Oh, shoot. Did I start chewing something the second we went live to the floaters?
Nice. I should open things. What am I doing? Classic line.
I mean, like 45 minutes ago, but sure.
In fairness to you, my brain is no more functional 45 minutes after I've woken up, but whatever, I'm still gonna dunk on you.
Yeah. This delay is gonna be bad.
I don't know why it's so bad.
I might I'm honestly I'm pretty stoked. It's working at all. This is the the hotel Wi-Fi.
Doing this, I actually think yeah, but just like source for it. You sound retarded
Like delay like delayed like your sound is okay. That didn't no, that's not right
That's not right luke. I mean that is a word that I've been seeing a lot over the last week
Oh, yeah, because you're in you're on france
Yeah, so it's just a thing here. Yep. Um, yeah
Whoa, starling the headers
Huh, would starlink be faster? I actually think that there's some latency that I'm introducing as well
Interesting because when I switched to my second sub mix to monitor
V mix output, there's quite an extra level of delay
Oh interesting that is probably where it's coming from because this doesn't sound like I mean it just jumped up to 252 milliseconds
But yeah, like that's really high. It shouldn't sound like
This at 162 milliseconds. It's going to be bad but not like that bad or as not as bad as it is
Hmm something to look at for next time luke is in france
In france even the internet goes on strike
I'm occur in the chat
Hey, look, I will say one of the first things we didn't know we didn't know it happened because we didn't get any letters
Hey, hey casual canada casual canada post on strike reference
What were you gonna say luke
One of the first things I saw when I got here was I I came into the hotel and right next to the elevator there was a
There was a sign that listed the the protests that were happening and when and where so that you could avoid them as a tourist
Shrack says if luke just runs around yelling in german he can get whatever he wants
Wow
Oof
Why is a pre-show so edgy Dan? What did you do? I don't know. I don't know man
It's all the jpeg artifacts how did luke get a hotel with ShortCircuit wallpaper?
Debranding oh my god
Well it has to be perfect every single time
Um
One of you saw the merge message message dashboard living in the chat sythe asks what I'm eating
Oh
It's an oldie but a goodie
I Yeah, well definitely be talking about hexos. I finally got to try it dude. Oh, no, no, I'm saving it
That's actually pretty exciting I'm excited to hear about that
Black cream roll says ordered the backpack bundle and mouse pad today and going bankrupt boys
Yeah, you and a lot of people dude. It's been a it's been a pretty wild black friday
I've been seeing some of them stats man. Yeah, the black is not in your bank accounts. I'll tell you that much
I
Well, what what I It's Dan. It's well look what you've done Dan
This show's gonna be Are you 80s madonna? What is this? I'm wearing black
It's black friday It's gotta gotta be on my balance sheet and my and my body my body sheet
Clothes why more backpacks?
I
Haven't had any Actually, no, I'm gonna save that for the show as well
But I have some I have some feedback on LTT Store items that I have used on this trip
Like good feedback or bad. Well, you'll have to you'll have to see must be bad. Otherwise you'd just tell me
No, it's actually quite good. Um
I wonder if it's on sale if the thing that I specifically talking about is not on sale
Then I'll just talk about it now because it doesn't really matter. Uh
I mean if it's not on sale, it's better because it means we might actually make money on it
It's not on sale so I could I could save yeah save it
Oh, but it's sold out damn. Okay. What is it?
The 3d down jacket. Oh, yeah, I love the 3d down jacket. No, it's not coming back
I used it quite literally every single day in every scenario including snowboarding
Because it has those cinches on the bottom I'm so jealous literally my adc
Yeah The the only thing I changed when I went snowboarding was I put a sweater under it
And it was perfect. Yeah, it's a great jacket
No, sorry, Johnny. Johnny B is not coming back. It just didn't sell well enough
We've had a really hard time with like high price garments. Um
We've done really well with like screwdriver with the backpack, but um like jackets like outerwear has been a real struggle for us
3d down is not coming back. No, so take good care of yourself. That's actually genuinely sad
I mean I mean never say never never say never, but yeah, no
I've said this a billion times, but it's like quite genuinely
The best jacket I've ever owned and by like a insanely huge margin
It's like not even sort of close. I wish more people at least tried it
I think that's our biggest problem with things like that. Yeah is a backpack. It's it's a lot easier to assume
How well it's gonna fit on you, right? Something like a jacket. I can understand
Buying something that expensive without being able to try it on being really nerve-wracking
Um, but I really wish people could have tried it because it's it's it's like actually genuinely incredibly good. Yeah, I really like it
I actually really like the windbreaker too
I forget if we called it windbreaker or something, but I really really like that one just that nice waterproof shell
What's the orange reversible one called bomber jacket? Yeah, I got one of those recently. It's been really nice
Yeah, man people wear that around the office and sometimes I forget it's our merch because I don't have one
Um, and I'll just be like man, that's a nice job. Oh, right
James has money wears it all the time. I've been meaning to invert it into orange. It's reversible. Yeah. Yeah
Uh, okay, should we uh, should we do this thing? Sure. Yeah, we're waiting for
Actually, yeah, no, I'm gonna go pee. I'll go pee and then I'll be back and then I'm good to go
Is this is this really the doc? Hold on. Are are there still some things being added to the doc?
Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, it was just an old version loaded
Oh, there's like one topic. Okay. One sec. I'll be right back
Uh, the mystery shirts should be our own garments at this point. I don't think we have any american apparel left
But don't quote me on that
You
Do some christmas there are some uh black friday shopping again
Uh, no because I don't need things and technically if you buy something on sale and you weren't spending
We weren't planning to spend the money. You didn't actually save any money
That is very true There is a few things that I was planning on spending money on though and I've been waiting for months for black friday
So it has worked out for me Yeah, I always forget about black friday and forget about like planning to buy things
I mean, I want some more like storage bins or something like that But normally I just go to home depot and buy like shoe holders and then put parts in them
Um, I found that like the to-go food container things you can buy from cosco
Work really really well as parts organizers And they're super cheap because restaurants would buy them and then basically they're just disposable plastics. So
Yeah, fair enough
I don't know they're like eight dollars
Something that I wasn't planning on buying and I won't be buying but is
crazy Is the the steam deck is 15% off making it 373 canadian that's nuts
That is actually insane That's crazy
Oh my god
373 bucks worth steam deck
Like how much is a switch?
Best buy canada access denied
They do a white edition man, I should get a white one terabyte. Oh, that would be kind of fun
I think that's a oh, it's out of stock. Damn it. Yeah, never mind
I don't need a steam deck
It's nobody needed. Yeah, stop it Dan. The steam deck is out of stock
The special order white the white one. I was pointing out that the steam deck is 15 off
Which makes it less than 400 bucks canadian, which is just kind of crazy. It's a good deal. What is it?
373 switch two is coming also. That's 280 us bucks if you have money for a handheld right now
That's a good point Mind you, I don't know steam deck might still be more powerful
I doubt it. I actually I genuinely doubt it. Uh, okay. All right
Let me bring up the thing Bring up the panel
so to speak Okay, youtube's ready. I believe everything else is ready
I am Not going to be able to interact with you guys much
No, yeah, I mean No, nine minutes. No, I already have 20. No
No, I reject Then I'll do my best good
I wonder where people get the idea from that I'm a complete asshole. I have no idea. I don't know. It's weird
I did do they actually think that somebody like that would interact with us while we're live
Or would they hide it and put it behind the scenes? Uh
I don't know man. I
The number of comments I've seen asking if I was actually completely unsupervised in dbrands factory. I'm just like
Guys, it's a bit
Like what I like flew all the way to toronto and I didn't like say hi to them
Come on. Come on guys
Come on guys. We should just lean into it
I Mean I was allowed to walk around without an escort and that was
Actually, how I found that they had one of our mouse pads. They did not tell me about that
So that was that was real, but and maybe maybe part of it's my own problem, right because I I do
Go out of my way to make the things that we do
Very real, you know um
And so yeah, maybe maybe part of it is that so much outlandish actually real stuff happens on our channel
That it's really hard to tell the difference. Maybe maybe that's part of it and I'm just such a good actor
Sure
No, I don't think it's that I'm a good actor. I think it's that people just are generally very very not discerning
Could be the number dude the number of likes on youtuber apology videos is all you need to know
to figure out How good people's bs detectors are
That's all you need to know. Everybody's calling you an ecotistical maniac. Oh, yeah, 100%
100% also, I don't know anything about computers. Hashtag lieness
Yep Did you keep the car? Uh, yeah, it would have been pretty tough to fit in my carry-on
I'm sure if I asked them for it, I could have it. My kids are a little old for it now
I genuinely fell for April Fool's 2020. Which one was that?
If you did don't feel too bad because you weren't the only one but feel a little bit bad because all of our April Fool's are pretty, um
Yeah, obvious Yeah, what was the 2020? Oh, that was that was lieness
The one where I don't actually know anything
Maybe I'm falling for their deception right now I
That one was pretty funny. That was that one was pretty funny
I think that might be the one that has the most views. Is that our highest viewed April Fool's?
I can't believe no, no the the most recent one is our highest viewed. Oh, no
No, the previous one the potato the potato farm one. Those are so good
That makes sense. Oh, man Some of our April Fool. Oh, what no the server room catches fire actually has more
Do they all get like two plus million views these days the one that's just a never-ending sponsor segway is the worst performing one, but we made
So much money. That was such a cool. I think I bought the cheese for that
Dude, we made can't remember even after you factor in the high cost of cheese these days. We made
Like buckets of money. It was crazy
Oh, this is curious the only fans one
Doesn't even show up
Check this out. Check this out. Yeah, I search for Linus April Fool's
And they're all here except the only fans one
We're at like gamer drinks. Oh, whoa. Oh, dude
LMG clips talking about it that one here it is that one didn't get shadow bad
Way down here. Oh, wait. Yeah. No, it shouldn't matter Linus April Fool. Yeah, it should be
This keyword should do it, but it doesn't this is such a cursed thumbnail, dude
Oh, yeah, the fact that it has this like white drop off the eggplant here is like beyond
uncomfortable
Hmm What is this face Dennis making here? Uh, okay. Anyway, why don't we um, why don't we do this thing?
I
Sorry, I know I don't think there's any plans to bring back the 3d down jacket with that said with that said I I have some thoughts on
I have some thoughts after seeing this black friday about our product mix and I'll I'll talk to the team about it, but no promises
No promises
Um I totally understand if there's no business case for it. It just
Genuinely makes me sad because it's I think one of our like
Actually just bests like product products like there's I can't think of pretty much anything I'd want different on it
It's fantastic
Sorry, I just heard from um
Hashtag, okay, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna hit it. I'm gonna hit it. We're gonna do it
All right, I'm resuming the selected now
You
What's up everyone happy black friday and welcome to the wend show
Australia has actually no I don't care as much about this one
It's really it's really interesting and it's really important But what I actually want to talk about is an influencer who is suing another influencer for infringing on her vibe
I have so many thoughts on this actually luke. Um, hold on. I'm gonna need to can can
Dan, can you can you get rid of luke for a second? There's a lot of beige
There's a lot of beige in in luke's vibe right now and that could be infringing
I would like to I'd like to avoid a loss actually hold on. I need these chairs
I need these chairs out of the frame. There we go. Okay. We have a non-infringing dang it
We have we have a non-infringing vibe Uh, okay. Oh perfect. That's great. Um
The Labs did oh Man, we've got so many great topics this week
Fine. The Labs did a super cool article about power supply efficiency ratings and how the power supply you buy
Might actually be better than what you would think based on the label on the box. What else we got? Okay, Dan
We can put everything back Australia banned social media for kids under 16
and Gaming in the usa is about to get rather
Terrifiable That's not funny. Oh, I think it's pretty right
Oh
The show is brought to you today by jump cloud LG and vessie
and also our Laptop partner LG and of course deep friend and secret Labs
who are our skin partner and uh, I wouldn't have skin without dbrand and also our chair partner
Which Dan conveniently covered up with luke right as I was about to point at it way to go Dan
Good timing as always. All right. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic for the day?
Which I actually forget what it is Dan. Do you remember what it is? You're an advertisement
Uh, oh Oh, yeah, we didn't even talk about that. It's going so well so far. That's awesome. Um, LTT Store
has had three Sponsored creator videos go up this week. Um, including two long form videos and one short luke. Have you seen any of them?
None you have seen none perfect. Uh, so
We have it. We are all of our all of our influencer marketing is going up in reverse alphabetical order
So it's going to start with zack builds and zack's tech turf
And then we skip all the way to m wait are
Yeah, go ahead. We do that on purpose. We wouldn't know why not even a little bit. No, no 100%
No, no our third one is macho nacho productions
And I'm pretty sure we would have been able to find at least one or two tech youtubers who are
You know between zed and m. Anyway, check this out
This is such a cool video has already got nearly half a million views from zack builds
Obviously, I'm going to want you guys to go check out the entire video and not just the LTT product placement in it
But but but watch this watch this watch this. Hold on. Wait for it. Wait for it. That was annoying
I can't believe it didn't work from the factory Blah blah blah ready to keep pushing forward. He's don't worry. Something interesting is going to happen soon. Let me segue to our sponsor
LTT Store.com let's go Let's go
I gotta tell you I did send a rather terse email to the best
When I saw this spot go live And the reason for that is that while
Zach actually did an amazing job by the way This is incredible of showing off the screwdriver showing off everything that's good about it the strength of the magnet
Um, the completeness of the kit, uh, he did just an outstanding job talking about the quality
It's really well shot. The one thing that he didn't do
Is use our screwdriver for the project
Fortunately
Fortunately the good news here is that
in spite of any perceived beef that may exist on their side, uh, I have nothing against I fix it
A huge huge advocate for for their
For their mission and all of that Anyway, we just we didn't get to him in time and uh, he did say in the sponsor spot that if the screwdriver had gotten to him
In time to do the project because it arrived after he'd done it
Uh, yeah, I was like that's That's rough. All right. If it had gotten there in time to do the project
He would have preferred to use it. He didn't say he really liked it. So that's that's really good to hear
Um, anyway, I got I got I got a real kick out of that and I was like yo guys, um
Look like it's fine, but like
Really and they were like no no no no no no that's how it went down. Anyway, uh, so we also had a video go up with
Zach Zach's tech turf. This one. I haven't actually watched yet. Uh, this one's a short
Oh, wait, I didn't even know who it was, but I know the guy's face. I 100. Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry other zack
Um, yeah, my bad. Anyway tools pc builders actually need
A knife. All right fair enough cutters. Yep fair enough
Most importantly screwdriver. Let's go
Freakin awesome So that's our second one that went live. Oh, look at this. He's got a whole bunch of them
Okay, that's pretty cool Uh, so that's the second one that went live and then uh, also, uh, macho nacho productions
This is a really cool video. You guys are going to want to check this one out as well
Nintendo never gave us a switch pro. So martyrs did
Um, also just a really really nice really nice spot for the precision screwdriver
And yes guys, I can see you in the comments. I hear you in the comments shrieking about us
Uploading a promotional video With influencer marketing for a product you literally can't buy right now because it's out of stock
Trust me. I don't like it any more than you do
but Hey, look, okay. We're new to this. Okay, we're
You can sign up for some newsletter about when it's going to be back in stock or something and I don't know nix said it was going to be
December-ish maybe when they have more information
It's such a classic like us problem
I know that's the that's the exact type of thing that we would screw up that that's very on brand
Yeah, so there's this great project as hype is as f and like you're gonna love it and like
Yeah, I don't know what oh Yeah, too bad. Maybe it's our strat. Maybe just nobody consulted me and that's our strat
You're going for the luxury product strat, you know, yeah, it's it's a it's the new berkin bag
The LTT precision screwdriver. I gotta make an appointment for it, but you're not allowed to make appointments
Yeah, put it in your put it in your loved one's stocking
Next year hope that they don't need to screw anything together between now and then
Anyway, you guys are gonna want to check this video out as well. Super cool
Um, and yeah, I don't know what to say about this other than that go check out those videos
Massive shout out to them for for working with us on this. I mean, obviously they didn't you know, nothing in life is free
We we believe in paying people for their work So these are these are these are paid sponsorships as you guys would would expect from us
And you can expect to see a lot more. We have a couple discussion questions
The first one is does it feel weird to go full circle?
from sponsored to sponsor, um
And I gotta say I feel like I feel like this is hardly full circle so much as it's that I am
Going in circles, right because I started out
as just like, uh, like like a paid mouthpiece to make product videos for rich video merchandising on product pages
And then made my way into like like like independent sort of opinion slash tutorials and guides and reviews
while also maintaining the other thing in parallel and then
Started doing sponsorships also in parallel to then creating products and like sponsoring myself
To sponsoring others to splitting off the lab to be its own like independent media review thing to like
I don't know. I just got I got a lot going on
I got a lot going on over here. Um, but yeah, no, I you know, it feels kind of cool
It's uh, it's um, it's not the same feeling as seeing the product get reviewed like independently reviewed
um But I would say it's honestly kind of
More fun in like a different way if that makes sense like it's just it's more surreal
Right like it feels like an out-of-body experience a little bit
If that is that kind of makes sense something that's been
I mean, it's it's I've always had this reaction where like if I'm if I'm watching a youtube video
And then I notice someone's wearing like one of our shirts or like one of our sweaters or something
It's always like oh, whoa like it kind of it's
It's jarring in a good way if that makes sense they get kind of
I don't know you have to take a second to kind of absorb it, but now it's happening where
Shirts as as much as I do like our shirts, you know, I'm I didn't even really think about it. I'm wearing one of them right now
They they feel more on the merch side of things when someone's using one of the tools
And they don't talk about it and they're not making like like it it feels like it wasn't a conscious decision
It was just like no, this is just the best thing that I have for this
Then it's it's it's almost a different form of reaction. I don't know it's kind of and like
one thing that's really different about the sponsorship thing for me is that I've talked a lot about how I have a very
Kind of limited schedule and I can't I don't have enough time to fill it with a ton of youtube
I don't watch a ton of youtube. I don't really uh, I don't really sample my own products so to speak
But I have felt compelled To watch these videos from the creators that we sponsor because and like look
I would never because I've been on the other side of it I would never like give myself credit for their hard work
But I do feel like we supported it right
Like I feel like we helped Enable them to do what they do and it's it's
It's a really different Feeling it shouldn't be. I mean we enable people to do their creative work all day every time Riley uploads TechLinked
You know Linus media group incorporated has enabled something, you know
That's what we literally do for a living But it feels a little different when it's these small
Smaller creators or in some cases. I mean we've even sponsored creators that are arguably our size or bigger depending on the measure
Right, but right. I don't know. It feels it's it's vibes. It's good vibes
Yeah Yeah, I mean that makes sense. I mean especially when
You know that's add sense on tech content isn't that amazing
So at the end of the day a lot of what keeps the wheel going around is this kind of sponsored content
So it's fun helping keep the wheel going around for other people as well
And what's cool about that is that one of the things that we've made a conscious effort to do
Over the last five years or so and maybe longer than that actually over over the years
Is to is to diversify our sponsorships and make ourselves less dependent on the brands that we cover
And that's a tough thing to do because especially when you're first starting out
the advertisers target Whoever is the audience is that most overlap with the people who will buy their products which
For reviewers obviously going to you're gonna you're gonna target the reviewers who are
Making videos that viewers are watching that are reviews of their products, right?
So you're gonna have this inherent kind of conflict and you can manage that you can mitigate that you can have good agreements
You can have strong moral fiber a good character and you can and you can keep your editorial and your and your sponsored talking points separate
But it's always going to be there. It's always going to be there and it's always going to mean that you're going to be dependent
There's a hand that feeds you and there's there's gonna it's at least going to occur to you whether or not you should bite it and
You might be an absolute Wild man like me and go out of your way to bite it
Just for lulls like I mean the frame the framework secret shopper when I'd say is probably the best recent example of that
We didn't have to do that Nerov has not even emailed me about it. He has not so much as acknowledged that video to me
Which I think is really funny What about when it's your own hand? What about when you reviewed LTT Store? Yeah, I don't know. We're we're idiots
honestly like we're we're kind of crazy um
And you know what there's a lot of integrity like in the tech youtube space There's a lot of people that I think would do the same thing if they had the privilege but
But this is something that they are not dependent on they don't depend on me for anything if anything
I'm like a competitor or whatever right not not that I really see it that way
But I'm more I'm more if they make me matter whatever like what drama drama builds audiences drama gets views
I mean there's certainly plenty of examples of that in the tech space, right? So it's it's one of those things where like
They have absolutely nothing to lose
By like burning a sponsor relationship with me or whatever right and it makes them less dependent
On tech sponsors that actually exist within the vertical that they cover. So that's something that's really cool to me
I think that's probably if I had to nail it down
I think that's the coolest thing is that we are enabling the same diversification
That we have sought to achieve for ourselves
And and that's a really that's a really healthy thing for the space to have sponsors that you don't
Cover as well. That's that's that's the ideal
Anyway, sorry, but what are we what are we supposed to be talking about? Yeah, so yeah, this is cool
Oh our other discussion question Actually, maybe you can speak to this because I I think you're like you're doing a paid gig thing right now
Like that's what you're in France for right? So yeah, the discussion question is can you talk about brand creator relationships?
And how sponsorships even work does the brand reach out does the creator reach out?
How does it wake? I mean it can work in both ways in regards to reaching out. Um, I I think
Generally how we do it is you you have you have your pretty the business. You might kill me here
Somebody say something wrong. So I don't know don't take this at my word, but you have some
Partners that you've been working with for a long time And it's more like you talk to them near the beginning of the year near the beginning of the quarter
Whatever you try to figure out like, okay, what is our approach going to be this time?
Um, like how can we best work together this time? There's some amount of assumption that you're going to work together
There's some like cold calling where you're reaching out to people seeing if you can work with them
And then there's cold calling in our direction where people are reaching out to us seeing if they can work with us
um In this particular case, I don't necessarily know what happened. I think being a review company having
uh, relationships with Companies and make products has always been kind of interesting. Um
Like what i'm in france for is ovh ovh we use as a company and have been using as a company for like genuinely close to a decade
I think a decade Because the forum I think so. Yeah
Yeah, wow, that's cool 10 years of partnership. Let's go
Yeah, we've also used almost every one of their products, which is like kind of crazy
Like we even at one point in time we used one of the products which is called so you start
Which is like basically semi recycled like very old
discount servers because that's I mean at one point in time that made sense for us, right?
um So like that that that one's pretty easy because like when I when i'm here hosting with them
It's I just get to talk about like I don't know the reason why I've been using them for basically a decade
Which makes it pretty simple. There has been times where you know, I'll be pretty friendly with
representatives from a certain company and then
Uh, we do a review and then suddenly I mean I was still down to be friendly
And then it becomes not very friendly anymore. Um, but that's just part of the playing field, right? Like you can't um
You you can't let Whatever you have going on affect a review
It doesn't matter like it's completely irrelevant at that point the second you're reviewing something
You have to be completely impartial. So I mean I've I've lost people that I was friendly with
Um, but it's it's part of the game. Um, and there's also been people like you just mentioned the framework thing, right? Like some people get it
And they're just like, okay. Well, I'll take from this what I can and we keep moving forward, right? It doesn't matter
And and then there's astro who never spoke to me again after this review
Yeah Yeah, it's part of the it's part of the game. It is what it is. I don't know
Yep, but you got to be yeah, you got to you got to be uh, you got to be willing to just kind of move forward like I think
As much as I dog on them, which is part of the point of what I'm saying about to say
Um, NVIDIA has grown up a lot over the last little bit
We dog on them. We talk about the things that they do that we don't like, you know, we we tease their leather jacket
Kitchen enjoying CEO, you know, we we like we talk about the the negative aspects
I I think I've made it very clear. I think they're an extremely difficult company to work with
I think they've got a an arrogance about them a chip on their shoulder that makes its way
straight from the top But you know, I think we also acknowledge the good that they do we acknowledge the
Extremely strong track record they have for product support for example NVIDIA's software support for their aging and legacy products
stands out In an industry where many companies will just arbitrarily drop support for things
Even that are quite new When they when they commit to something they they they follow through on it
I mean even when it's obviously failing look at how long they stuck by 3d vision in spite of the fact that it was
clearly Dead, but that ecosystem they built they supported it for a long time
So we talk about the things they do bad we talk about the things that they do well
and after a couple of years and someone who
Did take things personally ultimately leaving the company under some circumstances that I I genuinely don't know what they were
But they're not there anymore. They have come back to the table
I think we're probably going to be working with them this coming year We've done some stuff with them in 2024
And and that's good like that's a healthy thing for them to be able to be
criticized on the one hand editorially and be able to work with us to
On a like a you know sponsored or advertiser capacity to get their side of the messaging out if that's if that's what they want
You got to have you got to have both of those things and if you want to reach our audience
You're just going to have to accept that that's how it works. Uh Colton today
I think I think this might end up in a behind the scenes that sammy was shooting Colton today brought up the time
He had to get on a call with Intel right after I did that intro with like
Me as like uh like a hostage like a terrorist hostage
Yeah, do you remember this?
No Um, yeah, but I don't I don't remember. Yeah, here it is. Here it is
So we did this we did this bit where I
I pretended that uh Here we go
That Intel was holding me at gunpoint and I had to read a statement saying that their
That their stuff was really good or whatever He had to get he had to get on a call with them like the day after that went live to smooth it over
Oh, man, I can't believe the kind of stuff we've done over the years
Like this is crazy. This is absolutely crazy. It's also really funny to me that I that I I
That anyone even remotely
Acknowledges people who are like, yeah Linus would never say anything negative about a sponsor or whatever like dude
I Was I was explaining the the concept of I'm gonna I don't have a swear button
manually bleep it but um I was explaining the concept of stuff manufacturers say the other day to somebody
And they were like, wait, you guys actually did this and I like showed them a few of the videos. They're like
What?
Oh, yeah, dude, um, I think cooler master works with us again
So I guess I can say this but the cooler master Like didn't talk to us for I think like a solid two or three years
After that one on there. There's supposedly mechanical keyboard one from from the uh, manufacturers say series
I remember that. Oh, that's hilarious
I don't know man, but like I don't know. It is what it is. It doesn't matter. You gotta be
The thing is the thing is look if you do your job well enough and I'm talking to my fellow content creators right now
Okay, if you do the job well enough, it's not gonna matter who likes you or who doesn't like you because at the end of the day
People come they go in this industry. They move around jobs. They move around positions
If you're good enough, you'll still be there Doesn't matter. There's always there's always another there's always another chance to restart the relationship
That doesn't mean that you should be malicious. You should never be malicious never do anything out of malice. That's not healthy either
But you've got to speak your mind. You've got to you've got to be honest You've got to you've got to bring the the best knowledge that you have to your audience
And as long as you do that the audience is going to be there for it And as long as the audience is going to be there for it
The brands will always come crawling back Every single one part of this except apple
Well, they were never there in the first place
I think uh, I think an important part of this equation is that we need to come back to basically like
If if someone scorns us, but then there's there's a change in the future that we need to do it as well
Which we screwed something up If we screwed something up, then we should do what it takes to to heal the relationship as well
Yeah, totally for sure
G brand is most healthy sponsor relationship. Yeah, I don't know about that, but uh, definitely it works. It works in its own toxic way. Um
All right, what do you want? What do you want to talk about next? What do you want to talk about next?
Oh, uh, actually on this. Okay. No, go ahead
I was gonna say the australia banned social media for kids under 16. Let's do it
Do you want me to do it? I don't know how the latency is is yeah, it's like it's like a two second delay, but uh, you go ahead
All right. All right, so that's really has passed. It's
Stop it, you know to do that on purpose. Um, he's sorry about that austra
Australia's fastest controversial social media ban for children under 16 into law only a week after being released
That's genuinely kind of nuts Rather than punishing children who managed to get around it
Which many are already promising to do the law compels platforms like tiktok facebook snapchat instagram x and even reddit
To find some way to block access by minors, which doesn't involve requiring government ID, which is good
Ask them to write in cursive
That would uh, that would probably work. Um until you get an ai that can like
I mean, it wouldn't even need to be an ai just like a font system. Anyways, uh, social media sites
Possibly any website that allows uh interaction between users. So any any like yeah social media site ugc site stuff like that. Um
Could face fines of up to 33 million us dollars for systemic failures to prevent children under 16 from holding accounts
Oh crap
Wait, what are we a social media platform by this definition?
We have multiple of them What do you mean multiple? What other than Floatplane?
The forum Oh
Oh, no for no forms not so I really hope there's some amount of like
It only comes into account. What's your certain size because if not, we're gonna have to figure something out
Because that's a lot of money anyways
The government says that the law
33 million usd australian does not how that works
Oh, it's 33 million australian dollars. Okay. Okay. So like 20 bucks
Not too bad not too bad or or like 300 million canadian. Yeah cost of doing business
The government says that the law supports parents concerned about online harms to their children while opponents are concerned
The ban could negatively impact mental health
By cutting vulnerable young people off from support networks. Oh, wow
Interesting. Wow, there's a lot to unpack there because like yeah, social media does allow us to connect with each other
but the problem is that
Each other are a lot of the time so like
Man, it's like, I'm oh man. Are you better off strongly of the opinion that it
Does a lot more harm than it prevents
This is tough. Okay, go ahead I'm sure I'm sure it will hurt for certain people though. I don't know. Anyways, um
Privacy advocates warned that, um
But it's moving around sorry once like privacy advocates warned the law would lead to increased collection of personal information
While the australian human rights commission said the law may infringe human rights of young people by interfering with their
Society man. These are some wild arguments. But like hold on hold on
Is that true? Like are you able to participate in modern society? And remember remember remember forever like people's society
is defined By their way of interacting with it if if your way of interacting with people is through social media if that's your cohort
Is there a valid argument there? I I think there might be
No Why I don't I don't think so. I I think my reasoning for that is because
You're not going to stop interacting with your peers
So if they ban social media, you will find some other way to interact with your peers
You're not you're not stopped from interacting with society. You're
Being stopped from interacting with society Uh with a society of specifically adults and in one specific way
You can still observe because you could still like go on youtube. I'm sure
Because it's talking about making accounts. It's not talking about using the platform
So you could still look at reddit. You could still look at youtube
You just can't interact with it, which I think is fine
And then in regards to participating in society, you can still talk to other people
You can you can I'm you can call your friend. You can talk to your friend in person. Um, I think that's a
a massive Overreach of what's actually happening to say that they're being like cutting cut off from interacting with society. That's not fair
um And I I think in some ways, honestly
Especially when you have developing brains and whatnot, you don't necessarily want
Uh all forms of society being shoved into your head all at the same time
I I think there's arguments that that's bad for for currently evolved humans of all ages to a certain degree
Um, let me let me play devil's advocate here for a second
I would say that probably
95 percent of my eldest's
social interaction Um, when he's at home is on discord discord is
Obviously social media. It's not on the list here
But I would I would assume that it would be someone's going to figure out at some point that it's social media
So it'll probably be added to the list and the problem with that is that the infrastructure that existed
before discord Doesn't exist anymore
Like there is still there. No. No. No. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. No. No. No. No. Hold on. Hold on
I'm going even farther back than that even farther back than that because team speak would still be a social platform potentially
Uh, so we got to go farther back than that the landline
Is not part of the family home anymore
Like there is no way even if i'm like here son or daughter borrow my cellular telephone
There's no one for them to call It's weird like it is it's it's it's not taboo
But it's not normal for you know one of my kids friends
To call my phone that would be not normal that would be weird
Like we have these boundaries that exist around cell phones
That sort of come from the time when the cell phone was separate from the landline home phone
But those landline home phones went away. There is no phone number for my kids to call to talk to their friends
So if they don't interact online
How do they talk to them when they aren't at school together when they aren't already in the same physical room?
And i'm not saying there is that this is insurmountable. I'm just i'm playing devil's advocate a little bit here on purpose
Because yeah, because for better or for worse
This is the communication lifeline that they have to each other that they're used to and cold turkey
May not be ideal
And i have got a few opinions on this i think if you look at the list of things that they mentioned
I don't necessarily know That discord would be on there. I think it would be
But i'm not certain because tiktok facebook snapchat instagram x
Reddit all of these are big feeds of information you jump on
It's forcing content into your face something like team speak especially but also discord you are more
Joining things if when you set up discord by default, there's nothing
And then you join a server right there's there's some there's some action that you have to take on x
Or whatever there's there's like a there's a home feed on reddit
There's a home feed facebook home feed tiktok home feed all of these things have a feed of information that is given to you no matter what
I think it's different. I don't know how this law would view discord. Maybe it is included
Maybe it's not but something that I would really push is that I guarantee you
day zero People are going to figure out how to interact with each other in some way
I think the the comment that you made and one of the comments in here talking about how they can't participate in society
Are both assuming that humans somehow for some reason for the first time in
However many years you believe in Decided to stop innovating which just makes no actual sense
Like people are going to communicate. There's there's going to be a way
So i'm not i'm not personally super concerned about that
Um Yeah, I don't know. I think there'll be growing pains for sure
I think you underestimate the the inertia of being used to something I completely no I completely
I think there will be growing pains 100% What what my whole day zero thing wasn't like it'll be good day zero
My point was that people will be trying things working on things day zero
It might take a pretty considerable amount of time Um, but I also think that that's okay. I don't think that we should
Not do things because there is any amount of downside
um, I think we should recognize that there is a
immense and extremely deep
deeply rooted negative impact of having
um kids on social media, um
I I think it's I think social media of all kinds is is genuinely like a negative thing
For for a lot of society. I think there are positives to it
But I I I do think for the most part it it negatively weighs on a lot of people doom scrolling
you know if you have a
There's this whole concept that like relaxation and rest is actually very important
and there's there's been
Some studies i'm looking into this recently that people aren't receiving
The amount of relaxation and rest that they should have because you're you're going to work in stressing
And then you're coming home and your your rest time is
Actually like hyper stimulated Etc, which is extreme stimulation and extreme stress because the stuff that's working really well on those platforms is is negativity
It's really bad news. It's all these it's it's fighting It's you know when you when you work and you have a stressful day and then you go home and you fight people on twitter
You're not resting Uh, here's a here's a pitch. He's stressed out. Here's a pitch from full plane chat. Um from alon
What if they banned algorithmic social media?
Rather than just social media in general because if you strip away the algorithm element of it
Um, I mean it's basically just you could draw a lot of parallels to something like a discord or an iMessage group chat or a forum
I mean is twitter really that different from a forum at that point, right? You've got a you've got a parent
Post and then you've got a thread of replies Fundamentally you can you could DM other people in the replies. You know like I actually do think it is
I do I do think it's quite different and that that's why I was saying like I don't technically know when looking at this
if um things like discord count because
um, there's a so okay algorithmic Sure, but on stuff like x or twitter or whatever. There's a global feed
Um on stuff like facebook. There's there's global information if there was a way to use facebook where it only
Ever well, that's what i'm talking about. That's what i'm talking about your friends list. Yeah, so no no algorithm feeding
Yeah, okay I think that would be a lot
Better to be clear. I'm not saying that any of these platforms are going to agree to build that version of their product for australia
Like I don't I don't think that's gonna happen. I mean this this mostly is just
The reality of it is and I don't live in australia
I don't have any kids who live in australia So to me this is just kind of an academic conversation and i'm sorry that this is actually impacting people
Whichever side of the fence you you sit on on this issue
But for me, this is just kind of an opportunity to to to talk about, you know
Because it just whichever whatever position you're in whichever your stance is
I think what we could probably all agree on is that this seems like it got rushed
Um, this seems like it got pushed through without necessarily
Full consideration of the ramifications and that's really been my main point this whole time
I'm not saying that I disagree that kids should not be on social media
Um, I'm just saying that it seems like there's a lot we haven't considered here
Meanwhile in 13 european countries tick tock is blocking users under 18 from using its beauty filters
Defined as effects designed to alter your appearance
Particularly effects that users may mistake for unaltered video and
Effects which are designed to be obvious and funny which will not be blocked
So so specifically the beauty filters are the ones that are designed to
Um Look like an unaltered video a tick tock which already doesn't allow accounts for users under 13
Also said they're developing machine learning technology to help detect and prevent people under 13 from being on platform
I don't know how effective that's going to be
Uh, probably about as effective as it is right now, which is zero. I mean, I definitely have
Young relatives who are on tick tock more than I would allow my young relatives to be on tick tock, but um
I I I I can't tell other people how to parent
I think the thing that I would I would add before we go on is that I I think
Much more siloed experiences like discord. I think I'm wildly more okay with
How discord can be a lot discord can be pretty wild west, man
Like you can you can find some pretty some some pretty unhinged stuff on discord pretty easily
100% if you join if you join the Certain servers that have that but I think it's in my opinion. It's a lot easier to
as a as not a parent I have to assume as a parent that it would be easier to
Watch discord usage. Okay, I'm gonna blow your mind. I'm gonna blow your mind right now
The parent generation the parent generation never had a shot dude
Like I I attended this thing our youtube rep asked me to go to this like technology and parenting thing to to connect with
Oh, shoot. What was her name? Basically, she runs this not-for-profit that's um, that's really focused on media literacy
Um, especially in children Um media media smarts. Uh, so there are canadian not-for-profit. Um, so she really wanted me to connect with her and
They were I mean the presentation was totally
Pointless for me. It was like very basic It was like very thousand foot view of like, you know the importance of of talking to kids and you know
What does managing screen time mean and you know stuff like that, right?
um But one thing that I thought was really
Interesting about the conversation. Oh shoot. How did I get kicked on to this? Ah, where were we?
Nope now I've forgotten Fred
Didn't remember controls I was talking about discord using discord. Ah, yes discord. Okay
so One of the things that that I thought about and that was part of my conversation when I was chatting with her
Was that you know, we're having this conversation where we we talk about, you know, best practices for you know
Guiding our children's online interactions and you know supervising screen time rather than than limiting it or using parental control software
Like actually like it was it was good. It was a good chat. It was like, you know, healthy healthy parenting guidance actually
It was really good But I basically told her I was like look you got a
Something that I think is kind of missing in this sort of an academic discussion
Is that the average parent is not equipped
To do the things that you're asking them to do the vast majority of the parents that I talked to and these are these are parents like my ish
Age like I'm a relatively young parent in my son's cohort
But I'm not that young anymore by the time we make it to my second daughter's cohort
Um, just because like Yvonne and I had kids pretty young relative to other millennials
So you got to get to her like our third kid by the time I'm sort of the same age as people whose first kid is the same age as my
youngest um So I'm so I'm running into people like my age people who grew up on emison messenger and habbo hotel
and the majority The majority have no idea what the f*** discord even is
Let alone how to tell what servers their kids are on and how to go look through their history or
Figure out who their friends with or even know with that cute little ghost face icon even
Means they don't know they don't understand and you can you can kind of like you could like crap on them and be like
And that's the reality. Yeah Yeah, getting mad is not going to actually change anything. Yeah, I think
I I agree. I I think it's just like
Some amount of anything like no matter what detection that they do. I'm just trying to think like, you know, if you put me at
13 I'd get around it. I don't I don't care what they do. I'd find some way if I actually wanted to
But leaving some form of barrier in place to try to dissuade
Using these platforms
Is probably a good idea because they I
I know people personally that I think honestly
Usage of these types of platforms has introduced more brain rot
Than like weed and alcohol Like I I think it's really bad. I think it has a huge potential for negative in people's lives
so Holding off until people are a little bit older and hopefully a little bit more aware
Of the impact that can come from these things
Can be good
If they if they really want it, they'll find a way and it's not like you're completely stopping them from communicating
And anyway and things like team speak and discord I think are are less of a negative impact than than other things, although anything
Ever is going to have downsides right like even social clubs. You could have predators there
Oh, for sure Like like you have no idea, right? Like there's there's always every single thing you ever do is going to have some form of downside
So and anywhere where children congregate
Intentional choice of words predators will
Will find a way to infiltrate Um, yeah, so shout out. Uh, yeah, shout out media smarts.ca by the way
So, uh, one of the things that you can do is you can share resources like this. Um,
They I I only met they Yeah, uh, so what flashing back. Yeah, they talk about, um
Media literacy in particular like how to recognize fake news how to fact check
How to do your own research a lot of people say do your own research
But a lot of people, um, who try to do their own research are
Giant f***ing idiots and probably shouldn't do their own research. They should just find someone who did the research for them
And they should listen to them Uh, unfortunately because they have no idea how to do their own research
They have no idea how to choose someone to do research for them. So they're hopeless, but anyway media smarts.ca check it out
Ah
And uh, yeah, so, uh, strawberry in Floatplane chat says media safety should be mandatory in education imo
That's a big part of what media smarts is actually pushing for and one of their big frustrations and I uh, I
We're very much like our southern neighbors this way Is that our our educational curriculum is handled at a provincial level rather than at a federal level
So instead of them With their very limited resources and money
Lobbying one body, right at a federal level
They have to go around and they have to lobby at a provincial level to try to get this stuff integrated into the platform to try to
Build these resources. So it's a it's an important mission. It's extremely challenging
It's an extremely challenging thing to tackle, especially when there seem to be much better funded organizations that have
A lot more interest in keeping people media illiterate. Um, which is uh, which is an unfortunate fact of our time
Yeah Anywho uh
Merch messages, I guess we're supposed to talk about those. I guess we'll also do like announcements and stuff
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Buh
Are we down? I um, can't tell
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Where are they now with arianas being our first focus? I've been asked to start playing at 346 Dan
Are you set up for audio? What
What
Why are we ever not set up for audio do we uh
Cool, I got you. All right. Well, here's ariana
Yeah, we needed it Now this is the sorry. What what what what just happened?
What was that? I also had this baby gate. Oh, that was Elijah falling down the stairs
That was like we don't need it because I haven't foreoated just in case
We needed it now. This is the funny room
Oh my goodness Sadly pina is not here anymore. He passed away a couple months ago due to some health complications
So it's just me and odin my little dude. He's got hay on his face right now because he's uh
A little messy eater Was that the part that I was supposed to play? Hold on. Let me find out
Now 346 until four minutes. Oh, I'm at completely the wrong time stamp time stamp. Okay. Well, let's um
Let's go to the time stamp. I'm supposed to be at and let's try that again. Shall we use these stairs very well
Um, but if you come down here You can actually see oh no, there's a mark from when Elijah
slipped. Oh, wow Yeah, sorry, Elijah
anyways That's all there is to it. Yep
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What is the best and worst deal LTT Store has ever done?
I think the mystery screwdriver deal is probably right up there with our best deals
um, I think the I think the willy wonka
Deal on the 3d down jacket was pretty cool. I think it was a 1 in 10 chance to win or something like that
It was either 1 in 10 or 1 in 5. It was like a no, no, no, sorry
It was either 10 in 100 or 5 in 100. It was either 10 percent or 5 percent
And people won a trip here like literally like a couple dozen people won and came and got tours
Just for buying a 3d down jacket. That was a pretty cool one
um In compel says $15 hoodies online day. That was crazy. That was like way below cost jerman says $5 desk pad
Like uh, yeah, that was stupid. We shouldn't have done that. Um, yeah, there's there's some stuff
We really just like straight up shouldn't have done um
Yeah, $29 for the dropout was great says crystal
As for the worst deals we've done. I don't know if we've ever done like a
Bad deal. I can tell you what our worst performing product is though
Do you guys want to know all time? I it might be of all time
It's it's really bad. It doesn't sell at all like nobody cares. I I love it. I think it's super cool
But it's uh, oh, yeah, you can see Um, well, it's a better deal right now
I'm pretty sure this is below our cost I I would have asked for this to be priced a little bit higher than this
But our GPU crash tower game
um It costs what it costs because that's what it costs to get detailed laser
engraving Across, you know that many little pieces of wood, but this thing did not sell at all
Like at all Um, I'm gonna actually message them to save one for me. I don't have one yet, but I I want one
Uh, by the way, nick message to say that it's just unfortunate timing that our precision screwdriver sponsor spots came out first
We have lots of other ones going for other products that are in stock. It was just yeah, just really unfortunate timing
Hey, can you guys hold on to a GPU crash tower game for me period?
I don't have one yet and I would really like to remember my worst product idea
Actually, I don't think it was my idea, but it was uh, I I was
Very supportive of this project in spite of the fact that it was like obviously
Made no sense. Like I think you can get first party jenga for like 12 dollars or something like that
But first party jenga is not
Lasering graved. I don't even know if that's engraving. Whatever. It's not lasered. It doesn't have lasers
I mean it has a little bit of lasering just way less
Oh, all right hit me Dan jr. I've got one for luke here. Mr. Luke. Lafweef we if canada banned chicken, would you move?
chicken Banned chicken, I would I would start uh, then what did they what did they call it? Was it bootlegging?
I mean you'd never have sex again. Could you live without it?
That's a good point. I might have to we'll have to do remote wan shows forever. Um
What what was it called when people would run alcohol during the pro lagging?
Bootlegging. Yeah, okay. I thought so. Um, I feel like I would end up like bootlegging chicken breast bootleg chicken
I feel like if you put a chicken in your bootleg, it would probably be not safe for consumption by the time you get to anywhere to cook it
I see I need the LTT Store like active cooling boots. Um
Yeah, I don't know, uh, I don't know in all seriousness
Like no, I can't just like move away from work regardless of
What weird actions Canadian government takes but it is what it is
I mean Yeah, I'm not gonna they might do some weird stuff. So we'll see
See how it goes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I suspect the next
Four years for the whole world is gonna be weird. Do it's it's have you oh man
This is maybe not a topic for wancho, but it's it's great the
Consistency at which every single ruling party in every single country in the entire world is being voted out is nuts
Yeah, ours is next Oh, yeah. Oh for sure. Yeah, there's no way he holds up. Yeah, and it's it's almost like
It's almost like there were global events that took place
That contributed to the challenging environment that they were all dealing with I'm not saying that
I'm not saying that all or any of them or whatever. I'm not saying any of them
We're doing a great job given the circumstances. I'm just saying I'm just saying it's almost like
There was a whole thing You know that was going on on a global scale almost like that
Yeah, it's almost like that
I stopped in Uh, yeah, do you want to hit us with one more Dan? Oh, I know there's there's a lot now that we've highlighted the black friday deals
They seem to be coming in at a pretty ridiculous rate. I've only got four curated most people are just like awesome. Thanks for the deals
Oh, that's nice. Shout out those people rip my wallet, etc
Oh, wait. No before you do that before you do that. There was a chat
A chat that I wanted to respond to that wasn't a merge message ash 69 said at Linus xqc needs help building a pc again
Why doesn't he just buy one at this point? Did you learn nothing? Like honestly, I I don't think he should build a pc
I um, I think that he should buy a computer
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She's texture sensitive and your underwear is the most comfortable. She's ever found. Thank you for making great products
um Make sure she gets as much as she'll ever need
I don't think we're gonna stock it again because it hasn't been a big mover. So
Oh No, that's what that's what happens with our
That's I think no, we're bringing back the men stuff But we've had some trouble with suppliers for the men stuff. So it's um, I thought you're getting rid of the men's
Yeah, it's kind of in uh, I might have just implied that I wear women's underwear
Um, yeah, I met a I met a guy from AMD here
While I was on my trip and he was showing off all his his AMD drip
Um, and he had like AMD branded socks Wow, and he had a actually very sharp looking
AMD branded dress shirt that had the AMD logo on the collar. Oh, yeah, actually very good
And then I pointed out like yeah, you can't always tell these days, but I'm also dripped out in LTT stuff because like
You know at the time I was wearing the the tall black long sleeve. Yeah. Yeah, you can't tell that it's LTT merch
But it is uh, and then I I commented on about how even even my underwear was was company brand
Did he have underwear did he have AMD underwear? No, I didn't
Then we win. Yeah. Yeah And I have good news for you luke we may be close on socks
Really that is actually genuinely very exciting. Yeah. Um, man, okay
Tatiana the one and only tatiana may have found something it's not the same as the darn tuffs that I like
but what it is is very competitive in the ways that
um, I care about and maybe
Maybe even a little bit better in some ways. I didn't know I cared about so we'll um
We're gonna see we're gonna see We'll see
Yeah, she now we just like she leaked like three projects when she came on the 16 the sweets double sweet 16 stream
It was it was crazy. It was crazy. I was like I was I was this close to filing a union grievance
This close that is my job
You can't you can't take my job Um, yeah, we just we just need footwear now and then then I'll be able to be 100 LTT products
Just duct tape the plastic bags to your feet. All right. Sorry Dan. I totally interrupted. Oh my god
We're up to 17 merch messages per minute. It has doubled in the last like two minutes. Yeah
Hello, my parents what you get for saying you have it under control. I got it under control. Sorry Dan. It's the delay
Sorry Dan, it's the delay. I didn't mean to interrupt. I got it
Hello, there's no actual delay between me and Dan. I'm just doing this to mess with them. All right. I'm gonna screw with Linus
I know how to do that Try and talk now
No Oh, you put an echo on me dude, that will not stop me at all. You wouldn't believe. Oh my gosh. You're super capable of doing that
Dude, that's not I ran WAN Show. I used to be the producer of WAN Show
Of course So I ran WAN Show while hosting WAN Show with delayed audio in my ears for years
Dude, you cannot do anything to me. I can sing in harmony. I can barely let's go
I can barely talk with any sort of like delay around 150. Anyway, here is a merch message for you
Yeah, this one is hello, my parasocial friends in quotations. Hello, Dan rams us all today
Lenny face Also, Luke, how's the food at this side of the pond? Any other funny or nice things happening in the land of baguette?
Uh, no, food's amazing. Um, funny things happening. I don't think there's been a lot of particularly funny things happening
um I went snowboarding the alps that was fun sick
It's been it's been a great trip so far Um, so you went all the way to france so that you could go to switzerland
Wow, way to betray. No way to betray your french lineage. Way to betray your french lineage mister. Yeah friend. Yeah
Oh, dude, I've been roasted so hard for that the whole time. I've been here
Oh, I bet anytime anyone figures out my last name after I've already made it clear that
I can't speak french. They're like, what are you doing?
Especially because especially at that point in time they assume i'm american and then i'm like, no, i'm from canada and they're like, that's worse
So, I don't know. I mean, that's fair, but I mean if you are american
Then I guess I can understand
Terrible canadian I mean the consistency of which I've been roasted for that as well. I was at a christmas market
Technically tonight, I guess. I don't know whatever
And and I was shopping and and the the lady was like, oh, where are you from and I was like canada
And she started roasting me before she even knew what my last name was Then I went to go pay and she saw my name on my card and she was like, what?
Yeah
Yeah, get good scrub. Um, all right, what are what are we supposed to be doing right now?
Uh, more topics. Sure. Let's do a topic. Oh, dude, dude, wait, can you can you?
Okay, okay. Oh, dude, this is amazing
In a first-of-its-kind lawsuit Sydney nicole giford is suing fellow amazon influencer elissa scheele for copyright infringement
and misappropriation of likeness
Both create content in the clean girl aesthetic
characterized by neutral colors minimalist decor and a focus on
self-care But giford alleges that scheele has harmed her earnings by copying her content including
Featuring the same types of products posting similar poses and outfits
matching specific frames of her videos and even getting a similar flower tattoo on her left bicep
just like giford Scheele denies copying giford and claims that the similarities in their content
Are due to the nature of the amazon influencer program and the prevalence of the clean girl aesthetic
She argues that many influencers feature the same products and that giford style is not unique
Kind of own-golling with that one. IMO says riley
Sorry, that's he added that to my notes Legal experts suggest that giford's case faces challenges because copyright law offers limited protection for the type of content she creates
Given the generic nature of many of the images and lack of exact exact replications similarities may not be sufficient to prove
infringing Our discussion question is what are the boundaries of intellectual property in the influencer industry where repeating trends is kind of part of the culture like like means
Could we sue another youtuber for making junkyard wars? For example, wait, oops. That's the us version of the uk show scrap heap challenge
Which we actually did realize when we named our things scrapyard wars
But hey, at least it's not quite the same thing now
everything that I said everything that I said just now is is sort of
Hard to wrap your brain around Until you actually look at the content. So I'm gonna I'm gonna pull these guys up. Hold on
Uh, here we go. I'm gonna pull up the one and then I'm gonna pull up the other one
And it is worth. I know that people have some thoughts on the verge or whatever
Um It is worth firing up the verge. I'm gonna uh Dan. Can you share the article with people?
It's worth firing up the verge and reading this article. It's a long read
But just look put your put your subway surfers aside for a little bit
And read it because it is sort of mind-blowing. It's it's an outstanding piece of journalism
and Hold on. I'm just trying to control f
Crying on a Sydney. There we go. Uh, it's an outstanding piece of journalism because it manages to tell
Both sides of the story in a way that I think is
Shockingly unbiased because if you're anything like me, you're gonna look at these two
And you're just gonna kind of go Okay
Oh Just find the stupid thing here. Okay, here we go. You're gonna look at these two and you're just gonna go
Yeah, how could anyone
be more generic than this
And how could one painfully generic person
Um, accuse another painfully generic person
Of like stealing their vibe
When when this is it, I mean I
Oh man, I told myself that when we covered this I was gonna try to stay neutral
But like my god, you didn't create the products like their color palette
Yeah, you didn't you didn't create any of these products. Do you understand do you understand where?
That took me way too long Sorry, do you understand
Where products come from? Okay?
Because it wasn't from you. It wasn't from your instagram page
It was from a company somewhere that engaged a manufacturer
Somewhere built a spec for a product and created it and if it exists on amazon, there are literally
I promise you the minimum order quantity for them is thousands of units. There are literally
Thousands of them that exist before you ever touched it
How can you possibly how can you possibly say that someone is like that someone is infringing on you
By featuring the same Like purse or whatever
I am I am beyond
I am beyond words on this whole vibe
um Anyone is telling us to check examples from the verge article
But I would recommend that people just go look at the verge article themselves
The the main thing that sends out to me is is probably the um the ARM tattoo
If those are actually super similar that could be getting kind of weird
They're in the same spot, but let's be realistic. There are not that many
Um, there are not that many spots that like people put tattoos
Uh, I will show just the tattoo one tattoo though. I'll show just the tattoo here
No, not really
Rose and definitely similar dandelions. Yeah, it's in like kind of a similar spot
But like and it's a similar style Like look if I got a tramp stamp would one of them accuse me of copying them like
A second one I'm not saying Like an enlarged one
I'm not saying that either of them has one I I I doubt that tramp stamp is part of the clean girl aesthetic if anything the opposite
But like my point is just that there's a finite number of like trendy places that people put tattoos
And I don't think that you can lay claim to putting a mark on a particular spot on your body
Like there's only so many of them
Yeah, and me chaos says tattoo fads are definitely a thing and it's like
I don't I don't know man Like I just even and and you know what there's like I said the article's really good
And it does a good job of allowing them to kind of lay out what they think is
It should be protected about their business But I got to say as someone who's in the influencer game
Even though, you know a lot of what we do is more akin to vlogging or reviewing as someone who definitely
participates in
Affiliate programs
Honey what you do ain't unique
And if someone's copying your stoyle Then that's good and keep innovating
I've been doing this for one of them one of them is 24. Okay. I have been doing this
since More than half the time they've been alive. I have been doing this since since the one of them was seven years old
And let me tell you What you did when you first started it's not gonna work today and what you're doing today is not gonna work tomorrow
Platforms come and go content formats come and go visual styles come and go
You probably shouldn't have gotten that tattoo because
You know now you've marked yourself as like, you know
Gen Z or whatever no in all seriousness get whatever tattoos you want the point is just that
Everything is impermanent and if you expect like your signature tattoo
To be like a thing and stay fresh and hip forever
You got another thing coming that is not how this works. I'm sorry
Yeah
Next topic Yeah, let's do it
Anyway, read the article. It's really good. It's probably the best piece that I've read on the verge in
Years Yeah, we don't want to cannibalize other people's stuff. So just go go check it out yourself. Um
Okay, do you want to talk about the hold on there's one there's one thing I'm gonna read off of it first
This is really funny. It's like the the the what is it the byline the sub headline? I don't know. I don't come from print
Um one amazon influencer makes a living posting content from her beige home
But after she noticed another account hawking the same minimal aesthetic
A rivalry spiraled into a first of its kind lawsuit
Can the legal system protect the vibe of a creator?
And what if that vibe is basic?
I Should call her a basic bitch without saying it. I love it
That's actually pretty good Anyway, it's it's great. It's great because there's this undertone of like
Okay, this is all ridiculous, right like emperors emperors new clothes like we all we all know this is ridiculous, right?
But she tackles the subject matter with such
um energy And and and like almost like doe-eyed innocence like I like I don't know that this is ridiculous that you have to admire it
It's it's a really stylish article. It's really good
Okay. All right. Sorry. Luke go ahead speaking of really good articles
Oh, okay. Good. That's a good intro. So Linus Linus just dropped this in the uh in the topic suggestion chat
With no context and I had no idea like, okay, is he gonna try to is he he's gonna try to roast us or what's the what's the plan here?
Um The intro at the beginning of this show seemed positive. So that's cool. But yeah, I thought this was a great
Uh, this was not my idea. I thought this was a great idea. Um, lucas, you know needed a fantastic job
But yeah, what what do you what do you want to discuss in particular?
I just want to talk about how the lab is quietly doing some really cool stuff and a massive shout out ony and lucas
And this is pretty cool on lttlabs.com. I came across this completely organically
Someone actually linked it to me on social media. I did not I did not go to like my own website
I own and see it. I like someone sent it to me. Um, and it's really cool
When we tested the Corsair sf8 50l power supply, we noticed that both the box and Corsair's website
Said it was 80 plus gold certified
However, when we checked clear results database, it was actually rated as platinum
How interesting of a thing is that
why on this green earth
Would Corsair a company that Allegedly likes to sell you products
rate their product gold When the certifying body that tested it says it's platinum
A higher efficiency standard. This is such an interesting question and is exactly this is
Exactly what the point of the f***ing lab is
This is this is the this is the whole point. This is why this is why we needed to test it
Okay, so this is super cool. Um, anyway, naturally we reached out to Corsair to ask why
But before we dive into okay, so we we do a little explanation of uh, gold silver and bronze
We talk about what efficiency means. It's a really nice little primer
You know like used to exist back in the day of like written, you know
Articles and stuff. I'm coming back to it. Boom blue balls. Go read it
Yeah, it's we we did some tuning. Um, we're still trying to learn
About white writing for web, right? Like it's different like and and also the lab site is a little bit different
Like something that I've been kind of trained on almost is when I'm reading articles if I see a link in an article
I'm going to expect that it's probably not linking to me what I actually want
I don't know if you've experienced this But I've experienced a lot of whenever there's a link in an article
They find some way to shoehorn it into linking to their own site no matter what even if it makes no sense
And ours are just like the link that you would expect it to be so like when you opened the I think it was the the clear
Yeah, it actually went to clear's website instead of just like a backlink to our own website
Um, so we're trying to be legit in that way. There is actually no functional way for us to profit off of the blogs right now
Um, nice. There's no ads on them. There's none. There's nothing like that. So, um, we're just genuinely actually trying to make them really good
Um, super cool I think they're good. Yeah, check it out. Yeah
And I would like to point out that the whole like power supply circuit thing
Kind of working check this out. Okay
Recent video from four days ago 880 views 880 people watch that
That's that's I know that's not a w but relax. Hold on a second. Let's go back a little bit
This is why this exists. Let's look at everything from around a month ago. Oh 2000 2000
two and a half thousand 2000 views. Okay, let's go back a little bit farther. Let's go back a little bit farther
four and a half thousand Two and a half thousand three thousand one and a half four point seven thousand
Six point two thousand That's what these videos are for they're meant to be a resource and we're building we're building a library
And you know what the thing is libraries are built a book at a time. So it's going to take time
But in time guys This is it
This is the library of how good a power supply is and I'm I'm just I'm extremely happy. I'm extremely excited
For uh, for the work that those guys are doing. This is freaking awesome
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All right, merch messages and a bug now apparently three merch messages. All right hit me Dan sure
Hey, dinos luke and land with LMG's address being public and having held events at the studio
Have you had disruptive fans? Have you had to put on extra focus on employee safety?
Um, that's a really good question. You know what for the most part our community is
Extremely respectful of our personal boundaries. Uh, we have signs up outside
We've talked about it on the wandshow
There have been a couple of notable exceptions where people think that because they're here
They are entitled to you know an audience of some sort and the reality of it is that in our business
That's a safety issue. Um, and that's just not something that we can entertain
We have processes for these kinds of things. Uh, don't show up here. You won't get a tour. You won't get
You won't get a selfie like it. It doesn't work like that. Um, and no, it's it's a really good question
But overall people have been super super respectful and actually
We have found that there has been a reduction in interest in our location and interest in
Uh in infringing on our privacy ever since we
He almost dropped it Dan
Um infringing on our privacy. We brought it up. I thought you were taking it away. What are you doing?
What did you do? It had what in it?
He says they had animals in it. What is what is happening? Am I missing something?
Sorry, it happens. The bug that was crawling around all over it. Oh, okay
No, what note is this somewhere else? Uh, cool. What was I talking about? Right? Sorry to interrupt. Yeah
So actually people have been better about it ever since we just published our address
on google maps Like it's it's one of those things where it takes a ton of the intrigue out of it
Like I like you kind of sucked back in the house people people were trying to
Come by like we were a way smaller channel back then and people would try to come by more often. Um
Yeah, I spoofed him says regarding the security issue if I travel from new zealand
Can I inquire about looking around the studios and pre-arranging a time for this?
Unfortunately, the answer is no. We do meet-ups and we do tours sometimes
We've done it as part of LTX for example, but other than that the answer has to be no because
No disrespect, but I don't know who you are right
And when we're not set up for it We're not set up for it and we can't be set up for that kind of thing every day. This is an office
This is a it's a production studio. We're we're working right? We um
We we do have fun. I think we genuinely have fun sometimes
But we have a job to do and we can't have random disruptions like that
Uh, Tony B 486 says the White House gives tours. Well good for them
Um, I hear if you go in january, it's it's like free
Okay
Uh, no key 1119 says Linus, I'm curious you mentioned earlier in the show about conflicting with sponsors
Does this also apply to framework and laptop sponsor spots?
I gotta tell you I am surprised at how few f***s
Our laptop partners have given about the framework
investment I think
In about the like two to six weeks
After I announced the investment
I had a couple laptop sponsors kind of go
Like is this going to affect your coverage of us and our ability to work with you in a sponsored capacity in any way
And I don't think a single deal was so much as delayed
by it like literally
No offense to framework. I love framework. I love their mission
I am invested personally in framework and the success of their mission
The rest of the industry Does not even acknowledge the existence of framework zero f***s zero like whatever
um I don't think
They see framework as a competitor. I don't think framework has competitors
Framework has a product that is very unique and very framework
Which is a really cool thing that they've managed to do in such a commodity space as as as laptops, right?
Like that that's incredible to build a laptop in this day and age that actually has a unique
identity and and value and story
That's And I mean story without getting into some cheesy thing about how every one of them is made out of some rock that you found on a
Mountain or something right like like a real story. I think that's really incredible
um but It's a really small niche and I just I just don't think that the main manufacturers acknowledge it
um, I hope that that that changes someday, but
I I don't know if I see a path to that right now. I mean
I hope I hope though That's yeah, that's all I have to say about that and I don't think that um, and I don't think that
As much speculation as there might be about my biases or whatever else
I don't think that I've shown any bias in favor of framework. I go out of my in fact if anything
I treat them very much like the coach's son um, I go out of my way to be to to
scrutinize them So that I will not be perceived as having a bias which is actually a bias of sorts
But it's not the kind that anyone gets mad at me about so I guess it's fine
Yeah
If you're gonna have one that's probably the the better one to have. Oh, that's the safer one to have because
it's so much easier for us to uh
It's so much easier for us to just kind of put on our like well if anything I go hard at them shield, right?
And it's like well, yeah, what do you get like you can be you can be like mad about your perceived conflict or whatever else
But the reality of it is I'm still gonna promote LG. I'm still
Uh
Still gonna daily my snapdragon machine from hp like
There we go Whatever No, did you think my audio cut out?
Oh, apparently he's fixing something with Dan in the background. All right, cool. No, I just I just stopped
I just stopped talking mid-sense mid-sentence. I ain't doing nothing. Um, what is beeping though? I don't know
Yeah, do I have another merge message? Um
Okay Hello everyone been a long time enjoyer of the show question for Linus working with engineers
What have you learned or became interested in I'm hoping to study outside of school to become one
Oh man, almost every talking to someone who is knowledgeable and passionate about just about
Anything is super interesting I never thought that I would care and I'm talking about Tatiana's spot on the sweet double sweet 16 stream again
I never thought that I would care about fabric weights and composition
But you talk to somebody like that about it and you're like dang this is cool
You know, and it's and it's the same, you know, you talk to you talk to someone like tinen
Uh, and I'll use a non-work example. You know tinen's
No, I'm not okay. I don't want to give away any personal information, but tinen knows a lot about um rehabilitation
uh equipment and uh, like workplace ergonomic equipment
He knows a lot about that. I'm not going to explain why and talking to him about that stuff. It's just like
It's cool. There's there's there's so much more to like like rehab than just, you know, taking it easy or whatever else
Um, I'm trying I'm trying to think of like oh man I they never let me talk to uh, Nate in merch meeting because the project that he's working on is a very long-term project
And the reality of it is that I don't really need to I don't really need to talk to him for him to keep working on it
But um, but I love talking to Nate about it because he I think believes
extremely strongly in the product that he's building for LTT Store right now and is genuinely excited about
Telling me about the the roadblocks that he's able to overcome and and some of the exciting features that we might be able to have and just
Everything everything is cool when you dig deep enough into it. Um
Or maybe it isn't but if it isn't for you then I think you know
You got to learn to be curious. I think you I think you genuinely have to learn to be curious
I don't think that everyone Naturally
Has the uh, the the instinct or the impulse to ask a follow-up question
And uh, because if they if they did then everyone would have you know, the same coverage say for example of a of a new news story
But if someone else is as deeper, it's because they they had the curiosity to to ask another question
And I think that's something that you have to practice
You think do you think that's a modern thing?
Do you think that's because of The internet no, no, I don't think so. I think that if anything like
Literacy should have made us more curious
If anything I think and I think that historically our
Our capacity for exploration and and and digging deeper into things was was lower
I think we were I think as a species we accepted
easy answers without the same critical thought that
Largely people At least to attempt to give it today
Yeah, yeah, sure enough Um, all right. Well, sorry, what are we supposed to be doing Dan?
One more merch message and then we're moving on to more topics neat. Okay. Sure. Thanks for the whan show
I love listening every week I teach at a digital art high school
What tips could you give for throwing a small land party? Maybe 20 to 50 students and maybe some specific games that would work. Well, well first things first
I can tell you that 20 to 50 is a big range
20 is a reasonable size land party. I would say that's a medium-sized land party 50 is big
So you are yeah, 50 is a freaking lot to coordinate because as soon as it's bigger than a lobby
Right as soon as it's bigger than one lobby All of a sudden it's either like free for all
And people are just playing world of warcraft on their computers over in that corner and they're doing whatever over there
or You are like managing
multiple events, right because almost there's almost nothing where you're gonna have 50 people playing concurrently at the same time
Um, so what I would say is I would say limit your seat count to some decide on your games
And then limit your seat count to something that you can actually
Manage and if you can I would publish the games and schedule that you're planning to play ahead of time
People will hate it They'll be mad about it that you're just like this is the game
We're playing from this time to this time and this is the next game we're playing and this is the next game
We're playing but when the event is done, they will have had way more fun
And they like won't know why um
The other good thing about doing like a like a 16 seat or something like that like 8 to 12 to 16
Is that managing power is going to be a lot easier
Like you can probably do about
Three computers per circuit if you're in north america maybe four or five if you're if you're over in europe
um When you have like 50 people now you're talking like you you have to drag
Extension cords from every corner of the house or the facility in order to power all these computers
Uh, when you when you just have like 12 people you're dragging like
Three or four circuits over and you're gonna have a lot fewer like blown circuit breakers
That was gonna be my biggest point is when you start getting to numbers like 50
You're now like investing in infrastructure instead of just
Yeah having some buddies over and maybe buying like a a network switch a very cheap switch when you're at 50 you're you're
you know tables chairs power delivery
Yeah networking I mean they work at a school so presumably they have tables and chairs, but
Okay, yeah, that helps
They ask for specific games luke what are your favorite land party games?
Um, I mentioned savage if it's it's incredibly old at this point
But if you can if you can somehow acquire isos
Um, because I don't know if there's any other way to get it genuinely
Um, it's a great game for when you have
Very large groups of people and you want everyone to play the same game
Especially if you have separate rooms of people and you want people to play the same game
Especially if you're at a school and one of the desks has like a projector screen
So you can have your like commander player with the projector screen and then everyone else's individual units
It's like actually sensational for that specific use case
Outside of that. I don't know all the classic things
I think halo c is just genuinely a really good land game
Um, I think counter strike if you limit it to people that don't actively play is a really good land game
Jumping in a giant tf2 lobby can be a lot of fun
That's very fun. Yeah, you can you can spark servers that way
So if you don't necessarily have enough people to
Make a game like tf2 fun just within your land
If you have enough people to make the server look active
you can Jump into a a type that you want. So you want like
24 seven Gold rush or whatever it's called you could like jump in there
And then you have enough people in there that other people will join the server as well, which is cool
Um, we've got to play that first game savage We've got to play that at the first whale land because you've told me about it so many times and I've never played it
It's it was old when I used to play it and I used to play it when I was in university. So it's like
It's pretty old at this point. Um
But it's it's yeah, if you if you have two like commander
projector screen type people because basically one player on each team plays an rts
And everyone else on those teams plays essentially
Uh an FPS. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. There's savage resurrection
What's that from eight coverage from eight years ago?
Oh, yeah, I don't know
Here what is this so this video is from the war owl has a quarter million views
Uh, I know that creator. Yeah This video is a paid promotion by s2 games for savage resurrection
So it must be a cult classic from the tail end of the second golden age of gaming returns with savage resurrection
Was ahead of its time in 2003. Well today is today savage has returned
So here it is. Yeah, apparently there's a relatively modern savage luke
Interest on no idea. Yeah
We're gonna have to try it. I don't know if it's any good, but we'll definitely have to try it
I'm gonna here. I'll click. I'll click. I'll go to the steam stores. Oh reviews mixed
Don't be a death sentence. Don't be misguided by the positive reviews. This game is dead
There's no one online and no single player content devs made it pretty clear
They won't be supporting this game anymore. Do not buy this is from september of 2016
I mean that makes sense. That makes sense by that at all
Uh, yeah So
Yeah, uh Like the first savage even I remember when when someone was talking to me about it. I was like, how does this make any sense?
like this this Almost isn't viable outside of
Land parties at schools. Like how is this game? How is this game possibly viable at all?
Notice at the request of the publisher Savage resurrection is unlisted on steam and will not appear in search. So this game is actually
Dead, can you buy can you buy a game that's unlisted though?
I actually don't know and i'm not uh, i'm not logged into steam on this computer. So i'm i'm kind of curious now
We're gonna we're gonna have to try it right now on the website
It doesn't You can't buy it
Man, this is man. This is sad
The fact that games just are removed from storefronts and the and the and that's it
So sad Apparently there's also savage XR
So it's a 16 v 16 game with human commanders. So I I think that means
I don't think that 34 players 15 versus 15 and then commanders either way. That's pretty cool
Yeah, apparently savage XR is something as well
What's that Savage XR download the rts and FPS game
Uh Okay, uh, well, this is a website
Um, the first the free real-time strategy shooter for Windows Linux and mac play for free
Be a commander or a warrior six savage XR the successor of the 2000s read the battle from new earth takes the best game. Yeah
interesting Okay Well, um, cool. That's probably that's probably worth checking out at some point. Maybe I don't know
Nice website though. Yeah, both their publishers or their developers still doing anything or not. I do know that, um
When there was that big rush for like dota style games
They I'm pretty sure they were the ones that made heroes of new earth because I think savage was yes savage the battle for new earth
um There's some some random history there
All right games.com. Let's see. Why don't we do our next topic?
Hmm gaming in the usa is about to get terrifable
Yeah, I know, um On november 25th president elect trump promised a flat 25 tariff on goods coming into america from both canada and mexico
As well as a 10 tariff on goods from china
Uh, some examples of things the us imports from these countries are about 60 of their, uh,
Crude import, uh, crude oil imports those come from canada
Almost a billion dollars worth of sugar from mexico, but probably more relevant to our audience a lot of tech products from china
Uh, for example, the xbox series x is almost entirely manufactured in china as well as a ton of pc components
discussion question here is Would manufacturing move back to the usa to help circumvent these tariffs?
And we uh, probably aren't going to get into a ton of detail on this on wancho because
We have a full video coming about this
Over the next little bit. Um, I think it's oh actually it's coming out on sunday. We basically kind of dive into
The politics aside math is math. Um
Why this is going to affect prices at the till and uh, why
Now may be a good time to kind of jump on a new pc or some some new electronics
Our other discussion question though is do you see any side effects from this?
Either positive or negative other than just
Higher priced electronics and one of the examples is riley had an interesting take where
Or he saw an interesting take where maybe subscription based gaming services
Could boom because people don't want to buy the hardware
But wouldn't be paying a tariff tax
On something like g-force now
Could we see like an unexpected
Benefactor or not benefactor a beneficiary of this
Could do you think things like g-force now might go up in price though as they have to pay more for their hardware?
um, no because my understanding is NVIDIA does a lot of their manufacturing with um, uh
With foxconn in taiwan don't quote me on it being in taiwan
But i'm pretty sure that NVIDIA's first party cards are not manufactured in china
Which is why founders additions were so cheap last time around
ah Okay, yeah, so just because NVIDIA's saving on tariffs on their cards doesn't mean that their retail price will necessarily be reasonable
But what it does mean is that their costs are fine. So they'd be happy to lease you those cards
Yeah, if they see the competition going more expensive because of tariffs, they'll just go with them probably
Well, we talk about that in the video how even if you've moved your manufacturing out if the competitive landscape shifts and
I don't know everyone's paying this price anyway. You just hey, thanks for the margin
Uh, so we we kind of get into the the corporate logic that accompanies the decision-making process that leads to things like shrinkflation and uh, just
generally Generally
Did you guys talk about the whole like, um, I don't know the proper terminology for it
But when there's effectively a shell company in a country that's not being tariffed
And you know, we didn't talk about that to them ship it to them and then then they sell it to the states
Yeah, we we didn't talk about that. Um, we basically just
Focused on the very very very simple dumbed-down version of just like hey
when costs go up price go up
because As much as that may be common sense, um to a lot of people
It seems like there are some people
who don't that
I mean, there's a lot of people that didn't even know what tariffs are so
Yeah, it was really uh, if you have you looked at the google trends
No, oh, this is really funny. Um, check this out
Hold on hold on wait for it wait for it
Check this out you're gonna love this Uh, let's look at let's look at the past 90 days for no particular reason
um Interest over time for search term tariffs
spiked on
You guessed it november 26th. I wonder why
I want what what's that spike before it? What's that one? I don't remember november the 8th
It reached its uh 61 percent of its november 26 high
Pretty funny
Very interesting Yep, so or wait. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry point of clarification
um The the the rise sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I do know the answer to that
The rise after The after this is really funny after the election was people being like wait, what?
And then this was uh, the recent announcement
Uh, gotcha. Yeah Yeah, it's pretty uh, pretty good pretty good. Um, yeah
So there was like a big peak in the lead up to the election and then like uh, a bunch of people figuring out after the election what tariffs were
Oh All right, so that's uh, that's something so uh, yeah, good luck everybody should be good. Um
Yep, cool. Uh, anyway, yeah, so we have a video coming on that
Uh, what what what else we oh, here's a big topic
XOS has entered early access beta. So luke
Uh esh tech. This is the nas software company. This is this is my second
My second investment. Uh, and this one was at a very different stage
This was like like angel level like like first money into the company that is not from the devs directly
um Esh tech the nas software company that I've personally invested in announced yesterday thursday the 28th that hexos is going into early access beta
We actually have a full video coming tomorrow. That is the first time that I saw it
I gave them the money two years ago. Can you believe it's been two years?
Two years ago and in that two years
I literally didn't see it other than a couple little like
Mockups of what the vibe was going to be like I hadn't
Gotten to try it at all Jake got to try it before I got to try it
He got on a call with john john got him all set up with the beta and he like
Set it up and got some demos ready for us to do this video. So that video the video coming tomorrow is me
fresh eyes hadn't seen it before
Getting to experience hexos and have some idea if they have a shot
at all Pretty exciting
To celebrate the launch esh tech is offering their lifetime license. I talked to them about lifetime license. I was like look
I understand subscriptions are the way of the future. They're the they support developers. They actually genuinely do not every company
is all about just like Ringing as much blood from their customer stone as possible through subscriptions
Sometimes it's just about having a sustainable business model. I get that but I told them it was very important to me
That a lifetime license would exist. They have taken that extremely seriously a lifetime license will exist
It will be three hundred dollars per machine
later Right now It is
99 dollars. It's a hundred dollars Which is kind of nuts
Well, remember people are taking a risk alerted that
People are taking a risk though. Yeah, esh tech is a brand new company. Literally brand new company. They just went out of hiding
And maybe they don't exist in the future, right? We acknowledge that in the video and we talk about, you know, what the mitigations would be for that, right?
um A hundred dollars is a lot to give something that is early access and
Something that we've talked about a lot on this channel pre-ordering, right? But there are mitigations
So one is that it's built on top of true nas So even if they were to disappear you would still have a true nas nas that's still true nas
And number two is that they're offering a 30 day trial period where they will offer a refund if you're not happy with the product
so that Helps a lot
Um So, yeah 99 dollars for black friday. Uh, that will be available until
December the second after that Early access to the lifetime license will be 200 dollars
Uh, so yeah, the video is going to go into a lot more detail But the goal of hexos is to focus on creating a user friendly and simple interface
So anyone who could set up who anyone who could install Windows xp should be able to install configure and use
hexos Is is basically where we're at actually maybe a little better than Windows xp is is what we would strive for and that doesn't just include
Like file sharing That should include things like buddy backup, which we'll talk about in the video
That should include things like setting up apps
Whether it's like plex or image some of those just are like needlessly obtuse
To set up and get working just to have the the the basic functionality that you want going and there's been kind of two takes
There's been two takes on this Uh, one of the takes i've seen is this is stupid, right?
Like what it's just a skin for trunas like i already have trunas
Like they sorry they want how many hundreds of dollars?
and then the other take from people who
Don't post on reddit has been to throw money at ftech
To say that they've had a pretty Good initial launch would be a gross understatement because as it turns out the number of people that want the
The reliability and the trustworthiness of trunas
But don't want to faff about with arcane permissions and processes on trunas is actually
Pretty big So it's it's been an exciting couple of days for those guys and uh, yeah
I'm extremely proud of them really happy for them
It's it's it's pretty exciting elijah actually has a comment in here He says won't lie kind of bummed out seeing how many people missed the point of this software and just immediately complained about the price
Personally, I think 300 bucks is totally fine for a lifetime license to software
Especially because I spent over an hour trying to figure out plex on my trunas setup law
Uh, and then highlighted a comment that in particular made him upset
But I'm not even going to bother reading the comment because uh, it's okay. I'll read one part of the comment
It said just get a q-nap for a little bit more. It's like right, but that q-nap you can't upgrade
That's that's how they get you that's the subscription
Is if you ever want more bays or if you ever want a decent amount of processing power, you're gonna have to buy a new one
Software baby software
So yeah, pretty exciting People have a lot of pretty good questions
Yeah, robotech robotech asks can hex us run offline without any connection to their deck login
That was something that they bunged up in their initial messaging for the product
Right now you have to connect to the cloud dashboard, but at launch
They will have a local only dashboard
And the reason for that should actually buy things on a promise of features. Yes. Yes
yes that but I
Believe that they have heard the community and understand the importance of local management
I mean, I told them the same thing I actually found out about the lack of local management from that interview
Um, and I was like, yo I wouldn't use it
If it couldn't be accessed without an internet connection and they're like, okay, that's for sure. Yeah
Um Roy saw asks does the lifetime membership include all feature updates to my knowledge
It does the best thing to do though would be to go
To the hexos website So it's a hexos.com h-e-x-o-s dot com
Uh, there's some there's some things that are still a little bit hard to like, uh, in the text right above the deal
This has get early access to hexos beta and limited access to hexos and all its core features
asterisk So they will add new features that may be paid features
Because some of the features that they add are going to have costs on their side. So they're doing some
Like okay, uh, yeah, you don't use home assistant But for any of you out there who use home assistant, for instance, you can set up home assistant
for Unpaid remote access Or you can pay them a subscription and they make it way
Simpler they streamline the remote access process and the reason that you have to pay a very very reasonable subscription fee for that
Is that there are infrastructure costs on their end to maintain it?
So I think the reason for the asterisk is that they will introduce features in the future that will be paid features because
There's ongoing costs. You will not get anything that has an ongoing cost
For example, if they were to have a yeah, go ahead
I completely agree with what you're saying the problem The problem in my opinion is the wording doesn't sound like that
Uh, the asterisk says some features will not immediately be available in hexos beta
But a lifetime license grants you access to all features of hexos forever
Including con base backup premium support services and other metered services, which makes it
sound You know considering it says
All features including other metered services. It sounds like quite literally everything is included forever to any degree
Which doesn't seem legit because that doesn't make any sense in my opinion
But I'm trying to find a way that sounds like that I'm trying to find their forum
It's hub dot hexos dot com if you guys have any questions
That's by far the best place to post it because like I said the first time I saw hexos was like a week ago when we filmed that video
So take everything that I'm saying for what it is
Everything that I'm saying for what it is
Did I just dyslexia word? Oh
Oh Okay, that makes a lot more sense
Freaking me out of here because that really did sound pretty bad
I was like that makes no sense and that makes sense because it didn't make any sense because I read it wrong
Excluding all the things that wouldn't make sense like cloud-based backup premium support services and other metered services. Okay, good
Anyway, the last thing that I wanted to say about hexos is that the cool the coolest part of this project is that the other investor is x systems
um And if you don't know who x systems is here's a hint
They make true nas
Oh, wow no way. Yeah That's kind of cool actually
Yeah, so this is one of those things where I feel like a lot of people have gone
Why would I want hexos? I've true. Well, yeah
If you know how to admit true nas then by all means no one's telling you that you like if you don't need the handholding then that's fine
But what I suspect is that for every one vocal person
For every one vocal person who is uh, saying like this is stupid. I I'll just roll true nas
There's probably a hundred people who have no interest in learning true nas
True nas is an enterprise tool True nas is not designed for home users and it it never as far as I can tell
Based on that I've given them a lot of the feedback that I gave to the hexos team about what hexos should look like and they haven't implemented it
True nas is never going to be a consumer tool and the fact that they invested in hexos seems to be acknowledgement of that
They know they have a great product a stable product a good product
But it isn't this product and they were like, okay Well, we could just invest in this product and then we have a piece of it and then they can make it
That's cool. By the way, john for john from ash tech is texting me. He's like, oh my god, luke
stop I just saw it
Oh
Yeah, he's like, what the f***
Blow it up my phone
Well, if it's any consolation, I'm just like buying it right now. So I'm I'm paying for my mistake. All right, okay
I think he'll get over it then Um, anyway, cool. So I'm I'm really excited about it
Really proud of what the team has done. You guys are gonna see it in way more detail tomorrow
Um, it's it's the product that only exists because
John and Eric the founders and I
share this belief That a diy nas shouldn't be hard
You shouldn't have to understand like
Like what what's the what is it acl like the the access control permissions thing? I still don't understand acl
Yeah, you you shouldn't it's so hard. You shouldn't have to understand acl to set up a plexa container
You shouldn't have to you should just Like the the funny thing is is a lot of these a lot of these nas platforms like they have an app store
But they have fundamentally failed to understand
What makes the app store and when I say the app store, I mean apple's app store
They have fundamentally misunderstood what makes the app store the app store
One click that's what makes something an app store
That's the s that's the aspiration And you know what there's going to be stuff that's going to still be challenging on xos because you can't do anything
About you know, how an open source developer of a particular app or container
implements it you can't you can't You can't be in charge of that, but what you can do is you can create tutorials
What you can do is you can simplify as many things as possible
I mean even Jake he was telling me about this just like off camera before we even started this project
He's like, yeah, dude. I looked at image like on a weekend and I was like
Nope And he went back and he figured it out later because he likes a challenge, but
He's the kind of person who literally does this stuff for fun and he's like
What are all these parameters? Why do I need all of this? I just I want my pictures from here to there. That's that's all I care about
Understanding what an average user actually cares about is something that I just I feel like a lot of
folks don't and and that's something that that the esh tech team is really passionate about
I would again
Yeah, I'm very excited about this If it if it if it's any consolation to john
Because I screwed up reading their site. I just bought it. So hopefully that helps
But he wants a pound of flesh to remember it's it's software and a beta right? He says buy two
He says buy two right now Don't don't listen don't listen to him. Don't listen once enough
Pay my pennants. Um, I'm only buying one but uh
I'm gonna I'm gonna probably use Linus as my as my buddy backup
Yeah, man, I told you I I told Jake. I wanted to do it as like an employee perk
Because we could like we could make a video about it and and like we could
Yeah, we could make a video about building like the cheapest petabyte or something like that
I think we'd have to cap certain people like Jake But but if we had like a buddy backup target at the office that would be an off-site backup
That wouldn't have an ongoing monthly cost and that's like that's the idea
That's the nirvana that I would I would think that making nas more accessible could achieve
And in the long term I could see them monetizing it
I could see them building their own like hex cloud or like hex token
Like and and I know as soon as you talk about tokens or coins or whatever everything gets real cringe
But hold on a second. That's an actual like like valid legitimate uses for it. Yeah
Super cool. Yeah I think uh, I think their payment portal might be having some trouble
Uh, yeah, it's probably it's not the first time I asked john how much I was allowed to share about the success that they've enjoyed over the last little bit
And he said you can say that our mail servers went down from the surge when we launched
Uh, and we've been blown away by the initial response and the first beta invites went out tonight
Yeah, very very good. Oh, yeah Great job. Also, it took a long time, but it did process it went through so like their stuff is working. Good job
Riley's comment is so funny. Okay. I'm going to read that comment that made elijah mad
It said with this $300 you can buy yourself a Linux course or book and it will be infinitely more useful throughout your life
It will teach you how containers work and you'll be able to install any Linux distribution of your choice
Install docker plus compose or podman plus quadlet or kubernetes and set up your own nas as a bonus. You'll have a marketable skill
Riley's comment on this is I ain't doing all that
Yeah, Riley's got it. Yeah, like I based Riley
That's just true Elijah says I made the exact same face luke. Elijah doesn't get it
Dude, it's so painful. I like
I don't know. I I deeply respect the whole home lab idea, especially for for it people
But some people don't want to do that And even people that want to you know do professional development in their own free time
You know, maybe they don't want to do professional development on that in particular
It's a crazy idea to some people that just because someone
Fixes their motorcycle doesn't mean they want to fix
Their washing machine just because someone fixes their washing machine and their motorcycle doesn't mean they want to fix their computer
There are things that I diy Like Dan loves this story about how I di wide putting new rubbers into my windshield wipers
So big because I didn't want to because I didn't want to like throw away the entire apparatus
And I read somewhere that you could just replace the rubber and it was it was a whole it was a whole ordeal
He loves that. Um, but the reality of it is when my you know, I'm trying to think of something
um When my garbarator dies
I'll probably just hire a plumber to come put it in I don't do everything myself because there are things that I'm passionate about or I want to learn about or that I'm interested in
Or that I have some requisite knowledge for Um, I'll I'll usually spend a little bit of time figuring it out myself like when I installed my ledwig bidet
I did that myself. I'm not going to hire a plumber to do something stupid like that
Like there's you know, everyone's got their limits and everyone's got their passion projects
But nobody has time to learn everything and some people just want to pick their battles and for some people that battle is not a
nas It ain't true nas
And that's okay And that's okay Like if you you know make enough money, you know riding surfboards and
Beautiful women or whatever that you can afford to hire someone else to fix your computer
Then like that's great And if and if you make enough money fixing computers that you can afford to
Buy a surfboard and wait. Okay. Hold on. This this breaks down a little bit. The point is just that
Some people are some people do
Sure
If you could okay, uh, the ftc the ftc is warning that a failure to commit to software support could be illegal
A new ftc report warns companies that failing to disclose how long they'll they'll offer official support for their products
May be illegal under the magnificent moss warranty act
The report has been praised by public interest groups concerned about software tethering
Which makes devices reliant on software updates from the manufacturer and companies randomly deciding to brick devices like the spotify car thing
The ftc examined 184 smart products and found that nearly 89 percent of manufacturers
Did not disclose this information on their product web pages
And if they do include it some manufacturers bury this information in specs support pages or footnotes
And some use ambiguous language like lifetime technical support
Failing to disclose software support information could violate the magnus and moss warranty act
Which requires warranties to include a clear description of what is covered. So hey, uh, ash tech john. I know you're watching right now
Make sure you're doing this Cool. Thanks. That's my investor advice
Uh, okay, it could also violate the ftc act if the omissions or misrepresentations about software support are likely to
lead consumers I don't know what to say other than lina kahn based
And i'm gonna be so sad to see her go and I really hope that all of these balls that she started rolling
Don't just immediately get destroyed
um Lina kahn we want you here in canada if you're tired of um, if you're tired of
What's Going to happen to all the great work that you and your organization have done over the last little while
That'd be sweet. You could come run it if you want. Yeah, honestly, I'd vote you. I'd vote. I'd vote immediately
Do we have the same Dude, do we have the same rules as the u.s. Where you like can't be prime minister if you're not
Naturally naturally born canadian like like you can't be president if you're not born in america
Can you be prime minister if not born again? I look that autocompleted
23 people have served as prime minister since the office came into existence in 1867 really only 23 people. Wow, okay
19 have been born in canada 4 have been born outside of canada including johnny mcdonald
It's kind of a like big deal prime minister or whatever. He's on our money. I don't actually know what he did pretty important
Um, I don't know. I think they should just take him off and put terry fox on the money, but that's just me
Dan wasn't talking into his mic, but he agrees
No, that came through actually Yeah, that's why I sit over here sometimes
That's why I sometimes yell really loud while i'm over here. So it just comes through your mics is a
Effect you need to be able to speak french. I don't know lina kahn's based enough that she could probably learn french
I think she'd figure it out. Yeah, I would like her more if she did. Yeah
Yeah, but you're british. I mean your biases your biases
Everyone is who isn't british is foreign. That's how it works. Someone posted on the subreddit again british
And I was like, yeah, but we like him anyway It's where the dry wit comes from one of those canadiens are the good ones. So don't push your luck
Intel's battle mage leaks Intel's latest GPU known as battle mage ark may be launching soon according to leaks
uh amazon leaks, that's a sentence fragment anyway, um
Leaks of pricing seem to fall in the 250 to 260 dollar range
With one leaker implying that there will only be desktop GPU's not discreet laptop GPU's this time around
discussion question Do you think with Intel having a rough year so far that this could be enough to get people excited for them again?
I I would be willing to get excited if the performance is really good in the 250 to 260 dollar range man. We need
A valid affordable GPU option
I need a valid option guys and and
It's talking about software support They have taken arc alchemist first gen arc from basically
unusable garbage to Actually working in the vast majority of games hardware unbox found that it worked in what was it 94 97 percent of games
He tested like over 250 games That's pretty good and the ones that didn't work a lot of them were like old random stuff
where he was basically trying to find stuff that it wouldn't work with and and
Often it was overcomable because the game wouldn't work properly because it would not detect an Intel GPU as a discreet GPU
And it would think you had on board because back when that game was made Intel discreet GPU wasn't even a twinkle in pat gelsinger's eye
so I Man, I really I really hope it's any good. I really hope it's any good
Um, that's it. I I hope it's any good. Um, finally ubidium is developing a risk five based universal processor
They're a semiconductor startup and have announced the development of a universal processor based on the risk five architecture
It's designed to handle a wide range of computing tasks, including CPU
GPU dsp And fpga functionalities now hold on just a gosh darn minute because this sounds like complete ho come to me
Because to be both a CPU and an fpga you would have to have like the efficiency and cost effectiveness of a CPU
and also Like the field programmability of an fpga because an fpga the opposite of that for the other one can be a CPU just fine
It's just like not a viable one It's not a cost effective one and they say they would do this all on a single chip
The universal processor is based on a workload agnostic micro architecture
That allows the same transistors to be reused for different processing tasks
Eliminating the need for multiple specialized cores
Okay, the company has built a proof-of-concept
emulation that shows its universal processor works
Allowing it to secure 3.7 million dollars in seed funding to produce a working prototype in 2025
It was founded by veterans from invidia Intel and texas instruments including cto martin vorbach ceo
hian shun chou and chairman peter weber vorbach spent 15 years developing the technology behind the universal processor
They plan to launch their first chips in 2026 eventually developing a complete portfolio of chips from small embedded devices to high performance computing systems
With their goal being to establish its universal processor as the new standard in the industry
I Find this very hard to believe, but I was excited enough
Reading What seems like nonsense gobbledygook to me that I was like I want this on wancho. That's where I'm at on this
Neat good chat Yeah, yeah
Um rest assured asks I don't know why server chips from Intel didn't have fpga sections years ago for
Specifically tuned functions and the answer is because they are so expensive and inefficient. There's oh expensive
Those okay. Here's a great example those little usb x fiber extender docs that I have from icron
Okay, you would think like what I don't know usb right usb over like
A cat six or a fiber cable or whatever like that shouldn't be that complicated, right?
Like the data rates aren't even that high. You can do 10 gig over a over a cat 6a cable
Surely you could do five gig. It's like well. Yeah, but it's completely different protocol. So, uh, are they expensive?
Yes, they are why Because everything in them is handled via fpga and they have to be high performance fpgas because of all the
Translation and tom foolery that's taking place is a super cool product very industrial product
It's meant for like if you need to run a bunch of like usb based cameras for machine vision or something
Over fiber or cat six cat six distances very cool product. I use them for workstations at home because
Um They sent them like I don't think I would pay that much to have usb. Why does it bolt exists?
Why doesn't fpga make them so much more expensive Linus?
Because in order to be field programmable
They have to be much much lower density and they have to be non specialized
And they have to be changeable. So the way that they're architected is just completely different from an asyc
um But what they allow is they allow low volume products like this like if this was an asyc
This thing would probably cost a third or a quarter as much But the reason that you can't do it with an asyc is because you would have to
You would have to do the rnd that's involved in taping out an asyc
And that cost you would never recoup from the number of these that you could possibly sell
so certain low volume products just never make it to
The non fpga stage like fpgas are often used for things like um rnd
For something that will become an asyc another example of an asyc-based product was um red digital cinemas red rocket cards
I don't know for a fact that it's an fpga. I don't think I ever popped the heatsink off of one
But I can tell you because it was like a two thousand dollar card. It's almost certainly an fpga
And and because red would have never done the volume of business that would have justified
Spinning like taping out a chip that just doesn't work that way
Yeah, fpgas are super cool. They're just really really expensive
Uh budan says you can also send firmware updates that update the hardware. Yes
You can update the hardware of the chip. It's super cool. That's super cool. I love them so much. Yeah
But you better be ready for like, you know a couple hundred dollar
fpga so that you can play like In like genesis games, it's like the power of an arduino that costs two grand to CPU
They're they're great. They're great
Oh sammy says remember the g-sync chips. Yeah, those were fpga, weren't they?
Uh, if I recall correctly, they were and that was a big part of why they were so expensive
Yep. Yeah, if something seems unreasonably expensive for like how much processing power in it, isn't it?
It's almost certainly because it's an fpga and not a volume manufactured asyc
Like what's the name of those those retro consoles? Um
Super super premium retro consoles they they have a game boy. Um, oh analog. They have an old
Yeah, analog their stuff is largely very expensive because they have fpga chips
Yep And also because they just build premium products. I mean look at them. Yeah fair enough, but still but also because fpgas are expensive
Yeah, yeah, retro to another example
Rather premium, but Yep. Yeah, she'd be she'd be costly
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep
All right, that's it for topics for today. So I think it's time for when after dark very after dark for luke
Oh, yeah, it's uh, I might be getting lights in
It's yeah, it's 540 in the morning here, dude
Did I show you the gym? Oh wait, I did. I sent you a picture Yeah, I'm excited smash champs gym is based. I uh, I went on the the stair master yesterday
And the bike just doing doing some of my cardio and it dude. It's nice
It's nice. I'm legitimately one of the first things I do when I get home is go to that gym
I want to see it. I the picture looks good
Little man shows a good machine Oh, he was just posing
Yeah, still for now if he wants you know
If he wants to train in the gym in a way that will help him with badminton
That is a machine that would make sense to use So I don't know. All right. Nice
lucky
All right, Dan you want some merge messages I mean, or do you want to self direct whether I whether I want them or not? I feel like um
I mean, there's a bunch of curated ones if you want to go down the list and read them While I just pop through the rest of these. Oh shoot. Do we still have incomings?
Oh, they're no longer coming in as fast. I'm just working through the backlog that was about 170 so
Okay, uh, yeah, I mean it's been I yeah, you know what before we get started before we get started
Now is probably a good time to tell you guys. Hey, thank you so much for your support. We are having an absolutely
um wild black friday
Um And the show has changed the numbers more than I expected. I just brought up the report just now
Um, yeah, we're having a we're having a ridiculous
Um black friday. So thank you guys all for being part of the part of the team's success here
Appreciate you all I have been doing for a minute for the last two and a half hours. Nice
Let's go down. So uh, you you dropped a gentle hint that you'd like me to just read them myself
Click on the incoming merge messages at the top. It'll collapse that yeah, I I'm already there. Okay. Cool. Thanks for the tech tips
Yeah, uh, okay nick c
Didn't ask this but I'm curious. I want to tell us about your trip
Uh Oh, are you not able to yeah
No, no, no, I'm just thinking what what is all even happened. Um
Well, you almost got you almost got stuck like sleeping at a train station
Maybe I can wait to hear that station until you get back
Uh No, I think it's fine. All right, let's hear it near me. So like okay doesn't matter. Um, yeah, so I was I was planning on
um I have this habit of
Traveling without much of a plan and I I actually really enjoy the outcome
I don't recommend it to anyone, but I I tend to enjoy the outcome
I've had some fantastic experiences that would have never happened if I had much of a plan
Um, but I had an inkling of idea of something that I wanted to do before I came here
Which was go snowboarding in the alps. I knew I was going to be somewhat close. So I brought some of my gear
Um, obviously not my like board and boots because that's kind of a lot to haul around
But I brought a lot of my other stuff um
And I had planned to go now
I left a little bit late
One day, but there were still trains going like it was fine. Um, I also ended up being late to one of my
So I left a little bit late, but there was multiple trains that I could have caught afterwards
so it was going to be fine and then Google maps was all messed up because there was a ton of construction going on
So I ended up missing one of my trains And the next train wasn't coming for an hour
So then I was even later and I was now on the
This is the last set of trains that will get you to your destination. Yeah
Stage which is never good to be in especially when you're in a country that you're not used to being in
um And then I get I get most of the way there. I'm now many hours away from from paris, which is where
Um, I was situated for the obh of it
And there's there's I wouldn't say a bunch because I mean it's the last train of the night
There's really not that many of us But there was probably about like 20 or so people waiting at the station for a train
And then the train just didn't show up. It sounds like a skill issue. Maybe you need training
There was a there was an announcement that went over the pa Something to do with the train not showing up and then most people just left immediately
And there was probably about like five to seven of us left afterwards
Hang around the station trying to figure out what's going on
The station itself was actually like
Stunningly nice Oddly enough like there was there was a climb that's handy in the train station
That as far as I could tell you didn't even have to pay to like
You just had to bring your own equipment Like ropes and belts because it had like the the things to to loop into while you're going up and it's like free access climbing
Well plants inside super super nice train station. So I was like, okay
Well, I guess this is going to be the first time I'm like homeless for a night when traveling
I kind of because I travel with no plan I kind of thought this would happen eventually but because I travel with no plan. I always thought it would be my fault
Not a train just not showing up. Um, so I'm like legit. I'm texting Linus
Linus and Emma to be fair. I was also texting Emma. Um, but talking about like the situation that I'm in and genuinely settling in to
Just like sleep on a bench for the night. Um, he wasn't happy about it next train. He was super not thrilled. He was like
He was like very cranky about this prospect. It was pretty funny now that it's
Now that it's yeah The main thing that was concerning me about it was that like, you know, I had my like laptop and stuff with me
So, okay, I'm a pretty deep sleeper too. So like, okay, I'll strap it to me and whatever but someone could just open the bag. Um
So I was I was not stoked about that. Um
But then I mean realistically the French are more likely to surrender than like take anything from you
They'll drape the big white blanket over you Oh my goodness
So, okay, so I had one word for them forever and they never forgot about it. They're just gonna slip a
Orange jacket over him too Stop it. It joins the fight
You gotta stop chirping or else you're gonna start another war between the British and the French. Um, they just lose
Um Well at this point, I think it would be the eu versus people that made bad decisions. What I don't know
Like leaving the eu the best decision. I'm not upset. I could have worked anywhere in the eu. I'm not upset
How he's stuck here
Got him, um Okay, so yeah, one of the first things I did was like check, you know hotels in the area
Um, and I went to two different ones and neither of them had any vacancy. So I was like, okay
I guess I'm screwed I started to settle in and then a
A the the people that administrated wasn't police officers
But like the people that administrate the train station came up and went to go kick everybody out
I don't think Linus knows this part of the story. Um
Because I was trying to figure what was going on because I I was informed I might have just been dumb
Turns out I wasn't but I was still trying to figure it out
But yeah, they go to kick us out of the train station. I can't understand French
So I'm just kind of like standing there watching some of the guys I was with get in a heated argument with the people that are trying to kick us out because they're like
Well, it's the the trains fault that we're stuck here. So like you shouldn't kick us out
The next train's technically coming in like four hours
Because the first one in the morning is super early. So like just let us sit here for four hours. Who cares?
Um, ultimately they kick us out. I tell one of the security guards
Like, okay, how do I like contact the train station because I had to buy another ticket
So like how do I get a refund for my one for today? And he's like, oh, it wasn't a train. It was a bus
And I was like what So like I was just stupid standing inside and the bus left behind me or something
Oh, man, um And and I'm like, well, okay, all these other people thought it was a train
And I thought it was a train like did they just
Were we all just wrong and he was like, yeah
I'm like, okay. Well All right, so
All right, and I'm now being kicked out. So I'm like, okay, it's raining really bad outside
I don't really want to sleep in the rain So I keep trying to find hotels I walk up. They're all closed
But I walk up to one of them I just stand outside the door for like a while and then eventually somebody comes by and just like opens the door
Um, they had no vacancy I go do that to another hotel and they had one room left
And it was super cheap and actually It was very cheap
And it had one of the best like free breakfasts. I've ever had anywhere. It was super good. That checks out
That's for you, man Um, I was I was stunned at how good the breakfast was
So I I crashed there for like a few hours
And then uh, got back to the train station and no the dude that kicked me out was wrong. It was a train
um So I did you get any fun which which
No, I haven't figured that out yet. I'll still try to figure it out But that that was actually worse because I spent so long running around trying to find this bus
Oh, dude, it wasn't a bus So I I was literally like especially as the the time until departure kept getting closer and closer and closer
I was legitimately like Sprinting around trying to figure out like where the hell this bus stop is
But google maps kept insisting like if I looked on google maps, the line was on the train track
Yeah So I was like it's gotta be the freaking train. Well, let's say it's a rail bus
Um
But yeah, I ended up figuring it out Imagine saggy on the train and it was fine asks a question that I know the answer to but I feel should be acknowledged
Uber not a thing over there
Uh Uber to the destination that I would have gone to
What if I remember correctly it was legitimately like 400 dollars. Yeah, so
I'm not paying that Yep No chance. I know we can afford it
But I know you won't pay it Yeah, that's ridiculous, which Emma was was mad at me about
She didn't want me sleeping in the train station when I could have just got that uber. Okay, but I was like, dude, there's no way
Things are about to get really spicy for a second. Things are about to get super spicy because I think I think
There's gonna be a double standard in your relationship I would have bought it
You're not even gonna let me finish
You mock her you mock her you mock her
For not wanting you to sleep in the train station
But if she was gonna sleep in a train station, you 100% would be like, no, I won't allow it
100% 100% if she didn't want to book it. I would have booked it to her location
Instantaneously, there's no chance Yeah
Yeah, oh man Oh, man
Yeah, I know I know I knew the answer before I even started talking. I was like there is
No way he would let Emma sleep in a train station
Yeah, I mean there's yeah And there's to be clear this is not just luke being some kind of man overse toxic whatever the f*** or whatever
There's legitimately a far lower chance of luke being assaulted
In you know overnight in some you know remote area with no supervision or whatever
It's like actually It is actually like a numbers game that is a very different numbers game for him versus a you know
What like 120 soaking wet lady, you know, yeah, I'm sorry. Emma if I got that wrong one way or the other
I'm so sorry. I have no idea how much you weigh and if I did know because I'd looked that closely
I wouldn't admit it in front of luke. So that's where we're at
The only reason why I had no reaction to that is I don't either. Um, so
All right, perfect. Then we're good
Right I'm calling her right now
No
I think the question is why does Dan have her number there boom deflected
Oh Oh, you both know why should we do some merch messages? Yeah, we should
Oh man luke She better not call. I hope she's not watching I'm getting texts
Uh luke, what is a memory that will always make you laugh from the hacker conference?
Uh
While you laugh while you think uh, I have a little uh, I have a little message from a robot at drand, uh
Read all 1500 of these comments might be the highlight of the year everyone in the org super proud
That was a it was a great video. I really enjoyed they they really did like roll out the the red carpet or the
Lights completely off glow in the dark carpet
The the tour really was very self-guided even though obviously like I wasn't alone in the building like let's have some common sense about it
But it was a lot of fun It was really cool
Genuinely really cool to see their operation. They really do
Make actual goods here in canada, which is a thing that not a lot of companies do
And they run a really clean
operation They've had a few challenges lately, which they have acknowledged
And have been working really hard to overcome
And they promised us that by the time this launch went up
They would have things smoothed out and it seems like things are are ticking quite a bit better over there in terms of like communication
It's been slow communication due to some internal systems changes over and
I didn't fully understand what it was because there was a bunch of jargon to do with like
crms and management systems that I don't deal with on our side like it's all run by the creator warehouse team
But I was like I nodded and I was like, okay, but it like it's going to be solved and they're like, yeah, we got you
I'm like, okay, um, but yeah, really fun
um They didn't say anything about the ruin vinyl
They actually yeah, never never brought it up to me. I'm sure they think it's funny though
Um, my favorite comment on the video. They actually linked me my own comment, which is funny
Was to whoever at LTT might actually read this whoever had the idea to film a desk pad product placement
In front of dbrand's unreleased stuff and have it be painstakingly blurred by the editor needs a raise
And I'm only partly joking that level of thinking outside the box and being able to look at another company's
Confidential unreleased stuff and think this is where we film our marketing spot. It's perfect
Is a level of creativity or whatever you call it that can't be taught or trained that was shockingly fantastic
11 out of 10 will watch again in lieu of a raise Please pass on my admiration if you don't mind big mad props and I responded. Thanks. I'll give myself a raise
I've actually I've actually gotten to write a little bit more than usual lately and it's been really fun. Um, I got to do the
um The uh equinex
Equinix, excuse me. I got to do the equinix tour. I got to do the dbrand tour
Um, that one's that one wasn't really written the equinix tour was actually written like I did the tour and then I wrote it
Um, and I like I never get to do that anymore Um, and then the dbrand one was mostly just kind of ad-libbed and they actually provided a lot of sort of
Guidance for what the flow would be but I was just kind of doing my thing. Um, yeah a lot of fun and uh
I thank you. Thank you for noticing. I also thought it was very funny
and thank you to Poor editor who had to deal with that. Thank you
All right, look Uh, yeah, I do have an I do have an answer to that so in general it was it was an absolutely amazing conference
I plan to go next year. It was super fun that people I was with was absolutely amazing
Um, I hope I get to hang out with the same group next time
Um, but I don't think it was like particularly noticeably high on humor
Um, so what I will give my answer as was the loop
The the funniest thing to me the whole time I was there. I think was the
The tesla loop thing Um
We did that. I don't think I've talked to Linus about this at all But you know the the tunnel. Yeah
And they had it's just a car on a road, right like is
It's so stupid
It's so dumb It's really cheap, which is nice, but you know because of how cheap it is
They are absolutely unquestionably losing money on it hand over fist constantly because not only is it just a car on a road
Uh There's drivers
It's not even like automated You actually get in a car with someone else and they drive you through this stupid tiny little loop thing
It's just it's so dumb. It could have been you know those like, uh, I don't actually know what you call them because escalator
Would would imply you're going up But those like those flat conveyor belt kind of things that they have in airports
So just make you like move faster when you're walking
Or you can stand on it. Yeah, whatever moving walkway Sure. They can just have like a huge moving walk travelators. They're called travelators
That is such a cool name. I love it. That is actually kind of if it's not the real name. I don't care. That's that's my head cannon now
So they they could have just had a travelator
And honestly it would have been fine because you have to wait for your stupid
manually driven tesla to show up And then you have to like quite legitimately deal with traffic and you have to buy this
Annoying ticket thing. You have to do it through the app I couldn't even buy it because like something something. I don't know canadian
So like fio had to buy my access for me, which felt so stupid, but thank you fio
If there was just like a huge travelator
It would have been fine. Um, it was
Actually just like mind-blowingly
Dumb um to the point where it was fun. So I'll I'll give that as my answer. All right, Dan
Hey, lld. Thanks for the free shipping making the most of it. Yeah, you are
Yeah, if you had the ability to remaster a product you released justifying the additional research and development time
What product would you work on? Ooh
Remastered product
See the thing is I have the resources to remaster something if I really wanted to
Hmm Remastered product
Man, I can't even remember all the products anymore. I kind of wish we had a product archive
I've seen some customers ask us for it before
And I I could I could actually really use it whenever people ask me stuff like this
um Man something that we didn't
Hmm H rognis is the christmas album. Absolutely not people are saying that good try
Good try Good try. Oh, is that what it's not why you curated that stupid thing? Absolutely not. Oh, yeah, for sure
For once in my life. I'm being honest with you. Hmm. I don't know if I believe you. I don't know if I believe you at all
um Yeah, what for what if a remastered version of the christmas album existed would you uh,
I would never acknowledge it It is not my son
I have started getting my my yearly emails again
I get emailed every time a purchase is done on the forum
And that's still the only way that we distribute the christmas album
So every every winter I get random like a purchase was made on the forum because it was uploaded by my account
and how the Purchasing system on the forum works is there's a commission system built in
So I get zero percent commission every time but because
Because it's still technically a commission system even though it's zero dollars and zero cents
It emails me every time letting me know Congratulations. You just made zero dollars and zero cents
Oh, it's like I'm gonna get my paycheck
Come on after all these taxes
I remember self-employed was like radicalizing
Compact disc called you out luke with the not so subtle telling people how to buy it
Hey, man, I'm trying to make you money. Come on I don't want that money. I want people to spend their money on stuff. That's good. The christmas album is not good
Um
Nedza life says the potato sack hoodie. Okay, sure
A remastered potato sack hoodie would be kind of cool like a like sick potato sack hoodie
Not at all like a like a hint at an upcoming product if you redid the screwdriver. You call it the two driver
All right, so anyway, I need my own bell. I'm gonna need my own bell ding the bell. That's an order soldier
Are you right there? You've made nearly five grand on the christmas album. You'll probably pass five grand
On the christmas album this year What is that? What does that make me? Uh, so so if if uh, what what was platinum is how many uh, records down?
You think it's like a million. Okay, so then gold would be how many?
100,000. Okay. So then we how far do we have to go down? We got silver. We got bronze
We got wood. Uh, we've got those exist. Is there like silver and bronze?
No, of course not. Gold's 500,000. I'm making jokes luke for crying out loud. I know
Could I get a cardboard album for selling $5,000 worth of christmas album?
That would be pretty funny actually. Well, if you did five thousand then
Oh, hold on. There's there's some other ones. There's auro platinum model
Uh, I think we sold it. We would have had to sell a thousand units to make $5,000
So what do you get for a thousand albums Dan? Sawdust album
Deep red Three bucks each It's three bucks each. Oh, okay. So we sold like 1300 albums
Oh, but it's it's It's three dollars american though
I didn't think about that. Oh my god. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's the r.i.a. anyway
So let's see you would have made $2,003
Three dollars from spotify plays Wow
That's something These sound like participation awards says smallish potato. Yes, that's the point
I don't I don't think that even counts as participating. That's just like
Misclicks, so it's a margin of error. Yeah, all right. Okay. All right. Um
Remastered product. I'm going with potato sack hoodie. There fine. That sounds nice. That's good hoodie
Uh halfway through a phd and started watching in seventh grade
Phd is on wireless ic's for implantables
Linus as a previous user of the ura ring
Would you implant something of the sort? What risks affect that choice?
uh For me the biggest obstacle to using something like a smart band is
Dealing with taking it on and often charging it So if it was something that I could just implant and it could like charge itself off my body heat or something
I yeah, yeah, I think I would I mean as long as it's made out of like, you know, medical grade steel or you know
Glass or something inert. I assume glass is kind of inert. I I'd be
Yeah, I'd I'd I'd be pretty into it I mean we were before the covid lockdown thing happened
We were planning a road trip down to somewhere in seattle to get um
RFID things in our fingers like we were all going to do it. We're going to make a video about it. I'm
I'm I'm into it. I don't know that I do like serious
Augmentation, you know assuming that like, uh, you know bionic eye that could come out and see behind me was available tomorrow
I don't know that I would do that But I think that something like an implantable health monitor or something seems pretty innocuous
It's like hot glue a mirror to your shoulder there you go
Implantables rye saw asks do we have your permission to pirate the christmas album? My god, absolutely not
Because you shouldn't be listening to it. It's not about the money or not money
Why would you even say its name? It's about the fact that nobody should listen to it. It's terrible
All right, it's it's the nobody should listen to it thing is true because it's it's actually so angelic that it's it's not
Made for human consumption. Stop it. It's too. It's too good
Nick says, uh, we're gonna build a product archive when the new site comes online
So that's cool. And he also says don't oversell the socks before they're actually for sure. Yeah, numpty
I was talking about the socks earlier, but ever. I think they're promising. They're promising. I'm excited
cat Hello Wanted to slowly buy a new computer and buy used over the next year. What do I?
Need to know and what? Sorry, what do
I do to know how and what i'm buying is working
Is it Worth it for a higher in pc builds? No, you should never buy a part that you don't have something
To plug it into Because that part will only depreciate
Well, I mean, okay, there's the tariff thing but um in general
Not technically always true, but it's a pretty good general rule
Yeah, but what you should do is you should take your loonies. That's what we call a dollar here in canada because
Whatever you should take your loonies and you should put them somewhere where they are safe and will not be spent
And then when you have enough loonies you should buy it in one fell swoop. That's the way to do it
What about rising inflation? um
Dan Fine you take your loonies you put them in an appreciating asset class
And then you hope that it appreciates at the same rate as the player. I don't know the point is just that
I am pretty sure that the inflationary devaluation of your loonie is going to be less of an issue than the
um The march of progress devaluing the parts that you buy
And give it six months The whole naming behind a loonie is pretty straightforward. It's not that hard to grasp
Yes, I know it's a loon on it. It's got a bird. I know why it's called a loonie. Put a bird on it. All right enough
bird Bird up Linus. Who is the most famous person you've ever met?
Sincerely an Aussie who is now broke, but at least not due to shipping. That's a big amount for yourself
um Do it. No, no. Well, okay. I don't I don't know if I met Paris Hilton
But I complained about her And she was there in person
Being mean to somebody across the room does not count as meeting them. I don't know. I that could kind of count, right?
Well, look, I was
Because because because I was at a BMW event
They literally sponsored me to be there and make a video about their event
And when I asked to go in the concept car
They were like, no, nobody's allowed in the concept car And I'm like Paris Hilton is in it right now while you're telling me that nobody's allowed to be in it
If she can go in it, then I can go in it. I'm literally paid to be here by you help help me help you
So like she was she was right there
That I don't think I don't think that counts as met though. It counts as seen. I don't think it counts as well. I saw her
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You saw her. I mean, I I interacted by proxy with her
You were by proxy not as important as her you didn't get to sit in the car
I attended a seminar given by chris Jenner
Did you meet them or did you witness them?
Uh, there was only a couple hundred of us there small seminar
shake hands Did you did you talk to her though?
No, no, no, I've got no I got an answer. I got an answer now. I know I'm just messing with you
I obviously know I didn't meet those people Uh, probably the most famous person that I have met
is NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang And he might not be famous in the way that we think of like
Fame famous, uh, but he is very famous. Um, especially now that NVIDIA has become the world's most valuable company
And like Jim Cramer's talking about him and everyone's talking about him. Yes. He's very famous right now
But I fully agree now. Yeah Yeah, I don't think I I don't man see this is embarrassing because I always forget
Like I think I have met a handful of like real celebrities
Um, I have met mr. Beast. I guess that's valid, but I kind of don't count youtubers
Um, so I've met lots of famous youtubers. I met Mark Rober, you know, he's real famous
But like when I say when you say fame, I mean outside of a niche
When you are literally the CEO of the world's most valuable company, that's a different kind of fame
That's household name fame The best word I guarantee you more people know mr. Beast's name than Jensen Huang
Somebody in the zeitgeist But but yeah, but I would say a wider variety of people and actually I don't even know if that's true
Luke because Jensen Huang's fame is international
I suspect most Chinese people don't give two shits about mr. Beast
I suspect I also think there's a very vast amount of people that don't give two shits about
Jensen Huang or NVIDIA or even stocks that know who mr. Beast is and I'm not just saying because they're kids
Um, I'm saying like income situations where that's just honestly irrelevant to you
Um Would still know who mr. Beast is
That's fair people are saying deadmau5. I don't think deadmau5 is more famous than any of the people we're talking about
But I've definitely met Joel Um
Yeah, I can't think of uh, I can't think of
Shortcut says I think you're underselling youtube
Shortcut says mr. Beast isn't a niche
But also kind of is like the thing is most of the people I interact with in my daily life do not know who mr. Beast is
Because they're adults You
Yeah, I mean the the mr. Beast squid game thing got over 300 million views didn't it? Yeah, I know but
There's a lot of people in the world. There's definitely a lot more than 300 million people that have a GPU. I'll promise you that
Like there's there's levels of mainstream
I would say Paris Hilton is a lot more than NVIDIA is not the same as knowing about jensen's and
You Like I I guarantee you I know people that are into tech that despite NVIDIA's recent success success
Don't know who jensen qualms. I just to be clear. I'm not arguing jensen is more famous than mr. Beast
I'm just saying I don't really count youtube fame because I see it as
I see it as like uh, like big fish small pond and it's a pretty damn big small pond at this point
It's a huge small pond. So I was wrong
The squid game video doesn't have 300 million views. It has uh 672 million views
It's absolutely huge absolutely huge, but
You can watch that video without knowing or caring who the host is
100%
And I suspect a lot of people did
Yeah, that's probably true
So it's but I think way more people use NVIDIA products without knowing who the CEO is
Then watch a mr. Beast video that is hosted by mr. Beast and don't know who mr. Beast is. Yeah, that's yeah, that's totally fair
I'm just saying there's different kinds of fame. I consider youtube fame a little less famous than
Than a like a barrier breaking fame Right like yeah, for sure. No, I agree. I agree. Mr. Beast has a lot more views on youtube than Paris
Hilton, but I would say that she is more from a conventional standpoint famous than mr. Beast
Because it's just a name that F***ing everyone knows whether they watch simple life or not
You just know who she is the daughter of the hilton fortune because everyone knows what a hilton hotel is
Like there's just there's different kinds of fame
Is that a generational thing though? Because like we know possibly but I don't think she's talked about in
Any circles very much anymore. She's still a dj. She's she comes up every once in a while
She comes up once in a while And but you're right. She definitely had she definitely had a moment
But she's more in the background now. And so yeah, no, you're right. She was big for our generation for sure
I just don't think she is anymore That's fair enough
Porto asks is Seth Curry more famous than Jensen mr. Beast. Absolutely not
No Anyone who is like other than other than I would say
Football And by football, I mean soccer other than soccer
I'd say if you're in an american sport league you absolutely cannot be like worldwide famous not really
There will be pockets where that sports really popular like they might know a famous baseball player in japan for example
But it's american the fact that america calls their sports championships world series and stuff is like
An actual joke outside of america like we think you guys are really funny for doing that because
Most people elsewhere do not give a s*** like india's watching cricket not
Actually, I think basketball might be pretty big there But the point is just that they don't have the kind of penetration outside of the u.s. That you might think
My wife loves all the women's products. She wants to know how
Uh, she wants to know thoughts on great gatsby on broadway. You saw a few months ago. It is so good
She's followed it very closely. It's so good. Oh my god. It's so good. It's like what maybe the best play I've ever seen
Maybe the best it's so good. Go watch it. It's so good
Gripping performances beautiful music
I love it When purchasing a mystery screwdriver, do you actually try to mix the colors when possible or just grab whatever?
When are we getting ratcheted fidget toys? Uh, I don't know if the fidget toy is ever going to happen at this point
But um as for mixing colors, these are not mystery in the sense that they have all the like different random colors of the rainbow
It's mystery in that it's one of our screwdriver skews like it could be retro or an octua
Or a regular one and you get what you get Long time listener first time caller. I'm a foreign medical graduate, but haven't taken my exams
Because reasons what are some tips you have for staying the course and finishing what you started
Well as someone who never finished my degree you are definitely um
Asking an interesting person this question
Someone who also never finished their degree
Uh But I think Lance and I can both talk about this outside of just education stuff. Um, I think you have to
Forget about motivation. Motivation is only good to start doing something. Um
It will not keep you doing something. You have to use
Other systems whatever that is Determination will whatever you want to use sure
But but motivation isn't isn't going to keep you doing something forever. You have to find a different thing
Find new motivation. Yeah, I think that's really good advice
Learn to love the work Hey lld
Do you think industrial design the field still has its influence in one?
mobile tech to home tech And like it did a decade ago sort of like the lg wing sliding and folding phones
I mean, yeah industrial design absolutely still has some fun influence. I mean
um Just because apple ships the kind of the same brick-shaped phone every year doesn't mean that other
Other companies are doing that. I mean that that Huawei tri-fold for all of the disastrous
launch it might have had Is definitely a new thought an exciting thought
And it came from a from a designer's pen at some point, you know, someone had to someone had to go
Okay, it was someone had to have a reason to engineer that, you know
As for as for home tech absolutely. I think if anything our home tech
um And I think a category that exemplifies this really well is speakers our home tech looks so much better today than it did a decade ago
Like you can have a really nice Speaker setup in a room that is like stealthy like it blends right in. I love it. I'm super into that
Sebastian in the chat and Floatplane says as an industrial designer. Yes
So he works for creator warehouse if you guys didn't see his AMD ultimate tech upgrade
It's really good. It's really good. The table the table he made is beautiful. All those pins you're buying is him
He also helped me design the table for my uh and mcm upgrade thing too
sick Hey DLL big howdy from japan that is in congress
uh With so much talk online lately about microsoft strategy with the xbox brand
I'm curious about your opinions on it. And what would you do differently?
Man, it really just seems like they're in a transition phase right now
You know on the one hand, they're a traditional game console maker on the other hand. They're a software company
Like a multi-platform software company on the other hand. They're like a cloud streaming gaming service provider
On the other hand, they're a like a non-streaming games as a service provider
I and it just kind of feels like they have they have a finger in every one of these pots all at once whereas
You know companies like nintendo have maintained their laser focus on one thing and it seems to be pretty helpful
I think xbox as a brand is in kind of a rough place right now
Like it used to be playstation xbox was one of the the fan boy fights of the for the ages
And I just don't see a lot of fight in the xbox side right now
There doesn't seem to be a compelling reason to be a fan of xbox. Um, yeah
They just seem really confused about the direction. Yeah, I'm Campbell just they will always be very confused about the direction
Yeah, I I would like to see them commit I'd like them I'd like to see them figure out what the heck they are
Like is every Windows pc and xbox and if that's the case then you need to make
The xbox gaming experience way better on the Windows pc like why
Why are handhelds such a clunky experience today when you guys have all of this deep deep knowledge and experience building
Great user interfaces the xbox has a really intuitive user interface. It's pretty darn good
Um, let's see you guys, you know take that
Take that power and bring it to the pc and I understand all the reasons it won't happen
It's it comes down to piracy, right? It comes down to anti-cheat and piracy, but um
I don't know. I'm rooting for them. I hope to see them solve it as a as a pc gamer
Turn 360 degrees and turn away Hey
Love the show and love the free shipping deal as an australian fan. I have a qto led tv like Linus has
What's the best or recommended way to clean your tv screen without causing damage a little bit of water
And a microfiber cloth and if there's any like grease on it or whatever from fingerprints
Then a little bit of water and a microfiber cloth and patience
Hello dlo i teach math and i'm flabbergasted when my students don't know how to submit their work as a pdf
Our kiddo's lack of computer basics is worrisome. What do you recommend i do to remedy this?
I don't even know I um that that article recently. Um, what was it on? Was it on the atlantic? I can't remember
About how kids are arriving in college having never read an entire novel a book
um There was a follow-up article that I was I was in the middle of reading today and then I got distracted
So i'm glad we're close to the end of wancho so I can remember I can go read it But basically I don't I don't know what we're supposed to do about this
like Yeah, people don't know how to troubleshoot. They don't have basic computer skills. They don't know how to
It's not that they don't know how to read. They know how to read, but they don't know how to sit
And read and um, I don't know maybe maybe books are outdated, but like
I can't think Of a more
Man, how do I say this I can't
Videos great, but nothing works as a reference material the way that reading does
um And not having that skill not having that ability to parse written word is
Scary This is a very large part of I mean we were talking earlier about the social media ban in australia
This is a very large part of why i'm so supportive of it
Is I think You know
The world being super connected and information being at our fingertips and all that kind of stuff is
Generally a good I think I think there's a lot of good content on the internet
I would like to think that we make good stuff, but it's also built to be
The platforms are generally built to be all consuming
and the level of I know it's a it's just a term right now, but it's real the level of brain rot that you can get from just
sitting And losing your entire day your entire week your entire year just pouring into tiktok or whatever else it is
Having absorbed nothing because your your brain is just
mildly observing The most brain rot quick garbage content if possibly can
And then moving on is is not good for people learning the ability to
To get absorbed into A particular piece of content like being able to sit and read
And enjoy that is actually a good thing because it's
I don't know The second you're stuck in a scenario where you don't have your phone
um having people like Genuinely fall into some amount of a panic
Because their brain is so used to this constant insanely high level of stimulation is just bad
Like there's there's no way around that that is terrible. You are setting yourself up to be
Absolutely controlled by whatever corporate interest feels like controlling you at any particular point in time and that's just a bad idea
um And exposing kids to that super early on
I don't think it's good But anyways cool gauch says if you're a teacher and your students don't know how to do a thing
That you need them to do then teach them how but you miss the part where they're a math teacher
Like there's only so much that so much power we have as individuals and you can't control what kids are doing at home
um, I think that I think that
Simultaneously teachers are given less and less resources and more and more expected job functions. I mean, they're not parents, right?
I'm sorry fazel faizel, um
I got nothing for you and I have uh, I have the same concerns that you do
Hey DLL with the coming advent of smart glasses with cameras
How will they be handled on the privacy side bringing them into bathrooms locker rooms recording with phones is obvious glasses
Is not it's going to be a big problem It's going to be a huge problem
Recording with phones is also not obvious. Um
No, this is already a huge issue Um, and I think this is the same type of problem that we had. I'm going to relate this in a really weird way, but like
Um
When when people become no, I'm actually going to skip that because it's not very good
But when people become complacent about something it becomes a security issue
um If someone's like waiting for a stall in a bathroom and they just have their phone out and they're just you know
Scrolling news articles or whatever you're not going to be concerned about it
When phones were first a thing if you pulled it out of your pocket at all in a bathroom people would freak out
Maybe i'm old fashioned. It's still makes me uncomfortable. I never take out my phone in the bathroom
And I expect other people not to Yeah, they do I would avoid them if they do most people are chill with it. Sorry
I would avoid them if they do like I I mean, that's fair. That's fair
And if it's like kind of pointed at me, I would I would ask them not to but I don't know maybe that's just me
Totally. I just I think culturally
I'm not saying it's a good thing or that people should have I'm just overall culturally
I think most people have moved on from that um
And I mean you can have it in your pocket With like the top slightly sticking out like I think people have become less concerned about the backs of phones pointing at them
And there's no indication that a phone is recording
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point a lot of other devices we talk about it with the phone. No
Yeah So like honestly, I think it's just
Going to be a thing. Um, I think in general the world is moving towards
um dolls with more proper doors
As as an interesting side effect. So this might be less of a problem
Yeah, I'd like to see that more change rooms with private changing spaces I don't really understand why that wasn't a thing in the first place. I've never been super into just like
Seeing a bunch of like guy bums Yeah, like it's it's as much not wanting to look at anyone else as it is uh
Not being particularly stoked on just like dropping trial with a bunch of strangers
But I never did team sports. So I never really like got used to it
Yeah, um having done team sports doesn't really bother me, but I absolutely understand why it would bother people
Um, and I have never understood Why in some situations I understand is a cost-saving measure
um Yeah, in a lot of places. It's like no you definitely have the money for this. It shouldn't have been a big deal. Um
I don't know
Oh We need more tall stuff. Yes. Yes. Yes. You're gonna carry one of these every week
Uh, no. Yeah. Oh, all right. This is it's not related to that
What's your favorite part of the d-brand torque? Did you see anything cool or have a takeaway that could be used to improve creator warehouse workflows?
I mean, I leave it to the creator warehouse team to figure out the workflow stuff But I think the coolest thing was probably the art stations. So
um, the the the pickers and packers
Have a designated time every day a certain amount of the day that they art
They do arts and crafts. Um, I don't know. I thought that was uh, I thought that was pretty cool
Stop reading into every merch message that I curate. They don't know I'll have an agenda
You I noticed you didn't say that a lot of them don't have an agenda, but sure carry on
Well, the people who are submitting them probably have an agenda
Uh, hey last one I got for you here fine. Hey, ldt. I'm glad to finally get a scribe driver
Question for Linus. Do you find the steam deck or ally to hurt your right hand wrist?
When using the right stick might get so sore. No, but I also didn't have trouble with the switch
So maybe I just have robust wrists, um
Ah, yeah No, I can't I can't say that it's been an issue for me. Um
You could try a case. There are some cases that alter the ergonomics a little bit
That's an option And I think an option that we have now is to call it
Thank you guys so much for tuning into the WAN Show. We'll see you again next week
Same bad timing Same bad channel one second Luke's computer froze. We we can't see the end. There you go. Yeah, we can hear you
Oh, okay. Oh, it's it's still frozen on my end, but I guess you can hear me. So good timing. See you guys
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