WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.160 I wanna find Fred's new channel. 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:06.920 Yeah, we found that he sold his original channel 00:00:06.920 --> 00:00:11.920 and then his original channel is full of like random garbage 00:00:12.680 --> 00:00:16.400 that is not obviously Fred. 00:00:16.400 --> 00:00:18.400 Yeah, like clearly was never gonna work. 00:00:20.840 --> 00:00:25.840 And so we're just kind of wondering what his new channel is. 00:00:26.080 --> 00:00:29.260 Were those two people peeking out of a vagina? 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:35.000 I don't know. No, I think it's a smile, I think it's a smile. 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:44.000 Oh man. Fred Quest. 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:48.000 Does anyone know? People on the reddit say that it's under his own name, 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.000 but his name is... Fred. 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:55.000 Fred. So... Oh wait, no, his name is Lucas. 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:58.000 Oh, is it? I've been looking up Fred Figalhorn. 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:02.000 Yeah, there's no problem. No, that's his character. 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:06.000 Okay, what's his last name? Lucas Cruikshank. 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:12.000 Here it is, it's just Lucas. Okay, so he actually uploaded as recently as five months ago. 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:17.000 Oh, no, as recently as two weeks ago. Yeah. 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.000 Oh, he totally still uploads. Yeah. 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:23.000 It's like I did a thing. I tested Protein Slop Dick Talk recipes. 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:26.000 I bought questionable Dick Talk products. 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.000 I tried to have fun at a dying abandoned mall. 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:37.000 Honestly, it feels like it's Fred still. I have a haunted hotel for him to check out. 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.000 Are they working on that yet? I wonder. 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.000 Pink Palace. Dot it. I kind of doubt it too, honestly. 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:49.000 Pink Palace, sorry. 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:55.000 New ownership offers hints about future. That was from October of 2024. 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.000 Um, yeah. 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:02.000 Cool. 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.000 Nothing in the news recently. 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:17.000 How is Sora dead asks Stakeboy? Well, stay tuned for the WAN Show and we'll tell you. 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.000 Yep. No news about the Pink Palace. 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:35.000 I can't find your hoodie on LTTstore.com. 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:38.000 It always gives me 404 instead. Haha, I get it. 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:45.000 All my back. Dude, I'm so sore and tired. 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:49.000 I have done too much, Jim. I'd laugh so hard if they were serious. 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.000 I don't think so. They could be though. 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.000 You don't know. All right. Should we, I mean, should we just get started? 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:02.000 Slash. I want to see if this is still a thing. 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:06.000 All right, that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, it's not. 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.000 What, starting the show? Yeah, sure, whatever. Oh, actually, hold on. 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:11.000 Give me a sec. 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:23.000 Yeah. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:41.000 We actually have like a ton to get through today. 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:48.000 So it's going to be a huge show, bigly. 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:52.000 Yeah. 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.000 Yeah. 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:56.000 Oh, wow. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.000 Dan, have you seen this Apple business topic? 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:17.000 It's getting real, boys. I mean, it sounds kind of awesome, to be honest. 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:20.000 Okay. Let's save it. Save it. 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:24.000 Should we just do this thing? Yeah, sure. I feel like we should just do this thing. 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:27.000 No. Oh, God, what is this? What is this? 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.000 I'm not going to worry about it. What? 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.000 Just send it whatever, Dan. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:35.000 I love the delay. 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.000 I'm going to deal with the thinking head and then confront this. 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.000 Not yet. No, we're not going to talk about Cash Patel getting hacked, but it's pretty funny. 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:54.000 Oh, really? I didn't see that. His personal email was accessed by the Iranians, 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:55.000 apparently. 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:03.000 Boom roasted. It's weaponized incompetence. 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:07.000 It's been spectacular to witness. 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:10.000 Is it like self-hosted or some crap? 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:13.000 I have no idea. I mean, it's his personal email. 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:16.000 So like, you know, it's not a government email. 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:20.000 No, I know. That'd be funnier, but it's just still pretty funny. 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:23.000 Apparently it was Gmail. It was Gmail. 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:27.000 Yeah. So that like, not to give too much credit to Google, 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:30.000 but that sounds like it actually probably was just like 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:35.000 incompetence. And look, look, I've had accounts compromised before. 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:39.000 Everybody makes mistakes. So, you know, let's, let's, you know, bear that in mind. 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:43.000 But also when you're supposed to be the director of like 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:47.000 a national intelligence agency. 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.000 Yeah. It's just, it's funnier. Yeah. 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:53.000 That's all. I think it's funnier. 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:57.000 So no 2FA. It doesn't necessarily mean that. No, it doesn't necessarily mean that. 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:03.000 We got hacked. I mean, I'm getting 2FA. I wouldn't be, I mean, they didn't get into my email. 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:07.000 Yeah. Yeah. 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:12.000 Amarius says, I don't know. 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:17.000 It was pretty funny when you got hacked too loud. Now listen, my strawberry being on the internet for everyone to 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.000 see is not funny. Kind of funny. 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:23.000 I know. That's the joke. God. 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:30.000 I thought it was pretty funny. Oh, man. 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:35.000 The Louvre's password being Louvre. If Cash Patel's personal email password was like personal 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:41.000 email password. That would actually be pretty good. It would definitely be some kind of cash pun. 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.000 There's no cash cash money with cash and money. 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:48.000 Cash and money. He wouldn't even use like the dollar sign for the S. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:53.000 That'd be too secure. Dollar sign money. 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.000 There's no way that's not in like the top, you know, 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:59.000 couple hundred passwords. Dollar sign money. 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:05.000 Just cash money. There's no way. I mean, as we learned from hackers, what are the top, 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:10.000 what are the top top hundred passwords? I guarantee you they've changed actually since the hackers 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:13.000 thing. So I think they probably just made those up too. 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.000 Oh my god. Some of those are very real. I can imagine. 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.000 They're just all numbers on the number key. Forget it. 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:22.000 There's no cash. There's no cash in here. Yeah. 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:27.000 A lot of it used to be like God and stuff. 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:30.000 Hmm. Wait, what? 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:36.000 Princess. By year, according to splash data. 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.000 People are getting more and more basic. This is crazy. 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:42.000 Yeah. Like QWERTY is it? 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:45.000 Oh, actually no. QWERTY is actually gone up. 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.000 So. Okay. 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:54.000 No, no, it's just variants. I felt like I was seeing more like actual words in the, 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:57.000 in the very top over here. Football. But that's not actually true. 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:01.000 That's not actually true. Football was like shot up for one year and then disappeared 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:08.000 again. Star Wars in 2017 was a password. 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:11.000 Oops. Star Wars. 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:18.000 What happened with Star Wars in 2017? 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:21.000 It might have been something that happened in 2016. Holy crap. 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:27.000 The last Jedi came out in 2017. And people are so excited about it that their passwords. 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:32.000 Dude, the last Jedi was almost 10 years ago. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:35.000 I can't deal with that. Yeah. 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:42.000 Star Wars has been dead and buried for 10 years. 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:45.000 Yeah. That's crazy. 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:49.000 Yeah. There's kids who watch the last Jedi who are graduating high school. 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:56.000 Oh, is this top? I don't know if this is like a show topic, but Colbert's Colbert 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:00.000 and Colbert's son are making like the new Lord of the Rings films? 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.000 I'm so... That's actually really exciting. 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:06.000 Psyched. And what's his nuts? Peter Jackson is producing. 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:09.000 He's working with them on it. Yeah. Yeah. 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:14.000 It actually like sounds awesome. Yeah. Like Stephen Colbert is like a big lore nut. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:17.000 Oh, and like... Big Tolkien guy. Actually though. 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:20.000 I know though. Yeah. Yeah. 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:24.000 Like imagine that. Imagine bringing in people who love the source material to adapt the source material. 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:31.000 What a crazy, stupid idea. Wow. Imagine paying for source material and then fucking throwing it away. 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:34.000 Like, isn't that insane? Yeah. 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:37.000 I don't know who would do that. Like you... Probably someone really dumb. 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.000 Did I just spit on you? I don't think so. Oh, okay. 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:43.000 No, I just... Oh, okay. Oh. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:51.000 Yeah. I just hope he's good at making movies. 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:56.000 Well, I mean, I think Peter Jackson's making the movie. Peter Jackson's the producer. 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:01.000 I'm assuming him and his son are like the more executive producer role. 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.000 I'm not sure what their actual role is. I think they're involved in the writing. 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.000 Oh, okay. Yeah. 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:12.000 Could be good. I have no idea. He's got the lore chops. 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:15.000 Isaac Fig Newton says, stop the new Star Wars hate. 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:19.000 Watch the old ones again in timeline order and the new ones are decent. 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:23.000 What are you talking about? Like the third Skywalker trilogy? 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.000 Because if you're talking about that, then... No. 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:34.000 I don't really know how to reconcile your opinion with reality. 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:37.000 Like I can... I'll yield on certain points. 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:40.000 Like I will... I'll admit the... 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:43.000 What was the second one? Last Jedi? 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:49.000 Right? I'll yield that's a good movie in that it's like... 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:54.000 It has all the pieces of a movie and they're kind of in the right order and stuff. 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.000 I personally disagree with some of the artistic choices. 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:03.000 I think there was way too much heroic self-sacrifice. 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:08.000 Like we're supposed to cry in the first five minutes when there's a heroic self-sacrifice 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:16.000 then there's yet another heroic self-sacrifice. Then there's that spectacularly stupid thing where Leia survives the vacuum of space for some reason. 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:19.000 That's the second movie? That's the second one, isn't it? 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.000 I don't remember them well enough to like take a stand. 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:25.000 I've only ever actually watched them once. They were so... 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:31.000 They were so bad. So there's people that are like, yeah, it's a good movie. 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:36.000 But even with those folks, we can agree that it's not a good Star Wars movie. 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:44.000 And when you're making Star Wars, you should probably make a good Star Wars movie. 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.000 Like it's pretty... It's pretty tough. 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:53.000 Linus clearly forgot about firehorses in space. 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.000 I did forget about firehorses. What are firehorses? 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:59.000 What? Firehorses in space. 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:02.000 I don't know. I don't remember. Is this a thing? 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:14.000 Is this a meme? I have no idea what this is about. Apparently the story treatments that Lucas had written, the first one of the sequel trilogy 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:20.000 would have been the first part of the trilogy, continuing the story of Luke as a Jedi. 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.000 The second one would have featured Luke's sister, distinct from Leia. 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:33.000 Interesting. And the next one after that would introduce the emperor and depict Luke's ultimate battle with him. 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:44.000 Wait, what? That sounds pretty stupid too, to be honest with you. 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:48.000 Leia is an isolated monarch, hence death. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.000 These must be like ancient... Yeah, these are ancient story treatments from 1999. 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.000 Okay, these are not like the new one. Cool. 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:58.000 All they had to do was make the Thrawn trilogy and everyone would have... 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.000 Oh, that would have been so sick. Absolutely loved it. That would have been so sick. 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:04.000 That's all they had to do. They could have recast everyone. 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:07.000 They could have used the guy they casted for a solo story. Sure. 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:10.000 Like, totally. No problem. Easy. 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:13.000 Recast everyone, fresh new young actors for the sequel trilogy. 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:18.000 It's not like we had any returning actors other than Ian McDermid, or however you pronounce his last name, 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:22.000 from the original trilogy to the prequel, so it doesn't matter. 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.000 Cast new people, make that story. 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:34.000 People would have absolutely loved it. They would have bought so much Admiral Thrawn, blue face makeup, and it would have been amazing. 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:41.000 Thrawn is the coolest character in Star Wars, and I will fight you to defend that statement. 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:46.000 I like Obi-Wan. I didn't say you can't like other characters. 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:49.000 I said Thrawn is the coolest character in Star Wars. 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:54.000 He's pretty cool. He overcomes the racist empire because he's just that badass. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:57.000 Is that like... Rises to the rank of Admiral. 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:02.000 Thrawn. Because there's more Thrawn books outside of the Thrawn trilogy, correct? 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.000 Yeah, but I don't know how much I like count them. 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:08.000 Okay. There's one that I really liked, and I just don't know if it's in the trilogy or not. 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:11.000 Sorry, Grand Admiral. Sorry, excuse me. Pardon me. 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.000 I just don't know if it's in the Thrawn trilogy or not, but there's one that I really do like... 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:22.000 I mean, he's such a cool character that they probably just like garbage put him in because, you know... 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:25.000 Or that they probably just put him in like garbage other stuff. 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:28.000 No, he's a super big part of this book, and it was a good book. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:33.000 I just don't know if it was one of the books in the trilogy or not. 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:40.000 I'm not sure. Well, the Thrawn trilogy is Air to the Empire, Dark Force Rising and the Last Command. 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:44.000 Back from the early 90s when the expanded universe was cool. 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:48.000 It might be Air to the Empire. Would you remember plot points if I said plot points? 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:53.000 Probably not, because I read these back in like 1990s something. 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:56.000 Yeah, because I could throw some plot points, but I feel like it's been way too long. 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:59.000 Yeah. Yeah. But it's cool. 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:03.000 It's this like, basically... 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:08.000 I want to call it a duel, but it definitely wasn't a duel. 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:18.000 This like mysterious force from the outer rim of like aliens are trying to invade... 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.000 The outer rim? I'm going to get all my terminology wrong. 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:30.000 I'm not even bothered. I'm not sure, but the like clone evil version of the Jedi guy is super cool, like as a plot thing. 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:36.000 Also, okay, this one might be a controversial one, but I actually loved the Young Jedi Knights books. 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:40.000 I don't think I read those. I mean, that's fine. 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.000 I don't even care. I love them. I thought they were awesome. 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:45.000 I think that would have been a great TV show. 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.000 Yeah. The crazy clone stuff. 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:01.000 So there's Luke Skywalker and Joris Kabaoth or Sabaoth or however you pronounce that. 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:05.000 And they just have like an extra U in their name and they're like the evil cloned one. 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:17.000 It's crazy. Yeah. The one I'm thinking of chat is the one where I think it's like Han Solo takes over a imperial 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:22.000 like defense station that's orbiting a planet and he has to use it. 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:26.000 If I remember correctly to actually fight. 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:31.000 I think kind of both sides or more leaning on the side of the empire or something. 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:46.000 Oh, interesting. And that's happening while Thrawn is using his fleet to fight this like alien fleet and everything's all it's all like kind of everyone kind of playing their own game. 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:51.000 But the three different forces all playing in the same arena at the same time and trying to see what they can come out with. 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:56.000 And it's it's very interesting. And Thrawn's like eight D chesting everyone. 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.000 Nice. It's cool. It's a good book. 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:03.000 I just don't remember what it was. The police cage says for the first time I'm feeling this is drifting too nerdy for me. 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:10.000 Yeah. I mean, I'll be the first to admit that expanded universe Star Wars novels are not exactly the 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:15.000 most mainstream of nerd things, especially because it's pretty cool. 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:25.000 It's well, yeah, but it's been less cool for a long time because like Disney crapped all over it because reading is not cool. 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.000 Well, I do think that could be part of it. 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:33.000 I think it's pretty based to just decide that you get to kind of pick what your own personal canon is. 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:40.000 You can still recognize that it's not really what the canon is, but you can also be like, yeah, I'm going to decide these are the things I care about. 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:50.000 And then Star Wars can still be pretty cool. As long as you don't just make an AI canon, you have to, you have to, where's your line? 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:54.000 Where are you allowed to decide your canon is? I think you could write your own canon. 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.000 You can fanfic it. Oh, sure. 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:01.000 I wasn't even talking about that. But the second you use AI to generate it, I'm over you. 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:08.000 Yeah, sure. Okay. I was saying like you can selectively read and decide to ignore parts. 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:11.000 Can you write your own? 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.000 I wasn't thinking that far. I don't really think that works. 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:18.000 You don't think so? What if you write it down, bind it, and put it on a shelf? 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.000 Now it's a book. If you get it published officially, then sure. 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:27.000 Okay. What if you self-publish though? Then I could also see if it like... 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:31.000 Where's the line? Oh, man. 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:40.000 Do I care about other people's acceptance? Is I feel like what this question is? 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:46.000 I feel like if you can't openly discuss it and have people be able to figure out easily 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:52.000 and have them actually be likely to do so, what you're talking about, then it doesn't really count. 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.000 Okay. All right. Okay. 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:59.000 You know what? Yeah. Publishing a book would do wonders for your wiki. 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:03.000 My God. You know what? You're not wrong. 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:06.000 Oh, man. 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:11.000 Category draft. 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:14.000 He's still in draft. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:18.000 Oh, draft talk. 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:22.000 Okay. Is your book on your wiki? 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:26.000 I doubt it actually. It's looking pretty blank. Looks like it didn't work. 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.000 Okay. Oh. No, no, this is you. 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:32.000 Never mind. Man, how often have they declined this? 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.000 Oh, wow. As recently as this month. 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:38.000 You don't show this person. 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:41.000 I think we can get you there. Okay. 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:45.000 How annoying must this be for Wikipedia maintainers? 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:49.000 The draft contains multiple published secondary sources. 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:53.000 Wait. The draft requires multiple published secondary sources. 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:58.000 Do I just need to call up someone at Tom's hardware to write an article about you? 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:03.000 Like to interview you? Because I feel like we could do that. 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:06.000 What's the real value of that? 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:10.000 I don't know. What's the value of a Wikipedia page? 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:13.000 But I don't care. I know, but that makes it funnier. 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:17.000 Oh, my God. I like it so much more that you don't care about it. 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:20.000 It's great. So then. 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:27.000 Is your book on your Wikipedia page? Then you can be next level cool because you can tell people, I have a Wikipedia page. 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:34.000 But I don't care about it. But I think if you go out of your way to tell people that you have one and also that you 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:39.000 don't care about it, I think you definitely do care. And you could walk away from an explosion at the same time. 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.000 Oh, man. Yeah. Can we get him? 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:46.000 It doesn't care. 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.000 I don't actually need that. I don't need that. 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.000 I don't think your book is on yours. I doubt it. 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:58.000 Yeah. Your book should be on yours. Yeah. 00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:01.000 But nobody knows how many of them we sold. 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.000 Because we self-published it and sold them all through our own store. 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:09.000 So it's not that relevant. In fact, mine is kind of stupid. 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:12.000 No offense. I found a bunch of mistakes in it. 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:16.000 Actually, I think all the mistakes are fixed because I did a segment on WAN Show where 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:23.000 I talked through all the mistakes. But it also just like, I'm not really that relevant. 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:29.000 There's just kind of arbitrary random stuff in it that because no one can decide what 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:34.000 about me is important because none of it's that important. 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.000 He grew up on a hobby farm in Maple Ridge. Oh, good. 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:40.000 This is kind of my point as to why mine doesn't matter, though. 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:43.000 Yeah. But I still think we care. 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:46.000 It matters to me, Luke. 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:49.000 Maybe I don't want to host a podcast with someone who's not important enough to have a Wikipedia 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:52.000 page. Oh, my God. 00:22:52.000 --> 00:23:03.000 Maybe you're dragging us both down. Maybe I don't want to. 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:09.000 Oh, my God. Maybe I don't want to host a podcast with someone with such a useless Wikipedia page. 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:13.000 Oh, no. My heart. 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:18.000 My heart. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:25.000 I worked in bread factory. We just need to have that on there. 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:30.000 You could do a cookbook that just has the one recipe. 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:34.000 There's two. There's two. The 100% success part. 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.000 Hardcover with like one page in the middle of it. 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:40.000 This is the only recipe you need. 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:43.000 It sells itself. I would do that. I would do that for merch. 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:46.000 Oh, yeah. I would do that. 100%. 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:49.000 I would do the holiday soup, too, so you can look good to your family. 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:54.000 That would be the second book. 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:57.000 Each book is one page. 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:01.000 $60. I love that neither of them are actually recipes. 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:05.000 It's just going to be some amount of this. 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:14.000 It's like French cooking vibe. A satisfying amount of kale. 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.000 People would buy it. I know someone would buy it. 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:22.000 Okay. We should start the show. Let's start the show. 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.000 So is your kale? No. No, it's good. 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:29.000 You put it in the soup right before you serve it and then it has some. 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:33.000 It's good. It's good. 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:36.000 Wait. No, I'm going to run to the washroom before we start. 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:39.000 Okay. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:42.000 I'm sorry, everybody. I failed you all. Okay. 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:53.000 Bye. I left that on his Wikipedia page. 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:59.000 Yes. Oh, boy. 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:03.000 Dad. That was so funny. 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:08.000 Oh, oh, I hear gravel. 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:13.000 Do you hear gravel? 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:16.000 I heard gravel. Someone's behind you. 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:19.000 Is that anxiety inducing? 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:23.000 The feng shui of the Wansett is terrible, by the way, for anyone that's watching. 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.000 I'm going to turn your cam on. Oh, yeah, sure. 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:29.000 So where's, wait, where's Dan cam? Broad cam. 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:34.000 Broad cam. So those are doors. 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:41.000 So the feng shui of like producing a live show with doors right behind the producer 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:45.000 is horrible. It's so bad. 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:52.000 It's so terrible. When we're hosting this show, we can hear like everything around us. 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:56.000 Like somebody will open a door at the like other end of this unit. 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.000 It's so extremely. And we'll hear them come in. 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:03.000 We can hear people walking upstairs and we're in this like little box in the corner. 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.000 So we can hear people like orbiting around us. 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:09.000 And it's like, oh, are they going to, like your brain can't help, but be like, are they 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:13.000 going to come all the way around and like say hi or no? 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:19.000 And it pulls so much attention. The, yeah, it's, it's kind of rough. 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.000 It is what it is. I don't know where else we would put it. 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.000 That would be any better, but a new WAN location. Like, no, not really. 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:30.000 Do you hear me when I come in? Yeah, absolutely. I can even often identify people by their walk. 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:33.000 Can we turn it around? Yeah. 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.000 I mean, we hear literally everything. There is nothing. 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.000 There we go. There's nothing above the set. 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:43.000 That's just the ceiling. It's pretty bad. 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:48.000 And to be clear, the set, like the top of the set, you can see the top of the set there. 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.000 So the ceiling doesn't connect with the set. It's just, you see the sprinklers and things like that. 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:59.000 Yeah. Like we can't, we can't. Like there's that, that wood that you can see there is just where the set ends. 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:05.000 It doesn't touch the ceiling. There's like a, I don't know, five foot gap. 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:08.000 Maybe, maybe four, four foot something like that. 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:12.000 Something like that. And the, the panels here occasionally fall on you. 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.000 Yeah. You can see a lot of them are missing. 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:21.000 Yeah. But you see there's sprinklers and we can't have an enclosed building inside and that 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:27.000 sort of thing. It's like, thank you fire codes for keeping us safe. 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.000 Like my new shelves. I got new shelves. Nice shelves, dude. 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.000 Thank you. I miss. I like your shelves, bro. 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:37.000 Hell yeah. Brother. It looks like you clean the shelves too. 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.000 Yeah. I had to. There's less stuff. 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:45.000 I had to go through everything and get it returned to inventory and like, I did that around 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.000 my, my ShortCircuit. I shot a ShortCircuit on Monday. 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.000 Nice. Can you say what it was? Is it embargoed? 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.000 Probably. I think it is. Yeah. 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.000 Yeah. Okay. 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.000 Anthropics. Claude can now control your computer. Isn't this an old topic? 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:09.000 Isn't this just open claw? I don't think it's a new research preview of Claude pro. 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:13.000 Okay. It's not. It was like, wasn't that third party? 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:17.000 Like some dude made it. Oh, I don't know. 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:22.000 That's kind of this is first party. They call it claw because it kind of sounded like Claude. 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.240 Full-plane chat question for you guys and twitch, I guess, but I can't see your chat. 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.240 So I'm still interested in what you have to say, but I don't have it open. 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:35.240 So anyways, um, tech wiki. 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:40.240 It's having a chat the other day about tech wiki and the things that should maybe be on 00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:49.240 tech wiki. Um, since coming back, we did like the spooky Linux command, the most dangerous Linux command 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:56.240 slash, um, and then we had a USB, the last guy delivered need, but the USB video was 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.240 like two weeks ago. What? 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:07.240 I, so there's kind of two questions here. One considering it's called tech wiki are 10 and a half, 11 minute long videos too long 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:17.240 and second would like when open claw was a thing that people cared about talking about 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:20.240 would that have been a video like what the heck is open claw? 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.240 Would that have been a video you would have wanted to see on tech wiki? 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:29.240 Um, would what is an LLM have made sense? 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:34.240 Maybe now, maybe a few years ago, whatever, should we talk about these like currently 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:41.240 top of mind AI topics or should it stick more to hardware? 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.240 I had two questions going on. 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:53.240 What is an LLM isn't a 10 minute video? 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:59.240 I don't actually know what direction you mean that in. Um, I'm assuming you mean it can be shorter. 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:04.240 Something you have to understand is you could make what is an LLM and it have it be a six 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.240 hour long video. 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:16.240 Like the, the length is you can make content fit the length. 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:22.240 It's a fun random trick of, of YouTube and content creation is like it can really be 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:27.240 whatever length you want. 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:32.240 This information, there's a lot of information about what is an LLM would be great if it's 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.240 done properly, need a healthy balance. 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:41.240 Tech wiki can be both conventional topics and current news tech wikis. 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:46.240 And this is still quick, open claw and what is an alarm? 00:30:46.240 --> 00:31:01.240 Huh? Would have been great questions to answer in their time. 00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:07.240 Luke says length isn't important. No, what I'm saying is you can definitely be big enough. 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:13.240 I just need to know how big the thing that we're filling is. 00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:16.240 You know what I mean? 00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:21.240 The general popular big software of the day would be good. 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.240 Yeah, that's what I'm kind of wondering. 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:27.240 Kind of having a think on that. 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.240 Been wondering if I want to like pitch this internally or not. 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:36.240 I also think it makes some of it kind of easier because one of the problems over the years 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:39.240 with Tech wiki was like, man, we've explained what HDMI is already. 00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:42.240 What do we do now? 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:48.240 But there's so many different models coming out and like so much stuff happening in software 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:54.240 or even at like the data center level that I think is pretty interesting. 00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:57.240 I still want to know how they connect GPUs together. 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.240 I've never been able to learn how. NV Link, is that what you're talking about? 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.240 Yeah, but why can't I do that with my desktop GPU? 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:13.240 What is NV Link and why is it? No, no, specifically why does Image Gen like only work on one graphics card? 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:17.240 We definitely work in the data center. We'd need an interview for that, I think. 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:22.240 Yeah, I have no idea where to even find that information. 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:30.240 I think something people kind of maybe forget is that original Tech wikis were like five minutes long. 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.240 Like if I sort Tech wiki by oldest quick in their name. 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.240 The first video is a minute 50. The second video is two minutes and five seconds. 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.240 The third video is a minute 46. Yeah, what is a mouse? 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:46.240 Once you get a little bit further into it, it ends up being like three to six minutes for the most part. 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.240 Yeah, I talked to the new Tech wiki guys actually today. 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.240 And we're going to try to get it back down to like six and a half. 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:58.240 One of the things I was pitching to the audience was like, should we cover AI topics? 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:02.240 Like a Tech wiki on what is Open Claw actually probably would have been pretty nice. 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:09.240 Yeah, that's a good idea. I don't think it needs to be everything, you know, but like explaining these different models when they come out. 00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:13.240 Like when DeepSeq releases their new model and the whole internet goes crazy about it. 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:19.240 We should probably have a like, why does DeepSeq matter video? 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:25.240 In general, just like with things kind of shifting away from hardware, 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:30.240 more towards software, having more software videos. 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.240 And I don't necessarily mean like the most dangerous Linux command explained. 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:41.240 I more mean like... I know, that video was what prompted the meeting I had today. 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:45.240 Because I was like, what is this? It's not a bad video. 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.240 I liked it. But it's not a Tech wiki. 00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:52.240 Not a Tech wiki. But anyway, I did enjoy watching it. 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:56.240 And like I appreciated the team like taking the initiative and like, you know, getting something going. 00:33:56.240 --> 00:34:00.240 Because for a long time there was nothing going. 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:06.240 But we kind of sat down today and like went through the most popular videos, the most recent ones, 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:10.240 the oldest ones and we went, okay, what's a Tech wiki and what's not. 00:34:10.240 --> 00:34:16.240 And there were a few of like very, very popular ones that we looked at and we went, 00:34:16.240 --> 00:34:19.240 that's not a Tech wiki. Or at least it's not a Tech wiki anymore. 00:34:19.240 --> 00:34:22.240 Do you have the popular ones up? Yeah. 00:34:22.240 --> 00:34:26.240 I can show you what I mean. So the one that we decided was, was a Tech wiki when we made it, 00:34:26.240 --> 00:34:29.240 but isn't anymore is how does Netflix work? 00:34:29.240 --> 00:34:32.240 And the reason for that is that eight years ago, 00:34:32.240 --> 00:34:36.240 there might be a question of like, what is a media streaming platform? 00:34:36.240 --> 00:34:39.240 Or what are the benefits of a media streaming platform versus a Blu-ray? 00:34:39.240 --> 00:34:43.240 I'm pretty sure I worked with John on this and this was actually like really cool. 00:34:43.240 --> 00:34:48.240 But today we take the idea, there is no technology explanation for streaming 00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:51.240 that I think a technical user needs to hear. 00:34:51.240 --> 00:34:55.240 We sort of fundamentally understand the idea of encoding video and streaming it over the internet. 00:34:55.240 --> 00:34:58.240 Whereas that was a conversation at that time. 00:34:58.240 --> 00:35:03.240 And then something that we agreed is not a Tech wiki and never was, 00:35:03.240 --> 00:35:06.240 even though it got a lot of views as the wise Windows for you now. 00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:11.240 That's not a Tech wiki. It's a good idea for a video, but maybe that's an LTD. 00:35:11.240 --> 00:35:18.240 Yeah, exactly. And so how much RAM do you actually need was another one that sort of straddles the line. 00:35:18.240 --> 00:35:22.240 If we were going to put in the work to actually test it, it's an LTD. 00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:25.240 If we're just theory crafting it, it's a Tech wiki. 00:35:25.240 --> 00:35:28.240 But with the kind of resources that we have these days, 00:35:28.240 --> 00:35:33.240 what's our excuse for not testing something like that? It's an LTD and we just do the work. 00:35:33.240 --> 00:35:39.240 So we kind of went through and defined what makes something a Tech wiki 00:35:39.240 --> 00:35:42.240 and what makes something not a Tech wiki. 00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:49.240 And so I think we've got pretty good alignment and it should be something that we'll continue to work on moving forward. 00:35:49.240 --> 00:35:54.240 I mean, everything has a thousand moving pieces 00:35:54.240 --> 00:35:59.240 and you can't move one without something above it falling down. 00:35:59.240 --> 00:36:03.240 And so it can be really, we've become a pretty big ship 00:36:03.240 --> 00:36:09.240 and we recognize that we need to dramatically increase our agility. 00:36:09.240 --> 00:36:12.240 If you can read and understand numbers. 00:36:12.240 --> 00:36:15.240 It takes time. If you'll know that we got to make some change. 00:36:15.240 --> 00:36:18.240 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 00:36:18.240 --> 00:36:23.240 But what's a YouTube short? Thanks, Sammy. I think no one needs that explained to them. 00:36:23.240 --> 00:36:26.240 Love it. 00:36:26.240 --> 00:36:29.240 I don't know. Sammy makes those. 00:36:29.240 --> 00:36:32.240 Trab says, for those genuinely wondering this, 00:36:32.240 --> 00:36:35.240 but who aren't informed, wouldn't those videos be pretty good for them? 00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:38.240 But a quick video that would be better on LTD. 00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:42.240 I mean, yeah, maybe just because a topic isn't a Tech wiki doesn't mean it's not a video. 00:36:42.240 --> 00:36:46.240 And I think LTD can be sort of a catch-all for things that might not fit the Tech wiki format. 00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:50.240 And if it's like too quick, then it could be a short. 00:36:50.240 --> 00:36:54.240 Absolutely. To go along with Sammy. The Sammy shorts have been freaking killing it. 00:36:54.240 --> 00:36:58.240 On Tech wiki even. Yeah. So like, that's not necessarily a problem. 00:36:58.240 --> 00:37:04.240 We need long form content because you make a lot more mula from the ads and stuff on long form. 00:37:04.240 --> 00:37:14.240 It's not just make a lot more mula. It's like shorts, unless you're selling something are not financially viable for a media organization like us. 00:37:14.240 --> 00:37:18.240 If you're an individual person, then absolutely. 00:37:18.240 --> 00:37:27.240 I think you can make it work. But if your hope is that you're just going to use like adsense and you're going to have like a media company with shorts, 00:37:27.240 --> 00:37:30.240 it's going to be pretty, it's going to be pretty tough. 00:37:30.240 --> 00:37:35.240 There are lots of really creative ways that people are monetizing shorts outside of adsense. 00:37:35.240 --> 00:37:40.240 But, you know, those ways are not really like the ways that were built, at least not today. 00:37:40.240 --> 00:37:53.240 I mean, it is not inconceivable if the world moves to just people only watch shorts that the media side of our business could dramatically change. 00:37:53.240 --> 00:38:03.240 And, you know, we just make shorts where we feature water bottles and screwdrivers and hoodies or whatever and do, you know, 00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:12.240 checktips and are pretty much a products company that just, you know, has a guy that also makes short form video. 00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:27.240 Like nothing's impossible. And we've been lucky that this space that we occupy has been so steady, as steady as it has been for the last 12, 13 years. 00:38:27.240 --> 00:38:30.240 Like it could have been more tumultuous. 00:38:30.240 --> 00:38:36.240 Before YouTube, it was more, there was more seismic shifts. 00:38:36.240 --> 00:38:42.240 Yeah. I kind of lost it. 00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:45.240 No. No, I think you've still got it, Luke. 00:38:45.240 --> 00:38:48.240 I don't know. No. No. 00:38:48.240 --> 00:38:52.240 Charge. Wait, what? My doesn't know button says doesn't have a Wikipedia page. 00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:55.240 No, Dan, I want my doesn't know back. 00:38:55.240 --> 00:38:59.240 Oh, man. Sorry, sorry. Charge Nuclear, I said that would just be a commercial. 00:38:59.240 --> 00:39:03.240 I try to avoid shorts kind of as much as I can, but the last time I was on there, 00:39:03.240 --> 00:39:07.240 half of them were just steak gambling ads wrapped in a short video. 00:39:07.240 --> 00:39:11.240 But there you go. You know, I think that's kind of what they are just as heads up. 00:39:11.240 --> 00:39:16.240 Another one, Blake Maverick said shorts are a lot of them just are undisclosed sponsorships. 00:39:16.240 --> 00:39:19.240 That's like very rampant on shorts just to be clear. 00:39:19.240 --> 00:39:24.240 Yeah. And it almost seems like it's inherent to the format because it would take too long to disclose it. 00:39:24.240 --> 00:39:30.240 It takes time to disclose a sponsorship. Like people get weirded out that I, that I call out a sponsorship. 00:39:30.240 --> 00:39:34.240 Like when I'm, when I'm doing those Q&A ones and I'm like this, it's sponsored by Mexico. 00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:38.240 And I like, I do a proper disclosure. People are like, what the fuck? 00:39:38.240 --> 00:39:41.240 The line is just sponsored all over the place even on shorts. 00:39:41.240 --> 00:39:47.240 I'm like, bro, the difference is amount of them are the difference is not that I'm sponsored. 00:39:47.240 --> 00:39:50.240 The difference is that a lot of what you're seeing is not disclosed. 00:39:50.240 --> 00:39:53.240 It's, it's weird that it's now. Yeah. 00:39:53.240 --> 00:39:58.240 Anyways, Blake Mavericks also said shorts are a trailer slash preview for the whole channel. 00:39:58.240 --> 00:40:02.240 And I know that was a talking point, potentially even one that we've made in the past. 00:40:02.240 --> 00:40:10.240 That is not how that works anymore for us. That is not how that works anymore for most people because so the audience is almost split. 00:40:10.240 --> 00:40:16.240 People will come on to YouTube to watch shorts or people will come on to YouTube to watch VODs or people will come on to YouTube. 00:40:16.240 --> 00:40:21.240 And their app will just fart a short watch for immediately in their face. 00:40:21.240 --> 00:40:26.240 And then it's not super natural to go from shorts to VODs. 00:40:26.240 --> 00:40:31.240 So like YouTube is actually not doing a good job of making that a funnel if they even want to. 00:40:31.240 --> 00:40:34.240 And I suspect they like might not. 00:40:34.240 --> 00:40:40.240 Crystal says the difference is you don't take the bribe money to not disclose actually not how it works. 00:40:40.240 --> 00:40:47.240 Yeah. So people have a lot of misunderstandings about how sponsorships work in social media. 00:40:47.240 --> 00:40:51.240 I'd love to do like a deeper dive on something like this. 00:40:51.240 --> 00:40:58.240 Maybe, you know, when we have Linus financial tips, hold on, do I have a not financial advice button? 00:40:58.240 --> 00:41:02.240 No, I don't. You know, whatever, like LTT is not the right format for it. 00:41:02.240 --> 00:41:10.240 But I'd love to do a deeper dive on it someday and just kind of talk about it because people have a lot of really weird misunderstandings about how sponsorships work. 00:41:10.240 --> 00:41:19.240 Like they'll see a video where we, where we, you know, ultimately recommend a product but are quite critical of the parent company, for instance. 00:41:19.240 --> 00:41:23.240 And they'll go like, oh, give it a positive review. This is so sponsored. 00:41:23.240 --> 00:41:31.240 It's like no brand would allow you to say anything like that, that, that, that, that and that in a sponsored video. 00:41:31.240 --> 00:41:38.240 And you are absolutely insane if you think that they would like you just clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. 00:41:38.240 --> 00:41:46.240 And, you know, as for, as for brands wanting you not to disclose it for the most part, that's not actually true. 00:41:46.240 --> 00:41:56.240 I don't see that. A lot of overseas brands do not properly understand the disclosures that are mandated by law in most of the West. 00:41:56.240 --> 00:42:02.240 But the ones that do understand it actually have in their contract that you must disclose it. 00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:11.240 Because what a lot of people don't know is that the liability actually falls on the sponsoring brand, not on the influencer themselves for an undisclosed sponsorship, 00:42:11.240 --> 00:42:20.240 which to me is, is made sense back when that law was put in place and I'm talking like the American side of it. 00:42:20.240 --> 00:42:30.240 But these days I'm actually not sure if that does make sense because it has put us in a position where influencers are not disclosing sponsorships 00:42:30.240 --> 00:42:37.240 and as long as brands aren't chasing them and making sure that they're compliant, they're just not disclosing sponsorships 00:42:37.240 --> 00:42:40.240 and there's no consequences whatsoever. 00:42:40.240 --> 00:42:50.240 And it's just, like you said, I think you just use the word rampant to describe the situation on shorts, right? 00:42:50.240 --> 00:42:56.240 Mildly correct says people think this because that's how others treat their sponsors. 00:42:56.240 --> 00:42:59.240 Do you think everyone on YouTube treats sponsors like you do? 00:42:59.240 --> 00:43:06.240 No, I don't. I understand that we have kind of a big to swing around in terms of how we negotiate with sponsors. 00:43:06.240 --> 00:43:12.240 Like I remember chatting with a smaller creator who was out here visiting to do a collab a little while back 00:43:12.240 --> 00:43:16.240 and I basically was like, hey, you should not be signing this exclusivity agreement. 00:43:16.240 --> 00:43:22.240 I strongly advise you not to sign this exclusivity agreement, especially for such a long term. 00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:26.240 Like it was, I forget how many years it was, but it was way too long. 00:43:26.240 --> 00:43:29.240 And I was like, look, like you guys are going to grow your channel. 00:43:29.240 --> 00:43:32.240 I think you guys are really smart. I think that you're really charismatic. 00:43:32.240 --> 00:43:38.240 I think your content's great. I don't see a future where you guys are not growing like crazy. 00:43:38.240 --> 00:43:49.240 And this is a fixed rate for this very long period of time that significantly impedes your ability to talk about other brands that are highly relevant to your content niche. 00:43:49.240 --> 00:43:53.240 I really don't think you should do this. And you don't know what they're going to do in that year. 00:43:53.240 --> 00:43:56.240 You have no control over that external company in the years of really long time. 00:43:56.240 --> 00:44:01.240 But ultimately they decided to take the deal and the rationale that they gave me. 00:44:01.240 --> 00:44:08.240 Well, not that they like owed me an explanation or anything, but we were chatting about it after the fact and they were like, well, it gives us the peace of mind. 00:44:08.240 --> 00:44:14.240 And you know, you got to understand that not everybody is able to go to a brand and simply say no. 00:44:14.240 --> 00:44:25.240 And this is like an overseas brand, which sometimes they don't have the same, you know, norms and the same understanding as more Western brands 00:44:25.240 --> 00:44:29.240 who are used to working with more Western influencers. 00:44:29.240 --> 00:44:33.240 So it's complicated. 00:44:33.240 --> 00:44:44.240 It's complicated. Yeah, we should resume the selected tabek. Let's do that. 00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:49.240 And yes, there are rules about when you're supposed to disclose it. 00:44:49.240 --> 00:44:52.240 No, it's not supposed to be at the end. 00:44:52.240 --> 00:44:59.240 But it is better than just not at all, which it seems like a massive amount of creators are doing these days, especially on shorts have always done. 00:44:59.240 --> 00:45:21.240 I think the I think it's a lot higher on shorts personally. 00:45:21.240 --> 00:45:25.240 Mm hmm. Oh, I thought you clicked it. I heard your mouse click right after he said go for it. 00:45:25.240 --> 00:45:29.240 And I was like, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do it. 00:45:29.240 --> 00:45:39.240 Did you say two double confirms? Yes. Is that four confirms or two confirms? 00:45:39.240 --> 00:45:42.240 Shoot bi-weekly. Which one? That's every two weeks. 00:45:42.240 --> 00:45:45.240 Wait, no, no, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. 00:45:45.240 --> 00:45:48.240 Hold on. Is is twice a year. 00:45:48.240 --> 00:45:53.240 So by annually is every two years. So it must be every two weeks. 00:45:53.240 --> 00:45:56.240 Right. Is it bi-weekly every two weeks? 00:45:56.240 --> 00:46:00.240 I think so. Do you even know the answer? 00:46:00.240 --> 00:46:07.240 You're quizzing me and you don't know the answer. 00:46:07.240 --> 00:46:11.240 Two weeks every two weeks or twice a week. 00:46:11.240 --> 00:46:15.240 That's the dictionary definition. That's brutal. 00:46:16.240 --> 00:46:20.240 Is it a week that can go in either direction? 00:46:26.240 --> 00:46:27.240 Yes. 00:46:31.240 --> 00:46:33.240 I won't let your cushion back. 00:46:46.240 --> 00:46:50.240 What's up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show. 00:46:50.240 --> 00:46:54.240 Okay, seriously though, you need to calm down for a second. 00:46:54.240 --> 00:46:57.240 Because we have a huge show this week. 00:46:57.240 --> 00:47:01.240 And you know how we've been talking about the idea of a good news WAN Show? 00:47:01.240 --> 00:47:04.240 Yeah. We're easing ourselves into it. Okay. 00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:07.240 April is going to be good news WAN Show month. Okay. 00:47:07.240 --> 00:47:10.240 If it's not good news, it's not going to be in the WAN Show. 00:47:10.240 --> 00:47:16.240 What if it's extremely important news? If it's extremely important news, we could maybe have a single car vote. 00:47:16.240 --> 00:47:24.240 It's just on TechLinked. Single car vote or we could do an extremely important bad news WAN Show for the first WAN Show in May. 00:47:24.240 --> 00:47:29.240 We should bring back the really, really dark scene for the single car vote bad news thing. 00:47:29.240 --> 00:47:32.240 We could do that. We could do that. Then people can easily skip it. 00:47:32.240 --> 00:47:38.240 It's going to be a month of good news WAN Show and we're going to be starting with some pretty freaking good news today. 00:47:38.240 --> 00:47:41.240 Sora is dead. 00:47:41.240 --> 00:47:46.240 That's right. Open AI just flipping, flipped the switch. 00:47:46.240 --> 00:47:49.240 It's gone. We're going to be talking about that. 00:47:49.240 --> 00:47:59.240 Also in some mixed news, Meta and Google were found liable in a landmark social media addiction trial. 00:47:59.240 --> 00:48:07.240 We'll get into it a little bit more depth later, but for starters, $3 million in damages to the plaintiff. 00:48:07.240 --> 00:48:10.240 And that may just be the tip of the iceberg. 00:48:10.240 --> 00:48:16.240 What else we got? Or the Zuckerberg. Oh, I wish I thought of that the first time. 00:48:16.240 --> 00:48:26.240 Zuckerberg's tip. Anyways, wine 11 is a game changer in potentially some actually really cool ways and we have a double jeopardy here. 00:48:26.240 --> 00:48:33.240 Bigger battle mage has arrived and Crimson Desert is apparently finally supporting Intel GPUs. 00:48:33.240 --> 00:48:36.240 No one knows why they didn't, but anyways. 00:48:36.240 --> 00:48:39.240 That was a really f***ed up thing for you to say. What? 00:48:39.240 --> 00:48:43.240 Zuckerberg's tip. Why would I want to think about that? 00:48:43.240 --> 00:48:45.240 Hahaha. 00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:12.240 The show is brought to you today by Jawa, Squarespace, Tello and Proton Mail alongside our RAP partner dbrand. 00:49:12.240 --> 00:49:17.240 Our laptop partner Razer and our chair partner also Razer. 00:49:17.240 --> 00:49:25.240 Let's jump right into our headline topic today, which is Sora is dead long live spud. 00:49:25.240 --> 00:49:37.240 On Tuesday, OpenAI announced the demise of the video generation app and API that was front and center in a billion dollar licensing deal with Disney just a few months ago. 00:49:37.240 --> 00:49:42.240 A deal which is also coming to an end according to the Hollywood Reporter. 00:49:42.240 --> 00:49:56.240 OpenAI is also scaling back some of ChatGPT's shopping features as they shift their focus to business and productivity tools, apparently codenamed spud, as they continue down the path towards an initial public offering. 00:49:56.240 --> 00:50:08.240 It is not clear whether the core model will be folded into another model, preserved in some way, or just outright discarded as they walk away from Sora video generation. 00:50:08.240 --> 00:50:22.240 Let's talk a little bit about, to start, the technical side of a video generation service and why that might not be economically viable like ever. 00:50:22.240 --> 00:50:26.240 It could be. 00:50:26.240 --> 00:50:29.240 Okay. For sure. It could be, but. 00:50:29.240 --> 00:50:35.240 Yeah. Two individual end users, I think that's going to be a tough sell. 00:50:35.240 --> 00:50:48.240 I mean, there's been a theory craft that like, you know, fast forward hopefully a lot of years and political campaigns could be custom tailored per person. 00:50:48.240 --> 00:50:51.240 Okay. But again, that's a B2B use case. 00:50:51.240 --> 00:51:04.240 That's not a consumer use case because it's all about who's paying for, yeah, it's about who's paying for the token because at the end of the day, OpenAI has to figure out and they really don't have a lot of time right now. 00:51:04.240 --> 00:51:07.240 What a business model for their product is going to look like. 00:51:07.240 --> 00:51:11.240 Did individual users pay for tokens for on Sora? 00:51:11.240 --> 00:51:14.240 Is that how that worked? My understanding is that. 00:51:14.240 --> 00:51:21.240 I only used it once for that video Riley and I did. Yeah, my understanding is that you would pay for tokens if you want to generate video on it. 00:51:21.240 --> 00:51:32.240 Yeah, that's a little weird. The thing that I suspect could eventually happen is if the platform is trying to generate videos that draw you in. 00:51:32.240 --> 00:51:43.240 Like there's been some people raising alarm bells about how this could be a direction for YouTube where YouTube stops being, well, maybe it starts embracing the name even more. 00:51:44.240 --> 00:51:52.240 And it ends up being content that they're generating for you based on your viewing habits and eventually there are no really creators. 00:51:52.240 --> 00:51:55.240 It's just platforms making content for you as a user. 00:51:57.240 --> 00:52:06.240 I could see viability there, but yeah, I mean, I never really understood the business model of Sora making any sense and I don't think anyone else really did either. 00:52:06.240 --> 00:52:09.240 I don't know a single person who actually really used it beyond the first few days. 00:52:09.240 --> 00:52:15.240 I mean, to me what it was was simply a marketing stunt. 00:52:15.240 --> 00:52:26.240 It was a billboard. I mean, they clearly didn't do the groundwork ahead of time to deal with the licensing issues that they were obviously going to have with it. 00:52:26.240 --> 00:52:30.240 They kind of patched together that deal with Disney. 00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:36.240 I believe that wasn't the only deal they made. They also worked with some influencers to get permission to use their likeness. 00:52:37.240 --> 00:52:47.240 So they generated a bunch of buzz that way, but I heard and I don't know how true this is. 00:52:47.240 --> 00:52:50.240 How much was Sora costing per day? 00:52:50.240 --> 00:53:01.240 Let me see if I can find a credible number, but from my understanding it was costing anywhere from hundreds of thousands of dollars to as much as millions of dollars per day. 00:53:01.240 --> 00:53:06.240 Hold on a second. Where is this from? 00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:13.240 Yeah, I've got this post on Reddit that has zero upvotes, so I think I'm going to just not quote anything from that. 00:53:13.240 --> 00:53:19.240 That's what I was on as well. But CBC reports that an analyst, okay, sure, here we go. 00:53:19.240 --> 00:53:23.240 I will, oh my god, okay. 00:53:23.240 --> 00:53:26.240 Where's the article? 00:53:26.240 --> 00:53:29.240 Oh, there it is. I'm going to derail this a little bit. 00:53:29.240 --> 00:53:33.240 I'm going to derail this a little bit. We're going to come back to it for a second. 00:53:33.240 --> 00:53:37.240 Sorry, Noki, time stamp guy. You're just going to have to kind of work with me here. 00:53:37.240 --> 00:53:40.240 I have a confession to make. 00:53:40.240 --> 00:53:54.240 You ad blocking? I installed Brave on my phone yesterday for the explicit purpose, for the express purpose of blocking an ad from a page. 00:53:54.240 --> 00:53:58.240 This is the first time. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. 00:53:58.240 --> 00:54:02.240 Outside of content. We got them. I have engaged in web ad blocking. 00:54:02.240 --> 00:54:08.240 How's the hat feel? I mean, hypocritical, right? 00:54:08.240 --> 00:54:13.240 Because that's the whole reason that we have the policies we have internally here. 00:54:13.240 --> 00:54:23.240 That's the whole reason that I don't use it is because as someone whose business is supported by ads in a not insignificant way, 00:54:23.240 --> 00:54:31.240 it would have felt very hypocritical for me to block ads personally or for our business to block ads. 00:54:31.240 --> 00:54:38.240 However, I had, and I kid you not, I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true. 00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:41.240 I had no choice, Luke. 00:54:41.240 --> 00:54:48.240 I was forced to block ads. Was it one of those links that effectively, if you click it, it just doesn't work unless you have an ad blocker? 00:54:48.240 --> 00:54:51.240 I'm going to see if I can find the right link. 00:54:51.240 --> 00:54:56.240 Yeah, this is the one. So I'm going to open this link in Chrome here real quick. 00:54:56.240 --> 00:55:02.240 And I'm going to show you what I'm talking about. It's an article I was trying to read on Electric. 00:55:02.240 --> 00:55:06.240 I don't know how well you guys are going to be able to see this here. 00:55:06.240 --> 00:55:12.240 But here's the article. Tesla is not in fact operating an autonomous vehicle service. 00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:15.240 And I wanted to read the comments on this. 00:55:15.240 --> 00:55:18.240 You know what a fan of comments I am. 00:55:18.240 --> 00:55:21.240 Yeah, here it is. It's still, oh, no, no. 00:55:21.240 --> 00:55:25.240 Okay, so it's fixed now, but it's not fixed because they fixed it. 00:55:25.240 --> 00:55:29.240 It's fixed because the size of this banner ad is not as wide as the one that I had. 00:55:29.240 --> 00:55:38.240 So when I opened up this article yesterday, I was getting a banner that was so wide that it covered part of the first comment here. 00:55:38.240 --> 00:55:43.240 Okay, just like this one and extended all the way to cover the expand button. 00:55:43.240 --> 00:55:46.240 So I couldn't click. So tall? I couldn't. 00:55:46.240 --> 00:55:57.240 Yeah, it was taller. And to see the comment section, I literally could not interact with the website in order to use it. 00:55:57.240 --> 00:56:01.240 That's pretty sick. Without engaging an ad blocker. 00:56:01.240 --> 00:56:04.240 Freakin' irritating anyway. On that note. 00:56:04.240 --> 00:56:07.240 Okay, back to this CBC article. One moment, please. 00:56:07.240 --> 00:56:10.240 Let me just... Oh, okay. Oh, wow. 00:56:10.240 --> 00:56:13.240 One of them disappeared. Right, right, right, right, right. 00:56:13.240 --> 00:56:16.240 So yeah, CBC. Hold on. Dollar sign. 00:56:16.240 --> 00:56:19.240 Where are we at? The platform was also, by some accounts, an expensive flop. 00:56:19.240 --> 00:56:24.240 In November, one analyst suggested it cost open AI about $1.30 US to generate a 10-second video. 00:56:24.240 --> 00:56:33.240 That actually doesn't sound that crazy. Based on the 11.3 million daily videos, he estimated this would cost the company about $15 million a day. 00:56:33.240 --> 00:56:43.240 And that's a number that's kind of hard to pin down because how much of your video generation cost is your fixed cost 00:56:43.240 --> 00:56:46.240 and how much of it is your variable cost? Yeah, yeah. 00:56:46.240 --> 00:56:49.240 How much of it is the infrastructure that you had to build? 00:56:49.240 --> 00:56:58.240 GPUs that are already sitting there. In order to accommodate the volume of tokens, the volume of requests you're getting, 00:56:58.240 --> 00:57:04.240 and then how much of it is the actual energy of that actual video generation task that you did. 00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:14.240 And it's hard to decide how much of that fixed cost you amortize across how many of your variable cost individual engagements, right? 00:57:14.240 --> 00:57:17.240 So it's going to be hard for us to say for sure. 00:57:17.240 --> 00:57:30.240 But what I think we can say with certainty is that it was flipping expensive to run with, as far as I can tell, no model to profitability. 00:57:30.240 --> 00:57:36.240 Because you've talked extensively in the past about how expensive it is to run a video hosting platform, right? 00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:48.240 Yeah. And you know what's funny is, and this is going to kind of, this kind of turns the whole idea of AI being an efficiency booster 00:57:48.240 --> 00:57:54.240 and a cost saver sort of on its head. But let me kind of, let me kind of present it this way. 00:57:54.240 --> 00:57:59.240 YouTube has all of the challenges of hosting a video platform, right? 00:57:59.240 --> 00:58:05.240 Whether we're talking VOD or short form or live streaming, you've got to deal with all the encoding. 00:58:05.240 --> 00:58:09.240 You've got to deal with all the storage. You've got to deal with all the bandwidth. 00:58:09.240 --> 00:58:17.240 But YouTube has an army, a literal army of free labor. 00:58:17.240 --> 00:58:21.240 Yeah. Or at least not free commission labor. 00:58:21.240 --> 00:58:26.240 Yeah, like skimmed. So they will be making money the more of them there are. 00:58:26.240 --> 00:58:37.240 Yes. But the humans who are uploading content to the YouTube platform that nobody watches, well, hey, the bandwidth cost is nothing. 00:58:37.240 --> 00:58:44.240 They do have to store it. That kind of blows. And storage isn't getting like cheaper in the marching way that it used to. 00:58:44.240 --> 00:58:47.240 No. So there are still things that kind of blow about that. 00:58:47.240 --> 00:58:51.240 But hey, they didn't pay anybody to make the content. 00:58:51.240 --> 00:58:58.240 So all they have to do is apply their quality filter and algorithm and there's a path to a profitable platform there. 00:58:58.240 --> 00:59:07.240 Whereas on Sora, they had to pay for every single piece of content, no matter how good or how bad it was. 00:59:07.240 --> 00:59:13.240 On top of any encoding and bandwidth and storage. 00:59:13.240 --> 00:59:22.240 I mean, YouTube is already unassailable without them having to pay whether it's a buck 30 or whether it's 13 cents. 00:59:22.240 --> 00:59:31.240 Whatever it is per generated video on the platform, they ain't paying for it unless it makes money, unless it generates revenue. 00:59:31.240 --> 00:59:37.240 So yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty clear that it was, it was a showcase for their latest video generation model. 00:59:37.240 --> 00:59:48.240 And what they're going to do with that, I don't know, because they, yeah, like just going straight pay to play straight B2B is obviously something that they could do. 00:59:48.240 --> 00:59:53.240 But to your point, you know, how big is the market going to be for that? 00:59:53.240 --> 00:59:57.240 And something we haven't even talked about yet is how much competition is there going to be there? 01:00:02.240 --> 01:00:11.240 Not even like right at that time, like at that time, like, oh, AI social media platforms thing, those were, those were, those were a big deal, right? 01:00:11.240 --> 01:00:24.240 Okay, I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out how much it would cost for the YouTube and Twitch live viewership of this show right now. 01:00:24.240 --> 01:00:34.240 Oh, we're still, we're still kind of building up, but there's like 5,200 on YouTube and about 1,800 ish on Twitch. 01:00:34.240 --> 01:00:37.240 So let's say that's 7,000. 01:00:37.240 --> 01:00:45.240 Sure, let's say that. Hours streamed, we've been doing like four, I think. 01:00:45.240 --> 01:00:50.240 We did over four hours last week. I totally didn't realize what was going on until the show was over. 01:00:50.240 --> 01:00:54.240 I looked and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's crazy. 01:00:54.240 --> 01:00:59.240 Let's say, I don't know if we're advanced to HD or just standard. 01:00:59.240 --> 01:01:02.240 I'm not sure. 01:01:02.240 --> 01:01:06.240 Do you want me to do something while you're doing that? Yeah, I can show it right now. 01:01:06.240 --> 01:01:11.240 So we're doing low latency, which I believe it is on YouTube and Twitch right now. 01:01:11.240 --> 01:01:15.240 We're not even looking at chat, but we're doing one channel, channel type. 01:01:15.240 --> 01:01:19.240 I'm just doing standard. I'm not actually 100% sure what the differences between these are. 01:01:19.240 --> 01:01:23.240 Full HD, 1080p, because I think I'm pretty sure we are streaming that. 01:01:23.240 --> 01:01:27.240 Four hours streamed, 7,000 viewers. This tends to go up over the course of the show, 01:01:27.240 --> 01:01:33.240 but let's just keep it where it is for now. And the cheapest area for viewership generally of North America, 01:01:33.240 --> 01:01:37.240 and it's still 2,000 USD. That's wild. 01:01:37.240 --> 01:01:40.240 Wait, shut up. That's live streaming. Live streaming is expensive. 01:01:40.240 --> 01:01:44.240 We don't pay that much for every Floatplane WAN Show stream, do we? 01:01:44.240 --> 01:01:47.240 Well, there's not that many viewers on Floatplane. Right, right. 01:01:47.240 --> 01:01:53.240 Oh, God. There is a decent of viewers on Floatplane, but that's the IVS calculator. 01:01:53.240 --> 01:01:56.240 So like, and obviously you're going to, you're going to start getting like volume 01:01:56.240 --> 01:02:03.240 discounts and stuff. But as far as my understanding goes, like kick is running through IVS. 01:02:03.240 --> 01:02:07.240 Yeah. Which has always been a really interesting part of that whole, 01:02:07.240 --> 01:02:12.240 because IVS is, you know, parent company of Twitch, you know, 01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:19.240 they're 730 chatters on Floatplane, but the chatters menu also doesn't count perfectly because there's different 01:02:19.240 --> 01:02:23.240 forms of ad blocking that can block that. 01:02:23.240 --> 01:02:27.240 And we've never bothered to like do the work to make sure that that's 100% accurate. 01:02:27.240 --> 01:02:30.240 Right. Because it doesn't matter that much. What's the value in that? 01:02:30.240 --> 01:02:34.240 Yeah, it's just like not, there are so many, 01:02:34.240 --> 01:02:37.240 you guys let us know for sure every single week. 01:02:37.240 --> 01:02:42.240 There are like so many things that we could be working on that are probably 01:02:42.240 --> 01:02:48.240 more valuable than that. We are trying to get things like TV app and other things out. 01:02:48.240 --> 01:02:51.240 It's taking time, but they're coming. All right. 01:02:51.240 --> 01:02:54.240 Let's just highlight as we move out of the Sora discussion, 01:02:54.240 --> 01:03:00.240 the time that Luke and Riley tried Sora and played around with it last October. 01:03:00.240 --> 01:03:03.240 That is over at LMG.GG slash Floatplane. 01:03:03.240 --> 01:03:07.240 That's a pretty fun little exclusive over there. 01:03:07.240 --> 01:03:10.240 All right. Dan. 01:03:10.240 --> 01:03:13.240 The paper says headline topic, but we're done that. 01:03:13.240 --> 01:03:16.240 I don't know what to do. You know what? Actually, I'm lost and confused. 01:03:16.240 --> 01:03:19.240 I think I do know what we're going to do. More topics. 01:03:19.240 --> 01:03:22.240 No. Okay. I'll take the paper down. 01:03:22.240 --> 01:03:26.240 There's going to be, there's going to be so... Why do I bother? There's going to be so many topics today, Dan. 01:03:26.240 --> 01:03:29.240 But first I need to... Where are we doing more? Where is it? 01:03:29.240 --> 01:03:32.240 What are you doing? I need to do the CW announcements today. 01:03:32.240 --> 01:03:35.240 Oh, it's like right at the top. I know. I can find it. 01:03:35.240 --> 01:03:38.240 It always is. Listen. Can you bring up the new product? 01:03:38.240 --> 01:03:46.240 Yeah. This week we launched our magnetic cable management flexible arches. 01:03:46.240 --> 01:03:53.240 They flex so you can route cables around corners or on rounded things like table legs and put 01:03:53.240 --> 01:03:57.240 them in all those spots that aren't perfectly flat. 01:03:57.240 --> 01:04:00.240 It looks like a worm. Way more easily. 01:04:00.240 --> 01:04:05.240 We used over molding to keep the magnets in a rigid core while the arch itself can bend. 01:04:05.240 --> 01:04:10.240 So you still get that strong magnetic hold without compromise. 01:04:10.240 --> 01:04:17.240 And the flexibility opens up a ton more options like tighter runs, going around edges, and 01:04:17.240 --> 01:04:23.240 even mixing these with our regular arches to build your setup exactly the way you want. 01:04:23.240 --> 01:04:28.240 You can get yours today at LMG.gg slash flexible arches. 01:04:28.240 --> 01:04:33.240 Also, if you're curious about our design process for these, we broke the whole thing 01:04:33.240 --> 01:04:36.560 down in our newsletter. So you can check that out. 01:04:36.560 --> 01:04:42.240 And if you haven't already, you can sign up for more behind the scenes on how we build 01:04:42.240 --> 01:04:45.240 things. Is this, hold on. 01:04:45.240 --> 01:04:49.240 Are you buying three? Yes, I believe so. 01:04:49.240 --> 01:04:53.240 I don't know if that's super clear. 01:04:53.240 --> 01:04:56.240 Scroll down, scroll down. 01:04:56.240 --> 01:05:00.240 It's a very long description. My eyes are going kind of blurry. 01:05:00.240 --> 01:05:04.240 Product information. There you go. Product information should be above the other one. 01:05:04.240 --> 01:05:07.240 Maybe. Or it should be like in the title or something? 01:05:07.240 --> 01:05:10.240 Yeah. Yeah, we could probably do that. 01:05:10.240 --> 01:05:13.240 I was not the only one that questioned that. Yeah, okay. 01:05:13.240 --> 01:05:16.240 Good to know. Good to know. Nice. 01:05:16.240 --> 01:05:19.240 But yeah, you're getting three. You're not getting one. Solid. 01:05:19.240 --> 01:05:22.240 Here's the newsletter. You guys should definitely sign up for the newsletter. 01:05:22.240 --> 01:05:28.240 It's pretty cool. We're going to be working on doing a lot more of this kind of stuff, putting in some more 01:05:28.240 --> 01:05:33.240 technical deep dives of how we're creating these things. 01:05:33.240 --> 01:05:39.240 So getting into things like injection molding, tooling, dyes, color, all that kind of geeky 01:05:39.240 --> 01:05:42.240 stuff that you might not care about. 01:05:42.240 --> 01:05:45.240 But if you do care about, it's actually really cool. 01:05:45.240 --> 01:05:52.240 I've learned so much just working with the Creator Warehouse team over the years. 01:05:52.240 --> 01:06:00.240 Also on the store, do we still have the, do we still have the tax write-off sale running? 01:06:00.240 --> 01:06:05.240 Yes. It is the final day of the tax write-off sale, March 20th to 27th. 01:06:05.240 --> 01:06:10.240 So if you guys are wanting to pick up a mystery screwdriver for $50 CAD, that's on the global 01:06:10.240 --> 01:06:13.240 store, mystery hoodies for $30 Canadian. 01:06:13.240 --> 01:06:18.240 We have mystery t-shirts for $15, tall shirts, $15. 01:06:18.240 --> 01:06:23.240 We have open box commuter backpacks, but they're like new. 01:06:23.240 --> 01:06:28.240 They're in like new condition, and you can get these for just $130 CAD. 01:06:28.240 --> 01:06:36.240 There's a bunch of really good stuff in this sale. So make sure that you check it out now, because that's a perfect way to send a checkout message 01:06:36.240 --> 01:06:42.240 is picking up something, either the flexible magnetic cable arches or something from the tax write-off sale. 01:06:42.240 --> 01:06:46.240 All you have to do, oh shoot, the mystery screwdrivers are apparently sold out. 01:06:46.240 --> 01:06:50.240 So, well, anyway, going to the hoodie, we apparently have smalls in stock still. 01:06:50.240 --> 01:06:55.240 All you have to do is add something to your cart. Say, I would like my purchase to appear as a checkout message. 01:06:55.240 --> 01:06:59.240 It will show your first and last name, or it can be anonymous if you prefer. 01:06:59.240 --> 01:07:04.240 You type up something and you click, boop-dee-bop-dee, check out. 01:07:04.240 --> 01:07:10.240 Your order will go to, or your message will go to producer Dan, who will reply to it or just pop it up down there, 01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:15.240 or who will curate it for us to do a checkout message response. 01:07:15.240 --> 01:07:18.240 Dan, do you have any? Should we just do them now? Let's do them now. Let's do one now. 01:07:18.240 --> 01:07:22.240 Sure. That's all I got. Hi, specifically Luke. 01:07:22.240 --> 01:07:25.240 It's an interesting name for Luke. Anyway, I like it. 01:07:25.240 --> 01:07:28.240 Specifically Luke. Yeah, it's pretty good. Not Lucas. 01:07:28.240 --> 01:07:32.240 Yeah. Not Lucaniel. Not Lucaziah. 01:07:32.240 --> 01:07:35.240 Maybe that one. Just Luke. Luke-aziah would be okay. 01:07:35.240 --> 01:07:39.240 Actually, I like just Luke, too. Specifically Luke is a good nickname. 01:07:39.240 --> 01:07:43.240 Just Luke it. Dear God. 01:07:43.240 --> 01:07:46.240 Okay, sorry. I'm going to call you that from now on. 01:07:46.240 --> 01:07:51.240 Anyway, what happened to the hype around the 9070 XT? 01:07:51.240 --> 01:07:55.240 I love mine, but everyone kind of makes me wish I got a 5070 Ti. 01:07:55.240 --> 01:07:59.240 Also, I will pay hundreds for a black shaft screwdriver. 01:07:59.240 --> 01:08:07.240 I mean, I think it's just like classic NVIDIA bias where just like, I mean, having what is it, 01:08:07.240 --> 01:08:12.240 95% market share is going to make people. 01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:18.240 Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's necessarily that you like made a bad choice or anything like that. 01:08:18.240 --> 01:08:21.240 It's just, look at that. Look at that. 01:08:21.240 --> 01:08:25.240 Wow. So if people are going to talk about cards, it's probably going to be the cards that 01:08:25.240 --> 01:08:33.240 they have. And if 95% of people have that card, it doesn't even specify the card. 01:08:34.240 --> 01:08:40.240 Wow. There's AMD Radeon TM graphics and there's also AMD Radeon graphics. 01:08:40.240 --> 01:08:43.240 I think these are on board. Yeah. 01:08:43.240 --> 01:08:46.240 I think these are both like. One of them is not trademarked. On board ones. 01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:54.240 So you have to go all the way down to bazillionth place to find a single AMD discrete GPU. 01:08:54.240 --> 01:09:02.240 It's a generation old and they're looking at less than 1% of the market. 01:09:02.240 --> 01:09:06.240 Yeah. Of steam gamers. 01:09:06.240 --> 01:09:12.240 Then you got to go a generation older and more mainstream, newer mainstream. 01:09:12.240 --> 01:09:21.240 How far do we have to go to find a 90 something XT, last gen flagship at 0.5%. 01:09:21.240 --> 01:09:24.240 Oh, fall into 0.27% of gamers. 01:09:24.240 --> 01:09:27.240 Whoopsie doodles. And like it's actually very surprising. 01:09:27.240 --> 01:09:31.240 Vega 8. Hell yeah. 01:09:31.240 --> 01:09:34.240 It's above the 90s. 01:09:34.240 --> 01:09:38.240 Did I miss it? I don't think so. 01:09:38.240 --> 01:09:41.240 I didn't see it. You might have, but I didn't see it. 01:09:41.240 --> 01:09:45.240 Yeah. So like, and it's like just like a lot of things. 01:09:45.240 --> 01:09:49.240 It's kind of a chicken and egg problem to a certain degree where a lot of people are 01:09:49.240 --> 01:09:54.240 just buying NVIDIA and that kind of informs the pre-build market. 01:09:54.240 --> 01:09:59.240 A lot of the pre-build market is only really serving NVIDIA GPUs because of that. 01:10:00.240 --> 01:10:06.240 But then a very surprising for me and likely for you because you seem to be in the community 01:10:06.240 --> 01:10:12.240 of people that's building their own computers, a massive amount of people buy pre-builds 01:10:12.240 --> 01:10:16.240 like way more than I ever would have thought. 01:10:16.240 --> 01:10:19.240 It's a huge market actually. 01:10:19.240 --> 01:10:23.240 Even from brands that you might traditionally think of as DIY. 01:10:23.240 --> 01:10:29.240 Like hardcore. Like MSI apparently is like, I don't know if this is on the record or not. 01:10:29.240 --> 01:10:32.240 Well, whatever I'm going with it. What's Cliff going to do? Yell at me. 01:10:32.240 --> 01:10:36.240 MSI is apparently just like slaying it as a system integrator. 01:10:36.240 --> 01:10:40.240 Yeah. And like, I mean, yeah, it makes sense, right? 01:10:40.240 --> 01:10:45.240 It's not like they don't have motherboards and GPUs. 01:10:45.240 --> 01:10:50.240 So like what? They could sell you a motherboard and a GPU or hear me out. 01:10:50.240 --> 01:10:53.240 Here you go. 01:10:53.240 --> 01:10:58.240 It's just obvious. It just works. It's kind of funny that the hard part is RAM now. 01:10:58.240 --> 01:11:01.240 But normies are scared of building their computers. 01:11:01.240 --> 01:11:07.240 I think that's part of it. I think an actually really surprising amount of it is people just don't want to bother. 01:11:07.240 --> 01:11:15.240 Like I experienced this for the first time kind of as I was ending my time working at 01:11:15.240 --> 01:11:19.240 like Best Buy and stuff like that where there was a buddy of mine who was one of my supervisors 01:11:19.240 --> 01:11:23.240 at Best Buy who had moved on and was doing a more advanced job now. 01:11:23.240 --> 01:11:29.240 And we were chatting. He was talking about how he was going to, he was going to get a computer built by NSEAX. 01:11:29.240 --> 01:11:34.240 NSEAX had a cool service where it wasn't, it was pre-built, but you could configure it 01:11:34.240 --> 01:11:38.240 yourself and then they'd build it for like 50 bucks or something. It was 50 bucks for a long time. 01:11:38.240 --> 01:11:43.240 In fact, I think you could get it as cheap as 25 if you used the old classic PC builder 01:11:43.240 --> 01:11:47.240 interface where we didn't even bother putting together like recommended configs for you. 01:11:48.240 --> 01:11:52.240 Okay. Like 25 bucks for someone to build a computer and they did a pretty good job. 01:11:52.240 --> 01:11:57.240 And they tested it. It was warrantied if I remember correctly. They made sure everything worked and they give you a one year warranty on the system as 01:11:57.240 --> 01:12:03.240 a whole. Yeah. And they treated the sale like a parts sale. 01:12:03.240 --> 01:12:09.240 So a lot of hardware manufacturers will actually give you a different warranty for your parts 01:12:09.240 --> 01:12:12.240 if it was through a system integrator. 01:12:12.240 --> 01:12:17.240 So NSEAX would give you an invoice for all your individual parts and all the boxes and 01:12:17.240 --> 01:12:20.240 packaging and accessories. And then there would be another line item for the build. 01:12:20.240 --> 01:12:24.240 That just says PC build service or something like that. 01:12:24.240 --> 01:12:29.240 So what that means is two and a half years down the line when your NSEAX PC warranty is 01:12:29.240 --> 01:12:34.240 up, you can contact ASUS and get a new motherboard if you are so inclined. 01:12:34.240 --> 01:12:39.240 Yeah. So like I actually knew quite a few people who ended up just going that route. 01:12:39.240 --> 01:12:45.240 I knew people that had gotten computers built by me and then were like, well, like you're 01:12:45.240 --> 01:12:48.240 busy. I didn't want to bother you. And it was like 50 bucks. 01:12:48.240 --> 01:12:55.240 So I just did that. And it was like, okay. So like I ended up knowing a lot of people who were technical and would have been very 01:12:55.240 --> 01:12:58.520 comfortable building their own computer, but just kind of had a lot of other stuff going 01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:02.160 on and they needed a new computer. It's 50 bucks. 01:13:02.160 --> 01:13:08.520 And there's so many things like that. I think it's easy for us to be in our bubble where we go, I'm so passionate about this 01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:13.240 thing and I legitimately enjoy it. Why would anybody pay someone else to do it for them? 01:13:13.240 --> 01:13:17.040 And we forget about all the other things in our lives that we're just not that passionate 01:13:17.040 --> 01:13:26.800 about and we just don't feel like dealing with. Like it took me, this is an embarrassing amount of time, but I had a leak in the differentials 01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:35.760 and a leak in the shocks and I broke the skid plate on this RC car. 01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:44.080 13 years ago and just, just didn't get around to fixing it because I bought it as a kit 01:13:44.080 --> 01:13:48.040 from Arma and so I didn't piece it together. 01:13:48.040 --> 01:13:54.400 I didn't know exactly, you know, what the standard of the particular brushed motor is 01:13:54.400 --> 01:13:58.320 and I'd never actually installed the differential in the first place. 01:13:58.320 --> 01:14:01.480 So I didn't even know how to like get at it and open it. 01:14:01.480 --> 01:14:05.760 And I didn't even know exactly where all the ceiling O-rings were in the shocks. 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:08.840 Like I didn't, I just, I didn't, I'd never put it together. 01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:17.120 So I didn't understand how it went together. And that barrier of not knowing exactly what to Google in order to find the answer that 01:14:17.120 --> 01:14:24.560 you need was high enough that I just, it just sat in my garage for years and years and years. 01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:28.680 Avon Fox says, never put your toys away broken, use this mantra for everything. 01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:32.880 This may surprise you, but the last nine years have been pretty busy for me. 01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:39.000 Yeah. Sometimes you don't really have that, that luxury Peter pointed out like taxes. 01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:45.960 I actually think that's a really good, but you know, a little bit more dramatic comparison 01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:54.880 of like, I could do my taxes. I get my taxes done by an accountant these days just because I don't want to worry about 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.880 it. Yeah. What if I do something wrong? 01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:02.360 Yeah. A kind of really rather, it just didn't go wrong. 01:15:02.360 --> 01:15:06.560 Sometimes the stakes are so much higher than the cost. 01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:09.880 It's the risk reward calculation, right? Yeah. 01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:12.880 Cheaper not to pay them. Yeah. 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:19.160 Speaking of not paying, someone else said it's $50 plus $100 for Windows. 01:15:19.160 --> 01:15:23.800 I'm pretty sure NCX would let you build the computer on the computer configurator without 01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:28.560 Windows. They did. They built Windows to test with and they would just take it out. 01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:33.000 And then they nuked the Windows install. Yeah. So like, no, actually you didn't have to do that. 01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:41.280 NCX was kind of based in some ways. There were some ways that, you know, look, I've made it very clear. 01:15:41.280 --> 01:15:45.000 I didn't agree with some of the direction they were going for the business. 01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:50.440 I've also made it very clear that just because they listened to me would not have necessarily 01:15:50.440 --> 01:15:56.080 meant success. They were headed into a very challenging landscape with Amazon coming hard at Canada 01:15:56.080 --> 01:16:03.880 and New Egg doing the same. But there were some things about NCIX that were pretty cool. 01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:09.040 I had no other computer shop that I can imagine would have let me come in on a weekend, borrow 01:16:09.040 --> 01:16:13.520 their known good working hardware to troubleshoot my computer so that I could buy whatever replacement 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:20.120 part I needed. Like, that was crazy and they were just, they had a pretty, yeah, let's make it work kind 01:16:20.120 --> 01:16:25.320 of culture within the rigid confines of their policies. 01:16:25.320 --> 01:16:30.120 Sure. Yeah. I think the best way that I could probably put it. 01:16:30.120 --> 01:16:35.720 Yeah. And so it's, I don't know, I understand. 01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:40.120 It is frustrating. I do think this is a big part of the reason why we have 95% market share on NVIDIA and 01:16:40.120 --> 01:16:44.000 like, I'm pretty sure zero for Intel, which is why we keep talking about the graphics 01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:48.520 cards because we're trying to help them. Hey, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:55.520 is it time for- Is this a proper topic? Our weekly Intel ARC B580 MSRP check. 01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:58.640 We haven't done this in a long time. Well, listen, I suppose- 01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:03.120 It's not really weekly anymore. It's bi-weekly. So thank you for that, Dan. 01:17:03.120 --> 01:17:06.320 I got a call back in. All right. 01:17:06.320 --> 01:17:10.920 What do we got here? An Asrock Challenger for 300, Steel Legends 309. 01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:16.240 Okay. We've got an Onyx Lumie ARC for 289. 01:17:16.240 --> 01:17:20.240 Do we get any bonuses with it? Do we get any games or anything like that? 01:17:20.240 --> 01:17:23.240 We don't. We don't. 01:17:23.240 --> 01:17:26.680 40 bucks over MSRP. Okay. 01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:34.400 All right. Well, in the midst of the rampocalypse, we can no longer get an ARC B580 for MSRP, but 01:17:34.400 --> 01:17:40.480 there is a silver lining. There's an OpenBox Asrock Challenger, final sale, non-refundable. 01:17:40.480 --> 01:17:45.680 That's for 259. So it's there, OpenBox product disclaimer. 01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:48.960 How scary is this thing? Oh my God. 01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:53.600 Why wouldn't you just link me to it in the first place? Why you make me click two things? 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:58.840 Previously open and unused and... 01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:01.880 Usually do not come with a warranty. 01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:06.180 However warranty may be available if it was never registered by the previous owner. 01:18:06.180 --> 01:18:10.320 That's the... Accessories may or may not be included, can be pretty sketch for certain products. 01:18:10.320 --> 01:18:14.360 Like, if it didn't come with the I.O. shield for a motherboard, I'd be pretty cheesed. 01:18:14.360 --> 01:18:19.440 Yeah, I'd be pretty irritated by that too. With a GPU, I'd say there's not too many accessories I really need. 01:18:19.440 --> 01:18:30.280 Oh yeah, that's fair. Oh, 289, that's a downer, but I also can't go too hard at Onyx or at Intel given the 01:18:30.280 --> 01:18:35.520 current state of things and the fact that that is a 12 gig GPU for 289 and you sure 01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:40.160 as heck are not getting anything with 12 gigs for that cheap from anyone else. 01:18:40.160 --> 01:18:45.160 If Intel is listening, if you guys could somehow flip the script, there's going to be a topic 01:18:45.160 --> 01:18:49.720 in here about how Crimson Desert didn't support Intel cards. 01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:53.880 We'll talk about that more in the future and how it does now. 01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:57.160 But if you want to flip the script on that, it could be really interesting considering 01:18:57.160 --> 01:19:04.320 it does now. Get it optimized a little bit and then bundle it. 01:19:04.320 --> 01:19:08.680 That'd be crazy. To take it from like it didn't work at all to it's now bundled with the card I think 01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:12.680 would be really cool. It's crazy. I'd love that. 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:24.200 And I think Crimson Desert, Steam, Intel now, yes, I was totally born in 1983 on January 01:19:24.200 --> 01:19:27.320 1st. Yeah, it's very positive. People seem to like it. 01:19:27.320 --> 01:19:30.680 I haven't played it, but 83% positive. 01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.680 Wow. Yeah. Yeah, it's impressive. 01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:39.520 Yeah. All right, cool. For a while, a 5060 with only eight gigs of VRAM is $370. 01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:44.040 So Arc B580 is still looking like a pretty spectacular value. 01:19:44.040 --> 01:19:47.360 If you buy one, I think we have an affiliate code. I always forget what it is. 01:19:47.360 --> 01:19:51.240 Is it just LMG.gg slash new egg? Floatplane chats got me. 01:19:51.240 --> 01:19:54.240 Thanks Floatplane Chat. What did they say though? I didn't see it. 01:19:54.240 --> 01:19:57.760 Yeah, LMG.gg slash new egg. Nice. 01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.280 All right, should we jump right into a new topic? Yeah. 01:20:01.280 --> 01:20:04.280 Routers? Actually, I want to go with some good news. 01:20:04.280 --> 01:20:07.280 Can we do some good news? Can we do some good news? Let's do some good news. 01:20:07.280 --> 01:20:10.280 Do you want to do some medium news? Nope. I want to do good news. 01:20:10.280 --> 01:20:16.600 Wine 11 looks like an absolute flipping game changer. 01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:21.640 And the timing of this, right in the midst of Linux challenge, while we're talking about 01:20:21.640 --> 01:20:25.440 it, did you see that Reddit thread on the LTT subreddit this week? 01:20:25.440 --> 01:20:29.800 Someone's like, I decided to do the Linux challenge alongside Linus, Elijah, and Lidia. 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:33.280 Yeah, I saw that too. Not going back. Really cool. 01:20:33.280 --> 01:20:41.600 All right. The first time wine 11, so wine is short for wine is not an emulator. 01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:52.280 It's the foundation of Proton and running x86 games on Linux, anywho, wine 11 uses NTSync, 01:20:52.280 --> 01:20:59.840 a wine specific implementation of the NTSynchronization primitives, mutex, semaphores, events, et cetera, 01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:04.360 that are baked deep into the Windows kernel that are relied upon to keep the various threads 01:21:04.360 --> 01:21:10.360 of modern, multi-threaded applications, particularly games, coordinated. 01:21:10.360 --> 01:21:16.160 Up until now, wine and, by extension, Proton have utilized eSync and fSync, which were 01:21:16.160 --> 01:21:23.320 clever workarounds that were developed by Elizabeth Figuerra at CodeWeavers, which had some issues 01:21:23.320 --> 01:21:27.680 and it's not her fault. But were a massive jump. 01:21:28.040 --> 01:21:32.320 But they had some challenges because they just weren't deep enough. 01:21:32.320 --> 01:21:37.000 With NTSync, Figuerra abends the approach of trying to replicate Windows behavior with 01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:43.240 existing Linux primitives and instead introduces a new kernel driver now, going kernel, baby, 01:21:43.240 --> 01:21:49.760 that directly models the NTSynchronization API and exposes a slash dev slash NTSync device 01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:56.400 for wine to talk to. These new features have already been in use in some distros, including Bazite, but beginning 01:21:56.440 --> 01:22:02.640 with kernel 6.14, the changes have been merged into the mainline Linux kernel, meaning that 01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:07.600 users of more mainstream distributions won't have to go out of their way to benefit from 01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:16.720 the new code. Awesome. Now, for many changes, for many games, this is going to be a small or even completely 01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:23.120 insignificant change, but for some games, particularly heavily multi-threaded games, 01:22:23.120 --> 01:22:30.400 the impact is pretty impressive. Dirt 3 is highlighted here. 01:22:30.400 --> 01:22:41.160 That's ridiculous. Went from 110.6 to 860.7 frames per second. 01:22:41.160 --> 01:22:47.760 Tiny Tina's Wonderlands jumped from 130 to 360 and some previously unplayable games outright 01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:51.680 like Cod Black Ops 1 are now playable. 01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:56.880 In other wine news, Wine 11 now has its own complete implementation of WoW64. 01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:00.240 So that's Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit. 01:23:00.240 --> 01:23:04.440 The subsystem that allows 32-bit and even 16-bit Windows applications to run on 64-bit 01:23:04.440 --> 01:23:08.200 systems without needing multi-lib packages. 01:23:08.200 --> 01:23:12.520 That is so cool. There's a bunch of other smaller updates and tweaks that all come together to make the 01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:15.800 experience of Windows gaming on Linux the best it's ever been. 01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:19.680 And you can check out Dan, do you want to throw the link to the XDA developer's article 01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:23.680 that brought this to our attention in the various chats? 01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:26.920 Another thing that feels fantastic... Wow, voice crack. That feels fantastic about this. 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:29.560 I am really excited to vote on Wine 11. 01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:36.280 Another thing that's really exciting about this is you seem to be cursed in regards 01:23:36.280 --> 01:23:41.520 to timing, right? There was the weird steam bug the first time, and then there was the whatever, I don't know, 01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:47.200 I don't follow POPOS, but that thing with the desktop environment that happened this 01:23:47.200 --> 01:23:53.360 time. Cosmic. This is the first time, I think, that the timing has actually been really good. 01:23:53.360 --> 01:23:58.160 Yeah. Because this has happened... Okay, we're saying we're in the middle of the Linux challenge. 01:23:58.160 --> 01:24:01.720 I think we're over 30 days. Okay. 01:24:01.720 --> 01:24:06.520 Yeah, but I'm... I noticed you were still running it on your laptop. 01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:11.440 I saw that when we were setting up for the show. 01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:17.760 I'm clearly still Linux-pilled right now. 01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:25.920 I know at this point, I really, really don't see myself going back to Windows on my laptop. 01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:34.960 I had to use Windows, I had to. Use Windows on someone else's system recently, and it was very icky. 01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:39.280 You rage out about it, like just about every week before we start the show on this machine. 01:24:39.280 --> 01:24:42.280 Yeah. Yeah. Cos, like, something will happen. 01:24:42.280 --> 01:24:45.400 Like, some AI thing will reinstall itself or... 01:24:45.440 --> 01:24:48.840 Recall is back on here after Dan scrubbed Recall off the system. 01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:53.320 It's like, right now, it's running okay. I don't know how it's using 50% of its RAM. 01:24:53.320 --> 01:24:58.160 That's insane, but it's not going crazy with the fans. 01:24:58.160 --> 01:25:04.720 It was previously because of failing to install Windows updates, but it's just kind of... 01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:07.920 There's ads, there's little pop-ups all over the place, they're just kind of annoying. 01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:11.960 So at this point, I'm not having any problems with my laptop, and it's actually been more 01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:19.520 productive to have Linux installed. I've spent less time fiddling with my operating system with Linux installed than with Windows. 01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:23.600 So there's no way I'm going back on my laptop. I still have issues. 01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:29.280 The Teams for Linux, like that weird web app thing, mostly works really great. 01:25:29.280 --> 01:25:33.920 My webcam is still not working, but that's a separate issue. 01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:37.040 Is it working in other applications? No. 01:25:37.040 --> 01:25:44.200 But Teams for Linux is just... It doesn't allow me to click a link, and then just open in my browser. 01:25:44.200 --> 01:25:49.480 If I click a link in here, it just doesn't do anything. 01:25:49.480 --> 01:25:52.680 Oh, that's strange. I have not. 01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:59.480 Yeah. So there's definitely... But I mean, realistically, is it that much work to right-click, copy link, and then I 01:25:59.480 --> 01:26:03.480 can paste and go? 01:26:03.480 --> 01:26:12.720 It is an extra step, though. It was a few extra steps, but you know what I didn't have to do is reaffirm for the umpteen 01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:17.440 billionth time. No, I don't want this to open an edge. No, I do not, in fact, want this to open an edge. 01:26:17.440 --> 01:26:20.480 So it's not even necessarily that much less clicking. 01:26:20.480 --> 01:26:24.160 Like, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't, right? 01:26:24.160 --> 01:26:27.280 So I might as well be damned in my own way. 01:26:27.280 --> 01:26:30.280 Yeah. You know? Peter has a take here. 01:26:30.280 --> 01:26:35.240 Peter from Flow Plane says, my personal take is personalization is a red herring. 01:26:35.240 --> 01:26:38.440 A proper Linux system just works, and there's no need to tinker. 01:26:38.440 --> 01:26:41.480 That's a big part of what I'm talking about when it comes to my laptop. 01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:44.840 I have Linux Mint running on my laptop, and I've had to do nothing. 01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:50.760 Everything has just worked. It gets out of my way. The updates are really easy, easy to deal with, unproblematic. 01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:54.920 There's no, like, are you sure you want to not save this to OneDrive? 01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:58.200 Are you sure? Do you want me to recall that for you? 01:26:58.200 --> 01:27:01.440 Yes, I'm sure! Do you want to open this web page and edge? 01:27:01.440 --> 01:27:06.600 There's just, like, none of that stuff. Would you like me to stay, would you like to stay signed in? 01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:09.600 Yes! For the 40 trillionth time. 01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:12.600 I would! Yeah, so there's none of that. 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:17.600 I click the button, I click the button, don't ask me again every time. 01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:22.600 And, like, I haven't even changed my background on my laptop, let alone, like, anything else. 01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:26.280 Like, I've done, I've done nothing. 01:27:26.280 --> 01:27:30.320 My desktop I've done more tinkering with, but, yeah, my laptop I've done nothing, I'm 01:27:30.320 --> 01:27:36.320 very happy with it. Would you like to sign in to just this application or system-wide? 01:27:36.320 --> 01:27:41.240 Just this application! How many times do I have to tell you? 01:27:41.240 --> 01:27:45.440 Every time. Because they want it to be system-wide. Would you like to sign in to MS Paint? 01:27:45.440 --> 01:27:48.440 No! Ever! Oh, dude! 01:27:48.440 --> 01:27:53.040 Not ever. Dude! Oh, man, sorry, I'm going off, I'm going off now. 01:27:53.040 --> 01:27:59.920 Because- It's Linus's turn, I like this. I got an email, I got an email earlier this week from SwiftKey, okay? 01:27:59.920 --> 01:28:02.960 From SwiftKey. And I'm going to show this to you. 01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:07.680 Because this- They got it. This killed my brain, okay? 01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:13.600 So first of all, first of all, I'm mad because they are- they're cramming OneDrive so far 01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:17.720 down my throat that it's going to come out my butt, okay? 01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:22.680 From Microsoft, we're writing to let you know that SwiftKey accounts will be retired as 01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:29.840 of the 31st of May, 2026. To ensure a smoother, more secure experience, we'll be transitioning to standard Microsoft 01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:33.000 account sign-in for all users. 01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:39.200 Why this change? Well, it's part of our effort to make SwiftKey better, sure. 01:28:39.200 --> 01:28:46.880 Know it isn't. Blah, blah, blah. Your typing data will be more securely stored in, you guessed it, OneDrive. 01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:52.680 Okay, you'll benefit from enhanced privacy, blah, blah. You get a thousand Microsoft reward points, whatever those are. 01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:56.320 It simplifies your experience by using the same credentials you already use for other 01:28:56.320 --> 01:29:01.120 Microsoft apps and services. Fair enough, I have a Microsoft account. 01:29:01.120 --> 01:29:07.520 So sure, fundamentally, this doesn't make a difference to me. 01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:11.120 If it worked, okay, what does this mean for you? 01:29:11.120 --> 01:29:14.240 If you already use Microsoft to sign into SwiftKey, your data will be backed up to OneDrive 01:29:14.240 --> 01:29:20.680 as soon as it's ready. No further action is needed. Okay, first of all, Microsoft, I mean, you have my account. 01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:24.720 You emailed me, so you clearly know how I sign in. 01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:27.960 Do I use a Microsoft account? I don't know. 01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:31.960 You tell me. I probably haven't signed into SwiftKey in like a year. 01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:38.720 That's just for starters. Hold on. If you signed in with a different account, e.g., Google or Apple, you'll need to connect 01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:45.240 a Microsoft account to continue backing up your data. If you don't have an existing Microsoft account, you can easily create one with the same link 01:29:45.240 --> 01:29:48.700 below. Okay, fair enough. 01:29:48.700 --> 01:29:57.960 Connect your Microsoft account now. Oh my God, this works on mobile. 01:29:57.960 --> 01:30:02.840 That is hilarious. Okay, well, I went on a whole rant because I did it on desktop. 01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:08.400 Here, I'm going to show, okay, now I have to show you this to show I'm not crazy. 01:30:08.400 --> 01:30:13.640 Yeah, I mean, it is a mobile application, but it's an email, so like... 01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:17.240 So I opened it on my laptop. Yeah, yeah. One second. 01:30:17.240 --> 01:30:21.240 SwiftKey. Okay, this is crazy. 01:30:21.240 --> 01:30:26.040 Okay, I'm going to click it on here. 01:30:26.120 --> 01:30:34.120 Connect your Microsoft account now, and it literally just dumps me on the SwiftKey home 01:30:34.120 --> 01:30:37.120 page. Yeah. It doesn't take me to the account. 01:30:37.120 --> 01:30:41.960 Hold on, hold on. I'm going to use my Linux superpower, super granular screen brightness here. 01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:45.200 Okay, it just dumped me on the SwiftKey home page. 01:30:45.200 --> 01:30:50.520 There is nothing on here about anything to do with account migration, nothing. 01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:54.600 There's a link to the Google Play Store, view-supported languages. Luke, back me up on this. 01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:58.320 Oh yeah, for sure. Back me up on this, okay? Here's my... 01:30:58.320 --> 01:31:05.080 Just so I can prove, no Tom Fullery, here's the same email, I'm clicking the same link. 01:31:05.080 --> 01:31:08.080 You watched me do it. I think I watched her the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:31:08.080 --> 01:31:11.080 Here's the page. Okay? Yeah, yeah. 01:31:11.080 --> 01:31:18.240 Okay, because I use Google to sign in, and so I went and I signed into my SwiftKey account 01:31:18.240 --> 01:31:22.080 also on my laptop, because I happened to be on my laptop when I got the email. 01:31:22.080 --> 01:31:26.120 There was nothing in there about where the data was stored, because I was pretty sure 01:31:26.120 --> 01:31:29.720 I used a Google account, and there was just nothing in there. 01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:37.360 You probably would have. So the only way to access this flow is to happen to open it on mobile. 01:31:37.360 --> 01:31:46.720 That's crazy. MRO Mutt says, thanks for making me feel normal about this whole SwiftKey thing. 01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:51.680 I went through the exact same thing. That's crazy. 01:31:51.680 --> 01:32:02.440 Why would you send me to just your home page if I open it on desktop or a laptop? 01:32:02.440 --> 01:32:05.800 You're Microsoft. You know about laptops. 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:10.400 All right, okay, I'm marking that on red now so that I can deal with this later, because 01:32:10.400 --> 01:32:14.480 I actually would strongly prefer not to lose my dictionary. 01:32:14.480 --> 01:32:22.600 SwiftKey is a significant part of my stickiness on Android, because on iOS it sucks, and I've 01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:27.800 never actually verified this, but I assume it's due to Apple's better privacy around 01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:32.880 third-party apps and being able to monitor what you type. 01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:37.960 But for better or for worse, I've used SwiftKey for like 10 years now, and it has an extensive 01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:42.680 dictionary of everything that I need to talk about, which includes a lot of tech terms, 01:32:42.680 --> 01:32:53.840 and I care about not having to correct the same ducking thing a million times, and so 01:32:53.840 --> 01:32:59.680 having a dictionary that really works is really important to me and makes me more productive. 01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:03.160 I would really like to keep my SwiftKey library, so yeah, I'm going to fix that now. 01:33:03.160 --> 01:33:06.160 Sorry. What were we talking about? I don't remember. 01:33:06.160 --> 01:33:09.360 Just Linux stuff in general. Yeah. I think we're talking about how the Linux challenge is going. 01:33:09.360 --> 01:33:15.760 I realized, I think it was yesterday, that I should ask, like, oh, when is the Linux 01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:23.480 challenge over? When last time, I'm pretty sure we were getting like weekly updates and all talking together, 01:33:23.480 --> 01:33:26.920 but like when we were allowed to go back, and I thought it was interesting that there 01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:32.720 hasn't really been a lot of chatter, and with how it's been being filmed, I feel like it's 01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:38.040 going to be going on for like a while longer, and I'm totally fine with that. 01:33:38.040 --> 01:33:44.160 I think the only thing drawing me back right now ... Is there like an impending game launch or something? 01:33:44.160 --> 01:33:47.160 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I really liked Forza Horizon 5. 01:33:47.160 --> 01:33:50.400 I didn't play any of the previous ones, but I had honestly a lot of fun with Forza Horizon 01:33:50.400 --> 01:33:58.240 5. It's a great game, and Forza Horizon 6 is coming on May 19th, but I genuinely, with the experience 01:33:58.240 --> 01:34:02.360 that I had very recently of using someone else's Windows machine, I genuinely think I might 01:34:02.360 --> 01:34:06.240 dual boot and just treat it like turning on a console. Right. 01:34:06.280 --> 01:34:09.840 I'll dual boot, play Horizon, when I'm done, just boot back into Linux. 01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:13.360 Do you think it'll work on Wine 11? No. 01:34:13.360 --> 01:34:18.200 Ah, I'm pretty anti-dual boot. I don't know if I can explain why. 01:34:18.200 --> 01:34:22.800 I don't love it. I don't like it either. It's like ... It feels like ... 01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:26.440 Forza Horizon is supported on Linux? Really? Horizon 5 is gold, apparently. 01:34:26.440 --> 01:34:29.480 Really? I just looked it up on ProtonDB while you were talking about it. 01:34:29.480 --> 01:34:32.880 Wow. Yeah. I didn't expect that. 01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:37.880 I didn't expect that because of the multiplayer. 01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:42.120 That was my guess. Is cheating a major issue in Forza Horizon? 01:34:42.120 --> 01:34:48.080 I don't think I ever played online. I don't care at all. It was the single-player game that I wanted to play. 01:34:48.080 --> 01:34:51.760 Even if you just can't play multiplayer or whatever, that is completely fine for me. 01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:56.920 I do not care. Okay. Chat says it has a stupid amount of cheating. 01:34:56.920 --> 01:34:59.920 Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm not too surprised. 01:34:59.920 --> 01:35:04.160 Yeah. Didn't Valve just ban a million accounts? 01:35:04.160 --> 01:35:07.480 I didn't see that in the doc. I didn't see that this week. 01:35:07.480 --> 01:35:10.480 A million? Yeah. That's wild. 01:35:10.480 --> 01:35:13.480 Accounts. They're all playing CS. Yeah. 01:35:13.480 --> 01:35:17.760 Nearly a million cheaters banned in Counter-Strike 2. 960,000 accounts. 01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:21.600 Cheaters are just in everything now. You know what's so funny? It's crazy. 01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:26.520 It's the first thing I was about to say when I read out that chat that, yeah, cheating 01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:31.640 is everywhere in Forza Horizon 5 was like, who would want to cheat in a racing game? 01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:35.080 And then I was like, okay, right, but like I could apply that exact same logic. 01:35:35.080 --> 01:35:38.280 Who would want to cheat in a shooting game? Who would want to cheat in a strategy game? 01:35:38.280 --> 01:35:42.040 You know, wouldn't that just defeat the entire purpose of playing the game and determining 01:35:42.040 --> 01:35:45.040 who's better at the game? Right. 01:35:45.040 --> 01:35:48.600 Yeah. Same logic applies across the board, I suppose. 01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:52.840 It's not just... Okay. So someone pointed out those accounts would AFK CS games to get weekly case drops. 01:35:52.840 --> 01:36:00.960 Yeah. I heard that was a thing. I saw where somebody joined a public match as a spectator and all the bots detected that 01:36:00.960 --> 01:36:04.760 someone was a spectator, meaning they could see their gameplay and they just all disconnected 01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:09.760 at the same time. And it was like a massive percentage of the lobby, just all auto-disconnected. 01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:16.240 But I've also heard that people in ranked games will just like openly on the mic ask 01:36:16.240 --> 01:36:21.480 each other if they're cheating and if like 4 out of 5 of the players are cheating, they'll 01:36:21.480 --> 01:36:26.640 just vote kick the fifth one. 01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:34.040 I don't know if it's like real. It could have been staged and acted out, but yeah, it's like way too much. 01:36:34.040 --> 01:36:37.840 But yeah, the Forza Horizon 5, the single-part campaign was amazing. 01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:44.240 All the additional add-ons were really cool. They collaborated with Donut and there's like a Donut Media little like mini challenge 01:36:44.240 --> 01:36:48.040 thing in it, which was like pretty sweet where you had to like build up a car and blah, blah, 01:36:48.040 --> 01:36:54.840 blah, blah, blah. It was awesome. I've been looking forward to six, but I mean, if it has a gold rating, maybe I'll just 01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:58.960 wait and then play it on Linux anyways. I don't need to play on release day. 01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:03.240 I don't care about that. And Ballard says real racers and real race cars are cheating too, you know. 01:37:03.240 --> 01:37:06.640 Mercedes this year and their F1 engine is probably legal. Okay, that one I understand. 01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:12.960 That just like is big money involved. Yeah. And that's like as far as my understanding goes, it's part of the fun of F1 is watching 01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:16.760 the different teams and how they work around the rules and then adapting year to year. 01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:22.520 It's like a bunch of people that I know that watch, watch it because they find the technological 01:37:22.520 --> 01:37:26.360 engineering side of it to be more interesting than anything else. 01:37:26.360 --> 01:37:34.080 So I don't know. All right. Why don't we jump into another topic here? 01:37:34.080 --> 01:37:39.360 Maybe we should do a short one here. Sure. This is just more of an FYI than anything else. 01:37:39.360 --> 01:37:44.200 Ubiquity has patched three significant flaws in their software and firmware, including 01:37:44.200 --> 01:37:51.320 a path traversal vulnerability found in version 10.1.85 and earlier of the Unify network 01:37:51.320 --> 01:37:58.160 application, aka Unify controller and Unify Express version 9.0.114 and earlier. 01:37:58.160 --> 01:38:04.120 See the security advisory for details and patch as soon as possible. 01:38:04.120 --> 01:38:07.160 Very, very important because that's really bad. 01:38:07.160 --> 01:38:10.680 It can allow account takeover. So patch all your Unify stuff. 01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:16.000 Please, please, please, please, please. And the source here is Ubiquity. 01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:22.080 Here's the advisory bulletin. You're going to want to let more people than this need to see it and make sure that they 01:38:22.080 --> 01:38:28.400 act on this. This is very, very important network infrastructure not to be taken lightly as far as security 01:38:28.400 --> 01:38:31.400 goes. I'm doing it right now. Okay. 01:38:31.400 --> 01:38:34.400 Hopefully you're like home stuff. Okay. Good. 01:38:34.400 --> 01:38:37.400 Okay. I was like, this is it. No, no, no, no. 01:38:37.400 --> 01:38:40.400 No, I don't do that anymore. No. Okay. 01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:43.680 On the subject. I'm sorry. On the subject. 01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:52.800 I had to intervene there. On the subject of networking infrastructure and security, routers are illegal in America 01:38:52.800 --> 01:38:58.320 now. Okay. That's a bit of a sensationalist headline, but it's also not that far off. 01:38:58.320 --> 01:39:04.480 An FCC policy update earlier this week effectively bans the sale of consumer grade routers that 01:39:04.480 --> 01:39:12.000 are not made in the US, which as far as we can tell is pretty much all of them, except 01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:18.240 some percentage of Starlink routers, unless they have already received FCC authorization. 01:39:18.240 --> 01:39:21.840 I think it's going to be a lot of them, which is, which is all of them. 01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:24.840 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. 01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:29.600 And so this is kind of like the drone thing. Yes. Remember when they banned all non-US made drones and, but then all the ones that are for sale 01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:37.120 now are fine. Honestly, to me, this kind of rhymes with China banning battery banks that aren't made in 01:39:37.120 --> 01:39:41.120 China. Is that the case? It's something like that. 01:39:41.120 --> 01:39:44.120 Oh, no, no, no. It's a particular Chinese certification. 01:39:44.120 --> 01:39:47.120 CCC or whatever. Yeah. That's not made in China. 01:39:47.120 --> 01:39:53.200 That's, that's separate. That's separate. But as far as my understanding goes, it's almost entirely ones that are made in China? 01:39:53.200 --> 01:39:56.760 Well, I mean, most battery banks are made in China. 01:39:56.760 --> 01:40:00.120 But like, say hypothetically. CCS. 01:40:00.840 --> 01:40:07.320 Say hypothetically, no, it's CCC, I believe. Okay. Say hypothetically, we were to make a battery bank. 01:40:07.320 --> 01:40:15.200 You could get it certified for that. And let's say our cells were made in hypothetically, you know, Korea or, you know, somewhere, 01:40:15.200 --> 01:40:20.120 and our PCBs were made, you know, wherever, and, you know, whatever, right, stuff, right? 01:40:20.120 --> 01:40:24.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We could totally just do CCC certification. 01:40:24.440 --> 01:40:32.000 Nothing would prevent that. Because is, are there certification houses outside of China that do that certification? 01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:35.680 No idea. But finding a certification house in China for battery banks is- 01:40:35.680 --> 01:40:38.680 Gotta be easy. Is pretty simple. They gotta be all over the place. 01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:42.920 Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, there is a little bit more to talk through on this one. 01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:48.760 It's not clear exactly what constitutes consumer grade, but foreign made appears to be anything 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:53.720 physically manufactured outside the U.S. regardless of what country the company is based in. 01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:58.720 This policy change comes after the commission received a national security determination, 01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:02.920 which states that vulnerabilities in foreign made, small, and home office routers represent 01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:10.160 unacceptable risk to Americans. An FCC fact sheet clarifies that the update does not prohibit the import, sale, or use 01:41:10.160 --> 01:41:15.000 of any existing device models that the FCC previously authorized. 01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:22.440 All new models will need to be approved by DOW of DHS or, oh, or DHS, I think that probably 01:41:22.440 --> 01:41:25.960 means I'm going to go with OR. There. 01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:31.800 The FCC notice also offers some details on how companies can obtain conditional approval 01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:38.120 with exactly zero questions about security, but it must include a detailed time-bound 01:41:38.120 --> 01:41:42.280 plan for onshore manufacturing to the U.S. 01:41:42.280 --> 01:41:45.880 In statements to the Verge, both TP-Link and ASUS expressed confidence in the security 01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:49.120 of their respective supply chains, and neither company gave any indication that they would 01:41:49.120 --> 01:41:53.520 move any manufacturing capacity to the U.S. for consumer routers. 01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:56.920 You want some real expensive routers? Yeah. 01:41:56.920 --> 01:42:02.200 I mean, is that our conversation or our discussion topic for this one? 01:42:02.200 --> 01:42:06.720 There's some like, I don't know how I'd find this. 01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:17.880 Serve the Home had a video on it, or was it Serve the Home? Serve the Home was on Geerling's channel, I think, talking about a really cool looking, 01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:22.600 I'm pretty sure it was a router, but it was very expensive. 01:42:22.600 --> 01:42:29.280 I mean, yeah, Serve the Home is talking about it, it's probably expensive. 01:42:29.280 --> 01:42:34.160 That's a circle. Things Serve the Home covers and things that are very expensive, perfect circle, completely 01:42:34.160 --> 01:42:41.240 overlapping. Yeah. I mean, he does a lot of commercial enterprise-grade stuff, he does a great job. 01:42:41.240 --> 01:42:45.080 Well, he was on Geerling's channel, and Geerling sometimes covers some cheaper stuff. 01:42:45.080 --> 01:42:52.200 Ooh, yeah. Geerling sometimes covers some very expensive stuff. He does, and I think this is 600 bucks, and it's probably 600 bucks American. 01:42:52.200 --> 01:42:55.240 Like the old real dollars. A lot of dollars. 01:42:55.240 --> 01:42:58.840 Yeah, I think it was this video, whoop, from Jan2. 01:42:58.840 --> 01:43:02.040 Are you planning to skip that out at some point? Thank you. 01:43:02.040 --> 01:43:05.040 I don't usually watch YouTube with ads. You're killing me. Where is it? 01:43:05.040 --> 01:43:09.080 It's not that one. It's what's in his hand right there. I love Patrick's shirt. 01:43:09.080 --> 01:43:14.080 Nice. I love that they're both just like solid color, white text. 01:43:14.080 --> 01:43:19.640 Nice. But yeah, it's a pretty cool looking little thing. 01:43:19.640 --> 01:43:20.640 This one. 01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:26.760 But, and I think this is made in the US. I think I've heard of this thing. 01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:32.200 Monorotor, specifically DevKit model. Yeah, I think, yeah, and I'm pretty sure it's made in the US, but it's, again, it's 01:43:32.200 --> 01:43:36.000 600 US dollars, final price of the kit, right here. 01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:40.600 Woof. I think I've heard of this, sir. What's it called, mono? 01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:44.040 Not made in the US. Oh, it's made in the EU. Okay. 01:43:44.200 --> 01:43:50.320 Well, then it doesn't solve the problem, but it's a cool video and it's a cool little 01:43:50.320 --> 01:43:54.320 device. Maybe check that out. What do you want, Sammy? 01:43:54.320 --> 01:43:57.820 Bye. Bye. Bye, Sammy. 01:43:57.820 --> 01:44:02.160 Check Republic. Oh, these guys reached out to me, out to me at some point. 01:44:02.160 --> 01:44:06.400 Oh, well. Did I not reply to them? I think I meant to. 01:44:06.400 --> 01:44:12.040 Well, oops. Wow, good for them. 01:44:12.040 --> 01:44:16.120 That's so cool. Watching the video they sent me that was about like the development of this thing. 01:44:16.120 --> 01:44:21.040 If it's the one that I'm thinking of, we raised $500,000 to manufacture our high end 01:44:21.040 --> 01:44:24.040 router. Yeah, yeah, this thing. That's it, for sure. 01:44:24.040 --> 01:44:29.680 Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, that's super cool. I totally, I did not mean to ghost these guys. 01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:34.040 I must have just accidentally marked the email as well. I wasn't trying to set you up for that, I had no idea. 01:44:34.040 --> 01:44:38.160 No, no, no, no. Yeah, that's, I mean, I think everyone misses an email from time to time. 01:44:38.160 --> 01:44:42.120 Yeah, sure. Um, but yeah, wow, yeah, good for them. 01:44:42.120 --> 01:44:46.080 That's fantastic. They are, they're across the line now. Right? 01:44:46.080 --> 01:44:52.080 Well, it is, I mean, it is fantastic, but also I'm pretty sure if you go to his, um, 01:44:52.080 --> 01:44:55.280 like his actual YouTube channel, okay, Tom Oz, right? 01:44:55.280 --> 01:44:58.280 And then what's this? Yeah, something like that. Oh my God, I closed it. 01:44:58.280 --> 01:45:01.280 I'm sorry. Hold on one second. Oh, good. 01:45:01.280 --> 01:45:04.280 Uh, the Xammon. 01:45:04.280 --> 01:45:11.480 He has a recent video, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:45:11.480 --> 01:45:14.480 We built a thousand routers and made $0. 01:45:14.480 --> 01:45:25.480 Yeah. Relatable. I don't know, um, uh, yeah, right. 01:45:25.480 --> 01:45:31.880 Um, I, oh dude, and then there was the recent thing where, uh, Der Bauer got completely 01:45:31.880 --> 01:45:40.200 f***ed over on some not proper, yeah, um, it's so funny because every time we make one 01:45:40.200 --> 01:45:44.520 of those videos that's like, it took us three years to make a screwdriver. 01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:49.400 Ask me why. You know, if we took three years to make a four years or ever along, it took to make 01:45:49.400 --> 01:45:56.920 the cables. But why is that out people, there, there will inevitably be like, uh, uh, a contingent of 01:45:56.920 --> 01:46:00.960 people in the comments that are like, yeah, it's because you guys are so f***ing incompetent 01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:07.440 and blah, blah, dude, creating anything is so hard. 01:46:07.440 --> 01:46:15.880 And I think that it has fundamentally altered my perspective to move from, from selling, 01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:27.040 like being a merchant, to reviewing and evaluating, to actually making, to, to, to, to being responsible 01:46:27.040 --> 01:46:32.920 for everything from the initial funding to the final delivery, the final quality of the 01:46:32.920 --> 01:46:43.040 delivered product. It's so much harder and it makes it, it's, it's given me, I think at, at times a perspective 01:46:43.040 --> 01:46:50.720 that people have found abrasive, um, where I'm, and it can come across, I think a little 01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:56.880 bit boot liqory where I'm like, yeah, but I, I get it. 01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:02.700 I see their side, I see their perspective because I mean, here, let's bring up something 01:47:02.700 --> 01:47:10.560 really uncomfortable, mod mat, where you're publicly talking about is the mod mat. 01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:13.640 Where is the mod mat? Where is it? Where is it? 01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:16.640 Linus? Where is it? I don't, I know nothing about it. 01:47:16.640 --> 01:47:27.520 I know it doesn't exist. What it, where it is, is it is figuratively in a space that illustrates the challenges 01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:31.080 of creating physical products. 01:47:31.080 --> 01:47:34.740 That's where it is right now. Right now. How do we get it out of there? 01:47:34.740 --> 01:47:37.900 It's releasing on April 1st. Uh, no, no, it isn't. 01:47:37.900 --> 01:47:40.900 It totally is. 01:47:40.900 --> 01:47:47.780 Sure. No, it's not. April 1st joke is that it's a joke, but it's still not out. 01:47:47.780 --> 01:47:50.780 Yeah. Yeah. So. 01:47:50.780 --> 01:48:00.260 I also didn't say which year. Jesus. Um, but yeah, cool little device. 01:48:01.260 --> 01:48:05.680 Apparently not made in the States, so totally irrelevant to the conversation, but maybe 01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:11.560 go check it out. I wish I'm not. It's funny how, um, a lot of people will assume that anything made in the West is made in 01:48:11.560 --> 01:48:17.960 the States. Like I saw, we, we had a video earlier this week about, oh my gosh, it's not in the dock. 01:48:17.960 --> 01:48:21.080 ARM makes CPUs now. Yeah. 01:48:21.080 --> 01:48:29.280 Yeah. We had a whole video about that earlier this week. You should go watch it because ARM instead of just licensing IP or providing sort of 01:48:29.300 --> 01:48:35.540 prefabbed, um, you know, ready for you to integrate into your own silicon sort of IP 01:48:35.540 --> 01:48:38.700 guidance and kits, uh, core designs, what do they call them? 01:48:38.700 --> 01:48:45.580 CCS or something. I forget they call it, but basically these like kind of, uh, blocks of various IPs that 01:48:45.580 --> 01:48:49.500 include their processing cores that you can, you know, cobble together your own processor 01:48:49.500 --> 01:48:54.780 out of. Instead of just doing that, they actually are going to be directly selling ARM branded 01:48:54.780 --> 01:49:01.780 silicon in the, in the data center now, uh, specifically for AI, um, to their credit, 01:49:03.760 --> 01:49:10.440 what thereafter is making AI way more efficient, which is like, if we're going to have AI, 01:49:10.440 --> 01:49:14.080 it being more efficient seems like not terrible. 01:49:14.080 --> 01:49:18.840 Um, but anyway, where was I, where's it going with the, right, uh, I saw a bunch of comments 01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:23.920 that were like, Oh yeah. Now we have like, you know, America made, you know, an American CPU brand. 01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:28.020 We have America made CPUs and something, something, something's like, bro, like acorn 01:49:28.020 --> 01:49:31.660 started in Europe. Like what are you talking about? 01:49:31.660 --> 01:49:36.900 It's not American company. Uh, like, what about Intel and Qualcomm? 01:49:36.900 --> 01:49:44.380 Well, okay. So hold on a second. This was something that I, I looked up like three times to make sure that I had it right. 01:49:44.380 --> 01:49:47.940 IIR FTW says, uh, oh wait, no, no, you're right. 01:49:47.940 --> 01:49:55.640 Yeah. ARM hasn't made their own chip since the BBC micro. So ARM got up on stage and said, this is the first time we're making an ARM chip. 01:49:55.640 --> 01:49:58.680 And I kind of went, well, that doesn't sound right because I thought that was literally 01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:06.320 like what you guys did the first, you know, time. And there's that famous story of how the ARM chip was so efficient that they powered it 01:50:06.320 --> 01:50:11.640 off and just like, there was enough power in the signal lines or something that it would 01:50:11.640 --> 01:50:17.400 like stayed powered on for a long time or something. And they came in the lab the next day and it was like still outputting or something. 01:50:17.400 --> 01:50:20.400 Whoa. Yeah. It's crazy, crazy efficient chip. 01:50:20.400 --> 01:50:27.860 It was made by Acorn. That was before they became ARM, which happened, I think like two or three years later or something 01:50:27.860 --> 01:50:33.900 like that. I like the Acorn name. This is the first actual ARM CPU. 01:50:33.900 --> 01:50:39.180 Sweet. More people should maybe go watch that video. 01:50:39.180 --> 01:50:42.180 Yeah. Yeah. It did okay. 01:50:42.180 --> 01:50:46.620 It did okay. I mean, and it's the video form of like a press release. Like I can't benchmark it. 01:50:46.620 --> 01:50:53.360 But true. This has major, major implications for the tech industry. 01:50:53.360 --> 01:51:01.840 It was very interesting to me being at the event and seeing ARM stock drop during the 01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:05.520 keynote. And I was like, really, what? 01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:08.640 I don't understand this. Why is it dropping? 01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:14.200 This actually seems huge. And then it popped. 01:51:14.200 --> 01:51:18.840 And then now we're back in what, what, what, what do you, what do you even, what do you 01:51:19.540 --> 01:51:26.340 even, our stock values anymore? I don't understand it. Everything's just based on whatever's more entertaining, I think. 01:51:26.340 --> 01:51:30.700 Ebalorid says this happens to Apple stock every keynote too, really? 01:51:30.700 --> 01:51:34.820 So is this just like, like, is this like a high frequency machine trading thing that's 01:51:34.820 --> 01:51:40.740 just like the play, you know, you, stocks are based on vibes. 01:51:40.740 --> 01:51:43.940 Yeah, I get it. And not advice. Like not advice guys. 01:51:43.940 --> 01:51:47.540 I, this is not financial advice. 01:51:47.540 --> 01:51:59.160 But I, I think it's a pretty exciting opportunity. I don't love the way that they were so focused on its application for AI in the product announcement 01:51:59.160 --> 01:52:06.240 because you're, when you tie your cart to that horse, you kind of live and die by it. 01:52:06.240 --> 01:52:14.080 And when you look at the implementations of arms cores that are, that have already made 01:52:14.100 --> 01:52:19.100 their way, like you can, you can rent an ARM instance from Amazon right now, like you can 01:52:19.100 --> 01:52:24.780 go right now and you can get a graviton instance and you can like use ARM data center processors 01:52:24.780 --> 01:52:29.220 right the second. And they, they don't have to be for AI. 01:52:29.220 --> 01:52:35.780 They can be for other things. And so I would have liked to see them talk a little bit more about what else these CPUs 01:52:35.780 --> 01:52:39.820 can do because I'm sure they can do other stuff. 01:52:39.820 --> 01:52:45.120 But I also understand why in the current climate with so much build out happening around AI, 01:52:45.120 --> 01:52:50.680 why, why they focused on is just, I wish they had, I wish they'd talked about, oh, and also 01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:55.280 all this other stuff, this legacy stuff that will also still exist, you know, at some point 01:52:55.280 --> 01:52:58.440 in the future, we can do that too. 01:52:58.440 --> 01:53:03.480 Oh, disclosure, that video was sponsored by ARM. 01:53:03.480 --> 01:53:09.720 Our trip down was sponsored by ARM. So take that for, for what it is, but I'm, they're not sponsored here and they're not 01:53:09.740 --> 01:53:12.700 going to be watching this. So I'm, yeah, I'm saying whatever. 01:53:13.460 --> 01:53:16.300 Nice. Nice. 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Meta and Google found liable in landmark social media addiction trial. 01:56:26.480 --> 01:56:30.160 Two landmark rulings against social media companies happened this week. 01:56:30.520 --> 01:56:37.120 Tuesday, a New Mexico jury ordered Meta to pay $375 million for misleading parents 01:56:37.120 --> 01:56:45.720 about the safety of Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp. Then on Wednesday, an LA jury found Meta and YouTube negligent for harming kids 01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:53.020 through addictive platform design. Awarding the plaintiff in the case, 3 million in damages, uh, 70% of that from 01:56:53.020 --> 01:56:56.540 Meta, 30% of that from YouTube. The New Mexico case. 01:56:56.540 --> 01:57:02.340 So the first one grew out of a 2023 undercover sting conducted by the 01:57:02.340 --> 01:57:05.060 guardian, uh, like the newspaper. Yeah. 01:57:05.380 --> 01:57:09.700 Uh, okay. Cool. To investigate investigative journalism, let's go to investigate the risks that 01:57:09.980 --> 01:57:14.700 children are exposed to on Instagram and Facebook, internal documents and 01:57:14.700 --> 01:57:19.320 testimony from former employees show Meta repeatedly ignored warnings about 01:57:19.320 --> 01:57:22.360 child safety, surprise, surprise. 01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:26.880 No one would have ever guessed the New Mexico, nope. 01:57:26.880 --> 01:57:31.320 Sorry. Law enforcement also testified that Meta's crime reporting was deficient 01:57:31.440 --> 01:57:36.520 because Meta relied too heavily on AI moderation, generating high volumes of junk 01:57:36.520 --> 01:57:39.480 reports that made investigations practically impossible. 01:57:39.680 --> 01:57:45.820 Surprise, surprise. Again, during that trial, Zuckerberg and Instagram lead, uh, or sorry, 01:57:45.820 --> 01:57:52.740 Instagram head Adam Mosseri testified that, that harms to children were inevitable 01:57:52.940 --> 01:57:56.140 on their platform due to their massive user bases. 01:57:56.620 --> 01:57:59.980 Huh. Okay. Um, cool. 01:58:00.140 --> 01:58:06.540 The $375 million penalty, $5,000 per violation with 75,000 violations is 01:58:06.540 --> 01:58:11.280 substantial, but is less than one-fifth of what the prosecutors initially sought. 01:58:12.280 --> 01:58:17.280 Though further restitution might be ordered as the case moves to a bench trial in 01:58:17.280 --> 01:58:22.560 May, where a judge will rule on public nuisance claims that could see Meta being 01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:25.960 forced to change how its platforms work. Wow. Awesome. 01:58:26.040 --> 01:58:31.960 Interesting. Uh, the LA case was a seven week trial brought by a 20 year old woman. 01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:38.500 Okay. Uh, sure. I think at the point is just that she's young and pretty much is at an age now 01:58:38.700 --> 01:58:41.740 where she grew up being impacted by these platforms. Got it. 01:58:41.740 --> 01:58:45.020 Okay. I think that's the only reason we're mentioning the age. Sure. 01:58:45.180 --> 01:58:49.500 Um, her argument was that Meta and YouTube deliberately designed their 01:58:49.500 --> 01:58:57.780 platforms with features like infinite scroll. That's kind of the primary one, uh, auto play, which kind of ties into infinite scroll. 01:58:57.780 --> 01:59:04.920 I don't really know that many things that infinitely scroll, but you have to press the play button, uh, and push notifications that exploit dopamine responses to 01:59:04.920 --> 01:59:10.680 keep kids hooked. The plaintiff's lawyers focused on the app's design rather than their content, 01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:14.120 which I actually personally completely agree with, which is what allowed them to 01:59:14.120 --> 01:59:20.960 get around section 230. Um, I think any app that infinitely scrolls, you should be looking at critically. 01:59:21.280 --> 01:59:25.360 Um, anyways, Meta's defense tied to argue her struggles. 01:59:26.100 --> 01:59:30.700 Meta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors, 01:59:30.940 --> 01:59:33.500 a difficult family life, bullying at school. 01:59:33.940 --> 01:59:39.100 Um, they pointed out, yeah, uh, they pointed out this is Floatplane. 01:59:39.580 --> 01:59:43.580 Yeah. I think you should scrutinize why it does that and how it affects your 01:59:43.580 --> 01:59:47.820 usage of the platform. And I think the end result is not algorithmic. 01:59:47.860 --> 01:59:51.260 So I think the end result of scrutinizing that on full plane is, uh, it 01:59:51.260 --> 01:59:54.380 doesn't really actually do anything, uh, which is fine. 01:59:54.640 --> 01:59:58.040 And then I think you can look at a platform like, like Instagram and be like, 01:59:58.080 --> 02:00:03.280 Oh wow, this is very clearly designed to keep me going. I'm just, I'm just saying, no, I think you should scrutinize it though. 02:00:03.280 --> 02:00:05.800 And I have had this thought before of like, Oh, Floatplane does that. 02:00:06.320 --> 02:00:09.240 But I, in my case, I think it's fine, not infinite. 02:00:09.400 --> 02:00:14.400 That's kind of true. You do technically come to an end, but I think it's, I think it's. 02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:19.960 Long enough that it, it could be put in the category still. 02:00:20.000 --> 02:00:23.240 Yeah. And I managed to scroll through so many videos that it's like bogged down 02:00:23.260 --> 02:00:25.940 enough that it's not a great infinite scrolling experience. 02:00:27.140 --> 02:00:33.180 You're out of the preload. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's, it's like the platform is really not designed for that 02:00:33.180 --> 02:00:37.220 type of infinite scrolling, like Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, et cetera, 02:00:37.220 --> 02:00:41.540 Facebook, et cetera, are all designed to really like that is what they're for. 02:00:41.540 --> 02:00:44.380 And they're designed to keep you there and they're going to autoplay everything and all that kind of stuff. 02:00:44.580 --> 02:00:49.380 Full plane is really not like that, even though it can load, I will defend 02:00:49.380 --> 02:00:53.040 this forever. Anyways, okay. Uh, yeah. 02:00:53.040 --> 02:00:58.320 Met his defense, met his defense, tried to argue that her struggles were caused 02:00:58.320 --> 02:01:05.040 by other factors, a difficult family life, bullying at school. They also pointed out that notes from six months of therapy, didn't mention 02:01:05.040 --> 02:01:09.200 social media addiction or name any apps. Imagine going after someone that way. 02:01:09.320 --> 02:01:13.320 Imagine someone saying, Hey, your product damaged me. 02:01:13.560 --> 02:01:19.600 And you being like, yo, y'all broken cause your family sucks. 02:01:19.700 --> 02:01:24.140 And you were bullied at our platform was just, we just took advantage of that. 02:01:24.180 --> 02:01:28.940 Couldn't help noticing that you had six months of therapy and the notes. 02:01:29.540 --> 02:01:34.100 Dude, I don't know. Like, what did, did she, I mean, that's part of discovery. 02:01:34.100 --> 02:01:38.100 I guess they could ask for something like that. Maybe you get notes from your therapy. 02:01:38.100 --> 02:01:40.860 I don't know if that sounds crazy, but that sounds nuts to me. 02:01:42.260 --> 02:01:49.100 I mean, I, I've never, I've never, look, there's a, I am not a litigious person. 02:01:49.480 --> 02:01:52.880 You know, if I'm ever, I want to make it clear that if I'm ever pushed 02:01:52.880 --> 02:01:58.200 to pass the limit, like, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll do it, but I really don't want to. 02:01:58.480 --> 02:02:02.840 And I've managed to be in this industry for this long without ending up in a court room. 02:02:03.560 --> 02:02:09.360 I'd like to keep it that way. Um, what, what, what, what, what, what, what was I going to say here? 02:02:09.360 --> 02:02:15.800 It was, uh, yeah. So I don't, so I don't know like how this process works, but from everything 02:02:15.800 --> 02:02:20.220 I've heard, it sucks. Yes, you can absolutely get therapy notes. 02:02:20.220 --> 02:02:22.140 Wow. That's super sketch. 02:02:23.820 --> 02:02:26.060 So what you're telling me is don't go to therapy. 02:02:28.620 --> 02:02:32.220 That's not what we're saying. Not advice. Yeah. I'm going to sit over here for a second. 02:02:32.780 --> 02:02:38.420 I tried. I friggin hated it. Uh, but anyways, uh, that's a story for another time. 02:02:38.420 --> 02:02:45.700 Maybe not when, yeah, yeah. Uh, jurors nearly unanimously sided with the plaintiff, awarding her $3 million 02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:50.160 damages with the jury still deliberating on punitive damages, which 02:02:50.160 --> 02:02:57.800 could significantly increase the payout. Yeah. $3 million sounded like just a slap on the wrist, but if you, um, sort of 02:02:57.800 --> 02:03:03.400 look at the bigger picture here, there are over 3000 similar lawsuits 02:03:03.400 --> 02:03:07.360 pending in California, plus more than 40 state attorneys general who have 02:03:07.360 --> 02:03:13.720 filed against meta and that $3 million is to one person. 02:03:15.920 --> 02:03:19.000 The floodgates could be open here. 02:03:19.120 --> 02:03:26.680 It could be kind of fun. Um, discussion questions. Section 230 has been the bedrock legal defense for social media companies for 02:03:26.680 --> 02:03:29.520 30 years. These two juries just rejected it. 02:03:29.760 --> 02:03:33.840 If that precedent holds up on appeal, what does the social media landscape 02:03:33.840 --> 02:03:37.560 look like when platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content kids? 02:03:37.680 --> 02:03:41.640 I think it could look a lot more like it used to look where you friend people 02:03:41.840 --> 02:03:45.240 and then you see whatever your friend actually posted. Awesome. 02:03:45.500 --> 02:03:48.700 The internet being cool again would be so sick. Yeah, I'd be down. 02:03:48.700 --> 02:03:52.940 It would be so cool. I would, I'm a little older now. 02:03:53.700 --> 02:03:56.580 I would use Facebook. Me too. Like the old one. 02:03:56.780 --> 02:04:02.580 Yeah, me too. I would legitimately use it. I would, I would be an active user and like you could, you can go on my Facebook. 02:04:02.580 --> 02:04:07.620 You can see that even when Facebook was not cool, what kind of cool. 02:04:08.060 --> 02:04:10.660 What are we missing then? Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to find me. 02:04:11.300 --> 02:04:14.660 They want ID laws for app stores. Oh, I think these things are different. 02:04:14.840 --> 02:04:19.080 Yeah, this is, that's, that's not what we're talking about. I agree with you that that sucks, but I think these things are different. 02:04:19.520 --> 02:04:24.240 Where am I? I don't know. I don't know how to, I don't know how to find myself on Facebook. 02:04:24.640 --> 02:04:26.560 Literally don't know how to use Facebook. 02:04:28.400 --> 02:04:32.160 This is cute though. I don't know. This is, this is from the LTT channel. 02:04:32.440 --> 02:04:34.440 Nice. Don't talk to me or my son ever again. 02:04:36.400 --> 02:04:42.720 The job social media. Anyway, the point is I, I like posted not at all, but I'm, if I was actually 02:04:42.720 --> 02:04:47.460 posting to people who I actually am connected with and care about, then I'd 02:04:47.460 --> 02:04:51.340 probably, I'd probably use it just cause I don't socially interact with those 02:04:51.340 --> 02:04:54.900 people in person all the time anymore. And it's, it's easy. 02:04:54.900 --> 02:05:02.460 It's convenient. It's just, it's so, it's so unusable now that there's no temptation whatsoever 02:05:02.460 --> 02:05:09.780 beyond messenger. Short form dopamine abusing garbage trash content is like everywhere now. 02:05:09.900 --> 02:05:14.920 And it's also on Facebook. It was just like, oh, it's especially on Facebook. 02:05:14.920 --> 02:05:18.800 I had to go on there to message a family member very recently, jumped on 02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:26.040 Facebook, on desktop, and just like looked around for a sec and was just like, 02:05:26.320 --> 02:05:30.900 Oh, it's so bad. And if you frequent communities like, am I the asshole? 02:05:31.240 --> 02:05:37.080 Um, you'll see, you'll start to see the like repurposing and recirculation of 02:05:37.380 --> 02:05:40.920 like AI generated stories with like slightly different twists. 02:05:40.920 --> 02:05:45.200 And so there'll be a version of it that you notice on Facebook, uh, where, you 02:05:45.200 --> 02:05:48.300 know, he cheated and then this happened and then this happened and then this happened. 02:05:48.300 --> 02:05:55.120 And then there was a thing with my dog and like, you've got these, these stories that are just designed for you to like keep staying engaged to find 02:05:55.120 --> 02:06:00.600 out what happens next. And it's, it's all fake. 02:06:01.400 --> 02:06:04.440 Yeah. Except when it isn't, but it seems to be all fake. 02:06:04.680 --> 02:06:13.320 Yeah. So gross. Um, I don't know the, the, the comments about the, uh, age verification 02:06:13.320 --> 02:06:19.960 for app stores thing. I don't, I understand where you're coming from about these things being related 02:06:20.920 --> 02:06:24.160 because this whole thing is algorithms for kids. 02:06:24.600 --> 02:06:27.960 No, but the, okay, this is, but I think there are two things happening at 02:06:27.960 --> 02:06:30.960 the same time that have similar topics. 02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:37.040 And I also think that if we are, if we're talking about this product being 02:06:37.080 --> 02:06:43.360 designed to be harmful for kids in a way where it's, uh, keeping you engaged 02:06:43.360 --> 02:06:49.920 through intentional like dopamine spikes, it's not a far reach to go, okay, but 02:06:49.920 --> 02:06:52.920 then is it also designed to be harmful to adults? Yeah. 02:06:53.240 --> 02:06:59.480 And I think it's harmful to everyone. And, and so we could end up with a very good outcome here, you know, in much 02:06:59.480 --> 02:07:04.360 the same way that, you know, marketing is restricted in many territories around 02:07:04.360 --> 02:07:08.920 products like cigarettes, drugs, alcohol, uh, it used to be for gambling. 02:07:08.960 --> 02:07:13.240 I don't know what happened there. We sort of had a good thing and then we decided, ah, you know what, forget it. 02:07:13.240 --> 02:07:22.720 Let's just let it go rampant. Sorry. Once a, uh, serious scaper is, I think their, their name says this is walking 02:07:22.720 --> 02:07:25.800 the internet as we know it, meaning LTT forum, flowplaning such will be liable. 02:07:25.840 --> 02:07:29.200 Actually, neither of those that you need to be liable at all based on the 02:07:29.200 --> 02:07:33.240 reading that I've have here. Because we don't algorithmically serve content. 02:07:33.280 --> 02:07:38.800 Yeah. We don't do it at all. So I, I haven't personally read section 230, but the notes that we have in the 02:07:38.800 --> 02:07:44.160 doc here, um, say specifically that platforms can be sued for how their 02:07:44.160 --> 02:07:51.000 algorithms serve content to kids. It's not the content itself that they're liable for because yeah, section 230, 02:07:51.280 --> 02:07:56.920 they didn't create the content. They can't be responsible for every user generated piece of content that's 02:07:56.920 --> 02:08:03.320 uploaded to their sites, but what they can be responsible for is curating it. 02:08:03.640 --> 02:08:10.920 Algorithmically to generate a stimulus, a stimulus response, uh, chemical 02:08:10.920 --> 02:08:16.920 reaction in your brain that keeps you hooked on it. That's the conversation, not the content itself. 02:08:17.240 --> 02:08:23.440 So there's not a single platform that we operate that would fall under that. 02:08:23.440 --> 02:08:27.360 And serious scaper is making a bit of a slippery slope argument here about 02:08:27.360 --> 02:08:30.400 this opening the door is the sort of the next thing that they're saying here. 02:08:30.720 --> 02:08:38.840 And you know what, maybe I, I personally do not immediately dismiss a slippery 02:08:38.840 --> 02:08:44.160 slope fallacy argument because there's plenty of historical precedent for the 02:08:44.160 --> 02:08:50.080 slippery slope, absolutely being a thing where I take issue with your argument 02:08:50.080 --> 02:08:54.640 though, is that I don't think that this slope that we're on in this particular 02:08:54.680 --> 02:09:00.560 ruling leads to repealing section 230 or significantly revising it. 02:09:00.920 --> 02:09:07.000 I don't think that anyone in their right mind is going to make a platform 02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:12.560 responsible for every single individual thing that a user posts because it's 02:09:12.560 --> 02:09:16.320 not realistic. It's just plain not realistic. 02:09:16.320 --> 02:09:20.240 Yeah. Algorithmic suggestion is, is quite different from UGC. 02:09:23.600 --> 02:09:30.760 It's interesting. I think something needs to change. I totally understand the whole slippery slope thing and that being a concern. 02:09:30.800 --> 02:09:36.360 I think where we're at now is like extremely toxic and extremely negative 02:09:36.360 --> 02:09:40.720 for all of humanity that is connected to the internet and has to be addressed 02:09:40.720 --> 02:09:45.200 somehow. I don't know that this is the best way. I don't know that this leads us down the best path. 02:09:45.240 --> 02:09:51.080 Okay. Something's got to change. I do think serious scaper might be a little bit kind of barking down 02:09:51.080 --> 02:09:55.240 the wrong path a little bit. It's saying literally the ones who want laws to pass that would require 02:09:55.240 --> 02:09:57.960 ID laws, a case surveillance is these giant tech companies. 02:09:58.520 --> 02:10:03.280 And this is the next step. No, no, no, no, no, they want ID laws and all of that. 02:10:03.280 --> 02:10:06.560 They want more personal information. They oppose this. 02:10:06.560 --> 02:10:11.240 They lost this case. This, this lawsuit, they lost it. 02:10:11.560 --> 02:10:15.920 This is not the direction they want to go. This is the opposite of what they want right now. 02:10:16.640 --> 02:10:26.320 So this is, we're not saying yes, this is good because it benefits Facebook 02:10:26.320 --> 02:10:29.760 and Meta and Google. That's not what happened here. 02:10:29.760 --> 02:10:38.240 What happened is Meta and Google lost in a way that has the potential to make 02:10:38.240 --> 02:10:43.760 the kind of algorithmic serving of content that has become so addictive. 02:10:45.920 --> 02:10:51.880 That it is doing measurable damage to a generation of people illegal, 02:10:52.000 --> 02:10:57.760 hopefully, or at least financially impractical. We should stop this topic, but I'll throw in one last thing. 02:10:57.760 --> 02:11:02.400 It says literally the parents of the kids in this case came out and said past COSA, which is a surveillance law. 02:11:02.480 --> 02:11:06.600 Yeah, but that's not what the case was about. Right. They can say whatever they want. 02:11:06.640 --> 02:11:09.920 They could come out and say chicken wings are better than burgers. 02:11:10.880 --> 02:11:14.480 Or I prefer hot dogs and waffles suck and I'm a pancakes boy. 02:11:15.320 --> 02:11:19.520 And it wouldn't mean anything. But anyways, let's talk more good news. 02:11:19.560 --> 02:11:22.080 I understand your point. And I think it is a valid concern. 02:11:23.560 --> 02:11:27.160 Bigger battle mage is here. 02:11:28.160 --> 02:11:34.600 The Arc Pro B 65 and B 70 were announced earlier this week. 02:11:34.600 --> 02:11:37.360 And we've got a couple of spec sheets here. 02:11:37.640 --> 02:11:43.200 One for the B 65 and one for the B 70. 02:11:43.200 --> 02:11:45.320 Let's go ahead and let's go ahead and pull these up. 02:11:46.320 --> 02:11:49.680 And this is so funny. I'm on Intel Arc reading about Intel Arc. 02:11:49.680 --> 02:11:53.480 Yo, dawg, I heard you like arcs. So I put arc on your arc so you can arc will you arc. 02:11:54.040 --> 02:11:59.600 I don't think they call this arc anymore. But the joke is that Intel's product specifications. 02:12:00.680 --> 02:12:04.280 Website where you could just kind of look at a data sheet like this. 02:12:04.280 --> 02:12:06.960 For any product or used to be called Intel Arc. Yeah. 02:12:07.360 --> 02:12:12.720 All right. So what do we got? What do we got? Micro architecture, XC2, TSMC and five. 02:12:13.080 --> 02:12:16.760 Oh man, you see what TSMC said about unless you're like a loyal long term 02:12:16.760 --> 02:12:21.960 customer, you ain't getting no in three. So yeah, Intel probably wouldn't fall under that. 02:12:21.960 --> 02:12:27.040 So they're going to have to fab their own GPUs going forward. It sounds like I'd probably reading too much into it, but whatever. 02:12:27.760 --> 02:12:33.320 So the 65 gets 20 XC cores and the 70 gets 32. 02:12:33.320 --> 02:12:39.360 So this is what was probably supposed to be the rumored B 70. 02:12:39.800 --> 02:12:44.800 But the bad part of the news is we're not getting that in a consumer card. 02:12:45.360 --> 02:12:51.120 The good part of the news here is that, Hey, at least it's coming to light. 02:12:51.680 --> 02:12:56.800 So it does exist, which means maybe if the rampocalypse, you know, ends reasonably 02:12:56.800 --> 02:12:59.760 soon, we could get it someday or something. 02:13:00.000 --> 02:13:03.440 And it also means Intel has not abandoned GPUs. 02:13:03.960 --> 02:13:08.600 Everything Intel does that shows that they're still making GPUs is encouraging 02:13:08.600 --> 02:13:12.680 for me because we must, we must not have a monopoly in this space. 02:13:13.000 --> 02:13:16.440 So either 20 or 32 ray tracing units. 02:13:16.840 --> 02:13:20.440 All right. That's pretty cool. Vector engines 162, oh wow. 02:13:20.440 --> 02:13:24.760 So the B 70 is like a much, much beefier card. 02:13:24.800 --> 02:13:27.800 Oh yeah, it's a it's a thousand dollars higher clocked. She's in US. 02:13:27.800 --> 02:13:33.760 She's a she's a big boy. Yeah. PCIe Gen five by 16 for both of them and both of them. 02:13:34.320 --> 02:13:44.240 This is pretty cool. Have 256 bit interfaces and 32 gigs of GDDR six memory is pretty nice. 02:13:44.360 --> 02:13:49.160 That is a fat amount of GDDR memory. 02:13:49.240 --> 02:13:55.200 I think for under a thousand dollar GPU. A lot of these are going to end up in potentially dual GPU setups. 02:13:55.680 --> 02:13:59.280 It's, it's very clear what Intel is trying to do here. 02:13:59.640 --> 02:14:06.320 Yeah, they are trying to get homelab people running arc, optimizing their AI 02:14:06.320 --> 02:14:13.200 crap for arc so that longer term, their data center accelerators are going to 02:14:13.200 --> 02:14:18.280 have people familiar with how to use them seems pretty smart. 02:14:20.040 --> 02:14:24.560 I am not super on top of this stuff. Someone in chat said, is it GDR six? 02:14:24.560 --> 02:14:29.000 And I went to go confirm that it is, but I also think that should be. 02:14:29.760 --> 02:14:33.560 It's real. You really just care about the capacity a lot. 02:14:33.960 --> 02:14:37.400 So I'm pretty sure. Okay. Okay. It's two-fold. 02:14:37.480 --> 02:14:40.520 So for the workloads that I suspect people are going to be using this for. 02:14:40.560 --> 02:14:44.000 I want to add that caveat before you keep going. It's okay. 02:14:44.040 --> 02:14:50.760 So we, we covered this in a fair bit more detail in that video that, that we 02:14:50.760 --> 02:14:54.160 worked on with, with Nick Harris from the lab. Yeah. So what was that? 02:14:54.160 --> 02:14:57.000 That was a H one H one hundred card. I think it was. 02:14:57.400 --> 02:15:04.320 It was an H one hundred. It was, it was an, like, it was an older data center AI accelerator from NVIDIA. 02:15:04.440 --> 02:15:11.600 Yeah. And what we, what we talked about was, okay, like capacity and speed and sort 02:15:11.600 --> 02:15:18.480 of the relationship there. So for certain AI workloads, the speed actually matters quite a lot. 02:15:18.880 --> 02:15:24.200 Okay. And that's why you have these HBM stacks that are sitting right next to the dye. 02:15:24.240 --> 02:15:27.960 Yeah. Um, and from my, from what I can remember, and this is one of those things 02:15:27.960 --> 02:15:32.640 where I will often go and relearn something so that I can do a video about it. 02:15:33.080 --> 02:15:38.160 And then if I don't touch it for six months, then I'll kind of forget a lot of the details and then I'll have to like go touch up on it again. 02:15:38.160 --> 02:15:41.840 But from what I can remember, uh, a lot of it is down to training. 02:15:42.240 --> 02:15:48.480 You want the speed for training. And then when it comes to, uh, when it comes to inference, when it 02:15:48.480 --> 02:15:53.120 comes to actually using the models, the speed of the memory is not quite as 02:15:53.120 --> 02:15:57.320 important, but the capacity of the memory matters because you have to be able 02:15:57.320 --> 02:16:03.080 to fit the model into your working memory or else your speed drops off dramatically. 02:16:03.640 --> 02:16:08.520 So having faster memory might make you a little bit faster for inference, a little 02:16:08.520 --> 02:16:15.320 bit, but not having enough takes you from here to here because all of a sudden 02:16:15.320 --> 02:16:18.840 you're swapping out to storage and that's Boruto. 02:16:19.720 --> 02:16:22.800 So yeah, GDDR six, not going to be the end of the world. 02:16:23.040 --> 02:16:25.960 And the fact that it's on a 256 bit bus is going to help. 02:16:26.080 --> 02:16:29.840 So total bandwidth that Intel quotes is something in the neighborhood of, I think 02:16:29.840 --> 02:16:36.160 it was 660 gigabytes a second, 608 gigabytes a second, which is not industry 02:16:36.160 --> 02:16:39.760 leading by any stretch of the imagination, but with this much memory for what 02:16:39.760 --> 02:16:44.040 people are trying to do at home, right? Where they're not trying to do this at an industrial scale. 02:16:44.640 --> 02:16:50.000 It's going to be faster or enough for just having that capacity. 02:16:51.000 --> 02:16:56.480 Um, that this could be very appealing for home labbers. 02:16:56.600 --> 02:16:59.600 Yeah, yeah. I want to take us on a weird aside for a second. 02:16:59.600 --> 02:17:02.960 I think it was in the pre-show. We were talking about the expense of live streaming. 02:17:02.960 --> 02:17:06.240 Was that in the pre-show? Uh, no, that wasn't the main show. 02:17:06.240 --> 02:17:12.760 I think was it either way. I know I realized I wanted to do an updated count because I saw that, you 02:17:12.760 --> 02:17:16.120 know, on on YouTube weird. Oh, this is an older. 02:17:17.480 --> 02:17:21.240 Oh boy, where'd it go? There on YouTube, we have 8.9 thousand now. 02:17:21.240 --> 02:17:26.440 So we've kind of like cooked a little bit. Wancho takes a little bit to get its viewer viewership up, but I noticed 02:17:26.440 --> 02:17:30.520 something that was wrong the first time I came to the calculator, um, which 02:17:30.520 --> 02:17:38.440 was I, I totaled our viewership between YouTube and Twitch. So I got a 10,800, but then I saw, I saw this and I remembered this average 02:17:38.480 --> 02:17:43.960 viewer watch duration 50%. Oh, but if I'm looking at the people currently watching, that is not how 02:17:43.960 --> 02:17:47.560 that would work. So if we round it down, cause I know Wancho takes a little bit to 02:17:48.440 --> 02:17:52.280 grow its viewership and we just go to 10,000, we hit pretty close to peak 02:17:52.280 --> 02:17:57.480 after about the first, I'm actually just looking at it right now, about an hour 02:17:57.480 --> 02:18:03.960 in, we're pretty close to peak. Yeah. Um, and if we change this to, so we go down to 10,000, so we shave off a 02:18:03.960 --> 02:18:06.960 decent amount of viewers and let's say a hundred percent, we can also do 90. 02:18:06.960 --> 02:18:10.560 Which one do you want to do? Uh, I wish we could do 75. 02:18:11.240 --> 02:18:16.640 Yeah. Uh, let's do 90. Let's do a worst case scenario because I also think you rounded down on how 02:18:16.680 --> 02:18:22.280 many people were watching. So I did. Yeah, I did. Yeah. So we'll round up on by like almost a thousand. 02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:27.520 That's crazy. Please tell me we're not spending that much. Right, right, right, because we're not watching on flow plane. 02:18:27.560 --> 02:18:31.760 We've got, uh, around 10% of that. 02:18:34.880 --> 02:18:35.640 Sorry, it's probably me. 02:18:39.440 --> 02:18:41.960 It's fun times every time we stream Wancho, really? 02:18:42.480 --> 02:18:47.080 Okay. So what Luke is trying to say is head on over to lttstore.com. 02:18:47.840 --> 02:18:51.200 Okay. Oh, sure. And send us a, send us a checkout message. 02:18:51.200 --> 02:18:56.240 Just go ahead and, you know, grab one of our new flexible magnetic cable 02:18:56.240 --> 02:19:02.280 management arches. Well, worm boys. Yep. Uh, or you can pick something up from our tax write-off sale. 02:19:02.600 --> 02:19:04.480 Uh, open box commuter backpack. 02:19:05.720 --> 02:19:09.560 Oh. Uh, boo. 02:19:11.000 --> 02:19:14.360 Oh. How do I get to the U S store? Very bottom. 02:19:15.000 --> 02:19:19.160 Yeah, I know. I just wish I could just alter the URL. Uh, okay. 02:19:19.160 --> 02:19:24.320 Well, they're still in the U S store. Well, anyway, uh, whatever. 02:19:24.360 --> 02:19:28.200 If you shop around, find something, send a merch message. Every little bit helps. 02:19:29.240 --> 02:19:32.760 What? Why not? You said merch message. Oh, shoot. 02:19:39.720 --> 02:19:41.800 Check out message. Check out message. 02:19:43.680 --> 02:19:44.040 Okay. 02:19:48.120 --> 02:19:51.560 Uh, what do you want to pick? Should we do? Should we do? 02:19:51.600 --> 02:19:54.720 Oh, that hurt. Yeah, those are interesting strategy. 02:19:55.840 --> 02:20:00.240 Well, that way I'll remember rubber band works to maybe, uh, there 02:20:00.240 --> 02:20:05.720 might be other ways to do that. I've tried all the other ways, Luke, kind of nine days. 02:20:06.360 --> 02:20:09.640 Let's do the Apple business thing. Apple unveils Apple business. 02:20:09.640 --> 02:20:13.720 An all in one platform to completely replace and consolidate their 02:20:13.720 --> 02:20:18.720 current offerings. It will unify device management, productivity tools, uh, device 02:20:18.720 --> 02:20:21.640 management and productivity tools within a single interface. 02:20:21.840 --> 02:20:25.640 Apple business will feature built in mobile device management or MDM using 02:20:25.640 --> 02:20:29.280 their new blueprint system to let admins reconfigure devices with 02:20:29.280 --> 02:20:36.360 specific apps and security policies. Additionally, it introduces managed Apple accounts with cryptographic 02:20:36.360 --> 02:20:39.040 separation between personal and work data. 02:20:39.440 --> 02:20:45.400 Cool. Uh, apart from IT features, like honestly, as someone who has done IT 02:20:45.400 --> 02:20:49.960 stuff, get your personal stuff off of, off of our things. 02:20:50.120 --> 02:20:55.000 I don't want to see your bank account publicly shared in a password manager. 02:20:55.360 --> 02:21:01.280 I don't want that. I, it's not, I actually specifically want that to not be there cause I 02:21:01.280 --> 02:21:07.080 don't want the responsibility of that being even possible. So just keep it on your own stuff. 02:21:07.520 --> 02:21:14.200 Anyways, it ran over. Uh, apart from IT features, Apple business also adds customer engagement 02:21:14.200 --> 02:21:18.440 features such as brand profiles, customizable place cards and Apple maps. 02:21:18.480 --> 02:21:25.320 Oh, neat. Um, and tap to pay branding. Apple also announced for their US and Canadian users later this summer that 02:21:25.320 --> 02:21:30.880 business will be able to businesses, maybe we'll be able to create search 02:21:30.880 --> 02:21:35.320 results, ads for Apple maps and a suggested places interface. 02:21:35.360 --> 02:21:38.760 Sure. I don't know. Um, out of all the things to make exclusive ads is a dit. 02:21:38.800 --> 02:21:44.800 I'm, oh yeah, that's a little odd. But anyways, uh, the platform will be freely available starting April 14th 02:21:44.800 --> 02:21:48.800 in over 200 countries. This is incredible. 02:21:49.360 --> 02:21:52.520 Um, this plus the MacBook Neo. 02:21:53.680 --> 02:21:57.160 Bruh, Apple is coming for your neck. 02:21:57.320 --> 02:22:00.720 If you're a huge variety of different companies, if you are an 02:22:00.720 --> 02:22:08.280 educational, if you, if you rely on shifting like huge numbers of books to 02:22:08.320 --> 02:22:15.160 educational institutions or in a corporate environment, Apple sees your 02:22:15.160 --> 02:22:21.720 pie and they're like, yes, yes, your pie and your pie and your pie. 02:22:21.840 --> 02:22:24.640 I'll have all the pie. I'll just have all of it. 02:22:25.000 --> 02:22:30.360 Um, they're because already you see so many MacBooks in corporate 02:22:30.360 --> 02:22:38.760 and in education, and that was with sort of previous versions of, of, of a mishmash 02:22:38.760 --> 02:22:44.280 of this functionality, bringing it all together in one easier to manage package 02:22:44.280 --> 02:22:49.440 because that that's what it ultimately comes down to is give me reasonable hardware, make it easy for me to manage. 02:22:49.720 --> 02:22:53.880 And I literally won't even call someone else unless it's just to get a 02:22:53.880 --> 02:22:57.800 competitive quote to like, you know, keep you accountable, keep you honest. 02:22:58.200 --> 02:23:05.520 Um, once someone locks in, there's a lot of inertia there, but in spite of the 02:23:05.520 --> 02:23:09.600 inertia of, you know, Chromebooks and Windows, I don't think anybody's 02:23:09.760 --> 02:23:11.840 thrilled with those platforms right now. 02:23:12.880 --> 02:23:17.920 And so for Apple to come in and say, Hey, we can take all of your problems and 02:23:17.920 --> 02:23:22.200 we can make them go away. Also the incredible annoyance of managing them. 02:23:22.240 --> 02:23:29.080 Oh, it's just free with that Apple magic. We put a little bit of Apple work to spit shine, spit shine that Apple for you. 02:23:30.640 --> 02:23:38.520 Dude, this is like a game changer. And I've talked extensively about this in the past, but whatever the youngins 02:23:38.560 --> 02:23:44.200 grow up using, has a serious impact on what they're going to want to use 02:23:44.200 --> 02:23:48.200 when they get older. It's one of the reasons that the piracy of the Adobe suite was such a game 02:23:48.200 --> 02:23:53.440 changer for Adobe. And why, as far as I can tell, DaVinci Resolve is going to take over in the 02:23:53.480 --> 02:24:00.000 next five to 10 years. Yeah. And not piracy in that case, but just free access to it with hard, with 02:24:00.000 --> 02:24:03.720 hardware purchase. Uh, at least I think it's still with hardware purchase. 02:24:03.720 --> 02:24:06.960 Do you still have to buy anything to get DaVinci? I don't think so. 02:24:06.960 --> 02:24:11.000 No, it's just free out, right? Yeah, you can get a pro version. 02:24:11.160 --> 02:24:14.200 Right. Okay. But otherwise DaVinci's are just free. 02:24:14.480 --> 02:24:17.240 This guy's are such mad. And it's so good. Such mad lads. 02:24:17.680 --> 02:24:20.880 Um, where was I going with this? Right. 02:24:21.120 --> 02:24:26.240 So, but unlike a Chromebook where there's a lot of friction around continuing 02:24:26.240 --> 02:24:33.440 to use a Chromebook forever because it just, you know, app compatibility. And it's always, I think it will drive me crazy forever. 02:24:34.760 --> 02:24:41.640 If Google loses this Chromebook thing and I look back at it and I go, you 02:24:41.640 --> 02:24:49.560 guys were Linux, you had an opportunity to embrace the Linux-ness of Chrome OS. 02:24:49.840 --> 02:24:51.480 You decided not to. 02:24:53.280 --> 02:24:59.280 Yeah. That will always, that will be like, that will be like a Microsoft phone level. 02:24:59.640 --> 02:25:04.240 Like, like Intel missing the, the investment in, well, I don't know how 02:25:04.240 --> 02:25:07.920 the opening, I think it's going to turn out, but like, I'm going to say, no, I'm going to say Microsoft phone. 02:25:07.920 --> 02:25:14.560 That will be like a Microsoft phone level colossal up to me to look back on and go, 02:25:14.960 --> 02:25:18.560 if this Chrome OS thing doesn't work out, the fact that you guys didn't just 02:25:18.960 --> 02:25:26.440 embrace Linux on it and not try to make it just a browser, I'll never get over it. 02:25:26.720 --> 02:25:28.800 Yeah. What a weird decision. 02:25:29.960 --> 02:25:34.920 Yeah. This is, this is crazy. Hold on. When Bingo Chronified says they have embraced it, it's trivially easy to 02:25:34.920 --> 02:25:41.560 enable the Linux underlay and get stuff like the, you'll see an open office in Chrome OS via Linux, trivially easy, but it should just, they 02:25:41.560 --> 02:25:51.640 should be promoting it is what I'm saying. There's a big difference between allowing it and pushing it and contributing 02:25:51.640 --> 02:25:59.720 to it, like what Valve is doing. Google should have been doing what Valve is doing, like really making Chrome 02:25:59.720 --> 02:26:07.560 OS a Linux distro. The biggest push for Linux in recent history was the Steam Deck and still is 02:26:07.560 --> 02:26:13.600 the Steam Deck. Yeah. Like if you look on ProtonDB, tons of the comments are Steam Deck 02:26:13.640 --> 02:26:18.000 based. Yeah. Because there's so freaking many of them out there. 02:26:20.280 --> 02:26:24.680 Yeah. All right. Oh, right. We're going to say something about the Apple platform. 02:26:24.680 --> 02:26:28.040 Where are we done? Uh, it probably didn't matter much. 02:26:28.120 --> 02:26:31.080 Um, what? The Apple platform? I think it's really important. 02:26:31.200 --> 02:26:33.600 Oh, thank God. Uh, he doesn't know. He doesn't know. 02:26:34.200 --> 02:26:36.920 macOS is Unix based, which is interesting. 02:26:37.240 --> 02:26:42.320 Um, I think as well, just like another competitor in that space, I think is 02:26:42.320 --> 02:26:49.240 actually really good. Um, I'm very frustrated with all of the current offerings. 02:26:49.960 --> 02:26:54.160 I think they just kind of suck at a conversation recently about our setup 02:26:54.160 --> 02:26:57.800 because we're trying to figure out moving off some of them to save money 02:26:57.800 --> 02:27:05.080 because we're on like just everything, which sucks. Um, and the conversation was something about like basically, I don't know. 02:27:05.280 --> 02:27:11.360 Uh, email just sucks everywhere because yeah, yeah, yeah, we're trying to reduce 02:27:11.360 --> 02:27:17.560 that. So like email just kind of sucks everywhere. And the reason why email sucks everywhere is because the basic functionality 02:27:17.600 --> 02:27:21.640 of email has been fine for a long time and search is bad everywhere. 02:27:21.720 --> 02:27:27.360 Yeah. So it's just like, okay, whatever. And then you get to messaging and it's like, okay, well, the messaging 02:27:27.360 --> 02:27:31.200 options are either really bad or too expensive for what they are. 02:27:31.240 --> 02:27:35.600 Dude, I searched for the word patent in my Gmail inbox the other day because, 02:27:35.680 --> 02:27:39.880 um, our wonderful boss asked me to find out if I had ever 02:27:39.920 --> 02:27:44.080 corresponded on something to do with a patent with someone. 02:27:44.480 --> 02:27:49.600 And I searched for it and I was like, why the f**k are these results out of order? 02:27:49.600 --> 02:27:54.680 And it turns out it defaulted to relevancy, which I decide what's relevant. 02:27:54.680 --> 02:27:59.520 I'm like, what are you talking about? I want, so I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. 02:28:00.040 --> 02:28:04.120 And all of a sudden they come to something that from very recent. And I said, I realize it's not chronological. 02:28:04.120 --> 02:28:09.800 I'm like, sure, if you want to have like, here's the three or four that I 02:28:09.800 --> 02:28:13.120 think are the most relevant and surface them at the top, yeah, that's fine. 02:28:13.120 --> 02:28:17.320 But by the time I'm sorting, by the time I've scrolled infinitely, you know, 02:28:17.360 --> 02:28:22.280 through three pages of results or whatever, obviously you didn't get it. 02:28:22.880 --> 02:28:29.120 Also, give it to me in chronological order. Obviously. If I do a super vague search term, yeah, like flight. 02:28:29.320 --> 02:28:33.160 Yeah. How could I just give me the most recent one? 02:28:33.200 --> 02:28:36.840 Oh, it never does. I'll get one from three years ago. It's crazy. 02:28:36.840 --> 02:28:39.680 Like, I don't know, flight San Francisco. 02:28:40.280 --> 02:28:43.880 And it'll be like, ah, yes, I do understand that you have a flight to 02:28:43.880 --> 02:28:47.720 San Francisco in three days, but I'm going to give you your ticket from seven 02:28:47.720 --> 02:28:51.440 years ago. Hope you wanted that. It's just like, why is it bro? 02:28:51.560 --> 02:28:55.920 Come on. Um, so like, yeah, basically nobody cares about email because it's just sort 02:28:55.920 --> 02:29:02.400 of all junk. Um, nobody cares that much about chat because it's like, do I care enough about 02:29:02.400 --> 02:29:06.000 how much better Slack is to pay more for it compared to teams? 02:29:06.480 --> 02:29:11.040 I don't know. Maybe developers kind of do, but outside of that, maybe not so much. 02:29:11.320 --> 02:29:14.440 Um, so most of it just kind of gets shrugged off. 02:29:14.440 --> 02:29:18.200 And the biggest problem we've ran into is like, wow, one drive is a fantastic 02:29:18.200 --> 02:29:23.320 piece of and while Google Drive might be kind of neat, Google Workspace 02:29:23.320 --> 02:29:27.200 bundling their AI crap into their subscriptions has made it so expensive. 02:29:27.400 --> 02:29:32.280 Dude, I was trying to, what was I trying to do the other day? 02:29:33.000 --> 02:29:35.360 I was, oh, I was trying to write an email. 02:29:36.120 --> 02:29:39.640 Um, hold on. Let me see if I can find this. 02:29:39.680 --> 02:29:43.520 I believe if you, you can get it out now, but there was like a period of time 02:29:43.520 --> 02:29:50.240 where they kind of forced AI junk to be included with their sales. No, it was, it was doing a bunch of like, like kind of like a spell check 02:29:50.240 --> 02:29:53.280 or grammar check, like squiggle under the words in my email. 02:29:53.800 --> 02:29:58.280 And I, in 10 seconds, very aggressive, didn't spend that much time. 02:29:58.360 --> 02:30:02.280 I couldn't figure out how to turn it off. And it kept sort of trying to recommend tone changes to me. 02:30:02.280 --> 02:30:07.400 And I'm like, no, it's an irate email. And it has an irate tone intentionally. 02:30:07.800 --> 02:30:11.040 Um, I was so annoyed. 02:30:11.320 --> 02:30:14.880 And I'd have to, I'd have to go and actually like type an email right now 02:30:14.880 --> 02:30:18.960 to get it to try to do it. Maybe I'll just, I'll find the one I sent last night and I'll put it in. 02:30:18.960 --> 02:30:23.640 But yeah, the biggest hurdle that we're running into is one moving off of a 02:30:23.640 --> 02:30:28.000 chat system that you're currently using onto another one is definitely possible 02:30:28.000 --> 02:30:31.840 no matter where you go, but there is a lot of like resetting up group chats 02:30:31.880 --> 02:30:34.920 and resetting up channels and stuff that will take some time. 02:30:34.920 --> 02:30:40.520 So you definitely lose some productivity in the switch. So it needs to be worth the productivity loss to save the money on the thing. 02:30:40.520 --> 02:30:47.520 Okay, sounds good. We can figure that out. Um, but the last one is just drive, um, trying to get out of Google Drive 02:30:47.560 --> 02:30:55.200 to something else, um, is proving a little daunting. 02:30:55.360 --> 02:31:00.000 If we do want to do that, um, should we, should we talk about, should we talk 02:31:00.000 --> 02:31:04.960 about that thing we set up locally, Dan? It's not doing it right now. So I don't, I don't exactly know why, but this is funny. 02:31:04.960 --> 02:31:08.520 Have I told the story about the conversation I had with, um, someone from 02:31:08.520 --> 02:31:13.280 Sony when I was over there recently, where one of the things that, um, I've 02:31:13.280 --> 02:31:18.360 started feeling tempted to do is to typo something on purpose in my email. 02:31:18.360 --> 02:31:20.240 So people know that it was written by a human. 02:31:21.400 --> 02:31:28.080 So I said, I sent her an email. Super nice to meet you. Had a really great time checking out the blank, uh, still under NDA. 02:31:28.440 --> 02:31:33.440 Uh, my only complaint is I can't show and talk about more of it. Looking forward to working together closely going forward. 02:31:33.600 --> 02:31:37.800 Here's a tip yo to prove. I wrote this instead of delegating it to AI. 02:31:39.200 --> 02:31:40.920 So I've officially done it once now. 02:31:42.800 --> 02:31:46.600 That's funny. Uh, try own cloud. We're, we're trying a few different things. 02:31:46.600 --> 02:31:51.200 The, the primary one where we've set up locally right now is next cloud. 02:31:51.360 --> 02:31:55.000 Just to play around with that, see how that goes out to us. 02:31:55.000 --> 02:32:00.280 Like all the time frequently. Okay. Yeah, that is the one. Guess it worked because it was top of mind. 02:32:00.680 --> 02:32:06.080 Um, hey, you know what they say, uh, if you don't get a date the first 500 02:32:06.080 --> 02:32:11.320 times, you should definitely ask again, 3000 more. Yeah, a lot of you know, that's not advice. 02:32:11.320 --> 02:32:16.120 Yeah, don't do that. That's not advice. That's literally harassment, not legal advice. 02:32:16.520 --> 02:32:18.200 Don't do that, but that's harassment. 02:32:20.200 --> 02:32:25.920 So we're, we're looking into that. It's a bastion posted in full plane chat and said, uh, where is it? 02:32:25.920 --> 02:32:31.680 Google drive is really good. It's unfortunate. I think the things that Google drive is really good at are honestly getting worse. 02:32:31.880 --> 02:32:37.120 Um, I think it's search is so abysmal that it's actually genuinely difficult 02:32:37.120 --> 02:32:42.800 to use at this point. Um, yeah, I'm like, why is it the, uh, okay. 02:32:42.800 --> 02:32:46.560 Hold on. I might be getting this wrong cause I know I've had issues sometimes like searching 02:32:46.560 --> 02:32:51.360 for a doc when I'm in Google drive or like searching for a file when I'm in 02:32:51.360 --> 02:32:55.320 Google docs, like they don't seem to be able to decide whether they're just one 02:32:55.320 --> 02:32:59.360 platform or whether they're like separate platforms and I can never quite 02:32:59.360 --> 02:33:03.840 remember the rules of which things work across which other things. 02:33:03.880 --> 02:33:07.840 It's very weird. Um, so I'm not going to get into anything specific right now. 02:33:08.520 --> 02:33:12.200 So one brought up protons platform. I honestly didn't consider that one. 02:33:12.440 --> 02:33:16.440 Um, yeah. It's an interesting idea. 02:33:19.360 --> 02:33:22.720 They're improving both the drives, photos, docs, a bunch of stuff since launch. 02:33:22.720 --> 02:33:28.040 Yeah. The primary thing that we need from their like drive is their collaborative 02:33:28.120 --> 02:33:34.600 stuff because, uh, I will never be able to pry Excel even out of the cold dead 02:33:34.600 --> 02:33:38.600 hands of many people at the office. It's still wouldn't be able to get out of their hands. 02:33:38.600 --> 02:33:44.360 So there's going to be desktop act apps required for, from Microsoft, literally 02:33:44.360 --> 02:33:50.480 just for Excel for a decent amount of people. But outside of that, we need highly collaborative documents, both in sheet 02:33:50.480 --> 02:33:54.240 form and document form and form form. 02:33:54.480 --> 02:33:57.440 Oh, Google forms is actually kind of goaded. Yeah. 02:33:57.480 --> 02:34:02.000 We seemed to be in a competition for years about, uh, can we find ways to buy 02:34:02.280 --> 02:34:07.240 Google forms in other ways and then use those instead of using Google forms? 02:34:07.240 --> 02:34:10.520 And I don't know why, but we seem to be mostly done doing that now, which is very 02:34:10.520 --> 02:34:17.240 cool. Sorry, buy them in other ways. Yeah. Just try to find an external company that basically just has Google forms and 02:34:17.240 --> 02:34:20.840 then pay for that and then use it for things internally. We, we did that like a lot. 02:34:21.080 --> 02:34:24.880 There was, there was a lot of that going on. Uh, don't we just use Google forms though? 02:34:25.240 --> 02:34:29.520 Oh, no. What? No, I don't understand what you're talking about right now. 02:34:29.560 --> 02:34:33.200 Uh, does anyone else understand what he's talking about? I know like jot form. 02:34:33.200 --> 02:34:38.240 Someone, someone in chat guessed it. I think jot form was something that we used for a while for like a bunch of 02:34:38.240 --> 02:34:43.240 things internally, but we do use Google forms for a lot. Like we had some Q and a stuff from the last all hands. 02:34:43.240 --> 02:34:49.320 And we also pay for jot form. And we also pay for, I think one or two other things that are basically 02:34:49.320 --> 02:34:52.760 just Google forms. Um, why? Well, not as much anymore. 02:34:52.760 --> 02:34:57.560 Oh, I thought you were saying this was a strategy we were pursuing. I was making a joke about how it seemed like it was. 02:34:58.160 --> 02:35:02.560 Yeah. Yeah. Well, man, there's been, there's been a lot of stuff like that where someone 02:35:02.560 --> 02:35:07.640 has like a particular snowflake tool that they want to use. And it's like, okay, bro, but couldn't you just do this in a spreadsheet? 02:35:08.040 --> 02:35:13.000 Yeah. Um, I mean, I was always just like, can we just, is there, can we just do this in 02:35:13.000 --> 02:35:17.080 a spreadsheet with some macros? It turns out Google sheets is like really powerful. 02:35:17.280 --> 02:35:21.600 No, it's not Excel. Don't shoot me, but it is very powerful. 02:35:22.000 --> 02:35:29.800 Yeah. It's funny too. If you look at the like Microsoft office, um, let me try to find this. 02:35:30.200 --> 02:35:33.280 I was poking around Microsoft office subscriptions the other day and it's, 02:35:33.320 --> 02:35:39.000 it's really kind of funky. Um, you can just buy Excel, like non-subscription. 02:35:39.240 --> 02:35:45.000 Really? It's like kind of hard to find it. Um, buy Excel. 02:35:45.480 --> 02:35:48.560 That's actually pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. 02:35:48.560 --> 02:35:52.360 Here we go. Blink. 170 bucks. Oh, well, I would do that. 02:35:52.720 --> 02:35:56.560 You can just buy it for one PC or Mac. Turn data into useful insights. 02:35:56.680 --> 02:36:01.320 Can you imagine if it was your job to write the marketing blurb for Microsoft Excel? 02:36:01.480 --> 02:36:06.160 Hold on. What else they got here? Spread, share your spreadsheet with others and edit together in real time. 02:36:06.160 --> 02:36:11.000 Asterisk files must be shared from one drive. Compatible with Windows 11, Windows 10 or macOS. 02:36:11.000 --> 02:36:12.760 Wow. Thanks Microsoft. 02:36:14.000 --> 02:36:17.320 Requirements. Additional system requirements. Internet access. 02:36:17.400 --> 02:36:19.440 Microsoft account. Oh, you f**kers. 02:36:22.640 --> 02:36:25.680 But yeah, you can just buy Excel, which I thought was pretty interesting. 02:36:25.680 --> 02:36:30.280 Actually, I didn't realize you could actually just do that. Um, so that was, that was fascinating. 02:36:30.560 --> 02:36:34.040 They're making the support period for standalone apps super short. 02:36:34.080 --> 02:36:37.720 Right. What it used to be to encourage Microsoft 365 cells. Oh, that makes sense. 02:36:37.720 --> 02:36:43.760 That's from Pankrats. Uh, but even, even if you look at their subscriptions, I was kind of poking into 02:36:43.800 --> 02:36:50.720 this, so we need, so yeah, you have plans with teams and your nice cheap one is 02:36:50.720 --> 02:36:56.680 eight bucks, but this one, you can tell what they, you can tell they know about 02:36:56.680 --> 02:37:00.000 Excel, that was the most interesting thing for me to discover, because this, 02:37:00.000 --> 02:37:04.000 the cheap one, the eight dollars and ten cents one only includes the web and 02:37:04.000 --> 02:37:09.680 mobile versions of Excel. So you can't get the desktop version and I was, I was talking to, I think it was 02:37:09.680 --> 02:37:19.480 Terran, I was talking to Terran about how I think it's interesting that through subscription models, they self incentivize, not making their web versions good. 02:37:21.360 --> 02:37:25.680 Which I find so funny. I know you love perverse incentives. 02:37:25.680 --> 02:37:29.120 Like it's something you find like a fascinating, it is very fast to me, I 02:37:29.120 --> 02:37:34.440 guess, um, but like, yeah, because the jump to get the desktop version is 02:37:34.680 --> 02:37:39.800 double huge. It's literally, and I noticed that if you go for, I think it's plans without 02:37:39.800 --> 02:37:43.200 teams, I'm going to have to find it. So we don't necessarily have to share yet. 02:37:43.240 --> 02:37:51.800 Oh, no, here it is. Just Microsoft 365 apps for business, which includes the desktop versions is 02:37:51.800 --> 02:37:52.960 more expensive. 02:37:57.120 --> 02:38:01.880 So you know, you know that they know internally that people really just need 02:38:01.880 --> 02:38:04.960 desktop Excel, because it's so much better than everything else. 02:38:05.200 --> 02:38:11.600 And they, there must have it. So I really think there's a pretty strong incentive to not make the web 02:38:11.600 --> 02:38:16.160 version good, because the web version is right next to that with more other 02:38:16.160 --> 02:38:18.960 features at like half the price. 02:38:19.560 --> 02:38:23.080 Six bucks includes web of Excel and everything else. 02:38:23.080 --> 02:38:27.920 Microsoft is like the, the Facebook marketplace equivalent of I know what I 02:38:27.920 --> 02:38:33.840 got, but only with Microsoft Excel, everything else is just like, how can 02:38:34.000 --> 02:38:39.360 we try to make this Excel bouquet look compel more compelling than the other 02:38:39.360 --> 02:38:45.560 Excel bouquet? Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, that was wild to me because I'm basically 02:38:45.560 --> 02:38:49.800 trying to figure it like, okay, there's a lot of like, what happens if we go 02:38:49.800 --> 02:38:53.720 down X or Y path? It's like, do we stick with just Microsoft? Do we stick with just Google? 02:38:54.000 --> 02:38:57.640 Do we go with some, some hybrid that's different than the hybrid we have now? 02:38:57.720 --> 02:39:01.280 Do we use Apple numbers? Do we do something weird like that? 02:39:01.520 --> 02:39:06.800 And one of the static facts is that we must have Excel for certain people. 02:39:06.840 --> 02:39:11.640 Yeah. It's not a crazy amount of the company, but it is. There are some people that must be counting people, some of the people who 02:39:11.640 --> 02:39:15.920 work in like logistics and planning and like, they just need more powerful sheets. 02:39:16.000 --> 02:39:22.680 Yeah. So sounds good. And it just turns out, yeah, I mean, it might just be 1170 a month to get them 02:39:23.600 --> 02:39:26.360 word Excel PowerPoint, that look and they will open one of those. 02:39:27.360 --> 02:39:31.280 They might accidentally open word. 02:39:31.440 --> 02:39:36.200 Maybe. Yeah. Or PowerPoint. Imagine using PowerPoint these days. 02:39:36.200 --> 02:39:39.440 I should really just use Google Slides. Yeah. 02:39:39.440 --> 02:39:45.360 It's actually just easier. Yeah. To be clear, I'm not saying it's not better slides is better, but I'm 02:39:45.360 --> 02:39:52.080 saying for how good a slide needs to be for 98% of people who need to make slides 02:39:52.320 --> 02:39:55.840 where no one's really going to look at them, Google Slides is fine. 02:39:57.040 --> 02:40:00.120 Yeah. Cephalus says, I use PowerPoint at work all the time. 02:40:00.120 --> 02:40:03.560 It's fine. It's fine. It's totally fine. We're not saying it's bad. 02:40:03.600 --> 02:40:08.400 Yeah. We're just saying that for how closely anybody's going to look at a PowerPoint slide. 02:40:09.160 --> 02:40:12.360 Yeah. Okay. 02:40:12.600 --> 02:40:18.760 Do you want to move on? Yeah. Crimson Desert finally gets support and soon optimization for Intel GPUs after 02:40:18.760 --> 02:40:21.800 initially locking out ARC cards at launch. 02:40:22.040 --> 02:40:25.160 This was shocking to see how this played out in public. 02:40:25.280 --> 02:40:31.840 Yes. I don't normally see Intel just like publicly put someone on blast like that. 02:40:31.840 --> 02:40:35.520 They really did. And I honestly, I'm here for it. I respect it. 02:40:35.840 --> 02:40:40.560 I'm here for it. Yep. They're acting hungry, which is what I like about Intel's ARC guys. 02:40:40.560 --> 02:40:44.560 Yeah. Like they're acting, they're acting hungry. They're acting scrappy. 02:40:44.800 --> 02:40:47.640 Do we have the original quote from them somewhere in here? 02:40:48.680 --> 02:40:54.840 Yeah. It's right here. Over the past several years, we've reached out to Pearl Abyss many times to 02:40:54.840 --> 02:40:59.120 help test, validate and optimize support for Intel graphics, providing early 02:40:59.120 --> 02:41:04.280 hardware, drivers and engineering resources across multiple generations of Intel GPUs. 02:41:04.640 --> 02:41:11.120 That is an absolute mic drop of a truth bomb after Pearl Abyss was basically 02:41:11.120 --> 02:41:15.360 like, no, we can't. Oh, no, we can't. Yeah. You know, look into return. 02:41:15.520 --> 02:41:20.240 Can you imagine that you put all the support on the table and someone literally 02:41:20.240 --> 02:41:23.840 says, if you have this product, look into the return policy for our game, 02:41:23.840 --> 02:41:28.040 because we are just not interested. That sucks so much. 02:41:28.040 --> 02:41:32.400 That sucks so much. But I am happy that they seem to have pivoted since then. 02:41:32.400 --> 02:41:34.800 Yeah. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out. 02:41:35.720 --> 02:41:41.200 Okay. Crimson Desert devs, shout out Intel team for just burying the hatchet and getting 02:41:41.200 --> 02:41:48.760 things done for the sake of gamers. Um, David Goatier, who prepared this topic, one of our writers says, it's worth 02:41:48.760 --> 02:41:53.160 noting Intel is currently approaching 1% market share, which sounds really small until 02:41:53.160 --> 02:41:57.720 you consider that we think of AMD as like, you know, the, the other player, you 02:41:57.720 --> 02:42:02.640 know, and AMD is at like approximately 7% according to the numbers that he's got, 02:42:02.640 --> 02:42:09.720 which I think I thought it was actually lower than I was going to say, wherever these numbers are from, uh, are painting a better picture than was recently in my 02:42:09.720 --> 02:42:13.240 head. So hopefully those numbers are accurate. I thought NVIDIA was closer to 95 right now. 02:42:13.240 --> 02:42:16.280 I thought they were two, but hopefully we're wrong and those numbers are right. 02:42:16.640 --> 02:42:20.000 Yeah. That would be awesome. All right. What else we got? 02:42:20.000 --> 02:42:24.360 But yeah, I, I, I'm going to say again, it would be a sick, uh, you know, 180 02:42:24.360 --> 02:42:28.480 maneuver if, if Intel was able to get it nicely optimized and then bundle it with 02:42:28.480 --> 02:42:31.920 their GPUs. I think that'd be awesome. One another good news WAN Show item. 02:42:31.960 --> 02:42:37.640 Yes. Uh, just a reminder, guys, we are gearing up for good news WAN Show month next 02:42:37.640 --> 02:42:40.880 month, April is going to be all good news WAN shows. 02:42:40.880 --> 02:42:45.640 If it's not good news or can't at least be interpreted in a positive way, uh, 02:42:45.720 --> 02:42:48.400 maybe we'll have a car vote for one bad news topic. 02:42:49.000 --> 02:42:52.320 That's it. Maybe it's going to have to be important. 02:42:52.400 --> 02:42:55.440 Very important, critical. Yeah. Critically important. 02:42:55.480 --> 02:42:58.640 Yeah. Uh, so good news WAN Show is coming next month. 02:42:58.640 --> 02:43:05.400 We're very excited for it. Also some other WAN Show news is we are going to be starting the WAN Show 02:43:05.400 --> 02:43:13.080 transition quite soon. We're moving from the LTT channel to the LMG clips channel, which is soon to be 02:43:13.080 --> 02:43:18.240 rebranded as the WAN Show that is going to start on April 3rd, 2026. 02:43:18.480 --> 02:43:23.320 And for some period of time, it will stream to both channels simultaneously. 02:43:23.680 --> 02:43:29.680 Uh, that soft transition is going to continue for some number of months. 02:43:29.960 --> 02:43:34.480 And in the weeks leading up to the full final transition over to the WAN Show 02:43:34.480 --> 02:43:38.000 channel, currently the LMG clips channel, we will be sure to make multiple 02:43:38.000 --> 02:43:41.560 announcements so nobody gets lost trying to find the show. 02:43:42.640 --> 02:43:50.480 I had a fun idea. Because you know how people can be resistant to, you know, change, you know, 02:43:50.480 --> 02:43:54.880 how they can be, and, you know, there, there can be sort of, there's, there's a 02:43:54.880 --> 02:43:59.680 friction to, you know, transition, you know, platform transition, even if it's 02:43:59.720 --> 02:44:00.760 within the same platform. 02:44:03.480 --> 02:44:08.760 What do you think of the idea of simultaneously streaming on both platforms 02:44:09.480 --> 02:44:12.680 for a really long time? Really long time. 02:44:13.160 --> 02:44:16.840 I'm talking like six months, but hear me out. 02:44:17.560 --> 02:44:23.600 Every week, the YouTube stream gets reduced by like 50 kilobit per second. 02:44:31.440 --> 02:44:35.680 There'd have to be, there'd have to be YouTube stream. I meant the line of tech channel stream. 02:44:35.760 --> 02:44:40.400 I knew it. Yeah. So, so the LMG clips stream on YouTube would be full, full bit rate. 02:44:41.400 --> 02:44:48.040 Uh, I think we'd have to have something explaining it. So, so, well, no, because the community will self police at that point, it will 02:44:48.040 --> 02:44:52.240 make people go, Hey, what's going on? And then it will make people discuss it. 02:44:52.800 --> 02:44:57.880 And then they'll go, Oh, okay. And then they can transition over to the other one. 02:44:59.360 --> 02:45:02.280 Interesting. I wonder if I can lower the frame rate as well. 02:45:02.560 --> 02:45:09.720 Uh, I'd say that would be towards the very end. Like where we start, we make it like 10 FPS, one, one FPS. 02:45:09.720 --> 02:45:14.320 The WAN Show would be really funny. Yeah. And so, and so the whole, it might be too entertaining. 02:45:14.400 --> 02:45:19.520 The whole conversation of it is just going to be, what the WTF is going on here? 02:45:19.520 --> 02:45:24.480 Can't these guys run a live stream? And they'll be like, dude, they've been talking about this for six months. 02:45:24.560 --> 02:45:30.280 Go watch it over here. Problem solved. And so we just, we make it like, we make it like a meme. 02:45:30.480 --> 02:45:33.640 And then it can even be, you know, you can, you'll even have people that you know 02:45:33.640 --> 02:45:37.560 are going to engage with this, like very stubbornly, like, I'm going to hold out 02:45:37.560 --> 02:45:41.040 until the end. I will literally refuse until the final day. 02:45:41.080 --> 02:45:46.640 I will be that last person playing Halo on Xbox 360. I will watch it 10 kilobits per second, you know, or whatever. 02:45:46.640 --> 02:45:52.960 Like I think, I think that something like this would be a really good way to really 02:45:52.960 --> 02:45:56.480 ease the transition. One oddly colored pixel. 02:45:57.480 --> 02:46:00.200 The only thing coming through. Deep fried audio. 02:46:00.680 --> 02:46:05.800 Yeah. Yeah, we could have, we could, we could go until we actually resemble, um, 02:46:06.800 --> 02:46:12.000 someone pointed out the pixelated Linus and Luke. Hold on. I'm trying to find the old glitchy ones. 02:46:12.040 --> 02:46:15.480 Oh, actually, I didn't mean that. I meant the, like in the intro. 02:46:15.680 --> 02:46:20.240 Oh, I thought you meant the, like the ancient wanshows that are all corrupted on 02:46:20.240 --> 02:46:24.440 YouTube? Oh, well, okay. Well, that's, hold on. 02:46:24.680 --> 02:46:30.640 Huh? Wait, where are they? Yeah, I know these guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until we actually look more like these guys than like these guys. 02:46:31.320 --> 02:46:34.120 You should just AI overlay us, turn us into pixel bros. 02:46:34.360 --> 02:46:37.880 Someone pointed out, apparently Doug, Doug has a video on how people will be 02:46:37.880 --> 02:46:41.000 stubborn in these situations or something. And like, yeah, absolutely. 02:46:41.000 --> 02:46:44.760 There's a ton of people that won't, I think it's going to be a combination of people are going to be stubborn. 02:46:44.760 --> 02:46:49.760 And also when we stop streaming on LTT, I think how the algorithm works in the 02:46:49.760 --> 02:46:53.200 like viewers, like you watch this thing, therefore I will recommend it way. 02:46:53.400 --> 02:47:00.920 I think a bunch of people won't even realize they're on a different channel. And, and with the slow transition, we'll also give the algorithm a lot of time 02:47:00.920 --> 02:47:04.160 to learn who these overlapping audiences are. Yeah. 02:47:04.320 --> 02:47:09.440 Um, so I'm, I'm, I kind of, because I don't want to mess with the audio. 02:47:09.800 --> 02:47:12.480 I think we should leave the audio alone. I think that's fair. 02:47:12.840 --> 02:47:19.320 But over time, we just degrade the video experience until finally we're down to 02:47:19.320 --> 02:47:25.520 like, yeah, a couple of pixels kind of barely, barely even able to make out what 02:47:25.520 --> 02:47:30.160 you're looking at. And we go, Hey guys, you may have noticed over the last few months that the 02:47:30.160 --> 02:47:34.040 video quality on you, on the LTT channel has been a little on the low side. 02:47:34.320 --> 02:47:38.040 This is the last WAN Show here. We're moving over to the new WAN Show channel. 02:47:38.320 --> 02:47:42.960 And this is actually really important because the WAN Show is now officially 02:47:43.320 --> 02:47:46.360 uh, co-owned by me and Luke 50%. 02:47:46.760 --> 02:47:53.240 Um, and we have to have it on a separate channel, intellectual property, corporate 02:47:53.240 --> 02:47:58.880 ownership, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. For the full plane people, I believe the plan right now is that it's, 02:47:59.240 --> 02:48:05.600 it'll just be on the LMG channels. Yeah, I think, I do think we wanted to talk to Sammy and get it split out into 02:48:05.600 --> 02:48:09.120 its own sub channel, but that does not mean it would be a new subscription. 02:48:09.120 --> 02:48:11.840 That would literally actually just, we should just do that anyways. 02:48:12.120 --> 02:48:15.680 Uh, cause it's for organizational reasons. So it just looks like this. 02:48:16.040 --> 02:48:20.640 So on the side, you've got line of tech tips and then you've got all your various 02:48:20.680 --> 02:48:25.680 sub channels. Uh, so we would just add a WAN Show one and then we can keep it kind of simple that 02:48:25.680 --> 02:48:33.880 way. Yeah, speaking of Floatplane, Sammy has some Floatplane announcements that he wants us to talk about the Korean tech mall video was 02:48:33.880 --> 02:48:41.240 released very early on Floatplane. If you don't want to wait till Monday to see that it is available right now. 02:48:42.080 --> 02:48:47.240 Um, and this is, this is really how I felt when I had to go shopping. 02:48:47.560 --> 02:48:54.000 Can I find what I forgot in Korea's largest tech mall? If you guys are regular WAN Show viewers, you'll know that I streamed from 02:48:54.000 --> 02:48:59.160 South Korea last, last week, two weeks ago, times a blur. 02:48:59.200 --> 02:49:05.920 I don't know, two weeks ago, two weeks ago. And not last week, at least I talked about how I forgot my camera and forgot my 02:49:05.920 --> 02:49:11.280 microphone and forgot any means of setting it up in any ergonomic way. 02:49:11.560 --> 02:49:16.160 So I had to go shopping even though I was actually on vacation and I wasn't planning 02:49:16.160 --> 02:49:21.120 to make any videos. And if I'm going to go to a tech mall in a country that I've never made a 02:49:21.120 --> 02:49:26.840 tech mall video in before, then I guess I might as well point a selfie camera at 02:49:26.840 --> 02:49:29.840 myself. So it looks like, well, it looks like people are actually liking this video. 02:49:30.000 --> 02:49:35.160 Wasn't it, wasn't it a WAN's idea too? Yeah, yeah. She was like, well, like you might as well just make a video because you're 02:49:35.160 --> 02:49:41.320 going to go shopping anyway. Um, it had a really different vibe from a lot of our content because I shot the 02:49:41.320 --> 02:49:46.280 whole thing myself, just me and an iPhone and a decent mic. 02:49:46.280 --> 02:49:50.960 Well, I didn't have a camera operator. I wasn't, I'm, I'm, I'm realizing like literally this format of you 02:49:51.000 --> 02:49:56.240 self-filming only really shows up sometimes in like maybe a scrapyard wars or 02:49:56.240 --> 02:49:59.920 something like that. Yeah. It's, it's like, this is almost weird to see. 02:50:00.120 --> 02:50:03.960 Yeah, I know, right? Like this would usually be like some video you would just DM me. 02:50:04.880 --> 02:50:10.560 Like it's not, it's not really like, yeah, not a super common Linus angle on, on, on 02:50:10.560 --> 02:50:16.440 the public video. It's a, it's a really, uh, it's, it's kind of a fun video because I, I end up 02:50:16.440 --> 02:50:20.080 finding a lot of like really weird stuff. I'm excited for this one. 02:50:20.080 --> 02:50:23.840 Like there's parts of this place that seem almost abandoned. 02:50:24.680 --> 02:50:30.680 Um, like the amount of just random old systems and e-waste and like, like, oh, 02:50:30.680 --> 02:50:36.080 there's a lot of e-waste and just vast empty hallways with just like garbage in 02:50:36.080 --> 02:50:39.160 them and stuff. It's a, it's, it's kind of a weird video. 02:50:39.240 --> 02:50:42.080 Interesting. Yeah. And it's, it's kind of a weird place. 02:50:42.680 --> 02:50:48.360 Um, anyway, on top of that, I have more videos to release for you guys. 02:50:48.840 --> 02:50:53.200 Wow. Look at that. Here's a second Dank Pods video. 02:50:53.400 --> 02:50:56.240 Second collab with Dank Pods. Boom. Go on public. 02:50:56.400 --> 02:51:03.760 His system got broken on his way to Whaleland because Wade apparently has 02:51:03.760 --> 02:51:09.200 never seen the classic Linus Tech Tips episode, how to pack your PC. 02:51:12.960 --> 02:51:16.400 What is this? What, who's this guy? Who's this guy? 02:51:16.880 --> 02:51:20.800 How to pack your PC? 40. There it is. 02:51:21.400 --> 02:51:24.640 Okay. Well, maybe we should have had a less click baity title. 02:51:24.720 --> 02:51:28.280 How to not smash your PC. Gaming rig packing and moving guides. 02:51:28.280 --> 02:51:32.000 So he should have watched that because it had a lot of tech tips that he could have 02:51:32.000 --> 02:51:39.400 used his computer got all bashed up. It was making rattling noises when we, when I shook it to start the video. 02:51:39.600 --> 02:51:44.160 Um, so I, I helped him fix it and then, and then my Linux curse struck. 02:51:45.080 --> 02:51:50.640 So I fixed his computer in a hardware fashion and then broke it in the software 02:51:50.720 --> 02:51:54.760 by just being there. I heard about that. I didn't do anything. 02:51:55.560 --> 02:52:00.440 I had so many witnesses. Adam witnessed it. One of our new camera guys witnessed it. 02:52:00.480 --> 02:52:03.560 Wade witnessed it. They saw me. I did nothing. 02:52:03.680 --> 02:52:08.680 I broke his bass light and I'm sorry, but I didn't do anything. 02:52:09.200 --> 02:52:13.920 I was just present. Yeah. Anyway, that's a, that's a pretty fun video. 02:52:13.920 --> 02:52:17.360 It's a pretty good one. Uh, we also have extras from that video. 02:52:17.400 --> 02:52:24.040 Um, finally we made a, an alternatives to discord video, giving you guys, uh, some, 02:52:24.080 --> 02:52:29.120 some ideas for other software that you can use now that they've got their, um, 02:52:29.560 --> 02:52:32.520 their, their ID stuff that they're working on. 02:52:32.720 --> 02:52:38.080 I'm going to go ahead and make that live now as well. Lots of, lots of early access right now on Floatplane. 02:52:38.080 --> 02:52:42.720 These all obviously come to YouTube. Oh, that's early access too. At some point we're a little late on that. 02:52:43.400 --> 02:52:47.440 Yeah, but it's a, it's a good video actually. I watched it today. Cool. Yeah, it's, it's solid. 02:52:47.520 --> 02:52:50.440 I'm, I'm actually really, it was one that was done when I wasn't here. 02:52:50.640 --> 02:52:56.560 What? No, I just, uh, Nick, you're from the lab pointed out the other day that he, he 02:52:56.560 --> 02:53:06.800 really likes Wendell's thumbnails and I just, oh man, there was a, there was 02:53:06.800 --> 02:53:10.080 another one recently, um, this one. 02:53:12.720 --> 02:53:26.280 That's what your, that's what your thumbnails look like when you actually 02:53:26.280 --> 02:53:30.480 don't give any f***s how your video performs and you are just doing it for 02:53:30.480 --> 02:53:33.200 the lulls just for the love of the game, man. 02:53:33.520 --> 02:53:38.040 I love it. I love it. I respect it so much. 02:53:39.080 --> 02:53:44.000 It's so, so based. What a guy. Just cute Wendell. 02:53:46.000 --> 02:53:48.480 Oh man. All right. 02:53:49.320 --> 02:53:54.280 Thank you for that. Uh, I can't tell what's going on right now. 02:53:54.280 --> 02:53:58.240 Did I release everything that I was supposed to release? I think so. 02:53:58.560 --> 02:54:02.920 I have the Wade video, the, sorry. I'm like doing actual work right now. 02:54:02.920 --> 02:54:07.120 So I'm confused. Korean tech mall video. I released that one, the extras and the discord. 02:54:07.680 --> 02:54:10.920 Did I get them all? Yes. Okay. I got them all. I think I'm good. I think so. 02:54:11.080 --> 02:54:17.440 Awesome. So three early access videos now available at LMG.GG slash F.P. 02:54:17.480 --> 02:54:24.160 WAN. Oh, do we have our own vanity? You're all I guess, I guess this is part of like making sure that you 02:54:24.160 --> 02:54:27.680 get your commissions. It's just 50% only show. 02:54:27.680 --> 02:54:33.120 Yeah. No, that's totally true. It's mostly only, only relevant if something fundamentally changes. 02:54:33.320 --> 02:54:37.800 Yeah. But we do have to lay the groundwork now. It's really important to do it now. 02:54:37.920 --> 02:54:45.800 Yeah. All right. You know what else is really important to do now is talk about how the 02:54:45.800 --> 02:54:51.800 Supreme court in the US has ruled that ISPs, internet service providers are 02:54:52.040 --> 02:54:55.720 not liable for user piracy on their networks. 02:54:56.000 --> 02:55:00.520 A lawsuit between record labels and US ISP Cox communications over an 02:55:00.520 --> 02:55:06.320 alleged failure to deter repeat piracy received a Supreme court ruling in 02:55:07.160 --> 02:55:11.560 Cox's favor. I personally am also in favor of Cox. 02:55:14.800 --> 02:55:19.200 Go Cox. They're a really, really big company. 02:55:19.960 --> 02:55:26.320 Um, okay. Maybe. Well, in this case, in this specific case, uh, I remember actually, I 02:55:26.320 --> 02:55:31.240 actually remember talking about this on land show like half a decade ago. 02:55:31.640 --> 02:55:34.720 Like this has been, this has been gumming up the works for a long time. Oh, here it is. 02:55:34.720 --> 02:55:40.840 Right in the notes. The case began in 2018 when record labels led by Sony and Warner said 02:55:40.840 --> 02:55:46.160 that Cox received tens of thousands of infringement notices, identifying 02:55:46.160 --> 02:55:51.240 repeat violators, but then failed to meaningfully suspend or terminate those 02:55:51.240 --> 02:55:58.600 accounts, which is weird. Cause usually they usually they send out just such a surge of Cox argued that 02:55:58.600 --> 02:56:02.920 previous rulings against it would force ISPs to act as copyright police, which 02:56:03.120 --> 02:56:09.000 actually kind of a fair point. A 2019 jury in Virginia had found Cox liable and awarded a billion 02:56:09.040 --> 02:56:14.360 dollars in damages, a billion dollars in damages to my Cox, not to my Cox. 02:56:14.600 --> 02:56:21.040 No, I won't stand for it. The fourth circuit court of appeals threw out the damages and part of the 02:56:21.040 --> 02:56:23.560 liability and ordered a new trial to determine damages. 02:56:24.120 --> 02:56:27.320 Cox then asked the Supreme court to intervene. 02:56:27.960 --> 02:56:32.520 Um, yeah, it's hard to really be on the side of big ISPs. 02:56:32.560 --> 02:56:38.040 I'm also wondering if this could be a bad thing. Cause would this, could this shift attention to users? 02:56:38.640 --> 02:56:46.560 Possibly. But then if the ISPs are not liable, then you can guarantee that they're 02:56:46.560 --> 02:56:51.640 not going to like do the work care and cooperate anymore than they like 02:56:51.640 --> 02:56:55.480 absolutely have to, because at the end of the day, you don't want to be the ISP 02:56:55.840 --> 02:57:01.360 that customers start talking about how you get people like sued for piracy. 02:57:01.360 --> 02:57:06.400 And the whole going after end users thing proved to be so unpopular back in 02:57:06.400 --> 02:57:10.280 the early 2000s that the record labels gave up. 02:57:10.520 --> 02:57:17.520 Yeah. Yeah. Like there, there are, yeah, there are artists who even still today wear that, 02:57:17.680 --> 02:57:24.240 that cone of shame for, for going after individuals downloading their songs. 02:57:24.240 --> 02:57:27.680 Like I just, I don't, I don't see it happening. 02:57:27.760 --> 02:57:33.240 Then again, hey, the world keeps finding new ways to be even more dystopian. 02:57:33.240 --> 02:57:40.720 So no guarantees, but this does seem like overall for user pie, excuse me, 02:57:40.920 --> 02:57:44.240 privacy, um, a plus. 02:57:44.960 --> 02:57:49.440 Uh, and if you happen to be a pirate, then it also seems like a plus for that as well. 02:57:50.560 --> 02:57:55.640 Here's a downer, Qualcomm shut the door on Snapdragon X DSP headers, open 02:57:55.640 --> 02:57:59.600 sourcing and Linux support hopes seem to be fading. 02:57:59.960 --> 02:58:03.440 Qualcomm has closed a GitHub issue, requesting open source DSP headers for 02:58:03.440 --> 02:58:07.520 Snapdragon X chips with a blunt, no plans for that as of now. 02:58:08.000 --> 02:58:11.920 Linux can still boot on Snapdragon X laptops, but without full DSP headers, 02:58:12.040 --> 02:58:16.240 full upstream support for things like audio sensors and NPU offloading remain 02:58:16.280 --> 02:58:24.200 out of reach. This is, uh, interesting move, not in with the current vibe, bold move. 02:58:24.240 --> 02:58:29.440 Yeah. This may help explain why Tuxedo canceled its Snapdragon X one elite Linux laptop 02:58:29.440 --> 02:58:33.960 after 18 months of development and canonical still relies on patched packages 02:58:33.960 --> 02:58:36.800 and a Qualcomm specific work in progress kernel. 02:58:36.960 --> 02:58:41.120 I also find it interesting because at their summit that they had, which myself 02:58:41.120 --> 02:58:48.360 and Nick and Lucas attended, I would genuinely say the most prevalent topic 02:58:48.400 --> 02:58:52.320 of question that was at like the panel and when we're walking around talking 02:58:52.320 --> 02:58:58.000 to people and stuff was based around Linux. There was a lot of people in the audience that were very Linux 02:58:58.000 --> 02:59:01.800 build, I think probably, and I think Qualcomm recognized this a higher 02:59:01.800 --> 02:59:09.800 percentage than probably users, to be honest. Well, yeah, because when you're a brand new hardware with, you know, brand new, 02:59:10.000 --> 02:59:14.440 wait, let's, let's face it, especially in the earlier days of Windows on ARM. 02:59:15.320 --> 02:59:20.480 It was very much a very, it was a really similar set of trade offs as running on 02:59:20.480 --> 02:59:26.000 Linux, some of your software wouldn't work. You'd have to be willing to deal with like kind of hacky work around. 02:59:26.080 --> 02:59:29.480 There were benefits to battery life. Game changing at the time. 02:59:29.480 --> 02:59:34.720 That was before Intel had some really competitive mobile offerings in terms 02:59:34.720 --> 02:59:42.800 of battery life and AMD too, for that matter. But so it's, so it seems to me that it kind of makes sense that you'd have 02:59:42.800 --> 02:59:47.480 a kind of similar user archetype, someone who is willing to put up with 02:59:47.480 --> 02:59:54.040 some pain in order to try something new and, or get some benefit that is 02:59:54.040 --> 02:59:58.520 very meaningful to them and they publicly promised continued Linux 02:59:58.520 --> 03:00:01.000 upstreaming work back in 2024. 03:00:01.840 --> 03:00:07.000 And so I'm looking at this going like, guys, you're already niche. 03:00:07.560 --> 03:00:10.840 You already seem to be having a hard time making inroads. 03:00:11.560 --> 03:00:17.360 And I understand why the temptation would be to see that fact that your volumes 03:00:17.360 --> 03:00:22.840 are pretty low and, and kind of circle the wagons, you know, focus on, focus 03:00:22.840 --> 03:00:25.320 on the biggest piece of the pie, the biggest prize. 03:00:26.520 --> 03:00:30.960 Hear me out. Go completely the opposite direction. 03:00:31.000 --> 03:00:34.040 I think so. Be the king. I think so. 03:00:34.200 --> 03:00:37.440 Of how well you support open source platforms. 03:00:37.480 --> 03:00:42.720 You will get a really hardcore, very vocal, in a good way for you audience, if 03:00:42.720 --> 03:00:46.480 you are able to accomplish that. And they tend to be evangelists. 03:00:47.600 --> 03:00:52.720 They tend to be the kinds of people who, who will wait until something is, if 03:00:52.720 --> 03:00:57.160 we're being real, not really good enough for mainstream. And then they'll be like, boy, it's so good. 03:00:57.160 --> 03:01:02.840 It's great. You, everyone should try it. And it's way better to have those guys on your side right now than to just 03:01:04.240 --> 03:01:08.040 alienate them. And then also really not about that, which is not good for you. 03:01:08.160 --> 03:01:11.160 Not offer anything interesting to the mainstream normies. 03:01:11.160 --> 03:01:14.480 Right now you're, you're, you're doing neither. 03:01:14.680 --> 03:01:20.480 And, and I don't think this is going to work out great. Cause I could see, like I could see Qualcomm, like they have pretty 03:01:20.480 --> 03:01:24.080 compelling gaming performance, for instance, at least the, the new generation 03:01:24.080 --> 03:01:29.400 is, are they out or they rumored? I can't remember. Whatever that, but, but their GPUs are pretty solid. 03:01:29.720 --> 03:01:34.480 And I could see Qualcomm being a legitimate contender in things like handheld 03:01:34.880 --> 03:01:38.080 Windows gaming machines. Sure. Why not? Definitely. 03:01:38.200 --> 03:01:41.800 Why not? Honestly, with, with some of their mini PCs, they're showing off and stuff 03:01:41.840 --> 03:01:45.240 totally makes sense. But now you're going up against the Steam Deck. 03:01:45.360 --> 03:01:48.480 You know, if I'm, if I'm someone who's designing a piece of handheld 03:01:48.480 --> 03:01:53.320 hardware today, would I want to be able to support all the various operating 03:01:53.320 --> 03:01:57.520 systems that can run on it? Would I want to be able to run Steam OS? 03:01:57.520 --> 03:02:00.880 Would I want to be able to run Bazite? Would I want to be able to run? 03:02:01.160 --> 03:02:04.920 Uh, what, what's the, the Windows, um, game optimized mode called? 03:02:05.280 --> 03:02:09.120 We worked on with the Xbox team, whatever that, that thing. I'd want to be able to run all of them. 03:02:09.520 --> 03:02:12.560 I think shutting a door right now. 03:02:13.520 --> 03:02:17.760 Feels like completely failing to read the room. 03:02:18.000 --> 03:02:23.000 Yeah. Which makes sense. Because how can you read a room when the door into it is closed? 03:02:24.960 --> 03:02:28.520 My God. You don't have to call me that on camera. 03:02:28.720 --> 03:02:29.840 Oh, my. 03:02:36.560 --> 03:02:42.720 Gross. Uh, I love teasing it. 03:02:42.720 --> 03:02:46.400 Uh, all right. Next topic. Oh, this is great. 03:02:46.600 --> 03:02:49.720 EU consumer protections strike again. 03:02:50.320 --> 03:02:56.800 You want to do this one? Sure. Uh, this follows the unrelated news that Nintendo is cutting switch to production. 03:02:56.840 --> 03:02:58.960 Hey, I see you pressing that button, Dan. 03:02:59.880 --> 03:03:03.280 Oh, was it you? That was Dan. I don't even know what button. 03:03:03.360 --> 03:03:06.320 He matched the narcissist button like 25 times. 03:03:08.120 --> 03:03:12.560 Um, yeah, so Nintendo is cutting switch to production by 33% after a poor 03:03:12.560 --> 03:03:17.320 performance during the holiday season. Okay, that's bad news. Approximately a cut of two million units this year. 03:03:17.520 --> 03:03:21.920 Wow, crazy. Wait, did you give the good news yet? No one predicted this at all. 03:03:22.160 --> 03:03:25.000 Hmm, interesting. If only there was more than two games for it. 03:03:25.360 --> 03:03:29.120 Wow. Um, the good news for it. Yeah, it's in the title. 03:03:30.000 --> 03:03:33.480 Oh, I thought you read the whole title. No, I didn't. EU consumer protection strike again. 03:03:33.480 --> 03:03:36.560 I knew switch to revision with a removable battery. That's cool. 03:03:37.200 --> 03:03:40.320 To repeat it reportedly release there. 03:03:40.480 --> 03:03:44.320 Oh, in the EU. Yeah. And then maybe potentially the US and North America. 03:03:44.320 --> 03:03:53.440 Maybe, I mean, even if it didn't, I would imagine would import them. The gray market for switch twos with the removable battery would be like stonks. 03:03:53.480 --> 03:03:56.160 Big time. That'd be sick. 03:03:56.920 --> 03:04:00.120 And why not? Why shouldn't it have a removable battery? That sounds great. 03:04:00.560 --> 03:04:05.480 I mean, it's not, it's not a phone, right? Like I can, I can actually really understand it with a phone. 03:04:05.480 --> 03:04:08.360 It's tightly integrated device that literally has to fit in my pocket. 03:04:08.600 --> 03:04:14.200 I have to be able to take it into the swimming pool and take, you know, pictures of, you know, 03:04:14.200 --> 03:04:17.440 my kids learning to swim or whatever it is that I'm doing with my stupid phone. 03:04:17.960 --> 03:04:22.800 But something like a game console. I don't need it to be 0.3 millimeters thinner. 03:04:22.800 --> 03:04:25.680 I think it's probably fine for it to just have a removable battery. 03:04:25.960 --> 03:04:29.040 This is so cool. Yeah, I think people don't care at all. Freaking love it. 03:04:29.320 --> 03:04:32.600 I, the switch is boring. 03:04:33.200 --> 03:04:37.120 I think I'm going to sell mine. Oh, it's boring. 03:04:38.040 --> 03:04:42.080 I played some Mario Kart world with my son on the plane on a recent trip. 03:04:42.440 --> 03:04:45.480 It was good. We played for a bit. It's all right. I hate that game. 03:04:45.880 --> 03:04:50.320 It's, it's, um, it's really sweaty. 03:04:50.560 --> 03:04:53.800 The best Mario Kart experience. No way to win whatsoever. 03:04:54.200 --> 03:04:57.280 If you, there's no way to even be remotely competitive. 03:04:57.640 --> 03:05:03.800 If you don't sweat super hard, which I find pretty not fun. 03:05:03.800 --> 03:05:11.360 Mario Kart game, bro. Yeah. What are we doing? Like if you want to play, why is it like under map mechanics? 03:05:11.360 --> 03:05:17.760 If you want to play a settle Corsa, like play that, you know, like can Mario Kart 03:05:17.760 --> 03:05:22.560 be Mario Kart? And I understand that some people want to play Mario Kart super sweaty. 03:05:22.560 --> 03:05:28.600 And I get that. You can though, but you can play super sweaty without literally driving on a 03:05:28.600 --> 03:05:32.000 completely different track that the other players don't know are there because 03:05:32.000 --> 03:05:38.320 they didn't do hours of research. Yeah, like in Mario Kart eight and deluxe and whatever else, like the variance 03:05:38.320 --> 03:05:42.400 of it, you could absolutely be super sweaty, but the gap between you and 03:05:42.400 --> 03:05:46.440 everybody else is not going to be anywhere near as enormous as Mario Kart 03:05:46.440 --> 03:05:52.840 world. Um, and in my opinion, the mechanics are way more fun, um, decently, heavily 03:05:52.840 --> 03:05:57.640 incentivizing drifting more than world does pretty in line with eight. 03:05:57.960 --> 03:06:01.800 In my opinion is a great thing for the game because everyone can drift. 03:06:02.800 --> 03:06:07.400 It's very simple, but getting it so that like the lines are really perfect and 03:06:07.400 --> 03:06:12.120 stuff is a skill gap and it's really hard and it's rewarding, but it's not 03:06:12.120 --> 03:06:18.480 like game breakingly rewarding. Yeah, like I just, like there was one that I was in first and my son was in 03:06:18.480 --> 03:06:23.880 like sixth and he just like took a shortcut I didn't know about and one. 03:06:24.120 --> 03:06:28.960 And it's like, like I'm not, I'm not like mad about it because it's just 03:06:29.040 --> 03:06:34.200 Mario Kart. Yeah. But that's also the, that's also the other thing though is like, it's just 03:06:34.200 --> 03:06:39.560 Mario Kart. Why do we need to do that? Why do we need to have? There's always been shortcuts to a certain degree, but they were small. 03:06:39.600 --> 03:06:45.280 They're usually very small. They were small and, and maybe you could gain a position and they could be 03:06:45.280 --> 03:06:50.120 very difficult to execute often in a really brutal way. 03:06:50.160 --> 03:06:53.360 Yes. Where you would only really take it if you kind of needed to. Yeah. 03:06:53.480 --> 03:06:58.800 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you'd honestly be better off with a mushroom in a lot of 03:06:58.800 --> 03:07:02.720 cases or the shortcuts are, are, are kind of everywhere. 03:07:02.840 --> 03:07:06.000 And you can just, you know, like blast across a corner with a mushroom instead 03:07:06.000 --> 03:07:09.200 of, you know, going through the, like going over grass or whatever obvious. 03:07:09.280 --> 03:07:13.200 Yeah. Maybe you, maybe you do it wrong on like the first lap, but then you know from 03:07:13.200 --> 03:07:18.280 then on stuff where the track just like splits into two and half of the AIs are 03:07:18.280 --> 03:07:23.400 going left and half of them are going right. And you just like don't know which way you're supposed to go. 03:07:23.400 --> 03:07:27.800 It's just that's not a race anymore. That's maze path finding. 03:07:27.840 --> 03:07:31.080 And I understand a lot of people are having a lot of fun with Mario Kart 03:07:31.080 --> 03:07:35.320 world, but if the switch sales or anything to go by, a lot of people also 03:07:35.360 --> 03:07:40.560 just like kind of aren't. Yeah. Um, Benanzas supposed to be really good. 03:07:40.560 --> 03:07:41.120 I haven't played it. 03:07:43.840 --> 03:07:46.360 I feel like I'll probably like play that and then sell it. 03:07:47.000 --> 03:07:51.920 Yeah. I could see that. I could see that. I mean, Emma's super, super into Donkey Kong. 03:07:51.960 --> 03:07:56.760 So I bought Benanzas for like her to play on the switch and then the house. 03:07:57.520 --> 03:08:01.000 So neither of us have played it, but we'll probably play through that. 03:08:01.040 --> 03:08:05.160 And then yeah, there's nothing else pulling me towards the switch too. 03:08:05.600 --> 03:08:08.400 That feels worth it for the device cost. 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Slack is a little bit less expensive than I thought. 03:11:09.160 --> 03:11:12.160 I don't want a little bit less expensive. We're free. 03:11:12.160 --> 03:11:17.160 Well, no, I don't want free either. I mean, there are potentially free options we've been looking into. 03:11:17.160 --> 03:11:20.160 Oh, really? Yeah. There's definitely your pay for. 03:11:20.160 --> 03:11:24.160 There is. Yeah. And we have a really weird team structure. 03:11:24.160 --> 03:11:27.160 Self-host Mattermost. Mattermost is being getting really weird. You should look into that. 03:11:27.160 --> 03:11:31.160 We have such a weird team structure. Like for a piece of software. 03:11:31.160 --> 03:11:35.160 For a 100 person company, we do so much different stuff. 03:11:35.160 --> 03:11:41.160 It's crazy. Like there are companies our size whose entire thing is they just like make drill bits. 03:11:41.160 --> 03:11:46.160 And everyone just is moving in one direction, like making drill bits. 03:11:46.160 --> 03:11:55.160 Like I, we have a peril and we have like like engineered goods and we have a video platform 03:11:55.160 --> 03:12:03.160 and we have flip in an events business and production company and just procurement is 03:12:03.160 --> 03:12:05.160 makes us so weird. 03:12:06.160 --> 03:12:11.160 Like none of the film production software includes an entire procurement chain. 03:12:11.160 --> 03:12:15.160 Right. Because why would you have to procure something in order to make your video? 03:12:15.160 --> 03:12:19.160 Well, because for us, unless we have the thing, we can't make a video about it. 03:12:19.160 --> 03:12:25.160 And we have to have sometimes 40 things for one video of the, you know. 03:12:25.160 --> 03:12:28.160 Like an AMD ultimate tech upgrade. Yeah, even more. 03:12:28.160 --> 03:12:34.160 And then we release like hundreds of videos a quarter, which also no one does. 03:12:34.160 --> 03:12:40.160 Yeah. So ironically teams is like actually set up really well for us because we have all of 03:12:40.160 --> 03:12:43.160 the different channels and things. Yeah. 03:12:43.160 --> 03:12:46.160 You can do that in lots of platforms. Yeah. 03:12:46.160 --> 03:12:49.160 But on Slack, we can't dictate the order. Yeah. 03:12:49.160 --> 03:12:53.160 But you can give people packages and stuff like that. Like there's ways to make it better. 03:12:53.160 --> 03:12:57.160 I do agree that that sucks. You can't build someone's hierarchy for them. 03:12:57.160 --> 03:13:00.160 That's also like, do we need that? 03:13:00.160 --> 03:13:03.160 Yeah. Can we just figure out something else? 03:13:03.160 --> 03:13:06.160 To save $800 billion. 03:13:06.160 --> 03:13:10.160 Well, it wouldn't save money if we went to Slack compared to Teams. 03:13:10.160 --> 03:13:13.160 Oh, no. I mean, like something self-hosted or like one of the other ones. 03:13:13.160 --> 03:13:21.160 If Discord had better user management, we could use Discord, but it's like kind of meh. 03:13:21.160 --> 03:13:24.160 Kind of meh. 03:13:24.160 --> 03:13:29.160 Sorry. 03:13:29.160 --> 03:13:34.160 A particular colleague just sent a video of one of their kids that their kid asked them 03:13:34.160 --> 03:13:39.160 to send to me and it's of them driving around and you know those like really rugged cardboard 03:13:39.160 --> 03:13:42.160 boxes that you can get for free at Costco? Yeah. 03:13:42.160 --> 03:13:45.660 They're like sitting in it like a car and they've like made a little dashboard and they're 03:13:45.660 --> 03:13:51.160 like dry scooting around on the floor and he's like kicking the thing so that it like 03:13:51.160 --> 03:13:57.160 goes for a little bit. And I was just like, why do we buy them expensive toys? 03:13:58.160 --> 03:14:03.160 It's great. I love to see kids using imagination, man. 03:14:03.160 --> 03:14:11.160 It's refreshing. My eldest daughter is getting into this, I forget what it's called, but it's this animation 03:14:11.160 --> 03:14:19.160 platform on the iPad that you draw every frame and she made this little, she's made a couple 03:14:19.160 --> 03:14:26.160 little like short things that one of them is cats catching mice and then at the end of 03:14:26.160 --> 03:14:30.160 her kind of punch line is she has a shot of just like a pile of dead rats and mice 03:14:30.160 --> 03:14:34.160 and the mice go on to, I don't know, she's an interesting child. 03:14:34.160 --> 03:14:40.160 I mean every child's an interesting child, she's really into cats and then that's why 03:14:40.160 --> 03:14:45.160 she chose cat as her stage name. Like she's just like very into cats. 03:14:45.160 --> 03:14:48.160 We were in Korea recently, we went all the way around the world and nobody she wanted 03:14:48.160 --> 03:14:53.160 to do, she wants to go to a cat cafe. Literally, we have cat at home. 03:14:53.160 --> 03:14:57.160 We have many cat at home. 03:14:57.160 --> 03:15:03.160 Anyway, she made another one that's like this dragon thing that goes and it does a thing 03:15:03.160 --> 03:15:09.160 and I don't know. It's pretty cool and as far as I'm concerned, we have car votes in our screen time rules 03:15:09.160 --> 03:15:13.160 for if you are making something. 03:15:13.160 --> 03:15:17.160 Sure. So if you are designing something for 3D printing, that doesn't count. 03:15:17.160 --> 03:15:23.160 If you are doing an animation or you're like making a stop motion thing with your phone 03:15:23.160 --> 03:15:26.160 or whatever, that doesn't count. And it's really cool. 03:15:26.160 --> 03:15:33.160 Google Family Link actually has some wonderful tools for carving out particular apps, particular 03:15:33.160 --> 03:15:39.160 times so that you can say, okay, yeah, you get like 45 minutes of general use. 03:15:39.160 --> 03:15:45.160 This particular app is limited to like 15 minutes and these apps you can use anytime you want 03:15:45.160 --> 03:15:48.160 as much as you want. Really awesome. 03:15:48.160 --> 03:15:53.160 So like something like I have Kindle Unlimited so they're allowed to read as much as they 03:15:53.160 --> 03:15:58.160 want on the Kindle. I don't care. I don't care if they're looking at a screen or at a paper page. 03:15:58.160 --> 03:16:01.160 At that age, all I care about is their reading. 03:16:01.160 --> 03:16:04.160 So you can fine tune that. It's pretty cool. 03:16:04.160 --> 03:16:07.160 Yeah, yeah. 03:16:07.160 --> 03:16:09.160 Graphene OS. Yeah. 03:16:10.160 --> 03:16:16.160 Has flatly refused to comply with emerging laws requiring operating systems to collect 03:16:16.160 --> 03:16:22.160 age data at setup. Base. They have said they will never require personal information, ID or an account. 03:16:22.160 --> 03:16:27.160 Base. In their Twitter statement, they said, if Graphene OS devices can't be sold in a region 03:16:27.160 --> 03:16:30.160 due to their regulations, so be it. 03:16:30.160 --> 03:16:35.160 Base. The statement was prompted by Brazil's digital ECA law taking effect March 17th with carries 03:16:35.160 --> 03:16:39.160 fines of up to $9.5 million per violation. 03:16:39.160 --> 03:16:43.160 California's similar law takes effect January 2027. 03:16:43.160 --> 03:16:48.160 This stance creates a real problem for Graphene OS's new Motorola partnership, which was announced 03:16:48.160 --> 03:16:54.160 at Mobile World Congress. A hardware vendor selling devices globally would have to comply with local laws in every 03:16:54.160 --> 03:16:58.160 market it ships to, meaning that Motorola may have to restrict sales of Graphene OS phones 03:16:58.160 --> 03:17:02.160 geographically. Linus comment. 03:17:02.160 --> 03:17:04.160 I hadn't seen that until now. 03:17:06.160 --> 03:17:11.160 Base. I genuinely didn't read that. 03:17:11.160 --> 03:17:15.160 I don't think we need to get further into like, what are these laws? 03:17:15.160 --> 03:17:18.160 Are they supposedly about protecting kids? What are they actually for? 03:17:18.160 --> 03:17:21.160 Collecting data. Let's move on to something that's more exciting. 03:17:21.160 --> 03:17:24.160 Maybe you'll have to go on to a road trip outside of California to buy your phone. 03:17:24.160 --> 03:17:30.160 Like Samsung. Saying that airdrop support is enabled by default after all on Galaxy phones. 03:17:30.160 --> 03:17:35.160 They're rolling it out to Galaxy S26 devices via a 1 UI 8.5 update, letting users share files 03:17:35.160 --> 03:17:38.160 directly with iPhones, iPads, and Macs through QuickShare. 03:17:38.160 --> 03:17:44.160 No third-party apps needed. The feature is enabled by default through Samsung's, though Samsung's own promotional 03:17:44.160 --> 03:17:49.160 video initially showed it as off, causing some confusion before the company clarified. 03:17:49.160 --> 03:17:52.160 Google figured out how to make this work without Apple's involvement when it launched on Pixel 03:17:52.160 --> 03:17:56.160 10 last year, and Samsung is now the second Android OEM to get it, with no word yet on 03:17:56.160 --> 03:18:00.160 when other Galaxy devices will follow. 03:18:00.160 --> 03:18:05.160 Our discussion question is now that airdrop works both ways, and green message bubbles 03:18:05.160 --> 03:18:10.160 are no longer the social albatross that they once were. 03:18:10.160 --> 03:18:15.160 Are there any major friction points that will remain? 03:18:15.160 --> 03:18:18.160 I'd say FaceTime would be a big one. Status. 03:18:18.160 --> 03:18:22.160 Status? Yeah. I think people still think you're weird. 03:18:22.160 --> 03:18:28.160 That's so funky, because I don't want this to come across the wrong way, because I don't 03:18:28.160 --> 03:18:33.160 care, but my Android costs more than your iPhone. 03:18:33.160 --> 03:18:36.160 Why do you think your iPhone is a status symbol? I don't know. 03:18:36.160 --> 03:18:39.160 Okay. I'm just trying to... I don't get it. 03:18:39.160 --> 03:18:43.160 I'm just trying to understand it. I have an old crappy phone at this point. 03:18:43.160 --> 03:18:46.160 I don't care. I never cared. 03:18:46.160 --> 03:18:50.160 All right. I think it's such a silly thing. 03:18:50.160 --> 03:18:55.160 I mean, I think caring about like, oh, they have an old car. 03:18:55.160 --> 03:19:00.160 Therefore, poor, therefore bad is stupid, let alone phones. 03:19:00.160 --> 03:19:03.160 I think the whole thing is just dumb. 03:19:03.160 --> 03:19:06.160 I'm the wrong person to consult on this. 03:19:06.160 --> 03:19:10.160 I will never understand. 03:19:10.160 --> 03:19:15.160 You didn't waste your money on some device that's just going to basically be useless 03:19:15.160 --> 03:19:18.160 in three to five years? Okay. 03:19:18.160 --> 03:19:25.160 Cool. My car is 60 this year, says gas racing and Floatplane chat. 03:19:25.160 --> 03:19:28.160 Sick. That's pretty cool. Sick. 03:19:28.160 --> 03:19:31.160 There's definitely a... There's definitely a... You know, this... 03:19:31.160 --> 03:19:35.160 Yeah. They become expensive again after they get out. 03:19:35.160 --> 03:19:38.160 Yeah. What? Yeah. 03:19:38.160 --> 03:19:44.160 No one in Floatplane chat gets it or cares. 03:19:44.160 --> 03:19:48.160 Yeah. Which, I mean, makes sense. 03:19:48.160 --> 03:19:53.160 But iPhone users. Plada says most people I know with nicer cars are broke AF. 03:19:53.160 --> 03:19:56.160 Yeah, this is kind of my point. Yeah. 03:19:56.160 --> 03:20:02.160 I got to say, I do find like the car situation a little confusing. 03:20:02.160 --> 03:20:06.160 Like, I... 03:20:06.160 --> 03:20:12.160 People in general seem to spend a lot more of their income on their car than I ever have. 03:20:12.160 --> 03:20:15.160 It's so weird. I don't get it at all. 03:20:15.160 --> 03:20:18.160 You know how long I drove the Super Civic. Oh, yeah. 03:20:18.160 --> 03:20:21.160 And then you know how long I drove the Volt. Yeah. 03:20:21.160 --> 03:20:26.160 You literally know the finances of the company. 03:20:26.160 --> 03:20:29.160 I've driven all of your cars. Really? 03:20:29.160 --> 03:20:33.160 I never put that together until you just listed it that out. 03:20:33.160 --> 03:20:36.160 But did you own a car before the Super Civic? You could hand me down? 03:20:36.160 --> 03:20:39.160 I did. Yeah, I had a Volkswagen Jetta. Never mind. 03:20:39.160 --> 03:20:42.160 Yeah, you never drove that one. Because you had a... You also had a Golf. 03:20:42.160 --> 03:20:45.160 Yeah, yeah, that was Yvonne's before I brought the Minivan. Yeah. 03:20:45.160 --> 03:20:48.160 Have you ever driven our Minivan? Okay, no. Okay, he missed the Minivan. 03:20:48.160 --> 03:20:51.160 I did drive the Golf. I think you're still over 50%. Yeah. 03:20:51.160 --> 03:20:54.160 But you've never ridden my bike. No. At least not once. 03:20:54.160 --> 03:20:57.160 I'll let you ride big if you want, though. The weight balance of that would be kind of crazy. 03:20:57.160 --> 03:21:04.160 That would be kind of crazy because you're up higher too. Yeah, I did ride on the back of a moped with Dennis and Taipei. 03:21:04.160 --> 03:21:07.160 Yeah, that was scary. That was a little nuts. That was pretty scary. 03:21:07.160 --> 03:21:10.160 That was a little wild. 03:21:10.160 --> 03:21:13.160 So... Luke's lived in all of Linus's houses too? 03:21:13.160 --> 03:21:16.160 Oh, yeah, that. No. No, not in the current one. 03:21:16.160 --> 03:21:20.160 Yeah. Although I did offer while you had your issues recently to let you come live with us. 03:21:20.160 --> 03:21:25.160 And he refused. He wouldn't. He didn't want that Pokemon. 03:21:25.160 --> 03:21:28.160 I stayed at my parents. 03:21:28.160 --> 03:21:35.160 So I'd be down here. You'd be up here. 03:21:35.160 --> 03:21:41.160 I mean, I'd give it a shot. Even with Yvonne or my son when he was quite a bit younger, I think he was probably about 03:21:41.160 --> 03:21:45.160 10 when I was riding with him on the back. 03:21:45.160 --> 03:21:50.160 Way a lot less than you. I don't know if I could balance that bike with you on it. 03:21:50.160 --> 03:21:56.660 And you'd be up so high and your legs are not really that long that you would not be 03:21:56.660 --> 03:22:03.660 able to put your foot down until we were quite horizontal. 03:22:03.660 --> 03:22:07.160 And also this is really hot if it was operating. 03:22:07.160 --> 03:22:10.160 So that could be really dangerous. Is there foot placements? 03:22:10.160 --> 03:22:15.160 Yeah. The pegs are. It's a little too pixely, but yeah, I can imagine. 03:22:15.160 --> 03:22:19.160 Yeah. Yeah. So you put these down and then you're pegging. 03:22:19.160 --> 03:22:23.160 It would look hilarious. It would look so ridiculous. 03:22:23.160 --> 03:22:27.160 You would look like you'd look like Donkey Kong and Mario Kart on my bike, like sitting 03:22:27.160 --> 03:22:30.160 on the back of it like that. Ridiculous. 03:22:30.160 --> 03:22:41.160 Yeah. Next topic. 03:22:41.160 --> 03:22:49.160 TCL has been banned from calling some of its TVs QLED due to a lack of dots. 03:22:49.160 --> 03:22:55.160 That is to say a lack of cadmium and indium in the optical sheets for their TVs. 03:22:55.160 --> 03:22:58.160 They also found this, so this is a Munich court. 03:22:58.160 --> 03:23:02.160 They also found that this meant the TVs did not have the color performance that is normally 03:23:02.160 --> 03:23:05.160 associated with quantum dot or QLED technology. 03:23:05.160 --> 03:23:10.160 This ruling comes as a result of a lawsuit filed by Samsung where they commissioned testing 03:23:10.160 --> 03:23:16.160 of TCL displays and accused them of misleading consumers in their marketing. 03:23:16.160 --> 03:23:20.160 TCL and Hisense are also facing class action lawsuits in the U.S. over the marketing of 03:23:20.160 --> 03:23:23.160 QLED TVs. 03:23:24.160 --> 03:23:27.160 I actually support Samsung's efforts here. 03:23:27.160 --> 03:23:35.160 It's kind of based. I had a recent experience with a TV manufacturer where they talked to me and explained and 03:23:35.160 --> 03:23:41.160 showed some of the work that they do not to reverse engineer their competitors' products, 03:23:41.160 --> 03:23:44.160 but to evaluate their competitors' products. 03:23:44.160 --> 03:23:48.160 So the kinds of breakdowns that they'll do on it to really understand the performance 03:23:48.160 --> 03:23:52.160 of their competitors' products so they know what they're up against. 03:23:52.160 --> 03:23:59.160 We'll have a video on this pretty soon, but there were some shocking revelations that 03:23:59.160 --> 03:24:05.160 unless you have the engineering expertise to literally disassemble the TV and watch it 03:24:05.160 --> 03:24:11.160 operate and get scopes on it and really know what it's doing, you would never know. 03:24:11.160 --> 03:24:15.160 There's much like you see in phone benchmarking or much like we've seen over the years in 03:24:15.160 --> 03:24:21.160 phone benchmarking. There's a lot of cheating that can be done when TVs are detecting particular test patterns 03:24:21.160 --> 03:24:30.160 or scenes and it's getting harder and harder to not only stop that cheating but even notice 03:24:30.160 --> 03:24:36.160 it because it's a feature, not a bug, that every TV these days has an AI processor in 03:24:36.160 --> 03:24:39.160 it that is analyzing everything on the screen. 03:24:39.160 --> 03:24:44.160 So they really do know everything they're displaying and they can tune the image and 03:24:44.160 --> 03:24:47.160 they can tune the behavior of the TV accordingly. 03:24:47.160 --> 03:24:51.160 Samsung actually has gotten caught doing things like that, like boosting their brightness 03:24:51.160 --> 03:24:55.160 during test patterns. If I recall correctly, that was on what the S95B. 03:24:55.160 --> 03:25:04.160 Let me know in chat if anyone remembers. I'm pretty sure that was the thing, but I don't want to say that and be wrong. 03:25:04.160 --> 03:25:09.160 Come on. Anyone? Was that Samsung? 03:25:09.160 --> 03:25:14.160 We could talk about this cute little 14-year-old ThinkPad. 03:25:14.160 --> 03:25:19.160 This was fun that got upgraded for 25 bucks. 03:25:19.160 --> 03:25:22.160 No one. No one. Still no one. 03:25:22.160 --> 03:25:26.800 Yeah, a YouTuber named Onion Boots set out to make a near-perfect ThinkPad since the 03:25:26.800 --> 03:25:33.160 peeling energy star sticker was just enough to justify it never becoming a display piece. 03:25:33.160 --> 03:25:43.160 The near-perfect ThinkPads general specs are a third gen Intel Core i5-2230M or an i7-3520M. 03:25:44.160 --> 03:25:47.160 Isn't this a specific model? I don't know. Okay. 03:25:47.160 --> 03:25:53.160 16GB of DDR3 and a 12.5-inch LED backlit TN panel at 1366x768. 03:25:53.160 --> 03:25:56.160 Ooh, that display is a yikes. The display is kind of the biggest problem here. 03:25:56.160 --> 03:26:05.160 It's a decent amount of memory, actually. Onion Boots claims that it's not a full HD mod, but rather a simple swap to an IPS LG panel. 03:26:05.160 --> 03:26:11.160 It's from the same year and has the same resolution, a little unfortunate, but the jump from TN to 03:26:11.160 --> 03:26:15.160 IPS is pretty sweet. Onion Boots simply didn't feel comfortable with soldering. 03:26:15.160 --> 03:26:18.160 Yeah. It's only 25 bucks. Anyway, I just thought it was cool. 03:26:18.160 --> 03:26:21.160 Hey, don't forget. That's actually pretty legit. Older laptops. 03:26:21.160 --> 03:26:24.660 Sometimes you can improve your display, throw an SSD in it. 03:26:24.660 --> 03:26:28.160 They can be very usable, especially with something like, I don't know, Linux Mint. 03:26:28.160 --> 03:26:32.160 My discussion question here, though, is actually kind of unrelated. 03:26:32.160 --> 03:26:35.160 Can we stop doing this? 03:26:35.160 --> 03:26:40.160 Tom's hardware. Oh, yeah. 03:26:40.160 --> 03:26:44.160 Bro has a name. Bro has a channel name. 03:26:44.160 --> 03:26:47.160 Okay. Yeah. It's here. 03:26:47.160 --> 03:26:50.160 And you do eventually get into it. 03:26:50.160 --> 03:26:53.160 One intrepid YouTuber. Uh-huh. 03:26:53.160 --> 03:26:58.160 Uh-huh. Okay. Where do we get the YouTuber Onion Boots? 03:26:58.160 --> 03:27:02.160 How far below the fold are we here? 03:27:02.160 --> 03:27:08.160 How would you like it? If instead of saying the article that brought this to my attention was Tom's hardware, I 03:27:08.160 --> 03:27:15.160 said, traditional written media site reports that a YouTuber has upgraded their 14-year-old 03:27:15.160 --> 03:27:20.160 ThinkPad. Can we not? We all have names. 03:27:20.160 --> 03:27:24.160 Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Oh, I've watched Onion Boots before. 03:27:24.160 --> 03:27:28.160 I was going to say, I feel like I recognize this channel, but yeah, there's one video 03:27:28.160 --> 03:27:34.160 that went freaking crazy. But maybe it would be pretty good for their channel if everyone who reported on the cool 03:27:34.160 --> 03:27:38.160 work that they're doing maybe named them in the headline. 03:27:38.160 --> 03:27:41.160 That would be pretty cool. It is a super cool video though. 03:27:41.160 --> 03:27:46.160 If you think the laptop video is neat but isn't going to draw you in, Onion Boots has a video 03:27:46.160 --> 03:27:49.160 called a web revival. The internet didn't die. 03:27:49.160 --> 03:27:53.160 You're just not on it. And this video is awesome. It's really cool. 03:27:53.160 --> 03:28:02.160 So maybe check it out. It talks about websites like this that is his that are up right now, which feel like older 03:28:02.160 --> 03:28:07.160 website. It talks about how a lot of these older style websites link to each other. 03:28:07.160 --> 03:28:12.160 And it's like a cool old surfing the web style feeling that you can find on the internet 03:28:12.160 --> 03:28:15.160 if you go to these different sites. So check that video. 03:28:15.160 --> 03:28:19.160 It's cool. He references a bunch of different ones that you could go check out. 03:28:19.160 --> 03:28:22.160 Yeah, it's actually just genuinely awesome video. 03:28:22.160 --> 03:28:25.160 Can you play Mind Sweeper in the background of that site? 03:28:25.160 --> 03:28:28.160 Is that what I'm looking at here? 03:28:28.160 --> 03:28:33.160 Hold on. Hold on a minute here. 03:28:33.160 --> 03:28:39.160 Are you kidding me right now? So I think it's not like I'm doing it as well. 03:28:39.160 --> 03:28:42.160 And I'm clearly not playing like with you. So it's it's local. 03:28:42.160 --> 03:28:45.160 But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 03:28:45.160 --> 03:28:48.160 I mean, that's Mind Sweeper. That's that's a that's a Mind Sweeper. 03:28:48.160 --> 03:28:56.160 If I've ever seen one. 03:28:56.160 --> 03:29:02.160 Something I have always name your egg. 03:29:02.160 --> 03:29:08.160 Egg hatching in 21 seconds. This feels very neo pets. 03:29:08.160 --> 03:29:14.160 Yeah, there's a bunch of very, very cool, very cool video. 03:29:14.160 --> 03:29:20.160 And it links to other people's sites. 03:29:20.160 --> 03:29:23.160 Oh, whoops. Oh crap. I clicked the wrong side of my trackpad. 03:29:23.160 --> 03:29:29.160 Don't play mine. Don't play Mind Sweeper with a trackpad. 03:29:29.160 --> 03:29:32.160 Yeah. Anyways. Cool. 03:29:32.160 --> 03:29:36.160 Valve has finally detailed steam machines verified program at 03:29:36.160 --> 03:29:40.160 GDC 2026. Valve confirms that games need to set stable 1080p 30 FPS in 03:29:40.160 --> 03:29:43.160 order to earn the steam machine verified badge. 03:29:43.160 --> 03:29:47.160 So the same performance bar as steam deck verified just at a 03:29:47.160 --> 03:29:52.160 higher resolution. Any game that is already deck verified automatically qualifies 03:29:52.160 --> 03:29:55.160 and the steam machine is confirmed to have six times the 03:29:55.160 --> 03:29:59.160 performance of the deck. This 30 FPS floor is just the minimum for the badge. 03:29:59.160 --> 03:30:03.160 Valve has previously said that most steam titles can hit 4K 60 03:30:03.160 --> 03:30:09.160 FPS on the hardware as long as you enable FSR upscaling. 03:30:09.160 --> 03:30:12.160 Our discussion question. Oh, it's an interesting one actually. 03:30:12.160 --> 03:30:15.160 Sony and Microsoft tell you exactly what their consoles can do 03:30:15.160 --> 03:30:20.160 at launch. I mean, sort of. Many games do have a performance or quality toggle now, but 03:30:20.160 --> 03:30:24.160 that our discussion question goes on to ask is Valves at 03:30:24.160 --> 03:30:28.160 depends on the game approach good enough for people who want 03:30:28.160 --> 03:30:31.160 the simplicity of just plugging something into their TV and 03:30:31.160 --> 03:30:35.160 pressing play. So don't know that Sony and Microsoft's ones are always 03:30:35.160 --> 03:30:40.160 necessarily fully true. No, but they definitely simplified the message. 03:30:40.160 --> 03:30:43.160 Yeah. And you mostly understand what you're getting. 03:30:43.160 --> 03:30:46.160 I mean, Sony had that whole debacle where they had 8K L over 03:30:46.160 --> 03:30:49.160 the packaging for the PS5 and then just kind of quietly removed 03:30:49.160 --> 03:30:52.160 it. 03:30:52.160 --> 03:30:57.160 It seems like it wasn't a problem. I understand the argument and I think it's valid. 03:30:57.160 --> 03:31:01.160 I think the audience for steam stuff is a little bit different. 03:31:01.160 --> 03:31:05.160 I think so too. I also think that the way that they're positioning this by 03:31:05.160 --> 03:31:08.160 saying like pretty much everything's going to be fine. 03:31:08.160 --> 03:31:12.160 I think we'll kind of whisk that away a little bit and I suspect 03:31:12.160 --> 03:31:15.160 there'll be an understanding that like at launch and Xbox is 03:31:15.160 --> 03:31:19.160 going to play a certain amount of games and at launch the steam 03:31:19.160 --> 03:31:24.160 machine is going to play. Damn, you're freaking everything and you're going to have to 03:31:24.160 --> 03:31:30.160 understand that there's going to be some scale there. I'm going to come out and say most people don't care. 03:31:30.160 --> 03:31:34.160 Yeah. And like, but really actually don't care. 03:31:34.160 --> 03:31:39.160 And the people who do probably know better than to buy a steam 03:31:39.160 --> 03:31:43.160 machine and expect to run at, you know, 4K 120 FPS. 03:31:43.160 --> 03:31:47.160 Okay. So you can run stars and on Linux. 03:31:47.160 --> 03:31:51.160 So if you can play games like that, I mean, according to AI, 03:31:51.160 --> 03:31:54.160 you did the thing. I found myself doing this. 03:31:54.160 --> 03:31:57.160 I saw this. Okay. All right. 03:31:57.160 --> 03:32:00.160 Okay. Good. But checking. 03:32:00.160 --> 03:32:03.160 Yeah. Sometimes I do the thing, Luke. I try to resist. 03:32:03.160 --> 03:32:08.160 I try to resist too. I saw that. I saw that Reddit thread where it says I run stars is it on 03:32:08.160 --> 03:32:11.160 my Linux box. I use Arch by the way. I have no issues whatsoever. 03:32:11.160 --> 03:32:15.160 You can see the, I still didn't click through, but I saw this. 03:32:15.160 --> 03:32:19.160 Yep. But I, yeah, I try to resist. Hey, Reddit wants your click. 03:32:19.160 --> 03:32:24.160 Make sure to support Reddit. I did click on it. Small up and coming platforms like Reddit need your help. 03:32:24.160 --> 03:32:28.160 I was going to say, yeah, but it's like, you know, if you're 03:32:28.160 --> 03:32:32.160 able to run games like that, like, damn, how are they supposed to 03:32:32.160 --> 03:32:39.160 verify stuff? Yeah. What does run stars doesn't mean? 03:32:40.160 --> 03:32:44.160 Whatever. I think their explanation is pretty good. I totally understand the discussion question. 03:32:44.160 --> 03:32:50.160 I think it's a fair thing to point out. It isn't as clear and easy as the console ones, but I kind of 03:32:50.160 --> 03:32:55.160 prefer this because it feels a lot more legit. And I hope that people read it properly. 03:32:55.160 --> 03:32:58.160 Yeah. Our last big topic here. 03:32:58.160 --> 03:33:02.160 Anthropics Claude can now, I'm no, I'm sticking with my 03:33:02.160 --> 03:33:06.160 pronunciation cloud. Oh, I see. Can now control your computer. 03:33:06.160 --> 03:33:09.160 Anthropic has launched a research preview of computer use for 03:33:09.160 --> 03:33:14.160 cloud pro and max subscribers on macOS, letting cloud open apps, 03:33:14.160 --> 03:33:17.160 navigate browsers, fill spreadsheets and handle multi-step 03:33:17.160 --> 03:33:21.160 tasks on your computer. It pairs with dispatch, a new mobile tool that lets you assign 03:33:21.160 --> 03:33:24.160 tasks to cloud from your phone and have it execute them on 03:33:24.160 --> 03:33:29.160 your desktop. Anthropic warns the features early can still make mistakes 03:33:29.160 --> 03:33:33.160 and they advise against giving it access to sensitive data for 03:33:33.160 --> 03:33:38.160 now. Cloud will always ask permission before accessing new apps. 03:33:38.160 --> 03:33:42.160 Linus comment, this is, yeah, when I posted the news and the 03:33:42.160 --> 03:33:46.160 news feed, what could go wrong? 03:33:46.160 --> 03:33:54.160 Even Microsoft has been restrained enough to not just let 03:33:54.160 --> 03:34:00.160 co-pilot do stuff on your computer, which I've talked about. 03:34:00.160 --> 03:34:04.160 Defeats the purpose of even having an AI assistant on my 03:34:04.160 --> 03:34:08.160 computer. If it can't do anything, then what's the point of it? 03:34:08.160 --> 03:34:13.160 But also, that's totally fine. Well, it looks like Anthropic has kind of gone, oh yeah, what is 03:34:13.160 --> 03:34:16.160 the point of an AI assistant on your computer if it can't just 03:34:16.160 --> 03:34:19.160 completely do stuff for you? 03:34:19.160 --> 03:34:29.160 And now we get this. This was the wrong answer, but I guess we have it now. 03:34:30.160 --> 03:34:34.160 Now what? 03:34:34.160 --> 03:34:37.160 So I was just reading a very confusing comment. 03:34:37.160 --> 03:34:40.160 I don't know, there's been multiple things have been able to do 03:34:40.160 --> 03:34:45.160 this already. I think by adding it to Cloud Pro and Macs, you're bringing it 03:34:45.160 --> 03:34:50.160 to more mainstream people, which is going to be freaking spicy. 03:34:50.160 --> 03:34:53.160 I do think it's really interesting that the thing that 03:34:53.160 --> 03:34:56.160 Microsoft was pushing is going to happen on Mac from someone 03:34:56.160 --> 03:35:00.160 else before it will happen on Windows with co-pilot. 03:35:00.160 --> 03:35:03.160 Yeah, it's pretty funny. 03:35:03.160 --> 03:35:07.160 Just Windows doing, Microsoft doing current era Microsoft 03:35:07.160 --> 03:35:10.160 things, I guess. 03:35:10.160 --> 03:35:15.160 Yeah, interesting. Kids Lane in the Floor Plane Chat says, my AI assistant cannot 03:35:15.160 --> 03:35:22.160 stop ordering candles. Help. I had somebody invite their AI assistant to a Discord call 03:35:22.160 --> 03:35:25.160 that we were in the other day and prompted it with voice in 03:35:25.160 --> 03:35:28.160 the Discord call and then told it to leave the Discord call 03:35:28.160 --> 03:35:31.160 and it disconnected. 03:35:31.160 --> 03:35:37.160 It's a weird world. People living on the edge are doing some crazy stuff right now. 03:35:37.160 --> 03:35:45.160 Yeah, it's interesting. I was looking into, I really want to have a local setup going. 03:35:45.160 --> 03:35:48.160 And I was looking into building one and just RAM. 03:35:48.160 --> 03:35:51.160 Holy God. 03:35:51.160 --> 03:35:53.160 You can borrow mine. 03:35:54.160 --> 03:35:58.160 It's like... If he wants the experience of setting it up, he doesn't 03:35:58.160 --> 03:36:01.160 actually want to use it. 03:36:01.160 --> 03:36:05.160 I feel called out as well. 03:36:05.160 --> 03:36:08.160 That's the whole thing. That's like my whole life. 03:36:08.160 --> 03:36:11.160 That's why we get each other. 03:36:11.160 --> 03:36:14.160 Because I'm the kind of person who loves building gaming PCs 03:36:14.160 --> 03:36:17.160 but doesn't actually game that much. You know? 03:36:17.160 --> 03:36:21.160 All right. I see you. I didn't know Luke felt like that too. 03:36:21.160 --> 03:36:25.160 I do want to use it but I'm not going to end up using it as much. 03:36:25.160 --> 03:36:28.160 You're not going to use it. I'm not going to use it enough to justify it. 03:36:28.160 --> 03:36:31.160 Hey, have you tried your big screen beyond yet? 03:36:31.160 --> 03:36:37.160 No. Yeah, have you? But I looked into setting it up because the room that... 03:36:37.160 --> 03:36:40.160 Okay, so the computers are in a different room now. 03:36:40.160 --> 03:36:43.160 So where the base stations were set up is not where the 03:36:43.160 --> 03:36:48.160 computers are anymore. 03:36:48.160 --> 03:36:51.160 So I'm trying to figure out how to deal with that. Do it eventually. 03:36:51.160 --> 03:36:56.160 Yeah, yeah. Who's going to do it? The new room that the computers are set up in, there is less space. 03:36:56.160 --> 03:37:00.160 Who's going to do it? So I've been trying to figure out basically, is it worth it 03:37:00.160 --> 03:37:03.160 to get another pair of base stations basically 03:37:03.160 --> 03:37:07.160 and have base stations in there in the smaller room 03:37:07.160 --> 03:37:10.160 that I can use at my desk with my computer? 03:37:10.160 --> 03:37:13.160 Base stations? More like based stations. 03:37:13.160 --> 03:37:17.160 What a solution. I love it. Or should I just put them up where they were 03:37:17.160 --> 03:37:22.160 and then find some way to tether all the way into the other room? 03:37:22.160 --> 03:37:25.160 Long range tether. Risky. Yeah. 03:37:25.160 --> 03:37:30.160 And I don't want to have a separate box in that other room. 03:37:30.160 --> 03:37:33.160 That sucks. Yeah, that's... RAM expensive. 03:37:33.160 --> 03:37:36.160 Yeah. Just like as far as I can tell everyone else, I'd really 03:37:36.160 --> 03:37:40.160 rather not build a computer right now. 03:37:40.160 --> 03:37:43.160 So it's like, okay. 03:37:43.160 --> 03:37:46.160 But yeah, the amount of available space in the room that 03:37:46.160 --> 03:37:53.160 the computer is in now is kind of rough. So it's like, okay. 03:37:53.160 --> 03:37:59.160 And another annoying thing. We asked them not to seal over the holes for the screws 03:37:59.160 --> 03:38:03.160 where the base stations were. And they left one of them just fine, but they totally 03:38:03.160 --> 03:38:06.160 sealed over the other one. So now you have to put a hole in your wall. 03:38:06.160 --> 03:38:09.160 Yeah, two of them. Two holes. I think it's two. 03:38:09.160 --> 03:38:15.160 Pretty sure it's two. Two holes. Do they make a half though? 03:38:15.160 --> 03:38:18.160 Super long cable. That's what we were just saying. Bernardo Baruch, I'm fine. 03:38:18.160 --> 03:38:21.160 This is not an injection site for my horrible addiction. 03:38:21.160 --> 03:38:26.160 I just... That would be a kind of brutal spot. 03:38:26.160 --> 03:38:31.160 Oh my God. I dived for an epic badminton return and it was amazing. 03:38:31.160 --> 03:38:34.160 And I slid on my elbow. 03:38:34.160 --> 03:38:40.160 Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. Don't do it at all, but especially not there. 03:38:40.160 --> 03:38:44.160 I mean, you might not do it again. 03:38:45.160 --> 03:38:48.160 Not medical advice. Yeah, that's true. 03:38:48.160 --> 03:38:51.160 All right. Let's jump into After Dark. Are we at After Dark time? 03:38:51.160 --> 03:38:54.160 Let's do it. I think so. Let's do this thing. 03:38:54.160 --> 03:38:58.160 See, it's the common curse. You said it was going to be such an incredibly long show. 03:38:58.160 --> 03:39:01.160 And now we're at After Dark before we were last time. 03:39:01.160 --> 03:39:04.160 That's how it works. Oh yeah. 03:39:04.160 --> 03:39:07.160 How'd that happen? Oh, the show's going to be really, really short this week. 03:39:07.160 --> 03:39:10.160 And then it's... Yeah, what's up with that? 03:39:10.160 --> 03:39:13.160 Every time you complain that there's no topics, it's a five hour show. 03:39:13.160 --> 03:39:16.160 And every time there's too many topics, it's really fast. 03:39:16.160 --> 03:39:21.160 I wonder if it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think maybe because you're trying to correct for... 03:39:21.160 --> 03:39:24.160 Yeah. We're just too good at correcting for the amount of topics. 03:39:24.160 --> 03:39:27.160 How many years have you guys been doing this? 03:39:27.160 --> 03:39:31.160 At least one. Factually correct. 03:39:31.160 --> 03:39:35.160 Yeah. All right. Let's see what we have for you today. 03:39:35.160 --> 03:39:39.160 Hey, tall, tall and short. I hope it's a good news WAN Show. 03:39:39.160 --> 03:39:46.160 You were correct. It's pretty nice. I'm trying to find a good recommendation for a CPU upgrade for my friend, 03:39:46.160 --> 03:39:51.160 still on AM4 because 5800X3Ds are gone. 03:39:51.160 --> 03:39:54.160 Are the XT CPUs worth upgrading? 03:39:54.160 --> 03:39:57.160 In my opinion, no, not really. 03:40:02.160 --> 03:40:05.160 Yeah, that's a tough one because on the one hand, 03:40:05.160 --> 03:40:08.160 an AM4 chip is still good enough to game. 03:40:08.160 --> 03:40:13.160 You're not giving up much as soon as you're up at 1440p 03:40:13.160 --> 03:40:16.160 unless you have a God tier GPU. 03:40:16.160 --> 03:40:22.160 So the good news is they're probably having a pretty good experience. 03:40:22.160 --> 03:40:27.160 The bad news is that if they want to upgrade at this point, 03:40:27.160 --> 03:40:33.160 their options are kind of limited without going for a full new platform, 03:40:33.160 --> 03:40:39.160 which I would assume we're trying to avoid spending money on DDR5. 03:40:39.160 --> 03:40:43.160 Yeah, this is a little off-topic, but that is one of the things I was looking into 03:40:43.160 --> 03:40:48.160 is what is the most cranked processor I can get that's still DDR4? 03:40:48.160 --> 03:40:51.160 Intel. Because the price saving is... 03:40:51.160 --> 03:40:56.160 I was thinking 5950X, but I have not done very much looking into this. 03:40:56.160 --> 03:41:01.160 I wouldn't want to spend that kind of money on an old platform. 03:41:04.160 --> 03:41:08.160 So 5950X, you're spending $336, 03:41:08.160 --> 03:41:13.160 and the bad news about that is you're not really getting much 03:41:13.160 --> 03:41:16.160 out of the other eight cores from a gaming standpoint. 03:41:16.160 --> 03:41:19.160 Oh, yeah. In my perspective, I'm not gaming. 03:41:19.160 --> 03:41:22.160 Right. Yeah, so there you go. 03:41:22.160 --> 03:41:27.160 I mean, this is... It's okay, but by the time I'm spending $300... 03:41:27.160 --> 03:41:30.160 I wonder if these went up because of the whole RAM thing. 03:41:31.160 --> 03:41:35.160 Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yeah, it's been a thing. 03:41:35.160 --> 03:41:40.160 Hold on. Intel, what are the bloody new ones called? 03:41:40.160 --> 03:41:45.160 I think it was ASRock or something. Did that like, oh, it's DDR5 and DDR4 on the same motherboard thing? 03:41:45.160 --> 03:41:49.160 I wish they would just have the... I don't know, the cone is to just... 03:41:49.160 --> 03:41:54.160 It's just DDR4. Whatever. Modern CPU, four slots, DDR4. 03:41:54.160 --> 03:41:58.160 Go for it. $12700K is what Pankrats is recommending. 03:41:58.160 --> 03:42:02.160 $12700K. Yeah. That's probably well... 03:42:02.160 --> 03:42:06.160 Ooh, that's actually... Oh, that's a new price. Hold on. 03:42:06.160 --> 03:42:09.160 Let me find it on eBay or something. 03:42:09.160 --> 03:42:13.160 Where the bloody hell are the core Ultras, the new ones? 03:42:13.160 --> 03:42:16.160 Oh, yeah, those are still... They're kind of... 03:42:16.160 --> 03:42:21.160 Okay. Ooh, expensive. So by the time you're spending that kind of money, 03:42:21.160 --> 03:42:25.160 this is a much faster chip. 03:42:25.160 --> 03:42:32.160 And this guy. This guy is actually like kind of stellar for $220 bucks. 03:42:32.160 --> 03:42:38.160 Those plus chips are pretty wicked. I wish building computers was like a thing that people were doing right now, 03:42:38.160 --> 03:42:43.160 because it was so sad seeing that video like not just get like 2 million views 03:42:43.160 --> 03:42:46.160 because everyone's so hyped on the new processors. Yeah, like that... 03:42:46.160 --> 03:42:50.160 Dude, the core Ultra5 250K plus, awful name. 03:42:50.160 --> 03:42:53.160 Pretty exciting chip. 03:42:53.160 --> 03:42:56.160 Yeah. And just no one can afford RAM. 03:42:56.160 --> 03:43:04.160 Yeah. But by the time I've saved $100 compared to that 5950X, right? 03:43:04.160 --> 03:43:08.160 Because I'm getting 18 cores. Yeah, not all of them are performance cores or whatever, 03:43:08.160 --> 03:43:11.160 but I'm getting 18 cores now instead of 16 cores. 03:43:11.160 --> 03:43:16.160 Like let's have a look at 16 gigs DDR5. 03:43:16.160 --> 03:43:19.160 Remember, I just saved $100. Yeah. 03:43:19.160 --> 03:43:22.160 So yeah, it's $220 for DDR5, 03:43:22.160 --> 03:43:25.160 but I can probably sell my DDR4 for some money. 03:43:25.160 --> 03:43:29.160 And now all of a sudden I'm... Okay, now I'm getting like a whole platform upgrade. 03:43:29.160 --> 03:43:40.160 I'm moving to PCA Gen 5. I just by design it feels like AMD by no longer producing X3D chips for the AM4 platform 03:43:40.160 --> 03:43:49.160 is kind of undercutting what was supposed to be one of the promises of that platform 03:43:49.160 --> 03:43:53.160 is having that upgrade path. And in some ways it's not AMD's fault 03:43:53.160 --> 03:43:57.160 because they had no way of knowing that the second hand market for these X3D chips 03:43:57.160 --> 03:44:00.160 was going to go absolutely besonkers. Yeah. 03:44:00.160 --> 03:44:04.160 But on the other hand, they totally probably could make X3D chips 03:44:04.160 --> 03:44:09.160 and then AM4 users who didn't go X3D earlier would have an upgrade path. 03:44:09.160 --> 03:44:12.160 But you can see, it's one of those funny things. 03:44:12.160 --> 03:44:18.160 It's like back when I bought a minivan and I realized that it wasn't cheaper to buy a used one 03:44:18.160 --> 03:44:23.160 per sort of usable remaining low maintenance life 03:44:23.160 --> 03:44:26.160 because everyone had made the same spreadsheet that I did. 03:44:26.160 --> 03:44:31.160 Yeah. In the same way, everyone has access to the same performance data that I do 03:44:31.160 --> 03:44:35.160 and that you do and is doing the same calculation going, 03:44:35.160 --> 03:44:38.160 okay, how do we position our products so that they're like, 03:44:38.160 --> 03:44:42.160 you know, these ones are pretty okay, but what you really want is this one. 03:44:42.160 --> 03:44:46.160 And so they're looking at RAM pricing. They're balancing that against how much their CPUs cost 03:44:46.160 --> 03:44:51.160 and their motherboard's cost and they're trying to make it. They're trying to make the one they want you to buy more compelling 03:44:51.160 --> 03:44:57.160 and the one they don't want you to buy less compelling. So that's probably the route that I would go right now 03:44:57.160 --> 03:45:03.160 if you were looking for a serious upgrade on AM4 and X3D is not really an option. 03:45:03.160 --> 03:45:06.160 And Pankrat's advice is pretty good. 03:45:06.160 --> 03:45:09.160 What do you say, $12,700K? Yeah. 03:45:09.160 --> 03:45:15.160 That's a really solid option as well. I'm just, I'm a little worried that while we are saving some money 03:45:15.160 --> 03:45:19.160 by sticking with the DDR4, we're changing our motherboard and we're changing our CPU 03:45:19.160 --> 03:45:23.160 and I'm not sure if we're getting enough of an upgrade for that in-game. 03:45:23.160 --> 03:45:26.160 I think it's really going to depend on your local market too. 03:45:26.160 --> 03:45:33.160 That, yeah, 100%. Yeah. And what's nice about my option of going DDR5 now, 03:45:33.160 --> 03:45:39.160 even though like that sucks, is that DDR4 is also benefiting from the Rampock ellipse in terms of its value. 03:45:39.160 --> 03:45:43.160 So the fact that you have some DDR4 helps take a little bit of a bite 03:45:43.160 --> 03:45:46.160 out of that DDR5 upgrade. Yeah. 03:45:48.160 --> 03:45:50.160 All right, hit me, Dan. 03:45:52.160 --> 03:45:56.160 Hi, LLD. My dad has been stealing my screwdriver a lot lately, 03:45:56.160 --> 03:45:59.160 so I'm getting one for his birthday. Nice. 03:45:59.160 --> 03:46:02.160 What is your favorite present that you have received from your kids 03:46:02.160 --> 03:46:06.160 or your parents from you? Oh, wow, favorite present from my kids. 03:46:06.160 --> 03:46:09.160 There's a really cute one they made me. 03:46:09.160 --> 03:46:14.160 They made me an iPad that was like a little, 03:46:14.160 --> 03:46:17.160 not like a pop-up book, 03:46:17.160 --> 03:46:21.160 but like a lift-the-flap thing. 03:46:21.160 --> 03:46:26.160 So it has a whole bunch of apps on it. And then in each app, they wrote something nice under it. 03:46:26.160 --> 03:46:29.160 That's cool. It's really cute. Yvonne helped them make it. 03:46:29.160 --> 03:46:36.160 Oh, you know what? There was another really good one they did for me. They made me pajamas that had vinyl iron-on things of just things I like. 03:46:36.160 --> 03:46:39.160 So it has like a badminton racket on it and like a cat 03:46:39.160 --> 03:46:42.160 and like a bunch of just like kind of random stuff like that. 03:46:42.160 --> 03:46:50.160 I wore those into the crown. Usually Yvonne is the actual driver of the stuff that my kids give me that I really like. 03:46:50.160 --> 03:46:53.160 That makes sense. I don't need anything from my kids. 03:46:53.160 --> 03:46:58.160 Their smile when I walk in the door is like realistically all I ever hope to need from them. 03:46:58.160 --> 03:47:01.160 Hallmark card. Sorry? Hallmark card. 03:47:01.160 --> 03:47:04.160 I don't want a Hallmark card. It sounds like what's on a Hallmark card. 03:47:04.160 --> 03:47:12.160 Oh, sure. I'd rather have nothing than like spending, wasting $6 so much on a card 13. 03:47:12.160 --> 03:47:16.160 I don't know how much a Hallmark card costs. They're insane. 03:47:16.160 --> 03:47:18.160 It's so stupid. No dog. 03:47:21.160 --> 03:47:24.160 I'm going to hear about saying that, but I stand by it. They're ridiculous. 03:47:28.160 --> 03:47:32.160 I don't know if it's necessarily my favorite, but one of a very memorable one for me is, 03:47:32.160 --> 03:47:36.160 you know, when you turn 16, at least up here, there's a lot of conversations around like, 03:47:36.160 --> 03:47:38.160 are your parents going to get you a car? 03:47:40.160 --> 03:47:45.160 That was not going to be a thing for us, but my dad bought me. 03:47:45.160 --> 03:47:48.160 It's supposed to be a gift from you two, your parents. 03:47:52.160 --> 03:47:55.160 Hallmark card. No, I've got some cool ones. 03:47:55.160 --> 03:47:58.160 I'm trying to think of like, what's the... 03:47:58.160 --> 03:48:01.160 I mean, I think the one you did this year was really cool. 03:48:04.160 --> 03:48:09.160 Did I talk about that? I mean, it's up to you. It's over now, so no one's going to harass you there. 03:48:11.160 --> 03:48:18.160 Lord of the Rings was like a huge thing for my family. Like my mom has a huge like chest of memorabilia from back then. 03:48:18.160 --> 03:48:21.160 We won some like call-in contests that I think you had to like, 03:48:21.160 --> 03:48:24.160 know details with the movies or something to try to win, 03:48:24.160 --> 03:48:27.160 to get us an advanced screening for, I believe it was two towers. 03:48:27.160 --> 03:48:30.160 I won that. I think I brought my mom. 03:48:31.160 --> 03:48:37.160 I think it was, sorry, I said it the other way around. It was my mom and I that went, I think it was, I think I won it. 03:48:37.160 --> 03:48:43.160 Anyways, whatever. Very, very, very into Lord of the Rings and they had a 25-year 03:48:43.160 --> 03:48:50.160 anniversary thing this year and the Hobbits and the actor for 03:48:50.160 --> 03:48:54.160 Gimli and the actor for Faramir were all going to be there 03:48:54.160 --> 03:48:59.160 and you could do like meet and greets and photos and stuff. And I got everybody tickets to go there and like meet people 03:48:59.160 --> 03:49:04.160 and whatnot. And it's interesting. I think I talked about that a little bit on the show here, 03:49:04.160 --> 03:49:09.160 but it's interesting how it kind of went. 03:49:10.160 --> 03:49:15.160 Yeah, I know it wasn't how you expected. No, I mean the show was terribly ran. 03:49:15.160 --> 03:49:18.160 It was actually like kind of fascinating how poorly the show was ran. 03:49:18.160 --> 03:49:21.160 I talked to, there was somebody there. I don't remember his name right now. 03:49:21.160 --> 03:49:26.160 I hope I gave him a shout out last time I talked about it, but there was somebody there that like really helped our 03:49:26.160 --> 03:49:30.160 experience not be really terrible, which was awesome. 03:49:31.160 --> 03:49:34.160 Oh, someone in chat said John Rhys Davies is a bundle of joy. 03:49:34.160 --> 03:49:40.160 Yeah, he was like amazing. And from watching the movies, Gimli is like one of my least 03:49:40.160 --> 03:49:43.160 favorite characters because he's like very definitely just 03:49:43.160 --> 03:49:46.160 used his comedic relief most of the time. 03:49:46.160 --> 03:49:50.160 I actually appreciate him in the movies way more now because 03:49:50.160 --> 03:49:53.160 I've met John Rhys Davies in real life and I'm like, 03:49:53.160 --> 03:49:59.160 oh, he's just kind of like that. When we were all taking photos, he was like tickling people to 03:49:59.160 --> 03:50:04.160 try to get them to laugh. And he'd like get really happy if he got you. 03:50:04.160 --> 03:50:07.160 He'd be like, it was very funny. 03:50:07.160 --> 03:50:12.160 That's fun. And yeah, like you have to toss me scene. 03:50:12.160 --> 03:50:16.160 It's so good. Felt a lot more like real after meeting him too. 03:50:16.160 --> 03:50:19.160 Right. Like it feels less acted. That's just kind of what he's like. 03:50:19.160 --> 03:50:23.160 Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome. 03:50:23.160 --> 03:50:28.160 Yeah, that's probably one of my, I like that one more. 03:50:29.160 --> 03:50:34.160 Yeah. I thought that one was awesome. Yeah, it was pretty sweet. 03:50:34.160 --> 03:50:37.160 Up next, two quests. 03:50:37.160 --> 03:50:40.160 Linus, what is your strategy to keep your mind sharp? 03:50:40.160 --> 03:50:43.160 What do you do? Diet, reading, sleep? 03:50:43.160 --> 03:50:46.160 We know about exercise, but what else do you do? 03:50:46.160 --> 03:50:49.160 And Luke, when's the chicken recipe? Help a bro. 03:50:49.160 --> 03:50:52.160 It's on Floatplane. It is. It is. 03:50:52.160 --> 03:50:55.160 You can find it. LMG.GG slash Floatplane. Not only gives you the recipe, he makes it. 03:50:55.160 --> 03:50:58.160 Yep. So he shows you how to do it. Keep my mind sharp. 03:50:58.160 --> 03:51:03.160 I mean, is it sharp? 03:51:03.160 --> 03:51:07.160 You'd be honest, right? Yeah, I think so. 03:51:07.160 --> 03:51:12.160 It's the same answer that I give everyone when they ask me something like this. 03:51:12.160 --> 03:51:17.160 You know, how did you work so hard in the early days of LMG? 03:51:17.160 --> 03:51:20.160 And how do you do this? And how did you succeed? 03:51:20.160 --> 03:51:24.160 How did you do that? I don't have a choice. 03:51:25.160 --> 03:51:30.160 I get home at the end of the day and I have a splitting headache very often because you 03:51:30.160 --> 03:51:35.160 can only, you can, it's a weird thing because it doesn't seem intuitive. 03:51:35.160 --> 03:51:41.160 Your brain's not a muscle, but it does, in my experience, it does wear out. 03:51:41.160 --> 03:51:48.160 I, like, my brain gets really tired and there are certain things that make it more tired 03:51:48.160 --> 03:51:53.160 than other things, but when you run a business, you can't avoid those things. 03:51:53.160 --> 03:52:01.160 You don't really have that luxury of, like, this task is not good for my mental health. 03:52:01.160 --> 03:52:07.160 You get, fortunately, a lot of support if you have a good team and I do, but at the 03:52:07.160 --> 03:52:12.160 end of the day, you can't just, like, hide from things. 03:52:12.160 --> 03:52:15.160 And if you do, they tend to snowball and get bigger. 03:52:15.160 --> 03:52:21.160 And we've had those experiences many times over the years where we've tried to avoid a 03:52:21.160 --> 03:52:25.160 problem and, ultimately, it has turned into a much bigger problem. 03:52:25.160 --> 03:52:28.160 No choice. 03:52:28.160 --> 03:52:32.160 Power through it. Terrible advice. 03:52:32.160 --> 03:52:37.160 You know, not great for self-care, but how do I do it like that? 03:52:37.160 --> 03:52:40.160 Yeah, sometimes you just got to do it. 03:52:40.160 --> 03:52:43.160 For a bit of a slight jump back, this is it. 03:52:43.160 --> 03:52:49.160 If you're looking for it, there's your title. I do, I do read. 03:52:49.160 --> 03:52:52.160 I try to sleep. I often am not able to sleep anymore. 03:52:52.160 --> 03:52:56.160 I don't know if it's, like, just age or stress or kids or whatever it is. 03:52:56.160 --> 03:53:06.160 Sleep has been really rough for me. I try to not eat total garbage, although I had a really, I had the worst cheat day that I can remember. 03:53:06.160 --> 03:53:09.160 Are you doing that thing I recommended? 03:53:09.160 --> 03:53:12.160 Oh, I've tried the ultra-filtered milk. Okay. 03:53:12.160 --> 03:53:15.160 It doesn't taste that great. That isn't what I was talking about, but okay. 03:53:15.160 --> 03:53:18.160 Oh, the powder? Yeah. I haven't tried that yet. 03:53:19.160 --> 03:53:22.160 No, no, no, no. No, I'm talking like cheat day. 03:53:22.160 --> 03:53:26.160 No, I was just, that was a different thought. So I went down for a little workshop. 03:53:26.160 --> 03:53:31.160 Buddy of mine, Danny's badminton guy, but he runs a paint shop. 03:53:31.160 --> 03:53:35.160 Jake actually introduced us of all people. And so he runs like a paint spray shop. 03:53:35.160 --> 03:53:43.160 And after my terrible experience painting my bike, he was like chatting with me and was like, 03:53:43.160 --> 03:53:47.160 oh yeah, I could like maybe like show you how to paint some stuff. 03:53:47.160 --> 03:53:50.160 And I was like, oh yeah, I could get like a care package of merch for your son. 03:53:50.160 --> 03:53:56.160 His son's really into the channel. Anyway, we figured out a deal and Danny's a super nice guy, very generous with his time. 03:53:56.160 --> 03:54:03.160 He's come out and run a couple of like badminton reddit group meetups at our badminton club. 03:54:03.160 --> 03:54:09.160 The world is so small and you never know what kind of connection you're going to make by just like being nice to people. 03:54:09.160 --> 03:54:14.160 So anyway, we've, so we've done a few things together and he offered to help me figure out my paint gun. 03:54:14.160 --> 03:54:19.160 So that if I ever try to tackle something like that again, I maybe will be somewhat competent this time. 03:54:19.160 --> 03:54:22.160 It won't take two and a half years. 03:54:22.160 --> 03:54:26.160 Anyway, I was on my way back from that really nice little session. 03:54:26.160 --> 03:54:32.160 I've learned a lot and I was like, oh, is Krispy Kreme still open? 03:54:32.160 --> 03:54:35.160 And unfortunately it was. 03:54:35.160 --> 03:54:38.160 So. Linus has a thing for Krispy Kreme. 03:54:38.160 --> 03:54:45.160 Myself, a dozen of the Krispy Kreme original glaze that evening. 03:54:45.160 --> 03:54:52.160 It was probably the most perfectly baked batch of Krispy Kreme donuts that I have ever eaten. 03:54:52.160 --> 03:54:55.160 The glazing was perfect. Not too much sugar. 03:54:55.160 --> 03:54:59.160 Like the bottom still had no sugar, but it was like down the sides. 03:54:59.160 --> 03:55:12.160 So it wasn't like too sweet. But the lightest, chewiest, like it was, I ate eight of them that evening and for the next morning, three and a half. 03:55:12.160 --> 03:55:15.160 My daughters caught me up with the last one in my hand. 03:55:15.160 --> 03:55:18.160 They were like, are the rest of them gone? 03:55:18.160 --> 03:55:25.160 Are there any for us? Because I had intended to share them. 03:55:25.160 --> 03:55:29.160 I don't know how they make something that has so many calories in it. 03:55:29.160 --> 03:55:32.160 Taste so light. 03:55:32.160 --> 03:55:39.160 It's incredible. And I even, I went really late at night thinking, oh, it's probably going to be like a crappy batch from like many hours ago. 03:55:39.160 --> 03:55:43.160 But it was like the freshest, perfectest batch of Krispy Kreme I ever had. 03:55:43.160 --> 03:55:48.160 I just, oh man, it was so good. 03:55:48.160 --> 03:55:53.160 It was so good. That's pretty sweet. So I cheated like super hard earlier this week. 03:55:53.160 --> 03:55:58.160 And then I punished myself on the Stairmaster. 03:55:58.160 --> 03:56:02.160 I'm, I think I'm, I think I'm pinch test. 03:56:02.160 --> 03:56:05.160 Okay today. So it wasn't that bad. Yeah. 03:56:05.160 --> 03:56:08.160 Pinch test. Yeah. Pinch test. 03:56:08.160 --> 03:56:15.160 There's like, dude, be, I'm, I'm closing in on 40. And there's like, there's like front flap that just won't go away anymore. 03:56:15.160 --> 03:56:18.160 You just started to carry more weight. It just sucks, man. 03:56:18.160 --> 03:56:24.160 It sucks. 03:56:24.160 --> 03:56:29.160 That's life though. I've been losing decently, consistently lately. 03:56:29.160 --> 03:56:33.160 I started with the knee problems. I sent you a little video of it. 03:56:33.160 --> 03:56:37.160 I started the, the treadmill walks again. 03:56:37.160 --> 03:56:41.160 I have like a full D treadmill that can unfold and go under my desk. 03:56:41.160 --> 03:56:47.160 And that's been pretty good. Part of that is just getting back into the habit of remembering to do that. 03:56:47.160 --> 03:56:54.160 That is annoying because like, I'll just be so lasered in on work or whatever that 03:56:54.160 --> 03:56:58.160 I just forget to switch. 03:56:58.160 --> 03:57:03.160 But then once it's going, I can stay on it for a while. 03:57:03.160 --> 03:57:06.160 190 calories is no big deal, but 12. 03:57:06.160 --> 03:57:09.160 Yeah. No, no. Dan was saying it's only 190. 03:57:09.160 --> 03:57:14.160 Yeah. Yeah. I was just in chat clarifying it's 190 each. 03:57:14.160 --> 03:57:17.160 Yes. Yes. It's only 190 each. 03:57:17.160 --> 03:57:20.160 That's actually way better than I would have expected. 03:57:20.160 --> 03:57:23.160 Me too. Let's see. McDouble gallery. 03:57:23.160 --> 03:57:26.160 If you get a McDouble, it's 400 calories. 03:57:26.160 --> 03:57:32.160 Yeah. So I sat down and I ate four McDoubles in one sitting, which is, that's not good. 03:57:32.160 --> 03:57:35.160 Oh no. We're not, I'm not saying it's good. Okay. 03:57:35.160 --> 03:57:39.160 Like, okay. If you had one. Dan seems to be trying to, it seems to be trying to rationalize my terrible behavior. 03:57:39.160 --> 03:57:45.160 Like how much is it? No, no. I was surprised that like a donut is not McDonald's. 03:57:45.160 --> 03:57:49.160 That's crazy. Milk shake. Oh, those are like a thousand. 03:57:49.160 --> 03:57:53.160 I tried to go with medium to be, to be pretty chill. 03:57:53.160 --> 03:57:57.160 750 calories for a medium milkshake from McDonald's. 03:57:57.160 --> 03:58:00.160 Yeah. Milkshakes are brutal. I love milkshakes. 03:58:00.160 --> 03:58:03.160 What about like a, what about like a fries? 03:58:03.160 --> 03:58:06.720 But I just, I almost never do it anymore. 03:58:06.720 --> 03:58:11.280 Sometimes I will share a milkshake with Yvonne if she has one, but I just, I can't. 03:58:11.280 --> 03:58:15.660 A medium fries is 350 calories from, and like who's getting medium. 03:58:15.660 --> 03:58:19.200 So we're talking 560 calories for a large fries from McDonald's. 03:58:19.200 --> 03:58:23.000 And this is a Canadian one. I'm sure the American size is bigger. Wouldn't be too surprised. 03:58:23.000 --> 03:58:28.840 So, so it's like, for, you know, for that many fries, you get a few donuts in there. 03:58:28.840 --> 03:58:32.840 Yep. Yep. And I would, I think I would take three Krispy Kreme donuts. 03:58:32.840 --> 03:58:36.720 I would thousand percent take three Krispy Kreme's over, I think, oh, oh, McDonald's fries. 03:58:36.720 --> 03:58:40.720 Okay. If they're freshly fried though. 03:58:41.520 --> 03:58:44.920 You guys have heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times on this show. 03:58:44.920 --> 03:58:51.320 Oh, sorry. Sorry. AJ, not, not our AJ, but, but full-point chat AJ said, I run an ice cream parlor. 03:58:51.320 --> 03:58:55.200 Our brownie Sunday is 1600 calories. 03:58:55.200 --> 03:58:58.200 That's insane. Holy crap. That's insane. 03:58:58.200 --> 03:59:04.000 These numbers, like the fries and the milkshake and that are all why I'm saying like, oh, 03:59:04.000 --> 03:59:09.540 it's like surprising that it's only 190 eating 12 of them is. 03:59:09.580 --> 03:59:15.260 Inserving of McDonald's plain hamburger bun is 150 calories. 03:59:15.260 --> 03:59:19.260 This is what I'm saying. It's actually very surprising. That's nuts. 03:59:19.260 --> 03:59:22.900 Probably cause I think the, it's, it's a cake one, right? 03:59:22.900 --> 03:59:25.900 So it's mostly like kind of air. It's pretty airy. 03:59:25.900 --> 03:59:28.900 Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty airy. 03:59:28.900 --> 03:59:31.900 I haven't had one of those. Most of it probably comes from sugar. Sugar. 03:59:31.900 --> 03:59:39.420 So rather than like fat. Yeah. Anyway, you've heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times, but I am a fry enjoyer. 03:59:39.780 --> 03:59:45.140 McDonald's fries are, dude, when the fresh McDonald's fries. 03:59:45.140 --> 03:59:49.580 Pretty good. Yeah. I'll just, I'll eat them without even thinking about it. 03:59:49.580 --> 03:59:55.300 I can't have them within reach, like our kids don't eat McDonald's much, but when we 03:59:55.300 --> 03:59:59.700 do get it, I have to just put the fries in the back where I can't reach them because 03:59:59.700 --> 04:00:05.380 I'll just eat them all and they won't even get any. 04:00:05.380 --> 04:00:10.900 What is the correct price and your opinion for a hybrid motorcycle? 04:00:10.900 --> 04:00:15.500 What kind of miles per gallon or liters per kilometer target should it hit? 04:00:15.500 --> 04:00:20.740 Should it be feet forward or standard or sit it scooter style? 04:00:20.740 --> 04:00:24.900 That is totally. Those are a lot of. Up to you. 04:00:24.900 --> 04:00:30.660 Personally, I do not have nor do I have any interest in a hybrid motorcycle. 04:00:30.660 --> 04:00:40.260 I, I like my old crappy 23 year old bike from 2003. 04:00:40.260 --> 04:00:46.060 It makes motorsports noises, which makes me happy, which normally I don't care about. 04:00:46.060 --> 04:00:50.220 I don't care about it for my go cart. I don't care about it for my full sized car. 04:00:50.220 --> 04:00:57.100 I just don't care about like, like that type of engagement with the vehicle anywhere except 04:00:57.100 --> 04:01:04.120 my motorcycle. And the efficiency for me of a motorcycle is a lot less important than the efficiency 04:01:04.120 --> 04:01:09.820 of a car in my life or a much larger vehicle in my life. 04:01:09.820 --> 04:01:13.380 Like it just, it's so small and it consumes so little fuel. 04:01:13.380 --> 04:01:20.740 Like a van, right? Like a, like a Honda Odyssey, like a much larger vehicle like that. 04:01:20.740 --> 04:01:25.540 And so I just, I can't, I can't care too much about that. 04:01:25.540 --> 04:01:31.220 I also never ride very far. So comfort is not a major concern. 04:01:31.220 --> 04:01:36.100 So I, I'm on like the street bike. I'm like all folded over the handlebars and stuff. 04:01:36.100 --> 04:01:40.380 I'm the wrong person to ask is what I'm trying to say right now, because the way I use my 04:01:40.380 --> 04:01:45.820 bike is just completely unaligned with your very practical concerns. 04:01:45.820 --> 04:01:52.980 And I'm so sorry to give you such a non answer, but at least it was a thorough and long one. 04:01:52.980 --> 04:01:57.580 That's all that matters in the end. Aloha LDL from Hawaii. 04:01:57.580 --> 04:02:00.940 What is your best component overheating story? 04:02:00.940 --> 04:02:05.380 My 6950 was hitting 114 due to cheap thermal paste. 04:02:05.380 --> 04:02:08.380 Oops. Thanks for selling PTM7950. Yikes. 04:02:08.380 --> 04:02:12.820 Um, I haven't really had a lot of tons of problems with it. 04:02:12.820 --> 04:02:17.140 Computer overheating story. I mean, I've definitely had some issues. 04:02:17.140 --> 04:02:23.620 There's been, I mean, I mean, there's the multiple times that I've accidentally boiled 04:02:23.620 --> 04:02:30.500 water in a loop and therefore caused it to build pressure and explode tubing off of the 04:02:30.500 --> 04:02:35.780 fittings. Like that's, that's a thing because you run so many test benches, you're just like putting 04:02:35.780 --> 04:02:41.900 things together quickly. So if you don't have the fans running on a radiator because you know, whatever, if it 04:02:41.900 --> 04:02:49.060 runs for long enough, the coolant will get hot, maybe not, maybe not like boiling, boiling, 04:02:49.060 --> 04:02:54.780 but enough that you're getting pressure buildup. And uh, and I've had that happen before. 04:02:54.780 --> 04:02:58.500 I don't remember the specifics around it, but it's funny. 04:02:58.500 --> 04:03:04.260 I think, I think everything lived. I think it's happened a couple of times. I don't think I've ever actually killed anything like that because as long as it's clean water 04:03:04.260 --> 04:03:11.300 and you get it off right away and you turn, cut the power, uh, you can actually, uh, hardware 04:03:11.300 --> 04:03:16.980 is very survivable. Like that Coke, uh, that Coke video we did where we spilled Coke on the running machine 04:03:16.980 --> 04:03:20.140 and then we like cleaned it all and turned it back on. We didn't stage that. 04:03:20.140 --> 04:03:23.740 We did fake stuff that happened. It all lived. 04:03:23.740 --> 04:03:33.140 Yeah. So when posted, uh, when Bingo Chronified posted that the MacBook Neo is funny, you had a single 04:03:33.140 --> 04:03:36.740 thermal pad and benchmarks go up 30%. Yeah. 04:03:36.740 --> 04:03:39.780 Uh, was it Optimum Tech that did it? Someone did it. 04:03:39.780 --> 04:03:43.420 Sorry. Um, and it's, it's a little more complicated than that. 04:03:43.420 --> 04:03:49.020 I haven't actually watched Optimum's video, um, but I do know ETA prime, sorry, ETA prime 04:03:49.020 --> 04:03:55.460 did it. So I haven't watched ETA prime's video and, uh, so I don't know exactly how they did it. 04:03:55.460 --> 04:04:00.220 What I suspect is that it's really similar to the mod that we did back on the M1 MacBook 04:04:00.220 --> 04:04:04.440 way back in the day where you're just using the bottom of the chassis as a heat sink. 04:04:04.440 --> 04:04:11.300 So it's not just as simple as Apple is herder, too stupid to, to put cooling in their machine. 04:04:11.300 --> 04:04:14.980 I mean, there's clearly a little bit of that, but it's not that they were too cheap to put 04:04:14.980 --> 04:04:20.780 in a thermal pad. It's that Apple has to follow guidelines for how hot the skin temperatures of the device 04:04:20.780 --> 04:04:27.020 can get. So they're not allowed to just put the CPU or SOC as it were, heat directly into the 04:04:27.020 --> 04:04:32.140 bottom of the chassis because they would exceed those safe temperatures if it was sitting 04:04:32.140 --> 04:04:37.140 on your lap. It sounds like Alex actually, Oh, did they do that too? 04:04:37.140 --> 04:04:40.700 Mr. Zip Tie Tech just threw in a thermal pad. That's cool. 04:04:40.700 --> 04:04:44.580 Um, I haven't watched the video, but you got a bunch of views on it. 04:04:44.580 --> 04:04:49.900 Yeah. Cool. Um, mess around with some cooling. 04:04:49.900 --> 04:04:53.740 I don't know where it's at in the video, but you guys will have to just check it out. Nice. 04:04:53.740 --> 04:04:56.740 It gets a cooling upgrade here. 04:04:56.740 --> 04:05:00.980 Well, you guys should go watch the video. 04:05:00.980 --> 04:05:03.980 We're not going to. Yeah. I'm just looking at it myself. 04:05:03.980 --> 04:05:13.100 But yeah, that's, that's pretty sweet. I saw probably without this cooling upgrade that people were getting, you know, with settings 04:05:13.100 --> 04:05:16.740 pretty low and whatnot, but above 30 FPS and cyberpunk. 04:05:16.740 --> 04:05:19.740 It's pretty cool. Just pretty nuts. All right. 04:05:19.740 --> 04:05:29.140 Dan, want to hit us with another? No. No, I don't think I have that much interest in getting it working. 04:05:29.140 --> 04:05:33.180 I, I did watch someone else's video getting one of them working. 04:05:33.180 --> 04:05:39.180 It's highly involved. Um, it's, it's not as simple as just talking about cause he was muted. 04:05:39.180 --> 04:05:43.460 So what, what device? Uh, nomad mp3 player from the dank pods collab video. 04:05:43.460 --> 04:05:47.460 Yeah. We're, we're not fixing that. It's just, I don't care that much about it. 04:05:47.460 --> 04:05:51.780 I'm so sorry to the nomad enthusiasts who wish that we were fixing it. 04:05:51.780 --> 04:05:55.940 I double pressed a couple more here. Hello Linus. 04:05:55.940 --> 04:06:01.860 When your kids had a pure toddler meltdown, how did you and approach that? 04:06:01.860 --> 04:06:05.260 And did you de-stress afterwards? De-stress? 04:06:05.260 --> 04:06:08.380 De-stress, I think they mean. Yeah. 04:06:08.580 --> 04:06:13.380 Uh, pure toddler meltdown is one of those things that if you handle it right, you have 04:06:13.380 --> 04:06:22.900 to handle it only a few times. And um, the bottom line is that you can only give positive reinforcement for behaviors that 04:06:22.900 --> 04:06:30.540 you want to see again. So if a meltdown gets the slice of cake, you will see that behavior over and over and 04:06:30.540 --> 04:06:40.060 over and over again. And if a meltdown gets you seated on a bench outside the restaurant where you are within 04:06:40.060 --> 04:06:46.900 eye shot, but not allowed to participate, it might even be a little cold that night. 04:06:46.900 --> 04:06:53.860 You're less likely to see it again. And we, we did have to go through meltdowns with all of our kids at one stage or another. 04:06:53.860 --> 04:06:56.860 And sometimes those battles literally took hours. 04:06:56.860 --> 04:07:01.660 I think I've told the story on Wancho before of the time that I was in an Ikea cafeteria 04:07:01.660 --> 04:07:07.260 for, I think it was a total of three cycles of other people starting and finishing their 04:07:07.260 --> 04:07:12.460 meals while I sat there battling it out with this crying child over that I had said you 04:07:12.460 --> 04:07:15.860 have to take one more bite. And she said, no. 04:07:15.860 --> 04:07:19.660 And I said, you don't understand. 04:07:19.660 --> 04:07:28.060 You will take another bite. And after that, there was no question because when I said, and literally I brought this 04:07:28.060 --> 04:07:34.260 up the next time we had a battle over food is I said, you have to eat this broccoli. 04:07:34.260 --> 04:07:38.820 And she said, no. And I said, okay, well, we can do it the way where you take the bite now and you eat the 04:07:38.820 --> 04:07:43.700 broccoli now, or we can do it the way we did at Ikea where you sat there and you cried 04:07:43.700 --> 04:07:48.020 for an hour and a half or two hours or whatever it was. 04:07:48.020 --> 04:07:54.820 And you did take the bite. So how do you want to do it? 04:07:54.820 --> 04:08:02.380 Can I go now? Yes. The tough part is you've got to be, you've got to keep your cool. 04:08:02.380 --> 04:08:10.300 You have to be good on the other end of it. You have to be, you have to keep your cool in the moment because if you lose it and you 04:08:10.300 --> 04:08:15.540 threaten something that you're not willing to follow through on or that you shouldn't 04:08:15.540 --> 04:08:21.580 follow through on, you've completely, you've completely broken the system. 04:08:21.580 --> 04:08:26.420 You have to stay controlled and you have to only threaten things that are reasonable 04:08:26.540 --> 04:08:28.060 and that you will follow through on. 04:08:29.900 --> 04:08:30.900 Yeah, so man, it's tough. 04:08:33.700 --> 04:08:36.180 Last one I got for you today, question for Luke. 04:08:36.740 --> 04:08:42.980 You mentioned Forza Horizon earlier. And I'm wondering if you've played any of the older Forza Horizon games. 04:08:43.220 --> 04:08:45.700 Two and three are still some of my favorite games. 04:08:46.260 --> 04:08:51.140 No, I've thought about going back, actually, because there was, I think I 04:08:51.140 --> 04:08:55.660 originally wanted to get into Forza because of drifting. And then to be completely honest, I actually really did not like the 04:08:55.660 --> 04:08:58.500 drifting in Forza Horizon 5 unless you were off-road. 04:08:59.500 --> 04:09:05.100 Really, really liked the off-road drifting, but the like on-track, on-road 04:09:05.100 --> 04:09:07.660 drifting in Forza Horizon 5, I really kind of hated. 04:09:08.820 --> 04:09:16.580 It just felt like liquid. It didn't feel like it was, I don't want it to be an actual sim. 04:09:16.660 --> 04:09:22.860 I wasn't playing Horizon for a sim, but it just, it felt way too whack. 04:09:24.020 --> 04:09:27.540 Even like Mario Kart drifting felt like it was more grounded in 04:09:27.540 --> 04:09:28.500 something that made sense. 04:09:31.260 --> 04:09:35.300 But I've seen some clips of some pretty cool drifting stuff in older 04:09:35.300 --> 04:09:42.700 Horizon games, but yeah, I've never really got around to it. There was almost like too much content in Horizon 5 to the point where when I was 04:09:42.700 --> 04:09:47.100 done, I was just like, okay, I think I'm going to take a break from racing 04:09:47.100 --> 04:09:47.820 games for a little bit. 04:09:51.180 --> 04:09:55.980 Yeah. But no, I like Orange. Luke doesn't not like the drifting in Mario Kart World. 04:09:55.980 --> 04:09:59.900 No, I don't like it. Oh, you don't like it. They are totally right. Oh, what's wrong with this? 04:10:00.260 --> 04:10:02.620 It's just worse than eight. 04:10:03.620 --> 04:10:06.860 We're not necessarily saying it's bad. Oh, interesting. It's just worse than eight. 04:10:07.220 --> 04:10:11.220 And it's not necessarily how it feels, but it's how like the game interacts 04:10:11.220 --> 04:10:14.780 with it, how it rewards it when you should use it versus other things, stuff like that. 04:10:14.900 --> 04:10:18.700 Is it just because you're used to it? It could be. I actually really like it. 04:10:18.700 --> 04:10:24.620 I've been open to that as a possibility. I only ever played Mario Kart DS extensively and it's really close to DS. 04:10:24.900 --> 04:10:29.260 So I was able to just pick it up and go. And I really don't like the drifting in eight. 04:10:29.660 --> 04:10:36.980 I mean, okay, fair enough. The Mario Kart drifting eight versus world is like insanely different than 04:10:38.620 --> 04:10:42.420 Horizon. The reason why I brought it up was because like in Mario Kart, you can kind 04:10:42.420 --> 04:10:45.180 of like really feel the bite of the road as you're trying to drift. 04:10:45.500 --> 04:10:51.380 And in Horizon five, and some people corroborated this in 04:10:51.380 --> 04:10:56.140 Philippine Jet as well. In Horizon five, when you take a drift car, tune for drifting and you 04:10:56.140 --> 04:10:59.420 take it on the road, the road just might as well not even be there. 04:10:59.980 --> 04:11:03.500 Just like you're just kind of floating around. Like it's very weird. 04:11:04.900 --> 04:11:09.060 I've been in cars while they were drifting. I've drifted in other games. 04:11:09.140 --> 04:11:14.420 Yeah. It's you're really kind of like fighting with the engine in the road. 04:11:14.460 --> 04:11:17.660 So to make yourself go around this thing, there's a lot of like force 04:11:17.660 --> 04:11:23.780 feedback, like a lot of it. And in Horizon, it's just like, I don't know. 04:11:23.780 --> 04:11:29.340 It's weird. And that's why I actually preferred drifting off road was because fighting 04:11:29.340 --> 04:11:32.420 the like gravel and dirt or whatever actually ended up feeling a lot more 04:11:32.420 --> 04:11:36.580 legit than trying to drift on the actual asphalt. 04:11:36.780 --> 04:11:40.620 Yeah. Pancras is saying Horizon five feels like the physics are weird with drift cars. 04:11:40.700 --> 04:11:43.380 Yeah. It feels really weird. It doesn't feel good. 04:11:44.380 --> 04:11:48.300 I think the main thing with world wasn't necessarily how the drifting felt, 04:11:48.700 --> 04:11:52.180 but how the game like rewarded and incentivized it more than anything else. 04:11:53.900 --> 04:12:02.700 But yeah. Well, I think that's all for now because I am busy playing vibes.fish 04:12:03.420 --> 04:12:06.820 and I have no further time for Wancho. 04:12:07.860 --> 04:12:11.260 So we will see you again next week. Same bad time. 04:12:11.740 --> 04:12:14.980 Same bad channel. Oh, and also on another channel next week. 04:12:15.260 --> 04:12:20.700 Oh, yeah. Yeah. So go subscribe to LMG clips because that's going to be the Wancho channel. 04:12:20.820 --> 04:12:23.940 It'll be called something else, but go subscribe now. Bye.