WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.200 Sometimes an idea is so dumb, it just has to work. 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:07.640 We've looked at gun mice before. Mice in the shape of guns. 00:00:07.640 --> 00:00:12.020 And you know what, I like them. But Ragnoc has released the new model, 00:00:12.020 --> 00:00:15.280 the Ragnoc Ergo Strike 7. 00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:22.280 And it's got some fancy new features that might make this the absolute best gaming mouse gun 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:28.280 on the whole market. Sure, that might be a little bit niche, 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:35.280 but it doesn't matter when it's something that's cool. And I think that making your peripherals 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:39.560 be more like the device that you're using in a game can be pretty cool. 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:43.960 If you're using your mouse to play shooters, why not have your mouse be a gun? 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:51.280 Inside our box, we have our user manual. We have some extra skates for when these wear out. 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:56.280 We also have a USB A to C adapter dongle buddy. 00:00:56.440 --> 00:00:59.040 And then we have what looks to be a six. 00:01:00.800 --> 00:01:05.520 How did I make a knot so quickly? Incredible, I should be a sailor. 00:01:05.520 --> 00:01:08.640 That's about five feet, but it is braided 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:14.440 and it has that little shielding thing. The sleeving on the cable is not like tight to the cable. 00:01:14.440 --> 00:01:19.160 It kind of like slides around. It's not a huge, huge deal, but I could see this wearing 00:01:19.160 --> 00:01:23.120 if this got caught kind of between the wall and was rubbing. I think it would pile pretty quick, 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:28.040 but the quality of the cable is fine. That's it for what's inside the box. 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:31.640 Let's take a look at the mouse itself. 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:35.000 It is a lot bigger than the previous one. 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:38.680 This palm grip is just massive. 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.760 Holy smokes, that is a design decision. 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:47.080 It's certainly hand gripable with all the buttons inaccessible places, 00:01:47.080 --> 00:01:51.560 but I feel like it really removes 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:56.360 my immediate feedback to the desk because I'm so lifted onto this mouse. 00:01:56.360 --> 00:02:01.440 It feels like I'm like two degrees separate from the actual table. 00:02:01.440 --> 00:02:04.520 Not the end of the world, but I like having like a finger dragging along. 00:02:04.520 --> 00:02:09.960 Maybe that's just a personal thing. Maybe that's even a bad thing. But what I will say is that it's fairly ergonomic. 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:15.680 Like this is a very natural grip shape with no breaks in my ARM. 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:19.280 The movement of the wrist is a little uncomfortable 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:23.080 because it's not quite like straight breaking like this 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:26.880 and it's not straight going aside. It's kind of like at a bit of an angle because of it, 00:02:26.880 --> 00:02:31.280 but it's not too bad. I feel like I'll end up just kind of using my full ARM. 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:36.040 In terms of grip size, I think it's for medium to big hands. 00:02:36.040 --> 00:02:40.720 It's not really for small hands. I don't have particularly big hands, 00:02:40.720 --> 00:02:45.160 but it's at the edge of what I would enjoy 00:02:45.160 --> 00:02:50.320 wrapping my meaty fist around. That grip is like a rubberized grip. 00:02:50.320 --> 00:02:54.720 You can see that it's a little bit two-toned from the hard plastic here. 00:02:54.720 --> 00:02:59.040 This feels like the kind of rubber that will degrade really, really, really, really fast. 00:02:59.040 --> 00:03:02.040 But it's a novelty, so it doesn't have to last 00:03:02.880 --> 00:03:07.920 as long, I guess. You're not pulling this out to play all your games, but it feels already a little bit 00:03:07.920 --> 00:03:15.160 like that oily, rubbery feeling as it's degrading, kind of not quite sticky, but easily to gunk up. 00:03:15.160 --> 00:03:18.840 I can also see that the different types of plastic 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:25.000 don't line up perfectly. And it's kind of in perfect molding, too. 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:28.480 It's gonna be hard to show on camera, but here there's like a divot 00:03:28.480 --> 00:03:33.800 that catches the light a little bit. And then one up here, probably can't see it. 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:38.640 Not a huge deal. It also doesn't line up perfectly. It's not like it's uncomfortable, 00:03:38.640 --> 00:03:42.220 like the back is worse. And it's not where your fingers are going, 00:03:42.220 --> 00:03:46.680 so it's not a huge huge deal. On this side, we have our scroll wheel that also clicks. 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.240 We have button one, two, three. 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.720 So three buttons on the side, four if you count the scroll will click. 00:03:53.720 --> 00:03:59.600 On the front, we have our trigger, which feels like a mouse switch this time, 00:03:59.600 --> 00:04:04.280 not a keyboard switch. Pretty clicky, still got pretty good movement. 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:08.360 I think I'd like to see it really be a trigger pull, but not so bad. 00:04:09.200 --> 00:04:12.840 Another button down here, I'm guessing that's a right click. 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.240 And then on the top, we have our settings for the recoil, 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:19.120 as well as our little thing that does recoil. 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:22.520 I'm really excited to see how that feels in my hand. 00:04:22.520 --> 00:04:27.920 Apparently this is actually designed to fit the Lego spacing, 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:34.000 so you can put a little Lego figurine on here if you really want to. Not sure why, other than I guess it's a spot for decor, 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:37.840 but I don't hate it. On the bottom, we have our skates. 00:04:37.840 --> 00:04:41.880 Looks fairly widespread. 00:04:41.880 --> 00:04:46.280 We have our sensor right at the front of the base, which is sort of surprising. 00:04:46.280 --> 00:04:51.480 Generally the mice sensors are pretty close to the middle, but when you look at the whole gun mouse 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:55.760 from front to back, it's a little closer to the center 00:04:55.760 --> 00:04:59.480 than I immediately thought. So that is about right. 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:03.760 We also have our DPI button, as well as our mode toggle. 00:05:03.760 --> 00:05:08.920 This is a wireless mouse, but it can work wired through USB-C on the front, 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:15.240 or via Bluetooth or 2.4 gigahertz dongle. Besides those switches, we have the spot for our dongle. 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:18.880 I'm a big fan of having a spot on your devices 00:05:18.880 --> 00:05:22.640 for their wireless dongles, just so it's a little bit harder to lose them. 00:05:22.640 --> 00:05:25.640 And on a mouse this big and heavy, there is no excuse. 00:05:25.640 --> 00:05:32.560 We also have the black model here, which is, in my opinion, the much better looking one. 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:37.200 I also think this rubber feels less dunky. This doesn't feel nice. 00:05:37.200 --> 00:05:43.200 That feels pretty premium. So, you know what? This black one actually has a keyboard switch, 00:05:43.200 --> 00:05:47.920 which is no longer available. Only the mouse clicky one is available. 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:51.560 It's a trade-off. This has a much better travel, so it feels like I'm pulling a trigger more, 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.200 but this has much better feedback in terms of the click when I hit the click. 00:05:55.200 --> 00:06:00.720 I think overall I still prefer the mouse clicky one. Speaking of how all the buttons feel, 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:05.720 these I would consider like adequate. 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:12.360 The front back buttons are definitely okay. This button is fine. 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:16.080 I actually like to click on the mouse wheel a fair bit. This one is the worst one. 00:06:16.080 --> 00:06:19.560 This right click is really mushy. Also, it looks really uneven. 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:23.120 Like if you press here, it's like, it will click, but it's just kind of like that. 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.960 Meh, meh, like that just, this is nasty. 00:06:27.200 --> 00:06:31.200 But it doesn't feel like a very premium product. 00:06:31.200 --> 00:06:34.320 In the way that I felt like the last generation one did. 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:39.760 Let's get it out and compare. It feels like an entirely different product. 00:06:39.760 --> 00:06:43.640 I mean, it is, it's a successor, but the original one feels a lot more 00:06:43.640 --> 00:06:45.600 like holding a pistol grip, 00:06:46.880 --> 00:06:51.000 but it is a very light plastic and these switches really suck. 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:55.000 It's also much less trigger-like than the actual trigger on the new one. 00:06:56.520 --> 00:07:02.760 And so in terms of shape, I like this better. In terms of, you know, realism, I like this one, I guess. 00:07:02.760 --> 00:07:07.120 I guess you could also get like a pistol grip on your gun that has like a, you know, a big drum mag or something. 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:13.200 I don't know. Guys, I don't know nothing about guns. It's hard to deny that the new one is a huge improvement 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:17.800 in terms of placement of things and overall quality, 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.200 but I do think they lost something with making it more ergonomic 00:07:22.200 --> 00:07:24.340 versus feeling like holding a gun. 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:29.040 That's a tough trade-off. Just like it's tough. 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:32.040 Every second, I don't spend telling you about our sponsor. 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:34.520 I got feedback. 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:43.240 That's all they could pull off? That's less rumble than a fricking controller, man. 00:07:44.520 --> 00:07:47.720 They would have been better off having like a weight spin around. 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:51.120 Okay, we have our two modes, our two times speed, 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:55.760 our one time speed and off. Does that mean it's not tied to anything in game? 00:07:55.760 --> 00:07:59.400 It's just a mouse button press that triggers this? 00:08:04.200 --> 00:08:07.280 That sucks. It'll be better for compatibility 00:08:07.280 --> 00:08:11.120 because it doesn't need compatibility. It's literally just like, 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:14.240 you're pressing a button, I'm gonna go, ee-ee-ee. 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:18.040 Man, come on, I wanted to like this thing so bad. 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.160 Oh, it's not coming. Maybe I can change it in software. 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:27.400 Let's check it out. All right, we're in software. Click the mouse to get started. 00:08:27.400 --> 00:08:32.640 Okay, we can reassign all of our clicks. That's useful because there is so many buttons on the side. 00:08:32.640 --> 00:08:37.360 You can import and export your settings. You can change the debounce time. 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.360 We can change our DPI settings. I'm gonna keep it at 800, that's what I like. 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:45.480 We can change our polling rate because thankfully this is 1000 Hertz mouse, 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.560 which is definitely adequate for the gaming space. 00:08:48.560 --> 00:08:54.560 And we actually did some Labs testing, which summed up, it's pretty okay. 00:08:54.560 --> 00:08:59.480 It's not gonna win any awards for being competitive shooter mouse, but it lands kind of somewhere in the middle 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:02.640 with about 10 milliseconds of input latency 00:09:02.640 --> 00:09:08.200 from a click over its dongle. And so you won't really be impacted negatively 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:11.680 by the performance of the mouse, but if you are competitively minded, 00:09:11.680 --> 00:09:15.960 you weren't gonna get this mouse anyway, so it's fine. We got our sensor settings. 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:19.400 That's right, we have a PAW3395 in here, 00:09:19.400 --> 00:09:25.120 which is a flawless sensor, great choice, very standard sensor amongst very decent mice. 00:09:29.680 --> 00:09:33.080 I forget that it does it every time. I'm clicking and dragging like that. 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:38.200 I'm just dragging a window around, but I'm shooting guns, fantastic. 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:41.760 Down here we have some sensor settings. We can go in high power or low power mode. 00:09:41.760 --> 00:09:44.920 High power, maybe. We have our lift off distance 00:09:44.920 --> 00:09:52.200 if we're having trouble tracking as we're lifting. And we have our high performance mode, interesting, 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:57.200 where we can turn off how long the mouse goes to sleep in. 00:09:58.040 --> 00:10:01.480 How long the mouse goes to sleep in? Let's leave it at 15 minutes. 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:07.000 On the right, we have ripple control, angle snap and motion sync, which they're mostly settings meant to mitigate 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:10.200 some of the smoothing issues of super, super sensitive mice. 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:14.040 But I played 800, so that's not an issue. Under here we can change what our light, 00:10:14.040 --> 00:10:18.760 DPI light looks like, I'm going to leave it. Over here we have our macros, 00:10:18.760 --> 00:10:23.000 although on their website, they specifically don't recommend using this. 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:27.120 Not sure what that means. Not a big deal for me, I don't use macros. 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:30.640 So that's fine, we got RGB control, 00:10:30.640 --> 00:10:34.080 rainbow stream, there's nothing better, brightness, speed. 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:35.600 Turn off lights while moving. 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:42.800 How would I want that? I don't understand. What a strange granular setting. 00:10:42.800 --> 00:10:47.800 I think RGB is almost mandatory for gimmicky products 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:52.680 but it sucks they didn't embrace the gunness of this mouse. 00:10:52.680 --> 00:10:55.400 I really wish it was just like black and metal, 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:59.680 but this one also has RGB. I don't know, I feel like they're really missing out 00:10:59.680 --> 00:11:04.160 on having that bro-dude aesthetic with this thing. 00:11:04.160 --> 00:11:07.600 Huh, okay, that's it for the software. Why don't we play a game? 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.040 Feels pretty decent as a mouse. 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:19.840 I really don't like how hefty this platform is. It really removes that immediate sensation 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:22.640 of holding a gun, which I think is the whole purpose 00:11:23.560 --> 00:11:28.040 of something this silly. Oh no, I don't like it as much as the last one. 00:11:28.040 --> 00:11:32.160 Yeah, this I'm like, yeah, I'm fired a gun, oh yeah, I'm friggin' cool, man. 00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:36.480 This is like a much more comfortable ergonomic experience. 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:39.160 That's not why I come to a gun mouse. 00:11:40.880 --> 00:11:45.800 Better mouse, better gun. I will say the tracking, pretty damn good. 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:51.160 If this was a budget mouse, I would be pretty, 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:57.560 pretty pleasantly surprised with how well it performs, but it is in fact not a budget mouse. 00:11:57.560 --> 00:12:00.680 I'll tell you about the price in a little bit. I could have fun with this, 00:12:00.680 --> 00:12:03.680 so it's not so bad that it's ruining my fun or anything. 00:12:03.680 --> 00:12:07.200 It's just, I think, missing a little bit of the point. 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:13.440 It looks more like a gun, but I'm not interacting with that part, and I'm not looking down at the mouse when I'm using it, 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:18.280 so it doesn't matter that it looks like a gun, what matters is that that feels like a friggin' pistol grip. 00:12:18.280 --> 00:12:21.600 This feels like an ergonomic pointing device. 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:25.120 I'm so upset. I was so excited to unbox this thing, 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:28.160 because I thought this had so much potential, 00:12:28.160 --> 00:12:33.120 this little pistol grip handle, but they thought about it too hard 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:36.440 without narrowing on the things that made it good. 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:41.360 You close your eyes. This is a s***ing MX Master. 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:45.760 You close your eyes. You're holding a f***ing pistol. 00:12:46.760 --> 00:12:51.600 Also, this is way too little friggin' force feedback, man. 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:56.400 You need it, they need, Ragnock, Ragnock, great idea. 00:12:56.400 --> 00:13:02.040 There is big improvements in this one. I think there's a lot of things you've done well, 00:13:02.040 --> 00:13:05.160 but I think you need to go back to the basics. If you're gonna do force feedback, 00:13:05.160 --> 00:13:08.760 it has to be more powerful than this. It has to give me more sensation 00:13:08.760 --> 00:13:13.080 than a friggin' busted PS1 rumble motor, okay? 00:13:13.920 --> 00:13:19.320 It needs to feel like a pistol, not just look like a pistol. 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:23.280 And I need this trigger to be a f***ing trigger 00:13:23.280 --> 00:13:27.680 all the way down. I don't care about the competitive nature of this. 00:13:27.680 --> 00:13:33.640 This is a personal thing. Everything else I was 100% right about. I don't care about the immediate feedback 00:13:33.640 --> 00:13:37.960 and input being put into my computer on this. I want it to feel like I'm pulling on a trigger. 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:42.400 So I think there should be a spring that before it actually gets to the switch, 00:13:42.400 --> 00:13:47.440 it has a little bit of travel, so that goes extra long. That'd be so much better. 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:51.480 And no one is buying this for competitive advantage, so it doesn't matter that much. 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:55.160 One thing I haven't talked about yet is the battery life. 00:13:55.160 --> 00:13:58.400 They claim about 70 hours if you're doing no RGB 00:13:58.400 --> 00:14:01.640 and no recoil, which actually wouldn't be too bad. 00:14:01.640 --> 00:14:05.320 About 10 hours if you are, which is not great, 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.680 but this is a novelty mouse. You can use it for the brief period you want to 00:14:09.680 --> 00:14:13.480 and then plug it in. I think this is not a good productivity mouse, 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:18.480 although maybe it is. It is just an MX Master, 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:25.360 but it's not like it's cheaper than an MX Master. This thing costs 180 US dollars. 00:14:26.280 --> 00:14:31.600 189 US dollars. It is on sale for 129, 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.880 and I get the feeling that it's one of those 00:14:34.880 --> 00:14:38.120 kind of permanent sales, like the real price is 130, 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.880 but 130 for kind of a shitty MX Master. 00:14:41.880 --> 00:14:46.720 Worst force feedback I've ever seen. An okay trigger, 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.720 but the shell that kind of looks like a future pistol. 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:55.120 It just, it's just not good enough. 00:14:55.120 --> 00:15:00.480 And that sucks, because the previous one was good enough for what it was. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:04.760 It did its job, and then they over engineered it. They thought about it too hard, 00:15:04.760 --> 00:15:08.160 and I think they were concerned about how it would look in photos, 00:15:08.160 --> 00:15:14.400 not how it would be, and I think that they've made a worse product. It's an okay mouse, comfortable shape, 00:15:14.400 --> 00:15:18.640 but it doesn't work as a gun mouse. 00:15:18.640 --> 00:15:23.480 So editor, bring back my ranking. This is the number two gun mouse on the market. 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:24.720 This is number one. 00:15:27.040 --> 00:15:32.360 Just like your number one for making to them in this video. If you want more details on the Ergo Strike 7, 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:36.520 you should go over to the LTT Labs website, where the Labs team is writing up 00:15:36.520 --> 00:15:40.920 a full article on this thing. I'm really curious to see what they have to say, 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:45.920 because they can't be more disappointed than I was today.