Dream's gonna happen, we're gonna be streaming.
I still can't believe Luigi sent out a newsletter
that was like, buy now, free Luigi.
What? Yeah. Luigi sent out a newsletter?
No, no, dbrand. Oh, I'm pretty sure he said Luigi.
I did. Oh, he said Luigi sent out a newsletter. Two options. Oh, did I?
Yeah. Okay. Maybe I did. Maybe I didn't.
The chat will let us know. Yeah, maybe I maybe I inserted that.
I saw that, too. What is what is the link to? Is it an actual link?
Just adds it to the cart. And it's like a donation?
No. Oh, so it's a zero value. You just, yeah, no, you just.
Oh, God, you're just telling the robot that you want to free Luigi.
Yeah. Okay. And then it just adds the product to your cart.
Yeah. Classic dbrand. What did I bring my phone out for?
Oh, two factor. I knew I opened it for something.
Yeah. Okay. You did. I was like, how did he send a newsletter from jail?
Oh, that's crazy. Did I say dbrand?
No, apparently said Luigi. Did I really? Oh, wow. Go Linus.
Yeah. I'm tired. It's been a very, very long week.
Yeah. I was playing catch up. It was. It's nuts.
Did you win or did you fail to cut the mustard?
I relish our time together.
Is that mayonnaise on your pants? Oh. No.
Like on the other side, away from the bun. Oh.
What are you trying to do? I'm trying to put a shutting power off to the U.S. Yeah. As far as I can tell,
like every country in the world is like, we'll make trade worse.
Whoa. And just pointing at each other. And it's really lame.
Yeah. We'll see how it goes. Hopefully everyone just relaxes.
Yeah. Holy crap.
Like literally not beneficial.
Why am I? Did you see Russia starting like trade war with China?
Yeah. There's got to be a reason.
I can't imagine what it is.
I was going to say, I wish some luck with that, but I don't.
I honestly, I saw him just started laughing.
Like, man, with the current situation that they're in
and like the one big partner that's been like, okay, we'll hang out with you.
And then they're like, no. It's like, who does that leave you with as friends?
It's like friendship with China ended. North Korea is now my best friend.
Yeah. Send us more of your soldiers, please.
Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh.
Yeah. Midley correct also points out that India's been buying oil from them.
Oh yeah. India's been trying to be the in-between of everything
as far as I can do. Yeah. Except with Canada.
Oh yeah. I mean, yeah, but yeah. That's fair enough.
Mantis, as you pointed out the animation time to unlock an iPhone, I can't unsee it now.
I like hold up my ancient note nine in the video
and I just like throw my like,
sorry, my screen's so dim right now. You can't see that it's unlocked.
But I just like throw my fingerprint on it and it's like, it just is on.
And they're like, dad, be cool.
You know, it'd be a cool idea for a,
oh man, what's the real name, bonus bin item for next year?
I don't know, maybe these are expensive. I don't know, they're oddly expensive in stores.
Maybe they're really cheap to make. Like a Christmas card or a holiday card of some kind.
We did a postcard once, twice, once.
We did a postcard. Just add another thing to it.
Yeah, put a Christmas tree on it. Yeah. Christmas bird, put a Christmas bird on it.
Also known as a turkey. Yeah.
Cause that's what you eat for Christmas bird. I think we should stop calling them turkeys.
I actually like the name Christmas bird better. Just Christmas bird.
What are you having for Thanksgiving dinner, Christmas bird? Christmas bird.
I mean, where it just works. What if you have it during Thanksgiving?
It just works. Just Christmas bird again? Christmas bird, yeah. Okay, true.
Yeah, Christmas bird. All right, what do people want?
Hi. Hi. Hi, Dennis. What?
What? What? What would you do this week?
I'm sure it is. I saw a comment under one of our most recent videos.
It was like, Dennis's ad spots have been getting more unhinged over time.
I hear you laughing. Yeah. This one's into madness, it's on display for all.
This one says sibling. That's kind of interesting.
Sibling? Yeah. What's a sibling? One of the headers.
What? I got sibling, gravy, juicy turkey.
I have no idea what you're talking about. What are you talking about?
Who do you possibly talk to? These are the file names for the integrations.
The ad spots? Oh my God.
I assume sibling is related to Lucas's AMD upgrade.
Oh. You'd like to think that.
Dennis is getting very angry with me. All right. Have a lovely evening.
Let's do this thing. Bye, Dennis. Okay.
All right, all right, I'm ready. You ready? Yeah.
You ready like Freddy? Yes.
I'm ready as Freddy. I heard he got fingered. Oh.
Okay, I'm resuming the selection. We selected some.
I am. He's resuming something. I'm gonna start the show. Yeah.
Okay, I'm pressing it now. Are we good, Dennis? Yep.
All right, we're good.
Boop.
What's up, everyone? Welcome to The WAN Show. We're gonna be talking about all kinds of great stuff,
but of course the big headline topic is that Intel Arc doesn't suck.
What happened? I don't know how to make sense of this world anymore
because it doesn't suck and I'm excited and it's not just me.
People are actually excited. The whole industry seems genuinely hyped over this.
About building a gaming PC for the first time in flipping years.
So I know we already made a 16 and a half minute long video
about Battle Mage, but I wanna... Time to talk more. I wanna talk about Battle Mage some more.
Time to yap. Especially some of the observations that I've made
about people's comments on it and about people's viewership habits
on our other videos as a result. Don't look at the doc.
He's trying to... No, I didn't. I opened a new tab. He's trying to spell all the things.
You're hurting the laptop. We're also gonna be talking about
LTT and ShortCircuit. Have they gone too far with the clickbait?
Oh. The world, it turns out, is not actually upside down.
What? Unless you're in Australia. In which case it's not news.
Is the thumbnail good for them? I think so. I think they can see it better.
What else we got today?
Oh, right. I'm supposed to do something now. You're actually supposed to have the doc open
and be looking at it. Yeah, but you've gone mad at me. So I... You didn't even have it open.
I opened YouTube. Okay.
You can buy a car on Amazon. That's weird. And there's like almost no other topics.
Blu-ray's Battle Mage buying a car.
And then hang out.
The show is brought to you today by MSI, Bessie, and Squarespace,
and of course our laptop partner, LG, our rap partner, Dbrand,
and our chair partner, Secret Lab.
Why don't we jump right into our headline topic, which is of course, Intel Arc Battle Mage.
Against all odds, it's great.
Did you watch the video? Yes. Well, yeah. Well, I don't know.
I don't know if you watch our review of a GPU. I was up at like eight talking to you about it,
and I reviewed the video. Okay, well, I don't pay attention to these things.
Intel finally launched. What do you mean? We were talking about it. I know, but I...
How do you not pay attention? Do you have any idea how long my week's been this week? It's been crazy.
I was really surprised you were up. Yeah. Well, I didn't have a choice.
I was, I've been up at the beginning of days. I've been up at the end of days.
It's been a very, very hectic week. Intel finally launched their anticipated Arc B580 GPU
this Thursday, and across the board, reviewers and the public are impressed.
It is built on the latest generation of Intel's XE architecture and provides a great value
with 12 gigs of VRAM, outstanding 1080p performance,
and even strong performance at 1440p.
In our testing, it provided a 20% uplift over the RTX 4060
while undercutting the 4060 on price.
At just $249, the card offers a compelling value
if you can get one. One note I will put out there is some other reviewers.
You know, we don't always test the same games. We don't always test the same games in the same way.
Some other reviewers have found slightly different performance, like maybe the 4060 does pretty well
in like some random title. Like if I remember correctly, Wendell said,
comparatively it did pretty well in Starfield or something.
I don't know. Maybe just check out his video. I mean, dozens of people are playing Starfield.
Yeah. With that said, we don't necessarily choose games
for our suite based on how many people are playing them. We have plenty of games in our suite
that not a ton of people are playing. Just benchmark well. Because a lot of the time,
you're looking for consistency and you're looking for games that represent something.
So they might represent, okay, we need to evaluate Vulcan performance.
Or if there's a particular feature we wanna look at, look at like ray tracing,
we need a game that supports various implementations
of super sampling. We need this, we need that. So a lot of the time the benchmark suite
is not just down to what games people are playing, but it's down to what exactly it is we're trying to test.
Sorry, one, I'm gonna interject really quick. My flight back from France
when I was going to the bathroom mid-flight I was also walking down the hallway thing.
I have to go sideways. I saw somebody on a steam deck playing Starfield.
No way. I knew it was Starfield because they were on a loading screen.
When I came back from the bathroom, they were on a different loading screen.
And I was like, yep, I really wanted to stop
and like talk to them like why, why, but I didn't.
I just left them be. Anyways.
Intel reference cards immediately sold out.
Most AIB partner cards, which are priced around $10 to $20 more are also sold out.
Hopefully restocks will happen soon. I have a short conversation with someone at Intel.
I don't wanna get them in trouble, but basically I was like, please tell me you have lots of stock coming
and I'm not gonna look like an idiot for saying it's 249.
We are expecting weekly replenishments on the reference card
and working with partners to offer steady availability.
I said, okay, you gotta control the channel.
Tell the boys, come on, there will be money to be made later.
Don't fuck this up. We need momentum. Seriously.
Passing that along verbatim. Hell yeah. I don't know that they have any power.
I don't know that they even know anything. This is the janitor. I was talking to the janitor
at Intel's graphics division. That's the only person I know there.
I'm not important enough to have any like, you know, high up contacts or anything like that.
But what I can say is that I have said what I can
to the janitor at Intel about, hey, don't get greedy here.
You need to buy some market share. Your partners need some market share.
Sparkle is not a relevant GPU maker.
There's GPU partners that are running away from NVIDIA.
If you're nice to them right now, like.
Be a valid option. But with that said, I mean, I'm telling Intel,
don't be that nice yet. There will be time to make an extra 10 bucks.
It will come. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you gotta control the channel.
Don't be nice to them by hosing the buyers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not now. Now is not the time to look at the market out there
and go, oh, this card is priced attractively.
We should fuck up the pricing and price it less attractively.
Just win. Just win.
Win the hearts and minds of gamers. It's really important right now.
You've got X amount of months until 50, 60 comes out.
We don't know how long, genuinely. That card will come out and then that's when, you know,
we'll see how you're doing. Now it is worth noting, EU viewers have pointed out
that the card is being sold at the same price as the RX 7700 XT in Europe,
which is a 400 US dollar card. The B580, it's good, but it ain't that good.
That's another thing that Intel and their partners need to get figured out is global competitiveness
for this thing needs to be good. With that said, given they can't keep the bloody thing
in stock, I can see how it's a lower priority, but guys, oh, make as many as you can, please.
This isn't my notes. Pat Gelsinger's fasting and praying paid off.
Yeah, I just opened this up. Every Thursday, I do a 24 hour prayer and fasting day.
This week, I'd invite you to join me in praying for, what is this?
What am I even looking at right now? Hold on a second. I don't really know. For the 100,000 Intel employees
as they navigate this difficult period. Intel and its team is of seminal importance
to the future of the industry and the US. This is actually incredibly important.
And I do want to talk about this later. And I have to say that I just want to shout out
that I hadn't read this tweet yet, but I think some of Pat's tweets have been hilarious.
I haven't looked at it. And I love that he's just out there tweeting
about the company immediately after leaving. Dude, I just, I want him back already.
Like, can they just hire? Can they just say, look, we were wrong. Oh wait, Battlemage is sick.
Maybe come back. Can they Sam Altman this? And just be like, bro, I'm sorry.
Can we just have you back because we didn't get it?
This is like the first thing that has come out that has actually been like Pat's vision start to finish.
Actually, no, he came in after. A little bit. He came in a little bit after.
But like, okay, so that's not the first thing.
The point is that we are only now starting to see things
that he actually really had a hand in. I mean, it has the same problem as politics
where you'll come in as the, you'll come in, you'll set a bunch of things in motion.
Oh, we didn't make enough quarterly profit. See you later, buddy.
And then the next guy or Gal comes in and it's like, oh, great job.
All these products are doing so great. Let's count beans. I'm inheriting this garbage heap.
Time to work on that for like fixing that for three years.
Then I get one year maybe to like reap some of the benefits of what I did and I'm out probably.
Oh, okay. I'm just, anyway, I'm jazzed.
Okay, what else we got to talk about? Besides the question of value,
the other big question for ARC was game compatibility. While our testing was relatively smooth,
except for Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra Ray Tracing which crashed,
problems are still present as many reviewers did encounter issues in a variety of titles.
Apparently, Starfield is still a problem game for ARC GPUs. I think that's one of the reasons
why the 4060 did comparatively well. That makes sense.
So it might be good to wait a bit, let the early adopters help Intel sort out the bugs,
but also looking at how dedicated Intel has been
to improving their drivers on the first generation ARC Alchemist cars.
That was actually crazy. You should buy a product for what it is right now.
You should not buy a promise, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. However, I do believe that promises
can have varying levels of credibility.
And I think that if Intel were to say, we are very dedicated to improving the drivers of our GPUs,
I would say that that is a credible promise. And you know, it doesn't always work.
Starfield isn't new and ARC GPUs like,
if I'm her colleague didn't even work in Starfield when it first launched, wasn't that a thing?
I don't remember. I don't remember it was bad, whatever it was, it was bad. And it's still not good.
So like, they're not completely acing everything. Again, don't buy things on future promises.
But if you know effectively, like what games you and your crew play,
and you can look at how those perform based on some reviewer
that's probably checked it out or some number somewhere on the internet that you can find,
you might be able to say, hey, this works for all the games that I play right now.
So maybe that works for me. And then cool.
Yeah. Now, I wanna come into sort of a transition topic from that.
And this is that my job is so much easier
when there are good products and they're a great value.
Like, do you have any idea what it felt like
to wake up in the morning, feeling like pity?
Sorry, to wake up in the morning,
actually that has not aged well. No, it really hasn't. I was just going for the Kesha lyric.
Okay. Yeah, that, wow, yep.
Shout out Kesha. No, I don't, by the way. And neither do you.
I forgot that P. Diddy is also Puff Daddy.
You caught it yourself this time, very good job. I caught myself.
We're improving. You know, it happens over time. We work on it.
We work on things. Did she change the lyrics? We improved.
We learned, we learned cultural references.
Hard P.
Sorry, Dot, Dot, Justin said that. That guy. Apparently the lyrics have changed.
Kesha has announced, this is from August, that she will re-record her hit song, Tick Tock,
changing it from wake up in the morning, feeling like P. Diddy to wake up in the morning,
feeling f*** P. Diddy.
So that's something. All right. Yeah, I mean, she's highly relevant these days.
Yeah. Anywho, the point is, what am I going with this?
No. Oh, okay. The point, yeah, her career, my understanding is,
is sort of a sad story, actually. Yeah, I mean, I don't, anyway.
Okay. The point is, the point is,
I woke up in the morning, with a 99% like ratio on a video.
Feeling like a respectable human. Yeah, feeling like a, feeling like, anyway.
We didn't need an elaborate hook, you know?
Oh yeah. Or a weird thumbnail. Or like a, like a.
It felt good to watch. A three day shoot. Or, you know, it just, all we had to do was execute.
We got our briefings. The Labs team did a great job.
The writing team did a great job. The production team did a great job.
The editing team did a great job. The business team did a great job. We sold our sponsor spots.
It was like a breath of fresh air.
Like this machine. It felt good. This machine is, is built to survive anything.
But boy, does it ever run better when tech companies make a product
that anyone fucking cares about and wants to put in their fucking computer.
When you take out the like discarded kitchen grease
and you put in some actual gas, and it's just like, oh, wow. Wow.
It runs nice. Now we're cooking.
Like dude, it is, it takes me back to years ago.
Oh yeah. Like it is such a stark contrast. When, when we were, when I was sitting in script review,
okay, and I was working on the intro with the writer for that video
and we were going through it. I was like, no, no, really.
When was the last time there was a $250 GPU
that anyone actually wanted to buy? Oh, seriously.
Not that they were like forced to buy because there wasn't a valid option whatsoever.
Like- I think this is why a few different creators all included like 10, sixies and stuff in their reviews.
Because that was the last time.
It's been five years.
And like I had this line that I- Is this the like mark that like the COVID era is over?
Maybe. Like finally through it. Dude, I had this line. I had this line I put in the intro that I was like,
almost half of the time that Linus Media Group, Inc.
has existed. Oh, that's rough.
There hasn't been a budget, like a value GPU launch worth writing about.
There's been nothing. 1650 was like kind of okay, but they cut it down.
It sucked. We knew we weren't getting the value
that we could have gotten.
Like, dude, like we've gotten,
we've gotten like how many products in five years
have we gotten that have blown us away with their value? Like sure, okay, Oculus Quest series.
You could make that argument, but what did you give up for it?
Right? Like it wasn't just Intel's not asking for anything in return.
Here's a GPU. Give me $250.
That's it. We don't take your personal data.
Just play video games. Fuck yeah.
You know? That's what the review felt like. I think my favorite part was when you ran out of like
positive things to say. So you're just like blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't remember exactly what you did, but it was great. I was, I hadn't read the script.
So when I was watching it, I was getting to that point and I was genuinely like, I wonder what he's going to keep saying?
Cause like I know what these graphs are. And then yeah, you were just like blah, blah, blah, blah.
I thought that was awesome. Well, it's like, I, you know, I just,
I want that to be the case. Like it's, do you know how unfun it is
to whine about things? And you know how unfun it is
to feel like, to feel like a shot messenger sometimes.
Oh yeah. Like I remember the amount of flak that we took
in the middle of like 40 series. When we basically came out with a review of some card,
I forget what it was. And we were like, well,
realistically in the current landscape,
this is a deal. I don't like it, but it is. And we got pitchforked over it.
And the number of people that were messaging me, DMing me, leaving comments and they're like,
Linus, you need to hold these companies accountable.
You need to put pressure on them to lower the price. It's like, I don't, I don't have any power.
I don't have that power. You think, you think Jensen Wong is watching my video
going, hmm, yes, Linus, how should we price our GPA?
He doesn't care what I think. We have to all try to work on it,
but it almost doesn't matter when they're just selling it all the computer. It doesn't matter at all because at the end of the day,
I can whine about microtransactions. I can whine about overpriced GPUs.
I can whine about a lack of innovation in the tech industry.
I can whine about all these things. It doesn't matter as long as people buy them.
Money talks. And at the end of the day, I'm not buying GPUs
so I can offer my opinion and they might take it under advisement, but that's it.
And so I'm sitting here going like, on the one hand,
yeah, I hate getting shot as a messenger, but on the other hand, boy, was it ever nice
to just upload a video with some really great news
and have people be like, well, good job, Linus.
But that's the reason I'm bringing it up. It's like, yeah, I think our team did an excellent job
of executing on that video, but on the other hand,
I wanna make sure that we are giving the credit
to where it is due, which is the great work that Intel's software team has done,
that Intel's engineering team has done, and that Intel's management, however not present,
they may or may not be now. Maybe other than the ones involving the removal of someone special.
How good the job, the people who have supported this project for this long.
Yeah, there we go. Now, it's clear that this discrete desktop GPU
would have been killed ages ago, if that was the whole picture.
Intel needs a GPU product for the data center. They need a compelling GPU architecture
for their mobile devices. And that's what Battle Mage gave them
because it made Lunar Lake their latest mobile chips.
It made Lunar Lake more competitive as well. They finally, and that's one of the reasons
that hopefully, knock on wood, we are going to continue to see new architectures
going forward. Celestial is apparently baked.
So they're working on the hardware level stuff now,
but apparently the design is,
I think baked was the word that was used,
but there was a little bit more nuance. Hold on, Celestial baked Intel.
Hold on, I'm trying to find the quote. Tom Peterson confirms that Druid is already in the works
and that the hardware level groundwork for Celestial, which includes architectural layouts and prototypes,
is done? Speaking of which, Mr. Tom Peterson,
so exciting. Yes, yes. Fantastic job of communication around this launch.
I didn't feel like there's been so many times throughout the years, like back when I used to do
review stuff and even more recently, where you feel like you're getting the wool
pulled over your eyes, including in the past, just to, sorry guys, but give you a little bit of a rip
from Intel. This time, no.
He showed us charts where they lost.
They were like, here's a huge amount of games. This is how it did.
Sometimes it did poorly, usually it did great. Cool. Like it felt like I was getting actual information,
not I, like we were getting actual information, leading up to a launch that helped us understand
what should be happening during the launch at all. Like it was very open, transparent.
Which is really helpful for us, because at the end of the day,
we're gonna figure it out anyway, if your product sucks.
So you might as well help us. And I think Tap gets that.
He's been around forever. Yep. And it's just, it's very helpful,
I think, having his influence on things. Yeah, because it's not like we don't wanna tell
the positive side of the story as well. Yeah, we loved doing this.
This was great. We wanna tell the whole story.
And the more information you give us, the less time we spend just dicking around,
trying to find what you're trying to hide from us. And the more time we can spend working on
crafting a message that helps communicate the product, because at the end of the day,
that's what we want people to know. We want them to know what's bad about it, what's mid about it, what's good about it,
which ultimately should be what you want people to know. That's how marketing is a post-a-work.
I genuinely like- You're supposed to come to us with the marketing materials.
We're supposed to read it, interpret it, test it,
and then present that alongside our own findings to the audience.
Yeah. And then they can make an informed decision. It's about informed decision-making.
And so often it feels like a battle and this time it felt like we were on the same side almost.
Like it felt like they were genuinely trying to help us make good content,
which sounds like that should be pretty normal,
but it's like super not. So anyways, I just, I wanted to show that out
because I appreciate it. There's a couple other kind of comments on this topic here.
This is amazing. This is a direct quote from Adam Sondergaard
from the writing team. This is the first full-blown positive CPU or GPU review
that I've written in my three years here at LTT.
Did a great job of it. Yeah, he did a great job. I mean, like-
Considering you've only written- He's only ever worked with lemons. You did a great job of writing a positive one.
He's only ever worked with lemons. You give this man some lemonade.
He's gonna put that powder in the glass. He's gonna stir it up.
Ah, delicious, right?
But yeah, after years of creeping price points, low part availability and cool but expensive tech,
I feel like it has broadly deflated interest in the hobby,
which makes our job as content creators so hard.
Do you guys think we want to reach for like complex
video concepts and like, you think we wanna react to stuff on Reddit?
No, we'd love to be making videos about cool new GPUs
and CPUs and RAM and cases, cool stuff.
That's what we want. I mean, people wonder why our content has diverged
from a strict focus on PC hardware and building PC.
Building PCs is cause there's nothing to make videos about and no one fucking cares.
Man, we've uploaded videos on like, how to build a PC recently that have just bombed
because people don't care, they don't wanna do it. But here's what happened immediately.
Oh, did those types of videos crank up? Did you see the screenshot that I sent to the topic chat?
That's so cool, it's so good for the culture. Watch this, watch this. Did you see the screenshot I sent to the approval chat?
Okay, watch this, watch this. Okay, so this right here is a,
this right here is a me not knowing how to use an iPhone.
Hold on, where's the thing, the approval chat? Where's my screenshots?
Here they are. I like your watch panel. Here they are. Oh yeah, my little unicorn.
Okay, here we go, here we go, here we go. It's like the Labs concept logo. Here's the ARC B580, okay?
So this is the next day. And so we got obviously some recent videos upgrading my big brother's PC rented an Airbnb
to look for hidden cameras and some stuff. Anyway, the point is, here's as we go down the list,
we've got how to build a PC, the last guide you'll ever need, some other crap,
how to build a PC, the other one, the older one,
the last guide you'll ever need, immediately.
It's almost like- Entry level computers are good for once in years.
It's almost like it's a mistake to turn your entire product stack purely transactional.
Price everything, feature everything for what the market will bear.
It's almost like that's gonna kill the enthusiasm
for your products in the long term. It's almost like when someone comes in
with something that's legitimately exciting, instead of just seeing everything
in terms of total addressable market and optimized profit to expense ratio, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's almost like you can create new customers
by making something that's exciting and gets people talking, gets people looking into it,
gets people exploring and wanting to learn.
Thank you very much, Intel. And this is a really, really important thing
that I wanna bring up.
Guys, Intel Arc is going to force the incumbents to react.
NVIDIA and AMD are very likely to bring their cards down
to a price that is competitive with Arc.
Don't forget, when you're recommending a $250 GPU to a friend or building a new machine,
don't forget who made the price point happen.
We've talked about this so many times. In my opinion, there's a value to that.
People root for AMD so that their NVIDIA card can be cheaper.
But now, Arc is not just like a crappy option
that we hope will become a good option someday. It's a legitimately good option.
It's a solid option right now. It's a solid option.
If I was building a computer for a friend or something in this price point, I would probably throw this GPU in.
I might check what games they play. Make sure it's gonna run well.
But you should do that anyways. We've just gotten a little soft on that because over the last years,
basically everyone's just buying NVIDIA cards and they pretty much work in everything, which is cool.
But it's not that much of a lift. They wanna play like Rocket League and League of Legends
and something else. Like, you're probably fine. Sweet.
If they wanna play Starfield, just tell them, ah, don't bother. SteveJ3D here in chat says,
I just had somebody ask today about what NVIDIA to get for under $500.
I told them to look for a B580. NVIDIA doesn't have real options under $500.
Dude, $599 used to be like an ultra card.
Look, that was a top tier card. That's now basically where NVIDIA starts
having a valid option at all. Cause I'm not counting these eight gig VRAM cards,
especially now that Indiana Jones and the...
What is it? What's that? Two, what's this? It's a great circle, right?
Six suggestion from LNG community in full-plane chat.
Yeah, great circle. But he said, can you combine it with an APU
and use that to handle older games that the B580 might not be good for?
Yeah, possibly actually. That's actually not a bad strat.
Cause Intel does struggle a little bit with especially some very, very legacy games.
Yeah, but modern CPUs can probably handle all those.
That actually ties me right back into one of the other things
that I wanted to talk about here. I want to call out AMD.
Where are current generation Ryzen 3 chips?
Where are they? I understand people can buy a last generation chip
or whatever on some ancient architecture or like a two-generational chip for your value segment.
But like, what the heck?
You used to have value chips. You used to launch the entire lineup,
Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 3. Like the whole thing was there
and also you had that threadripper for consumers. Remember that?
Like remember getting people excited about products and making stuff because it was really cool
and because it would delight your customers. And while we're at it,
where are your non-X Ryzen 9000s?
Hello?
We talk about this. This, I think it's an upcoming video, but we talk about AMD's shift in strategy
where they used to launch them at the same time,
the X and the non-X variants. And then they started launching the X first
and following up with the non-X at a lower price, but like pretty comparable spec.
And now for 9000, X has been out for months.
We have X3D. Where the fuck is the regular one?
No, you can just pay for X. We're doing a lot of Intel praise right now,
but it wasn't even that long ago that Intel was the ones on top being big jerks.
Oh, 100%. So like it's- Just not even bothering to invest in R&D
and make new chips with higher core counts. That's what allowed AMD back in the game.
And massively jumping prices and doing things like that. So it's like, it's this like,
remember who got us here comment? A lot of it's like, I will genuinely make purchasing decisions
based around who's like currently. Yeah, it's like, what have you done for me lately?
You should never have brand loyalty. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't let a brand
influence your purchasing decision. It just means you should ask,
what have you done for me lately? Yeah. Yep.
Because honestly, I mean like,
oh, the people that influenced the decision that you liked all those years ago
might not even work there anymore. Yeah. Yeah.
Like, I don't know. This is a really good line in our notes.
Instead of just producing enough to meet market demand, why don't you guys make something cool
and stimulate market demand, please?
There were some, Adam did this topic. He says, here's some good value products
that we've covered. I was talking to AMD with that last one. Yes.
Also just the tech industry in general. Yeah, but Intel just did is why I clarified there.
Here's some good value stuff that we've covered. The 2024 Mac mini.
Yeah. If you ignore the expensive storage upgrades,
but that is a legitimately exciting product. I am legitimately excited about the 2024 M4 Mac mini.
Mac minis have oddly been pretty good, but yeah, especially 2024.
Oh man, his other stuff, honestly, Adam, I don't know. I think you're reaching.
I think you're, I think you're, you've got the modern tech dystopia perspective here
because he's got the X3D chips in here and they're, yeah, they're exciting, but they're like really expensive.
MetaQuest 3 VR. Yeah, we talked about that. And also Pixel A series question mark.
Like they're just, man, there hasn't been. There really isn't a lot.
I tell this story all the time, but like when people point out like,
oh, a lot of the stuff that goes on all the details, just like entertainment stuff these days.
It's like, yeah, it used to be really easy
and now it's really hard. Now we have to, we, the writing team,
production team, all kinds of stuff has to make stuff interesting.
Before stuff was just interesting. Yeah. Stuff like this Intel card would just come out all the time.
And it was like, oh, sweet. I don't know, throw it on a bench, play with it a little bit.
Yeah, it's great. Sick, cool. See ya. Your games run faster.
It was just so easy. There's no downside. Yeah, nice.
And then now it's like, oh man, okay, we got, I don't know, I'll do some, I don't know, whatever thing.
I see people complaining that we don't do enough GPU reviews and CPU reviews.
They're our today. Like, what are we supposed to review? Where are they?
Like we get a new family of GPUs like once every almost two years.
What am I supposed to do with that? I can't keep reviewing it.
If I did, you'd ask why I keep reviewing the same GPU. I don't make GPUs.
I don't make GPUs. Look, come out that often.
That's a 40, 60. That's a year and a half ago. If we look at the 40, 80,
it's 2022. That's two years ago.
November. So it's even slightly more. We still don't have a 50, 80.
Yeah. What do you want us to do?
Two years. And the prices don't even come down.
So I'm going to chat, review it again. No.
But yeah, so like, okay, back in the day when it was like eight months between GPU cycles.
Oh yeah. That was a long time ago. It was before we were even in media, but in fair,
but still still annual cycles were nice. It's a little easier annual cycles.
Now when it's every over two years, like it's, I don't know.
I don't know how, when it's going to be, but it's going to be over two years, considering we just saw it's already been over two years.
What do you do in the meantime? And when that's happening to every vertical,
and when a lot of other verticals just feel like they're kind of maturing out a little bit,
I'm like, to be clear, I feel like our team does a really good job.
They do a great job. Fantastic job.
They're killing it. But it's just, it's so hard.
Because you have to create the concept
instead of just having cool things. Like we would, we would walk into the office
and there'd be a pile of interesting things in the corner. Yeah. Every day is just like, oh, okay, sick.
Yeah, we'll have to prioritize which cool, interesting thing to talk about.
That is not the problem anymore.
Oh man. Anyways. Anyways, Dan, we've done two topics.
Okay, thanks, I'm a little swamped. Oh, what?
Are you getting merch message inundated today? What's even going on today? It's been 40 minutes and I've had 200.
It's been 40 minutes? That's a wow. Wow.
Look at us go. Hey, it's Wancho. I can dance all day.
Is it, is it the, is it just because we're close
to Christmas and people are trying to get stuff? I mean, look at the top banner of the site.
Precision multi-bit screwdriver, bit sets, and end caps are restocking.
Backorders are live now.
Please help.
Okay, well, let's do a couple of merch messages then if you've done two topics.
That makes sense. When's the mod mat coming out? There's my merch message.
New year, I think. Okay. Luke asks.
Sorry.
When's the mod mat coming out? Hi, LLD, great to see the precision screw.
Nope, that is an incoming. Sorry, I'm losing it.
It starts exactly the same. Hey, LLD, just wanted to say the MCM product suite
is phenomenal. Finally had a chance to redo my setup when I moved
and I couldn't be happier. What's next in that product category? I need more.
Oh, we are, I think we're working on a smaller
power brick holder, like for like little tiny power bricks.
The current one is a little bit tricky to use on really, really small stuff.
Okay. I believe we're working on, I think we're in the early stages.
It may never see the light of day if it doesn't reach our quality standards,
but I believe we're in the early stages of like an arch with like a flexy middle.
Whoa. So that you could kind of stretch it out and have it be like flatter or put it together
and have it be like taller. It may not end up making any sense.
I know that we are, what else are we working on?
I, oh, this is cool. Now that I've been promised that this will be coming
very, very soon, even though I've been asking for it for like two years.
Could you like bungee?
Between two magnetic ends? I don't know, maybe. Then you just take one end off to access the cables
and put the other end, put the end back on. That would be very complicated tooling.
I don't know about that. Maybe it's a cool idea.
One thing that I know is coming is we create all kinds
of like cool 3D printed internal tools
and holders and adapters and all kinds of stuff.
Like we have for the little quarter 20 threaded
power bar holder, MCM like magnetic thing.
We have a little screwdriver holder that can go onto it and then you can just like put your screwdriver into it.
And so I've been just super irate every time I see stuff like that.
And I'm like, yo, why don't we share any of this with our community?
So we are finally going to be publishing like a repo
of just like all the cool stuff that we design internally. LST store like maker add ons.
Not even, cause a lot of it's just like stuff we just use internally that has nothing to do with maker.
Like our like our CPU holders and stuff like that.
You're 3D printing it. Isn't it like maker? I mean, sure, I guess so.
Your Sonos wall holders are up there. Yeah. So we're, so we are finally going to be
publishing that bloody thing. I love the idea of like, oh, I lost my little,
the little plastic thing my CPU came in. I can 3D print a new one.
That's sick. And we have those and they're awesome. Yeah. And they're already designed.
So, yes, we should, we should definitely do that.
Oh, Tynan's apparently in the chat right now and he says possibly question mark.
So I have no idea what that means, but keep up the good work.
No, that was to the bungee thing. Oh, really? Oh, okay, cool.
Cool. But he said that before you said. Oh, oh, a big part of the, of the like MCM line
is going to be our cables to go with the cable management stuff.
Yes. I'm very excited about our cables. Please.
Dude, the quality. Yes. The quality. Yes.
I'm excited. I've been overdue to kind of modernize a little bit.
I'm still on type A for a fair amount of things and it's not too much, but a fair amount of things.
And I've been, I've been waiting. Been waiting. Dude, they are someone, I don't know who.
Doesn't matter. Someone's going to cut them open and they're going to be like, damn.
They're just their quality. Nice. Yeah.
I'm, I'm really excited about them.
All right. All right. I got one more and then we'll do some announcements. Okay.
I got the OG screwdriver. Happy to get the stubby and precision.
Just started a new job. Any advice how to help myself stand out
and become more valuable for the company?
Man. Okay. I got some, I got some shameless advice.
What is it? Shameless. Because a lot of people I think are too modest
and they feel awkward about sort of Claim your way.
Pumping up, yeah. Pumping up their own achievements. When you do something that like goes well, talk about it.
I think that's honestly one of the biggest issues
that I saw like back when I was at NCIX, right? Cause like as, as the CEO or chief vision officer
whatever roles I've had here, I have, you know I have a lot less visibility into what
Not too much. Every single person is doing. Yeah.
And it's a very different perspective. And then being like a rank and filer at NCIX
I had my sort of bottom up perspective. And what I will say is consistent
between both of those perspectives is that whether it's the individual contributors
that are working for me or whether it's my peers that are working for the company
is there are people who do great work
super quietly, don't stand out.
Don't point out anything good that they do. And they don't, they don't get the recognition.
Sometimes they do. Sometimes they do. But often they don't. But that relies on their boss to be kind of awesome
and pay attention and be on top of it. And let's face it.
Come on folks. Is your boss awesome and on top of it
and always paying attention to what you do
in like a positive way? Don't, don't Dan, Dan, don't answer that.
No, no.
Luke just said, no, no, I did not. I like where you went, Taryn. Leave me alone.
So that, that's what- That was such a bait.
That's what I want you to do. If you think you're doing a great job
then I want you to make sure that you tell people about it. Make sure that they know.
Don't be boastful. Don't let it be constant.
Just slip it in once in a while. Especially if there's, especially if there's someone
higher up the rung present.
And if you don't think you're doing a great job and you don't have anything to talk about then kind of maybe figure that out.
Find something good to talk about. Yeah. You also don't want to, yeah.
You don't want to be annoying. It shouldn't be the only thing you talk about.
But bring it up. Claim your work. Oh, and another, this is actually really great.
Disorderly says, when I did tech support, one time I went on vacation and my boss volunteered
to do my job. When I got back from vacay, she gave me a raise.
That's actually a really key point as well is take your PTO.
Take your time off and make sure
that by the time you take it, because it sounds like you're in a new job so you might not be eligible for a little bit,
make sure that by the time you take it, you're hard to cover for.
That is impossible to ignore. If you take your time off and the team-
Why would you say that? What?
No, not put obstructions in the way. That's 100% how a ton of people are gonna take that.
That's not- So many people. That's not the way. So many people.
That's not the way.
That's not the way. He means be so good.
Yes. Not like don't do documentation or whatever else.
The company doesn't- Let's get off this topic. The company doesn't implode when you take a day off.
Let's get off this topic. If your manager notices that you're not doing documentation
or that you're not doing good documentation, you might just get fired for that reason.
So be careful. Yes. And just be difficult to replace because you're good.
So take your PTO and be in a position
where when you get back, people are grateful to have you back
because they're like, man, I don't know how we do this without you.
That's what you want people thinking about you.
It's very annoying when AJ goes on vacation.
Because he doesn't document anything? I get messaged all the time.
And I'm like, ugh. That means he's doing work.
That means he's doing work. Oh yeah, he's like- That's good.
Doing whatever he's doing. Don't note that, Matt.
JoJoWeb says- That's really good. He doesn't need to do anything more.
Matt's doing great. JoJoWeb says, okay, I'm gonna unplug our company server and go on vacation.
Thanks for the tip. Luke, you give such great advice.
What?
Giving Luke pre-TSD? That's pretty funny.
Okay, what are we supposed to be doing, Dan? Merch messages. We only did one though.
Wait, we never explained merch messages.
Oh. Leave a merch message. You gotta go to lttstore.com.
We don't do just throwing money at the screen. We do throwing money at high quality products
and getting them in the mail. And also, you can throw money at the screen
and get your message on the screen. Send it to producer Dan, who will,
there, okay, it's working now. Who will reply to it or forward it.
Dreadfully say, oh, when he realizes that you haven't explained
merch messages yet. Or curating for us. I think people understand how merch messages work.
Some of them do. Hey, we reach new viewers all the time, Mr. Besser.
Yeah, absolutely. There's a new tech enthusiast born every minute
and we're gonna get a merch message from him. Especially from Intel, apparently.
Especially, yeah, oh, dude, thank you, Intel. I mean, I remember when I was back at NCIX,
like my old boss, Jack, was like, yeah, I mean,
the entire industry basically lives or dies by Microsoft and Intel innovating on a cycle
because new Windows, boom, explosion, PC sales,
new Intel processor, everyone else is just sitting,
waiting with bated breath for them to release something new that's faster and better so that people need RAM
and motherboards and graphics cards and, okay, well, I'm spending anyway,
I'm gonna get a keyboard and mouse and like, we've been without a driver.
The bus has just been cruising down the road
with no driver for years. We need someone to drive it and it's like,
Intel sure as heck not doing it on the CPU side but dang it, the GPU division stepping up
and I'm loving it. All right, Dan, what are we supposed to be doing now again?
Announcements, yes, announcements.
Float plain merch stream. Sorry, we're supposed to have five of these.
Yeah, why are there so many announcements? Well, some of them are quick, some of them are quick.
Okay. Available now. The floppy disk notebook.
Save all your precious notes on the floppy disk notebook.
It's a blank page notebook with terrible pages.
Sorry, ripable, they're good, they're not terrible.
Why don't you even let me pitch the product? This one has notes in it.
It fits in a cro, what, sorry, what?
This one has notes in it. Who wrote that? Notes are not included. Plate power breakfast, that looks like Sarah's writing.
Anyway, if it's an across body bag or even a jacket pocket with ease and comes
with 200 perforated pages for your convenience. Terrible pages.
Designed by the lovely Sarah Butt, it is available in gray or teal.
You can get it now at LMG.gg slash floppy.
What else we got?
What is this? An announcement a ton of you have been waiting for.
Underneath the table, there's a stocking. What?
Oh.
It's like not close to my, is it all laying on the ground?
Re. Oops, re. What the?
Oh. Oh. Re stocking.
That's right, the bit set, there you go.
The case and precision bit set for the precision driver.
Okay, and the end cap set, which has the different profiles of end caps,
the convex, the flat and the concave.
They are finally restocking, but you already know that because we spoiled it 10 minutes ago.
Yeah. Back when we launched these back in September,
we couldn't imagine how much y'all were gonna want them. You literally sold us out in 72 hours, which we appreciate.
So we ordered a lot more, a lot more, but who knows, they might go fast again.
So we'd suggest getting them while you can. The case with 60 long reach bits,
a detachable hinge and convenient magnetic parts tray
and an adapter. So you can use these bits with the regular LTD screwdriver
or really any other quarter shank screwdriver
is available by itself for $29.99 or in a bundle with the precision multi-bit screwdriver,
which saves you 10 bucks compared to buying both separately. Everything is available for order at LMG.gg slash bit set.
So you can get that stuff there, get the combo or get the case.
What else do we have to announce? What else do we have to announce?
Is there anything else? Okay, this says watch video. Is this gonna be like weird and awkward again?
Are they giving us a full length video? No. What are we looking at here?
Okay, so watch video. Oh, it's 42 seconds. Are we good?
Do we have audio? Is it this one? I don't know. It is this one.
It says watch video. I don't know. You're gonna watch. We're watching two videos?
That's the wrong video. This is the wrong video. Which one are you on?
Oh, that one. No, that's you. Oh, yeah, go for it.
I don't know. There's so many videos. Yeah, I'll do audio.
Let me see. Linus is not playing audio. Yeah, go for it.
Oh, heck yeah. So I think we should make this our next merch idea.
Sick. I'm Linus and I'm really just saying, yeah, that looks like a good idea.
I dropped things because I'm a silly guy. Are you going to take more suggestions
from the Floatplane live stream? I'm Luke. Chicken, chicken, chicken.
Yeah, that's what you suggested last time. Oh, yeah, we did.
I'm Linus and I'm always late to WAN to make Luke and Dan mad all the time.
I'm Colton. The business team would be excited about this initiative as it aligns their strategic objectives and KPIs
while raising stakeholder value. By leveraging this opportunity,
we can drive incremental- Join us December. 19th at 10 a.m.
and help with our suggestions for what we could be designing.
There. That was great. What are we even doing?
Every time I'm featured, they just say chicken a bunch of times. My goodness.
Okay, so Sarah's going to be doing a Floatplane live stream designing,
I guess it's a shirt. Another shirt. A shirt, okay. And it looks like maybe it's blue this time.
Okay. Like a light blue. Neat. All right, Floatplane.
So exclusive stream, exclusive shirt. And there's one last big announcement.
There's a suggestion thread for the themes. I suggested a Floatplane in a hanger
and the hanger is Creator Warehouse, but maybe you can beat my suggestion,
leave it on Floatplane. I think they can beat that suggestion. Probably. I think they can beat it.
Probably. I mean, they're float planers. I'm sure they can beat it. I tried to leave like that.
They beat it every day. Oh, pfft. Pfft.
I, pfft. Ah.
We're just going to move on, I think. Me.
One last announcement, one last big announcement. Is it another video?
It is another video. I will play that video. This one's on YouTube.
No, I haven't been playing this one. You're playing it. Yeah, I know.
What? That's Dan, he's a player. I got the backpack or is.
Oh, my.
Oh, that looks like someone designed it to fit the tech sack.
Oh. Wow. This, like, looks like a professional company made it.
Oh, my. Wow, that glass is shot, though. Yeah.
Yeah, I know where that is. Wow.
Yeah, I know where that is.
Two external water bottle holders, let's go.
Man, the team has outdone themselves. Oh the price. Oh, we just announced the price apparently. Oh
It's in the description of the video to you. Oh Is it? Yeah, I saw
Dude off the unlisted video that that is I saw so many
people Luke when when we first started teasing the commuter bag when we talked about around Wanshoe being like
Okay, I'm hoping it'll be like I'm hoping it'll be like
150 to like 180 and then I'm like all over this thing and I was I've been dude. It has been so
Hard for me chats saying good price. It has been so hard for me to sit here and not be able to tell them
Okay 149 99. Yeah. Yeah, it's good price people are saying good price. Okay. Oh dude. No, no, no like this is huge
W price. Oh dude, dude, dude, dude, dude There was a reddit thread a while back where people are like, there's no way dang
You're you're hoping for you're hoping for a dream. Ah
Dyslexic stoner 240 said terrible price could have done 149 97
So what's 97 your two cents too high? Oh, okay? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry
I'll do better next time dyslexic stoner You should have played into the joke and done you could have done 149 99
Did we announce when it'll be available was that in the thing?
December 26th December 26th boxing day here in Canada, which is kind of like what used to be our Black Friday. You can sign up
There's a site LMG dot GG slash commuter and
This is this is really important if you're interested in the commuter bag
You should go sign up now for the launch notification
LMG GT slash commuter because at launch for a very
finite Something we are doing something we have never done before with the new product launch on LTT Store
Oh, yeah, and you are gonna want to know right away because we're not telling them because it's finite
I don't even know what it is finite means not in finite
So it's limited. It's outside of finite. Yes. Oh, yeah, it's out finite. Mm-hmm. Yeah
Don't let Your friend be finite while you are out finite
Wait in front. No, the point is get sign up for the thing. Yes. All right
Finally Fire pole. What is that? It's a pole that's fire. Oh
When hoodie v3 There are two options Dan. Can you can you help the people? Can you help the people respond to the pole?
So let me explain. Let me explain before you publish it Let me tell me before you publish it because I want to explain. Yep
There's two different possible vibes for the upcoming when hoodie v3
This one is more like the original sort of when hoodie the v1 and the v2
It's got the orange accents with the gray on the black
That's cool. It's also got just an updated design. It's very similar fit to the older ones, but a little bit updated
It doesn't have the same sort of bunching in the sleeve. So it's a little bit easier to roll up
So there's a few little nice to have it's covered in pockets all the things that you love about
You know when hoodie, but here's the thing the when hoodie branding is not orange and
Has never been orange when branding. Yeah
Yeah, the way and brand the branding for the WAN Show has always been
Kind of red it has never been orange
Yeah, like not not these bars on the side of merch messages. He's talking about the logo over there this here
Yeah, because that the thing under it is is a there
Yeah, the hexagon the best of gone that's down there. Yeah, so so that's to see you five
Did we do that on purpose or did we just screw up? No, the WAN Show branding has just always been read. Okay. Yeah
so this is Actually more true to the WAN Show
They are the exact same hoodie the only difference is that this is actually based on the WAN Show colors and
This is gray and red is more like the black and orange
You know when hoodie colors, so Dan go ahead. You guys are gonna decide. We're only making one of them
So I got red and orange. Yes. Okay. I'll do two minutes. Okay. Here comes the poll somebody was asking for a firefox option
I did firefox poll Okay, show results
All right, so we're gonna let you guys we're gonna let you guys
Fester on that for a little bit and then now. Okay. What should we do in the meantime? I?
Think we're out of announcements. Oh, yeah finally
We could do another topic we could do a merch message one more topic. There isn't a lot of topics
We might want to hit a merge message. Whatever you want Luke. Whatever. Okay. Let's do two merge messages
Linus Luke and Dan with meta offering the option to reset your algorithm should YouTube also follow suit
Maybe end the brain rot once for all. I don't think that'll end the brain rot
No, it won't end the brain rot will happen again actually had a conversation with my son last night because
He watches a little bit more YouTube than I'd probably prefer we he's at the age now
Or you know, we don't want to just like because I could I could just lock how much he can watch it or whatever
But he's he's getting to the age now where these need trying to get him to make decisions
These need to be conversations these need to be decisions that he makes and it's like it's like
You know the analogy that Yvonne was drawing when we were discussing, you know
Just parenting strategies was like it's like when my parents told me I couldn't date
The only difference was that they just didn't know yeah, right? And so we have to accept that at a certain point kids are going to
Not listen to everything you say and and you've got to ARM them for that, right?
And so one of the things that I was talking to him about I pulled up my Google news feed
I basically went so here's the thing it takes a ton of discipline
But you can actually tune these algorithms because a lot of the shorts that he's getting fed it's shorts in particular
That are kind of worrying because he's been watching more shorts And a lot of them are pretty like kind of educational and sciency
So he's actually been doing a good job of what I asked him to do which is hey if you're just watching
You know brain rot on YouTube that counts the screen time you need to talk to us about it
But if you're watching educational content, I don't mind you can do that whenever you want
So he's actually been doing a good job of tuning the algorithm a little bit so much really good educational content on YouTube
Here so like yeah, but he's also clearly still getting fed brain rot garbage
Right and so what I did was I pulled out my phone to use as an example to show him like hey
Look if I if I'm looking at news about if I click on something about the Royals or whatever
It's gonna be full of just like gossip bull muck bull spit for a long time
And if you are super super disciplined you can actually tune these algorithms to feed you really good content
And so I showed him I was like look okay, we've got sort of politics world events
Tech we've got like like all the things that I that I sort of generally
Generally follow and without exception There's like actually no junk in my newsfeed anymore
But that takes a long time and I don't because I just had to retrain it because I switched from my work account to my X
Sorry, let's go next. Oh, well. Yeah, sure
What happened to the pole? Oh Red one. Okay. It wasn't even close. It was like 69% red nice
Anyway, so back to the back to the conversation about around just like algorithms. I
I think that it would be very beneficial to be able to reset it, right
But to Luke's point Having gone through that process very recently of
Retraining mine because I had to I switched from my work account for my Google
My Google account like my main Google account on my phone to my personal account
And the reason I did that was because there's certain functions that don't work in Google Assistant if you have a Google
What's it called Google G suite if you have a G suite account and I just got tired of just like stuff not working
And I was like finally like okay fine I'll just retrain this piece of garbage because my newsfeed sucks on my personal account and was like really finely tuned on my work account
So it probably took me like three or four months To get it to the point where a I've retrained my brain to not see ads in the feed anymore because my work account didn't have any and
My my personal one does so I had to train my brain and then also trained my feed to not give me garbage
That I don't want to read. Oh, the other thing that typically ends up is like science, especially like astronomy science and
and like Material science for some reason I've clicked enough things about like lithium batteries that it's like oh, hey
There's a new graphing, you know, whatever and like are you interested in this?
So I end up with a lot of that stuff and it takes a really long time So I think it's a double-edged sword is the bottom line answer to this
I think it could be a really good thing if you feel like things have gotten a little bit out of control and you like
Want to do a breather and reset, but I also think that it could you could be better off
If you have the discipline retraining it yourself So we we kind of had a conversation with him about like yeah, this is this is a feed that can be useful
But it actually takes so much more discipline when things are just kind of being
Served up in front of you compared to going out and and seeking content like the way that we used to so
I don't know how much of this is gonna stick. I don't know how much of it's gonna sink in but
Trying to have these conversations will come and go a little bit, too I talked about this on wanshow before but I might one of my favorite lines, but this is like life is constant PvP
And I think sometimes people
Get lulled into thinking that it's not and that's like actually dangerous like it's
When you're randomly scrolling things, there's a war going on that you're not necessarily super aware of and it's
Trying to learn about you trying to learn about what's gonna keep you scrolling trying to learn about what's gonna get you to buy
Something to learn how to all those different things. It's constantly
Analyzing it's trying to tune for you need to be aware of that and I like to think that my kids
You know take me seriously is not just like some, you know, okay boomer like part of the conversation, too
It was actually a bit of a longer chat and it was like look
I'm not this is not fear mongering. I I
Work in this world. Yeah, I live and breathe this world
I go to conferences in this world where I look at graphs about this world about engagement retention
That's all they care about you are just a number and I think that's something that
People in general never mind just kids
Can't necessarily be expected to wrap their brain around. Yeah, sure. Yeah, you are just a number to an organization
like Google You're for sale
You can be bought you're even just a number to a lot smaller organizations. Yeah, that that's fair to say just because they're at the top
Of the mountain doesn't mean they're the only ones on the mountain
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty wild
I only man says I'm not a number No, we know you Langley man
You're definitely a number to a lot of companies. Yes
Which is our point
Can app says are we a number to you guys? I think you are I don't think I recognize your username
But like crystal I know It just it takes it it takes time to surface. Yeah, the full pink shots a bit smaller of an audience. Yeah, I recognize some people
But you know, it's never gonna be everybody you can't you can't retain like I don't know unless you have some crazy brain
You're not gonna retain all these different names now. They're all asking me if there's numbers. How many are asking?
I mean, get it. That's a number. Hopefully users numbered. They're probably numbered. They're probably numbers a database. There's customer IDs
Yeah, you're you're you're all a number
Now they're all fighting over who could be number 69
If I'm gonna be a number I'm gonna be a cool number
I'm gonna be the fun number Do you remember do you remember the the
Small amount of politics over employee numbers very early in the company for us. Yeah
Did I did I pull like a power trip and take number one or did I take like I'm number one on my health insurance?
Are you know, oh, that's interesting. I think I like I
Don't remember maybe maybe I'm just it's been so long one problem that I have is
Once it once my memory gets past a certain point I genuinely can't tell if I'm just like making it up or not, right?
Because like I don't know that's a real risk that I dream this
like Because my brain was like, oh, I like helped set up the health insurance and I thought about it longer
I was like that sounds really unlikely. It was probably entirely of on that. You totally did not do no
I promise. So why would I think that? Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know
Maybe I like looked into it, but didn't do anything with it. I was still on hers for Costco. That's probably why that's probably why I was probably
Still covered as a spouse because they didn't have to pay extra for it
It's by the I genuinely feel pretty cool when I'm like going to the dentist and they're like, what's your number?
I'm like, uh one
That's pretty cool. That's it's genuinely that's kind of an alpha move. It's pretty cool. I kind of like
Yeah, I that's probably my favorite part. Do you know your employee number as well? Are you two I?
Can't remember if I like I can't remember if I took one or if I took
69 or if I asked to be zero or something. I remember talking to him. I think my employee number is like
Not good because I went to knitting that he doesn't fill out his time sheet. Oh
Then I know it's three. There you go. You're three. Yeah, I wonder if Yvonne is two then
Whatever it is. I'm curious. I'm calling her. I technically moved a flow plane. Yeah
But I think hey, um, you're live on wancho. What's that? I
Bet you Hey, I have a question for you
Yeah, do you remember my employee number because I remember I was like kind of a bitch about it and I
Like I wanted a particular number or something
Are you talking about for like our Company benefit number. No, no, no not the benefit number. Just like our internal database like our employee numbers
Like what we use for ceridian and things like that Yeah, I'm alive. Yeah, you're live right now by the way, but
Yeah, that's fine. Just like whatever my employee number is. I just remember it's not one
It's not are you are you one three three seven then because I remember there was a conversation between you and I about that
Wait, so it's not one and I was upset. That's all you remember about it because that's all I remember about it, too
So this is yeah, okay. I can check
Yeah, it sounds like something I would want about okay. Yeah, all right. Okay. Thanks lady. Okay. Bye. I'm looking it out
Oh, what how would you know I have ways? What do you mean you have ways worry about it? Well, where are you navigating to worry about it?
Nothing Dan I get nothing he says he has ways I ask where he's navigated. Yeah, you are one. I am one. Yes. Oh
Why do you have that? Oh, you know, I do have everyone's employee numbers. I mean, I guess he's IT. Oh, you know
I'm pretty upset. I'm 71
I was so close
Oh man, who's two or I just locked it out probably him probably I don't think so cuz I because I went to I can't luck it
Now we need to know This must be known who's 69. Yeah, who's 69 we need to know
Oh Two is two is no longer here at the company anymore. Unfortunately
69 is though Who wins 69 and it's someone who would really appreciate
He probably knows he will know cuz it's gonna be on his time sheet. Yep, the one and only Adam Sondergaard
Yeah, I'm not even up there. I think it's cuz I got moved you're three for float plain media ink
Which is weird you in a Vaughan are probably one so you're yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so wait. Why is it?
Why isn't he Vaughan? No, no, no wait what? Oh for Floatplane. Yeah
I bet you you and Avon are numbered for Floatplane. Mm-hmm. If not, it doesn't really make any sense
That makes sense that makes sense. Okay, when we technically made full plane
I think it was literally only AJ and I like day one of actual full plane. Maybe Yuki was there. I'm not sure. Yeah, okay
There's so many people you he's a contractor. This is this is wild dude. Yeah, it's wild
Adam and I started a very very same sort of time
Absolute absolute double you Adam what a week for Adam. Yeah, I know right amazing employee number kills the review
Got to write his first positive review of a CPU or GPU. What a week. Oh
Man, that's sick. Did we just find out that Adam's just a number Adam is a number, but he's more than a number
He's also
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Okay, we figured something out with the employee numbers. What do we figure out?
I am legitimately three and it has nothing to do with flow plane because AJ is 20. Oh
So you are three I am just three you're just three. Yeah, okay three's not that cool real mature
But I'm happy with the health insurance one. I'll take that. Yeah, he's got the he's got the one me that actually makes total sense
Yeah All right, you want some merch messages? Ah, sure. Yeah. Hi. Thanks for finally restocking the big case topics are for Chodes
There's only like half a one left
Don't say that about Luke
Thanks for
I'm sorry
This is actually a really good question j5 29 in full plane chat asks why do you have health insurance numbers in Canada?
Because we have health insurance. Yeah, it's just that
Everyone has to pay into it in order to keep the deductibles and the premiums down for everybody. Yeah
Cool medication Medication used to be completely subsidized and they pulled that back
So you can get even more of it subsidized with private health insurance, but you don't need it
I have this is the first job. I've ever had health insurance
Yeah, really? I've been a contractor my like entire working. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, no, it's a it's a it's a whole thing like health insurance
Health health absolutely costs money here. It's just that it's like a more
For most people system it gets to luckily be somewhat of an afterthought. Yes. Oh, yeah, we don't think about it
Not everyone knows some people have to you. Yeah, some people still have health health costs that are quite high. Yep
But even even them as far as my understanding goes they are they're mostly well taken care of to be clear
There are big downsides to the Canadian system. Oh, yeah, 100% we are at like a dire crazy need for more health care workers
There are there are Some notable lacking points. Yep
I know people personally who have had cancers advanced through stages because it took so long
Yep to get the appointments that they needed But the flip side is I've never met anyone who just has their bones at a bizarre angle because they broke their ARM and couldn't afford
To have it set. Yes. Yeah Every time I've had something, you know, something like that some sports injury when I was a kid or something
We went to the hospital. I got my stuff taken care of and we left and there was no credit card machine on the way out
None of our health insurers CEOs have been gunned down in the street. Yeah, not one yet
I
Thanks for finally restocking the big case Luke. How was your final fantasy journey going?
So I was I was approached by a member of the HR team Dan hold on
I don't think my headphones are working. All I hear is excuse excuse
Oh, yeah, I've got a wine in mine
I was approached by a member of the HR team that informed me that starting this coming Monday
If I took my mandatory vacation time, I would have to take the whole rest of the year off
Okay, that's not really gonna work Because I have to do things
But I am gonna take some of it off and I don't have any plans
So I'm gonna be Final Fantasy before the end of the year Final Fantasy 6 specifically
He's been working on it for since it came out
But yeah, what part are you even on have you have you advanced at all from the last time we talked about it?
No, we're yet. I forget. I can't even remember anymore. I'm the the the main character
We went and saw like how they were born essentially. Okay, and then we have to go fight those dudes
Okay, just how the game works
Yeah, so yeah, I will have time I have no major plans
yet That's not spoilers obviously the main character was born at some point. That's not a story
Oh, come on and fighting dudes in an RPG A spoiler for that game like come on came out in like 1994 at a certain point. We have to be able to talk about things. Yeah
Get to it. It's like in Jaws. They kill the shark. Oh no spoilers
I've continued speaking of ancient content. I've been continuing my like old movie thing
I finally watched Groundhog Day. Oh for the first time ever. Have you ever seen Groundhog? No as far as rom-coms go
It's awesome. Oh, yeah I'm not a huge Bill Murray guy
but maybe part of the problem is I've never watched Groundhog Day because he's like super charming and
The the script is really tight and it's just
The pacing of it is really like like fun and upbeat like I really am not that much of a not that much of a
Rom-com guy, but it's it's kind of awesome
Yeah, love it. Nice. Yeah, so and and what was great about it was it turned out that in 1985 they knew how to make decent movies
It's just that the breakfast club wasn't one of them That's all dude, dude. You really like poking that nest. It deserves to be poked. So he ruined my weekend
I ruined your weekend. Well, how do you ruin your weekend? Oh, I get okay. Oh, yeah
You made me watch it. It was like that ruined your whole weekend and my weekends are very easy to ruin
Oh, you gotta be less affected by things my guy Everything hurts all the time. Well, it's actually a spectacular does not let me be hyperbolic ever
I Wasted a lot of his time on his weekend because I wasted whatever time he spent finding the breakfast club
I wasted whatever time he spent watching it and I wasted whatever time he spent at the end going
Sitting crying So far I am converting people one at a time who watched the movie a long time ago and are like, yeah breakfast club
Yeah, and I'm like, okay here are all the problems. I have with it and so far
I have ruined it for Reese from logistics and Dan already because they've gone back and watching them like yeah
Yeah, I Have no idea what I saw this before I remember liking little bits of it and stuff
But like I came out of it being like yeah The ending especially I well the endings like the one part that everybody loves about it really
The start was amazing I thought the setup was actually really good
I was into it ten out of ten that was probably the scripted part at the main thing that I didn't like
Yeah, the character development of the one what character development
No, there's there's one that it's you wish it didn't happen. Oh, yeah
Oh my god, so many people wish that didn't mean the girl with the legitimate mental illness who puts on some eyeliner and is now acceptable
Yeah That one's like, what are we doing? What are we talking about here? What a phone box? Are those like conspiracy theories?
What what did you realize the whole thing was a dream by Claire or the main female character what?
That is now that's a yeah, that's wow. That's a reach. I don't think I accept that. That's that's a reach
Dude, anyway Anyway, groundhog day excellent. So yeah, I'm and Dan I have I have one of the things you recommend
Red line red line. That's not even though. That's from like 2000 set. Oh god
I didn't actually I just thought it was a good movie. You should watch. I didn't know how that was so long ago
Don't shut up. It was an incredible. That's like three years ago. Shut up Luke
1990 was 35
Oh No, no, three years three years. Did you know that in a few weeks it will have been a quarter century since 2000
Pentium 2 came out a couple months ago. It's all okay
And the next technology is cutting edge a quarter of a hundred years
after the millennium How does it feel and the iPhone still has bugs? Yeah
PS3 is a retro console. That was one that blew my mind a little while ago. It's like the Wii
It's not just outdated. It's retro the wheeze of retro dude. How how many years ago did the ps4 come out?
It's not retro, but it's Gonna get there. I'm amazed that anybody knows what your notebook is
So old there's probably people watching this that weren't alive
It's 2013. Well, yeah, I don't know if too many 11-year-olds watch the wine show. I guarantee you there's a couple
There's probably a couple. Yeah, it's like ps4 is like my dad's console. Yeah
We had that when I was like a kid. Yeah, oh my god, the Nostalgia first
Jeez, Jake's uncharted 5 Nostalgic people are trying to mute you
Voice is so much lower than mine. I'm sure that then could just put a filter probably. Okay. What are we supposed to be doing right now?
We could do we could do another merge message. Sure. I don't know. Wow Dan's been too busy interacting with the show here and
His incomings are
HR my boss is laughing about how much work I have to do
Have to do it
You're my boss, he's not technically wrong. Yeah, you can tell him he doesn't have to do it
It is tech but will you actually I should message AJ about that. Yeah, we'll get angry if I talk to him
Oh my god, AJ goes all these people are pissing me off that
Hi, LLD great to see the precision screwdriver back Man, oh my god, that's what he meant. Oh great to see this precision screwdriver back to 80 now shut shut
Read it yourself then
Should I wait for the future that shut down shut up your face
Put some more water in it
Okay, 82 HR went home an hour ago. I can't do anything
Abuse on the weekend since it's free game
I have to do one every 13 seconds for four hours that's great if I read them I get behind
Great to see the precision screwdrivers back in stock Should I wait for the 50 series to release before getting the new 4070s or by now before Trump tariffs?
Does the same apply for used? That's like that's almost like financial advice
I think that the incoming administration is actually starting to figure out how tariffs work again
I think they may have forgotten because it's been four years. I
Strongly doubt that we're actually going to see I like the rhetoric has kind of cooled down a little bit now
That now that some reverse rhetoric has started and it's like hey like we will do this we can just actually stop like
sending energy to like Minnesota
So like I don't know That the inaugurations in like January you might need some energy
So now that now that that's been kind of kind of happening really a really interesting
Side-effect of this whole thing has been the the national is it the renationalization of capabilities?
Like one that one that came up recently was what was it?
The exact example that I'm trying to bring up but like in this whole sort of
Sometimes actual sometimes pseudo trade war that's going on
When you stop countries from being able to import things
You know instead of just not having it they're learning how to make it that's happening in the US
That's happening in in other countries
And I think it's gonna start backfiring in big ways as we like you when you go like okay
We don't want you to be capable of this thing So we're not gonna give it to you and then they're like okay
Well now we're not reliant on you for it anymore and we're gonna have it anyways and to be clear
I'm not saying that Canada should stop exporting energy to the States. Yeah, I'm saying that you should have bilateral cooperation
Yeah, and so we should work together. That's a good thing. It's it's it's good. It's there. I wonder what the hmm Wow
This is probably it's hmm Do I even want to bring this? Yeah, no
Water are we thinking the same thing? No, what happens if you stop a river forget it?
the point is just that the point is that
I am hoping I am more hopeful that between now and January common sense will prevail and
We will not be in a tariff fueled trade war immediately and
Hopefully things won't just Go up in price immediately because of no reason other than because we thought it was a good idea
I Don't know what 50 series is gonna look like and if I did I wouldn't be able to tell you
But what I will say is that if you go kind of Google the rumors
It's rumored to be coming pretty soon and if you know Blackwell is anything to go by like NVIDIA's data center products
The generational uplift could be pretty good. That's all I can really tell you
If your price point is like 4070 super ish
Based on how NVIDIA has launched Previous families and how they've kind of launched the top-end cards to start and then trickled down as they go
It may not be that you can get a 50 series immediately at that kind of price point
However, once the new family arrives, it's possible that we will see some compression of
Pricing and down below them to make room for the new card So we will also see how they decide to respond or not respond to Intel given a new family only arrives every couple of years
Or so now I would say we're close enough to the rumored release now that I would probably hold off if I'm looking at a high-end GPU
If I'm looking at a low-end GPU, I'm buying an arc battle mage right now if I can get my hands on one
So 4070 or so I'd say you're I'd say you're maybe in the waiting price band
I
Another one, yeah, maybe sure sure with AI chips dominating in videos focused
You think modern games can adapt to use more of the initial compute from tensor cores the b100 has
20 ish times more tensor core tensor flops more than standard graphics on a 4090
I mean, I think that's what we're seeing in the form of you know deep learning super sampling and frame gen
We're we're seeing those tensor cores being used in gaming
Like NVIDIA's g-force division is getting this hardware and they're kind of going okay
Well, what the crap do we do with this stuff? So I think absolutely we're gonna see more AI built right into
NVIDIA's products whether it's in terms of like
Video encoding I wouldn't be surprised by that whether it's in terms of gamer friendly features like background noise reduction
I don't know that we will just See straight up compute from tensor cores integrated into games like in the form of like enemy behavior or anything like that
Be kind of cool. I Mean I'd be kind of into it
But I mean looking at how finally with Indiana Jones in the great circle
We are getting a game that requires RTX and I don't mean that in a bad way
I don't mean like oh it requires RTX because developers are lazy or whatever
I mean, it's actually fulfilling the promise that NVIDIA gave us back with
GeForce 2000 series where it was going to be a boon to developers because instead of having to do all these weird tricks and
Hacker to get lighting to work. They were just going to Place light sources and place in game elements and the light was going to bounce around naturally like it would
This is the first game that's actually doing that and we're like six years on from RTX 2000
I forget what the exact timing is So, yeah, we've started to get these AI accelerators on our on our GPUs
But we are still probably a few years away from anyone developing a game that
Assumes that they will be there and a big part of the reason for that is that while NVIDIA has been baking them into their GPUs for a
Long time everyone else was a little slower on the uptake and we're only now getting like integrated processors that have AI
Processing on them the neural processing units So and I don't know is is there much in the way of neural processing on any of the current gen consoles?
Because I don't I don't really think there is I don't think so So I don't know a lot about the consoles. I could be wrong
But if we were going to get like AI powered
enemy AI for instance Then I think you'd have to see a console generation that leans heavily into it and that encourages developers to implement it at this point
Do you think you would need a handheld that could do it?
No, not that impactful. I don't think so. No, I think the I think the the TV
Console still matters enough for at least another generation
Interesting are we doing one more we doing topics?
Yeah, let's do some topics. Yeah, why not? All right topic time. Hey, do you want to talk about AI?
There's been some AI stuff this week. Sure, Sora. Yeah, Sora is out and there is other AI news open
AI's 12 days of announcements continued this week with Monday's release of Sora the AI video generator that blew everyone's minds back in
February and they give it to a couple people and then they stopped doing that probably because they're really so expensive it was
Put that in myself. I definitely thought this is from Riley
I definitely thought it had been longer realistic AI video is so normalized. That is yeah, that is very true
To the point where I really question a lot of the stuff that I see these days
Anyways chat gpt plus and pro subscribers have access but of course Marques Brownlee had already been playing with Sora for a few weeks now
And then there are some of his examples. Are you bringing those out? Okay?
While he brings those up on Wednesday open AI Re-gifted a present in the form of chat gbt integration in Apple intelligence which Apple shipped along with their other AI features this week
Most importantly mail categorization which is maybe nice and could also lead to you getting in trouble because you didn't respond
Wow, it's a fake news report Wow
Yeah, the background is definitely not perfect text is not right, but if I wasn't paying careful attention plug
Plug bug. I like the text personally. Oh, do you see the tech reviewer? Check out the tech reviewer. Yep
Open it up
Wow Whoa, where'd that phone come from? Yeah. Yeah. Whoa
He's a tech reviewer and a magician close-up magic expert. Yeah
That's smooth, I mean now I kind of you know what's funny you want to like edit that dude
We totally have a video coming where I pull that
I'm gonna I'm gonna go find it in Trello right now while you continue talking about things
So you're I'm out on screen share for a little bit here Yeah, also on Wednesday Google announced Gemini 2.0, which is demo, which it demoed powering an updated project Astra
Which I open up really quick
Nipolas cage says you should probably look at the news that broke at the top of the show about open AI
Yeah, I don't know if we have that anywhere in the dark
I will try to get to that Maybe we'll get through these notes and then I'll try to see if we can get something on that
But it is potentially relatively big news, but we'll we'll have to see
The there's the project Astro assistant with real-time video input as well as AI agents for gaming and controlling your browser
Open AI answered by adding real-time video input to chat GPT advanced voice mode on Thursday
Friday's announcement was a nothing burger just projects in chat GPT
Elsewhere in the AI verse reddit is talking is taking on Google and chat GPT with reddit answers
Wow, that's actually a great idea a new AI powered search tool meant to replace adding reddit to the end of your Google searches
Which is a lot of mine a literature class at UCLA is planning to use AI generated textbooks in 2025
But it's way, but it's way better than it sounds
That's not the sentence that I expected to follow that up the textbooks made by kudu a
Company that collaborated with the courses professor who provided course notes presentations and other material from previous
iterations of the class to generate the textbook over the course of four months kudu charges students
25 bucks per semester to access the textbook digitally
That's I mean, it's a lot cheaper than buying some of these textbooks
Interesting providing an alternative to paying through the nose for barely changed new editions of traditional checks textbooks
Interesting that's not that bad. Okay. Well, I mean, we'll see depends on how much it hallucinates
We'll see how their final exams go and then we'll evaluate it from there. Yeah build this
Agent orange instead of you know a random cleaner
AI company artisan AI company artisan drew criticism for buying billboards through san francisco that say stop hiring humans
Okay, we're gonna we're gonna look at that for a second. Are you kidding me? Wow. Wow
Wow I don't know if you heard about this, but something happened to a health care ceo recently. Um, anyways
Advertising their sales rep AI agents artisan ceo jazz. Hmm artisan
Say it luke class war
The artisan ceo acknowledged
Are somewhat dystopian But also so is AI
And they gave the AI laser eyes. What is happening? Is this real? They did
It has laser eyes Yeah, that's a creepy. What are they doing?
What is it?
I don't know dude, I don't know Anyways, yeah, did you did you you're still looking for that thing? Okay, so I'm gonna try to pick up an article on this
No, I've already got the blog post from I'm I'm so sorry. I'm gonna try hard. Uh, sucier belaji
Yeah, yeah, yeah The 26 year old open AI whistleblower who was found dead. This is his last post on x
I recently participated in a new york times story about fair use in generative AI and why i'm skeptical that fair use would be a
Plausible defense for a lot of generative AI products
I also wrote a blog post about the nitty-gritty details of fair use and why I believe this to give some context
I was at open AI for nearly four years and worked on chat gpt for the last one and a half of them
I initially didn't know much about copyright fair use etc But became curious after seeing all the lawsuits filed against gen AI companies when I tried to understand the issue better
I eventually came to the conclusion that fair use seems like a pretty implausible defense for a lot of generative AI products
for the basic reason That they can create substitutes that compete with the data they're trained on
I've written up the more detailed reasons for why I believe this in my post
Obviously, I'm not a lawyer But I still feel like it's important for even non lawyers to understand the law
Both the letter of it and also why it's actually there in the first place
That being said, I don't want this to read as a critique of chat gpt or open AI per se
Because fair use and generative AI is a much broader issue than any one product or company
I highly encourage machine learning researchers to learn more about copyright
It's a really important topic and precedent that's often cited like google books isn't actually as supportive as it might seem
Feel free to get in touch if you'd like to chat about fair use machine learning or copyright
I think it's a very interesting intersection my emails on my personal website
And he actually he wrote like a little paper on it on his website
Yeah, which is the only thing on the website, which is really good because yeah
No fair use is a super super not a good and stupid defense
For training your models with copyrighted works. It doesn't it fall it would fall apart immediately unless
Absolutely, you manage to get the case
Overseen by a completely corrupt court
Um
Okay, wow, that's uh, that's really sad
Um
What else we got in AI news did you make it through everything else? I think I made it through okay. Well, um
You don't hear about other crazy stuff. Did you find the thing in the trailer thing? I did find the thing
Do we want to show that or something? So we did a video on ferroelectric RAM
um and We did like kind of a silly thing in the intro watch my hand
Okay, so wait for it wait for it
This is a good video by the way Hold on hold on wait for it
Okay, so I get this other thing
Okay, blah blah blah something something radiation it's resistant to that
I don't know we were just on set and I was like, oh that'd be kind of fun. We should just do like a silly like, uh
I just thought it'd be kind of fun That's pretty sweet. Yeah, just the fact that it was so similar to that AI generated video that marquez had yeah, that's cool
People are unsure if it's editing magic or magic magic. Who cares?
That's part of the magic Magician never tells you how they did their trick speaking of freaking magic, dude
Google announced quantum breakthrough with their willow chip if you looked at this
No, you did I linked in the thing early in the week. I know I thought you would look at I've had an incredibly busy week
I can't use that excuse. I use the word incredibly
Uh, oh there it is. Uh, google has created a new quantum chip called willow that can reduce errors exponentially as it scales up
A major breakthrough in quantum error correction
Willow performed a computation under five minutes that would have taken one of today's fastest supercomputers 10 septillion years to complete
Showcasing its potential for solving complex problems beyond the capabilities of classic computers. Uh, this is
Genuinely a new form of compute. Uh by all accounts
This seems to be a genuine breakthrough by google in contrast to their much debated declaration of quantum supremacy back in 2019
Uh, and maybe they're uh, all it takes is what is it?
All it takes is attention or whatever that article was that really sparked this whole AI thing
And then they weren't on the forefront of it despite writing the article on it anyways
However, google told the verge that their chip won't break modern cryptography so everyone can just
Chill for now for now Until willow too. What else we got and then nation states come give us money, please. Oh, this is funny
Microsoft recall preview doesn't honor privacy settings
Recall is back in the Windows insiders program after being pulled in june
Over met lots of backlash massive privacy concerns, etc
The new version allegedly encrypts screens that it captures
It's supposed to filter sensitive information and that is enabled by default
This prevents it from recording apps websites showing credit card number social security numbers and other important financial information
Tom's hardware test should recall and discovered the filter doesn't work very well
credit card info and a random username and password and notepad was captured despite
Capital one visa being written alongside the information
A loan application pdf and edge was recorded including social security name and date of birth
And they created an html page with a web form that said enter your credit card number below with fields for card type number
cvc and expiration date and it captured this too
It did work for some real world commerce sites that were tested like primaroni and adafruit
Only the before and after screens were captured leaving out the credit card information in those cases
And when tom's hardware reached out to microsoft for a comment, they were directed to a blog post which states
We have updated recall to detect sensitive information like credit card details passwords and personal identification numbers
When detected recall won't save or store these snapshots We'll continue to improve this functionality and if you find sensitive information that should be filtered out for your context language or geography
Please let us know through the feedback hub We've also provided an option in settings that we encourage you to enable that will anonymously share the apps and sites that you prefer
To be excluded from recall to help us improve our product
Nice Hey, at least the new version is going to be a database of all the smut on the internet
I mean, do we need another one?
Luke, I think that's just called the internet. Yeah
With facebook To their credit the new version is opt in instead of opt out
Oh, that's a lot better and you need to use Windows. Hello to open the recall app to see what it's recorded
That's something that's something making it opt in solves most of my problem with it
Yes to be completely honest the files are encrypted and could not be easily opened without
Actually biometrically authenticating or using a pin. So that's the good news, but also like, you know
Yeah Don't turn it on but hey, you can buy a car on amazon
Amazon is launching amazon auto with initial partner Hyundai to make buying cars easier than ever
Really they have plans to feature other brands in the future you pick your car trim options to browse local availability at participating
Dealers with fixed transparent pricing get an instant quote on your trade-in secure financing check out and schedule a pickup time
Should we do it? Should I buy a Hyundai on amazon? Why I don't know. Maybe I want a Hyundai ever think of that
I don't think it's going to be like an interesting experience. No, I don't think I really don't
I don't know but people are saying yes people want it. Yeah, but they're going to say yes to and hey
Do you guys literally 100 of you use firefox? Does literally every single full-plane user use firefox?
Is this true at scab again? Is that true? What do you guys think?
Whoa, they're saying yes No way, that's crazy imagine imagine that that's wild 100 of an internet user base all using the same type of browser
You're kind of a Oh
Okay, two things one this seems like a kind of a weird business decision
To me because what was that? I thought there was like a buy a car online company that popped up during covid
And then people realized it like wasn't making money at all and it just super died
Probably I don't remember and then also this isn't the first time you've been able to buy cars on the car. You could buy that
You could buy them on ebay That was crazy this I don't know
It's just like a big box Can compared to what they normally ship it in I guess not a big box
How do they drop it off and he knows big boxes?
No, uh, big box enthusiast
Do you think it goes to the big box store? Do you think it's an individual like flatbed that drops it off?
Do you have to go pick it up somewhere? You probably have to still pick it up Yeah, because it's local dealers so you still have to go to a dealer. So then like what's the point?
They can still try to sell you some you know undercoding. Why did we do this? I don't know
I mean I didn't Seems like a stupid idea
Have LTT in ShortCircuit gone too far with the clickbait
Um, have they Floatplane the topic is and this was written up by elijah. Oh good
Yes, folks. We did see the reddit thread titled what happened to video titles
And of course Floatplane says yes because they just say yes to anything
He's so happy right now. I'm glad you make him happy
Do you enjoy do you enjoy pleasing luke?
Yes, see this is what we're dealing with over here. This is this is what we're dealing with
Okay
So the what the hell did I walk back into Do you guys need a minute? I think it's more like what did you walk in on? Oh
I need a minute the op was expressing some frustration with some of our recent titles being lies
Some examples are the most recent AMD upgrade titled upgrading my big brother's setup
And sure it wasn't and short circuits video titled
This is a weird shape for a phone with the op explaining that the first lines in both of these videos had something along the lines of
He's not my actual brother or it's not an actual phone
Some comments as well are talking about us lying about renting an airbnb for the video
Where we rented an airbnb and tried to find hidden cameras
The reason this is even a wan topic today is because we would like to discuss with the community
why our titles are the way that they are and
Talk about how even if a fringe minority is upset about the titles
We as a business are always experimenting and seeing what sticks and what doesn't
Um, elijah says because believe me if it doesn't stick we adjust it ex the mac for poor people title
How that made it out the door man, I approved it
I saw I saw one of the community posts about that and I was like, that's fake
I can that was that wasn't us and then I'm like, oh man like
That's that's crazy. They're like so and then I was reading the comments I was like, no, I can tell you the context that existed that existed in my brain that made it so that I thought that was a funny title
Because I've been trying to make a video called the background was tense. Hold on. I okay. I didn't notice. Oh, yeah
That was bad. I did not notice that I would I would not have I didn't notice that
But the the background that existed in my brain for why we made the decision
was that I've been trying to convince the writing team to make a video that's like
Brand X doesn't care about poor people for a long time because so many brands have abandoned their low-end products
We we no longer have like a current gen 130 dollar CPU. This was not the way
We no longer have a current gen 250 dollar GPU at least until thursday and so
I was like apple Who has completely forgotten about poor people?
forever I mean when's the last time they even made an iphone se?
like honestly iphone So that was my whole thing apple finally like
remembered not everybody has 1300 dollars to spend on a phone
And like a 1500 dollars to spend on a computer
That was where I go so we can't have our like genuinely decently affordable headphones either. That was where I was coming from
Finally apple made a computer for poor people
They like remembered that not everybody is a dentist
And yeah, it didn't land. It didn't land anyway. No, um
There's some discussion questions here, but first I would like to correct a couple of
Misconceptions the first one that really got people mad was the airbnb one
Okay, and that's the one that I actually most take exception to
Because in that video, let's have a look at what this title was
Okay, hold on where we had okay. Here we go. Here's the title
Here's the thumbnail I rented an airbnb to look for hidden cameras
Okay, there's our here's our thumbnail device
Finds cameras Okay I rented an airbnb
I did we shot this video in an airbnb that we rented really really
Step two I looked for hidden
He's not gonna lie when I watched it. I was like that's not his house Step two and I believed you rented one. I looked for hidden cameras
I did you just didn't find it. Well, yeah, obviously not because like they're almost nowhere
We had to ask for permission to use a place as a filming location yet numpties
And no one's gonna be we had to tell them what we were doing
Yeah That's fair and like I know some people are like well you should have like rented a bunch of airbnb's and searched them all
It's like the vast majority are not gonna have any hidden electronics in them
I'm sure it's a thing that technically happens, but actually finding one like there's I literally
Rented an airbnb To look for hidden cameras. What the f*** do you want from me?
And to show you the importance of titling on youtube
This is how this video was performing
When we had the initial title. What was it? Um, I think it was this
Device can detect any electronics even when they're off. Oh, yeah, the new title is way better
Which was a super straightforward straight shooter title. Yep
Then we changed the title of the video. I forget exactly where we log it somewhere and it went show on
Went from being A horrible under performer like the worst thing we'd uploaded in a couple of weeks
To being an over performer so
You know what? Yeah If my title is literally accurate
And you're just like you're just like mad because we didn't
Find a camera that we didn't put that like I'm sorry. It was a really good video guys
If if they didn't actually rent an airbnb. I don't think they would have been
I think they would have been lazy enough to just use like the kitchen set or your house
I don't think they would have gone to painstakingly convince you that it's a
A different house, but not actually pay for an airbnb Dude, we drove all the way to like Abbotsford or something like we actually like
Rented an airbnb and went to an airbnb and shot in an airbnb
We put in the work for crying out loud And then the funny thing about it to me is that other than that reddit thread
almost No one was mad about the very next day us uploading the video with lucas
Where it was like upgrading my big brother setup. Okay. He's not actually my brother. That was a good joke. It was just
Guys, he's joke. He's joke. Opie. Are people actually upset about the brother thing? I was just the one guy. Okay
Um And then as for what was the other one the the weird shape for a phone
Yeah, so with the phone one The the only reason that I called it like a weird shape for a phone was because it's not a phone
It doesn't have a sim slot and I acknowledge that first line of the video because like like they said
But what it does have is it has a snapdragon processor that is very similar in performance and capabilities to a modern smartphone
And that's why it's so expensive. It's like a six hundred dollar game boy thing
But it's like it's got a touchscreen and runs like full-fat Android even though it
Like has a game boy interface that honestly kind of blows like the form factors
Like there's a reason nobody makes the game boy anymore Other than people who still make the game boy
Um, I'm sure a few which there are a handful doing but it's not ergonomic. It's it's it's a very old very dated very
Not ergonomic design. Yeah. Um, and so I just I just thought it was I just thought it was amusing
I think that is probably the most
sort of Valid complaint where people were actually mad and it was actually kind of misleading and I'm sorry and we fixed it
Um, but yeah, we're we're always trying stuff because we never know what's gonna work and
Ideating on titles is also incredibly freaking hard and I think people don't realize that and it's frustrating because when we name something
Like that that um non-linear junction detector video when we name something literally what it is or what it does
It performs like crap Nobody watches it. It's a great video. It's educational. It's entertaining. It's a good length
It's very like just like eat some popcorn watchable like for crying out loud
I don't know guys. I'm just I'm not gonna I'm not gonna apologize for having to put good content
in shiny packaging um, and yeah, like we're
We're gonna we're gonna fly too close to the sun sometimes and we're gonna have to sort of correct titles or we'll just have a
Or we'll upload a or we'll have like a straight shooter title that we're gonna have to you know
Lean farther into into making it more clickable But it's just part of the game and it's frustrating to me because I wish I could just call the video non-linear junction detectors explained
These things are so cool because that that's what I felt about it. That's what I wanted to call it
That's I was the one who came up with the title that was like this detects any electronics even if they're off
But nobody clicked it or detects hidden hidden spy devices even if they're off or something like that
I forget what it was, but I watched the
The video I think I might have clicked on it before the title update
Because I was interested in how it found electronics when they were off and if that was in the first title that that's probably why I clicked on it
So that's that's some other things like you might get a different type of person
But the type of people that want that first title just
aren't as common So the video will perform worse. I wish we I wish we could abc titles as well
What we're pairings of titles and thumbnails and stuff like that and not even lock into one
But just have them be different depending on You know what youtube knows you're more likely to click on like I'd be super down for that
It's a matter of time. Yeah, I was just thinking like what if you had like
Five different title and thumbnail mixes for one video and it just served
What it thought that user would like the most to the individual user instead of ab testing
Sorry, I wasn't really listening but the airbnb thing says it was apparently actually kind of a pain because accounting was all over it
Oh, that's really funny Anyway, Elijah says this is my thoughts on the whole thing and linked to a reddit post
Is it his reddit post? Oh, Elijah
Okay, one of our rules in the writing department is don't insult the audience and I know I break it once in a while
But that doesn't mean you can Okay
What are we supposed to be talking about? No, it's not apparently it's not his reddit post
No, it wasn't it was someone being very rude
Oh, I know it's not yours, Elijah, but you linked it. I like the title at the very least
But Everyone knows it's this one
No, I think he no No, I think oh, I thought it was the top response that he linked. No, okay fine. Yeah, that's fine
Put down your keyboards and just enjoy the content there. We don't look at the top response. Yeah fixed
I got you Elijah. You're good. Um, yeah. Yeah, we go back. Okay. Yeah, we're good. Thanks Elijah. Uh
blu-rays Dude lg has discontinued their blu-ray and uhd blu-ray players
This has been confirmed by flat panels hd lg korea
Excuse me didn't confirm if this is a definitive and final exit from the optical disc player market
So this could leave the door open in case they want to make a return But they haven't made any new models of blu-ray players since 2018
And it's no secret that sales of blu-ray discs and players are on a very steep and steady
decline and our discussion question here is
Physical media, especially for movies is seen as far superior to streamings due to factor
Far superior to streaming due to factors like higher bit rate and less compression
What are we are we just not going to have
Like a definitive quality version of new films anymore, I think so
We'll streaming Will will we see a high quality streaming service that comes in to take the place?
I don't think so either People won't pay for it. And if they do one person will pay for it. They'll rip it and then everyone else will just download it
It's like kind of like with blu-rays
Okay, this ended up being less of a main news topic and more of a short conversation
But anyway, that's the thing that happens which is which is a bummer because yeah, blu-ray versions are like
Definitely better and look way better and especially as display sizes continue to scale
It's beginning going to become more of an issue like I was
We did some sponsored spots for amazon luna earlier this week. I was shooting those with sammy and
You know nothing against amazon luna latency feels pretty good. It seems pretty cool
I got some great games on it But I fired it up on the 115 inch tv that I have in the theater room
And I was like, oh that's a lot of compression And that's just the nature of the beast when it comes to stream content as you blow it up bigger and bigger
Those those color banding blocks or those compression blocks get more and more noticeable
I do think that local ai on our devices will help to smooth some of that stuff, but
But You don't want those weird wheels in f1
What I'd really just rather have because it's garbage in garbage out is not garbage to go in and then I could ai it even better
You know like I'm you wanted or not or not. I've been seriously thinking buying a buying a blu-ray of
Of the grand budapest hotel because I wanted to watch that with emma and I was like well
I want a good quality version of it so like
You heard it here first folks luke considered buying a blu-ray. How'd that go for you thought about it?
Didn't end up doing it. Yeah, okay All you're part of the problem might might still do it. Well, I haven't acquired it any other way
YouTube has broken video title links on publisher embedded videos and the source here is the verge
Um, here's their article youtube quietly made it so that some of its web embeds are worse
Including ours Here's why you can't click on the title to go back to youtube on our videos
And this is an issue that I have to confess I had not considered at all
What? YouTube embeds on some websites like the verge no longer let users click the video title to open it on youtube.com or the youtube app
This is because youtube changed its youtube player for publishers to remove branding
Which apparently includes the title link according to youtube
Publishers who want the link back must use the standard youtube player which gives up ad revenue
So youtube player for publishers allows you to put your own ads on it
I didn't even know that youtube participated in the like
No As just like a white box solution for like video embeds on your site. I like I knew like vimeo does stuff like that
I know there's other like bespoke ones that specialize in like yoga courses and things like that. I had no idea that youtube even did this
Anyway, if you use a default regular youtube embed that then youtube will make more money and publishers will make less
YouTube says that this change is to protect advertisers and partners
Because they don't have visibility into the ads that are served in the youtube player for publishers
But publishers like the verge are frustrated um because
they Can keep wait hold on because their options are to
Keep the links broken so people can't navigate back to youtube or they can switch to the standard player and lose revenue
Or they'll have to use another player that likely won't have a youtube link anyway
And it all just kind of sucks um
Oh, just tell them no Yeah, forget where we've got enough topics
Riley forget it put your put your keyboard down go home
I I haven't listened to the podcast fully yet, but uh Dan on the lab's web team shared it with me
Um, I don't know. Did we talk about this? Did we talk about this?
Uh, no, I don't think we did Yeah, they have a podcast on this that talks about like how they make money and how they've made money over the years and like how
Running a ad funded business on the internet in current year is really hard
And things are going to subscription models and stuff super interesting I'm like a little bit into the podcast haven't listened to the whole thing. I'm planning to finish it off this weekend
um, but like yeah, the verge is being
Public and transparent about things right now, which is very interesting to me very cool
I don't know how many other people but it's very interesting to me um
It's cool because like honestly, I look at a lot of these sites
Including the verge heavily including the verge and I really
Don't understand how they make the money that they make
Knowing like how many people they employ and like how much of a showing they've had it like shows like ces and stuff in the past
Like man, like your stuff is getting this much traffic to pay for all this. That's crazy. Um
so it's it's Cool having them kind of show behind the veil a little bit
um, so our our conversation here is like
What's the deal because I honestly I I kind of
Agree with youtube that if it's not a like if it's not supposed to be like youtube if it's you know
Player for publishers, but okay. Yeah, it has youtube on it This seems to me like your own ads on it like they have like a branding issue here
Because I wouldn't want that to be youtube branded if I was youtube and I have no idea what ads are going to be on it or what
I get it But on the other hand, I totally see where the verge is coming from where
In their mind this product has been degraded
And they were using it and that's just the nature of this everything's a subscription
Everything is as a service World that we live in where whatever the deal was it can just
Change unilaterally and it's not up to you like from my point of view I don't even really see the product as degraded if anything
I would think if I wanted video embeds on my site not having youtube branding all over it would be a plus
But if people like the youtube interface and that's where they want to watch it and engage with other viewers
Then yeah, I can see how it could also be a minus. I think this is a I really I really see this one from
both sides Like I can definitely see why if you're using something you like the way it works
Like it could be something as simple as like the youtube creator studio mobile app
Like it used to have a way that um
From the dashboard here I could just slide in from the side and select which channel analytics I wanted to see now
I have to click this then click this then click it
So they just like added extra clicks and I hate that but I'm sure for someone it's like better this way
Maybe I don't know the mobile app development team no offense, but you guys
Um, you'd be better off if you just hadn't touched it for the last like five years
But that's a separate conversation They've fixed some stuff
But they mostly just like good job have not improved the things that I think are actually important for interacting with your community
but Last topic
I would say that I'd be happy to have calls with you guys and you know talk about ways that you could fix it
But we've done that and you didn't listen to any of it and now it's worse. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry
Last topic. Um, I don't know. It's kind of boring and video brings back g4slan. So they're promoting probably a GPU. I would assume what?
Wait, it features a 50 hour gaming marathon. That's a that's a specific number
And it'll be on an aircraft carrier in its us only Oh, yeah, the last time they did one of these was a long time ago and they did an aircraft carrier land
So that was cool for the 400 regular gamers who are allowed to go. Yeah
Or everyday gamers. Sorry. What's the term? Uh, discussion question is epic whale land collab. Yeah. Yeah, they'll bring the ship. We'll bring the whales
The whales. Yeah All right, what else are we doing today? I think that's it for topics after dark. Are we after dark?
Yeah, oh, this is hilarious trending on x e-lon musk pushed for open ai profit new emails show
So you're not mad that they switched it for profit. You're just mad that they didn't do it for you
Oh, I think he also Did still want it to be open. He just also wanted to make money if I remember correctly. These are new emails
Yeah, oh, no, maybe it's it's trending right now reinforcing or something. We've known this for a long time
I think you all didn't want to make big dollars. What are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, let's do it Oh, that was quick
I was waiting. I was waiting. I wasn't sure if you're gonna branch off into something else. That's fair
Bye sammy What what is sammy? Why are you still here? There's lots of people still here
Oh, yeah, we started WAN Show on time. It's only like almost seven
Which is like pretty late or whatever, but like very early for us. Yeah very early for us to be on after dark. Yeah
Well, we don't gotta get a look home for eight Oh, wow. Yeah, you're gonna be home before eight today. Yeah, that's good. You're not even gonna need those chocolates
That wasn't even a joke. I don't even those like
The younger people you know what those are after eight. Yeah, I don't know. I mean they wouldn't they go to bed
Oh Oh boy
No, I don't think we're gonna stream super checks tonight. Luke's all salty because he's bad at it
No, I'm not salty anymore. Okay. It's it's the it's the smash bows problem. Okay. Yeah, if you smash bows if you
I did screw that If you own smash bows or or potentially bros and you play it a bunch
If you say say you you go to the store with your friends and you buy smash bros
And you go home and you play and it's all fun and then they go home
And don't play and you grind And then they come back and you all play it's not gonna be fun
We played super checks and we streamed it one time
And the one time that we streamed it line is studied the tape
Like a collegiate athlete or something
And then like figured out how I play and jumped up in skill level a bunch and then it like wasn't very competitive
And that's just so lame. So in summary Skill issue it's so lame
My goodness
You were already better Barely though. Yeah, and now I'm way better made it competitive and fun
my goodness I I told you to study the tape too. I told you I told you I was studying the tape
Ridiculous I told I told the von
Tried to get him in trouble
No, I was just cheating by being better than me
And everything that's not true. No, there's lots of things he's better than me yet
The usual curve is that if we fire up a new game depends on the topic. I am better than luke
For like 25 minutes Maybe not maybe less and then he is better than me forever
After that it depends on the type of game. That's usually how it works though depends on the type of game
That's usually how it works. There are some I like I don't I think it would take me
Extreme amounts of time to catch up to you in super commander the supreme commander supreme commander. Yeah, no
It would take you like tens of hours. Yeah, at least yeah
But what are you snickering at dad? But that's a game that I have so many more hours in so if we actually look at the curve from the moment of starting to play
You're probably better than I was at that period Oh, because line has said tens of hours not hundreds of hours. So it was like a slight compliment. I think
Yeah, well, no, that's what I was that was I was what I have like many many many many many hours in that game
Like back when it came out and stuff and it's it's the kind of game where like
There's so many variations in strategy that the only way to be good at it is to have played a ton of matches
One of the skill ceiling is like infinite. So yeah being good at it in tens of hours is fine
Yeah, one of the one of the most wild things to me is because we've played like on the internet with internet people before
One of the things that like hurts my brain is that you're so much beyond like myself and your son who will play you sometimes
That he seems like a god to me and then we'll play against internet people and he'll get stomped and I'm just like
Oh, dude, I'm not even good. Like like I was pretty good in like 2007 or whatever, right?
Then those people some of them still play Yeah, that's how I feel playing factorial. Like I've got nearly a thousand hours and I'm like bad at it
There's some people who are just bonkers Yeah, the the one that hurt me that way forever was joe and I used to play the crap out of rocket league
We were very good at rocket league diamond in rocket league
champion at one point in rocket league But a specific type of rocket. Oh the hockey one. Yeah. Yeah
We go to try to play with the the soccer ball
And nobody was happening
Nothing worked at all. I was so lost. I don't know whatever
Anyways Okay, well, let's get some merch messages in you guys any memories you care to share about the pc you built
In the denver micro center. I go there a lot and some people still remember your visit
Was that the weird like we water cooled it wrong one?
What I think it was we built like a super weird. I was trying to come up. Oh, hey, I'm reminded of this
Uh, we sponsored diy perks. Let's go go watch diy perks after this. Nice. Yeah, he did like a weird surround sound laser thing
I came out today. I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but um Uh
Hell yeah Yeah
Okay, what was I searching for?
My first center I don't know here. Let's see if we can let's see if we can find this. So this is this one was fun
But this one was in California, dude, I could
If I was a conspiracy theorist I would think this video is staged like how perfectly the whole thing turned out it 100% was not
She just happened to be the first person who asked us about that pc and bought it for 20 bucks
Um, I don't think I've seen that video. Oh, yeah, this is the one. Yeah, we just built like the stupidest computer. I forget
I forget why Oh, yeah, because
I think it was because it had to be their demo. So I was like, this is hilarious. I should like build it wrong
So I put like really weird like cooling stuff in it and stuff. That's such a lie
You have to display this forever
Well, they dragged me all the way up to Denver
Look, I made a butt Oh
Oh my goodness, that's great. Oh man
Anyway, um, yes, I remember that I remember the team being a lot of fun. I remember them being super cool cool
No, I'm not talking bad about Denver. I'm just saying it's far away. He doesn't like traveling. Yeah
Okay, I understood immediately What are Linus's mods on beat saber?
Oh, uh, just like better song search and like, uh,
leaderboards and uh Like I don't I don't care about any of the mapping extensions or anything like that. I just I just like to hit nodes. So
I'm super boring and vanilla when it comes to beat saber modding. It already breaks often enough that I'd
Keep it minimal Are you able to share how successful your black friday week was for example, how many screwdrivers you sold?
I don't know sure
Be careful how you do so. Yeah, it's your decision to do so. Yeah
Luke should I not curate these types of messages anymore? No, I mean
his company Is it though? Yes. Yeah
Shut up, Luke
Um
Let's see if I can find the uh Did someone just kill my internet? I just got I just got logged out of my g-suite
Did something just do that? My hands didn't even move. It wasn't me. It's AJ. AJ see you though
What what the heck? I'm so sorry shop if I went down
Oh No, I'm not saying he did do that. I'm just saying he could
Here we go post event summary That dot doc x. I'm not going don't worry
Relax
Relax Uh, okay, so we beat our revenue forecast by 30 percent
Which is enormous, which is huge um a big part of that was uh down to the
The deals we were offering the uh hard work that the team did to get uh, hold on
I'm just going to open this with google docs instead of the preview Um huge shout out to the team. Um
Man, I It's one of those things. It's a double-edged sword. I want to call out individual contributors
But I don't want to miss anybody because then if I do then it's like yeah double suck
That gets really rough to be honest, but I will say that the
Team at cw. So, uh, Sarah already worked especially hard on like the landing pages and newsletters
Um already worked really hard with the production team on a couple of shorts
Also, awesome, like that super long shaft one. Uh, genuinely just performed really well videos. Yep. Yep. Those just good videos
um Huge shout out to the entire creator warehouse team like obviously the design of the products packaging like everything
But also like uh nick and dave
Who worked on a lot of the like nitty gritty of the promotions? Um, but anyway, so yeah, so how'd we do?
um Yeah, we beat our forecast by 30 percent. We hold on key results. Let me just see if I can find a thing here
The Floatplane early access um was hugely impactful. We drove almost uh
1500 new Floatplane members with that that was super cool
but
Key uh key offers and performance and from recipients the email uh eblast performed really well
Uh, we apparently had a 58 percent open rate on our email campaign
Which is like enormous What?
I don't even remember the last time I opened a marketing email from anyone
And an 18 percent click-through rate, which is like if there's any people who
Who work in that industry?
Let people know in the chat How mind-blowing those numbers are that's absurd. Um, one of the things that I've pushed really hard about our newsletters
Is that we don't spam people we like send meaningful
Newsletters so that they're good. We also saw very very little abandonment. Um, or like uh
A deregistration from our newsletter so
Yeah, let's go um
challenges We oh we had some promotions of our products go live with influencers for stuff that we didn't have in stock
That was funny. That's in one of our that's one of our challenges
But that just it was what it was the timing was what it was We wanted to sponsor these creators anyway, so we don't see that as a huge deal even though
We obviously could have sold a bit more stuff if it was in stock Um, I think we moved through about
Oh, I don't want to give this to you guys wrong So i'm gonna say I think we moved through about 20 000 screwdrivers
Kuro satsuna in full-plane chat said normal open rate is about 10 percent and click-through is 1 percent
Yeah, also bell tricks said 18 percent is met and that's just not actually stupid and what are you doing? Sorry
Sorry, what's your click and open? Uh, oh for a black friday cyber monday open was 58 and click was 18. Yeah. Yeah, so that's
Insane more than half of a marketing email sent out was opened. That's nuts to me personally. That's that is completely
obliterating like industry industry standard numbers
um Yeah, mystery screwdriver was a huge success. So we moved through um
Some inventory of screwdriver colorways that were not selling particularly well
What was really surprising to me about the event was the the aftermath
I was expecting a huge hangover on LTT Store sales
Not so much. It didn't know it like just didn't happen. Oh like we as soon as the sale ended
Sales were as good or better than before the event started
Which I and then they've been kind of like creeping kind of like up since then it's just I guess like that's wild
Just people in the shopping mood. I mean one thing that time of year one thing that was funky was that black friday
was um Really late this year. It was like almost as late as it can be. So I think there's just been a lot of pent up like
Shopping that people just weren't doing because they were kind of waiting on black friday to to go
Um, so anyway, there's a little bit of inside baseball you guys Raiden 428 in full-plane jet said 58% is borderline suss congrats
And honestly, that's where I keep getting stuck onto it
I don't really Do you opening marketing? Like how did we get over half of people to opening a mark open a marketing email because it's really good
They're good deals. That's what you want from me. People were buying backpacks that came with a keyboard in it
That's pretty cool. Like what do you want from me? That's pretty cool Did it come in the back? No. Oh man. No one shipped separately. That would have been such a pain to do
I have actually I have actually pitched like maybe
someday If we discontinued the backpack and we only had like a handful left
Doing like a loot box sale where you buy a backpack in a backpack. No, no you buy a backpack
and then the the staff at creator warehouse like inventory just like
Put a bunch of stuff in it as much stuff that fits in it and just ship it
Wow, and just like you get whatever's in it. I don't know other the logistics of doing something like that are completely stupid
but um But okay, here's here's pretty funny. Here's an additional part of my argument like I have a feeling a lot of people
are just like auto filtering Newsletters even like 58 open rate is crazy
But we specifically drove people to sign up for this communication
Like that's part of our communication philosophy is that we are not sending people anything they don't want
So that's why the regular newsletter I've stressed to the team
That it's supposed to be content and any promotional materials need to live alongside content. It's often only yeah, okay
And then when it comes to our heavy promo Newsletters we used to have it set up so that you were only signing up for that event in that event only
We changed our T's and C's so that now it's our like heavy promo newsletter list
But that newsletter list is is still we still treat it as sacred
It's a sacred cow. You don't slaughter it because it's tens of thousands of people
With an open rate like that. It's crazy. Oh, yeah, you don't screw that up
It's crazy I think the reason why I'm reacting the way that I am is because especially I think more than ever
This holiday season when I bought Christmas gifts stores just started
Spamming me like there was one store that the day I bought something I got four to five emails from them
Yeah, and oh people they violate the crap out of can spam incredibly not okay because like we have
Supposedly super strong anti spam laws here in Canada, but apparently there's just no enforcement
Like I was getting text messages emails from companies. I haven't engaged with in ages
Delta force paintball who I left that one star review for sent me a bunch of stuff. It's like you guys. Yeah
Um But yeah, no we
Are not into that And that doesn't mean we'll never do like a card abandonment email here and there or whatever else
But when it comes to like our promotional newsletters, if you get an email from LTT Store, I want you to be like, oh
Something good could be in there. Yeah We work hard we work hard for that someone asked this is an interesting question
I don't know why I haven't dove down this rabbit hole before but
Rysau said how do you measure that an email was opened? So we're not doing the measuring it would be some type of analytics tool
I'm assuming that what they're doing is there's like a picture in there and when the picture is served to you
They they know I don't know but honestly, I don't know. Yeah, it's a whole thing. Yeah, I've never I've never actually
Correct says though. Yeah, okay. Yeah
Yeah, okay It's just a pixel not a picture. Okay
Trackers, let's go. Yeah. All right, Dan
Makes sense. It's just I never thought about Hi lld I started a new job as tech support manager at a small streaming service
I just got tasked with also managing inventory shipping and receiving and I'm having trouble finding balance
Any advice you have two jobs at least two
um dramatically different ones too. Yeah, I think
I think there needs to be an honest conversation about Getting you more resources because you can't really find balance when you have two jobs
I mean based on that. They're a small streaming service. It sounds like they're probably a small company, but um
Yeah, I think you should basically tell them well. Look, here's the situation
I have two jobs. Do I have two times the salary and obviously you can't present it in exactly that way?
But there needs to be sort of a plan. Can we put together a roadmap where either my work
load stabilizes to something resembling one
you know role Or is there going to be some kind of compensation adjustment as I
Do I have any do I have approval to hire resources to help to balance this?
Like what what is our plan to get things to some semblance of normal?
Or will I literally be given double the compensation to work twice as many hours because these are these are the only three
paths that are going to get us to Or the quality of both is just going to suffer and like I think I think mentioning that bit
Being like basically inevitably this is going to happen. Like I'm doing my best. I'm doing my best. I care about my job
I'm working hard, but I am
I am frustrated Yeah, I am frustrated by the fact that I don't have the time to do things to the level of quality that I believe
Got me this promotion in the first place. Yeah, and and I think that'll be a disappointment to both of us
You know frame it as a help me help you. Yeah
Good advice Linus Thanks. Well
There's a chief done this for a while. Yeah, it's almost like I've had conversations with people who are wearing too many hats recently
Nick from the lab. Yeah, that's crazy. How many titles do you have loop?
Hi LTT Do you guys know if the LTT water bottle has any type of synthetic coating or lining on the bottle interior?
The gloss around the mouth of the bottle seems almost unnatural
Not that I'm aware of
Is it just polished? Oh, yeah, that's just polished middle, bro
Yeah, just looks nice. Yeah. Yeah, all good if it's stamped that might be from the tool
Oh Like injection molding any uh surface finish
Uh, next up is for luke I'm a business owner starting a custom software project and hired a full-time recent graduate dev
How do I ensure he's making progress on the projects and not playing starfield all day?
Well, if you shouldn't have hired him if you play starfield at all
Do do check-ins ask to see progress There's a difference between something in prod and something in like a local environment
Get him to show you what's in his local environment what he's touching at the time
That doesn't mean it's going to be actually necessarily close to ready again
I just said there's a difference between what's in the local environment and what's in prod
Do not go down the route of trying to count lines of code or
Things like that, but there's also no reason for someone to have no commits in a week
Um, like there's there's different things that you can kind of look at there are
You could have a developer on your staff that works in the negatives in regards to lines of code
Who is potentially your most valuable person? Lines of code is a bad metric
And you hired a new grad so
expect them to need learning time Ask them be be communicative about what they're doing and if honestly if what they're doing is learning that might be legit
But talk to them about what they're learning like engage with them about what they're doing
Care and pay attention and it should be fine
If you could develop one LTT version of a core computer component CPU motherboard storage, etc
What would you pick and why motherboard?
Yeah, because it's like the most Sort of visible one. It would look cool. I'd make a cool-looking one
I feel like you could also actually potentially have some impact there that is cool. Yeah, like more pc i slots
I don't think we're gonna make a better GPU. How about any pc ie slots?
Oh, please please Hello, Linus. I have been extremely excited about LTT usbc cables
Can you talk about anything that makes them stand out and what went into their development?
Man, we sourced cables from so many different manufacturers
We debated endlessly the validity of our product as uh
As one that needs to exist. I have pushed extremely hard for the creation of our cables
They don't make any sense in the like
current landscape because they're going to be expensive because
um every Every individual conductor has its own shielding like they're a coaxial style cable rather than a twisted pair style cable
Which adds bulk which is not desirable
Yeah, it's gonna be really thick adds weight which is not desirable and it adds stiffness which is not desirable
However, we're able to counter some of the stiffness by using like that really nice hobbyist grade like silicone
outer saluting. Yeah And what we get for going with a coaxial style cable is we get
Really great signal integrity and really great power delivery. It'll still be cheaper than audiophile cables
And it will still be cheaper than audiophile cables and that's kind of that's kind of our whole thing is like we price things
at what they cost to buy a premium product
But not what people obviously are paying for snake oil luxury products
But yeah, it costs more than some like and you might not want that and that's cheap cheap jf g k x y
tech cable on amazon, right? So that's That's what we're making. We are making
really nice Inspec cables with good signal integrity and good power ratings. Um, and that's that's it
That's all there is to it. We're not going to make any kind of claims that aren't true about them
We're just going to tell you exactly what speed and what wattage they run at right on the connector
And that's it. I'm very excited
Hi, wan.dll. Are there any technologies that you thought would fail but were actually successful? Here's mine
I thought dual slot gpus were janky and would be rejected by the market. But boy was I wrong
Um I thought that aio coolers were kind of a gimmick
But the thing that I underestimated was the aesthetic component of people posting showcase builds
And especially I underestimated the importance of them in shipping systems
Yeah shipping and octa n hd 15 in a completely built system is not a good idea. Yeah period
um, and so you have to go all the way back to um
The Asatec lclc the low-cost liquid cooling like it was originally developed as just like a cheapo like
Solution to to get something cooled um
Cheaply with water like it was not a premium product at all. So this is the original oem
Asatec version that pretty much everyone in their dog
Licenses because it's patented. I think asatec and then cool it owned patents on it or something like that
So unless you unless you license from one of them or you found a work around that's pretty much what you're stuck with
And what's funny about it to me is that when the asatec lclc look at this
When the lclc launched um, it was not particularly well received because it really like didn't perform that good
So here's the lclc compared to just like a
Basic like cooler. Um, like what's a silverstone nto6? It's not silverstone. It's not even like
Uh, this is not a particularly well regarded cooler from a not particularly well regarded cooler brand
Okay, this is the pro But whatever it's just like a basic not even tower cool like downdraft style cooler
Uh, so the lclc is nothing
special um Like really at all
And then it wasn't until Corsair. Well, are they cooling a GPU?
Uh, I don't know. I think they're cooling a GPU. So it doesn't matter that that particular review
They might have been but the point is that it didn't perform particularly well
And it wasn't until the Corsair h50 came out that all of a sudden people got enthusiastic about it
And I couldn't I still to this day Have not really been able to figure out why people went from being so
tepid about it To being impressed by it when all that was changed
was that One of them was branded asatec lclc and one of them was branded Corsair and you can actually see
Like the comparison is only against the stock cooler and even then
Um, like it's obvious that if you just had like a decent cooler in here. This would not look very impressive
um, I really think it was just Nobody heard about it until it was Corsair branded
And then when it was Corsair branded, they're like, I can have water cooling and they didn't look at the graphs and they just bought it
Yeah, I I mean, I guess But that that was basically how aio coolers started was as a complete nothing burger that no one kind of cared about
Other than that you could get your GPU temps down just kind of nice and then it turned into
Their high performance coolers and they have never at any point really outperformed
High-end air coolers Meaningfully for most people there there are cases where like a triple aio is going to outperform
All but the giganticest bulkiest of of air coolers, but uh, not much
For me it was this isn't really It is a technology, but it's in a specific use case. I guess
The massive price jump that came with like addressable RGB fans
I thought the community was going to be like I don't care Oh
But they're Because of the price I guess is they cared they really did they cared hard
120 bucks for three fans like when I saw that I was like
And then everybody bought it Okay
Guess I am wrong Sounds good
Linus, how do you manage your kids game time at home? I find that the 30 minute rule doesn't work, but I still want them to have fun
Um, they earn game time for extracurricular activities
So if they do I think it's an hour of extracurriculars they get 45 minutes of game time or something like that
And then if they are buttheads or whatever then they lose game time. They're like grounded from from game time
So pretty much like that Dear Linus Dan and miss your oh, yeah, go for it. Do you know if you
Blanket ground them from game time for a certain period of time. Do you notice a reduction in the activities that earn them game time?
Um, no, not really. That's cool. Yeah, they're they're pretty good kids. Actually my kids are mostly not buttheads
Cool Sorry, keep going. No, uh, dear Linus Dan and miss you. If you're near
External drives will list a usb speed and a drive speed
For example, we could have 10 gigabits per second and 3500 megabytes per second
How do we know which one is actually the drive speed?
Uh The one that is 5 gigabit per second or 10 gigabit per second is the usb speed and the other one is the drive speed
That's a really good question never even like occurred to me that if you have no context for these numbers
You'd have no way of knowing which is which um
I never really thought about it before but yeah, it's also I can see how
Okay, those particular numbers are obviously conflicting because
3500 megabytes a second would be like three and a half
Of like four gigabit or 40 gigabit or something like that Like it's not like those numbers are not would not be on the same package
But that's a pc i gen 4 NVMe drive right something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah
Um, what can a newbie data engineer do to better help the team this past year?
My name has been sent to different teams on the project to be of help only to be ignored or rejected for inexperience
um Jump in
Look through the codebase try to see if there's things you can help with attend the meetings
um Be ready to accept that if you like kind of suck and aren't ready to contribute that you need to find more experience
Ask people what you should do to pursue that experience If they're not giving you things listen in the meetings to the things that people don't want to do
And then try to grab those That's such key career advice
Like be the indispensable person who does the stuff that no one else wants to do and but but don't be stuck there forever
Yeah, it's just uh, you you're you're working on becoming liked on a team
Like people want you to be on the team and then you know, you can try to ditch the the garbage jobs eventually
um a common one is If you have if your team has some amount of code coverage
Basically, no one likes doing code coverage. So if you volunteer to do some of the code coverage and then you don't do a horrible job of it
Most people in my experience would like that if if they do have a requirement of doing code coverage
Not everyone does for for for tests to be clear
More Yeah, the first comment I see in response that is code coverage sucks
Exactly. So Volunteer to do that do their documentation
Yeah, like this is yeah, if you make one of their lives like way better due to you being on the team
They're probably gonna want you there more And then you know, eventually
You work up to being a peer instead of just doing their dirty work. It's also a cheat code to understand what they're doing
Yeah, yeah Hello, hello DLL from scotland making a tricky question to answer
But when doing collaboration videos like the one with electro boom, how do you typically split the video revenue?
Love the show. Oh, that's a good question. Um
So I read this in advance. So I already have this ready There we've done a few collabs with electro boom. Mehdi is amazing
The first one we did was can static kill your pc and in this case
We uploaded our video, which was edited by our editors and shot by our camera operators
and scripted by our writers and uh, we kept 100 of the revenue from that
And Mehdi normal uploaded this video, which was his separate video kind of featuring
Um me as a as a talent in the video as well
But with his own writing his own editing and he kept 100 of the revenue from that
So it is a tricky thing because it's kind of unspoken like nobody really wants to be the one that's like, hey
Who gets the money when you work together on a collab? I think by and large the youtube creator community is make it beneficial for both
Is pretty Is pretty uh
Common Common good
Minded, you know pretty magnanimous about the way that they approach collabing. Collabbing is an inherently
win-win thing or at least it's supposed to be there
Been cases that have not been yeah, I'm sure yeah, I'm what I was gonna say was I'm sure there's exceptions to the rule
But honestly in all the experience I've had seeing this both externally and internally
Yeah, no, I don't think anyone's even asked ever But I mean one of the things that I go out of my way to ask is like, hey, uh, you know, what do you need out of this?
Um, yeah, yeah, absolutely Do you need me to be available to help you with a video like Ludwig for example?
He just like came up here. He wanted absolutely nothing in return. I'm like, okay, and you know
But but but when he called me up for to do bro versus bro. I'm like, yeah, bro. I'm there
You know, so no to one. So yeah, so so there's kind of this there's kind of an unspoken
Hey Did this transaction make sense for everybody? Okay. It's tight and neat little bow
Nobody really owes anybody else a solid But there's also an unspoken. Hey, that really benefited one of us more than the other
Does it does either of us kind of owe the other a solid? um
So the the wireless e sd straps
Many just was like thrilled with the first club and loved it and he was like, yeah, I want to come do another one
And so I kind of owed him a solid so when we were trying to do an upgrade for somebody
And we were thinking of a creator that we'd love to do an upgrade for 10 months ago
We were like, oh, why don't we do a tech makeover for meddy pretty local too, which helps
Yeah, so that was the way those ones worked. We kept 100 of the money from these
But meddy got a sick tech upgrade and very helpfully came and uh, and some speed holes in his walls
Some of his fun gadgets for us to play with Um, and that's I think that's all the videos that we've collabed on
Yeah, so meddy's super cool. Yeah, and is I think a perfect example of how without
Asking for anything he gives freely of his time and expertise and
I would like to think we try to take a similar approach and everyone
Was happy as far as I know. I mean we're still on speaking terms. So yeah met him and his family down at open sauce. Super cool
Yeah So so cool awesome people. Yeah. Yeah
Just like actual good people that you should feel good about supporting. Yep
Hey Linus, I like that you have a CPU tower in one room and runs of cable to three other rooms
What is the current best cabling to run for this purpose? Previously if run HDMI and usb 2.0 or 3.0 for this
um I've been okay happy with my DisplayPort
But I sometimes wish that I had run HDMI just because I find it can be a little less flaky about
Picking up a signal when the system's already running HDMI. That is
Other than that man usb is tough
As long as you only need to usb 2 over Ethernet is fine
But if you want to go really long distances over optical you have to use these like expensive
Media conversion kits and stuff and it gets kind of it gets it gets kind of tricky
um How long did they say they were going again
To three other rooms. No, that's what you do to three other rooms
Previously everyone HDMI. So what are your your run lengths?
Uh minor in the neighborhood of around 50 to 60 feet. I think oh, no, I'm sorry. I misinterpreted this. I
Like you Have my CPU tower in one room and runs of cable to three other rooms. Got it. All right. Yeah, best cabling is
Ah man, see the cost is tough for usb
Because you either have to do individual fiber. I would say I would say I mean infinite cables has a lot of really good products for this
Um, I would I would definitely endorse their products in general and then I would probably go fiber optic usb to a dock
Um, and then I would probably go I probably go HDMI right now
But we're on the verge of gpus that support newer DisplayPort standards like the new u hbr standards
I don't know how many u hbr cables exist yet though. So that's something you'd probably have to look into for yourself
But I've been very happy with uh infinite cables
Jake would Jake would be proud. I promoted infinite cables Shout out infinite cable. Yeah
Do you think anyone will create SSD technology that will be as good as 3d x point? No
I mean someday maybe but it looks like we're on man flash for the time being
I miss optane. Actually, I don't miss optane. I have optane in my uh in my machine at home
I treated myself to an optane. I was like, I'm gonna have an optane
And now I do
I don't even have a current gen uh of like 40 series GPU. I went AMD
Because you know that was out of spite. I had to go AMD. Yeah, it was you didn't go optane out of spite. No, I didn't
I love optane They're so expensive. They're a lot cheaper now
Oh man, hey DLL what are your opinions on all the different types of screen protectors plastic glass and liquid
My family keeps asking me about liquid screen protectors, and I don't know what to tell them
Well, tell them glass. Hold on. We we did a thing
It actually worked surprisingly well. It did
But still I have no idea if this brand or product even like exists anymore. Probably not. Um, here it is
12 years ago. Let's go. What a thumbnail. I know right
Real-world test dragging phones behind my motorbike
Linus tech tips in the title. I know right
It's freaking wild
So here you go liquid armor invisible, whatever. Here's some dummy phones and uh, this is me filming. Yep
Notice how I don't zoom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He just walks. Look at him walk. That's a luke foot
Put that on your weird foot fetish website. Yeah, I had those stupid white shoes for so long
And then he had to run because I was like, you know on a motor vehicle
um Yeah, and then we inspected them and we found that they were like
They were just dummy phones. Oh, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I just
The key is filming quality. Is this the best it can do? Oh, no, here we go
Okay Look at those shoes. Oh, there's a motorcycle boots. What do you want from me?
But yeah, we found that like you could actually the the film was still on there focus on the ground luke. Yeah
The liquid was still on there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Luke doesn't that that's a that's a I don't think I ever touched the focus. No, it just was what it was
Yeah, it was what it was. It was raw. It's raw. This is a different time. Okay. It was a different time
The camera that I learned on Uh
Was it that you couldn't change the zoom? No, you couldn't change the focus, right? Yeah Yeah, I don't think it had manual focus. Yeah. Yeah, it was and there's a scratch on the lens anyway incredible
You've come so far. No No, I mean the company is
I never got better at filming you work in itina
This is what we were using at that point. Yeah stereo microphone. Let's go
Yeah, I think ours was white or something though, wasn't it? Nope. Oh, not even a little. What was that camera?
sx1 is One oh the the good octane deals on new eggs seem to have dried up
I was just checking there was a while there where you could get like some pretty sick
Optane deals on just like old octane drives
But uh, it does not appear to be a thing right now I think do you know how many do you know how many of those cameras you could buy with the three that we're doing on
Wancho right now a lot 114
Well, let's like use them for a change then there you go. Yeah, we should do we should do like matrix bullet time
Just buy like an incredible man of those cameras and just put them
I bet I want to get ptsz in here so that we can have like one camera and then it can move and zoom between you guys
ptsz point tilt zoom Or pan tilt zoom
Hey, there's deals on ebay though 350 bucks for a one and a half terabyte data center drive
Let's go. Oh, I just want to one for my swap drive
Oh, let me just get these little guys these little guys are cheap
They're cheap
But yeah, I treated I treated myself a little while ago to an octane. It's nice. Yeah
I deserve it. Yeah Okay, what are we thinking about the si2 that was silver before that?
Uh, we never had one of those we had some camera that was white
We had some uh, like sony handicap silver thing for maybe that's what i'm thinking. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah
Hey, wan.dill Question for all three of you. What has been your favorite tech or related product that has had a big influence in your daily lives this year?
daily Oh, my snapdragon laptop. It's not perfect. I had has problems occasionally, but um, the battery life is a game changer for me
There i'm gonna go with that Daily life has to be tech not software tech favorite tech or related product. I would say software is related to tech
Hmm Luke really likes the new lid for our water bottles
Mm-hmm. No, he doesn't
Wine to boat them. I like a lot of other other things. The reviews are really good though. People like them. That's good
They're easy to clean that is good. They're sanitary. That is good. Luke's just not a guy who cares about sanitation
No, I just already cleaned my water. No, I get it. I get it. You're just a dirty boy
A dirty chicken boy I need to start I need to start eating something else. I can't I can't uh, I gotta escape this whole chicken thing
Um, you could move to poultry. You'll never
Christmas bird
I don't think there's any particular piece of tech that had like an outstanding impact on my life this year
To be honest. All right, then the laptop I have for work is super normal
Nothing else really changed
My computer got a lot cooler. Yeah, he's a Bulbasaur computer. Does it like work now?
Yeah, we're at the whole time. Well, no, you had issues with it at first. Oh, yeah, whatever. I fix those
Okay, so it works now. Yeah. Yeah, and it's still cool. Like all the stuff still in it and everything generally
You know, some of the moss decided to leave
And I was real moss so like yeah No, there's still real moss in there. Yeah, that is still green. Oh, yeah moss is crazy. Yeah
Um And there's some there's some stickers that I had to trim and every once in a while one of the stickers will decide to
Join the fans and then I have to trim it as well. Yep. That makes sense. I mean, we did sticker bomb your fans
So yeah, I'm probably gonna have to do that again this weekend because it is ticking again
And it's doing the type of ticking that I know it's not actually bad. It's just a sticker in the fan
So I just got to go in there and sweep and then it's fine. How about the nine pro?
Uh, don't I have an eight pro?
That shows you how much uh, he thinks about it and I how life changing it was don't like it that much. Yeah, all right, cool
As someone who is the techie of the family, how do you recommend to handle overwhelming requests to fix various items and electronics?
Say no politely Sometimes also I need the opposite
My parents like won't tell me when there's a problem with their computers
And I'm like you've been dealing with this for so long and you say anything like
That's actually funny or when they'll be up or worse when they'll buy something without asking if it's any good
And they'll just buy absolute. Oh, I didn't want to bother you. Yeah. No bothering me now. This bothered me so much more
Another one is like you want to like upgrade someone's computer, but they won't
Like sort their files so you can get them a new drive It's like come on
Help me help you please Oh, man
I have I'm supposed to Emma's supposed to be on geodude now
Computer name. Yeah, it's old amethyst computer. Oh, she won't just like move her files
To be fair in her defense commutes for two hours a day and is studying and is working full time
She has no time like literally at all, but
You have a cool computer. Yeah
I alreadys man
Oh man, howdy dll I recently bought my first dbrand skin this week due to the quality of your products
Consistently promoting their brand. How did your relationship with dbrand get started?
um I wanted a custom skin for an Xperia z2 or something like that
dbrand's head robot actually tells the story better than me because he remembers it a little better than I do
But basically apparently They they like moved heaven and earth to get one of those phones for me because
um Let me see if I can find the original email chain
dbrand Because like they were basically like just kind of a
Like a like a like a starting out brand
um Oh, this is hilarious. I had I just found a I just found a vacation responder to dbrand can't reply to your email having a baby
Regarding dbrand custom Linus tech tips Xperia z2 giveaway
So why did I why why did they why did they reach out?
Here's a to-do list I sent to myself Here's a to-do list
from me to What nick?
That's just like stuff to do switch to z2
Employee evaluation form man. This is wild
This is crazy Patriot project. What even is that?
review luke sample guide I don't know
Roomba script did I ever review a Channel Super Fun? What is the last word there gilly?
Yeah I felt gilly wrong
This is great Um, sorry. Sorry old emails are hilarious. I love doing that every once in a while
Uh, okay Okay, here's the outreach
Oh, this is so funny Dude, you've never you've never heard dbrand this polite
Hey guys, hope this message finds you well. This is old
We're reaching out to see if you'd be interested in doing a giveaway of a custom Linus tech tips branded xperia z2
You can check out the different material types on our new website here
We've found that the xperia z2 is a prime candidate for our skins
The glass surfaces are prone to scratching But they're also ideal canvases for textured skins. They apply easily and can be infinitely removed and reused
Oh really? That must have been an old feature If you're game, just let us know your delivery address and we'll get working on the custom skinned device
Talk to you soon signed a robot
Uh, I said that sounds appealing. Do you mind if I work the giveaway and dbrand messaging into a review of the xperia z2?
It'd be similar to how I did this one and I linked our htc. You're also way too formal. This is so old. Is this 2013?
Uh, 2014 High Linus that would definitely work for us with the device be skinned throughout the entire review video
We'd obviously only ask that it is if we only ask that it is if you genuinely like the way the skin feels and the purpose
It achieves
2d brand from Linus the device would be skinned throughout
Linus Perfect. Can you send over a vector file with your logo so we can get started?
Also, do you have any preference in materials and oh, this is this is great
You you were starting to lose some attention span near the end there. Uh, yeah
Okay, send you those big single letter k energy. I hand it off to ed. Um
Um Yeah Wow, this is uh, yeah, this is crazy. So, uh, yeah parent. I've he's I've heard I've heard the story told
such that they like Moved heaven and earth to make this happen because they were
Believed very strongly and like influencer marketing very very early on like that's way ahead of the curve did really well
they were way ahead um and
Like I guess they reached out before they even like had one of these xperia z2 phones
I don't know why they reached out about the phone. Maybe I mentioned it on twitter or something. I don't remember
But yeah, no, it started out very cordial now. It's devolved into what it is now. So um
So them sending you phones with skins on them to do like reviews on is is been there from the entire start. Yeah
Yeah, since 2014 And they've been really good at like their um at like their product imagery and stuff like even way back then
There's an xperia z2 with you know, they're cool
Kind of leather-looking one and they used to have like a brushed metal one because that was cool back then but it didn't now
All right, what else we got a few more here. Hey dlo long-time listener first time live
What is your favorite or most interesting computer build that you've done or been involved with?
Including any you've had to disassemble to put back together
Man, I don't know we kind of did a video talking about a lot of these recently. Yeah, maybe check that out
Yeah, I think that's probably the best way to answer this question is to just link you to a video. Yeah
Our best builds or something
Yeah, I think I can find it Reacting to our best pc builds ever this one right here. Yeah, it's good to do
The first line is hair it's a good time
I lld Trying to get a deal on an rtx 4090 and try to ebay
There's many new cards for under 800 dollars from china. I know it's likely to be a scam
But how would the scam work since ebay has buyer protection? That's a really good question and one I've actually been trying to figure out for a long time because I've run into the same thing
With like entry-level cards as well. We've covered those scam GPU's a number of times
And I get it when you're buying from somewhere that doesn't have buyer protection
Um, and the way that those like cheap scam cards work is they are functional GPU's
They're just like that's what I was gonna say do are they just hoping that you don't know?
um But with something like an rtx 4090 because so the idea is that those those scam ones they like work well enough to work for a bit
and then You know give them time to get your money and like run away and disappear
Whereas with something like uh like an rtx 4090
I don't really yeah, I don't really understand
um How that would work. Yeah, see here's one
Here So parent a supposedly new
4090 I don't know. Maybe I should just maybe I should buy one. Why don't we find out how the scam works?
There's a video. Yeah All right, sure. I'll buy this scam 4090 right now. I'm gonna send this to procurement and uh,
Do you want my credit card? Which we're not mean so that means he'll buy it on monday
Please buy this Okay, and then yeah, let's let's see what happens
All right People are saying no core no vram, but like buyer protection. So like should I get
Should should I get my money? I probably right? Oh, hey, uh pia vpn
It was down there. Oh It had our vanity you know the banner was yeah the banner was there. Oh, you just wanted to like say it
Yeah, I mean there are vpn sponsored. What do you want? Okay? Thank you daniel
Yeah, yeah, nice. They paid for this show too when after dark. There it is. Oh, nice
Pia are they bros like dbrand? No, they're bros in a completely different way. Yeah. Yeah, they really are though. Yeah, they are just like
I don't know. Who are you? Do whatever you want. Here's some money. I guess. Yeah, okay. It's
Like dbrand's very high touch Uh
Whereas pia is just like there you have a portal login. Why are you talking to me promote it?
Like however you guys think is good like I mean we're paying you we're probably not gonna watch it. So
Take notes every company It's actually like it's kind of wild. Yeah, it's pretty cool
Well, the new wan hoodie have the thumb section. My wife stole my old hoodie
No, I hope not. Yeah, okay. Oh, it's gone this time. Sorry. It was very polarizing and we've decided to not have it this time
Yeah, interesting. Yeah
Evening gents ordered the precision screwdriver and the ai told me that the bits from my LTT screwdriver would work
Not the case. Can you guys fix that because I trusted that lol
Oh, you trusted what the ai apparently our ai on the store
What or email must be email because we have email ai responses
Uh, yeah, they are a different shank size. Um, sorry about that
Hey, I'm I'm assuming that we'll take care of that
Uh, yeah contact support. Yeah, tell them you want a human that is an option in the emails. Yeah
Hey LTT random business question I recently took a position supervising 17 people and it's tough to do efficiently
How many direct reports are you generally comfortable with managers having?
6 to 8 luke
Yeah, is that per company or
Hey, uh Yeah, in that regard i'm doing okay. Yeah, but you have sub managers. So technically you only have like one or two. No
No, that's not correct at some company. Let's just carry on
That's not even true in one department. He does well. I still think you should write a book on management
Uh, my best friend owns a recycling company and has offered me free parts to make my hex os server
What do I even want to consider when I get servers at cost per pound? I would say energy efficiency
So rather than nexus because obviously this is older stuff, right?
So you're not going to be looking at like a, you know, 12 core processor or whatever
So if you're if you're gonna have something that's basically just going to be a storage server
Then I would say get something with fewer cores that uses less energy
Um, get the newest thing you can Um, I would look for something with PCIe slots so that you can put hb as in so you can add more drives in the future
Um, what else would you consider? I mean if reliability is is really important to you
Maybe find an actual server that has a redundant power supply just could be loud
In fact, jay, can I film the video this week? Oh, man, we built the coolest server
We took one of our old 45 drive storeinators and we converted the front to NVMe
Left 30 hard drives in the back
And then upgraded the back so that we could fill it with uh, like PCIe to the front bay things and then hbas
And then we put a GPU above it just for compute That you can't even like access the rear i o of and like sure we put knocked with fans in and we put a custom front panel
Oh, dude, it's so cool. Anyway, the point is uh, what was I talking about?
Recycle computer stuff power efficiency. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One of the things that we did was I don't have a redundant power supply anymore
We just put in a high quality single power supply because the redundant power supply was so flipping loud
That's probably okay. I would I would stress test the things that you're getting out of the recycling area
Smart smart Burn in yeah
Couple more. Oh, oh, oh, but hold on uh
A robot from dbrand. I'm gonna say I feel like this from oh, no watching the show
Uh, can be infinitely removed and reused for what it's worth. This statement genuinely did apply
Specifically to the xperia z2 due to the glass back surface
Of course low surface energy bond between the adhesive and the non-porous glass surface. Okay. Thank you very much for the clarification
didn't care
You keep doing stickers you absolute mad robots proud of what they do, you know
Too long didn't read I'm sorry to hear that or good for you
whatever
My god. Hey Dillon any more tall versions of the apparel coming soon for luke Dan and I
Sorry, what are there more tall versions of the apparel
I in the last much meeting I advocated for something that's upcoming that is not getting a tall version
But I tried look it sure sure you did but the minimum order quantities are hard and it's they have to grade an entire
Another set of sizes. How many of the how much total sales went through the tall blanks? I don't know no
Okay
We we got our foot in the door Dan we got our foot in the door. Yep the new blanks I heard
Not immediately maybe but eventually maybe all those are coming
They're gonna be talls which might mean that we might have more colors than just the black t-shirt
Yeah, my understanding was that if the talls baby steps, okay, then they would explore more. We're gonna get baby steps
It's okay. I saw someone ask about the the like wanshed her sweater in tall size and I was like no
Oh, that's actually the one. Yeah, that's the one I was talking about. They said no, I just not that would be brutal
That's a pretty complicated garland, isn't it rough? Yeah
Like I appreciate that that we're we're getting there and we're actually taking the baby steps now
I understand it's weird. I understand it's a little bit niche. It's nice to have some stuff that does actually like fit me though
I know we're working on so it is it is cool. I do appreciate it
I there's also the the cargo pants. We're getting
In 32 length if I remember correctly. Yeah, that's exciting to you. What's the waist?
A little different waist. Yeah. Oh, okay. So we're doing a whole nother sizing grade of the cargo pants. Okay, which by the way
Oh Cool. I don't know what you're talking about. That actually looks really sharp
I don't know what you're talking about. Wow. I I really like that color. I don't know what you're talking about
Wow That looks genuinely very good. It's like a purpley blue. This is a very early sample and no no promises
It looks great though. I get all kinds of stuff that just like never sees the light of day. So like, um, yeah
I watched uh, the the flow plane exclusive with tachyanna talking about like the socks and stuff
She was going over How you could send her different pictures and stuff. I was like, yeah, this all this all just sounds like
This is all completely believable
I've sent her some horrible pictures. Oh, she yeah, she she said as much. Did she okay? I didn't watch it
It was it was honestly a really good video. Yeah, I have sent her some awful awful pictures that nobody should ever have to see
Look, I I was like, I'm all about consent. Yo, so like I was like, hey
I did not send you pictures of what this did to my feet
Um, because nobody needs to see that and she's like, yo, I for product development purposes
I actually do need these pictures. Oh, no All right, brother. I don't know. I feel like she said not that in the video. What? No, I well, okay. Hold on
I take exception. I take exception to this. I take exception to this. I watched it
But I thought she was like, you know, I don't need to see hold on. I don't need to see your blisters
Whoa, what's going on with miss devich here? Hold on a second flagging for super soft flagging for hold on
Careful, what's your hold on a second? I don't know what you're saying socks
Don't hold on. Don't think out loud. I I would not send people a horrible picture unless
There was a reason here we go uh
Hold on here. I found the thread
One session two hours and I have a picture
of Like what happened to the socks? They are immediately like scuffed
This was this was a sample that I rejected. You can see how they fuzzed
Yeah, after two hours of playing badminton I have uglier pictures on my phone of the red spots and blisters caused by the slipperiness of the insides
They slip like dress socks. They need to be less slidey
Can show you if you really want to see but in a nutshell it hurts lol
She says this is tatiana. Thank you for letting me know although kind of disappointing from the vendor that the issue
Was not really improved. I'm going to schedule a call with the vendor to better communicate her requirements
And that this cannot persist for her to continue sampling with them very professional emails
She was I think pretty new uh at that point
High Linus after relaying the above info to the vendor They have some follow-up questions to better tackle this issue one your shoe size and your routine movements during your two hour session
Two they want photos of the whole sock or just feel free to bring them tomorrow during merge meeting
And I can take the photos to send out three also I want to know the position of the blisters and red spots on your foot to make adjustments to the design
Thank you for your help with this I said size eight attached footage of this Thursday session
I put in my backpack photos of feet attached not for faint of heart. I do not have nice feet lol
She says thank you for the warning lol and the video I'll grab the socks from you tomorrow and send all of these points out to the vendor. She asked for it
She asked for the position
What I'm gonna put coordinates. I'm gonna put latitude and longitude on my feet 30 degrees south
I
Think sending the picture at that point is reasonable, but I am just saying she didn't technically ask for a picture
I'll let you guys be the judge. It's hard. Yeah, you can't do everything. Anyway, Tatiana is great
She's doing a great job and we do have a strong candidate
We do have a strong candidate for maybe an LTT sock at some point. Yeah, thank you. Yeah
Last one I've got for you tonight. Hey there DLL getting the precision driver in bitset
I'm really looking forward to using them at work. What product that you created has the has impacted
Your work the most
What what product that you created has impacted your work that we created
Screwdriver
Yeah, like I use it like every day Floatplane. Yeah, is that fair? Is that a product? I don't know
I mean it is kind of oh, I mean, I love my I love my northern lights desk pad
I've just like never thought about desk pads again after having the northern lights. Yeah me too
Like the the thickness is perfect the woven edges. It's like looks good
Wait, did we actually do a newsletter for the first time in a while? How did we miss this?
February and then november um
Oh, this is cool
Uh, yeah, I'm gonna say screwdriver. Yeah
Screwdriver
Dude screwdrivers been crazy screwdriver has like changed our company
Like, uh, I think we're I think nick was saying we are like well over a quarter million screwdrivers sold now
Which is like what that's pretty nuts. Yeah, it's like genuinely pretty nuts
Like we're like a screwdriver company with like a media production team attached to it like it's crazy
We aren't the media company is still the uh, the bigger one, but it's big doll
It's wild It's wild It's also hilarious to see people still talking about how it's a ten dollar, you know, ellie express
You know rebadge or whatever like um on diy perks's video
He's promoting the screwdriver as part of the sponsorship and like some of the replies are just like
I don't know how anyone could be gullible enough to buy that. It's like
I don't know how you could be gullible enough to read everything you read on the internet
Um, because that's your you someone lied to you
And you just have been uninformed for two years. Yeah, enjoy that. Yeah
um Yeah, are there like
So I'm trying to think like go watch reviews and then I'll see like is there any
Actually negative reviews. I don't think so. I don't think so. It's good product. What do you want?
But some people are just like mad. They're just like mad about that. They don't like that. Yeah, they just really want it to be bad. Yeah
Okay Manifesting does not actually work and again, it might be expensive. Oh, yeah, sure. Yep. It is expensive for a screwdriver
Yep. Yep Cool
See you again next week same bad times in bad channel. Bye
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