WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.480 This setup is so crazy, I needed every single one of these remotes to make it work. 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:09.040 Oh, jeez. No! And this is a simplified version of the setup. 00:00:09.040 --> 00:00:14.640 Let me show you everything. I'm going to go through the setup in the same order that we played through it in the video. 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:19.280 So the first thing we did is we played on our Genesis, which is down down there. 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:24.560 This is a regular Genesis to this composite splitter. 00:00:24.560 --> 00:00:28.480 This is a cool little splitter device. It does composite and component. 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:32.400 It's not really a sought after device for video games, 00:00:32.400 --> 00:00:37.360 but it does the job and I've kind of kept it as a backup in my pack pocket if I needed it. 00:00:37.360 --> 00:00:44.800 And it turns out this was what saved the day. Don't worry, I only use composite for the first part of the video to show how bad of a use case it is. 00:00:44.800 --> 00:00:48.480 We have a whole set of RGB and component switchers and stuff, 00:00:48.480 --> 00:00:52.960 but I'm going to save that for a little bit later. First, let's show off the HDMI runs. 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:57.120 The HDMI stuff's pretty straightforward. You know, you plug it into a switcher, 00:00:57.120 --> 00:01:00.480 goes to another switcher, goes to another switcher, easy stuff. 00:01:00.480 --> 00:01:06.880 Let's just do an example run. So for the switch, you know, we have our switch is going into this four by two matrix. 00:01:06.880 --> 00:01:10.160 This one can do 4k HDR. This one has two outs. 00:01:10.160 --> 00:01:14.160 One of these is going directly to our other matrix, which I'll get to in a second. 00:01:14.160 --> 00:01:17.840 But then there's one that's going to a 4k splitter, 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:24.160 and that's being split to both retro-tink. So I could actually have both retro-tink 4ks going at once. 00:01:24.880 --> 00:01:32.640 This one's not plugged in because we shot a bunch of stuff with it yesterday. Once those send the HDMI over, they send it to this eight by eight matrix 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:36.960 that AVPro Edge also sent to us. It's actually an insane device. 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:42.960 It's $8,800 and it's just kind of a top of the line machine. 00:01:42.960 --> 00:01:46.320 It does 8k HDR, variable refresh rate. 00:01:46.320 --> 00:01:50.240 And because the retro-tink does 4k HDR with variable refresh rate, 00:01:50.240 --> 00:01:53.680 we needed something this high-end to make this whole video possible. 00:01:54.240 --> 00:01:58.400 Huge thank you to AVPro Edge. So the first two are our retro-tink 4ks. 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:02.800 Our third one's coming from our retro-tink 5x, which is part of our analog run. 00:02:02.800 --> 00:02:07.920 This is an OSSC. We shot the video yesterday. We actually didn't end up using that, but we did test it. 00:02:08.720 --> 00:02:12.560 Very impressive response times, but I find the feature sort of limiting on it. 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:17.680 And then this one is from our four by two matrix, which is the unprocessed HDMI from our HDMI consoles. 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:22.880 That way I could display any scalar on this TV. And then on the bottom, I could show just like a naked HDMI 00:02:22.880 --> 00:02:27.040 so that you can get a comparison. Or we could show multiple different scalers at once, 00:02:27.040 --> 00:02:30.080 including two retro-tinks at once on different settings. It was a lot. 00:02:30.720 --> 00:02:36.560 As far as outputting from this thing. So our first one goes directly to our OLED 1. 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:42.560 Second one goes directly to our OLED 2 on the bottom. Wow, this HDMI port is not happy. 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.600 Oh, boy. Oh, jeez. 00:02:45.600 --> 00:02:49.440 Oh, boy. The third one goes to another splitter. 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.360 And this is one that can do scaling and strip HDR out. 00:02:54.160 --> 00:02:58.480 So I can scale it 4K to 1080p. It's going to two outputs. 00:02:58.480 --> 00:03:01.760 And the reason I needed it scaled to 1080p 00:03:01.760 --> 00:03:05.040 is because it's going to two extra on scalers. 00:03:05.040 --> 00:03:10.080 One is the DSC 301, which takes HDMI and outputs HDMI. 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:14.320 But what it's doing in this case is it's taking 1080p video 00:03:14.320 --> 00:03:20.960 and interlacing it to 1080i, which is what the HDCRT is best at on the bottom. 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:25.440 So that's kind of the best case scenario. With that TV, if you give it other resolutions, 00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:30.480 it can display it, but it'll add so much lag that the ideal thing you want to do is turn off 00:03:30.480 --> 00:03:33.840 HDPT in the service menu and only feed it 1080i. 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:38.000 So you kind of need one of these if you want the best case scenario with a Sony HDCRT. 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:44.720 And everything is so tangled. This, on the other hand, is our VSC 500. 00:03:44.720 --> 00:03:48.480 I'm going to show you it upside down because it's tangled. 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:54.400 This one takes the 1080p image and downscales it to 480i 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:58.320 and converts it to analog so that this TV can display anything 00:03:58.320 --> 00:04:00.640 that was shown on the HDMI to this. 00:04:01.920 --> 00:04:05.360 This is also a very versatile device. Both of these are pretty darn cool. 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:10.320 When we were measuring our input latency, they were, I think, six milliseconds and eight milliseconds 00:04:10.320 --> 00:04:15.760 added for that conversion and scaling, which is very well within the realm of acceptable. 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:21.120 This one can do RGB out, composite out, S video out, 00:04:21.760 --> 00:04:25.200 but we use component because it's just what works better 00:04:25.200 --> 00:04:29.360 with the stuff that I have. Yeah, you need a little HDMI to VGA thing in the first place. 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:33.040 There are so many adapters in this thing. Let's go. We're here. 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.240 We're at the analog run. This is a stupid thing. 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.440 I chose three different consoles for this video. 00:04:39.440 --> 00:04:43.840 One is a Neo Geo. It's basically an arcade board with a super gun 00:04:43.840 --> 00:04:47.840 that allows you to get video and power the board. It's pretty cool to use these things. 00:04:47.840 --> 00:04:53.360 You just use like a crappy power supply, this. And like, I'm going to f**k it. 00:04:55.520 --> 00:04:58.960 It's, this is not the best thing I should be doing. 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:07.280 This was literally in an arcade machine. I bought it off a dude who like runs arcades. 00:05:07.280 --> 00:05:11.680 You can buy what SNK made as a home console, which is the AES. 00:05:12.400 --> 00:05:16.800 Or you can buy these. I got this for I think $80, the super gun for 60 bucks. 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:20.480 And that's Canadian. Or you can spend like $700 on the consoloist one. 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:23.840 And it's kind of cool. I think the aesthetic of having kind of just a loosey-goosey 00:05:23.840 --> 00:05:27.280 arcade board, pretty neat. You can also buy consolization kits. 00:05:27.280 --> 00:05:32.000 I've done that with another MBS board at home, but I cheaped out and the RGB on it sucks. 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.240 So I actually prefer using this. We also have our Dreamcast, which was kind of picked 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:41.120 because it's got VGA out. So when I was testing the OSSC versus the RetroTank, 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:46.080 it was kind of a good comparison. The one thing that I didn't do is get an active VGA splitter. 00:05:46.080 --> 00:05:50.240 And so it really dimmed the image and made it that it was 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.520 not a really great test. It was kind of cool because then you could test the 00:05:53.520 --> 00:05:57.760 compensation for brightness that everything could do. But we ended up not using that instead, 00:05:57.760 --> 00:06:00.080 just focusing Neo Geo and PS2. 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:04.000 These are both consoles that I modded, just the shells. 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.280 This one has the GDMU board in it, 00:06:07.280 --> 00:06:13.280 so that it doesn't have a disk drive, but you can play games off an SD card that I legally own for sure. 00:06:13.280 --> 00:06:19.120 That's right. I own all of them. And then this is a PS2 that I very hastily swapped the shell on. 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:22.720 It's just a PS2 shell, but I did a really bad job. 00:06:23.280 --> 00:06:26.480 And if I don't press it in the right spot, 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.760 it thinks that it's open. Come on, buddy. 00:06:29.760 --> 00:06:33.600 There you go. So yeah, I have to press it down for it to spin or it stops. 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:39.360 But obviously I can't do that in the video. So I had to place these kind of just in the right spot 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:45.600 and see it's spinning. It's spinning. So if you see this tower on top of a PS2 in the video, 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:50.560 you now know why. So out of these three consoles, I had SCART from the Neo Geo, Component from the PS2, 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:54.000 and VGA from the Dreamcast, which goes to the back. 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:58.480 Let's do Neo Geo first, because it's kind of, I think, the most interesting run. 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:03.760 Originally, I wanted to test way more consoles, but the testing for this and the setup took a long time. 00:07:04.320 --> 00:07:08.000 And I think we did a pretty comprehensive job testing a bunch of use cases. 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:14.880 So the point is, I brought my 8-in, 3-out SCART switcher. 00:07:14.880 --> 00:07:17.360 So you can do eight different inputs of SCART consoles. 00:07:18.080 --> 00:07:22.800 If you're watching this, you probably know what SCART is, but if you don't, it was basically a European... 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:26.960 It was basically a standard everywhere but North America. While we had composite video, 00:07:26.960 --> 00:07:29.920 you know, one pin for everything of your video, 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:35.840 SCART has like 20, let's say 20-ish pins, 00:07:35.840 --> 00:07:40.640 and it doesn't use all of them. There's a lot of them that are superfluous, especially depending on what signal it's sending. 00:07:41.200 --> 00:07:45.440 But almost universally, unless it's sending composite over SCART, 00:07:45.440 --> 00:07:48.480 this is a better connector in terms of video quality. 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:53.840 And so most people now, even in North America, you generally are going to move towards an RGB setup 00:07:53.840 --> 00:07:59.520 that's going to use SCART. So here, the functionality that I'm using really is the splitting. 00:07:59.520 --> 00:08:03.200 So I have two SCART outs. One is going to the RetroTink 5X, 00:08:03.840 --> 00:08:09.840 and one is going to the RetroTink 4K. The third output on this is actually through RCA, 00:08:10.640 --> 00:08:15.680 which works fairly well because I have this SCART 2 component adapter that I use. 00:08:16.400 --> 00:08:22.400 At home, I generally use the SCART 2 component. I just have mostly components runs 00:08:22.400 --> 00:08:25.840 for everything that's in my retro setup, and I'll show you guys the extra on after. 00:08:25.840 --> 00:08:31.200 So this worked really well. RGB in, component out. And then the component out went to this switcher, 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:37.600 which took input from the analog run, but also the digital run from this extra on. 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.880 And I could select both, and then output that to the TV, 00:08:40.880 --> 00:08:43.920 depending on what test we were doing. I didn't have to unplug, re-plug stuff, 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:48.080 simplifying it a little bit. This is for the Dreamcast. 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.680 To get VGA out, I have the Bahar Bros. Toro. 00:08:52.880 --> 00:08:56.240 Basically, you can do SCART and VGA out from it, 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.800 just from the Dreamcast connector. It's pretty good. 00:09:00.800 --> 00:09:04.800 I bought this use, and I think the SCART on this doesn't work quite right. 00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:08.480 I've never been able to get a great image out of it. I mean, I just unplugged that. 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:12.560 But the VGA is what I use at home anyway, so it's not a huge deal. 00:09:12.560 --> 00:09:16.960 Last piece of the puzzle is the Extron Crosspoint 300, 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:21.360 which is a matrix switcher. It can do RGB, it can do component, 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.800 as well as composite. I'll show you guys the back, because I think it looks coolest from the back. 00:09:26.800 --> 00:09:32.080 It's funny how messy this is, considering I barely even utilized half of this. 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:38.080 So this one has eight inputs and four outputs. 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:41.120 I kind of wish I had gotten the eight output one, 00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:44.800 but for this case, it was fine. It would have been nice to have a fifth one. 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:51.120 One of the things that's kind of neat on it is it has the five BNC jacks. 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:55.920 So you have to use these little RCA to BNC connectors, 00:09:55.920 --> 00:09:59.040 or you can get five BNC cables and make that work too, 00:09:59.040 --> 00:10:02.640 but seeing as I already have a bunch of component cables lying around this made more sense. 00:10:02.640 --> 00:10:06.320 These are like 17 cents each. But those five don't do audio. 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.120 That's for RGB and then different kinds of sync. 00:10:09.920 --> 00:10:13.760 But you get audio on the bottom, and I bought these little modules 00:10:13.760 --> 00:10:17.680 that go from the five pin Phoenix connectors to RCA, 00:10:17.680 --> 00:10:22.000 just to keep it simple. You could cut the cables yourself 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.720 and then run them to this connector, 00:10:25.280 --> 00:10:33.280 but I found these for like $3 each and saving $40 to save myself an hour or two 00:10:33.280 --> 00:10:36.320 of just cutting cables and putting connectors in was worth it. 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:42.240 Right now we're running gains on our mister. We're going from mister to HDMI matrix to splitter 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:45.360 to retro-tink as well as the matrix. 00:10:45.920 --> 00:10:50.880 Right now, you're seeing both directly from the mister, but with a button presser too, if this is... 00:10:50.880 --> 00:10:53.680 It's not connected, screw that. You guys get the idea. 00:10:55.680 --> 00:10:59.760 And then we get our HDMI's out to this, which are being scaled to this. 00:10:59.760 --> 00:11:04.000 One of the nice things about the extraons is that you can customize the stretch and the size. 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:07.520 One of the bad things is that sometimes when it turns off and on, 00:11:07.520 --> 00:11:12.080 the settings kind of reset and you get this. But that's the rundown. 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:15.360 That's the setup. What did you think? If you like it, let me know. 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:19.680 If you don't, go away. Okay, bye.