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I wanna find Fred's new channel.

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Yeah, we found that he sold his original channel

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and then his original channel is full of like random garbage

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that is not obviously Fred.

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Yeah, like clearly was never gonna work.

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And so we're just kind of wondering what his new channel is.

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Were those two people peeking out of a vagina?

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I don't know. No, I think it's a smile, I think it's a smile.

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Oh man. Fred Quest.

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Does anyone know? People on the reddit say that it's under his own name,

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but his name is... Fred.

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Fred. So... Oh wait, no, his name is Lucas.

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Oh, is it? I've been looking up Fred Figalhorn.

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Yeah, there's no problem. No, that's his character.

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Okay, what's his last name? Lucas Cruikshank.

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Here it is, it's just Lucas. Okay, so he actually uploaded as recently as five months ago.

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Oh, no, as recently as two weeks ago. Yeah.

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Oh, he totally still uploads. Yeah.

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It's like I did a thing. I tested Protein Slop Dick Talk recipes.

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I bought questionable Dick Talk products.

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I tried to have fun at a dying abandoned mall.

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Honestly, it feels like it's Fred still. I have a haunted hotel for him to check out.

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Are they working on that yet? I wonder.

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Pink Palace. Dot it. I kind of doubt it too, honestly.

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Pink Palace, sorry.

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New ownership offers hints about future. That was from October of 2024.

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Um, yeah.

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Cool.

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Nothing in the news recently.

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How is Sora dead asks Stakeboy? Well, stay tuned for the WAN Show and we'll tell you.

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Yep. No news about the Pink Palace.

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I can't find your hoodie on LTTstore.com.

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It always gives me 404 instead. Haha, I get it.

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All my back. Dude, I'm so sore and tired.

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I have done too much, Jim. I'd laugh so hard if they were serious.

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I don't think so. They could be though.

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You don't know. All right. Should we, I mean, should we just get started?

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Slash. I want to see if this is still a thing.

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All right, that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, it's not.

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What, starting the show? Yeah, sure, whatever. Oh, actually, hold on.

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Give me a sec.

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We actually have like a ton to get through today.

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So it's going to be a huge show, bigly.

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Oh, wow.

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Dan, have you seen this Apple business topic?

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It's getting real, boys. I mean, it sounds kind of awesome, to be honest.

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Okay. Let's save it. Save it.

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Should we just do this thing? Yeah, sure. I feel like we should just do this thing.

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No. Oh, God, what is this? What is this?

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I'm not going to worry about it. What?

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Just send it whatever, Dan.

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I love the delay.

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I'm going to deal with the thinking head and then confront this.

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Not yet. No, we're not going to talk about Cash Patel getting hacked, but it's pretty funny.

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Oh, really? I didn't see that. His personal email was accessed by the Iranians,

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apparently.

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Boom roasted. It's weaponized incompetence.

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It's been spectacular to witness.

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Is it like self-hosted or some crap?

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I have no idea. I mean, it's his personal email.

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So like, you know, it's not a government email.

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No, I know. That'd be funnier, but it's just still pretty funny.

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Apparently it was Gmail. It was Gmail.

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Yeah. So that like, not to give too much credit to Google,

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but that sounds like it actually probably was just like

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incompetence. And look, look, I've had accounts compromised before.

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Everybody makes mistakes. So, you know, let's, let's, you know, bear that in mind.

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But also when you're supposed to be the director of like

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a national intelligence agency.

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Yeah. It's just, it's funnier. Yeah.

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That's all. I think it's funnier.

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So no 2FA. It doesn't necessarily mean that. No, it doesn't necessarily mean that.

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We got hacked. I mean, I'm getting 2FA. I wouldn't be, I mean, they didn't get into my email.

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Amarius says, I don't know.

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It was pretty funny when you got hacked too loud. Now listen, my strawberry being on the internet for everyone to

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see is not funny. Kind of funny.

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I know. That's the joke. God.

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I thought it was pretty funny. Oh, man.

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The Louvre's password being Louvre. If Cash Patel's personal email password was like personal

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email password. That would actually be pretty good. It would definitely be some kind of cash pun.

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There's no cash cash money with cash and money.

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Cash and money. He wouldn't even use like the dollar sign for the S.

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That'd be too secure. Dollar sign money.

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There's no way that's not in like the top, you know,

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couple hundred passwords. Dollar sign money.

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Just cash money. There's no way. I mean, as we learned from hackers, what are the top,

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what are the top top hundred passwords? I guarantee you they've changed actually since the hackers

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thing. So I think they probably just made those up too.

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Oh my god. Some of those are very real. I can imagine.

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They're just all numbers on the number key. Forget it.

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There's no cash. There's no cash in here. Yeah.

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A lot of it used to be like God and stuff.

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Hmm. Wait, what?

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Princess. By year, according to splash data.

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People are getting more and more basic. This is crazy.

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Yeah. Like QWERTY is it?

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Oh, actually no. QWERTY is actually gone up.

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So. Okay.

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No, no, it's just variants. I felt like I was seeing more like actual words in the,

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in the very top over here. Football. But that's not actually true.

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That's not actually true. Football was like shot up for one year and then disappeared

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again. Star Wars in 2017 was a password.

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Oops. Star Wars.

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What happened with Star Wars in 2017?

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It might have been something that happened in 2016. Holy crap.

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The last Jedi came out in 2017. And people are so excited about it that their passwords.

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Dude, the last Jedi was almost 10 years ago.

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I can't deal with that. Yeah.

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Star Wars has been dead and buried for 10 years.

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Yeah. That's crazy.

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Yeah. There's kids who watch the last Jedi who are graduating high school.

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Oh, is this top? I don't know if this is like a show topic, but Colbert's Colbert

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and Colbert's son are making like the new Lord of the Rings films?

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I'm so... That's actually really exciting.

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Psyched. And what's his nuts? Peter Jackson is producing.

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He's working with them on it. Yeah. Yeah.

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It actually like sounds awesome. Yeah. Like Stephen Colbert is like a big lore nut.

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Oh, and like... Big Tolkien guy. Actually though.

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I know though. Yeah. Yeah.

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Like imagine that. Imagine bringing in people who love the source material to adapt the source material.

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What a crazy, stupid idea. Wow. Imagine paying for source material and then fucking throwing it away.

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Like, isn't that insane? Yeah.

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I don't know who would do that. Like you... Probably someone really dumb.

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Did I just spit on you? I don't think so. Oh, okay.

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No, I just... Oh, okay. Oh.

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Yeah. I just hope he's good at making movies.

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Well, I mean, I think Peter Jackson's making the movie. Peter Jackson's the producer.

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I'm assuming him and his son are like the more executive producer role.

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I'm not sure what their actual role is. I think they're involved in the writing.

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Oh, okay. Yeah.

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Could be good. I have no idea. He's got the lore chops.

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Isaac Fig Newton says, stop the new Star Wars hate.

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Watch the old ones again in timeline order and the new ones are decent.

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What are you talking about? Like the third Skywalker trilogy?

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Because if you're talking about that, then... No.

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I don't really know how to reconcile your opinion with reality.

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Like I can... I'll yield on certain points.

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Like I will... I'll admit the...

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What was the second one? Last Jedi?

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Right? I'll yield that's a good movie in that it's like...

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It has all the pieces of a movie and they're kind of in the right order and stuff.

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I personally disagree with some of the artistic choices.

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I think there was way too much heroic self-sacrifice.

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Like we're supposed to cry in the first five minutes when there's a heroic self-sacrifice

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then there's yet another heroic self-sacrifice. Then there's that spectacularly stupid thing where Leia survives the vacuum of space for some reason.

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That's the second movie? That's the second one, isn't it?

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I don't remember them well enough to like take a stand.

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I've only ever actually watched them once. They were so...

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They were so bad. So there's people that are like, yeah, it's a good movie.

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But even with those folks, we can agree that it's not a good Star Wars movie.

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And when you're making Star Wars, you should probably make a good Star Wars movie.

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Like it's pretty... It's pretty tough.

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Linus clearly forgot about firehorses in space.

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I did forget about firehorses. What are firehorses?

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What? Firehorses in space.

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I don't know. I don't remember. Is this a thing?

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Is this a meme? I have no idea what this is about. Apparently the story treatments that Lucas had written, the first one of the sequel trilogy

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would have been the first part of the trilogy, continuing the story of Luke as a Jedi.

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The second one would have featured Luke's sister, distinct from Leia.

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Interesting. And the next one after that would introduce the emperor and depict Luke's ultimate battle with him.

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Wait, what? That sounds pretty stupid too, to be honest with you.

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Leia is an isolated monarch, hence death.

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These must be like ancient... Yeah, these are ancient story treatments from 1999.

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Okay, these are not like the new one. Cool.

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All they had to do was make the Thrawn trilogy and everyone would have...

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Oh, that would have been so sick. Absolutely loved it. That would have been so sick.

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That's all they had to do. They could have recast everyone.

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They could have used the guy they casted for a solo story. Sure.

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Like, totally. No problem. Easy.

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Recast everyone, fresh new young actors for the sequel trilogy.

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It's not like we had any returning actors other than Ian McDermid, or however you pronounce his last name,

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from the original trilogy to the prequel, so it doesn't matter.

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Cast new people, make that story.

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People would have absolutely loved it. They would have bought so much Admiral Thrawn, blue face makeup, and it would have been amazing.

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Thrawn is the coolest character in Star Wars, and I will fight you to defend that statement.

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I like Obi-Wan. I didn't say you can't like other characters.

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I said Thrawn is the coolest character in Star Wars.

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He's pretty cool. He overcomes the racist empire because he's just that badass.

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Is that like... Rises to the rank of Admiral.

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Thrawn. Because there's more Thrawn books outside of the Thrawn trilogy, correct?

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Yeah, but I don't know how much I like count them.

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Okay. There's one that I really liked, and I just don't know if it's in the trilogy or not.

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Sorry, Grand Admiral. Sorry, excuse me. Pardon me.

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I just don't know if it's in the Thrawn trilogy or not, but there's one that I really do like...

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I mean, he's such a cool character that they probably just like garbage put him in because, you know...

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Or that they probably just put him in like garbage other stuff.

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No, he's a super big part of this book, and it was a good book.

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I just don't know if it was one of the books in the trilogy or not.

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I'm not sure. Well, the Thrawn trilogy is Air to the Empire, Dark Force Rising and the Last Command.

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Back from the early 90s when the expanded universe was cool.

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It might be Air to the Empire. Would you remember plot points if I said plot points?

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Probably not, because I read these back in like 1990s something.

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Yeah, because I could throw some plot points, but I feel like it's been way too long.

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Yeah. Yeah. But it's cool.

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It's this like, basically...

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I want to call it a duel, but it definitely wasn't a duel.

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This like mysterious force from the outer rim of like aliens are trying to invade...

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The outer rim? I'm going to get all my terminology wrong.

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I'm not even bothered. I'm not sure, but the like clone evil version of the Jedi guy is super cool, like as a plot thing.

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Also, okay, this one might be a controversial one, but I actually loved the Young Jedi Knights books.

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I don't think I read those. I mean, that's fine.

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I don't even care. I love them. I thought they were awesome.

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I think that would have been a great TV show.

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Yeah. The crazy clone stuff.

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So there's Luke Skywalker and Joris Kabaoth or Sabaoth or however you pronounce that.

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And they just have like an extra U in their name and they're like the evil cloned one.

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It's crazy. Yeah. The one I'm thinking of chat is the one where I think it's like Han Solo takes over a imperial

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like defense station that's orbiting a planet and he has to use it.

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If I remember correctly to actually fight.

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I think kind of both sides or more leaning on the side of the empire or something.

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Oh, interesting. And that's happening while Thrawn is using his fleet to fight this like alien fleet and everything's all it's all like kind of everyone kind of playing their own game.

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But the three different forces all playing in the same arena at the same time and trying to see what they can come out with.

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And it's it's very interesting. And Thrawn's like eight D chesting everyone.

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Nice. It's cool. It's a good book.

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I just don't remember what it was. The police cage says for the first time I'm feeling this is drifting too nerdy for me.

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Yeah. I mean, I'll be the first to admit that expanded universe Star Wars novels are not exactly the

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most mainstream of nerd things, especially because it's pretty cool.

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It's well, yeah, but it's been less cool for a long time because like Disney crapped all over it because reading is not cool.

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Well, I do think that could be part of it.

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I think it's pretty based to just decide that you get to kind of pick what your own personal canon is.

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You can still recognize that it's not really what the canon is, but you can also be like, yeah, I'm going to decide these are the things I care about.

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And then Star Wars can still be pretty cool. As long as you don't just make an AI canon, you have to, you have to, where's your line?

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Where are you allowed to decide your canon is? I think you could write your own canon.

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You can fanfic it. Oh, sure.

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I wasn't even talking about that. But the second you use AI to generate it, I'm over you.

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Yeah, sure. Okay. I was saying like you can selectively read and decide to ignore parts.

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Can you write your own?

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I wasn't thinking that far. I don't really think that works.

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You don't think so? What if you write it down, bind it, and put it on a shelf?

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Now it's a book. If you get it published officially, then sure.

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Okay. What if you self-publish though? Then I could also see if it like...

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Where's the line? Oh, man.

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Do I care about other people's acceptance? Is I feel like what this question is?

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I feel like if you can't openly discuss it and have people be able to figure out easily

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and have them actually be likely to do so, what you're talking about, then it doesn't really count.

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Okay. All right. Okay.

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You know what? Yeah. Publishing a book would do wonders for your wiki.

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My God. You know what? You're not wrong.

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Oh, man.

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Category draft.

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He's still in draft.

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Oh, draft talk.

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Okay. Is your book on your wiki?

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I doubt it actually. It's looking pretty blank. Looks like it didn't work.

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Okay. Oh. No, no, this is you.

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Never mind. Man, how often have they declined this?

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Oh, wow. As recently as this month.

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You don't show this person.

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I think we can get you there. Okay.

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How annoying must this be for Wikipedia maintainers?

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The draft contains multiple published secondary sources.

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Wait. The draft requires multiple published secondary sources.

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Do I just need to call up someone at Tom's hardware to write an article about you?

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Like to interview you? Because I feel like we could do that.

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What's the real value of that?

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I don't know. What's the value of a Wikipedia page?

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But I don't care. I know, but that makes it funnier.

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Oh, my God. I like it so much more that you don't care about it.

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It's great. So then.

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Is your book on your Wikipedia page? Then you can be next level cool because you can tell people, I have a Wikipedia page.

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But I don't care about it. But I think if you go out of your way to tell people that you have one and also that you

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don't care about it, I think you definitely do care. And you could walk away from an explosion at the same time.

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Oh, man. Yeah. Can we get him?

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It doesn't care.

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I don't actually need that. I don't need that.

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I don't think your book is on yours. I doubt it.

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Yeah. Your book should be on yours. Yeah.

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But nobody knows how many of them we sold.

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Because we self-published it and sold them all through our own store.

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So it's not that relevant. In fact, mine is kind of stupid.

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No offense. I found a bunch of mistakes in it.

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Actually, I think all the mistakes are fixed because I did a segment on WAN Show where

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I talked through all the mistakes. But it also just like, I'm not really that relevant.

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There's just kind of arbitrary random stuff in it that because no one can decide what

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about me is important because none of it's that important.

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He grew up on a hobby farm in Maple Ridge. Oh, good.

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This is kind of my point as to why mine doesn't matter, though.

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Yeah. But I still think we care.

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It matters to me, Luke.

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Maybe I don't want to host a podcast with someone who's not important enough to have a Wikipedia

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page. Oh, my God.

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Maybe you're dragging us both down. Maybe I don't want to.

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Oh, my God. Maybe I don't want to host a podcast with someone with such a useless Wikipedia page.

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Oh, no. My heart.

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My heart.

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I worked in bread factory. We just need to have that on there.

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You could do a cookbook that just has the one recipe.

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There's two. There's two. The 100% success part.

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Hardcover with like one page in the middle of it.

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This is the only recipe you need.

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It sells itself. I would do that. I would do that for merch.

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Oh, yeah. I would do that. 100%.

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I would do the holiday soup, too, so you can look good to your family.

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That would be the second book.

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Each book is one page.

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$60. I love that neither of them are actually recipes.

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It's just going to be some amount of this.

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It's like French cooking vibe. A satisfying amount of kale.

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People would buy it. I know someone would buy it.

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Okay. We should start the show. Let's start the show.

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So is your kale? No. No, it's good.

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You put it in the soup right before you serve it and then it has some.

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It's good. It's good.

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Wait. No, I'm going to run to the washroom before we start.

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Okay. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.

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I'm sorry, everybody. I failed you all. Okay.

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Bye. I left that on his Wikipedia page.

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Yes. Oh, boy.

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Dad. That was so funny.

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Oh, oh, I hear gravel.

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Do you hear gravel?

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I heard gravel. Someone's behind you.

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Is that anxiety inducing?

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The feng shui of the Wansett is terrible, by the way, for anyone that's watching.

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I'm going to turn your cam on. Oh, yeah, sure.

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So where's, wait, where's Dan cam? Broad cam.

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Broad cam. So those are doors.

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So the feng shui of like producing a live show with doors right behind the producer

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is horrible. It's so bad.

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It's so terrible. When we're hosting this show, we can hear like everything around us.

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Like somebody will open a door at the like other end of this unit.

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It's so extremely. And we'll hear them come in.

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We can hear people walking upstairs and we're in this like little box in the corner.

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So we can hear people like orbiting around us.

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And it's like, oh, are they going to, like your brain can't help, but be like, are they

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going to come all the way around and like say hi or no?

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And it pulls so much attention. The, yeah, it's, it's kind of rough.

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It is what it is. I don't know where else we would put it.

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That would be any better, but a new WAN location. Like, no, not really.

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Do you hear me when I come in? Yeah, absolutely. I can even often identify people by their walk.

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Can we turn it around? Yeah.

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I mean, we hear literally everything. There is nothing.

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There we go. There's nothing above the set.

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That's just the ceiling. It's pretty bad.

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And to be clear, the set, like the top of the set, you can see the top of the set there.

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So the ceiling doesn't connect with the set. It's just, you see the sprinklers and things like that.

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Yeah. Like we can't, we can't. Like there's that, that wood that you can see there is just where the set ends.

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It doesn't touch the ceiling. There's like a, I don't know, five foot gap.

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Maybe, maybe four, four foot something like that.

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Something like that. And the, the panels here occasionally fall on you.

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Yeah. You can see a lot of them are missing.

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Yeah. But you see there's sprinklers and we can't have an enclosed building inside and that

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sort of thing. It's like, thank you fire codes for keeping us safe.

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Like my new shelves. I got new shelves. Nice shelves, dude.

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Thank you. I miss. I like your shelves, bro.

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Hell yeah. Brother. It looks like you clean the shelves too.

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Yeah. I had to. There's less stuff.

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I had to go through everything and get it returned to inventory and like, I did that around

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my, my ShortCircuit. I shot a ShortCircuit on Monday.

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Nice. Can you say what it was? Is it embargoed?

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Probably. I think it is. Yeah.

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Yeah. Okay.

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Anthropics. Claude can now control your computer. Isn't this an old topic?

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Isn't this just open claw? I don't think it's a new research preview of Claude pro.

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Okay. It's not. It was like, wasn't that third party?

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Like some dude made it. Oh, I don't know.

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That's kind of this is first party. They call it claw because it kind of sounded like Claude.

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Full-plane chat question for you guys and twitch, I guess, but I can't see your chat.

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So I'm still interested in what you have to say, but I don't have it open.

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So anyways, um, tech wiki.

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It's having a chat the other day about tech wiki and the things that should maybe be on

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tech wiki. Um, since coming back, we did like the spooky Linux command, the most dangerous Linux command

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slash, um, and then we had a USB, the last guy delivered need, but the USB video was

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like two weeks ago. What?

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I, so there's kind of two questions here. One considering it's called tech wiki are 10 and a half, 11 minute long videos too long

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and second would like when open claw was a thing that people cared about talking about

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would that have been a video like what the heck is open claw?

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Would that have been a video you would have wanted to see on tech wiki?

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Um, would what is an LLM have made sense?

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Maybe now, maybe a few years ago, whatever, should we talk about these like currently

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top of mind AI topics or should it stick more to hardware?

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I had two questions going on.

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What is an LLM isn't a 10 minute video?

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I don't actually know what direction you mean that in. Um, I'm assuming you mean it can be shorter.

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Something you have to understand is you could make what is an LLM and it have it be a six

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hour long video.

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Like the, the length is you can make content fit the length.

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It's a fun random trick of, of YouTube and content creation is like it can really be

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whatever length you want.

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This information, there's a lot of information about what is an LLM would be great if it's

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done properly, need a healthy balance.

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Tech wiki can be both conventional topics and current news tech wikis.

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And this is still quick, open claw and what is an alarm?

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Huh? Would have been great questions to answer in their time.

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Luke says length isn't important. No, what I'm saying is you can definitely be big enough.

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I just need to know how big the thing that we're filling is.

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You know what I mean?

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The general popular big software of the day would be good.

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Yeah, that's what I'm kind of wondering.

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Kind of having a think on that.

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Been wondering if I want to like pitch this internally or not.

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I also think it makes some of it kind of easier because one of the problems over the years

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with Tech wiki was like, man, we've explained what HDMI is already.

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What do we do now?

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But there's so many different models coming out and like so much stuff happening in software

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or even at like the data center level that I think is pretty interesting.

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I still want to know how they connect GPUs together.

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I've never been able to learn how. NV Link, is that what you're talking about?

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Yeah, but why can't I do that with my desktop GPU?

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What is NV Link and why is it? No, no, specifically why does Image Gen like only work on one graphics card?

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We definitely work in the data center. We'd need an interview for that, I think.

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Yeah, I have no idea where to even find that information.

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I think something people kind of maybe forget is that original Tech wikis were like five minutes long.

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Like if I sort Tech wiki by oldest quick in their name.

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The first video is a minute 50. The second video is two minutes and five seconds.

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The third video is a minute 46. Yeah, what is a mouse?

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Once you get a little bit further into it, it ends up being like three to six minutes for the most part.

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Yeah, I talked to the new Tech wiki guys actually today.

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And we're going to try to get it back down to like six and a half.

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One of the things I was pitching to the audience was like, should we cover AI topics?

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Like a Tech wiki on what is Open Claw actually probably would have been pretty nice.

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Yeah, that's a good idea. I don't think it needs to be everything, you know, but like explaining these different models when they come out.

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Like when DeepSeq releases their new model and the whole internet goes crazy about it.

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We should probably have a like, why does DeepSeq matter video?

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In general, just like with things kind of shifting away from hardware,

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more towards software, having more software videos.

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And I don't necessarily mean like the most dangerous Linux command explained.

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I more mean like... I know, that video was what prompted the meeting I had today.

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Because I was like, what is this? It's not a bad video.

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I liked it. But it's not a Tech wiki.

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Not a Tech wiki. But anyway, I did enjoy watching it.

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And like I appreciated the team like taking the initiative and like, you know, getting something going.

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Because for a long time there was nothing going.

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But we kind of sat down today and like went through the most popular videos, the most recent ones,

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the oldest ones and we went, okay, what's a Tech wiki and what's not.

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And there were a few of like very, very popular ones that we looked at and we went,

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that's not a Tech wiki. Or at least it's not a Tech wiki anymore.

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Do you have the popular ones up? Yeah.

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I can show you what I mean. So the one that we decided was, was a Tech wiki when we made it,

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but isn't anymore is how does Netflix work?

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And the reason for that is that eight years ago,

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there might be a question of like, what is a media streaming platform?

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Or what are the benefits of a media streaming platform versus a Blu-ray?

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I'm pretty sure I worked with John on this and this was actually like really cool.

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But today we take the idea, there is no technology explanation for streaming

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that I think a technical user needs to hear.

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We sort of fundamentally understand the idea of encoding video and streaming it over the internet.

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Whereas that was a conversation at that time.

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And then something that we agreed is not a Tech wiki and never was,

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even though it got a lot of views as the wise Windows for you now.

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That's not a Tech wiki. It's a good idea for a video, but maybe that's an LTD.

446
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:18,240
Yeah, exactly. And so how much RAM do you actually need was another one that sort of straddles the line.

447
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:22,240
If we were going to put in the work to actually test it, it's an LTD.

448
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:25,240
If we're just theory crafting it, it's a Tech wiki.

449
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,240
But with the kind of resources that we have these days,

450
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:33,240
what's our excuse for not testing something like that? It's an LTD and we just do the work.

451
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:39,240
So we kind of went through and defined what makes something a Tech wiki

452
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,240
and what makes something not a Tech wiki.

453
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:49,240
And so I think we've got pretty good alignment and it should be something that we'll continue to work on moving forward.

454
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:54,240
I mean, everything has a thousand moving pieces

455
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,240
and you can't move one without something above it falling down.

456
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:03,240
And so it can be really, we've become a pretty big ship

457
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:09,240
and we recognize that we need to dramatically increase our agility.

458
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:12,240
If you can read and understand numbers.

459
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,240
It takes time. If you'll know that we got to make some change.

460
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,240
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

461
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:23,240
But what's a YouTube short? Thanks, Sammy. I think no one needs that explained to them.

462
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,240
Love it.

463
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:29,240
I don't know. Sammy makes those.

464
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,240
Trab says, for those genuinely wondering this,

465
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,240
but who aren't informed, wouldn't those videos be pretty good for them?

466
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,240
But a quick video that would be better on LTD.

467
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:42,240
I mean, yeah, maybe just because a topic isn't a Tech wiki doesn't mean it's not a video.

468
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:46,240
And I think LTD can be sort of a catch-all for things that might not fit the Tech wiki format.

469
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:50,240
And if it's like too quick, then it could be a short.

470
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:54,240
Absolutely. To go along with Sammy. The Sammy shorts have been freaking killing it.

471
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:58,240
On Tech wiki even. Yeah. So like, that's not necessarily a problem.

472
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:04,240
We need long form content because you make a lot more mula from the ads and stuff on long form.

473
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:14,240
It's not just make a lot more mula. It's like shorts, unless you're selling something are not financially viable for a media organization like us.

474
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:18,240
If you're an individual person, then absolutely.

475
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:27,240
I think you can make it work. But if your hope is that you're just going to use like adsense and you're going to have like a media company with shorts,

476
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:30,240
it's going to be pretty, it's going to be pretty tough.

477
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:35,240
There are lots of really creative ways that people are monetizing shorts outside of adsense.

478
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:40,240
But, you know, those ways are not really like the ways that were built, at least not today.

479
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:53,240
I mean, it is not inconceivable if the world moves to just people only watch shorts that the media side of our business could dramatically change.

480
00:37:53,240 --> 00:38:03,240
And, you know, we just make shorts where we feature water bottles and screwdrivers and hoodies or whatever and do, you know,

481
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:12,240
checktips and are pretty much a products company that just, you know, has a guy that also makes short form video.

482
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:27,240
Like nothing's impossible. And we've been lucky that this space that we occupy has been so steady, as steady as it has been for the last 12, 13 years.

483
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,240
Like it could have been more tumultuous.

484
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:36,240
Before YouTube, it was more, there was more seismic shifts.

485
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:42,240
Yeah. I kind of lost it.

486
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,240
No. No, I think you've still got it, Luke.

487
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:48,240
I don't know. No. No.

488
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:52,240
Charge. Wait, what? My doesn't know button says doesn't have a Wikipedia page.

489
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,240
No, Dan, I want my doesn't know back.

490
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:59,240
Oh, man. Sorry, sorry. Charge Nuclear, I said that would just be a commercial.

491
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:03,240
I try to avoid shorts kind of as much as I can, but the last time I was on there,

492
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:07,240
half of them were just steak gambling ads wrapped in a short video.

493
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:11,240
But there you go. You know, I think that's kind of what they are just as heads up.

494
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:16,240
Another one, Blake Maverick said shorts are a lot of them just are undisclosed sponsorships.

495
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,240
That's like very rampant on shorts just to be clear.

496
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:24,240
Yeah. And it almost seems like it's inherent to the format because it would take too long to disclose it.

497
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:30,240
It takes time to disclose a sponsorship. Like people get weirded out that I, that I call out a sponsorship.

498
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:34,240
Like when I'm, when I'm doing those Q&A ones and I'm like this, it's sponsored by Mexico.

499
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:38,240
And I like, I do a proper disclosure. People are like, what the fuck?

500
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:41,240
The line is just sponsored all over the place even on shorts.

501
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:47,240
I'm like, bro, the difference is amount of them are the difference is not that I'm sponsored.

502
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,240
The difference is that a lot of what you're seeing is not disclosed.

503
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:53,240
It's, it's weird that it's now. Yeah.

504
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:58,240
Anyways, Blake Mavericks also said shorts are a trailer slash preview for the whole channel.

505
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:02,240
And I know that was a talking point, potentially even one that we've made in the past.

506
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:10,240
That is not how that works anymore for us. That is not how that works anymore for most people because so the audience is almost split.

507
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:16,240
People will come on to YouTube to watch shorts or people will come on to YouTube to watch VODs or people will come on to YouTube.

508
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:21,240
And their app will just fart a short watch for immediately in their face.

509
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:26,240
And then it's not super natural to go from shorts to VODs.

510
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:31,240
So like YouTube is actually not doing a good job of making that a funnel if they even want to.

511
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:34,240
And I suspect they like might not.

512
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:40,240
Crystal says the difference is you don't take the bribe money to not disclose actually not how it works.

513
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:47,240
Yeah. So people have a lot of misunderstandings about how sponsorships work in social media.

514
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:51,240
I'd love to do like a deeper dive on something like this.

515
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:58,240
Maybe, you know, when we have Linus financial tips, hold on, do I have a not financial advice button?

516
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:02,240
No, I don't. You know, whatever, like LTT is not the right format for it.

517
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:10,240
But I'd love to do a deeper dive on it someday and just kind of talk about it because people have a lot of really weird misunderstandings about how sponsorships work.

518
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:19,240
Like they'll see a video where we, where we, you know, ultimately recommend a product but are quite critical of the parent company, for instance.

519
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:23,240
And they'll go like, oh, give it a positive review. This is so sponsored.

520
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:31,240
It's like no brand would allow you to say anything like that, that, that, that, that and that in a sponsored video.

521
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:38,240
And you are absolutely insane if you think that they would like you just clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

522
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:46,240
And, you know, as for, as for brands wanting you not to disclose it for the most part, that's not actually true.

523
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:56,240
I don't see that. A lot of overseas brands do not properly understand the disclosures that are mandated by law in most of the West.

524
00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:02,240
But the ones that do understand it actually have in their contract that you must disclose it.

525
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:11,240
Because what a lot of people don't know is that the liability actually falls on the sponsoring brand, not on the influencer themselves for an undisclosed sponsorship,

526
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:20,240
which to me is, is made sense back when that law was put in place and I'm talking like the American side of it.

527
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:30,240
But these days I'm actually not sure if that does make sense because it has put us in a position where influencers are not disclosing sponsorships

528
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:37,240
and as long as brands aren't chasing them and making sure that they're compliant, they're just not disclosing sponsorships

529
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:40,240
and there's no consequences whatsoever.

530
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:50,240
And it's just, like you said, I think you just use the word rampant to describe the situation on shorts, right?

531
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:56,240
Mildly correct says people think this because that's how others treat their sponsors.

532
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,240
Do you think everyone on YouTube treats sponsors like you do?

533
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:06,240
No, I don't. I understand that we have kind of a big to swing around in terms of how we negotiate with sponsors.

534
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:12,240
Like I remember chatting with a smaller creator who was out here visiting to do a collab a little while back

535
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:16,240
and I basically was like, hey, you should not be signing this exclusivity agreement.

536
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:22,240
I strongly advise you not to sign this exclusivity agreement, especially for such a long term.

537
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:26,240
Like it was, I forget how many years it was, but it was way too long.

538
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,240
And I was like, look, like you guys are going to grow your channel.

539
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:32,240
I think you guys are really smart. I think that you're really charismatic.

540
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:38,240
I think your content's great. I don't see a future where you guys are not growing like crazy.

541
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:49,240
And this is a fixed rate for this very long period of time that significantly impedes your ability to talk about other brands that are highly relevant to your content niche.

542
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:53,240
I really don't think you should do this. And you don't know what they're going to do in that year.

543
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:56,240
You have no control over that external company in the years of really long time.

544
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:01,240
But ultimately they decided to take the deal and the rationale that they gave me.

545
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:08,240
Well, not that they like owed me an explanation or anything, but we were chatting about it after the fact and they were like, well, it gives us the peace of mind.

546
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:14,240
And you know, you got to understand that not everybody is able to go to a brand and simply say no.

547
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:25,240
And this is like an overseas brand, which sometimes they don't have the same, you know, norms and the same understanding as more Western brands

548
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:29,240
who are used to working with more Western influencers.

549
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:33,240
So it's complicated.

550
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:44,240
It's complicated. Yeah, we should resume the selected tabek. Let's do that.

551
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:49,240
And yes, there are rules about when you're supposed to disclose it.

552
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:52,240
No, it's not supposed to be at the end.

553
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:59,240
But it is better than just not at all, which it seems like a massive amount of creators are doing these days, especially on shorts have always done.

554
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:21,240
I think the I think it's a lot higher on shorts personally.

555
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:25,240
Mm hmm. Oh, I thought you clicked it. I heard your mouse click right after he said go for it.

556
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:29,240
And I was like, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do it.

557
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:39,240
Did you say two double confirms? Yes. Is that four confirms or two confirms?

558
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:42,240
Shoot bi-weekly. Which one? That's every two weeks.

559
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,240
Wait, no, no, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

560
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:48,240
Hold on. Is is twice a year.

561
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:53,240
So by annually is every two years. So it must be every two weeks.

562
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:56,240
Right. Is it bi-weekly every two weeks?

563
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:00,240
I think so. Do you even know the answer?

564
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:07,240
You're quizzing me and you don't know the answer.

565
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:11,240
Two weeks every two weeks or twice a week.

566
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:15,240
That's the dictionary definition. That's brutal.

567
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:20,240
Is it a week that can go in either direction?

568
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:27,240
Yes.

569
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:33,240
I won't let your cushion back.

570
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:50,240
What's up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show.

571
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:54,240
Okay, seriously though, you need to calm down for a second.

572
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:57,240
Because we have a huge show this week.

573
00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:01,240
And you know how we've been talking about the idea of a good news WAN Show?

574
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:04,240
Yeah. We're easing ourselves into it. Okay.

575
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:07,240
April is going to be good news WAN Show month. Okay.

576
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:10,240
If it's not good news, it's not going to be in the WAN Show.

577
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:16,240
What if it's extremely important news? If it's extremely important news, we could maybe have a single car vote.

578
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:24,240
It's just on TechLinked. Single car vote or we could do an extremely important bad news WAN Show for the first WAN Show in May.

579
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:29,240
We should bring back the really, really dark scene for the single car vote bad news thing.

580
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:32,240
We could do that. We could do that. Then people can easily skip it.

581
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:38,240
It's going to be a month of good news WAN Show and we're going to be starting with some pretty freaking good news today.

582
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:41,240
Sora is dead.

583
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:46,240
That's right. Open AI just flipping, flipped the switch.

584
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:49,240
It's gone. We're going to be talking about that.

585
00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:59,240
Also in some mixed news, Meta and Google were found liable in a landmark social media addiction trial.

586
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:07,240
We'll get into it a little bit more depth later, but for starters, $3 million in damages to the plaintiff.

587
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:10,240
And that may just be the tip of the iceberg.

588
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:16,240
What else we got? Or the Zuckerberg. Oh, I wish I thought of that the first time.

589
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:26,240
Zuckerberg's tip. Anyways, wine 11 is a game changer in potentially some actually really cool ways and we have a double jeopardy here.

590
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:33,240
Bigger battle mage has arrived and Crimson Desert is apparently finally supporting Intel GPUs.

591
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,240
No one knows why they didn't, but anyways.

592
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:39,240
That was a really f***ed up thing for you to say. What?

593
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:43,240
Zuckerberg's tip. Why would I want to think about that?

594
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:45,240
Hahaha.

595
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:12,240
The show is brought to you today by Jawa, Squarespace, Tello and Proton Mail alongside our RAP partner dbrand.

596
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:17,240
Our laptop partner Razer and our chair partner also Razer.

597
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:25,240
Let's jump right into our headline topic today, which is Sora is dead long live spud.

598
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:37,240
On Tuesday, OpenAI announced the demise of the video generation app and API that was front and center in a billion dollar licensing deal with Disney just a few months ago.

599
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:42,240
A deal which is also coming to an end according to the Hollywood Reporter.

600
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:56,240
OpenAI is also scaling back some of ChatGPT's shopping features as they shift their focus to business and productivity tools, apparently codenamed spud, as they continue down the path towards an initial public offering.

601
00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:08,240
It is not clear whether the core model will be folded into another model, preserved in some way, or just outright discarded as they walk away from Sora video generation.

602
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:22,240
Let's talk a little bit about, to start, the technical side of a video generation service and why that might not be economically viable like ever.

603
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:26,240
It could be.

604
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,240
Okay. For sure. It could be, but.

605
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:35,240
Yeah. Two individual end users, I think that's going to be a tough sell.

606
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:48,240
I mean, there's been a theory craft that like, you know, fast forward hopefully a lot of years and political campaigns could be custom tailored per person.

607
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:51,240
Okay. But again, that's a B2B use case.

608
00:50:51,240 --> 00:51:04,240
That's not a consumer use case because it's all about who's paying for, yeah, it's about who's paying for the token because at the end of the day, OpenAI has to figure out and they really don't have a lot of time right now.

609
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,240
What a business model for their product is going to look like.

610
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:11,240
Did individual users pay for tokens for on Sora?

611
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:14,240
Is that how that worked? My understanding is that.

612
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:21,240
I only used it once for that video Riley and I did. Yeah, my understanding is that you would pay for tokens if you want to generate video on it.

613
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:32,240
Yeah, that's a little weird. The thing that I suspect could eventually happen is if the platform is trying to generate videos that draw you in.

614
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:43,240
Like there's been some people raising alarm bells about how this could be a direction for YouTube where YouTube stops being, well, maybe it starts embracing the name even more.

615
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:52,240
And it ends up being content that they're generating for you based on your viewing habits and eventually there are no really creators.

616
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:55,240
It's just platforms making content for you as a user.

617
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:06,240
I could see viability there, but yeah, I mean, I never really understood the business model of Sora making any sense and I don't think anyone else really did either.

618
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:09,240
I don't know a single person who actually really used it beyond the first few days.

619
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:15,240
I mean, to me what it was was simply a marketing stunt.

620
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:26,240
It was a billboard. I mean, they clearly didn't do the groundwork ahead of time to deal with the licensing issues that they were obviously going to have with it.

621
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:30,240
They kind of patched together that deal with Disney.

622
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:36,240
I believe that wasn't the only deal they made. They also worked with some influencers to get permission to use their likeness.

623
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:47,240
So they generated a bunch of buzz that way, but I heard and I don't know how true this is.

624
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:50,240
How much was Sora costing per day?

625
00:52:50,240 --> 00:53:01,240
Let me see if I can find a credible number, but from my understanding it was costing anywhere from hundreds of thousands of dollars to as much as millions of dollars per day.

626
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:06,240
Hold on a second. Where is this from?

627
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:13,240
Yeah, I've got this post on Reddit that has zero upvotes, so I think I'm going to just not quote anything from that.

628
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:19,240
That's what I was on as well. But CBC reports that an analyst, okay, sure, here we go.

629
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:23,240
I will, oh my god, okay.

630
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:26,240
Where's the article?

631
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:29,240
Oh, there it is. I'm going to derail this a little bit.

632
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:33,240
I'm going to derail this a little bit. We're going to come back to it for a second.

633
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:37,240
Sorry, Noki, time stamp guy. You're just going to have to kind of work with me here.

634
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:40,240
I have a confession to make.

635
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:54,240
You ad blocking? I installed Brave on my phone yesterday for the explicit purpose, for the express purpose of blocking an ad from a page.

636
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:58,240
This is the first time. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them.

637
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:02,240
Outside of content. We got them. I have engaged in web ad blocking.

638
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:08,240
How's the hat feel? I mean, hypocritical, right?

639
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:13,240
Because that's the whole reason that we have the policies we have internally here.

640
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:23,240
That's the whole reason that I don't use it is because as someone whose business is supported by ads in a not insignificant way,

641
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:31,240
it would have felt very hypocritical for me to block ads personally or for our business to block ads.

642
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:38,240
However, I had, and I kid you not, I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true.

643
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:41,240
I had no choice, Luke.

644
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:48,240
I was forced to block ads. Was it one of those links that effectively, if you click it, it just doesn't work unless you have an ad blocker?

645
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:51,240
I'm going to see if I can find the right link.

646
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:56,240
Yeah, this is the one. So I'm going to open this link in Chrome here real quick.

647
00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:02,240
And I'm going to show you what I'm talking about. It's an article I was trying to read on Electric.

648
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:06,240
I don't know how well you guys are going to be able to see this here.

649
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:12,240
But here's the article. Tesla is not in fact operating an autonomous vehicle service.

650
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:15,240
And I wanted to read the comments on this.

651
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:18,240
You know what a fan of comments I am.

652
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:21,240
Yeah, here it is. It's still, oh, no, no.

653
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:25,240
Okay, so it's fixed now, but it's not fixed because they fixed it.

654
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:29,240
It's fixed because the size of this banner ad is not as wide as the one that I had.

655
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:38,240
So when I opened up this article yesterday, I was getting a banner that was so wide that it covered part of the first comment here.

656
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:43,240
Okay, just like this one and extended all the way to cover the expand button.

657
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:46,240
So I couldn't click. So tall? I couldn't.

658
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:57,240
Yeah, it was taller. And to see the comment section, I literally could not interact with the website in order to use it.

659
00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:01,240
That's pretty sick. Without engaging an ad blocker.

660
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:04,240
Freakin' irritating anyway. On that note.

661
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:07,240
Okay, back to this CBC article. One moment, please.

662
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:10,240
Let me just... Oh, okay. Oh, wow.

663
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,240
One of them disappeared. Right, right, right, right, right.

664
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,240
So yeah, CBC. Hold on. Dollar sign.

665
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:19,240
Where are we at? The platform was also, by some accounts, an expensive flop.

666
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:24,240
In November, one analyst suggested it cost open AI about $1.30 US to generate a 10-second video.

667
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:33,240
That actually doesn't sound that crazy. Based on the 11.3 million daily videos, he estimated this would cost the company about $15 million a day.

668
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:43,240
And that's a number that's kind of hard to pin down because how much of your video generation cost is your fixed cost

669
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:46,240
and how much of it is your variable cost? Yeah, yeah.

670
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:49,240
How much of it is the infrastructure that you had to build?

671
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:58,240
GPUs that are already sitting there. In order to accommodate the volume of tokens, the volume of requests you're getting,

672
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:04,240
and then how much of it is the actual energy of that actual video generation task that you did.

673
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:14,240
And it's hard to decide how much of that fixed cost you amortize across how many of your variable cost individual engagements, right?

674
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:17,240
So it's going to be hard for us to say for sure.

675
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:30,240
But what I think we can say with certainty is that it was flipping expensive to run with, as far as I can tell, no model to profitability.

676
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:36,240
Because you've talked extensively in the past about how expensive it is to run a video hosting platform, right?

677
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:48,240
Yeah. And you know what's funny is, and this is going to kind of, this kind of turns the whole idea of AI being an efficiency booster

678
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:54,240
and a cost saver sort of on its head. But let me kind of, let me kind of present it this way.

679
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:59,240
YouTube has all of the challenges of hosting a video platform, right?

680
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:05,240
Whether we're talking VOD or short form or live streaming, you've got to deal with all the encoding.

681
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,240
You've got to deal with all the storage. You've got to deal with all the bandwidth.

682
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:17,240
But YouTube has an army, a literal army of free labor.

683
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,240
Yeah. Or at least not free commission labor.

684
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:26,240
Yeah, like skimmed. So they will be making money the more of them there are.

685
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:37,240
Yes. But the humans who are uploading content to the YouTube platform that nobody watches, well, hey, the bandwidth cost is nothing.

686
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:44,240
They do have to store it. That kind of blows. And storage isn't getting like cheaper in the marching way that it used to.

687
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,240
No. So there are still things that kind of blow about that.

688
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,240
But hey, they didn't pay anybody to make the content.

689
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:58,240
So all they have to do is apply their quality filter and algorithm and there's a path to a profitable platform there.

690
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:07,240
Whereas on Sora, they had to pay for every single piece of content, no matter how good or how bad it was.

691
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:13,240
On top of any encoding and bandwidth and storage.

692
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:22,240
I mean, YouTube is already unassailable without them having to pay whether it's a buck 30 or whether it's 13 cents.

693
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:31,240
Whatever it is per generated video on the platform, they ain't paying for it unless it makes money, unless it generates revenue.

694
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:37,240
So yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty clear that it was, it was a showcase for their latest video generation model.

695
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:48,240
And what they're going to do with that, I don't know, because they, yeah, like just going straight pay to play straight B2B is obviously something that they could do.

696
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:53,240
But to your point, you know, how big is the market going to be for that?

697
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,240
And something we haven't even talked about yet is how much competition is there going to be there?

698
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:11,240
Not even like right at that time, like at that time, like, oh, AI social media platforms thing, those were, those were, those were a big deal, right?

699
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:24,240
Okay, I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out how much it would cost for the YouTube and Twitch live viewership of this show right now.

700
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:34,240
Oh, we're still, we're still kind of building up, but there's like 5,200 on YouTube and about 1,800 ish on Twitch.

701
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,240
So let's say that's 7,000.

702
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:45,240
Sure, let's say that. Hours streamed, we've been doing like four, I think.

703
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,240
We did over four hours last week. I totally didn't realize what was going on until the show was over.

704
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,240
I looked and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's crazy.

705
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:59,240
Let's say, I don't know if we're advanced to HD or just standard.

706
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,240
I'm not sure.

707
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Do you want me to do something while you're doing that? Yeah, I can show it right now.

708
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,240
So we're doing low latency, which I believe it is on YouTube and Twitch right now.

709
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,240
We're not even looking at chat, but we're doing one channel, channel type.

710
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,240
I'm just doing standard. I'm not actually 100% sure what the differences between these are.

711
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,240
Full HD, 1080p, because I think I'm pretty sure we are streaming that.

712
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,240
Four hours streamed, 7,000 viewers. This tends to go up over the course of the show,

713
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:33,240
but let's just keep it where it is for now. And the cheapest area for viewership generally of North America,

714
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,240
and it's still 2,000 USD. That's wild.

715
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,240
Wait, shut up. That's live streaming. Live streaming is expensive.

716
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,240
We don't pay that much for every Floatplane WAN Show stream, do we?

717
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,240
Well, there's not that many viewers on Floatplane. Right, right.

718
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:53,240
Oh, God. There is a decent of viewers on Floatplane, but that's the IVS calculator.

719
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,240
So like, and obviously you're going to, you're going to start getting like volume

720
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:03,240
discounts and stuff. But as far as my understanding goes, like kick is running through IVS.

721
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,240
Yeah. Which has always been a really interesting part of that whole,

722
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:12,240
because IVS is, you know, parent company of Twitch, you know,

723
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:19,240
they're 730 chatters on Floatplane, but the chatters menu also doesn't count perfectly because there's different

724
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,240
forms of ad blocking that can block that.

725
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,240
And we've never bothered to like do the work to make sure that that's 100% accurate.

726
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,240
Right. Because it doesn't matter that much. What's the value in that?

727
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,240
Yeah, it's just like not, there are so many,

728
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,240
you guys let us know for sure every single week.

729
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:42,240
There are like so many things that we could be working on that are probably

730
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:48,240
more valuable than that. We are trying to get things like TV app and other things out.

731
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,240
It's taking time, but they're coming. All right.

732
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,240
Let's just highlight as we move out of the Sora discussion,

733
01:02:54,240 --> 01:03:00,240
the time that Luke and Riley tried Sora and played around with it last October.

734
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,240
That is over at LMG.GG slash Floatplane.

735
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,240
That's a pretty fun little exclusive over there.

736
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,240
All right. Dan.

737
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,240
The paper says headline topic, but we're done that.

738
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,240
I don't know what to do. You know what? Actually, I'm lost and confused.

739
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,240
I think I do know what we're going to do. More topics.

740
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,240
No. Okay. I'll take the paper down.

741
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:26,240
There's going to be, there's going to be so... Why do I bother? There's going to be so many topics today, Dan.

742
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,240
But first I need to... Where are we doing more? Where is it?

743
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,240
What are you doing? I need to do the CW announcements today.

744
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,240
Oh, it's like right at the top. I know. I can find it.

745
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,240
It always is. Listen. Can you bring up the new product?

746
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:46,240
Yeah. This week we launched our magnetic cable management flexible arches.

747
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:53,240
They flex so you can route cables around corners or on rounded things like table legs and put

748
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,240
them in all those spots that aren't perfectly flat.

749
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,240
It looks like a worm. Way more easily.

750
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:05,240
We used over molding to keep the magnets in a rigid core while the arch itself can bend.

751
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:10,240
So you still get that strong magnetic hold without compromise.

752
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:17,240
And the flexibility opens up a ton more options like tighter runs, going around edges, and

753
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:23,240
even mixing these with our regular arches to build your setup exactly the way you want.

754
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:28,240
You can get yours today at LMG.gg slash flexible arches.

755
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,240
Also, if you're curious about our design process for these, we broke the whole thing

756
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,560
down in our newsletter. So you can check that out.

757
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:42,240
And if you haven't already, you can sign up for more behind the scenes on how we build

758
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,240
things. Is this, hold on.

759
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,240
Are you buying three? Yes, I believe so.

760
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:53,240
I don't know if that's super clear.

761
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,240
Scroll down, scroll down.

762
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,240
It's a very long description. My eyes are going kind of blurry.

763
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,240
Product information. There you go. Product information should be above the other one.

764
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,240
Maybe. Or it should be like in the title or something?

765
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,240
Yeah. Yeah, we could probably do that.

766
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,240
I was not the only one that questioned that. Yeah, okay.

767
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,240
Good to know. Good to know. Nice.

768
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,240
But yeah, you're getting three. You're not getting one. Solid.

769
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,240
Here's the newsletter. You guys should definitely sign up for the newsletter.

770
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:28,240
It's pretty cool. We're going to be working on doing a lot more of this kind of stuff, putting in some more

771
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:33,240
technical deep dives of how we're creating these things.

772
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:39,240
So getting into things like injection molding, tooling, dyes, color, all that kind of geeky

773
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,240
stuff that you might not care about.

774
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,240
But if you do care about, it's actually really cool.

775
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:52,240
I've learned so much just working with the Creator Warehouse team over the years.

776
01:05:52,240 --> 01:06:00,240
Also on the store, do we still have the, do we still have the tax write-off sale running?

777
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:05,240
Yes. It is the final day of the tax write-off sale, March 20th to 27th.

778
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:10,240
So if you guys are wanting to pick up a mystery screwdriver for $50 CAD, that's on the global

779
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,240
store, mystery hoodies for $30 Canadian.

780
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:18,240
We have mystery t-shirts for $15, tall shirts, $15.

781
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:23,240
We have open box commuter backpacks, but they're like new.

782
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:28,240
They're in like new condition, and you can get these for just $130 CAD.

783
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:36,240
There's a bunch of really good stuff in this sale. So make sure that you check it out now, because that's a perfect way to send a checkout message

784
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:42,240
is picking up something, either the flexible magnetic cable arches or something from the tax write-off sale.

785
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,240
All you have to do, oh shoot, the mystery screwdrivers are apparently sold out.

786
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,240
So, well, anyway, going to the hoodie, we apparently have smalls in stock still.

787
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:55,240
All you have to do is add something to your cart. Say, I would like my purchase to appear as a checkout message.

788
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,240
It will show your first and last name, or it can be anonymous if you prefer.

789
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:04,240
You type up something and you click, boop-dee-bop-dee, check out.

790
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:10,240
Your order will go to, or your message will go to producer Dan, who will reply to it or just pop it up down there,

791
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:15,240
or who will curate it for us to do a checkout message response.

792
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,240
Dan, do you have any? Should we just do them now? Let's do them now. Let's do one now.

793
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,240
Sure. That's all I got. Hi, specifically Luke.

794
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,240
It's an interesting name for Luke. Anyway, I like it.

795
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,240
Specifically Luke. Yeah, it's pretty good. Not Lucas.

796
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:32,240
Yeah. Not Lucaniel. Not Lucaziah.

797
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,240
Maybe that one. Just Luke. Luke-aziah would be okay.

798
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:39,240
Actually, I like just Luke, too. Specifically Luke is a good nickname.

799
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:43,240
Just Luke it. Dear God.

800
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,240
Okay, sorry. I'm going to call you that from now on.

801
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:51,240
Anyway, what happened to the hype around the 9070 XT?

802
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,240
I love mine, but everyone kind of makes me wish I got a 5070 Ti.

803
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,240
Also, I will pay hundreds for a black shaft screwdriver.

804
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:07,240
I mean, I think it's just like classic NVIDIA bias where just like, I mean, having what is it,

805
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:12,240
95% market share is going to make people.

806
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:18,240
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's necessarily that you like made a bad choice or anything like that.

807
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,240
It's just, look at that. Look at that.

808
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,240
Wow. So if people are going to talk about cards, it's probably going to be the cards that

809
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:33,240
they have. And if 95% of people have that card, it doesn't even specify the card.

810
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:40,240
Wow. There's AMD Radeon TM graphics and there's also AMD Radeon graphics.

811
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,240
I think these are on board. Yeah.

812
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,240
I think these are both like. One of them is not trademarked. On board ones.

813
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:54,240
So you have to go all the way down to bazillionth place to find a single AMD discrete GPU.

814
01:08:54,240 --> 01:09:02,240
It's a generation old and they're looking at less than 1% of the market.

815
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,240
Yeah. Of steam gamers.

816
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:12,240
Then you got to go a generation older and more mainstream, newer mainstream.

817
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:21,240
How far do we have to go to find a 90 something XT, last gen flagship at 0.5%.

818
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,240
Oh, fall into 0.27% of gamers.

819
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,240
Whoopsie doodles. And like it's actually very surprising.

820
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,240
Vega 8. Hell yeah.

821
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,240
It's above the 90s.

822
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,240
Did I miss it? I don't think so.

823
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,240
I didn't see it. You might have, but I didn't see it.

824
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,240
Yeah. So like, and it's like just like a lot of things.

825
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:49,240
It's kind of a chicken and egg problem to a certain degree where a lot of people are

826
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:54,240
just buying NVIDIA and that kind of informs the pre-build market.

827
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:59,240
A lot of the pre-build market is only really serving NVIDIA GPUs because of that.

828
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:06,240
But then a very surprising for me and likely for you because you seem to be in the community

829
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:12,240
of people that's building their own computers, a massive amount of people buy pre-builds

830
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,240
like way more than I ever would have thought.

831
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,240
It's a huge market actually.

832
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,240
Even from brands that you might traditionally think of as DIY.

833
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:29,240
Like hardcore. Like MSI apparently is like, I don't know if this is on the record or not.

834
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,240
Well, whatever I'm going with it. What's Cliff going to do? Yell at me.

835
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,240
MSI is apparently just like slaying it as a system integrator.

836
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:40,240
Yeah. And like, I mean, yeah, it makes sense, right?

837
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:45,240
It's not like they don't have motherboards and GPUs.

838
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,240
So like what? They could sell you a motherboard and a GPU or hear me out.

839
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,240
Here you go.

840
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:58,240
It's just obvious. It just works. It's kind of funny that the hard part is RAM now.

841
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,240
But normies are scared of building their computers.

842
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:07,240
I think that's part of it. I think an actually really surprising amount of it is people just don't want to bother.

843
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:15,240
Like I experienced this for the first time kind of as I was ending my time working at

844
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,240
like Best Buy and stuff like that where there was a buddy of mine who was one of my supervisors

845
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:23,240
at Best Buy who had moved on and was doing a more advanced job now.

846
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:29,240
And we were chatting. He was talking about how he was going to, he was going to get a computer built by NSEAX.

847
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:34,240
NSEAX had a cool service where it wasn't, it was pre-built, but you could configure it

848
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:38,240
yourself and then they'd build it for like 50 bucks or something. It was 50 bucks for a long time.

849
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:43,240
In fact, I think you could get it as cheap as 25 if you used the old classic PC builder

850
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:47,240
interface where we didn't even bother putting together like recommended configs for you.

851
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,240
Okay. Like 25 bucks for someone to build a computer and they did a pretty good job.

852
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:57,240
And they tested it. It was warrantied if I remember correctly. They made sure everything worked and they give you a one year warranty on the system as

853
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:03,240
a whole. Yeah. And they treated the sale like a parts sale.

854
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:09,240
So a lot of hardware manufacturers will actually give you a different warranty for your parts

855
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,240
if it was through a system integrator.

856
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:17,240
So NSEAX would give you an invoice for all your individual parts and all the boxes and

857
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,240
packaging and accessories. And then there would be another line item for the build.

858
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,240
That just says PC build service or something like that.

859
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:29,240
So what that means is two and a half years down the line when your NSEAX PC warranty is

860
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:34,240
up, you can contact ASUS and get a new motherboard if you are so inclined.

861
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:39,240
Yeah. So like I actually knew quite a few people who ended up just going that route.

862
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:45,240
I knew people that had gotten computers built by me and then were like, well, like you're

863
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,240
busy. I didn't want to bother you. And it was like 50 bucks.

864
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:55,240
So I just did that. And it was like, okay. So like I ended up knowing a lot of people who were technical and would have been very

865
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,520
comfortable building their own computer, but just kind of had a lot of other stuff going

866
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,160
on and they needed a new computer. It's 50 bucks.

867
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:08,520
And there's so many things like that. I think it's easy for us to be in our bubble where we go, I'm so passionate about this

868
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:13,240
thing and I legitimately enjoy it. Why would anybody pay someone else to do it for them?

869
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,040
And we forget about all the other things in our lives that we're just not that passionate

870
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:26,800
about and we just don't feel like dealing with. Like it took me, this is an embarrassing amount of time, but I had a leak in the differentials

871
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:35,760
and a leak in the shocks and I broke the skid plate on this RC car.

872
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:44,080
13 years ago and just, just didn't get around to fixing it because I bought it as a kit

873
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:48,040
from Arma and so I didn't piece it together.

874
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:54,400
I didn't know exactly, you know, what the standard of the particular brushed motor is

875
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,320
and I'd never actually installed the differential in the first place.

876
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,480
So I didn't even know how to like get at it and open it.

877
01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:05,760
And I didn't even know exactly where all the ceiling O-rings were in the shocks.

878
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,840
Like I didn't, I just, I didn't, I'd never put it together.

879
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:17,120
So I didn't understand how it went together. And that barrier of not knowing exactly what to Google in order to find the answer that

880
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:24,560
you need was high enough that I just, it just sat in my garage for years and years and years.

881
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,680
Avon Fox says, never put your toys away broken, use this mantra for everything.

882
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,880
This may surprise you, but the last nine years have been pretty busy for me.

883
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:39,000
Yeah. Sometimes you don't really have that, that luxury Peter pointed out like taxes.

884
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:45,960
I actually think that's a really good, but you know, a little bit more dramatic comparison

885
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:54,880
of like, I could do my taxes. I get my taxes done by an accountant these days just because I don't want to worry about

886
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,880
it. Yeah. What if I do something wrong?

887
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:02,360
Yeah. A kind of really rather, it just didn't go wrong.

888
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,560
Sometimes the stakes are so much higher than the cost.

889
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,880
It's the risk reward calculation, right? Yeah.

890
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,880
Cheaper not to pay them. Yeah.

891
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaking of not paying, someone else said it's $50 plus $100 for Windows.

892
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:23,800
I'm pretty sure NCX would let you build the computer on the computer configurator without

893
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,560
Windows. They did. They built Windows to test with and they would just take it out.

894
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:33,000
And then they nuked the Windows install. Yeah. So like, no, actually you didn't have to do that.

895
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:41,280
NCX was kind of based in some ways. There were some ways that, you know, look, I've made it very clear.

896
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,000
I didn't agree with some of the direction they were going for the business.

897
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:50,440
I've also made it very clear that just because they listened to me would not have necessarily

898
01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:56,080
meant success. They were headed into a very challenging landscape with Amazon coming hard at Canada

899
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:03,880
and New Egg doing the same. But there were some things about NCIX that were pretty cool.

900
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:09,040
I had no other computer shop that I can imagine would have let me come in on a weekend, borrow

901
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:13,520
their known good working hardware to troubleshoot my computer so that I could buy whatever replacement

902
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:20,120
part I needed. Like, that was crazy and they were just, they had a pretty, yeah, let's make it work kind

903
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:25,320
of culture within the rigid confines of their policies.

904
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:30,120
Sure. Yeah. I think the best way that I could probably put it.

905
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:35,720
Yeah. And so it's, I don't know, I understand.

906
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:40,120
It is frustrating. I do think this is a big part of the reason why we have 95% market share on NVIDIA and

907
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:44,000
like, I'm pretty sure zero for Intel, which is why we keep talking about the graphics

908
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,520
cards because we're trying to help them. Hey, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding,

909
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:55,520
is it time for- Is this a proper topic? Our weekly Intel ARC B580 MSRP check.

910
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,640
We haven't done this in a long time. Well, listen, I suppose-

911
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:03,120
It's not really weekly anymore. It's bi-weekly. So thank you for that, Dan.

912
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,320
I got a call back in. All right.

913
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,920
What do we got here? An Asrock Challenger for 300, Steel Legends 309.

914
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:16,240
Okay. We've got an Onyx Lumie ARC for 289.

915
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:20,240
Do we get any bonuses with it? Do we get any games or anything like that?

916
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,240
We don't. We don't.

917
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,680
40 bucks over MSRP. Okay.

918
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:34,400
All right. Well, in the midst of the rampocalypse, we can no longer get an ARC B580 for MSRP, but

919
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:40,480
there is a silver lining. There's an OpenBox Asrock Challenger, final sale, non-refundable.

920
01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:45,680
That's for 259. So it's there, OpenBox product disclaimer.

921
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,960
How scary is this thing? Oh my God.

922
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,600
Why wouldn't you just link me to it in the first place? Why you make me click two things?

923
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,840
Previously open and unused and...

924
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,880
Usually do not come with a warranty.

925
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:06,180
However warranty may be available if it was never registered by the previous owner.

926
01:18:06,180 --> 01:18:10,320
That's the... Accessories may or may not be included, can be pretty sketch for certain products.

927
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,360
Like, if it didn't come with the I.O. shield for a motherboard, I'd be pretty cheesed.

928
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:19,440
Yeah, I'd be pretty irritated by that too. With a GPU, I'd say there's not too many accessories I really need.

929
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:30,280
Oh yeah, that's fair. Oh, 289, that's a downer, but I also can't go too hard at Onyx or at Intel given the

930
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:35,520
current state of things and the fact that that is a 12 gig GPU for 289 and you sure

931
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,160
as heck are not getting anything with 12 gigs for that cheap from anyone else.

932
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:45,160
If Intel is listening, if you guys could somehow flip the script, there's going to be a topic

933
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:49,720
in here about how Crimson Desert didn't support Intel cards.

934
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,880
We'll talk about that more in the future and how it does now.

935
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,160
But if you want to flip the script on that, it could be really interesting considering

936
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:04,320
it does now. Get it optimized a little bit and then bundle it.

937
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,680
That'd be crazy. To take it from like it didn't work at all to it's now bundled with the card I think

938
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,680
would be really cool. It's crazy. I'd love that.

939
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:24,200
And I think Crimson Desert, Steam, Intel now, yes, I was totally born in 1983 on January

940
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,320
1st. Yeah, it's very positive. People seem to like it.

941
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,680
I haven't played it, but 83% positive.

942
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,680
Wow. Yeah. Yeah, it's impressive.

943
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:39,520
Yeah. All right, cool. For a while, a 5060 with only eight gigs of VRAM is $370.

944
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:44,040
So Arc B580 is still looking like a pretty spectacular value.

945
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,360
If you buy one, I think we have an affiliate code. I always forget what it is.

946
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,240
Is it just LMG.gg slash new egg? Floatplane chats got me.

947
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,240
Thanks Floatplane Chat. What did they say though? I didn't see it.

948
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,760
Yeah, LMG.gg slash new egg. Nice.

949
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,280
All right, should we jump right into a new topic? Yeah.

950
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,280
Routers? Actually, I want to go with some good news.

951
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,280
Can we do some good news? Can we do some good news? Let's do some good news.

952
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,280
Do you want to do some medium news? Nope. I want to do good news.

953
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:16,600
Wine 11 looks like an absolute flipping game changer.

954
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:21,640
And the timing of this, right in the midst of Linux challenge, while we're talking about

955
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,440
it, did you see that Reddit thread on the LTT subreddit this week?

956
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:29,800
Someone's like, I decided to do the Linux challenge alongside Linus, Elijah, and Lidia.

957
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,280
Yeah, I saw that too. Not going back. Really cool.

958
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:41,600
All right. The first time wine 11, so wine is short for wine is not an emulator.

959
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:52,280
It's the foundation of Proton and running x86 games on Linux, anywho, wine 11 uses NTSync,

960
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:59,840
a wine specific implementation of the NTSynchronization primitives, mutex, semaphores, events, et cetera,

961
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:04,360
that are baked deep into the Windows kernel that are relied upon to keep the various threads

962
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:10,360
of modern, multi-threaded applications, particularly games, coordinated.

963
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:16,160
Up until now, wine and, by extension, Proton have utilized eSync and fSync, which were

964
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:23,320
clever workarounds that were developed by Elizabeth Figuerra at CodeWeavers, which had some issues

965
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:27,680
and it's not her fault. But were a massive jump.

966
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:32,320
But they had some challenges because they just weren't deep enough.

967
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:37,000
With NTSync, Figuerra abends the approach of trying to replicate Windows behavior with

968
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:43,240
existing Linux primitives and instead introduces a new kernel driver now, going kernel, baby,

969
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:49,760
that directly models the NTSynchronization API and exposes a slash dev slash NTSync device

970
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:56,400
for wine to talk to. These new features have already been in use in some distros, including Bazite, but beginning

971
01:21:56,440 --> 01:22:02,640
with kernel 6.14, the changes have been merged into the mainline Linux kernel, meaning that

972
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:07,600
users of more mainstream distributions won't have to go out of their way to benefit from

973
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:16,720
the new code. Awesome. Now, for many changes, for many games, this is going to be a small or even completely

974
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:23,120
insignificant change, but for some games, particularly heavily multi-threaded games,

975
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:30,400
the impact is pretty impressive. Dirt 3 is highlighted here.

976
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:41,160
That's ridiculous. Went from 110.6 to 860.7 frames per second.

977
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:47,760
Tiny Tina's Wonderlands jumped from 130 to 360 and some previously unplayable games outright

978
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,680
like Cod Black Ops 1 are now playable.

979
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:56,880
In other wine news, Wine 11 now has its own complete implementation of WoW64.

980
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,240
So that's Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit.

981
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:04,440
The subsystem that allows 32-bit and even 16-bit Windows applications to run on 64-bit

982
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:08,200
systems without needing multi-lib packages.

983
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:12,520
That is so cool. There's a bunch of other smaller updates and tweaks that all come together to make the

984
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,800
experience of Windows gaming on Linux the best it's ever been.

985
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,680
And you can check out Dan, do you want to throw the link to the XDA developer's article

986
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,680
that brought this to our attention in the various chats?

987
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,920
Another thing that feels fantastic... Wow, voice crack. That feels fantastic about this.

988
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,560
I am really excited to vote on Wine 11.

989
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,280
Another thing that's really exciting about this is you seem to be cursed in regards

990
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:41,520
to timing, right? There was the weird steam bug the first time, and then there was the whatever, I don't know,

991
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:47,200
I don't follow POPOS, but that thing with the desktop environment that happened this

992
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:53,360
time. Cosmic. This is the first time, I think, that the timing has actually been really good.

993
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:58,160
Yeah. Because this has happened... Okay, we're saying we're in the middle of the Linux challenge.

994
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,720
I think we're over 30 days. Okay.

995
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:06,520
Yeah, but I'm... I noticed you were still running it on your laptop.

996
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:11,440
I saw that when we were setting up for the show.

997
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:17,760
I'm clearly still Linux-pilled right now.

998
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:25,920
I know at this point, I really, really don't see myself going back to Windows on my laptop.

999
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:34,960
I had to use Windows, I had to. Use Windows on someone else's system recently, and it was very icky.

1000
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:39,280
You rage out about it, like just about every week before we start the show on this machine.

1001
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,280
Yeah. Yeah. Cos, like, something will happen.

1002
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,400
Like, some AI thing will reinstall itself or...

1003
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:48,840
Recall is back on here after Dan scrubbed Recall off the system.

1004
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:53,320
It's like, right now, it's running okay. I don't know how it's using 50% of its RAM.

1005
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:58,160
That's insane, but it's not going crazy with the fans.

1006
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:04,720
It was previously because of failing to install Windows updates, but it's just kind of...

1007
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,920
There's ads, there's little pop-ups all over the place, they're just kind of annoying.

1008
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,960
So at this point, I'm not having any problems with my laptop, and it's actually been more

1009
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:19,520
productive to have Linux installed. I've spent less time fiddling with my operating system with Linux installed than with Windows.

1010
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:23,600
So there's no way I'm going back on my laptop. I still have issues.

1011
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:29,280
The Teams for Linux, like that weird web app thing, mostly works really great.

1012
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,920
My webcam is still not working, but that's a separate issue.

1013
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,040
Is it working in other applications? No.

1014
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:44,200
But Teams for Linux is just... It doesn't allow me to click a link, and then just open in my browser.

1015
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:49,480
If I click a link in here, it just doesn't do anything.

1016
01:25:49,480 --> 01:25:52,680
Oh, that's strange. I have not.

1017
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:59,480
Yeah. So there's definitely... But I mean, realistically, is it that much work to right-click, copy link, and then I

1018
01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:03,480
can paste and go?

1019
01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:12,720
It is an extra step, though. It was a few extra steps, but you know what I didn't have to do is reaffirm for the umpteen

1020
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:17,440
billionth time. No, I don't want this to open an edge. No, I do not, in fact, want this to open an edge.

1021
01:26:17,440 --> 01:26:20,480
So it's not even necessarily that much less clicking.

1022
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:24,160
Like, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't, right?

1023
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,280
So I might as well be damned in my own way.

1024
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,280
Yeah. You know? Peter has a take here.

1025
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:35,240
Peter from Flow Plane says, my personal take is personalization is a red herring.

1026
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,440
A proper Linux system just works, and there's no need to tinker.

1027
01:26:38,440 --> 01:26:41,480
That's a big part of what I'm talking about when it comes to my laptop.

1028
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,840
I have Linux Mint running on my laptop, and I've had to do nothing.

1029
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:50,760
Everything has just worked. It gets out of my way. The updates are really easy, easy to deal with, unproblematic.

1030
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,920
There's no, like, are you sure you want to not save this to OneDrive?

1031
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,200
Are you sure? Do you want me to recall that for you?

1032
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,440
Yes, I'm sure! Do you want to open this web page and edge?

1033
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:06,600
There's just, like, none of that stuff. Would you like me to stay, would you like to stay signed in?

1034
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,600
Yes! For the 40 trillionth time.

1035
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,600
I would! Yeah, so there's none of that.

1036
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:17,600
I click the button, I click the button, don't ask me again every time.

1037
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:22,600
And, like, I haven't even changed my background on my laptop, let alone, like, anything else.

1038
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,280
Like, I've done, I've done nothing.

1039
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:30,320
My desktop I've done more tinkering with, but, yeah, my laptop I've done nothing, I'm

1040
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:36,320
very happy with it. Would you like to sign in to just this application or system-wide?

1041
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:41,240
Just this application! How many times do I have to tell you?

1042
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:45,440
Every time. Because they want it to be system-wide. Would you like to sign in to MS Paint?

1043
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:48,440
No! Ever! Oh, dude!

1044
01:27:48,440 --> 01:27:53,040
Not ever. Dude! Oh, man, sorry, I'm going off, I'm going off now.

1045
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:59,920
Because- It's Linus's turn, I like this. I got an email, I got an email earlier this week from SwiftKey, okay?

1046
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:02,960
From SwiftKey. And I'm going to show this to you.

1047
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:07,680
Because this- They got it. This killed my brain, okay?

1048
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:13,600
So first of all, first of all, I'm mad because they are- they're cramming OneDrive so far

1049
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,720
down my throat that it's going to come out my butt, okay?

1050
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:22,680
From Microsoft, we're writing to let you know that SwiftKey accounts will be retired as

1051
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:29,840
of the 31st of May, 2026. To ensure a smoother, more secure experience, we'll be transitioning to standard Microsoft

1052
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,000
account sign-in for all users.

1053
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:39,200
Why this change? Well, it's part of our effort to make SwiftKey better, sure.

1054
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:46,880
Know it isn't. Blah, blah, blah. Your typing data will be more securely stored in, you guessed it, OneDrive.

1055
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:52,680
Okay, you'll benefit from enhanced privacy, blah, blah. You get a thousand Microsoft reward points, whatever those are.

1056
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,320
It simplifies your experience by using the same credentials you already use for other

1057
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:01,120
Microsoft apps and services. Fair enough, I have a Microsoft account.

1058
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:07,520
So sure, fundamentally, this doesn't make a difference to me.

1059
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,120
If it worked, okay, what does this mean for you?

1060
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,240
If you already use Microsoft to sign into SwiftKey, your data will be backed up to OneDrive

1061
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:20,680
as soon as it's ready. No further action is needed. Okay, first of all, Microsoft, I mean, you have my account.

1062
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,720
You emailed me, so you clearly know how I sign in.

1063
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,960
Do I use a Microsoft account? I don't know.

1064
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:31,960
You tell me. I probably haven't signed into SwiftKey in like a year.

1065
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:38,720
That's just for starters. Hold on. If you signed in with a different account, e.g., Google or Apple, you'll need to connect

1066
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:45,240
a Microsoft account to continue backing up your data. If you don't have an existing Microsoft account, you can easily create one with the same link

1067
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,700
below. Okay, fair enough.

1068
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:57,960
Connect your Microsoft account now. Oh my God, this works on mobile.

1069
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:02,840
That is hilarious. Okay, well, I went on a whole rant because I did it on desktop.

1070
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:08,400
Here, I'm going to show, okay, now I have to show you this to show I'm not crazy.

1071
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:13,640
Yeah, I mean, it is a mobile application, but it's an email, so like...

1072
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,240
So I opened it on my laptop. Yeah, yeah. One second.

1073
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:21,240
SwiftKey. Okay, this is crazy.

1074
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:26,040
Okay, I'm going to click it on here.

1075
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:34,120
Connect your Microsoft account now, and it literally just dumps me on the SwiftKey home

1076
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,120
page. Yeah. It doesn't take me to the account.

1077
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:41,960
Hold on, hold on. I'm going to use my Linux superpower, super granular screen brightness here.

1078
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,200
Okay, it just dumped me on the SwiftKey home page.

1079
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:50,520
There is nothing on here about anything to do with account migration, nothing.

1080
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,600
There's a link to the Google Play Store, view-supported languages. Luke, back me up on this.

1081
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,320
Oh yeah, for sure. Back me up on this, okay? Here's my...

1082
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:05,080
Just so I can prove, no Tom Fullery, here's the same email, I'm clicking the same link.

1083
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,080
You watched me do it. I think I watched her the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1084
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,080
Here's the page. Okay? Yeah, yeah.

1085
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:18,240
Okay, because I use Google to sign in, and so I went and I signed into my SwiftKey account

1086
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:22,080
also on my laptop, because I happened to be on my laptop when I got the email.

1087
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:26,120
There was nothing in there about where the data was stored, because I was pretty sure

1088
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,720
I used a Google account, and there was just nothing in there.

1089
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:37,360
You probably would have. So the only way to access this flow is to happen to open it on mobile.

1090
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:46,720
That's crazy. MRO Mutt says, thanks for making me feel normal about this whole SwiftKey thing.

1091
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:51,680
I went through the exact same thing. That's crazy.

1092
01:31:51,680 --> 01:32:02,440
Why would you send me to just your home page if I open it on desktop or a laptop?

1093
01:32:02,440 --> 01:32:05,800
You're Microsoft. You know about laptops.

1094
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:10,400
All right, okay, I'm marking that on red now so that I can deal with this later, because

1095
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,480
I actually would strongly prefer not to lose my dictionary.

1096
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:22,600
SwiftKey is a significant part of my stickiness on Android, because on iOS it sucks, and I've

1097
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:27,800
never actually verified this, but I assume it's due to Apple's better privacy around

1098
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:32,880
third-party apps and being able to monitor what you type.

1099
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:37,960
But for better or for worse, I've used SwiftKey for like 10 years now, and it has an extensive

1100
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,680
dictionary of everything that I need to talk about, which includes a lot of tech terms,

1101
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:53,840
and I care about not having to correct the same ducking thing a million times, and so

1102
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:59,680
having a dictionary that really works is really important to me and makes me more productive.

1103
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,160
I would really like to keep my SwiftKey library, so yeah, I'm going to fix that now.

1104
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,160
Sorry. What were we talking about? I don't remember.

1105
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,360
Just Linux stuff in general. Yeah. I think we're talking about how the Linux challenge is going.

1106
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:15,760
I realized, I think it was yesterday, that I should ask, like, oh, when is the Linux

1107
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:23,480
challenge over? When last time, I'm pretty sure we were getting like weekly updates and all talking together,

1108
01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:26,920
but like when we were allowed to go back, and I thought it was interesting that there

1109
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:32,720
hasn't really been a lot of chatter, and with how it's been being filmed, I feel like it's

1110
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:38,040
going to be going on for like a while longer, and I'm totally fine with that.

1111
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:44,160
I think the only thing drawing me back right now ... Is there like an impending game launch or something?

1112
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,160
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I really liked Forza Horizon 5.

1113
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,400
I didn't play any of the previous ones, but I had honestly a lot of fun with Forza Horizon

1114
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:58,240
5. It's a great game, and Forza Horizon 6 is coming on May 19th, but I genuinely, with the experience

1115
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:02,360
that I had very recently of using someone else's Windows machine, I genuinely think I might

1116
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:06,240
dual boot and just treat it like turning on a console. Right.

1117
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:09,840
I'll dual boot, play Horizon, when I'm done, just boot back into Linux.

1118
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,360
Do you think it'll work on Wine 11? No.

1119
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:18,200
Ah, I'm pretty anti-dual boot. I don't know if I can explain why.

1120
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:22,800
I don't love it. I don't like it either. It's like ... It feels like ...

1121
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,440
Forza Horizon is supported on Linux? Really? Horizon 5 is gold, apparently.

1122
01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:29,480
Really? I just looked it up on ProtonDB while you were talking about it.

1123
01:34:29,480 --> 01:34:32,880
Wow. Yeah. I didn't expect that.

1124
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,880
I didn't expect that because of the multiplayer.

1125
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:42,120
That was my guess. Is cheating a major issue in Forza Horizon?

1126
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:48,080
I don't think I ever played online. I don't care at all. It was the single-player game that I wanted to play.

1127
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,760
Even if you just can't play multiplayer or whatever, that is completely fine for me.

1128
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,920
I do not care. Okay. Chat says it has a stupid amount of cheating.

1129
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,920
Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm not too surprised.

1130
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:04,160
Yeah. Didn't Valve just ban a million accounts?

1131
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,480
I didn't see that in the doc. I didn't see that this week.

1132
01:35:07,480 --> 01:35:10,480
A million? Yeah. That's wild.

1133
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:13,480
Accounts. They're all playing CS. Yeah.

1134
01:35:13,480 --> 01:35:17,760
Nearly a million cheaters banned in Counter-Strike 2. 960,000 accounts.

1135
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:21,600
Cheaters are just in everything now. You know what's so funny? It's crazy.

1136
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:26,520
It's the first thing I was about to say when I read out that chat that, yeah, cheating

1137
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:31,640
is everywhere in Forza Horizon 5 was like, who would want to cheat in a racing game?

1138
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:35,080
And then I was like, okay, right, but like I could apply that exact same logic.

1139
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,280
Who would want to cheat in a shooting game? Who would want to cheat in a strategy game?

1140
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:42,040
You know, wouldn't that just defeat the entire purpose of playing the game and determining

1141
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,040
who's better at the game? Right.

1142
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:48,600
Yeah. Same logic applies across the board, I suppose.

1143
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,840
It's not just... Okay. So someone pointed out those accounts would AFK CS games to get weekly case drops.

1144
01:35:52,840 --> 01:36:00,960
Yeah. I heard that was a thing. I saw where somebody joined a public match as a spectator and all the bots detected that

1145
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,760
someone was a spectator, meaning they could see their gameplay and they just all disconnected

1146
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:09,760
at the same time. And it was like a massive percentage of the lobby, just all auto-disconnected.

1147
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:16,240
But I've also heard that people in ranked games will just like openly on the mic ask

1148
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:21,480
each other if they're cheating and if like 4 out of 5 of the players are cheating, they'll

1149
01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:26,640
just vote kick the fifth one.

1150
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:34,040
I don't know if it's like real. It could have been staged and acted out, but yeah, it's like way too much.

1151
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,840
But yeah, the Forza Horizon 5, the single-part campaign was amazing.

1152
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:44,240
All the additional add-ons were really cool. They collaborated with Donut and there's like a Donut Media little like mini challenge

1153
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:48,040
thing in it, which was like pretty sweet where you had to like build up a car and blah, blah,

1154
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:54,840
blah, blah, blah. It was awesome. I've been looking forward to six, but I mean, if it has a gold rating, maybe I'll just

1155
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,960
wait and then play it on Linux anyways. I don't need to play on release day.

1156
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:03,240
I don't care about that. And Ballard says real racers and real race cars are cheating too, you know.

1157
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,640
Mercedes this year and their F1 engine is probably legal. Okay, that one I understand.

1158
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:12,960
That just like is big money involved. Yeah. And that's like as far as my understanding goes, it's part of the fun of F1 is watching

1159
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,760
the different teams and how they work around the rules and then adapting year to year.

1160
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:22,520
It's like a bunch of people that I know that watch, watch it because they find the technological

1161
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:26,360
engineering side of it to be more interesting than anything else.

1162
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:34,080
So I don't know. All right. Why don't we jump into another topic here?

1163
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:39,360
Maybe we should do a short one here. Sure. This is just more of an FYI than anything else.

1164
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:44,200
Ubiquity has patched three significant flaws in their software and firmware, including

1165
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:51,320
a path traversal vulnerability found in version 10.1.85 and earlier of the Unify network

1166
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:58,160
application, aka Unify controller and Unify Express version 9.0.114 and earlier.

1167
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:04,120
See the security advisory for details and patch as soon as possible.

1168
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:07,160
Very, very important because that's really bad.

1169
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:10,680
It can allow account takeover. So patch all your Unify stuff.

1170
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:16,000
Please, please, please, please, please. And the source here is Ubiquity.

1171
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:22,080
Here's the advisory bulletin. You're going to want to let more people than this need to see it and make sure that they

1172
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:28,400
act on this. This is very, very important network infrastructure not to be taken lightly as far as security

1173
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,400
goes. I'm doing it right now. Okay.

1174
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,400
Hopefully you're like home stuff. Okay. Good.

1175
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,400
Okay. I was like, this is it. No, no, no, no.

1176
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,400
No, I don't do that anymore. No. Okay.

1177
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,680
On the subject. I'm sorry. On the subject.

1178
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:52,800
I had to intervene there. On the subject of networking infrastructure and security, routers are illegal in America

1179
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:58,320
now. Okay. That's a bit of a sensationalist headline, but it's also not that far off.

1180
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:04,480
An FCC policy update earlier this week effectively bans the sale of consumer grade routers that

1181
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:12,000
are not made in the US, which as far as we can tell is pretty much all of them, except

1182
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:18,240
some percentage of Starlink routers, unless they have already received FCC authorization.

1183
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,840
I think it's going to be a lot of them, which is, which is all of them.

1184
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,840
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

1185
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:29,600
And so this is kind of like the drone thing. Yes. Remember when they banned all non-US made drones and, but then all the ones that are for sale

1186
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:37,120
now are fine. Honestly, to me, this kind of rhymes with China banning battery banks that aren't made in

1187
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:41,120
China. Is that the case? It's something like that.

1188
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,120
Oh, no, no, no. It's a particular Chinese certification.

1189
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,120
CCC or whatever. Yeah. That's not made in China.

1190
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:53,200
That's, that's separate. That's separate. But as far as my understanding goes, it's almost entirely ones that are made in China?

1191
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:56,760
Well, I mean, most battery banks are made in China.

1192
01:39:56,760 --> 01:40:00,120
But like, say hypothetically. CCS.

1193
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:07,320
Say hypothetically, no, it's CCC, I believe. Okay. Say hypothetically, we were to make a battery bank.

1194
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:15,200
You could get it certified for that. And let's say our cells were made in hypothetically, you know, Korea or, you know, somewhere,

1195
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:20,120
and our PCBs were made, you know, wherever, and, you know, whatever, right, stuff, right?

1196
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:24,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We could totally just do CCC certification.

1197
01:40:24,440 --> 01:40:32,000
Nothing would prevent that. Because is, are there certification houses outside of China that do that certification?

1198
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,680
No idea. But finding a certification house in China for battery banks is-

1199
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,680
Gotta be easy. Is pretty simple. They gotta be all over the place.

1200
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:42,920
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, there is a little bit more to talk through on this one.

1201
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:48,760
It's not clear exactly what constitutes consumer grade, but foreign made appears to be anything

1202
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:53,720
physically manufactured outside the U.S. regardless of what country the company is based in.

1203
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:58,720
This policy change comes after the commission received a national security determination,

1204
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:02,920
which states that vulnerabilities in foreign made, small, and home office routers represent

1205
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:10,160
unacceptable risk to Americans. An FCC fact sheet clarifies that the update does not prohibit the import, sale, or use

1206
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:15,000
of any existing device models that the FCC previously authorized.

1207
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:22,440
All new models will need to be approved by DOW of DHS or, oh, or DHS, I think that probably

1208
01:41:22,440 --> 01:41:25,960
means I'm going to go with OR. There.

1209
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:31,800
The FCC notice also offers some details on how companies can obtain conditional approval

1210
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:38,120
with exactly zero questions about security, but it must include a detailed time-bound

1211
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:42,280
plan for onshore manufacturing to the U.S.

1212
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,880
In statements to the Verge, both TP-Link and ASUS expressed confidence in the security

1213
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,120
of their respective supply chains, and neither company gave any indication that they would

1214
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:53,520
move any manufacturing capacity to the U.S. for consumer routers.

1215
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,920
You want some real expensive routers? Yeah.

1216
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:02,200
I mean, is that our conversation or our discussion topic for this one?

1217
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:06,720
There's some like, I don't know how I'd find this.

1218
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:17,880
Serve the Home had a video on it, or was it Serve the Home? Serve the Home was on Geerling's channel, I think, talking about a really cool looking,

1219
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:22,600
I'm pretty sure it was a router, but it was very expensive.

1220
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:29,280
I mean, yeah, Serve the Home is talking about it, it's probably expensive.

1221
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:34,160
That's a circle. Things Serve the Home covers and things that are very expensive, perfect circle, completely

1222
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:41,240
overlapping. Yeah. I mean, he does a lot of commercial enterprise-grade stuff, he does a great job.

1223
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:45,080
Well, he was on Geerling's channel, and Geerling sometimes covers some cheaper stuff.

1224
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:52,200
Ooh, yeah. Geerling sometimes covers some very expensive stuff. He does, and I think this is 600 bucks, and it's probably 600 bucks American.

1225
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,240
Like the old real dollars. A lot of dollars.

1226
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:58,840
Yeah, I think it was this video, whoop, from Jan2.

1227
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,040
Are you planning to skip that out at some point? Thank you.

1228
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,040
I don't usually watch YouTube with ads. You're killing me. Where is it?

1229
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:09,080
It's not that one. It's what's in his hand right there. I love Patrick's shirt.

1230
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:14,080
Nice. I love that they're both just like solid color, white text.

1231
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:19,640
Nice. But yeah, it's a pretty cool looking little thing.

1232
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:20,640
This one.

1233
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:26,760
But, and I think this is made in the US. I think I've heard of this thing.

1234
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:32,200
Monorotor, specifically DevKit model. Yeah, I think, yeah, and I'm pretty sure it's made in the US, but it's, again, it's

1235
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:36,000
600 US dollars, final price of the kit, right here.

1236
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:40,600
Woof. I think I've heard of this, sir. What's it called, mono?

1237
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:44,040
Not made in the US. Oh, it's made in the EU. Okay.

1238
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:50,320
Well, then it doesn't solve the problem, but it's a cool video and it's a cool little

1239
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:54,320
device. Maybe check that out. What do you want, Sammy?

1240
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,820
Bye. Bye. Bye, Sammy.

1241
01:43:57,820 --> 01:44:02,160
Check Republic. Oh, these guys reached out to me, out to me at some point.

1242
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:06,400
Oh, well. Did I not reply to them? I think I meant to.

1243
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:12,040
Well, oops. Wow, good for them.

1244
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:16,120
That's so cool. Watching the video they sent me that was about like the development of this thing.

1245
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:21,040
If it's the one that I'm thinking of, we raised $500,000 to manufacture our high end

1246
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,040
router. Yeah, yeah, this thing. That's it, for sure.

1247
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:29,680
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, that's super cool. I totally, I did not mean to ghost these guys.

1248
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:34,040
I must have just accidentally marked the email as well. I wasn't trying to set you up for that, I had no idea.

1249
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:38,160
No, no, no, no. Yeah, that's, I mean, I think everyone misses an email from time to time.

1250
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:42,120
Yeah, sure. Um, but yeah, wow, yeah, good for them.

1251
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:46,080
That's fantastic. They are, they're across the line now. Right?

1252
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:52,080
Well, it is, I mean, it is fantastic, but also I'm pretty sure if you go to his, um,

1253
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,280
like his actual YouTube channel, okay, Tom Oz, right?

1254
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,280
And then what's this? Yeah, something like that. Oh my God, I closed it.

1255
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,280
I'm sorry. Hold on one second. Oh, good.

1256
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:04,280
Uh, the Xammon.

1257
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:11,480
He has a recent video, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1258
01:45:11,480 --> 01:45:14,480
We built a thousand routers and made $0.

1259
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:25,480
Yeah. Relatable. I don't know, um, uh, yeah, right.

1260
01:45:25,480 --> 01:45:31,880
Um, I, oh dude, and then there was the recent thing where, uh, Der Bauer got completely

1261
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:40,200
f***ed over on some not proper, yeah, um, it's so funny because every time we make one

1262
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:44,520
of those videos that's like, it took us three years to make a screwdriver.

1263
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:49,400
Ask me why. You know, if we took three years to make a four years or ever along, it took to make

1264
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:56,920
the cables. But why is that out people, there, there will inevitably be like, uh, uh, a contingent of

1265
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:00,960
people in the comments that are like, yeah, it's because you guys are so f***ing incompetent

1266
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:07,440
and blah, blah, dude, creating anything is so hard.

1267
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:15,880
And I think that it has fundamentally altered my perspective to move from, from selling,

1268
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:27,040
like being a merchant, to reviewing and evaluating, to actually making, to, to, to, to being responsible

1269
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:32,920
for everything from the initial funding to the final delivery, the final quality of the

1270
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:43,040
delivered product. It's so much harder and it makes it, it's, it's given me, I think at, at times a perspective

1271
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:50,720
that people have found abrasive, um, where I'm, and it can come across, I think a little

1272
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:56,880
bit boot liqory where I'm like, yeah, but I, I get it.

1273
01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:02,700
I see their side, I see their perspective because I mean, here, let's bring up something

1274
01:47:02,700 --> 01:47:10,560
really uncomfortable, mod mat, where you're publicly talking about is the mod mat.

1275
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,640
Where is the mod mat? Where is it? Where is it?

1276
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,640
Linus? Where is it? I don't, I know nothing about it.

1277
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:27,520
I know it doesn't exist. What it, where it is, is it is figuratively in a space that illustrates the challenges

1278
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:31,080
of creating physical products.

1279
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:34,740
That's where it is right now. Right now. How do we get it out of there?

1280
01:47:34,740 --> 01:47:37,900
It's releasing on April 1st. Uh, no, no, it isn't.

1281
01:47:37,900 --> 01:47:40,900
It totally is.

1282
01:47:40,900 --> 01:47:47,780
Sure. No, it's not. April 1st joke is that it's a joke, but it's still not out.

1283
01:47:47,780 --> 01:47:50,780
Yeah. Yeah. So.

1284
01:47:50,780 --> 01:48:00,260
I also didn't say which year. Jesus. Um, but yeah, cool little device.

1285
01:48:01,260 --> 01:48:05,680
Apparently not made in the States, so totally irrelevant to the conversation, but maybe

1286
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:11,560
go check it out. I wish I'm not. It's funny how, um, a lot of people will assume that anything made in the West is made in

1287
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:17,960
the States. Like I saw, we, we had a video earlier this week about, oh my gosh, it's not in the dock.

1288
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:21,080
ARM makes CPUs now. Yeah.

1289
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:29,280
Yeah. We had a whole video about that earlier this week. You should go watch it because ARM instead of just licensing IP or providing sort of

1290
01:48:29,300 --> 01:48:35,540
prefabbed, um, you know, ready for you to integrate into your own silicon sort of IP

1291
01:48:35,540 --> 01:48:38,700
guidance and kits, uh, core designs, what do they call them?

1292
01:48:38,700 --> 01:48:45,580
CCS or something. I forget they call it, but basically these like kind of, uh, blocks of various IPs that

1293
01:48:45,580 --> 01:48:49,500
include their processing cores that you can, you know, cobble together your own processor

1294
01:48:49,500 --> 01:48:54,780
out of. Instead of just doing that, they actually are going to be directly selling ARM branded

1295
01:48:54,780 --> 01:49:01,780
silicon in the, in the data center now, uh, specifically for AI, um, to their credit,

1296
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:10,440
what thereafter is making AI way more efficient, which is like, if we're going to have AI,

1297
01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:14,080
it being more efficient seems like not terrible.

1298
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:18,840
Um, but anyway, where was I, where's it going with the, right, uh, I saw a bunch of comments

1299
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:23,920
that were like, Oh yeah. Now we have like, you know, America made, you know, an American CPU brand.

1300
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:28,020
We have America made CPUs and something, something, something's like, bro, like acorn

1301
01:49:28,020 --> 01:49:31,660
started in Europe. Like what are you talking about?

1302
01:49:31,660 --> 01:49:36,900
It's not American company. Uh, like, what about Intel and Qualcomm?

1303
01:49:36,900 --> 01:49:44,380
Well, okay. So hold on a second. This was something that I, I looked up like three times to make sure that I had it right.

1304
01:49:44,380 --> 01:49:47,940
IIR FTW says, uh, oh wait, no, no, you're right.

1305
01:49:47,940 --> 01:49:55,640
Yeah. ARM hasn't made their own chip since the BBC micro. So ARM got up on stage and said, this is the first time we're making an ARM chip.

1306
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:58,680
And I kind of went, well, that doesn't sound right because I thought that was literally

1307
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:06,320
like what you guys did the first, you know, time. And there's that famous story of how the ARM chip was so efficient that they powered it

1308
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:11,640
off and just like, there was enough power in the signal lines or something that it would

1309
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:17,400
like stayed powered on for a long time or something. And they came in the lab the next day and it was like still outputting or something.

1310
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,400
Whoa. Yeah. It's crazy, crazy efficient chip.

1311
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:27,860
It was made by Acorn. That was before they became ARM, which happened, I think like two or three years later or something

1312
01:50:27,860 --> 01:50:33,900
like that. I like the Acorn name. This is the first actual ARM CPU.

1313
01:50:33,900 --> 01:50:39,180
Sweet. More people should maybe go watch that video.

1314
01:50:39,180 --> 01:50:42,180
Yeah. Yeah. It did okay.

1315
01:50:42,180 --> 01:50:46,620
It did okay. I mean, and it's the video form of like a press release. Like I can't benchmark it.

1316
01:50:46,620 --> 01:50:53,360
But true. This has major, major implications for the tech industry.

1317
01:50:53,360 --> 01:51:01,840
It was very interesting to me being at the event and seeing ARM stock drop during the

1318
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:05,520
keynote. And I was like, really, what?

1319
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,640
I don't understand this. Why is it dropping?

1320
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:14,200
This actually seems huge. And then it popped.

1321
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:18,840
And then now we're back in what, what, what, what do you, what do you even, what do you

1322
01:51:19,540 --> 01:51:26,340
even, our stock values anymore? I don't understand it. Everything's just based on whatever's more entertaining, I think.

1323
01:51:26,340 --> 01:51:30,700
Ebalorid says this happens to Apple stock every keynote too, really?

1324
01:51:30,700 --> 01:51:34,820
So is this just like, like, is this like a high frequency machine trading thing that's

1325
01:51:34,820 --> 01:51:40,740
just like the play, you know, you, stocks are based on vibes.

1326
01:51:40,740 --> 01:51:43,940
Yeah, I get it. And not advice. Like not advice guys.

1327
01:51:43,940 --> 01:51:47,540
I, this is not financial advice.

1328
01:51:47,540 --> 01:51:59,160
But I, I think it's a pretty exciting opportunity. I don't love the way that they were so focused on its application for AI in the product announcement

1329
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:06,240
because you're, when you tie your cart to that horse, you kind of live and die by it.

1330
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:14,080
And when you look at the implementations of arms cores that are, that have already made

1331
01:52:14,100 --> 01:52:19,100
their way, like you can, you can rent an ARM instance from Amazon right now, like you can

1332
01:52:19,100 --> 01:52:24,780
go right now and you can get a graviton instance and you can like use ARM data center processors

1333
01:52:24,780 --> 01:52:29,220
right the second. And they, they don't have to be for AI.

1334
01:52:29,220 --> 01:52:35,780
They can be for other things. And so I would have liked to see them talk a little bit more about what else these CPUs

1335
01:52:35,780 --> 01:52:39,820
can do because I'm sure they can do other stuff.

1336
01:52:39,820 --> 01:52:45,120
But I also understand why in the current climate with so much build out happening around AI,

1337
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:50,680
why, why they focused on is just, I wish they had, I wish they'd talked about, oh, and also

1338
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:55,280
all this other stuff, this legacy stuff that will also still exist, you know, at some point

1339
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:58,440
in the future, we can do that too.

1340
01:52:58,440 --> 01:53:03,480
Oh, disclosure, that video was sponsored by ARM.

1341
01:53:03,480 --> 01:53:09,720
Our trip down was sponsored by ARM. So take that for, for what it is, but I'm, they're not sponsored here and they're not

1342
01:53:09,740 --> 01:53:12,700
going to be watching this. So I'm, yeah, I'm saying whatever.

1343
01:53:13,460 --> 01:53:16,300
Nice. Nice. Nice.

1344
01:53:16,980 --> 01:53:19,420
Oh, we should probably do sponsors. Speaking of sponsors.

1345
01:53:21,260 --> 01:53:24,340
Until sponsors. No, we should do sponsors. Okay.

1346
01:53:24,620 --> 01:53:30,100
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All right. You want to pick a topic? Sure. I'm feeling a Luke topic.

1378
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,520
Hold on. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to try to predict which one it is.

1379
01:55:56,260 --> 01:55:59,620
I'm going to predict it. Okay. I've got it on my screen.

1380
01:55:59,700 --> 01:56:03,580
I'm ready. I did a last minute pivot to change my mind.

1381
01:56:03,580 --> 01:56:05,300
We'll see if he predicted that far.

1382
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:12,420
Meta and Google found liable. Oh, I was on that one first.

1383
01:56:12,900 --> 01:56:13,940
Which one was your first one?

1384
01:56:20,820 --> 01:56:26,040
Oh man. Meta and Google found liable in landmark social media addiction trial.

1385
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:30,160
Two landmark rulings against social media companies happened this week.

1386
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:37,120
Tuesday, a New Mexico jury ordered Meta to pay $375 million for misleading parents

1387
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:45,720
about the safety of Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp. Then on Wednesday, an LA jury found Meta and YouTube negligent for harming kids

1388
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:53,020
through addictive platform design. Awarding the plaintiff in the case, 3 million in damages, uh, 70% of that from

1389
01:56:53,020 --> 01:56:56,540
Meta, 30% of that from YouTube. The New Mexico case.

1390
01:56:56,540 --> 01:57:02,340
So the first one grew out of a 2023 undercover sting conducted by the

1391
01:57:02,340 --> 01:57:05,060
guardian, uh, like the newspaper. Yeah.

1392
01:57:05,380 --> 01:57:09,700
Uh, okay. Cool. To investigate investigative journalism, let's go to investigate the risks that

1393
01:57:09,980 --> 01:57:14,700
children are exposed to on Instagram and Facebook, internal documents and

1394
01:57:14,700 --> 01:57:19,320
testimony from former employees show Meta repeatedly ignored warnings about

1395
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:22,360
child safety, surprise, surprise.

1396
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:26,880
No one would have ever guessed the New Mexico, nope.

1397
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:31,320
Sorry. Law enforcement also testified that Meta's crime reporting was deficient

1398
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:36,520
because Meta relied too heavily on AI moderation, generating high volumes of junk

1399
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:39,480
reports that made investigations practically impossible.

1400
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:45,820
Surprise, surprise. Again, during that trial, Zuckerberg and Instagram lead, uh, or sorry,

1401
01:57:45,820 --> 01:57:52,740
Instagram head Adam Mosseri testified that, that harms to children were inevitable

1402
01:57:52,940 --> 01:57:56,140
on their platform due to their massive user bases.

1403
01:57:56,620 --> 01:57:59,980
Huh. Okay. Um, cool.

1404
01:58:00,140 --> 01:58:06,540
The $375 million penalty, $5,000 per violation with 75,000 violations is

1405
01:58:06,540 --> 01:58:11,280
substantial, but is less than one-fifth of what the prosecutors initially sought.

1406
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:17,280
Though further restitution might be ordered as the case moves to a bench trial in

1407
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:22,560
May, where a judge will rule on public nuisance claims that could see Meta being

1408
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:25,960
forced to change how its platforms work. Wow. Awesome.

1409
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:31,960
Interesting. Uh, the LA case was a seven week trial brought by a 20 year old woman.

1410
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:38,500
Okay. Uh, sure. I think at the point is just that she's young and pretty much is at an age now

1411
01:58:38,700 --> 01:58:41,740
where she grew up being impacted by these platforms. Got it.

1412
01:58:41,740 --> 01:58:45,020
Okay. I think that's the only reason we're mentioning the age. Sure.

1413
01:58:45,180 --> 01:58:49,500
Um, her argument was that Meta and YouTube deliberately designed their

1414
01:58:49,500 --> 01:58:57,780
platforms with features like infinite scroll. That's kind of the primary one, uh, auto play, which kind of ties into infinite scroll.

1415
01:58:57,780 --> 01:59:04,920
I don't really know that many things that infinitely scroll, but you have to press the play button, uh, and push notifications that exploit dopamine responses to

1416
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:10,680
keep kids hooked. The plaintiff's lawyers focused on the app's design rather than their content,

1417
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:14,120
which I actually personally completely agree with, which is what allowed them to

1418
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:20,960
get around section 230. Um, I think any app that infinitely scrolls, you should be looking at critically.

1419
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:25,360
Um, anyways, Meta's defense tied to argue her struggles.

1420
01:59:26,100 --> 01:59:30,700
Meta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors,

1421
01:59:30,940 --> 01:59:33,500
a difficult family life, bullying at school.

1422
01:59:33,940 --> 01:59:39,100
Um, they pointed out, yeah, uh, they pointed out this is Floatplane.

1423
01:59:39,580 --> 01:59:43,580
Yeah. I think you should scrutinize why it does that and how it affects your

1424
01:59:43,580 --> 01:59:47,820
usage of the platform. And I think the end result is not algorithmic.

1425
01:59:47,860 --> 01:59:51,260
So I think the end result of scrutinizing that on full plane is, uh, it

1426
01:59:51,260 --> 01:59:54,380
doesn't really actually do anything, uh, which is fine.

1427
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:58,040
And then I think you can look at a platform like, like Instagram and be like,

1428
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:03,280
Oh wow, this is very clearly designed to keep me going. I'm just, I'm just saying, no, I think you should scrutinize it though.

1429
02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:05,800
And I have had this thought before of like, Oh, Floatplane does that.

1430
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:09,240
But I, in my case, I think it's fine, not infinite.

1431
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:14,400
That's kind of true. You do technically come to an end, but I think it's, I think it's.

1432
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:19,960
Long enough that it, it could be put in the category still.

1433
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:23,240
Yeah. And I managed to scroll through so many videos that it's like bogged down

1434
02:00:23,260 --> 02:00:25,940
enough that it's not a great infinite scrolling experience.

1435
02:00:27,140 --> 02:00:33,180
You're out of the preload. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's, it's like the platform is really not designed for that

1436
02:00:33,180 --> 02:00:37,220
type of infinite scrolling, like Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, et cetera,

1437
02:00:37,220 --> 02:00:41,540
Facebook, et cetera, are all designed to really like that is what they're for.

1438
02:00:41,540 --> 02:00:44,380
And they're designed to keep you there and they're going to autoplay everything and all that kind of stuff.

1439
02:00:44,580 --> 02:00:49,380
Full plane is really not like that, even though it can load, I will defend

1440
02:00:49,380 --> 02:00:53,040
this forever. Anyways, okay. Uh, yeah.

1441
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:58,320
Met his defense, met his defense, tried to argue that her struggles were caused

1442
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:05,040
by other factors, a difficult family life, bullying at school. They also pointed out that notes from six months of therapy, didn't mention

1443
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:09,200
social media addiction or name any apps. Imagine going after someone that way.

1444
02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:13,320
Imagine someone saying, Hey, your product damaged me.

1445
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:19,600
And you being like, yo, y'all broken cause your family sucks.

1446
02:01:19,700 --> 02:01:24,140
And you were bullied at our platform was just, we just took advantage of that.

1447
02:01:24,180 --> 02:01:28,940
Couldn't help noticing that you had six months of therapy and the notes.

1448
02:01:29,540 --> 02:01:34,100
Dude, I don't know. Like, what did, did she, I mean, that's part of discovery.

1449
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:38,100
I guess they could ask for something like that. Maybe you get notes from your therapy.

1450
02:01:38,100 --> 02:01:40,860
I don't know if that sounds crazy, but that sounds nuts to me.

1451
02:01:42,260 --> 02:01:49,100
I mean, I, I've never, I've never, look, there's a, I am not a litigious person.

1452
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:52,880
You know, if I'm ever, I want to make it clear that if I'm ever pushed

1453
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:58,200
to pass the limit, like, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll do it, but I really don't want to.

1454
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:02,840
And I've managed to be in this industry for this long without ending up in a court room.

1455
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:09,360
I'd like to keep it that way. Um, what, what, what, what, what, what, what was I going to say here?

1456
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:15,800
It was, uh, yeah. So I don't, so I don't know like how this process works, but from everything

1457
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:20,220
I've heard, it sucks. Yes, you can absolutely get therapy notes.

1458
02:02:20,220 --> 02:02:22,140
Wow. That's super sketch.

1459
02:02:23,820 --> 02:02:26,060
So what you're telling me is don't go to therapy.

1460
02:02:28,620 --> 02:02:32,220
That's not what we're saying. Not advice. Yeah. I'm going to sit over here for a second.

1461
02:02:32,780 --> 02:02:38,420
I tried. I friggin hated it. Uh, but anyways, uh, that's a story for another time.

1462
02:02:38,420 --> 02:02:45,700
Maybe not when, yeah, yeah. Uh, jurors nearly unanimously sided with the plaintiff, awarding her $3 million

1463
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:50,160
damages with the jury still deliberating on punitive damages, which

1464
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:57,800
could significantly increase the payout. Yeah. $3 million sounded like just a slap on the wrist, but if you, um, sort of

1465
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:03,400
look at the bigger picture here, there are over 3000 similar lawsuits

1466
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:07,360
pending in California, plus more than 40 state attorneys general who have

1467
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:13,720
filed against meta and that $3 million is to one person.

1468
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:19,000
The floodgates could be open here.

1469
02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:26,680
It could be kind of fun. Um, discussion questions. Section 230 has been the bedrock legal defense for social media companies for

1470
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:29,520
30 years. These two juries just rejected it.

1471
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:33,840
If that precedent holds up on appeal, what does the social media landscape

1472
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:37,560
look like when platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content kids?

1473
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:41,640
I think it could look a lot more like it used to look where you friend people

1474
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:45,240
and then you see whatever your friend actually posted. Awesome.

1475
02:03:45,500 --> 02:03:48,700
The internet being cool again would be so sick. Yeah, I'd be down.

1476
02:03:48,700 --> 02:03:52,940
It would be so cool. I would, I'm a little older now.

1477
02:03:53,700 --> 02:03:56,580
I would use Facebook. Me too. Like the old one.

1478
02:03:56,780 --> 02:04:02,580
Yeah, me too. I would legitimately use it. I would, I would be an active user and like you could, you can go on my Facebook.

1479
02:04:02,580 --> 02:04:07,620
You can see that even when Facebook was not cool, what kind of cool.

1480
02:04:08,060 --> 02:04:10,660
What are we missing then? Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to find me.

1481
02:04:11,300 --> 02:04:14,660
They want ID laws for app stores. Oh, I think these things are different.

1482
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:19,080
Yeah, this is, that's, that's not what we're talking about. I agree with you that that sucks, but I think these things are different.

1483
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:24,240
Where am I? I don't know. I don't know how to, I don't know how to find myself on Facebook.

1484
02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:26,560
Literally don't know how to use Facebook.

1485
02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:32,160
This is cute though. I don't know. This is, this is from the LTT channel.

1486
02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:34,440
Nice. Don't talk to me or my son ever again.

1487
02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:42,720
The job social media. Anyway, the point is I, I like posted not at all, but I'm, if I was actually

1488
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:47,460
posting to people who I actually am connected with and care about, then I'd

1489
02:04:47,460 --> 02:04:51,340
probably, I'd probably use it just cause I don't socially interact with those

1490
02:04:51,340 --> 02:04:54,900
people in person all the time anymore. And it's, it's easy.

1491
02:04:54,900 --> 02:05:02,460
It's convenient. It's just, it's so, it's so unusable now that there's no temptation whatsoever

1492
02:05:02,460 --> 02:05:09,780
beyond messenger. Short form dopamine abusing garbage trash content is like everywhere now.

1493
02:05:09,900 --> 02:05:14,920
And it's also on Facebook. It was just like, oh, it's especially on Facebook.

1494
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:18,800
I had to go on there to message a family member very recently, jumped on

1495
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:26,040
Facebook, on desktop, and just like looked around for a sec and was just like,

1496
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:30,900
Oh, it's so bad. And if you frequent communities like, am I the asshole?

1497
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:37,080
Um, you'll see, you'll start to see the like repurposing and recirculation of

1498
02:05:37,380 --> 02:05:40,920
like AI generated stories with like slightly different twists.

1499
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:45,200
And so there'll be a version of it that you notice on Facebook, uh, where, you

1500
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:48,300
know, he cheated and then this happened and then this happened and then this happened.

1501
02:05:48,300 --> 02:05:55,120
And then there was a thing with my dog and like, you've got these, these stories that are just designed for you to like keep staying engaged to find

1502
02:05:55,120 --> 02:06:00,600
out what happens next. And it's, it's all fake.

1503
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:04,440
Yeah. Except when it isn't, but it seems to be all fake.

1504
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:13,320
Yeah. So gross. Um, I don't know the, the, the comments about the, uh, age verification

1505
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:19,960
for app stores thing. I don't, I understand where you're coming from about these things being related

1506
02:06:20,920 --> 02:06:24,160
because this whole thing is algorithms for kids.

1507
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,960
No, but the, okay, this is, but I think there are two things happening at

1508
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:30,960
the same time that have similar topics.

1509
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:37,040
And I also think that if we are, if we're talking about this product being

1510
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:43,360
designed to be harmful for kids in a way where it's, uh, keeping you engaged

1511
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:49,920
through intentional like dopamine spikes, it's not a far reach to go, okay, but

1512
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:52,920
then is it also designed to be harmful to adults? Yeah.

1513
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:59,480
And I think it's harmful to everyone. And, and so we could end up with a very good outcome here, you know, in much

1514
02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:04,360
the same way that, you know, marketing is restricted in many territories around

1515
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:08,920
products like cigarettes, drugs, alcohol, uh, it used to be for gambling.

1516
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:13,240
I don't know what happened there. We sort of had a good thing and then we decided, ah, you know what, forget it.

1517
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:22,720
Let's just let it go rampant. Sorry. Once a, uh, serious scaper is, I think their, their name says this is walking

1518
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:25,800
the internet as we know it, meaning LTT forum, flowplaning such will be liable.

1519
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:29,200
Actually, neither of those that you need to be liable at all based on the

1520
02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:33,240
reading that I've have here. Because we don't algorithmically serve content.

1521
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:38,800
Yeah. We don't do it at all. So I, I haven't personally read section 230, but the notes that we have in the

1522
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:44,160
doc here, um, say specifically that platforms can be sued for how their

1523
02:07:44,160 --> 02:07:51,000
algorithms serve content to kids. It's not the content itself that they're liable for because yeah, section 230,

1524
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:56,920
they didn't create the content. They can't be responsible for every user generated piece of content that's

1525
02:07:56,920 --> 02:08:03,320
uploaded to their sites, but what they can be responsible for is curating it.

1526
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:10,920
Algorithmically to generate a stimulus, a stimulus response, uh, chemical

1527
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:16,920
reaction in your brain that keeps you hooked on it. That's the conversation, not the content itself.

1528
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:23,440
So there's not a single platform that we operate that would fall under that.

1529
02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:27,360
And serious scaper is making a bit of a slippery slope argument here about

1530
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:30,400
this opening the door is the sort of the next thing that they're saying here.

1531
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:38,840
And you know what, maybe I, I personally do not immediately dismiss a slippery

1532
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:44,160
slope fallacy argument because there's plenty of historical precedent for the

1533
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:50,080
slippery slope, absolutely being a thing where I take issue with your argument

1534
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:54,640
though, is that I don't think that this slope that we're on in this particular

1535
02:08:54,680 --> 02:09:00,560
ruling leads to repealing section 230 or significantly revising it.

1536
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:07,000
I don't think that anyone in their right mind is going to make a platform

1537
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:12,560
responsible for every single individual thing that a user posts because it's

1538
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:16,320
not realistic. It's just plain not realistic.

1539
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:20,240
Yeah. Algorithmic suggestion is, is quite different from UGC.

1540
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:30,760
It's interesting. I think something needs to change. I totally understand the whole slippery slope thing and that being a concern.

1541
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:36,360
I think where we're at now is like extremely toxic and extremely negative

1542
02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:40,720
for all of humanity that is connected to the internet and has to be addressed

1543
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:45,200
somehow. I don't know that this is the best way. I don't know that this leads us down the best path.

1544
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:51,080
Okay. Something's got to change. I do think serious scaper might be a little bit kind of barking down

1545
02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:55,240
the wrong path a little bit. It's saying literally the ones who want laws to pass that would require

1546
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:57,960
ID laws, a case surveillance is these giant tech companies.

1547
02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:03,280
And this is the next step. No, no, no, no, no, they want ID laws and all of that.

1548
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:06,560
They want more personal information. They oppose this.

1549
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:11,240
They lost this case. This, this lawsuit, they lost it.

1550
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:15,920
This is not the direction they want to go. This is the opposite of what they want right now.

1551
02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:26,320
So this is, we're not saying yes, this is good because it benefits Facebook

1552
02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:29,760
and Meta and Google. That's not what happened here.

1553
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:38,240
What happened is Meta and Google lost in a way that has the potential to make

1554
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:43,760
the kind of algorithmic serving of content that has become so addictive.

1555
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:51,880
That it is doing measurable damage to a generation of people illegal,

1556
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:57,760
hopefully, or at least financially impractical. We should stop this topic, but I'll throw in one last thing.

1557
02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:02,400
It says literally the parents of the kids in this case came out and said past COSA, which is a surveillance law.

1558
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:06,600
Yeah, but that's not what the case was about. Right. They can say whatever they want.

1559
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:09,920
They could come out and say chicken wings are better than burgers.

1560
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:14,480
Or I prefer hot dogs and waffles suck and I'm a pancakes boy.

1561
02:11:15,320 --> 02:11:19,520
And it wouldn't mean anything. But anyways, let's talk more good news.

1562
02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:22,080
I understand your point. And I think it is a valid concern.

1563
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:27,160
Bigger battle mage is here.

1564
02:11:28,160 --> 02:11:34,600
The Arc Pro B 65 and B 70 were announced earlier this week.

1565
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:37,360
And we've got a couple of spec sheets here.

1566
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:43,200
One for the B 65 and one for the B 70.

1567
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:45,320
Let's go ahead and let's go ahead and pull these up.

1568
02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:49,680
And this is so funny. I'm on Intel Arc reading about Intel Arc.

1569
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:53,480
Yo, dawg, I heard you like arcs. So I put arc on your arc so you can arc will you arc.

1570
02:11:54,040 --> 02:11:59,600
I don't think they call this arc anymore. But the joke is that Intel's product specifications.

1571
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:04,280
Website where you could just kind of look at a data sheet like this.

1572
02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:06,960
For any product or used to be called Intel Arc. Yeah.

1573
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:12,720
All right. So what do we got? What do we got? Micro architecture, XC2, TSMC and five.

1574
02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:16,760
Oh man, you see what TSMC said about unless you're like a loyal long term

1575
02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:21,960
customer, you ain't getting no in three. So yeah, Intel probably wouldn't fall under that.

1576
02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:27,040
So they're going to have to fab their own GPUs going forward. It sounds like I'd probably reading too much into it, but whatever.

1577
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:33,320
So the 65 gets 20 XC cores and the 70 gets 32.

1578
02:12:33,320 --> 02:12:39,360
So this is what was probably supposed to be the rumored B 70.

1579
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:44,800
But the bad part of the news is we're not getting that in a consumer card.

1580
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:51,120
The good part of the news here is that, Hey, at least it's coming to light.

1581
02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:56,800
So it does exist, which means maybe if the rampocalypse, you know, ends reasonably

1582
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:59,760
soon, we could get it someday or something.

1583
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:03,440
And it also means Intel has not abandoned GPUs.

1584
02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:08,600
Everything Intel does that shows that they're still making GPUs is encouraging

1585
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:12,680
for me because we must, we must not have a monopoly in this space.

1586
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:16,440
So either 20 or 32 ray tracing units.

1587
02:13:16,840 --> 02:13:20,440
All right. That's pretty cool. Vector engines 162, oh wow.

1588
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:24,760
So the B 70 is like a much, much beefier card.

1589
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:27,800
Oh yeah, it's a it's a thousand dollars higher clocked. She's in US.

1590
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:33,760
She's a she's a big boy. Yeah. PCIe Gen five by 16 for both of them and both of them.

1591
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:44,240
This is pretty cool. Have 256 bit interfaces and 32 gigs of GDDR six memory is pretty nice.

1592
02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:49,160
That is a fat amount of GDDR memory.

1593
02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:55,200
I think for under a thousand dollar GPU. A lot of these are going to end up in potentially dual GPU setups.

1594
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:59,280
It's, it's very clear what Intel is trying to do here.

1595
02:13:59,640 --> 02:14:06,320
Yeah, they are trying to get homelab people running arc, optimizing their AI

1596
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:13,200
crap for arc so that longer term, their data center accelerators are going to

1597
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:18,280
have people familiar with how to use them seems pretty smart.

1598
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:24,560
I am not super on top of this stuff. Someone in chat said, is it GDR six?

1599
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:29,000
And I went to go confirm that it is, but I also think that should be.

1600
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:33,560
It's real. You really just care about the capacity a lot.

1601
02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:37,400
So I'm pretty sure. Okay. Okay. It's two-fold.

1602
02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:40,520
So for the workloads that I suspect people are going to be using this for.

1603
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:44,000
I want to add that caveat before you keep going. It's okay.

1604
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:50,760
So we, we covered this in a fair bit more detail in that video that, that we

1605
02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:54,160
worked on with, with Nick Harris from the lab. Yeah. So what was that?

1606
02:14:54,160 --> 02:14:57,000
That was a H one H one hundred card. I think it was.

1607
02:14:57,400 --> 02:15:04,320
It was an H one hundred. It was, it was an, like, it was an older data center AI accelerator from NVIDIA.

1608
02:15:04,440 --> 02:15:11,600
Yeah. And what we, what we talked about was, okay, like capacity and speed and sort

1609
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:18,480
of the relationship there. So for certain AI workloads, the speed actually matters quite a lot.

1610
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:24,200
Okay. And that's why you have these HBM stacks that are sitting right next to the dye.

1611
02:15:24,240 --> 02:15:27,960
Yeah. Um, and from my, from what I can remember, and this is one of those things

1612
02:15:27,960 --> 02:15:32,640
where I will often go and relearn something so that I can do a video about it.

1613
02:15:33,080 --> 02:15:38,160
And then if I don't touch it for six months, then I'll kind of forget a lot of the details and then I'll have to like go touch up on it again.

1614
02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:41,840
But from what I can remember, uh, a lot of it is down to training.

1615
02:15:42,240 --> 02:15:48,480
You want the speed for training. And then when it comes to, uh, when it comes to inference, when it

1616
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:53,120
comes to actually using the models, the speed of the memory is not quite as

1617
02:15:53,120 --> 02:15:57,320
important, but the capacity of the memory matters because you have to be able

1618
02:15:57,320 --> 02:16:03,080
to fit the model into your working memory or else your speed drops off dramatically.

1619
02:16:03,640 --> 02:16:08,520
So having faster memory might make you a little bit faster for inference, a little

1620
02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:15,320
bit, but not having enough takes you from here to here because all of a sudden

1621
02:16:15,320 --> 02:16:18,840
you're swapping out to storage and that's Boruto.

1622
02:16:19,720 --> 02:16:22,800
So yeah, GDDR six, not going to be the end of the world.

1623
02:16:23,040 --> 02:16:25,960
And the fact that it's on a 256 bit bus is going to help.

1624
02:16:26,080 --> 02:16:29,840
So total bandwidth that Intel quotes is something in the neighborhood of, I think

1625
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:36,160
it was 660 gigabytes a second, 608 gigabytes a second, which is not industry

1626
02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:39,760
leading by any stretch of the imagination, but with this much memory for what

1627
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:44,040
people are trying to do at home, right? Where they're not trying to do this at an industrial scale.

1628
02:16:44,640 --> 02:16:50,000
It's going to be faster or enough for just having that capacity.

1629
02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:56,480
Um, that this could be very appealing for home labbers.

1630
02:16:56,600 --> 02:16:59,600
Yeah, yeah. I want to take us on a weird aside for a second.

1631
02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:02,960
I think it was in the pre-show. We were talking about the expense of live streaming.

1632
02:17:02,960 --> 02:17:06,240
Was that in the pre-show? Uh, no, that wasn't the main show.

1633
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:12,760
I think was it either way. I know I realized I wanted to do an updated count because I saw that, you

1634
02:17:12,760 --> 02:17:16,120
know, on on YouTube weird. Oh, this is an older.

1635
02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:21,240
Oh boy, where'd it go? There on YouTube, we have 8.9 thousand now.

1636
02:17:21,240 --> 02:17:26,440
So we've kind of like cooked a little bit. Wancho takes a little bit to get its viewer viewership up, but I noticed

1637
02:17:26,440 --> 02:17:30,520
something that was wrong the first time I came to the calculator, um, which

1638
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:38,440
was I, I totaled our viewership between YouTube and Twitch. So I got a 10,800, but then I saw, I saw this and I remembered this average

1639
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:43,960
viewer watch duration 50%. Oh, but if I'm looking at the people currently watching, that is not how

1640
02:17:43,960 --> 02:17:47,560
that would work. So if we round it down, cause I know Wancho takes a little bit to

1641
02:17:48,440 --> 02:17:52,280
grow its viewership and we just go to 10,000, we hit pretty close to peak

1642
02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:57,480
after about the first, I'm actually just looking at it right now, about an hour

1643
02:17:57,480 --> 02:18:03,960
in, we're pretty close to peak. Yeah. Um, and if we change this to, so we go down to 10,000, so we shave off a

1644
02:18:03,960 --> 02:18:06,960
decent amount of viewers and let's say a hundred percent, we can also do 90.

1645
02:18:06,960 --> 02:18:10,560
Which one do you want to do? Uh, I wish we could do 75.

1646
02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:16,640
Yeah. Uh, let's do 90. Let's do a worst case scenario because I also think you rounded down on how

1647
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:22,280
many people were watching. So I did. Yeah, I did. Yeah. So we'll round up on by like almost a thousand.

1648
02:18:22,360 --> 02:18:27,520
That's crazy. Please tell me we're not spending that much. Right, right, right, because we're not watching on flow plane.

1649
02:18:27,560 --> 02:18:31,760
We've got, uh, around 10% of that.

1650
02:18:34,880 --> 02:18:35,640
Sorry, it's probably me.

1651
02:18:39,440 --> 02:18:41,960
It's fun times every time we stream Wancho, really?

1652
02:18:42,480 --> 02:18:47,080
Okay. So what Luke is trying to say is head on over to lttstore.com.

1653
02:18:47,840 --> 02:18:51,200
Okay. Oh, sure. And send us a, send us a checkout message.

1654
02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:56,240
Just go ahead and, you know, grab one of our new flexible magnetic cable

1655
02:18:56,240 --> 02:19:02,280
management arches. Well, worm boys. Yep. Uh, or you can pick something up from our tax write-off sale.

1656
02:19:02,600 --> 02:19:04,480
Uh, open box commuter backpack.

1657
02:19:05,720 --> 02:19:09,560
Oh. Uh, boo.

1658
02:19:11,000 --> 02:19:14,360
Oh. How do I get to the U S store? Very bottom.

1659
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:19,160
Yeah, I know. I just wish I could just alter the URL. Uh, okay.

1660
02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:24,320
Well, they're still in the U S store. Well, anyway, uh, whatever.

1661
02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:28,200
If you shop around, find something, send a merch message. Every little bit helps.

1662
02:19:29,240 --> 02:19:32,760
What? Why not? You said merch message. Oh, shoot.

1663
02:19:39,720 --> 02:19:41,800
Check out message. Check out message.

1664
02:19:43,680 --> 02:19:44,040
Okay.

1665
02:19:48,120 --> 02:19:51,560
Uh, what do you want to pick? Should we do? Should we do?

1666
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:54,720
Oh, that hurt. Yeah, those are interesting strategy.

1667
02:19:55,840 --> 02:20:00,240
Well, that way I'll remember rubber band works to maybe, uh, there

1668
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:05,720
might be other ways to do that. I've tried all the other ways, Luke, kind of nine days.

1669
02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:09,640
Let's do the Apple business thing. Apple unveils Apple business.

1670
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:13,720
An all in one platform to completely replace and consolidate their

1671
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:18,720
current offerings. It will unify device management, productivity tools, uh, device

1672
02:20:18,720 --> 02:20:21,640
management and productivity tools within a single interface.

1673
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:25,640
Apple business will feature built in mobile device management or MDM using

1674
02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:29,280
their new blueprint system to let admins reconfigure devices with

1675
02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:36,360
specific apps and security policies. Additionally, it introduces managed Apple accounts with cryptographic

1676
02:20:36,360 --> 02:20:39,040
separation between personal and work data.

1677
02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:45,400
Cool. Uh, apart from IT features, like honestly, as someone who has done IT

1678
02:20:45,400 --> 02:20:49,960
stuff, get your personal stuff off of, off of our things.

1679
02:20:50,120 --> 02:20:55,000
I don't want to see your bank account publicly shared in a password manager.

1680
02:20:55,360 --> 02:21:01,280
I don't want that. I, it's not, I actually specifically want that to not be there cause I

1681
02:21:01,280 --> 02:21:07,080
don't want the responsibility of that being even possible. So just keep it on your own stuff.

1682
02:21:07,520 --> 02:21:14,200
Anyways, it ran over. Uh, apart from IT features, Apple business also adds customer engagement

1683
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:18,440
features such as brand profiles, customizable place cards and Apple maps.

1684
02:21:18,480 --> 02:21:25,320
Oh, neat. Um, and tap to pay branding. Apple also announced for their US and Canadian users later this summer that

1685
02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:30,880
business will be able to businesses, maybe we'll be able to create search

1686
02:21:30,880 --> 02:21:35,320
results, ads for Apple maps and a suggested places interface.

1687
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:38,760
Sure. I don't know. Um, out of all the things to make exclusive ads is a dit.

1688
02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:44,800
I'm, oh yeah, that's a little odd. But anyways, uh, the platform will be freely available starting April 14th

1689
02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:48,800
in over 200 countries. This is incredible.

1690
02:21:49,360 --> 02:21:52,520
Um, this plus the MacBook Neo.

1691
02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:57,160
Bruh, Apple is coming for your neck.

1692
02:21:57,320 --> 02:22:00,720
If you're a huge variety of different companies, if you are an

1693
02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:08,280
educational, if you, if you rely on shifting like huge numbers of books to

1694
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:15,160
educational institutions or in a corporate environment, Apple sees your

1695
02:22:15,160 --> 02:22:21,720
pie and they're like, yes, yes, your pie and your pie and your pie.

1696
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:24,640
I'll have all the pie. I'll just have all of it.

1697
02:22:25,000 --> 02:22:30,360
Um, they're because already you see so many MacBooks in corporate

1698
02:22:30,360 --> 02:22:38,760
and in education, and that was with sort of previous versions of, of, of a mishmash

1699
02:22:38,760 --> 02:22:44,280
of this functionality, bringing it all together in one easier to manage package

1700
02:22:44,280 --> 02:22:49,440
because that that's what it ultimately comes down to is give me reasonable hardware, make it easy for me to manage.

1701
02:22:49,720 --> 02:22:53,880
And I literally won't even call someone else unless it's just to get a

1702
02:22:53,880 --> 02:22:57,800
competitive quote to like, you know, keep you accountable, keep you honest.

1703
02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:05,520
Um, once someone locks in, there's a lot of inertia there, but in spite of the

1704
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:09,600
inertia of, you know, Chromebooks and Windows, I don't think anybody's

1705
02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:11,840
thrilled with those platforms right now.

1706
02:23:12,880 --> 02:23:17,920
And so for Apple to come in and say, Hey, we can take all of your problems and

1707
02:23:17,920 --> 02:23:22,200
we can make them go away. Also the incredible annoyance of managing them.

1708
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:29,080
Oh, it's just free with that Apple magic. We put a little bit of Apple work to spit shine, spit shine that Apple for you.

1709
02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:38,520
Dude, this is like a game changer. And I've talked extensively about this in the past, but whatever the youngins

1710
02:23:38,560 --> 02:23:44,200
grow up using, has a serious impact on what they're going to want to use

1711
02:23:44,200 --> 02:23:48,200
when they get older. It's one of the reasons that the piracy of the Adobe suite was such a game

1712
02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:53,440
changer for Adobe. And why, as far as I can tell, DaVinci Resolve is going to take over in the

1713
02:23:53,480 --> 02:24:00,000
next five to 10 years. Yeah. And not piracy in that case, but just free access to it with hard, with

1714
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:03,720
hardware purchase. Uh, at least I think it's still with hardware purchase.

1715
02:24:03,720 --> 02:24:06,960
Do you still have to buy anything to get DaVinci? I don't think so.

1716
02:24:06,960 --> 02:24:11,000
No, it's just free out, right? Yeah, you can get a pro version.

1717
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:14,200
Right. Okay. But otherwise DaVinci's are just free.

1718
02:24:14,480 --> 02:24:17,240
This guy's are such mad. And it's so good. Such mad lads.

1719
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:20,880
Um, where was I going with this? Right.

1720
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:26,240
So, but unlike a Chromebook where there's a lot of friction around continuing

1721
02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:33,440
to use a Chromebook forever because it just, you know, app compatibility. And it's always, I think it will drive me crazy forever.

1722
02:24:34,760 --> 02:24:41,640
If Google loses this Chromebook thing and I look back at it and I go, you

1723
02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:49,560
guys were Linux, you had an opportunity to embrace the Linux-ness of Chrome OS.

1724
02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:51,480
You decided not to.

1725
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:59,280
Yeah. That will always, that will be like, that will be like a Microsoft phone level.

1726
02:24:59,640 --> 02:25:04,240
Like, like Intel missing the, the investment in, well, I don't know how

1727
02:25:04,240 --> 02:25:07,920
the opening, I think it's going to turn out, but like, I'm going to say, no, I'm going to say Microsoft phone.

1728
02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:14,560
That will be like a Microsoft phone level colossal up to me to look back on and go,

1729
02:25:14,960 --> 02:25:18,560
if this Chrome OS thing doesn't work out, the fact that you guys didn't just

1730
02:25:18,960 --> 02:25:26,440
embrace Linux on it and not try to make it just a browser, I'll never get over it.

1731
02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:28,800
Yeah. What a weird decision.

1732
02:25:29,960 --> 02:25:34,920
Yeah. This is, this is crazy. Hold on. When Bingo Chronified says they have embraced it, it's trivially easy to

1733
02:25:34,920 --> 02:25:41,560
enable the Linux underlay and get stuff like the, you'll see an open office in Chrome OS via Linux, trivially easy, but it should just, they

1734
02:25:41,560 --> 02:25:51,640
should be promoting it is what I'm saying. There's a big difference between allowing it and pushing it and contributing

1735
02:25:51,640 --> 02:25:59,720
to it, like what Valve is doing. Google should have been doing what Valve is doing, like really making Chrome

1736
02:25:59,720 --> 02:26:07,560
OS a Linux distro. The biggest push for Linux in recent history was the Steam Deck and still is

1737
02:26:07,560 --> 02:26:13,600
the Steam Deck. Yeah. Like if you look on ProtonDB, tons of the comments are Steam Deck

1738
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:18,000
based. Yeah. Because there's so freaking many of them out there.

1739
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:24,680
Yeah. All right. Oh, right. We're going to say something about the Apple platform.

1740
02:26:24,680 --> 02:26:28,040
Where are we done? Uh, it probably didn't matter much.

1741
02:26:28,120 --> 02:26:31,080
Um, what? The Apple platform? I think it's really important.

1742
02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:33,600
Oh, thank God. Uh, he doesn't know. He doesn't know.

1743
02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:36,920
macOS is Unix based, which is interesting.

1744
02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:42,320
Um, I think as well, just like another competitor in that space, I think is

1745
02:26:42,320 --> 02:26:49,240
actually really good. Um, I'm very frustrated with all of the current offerings.

1746
02:26:49,960 --> 02:26:54,160
I think they just kind of suck at a conversation recently about our setup

1747
02:26:54,160 --> 02:26:57,800
because we're trying to figure out moving off some of them to save money

1748
02:26:57,800 --> 02:27:05,080
because we're on like just everything, which sucks. Um, and the conversation was something about like basically, I don't know.

1749
02:27:05,280 --> 02:27:11,360
Uh, email just sucks everywhere because yeah, yeah, yeah, we're trying to reduce

1750
02:27:11,360 --> 02:27:17,560
that. So like email just kind of sucks everywhere. And the reason why email sucks everywhere is because the basic functionality

1751
02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:21,640
of email has been fine for a long time and search is bad everywhere.

1752
02:27:21,720 --> 02:27:27,360
Yeah. So it's just like, okay, whatever. And then you get to messaging and it's like, okay, well, the messaging

1753
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:31,200
options are either really bad or too expensive for what they are.

1754
02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:35,600
Dude, I searched for the word patent in my Gmail inbox the other day because,

1755
02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:39,880
um, our wonderful boss asked me to find out if I had ever

1756
02:27:39,920 --> 02:27:44,080
corresponded on something to do with a patent with someone.

1757
02:27:44,480 --> 02:27:49,600
And I searched for it and I was like, why the f**k are these results out of order?

1758
02:27:49,600 --> 02:27:54,680
And it turns out it defaulted to relevancy, which I decide what's relevant.

1759
02:27:54,680 --> 02:27:59,520
I'm like, what are you talking about? I want, so I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.

1760
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:04,120
And all of a sudden they come to something that from very recent. And I said, I realize it's not chronological.

1761
02:28:04,120 --> 02:28:09,800
I'm like, sure, if you want to have like, here's the three or four that I

1762
02:28:09,800 --> 02:28:13,120
think are the most relevant and surface them at the top, yeah, that's fine.

1763
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:17,320
But by the time I'm sorting, by the time I've scrolled infinitely, you know,

1764
02:28:17,360 --> 02:28:22,280
through three pages of results or whatever, obviously you didn't get it.

1765
02:28:22,880 --> 02:28:29,120
Also, give it to me in chronological order. Obviously. If I do a super vague search term, yeah, like flight.

1766
02:28:29,320 --> 02:28:33,160
Yeah. How could I just give me the most recent one?

1767
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:36,840
Oh, it never does. I'll get one from three years ago. It's crazy.

1768
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:39,680
Like, I don't know, flight San Francisco.

1769
02:28:40,280 --> 02:28:43,880
And it'll be like, ah, yes, I do understand that you have a flight to

1770
02:28:43,880 --> 02:28:47,720
San Francisco in three days, but I'm going to give you your ticket from seven

1771
02:28:47,720 --> 02:28:51,440
years ago. Hope you wanted that. It's just like, why is it bro?

1772
02:28:51,560 --> 02:28:55,920
Come on. Um, so like, yeah, basically nobody cares about email because it's just sort

1773
02:28:55,920 --> 02:29:02,400
of all junk. Um, nobody cares that much about chat because it's like, do I care enough about

1774
02:29:02,400 --> 02:29:06,000
how much better Slack is to pay more for it compared to teams?

1775
02:29:06,480 --> 02:29:11,040
I don't know. Maybe developers kind of do, but outside of that, maybe not so much.

1776
02:29:11,320 --> 02:29:14,440
Um, so most of it just kind of gets shrugged off.

1777
02:29:14,440 --> 02:29:18,200
And the biggest problem we've ran into is like, wow, one drive is a fantastic

1778
02:29:18,200 --> 02:29:23,320
piece of and while Google Drive might be kind of neat, Google Workspace

1779
02:29:23,320 --> 02:29:27,200
bundling their AI crap into their subscriptions has made it so expensive.

1780
02:29:27,400 --> 02:29:32,280
Dude, I was trying to, what was I trying to do the other day?

1781
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:35,360
I was, oh, I was trying to write an email.

1782
02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:39,640
Um, hold on. Let me see if I can find this.

1783
02:29:39,680 --> 02:29:43,520
I believe if you, you can get it out now, but there was like a period of time

1784
02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:50,240
where they kind of forced AI junk to be included with their sales. No, it was, it was doing a bunch of like, like kind of like a spell check

1785
02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:53,280
or grammar check, like squiggle under the words in my email.

1786
02:29:53,800 --> 02:29:58,280
And I, in 10 seconds, very aggressive, didn't spend that much time.

1787
02:29:58,360 --> 02:30:02,280
I couldn't figure out how to turn it off. And it kept sort of trying to recommend tone changes to me.

1788
02:30:02,280 --> 02:30:07,400
And I'm like, no, it's an irate email. And it has an irate tone intentionally.

1789
02:30:07,800 --> 02:30:11,040
Um, I was so annoyed.

1790
02:30:11,320 --> 02:30:14,880
And I'd have to, I'd have to go and actually like type an email right now

1791
02:30:14,880 --> 02:30:18,960
to get it to try to do it. Maybe I'll just, I'll find the one I sent last night and I'll put it in.

1792
02:30:18,960 --> 02:30:23,640
But yeah, the biggest hurdle that we're running into is one moving off of a

1793
02:30:23,640 --> 02:30:28,000
chat system that you're currently using onto another one is definitely possible

1794
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:31,840
no matter where you go, but there is a lot of like resetting up group chats

1795
02:30:31,880 --> 02:30:34,920
and resetting up channels and stuff that will take some time.

1796
02:30:34,920 --> 02:30:40,520
So you definitely lose some productivity in the switch. So it needs to be worth the productivity loss to save the money on the thing.

1797
02:30:40,520 --> 02:30:47,520
Okay, sounds good. We can figure that out. Um, but the last one is just drive, um, trying to get out of Google Drive

1798
02:30:47,560 --> 02:30:55,200
to something else, um, is proving a little daunting.

1799
02:30:55,360 --> 02:31:00,000
If we do want to do that, um, should we, should we talk about, should we talk

1800
02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:04,960
about that thing we set up locally, Dan? It's not doing it right now. So I don't, I don't exactly know why, but this is funny.

1801
02:31:04,960 --> 02:31:08,520
Have I told the story about the conversation I had with, um, someone from

1802
02:31:08,520 --> 02:31:13,280
Sony when I was over there recently, where one of the things that, um, I've

1803
02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:18,360
started feeling tempted to do is to typo something on purpose in my email.

1804
02:31:18,360 --> 02:31:20,240
So people know that it was written by a human.

1805
02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:28,080
So I said, I sent her an email. Super nice to meet you. Had a really great time checking out the blank, uh, still under NDA.

1806
02:31:28,440 --> 02:31:33,440
Uh, my only complaint is I can't show and talk about more of it. Looking forward to working together closely going forward.

1807
02:31:33,600 --> 02:31:37,800
Here's a tip yo to prove. I wrote this instead of delegating it to AI.

1808
02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:40,920
So I've officially done it once now.

1809
02:31:42,800 --> 02:31:46,600
That's funny. Uh, try own cloud. We're, we're trying a few different things.

1810
02:31:46,600 --> 02:31:51,200
The, the primary one where we've set up locally right now is next cloud.

1811
02:31:51,360 --> 02:31:55,000
Just to play around with that, see how that goes out to us.

1812
02:31:55,000 --> 02:32:00,280
Like all the time frequently. Okay. Yeah, that is the one. Guess it worked because it was top of mind.

1813
02:32:00,680 --> 02:32:06,080
Um, hey, you know what they say, uh, if you don't get a date the first 500

1814
02:32:06,080 --> 02:32:11,320
times, you should definitely ask again, 3000 more. Yeah, a lot of you know, that's not advice.

1815
02:32:11,320 --> 02:32:16,120
Yeah, don't do that. That's not advice. That's literally harassment, not legal advice.

1816
02:32:16,520 --> 02:32:18,200
Don't do that, but that's harassment.

1817
02:32:20,200 --> 02:32:25,920
So we're, we're looking into that. It's a bastion posted in full plane chat and said, uh, where is it?

1818
02:32:25,920 --> 02:32:31,680
Google drive is really good. It's unfortunate. I think the things that Google drive is really good at are honestly getting worse.

1819
02:32:31,880 --> 02:32:37,120
Um, I think it's search is so abysmal that it's actually genuinely difficult

1820
02:32:37,120 --> 02:32:42,800
to use at this point. Um, yeah, I'm like, why is it the, uh, okay.

1821
02:32:42,800 --> 02:32:46,560
Hold on. I might be getting this wrong cause I know I've had issues sometimes like searching

1822
02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:51,360
for a doc when I'm in Google drive or like searching for a file when I'm in

1823
02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:55,320
Google docs, like they don't seem to be able to decide whether they're just one

1824
02:32:55,320 --> 02:32:59,360
platform or whether they're like separate platforms and I can never quite

1825
02:32:59,360 --> 02:33:03,840
remember the rules of which things work across which other things.

1826
02:33:03,880 --> 02:33:07,840
It's very weird. Um, so I'm not going to get into anything specific right now.

1827
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:12,200
So one brought up protons platform. I honestly didn't consider that one.

1828
02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:16,440
Um, yeah. It's an interesting idea.

1829
02:33:19,360 --> 02:33:22,720
They're improving both the drives, photos, docs, a bunch of stuff since launch.

1830
02:33:22,720 --> 02:33:28,040
Yeah. The primary thing that we need from their like drive is their collaborative

1831
02:33:28,120 --> 02:33:34,600
stuff because, uh, I will never be able to pry Excel even out of the cold dead

1832
02:33:34,600 --> 02:33:38,600
hands of many people at the office. It's still wouldn't be able to get out of their hands.

1833
02:33:38,600 --> 02:33:44,360
So there's going to be desktop act apps required for, from Microsoft, literally

1834
02:33:44,360 --> 02:33:50,480
just for Excel for a decent amount of people. But outside of that, we need highly collaborative documents, both in sheet

1835
02:33:50,480 --> 02:33:54,240
form and document form and form form.

1836
02:33:54,480 --> 02:33:57,440
Oh, Google forms is actually kind of goaded. Yeah.

1837
02:33:57,480 --> 02:34:02,000
We seemed to be in a competition for years about, uh, can we find ways to buy

1838
02:34:02,280 --> 02:34:07,240
Google forms in other ways and then use those instead of using Google forms?

1839
02:34:07,240 --> 02:34:10,520
And I don't know why, but we seem to be mostly done doing that now, which is very

1840
02:34:10,520 --> 02:34:17,240
cool. Sorry, buy them in other ways. Yeah. Just try to find an external company that basically just has Google forms and

1841
02:34:17,240 --> 02:34:20,840
then pay for that and then use it for things internally. We, we did that like a lot.

1842
02:34:21,080 --> 02:34:24,880
There was, there was a lot of that going on. Uh, don't we just use Google forms though?

1843
02:34:25,240 --> 02:34:29,520
Oh, no. What? No, I don't understand what you're talking about right now.

1844
02:34:29,560 --> 02:34:33,200
Uh, does anyone else understand what he's talking about? I know like jot form.

1845
02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:38,240
Someone, someone in chat guessed it. I think jot form was something that we used for a while for like a bunch of

1846
02:34:38,240 --> 02:34:43,240
things internally, but we do use Google forms for a lot. Like we had some Q and a stuff from the last all hands.

1847
02:34:43,240 --> 02:34:49,320
And we also pay for jot form. And we also pay for, I think one or two other things that are basically

1848
02:34:49,320 --> 02:34:52,760
just Google forms. Um, why? Well, not as much anymore.

1849
02:34:52,760 --> 02:34:57,560
Oh, I thought you were saying this was a strategy we were pursuing. I was making a joke about how it seemed like it was.

1850
02:34:58,160 --> 02:35:02,560
Yeah. Yeah. Well, man, there's been, there's been a lot of stuff like that where someone

1851
02:35:02,560 --> 02:35:07,640
has like a particular snowflake tool that they want to use. And it's like, okay, bro, but couldn't you just do this in a spreadsheet?

1852
02:35:08,040 --> 02:35:13,000
Yeah. Um, I mean, I was always just like, can we just, is there, can we just do this in

1853
02:35:13,000 --> 02:35:17,080
a spreadsheet with some macros? It turns out Google sheets is like really powerful.

1854
02:35:17,280 --> 02:35:21,600
No, it's not Excel. Don't shoot me, but it is very powerful.

1855
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:29,800
Yeah. It's funny too. If you look at the like Microsoft office, um, let me try to find this.

1856
02:35:30,200 --> 02:35:33,280
I was poking around Microsoft office subscriptions the other day and it's,

1857
02:35:33,320 --> 02:35:39,000
it's really kind of funky. Um, you can just buy Excel, like non-subscription.

1858
02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:45,000
Really? It's like kind of hard to find it. Um, buy Excel.

1859
02:35:45,480 --> 02:35:48,560
That's actually pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah.

1860
02:35:48,560 --> 02:35:52,360
Here we go. Blink. 170 bucks. Oh, well, I would do that.

1861
02:35:52,720 --> 02:35:56,560
You can just buy it for one PC or Mac. Turn data into useful insights.

1862
02:35:56,680 --> 02:36:01,320
Can you imagine if it was your job to write the marketing blurb for Microsoft Excel?

1863
02:36:01,480 --> 02:36:06,160
Hold on. What else they got here? Spread, share your spreadsheet with others and edit together in real time.

1864
02:36:06,160 --> 02:36:11,000
Asterisk files must be shared from one drive. Compatible with Windows 11, Windows 10 or macOS.

1865
02:36:11,000 --> 02:36:12,760
Wow. Thanks Microsoft.

1866
02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:17,320
Requirements. Additional system requirements. Internet access.

1867
02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:19,440
Microsoft account. Oh, you f**kers.

1868
02:36:22,640 --> 02:36:25,680
But yeah, you can just buy Excel, which I thought was pretty interesting.

1869
02:36:25,680 --> 02:36:30,280
Actually, I didn't realize you could actually just do that. Um, so that was, that was fascinating.

1870
02:36:30,560 --> 02:36:34,040
They're making the support period for standalone apps super short.

1871
02:36:34,080 --> 02:36:37,720
Right. What it used to be to encourage Microsoft 365 cells. Oh, that makes sense.

1872
02:36:37,720 --> 02:36:43,760
That's from Pankrats. Uh, but even, even if you look at their subscriptions, I was kind of poking into

1873
02:36:43,800 --> 02:36:50,720
this, so we need, so yeah, you have plans with teams and your nice cheap one is

1874
02:36:50,720 --> 02:36:56,680
eight bucks, but this one, you can tell what they, you can tell they know about

1875
02:36:56,680 --> 02:37:00,000
Excel, that was the most interesting thing for me to discover, because this,

1876
02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:04,000
the cheap one, the eight dollars and ten cents one only includes the web and

1877
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:09,680
mobile versions of Excel. So you can't get the desktop version and I was, I was talking to, I think it was

1878
02:37:09,680 --> 02:37:19,480
Terran, I was talking to Terran about how I think it's interesting that through subscription models, they self incentivize, not making their web versions good.

1879
02:37:21,360 --> 02:37:25,680
Which I find so funny. I know you love perverse incentives.

1880
02:37:25,680 --> 02:37:29,120
Like it's something you find like a fascinating, it is very fast to me, I

1881
02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:34,440
guess, um, but like, yeah, because the jump to get the desktop version is

1882
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:39,800
double huge. It's literally, and I noticed that if you go for, I think it's plans without

1883
02:37:39,800 --> 02:37:43,200
teams, I'm going to have to find it. So we don't necessarily have to share yet.

1884
02:37:43,240 --> 02:37:51,800
Oh, no, here it is. Just Microsoft 365 apps for business, which includes the desktop versions is

1885
02:37:51,800 --> 02:37:52,960
more expensive.

1886
02:37:57,120 --> 02:38:01,880
So you know, you know that they know internally that people really just need

1887
02:38:01,880 --> 02:38:04,960
desktop Excel, because it's so much better than everything else.

1888
02:38:05,200 --> 02:38:11,600
And they, there must have it. So I really think there's a pretty strong incentive to not make the web

1889
02:38:11,600 --> 02:38:16,160
version good, because the web version is right next to that with more other

1890
02:38:16,160 --> 02:38:18,960
features at like half the price.

1891
02:38:19,560 --> 02:38:23,080
Six bucks includes web of Excel and everything else.

1892
02:38:23,080 --> 02:38:27,920
Microsoft is like the, the Facebook marketplace equivalent of I know what I

1893
02:38:27,920 --> 02:38:33,840
got, but only with Microsoft Excel, everything else is just like, how can

1894
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:39,360
we try to make this Excel bouquet look compel more compelling than the other

1895
02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:45,560
Excel bouquet? Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, that was wild to me because I'm basically

1896
02:38:45,560 --> 02:38:49,800
trying to figure it like, okay, there's a lot of like, what happens if we go

1897
02:38:49,800 --> 02:38:53,720
down X or Y path? It's like, do we stick with just Microsoft? Do we stick with just Google?

1898
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:57,640
Do we go with some, some hybrid that's different than the hybrid we have now?

1899
02:38:57,720 --> 02:39:01,280
Do we use Apple numbers? Do we do something weird like that?

1900
02:39:01,520 --> 02:39:06,800
And one of the static facts is that we must have Excel for certain people.

1901
02:39:06,840 --> 02:39:11,640
Yeah. It's not a crazy amount of the company, but it is. There are some people that must be counting people, some of the people who

1902
02:39:11,640 --> 02:39:15,920
work in like logistics and planning and like, they just need more powerful sheets.

1903
02:39:16,000 --> 02:39:22,680
Yeah. So sounds good. And it just turns out, yeah, I mean, it might just be 1170 a month to get them

1904
02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:26,360
word Excel PowerPoint, that look and they will open one of those.

1905
02:39:27,360 --> 02:39:31,280
They might accidentally open word.

1906
02:39:31,440 --> 02:39:36,200
Maybe. Yeah. Or PowerPoint. Imagine using PowerPoint these days.

1907
02:39:36,200 --> 02:39:39,440
I should really just use Google Slides. Yeah.

1908
02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:45,360
It's actually just easier. Yeah. To be clear, I'm not saying it's not better slides is better, but I'm

1909
02:39:45,360 --> 02:39:52,080
saying for how good a slide needs to be for 98% of people who need to make slides

1910
02:39:52,320 --> 02:39:55,840
where no one's really going to look at them, Google Slides is fine.

1911
02:39:57,040 --> 02:40:00,120
Yeah. Cephalus says, I use PowerPoint at work all the time.

1912
02:40:00,120 --> 02:40:03,560
It's fine. It's fine. It's totally fine. We're not saying it's bad.

1913
02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:08,400
Yeah. We're just saying that for how closely anybody's going to look at a PowerPoint slide.

1914
02:40:09,160 --> 02:40:12,360
Yeah. Okay.

1915
02:40:12,600 --> 02:40:18,760
Do you want to move on? Yeah. Crimson Desert finally gets support and soon optimization for Intel GPUs after

1916
02:40:18,760 --> 02:40:21,800
initially locking out ARC cards at launch.

1917
02:40:22,040 --> 02:40:25,160
This was shocking to see how this played out in public.

1918
02:40:25,280 --> 02:40:31,840
Yes. I don't normally see Intel just like publicly put someone on blast like that.

1919
02:40:31,840 --> 02:40:35,520
They really did. And I honestly, I'm here for it. I respect it.

1920
02:40:35,840 --> 02:40:40,560
I'm here for it. Yep. They're acting hungry, which is what I like about Intel's ARC guys.

1921
02:40:40,560 --> 02:40:44,560
Yeah. Like they're acting, they're acting hungry. They're acting scrappy.

1922
02:40:44,800 --> 02:40:47,640
Do we have the original quote from them somewhere in here?

1923
02:40:48,680 --> 02:40:54,840
Yeah. It's right here. Over the past several years, we've reached out to Pearl Abyss many times to

1924
02:40:54,840 --> 02:40:59,120
help test, validate and optimize support for Intel graphics, providing early

1925
02:40:59,120 --> 02:41:04,280
hardware, drivers and engineering resources across multiple generations of Intel GPUs.

1926
02:41:04,640 --> 02:41:11,120
That is an absolute mic drop of a truth bomb after Pearl Abyss was basically

1927
02:41:11,120 --> 02:41:15,360
like, no, we can't. Oh, no, we can't. Yeah. You know, look into return.

1928
02:41:15,520 --> 02:41:20,240
Can you imagine that you put all the support on the table and someone literally

1929
02:41:20,240 --> 02:41:23,840
says, if you have this product, look into the return policy for our game,

1930
02:41:23,840 --> 02:41:28,040
because we are just not interested. That sucks so much.

1931
02:41:28,040 --> 02:41:32,400
That sucks so much. But I am happy that they seem to have pivoted since then.

1932
02:41:32,400 --> 02:41:34,800
Yeah. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out.

1933
02:41:35,720 --> 02:41:41,200
Okay. Crimson Desert devs, shout out Intel team for just burying the hatchet and getting

1934
02:41:41,200 --> 02:41:48,760
things done for the sake of gamers. Um, David Goatier, who prepared this topic, one of our writers says, it's worth

1935
02:41:48,760 --> 02:41:53,160
noting Intel is currently approaching 1% market share, which sounds really small until

1936
02:41:53,160 --> 02:41:57,720
you consider that we think of AMD as like, you know, the, the other player, you

1937
02:41:57,720 --> 02:42:02,640
know, and AMD is at like approximately 7% according to the numbers that he's got,

1938
02:42:02,640 --> 02:42:09,720
which I think I thought it was actually lower than I was going to say, wherever these numbers are from, uh, are painting a better picture than was recently in my

1939
02:42:09,720 --> 02:42:13,240
head. So hopefully those numbers are accurate. I thought NVIDIA was closer to 95 right now.

1940
02:42:13,240 --> 02:42:16,280
I thought they were two, but hopefully we're wrong and those numbers are right.

1941
02:42:16,640 --> 02:42:20,000
Yeah. That would be awesome. All right. What else we got?

1942
02:42:20,000 --> 02:42:24,360
But yeah, I, I, I'm going to say again, it would be a sick, uh, you know, 180

1943
02:42:24,360 --> 02:42:28,480
maneuver if, if Intel was able to get it nicely optimized and then bundle it with

1944
02:42:28,480 --> 02:42:31,920
their GPUs. I think that'd be awesome. One another good news WAN Show item.

1945
02:42:31,960 --> 02:42:37,640
Yes. Uh, just a reminder, guys, we are gearing up for good news WAN Show month next

1946
02:42:37,640 --> 02:42:40,880
month, April is going to be all good news WAN shows.

1947
02:42:40,880 --> 02:42:45,640
If it's not good news or can't at least be interpreted in a positive way, uh,

1948
02:42:45,720 --> 02:42:48,400
maybe we'll have a car vote for one bad news topic.

1949
02:42:49,000 --> 02:42:52,320
That's it. Maybe it's going to have to be important.

1950
02:42:52,400 --> 02:42:55,440
Very important, critical. Yeah. Critically important.

1951
02:42:55,480 --> 02:42:58,640
Yeah. Uh, so good news WAN Show is coming next month.

1952
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:05,400
We're very excited for it. Also some other WAN Show news is we are going to be starting the WAN Show

1953
02:43:05,400 --> 02:43:13,080
transition quite soon. We're moving from the LTT channel to the LMG clips channel, which is soon to be

1954
02:43:13,080 --> 02:43:18,240
rebranded as the WAN Show that is going to start on April 3rd, 2026.

1955
02:43:18,480 --> 02:43:23,320
And for some period of time, it will stream to both channels simultaneously.

1956
02:43:23,680 --> 02:43:29,680
Uh, that soft transition is going to continue for some number of months.

1957
02:43:29,960 --> 02:43:34,480
And in the weeks leading up to the full final transition over to the WAN Show

1958
02:43:34,480 --> 02:43:38,000
channel, currently the LMG clips channel, we will be sure to make multiple

1959
02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:41,560
announcements so nobody gets lost trying to find the show.

1960
02:43:42,640 --> 02:43:50,480
I had a fun idea. Because you know how people can be resistant to, you know, change, you know,

1961
02:43:50,480 --> 02:43:54,880
how they can be, and, you know, there, there can be sort of, there's, there's a

1962
02:43:54,880 --> 02:43:59,680
friction to, you know, transition, you know, platform transition, even if it's

1963
02:43:59,720 --> 02:44:00,760
within the same platform.

1964
02:44:03,480 --> 02:44:08,760
What do you think of the idea of simultaneously streaming on both platforms

1965
02:44:09,480 --> 02:44:12,680
for a really long time? Really long time.

1966
02:44:13,160 --> 02:44:16,840
I'm talking like six months, but hear me out.

1967
02:44:17,560 --> 02:44:23,600
Every week, the YouTube stream gets reduced by like 50 kilobit per second.

1968
02:44:31,440 --> 02:44:35,680
There'd have to be, there'd have to be YouTube stream. I meant the line of tech channel stream.

1969
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:40,400
I knew it. Yeah. So, so the LMG clips stream on YouTube would be full, full bit rate.

1970
02:44:41,400 --> 02:44:48,040
Uh, I think we'd have to have something explaining it. So, so, well, no, because the community will self police at that point, it will

1971
02:44:48,040 --> 02:44:52,240
make people go, Hey, what's going on? And then it will make people discuss it.

1972
02:44:52,800 --> 02:44:57,880
And then they'll go, Oh, okay. And then they can transition over to the other one.

1973
02:44:59,360 --> 02:45:02,280
Interesting. I wonder if I can lower the frame rate as well.

1974
02:45:02,560 --> 02:45:09,720
Uh, I'd say that would be towards the very end. Like where we start, we make it like 10 FPS, one, one FPS.

1975
02:45:09,720 --> 02:45:14,320
The WAN Show would be really funny. Yeah. And so, and so the whole, it might be too entertaining.

1976
02:45:14,400 --> 02:45:19,520
The whole conversation of it is just going to be, what the WTF is going on here?

1977
02:45:19,520 --> 02:45:24,480
Can't these guys run a live stream? And they'll be like, dude, they've been talking about this for six months.

1978
02:45:24,560 --> 02:45:30,280
Go watch it over here. Problem solved. And so we just, we make it like, we make it like a meme.

1979
02:45:30,480 --> 02:45:33,640
And then it can even be, you know, you can, you'll even have people that you know

1980
02:45:33,640 --> 02:45:37,560
are going to engage with this, like very stubbornly, like, I'm going to hold out

1981
02:45:37,560 --> 02:45:41,040
until the end. I will literally refuse until the final day.

1982
02:45:41,080 --> 02:45:46,640
I will be that last person playing Halo on Xbox 360. I will watch it 10 kilobits per second, you know, or whatever.

1983
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:52,960
Like I think, I think that something like this would be a really good way to really

1984
02:45:52,960 --> 02:45:56,480
ease the transition. One oddly colored pixel.

1985
02:45:57,480 --> 02:46:00,200
The only thing coming through. Deep fried audio.

1986
02:46:00,680 --> 02:46:05,800
Yeah. Yeah, we could have, we could, we could go until we actually resemble, um,

1987
02:46:06,800 --> 02:46:12,000
someone pointed out the pixelated Linus and Luke. Hold on. I'm trying to find the old glitchy ones.

1988
02:46:12,040 --> 02:46:15,480
Oh, actually, I didn't mean that. I meant the, like in the intro.

1989
02:46:15,680 --> 02:46:20,240
Oh, I thought you meant the, like the ancient wanshows that are all corrupted on

1990
02:46:20,240 --> 02:46:24,440
YouTube? Oh, well, okay. Well, that's, hold on.

1991
02:46:24,680 --> 02:46:30,640
Huh? Wait, where are they? Yeah, I know these guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until we actually look more like these guys than like these guys.

1992
02:46:31,320 --> 02:46:34,120
You should just AI overlay us, turn us into pixel bros.

1993
02:46:34,360 --> 02:46:37,880
Someone pointed out, apparently Doug, Doug has a video on how people will be

1994
02:46:37,880 --> 02:46:41,000
stubborn in these situations or something. And like, yeah, absolutely.

1995
02:46:41,000 --> 02:46:44,760
There's a ton of people that won't, I think it's going to be a combination of people are going to be stubborn.

1996
02:46:44,760 --> 02:46:49,760
And also when we stop streaming on LTT, I think how the algorithm works in the

1997
02:46:49,760 --> 02:46:53,200
like viewers, like you watch this thing, therefore I will recommend it way.

1998
02:46:53,400 --> 02:47:00,920
I think a bunch of people won't even realize they're on a different channel. And, and with the slow transition, we'll also give the algorithm a lot of time

1999
02:47:00,920 --> 02:47:04,160
to learn who these overlapping audiences are. Yeah.

2000
02:47:04,320 --> 02:47:09,440
Um, so I'm, I'm, I kind of, because I don't want to mess with the audio.

2001
02:47:09,800 --> 02:47:12,480
I think we should leave the audio alone. I think that's fair.

2002
02:47:12,840 --> 02:47:19,320
But over time, we just degrade the video experience until finally we're down to

2003
02:47:19,320 --> 02:47:25,520
like, yeah, a couple of pixels kind of barely, barely even able to make out what

2004
02:47:25,520 --> 02:47:30,160
you're looking at. And we go, Hey guys, you may have noticed over the last few months that the

2005
02:47:30,160 --> 02:47:34,040
video quality on you, on the LTT channel has been a little on the low side.

2006
02:47:34,320 --> 02:47:38,040
This is the last WAN Show here. We're moving over to the new WAN Show channel.

2007
02:47:38,320 --> 02:47:42,960
And this is actually really important because the WAN Show is now officially

2008
02:47:43,320 --> 02:47:46,360
uh, co-owned by me and Luke 50%.

2009
02:47:46,760 --> 02:47:53,240
Um, and we have to have it on a separate channel, intellectual property, corporate

2010
02:47:53,240 --> 02:47:58,880
ownership, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. For the full plane people, I believe the plan right now is that it's,

2011
02:47:59,240 --> 02:48:05,600
it'll just be on the LMG channels. Yeah, I think, I do think we wanted to talk to Sammy and get it split out into

2012
02:48:05,600 --> 02:48:09,120
its own sub channel, but that does not mean it would be a new subscription.

2013
02:48:09,120 --> 02:48:11,840
That would literally actually just, we should just do that anyways.

2014
02:48:12,120 --> 02:48:15,680
Uh, cause it's for organizational reasons. So it just looks like this.

2015
02:48:16,040 --> 02:48:20,640
So on the side, you've got line of tech tips and then you've got all your various

2016
02:48:20,680 --> 02:48:25,680
sub channels. Uh, so we would just add a WAN Show one and then we can keep it kind of simple that

2017
02:48:25,680 --> 02:48:33,880
way. Yeah, speaking of Floatplane, Sammy has some Floatplane announcements that he wants us to talk about the Korean tech mall video was

2018
02:48:33,880 --> 02:48:41,240
released very early on Floatplane. If you don't want to wait till Monday to see that it is available right now.

2019
02:48:42,080 --> 02:48:47,240
Um, and this is, this is really how I felt when I had to go shopping.

2020
02:48:47,560 --> 02:48:54,000
Can I find what I forgot in Korea's largest tech mall? If you guys are regular WAN Show viewers, you'll know that I streamed from

2021
02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:59,160
South Korea last, last week, two weeks ago, times a blur.

2022
02:48:59,200 --> 02:49:05,920
I don't know, two weeks ago, two weeks ago. And not last week, at least I talked about how I forgot my camera and forgot my

2023
02:49:05,920 --> 02:49:11,280
microphone and forgot any means of setting it up in any ergonomic way.

2024
02:49:11,560 --> 02:49:16,160
So I had to go shopping even though I was actually on vacation and I wasn't planning

2025
02:49:16,160 --> 02:49:21,120
to make any videos. And if I'm going to go to a tech mall in a country that I've never made a

2026
02:49:21,120 --> 02:49:26,840
tech mall video in before, then I guess I might as well point a selfie camera at

2027
02:49:26,840 --> 02:49:29,840
myself. So it looks like, well, it looks like people are actually liking this video.

2028
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:35,160
Wasn't it, wasn't it a WAN's idea too? Yeah, yeah. She was like, well, like you might as well just make a video because you're

2029
02:49:35,160 --> 02:49:41,320
going to go shopping anyway. Um, it had a really different vibe from a lot of our content because I shot the

2030
02:49:41,320 --> 02:49:46,280
whole thing myself, just me and an iPhone and a decent mic.

2031
02:49:46,280 --> 02:49:50,960
Well, I didn't have a camera operator. I wasn't, I'm, I'm, I'm realizing like literally this format of you

2032
02:49:51,000 --> 02:49:56,240
self-filming only really shows up sometimes in like maybe a scrapyard wars or

2033
02:49:56,240 --> 02:49:59,920
something like that. Yeah. It's, it's like, this is almost weird to see.

2034
02:50:00,120 --> 02:50:03,960
Yeah, I know, right? Like this would usually be like some video you would just DM me.

2035
02:50:04,880 --> 02:50:10,560
Like it's not, it's not really like, yeah, not a super common Linus angle on, on, on

2036
02:50:10,560 --> 02:50:16,440
the public video. It's a, it's a really, uh, it's, it's kind of a fun video because I, I end up

2037
02:50:16,440 --> 02:50:20,080
finding a lot of like really weird stuff. I'm excited for this one.

2038
02:50:20,080 --> 02:50:23,840
Like there's parts of this place that seem almost abandoned.

2039
02:50:24,680 --> 02:50:30,680
Um, like the amount of just random old systems and e-waste and like, like, oh,

2040
02:50:30,680 --> 02:50:36,080
there's a lot of e-waste and just vast empty hallways with just like garbage in

2041
02:50:36,080 --> 02:50:39,160
them and stuff. It's a, it's, it's kind of a weird video.

2042
02:50:39,240 --> 02:50:42,080
Interesting. Yeah. And it's, it's kind of a weird place.

2043
02:50:42,680 --> 02:50:48,360
Um, anyway, on top of that, I have more videos to release for you guys.

2044
02:50:48,840 --> 02:50:53,200
Wow. Look at that. Here's a second Dank Pods video.

2045
02:50:53,400 --> 02:50:56,240
Second collab with Dank Pods. Boom. Go on public.

2046
02:50:56,400 --> 02:51:03,760
His system got broken on his way to Whaleland because Wade apparently has

2047
02:51:03,760 --> 02:51:09,200
never seen the classic Linus Tech Tips episode, how to pack your PC.

2048
02:51:12,960 --> 02:51:16,400
What is this? What, who's this guy? Who's this guy?

2049
02:51:16,880 --> 02:51:20,800
How to pack your PC? 40. There it is.

2050
02:51:21,400 --> 02:51:24,640
Okay. Well, maybe we should have had a less click baity title.

2051
02:51:24,720 --> 02:51:28,280
How to not smash your PC. Gaming rig packing and moving guides.

2052
02:51:28,280 --> 02:51:32,000
So he should have watched that because it had a lot of tech tips that he could have

2053
02:51:32,000 --> 02:51:39,400
used his computer got all bashed up. It was making rattling noises when we, when I shook it to start the video.

2054
02:51:39,600 --> 02:51:44,160
Um, so I, I helped him fix it and then, and then my Linux curse struck.

2055
02:51:45,080 --> 02:51:50,640
So I fixed his computer in a hardware fashion and then broke it in the software

2056
02:51:50,720 --> 02:51:54,760
by just being there. I heard about that. I didn't do anything.

2057
02:51:55,560 --> 02:52:00,440
I had so many witnesses. Adam witnessed it. One of our new camera guys witnessed it.

2058
02:52:00,480 --> 02:52:03,560
Wade witnessed it. They saw me. I did nothing.

2059
02:52:03,680 --> 02:52:08,680
I broke his bass light and I'm sorry, but I didn't do anything.

2060
02:52:09,200 --> 02:52:13,920
I was just present. Yeah. Anyway, that's a, that's a pretty fun video.

2061
02:52:13,920 --> 02:52:17,360
It's a pretty good one. Uh, we also have extras from that video.

2062
02:52:17,400 --> 02:52:24,040
Um, finally we made a, an alternatives to discord video, giving you guys, uh, some,

2063
02:52:24,080 --> 02:52:29,120
some ideas for other software that you can use now that they've got their, um,

2064
02:52:29,560 --> 02:52:32,520
their, their ID stuff that they're working on.

2065
02:52:32,720 --> 02:52:38,080
I'm going to go ahead and make that live now as well. Lots of, lots of early access right now on Floatplane.

2066
02:52:38,080 --> 02:52:42,720
These all obviously come to YouTube. Oh, that's early access too. At some point we're a little late on that.

2067
02:52:43,400 --> 02:52:47,440
Yeah, but it's a, it's a good video actually. I watched it today. Cool. Yeah, it's, it's solid.

2068
02:52:47,520 --> 02:52:50,440
I'm, I'm actually really, it was one that was done when I wasn't here.

2069
02:52:50,640 --> 02:52:56,560
What? No, I just, uh, Nick, you're from the lab pointed out the other day that he, he

2070
02:52:56,560 --> 02:53:06,800
really likes Wendell's thumbnails and I just, oh man, there was a, there was

2071
02:53:06,800 --> 02:53:10,080
another one recently, um, this one.

2072
02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:26,280
That's what your, that's what your thumbnails look like when you actually

2073
02:53:26,280 --> 02:53:30,480
don't give any f***s how your video performs and you are just doing it for

2074
02:53:30,480 --> 02:53:33,200
the lulls just for the love of the game, man.

2075
02:53:33,520 --> 02:53:38,040
I love it. I love it. I respect it so much.

2076
02:53:39,080 --> 02:53:44,000
It's so, so based. What a guy. Just cute Wendell.

2077
02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:48,480
Oh man. All right.

2078
02:53:49,320 --> 02:53:54,280
Thank you for that. Uh, I can't tell what's going on right now.

2079
02:53:54,280 --> 02:53:58,240
Did I release everything that I was supposed to release? I think so.

2080
02:53:58,560 --> 02:54:02,920
I have the Wade video, the, sorry. I'm like doing actual work right now.

2081
02:54:02,920 --> 02:54:07,120
So I'm confused. Korean tech mall video. I released that one, the extras and the discord.

2082
02:54:07,680 --> 02:54:10,920
Did I get them all? Yes. Okay. I got them all. I think I'm good. I think so.

2083
02:54:11,080 --> 02:54:17,440
Awesome. So three early access videos now available at LMG.GG slash F.P.

2084
02:54:17,480 --> 02:54:24,160
WAN. Oh, do we have our own vanity? You're all I guess, I guess this is part of like making sure that you

2085
02:54:24,160 --> 02:54:27,680
get your commissions. It's just 50% only show.

2086
02:54:27,680 --> 02:54:33,120
Yeah. No, that's totally true. It's mostly only, only relevant if something fundamentally changes.

2087
02:54:33,320 --> 02:54:37,800
Yeah. But we do have to lay the groundwork now. It's really important to do it now.

2088
02:54:37,920 --> 02:54:45,800
Yeah. All right. You know what else is really important to do now is talk about how the

2089
02:54:45,800 --> 02:54:51,800
Supreme court in the US has ruled that ISPs, internet service providers are

2090
02:54:52,040 --> 02:54:55,720
not liable for user piracy on their networks.

2091
02:54:56,000 --> 02:55:00,520
A lawsuit between record labels and US ISP Cox communications over an

2092
02:55:00,520 --> 02:55:06,320
alleged failure to deter repeat piracy received a Supreme court ruling in

2093
02:55:07,160 --> 02:55:11,560
Cox's favor. I personally am also in favor of Cox.

2094
02:55:14,800 --> 02:55:19,200
Go Cox. They're a really, really big company.

2095
02:55:19,960 --> 02:55:26,320
Um, okay. Maybe. Well, in this case, in this specific case, uh, I remember actually, I

2096
02:55:26,320 --> 02:55:31,240
actually remember talking about this on land show like half a decade ago.

2097
02:55:31,640 --> 02:55:34,720
Like this has been, this has been gumming up the works for a long time. Oh, here it is.

2098
02:55:34,720 --> 02:55:40,840
Right in the notes. The case began in 2018 when record labels led by Sony and Warner said

2099
02:55:40,840 --> 02:55:46,160
that Cox received tens of thousands of infringement notices, identifying

2100
02:55:46,160 --> 02:55:51,240
repeat violators, but then failed to meaningfully suspend or terminate those

2101
02:55:51,240 --> 02:55:58,600
accounts, which is weird. Cause usually they usually they send out just such a surge of Cox argued that

2102
02:55:58,600 --> 02:56:02,920
previous rulings against it would force ISPs to act as copyright police, which

2103
02:56:03,120 --> 02:56:09,000
actually kind of a fair point. A 2019 jury in Virginia had found Cox liable and awarded a billion

2104
02:56:09,040 --> 02:56:14,360
dollars in damages, a billion dollars in damages to my Cox, not to my Cox.

2105
02:56:14,600 --> 02:56:21,040
No, I won't stand for it. The fourth circuit court of appeals threw out the damages and part of the

2106
02:56:21,040 --> 02:56:23,560
liability and ordered a new trial to determine damages.

2107
02:56:24,120 --> 02:56:27,320
Cox then asked the Supreme court to intervene.

2108
02:56:27,960 --> 02:56:32,520
Um, yeah, it's hard to really be on the side of big ISPs.

2109
02:56:32,560 --> 02:56:38,040
I'm also wondering if this could be a bad thing. Cause would this, could this shift attention to users?

2110
02:56:38,640 --> 02:56:46,560
Possibly. But then if the ISPs are not liable, then you can guarantee that they're

2111
02:56:46,560 --> 02:56:51,640
not going to like do the work care and cooperate anymore than they like

2112
02:56:51,640 --> 02:56:55,480
absolutely have to, because at the end of the day, you don't want to be the ISP

2113
02:56:55,840 --> 02:57:01,360
that customers start talking about how you get people like sued for piracy.

2114
02:57:01,360 --> 02:57:06,400
And the whole going after end users thing proved to be so unpopular back in

2115
02:57:06,400 --> 02:57:10,280
the early 2000s that the record labels gave up.

2116
02:57:10,520 --> 02:57:17,520
Yeah. Yeah. Like there, there are, yeah, there are artists who even still today wear that,

2117
02:57:17,680 --> 02:57:24,240
that cone of shame for, for going after individuals downloading their songs.

2118
02:57:24,240 --> 02:57:27,680
Like I just, I don't, I don't see it happening.

2119
02:57:27,760 --> 02:57:33,240
Then again, hey, the world keeps finding new ways to be even more dystopian.

2120
02:57:33,240 --> 02:57:40,720
So no guarantees, but this does seem like overall for user pie, excuse me,

2121
02:57:40,920 --> 02:57:44,240
privacy, um, a plus.

2122
02:57:44,960 --> 02:57:49,440
Uh, and if you happen to be a pirate, then it also seems like a plus for that as well.

2123
02:57:50,560 --> 02:57:55,640
Here's a downer, Qualcomm shut the door on Snapdragon X DSP headers, open

2124
02:57:55,640 --> 02:57:59,600
sourcing and Linux support hopes seem to be fading.

2125
02:57:59,960 --> 02:58:03,440
Qualcomm has closed a GitHub issue, requesting open source DSP headers for

2126
02:58:03,440 --> 02:58:07,520
Snapdragon X chips with a blunt, no plans for that as of now.

2127
02:58:08,000 --> 02:58:11,920
Linux can still boot on Snapdragon X laptops, but without full DSP headers,

2128
02:58:12,040 --> 02:58:16,240
full upstream support for things like audio sensors and NPU offloading remain

2129
02:58:16,280 --> 02:58:24,200
out of reach. This is, uh, interesting move, not in with the current vibe, bold move.

2130
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:29,440
Yeah. This may help explain why Tuxedo canceled its Snapdragon X one elite Linux laptop

2131
02:58:29,440 --> 02:58:33,960
after 18 months of development and canonical still relies on patched packages

2132
02:58:33,960 --> 02:58:36,800
and a Qualcomm specific work in progress kernel.

2133
02:58:36,960 --> 02:58:41,120
I also find it interesting because at their summit that they had, which myself

2134
02:58:41,120 --> 02:58:48,360
and Nick and Lucas attended, I would genuinely say the most prevalent topic

2135
02:58:48,400 --> 02:58:52,320
of question that was at like the panel and when we're walking around talking

2136
02:58:52,320 --> 02:58:58,000
to people and stuff was based around Linux. There was a lot of people in the audience that were very Linux

2137
02:58:58,000 --> 02:59:01,800
build, I think probably, and I think Qualcomm recognized this a higher

2138
02:59:01,800 --> 02:59:09,800
percentage than probably users, to be honest. Well, yeah, because when you're a brand new hardware with, you know, brand new,

2139
02:59:10,000 --> 02:59:14,440
wait, let's, let's face it, especially in the earlier days of Windows on ARM.

2140
02:59:15,320 --> 02:59:20,480
It was very much a very, it was a really similar set of trade offs as running on

2141
02:59:20,480 --> 02:59:26,000
Linux, some of your software wouldn't work. You'd have to be willing to deal with like kind of hacky work around.

2142
02:59:26,080 --> 02:59:29,480
There were benefits to battery life. Game changing at the time.

2143
02:59:29,480 --> 02:59:34,720
That was before Intel had some really competitive mobile offerings in terms

2144
02:59:34,720 --> 02:59:42,800
of battery life and AMD too, for that matter. But so it's, so it seems to me that it kind of makes sense that you'd have

2145
02:59:42,800 --> 02:59:47,480
a kind of similar user archetype, someone who is willing to put up with

2146
02:59:47,480 --> 02:59:54,040
some pain in order to try something new and, or get some benefit that is

2147
02:59:54,040 --> 02:59:58,520
very meaningful to them and they publicly promised continued Linux

2148
02:59:58,520 --> 03:00:01,000
upstreaming work back in 2024.

2149
03:00:01,840 --> 03:00:07,000
And so I'm looking at this going like, guys, you're already niche.

2150
03:00:07,560 --> 03:00:10,840
You already seem to be having a hard time making inroads.

2151
03:00:11,560 --> 03:00:17,360
And I understand why the temptation would be to see that fact that your volumes

2152
03:00:17,360 --> 03:00:22,840
are pretty low and, and kind of circle the wagons, you know, focus on, focus

2153
03:00:22,840 --> 03:00:25,320
on the biggest piece of the pie, the biggest prize.

2154
03:00:26,520 --> 03:00:30,960
Hear me out. Go completely the opposite direction.

2155
03:00:31,000 --> 03:00:34,040
I think so. Be the king. I think so.

2156
03:00:34,200 --> 03:00:37,440
Of how well you support open source platforms.

2157
03:00:37,480 --> 03:00:42,720
You will get a really hardcore, very vocal, in a good way for you audience, if

2158
03:00:42,720 --> 03:00:46,480
you are able to accomplish that. And they tend to be evangelists.

2159
03:00:47,600 --> 03:00:52,720
They tend to be the kinds of people who, who will wait until something is, if

2160
03:00:52,720 --> 03:00:57,160
we're being real, not really good enough for mainstream. And then they'll be like, boy, it's so good.

2161
03:00:57,160 --> 03:01:02,840
It's great. You, everyone should try it. And it's way better to have those guys on your side right now than to just

2162
03:01:04,240 --> 03:01:08,040
alienate them. And then also really not about that, which is not good for you.

2163
03:01:08,160 --> 03:01:11,160
Not offer anything interesting to the mainstream normies.

2164
03:01:11,160 --> 03:01:14,480
Right now you're, you're, you're doing neither.

2165
03:01:14,680 --> 03:01:20,480
And, and I don't think this is going to work out great. Cause I could see, like I could see Qualcomm, like they have pretty

2166
03:01:20,480 --> 03:01:24,080
compelling gaming performance, for instance, at least the, the new generation

2167
03:01:24,080 --> 03:01:29,400
is, are they out or they rumored? I can't remember. Whatever that, but, but their GPUs are pretty solid.

2168
03:01:29,720 --> 03:01:34,480
And I could see Qualcomm being a legitimate contender in things like handheld

2169
03:01:34,880 --> 03:01:38,080
Windows gaming machines. Sure. Why not? Definitely.

2170
03:01:38,200 --> 03:01:41,800
Why not? Honestly, with, with some of their mini PCs, they're showing off and stuff

2171
03:01:41,840 --> 03:01:45,240
totally makes sense. But now you're going up against the Steam Deck.

2172
03:01:45,360 --> 03:01:48,480
You know, if I'm, if I'm someone who's designing a piece of handheld

2173
03:01:48,480 --> 03:01:53,320
hardware today, would I want to be able to support all the various operating

2174
03:01:53,320 --> 03:01:57,520
systems that can run on it? Would I want to be able to run Steam OS?

2175
03:01:57,520 --> 03:02:00,880
Would I want to be able to run Bazite? Would I want to be able to run?

2176
03:02:01,160 --> 03:02:04,920
Uh, what, what's the, the Windows, um, game optimized mode called?

2177
03:02:05,280 --> 03:02:09,120
We worked on with the Xbox team, whatever that, that thing. I'd want to be able to run all of them.

2178
03:02:09,520 --> 03:02:12,560
I think shutting a door right now.

2179
03:02:13,520 --> 03:02:17,760
Feels like completely failing to read the room.

2180
03:02:18,000 --> 03:02:23,000
Yeah. Which makes sense. Because how can you read a room when the door into it is closed?

2181
03:02:24,960 --> 03:02:28,520
My God. You don't have to call me that on camera.

2182
03:02:28,720 --> 03:02:29,840
Oh, my.

2183
03:02:36,560 --> 03:02:42,720
Gross. Uh, I love teasing it.

2184
03:02:42,720 --> 03:02:46,400
Uh, all right. Next topic. Oh, this is great.

2185
03:02:46,600 --> 03:02:49,720
EU consumer protections strike again.

2186
03:02:50,320 --> 03:02:56,800
You want to do this one? Sure. Uh, this follows the unrelated news that Nintendo is cutting switch to production.

2187
03:02:56,840 --> 03:02:58,960
Hey, I see you pressing that button, Dan.

2188
03:02:59,880 --> 03:03:03,280
Oh, was it you? That was Dan. I don't even know what button.

2189
03:03:03,360 --> 03:03:06,320
He matched the narcissist button like 25 times.

2190
03:03:08,120 --> 03:03:12,560
Um, yeah, so Nintendo is cutting switch to production by 33% after a poor

2191
03:03:12,560 --> 03:03:17,320
performance during the holiday season. Okay, that's bad news. Approximately a cut of two million units this year.

2192
03:03:17,520 --> 03:03:21,920
Wow, crazy. Wait, did you give the good news yet? No one predicted this at all.

2193
03:03:22,160 --> 03:03:25,000
Hmm, interesting. If only there was more than two games for it.

2194
03:03:25,360 --> 03:03:29,120
Wow. Um, the good news for it. Yeah, it's in the title.

2195
03:03:30,000 --> 03:03:33,480
Oh, I thought you read the whole title. No, I didn't. EU consumer protection strike again.

2196
03:03:33,480 --> 03:03:36,560
I knew switch to revision with a removable battery. That's cool.

2197
03:03:37,200 --> 03:03:40,320
To repeat it reportedly release there.

2198
03:03:40,480 --> 03:03:44,320
Oh, in the EU. Yeah. And then maybe potentially the US and North America.

2199
03:03:44,320 --> 03:03:53,440
Maybe, I mean, even if it didn't, I would imagine would import them. The gray market for switch twos with the removable battery would be like stonks.

2200
03:03:53,480 --> 03:03:56,160
Big time. That'd be sick.

2201
03:03:56,920 --> 03:04:00,120
And why not? Why shouldn't it have a removable battery? That sounds great.

2202
03:04:00,560 --> 03:04:05,480
I mean, it's not, it's not a phone, right? Like I can, I can actually really understand it with a phone.

2203
03:04:05,480 --> 03:04:08,360
It's tightly integrated device that literally has to fit in my pocket.

2204
03:04:08,600 --> 03:04:14,200
I have to be able to take it into the swimming pool and take, you know, pictures of, you know,

2205
03:04:14,200 --> 03:04:17,440
my kids learning to swim or whatever it is that I'm doing with my stupid phone.

2206
03:04:17,960 --> 03:04:22,800
But something like a game console. I don't need it to be 0.3 millimeters thinner.

2207
03:04:22,800 --> 03:04:25,680
I think it's probably fine for it to just have a removable battery.

2208
03:04:25,960 --> 03:04:29,040
This is so cool. Yeah, I think people don't care at all. Freaking love it.

2209
03:04:29,320 --> 03:04:32,600
I, the switch is boring.

2210
03:04:33,200 --> 03:04:37,120
I think I'm going to sell mine. Oh, it's boring.

2211
03:04:38,040 --> 03:04:42,080
I played some Mario Kart world with my son on the plane on a recent trip.

2212
03:04:42,440 --> 03:04:45,480
It was good. We played for a bit. It's all right. I hate that game.

2213
03:04:45,880 --> 03:04:50,320
It's, it's, um, it's really sweaty.

2214
03:04:50,560 --> 03:04:53,800
The best Mario Kart experience. No way to win whatsoever.

2215
03:04:54,200 --> 03:04:57,280
If you, there's no way to even be remotely competitive.

2216
03:04:57,640 --> 03:05:03,800
If you don't sweat super hard, which I find pretty not fun.

2217
03:05:03,800 --> 03:05:11,360
Mario Kart game, bro. Yeah. What are we doing? Like if you want to play, why is it like under map mechanics?

2218
03:05:11,360 --> 03:05:17,760
If you want to play a settle Corsa, like play that, you know, like can Mario Kart

2219
03:05:17,760 --> 03:05:22,560
be Mario Kart? And I understand that some people want to play Mario Kart super sweaty.

2220
03:05:22,560 --> 03:05:28,600
And I get that. You can though, but you can play super sweaty without literally driving on a

2221
03:05:28,600 --> 03:05:32,000
completely different track that the other players don't know are there because

2222
03:05:32,000 --> 03:05:38,320
they didn't do hours of research. Yeah, like in Mario Kart eight and deluxe and whatever else, like the variance

2223
03:05:38,320 --> 03:05:42,400
of it, you could absolutely be super sweaty, but the gap between you and

2224
03:05:42,400 --> 03:05:46,440
everybody else is not going to be anywhere near as enormous as Mario Kart

2225
03:05:46,440 --> 03:05:52,840
world. Um, and in my opinion, the mechanics are way more fun, um, decently, heavily

2226
03:05:52,840 --> 03:05:57,640
incentivizing drifting more than world does pretty in line with eight.

2227
03:05:57,960 --> 03:06:01,800
In my opinion is a great thing for the game because everyone can drift.

2228
03:06:02,800 --> 03:06:07,400
It's very simple, but getting it so that like the lines are really perfect and

2229
03:06:07,400 --> 03:06:12,120
stuff is a skill gap and it's really hard and it's rewarding, but it's not

2230
03:06:12,120 --> 03:06:18,480
like game breakingly rewarding. Yeah, like I just, like there was one that I was in first and my son was in

2231
03:06:18,480 --> 03:06:23,880
like sixth and he just like took a shortcut I didn't know about and one.

2232
03:06:24,120 --> 03:06:28,960
And it's like, like I'm not, I'm not like mad about it because it's just

2233
03:06:29,040 --> 03:06:34,200
Mario Kart. Yeah. But that's also the, that's also the other thing though is like, it's just

2234
03:06:34,200 --> 03:06:39,560
Mario Kart. Why do we need to do that? Why do we need to have? There's always been shortcuts to a certain degree, but they were small.

2235
03:06:39,600 --> 03:06:45,280
They're usually very small. They were small and, and maybe you could gain a position and they could be

2236
03:06:45,280 --> 03:06:50,120
very difficult to execute often in a really brutal way.

2237
03:06:50,160 --> 03:06:53,360
Yes. Where you would only really take it if you kind of needed to. Yeah.

2238
03:06:53,480 --> 03:06:58,800
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you'd honestly be better off with a mushroom in a lot of

2239
03:06:58,800 --> 03:07:02,720
cases or the shortcuts are, are, are kind of everywhere.

2240
03:07:02,840 --> 03:07:06,000
And you can just, you know, like blast across a corner with a mushroom instead

2241
03:07:06,000 --> 03:07:09,200
of, you know, going through the, like going over grass or whatever obvious.

2242
03:07:09,280 --> 03:07:13,200
Yeah. Maybe you, maybe you do it wrong on like the first lap, but then you know from

2243
03:07:13,200 --> 03:07:18,280
then on stuff where the track just like splits into two and half of the AIs are

2244
03:07:18,280 --> 03:07:23,400
going left and half of them are going right. And you just like don't know which way you're supposed to go.

2245
03:07:23,400 --> 03:07:27,800
It's just that's not a race anymore. That's maze path finding.

2246
03:07:27,840 --> 03:07:31,080
And I understand a lot of people are having a lot of fun with Mario Kart

2247
03:07:31,080 --> 03:07:35,320
world, but if the switch sales or anything to go by, a lot of people also

2248
03:07:35,360 --> 03:07:40,560
just like kind of aren't. Yeah. Um, Benanzas supposed to be really good.

2249
03:07:40,560 --> 03:07:41,120
I haven't played it.

2250
03:07:43,840 --> 03:07:46,360
I feel like I'll probably like play that and then sell it.

2251
03:07:47,000 --> 03:07:51,920
Yeah. I could see that. I could see that. I mean, Emma's super, super into Donkey Kong.

2252
03:07:51,960 --> 03:07:56,760
So I bought Benanzas for like her to play on the switch and then the house.

2253
03:07:57,520 --> 03:08:01,000
So neither of us have played it, but we'll probably play through that.

2254
03:08:01,040 --> 03:08:05,160
And then yeah, there's nothing else pulling me towards the switch too.

2255
03:08:05,600 --> 03:08:08,400
That feels worth it for the device cost. If that makes sense.

2256
03:08:09,160 --> 03:08:13,800
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2286
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like Google workspace, Microsoft and stuff. And I didn't actually realize how much stuff they had.

2288
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2289
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2290
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They got lots of stuff. Is it new? It never came up on my evaluation.

2291
03:10:52,160 --> 03:10:55,160
No, it's not new, but it's been. They don't have a chat.

2292
03:10:55,160 --> 03:10:57,160
It's been expanding very aggressively.

2293
03:10:58,160 --> 03:11:00,160
Make a chat. If that makes sense, we can use Slack.

2294
03:11:03,160 --> 03:11:09,160
I don't want to pay for Slack. Slack is a little bit less expensive than I thought.

2295
03:11:09,160 --> 03:11:12,160
I don't want a little bit less expensive. We're free.

2296
03:11:12,160 --> 03:11:17,160
Well, no, I don't want free either. I mean, there are potentially free options we've been looking into.

2297
03:11:17,160 --> 03:11:20,160
Oh, really? Yeah. There's definitely your pay for.

2298
03:11:20,160 --> 03:11:24,160
There is. Yeah. And we have a really weird team structure.

2299
03:11:24,160 --> 03:11:27,160
Self-host Mattermost. Mattermost is being getting really weird. You should look into that.

2300
03:11:27,160 --> 03:11:31,160
We have such a weird team structure. Like for a piece of software.

2301
03:11:31,160 --> 03:11:35,160
For a 100 person company, we do so much different stuff.

2302
03:11:35,160 --> 03:11:41,160
It's crazy. Like there are companies our size whose entire thing is they just like make drill bits.

2303
03:11:41,160 --> 03:11:46,160
And everyone just is moving in one direction, like making drill bits.

2304
03:11:46,160 --> 03:11:55,160
Like I, we have a peril and we have like like engineered goods and we have a video platform

2305
03:11:55,160 --> 03:12:03,160
and we have flip in an events business and production company and just procurement is

2306
03:12:03,160 --> 03:12:05,160
makes us so weird.

2307
03:12:06,160 --> 03:12:11,160
Like none of the film production software includes an entire procurement chain.

2308
03:12:11,160 --> 03:12:15,160
Right. Because why would you have to procure something in order to make your video?

2309
03:12:15,160 --> 03:12:19,160
Well, because for us, unless we have the thing, we can't make a video about it.

2310
03:12:19,160 --> 03:12:25,160
And we have to have sometimes 40 things for one video of the, you know.

2311
03:12:25,160 --> 03:12:28,160
Like an AMD ultimate tech upgrade. Yeah, even more.

2312
03:12:28,160 --> 03:12:34,160
And then we release like hundreds of videos a quarter, which also no one does.

2313
03:12:34,160 --> 03:12:40,160
Yeah. So ironically teams is like actually set up really well for us because we have all of

2314
03:12:40,160 --> 03:12:43,160
the different channels and things. Yeah.

2315
03:12:43,160 --> 03:12:46,160
You can do that in lots of platforms. Yeah.

2316
03:12:46,160 --> 03:12:49,160
But on Slack, we can't dictate the order. Yeah.

2317
03:12:49,160 --> 03:12:53,160
But you can give people packages and stuff like that. Like there's ways to make it better.

2318
03:12:53,160 --> 03:12:57,160
I do agree that that sucks. You can't build someone's hierarchy for them.

2319
03:12:57,160 --> 03:13:00,160
That's also like, do we need that?

2320
03:13:00,160 --> 03:13:03,160
Yeah. Can we just figure out something else?

2321
03:13:03,160 --> 03:13:06,160
To save $800 billion.

2322
03:13:06,160 --> 03:13:10,160
Well, it wouldn't save money if we went to Slack compared to Teams.

2323
03:13:10,160 --> 03:13:13,160
Oh, no. I mean, like something self-hosted or like one of the other ones.

2324
03:13:13,160 --> 03:13:21,160
If Discord had better user management, we could use Discord, but it's like kind of meh.

2325
03:13:21,160 --> 03:13:24,160
Kind of meh.

2326
03:13:24,160 --> 03:13:29,160
Sorry.

2327
03:13:29,160 --> 03:13:34,160
A particular colleague just sent a video of one of their kids that their kid asked them

2328
03:13:34,160 --> 03:13:39,160
to send to me and it's of them driving around and you know those like really rugged cardboard

2329
03:13:39,160 --> 03:13:42,160
boxes that you can get for free at Costco? Yeah.

2330
03:13:42,160 --> 03:13:45,660
They're like sitting in it like a car and they've like made a little dashboard and they're

2331
03:13:45,660 --> 03:13:51,160
like dry scooting around on the floor and he's like kicking the thing so that it like

2332
03:13:51,160 --> 03:13:57,160
goes for a little bit. And I was just like, why do we buy them expensive toys?

2333
03:13:58,160 --> 03:14:03,160
It's great. I love to see kids using imagination, man.

2334
03:14:03,160 --> 03:14:11,160
It's refreshing. My eldest daughter is getting into this, I forget what it's called, but it's this animation

2335
03:14:11,160 --> 03:14:19,160
platform on the iPad that you draw every frame and she made this little, she's made a couple

2336
03:14:19,160 --> 03:14:26,160
little like short things that one of them is cats catching mice and then at the end of

2337
03:14:26,160 --> 03:14:30,160
her kind of punch line is she has a shot of just like a pile of dead rats and mice

2338
03:14:30,160 --> 03:14:34,160
and the mice go on to, I don't know, she's an interesting child.

2339
03:14:34,160 --> 03:14:40,160
I mean every child's an interesting child, she's really into cats and then that's why

2340
03:14:40,160 --> 03:14:45,160
she chose cat as her stage name. Like she's just like very into cats.

2341
03:14:45,160 --> 03:14:48,160
We were in Korea recently, we went all the way around the world and nobody she wanted

2342
03:14:48,160 --> 03:14:53,160
to do, she wants to go to a cat cafe. Literally, we have cat at home.

2343
03:14:53,160 --> 03:14:57,160
We have many cat at home.

2344
03:14:57,160 --> 03:15:03,160
Anyway, she made another one that's like this dragon thing that goes and it does a thing

2345
03:15:03,160 --> 03:15:09,160
and I don't know. It's pretty cool and as far as I'm concerned, we have car votes in our screen time rules

2346
03:15:09,160 --> 03:15:13,160
for if you are making something.

2347
03:15:13,160 --> 03:15:17,160
Sure. So if you are designing something for 3D printing, that doesn't count.

2348
03:15:17,160 --> 03:15:23,160
If you are doing an animation or you're like making a stop motion thing with your phone

2349
03:15:23,160 --> 03:15:26,160
or whatever, that doesn't count. And it's really cool.

2350
03:15:26,160 --> 03:15:33,160
Google Family Link actually has some wonderful tools for carving out particular apps, particular

2351
03:15:33,160 --> 03:15:39,160
times so that you can say, okay, yeah, you get like 45 minutes of general use.

2352
03:15:39,160 --> 03:15:45,160
This particular app is limited to like 15 minutes and these apps you can use anytime you want

2353
03:15:45,160 --> 03:15:48,160
as much as you want. Really awesome.

2354
03:15:48,160 --> 03:15:53,160
So like something like I have Kindle Unlimited so they're allowed to read as much as they

2355
03:15:53,160 --> 03:15:58,160
want on the Kindle. I don't care. I don't care if they're looking at a screen or at a paper page.

2356
03:15:58,160 --> 03:16:01,160
At that age, all I care about is their reading.

2357
03:16:01,160 --> 03:16:04,160
So you can fine tune that. It's pretty cool.

2358
03:16:04,160 --> 03:16:07,160
Yeah, yeah.

2359
03:16:07,160 --> 03:16:09,160
Graphene OS. Yeah.

2360
03:16:10,160 --> 03:16:16,160
Has flatly refused to comply with emerging laws requiring operating systems to collect

2361
03:16:16,160 --> 03:16:22,160
age data at setup. Base. They have said they will never require personal information, ID or an account.

2362
03:16:22,160 --> 03:16:27,160
Base. In their Twitter statement, they said, if Graphene OS devices can't be sold in a region

2363
03:16:27,160 --> 03:16:30,160
due to their regulations, so be it.

2364
03:16:30,160 --> 03:16:35,160
Base. The statement was prompted by Brazil's digital ECA law taking effect March 17th with carries

2365
03:16:35,160 --> 03:16:39,160
fines of up to $9.5 million per violation.

2366
03:16:39,160 --> 03:16:43,160
California's similar law takes effect January 2027.

2367
03:16:43,160 --> 03:16:48,160
This stance creates a real problem for Graphene OS's new Motorola partnership, which was announced

2368
03:16:48,160 --> 03:16:54,160
at Mobile World Congress. A hardware vendor selling devices globally would have to comply with local laws in every

2369
03:16:54,160 --> 03:16:58,160
market it ships to, meaning that Motorola may have to restrict sales of Graphene OS phones

2370
03:16:58,160 --> 03:17:02,160
geographically. Linus comment.

2371
03:17:02,160 --> 03:17:04,160
I hadn't seen that until now.

2372
03:17:06,160 --> 03:17:11,160
Base. I genuinely didn't read that.

2373
03:17:11,160 --> 03:17:15,160
I don't think we need to get further into like, what are these laws?

2374
03:17:15,160 --> 03:17:18,160
Are they supposedly about protecting kids? What are they actually for?

2375
03:17:18,160 --> 03:17:21,160
Collecting data. Let's move on to something that's more exciting.

2376
03:17:21,160 --> 03:17:24,160
Maybe you'll have to go on to a road trip outside of California to buy your phone.

2377
03:17:24,160 --> 03:17:30,160
Like Samsung. Saying that airdrop support is enabled by default after all on Galaxy phones.

2378
03:17:30,160 --> 03:17:35,160
They're rolling it out to Galaxy S26 devices via a 1 UI 8.5 update, letting users share files

2379
03:17:35,160 --> 03:17:38,160
directly with iPhones, iPads, and Macs through QuickShare.

2380
03:17:38,160 --> 03:17:44,160
No third-party apps needed. The feature is enabled by default through Samsung's, though Samsung's own promotional

2381
03:17:44,160 --> 03:17:49,160
video initially showed it as off, causing some confusion before the company clarified.

2382
03:17:49,160 --> 03:17:52,160
Google figured out how to make this work without Apple's involvement when it launched on Pixel

2383
03:17:52,160 --> 03:17:56,160
10 last year, and Samsung is now the second Android OEM to get it, with no word yet on

2384
03:17:56,160 --> 03:18:00,160
when other Galaxy devices will follow.

2385
03:18:00,160 --> 03:18:05,160
Our discussion question is now that airdrop works both ways, and green message bubbles

2386
03:18:05,160 --> 03:18:10,160
are no longer the social albatross that they once were.

2387
03:18:10,160 --> 03:18:15,160
Are there any major friction points that will remain?

2388
03:18:15,160 --> 03:18:18,160
I'd say FaceTime would be a big one. Status.

2389
03:18:18,160 --> 03:18:22,160
Status? Yeah. I think people still think you're weird.

2390
03:18:22,160 --> 03:18:28,160
That's so funky, because I don't want this to come across the wrong way, because I don't

2391
03:18:28,160 --> 03:18:33,160
care, but my Android costs more than your iPhone.

2392
03:18:33,160 --> 03:18:36,160
Why do you think your iPhone is a status symbol? I don't know.

2393
03:18:36,160 --> 03:18:39,160
Okay. I'm just trying to... I don't get it.

2394
03:18:39,160 --> 03:18:43,160
I'm just trying to understand it. I have an old crappy phone at this point.

2395
03:18:43,160 --> 03:18:46,160
I don't care. I never cared.

2396
03:18:46,160 --> 03:18:50,160
All right. I think it's such a silly thing.

2397
03:18:50,160 --> 03:18:55,160
I mean, I think caring about like, oh, they have an old car.

2398
03:18:55,160 --> 03:19:00,160
Therefore, poor, therefore bad is stupid, let alone phones.

2399
03:19:00,160 --> 03:19:03,160
I think the whole thing is just dumb.

2400
03:19:03,160 --> 03:19:06,160
I'm the wrong person to consult on this.

2401
03:19:06,160 --> 03:19:10,160
I will never understand.

2402
03:19:10,160 --> 03:19:15,160
You didn't waste your money on some device that's just going to basically be useless

2403
03:19:15,160 --> 03:19:18,160
in three to five years? Okay.

2404
03:19:18,160 --> 03:19:25,160
Cool. My car is 60 this year, says gas racing and Floatplane chat.

2405
03:19:25,160 --> 03:19:28,160
Sick. That's pretty cool. Sick.

2406
03:19:28,160 --> 03:19:31,160
There's definitely a... There's definitely a... You know, this...

2407
03:19:31,160 --> 03:19:35,160
Yeah. They become expensive again after they get out.

2408
03:19:35,160 --> 03:19:38,160
Yeah. What? Yeah.

2409
03:19:38,160 --> 03:19:44,160
No one in Floatplane chat gets it or cares.

2410
03:19:44,160 --> 03:19:48,160
Yeah. Which, I mean, makes sense.

2411
03:19:48,160 --> 03:19:53,160
But iPhone users. Plada says most people I know with nicer cars are broke AF.

2412
03:19:53,160 --> 03:19:56,160
Yeah, this is kind of my point. Yeah.

2413
03:19:56,160 --> 03:20:02,160
I got to say, I do find like the car situation a little confusing.

2414
03:20:02,160 --> 03:20:06,160
Like, I...

2415
03:20:06,160 --> 03:20:12,160
People in general seem to spend a lot more of their income on their car than I ever have.

2416
03:20:12,160 --> 03:20:15,160
It's so weird. I don't get it at all.

2417
03:20:15,160 --> 03:20:18,160
You know how long I drove the Super Civic. Oh, yeah.

2418
03:20:18,160 --> 03:20:21,160
And then you know how long I drove the Volt. Yeah.

2419
03:20:21,160 --> 03:20:26,160
You literally know the finances of the company.

2420
03:20:26,160 --> 03:20:29,160
I've driven all of your cars. Really?

2421
03:20:29,160 --> 03:20:33,160
I never put that together until you just listed it that out.

2422
03:20:33,160 --> 03:20:36,160
But did you own a car before the Super Civic? You could hand me down?

2423
03:20:36,160 --> 03:20:39,160
I did. Yeah, I had a Volkswagen Jetta. Never mind.

2424
03:20:39,160 --> 03:20:42,160
Yeah, you never drove that one. Because you had a... You also had a Golf.

2425
03:20:42,160 --> 03:20:45,160
Yeah, yeah, that was Yvonne's before I brought the Minivan. Yeah.

2426
03:20:45,160 --> 03:20:48,160
Have you ever driven our Minivan? Okay, no. Okay, he missed the Minivan.

2427
03:20:48,160 --> 03:20:51,160
I did drive the Golf. I think you're still over 50%. Yeah.

2428
03:20:51,160 --> 03:20:54,160
But you've never ridden my bike. No. At least not once.

2429
03:20:54,160 --> 03:20:57,160
I'll let you ride big if you want, though. The weight balance of that would be kind of crazy.

2430
03:20:57,160 --> 03:21:04,160
That would be kind of crazy because you're up higher too. Yeah, I did ride on the back of a moped with Dennis and Taipei.

2431
03:21:04,160 --> 03:21:07,160
Yeah, that was scary. That was a little nuts. That was pretty scary.

2432
03:21:07,160 --> 03:21:10,160
That was a little wild.

2433
03:21:10,160 --> 03:21:13,160
So... Luke's lived in all of Linus's houses too?

2434
03:21:13,160 --> 03:21:16,160
Oh, yeah, that. No. No, not in the current one.

2435
03:21:16,160 --> 03:21:20,160
Yeah. Although I did offer while you had your issues recently to let you come live with us.

2436
03:21:20,160 --> 03:21:25,160
And he refused. He wouldn't. He didn't want that Pokemon.

2437
03:21:25,160 --> 03:21:28,160
I stayed at my parents.

2438
03:21:28,160 --> 03:21:35,160
So I'd be down here. You'd be up here.

2439
03:21:35,160 --> 03:21:41,160
I mean, I'd give it a shot. Even with Yvonne or my son when he was quite a bit younger, I think he was probably about

2440
03:21:41,160 --> 03:21:45,160
10 when I was riding with him on the back.

2441
03:21:45,160 --> 03:21:50,160
Way a lot less than you. I don't know if I could balance that bike with you on it.

2442
03:21:50,160 --> 03:21:56,660
And you'd be up so high and your legs are not really that long that you would not be

2443
03:21:56,660 --> 03:22:03,660
able to put your foot down until we were quite horizontal.

2444
03:22:03,660 --> 03:22:07,160
And also this is really hot if it was operating.

2445
03:22:07,160 --> 03:22:10,160
So that could be really dangerous. Is there foot placements?

2446
03:22:10,160 --> 03:22:15,160
Yeah. The pegs are. It's a little too pixely, but yeah, I can imagine.

2447
03:22:15,160 --> 03:22:19,160
Yeah. Yeah. So you put these down and then you're pegging.

2448
03:22:19,160 --> 03:22:23,160
It would look hilarious. It would look so ridiculous.

2449
03:22:23,160 --> 03:22:27,160
You would look like you'd look like Donkey Kong and Mario Kart on my bike, like sitting

2450
03:22:27,160 --> 03:22:30,160
on the back of it like that. Ridiculous.

2451
03:22:30,160 --> 03:22:41,160
Yeah. Next topic.

2452
03:22:41,160 --> 03:22:49,160
TCL has been banned from calling some of its TVs QLED due to a lack of dots.

2453
03:22:49,160 --> 03:22:55,160
That is to say a lack of cadmium and indium in the optical sheets for their TVs.

2454
03:22:55,160 --> 03:22:58,160
They also found this, so this is a Munich court.

2455
03:22:58,160 --> 03:23:02,160
They also found that this meant the TVs did not have the color performance that is normally

2456
03:23:02,160 --> 03:23:05,160
associated with quantum dot or QLED technology.

2457
03:23:05,160 --> 03:23:10,160
This ruling comes as a result of a lawsuit filed by Samsung where they commissioned testing

2458
03:23:10,160 --> 03:23:16,160
of TCL displays and accused them of misleading consumers in their marketing.

2459
03:23:16,160 --> 03:23:20,160
TCL and Hisense are also facing class action lawsuits in the U.S. over the marketing of

2460
03:23:20,160 --> 03:23:23,160
QLED TVs.

2461
03:23:24,160 --> 03:23:27,160
I actually support Samsung's efforts here.

2462
03:23:27,160 --> 03:23:35,160
It's kind of based. I had a recent experience with a TV manufacturer where they talked to me and explained and

2463
03:23:35,160 --> 03:23:41,160
showed some of the work that they do not to reverse engineer their competitors' products,

2464
03:23:41,160 --> 03:23:44,160
but to evaluate their competitors' products.

2465
03:23:44,160 --> 03:23:48,160
So the kinds of breakdowns that they'll do on it to really understand the performance

2466
03:23:48,160 --> 03:23:52,160
of their competitors' products so they know what they're up against.

2467
03:23:52,160 --> 03:23:59,160
We'll have a video on this pretty soon, but there were some shocking revelations that

2468
03:23:59,160 --> 03:24:05,160
unless you have the engineering expertise to literally disassemble the TV and watch it

2469
03:24:05,160 --> 03:24:11,160
operate and get scopes on it and really know what it's doing, you would never know.

2470
03:24:11,160 --> 03:24:15,160
There's much like you see in phone benchmarking or much like we've seen over the years in

2471
03:24:15,160 --> 03:24:21,160
phone benchmarking. There's a lot of cheating that can be done when TVs are detecting particular test patterns

2472
03:24:21,160 --> 03:24:30,160
or scenes and it's getting harder and harder to not only stop that cheating but even notice

2473
03:24:30,160 --> 03:24:36,160
it because it's a feature, not a bug, that every TV these days has an AI processor in

2474
03:24:36,160 --> 03:24:39,160
it that is analyzing everything on the screen.

2475
03:24:39,160 --> 03:24:44,160
So they really do know everything they're displaying and they can tune the image and

2476
03:24:44,160 --> 03:24:47,160
they can tune the behavior of the TV accordingly.

2477
03:24:47,160 --> 03:24:51,160
Samsung actually has gotten caught doing things like that, like boosting their brightness

2478
03:24:51,160 --> 03:24:55,160
during test patterns. If I recall correctly, that was on what the S95B.

2479
03:24:55,160 --> 03:25:04,160
Let me know in chat if anyone remembers. I'm pretty sure that was the thing, but I don't want to say that and be wrong.

2480
03:25:04,160 --> 03:25:09,160
Come on. Anyone? Was that Samsung?

2481
03:25:09,160 --> 03:25:14,160
We could talk about this cute little 14-year-old ThinkPad.

2482
03:25:14,160 --> 03:25:19,160
This was fun that got upgraded for 25 bucks.

2483
03:25:19,160 --> 03:25:22,160
No one. No one. Still no one.

2484
03:25:22,160 --> 03:25:26,800
Yeah, a YouTuber named Onion Boots set out to make a near-perfect ThinkPad since the

2485
03:25:26,800 --> 03:25:33,160
peeling energy star sticker was just enough to justify it never becoming a display piece.

2486
03:25:33,160 --> 03:25:43,160
The near-perfect ThinkPads general specs are a third gen Intel Core i5-2230M or an i7-3520M.

2487
03:25:44,160 --> 03:25:47,160
Isn't this a specific model? I don't know. Okay.

2488
03:25:47,160 --> 03:25:53,160
16GB of DDR3 and a 12.5-inch LED backlit TN panel at 1366x768.

2489
03:25:53,160 --> 03:25:56,160
Ooh, that display is a yikes. The display is kind of the biggest problem here.

2490
03:25:56,160 --> 03:26:05,160
It's a decent amount of memory, actually. Onion Boots claims that it's not a full HD mod, but rather a simple swap to an IPS LG panel.

2491
03:26:05,160 --> 03:26:11,160
It's from the same year and has the same resolution, a little unfortunate, but the jump from TN to

2492
03:26:11,160 --> 03:26:15,160
IPS is pretty sweet. Onion Boots simply didn't feel comfortable with soldering.

2493
03:26:15,160 --> 03:26:18,160
Yeah. It's only 25 bucks. Anyway, I just thought it was cool.

2494
03:26:18,160 --> 03:26:21,160
Hey, don't forget. That's actually pretty legit. Older laptops.

2495
03:26:21,160 --> 03:26:24,660
Sometimes you can improve your display, throw an SSD in it.

2496
03:26:24,660 --> 03:26:28,160
They can be very usable, especially with something like, I don't know, Linux Mint.

2497
03:26:28,160 --> 03:26:32,160
My discussion question here, though, is actually kind of unrelated.

2498
03:26:32,160 --> 03:26:35,160
Can we stop doing this?

2499
03:26:35,160 --> 03:26:40,160
Tom's hardware. Oh, yeah.

2500
03:26:40,160 --> 03:26:44,160
Bro has a name. Bro has a channel name.

2501
03:26:44,160 --> 03:26:47,160
Okay. Yeah. It's here.

2502
03:26:47,160 --> 03:26:50,160
And you do eventually get into it.

2503
03:26:50,160 --> 03:26:53,160
One intrepid YouTuber. Uh-huh.

2504
03:26:53,160 --> 03:26:58,160
Uh-huh. Okay. Where do we get the YouTuber Onion Boots?

2505
03:26:58,160 --> 03:27:02,160
How far below the fold are we here?

2506
03:27:02,160 --> 03:27:08,160
How would you like it? If instead of saying the article that brought this to my attention was Tom's hardware, I

2507
03:27:08,160 --> 03:27:15,160
said, traditional written media site reports that a YouTuber has upgraded their 14-year-old

2508
03:27:15,160 --> 03:27:20,160
ThinkPad. Can we not? We all have names.

2509
03:27:20,160 --> 03:27:24,160
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Oh, I've watched Onion Boots before.

2510
03:27:24,160 --> 03:27:28,160
I was going to say, I feel like I recognize this channel, but yeah, there's one video

2511
03:27:28,160 --> 03:27:34,160
that went freaking crazy. But maybe it would be pretty good for their channel if everyone who reported on the cool

2512
03:27:34,160 --> 03:27:38,160
work that they're doing maybe named them in the headline.

2513
03:27:38,160 --> 03:27:41,160
That would be pretty cool. It is a super cool video though.

2514
03:27:41,160 --> 03:27:46,160
If you think the laptop video is neat but isn't going to draw you in, Onion Boots has a video

2515
03:27:46,160 --> 03:27:49,160
called a web revival. The internet didn't die.

2516
03:27:49,160 --> 03:27:53,160
You're just not on it. And this video is awesome. It's really cool.

2517
03:27:53,160 --> 03:28:02,160
So maybe check it out. It talks about websites like this that is his that are up right now, which feel like older

2518
03:28:02,160 --> 03:28:07,160
website. It talks about how a lot of these older style websites link to each other.

2519
03:28:07,160 --> 03:28:12,160
And it's like a cool old surfing the web style feeling that you can find on the internet

2520
03:28:12,160 --> 03:28:15,160
if you go to these different sites. So check that video.

2521
03:28:15,160 --> 03:28:19,160
It's cool. He references a bunch of different ones that you could go check out.

2522
03:28:19,160 --> 03:28:22,160
Yeah, it's actually just genuinely awesome video.

2523
03:28:22,160 --> 03:28:25,160
Can you play Mind Sweeper in the background of that site?

2524
03:28:25,160 --> 03:28:28,160
Is that what I'm looking at here?

2525
03:28:28,160 --> 03:28:33,160
Hold on. Hold on a minute here.

2526
03:28:33,160 --> 03:28:39,160
Are you kidding me right now? So I think it's not like I'm doing it as well.

2527
03:28:39,160 --> 03:28:42,160
And I'm clearly not playing like with you. So it's it's local.

2528
03:28:42,160 --> 03:28:45,160
But yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2529
03:28:45,160 --> 03:28:48,160
I mean, that's Mind Sweeper. That's that's a that's a Mind Sweeper.

2530
03:28:48,160 --> 03:28:56,160
If I've ever seen one.

2531
03:28:56,160 --> 03:29:02,160
Something I have always name your egg.

2532
03:29:02,160 --> 03:29:08,160
Egg hatching in 21 seconds. This feels very neo pets.

2533
03:29:08,160 --> 03:29:14,160
Yeah, there's a bunch of very, very cool, very cool video.

2534
03:29:14,160 --> 03:29:20,160
And it links to other people's sites.

2535
03:29:20,160 --> 03:29:23,160
Oh, whoops. Oh crap. I clicked the wrong side of my trackpad.

2536
03:29:23,160 --> 03:29:29,160
Don't play mine. Don't play Mind Sweeper with a trackpad.

2537
03:29:29,160 --> 03:29:32,160
Yeah. Anyways. Cool.

2538
03:29:32,160 --> 03:29:36,160
Valve has finally detailed steam machines verified program at

2539
03:29:36,160 --> 03:29:40,160
GDC 2026. Valve confirms that games need to set stable 1080p 30 FPS in

2540
03:29:40,160 --> 03:29:43,160
order to earn the steam machine verified badge.

2541
03:29:43,160 --> 03:29:47,160
So the same performance bar as steam deck verified just at a

2542
03:29:47,160 --> 03:29:52,160
higher resolution. Any game that is already deck verified automatically qualifies

2543
03:29:52,160 --> 03:29:55,160
and the steam machine is confirmed to have six times the

2544
03:29:55,160 --> 03:29:59,160
performance of the deck. This 30 FPS floor is just the minimum for the badge.

2545
03:29:59,160 --> 03:30:03,160
Valve has previously said that most steam titles can hit 4K 60

2546
03:30:03,160 --> 03:30:09,160
FPS on the hardware as long as you enable FSR upscaling.

2547
03:30:09,160 --> 03:30:12,160
Our discussion question. Oh, it's an interesting one actually.

2548
03:30:12,160 --> 03:30:15,160
Sony and Microsoft tell you exactly what their consoles can do

2549
03:30:15,160 --> 03:30:20,160
at launch. I mean, sort of. Many games do have a performance or quality toggle now, but

2550
03:30:20,160 --> 03:30:24,160
that our discussion question goes on to ask is Valves at

2551
03:30:24,160 --> 03:30:28,160
depends on the game approach good enough for people who want

2552
03:30:28,160 --> 03:30:31,160
the simplicity of just plugging something into their TV and

2553
03:30:31,160 --> 03:30:35,160
pressing play. So don't know that Sony and Microsoft's ones are always

2554
03:30:35,160 --> 03:30:40,160
necessarily fully true. No, but they definitely simplified the message.

2555
03:30:40,160 --> 03:30:43,160
Yeah. And you mostly understand what you're getting.

2556
03:30:43,160 --> 03:30:46,160
I mean, Sony had that whole debacle where they had 8K L over

2557
03:30:46,160 --> 03:30:49,160
the packaging for the PS5 and then just kind of quietly removed

2558
03:30:49,160 --> 03:30:52,160
it.

2559
03:30:52,160 --> 03:30:57,160
It seems like it wasn't a problem. I understand the argument and I think it's valid.

2560
03:30:57,160 --> 03:31:01,160
I think the audience for steam stuff is a little bit different.

2561
03:31:01,160 --> 03:31:05,160
I think so too. I also think that the way that they're positioning this by

2562
03:31:05,160 --> 03:31:08,160
saying like pretty much everything's going to be fine.

2563
03:31:08,160 --> 03:31:12,160
I think we'll kind of whisk that away a little bit and I suspect

2564
03:31:12,160 --> 03:31:15,160
there'll be an understanding that like at launch and Xbox is

2565
03:31:15,160 --> 03:31:19,160
going to play a certain amount of games and at launch the steam

2566
03:31:19,160 --> 03:31:24,160
machine is going to play. Damn, you're freaking everything and you're going to have to

2567
03:31:24,160 --> 03:31:30,160
understand that there's going to be some scale there. I'm going to come out and say most people don't care.

2568
03:31:30,160 --> 03:31:34,160
Yeah. And like, but really actually don't care.

2569
03:31:34,160 --> 03:31:39,160
And the people who do probably know better than to buy a steam

2570
03:31:39,160 --> 03:31:43,160
machine and expect to run at, you know, 4K 120 FPS.

2571
03:31:43,160 --> 03:31:47,160
Okay. So you can run stars and on Linux.

2572
03:31:47,160 --> 03:31:51,160
So if you can play games like that, I mean, according to AI,

2573
03:31:51,160 --> 03:31:54,160
you did the thing. I found myself doing this.

2574
03:31:54,160 --> 03:31:57,160
I saw this. Okay. All right.

2575
03:31:57,160 --> 03:32:00,160
Okay. Good. But checking.

2576
03:32:00,160 --> 03:32:03,160
Yeah. Sometimes I do the thing, Luke. I try to resist.

2577
03:32:03,160 --> 03:32:08,160
I try to resist too. I saw that. I saw that Reddit thread where it says I run stars is it on

2578
03:32:08,160 --> 03:32:11,160
my Linux box. I use Arch by the way. I have no issues whatsoever.

2579
03:32:11,160 --> 03:32:15,160
You can see the, I still didn't click through, but I saw this.

2580
03:32:15,160 --> 03:32:19,160
Yep. But I, yeah, I try to resist. Hey, Reddit wants your click.

2581
03:32:19,160 --> 03:32:24,160
Make sure to support Reddit. I did click on it. Small up and coming platforms like Reddit need your help.

2582
03:32:24,160 --> 03:32:28,160
I was going to say, yeah, but it's like, you know, if you're

2583
03:32:28,160 --> 03:32:32,160
able to run games like that, like, damn, how are they supposed to

2584
03:32:32,160 --> 03:32:39,160
verify stuff? Yeah. What does run stars doesn't mean?

2585
03:32:40,160 --> 03:32:44,160
Whatever. I think their explanation is pretty good. I totally understand the discussion question.

2586
03:32:44,160 --> 03:32:50,160
I think it's a fair thing to point out. It isn't as clear and easy as the console ones, but I kind of

2587
03:32:50,160 --> 03:32:55,160
prefer this because it feels a lot more legit. And I hope that people read it properly.

2588
03:32:55,160 --> 03:32:58,160
Yeah. Our last big topic here.

2589
03:32:58,160 --> 03:33:02,160
Anthropics Claude can now, I'm no, I'm sticking with my

2590
03:33:02,160 --> 03:33:06,160
pronunciation cloud. Oh, I see. Can now control your computer.

2591
03:33:06,160 --> 03:33:09,160
Anthropic has launched a research preview of computer use for

2592
03:33:09,160 --> 03:33:14,160
cloud pro and max subscribers on macOS, letting cloud open apps,

2593
03:33:14,160 --> 03:33:17,160
navigate browsers, fill spreadsheets and handle multi-step

2594
03:33:17,160 --> 03:33:21,160
tasks on your computer. It pairs with dispatch, a new mobile tool that lets you assign

2595
03:33:21,160 --> 03:33:24,160
tasks to cloud from your phone and have it execute them on

2596
03:33:24,160 --> 03:33:29,160
your desktop. Anthropic warns the features early can still make mistakes

2597
03:33:29,160 --> 03:33:33,160
and they advise against giving it access to sensitive data for

2598
03:33:33,160 --> 03:33:38,160
now. Cloud will always ask permission before accessing new apps.

2599
03:33:38,160 --> 03:33:42,160
Linus comment, this is, yeah, when I posted the news and the

2600
03:33:42,160 --> 03:33:46,160
news feed, what could go wrong?

2601
03:33:46,160 --> 03:33:54,160
Even Microsoft has been restrained enough to not just let

2602
03:33:54,160 --> 03:34:00,160
co-pilot do stuff on your computer, which I've talked about.

2603
03:34:00,160 --> 03:34:04,160
Defeats the purpose of even having an AI assistant on my

2604
03:34:04,160 --> 03:34:08,160
computer. If it can't do anything, then what's the point of it?

2605
03:34:08,160 --> 03:34:13,160
But also, that's totally fine. Well, it looks like Anthropic has kind of gone, oh yeah, what is

2606
03:34:13,160 --> 03:34:16,160
the point of an AI assistant on your computer if it can't just

2607
03:34:16,160 --> 03:34:19,160
completely do stuff for you?

2608
03:34:19,160 --> 03:34:29,160
And now we get this. This was the wrong answer, but I guess we have it now.

2609
03:34:30,160 --> 03:34:34,160
Now what?

2610
03:34:34,160 --> 03:34:37,160
So I was just reading a very confusing comment.

2611
03:34:37,160 --> 03:34:40,160
I don't know, there's been multiple things have been able to do

2612
03:34:40,160 --> 03:34:45,160
this already. I think by adding it to Cloud Pro and Macs, you're bringing it

2613
03:34:45,160 --> 03:34:50,160
to more mainstream people, which is going to be freaking spicy.

2614
03:34:50,160 --> 03:34:53,160
I do think it's really interesting that the thing that

2615
03:34:53,160 --> 03:34:56,160
Microsoft was pushing is going to happen on Mac from someone

2616
03:34:56,160 --> 03:35:00,160
else before it will happen on Windows with co-pilot.

2617
03:35:00,160 --> 03:35:03,160
Yeah, it's pretty funny.

2618
03:35:03,160 --> 03:35:07,160
Just Windows doing, Microsoft doing current era Microsoft

2619
03:35:07,160 --> 03:35:10,160
things, I guess.

2620
03:35:10,160 --> 03:35:15,160
Yeah, interesting. Kids Lane in the Floor Plane Chat says, my AI assistant cannot

2621
03:35:15,160 --> 03:35:22,160
stop ordering candles. Help. I had somebody invite their AI assistant to a Discord call

2622
03:35:22,160 --> 03:35:25,160
that we were in the other day and prompted it with voice in

2623
03:35:25,160 --> 03:35:28,160
the Discord call and then told it to leave the Discord call

2624
03:35:28,160 --> 03:35:31,160
and it disconnected.

2625
03:35:31,160 --> 03:35:37,160
It's a weird world. People living on the edge are doing some crazy stuff right now.

2626
03:35:37,160 --> 03:35:45,160
Yeah, it's interesting. I was looking into, I really want to have a local setup going.

2627
03:35:45,160 --> 03:35:48,160
And I was looking into building one and just RAM.

2628
03:35:48,160 --> 03:35:51,160
Holy God.

2629
03:35:51,160 --> 03:35:53,160
You can borrow mine.

2630
03:35:54,160 --> 03:35:58,160
It's like... If he wants the experience of setting it up, he doesn't

2631
03:35:58,160 --> 03:36:01,160
actually want to use it.

2632
03:36:01,160 --> 03:36:05,160
I feel called out as well.

2633
03:36:05,160 --> 03:36:08,160
That's the whole thing. That's like my whole life.

2634
03:36:08,160 --> 03:36:11,160
That's why we get each other.

2635
03:36:11,160 --> 03:36:14,160
Because I'm the kind of person who loves building gaming PCs

2636
03:36:14,160 --> 03:36:17,160
but doesn't actually game that much. You know?

2637
03:36:17,160 --> 03:36:21,160
All right. I see you. I didn't know Luke felt like that too.

2638
03:36:21,160 --> 03:36:25,160
I do want to use it but I'm not going to end up using it as much.

2639
03:36:25,160 --> 03:36:28,160
You're not going to use it. I'm not going to use it enough to justify it.

2640
03:36:28,160 --> 03:36:31,160
Hey, have you tried your big screen beyond yet?

2641
03:36:31,160 --> 03:36:37,160
No. Yeah, have you? But I looked into setting it up because the room that...

2642
03:36:37,160 --> 03:36:40,160
Okay, so the computers are in a different room now.

2643
03:36:40,160 --> 03:36:43,160
So where the base stations were set up is not where the

2644
03:36:43,160 --> 03:36:48,160
computers are anymore.

2645
03:36:48,160 --> 03:36:51,160
So I'm trying to figure out how to deal with that. Do it eventually.

2646
03:36:51,160 --> 03:36:56,160
Yeah, yeah. Who's going to do it? The new room that the computers are set up in, there is less space.

2647
03:36:56,160 --> 03:37:00,160
Who's going to do it? So I've been trying to figure out basically, is it worth it

2648
03:37:00,160 --> 03:37:03,160
to get another pair of base stations basically

2649
03:37:03,160 --> 03:37:07,160
and have base stations in there in the smaller room

2650
03:37:07,160 --> 03:37:10,160
that I can use at my desk with my computer?

2651
03:37:10,160 --> 03:37:13,160
Base stations? More like based stations.

2652
03:37:13,160 --> 03:37:17,160
What a solution. I love it. Or should I just put them up where they were

2653
03:37:17,160 --> 03:37:22,160
and then find some way to tether all the way into the other room?

2654
03:37:22,160 --> 03:37:25,160
Long range tether. Risky. Yeah.

2655
03:37:25,160 --> 03:37:30,160
And I don't want to have a separate box in that other room.

2656
03:37:30,160 --> 03:37:33,160
That sucks. Yeah, that's... RAM expensive.

2657
03:37:33,160 --> 03:37:36,160
Yeah. Just like as far as I can tell everyone else, I'd really

2658
03:37:36,160 --> 03:37:40,160
rather not build a computer right now.

2659
03:37:40,160 --> 03:37:43,160
So it's like, okay.

2660
03:37:43,160 --> 03:37:46,160
But yeah, the amount of available space in the room that

2661
03:37:46,160 --> 03:37:53,160
the computer is in now is kind of rough. So it's like, okay.

2662
03:37:53,160 --> 03:37:59,160
And another annoying thing. We asked them not to seal over the holes for the screws

2663
03:37:59,160 --> 03:38:03,160
where the base stations were. And they left one of them just fine, but they totally

2664
03:38:03,160 --> 03:38:06,160
sealed over the other one. So now you have to put a hole in your wall.

2665
03:38:06,160 --> 03:38:09,160
Yeah, two of them. Two holes. I think it's two.

2666
03:38:09,160 --> 03:38:15,160
Pretty sure it's two. Two holes. Do they make a half though?

2667
03:38:15,160 --> 03:38:18,160
Super long cable. That's what we were just saying. Bernardo Baruch, I'm fine.

2668
03:38:18,160 --> 03:38:21,160
This is not an injection site for my horrible addiction.

2669
03:38:21,160 --> 03:38:26,160
I just... That would be a kind of brutal spot.

2670
03:38:26,160 --> 03:38:31,160
Oh my God. I dived for an epic badminton return and it was amazing.

2671
03:38:31,160 --> 03:38:34,160
And I slid on my elbow.

2672
03:38:34,160 --> 03:38:40,160
Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. Don't do it at all, but especially not there.

2673
03:38:40,160 --> 03:38:44,160
I mean, you might not do it again.

2674
03:38:45,160 --> 03:38:48,160
Not medical advice. Yeah, that's true.

2675
03:38:48,160 --> 03:38:51,160
All right. Let's jump into After Dark. Are we at After Dark time?

2676
03:38:51,160 --> 03:38:54,160
Let's do it. I think so. Let's do this thing.

2677
03:38:54,160 --> 03:38:58,160
See, it's the common curse. You said it was going to be such an incredibly long show.

2678
03:38:58,160 --> 03:39:01,160
And now we're at After Dark before we were last time.

2679
03:39:01,160 --> 03:39:04,160
That's how it works. Oh yeah.

2680
03:39:04,160 --> 03:39:07,160
How'd that happen? Oh, the show's going to be really, really short this week.

2681
03:39:07,160 --> 03:39:10,160
And then it's... Yeah, what's up with that?

2682
03:39:10,160 --> 03:39:13,160
Every time you complain that there's no topics, it's a five hour show.

2683
03:39:13,160 --> 03:39:16,160
And every time there's too many topics, it's really fast.

2684
03:39:16,160 --> 03:39:21,160
I wonder if it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think maybe because you're trying to correct for...

2685
03:39:21,160 --> 03:39:24,160
Yeah. We're just too good at correcting for the amount of topics.

2686
03:39:24,160 --> 03:39:27,160
How many years have you guys been doing this?

2687
03:39:27,160 --> 03:39:31,160
At least one. Factually correct.

2688
03:39:31,160 --> 03:39:35,160
Yeah. All right. Let's see what we have for you today.

2689
03:39:35,160 --> 03:39:39,160
Hey, tall, tall and short. I hope it's a good news WAN Show.

2690
03:39:39,160 --> 03:39:46,160
You were correct. It's pretty nice. I'm trying to find a good recommendation for a CPU upgrade for my friend,

2691
03:39:46,160 --> 03:39:51,160
still on AM4 because 5800X3Ds are gone.

2692
03:39:51,160 --> 03:39:54,160
Are the XT CPUs worth upgrading?

2693
03:39:54,160 --> 03:39:57,160
In my opinion, no, not really.

2694
03:40:02,160 --> 03:40:05,160
Yeah, that's a tough one because on the one hand,

2695
03:40:05,160 --> 03:40:08,160
an AM4 chip is still good enough to game.

2696
03:40:08,160 --> 03:40:13,160
You're not giving up much as soon as you're up at 1440p

2697
03:40:13,160 --> 03:40:16,160
unless you have a God tier GPU.

2698
03:40:16,160 --> 03:40:22,160
So the good news is they're probably having a pretty good experience.

2699
03:40:22,160 --> 03:40:27,160
The bad news is that if they want to upgrade at this point,

2700
03:40:27,160 --> 03:40:33,160
their options are kind of limited without going for a full new platform,

2701
03:40:33,160 --> 03:40:39,160
which I would assume we're trying to avoid spending money on DDR5.

2702
03:40:39,160 --> 03:40:43,160
Yeah, this is a little off-topic, but that is one of the things I was looking into

2703
03:40:43,160 --> 03:40:48,160
is what is the most cranked processor I can get that's still DDR4?

2704
03:40:48,160 --> 03:40:51,160
Intel. Because the price saving is...

2705
03:40:51,160 --> 03:40:56,160
I was thinking 5950X, but I have not done very much looking into this.

2706
03:40:56,160 --> 03:41:01,160
I wouldn't want to spend that kind of money on an old platform.

2707
03:41:04,160 --> 03:41:08,160
So 5950X, you're spending $336,

2708
03:41:08,160 --> 03:41:13,160
and the bad news about that is you're not really getting much

2709
03:41:13,160 --> 03:41:16,160
out of the other eight cores from a gaming standpoint.

2710
03:41:16,160 --> 03:41:19,160
Oh, yeah. In my perspective, I'm not gaming.

2711
03:41:19,160 --> 03:41:22,160
Right. Yeah, so there you go.

2712
03:41:22,160 --> 03:41:27,160
I mean, this is... It's okay, but by the time I'm spending $300...

2713
03:41:27,160 --> 03:41:30,160
I wonder if these went up because of the whole RAM thing.

2714
03:41:31,160 --> 03:41:35,160
Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yeah, it's been a thing.

2715
03:41:35,160 --> 03:41:40,160
Hold on. Intel, what are the bloody new ones called?

2716
03:41:40,160 --> 03:41:45,160
I think it was ASRock or something. Did that like, oh, it's DDR5 and DDR4 on the same motherboard thing?

2717
03:41:45,160 --> 03:41:49,160
I wish they would just have the... I don't know, the cone is to just...

2718
03:41:49,160 --> 03:41:54,160
It's just DDR4. Whatever. Modern CPU, four slots, DDR4.

2719
03:41:54,160 --> 03:41:58,160
Go for it. $12700K is what Pankrats is recommending.

2720
03:41:58,160 --> 03:42:02,160
$12700K. Yeah. That's probably well...

2721
03:42:02,160 --> 03:42:06,160
Ooh, that's actually... Oh, that's a new price. Hold on.

2722
03:42:06,160 --> 03:42:09,160
Let me find it on eBay or something.

2723
03:42:09,160 --> 03:42:13,160
Where the bloody hell are the core Ultras, the new ones?

2724
03:42:13,160 --> 03:42:16,160
Oh, yeah, those are still... They're kind of...

2725
03:42:16,160 --> 03:42:21,160
Okay. Ooh, expensive. So by the time you're spending that kind of money,

2726
03:42:21,160 --> 03:42:25,160
this is a much faster chip.

2727
03:42:25,160 --> 03:42:32,160
And this guy. This guy is actually like kind of stellar for $220 bucks.

2728
03:42:32,160 --> 03:42:38,160
Those plus chips are pretty wicked. I wish building computers was like a thing that people were doing right now,

2729
03:42:38,160 --> 03:42:43,160
because it was so sad seeing that video like not just get like 2 million views

2730
03:42:43,160 --> 03:42:46,160
because everyone's so hyped on the new processors. Yeah, like that...

2731
03:42:46,160 --> 03:42:50,160
Dude, the core Ultra5 250K plus, awful name.

2732
03:42:50,160 --> 03:42:53,160
Pretty exciting chip.

2733
03:42:53,160 --> 03:42:56,160
Yeah. And just no one can afford RAM.

2734
03:42:56,160 --> 03:43:04,160
Yeah. But by the time I've saved $100 compared to that 5950X, right?

2735
03:43:04,160 --> 03:43:08,160
Because I'm getting 18 cores. Yeah, not all of them are performance cores or whatever,

2736
03:43:08,160 --> 03:43:11,160
but I'm getting 18 cores now instead of 16 cores.

2737
03:43:11,160 --> 03:43:16,160
Like let's have a look at 16 gigs DDR5.

2738
03:43:16,160 --> 03:43:19,160
Remember, I just saved $100. Yeah.

2739
03:43:19,160 --> 03:43:22,160
So yeah, it's $220 for DDR5,

2740
03:43:22,160 --> 03:43:25,160
but I can probably sell my DDR4 for some money.

2741
03:43:25,160 --> 03:43:29,160
And now all of a sudden I'm... Okay, now I'm getting like a whole platform upgrade.

2742
03:43:29,160 --> 03:43:40,160
I'm moving to PCA Gen 5. I just by design it feels like AMD by no longer producing X3D chips for the AM4 platform

2743
03:43:40,160 --> 03:43:49,160
is kind of undercutting what was supposed to be one of the promises of that platform

2744
03:43:49,160 --> 03:43:53,160
is having that upgrade path. And in some ways it's not AMD's fault

2745
03:43:53,160 --> 03:43:57,160
because they had no way of knowing that the second hand market for these X3D chips

2746
03:43:57,160 --> 03:44:00,160
was going to go absolutely besonkers. Yeah.

2747
03:44:00,160 --> 03:44:04,160
But on the other hand, they totally probably could make X3D chips

2748
03:44:04,160 --> 03:44:09,160
and then AM4 users who didn't go X3D earlier would have an upgrade path.

2749
03:44:09,160 --> 03:44:12,160
But you can see, it's one of those funny things.

2750
03:44:12,160 --> 03:44:18,160
It's like back when I bought a minivan and I realized that it wasn't cheaper to buy a used one

2751
03:44:18,160 --> 03:44:23,160
per sort of usable remaining low maintenance life

2752
03:44:23,160 --> 03:44:26,160
because everyone had made the same spreadsheet that I did.

2753
03:44:26,160 --> 03:44:31,160
Yeah. In the same way, everyone has access to the same performance data that I do

2754
03:44:31,160 --> 03:44:35,160
and that you do and is doing the same calculation going,

2755
03:44:35,160 --> 03:44:38,160
okay, how do we position our products so that they're like,

2756
03:44:38,160 --> 03:44:42,160
you know, these ones are pretty okay, but what you really want is this one.

2757
03:44:42,160 --> 03:44:46,160
And so they're looking at RAM pricing. They're balancing that against how much their CPUs cost

2758
03:44:46,160 --> 03:44:51,160
and their motherboard's cost and they're trying to make it. They're trying to make the one they want you to buy more compelling

2759
03:44:51,160 --> 03:44:57,160
and the one they don't want you to buy less compelling. So that's probably the route that I would go right now

2760
03:44:57,160 --> 03:45:03,160
if you were looking for a serious upgrade on AM4 and X3D is not really an option.

2761
03:45:03,160 --> 03:45:06,160
And Pankrat's advice is pretty good.

2762
03:45:06,160 --> 03:45:09,160
What do you say, $12,700K? Yeah.

2763
03:45:09,160 --> 03:45:15,160
That's a really solid option as well. I'm just, I'm a little worried that while we are saving some money

2764
03:45:15,160 --> 03:45:19,160
by sticking with the DDR4, we're changing our motherboard and we're changing our CPU

2765
03:45:19,160 --> 03:45:23,160
and I'm not sure if we're getting enough of an upgrade for that in-game.

2766
03:45:23,160 --> 03:45:26,160
I think it's really going to depend on your local market too.

2767
03:45:26,160 --> 03:45:33,160
That, yeah, 100%. Yeah. And what's nice about my option of going DDR5 now,

2768
03:45:33,160 --> 03:45:39,160
even though like that sucks, is that DDR4 is also benefiting from the Rampock ellipse in terms of its value.

2769
03:45:39,160 --> 03:45:43,160
So the fact that you have some DDR4 helps take a little bit of a bite

2770
03:45:43,160 --> 03:45:46,160
out of that DDR5 upgrade. Yeah.

2771
03:45:48,160 --> 03:45:50,160
All right, hit me, Dan.

2772
03:45:52,160 --> 03:45:56,160
Hi, LLD. My dad has been stealing my screwdriver a lot lately,

2773
03:45:56,160 --> 03:45:59,160
so I'm getting one for his birthday. Nice.

2774
03:45:59,160 --> 03:46:02,160
What is your favorite present that you have received from your kids

2775
03:46:02,160 --> 03:46:06,160
or your parents from you? Oh, wow, favorite present from my kids.

2776
03:46:06,160 --> 03:46:09,160
There's a really cute one they made me.

2777
03:46:09,160 --> 03:46:14,160
They made me an iPad that was like a little,

2778
03:46:14,160 --> 03:46:17,160
not like a pop-up book,

2779
03:46:17,160 --> 03:46:21,160
but like a lift-the-flap thing.

2780
03:46:21,160 --> 03:46:26,160
So it has a whole bunch of apps on it. And then in each app, they wrote something nice under it.

2781
03:46:26,160 --> 03:46:29,160
That's cool. It's really cute. Yvonne helped them make it.

2782
03:46:29,160 --> 03:46:36,160
Oh, you know what? There was another really good one they did for me. They made me pajamas that had vinyl iron-on things of just things I like.

2783
03:46:36,160 --> 03:46:39,160
So it has like a badminton racket on it and like a cat

2784
03:46:39,160 --> 03:46:42,160
and like a bunch of just like kind of random stuff like that.

2785
03:46:42,160 --> 03:46:50,160
I wore those into the crown. Usually Yvonne is the actual driver of the stuff that my kids give me that I really like.

2786
03:46:50,160 --> 03:46:53,160
That makes sense. I don't need anything from my kids.

2787
03:46:53,160 --> 03:46:58,160
Their smile when I walk in the door is like realistically all I ever hope to need from them.

2788
03:46:58,160 --> 03:47:01,160
Hallmark card. Sorry? Hallmark card.

2789
03:47:01,160 --> 03:47:04,160
I don't want a Hallmark card. It sounds like what's on a Hallmark card.

2790
03:47:04,160 --> 03:47:12,160
Oh, sure. I'd rather have nothing than like spending, wasting $6 so much on a card 13.

2791
03:47:12,160 --> 03:47:16,160
I don't know how much a Hallmark card costs. They're insane.

2792
03:47:16,160 --> 03:47:18,160
It's so stupid. No dog.

2793
03:47:21,160 --> 03:47:24,160
I'm going to hear about saying that, but I stand by it. They're ridiculous.

2794
03:47:28,160 --> 03:47:32,160
I don't know if it's necessarily my favorite, but one of a very memorable one for me is,

2795
03:47:32,160 --> 03:47:36,160
you know, when you turn 16, at least up here, there's a lot of conversations around like,

2796
03:47:36,160 --> 03:47:38,160
are your parents going to get you a car?

2797
03:47:40,160 --> 03:47:45,160
That was not going to be a thing for us, but my dad bought me.

2798
03:47:45,160 --> 03:47:48,160
It's supposed to be a gift from you two, your parents.

2799
03:47:52,160 --> 03:47:55,160
Hallmark card. No, I've got some cool ones.

2800
03:47:55,160 --> 03:47:58,160
I'm trying to think of like, what's the...

2801
03:47:58,160 --> 03:48:01,160
I mean, I think the one you did this year was really cool.

2802
03:48:04,160 --> 03:48:09,160
Did I talk about that? I mean, it's up to you. It's over now, so no one's going to harass you there.

2803
03:48:11,160 --> 03:48:18,160
Lord of the Rings was like a huge thing for my family. Like my mom has a huge like chest of memorabilia from back then.

2804
03:48:18,160 --> 03:48:21,160
We won some like call-in contests that I think you had to like,

2805
03:48:21,160 --> 03:48:24,160
know details with the movies or something to try to win,

2806
03:48:24,160 --> 03:48:27,160
to get us an advanced screening for, I believe it was two towers.

2807
03:48:27,160 --> 03:48:30,160
I won that. I think I brought my mom.

2808
03:48:31,160 --> 03:48:37,160
I think it was, sorry, I said it the other way around. It was my mom and I that went, I think it was, I think I won it.

2809
03:48:37,160 --> 03:48:43,160
Anyways, whatever. Very, very, very into Lord of the Rings and they had a 25-year

2810
03:48:43,160 --> 03:48:50,160
anniversary thing this year and the Hobbits and the actor for

2811
03:48:50,160 --> 03:48:54,160
Gimli and the actor for Faramir were all going to be there

2812
03:48:54,160 --> 03:48:59,160
and you could do like meet and greets and photos and stuff. And I got everybody tickets to go there and like meet people

2813
03:48:59,160 --> 03:49:04,160
and whatnot. And it's interesting. I think I talked about that a little bit on the show here,

2814
03:49:04,160 --> 03:49:09,160
but it's interesting how it kind of went.

2815
03:49:10,160 --> 03:49:15,160
Yeah, I know it wasn't how you expected. No, I mean the show was terribly ran.

2816
03:49:15,160 --> 03:49:18,160
It was actually like kind of fascinating how poorly the show was ran.

2817
03:49:18,160 --> 03:49:21,160
I talked to, there was somebody there. I don't remember his name right now.

2818
03:49:21,160 --> 03:49:26,160
I hope I gave him a shout out last time I talked about it, but there was somebody there that like really helped our

2819
03:49:26,160 --> 03:49:30,160
experience not be really terrible, which was awesome.

2820
03:49:31,160 --> 03:49:34,160
Oh, someone in chat said John Rhys Davies is a bundle of joy.

2821
03:49:34,160 --> 03:49:40,160
Yeah, he was like amazing. And from watching the movies, Gimli is like one of my least

2822
03:49:40,160 --> 03:49:43,160
favorite characters because he's like very definitely just

2823
03:49:43,160 --> 03:49:46,160
used his comedic relief most of the time.

2824
03:49:46,160 --> 03:49:50,160
I actually appreciate him in the movies way more now because

2825
03:49:50,160 --> 03:49:53,160
I've met John Rhys Davies in real life and I'm like,

2826
03:49:53,160 --> 03:49:59,160
oh, he's just kind of like that. When we were all taking photos, he was like tickling people to

2827
03:49:59,160 --> 03:50:04,160
try to get them to laugh. And he'd like get really happy if he got you.

2828
03:50:04,160 --> 03:50:07,160
He'd be like, it was very funny.

2829
03:50:07,160 --> 03:50:12,160
That's fun. And yeah, like you have to toss me scene.

2830
03:50:12,160 --> 03:50:16,160
It's so good. Felt a lot more like real after meeting him too.

2831
03:50:16,160 --> 03:50:19,160
Right. Like it feels less acted. That's just kind of what he's like.

2832
03:50:19,160 --> 03:50:23,160
Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome.

2833
03:50:23,160 --> 03:50:28,160
Yeah, that's probably one of my, I like that one more.

2834
03:50:29,160 --> 03:50:34,160
Yeah. I thought that one was awesome. Yeah, it was pretty sweet.

2835
03:50:34,160 --> 03:50:37,160
Up next, two quests.

2836
03:50:37,160 --> 03:50:40,160
Linus, what is your strategy to keep your mind sharp?

2837
03:50:40,160 --> 03:50:43,160
What do you do? Diet, reading, sleep?

2838
03:50:43,160 --> 03:50:46,160
We know about exercise, but what else do you do?

2839
03:50:46,160 --> 03:50:49,160
And Luke, when's the chicken recipe? Help a bro.

2840
03:50:49,160 --> 03:50:52,160
It's on Floatplane. It is. It is.

2841
03:50:52,160 --> 03:50:55,160
You can find it. LMG.GG slash Floatplane. Not only gives you the recipe, he makes it.

2842
03:50:55,160 --> 03:50:58,160
Yep. So he shows you how to do it. Keep my mind sharp.

2843
03:50:58,160 --> 03:51:03,160
I mean, is it sharp?

2844
03:51:03,160 --> 03:51:07,160
You'd be honest, right? Yeah, I think so.

2845
03:51:07,160 --> 03:51:12,160
It's the same answer that I give everyone when they ask me something like this.

2846
03:51:12,160 --> 03:51:17,160
You know, how did you work so hard in the early days of LMG?

2847
03:51:17,160 --> 03:51:20,160
And how do you do this? And how did you succeed?

2848
03:51:20,160 --> 03:51:24,160
How did you do that? I don't have a choice.

2849
03:51:25,160 --> 03:51:30,160
I get home at the end of the day and I have a splitting headache very often because you

2850
03:51:30,160 --> 03:51:35,160
can only, you can, it's a weird thing because it doesn't seem intuitive.

2851
03:51:35,160 --> 03:51:41,160
Your brain's not a muscle, but it does, in my experience, it does wear out.

2852
03:51:41,160 --> 03:51:48,160
I, like, my brain gets really tired and there are certain things that make it more tired

2853
03:51:48,160 --> 03:51:53,160
than other things, but when you run a business, you can't avoid those things.

2854
03:51:53,160 --> 03:52:01,160
You don't really have that luxury of, like, this task is not good for my mental health.

2855
03:52:01,160 --> 03:52:07,160
You get, fortunately, a lot of support if you have a good team and I do, but at the

2856
03:52:07,160 --> 03:52:12,160
end of the day, you can't just, like, hide from things.

2857
03:52:12,160 --> 03:52:15,160
And if you do, they tend to snowball and get bigger.

2858
03:52:15,160 --> 03:52:21,160
And we've had those experiences many times over the years where we've tried to avoid a

2859
03:52:21,160 --> 03:52:25,160
problem and, ultimately, it has turned into a much bigger problem.

2860
03:52:25,160 --> 03:52:28,160
No choice.

2861
03:52:28,160 --> 03:52:32,160
Power through it. Terrible advice.

2862
03:52:32,160 --> 03:52:37,160
You know, not great for self-care, but how do I do it like that?

2863
03:52:37,160 --> 03:52:40,160
Yeah, sometimes you just got to do it.

2864
03:52:40,160 --> 03:52:43,160
For a bit of a slight jump back, this is it.

2865
03:52:43,160 --> 03:52:49,160
If you're looking for it, there's your title. I do, I do read.

2866
03:52:49,160 --> 03:52:52,160
I try to sleep. I often am not able to sleep anymore.

2867
03:52:52,160 --> 03:52:56,160
I don't know if it's, like, just age or stress or kids or whatever it is.

2868
03:52:56,160 --> 03:53:06,160
Sleep has been really rough for me. I try to not eat total garbage, although I had a really, I had the worst cheat day that I can remember.

2869
03:53:06,160 --> 03:53:09,160
Are you doing that thing I recommended?

2870
03:53:09,160 --> 03:53:12,160
Oh, I've tried the ultra-filtered milk. Okay.

2871
03:53:12,160 --> 03:53:15,160
It doesn't taste that great. That isn't what I was talking about, but okay.

2872
03:53:15,160 --> 03:53:18,160
Oh, the powder? Yeah. I haven't tried that yet.

2873
03:53:19,160 --> 03:53:22,160
No, no, no, no. No, I'm talking like cheat day.

2874
03:53:22,160 --> 03:53:26,160
No, I was just, that was a different thought. So I went down for a little workshop.

2875
03:53:26,160 --> 03:53:31,160
Buddy of mine, Danny's badminton guy, but he runs a paint shop.

2876
03:53:31,160 --> 03:53:35,160
Jake actually introduced us of all people. And so he runs like a paint spray shop.

2877
03:53:35,160 --> 03:53:43,160
And after my terrible experience painting my bike, he was like chatting with me and was like,

2878
03:53:43,160 --> 03:53:47,160
oh yeah, I could like maybe like show you how to paint some stuff.

2879
03:53:47,160 --> 03:53:50,160
And I was like, oh yeah, I could get like a care package of merch for your son.

2880
03:53:50,160 --> 03:53:56,160
His son's really into the channel. Anyway, we figured out a deal and Danny's a super nice guy, very generous with his time.

2881
03:53:56,160 --> 03:54:03,160
He's come out and run a couple of like badminton reddit group meetups at our badminton club.

2882
03:54:03,160 --> 03:54:09,160
The world is so small and you never know what kind of connection you're going to make by just like being nice to people.

2883
03:54:09,160 --> 03:54:14,160
So anyway, we've, so we've done a few things together and he offered to help me figure out my paint gun.

2884
03:54:14,160 --> 03:54:19,160
So that if I ever try to tackle something like that again, I maybe will be somewhat competent this time.

2885
03:54:19,160 --> 03:54:22,160
It won't take two and a half years.

2886
03:54:22,160 --> 03:54:26,160
Anyway, I was on my way back from that really nice little session.

2887
03:54:26,160 --> 03:54:32,160
I've learned a lot and I was like, oh, is Krispy Kreme still open?

2888
03:54:32,160 --> 03:54:35,160
And unfortunately it was.

2889
03:54:35,160 --> 03:54:38,160
So. Linus has a thing for Krispy Kreme.

2890
03:54:38,160 --> 03:54:45,160
Myself, a dozen of the Krispy Kreme original glaze that evening.

2891
03:54:45,160 --> 03:54:52,160
It was probably the most perfectly baked batch of Krispy Kreme donuts that I have ever eaten.

2892
03:54:52,160 --> 03:54:55,160
The glazing was perfect. Not too much sugar.

2893
03:54:55,160 --> 03:54:59,160
Like the bottom still had no sugar, but it was like down the sides.

2894
03:54:59,160 --> 03:55:12,160
So it wasn't like too sweet. But the lightest, chewiest, like it was, I ate eight of them that evening and for the next morning, three and a half.

2895
03:55:12,160 --> 03:55:15,160
My daughters caught me up with the last one in my hand.

2896
03:55:15,160 --> 03:55:18,160
They were like, are the rest of them gone?

2897
03:55:18,160 --> 03:55:25,160
Are there any for us? Because I had intended to share them.

2898
03:55:25,160 --> 03:55:29,160
I don't know how they make something that has so many calories in it.

2899
03:55:29,160 --> 03:55:32,160
Taste so light.

2900
03:55:32,160 --> 03:55:39,160
It's incredible. And I even, I went really late at night thinking, oh, it's probably going to be like a crappy batch from like many hours ago.

2901
03:55:39,160 --> 03:55:43,160
But it was like the freshest, perfectest batch of Krispy Kreme I ever had.

2902
03:55:43,160 --> 03:55:48,160
I just, oh man, it was so good.

2903
03:55:48,160 --> 03:55:53,160
It was so good. That's pretty sweet. So I cheated like super hard earlier this week.

2904
03:55:53,160 --> 03:55:58,160
And then I punished myself on the Stairmaster.

2905
03:55:58,160 --> 03:56:02,160
I'm, I think I'm, I think I'm pinch test.

2906
03:56:02,160 --> 03:56:05,160
Okay today. So it wasn't that bad. Yeah.

2907
03:56:05,160 --> 03:56:08,160
Pinch test. Yeah. Pinch test.

2908
03:56:08,160 --> 03:56:15,160
There's like, dude, be, I'm, I'm closing in on 40. And there's like, there's like front flap that just won't go away anymore.

2909
03:56:15,160 --> 03:56:18,160
You just started to carry more weight. It just sucks, man.

2910
03:56:18,160 --> 03:56:24,160
It sucks.

2911
03:56:24,160 --> 03:56:29,160
That's life though. I've been losing decently, consistently lately.

2912
03:56:29,160 --> 03:56:33,160
I started with the knee problems. I sent you a little video of it.

2913
03:56:33,160 --> 03:56:37,160
I started the, the treadmill walks again.

2914
03:56:37,160 --> 03:56:41,160
I have like a full D treadmill that can unfold and go under my desk.

2915
03:56:41,160 --> 03:56:47,160
And that's been pretty good. Part of that is just getting back into the habit of remembering to do that.

2916
03:56:47,160 --> 03:56:54,160
That is annoying because like, I'll just be so lasered in on work or whatever that

2917
03:56:54,160 --> 03:56:58,160
I just forget to switch.

2918
03:56:58,160 --> 03:57:03,160
But then once it's going, I can stay on it for a while.

2919
03:57:03,160 --> 03:57:06,160
190 calories is no big deal, but 12.

2920
03:57:06,160 --> 03:57:09,160
Yeah. No, no. Dan was saying it's only 190.

2921
03:57:09,160 --> 03:57:14,160
Yeah. Yeah. I was just in chat clarifying it's 190 each.

2922
03:57:14,160 --> 03:57:17,160
Yes. Yes. It's only 190 each.

2923
03:57:17,160 --> 03:57:20,160
That's actually way better than I would have expected.

2924
03:57:20,160 --> 03:57:23,160
Me too. Let's see. McDouble gallery.

2925
03:57:23,160 --> 03:57:26,160
If you get a McDouble, it's 400 calories.

2926
03:57:26,160 --> 03:57:32,160
Yeah. So I sat down and I ate four McDoubles in one sitting, which is, that's not good.

2927
03:57:32,160 --> 03:57:35,160
Oh no. We're not, I'm not saying it's good. Okay.

2928
03:57:35,160 --> 03:57:39,160
Like, okay. If you had one. Dan seems to be trying to, it seems to be trying to rationalize my terrible behavior.

2929
03:57:39,160 --> 03:57:45,160
Like how much is it? No, no. I was surprised that like a donut is not McDonald's.

2930
03:57:45,160 --> 03:57:49,160
That's crazy. Milk shake. Oh, those are like a thousand.

2931
03:57:49,160 --> 03:57:53,160
I tried to go with medium to be, to be pretty chill.

2932
03:57:53,160 --> 03:57:57,160
750 calories for a medium milkshake from McDonald's.

2933
03:57:57,160 --> 03:58:00,160
Yeah. Milkshakes are brutal. I love milkshakes.

2934
03:58:00,160 --> 03:58:03,160
What about like a, what about like a fries?

2935
03:58:03,160 --> 03:58:06,720
But I just, I almost never do it anymore.

2936
03:58:06,720 --> 03:58:11,280
Sometimes I will share a milkshake with Yvonne if she has one, but I just, I can't.

2937
03:58:11,280 --> 03:58:15,660
A medium fries is 350 calories from, and like who's getting medium.

2938
03:58:15,660 --> 03:58:19,200
So we're talking 560 calories for a large fries from McDonald's.

2939
03:58:19,200 --> 03:58:23,000
And this is a Canadian one. I'm sure the American size is bigger. Wouldn't be too surprised.

2940
03:58:23,000 --> 03:58:28,840
So, so it's like, for, you know, for that many fries, you get a few donuts in there.

2941
03:58:28,840 --> 03:58:32,840
Yep. Yep. And I would, I think I would take three Krispy Kreme donuts.

2942
03:58:32,840 --> 03:58:36,720
I would thousand percent take three Krispy Kreme's over, I think, oh, oh, McDonald's fries.

2943
03:58:36,720 --> 03:58:40,720
Okay. If they're freshly fried though.

2944
03:58:41,520 --> 03:58:44,920
You guys have heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times on this show.

2945
03:58:44,920 --> 03:58:51,320
Oh, sorry. Sorry. AJ, not, not our AJ, but, but full-point chat AJ said, I run an ice cream parlor.

2946
03:58:51,320 --> 03:58:55,200
Our brownie Sunday is 1600 calories.

2947
03:58:55,200 --> 03:58:58,200
That's insane. Holy crap. That's insane.

2948
03:58:58,200 --> 03:59:04,000
These numbers, like the fries and the milkshake and that are all why I'm saying like, oh,

2949
03:59:04,000 --> 03:59:09,540
it's like surprising that it's only 190 eating 12 of them is.

2950
03:59:09,580 --> 03:59:15,260
Inserving of McDonald's plain hamburger bun is 150 calories.

2951
03:59:15,260 --> 03:59:19,260
This is what I'm saying. It's actually very surprising. That's nuts.

2952
03:59:19,260 --> 03:59:22,900
Probably cause I think the, it's, it's a cake one, right?

2953
03:59:22,900 --> 03:59:25,900
So it's mostly like kind of air. It's pretty airy.

2954
03:59:25,900 --> 03:59:28,900
Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty airy.

2955
03:59:28,900 --> 03:59:31,900
I haven't had one of those. Most of it probably comes from sugar. Sugar.

2956
03:59:31,900 --> 03:59:39,420
So rather than like fat. Yeah. Anyway, you've heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times, but I am a fry enjoyer.

2957
03:59:39,780 --> 03:59:45,140
McDonald's fries are, dude, when the fresh McDonald's fries.

2958
03:59:45,140 --> 03:59:49,580
Pretty good. Yeah. I'll just, I'll eat them without even thinking about it.

2959
03:59:49,580 --> 03:59:55,300
I can't have them within reach, like our kids don't eat McDonald's much, but when we

2960
03:59:55,300 --> 03:59:59,700
do get it, I have to just put the fries in the back where I can't reach them because

2961
03:59:59,700 --> 04:00:05,380
I'll just eat them all and they won't even get any.

2962
04:00:05,380 --> 04:00:10,900
What is the correct price and your opinion for a hybrid motorcycle?

2963
04:00:10,900 --> 04:00:15,500
What kind of miles per gallon or liters per kilometer target should it hit?

2964
04:00:15,500 --> 04:00:20,740
Should it be feet forward or standard or sit it scooter style?

2965
04:00:20,740 --> 04:00:24,900
That is totally. Those are a lot of. Up to you.

2966
04:00:24,900 --> 04:00:30,660
Personally, I do not have nor do I have any interest in a hybrid motorcycle.

2967
04:00:30,660 --> 04:00:40,260
I, I like my old crappy 23 year old bike from 2003.

2968
04:00:40,260 --> 04:00:46,060
It makes motorsports noises, which makes me happy, which normally I don't care about.

2969
04:00:46,060 --> 04:00:50,220
I don't care about it for my go cart. I don't care about it for my full sized car.

2970
04:00:50,220 --> 04:00:57,100
I just don't care about like, like that type of engagement with the vehicle anywhere except

2971
04:00:57,100 --> 04:01:04,120
my motorcycle. And the efficiency for me of a motorcycle is a lot less important than the efficiency

2972
04:01:04,120 --> 04:01:09,820
of a car in my life or a much larger vehicle in my life.

2973
04:01:09,820 --> 04:01:13,380
Like it just, it's so small and it consumes so little fuel.

2974
04:01:13,380 --> 04:01:20,740
Like a van, right? Like a, like a Honda Odyssey, like a much larger vehicle like that.

2975
04:01:20,740 --> 04:01:25,540
And so I just, I can't, I can't care too much about that.

2976
04:01:25,540 --> 04:01:31,220
I also never ride very far. So comfort is not a major concern.

2977
04:01:31,220 --> 04:01:36,100
So I, I'm on like the street bike. I'm like all folded over the handlebars and stuff.

2978
04:01:36,100 --> 04:01:40,380
I'm the wrong person to ask is what I'm trying to say right now, because the way I use my

2979
04:01:40,380 --> 04:01:45,820
bike is just completely unaligned with your very practical concerns.

2980
04:01:45,820 --> 04:01:52,980
And I'm so sorry to give you such a non answer, but at least it was a thorough and long one.

2981
04:01:52,980 --> 04:01:57,580
That's all that matters in the end. Aloha LDL from Hawaii.

2982
04:01:57,580 --> 04:02:00,940
What is your best component overheating story?

2983
04:02:00,940 --> 04:02:05,380
My 6950 was hitting 114 due to cheap thermal paste.

2984
04:02:05,380 --> 04:02:08,380
Oops. Thanks for selling PTM7950. Yikes.

2985
04:02:08,380 --> 04:02:12,820
Um, I haven't really had a lot of tons of problems with it.

2986
04:02:12,820 --> 04:02:17,140
Computer overheating story. I mean, I've definitely had some issues.

2987
04:02:17,140 --> 04:02:23,620
There's been, I mean, I mean, there's the multiple times that I've accidentally boiled

2988
04:02:23,620 --> 04:02:30,500
water in a loop and therefore caused it to build pressure and explode tubing off of the

2989
04:02:30,500 --> 04:02:35,780
fittings. Like that's, that's a thing because you run so many test benches, you're just like putting

2990
04:02:35,780 --> 04:02:41,900
things together quickly. So if you don't have the fans running on a radiator because you know, whatever, if it

2991
04:02:41,900 --> 04:02:49,060
runs for long enough, the coolant will get hot, maybe not, maybe not like boiling, boiling,

2992
04:02:49,060 --> 04:02:54,780
but enough that you're getting pressure buildup. And uh, and I've had that happen before.

2993
04:02:54,780 --> 04:02:58,500
I don't remember the specifics around it, but it's funny.

2994
04:02:58,500 --> 04:03:04,260
I think, I think everything lived. I think it's happened a couple of times. I don't think I've ever actually killed anything like that because as long as it's clean water

2995
04:03:04,260 --> 04:03:11,300
and you get it off right away and you turn, cut the power, uh, you can actually, uh, hardware

2996
04:03:11,300 --> 04:03:16,980
is very survivable. Like that Coke, uh, that Coke video we did where we spilled Coke on the running machine

2997
04:03:16,980 --> 04:03:20,140
and then we like cleaned it all and turned it back on. We didn't stage that.

2998
04:03:20,140 --> 04:03:23,740
We did fake stuff that happened. It all lived.

2999
04:03:23,740 --> 04:03:33,140
Yeah. So when posted, uh, when Bingo Chronified posted that the MacBook Neo is funny, you had a single

3000
04:03:33,140 --> 04:03:36,740
thermal pad and benchmarks go up 30%. Yeah.

3001
04:03:36,740 --> 04:03:39,780
Uh, was it Optimum Tech that did it? Someone did it.

3002
04:03:39,780 --> 04:03:43,420
Sorry. Um, and it's, it's a little more complicated than that.

3003
04:03:43,420 --> 04:03:49,020
I haven't actually watched Optimum's video, um, but I do know ETA prime, sorry, ETA prime

3004
04:03:49,020 --> 04:03:55,460
did it. So I haven't watched ETA prime's video and, uh, so I don't know exactly how they did it.

3005
04:03:55,460 --> 04:04:00,220
What I suspect is that it's really similar to the mod that we did back on the M1 MacBook

3006
04:04:00,220 --> 04:04:04,440
way back in the day where you're just using the bottom of the chassis as a heat sink.

3007
04:04:04,440 --> 04:04:11,300
So it's not just as simple as Apple is herder, too stupid to, to put cooling in their machine.

3008
04:04:11,300 --> 04:04:14,980
I mean, there's clearly a little bit of that, but it's not that they were too cheap to put

3009
04:04:14,980 --> 04:04:20,780
in a thermal pad. It's that Apple has to follow guidelines for how hot the skin temperatures of the device

3010
04:04:20,780 --> 04:04:27,020
can get. So they're not allowed to just put the CPU or SOC as it were, heat directly into the

3011
04:04:27,020 --> 04:04:32,140
bottom of the chassis because they would exceed those safe temperatures if it was sitting

3012
04:04:32,140 --> 04:04:37,140
on your lap. It sounds like Alex actually, Oh, did they do that too?

3013
04:04:37,140 --> 04:04:40,700
Mr. Zip Tie Tech just threw in a thermal pad. That's cool.

3014
04:04:40,700 --> 04:04:44,580
Um, I haven't watched the video, but you got a bunch of views on it.

3015
04:04:44,580 --> 04:04:49,900
Yeah. Cool. Um, mess around with some cooling.

3016
04:04:49,900 --> 04:04:53,740
I don't know where it's at in the video, but you guys will have to just check it out. Nice.

3017
04:04:53,740 --> 04:04:56,740
It gets a cooling upgrade here.

3018
04:04:56,740 --> 04:05:00,980
Well, you guys should go watch the video.

3019
04:05:00,980 --> 04:05:03,980
We're not going to. Yeah. I'm just looking at it myself.

3020
04:05:03,980 --> 04:05:13,100
But yeah, that's, that's pretty sweet. I saw probably without this cooling upgrade that people were getting, you know, with settings

3021
04:05:13,100 --> 04:05:16,740
pretty low and whatnot, but above 30 FPS and cyberpunk.

3022
04:05:16,740 --> 04:05:19,740
It's pretty cool. Just pretty nuts. All right.

3023
04:05:19,740 --> 04:05:29,140
Dan, want to hit us with another? No. No, I don't think I have that much interest in getting it working.

3024
04:05:29,140 --> 04:05:33,180
I, I did watch someone else's video getting one of them working.

3025
04:05:33,180 --> 04:05:39,180
It's highly involved. Um, it's, it's not as simple as just talking about cause he was muted.

3026
04:05:39,180 --> 04:05:43,460
So what, what device? Uh, nomad mp3 player from the dank pods collab video.

3027
04:05:43,460 --> 04:05:47,460
Yeah. We're, we're not fixing that. It's just, I don't care that much about it.

3028
04:05:47,460 --> 04:05:51,780
I'm so sorry to the nomad enthusiasts who wish that we were fixing it.

3029
04:05:51,780 --> 04:05:55,940
I double pressed a couple more here. Hello Linus.

3030
04:05:55,940 --> 04:06:01,860
When your kids had a pure toddler meltdown, how did you and approach that?

3031
04:06:01,860 --> 04:06:05,260
And did you de-stress afterwards? De-stress?

3032
04:06:05,260 --> 04:06:08,380
De-stress, I think they mean. Yeah.

3033
04:06:08,580 --> 04:06:13,380
Uh, pure toddler meltdown is one of those things that if you handle it right, you have

3034
04:06:13,380 --> 04:06:22,900
to handle it only a few times. And um, the bottom line is that you can only give positive reinforcement for behaviors that

3035
04:06:22,900 --> 04:06:30,540
you want to see again. So if a meltdown gets the slice of cake, you will see that behavior over and over and

3036
04:06:30,540 --> 04:06:40,060
over and over again. And if a meltdown gets you seated on a bench outside the restaurant where you are within

3037
04:06:40,060 --> 04:06:46,900
eye shot, but not allowed to participate, it might even be a little cold that night.

3038
04:06:46,900 --> 04:06:53,860
You're less likely to see it again. And we, we did have to go through meltdowns with all of our kids at one stage or another.

3039
04:06:53,860 --> 04:06:56,860
And sometimes those battles literally took hours.

3040
04:06:56,860 --> 04:07:01,660
I think I've told the story on Wancho before of the time that I was in an Ikea cafeteria

3041
04:07:01,660 --> 04:07:07,260
for, I think it was a total of three cycles of other people starting and finishing their

3042
04:07:07,260 --> 04:07:12,460
meals while I sat there battling it out with this crying child over that I had said you

3043
04:07:12,460 --> 04:07:15,860
have to take one more bite. And she said, no.

3044
04:07:15,860 --> 04:07:19,660
And I said, you don't understand.

3045
04:07:19,660 --> 04:07:28,060
You will take another bite. And after that, there was no question because when I said, and literally I brought this

3046
04:07:28,060 --> 04:07:34,260
up the next time we had a battle over food is I said, you have to eat this broccoli.

3047
04:07:34,260 --> 04:07:38,820
And she said, no. And I said, okay, well, we can do it the way where you take the bite now and you eat the

3048
04:07:38,820 --> 04:07:43,700
broccoli now, or we can do it the way we did at Ikea where you sat there and you cried

3049
04:07:43,700 --> 04:07:48,020
for an hour and a half or two hours or whatever it was.

3050
04:07:48,020 --> 04:07:54,820
And you did take the bite. So how do you want to do it?

3051
04:07:54,820 --> 04:08:02,380
Can I go now? Yes. The tough part is you've got to be, you've got to keep your cool.

3052
04:08:02,380 --> 04:08:10,300
You have to be good on the other end of it. You have to be, you have to keep your cool in the moment because if you lose it and you

3053
04:08:10,300 --> 04:08:15,540
threaten something that you're not willing to follow through on or that you shouldn't

3054
04:08:15,540 --> 04:08:21,580
follow through on, you've completely, you've completely broken the system.

3055
04:08:21,580 --> 04:08:26,420
You have to stay controlled and you have to only threaten things that are reasonable

3056
04:08:26,540 --> 04:08:28,060
and that you will follow through on.

3057
04:08:29,900 --> 04:08:30,900
Yeah, so man, it's tough.

3058
04:08:33,700 --> 04:08:36,180
Last one I got for you today, question for Luke.

3059
04:08:36,740 --> 04:08:42,980
You mentioned Forza Horizon earlier. And I'm wondering if you've played any of the older Forza Horizon games.

3060
04:08:43,220 --> 04:08:45,700
Two and three are still some of my favorite games.

3061
04:08:46,260 --> 04:08:51,140
No, I've thought about going back, actually, because there was, I think I

3062
04:08:51,140 --> 04:08:55,660
originally wanted to get into Forza because of drifting. And then to be completely honest, I actually really did not like the

3063
04:08:55,660 --> 04:08:58,500
drifting in Forza Horizon 5 unless you were off-road.

3064
04:08:59,500 --> 04:09:05,100
Really, really liked the off-road drifting, but the like on-track, on-road

3065
04:09:05,100 --> 04:09:07,660
drifting in Forza Horizon 5, I really kind of hated.

3066
04:09:08,820 --> 04:09:16,580
It just felt like liquid. It didn't feel like it was, I don't want it to be an actual sim.

3067
04:09:16,660 --> 04:09:22,860
I wasn't playing Horizon for a sim, but it just, it felt way too whack.

3068
04:09:24,020 --> 04:09:27,540
Even like Mario Kart drifting felt like it was more grounded in

3069
04:09:27,540 --> 04:09:28,500
something that made sense.

3070
04:09:31,260 --> 04:09:35,300
But I've seen some clips of some pretty cool drifting stuff in older

3071
04:09:35,300 --> 04:09:42,700
Horizon games, but yeah, I've never really got around to it. There was almost like too much content in Horizon 5 to the point where when I was

3072
04:09:42,700 --> 04:09:47,100
done, I was just like, okay, I think I'm going to take a break from racing

3073
04:09:47,100 --> 04:09:47,820
games for a little bit.

3074
04:09:51,180 --> 04:09:55,980
Yeah. But no, I like Orange. Luke doesn't not like the drifting in Mario Kart World.

3075
04:09:55,980 --> 04:09:59,900
No, I don't like it. Oh, you don't like it. They are totally right. Oh, what's wrong with this?

3076
04:10:00,260 --> 04:10:02,620
It's just worse than eight.

3077
04:10:03,620 --> 04:10:06,860
We're not necessarily saying it's bad. Oh, interesting. It's just worse than eight.

3078
04:10:07,220 --> 04:10:11,220
And it's not necessarily how it feels, but it's how like the game interacts

3079
04:10:11,220 --> 04:10:14,780
with it, how it rewards it when you should use it versus other things, stuff like that.

3080
04:10:14,900 --> 04:10:18,700
Is it just because you're used to it? It could be. I actually really like it.

3081
04:10:18,700 --> 04:10:24,620
I've been open to that as a possibility. I only ever played Mario Kart DS extensively and it's really close to DS.

3082
04:10:24,900 --> 04:10:29,260
So I was able to just pick it up and go. And I really don't like the drifting in eight.

3083
04:10:29,660 --> 04:10:36,980
I mean, okay, fair enough. The Mario Kart drifting eight versus world is like insanely different than

3084
04:10:38,620 --> 04:10:42,420
Horizon. The reason why I brought it up was because like in Mario Kart, you can kind

3085
04:10:42,420 --> 04:10:45,180
of like really feel the bite of the road as you're trying to drift.

3086
04:10:45,500 --> 04:10:51,380
And in Horizon five, and some people corroborated this in

3087
04:10:51,380 --> 04:10:56,140
Philippine Jet as well. In Horizon five, when you take a drift car, tune for drifting and you

3088
04:10:56,140 --> 04:10:59,420
take it on the road, the road just might as well not even be there.

3089
04:10:59,980 --> 04:11:03,500
Just like you're just kind of floating around. Like it's very weird.

3090
04:11:04,900 --> 04:11:09,060
I've been in cars while they were drifting. I've drifted in other games.

3091
04:11:09,140 --> 04:11:14,420
Yeah. It's you're really kind of like fighting with the engine in the road.

3092
04:11:14,460 --> 04:11:17,660
So to make yourself go around this thing, there's a lot of like force

3093
04:11:17,660 --> 04:11:23,780
feedback, like a lot of it. And in Horizon, it's just like, I don't know.

3094
04:11:23,780 --> 04:11:29,340
It's weird. And that's why I actually preferred drifting off road was because fighting

3095
04:11:29,340 --> 04:11:32,420
the like gravel and dirt or whatever actually ended up feeling a lot more

3096
04:11:32,420 --> 04:11:36,580
legit than trying to drift on the actual asphalt.

3097
04:11:36,780 --> 04:11:40,620
Yeah. Pancras is saying Horizon five feels like the physics are weird with drift cars.

3098
04:11:40,700 --> 04:11:43,380
Yeah. It feels really weird. It doesn't feel good.

3099
04:11:44,380 --> 04:11:48,300
I think the main thing with world wasn't necessarily how the drifting felt,

3100
04:11:48,700 --> 04:11:52,180
but how the game like rewarded and incentivized it more than anything else.

3101
04:11:53,900 --> 04:12:02,700
But yeah. Well, I think that's all for now because I am busy playing vibes.fish

3102
04:12:03,420 --> 04:12:06,820
and I have no further time for Wancho.

3103
04:12:07,860 --> 04:12:11,260
So we will see you again next week. Same bad time.

3104
04:12:11,740 --> 04:12:14,980
Same bad channel. Oh, and also on another channel next week.

3105
04:12:15,260 --> 04:12:20,700
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So go subscribe to LMG clips because that's going to be the Wancho channel.

3106
04:12:20,820 --> 04:12:23,940
It'll be called something else, but go subscribe now. Bye.