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My chat yet

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Gosh darn it are we live right now, mm-hmm. I think so

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What's up y'all we're back, baby. Wait, does that mean you have your stuffed in?

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Yeah, oh He said that I must have been rather spaced out I flew back today

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Well, I should say I took an airplane back today

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Because my policy of not shaking hands at CES has kept me from getting the flu

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Good job, give me my fucking ding now. Good job. Thank you

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My goodness

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Actually love the ding now I'm like conditioned to enjoy it because it comes at the same time as I get my

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Satisfaction of making a terrible joke. So now it's like a it's like a Pavlov dog condition response now

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It's like a reverse thing. So instead of feeling good from the ding

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It's like I feel good and then I need the ding and then I feel good again

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It's like the Pavlov the Pavlov response is saying the bad joke and then the ding is the reward. Yeah, perfect

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Luke a tired boy my plane landed it like midnight. Oh

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We're we all like the same bit plane

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maybe Was your plane delayed five hours. Oh

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No, I just landed it midnight. So he does not have finger things. What are you talking about?

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It does if you try hard enough. Yeah, I suppose anything has finger things if you try hard enough. Yep

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Oh

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Okay, what?

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Yeah, oh that makes sense I

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Understand now

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So is she can be watching that or like how does that work?

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Okay. Oh, so we should do that sooner or like someone gonna like message me or you or

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Okay, can the audience hear you right now, okay that

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In general that's very professional and very good

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But on when show especially like pre-show with the float playing people you could you should probably like they're gonna hear my side of the

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Conversation so you might as well just Send it. Okay. Fine fine fine fine. I

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Mean if it's something actually confidential, that's fine And if you and if it's hard for you to just like like have the situational awareness to be like, okay

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This word I'm about to say is like confidential or like whatever then that's totally fine, too

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Okay, do do your best there clap says turn your mic on you coward fine fine you people fine already

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Basically when you announce them, they'll go live then

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because of the thing

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Cool

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That sucks because I actually kind of wanted to

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Do the thing so I was I was hoping it was up now so I could snipe

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Luke still doesn't understand that he can have stuff I don't think I can't

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I'm almost done

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Who's gonna tell you know it's quite a few people I think you'd be surprised. Yeah

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We'll snip Sally hell yeah

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Okay, who's off I whose I far one was flight good

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Has anyone in the history of the world been on a good flight?

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It's always a relative question How was your flight everybody says?

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Everybody knows the answer The best case scenario is I was packed like a sardine in a big tube in the sky

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Yeah, but isn't like every question like that relative I guess

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No, I mean, how are you doing? Okay, other than that don't actually want to know how you're doing

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Okay, how are you doing has a very wide range?

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How was your flight? It's it's bad to worse, you know

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There's no such thing as a good flight

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No, I had a good flight back It was delayed five hours. Yeah, but the flight itself was good not the waiting

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But that's that I mean, that's it's part and parcel. Oh, that's a really delay is part

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Guys, I know you love siding with me Come on, we'll flight back. Let him know was that let him know the people that had connections

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Will it build Vilda says delay is part of the flight. I dope Linus is right

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Get a private play. Oh my god Oh

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I don't even talk to you people my whole row ended up being empty I mean that's why I don't whole row to myself. Okay, that's so the actual flight portion was good

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Mr. Dave, I am live on the wancho. What can I do for you?

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Thanks Oh

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Thanks, Dan

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Okay, don't care about that

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Yeah, don't care about that don't care about that. Okay good

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Oh man

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What a week Don't talk about it though. We got to save it save it for the show. Okay. What can we talk about for the floaters?

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What is not content this week?

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Sammy bought a plastic fake

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Uh, what do you even call it slot machine?

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That was 60 us dollars why which right now is

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84 canadian dollars. Yeah, I know

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Why we were walking around and we were discussing

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Like okay, we started we started one of the mornings off we got breakfast together

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And we got breakfast at this bagel shop and the bagel shop had this thing called the baller bagel

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And the baller bagel was I think it was like 130

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us dollars or something like that because it had like caviar on it or something

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And he was like I'd only have to pay like a little bit more than my premium to get that. I'm like that's one that's one bagel

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That's a singular bagel. I mean at least it was a special bagel I paid

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Like 22 canadian dollars for like a bowl of oatmeal in the morning

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And that was just Vegas is actually ridiculous. That was just a bowl of oatmeal with some like berries in it. Yeah

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Uh, and then we kept going on throughout the day while we're walking around trying to do stuff

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And we kept coming back to this baller bagel thing and then at a separate point in time

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He mentioned that he saw someone on like facebook marketplace or something selling one of those rabbit

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uh, ai assistant things For like 200 bucks and he was like I wanted to get it because it looks cool

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And then he ended up actually buying

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The fake plastic slot machine

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I think I think sammy needs like a an intervention

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We'll get Elijah to help him. Okay

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The compounding effect of that is so bad. What even happens at that point in time

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A hole in the space time continued. Yeah, I think so. Yeah

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CEO of mastercard gets another yacht

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I don't know. This is this is one of those things like for me

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The fun of having money is that I could afford it and I don't

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yeah It's like that was I I don't want to say it

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I didn't want to say it on the main show last week because I feel like a lot of the normie audience is going to get the wrong idea

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but like that was honestly The most fun part of like going to tiffani and harry winston last last week. Was that buy any of this stuff?

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I literally could And I literally won't

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Because you can take your attitude and you can stuff it. Yeah. Yeah

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Yeah, like yeah Yeah

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But I don't sit on money charcoal like I spend it just spend it on the business

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or yeah, definitely like spend it on um

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Like, you know badminton center something people can use like it's not that I don't or your house or whatever or the community

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It's not that I don't spend money. It's just that like I'm not going to spend it on that because that's stupid

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I don't know dude when I see people with just like a really expensive designer, whatever

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All I see is that you put too many points and money and not enough in IQ. I'm sorry. That's all I can see

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I'm like, yeah, I got a gold controller, but let me tell you something about that gold controller

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That has appreciated in value since I bought it

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Is the name brand stuff doesn't is the raw gold now worth more than it costs to make it?

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Um that I'm not sure it has gone. It's gold's been on a tear. Yeah. Yeah. No, I know

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I it's just like there's a there's like machining costs and stuff and making the controller

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Yeah, but we didn't pay them So we did it as a quid pro quo. So the place did a lot of well not all exposure or whatever through it

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Yeah, but they didn't do like we paid some but we didn't pay all got it

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And they also made some exceptions for us like under normal circumstances

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Um like the sprue, do you know what the sprue is? I don't think so

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So when you do a mold there's like a thing of wax that comes off while I'll finish explaining it for them

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So that that's the the channel that the gold goes down to fill the mold

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Like the like the air hole like the inlet and actually the air hole is separate

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It doesn't matter the point is there's a there's a sprue and so normally like just cutting off the sprue is like just like part of

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You know like there they just take it and I was like, okay, okay

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No because like On that the number of pieces

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And how big the pieces were and how thick the sprues had to be in order to get it was like

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thousands of dollars worth of gold and sprue and I was like

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Actually, no I will be keeping any of the leftover bits or you will be crediting them and they were like, okay

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Because it was like under normal circumstances, it should be a little bit on like a ring or something like right?

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It's like a tiny bit. Um But I actually know

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So yeah, like I don't I don't mind. It's not that I yeah, it's not that I don't like buy expensive things

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It's just like when I do it's like

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I I hope for it to be something that appreciates or has a purpose

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I'd say my car is an exception. My car was like a very much a treat yourself

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Like I know that this is I've been sitting here. I'm nominally stupid when to point out your car. Oh, yeah, the car is ridiculous

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it's like But it's a you know, it's a it's a highly regarded model. I will say I'm

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Maybe even a little bit surprised at how

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I don't know if enthusiastic is the right term, but how positively you still seem to

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Feel about it. I love it. You still get very clear and obvious enjoyment out of it. Oh, yeah

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Like I don't think I would Just to be completely honest on trade for a month

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I'm down on mine

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I don't think so. I think I'd be too scared of hitting something

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No, that's fine. It's just a car

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Like I mean, that's the thing, right? Like I wouldn't I wouldn't buy a car like that if I had to stress about what's gonna happen

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Yeah, like a lot of people will finance something like that. Like that's their whole like

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That's their whole life. That's sketch. That's like that's scary. You know

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Yeah, that's scary But like

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Yeah, no man like it's uh No, I love it. I'm pretty I'm pretty sure and I'm like, I'm not trying to judge you when I say this to be very clear

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I'm just looking at like my personality. I and I don't think I would ever do that just even if I had your money because I don't think I would

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Be enjoying it at that level still

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I'm sure I would enjoy it for like a while. Why do you want to do this? I just don't mind. It just doesn't matter. I don't mind

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Chat's telling me to do it. Yeah chat's telling you to do it because they know you should do it

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I can't even plug it in at home Well, that's inconvenient, but you can plug it in at work

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Like you're in office five days a week four or five days a week anyway these days. So like just plug it in

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It's fine Maybe yeah, see people people people like you should just do it. I don't even need your car. I'll just find something else to try

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I have to do something with

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Yeah, I'll take leave it my parents or you know why he doesn't want to do it because then you'd have to clean his car

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That's why he doesn't want to do it

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He'd have to empty his fucking car

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empty out the trunk this man is so predictable

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Like you're hopelessly predictable chat would have never known

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I know I know

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I'm in your head

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Line is you should take my yeah, you should take my coffee, you know never rock paper scissors me

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Oh, no, that would probably be an issue. I'm living in their rent for you

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But that that almost like I will do to you what I did to Ludwig

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That was really good. Um Oh, man, I think that's even like part of the point though

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Like if it's If it's of questionable worth to like clean my car to borrow it for a month

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Like yeah, I don't think I would enjoy it at the same level. I don't know man

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People change right like you saw what my car was like when you met me

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Yeah, I was a like the floor of my car as a garbage can guy

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Uh to a certain point it was required. We didn't have the newspapers. Yeah, not even the floor. Yeah

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Yeah, the seats too. Yeah, wait Did you were you there for the bottom of my car is has water seeping up through an era? Okay. Yeah, okay

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So then you know what's up. Yeah Like that I used to like contribute newspapers to the floor like that was that was me that that was me

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And like you see mine now. It's like always spotless. Yep

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Like I'm I'm like a hard and fast like I'm that dad that's like when you leave the car

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You take every crumb that you brought into it out Like I let the kids eat in the car because like whatever life life happens and I am

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That I am like chronically late for everything

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So it's usually not their fault that they have to like, you know, cram a muffin in their gullet in the back of the car or whatever

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Um, but like I I expect them to like take it out for like do you have a do you have a beater car too? No

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Like that that's another thing too. Like I'm not a proper car guy. I'm not like, uh, I'm not like

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Oh, yeah, like yeah, that is my daily driver car. I'm gonna put like

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150,000 kilometers on it or whatever and run it into the ground like it. Yeah

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Like that's Porsche cares like it bothers people so much

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But that's the no one cares about this car. This car got no long term like appreciation. No collector status nothing

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It's like whatever is that a thing with electric cars like Danny. Yeah, as far as I can tell. Yeah, no no one cares

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Yeah, but like that that's the thing for me is like I I I don't think you should buy anything

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That you can't afford to just treat like something you own. Yep

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But like it's only because of people who who stretch their means that

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Stuff like this can even like make it into production. I I suspect I'm sure

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Even the first Tesla roasters aren't really worth anything. Yeah

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Yeah, the one the specific serial numbers that belonged to like

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specific Like tech CEOs and stuff like that are are apparently worth something but other than that. No, they're not really worth anything

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Surely if you have like elons or something. Yeah, and I don't know man. Like I I don't really man. I don't really get the whole

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I don't really get the whole car thing. Like I was um

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Like you know that I was sort of toying around with the idea of a Navarra at some point, right?

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So this is like a two million euro car

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And so by the time I got it over here into Canada where you're gonna pay

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I forget how much the luxury tax is because the actual amount of it

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Um, like like the percentage of it was less important to me than just the fact that I'm paying it at all like just

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Oh man like brutal and to be clear. I I support taxing the rich

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um And I think the luxury tax on vehicles and yachts and stuff is absolutely a spectacular way to do it

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I'm for sure. I am supportive of the luxury tax, but

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That doesn't mean that I want to pay it. It means that I'm just gonna just not buy that then very likely, which is great

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Um, anyway, the point is uh, the point is I was like looking at it and one of the things

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Whoa No, no, no, that's a feature No, I know I was just yeah

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One of the things that I actually did more recently because they just released the Navarra R

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And so I was like I was looking at it. It pulls from a hundred to 200 kilometers an hour

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At the same rate That the Taycan does zero to a hundred. Yeah, yeah

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Like this thing is freaking wild. It's insane. Are you pulling it up? Yeah

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Yeah, I'll pull up your screen. So um

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So I was looking at it and one of the things that I did

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was I was just like I went on I went on quora because if you ask a question

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Someone at some point has asked and answered it on quora and I was I was looking at like, okay, like what are the

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What are the challenges of daily driving a hyper car?

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Like something like this And what I ultimately came to from just sort of reading about

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Reading people's conversations about it is that it's just

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Actually stupid Like you've got on the one hand you've got the guys that are like, yeah, I never I never leave it with the valet

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And then on the other hand you've got the guys that are like, yeah, I always leave it with the valet

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I never park it and I'm kind of sitting here going

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I don't remember the last time I went anywhere that had a valet. Yeah

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Like I so okay So this is so none of this is a concern to me and then the other thing is like, where do I even go?

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Okay, it's a two-seater So I can't go anywhere with my family unless I have just one of them

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I don't realistically think I would want to drive it to work even if I could

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And I think that immediately kills it in my opinion the optics are the optics of this thing are terrible

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Oh, yeah, right and so I'm looking at it going. Okay, so I can't go anywhere with my family and I can't go to work

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Where do people drive these things? Everyone's talking about like how how stressed they are parking their cars?

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like, yeah Yeah, I that costs enough that that I would be I would be stressed like with the dbrand skin on the tycan

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I don't worry that much about it because if someone just like a minor scratch and it's going to do literally nothing

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Bumps their jacket against it or like opens their door or whatever. It's not going to scratch the paint

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Like so I actually have like basically no worries other than like, you know, if it gets, you know

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Sideswiped or something, you know, like that. Yeah, obviously that's bad, but I'm just like

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I'm just I'm just Scrappy dp says Linus is new money. I am a hard dude

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Dude, I grew up on a hobby farm with my parents or teachers. This is definitely new money

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I am the newest money that there is dude. I yeah. No, man. I I don't got that. I don't got that old money

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Um, it's this one someone's asking which card is oh my god. Look at that cat. Is that a golf course?

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Do they have a golf course on their campus? We'll go all the way down. I don't even think they sold out all of the original laveras

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Like how do they have a golf course campus? No idea. I mean, there was the whole acquisition slash merger and

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Maté de Rubac is like the uh, he's the CEO of uh, Bugatti now and stuff. So there's clearly money

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They have a they have a like what even is this basket? It's a green basketball court. I don't even know what I'm looking at

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Do you want to zoom that enhance? And that's

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Enhanced yeah, it's a green basketball court. Go figure. I don't know because uh,

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Croatia I guess and then are they in Croatia or check?

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No, I don't remember where read this though. It's like

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Where is it? Croatia? Yeah, I was right the first time

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Are you rebellious? Embrace your rebellious spirit with the re-magnuvera r. It's not just a car. It's a statement

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It is a car defy the norm challenge the status quo

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And experience a hypercar that breaks all conventions

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Okay, I'm pretty sure chat gbt could road that on its first attempt

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This whole thing just like well Oh, man

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Big ick. Well, you got to remember like who you're who you're selling to big ick probably that's what I'm assuming

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I found one second hand

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I actually unironically like delivery

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Unironically, I think it looks pretty cool. You just need to make all the black parts pink. Oh, it's sold

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Oh, dude, it's sold. This was not on the market very long

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That's crazy. I'm actually very surprised

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That's crazy. I think it was listed for two mil usd

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man I'm very surprised that sold

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Someone says 1800 miles is quite a bit for a hypercar. The thing is it's um

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It's electric though. Like I would imagine it's probably a little more reliable than your typical

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I don't know. Someone says it's going to be flipped. Like what do you mean though? Like I don't know these

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This seems like the least collectible of hypercars

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I don't know even though like I have been keeping my eye on it

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I I just don't feel like car people actually

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I mean clearly they've sold a few but I don't think they sold out them all

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um I thought remac went out of business. No, I I don't think so

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People are buying and selling all the time keep it for half a year to experience it then flip it to the next guy

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I mean that actually makes sense like if you if you have that kind of

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Money, then you just it's almost like cost of

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It's almost like cost of rental Like however much you lose on the flip. That's actually that's that's kind of cool

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I could I could get into that The problem is like I okay again, you know back to back to Linus nuvo rich things. What if you I don't I don't have like a garage

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I have a one I have one car space allocated to me like I have a big garage

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But one of the bays has a paint booth in it for a project that I was someday finished

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You were a proper rich guy and you had someone else paint your bike or actually you just bought a new one

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Then you wouldn't need a paint booth and you could store your extra hypercar

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I have to admit the whole thing is starting to feel pretty stupid two garages

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Yeah, but the other one has like my kids stuff in it and the minivan

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I have kids dude. I have kids I have kids

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What what kids stuff the go-karts? Um, yeah, yeah, we have go-karts. You could create a go-kart garage that goes in your massive backyard

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But then it dude pool parties though. You gotta have space for croquet. You gotta play that croquet

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Priorities priorities. Have you seen some of the stuff they'll sell with this like tier of cars?

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They'll sell you like luggage and they'll sell you like there's there's some car that there's like a custom cringe fishing kit

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If I remember I want to look this up. Um, I think it's like a Lamborghini or something

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Ja, he jazz. He says buy the house next to yours and make it a garage

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Oh man, you know what's funny Range Rover. Okay, again, this is something I would not talk about on the main show

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But back when we were living in South Glen Yvonne and I legitimately talked about that

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What sorry about just instead of moving because we loved the location so much and we couldn't find a better

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Location we just we loved that house. We loved the layout. We loved the location. We talked about just

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Buying the neighbor's place And then just like having

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Like like all about second house all the kids play area stuff like over there

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And like guest room over there and just like like the main house is the yard is just like the bedrooms

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Kitchen dining room essentially and like like if we wanted like a home theater or something put it over there

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It's over in like second house like all the stuff that you wouldn't big big like rec room

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You just put it over there. Just put put everything over there So you just like gut the inside and just turn it into entirely recreational space

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You take the backyard turn it into a pool and then so your main house has like the yard and the living space

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And you actually live like pretty normally day-to-day Yeah, except that you have like a recreational house next to you. It's like normal house and baller expand

00:26:31.840 --> 00:26:39.120
Well, it's like it's like having you build a tunnel So, okay, hold on. We're getting to that. Okay. So it's like having a rec property, right?

00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:42.640
Yeah, like anyone who has a cabin on a lake or you know, whatever like a recreation

00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:48.800
It's like or like a slightly more expensive but same deal Except you would use it all the time much more often because it's right there

00:26:49.120 --> 00:26:52.640
It genuinely doesn't seem that unreasonable when you frame it that way

00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:58.720
So Yvonne was like I wouldn't want to have to like go outside to go to another room in my house

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Yeah, and so I was like, okay, hear me out tunnel

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That's so sick

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See, okay I wouldn't get the enjoyment from

00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:17.680
the car I think But tunnel to fun house

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Holy crap. I'm so on board. That'll be amazing. See that to me is even more unhinged than a nice car

00:27:25.360 --> 00:27:30.400
At no point in time have I tried to say that I am hinged to be clear. Oh my god

00:27:31.360 --> 00:27:36.960
What would be in your fun house? Because I have kids I can explain my fun house pretty easily

00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.240
I'd use the rooms. Oh my god

00:27:42.560 --> 00:27:45.200
Just tell me what kind of pole would it be?

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Fire pole or other pole. It could be multi-use multi-use. Yeah, because you could lock it in position

00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.880
But it needs to be fire pole Then it could unlock

00:27:57.600 --> 00:28:00.880
You know that stripper poles are in a fixed position too, right? No, they're not

00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:06.880
Oh, no, are they not? No, they're not. Oh, all right. You could have them dressed up like firemen

00:28:09.040 --> 00:28:13.040
No, they're not say people. All right. Well, you know what that's the kind of honestly

00:28:13.120 --> 00:28:17.040
That's the kind of thing I'm fine not knowing. It's like learning about santa. That's the kind of thing

00:28:17.040 --> 00:28:23.440
I'm fine not knowing. I didn't know for like a super long time and to be clear. I have actually genuinely never been to a strip club

00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:29.120
I was just like informed of this because I thought it was crazy that they could spin like that

00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:33.040
I thought it was actually like just nuts and then someone was like, oh, they're not

00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.920
They're staying in position the pole spinning and I was like, oh, okay. That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense

00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:40.640
Oh

00:28:44.800 --> 00:28:46.800
Donut says I've been once it was meh

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Yeah, it's it's on the internet by the way, just in case anyone hasn't figured that out yet

00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:57.840
Everything's on the internet. Yeah, look at this. This is a custom Bentley like fishing kit

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I

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See if that's what rich people look like I don't know if I want to be

00:29:09.040 --> 00:29:13.200
$200,000 Bentley designed specifically for fly fishing like

00:29:14.080 --> 00:29:19.360
What? Okay. What are you talking about? Okay. Okay. So that's not your that's not your like

00:29:19.840 --> 00:29:23.280
Rich Luke car, but there's got to be a rich Luke car. There has to be

00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:28.560
Like are you more of a rolls guy? 2012 Acura

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Someone the other day was trying to convince me and I was like

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I was kind of into the idea until I realized that I'd have to spend like 12 grand or something and then I decided no

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Um, but take the same generation of car that I have because my car is the first year in the generation

00:29:47.520 --> 00:29:51.680
and get the newest one but still within that generation, which I think is

00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:58.240
Like 2012 2013 or something and then get the SHAWD. So it's all-wheel drive

00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:04.240
And then same color and just be like there. It's like effectively the same car, but it's just like slightly nicer

00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:12.240
I was like, hmm, that'd be kind of sick Uh, josham asks what inspired the was I not holding a mic the whole time bit that killed me?

00:30:12.800 --> 00:30:17.280
Uh, that was me. I asked for the editor to do like one of those cheesy like breaking news

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Like like things because it was such a long aside

00:30:22.080 --> 00:30:26.080
part of the rules of making good videos is Don't stray from the point

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But if you do stray on the point do it with intent and so that was and make it clear you're going to come back to the point

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So that was why I did that as like a chunk the whole board one board two thing

00:30:35.120 --> 00:30:39.600
for NVIDIA's mobile GPUs and how the designs are either a board one design or a board two design

00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:46.000
um, and I just I feel like you know field reporters are like supposed to hold a mic and um

00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:50.880
My camera op was like, oh, I can try and yeah, we're in a whole like press thing

00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.760
I can find a mic prop for you to hold and I was like, no, no, no, no

00:30:54.320 --> 00:30:58.320
No, no, no, no, I'm just going to hold a fake mic and then at the end I'll pretend to that I didn't know

00:30:59.280 --> 00:31:04.000
um Fine Dan Dan wants us to start the show

00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.000
See he tried to do it without telling you guys because he's a coward, but

00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.720
I outed him. Oh, sorry. Keep forgetting. He's in my ear telling me to start the show

00:31:12.800 --> 00:31:18.480
There's a lot of like old cars that I think would be sick. Um, okay Luke's car shopping. I'm trying to find

00:31:19.600 --> 00:31:22.720
Where's the part where it will show

00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:28.480
Yeah, there it is. You can kind of see it There's this old sob that has this feature where it's speedometer only goes to a certain limit

00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.640
But then if you get to a high enough speed and anyone tries to record it

00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.360
It uh Wait for it

00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:42.720
Wait for it. Boom. Like unlocks more speedometer. So sick

00:31:44.800 --> 00:31:48.400
This is not 399 to use the rest of it. Yeah. Yeah

00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.520
There's there's cool old cars that I'm into but again like I don't know

00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.880
That's pretty funny actually Give me a tegra and a sex. Should we start this thing new

00:32:01.520 --> 00:32:04.800
Honda, what is it? Honda Integra's I think that looks sick the hybrid ones

00:32:04.800 --> 00:32:09.200
Wait, there's a Honda Integra. I thought they branded Integra Acura

00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.160
Pretty sure it's Acura. No, it's not

00:32:13.280 --> 00:32:15.840
No way. Is it Honda Integra now?

00:32:20.320 --> 00:32:22.320
Honda prelude hybrid, is that the one I'm thinking?

00:32:29.040 --> 00:32:34.000
Yeah, I was reading about this Return of an icon all electric Honda prelude

00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:38.320
Oh, there you go No

00:32:38.320 --> 00:32:42.000
Wow text. There's nothing. Oh, no up up photos. There we go

00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:50.160
Oh, it's pretty doesn't necessarily even like look that amazing, but uh, just the idea of I like hybrids

00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:58.880
Like plug-in hybrid. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Not. Yeah, not not non plug-in hybrids. I like plug-in hybrids. All right. Let's do this thing

00:32:59.600 --> 00:33:04.640
Acura nsx. Yeah, but I don't want a super car I don't want something that I'm going to be scared about like a small bump in

00:33:10.800 --> 00:33:12.800
Okay, I'm punching it

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Resume

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What is up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show it's been a busy busy week

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In between last friday, I flew down to las vegas

00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:51.360
I did a bunch of videos and I flew up to las vegas and luke was there for the first time in

00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:56.320
Forever. Yeah. Yeah, seven years or so like actually a very long time

00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:00.560
He came and did ces now that he's back on the content team back on the grind

00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.720
So we're going to be talking about ces this week. We're also going to be talking about the whole

00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:14.720
NVIDIA scandal with fake Frames that claim it's it is amazing to me how many people were like Linus. You didn't acknowledge that

00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:21.040
NVIDIA's claims were kind of outlandish and I'm like, yo, I called it a red flag in the intro

00:34:21.040 --> 00:34:25.440
Are you not up with the lingo? Red flag means bad

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:31.040
So we're going to be talking about the 50 series fake frames and also I'll give you guys kind of a

00:34:31.600 --> 00:34:36.480
Longer rundown of what it was like playing on those fake frames. What else we got for this week

00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.000
Why is no one talking about the ryzen ai max?

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.680
Yeah, wait, is that actually something that you think is really interesting?

00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:51.520
Or are you just oh my just just pick another one. Why is the arc b580 underperforming on older chipsets?

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00:35:24.160 --> 00:35:29.760
Wait, we only have one sponsor for the wancho. Do I need to call and find out what the heck is going on?

00:35:30.720 --> 00:35:38.640
Did they forget to sell the wancho? The second wancho of the year and they've already failed to sell the sponsor spots on it

00:35:39.120 --> 00:35:45.040
Oh, okay, you know what looking good. That's yeah clearly clearly. This is it guys. We are washed up

00:35:45.040 --> 00:35:50.640
We are almost at the five-year anniversary if i'm thinking about retiring and uh, whether I like it or not

00:35:50.720 --> 00:35:55.760
It might be happening because we can't even sell the wancho anymore. It really has been a good run everybody

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Thank you very much and good night

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I won't say it. I'm back. No, don't say it because then we have to end the show. I'm contractually obligated to push the button

00:36:05.200 --> 00:36:13.600
No, he can't do it you guys. He can't do it So let's talk about the NVIDIA 50 series fake frames controversy on monday january 6th

00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.600
six So

00:36:17.600 --> 00:36:20.640
Okay, wow, this is very early in the show for an aside

00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.000
Three words in

00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:34.320
My list is coming back Oh And I think it's ever since uh, and I specifically remember when it started happening because

00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:42.400
I it it's sort of I think the shape of the roof of my mouth is is reverting to before I had my dental appliances and braces and everything

00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.000
and the reason that I can the reason I know when it happened is because

00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:51.120
It sort of manifests as kind of having like a little of the like gunk like stuck in the back of my throat

00:36:51.600 --> 00:36:59.680
and and having a little bit more trouble with speech and um, I remember it because it was pretty early in like the covid scare

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.400
Time so it was uh like early 2020 and initially I thought like I had covid or something

00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:11.840
But actually I just like ever since then I've always just kind of been a little bit more more gunked up

00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:19.280
But um, I'm getting my wisdom teeth out. I don't know if you know this So I've already had my bottom ones out and I was stupid and I was like, oh well my top ones aren't bothering me

00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:23.600
So why would I bother to have them removed even though everyone told me if you just have them all at the same time?

00:37:23.680 --> 00:37:26.640
That's a lot easier than like going under the knife twice

00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:30.160
But the reason I have to have them out is not because they're suddenly bothering me

00:37:30.160 --> 00:37:36.080
I could keep the top ones forever but because I want to go back and get my orthodontics looked at and

00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:41.680
I went to two orthodontists one of whom told me that they wanted they they could fix my teeth

00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:47.760
And they wanted to remove one of my bottom teeth in order to do it one or more because I have crowding down there

00:37:48.080 --> 00:37:53.200
And I was like, yo, I'd really rather not. Yeah, and the other one said, yeah, they can do it without removing any teeth

00:37:53.520 --> 00:37:56.800
But they literally will not work on any adult that has their wisdom teeth in

00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:02.320
Any wisdom teeth because they're like, yeah, they're just they're too much of an x factor and we just we won't do it

00:38:02.720 --> 00:38:10.160
so I have to So I have to get my top ones out in the next little bit and I'm hoping that someday again

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.280
I will be able to say on monday january 6th

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NVIDIA revealed their 50 series rtx GPUs

00:38:18.160 --> 00:38:26.320
We have a whole video on the keynote if you haven't seen it yet and that includes a hands-on gaming on the new rtx 50 90

00:38:27.120 --> 00:38:32.640
during that keynote NVIDIA stated that the rtx 50 70, which is launching with a

00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:40.560
$550 price tag will deliver rtx 40 90 performance followed quickly by jensen wong saying

00:38:41.120 --> 00:38:43.680
This would be impossible without ai

00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:50.480
So coming back to our intro, that's what I referred to as a red flag because that tells us

00:38:51.520 --> 00:38:57.440
Explicitly that this is going to be done with dls s software frame gen. Yeah, uh, well hardware

00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:03.280
It's using Inferencing hardware sure, but also software. Yeah

00:39:04.240 --> 00:39:08.400
Initially many people were excited, but then as the news kind of

00:39:09.040 --> 00:39:12.080
settled and more people started talking about it

00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.440
It's sort of shifted to a perception that these are

00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.400
Fake frames since the way that these 50 series cards are going to be able to achieve such great performance

00:39:20.720 --> 00:39:24.800
Is through dls s 4.0 with frame gen and in particular

00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.160
a new type of frame gen that is uh

00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.800
Well, it has a lot more fake frames than the old frame gen

00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:43.680
Yeah, so the example that most people are referencing is actually on NVIDIA's own website where they show cyberpunk 2077 running at 4k with all settings crank to the max

00:39:44.720 --> 00:39:49.600
Only getting 28 FPS without dls s and then over

00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:56.240
230 frames with dls s multi frame gen ray reconstruction and

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Super resolution. So basically rendering at a lower initial resolution

00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:11.120
Generating what is it three frames of artificially three inferred frames for every one actual rendered out frame

00:40:11.600 --> 00:40:17.360
And then ray reconstruction. I am not 100 familiarized with yet. So i'm not going to try to explain that one

00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:24.720
Another reason people are upset over fake frames is that benchmarks in the future are going to get really confusing

00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:31.280
Oh, yeah for people who take these numbers at face value versus the actual visuals that you might be seeing because

00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:35.600
250 frames per second rendered fully

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Right with no fake frames is going to look different and feel different than 250 frames per second

00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:50.560
With a whole bunch of software trickery should be clear about multi frame gen two you can have multi frame gen on but at different levels

00:40:51.520 --> 00:40:56.080
So i believe this is multi frame gen 4x, which is like as aggro as it can go right

00:40:56.160 --> 00:40:59.760
So that's that's three fake frames fake frames for every one

00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:03.760
But you could have multi frame gen that is below that that's that's the main thing i'm trying to

00:41:04.160 --> 00:41:09.440
Yeah, so frame gen in the past has just been like every other so it's been a one-to-one ratio

00:41:09.600 --> 00:41:15.280
Whereas now you can have a one-to-one two-to-one or a three-to-one ratio of of generated frames versus

00:41:15.520 --> 00:41:21.120
Fully rendered out frames and one thing that they're talking about is like paying attention to your monitor's refresh rate

00:41:21.520 --> 00:41:24.160
and trying to set frame gen so that

00:41:24.640 --> 00:41:28.640
The FPS count is just a bit above your monitor's refresh rate

00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:32.080
They're not suggesting that you just crank it to 4x all the time

00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.080
Because I think even they are recognizing that it's like, you know

00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:42.080
So not perfect. We're going to have to be a little careful with this discussion question because

00:41:42.640 --> 00:41:46.320
I have not been briefed on anything about 50 series

00:41:46.720 --> 00:41:54.240
Um, but I cannot necessarily say that about everyone in the room right now that I was told outside of the thing

00:41:55.600 --> 00:41:59.360
Okay, so I was okay with saying that cool, but we still do have a discussion question

00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:04.960
We're just going to have to be a little bit careful with it after having spent time with graphics cards throughout the years

00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:12.160
Do you agree with the mindset that these are fake frames and they don't count for the performance of the card?

00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.040
Initial thoughts No

00:42:17.040 --> 00:42:25.200
Okay Not completely. Okay. Okay. That sounds like a more. Are you able to elaborate anymore right now?

00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.840
What can I say and what can I not say Um

00:42:32.080 --> 00:42:36.480
So this this this is something that they've said before this wasn't just said at the thing

00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.880
So NVIDIA claims that 80 of rtx gamers

00:42:41.520 --> 00:42:49.360
turn on dlss Now I tried to get an extrapolation from there because something that I and I I didn't get one so I can talk

00:42:49.520 --> 00:42:54.560
Well, I did but it they said maybe and they weren't 100% sure so I'm not going to quote it. Um

00:42:55.200 --> 00:42:58.720
But what I was kind of trying to figure out is like, okay rtx gamers

00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:05.520
So this goes back to 2000 series, right? So like if someone's running a I don't know a 2050 ti or a 20 60

00:43:05.680 --> 00:43:09.360
There's a 2050 you can tell you was out of the game for a period. I didn't care at all

00:43:09.520 --> 00:43:14.160
2060 is the entry level to to rtx. Sure. So it's 20 60. Yep

00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.840
Is that person way more likely to turn on dlss versus like a 40 90? I

00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:26.960
What's the distribution here? That's an interesting question if I had a 40 90 or I had a 50 90 which

00:43:27.680 --> 00:43:34.800
It has been announced the pricing's here. I was prepared for 2000 us dollars. I'm buying one. Um, so if when I install my 50 90

00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:42.240
I will probably not turn it on If I had a 30 60 I heard I heard a quote from you off camera. Can I say it?

00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:46.640
I don't remember what it is, but go for it. Okay. You said I'm not buying a

00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.400
$2,000 GPU to turn on dlss

00:43:54.160 --> 00:43:57.440
Yeah, you could you could quote me you could quote me on that

00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:02.400
All right. All right. All right But the thing is that there are I'm gonna have to make compromises somewhere else

00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:07.520
I think that's honestly and this this is where I said like the maybe think because I think that approach is

00:44:08.640 --> 00:44:15.040
Not optimal And that's fair enough. I think so that's fair enough because I think there is I think there's I think there's a time in

00:44:15.040 --> 00:44:22.400
validity I think there is validity to to because I'm gonna make compromises in order to get the kind of frame rate that I want

00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:27.280
I'm gonna have to turn off some visual details then whereas if someone else says hey look

00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.160
I want to see all the eye candy. Yeah, and I don't

00:44:31.040 --> 00:44:36.320
I don't need you know, whether it's uh, whether it's you're trading off a competitive edge for visuals or you're trading off

00:44:36.720 --> 00:44:43.120
Um, you know, really depends on cooler looking lighting and smoke and particle effects for you know, um

00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:47.120
Sharpness sharpness in the rendered image, you know, what whatever, right?

00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.320
Whatever it is that's your trade-off. That's your trade-off and I don't think that one is

00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:58.960
Right, absolutely. Yes, and one is wrong. Absolutely. Yeah, but in terms of my feelings about it

00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:04.080
Yeah, I'm not gonna buy a $2,000 graphics card and turn on the frame gen which I think is fair

00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:12.240
And I think you're More visually discerning than the vast majority of people I've ever met. I have seen the faces fall

00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.440
Yeah of NVIDIA employees. Yeah now through

00:45:16.160 --> 00:45:23.360
New numbered like more than one generation. I'm not just trying to gas them up like this is a thing of dlss. I have watched them

00:45:25.040 --> 00:45:29.200
Think it's like basically perfect be confident. Watch me walk up to a demo

00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.480
literally it wasn't this launch it was um

00:45:33.600 --> 00:45:40.960
4 000 series super launch They had two demo systems right next to each other one that was using dlss and one that wasn't

00:45:41.680 --> 00:45:48.000
And I believe it was with frame gen And they didn't have like FPS counters and they were like, can you tell which one?

00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:52.640
And immediately I was like this one and they're like, how did you know and I'm like

00:45:54.240 --> 00:46:00.560
Because it's my job. Yeah. Yeah. It is literally my job to be able to tell the difference between this stuff for a living

00:46:01.200 --> 00:46:07.600
With that said it can be my job to know that stuff and I can still recognize that my brother-in-law

00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:14.240
Isn't going to be able to tell and isn't going to care and would actually probably prefer the smoother experience

00:46:14.240 --> 00:46:20.160
Yeah, and like but that's not me zenith and chat said latency is what matters most and it's like no not necessarily

00:46:20.720 --> 00:46:27.600
not always and I mean for you and might for in the games that you play there was a there was uh, there was something

00:46:27.600 --> 00:46:31.760
I really liked too nameless ted in the Floatplane chat says all frames are fake

00:46:32.640 --> 00:46:39.200
raster is fake AI generated is fake shaders and this is a really really good point that I feel like

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:45.760
Some people are missing. This is the forest that I feel like some people are missing through the trees here

00:46:46.160 --> 00:46:50.720
And I want to I want to bring us back to a video that we did a couple of years ago

00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:56.000
Called I'm embarrassed. I didn't think of this asynchronous reprojection

00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:02.000
This blew my absolute f***ing mind. You want to talk about fake frames?

00:47:02.720 --> 00:47:06.080
This blew me away because as someone who had kind of

00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:11.440
Fall fallen out of paying attention to vr that closely

00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:16.480
Um, it wasn't something that I was familiar with up until we made this video

00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:21.040
Um, so this was a this was a demo that um trying to remember

00:47:21.680 --> 00:47:24.480
Trying to remember what the guy yeah comrade stinger

00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:31.920
Comrade stinger, uh, and two-click philip. Okay, or two clicks philip these guys made a couple little videos

00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:38.720
future upscaling asynchronous reprojection outside of vr, and we basically got our hands on their demos and showed how

00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:46.720
uh, okay How what it looks like when you're rendering this at without it

00:47:47.600 --> 00:47:51.040
Okay, hold on or wait. Is this with it? This looks bad. Can it be improved? Hold on

00:47:51.520 --> 00:47:55.760
Okay, so basically what it is is it's a way of okay, here we go

00:47:57.680 --> 00:48:01.920
Here we've got it on So this is

00:48:02.640 --> 00:48:10.400
Basically using a whole bunch of data from the previous frame to to kind of to to fill in and I'm

00:48:10.720 --> 00:48:14.160
I'm really hazy on the details now because it was two years ago

00:48:14.160 --> 00:48:17.200
We made that video and I basically learned all about it for that video

00:48:17.680 --> 00:48:27.360
And then because I'm not a game developer And I don't work on graphics drivers and GPU architecture. I unlearned it because um, I don't need it until I need it again

00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:32.720
But the long the long story short Is that basically it only bothers

00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:36.240
It will it will just keep displaying old data

00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:42.080
And it will and then anytime you move and reveal something that was occluded

00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:46.800
It will bother to render that and that will be done at your true frame rate

00:48:47.120 --> 00:48:51.040
But your inputs are at whatever elevated frame rate you just

00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:57.200
Decide because it's just re it's just reusing it at whatever maximum refresh rate your monitor

00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:02.240
can run at and It feels

00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:04.640
Great and you can actually watch people

00:49:05.520 --> 00:49:14.240
In the video. We've got people doing Blind frame rate tests. Okay to me. This feels like 60. Do you think anything changed?

00:49:15.120 --> 00:49:20.320
Blah blah blah. Okay. Yeah, this is 60. So these are we picked it. We specifically picked like gamers from the team

00:49:21.680 --> 00:49:24.640
Yep, I can very tell I can very much tell okay

00:49:25.600 --> 00:49:30.240
And then we're going to we're going to turn it up. Hold on. Where do we turn it up?

00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:34.960
Hold on. Let me see if I can find it

00:49:36.640 --> 00:49:40.080
Okay Oh, come on, man

00:49:40.080 --> 00:49:45.760
Whatever the point is the point is it's really cool. I'm sorry. This was a lame finish to this conversation

00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.200
And what I'm trying to say is one of the biggest issues with running at a lower frame rate

00:49:51.200 --> 00:49:57.120
I'm one of the biggest issues with dlss and frame gen is latency and async reprojection

00:49:57.600 --> 00:50:05.680
Is a way that you can have a very fake frame like literally just reused visual data from the previous frame that

00:50:06.720 --> 00:50:11.600
feels very low latency and unless you're moving in specific ways

00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.360
Is very hard to discern even for you know

00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.280
Real gamers and I can't talk too much

00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:24.320
Uh About the tech stuff

00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:31.440
But I mean it's been pretty obvious for a long time from from all camps right from Intel's camp AMD's camp and vidya's camp

00:50:32.240 --> 00:50:40.160
That this is the direction that things are going in NVIDIA has that quote the 80 percent of rtx gamers are turning dlss on

00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:45.600
which is Probably a third number. I mean NVIDIA definitely

00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:51.600
I'm wondering where they pulled that from are they getting that information from game devs. Are they getting that information from

00:50:52.240 --> 00:50:57.680
I would have seen gforce now or gforce experience whatever it's called now NVIDIA app gforce now. Yeah gforce experience

00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:03.920
I think it's NVIDIA app now. Sure. Um, whatever. Um, are they is that like? Yeah, I don't know

00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:08.560
I don't know where the lines are necessarily drawn there, but that's a really high percentage of people

00:51:09.200 --> 00:51:13.520
Yep, well, I mean games are enabling it by default. So like yeah

00:51:13.600 --> 00:51:19.840
Most people and that's the thing that the enthusiast community doesn't realize. Yes is most people

00:51:20.720 --> 00:51:26.320
Literally are not going to touch the game settings panel. Yeah, there's a reason they suck

00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:30.880
So if it's on by default, it's because only some nerd is going to go in there and change anything

00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:39.120
And I I get I get it. I get I forget who I was having this conversation with recently about how they were just like

00:51:40.080 --> 00:51:44.720
They were like blown away at how little Like someone in their life

00:51:44.720 --> 00:51:49.680
You know cared about these details like sure think about I mean, it's it's the classic like sure

00:51:49.680 --> 00:51:53.680
There is an example of that for that person. Everything's giving right everything's giving

00:51:53.760 --> 00:52:00.400
There's the like the annual reminder to when you visit your relatives turn off the stupid motion smoothing because most people

00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:04.480
Literally don't even open a settings menu. Like my grandparents don't even know where it is

00:52:04.560 --> 00:52:10.240
They don't know how to access it on their tv But okay, but that being said 80 percent of gamers turn on dlss

00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.440
They don't necessarily turn on dlss all the time Sure

00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:18.640
And this is where I keep coming back to the like the right tool for the right job thing where like I think there's games

00:52:19.040 --> 00:52:23.760
And I think there's scenarios where you're not going to want any form of you don't want dlss

00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:30.160
You don't want frame gen you don't want any of this. I'm playing like a competitive game. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I don't want but then looking at

00:52:34.560 --> 00:52:38.880
I One of the experiences

00:52:40.160 --> 00:52:45.520
Okay, I think I can talk about it, but I'm not certain so I'm just gonna not yeah, that's fine looking at one of the experiences

00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:49.760
With it completely off versus with it completely on like

00:52:50.640 --> 00:52:56.240
I also this is where communicating about this stuff gets really funky though because I don't even think that's a fair comparison

00:52:57.520 --> 00:53:03.920
You can't do like the hardest possible settings and then turn on dlss and 4x frame gen and just put them side by side

00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:09.040
And be like this is fair. I don't think that's true I think you should go for like more of a frame rate target or something

00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:15.360
And without those tools put on the best things you can while hitting that frame rate and then say hey, does this look okay to you?

00:53:15.520 --> 00:53:21.840
Yeah, because for me a lot of the time I mean we did this video a while back on ultra settings are kind of stupid

00:53:22.160 --> 00:53:26.160
Yeah, right because a lot of the time for that extra three percent

00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:31.760
More realism it is costing you so much double the GPU horsepower and

00:53:32.240 --> 00:53:34.960
That's a that's a way that you know for my part

00:53:37.040 --> 00:53:41.360
Medium to high in a lot of modern games almost always great

00:53:41.600 --> 00:53:46.560
I can't really tell and a big part of the reason for that is that game developers are

00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.040
Explicitly like it's not like they hide this. They're explicitly

00:53:51.600 --> 00:53:58.880
Optimizing their games for whatever the current generation console is sure and the current generation console at the very very very

00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:05.120
Highest end is a ps5 pro which is equivalent to what like a 7800 x t or something like that

00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:10.080
Yeah, I don't know but yeah, which is which is a very powerful GPU, right?

00:54:10.240 --> 00:54:16.480
It's a marvel of modern engineering, but what it isn't is a 4090 or a 5090. Yeah, right?

00:54:16.640 --> 00:54:20.400
So I so ultimately I think just dismissing this tech

00:54:21.120 --> 00:54:28.480
Is the wrong take I also think that saying that a 5070 is a 4090. It's just like clearly obviously

00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.880
Yes, like these things can both be true both of those things are true

00:54:33.120 --> 00:54:38.720
I I don't think that we should look at frame gen and be like this is stupid and dumb and we should all ignore this collectively

00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:45.920
Because no, I think it is cool and it has applications It's really honestly that the tech that they're talking about that I can't really talk about right now

00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:52.000
Damn super impressive. Okay, but it kind of feels like a dlc more than a new graphics card launch

00:54:52.560 --> 00:54:56.640
Still super cool. Yeah, 5090 is a wicked card, but like

00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:01.200
It's too grand. That's a lot. I've got a couple of people kind of asking me

00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:06.480
Okay, Linus now that you're outside of the NVIDIA room, right? What can you say about the latency?

00:55:06.560 --> 00:55:08.960
I don't think you hold back of the frame. I didn't hold anything back

00:55:09.680 --> 00:55:15.600
Dude, I you cut up. Okay I don't think I don't think them being there literally mattered at all

00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:21.520
This is something that a lot of people I feel like don't understand about this early access

00:55:21.600 --> 00:55:26.720
Like I I saw a number of comments about this on the AMD Ryzen ai max

00:55:27.040 --> 00:55:31.520
Plus video that I did in ASUS's booth with that with that z13 gaming tablet

00:55:32.080 --> 00:55:38.800
Is like people are like like scam. This isn't even a good review and like, you know, some other publication would have done a better review

00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:42.640
Guys, this is not a review These products aren't out

00:55:42.640 --> 00:55:50.880
The the performance embargo is not lifted The fact that we were able to game on these at all is a f***ing miracle

00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:58.720
And I'm extremely grateful for it Because it gives us it gives us a little bit more information than just a spec sheet

00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:04.560
That was the alternate surprisingly open this time. Yeah, like for I I will I have

00:56:06.560 --> 00:56:10.720
Quite openly dogged on NVIDIA and a lot of other companies for their events in the past

00:56:11.120 --> 00:56:16.560
This one in general was very good. Yeah, they were super open. They're open conversations. They seemed

00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:23.360
Uh, you know, uh, there's the there's the rtx 50 70 is is 40 90 performance thing

00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:26.560
Which is in the keynote and whatever but once we got past that

00:56:27.040 --> 00:56:30.240
They were super on us super open. Yep. It felt like good conversations

00:56:30.240 --> 00:56:34.240
Yep, and and the the fact that I was able to install my own game of my choice

00:56:34.240 --> 00:56:40.960
Yeah, crazy They were like and and the realistically the only reason that we only ran one game was because the internet connectivity was pretty bad

00:56:41.040 --> 00:56:46.080
Yeah, which is not their fault ASUS actually owes msa here solid for us having that game at all

00:56:46.560 --> 00:56:52.480
Because I had to send Dylan from the procurement team on a quest to go copy game files to an SSD

00:56:52.560 --> 00:56:55.680
Because ASUS was not set up to run any games on it

00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:01.600
We got special permission to run black myth wukong and it's amazing how people will like make these conspiracy theories like

00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:06.640
Linus is only in the opening scene Because it's easier to run

00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:13.840
No, I just haven't played the game Yeah, and someone else was using the LTT benchmark account and I didn't want to kick them off

00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:20.800
So I bought the game on my account They're in the in the booth and I fired up the f***ing game

00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:25.120
That's it Calm the f*** down, you know

00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:29.760
Like people are people are looking so hard for a conspiracy

00:57:30.160 --> 00:57:35.440
But what's actually happening is and I and I even laid this out like it coming back to the NVIDIA booth demo

00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.560
Because we're going to talk about rise and amax plus later So coming back to the NVIDIA the NVIDIA demo that I did

00:57:41.040 --> 00:57:44.880
People are looking so hard for like a conspiracy, but I laid it all out

00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:50.320
I'm not allowed to change the resolution even being allowed to show you guys the settings wild

00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:57.280
Unbelievable a very surprised. They let you do that. Super cool considering how high level the keynote was

00:57:57.680 --> 00:58:06.080
The fact that I was able to show you guys the settings We were running at is the only reason you're even able to have these conversations about how NVIDIA cherry picked the settings

00:58:06.240 --> 00:58:09.520
Because otherwise you wouldn't have even known don't ruin this for next time

00:58:10.240 --> 00:58:13.440
Recognize the gift. I used to talk about this with blizzard all the time

00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:17.200
But be careful about what the impact of what you're doing is going to cause

00:58:17.680 --> 00:58:22.560
Like they were they were this is the first time in a really long time that they've been really open and allowed this level of

00:58:22.560 --> 00:58:24.960
Access to things. Yeah, don't close that off. Yeah

00:58:25.600 --> 00:58:32.560
Yeah, don't Don't screw this up guys. You're angry about the right stuff. There's things to be angry about. Yeah, 100% just be angry about the

00:58:32.560 --> 00:58:39.520
Right. The 50 70 is equal to a 40 90. Whatever thing. Yeah. Yeah, say hey, that's misleading. Yeah

00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:44.560
Say that's misleading say you don't agree and that's totally fine. Yeah, but don't be like

00:58:45.120 --> 00:58:48.880
Yeah, NVIDIA should have let you do a full performance review

00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:54.800
After the obviously not you guys there there's there's still media briefings that need to be done

00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:59.120
Everybody needs time to to test and benchmark these things in their own in their own Labs

00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:04.080
And I really appreciate that they did this huge thing with us that I can't really talk about

00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:07.600
Because they brought a huge amount of reviewers there

00:59:08.240 --> 00:59:12.720
And It was a discussion about like looking into this, you know this technology

00:59:12.720 --> 00:59:16.720
But they're also really open about like how do you test this stuff because this generation?

00:59:17.200 --> 00:59:21.600
More than I mean, I haven't been in the game for a long time So maybe this is a false statement, but it feels true to me

00:59:22.160 --> 00:59:26.560
More than many previous is going to be really weird to test

00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:30.960
And I we always say this but like look at multiple reviews

00:59:31.520 --> 00:59:36.160
This time more than like any because yeah, there's going to be a lot of weird stuff

00:59:36.240 --> 00:59:42.800
Like we're going back to like many many many generations in the past where we're talking about image quality differences between graphics card brands

00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:48.160
We're going to have to be pixel peeping things like the dlss quality in different games is going to be up and down

00:59:48.240 --> 00:59:53.040
Depending on different variables like this is going to be very very weird in some ways

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What's happening now is such a time as a flat circle moment

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Where yeah, everyone was expected to render the game the same way. Yeah, yeah, right because before that

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it was everything from, you know driver cheats and and anti aliasing shortcuts

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And uh, I mean and then you go back even further and everyone's using like completely different apis

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Even you've got like glide and stuff like that and then after that you've got vendor proprietary implementations of things like

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Hairworks or whatever else like this this expectation we have that everyone will render it exactly the same way

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Is actually in some ways a very a little blip in time false expectation

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It never existed before that And I got to be honest with you guys like it or don't like it. That's totally valid

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But it's never happening again Yeah, it's

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Completely over. Yeah I also want to jump in uh, nick from the Labs commented saying I did not walk away from a conversation with NVIDIA without a decent answer to a question

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And honestly, I completely agree. Yep the the event that they held

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While we were there not the keynote the event after that with reviewers was

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fantastic, I'll say this um NVIDIA

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The more dominant they've gotten in some ways the more arrogant they've gotten and the more controlling they've gotten but

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The more Open in some other ways. They have also gotten. I don't know that those things are I I understand

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They're correlated I don't I don't think there's causation. Yeah, I'm just saying their dominance is correlated to both of those other things

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Yeah, yeah, I think there's other reasons why I don't know if we want to get into those

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Things like pcat. So they're power monitoring tools things like fcat. They're frame time monitoring tools fantastic that

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Obviously they would have like had as internal tools before but releasing those to reviewers

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Is such a just like slapping your gigantic dong on the table move

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Going we want to enable reviewers to better test this stuff because we know that if they test it properly

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We are going to be we are not only so much better today But we are going to be so much better forever that we want everyone to have better tools to know it

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There's so many things I want to say right now. That is such that is such a

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dong Slonking on the table moves like it's crazy

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and Who else in the history of anything has ever done that? Can you imagine?

01:02:37.040 --> 01:02:40.080
Can you imagine bmw? being like

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Our cars are so much more efficient and so much faster than anyone else's

01:02:45.600 --> 01:02:51.440
We need to teach you how to measure and they will be until the end of time that we are literally going to develop

01:02:51.920 --> 01:03:00.240
a better dyno And we're literally going to equip the entire review sphere with particulate matter testing equipment

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So that you so that you can hold us accountable in the future if we ever fall off this

01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:14.240
This this podium that we sit atop like imagine that nobody's gonna nobody does that. That's crazy

01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:18.720
Nobody does that except NVIDIA

01:03:18.720 --> 01:03:23.920
However, I've spoken at length on this show about the way that NVIDIA also

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withholds information treats partners like non-partners

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um obfuscates

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Um, I think and I told them this to their face. I I stopped by the event

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I wasn't able to attend it because I was busy covering the rest of the show

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But I you know, I told them I think they've I think they've lost some of their fun

01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:51.520
Over the years like NVIDIA used to be able to laugh at themselves in a way that I feel like they've kind of lost

01:03:51.680 --> 01:03:54.720
And I hope that they take the feedback for what it is genuine

01:03:55.360 --> 01:04:00.400
Genuine feedback not not criticism, but feedback. Um, and I hope they can I hope they can

01:04:02.240 --> 01:04:07.840
I hope they can find ways to not take themselves too seriously not keep everything completely focused on

01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:13.200
Generating shareholder value. Um, I don't think you're wrong, but I feel like like the world

01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:18.800
And the industry combined are all having the same problem. That's true. I think that's fair

01:04:19.200 --> 01:04:23.280
I don't I don't know that this is NVIDIA specific like I think that's fair. Yeah

01:04:24.240 --> 01:04:28.480
Laughing is bad for shareholders. Yeah, but yeah, like genuinely do not

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Watch or read one review

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For 5 000 series. Yeah do more than that at least due to I would honestly suggest more than that

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It's it's this is going to be super weird I think it's going to be really really interesting to see what all the different reviewers do to try to find a way to communicate

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The performance of this thing performance differences because cranking all the ai assist to the max

01:04:52.720 --> 01:04:55.840
I can tell you that's not the answer. Yeah, but turning them all off

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It's also not really the answer. That's not a real answer either and both of those both of those are wrong

01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:08.240
What's right? I don't know. Yeah, and I think everyone's going to have to come up with their own answers

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And I think evaluating performance with these cards is going to be really complicated

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I actually want to segue into our next topic here, which is a really interesting

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Re-review slash investigation that hardware unboxed and hardware canucks have done with Intel's arc b580 finding that

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Oh, somebody just collapsed the topic finding that it has

01:05:30.240 --> 01:05:34.880
A complicated performance profile depending on what you bench it with

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So while making a video about the arc b580 hardware canucks ran into problems when pairing the Intel GPU with older hardware

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They tested on an i5 9600k on a z390 motherboard with resizable bar on now Intel has been completely upfront

01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:59.840
That resizable bar is a nest is necessary. Yeah, we were like, you know, hey, how much performance uplift downlift whatever and they're like

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Doesn't matter turn it on turn it on It's basically from our point of view the minimum system requirements are you have rebar period

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Okay, all right fair enough in many games

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Performance seems to be on par with the competition But in other games the b580 struggled to keep up with even a gtx 1660 super and this is a card that performed

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Abressed with a 40 60 even sometimes a 40 60 ti in our review

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An important note by the way Intel arc does not officially support ninth gen Intel cpus and 300 series chipsets

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Even if they have rebar these are six to seven years old

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With 15th gen chips releasing in october of 2024 so that that's that's important to note but until only explicitly ever said hey

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You got to have rebar They didn't they never really said okay, you can't I got official support. Okay. Well, whatever take it for what it is official support

01:07:00.160 --> 01:07:03.520
Okay, well, what about AMD hardware unboxed did some testing

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They found that officially supported AMD cpus like the Ryzen 550 600 and the 3000 series

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Also saw significant drop-offs in performance

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arc seems to have more CPU overhead whether it's in its drivers or I guess it would have to be its drivers

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Compared to other cards So as you go down in generation and down in the product stack to older less performance cpus

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Graphics performance is seriously impacted in games that are especially already CPU intensive

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Lower frame rates like when running in 1440p are less impacted than higher FPS 1080p results, which makes sense

01:07:39.120 --> 01:07:45.520
Because 1440p with you know medium or high details is going to be a lot more GPU bound and a lot less CPU bound

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Hardware unboxed put up a more extensive review today. This says today, but when were these notes written?

01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:57.120
Whatever recently with some interesting results So go check those out when we're done here both hardware conox and hardware unboxed report

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That Intel is aware of their findings and is currently looking into the matter

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I mean here's a question that looks like it was it was today 16 hours ago

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discussion question How many generations of cpus and chipsets should we reasonably expect a GPU maker to support?

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And I think that's a complicated answer because in the case of something like a 5090

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I wouldn't even think that it was that outlandish if NVIDIA came out and said. Yep. Here's the 5090

01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:36.160
It's $2,000 We're offering official support for Ryzen 7000 Ryzen 9000 and Intel 13 standing up

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Because Realistically the vast majority of people buying this thing are either buying it in a brand new system

01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:49.760
Don't underestimate how many people are buying gpus in full systems that the like discrete individual GPU market

01:08:51.360 --> 01:08:54.240
You don't matter straight up because I don't know if this is private or not

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I was talking to an si while I was at the event They said they've never had this many pre-orders and they did

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Genuinely zero marketing to the point where they almost hit it. They've never had this many pre-orders

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Don't underestimate it and then number two option is they're putting it into a system

01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:18.320
That is probably pretty new if you have $2,000 to spend on a GPU. You have a freaking ton of money to spend on

01:09:19.200 --> 01:09:24.560
You know not a GPU. Yeah Unless you're crazy in which case. I mean you do you

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However I'm going to offer an alternative take on that if you are pitching your card as a value card

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It's 250 bucks. I think if you come out and say, yeah, we support this generation and the last generation

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You're going to get laughed out of the room much like Intel did with arc alchemist

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Because it was an even bigger problem then to only support rebar platforms

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Because rebar was a relatively new innovation or it was relatively new at least to consumer platforms

01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:57.600
And so with with b580 coming in essentially requiring not only rebar

01:09:58.400 --> 01:10:02.080
Which I think would have been fine at this point because that takes you back like at least five years

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How far how far back do we have to go for rebar? I think about five years

01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:10.560
So that takes you back a good number of years not just that but requiring a recent platform

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I think it really harms the value proposition of the card

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so

01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:24.560
I guess We'll see how this plays out. I mean, I'm trying to think back. I forget whether it was AMD or NVIDIA

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I think it wasn't video a while back where and when I say a while back

01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:34.160
I'm talking like eight or 10 years or something like that where it was found that their driver overhead

01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:41.360
Was greater than AMD's and so their performance ranking was changing the old the farther back you went like there was a similar

01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.840
Similar conversation. Okay. Well, if you remember it, then it must be eight plus years ago

01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:52.880
And NVIDIA went to work And they they cleaned up their driver and they they made it less overhead

01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:56.880
And they like talked about that over the next couple of cycles and then it has become less of a conversation

01:10:57.440 --> 01:10:59.920
I'm hoping that that's something that

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Intel can do I don't know that for sure, but given the kind of progress that we've seen on their driver

01:11:08.160 --> 01:11:10.160
development over the last couple of years I

01:11:11.280 --> 01:11:18.880
I have I have some Faith it's blind faith. So take it for what it is. But I I I hope they are able to do this

01:11:19.440 --> 01:11:23.920
Um, are we supposed to discuss the hoodies we're wearing at some point Dan? Is that

01:11:24.480 --> 01:11:30.800
Something that has happened or that's part of announcements, which we can go to in two minutes if you want. Okay. Why don't we do two minutes by two minutes?

01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:36.000
That's what the timer says We could start it now. I think I just read what's on the prompt timer

01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:39.200
I sure I can I can talk more about things

01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:45.040
No, no, you can literally start whenever you want. Okay, let's do it. Let's do announcements. Where are they? I can't find them

01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:51.520
Oh, here they are Uh, do I need to do explain merge messages or is that later? No, that's uh, that's all part of this section

01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:56.960
Yeah, okay. All right merge messages if you guys want to interact with the show the best way to do it is a merge message

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We don't want you to just throw your money at the screen to send a message We want you guys to get something in return. So check out

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lttstore.com and in the cart you'll see a little box called merge messages

01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:12.480
You can send a message to the show while we're live. It'll go to producer Dan who will pop it up on the screen

01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.760
reply to it himself or curate it for me and

01:12:16.080 --> 01:12:22.320
Luke who will hopefully give you an answer that is satisfactory sometimes. Hey, it ain't that satisfactory, but uh

01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:28.320
Them's the brakes. That's what I tell my wife anyway So why don't we show them a couple merge messages?

01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:31.760
mood

01:12:34.080 --> 01:12:36.080
I showed you my merge message, please respond

01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:41.680
Scene that's too real my dudes

01:12:42.320 --> 01:12:46.480
What common arguments do you three typically have with your significant others?

01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:49.520
What are they usually about and how do they end?

01:12:50.080 --> 01:12:54.960
Enjoy this money made from my job as a spacecraft systems engineer. Cool job. Nice

01:12:55.840 --> 01:13:00.640
Cool job. That's sick You're so cool

01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:07.360
What arguments I would say meaning of words

01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:14.640
Really? Yeah Are you both pedants? Sorry. Are you are you are you are you are you suggesting one for me or telling me yours? No mine

01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:18.640
Oh, okay I get really particular. Yeah

01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:25.280
All right. Well, I like I'll be wrong and then fully embrace it because I'm like if that's the definition of words

01:13:25.280 --> 01:13:28.320
That's what it is. All right. Oh, this is sick

01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:31.600
I like this

01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:47.360
Hello, dear heart you're live on the wancho Okay. Hey, um, so someone asked, uh, what's the our most common argument?

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What's it usually about and how does it typically end?

01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:55.920
And I I couldn't really think of it off the top of my head

01:13:55.920 --> 01:14:00.240
I think our most common argument is usually about how we're communicating with each other

01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:05.680
And it usually ends with us being like, okay, this is something you can do better and this is something I can do better

01:14:07.440 --> 01:14:14.400
Um So I don't know if it's like about a specific thing rather just like the way we communicate that makes sense

01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:21.680
Oh, you know what? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yvonne's being really nice about it. But um, sometimes I can be like cranky and dismissive

01:14:22.320 --> 01:14:29.280
and um And that that's probably the fight we've had the most in the last like six months. Do you think that's fair?

01:14:30.240 --> 01:14:33.360
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, okay. All right. Um

01:14:35.360 --> 01:14:38.720
Yeah, and so usually what it amounts to is

01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:46.160
um What can we do to to de-escalate a situation and I think we've gotten a lot better at it

01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:51.040
Like maybe last like two years

01:14:51.040 --> 01:14:55.920
Like yeah, I think it's a Something we've worked pretty hard on over the last little while. Yeah. Okay. Cause like

01:14:56.720 --> 01:15:03.840
Sometimes it's like my fault, but Yvonne in the past. Sorry. Sorry. Give me. Sorry. I can let you go. I can let you go. It's fine

01:15:04.240 --> 01:15:07.040
Okay, um, so sometimes like in the past

01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:11.120
um You know, I would

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It would a hundred percent be my fault that it started But it would be a hundred percent her fault that the temperature went from

01:15:18.480 --> 01:15:26.960
you know 98.6 is human temperature, right? So it would be like a hundred percent on her that we went to 90 from 99 to like

01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:32.880
107, you know And so I think we've both gotten way better at recognizing

01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:37.200
When the temperature is going up and just

01:15:37.200 --> 01:15:40.560
defusing it I think that's that's the biggest thing

01:15:41.360 --> 01:15:45.440
um It's almost 100 of the time

01:15:49.200 --> 01:15:52.960
No, I'm not gonna I'm not no, you know what? No, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take that one

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I would say 95 of the time It's like my fault that it starts initially though because I'm I'm like kind of inattentive

01:16:01.120 --> 01:16:08.080
slash Very add. I'm kind of difficult to get along with compared to compared to her

01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:14.080
Um, but there are there have been times when she's just like cranky because everyone's human it turns out

01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:18.720
I feel like we're probably like similar but swapped

01:16:19.200 --> 01:16:21.200
Really, okay. I

01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:25.840
Okay, I've known you a long time

01:16:27.040 --> 01:16:31.360
You can be very difficult Yeah

01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:33.680
When things start to escalate

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That's why I said swapped Yeah

01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:45.920
I've been trying to get better at that you're fine I think I've been getting a bit better at that and sometimes it's just like

01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:53.200
Oh my god, this doesn't matter and why has this escalated to this point to the point where like after an exec meeting

01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:57.120
I'm like messaging or calling him after I'm like, are you okay?

01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:00.320
Because like you seem very mad

01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:05.360
To his credit, um, he's pretty good at like

01:17:06.160 --> 01:17:10.400
cooling off and Reengaging the next time and like everything's fine

01:17:11.120 --> 01:17:15.360
But what he doesn't do Is actually get on the same page about that

01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:21.600
with the other person So like he's fine. It's like yeah, but nobody else is fine yet, luke

01:17:22.320 --> 01:17:26.000
And like you took this from 99 to 110

01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:31.120
Yeah, anyway Yeah, that sounds about right

01:17:31.200 --> 01:17:34.800
Been trying to get better at that though, you know, I think you have. Yeah, I think you have

01:17:35.200 --> 01:17:37.920
Yeah, I think probably the most recent one was

01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:45.360
The exec meeting over your issue with like our apple vision pro coverage being kind of late

01:17:46.240 --> 01:17:52.240
And like I was basically like, yeah, you know, there are challenges because we don't have access with apple and like

01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:57.200
Um, and like like you're more mad about that than I was mad about it

01:17:57.280 --> 01:18:02.000
But in the meeting I was laying out the reasons why we were when we were

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And and I think you were basically like well these reasons aren't good enough

01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:10.720
And we should just move heaven and earth to do better

01:18:11.040 --> 01:18:14.480
And so what I was trying and and I and I agree we should do better

01:18:15.040 --> 01:18:21.120
But I was trying to lay out the devil's advocate argument for why it was what it was

01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:25.120
And you're like this is the tech event of the year. I'm like, okay. Yes, luke

01:18:25.120 --> 01:18:29.680
But what we need to do is take a deep breath right now. We missed it. He did not want to take a deep breath

01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:33.840
That's true. Um And and and the part of the part of the challenge

01:18:34.480 --> 01:18:37.920
With this guy is that he can be both right

01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:43.440
And also way out of line That sounds about right

01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:50.800
And you gotta yeah, no, this is great nerdy says luke is just passionate and and and that's right

01:18:51.120 --> 01:18:54.880
And that's true and we should be passionate. It's usually just because yeah, I'm really into it

01:18:55.120 --> 01:19:01.040
And then uh, it's not like I've left the team if that makes sense. Yeah, so I also try to get over it and keep moving

01:19:01.120 --> 01:19:08.560
Yeah, but yeah, and there's flaws to that path sometimes and that's one of yeah, that's one of the that's one of the reasons that like

01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:16.640
That's one of the reasons that working in a creative industry working in a um working in a fast-paced industry can be really challenging

01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:20.480
Is because the only people that are here are here because they want to be here

01:19:20.480 --> 01:19:24.880
These are these are creative talented people that could go work somewhere else that they feel like it

01:19:25.280 --> 01:19:29.680
Like that's something that I feel like people are often missing from the conversations around

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You know, especially like unionization here and stuff like that is

01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:38.400
We don't have a gun to anybody's head They don't got to be here

01:19:38.400 --> 01:19:41.840
Right like this they're not standing on an assembly line

01:19:42.400 --> 01:19:46.960
Putting cogs together the way that they have for 30 years because that's literally the only job skill

01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:51.200
They have because that's the only thing that we've ever trained them to do and the only thing they've ever done

01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:56.320
Where the vast majority of the people here are working in uh

01:19:56.800 --> 01:20:01.840
They're working on like a different thing from day to day especially on like and I when I say the creative side of the team

01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:06.880
I don't just mean video like I mean everything from product design to social media like we're

01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:14.160
We're in a very very dynamic company in a very very rapidly changing space

01:20:14.400 --> 01:20:19.120
Like you look at almost any other industry go back 10 years. Look at where we were 10 years ago

01:20:19.360 --> 01:20:22.800
Find me something else that's changed that much. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty nuts

01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:27.520
It's sprung up practically overnight and that kind of thing takes place

01:20:28.160 --> 01:20:31.840
Not just at the at the top levels of our company, but from top to bottom

01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:37.040
And so I think that that's something that a lot of people are are missing or or or

01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:43.360
Misunderstanding is that people are here because they want to be here. They're here because they're doing something that matters

01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:52.720
and they're here because They want to be and if they don't want to be I mean I've said this in the past then like I don't I don't want them here

01:20:53.360 --> 01:21:02.720
Why would I? They can be somewhere else so like go do it and we've had people that have like left and gone on to have great careers. Oh

01:21:04.160 --> 01:21:06.480
Guess who I ran into at CES Brandon

01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:14.000
Why do you know I know that do you like taking wind out of my sails like is that is that actually a hobby of yours?

01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:19.520
Like if you listed your hobbies Would be like

01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:22.720
And like

01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:32.000
To a certain degree it's gotta it's gotta be up there somewhere. No we uh when we were going through customs

01:21:32.320 --> 01:21:36.240
Back in bc having landed we figured out that we were on each other's

01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:41.840
Flight hilarious didn't realize the whole time just by it like being delayed for five hours and all this other kind of stuff

01:21:42.080 --> 01:21:50.000
Didn't realize until then Yeah, so I ran into I ran into brandon lee. We've we're finally getting that movie night scheduled

01:21:50.240 --> 01:21:54.080
Is it actually well I asked vance to do it. So yes, it will end up on the schedule

01:21:54.080 --> 01:21:57.520
They never followed up not yet because we were both done in CES. So vance knows

01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:03.200
um, so yeah, I'm just I I don't schedule my time anymore because if I do

01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:07.200
Someone else is just going to schedule something on top of it. Anyway, so there's just no point

01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:18.240
So for for personal obligations Yvonne helps me and then for work obligations. Vance helps me. This one's complicated. Yeah, I was gonna say wait. Hold on because like because like

01:22:19.200 --> 01:22:24.880
Brandon so those of you who are very new to the channel, uh, brandon lee was uh, one of our camera operators

01:22:25.280 --> 01:22:30.080
Slash, he actually started as an editor slash. He had hosted and written over the years

01:22:30.400 --> 01:22:35.520
again, one of those one of these multi talented people that is very multi talented and

01:22:36.160 --> 01:22:43.680
Um, could could do anything right. He's he's a could do anything kind of guy. Anyway, so so he left a while back and um

01:22:44.400 --> 01:22:51.120
So What is it? Is it personal? Because he's also a fellow creator. So he's got his own channel now

01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:59.600
So so that we could maybe talk about potential Professional I didn't know what it was. So I said to vance. I was like vance. Can you schedule a time for us to have a movie night?

01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:04.480
And luke's supposed to come too. So um, so anyway, yeah, so so I ran ran into brandon at the show

01:23:04.480 --> 01:23:10.960
It was awesome. It was good to see him. I felt so isolated since covet. We've done some collabs like we went on calling in samir

01:23:11.440 --> 01:23:16.480
um The collabs have been cool. The one with big time our big time with um

01:23:17.360 --> 01:23:21.840
Oh my goodness mighty car mods. What am I talking about big time? Uh, although we do have the sponsorship with big time

01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:28.640
That's why they were on my brain. Um, Dude, they had the one with dr. Murrow. We finally we're finally doing some collabs again, but we've done very few tech

01:23:29.440 --> 01:23:35.760
Creator collabs. So running into austin in line for the NVIDIA event was great. So he made a cameo in our video

01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:41.440
I don't know if you saw that. No, that's cool. Um, so I I had andrew who wasn't recording the keynote dude

01:23:42.320 --> 01:23:44.720
Okay, I don't go to keynotes because I think they're stupid

01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:50.640
Not because the keynote or the information is stupid, but because attending in person is so pointless

01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:53.760
You know something we missed out on though. Yeah, we should have re-streamed it

01:23:54.480 --> 01:24:00.160
Why commentary I mean I had people in the audience like shitting me whenever I was talking

01:24:00.160 --> 01:24:03.280
No, no, no like sit in the hotel room or something and just watch it there. Oh sure

01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:06.880
But anyway, there was there was like thousands of people in this arena

01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:10.640
You have a way worse view than if you're just sitting watching on your laptop

01:24:11.120 --> 01:24:16.880
If you're making content way worse, you're not set up with your stuff to like make content about it immediately

01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:21.200
General attendees were in the stands. They had vip whatever that really means

01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:26.000
Like 30 rows of it in the front on the flat ground and then media was behind them

01:24:26.320 --> 01:24:31.760
And it was still flat ground so media had like the worst seats in the entire and it's so ridiculous because the thing starts

01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:36.800
And everybody like turns on their phones and yeah And I'm I'm like anything cool happens people stand up

01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:42.560
I'm making like snarky little comments to Austin. I'm like, yeah, you better make sure you capture this because like

01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:46.640
There will be no way to get there will be no way to get this footage later

01:24:47.040 --> 01:24:51.200
Like NVIDIA's streaming it live. What are you doing? What are you even? What are you even doing?

01:24:51.440 --> 01:24:57.040
Yeah The one thing that was worth it gas racing and Floatplane chess is the one part that was kind of worth it

01:24:57.280 --> 01:25:02.640
Was them rickrolling us before the presentation started. That was pretty funny. They just almost no one reacted. I know

01:25:03.040 --> 01:25:05.840
That was weird. I know it's because it's all like investors and stuff

01:25:07.440 --> 01:25:10.320
Like the media would have known no like rickroll anymore

01:25:11.440 --> 01:25:18.160
Terrible that was odd. Um But yeah, like I'm just I'm I'm just I'm just I'm just looking at it and I'm just like

01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:23.680
Why are we even here? This is so stupid. Where where was what was I talking about? Oh, right?

01:25:24.080 --> 01:25:26.960
So I've we've done so few collaborate. Oh, right. Yeah, it's so Austin

01:25:27.200 --> 01:25:32.960
So uh, so Andrew sitting next to me not videoing anything because obviously not if you need any footage of it

01:25:33.280 --> 01:25:38.880
NVIDIA literally had on four cables a hovering camera above the crowd getting the best possible angle

01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:42.160
Why are we holding up our phones like this like a bunch of idiots? um

01:25:42.160 --> 01:25:47.040
But anyway, I was like and you turn on the camera turn on the camera and we get a quick clip of me being like

01:25:48.240 --> 01:25:52.320
I'll believe it when I see it to to austin and so we cut that into the intro

01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:58.960
And so he just made like a like a two second cameo in the video and seeing people freak out in the comments is great

01:25:59.040 --> 01:26:01.520
That's so much fun with stuff like that. I mean, it's awesome. Um

01:26:02.320 --> 01:26:05.440
I think i'm in oh dude I'm in I think i'm in one of his videos

01:26:05.440 --> 01:26:08.800
But again, it was just as like a cameo like he

01:26:09.280 --> 01:26:15.360
Asked someone to to do something or he's like on his way to something and then he like asked me my opinion

01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:19.440
And I go to talk and he's like, oh actually wait. There's someone else and he goes and like talks to them like just

01:26:20.160 --> 01:26:23.120
Just a very short thing. I'm not sure if that video is up yet. I gotta I gotta go look

01:26:24.080 --> 01:26:31.040
Oh, no. Yeah, I just read that Dinner beef says did you see that both collin and samir's houses are gone?

01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:36.720
I heard about kyle already. We were going to be talking about that later on the show, but that is absolutely

01:26:37.440 --> 01:26:43.520
devastating Obviously it's been said but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be said again

01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:49.920
I just want to commend the bravery of the firefighters that are down in california right now fighting these

01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:55.840
I also want to condemn anyone who is turning this this tragic loss of

01:26:56.400 --> 01:27:03.360
Life and property and natural resources and beauty and all the things that we're losing right now into a political thing

01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:06.240
Um, it it has nothing. I didn't know that

01:27:07.280 --> 01:27:13.440
It was it was literally gale force winds blowing embers around starting fires faster than any

01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:22.000
any fire preparedness Um system possibly could have been ready for and it is a tragedy and we should

01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:30.880
Recognize it for what it is a terrible terrible tragedy and just focus on doing what we can to help the people that are affected by it

01:27:31.120 --> 01:27:39.280
Canada sent some water bombers. Yeah, that was cool. Thank you very much. That is how neighbors behave. Yeah, um heck yeah

01:27:40.240 --> 01:27:46.240
And i'm i'm extremely i'm extremely proud of of our boys heading down there. Thank you very much

01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:48.960
um firefighters are

01:27:51.200 --> 01:27:56.800
Underrated based period and i'm not even saying that because like, you know

01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:02.960
His brother's firefighter. Yeah, he's based too. Yeah, um, but yeah firefighters respect

01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:10.320
They do a lot of things that really suck a lot and then they get like rewarded with fighting fires sometimes

01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:14.880
Crazy some of the stories man like

01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:22.240
They're the first responders for basically everything. Yeah, meaning often they see the worst of it. Yeah

01:28:23.440 --> 01:28:25.440
Um, it's rough

01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:37.440
Yeah, um So i've for those of you, uh, who have who are asking because a lot of other people kind of posted publicly about it

01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:43.840
Uh, yes, I have already reached out to kyle Um, if there's anything that we can do, uh, we'll do it. Um

01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:48.880
I I don't want to I don't want to disclose anything about his situation

01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:53.040
So i'll i'll leave it to him to kind of communicate in in good time

01:28:53.120 --> 01:28:58.160
But uh, hey if there was ever a time to go check out one of bitwit's videos

01:28:58.240 --> 01:29:01.760
Or you know, go watch one of colin and samir's videos or something like that

01:29:02.240 --> 01:29:06.640
To to share the channels or or share some really good videos you think your friends might enjoy

01:29:07.280 --> 01:29:12.080
Now is a good time because you know It's going to be a little challenging for them for a while

01:29:13.200 --> 01:29:15.920
At the very least at the very least

01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:25.280
Yeah, um, all right, what is next on the schedule Dan did we did we only do one merge message?

01:29:25.280 --> 01:29:31.360
Yeah, why don't we do another merge message and then um, yeah, we asked what your most horrible relationship fights are about

01:29:31.440 --> 01:29:37.920
And then we ended up with the fire Oh, brian. Lovely. Hold on. We got one quick thing. Yes, kyle is in bitwit moo

01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:44.400
One last thing, uh, brian. Lovely says Linus. Did you see that the drone pilot that took out one of canada's water bombers?

01:29:44.480 --> 01:29:46.480
Yeah, get your fucking drones out of the sky

01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:51.680
People got real shit to do Stop it. Yeah, that's really stupid

01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.720
You're an idiot like you're actually a complete idiot

01:29:55.280 --> 01:29:57.280
You're lucky nobody died

01:29:59.440 --> 01:30:04.160
Okay, anyway Okay, hi Dan. Hey, let's do another one here

01:30:05.200 --> 01:30:10.560
Let's see friendly dll. What's the best way to make my nas faster for video editing and playing games?

01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:16.080
I got a synology 1522 plus that i'm happy with except the speed

01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:19.760
Which upgrade route do you recommend time to build a nas?

01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:25.200
Yeah, there's not much you can be able to do about the one that you have I think that's the thing about these box nazis

01:30:25.360 --> 01:30:30.080
Because I saw a lot of people were really confused about hex os the the nas

01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:33.600
os that I invested in that is based on true nas

01:30:34.320 --> 01:30:41.040
They're like, what is this even for if people want it to be easy? They can just you know buy one of these pre-done nas boxes

01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:45.440
and The answer is that yeah, you could do that

01:30:46.080 --> 01:30:53.440
but Your your software license is locked to the hard the overpriced hardware that you bought and when it comes time to upgrade that overpriced hardware

01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:58.480
You're buying a whole new box That's how they get you you pay for it somewhere. Yeah, I get it

01:30:58.880 --> 01:31:05.120
xos Launched at a hundred dollars for the lifetime license and then went up to 200 and when they go full v1.0

01:31:05.200 --> 01:31:07.840
It'll be 300 dollars for a lifetime license, which is a lot of money

01:31:08.480 --> 01:31:11.360
But if you are going to have even two nazis

01:31:12.080 --> 01:31:15.280
In your life, I promise you you're spending more than 300 dollars on the software

01:31:15.280 --> 01:31:17.760
You just don't know it because it isn't broken out as a line item

01:31:18.480 --> 01:31:21.920
um so upgrade route

01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:25.120
xos is still in early access. I would say maybe

01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:34.160
Building yourself a nas it's definitely going to be a good way to go. We've done some videos recently kind of talking through it

01:31:34.160 --> 01:31:38.800
I'd say the one where we built one for mark rober is the most kind of up-to-date

01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:45.920
That I would that I would probably that I would probably look at obviously you're not going to put as many hard drives in as mark rober did

01:31:46.320 --> 01:31:54.080
Oh another really good one John's bonus, uh, we actually have at least one person on staff who watched this video and was like, I'm just going to build that

01:31:54.160 --> 01:31:57.760
Hit me. Oh, that's right. That's right. It's Dan. I also built uh, well

01:31:57.840 --> 01:32:01.040
I assembled a mark rober's one too that we shipped him I believe

01:32:01.120 --> 01:32:06.880
So that one I would watch those two if you're looking for videos from us on building your own nas that one's very

01:32:07.600 --> 01:32:11.840
Big boy nas. Yeah. Yeah, that one's that one's pretty nice, but it's for you know, it's for mark rober, right?

01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:15.520
So it's like the synology the specific synology model that that person has

01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:20.720
You can upgrade the memory and you can add some scalability in terms of adding drive bays

01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:27.040
But like you're not going to make it faster. Yep. Not going to happen. Sorry, buddy. All right. What's next mr. Dan?

01:32:27.440 --> 01:32:31.120
Oh All right announcements. What shirt are you wearing?

01:32:31.600 --> 01:32:35.120
introducing the couch potato

01:32:35.120 --> 01:32:42.640
end of the hot potato hoodies Picking the right game to play finding the right youtube video to watch being a couch potato

01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:51.920
It's not as simple as it seems That's why we've developed the couch potato hoodie a cotton tarry hooded sweatshirt that is optimized for peak inactivity

01:32:52.400 --> 01:32:58.320
It's basically a 2.0 version of the uncle Linus hoodie from 2023's april fools if you guys remember that

01:32:59.120 --> 01:33:04.240
And the reason that we brought it back is because the feedback on that thing was

01:33:05.200 --> 01:33:12.000
people Love their uncle Linus hoodies, but we couldn't bring it back in the exact same form because we said it was exclusive so

01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:16.400
True to our word. We're bringing it back in a completely different form

01:33:16.480 --> 01:33:21.440
It's deceptively cozy even though it looks like a potato sack and the cotton tarry fabric is

01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:25.920
Really comfy while also being quite breathable and

01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:32.000
For a bonus we have a very special very limited edition version

01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:39.520
that we are calling The hot potato hoodie and i've been asked to open the box that's in front of me

01:33:40.240 --> 01:33:46.240
If I can figure out which side of it's uh, fancy. That's a fancy box fancy

01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:52.080
Okay, oh That's what it's gonna look

01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:58.560
This is what it's gonna look like when you open it not only is it the best color way out there totally unbiased take

01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:04.160
Um, it comes in a collectible gift box and comes with a signed certificate of authenticity signed by me

01:34:04.160 --> 01:34:07.040
This one's not signed because this one is fake. There are only

01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:12.000
Really? Okay. All right, we're doing this again. There are only 69 available

01:34:12.320 --> 01:34:17.680
So get them while they are nice and hot. You can check them both out at LMG.gg

01:34:18.160 --> 01:34:22.800
Slash potato they should be going live or right now and they're going live right now

01:34:23.200 --> 01:34:26.400
All right, so be ready for some merch messages down

01:34:27.200 --> 01:34:30.000
Well, not too many only under a hundred

01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:34.560
And now we have another game. Yeah, but people are gonna buy the they're gonna buy that one too like this is

01:34:35.120 --> 01:34:42.240
Dude, do you have no idea how many uncle line the cities we sold? They're so comfortable. They are actually I think this one's even nicer

01:34:43.120 --> 01:34:46.720
Oh, yeah, we didn't we haven't like shown them. Luke. Do you want to I don't know show the people?

01:34:51.120 --> 01:34:58.960
Oh my god Anyway, okay. So yeah, now it has uh nice ribbed sleeves and bottom you can show the the ribbing

01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:02.800
Oh, okay. You're like just leaving. Yeah, he's just he's gone and he's gone folks

01:35:03.120 --> 01:35:07.920
It has our cell phone pocket on the the right hand side by the yep by the kangaroo pocket

01:35:08.320 --> 01:35:14.560
Classic, uh, it has the nice little like, um, there's like melted plastic magigs on the ends. So they're they're nice

01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:19.760
They're not gonna they're not gonna fray We don't have the same kind of frayed stitching

01:35:20.240 --> 01:35:25.280
Like there's it's got like kind of a little bit of Kind of roughness to the edges because we want it to maintain the look

01:35:25.360 --> 01:35:28.960
But they're it's a little more finished than the original uncle Linus hoodie

01:35:29.600 --> 01:35:36.960
All right, cool Thanks, Luke. Great job. Yeah, eventually. Yeah, you got there. I had to figure out where the heck the camera was

01:35:38.240 --> 01:35:44.000
All right, so here it is Coach potato hoodie and hot potato hoodie. Oh, yeah, we didn't even show the racing stripes on the one that I'm wearing

01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:51.120
And these are probably gone already, um, how'd you wait what Tyler?

01:35:53.440 --> 01:35:57.040
How'd you get a is that edited in it looks like it. Yeah

01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:02.640
No, wait, no, no, I don't think so When was this?

01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:07.600
Oh, this is from forever ago Oh, we've been sitting on these for a while. Yeah

01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:12.800
I was like when the heck was oh, this is all the flow plane guys. That's pretty cool

01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:17.920
Here, hold on. I'm gonna look slap top Yeah, so, uh

01:36:18.160 --> 01:36:24.960
That's an awesome picture. That is an awesome picture actually. So this was when uh, the the flow plane team was up

01:36:25.040 --> 01:36:30.480
They'll have Doritos packs Um, the flow plane team was up for the christmas party

01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:36.880
So they stay up for like the week instead of just the the one day and then we we all work together locally for a little while

01:36:37.280 --> 01:36:42.880
Um, so this is this is the flow plane team sands like the infrastructure people, I guess

01:36:43.440 --> 01:36:49.680
We probably should have done a limited run of 690 of these based on how quickly it sold out, but it's gone. Oh, yeah, of course

01:36:50.240 --> 01:36:54.640
Maybe next time we'll do like I'm distracted by the flow plane pictures

01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:57.680
The reason why I had the page up was I was trying to get one of the pink ones

01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:03.360
And then I was like wait what and then I lost it. Yeah, sorry brother

01:37:04.160 --> 01:37:08.800
Sorry, brother Darn it every single size is sold out. Well, yeah

01:37:10.240 --> 01:37:14.560
I mean, yeah, I mean it's pretty cool, but don't worry. Don't worry. This one is still available

01:37:16.480 --> 01:37:24.800
And super comfy All right, let's go ahead and uh, what are we supposed to do next Dan? We have a game to play. Oh, let's play a game

01:37:24.880 --> 01:37:26.880
Oh, okay. Sure. Luke

01:37:29.360 --> 01:37:36.240
Did I just hit your hand? Sorry You've built a few computers in your heyday. Wow, that's an interesting wording. Wow, but not a few computers recently

01:37:36.240 --> 01:37:40.480
I guess. Wow. I mean, that's fairly true I'm gonna adjust it. You've built a few computers in your day

01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:45.200
Would you say you'd be pretty good at being able to tell what different pc parts are?

01:37:46.160 --> 01:37:49.680
I am going to present you with five different pc components

01:37:50.080 --> 01:37:56.160
And you are going to have to correctly identify what each component is down to size and form factor

01:37:56.960 --> 01:38:02.880
Fortunately, yikes Each one of the answers can be verified with the useful

01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:10.000
Visual references that we have on the LTT mod mat that is releasing next friday, january 17th

01:38:10.480 --> 01:38:12.480
Can I help you down? What are you doing? Can I help you?

01:38:15.440 --> 01:38:18.240
You can see Linus' discarded chip bags. Yeah

01:38:18.880 --> 01:38:21.920
Nice Really? Nice Let's go

01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:26.800
I'm gonna go all the way in on that. Oh, okay. No, no, that's fine. Okay. So hand cam. Okay, so we're so we're ready Dan

01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:31.280
Okay, so we're gonna go one at a time to use the mod mat. Okay. Oh, hold on

01:38:32.240 --> 01:38:34.240
Okay, but let's raise the stakes. Wait, what?

01:38:35.280 --> 01:38:45.120
We are going to give 100 random people who signed up for email notifications a chance at a pretty nice discount on the LTT mod

01:38:45.200 --> 01:38:54.800
mat No, wait For every part luke gets right. Okay, they get 10 off. Oh, wow. So if you get all five right

01:38:55.280 --> 01:39:01.200
100 randomly selected people will get 50 off their mod mat purchase that is below cost

01:39:01.200 --> 01:39:05.520
That is well below. I hate to break it to you guys. Um, probably not gonna do that. Great

01:39:06.160 --> 01:39:10.160
Okay, let's start nice and easy luke

01:39:10.160 --> 01:39:15.680
Here do you want to come get a get a close-up here? Luke what size motherboard is this that one? I think is itx

01:39:16.720 --> 01:39:19.360
Well, we can verify Dan. Do you want to go ahead and do the honors?

01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:25.120
Sure, uh, this is difficult. No to point it down there. Yeah, no, no, you gotta point it to

01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:32.080
And I think I just spent my I think you just used up one of my wrong ones. Really?

01:39:32.800 --> 01:39:37.040
That's not itx. What do you mean? That is mini itx. Okay

01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:39.920
Okay

01:39:42.320 --> 01:39:48.400
Yeah, I was looking at that and just I'm not giving you nothing for that You should give me that one. You get a whole lot of you get a whole lot of no

01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:54.960
You get a whole lot of nothing for that one. That one's fine. Nothing that one's fine. Okay next account next

01:39:56.160 --> 01:40:00.000
Oh, wow the the script here says all right. That was way too easy

01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:03.760
We just want to make sure people got some just you didn't get nothing. I did get it

01:40:03.840 --> 01:40:08.640
We just wanted to make sure people got some discounts. Let's turn it up a notch. If Lance doesn't give you the discount. He's a scammer

01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:18.560
What type of CPU is this oh, we need the socket type not the actual CPU model number

01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:36.320
Is it a I don't think weren't there multiple that would

01:40:37.120 --> 01:40:43.520
suit that Well, give us the best answer you can give us give us the best answer you can I'm trying to remember the name of it

01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:48.560
I'm I've never been good at this stuff 1150

01:40:51.040 --> 01:40:55.680
Sure Okay, Dan. Do you want to go ahead and put it up against the size guide?

01:40:56.320 --> 01:40:58.800
Hold on you got to show the people a little closer. Maybe

01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:10.080
There we go LGA 11 5x, you know what I'll allow that one. I'll allow that one should be allowed as well

01:41:10.240 --> 01:41:15.120
No, that's the wrong name. That's the wrong name because all the different all the different I pointed at the thing

01:41:15.280 --> 01:41:21.280
I don't think any reasonable person could be expected to remember the positions of the notches for like 11 56 11 55 11

01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:24.800
Okay, all right. All right. I pointed at the thing though. I meant literally that one. Yeah

01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:29.840
Well, then I guess you should have said the right thing. Okay. You got one. What is literally not what happened

01:41:30.080 --> 01:41:34.240
Okay, why are you against the consumer? You're against the people. Okay

01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:39.360
What size is this fan down to the millimeter 92?

01:41:40.320 --> 01:41:42.320
Dan

01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:45.680
I don't know on that one Dan. You got to point at the

01:41:47.120 --> 01:41:52.640
I'm not sure on that one. They're color-coded. See how they're color-coded So it's so it's easy to make sure that you've got them all on the right thing

01:41:53.280 --> 01:41:57.200
What's going on Dan? Dan sees he's cooking. Let him cook. Let him cook

01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:01.840
Let him cook. Just do one thing and then do the other thing here. Why don't you let me light it up and then

01:42:02.400 --> 01:42:11.760
Let me hold the camera. I got you. I got you, Dan There we go. There's two sides to it. There we go. There we go. Okay. Where are we at 92?

01:42:12.160 --> 01:42:19.920
92 millimeter. Let's go Okay, let me show that off. Okay. Don't let them get too nauseated. Okay. Sure. Yep fine. Okay good

01:42:20.720 --> 01:42:26.800
Okay, let's move away from desktops for a second here Let's imagine you're working on something that you might not always work on. Can you identify?

01:42:27.680 --> 01:42:34.080
What type of sodium memory this is? What type of sodium? DDR3 4 or 5

01:42:34.960 --> 01:42:36.960
Oh, what?

01:42:42.640 --> 01:42:49.600
I would get this but only because we've only ever gotten one sample of memory from intelligent memory

01:42:50.240 --> 01:42:55.920
And I just happened to know what it is because it was like super special high cap weird memory

01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:02.640
Um, this is I'm this is on the multiple choice where you just you yolo it. I'm going to say ddr4

01:43:03.120 --> 01:43:06.320
Okay, let's go ahead and uh, let's go ahead and check

01:43:08.080 --> 01:43:11.600
Well, we have color-coded notches. Oh, that's cool

01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:26.960
That's on the green Which if you check the legend in the top there, so that one's just a whiff is ddr3

01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:32.480
Sorry, Luke. Generally. No idea. Okay. Finally. We have the toughest one. A screw? Yeah

01:43:33.280 --> 01:43:38.560
This isn't no, this is easy. I don't know any of the screws. This is easy at all. Really?

01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:43.280
Yeah, I've never bothered. How can you not know that? Never cared. I've always thought it was weird that you knew

01:43:43.440 --> 01:43:46.880
I'm not even kidding. What? Yeah, I've never cared at all

01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:50.480
Oh Okay

01:43:50.480 --> 01:43:55.200
Why yeah, what type of screw is this? Oh man, it's an oh, wow

01:43:55.280 --> 01:43:59.520
They they actually really threw you man. They threw you a curveball. I gotta I'll say that much you can take it

01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:05.120
You can hold it not like I think what type of screw is that the only one that I think I know which is m4

01:44:05.120 --> 01:44:07.120
And I don't think is it

01:44:08.480 --> 01:44:11.760
Are you guys that is that your final answer? I think that's only

01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:17.760
Where's the chart stop looking at? Why why where is it?

01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:23.680
Is it under this? No, no, it's under the motherboard that I correctly guessed. You can't look at it. You're not allowed to look at it

01:44:24.400 --> 01:44:27.760
My bags say my my my ketchup chips bag says no

01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:38.400
I don't think this is it, but I'll say m4 m4. Okay, you know the pc um m like metric screw sizes actually m3

01:44:40.240 --> 01:44:45.120
Uh This this was a really tough one though

01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:48.320
And the reason that this was so hard

01:44:49.360 --> 01:44:54.720
Dan here. I'm actually gonna go over. I'm gonna go over there for a second. I'm just gonna kind of I'm gonna kind of yell

01:44:56.960 --> 01:45:02.080
Okay, yeah, or here you know what Dan I'll get you to show it to the people if you want to use one of the uh one of the cams

01:45:03.040 --> 01:45:05.760
No, no, you go go over there. I want to show it to them close up

01:45:06.240 --> 01:45:13.840
Okay, yeah, so I'll switch to the Linus cam and uh, I'll switch to you can use the you can use the screen next to you to try to focus it

01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:18.480
Dan Or that one. Oh, you could also use that screen. Okay, cool

01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:22.320
So the reason that this is so hard is because

01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:28.880
It has the round top like you would normally have on an m3 computer screw

01:45:29.440 --> 01:45:32.640
See that the little kind of uh ring around the top

01:45:32.720 --> 01:45:38.800
So it has the circular round top like an m3 should have but the threading is actually 632

01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:43.680
So that's a that is a really really tricky one

01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:48.960
You would have to be able to identify it by the spacing on the threads that one was brutal

01:45:49.680 --> 01:45:55.040
That was never gonna happen. Yeah. No, that's a tough one. So that's probably for a

01:45:56.000 --> 01:46:03.360
That's probably for a motherboard That um, or it's probably a motherboard screw for a case that uses 632

01:46:03.840 --> 01:46:11.200
But they like Know that the the 632s like with the ribbing on the bottom are really not that ideal for screwing in motherboard

01:46:11.200 --> 01:46:14.640
So they went with like the circular top and it's just like oh goodness

01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:22.240
That's a random People are asking how the mod mat can tell you that screw and if they can see it. Oh, yeah for sure. We can show that

01:46:22.240 --> 01:46:25.120
Yeah, Dan. I'm gonna switch back to the hand cam. Yeah, if you just want to

01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:31.520
Hold on hold on. We got to do it with the hand cam. You got to show the people the process. Where's the hand cam?

01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:35.600
Yeah, I'll hold it. Okay. Here we go. Okay here here here here here. I'm gonna stabilize here

01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:37.600
So Luke's gonna have to talk us through this

01:46:40.560 --> 01:46:42.560
Linus is holding a camera

01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:48.240
Dan's looking around he's comparing the screws to

01:46:49.760 --> 01:46:53.680
Well, he's trying to do something with tweezers. I don't know why he doesn't just use his hands

01:46:55.360 --> 01:46:59.600
There we go. So he's he's comparing the screws to the things on the mod mat

01:47:02.400 --> 01:47:09.600
He's looking at the thread comparison between what's on the mat and the screw that he's holding. Yeah, okay

01:47:10.320 --> 01:47:14.000
So that's basically it. It's it's 632. Yeah. Yeah, and he found the right one

01:47:15.040 --> 01:47:18.640
Which is luckily kind of actually the first one. Yeah, so we we have both

01:47:19.120 --> 01:47:26.080
We have both indicators. I'm back to the web We have indicators for both like about how long the screws should be and also

01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:32.800
Blown up illustrations so you can see what the spacing is kind of supposed to look like to help you identify screws

01:47:33.440 --> 01:47:37.600
Not through trial and error because if you put an m3 in a 632 standoff

01:47:38.160 --> 01:47:41.440
It'll just like come out and it's like it doesn't really matter

01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:45.680
If you if you if your motherboard is like

01:47:46.320 --> 01:47:51.840
Wrenched against something like to get it into the back because your back plate is not perfectly aligned like a lot of older cases

01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:57.760
The tolerance is pretty far off a 632 will an m3 will hold in a 632 standoff because it'll be like

01:47:58.160 --> 01:48:02.080
Pushed against it by the force of the motherboard and it'll kind of catch the threads on the one side

01:48:02.240 --> 01:48:07.200
I've experienced that before don't do that But if you put a 632 screw into an m3

01:48:07.520 --> 01:48:11.440
It'll thread like three quarters of a turn and then it'll seize and then

01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:15.120
You have to like take that out and it'll probably pull the standoff out

01:48:15.120 --> 01:48:22.080
So then you have to take out everything else take the whole motherboard out Get a pair of pliers or a little wrench or something take it apart put the standoff back in and then do it again

01:48:22.080 --> 01:48:25.440
So it's it's really tedious. It's nicer to just be able to to to check

01:48:26.080 --> 01:48:29.920
Tell you what guys. I'll tell you what Jojo

01:48:29.920 --> 01:48:34.320
O 227 in the Floatplane chat says luke is correct for the itx question

01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:39.760
That last one was pretty that was pretty tough. No, the screw was wrong. That was pretty I got the screw wrong for sure

01:48:39.920 --> 01:48:42.960
I was never gonna get it, but that last question was pretty tough. So

01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:47.520
so Okay, all right

01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:51.920
Because that one I I actually agree that that one was that one's pretty brutal. So let's say four out of five

01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:54.160
We'll say four out of five. I'll take four out of five. All right

01:48:55.280 --> 01:49:04.960
Um, so that's 40 off for a hundred Lucky people who are signed up at LMG.gg slash mod mat. You guys can still sign up

01:49:05.440 --> 01:49:08.960
And qualify to potentially get the 40 off discount

01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:16.560
Can I help you you seem concerned I just realized something but I I think I don't say it

01:49:18.240 --> 01:49:21.920
Okay Neat

01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:26.880
Uh Dan Dan, do you know? what

01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:34.400
No, what Did you get oh wait, did he get too wrong aside from the thing I said wait, hold on hold on a second

01:49:34.960 --> 01:49:41.280
We need to move on to some additional Oh, we got the RAM wrong. We gotta cover a topic. We got more topics to do

01:49:42.480 --> 01:49:44.480
I think you said I think you said the

01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:51.840
All right I'm a man of my word if I said 40 off then it's 40 and now you have to pay an extra 40 percent

01:49:54.080 --> 01:49:58.880
It's only a hundred orders. It won't hurt that much. All right. That's fine. That's fine. I got the RAM wrong man

01:49:59.120 --> 01:50:03.600
Yeah, I was never good at that the only reason the only reason I knew that

01:50:04.320 --> 01:50:12.240
I would know desktop. I'd be able to do desktop But the old actually half ddr4 ddr5 desktop would be tough because of how yeah exactly well

01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:20.000
Angles Yeah, yeah, I know the the bottom below the fingers below the little golden fingers is shaped differently

01:50:20.080 --> 01:50:26.720
I would probably be able to do desktop without too much trouble But laptop I just haven't worked on enough to know where the where the notches are

01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:30.480
I would have an issue with four versus five on desktop. I'm just being honest. Yeah

01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:34.240
No, that's fair, but that's very yeah three is way off center

01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:40.000
And then four and five are both really close to center It's just more the different shape at the bottom of the the blade where it goes in

01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:48.000
But since yeah since five came out. I've built very few computers. So like experiencing that difference. Yeah. No, that's fair

01:50:48.400 --> 01:50:54.960
That's fair The labels were covered the labels are covered nick nick from the Labs. Like I just checked the labels

01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:59.680
Wow, what a guy What a guy

01:51:00.320 --> 01:51:03.920
All right next topic Luke. Do you want to pick one? Sure

01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:10.320
Should we talk about ces ces 2025? Yeah, topic. Yeah, we could do that

01:51:11.040 --> 01:51:19.920
So this is a question for all three of us But can you name your top three products you saw top is not defined here top is tough

01:51:20.320 --> 01:51:24.800
Do we say interesting or best? Um interesting is we could do

01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:31.840
We could do interesting. I mean I think everyone's definition of interesting is going to be so different. Like I was surprised

01:51:32.240 --> 01:51:36.320
I was surprised to see stern there. Yeah, like pinball pinball brand

01:51:37.120 --> 01:51:43.600
Just chilling in the in the uh, what was that the central hall? I think it was the like big expensive hall like okay

01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:47.680
Yeah, and and dude I got to say as someone who's never torn down a pinball machine

01:51:47.760 --> 01:51:52.640
But who definitely appreciates that there is some tech in it. I didn't realize how much tech was in it

01:51:52.880 --> 01:51:59.360
They had a really cool demo where they had the front and back side of one of their one of their new tables in

01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:08.000
Uh in like an acrylic vertical case So you could see everything moving and lighting up on the front and you could see everything

01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:12.640
Actuating and firing on the back and all the PCBs and everything was super cool. Yeah

01:52:13.280 --> 01:52:19.520
Yeah, and so it's like this it's this analog experience that is very much enhanced by

01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:23.920
By by digital aids. I thought I thought it was great. I thought it was super cool

01:52:24.400 --> 01:52:28.720
So I'm I'm gonna say that's I'm gonna say that's that's one of my picks. You're supposed to yeah, you got two more

01:52:29.120 --> 01:52:35.120
I go around one. Yeah, let's go. Let's go one at a time Okay, because it gives me time to think about my other two something that I really liked

01:52:35.120 --> 01:52:39.520
But it was way too expensive and not quite good enough was a chess robot

01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:45.040
Oh, dude, I played it super cool for like two moves. Yeah, but like I got I did see it

01:52:45.040 --> 01:52:51.280
I Would never how much was it? Did they say I was in the US dog

01:52:52.320 --> 01:53:01.120
so so it So it had a has a little face in the screen and it like says stuff and like thanks you for your match and whatever

01:53:01.360 --> 01:53:04.880
And then it has like a robot ARM that actually sit like moves the piece

01:53:06.240 --> 01:53:13.840
And then like And so it obviously has some kind of uh near field something in your pieces that uh

01:53:13.920 --> 01:53:17.360
Oh, it uses a camera to tell what I think it has a camera. Oh, that's kind of stupid

01:53:17.360 --> 01:53:20.320
Well, I would I would just put sensors in the bottom of the board

01:53:20.400 --> 01:53:25.840
It has like a little ARM that sticks out I didn't actually ask what it was but it has a little ARM that sticks out and there's a thing that looks down

01:53:25.840 --> 01:53:29.520
So I thought it was a camera. Did we look at different chess playing robots? We might have

01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:35.440
Sensor robot was the brand that I had looked at sensor robot

01:53:37.360 --> 01:53:40.400
Uh, okay, hold on. We might have looked at different chess playing robots

01:53:41.360 --> 01:53:46.000
uh Sensor robot Wait, hold on. Is this the one I saw?

01:53:46.640 --> 01:53:50.960
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is the one. Okay. Maybe I didn't notice uh, it

01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:55.440
Yeah, oh this thing at the top there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I think you're right. I think it does use a camera

01:53:55.520 --> 01:54:00.080
Yeah, no, that seems like uh, that seems like an over engineered way to do it, but what do I know?

01:54:01.120 --> 01:54:04.560
Cool. Anyway, the point is that um, it's pretty slow

01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:08.880
So like dude, I played a full game against it. Yeah, I would have taken forever

01:54:09.120 --> 01:54:11.840
It it doesn't have to think at all because you know, yeah

01:54:12.400 --> 01:54:17.840
Chess computer Yeah, and it you know that the rating that I had to put it at in order to try to beat it quickly for the video

01:54:17.840 --> 01:54:21.120
Was pretty low. So it didn't have to do a lot of calculation. Um

01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:26.880
It still took by the time our game was done. It took over 10 minutes just doing its own moves

01:54:27.280 --> 01:54:31.920
Yeah, and that means no computation. The second my turn is done. It's moving. It still took over 10 minutes

01:54:32.080 --> 01:54:35.600
Yeah, very slow very inefficient as well, which I talked to them about

01:54:35.600 --> 01:54:41.280
Yeah, it has like a like a claw that comes down all the way to the bottom of the piece and then goes to like a fixed

01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:45.680
Spot and then lifts up on the piece. So it'll kind of slide up on the different sized ones

01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:50.320
So they had to design their pieces to have the grabby spot in the same spot for all of them

01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:55.200
And so there's a lot of just like opening up way wide and then coming to like the right spot and like

01:54:55.760 --> 01:55:00.480
Making sure it's in there because it might not put the piece down in exactly the center, you know, right?

01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:08.640
So they they have to build in a little bit of room for error like that So yeah, just I don't know it seems like the kind of thing that's it's definitely a conversation starter

01:55:08.800 --> 01:55:13.040
Yes, like if you just have like rich you money and you're just like, yeah, I want a chess robot

01:55:13.040 --> 01:55:17.280
If you have rich you money and you want to learn how to play over the board

01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:21.840
I think it's honestly a huge benefit. Really? It's a thousand dollars, which is a huge problem

01:55:21.840 --> 01:55:27.440
But but my thing is like like I have my dad maybe this cool like he he carved

01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:32.880
Chest pieces made a custom wooden chess board for me. Super super sick. I can almost never use it

01:55:33.680 --> 01:55:37.760
Because what are the chances that someone is going to be around all the time?

01:55:37.840 --> 01:55:41.680
So you want a robot at my rating you want a robot that you can

01:55:42.480 --> 01:55:46.560
Just put your board in front of because yeah, this uses its own board would be amazing. Yeah

01:55:47.120 --> 01:55:50.640
Um, but like yeah having me because if you play online, right?

01:55:51.120 --> 01:55:55.840
You go to move your knight you click on it shows you all the spaces it can go to well, you can turn that off

01:55:56.320 --> 01:55:59.600
Yeah, but it's still like even when you do that like I don't know the

01:56:00.480 --> 01:56:07.440
The the mental of playing physically over the board is different even like just angle that you're looking at like all it's it's just

01:56:07.520 --> 01:56:12.160
It's a very different experience. I'm not a chess player Far too much add for chess

01:56:12.240 --> 01:56:18.160
Um, so like I I I can think maybe two turns ahead at maximum and then my brain starts going

01:56:19.600 --> 01:56:24.640
Like I I literally can't um, you might enjoy puzzles, but yeah

01:56:25.280 --> 01:56:29.520
But so like super super cool. It's just really expensive really slow. I tried to suggest that

01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:34.000
Oh, I was going somewhere with that, but my add fizzled out. Um, so the point is that

01:56:35.120 --> 01:56:38.880
I'm not at like a level where I would understand like, oh, yeah, you need to like

01:56:39.280 --> 01:56:44.480
Learn to play on the board like I just because I don't recognize that doesn't mean it's not valid

01:56:44.480 --> 01:56:49.200
That's totally valid. I guess there's even a small thing where like if you're playing in an over the board tournament

01:56:49.280 --> 01:56:54.480
You have a physical clock And your timer stops not when you finish your move when you hit it

01:56:54.640 --> 01:56:59.040
Yeah, and this chess robot when you're done your turn you press the button

01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:02.960
So you have to physically move the piece and then press the button

01:57:03.200 --> 01:57:08.720
Which is actually gonna give you actual genuine practice for how you play in a tournament except that in a tournament

01:57:08.800 --> 01:57:12.960
Your opponent is also going to be on the clock and they're not going to take 3 000 years to move their pieces

01:57:13.200 --> 01:57:16.960
And you'll have a lot more time to calculate while it's moving, which is bad. Yeah

01:57:17.440 --> 01:57:22.400
Um, and like I suggested Right now if it takes a piece

01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:26.960
It will it will you know the motor starts it moves over the board. It lowers down

01:57:27.040 --> 01:57:33.760
It picks up your piece. It raises up It moves it over to where it's gonna to deposit on the side it lowers down

01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:38.240
It releases it it lifts back up it moves back over it picks up its piece by going down

01:57:38.480 --> 01:57:43.680
It comes back up it moves it to where it's gonna go It goes back down like if it gets mad does it huck it at you? I wish it did

01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:46.480
Um, but I wish it would slide

01:57:47.360 --> 01:57:51.040
So I wish it would grab it and then slide it to where it's supposed to go if it has a clear path

01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:56.000
And then allow you to pick up your piece that has been taken out and move it to the side

01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:02.000
That would be faster But I it would be like a disaster if people don't know to do that. So I get it. I don't know

01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:04.800
I wish there was ways that could make it a lot smarter

01:58:06.160 --> 01:58:11.120
But uh, but yeah, that was I thought that was pretty neat because I haven't seen anything like that before

01:58:11.120 --> 01:58:18.960
I think there's different versions of it, but I haven't seen anything like that before Farrowan asks I've only been here for six or seven years. Has Luke ever finished a sentence before Linus started talking?

01:58:20.160 --> 01:58:24.640
I don't think so I don't know. That's the wancho

01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:27.920
People there was like there was a thread on reddit. Welcome to the wancho. A while ago

01:58:29.440 --> 01:58:34.000
He just keeps going now too. So it doesn't bother me really there was a thread on reddit a while ago

01:58:34.240 --> 01:58:38.640
That was like sympathizing with me about it. I'm like, dude. I don't even think about it anymore. Like it doesn't

01:58:39.440 --> 01:58:43.280
It doesn't bother me at all I don't know

01:58:43.280 --> 01:58:45.840
There's like there's there's quite a few people in my life that have

01:58:47.120 --> 01:58:50.560
Pretty intense adhd and it's like if you either like

01:58:51.200 --> 01:58:54.880
Let it bother you all the time or you just get over it and I just I got over it

01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:58.960
Yeah, luke has adapted exactly like it just who cares. He's reached his next form

01:58:59.040 --> 01:59:02.080
Yeah, we'll either we'll either come back to that thought or we won't it's fine

01:59:03.280 --> 01:59:05.280
Doesn't matter conversation will move on

01:59:06.560 --> 01:59:14.800
Um, what were we supposed to be? Oh, yeah, Dan yours you're up So my my top one is I think a probably a bit of a weird one. I think I was telling luke about this as well

01:59:15.280 --> 01:59:18.560
Um, I was walking around the show. It's my first time

01:59:18.640 --> 01:59:22.480
I have no real desire to find a lot of the fun stuff

01:59:23.200 --> 01:59:28.080
And I saw this really cute like chibi wall like narwhal walrus kind of logo

01:59:28.480 --> 01:59:31.600
At a table in the back rooms of some random hall

01:59:31.680 --> 01:59:37.920
I don't even know which one it was and their their company name is like fun something or other and it's really like cartoony

01:59:38.160 --> 01:59:42.160
And then I look over on their third one and it's like hey, I kill walls

01:59:42.720 --> 01:59:46.800
Uh kill net for for a military industrial complex and it's like

01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:50.960
The biggest whiplash. I think I've ever got it's like

01:59:52.160 --> 01:59:55.200
Death from above from drones from the cute narwhal company

01:59:56.800 --> 01:59:59.360
I don't think you had told me about that. Oh, okay

02:00:00.080 --> 02:00:05.120
Well, so that's my CES basically weird pick. Okay, uh for number two

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I'm gonna go with You know what that I mean, there's a reason I made a video about it that high sense tv is sick with the with the mini led with the RGB

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Mini led backlight. Yeah And I think the best way that I could explain it. I already did in the video

02:00:22.400 --> 02:00:30.000
Very few people watched that video. It was a terrible performer But whatever we're gonna get our hands on it and we'll do a funny vlog that I guess will engage people more

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Where we'll you know have it almost fall over or whatever And if that's what I have to do to get people to learn about cool tech, then I'll do it

02:00:36.720 --> 02:00:45.600
But the the backlight of this thing is incredible So instead of using a white or like a blue backlight and then using that to excite quantum dots to emit light

02:00:45.600 --> 02:00:51.200
Which is quite an efficient process. They are just not even bothering with the conversion in the first place

02:00:51.600 --> 02:00:58.240
And they are using RGB individual leds instead of white or blue individual leds at the back to

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massively ramp up the color saturation. So instead it's kind of like

02:01:05.360 --> 02:01:11.600
It's kind of like w o led versus RGB o led in terms of color saturation and and lg

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Still has advantages with w o led in terms of brightness, for instance

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Or at least that was true a generation or two ago the last time I sort of compared them side by side

02:01:21.440 --> 02:01:28.480
Um But there is there is no doubt an advantage in terms of color saturation to just

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Not having the white or like the other parts of the spectrum that need to be filtered out

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So if you can take your red pixel Uh on your tomato on screen or you know your sports car or whatever it is

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And instead of shining a white light through that red pixel of your lcd layer you shine a red light through it

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It's Shut up siri

02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:56.640
It is it it is just outstanding. It's it's incredible. It's it's the kind of thing you really have to see to believe and it looks

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great The fact that it's only on their 116 inch tv this year is sort of a downer. I do understand why it's

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Very computationally intensive and I think they're just kind of waiting for it to it to get a little bit more economical

02:02:13.840 --> 02:02:18.320
Before they can bring it to the rest of the line. I mean that's something high sense It's been pretty good about in the past is

02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:25.520
Intro-ing really cool technology and then either killing it like they did with their dual lcd layer thing that I would love to use for

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Round two of world's brightest by the way. I saw your suggestions. Don't worry. That was already on our radar

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Their dual cell. Uh, so it had two lcd layers so they could filter the black way better

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Like that just never happened But I think it never happened not because they gave up but because they found something better

02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:53.440
So they're they're many Many local dimming zone technology and their last gen outstanding. They had the 40 000 zones and then this RGB backlight looks oh man

02:02:55.760 --> 02:03:00.480
It looks So good. Um, and I think in the past, right? I was going somewhere with that

02:03:00.480 --> 02:03:04.240
They've done a pretty good job of introducing cool new tech and as long as it sticks around

02:03:04.880 --> 02:03:14.720
Letting it waterfall its way down to things that are more affordable And I I think their mainstream tv lineup in like a couple of years their mini led with RGB backlight stuff is going to be

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Just outstanding just killer

02:03:20.560 --> 02:03:25.760
For me my next one and this is definitely on the interesting side of things not the favorite side of things

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Oh, hold on one quick question from pyro pinky, but how does it make white?

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With all three going at the same intensity so the same way that a current RGB led makes white

02:03:37.120 --> 02:03:42.000
Yeah, um, it's just that you can just fire one of them and still get that incredible brightness

02:03:42.400 --> 02:03:48.720
So you get that saturation and that brightness. It's so good. Okay, go ahead. Uh, yeah next one

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I really wanted to try it and they were letting people try it and do demos, but there was a a lifting exoskeleton

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Um, and I was able to try it. Uh, it like really barely fit me to to strap the thing to my thighs was like

02:04:07.040 --> 02:04:11.840
It was at its maximum length Wow, what a humble flex there. Yeah, yeah

02:04:13.360 --> 02:04:18.800
But it did work it it had a lifting assistance capacity of 30 kilograms

02:04:19.280 --> 02:04:25.680
And then they had like a water bag there. Um that weighed 25 kilograms so you could try it out. Um

02:04:29.120 --> 02:04:35.920
It was 9 000 us dollars It had a battery on it that would last between five and eight hours, but the battery was removable

02:04:36.000 --> 02:04:40.320
So you can take one battery out plug another one in use that one to charge. Um

02:04:42.080 --> 02:04:51.200
I genuinely think it was like Really bad and I I I tried to be kind of light on it when we we filmed our little like short thing

02:04:51.440 --> 02:04:54.960
And the longer time has passed since I've used it the worse

02:04:55.120 --> 02:05:00.880
I think it is the more like I think about the concept. So you have these like, um

02:05:01.520 --> 02:05:05.440
There's these like straps that come down your arms and then you have these like hooks

02:05:05.920 --> 02:05:09.200
So you you have the hook in your palm and you hook it under whatever you're picking up

02:05:09.200 --> 02:05:13.760
So if it's like a box you put the the hook in like the the handle portion of the box

02:05:13.760 --> 02:05:17.440
Sure already an issue if the box doesn't have handles. Um

02:05:18.160 --> 02:05:21.040
Already an issue because if you have to try to hook it on to the bottom

02:05:21.280 --> 02:05:24.240
It might like puncture up into the box. So the hooks are like

02:05:24.960 --> 02:05:31.680
A bit of an issue automatically But let's say the thing that you're picking up is perfect for the hooks because the water bag was pretty good for it

02:05:32.640 --> 02:05:38.400
I Automatic so I you know, I pick up the thing without the exoskeleton so I can feel it before and after

02:05:38.880 --> 02:05:41.920
Um, I go to picks it up pick it up with the exoskeleton

02:05:42.320 --> 02:05:46.720
And I I do it like how I would normally pick something up, right? Right bend at the knees keep your back straight

02:05:46.800 --> 02:05:50.560
Yeah, all that kind of stuff I then pick it up and I'm like, well

02:05:51.440 --> 02:05:54.880
Didn't really seem like it did much because you're lifting properly

02:05:55.440 --> 02:06:01.120
So it's like designed to help you if you like don't lift properly if you just use your arms the guy tells me

02:06:01.680 --> 02:06:08.720
Don't bend your knees Just bend at the hips and do like the worst thing you could possibly do

02:06:09.280 --> 02:06:15.200
So I'm like, uh, okay for demonstration purposes. I will do that and then I felt it in my back

02:06:17.600 --> 02:06:21.440
Like I'm fine. Obviously it was too late to matter. That's not obvious, but like

02:06:22.160 --> 02:06:26.240
Yeah, fair enough. I mean you injured yourself a lot recently. Yeah, but like it was

02:06:27.200 --> 02:06:31.360
I just I'm doing this. I'm like it doesn't fully lift it for you. Yeah, it helps

02:06:31.920 --> 02:06:37.120
Yeah, so now you're in like the worst compromised position you can be in and maybe you're getting some help

02:06:37.360 --> 02:06:42.480
But you'd be better off just learning to lift properly. Yeah, like what if it runs out of battery in the middle of that? Yeah

02:06:43.040 --> 02:06:47.200
I mean theoretically that shouldn't happen, but also like stuff happens. Maybe

02:06:48.240 --> 02:06:52.640
Uh, and it like it does weigh something. So now you're carrying around this thing

02:06:54.000 --> 02:07:00.240
Which like will maybe sometimes help you. Okay. I don't know. It was uh, the one thing that I thought it did do well

02:07:00.720 --> 02:07:04.800
Um, was the guy switched what mode it was in and it just got completely rigid

02:07:05.600 --> 02:07:09.040
So like if you had to be leaned over working on something for a long time

02:07:09.120 --> 02:07:15.600
It can help you keep good posture and it can take some of the the load off of your your back muscles in your spine

02:07:15.920 --> 02:07:19.040
Um, so I did think that was actually kind of cool. Um

02:07:20.640 --> 02:07:26.720
But like man Uh, I don't know. Sammy and I were talking about it and we were like, you know

02:07:27.520 --> 02:07:32.720
Anything that's going to like help reduce workplace injuries like cool, you know, that sounds great

02:07:32.960 --> 02:07:37.280
But for a nine thousand dollar thing that to use properly you have to put yourself in a compromising position

02:07:37.440 --> 02:07:43.280
I don't believe that's actually happening. Um, so anyways, I thought it was interesting first time I've tried something like that

02:07:43.360 --> 02:07:48.880
But yikes, I don't think it's uh, kaboom pow says as someone who just finished doing a bunch of drywall

02:07:48.880 --> 02:07:51.840
It would be amazing to have an exoskeleton to help hold up the sander

02:07:52.320 --> 02:07:58.800
So yeah, they had a different model for that. Okay, where it supported your arms. This one didn't do anything for your arms

02:07:59.120 --> 02:08:05.680
It was your back and your legs. Um And that one looked maybe a little bit more legit got it. Um

02:08:06.480 --> 02:08:12.080
I don't know. I think it really depends on your use case. I also think if you were like a lot smaller

02:08:13.040 --> 02:08:16.400
And a lot weaker it might have been more beneficial. Wow called out

02:08:17.680 --> 02:08:24.400
but but seriously because like Meaning to bend over that much because this was like a very small bag on the ground

02:08:24.400 --> 02:08:27.840
Yeah, so needs to do like a a hip hinge all the way down to pick that up

02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:35.360
Put me in a pretty sketchy spot But if it wouldn't have put you in a pretty sketchy spot then and and it would have actually helped you then, you know, maybe it's better

02:08:35.840 --> 02:08:39.280
um I don't know

02:08:39.280 --> 02:08:46.880
all right, Dan Okay, let's see number two. I got to look at a bit of a development board for a new communication

02:08:47.520 --> 02:08:53.520
Model and uh, it looks like GPU enclosures for laptops. What are they called i gpus?

02:08:54.320 --> 02:08:58.480
e gpus e gpus new enclosures are going to be pretty incredible and be able to run some

02:08:58.880 --> 02:09:06.880
Pretty insane stuff with single cable. Yeah, Thunderbolt 5 looks sick. No, I think it was uh, yeah new usb or something like that

02:09:07.040 --> 02:09:14.720
Yeah, yeah Thunderbolt 5 basically. Yeah Thunderbolt 4 2.0. I hate it drives me nuts. Um, yeah, well our usb

02:09:15.200 --> 02:09:20.640
No, I think usb has actually cleaned up their branding. I was reading a blog post or something

02:09:20.880 --> 02:09:25.280
That would be nice usb new branding. I think they're going back to just

02:09:26.640 --> 02:09:32.960
Yeah, here. This is on arse Says goodbye to confusing branding. Oh wait, this is from 2022

02:09:33.840 --> 02:09:35.840
um

02:09:38.720 --> 02:09:44.640
Yeah when oh When it comes out usb 4 versions so they still have the stupid names

02:09:44.800 --> 02:09:52.560
I see but the branding is apparently getting or has been or has been getting cleaned up. Yeah. Yeah, so that's good. Um

02:09:53.440 --> 02:10:01.360
Kind of nice. Yeah. So anyway, yeah usb 4 80 gigabit is uh, is is the one uh from talking to uh,

02:10:01.440 --> 02:10:04.800
one of our ASUS contacts about it apparently not all 80 gigabit is

02:10:05.200 --> 02:10:09.920
Going to be uh usable for any GPU. It's probably closer to like three quarters of it

02:10:10.720 --> 02:10:13.120
Which is actually less than their old

02:10:13.840 --> 02:10:16.160
um, oh man, what did they call it?

02:10:17.920 --> 02:10:19.920
The one on the rog ally

02:10:21.760 --> 02:10:25.440
Oh, no, su c GPU standard. I'm just gonna look it up

02:10:27.200 --> 02:10:31.040
Xg mobile. That's right. It's actually a little lower bandwidth than xg mobile, but

02:10:32.160 --> 02:10:39.600
It's hopefully enough. Um, and hopefully see hopefully makes having any GPU somewhat, you know viable again with that said

02:10:40.000 --> 02:10:43.680
Oh, okay. We're gonna have to get into like sponsors at some point here

02:10:43.760 --> 02:10:48.880
And we're gonna have to finish this topic. Uh, but I think that AMD's ryzen ai max

02:10:49.600 --> 02:10:53.440
series ai max plus and ai max another topic might make

02:10:54.640 --> 02:10:59.920
The idea of having a thin and light for being on the go and then like having an e GPU station to dock into

02:11:00.800 --> 02:11:05.520
Just I don't know. Maybe just kind of not even worth it. Mike. Uh, I don't know

02:11:05.520 --> 02:11:14.880
Well, we'll talk about it later first. Uh, is it my turn again? I want to interject for a second fogal br in fobling jet said world of concrete trade show in vegas is where more

02:11:14.960 --> 02:11:21.040
Applicable versions of assist devices are shown off for tradespeople. Yeah to be clear. I'm not saying this was like a good one

02:11:21.520 --> 02:11:28.640
Yeah, it was just one we checked out. Yeah Yeah, though our favorite things that the show has turned into just stuff. We thought was interesting to talk about

02:11:28.880 --> 02:11:35.040
okay, I'm gonna get you to go next because Um, my next one actually has a live demo

02:11:36.000 --> 02:11:40.160
Okay, I'm gonna go get it. Uh, sure mine my next one. I think would be

02:11:41.200 --> 02:11:44.000
at one of the Intel rooms where we saw a new

02:11:45.120 --> 02:11:48.880
Media over Thunderbolt thing where you can essentially have a streaming pc

02:11:48.960 --> 02:11:53.120
That's just connected through Thunderbolt. So you don't need capture cards. Did you see that dad?

02:11:54.000 --> 02:11:57.760
No, no, I did not. Yeah, I don't I don't know a ton about it

02:11:57.920 --> 02:12:01.280
We didn't talk about it for a super long time because there was like another group

02:12:01.360 --> 02:12:07.040
What do you mean connected by a Thunderbolt just Thunderbolt to Thunderbolt two different computers Thunderbolt plugged into one

02:12:07.440 --> 02:12:12.560
Same cable plugged into the other as a desktop transfer for games video and audio across

02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:16.000
So you're like using a computer as a mic

02:12:17.760 --> 02:12:21.440
But it is a sun and timing pc so that you can like separate your

02:12:22.000 --> 02:12:28.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That'd be really nice So it's the same kind of idea before of having a whole capture card and everything but now you just buy a cable

02:12:29.280 --> 02:12:32.640
Oh, which is like pretty sick. Actually, that's actually awesome

02:12:33.680 --> 02:12:43.520
No capture card, but need a whole system Yeah, but in the previous scenario you also needed a whole system. It's not that's not what that's not that is nothing to do

02:12:44.560 --> 02:12:49.680
With the uh with the conversation. Yeah, and setting that up is really complicated. Yeah, Thunderbolt share

02:12:50.080 --> 02:12:55.680
People are saying Thunderbolt share. Yeah, so Thunderbolt share used to as far as my understanding go

02:12:56.640 --> 02:13:04.240
Goes just share video But now it will do audio as well meaning that you could you could essentially replace your streaming pc

02:13:04.240 --> 02:13:07.440
Which is like pretty sick actually neat. Yeah

02:13:08.560 --> 02:13:14.400
Yeah I know, you know having a dedicated streaming pc is a lot less popular these days

02:13:14.880 --> 02:13:18.160
um But yeah

02:13:18.640 --> 02:13:22.880
Hit me Dan What was my third?

02:13:23.840 --> 02:13:27.840
Yeah, uh, can I be can I be like lame and say constellation?

02:13:29.600 --> 02:13:35.440
What or at least whatever the hell the NVIDIA was talking about with constellation. Does that count as a product?

02:13:36.400 --> 02:13:44.560
Via constellation It's an uh a new thing that they're tacking on to the army warriors platform this stuff. Yeah. Yeah, sure

02:13:46.560 --> 02:13:52.000
Um Autonomous vehicle validation platform not even just autonomous vehicle, but I mean

02:13:53.120 --> 02:13:57.120
Just the the kind of video gen straight out of omniverse

02:13:57.600 --> 02:14:02.800
So you've trained your model in omniverse and it's done on like, you know crappy 3d models

02:14:03.360 --> 02:14:08.080
um And then you would have to retrain it when you put it into the real world now

02:14:08.160 --> 02:14:12.320
You can just create generative video that looks like real world camera vision

02:14:13.360 --> 02:14:15.360
right inside of

02:14:16.640 --> 02:14:21.920
Omniverse and cosmos so then you just transplant the digital brain into the real one and it's pretty much good to go

02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:26.320
Kind of spooky Very cool

02:14:26.480 --> 02:14:29.680
All right My mine is

02:14:30.400 --> 02:14:33.440
One that I actually brought away with me. Oh my

02:14:34.720 --> 02:14:37.680
And um, ah, yes good here it is

02:14:38.320 --> 02:14:46.400
um It's not so much that the product category is anything new or honestly, maybe even that exciting to you

02:14:47.200 --> 02:14:54.400
Okay But it's how polished these have gotten over the last little while I like want one

02:14:54.560 --> 02:14:59.200
I'm just trying to buy my time. No. No. This is not it. Oh, this is the original rog ally

02:14:59.200 --> 02:15:04.640
This is my daily driver. Yeah, I don't mean that in particular. I mean a handheld. Oh sure sure sure, but that's not that's not it

02:15:04.720 --> 02:15:08.400
Yeah, okay. Um, so yeah, I fun fact. I dropped this in the bath

02:15:09.360 --> 02:15:15.120
Um, it still works a week ago. Yeah I put it behind my server to dry out and it like 100 survived somehow

02:15:15.760 --> 02:15:19.600
Yeah, it turned off like immediately. There's absolutely

02:15:20.320 --> 02:15:23.680
zero ingress protection. So, uh, this

02:15:24.480 --> 02:15:28.000
is The real and real

02:15:28.000 --> 02:15:33.280
That's from xreal actually. I don't know why it says n real on it. Okay. Um, okay, so this is their new

02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:36.400
What is it reality pro? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on

02:15:37.600 --> 02:15:44.000
I just want to make sure I get the the name right Um last time we talked about a product similar to this you and I were both

02:15:44.480 --> 02:15:49.200
publicly trashing it on video. So okay, so this is the the x real one pro

02:15:49.840 --> 02:15:53.760
It looks like yeah, this is the this is the one. Yeah, okay

02:15:54.400 --> 02:16:02.640
okay, um And I'm gonna I've got like a bomb shell to drop because I'm gonna I'm gonna demo these for someone else

02:16:03.280 --> 02:16:07.360
On monday. Okay, and it's gonna be pretty cool. Anyway, the point is

02:16:08.400 --> 02:16:11.920
Super easy to use. Oh, no way you basically just

02:16:12.800 --> 02:16:20.080
Pop it in here. Okay You fire up. Uh, you fire up a game on your system. Give me a second. I'm just gonna get logged in here

02:16:21.520 --> 02:16:25.200
What's impressive about this to me or what stood out about it to me

02:16:26.000 --> 02:16:30.080
was how Bloody good they've gotten because

02:16:30.800 --> 02:16:37.520
You've you've tried AR glasses slash personal theater glasses slash, you know, whatever in the past. I think

02:16:38.000 --> 02:16:41.520
Um, what should I what should I give him to play? Oh, maybe a game that he never plays

02:16:41.600 --> 02:16:47.280
How about final fantasy six? We could go with that. No, here. I'll throw you I'll throw you in tape to tape. Yeah

02:16:51.920 --> 02:16:55.440
I feel like just for that I should spoil your the person you're gonna talk to you, but I won't

02:16:56.960 --> 02:17:00.800
You wouldn't Okay, let me get this fired up here

02:17:01.280 --> 02:17:05.840
AMD anti leg you look like you like drank too much. Yeah, here we go. Okay

02:17:06.720 --> 02:17:16.000
Now I'm gonna See this button that I'm pressing on the top here. Okay. Hold on. Is that volume or something? No, no, no

02:17:16.640 --> 02:17:23.600
Okay Okay, okay. I'm gonna get a T like this. I'm gonna hand you the controller first controller first. Here you go

02:17:24.800 --> 02:17:29.760
Hey to be clear These are not AR glasses. These are more like personal theater

02:17:30.320 --> 02:17:37.280
Glasses these are a screen that you can just you know wear on your face, but that looks like a giant theater screen

02:17:37.280 --> 02:17:41.200
I think this one is set to I want to say like 155 inches

02:17:41.840 --> 02:17:46.720
And four meters away or something like that right now. Okay from the front

02:17:47.680 --> 02:17:50.960
You you can't really see anything from anywhere. No one can see

02:17:51.840 --> 02:17:56.240
No one can see anything of what you're watching. So go ahead and put these on

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and then just like Tell me what you think

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Whoa, okay that's uh

02:18:04.240 --> 02:18:08.480
An immediate improvement over ones that I've used in the past. Okay. You haven't even seen the best yet

02:18:08.480 --> 02:18:11.280
So here go ahead grab your grab your controller. Whatever they're doing to like

02:18:11.920 --> 02:18:16.880
Float the screen around when you look around feels a lot nicer as well. Okay, so you got your controller and everything. Okay

02:18:21.360 --> 02:18:27.520
Yeah, that's nice. I hadn't even darkened the glasses yet. Yeah, so they've got electro electrochromic whatever

02:18:28.000 --> 02:18:33.120
It's very clear. You're so far from your mic. He has no idea where he even is anymore because he's in his own world

02:18:33.600 --> 02:18:38.160
We have a giant gaming screen in front of him. We have the handheld one now. We might even be able to show some

02:18:38.720 --> 02:18:43.120
video through the Glasses some video through the glasses. Sorry what?

02:18:44.000 --> 02:18:47.840
Oh, no, no, you can't see it, which is pretty cool. No one can see what you're watching

02:18:48.320 --> 02:18:52.080
Uh, there's speakers built into the the arms on the glasses

02:18:52.640 --> 02:18:57.280
Um, this is actually usable. I I've I've tried a few of these in the past that we're like

02:18:58.480 --> 02:19:02.880
They were trying to sell them as actual products, but in in all reality, they were tech demos

02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:09.840
Um, and this feels like I could understand someone actually buying this for real if I do this

02:19:11.280 --> 02:19:17.600
It'll lock the location of the screen So you can look around it's actually sick. So it'll kind of like the apple vision pro

02:19:17.680 --> 02:19:21.280
It'll freeze it with that said it still comes with you this way

02:19:22.640 --> 02:19:27.120
There are challenges I wasn't able to use it in this mode on the plane because it seems to be gyroscopic

02:19:28.160 --> 02:19:34.640
There's no cameras on it for for inside out spatial tracking. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely still have thoughts

02:19:34.720 --> 02:19:39.280
There's definitely still progress. Oh, yeah in terms of the visual quality

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Even like look into a light

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Well, oh right There you go

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Yeah, I mean I can technically see the light, but honestly it doesn't bother me

02:19:52.400 --> 02:19:56.800
It's very very usable, which is pretty cool. Which is pretty cool

02:19:57.600 --> 02:20:04.480
It's still feel this like You know the the previous versions of this felt like tech demos. This now feels like

02:20:05.360 --> 02:20:10.960
Cool, but early adopter It's a real product though. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, um 100

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That's wicked. Yeah, that gets my that gets kind of my

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Award for finally being a thing that I would show

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A normie relative or something like that and say hey

02:20:24.800 --> 02:20:28.480
Have you considered this and you can plug it to you just plug it into your phone?

02:20:28.720 --> 02:20:33.600
You plug it into your your pc and it just is it has no on and off button

02:20:34.080 --> 02:20:37.200
It's just powered off of the usbc port and you just watch a movie

02:20:38.080 --> 02:20:41.600
Yeah, you just play a game. Yeah on a giant screen that you just bring with you

02:20:41.600 --> 02:20:45.760
It's a bad or game in bed with one of those would be actually pretty wicked pretty cool

02:20:46.880 --> 02:20:50.080
I definitely have some feedback. I don't know if we're going to do a full review

02:20:50.160 --> 02:20:54.400
I hadn't really planned to but a lot of you guys are like asking questions about it now

02:20:54.800 --> 02:20:58.400
So, I mean, yeah, maybe maybe it would justify a full review. It's for pre-order now

02:20:59.280 --> 02:21:04.320
You know, never never pre-order something without checking out reviews though, blah blah, etc. This is not a review

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What it is Is an opportunity for me to tease something that's pretty exciting

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And say we're kids any thoughts on what I can do to catch up

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Working any thoughts on what I can do to catch up. I mean, yeah, yeah, I read the thing I read the thing

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I mean other than just immersing yourself Um, I'd say one of the ways that I stay somewhat up to date is

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Talking to and working with people who are who are younger than me and who are have have been immersed in things that I that I haven't

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Um, you know, they're they're so quick to point out what's possible and and you know a more

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A more elegant way of solving a problem But other than that, you just got to put in the work right like

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PS the restock notification didn't work Oh

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Oh, okay. That's good to know. Uh Dan. Have you flagged that for the appropriate people? Yes, I will send that over. Okay, cool

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If she is willing to give you $10,000 now

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And this will conduit will feel like a smart investment later when you have that conversation

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Yeah, when you go to run because like the new HDMI, uh, they announced the new HDMI

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What what what is it 2.1? 2.1 2.1 b. I think it is. Yeah

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What was it 90 gigabit per second or something stupid like that? Well, whatever

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When the time comes to you know run new wiring from anywhere you can think of to anywhere else you can think of

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You're gonna thank yourself for for having conduit

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Um Yeah, and then you can fall back on the like, you know, we made the smart investment last time

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So we could do this more easily in the future. So realistically

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What the ask is is it's for this higher price, but because what we did before it's actually it's actually lower

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It's been a way we're saving money And you go that way

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Do we want to be was the longer cable?

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I don't know. Yeah, is it 2.2. I don't know whatever the new one is apparently it's 96 gigabit per second

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Absolutely wild And last one for now. Hello, lld. Thanks for the new precision screwdriver and bit set

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Linus, are you excited about the new anno game? I loved medieval total war rom and looking forward to pax romana

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What I did not know that it was announced

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June 11th Anno 117 pax romana is the newest city building game

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I'll be really interested to see what they do with this era because man

02:27:10.720 --> 02:27:13.200
1800 was such a so good good

02:27:14.160 --> 02:27:19.440
Era there was so much you could do with like sea and land and just I don't know there's

02:27:20.880 --> 02:27:24.880
I mean I The anno team just kills it

02:27:25.120 --> 02:27:34.400
Time after time after time. So I would never count them out But I will say that um, you know victorian era is more interesting to me. I mean, I don't know roman era is pretty cool

02:27:34.480 --> 02:27:37.440
To it's like I say they definitely have boats and stuff like yeah, you can still do

02:27:38.320 --> 02:27:42.160
Do you know what game I've put more hours into in the last week than any other?

02:27:43.840 --> 02:27:51.360
lords of the realm two What is that exactly I thought you're gonna say final fantasy just don't come in again

02:27:51.600 --> 02:27:57.200
No, no, no, I haven't played any final fantasy. I I picked it up on steam. Oh, dude. Yeah, dude

02:27:57.280 --> 02:28:02.480
This is this is an old steam 10 out of 10 though. It's an old game. It's

02:28:03.280 --> 02:28:11.440
Still really good It's still really good. I was playing it with my son and he was like having fun with it

02:28:11.680 --> 02:28:18.160
This it's from like 1996 or something. Yeah. Yeah. What year is it from? Did I nail that? Yeah, you did man. I'm good

02:28:18.640 --> 02:28:25.040
Okay, anyway I was 10 when this game came out and it's it's surprisingly

02:28:25.920 --> 02:28:32.560
Deep and fun still So I I played through a few missions in the campaign and it's hard

02:28:33.360 --> 02:28:36.000
Like it's hard. It is very unforgiving

02:28:37.280 --> 02:28:41.120
um That's fun. You it's it's a combination rts

02:28:41.840 --> 02:28:49.200
and uh turn-based Like uh like civilization management. I was gonna say this screenshot. Maybe immediately think of sieve one

02:28:49.360 --> 02:28:51.360
Which I think is like a similar time frame

02:28:52.560 --> 02:28:56.880
Oh, sieve one was pre 1996 when did sieve one come out?

02:28:58.880 --> 02:29:06.240
1991 yeah, okay. Yeah, that makes more sense. Yeah, that's like sieve two was yeah, the mapping

02:29:06.320 --> 02:29:09.680
Yeah, sieve two is pretty rough sieve two was when I got into it

02:29:10.240 --> 02:29:13.680
Um, I I think sieve one would have been a little rudimentary for me

02:29:14.720 --> 02:29:19.040
To get into I've played all of them. Really? Yeah, what's your favorite then?

02:29:20.160 --> 02:29:24.400
um I think

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four Really five five

02:29:28.800 --> 02:29:31.920
five Not six but five

02:29:33.440 --> 02:29:37.760
I understand why people like six. I have issues with six. It is what it is. I'm excited about seven

02:29:37.840 --> 02:29:42.000
I'll play every single one. It is what it is poor daga says. I came out in 1996 dude

02:29:42.080 --> 02:29:46.320
The number of people that walked up to me this year that were like full-ass grown adults that were like

02:29:46.400 --> 02:29:48.400
I've been watching your videos since I was a kid

02:29:52.480 --> 02:29:56.080
We are coming up on the five-year anniversary of the I'm thinking about retiring stream. Yeah

02:29:56.800 --> 02:30:01.760
It's in like a week and a half or something. That was when you had been deep in it so long you were thinking about retiring

02:30:04.720 --> 02:30:08.000
How was that five years ago when will it have been longer

02:30:09.440 --> 02:30:15.040
From the I've been thinking about retiring stream then when you filmed that the beginning of the company

02:30:16.160 --> 02:30:23.680
Oh, wow Like when will that be the halfway point only like a couple more years? Yeah, that'll be crazy. Yeah, no kidding

02:30:23.680 --> 02:30:25.680
Okay

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There are a few more a few more I think Uh, right. So should I finally should I finally tell them? Yeah leak it. Let's go

02:30:36.320 --> 02:30:41.040
Let's go. Wait. Where'd it go? Where'd my tab go? I lost my tab. Uh, I will

02:30:41.760 --> 02:30:44.640
I will get I will get the new tab. Um

02:30:47.120 --> 02:30:54.480
Here we go You know, I had a I had a better I had a better version of this tab that was working better for me

02:30:55.040 --> 02:30:57.440
But I guess it kind of is what it is

02:30:58.800 --> 02:31:03.040
Uh, let's see if this works. Oh, yeah, they don't have my uh, they don't have my thing here anyway

02:31:03.120 --> 02:31:05.440
So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go on like

02:31:06.320 --> 02:31:11.520
Oh, um, you're just gonna go on I'm just gonna go on NBC.com. It's random website. Um, yeah

02:31:12.400 --> 02:31:15.440
This is a show people might know. Oh weird. It's an eight show

02:31:16.080 --> 02:31:22.560
Starring, I mean one of the jimmies jimmy something. Uh, right, right, right, right. Oh the racer youtuber. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

02:31:24.160 --> 02:31:29.120
And uh, okay this week. Oh, yeah, they had some some people you might have heard of, you know, Pamela Anderson

02:31:29.840 --> 02:31:34.880
We know whatever else little baby. Um, and then on on monday, they've got a show coming with, uh

02:31:36.800 --> 02:31:41.760
Wait, who's that? Wait, who's that guy? What was he doing? What no way?

02:31:41.760 --> 02:31:47.280
They're got that what the heck they're gonna have what they're gonna have this guy's gonna be on fallon. What's going on?

02:31:47.520 --> 02:31:52.720
Are you kidding me? Um, they didn't have a picture of you not yet not yet

02:31:53.440 --> 02:31:56.720
There aren't very many on the internet, but when the picture goes up, it'll be worth it

02:31:57.520 --> 02:32:08.080
Oh, okay. Um, all right. All right So I will be doing the demo of the x-ray glasses. Are you bringing other stuff? Yeah, nice. I'm bringing a little touch of ces

02:32:08.720 --> 02:32:13.280
to the studio on the tonight show, um, sweet and

02:32:14.000 --> 02:32:19.520
This has already been announced. So I I'm not I'm not breaking any embargoes or anything here

02:32:19.600 --> 02:32:24.720
But you guys may have kind of casually noticed who one of the other guests is

02:32:25.280 --> 02:32:28.000
Um bad bunny will be co-hosting the show

02:32:28.320 --> 02:32:35.680
So I'll be bringing a touch of ces to both jimmy fallon and bad bunny getting them to try out some cool products

02:32:35.760 --> 02:32:40.480
Check out some cool demos When we told because this came together

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really fast like I I

02:32:45.840 --> 02:32:49.920
Basically heard from them and they were like, hey, you're like at ces, right?

02:32:50.720 --> 02:32:53.360
I was like, yeah, I'm a little busy. What's up, you know

02:32:54.160 --> 02:33:01.040
And they're like, oh, how about this? Yeah, and so when I started going to brands and saying like, hey, yeah, I know, you know

02:33:01.200 --> 02:33:06.240
Working with us you like doing that or whatever, but what if there was a whole other level?

02:33:06.880 --> 02:33:16.960
It was amazing how quickly People started moving. Yeah to get us what we need to to make this a really cool experience. I think it's going to be

02:33:18.160 --> 02:33:25.440
Super cool. I've got A bunch. This is just this is one of five or six things that I'm going to be doing

02:33:25.440 --> 02:33:29.600
I don't know what'll make it into the final cut. Uh, but basically I'm just going to be like

02:33:30.560 --> 02:33:33.280
I kind of I asked them. I was like, okay, so like, how do I do this?

02:33:33.760 --> 02:33:37.600
Because I've never I've never done like real tv before, you know, yeah

02:33:38.240 --> 02:33:41.200
And they're just like just do your thing and like I get it

02:33:41.280 --> 02:33:45.360
I mean, obviously jimmy's entire job is making everyone look good

02:33:45.920 --> 02:33:47.920
you know like he so I'm

02:33:48.960 --> 02:33:53.040
I'm sure he's going to do his professional thing like there's a reason that these guys

02:33:53.680 --> 02:33:56.720
Guys like this have been on tv for a bazillion years

02:33:56.720 --> 02:34:01.360
Like luke and I have encountered this a number of times. I think you remember when we had tom merit on the wancho

02:34:01.440 --> 02:34:05.440
You're gonna say yeah, and chris perilla for that matter. Well where they just came on

02:34:06.320 --> 02:34:11.440
And we're like, oh So there's like a whole other tier of like entertainer media personality

02:34:11.840 --> 02:34:17.680
And this whole youtuber thing is like it's quaint and it's like relatable, but it's not because we're the best at this

02:34:17.760 --> 02:34:24.080
It's because we're relatable. I guess. Um, so I'm I'm not worried. I'm sure he's going to do a great job of making it seem like

02:34:24.160 --> 02:34:26.160
I'm doing a great job

02:34:27.680 --> 02:34:31.280
But I am still a little out of my element, right?

02:34:31.840 --> 02:34:38.880
Um, so I'm asking them. I'm like, okay. Well, how do I do this? And they're like just look we we want someone who kind of you know brings the energy to it

02:34:39.760 --> 02:34:43.920
And it's the same thing that I always tell people, right? They're like just have fun and it'll be fun

02:34:44.000 --> 02:34:48.320
And I'm like, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So it's basically the same thing same thing different size of camera

02:34:48.720 --> 02:34:52.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah the the live audience is a little stressful

02:34:53.440 --> 02:34:58.080
Because it's not something I do. I'm very comfortable. You've done that before though performing in front of a glass lens

02:34:58.080 --> 02:35:04.560
But it's it's different and I'm a little rusty. I agree. I'm a little rusty. It is definitely different. So I'm I'm excited

02:35:05.840 --> 02:35:11.680
I'm excited Um, are you gonna get any like media training or anything? Like do they prep the guests at all?

02:35:11.840 --> 02:35:14.960
They gave me a couple, you know a couple basics, but they're like, yeah

02:35:15.600 --> 02:35:19.040
Pretty much, you know, we we scoped you out like just yeah, I use

02:35:19.520 --> 02:35:21.520
How do you get tickets to watch this?

02:35:23.120 --> 02:35:26.560
Shut up. Don't even Don't even

02:35:26.560 --> 02:35:29.920
Hey, look, I need to uh request a vacation time approval

02:35:32.080 --> 02:35:36.720
Hey, jay Hey, jay

02:35:36.880 --> 02:35:41.840
I want to go. How do I go? You really

02:35:42.560 --> 02:35:46.000
You really do not need to go for that. What day is it? What day is it? It's on monday

02:35:46.960 --> 02:35:53.200
I told myself I would never fly home from ces and immediately fly back out and I'm totally doing it

02:35:56.320 --> 02:36:01.040
Oh, it's sold out. No way. Okay. Well, if you're not if you don't already have a ticket, you're not going

02:36:01.520 --> 02:36:03.840
Dang. Well, look, do I have a surprise for you?

02:36:06.960 --> 02:36:10.400
But yeah, I I thought about it right because like obviously it's

02:36:11.040 --> 02:36:18.160
Kind of inconvenient Um, yeah, but it's one of those things that was not on my bucket list because it never occurred to me

02:36:18.800 --> 02:36:22.000
That that would even be a thing and okay. I don't want

02:36:23.200 --> 02:36:27.680
You're part of the group of people that sort of killed old media

02:36:28.720 --> 02:36:30.720
Well, okay

02:36:33.600 --> 02:36:39.120
But it's like But it's still cool. It's genuinely very cool. It kind of makes me like I okay

02:36:39.440 --> 02:36:41.760
I don't want this to come across the wrong way, but like

02:36:42.480 --> 02:36:49.040
part of me Like part of me is like, yeah, this this is like completely not my world. I can't believe I'm being invited into this world

02:36:49.040 --> 02:36:52.160
This is so cool. And then the other part of me is kind of like

02:36:52.800 --> 02:36:55.520
Get please don't take this the wrong way. But like, how did this take you so long?

02:36:56.240 --> 02:37:00.960
You know, like what where where was my invitation five years ago? Anytime you wanted to talk about tech like how

02:37:01.600 --> 02:37:04.240
How was I not on the list at least, you know, yeah

02:37:04.960 --> 02:37:11.280
And I've had a couple instances where like movie productions have reached out and been like, hey, yeah, we might have like a

02:37:12.000 --> 02:37:17.280
role for like a like a you know, a geek guy or something like that and would you be interested in doing like a like a

02:37:17.280 --> 02:37:19.280
little cameo appearance or something like that but

02:37:20.320 --> 02:37:23.360
Surprisingly little like it just seems like such an obvious

02:37:24.000 --> 02:37:27.680
To the audience that I just I don't really understand why it hasn't happened more

02:37:27.760 --> 02:37:30.560
I've always kind of wondered like is it is it the canadian?

02:37:32.480 --> 02:37:39.280
Like you're not an american I doubt it. You're not in york or cali because the thing is like I don't even just mean for myself like

02:37:39.760 --> 02:37:45.840
There's there's lots of other tech creators that are american that are a huge deal or whatever

02:37:46.400 --> 02:37:51.840
And they're surprisingly little tag Ryan Reynolds. This is not this is not

02:37:52.480 --> 02:37:56.560
What about Ryan Reynolds? It's not the point. It's not related. Yeah. Yeah, no

02:37:57.840 --> 02:38:05.760
Okay, sorry. I just Yeah, that's not what we're talking about. Anyway. Yeah. No, I'm I don't know. I think it's cool. He's canadian. I know he's canadian

02:38:06.080 --> 02:38:10.080
He's not he lives like an hour away or something. Um

02:38:10.960 --> 02:38:17.360
We're talking about a cameo thing of a creator. We're not talking about an actor and there have been times when like

02:38:18.400 --> 02:38:22.000
You know, like a movie is loaded up with online influencers and stuff like that

02:38:22.960 --> 02:38:29.520
But why only then like why why not why not why not leverage the notoriety of of these people?

02:38:29.520 --> 02:38:33.440
Like it just seems kind of obvious to me, but I think part of that is just that

02:38:33.680 --> 02:38:37.680
I don't know to that world. It doesn't seem obvious. I mean

02:38:38.640 --> 02:38:42.720
Even how this happened it sounds like it was just kind of random like someone someone on the team

02:38:43.200 --> 02:38:49.520
Like like new, you know, what was a viewer and it's like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, it just it seems like the kind of thing that

02:38:50.000 --> 02:38:55.600
Um, yeah, I just cool. Yeah, but I never had any kind of

02:38:56.560 --> 02:39:06.160
Of expectation Or hope or bucket list and so even though it is is very inconvenient and was actually a ton of work for the team

02:39:06.160 --> 02:39:14.400
I want to just Take a little bit of time To to shout out the team the procurement team like Dylan was running around all over the show floor

02:39:15.040 --> 02:39:22.080
Andrew ended up doing an like extra few hours of shooting with me to to get some footage for like a little sizzle of like what is ces?

02:39:22.800 --> 02:39:26.880
That maybe they'll use or maybe they won't like who knows, right? Like we're we're all new to this, right?

02:39:27.680 --> 02:39:30.240
James here in home base was coordinating like all

02:39:30.880 --> 02:39:35.200
Like all kinds of moving parts and has been coordinating with their producers on the tonight show

02:39:36.080 --> 02:39:40.720
I feel I really feel bad if there's anyone that I'm

02:39:41.200 --> 02:39:47.520
Kind of forgetting right now. Oh the writing team contributed to just like throwing in leads for stuff that we could

02:39:48.000 --> 02:39:50.400
Go follow up with the brands and see because because

02:39:51.040 --> 02:39:54.720
The backup plan they were like, yeah, we'd love to have you on we'll just have you on the couch

02:39:55.360 --> 02:39:58.160
Just talk about ces and I was like, okay

02:39:59.040 --> 02:40:04.960
You want to be the the like animal handler? This is probably my one. This is probably my one time. I'm gonna do this, right?

02:40:05.760 --> 02:40:09.920
Well, let's smash it. Let's do it right. Yeah, right like let's let's

02:40:11.520 --> 02:40:14.000
Let's do it like we do it and so I was like, okay. Well

02:40:14.960 --> 02:40:18.720
What if I could pre-film segments and we could watch them together would that be cool?

02:40:18.720 --> 02:40:20.960
And they're like, oh, yeah, that'd be way better. And I was like, okay

02:40:22.160 --> 02:40:26.160
What if we could bring ces to you? And they're like, whoa

02:40:26.160 --> 02:40:32.320
Like that wasn't what they were really expecting because it was really really quick turnaround. Um, and so the the team really like

02:40:33.360 --> 02:40:39.040
Really stepped up filling in docks with with leads the business team actually did a ton of work to make this happen

02:40:39.040 --> 02:40:44.080
Because a lot of the time they coordinate with the brand. So even though, you know, it's not a paid deal or whatever

02:40:44.480 --> 02:40:50.080
It's uh, it's it's still coordinating through their contacts, right off the hook for the one sponsor tonight then

02:40:51.440 --> 02:40:55.760
Is that redeem them? Okay

02:40:55.760 --> 02:40:57.760
Okay, yeah, all right. Yeah

02:40:58.800 --> 02:41:03.840
How do you know that it was just in three times the length like maybe they talked about three products

02:41:05.360 --> 02:41:10.560
Um Maybe they got to talk about three products. Maybe maybe

02:41:11.280 --> 02:41:18.800
I don't know. I'm I'm I'm It's cool really nervous way more nervous than I probably should be people keep trying to talk me off the ledge

02:41:18.880 --> 02:41:23.280
But I'm just like But I'm I'm I'm excited. I'm excited. I think it's going to be really fun

02:41:23.760 --> 02:41:27.520
I feel like you'll probably be nervous until you're flowing and then you'll be fine. Well

02:41:30.000 --> 02:41:35.200
I sucked on the roast It's sort of something that's in the back of my in the back of my brain

02:41:35.600 --> 02:41:42.240
Like I was I was trying to Convey that it had been kind of exhausting getting like roasted like that the whole time

02:41:42.320 --> 02:41:47.360
And I ended up just sounding like kind of weird and out of breath the whole time So I think what I need to do is I just need to

02:41:48.400 --> 02:41:53.200
You know just the classic stage performer rules. Yes smile lots

02:41:56.000 --> 02:41:59.600
Keep your energy level up Don't stop talking

02:41:59.600 --> 02:42:03.600
I I was telling the producer guy because I was like, okay, so like, you know

02:42:04.320 --> 02:42:08.400
Can you give me any any like tips? He's like, no, don't worry. You're gonna you're gonna be great

02:42:08.480 --> 02:42:14.800
Just, you know, Jimmy's gonna intro you do a little bit of like who the heck are you back and forth and then from there on

02:42:15.440 --> 02:42:21.040
You know you run the show Just don't stop talking and and and and keep it moving and I'm like

02:42:22.240 --> 02:42:24.240
That didn't take the pressure off at all

02:42:25.520 --> 02:42:30.560
So I'm driving this and but apparently yeah, I just I just kind of drive it and his job is to

02:42:31.280 --> 02:42:36.400
React and make it relatable and be funny and do what he does and make me look good, right? So

02:42:37.440 --> 02:42:40.960
It should be good To be clear. That's the thing you're good at though

02:42:41.120 --> 02:42:47.280
Wow Like that's honestly, you'll probably do better in that scenario than if he was trying to run the show and you had to

02:42:47.280 --> 02:42:51.280
Find the slots to jump in on Like if you just get to run, I think you'll be all right

02:42:54.960 --> 02:42:59.360
This engine works better with a lot of gas it's one of those things where it's like realistically

02:43:00.320 --> 02:43:05.760
It's not even a bigger audience than I normally talk to yeah to be honest like it whatever yeah

02:43:06.560 --> 02:43:10.720
But it's a completely different audience. This is like my first impression

02:43:11.120 --> 02:43:15.280
It's getting smaller every day probably millions of people. Sorry, Jimmy

02:43:20.960 --> 02:43:22.960
Don't clip that either

02:43:24.560 --> 02:43:28.560
We're even unmuted for that Oh

02:43:28.800 --> 02:43:32.640
Okay Anyway

02:43:32.640 --> 02:43:36.560
Audio Gary says no Linus will be there. Heck yeah. All right. Thanks guys

02:43:37.280 --> 02:43:41.520
I tried Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah take his or soul

02:43:43.120 --> 02:43:46.480
Honestly I don't this might come across

02:43:46.480 --> 02:43:49.440
I don't know how this is going to come across and I might change my mind later

02:43:49.520 --> 02:43:53.200
But my initial gut reaction to that is I'm actually kind of glad

02:43:54.160 --> 02:43:58.800
Yeah, I think that I think that knowing there were like

02:43:59.600 --> 02:44:06.720
Potential like like regular viewers or like super fans in the audience would actually put a lot more pressure on me

02:44:07.360 --> 02:44:10.960
And in some ways, I think I'd be I'd be happier

02:44:11.520 --> 02:44:15.360
Knowing that it's just a bunch of like random tonight show viewers in the audience

02:44:16.480 --> 02:44:22.240
Like a bunch of a bunch of bad bunny fans because like I noticed that this particular episode was sold out

02:44:22.320 --> 02:44:26.160
But like the rest of the week was not the other ones were yet. That's gonna be bad bunny. That's

02:44:27.280 --> 02:44:31.040
That ain't me. Um, he's kind of a big deal

02:44:33.200 --> 02:44:41.360
All right Um, yeah, yeah, everyone's everyone's like, yeah, yeah, that that's it because there it seems like in chat

02:44:41.680 --> 02:44:46.640
There's the people who have no idea who bad bunny is and then there's the people who are like, yeah, that's like

02:44:47.520 --> 02:44:52.400
Huge. Yeah, okay. Yeah Uh, okay

02:44:53.920 --> 02:44:56.400
Why don't we uh, what what what else are we supposed to

02:44:56.960 --> 02:45:01.840
What else are we supposed to do today Dan left and whenever he leaves I feel completely adrift

02:45:01.840 --> 02:45:04.480
It's always at the worst possible time. Yeah

02:45:05.680 --> 02:45:10.400
I think we're supposed to do topics. I think pretty sure we're supposed to do topics. Okay. Let's do some topics

02:45:10.560 --> 02:45:14.160
Do you want to talk about AI max? Yeah

02:45:14.160 --> 02:45:20.960
Yeah, let's talk about it. Yeah So our our headline here is why is no one talking about Ryzen AI max?

02:45:21.520 --> 02:45:27.120
Um, well, I can tell you right now part of the reason is AMD is phenomenally stupid branding

02:45:27.680 --> 02:45:35.120
Uh, what is Excuse me. What is Ryzen AI max and Ryzen AI max plus genuinely hate that

02:45:35.200 --> 02:45:42.400
How does that compare to Ryzen five and seven and and nine and Ryzen AI 300 and Ryzen 200

02:45:42.400 --> 02:45:48.320
What the f*** is any of this stuff AMD and it sucks because this product

02:45:49.520 --> 02:45:52.720
Is sick that

02:45:52.800 --> 02:45:57.120
Uh, here, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up the you want to see the specs. I'm gonna bring up the video

02:45:57.360 --> 02:46:02.640
Okay, no, I want to bring up the you want to see the specs. I have it perfectly lined up. I want to bring up the actual video here

02:46:03.280 --> 02:46:11.680
um Okay, LTT here. We're gonna fire this up on Floatplane. Okay, so ASUS was showing off their their new

02:46:12.480 --> 02:46:19.280
Z13 gaming tablet with the Ryzen AI max processor and here we go. Here we go. So I've got

02:46:19.760 --> 02:46:23.840
Uh, black myth wukong running Here we go. We'll go full screen

02:46:24.240 --> 02:46:27.360
This is integrated graphics. Okay

02:46:28.080 --> 02:46:32.320
On a 14th. I forget if it was 1440p or 1600p. I think it's 1600p

02:46:32.400 --> 02:46:36.560
Not the easiest game to run either. Don't quote me on that but and I was using resolution scaling

02:46:36.560 --> 02:46:41.200
So I'm probably running it at about 1080p worth of pixels

02:46:41.840 --> 02:46:43.840
On about medium settings

02:46:45.040 --> 02:46:48.400
but guys This is integrated

02:46:48.480 --> 02:46:53.600
graphics This thing is incredible super thin laptop

02:46:54.800 --> 02:47:01.280
Super thin here. You can actually oh, I write right as I put it down here. Hold on. I'll go back barely runs on my 4090

02:47:01.440 --> 02:47:05.920
That's a tablet. Okay. What this thing is flipping wild

02:47:06.080 --> 02:47:14.400
So they had it it can run at I think AMD rates at it anywhere from 45 watts to 120 watts or something like that

02:47:14.720 --> 02:47:20.000
So, um, yeah, we didn't make a video about this one because I was just there to see the new lenovo legion go s

02:47:20.800 --> 02:47:25.120
but in AMD's booth They had an hp

02:47:25.120 --> 02:47:31.440
Like thin and light that honestly was not that much thicker and not that much heavier than my snapdragon x machine

02:47:31.840 --> 02:47:36.240
That had that had a Ryzen ai max in it that was running at I want to say

02:47:37.040 --> 02:47:41.600
55 watts instead of the the 80 watts max in that in that like gaming tablet

02:47:43.520 --> 02:47:47.840
And like what I was saying earlier on the show I I obviously

02:47:48.800 --> 02:47:54.880
It doesn't give you the upgrade ability of an e GPU solution where you can like slot in a new graphics card down the line

02:47:54.960 --> 02:47:58.720
Right, especially if your CPU is kind of still good enough That's super cool

02:47:58.720 --> 02:48:02.560
And that's still totally valid having a thin and light laptop with a good CPU in it

02:48:02.720 --> 02:48:05.440
And then using an e GPU when you dock to get the performance

02:48:05.760 --> 02:48:08.560
But if you could have this level of performance

02:48:09.200 --> 02:48:14.800
All the time at an even somewhat reasonable price because AMD has integrated everything onto one package

02:48:16.400 --> 02:48:24.160
Wow super cool. It's and I I ended up going off on one of my just like rants that has nothing to do with the people listening to it in the booth

02:48:24.240 --> 02:48:27.920
Because I was like this is what AMD fusion was supposed to be

02:48:28.640 --> 02:48:37.440
All those years ago AMD Like I saw this stupid interview where some stupid interviewer asks an AMD executive if like

02:48:38.080 --> 02:48:46.400
The apple m4 was an inspiration for this chip and i'm sitting here going AMD had this vision 10 years ago

02:48:47.360 --> 02:48:49.840
10 years ago. They talked about fusion

02:48:50.400 --> 02:48:57.280
10 years ago or 12 or whatever they coined the term apu accelerated processing unit or advanced processing

02:48:57.280 --> 02:49:05.840
I forget what it stands for But this idea of having a powerful CPU and powerful GPU that are integrated together and then for 10 years

02:49:06.080 --> 02:49:09.120
They sat on their butts and didn't build it

02:49:10.320 --> 02:49:13.840
They didn't build it and so

02:49:13.840 --> 02:49:21.840
To their to their credit. I don't remember who the interviewer was But there was some some validity to the question too because AMD even said like yeah

02:49:22.400 --> 02:49:27.280
Apple kind of proved the market case for it, but it was like why did you guys announce it?

02:49:27.520 --> 02:49:31.920
Why did you announce fusion and then never build it if you didn't think there was a market for it?

02:49:31.920 --> 02:49:36.160
And I already know the answer the answer is they had no money They were a

02:49:36.160 --> 02:49:40.000
walking husk of a company for years and years and years, but that

02:49:40.800 --> 02:49:44.160
We're finally seeing it this right here. This

02:49:45.040 --> 02:49:48.800
Is the point Of the ati acquisition

02:49:49.040 --> 02:49:56.640
This is why they acquired a proper graphics company a proper pc graphics company so that they could crush

02:49:57.200 --> 02:50:00.720
Intel in integrated graphics and potentially

02:50:01.360 --> 02:50:06.000
Invalidate the entire low end of the market for their competitor NVIDIA

02:50:06.960 --> 02:50:10.000
Because NVIDIA isn't going to sell a single

02:50:10.400 --> 02:50:14.240
40 60 and I haven't seen the performance of the mobile 50 60

02:50:14.240 --> 02:50:18.960
So I have no idea, but if I could buy this where I don't have to deal with

02:50:19.520 --> 02:50:29.120
Cludgy um Oh, what's what's it what's it called the NVIDIA feature where it switches between the integrated graphics and the dedicated graphics the power saving thing

02:50:29.360 --> 02:50:37.120
Yeah, I don't remember help me out here if I don't if I don't have to if I don't have to deal with cludgy switching between integrated graphics

02:50:37.600 --> 02:50:45.840
and dedicated graphics If I could just have it on one chip that can run in a power saving mode optimus optimus. That's right. Thank you. Thank you for that

02:50:46.160 --> 02:50:49.360
um I'll just take this

02:50:49.360 --> 02:50:53.120
Even if it cost me even if it does cost me a little bit of performance. I

02:50:54.480 --> 02:50:59.360
Love it. I think this was the biggest thing. Everyone's talking about like the the radion

02:51:00.800 --> 02:51:05.440
90 70 or whatever or like some some of the other stuff. I think Ryzen ai max

02:51:06.240 --> 02:51:17.280
horrendous branding aside Is by far by far the most important product that AMD showed off at ces this year and that should have been this should have been like

02:51:18.320 --> 02:51:22.720
The star of the show that hp laptop is sick. This gaming tablet is

02:51:23.520 --> 02:51:26.240
Sick the ability so they've gotten unified memory

02:51:26.640 --> 02:51:33.920
So the ability to just like fire up armory crate Allocate a hundred gigabytes of RAM. It uses a quad channel memory controller

02:51:34.400 --> 02:51:40.960
Like this thing is sick So you put a hundred gigs of RAM on your GPU and like yeah, it's not the most powerful GPU

02:51:40.960 --> 02:51:43.360
But you could still run a decent size model. Yeah

02:51:44.080 --> 02:51:50.320
Right a pretty extremely slowly, but like a very decent size model in this in this

02:51:51.760 --> 02:51:59.760
That's pretty nuts I love it I love it. This was what they promised all those years ago was the CPU and the GPU working together in harmony

02:52:00.000 --> 02:52:03.360
And all it took was for apple to prove a market case for it

02:52:03.600 --> 02:52:08.800
But what are you talking about something with decent integrated graphics has been has been on our

02:52:09.600 --> 02:52:15.120
Minds forever. That was like the whole point. You guys knew it. So i'm i'm just stoked. I'm super stoked

02:52:15.440 --> 02:52:20.960
It almost makes up for my disappointment that the the z2 go is such a dog turd

02:52:22.000 --> 02:52:24.480
so I don't know they're their new z2 line of uh

02:52:25.200 --> 02:52:29.600
processors for these the z2 extreme looks sick, um, it's zen 5

02:52:29.920 --> 02:52:32.480
Combination of full zen 5 and the the compact

02:52:33.120 --> 02:52:37.360
Still full that's complicated. But basically they they don't clock as high and and stuff

02:52:37.520 --> 02:52:42.960
They don't have as much cash, but they're they're still zen 5 so zen 5 and zen 5c cores and then rd na 3.5 graphics

02:52:43.760 --> 02:52:48.320
Looks like it's going to be just killer um, I I gamed on the legion go

02:52:49.520 --> 02:52:54.080
S2 or go to legion go to prototype and it's just freaking fast

02:52:54.800 --> 02:52:58.640
There's rumors that that is supposed to be effectively the steam deck too

02:52:59.600 --> 02:53:06.320
Valve came out and said no Oh, so I don't know we'll see because I would like an actual steam deck too. Um, I think that'll be cool

02:53:06.800 --> 02:53:10.000
Uh, but anyway the z2 go wait no wait, okay

02:53:10.320 --> 02:53:14.480
You're saying no isn't they're not making one valve. Well, I don't know if they said they're not making one

02:53:14.480 --> 02:53:18.240
But they've said that they're not making that right now. Um

02:53:19.280 --> 02:53:25.920
Anyway, so the the z2 go I was really excited about it because our first deck and briefing from AMD

02:53:26.160 --> 02:53:32.320
Didn't specify what generation the cores were for the CPU or GPU. So I assumed that it was

02:53:33.040 --> 02:53:35.040
quad core with uh

02:53:36.800 --> 02:53:42.000
Is it 12 cus? I think it's 12 cus of rd na graphics

02:53:42.480 --> 02:53:45.280
Um, and I was looking at this thing going this is going to be an absolute

02:53:46.000 --> 02:53:53.280
Monster it's going to be super efficient Maybe they're like all compact zen 5 and so it's going to be this like hyper efficient

02:53:53.280 --> 02:53:56.640
This will come after like like little like like Android

02:53:57.120 --> 02:54:02.000
Android-based like emulation devices, but it'll be full x86 this thing's going to be this thing's going to be awesome

02:54:02.480 --> 02:54:07.280
And then I found out it's zen 3 and rd na 2

02:54:07.520 --> 02:54:15.680
So it's like ancient generation technology So it's not going to have the efficiency to do that because I wanted I wanted it to be current gen so you could have

02:54:16.720 --> 02:54:21.360
Like a small battery in it too like you could really build really compact pc gaming handhelds

02:54:21.840 --> 02:54:25.680
But I'm yeah Over it. But anyway, I

02:54:25.680 --> 02:54:29.280
I expressed my disappointment to them in person. I said this is what I want

02:54:29.760 --> 02:54:37.040
So and they were like, well, we can't comment on future products and I was like, yeah, yeah It's fine. I get it. But but this is the thing that I'll be excited about. So yeah, um off you go

02:54:37.520 --> 02:54:40.400
Go go go build it go go build the future AMD

02:54:40.960 --> 02:54:45.680
CLAVT in a bit Um, so who knows if they will but I I'd be very excited to see that

02:54:48.000 --> 02:54:51.360
Is your GPU specs Um

02:54:51.360 --> 02:54:59.280
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah for this thing. No, dude, this thing's this thing's wild that top spec with 16 CPU cores and 40 graphics cores

02:54:59.360 --> 02:55:02.480
honestly, I'd like to see more like a

02:55:03.360 --> 02:55:06.640
A six core or an eight core with the full graphics grunt

02:55:07.280 --> 02:55:10.640
I think I think the 385 is going to be a really

02:55:11.360 --> 02:55:15.120
Sick middle ground that thing looks awesome

02:55:15.280 --> 02:55:17.280
Um

02:55:18.800 --> 02:55:25.360
And even even the even the smaller stuff like the the z2 extreme with the 16c is that that one looks really good too

02:55:25.360 --> 02:55:27.360
But man rise and rise and ai max

02:55:29.600 --> 02:55:32.240
I'm excited. All right. What else we what else we got for today?

02:55:33.840 --> 02:55:38.160
um I think we talked about arc b580, right? Did we?

02:55:40.720 --> 02:55:44.960
I feel like we went over these. Yeah, we did. Okay, um big tv talk

02:55:45.200 --> 02:55:49.840
You talked about that. I'm pretty sure We talked about that as a part of a

02:55:50.320 --> 02:55:56.960
merge message or something Then I think my quality is still where I'd want to end up

02:55:58.080 --> 02:56:01.920
But the pricing just doesn't make any sense and it still doesn't make any sense

02:56:01.920 --> 02:56:06.560
I was looking at samsung's last gen and it's still like 150 thousand dollars for like the big one

02:56:07.360 --> 02:56:13.760
and I'm just like, okay You know when you've got tcl with their with their 115 inch that is

02:56:14.240 --> 02:56:19.200
Like 11 or 12 grand in china us and like 20 grand over here or 15?

02:56:19.280 --> 02:56:23.680
Actually, I don't know how much it is now because we're we're we're going through another cycle here

02:56:25.760 --> 02:56:29.280
Let me see if I can let me see if I can find this. What's this thing worth now? Seriously?

02:56:30.160 --> 02:56:34.160
Oh, no, this is best buy canada 27 000. Okay, so yeah, it's like 20 grand

02:56:34.720 --> 02:56:37.600
Um us. Okay, shut up. I don't care

02:56:38.240 --> 02:56:45.200
How do I switch? I just Ugh, why do you need best buy dot ca slash english

02:56:46.320 --> 02:56:53.520
Slap dash ca. Just I don't know whatever it doesn't matter. Uh, so I'm gonna say uscn. I'm gonna guess

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Nope. All right Ah

02:56:58.880 --> 02:57:06.160
Stop If I remember correctly, best buy doesn't have the like safe link thing that amazon does the links aren't identical brutal

02:57:06.800 --> 02:57:10.160
Yeah 20 grand unavailable nearby. Yeah, that's fine

02:57:10.720 --> 02:57:15.680
um Yeah, so at this price Like what you're gonna pay

02:57:16.240 --> 02:57:21.760
Eight times as much For something bigger. No, you're not. No, you're not gonna do that. It doesn't it doesn't make any sense

02:57:22.640 --> 02:57:25.840
And micro led pricing like it's coming down like it was half a million dollars

02:57:25.840 --> 02:57:29.600
Not that long ago when I was still when we were still doing a land show remotely

02:57:30.000 --> 02:57:33.760
Remember when I was talking about like could I could I make enough content to justify this thing?

02:57:34.880 --> 02:57:40.080
I don't know. Maybe maybe I'll maybe I'll spring turns out. Yes. The new samsung one looks pretty cool

02:57:40.880 --> 02:57:43.680
Alex actually did the video segment on it. It's got this like

02:57:44.240 --> 02:57:47.920
Through glass light guide thing that makes it so you can't see the seams anymore

02:57:48.480 --> 02:57:56.800
I wonder what NVIDIA was using for the keynote Oh, that's like a commercial display. So that's like uh, like powered by like a zillion quadros or whatever

02:57:57.200 --> 02:58:03.120
And as many of the small panels, but the new samsung consumer ones are big modular panels

02:58:03.120 --> 02:58:07.120
So they have way fewer seams to make the installation process easier for their integrators

02:58:07.520 --> 02:58:12.480
And also to have less likelihood of like one panel dying or fading or whatever differently

02:58:12.880 --> 02:58:17.600
Um, and so I think it's only it's like two or three for a 16 by nine

02:58:17.680 --> 02:58:21.760
And then you add like one more and it becomes like a more cinematic aspect ratio

02:58:23.120 --> 02:58:26.000
I don't know. Maybe maybe one of these days. I'll just do like

02:58:26.720 --> 02:58:30.320
I'll have like a crazy year where I'll just like

02:58:31.520 --> 02:58:36.640
Spend all the money just just go for it And I'll just I'll just say, you know what the haters

02:58:36.960 --> 02:58:41.600
Nivera and we'll just do crazy projects wall the wall. We'll do the tech yacht. We'll do the tech

02:58:42.960 --> 02:58:49.200
Yeah What do you think a tech hotel no tech hotel you do a tech I can't afford a tech hotel

02:58:52.480 --> 02:58:54.480
But you do a tech

02:58:55.520 --> 02:59:00.000
Bed and breakfast. I think I could do it. I think I could do a tech yacht here. Check this out. Check this out

02:59:00.720 --> 02:59:04.320
What the heck Why does facebook sign me out?

02:59:04.960 --> 02:59:12.240
Constantly these days. I don't get it Like constantly like every other time I touch it. It's signed out. It doesn't like you

02:59:12.880 --> 02:59:15.680
I don't blame it. I mean i'm not that into it either

02:59:16.160 --> 02:59:18.160
But marketplace is pretty sick

02:59:20.720 --> 02:59:23.920
Okay There you go facebook marketplace

02:59:25.120 --> 02:59:29.120
Yacht shopping Okay, hear me out

02:59:29.760 --> 02:59:39.600
tech yacht Okay, got that hot tub. Oh my god. My got that got that integrated barbecue. Okay, hold on 1993

02:59:40.640 --> 02:59:44.240
1993 baby 93. It's a good year. It was a good year. What is it?

02:59:44.800 --> 02:59:50.960
It's a good year. How much maintenance is this thing gonna need? I don't know man. I don't know but hear me out tech yacht

02:59:52.160 --> 02:59:56.800
This seems like something that Dan for some reason would know too much about. Yeah, I did. Yeah

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Many many many years. Of course you do

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How much how much are we looking at for maintenance on a on a boat from 1993? Yeah, Dan. Tell us about okay land

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Land right here. Okay Yacht to land

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Yacht to land get the dining room set that up for yacht to land. How much like crewing do you need for something like?

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Well, technically what how long is that one 123 feet 123 feet, baby

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I believe for that length you need a proper captain's license and now every time you want to take it anywhere

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You need to get a captain's license Morage for that a year probably would be in the high five figures if not six figures

03:00:35.360 --> 03:00:40.320
Every single year you have to take it out of the marina and then recondition the base of it

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I believe the ablative paint is like a hundred dollars a gallon and it's 123 feet and you got to throw it on pretty thick

03:00:48.320 --> 03:00:51.840
so That has to be done every single year

03:00:51.840 --> 03:00:56.880
Everything salt water so you have to be constantly replacing the sacrificial anodes around the the lakes and stuff like that

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There's three tiers. There's automotive. There's marine and then there's aerospace

03:01:02.560 --> 03:01:07.280
So a part that's a dollar for automotive you add a zero and then if you want aerospace you add another zero

03:01:09.600 --> 03:01:13.360
The salt water constantly attacks almost everything

03:01:14.080 --> 03:01:19.760
So what you're saying is that And I I had already figured this out without even knowing anything about it

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The price for this is so far off

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of like Anything else in this in this size class because as far as I can tell

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The reason that this is so cheap and I I say cheap in quotation marks because it's still over two million u.s

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dollars 130 feet, but the reason it's so cheap is because

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It's way too big For anyone who can for anyone who can afford

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Okay, it's too it's too old and it's too much to spend on maintenance

03:01:54.080 --> 03:01:58.400
Anyone who can afford to maintain it could afford something new. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say

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Like the the maintenance cost many people's salaries

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Must make actually no sense to own a boat whatsoever on a boat from

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1993 how many times that you do you think you'd even use it? Well, I wouldn't use it at all

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But what we would do It risks even if you just don't use it. That's the thing is the maintenance is

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Always so god help you if the stringers are gone. So hear me out

03:02:23.280 --> 03:02:28.080
Hear me out We we we sub let it to a charter company

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So so first we do we do content we bring it up. We dry dock it

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Okay, I have people that you should talk to if you are actually considering this

03:02:36.560 --> 03:02:42.800
Well, I'm not sure if I'm I'm not sure if I'm considering it But what I'm definitely doing is talking about it on the wanshow and we never know what'll happen if we talk about it

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On the wanshow so okay, so what I'm proposing though what I'm proposing is we buy it

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We dry dock it We tech it the out

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Like we turn it into the ultimate just like

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gamer bro Hangout space

03:02:58.320 --> 03:03:02.400
The dry dock is also super expensive. Oh, I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is

03:03:02.800 --> 03:03:06.400
Oh, it's terrible But we we milk it

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We milk this thing for content. We got it. We got it up on the stilts. We're going like this

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We are milking it we get sponsors in for like all the hardware that we put into it

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We put a bunch of like home automation crap and stuff in it

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We put like a whole bunch of well, yeah, because everything should just be automatic

03:03:23.120 --> 03:03:26.880
You should like walk in the room and it should be like you can't even get the whole automation in your house

03:03:26.960 --> 03:03:30.240
Working how you're gonna get home automation in a boat. That's just because I don't do it though

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Like it's I could I could do it at this point. I could replace all the light switches with something else and spend like

03:03:35.680 --> 03:03:38.880
Probably two or three weekends programming it, but I just don't feel like it

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You get this sponsored by a yacht manufacturer at like bay line or there's no way they would care

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They don't know who we are. I'm not even I wouldn't even bother calling them, but

03:03:48.160 --> 03:03:54.000
So we dry dock it and they might we milk it. You don't know we milk it for content Jimmy Fallon. So we do

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It's true. So we do like We do like 10 to 20 videos

03:03:59.680 --> 03:04:07.600
I mean look how many videos we made about techifying my house And this honestly is like kind of cooler in some ways because we'd be solving some pretty interesting problems

03:04:08.720 --> 03:04:11.840
So then We we do like a maiden voyage

03:04:12.080 --> 03:04:16.720
Okay, where we do like like the world's floatiest land party or whatever, you know

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You can finally do lowlander and then and then we well

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We don't want to go that deep. We want to stay on the surface of the water. That would be zero, right? Yeah, sure. So um

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And then we we yeah, we so we just we just like sublet it there's there's companies that manage charters for your for your boat

03:04:35.440 --> 03:04:39.360
Or whatever and then we let people book like gamer gamer boat charters

03:04:39.840 --> 03:04:45.600
So they go around they like, you know pat about or whatever and they they they game and they drink some alcohol

03:04:45.600 --> 03:04:49.520
They do what people do and they you know charter a boat going boats dude, dude

03:04:51.360 --> 03:04:56.640
Actual whale land where we see actual whales Are you uh, are you planning to do the land party like out?

03:04:57.520 --> 03:05:06.560
In the middle of the ocean or something like that. Why not? Because like I believe that the fuel for a generator to run a boat like this is roughly 40 to 60 thousand dollars a day

03:05:06.720 --> 03:05:13.680
Yeah, I know But that's the problem of the people who rent it. Well, think about the think about the water cooling like you could do

03:05:14.560 --> 03:05:20.080
water cooling Ocean cooled ocean cooled land party. Mm-hmm

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Whale whale land. Yeah

03:05:24.720 --> 03:05:30.960
Whoever loses has to like Jump off the boat and swim around at once and then climb back on before they play again

03:05:31.200 --> 03:05:34.560
Richie's plank experience in vr, but actually with a plank

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Oh

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Tech-yatched

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I already asked Yvonne to book a time for us to go see it. My god

03:05:53.040 --> 03:05:59.520
I'm still not sure how serious I am though Dan. I just want to see it. Okay. I'm going to um, I'll get you some numbers to call

03:06:01.040 --> 03:06:05.040
I'm not that serious yet. No, no just as like an explored. It'd be a fun conversation

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I'm just going to go see it first and then

03:06:08.800 --> 03:06:12.720
And then I will I will I will see how serious I actually am

03:06:13.680 --> 03:06:21.280
Dan knows a guy for everything j5 That's why I was like, yeah, no, no, no. This is a team of people. I will put you in touch with a team of people

03:06:22.960 --> 03:06:28.000
I'm not that serious yet I think it'd be a fun thing. I also have my eye on a plane

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I do not have a person for those Actually, yeah that oh actually

03:06:33.600 --> 03:06:38.400
Together we can get somewhere you actually you have someone on staff that can fly planes. No, I have I have a plane guy

03:06:41.600 --> 03:06:45.200
No, you can have the plane guy. I got the pilot guy. I got bush plane guy

03:06:45.680 --> 03:06:52.320
Oh, they're they're like sick like action. No, I have a Floatplane guy. Nice. He used to build them behind our house

03:06:56.320 --> 03:06:58.320
I'm gonna buy you a Floatplane

03:06:59.600 --> 03:07:04.560
Joe Joe can fly it That's so cool. So, um

03:07:05.440 --> 03:07:08.960
That one would be also techifying but is really challenging because

03:07:10.400 --> 03:07:14.080
They're what if you did a helicopter and then you could land your helicopter on your yacht

03:07:14.080 --> 03:07:20.560
I can't put any like tech in it, but you could land your helicopter on your yacht Yeah, but there'd be no tech in it. I need content. Otherwise. I'm not spending any money on anything

03:07:21.120 --> 03:07:29.760
So if you get a big enough, no, no, you did the tech van A backseat gaming station. No, but helicopter. They can't lift anything like as soon as you put like a tv in it

03:07:29.920 --> 03:07:34.480
You take away like half a passenger worth of Capacity like you can't

03:07:34.560 --> 03:07:40.560
There's definitely helicopters that can lift things decommissioned military helicopter. Sure. But what are they schwocherskis?

03:07:40.720 --> 03:07:44.720
You can buy blackhawks. You can straight up buy blackhawks. Okay, unlike unlike both of you

03:07:44.800 --> 03:07:49.440
I'm having a serious conversation here. So I don't buy a 2.5 million dollar 130 foot

03:07:49.440 --> 03:07:52.960
I'm having a serious conversation. It's not gonna be that much expensive

03:07:53.440 --> 03:08:03.120
I don't know the price of paint people will just charter it We're like some of the worst economic times in history people just charter my gaming yacht for for for 120 000 dollars a day

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It'll be fine. Great. Luke. It'll be fine. Yeah, they are. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. Actually. All right

03:08:08.240 --> 03:08:10.240
Although they're not shopping at tiffany's so

03:08:11.520 --> 03:08:18.080
Okay, so back to the back to the jet The issue with the jet is we're looking at an order of magnitude greater price

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If we want to wait an actual jet, you're not not a prop plane. Yeah, holy crap. Okay. Yeah

03:08:24.800 --> 03:08:28.560
Yeah, so so so so by the well if you're looking at a prop plane

03:08:28.800 --> 03:08:33.520
You're not gonna have the kind of seating capacity and the kind of lift capacity that you'd

03:08:34.160 --> 03:08:40.000
Okay, and i'm not talking about some freaking flying fortress or whatever like obviously yeah it would but that's not a thing

03:08:40.000 --> 03:08:42.640
You can buy like i'm talking if you pick up like a

03:08:43.440 --> 03:08:49.600
How about I use golf stream or something? Yeah, so something with like I'm talking something with like a dozen seats

03:08:49.840 --> 03:08:52.880
Or something like that like you can get prop planes and they're cheaper

03:08:52.960 --> 03:08:57.760
But they're they're like slow um, so anyway

03:08:58.080 --> 03:09:07.920
The challenge with the really small affordable private jets is their lift capacity like their their uh, their passenger and cargo capacity is like super low

03:09:08.400 --> 03:09:12.000
so if you want to get into something that you would actually be able to like

03:09:13.200 --> 03:09:18.000
Re-furnish the inside with anything that is not made of carbon fiber

03:09:18.240 --> 03:09:21.440
You know like if we were to put a bunch of TVs in it or something

03:09:21.600 --> 03:09:24.800
Oh, there's no prop planes that can fit people in them. No, I didn't say that

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I said that they're I said that the amount that they can lift is not that much

03:09:28.640 --> 03:09:31.600
This fits 50 people. I'm pretty sure you can lift a decent amount of stuff

03:09:32.960 --> 03:09:37.600
Uh, okay. Yeah, but that's going to be like a like an 80 million dollar jet

03:09:37.680 --> 03:09:40.800
Like i'm talking stuff that's in the that's in the five to 15

03:09:40.880 --> 03:09:49.040
You just want like a 10 person golf stream With with extra luggage capacity. Yeah, that's that's a gigantic plane luke. Yeah, but that's a plane

03:09:49.520 --> 03:09:55.440
There's like a billion of them This is not one thing one of the one of the stages of this. Okay luke

03:09:56.320 --> 03:10:01.680
I'm trying to tell you right now In the like in the small private plane space

03:10:02.160 --> 03:10:07.760
The amount of cargo and people that they can lift is very limited. Yeah, okay

03:10:08.400 --> 03:10:11.600
So in order to get to something that you could actually like

03:10:12.000 --> 03:10:16.960
Put a bunch of tech into without it adversely affecting how many people you can carry

03:10:17.760 --> 03:10:22.400
It's not going to be like five million. It's going to be like 15

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which is a lot

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And once again once again the plan would be

03:10:31.920 --> 03:10:40.400
the plan would be like Tech it out and then there's services that like as far as I can tell almost nobody who owns a private jet

03:10:40.880 --> 03:10:47.680
Like just just like some people would oh, yeah There's your supreme like billionaire billionaires like clubs who fly all the time

03:10:47.920 --> 03:10:52.480
But then a lot of them are fractional ownership or people who are just

03:10:53.200 --> 03:10:59.360
Chartering them. Yeah, a lot of play even like hobby planes A lot of them are like that and people who own them a hundred percent a lot of the time

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They will they will make them available to these charter companies

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So that they're actually like being used and stuff getting some of the money back in that can be used for to cover maintenance costs

03:11:09.120 --> 03:11:13.120
Yeah, um, I feel like there's some because there's there's old stories of like

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um Like NFL players playing starcraft on on planes between games and stuff

03:11:20.080 --> 03:11:22.640
Like if you if you had an actual like sick setup

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I don't know. Would you do computers though? I don't know like that's but that's part of what would be really fun about a project like this

03:11:31.200 --> 03:11:36.320
Trying to figure out like how to do it, right? Yeah, figuring out what would actually be like the sickest

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I don't know setup rich people brains, but I feel like a gaming plane

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You might actually get charted out more often than a gaming yacht

03:11:46.560 --> 03:11:51.920
Especially if your gaming yacht is based in like vancouver. Yeah, like I think if your gaming yacht was based

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Somewhere else like I have no idea what like a coastal

03:11:55.920 --> 03:11:58.640
South korean city would be but like something like that

03:11:59.040 --> 03:12:04.000
Somewhere with like a huge gamer culture or if it like if you moved it around from time to time

03:12:04.400 --> 03:12:09.360
Or something. So it was like in the city for a few months. So it doesn't get stale. It's like, yeah

03:12:10.320 --> 03:12:14.640
Whale whale a yachts land is coming to you know, japan

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And it's going to be in these cities at these times you can rent it out and you can take it out and experience it or whatever

03:12:19.760 --> 03:12:23.200
I could see that people would fly into vancouver to take it to the

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Golf islands or you know, you can even go all the way up to prince rupert

03:12:26.640 --> 03:12:36.720
So it ends up being like a like a cruise ship And the thing about 100 the thing about 123 foot boat is that you don't pay $60,000 individually

03:12:37.040 --> 03:12:39.760
No, so yeah, it's group you and 50 of your friends

03:12:40.320 --> 03:12:48.400
50 take it out. Oh easy, dude Did you see that thing? Have you have you been on one of those at sleep? They sleep like 10 maybe. Yeah, that's what I was thinking

03:12:48.960 --> 03:12:55.440
You're not sleeping on it. You just like let's like that one that we rented for paint night. Remember when we did that paint night event

03:12:56.160 --> 03:13:01.040
Were you not at it? Oh, you weren't with the company yet. Okay. Well, whatever we chartered a boat for like a paint night

03:13:01.760 --> 03:13:09.600
Um, yeah, I guess probably during the separation time. Yeah, I'm thinking like couples who would charter this. Yeah easy 40 50 people on it

03:13:09.920 --> 03:13:15.760
Um Fit on it. I don't think it was this size like an outing. Yeah, we were just talking taking it to the gulf island

03:13:15.760 --> 03:13:21.360
Oh when I'm talking taking it around to places. I'm not talking you charter it and you like go

03:13:21.920 --> 03:13:26.560
I'm talking like we Bring it there

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And it's like, yeah, it's here for a month Book through this company that's based there understood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, exactly

03:13:33.680 --> 03:13:37.120
So you don't like so it doesn't just get stale like it's not just

03:13:37.680 --> 03:13:42.080
Sitting in this one marine all the time hoping there's enough local people that are going to use it all the time

03:13:42.320 --> 03:13:48.960
Like you like take it around To different port cities in the world and people can like charter it out from that

03:13:49.120 --> 03:13:52.880
No idea what the logistics would be of something like that. It's just one of those like

03:13:53.520 --> 03:13:57.360
dream big Never follow through on it kinds of things, right? Mm-hmm

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I'd be actually excited for the first exterior paint job

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Not because I love spending money, but because like

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I think this in like You know black with a bunch of RGB would look pretty good

03:14:13.840 --> 03:14:18.720
Is there any regulations does it not look like just a razor boat you can like paint it however you want

03:14:18.720 --> 03:14:25.120
But normally it's done in gel coat just because of the yeah, I don't know. It's like complicated. It's very very very complicated

03:14:25.280 --> 03:14:29.440
Oh, dude green and pink Lambo style. What would you call it? You have to name it?

03:14:30.400 --> 03:14:33.840
Uh, if it already has a name it can be quite difficult divan

03:14:35.920 --> 03:14:39.360
My muse no, I would call it something else. I don't know what I'd call it. I don't know

03:14:40.000 --> 03:14:46.080
Linus tug tips Terrible the right off the right off the bad is tug tips is

03:14:46.640 --> 03:14:52.720
We'd have to call it bode mcboat face though. Yeah, colders, right? That's that's that's already a call sign

03:14:52.720 --> 03:14:55.760
You can't did they actually follow through on that? Oh, yeah, I thought they did

03:14:55.760 --> 03:14:59.920
Oh, okay. It's legally called that now. All right. Well, we'd come up with something

03:14:59.920 --> 03:15:03.760
We'd come up with I think it's really really difficult to actually get it changed. I can't remember

03:15:03.920 --> 03:15:07.520
Oh, really? So it'll be called whatever it's called sovereign lady is apparently what it's called now

03:15:07.600 --> 03:15:10.800
Yeah, so you you can go through a new registration process, but it's pretty difficult

03:15:11.760 --> 03:15:16.080
I don't know this the the literal first prop plane I googled seems to make a lot of sense

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Just saying when you got oh, whoops wrong screen

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This is the same one I brought up before carrying capacity 12,500 pounds dash eight. It's pretty popular. Yeah 3.7 million

03:15:27.280 --> 03:15:31.520
I think it was said how sorry how much is what's the range of this thing though? That might be a problem

03:15:31.520 --> 03:15:37.360
So I was only trying to fly to I was only 900 miles that could go that can do sorry 900 miles

03:15:37.760 --> 03:15:41.360
Oh, that's like nothing. That's a yikes. That's an ai thing though. So, okay

03:15:41.680 --> 03:15:46.320
I was only looking at stuff that could cross the Atlantic cross the Atlantic. Yeah

03:15:46.960 --> 03:15:52.080
Okay, yeah, you're screwed eliminating. Yeah, I thought you were staying north america because the whole thing is like

03:15:52.160 --> 03:15:56.320
I would want this to be something that people would actually go somewhere in like

03:15:57.040 --> 03:16:01.520
It's not a cargo vehicle cross the Atlantic dramatically limits your options. Okay. So

03:16:02.000 --> 03:16:07.440
Hopefully that makes it more clear that makes a I was kind of thinking you're a little nuts. It makes a lot

03:16:07.440 --> 03:16:10.480
Yeah, no, I'm not an idiot. Like what are you talking about? Okay. Yeah, okay

03:16:11.040 --> 03:16:16.000
And across the pacific would be ideal That also explains the price range you were talking about a lot more

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I found one plane that seemed like kind of a balance it was but like this yacht it was older

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And so I'm sure there's a reason and it's that anyone that can afford a private plane

03:16:27.760 --> 03:16:30.880
Can afford something better than anyone who can afford the maintenance of this plane

03:16:30.880 --> 03:16:37.840
Yeah, can afford a better plane than this. Yeah, but then you know the the value ad we would bring is making it like

03:16:39.680 --> 03:16:44.480
Like a sick plane for for for gaming because everyone anyone can watch a movie on the plane

03:16:45.520 --> 03:16:49.280
but can you like game on a on a giant

03:16:49.760 --> 03:16:55.200
You know, I don't know curved projection screen that lowers down like I don't know like I don't know what you come up with

03:16:55.280 --> 03:16:58.560
Well, you got a couple of pontoons and you would go and like float them out in the bay

03:17:00.960 --> 03:17:07.680
Are you talking about the plane or the boat now? Okay. Yeah, okay. That makes more sense. I mean not much more, but yes

03:17:10.160 --> 03:17:15.680
Check out the jet business channel on youtube 1999 737 for as little as 4.5 million

03:17:16.080 --> 03:17:20.640
Oh god, I can't even imagine the maintenance or something like that. Yeah a 737

03:17:21.360 --> 03:17:26.080
The fuel efficiency is probably an issue at that point the the cost to fly it is

03:17:27.040 --> 03:17:29.360
Wild dude. Yeah, absolutely

03:17:30.080 --> 03:17:32.880
Wild okay, apparently this this channel does like

03:17:33.520 --> 03:17:38.720
Tours of planes that are for sale what I've learned after selling private jets to billionaires for 40 years

03:17:39.280 --> 03:17:44.400
Oh, what a fascinating channel. I love this guy. What a fascinating channel. He's so suave

03:17:45.760 --> 03:17:53.600
You have to be I guess This is great. How to sell a 55 million dollar private jet and sitting in his office. I love it

03:17:54.240 --> 03:18:01.040
I love it a day in my life. Look at this. Love this guy does look like someone who spent his life selling 55 million dollar private jet

03:18:01.040 --> 03:18:05.600
He really does doesn't he? Yeah Love it

03:18:06.480 --> 03:18:11.760
Man you'd meet some you'd meet some characters. I'm sure working in an industry like that, dude

03:18:11.920 --> 03:18:16.400
You'd meet some characters Okay, so

03:18:18.640 --> 03:18:26.160
A gulfstream g5 50 I think that was one of the models. I was kind of looking at Gulf streams. They'll go to

03:18:27.680 --> 03:18:32.320
Uh, there was another one that was like a more sensible less brand name one that also made sense

03:18:32.320 --> 03:18:37.120
I can't remember. I can't remember which one it was. Is it normal that these like smaller more private planes would be slower?

03:18:37.920 --> 03:18:43.440
Is that normal? Um, not that much slower. The jets are pretty jets are pretty jetty

03:18:44.160 --> 03:18:50.400
Anyway, this is not this is not a real

03:18:50.880 --> 03:18:55.200
Yes, it is. Uh, yeah, this is not a real conversation. Oh, yeah, there were some

03:18:57.680 --> 03:19:00.560
I think there was a global 5000 that was priced pretty well

03:19:01.120 --> 03:19:07.680
Annual budget for flying a Gulfstream g5 50 can range between 1.7 million and 2.6 million per year

03:19:08.480 --> 03:19:12.720
Just just costs. Yeah, well, that's not just on top of buying it. Yeah, because you got to pay

03:19:12.960 --> 03:19:19.360
I was reading um, I was reading an article from an interview with someone who was basically like 200 grand a month

03:19:19.600 --> 03:19:23.040
If you can't afford a lot more math if you can't afford two private jets

03:19:23.360 --> 03:19:27.200
You can't afford a private jet because one of them is always down for maintenance anyway

03:19:28.720 --> 03:19:30.720
And I was like

03:19:32.160 --> 03:19:36.960
Well, when you're when you're chartering it, that's yeah, that's a completely different story. Yes

03:19:38.080 --> 03:19:42.240
Um, no, maybe it was available when it started me. Maybe it wasn't a global 5000. Hold on

03:19:42.560 --> 03:19:45.920
It was a global something whatever the entry level global is

03:19:46.480 --> 03:19:54.240
It costs 300 dollars an hour to own a private jet just to own it. So that's 24 7 dude 24 7 2.6 million

03:19:54.640 --> 03:19:59.360
300 bucks an hour. Yeah, and the the fuel burn per hour is like

03:20:00.320 --> 03:20:04.560
Crazy, oh, I'm sure like you go down to la you spent like 20 grand or something like that

03:20:04.560 --> 03:20:08.160
I forget what the exact numbers were do not quote me on that, but it's like

03:20:09.200 --> 03:20:17.520
Unbelievable like colossal colossal amounts of money. This is on your ever closer progression to getting towards taylor swift

03:20:17.680 --> 03:20:24.880
So this is yeah, yeah, yeah My thighs are almost as thick as her. So we're getting there. We're getting there. Yeah, we're getting there. We're at progress

03:20:24.960 --> 03:20:26.960
Yeah progress we'll make it

03:20:28.560 --> 03:20:35.040
Oh a blimp blimp could be good Blimp would be hind and land don't they have like what could go wrong serious

03:20:35.920 --> 03:20:41.440
Cargo issues. Yeah, they can barely take like a person. Yeah, they were better when you could put hydrogen in

03:20:43.360 --> 03:20:45.360
Those things were amazing

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Just unlimited cargo capacity

03:20:53.040 --> 03:20:57.280
Yikes So I think that uh, I think that you know

03:20:57.840 --> 03:21:02.160
The yacht is probably a better place to start than the plane. You know, this seems nice

03:21:02.480 --> 03:21:08.080
I think we could host a pretty good land in here But but but I I'm looking like long-term business

03:21:08.720 --> 03:21:13.120
I think they're both stupid honestly. Well people have plane chartering

03:21:13.920 --> 03:21:18.720
Services that are quite successful. People have boat chartering services that are quite successful for yachts. Is that a thing?

03:21:18.800 --> 03:21:26.080
I have no idea. Oh, yeah, I yeah But yeah, yeah a day just going out into the bay and then back though. Is that a thing? Oh, yeah

03:21:26.400 --> 03:21:32.000
Yeah, especially that hosting a party. Yeah, especially that people have parties on boats. It's a thing also taking a boat

03:21:32.640 --> 03:21:36.720
I'm on a boat take a good hard look at like it's taking people places

03:21:36.880 --> 03:21:42.880
So there you know, there's a guy that uh, you know, he he does charters. He does fishing trips up to uh, very up north

03:21:43.040 --> 03:21:50.640
Yeah, and so if you could game on your way If you if you're a billionaire and your son is a little dingus and you want to go on a fishing trip

03:21:50.960 --> 03:21:56.080
But you know, your son isn't going to care about fishing but he can play can bring all his friends cod and yell at his friends

03:21:56.320 --> 03:22:03.360
Yeah, and you can fish with your Hire a captain you hire maintenance and with the newest starlink systems. Yeah, they'll play just fine

03:22:03.520 --> 03:22:07.120
Dude, you could like really like game on this thing like

03:22:08.320 --> 03:22:13.280
I don't know. Do you think either of these do you think the business case could make it pay for itself?

03:22:14.800 --> 03:22:18.240
I think ignore the initial investment. I honestly just mean the maintenance cost

03:22:18.480 --> 03:22:23.440
Um, oh So ignore the price up front and ignore the price to renovate

03:22:24.000 --> 03:22:30.480
I just mean keeping it. I have no idea the the reality of it is that we could make our best guess

03:22:30.560 --> 03:22:33.600
We could talk to Dan's people and we could try and come up with something

03:22:34.640 --> 03:22:44.320
but we probably Would run into unexpected because we're buying in in any case like I have I have used yacht money

03:22:45.040 --> 03:22:49.200
I don't have new yacht money. Yeah. Yeah. So like you don't buy a new yacht

03:22:49.520 --> 03:22:57.120
We're gonna be we're gonna be running into Unexpected challenges, right maintenance issues unknown problems. Yeah

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Whole hitting something in the water and losing a prop

03:23:04.080 --> 03:23:08.720
Five grand Dent it five grand ten grand. I was expecting way more than that

03:23:09.760 --> 03:23:13.040
I don't know. I mean, it's just a hunk of metal, you know still so on the one hand

03:23:13.040 --> 03:23:19.360
But it's just a custom specialized not common hunk of metal. Yeah, that has to survive under water. Maybe we could 3d print a new one

03:23:24.400 --> 03:23:28.560
Oh, man, I'm talking about like the dent. Okay. Tell you what Dan. Yeah

03:23:29.520 --> 03:23:33.040
Why don't you make the call that makes more sense. Why don't you make the call? Oh my

03:23:33.280 --> 03:23:37.680
It decides between clean and boat do we call them? They can be here in 35 minutes

03:23:37.680 --> 03:23:41.040
Do we proceed you want to like a do we proceed with Linus tech yacht?

03:23:42.000 --> 03:23:49.760
That yacht in particular. I'm not entirely sure Um, this is the only one similar that I found locally. Anyway, I'll tell you that much

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I'm sure that around the world. There's lots of other options. Yeah, you can get them imported if you want

03:23:53.840 --> 03:23:56.320
but what I can also tell you is that

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I would be most inclined for something that is aging and affordable that we could like

03:24:04.000 --> 03:24:07.120
Basically gut because we'd be we'd be pretty much gutting it from a

03:24:07.920 --> 03:24:11.520
From like an interior standpoint that is a lot better to do

03:24:12.080 --> 03:24:16.000
Yeah, right. You want like if you if you got it you can see exactly what the hell's wrong with it

03:24:16.160 --> 03:24:22.800
Whereas this one was redone in 2022. So I'd feel kind of bad. Yeah, but like clearly some stuff they didn't

03:24:23.120 --> 03:24:25.600
But you can tell some stuff. They actually did

03:24:26.320 --> 03:24:32.400
Do quite recently like that last bathroom does not look redone. This kitchen looks like it might have been redone

03:24:33.120 --> 03:24:36.400
Fairly recently. Um, excuse me Galley

03:24:36.400 --> 03:24:39.760
Sorry. Yes, galley. This bathroom looks like it. Excuse me

03:24:40.560 --> 03:24:45.680
Head putting you away. Uh, this bathroom looks like it was done very recently

03:24:46.480 --> 03:24:50.400
Um, this bedroom also looks like it was done recently. So it's like I'd feel kind of bad

03:24:51.200 --> 03:24:53.200
Uh, ripping some of that stuff out

03:24:54.400 --> 03:24:56.960
Yeah, good hole. Good engine. The rest

03:24:58.160 --> 03:25:02.640
Someone asked, did you really send them a message? They specifically said in the description would be ignored

03:25:02.960 --> 03:25:07.520
No, the reason everyone sends is this still available is because it auto populates you guys

03:25:08.160 --> 03:25:14.640
I don't understand why people get mad about it Because I've had so much stuff. See look high is this still available

03:25:14.880 --> 03:25:19.520
I've had so much stuff that I've messaged people about asking some other question. They're like, yeah, it's not available

03:25:19.520 --> 03:25:22.000
Or it's pending to someone like people do not

03:25:22.560 --> 03:25:27.040
Update their stuff. Don't get mad at me for asking if your if your stuff's up to date

03:25:27.840 --> 03:25:31.040
Get mad at other sellers for not having their stuff up to date. Like what do you

03:25:33.120 --> 03:25:36.320
Don't I don't know dude. It's the customer is always right

03:25:37.120 --> 03:25:40.320
Within reason and I think asking if something is available

03:25:40.400 --> 03:25:45.040
I walk into a retail fucking store and I ask if something's in stock is always right in matters of taste

03:25:45.600 --> 03:25:52.960
Well, whatever. I think that I think that it is in perfectly good taste to ask someone if something is available right now

03:25:53.440 --> 03:25:58.480
Sure, because it's it's you got to start the conversation somehow. It's like I walk up to someone on the street

03:25:59.200 --> 03:26:02.480
I'll be like You know, hi, how's it going?

03:26:02.640 --> 03:26:04.640
Do you have time to talk right now? I'm not I'm not like

03:26:06.000 --> 03:26:13.280
Hi, what size is that hoodie you're wearing? Like I I don't know. I think a lot of people would would do that. I'm not saying that's the right thing

03:26:13.360 --> 03:26:15.440
But I think it's I do deliver for free

03:26:17.440 --> 03:26:21.680
Yeah, yes, you can make like hey, I see you put this thing up for free for zero dollars

03:26:21.760 --> 03:26:30.640
But could you uh, could you deliver it too? Thank you Okay, I want a pinball machine speaking of just sort of wow. You're really on a tear right now. I know I know

03:26:31.360 --> 03:26:37.040
Um, I want a pinball machine, but unfortunately, I don't know nearly enough about this stuff. I want it for smash champs

03:26:37.040 --> 03:26:44.480
I'm moving super checks there And we've got a pool table and there's like a lounge. We're gonna have you think the pinball machine sound is going to be distracting

03:26:44.880 --> 03:26:48.560
No, it should be fine. Okay. Yeah, it's going to be like up on the second level. Yeah up on the lounge

03:26:48.560 --> 03:26:52.800
How much does sound bleed from up there should be fine. Nice. Yeah, because badminton's loud like it's fine

03:26:52.880 --> 03:26:56.560
And and the place is like sound treated. So you're going to have some absorption there. I'm not worried about it

03:26:56.560 --> 03:26:59.280
Okay, cool. Um, anyway, the point is I want a pinball machine

03:27:00.240 --> 03:27:05.440
But dude This rabbit hole is freaking crazy nuts

03:27:06.320 --> 03:27:09.280
So maybe not today, but one of these days

03:27:10.000 --> 03:27:14.160
I'm gonna get your guys help. I don't need to buy the most collectors edition thing

03:27:14.640 --> 03:27:19.200
I just want something that's really fun to play Dan. Do you definitely know too much about this as well?

03:27:19.280 --> 03:27:25.200
I'm assuming yes. Uh, just fixing them. Oh, yeah, of course. Sorry. So I want I want you guys to help me pick something

03:27:25.840 --> 03:27:30.960
Um, because like someone could say someone could say like, oh, yeah, you know, this is

03:27:31.600 --> 03:27:37.040
This is a super rare collectors item, you know thing and I wouldn't know the difference. Dude. Yeah, that part

03:27:37.120 --> 03:27:40.800
Do you see this thing? Facebook marketplace has the weirdest stuff

03:27:42.640 --> 03:27:46.000
It's apparently built from scratch to a

03:27:46.640 --> 03:27:52.080
175th scale. Look at these drawings. They want 35 grand in cam loops

03:27:52.480 --> 03:27:55.920
I think it may actually have $35,000 worth of

03:27:56.640 --> 03:28:01.600
Of work in it, but I can't Nazi logo. Imagine who is going to buy

03:28:02.400 --> 03:28:08.080
A 175th scale Bismarck. Anyway, you get that for your land boat. Yeah, for sure. Very cool

03:28:08.560 --> 03:28:14.640
Swastika, dude, my facebook marketplace is freaking unhinged because I go out of my way to click on weird stuff

03:28:15.520 --> 03:28:19.920
I had one of these when I was a kid. Dude, that's crazy. I had this exact super soaker

03:28:19.920 --> 03:28:21.920
This may be the one that I used to spray the cop

03:28:22.960 --> 03:28:26.240
Um Wow, that's so cool

03:28:26.560 --> 03:28:31.120
Anyway, so yeah, I need you guys to help me. I need you guys to help me find a pinball machine at some point

03:28:31.120 --> 03:28:35.280
But I'm not in a huge hurry but I just I want something that's like

03:28:35.760 --> 03:28:39.760
New enough and like lots of you know stuff like fun enough

03:28:40.160 --> 03:28:45.360
But it doesn't have to be like, you know, like the the one it has doesn't have to have like a super low number of plays

03:28:45.360 --> 03:28:50.720
It's going to get played to crap because we probably won't even won't even have a queen slot on it

03:28:50.720 --> 03:28:56.080
Like you'll just walk up and play it So something that can kind of get get beat up without it, you know

03:28:56.640 --> 03:29:00.240
ruining an important piece of pinball machine history or whatever

03:29:01.360 --> 03:29:06.320
People are trying to say that's the the Chinese symbol not the swastika, but the Bismarck is a german oh

03:29:06.320 --> 03:29:11.680
Yeah, a hundred percent. Nazi german ship. Like that's a swastika. Don't even guys stop. Oh my god

03:29:11.840 --> 03:29:14.160
Actually stop now before you embarrass yourself

03:29:16.320 --> 03:29:21.600
Uh Are we switching to after dark? Have we done all of our topics if if you buy the boat?

03:29:22.720 --> 03:29:27.200
Yeah, okay, apparently we're not done with this yet. Not quite if you buy the boat and it like works out

03:29:28.480 --> 03:29:32.640
You buy the plane. Oh, yeah, a hundred percent. So then yeah, the plane is phase two. So it becomes like

03:29:34.000 --> 03:29:41.520
Like luxury gaming chartering services. Well, the plane is actually phase three phase one should really be a um

03:29:42.640 --> 03:29:50.960
Like a like an rv or something Like that that would be so yeah, you take your game or rv that one would kind of have to stay here

03:29:51.360 --> 03:29:59.200
I think um, yeah, yes and no Like I think I think it makes way more sense here because rv-ing on the west coast is huge

03:29:59.600 --> 03:30:03.280
Yeah, so we wouldn't have to take it anywhere else. You could you could maybe go over the border a little bit

03:30:03.360 --> 03:30:06.480
Like it go down to yeah down to washington or again. Yeah, exactly

03:30:06.880 --> 03:30:12.960
Like I could see that totally being a thing but like a trip over the Rockies and that thing is going to kind of suck

03:30:13.200 --> 03:30:19.200
why Maintenance stuff dealing with like moving it really long distances is very expensive

03:30:19.760 --> 03:30:23.760
No, it should be okay. I mean it's an rv, right? Like it's no it's really expensive

03:30:24.080 --> 03:30:27.200
They break down constantly maintenance is a nightmare. I'll show you what I know

03:30:27.840 --> 03:30:32.480
Well, I mean to a bus that could just be like the few people that I know in their experiences

03:30:32.480 --> 03:30:38.720
Yeah bus bus would be pretty cool But yeah, it would be so so so the the the the phases

03:30:39.920 --> 03:30:45.520
That I have discussed with taren So this is at least you know, wow somewhat. This is moving somewhat talked about

03:30:45.680 --> 03:30:49.680
Uh, the the phases that I've discussed imagine having taren's job, dude

03:30:50.720 --> 03:30:54.640
Oh, yeah managing me. It's gotta be nuts. I mean taren can I buy a boat?

03:30:56.000 --> 03:31:02.240
No, I know Play no the plane at rv. Maybe thank you. Thank you

03:31:02.960 --> 03:31:06.480
It's what I said. It's what I said when we first hired him, right?

03:31:06.560 --> 03:31:11.360
Like who has a better chance to manage me than someone who's done it successfully once before

03:31:11.920 --> 03:31:15.680
You know, that's the only way he stands any chance. We know this

03:31:16.240 --> 03:31:19.920
Um, so yeah, the way I pitched it was like we could escalate

03:31:20.480 --> 03:31:25.760
In terms of the upfront investments and see if there's actually any appetite to charter a gamer

03:31:26.240 --> 03:31:31.360
Yeah, you know x but you're starting with a yacht. You're not starting with the rv starting with no no starting with

03:31:31.440 --> 03:31:34.880
Oh, you're starting with the rv. Yeah. Yeah, so the plane would be phase three

03:31:35.280 --> 03:31:38.000
Got it. I mean I could see us jumping straight to boat

03:31:38.640 --> 03:31:42.000
Because I think the boat's way cooler. I think it's you know, have a better market with a boat

03:31:42.240 --> 03:31:49.440
It's hotel phase four. Um chain of hotels if your rv works your boat works and your plane works

03:31:50.800 --> 03:31:53.840
So I don't know if we've talked about this on wandshow. Who's to stop?

03:31:53.920 --> 03:31:58.720
Did we talk about the paint palace on wandshow? They all take you straight to the Linus cult

03:32:00.000 --> 03:32:06.800
Linus Linus town. We legitimately explored buying this hotel when it was for sale last year

03:32:07.280 --> 03:32:14.480
Two years ago whenever it was for sale Um, we we legitimately looked into it. It was gonna cost I think

03:32:15.360 --> 03:32:18.800
30 million dollars or something like that to to reno

03:32:18.960 --> 03:32:24.800
So we would have had to move the company here in order to justify it and we couldn't get buy-in from the city

03:32:25.520 --> 03:32:34.400
Slash we couldn't like it was pretty cool. It was like 160 000 square feet or something like that massive huge

03:32:34.800 --> 03:32:41.360
So the idea was that we would we would do it kind of like universal studios where it's like partially actually working

03:32:42.000 --> 03:32:45.680
Offices and studios for our company and then partially gamer hotel

03:32:46.400 --> 03:32:50.240
um It was a cool idea cool dream

03:32:51.200 --> 03:32:54.400
Didn't have the money then Don't have the money now

03:32:54.400 --> 03:32:58.320
We would have to be operating on like a completely different scale or we would have to

03:32:59.040 --> 03:33:05.920
take outside investment which Honestly, I think I'm at the stage in my life where I just don't ever want to do it. Don't need to

03:33:06.400 --> 03:33:10.160
Yeah, ask it screw it. Also that place had a lot of like

03:33:11.280 --> 03:33:15.440
Potential sketchiness No, it was like mid-reno. No, it was okay

03:33:16.160 --> 03:33:21.040
So so I well no I can explain it What happened is the multiple people who had tried to bring it back

03:33:21.600 --> 03:33:26.080
Uh, we just ran out of money And as long as we didn't run out of money then we'd be fine

03:33:26.160 --> 03:33:29.920
But what we told the city was well in order for us to not run out of money

03:33:30.240 --> 03:33:33.280
We would have to liquidate all of our existing real estate assets

03:33:33.840 --> 03:33:36.960
Put them into the acquisition and renovation costs of this thing

03:33:36.960 --> 03:33:40.720
Which means we'd need somewhere to operate So we'd have to do part of it

03:33:40.720 --> 03:33:44.640
Get a temporary use permit to operate out of part of it and then do the rest of it

03:33:44.880 --> 03:33:48.160
And the way the cities like you to do these things and I understand why I get it

03:33:48.320 --> 03:33:51.040
But the way they like you to do these things is they like you to finish the whole thing

03:33:51.840 --> 03:33:56.320
And then be moving ready from like a safety and liability and all those other things standpoint

03:33:56.400 --> 03:34:01.440
I understand it, but it just wasn't the economics were not going to work for us. Yeah

03:34:02.320 --> 03:34:06.240
It would have been pretty cool though. It would have been pretty cool It was pretty sick

03:34:06.240 --> 03:34:10.800
And there was a lot of stuff that like if I remember correctly the parking could have legitimately been separated

03:34:11.120 --> 03:34:17.120
Yeah, yeah, because there was underground and surface so the underground could have been staff and could have gone straight into the back elevator for safety

03:34:17.200 --> 03:34:21.440
Yeah, and security and then the the surface parking could have been for guests like it was actually like

03:34:22.000 --> 03:34:25.280
Could have worked separating the upstairs was actually like a reasonable thing as well

03:34:25.360 --> 03:34:30.720
Like it was it was yeah, there was a like a genuinely good spot to do things like

03:34:31.280 --> 03:34:34.960
Uh, the production stuff way and show all those types of things like it was

03:34:36.000 --> 03:34:39.520
It was all right. It's just no wonder. It's sat vacant this whole time

03:34:40.000 --> 03:34:43.840
Someone needs the money to do the entire thing all in one shot. It's so much. There's someone's working on it now

03:34:44.000 --> 03:34:49.200
Oh, really? Yeah, I drove past it today because I got detoured. There was a road closure. Hopefully they'll be more successful than the rest

03:34:49.360 --> 03:34:53.360
Yeah, I hope so too um

03:34:53.360 --> 03:34:56.640
Would have been pretty cool though. I would have totally wanted to paint it pink again

03:34:57.520 --> 03:35:02.480
Because it's white now. It's called the pink palace. Come on man. Get it together. It's gotta be pink. It's gotta be pink

03:35:02.640 --> 03:35:06.080
It's gotta be pink um

03:35:06.720 --> 03:35:12.960
All right, what else what else we got is there anything else we're supposed to talk about uh handheld wars heating up um

03:35:13.680 --> 03:35:18.080
I don't really think I need to talk about that. Uh, yeah, there's the new Lenovo devices

03:35:18.400 --> 03:35:28.720
I think the big one is that valve Is uh, it's going to be working with Lenovo to ship a uh, esteem os legion go. It's super cool. Yeah, that's that's super cool

03:35:29.120 --> 03:35:33.680
Very exciting Um meta has ditched third party fact checking

03:35:34.160 --> 03:35:39.920
CEO mark zuckerberg announced a major shift in meta's approach to moderation saying the company will suspend its fact checking program

03:35:40.000 --> 03:35:45.200
In favor of a twitter style community notes model on facebook instagram and thread starting in the us

03:35:45.600 --> 03:35:50.320
He explains that the existing moderation systems have resulted in too many mistakes and too much censorship

03:35:50.960 --> 03:35:56.400
Their new chief global affairs officer joe kaplan explained in a blog post that just like they do on twitter community notes

03:35:56.480 --> 03:36:01.200
Will require agreement between people with a range of perspectives to help prevent biased ratings

03:36:01.760 --> 03:36:06.560
Yeah, community notes is working really great over on twitter. So that's cool

03:36:06.880 --> 03:36:13.520
Uh zuckerberg said it was time to get back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes to simplify their policies and restore free expression

03:36:13.520 --> 03:36:17.920
on their platforms meta also plans to make certain content morning labels less prominent

03:36:18.240 --> 03:36:23.360
And repurpose automated filters to focus on illegal and high severity violations including terrorism

03:36:23.920 --> 03:36:31.360
Child sexual exploitation drugs fraud and scams For other less severe types of policy violations meta will rely more on users making manual reports

03:36:31.680 --> 03:36:39.920
But the bar for removing content will be much higher. Yes, because meta was already a paragon of high quality not

03:36:40.720 --> 03:36:47.600
um of high quality factual Content and so leaving that to the users is going to work so well

03:36:48.480 --> 03:36:53.840
um Cool, uh, good job facebook

03:36:54.720 --> 03:37:04.080
I mean meta uh, finally We missed this in our coverage of the amazon tv recently. So fortunately, we weren't recommending buying it

03:37:04.240 --> 03:37:12.240
So it doesn't really change our conclusion But we did not notice because we used plex for our media playback

03:37:12.880 --> 03:37:14.880
That the amazon tv

03:37:16.000 --> 03:37:23.680
Can automatically unmute itself during commercials to make sure that the user hears the commercials

03:37:23.920 --> 03:37:29.680
i'm not sure that this is uh 100 legit. I think the yeah, it goes into it down here

03:37:30.240 --> 03:37:36.240
um Oh, however, i'm doubtful that this isn't just a bug as i was able to find lots of form posts about people who had issues with

03:37:36.240 --> 03:37:40.320
Fire tv devices that unmute themselves. Oh in some situations. Okay, so maybe it's fine

03:37:40.960 --> 03:37:44.560
It just seems like it just unmutes itself discussion question

03:37:44.880 --> 03:37:50.720
Do you remember the 2009 sony patent where users had to shout the name of a featured brand to end an ad?

03:37:51.280 --> 03:37:54.560
Or the meta patent for eye and face tracking to make sure you're watching an ad

03:37:54.880 --> 03:37:58.640
How far do you think companies will actually go to get us to watch commercials and will it work?

03:37:58.960 --> 03:38:01.520
I think they will go as far as they need to go

03:38:02.160 --> 03:38:05.120
To make it so that there's a value to their advertising partners

03:38:06.240 --> 03:38:12.000
And that's it Because the more we ignore something the more they escalate

03:38:12.880 --> 03:38:19.520
Because at the end of the day what pays for all this stuff is advertising and nobody pays for advertising that nobody's watching

03:38:20.480 --> 03:38:24.880
That's just math pays for all what stuff though the content

03:38:24.880 --> 03:38:29.920
What content well any content you bought the tv. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm just talking in general

03:38:30.640 --> 03:38:37.120
Okay, yeah, i'm just talking about advertising in general not specifically like a tv itself that would do that ads being served by

03:38:37.360 --> 03:38:47.280
Companies that sold you hardware is just No, no, no. Yeah, i'm i'm talking about i'm just talking about the the the advertising giants the google's the methods of the world

03:38:48.080 --> 03:38:51.920
Basically, how far will they go they'll go as far until you actually watch it that that's it

03:38:53.760 --> 03:38:59.600
And nothing other than as far as until enough people consume it that it's economical to run their platforms

03:39:00.160 --> 03:39:06.160
Will not be viable so they will keep pushing the envelope until it is viable. That's that's all there is to it

03:39:07.360 --> 03:39:10.960
You can argue about it. You can be mad about it. You can kind of do whatever but math is math

03:39:11.360 --> 03:39:16.960
um And if they can't run the platform profitably then they will either ratchet it up until they can

03:39:17.440 --> 03:39:20.880
Or they will shut it down. Those are those are the only two outcomes

03:39:22.320 --> 03:39:24.320
Or just keep looting

03:39:25.600 --> 03:39:28.880
There's one thing sammy wants us to do oh

03:39:29.440 --> 03:39:33.920
Which is a Floatplane walkthrough of oh that you made a site

03:39:34.720 --> 03:39:39.680
No, something else. Okay. That was not it. There is a new beta site though. How did you even know about that?

03:39:40.000 --> 03:39:44.640
I saw people talking about it. Oh, wow Um found out that nobody mentioned it to me

03:39:45.360 --> 03:39:49.920
New beta layout. Let's go. Yeah, there's different behaviors and stuff now too

03:39:50.880 --> 03:39:54.960
That's actually kind of the main thing. Let's go. Yeah, he wants us to watch that one with me

03:39:55.760 --> 03:39:59.840
Watch the whole thing is 24 minutes long. He wants to go to one minute and 20 seconds. Oh, okay

03:39:59.840 --> 03:40:03.760
There's a few different timestamps. Do you want audio? Yeah, I probably should have prepped

03:40:04.640 --> 03:40:09.680
Uh Linus I'm ready laptops. That's the thing. Oh wait. Hold on

03:40:10.960 --> 03:40:15.920
Uh, I might have another I might have another tab open that's playing audio. Are you sure? Yep. Oh, cool

03:40:16.640 --> 03:40:22.720
Uh, good job Linus should work. Yeah, if you if you notice the sidebar is completely gone now. Hmm. This is actually sick

03:40:24.880 --> 03:40:28.080
No, I can't my right shoulder if actually doesn't work

03:40:28.960 --> 03:40:34.640
You can bat can't you Okay, so now now jump to 220. So pause and jump to 220

03:40:35.520 --> 03:40:38.080
Okay, so okay, and then pause when you jump there

03:40:39.040 --> 03:40:43.840
So it's a hundred thousand dollar robot that basically you dump a bunch of baseballs in

03:40:44.240 --> 03:40:48.640
And then there's a little rubber ARM that comes out of it that holds the baseball and you hit it

03:40:48.800 --> 03:40:52.640
Like a rubber ARM goes down sort of yeah, so it's t-ball rubber ARM goes

03:40:52.720 --> 03:40:59.200
Yeah, rubber ARM goes down grabs another baseball comes back up and sammy went in to go batting and yeah

03:40:59.280 --> 03:41:01.280
Well, I'm sure hilarity ensued

03:41:04.880 --> 03:41:14.480
A hundred thousand dollar robot The water bottle came out of his backpack. This man whiffs so hard. I will say the robot seems completely fine. Oh

03:41:15.360 --> 03:41:17.920
Oh, dude. Oh, dude 146 feet

03:41:19.840 --> 03:41:24.400
Oh my god It must have bashed

03:41:29.520 --> 03:41:34.800
And then he can't he gets so squeamish from that that he can't do it properly again

03:41:34.960 --> 03:41:37.520
He doesn't even have his hands together. What is he even doing?

03:41:38.720 --> 03:41:46.480
Oh my gosh Uh, there's more time stands we can just leave it there, but there's more time stands. That was uh, that was actually a really fun video

03:41:47.040 --> 03:41:52.000
um, yep So Floatplane exclusive there guys, um

03:41:52.640 --> 03:42:00.080
LMG.gg slash Floatplane. We've uh, we've got four your 40 000 strong our Floatplane supporters out there

03:42:00.160 --> 03:42:03.920
We appreciate the heck out of you guys. Thank you very much. Yeah, and uh

03:42:05.120 --> 03:42:11.920
If you don't want to sign up for Floatplane for whatever reason you can also get access to exclusives through memberships on

03:42:12.720 --> 03:42:17.840
uh, youtube but you pay extra and honestly the content team sometimes forgets to

03:42:18.960 --> 03:42:20.960
Put stuff on there on time

03:42:22.080 --> 03:42:28.800
Yeah, we really we probably should don't really need to tidy that up. Yeah, like I'm gonna look now. I don't even

03:42:29.760 --> 03:42:32.240
Where do you even see the members only stuff? I'm trying to

03:42:33.040 --> 03:42:35.840
I'm trying to figure out how to do that

03:42:36.720 --> 03:42:40.320
uh I don't know

03:42:40.320 --> 03:42:45.680
I don't know where to find that your personal account. Are you a member? Yeah, members only videos are only up to evan week right now

03:42:46.160 --> 03:42:51.600
So sammy if you're watching right now, please, uh, they should really really really go up at the same time

03:42:52.160 --> 03:42:59.200
but Yes, the Floatplane Floatplane peeps are uh, you guys are kings. Okay. What else we got and queens

03:42:59.760 --> 03:43:03.120
Or whatever anything is fine. Fabies jacks

03:43:03.840 --> 03:43:06.800
aces Uh, I had another thing that I jotted down

03:43:07.120 --> 03:43:12.400
Um, are you doing any prep for wisdom teeth stuff? Have you figured out food?

03:43:13.200 --> 03:43:18.080
I'm gonna have my wonderful wife take care of me. Okay, she'll do a good job

03:43:18.080 --> 03:43:22.960
She will basically make food that I like and then put it in a blender the stuff they suggested for me

03:43:23.120 --> 03:43:28.080
We went and bought it just kind of blindly and then checked it out afterwards. It was just like super sugary

03:43:28.960 --> 03:43:30.960
protein enhanced milkshakes basically

03:43:32.320 --> 03:43:35.520
It's like what the heck I think Yvonne's planning to make like soup

03:43:36.160 --> 03:43:39.520
And just blend it nice, which I remember from last time being

03:43:40.400 --> 03:43:44.960
Awesome. Yeah. Yeah Yeah

03:43:44.960 --> 03:43:53.040
Okay, that's it After dark. Oh, it's after dark. I guess so. I don't think there's anything else. Is it after dark? Oh, the topics are done. Yeah

03:43:56.160 --> 03:44:01.680
Oh, no, I mean, I do think this is a bit I got sed and in my in my dms. I know a guy

03:44:04.000 --> 03:44:06.000
Oh my god

03:44:07.200 --> 03:44:12.000
Sent me this thing 2000 pound plus cargo nine-seater gulf stream transatlantic capable

03:44:12.640 --> 03:44:18.320
Let's go All right, we're going straight to stage three. Sorry saying it's for sale question mark

03:44:19.120 --> 03:44:23.120
What if you what if you know you can have it someone? What if you partner with someone that has a plane?

03:44:24.800 --> 03:44:27.760
Yeah, like Taylor especially you're basically besties. Yeah

03:44:28.240 --> 03:44:33.760
Between what because we have the same thickness of once once you get the same thing. I mean after ces you probably even more caked out

03:44:34.080 --> 03:44:36.080
All that walking, you know

03:44:37.920 --> 03:44:43.920
I did walk a lot I like I go out of my way to walk a lot like I'll finish the end of the day and then

03:44:45.040 --> 03:44:50.000
One day I walked like two and a half miles back to my hotel from wherever I ended up like

03:44:50.640 --> 03:44:55.200
I I walk when I'm in vegas because it's the only thing I'm doing and I have those travel days book ending it

03:44:55.200 --> 03:45:01.040
And then I just sit and do nothing so And I didn't hotel gym. I didn't pack enough stuff to bring gym clothes

03:45:01.120 --> 03:45:05.440
I'm not gonna pack a check luggage so that I can work out. I'm just not gonna do it

03:45:05.600 --> 03:45:09.600
I just work out Ideally my gym freaking closed at a

03:45:10.560 --> 03:45:13.360
7 p.m. So the one so you'll go gamble

03:45:13.760 --> 03:45:17.840
Yeah, as far as I could out one of them had a pool that closed at like five or something like that

03:45:17.840 --> 03:45:22.560
It's like also my hotel. I'm pretty sure. Um, I just went in the previous day's close

03:45:23.680 --> 03:45:28.240
And then was like whatever it is what it is. All right, that's not a bad hack. Yeah

03:45:30.320 --> 03:45:34.720
Linus you can afford gym clothes to throw away. I will never be able to afford to

03:45:35.520 --> 03:45:38.960
reconcile that with my world view. Yeah, don't do that

03:45:40.080 --> 03:45:42.080
Buy a buy a boat before you do that

03:45:43.280 --> 03:45:46.960
100% Get a train car so wasteful

03:45:47.360 --> 03:45:51.040
Oh, we got a sick a private train. We don't have it like there's no guys

03:45:51.200 --> 03:45:58.400
Goodwill is not a solution to that There is far more secondhand clothing than there is people to consume secondhand clothes

03:45:58.480 --> 03:46:05.760
Yeah, especially now because of the The like t mus and all that other stuff. Yep. Don't do it. Don't do it

03:46:06.720 --> 03:46:10.320
And then when your clothes run out or wear out you just turn them into

03:46:11.280 --> 03:46:20.640
What's up? Let's go Golf streamer here. We could look into setting up a tour of our engineering and manufacturing facilities. What is this in full plane chat?

03:46:20.880 --> 03:46:26.560
What? Do it dude. Shut up. Do it. I told you a partnership would do it

03:46:26.800 --> 03:46:31.200
This is luke's whole thing everybody around him's like nah, they won't and then you send him an email and they're like, okay

03:46:31.440 --> 03:46:36.080
Yeah, land plane. Let's go always. We'll use it as a demo plane to show our potential clients. Yeah

03:46:37.040 --> 03:46:39.840
This is one that built by Linus tech tips that you can also uh

03:46:42.160 --> 03:46:49.040
I Linus you undervalue yourself. I think seeing the golf stream engineering and manufacturing facilities would be super cool

03:46:49.200 --> 03:46:54.960
That sounds sick. I don't know that that video would actually perform particularly well for our audience. I think go

03:46:55.280 --> 03:47:00.080
No, no, no, no, no, you're going there to to set up a time to get a golf stream jet

03:47:00.480 --> 03:47:03.760
Customized. I wouldn't buy a new one though. I can't afford a new one. No, no, no

03:47:03.760 --> 03:47:07.760
You do want to theirs and it would be their marketing stunt and yours

03:47:07.920 --> 03:47:14.160
No, because then it has to be like to a level of polish that we wouldn't do like no, no, no, no, no, no, no

03:47:14.320 --> 03:47:19.120
You could these days. Yeah Especially with air, you know say so

03:47:19.600 --> 03:47:25.120
yeah The the ratio the ratio of

03:47:25.520 --> 03:47:31.200
amount of work to How much videos I need to get out of it to how you're gonna charter it

03:47:31.440 --> 03:47:35.200
There's a there's a bunch of factors here people is what I'm trying to say

03:47:35.600 --> 03:47:40.880
I don't know. I don't know if that's I don't know if the stars are gonna align for this one, but we'll see

03:47:41.520 --> 03:47:48.320
we'll see You guys are just gonna I can't explain every factor that goes into the decision of whether to make a video or not

03:47:48.560 --> 03:47:52.000
But what I can say is guys. I've been doing this for a while

03:47:53.280 --> 03:47:59.840
Trust me This may not make sense no matter how cool it seems on the surface. I'm just saying you just go you just go on your own

03:48:00.560 --> 03:48:04.400
Yeah, you know, I don't travel for pleasure. I'm already doing that one trip. You're not traveling for pleasure

03:48:04.400 --> 03:48:09.520
You're traveling for business because you're gonna start a chartered jet plan company

03:48:09.600 --> 03:48:16.800
No, I'm not talking about like writing off the travel expense Dan I'm talking about like it's just a waste of time like I can't go do that like it doesn't make any sense

03:48:17.600 --> 03:48:22.880
But no, it's that it's a waste of his time. You can work on the jet plane. Okay. Can I mute him?

03:48:23.120 --> 03:48:25.680
Is that an option? Yes, I can look at that done found it

03:48:29.600 --> 03:48:34.080
All right, um, I would go I know but that's not that I'll go do it

03:48:35.920 --> 03:48:39.840
I'll do you also have a luke mute button. You're just going on vacation then and that's fine

03:48:39.840 --> 03:48:45.440
You can do whatever you want on vacation 100 take vacation time. Yeah, I'm just I'm just gonna go after jimmy fallon

03:48:46.960 --> 03:48:54.720
Um, okay. Anyway Okay, what's next? Merchant messages. Yeah, hit me. The chief reach out somehow. Let's just get this over with

03:48:55.280 --> 03:48:59.040
For Linus kills us both. I'll get home. It's been a long week. I'm so tired

03:48:59.280 --> 03:49:03.200
Good evening Linus luke and Dan the man. This is mainly for luke. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Oh god

03:49:03.440 --> 03:49:06.880
Furfino says this is a bad idea, but touring dbrand isn't

03:49:07.760 --> 03:49:11.040
Okay dbrand is a long-term partner

03:49:12.000 --> 03:49:17.920
Okay, that has a long history of like sponsorships and memeing back and forth

03:49:18.400 --> 03:49:24.720
A high degree of venn diagram overlap of awareness and relatability to our audience people

03:49:25.360 --> 03:49:32.720
Can't afford a gulf stream jet Call them port but our average viewer can't afford a sticker to put on their phone

03:49:33.360 --> 03:49:42.000
Okay Also, it was to announce a collaborative product that this may surprise you but we financially benefited from

03:49:42.880 --> 03:49:49.200
Wow big reveal. Um, yes, the dbrand tour made a lot of sense

03:49:50.800 --> 03:49:55.680
The jet factory doesn't necessarily make sense. I completely agree. I think it would do

03:49:56.800 --> 03:50:01.760
Acceptably, but it would be weird. You get 900,000 views and there'd be a lot of people that are like

03:50:03.040 --> 03:50:10.800
Yeah, 100% like it This is the WAN Show audience. You guys no offense yet ain't that discerning

03:50:10.960 --> 03:50:14.400
However, we tell you guys hey, we have an idea and you're like do it

03:50:15.440 --> 03:50:22.080
And we love that about you. We appreciate your enthusiasm and your support. It's great. That is very true. But it's very useful sometimes

03:50:22.800 --> 03:50:27.360
but We have to when we make a video for the main channel

03:50:28.080 --> 03:50:31.040
It has to make sense for all the investment that we put it

03:50:31.680 --> 03:50:35.840
Every video costs a ton of money to make. Yeah, believe it or not

03:50:35.920 --> 03:50:40.720
And opportunity cost both in terms of real money and in terms of the cost of what we could have made in that time

03:50:40.960 --> 03:50:44.800
That would have paid our staff and paid our costs all of that being said

03:50:46.800 --> 03:50:50.640
Whatever we do though, I don't know the rv the boat the plane whatever

03:50:51.120 --> 03:50:58.640
We gotta D brand's got to skin it somehow the boat gets complicated. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. We'll see but something

03:50:58.720 --> 03:51:02.320
Exxie raviour says the winers are ruining it for the rest of us. It's not even that

03:51:02.720 --> 03:51:07.120
It's that it's just isn't appealing to most people most people

03:51:07.520 --> 03:51:11.280
Don't care about some jet that some rich a**hole is

03:51:12.160 --> 03:51:15.520
Briding around in a lot of those videos get crazy views on youtube

03:51:15.600 --> 03:51:21.920
But it's usually on channels that are more tuned for that type of content lifestyles of the rich and famous style content

03:51:22.000 --> 03:51:24.240
And that's not our audience our audience is like

03:51:26.160 --> 03:51:30.720
Well, why would you pay nine dollars a month for a subscription when you can just pirate it?

03:51:31.360 --> 03:51:37.520
Fake frames fake frames. It's it's a really really different audience and and it's an audience that

03:51:38.160 --> 03:51:41.760
It's no accident that these two gentlemen built

03:51:43.760 --> 03:51:46.960
Yeah, right. No. Yeah, I don't think the plane video is a good idea

03:51:46.960 --> 03:51:55.440
So there's a reason that our audience would relate way more to us finding some like clap trapped out boat

03:51:55.520 --> 03:52:00.480
Yes, and like teching it out and turning it into something like a viable side hustle

03:52:00.720 --> 03:52:06.240
The joy is the the struggle and the modification and and the jankiness. Yes. Yeah. Yeah the journey

03:52:06.480 --> 03:52:12.400
Yeah, that part would be fun if I just did some tour of some rich f***ing guys tech f***ing boat

03:52:13.120 --> 03:52:17.920
Yeah, we'd have some people that would be into it and there'd be some audience that would come over from the other side

03:52:18.480 --> 03:52:22.720
But our like our our core audience that we that we build our content for

03:52:24.400 --> 03:52:31.120
Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure Like they're look how angry they are that NVIDIA wants two thousand dollars for a GPU

03:52:32.000 --> 03:52:38.640
Which is a lot of freaking money $2,000 like wouldn't even buy you freaking like

03:52:40.800 --> 03:52:44.160
Reaching altitude on this plane, you know even close

03:52:44.880 --> 03:52:52.160
Right like it's so power cycling it might be genuinely like yeah, so we've just got to we've just got to keep that perspective a little bit

03:52:52.240 --> 03:52:55.760
We just got to keep that perspective a little bit. All right. All right after dark

03:52:56.640 --> 03:52:59.680
Um, it's already after dark. Oh it is

03:53:00.560 --> 03:53:05.120
my bad Framework community is on fire now after the last mail

03:53:05.680 --> 03:53:10.720
They believe framework is going IPO over one joke line says no key

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You're gonna have to link me to that no key because I'm I'm I'm not sure what's going on over at framework right now

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Other than sending them some money and I waved at nerav in the line for the NVIDIA event

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And that was that was about it other than like that and the the coverage we've done

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I don't pay that actually close attention to them

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Does it matter if they go IPO? Well, I think that there is

03:53:33.360 --> 03:53:37.440
A certain perception a well-earned perception that once you go IPO

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You are beholden to shareholders who want nothing other than money

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Nothing other than a return and you have a fiduciary responsibility to provide them that return

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And so they're worried the repairability and stuff. They're worried that they could lose their path

03:53:50.960 --> 03:53:56.000
Um, so anyway here clarifying comment from nerav regarding the IPO text

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Um Okay, many most startups get caught up in the fundraiser status game in a way that detracts from their mission

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We don't fundraising is a tool we use when it advances our mission and which we don't use when it doesn't

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Part of being conservative about this is that the founding team still has both voting share and board control five years in

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Which is pretty unusual as this is true There is no pre-ordained outcome for framework as a company and one jokey sentence in a multi-page manifesto doesn't change that

03:54:20.400 --> 03:54:25.120
Our focus is on winning at our mission, which the rest of the several pages of the manifesto is about

03:54:25.440 --> 03:54:31.520
Also, the takeover the world part isn't a joke All right, so there you go. So how should this be interpreted? Are they planning an IPO or not?

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I I I don't think based on what I've seen

03:54:37.920 --> 03:54:42.160
So far to scale your company past a certain point

03:54:42.160 --> 03:54:48.240
You pretty much have to take on funding and that's one of the reasons that I don't know that Linus media group bank

03:54:48.240 --> 03:54:50.480
will ever scale beyond a certain point because

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If you want to go parabolic, which is what it takes to be a you know billion dollar company

03:54:57.920 --> 03:55:03.600
um You can't do it just just taking your profits and putting it back in the numbers just don't work

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So if they want to scale in a big way, they want to tackle printers and they want to tackle

03:55:09.600 --> 03:55:13.840
I don't know who whatever other sort of locked down they want to tackle

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You know TVs and the you know stealing your data and monitoring you-ness of TVs and they want to tackle this

03:55:19.680 --> 03:55:23.280
They want to tackle that they'll they'll need they'll need funding. They've taken investment already

03:55:23.600 --> 03:55:28.080
They took investment from people from people who weren't me from people who may not even care as much about the mission

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But maybe they do but they took investment and they've managed to stay true to it so far. So what I hope is if they did that

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um They if they did take money through

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Through an initial public offering that they would still stay true to their mission

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I haven't seen an indication that they won't but nothing's impossible and

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You know I stand by what I said before which is if I

03:55:52.960 --> 03:56:00.720
um You know if I feel they have they have betrayed their mission then I'm out and I will break up with them publicly

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Yep Apparently it's around three quarters of the way through the uh

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Through the page here. So here's a blog five years of framework

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Control f world. Here we go. Okay. There you go. Here's the plan

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2020 x ipo take over the world note that this timeline is deliberately aggressive and makes a few assumptions and

03:56:24.320 --> 03:56:27.840
Product risks, etc. Yeah. Oh, it's cool that they're being really open about this at least

03:56:29.520 --> 03:56:31.520
This is actually surprisingly comprehensive

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Very cool Anyway worth checking out. Um, but I am have valve disagrees valve

03:56:43.280 --> 03:56:47.120
Is a unicorn valve is a is the exception that proves the rule

03:56:49.200 --> 03:56:51.760
Valve literally prints money for a living they uh

03:56:53.680 --> 03:56:55.840
Just because valve does it doesn't mean anyone else can do it

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And framework is in a physical goods business which it

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Just has physical limitations on scale things take time

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Um, things have to move around

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All right All right, here we go Good evening Linus luke and tender man. This is mainly for luke

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I am in school for a bs in network security and administration

03:57:20.320 --> 03:57:23.600
Question is what position should I be looking for going to be a new career?

03:57:24.640 --> 03:57:29.440
I don't know I feel like we might have to dial back the career advice merge messages just because

03:57:29.920 --> 03:57:34.800
The reality of it is that luke and I only know so much and have only worked at so many companies

03:57:37.440 --> 03:57:42.560
I've had one career level job Yeah, all right two. Yeah

03:57:44.080 --> 03:57:50.960
We do get maybe not the greatest people to talk I know we get a lot of interest from merge messages in career advice

03:57:51.120 --> 03:57:56.080
I know but it's tough out there right now. So I get it and we can tell people, you know, some some

03:57:56.640 --> 03:58:02.720
You know things that we've learned Succeeding in the workplace like that's something we've done even though we haven't had that many positions. I feel like we've

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Done well at them and and we are passionate about it and you know, we work hard and everything but

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There's a limit to kind of how much we can address and like

03:58:13.440 --> 03:58:16.160
Man, I'm in school. What position should I go for like dude?

03:58:17.280 --> 03:58:20.640
The one you can the world moves so fast and changes so fast

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That even if we give you advice and even if it is the right advice today, it might not be the right advice by the time you graduate

03:58:27.040 --> 03:58:29.040
so it's

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I can tell you that network security ain't going away anytime soon. Yeah

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But I also don't know what the impact of

03:58:39.440 --> 03:58:44.160
And when I say the impact of AI, I don't even mean necessarily the impact of the AI getting a lot better

03:58:44.160 --> 03:58:48.000
I mean the impact of workplaces cutting back on human resources because of it

03:58:48.640 --> 03:58:53.600
I don't know what that's going to look like Yeah

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All right, ahoy the one you can is what I'll say. Yeah, ahoy l plus l

03:58:59.120 --> 03:59:02.480
I've been considering an rtx 59 need to save on my heating bill

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Is there any viability to this trying to convince girlfriend? It's a solid investment

03:59:07.600 --> 03:59:12.080
Well, you better hope she doesn't watch wanshow because that's a stupid fucking investment. Yeah, what?

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with that said with that said if

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you are using resistive heating already

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Then during the winter months it legitimately won't cost you any more

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To heat your house with a 5090 than it would to heat it with a resistive heater

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However, if you're using almost literally any other form of heating

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So if you're using a heat pump if you're using a um

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Like a gas boiler almost literally anything else

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You already have a way more efficient Heater um, so

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Yeah Um, sorry. I really hope for your sake that your girlfriend doesn't watch wanshow and I hope you don't feel bad

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um about me, you know Saying your idea is bad and then clip this part. Yeah, that'll work

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Great idea Hi, l ld get one for each of you

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And then soon it'll be two when she breaks up with you. Hi l ld Linus for

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Uh, do you have any advice for save a lot of money not having a girlfriend too bad too bad

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So then you could Could justify itself that way you could generate one you could you could like yeah, if you had a 5090

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Yeah, you could heat up your your macaroni for one on it

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Sad sad little man

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Oh, sorry I'm projecting Hi, l ld Linus, uh, do you have any advice for then Bob says actually just keep a bunch of goats in your home for the body

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Then you wouldn't have to worry about a girlfriend either

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But you'd have your goat

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Okay, sorry. Yeah, I'll let you finish reading down. It's still cameras

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Apartments now

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What is actually more work having a girlfriend or having a goat in your apartment

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Probably not the goat

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The girl smells a lot better though, I'm way better. Yeah, only if you don't take care of the goat. Yeah

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Okay, um, okay

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Go ahead Dan. All right, it's not gonna get better Linus, uh, do you have any advice for vasectomy recovery?

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I've got mine scheduled in 11 days and have just been told rest and tight undis. Yeah, don't forget the cool

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Um, you know the the ice bag the ice chip bag is uh is a plus don't go to work and host the WAN Show that day

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I was like out and about doing stuff go home and rest and and don't get recognized by your doctor

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That's that was such a funny story. Oh man

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I Next up, okay, so I thought we're pausing for effect

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Uh, hi LDL. What are your thoughts on giving kids apple watches instead of phones to stay connected while limiting access to social media

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Is it smart or just a fool errand? Yeah, screwdrivers. Um, does it limit access?

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Yeah, I mean it makes it a little less convenient. Um, but like

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Yeah, I mean I guess apple watch has it doesn't apple watch have to be paired to a phone even when it has a cellular connection though

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No idea I thought so like I um, I don't I think the setup process like requires you to connect it to a phone

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I mean if like they just don't have access to the phone I mean realistically, there's better parental tools for limiting time in apps. Anyway, I would I would probably go that route personally

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Apparently no not anymore. Oh wait, people are saying yes for setup kid mode

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Uh, yeah, I mean a watch

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I mean, it's a really expensive just like text only device

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Can you just like get an old crappy phone and then just set up parental controls on it?

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I'd probably go that route Thousand bucks for something that they're just going to bang into every single surface on the planet of the earth

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They're pretty durable actually. I've got a not even like the latest one and it's uh, it's got some scratches on it. Okay

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I think the restricted old crappy phone is the way to go

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You can buy them pretty cheap sometimes Hi DLM Linus, which 59 you're planning on getting as cool as the founder's card is

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It's hard for me to ignore the benefits of having a card from a partner for better cooling or better performance

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I mean, I I'm gonna go with whatever's got a block for it because I'm gonna be water cooling mine and heating my pool with it

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So I'm really one percent problem. I'm very interested

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In the thermals of that card. I bet they're really good

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Yeah, the pass-through design is pretty stupid in my opinion. I can't reveal anything now

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What stupid? Yeah, it's like one of the worst designs I've ever seen. Why?

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No, I'm just trying to piss you off because nicole said that you loved it and wanted me to review

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Okay, well, it's because you're objectively wrong because it's amazing. It's a marvel of engineering. I think it's cool

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It's tiny the angle vents on the side that make it so that the the hot air doesn't come back around genius

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I haven't tested anything and I didn't have 10 editors day. So I don't know anything

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But I will speculate that it's very good. I just I just find it interesting that the

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The board partner cards are so enormous. Why aren't they doing that? They're all huge. They're 59

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Like a two slot because it's so expensive to build that card

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And so in vidya because they have their own margins

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Like basically they can they can put all of the board partners margin and build cost into their own build cost

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And sell it at the same price fancy really so it's just like a flex

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That's it. That's all there is to it. So You're thinking the enormous adam board partner cards are

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Compensating for the effectiveness of the dual pass through cooler. Yeah. Yeah, and also just overbuilt because it's become

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Like a who can build the biggest coolest running card $2,000 card. So at this point it's an e-peen thing anyways

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Yeah, and like nobody plugs anything into their PCIe slots anymore. Anyway, so you only really cares. Yeah, if you have an atx motherboard

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Yeah Because I don't give you any

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Uh, okay, how long was the mod mat in development for?

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Oh, wow A long time because

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I'm trying to think when did we like Mod that I can navigate the partnership thing too, right? Yeah. Yeah

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That takes time

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Mod mat, I mean how far back would have to go? Yeah, bixby saying basically each one of the fins is custom and would require its own stamp die. Yeah, they like

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They concave. Oh my god, they are they concave each side

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To like balance out the fan pressure That cooler is genuinely insane. Is it one of the first ones I've ever thought like I want to founders for this one

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The second they announced during the keynote that it was dual pass through my brain exploded

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I was I was squinting. What are you doing? I'm trying to figure out if this is a three slot card

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and then Oh, no, hold on. That's that's not the 50 70 or the 50 80. That's the 50 90 is a dual slot

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What the hell whose ifa one says a partnership with who Linus

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Uh with mod right who was the owner of frozen CPU. This is really funny. This is an ancient email from 2013

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I don't you get a lot of haters on your channel. Not usually they seem to really hate the mod mat

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It's weird because I thought it was kind of cool. So this is when I started thinking the mod mat was kind of cool

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So that was 12 years ago. Um as for when we actually started working on ours, uh, let me see

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It's like nothing has changed. Yeah

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um mod mat

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Here's a very Hold on. I'm going to screenshot this so that I can um

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Whoops, I'm going to screenshot this so that I can mask a couple of things really quick

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But the earliest email that I can find about it is, uh

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2022

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Let me uh, let me just get a get a big black marker here

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Uh Okay

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Come on maximize you butt. Okay, there we go. And

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And

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Okay, yeah, this seems to be

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Um, this seems to be sanitized Okay, there so, uh

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Grounding plane that has flexible attach point second carabiner style to the natural rubber built in magnetic screw retention

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Solar section heat resistant spot bumping this up officially moving forward with mod right

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We should do initial discussion Wednesday during merch meeting. So that's september 2022

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was when we uh, we pressed go

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So a while, I mean we Sort of almost famously at this point take a very long time

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to to do stuff

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um But we we make sure that when we do it, we do it right

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Uh, hey dll. How do you personally?

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Remotivate yourself when you start to feel lost in what you previously enjoyed for work

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Tell yourself you have no choice because you're in a lot of debt and if you don't keep working

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You'll never hope to afford to be out of debt motivation falters. You have to find something else

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Motivation is good for starting. It's not good for continuing. Do not ever rely on motivation for anything. Yeah

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Hey lld question for both after all these years. What has been the most satisfying aspect of your job?

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It's been the most surprising Um, I think the most satisfying is when we're able to actually affect real change

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um, whether that's in, you know

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Brand marketing or product design or

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Um, or on our viewers like it's it's really cool when when people come up and you know, tell me

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Hey, I just finished my program and I got started in

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You know in in it because of enjoying your videos when I was a kid like that's

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I think that's the most deeply satisfying

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part of the job, um, but if I was to say

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Um, if I was to talk about the most deeply satisfying part of the company

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I'd say watching people hit milestones is the most satisfying part

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So, you know having people Apply for a mortgage and have a bank approve their mortgage because they work at Linus media group, Inc

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Floatplane, Inc Creator warehouse, Inc

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That's pretty cool The fact that we're like a real company and that you know a financial institution will say

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Oh, yeah, you work at a real company and get you know real wages and can

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Really put a down payment on this and be expected to pay your monthly mortgage payments. That's uh,

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It's a deeper level of validation than just someone thinking you're pretty cool and being willing to work with you and take

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Take a risk on you. It's like, uh, it's like a no. This is real. This is like this is solid now

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You know seeing people start a family knowing that their kid's not gonna starve because well, yeah, it's fine. I work at

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Linus media group I work at creator warehouse. I'd say I'd say there there can't really be anything more

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Satisfying than that. Yeah

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Yeah, I think for me personally it's the

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I guess the like Trust building and long-term nature of working with people like having people on my team

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Like I don't know Practically anyone currently on the Floatplane team for example

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Just like I've been working with these people for ever at this point. Um, I just think that's really cool

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Um building those long-term relationships. Yeah

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I know like it's a it's a big thing in the software development industry for people to stay in a company for like three years max

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often like one to two um

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And it's cool that we have a team where that's like not really the

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the mo Despite it being

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Not common Um and kind of brutal sometimes they work hard. Yeah. Yeah to be honest and often like thanklessly in the background on things that

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Aren't really that visible on the site

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Yeah, like people some people have pointed out that the the beta site right now. They're like, oh, it's not like that different

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It's like, yeah Uh In regards to like some of the stuff that you see. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on

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There's actually a ton of stuff going on a lot of it's like cooking right now. Like you can't see it all quite yet, but

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um Yeah, anyways, um, and the surprising part is that

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I was very resistant to us growing to this scale

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And I still think there's some parts of it that kind of suck

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But there's more things that are good about it that I didn't see coming. I think things have been relatively

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I I think the waters have been relatively smooth very recently. Yes. Um

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I do agree Give me time though

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Soon I'll have a boat And someone will hate that

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Yeah, it'll be good. Yeah Hi DLL while they hate on fortnight. It's free and I play with my nephews and grand nephews and buy them team skins

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This makes it funner for everyone, particularly my grand nephews. Um, I think it's the

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It was a very significant mark of a very significant change in gaming

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Yeah, so I think it's less hating fortnight and more hating what it represents. I had no idea how good my son is at it

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He like wins fairly regularly I'm not too surprised. Oh, okay

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All right, we gotta play some uh, we gotta we gotta play some FPS together again because he's gotten

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I was watching him play the other day if he's winning in fortnight. Yeah, probably

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I was like, yeah, we should we should play it. He wasn't playing ranked in that one, but like

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Still that's probably still crazy. He won. Yeah. Yeah. I was just like it was like his

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Second match of this season or something. Is it still is it still 100 players? Yeah. Yeah, so that's nuts

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Yeah, like I just like watched him casually just eliminate other human players. I'm like, yo, is that a human? He's like, yeah, I'm like

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And then someone was like spectating him after because they like I guess thought he was cheating or something

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But I was literally sitting watching him play. Cool. Yeah. Um, it's pretty sick

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Yeah, so we'll have to play some he's really like not that little

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I know anymore. The nickname really doesn't work that well anymore medium. Yeah medium man. Yeah

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Normal dude, he's been really enjoying the baddie center more than I hoped

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He's been playing more than me because I'm injured right now. I'm jealous

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That's cool. Yeah, he plays like at least every other day more like two or three days

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I'm just like, okay. Yeah, I wish I could play that much That's pretty sick. Yeah, because like that was uh, that was like a huge time investment

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For me and money investment in like having badminton be something that we could like

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Bond over as adults and do more excessively. You've probably heard me talking about for over a decade

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Wanting to play father-son tournaments. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, of course like this has been

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a machination of mine Since like this child was born through absolute sheer force. I will make this thing happen

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I uh, well, I knew I couldn't make it happen. I don't mean in regards to his desire to be a player

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I mean in regards to like there will be a badminton center. It will be near it will be accessible those types of things

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Yeah, you can't like you can't force someone to be into something. Yeah, right

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But what you can do is you can put it in front of them and you can incentivize it and you can create positive experiences and memories around it and

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And and hope for the best. Yep. I don't know if the daughters will get into it

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But hey, at least I got at least I got one one out of three ain't bad one or three isn't zero to three

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And it's not like I don't have things that I can bond with the daughters over as well

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And so, you know, for me, it's like childhood is is temporary

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Uh, and well, everything's temporary, but but the child part is very temporary. It's fleeting even and you know, if we

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We can't really call it a success unless we can have

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Real adult relationships with these people, right? They're not kids. They're people and so it's been

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Playing a long game Yeah, yeah, yeah, at least now you have a very obvious favorite favorite child

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Well, no The badminton center is ultimately for lioness. I actually don't an individual child's a lot of people like are very clearly like

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I don't have a favorite. Sorry Yeah, but I I don't they are each

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Oddly unique and utterly incredible. I will externally say that does seem true through observation

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Like they're all great. Maybe part of it is just like I have all great kids

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Like maybe some people have kids that are just like assholes. We when when when was this?

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What day was that? after last WAN Show

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I went over to your place and you hadn't seen them in a while for some reason

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Um, because I had been away and the One I think and they were too or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, the greeting you got

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Oh, isn't it heartwarming? That's pretty good there's

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There's people who Think that having kids isn't the most fulfilling thing you'll ever do and then there's people who have kids

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There's there's nothing Absolutely

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Nothing like it. There's nothing else that you can and I'm sorry if this is like a really tough

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Um thing to hear but there's absolutely nothing that's even close

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I think there are people that have kids that definitely don't agree and that's fair enough

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um But in general, I think you're you're yeah, but out of everything that I have ever

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Accomplished or ever experienced Um, it's an order of magnitude

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Off nothing else is even on the same planet

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Up next yep Hey DLL looking forward to the couch potato hoodie question for Linus with a new 74 watt hour battery mod for the rog ally

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What are your thoughts on taking an og ally and upgrading versus ally x?

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Ooh 74 watt hour battery mod. That's pretty cool. Um

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I mean, it depends how much you're spending on it if you already have an og ally

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Right, then yeah, then yeah, but I absolutely wouldn't go buy an og ally

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Because there's other benefits of the newer one like it natively supports full-size ssds

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Although the og one can be modified as well for that. Um, what what batteries in there right now?

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Oh, I think it's only 40 you watt hours or 40 45

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Don't don't quote me on that. I don't actually I don't actually see it on here

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Uh But yeah, I can't remember I think it's around 40 45 watt hours or something like that

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So that that's a substantial upgrade 40. I would rather I'd rather have an ally x apparently ally x has issues

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Some people are saying oh ally og has issues. Yeah the sd card issue. I mean it didn't impact me

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Um, so far my ally is doing great and I'm super happy with it

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That's the main reason I haven't bothered to upgrade because I just don't even need to the one

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I'll be taking on falon though is ally ally x

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um I mean, I'm sure you know ASUS would appreciate us showing their latest rather than

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Even if this is what I daily drive and I wanted it to be as wow factor for him as possible

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And there's no actual released devices yet with z2 extreme, which I would have rather taken but yeah

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anyway Could you get an unreleased one?

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If you're like hey, hey, hey, it's for this thing. Oh, there's no time possibly but yeah, there's no time

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I'm going to be I'm going to be on the show

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Less than 72 hours from now like and it's a weekend right after c. Yes, everyone's like done right

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We've got to be somewhat even get your weekend. Are you flying on monday? No, I'm flying sunday. Yeah

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I'm doing the red eye

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Linus how long until uh, sorry. Yeah, how long until and where do your tough socks wear out?

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And if I order tough socks now, will they last me until the ldt socks are released? Oh my darn tough socks

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um They they usually fail in the ball of the foot for me because uh badminton

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So because of the friction of sliding when I lunge

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Uh, they they lasted me like a solid couple years before they wore out

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Which is doesn't sound like that much maybe if you don't if you're not as hard on your socks as I am

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I'm real hard on my socks. That is a frickin long time. Um

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Maybe even three years I think they probably started failing within a couple years

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But I still have ones from my initial order that are still going today

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So they're they're really impressive. Uh, if you order them now, I'd be very surprised if they wear out before ldt socks are released

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Land fluke and cisness What is the most expensive product you've ever seen at ces? Oh, I mean some of the huge tv's like obviously like some of those are

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Like it's like some of the some of the like demo systems are like one of a kind in the entire world

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I remember I think it was samsung had this cool one that would like

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Had motorized arms on the back that would take it and like rearrange it into different aspect ratios

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Like you can't even put a price tag on some of the stuff that they have at these shows They're like bespoke hand-built things. I don't even know what blows my mind every time is the cost of the booths themselves

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And they're just gonna throw it away dude. It's crazy. They're just gonna completely throw it in the garbage

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It's wild some of them are effectively building multi-story homes. Yeah. Oh like semen's was insane

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They have doors. They have stairs. It had offices with like plants and benches and tables in a kitchen

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above hardwood floors like it's

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It's honestly wild Like like actual. Yeah, I don't know. I was amazed one year. I asked someone

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I forget who it was and I was like, what did they do with like all the carpet? They're like throw it away

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Gone What it's all just trashed. Yeah, it's all just thrown away because it's not like the next convention that comes in

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Is going to want the same color carpet. So like Just just throw it away

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Yep, and it's one of those things where like I make my kids sort of recycling and everything but like

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In the grand scheme of things

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Sorting that can compared to

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Like commercial waste Yeah

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Yeah Where's the 2024 or 2025 sticker pack bonus? I don't know. That's a good question. We must have had a bunch left over

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Maybe soon

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And last one I got for you today. Oh de wilso nine says I work for semen's and we looked at storing the carpets

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It made no financial sense. Yeah, I get it. I get it. But yeah, so yeah, so they just yep cosmic remix. Yeah, they just throw it away

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Those booths they just they just throw them away Even the cost of transporting them like back to where these companies came from in some cases. It doesn't make any sense

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Some companies take a more pragmatic approach. Noctua for instance reuses the same Computex booth every year

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They just fold it up And unpack it and I love that. I respect that

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Yep Uh griffin says I work in construction in vegas

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The smooth of good materials that get thrown away in my shed is ridiculous

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Yeah, I don't know what smooth means in this context, but sure amount amount. It was auto correct or something. Okay

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Dear luke as Dan's direct report. Do you have any advice to get him to be less aggressive at curating these?

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Uh pro tip for liners don't eat solid food for two weeks. Even if they say you can after three days

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Uh, I think he's less aggressive with it because uh, what's the current runtime of the show?

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Uh, we're three hours and 50 seconds. Yep. Uh, so that's why

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We I think we're trying to not do the any advice to get him to be less aggressive

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Like you do you want me to make he wants you to curate more

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Oh is what I'm interpreting this as oh, yeah, no, I have I have time

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Yeah, but meanwhile I've got my way of asking when I'm going to be home So yeah, exactly, you know, it is what it is one hour five minutes over time the betterment of our sanity

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Yeah, he takes care of us. I try my Dan is to shield

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I try my best

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That's all I got. Yeah, I was just gonna say speaking of trying his best though, uh

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Earth to Linus we're done

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See you next week same bad time same bad channel Whoa, bye

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What the

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You