What up? Oh, hi, Mark. Oh, hi, Mark.
Oh, hi, Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. God damn it.
Well, what, what, nice. We have a Mark here, and he cannot escape that.
Yeah, I know. I can't either. But I still find it, I still like it.
It's kind of a deep cut. And maybe once a month I get it from someone,
and I like it every time.
That's a very tactful way of saying, oh my god,
we're not hanging out at Next Creator Summit. You're not original. That just means that you're not original, you know?
No. Hey, hey, look, who's more original?
Mark or Linus? Yeah, definitely Linus.
Or your parents. At least your parents are more original than we are.
That's actually what my mom says. We're like, why did you name us? Because Mark, Brian, and Lisa are my siblings' names as well.
And she's like, I just picked the most popular names at the time.
That's such a terrible, that's not cool. That's not a good, like, story.
Yeah, the problem with Mark now is it's like Walter and Barbara.
It's becoming like an old person. It's not cool anymore.
So it's like, oh man, in like 20 years, it's going to be one of those names.
You're the new Hans. Yeah. No, like Randolph.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So how's the NAS treating you?
It's amazing. Well, so the NAS is amazing.
The computer we got, we're just freaking selling it for scrap.
I mean, I don't even think you guys got us a smoke and deal on it. So it wasn't a thing.
But like, so they bought a system from Puget to do the conversions from the raw footage to proxies.
But because they're like strictly a Mac house,
apparently there's some weird issues with the proxies not performing very well.
The codecs are different on a PC versus a Mac for some reason.
Yeah. Yeah. The answer is, well, guess what?
Apple just came out with these great new Mac studios, you know? Yeah, that's a good way to go.
Which is doing the job for us great. But yeah, the NAS is amazing.
And then I also love the idea, too, because we're going to do a second one that's
like at another location. So then we're like fully mirroring back down.
Really? I have no idea what you're talking about. You don't say. Is that it?
No way. Thank you for sharing your future plans with me.
Yeah, maybe they didn't brief you too much on this. But that's what we're doing today.
Oh, really? Oh, this is amazing. Yeah, we're going to do an offsite backup.
And you are going to sleep so much easier at night
knowing that every night, everything that you ingest to your main editing NAS, which can be used
by any of his editors, both local, remote, whatever.
If Mark just wants to check on something and get to, oh, yeah. What did I say in that other thing?
So everything that he dumps on there is going to be replicated to this one
so that in the event of a fire or other disaster,
the data won't be lost because the hardware has a value.
Sure. In thousands of dollars, what's the data worth to you, Mark?
It's like $20 minimum.
Just kidding. Per kilobyte. Priceless Linus.
It's priceless. And that is the punch line here. It's like it's the peace of mind, even just having the NAS.
I wish I should go grab it. I'll send you a B roll shot of it.
But it was stored on these little Western digital hard drives
in a Tupperware in my freaking closet.
And so knowing everything I own is in a NAS here.
And then now, if we have a fire here, knowing that it's backed up a second physical location,
again, knock on whatever.
Light my head. Class.
A game changer, absolute game changer.
Do you have any regrets not going with a DAS?
Because I got to give them credit. They did their research.
Like, your plan was not stupid. It was just like the MAC plan.
Yeah. No, I think it's working well for us. I think the other thing that was different,
that kind of was something we had to wrap our head around,
was that we don't necessarily have a bunch of editors in here
working physically on site, where you need a network that
we're all connected to Ethernet. We don't have a lot of editors, first of all.
But second of all, we just kind of put it on proxies on drop line.
It's kind of our workflow. Our main need was just like a one central computer that
had the raws on it that stored it all, that when it's time to export the video,
we all work on proxies, then we just all, we remote into that and export it from that computer.
Awesome. Awesome. So yeah, it's working amazingly.
It's the freaking best. It's just the best. And it's something we wouldn't have been
able to figure out on our own at all. And our solution was going to be a lot more expensive than the
one you guys proposed. So you were able to look at what our actual needs were
and being like, look, you don't need the Ferrari to go to the grocery store.
You just need, for what you guys need, this is what the perfect solution would be.
You know that's how I got into this, right? Yeah, right?
Wasn't it like talking with other YouTubers who had issues?
No, I would hang out on the forum. The computer store I used to shop at had a forum.
And it just offended me so much when I saw people spending too
much money on something that wasn't as good, that I was one of those rabid, like, I know you could save
$10 and be 3% faster.
You know, I was one of those people. And basically, I've just turned it into a career.
Yeah. I remember I did ask you at Bidsummit a question.
I don't even know what I asked you about. But any question I asked you about,
it was like the most thorough response. I understood about 5% of it.
But it was very clear. You don't give yourself enough credit. I'm sure you got the important stuff.
Most of it was probably fluff.
What was I going to say about that, too? Oh, yeah, I mean, because that's the thing, right?
There's never one solution fits all. And I think a lot of times they'll just kind of sell you
the most expensive thing. But it completely depends on the needs of the customer, right?
And I think even as a YouTuber, my needs are pretty different than other YouTubers.
And maybe theirs would be different from another. So there's no way around, besides the customized solution.
Dude, I know so many folks whose entire workflow
is that they just never wipe SD cards.
So they just shoot to an SD card.
They copy it onto their computer, like their MacBook or whatever, one project at a time.
They edit it. It's uploaded. It's done. It's out.
It's out of their mind. They wipe the SD card. That's it.
So the SD card is their second copy. Oh, so they don't wipe the SD card, though.
I thought you just said they wipe the SD card. That's it. They don't wipe it until the video is uploaded.
So the SD card is their backup. And their other copy is the one on their local drive.
And then when it's uploaded, they just are like, well, this doesn't exist anymore.
See you later. I hope I'll never need a full quality copy of this again.
Yeah, we would do that. We would keep it on as a Western digital in my closet.
But that was the only single spot was in my closet. But yeah, we had one backed up in one spot.
It's like, I should have done this eight years ago.
So I just, I'm trying to think of a good analogy.
Just one of those things, we're just like having this. Because this is what we are.
We make videos. This is our core product, right?
So it's like our Fort Knox for everything
just didn't even have a lock on it. And now it's actually organized and locked.
And I can sleep at night. I always tell people, people will ask me, what do you do?
Like if they are meeting me for the first time. And I don't say, I do YouTube.
I say, I am a YouTuber. Like it's a personal identity.
And I don't even think about it. It's something that I had to reflect on and go, no, OK.
And here we are just like treating this like,
and you know what, realistically, I got to tell you, you're probably going to go back and actually use
this footage like very rarely.
But it's there. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
It's there. But we just had this situation. We're getting a bunch of our videos translated.
And we had to, we use this like, because we had to go back
and like get the stems and stuff. And no, if we didn't have the server,
that made our lives infinitely easier. We went back like 40 videos, right?
That's awesome. That's awesome. I'm so glad. So we are just about set up here to demo the off-site backup
capabilities. Jake, how close are you setting up Kale scale?
I think we're ready to go here. There we go. I've lost you just for a second.
You said we're just about set up here to demo the and you cut out.
Off-site backup. So we're going to live try to sync the machine that's
with you, which is thousands of miles away from us up here
in Vancouver to this machine right here. And hopefully it'll just work.
This little cable. Wait. It all rests on this little cable right here.
This also means that you'll be in possession of my entire back
catalog of footage. So you better not start like a TikTok and bootlegging all my videos, Linus.
I mean, you signed the end user license agreement, right?
And the privacy policy. Did you read it? Did you read it, Mark?
Of course. I could have read it. This was your end game all along, curse you.
You're only one of them. You are just one gear in this machine.
No. Honestly, it would still be worth it, even if you did that.
It would be worth it. That's how good. That's how good it's been.
This is exciting. So how long will it take? Because I think we have like.
You have 100 terabytes. It's going to take like a week.
So first go will take, however, I mean,
you've got one gig connection there. We'll probably set it to run at like half that speed
so it doesn't just destroy your internet. So you don't go to upload a video.
Yeah, what's going on? Why does Google suck?
So probably like a week or two. And then once that's done, every subsequent update,
every subsequent sync, it only copies
that extra little bit. So it's a lot faster.
What's really cool about this is that in the event that you guys were to suffer from some kind
of a cryptographic attack, right?
Like a ransomware. There's really advanced ransomwares out there that will go
and they will start encrypting everything, even on network attached drives that are accessible
to the infected machine. So because we're using a technology called snapshotting,
where it will actually retain an old non-encrypted copy
on that remote server, theoretically, you will be able to go back in time,
kind of like Apple time machine, and restore it to a state before it was encrypted.
And it'll be super inconvenient and it'll suck. In fact, it might even be faster to literally get in the car
and sneaker net that other machine back into the office
so you can not lose production time compared to,
copying it back over or whatever. But you'll have it, which is better.
So when you guys ship it to us, it'll already have all the stuff on it, huh?
It will sort of. So it'll have everything on it, but we're gonna pull all the hard drives out
for safety during shipping because they can be quite sensitive. We wanna ship them in a proper hard drive shipping container.
So theoretically, and we might need to give you a little 15 minutes of remote help with it or whatever,
but theoretically- Well, we already did this once, remember? Right, so you'll take those drives,
you'll slam them into this machine and everything will just pick up.
I'm so excited. This is, I'm truly just something in my brain.
It's just like, it's just so excited to get this peace of mind.
Cause that's what this is. This is like insurance and peace of mind and something that's been nagging on me forever.
Every time I open the fricking closet and see that pile of hard drives.
Mark's a trendsetter, okay? Technology is officially actually cool now.
It's not just me saying it. It's cool cause my hat's backwards.
I'm cool.
No, wait, no, I don't have the video up. He's probably wearing a backwards hat too.
I see him in the back of the hat, oh he is.
No, that's my stick. I'm always wearing a backwards hat, so I'm like the cool guy.
Wait, are you copying him? Yeah, I am, I'm the trendsetter.
His hat's not even from lttstore.com.
Speaking of which, if there's any merch I can put in a package for you, let me know, have we already sent them
screwdrivers and stuff? I don't know. Yes, I mean you should.
That would be amazing. We use screwdrivers around here. We're getting close here.
I swear to you, it is actually a good screwdriver and you're gonna use it.
I'm only gonna send you one because I'm like the pusher.
First sample's free and you're gonna buy more. Okay, deal.
Wait, maybe we did already send them some. I can't remember.
When are you coming down to the Bay Area by the way? Oh man, I've been traveling so little dude
but I will message you.
There's always something. There's Googles down here. There's like conferences.
Oh, good old Google. If you're ever in the area, for sure,
you gotta stop by. All right, all right.
You can see her. Maybe for Vancouver, it's worth it. Vancouver's awesome.
Vancouver is nice. I was just in Bellingham like a few weeks ago.
Okay, in theory, it's running now.
Okay. Oh yeah, look at that. Hey, look at that.
We're getting about 40 megabytes a second. Well, just give it a sec.
Yeah, that's gonna take a sec. Nice. Well, it's actually better
that it's running a bit slower because if it were to just like fully use that pipe,
like we said before, your internet would be absolutely mangled. Yeah.
No, that's good because our, and I think you said too,
we can send it on schedules where you just do it after 9 p.m. or something, right?
Yeah, totally. And another thing you can do too, actually,
is if it's not too much of a trek between your two locations,
you could bring it on site, do the first sync at full gigabit
or even, I don't know what to switch to have. We have 10 gig, we have 10 gig. Okay, so at ball and speeds,
and then you can go and take the other one off site
after the fact. This is awesome, dude. We've already,
we've actually already transferred two gigabytes here. I just, I grabbed some,
Addy said to just grab this random project that was really old.
I think it was called like Watermelon something. Okay, so to talk, to talk.
I was gonna say like two gigabytes,
that's like my first probably 12 videos
when I was filming like a flip camera. I think this whole project is six gigs.
Do you remember it was called like Watermelon Smoothie or something like that? Oh yeah, yeah, I know the Watermelon Smoothie.
It's a classic. Play the clip.
I'm sorry, we like put a coat hanger with the drill into a water smell.
Oh yeah. You can just liquefy it and then you pour it out.
Hey, hey, tell me, Mark, I wanna know which of us had the worst first camera.
Do you remember the model number of your first camera? Oh, it was like a Sony,
it's like a Sony silver hand cam that flipped out. It was probably about $800.
It recorded on the DV tapes, I think.
When did you buy that? It would have been 2004.
So 2006 maybe, and my first video was 2011.
You know what, my first LTT camera
actually from the exact same year came out in 2004.
It's the PowerShot SX-1IS.
Made by Sony? Canon. It didn't even support external microphones.
So the operator always had to be close enough to me that the mic on the front would pick up what I was saying.
Like the front of the camera? Yeah.
When was your first upload against Linus? When was your first upload?
Okay, mine's complicated because my first upload to NCIX tech tips
where I worked was I think 2006.
Man, I don't even. 15 years ago. 15 years ago, goodness,
I hate watching this number keep getting older or bigger.
2007, sorry, 2007, July 2007 was my first upload.
What I love about us YouTubers is like, you could just, the growth mindset,
and I love going back and looking at like the first video
and just how much, you know what I mean, like an actor, their first time,
first time they act they're already like a good actor for more or less, right?
If they're like a mainstream actor, but like, I love with YouTubers, you go back,
you just see the growth and like how you get better at talking to cameras and coming up with scripts
and ideas and it's a lovely. The early stuff's unwatchable, dude.
I know, but it's like unwatchable. It's such a lovely, delightful way.
It's like across the board. Pick any YouTuber you look at their first video.
I think his earlier stuff is better than mine. No, it's not.
Roll the freaking clip. Do it calm, you'll see.
Well, speaking of which, speaking of rolling. Yeah, you have the clip there, just play the clip.
Yeah, let's steal some clips here. It has finished transferring,
so why don't we actually try and roll this clip?
Oh no, and then you can see how I named my files. It's like, smoothie, final, export, final, final.
Under score one, underscore one. Yeah, underscore one, final, final this time.
Oh, we should totally glitter prom Linus. Yeah, we shouldn't.
That's a banger video. I didn't do anything to deserve that.
My favorite part of your, this is a bit of a non-sequitur, but it just for some reason reminded me
of a package going to your house, but my favorite part, in the video where you got hacked
and you had like the security camera in your house, didn't you have to blur out your junk, right?
Like, you're just. Yeah, we have a team member that's,
it's part of their, you know, their contract to do that whenever we need to do that.
Well, it's not like that. It's like that he accidentally saw it once.
So now it's like, well, it's nothing you haven't seen before.
That's like in the contract, in the fine print.
That's amazing. He has a technique though. Do you know what his technique is?
Just like squint.
No, he, he blurs the whole frame
and then he makes it smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.
Oh, that's funny. That's a good thing. So he doesn't have to see anything.
Yeah, I'm amazed you outs. I feel like I would have had to like personally do that,
but it was, there's probably a lot of footage there or just start sleeping in boxers, Linus.
That's the other solution. Yeah, it's not comfortable, man.
Oh my God. And we even make like the most comfortable boxers.
Don't take your pants off, I swear to God. This just turned into a merch plug.
Nice Juno move right there.