
away from your computer QED? Well, no, it's the automation that makes it a circumvention mechanism.

2405
03:16:05,000 --> 03:16:10,840
It's not the mere fact that you didn't consume the advertisement.

2406
03:16:10,840 --> 03:16:18,160
So the fact that it's highly automated happening at scale and seemingly just ripping the content

2407
03:16:18,160 --> 03:16:25,480
right off the page in a lot of cases that to me makes it less defensible.

2408
03:16:25,480 --> 03:16:31,920
Even just for you as a user, I would hazard against using them, not even for any moral

2409
03:16:31,920 --> 03:16:37,760
reason or whatever else, but just because dude, they are so often wrong.

2410
03:16:37,760 --> 03:16:44,160
Those summary things I have found to be even higher error rate than standard chats.

2411
03:16:44,160 --> 03:16:47,920
We had an applicant for our writing position that we were interviewing earlier this week

2412
03:16:47,920 --> 03:16:53,920
and he was talking about me discussing the inaccuracy and how often the chatbot lied

2413
03:16:53,920 --> 03:17:00,640
to me and he asked it something as simple as like, when did this model of Ford vehicle

2414
03:17:00,640 --> 03:17:04,160
get power Windows? And it was wrong like three times.

2415
03:17:04,160 --> 03:17:09,400
And he knew the answer so he was like, no, and it's like, oh, you're right.

2416
03:17:09,400 --> 03:17:13,800
I just extrapolated based on that that was the first year that this other Ford vehicle

2417
03:17:13,800 --> 03:17:17,760
got power Windows. He's like, no, you're actually not right about that either. Oh, yeah, you're right.

2418
03:17:17,760 --> 03:17:26,040
I was like, yeah, they just they just hallucinate a lot.

2419
03:17:26,040 --> 03:17:30,040
I really I really want to fit this whole I'm sure it's findable.

2420
03:17:30,040 --> 03:17:34,080
I really want to figure out what the metric is when you will say it's, it's correct 90%

2421
03:17:34,080 --> 03:17:39,240
of the time. I mean, the grammar is usually pretty correct, 90% of the time does that count?

2422
03:17:39,240 --> 03:17:45,720
Does that count? I don't know. Like, do these words form a coherent sentence even if the meaning of it is completely inaccurate?

2423
03:17:45,720 --> 03:17:49,880
If there's one small thing that's incorrect in a response that it gives, does that mean

2424
03:17:49,880 --> 03:17:54,520
that the entire response is incorrect or because the overall response was mostly right?

2425
03:17:54,520 --> 03:17:58,760
Is that counted as correct? Like where are the lines on this?

2426
03:17:58,760 --> 03:18:05,280
I think it's wrong. I agree. Like, okay, because I do not run into 90% of the time.

2427
03:18:05,280 --> 03:18:08,680
It's perfect. That is not reflective of my experience of it.

2428
03:18:08,680 --> 03:18:14,400
Okay. So back when I was researching the gamer plane, my son was trying to figure out if it could

2429
03:18:14,400 --> 03:18:19,320
fly somewhere. You remember the one I was talking about, right? My son was trying to figure out if it could fly somewhere nonstop.

2430
03:18:19,320 --> 03:18:23,940
And it goes, this is the range of this plane, which it got right.

2431
03:18:23,940 --> 03:18:27,960
This is the distance of this place, which it got right.

2432
03:18:27,960 --> 03:18:33,640
And the distance was greater than the range. And then it said, yes, it can fly there nonstop.

2433
03:18:33,640 --> 03:18:42,120
So it got all, all the base facts right, but drew the wrong conclusion.

2434
03:18:42,120 --> 03:18:50,080
It's like, well, that to me is wrong. Because if you don't read it carefully, then you're going to, you're not going to know

2435
03:18:50,080 --> 03:18:56,800
the right answer. Interesting.

2436
03:18:56,800 --> 03:18:59,840
I know someone who actively works in human reinforcement learning.

2437
03:18:59,840 --> 03:19:04,880
This is from Tim, 0, 0, 0, 3, sorry, 0, 0, X3.

2438
03:19:04,880 --> 03:19:08,640
I know someone who actively works in human reinforcement learning for Gemini AI.

2439
03:19:08,640 --> 03:19:14,960
And I can tell you that there is a score based on very specific phrases in an entire response.

2440
03:19:14,960 --> 03:19:21,560
And each response is deemed, and each response is deemed how accurate is individually.

2441
03:19:21,560 --> 03:19:29,520
Yeah. What I'm saying is that example that I gave would be 66% correct according to how the

2442
03:19:29,520 --> 03:19:33,600
metrics- Yeah, in my opinion, that should count as a zero. That's a zero, in my opinion as well.

2443
03:19:33,600 --> 03:19:37,720
So I think, I think 90% is artificially inflated high.

2444
03:19:37,720 --> 03:19:42,360
Oh yeah, no doubt.

2445
03:19:42,360 --> 03:19:46,360
No doubt that we'll see you again next week.

2446
03:19:46,360 --> 03:19:48,560
Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye.