I wanna find Fred's new channel.
Yeah, we found that he sold his original channel
and then his original channel is full of like random garbage
that is not obviously Fred.
Yeah, like clearly was never gonna work.
And so we're just kind of wondering what his new channel is.
Were those two people peeking out of a vagina?
I don't know. No, I think it's a smile, I think it's a smile.
Oh man. Fred Quest.
Does anyone know? People on the reddit say that it's under his own name,
but his name is... Fred.
Fred. So... Oh wait, no, his name is Lucas.
Oh, is it? I've been looking up Fred Figalhorn.
Yeah, there's no problem. No, that's his character.
Okay, what's his last name? Lucas Cruikshank.
Here it is, it's just Lucas. Okay, so he actually uploaded as recently as five months ago.
Oh, no, as recently as two weeks ago. Yeah.
Oh, he totally still uploads. Yeah.
It's like I did a thing. I tested Protein Slop Dick Talk recipes.
I bought questionable Dick Talk products.
I tried to have fun at a dying abandoned mall.
Honestly, it feels like it's Fred still. I have a haunted hotel for him to check out.
Are they working on that yet? I wonder.
Pink Palace. Dot it. I kind of doubt it too, honestly.
Pink Palace, sorry.
New ownership offers hints about future. That was from October of 2024.
Um, yeah.
Cool.
Nothing in the news recently.
How is Sora dead asks Stakeboy? Well, stay tuned for the WAN Show and we'll tell you.
Yep. No news about the Pink Palace.
I can't find your hoodie on LTTstore.com.
It always gives me 404 instead. Haha, I get it.
All my back. Dude, I'm so sore and tired.
I have done too much, Jim. I'd laugh so hard if they were serious.
I don't think so. They could be though.
You don't know. All right. Should we, I mean, should we just get started?
Slash. I want to see if this is still a thing.
All right, that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, it's not.
What, starting the show? Yeah, sure, whatever. Oh, actually, hold on.
Give me a sec.
Yeah.
We actually have like a ton to get through today.
So it's going to be a huge show, bigly.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Dan, have you seen this Apple business topic?
It's getting real, boys. I mean, it sounds kind of awesome, to be honest.
Okay. Let's save it. Save it.
Should we just do this thing? Yeah, sure. I feel like we should just do this thing.
No. Oh, God, what is this? What is this?
I'm not going to worry about it. What?
Just send it whatever, Dan.
I love the delay.
I'm going to deal with the thinking head and then confront this.
Not yet. No, we're not going to talk about Cash Patel getting hacked, but it's pretty funny.
Oh, really? I didn't see that. His personal email was accessed by the Iranians,
apparently.
Boom roasted. It's weaponized incompetence.
It's been spectacular to witness.
Is it like self-hosted or some crap?
I have no idea. I mean, it's his personal email.
So like, you know, it's not a government email.
No, I know. That'd be funnier, but it's just still pretty funny.
Apparently it was Gmail. It was Gmail.
Yeah. So that like, not to give too much credit to Google,
but that sounds like it actually probably was just like
incompetence. And look, look, I've had accounts compromised before.
Everybody makes mistakes. So, you know, let's, let's, you know, bear that in mind.
But also when you're supposed to be the director of like
a national intelligence agency.
Yeah. It's just, it's funnier. Yeah.
That's all. I think it's funnier.
So no 2FA. It doesn't necessarily mean that. No, it doesn't necessarily mean that.
We got hacked. I mean, I'm getting 2FA. I wouldn't be, I mean, they didn't get into my email.
Yeah. Yeah.
Amarius says, I don't know.
It was pretty funny when you got hacked too loud. Now listen, my strawberry being on the internet for everyone to
see is not funny. Kind of funny.
I know. That's the joke. God.
I thought it was pretty funny. Oh, man.
The Louvre's password being Louvre. If Cash Patel's personal email password was like personal
email password. That would actually be pretty good. It would definitely be some kind of cash pun.
There's no cash cash money with cash and money.
Cash and money. He wouldn't even use like the dollar sign for the S.
That'd be too secure. Dollar sign money.
There's no way that's not in like the top, you know,
couple hundred passwords. Dollar sign money.
Just cash money. There's no way. I mean, as we learned from hackers, what are the top,
what are the top top hundred passwords? I guarantee you they've changed actually since the hackers
thing. So I think they probably just made those up too.
Oh my god. Some of those are very real. I can imagine.
They're just all numbers on the number key. Forget it.
There's no cash. There's no cash in here. Yeah.
A lot of it used to be like God and stuff.
Hmm. Wait, what?
Princess. By year, according to splash data.
People are getting more and more basic. This is crazy.
Yeah. Like QWERTY is it?
Oh, actually no. QWERTY is actually gone up.
So. Okay.
No, no, it's just variants. I felt like I was seeing more like actual words in the,
in the very top over here. Football. But that's not actually true.
That's not actually true. Football was like shot up for one year and then disappeared
again. Star Wars in 2017 was a password.
Oops. Star Wars.
What happened with Star Wars in 2017?
It might have been something that happened in 2016. Holy crap.
The last Jedi came out in 2017. And people are so excited about it that their passwords.
Dude, the last Jedi was almost 10 years ago.
I can't deal with that. Yeah.
Star Wars has been dead and buried for 10 years.
Yeah. That's crazy.
Yeah. There's kids who watch the last Jedi who are graduating high school.
Oh, is this top? I don't know if this is like a show topic, but Colbert's Colbert
and Colbert's son are making like the new Lord of the Rings films?
I'm so... That's actually really exciting.
Psyched. And what's his nuts? Peter Jackson is producing.
He's working with them on it. Yeah. Yeah.
It actually like sounds awesome. Yeah. Like Stephen Colbert is like a big lore nut.
Oh, and like... Big Tolkien guy. Actually though.
I know though. Yeah. Yeah.
Like imagine that. Imagine bringing in people who love the source material to adapt the source material.
What a crazy, stupid idea. Wow. Imagine paying for source material and then fucking throwing it away.
Like, isn't that insane? Yeah.
I don't know who would do that. Like you... Probably someone really dumb.
Did I just spit on you? I don't think so. Oh, okay.
No, I just... Oh, okay. Oh.
Yeah. I just hope he's good at making movies.
Well, I mean, I think Peter Jackson's making the movie. Peter Jackson's the producer.
I'm assuming him and his son are like the more executive producer role.
I'm not sure what their actual role is. I think they're involved in the writing.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Could be good. I have no idea. He's got the lore chops.
Isaac Fig Newton says, stop the new Star Wars hate.
Watch the old ones again in timeline order and the new ones are decent.
What are you talking about? Like the third Skywalker trilogy?
Because if you're talking about that, then... No.
I don't really know how to reconcile your opinion with reality.
Like I can... I'll yield on certain points.
Like I will... I'll admit the...
What was the second one? Last Jedi?
Right? I'll yield that's a good movie in that it's like...
It has all the pieces of a movie and they're kind of in the right order and stuff.
I personally disagree with some of the artistic choices.
I think there was way too much heroic self-sacrifice.
Like we're supposed to cry in the first five minutes when there's a heroic self-sacrifice
then there's yet another heroic self-sacrifice. Then there's that spectacularly stupid thing where Leia survives the vacuum of space for some reason.
That's the second movie? That's the second one, isn't it?
I don't remember them well enough to like take a stand.
I've only ever actually watched them once. They were so...
They were so bad. So there's people that are like, yeah, it's a good movie.
But even with those folks, we can agree that it's not a good Star Wars movie.
And when you're making Star Wars, you should probably make a good Star Wars movie.
Like it's pretty... It's pretty tough.
Linus clearly forgot about firehorses in space.
I did forget about firehorses. What are firehorses?
What? Firehorses in space.
I don't know. I don't remember. Is this a thing?
Is this a meme? I have no idea what this is about. Apparently the story treatments that Lucas had written, the first one of the sequel trilogy
would have been the first part of the trilogy, continuing the story of Luke as a Jedi.
The second one would have featured Luke's sister, distinct from Leia.
Interesting. And the next one after that would introduce the emperor and depict Luke's ultimate battle with him.
Wait, what? That sounds pretty stupid too, to be honest with you.
Leia is an isolated monarch, hence death.
These must be like ancient... Yeah, these are ancient story treatments from 1999.
Okay, these are not like the new one. Cool.
All they had to do was make the Thrawn trilogy and everyone would have...
Oh, that would have been so sick. Absolutely loved it. That would have been so sick.
That's all they had to do. They could have recast everyone.
They could have used the guy they casted for a solo story. Sure.
Like, totally. No problem. Easy.
Recast everyone, fresh new young actors for the sequel trilogy.
It's not like we had any returning actors other than Ian McDermid, or however you pronounce his last name,
from the original trilogy to the prequel, so it doesn't matter.
Cast new people, make that story.
People would have absolutely loved it. They would have bought so much Admiral Thrawn, blue face makeup, and it would have been amazing.
Thrawn is the coolest character in Star Wars, and I will fight you to defend that statement.
I like Obi-Wan. I didn't say you can't like other characters.
I said Thrawn is the coolest character in Star Wars.
He's pretty cool. He overcomes the racist empire because he's just that badass.
Is that like... Rises to the rank of Admiral.
Thrawn. Because there's more Thrawn books outside of the Thrawn trilogy, correct?
Yeah, but I don't know how much I like count them.
Okay. There's one that I really liked, and I just don't know if it's in the trilogy or not.
Sorry, Grand Admiral. Sorry, excuse me. Pardon me.
I just don't know if it's in the Thrawn trilogy or not, but there's one that I really do like...
I mean, he's such a cool character that they probably just like garbage put him in because, you know...
Or that they probably just put him in like garbage other stuff.
No, he's a super big part of this book, and it was a good book.
I just don't know if it was one of the books in the trilogy or not.
I'm not sure. Well, the Thrawn trilogy is Air to the Empire, Dark Force Rising and the Last Command.
Back from the early 90s when the expanded universe was cool.
It might be Air to the Empire. Would you remember plot points if I said plot points?
Probably not, because I read these back in like 1990s something.
Yeah, because I could throw some plot points, but I feel like it's been way too long.
Yeah. Yeah. But it's cool.
It's this like, basically...
I want to call it a duel, but it definitely wasn't a duel.
This like mysterious force from the outer rim of like aliens are trying to invade...
The outer rim? I'm going to get all my terminology wrong.
I'm not even bothered. I'm not sure, but the like clone evil version of the Jedi guy is super cool, like as a plot thing.
Also, okay, this one might be a controversial one, but I actually loved the Young Jedi Knights books.
I don't think I read those. I mean, that's fine.
I don't even care. I love them. I thought they were awesome.
I think that would have been a great TV show.
Yeah. The crazy clone stuff.
So there's Luke Skywalker and Joris Kabaoth or Sabaoth or however you pronounce that.
And they just have like an extra U in their name and they're like the evil cloned one.
It's crazy. Yeah. The one I'm thinking of chat is the one where I think it's like Han Solo takes over a imperial
like defense station that's orbiting a planet and he has to use it.
If I remember correctly to actually fight.
I think kind of both sides or more leaning on the side of the empire or something.
Oh, interesting. And that's happening while Thrawn is using his fleet to fight this like alien fleet and everything's all it's all like kind of everyone kind of playing their own game.
But the three different forces all playing in the same arena at the same time and trying to see what they can come out with.
And it's it's very interesting. And Thrawn's like eight D chesting everyone.
Nice. It's cool. It's a good book.
I just don't remember what it was. The police cage says for the first time I'm feeling this is drifting too nerdy for me.
Yeah. I mean, I'll be the first to admit that expanded universe Star Wars novels are not exactly the
most mainstream of nerd things, especially because it's pretty cool.
It's well, yeah, but it's been less cool for a long time because like Disney crapped all over it because reading is not cool.
Well, I do think that could be part of it.
I think it's pretty based to just decide that you get to kind of pick what your own personal canon is.
You can still recognize that it's not really what the canon is, but you can also be like, yeah, I'm going to decide these are the things I care about.
And then Star Wars can still be pretty cool. As long as you don't just make an AI canon, you have to, you have to, where's your line?
Where are you allowed to decide your canon is? I think you could write your own canon.
You can fanfic it. Oh, sure.
I wasn't even talking about that. But the second you use AI to generate it, I'm over you.
Yeah, sure. Okay. I was saying like you can selectively read and decide to ignore parts.
Can you write your own?
I wasn't thinking that far. I don't really think that works.
You don't think so? What if you write it down, bind it, and put it on a shelf?
Now it's a book. If you get it published officially, then sure.
Okay. What if you self-publish though? Then I could also see if it like...
Where's the line? Oh, man.
Do I care about other people's acceptance? Is I feel like what this question is?
I feel like if you can't openly discuss it and have people be able to figure out easily
and have them actually be likely to do so, what you're talking about, then it doesn't really count.
Okay. All right. Okay.
You know what? Yeah. Publishing a book would do wonders for your wiki.
My God. You know what? You're not wrong.
Oh, man.
Category draft.
He's still in draft.
Oh, draft talk.
Okay. Is your book on your wiki?
I doubt it actually. It's looking pretty blank. Looks like it didn't work.
Okay. Oh. No, no, this is you.
Never mind. Man, how often have they declined this?
Oh, wow. As recently as this month.
You don't show this person.
I think we can get you there. Okay.
How annoying must this be for Wikipedia maintainers?
The draft contains multiple published secondary sources.
Wait. The draft requires multiple published secondary sources.
Do I just need to call up someone at Tom's hardware to write an article about you?
Like to interview you? Because I feel like we could do that.
What's the real value of that?
I don't know. What's the value of a Wikipedia page?
But I don't care. I know, but that makes it funnier.
Oh, my God. I like it so much more that you don't care about it.
It's great. So then.
Is your book on your Wikipedia page? Then you can be next level cool because you can tell people, I have a Wikipedia page.
But I don't care about it. But I think if you go out of your way to tell people that you have one and also that you
don't care about it, I think you definitely do care. And you could walk away from an explosion at the same time.
Oh, man. Yeah. Can we get him?
It doesn't care.
I don't actually need that. I don't need that.
I don't think your book is on yours. I doubt it.
Yeah. Your book should be on yours. Yeah.
But nobody knows how many of them we sold.
Because we self-published it and sold them all through our own store.
So it's not that relevant. In fact, mine is kind of stupid.
No offense. I found a bunch of mistakes in it.
Actually, I think all the mistakes are fixed because I did a segment on WAN Show where
I talked through all the mistakes. But it also just like, I'm not really that relevant.
There's just kind of arbitrary random stuff in it that because no one can decide what
about me is important because none of it's that important.
He grew up on a hobby farm in Maple Ridge. Oh, good.
This is kind of my point as to why mine doesn't matter, though.
Yeah. But I still think we care.
It matters to me, Luke.
Maybe I don't want to host a podcast with someone who's not important enough to have a Wikipedia
page. Oh, my God.
Maybe you're dragging us both down. Maybe I don't want to.
Oh, my God. Maybe I don't want to host a podcast with someone with such a useless Wikipedia page.
Oh, no. My heart.
My heart.
I worked in bread factory. We just need to have that on there.
You could do a cookbook that just has the one recipe.
There's two. There's two. The 100% success part.
Hardcover with like one page in the middle of it.
This is the only recipe you need.
It sells itself. I would do that. I would do that for merch.
Oh, yeah. I would do that. 100%.
I would do the holiday soup, too, so you can look good to your family.
That would be the second book.
Each book is one page.
$60. I love that neither of them are actually recipes.
It's just going to be some amount of this.
It's like French cooking vibe. A satisfying amount of kale.
People would buy it. I know someone would buy it.
Okay. We should start the show. Let's start the show.
So is your kale? No. No, it's good.
You put it in the soup right before you serve it and then it has some.
It's good. It's good.
Wait. No, I'm going to run to the washroom before we start.
Okay. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
I'm sorry, everybody. I failed you all. Okay.
Bye. I left that on his Wikipedia page.
Yes. Oh, boy.
Dad. That was so funny.
Oh, oh, I hear gravel.
Do you hear gravel?
I heard gravel. Someone's behind you.
Is that anxiety inducing?
The feng shui of the Wansett is terrible, by the way, for anyone that's watching.
I'm going to turn your cam on. Oh, yeah, sure.
So where's, wait, where's Dan cam? Broad cam.
Broad cam. So those are doors.
So the feng shui of like producing a live show with doors right behind the producer
is horrible. It's so bad.
It's so terrible. When we're hosting this show, we can hear like everything around us.
Like somebody will open a door at the like other end of this unit.
It's so extremely. And we'll hear them come in.
We can hear people walking upstairs and we're in this like little box in the corner.
So we can hear people like orbiting around us.
And it's like, oh, are they going to, like your brain can't help, but be like, are they
going to come all the way around and like say hi or no?
And it pulls so much attention. The, yeah, it's, it's kind of rough.
It is what it is. I don't know where else we would put it.
That would be any better, but a new WAN location. Like, no, not really.
Do you hear me when I come in? Yeah, absolutely. I can even often identify people by their walk.
Can we turn it around? Yeah.
I mean, we hear literally everything. There is nothing.
There we go. There's nothing above the set.
That's just the ceiling. It's pretty bad.
And to be clear, the set, like the top of the set, you can see the top of the set there.
So the ceiling doesn't connect with the set. It's just, you see the sprinklers and things like that.
Yeah. Like we can't, we can't. Like there's that, that wood that you can see there is just where the set ends.
It doesn't touch the ceiling. There's like a, I don't know, five foot gap.
Maybe, maybe four, four foot something like that.
Something like that. And the, the panels here occasionally fall on you.
Yeah. You can see a lot of them are missing.
Yeah. But you see there's sprinklers and we can't have an enclosed building inside and that
sort of thing. It's like, thank you fire codes for keeping us safe.
Like my new shelves. I got new shelves. Nice shelves, dude.
Thank you. I miss. I like your shelves, bro.
Hell yeah. Brother. It looks like you clean the shelves too.
Yeah. I had to. There's less stuff.
I had to go through everything and get it returned to inventory and like, I did that around
my, my ShortCircuit. I shot a ShortCircuit on Monday.
Nice. Can you say what it was? Is it embargoed?
Probably. I think it is. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Anthropics. Claude can now control your computer. Isn't this an old topic?
Isn't this just open claw? I don't think it's a new research preview of Claude pro.
Okay. It's not. It was like, wasn't that third party?
Like some dude made it. Oh, I don't know.
That's kind of this is first party. They call it claw because it kind of sounded like Claude.
Full-plane chat question for you guys and twitch, I guess, but I can't see your chat.
So I'm still interested in what you have to say, but I don't have it open.
So anyways, um, tech wiki.
It's having a chat the other day about tech wiki and the things that should maybe be on
tech wiki. Um, since coming back, we did like the spooky Linux command, the most dangerous Linux command
slash, um, and then we had a USB, the last guy delivered need, but the USB video was
like two weeks ago. What?
I, so there's kind of two questions here. One considering it's called tech wiki are 10 and a half, 11 minute long videos too long
and second would like when open claw was a thing that people cared about talking about
would that have been a video like what the heck is open claw?
Would that have been a video you would have wanted to see on tech wiki?
Um, would what is an LLM have made sense?
Maybe now, maybe a few years ago, whatever, should we talk about these like currently
top of mind AI topics or should it stick more to hardware?
I had two questions going on.
What is an LLM isn't a 10 minute video?
I don't actually know what direction you mean that in. Um, I'm assuming you mean it can be shorter.
Something you have to understand is you could make what is an LLM and it have it be a six
hour long video.
Like the, the length is you can make content fit the length.
It's a fun random trick of, of YouTube and content creation is like it can really be
whatever length you want.
This information, there's a lot of information about what is an LLM would be great if it's
done properly, need a healthy balance.
Tech wiki can be both conventional topics and current news tech wikis.
And this is still quick, open claw and what is an alarm?
Huh? Would have been great questions to answer in their time.
Luke says length isn't important. No, what I'm saying is you can definitely be big enough.
I just need to know how big the thing that we're filling is.
You know what I mean?
The general popular big software of the day would be good.
Yeah, that's what I'm kind of wondering.
Kind of having a think on that.
Been wondering if I want to like pitch this internally or not.
I also think it makes some of it kind of easier because one of the problems over the years
with Tech wiki was like, man, we've explained what HDMI is already.
What do we do now?
But there's so many different models coming out and like so much stuff happening in software
or even at like the data center level that I think is pretty interesting.
I still want to know how they connect GPUs together.
I've never been able to learn how. NV Link, is that what you're talking about?
Yeah, but why can't I do that with my desktop GPU?
What is NV Link and why is it? No, no, specifically why does Image Gen like only work on one graphics card?
We definitely work in the data center. We'd need an interview for that, I think.
Yeah, I have no idea where to even find that information.
I think something people kind of maybe forget is that original Tech wikis were like five minutes long.
Like if I sort Tech wiki by oldest quick in their name.
The first video is a minute 50. The second video is two minutes and five seconds.
The third video is a minute 46. Yeah, what is a mouse?
Once you get a little bit further into it, it ends up being like three to six minutes for the most part.
Yeah, I talked to the new Tech wiki guys actually today.
And we're going to try to get it back down to like six and a half.
One of the things I was pitching to the audience was like, should we cover AI topics?
Like a Tech wiki on what is Open Claw actually probably would have been pretty nice.
Yeah, that's a good idea. I don't think it needs to be everything, you know, but like explaining these different models when they come out.
Like when DeepSeq releases their new model and the whole internet goes crazy about it.
We should probably have a like, why does DeepSeq matter video?
In general, just like with things kind of shifting away from hardware,
more towards software, having more software videos.
And I don't necessarily mean like the most dangerous Linux command explained.
I more mean like... I know, that video was what prompted the meeting I had today.
Because I was like, what is this? It's not a bad video.
I liked it. But it's not a Tech wiki.
Not a Tech wiki. But anyway, I did enjoy watching it.
And like I appreciated the team like taking the initiative and like, you know, getting something going.
Because for a long time there was nothing going.
But we kind of sat down today and like went through the most popular videos, the most recent ones,
the oldest ones and we went, okay, what's a Tech wiki and what's not.
And there were a few of like very, very popular ones that we looked at and we went,
that's not a Tech wiki. Or at least it's not a Tech wiki anymore.
Do you have the popular ones up? Yeah.
I can show you what I mean. So the one that we decided was, was a Tech wiki when we made it,
but isn't anymore is how does Netflix work?
And the reason for that is that eight years ago,
there might be a question of like, what is a media streaming platform?
Or what are the benefits of a media streaming platform versus a Blu-ray?
I'm pretty sure I worked with John on this and this was actually like really cool.
But today we take the idea, there is no technology explanation for streaming
that I think a technical user needs to hear.
We sort of fundamentally understand the idea of encoding video and streaming it over the internet.
Whereas that was a conversation at that time.
And then something that we agreed is not a Tech wiki and never was,
even though it got a lot of views as the wise Windows for you now.
That's not a Tech wiki. It's a good idea for a video, but maybe that's an LTD.
Yeah, exactly. And so how much RAM do you actually need was another one that sort of straddles the line.
If we were going to put in the work to actually test it, it's an LTD.
If we're just theory crafting it, it's a Tech wiki.
But with the kind of resources that we have these days,
what's our excuse for not testing something like that? It's an LTD and we just do the work.
So we kind of went through and defined what makes something a Tech wiki
and what makes something not a Tech wiki.
And so I think we've got pretty good alignment and it should be something that we'll continue to work on moving forward.
I mean, everything has a thousand moving pieces
and you can't move one without something above it falling down.
And so it can be really, we've become a pretty big ship
and we recognize that we need to dramatically increase our agility.
If you can read and understand numbers.
It takes time. If you'll know that we got to make some change.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
But what's a YouTube short? Thanks, Sammy. I think no one needs that explained to them.
Love it.
I don't know. Sammy makes those.
Trab says, for those genuinely wondering this,
but who aren't informed, wouldn't those videos be pretty good for them?
But a quick video that would be better on LTD.
I mean, yeah, maybe just because a topic isn't a Tech wiki doesn't mean it's not a video.
And I think LTD can be sort of a catch-all for things that might not fit the Tech wiki format.
And if it's like too quick, then it could be a short.
Absolutely. To go along with Sammy. The Sammy shorts have been freaking killing it.
On Tech wiki even. Yeah. So like, that's not necessarily a problem.
We need long form content because you make a lot more mula from the ads and stuff on long form.
It's not just make a lot more mula. It's like shorts, unless you're selling something are not financially viable for a media organization like us.
If you're an individual person, then absolutely.
I think you can make it work. But if your hope is that you're just going to use like adsense and you're going to have like a media company with shorts,
it's going to be pretty, it's going to be pretty tough.
There are lots of really creative ways that people are monetizing shorts outside of adsense.
But, you know, those ways are not really like the ways that were built, at least not today.
I mean, it is not inconceivable if the world moves to just people only watch shorts that the media side of our business could dramatically change.
And, you know, we just make shorts where we feature water bottles and screwdrivers and hoodies or whatever and do, you know,
checktips and are pretty much a products company that just, you know, has a guy that also makes short form video.
Like nothing's impossible. And we've been lucky that this space that we occupy has been so steady, as steady as it has been for the last 12, 13 years.
Like it could have been more tumultuous.
Before YouTube, it was more, there was more seismic shifts.
Yeah. I kind of lost it.
No. No, I think you've still got it, Luke.
I don't know. No. No.
Charge. Wait, what? My doesn't know button says doesn't have a Wikipedia page.
No, Dan, I want my doesn't know back.
Oh, man. Sorry, sorry. Charge Nuclear, I said that would just be a commercial.
I try to avoid shorts kind of as much as I can, but the last time I was on there,
half of them were just steak gambling ads wrapped in a short video.
But there you go. You know, I think that's kind of what they are just as heads up.
Another one, Blake Maverick said shorts are a lot of them just are undisclosed sponsorships.
That's like very rampant on shorts just to be clear.
Yeah. And it almost seems like it's inherent to the format because it would take too long to disclose it.
It takes time to disclose a sponsorship. Like people get weirded out that I, that I call out a sponsorship.
Like when I'm, when I'm doing those Q&A ones and I'm like this, it's sponsored by Mexico.
And I like, I do a proper disclosure. People are like, what the fuck?
The line is just sponsored all over the place even on shorts.
I'm like, bro, the difference is amount of them are the difference is not that I'm sponsored.
The difference is that a lot of what you're seeing is not disclosed.
It's, it's weird that it's now. Yeah.
Anyways, Blake Mavericks also said shorts are a trailer slash preview for the whole channel.
And I know that was a talking point, potentially even one that we've made in the past.
That is not how that works anymore for us. That is not how that works anymore for most people because so the audience is almost split.
People will come on to YouTube to watch shorts or people will come on to YouTube to watch VODs or people will come on to YouTube.
And their app will just fart a short watch for immediately in their face.
And then it's not super natural to go from shorts to VODs.
So like YouTube is actually not doing a good job of making that a funnel if they even want to.
And I suspect they like might not.
Crystal says the difference is you don't take the bribe money to not disclose actually not how it works.
Yeah. So people have a lot of misunderstandings about how sponsorships work in social media.
I'd love to do like a deeper dive on something like this.
Maybe, you know, when we have Linus financial tips, hold on, do I have a not financial advice button?
No, I don't. You know, whatever, like LTT is not the right format for it.
But I'd love to do a deeper dive on it someday and just kind of talk about it because people have a lot of really weird misunderstandings about how sponsorships work.
Like they'll see a video where we, where we, you know, ultimately recommend a product but are quite critical of the parent company, for instance.
And they'll go like, oh, give it a positive review. This is so sponsored.
It's like no brand would allow you to say anything like that, that, that, that, that and that in a sponsored video.
And you are absolutely insane if you think that they would like you just clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
And, you know, as for, as for brands wanting you not to disclose it for the most part, that's not actually true.
I don't see that. A lot of overseas brands do not properly understand the disclosures that are mandated by law in most of the West.
But the ones that do understand it actually have in their contract that you must disclose it.
Because what a lot of people don't know is that the liability actually falls on the sponsoring brand, not on the influencer themselves for an undisclosed sponsorship,
which to me is, is made sense back when that law was put in place and I'm talking like the American side of it.
But these days I'm actually not sure if that does make sense because it has put us in a position where influencers are not disclosing sponsorships
and as long as brands aren't chasing them and making sure that they're compliant, they're just not disclosing sponsorships
and there's no consequences whatsoever.
And it's just, like you said, I think you just use the word rampant to describe the situation on shorts, right?
Mildly correct says people think this because that's how others treat their sponsors.
Do you think everyone on YouTube treats sponsors like you do?
No, I don't. I understand that we have kind of a big to swing around in terms of how we negotiate with sponsors.
Like I remember chatting with a smaller creator who was out here visiting to do a collab a little while back
and I basically was like, hey, you should not be signing this exclusivity agreement.
I strongly advise you not to sign this exclusivity agreement, especially for such a long term.
Like it was, I forget how many years it was, but it was way too long.
And I was like, look, like you guys are going to grow your channel.
I think you guys are really smart. I think that you're really charismatic.
I think your content's great. I don't see a future where you guys are not growing like crazy.
And this is a fixed rate for this very long period of time that significantly impedes your ability to talk about other brands that are highly relevant to your content niche.
I really don't think you should do this. And you don't know what they're going to do in that year.
You have no control over that external company in the years of really long time.
But ultimately they decided to take the deal and the rationale that they gave me.
Well, not that they like owed me an explanation or anything, but we were chatting about it after the fact and they were like, well, it gives us the peace of mind.
And you know, you got to understand that not everybody is able to go to a brand and simply say no.
And this is like an overseas brand, which sometimes they don't have the same, you know, norms and the same understanding as more Western brands
who are used to working with more Western influencers.
So it's complicated.
It's complicated. Yeah, we should resume the selected tabek. Let's do that.
And yes, there are rules about when you're supposed to disclose it.
No, it's not supposed to be at the end.
But it is better than just not at all, which it seems like a massive amount of creators are doing these days, especially on shorts have always done.
I think the I think it's a lot higher on shorts personally.
Mm hmm. Oh, I thought you clicked it. I heard your mouse click right after he said go for it.
And I was like, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do it.
Did you say two double confirms? Yes. Is that four confirms or two confirms?
Shoot bi-weekly. Which one? That's every two weeks.
Wait, no, no, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Is is twice a year.
So by annually is every two years. So it must be every two weeks.
Right. Is it bi-weekly every two weeks?
I think so. Do you even know the answer?
You're quizzing me and you don't know the answer.
Two weeks every two weeks or twice a week.
That's the dictionary definition. That's brutal.
Is it a week that can go in either direction?
Yes.
I won't let your cushion back.
What's up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show.
Okay, seriously though, you need to calm down for a second.
Because we have a huge show this week.
And you know how we've been talking about the idea of a good news WAN Show?
Yeah. We're easing ourselves into it. Okay.
April is going to be good news WAN Show month. Okay.
If it's not good news, it's not going to be in the WAN Show.
What if it's extremely important news? If it's extremely important news, we could maybe have a single car vote.
It's just on TechLinked. Single car vote or we could do an extremely important bad news WAN Show for the first WAN Show in May.
We should bring back the really, really dark scene for the single car vote bad news thing.
We could do that. We could do that. Then people can easily skip it.
It's going to be a month of good news WAN Show and we're going to be starting with some pretty freaking good news today.
Sora is dead.
That's right. Open AI just flipping, flipped the switch.
It's gone. We're going to be talking about that.
Also in some mixed news, Meta and Google were found liable in a landmark social media addiction trial.
We'll get into it a little bit more depth later, but for starters, $3 million in damages to the plaintiff.
And that may just be the tip of the iceberg.
What else we got? Or the Zuckerberg. Oh, I wish I thought of that the first time.
Zuckerberg's tip. Anyways, wine 11 is a game changer in potentially some actually really cool ways and we have a double jeopardy here.
Bigger battle mage has arrived and Crimson Desert is apparently finally supporting Intel GPUs.
No one knows why they didn't, but anyways.
That was a really f***ed up thing for you to say. What?
Zuckerberg's tip. Why would I want to think about that?
Hahaha.
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Let's jump right into our headline topic today, which is Sora is dead long live spud.
On Tuesday, OpenAI announced the demise of the video generation app and API that was front and center in a billion dollar licensing deal with Disney just a few months ago.
A deal which is also coming to an end according to the Hollywood Reporter.
OpenAI is also scaling back some of ChatGPT's shopping features as they shift their focus to business and productivity tools, apparently codenamed spud, as they continue down the path towards an initial public offering.
It is not clear whether the core model will be folded into another model, preserved in some way, or just outright discarded as they walk away from Sora video generation.
Let's talk a little bit about, to start, the technical side of a video generation service and why that might not be economically viable like ever.
It could be.
Okay. For sure. It could be, but.
Yeah. Two individual end users, I think that's going to be a tough sell.
I mean, there's been a theory craft that like, you know, fast forward hopefully a lot of years and political campaigns could be custom tailored per person.
Okay. But again, that's a B2B use case.
That's not a consumer use case because it's all about who's paying for, yeah, it's about who's paying for the token because at the end of the day, OpenAI has to figure out and they really don't have a lot of time right now.
What a business model for their product is going to look like.
Did individual users pay for tokens for on Sora?
Is that how that worked? My understanding is that.
I only used it once for that video Riley and I did. Yeah, my understanding is that you would pay for tokens if you want to generate video on it.
Yeah, that's a little weird. The thing that I suspect could eventually happen is if the platform is trying to generate videos that draw you in.
Like there's been some people raising alarm bells about how this could be a direction for YouTube where YouTube stops being, well, maybe it starts embracing the name even more.
And it ends up being content that they're generating for you based on your viewing habits and eventually there are no really creators.
It's just platforms making content for you as a user.
I could see viability there, but yeah, I mean, I never really understood the business model of Sora making any sense and I don't think anyone else really did either.
I don't know a single person who actually really used it beyond the first few days.
I mean, to me what it was was simply a marketing stunt.
It was a billboard. I mean, they clearly didn't do the groundwork ahead of time to deal with the licensing issues that they were obviously going to have with it.
They kind of patched together that deal with Disney.
I believe that wasn't the only deal they made. They also worked with some influencers to get permission to use their likeness.
So they generated a bunch of buzz that way, but I heard and I don't know how true this is.
How much was Sora costing per day?
Let me see if I can find a credible number, but from my understanding it was costing anywhere from hundreds of thousands of dollars to as much as millions of dollars per day.
Hold on a second. Where is this from?
Yeah, I've got this post on Reddit that has zero upvotes, so I think I'm going to just not quote anything from that.
That's what I was on as well. But CBC reports that an analyst, okay, sure, here we go.
I will, oh my god, okay.
Where's the article?
Oh, there it is. I'm going to derail this a little bit.
I'm going to derail this a little bit. We're going to come back to it for a second.
Sorry, Noki, time stamp guy. You're just going to have to kind of work with me here.
I have a confession to make.
You ad blocking? I installed Brave on my phone yesterday for the explicit purpose, for the express purpose of blocking an ad from a page.
This is the first time. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them.
Outside of content. We got them. I have engaged in web ad blocking.
How's the hat feel? I mean, hypocritical, right?
Because that's the whole reason that we have the policies we have internally here.
That's the whole reason that I don't use it is because as someone whose business is supported by ads in a not insignificant way,
it would have felt very hypocritical for me to block ads personally or for our business to block ads.
However, I had, and I kid you not, I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true.
I had no choice, Luke.
I was forced to block ads. Was it one of those links that effectively, if you click it, it just doesn't work unless you have an ad blocker?
I'm going to see if I can find the right link.
Yeah, this is the one. So I'm going to open this link in Chrome here real quick.
And I'm going to show you what I'm talking about. It's an article I was trying to read on Electric.
I don't know how well you guys are going to be able to see this here.
But here's the article. Tesla is not in fact operating an autonomous vehicle service.
And I wanted to read the comments on this.
You know what a fan of comments I am.
Yeah, here it is. It's still, oh, no, no.
Okay, so it's fixed now, but it's not fixed because they fixed it.
It's fixed because the size of this banner ad is not as wide as the one that I had.
So when I opened up this article yesterday, I was getting a banner that was so wide that it covered part of the first comment here.
Okay, just like this one and extended all the way to cover the expand button.
So I couldn't click. So tall? I couldn't.
Yeah, it was taller. And to see the comment section, I literally could not interact with the website in order to use it.
That's pretty sick. Without engaging an ad blocker.
Freakin' irritating anyway. On that note.
Okay, back to this CBC article. One moment, please.
Let me just... Oh, okay. Oh, wow.
One of them disappeared. Right, right, right, right, right.
So yeah, CBC. Hold on. Dollar sign.
Where are we at? The platform was also, by some accounts, an expensive flop.
In November, one analyst suggested it cost open AI about $1.30 US to generate a 10-second video.
That actually doesn't sound that crazy. Based on the 11.3 million daily videos, he estimated this would cost the company about $15 million a day.
And that's a number that's kind of hard to pin down because how much of your video generation cost is your fixed cost
and how much of it is your variable cost? Yeah, yeah.
How much of it is the infrastructure that you had to build?
GPUs that are already sitting there. In order to accommodate the volume of tokens, the volume of requests you're getting,
and then how much of it is the actual energy of that actual video generation task that you did.
And it's hard to decide how much of that fixed cost you amortize across how many of your variable cost individual engagements, right?
So it's going to be hard for us to say for sure.
But what I think we can say with certainty is that it was flipping expensive to run with, as far as I can tell, no model to profitability.
Because you've talked extensively in the past about how expensive it is to run a video hosting platform, right?
Yeah. And you know what's funny is, and this is going to kind of, this kind of turns the whole idea of AI being an efficiency booster
and a cost saver sort of on its head. But let me kind of, let me kind of present it this way.
YouTube has all of the challenges of hosting a video platform, right?
Whether we're talking VOD or short form or live streaming, you've got to deal with all the encoding.
You've got to deal with all the storage. You've got to deal with all the bandwidth.
But YouTube has an army, a literal army of free labor.
Yeah. Or at least not free commission labor.
Yeah, like skimmed. So they will be making money the more of them there are.
Yes. But the humans who are uploading content to the YouTube platform that nobody watches, well, hey, the bandwidth cost is nothing.
They do have to store it. That kind of blows. And storage isn't getting like cheaper in the marching way that it used to.
No. So there are still things that kind of blow about that.
But hey, they didn't pay anybody to make the content.
So all they have to do is apply their quality filter and algorithm and there's a path to a profitable platform there.
Whereas on Sora, they had to pay for every single piece of content, no matter how good or how bad it was.
On top of any encoding and bandwidth and storage.
I mean, YouTube is already unassailable without them having to pay whether it's a buck 30 or whether it's 13 cents.
Whatever it is per generated video on the platform, they ain't paying for it unless it makes money, unless it generates revenue.
So yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty clear that it was, it was a showcase for their latest video generation model.
And what they're going to do with that, I don't know, because they, yeah, like just going straight pay to play straight B2B is obviously something that they could do.
But to your point, you know, how big is the market going to be for that?
And something we haven't even talked about yet is how much competition is there going to be there?
Not even like right at that time, like at that time, like, oh, AI social media platforms thing, those were, those were, those were a big deal, right?
Okay, I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out how much it would cost for the YouTube and Twitch live viewership of this show right now.
Oh, we're still, we're still kind of building up, but there's like 5,200 on YouTube and about 1,800 ish on Twitch.
So let's say that's 7,000.
Sure, let's say that. Hours streamed, we've been doing like four, I think.
We did over four hours last week. I totally didn't realize what was going on until the show was over.
I looked and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's crazy.
Let's say, I don't know if we're advanced to HD or just standard.
I'm not sure.
Do you want me to do something while you're doing that? Yeah, I can show it right now.
So we're doing low latency, which I believe it is on YouTube and Twitch right now.
We're not even looking at chat, but we're doing one channel, channel type.
I'm just doing standard. I'm not actually 100% sure what the differences between these are.
Full HD, 1080p, because I think I'm pretty sure we are streaming that.
Four hours streamed, 7,000 viewers. This tends to go up over the course of the show,
but let's just keep it where it is for now. And the cheapest area for viewership generally of North America,
and it's still 2,000 USD. That's wild.
Wait, shut up. That's live streaming. Live streaming is expensive.
We don't pay that much for every Floatplane WAN Show stream, do we?
Well, there's not that many viewers on Floatplane. Right, right.
Oh, God. There is a decent of viewers on Floatplane, but that's the IVS calculator.
So like, and obviously you're going to, you're going to start getting like volume
discounts and stuff. But as far as my understanding goes, like kick is running through IVS.
Yeah. Which has always been a really interesting part of that whole,
because IVS is, you know, parent company of Twitch, you know,
they're 730 chatters on Floatplane, but the chatters menu also doesn't count perfectly because there's different
forms of ad blocking that can block that.
And we've never bothered to like do the work to make sure that that's 100% accurate.
Right. Because it doesn't matter that much. What's the value in that?
Yeah, it's just like not, there are so many,
you guys let us know for sure every single week.
There are like so many things that we could be working on that are probably
more valuable than that. We are trying to get things like TV app and other things out.
It's taking time, but they're coming. All right.
Let's just highlight as we move out of the Sora discussion,
the time that Luke and Riley tried Sora and played around with it last October.
That is over at LMG.GG slash Floatplane.
That's a pretty fun little exclusive over there.
All right. Dan.
The paper says headline topic, but we're done that.
I don't know what to do. You know what? Actually, I'm lost and confused.
I think I do know what we're going to do. More topics.
No. Okay. I'll take the paper down.
There's going to be, there's going to be so... Why do I bother? There's going to be so many topics today, Dan.
But first I need to... Where are we doing more? Where is it?
What are you doing? I need to do the CW announcements today.
Oh, it's like right at the top. I know. I can find it.
It always is. Listen. Can you bring up the new product?
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I don't know if that's super clear.
Scroll down, scroll down.
It's a very long description. My eyes are going kind of blurry.
Product information. There you go. Product information should be above the other one.
Maybe. Or it should be like in the title or something?
Yeah. Yeah, we could probably do that.
I was not the only one that questioned that. Yeah, okay.
Good to know. Good to know. Nice.
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It's pretty cool. We're going to be working on doing a lot more of this kind of stuff, putting in some more
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I've learned so much just working with the Creator Warehouse team over the years.
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is picking up something, either the flexible magnetic cable arches or something from the tax write-off sale.
All you have to do, oh shoot, the mystery screwdrivers are apparently sold out.
So, well, anyway, going to the hoodie, we apparently have smalls in stock still.
All you have to do is add something to your cart. Say, I would like my purchase to appear as a checkout message.
It will show your first and last name, or it can be anonymous if you prefer.
You type up something and you click, boop-dee-bop-dee, check out.
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Dan, do you have any? Should we just do them now? Let's do them now. Let's do one now.
Sure. That's all I got. Hi, specifically Luke.
It's an interesting name for Luke. Anyway, I like it.
Specifically Luke. Yeah, it's pretty good. Not Lucas.
Yeah. Not Lucaniel. Not Lucaziah.
Maybe that one. Just Luke. Luke-aziah would be okay.
Actually, I like just Luke, too. Specifically Luke is a good nickname.
Just Luke it. Dear God.
Okay, sorry. I'm going to call you that from now on.
Anyway, what happened to the hype around the 9070 XT?
I love mine, but everyone kind of makes me wish I got a 5070 Ti.
Also, I will pay hundreds for a black shaft screwdriver.
I mean, I think it's just like classic NVIDIA bias where just like, I mean, having what is it,
95% market share is going to make people.
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's necessarily that you like made a bad choice or anything like that.
It's just, look at that. Look at that.
Wow. So if people are going to talk about cards, it's probably going to be the cards that
they have. And if 95% of people have that card, it doesn't even specify the card.
Wow. There's AMD Radeon TM graphics and there's also AMD Radeon graphics.
I think these are on board. Yeah.
I think these are both like. One of them is not trademarked. On board ones.
So you have to go all the way down to bazillionth place to find a single AMD discrete GPU.
It's a generation old and they're looking at less than 1% of the market.
Yeah. Of steam gamers.
Then you got to go a generation older and more mainstream, newer mainstream.
How far do we have to go to find a 90 something XT, last gen flagship at 0.5%.
Oh, fall into 0.27% of gamers.
Whoopsie doodles. And like it's actually very surprising.
Vega 8. Hell yeah.
It's above the 90s.
Did I miss it? I don't think so.
I didn't see it. You might have, but I didn't see it.
Yeah. So like, and it's like just like a lot of things.
It's kind of a chicken and egg problem to a certain degree where a lot of people are
just buying NVIDIA and that kind of informs the pre-build market.
A lot of the pre-build market is only really serving NVIDIA GPUs because of that.
But then a very surprising for me and likely for you because you seem to be in the community
of people that's building their own computers, a massive amount of people buy pre-builds
like way more than I ever would have thought.
It's a huge market actually.
Even from brands that you might traditionally think of as DIY.
Like hardcore. Like MSI apparently is like, I don't know if this is on the record or not.
Well, whatever I'm going with it. What's Cliff going to do? Yell at me.
MSI is apparently just like slaying it as a system integrator.
Yeah. And like, I mean, yeah, it makes sense, right?
It's not like they don't have motherboards and GPUs.
So like what? They could sell you a motherboard and a GPU or hear me out.
Here you go.
It's just obvious. It just works. It's kind of funny that the hard part is RAM now.
But normies are scared of building their computers.
I think that's part of it. I think an actually really surprising amount of it is people just don't want to bother.
Like I experienced this for the first time kind of as I was ending my time working at
like Best Buy and stuff like that where there was a buddy of mine who was one of my supervisors
at Best Buy who had moved on and was doing a more advanced job now.
And we were chatting. He was talking about how he was going to, he was going to get a computer built by NSEAX.
NSEAX had a cool service where it wasn't, it was pre-built, but you could configure it
yourself and then they'd build it for like 50 bucks or something. It was 50 bucks for a long time.
In fact, I think you could get it as cheap as 25 if you used the old classic PC builder
interface where we didn't even bother putting together like recommended configs for you.
Okay. Like 25 bucks for someone to build a computer and they did a pretty good job.
And they tested it. It was warrantied if I remember correctly. They made sure everything worked and they give you a one year warranty on the system as
a whole. Yeah. And they treated the sale like a parts sale.
So a lot of hardware manufacturers will actually give you a different warranty for your parts
if it was through a system integrator.
So NSEAX would give you an invoice for all your individual parts and all the boxes and
packaging and accessories. And then there would be another line item for the build.
That just says PC build service or something like that.
So what that means is two and a half years down the line when your NSEAX PC warranty is
up, you can contact ASUS and get a new motherboard if you are so inclined.
Yeah. So like I actually knew quite a few people who ended up just going that route.
I knew people that had gotten computers built by me and then were like, well, like you're
busy. I didn't want to bother you. And it was like 50 bucks.
So I just did that. And it was like, okay. So like I ended up knowing a lot of people who were technical and would have been very
comfortable building their own computer, but just kind of had a lot of other stuff going
on and they needed a new computer. It's 50 bucks.
And there's so many things like that. I think it's easy for us to be in our bubble where we go, I'm so passionate about this
thing and I legitimately enjoy it. Why would anybody pay someone else to do it for them?
And we forget about all the other things in our lives that we're just not that passionate
about and we just don't feel like dealing with. Like it took me, this is an embarrassing amount of time, but I had a leak in the differentials
and a leak in the shocks and I broke the skid plate on this RC car.
13 years ago and just, just didn't get around to fixing it because I bought it as a kit
from Arma and so I didn't piece it together.
I didn't know exactly, you know, what the standard of the particular brushed motor is
and I'd never actually installed the differential in the first place.
So I didn't even know how to like get at it and open it.
And I didn't even know exactly where all the ceiling O-rings were in the shocks.
Like I didn't, I just, I didn't, I'd never put it together.
So I didn't understand how it went together. And that barrier of not knowing exactly what to Google in order to find the answer that
you need was high enough that I just, it just sat in my garage for years and years and years.
Avon Fox says, never put your toys away broken, use this mantra for everything.
This may surprise you, but the last nine years have been pretty busy for me.
Yeah. Sometimes you don't really have that, that luxury Peter pointed out like taxes.
I actually think that's a really good, but you know, a little bit more dramatic comparison
of like, I could do my taxes. I get my taxes done by an accountant these days just because I don't want to worry about
it. Yeah. What if I do something wrong?
Yeah. A kind of really rather, it just didn't go wrong.
Sometimes the stakes are so much higher than the cost.
It's the risk reward calculation, right? Yeah.
Cheaper not to pay them. Yeah.
Speaking of not paying, someone else said it's $50 plus $100 for Windows.
I'm pretty sure NCX would let you build the computer on the computer configurator without
Windows. They did. They built Windows to test with and they would just take it out.
And then they nuked the Windows install. Yeah. So like, no, actually you didn't have to do that.
NCX was kind of based in some ways. There were some ways that, you know, look, I've made it very clear.
I didn't agree with some of the direction they were going for the business.
I've also made it very clear that just because they listened to me would not have necessarily
meant success. They were headed into a very challenging landscape with Amazon coming hard at Canada
and New Egg doing the same. But there were some things about NCIX that were pretty cool.
I had no other computer shop that I can imagine would have let me come in on a weekend, borrow
their known good working hardware to troubleshoot my computer so that I could buy whatever replacement
part I needed. Like, that was crazy and they were just, they had a pretty, yeah, let's make it work kind
of culture within the rigid confines of their policies.
Sure. Yeah. I think the best way that I could probably put it.
Yeah. And so it's, I don't know, I understand.
It is frustrating. I do think this is a big part of the reason why we have 95% market share on NVIDIA and
like, I'm pretty sure zero for Intel, which is why we keep talking about the graphics
cards because we're trying to help them. Hey, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding,
is it time for- Is this a proper topic? Our weekly Intel ARC B580 MSRP check.
We haven't done this in a long time. Well, listen, I suppose-
It's not really weekly anymore. It's bi-weekly. So thank you for that, Dan.
I got a call back in. All right.
What do we got here? An Asrock Challenger for 300, Steel Legends 309.
Okay. We've got an Onyx Lumie ARC for 289.
Do we get any bonuses with it? Do we get any games or anything like that?
We don't. We don't.
40 bucks over MSRP. Okay.
All right. Well, in the midst of the rampocalypse, we can no longer get an ARC B580 for MSRP, but
there is a silver lining. There's an OpenBox Asrock Challenger, final sale, non-refundable.
That's for 259. So it's there, OpenBox product disclaimer.
How scary is this thing? Oh my God.
Why wouldn't you just link me to it in the first place? Why you make me click two things?
Previously open and unused and...
Usually do not come with a warranty.
However warranty may be available if it was never registered by the previous owner.
That's the... Accessories may or may not be included, can be pretty sketch for certain products.
Like, if it didn't come with the I.O. shield for a motherboard, I'd be pretty cheesed.
Yeah, I'd be pretty irritated by that too. With a GPU, I'd say there's not too many accessories I really need.
Oh yeah, that's fair. Oh, 289, that's a downer, but I also can't go too hard at Onyx or at Intel given the
current state of things and the fact that that is a 12 gig GPU for 289 and you sure
as heck are not getting anything with 12 gigs for that cheap from anyone else.
If Intel is listening, if you guys could somehow flip the script, there's going to be a topic
in here about how Crimson Desert didn't support Intel cards.
We'll talk about that more in the future and how it does now.
But if you want to flip the script on that, it could be really interesting considering
it does now. Get it optimized a little bit and then bundle it.
That'd be crazy. To take it from like it didn't work at all to it's now bundled with the card I think
would be really cool. It's crazy. I'd love that.
And I think Crimson Desert, Steam, Intel now, yes, I was totally born in 1983 on January
1st. Yeah, it's very positive. People seem to like it.
I haven't played it, but 83% positive.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah, it's impressive.
Yeah. All right, cool. For a while, a 5060 with only eight gigs of VRAM is $370.
So Arc B580 is still looking like a pretty spectacular value.
If you buy one, I think we have an affiliate code. I always forget what it is.
Is it just LMG.gg slash new egg? Floatplane chats got me.
Thanks Floatplane Chat. What did they say though? I didn't see it.
Yeah, LMG.gg slash new egg. Nice.
All right, should we jump right into a new topic? Yeah.
Routers? Actually, I want to go with some good news.
Can we do some good news? Can we do some good news? Let's do some good news.
Do you want to do some medium news? Nope. I want to do good news.
Wine 11 looks like an absolute flipping game changer.
And the timing of this, right in the midst of Linux challenge, while we're talking about
it, did you see that Reddit thread on the LTT subreddit this week?
Someone's like, I decided to do the Linux challenge alongside Linus, Elijah, and Lidia.
Yeah, I saw that too. Not going back. Really cool.
All right. The first time wine 11, so wine is short for wine is not an emulator.
It's the foundation of Proton and running x86 games on Linux, anywho, wine 11 uses NTSync,
a wine specific implementation of the NTSynchronization primitives, mutex, semaphores, events, et cetera,
that are baked deep into the Windows kernel that are relied upon to keep the various threads
of modern, multi-threaded applications, particularly games, coordinated.
Up until now, wine and, by extension, Proton have utilized eSync and fSync, which were
clever workarounds that were developed by Elizabeth Figuerra at CodeWeavers, which had some issues
and it's not her fault. But were a massive jump.
But they had some challenges because they just weren't deep enough.
With NTSync, Figuerra abends the approach of trying to replicate Windows behavior with
existing Linux primitives and instead introduces a new kernel driver now, going kernel, baby,
that directly models the NTSynchronization API and exposes a slash dev slash NTSync device
for wine to talk to. These new features have already been in use in some distros, including Bazite, but beginning
with kernel 6.14, the changes have been merged into the mainline Linux kernel, meaning that
users of more mainstream distributions won't have to go out of their way to benefit from
the new code. Awesome. Now, for many changes, for many games, this is going to be a small or even completely
insignificant change, but for some games, particularly heavily multi-threaded games,
the impact is pretty impressive. Dirt 3 is highlighted here.
That's ridiculous. Went from 110.6 to 860.7 frames per second.
Tiny Tina's Wonderlands jumped from 130 to 360 and some previously unplayable games outright
like Cod Black Ops 1 are now playable.
In other wine news, Wine 11 now has its own complete implementation of WoW64.
So that's Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit.
The subsystem that allows 32-bit and even 16-bit Windows applications to run on 64-bit
systems without needing multi-lib packages.
That is so cool. There's a bunch of other smaller updates and tweaks that all come together to make the
experience of Windows gaming on Linux the best it's ever been.
And you can check out Dan, do you want to throw the link to the XDA developer's article
that brought this to our attention in the various chats?
Another thing that feels fantastic... Wow, voice crack. That feels fantastic about this.
I am really excited to vote on Wine 11.
Another thing that's really exciting about this is you seem to be cursed in regards
to timing, right? There was the weird steam bug the first time, and then there was the whatever, I don't know,
I don't follow POPOS, but that thing with the desktop environment that happened this
time. Cosmic. This is the first time, I think, that the timing has actually been really good.
Yeah. Because this has happened... Okay, we're saying we're in the middle of the Linux challenge.
I think we're over 30 days. Okay.
Yeah, but I'm... I noticed you were still running it on your laptop.
I saw that when we were setting up for the show.
I'm clearly still Linux-pilled right now.
I know at this point, I really, really don't see myself going back to Windows on my laptop.
I had to use Windows, I had to. Use Windows on someone else's system recently, and it was very icky.
You rage out about it, like just about every week before we start the show on this machine.
Yeah. Yeah. Cos, like, something will happen.
Like, some AI thing will reinstall itself or...
Recall is back on here after Dan scrubbed Recall off the system.
It's like, right now, it's running okay. I don't know how it's using 50% of its RAM.
That's insane, but it's not going crazy with the fans.
It was previously because of failing to install Windows updates, but it's just kind of...
There's ads, there's little pop-ups all over the place, they're just kind of annoying.
So at this point, I'm not having any problems with my laptop, and it's actually been more
productive to have Linux installed. I've spent less time fiddling with my operating system with Linux installed than with Windows.
So there's no way I'm going back on my laptop. I still have issues.
The Teams for Linux, like that weird web app thing, mostly works really great.
My webcam is still not working, but that's a separate issue.
Is it working in other applications? No.
But Teams for Linux is just... It doesn't allow me to click a link, and then just open in my browser.
If I click a link in here, it just doesn't do anything.
Oh, that's strange. I have not.
Yeah. So there's definitely... But I mean, realistically, is it that much work to right-click, copy link, and then I
can paste and go?
It is an extra step, though. It was a few extra steps, but you know what I didn't have to do is reaffirm for the umpteen
billionth time. No, I don't want this to open an edge. No, I do not, in fact, want this to open an edge.
So it's not even necessarily that much less clicking.
Like, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't, right?
So I might as well be damned in my own way.
Yeah. You know? Peter has a take here.
Peter from Flow Plane says, my personal take is personalization is a red herring.
A proper Linux system just works, and there's no need to tinker.
That's a big part of what I'm talking about when it comes to my laptop.
I have Linux Mint running on my laptop, and I've had to do nothing.
Everything has just worked. It gets out of my way. The updates are really easy, easy to deal with, unproblematic.
There's no, like, are you sure you want to not save this to OneDrive?
Are you sure? Do you want me to recall that for you?
Yes, I'm sure! Do you want to open this web page and edge?
There's just, like, none of that stuff. Would you like me to stay, would you like to stay signed in?
Yes! For the 40 trillionth time.
I would! Yeah, so there's none of that.
I click the button, I click the button, don't ask me again every time.
And, like, I haven't even changed my background on my laptop, let alone, like, anything else.
Like, I've done, I've done nothing.
My desktop I've done more tinkering with, but, yeah, my laptop I've done nothing, I'm
very happy with it. Would you like to sign in to just this application or system-wide?
Just this application! How many times do I have to tell you?
Every time. Because they want it to be system-wide. Would you like to sign in to MS Paint?
No! Ever! Oh, dude!
Not ever. Dude! Oh, man, sorry, I'm going off, I'm going off now.
Because- It's Linus's turn, I like this. I got an email, I got an email earlier this week from SwiftKey, okay?
From SwiftKey. And I'm going to show this to you.
Because this- They got it. This killed my brain, okay?
So first of all, first of all, I'm mad because they are- they're cramming OneDrive so far
down my throat that it's going to come out my butt, okay?
From Microsoft, we're writing to let you know that SwiftKey accounts will be retired as
of the 31st of May, 2026. To ensure a smoother, more secure experience, we'll be transitioning to standard Microsoft
account sign-in for all users.
Why this change? Well, it's part of our effort to make SwiftKey better, sure.
Know it isn't. Blah, blah, blah. Your typing data will be more securely stored in, you guessed it, OneDrive.
Okay, you'll benefit from enhanced privacy, blah, blah. You get a thousand Microsoft reward points, whatever those are.
It simplifies your experience by using the same credentials you already use for other
Microsoft apps and services. Fair enough, I have a Microsoft account.
So sure, fundamentally, this doesn't make a difference to me.
If it worked, okay, what does this mean for you?
If you already use Microsoft to sign into SwiftKey, your data will be backed up to OneDrive
as soon as it's ready. No further action is needed. Okay, first of all, Microsoft, I mean, you have my account.
You emailed me, so you clearly know how I sign in.
Do I use a Microsoft account? I don't know.
You tell me. I probably haven't signed into SwiftKey in like a year.
That's just for starters. Hold on. If you signed in with a different account, e.g., Google or Apple, you'll need to connect
a Microsoft account to continue backing up your data. If you don't have an existing Microsoft account, you can easily create one with the same link
below. Okay, fair enough.
Connect your Microsoft account now. Oh my God, this works on mobile.
That is hilarious. Okay, well, I went on a whole rant because I did it on desktop.
Here, I'm going to show, okay, now I have to show you this to show I'm not crazy.
Yeah, I mean, it is a mobile application, but it's an email, so like...
So I opened it on my laptop. Yeah, yeah. One second.
SwiftKey. Okay, this is crazy.
Okay, I'm going to click it on here.
Connect your Microsoft account now, and it literally just dumps me on the SwiftKey home
page. Yeah. It doesn't take me to the account.
Hold on, hold on. I'm going to use my Linux superpower, super granular screen brightness here.
Okay, it just dumped me on the SwiftKey home page.
There is nothing on here about anything to do with account migration, nothing.
There's a link to the Google Play Store, view-supported languages. Luke, back me up on this.
Oh yeah, for sure. Back me up on this, okay? Here's my...
Just so I can prove, no Tom Fullery, here's the same email, I'm clicking the same link.
You watched me do it. I think I watched her the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here's the page. Okay? Yeah, yeah.
Okay, because I use Google to sign in, and so I went and I signed into my SwiftKey account
also on my laptop, because I happened to be on my laptop when I got the email.
There was nothing in there about where the data was stored, because I was pretty sure
I used a Google account, and there was just nothing in there.
You probably would have. So the only way to access this flow is to happen to open it on mobile.
That's crazy. MRO Mutt says, thanks for making me feel normal about this whole SwiftKey thing.
I went through the exact same thing. That's crazy.
Why would you send me to just your home page if I open it on desktop or a laptop?
You're Microsoft. You know about laptops.
All right, okay, I'm marking that on red now so that I can deal with this later, because
I actually would strongly prefer not to lose my dictionary.
SwiftKey is a significant part of my stickiness on Android, because on iOS it sucks, and I've
never actually verified this, but I assume it's due to Apple's better privacy around
third-party apps and being able to monitor what you type.
But for better or for worse, I've used SwiftKey for like 10 years now, and it has an extensive
dictionary of everything that I need to talk about, which includes a lot of tech terms,
and I care about not having to correct the same ducking thing a million times, and so
having a dictionary that really works is really important to me and makes me more productive.
I would really like to keep my SwiftKey library, so yeah, I'm going to fix that now.
Sorry. What were we talking about? I don't remember.
Just Linux stuff in general. Yeah. I think we're talking about how the Linux challenge is going.
I realized, I think it was yesterday, that I should ask, like, oh, when is the Linux
challenge over? When last time, I'm pretty sure we were getting like weekly updates and all talking together,
but like when we were allowed to go back, and I thought it was interesting that there
hasn't really been a lot of chatter, and with how it's been being filmed, I feel like it's
going to be going on for like a while longer, and I'm totally fine with that.
I think the only thing drawing me back right now ... Is there like an impending game launch or something?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I really liked Forza Horizon 5.
I didn't play any of the previous ones, but I had honestly a lot of fun with Forza Horizon
5. It's a great game, and Forza Horizon 6 is coming on May 19th, but I genuinely, with the experience
that I had very recently of using someone else's Windows machine, I genuinely think I might
dual boot and just treat it like turning on a console. Right.
I'll dual boot, play Horizon, when I'm done, just boot back into Linux.
Do you think it'll work on Wine 11? No.
Ah, I'm pretty anti-dual boot. I don't know if I can explain why.
I don't love it. I don't like it either. It's like ... It feels like ...
Forza Horizon is supported on Linux? Really? Horizon 5 is gold, apparently.
Really? I just looked it up on ProtonDB while you were talking about it.
Wow. Yeah. I didn't expect that.
I didn't expect that because of the multiplayer.
That was my guess. Is cheating a major issue in Forza Horizon?
I don't think I ever played online. I don't care at all. It was the single-player game that I wanted to play.
Even if you just can't play multiplayer or whatever, that is completely fine for me.
I do not care. Okay. Chat says it has a stupid amount of cheating.
Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm not too surprised.
Yeah. Didn't Valve just ban a million accounts?
I didn't see that in the doc. I didn't see that this week.
A million? Yeah. That's wild.
Accounts. They're all playing CS. Yeah.
Nearly a million cheaters banned in Counter-Strike 2. 960,000 accounts.
Cheaters are just in everything now. You know what's so funny? It's crazy.
It's the first thing I was about to say when I read out that chat that, yeah, cheating
is everywhere in Forza Horizon 5 was like, who would want to cheat in a racing game?
And then I was like, okay, right, but like I could apply that exact same logic.
Who would want to cheat in a shooting game? Who would want to cheat in a strategy game?
You know, wouldn't that just defeat the entire purpose of playing the game and determining
who's better at the game? Right.
Yeah. Same logic applies across the board, I suppose.
It's not just... Okay. So someone pointed out those accounts would AFK CS games to get weekly case drops.
Yeah. I heard that was a thing. I saw where somebody joined a public match as a spectator and all the bots detected that
someone was a spectator, meaning they could see their gameplay and they just all disconnected
at the same time. And it was like a massive percentage of the lobby, just all auto-disconnected.
But I've also heard that people in ranked games will just like openly on the mic ask
each other if they're cheating and if like 4 out of 5 of the players are cheating, they'll
just vote kick the fifth one.
I don't know if it's like real. It could have been staged and acted out, but yeah, it's like way too much.
But yeah, the Forza Horizon 5, the single-part campaign was amazing.
All the additional add-ons were really cool. They collaborated with Donut and there's like a Donut Media little like mini challenge
thing in it, which was like pretty sweet where you had to like build up a car and blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah. It was awesome. I've been looking forward to six, but I mean, if it has a gold rating, maybe I'll just
wait and then play it on Linux anyways. I don't need to play on release day.
I don't care about that. And Ballard says real racers and real race cars are cheating too, you know.
Mercedes this year and their F1 engine is probably legal. Okay, that one I understand.
That just like is big money involved. Yeah. And that's like as far as my understanding goes, it's part of the fun of F1 is watching
the different teams and how they work around the rules and then adapting year to year.
It's like a bunch of people that I know that watch, watch it because they find the technological
engineering side of it to be more interesting than anything else.
So I don't know. All right. Why don't we jump into another topic here?
Maybe we should do a short one here. Sure. This is just more of an FYI than anything else.
Ubiquity has patched three significant flaws in their software and firmware, including
a path traversal vulnerability found in version 10.1.85 and earlier of the Unify network
application, aka Unify controller and Unify Express version 9.0.114 and earlier.
See the security advisory for details and patch as soon as possible.
Very, very important because that's really bad.
It can allow account takeover. So patch all your Unify stuff.
Please, please, please, please, please. And the source here is Ubiquity.
Here's the advisory bulletin. You're going to want to let more people than this need to see it and make sure that they
act on this. This is very, very important network infrastructure not to be taken lightly as far as security
goes. I'm doing it right now. Okay.
Hopefully you're like home stuff. Okay. Good.
Okay. I was like, this is it. No, no, no, no.
No, I don't do that anymore. No. Okay.
On the subject. I'm sorry. On the subject.
I had to intervene there. On the subject of networking infrastructure and security, routers are illegal in America
now. Okay. That's a bit of a sensationalist headline, but it's also not that far off.
An FCC policy update earlier this week effectively bans the sale of consumer grade routers that
are not made in the US, which as far as we can tell is pretty much all of them, except
some percentage of Starlink routers, unless they have already received FCC authorization.
I think it's going to be a lot of them, which is, which is all of them.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
And so this is kind of like the drone thing. Yes. Remember when they banned all non-US made drones and, but then all the ones that are for sale
now are fine. Honestly, to me, this kind of rhymes with China banning battery banks that aren't made in
China. Is that the case? It's something like that.
Oh, no, no, no. It's a particular Chinese certification.
CCC or whatever. Yeah. That's not made in China.
That's, that's separate. That's separate. But as far as my understanding goes, it's almost entirely ones that are made in China?
Well, I mean, most battery banks are made in China.
But like, say hypothetically. CCS.
Say hypothetically, no, it's CCC, I believe. Okay. Say hypothetically, we were to make a battery bank.
You could get it certified for that. And let's say our cells were made in hypothetically, you know, Korea or, you know, somewhere,
and our PCBs were made, you know, wherever, and, you know, whatever, right, stuff, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We could totally just do CCC certification.
Nothing would prevent that. Because is, are there certification houses outside of China that do that certification?
No idea. But finding a certification house in China for battery banks is-
Gotta be easy. Is pretty simple. They gotta be all over the place.
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, there is a little bit more to talk through on this one.
It's not clear exactly what constitutes consumer grade, but foreign made appears to be anything
physically manufactured outside the U.S. regardless of what country the company is based in.
This policy change comes after the commission received a national security determination,
which states that vulnerabilities in foreign made, small, and home office routers represent
unacceptable risk to Americans. An FCC fact sheet clarifies that the update does not prohibit the import, sale, or use
of any existing device models that the FCC previously authorized.
All new models will need to be approved by DOW of DHS or, oh, or DHS, I think that probably
means I'm going to go with OR. There.
The FCC notice also offers some details on how companies can obtain conditional approval
with exactly zero questions about security, but it must include a detailed time-bound
plan for onshore manufacturing to the U.S.
In statements to the Verge, both TP-Link and ASUS expressed confidence in the security
of their respective supply chains, and neither company gave any indication that they would
move any manufacturing capacity to the U.S. for consumer routers.
You want some real expensive routers? Yeah.
I mean, is that our conversation or our discussion topic for this one?
There's some like, I don't know how I'd find this.
Serve the Home had a video on it, or was it Serve the Home? Serve the Home was on Geerling's channel, I think, talking about a really cool looking,
I'm pretty sure it was a router, but it was very expensive.
I mean, yeah, Serve the Home is talking about it, it's probably expensive.
That's a circle. Things Serve the Home covers and things that are very expensive, perfect circle, completely
overlapping. Yeah. I mean, he does a lot of commercial enterprise-grade stuff, he does a great job.
Well, he was on Geerling's channel, and Geerling sometimes covers some cheaper stuff.
Ooh, yeah. Geerling sometimes covers some very expensive stuff. He does, and I think this is 600 bucks, and it's probably 600 bucks American.
Like the old real dollars. A lot of dollars.
Yeah, I think it was this video, whoop, from Jan2.
Are you planning to skip that out at some point? Thank you.
I don't usually watch YouTube with ads. You're killing me. Where is it?
It's not that one. It's what's in his hand right there. I love Patrick's shirt.
Nice. I love that they're both just like solid color, white text.
Nice. But yeah, it's a pretty cool looking little thing.
This one.
But, and I think this is made in the US. I think I've heard of this thing.
Monorotor, specifically DevKit model. Yeah, I think, yeah, and I'm pretty sure it's made in the US, but it's, again, it's
600 US dollars, final price of the kit, right here.
Woof. I think I've heard of this, sir. What's it called, mono?
Not made in the US. Oh, it's made in the EU. Okay.
Well, then it doesn't solve the problem, but it's a cool video and it's a cool little
device. Maybe check that out. What do you want, Sammy?
Bye. Bye. Bye, Sammy.
Check Republic. Oh, these guys reached out to me, out to me at some point.
Oh, well. Did I not reply to them? I think I meant to.
Well, oops. Wow, good for them.
That's so cool. Watching the video they sent me that was about like the development of this thing.
If it's the one that I'm thinking of, we raised $500,000 to manufacture our high end
router. Yeah, yeah, this thing. That's it, for sure.
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, that's super cool. I totally, I did not mean to ghost these guys.
I must have just accidentally marked the email as well. I wasn't trying to set you up for that, I had no idea.
No, no, no, no. Yeah, that's, I mean, I think everyone misses an email from time to time.
Yeah, sure. Um, but yeah, wow, yeah, good for them.
That's fantastic. They are, they're across the line now. Right?
Well, it is, I mean, it is fantastic, but also I'm pretty sure if you go to his, um,
like his actual YouTube channel, okay, Tom Oz, right?
And then what's this? Yeah, something like that. Oh my God, I closed it.
I'm sorry. Hold on one second. Oh, good.
Uh, the Xammon.
He has a recent video, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We built a thousand routers and made $0.
Yeah. Relatable. I don't know, um, uh, yeah, right.
Um, I, oh dude, and then there was the recent thing where, uh, Der Bauer got completely
f***ed over on some not proper, yeah, um, it's so funny because every time we make one
of those videos that's like, it took us three years to make a screwdriver.
Ask me why. You know, if we took three years to make a four years or ever along, it took to make
the cables. But why is that out people, there, there will inevitably be like, uh, uh, a contingent of
people in the comments that are like, yeah, it's because you guys are so f***ing incompetent
and blah, blah, dude, creating anything is so hard.
And I think that it has fundamentally altered my perspective to move from, from selling,
like being a merchant, to reviewing and evaluating, to actually making, to, to, to, to being responsible
for everything from the initial funding to the final delivery, the final quality of the
delivered product. It's so much harder and it makes it, it's, it's given me, I think at, at times a perspective
that people have found abrasive, um, where I'm, and it can come across, I think a little
bit boot liqory where I'm like, yeah, but I, I get it.
I see their side, I see their perspective because I mean, here, let's bring up something
really uncomfortable, mod mat, where you're publicly talking about is the mod mat.
Where is the mod mat? Where is it? Where is it?
Linus? Where is it? I don't, I know nothing about it.
I know it doesn't exist. What it, where it is, is it is figuratively in a space that illustrates the challenges
of creating physical products.
That's where it is right now. Right now. How do we get it out of there?
It's releasing on April 1st. Uh, no, no, it isn't.
It totally is.
Sure. No, it's not. April 1st joke is that it's a joke, but it's still not out.
Yeah. Yeah. So.
I also didn't say which year. Jesus. Um, but yeah, cool little device.
Apparently not made in the States, so totally irrelevant to the conversation, but maybe
go check it out. I wish I'm not. It's funny how, um, a lot of people will assume that anything made in the West is made in
the States. Like I saw, we, we had a video earlier this week about, oh my gosh, it's not in the dock.
ARM makes CPUs now. Yeah.
Yeah. We had a whole video about that earlier this week. You should go watch it because ARM instead of just licensing IP or providing sort of
prefabbed, um, you know, ready for you to integrate into your own silicon sort of IP
guidance and kits, uh, core designs, what do they call them?
CCS or something. I forget they call it, but basically these like kind of, uh, blocks of various IPs that
include their processing cores that you can, you know, cobble together your own processor
out of. Instead of just doing that, they actually are going to be directly selling ARM branded
silicon in the, in the data center now, uh, specifically for AI, um, to their credit,
what thereafter is making AI way more efficient, which is like, if we're going to have AI,
it being more efficient seems like not terrible.
Um, but anyway, where was I, where's it going with the, right, uh, I saw a bunch of comments
that were like, Oh yeah. Now we have like, you know, America made, you know, an American CPU brand.
We have America made CPUs and something, something, something's like, bro, like acorn
started in Europe. Like what are you talking about?
It's not American company. Uh, like, what about Intel and Qualcomm?
Well, okay. So hold on a second. This was something that I, I looked up like three times to make sure that I had it right.
IIR FTW says, uh, oh wait, no, no, you're right.
Yeah. ARM hasn't made their own chip since the BBC micro. So ARM got up on stage and said, this is the first time we're making an ARM chip.
And I kind of went, well, that doesn't sound right because I thought that was literally
like what you guys did the first, you know, time. And there's that famous story of how the ARM chip was so efficient that they powered it
off and just like, there was enough power in the signal lines or something that it would
like stayed powered on for a long time or something. And they came in the lab the next day and it was like still outputting or something.
Whoa. Yeah. It's crazy, crazy efficient chip.
It was made by Acorn. That was before they became ARM, which happened, I think like two or three years later or something
like that. I like the Acorn name. This is the first actual ARM CPU.
Sweet. More people should maybe go watch that video.
Yeah. Yeah. It did okay.
It did okay. I mean, and it's the video form of like a press release. Like I can't benchmark it.
But true. This has major, major implications for the tech industry.
It was very interesting to me being at the event and seeing ARM stock drop during the
keynote. And I was like, really, what?
I don't understand this. Why is it dropping?
This actually seems huge. And then it popped.
And then now we're back in what, what, what, what do you, what do you even, what do you
even, our stock values anymore? I don't understand it. Everything's just based on whatever's more entertaining, I think.
Ebalorid says this happens to Apple stock every keynote too, really?
So is this just like, like, is this like a high frequency machine trading thing that's
just like the play, you know, you, stocks are based on vibes.
Yeah, I get it. And not advice. Like not advice guys.
I, this is not financial advice.
But I, I think it's a pretty exciting opportunity. I don't love the way that they were so focused on its application for AI in the product announcement
because you're, when you tie your cart to that horse, you kind of live and die by it.
And when you look at the implementations of arms cores that are, that have already made
their way, like you can, you can rent an ARM instance from Amazon right now, like you can
go right now and you can get a graviton instance and you can like use ARM data center processors
right the second. And they, they don't have to be for AI.
They can be for other things. And so I would have liked to see them talk a little bit more about what else these CPUs
can do because I'm sure they can do other stuff.
But I also understand why in the current climate with so much build out happening around AI,
why, why they focused on is just, I wish they had, I wish they'd talked about, oh, and also
all this other stuff, this legacy stuff that will also still exist, you know, at some point
in the future, we can do that too.
Oh, disclosure, that video was sponsored by ARM.
Our trip down was sponsored by ARM. So take that for, for what it is, but I'm, they're not sponsored here and they're not
going to be watching this. So I'm, yeah, I'm saying whatever.
Nice. Nice. Nice.
Oh, we should probably do sponsors. Speaking of sponsors.
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All right. You want to pick a topic? Sure. I'm feeling a Luke topic.
Hold on. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to try to predict which one it is.
I'm going to predict it. Okay. I've got it on my screen.
I'm ready. I did a last minute pivot to change my mind.
We'll see if he predicted that far.
Meta and Google found liable. Oh, I was on that one first.
Which one was your first one?
Oh man. Meta and Google found liable in landmark social media addiction trial.
Two landmark rulings against social media companies happened this week.
Tuesday, a New Mexico jury ordered Meta to pay $375 million for misleading parents
about the safety of Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp. Then on Wednesday, an LA jury found Meta and YouTube negligent for harming kids
through addictive platform design. Awarding the plaintiff in the case, 3 million in damages, uh, 70% of that from
Meta, 30% of that from YouTube. The New Mexico case.
So the first one grew out of a 2023 undercover sting conducted by the
guardian, uh, like the newspaper. Yeah.
Uh, okay. Cool. To investigate investigative journalism, let's go to investigate the risks that
children are exposed to on Instagram and Facebook, internal documents and
testimony from former employees show Meta repeatedly ignored warnings about
child safety, surprise, surprise.
No one would have ever guessed the New Mexico, nope.
Sorry. Law enforcement also testified that Meta's crime reporting was deficient
because Meta relied too heavily on AI moderation, generating high volumes of junk
reports that made investigations practically impossible.
Surprise, surprise. Again, during that trial, Zuckerberg and Instagram lead, uh, or sorry,
Instagram head Adam Mosseri testified that, that harms to children were inevitable
on their platform due to their massive user bases.
Huh. Okay. Um, cool.
The $375 million penalty, $5,000 per violation with 75,000 violations is
substantial, but is less than one-fifth of what the prosecutors initially sought.
Though further restitution might be ordered as the case moves to a bench trial in
May, where a judge will rule on public nuisance claims that could see Meta being
forced to change how its platforms work. Wow. Awesome.
Interesting. Uh, the LA case was a seven week trial brought by a 20 year old woman.
Okay. Uh, sure. I think at the point is just that she's young and pretty much is at an age now
where she grew up being impacted by these platforms. Got it.
Okay. I think that's the only reason we're mentioning the age. Sure.
Um, her argument was that Meta and YouTube deliberately designed their
platforms with features like infinite scroll. That's kind of the primary one, uh, auto play, which kind of ties into infinite scroll.
I don't really know that many things that infinitely scroll, but you have to press the play button, uh, and push notifications that exploit dopamine responses to
keep kids hooked. The plaintiff's lawyers focused on the app's design rather than their content,
which I actually personally completely agree with, which is what allowed them to
get around section 230. Um, I think any app that infinitely scrolls, you should be looking at critically.
Um, anyways, Meta's defense tied to argue her struggles.
Meta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors,
a difficult family life, bullying at school.
Um, they pointed out, yeah, uh, they pointed out this is Floatplane.
Yeah. I think you should scrutinize why it does that and how it affects your
usage of the platform. And I think the end result is not algorithmic.
So I think the end result of scrutinizing that on full plane is, uh, it
doesn't really actually do anything, uh, which is fine.
And then I think you can look at a platform like, like Instagram and be like,
Oh wow, this is very clearly designed to keep me going. I'm just, I'm just saying, no, I think you should scrutinize it though.
And I have had this thought before of like, Oh, Floatplane does that.
But I, in my case, I think it's fine, not infinite.
That's kind of true. You do technically come to an end, but I think it's, I think it's.
Long enough that it, it could be put in the category still.
Yeah. And I managed to scroll through so many videos that it's like bogged down
enough that it's not a great infinite scrolling experience.
You're out of the preload. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's, it's like the platform is really not designed for that
type of infinite scrolling, like Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, et cetera,
Facebook, et cetera, are all designed to really like that is what they're for.
And they're designed to keep you there and they're going to autoplay everything and all that kind of stuff.
Full plane is really not like that, even though it can load, I will defend
this forever. Anyways, okay. Uh, yeah.
Met his defense, met his defense, tried to argue that her struggles were caused
by other factors, a difficult family life, bullying at school. They also pointed out that notes from six months of therapy, didn't mention
social media addiction or name any apps. Imagine going after someone that way.
Imagine someone saying, Hey, your product damaged me.
And you being like, yo, y'all broken cause your family sucks.
And you were bullied at our platform was just, we just took advantage of that.
Couldn't help noticing that you had six months of therapy and the notes.
Dude, I don't know. Like, what did, did she, I mean, that's part of discovery.
I guess they could ask for something like that. Maybe you get notes from your therapy.
I don't know if that sounds crazy, but that sounds nuts to me.
I mean, I, I've never, I've never, look, there's a, I am not a litigious person.
You know, if I'm ever, I want to make it clear that if I'm ever pushed
to pass the limit, like, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll do it, but I really don't want to.
And I've managed to be in this industry for this long without ending up in a court room.
I'd like to keep it that way. Um, what, what, what, what, what, what, what was I going to say here?
It was, uh, yeah. So I don't, so I don't know like how this process works, but from everything
I've heard, it sucks. Yes, you can absolutely get therapy notes.
Wow. That's super sketch.
So what you're telling me is don't go to therapy.
That's not what we're saying. Not advice. Yeah. I'm going to sit over here for a second.
I tried. I friggin hated it. Uh, but anyways, uh, that's a story for another time.
Maybe not when, yeah, yeah. Uh, jurors nearly unanimously sided with the plaintiff, awarding her $3 million
damages with the jury still deliberating on punitive damages, which
could significantly increase the payout. Yeah. $3 million sounded like just a slap on the wrist, but if you, um, sort of
look at the bigger picture here, there are over 3000 similar lawsuits
pending in California, plus more than 40 state attorneys general who have
filed against meta and that $3 million is to one person.
The floodgates could be open here.
It could be kind of fun. Um, discussion questions. Section 230 has been the bedrock legal defense for social media companies for
30 years. These two juries just rejected it.
If that precedent holds up on appeal, what does the social media landscape
look like when platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content kids?
I think it could look a lot more like it used to look where you friend people
and then you see whatever your friend actually posted. Awesome.
The internet being cool again would be so sick. Yeah, I'd be down.
It would be so cool. I would, I'm a little older now.
I would use Facebook. Me too. Like the old one.
Yeah, me too. I would legitimately use it. I would, I would be an active user and like you could, you can go on my Facebook.
You can see that even when Facebook was not cool, what kind of cool.
What are we missing then? Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to find me.
They want ID laws for app stores. Oh, I think these things are different.
Yeah, this is, that's, that's not what we're talking about. I agree with you that that sucks, but I think these things are different.
Where am I? I don't know. I don't know how to, I don't know how to find myself on Facebook.
Literally don't know how to use Facebook.
This is cute though. I don't know. This is, this is from the LTT channel.
Nice. Don't talk to me or my son ever again.
The job social media. Anyway, the point is I, I like posted not at all, but I'm, if I was actually
posting to people who I actually am connected with and care about, then I'd
probably, I'd probably use it just cause I don't socially interact with those
people in person all the time anymore. And it's, it's easy.
It's convenient. It's just, it's so, it's so unusable now that there's no temptation whatsoever
beyond messenger. Short form dopamine abusing garbage trash content is like everywhere now.
And it's also on Facebook. It was just like, oh, it's especially on Facebook.
I had to go on there to message a family member very recently, jumped on
Facebook, on desktop, and just like looked around for a sec and was just like,
Oh, it's so bad. And if you frequent communities like, am I the asshole?
Um, you'll see, you'll start to see the like repurposing and recirculation of
like AI generated stories with like slightly different twists.
And so there'll be a version of it that you notice on Facebook, uh, where, you
know, he cheated and then this happened and then this happened and then this happened.
And then there was a thing with my dog and like, you've got these, these stories that are just designed for you to like keep staying engaged to find
out what happens next. And it's, it's all fake.
Yeah. Except when it isn't, but it seems to be all fake.
Yeah. So gross. Um, I don't know the, the, the comments about the, uh, age verification
for app stores thing. I don't, I understand where you're coming from about these things being related
because this whole thing is algorithms for kids.
No, but the, okay, this is, but I think there are two things happening at
the same time that have similar topics.
And I also think that if we are, if we're talking about this product being
designed to be harmful for kids in a way where it's, uh, keeping you engaged
through intentional like dopamine spikes, it's not a far reach to go, okay, but
then is it also designed to be harmful to adults? Yeah.
And I think it's harmful to everyone. And, and so we could end up with a very good outcome here, you know, in much
the same way that, you know, marketing is restricted in many territories around
products like cigarettes, drugs, alcohol, uh, it used to be for gambling.
I don't know what happened there. We sort of had a good thing and then we decided, ah, you know what, forget it.
Let's just let it go rampant. Sorry. Once a, uh, serious scaper is, I think their, their name says this is walking
the internet as we know it, meaning LTT forum, flowplaning such will be liable.
Actually, neither of those that you need to be liable at all based on the
reading that I've have here. Because we don't algorithmically serve content.
Yeah. We don't do it at all. So I, I haven't personally read section 230, but the notes that we have in the
doc here, um, say specifically that platforms can be sued for how their
algorithms serve content to kids. It's not the content itself that they're liable for because yeah, section 230,
they didn't create the content. They can't be responsible for every user generated piece of content that's
uploaded to their sites, but what they can be responsible for is curating it.
Algorithmically to generate a stimulus, a stimulus response, uh, chemical
reaction in your brain that keeps you hooked on it. That's the conversation, not the content itself.
So there's not a single platform that we operate that would fall under that.
And serious scaper is making a bit of a slippery slope argument here about
this opening the door is the sort of the next thing that they're saying here.
And you know what, maybe I, I personally do not immediately dismiss a slippery
slope fallacy argument because there's plenty of historical precedent for the
slippery slope, absolutely being a thing where I take issue with your argument
though, is that I don't think that this slope that we're on in this particular
ruling leads to repealing section 230 or significantly revising it.
I don't think that anyone in their right mind is going to make a platform
responsible for every single individual thing that a user posts because it's
not realistic. It's just plain not realistic.
Yeah. Algorithmic suggestion is, is quite different from UGC.
It's interesting. I think something needs to change. I totally understand the whole slippery slope thing and that being a concern.
I think where we're at now is like extremely toxic and extremely negative
for all of humanity that is connected to the internet and has to be addressed
somehow. I don't know that this is the best way. I don't know that this leads us down the best path.
Okay. Something's got to change. I do think serious scaper might be a little bit kind of barking down
the wrong path a little bit. It's saying literally the ones who want laws to pass that would require
ID laws, a case surveillance is these giant tech companies.
And this is the next step. No, no, no, no, no, they want ID laws and all of that.
They want more personal information. They oppose this.
They lost this case. This, this lawsuit, they lost it.
This is not the direction they want to go. This is the opposite of what they want right now.
So this is, we're not saying yes, this is good because it benefits Facebook
and Meta and Google. That's not what happened here.
What happened is Meta and Google lost in a way that has the potential to make
the kind of algorithmic serving of content that has become so addictive.
That it is doing measurable damage to a generation of people illegal,
hopefully, or at least financially impractical. We should stop this topic, but I'll throw in one last thing.
It says literally the parents of the kids in this case came out and said past COSA, which is a surveillance law.
Yeah, but that's not what the case was about. Right. They can say whatever they want.
They could come out and say chicken wings are better than burgers.
Or I prefer hot dogs and waffles suck and I'm a pancakes boy.
And it wouldn't mean anything. But anyways, let's talk more good news.
I understand your point. And I think it is a valid concern.
Bigger battle mage is here.
The Arc Pro B 65 and B 70 were announced earlier this week.
And we've got a couple of spec sheets here.
One for the B 65 and one for the B 70.
Let's go ahead and let's go ahead and pull these up.
And this is so funny. I'm on Intel Arc reading about Intel Arc.
Yo, dawg, I heard you like arcs. So I put arc on your arc so you can arc will you arc.
I don't think they call this arc anymore. But the joke is that Intel's product specifications.
Website where you could just kind of look at a data sheet like this.
For any product or used to be called Intel Arc. Yeah.
All right. So what do we got? What do we got? Micro architecture, XC2, TSMC and five.
Oh man, you see what TSMC said about unless you're like a loyal long term
customer, you ain't getting no in three. So yeah, Intel probably wouldn't fall under that.
So they're going to have to fab their own GPUs going forward. It sounds like I'd probably reading too much into it, but whatever.
So the 65 gets 20 XC cores and the 70 gets 32.
So this is what was probably supposed to be the rumored B 70.
But the bad part of the news is we're not getting that in a consumer card.
The good part of the news here is that, Hey, at least it's coming to light.
So it does exist, which means maybe if the rampocalypse, you know, ends reasonably
soon, we could get it someday or something.
And it also means Intel has not abandoned GPUs.
Everything Intel does that shows that they're still making GPUs is encouraging
for me because we must, we must not have a monopoly in this space.
So either 20 or 32 ray tracing units.
All right. That's pretty cool. Vector engines 162, oh wow.
So the B 70 is like a much, much beefier card.
Oh yeah, it's a it's a thousand dollars higher clocked. She's in US.
She's a she's a big boy. Yeah. PCIe Gen five by 16 for both of them and both of them.
This is pretty cool. Have 256 bit interfaces and 32 gigs of GDDR six memory is pretty nice.
That is a fat amount of GDDR memory.
I think for under a thousand dollar GPU. A lot of these are going to end up in potentially dual GPU setups.
It's, it's very clear what Intel is trying to do here.
Yeah, they are trying to get homelab people running arc, optimizing their AI
crap for arc so that longer term, their data center accelerators are going to
have people familiar with how to use them seems pretty smart.
I am not super on top of this stuff. Someone in chat said, is it GDR six?
And I went to go confirm that it is, but I also think that should be.
It's real. You really just care about the capacity a lot.
So I'm pretty sure. Okay. Okay. It's two-fold.
So for the workloads that I suspect people are going to be using this for.
I want to add that caveat before you keep going. It's okay.
So we, we covered this in a fair bit more detail in that video that, that we
worked on with, with Nick Harris from the lab. Yeah. So what was that?
That was a H one H one hundred card. I think it was.
It was an H one hundred. It was, it was an, like, it was an older data center AI accelerator from NVIDIA.
Yeah. And what we, what we talked about was, okay, like capacity and speed and sort
of the relationship there. So for certain AI workloads, the speed actually matters quite a lot.
Okay. And that's why you have these HBM stacks that are sitting right next to the dye.
Yeah. Um, and from my, from what I can remember, and this is one of those things
where I will often go and relearn something so that I can do a video about it.
And then if I don't touch it for six months, then I'll kind of forget a lot of the details and then I'll have to like go touch up on it again.
But from what I can remember, uh, a lot of it is down to training.
You want the speed for training. And then when it comes to, uh, when it comes to inference, when it
comes to actually using the models, the speed of the memory is not quite as
important, but the capacity of the memory matters because you have to be able
to fit the model into your working memory or else your speed drops off dramatically.
So having faster memory might make you a little bit faster for inference, a little
bit, but not having enough takes you from here to here because all of a sudden
you're swapping out to storage and that's Boruto.
So yeah, GDDR six, not going to be the end of the world.
And the fact that it's on a 256 bit bus is going to help.
So total bandwidth that Intel quotes is something in the neighborhood of, I think
it was 660 gigabytes a second, 608 gigabytes a second, which is not industry
leading by any stretch of the imagination, but with this much memory for what
people are trying to do at home, right? Where they're not trying to do this at an industrial scale.
It's going to be faster or enough for just having that capacity.
Um, that this could be very appealing for home labbers.
Yeah, yeah. I want to take us on a weird aside for a second.
I think it was in the pre-show. We were talking about the expense of live streaming.
Was that in the pre-show? Uh, no, that wasn't the main show.
I think was it either way. I know I realized I wanted to do an updated count because I saw that, you
know, on on YouTube weird. Oh, this is an older.
Oh boy, where'd it go? There on YouTube, we have 8.9 thousand now.
So we've kind of like cooked a little bit. Wancho takes a little bit to get its viewer viewership up, but I noticed
something that was wrong the first time I came to the calculator, um, which
was I, I totaled our viewership between YouTube and Twitch. So I got a 10,800, but then I saw, I saw this and I remembered this average
viewer watch duration 50%. Oh, but if I'm looking at the people currently watching, that is not how
that would work. So if we round it down, cause I know Wancho takes a little bit to
grow its viewership and we just go to 10,000, we hit pretty close to peak
after about the first, I'm actually just looking at it right now, about an hour
in, we're pretty close to peak. Yeah. Um, and if we change this to, so we go down to 10,000, so we shave off a
decent amount of viewers and let's say a hundred percent, we can also do 90.
Which one do you want to do? Uh, I wish we could do 75.
Yeah. Uh, let's do 90. Let's do a worst case scenario because I also think you rounded down on how
many people were watching. So I did. Yeah, I did. Yeah. So we'll round up on by like almost a thousand.
That's crazy. Please tell me we're not spending that much. Right, right, right, because we're not watching on flow plane.
We've got, uh, around 10% of that.
Sorry, it's probably me.
It's fun times every time we stream Wancho, really?
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Yeah, I know. I just wish I could just alter the URL. Uh, okay.
Well, they're still in the U S store. Well, anyway, uh, whatever.
If you shop around, find something, send a merch message. Every little bit helps.
What? Why not? You said merch message. Oh, shoot.
Check out message. Check out message.
Okay.
Uh, what do you want to pick? Should we do? Should we do?
Oh, that hurt. Yeah, those are interesting strategy.
Well, that way I'll remember rubber band works to maybe, uh, there
might be other ways to do that. I've tried all the other ways, Luke, kind of nine days.
Let's do the Apple business thing. Apple unveils Apple business.
An all in one platform to completely replace and consolidate their
current offerings. It will unify device management, productivity tools, uh, device
management and productivity tools within a single interface.
Apple business will feature built in mobile device management or MDM using
their new blueprint system to let admins reconfigure devices with
specific apps and security policies. Additionally, it introduces managed Apple accounts with cryptographic
separation between personal and work data.
Cool. Uh, apart from IT features, like honestly, as someone who has done IT
stuff, get your personal stuff off of, off of our things.
I don't want to see your bank account publicly shared in a password manager.
I don't want that. I, it's not, I actually specifically want that to not be there cause I
don't want the responsibility of that being even possible. So just keep it on your own stuff.
Anyways, it ran over. Uh, apart from IT features, Apple business also adds customer engagement
features such as brand profiles, customizable place cards and Apple maps.
Oh, neat. Um, and tap to pay branding. Apple also announced for their US and Canadian users later this summer that
business will be able to businesses, maybe we'll be able to create search
results, ads for Apple maps and a suggested places interface.
Sure. I don't know. Um, out of all the things to make exclusive ads is a dit.
I'm, oh yeah, that's a little odd. But anyways, uh, the platform will be freely available starting April 14th
in over 200 countries. This is incredible.
Um, this plus the MacBook Neo.
Bruh, Apple is coming for your neck.
If you're a huge variety of different companies, if you are an
educational, if you, if you rely on shifting like huge numbers of books to
educational institutions or in a corporate environment, Apple sees your
pie and they're like, yes, yes, your pie and your pie and your pie.
I'll have all the pie. I'll just have all of it.
Um, they're because already you see so many MacBooks in corporate
and in education, and that was with sort of previous versions of, of, of a mishmash
of this functionality, bringing it all together in one easier to manage package
because that that's what it ultimately comes down to is give me reasonable hardware, make it easy for me to manage.
And I literally won't even call someone else unless it's just to get a
competitive quote to like, you know, keep you accountable, keep you honest.
Um, once someone locks in, there's a lot of inertia there, but in spite of the
inertia of, you know, Chromebooks and Windows, I don't think anybody's
thrilled with those platforms right now.
And so for Apple to come in and say, Hey, we can take all of your problems and
we can make them go away. Also the incredible annoyance of managing them.
Oh, it's just free with that Apple magic. We put a little bit of Apple work to spit shine, spit shine that Apple for you.
Dude, this is like a game changer. And I've talked extensively about this in the past, but whatever the youngins
grow up using, has a serious impact on what they're going to want to use
when they get older. It's one of the reasons that the piracy of the Adobe suite was such a game
changer for Adobe. And why, as far as I can tell, DaVinci Resolve is going to take over in the
next five to 10 years. Yeah. And not piracy in that case, but just free access to it with hard, with
hardware purchase. Uh, at least I think it's still with hardware purchase.
Do you still have to buy anything to get DaVinci? I don't think so.
No, it's just free out, right? Yeah, you can get a pro version.
Right. Okay. But otherwise DaVinci's are just free.
This guy's are such mad. And it's so good. Such mad lads.
Um, where was I going with this? Right.
So, but unlike a Chromebook where there's a lot of friction around continuing
to use a Chromebook forever because it just, you know, app compatibility. And it's always, I think it will drive me crazy forever.
If Google loses this Chromebook thing and I look back at it and I go, you
guys were Linux, you had an opportunity to embrace the Linux-ness of Chrome OS.
You decided not to.
Yeah. That will always, that will be like, that will be like a Microsoft phone level.
Like, like Intel missing the, the investment in, well, I don't know how
the opening, I think it's going to turn out, but like, I'm going to say, no, I'm going to say Microsoft phone.
That will be like a Microsoft phone level colossal up to me to look back on and go,
if this Chrome OS thing doesn't work out, the fact that you guys didn't just
embrace Linux on it and not try to make it just a browser, I'll never get over it.
Yeah. What a weird decision.
Yeah. This is, this is crazy. Hold on. When Bingo Chronified says they have embraced it, it's trivially easy to
enable the Linux underlay and get stuff like the, you'll see an open office in Chrome OS via Linux, trivially easy, but it should just, they
should be promoting it is what I'm saying. There's a big difference between allowing it and pushing it and contributing
to it, like what Valve is doing. Google should have been doing what Valve is doing, like really making Chrome
OS a Linux distro. The biggest push for Linux in recent history was the Steam Deck and still is
the Steam Deck. Yeah. Like if you look on ProtonDB, tons of the comments are Steam Deck
based. Yeah. Because there's so freaking many of them out there.
Yeah. All right. Oh, right. We're going to say something about the Apple platform.
Where are we done? Uh, it probably didn't matter much.
Um, what? The Apple platform? I think it's really important.
Oh, thank God. Uh, he doesn't know. He doesn't know.
macOS is Unix based, which is interesting.
Um, I think as well, just like another competitor in that space, I think is
actually really good. Um, I'm very frustrated with all of the current offerings.
I think they just kind of suck at a conversation recently about our setup
because we're trying to figure out moving off some of them to save money
because we're on like just everything, which sucks. Um, and the conversation was something about like basically, I don't know.
Uh, email just sucks everywhere because yeah, yeah, yeah, we're trying to reduce
that. So like email just kind of sucks everywhere. And the reason why email sucks everywhere is because the basic functionality
of email has been fine for a long time and search is bad everywhere.
Yeah. So it's just like, okay, whatever. And then you get to messaging and it's like, okay, well, the messaging
options are either really bad or too expensive for what they are.
Dude, I searched for the word patent in my Gmail inbox the other day because,
um, our wonderful boss asked me to find out if I had ever
corresponded on something to do with a patent with someone.
And I searched for it and I was like, why the f**k are these results out of order?
And it turns out it defaulted to relevancy, which I decide what's relevant.
I'm like, what are you talking about? I want, so I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.
And all of a sudden they come to something that from very recent. And I said, I realize it's not chronological.
I'm like, sure, if you want to have like, here's the three or four that I
think are the most relevant and surface them at the top, yeah, that's fine.
But by the time I'm sorting, by the time I've scrolled infinitely, you know,
through three pages of results or whatever, obviously you didn't get it.
Also, give it to me in chronological order. Obviously. If I do a super vague search term, yeah, like flight.
Yeah. How could I just give me the most recent one?
Oh, it never does. I'll get one from three years ago. It's crazy.
Like, I don't know, flight San Francisco.
And it'll be like, ah, yes, I do understand that you have a flight to
San Francisco in three days, but I'm going to give you your ticket from seven
years ago. Hope you wanted that. It's just like, why is it bro?
Come on. Um, so like, yeah, basically nobody cares about email because it's just sort
of all junk. Um, nobody cares that much about chat because it's like, do I care enough about
how much better Slack is to pay more for it compared to teams?
I don't know. Maybe developers kind of do, but outside of that, maybe not so much.
Um, so most of it just kind of gets shrugged off.
And the biggest problem we've ran into is like, wow, one drive is a fantastic
piece of and while Google Drive might be kind of neat, Google Workspace
bundling their AI crap into their subscriptions has made it so expensive.
Dude, I was trying to, what was I trying to do the other day?
I was, oh, I was trying to write an email.
Um, hold on. Let me see if I can find this.
I believe if you, you can get it out now, but there was like a period of time
where they kind of forced AI junk to be included with their sales. No, it was, it was doing a bunch of like, like kind of like a spell check
or grammar check, like squiggle under the words in my email.
And I, in 10 seconds, very aggressive, didn't spend that much time.
I couldn't figure out how to turn it off. And it kept sort of trying to recommend tone changes to me.
And I'm like, no, it's an irate email. And it has an irate tone intentionally.
Um, I was so annoyed.
And I'd have to, I'd have to go and actually like type an email right now
to get it to try to do it. Maybe I'll just, I'll find the one I sent last night and I'll put it in.
But yeah, the biggest hurdle that we're running into is one moving off of a
chat system that you're currently using onto another one is definitely possible
no matter where you go, but there is a lot of like resetting up group chats
and resetting up channels and stuff that will take some time.
So you definitely lose some productivity in the switch. So it needs to be worth the productivity loss to save the money on the thing.
Okay, sounds good. We can figure that out. Um, but the last one is just drive, um, trying to get out of Google Drive
to something else, um, is proving a little daunting.
If we do want to do that, um, should we, should we talk about, should we talk
about that thing we set up locally, Dan? It's not doing it right now. So I don't, I don't exactly know why, but this is funny.
Have I told the story about the conversation I had with, um, someone from
Sony when I was over there recently, where one of the things that, um, I've
started feeling tempted to do is to typo something on purpose in my email.
So people know that it was written by a human.
So I said, I sent her an email. Super nice to meet you. Had a really great time checking out the blank, uh, still under NDA.
Uh, my only complaint is I can't show and talk about more of it. Looking forward to working together closely going forward.
Here's a tip yo to prove. I wrote this instead of delegating it to AI.
So I've officially done it once now.
That's funny. Uh, try own cloud. We're, we're trying a few different things.
The, the primary one where we've set up locally right now is next cloud.
Just to play around with that, see how that goes out to us.
Like all the time frequently. Okay. Yeah, that is the one. Guess it worked because it was top of mind.
Um, hey, you know what they say, uh, if you don't get a date the first 500
times, you should definitely ask again, 3000 more. Yeah, a lot of you know, that's not advice.
Yeah, don't do that. That's not advice. That's literally harassment, not legal advice.
Don't do that, but that's harassment.
So we're, we're looking into that. It's a bastion posted in full plane chat and said, uh, where is it?
Google drive is really good. It's unfortunate. I think the things that Google drive is really good at are honestly getting worse.
Um, I think it's search is so abysmal that it's actually genuinely difficult
to use at this point. Um, yeah, I'm like, why is it the, uh, okay.
Hold on. I might be getting this wrong cause I know I've had issues sometimes like searching
for a doc when I'm in Google drive or like searching for a file when I'm in
Google docs, like they don't seem to be able to decide whether they're just one
platform or whether they're like separate platforms and I can never quite
remember the rules of which things work across which other things.
It's very weird. Um, so I'm not going to get into anything specific right now.
So one brought up protons platform. I honestly didn't consider that one.
Um, yeah. It's an interesting idea.
They're improving both the drives, photos, docs, a bunch of stuff since launch.
Yeah. The primary thing that we need from their like drive is their collaborative
stuff because, uh, I will never be able to pry Excel even out of the cold dead
hands of many people at the office. It's still wouldn't be able to get out of their hands.
So there's going to be desktop act apps required for, from Microsoft, literally
just for Excel for a decent amount of people. But outside of that, we need highly collaborative documents, both in sheet
form and document form and form form.
Oh, Google forms is actually kind of goaded. Yeah.
We seemed to be in a competition for years about, uh, can we find ways to buy
Google forms in other ways and then use those instead of using Google forms?
And I don't know why, but we seem to be mostly done doing that now, which is very
cool. Sorry, buy them in other ways. Yeah. Just try to find an external company that basically just has Google forms and
then pay for that and then use it for things internally. We, we did that like a lot.
There was, there was a lot of that going on. Uh, don't we just use Google forms though?
Oh, no. What? No, I don't understand what you're talking about right now.
Uh, does anyone else understand what he's talking about? I know like jot form.
Someone, someone in chat guessed it. I think jot form was something that we used for a while for like a bunch of
things internally, but we do use Google forms for a lot. Like we had some Q and a stuff from the last all hands.
And we also pay for jot form. And we also pay for, I think one or two other things that are basically
just Google forms. Um, why? Well, not as much anymore.
Oh, I thought you were saying this was a strategy we were pursuing. I was making a joke about how it seemed like it was.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, man, there's been, there's been a lot of stuff like that where someone
has like a particular snowflake tool that they want to use. And it's like, okay, bro, but couldn't you just do this in a spreadsheet?
Yeah. Um, I mean, I was always just like, can we just, is there, can we just do this in
a spreadsheet with some macros? It turns out Google sheets is like really powerful.
No, it's not Excel. Don't shoot me, but it is very powerful.
Yeah. It's funny too. If you look at the like Microsoft office, um, let me try to find this.
I was poking around Microsoft office subscriptions the other day and it's,
it's really kind of funky. Um, you can just buy Excel, like non-subscription.
Really? It's like kind of hard to find it. Um, buy Excel.
That's actually pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah.
Here we go. Blink. 170 bucks. Oh, well, I would do that.
You can just buy it for one PC or Mac. Turn data into useful insights.
Can you imagine if it was your job to write the marketing blurb for Microsoft Excel?
Hold on. What else they got here? Spread, share your spreadsheet with others and edit together in real time.
Asterisk files must be shared from one drive. Compatible with Windows 11, Windows 10 or macOS.
Wow. Thanks Microsoft.
Requirements. Additional system requirements. Internet access.
Microsoft account. Oh, you f**kers.
But yeah, you can just buy Excel, which I thought was pretty interesting.
Actually, I didn't realize you could actually just do that. Um, so that was, that was fascinating.
They're making the support period for standalone apps super short.
Right. What it used to be to encourage Microsoft 365 cells. Oh, that makes sense.
That's from Pankrats. Uh, but even, even if you look at their subscriptions, I was kind of poking into
this, so we need, so yeah, you have plans with teams and your nice cheap one is
eight bucks, but this one, you can tell what they, you can tell they know about
Excel, that was the most interesting thing for me to discover, because this,
the cheap one, the eight dollars and ten cents one only includes the web and
mobile versions of Excel. So you can't get the desktop version and I was, I was talking to, I think it was
Terran, I was talking to Terran about how I think it's interesting that through subscription models, they self incentivize, not making their web versions good.
Which I find so funny. I know you love perverse incentives.
Like it's something you find like a fascinating, it is very fast to me, I
guess, um, but like, yeah, because the jump to get the desktop version is
double huge. It's literally, and I noticed that if you go for, I think it's plans without
teams, I'm going to have to find it. So we don't necessarily have to share yet.
Oh, no, here it is. Just Microsoft 365 apps for business, which includes the desktop versions is
more expensive.
So you know, you know that they know internally that people really just need
desktop Excel, because it's so much better than everything else.
And they, there must have it. So I really think there's a pretty strong incentive to not make the web
version good, because the web version is right next to that with more other
features at like half the price.
Six bucks includes web of Excel and everything else.
Microsoft is like the, the Facebook marketplace equivalent of I know what I
got, but only with Microsoft Excel, everything else is just like, how can
we try to make this Excel bouquet look compel more compelling than the other
Excel bouquet? Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, that was wild to me because I'm basically
trying to figure it like, okay, there's a lot of like, what happens if we go
down X or Y path? It's like, do we stick with just Microsoft? Do we stick with just Google?
Do we go with some, some hybrid that's different than the hybrid we have now?
Do we use Apple numbers? Do we do something weird like that?
And one of the static facts is that we must have Excel for certain people.
Yeah. It's not a crazy amount of the company, but it is. There are some people that must be counting people, some of the people who
work in like logistics and planning and like, they just need more powerful sheets.
Yeah. So sounds good. And it just turns out, yeah, I mean, it might just be 1170 a month to get them
word Excel PowerPoint, that look and they will open one of those.
They might accidentally open word.
Maybe. Yeah. Or PowerPoint. Imagine using PowerPoint these days.
I should really just use Google Slides. Yeah.
It's actually just easier. Yeah. To be clear, I'm not saying it's not better slides is better, but I'm
saying for how good a slide needs to be for 98% of people who need to make slides
where no one's really going to look at them, Google Slides is fine.
Yeah. Cephalus says, I use PowerPoint at work all the time.
It's fine. It's fine. It's totally fine. We're not saying it's bad.
Yeah. We're just saying that for how closely anybody's going to look at a PowerPoint slide.
Yeah. Okay.
Do you want to move on? Yeah. Crimson Desert finally gets support and soon optimization for Intel GPUs after
initially locking out ARC cards at launch.
This was shocking to see how this played out in public.
Yes. I don't normally see Intel just like publicly put someone on blast like that.
They really did. And I honestly, I'm here for it. I respect it.
I'm here for it. Yep. They're acting hungry, which is what I like about Intel's ARC guys.
Yeah. Like they're acting, they're acting hungry. They're acting scrappy.
Do we have the original quote from them somewhere in here?
Yeah. It's right here. Over the past several years, we've reached out to Pearl Abyss many times to
help test, validate and optimize support for Intel graphics, providing early
hardware, drivers and engineering resources across multiple generations of Intel GPUs.
That is an absolute mic drop of a truth bomb after Pearl Abyss was basically
like, no, we can't. Oh, no, we can't. Yeah. You know, look into return.
Can you imagine that you put all the support on the table and someone literally
says, if you have this product, look into the return policy for our game,
because we are just not interested. That sucks so much.
That sucks so much. But I am happy that they seem to have pivoted since then.
Yeah. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out.
Okay. Crimson Desert devs, shout out Intel team for just burying the hatchet and getting
things done for the sake of gamers. Um, David Goatier, who prepared this topic, one of our writers says, it's worth
noting Intel is currently approaching 1% market share, which sounds really small until
you consider that we think of AMD as like, you know, the, the other player, you
know, and AMD is at like approximately 7% according to the numbers that he's got,
which I think I thought it was actually lower than I was going to say, wherever these numbers are from, uh, are painting a better picture than was recently in my
head. So hopefully those numbers are accurate. I thought NVIDIA was closer to 95 right now.
I thought they were two, but hopefully we're wrong and those numbers are right.
Yeah. That would be awesome. All right. What else we got?
But yeah, I, I, I'm going to say again, it would be a sick, uh, you know, 180
maneuver if, if Intel was able to get it nicely optimized and then bundle it with
their GPUs. I think that'd be awesome. One another good news WAN Show item.
Yes. Uh, just a reminder, guys, we are gearing up for good news WAN Show month next
month, April is going to be all good news WAN shows.
If it's not good news or can't at least be interpreted in a positive way, uh,
maybe we'll have a car vote for one bad news topic.
That's it. Maybe it's going to have to be important.
Very important, critical. Yeah. Critically important.
Yeah. Uh, so good news WAN Show is coming next month.
We're very excited for it. Also some other WAN Show news is we are going to be starting the WAN Show
transition quite soon. We're moving from the LTT channel to the LMG clips channel, which is soon to be
rebranded as the WAN Show that is going to start on April 3rd, 2026.
And for some period of time, it will stream to both channels simultaneously.
Uh, that soft transition is going to continue for some number of months.
And in the weeks leading up to the full final transition over to the WAN Show
channel, currently the LMG clips channel, we will be sure to make multiple
announcements so nobody gets lost trying to find the show.
I had a fun idea. Because you know how people can be resistant to, you know, change, you know,
how they can be, and, you know, there, there can be sort of, there's, there's a
friction to, you know, transition, you know, platform transition, even if it's
within the same platform.
What do you think of the idea of simultaneously streaming on both platforms
for a really long time? Really long time.
I'm talking like six months, but hear me out.
Every week, the YouTube stream gets reduced by like 50 kilobit per second.
There'd have to be, there'd have to be YouTube stream. I meant the line of tech channel stream.
I knew it. Yeah. So, so the LMG clips stream on YouTube would be full, full bit rate.
Uh, I think we'd have to have something explaining it. So, so, well, no, because the community will self police at that point, it will
make people go, Hey, what's going on? And then it will make people discuss it.
And then they'll go, Oh, okay. And then they can transition over to the other one.
Interesting. I wonder if I can lower the frame rate as well.
Uh, I'd say that would be towards the very end. Like where we start, we make it like 10 FPS, one, one FPS.
The WAN Show would be really funny. Yeah. And so, and so the whole, it might be too entertaining.
The whole conversation of it is just going to be, what the WTF is going on here?
Can't these guys run a live stream? And they'll be like, dude, they've been talking about this for six months.
Go watch it over here. Problem solved. And so we just, we make it like, we make it like a meme.
And then it can even be, you know, you can, you'll even have people that you know
are going to engage with this, like very stubbornly, like, I'm going to hold out
until the end. I will literally refuse until the final day.
I will be that last person playing Halo on Xbox 360. I will watch it 10 kilobits per second, you know, or whatever.
Like I think, I think that something like this would be a really good way to really
ease the transition. One oddly colored pixel.
The only thing coming through. Deep fried audio.
Yeah. Yeah, we could have, we could, we could go until we actually resemble, um,
someone pointed out the pixelated Linus and Luke. Hold on. I'm trying to find the old glitchy ones.
Oh, actually, I didn't mean that. I meant the, like in the intro.
Oh, I thought you meant the, like the ancient wanshows that are all corrupted on
YouTube? Oh, well, okay. Well, that's, hold on.
Huh? Wait, where are they? Yeah, I know these guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until we actually look more like these guys than like these guys.
You should just AI overlay us, turn us into pixel bros.
Someone pointed out, apparently Doug, Doug has a video on how people will be
stubborn in these situations or something. And like, yeah, absolutely.
There's a ton of people that won't, I think it's going to be a combination of people are going to be stubborn.
And also when we stop streaming on LTT, I think how the algorithm works in the
like viewers, like you watch this thing, therefore I will recommend it way.
I think a bunch of people won't even realize they're on a different channel. And, and with the slow transition, we'll also give the algorithm a lot of time
to learn who these overlapping audiences are. Yeah.
Um, so I'm, I'm, I kind of, because I don't want to mess with the audio.
I think we should leave the audio alone. I think that's fair.
But over time, we just degrade the video experience until finally we're down to
like, yeah, a couple of pixels kind of barely, barely even able to make out what
you're looking at. And we go, Hey guys, you may have noticed over the last few months that the
video quality on you, on the LTT channel has been a little on the low side.
This is the last WAN Show here. We're moving over to the new WAN Show channel.
And this is actually really important because the WAN Show is now officially
uh, co-owned by me and Luke 50%.
Um, and we have to have it on a separate channel, intellectual property, corporate
ownership, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. For the full plane people, I believe the plan right now is that it's,
it'll just be on the LMG channels. Yeah, I think, I do think we wanted to talk to Sammy and get it split out into
its own sub channel, but that does not mean it would be a new subscription.
That would literally actually just, we should just do that anyways.
Uh, cause it's for organizational reasons. So it just looks like this.
So on the side, you've got line of tech tips and then you've got all your various
sub channels. Uh, so we would just add a WAN Show one and then we can keep it kind of simple that
way. Yeah, speaking of Floatplane, Sammy has some Floatplane announcements that he wants us to talk about the Korean tech mall video was
released very early on Floatplane. If you don't want to wait till Monday to see that it is available right now.
Um, and this is, this is really how I felt when I had to go shopping.
Can I find what I forgot in Korea's largest tech mall? If you guys are regular WAN Show viewers, you'll know that I streamed from
South Korea last, last week, two weeks ago, times a blur.
I don't know, two weeks ago, two weeks ago. And not last week, at least I talked about how I forgot my camera and forgot my
microphone and forgot any means of setting it up in any ergonomic way.
So I had to go shopping even though I was actually on vacation and I wasn't planning
to make any videos. And if I'm going to go to a tech mall in a country that I've never made a
tech mall video in before, then I guess I might as well point a selfie camera at
myself. So it looks like, well, it looks like people are actually liking this video.
Wasn't it, wasn't it a WAN's idea too? Yeah, yeah. She was like, well, like you might as well just make a video because you're
going to go shopping anyway. Um, it had a really different vibe from a lot of our content because I shot the
whole thing myself, just me and an iPhone and a decent mic.
Well, I didn't have a camera operator. I wasn't, I'm, I'm, I'm realizing like literally this format of you
self-filming only really shows up sometimes in like maybe a scrapyard wars or
something like that. Yeah. It's, it's like, this is almost weird to see.
Yeah, I know, right? Like this would usually be like some video you would just DM me.
Like it's not, it's not really like, yeah, not a super common Linus angle on, on, on
the public video. It's a, it's a really, uh, it's, it's kind of a fun video because I, I end up
finding a lot of like really weird stuff. I'm excited for this one.
Like there's parts of this place that seem almost abandoned.
Um, like the amount of just random old systems and e-waste and like, like, oh,
there's a lot of e-waste and just vast empty hallways with just like garbage in
them and stuff. It's a, it's, it's kind of a weird video.
Interesting. Yeah. And it's, it's kind of a weird place.
Um, anyway, on top of that, I have more videos to release for you guys.
Wow. Look at that. Here's a second Dank Pods video.
Second collab with Dank Pods. Boom. Go on public.
His system got broken on his way to Whaleland because Wade apparently has
never seen the classic Linus Tech Tips episode, how to pack your PC.
What is this? What, who's this guy? Who's this guy?
How to pack your PC? 40. There it is.
Okay. Well, maybe we should have had a less click baity title.
How to not smash your PC. Gaming rig packing and moving guides.
So he should have watched that because it had a lot of tech tips that he could have
used his computer got all bashed up. It was making rattling noises when we, when I shook it to start the video.
Um, so I, I helped him fix it and then, and then my Linux curse struck.
So I fixed his computer in a hardware fashion and then broke it in the software
by just being there. I heard about that. I didn't do anything.
I had so many witnesses. Adam witnessed it. One of our new camera guys witnessed it.
Wade witnessed it. They saw me. I did nothing.
I broke his bass light and I'm sorry, but I didn't do anything.
I was just present. Yeah. Anyway, that's a, that's a pretty fun video.
It's a pretty good one. Uh, we also have extras from that video.
Um, finally we made a, an alternatives to discord video, giving you guys, uh, some,
some ideas for other software that you can use now that they've got their, um,
their, their ID stuff that they're working on.
I'm going to go ahead and make that live now as well. Lots of, lots of early access right now on Floatplane.
These all obviously come to YouTube. Oh, that's early access too. At some point we're a little late on that.
Yeah, but it's a, it's a good video actually. I watched it today. Cool. Yeah, it's, it's solid.
I'm, I'm actually really, it was one that was done when I wasn't here.
What? No, I just, uh, Nick, you're from the lab pointed out the other day that he, he
really likes Wendell's thumbnails and I just, oh man, there was a, there was
another one recently, um, this one.
That's what your, that's what your thumbnails look like when you actually
don't give any f***s how your video performs and you are just doing it for
the lulls just for the love of the game, man.
I love it. I love it. I respect it so much.
It's so, so based. What a guy. Just cute Wendell.
Oh man. All right.
Thank you for that. Uh, I can't tell what's going on right now.
Did I release everything that I was supposed to release? I think so.
I have the Wade video, the, sorry. I'm like doing actual work right now.
So I'm confused. Korean tech mall video. I released that one, the extras and the discord.
Did I get them all? Yes. Okay. I got them all. I think I'm good. I think so.
Awesome. So three early access videos now available at LMG.GG slash F.P.
WAN. Oh, do we have our own vanity? You're all I guess, I guess this is part of like making sure that you
get your commissions. It's just 50% only show.
Yeah. No, that's totally true. It's mostly only, only relevant if something fundamentally changes.
Yeah. But we do have to lay the groundwork now. It's really important to do it now.
Yeah. All right. You know what else is really important to do now is talk about how the
Supreme court in the US has ruled that ISPs, internet service providers are
not liable for user piracy on their networks.
A lawsuit between record labels and US ISP Cox communications over an
alleged failure to deter repeat piracy received a Supreme court ruling in
Cox's favor. I personally am also in favor of Cox.
Go Cox. They're a really, really big company.
Um, okay. Maybe. Well, in this case, in this specific case, uh, I remember actually, I
actually remember talking about this on land show like half a decade ago.
Like this has been, this has been gumming up the works for a long time. Oh, here it is.
Right in the notes. The case began in 2018 when record labels led by Sony and Warner said
that Cox received tens of thousands of infringement notices, identifying
repeat violators, but then failed to meaningfully suspend or terminate those
accounts, which is weird. Cause usually they usually they send out just such a surge of Cox argued that
previous rulings against it would force ISPs to act as copyright police, which
actually kind of a fair point. A 2019 jury in Virginia had found Cox liable and awarded a billion
dollars in damages, a billion dollars in damages to my Cox, not to my Cox.
No, I won't stand for it. The fourth circuit court of appeals threw out the damages and part of the
liability and ordered a new trial to determine damages.
Cox then asked the Supreme court to intervene.
Um, yeah, it's hard to really be on the side of big ISPs.
I'm also wondering if this could be a bad thing. Cause would this, could this shift attention to users?
Possibly. But then if the ISPs are not liable, then you can guarantee that they're
not going to like do the work care and cooperate anymore than they like
absolutely have to, because at the end of the day, you don't want to be the ISP
that customers start talking about how you get people like sued for piracy.
And the whole going after end users thing proved to be so unpopular back in
the early 2000s that the record labels gave up.
Yeah. Yeah. Like there, there are, yeah, there are artists who even still today wear that,
that cone of shame for, for going after individuals downloading their songs.
Like I just, I don't, I don't see it happening.
Then again, hey, the world keeps finding new ways to be even more dystopian.
So no guarantees, but this does seem like overall for user pie, excuse me,
privacy, um, a plus.
Uh, and if you happen to be a pirate, then it also seems like a plus for that as well.
Here's a downer, Qualcomm shut the door on Snapdragon X DSP headers, open
sourcing and Linux support hopes seem to be fading.
Qualcomm has closed a GitHub issue, requesting open source DSP headers for
Snapdragon X chips with a blunt, no plans for that as of now.
Linux can still boot on Snapdragon X laptops, but without full DSP headers,
full upstream support for things like audio sensors and NPU offloading remain
out of reach. This is, uh, interesting move, not in with the current vibe, bold move.
Yeah. This may help explain why Tuxedo canceled its Snapdragon X one elite Linux laptop
after 18 months of development and canonical still relies on patched packages
and a Qualcomm specific work in progress kernel.
I also find it interesting because at their summit that they had, which myself
and Nick and Lucas attended, I would genuinely say the most prevalent topic
of question that was at like the panel and when we're walking around talking
to people and stuff was based around Linux. There was a lot of people in the audience that were very Linux
build, I think probably, and I think Qualcomm recognized this a higher
percentage than probably users, to be honest. Well, yeah, because when you're a brand new hardware with, you know, brand new,
wait, let's, let's face it, especially in the earlier days of Windows on ARM.
It was very much a very, it was a really similar set of trade offs as running on
Linux, some of your software wouldn't work. You'd have to be willing to deal with like kind of hacky work around.
There were benefits to battery life. Game changing at the time.
That was before Intel had some really competitive mobile offerings in terms
of battery life and AMD too, for that matter. But so it's, so it seems to me that it kind of makes sense that you'd have
a kind of similar user archetype, someone who is willing to put up with
some pain in order to try something new and, or get some benefit that is
very meaningful to them and they publicly promised continued Linux
upstreaming work back in 2024.
And so I'm looking at this going like, guys, you're already niche.
You already seem to be having a hard time making inroads.
And I understand why the temptation would be to see that fact that your volumes
are pretty low and, and kind of circle the wagons, you know, focus on, focus
on the biggest piece of the pie, the biggest prize.
Hear me out. Go completely the opposite direction.
I think so. Be the king. I think so.
Of how well you support open source platforms.
You will get a really hardcore, very vocal, in a good way for you audience, if
you are able to accomplish that. And they tend to be evangelists.
They tend to be the kinds of people who, who will wait until something is, if
we're being real, not really good enough for mainstream. And then they'll be like, boy, it's so good.
It's great. You, everyone should try it. And it's way better to have those guys on your side right now than to just
alienate them. And then also really not about that, which is not good for you.
Not offer anything interesting to the mainstream normies.
Right now you're, you're, you're doing neither.
And, and I don't think this is going to work out great. Cause I could see, like I could see Qualcomm, like they have pretty
compelling gaming performance, for instance, at least the, the new generation
is, are they out or they rumored? I can't remember. Whatever that, but, but their GPUs are pretty solid.
And I could see Qualcomm being a legitimate contender in things like handheld
Windows gaming machines. Sure. Why not? Definitely.
Why not? Honestly, with, with some of their mini PCs, they're showing off and stuff
totally makes sense. But now you're going up against the Steam Deck.
You know, if I'm, if I'm someone who's designing a piece of handheld
hardware today, would I want to be able to support all the various operating
systems that can run on it? Would I want to be able to run Steam OS?
Would I want to be able to run Bazite? Would I want to be able to run?
Uh, what, what's the, the Windows, um, game optimized mode called?
We worked on with the Xbox team, whatever that, that thing. I'd want to be able to run all of them.
I think shutting a door right now.
Feels like completely failing to read the room.
Yeah. Which makes sense. Because how can you read a room when the door into it is closed?
My God. You don't have to call me that on camera.
Oh, my.
Gross. Uh, I love teasing it.
Uh, all right. Next topic. Oh, this is great.
EU consumer protections strike again.
You want to do this one? Sure. Uh, this follows the unrelated news that Nintendo is cutting switch to production.
Hey, I see you pressing that button, Dan.
Oh, was it you? That was Dan. I don't even know what button.
He matched the narcissist button like 25 times.
Um, yeah, so Nintendo is cutting switch to production by 33% after a poor
performance during the holiday season. Okay, that's bad news. Approximately a cut of two million units this year.
Wow, crazy. Wait, did you give the good news yet? No one predicted this at all.
Hmm, interesting. If only there was more than two games for it.
Wow. Um, the good news for it. Yeah, it's in the title.
Oh, I thought you read the whole title. No, I didn't. EU consumer protection strike again.
I knew switch to revision with a removable battery. That's cool.
To repeat it reportedly release there.
Oh, in the EU. Yeah. And then maybe potentially the US and North America.
Maybe, I mean, even if it didn't, I would imagine would import them. The gray market for switch twos with the removable battery would be like stonks.
Big time. That'd be sick.
And why not? Why shouldn't it have a removable battery? That sounds great.
I mean, it's not, it's not a phone, right? Like I can, I can actually really understand it with a phone.
It's tightly integrated device that literally has to fit in my pocket.
I have to be able to take it into the swimming pool and take, you know, pictures of, you know,
my kids learning to swim or whatever it is that I'm doing with my stupid phone.
But something like a game console. I don't need it to be 0.3 millimeters thinner.
I think it's probably fine for it to just have a removable battery.
This is so cool. Yeah, I think people don't care at all. Freaking love it.
I, the switch is boring.
I think I'm going to sell mine. Oh, it's boring.
I played some Mario Kart world with my son on the plane on a recent trip.
It was good. We played for a bit. It's all right. I hate that game.
It's, it's, um, it's really sweaty.
The best Mario Kart experience. No way to win whatsoever.
If you, there's no way to even be remotely competitive.
If you don't sweat super hard, which I find pretty not fun.
Mario Kart game, bro. Yeah. What are we doing? Like if you want to play, why is it like under map mechanics?
If you want to play a settle Corsa, like play that, you know, like can Mario Kart
be Mario Kart? And I understand that some people want to play Mario Kart super sweaty.
And I get that. You can though, but you can play super sweaty without literally driving on a
completely different track that the other players don't know are there because
they didn't do hours of research. Yeah, like in Mario Kart eight and deluxe and whatever else, like the variance
of it, you could absolutely be super sweaty, but the gap between you and
everybody else is not going to be anywhere near as enormous as Mario Kart
world. Um, and in my opinion, the mechanics are way more fun, um, decently, heavily
incentivizing drifting more than world does pretty in line with eight.
In my opinion is a great thing for the game because everyone can drift.
It's very simple, but getting it so that like the lines are really perfect and
stuff is a skill gap and it's really hard and it's rewarding, but it's not
like game breakingly rewarding. Yeah, like I just, like there was one that I was in first and my son was in
like sixth and he just like took a shortcut I didn't know about and one.
And it's like, like I'm not, I'm not like mad about it because it's just
Mario Kart. Yeah. But that's also the, that's also the other thing though is like, it's just
Mario Kart. Why do we need to do that? Why do we need to have? There's always been shortcuts to a certain degree, but they were small.
They're usually very small. They were small and, and maybe you could gain a position and they could be
very difficult to execute often in a really brutal way.
Yes. Where you would only really take it if you kind of needed to. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you'd honestly be better off with a mushroom in a lot of
cases or the shortcuts are, are, are kind of everywhere.
And you can just, you know, like blast across a corner with a mushroom instead
of, you know, going through the, like going over grass or whatever obvious.
Yeah. Maybe you, maybe you do it wrong on like the first lap, but then you know from
then on stuff where the track just like splits into two and half of the AIs are
going left and half of them are going right. And you just like don't know which way you're supposed to go.
It's just that's not a race anymore. That's maze path finding.
And I understand a lot of people are having a lot of fun with Mario Kart
world, but if the switch sales or anything to go by, a lot of people also
just like kind of aren't. Yeah. Um, Benanzas supposed to be really good.
I haven't played it.
I feel like I'll probably like play that and then sell it.
Yeah. I could see that. I could see that. I mean, Emma's super, super into Donkey Kong.
So I bought Benanzas for like her to play on the switch and then the house.
So neither of us have played it, but we'll probably play through that.
And then yeah, there's nothing else pulling me towards the switch too.
That feels worth it for the device cost. If that makes sense.
Yeah. Yeah, we've got some pretty good news about graphing OS, but let's get through
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I don't want to pay for Slack. Slack is a little bit less expensive than I thought.
I don't want a little bit less expensive. We're free.
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Oh, really? Yeah. There's definitely your pay for.
There is. Yeah. And we have a really weird team structure.
Self-host Mattermost. Mattermost is being getting really weird. You should look into that.
We have such a weird team structure. Like for a piece of software.
For a 100 person company, we do so much different stuff.
It's crazy. Like there are companies our size whose entire thing is they just like make drill bits.
And everyone just is moving in one direction, like making drill bits.
Like I, we have a peril and we have like like engineered goods and we have a video platform
and we have flip in an events business and production company and just procurement is
makes us so weird.
Like none of the film production software includes an entire procurement chain.
Right. Because why would you have to procure something in order to make your video?
Well, because for us, unless we have the thing, we can't make a video about it.
And we have to have sometimes 40 things for one video of the, you know.
Like an AMD ultimate tech upgrade. Yeah, even more.
And then we release like hundreds of videos a quarter, which also no one does.
Yeah. So ironically teams is like actually set up really well for us because we have all of
the different channels and things. Yeah.
You can do that in lots of platforms. Yeah.
But on Slack, we can't dictate the order. Yeah.
But you can give people packages and stuff like that. Like there's ways to make it better.
I do agree that that sucks. You can't build someone's hierarchy for them.
That's also like, do we need that?
Yeah. Can we just figure out something else?
To save $800 billion.
Well, it wouldn't save money if we went to Slack compared to Teams.
Oh, no. I mean, like something self-hosted or like one of the other ones.
If Discord had better user management, we could use Discord, but it's like kind of meh.
Kind of meh.
Sorry.
A particular colleague just sent a video of one of their kids that their kid asked them
to send to me and it's of them driving around and you know those like really rugged cardboard
boxes that you can get for free at Costco? Yeah.
They're like sitting in it like a car and they've like made a little dashboard and they're
like dry scooting around on the floor and he's like kicking the thing so that it like
goes for a little bit. And I was just like, why do we buy them expensive toys?
It's great. I love to see kids using imagination, man.
It's refreshing. My eldest daughter is getting into this, I forget what it's called, but it's this animation
platform on the iPad that you draw every frame and she made this little, she's made a couple
little like short things that one of them is cats catching mice and then at the end of
her kind of punch line is she has a shot of just like a pile of dead rats and mice
and the mice go on to, I don't know, she's an interesting child.
I mean every child's an interesting child, she's really into cats and then that's why
she chose cat as her stage name. Like she's just like very into cats.
We were in Korea recently, we went all the way around the world and nobody she wanted
to do, she wants to go to a cat cafe. Literally, we have cat at home.
We have many cat at home.
Anyway, she made another one that's like this dragon thing that goes and it does a thing
and I don't know. It's pretty cool and as far as I'm concerned, we have car votes in our screen time rules
for if you are making something.
Sure. So if you are designing something for 3D printing, that doesn't count.
If you are doing an animation or you're like making a stop motion thing with your phone
or whatever, that doesn't count. And it's really cool.
Google Family Link actually has some wonderful tools for carving out particular apps, particular
times so that you can say, okay, yeah, you get like 45 minutes of general use.
This particular app is limited to like 15 minutes and these apps you can use anytime you want
as much as you want. Really awesome.
So like something like I have Kindle Unlimited so they're allowed to read as much as they
want on the Kindle. I don't care. I don't care if they're looking at a screen or at a paper page.
At that age, all I care about is their reading.
So you can fine tune that. It's pretty cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Graphene OS. Yeah.
Has flatly refused to comply with emerging laws requiring operating systems to collect
age data at setup. Base. They have said they will never require personal information, ID or an account.
Base. In their Twitter statement, they said, if Graphene OS devices can't be sold in a region
due to their regulations, so be it.
Base. The statement was prompted by Brazil's digital ECA law taking effect March 17th with carries
fines of up to $9.5 million per violation.
California's similar law takes effect January 2027.
This stance creates a real problem for Graphene OS's new Motorola partnership, which was announced
at Mobile World Congress. A hardware vendor selling devices globally would have to comply with local laws in every
market it ships to, meaning that Motorola may have to restrict sales of Graphene OS phones
geographically. Linus comment.
I hadn't seen that until now.
Base. I genuinely didn't read that.
I don't think we need to get further into like, what are these laws?
Are they supposedly about protecting kids? What are they actually for?
Collecting data. Let's move on to something that's more exciting.
Maybe you'll have to go on to a road trip outside of California to buy your phone.
Like Samsung. Saying that airdrop support is enabled by default after all on Galaxy phones.
They're rolling it out to Galaxy S26 devices via a 1 UI 8.5 update, letting users share files
directly with iPhones, iPads, and Macs through QuickShare.
No third-party apps needed. The feature is enabled by default through Samsung's, though Samsung's own promotional
video initially showed it as off, causing some confusion before the company clarified.
Google figured out how to make this work without Apple's involvement when it launched on Pixel
10 last year, and Samsung is now the second Android OEM to get it, with no word yet on
when other Galaxy devices will follow.
Our discussion question is now that airdrop works both ways, and green message bubbles
are no longer the social albatross that they once were.
Are there any major friction points that will remain?
I'd say FaceTime would be a big one. Status.
Status? Yeah. I think people still think you're weird.
That's so funky, because I don't want this to come across the wrong way, because I don't
care, but my Android costs more than your iPhone.
Why do you think your iPhone is a status symbol? I don't know.
Okay. I'm just trying to... I don't get it.
I'm just trying to understand it. I have an old crappy phone at this point.
I don't care. I never cared.
All right. I think it's such a silly thing.
I mean, I think caring about like, oh, they have an old car.
Therefore, poor, therefore bad is stupid, let alone phones.
I think the whole thing is just dumb.
I'm the wrong person to consult on this.
I will never understand.
You didn't waste your money on some device that's just going to basically be useless
in three to five years? Okay.
Cool. My car is 60 this year, says gas racing and Floatplane chat.
Sick. That's pretty cool. Sick.
There's definitely a... There's definitely a... You know, this...
Yeah. They become expensive again after they get out.
Yeah. What? Yeah.
No one in Floatplane chat gets it or cares.
Yeah. Which, I mean, makes sense.
But iPhone users. Plada says most people I know with nicer cars are broke AF.
Yeah, this is kind of my point. Yeah.
I got to say, I do find like the car situation a little confusing.
Like, I...
People in general seem to spend a lot more of their income on their car than I ever have.
It's so weird. I don't get it at all.
You know how long I drove the Super Civic. Oh, yeah.
And then you know how long I drove the Volt. Yeah.
You literally know the finances of the company.
I've driven all of your cars. Really?
I never put that together until you just listed it that out.
But did you own a car before the Super Civic? You could hand me down?
I did. Yeah, I had a Volkswagen Jetta. Never mind.
Yeah, you never drove that one. Because you had a... You also had a Golf.
Yeah, yeah, that was Yvonne's before I brought the Minivan. Yeah.
Have you ever driven our Minivan? Okay, no. Okay, he missed the Minivan.
I did drive the Golf. I think you're still over 50%. Yeah.
But you've never ridden my bike. No. At least not once.
I'll let you ride big if you want, though. The weight balance of that would be kind of crazy.
That would be kind of crazy because you're up higher too. Yeah, I did ride on the back of a moped with Dennis and Taipei.
Yeah, that was scary. That was a little nuts. That was pretty scary.
That was a little wild.
So... Luke's lived in all of Linus's houses too?
Oh, yeah, that. No. No, not in the current one.
Yeah. Although I did offer while you had your issues recently to let you come live with us.
And he refused. He wouldn't. He didn't want that Pokemon.
I stayed at my parents.
So I'd be down here. You'd be up here.
I mean, I'd give it a shot. Even with Yvonne or my son when he was quite a bit younger, I think he was probably about
10 when I was riding with him on the back.
Way a lot less than you. I don't know if I could balance that bike with you on it.
And you'd be up so high and your legs are not really that long that you would not be
able to put your foot down until we were quite horizontal.
And also this is really hot if it was operating.
So that could be really dangerous. Is there foot placements?
Yeah. The pegs are. It's a little too pixely, but yeah, I can imagine.
Yeah. Yeah. So you put these down and then you're pegging.
It would look hilarious. It would look so ridiculous.
You would look like you'd look like Donkey Kong and Mario Kart on my bike, like sitting
on the back of it like that. Ridiculous.
Yeah. Next topic.
TCL has been banned from calling some of its TVs QLED due to a lack of dots.
That is to say a lack of cadmium and indium in the optical sheets for their TVs.
They also found this, so this is a Munich court.
They also found that this meant the TVs did not have the color performance that is normally
associated with quantum dot or QLED technology.
This ruling comes as a result of a lawsuit filed by Samsung where they commissioned testing
of TCL displays and accused them of misleading consumers in their marketing.
TCL and Hisense are also facing class action lawsuits in the U.S. over the marketing of
QLED TVs.
I actually support Samsung's efforts here.
It's kind of based. I had a recent experience with a TV manufacturer where they talked to me and explained and
showed some of the work that they do not to reverse engineer their competitors' products,
but to evaluate their competitors' products.
So the kinds of breakdowns that they'll do on it to really understand the performance
of their competitors' products so they know what they're up against.
We'll have a video on this pretty soon, but there were some shocking revelations that
unless you have the engineering expertise to literally disassemble the TV and watch it
operate and get scopes on it and really know what it's doing, you would never know.
There's much like you see in phone benchmarking or much like we've seen over the years in
phone benchmarking. There's a lot of cheating that can be done when TVs are detecting particular test patterns
or scenes and it's getting harder and harder to not only stop that cheating but even notice
it because it's a feature, not a bug, that every TV these days has an AI processor in
it that is analyzing everything on the screen.
So they really do know everything they're displaying and they can tune the image and
they can tune the behavior of the TV accordingly.
Samsung actually has gotten caught doing things like that, like boosting their brightness
during test patterns. If I recall correctly, that was on what the S95B.
Let me know in chat if anyone remembers. I'm pretty sure that was the thing, but I don't want to say that and be wrong.
Come on. Anyone? Was that Samsung?
We could talk about this cute little 14-year-old ThinkPad.
This was fun that got upgraded for 25 bucks.
No one. No one. Still no one.
Yeah, a YouTuber named Onion Boots set out to make a near-perfect ThinkPad since the
peeling energy star sticker was just enough to justify it never becoming a display piece.
The near-perfect ThinkPads general specs are a third gen Intel Core i5-2230M or an i7-3520M.
Isn't this a specific model? I don't know. Okay.
16GB of DDR3 and a 12.5-inch LED backlit TN panel at 1366x768.
Ooh, that display is a yikes. The display is kind of the biggest problem here.
It's a decent amount of memory, actually. Onion Boots claims that it's not a full HD mod, but rather a simple swap to an IPS LG panel.
It's from the same year and has the same resolution, a little unfortunate, but the jump from TN to
IPS is pretty sweet. Onion Boots simply didn't feel comfortable with soldering.
Yeah. It's only 25 bucks. Anyway, I just thought it was cool.
Hey, don't forget. That's actually pretty legit. Older laptops.
Sometimes you can improve your display, throw an SSD in it.
They can be very usable, especially with something like, I don't know, Linux Mint.
My discussion question here, though, is actually kind of unrelated.
Can we stop doing this?
Tom's hardware. Oh, yeah.
Bro has a name. Bro has a channel name.
Okay. Yeah. It's here.
And you do eventually get into it.
One intrepid YouTuber. Uh-huh.
Uh-huh. Okay. Where do we get the YouTuber Onion Boots?
How far below the fold are we here?
How would you like it? If instead of saying the article that brought this to my attention was Tom's hardware, I
said, traditional written media site reports that a YouTuber has upgraded their 14-year-old
ThinkPad. Can we not? We all have names.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Oh, I've watched Onion Boots before.
I was going to say, I feel like I recognize this channel, but yeah, there's one video
that went freaking crazy. But maybe it would be pretty good for their channel if everyone who reported on the cool
work that they're doing maybe named them in the headline.
That would be pretty cool. It is a super cool video though.
If you think the laptop video is neat but isn't going to draw you in, Onion Boots has a video
called a web revival. The internet didn't die.
You're just not on it. And this video is awesome. It's really cool.
So maybe check it out. It talks about websites like this that is his that are up right now, which feel like older
website. It talks about how a lot of these older style websites link to each other.
And it's like a cool old surfing the web style feeling that you can find on the internet
if you go to these different sites. So check that video.
It's cool. He references a bunch of different ones that you could go check out.
Yeah, it's actually just genuinely awesome video.
Can you play Mind Sweeper in the background of that site?
Is that what I'm looking at here?
Hold on. Hold on a minute here.
Are you kidding me right now? So I think it's not like I'm doing it as well.
And I'm clearly not playing like with you. So it's it's local.
But yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, that's Mind Sweeper. That's that's a that's a Mind Sweeper.
If I've ever seen one.
Something I have always name your egg.
Egg hatching in 21 seconds. This feels very neo pets.
Yeah, there's a bunch of very, very cool, very cool video.
And it links to other people's sites.
Oh, whoops. Oh crap. I clicked the wrong side of my trackpad.
Don't play mine. Don't play Mind Sweeper with a trackpad.
Yeah. Anyways. Cool.
Valve has finally detailed steam machines verified program at
GDC 2026. Valve confirms that games need to set stable 1080p 30 FPS in
order to earn the steam machine verified badge.
So the same performance bar as steam deck verified just at a
higher resolution. Any game that is already deck verified automatically qualifies
and the steam machine is confirmed to have six times the
performance of the deck. This 30 FPS floor is just the minimum for the badge.
Valve has previously said that most steam titles can hit 4K 60
FPS on the hardware as long as you enable FSR upscaling.
Our discussion question. Oh, it's an interesting one actually.
Sony and Microsoft tell you exactly what their consoles can do
at launch. I mean, sort of. Many games do have a performance or quality toggle now, but
that our discussion question goes on to ask is Valves at
depends on the game approach good enough for people who want
the simplicity of just plugging something into their TV and
pressing play. So don't know that Sony and Microsoft's ones are always
necessarily fully true. No, but they definitely simplified the message.
Yeah. And you mostly understand what you're getting.
I mean, Sony had that whole debacle where they had 8K L over
the packaging for the PS5 and then just kind of quietly removed
it.
It seems like it wasn't a problem. I understand the argument and I think it's valid.
I think the audience for steam stuff is a little bit different.
I think so too. I also think that the way that they're positioning this by
saying like pretty much everything's going to be fine.
I think we'll kind of whisk that away a little bit and I suspect
there'll be an understanding that like at launch and Xbox is
going to play a certain amount of games and at launch the steam
machine is going to play. Damn, you're freaking everything and you're going to have to
understand that there's going to be some scale there. I'm going to come out and say most people don't care.
Yeah. And like, but really actually don't care.
And the people who do probably know better than to buy a steam
machine and expect to run at, you know, 4K 120 FPS.
Okay. So you can run stars and on Linux.
So if you can play games like that, I mean, according to AI,
you did the thing. I found myself doing this.
I saw this. Okay. All right.
Okay. Good. But checking.
Yeah. Sometimes I do the thing, Luke. I try to resist.
I try to resist too. I saw that. I saw that Reddit thread where it says I run stars is it on
my Linux box. I use Arch by the way. I have no issues whatsoever.
You can see the, I still didn't click through, but I saw this.
Yep. But I, yeah, I try to resist. Hey, Reddit wants your click.
Make sure to support Reddit. I did click on it. Small up and coming platforms like Reddit need your help.
I was going to say, yeah, but it's like, you know, if you're
able to run games like that, like, damn, how are they supposed to
verify stuff? Yeah. What does run stars doesn't mean?
Whatever. I think their explanation is pretty good. I totally understand the discussion question.
I think it's a fair thing to point out. It isn't as clear and easy as the console ones, but I kind of
prefer this because it feels a lot more legit. And I hope that people read it properly.
Yeah. Our last big topic here.
Anthropics Claude can now, I'm no, I'm sticking with my
pronunciation cloud. Oh, I see. Can now control your computer.
Anthropic has launched a research preview of computer use for
cloud pro and max subscribers on macOS, letting cloud open apps,
navigate browsers, fill spreadsheets and handle multi-step
tasks on your computer. It pairs with dispatch, a new mobile tool that lets you assign
tasks to cloud from your phone and have it execute them on
your desktop. Anthropic warns the features early can still make mistakes
and they advise against giving it access to sensitive data for
now. Cloud will always ask permission before accessing new apps.
Linus comment, this is, yeah, when I posted the news and the
news feed, what could go wrong?
Even Microsoft has been restrained enough to not just let
co-pilot do stuff on your computer, which I've talked about.
Defeats the purpose of even having an AI assistant on my
computer. If it can't do anything, then what's the point of it?
But also, that's totally fine. Well, it looks like Anthropic has kind of gone, oh yeah, what is
the point of an AI assistant on your computer if it can't just
completely do stuff for you?
And now we get this. This was the wrong answer, but I guess we have it now.
Now what?
So I was just reading a very confusing comment.
I don't know, there's been multiple things have been able to do
this already. I think by adding it to Cloud Pro and Macs, you're bringing it
to more mainstream people, which is going to be freaking spicy.
I do think it's really interesting that the thing that
Microsoft was pushing is going to happen on Mac from someone
else before it will happen on Windows with co-pilot.
Yeah, it's pretty funny.
Just Windows doing, Microsoft doing current era Microsoft
things, I guess.
Yeah, interesting. Kids Lane in the Floor Plane Chat says, my AI assistant cannot
stop ordering candles. Help. I had somebody invite their AI assistant to a Discord call
that we were in the other day and prompted it with voice in
the Discord call and then told it to leave the Discord call
and it disconnected.
It's a weird world. People living on the edge are doing some crazy stuff right now.
Yeah, it's interesting. I was looking into, I really want to have a local setup going.
And I was looking into building one and just RAM.
Holy God.
You can borrow mine.
It's like... If he wants the experience of setting it up, he doesn't
actually want to use it.
I feel called out as well.
That's the whole thing. That's like my whole life.
That's why we get each other.
Because I'm the kind of person who loves building gaming PCs
but doesn't actually game that much. You know?
All right. I see you. I didn't know Luke felt like that too.
I do want to use it but I'm not going to end up using it as much.
You're not going to use it. I'm not going to use it enough to justify it.
Hey, have you tried your big screen beyond yet?
No. Yeah, have you? But I looked into setting it up because the room that...
Okay, so the computers are in a different room now.
So where the base stations were set up is not where the
computers are anymore.
So I'm trying to figure out how to deal with that. Do it eventually.
Yeah, yeah. Who's going to do it? The new room that the computers are set up in, there is less space.
Who's going to do it? So I've been trying to figure out basically, is it worth it
to get another pair of base stations basically
and have base stations in there in the smaller room
that I can use at my desk with my computer?
Base stations? More like based stations.
What a solution. I love it. Or should I just put them up where they were
and then find some way to tether all the way into the other room?
Long range tether. Risky. Yeah.
And I don't want to have a separate box in that other room.
That sucks. Yeah, that's... RAM expensive.
Yeah. Just like as far as I can tell everyone else, I'd really
rather not build a computer right now.
So it's like, okay.
But yeah, the amount of available space in the room that
the computer is in now is kind of rough. So it's like, okay.
And another annoying thing. We asked them not to seal over the holes for the screws
where the base stations were. And they left one of them just fine, but they totally
sealed over the other one. So now you have to put a hole in your wall.
Yeah, two of them. Two holes. I think it's two.
Pretty sure it's two. Two holes. Do they make a half though?
Super long cable. That's what we were just saying. Bernardo Baruch, I'm fine.
This is not an injection site for my horrible addiction.
I just... That would be a kind of brutal spot.
Oh my God. I dived for an epic badminton return and it was amazing.
And I slid on my elbow.
Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. Don't do it at all, but especially not there.
I mean, you might not do it again.
Not medical advice. Yeah, that's true.
All right. Let's jump into After Dark. Are we at After Dark time?
Let's do it. I think so. Let's do this thing.
See, it's the common curse. You said it was going to be such an incredibly long show.
And now we're at After Dark before we were last time.
That's how it works. Oh yeah.
How'd that happen? Oh, the show's going to be really, really short this week.
And then it's... Yeah, what's up with that?
Every time you complain that there's no topics, it's a five hour show.
And every time there's too many topics, it's really fast.
I wonder if it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think maybe because you're trying to correct for...
Yeah. We're just too good at correcting for the amount of topics.
How many years have you guys been doing this?
At least one. Factually correct.
Yeah. All right. Let's see what we have for you today.
Hey, tall, tall and short. I hope it's a good news WAN Show.
You were correct. It's pretty nice. I'm trying to find a good recommendation for a CPU upgrade for my friend,
still on AM4 because 5800X3Ds are gone.
Are the XT CPUs worth upgrading?
In my opinion, no, not really.
Yeah, that's a tough one because on the one hand,
an AM4 chip is still good enough to game.
You're not giving up much as soon as you're up at 1440p
unless you have a God tier GPU.
So the good news is they're probably having a pretty good experience.
The bad news is that if they want to upgrade at this point,
their options are kind of limited without going for a full new platform,
which I would assume we're trying to avoid spending money on DDR5.
Yeah, this is a little off-topic, but that is one of the things I was looking into
is what is the most cranked processor I can get that's still DDR4?
Intel. Because the price saving is...
I was thinking 5950X, but I have not done very much looking into this.
I wouldn't want to spend that kind of money on an old platform.
So 5950X, you're spending $336,
and the bad news about that is you're not really getting much
out of the other eight cores from a gaming standpoint.
Oh, yeah. In my perspective, I'm not gaming.
Right. Yeah, so there you go.
I mean, this is... It's okay, but by the time I'm spending $300...
I wonder if these went up because of the whole RAM thing.
Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yeah, it's been a thing.
Hold on. Intel, what are the bloody new ones called?
I think it was ASRock or something. Did that like, oh, it's DDR5 and DDR4 on the same motherboard thing?
I wish they would just have the... I don't know, the cone is to just...
It's just DDR4. Whatever. Modern CPU, four slots, DDR4.
Go for it. $12700K is what Pankrats is recommending.
$12700K. Yeah. That's probably well...
Ooh, that's actually... Oh, that's a new price. Hold on.
Let me find it on eBay or something.
Where the bloody hell are the core Ultras, the new ones?
Oh, yeah, those are still... They're kind of...
Okay. Ooh, expensive. So by the time you're spending that kind of money,
this is a much faster chip.
And this guy. This guy is actually like kind of stellar for $220 bucks.
Those plus chips are pretty wicked. I wish building computers was like a thing that people were doing right now,
because it was so sad seeing that video like not just get like 2 million views
because everyone's so hyped on the new processors. Yeah, like that...
Dude, the core Ultra5 250K plus, awful name.
Pretty exciting chip.
Yeah. And just no one can afford RAM.
Yeah. But by the time I've saved $100 compared to that 5950X, right?
Because I'm getting 18 cores. Yeah, not all of them are performance cores or whatever,
but I'm getting 18 cores now instead of 16 cores.
Like let's have a look at 16 gigs DDR5.
Remember, I just saved $100. Yeah.
So yeah, it's $220 for DDR5,
but I can probably sell my DDR4 for some money.
And now all of a sudden I'm... Okay, now I'm getting like a whole platform upgrade.
I'm moving to PCA Gen 5. I just by design it feels like AMD by no longer producing X3D chips for the AM4 platform
is kind of undercutting what was supposed to be one of the promises of that platform
is having that upgrade path. And in some ways it's not AMD's fault
because they had no way of knowing that the second hand market for these X3D chips
was going to go absolutely besonkers. Yeah.
But on the other hand, they totally probably could make X3D chips
and then AM4 users who didn't go X3D earlier would have an upgrade path.
But you can see, it's one of those funny things.
It's like back when I bought a minivan and I realized that it wasn't cheaper to buy a used one
per sort of usable remaining low maintenance life
because everyone had made the same spreadsheet that I did.
Yeah. In the same way, everyone has access to the same performance data that I do
and that you do and is doing the same calculation going,
okay, how do we position our products so that they're like,
you know, these ones are pretty okay, but what you really want is this one.
And so they're looking at RAM pricing. They're balancing that against how much their CPUs cost
and their motherboard's cost and they're trying to make it. They're trying to make the one they want you to buy more compelling
and the one they don't want you to buy less compelling. So that's probably the route that I would go right now
if you were looking for a serious upgrade on AM4 and X3D is not really an option.
And Pankrat's advice is pretty good.
What do you say, $12,700K? Yeah.
That's a really solid option as well. I'm just, I'm a little worried that while we are saving some money
by sticking with the DDR4, we're changing our motherboard and we're changing our CPU
and I'm not sure if we're getting enough of an upgrade for that in-game.
I think it's really going to depend on your local market too.
That, yeah, 100%. Yeah. And what's nice about my option of going DDR5 now,
even though like that sucks, is that DDR4 is also benefiting from the Rampock ellipse in terms of its value.
So the fact that you have some DDR4 helps take a little bit of a bite
out of that DDR5 upgrade. Yeah.
All right, hit me, Dan.
Hi, LLD. My dad has been stealing my screwdriver a lot lately,
so I'm getting one for his birthday. Nice.
What is your favorite present that you have received from your kids
or your parents from you? Oh, wow, favorite present from my kids.
There's a really cute one they made me.
They made me an iPad that was like a little,
not like a pop-up book,
but like a lift-the-flap thing.
So it has a whole bunch of apps on it. And then in each app, they wrote something nice under it.
That's cool. It's really cute. Yvonne helped them make it.
Oh, you know what? There was another really good one they did for me. They made me pajamas that had vinyl iron-on things of just things I like.
So it has like a badminton racket on it and like a cat
and like a bunch of just like kind of random stuff like that.
I wore those into the crown. Usually Yvonne is the actual driver of the stuff that my kids give me that I really like.
That makes sense. I don't need anything from my kids.
Their smile when I walk in the door is like realistically all I ever hope to need from them.
Hallmark card. Sorry? Hallmark card.
I don't want a Hallmark card. It sounds like what's on a Hallmark card.
Oh, sure. I'd rather have nothing than like spending, wasting $6 so much on a card 13.
I don't know how much a Hallmark card costs. They're insane.
It's so stupid. No dog.
I'm going to hear about saying that, but I stand by it. They're ridiculous.
I don't know if it's necessarily my favorite, but one of a very memorable one for me is,
you know, when you turn 16, at least up here, there's a lot of conversations around like,
are your parents going to get you a car?
That was not going to be a thing for us, but my dad bought me.
It's supposed to be a gift from you two, your parents.
Hallmark card. No, I've got some cool ones.
I'm trying to think of like, what's the...
I mean, I think the one you did this year was really cool.
Did I talk about that? I mean, it's up to you. It's over now, so no one's going to harass you there.
Lord of the Rings was like a huge thing for my family. Like my mom has a huge like chest of memorabilia from back then.
We won some like call-in contests that I think you had to like,
know details with the movies or something to try to win,
to get us an advanced screening for, I believe it was two towers.
I won that. I think I brought my mom.
I think it was, sorry, I said it the other way around. It was my mom and I that went, I think it was, I think I won it.
Anyways, whatever. Very, very, very into Lord of the Rings and they had a 25-year
anniversary thing this year and the Hobbits and the actor for
Gimli and the actor for Faramir were all going to be there
and you could do like meet and greets and photos and stuff. And I got everybody tickets to go there and like meet people
and whatnot. And it's interesting. I think I talked about that a little bit on the show here,
but it's interesting how it kind of went.
Yeah, I know it wasn't how you expected. No, I mean the show was terribly ran.
It was actually like kind of fascinating how poorly the show was ran.
I talked to, there was somebody there. I don't remember his name right now.
I hope I gave him a shout out last time I talked about it, but there was somebody there that like really helped our
experience not be really terrible, which was awesome.
Oh, someone in chat said John Rhys Davies is a bundle of joy.
Yeah, he was like amazing. And from watching the movies, Gimli is like one of my least
favorite characters because he's like very definitely just
used his comedic relief most of the time.
I actually appreciate him in the movies way more now because
I've met John Rhys Davies in real life and I'm like,
oh, he's just kind of like that. When we were all taking photos, he was like tickling people to
try to get them to laugh. And he'd like get really happy if he got you.
He'd be like, it was very funny.
That's fun. And yeah, like you have to toss me scene.
It's so good. Felt a lot more like real after meeting him too.
Right. Like it feels less acted. That's just kind of what he's like.
Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome.
Yeah, that's probably one of my, I like that one more.
Yeah. I thought that one was awesome. Yeah, it was pretty sweet.
Up next, two quests.
Linus, what is your strategy to keep your mind sharp?
What do you do? Diet, reading, sleep?
We know about exercise, but what else do you do?
And Luke, when's the chicken recipe? Help a bro.
It's on Floatplane. It is. It is.
You can find it. LMG.GG slash Floatplane. Not only gives you the recipe, he makes it.
Yep. So he shows you how to do it. Keep my mind sharp.
I mean, is it sharp?
You'd be honest, right? Yeah, I think so.
It's the same answer that I give everyone when they ask me something like this.
You know, how did you work so hard in the early days of LMG?
And how do you do this? And how did you succeed?
How did you do that? I don't have a choice.
I get home at the end of the day and I have a splitting headache very often because you
can only, you can, it's a weird thing because it doesn't seem intuitive.
Your brain's not a muscle, but it does, in my experience, it does wear out.
I, like, my brain gets really tired and there are certain things that make it more tired
than other things, but when you run a business, you can't avoid those things.
You don't really have that luxury of, like, this task is not good for my mental health.
You get, fortunately, a lot of support if you have a good team and I do, but at the
end of the day, you can't just, like, hide from things.
And if you do, they tend to snowball and get bigger.
And we've had those experiences many times over the years where we've tried to avoid a
problem and, ultimately, it has turned into a much bigger problem.
No choice.
Power through it. Terrible advice.
You know, not great for self-care, but how do I do it like that?
Yeah, sometimes you just got to do it.
For a bit of a slight jump back, this is it.
If you're looking for it, there's your title. I do, I do read.
I try to sleep. I often am not able to sleep anymore.
I don't know if it's, like, just age or stress or kids or whatever it is.
Sleep has been really rough for me. I try to not eat total garbage, although I had a really, I had the worst cheat day that I can remember.
Are you doing that thing I recommended?
Oh, I've tried the ultra-filtered milk. Okay.
It doesn't taste that great. That isn't what I was talking about, but okay.
Oh, the powder? Yeah. I haven't tried that yet.
No, no, no, no. No, I'm talking like cheat day.
No, I was just, that was a different thought. So I went down for a little workshop.
Buddy of mine, Danny's badminton guy, but he runs a paint shop.
Jake actually introduced us of all people. And so he runs like a paint spray shop.
And after my terrible experience painting my bike, he was like chatting with me and was like,
oh yeah, I could like maybe like show you how to paint some stuff.
And I was like, oh yeah, I could get like a care package of merch for your son.
His son's really into the channel. Anyway, we figured out a deal and Danny's a super nice guy, very generous with his time.
He's come out and run a couple of like badminton reddit group meetups at our badminton club.
The world is so small and you never know what kind of connection you're going to make by just like being nice to people.
So anyway, we've, so we've done a few things together and he offered to help me figure out my paint gun.
So that if I ever try to tackle something like that again, I maybe will be somewhat competent this time.
It won't take two and a half years.
Anyway, I was on my way back from that really nice little session.
I've learned a lot and I was like, oh, is Krispy Kreme still open?
And unfortunately it was.
So. Linus has a thing for Krispy Kreme.
Myself, a dozen of the Krispy Kreme original glaze that evening.
It was probably the most perfectly baked batch of Krispy Kreme donuts that I have ever eaten.
The glazing was perfect. Not too much sugar.
Like the bottom still had no sugar, but it was like down the sides.
So it wasn't like too sweet. But the lightest, chewiest, like it was, I ate eight of them that evening and for the next morning, three and a half.
My daughters caught me up with the last one in my hand.
They were like, are the rest of them gone?
Are there any for us? Because I had intended to share them.
I don't know how they make something that has so many calories in it.
Taste so light.
It's incredible. And I even, I went really late at night thinking, oh, it's probably going to be like a crappy batch from like many hours ago.
But it was like the freshest, perfectest batch of Krispy Kreme I ever had.
I just, oh man, it was so good.
It was so good. That's pretty sweet. So I cheated like super hard earlier this week.
And then I punished myself on the Stairmaster.
I'm, I think I'm, I think I'm pinch test.
Okay today. So it wasn't that bad. Yeah.
Pinch test. Yeah. Pinch test.
There's like, dude, be, I'm, I'm closing in on 40. And there's like, there's like front flap that just won't go away anymore.
You just started to carry more weight. It just sucks, man.
It sucks.
That's life though. I've been losing decently, consistently lately.
I started with the knee problems. I sent you a little video of it.
I started the, the treadmill walks again.
I have like a full D treadmill that can unfold and go under my desk.
And that's been pretty good. Part of that is just getting back into the habit of remembering to do that.
That is annoying because like, I'll just be so lasered in on work or whatever that
I just forget to switch.
But then once it's going, I can stay on it for a while.
190 calories is no big deal, but 12.
Yeah. No, no. Dan was saying it's only 190.
Yeah. Yeah. I was just in chat clarifying it's 190 each.
Yes. Yes. It's only 190 each.
That's actually way better than I would have expected.
Me too. Let's see. McDouble gallery.
If you get a McDouble, it's 400 calories.
Yeah. So I sat down and I ate four McDoubles in one sitting, which is, that's not good.
Oh no. We're not, I'm not saying it's good. Okay.
Like, okay. If you had one. Dan seems to be trying to, it seems to be trying to rationalize my terrible behavior.
Like how much is it? No, no. I was surprised that like a donut is not McDonald's.
That's crazy. Milk shake. Oh, those are like a thousand.
I tried to go with medium to be, to be pretty chill.
750 calories for a medium milkshake from McDonald's.
Yeah. Milkshakes are brutal. I love milkshakes.
What about like a, what about like a fries?
But I just, I almost never do it anymore.
Sometimes I will share a milkshake with Yvonne if she has one, but I just, I can't.
A medium fries is 350 calories from, and like who's getting medium.
So we're talking 560 calories for a large fries from McDonald's.
And this is a Canadian one. I'm sure the American size is bigger. Wouldn't be too surprised.
So, so it's like, for, you know, for that many fries, you get a few donuts in there.
Yep. Yep. And I would, I think I would take three Krispy Kreme donuts.
I would thousand percent take three Krispy Kreme's over, I think, oh, oh, McDonald's fries.
Okay. If they're freshly fried though.
You guys have heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times on this show.
Oh, sorry. Sorry. AJ, not, not our AJ, but, but full-point chat AJ said, I run an ice cream parlor.
Our brownie Sunday is 1600 calories.
That's insane. Holy crap. That's insane.
These numbers, like the fries and the milkshake and that are all why I'm saying like, oh,
it's like surprising that it's only 190 eating 12 of them is.
Inserving of McDonald's plain hamburger bun is 150 calories.
This is what I'm saying. It's actually very surprising. That's nuts.
Probably cause I think the, it's, it's a cake one, right?
So it's mostly like kind of air. It's pretty airy.
Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty airy.
I haven't had one of those. Most of it probably comes from sugar. Sugar.
So rather than like fat. Yeah. Anyway, you've heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times, but I am a fry enjoyer.
McDonald's fries are, dude, when the fresh McDonald's fries.
Pretty good. Yeah. I'll just, I'll eat them without even thinking about it.
I can't have them within reach, like our kids don't eat McDonald's much, but when we
do get it, I have to just put the fries in the back where I can't reach them because
I'll just eat them all and they won't even get any.
What is the correct price and your opinion for a hybrid motorcycle?
What kind of miles per gallon or liters per kilometer target should it hit?
Should it be feet forward or standard or sit it scooter style?
That is totally. Those are a lot of. Up to you.
Personally, I do not have nor do I have any interest in a hybrid motorcycle.
I, I like my old crappy 23 year old bike from 2003.
It makes motorsports noises, which makes me happy, which normally I don't care about.
I don't care about it for my go cart. I don't care about it for my full sized car.
I just don't care about like, like that type of engagement with the vehicle anywhere except
my motorcycle. And the efficiency for me of a motorcycle is a lot less important than the efficiency
of a car in my life or a much larger vehicle in my life.
Like it just, it's so small and it consumes so little fuel.
Like a van, right? Like a, like a Honda Odyssey, like a much larger vehicle like that.
And so I just, I can't, I can't care too much about that.
I also never ride very far. So comfort is not a major concern.
So I, I'm on like the street bike. I'm like all folded over the handlebars and stuff.
I'm the wrong person to ask is what I'm trying to say right now, because the way I use my
bike is just completely unaligned with your very practical concerns.
And I'm so sorry to give you such a non answer, but at least it was a thorough and long one.
That's all that matters in the end. Aloha LDL from Hawaii.
What is your best component overheating story?
My 6950 was hitting 114 due to cheap thermal paste.
Oops. Thanks for selling PTM7950. Yikes.
Um, I haven't really had a lot of tons of problems with it.
Computer overheating story. I mean, I've definitely had some issues.
There's been, I mean, I mean, there's the multiple times that I've accidentally boiled
water in a loop and therefore caused it to build pressure and explode tubing off of the
fittings. Like that's, that's a thing because you run so many test benches, you're just like putting
things together quickly. So if you don't have the fans running on a radiator because you know, whatever, if it
runs for long enough, the coolant will get hot, maybe not, maybe not like boiling, boiling,
but enough that you're getting pressure buildup. And uh, and I've had that happen before.
I don't remember the specifics around it, but it's funny.
I think, I think everything lived. I think it's happened a couple of times. I don't think I've ever actually killed anything like that because as long as it's clean water
and you get it off right away and you turn, cut the power, uh, you can actually, uh, hardware
is very survivable. Like that Coke, uh, that Coke video we did where we spilled Coke on the running machine
and then we like cleaned it all and turned it back on. We didn't stage that.
We did fake stuff that happened. It all lived.
Yeah. So when posted, uh, when Bingo Chronified posted that the MacBook Neo is funny, you had a single
thermal pad and benchmarks go up 30%. Yeah.
Uh, was it Optimum Tech that did it? Someone did it.
Sorry. Um, and it's, it's a little more complicated than that.
I haven't actually watched Optimum's video, um, but I do know ETA prime, sorry, ETA prime
did it. So I haven't watched ETA prime's video and, uh, so I don't know exactly how they did it.
What I suspect is that it's really similar to the mod that we did back on the M1 MacBook
way back in the day where you're just using the bottom of the chassis as a heat sink.
So it's not just as simple as Apple is herder, too stupid to, to put cooling in their machine.
I mean, there's clearly a little bit of that, but it's not that they were too cheap to put
in a thermal pad. It's that Apple has to follow guidelines for how hot the skin temperatures of the device
can get. So they're not allowed to just put the CPU or SOC as it were, heat directly into the
bottom of the chassis because they would exceed those safe temperatures if it was sitting
on your lap. It sounds like Alex actually, Oh, did they do that too?
Mr. Zip Tie Tech just threw in a thermal pad. That's cool.
Um, I haven't watched the video, but you got a bunch of views on it.
Yeah. Cool. Um, mess around with some cooling.
I don't know where it's at in the video, but you guys will have to just check it out. Nice.
It gets a cooling upgrade here.
Well, you guys should go watch the video.
We're not going to. Yeah. I'm just looking at it myself.
But yeah, that's, that's pretty sweet. I saw probably without this cooling upgrade that people were getting, you know, with settings
pretty low and whatnot, but above 30 FPS and cyberpunk.
It's pretty cool. Just pretty nuts. All right.
Dan, want to hit us with another? No. No, I don't think I have that much interest in getting it working.
I, I did watch someone else's video getting one of them working.
It's highly involved. Um, it's, it's not as simple as just talking about cause he was muted.
So what, what device? Uh, nomad mp3 player from the dank pods collab video.
Yeah. We're, we're not fixing that. It's just, I don't care that much about it.
I'm so sorry to the nomad enthusiasts who wish that we were fixing it.
I double pressed a couple more here. Hello Linus.
When your kids had a pure toddler meltdown, how did you and approach that?
And did you de-stress afterwards? De-stress?
De-stress, I think they mean. Yeah.
Uh, pure toddler meltdown is one of those things that if you handle it right, you have
to handle it only a few times. And um, the bottom line is that you can only give positive reinforcement for behaviors that
you want to see again. So if a meltdown gets the slice of cake, you will see that behavior over and over and
over and over again. And if a meltdown gets you seated on a bench outside the restaurant where you are within
eye shot, but not allowed to participate, it might even be a little cold that night.
You're less likely to see it again. And we, we did have to go through meltdowns with all of our kids at one stage or another.
And sometimes those battles literally took hours.
I think I've told the story on Wancho before of the time that I was in an Ikea cafeteria
for, I think it was a total of three cycles of other people starting and finishing their
meals while I sat there battling it out with this crying child over that I had said you
have to take one more bite. And she said, no.
And I said, you don't understand.
You will take another bite. And after that, there was no question because when I said, and literally I brought this
up the next time we had a battle over food is I said, you have to eat this broccoli.
And she said, no. And I said, okay, well, we can do it the way where you take the bite now and you eat the
broccoli now, or we can do it the way we did at Ikea where you sat there and you cried
for an hour and a half or two hours or whatever it was.
And you did take the bite. So how do you want to do it?
Can I go now? Yes. The tough part is you've got to be, you've got to keep your cool.
You have to be good on the other end of it. You have to be, you have to keep your cool in the moment because if you lose it and you
threaten something that you're not willing to follow through on or that you shouldn't
follow through on, you've completely, you've completely broken the system.
You have to stay controlled and you have to only threaten things that are reasonable
and that you will follow through on.
Yeah, so man, it's tough.
Last one I got for you today, question for Luke.
You mentioned Forza Horizon earlier. And I'm wondering if you've played any of the older Forza Horizon games.
Two and three are still some of my favorite games.
No, I've thought about going back, actually, because there was, I think I
originally wanted to get into Forza because of drifting. And then to be completely honest, I actually really did not like the
drifting in Forza Horizon 5 unless you were off-road.
Really, really liked the off-road drifting, but the like on-track, on-road
drifting in Forza Horizon 5, I really kind of hated.
It just felt like liquid. It didn't feel like it was, I don't want it to be an actual sim.
I wasn't playing Horizon for a sim, but it just, it felt way too whack.
Even like Mario Kart drifting felt like it was more grounded in
something that made sense.
But I've seen some clips of some pretty cool drifting stuff in older
Horizon games, but yeah, I've never really got around to it. There was almost like too much content in Horizon 5 to the point where when I was
done, I was just like, okay, I think I'm going to take a break from racing
games for a little bit.
Yeah. But no, I like Orange. Luke doesn't not like the drifting in Mario Kart World.
No, I don't like it. Oh, you don't like it. They are totally right. Oh, what's wrong with this?
It's just worse than eight.
We're not necessarily saying it's bad. Oh, interesting. It's just worse than eight.
And it's not necessarily how it feels, but it's how like the game interacts
with it, how it rewards it when you should use it versus other things, stuff like that.
Is it just because you're used to it? It could be. I actually really like it.
I've been open to that as a possibility. I only ever played Mario Kart DS extensively and it's really close to DS.
So I was able to just pick it up and go. And I really don't like the drifting in eight.
I mean, okay, fair enough. The Mario Kart drifting eight versus world is like insanely different than
Horizon. The reason why I brought it up was because like in Mario Kart, you can kind
of like really feel the bite of the road as you're trying to drift.
And in Horizon five, and some people corroborated this in
Philippine Jet as well. In Horizon five, when you take a drift car, tune for drifting and you
take it on the road, the road just might as well not even be there.
Just like you're just kind of floating around. Like it's very weird.
I've been in cars while they were drifting. I've drifted in other games.
Yeah. It's you're really kind of like fighting with the engine in the road.
So to make yourself go around this thing, there's a lot of like force
feedback, like a lot of it. And in Horizon, it's just like, I don't know.
It's weird. And that's why I actually preferred drifting off road was because fighting
the like gravel and dirt or whatever actually ended up feeling a lot more
legit than trying to drift on the actual asphalt.
Yeah. Pancras is saying Horizon five feels like the physics are weird with drift cars.
Yeah. It feels really weird. It doesn't feel good.
I think the main thing with world wasn't necessarily how the drifting felt,
but how the game like rewarded and incentivized it more than anything else.
But yeah. Well, I think that's all for now because I am busy playing vibes.fish
and I have no further time for Wancho.
So we will see you again next week. Same bad time.
Same bad channel. Oh, and also on another channel next week.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So go subscribe to LMG clips because that's going to be the Wancho channel.
It'll be called something else, but go subscribe now. Bye.